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2 [00:00:34] <lucas-arg> do we have any gpu tool to check
performance in the repos?
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53 [00:23:02] <rant> lucas-arg: performance? you mean like
transfer speed?
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55 [00:23:19] <rant> lucas-arg: iirc there was apt-spy that did
precicely that
56 [00:23:32] <rant> ,info apt-spy
57 [00:23:33] <judd> No package named 'apt-spy' was
found in stretch/amd64.
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59 [00:23:45] <lucas-arg> like unigeni
60 [00:23:52] <lucas-arg> or something like that
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63 [00:24:17] <rant> nfc what a unigeni is
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65 [00:24:58] <rant> but we had apt-spy for checking mirror
speeds and selecting a fast one, but apparently in had a bug and was
removed in jessie and it would appear hasnt been resolved
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67 [00:25:25] <rant> !apt-spy
68 [00:25:25] <dpkg> The apt-spy utility can automatically
create a list of APT data sources to
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/apt-spy.list, based on bandwidth tests. Not
part of the Debian 8 "Jessie" release due to bug #779468.
See also <sources.list>.
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95 [00:46:09] <mnuhmnuh> last i heard, apt-spy was considered
evil. uncivilized. networking types?
96 [00:47:16] <rant> must be why I liked it.. I'm a savage
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99 [00:48:05] <somiaj> in many cases deb.debian.org will pick a
good mirror
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104 [00:49:39] <mnuhmnuh> somiaj: what's the algo used to
determine "good mirror"? :-)
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108 [00:50:17] <somiaj> mostly geoip I belive, but it also knows
info about health of mirrors when rediercting.
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111 [00:50:42] <somiaj> you could find faster mirrors, but in
many cases it should find a good one
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114 [00:51:43] <lucas-arg> found something in order steam to work
in my desktop with nvidia drivers, after i installed nvidia-driver
and steam:i386 i had to install libgl1-glvnd-nvidia-glx
libgl1-nvidia-glvnd-glx both with :i386 and not
libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 as it says in the wiki
115 [00:51:47] <mnuhmnuh> i worry about using when students
crunching homework assignments might need 'em.
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117 [00:52:32] <lucas-arg> and guess what, its working really
good...
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240 [02:16:38] <numbdewd> *tumbleweed*
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285 [02:45:06] <zhoujingrui> hi
286 [02:46:55] <numbdewd> Yes. Hello. How do you do?
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288 [02:47:57] <zhoujingrui> seaching web
289 [02:48:02] <zhoujingrui> and you
290 [02:48:24] <numbdewd> Yeah, searching as well.
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292 [02:49:11] <numbdewd> Lookie what I've found:
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295 [02:54:00] <zhoujingrui> i canot join 2600
296 [02:54:16] <numbdewd> Me neither. Aging sucks, huh. I know
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305 [02:59:21] <random> hello
306 [02:59:27] <random> what is 2600?
307 [03:02:08] <jim> it's a number greater than pi?
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310 [03:03:15] <jim> curious, what has you curious about that
particular number?
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314 [03:06:02] <jim> I see it was mentioned a few minutes ago
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339 [03:11:15] <nypkiut> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: JohnDoh vutral
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353 [03:11:16] <desert`ea> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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359 [03:11:16] <kuz> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: Hobby_boy goberle
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362 [03:11:17] <lovepara> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: pacbard ca_buf
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369 [03:11:17] <ladyl> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: dudz_ crayon MoDaX
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373 [03:11:17] <mallor> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: nypkiut cronic
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376 [03:11:17] <pdhmjzwb> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
377 [03:11:17] <pdhmjzwb> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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381 [03:11:18] <kiil> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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390 [03:11:18] <T34FLy> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: argusbr Orphis
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398 [03:11:18] <T34FLy> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: Netwolf MrGeneral
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399 [03:11:18] <pdhmjzwb> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
400 [03:11:19] <extraordi> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: dysfigured kaosine
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401 [03:11:19] <mallor> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: brick TuxShells futex
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402 [03:11:19] <extraordi> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: cyberzeus rogst
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403 [03:11:19] <pdhmjzwb> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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406 [03:11:19] <pdhmjzwb> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
407 [03:11:19] <adid> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: r0bby SpacePen1
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408 [03:11:20] <adid> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: mypapit soee HotSwap
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409 [03:11:20] <ctrlalt> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: `Kevin Blade
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411 [03:11:21] <lovera> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
412 [03:11:21] <lovera> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
413 [03:11:21] <lovera> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
414 [03:11:21] <extraordi> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: Len elliot007
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437 [03:11:32] <oppbo> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
438 [03:11:32] <oppbo> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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440 [03:11:32] <oppbo> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
441 [03:11:33] <oppbo> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
442 [03:11:33] <oppbo> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
443 [03:11:33] <oppbo> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
444 [03:11:33] <oppbo> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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449 [03:11:34] <fllqieza> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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451 [03:11:35] <barbane> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: f3bruary
Mysterytrain sangy Typhon Clouder Ekho jhns Neomex Cabanossi nux
Esya _KaszpiR_ ghost43 Brian- enoch85 Ticho Skaag steveeJ delYsid
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Zorroness michaelni flipp lankanmon a777a glebihan zhoujingrui Ad
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452 [03:11:35] <metax> lol
453 [03:11:35] <barbane> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: spacerabbit dos1
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eoli3n |subz3r0| soahccc Acrisor lan_stuff bluszcz spacebison abunai
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xaero alxd austin987 nux sa-ghosts rogst fialka thalos TonyL
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455 [03:11:37] <netstri> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
456 [03:11:37] <netstri> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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459 [03:11:37] <netstri> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: techmagu1 ladyl
t3rmin LeandroLuiz fstd glebihan ryke hiya spacebison mcastillo
XSoul kingsley pirkaaw overlord_tm Skaag_ hellais_ atlas mibo abunai
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v01t knor Krennic t0aster0ven Lxrowe_ Noldorin jsdk dudz_ Junaos xcm
walnut_burl youam_ aindilis sereno fialka nighty-- luckman212
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460 [03:11:37] <netstri> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: abff kopper
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olufunmilayo pvoigt bpsecret thunderrd sysadmin_ raynold |subz3r0|
MicroCheapFx_ grossing_ Spr1ng cnu- techmagu1 Ruebezahl Dojka xcm
imadz713 bzed sereno sharky
461 [03:11:38] <netstri> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!: mallor ezra-s
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Tom012 Mazhive
462 [03:11:38] <{Azrae> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
463 [03:11:38] <{Azrae> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
464 [03:11:38] <{Azrae> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
465 [03:11:38] <{Azrae> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
466 [03:11:38] <{Azrae> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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469 [03:11:40] <fllqieza> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
470 [03:11:40] <fllqieza> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
471 [03:11:40] <fllqieza> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
472 [03:11:40] <fllqieza> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
473 [03:11:40] <fllqieza> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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476 [03:11:40] <piot> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
477 [03:11:40] <piot> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
478 [03:11:40] <piot> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
479 [03:11:40] <piot> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
480 [03:11:40] <piot> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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482 [03:11:41] <cocai> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
483 [03:11:41] <cocai> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
484 [03:11:41] <cocai> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
485 [03:11:41] <cocai> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
486 [03:11:41] <cocai> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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490 [03:11:41] <mauri> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
491 [03:11:41] <mauri> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
492 [03:11:41] <mauri> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
493 [03:11:41] <mauri> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
494 [03:11:41] <mauri> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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504 [03:11:42] <teags> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
505 [03:11:42] <teags> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
506 [03:11:42] <teags> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
507 [03:11:42] <teags> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
508 [03:11:42] <teags> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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511 [03:11:42] <rhi> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
512 [03:11:42] <rhi> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
513 [03:11:42] <rhi> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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516 [03:11:42] <storr> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
517 [03:11:42] <storr> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
518 [03:11:42] <storr> UBUNTU IS BETTER!!:
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521 [03:11:46] <Comstock> should we tell them?
