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19[00:09:53] <akk> Hi. Is there a package that will get me the
latest kernel of a particular type (e.g. -686-pae)?
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20[00:10:22] <akk> I'm forever discovering that I'm
way behind on kernel version because I haven't explicitly
installed linux-image-biggernum.
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21[00:10:30] <petn-randall> akk: Usually
'linux-image-<architecture>'.
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23[00:10:43] <jelly> akk: it's just linux-image-686-pae
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24[00:10:45] <petn-randall> akk: If you're running jessie,
you should have 3.16.
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26[00:10:51] <petn-randall> ,kernels
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27[00:10:52] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11-1~exp2); sid: 4.9.0-3-686
(4.9.25-1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.25-1); jessie-backports:
4.9.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.9.18-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.43-2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.88-1)
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29[00:11:23] <akk> I have linux-image-686-pae marked as
installed, but my most recent kernel seems to be 3.2.0-4 (on
jessie).
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31[00:11:39] <akk> While aptitude search linux-image says there
are quite a few newer versions available.
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32[00:11:42] <jelly> akk: dpkg -l linux-image-686-pae | tail -n
1
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33[00:12:19] <jelly> oh, for jessie -pae was dropped from the
abi name.
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34[00:12:29] <jelly> akk: so it's just linux-image-686 now
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38[00:13:11] <jelly> no, sorry, that's after jessie.
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39[00:13:26] <jelly> ,v linux-image-686-pae --arch i386
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40[00:13:27] <judd> Package: linux-image-686-pae on i386 --
wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63;
jessie-backports: 4.9+79~bpo8+1; sid: 4.9+80; stretch: 4.9+80
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42[00:14:08] <AlexLikeRock> im
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43[00:14:08] <jelly> akk: so which version of
linux-image-686-pae do you have installed?
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44[00:14:20] <AlexLikeRock> 4.9.0-3-686
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46[00:14:25] <akk> I have a vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-686-pae in /boot
but I have no initrd to go with it, so when I tried to boot into it
I got sadness.
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47[00:14:38] <akk> 3.16+63
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49[00:14:46] <akk> Maybe I need to reinstall.
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50[00:15:08] * akk tries that
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51[00:15:20] <jelly> akk: for starters, do a dpkg-reconfigure
linux-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae
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55[00:16:19] <akk> Ah, apt-get install --reinstall did put an
initrd there. Maybe it was an install glitch.
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62[00:18:43] <AlexPortable> Any way I can get a list of
installed packages and compare them with the default installation? I
want to know what was installed over the years
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67[00:20:48] <akk> Thanks, jelly and all. After apt-get install
--reinstall and dpkg-reconfigure, I have 3.16 booting.
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69[00:20:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> AlexPortable, dpkg
--get-selections
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70[00:21:36] <AlexPortable> Eduard_Munteanu: any way I can
exclude the dependencies?
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71[00:21:48] <jelly> !aptitude clone
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72[00:21:48] <dpkg> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude
(or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search
--disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on
the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install <
package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves
information about "automatically installed" packages that
other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to
backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
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74[00:22:08] <jelly> AlexPortable: ^ just that first aptitude
command
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78[00:24:08] <AlexPortable> i never installed bash myself
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81[00:27:13] <Eduard_Munteanu> bash is probably in the basic
set of packages normally installed by the Debian installer
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83[00:27:46] <AlexPortable> Can I exclude that?
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87[00:28:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm, you may be able to exclude
packages marked as essential, but not sure.
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105[00:43:59] <dogui> I run awesomewm and have keybindings to
change th ebrightness/volume, how can I a notification with the
brightness level on each change? I mean something with a bar like
Ubuntu has, not just calling notify-send on each press, which is
easy to do
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160[01:09:10] <cerebro> is there a stretch/v9 live cd available
atm?
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162[01:09:30] <pavukilla> i'd like to install pavuk,
however i can't find it on the repositories past sid for
debian, should i enable sid repos or what to do
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164[01:09:53] <pavukilla> very useful program, dont' know
why it was discontinued
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165[01:09:57] <pavukilla> don't know where i can find the
source either
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166[01:10:26] <Brigo> pavukilla, you can get the sources from
the debian repositories.
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167[01:10:28] <dvs> ,v pavuk
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168[01:10:29] <judd> Package: pavuk on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.9.35-2.3; stretch: 0.9.35-6; sid: 0.9.35-6
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169[01:10:41] <dvs> heh, it's just not in jessie
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170[01:11:12] <cerebro>
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171[01:11:29] <Brigo> pavukilla, i would try a simple sid
backport
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172[01:11:31] <Brigo> !ssb
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173[01:11:32] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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174[01:12:00] <Brigo> checkbackport pavuk
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175[01:12:06] <Brigo> ,checkbackport pavuk
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176[01:12:10] <judd> Backporting package pavuk in
sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: libsocks4 [linux-any].
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177[01:12:17] <Brigo> ,checkbackport libsocks4
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178[01:12:18] <judd> Backporting package libsocks4 in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
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180[01:12:35] <Brigo> you will have to backport libsocks4 first
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181[01:12:51] <pavukilla> This package has "Build-Depends:
libsocks4" while socks4-server needs a new maintainer, see O
#485646.
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182[01:12:53] <judd> Bug
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183[01:14:03] <Brigo> very all bug.
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184[01:14:09] <Brigo> old, sorry.
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185[01:14:40] <pavukilla> so do i have a hope or do i need to
downgrade to sid to use pavuk
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187[01:16:35] <pavukilla> ubuntu still maintains it, can i use
that
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189[01:16:54] <pavukilla> or do i need an ubuntu partition to
use this program
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192[01:17:36] <pavukilla>
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194[01:17:42] <Brigo> pavukilla, i would try the ssb
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197[01:18:22] <pavukilla> how do i go about doing that, sorry i
understand what it means just don't know how to do it
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198[01:18:39] <Brigo> !ssb
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199[01:18:39] <pavukilla> it's useful enough i'd
switch to ubuntu over it, & the thought makes me shudder
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200[01:18:40] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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202[01:19:26] <Brigo> pavukilla, basically you have the get the
package sources and compile them in wheezy, with wheezy libraries
and tools.
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204[01:20:07] <pavukilla> i'm running jessie though
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205[01:20:22] <pavukilla> virtually you mean?
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206[01:20:24] <pavukilla> sorry
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207[01:21:35] <pavukilla> can i just follow this
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208[01:21:36] <pavukilla>
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210[01:22:09] <dvs> pavukilla, there is no backport for that
package
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211[01:22:33] <pavukilla> thank you
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213[01:23:59] <Brigo> pavukilla, sorry, is too late here:
s/wheezy/jessie/
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214[01:25:42] <pavukilla> gotcha, so.. i'm not too sure how
to compile or do any of this, anyone available to help
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216[01:25:57] <pavukilla> i understand the process but am not
too good at it
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217[01:26:50] <pavukilla> i can try to figure it out otherwise
and ask when i hit snags?
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218[01:27:02] <pavukilla> !uupdate
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219[01:27:03] <dpkg> uupdate (in the <devscripts> package)
upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if
the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get
source foo; wget -nd
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220[01:27:33] <pavukilla> ..let me open a private chat sorry
y'all
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225[01:29:38] <Brigo> pavukilla, it is almost automatic, just do
as dpkg tells in the message:
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226[01:29:40] <Brigo> !ssb
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227[01:29:40] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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230[01:30:27] <Brigo> aptitude build-dep packagename will build
the dependencies and apt-get -b source packagename will build the
package itself.
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232[01:30:41] <Brigo> then you just have to install them.
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233[01:31:53] <Brigo> pavukilla, and i have to go to sleep,
sorry and good luck.
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234[01:32:10] <pavukilla> thanks so much
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237[01:33:42] <pavukilla> how do i enable debian-backports, when
i ask dpkg about bdo it doesn't help, just add a line to
sources.list?
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238[01:33:52] <uxfi> hello pavukilla
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241[01:34:25] <pavukilla> nvm i got it
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249[01:39:03] <pavukilla> ran into a snag
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250[01:39:03] <pavukilla>
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251[01:39:10] <pavukilla> hey uxfi
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254[01:39:39] <pavukilla> same as the bug from 6 years ago i
think?
