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2 [00:02:27] <H-var> could it be that I am seeing
trixie-updates as an option because of updating to kernel 5.11?
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10 [00:11:06] <oxek> H-var: are you on debian stable (buster)?
11 [00:13:18] <H-var> oxek: No
12 [00:13:29] <oxek> then you're in the wrong channel
13 [00:13:33] <oxek> !debian-next
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16 [00:16:52] <monkwitdafunk> !dpkg live
17 [00:16:53] <dpkg> The Debian Live project provides pre-built
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21 [00:20:29] <H-var> thank you, axek
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70 [01:51:53] <warsoul> is wifi working on bullseye?
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72 [01:55:22] <abrotman> yes?
73 [01:55:25] <oxek> warsoul: should be.
74 [01:55:44] <warsoul> if i upgrade from buster to bullseye
should keep working normally?
75 [01:56:23] <oxek> warsoul: you'll read about any
important changes in the release notes once bullseye is released as
stable
76 [01:56:43] <warsoul> nop
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93 [02:18:41] <sn00p> hello, i'm trying to burn a bunch of
mp4 files to a blank dvd, i've tried with k3b and xfburn and
every time I press burn it says I dont have enough space on the dvd,
it is blank never been used any idea on what would be wrong?
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95 [02:20:09] <mutante> sn00p: well, did you check the total
size of the mp4 files?
96 [02:20:15] <sn00p> 9 gig
97 [02:20:57] <mutante> that would only work if it's
double-layer
98 [02:21:07] <mutante> there are 4.7 GB on a regular DVD
99 [02:21:13] <sn00p> yea
100 [02:21:23] <sn00p> I cant burn them?
101 [02:21:42] <mutante> what does it say on the packaging of the
blank DVD?
102 [02:21:48] <sn00p> 4.7gig
103 [02:21:54] <sn00p> DVD-R
104 [02:22:09] <mutante> well, yea, you can't burn it
105 [02:22:17] <sn00p> why not
106 [02:22:21] <mutante> unless you split it into 2 DVDs
107 [02:22:23] <sn00p> its just dat
108 [02:22:25] <mutante> because 9 is larger than 4.7
109 [02:22:26] <sn00p> data
110 [02:22:34] <sn00p> oh
111 [02:22:35] <sn00p> hahaha
112 [02:22:44] <sn00p> i'm stupid
113 [02:22:45] <sn00p> lol
114 [02:22:47] <sn00p> never mind
115 [02:22:50] <mutante> np :)
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117 [02:23:15] <phogg> even a DL DVD won't store 9G, it tops
out at 8.something as I recall
118 [02:23:33] <oxek> "9 is larger than 4.7"
119 [02:23:46] <oxek> why do we live in a world where we have to
say that
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121 [02:24:05] <phogg> oxek: because we live in the best possible
timeline. The entertainment is free.
122 [02:24:32] <oxek> yeah I guess
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155 [02:50:30] <warsoul> bullseye upgrade worked perfect :)
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161 [02:56:15] <ryouma> version 4.13 is larger than version 4.9.
i freely admit to having been confused by that.
162 [02:57:44] <monkwitdafunk> hello. i am reading the debian
reference manual
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166 [02:58:42] <monkwitdafunk> what is the purpose of
blacklisting a module so the udev system does not invoke
auto-loading a module?
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169 [02:59:57] <monkwitdafunk> reduce functionality of hardware
correct?
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172 [03:01:31] <ectospasm> if you don't want to use the
hardware for that driver anymore.
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174 [03:02:24] <ectospasm> I have an old 802.11n PCIe card in my
router, and somehow it still got an IP address. I ended up
blacklisting the kernel module so that would go away since I no
longer use it.
175 [03:03:01] <ectospasm> I couldn't find its IP address
anywhere in the configuration, but still it got one on a subnet I
don't use anymore.
176 [03:04:28] <phogg> monkwitdafunk: sometimes a module can
think it should handle a piece of hardware when it in fact should
not, and a module that will load later should (if it gets the
chance).
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178 [03:05:34] <phogg> The classic example is having both nouveau
and nvidia modules installed. To be sure you get the one you want to
load you can blacklist the one you don't.
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181 [03:07:19] <monkwitdafunk> very nice. thank you. one time i
asked for somebody to do a hacking demonstration and they told me i
shouldve blacklisted a module
182 [03:08:22] <monkwitdafunk> does anyone use any other command
line shell rather than bash?... like zsh?
183 [03:10:24] <oxek> ryouma: why?
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185 [03:11:15] <ryouma> wasn't used to the idea that the
decimal point was not a decimal point
186 [03:11:48] <oxek> ryouma: bear with me, what's the word
in english for '9'?
187 [03:12:05] <oxek> and what's the word in english for
'13'?
188 [03:12:17] <oxek> and which one of those words indicates a
higher number?
189 [03:12:35] <ryouma> you are trying to teach me version
numbering?
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191 [03:13:01] <oxek> maybe, I don't even know what I'm
doing anymore, weird day
192 [03:13:01] <ryouma> "having been" is not present
tense
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194 [03:13:19] <oxek> someone asked earlier whether 9 is larger
than 4.7
195 [03:13:28] <monkwitdafunk> okay. forget about choosing which
linux shell
196 [03:13:50] <oxek> monkwitdafunk: I use bash for scripts, and
zsh for interactive use
197 [03:13:52] <ryouma> you can choose later
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199 [03:14:31] <monkwitdafunk> okay. ill be back after i read
some more. i would like to find something about wayland and xorg
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201 [03:18:24] <monkwitdafunk> i have to confess that there is so
much to learn using "the universal operating system" due
to the high quality documentation. thank you and i wish i can have
oppertunity to reunite with my old hardware with 3 years dust
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229 [04:11:19] <lenswipe> Hey folks
230 [04:11:29] <lenswipe> currently trying to cross-compile for
ARMv7 on a debian box.