522 [03:11:55] <metax> yes of course
523 [03:11:59] <cheapie> Well, that was "exciting"? :P
524 [03:11:59] <holden-> yep
525 [03:12:02] <Comstock> debian > ubuntu
526 [03:12:05] <Comstock> i said it.
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528 [03:12:08] <Arrowmaster> but it would break their hearts
529 [03:12:09] <metax> let's strike back
530 [03:12:10] <clopez> apt-get install ubuntu ?
531 [03:12:11] <matthiaskrgr> lol
532 [03:12:12] <holden-> ubuntu \in debian
533 [03:12:15] <BrainDommage> ....
534 [03:12:16] <Comstock> haha
535 [03:12:23] <tiwake> cheapie: ohi
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537 [03:12:24] <Logg> ubuntu and debian target different use
cases
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539 [03:12:28] <cheapie> o/
540 [03:12:28] * Sauvin uses both and says "you don't like
it, don't look!"
541 [03:12:31] <bitch> woo yay spam!
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547 [03:13:00] <Comstock> begun it has, the ubuntu wars.
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550 [03:13:12] <bitch> But isn't Ubuntu based on Debian?
551 [03:13:46] <metax> both are same shit actually due to systemd
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572 [03:17:29] <Tarrasquero> metax: you are very wrong
573 [03:18:07] <Tarrasquero> :P
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575 [03:18:17] <metax> of course not, but okay
576 [03:18:45] <Comstock> ubuntu is debian as windows is dos.
577 [03:18:55] <Comstock> =P
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584 [03:19:57] <metax> systemd has ruined it all, so both
don't worth using them anymore
585 [03:20:16] <Logg> #debian-offtopic. :)
586 [03:20:21] <Tarrasquero> you will see them the same, but more
stable than debian, hmmm
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589 [03:21:00] <Tarrasquero> Logg: no offtopic
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826 [04:30:08] <tacocat> something something debootstrap ubuntu
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854 [04:52:49] <mandeep> recently im getting visual artifacts on
gnome. any idea on how to diagnose?
855 [04:52:55] <metaphysician> Which desktop environment has
better SELinux support? Gnome/Xfce/Mate/Cinnamon/Lxde/KDE?
856 [04:53:05] <mandeep> for example an app will shake violently
on the monitor
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873 [05:06:18] <awal1> what I need to edit/config for disable
'bell' in Consoles when logged as root?
874 [05:07:37] <awal1> because 'set bell-style none' in
.inputrc not sufficient, just affect regular user shell sessions
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881 [05:13:02] <renzhi> is there a libcurl compiled with openssl
1.1 for debian somewhere?
882 [05:13:38] <renzhi> I'm runing debian buster, but
libcurl4 is compiled with openssl < 1.1
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1281 [08:00:09] <xochilpili> hi all
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1283 [08:00:35] <xochilpili> im using debian and i havent volume
control, how can i add it beside clock ?
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1296 [08:03:30] <darxmurf> xochilpili: right click the task bar,
panel, add new item
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1333 [08:10:17] <xochilpili> darxmurf, thanks!
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1340 [08:11:45] <darxmurf> Well it's like that on XFCE,
don't know which graphical manager you are using
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1347 [08:13:02] <JackFrost> darxmurf: That depends a bit on if
you're using a panel plugin, or volumeicon-alsa or somesuch
though.
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1561 [09:01:04] <Katharsis> I need pro tip. How to monitor what is
the reason that my VPS server is freezing sometimes (1 of 4 CPU is
100% used)? At that time Zabbix client is going down and htop
session also was freezed.
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1576 [09:04:44] <Katharsis> or, is it possible to set max CPU
usage for all processes?
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1625 [09:17:07] <Sustainer> I am in Xfce live CD. I want to start
installation but I can't find any way to start it.
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1641 [09:19:30] <Sustainer> There is no shortcut to start
installation.
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1643 [09:20:06] <gpunk> you may have the wrong image
1644 [09:20:19] <gpunk> that dont include the installer
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1647 [09:20:32] <Sustainer> gpunk: I have
debian-live-9-amd64-xfce.iso
1648 [09:20:43] <gpunk> hold on
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1650 [09:20:57] <Sustainer> Does it have the installer?
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1654 [09:21:35] <Sustainer> I have boot it via existing grub
boot=live findiso=..
1655 [09:21:44] <Sustainer> *booted it
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1659 [09:22:38] <gpunk> it should have it
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1661 [09:22:55] <Sustainer> gpunk: how to start it from CLI?
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1669 [09:24:49] <Sustainer> There is no debian-installer-launcher
command
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1672 [09:25:34] <gpunk> and "debian-installer" ?
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1674 [09:26:22] <Sustainer> gpunk: No debian-installer
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1677 [09:26:50] <Sustainer> /proc/cmdline:
BOOT_IMAGE=(loop)/live/vmlinuz-4.9.0-4-amd64 boot=live
findiso=debian-live-9.2.0-amd64-xfce.iso components quiet splash
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1680 [09:27:24] <gpunk> did you change the cmdline at boot ?
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1693 [09:29:06] <Sustainer> gpunk: I have existing grub. I booted
the iso with grub loopmount giving the above parameters. Now I am in
live session, but I can't initiate installation to disk
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1701 [09:30:07] <Sustainer> gpunk: I didn't get any boot menu
from Debian
1702 [09:30:16] <gpunk> i think you need to boot the iso's
grub and choose install instead of live
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1705 [09:30:57] <Sustainer> gpunk: yes, how to get the iso's
boot menu?
