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6 [00:03:32] <mxf> so I guess my question is now, how can i
specify i386 in another way? Should I use -a? (this fails with
"Command line option 'a' [from -a i386] is not
understood in combination with the other options.")
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10 [00:06:19] <mxf> babilen,
replaced-url
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55 [00:42:35] <techno2900> Hello, I would like to know if
it's possible to create a wifi hotspot and share a vpn
connection on it like on windows
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57 [00:45:03] <techno2900> thank you in advance !
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87 [01:11:32] <techno2900> anybody ??
88 [01:11:39] <techno2900> Since one hour I hold.
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90 [01:11:58] <somiaj> reask your question, after an hour is
enough time that new people may be present
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94 [01:13:12] <techno2900> I would like to know if it's
possible to create a wifi hotspot and share a VPN connection on it
95 [01:13:20] <techno2900> like on windows
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98 [01:15:11] <techno2900> somiaj : there
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100 [01:16:41] <somiaj> techno2900: possible, yes, but unsure on
any of the details.
101 [01:17:22] <techno2900> somiaj : okay
102 [01:17:45] <somiaj> I would look them up as two seperate
things
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105 [01:18:10] <somiaj> techno2900:
replaced-url
106 [01:18:24] <somiaj> once you get that set up, then work on
setting up the route to route the hotspot through the vpn
107 [01:18:34] <teraflops> techno2900: of course it can be done,
but idk if you want a detailed guide, if yes I dont think this is
the place
108 [01:18:34] <somiaj> note I think you need two cards for this,
but not positive.
109 [01:19:09] <techno2900> somiaj : and it is possible to share
a VPN connection on it ?
110 [01:19:32] <somiaj> techno2900: that is just
networking/routing, which is another thing you'll have figure
out/setup
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112 [01:20:40] <techno2900> okay, I will make some researchs. I
have to go. Thank you for your help :)
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228 [02:47:08] <mRCUTEO> hi how do i know where the executeable
binary come from using command line: example i type root@power:~#
shard and it try tries to run something but failed.. how do i know
where shard are installed?
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230 [02:47:56] <whiskey9> "which shard"
231 [02:48:41] <whiskey9> "locate shard |less"
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233 [02:49:10] <mRCUTEO> okay sir
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235 [02:49:33] <mRCUTEO> thank u
236 [02:49:53] <whiskey9> Finally, if it's not in your path
and locate doesn't work, "find / -name shard
-executable"
237 [02:50:09] <steakwipe> hi quick question, for user access to
/dev/uinput, do i need to be in the input group? googling around
doesn't seem to be helping me out a lot here. apologies if
it's a bad question
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239 [02:52:10] <steakwipe> most of my google results are related
to python, and i'm really not sure if that's what i'm
looking for. just trying to get this steam controller app
(sc-controller) to play nice. worked the other day so i'm a
little confused.
240 [02:52:23] <mRCUTEO> Whiskey: i can't seems to fine the
shard executeable command
241 [02:52:26] <Poster> steakwipe: You will want to check
permissions: "ls -l /dev/uinput" and see if the group has
read/write permissions, if it does, note th group name and
"sudo usermod -Ggroupname youruser" ; log out and back in
242 [02:52:38] <steakwipe> that's what i was going to try,
figured i'd check first
243 [02:52:40] <mRCUTEO> Whiskey: is there a way to unlinked it
from the command line
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245 [02:52:43] <steakwipe> thanks Poster :) will report back.
246 [02:53:41] <steakwipe> i did not want to start throwing
permissions changes at /dev/ unless i was sure :P
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250 [02:54:42] <whiskey9> mRCUTEO: I wasn't clear - when you
ran the command, did it say "command not found" or another
error?
251 [02:55:03] <mRCUTEO> root@power:~/tools# shard
252 [02:55:04] <mRCUTEO> -bash:
/root/ryzom/ryzomcore/code/ryzom/tools/scripts/linux/shard: No such
file or directory
253 [02:55:14] <mRCUTEO> Whiskey: something missing
254 [02:55:26] <mRCUTEO> i want do expunge the shard command
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256 [02:55:38] <mRCUTEO> so that shard command will comes out
command not found
257 [02:55:53] <steakwipe> thanks Poster, it does appear that
sc-controller isn't complaining now. still weird that i was
already in the input group, but it seems to be less upset now. :)
258 [02:55:54] <whiskey9> Does it show up when you run
"aliases"
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260 [02:56:11] <whiskey9> Err. Correction: "alias"
261 [02:56:52] <mRCUTEO> nope
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264 [02:59:10] <whiskey9> Hm. I bet a symlink to shard is in your
$PATH. Run "find / -name shard -type l"
265 [02:59:28] <whiskey9> & that symlink has a missing
target.
266 [03:00:10] <mRCUTEO> i try running find / -name shard -type l
nothings come out
267 [03:00:21] <mRCUTEO> yes maybe symlink
268 [03:00:35] <mRCUTEO> not sure where it is stored and cant
find shard
269 [03:00:58] <whiskey9> Okay, what about casting a larger net
and running "find / -name shard"
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271 [03:02:52] <whiskey9> So "which shard" returned
nothing?
272 [03:02:57] <mRCUTEO> yes
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274 [03:04:14] <Rusty1_> what is shard and how was it installed?
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276 [03:04:39] <whiskey9> Hm. That's strange. To my
knowledge, if which doesn't return anything, but you're
able to exec it without the full path it's a shell alias, &
the command "alias" should have returned something.
277 [03:04:43] <mRCUTEO> its a game source code
278 [03:04:54] <mRCUTEO> i compiled and it went to some folder
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280 [03:06:11] <Rusty1_> you compiled it in userspace?
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282 [03:06:16] <Rusty1_> or as root?
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294 [03:10:39] <phorce1> might want to use -iname in those find
commands just in case
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299 [03:12:08] <Guest15055> msg dpkg
300 [03:12:13] <mRCUTEO> i restart the server and its find
already :)
301 [03:12:38] <mRCUTEO> *fine
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320 [03:26:40] <whiskey9> mRCUTEO - heh. Good deal. I wonder if
hashall was disabled on your shell (set +h) for some reason. A hash
-r might have updated the path hash. *shrug*
321 [03:27:08] <whiskey9> I always try to avoid a reboot. I hear
the kernel starts rotting after a while and you have to recompile
your kernel.
322 [03:27:20] <whiskey9> To reset the kernel rot counter.
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324 [03:28:03] <mRCUTEO> :)
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335 [03:32:13] <misko> hi
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337 [03:32:25] <misko> i want to report
replaced-url
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339 [03:32:36] <misko> also ham, etc
340 [03:33:32] <misko> woody and up is up
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345 [03:34:43] <misko> idc because i have my masters, source
codes, .deb etc on a secure storre but hey make it up
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373 [03:53:11] <Delf> Audio works with pci sound card but not
with several of the different usb sound devices I've tried.
replaced-url
374 [03:53:12] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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382 [03:58:14] <Delf> Severity… SiRiUS! :)
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384 [03:59:30] <cjh2201> If my laptop touchpad is no functioning
on a new deb install, what command can I run if I need to find out
if it's synaptic or otherwise?
385 [03:59:39] <cjh2201> Not*
386 [04:00:35] <misko> Delf: alsactl restore
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395 [04:06:57] <mo1991reg> I am using an old laptop with an AMD
RS100 gpu. I'm using the built in kernel ATI module with the
linux-firmware-nonfree microcode. However, I can't get any
glxgears or acceleration
396 [04:07:21] <mo1991reg> anyone have any ideas? I know doing
stuff like stopping modesetting at boot can do tricks with these old
ass cards.
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399 [04:07:46] <mo1991reg> btw debian jessie
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401 [04:08:04] <cjh2201> Nomodeset at boot can sometimes work,
yes, I'm having to set it for my laptop until I install the
drivers.
