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3 [00:00:29] <jelly> "modinfo dm_mod" would prove or
disprove that, or point to other reasons why some modules fail to
work
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6 [00:01:29] <jelly> the most common reason here is
"forgot to reboot after kernel patches so existing contents of
/lib/modules/... do not match booted kernel"
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9 [00:02:37] <jelly> and both ext4 and d-m not working point in
that direction
10 [00:02:58] <Starz0r> jelly: command isn't even found
here
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13 [00:03:22] <jelly> /sbin/modinfo in case your PATH is missing
/sbin
14 [00:04:44] <Starz0r> jelly:
replaced-url
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16 [00:06:28] <jelly> Starz0r, that seems to at least match the
kernel ABI 4.17.0-3-686-pae, is dm_mod loaded? (lsmod |grep dm) Does
"modprobe dm_mod" work, if it's not?
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20 [00:08:12] <Starz0r> jelly:
replaced-url
21 [00:08:28] <jelly> as root
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23 [00:09:37] <Starz0r> jelly: nothing happens
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26 [00:10:12] <jelly> verify lsmod output, see if it loaded. If
it did not, look at the last couple lines of dmesg for a reason
27 [00:10:45] <jelly> if there's complaining of symbols,
that means the modules on disk do not match the running kernel.
Reboot to fix.
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29 [00:12:36] <jelly> if it's loaded now, kpartx might work
30 [00:12:44] <jhutchins> iirc modprobe returns nothing on
success because it is typically run by init.
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32 [00:13:29] <jelly> but if you've already figured out
ext4 is making a fuss see if _that_ module is loaded and perhaps
cannot be loaded for some reason
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35 [00:14:37] <Starz0r> jelly: I've already restart as of
now and am about to test
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55 [00:33:08] <Starz0r> jelly: yeah, everything seems to mount
and be working now
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57 [00:34:39] <jelly> so that system did in fact have a kernel
package upgrade at some point in the past
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60 [00:35:39] <jelly> anyway, if you have futher issues,
61 [00:35:41] <jelly> !debian-next
62 [00:35:42] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
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86 [00:45:02] <SPF> when I boot, I don't have any output on
tty. I tried setting grub2 to text mode and tons of different
settings, but still no output to screen.
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114 [01:01:03] <joepublic> So, at some point you have output,
then the screen turns black? Or the screen begins and remains black?
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116 [01:01:31] <BoggGod> Hey, I'm at a loss. When I try to
initiate the wireless connection via wpa_supplicant it gives me the
ioctl error, which I believe is driver related. Is it not possible
to grab the firmware directly from here?
replaced-url
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118 [01:01:36] <BoggGod> all my info:
replaced-url
119 [01:02:20] <eee21> this is my new distro based on debian:
replaced-url
120 [01:02:32] <BoggGod> Any pointers would be really
appreciated, I'm a newb in regards to fixing firmware beyond
the packages the distroy provides
121 [01:02:45] <BoggGod> and it did work with no issues under
OpenSuse
122 [01:02:54] <BoggGod> *distro
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130 [01:05:04] <joepublic> tell me about your distro eee21
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132 [01:05:43] <hyperlumic> Given that its categorized as
"pornography" and "illegal", I'd recommend
not.
133 [01:05:49] <hyperlumic> !ops
134 [01:05:50] <dpkg> Please invoke 'dpkg: ops
$problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific
problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be
contacted in the #debian-ops channel.
135 [01:06:03] <hyperlumic> dpkg: ops eee21 posting porn links
136 [01:06:04] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall:
hyperlumic complains about a problem (see above)
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139 [01:07:12] <joepublic> An illegal pornographic distribution?
140 [01:07:23] <hyperlumic> Quite potentially. I'm not going
there to find out.
141 [01:07:27] <joepublic> I wonder if Distrowatch knows.
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186 [01:29:40] <GodricArji> debian next is invite only?
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188 [01:30:06] <bites> !debian-next
189 [01:30:06] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
190 [01:30:16] <bites> GodricArji: different network.
191 [01:30:28] <GodricArji> oh
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193 [01:30:35] <GodricArji> weird
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204 [01:34:31] <jasabella> hi
205 [01:34:58] <xtort-> hi.
206 [01:35:11] <jasabella> anyone familiar with graphics cards?
:)
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208 [01:35:46] <jasabella> i'm looking to get one for a
system i intend to dualboot with windows
209 [01:36:08] <jasabella> which line is least problematic when
it comes to open source drivers?
210 [01:36:46] <BCMM> if you want the all-round most stable
support, probably intel graphics
211 [01:36:49] <jasabella> aside from intel hd
212 [01:36:51] <jasabella> :)
213 [01:36:52] <jasabella> oops!
214 [01:36:53] <BCMM> if you want a "proper" graphics
card, radeon
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216 [01:37:06] <jasabella> yeah windows is for gaming *blushes*
217 [01:37:08] <BCMM> specifically a recent-ish radeon
218 [01:37:17] <jasabella> the ryzen vega ones?
219 [01:37:43] <BCMM> i don't know much about the APUs
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221 [01:37:57] <jasabella> (not looking for top of the line, just
one that will 'last' and wont give me headaches in debian)
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223 [01:38:26] <BCMM> but basically just get anything that's
supported by the amdgpu driver
224 [01:38:54] <jasabella> prefer supporting open source too of
course :)
225 [01:38:55] <jasabella> ok
226 [01:38:58] <GodricArji> i personally use nvidia and i
don't have any issues
227 [01:39:04] <BCMM> GodricArji: with open-source drivers?
228 [01:39:14] <GodricArji> no i use properiatary
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230 [01:39:26] <GodricArji> easy to install under debian
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232 [01:40:24] <aphorise> I can only get into gdm succesfully in
some cases - I am using laest 4.18 kernels & nvidia 390.91
drivers from stretchy-backports - my screen just flickers forever
and sometimes randomly after a few minutes or hours it might
actually decide to go work - other times I battle ctrl+alt+f2 which
most times does nothing and at times I get a sense that I am
impacting it to work... issue being I cant
233 [01:40:24] <aphorise> actually to any terminal either and it
continues flickering every 20 seconds or so.,, anyone experianced
anything like this?