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257[01:41:04] <pavukilla> sorry just read brigo told me to
backport libsocks4 first
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258[01:41:06] <pavukilla> lemme try that
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269[01:45:09] <pavukilla> ,checkbackport libsocks4
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270[01:45:10] <judd> Backporting package libsocks4 in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
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275[01:47:01] <pavukilla> ok hit another snag
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276[01:47:04] <pavukilla>
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277[01:47:40] <pavukilla> i added the backports page as per the
instructions but sid doesn't have amd64 i think?
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278[01:47:51] <cafuego> bad internode mirror. bad!
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279[01:48:00] <pavukilla> following this
replaced-url
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280[01:48:17] <pavukilla> could be totally off-base but how to
fix?
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281[01:48:19] <cafuego> pavukilla: Could just be the mirror,
tbh.
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282[01:48:25] <pavukilla> try a different one then?
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283[01:48:35] <cafuego> Just to be sure.
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284[01:48:46] <cafuego> That one's run by my ISP and I find
it out of sync fairly often.
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286[01:49:39] <pavukilla> same issue
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292[01:52:36] <AlexLikeRock> pavukilla , change you repositories
to other country
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298[01:55:39] <pavukilla> the issue is with deb.debian.org
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300[01:56:14] <pavukilla> us.debian.org seems to work for the
rest of them
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301[01:56:32] <pavukilla> but the backports i'm adding
manually
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302[01:56:47] <pavukilla> deb
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303[01:56:58] <pavukilla> but deb
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305[01:57:14] <pavukilla> i don't know where to find a list
of mirrors
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306[01:57:17] <pavukilla> for those
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313[01:59:36] <cafuego> So, er, where are you seeing that you
should add "debian-backports" ?
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316[02:00:17] <cafuego> It's the name of a mailing list,
not a directory on a mirror server.
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318[02:00:27] <pavukilla> ok, misunderstood dpkg
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319[02:00:34] <pavukilla> thank you
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320[02:00:50] <cafuego> If you specify the distro
(jessie/wheezy/whatvs) it ought to all work as advertised.
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324[02:01:21] <pavukilla> that indeed worked
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326[02:01:31] <pavukilla> sorry i'm an idiot i guess
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327[02:01:44] <cafuego> It's easy, not enough coffee ;-)
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328[02:01:48] <cafuego> early, even
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330[02:02:06] <pavukilla> also first time ever doing this and
i'm only somewhat familiar with the command line
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331[02:03:40] <AlexLikeRock> fine , this its my BUG , my
contribution
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333[02:03:56] <cafuego> No need to apologise, we've all
done far sillier things :-)
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334[02:03:59] <pavukilla> ,checkbackport libsocks4
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335[02:04:00] <judd> Backporting package libsocks4 in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
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336[02:04:19] <pavukilla> so that means there should be a
backport right
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337[02:04:46] <pavukilla>
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338[02:04:48] <cafuego> pavukilla: No, that just means that
it's possible to create a backport
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339[02:04:56] <pavukilla> oh
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340[02:05:09] <pavukilla> so i have to manually backport that
too, correct?
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341[02:05:27] <cafuego> pavukilla: So if you grab the libsocks4
source package from sid, you can build a backport on jessie with
available jessie packages.
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342[02:05:35] <pavukilla> ok great
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343[02:05:37] <pavukilla> thank you
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344[02:05:44] <pavukilla> i should be good from here
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345[02:05:54] <cafuego> good luck, we're all counting on
you
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347[02:06:25] <pavukilla> ;)
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349[02:06:34] <tfgbd_znc> How do I get the kernel headers for my
android kernel?
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350[02:06:46] <tfgbd_znc> Do I need to compile a whole kernel
just for that?
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351[02:07:05] <pavukilla> pavuk is so useful, if i knew how to
maintain it for jessie i would
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353[02:07:10] <pavukilla> great tool
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354[02:08:00] <AlexLikeRock> I hope they close it as always,
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355[02:08:01] <AlexLikeRock> Saying that it is not valid, it is
not relevant,
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356[02:08:01] <AlexLikeRock> Or that I go to another place to
report it,
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357[02:08:01] <AlexLikeRock> Because as always, when they freeze
a version of DEBIAN.
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358[02:08:01] <AlexLikeRock> Always try to close all BUGS
arbitrarily.
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361[02:08:07] <tfgbd_znc> I'm using jessie in Linux Deploy
with an Android kernel so I can't use the kernel headers from
Debian.
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363[02:09:51] <tfgbd_znc> At least I don't think.
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364[02:10:02] <tfgbd_znc> I need them for VMWare.
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374[02:18:08] <pavukilla> ok, libsocks4 is successfully
installed, pavuk still not installing correctly
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375[02:18:27] <pavukilla>
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377[02:18:46] <pavukilla> my gut says q
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378[02:19:04] <pavukilla> don't want to wreck my computer
messing with a bunch of old packages, what did i do wrong
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393[02:27:59] <pavukilla> no help? :( don't want to quit
now, so close for a noob like myself
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395[02:29:28] <dvs> So close? You just added the backports repo
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398[02:31:04] <pavukilla> sorry i also backported libsocks4
& successfully installed it
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399[02:31:33] <pavukilla> maybe it feels like nothing but i
thought that would do it as per brigo
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400[02:31:52] <dvs> <Brigo> aptitude build-dep packagename
will build the dependencies and apt-get -b source packagename will
build the package itself.
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402[02:33:04] <pavukilla> that's what i ran
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403[02:33:34] <pavukilla> first line: aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep pavuk; apt-get -b source
pavuk;
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407[02:36:20] <pavukilla> it seems it's not acting as
supposed to but i don't know why or how to fix it
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409[02:38:01] <dirac1> Hello anyone here have mounted a OpenVPN
server?
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410[02:38:34] <dvs> pavukilla, I've never does this before
but I'd try: aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential;
aptitude -t sid build-dep pavuk; apt-get -t sid -b source pavuk
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411[02:38:50] <petn-randall> dirac1: It's better to ask
your real question.
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412[02:39:28] <dirac1> I want to mount one, but i found two
alternatives, using OpenVPN-AS and terminal-only deployment.
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414[02:40:08] <pavukilla> thank you dvs, basically The value
'sid' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a
release is not available in the sources
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415[02:40:16] <dirac1> Which one should i choose?.
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416[02:40:25] <Yojimbo> Hey guys. Sorry if this was asked
before. Im new to debian, and i want to install the most current
firefox. How is this commonly done in Debian. I'm using Debian
Jesse
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417[02:40:28] <petn-randall> dirac1: What do you exactly mean
with 'mount one'? You usually mount filesystems, and
install software.
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418[02:40:38] <petn-randall> !mozilla
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419[02:40:38] <dpkg> Mozilla Application Suite (originally
Mozilla) is an unmaintained set of Internet-oriented applications,
succeeded by SeaMonkey. The <Mozilla Foundation> is focusing
on Firefox and Thunderbird development. See also <seamonkey>,
<firefox>, <thunderbird>.
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420[02:40:40] <dirac1> Install the software.
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421[02:41:03] <petn-randall> !mozilla.debian.net
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422[02:41:03] <dirac1> And make it usable for two or three
devices access the VPN.
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423[02:41:03] <dpkg> For stable releases, newer versions of
Firefox, Icedove and Iceape can be found at
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424[02:41:10] <petn-randall> Yojimbo: ^^^
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425[02:41:19] <Yojimbo> awesome! Thanks dpkg
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426[02:41:22] <Yojimbo> and petn-randall
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430[02:42:08] <petn-randall> dirac1: The usual approach is to
install the package openvpn and configure it.
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434[02:42:41] <dirac1> Not using the OpenVPN-AS?
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440[02:45:56] <dirac1> I found thisreplaced-url
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445[02:46:19] <dirac1> It'll be my main guide..
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448[02:49:27] <Yojimbo> oh wow. it works. its running 52.1 now
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449[02:49:39] <Yojimbo> that was super quick and painless.
Thanks guys :)
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452[02:52:58] <uxfi> hey Yojimbo
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454[02:53:22] <petn-randall> dirac1: That should work.
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455[02:53:57] <dirac1> Will be a great way to understand the
protocol aswell.
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462[02:58:28] <Devastator> what is the name of debian stable
image with kernel from backports? kmuto?