402 [04:08:17] <cjh2201> It also can do weird things with your
laptop as well, so be wary
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438 [04:41:56] <karstensrage> so why is resolvconf calling
getpwnam with '*'
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470 [05:06:22] <random_numbers> What advantages are there to
calling 'apt' rather than say... 'apt-get'?
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479 [05:14:53] <awal1> random_numbers: apt is just say another
tool; seems like a mix of apt-get and apt-cache
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481 [05:15:20] <awal1> but it's work in progress
482 [05:16:09] <random_numbers> I see. I think I'll keep an
eye on it but keep my current workflow.
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485 [05:18:46] <awal1> me curious about the suse zypper pkg; I
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533 [05:50:46] <cjh2201> Can anyone recommend a good CLI/terminal
pandora or internet-radio client?
534 [05:51:06] <cjh2201> I know 'pianobar' exists, but
I think it's not been updated in a good while and is prone to
TLS handshake errors forever.
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536 [05:53:18] <LinuxNovice> hello, which DE between Xfce and
Mate is more lightweight and is suitable for old laptops.
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538 [05:53:21] <LinuxNovice> ?
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545 [05:58:16] <demonswaltz> LinuxNovice:
replaced-url
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547 [05:59:14] <qman> I haven't really used mate, but I
prefer lxde to xfce
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549 [05:59:23] <qman> it really boils down to preference though
550 [05:59:35] <qman> I've successfully used lxde on 128MB
RAM
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553 [05:59:56] <demonswaltz> As the article I linked points out
if you're comfortable with gnome 2 you'll like Mate.
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556 [06:00:30] <LinuxNovice> ok
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560 [06:01:21] <demonswaltz> How old is the laptop? There are a
lot of super minimal builds out there.
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562 [06:02:57] <LinuxNovice> It is 11 years old. Runs on Intel
Celeron M Single core 1.5 Ghz processor with 2 gb ram.
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564 [06:05:32] <demonswaltz> Do you have access to a machine that
can run virtual box? I'd just install a handful and see what
you like. A lot is preference. There's a Wikipedia article that
links to all the smallest distros.
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566 [06:06:39] <LinuxNovice> Now, I don't have access to any
machine to run virtual box on it.
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571 [06:08:21] <LinuxNovice> I'll try lxde also. I think, it
suits my laptop more.
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574 [06:11:14] <LinuxNovice> thanks guys, for your inputs and
suggestions.
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613 [06:59:46] <libertycity> Hola
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615 [07:00:34] <libertycity> Necesito ayuda, estoy tratando de
ejecutar una aplicación remotamente a través de SSH
616 [07:00:56] <libertycity> pero no lo consigo
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618 [07:01:06] <buu> Go on
619 [07:01:36] <libertycity> por otro lado, también estoy
tratando de conectar a una VPN que creía bien configurada...
pero no entiendo en qué parte está el error
620 [07:03:38] <electricark> Anyone have a fav video editor?
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622 [07:05:26] <libertycity> Necesito ayuda, estoy tratando de
ejecutar una aplicación remotamente a través de SSH
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625 [07:07:11] <buu> !debian-es
626 [07:07:11] <dpkg> Este canal es de soporte técnico en
Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en
Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join
#debian-es en la línea de chat.
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638 [07:25:43] <Delf> Also, hdmi audio seems to work too.
replaced-url
639 [07:25:44] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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641 [07:28:06] <mrrhq> >chromium: v55 security upgrade broke
Pulseaudio support
642 [07:28:08] <mrrhq> Best browser.
643 [07:28:12] <mrrhq> Hahahaha.
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645 [07:28:30] <somiaj> don't see how 'hdmi seems to
work' relates to that bug? Are you using pulse audio?
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660 [07:46:15] <martman> Dec 24 01:43:34 dns dnsmasq[837]: bad
option at line 1 of /etc/dnsmasq.d/m1
661 [07:46:19] <martman> the file has just one line
662 [07:46:23] <martman> 192.168.1.48 m1
663 [07:46:29] <martman> syntax checker says its fine
664 [07:46:35] <martman> im not sure what else to try
665 [07:48:14] <awal1> ,v chromium
666 [07:48:15] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 --
wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy:
37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 53.0.2785.89-1~deb8u1; stretch:
53.0.2785.143-1; jessie-security: 55.0.2883.75-1~deb8u1;
jessie-proposed-updates: 55.0.2883.75-1~deb8u1; sid: 55.0.2883.75-3
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673 [07:53:26] <demo> hello, has anybody here heard about Antix
Linux?
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682 [08:00:02] <awal1> demo: any question about debian?
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779 [09:15:15] <siegmarb> Hi, I'm doing monthly updates with
cron and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -o
Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" --force-yes -y - however
sometimes i get '2016-12-23 22:15:21 status half-configured
php5-fpm:amd64 5.6.29+dfsg-0+deb8u1' and i have to manually
kill the process, do adpkg --configure -a and select "keep the
local installed version"
780 [09:15:18] <siegmarb> howto avoid this?
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785 [09:17:06] <Hestben> siegmarb: what is the purpose of monthly
automated updates? If it for security, use unattended-upgrades
instead
786 [09:18:03] <Hestben> siegmarb: Otherwise, I would say it is
dangerous to upgrade packages without manual intervention, in case
something in the package configuration changes.
787 [09:19:08] <siegmarb> yes it's for security, what is
unattended-upgrades doing diffrent than my manual command?
788 [09:19:23] <brimonk> Hestben: Were you helping me with dhcp
and interfaces configuration yesterday?
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790 [09:19:33] <Hestben> siegmarb: It only takes the security
upgrades
791 [09:19:44] <Hestben> brimonk: Yes, that is correct
792 [09:20:27] <siegmarb> thank you - will go for
unattended-upgrades
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794 [09:22:18] <Hestben> siegmarb: Maybe you would be interested
in the package "logwatch" as well. It extracts portions of
the logs of the server and can mail that report to your mail
address.
795 [09:22:50] <Hestben> siegmarb: Then you get a small report
about logins and other stuff on the server.
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797 [09:23:55] <siegmarb> how can i check if the package
php5-fpm:amd64 5.6.29+dfsg-0+deb8u1 was security update or not?
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799 [09:24:21] <Hestben> siegmarb: That, I don'
800 [09:24:25] <Hestben> t know.
801 [09:24:41] <siegmarb> according to
replaced-url
802 [09:24:48] <mrrhq> Keep in mind, the upgrading process is
never always going to be perfect. It's a better habit to go
hands-on, and update manually every now and then.
803 [09:25:06] <mrrhq> Well, do you run a server? just curious.
804 [09:25:07] <siegmarb> so i dont see any advantage to use
unattended-upgrades
805 [09:25:15] <siegmarb> sure it's a server
806 [09:25:56] <mrrhq> Looks like there's a page about it
here:
replaced-url
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808 [09:26:50] <brimonk> Hestben: Could you check out my
configurations really quick? I've got this,
replaced-url
809 [09:27:02] <siegmarb> it seems that -o
Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" is not doing what it
should
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813 [09:27:21] <siegmarb> because it keeps wating infinite for
user reaction to confirm keep local version
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816 [09:29:29] <buu> 3 make: Entering directory
'/var/lib/dkms/aufs/4.8+20161219/build'
817 [09:29:30] <buu> 4 config.mk:54: *** hier. Stop.
818 [09:29:32] <buu> Good errors.
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822 [09:32:01] <brimonk> Hestben: Like, I just really don't
know what's going on here.
823 [09:32:03] <Hestben> brimonk: Hmm, I haven't tried using
multiple subnets for one dhcp-server
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825 [09:32:18] <brimonk> I know that it works on my personal
machine.