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235 [01:41:01] <BCMM> jasabella: in terms of supporting open
source, the amdgpu driver is actively developed by AMD staff -
they're actually doing the right thing these days
236 [01:41:13] <BCMM> (and it's part of upstream mesa/linux
kernel)
237 [01:41:23] <jasabella> cool
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239 [01:41:39] <GodricArji> aphorise, why are u using
stretch-backports with the nvidia driver?
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241 [01:41:56] <BCMM> jasabella: the only thing is that it's
improved a *lot* in recent months and years - i'm running Sid,
and i don't know what support is like in stable
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244 [01:42:42] <aphorise> GodricArji what should i use then? -
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246 [01:43:09] <GodricArji> I run from the binary but the package
in the repos is pretty up to date for stretch
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249 [01:43:38] <BCMM> but (on sid) i'm honestly surprised at
how good this is. i just click on stuff in steam and expect it to
run without any fiddling. i'm not even running any special
weird versions of any libraries or setting any environment variables
or whatever
250 [01:43:51] <jasabella> i'm not a heavy gamer so i wont
be constantly updating my driver and squeezing every ounce of
performance
251 [01:43:51] <BCMM> just a few years ago, gaming on open source
drivers took actual work
252 [01:44:16] <aphorise> GodricArji but can I have the with 4.18
kernel too? -
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255 [01:44:46] <BCMM> now, i don't think i've taken
*any* specific steps to get this working other than installing
firmware-amd-graphics
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260 [01:46:14] <BCMM> to be fair, there's been one or two
problems - AA doesn't seem to work, and HDMI audio is broken in
4.17 and 4.18 (fixed in 4.19)
261 [01:47:23] <aphorise> BCMM so yo usaying I should try 4.19 ?
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264 [01:47:53] <BCMM> should have said displayport audio,
actually
265 [01:48:05] <BCMM> aphorise: 4.19 isn't in debian yet
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268 [01:49:14] <BCMM> aphorise: if you actually need DP audio,
running an older version of 4.17, from before the regression, is an
option (not ideal from a security point of view tbh)
269 [01:49:30] <BCMM> as far as i know, HDMI audio works
270 [01:49:47] <BCMM> also i don't think this effects every
card
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272 [01:50:13] <BCMM> just thought i should mention the problems
in case my opinion of AMD sounds overly glowing
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323 [02:34:37] <GodricArji> @aphorise, i have the 4.18 kernel
most likely
324 [02:35:32] <GodricArji> i run the 4.18 kernel and the 410.79
nvidia driver from the binary
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336 [02:48:39] <spackle259> hey guys. I installed pihole in my
system and later after i uninstalled it my system wont get back to
the dynamic dhcp like it used to. I mean im used to setting up
static ip in network/interfaces but no changes have been made there
and im not sure where to make the change to fix this. I cant seem to
remove this static ip
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338 [02:50:06] <GodricArji> so ur system isn't using dhcp
and you want it to right?
339 [02:50:26] <hyperlumic> spackle259: Contents of
/etc/network/interfaces, and are there any files in
/etc/network/interfaces.d?
340 [02:50:51] <spackle259> hyperlumic: let me check. GodricArji
yeah i think so..
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342 [02:51:23] <spackle259> hyperlumic: i dont even have that
folder interfaces.d
343 [02:51:41] <GodricArji> dhcpcd eth0 -- replace eth0 with the
name of ur network i think is what u need to do. I know doing that
helped me resolve a nameserver issue i had when i was trying to
install gentoo
344 [02:52:07] <hyperlumic> GodricArji: That's not a helpful
result, as it won't persist through restarts.
345 [02:52:11] <_marshy> i made a bash script and added it to
/etc/init.d and /etc/rc.local -- i can execute it by
"<script> start" and it works-- but it's not
executing at start up. does anyone know what i'm missing?
346 [02:52:17] <hyperlumic> spackle259: And contents of
/etc/network/interfaces?
347 [02:52:24] <GodricArji> it did when i used gentoo unless
debian is different
348 [02:52:36] <hyperlumic> That wouldn't persist on Gentoo
either.
349 [02:52:37] <spackle259> you see i am getting multiple ip
under my interface. I tried removing them by using hte command ip
addr del IPADDr dev interface
350 [02:52:40] <hyperlumic> And this is not Gentoo, either way.
351 [02:52:42] <spackle259> and it keeps coming back
352 [02:52:50] <hyperlumic> spackle259: Contents of that file,
please?
353 [02:52:52] <noahmg123> Audacity is not recognizing any
recording devices. It has some output devices listed, but none are
actual the right one. When running from a console command I get an
ALSA error "unable to open slave"
354 [02:53:03] <noahmg123> As the first of a few errors*
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357 [02:53:50] <spackle259> hyperlumic: i have 4 folders, ifdown
if post down ifpreup ifup d and interfaces which just has auto lo
thats it
358 [02:54:22] <spackle259> im using a different system to chat.
other system wont connect
359 [02:55:00] <hyperlumic> spackle259: What's the name of
the interface?
360 [02:55:18] <spackle259> wlp2s0 its a wireless interface
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362 [02:55:52] <hyperlumic> How do you normally manage that
interface? Is this on a desktop or laptop that uses a graphical
environment?
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364 [02:56:01] <spackle259> when you set up pihole it asks
whether or not you want to set up static ip. I didnt pay much
attention to where exactly it makes thoes changes.
365 [02:56:15] <spackle259> hyperlumic: its a laptop. using kde
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367 [02:56:43] <hyperlumic> spackle259: Do you normally use
something in KDE to manage the interface's configuration?
368 [02:57:14] <spackle259> no not really
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370 [02:58:06] <hyperlumic> How do you normally manage this?
Wireless configuration generally involve more than just an
interfaces file entry.
371 [02:59:01] <spackle259> im not sure what you mean by manage
this normally
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643 [08:01:10] <blingrang> Hi. `chroot -- /mnt/disk modinfo ena`
Would this show kernel info from the mounted rood disk or the
"running" root disk?
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647 [08:02:15] <blingrang> I ask because it's outputting
"filename:
/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/updates/dkms/ena.ko". The
"/lib" part is confusing me, shouldn't it be
"/mnt/disk/lib"?
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657 [08:16:25] <n4dir> blingrang: i always assumed chroot would
use the kernel from the running system.
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665 [08:23:07] <nkuttler> of course it does
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711 [09:10:58] <blingrang> n4dir nkuttler , hmm. You're
right. Makes sense. Thanks.