231 [04:11:59] <lenswipe> Specifically, I'm compiling
ffmpeg.
232 [04:12:05] <lenswipe> It just bombed out with
"/usr/lib/gcc-cross/arm-linux-gnueabihf/8/../../../../arm-linux-gnueabihf/bin/ld:
cannot find -lndi"
233 [04:12:23] <lenswipe> My instinct is that this error means
that the linker can't find the library "ndi". Is that
correct?
234 [04:12:26] <dvs> ,v libndi-dev
235 [04:12:27] <judd> No package named 'libndi-dev' was
found in amd64.
236 [04:12:41] <lenswipe> dvs, ?
237 [04:13:08] <lenswipe> it's a closed-source library,
it's not going to be in the repos
238 [04:13:37] <lenswipe> i have a copy of it from newtek's
website
239 [04:15:04] <dvs> They're still around?
240 [04:16:12] <lenswipe> newtek? Sure, why wouldn't they be
241 [04:17:19] <dvs> They're almost 40 years old! Good for
them.
242 [04:19:52] <lenswipe> heh.
243 [04:20:00] <lenswipe> well in the meantime, im trying to
compile ffmpeg with NDI support
244 [04:20:35] <lenswipe> and the compilation is failing because
(I think) the linker can't find libndi (that's my guess
based on that error
245 [04:20:54] <lenswipe> my question is...since I have a copy of
the entire SDK for ARM - is there a way to pass that to make?
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283 [05:26:16] <blackop> hi
284 [05:26:30] <blackop> i was using speedtest-cli v2.0.2 but it
is giving error
285 [05:26:37] <blackop> seems there is updated version 2.1.3
286 [05:26:42] <blackop> but distro doesnt have it
287 [05:26:54] <blackop> so do you know how to update?
288 [05:27:27] <lenswipe> sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade -y
289 [05:27:49] <monkwitdafunk> lenswipe, this is in the debian
reference?
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291 [05:28:52] <blackop> i mean will there be updated version of
speedtest-cli package?
292 [05:29:08] <blackop>
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293 [05:29:30] <Unit193> blackop: FWIW, 2.0.2-1+deb10u2 is in
stable-new.
294 [05:29:55] <blackop> Unit193: my version shows 2.0.2
295 [05:30:08] <blackop> so i installed 2.1.3 with pip install
command
296 [05:30:13] <Unit193> Most likely 2.0.2-1+deb10u1?
297 [05:30:17] <blackop>
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298 [05:30:35] <blackop> Unit193: i dont know but when i checked
speedtest --v it just showed 2.02
299 [05:30:40] <blackop> not 2.0.2-1
300 [05:30:57] <blackop> how can i get it ?
301 [05:31:15] <monkwitdafunk> you authenticate your trust
302 [05:31:25] <monkwitdafunk> am i right Unit193 and lenswipe ?
303 [05:31:48] <lenswipe> monkwitdafunk, ...what?
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305 [05:33:27] <monkwitdafunk> i was assuming it may be possible
for repositories listed in /etc/apt/sources.list that should not be
there as in my case when i wanted to volunteerfor h-node
306 [05:34:27] <monkwitdafunk> sorry. it is getting late for me
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309 [05:35:52] <monkwitdafunk> blackop, are you willing to
compile from source? there was once i time i needed iperf 3
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322 [06:08:04] <somiaj> ,v speedtest-cli
323 [06:08:05] <judd> Package: speedtest-cli on amd64 -- jessie:
0.3.1-1; stretch: 1.0.0-1; buster: 2.0.2-1+deb10u1; bullseye:
2.1.3-2; sid: 2.1.3-2
324 [06:08:22] <somiaj> ,check-backport speedtest-cli
325 [06:08:23] <judd> Backporting package speedtest-cli in
sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12).
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327 [06:08:46] <somiaj> blackop: outside of needing debhelper
from backports, looks like you might be able to backport
speedtest-cli from bullseye.
328 [06:08:57] <somiaj> !ssb
329 [06:08:58] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install
build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source
packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation
options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid
see <uupdate>.
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343 [06:34:49] <monkwitdafunk> somiaj, if i were to just use the
cdrom: debian archive repository, do i need backports?
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346 [06:37:48] <sney> monkwitdafunk: you will need debhelper from
backports, and its dependencies. otherwise you should be able to get
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2146 [07:49:36] <gmcastil> i'm rolling with the Debian 10.9
live installer on an older Dell laptop - after the bootloader,
it tries to fire up Gnome, and then fails with a message saying the
system cant recover - how can i get a more complete log of what
actually happened during boot?
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2148 [07:52:48] <alkisg> gmcastil: ctrl+alt+f2 to get a shell,
then dmesg and journalctl -f?
2149 [07:53:04] <alkisg> Maybe also try adding nomodeset in the
kernel parameters...
2150 [07:54:03] <gmcastil> wouldnt let me get to a shell - just a
log out button and then a blank screen with a cursor in the upper
left that isnt flashing
2151 [07:54:21] <alkisg> ctrl+alt+f2 switches to another vt; that
didn't work either?
2152 [07:54:32] <gmcastil> nope
2153 [07:54:42] <gmcastil> main menu doesnt seem to let me edit
kernel arameters for live
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2155 [07:54:54] <alkisg> Then it's probably completely
hanged, it wouldn't answer to pings or remote connections
either...
2156 [07:55:01] <alkisg> That's still the live cd, not the
installed system, right?
2157 [07:55:05] <gmcastil> right
2158 [07:55:13] <alkisg> Try adding nomodeset to the kernel params
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2160 [07:56:06] <gmcastil> dont have any options to edit kernel
parameters
2161 [07:57:12] <alkisg> Press <tab> in the menu
2162 [07:57:24] <alkisg> It should show a line at the bottom with
kernel parametesr
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2164 [07:57:38] <alkisg> Replace "splash quiet" there
with "nomodeset"
2165 [07:57:58] <gmcastil> ah, <tab>
2166 [07:58:02] <gmcastil> kept trying 'e'
2167 [07:58:10] <alkisg> e is for grub, tab for syslinux-based CDs
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2170 [08:02:57] <gmcastil> ah, well that seems to have fixed it
2171 [08:03:19] <alkisg> Maybe proceed with the installation that
way then, and you'll resolve the graphics glitches later on in
the installed system...