826 [09:32:25] <n4dir> siegmarb: i am not sure if apt-listchanges
can help you figure out what kind of upgrade an upgrade from the
past was, but you might have a look if it does
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829 [09:33:22] <Hestben> brimonk: There is somewhere, like in
/etc/default/isc-dchp-server where you specify which ethernet ports
to give addresses on
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831 [09:33:43] <brimonk> Hestben: oooohhh....
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833 [09:34:59] <brimonk> The real problem is that I get this: Dec
24 03:34:22 Nova-Omega-Master sh[7386]: Multiple interfaces match
the same subnet: enp5s0f0 enp5s0f1 and I don't know why I get
it.
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836 [09:36:05] <Hestben> brimonk: Is it a requirement to use
different subnets? It would be easier to have one subnet, and a
switch.
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838 [09:36:28] <Hestben> brimonk: Maybe you need more throughput
than what one ethernet interface can deliver?
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840 [09:37:29] <mrrhq> Is there really a big difference between a
subnet and a VLAN, or it it just more about network abstraction?
841 [09:37:31] <Hestben> brimonk: I need to run now
842 [09:37:43] <Hestben> Celebrating Christmas and stuff
843 [09:37:50] <brimonk> Darn
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845 [09:38:19] <Hestben> brimonk: I hope you can figure it out.
There should be more people here that know how to setup that kind of
stuff
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848 [09:38:37] <brimonk> Thanks Hestben.
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850 [09:40:21] <brimonk> Anyways, I tried to put all of the
ethernet devices onto the same subnet, and the dhcp server just
threw errors at me for putting them all on the same subnet.
851 [09:40:29] <siegmarb> thanks folks.
852 [09:40:31] <brimonk> That's why they're all on
separate ones.
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914 [10:19:53] <jim> was there a cadence package in debian, maybe
around 2013?
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918 [10:28:32] <Sabotender> I can't believe that this
weather widget is finally working. This is exciting
919 [10:28:43] <Sabotender> it just makes Cinnamon look all the
more beautiful with debian
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960 [11:02:42] <silver_hook> security.debian.org repositories on
my install claim to be unavailable (404)
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967 [11:06:52] <at0m> ,v cadence
968 [11:06:53] <judd> No package named 'cadence' was
found in amd64.
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971 [11:08:37] <at0m> there's cadence in kxstudio... a
'JACK audio toolbox'
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973 [11:09:23] <at0m> that isn't supported here, see
#kxstudio
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1011 [11:38:37] <danke> the defaults for the EXTRA_GROUPS setting
for adduser includes 'audio', but according to pulseaudio
that's the wrong thing to do
1012 [11:38:48] <danke>
replaced-url
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1014 [11:39:24] <danke> i was getting problems using fast user
switching in gnome, which is exactly what that says would happen if
the users are members of audio
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1016 [11:40:39] <danke> but is adduser what's used to create
the users when you install a new system?
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1105 [12:55:49] <domovoy> hi
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1107 [12:56:03] <domovoy> i'm trying to setup a libvirt
network (mode nat) so that dhcp is handled by my own dnsmasq (i need
that in order to set some cname, which work only on names from
dhcp). So i removed the <dhcp> section in <ip>, and
added the dhcp-range option to my own dnsmasq. no errors in logs,
but the machine doesn't get the address. my dnsmasq log says
the dhcpoffer IS sent. any idea?
1108 [12:56:04] <stoned> Hydrogen doesn't put out any sound.
I have tried all the sound engines in debian like alsa, jack, pulse
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1150 [13:20:48] <silver_hook> security.debian.org is now just for
updates?
1151 [13:21:49] <silver_hook> I get: W: Failed to fetch
replaced-url
1152 [13:22:28] <babilen> Why don't you use standard mirrors
?
1153 [13:22:49] <silver_hook> babilen: I do. But
security.debian.org is also in the lists
1154 [13:23:00] <babilen> Well, remove it then
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1157 [13:23:32] <silver_hook> babilen: Also the
“updates” one?
1158 [13:23:43] <babilen> (for != jessie/updates)
1159 [13:23:53] <babilen> No, I would guess that you want security
updates
1160 [13:24:00] <silver_hook> done
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1162 [13:24:23] <silver_hook> BTW, I’m trying to figure out
the pinning, and I’m failing at it miserably.
1163 [13:24:23] <babilen> Ah, you track testing .. not much use of
that then. Track unstable also and pull in security updates as they
enter unstable
1164 [13:24:48] <babilen> Which means that we should continue this
discussion in #debian-next
1165 [13:24:57] <silver_hook> babilen: I’m on jessie on arm.
1166 [13:25:06] <at0m>
replaced-url
1167 [13:25:24] <babilen> silver_hook: It says "testing"
up there .. could you paste your (current) sources.list to
replaced-url
1168 [13:25:46] <babilen> at0m: Yes, it is default
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1170 [13:25:59] <babilen> And everybody should have it
1171 [13:26:19] <silver_hook> babilen: With the testing line for
security.debian.org removed, this is what it looks like:
replaced-url
1172 [13:27:13] <silver_hook> And this is a `cat
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*`:
replaced-url
1173 [13:27:22] <babilen> silver_hook: Why did you have testing in
there at all?
1174 [13:27:38] <silver_hook> babilen: Hell no idea. I think it
came with it on Armbian.
1175 [13:27:45] <babilen> Well, you have testing in there, so you
are tracking testing not jessie
1176 [13:27:50] <silver_hook> I might have added it myself.
1177 [13:27:53] <babilen> dpkg: armbian
1178 [13:27:53] <dpkg> babilen: I give up, what is it?
1179 [13:28:04] <babilen> Doesn't really sound like Debian
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1181 [13:29:05] <silver_hook> babilen: Armbian is Debian-based
distro for ARM dev boards. The kernel and u-boot are optimised and
there’s a tiny bit of extras, but tries to be as stock Debian
stable as possible.
1182 [13:29:28] <babilen> Wouldn't really be supported by us
1183 [13:29:43] <silver_hook> I’m trying to meddle with
testing at all just because I’d like to get php7 working :/
1184 [13:29:45] <babilen> Either way, you are tracking testing and
would therefore have to treat it like a testing system
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1187 [13:30:25] <babilen> Read
replaced-url
1188 [13:30:44] <silver_hook> babilen: I figured as far
…but I don’t actually want to track testing, I just
want php7 from it and it’s not in backports yet :/
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1190 [13:31:10] <babilen> I'd strongly advise against that
1191 [13:31:23] <babilen> Either way, it'll most likely be a
horrible mess
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1193 [13:31:34] <babilen> Use a distribution that ships the
software versions you require
1194 [13:31:45] <stoned> :)
1195 [13:31:53] <babilen> (or target the PHP platform that ships
with the distribution you picked)
1196 [13:31:59] <stoned> You can build php7 yourself.
1197 [13:32:09] <stoned> build it in /opt and tell your php
scripts to use that binary instead.
1198 [13:32:10] <babilen> dpkg: based on debian
1199 [13:32:10] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare
replaced-url
1200 [13:32:11] <silver_hook> babilen: Oh well, I guess I can do
without php7 …have so far :P
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1202 [13:32:23] <stoned> It's trivial to build php.
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1204 [13:32:30] <stoned> I have done it many times
1205 [13:32:43] <stoned> I used debian stable's php mostly
but for new things I compile my own in /opt
1206 [13:32:46] <silver_hook> stoned: Yeah, I know, just not sure
if it’s worth doing (on an arm)
1207 [13:32:59] <stoned> For example, once I needed Gargabe
Collection and reference counting from 5.3
1208 [13:33:05] <stoned> But I was on 5.1 on debian.
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1210 [13:33:15] <stoned> Oh, arm, I dunno.