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718 [09:21:02] <cluelessperson> how do I inform the kernel of
drive changes?
719 [09:21:05] <cluelessperson> Partition(s) 1 on /dev/sdf have
been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the
change,
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721 [09:21:09] <cluelessperson> keep getting this stupidity
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728 [09:27:12] <cluelessperson> this stuff never works
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731 [09:28:45] <cluelessperson> nothing is using the disk
732 [09:28:49] <cluelessperson> it's disable
733 [09:28:56] <cluelessperson> I zeroe it out with dd
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810 [10:27:17] <jelly> cluelessperson, the simplest thing to do
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817 [10:29:00] <jelly> otherwise you need to investigate exactly
why the disk or one of its partitions are thought to be "in
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820 [10:30:08] <discovered> Is there any torrent for Testing
release? I can't find any
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824 [10:30:50] <jelly> I don't think there are torrents for
weekly or daily build images
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826 [10:31:22] <discovered> Perhaps alfa 3 is better ? jelly?
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830 [10:40:31] <jelly> discovered, how old is it?
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834 [10:42:17] <jelly> you probably don't want a testing
image older than a month or two
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858 [11:00:38] <discovered> I downloaded the alfa 3(released on
july perhaps) from
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869 [11:08:18] <noln> discovered, it's still the testing
installer
870 [11:08:26] <noln> regardless of the 9
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872 [11:09:01] <discovered> I am downloading weekly build!
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988 [12:33:53] <discovered> there is no /etc/environment ...
right?
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1040 [13:16:54] <ikarosuusi> Hello, I'm trying to install
dependencies for pytorch, using as much of the official debian
repositories as possible...
1041 [13:17:04] <ikarosuusi> So when I ran this:
1042 [13:17:05] <ikarosuusi> $ ai libmkl-full-dev python3-cffi
1043 [13:17:10] <ikarosuusi> I ended up here:
1044 [13:17:16] <ikarosuusi> Unpacking python3-cffi (1.11.5-3) ...
1045 [13:17:16] <ikarosuusi> Errors were encountered while
processing:
1046 [13:17:16] <ikarosuusi>
/tmp/apt-dpkg-install-82cUhO/66-libomp5-7_1%3a7-6_i386.deb
1047 [13:17:18] <ikarosuusi> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned
an error code (1)
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1067 [13:26:23] <ikarosuusi> $ sudo apt --fix-broken install
1068 [13:26:39] <ikarosuusi> dpkg: error processing archive
/var/cache/apt/archives/libomp5-7_1%3a7-6_i386.deb (--unpack):
1069 [13:26:39] <dpkg> ikarosuusi: That isn't an error, post
the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin).
1070 [13:26:42] <ikarosuusi> trying to overwrite shared
'/usr/lib/llvm-7/lib/libomp-7.so.5', which is different
from other instances of package libomp5-7:i386
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1072 [13:27:03] <ikarosuusi> no that's it
1073 [13:27:24] <ikarosuusi> that's the information part
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1076 [13:28:09] <ikarosuusi>
replaced-url
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1080 [13:29:52] <ikarosuusi> sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite
/var/cache/apt/archives/libjline-java_1.0-1_all.deb
1081 [13:29:57] <ikarosuusi> sudo apt-get -f install
1082 [13:30:02] <ikarosuusi> does seem to do the trick
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1086 [13:32:38] <ikarosuusi> wow wtf this "docker" ...
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1088 [13:32:58] <ikarosuusi> their website looks horrible
1089 [13:33:04] <ikarosuusi> it's like a nightmare
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1092 [13:33:32] <ikarosuusi> it's built on an indian
graveyard that's what it is
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1107 [13:43:48] <ghormoon> hi, how impossible would be adding
somehow ramdisk as overlay over real disk (in meaning of tiering, to
propagate to the real disk, just slower)? even worse if I'd
want to do it runtime and something has open files there?
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1118 [13:53:35] <bites> ghormoon: so.... like page cache?
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1120 [13:53:40] <ghormoon> hm even remount with writeback is not
possible
1121 [13:54:02] <ghormoon> yeah, so flushing file won't be
really waiting for disk temporarily
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1125 [13:54:51] <rudi_s> eatmydata?
1126 [13:55:41] <ghormoon> would that work for an ap pthat already
runs?
1127 [13:55:49] <rudi_s> No.
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1129 [13:56:00] <ghormoon> thought so
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1131 [13:56:38] <rudi_s> ghormoon: Of course you can build
yourself something with ptrace(2) or other magic.
1132 [13:57:05] <rudi_s> Or attach with ptrace(2) and manipulate
the glibc-stubs of the program.
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1135 [13:57:32] <ghormoon> the point is I want temporarily trick
db into thinking it wrote wal logs and just sync them to disk with
delay
1136 [13:58:22] <rudi_s> Don't know any way which is
dangerous/hacky.
1137 [13:58:27] <rudi_s> *which is not
1138 [13:58:48] <ghormoon> I know all of them are
1139 [13:58:53] <ghormoon> but some are more
1140 [13:58:53] <ghormoon> :)
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1142 [13:59:27] <ghormoon> just running a db on writeback or
something like that is dangerous itself
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1154 [14:08:56] <rudi_s> Yeah.
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1221 [14:46:27] <sharp15> how do i dump the ssh public key
fingerprint to the shell so that i can actually check it on another
machine?
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1225 [14:47:32] <rudi_s> sharp15: ssh-keygen -l -f
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub (for RSA, adapt for other keys)
1226 [14:47:52] <sharp15> rudi_s: will do. ty.
1227 [14:48:03] <rudi_s> np
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1243 [15:01:12] <sharp15> is there a way to keep the wifi from
being turned off when the laptop lid is closed?
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1255 [15:05:56] <mtn> sharp15: turn off suspend on lid close in
power management
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1257 [15:06:22] <mtn> sharp15: or elsewhere in system settings
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1312 [15:33:24] <Ede|Popede> > Nearly all x86-based (IA-32)
processors still in use in personal computers are supported. This
also includes 32-bit AMD and VIA (former Cyrix) processors, and
processors like the Athlon XP and Intel P4 Xeon. However, Debian
GNU/Linux stretch will not run on 586 (Pentium) or earlier
processors.