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1709 [09:31:24] <gpunk> boot off of it , dont use "your"
grub
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1714 [09:32:36] <Sustainer> Ok, I think I found it. Instead of
using the kernel in /live dir, there is a vmlinuz in /d-i dir
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1716 [09:32:42] <Sustainer> I'll invoke that
1717 [09:33:21] <gpunk> ok ...
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1719 [09:33:26] <Sustainer> Ok, logging off
1720 [09:33:31] <Sustainer> gpunk: Thanks
1721 [09:33:36] <gpunk> :)
1722 [09:33:41] <Sustainer> will be back if it doesn't work
:)
1723 [09:33:45] <Sustainer> bye bye
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1819 [09:56:42] <Agafnd> so i recently connected a USB keyboard to
my laptop. After a while it started using the system keyboard
settings (standard Dvorak) instead of the settings i had put in
place (programmer Dvorak, capslock is backspace, and a few other
settings.)
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1824 [09:57:47] <Agafnd> i rebooted, because hey, what's the
worst it could do, and now the laptop's keyboard uses the
system settings as well.
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1829 [09:59:23] <Agafnd> (i setted my settings with the MATE
keyboard preferences program.)
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1838 [10:00:35] <Agafnd> i am considering rebooting +
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1840 [10:00:49] <Agafnd> without the keyboard plugged in.
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1914 [10:18:08] <allure> guys, how can I make apache skip the
Internal Dummy Connection logging? I wish they continue to happen,
but just don't get logged. Is that possible?
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2003 [10:40:34] <bipul> Is it possible to convert or use 64 bit
.deb file into 32 bit .deb file. I am using 32 bit OS
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2009 [10:42:52] <jelly> bipul, no
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2016 [10:44:08] <jelly> bipul, if your CPU is 64-bit capable, you
can boot a 64bit kernel, enable multiarch for "amd64"
debian architecture, install and usethe 64bit .deb as usual
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2022 [10:44:57] <bipul> Thank you jelly link please
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2049 [10:50:09] <jelly> !multiarch
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2051 [10:50:23] <jelly> !lm
2052 [10:50:23] <dpkg> rumour has it, lm is "long mode"
(replaced-url
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2057 [10:51:45] <jelly> bipul, first verify "long mode"
is available. If it's not, don't bother. If it is, replace
"i386" in the example dpkg command above with
"amd64" to enable amd64 foreign arch.
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2059 [10:52:16] <bipul> Ok thanks jelly
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2061 [10:52:24] <jelly> bipul, then install
linux-image-amd64:amd64 and boot it. If you're using non-free
graphic drivers you'll have more issues.
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2063 [10:52:59] <jelly> bipul, is your CPU 64bit capable?
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2075 [10:57:38] <bipul> Jelly yes
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2078 [10:58:10] <bipul> Lscpu says 32-bit and 64-bit
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2093 [11:04:06] <bipul> Jelly getconf LONG_BIT says 32 bit
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2146 [11:25:39] <Deys> Anyone has any idea what happened to the
package libguesttfs in debian buster/testing
2147 [11:25:45] <Deys> can't find it
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2153 [11:26:50] <JyZyXEL> Deys: it's libguestfs-tools?
2154 [11:27:05] <Deys> yes JyZyXEL
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2157 [11:27:12] <Deys> that's now available
2158 [11:27:18] <Deys> that's not available
2159 [11:28:08] <jelly> bipul, I have no idea what that command is
supposed to show.
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2161 [11:28:42] <jelly> ,v libguestfs-tools
2162 [11:28:43] <judd> Package: libguestfs-tools on amd64 --
wheezy: 1:1.18.1-1+deb7u3; jessie: 1:1.28.1-1; jessie-backports:
1:1.32.7-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1:1.34.6-2; sid: 1:1.36.11-1
2163 [11:28:57] <jelly> dpkg, why is libguestfs-tools not in
testing
2164 [11:28:57] <dpkg> libguestfs-tools is not in testing for the
reasons listed in
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2169 [11:30:19] <jelly> Deys,
replaced-url
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2172 [11:31:08] <mpo> Folks, in Debian 9 with KDE: Why does
"kaccessibleapp" keep restarting, even though I stopped
it?
2173 [11:31:10] <jelly> Deys, you may find more information on its
tracker.d.o page.
replaced-url
2174 [11:31:22] <jelly> also,
2175 [11:31:25] <jelly> !debian-next
2176 [11:31:25] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
2177 [11:31:27] <iodev> I'm switching to debian testing :-)
2178 [11:31:42] <jelly> good, one less person to ask questions in
here :-)
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2189 [11:33:33] <Deys> thanks jelly
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2206 [11:42:53] <jesopo> so i umounted my /home on my running
system and tried to shrink it by 30gb using parted and I think it
messed up the partition table which I believe I fixed except for
what I assume was the boot partition (2mb free at the start of the
disk)
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2208 [11:43:40] <jesopo> so I remade a filesystemless 2mb primary
partition from 0 to 2mb, set bios_grub on it, mounted all the needed
things then chrooted into it on a rescure disk and did grub-install
and update-grub
2209 [11:43:43] <jesopo> but I'm not able to boot
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2211 [11:44:16] <jesopo> I'm also unable to see the serial
console of the server (OVH) to see if there's a helpful
"this is messed up" message
2212 [11:44:24] <jesopo> anyone got any ideas?
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2214 [11:44:39] <jesopo> I've got a 20gb / then an almost 4tb
/home and then a small swap
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2217 [11:45:00] <jesopo> they're all recognised and fsck
restored the two ext4 (/ and /home) from superblock backups
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2219 [11:45:34] <jesopo> and the boot partition must work because
when I first readded grub, there was a weird boot image in my /boot
that was put there by OVH and it decided that was the first boot
option
2220 [11:45:37] <jesopo> and that booted
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2223 [11:46:06] <jesopo> but my boot image just won't work.
it looked like the OVH image was something weird because even though
the server came up, no ports were open and :445 was
"filtered"
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2225 [11:46:42] <jesopo> so I'm figuring something is wrong
with my / or /home that aren't trying to be mounted by the
thing that does boot but when my linux image boots, it fails for
some reason
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2227 [11:47:11] <jesopo> I'm wondering if it's fstab
that's causing the issue but I've checked that and it
seems okay
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2231 [11:48:22] <jesopo> idk what information will make debugging
this easier
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2254 [11:56:27] <gpunk> leave ohv
2255 [11:56:31] <gpunk> ovh*
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2262 [11:58:18] <jesopo> gpunk: that doesn't help me right
now
2263 [11:58:25] <jesopo> I'd like to get the server booting
first :)
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2265 [11:59:02] <gpunk> "I'm also unable to see the
serial console of the server (OVH)" : contact OVH
2266 [11:59:17] <jesopo> okay, I have
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2372 [12:57:56] <Haxxa> Anyone used Openmediafault before? I was
wondering if it was built on debian i.e. can I simply ssh in and
install other packages as I please?