1211 [13:33:17] <babilen> Maybe I have been a bit too subtle: But
Armbian is *not* supported in here
1212 [13:33:18] <stoned> the worth you have to find out.
1213 [13:33:45] <stoned> Oh it's not even debian.
1214 [13:34:00] <stoned> !armbian
1215 [13:34:06] <stoned> eh.
1216 [13:34:21] <stoned> !searchkey armbian
1217 [13:34:30] <stoned> Been too long. I forgot the bot.
1218 [13:34:31] <silver_hook> babilen: Thanks for the link
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1220 [13:34:43] <silver_hook> babilen: Yes,I got this. I’ll
show myself out then :P
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1222 [13:35:29] <silver_hook> Thank you for your help and sorry
for the bother
1223 [13:35:36] <babilen> Good luck
1224 [13:35:38] <jamesl> dpkg: blends
1225 [13:35:38] <dpkg> A Debian Pure Blend (formerly Custom Debian
Distribution) is a subset of Debian configured to support a
particular target group out-of-the-box. Not to be confused with
distributions <based on Debian>.
replaced-url
1226 [13:35:40] <stoned> Helping is never a bother.
1227 [13:35:42] <stoned> Enjoy
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1247 [13:46:02] <silver_hook> stoned: I’ll probably just
resort to stable php and will just wait for the speedups from php7
when it gets backported. I’m moving from Gentoo, so very much
not looking forward to compiling one of the bigger packages on ARM
:P
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1283 [14:12:09] <no_gravity> Hello Everybody!
1284 [14:12:41] <no_gravity> I have a remote machine mounted via
sshfs and need to copy a 200mb file over. Doing so would saturate my
line for a while. Is there a way to copy it slowly?
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1288 [14:16:42] <stoned> maybe use bandwidth shaping to limit ssh
1289 [14:16:44] <Anonymes> Hi
1290 [14:16:51] <stoned> or maybe QoS on router to limit ssh
traffic?
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1293 [14:17:01] <stoned> Why not use rsync?
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1295 [14:17:24] <stoned> no_gravity: rsync has --bwlimit
1296 [14:17:29] <stoned> I'm unsure about sshfs
1297 [14:17:40] <stoned> I'm guessing it's fuse over scp
1298 [14:17:47] <no_gravity> well, i could rsync it to the sshfs
mount.
1299 [14:17:58] <stoned> No, I mean to the remote server
1300 [14:18:10] <stoned> you want to limit bw from your machien to
remote machine, yes?
1301 [14:18:14] <no_gravity> bwlimit will not work on local dirs?
1302 [14:18:29] <stoned> it works from source to destination
1303 [14:18:35] <no_gravity> yes, but since the remote machine is
mounted, it looks like a local dir.
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1305 [14:18:43] <stoned> Right, but it's not saving locally
1306 [14:18:46] <stoned> It's still saving remotely.
1307 [14:18:50] <stoned> Saturte your bw
1308 [14:19:03] <no_gravity> yeah, but if bwlimit works, it would
not saturate.
1309 [14:19:07] <stoned> no matter what is mounted locally, if you
put somethign there it will uplaod tot he remote machine.
1310 [14:19:13] <no_gravity> sure
1311 [14:19:16] <stoned> I see what you mean
1312 [14:19:18] <stoned> Try it out
1313 [14:19:21] <no_gravity> hallelujah
1314 [14:19:23] <stoned> I am unsure
1315 [14:19:39] <stoned> I think you're saying that is
it's SAVED TO THE local mount point slowly, it would upload to
the remote machine slowly
1316 [14:19:41] <stoned> That's reasonable.
1317 [14:19:45] <stoned> Try it out.
1318 [14:19:46] <no_gravity> yup
1319 [14:20:04] <no_gravity> Can rsync output progress while
copying a single file?
1320 [14:20:08] <stoned> Sure
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1322 [14:20:53] <no_gravity> Which param does that?
1323 [14:21:00] <stoned> Read the man, dude.
1324 [14:21:05] <stoned> man dude. dude, man.
1325 [14:21:10] <no_gravity> I thought you do the reading for me?
1326 [14:21:14] <stoned> No.
1327 [14:21:19] <stoned> G'way. G'way you. :D
1328 [14:21:21] <no_gravity> You read. I type. Shared duties man.
1329 [14:21:53] <stoned> no gravity. Apparently you live in space
:D
1330 [14:22:02] <stoned> --progress or -P iirc.
1331 [14:22:08] <stoned> I dunno, I'm also in space.
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1334 [14:23:01] <no_gravity> Ok.
1335 [14:23:19] <no_gravity> Looks like there is --progress
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1345 [14:27:14] <no_gravity> seems to work: rsync --progress
--bwlimit=1.5m
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1347 [14:27:49] <no_gravity> Oh, I think I don't even have
1.5m :)
1348 [14:27:55] * no_gravity tries fast.com
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1351 [14:28:05] <stoned> Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to
that iron string. Try 0.25m/s
1352 [14:28:25] <stoned> fast.com?
1353 [14:28:28] <cokolwiek> hey
1354 [14:28:33] <cokolwiek> this happens when I do apt-get update:
1355 [14:28:34] <cokolwiek>
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1356 [14:28:36] <no_gravity> fast.com only shows download speed :(
1357 [14:28:37] <cokolwiek> how do I fix it?
1358 [14:28:44] <stoned> try speedtest
1359 [14:29:12] * no_gravity tries speedtest.net
1360 [14:29:36] <no_gravity> 0.5m
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1362 [14:30:55] <stoned> cokolwiek: seems like you are having
apt-key issues
1363 [14:31:14] <stoned> cokolwiek: do you have
debian-archive-keyring packet installed?
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1366 [14:31:35] <cokolwiek> stoned: yes!
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1372 [14:33:58] <stoned> Maybe the stretch signing key is now
invalid/old/expired?
1373 [14:34:22] <stoned> sudo apt-key list | grep expired
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1376 [14:35:14] <stoned> pub 4096R/B3C01B09 2013-04-06 [expired:
2016-04-10]
1377 [14:35:22] <stoned> Interesting, for me too a key is expired.
1378 [14:35:27] <stoned> So I just requested the new one
1379 [14:35:31] <cokolwiek> stoned: lists only two expired keys
from Opera Software
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1390 [14:41:38] <stoned>
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1391 [14:41:50] <cokolwiek> stoned: there doesn't seem to be
any key labeled "stretch"
1392 [14:41:55] <cokolwiek>
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1393 [14:41:58] <cokolwiek> maybe this is the problem
1394 [14:41:59] <stoned> delet all keys and did File --> Update
Keys, which repopulated the keyring.
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1397 [14:43:18] <stoned>
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1398 [14:43:23] <stoned> Let's see if we can figure this out
1399 [14:43:44] <stoned>
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1401 [14:44:22] <stoned> gpg: key 55BE302B: public key
"Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny)
<ftpmaster@debian.org>" imported
1402 [14:44:27] <stoned> That's th eone for lenny
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1404 [14:44:42] <stoned> find the key for your distribution
version and fetch it and put it into trusted keys
1405 [14:44:56] <stoned>
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1409 [14:46:13] <stoned> Oh ffs. I'm an idiot.
1410 [14:46:19] <stoned> Stretch is the next one?
1411 [14:46:24] <stoned> I thought it was oldstable.
1412 [14:46:32] <stoned> you should go to #debian-next on OFTC
1413 [14:46:34] <stoned> My bad.
1414 [14:46:35] <cokolwiek> it's testing
1415 [14:46:44] <stoned> Please consult the correct venue.
1416 [14:46:49] <stoned> I can't help you. I only use
stables.
1417 [14:46:57] <cokolwiek> OFTC is an IRC server?