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463[02:59:32] <dvs> Devastator, yeah, but I think he stopped
working on it since wheezy
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464[02:59:39] <petn-randall> Devastator: kmuto.jp used to build
them, but ... what dvs said.
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466[03:00:14] <dvs> darn it, kenny!
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468[03:01:10] <Devastator> dvs, petn-randall I have a friend
that has a Ryzen and he is trying all kinds of linux distros to make
it work properly, I suggested debian, but he needs at least kernel
4.10, what are his options?
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470[03:01:43] <dvs> Not even stretch has a 4.10 kernel
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471[03:01:54] <Devastator> ,kernels
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472[03:01:55] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11-1~exp2); sid: 4.9.0-3-686
(4.9.25-1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.25-1); jessie-backports:
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(3.16.43-2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
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477[03:02:57] <Devastator> dvs maybe 4.9 is enough.. but as
kmuto isn't building it anymore, what are the options?
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479[03:04:43] <dvs> Devastator, stretch installer?
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483[03:05:20] <Devastator> dvs maybe, thank you!
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487[03:08:56] <petn-randall> Devastator: Why not just build
yourself?
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488[03:09:14] <petn-randall> Devastator: Most distros (including
Debian) support building/install your own kernel.
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489[03:09:41] <petn-randall> Devastator: Just checkout the
source from kernel.org, configure it, run 'make deb-pkg'
and install the resulting package.
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490[03:10:02] <Devastator> petn-randall it is an option, but as
it is not for me I can only suggest it to him
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491[03:11:15] <uxfi> hi petn-randall !
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492[03:12:16] <AlexPortable> Why did debian choose to use
system.d and why are some people completely against it?
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493[03:12:44] <petn-randall> !why systemd
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494[03:12:44] <dpkg> a tired argument. Start by reading
rra's excellent analysis at
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495[03:12:50] <petn-randall> AlexPortable: ^^^
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528[03:51:54] <AlexPortable> How about resolved, is it also
there ?
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606[04:57:57] <veek> how do i install apt-get install
openjdk-8-jre openjdk-8-jre-headless
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607[04:58:13] <veek> i get openjdk-8-jre-headless : Depends:
ca-certificates-java but it is not going to be installed E: Unable
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634[05:15:45] <mi11k1> im trying to setup ipsec client as per
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636[05:16:34] <mi11k1> just enter those lines in the console?
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639[05:17:57] <Yojimbo> hey guys. I have a i7 processor, and im
running Jessie. I installed steam following
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641[05:18:29] <mi11k1> Yojimbo, probably not
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646[05:18:59] <Yojimbo> i guess i could just try it and see, huh
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647[05:19:10] <mi11k1> you should have done your graphics first
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648[05:19:21] <Yojimbo> well i actually did that the first time
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649[05:19:26] <Yojimbo> and after i installed steam
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650[05:19:34] <Yojimbo> it kernel paniced after restart
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651[05:19:39] <mi11k1> yah, thats what i do, just go for the
gusto
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652[05:19:42] <Yojimbo> so i reinstalled and im trying it again
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653[05:19:49] <Yojimbo> this time the other way. haha
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654[05:20:20] <uxfi> Hi debian freinds
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655[05:20:22] <mi11k1> yah, i find every system has its little
quirks with grapohics and what not
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656[05:20:24] <uxfi> :)
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658[05:20:31] <Yojimbo> yeah
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659[05:20:34] <Yojimbo> hi uxfi
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660[05:20:37] <uxfi> hi mi11k1
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661[05:20:39] <uxfi> hi Yojimbo
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662[05:20:40] <uxfi> how u doing
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663[05:20:46] <mi11k1> i have an old legacy nvidia, and its a
pain
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664[05:20:56] <Yojimbo> uxfi: doing good. trying to setup a
debian gaming rig
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665[05:21:00] <mi11k1> what card is it?
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666[05:21:03] <uxfi> ah
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668[05:21:10] <uxfi> Yojimbo; gaming rig? for what game?
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669[05:21:13] <Yojimbo> its a gtx980
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670[05:21:15] <Yojimbo> nothing fancy
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671[05:21:19] <uxfi> oh nice
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672[05:21:45] <Yojimbo> uxfi mostly stuff on steam. i like
stradegy games like Civ V
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673[05:21:58] <uxfi> oh ok
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675[05:22:02] <Yojimbo> stuff that i can spend hours on
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677[05:22:12] <mi11k1> are you trying to use nvidias drivers?
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678[05:22:24] <mi11k1> or i guess nit, sisnce you said backports
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681[05:24:41] <Yojimbo> yeah im just following the wiki for
nvidiagraphics
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683[05:24:56] <Yojimbo> for my card, to install the nvidia
graphics drivers i have to pull it from backports
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684[05:25:10] <Yojimbo> tbh a lot of it is above my knowledge. i
just follow the wiki haha
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686[05:25:21] <Yojimbo> but then the steam wiki said to use the
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687[05:25:25] <Cr4shPwn3r> hello
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689[05:25:46] <Cr4shPwn3r> can i have a cloak please
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690[05:26:02] <Yojimbo> Cr4shPwn3r: you need to go to #freenode
for that, amigo
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692[05:26:49] <mi11k1> Yojimbo, whats the link for the wiki
youre at?
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693[05:27:09] <Yojimbo> does that mean i should run apt-get
install -t jessie-backports nvidia-driver:386 ?
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694[05:27:32] <Yojimbo>
replaced-url
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695[05:27:42] <mi11k1> did you do dpkg --add-architeture i386?
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696[05:28:00] <Yojimbo> yeah i had to do that to isntall steam
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697[05:28:04] <Yojimbo> following the steam wiki
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698[05:28:13] <Yojimbo> i mean wiki.debian.org/Steam
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699[05:28:46] <Yojimbo> im just gonna try it. then if it
doesn't work. reinstall
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700[05:28:51] <Yojimbo> haha
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701[05:29:05] <Yojimbo> then once i get the right formula,
document it all in case i need to do it again in the future
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702[05:29:37] <mi11k1> just try without the 386 first maybe
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703[05:29:41] <Yojimbo> ok
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704[05:30:07] <mi11k1> ive never used steam, or graphics stuff
really
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705[05:30:45] <mi11k1> did you install dkms?
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707[05:31:45] <veek> weird i did apt-get install -t
jessie-backports openjdk-8-jdk maven libopenjfx-java
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708[05:32:03] <veek> but java is -v 7
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709[05:32:15] <Yojimbo> mi11k1: i have not installed dkms
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710[05:32:19] <Yojimbo> i don't even know what that is
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711[05:32:21] <Yojimbo> do i need it?
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712[05:32:40] <mi11k1> Yojimbo,
replaced-url
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714[05:33:05] <mi11k1> it looks like it install the 386 stuff
already
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715[05:33:46] <Yojimbo> oh ok
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716[05:33:55] <mi11k1> install dkms
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717[05:34:15] <mi11k1>
replaced-url
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719[05:34:16] <veek> crud i have 2 java's installed hmm
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720[05:34:25] <mi11k1> yah open and oracle
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722[05:35:11] <Yojimbo> ok ill try it
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723[05:35:28] <mi11k1> veek, oracle and openjdk?
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724[05:35:42] <veek> openjdk
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726[05:35:57] <veek> working
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727[05:36:21] <mi11k1> did you install oracle ?
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729[05:36:45] <veek> nope
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730[05:36:50] <mi11k1> what do you mean 2 installed?
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731[05:36:51] <veek> jessie-backports
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734[05:38:44] <mi11k1> you have 7 and 8 installed? i dont about
java, i use oracles
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736[05:40:17] <mi11k1> veek,
replaced-url
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737[05:40:26] * veek noddles
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738[05:40:34] <veek> i'm compiling bitsquare
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739[05:41:02] <veek> it uses java so..
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740[05:42:34] <mi11k1> from git?
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741[05:43:56] <mi11k1> i dont think its required to compile it,
but it runs in java. they have prebuilt deb packages i see
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743[05:44:29] <mi11k1> you just need jre not jdk
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747[05:45:14] <mi11k1> and i should say, im guessing
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748[05:45:54] <Yojimbo> Ok, nvidia drivers installed. it looks
like it built i386 drivers as well
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749[05:46:00] <Yojimbo> xorg conf made. time to restart
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750[05:46:06] <Yojimbo> the moment of truth heh
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751[05:46:23] <dvs> bam!