1313 [15:33:37] <Ede|Popede> that's hardly more than
"try out and see if it starts" :(
1314 [15:34:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1423
1315 [15:34:03] <Ede|Popede> and the link to the Linux Hardware
Compatibility HOWTO is quite useless (last update: 5/2007)
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1330 [15:40:28] <joepublic> did you try it? did it start? I wonder
whether it can be compiled for an i386sx.
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1332 [15:40:46] <rudi_s> Ede|Popede: Support for really old
hardware is very difficult. - As nobody can test changes to the
kernel, it won't get much better than "try out and see if
it starts".
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1334 [15:40:51] <Ede|Popede> srsly:
replaced-url
1335 [15:41:18] <Ede|Popede> joepublic: afaik kernel support for
386 was dropped some time ago?
1336 [15:41:39] <joepublic> yeah, but what version, is the key
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1339 [15:42:39] <Ede|Popede> erm... that's years old. but
something was also this year, don't remember :/
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1345 [15:43:48] <joepublic> I am running stretch on some servers
with kernel "Linux localhost 2.6.32-042stab123.1 #1 SMP Wed Mar
22 15:21:30 MSK 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
1346 [15:44:28] <Ede|Popede> a feedback function would be nice.
look if it runs, report back some sysinfo (kind of inxi's
default output). and then: BIG DATA
1347 [15:44:42] <sharp15> is there a way to keep the machine on
the wifi while the lid is closed? kde5 keeps disconnecting the wifi
when i close the machine. or do i need to use /etc/networks for
that.
1348 [15:45:31] <Ede|Popede> stretch with 2.6 kernel? wow.
1349 [15:46:13] <hyperlumic> joepublic: You need to find a new
hosting provider.
1350 [15:47:07] <joepublic> as far as I know, 2.6.32-blahblah is
the newest openvz kernel in existence.
1351 [15:47:08] <rudi_s> sharp15: As other's have already
said, prevent that the laptop goes to sleep.
1352 [15:47:35] <rudi_s> joepublic: Wow, did anybody backport
meltdown and spectre patches for that?
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1354 [15:48:02] <hyperlumic> joepublic: OpenVZ is trash,
generally, so that's not a compelling reason to stay on an
ancient kernel.
1355 [15:48:03] <phogg> joepublic: unless they're heavily
backporting fixes that kernel is full of holes. If that's
required for openvz, stop using openvz.
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1357 [15:48:43] <joepublic> the /proc/cpuinfo does not mention
meltdown nor spectre for a xeon e5, so, no, doesn't look like
meltdown nor spectre patches
1358 [15:48:49] <phogg> sharp15: there will be a setting somewhere
that describes what to do when a "lid close" event occurs.
1359 [15:48:53] <rudi_s> Ouch ..
1360 [15:48:57] <Ede|Popede> always have to remember that openvz
is in NO WAY related to studivz *grml*
1361 [15:49:18] <joepublic> this conversation has been very
instructive to me, by the way
1362 [15:49:24] <phogg> sharp15: it could be as simple as a udev
rule, might be done via some combination of systemd and dbus, or
could be mostly on the KDE side. I don't know.
1363 [15:49:46] <hyperlumic> joepublic: Again, you need to find a
new hosting provider. You are no doubt missing YEARS of security
fixes.
1364 [15:50:59] <Ede|Popede> if software is old enough it should
be relatively safe again ;)
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1366 [15:51:18] <hyperlumic> lol wut
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1369 [15:51:27] <phogg> Ede|Popede: not really. Automated tools
learn vulnerabilities and never forget them
1370 [15:51:36] <hyperlumic> Yup.
1371 [15:51:43] <phogg> Ede|Popede: sniff version, reach in to a
bag of vulns, pull out one that works, try it
1372 [15:51:48] <phogg> repeat until you get in
1373 [15:52:05] <hyperlumic> joepublic: Ever run a vulnerability
scan on that system?
1374 [15:52:09] <Ede|Popede> damnyouatomatization.com
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1377 [15:52:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> 6hey peeps
1378 [15:52:28] <Eryn_1983_FL> what does this mean the %
1379 [15:52:30] <Eryn_1983_FL> ttrss-user | %
1380 [15:52:35] <Eryn_1983_FL> in my db user table..
1381 [15:52:46] <hyperlumic> Eryn_1983_FL: I assume you're
referring to MySQL or MariaDB.
1382 [15:52:48] <Eryn_1983_FL> i though that was from anywhere
1383 [15:52:50] <Eryn_1983_FL> maria
1384 [15:52:52] <joepublic> !enter
1385 [15:52:52] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for
punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to
follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '.
', ';', '...', '---', or
':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be
autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
1386 [15:53:13] <hyperlumic> Eryn_1983_FL: This is something that
MariaDB's documentation can answer.
1387 [15:53:26] <Eryn_1983_FL> it reads like stereo instructions
1388 [15:53:59] <hyperlumic> If you're trying to run a
database server, you'd better get used to reading
documentation.
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1390 [15:54:40] <hyperlumic> joepublic: Ever run a vulnerability
scan on that system?
1391 [15:55:05] <Eryn_1983_FL> u guys are always so harsh
1392 [15:55:11] <Eryn_1983_FL> u make little kids run away..
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1394 [15:55:38] <Eryn_1983_FL> im reading the documentation...
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1396 [15:55:56] <hyperlumic> It's not harsh, it's
reality.
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1399 [15:56:12] <hyperlumic> Though I suppose those aren't
mutually exclusive.
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1409 [16:02:27] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok so does ttrss-user | % match
ttrss-user | localhost?
1410 [16:02:36] <Eryn_1983_FL> cause it is not saying anything
about that in the manual
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1412 [16:03:05] <hyperlumic> Yes, it does.
1413 [16:03:07] <hyperlumic>
replaced-url
1414 [16:03:11] <joepublic> a host of % matches any host.
1415 [16:03:12] <hyperlumic> Took me five seconds to find that.
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1422 [16:05:07] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok preparing a log...
1423 [16:05:11] <Eryn_1983_FL> cause something not right
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1433 [16:12:14] <Eryn_1983_FL>
replaced-url
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1442 [16:16:33] <hyperlumic> That has nothing to do with the host
field.
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1445 [16:16:47] <hyperlumic> That has everything to do with the
rights granted to the user you're trying to use and the table
its trying to access.
1446 [16:17:06] <hyperlumic> And allowing that many connections
from all hosts is terrible practice, security-wise. So is
phpmyadmin.