1418 [14:47:01] <stoned> yessir
1419 [14:47:04] <stoned> irc.debian.org
1420 [14:47:06] <stoned> !oftc
1421 [14:47:06] <dpkg> OFTC is the Open and Free Technology
Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC
network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network.
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1424 [14:48:47] <cokolwiek> ok, thanks
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1426 [14:49:09] <cokolwiek> I tried to join #debian-next on
FreeNode, but it is set to invite-only
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1429 [14:49:16] <cokolwiek> I didn't know it was moved to
another server
1430 [14:49:21] <stoned> np
1431 [14:49:40] <stoned> in your irc client, open another server
window and type /connect or /server irc.debian.org
1432 [14:49:53] <stoned> then join the #debian-next
1433 [14:49:56] <cokolwiek> yeah, I know how to connect to another
server
1434 [14:49:59] <stoned> ok
1435 [14:50:05] <stoned> Good luck, dude
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1440 [14:54:25] <jamesl> !oftc move
1441 [14:54:26] <dpkg> irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th
2006, see
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1442 [14:55:33] <jamesl> >propagate through the DNS system
1443 [14:55:36] <jamesl> >DNS system
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1450 [14:59:10] <kuldeep> I have a upstream shared libary. project
name is "libreplot" so i want to name binary package as
"libreplot-0" instead of "libreplot0" where
"0" is the INTERFACE_CURRENT. any issues?
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1512 [15:43:38] <ImUs3r> how can i uncompress zip file?
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1514 [15:44:05] <pingfloyd> with unzip
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1518 [15:44:21] <ImUs3r> upzip filname.zip?
1519 [15:44:25] <ImUs3r> ok? pingfloyd ?
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1522 [15:44:40] <pingfloyd> cd to the dir you want to unzip it in
1523 [15:45:10] <ImUs3r> i want to unzip in current directory
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1525 [15:45:38] <pingfloyd> unzip filename.zip
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1527 [15:46:11] <ImUs3r> -bash: upzip: command not found
1528 [15:46:16] <ImUs3r> what’s wrong?
1529 [15:46:23] <pingfloyd> that's your basic usage which
will extract to current directory and create any subdirectories as
need by the archive
1530 [15:46:31] <pingfloyd> you misspelled it
1531 [15:46:38] <pingfloyd> it's unzip not upzip
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1533 [15:48:39] <ImUs3r> thanks pingfloyd :)
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1536 [15:50:13] <pingfloyd> yw
1537 [15:50:28] <pingfloyd> how come jessie doesn't have
epdfview?
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1568 [16:06:49] <LinuxNovice> hello, anybody here has heard of
Antix?
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1580 [16:10:38] <jelly> !antix
1581 [16:10:38] <dpkg> antiX is a live CD distribution based on
<MEPIS>. It is not supported in #debian.
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1583 [16:11:01] <jelly> can't say I have, but someone seems
to have written a factoid on it.
1584 [16:11:24] <jelly> dpkg, factinfo antix
1585 [16:11:24] <dpkg> antix -- created by gsimmons
<~gsimmons@124-168-111-127.dyn.iinet.net.au> at Mon Jan 7
13:42:27 2008 (3274 days); last modified at Fri Nov 13 15:07:50 2009
by gsimmons!~gsimmons@gsimmons.org; it has been requested 91 times,
last by jelly, 46s ago.
1586 [16:11:37] <jelly> 2009, possibly outdated
1587 [16:11:38] <LinuxNovice> It is based on Debian.
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1589 [16:12:14] <LinuxNovice> I tried the latest version. Seemed
to me quite fast for old machines.
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1592 [16:13:52] <LinuxNovice> My question here actually is, is it
better to go for lighter official version of a distro like Debian or
for some customized respin like Antix.
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1600 [16:17:29] <pingfloyd> LinuxNovice: it's the
applications you use that it comes down to
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1602 [16:18:01] <pingfloyd> LinuxNovice: you can just install
debian base, and then use lighter software choices
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1604 [16:18:35] <LinuxNovice> ok. Leave the applications aside.
Consider the OS only.
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1606 [16:19:55] <pingfloyd> it's all the same software
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1608 [16:20:24] <pingfloyd> antix isn't magically lighter.
They just chose to use lighter applications by default.
1609 [16:20:26] <LinuxNovice> For a newbie to Linux, would it be
better to go for a respin that is built to meet certain needs or to
go for the main distro.
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1617 [16:27:28] <LinuxNovice> I wanted to know whether there is
any advantage of using the main distro like Debian.
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1624 [16:30:58] <mtn> LinuxNovice: "main distro"?
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1626 [16:31:21] <LinuxNovice> I meant Debian.
1627 [16:31:55] <LinuxNovice> I am new to Linux. Couldn't
find any appropriate word to describe it.
1628 [16:32:00] <mtn> LinuxNovice: lots of reasons to use debian
rather than ones based on debian. stability and quality are the main
ones
1629 [16:32:28] <LinuxNovice> please elaborate on that.
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1632 [16:33:00] <mtn> LinuxNovice:
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1639 [16:38:27] <phteven> hi all, and season's greetings.
i've run into a problem installing on a new comp with two
graphics cards. i'm really stuck, had about five goes. M5A97
R2.0, ATI HD6570 and R9 270. this board has two full-length pcie.
it's a system for iommmu. install is fine with either card
(without the other inserted), and with the R9 in the first, 6570 in
the second. problem i have is that with the 6570 in the first slot,
1640 [16:38:27] <phteven> all i get is a blank black screen as
soon as i choose an install option
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1645 [16:40:35] <phteven> interested in any ideas. tried
nomodeset, doesn't seem to make any difference. tried
installing debian first with one card and then adding the r9 to the
second slot. that seems to cause a hang at initial ramdrive
1646 [16:41:27] <LinuxNovice> I wanted to use Debian and
completely rely upon it instead of Windows. Can I expect Debian to
completely replace Windows?
1647 [16:41:50] <LinuxNovice> How can I make Windows applications
run on Debian?
1648 [16:41:56] <mtn> LinuxNovice: you will need to research the
types of apps you want to use
1649 [16:42:08] <mtn> LinuxNovice: also research wine
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1651 [16:42:29] <LinuxNovice> Can I install all the windows apps
on wine?
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1656 [16:43:07] <LinuxNovice> Basically, I need an OS for Home and
Office use.
1657 [16:43:16] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice as a heavy windows user
and new debian user, you should first check the apps you use if
there are alternatives in debian or generally linux, then you should
consider other options like virtualbox (run the missing applications
inside a box) or wine as a last option (good for games but for apps
i am not sure)
1658 [16:43:37] <mtn> LinuxNovice: no, not all. do some research
1659 [16:44:03] <LinuxNovice> I don't play games at all.
1660 [16:44:14] <R0B_R0D> I cant get zsnes installed on debian
jessie for the life of me... i have searched the net for all kinds
of repo sites but i cant get it yet
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1662 [16:44:36] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice first make a list of what
software you need and what you intend to work with. Then check one
by one
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1664 [16:45:09] <phteven> my idea with this new iommu stuff is to
run windows in a virtual machine
1665 [16:45:41] <R0B_R0D>
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1668 [16:46:10] <LinuxNovice> I find many packages that I need for
everyday use present in Debian repos. But, it is some applications
like Tally which is an accounting software, I need to run on Debian.
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1672 [16:47:33] <LinuxNovice> Generally, I find Linux distros and
Debian particularly more stable and least bothersome, as compared to
Windows.
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1676 [16:48:42] <LinuxNovice> can we install individual apps in
Virtualbox or we need to install Windows first?