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2380 [12:59:39] <digdilem> Haxxa, "OpenMediaVault is the next
generation network attached storage (NAS) solution based on Debian
Linux. It contains services like SSH, (S)FTP, SMB/CIFS, AFS,
UPnP."
2381 [12:59:41] <digdilem> says google.
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2385 [13:00:16] <digdilem> suggest using their documentation, as
it's not strictly debian
2386 [13:00:25] <Haxxa> digdilem, sure but do they disable ssh I
want to use the ui on top but they have there own plugin system I am
wondering if I can use apt and install packages as I please
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2390 [13:01:07] <digdilem> Sorry to be that guy, but this is a
debian channel, not things-based-on-debian, so this isn't the
right place
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2393 [13:02:38] <Haxxa> digdilem, doesn't have there own IRC
channel though :(
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2395 [13:02:46] <JustASlacker> maybe ask #"OpenMediaVault
2396 [13:02:51] <JustASlacker> or even #OpenMediaVault
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2399 [13:03:10] <Haxxa> huh nm they do
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reason
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2541 [14:40:47] <synthmeat> are there any gotchas i need to be
weary if i'm installing multiple libssl versions on the system
(need libssl1.0.0 on stretch for a package)
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2543 [14:42:50] <FinalX> weary in one sense? you can install the
stock debian libssl-dev and libssl1.0-dev next to each other, as
well as libssl1.1 and libssl1.0.2
2544 [14:42:57] <FinalX> in what sense*
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2552 [14:49:12] <synthmeat> FinalX: don't know. breakage of
other packages maybe?
2553 [14:49:46] <FinalX> the packages depend on what they'll
depend, if they need 1.0, they'll install libssl1.0.2, and if
they need 1.1, they'll install libssl1.1
2554 [14:49:57] <FinalX> they shouldn't interfere
2555 [14:50:28] <synthmeat> FinalX: cool. thank you
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2563 [14:58:02] <jelly> jesopo, do you mean, any DIFFERENT ideas
than a couple hours ago when you last asked and got told to contact
the provider?
2564 [14:58:17] <jelly> ooh, scrollback error, sorry
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2574 [15:06:15] <maxzor_> Hello, my desktop station is stuck at
"loading initial ramdisk" right after grub2... what can I
do? liveboot and something like initramfs?
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2786 [16:26:25] <lazarus477> I am following the debian wiki guide
on setting up bridged networking between an ethernet nic and a
wireless nic. The info appears a bit dated and no longer working:
replaced-url
2787 [16:26:44] <jhutchins> Where is root's access to
Mariadb/mysql client without password documented? Setting a password
for root doesn't seem to prevent login without password.
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2791 [16:27:48] <lazarus477> jhutchins: If you are running the
commandline utils while logged in as root I do not think a password
is requested.
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2794 [16:28:59] <metax> i need to convert dmesg timestamp to
readable date format, is there way?
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2797 [16:29:44] <jhutchins> lazarus477: Running the client,
non-Debian installs require a password for root.
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2810 [16:33:59] <RJo0> Linux-image-4.9.0-4-amd64
2811 [16:34:20] <jhutchins> ,kernels
2812 [16:34:21] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.14.0-trunk-686-pae (4.14-1~exp1); sid:
4.14.0-2-686-pae (4.14.7-1); buster: 4.14.0-2-686-pae (4.14.7-1);
stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch:
4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.65-3+deb9u1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686
(4.9.65-3+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.51-2);
wheezy-backports:
2813 [16:34:22] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.96-2)
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2819 [16:37:31] <RJo0> I am installing Debian 9.3 non-free. During
installation of the base system, it asks to choose a kernel
2820 [16:37:32] <RJo0> Linux-image-4.9.0-4-amd64
2821 [16:37:32] <RJo0> and Linux-image-amd64
2822 [16:37:32] <RJo0> What is the difference of these?
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2825 [16:38:08] <RJo0> judd; I did not see either of these in the
list
2826 [16:38:10] <judd> No package named 'did' was found
in stretch/amd64.
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2835 [16:40:03] <jhutchins> RJo0: The one with the version number
installs that specific kernel. The one without is a virtual package
that will install whatever is most current, and will make upgrades
easier.
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2853 [16:45:48] <RJo0> jhutchins, sounds great, thanks.
2854 [16:45:54] <jelly> if you don't know better, pick the
one without the version thingy
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3399 [17:59:29] <jhutchins> That doesn't really explain why
root can log in with no password even if a password is manually set
for root.
3400 [17:59:39] <Pegasus_RPG> Hello. I just upgraded to Stretch
and I'm using KDE. KRDC appears to have lost my bookmarks even
though .kde/share/apps/krdc/bookmarks.xml is still there and
hasn't been modified. DOes anyone know where they are now
stored in KDE 5?
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3410 [18:00:17] <Pegasus_RPG> Also strange: the KDE Bookmark
Editor says it's using the KDE 4 platform still.
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3413 [18:00:29] <Pegasus_RPG> (While KRDC is using KDE 5)
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3475 [18:18:14] <jhutchins> lazouz:
replaced-url
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3589 [18:53:39] <jhutchins> Can someone give me a link on how to
activate a roundcube plugin from the Debian packages as opposed to
pulling it from git with composer?
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3593 [18:54:45] <somiaj> does /usr/share/doc/packagename give any
clues?
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3639 [19:06:42] <mnuhmnuh> does dpkg-reconfigure roundcube do
anything?
3640 [19:06:53] <paraxic> what packages provide arp and dig ?
3641 [19:06:56] <annadane> destroys the universe
3642 [19:07:00] <greycat> dnsutils for dig, at least
3643 [19:07:09] <greycat> net-tools for arp
3644 [19:07:17] <paraxic> ahh thanks greycat
3645 [19:07:48] <mnuhmnuh> annadane: tested it?
3646 [19:08:13] <annadane> i ask you to consult the beginning of
hitchhiker's guide
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bg, how to play in fg?
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3944 [20:15:30] <RJo0> My Debian 9.3 failed at package manager.
After testing, I found I did not have an internet connection. I
don't know how I might reestablish one at this point, so I
rebooted to try again.
3945 [20:15:30] <RJo0> The installer failed at detecting the CDROM
(I am using a USB stick). I opened a terminal and input
'mount' to see where is was mounted. It doesn't show
up. I did this on my previous attempt and saw the 'cdrom'
was mounted /dev/sdb1. So I umounted it and mounted it again and it
worked. I recreated the USB just as before, from a validated
download of d9.3 and creating the USB with Fedora Writer on a Win10
box. I don't know how to proceed from here. Any
3946 [20:15:30] <RJo0> suggestions?