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2173 [08:03:40] <gmcastil> yeah, i'm reading a stack overflow
question about this modeunset parameter
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2175 [08:04:31] <gmcastil> so, according to this, video card
clocking and configuration are done by the kernel now instead of by
the X11 server itself?
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2177 [08:04:53] <alkisg> Right
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2184 [08:21:03] <CryptoSiD> Hi, is it fine to ask stuff about
debian testing?
2185 [08:21:18] <CryptoSiD> and/or bullseye
2186 [08:21:28] <Unit193> This channel is for Debian stable,
testing is in #debian-next on OFTC.
2187 [08:21:30] <Unit193> !oftc
2188 [08:21:30] <dpkg> OFTC is the Open and Free Technology
Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC
network: irc.oftc.net. You may (or may not) be connected to
OFTC's network.
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2190 [08:21:40] <Unit193> !debian-next
2191 [08:21:40] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net. See also
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2192 [08:27:20] <themill> bullseye should be fine here at this
stage, however.
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2196 [08:29:03] <rockworld> does anyone can tell me how to know
what is the permission number when doing ls -la I can see -rw-r--r--
on a file
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2198 [08:29:53] <rockworld> is it a 640, 700, 755, 751, 777, etc?
2199 [08:30:19] <themill> if you use "stat filename" it
will show you both
2200 [08:30:44] <rockworld> ok thank you
2201 [08:30:50] <themill> chmod(1) has a paragraph on how to do
the calculation yourself
2202 [08:30:57] <themill> !man 1 chmod
2203 [08:30:57] <dpkg> man 1 chmod is probably at
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2205 [08:31:34] <rockworld> thats good to know I was alway
wondering how to understand that
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2209 [08:37:15] <selfkinetic> hello, I'm trying to fix
a "apt-issue with the debian repo" - for
docker. I'm receiving this error posted in a gist I
created. --->
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2210 [08:37:25] <cef> I have a TV screen (on another PC) that is
connected to the DisplayPort (via a DP to HDMI cable). The TV does
4k @ 30 Hz, but I want to always force it to use 1920x1080,
particularly if the screen goes away and comes back (switching
inputs on the screen or with the TV off, is when it sometimes
defaults back to 4K - but not always!). I have it doing 1920x1080 on
the login screen no issue, just in the desktop. Using Xfce if that
helps.
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2212 [08:40:32] <themill> selfkinetic: the three normal problems
are (a) date/time is wildly wrong (b) guest has run out of disk
space (c) docker host has run out of disk space (particularly with
the mac docker-in-vm thing)
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2214 [08:41:42] <selfkinetic> @themill I did see that dialog come
up after a build. What do I do to fix it? I'm a
boot at this, sorry.
2215 [08:42:52] <themill> a dialogue box about a disk space
problem?
2216 [08:43:24] <selfkinetic> in the command line
2217 [08:43:57] <selfkinetic> it was before the event that I
posted in the gist I created
2218 [08:44:46] <selfkinetic> although I have plenty of disk space
(physically) so that doesn't make sense to me
2219 [08:45:05] <themill> what OS is the docker host running?
2220 [08:46:24] <selfkinetic> Client: OS/Arch: darwin/amd64
2221 [08:46:36] <selfkinetic> Server: OS/Arch: linux/amd64
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2223 [08:48:18] <themill> I know nothing about docker or macs...
but I recall reading something about purging stale images to solve
this problem
2224 [08:48:48] <selfkinetic> This is an observation from
tabakhase in the docker channel: a) looked good from your build-log
containign timestamps - b/c depends on "how you run
docker"
2225 [08:48:48] <selfkinetic> [12:45:18 AM] <tabakhase> disk
full is a not a bad idea tho... seen that bite people before indeed
2226 [08:50:00] <themill> "prune" rather than
"purge" might be the correct keyword
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2235 [09:00:00] <selfkinetic> @themill pruning worked Thank You!
2236 [09:00:11] <themill> excellent!
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2248 [09:10:00] <cef> Q: Is the only way to force a specific
default "Preferred Mode" to still create a monitor file
for X11? Not even sure if this default Deb 10 install I did is using
X or wayland.
2249 [09:13:58] <alkisg> cef, can you pastebin the output of
`xrandr` ?
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2252 [09:20:46] <cef> alkisg: it's not the machine I am on..
I'll see what I can do.
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2256 [09:22:16] <cef> basically though it shows the + next to the
4k res, and * next to 1920x1080. It seems very sad that xranr
can't change that preferred mode setting (least, that is what
seems to be the case from what I looked at)
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2259 [09:22:51] <alkisg> if xrandr says XWAYLAND, it's
wayland, otherwise it's xorg
2260 [09:23:19] <alkisg> Xorg supports /etc/X11/xorg.conf, wayland
doesn't; both support video= kernel cmdline settings; and gnome
supports saving the user resolution, not sure about the system one
2261 [09:23:23] <cef> ok.. xorg then
2262 [09:23:54] <alkisg> To tell you the video= setting, the
output of xrandr would help. At least the desired mode and the
output name
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2264 [09:24:52] <cef> just pushed it to a file.. grabbing a usb
key to copy it off the machine
2265 [09:25:18] <alkisg> xrandr | nc termbin.com 9999 => would
give a URL, if it's connected to the net
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2267 [09:26:38] <cef> I'll remember that for next time. ;)
2268 [09:27:38] <cef>
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2269 [09:28:12] <alkisg> + is the default, * is the current. Which
one you want as the default?