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752[05:46:30] <mi11k1> youre good
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753[05:48:08] <Yojimbo> well
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754[05:48:13] <Yojimbo> it didn't kernel panic this time
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755[05:48:14] <Yojimbo> so thats good
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756[05:48:16] <Yojimbo> hah
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757[05:48:24] <Yojimbo> gonna check to make sure its running off
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761[05:50:35] <Yojimbo> wow
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762[05:50:38] <Yojimbo> it works :)
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763[05:50:41] <Yojimbo> and steam launches
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764[05:50:57] <Yojimbo> istill gotta transfer my steam library
over from backup and test the games out though
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765[05:51:00] <mi11k1> there you go bud
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767[05:51:02] <Yojimbo> but so far so good :)
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768[05:51:09] <Yojimbo> thanks for your help mi11k1
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769[05:51:42] <mi11k1> no problem
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770[05:52:17] <mi11k1> make a backup of that xorg config that
yiu made too
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771[05:53:10] <mi11k1> someting always overwrites mine, but its
headless now anyways, so whatev
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948[08:36:10] <zaphir> good morning to all
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956[08:38:14] <uxfi> hi zaphir wher are you from?
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957[08:38:22] <zaphir> slovakia
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959[08:38:31] <uxfi> ah
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960[08:38:36] <uxfi> zeitsofa; not SLovenia :P
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962[08:39:07] <Uhrheber> Hi. Is there a simple way to put all
Debian 8 installation disks on one USB stick, so I can boot from it
and install everything directly?
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972[08:42:35] <zaphir> Urheber, you mean copy all home folder?
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976[08:45:14] <missmbob> Uhrheber: no
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1006[09:02:35] <Uhrheber> missmbob: The thing is, I want to
install to thin clients that have only an internal flash disk, but
no CD/DVD, and I have a bad internet connection, so netinstall is a
pain in the back. Would be great to have everything on one stick.
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1014[09:05:17] <at0m> Uhrheber: i assume these clients are on a
LAN? maybe look at apt-cacher, acng
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1015[09:05:57] <at0m> you will download every package only once,
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1016[09:06:00] <missmbob> Uhrheber: you could use jigdo to create
a dlbd image. doubt you'd need anything out of the 1st image of
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1017[09:06:18] <at0m> probably less bw than downloading all
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1019[09:06:46] <Uhrheber> I have all the bandwidth I want at
work, but unfortunately not at home.
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1020[09:06:51] <at0m> the installation disk will have lots of
packages you will not install
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1021[09:06:59] <at0m> ah, i see
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1033[09:14:45] <jelly> Uhrheber: netinstall and your own mirror
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1036[09:16:08] <Uhrheber> jelly: Can't I put all the files
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1037[09:16:40] <jelly> you still need a valid repo structure
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disks and 256GB USB sticks, there isn't a single big image.
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1121[09:57:59] <funabashi> Hey guys , ist possible to join/attach
to a session? pts/10 i have root on the box.
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1164[10:21:20] <funabashi> it said that
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1165[10:21:57] <funabashi> pts/10 2a00:S.0 Wed12 3days 1.33s
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1218[10:45:33] <jelly> dpkg: greet asakha
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1219[10:45:34] <dpkg> Gr33tz, asakha
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1220[10:46:44] <jelly> funabashi: only with dirty hacks, like
reptyr
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1221[10:46:56] <jelly> (use tmux or screen next time)
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1222[10:47:05] <jelly> ,i reptyr
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1223[10:47:06] <judd> Package reptyr (misc, optional) in
jessie/amd64: Tool for moving running programs between ptys.
Version: 0.5-1; Size: 19.4k; Installed: 77k; Homepage:
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2a00:S.0
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1288[11:13:22] <Iridos> although… if it's a screen,
there's of course an easier way to connect to it :)
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1382[12:08:01] <SwashBuckla_> hi there. Is there a way to do a
reverse lookup of a package and see what packages depend on X?
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1385[12:08:29] <SwashBuckla_> I have python tk8.4, and I want to
find the corresponding version of python-tk that depends on tk8.4
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1387[12:10:00] <Iridos> yes… there is apt-cache rdepends
and apt-rdepends (separate package)
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1388[12:10:16] <Iridos> the latter I think needs -r … read
the man page(s)
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1389[12:10:46] <SwashBuckla_> Iridos: excellent!
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1403[12:20:37] <Night_Elf> Hi all. Is there a way to install php
5.6 in debian7 ? What it has is php 5.4 .
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1409[12:25:19] <Night_Elf> ok, I am using what is mentioned here
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1412[12:25:55] <SwashBuckla_> Iridos: no luck! I ran `apt-cache
rdepends tk8.4` in the hope of seeing `python-tkN.N` in there,
telling me the specific version I'd need to install, but
instead all I saw was "Reverse Depends: blt;
printer-driver-foo2zjs".
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1416[12:32:43] <SwashBuckla_> apt-cache rdepends seems to only
list reverse-dependencies of packages you already have, which is
useless for my purposes.
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1431[12:46:25] <funabashi> jelly: thanks it was a dead zombie
process
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1436[12:47:41] <LINUX-NEW> Hi all, i have any error in startup
process with my dell latitude, is possible to bypass to speed up
boot ? the error is about any firmware missing but i check on
internet and these firmware no needed in the system...
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1466[12:58:32] <AN0NYM> @LINUX-NEW: just ignore these messages if
it's working
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1468[12:58:59] <Iridos> SwashBuckla_, there are not several
version of that packaged anyway
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1470[12:59:22] <LINUX-NEW> anonnumberanon, ?
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1471[12:59:35] <AN0NYM> ?
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1476[13:03:42] <jelly> !
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1477[13:04:16] <jelly> LINUX-NEW: it's probably not the
missing firmware that slows down boot in any noticeable way
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1478[13:04:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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1479[13:04:37] <LINUX-NEW> how can i fix ?
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1483[13:07:47] <jelly> LINUX-NEW: first you have to figure out
_what_ to fix. systemd-analyze may help with that.
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1496[13:14:47] <SwashBuckla_> <Iridos> SwashBuckla_, there
are not several version of that packaged anyway
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1497[13:14:58] <SwashBuckla_> Iridos: Yes, there are.
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1499[13:15:21] <SwashBuckla_> Iridos:
replaced-url
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1504[13:18:18] <jelly> Night_Elf: no
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1509[13:19:33] <jelly> well, you can certainly try to use dotdeb
but those builds have other issues
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1511[13:20:13] <Night_Elf> jelly: I see.
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1512[13:20:27] <Night_Elf> Is there any other repos I can use for
this purpose ?
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1514[13:21:34] <jelly> if you absolutely need 5.6, doing a
release upgrade to debian 8 is the sanest way to do it, from distro
installation consistency PoV
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1516[13:21:55] <jelly> but that is not a trivial task (eg. apache
2.2 -> 2.4 is a pain in itself)
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1521[13:22:44] <jelly> might as well mirgate to nginx + php5-fpm
at that point
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1525[13:24:02] <Night_Elf> Distro upgrades are not viable for me
right now though. On the other hand the system I am using is a work
workstation machine that is used as a desktop mostly and for testing
things ocasionally.
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1526[13:24:06] <Iridos> SwashBuckla_, no, you don't
understand. There are always different versions of the same package
on snapshots, because that contains all versions of the same package
ever made. But there are only very few packages of which debian
offers different versions for the same release. And those have the
version number in the package name, e.g. libtk8.5
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1527[13:25:08] <jelly> Night_Elf: consider setting up a jessie
chroot to test things in then, maybe
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1528[13:25:13] <Night_Elf> jelly: So I guess my option for now is
to see the packages from dotdeb. But what are the issues you spoke
about with those packages ?
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1529[13:25:19] <jelly> !dotdeb
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1530[13:25:19] <dpkg>
replaced-url
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1531[13:25:41] <Night_Elf> jelly: Will the chroot not complain
with my wheezy kernel ?
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1532[13:25:50] <jelly> it won't
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1533[13:25:53] <Night_Elf> ah ok.
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1538[13:27:20] <SwashBuckla_> Iridos: so... how do I determine
which will work for my machine?
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1540[13:27:45] <SwashBuckla_> I have python2.7.2+ installed, and
tk8.4
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1642[14:10:21] <SwashBuckla_> how do I determine which version of
python-tk will work for my machine?