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1522 [16:53:07] <boules> Debian does not automatically detect the
correct display size/resolution of a T430, which would in this case
be 1366x768 - roughly. What must be done to teach the OS the correct
resolution?
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1529 [16:58:52] <Tom-_> works for me on T420
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1532 [16:59:00] <scatterbrainz> morning
1533 [16:59:12] <Tom-_> boules, how do you know it's not
displaying the right resolutions?
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1539 [17:01:56] <scatterbrainz> i think i screwed this up
1540 [17:01:57] <scatterbrainz> ugh
1541 [17:02:31] <scatterbrainz> i wonder if I should purge it and
re-install it
1542 [17:02:32] <scatterbrainz> hrm
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1553 [17:08:25] <boules> It's a VM, Tom-_ , and 1366x768 is
not an option. There's 1280x800 and 1400x900 - it's that
simple.
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1557 [17:10:27] <scatterbrainz> morning
1558 [17:10:41] <joepublic> boubou, use cvt to generate modeline,
and xrandr --addmode to add it to those available
1559 [17:10:56] <joepublic> boubou, wrong name from nick
completion, sorry. meant boules
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1563 [17:13:33] <scatterbrainz> ugh this pisses me off
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1565 [17:14:10] <joepublic> since you have not mentioned what
"this" is, it can't be that important to you. imagine
how much less important to others.
1566 [17:14:27] <scatterbrainz> ?
1567 [17:14:43] <scatterbrainz> is u talking to me?
1568 [17:14:58] <mtn> heh
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1570 [17:15:21] <LtL> scatterbrainz: you've sent 9 lines to
the channel, and said nothing!
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1572 [17:15:52] * LtL hopes 'morning' isn't broken.
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1575 [17:16:38] <scatterbrainz> sorry i thought I installed sql
/maria but everytime i try to access it, i get "access denied
for root@localhost"
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1577 [17:19:02] <LtL> scatterbrainz: i can't help you,
someone here might, that said there is a #maria channel.
1578 [17:19:08] <bites> scatterbrainz: did you run
mysql_secure_installation ?
1579 [17:19:40] <scatterbrainz> i think so
1580 [17:19:52] <bites> how do you try to connect?
1581 [17:20:16] <scatterbrainz> i'm @ cmd prompt
1582 [17:20:18] <joepublic> searching for that exact string brings
up a few results explaining how to reset access such as with
--skip-grant-tables -- what happened when you tried that?
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1584 [17:20:23] <scatterbrainz> through a local/remote login
1585 [17:20:35] <scatterbrainz> nothing
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1587 [17:20:48] <bites> mysql -u root -p is the usual way.
1588 [17:21:18] <scatterbrainz> bites: that cmd => "ERRO
1698 > access denied"
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1593 [17:22:45] <scatterbrainz> mysql_safe > command not found
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1610 [17:31:48] <scatterbrainz> to install mysql should I be in
root super user or just reg?
1611 [17:32:36] <LtL> scatterbrainz: /usr/bin/mysqld_safe - should
be in mariadb-server
1612 [17:32:49] <scatterbrainz> LtL: i purged it
1613 [17:32:52] <scatterbrainz> i'm doing a re-install
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1617 [17:35:54] <jhutchins> It turns out that my upgrade to
stretch isn't locking the screen via screensaver, it's
actually logging me out. Any idea where to change that setting?
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1622 [17:38:50] <scatterbrainz> which version do I want
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1624 [17:39:32] <jhutchins> scatterbrainz: Is mysqld running? Yes,
you install, start, and stop the server as root.
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1627 [17:40:41] <jhutchins> mysqld_safe is the script that starts
the server, but you should use the init or systemd control file to
actually start it. service mysqld start or service mysql start
(depending on versions).
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1629 [17:41:26] <sharp15> i've tried turning off suspend.
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1631 [17:41:27] <jhutchins> scatterbrainz: One of the current
versions writes the root password to the log file on startup.
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1633 [17:41:55] <sharp15> the wifi still disconnects.
1634 [17:42:00] <scatterbrainz> jhutchins: its uninstalled now, i
purged mysql along with phpmyadmin, i'm starting from scratch
1635 [17:42:42] <scatterbrainz> i just need to figure out how to
get the right server version installed, but why is there a client
version too, it seems weird.
1636 [17:42:45] <ozzloy> i'm writing a deb package. i ask for
the mariadb root password. if the user enters the wrong pw,
what's the right way to re-ask the user for the pw?
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1640 [17:44:00] <ozzloy> this script works, but just re-asks the
question without saying something like "wrong pw" in the
re-asked question
1641 [17:44:03] <scatterbrainz> i wonder if its apt-get install
mysql-apt-config....
1642 [17:44:19] <jhutchins> I think I found the setting under
Power Manager.
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1644 [17:44:45] <jhutchins> scatterbrainz: Generally you use the
client to access the server.
1645 [17:45:01] <jhutchins> scatterbrainz: You should probably
read some of the mariadb documentation before you get too far.
1646 [17:45:07] <jhutchins> !mysql
1647 [17:45:07] <dpkg> well, mysql is a fast and reliable open
source relational database implementing a large subset of SQL. It is
the world's most popular open source database. To install, ask
me about <install mysql>.
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1648 [17:45:28] <jhutchins> scatterbrainz: Check out some of those
links.
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1652 [17:45:42] <jhutchins> scatterbrainz: Are you setting this up
for a lamp stack or what?
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1669 [17:48:07] <scatterbrainz> jhutchins: i'm there, but I
can't distuigish between wehthere they refer to server or
client
1670 [17:48:07] <scatterbrainz> it seems to refer to them both at
the same tiem
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1676 [17:50:08] <jhutchins> scatterbrainz: Read more, you'll
understand what functions are which component. Basically the client
is how you access the server to perform any needed operations on the
actual DBs, most of the settings are in /etc/my.cnf.
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1679 [17:50:27] <scatterbrainz> so you don't actually do
anything directly to the server
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1687 [17:51:08] <jhutchins> scatterbrainz: Mostly through the
client.
1688 [17:51:32] <jhutchins> phpmyadmin and mysql-workbench are
clients.
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1705 [17:57:55] <Tenkawa> what do you all think... with an ssd and
12 gb of ram should I just use zram on the ssd and get rid of my
swap partition completely?