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2271 [09:28:17] <alkisg> The 1920 one?
2272 [09:28:20] <cef> 1920x1080 is the mode I want by default for
Preferred. I'm not too fussed if the console is 4k
2273 [09:28:39] <cef> but that would be easier on the eyes if I
need the comsole
2274 [09:29:02] <cef> s/comsole/console - damn fingers
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2276 [09:29:23] <alkisg> OK try this in the kernel cmdline:
video=HDMI-1:1920x1080@60
2277 [09:29:29] <alkisg> Do you know how to put that in grub?
2278 [09:29:43] <cef> Yup. Cool.. Will give it a shot.
2279 [09:29:48] <alkisg> OK
2280 [09:29:50] <cef> thank you.
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2301 [10:12:50] <cef> alkisg: well, neither
video=HDMI-1:1920x1080@60 or using
drm.edid_firmware=HDMI-1:edid/1920x1080.bin seem to force the
default res to 1920x1080 after boot.
2302 [10:14:02] <cef> in the meantime, I have 'xrandr -s
1920x1080' in lightdm's config, and I've added a
default launcher that calls 'xrandr -s 1920x1080' so at
least it's easy to get back to a reasonable res.
2303 [10:16:15] <alkisg> cef: which graphics driver is that, e.g.
intel, nvidia?
2304 [10:16:33] <cef> intel. it's also old (ie: i915).
2305 [10:16:53] <alkisg> You may create an /etc/X11/xorg.conf with
a PreferredMode entry, see e.g.
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2307 [10:17:16] <cef> this will do in the meantime till I go down
the xorg.conf route
2308 [10:17:21] <alkisg> Although intel did respect the video=
setting all the times I tried it; is it there in cat /proc/cmdline ?
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2310 [10:18:17] <cef> Yeah and mentioned in /var/log/messages as
well.
2311 [10:19:36] <alkisg> Strange then. Anyway here's the
generic xorg.conf I'm usually using:
replaced-url
2312 [10:19:36] <cef> Anyway, past 6pm now so dinner and watching
stuff (eg: youtube) using said box.. this'll do for the moment.
Thanks anyway and I'll follow up on the xorg.conf method later.
2313 [10:19:45] <alkisg> It should be enough to uncommented the
preferred mode line there
2314 [10:19:49] <alkisg> Cheers
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2458 [14:10:38] <wyoung> win 15/
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2469 [14:39:23] <tcurdt> when I put a file into /etc/cron.d do I
need to reload/restart cron?
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2471 [14:40:42] <jhutchins> tcurdt: No, it reads the files each
time it runs.
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2473 [14:41:45] <tcurdt> hm .. odd ... somehow it wasn't
starting my job and I didn't see anything in the logs about it
2474 [14:41:57] <tcurdt> guess that needs some more digging then
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2479 [14:45:14] <tcurdt> something I wondered before: is there a
way to poke cron to trigger a job - just for testing? ... like
"run cron as if it was 09:00"
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2481 [14:48:27] <nkuttler> tcurdt: um, just * * * * * and remove
it after the full minute?
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2483 [14:49:48] <tcurdt> nkuttler: yeah, that's what I am
doing currently ... but that's still not quite the same
2484 [14:49:57] <tcurdt> good enough to debug the one job
2485 [14:50:54] <tcurdt> but it would be nice if there was a
dryrun that would tell you what would happen at that time
2486 [14:51:05] <tcurdt> and then execute as if was
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2505 [15:19:24] <echoSMILE> How to filter with grep using two
strings a the same line?
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2507 [15:21:14] <echoSMILE> Got it.
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2516 [15:36:08] <jhutchins> tcurdt: What's the name of the
file?
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2539 [16:05:50] <berkhan> Hi everybody! I am interested to install
new Debian installation with cloud-init. I looked in the Wiki but
could not find anything useful. Is preseed the only way to setup new
Debian on a virtual machine (XenServer)?
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2544 [16:17:59] <tomreyn> berkhan: you can also manually run the
installer. or use debootstrap.
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2546 [16:18:57] <deadrom> hi
2547 [16:20:06] <deadrom> Just heard ofo RotaJakiro - sorting out
if this is press humdrum or to be considered. Anything know yet,
thread assessment, distribution, path, impact etc? Debian systems
affected, repositories breached/tainted?
2548 [16:22:41] <berkhan> tomreyn: I want to create instances
on-demand. For example today, I need to setup a FTP server, but I
really don't want to get into the Debian Installer. I guess
using preseed is the only option in Debian for automated
installation
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2551 [16:24:41] <ratrace> deadrom: press humdrum. someone found
something uploaded on virus total. looks like a tool you have
_install_ or "somehow" get onto the target system. shrug.
2552 [16:25:13] <ratrace> (there's tone of those)
2553 [16:25:30] <deadrom> Alright, thanks.
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2555 [16:26:54] <tomreyn> berkhan: there's also
replaced-url
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2557 [16:27:30] <tomreyn> so now you have three options: preseed,
debootstrap, FAI
2558 [16:27:47] <berkhan> > A tool for automated unattended
installation. Lazy system administrators like it.
2559 [16:27:47] <berkhan> This is what I want :)
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2562 [16:29:04] <deadrom> That said I recently came to think that
doing this computer stuff for a couple decades one tends to rely on
old knowledge. The other day I get a notification on my desktop from
a messenger - while the web interface of said messenger was not open
in the browser I use for accessing it. So if I did not load their
web interface and did not install externsions for it, how do I get
desktop notifications? What does my browser silently run in the
2563 [16:29:06] <deadrom> background I am not aware of? Why does
it even run?
2564 [16:30:16] <tomreyn> welcome to the current millennium
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2567 [16:31:35] <ratrace> deadrom: chromium?
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2569 [16:31:55] <deadrom> ratrace: yes indeed
2570 [16:32:14] <ratrace> deadrom: go to its settings and disable
those things, including running apps in the background and/or when
chromium exits
2571 [16:32:37] <deadrom> "Do no evil", fnord.