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1659[14:18:54] <Eryn_1983_FL> hi peeps i am having trouble with
7zip can somebody help on cli?
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1660[14:19:02] <Eryn_1983_FL> 7zr a -v10m ?
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1662[14:19:12] <Eryn_1983_FL> is that right? i want volumes of 10
Mb
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1665[14:20:08] <cef> Eryn_1983_FL: seems right
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1667[14:20:41] <Eryn_1983_FL> System error:
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1668[14:20:43] <Eryn_1983_FL> E_NOTIMPL
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1669[14:20:46] <Eryn_1983_FL> thats the error i get..
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1672[14:22:28] <cef> hrm.. which version of 7z?
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1673[14:22:46] <cef> cos it works on Stretch.. can't help
you on Jessie I'm afraid
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1675[14:23:06] <cef> you're passing filenames to it?
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1676[14:23:42] <Eryn_1983_FL> 7-Zip (A) [64] 9.20 Copyright (c)
1999-2010 Igor Pavlov 2010-11-18
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1677[14:23:47] <Eryn_1983_FL> yeah
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1678[14:23:55] <Eryn_1983_FL> it works fine w/o volume switch
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1679[14:24:12] <cef> hrm.. Stretch has 16.02
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1680[14:24:14] <woshty> Eryn_1983_FL: Have you tried the regular
7z? Same?
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1681[14:24:28] <Eryn_1983_FL> 7z?
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1682[14:24:33] <Eryn_1983_FL> regular how do i use that?
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1683[14:24:41] <cef> yeah just use 7z, not 7zr
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1684[14:24:49] <cef> same options
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1685[14:24:54] <Eryn_1983_FL> yeah same error
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1688[14:26:23] <SwashBuckla_> how do I determine which version of
python-tk will work for my machine?
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1689[14:26:38] <Iridos> SwashBuckla_, there is nothing to
determine. There is one version for stable and one for testing (and
one in sid scheduled to enter testin, although that isn't
exactly true because we are so close to a release)
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1690[14:26:46] <SwashBuckla_> I don't and can't access
the internet to do simple dependency resolution
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1691[14:27:18] <SwashBuckla_> (which is rather annoying)
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1692[14:28:28] <Iridos> there isn't really a version choice
there.
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1693[14:28:45] <SwashBuckla_> Iridos: I downloaded the 'one
version for stable' as you say, but I found that it depended on
tk8.5, libtk8.5, libtcl8.5, libc6, and various other things that I
don't have
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1694[14:29:02] <SwashBuckla_> so the version was the wrong
version
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1695[14:29:15] <SwashBuckla_> I need one whose dependencies are
tk8.4, etc
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1696[14:29:24] <Iridos> yes, you need those
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1697[14:29:30] <Iridos> if you want that package
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1699[14:29:50] <Iridos> there are various ways to get all
dependencies in one go if you're offline
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1700[14:29:56] <SwashBuckla_> oh! How?
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1701[14:30:26] <Iridos> the simplest is probably to run apt-get
--print-uris install <packagename>
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1702[14:30:37] <Iridos> but there are more wholesale options like
apt-offline and apt-zip
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1703[14:30:40] <Iridos> dpkg, apt-zip
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1704[14:30:40] <dpkg> Update a non-networked computer using apt
and removable media. Just aptitude install apt-zip and read the docs
in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip, or ask me about <apt offline>
<apt-walkabout>.
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1706[14:31:06] <Iridos> you can message the bot about the others
( e.g. /msg dpkg apt offline )
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1710[14:31:38] <Eryn_1983_FL> it does not like sfx with -v
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1711[14:31:44] <Eryn_1983_FL> mofo
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1712[14:32:14] <cef> Eryn_1983_FL: well no.
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1713[14:32:24] <Eryn_1983_FL> well rar can do it..
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1714[14:32:33] <cef> Eryn_1983_FL: well 7z isn't rar
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1715[14:32:38] <Eryn_1983_FL> i can tell...
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1716[14:32:59] <Eryn_1983_FL> back in the dark ages when i was
archiving off on to dvds
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1717[14:33:14] <Eryn_1983_FL> my library i used rar to make my
volumes.
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1721[14:34:05] <cef> there's plenty of other archivers out
there
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1727[14:37:07] <Eryn_1983_FL> yeah i know but i wanted something
the parents and family could open..
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1766[14:50:23] <ForceRecon> wireshark looks really great on
debian
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1767[14:50:31] <ForceRecon> very awesome
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1797[15:05:48] <piefacelake9000> Hello. I have not used debian
since etch. I just installed stretch on my laptop. Is
laptop-mode-tools a thing that still needs to be installed for
managing power saving modes for the various bits of hardware?
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1800[15:06:51] <piefacelake9000> For things like controlling cpu
governors and SATA AHCI stuff.
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1802[15:07:34] <shtrb> beware of hardisk setup
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1803[15:07:52] <piefacelake9000> what?
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1805[15:08:16] <shtrb> the spinoff story from the past , if you
remeber it
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1806[15:08:25] <shtrb> spindown/up
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1807[15:08:36] <piefacelake9000> Not really. I have not really
used linux since etch.
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1809[15:09:18] <shtrb> I think that story was around that time ,
there were some standard disks (non SSD ) that exsessive spinoff/on
killed their warranty
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1813[15:09:49] <piefacelake9000> I have an SSD as the primary
drive. An HDD as a piece of storage mounted in /mnt. I rarely access
it.
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1814[15:10:21] <shtrb> The spinoff/on issue is only for HDD , and
the issue is the feature killed it not really the usage
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1815[15:10:21] <piefacelake9000> The question is: Is
laptop-mode-tools still the correct way to manage this stuff or has
something replaced it?
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1816[15:10:38] <piefacelake9000> ok ty.
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1817[15:11:00] <Tonkadoro> How can I get my stretch host to
communicate with my android phone? I've read many web
tutorials, but not detecting the android device.
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1818[15:11:42] <piefacelake9000> For example, does LMT conflict
with "power manager" in cinnamon?
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1822[15:12:25] <BluesKaj> Tonkadoro, look for your DE equivalent
to KDEconnect
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1829[15:15:42] <shtrb> piefacelake9000 , I relied on me DE's
capabilities for most things (maybe it's wrong ) :)
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1830[15:16:54] <BluesKaj> KDE connect is also available on your
android
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1835[15:19:03] <jelly> I'm running kdeconnect inside xfce on
stretch
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1842[15:20:32] <Tonkadoro> is this kdeconnect necessary?
i've been able in the past, on stretch, to just connect without
complications
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1843[15:20:39] <at0m> yea, i don't think there is another
equivqlent to kdeconnect
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1845[15:21:17] <petn-randall> Tonkadoro: That is a feature (MTP)
your Android phone needs to support.
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1846[15:21:34] <at0m> what communication are you looking for?
kdeconnect does file sharing, media remote, mousepad/keyb, SMS,..
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1847[15:21:38] <shtrb> I used bluettoth and usb to transfer data
for a while
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1848[15:22:01] <Tonkadoro> at0m, mtp file transfers.
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1851[15:23:08] <shtrb> at0m , gvfs + bluetooth ?
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1852[15:23:23] <Tonkadoro> petn-randall, it's supported
apparantly, i've made it work before. same host, same android
device.
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1853[15:23:39] <shtrb> Tonkadoro , what exectly are you trying to
achieve ?
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1854[15:23:50] <at0m> Tonkadoro: over usb, or network?
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1856[15:24:13] <bezaban> airdroid (android app) may be an
alternative if you have a 'dumb' DE and quick wireless
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1857[15:24:20] <Tonkadoro> shtrb, transfer files between my
debian machine and my android phone.
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1858[15:24:23] <petn-randall> Tonkadoro: What changed then? Did
you reinstall?
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1861[15:24:48] <Tonkadoro> petn-randall, yes, reinstalled.
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1864[15:25:38] <Tonkadoro> at0m, over usb cord.
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1867[15:26:03] <shtrb> did you remember to enable MTP on the
android
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1868[15:26:21] <shtrb> I falled in that issue more than few times
(you need enable it on the phone itself )
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1869[15:26:28] <Tonkadoro> shtrb, fuck no!!!!!!! lol, let me try
that.
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1870[15:26:40] <bezaban> oh.