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3958 [20:17:21] <mtn> RJo0: if you have linux, just cp the iso
file to the usb stick
3959 [20:17:27] <mtn> RJo0: then try again
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3966 [20:18:22] <mtn> RJo0:
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3969 [20:19:26] <lazarus477> Need the name of a good channel to
discuss the topic of linux networking. Specifically related to
ethernet and Wireless. I am want to ask about wpa_supplicant and
it's obscure parameter named br_ifname and what it's
purpose is...
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3972 [20:20:11] <mtn> lazarus477: #networking
3973 [20:20:13] <greycat> #wireless or ##networking
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3981 [20:22:14] <lazarus477> mtn: ty!
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3990 [20:25:38] <megmanx9> hi
3991 [20:25:59] <megmanx9> i need help to install
odoo_10.0.latest_all.deb
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3994 [20:27:12] <annadane> where is that from? i'd rather not
install random .deb that you find on the internet
3995 [20:27:13] <RJo0> mtn, I blew away my Linux while attempting
this installation.
3996 [20:27:17] <annadane> ,v odoo
3997 [20:27:18] <judd> No package named 'odoo' was found
in amd64.
3998 [20:27:27] <annadane> if you need, you can probably build
from source
3999 [20:27:27] <megmanx9>
replaced-url
4000 [20:27:30] <mtn> RJo0: blew away what linux?
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4002 [20:27:55] <megmanx9> judd: i down it from odoo site
4003 [20:27:56] <judd> No package named 'down' was found
in stretch/amd64.
4004 [20:28:08] <annadane> megmanx9,
replaced-url
4005 [20:28:24] <annadane> that's better than just installing
things you don't trust from the internet; it doesn't
require root privileges
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4008 [20:28:56] <megmanx9> i down it from odoo site
4009 [20:29:02] <greycat> What is odoo? What's their web
site? What system was their .deb built on? What dependencies does it
have?
4010 [20:29:16] <greycat> What error did you get when you tried to
install it?
4011 [20:29:22] <annadane> megmanx9, also, judd is just a bot i
invoked with a command
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4013 [20:29:35] <megmanx9> annadane:
replaced-url
4014 [20:29:44] <annadane> megmanx9, i saw that, what i said still
stands
4015 [20:29:52] <annadane> you shouldn't just install random
.deb files from the internet
4016 [20:30:05] <annadane> build from source if you want, as i
linked above
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4021 [20:30:15] <megmanx9>
replaced-url
4022 [20:30:30] <megmanx9> annadane:
replaced-url
4023 [20:30:38] <annadane> megmanx9, yes, i know. read what
i'm telling you
4024 [20:30:42] <megmanx9> i got it from this
4025 [20:30:50] <annadane> that doesn't mean you should trust
it
4026 [20:30:58] <greycat> megmanx9: so, what happened when you ran
"apt-get -f install" to fetch all those dependencies?
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4028 [20:31:05] <greycat> ,v node-less
4029 [20:31:06] <judd> Package: node-less on amd64 --
wheezy-backports: 1.4.2-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.4.2-1;
jessie-backports: 1.6.3~dfsg-2~bpo8+1; buster: 1.6.3~dfsg-2; sid:
1.6.3~dfsg-2; stretch: 1.6.3~dfsg-2
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4034 [20:31:59] <greycat> also, they have Debian instructions on
this page:
replaced-url
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4038 [20:32:37] <RJo0> mtn, Thanks for the link. When the USB
stick in plugged in, dmesg says usb storage device detected.
Direct-Access. The next four line are prefixed with 'sd'.
Write protect is off and no caching mode page found, cache is write
through, then sdc: sdc1 sdc2
4039 [20:32:57] <megmanx9>
replaced-url
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4041 [20:33:37] <megmanx9> new error
4042 [20:33:53] <megmanx9>
replaced-url
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4045 [20:34:38] <RJo0> mtn, I had Qubes-os on the laptop before
attempted replacing it with Debian.
4046 [20:34:57] <megmanx9> greycat:
replaced-url
4047 [20:35:12] <megmanx9> annadane:
replaced-url
4048 [20:35:17] <greycat> and what, I'm supposed to read it
FOR you?
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4050 [20:35:39] <greycat> did you try following their Debian
installation steps?
4051 [20:35:54] <megmanx9> greycat: yes i did
4052 [20:36:01] <greycat> have you installed OTHER random
third-party .deb files before and broken the infrastructure of your
system?
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4057 [20:37:21] <megmanx9> greycat: no .. just some dependency
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4060 [20:38:19] <annadane> megmanx9, from
replaced-url
4061 [20:38:19] <annadane> repositories if at all possible. The
packages in the Debian repositories are known to work well and
install properly. Only using software from the Debian repositories
is also much safer than installing from random websites which could
bundle malware and other security risks. "
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4063 [20:38:44] <annadane> and, as i'm suggesting,
replaced-url
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4075 [20:40:39] <megmanx9> annadane: what if some software are not
in Debian repository ?
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4079 [20:40:54] <RJo0> mtn, I used a different USB stick, used
Fedora write to copy. It is now booting on the laptop.
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4081 [20:41:06] <annadane> megmanx9, that's what the section
replaced-url
4082 [20:41:19] <mtn> RJo0: good deal
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4088 [20:42:26] <megmanx9> annadane: okey
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4098 [20:44:08] <RJo0> mtn, Thank you. I am configuring the disk.
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4103 [20:44:39] <jelly> megmanx9, was your huge .deb download
successful?
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4108 [20:45:01] <greycat> It certainly didn't appear
successful based on the "unexpected EOF" type errors in
his more recent pastebin.
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4111 [20:45:10] <jelly> this is rather weird.
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4113 [20:45:12] <jelly> dpkg-deb (subprocess): cannot copy archive
member from 'odoo_10.0.latest_all.deb' to decompressor
pipe: unexpected end of file or stream
4114 [20:45:12] <jelly> dpkg-deb (subprocess): decompressing
archive member: lzma error: unexpected end of input
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4119 [20:45:52] <greycat> I was guessing corrupted/truncated data.
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4128 [20:46:34] <greycat> In any case, I asked him whether he had
followed odoo's installation instructions, and he said
"Yes", but it was a blatant lie.
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4134 [20:47:16] <greycat> nothing in his pastes about wget |
apt-get add, etc.
4135 [20:47:18] <jelly> how can you tell a blatant one from mere
inattention to detail
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4138 [20:47:54] <Kobaz> so i have kernel 4.12.0-0.bpo.2-amd64
installed deb 8.9
4139 [20:47:57] <greycat> err, apt-key add
4140 [20:48:02] <Kobaz> i need to get the source and headers
4141 [20:48:05] <greycat> you know, like it said on the page that
I linked him to
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4143 [20:48:09] <Kobaz> but i'm not finding the needed
packages
4144 [20:48:19] <greycat> Kobaz: that is NOT a jessie kernel
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4146 [20:48:33] <Kobaz> right, it's pulled from a newer
release
4147 [20:48:45] <greycat> Not even a release. It's from
post-stable testing wilderness.