1677 [16:49:06] <nkuttler> LinuxNovice: virtualbox gives you a
virtual machine, so you need an os
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1681 [16:49:15] <nkuttler> LinuxNovice: you can try to run
individual apps through wine
1682 [16:49:36] <LinuxNovice> ok
1683 [16:50:06] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice windows 7 is very stable
and reliable, we swtiched to 10 at work and we had some really
terrible problems. One thing you should consider is if you are
exchanging lots of ms office documents, libreoffice is not 100%
compatible (in my opinion not even 80%).
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1686 [16:50:56] <LinuxNovice> ok. Does that mean that it is better
to use MS Office in wine?
1687 [16:51:24] <nkuttler> LinuxNovice: i doubt wine can handle
office, but you'll have to do your own research
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1690 [16:52:03] <phteven> my question was too complicated. anyone
any ideas what might cause a boot to hang at initial ramdrive after
adding a second graphics card?
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1692 [16:52:10] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice I personally didn't
manage to make MS office to work in wine, others managed but had
crashes - What I did was to run Debian with all the software I need
in a virtual machine and test it for 1 week, see if you can work
with it
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1699 [16:55:28] <LinuxNovice> ok. It means we need to install
entire Windows OS in virtual machine and all the apps we need and
see if it works.
1700 [16:55:56] <LinuxNovice> am I right?
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1705 [16:57:49] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice, I meant : before
switching 100% to Debian, do a virtual machine running Debian and
install all software there. Work this virtual machine for 1 week and
see how it goes. I am currently on Debian and have a virtual box
running Windows for applications like Office which don't work
under Linux
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1711 [16:59:59] <LinuxNovice> I don't have the needed means.
I have only one laptop now.
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1714 [17:01:25] <Pr0metheus> LinuxNovice: you don't need
another computer, install virtual box and create a new virtual
machine, then install in the new virtual machine debian and start
using it. By this way you don't need to make any changes to
your current working environment
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1716 [17:02:39] <LinuxNovice> ok. I'll try that.
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1739 [17:21:31] <yokisuci> :/
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1808 [18:07:29] <lawnodor> hey why does everybody trying to use
debian jessie have to make a symbolic link for libSDL-gfx.so.4 to
point to where .5 points just to play the free game zelda3t from its
own directory
1809 [18:07:59] <lawnodor> or listen to some of the excellent
music in that game
1810 [18:08:09] <jelly> probably because said game wasn't
built for jessie
1811 [18:08:23] <Vizva> i did use this method for Meshmixer
1812 [18:08:27] <jelly> faking library sonames is usually not a
good idea
1813 [18:08:40] <Vizva> use newer libraries but point a link to it
1814 [18:09:08] <Vizva> if you use newer libraries to point at it
will be not a bad thing
1815 [18:09:21] <lawnodor> jelly well if they can port dfarc for
hundreds of free musical adventures associated with the freedink
engine...why should they have to make a simple symbolic link just to
hear the zelda3t music or experience the free game
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1818 [18:10:55] <Vizva> some programs are built for older
libraries, why dont use them with newer libraries , -- because use
the program will complain about not finding needed sources
1819 [18:10:57] <lawnodor> i thought jessie was stable ...why do
you have to do all these thousands of fixes just to use jessie
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1821 [18:11:55] <Vizva> is this a fix you talk about?
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1823 [18:12:17] <lawnodor> i mean if they can port the free 3d
game called prboom-plus with the freedoom wad file..just for jessie
why do you have to fix a link to use link
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1828 [18:12:40] <Vizva> sometimes its a private thing to use such
a link
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1830 [18:12:50] <Vizva> for me its private
1831 [18:13:04] <Vizva> my choice, other may do the same
1832 [18:13:16] <lawnodor> well there is only one link of
hyrule...why should he be private
1833 [18:13:39] <Vizva> i think the whole project is private parts
too
1834 [18:13:50] <Vizva> if you dont trust a thing you shouldnt use
it
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1836 [18:14:17] <Vizva> i cannot complain about every developer,
if i dont like the program x , so i dont use it
1837 [18:14:20] <lawnodor> lawnodor i am sure a lot of jessie
users want to hear the music in the great pyramid link has to
explore or when he has to go backward in time to save his future
1838 [18:14:24] <Vizva> whatever my reasons are
1839 [18:14:47] <lawnodor> and the future of princess zelda
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1841 [18:15:00] <Vizva> therefore it have many distros
1842 [18:15:07] <Vizva> because of diefferent opinions
1843 [18:15:11] <Vizva> different
1844 [18:15:39] <lawnodor> Vizva...dont you think a goddess like
princess zelda is worth saving?
1845 [18:15:57] <Vizva> i dont know but some believe in maybe
1846 [18:16:04] <Vizva> so its theyre choice
1847 [18:16:07] <Vizva> not mine
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1850 [18:17:22] <lawnodor> Vizva...well do you think the goddamn
crooked nigger dick suckin Nazi's and Jews should be allowed to
kill princess zelda or tifa or Annelise Frank or Margot Frank or
Kathy Ann Hademenos...or little Marlene
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1852 [18:17:36] <Vizva> i think you should kick that person
1853 [18:17:50] <Vizva> lawnodor stop being rude
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1889 [18:38:42] <domovoy> hi
1890 [18:40:07] <domovoy> i know this is not debian-specific, but
#dnsmasq is not very active. using dnsmasq, i managed to get
foo.virt resolved to a dhcp-host address (using domain=virt and
dhcp-host=...,foo.virt). Now, i'd like to make *.foo.virt
resolve as 'CNAME foo.virt' (not A, like it would with
address), any way to achieve that?
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2005 [19:40:30] <`ryban> merry christmas to all!
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2018 [19:47:15] <naptastic> Hi! idk if this is the best place to
ask, but here goes:
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2020 [19:48:00] <naptastic> I'm setting up a PXE environment
in my home network. I cloned a fresh Debian install into a directory
being served by NFS. It boots great.
2021 [19:48:42] <naptastic> However, it gets to the graphical
login screen and appears to hang. No input registers at all.
I've not yet attempted to SSH in
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2024 [19:49:46] <naptastic> I can SSH in.
2025 [19:50:33] <naptastic> > Could not chdir to home directory
/home/david: No such file or directory
2026 [19:50:36] <naptastic> wonder if that's the problem
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2029 [19:51:22] <fkmybrain_> hi
2030 [19:51:37] <naptastic> howdy
2031 [19:51:40] <fkmybrain_> someone on kali
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2042 [19:54:10] <fkmybrain_> can someone tell me a nice channel
2043 [19:54:12] <fkmybrain_> to join
2044 [19:54:18] * naptastic blinks
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2046 [19:54:46] <hello_> m
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2050 [19:55:33] <somiaj> !kali
2051 [19:55:33] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
2052 [19:55:44] <somiaj> fkmybrain_: kali linux has a channel on
freenode.net
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2068 [20:05:30] <vkolchev> Hi everyone, have problems watching
youtube videos on freshly installed jessie. Video starts as if there
is quickplay or fast forward and only clicks instead of sound. After
some time it goes back to normal. Every video starts like this.
Could anyone please help me fix it?
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2072 [20:06:56] <Anselmo> what browser?
2073 [20:07:09] <vkolchev> chromium. and it seems like alsa plugin
is glitching
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2075 [20:07:31] <Anselmo> do you have sound elsewhere ?
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2077 [20:07:57] <vkolchev> Anselmo, yes, it works everywhere else,
in system and when try to play any video/audio from hdd
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2079 [20:08:32] <vkolchev> Anselmo, when I go to sound
preferences, to Apps tab when video is playing
2080 [20:08:45] <Anselmo> my knowledge of chromium is
unfortunatley very limited
2081 [20:08:46] <vkolchev> It quickly switches from alsa -plugin
ot none
2082 [20:08:57] <Anselmo> hunh
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2084 [20:10:56] <Anselmo> you could try doing it with pulse, that
has sometimes worked for me with some programs
2085 [20:11:21] <Anselmo> but as far as a solution inside of
chromium itself hopefuly another person can chime in
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2106 [20:20:53] <vkolchev> Anselmo, thank you for your answer
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2111 [20:22:28] <vkolchev> The issue is only with chromium.