2572 [16:32:44] <deadrom> thanks
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2574 [16:33:49] <ratrace> it's not evil. it's not
hidden, it's in teh settings. I guess you missed to disable
that earlier, or read the proper documentation or release notes for
the programs you use. :)
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2577 [16:34:37] <berkhan> deadrom: I am also using Chromium day to
day, but I did not see such thing
2578 [16:34:39] <deadrom> ratrace: well, technically you're
right, but if they really cared about my privacy they would not make
it default:on
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2581 [16:35:37] <ratrace> the lack of "privacy" is the
price for free (as in beer) software.
2582 [16:36:23] <ratrace> I don't think we can reasonably
expect free (as in beer) things to not work against us.
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2584 [16:37:20] <deadrom> another badge on my tinfoil hat.
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2605 [16:53:18] <superbatmand> hi everyone
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2611 [16:54:44] <superbatmand> i would like to know if zulucrypt
is safe option to use r no i checked bot on internet looks like
veracypt for some reason is more populer
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2626 [17:03:05] <ratrace> superbatmand: looks like that's
just a frontend to cryptsetup and "tcplay" whatever that
is?
2627 [17:03:55] <ratrace> infact, the upstream website says it can
also manage truecrypt and veracrypt volumes
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2630 [17:04:23] <ratrace> never heard of it until now, tho. I
prefer LUKS directly via cryptsetup.
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2633 [17:06:17] <superbatmand> fii used luks to make encypted usb
using gnome disk i like it but i am not very good with all terminal
commands still learning so wanted to know what should i use to
encrypt my private folder i had only two otions in mind zulucrypt
and veracrypt
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2640 [17:09:36] <superbatmand> any suggestion will help specially
from expiriance users of this softwares
2641 [17:09:40] <Bayesian_Coffee> quick q for a debian newbie.
i'm coming from Fedora / RH ecosystem because of a bad bug
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2643 [17:10:02] <Bayesian_Coffee> does debian's fwupmgr keep
track of lenovo thinkpad UEFI updates?
2644 [17:10:18] <Bayesian_Coffee> on fedora, there were firmware
updates that did get pushed to Software Center on GNOME
2645 [17:11:14] <superbatmand> thanks ratrace for sharing your
views
2646 [17:11:31] <ratrace> Bayesian_Coffee: no idea about _that_
particular firmware, but in general, in Debian Stable, once
released, breaking updates are never or very rarely (where
justification exists, for noncritical software) introduced for that
release.
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2648 [17:12:26] <cosimone> hello, does anyone know if this was
backported already?
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2649 [17:12:28] <judd> Bug
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2653 [17:13:27] <ratrace> !cve lookup CVE-2021-30145
2654 [17:13:28] <dpkg> Information about the security advisory
CVE-2021-30145 may be found at
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2655 [17:14:01] <ratrace> looks like Nope.
2656 [17:14:48] <jelly> ratrace, fwupd gets firmware metadata and
firmware itself from its own repos, independently of the packaging
system
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2659 [17:15:14] <ratrace> jelly: oh? didn't know that.
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2661 [17:15:46] <jelly> and in theory ought to behave the same
regardless of the distro, taking into account just the hardware
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2663 [17:15:58] <ratrace> that's terrible then, esp for efi
which is easily brickable for some... buggier... variants
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2665 [17:16:33] <ratrace> and by brickable I mean turn hardware
into paperweight, not "oof, I can reset bios or something"
2666 [17:16:37] <jelly> debian can't really verify sanity of
hw vendor blobs
2667 [17:16:50] <ratrace> yeah
2668 [17:17:43] <Bayesian_Coffee> ratrace: i'm just waiting
on whatever firmware lenovo produces
2669 [17:18:15] <Bayesian_Coffee> ratrace: like does debian's
fwupmgr handle it?
2670 [17:18:36] <jelly> Bayesian_Coffee, it shouldn't behave
any different that fwupdmgr on any other distro
2671 [17:18:37] <Bayesian_Coffee> when there's a new one,
will it come through?
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2673 [17:18:56] <ratrace> Bayesian_Coffee: obviously, I
didn't quite understand how fwupd worked until now. I thought
there was a packaged DB or something like that.
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2675 [17:19:45] <Bayesian_Coffee> i guess i don't really
understand what the relationship of the hardware vendors is to the
different distro's repos
2676 [17:19:51] <jelly> I don't use gnome, so no idea if the
Software Center integration is present
2677 [17:20:02] <Bayesian_Coffee> like how does a firmware update
get into a distro? fedora or debian, for isntance?
2678 [17:20:09] <jhutchins> Bayesian_Coffee: I don't think
you should expect regular updates. There's usually one, about
the time a new model hits the market, then they're done, on to
the next model.
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2680 [17:20:33] <ferz> Hi.
2681 [17:20:33] <ferz> I've installed mosh via apt-get
install mosh on a remote debian pc with 10 (buster) and it
doesn't find the mosh-server even if it's on the $PATH in
/usr/bin
2682 [17:20:33] <ferz> I've already created the locale too.
Is there any other using mosh that had already this mistake and he
has fixed its config?
2683 [17:20:39] <jelly> Bayesian_Coffee, firmware that is shipped
with fwupd uses distribution canals independent of the distro
2684 [17:20:59] <Bayesian_Coffee> i've seen thinkpad updates
come through maybe every 6 mo or so
2685 [17:21:11] <Bayesian_Coffee> anyway the reason why this is an
aissue is that i'm on debian as a backup
2686 [17:21:23] <jelly> jhutchins, that's not true. I got 3-4
uefi, me, thunderbolt, nvme ssd updates for this thinkpad in the
last 2 years
2687 [17:22:08] <Bayesian_Coffee> a new shim in fedora 34 exposed
a crazy uefi bug
2688 [17:22:51] <jhutchins> Interesting. I used to maintain about
200 thinkpads, and once the first update was out, that was it.