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1872[15:26:56] <shtrb> yes , they changed the defaults
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1875[15:28:31] <shtrb> Tonkadoro , it will reset to NO every time
you plug it in (default is to charge )
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1877[15:29:39] <Tonkadoro> shtrb, I think you're on to
something, trying to figure out enabling it on the fone.
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1886[15:32:19] <BluesKaj> good to know airdroid is an option. I
don't use my phone for much other than making and receiving
calls . a few pics etc is about all
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1889[15:32:59] <shtrb> Tonkadoro ,
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1890[15:33:06] <LV426> one less wire to worry about and been very
happy with it across various machines
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1891[15:33:48] <shtrb> LV426 what do you mean ?
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1892[15:34:15] <LV426> shtrb: re airdroid
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1896[15:34:53] <LV426> shtrb: it uses the wireless to transfer
files/read sms etc via a web broweser
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1899[15:35:25] <shtrb> Oh , I need to re check KDE Connect to see
if they fixed their bluetooth interface at last
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1902[15:35:58] <shtrb> *the bluetooth interface to authnticate
and use it
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1904[15:36:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hi. If I delete keys in
/etc/ssh, will it regenerate them correctly when I start the service
if I do not run dpkg-reconfigure the package?
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1905[15:36:16] <Tonkadoro> shtrb, its an lg phone. trying to
remember how to enable mtp
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1907[15:37:15] <shtrb> did you try clicking on the notification
that says connectd as XXX ?
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1908[15:37:40] <shtrb> bezaban , are you using KDE connect or
something else ?
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1923[15:42:07] <petn-randall> Tonkadoro: It's usually hidden
in settings → storage → burger menu, at least up until
marshmallow.
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1926[15:42:25] <andrew2221> Hello everyone. Simple question,
hopefully with a simple answer. cp (copy) command, when copying from
a mounted folder (with cifs utils), to a local folder, if the files
are present in both places, and they are identical, the copy still
take place? Does the copy command has a built-in functionality (by
default) in such situations to "copy only if different" -
not talking about -u option.
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1927[15:42:29] <shtrb> burger menu ?!
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1928[15:42:44] <Tonkadoro> shtrb, that's what I thought.
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1929[15:42:51] <petn-randall> shtrb: Those three horizontal
stripes that look like a burger.
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1931[15:42:59] <Tonkadoro> lol
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1932[15:43:03] <petn-randall> :)
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1934[15:43:16] <shtrb> lol , now I wish to get a good burger but
there are none around
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1936[15:43:26] <_jd> Hi All, can anyone tell me what red security
label next to the package name mean?
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1937[15:43:29] <Tonkadoro> i have no burger menu in settings>
storage.
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1942[15:44:34] <shtrb> andrew2221 , depending on the underline
file system but it should be copied by default
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1943[15:44:55] <shtrb> There was once an FS that support remove
duplicated that had that feature
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1947[15:45:41] <andrew2221> shtrb, so no matter what, if no
option was specified, the files are copied, without checking if they
are the same?
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1953[15:46:01] <andrew2221> *and overwritten
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1954[15:46:05] <shtrb> as far as I know , yes
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1955[15:46:20] <shtrb> the overwrite or not will be decided by
the underlaying layer (usually yes)
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1956[15:46:31] <shtrb> underlaying layer == file system
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1957[15:46:49] <shtrb> and permissions / selinux / app aromor etc
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1959[15:47:13] <andrew2221> shtrb, I see.. hmmm.. Interesting..
ok. Thank you very much for the info. :)
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1960[15:47:28] <shtrb> you are welcome , but I didn't really
do anything
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1961[15:47:46] <shtrb> also maybe you should check some other
options (like rsync or pv ) just in case
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1964[15:48:35] <shtrb> and don't you afraid to touch cifs
now ? with all the STDs around ?
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1967[15:49:02] <shtrb> at my place any access to an SMB machine
is now done on a special vm which is killed after the access
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1968[15:49:02] <andrew2221> shtrb, rsync is slower in my case,
there is a performance issue with it, so I prefer not to use it, tho
it would work the same.
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1969[15:49:04] <shtrb> just in case
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1971[15:49:36] <andrew2221> shtrb, it's work related, so it
doesn't affect me personally.. :)
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1973[15:49:52] <shtrb> work usually affect us personally
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1975[15:50:10] <andrew2221> I meant the worm itself.
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1976[15:50:23] <shtrb> If you are in the windows world , check
guacamole
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1977[15:50:44] <shtrb> works perfectly on debian and has very
easy interface for standard users
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1978[15:50:52] <andrew2221> Happy Debian user here.. :)) But yes,
we have a few machines with Win..
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1980[15:51:01] <shtrb> there are several worms already , wannacry
is just one
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1982[15:51:39] <andrew2221> Heard something about NIX systems
being affected as well.. But for now, I am not worried more than I
need.
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1983[15:52:04] <shtrb> the affected part is files being corrupted
(ones that the windows machine had write access to it )
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1984[15:52:05] <shtrb> not the entire system
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1985[15:52:12] <teraflops> andrew2221: the exploit runs under
wine
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1986[15:52:17] <shtrb> lol
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1990[15:52:47] <andrew2221> teraflops, right, this is what I have
heard.. Thanks for the info.
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1991[15:53:14] <shtrb> andrew2221 , also windows now can access
NFS , just for the info
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1992[15:53:18] <shtrb> *NFS clients
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1995[15:53:58] <teraflops> shtrb: now?
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1996[15:54:10] <shtrb> In latests version
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1998[15:54:20] <teraflops> been able for years
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1999[15:54:34] <shtrb> I'm outdated (I meant since win7)
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2000[15:54:49] <teraflops> even before
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2001[15:54:55] <shtrb> out of the box ?!
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2002[15:55:02] <shtrb> shit I'm unedcuated
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2003[15:55:15] <teraflops> they used to have a unix compatibility
package
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2004[15:55:18] <andrew2221> shtrb, I have to run a cron every
minute to check if a file was changed, and in case of a change, save
the diff to a database. The file is coming from a WinXP machine, and
we/I cannot change this. mdbtools has a bug I guess, because it
cannot extract directly from the mounted folder, so I need to copy
it locally, hence the performance worries..
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2005[15:55:24] <teraflops> nfs included shtrb
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2008[15:56:36] <shtrb> andrew2221 , I'm in the same boat as
you can drop winxp so I have to find solutions
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2011[15:57:34] <fred1807> Can I use Tinc just to revert 1 port?
like with ssh -R 80:localhost:80 user@remote ?
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2013[15:58:00] <andrew2221> shtrb, I feel you... Anyways, thank
you for the info and for your time, I think I got an answer..
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2016[15:58:13] <andrew2221> For now, everyone have a great time.
:)
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2017[15:58:21] <andrew2221> Bye.
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2028[16:01:26] <ForceRecon> Can anyone tell me anything about the
Mono Framework
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2029[16:01:38] <ForceRecon> is it something that is utilized a
lot
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2033[16:02:36] <ForceRecon> I want to install NetworkMiner but I
am unsure if I want to do it in a Guest OS or actually install it on
my main OS
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2034[16:02:38] <babilen> ForceRecon: It was hip for a few weeks,
ten years ago and I wouldn't personally use it
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2037[16:03:30] <shtrb> ForceRecon , Didn't microsft release
full implementation of .net a while ago ?
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2040[16:04:36] <shtrb> don't know what wonder it could have
(
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2042[16:05:11] <shtrb> don't be surprised for some hidden
clause in the license
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2046[16:06:12] <ForceRecon> I think back in 2014 but when I
research that I find that people are still using mono with .net for
the ability to not have to specify mono at program start
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2064[16:11:41] <shtrb> Am I the only one who tried to use dotGNU
?
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2071[16:13:17] <BluesKaj> shtrb, what's dotGNU?
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2072[16:13:26] <shtrb> lol
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2073[16:13:28] <shtrb> shit I'm old
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2076[16:13:56] <shtrb> It was a project to allow access to .NET
under the gnu umbrell
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2077[16:13:59] <shtrb> umbrella
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2078[16:14:00] <BluesKaj> so am I, but I never tried
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2082[16:14:56] <shtrb> good job , touching asp.net is like
working with STD
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2083[16:14:56] <Tonkadoro> I got high I'm ok with not
transfering photos from my phone to facebook for now.