Firefox ESR works ok
2112 [20:22:40] <vkolchev> Seems like I can try chrome instead of
chromium
2113 [20:23:05] <Anselmo> hmm ok
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2126 [20:30:44] <Pr0metheus> Are web server and database packages
preconfigured to be secure?
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2128 [20:32:16] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: secure yes, but not hardened.
And security.debian.org does a good job fixing known exploits.
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2136 [20:35:05] <Pr0metheus> any suggestions on what web server to
run for php webpages along with a postgre database?
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2141 [20:35:47] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: ngnix seems to be fairly
popular these days. I like apache, but I'm use to it and it is
more feature rich.
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2143 [20:36:10] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: I'm also just a
hobbiest, so don't deal with much stuff in production.
2144 [20:36:31] <Pr0metheus> somiaj which would you consider more
secure ? I am on IIS and want to move everything from windows to
linux
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2146 [20:37:54] <Pr0metheus> but there is not enough time atm to
delve deep into it
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2148 [20:38:09] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: I would say they are on par
for that. It is more ngnix is a bit smaller of a foot print and can
be faster
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2151 [20:39:15] <somiaj> Pr0metheus: but apahce is very standard
and has more features that you may need that you cannot find in
ngnix. In terms of security, one isn't better than the other.
And Debian supports both so known security holes get fixed, so just
ensure you have security sources and update regurally. Also might
want to subscribe to the DSA
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2153 [20:39:36] <Pr0metheus> what is the DSA?
2154 [20:39:47] <Pr0metheus> debian securit announcements?
2155 [20:39:49] <somiaj> Debain security anoucnemnts, a mailing
list,
2156 [20:39:50] <somiaj> !dsa
2157 [20:39:50] <dpkg> [dsa] Debian Security Announcement, see
replaced-url
2158 [20:40:09] <somiaj> this lets you know when packages are
avilable and you should ugprade
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2161 [20:41:17] <Pr0metheus> i currently use debian with unstable,
in stable mode is it possible to do an inplace upgrade to the next
stable version when available?
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2174 [20:45:00] <Pr0metheus> Pr0metheus; the answer is yes :)
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2189 [20:53:43] <exa_ways> hello. I am new to linux and just
installed debian. I am having trouble to setup wifi as the firmware
is missing. I tried to follow the instructions in debian wiki. My
Network controller identified as BCM43224. Not sure how to
proceed...
2190 [20:53:58] <somiaj> !bcm43
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2192 [20:54:30] <somiaj> exa_ways:
replaced-url
2193 [20:54:58] <hassoon> ?
2194 [20:55:42] <Devastator> is dpkg on vacation? heheh
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2201 [20:59:04] <somiaj> Devastator: na, I probably got the
factoid wrong
2202 [20:59:04] <exa_ways> no i guess my brain is on vacation as i
have a hard time understanding it hehe
2203 [20:59:10] <somiaj> !wl
2204 [20:59:10] <dpkg> Broadcom's proprietary wireless LAN
driver (wl, aka broadcom-sta) supports devices based on the Broadcom
BCM4311, BCM4312, BCM4313, BCM4321, BCM4322, BCM43224, BCM43225,
BCM43227, BCM43228, BCM43142, BCM4331, BCM4352 and BCM4360 chips. To
install (amd64 and i386 only), see
replaced-url
2205 [20:59:53] <somiaj> exa_ways: do you have an internet
connection (say wired) you can use?
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2207 [21:00:36] <exa_ways> nope i use bluetooth hotspot right now
2208 [21:01:09] <somiaj> exa_ways:
replaced-url
2209 [21:01:30] <somiaj> exa_ways: in that case you only need to
install the firmware package firmware-brcm80211 from non-free and
don't need to compile the wl driver
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2211 [21:02:36] <awal1> exa_ways: also there is an unofficial
debian image containing non-free stuff; should do the job for you;
an easy way you may consider. check the following dpkg instructions
2212 [21:02:45] <awal1> !firmware
2213 [21:02:45] <dpkg> Firmware is software to operate electronic
devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux
kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace,
notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part
of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some
are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask
me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>.
replaced-url
2214 [21:02:58] <awal1> no, the following :P
2215 [21:03:26] <awal1> !firmware installer
2216 [21:03:27] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional
<firmware>, by including it within installation media or
supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See
replaced-url
2217 [21:03:57] <awal1> :D sorry, I forgot the exact factoid
2218 [21:04:35] <Kurogane> Hi, how i can create a user only see
own directoy? for example, i create /home/user/sftp/ but the user
can see / and /home/user, how i can only show /home/user/sftp/
without chrooted there is another way
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2220 [21:05:05] <awal1> dpkg: tell exa_ways about firmware images
2221 [21:05:20] <awal1> exa_ways: check dpkg private msg
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2227 [21:12:08] <n4dir> Kurogane: my guess would be the only way
was to remove read-write-exe permission for "others" from
/home/user ;
2228 [21:12:29] <n4dir> not being restrictive about what user-sftp
can or can not do.
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2230 [21:18:11] <hello_> ADMIN
2231 [21:18:26] <hello_> oops
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2251 [21:32:27] <exa_ways> thank you all. a lot of information to
understand. I did bookmark everything and try to figure out now.
have to restart however for some changes to take place. will be back
for further questions. ) thx
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2262 [21:36:06] <mimi89999> Hello
2263 [21:36:18] <mimi89999> I am trying to connect to my wifi
network.
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2265 [21:36:24] <mimi89999> The problem:
2266 [21:36:27] <mimi89999> Dec 24 21:34:16 debian kernel:
[468172.573020] wlxc4e984dd5243: authenticated
2267 [21:36:28] <mimi89999> Dec 24 21:34:21 debian kernel:
[468177.574930] wlxc4e984dd5243: aborting authentication with
bc:ee:7b:f4:42:18 by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)
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2287 [21:45:18] <pipy> hey guys i'm using a raspberry pi 3,
can i ask here for help about how to dual-boot and stuff?
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2289 [21:45:52] <firztspawn> mimi89999, google is your friend :)
Try searching for: Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING and you will find a few
things to try
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2295 [21:49:53] <Mink> How to install a package which is not in
the default version of debian? also how can I see a the list of
possible versions of a package that are available for install
2296 [21:49:54] <Mink> ?
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2300 [21:51:13] <mimi89999> Mink: apt-cache policy packagename
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2302 [21:52:02] <hexnewbie> Mink: Where is the package (from)
then? And: «apt-cache policy package» or here
«/msg judd package»
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2305 [21:52:20] <hexnewbie> Mink: Er, I mean: /msg judd v package
2306 [21:52:33] <n4dir> Mink: as long you have to ask, the answer
is simple: You don't.
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2311 [21:54:17] <Sabotender> see another great thing about debian,
and it might have something to do with the 4.8 kernel, but I am not
having video playback issues
2312 [21:54:19] <Ma_> Hi guys, could you pls tell me which ubuntu
installer you would suggest? rufus doesn't work
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2314 [21:54:39] <Sabotender> no more freezing, unresponsive mouse
pointer
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2322 [21:58:33] <Chloe> what is +l?
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2326 [21:59:33] <n4dir> looks like a plus sign and a lower l to
me.
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2328 [22:00:20] <Sabotender> huh? that depends on how it is used.