2689 [17:23:00] <jhutchins> It's not like the hardware is
constantly shifting.
2690 [17:23:28] <jelly> the firmware however, has bugs, and there
are security issues sometimes
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2692 [17:23:48] <ratrace> is that specific to lenovo? my (asus)
mobo has had a number of updates, and I mean updates I looked up on
their site and downloaded manually and put on a FAT stick for it to
take on boot and apply.... or are we talking about different things.
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2694 [17:25:36] <jelly> no, there's a dozen different vendors
uploading fw updates to LVFS
2695 [17:26:34] <jhutchins> jelly: LVFS?
2696 [17:26:40] <ratrace> "no" it's not specific,
or "no" we're not talking about the same kind of
firmware updates
2697 [17:27:02] <ratrace> jelly: Linux Vendor Firmware Service
2698 [17:27:04] <jelly> no it's not lenovo specific
2699 [17:27:05] <ratrace> jhutchins: ^
2700 [17:27:23] <ratrace> jelly: ah gotcha
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2702 [17:28:58] <Bayesian_Coffee> jelly: interesting, thanks. will
look for the update
2703 [17:29:20] <jhutchins> Yeah, well, things change.
2704 [17:29:49] <jhutchins> Why wouldn't updates to firmware
packages be incorporated in the main apt updates?
2705 [17:30:20] <jelly> debian does not redistribute flashable
firmware at all
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2707 [17:31:39] <jhutchins> Ok, so distinct from the kind of
firmware we associate with things like WiFi firmware.
2708 [17:32:11] <jelly> those are loaded at boot time.
2709 [17:32:55] <jelly> uefi firmware, or disk firmware, or
thunderbolt (= pcie) firmware can't be loaded after boot for
obvious reasons
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2711 [17:33:49] <jhutchins> Does this apply to pre-UEFI systems?
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2714 [17:34:33] <jelly> no idea
2715 [17:35:51] <ratrace> afaik it does. bios updates always
required special floppies or USB key with vendor programs
2716 [17:35:54] <jelly> but in general vendors that bother with
fwupd do so if they sell hardware that is supposed to run linux.
Dell XPS models, Lenovo Thinkpads, Thinkstations, etc
2717 [17:36:44] <jelly> fwupd saves them the trouble of developing
their own fw upgrade tools
2718 [17:36:55] <jelly> s/upgrade/distribution/
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2722 [17:42:31] <Bayesian_Coffee> so the fwupmgr has its own repo
that it hits?
2723 [17:46:58] <jhutchins> Nothing I own appears to be supported.
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2730 [17:58:37] <Bayesian_Coffee> oh i see
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2794 [19:31:55] <concordia> Hello, how to remove "Possible
missing firmware.." output when generating initramfs ? Thanks
2795 [19:32:22] <nkuttler> install the firmware?
2796 [19:32:39] <concordia> nkuttler, no need for it, it works
100% fine
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2798 [19:33:17] <sney> there's probably a way to hide the
warnings with configuration in initramfs-tools
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2801 [19:33:45] <concordia> sney, I look in initramfs.conf and
update-initramfs.conf but nothing relevant
2802 [19:34:16] <sney> the default behavior is not explicitly
configured then, you'll have to read through the documentation
2803 [19:34:58] <petn-randall> concordia: Then you can just ignore
it?
2804 [19:35:50] <sney> !warning
2805 [19:35:50] <dpkg> Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings.
Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11
warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared -
informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if
the program works as expected, be happy.
2806 [19:36:10] <concordia> petn-randall, of course but it's
annoying to have trillion of line wasting my terminal output. I
remember having set this up years ago on stretch but can't
remember the variable
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2808 [19:37:45] <petn-randall> It's like ... 3 lines? Which
is far less than this discussion took.
2809 [19:38:45] <concordia> petn-randall, ok nevermind.. sorry for
the trouble for asking a simple question.
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2811 [19:39:26] <sney> there are a couple drivers that go
overboard with it
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2846 [20:45:40] <ralinux> hi people, my pc-laptop with Debian
Bullseye, freezes touchpad,keyboard and mouse ramdonly, after that I
have to close lid, open and logging again, what could be the
problem?
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2848 [20:46:55] <sney> ralinux: as you can see from the channel
topic, testing/unstable support is in #debian-next on OFTC (note,
right now you are on freenode)
2849 [20:47:19] <ralinux> ok, sorry, thanks anyway,bye
2850 [20:47:50] <ralinux> can buster support newer hardware?
2851 [20:48:32] <sney> with the kernel from buster-backports,
usually yes
2852 [20:48:34] <avu> ralinux: the kernel from backports can help
with newer hardware
2853 [20:49:00] <ralinux> From backports?
2854 [20:49:12] <sney> !backports
2855 [20:49:12] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian
branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency
and <ABI> complications.
replaced-url
2856 [20:50:43] <ralinux> ok thanks!
2857 [20:51:42] <ralinux> anyway great distro Debian Bullseye but
this problem got me perplexed
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2860 [20:57:10] <oxek> ralinux: this problem is expected on
bullseye
2861 [20:57:16] <oxek> that's why it's in testing and
not stable yet
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2903 [21:58:32] <somiaj> with bullseye being realsed soon, might
as well start supporting it here to help us get use to the changes
once it is released
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2905 [22:00:57] <brokencycle> Hi! I am having problems with
fail2ban: It doesn't ban, although saying so.
2906 [22:02:01] <somiaj> brokencycle: 'iptables -L', do
you see the f2b-sshd chain? (here assuming you are wanting sshd
blocking)
2907 [22:02:56] <brokencycle> somiaj: It's a different jail,
but yes, I see the f2b-jailname chain.