1706 [17:58:26] <Tenkawa> trying to ponder options for
speed/reliability
1707 [17:59:29] <SerajewelKS> an SSD is still likely going to be
at least an order of magnitude slower than RAM
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1710 [18:00:21] <Tenkawa> right.. Its already pointed at the ssd
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1712 [18:00:32] <Tenkawa> I'm looking at moving it to ram
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1714 [18:01:01] <Tenkawa> its on a partition on the ssd currently
1715 [18:01:02] <jhutchins> Tenkawa: With 12GB of ram you
shouldn't be swapping on a regular basis, so there
shouldn't be much concern about "wear" on the drive.
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1717 [18:01:18] <Tenkawa> jhutchins: yeah thought as much
1718 [18:01:30] <jhutchins> Tenkawa: swap in ram is not something
you want to do.
1719 [18:01:36] <Tenkawa> nod
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1721 [18:01:51] <vlt> That depends on the use case. I’m
swapping sometimes with 24 GB of RAM.
1722 [18:02:05] <Tenkawa> I do a LOT of compiling though
1723 [18:02:37] <jhutchins> vlt: You are correct, it depends on
the application, but you do NOT want to try putting swap on a
ramdisk, that's just ... stupid.
1724 [18:03:10] <bites> why?
1725 [18:03:18] <jhutchins> Usually don't want more than 4G
of swap too.
1726 [18:03:19] <vlt> bites: For real?
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1728 [18:03:31] <bites> yes, for real. they said zram.
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1730 [18:03:45] <annadane> hi, for future reference when/if i get
an SSD, what are debian best practices, i've heard of the
concept of trimming and i'm not sure what else has to be done
with it compared to a hard drive
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1732 [18:04:08] <jhutchins> bites: You're taking your swap,
which is to extend your ram, out of your ram. Instead of just using
the ram, you're inserting the overhead of the ramdisk and swap
mechanism.
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1734 [18:04:30] <bites> a portion of it.
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1739 [18:05:04] <jhutchins> I think zram creates compressed space,
but it's still not a smart architecture.
1740 [18:05:49] <Tenkawa> jhutchins: yeah and it needs a lot of
horsepower behind it to utilize it I would think efficiently
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1742 [18:06:25] <rudi_s> annadane: If you use LUKS, you should
allow trimming for it. - Otherwise enabling the fstrim timer/target
is all you should need. This will regularly trim your devices.
1743 [18:06:53] <rudi_s> (TRIM = tell the storage system about
unused blocks so it can reuse the more efficiently, also very useful
for virtual machines.)
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1746 [18:07:52] <taylan> heya. trying to apt-get upgrade, the
mysql upgrade fails because it tries to use the mysql root user
without a password. how can I tell it what password to use?
1747 [18:08:15] <annadane> rudi_s, can i also use fstrim for LUKS?
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1750 [18:08:50] <rudi_s> annadane: Yes. But you have to enable it
by adding the discard option. This might allow attackers to guess
which parts of your disk you're actively using, but IMHO
that's a minor risk.
1751 [18:08:57] <rudi_s> it = TIRM
1752 [18:09:02] <rudi_s> *TRIM
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1755 [18:11:34] <taylan> meh, I've temporarily emptied the
password to do the upgrade
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1806 [18:38:04] <ozzloy>
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1831 [18:52:35] <storrgie> is it possible to kick off an
installation procedure from an already installed system? (hosting
provider does their own auto-provisioning, would prefer to do my own
install to add LUKS and other things)
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1846 [18:58:16] <annadane> storrgie, maybe you want
replaced-url
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1854 [19:00:39] <ozzloy> never mind, i found the template type
"note". seems to be the right way to do it.
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1869 [19:10:06] <storrgie> annadane, yeah this is what I want
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1896 [19:25:57] <rudi_s> storrgie: If your hoster has a rescue
system, you could boot into that and perform the install from there.
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1900 [19:26:15] <rudi_s> (Makes it often a little easier to get a
nice partition setup.)
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1909 [19:32:08] <storrgie> I don't think they have a rescue
system for their baremetal hosts (vultr)
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1911 [19:32:28] <storrgie> on their VPS line I can just install
debian from ISO, but I'm trying to use their dedicated hardware
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1913 [19:33:24] <rudi_s> Then debootstrap it is.
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1915 [19:33:52] <rudi_s> You can also resize partitions in
preparation for the installation.
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1917 [19:35:13] <annadane> can anyone proficient with openbox tell
me why this isn't activating rofi?
replaced-url
1918 [19:35:24] <annadane> the !-- is the equivalent of commenting
things out
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1920 [19:38:17] <bites> annadane: try <command>rofi -show
run</command>
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1922 [19:39:28] <annadane> thanks, i really need to just buckle
down and learn syntax
1923 [19:39:52] <bites> you may need to add the whole path to
rofi.
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1926 [19:40:41] <jhutchins> full paths are good.
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1945 [19:50:19] <annadane> well i cheated and used lxhotkey.
anyway, i'll work on it :P
1946 [19:51:05] <annadane>
replaced-url
1947 [19:51:34] <annadane> need the execute action
1948 [19:53:44] <jhutchins> n xfce on stretch, I can't choose
an image for the desktop background or for an unchanging
screensaver, nor can I browse the filesystem; it will only let me
select a folder from my $HOME.
1949 [19:54:13] <storrgie> does the version of nginx/openssl in
testing support tlsv1.3? It seems like it should but I can't
seem to get it sorted out
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1955 [19:56:44] <hyperlumic> OpenSSL does, yes.
1956 [19:57:49] <hyperlumic> As does nginx.
1957 [19:58:37] <jhutchins> It seems like the selection dialog is
broken, what package would control that? (Filing a bugreport)
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1959 [19:59:27] <jhutchins> storrgie: In apache that's
configured in the ssl blocks of Apache config.
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1971 [20:07:43] <noln> jhutchins, xfdesktop4 provides the desktop
settings window, gtk2 probably provides the file chooser
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1990 [20:24:54] <Ede|Popede> jhutchins: possibly the value for
"action"
replaced-url
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1992 [20:25:27] <Ede|Popede> oh, there's something called
github :>
1993 [20:26:03] <noln> Ede|Popede, or salsa.debian.org :)
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1998 [20:26:46] <Ede|Popede> ah right. if you don't find it
anywhere else, there might be a debian subdomain :)
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2059 [20:58:57] <crestfallen> hi I configured a new profile for my
term, on a debian machine 32-bit. I have two profiles now: how do I
toggle between them? the main point is to have 2 sizes of window.
thanks
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2061 [21:00:17] <joepublic> I am glad you configured multiple
profiles for an unspecified terminal program. You might mention
which one, as the procedure for each is slightly different and
there's not one "official" one.