2329 [22:00:42] <Sabotender> if someone +1 your comment, its
usually a reference to Reddit or similar where people really agree
with you
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2331 [22:00:45] <awal1> Mink: if for pkg versions available in
stable branch apt-cache policy pkgname or aptitude versions pkgname;
if for all branches (stable, testing, unstable) use rmadison pkgname
(after installing devscripts pkg, which includes much more
interesting tools)
2332 [22:00:58] <Sabotender> it's like someone saying,
'I Second that!'
2333 [22:01:03] <Devastator> Ma_ this is debian, if you want
ubuntu support go to #ubuntu
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2335 [22:01:13] <Mink> Thanks :)
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2344 [22:05:12] <awal1> Anyone use openbox+tint2+virtualbox?
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2346 [22:05:48] <karabaja4> I have a VM with that setup
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2348 [22:06:12] <karabaja4> on debian
2349 [22:07:16] <awal1> karabaja4: I have a weird issue just under
openbox with virtualbox window and guest windows moving
"alone" if autohide is enabled for tint2.
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2351 [22:07:44] <awal1> but you'll have to install virtualbox
in your guest for reproduce
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2354 [22:08:38] <awal1> karabaja4: check here what's my issue
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2356 [22:08:59] <awal1> I grabed what happens in my debian VM
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2358 [22:09:23] <awal1> well, that issue is also present in my
real system
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2360 [22:09:41] <karabaja4> awal1: heh that's really weird. I
don't have tint2 on host so I can't try but looks like a
tint2 issue
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2366 [22:10:23] <awal1> karabaja4: I meant you need
openbox+virtualbox+tint2 in the VM; then you can reproduce
2367 [22:10:43] <awal1> if you won't/can't , no problem
:)
2368 [22:10:49] <karabaja4> awal1: give me a sec
2369 [22:11:01] <karabaja4> awal1: ill install vbox
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2372 [22:11:38] <awal1> and yes it's tint2 bug, but the
problem only exists under openbox and only affects virtualbox
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2374 [22:11:51] <awal1> weird issue so
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2376 [22:12:48] <awal1> I mean it doesn't happen under
fluxbox, fvwm, icewm and other wm; and other apps are not affected
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2393 [22:19:23] <allizom> Hi, I have an old Wheezy install I
correctly booted on a laptop. When the laptop ceased to work I
pulled the hard drive out and stored it. I'm now trying to boot
the drive from a usb docking station. I can boot to grub, but when
it continues booting I am presented with a message like "ALERT!
/dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxx does not exist. Dropping to a
shell"
2394 [22:20:34] <allizom> I checked the UUID by pressing e in the
grub prompt and I'm now booted into a live environment, I see
that the partition mounted at / (that contains /boot) has the right
UUID
2395 [22:20:49] <karabaja4> awal1:
replaced-url
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2397 [22:21:04] <karabaja4> awal1: it works, fullscreen isn't
affected either
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2400 [22:21:52] <somiaj> allizom: you might not have the usb
drivers in the initrd image so it is not available during that stage
of the boot
2401 [22:22:11] <awal1> karabaja4: ok, thank you for trying,
really thanks. but, please, which tint2 version you have?
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2403 [22:23:02] <karabaja4> awal1: tint2/stable,now
0.11+svn20121014-3 amd64 [installed]
2404 [22:23:04] <allizom> somiaj: hmm, interesting, what should I
then do? I haven't a IDE equipped computer anymore, so I have
to use this usb docking station
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2409 [22:25:20] <allizom> I'm currently searching about this
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2412 [22:26:08] <awal1> karabaja4: ok, me I have version
0.12.12-1. so only version from testing/unstable is buggy. I already
reported a bug about that issue; I wanted to confirm, since noby
have that combination openbox-virtualbox-tint2 in #debian-next.
thank for trying and for your time :)
2413 [22:26:28] <karabaja4> awal1: you're welcome :)
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2415 [22:26:54] <awal1> I'll have to elaborate a more
detailed new bug :)
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2421 [22:30:33] <SamSagaZ> guys i have php5 and php7 in the same
server, and after install php7 the cli was changed to version 7, can
i change it again to version 5?
2422 [22:30:41] <SamSagaZ> cant find the way to do it
2423 [22:30:51] <SamSagaZ> using alias works but i want to use
another way
2424 [22:30:54] <somiaj> SamSagaZ: most likely this is the $PATH
and /usr/local being before /usr
2425 [22:31:11] <somiaj> SamSagaZ: you can also just use a full
path, /usr/bin/php
2426 [22:31:21] <dixie7z> hey guys. i think pretty simple question
for you. when i install some software with apt-get it gets
dependencies but when i remove that package dependencies are left
for autoremove? but. i think not all dependencies are removed. am i
correct? wont it bloat the sistem after a while?
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2428 [22:31:51] <somiaj> SamSagaZ: another way is you if
/usr/bin/php is a link managed by update-alternatives, you could use
the alternative system and move/modify the /usr/local/bin/php file
installed by php7
2429 [22:32:26] <somiaj> dixie7z: it isn't perfect and there
are tools to clean things up, but for the most part it should remove
all packages
2430 [22:32:27] <n4dir> not really. imho, of course. apt-get
remove --purge (or i think a simple apt-get purge works too) can
help with that too, i think. have a quick look at the manpage of
apt-get
2431 [22:32:53] <somiaj> dixie7z: though if you happen to install
a package that is also recommended by another package you have
installed apt won't think you want it removed since it is
recomended by another package (but installed by your recent install)
2432 [22:32:54] <n4dir> there is also deborphan, but that can
remove quite a bit, if you are not cautious.
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2434 [22:33:13] <SamSagaZ> somiaj, oh
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2436 [22:33:35] <SamSagaZ> will search abt update-alternatives
2437 [22:33:37] <somiaj> SamSagaZ: but type which php (this finds
teh one you get from $PATH)
2438 [22:33:51] <somiaj> SamSagaZ: that won't work if you
have a /usr/local/bin/php though, you'll have to deal with that
manually
2439 [22:34:04] <dixie7z> thanks guys :)
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2441 [22:34:22] <SamSagaZ> ./usr/bin/php
2442 [22:34:34] <SamSagaZ> ./usr/bin/php --version show me the 7
one
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2444 [22:35:11] <n4dir> perhaps it is linked to vervion 7 ? try ls
-l /usr/bin/php*
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2446 [22:35:37] <n4dir> seem to recall that is the case for perl
and python (linked to )
2447 [22:35:44] <SamSagaZ> ./usr/bin/php ->
/etc/alternatives/php
2448 [22:35:44] <SamSagaZ> :)
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2454 [22:36:05] <SamSagaZ> looks like its using alternatives
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2456 [22:36:10] <SamSagaZ> like somiaj say
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2458 [22:36:19] <n4dir> sounds like update-alternatives is it,
like somiaj said ... :-)
2459 [22:36:33] * n4dir always too slow ...
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2465 [22:38:09] <SamSagaZ> sudo update-alternatives --install
"/usr/bin/php" "php" "/usr/bin/php5" 1
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2469 [22:38:38] <SamSagaZ> i need to logout/login to get it
working? :/
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2475 [22:40:36] <SamSagaZ> i did it!
2476 [22:40:42] <SamSagaZ> thanks somiaj
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2482 [22:42:08] <SamSagaZ> now gets running php 5.6 php7.0 and
php7.1 in the same server!
2483 [22:42:11] <SamSagaZ> :)
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2504 [22:48:56] <allizom> somiaj: how would I add the driver if I
can't boot the system?
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2518 [22:55:29] <somiaj> allizom: you might have to use a live
system and chroot into it and rebuild the initrd image
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2521 [22:56:00] <wevwe> hello there, I am getting the error
"initramfs) unable to find a live system" when I try to
boot. and I tinkered with bios following some solution advice
online. but it didnt solve. I used pendrive as windows-to-linux
installer for dual boot.
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2523 [22:56:52] <allizom> I guess I will have to find the disk I
used then to install
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