4148 [20:48:51] <jelly> and the newer release was called
stretch-backports ?
4149 [20:48:52] <Kobaz> seems like all the packages for 4.12 is
all gone
4150 [20:48:54] <greycat> And you're trying to use it on
OLDstable.
4151 [20:49:02] <jelly> no, bpo is not testing wilderness
4152 [20:49:13] <jelly> bpo is bpo
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4155 [20:49:49] <jelly> Kobaz, how did you manage to install that
kernel?
4156 [20:49:52] <greycat> ,kernels
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4159 [20:49:53] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.14.0-trunk-686-pae (4.14-1~exp1); sid:
4.14.0-2-686-pae (4.14.7-1); buster: 4.14.0-2-686-pae (4.14.7-1);
stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch:
4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.65-3+deb9u1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686
(4.9.65-3+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.51-2);
wheezy-backports:
4160 [20:49:54] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.96-2)
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4162 [20:50:03] <greycat> jessie-backports has only
4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686
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4166 [20:50:22] <Kobaz> i'm trying stretch-backports:
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4168 [20:50:38] <Kobaz> linux-headers-4.13.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 :
Depends: linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86 but it is not going to be
installed linux-compiler-gcc-6-x86 : Depends: gcc-6 but it is not
installable
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4170 [20:50:50] <towo`> you can't use stretch packages in
jessie
4171 [20:50:53] <jelly> Kobaz, yeah, that won't work.
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4173 [20:51:19] <jelly> Kobaz, can you use 4.9 from
jessie-backports instead?
4174 [20:51:21] <pie3> hi i would like to recursively crawling a
website having several .md files and convert and merge them into a
singel pdf file, how to do that?
4175 [20:51:33] <jelly> Kobaz, or 3.16 from jessie?
4176 [20:51:39] <Kobaz> jelly: ideally i want to get the headers
installed for 4.12 so i dont have to reboot
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4178 [20:51:51] <Kobaz> trying to get a module in
4179 [20:51:58] <jhutchins> somiaj: No readmes in the debian
packages for the plugins.
4180 [20:52:00] <Kobaz> but the packages are just gone
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4184 [20:52:10] <Kobaz> and 3.16 won't install
4185 [20:52:14] <jhutchins> mnuhmnuh: debconf only handles the
basic setup.
4186 [20:52:19] <Kobaz> i can reboot tonght, it's not the end
of the world
4187 [20:52:20] <jelly> Kobaz, those will have been built against
a gcc you can't have on jessie
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4189 [20:52:34] <jelly> just like the current 4.13 in stretch-bpo
4190 [20:52:37] <jhutchins> mnuhmnuh: If I understand the docs,
you have to edit json files and move the components to the right
location.
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4192 [20:52:50] <Kobaz> 3.16 is fine too
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4196 [20:53:09] <Kobaz> i would like to keep this on 4.x though
4197 [20:53:10] <jhutchins> mnuhmnuh: They've automated it,
but the automation uses composer and pulls from git.
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4201 [20:53:48] <jelly> Kobaz, you can keep the current kernel,
but you won't be able to install matching headers and gcc
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4209 [20:55:06] <Kobaz> i can spin up a vm and and do the build
there i suppose
4210 [20:55:09] <anticensored> what is the meaning of /dev/null/
4211 [20:55:29] <jhutchins> anticensored: 42
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4213 [20:55:32] <anticensored> i know its supposedly not a
directory but it is not a file either
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4218 [20:55:53] <greycat> anticensored: it's a file, so no
trailing .
4219 [20:55:53] <anticensored> but it has a path so if its neither
a directory or a file what is it?
4220 [20:55:55] <greycat> anticensored: it's a file, so no
trailing /
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4222 [20:56:09] <greycat> specifically it's a character
device file
4223 [20:56:21] <anticensored> okay then, if its a file how come I
can't copy it?
4224 [20:56:32] <anticensored> or overwrite it or delete it?
4225 [20:56:38] <greycat> You can. Every read from it returns EOF,
so your copy will be 0 bytes long.
4226 [20:56:43] <jelly> Kobaz, you can install stretch in a vm,
search for matching date for that stretch-backports build you like
on snapshot.debian.org, add that to repos and grab the matching
kernel and headers
4227 [20:56:46] <greycat> Every write to it succeeds and does
nothing.
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4229 [20:56:59] <anticensored> okay so its essentially an
imaginary file?
4230 [20:57:02] <greycat> You SHOULD not delete it, because that
would break programs that depend on it.
4231 [20:57:50] <jelly> Kobaz, you decide whether all that's
worth to avoid rebooting into a kernel build with jessie userspace
tools
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4233 [20:58:33] <annadane> !xy problem
4234 [20:58:34] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you
need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We
suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell
us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely
diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's
easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See
replaced-url
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4239 [20:59:28] <jhutchins> anticensored: One of the uses is to
redirect the output of commands in a script, effectively silencing
them.
4240 [20:59:47] <jelly> anticensored, it's a way to access
kernel functionality that looks like a file you can always write to,
and you can never read from.
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4243 [21:00:07] <Kobaz> overall objective is to get a kernel
module built and loaded, as soon as possible, avoiding rebooting
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4248 [21:00:11] <anticensored> okay that makes sense
4249 [21:00:22] <anticensored> so like piping to Out-Null in
powershell
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4251 [21:00:30] <jelly> yes
4252 [21:00:47] <anticensored> thanks for the help
4253 [21:01:00] <somiaj> Kobaz: any reason why the 4.9 kernel
won't work for your hardware? I missed exactly what you needed
the 4.12 kernel for?
4254 [21:01:00] <jhutchins> anticensored: Guess where windows got
that idea?
4255 [21:01:08] <Kobaz> somiaj: btrfs
4256 [21:01:15] <Kobaz> ...fixes, etc
4257 [21:01:25] <jelly> jhutchins, probably from cp/m and ms-dos
NUL:
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4260 [21:01:48] <pie3> Which are other swiss army knife like
tools/softare like pandoc is?
4261 [21:01:50] <somiaj> Kobaz: okay, unsure on the details, but
you would probably do better to compile your own kernel from source
vs using one not built for jessie.
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4264 [21:02:06] <Kobaz> somiaj: i usually do, but for this
environment i wanted purely packages
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4268 [21:02:42] <somiaj> Kobaz: you can build your own 4.12 kernel
packages using 'make deb-pkg', you can even do this on a
different machine if you didn't want to have the build tools on
the main install.