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2066 [21:03:21] <crestfallen> sorry joepublic , its the default
term for debian stretch not sure of the name
2067 [21:03:33] <crestfallen> on a 32-bit
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2069 [21:04:25] <joepublic> perhaps see if your terminal program
has help -> about?
2070 [21:04:49] <crestfallen> ok this is a gnome desktop
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2075 [21:05:56] <joepublic> gnome-terminal
--profile=my-profile-name from a prompt, or file -> open terminal
-> my-profile-name
2076 [21:06:43] <crestfallen> gnome 3.22.2
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2080 [21:08:30] <crestfallen> thanks joepublic
2081 [21:08:39] <joepublic> You are kindly welcome.
2082 [21:09:22] <crestfallen> joepublic, one thing, would that
first suggestion be the most sophisticated toggle?
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2084 [21:10:03] <joepublic> I use that first selection in my
desktop startup script to open a terminal that uses tail to follow
/var/log/kern.log
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2086 [21:10:15] <joepublic> s/selection/suggestion/g
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2089 [21:10:55] <crestfallen> sorry, tail?
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2091 [21:11:58] <joepublic> tail shows you the last line(s) of a
text file.
2092 [21:12:10] <joepublic> man tail
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2094 [21:13:02] <crestfallen> thanks its too complicated I thought
if I made a second profile I could use shortcuts for a toggle. many
thanks joepublic
2095 [21:13:06] <RoyK> opposite of head ;)
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2098 [21:13:55] <noln> mind privilege escalation via a web browser
bug through function sudo() in .bash_profile
2099 [21:14:06] <noln> or irc client ofc
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2142 [21:49:57] <tharkun> Good $DAY I am doing some js thingy but
as soon as I pull the script out of the html and shove it into a js
file Firefox will cache that file and not refresh it under any
circumstances. Is that a flaw? Is that the intended behaviour? Is
there a way around it for development environments?
2143 [21:50:00] <Schmeckle> Hey guys. I'm having trouble
getting my atheros 9271 usb wifi adapter to work properly. I am kind
of a beginner. Installed the driver and the device gets reckognized
but I cannot actually connect to any network. It lists them but I
cannot connect
2144 [21:50:21] <tharkun> Schmeckle: X or headless?
2145 [21:50:46] <nkuttler> tharkun: how do you serve that file?
2146 [21:51:16] <Schmeckle> tharkun: What do you mean? Sorry,
still beginner.
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2148 [21:51:39] <Schmeckle> I did apt-get install firmware-atheros
2149 [21:51:46] <wonderer> how can i remove \n and add just
comman+space?
2150 [21:51:53] <tharkun> Using sails dev server I checked it
also, the broken file is not even on the system anymore. the .cache
has the right one and Firefox keeps complaining about a Typo. I made
2151 [21:51:55] <wonderer> so all my new lines go onto one line
only with each words sepeprated by comma
2152 [21:52:03] <nkuttler> Schmeckle: did you reboot? firmware
might only get reloaded when you reload the kernel module..
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2154 [21:52:16] <tharkun> Schmeckle: are you running
gnome/kde/xfce et al or just plain old framebuffer
2155 [21:52:52] <nkuttler> tharkun: the browser should honor the
cache headers your httpd set, that being said, ctrl f5
2156 [21:52:52] <Schmeckle> I run gnome
2157 [21:52:55] <tharkun> wonderer: depends on your $EDITOR
2158 [21:53:12] <Schmeckle> Why does it light up tho when I replug
the USB wifi adapter?
2159 [21:53:40] <Schmeckle> And Why do I see wifi networks when it
apparently shouldnt work until reboot?
2160 [21:53:50] <tharkun> Schmeckle: nkuttler gave you a nice
answer. You might as well listen to him.
2161 [21:53:56] <nkuttler> eh, sounds like you don't have the
right auth..
2162 [21:54:00] <joepublic> it lights up because plugging it in
gives you 5 volts.
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2164 [21:54:19] <tharkun> nkuttler: Will try it
2165 [21:54:20] <Schmeckle> nkuttler: Thanks, I will reboot now.
2166 [21:54:29] <Schmeckle> tharkun: You are right. brb
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2168 [21:54:44] <nkuttler> :|
2169 [21:54:56] <tharkun> nkuttler: Any way of inspecting those
within Firefox?
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2178 [21:57:24] <Wegg> has anyone had any experience with
wordgrinder? I'm very happy with it overall but the spell
checker seems to ignore any word that plural. Or has a past tense. .
.
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2182 [21:57:55] <Wegg> Share is spelled correctly but shared is
flagged as miss spelled.
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2184 [21:58:55] <joepublic> oh, the irony
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2187 [22:00:13] <Schmeckle> tharkun: Okay rebooted. Same issue.
dmesg shows me three connection tries. each time "send
auth"..., "authenticated", then "aborting
authentication with ... by local choice 3 DEAUTH_LEAVING"
2188 [22:00:21] <nkuttler> tharkun: http headers? dev tools,
network tab
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2191 [22:00:57] <Schmeckle> nkuttler: What I sent to tharkun was
meant for you, mistyped
2192 [22:01:05] <tharkun> nkuttler: looking into it now. Thanks.
This webby thingy is new to me. Specially gui browsers :(
2193 [22:01:34] <nkuttler> Schmeckle: pgrep -af NetworkManager
2194 [22:01:39] <nkuttler> Schmeckle: does that show something?
2195 [22:01:40] <hal529> I'm attempting to install an RPi
chroot on an Opensuse desktop -- using 2-stage debootstrap.
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2197 [22:01:40] <hal529> 1st stage, debootstrap:
2198 [22:01:40] <hal529> debootstrap --verbose
--include=gpgv,gpgv2,raspbian-archive-keyring
--keyring=/root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg --arch=armhf --variant=buildd
--foreign --keep-debootstrap-dir stretch $chroot $mirror
2199 [22:01:44] <hal529> execs with no apparent error. But fails
to install $chroot/debootstrap/debootstrap -- which IIUC is what
"--foreign" flag is supposed to ensure.