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2085[16:15:14] <shtrb> Tonkadoro ?!
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2086[16:15:23] <shtrb> didn't find the mtp enable ?
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2087[16:15:30] <shtrb> you can use bluetooth to transfer files
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2088[16:15:43] <Tonkadoro> yeah, fucking phone.
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2089[16:15:50] <shtrb> bluetooth ?
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2090[16:16:12] <shtrb> also , you can try using transfer over ip
with kdeconnect or something
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2091[16:16:28] <Tonkadoro> like i said, I appreciate you helping
me, but i'm kind of over it.
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2092[16:16:37] <shtrb> :-(
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2093[16:16:57] <BluesKaj> or transfer via usb cable
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2094[16:17:09] <shtrb> :D
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2095[16:17:25] <BluesKaj> well, if all else fails
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2097[16:17:54] <Tonkadoro> ok, i'm remembering all this.
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2103[16:20:58] <teraflops> sftp client should work ootb if you
run openssh on the computer
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2121[16:28:12] <abendabend> Trying and failing to change the
default config of the PDF printer. Could use a notch in the right
direction
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2135[16:34:07] <G__81> Hi can someone give me the link to
download Debian 9 RC2/RC3 Gnome Live CD ?
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2138[16:35:29] <zykotick9> G__81: <sidenotes> 1) the Debian
Live images don't work with UEFI 2) the Live images aren't
ideal for installation 3) it's often better to install stable,
then downgrade to testing YMMV. good luck.
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2147[16:42:16] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, what about a netinstall ?
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2149[16:42:40] <BluesKaj> in text mode
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2151[16:44:11] <BluesKaj> oh, maybe next time
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2154[16:45:27] <holycow> hi all
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2157[16:46:35] <holycow> on this debian image, every users that
creates a directory creates with the default 777 perms
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2159[16:46:46] <holycow> what controls that? i'm not finding
anythign in /etc/skel
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2161[16:47:30] <greycat> It's your umask setting.
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2163[16:47:36] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: i'm not understanding
your question/statement? netinst DOES support UEFI, while the Live
Images do not <- is that it?
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2164[16:47:37] <uxfi> test test hello
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2165[16:48:02] <greycat> If umask is 000 then all dirs are
created 777, and most files 666.
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2166[16:48:13] <holycow> aha!
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2167[16:48:17] <holycow> thank you
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2173[16:49:23] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, not sure, but the options
with the net install seem to be greater in the partitioning phase
than the gui installer
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2175[16:50:12] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: personally, the text install
netinst is the ONLY installer IMO... everything else is flawed ;)
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2177[16:50:50] <greycat> It's certainly the one that gets
the most testing.
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2178[16:51:08] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, yeah , I don't use any
other method either ...reminds of the old debian days :-)
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2181[16:52:04] <BluesKaj> it's familiar, easier to use
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2182[16:52:07] <somiaj> are you sure it is a graphical vs text
installer and not normal vs expert mode? I usually use the text
intsaller, but didn't notice anything missing when I did the
grahical one.
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2183[16:52:31] <somiaj> but the offical text installer is my
suggestion, expert mode if you need to do a lot of customization
during the install.
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2184[16:53:09] <BluesKaj> somiaj, the gui crashed on my machine
when i tried it so i reverted to the tried and true
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2186[16:53:51] <somiaj> ahh I thought this was about less options
during the partitioning part of the installer. I know this is a big
point expert vs normal has differences.
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2187[16:54:19] <somiaj> BluesKaj: by gui you mean graphicall
installer or live system?
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2188[16:54:45] <BluesKaj> well, the gui offer fewer paritioning
options from what I've read
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2189[16:55:15] <BluesKaj> the gui installer crashed
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2201[16:57:58] <Tonkadoro> ...mtp enable on an LG L16 with 4.4.2
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2203[16:58:30] <Tonkadoro> Siri, turn on mtp access.
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2211[17:04:13] <somiaj> Tonkadoro: this is #debian, not andriod
support. If your android isn't giving an option for mtp mode
when you plug it into your machine via usb, you may have to start
searching around the options on the phone.
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2213[17:05:01] <Tonkadoro> somiaj, Thanks for the advice, bro.
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2214[17:06:39] <Tonkadoro> hey should i reboot the phone maybe or
something?
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2215[17:06:47] <Tonkadoro> rebooting.
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2219[17:07:45] <Tonkadoro> HA! That did it!
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2223[17:08:52] <Tonkadoro> Thank you BluesKaj, shtrb for your
help.
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2252[17:21:06] <Tonkadoro> Now I guess I need to mount the mtp
device from my debian host?
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2253[17:21:08] <nezZario> Hey guys, I messed up. I have a ~100GB
sd disk .. to force myself to conserve the relatively small disk, I
started with a small 50gb logical volume under it, with a 50gb ext4
partition -- I just went to add +20GB to it and I mistyped and I
extended it to the full 103gb ... I haven't extended the
underlying partition .. is it safe to "shrink" it back
down ?
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2255[17:22:07] <greycat> What exactly did you extend? The
partition only? Or the partition plus the file system?
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2257[17:22:26] <nezZario> greycat: I extended the logical volume
into unused free space -- not the underlying ext4 filesystem
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2258[17:22:44] <nezZario> I intentionally left free space on the
pv
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2259[17:23:01] <nezZario> I'm assuming I'll be safe but
I'm not wildly familiar with lvm to be honest
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2260[17:23:32] <nezZario> This is exactly all that happened ->
"Size of logical volume myvol/root changed from 70.00 GiB
(17920 extents) to 102.38 GiB (26209 extents)."
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2262[17:23:52] <greycat> I'm still confused by your wording.
You split the disk into two partitions, and you made one a raw ext4
and the other one LVM?
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2269[17:25:00] <greycat> Or is the entire disk one LVM partition?
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2272[17:25:29] <nezZario> No, I have 1 partition, myvol/root,
which is a big fat / -- it was using 70GB (sorry I said something
else earlier). I had ~32GB free space on the pv that was completely
unused. I meant to add +10GB or so to it, .. accidentally extended
it by 32GB to the entire disk
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2273[17:25:30] <nezZario> Correct
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2277[17:25:57] <nezZario> (I was about to expand it by a few gb
and create a separate partition which is why I want to back it up so
badly)
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2278[17:26:14] <greycat> So you increased the size of an LV but
you didn't increase the size of the ext4 that's *on top*
of the LV. Then it should be safe to shrink the LV back down.
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2279[17:26:31] <greycat> But I'm not sure how you tell it to
do that.
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2280[17:26:38] <nezZario> expand the existing partition by a
*few* gb and create another logical partition with the remaining
25gb or so
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2281[17:26:52] <nezZario> well you can say --size -15GB
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2282[17:26:54] <greycat> You cannot expand the partition. The
partition is the entire disk.
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2284[17:27:09] <greycat> ext4 is on top of LV is on top of
partition is on top of disk
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2286[17:27:30] <nezZario> oh right -- sorry for the terminology
fail -- LV* not partition
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2289[17:27:52] <nezZario> k like i said i thought i'd be
fine ...
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2292[17:28:07] <nezZario> i have fairly recent backups if worse
comes to worse I suppose
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2294[17:28:28] <greycat> I've never shrunk an LV before. The
trick would seem to be how it knows which PV chunks to release.
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2296[17:28:59] <jelly> nezZario: dumpe2fs -h /dev/mapper/your-lv
| grep '^Block ' will tell you how large the filesystem
thinks it is.
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2297[17:29:03] <greycat> There's lvreduce(8) but as I said,
I've never used it.
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2299[17:29:22] <jelly> lvresize/lvreduce works.
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2301[17:29:25] <nezZario> That was sort of my thoughts exactly
... I'm going to assume it'll do the right thing because
I've only extended it little bits at a time with plenty of free
space at the end of the disk
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2302[17:29:36] <jelly> don't assume, verify
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2307[17:30:41] <jelly> if you make the LV not smaller than (block
size * block count) bytes, things are supposed to be just fine.
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2309[17:30:50] <jelly> lvresize _will_ complain
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2310[17:30:58] <jelly> that's normal
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2312[17:31:15] <Bobbix> Hi, i've downloaded debian 8.8.0 iso
and the hash is not correct
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2313[17:31:16] <nezZario> so lvm always works in chunks from
beginning to end? ...