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4292 [21:13:11] <Kobaz>
replaced-url
4293 [21:13:18] <Kobaz> why is there no 2017 archives?
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4295 [21:13:50] <annadane> due to the freeze period, i presume
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4297 [21:14:09] <Kobaz> so there's been no updates to any
backports since 2016-03-13 ?
4298 [21:14:13] <Kobaz> that can't be
4299 [21:14:29] <annadane> but you're looking for backports
in snapshots
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4301 [21:14:42] <Kobaz> right
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4303 [21:14:50] <somiaj> I'm unsure what debian-backports
would be, there are various backports for different releases.
4304 [21:15:00] <somiaj> I wonder if that is the old
backports.debian.org stuff
4305 [21:15:13] <anticensored> any horny girls for sexual
roleplay? pm if interested
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4318 [21:18:08] <donofrio> somiaj, tnx - take many diffrent people
to make the world go round....
4319 [21:18:11] <Kobaz> i think just the index is messed up
4320 [21:18:17] <Kobaz> apt-get -o
Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false update
4321 [21:18:22] <Kobaz> i get packages just fine actually
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4323 [21:19:15] <somiaj> Kobaz: looking at even 2016, there
isn't much there. I am wondering if this is the old archive for
backports.debian.org which is now in the main mirrors using
wheezy-backports, stretch-backports, etc
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4327 [21:20:08] <Kobaz> yeah i suppose it could be an old archive,
not the actual curent active snapshot pool
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4333 [21:21:38] <somiaj> Kobaz: any paticular backport you are
looking for?
4334 [21:21:52] <Kobaz> my 4.12 kernel stuff
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4340 [21:23:50] <somiaj> Kobaz: just look for the package name you
want, linux-image-4.12.0-1-amd64 or something like that?
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4342 [21:24:20] <somiaj> Kobaz: again in this case if you really
need a 4.12 kernel in jessie, you should build your own, it will
just save problems in the long run.
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4344 [21:24:24] <Kobaz> yeah
4345 [21:24:26] <Kobaz> i think i got it now
4346 [21:24:31] <somiaj>
replaced-url
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4349 [21:25:01] <Kobaz> i wish i knew about snapshot years ago
4350 [21:25:03] <Kobaz> this is amazing
4351 [21:25:08] <Kobaz> would have solved all kinds of issues
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4373 [21:31:32] <zerocool> what's snapshot
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4377 [21:31:54] <greycat> !snapshots
4378 [21:31:54] <dpkg>
replaced-url
4379 [21:32:15] <zerocool> ohhh, neat!
4380 [21:32:17] <zerocool> thanks
4381 [21:32:40] <_KaszpiR_> hm, donreing if ubuntu has something
similiar?
4382 [21:32:44] <_KaszpiR_> *wondering
4383 [21:32:49] <greycat> ask #ubuntu
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4569 [22:35:28] <yeah_guy> Hello. I am trying to wipe my hard
drive and reinstall Stretch. I have the ISO on a USB stick, but when
I try to boot from the USB, I get a flashing cursor. Nothing
happens.
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4571 [22:35:56] <annadane> yeah_guy, what method did you use to
prepare the image
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4575 [22:36:54] <yeah_guy> I got the ISO from a torrent and copied
it to the USB.
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4577 [22:37:08] <annadane> yeah_guy, and how did you copy it
4578 [22:37:08] <dvs> how did you copy it?
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4581 [22:37:55] <yeah_guy> from the gui. moved from downloads to
usb.
4582 [22:38:10] <annadane> err
4583 [22:38:17] <annadane> that's a new one
4584 [22:38:35] <annadane> are you on windows or linux?
4585 [22:38:42] <yeah_guy> linux
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4589 [22:40:18] <dvs> so if you open the USB, do you see a .iso
file?
4590 [22:40:26] <yeah_guy> i've done an install from a usb on
this machine before, but nothing i do works this time.
4591 [22:40:39] <yeah_guy> yes, it is an .iso
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4593 [22:40:55] <yeah_guy> could it have something to do with the
fact that the hard drive is encrypted?
4594 [22:41:09] <greycat>
replaced-url
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4596 [22:41:17] <greycat> ^^ how to copy the ISO image to a USB
stick
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4598 [22:41:41] <dvs> in linux
4599 [22:42:09] <annadane> i'm very surprised what you did
worked before because that's not how you're supposed to do
it
4600 [22:42:20] <greycat> he said he's on Linux, so.
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4605 [22:43:14] <greycat> sometimes I feel like I'm the only
person left who has a stack of blank CDs just lying around but would
have to SCROUNGE to find a working, large-enough USB key
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4610 [22:44:38] <annadane> my computer has no cd tray. :P
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4612 [22:44:56] <qman__> I buy usb drives in bulk these days
4613 [22:45:03] <dvs> I have stacks of blank discs and about a
dozen USB drives.
4614 [22:46:16] <qman__> I also have stacks of blank disks and
rarely use them
4615 [22:46:40] <qman__> Most of my machines don't even have
optical drives anymore
4616 [22:46:46] <n4dir> blank CD's here too.
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4618 [22:46:54] <greycat> I've yet to see a PC without a CD
drive.
4619 [22:47:05] <greycat> apparently I am a caveman or something
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4621 [22:47:19] <n4dir> for starters quite a few of my PC
don't even boot from USB ...
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4624 [22:47:34] <yeah_guy> i'm on a laptop with no cd drive.
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4657 [22:58:03] <juanschwartz> I have a general question, but the
OS I'm encountering it on is debian wheezy. I have a
"RAID" controller on a motherboard of a server. The
motherboard is a Tyan S7066WGM3NR and its RAID controller is a LSI
SAS 2308. I've installed a repo from
replaced-url
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4660 [22:59:12] <petn-randall> juanschwartz: What steps have you
tried yet?
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4665 [23:00:01] <juanschwartz> i've installed pretty much
every single package the to try and locate the "RAID
card", even thought it's a MB built in, and have had no
luck
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4668 [23:00:36] <juanschwartz> no issues on my servers with Perc-i
H710s, i found the megaclisas-status package worked well
4669 [23:00:46] <petn-randall> juanschwartz: Usually there's
a CLI tool in the package, and you run a certain command and get
some output.
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4671 [23:01:12] <juanschwartz> right, wondering if this one just
isn't accessible because it's a MB built in or something
4672 [23:01:26] <petn-randall> juanschwartz: That's why
I'm asking what you tried specifically.
4673 [23:01:30] <jhutchins> yeah_guy: What you did was to copy the
iso file as a file. What you need to do is write the file to the USB
drive so that it becomes the iso9660 filesystem.
4674 [23:01:40] <juanschwartz> i installed all of the LSI megaraid
packages from that list and all cli tools said no card was found
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4677 [23:02:31] <jhutchins> juanschwartz: Are you sure there
actualy is a "raid card" and not just a SATA controller?