2200 [22:01:44] <hal529> The debootstrap pkg *IS* installed, at
$chroot/var/cache/apt/archives/debootstrap_1.0.89_all.deb. Just
doesn't seem to get unpacked/isntalled IN the chroot like all
the other pkgs.
2201 [22:01:44] <hal529> Have I missed a step/flag/etc?
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2203 [22:01:51] <Schmeckle> nkuttler: Does the fact that the wifi
interface also got named not something like wlan0 or wlan1 but
wlx64700...6f?
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2208 [22:02:08] <nkuttler> Schmeckle: that shouldn't matter
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2210 [22:02:17] <nkuttler> !tell hal529 about paste
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2214 [22:03:22] <Schmeckle> nkuttler: Yes it shows stuff. Should I
paste it here?
2215 [22:03:48] <Schmeckle> 3610 /sbin/dhclient -d -q -sf
/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-helper -pf /run/dhclient-wlp1s0.pid
-lf
/var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-5f1e9922-94a3-4cd8-bf76-edcdd03c4532-wlp1s0.lease
-cf /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-wlp1s0.conf wlp1s0
2216 [22:03:54] <nkuttler> Schmeckle: nah. sounds like your
network credentials are wrong
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2219 [22:04:43] <Schmeckle> nkuttler: I tried it with the exact
same credentials and the exact same network that I am in right at
this moment. I even set up a mobile hotspot with my phone and set a
simple PW and tried it
2220 [22:04:57] <Schmeckle> nkuttler: I will try the mobile AP
again right now.
2221 [22:06:15] <nkuttler> Schmeckle: nmcli --version
2222 [22:06:19] <Schmeckle> nkuttler: Propably dumb question, but
can this even work when I already have an established wifi
connection on the same machine using the internal wifi adapter?
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2225 [22:06:40] <nkuttler> Schmeckle: never tried that, but i
don't see why not
2226 [22:06:46] <Schmeckle> nmcli tool, version 1.14.4
2227 [22:06:49] <nkuttler> but i know jack all about wireless
networks
2228 [22:06:56] <nkuttler> ,v network-manager
2229 [22:06:57] <judd> Package: network-manager on amd64 --
wheezy: 0.9.4.0-10; jessie: 0.9.10.0-7; stretch: 1.6.2-3+deb9u2;
stretch-backports: 1.14.4-2~bpo9+1; buster: 1.14.4-3; sid: 1.14.4-3
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2231 [22:07:11] <nkuttler> Schmeckle: apt-cache policy
network-manager
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2234 [22:07:57] <Schmeckle> Installed: 1.14.4-3
2235 [22:07:57] <Schmeckle> Candidate: 1.14.4-3
2236 [22:07:57] <Schmeckle> Version table:
2237 [22:07:58] <Schmeckle> *** 1.14.4-3 500
2238 [22:08:00] <Schmeckle> 500
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2242 [22:08:12] <nkuttler> !tell Schmeckle about paste
2243 [22:08:24] <nkuttler> !pureos
2244 [22:08:25] <dpkg> PureOS and PureOSlight are French GNU/Linux
live CD distributions, based on Debian's <testing>
branch.
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2246 [22:08:40] <nkuttler> Schmeckle: ask pureos support..
2247 [22:09:03] <Schmeckle> Okay I will. Thank you for your time
anyways! :-)
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2255 [22:10:26] <hal529> I've a question about using chroot +
debootstrap:
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2258 [22:11:10] <tharkun> hal529: opensuse!=debian
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2268 [22:12:43] <hal529> tharkun I'm installing a debian
based distro using debootstrap
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2271 [22:13:31] <tharkun> first you need to run debootstrap on
suse. Which seems to be the place you are stuck now. Sorry I ditched
Suse linux some time ago.
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2276 [22:15:51] <hal529> Running it isn't the problem. The
fact that debootstrap, a debian script, isn't doing what it
should be doing, namely "A copy of debootstrap sufficient for
completing the bootstrap process will be installed as
/debootstrap/debootstrap in the target filesystem." when the
'--foreign' flag is defined, is.
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2286 [22:20:48] <tharkun> hal529: Really debian is not debian
based. You should know by now that the devil is in the details. A
bash script poorly ported or a dependency poorly ported would make
it useless. Common you know better.
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2306 [22:36:01] <pakman_no> Hi, I recently installed Debian
(buster) to test the new Gnome, and I'm experiencing some
graphical issues with miniatures of desktops in overview mode and
when opening new windows. Does anyone know of a fix for this?
I'm on a dell xps13 with intel integrated graphics and enabled
non-free repos.
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2313 [22:38:24] <annadane> !debian-next
2314 [22:38:24] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
2315 [22:38:26] <annadane> pakman_no, ^
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2320 [22:39:54] <pakman_no> you're right, thanks
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2340 [22:50:02] <dead> Quick question..I'm trying to install
debian from the 9.6.0 "live" cinnamon image. There
doesn't appear to be the debian-installer or any installation
related software on this image?
2341 [22:50:29] <dead> Is it no possible to install from the live
image anymore?
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2349 [22:54:11] <InvisibleRasta> heya, from waht repo i can fin
dthe pantheon DE packages?
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2357 [22:59:21] <noln> dead, check the boot menu, before linux is
booted
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2376 [23:19:58] <dead> yeah i made the boot image...ok so
it's not supported anymore according to this:
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2377 [23:19:59] <judd> Bug
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2378 [23:20:11] <dead> thanks
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2395 [23:32:40] <noln> dead, that page is about the installer
inside Xorg (after linux was booted), the installer should still be
in the boot menu. It certainly is in Debian live XFCE's iso,
I'd expect it from cinnamon as well
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2407 [23:39:06] <jhutchins> I know installing from live has been
available but not recommended for several releases. No idea if
that's changed.
2408 [23:39:28] <jhutchins> 1PANTHEON
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2410 [23:39:38] <jhutchins> !pantheon
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2435 [23:59:24] <servo> Hello, how can i download and view the
strlen.c source code in debian? i downloaded the glibc-source
package but i still can't find where it is
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2437 [23:59:42] <servo> I have been googling this over 20 mins and
I still can't figure out where it is on my actual linux system
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