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2909 [22:03:31] <brokencycle> There are also rules in there, like
eg. 0 0 REJECT all -- * * 5.188.206.236 0.0.0.0/0 reject-with
icmp-port-unreachable
2910 [22:03:35] <brokencycle> 0 0 REJECT all -- * * 5.188.206.236
0.0.0.0/0 reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
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2913 [22:03:43] <somiaj> brokencycle: but that ip isn't
actually being blocked?
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2915 [22:04:25] <jhutchins> brokencycle: A better strategy is to
a) Run it on a different port and b) Set iptables to throttle it to
something like 3/sec.
2916 [22:04:51] <brokencycle> Yes. In the app's logs, I can
still see that there are (unsuccessful) login attempts to the
service
2917 [22:04:54] <brokencycle> fromt hat IP
2918 [22:05:15] <brokencycle> jhutchins: That sounds like a good
idea, but the thing is, the rule seems to be ignored.
2919 [22:05:20] <somiaj> brokencycle: and you have an INPUT rule
that targest that chain?
2920 [22:05:45] <brokencycle> The chain has a "RETURN
statement last, and that has all the bytes associated with it in the
INPUT chain, too.
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2922 [22:06:07] <brokencycle> somiaj: Yes
2923 [22:06:18] <somiaj> I haven't used fail2ban outside of
the default sshd configuration it comes with, but just figured you
could at least double check the rules are being created
2924 [22:06:37] <brokencycle> It's actually the only rule in
INPUT
2925 [22:06:37] <somiaj> so unsure why the rules are being
ignored, or could there be some other rule taking presidence
2926 [22:07:07] <brokencycle> This is the last rule in the
f2b-service chain:
2927 [22:07:09] <brokencycle> 37 4625 RETURN all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0
2928 [22:07:24] <brokencycle> All other rules in there have 0
packets processed.
2929 [22:07:26] <somiaj> it isn't an tcp/udp issue, I notice
my rule only affects tcp.
2930 [22:07:48] <brokencycle> Yes. It should block *all* traffic.
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2933 [22:08:38] <brokencycle> I mean, it should block all traffic
from that IP. But inside the chain, all rules seem to be ignored.
2934 [22:08:41] <somiaj> well maybe someone else with more
knowledge than I can help out. I also don't know if maybe
##networking could also help out if you don't get any support
here.
2935 [22:09:18] <jhutchins> !iptables
2936 [22:09:18] <dpkg> [iptables] The user-space process used to
administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about
<netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up
iptables, see
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2937 [22:09:49] <jhutchins> brokencycle: It's usually a
problem with syntax, but that shouldn't happen with fail2ban.
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2939 [22:10:11] <brokencycle> jhutchins: fail2ban does insert the
right rules, as far as I can see. They just seem to be skipped.
2940 [22:10:37] <brokencycle> But I wonder whether this has
something to do with my networking setup. The packets come in
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2942 [22:11:26] <brokencycle> via an unnumbered ethernet, which is
a port on an OVS bridge.
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2945 [22:13:19] <brokencycle> Can iptables or nftables be turned
on and off on a per interface basis, or does it
2946 [22:13:27] <brokencycle> always work across the entire
system?
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2949 [22:14:09] <brokencycle> I looked at sysctl -a, but it
didn't leap out to me.
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2963 [22:25:43] <calamari> I'm trying to achieve no dropped
frames and no screen tearing in mpv. With LXDE, there is no tearing,
but there are dropped frames. With MATE, there is tearing (unless I
switch to compton/compiz, then there are dropped frames). Is there
another window manager that I should be using? Gnome 3? KDE?
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2971 [22:35:58] <jmcnaught> calamari: something that uses Wayland
instead of X11 might be worth a try. GNOME 3 uses Wayland by
default, for KDE there is the plasma-workspace-wayland package. In
bullseye there's also sway.
2972 [22:37:28] <calamari> jmcnaught: thank you
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2975 [22:42:43] <brokencycle> Ok. I think I found the fail2ban
problem: I use dovecot as a single source of truth to check for
2976 [22:43:14] <brokencycle> valid users and then reject invalid
users at the Postfix SMTP level. However, probing
2977 [22:43:59] <brokencycle> on behalf of spammers happens via
the SMTP port, but are detected by dovecot, so logged as
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2979 [22:44:06] <brokencycle> failings in the dovecot service.
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2983 [22:44:54] <brokencycle> To block those IPs, anyway, I
augmented the postfix filter with the regular expression matching
2984 [22:45:04] <brokencycle> dovecot, but so far, fail2ban
doesn't block on that.
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2990 [22:47:26] <brokencycle> I have dovecot and postfix jails
enabled, plus a few more
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3001 [22:50:30] <jolt> brokencycle: I'm no expert, but I
think the way I got it to work was with the fail2ban debugging
tools, then I restarted it after I updated the filter.d/ conf for
dovecot
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3052 [23:10:00] <brokencycle> I think I got it working now, sort
of. It would be quite helpful to have something like
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3055 [23:10:22] <brokencycle> ss -K dst <HOST> dport =
<port of relevant service> as an action.
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3057 [23:11:04] <brokencycle> Then bolt that onto any iptables
rule editing, and voila! Because it seems that
3058 [23:11:19] <brokencycle> fail2ban does not, by default, reset
the connection to the banned host.
3059 [23:11:25] <urk> I get the following error message on bootup
replaced-url
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3062 [23:12:01] <brokencycle> So the host keeps pounding the
service because established connections are not subject to
3063 [23:12:09] <brokencycle> iptables filtering, as far as I can
see.
3064 [23:12:14] <urk> Any idea how to fix this problem? I followed
the URL in the message, and attempted to download a file in a
referred url, but not sure what to do with it
replaced-url
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3068 [23:22:47] <jhutchins> !firmware
3069 [23:22:48] <dpkg> Firmware is software to operate electronic
devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux
kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace,
notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part
of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some
are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask
me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>.
replaced-url
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3071 [23:23:20] <somiaj> the package you need is
firmware-misc-nonfree
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3073 [23:25:49] <urk> somiaj: firmware-misc-non-free version is
already installed. However, I am accessing the internet via an
adapter, and a Cat 8 cable.