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4682 [23:03:48] <juanschwartz> that's what i'm wonder
jhutchins
4683 [23:03:55] <jhutchins> lspci should show something.
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4685 [23:04:07] <juanschwartz> this is the motherboard
4686 [23:04:08] <juanschwartz>
replaced-url
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4690 [23:05:01] <petn-randall> juanschwartz: What is the output of
'lspci -nn'?
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4693 [23:06:30] <jhutchins> juanschwartz: Use a pastebin
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4698 [23:08:06] <juanschwartz>
replaced-url
4699 [23:08:54] <jhutchins> juanschwartz: Are you using the SATA
ports or the SAS ports?
4700 [23:09:10] <petn-randall> my thinking, yeah.
4701 [23:09:52] <juanschwartz> There's a total of 8 drives
installed on the SAS backplane
4702 [23:10:21] <juanschwartz> I have 2 Virtual drives. A RAID6
and a RAID1. So there should be something somewhere as the whole
thing is filled up
4703 [23:11:39] <jhutchins> juanschwartz: How did you set the raid
up in the first place?
4704 [23:11:58] <juanschwartz> through the RAID configuration
during boot
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4708 [23:12:53] <juanschwartz> I had one drive that was predicted
to fail and I replaced it today. I am simply trying to monitor the
resync with the server on. I don't want to have to restart it
to verify that it's no longer degraded
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4711 [23:13:39] <jhutchins> ,pciid 8086:1d02
4712 [23:13:40] <judd> [8086:1d02] is 'C600/X79 series
chipset 6-Port SATA AHCI Controller' from 'Intel
Corporation' with kernel modules 'ahci',
'snd-hda-intel', 'ata-generic' in stretch. See
also
replaced-url
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4716 [23:13:56] <jhutchins> ,pciid 1000:0087
4717 [23:13:57] <judd> [1000:0087] is 'SAS2308 PCI-Express
Fusion-MPT SAS-2' from 'LSI Logic / Symbios Logic'
with kernel module 'mpt3sas' in stretch. See also
replaced-url
4718 [23:14:57] <jhutchins> juanschwartz: Interesting. It should
present the arrays as drives to the OS then.
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4721 [23:15:11] <juanschwartz> it does
4722 [23:15:20] <jhutchins> juanschwartz: Ok, nothing more you
need to do then.
4723 [23:15:26] <ql-500> i am running debian 9 and installed a
Brother P-touch QL-500 printer using the Brother P-touch label
printer driver found in the stretch repo. The problem is that when
to i try to print a test page i get a cups error:
"client-error-bad-request". how can i solve this problem?
4724 [23:15:52] <juanschwartz> however, it's resyncing after
a drive failure... something i noticed only because I was adding a
RAID1 backup
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4728 [23:16:16] <juanschwartz> I want to be able to run a script
on the server nightly and have it notify me if it's degraded
ever again
4729 [23:16:19] <jhutchins> juanschwartz: I don't think
you're going to find software that lets you access the
controller directly to query status.
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4732 [23:16:59] <jhutchins> juanschwartz: Yeah, that seems pretty
essential, but you'd probably need software from LSI or Intel
to do that.
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4734 [23:17:16] <jhutchins> juanschwartz: Unless there's some
sort of notification configuration in the BIOS.
4735 [23:17:37] <juanschwartz> unfortunately this is a server I
inherited and it's pretty S%#T
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4740 [23:19:16] <Mikato> hid3, i need help, i want install debian9
into usb stick from another usb stick, everything was almost done,
but after restarted system grub doesnt find property disk
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4742 [23:19:47] <Mikato> /dev/sdd2/does not exist
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4745 [23:20:22] <juanschwartz> Thank you jhutchins :)
4746 [23:20:39] <ql-500> printer-driver-ptouch 1.4.2-2+b1 printer
driver Brother P-touch label printers. The Debian 9 driver is
installed, the printer was detected and configured but the
above-mentioned problem is preventing me from printing.
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4752 [23:22:39] <jhutchins> juanschwartz: I'm seeing
management software for C600 RAID from Intel, but it's all for
Windows.
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4754 [23:23:56] <juanschwartz> the intel thing was the SATA
controller I believe
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4756 [23:24:12] <juanschwartz> when i set the raid up, it's
definitely via MegaRAID
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4764 [23:29:19] <juanschwartz> jhutchins: I rebooted it and
grabbed some images
4765 [23:29:20] <juanschwartz>
replaced-url
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4770 [23:33:01] <jagman> hi guys
4771 [23:33:11] <jagman> I have a question
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4773 [23:33:24] <Edu4rdSHL> Ask.
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4775 [23:33:36] <jagman> I use lubuntu in a netbook, if I replace
it with debian is better?
4776 [23:33:56] <jagman> is debian better working than lubuntu?
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4778 [23:34:15] <jagman> the netbook is MSI U100
4779 [23:34:45] <jagman> should I replace lubuntu to debian in
that netbook?
4780 [23:35:17] <mtn> jagman: only way to find out is one is
"better" is to try both of them and compare
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4782 [23:36:02] <jagman> has anyone compared these two OS
together?
4783 [23:36:18] <mtn> jagman: you can be the first, or try looking
on google
4784 [23:37:00] <jagman> I mean if debian has more features than
other OS I should use debian
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4786 [23:37:28] <n4dir> what kind of features?
4787 [23:37:43] <jagman> maybe better software
4788 [23:37:46] <n4dir> i would assume no, it hasn't. The
packagemanagement is top.
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4790 [23:39:11] <n4dir> search the web for: "who the bloody
hell cares about debian". That will give a good impression
about debian
4791 [23:39:35] <annadane>
replaced-url
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4794 [23:40:04] <annadane> you can install lxde like you can on
ubuntu
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4798 [23:41:17] <annadane> (debian does not have ldebian and
kdebian like ubuntu does)
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4806 [23:47:40] <lightgun> I'm a total linux newb and i
happen to be using Debian 9 on digitalocean
4807 [23:47:49] <lightgun> i need to use nslookup... is it
apt-get? and which package?
4808 [23:47:50] <lightgun> ty
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4812 [23:51:18] <dvs> lightgun, dnsutils
4813 [23:51:21] <n4dir> lightgun: you can always do:
4814 [23:51:23] <Edu4rdSHL> lightgun, net-tools
4815 [23:51:28] <mutante> lightgun: or you can use
"host" and "dig"
4816 [23:51:29] <lightgun> ty!
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4818 [23:51:47] <n4dir> apt-cache search <searchterm> ; and
often the result will give the info (if not there is also apt-file)
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4821 [23:52:27] <n4dir> in the case of nslookup a simple apt-cache
search would work ; apt-cache show dnsutils ; will show nslookup is
part of it
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