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3076 [23:26:59] <jhutchins> Is the firmware package backported?
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3079 [23:27:38] <urk> somiaj: There shouldn't be a problem
downlaoding this package. And to prove my point take a look at
replaced-url
3080 [23:28:24] <urk> jhutchins: I already have backports in my
/etc/apt/sources.list so it would have been automatically added
unless there was something wrong with the update routine. This
missing package has been a long standing problem.
3081 [23:28:35] <somiaj> Maybe I missed which firmware you needed,
you shouldn't need backports for the firmware I looked up (for
your gpu), are you wanting the wireless firwmare
3082 [23:29:21] <somiaj> but the firmware file that it says is
missing is in stable, so no need for backports.
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3086 [23:30:27] <somiaj> ,v firwmare-misc-nonfree
3087 [23:30:28] <judd> No package named
'firwmare-misc-nonfree' was found in amd64.
3088 [23:30:36] <somiaj> ,v firmware-misc-nonfree
3089 [23:30:37] <judd> Package: firmware-misc-nonfree on amd64 --
jessie-security/non-free: 20161130-5~deb8u1; stretch/non-free:
20161130-5; stretch-backports/non-free: 20190114-2~bpo9+1;
buster/non-free: 20190114-2; buster-backports/non-free:
20210315-2~bpo10+1; bullseye/non-free: 20210315-2; sid/non-free:
20210315-2; experimental/non-free: 20210322-1~exp1
3090 [23:30:45] <somiaj> but a newer version is in backports, you
could try that.
3091 [23:32:17] <somiaj> urk: also backport packages are never
isntalled automatically, you have to expliclity reqest they are
installed. But I don't know why you are talking about internet
via an adapter, are you trying to get wifi to work?
3092 [23:32:24] <somiaj> the firmware you have there won't
get wifi working
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3094 [23:33:08] <urk> somiaj: yes
3095 [23:33:42] <urk> somiaj: I had it working during the first
install of kernel 5.10l, but have decided not to use it because it
isn't nearly as stable as kernel 4.19
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3097 [23:33:51] <somiaj> It could be you need both a newer kernel
and firmware from backports for your wifi adpater. What wifi adapter
do you have?
3098 [23:34:20] <urk> somiaj: Don't have any because there is
no adapter with kernel 4.19
3099 [23:34:22] <somiaj> I don't know why 5.10 wouldn't
be nearly as stable as 4.19, they are both longterm support kernels.
But it could be the only way to get wifi support for your card is to
use a newer kernel.
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3102 [23:34:55] <somiaj> If your hardware needs a newer kernel
you'll want 5.10 + firmware from backports
3103 [23:35:06] <urk> somiaj: I had problems with 5.10, and a
couple of times the whole system crashed after only running a chmod
command on a couple of files.
3104 [23:35:51] <somiaj> My guess is something else is going on,
there are many using 5.10 just fine, and chmod shouldn't be
stressing things that much.
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3107 [23:41:47] <urk> I assume that i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin was
designed for kernel 4.19 or it wouldn't have shown up as
missing at bootup so this is the reason I was looking for advice on
how to install it.
3108 [23:42:09] <jhutchins> somiaj: We have seen some regressions
for 5.10 and certain hardware.
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3112 [23:46:03] <urk> Missing firmware is not showing up in
i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin
replaced-url
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3118 [23:47:55] <brokencycle> somiaj: I consider going back from
testing to stable in order to (hopefully) get my optimus graphics
working again.
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3120 [23:49:38] <urk> Based on the status message, the missing
firmware appears to operate runtime power management, and won't
likely assist with wifi.
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3122 [23:50:24] <jhutchins> brokencycle: You might ask in
#debian-next on oftc.net if there are known issues.
3123 [23:50:37] <qrpnxz> hello fellow debian users
3124 [23:50:50] <petn-randall> hi qrpnxz
3125 [23:51:05] <ryouma> is btrfs, even without compression, going
to supply, say 20gb extra space on a 2tb drive compared to ext4, due
to its various space saving features (not including compression and
dedup)?
3126 [23:51:07] <qrpnxz> would you believe i'm reaching you
via XMPP? amazin protocol
3127 [23:52:24] <qrpnxz> are y'all running bullseye yet?
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3129 [23:52:33] <qrpnxz> Been working well for me for over 6 month
3130 [23:53:21] <ryouma> any changes on stretch to buster
installation in the past few months? i.e. any gotchas discovered?
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3134 [23:55:01] <qrpnxz> haven't seen anything big/weird in
my regular upgrades, but idk
3135 [23:55:48] <somiaj> urk: firmware isn't exactly tied to
kernel versions, but 'ls /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin
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3137 [23:56:20] <somiaj> urk: If you have firmware-misc-nonfree
installed y ou should ahve that file. Though wonder if you need to
rebuild your initramfs to make it at boot.
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3139 [23:57:01] <somiaj> urk: Yes, I already said that the
firmware mentioned there is not for your wifi, its for your gpu. It
might just be 4.19 is not new enough for your wifi, if that is the
case you may have to track any bugs in 5.10 that effect your
hardware.
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3142 [23:57:22] <urk> somiaj: It isn't in there, and there is
no need to do an "ls" since the error message
wouldn't have been displayed if it was in there.
3143 [23:57:43] <somiaj> urk: then you don't have
firmware-misc-nonfree installed?
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3147 [23:58:16] <somiaj> urk: note I wasn't sure if error -2
meant that the file was missing, or maybe there was some other error
loading the firmware. Hence you said you installed the package, so
you can easily double check the file you need is in place.
3148 [23:58:30] <somiaj> urk: so you should run commands to double
check even if you think it is obvious.
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3150 [23:59:22] <somiaj>
replaced-url
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