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2314[17:31:26] <Bobbix> tho times
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2316[17:32:05] <nezZario> I mean, I'm not sure if it's
even possible, but say I had 10gb, had 5 allocated, 5 free, then
allocated 4gb offset by 1gb (if it's possible to specify an
offset of free space?)
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2317[17:32:14] <jelly> nezZario: it can be asked to do more
complex stuff, but it does simple concatenation by default
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2318[17:32:21] <nezZario> great
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2320[17:32:29] <nezZario> that's enough confidence for me
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2323[17:32:48] <jelly> you're not supposed to care which PV
blocks map to which LV blocks, that's LVM's job
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2324[17:33:00] <BluesKaj> Bobbix, if it doesn't match then
delete it, download another
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2327[17:33:15] <greycat> (except in this case he cares because
he's shrinking, and he wants to shrink by removing only unused
extents, not used extents)
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2330[17:33:59] <jelly> you can only reduce size from the end of
the lv, so "extents" don't matter
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2332[17:34:25] <greycat> Oh, does it keep an ordered list of
extents, so it ... yeah, I guess it would have to, wouldn't it.
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2333[17:34:31] <jelly> what matters is not cutting off the end of
the filesystem data and/or metadata
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2334[17:34:40] <greycat> Right. We're saying the same thing.
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2335[17:34:51] <jelly> (it does, you can see it in nifty
vgcfgbackups)
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2337[17:35:20] <jelly> in fact using vgcfgbackups is one way to
undo a mess like this
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2341[17:36:31] <jelly> ls -la /etc/lvm/archive
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2342[17:36:36] <jelly> stuff!
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2344[17:37:12] <greycat> It's ... full of numbers.
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2345[17:37:26] <Tonkadoro> When I plug in my android cell fone, I
get a bubble messge on X that an mtp device has been attatched, and
a Nautilus window pops open to home folder. Do I need to mount it to
gain file access or something?
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2350[17:38:44] <nezZario> btw on the subject of lvm, filesystems,
and related -- anyone use btrfs or zfs on linux in production here?
-- just wondering
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2351[17:38:45] <jelly> each lv has one or more segments, which
are composed of one or more stripes, which are slices of a pv
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2353[17:39:11] <nezZario> I used btrfs on a personal machine a
while back and never had any problem out of it ...
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2354[17:39:33] <MacGyver> (Re)starting hostapd on an interface
configured through /etc/network/interfaces resets its routing rules
set through post-up rules; is there any way around this?
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2359[17:40:09] <jelly> seen people complain of their btrfs
getting unexpectedly "full" a bit too often in here
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2372[17:44:03] <lgeurts> soz
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2373[17:44:24] <kalipso> hey i have a problem with harddrives. i
have a debain jessie pc with 2x 2TB hdd and 1x 1TB HDD. all of them
formated to ext4. the problem is that one of the 2tb hdds never gets
recognized. i plugged it into an archlinux pc and there both 2tb
hdds get recognized but the 1tb not. i realy need booth 2tb hdds
cause i want to setup a raid 0. any suggestions how to detect the
2tb hdd?
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2375[17:44:56] <greycat> How do you know it's "not
recognized"? What command are you using and what is its output?
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2377[17:45:09] <kalipso> i check /dev/ and use lsblk
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2378[17:45:20] <kalipso> also dmesg normaly shows when a hdd is
connected
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2379[17:45:25] <kalipso> which doesnt happen
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2380[17:45:44] <greycat> Then it sounds like a hardware level
issue (missing connection and/or power cable).
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2381[17:46:19] <kalipso> it is a nas case with modular hdd slots.
i changed the slot and it didnt changed. connections are 100% fine
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2386[17:48:47] <kalipso> wait the screws on the not working one
are not as tight as the others.. i changed that and test again
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2387[17:49:26] <MacGyver> Ah, nvm, I was managing hostapd from
outside the interfaces-file, adding it in using a hostapd stanza
seems to have fixed that.
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2393[17:51:33] <kalipso> greycat: the f*** u where right. i
thought i checked every possible hardware failure but i diddnt.
thightening the screws moved to hdd like 1 nano meter towards the
connector and now it gets recognized.
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2394[17:51:44] <kalipso> s/to/the/
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2399[17:53:01] <jelly> !win kalipso
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2400[17:53:01] <dpkg> Congratulations, kalipso! You have won the
time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120!
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2485[18:24:31] <peteski> Hey all, I'm a newbie with Debian
and wondered what the easiest way to backup my icons, themes,
settings/programs is?
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2486[18:24:45] <peteski> I downloaded some custom bits for gnome
which I'd like to get back if I reinstall etc.
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2489[18:25:12] <peteski> I'd read that just backing up home
was good, but by the looks of it there's *stuff* in
/usr/share/backgrounds and I guess other places I dont know where to
look
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2491[18:26:07] <greycat> /home and /etc are the most important,
by far.
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2495[18:27:13] <peteski> Hey greycat, thanks for that.
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2498[18:27:52] <peteski> So if I backup those folders, can I roll
them back over the top of any fresh install to get back to where
I'm at now? (which is mainly just with a few apps installed and
some paper/material theme + some user settings for said apps)
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2501[18:28:24] <greycat> It should be safe to blindly restore the
whole of /home but *not* /etc or /usr or /var. Those should be
merged in by hand, carefully.
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2502[18:28:38] <nezZario> peteski: it may be also beneficial to
keep a copy of your apt log file, which is in /var/log/apt -- these
logs roll-over by default so I personally keep it turned off so I
have a complete log. There are other ways to get the data but I find
it just easier
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2504[18:29:05] <peteski> Thanks for the suggestions guys.
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2505[18:29:08] <greycat> a flat text file containing the output
of "dpkg --get-selectiosn" is a good thing also
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2506[18:29:14] <greycat> err --get-selections
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2507[18:29:22] <peteski> guys==dudes==none descript slang thing.
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2508[18:29:29] <nezZario> I use xfce and I was able to copy
~/.config/ onto a new PC and just keep rolling
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2509[18:29:40] <nezZario> after installing packages, of course
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2510[18:29:47] <peteski> It's a shame there's not a
morons tool, like backup --userstuff
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2513[18:30:11] <peteski> that knows when things have been fiddled
with outside /home and keeps em for you
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2514[18:30:25] <nezZario> peteski: there are just too many
situations to know _what_ to backup, but there basically is --
it's called tar -cf myStuff.tar directory-to-backup/ :)
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2515[18:30:44] <peteski> :)
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2516[18:30:53] <peteski> Excuse my ignorance
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2517[18:30:59] <nezZario> speaking of simple questions .. this is
really bugging me
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2521[18:32:13] <nezZario> I don't do enough stuff outside of
a shell and my browser to even know -- but some apps when I open
them they'll say "This program requires root permissions
blah blah..." ... where does that even come from? my window
manager? ....
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2522[18:32:35] <nezZario> I don't have a root password so
it's problematic to type a root password..
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2523[18:33:00] <jhutchins_wk> nezZario: Yes, that is your window
manager interpreting a request to run a program that requires root
permissions.
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2525[18:33:21] <jhutchins_wk> nezZario: Depending on what
you're using, it may has for the user password (sudo) or root
password (su).
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2526[18:33:22] <nezZario> It would be nice to be able to click
stuff from the desktop or whatnot and escalate privs as needed
without needing to find the app and run gksudo
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2527[18:33:23] <teraflops> nezZario: they ask for sudo password
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2530[18:33:59] <greycat> Is this the part where nezZario reveals
he's actually on Ubuntu or some other non-Debian system?
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2531[18:34:15] <nezZario> I use debian 8 and xfce homie
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2532[18:34:19] <alekz> lol
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2534[18:34:59] <BluesKaj> homie ? heh
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2535[18:35:45] <greycat> I parsed that as "xfce home"
at first glance, and it sounded like xfce had different modes that
mimic Microsoft Windows OSes ("home",
"professional", etc.)
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2537[18:36:15] <nezZario> whoah -- speaking of weird stuff. ok
... no seriously I've used this pc for like a year now and
I've never stopped to really set it up aside from copying my
old xfce conf over
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2538[18:36:32] <BluesKaj> I don't p[arse , i still read
directly :-)
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2539[18:36:34] <nezZario> default wallpaper on xfce, theme,
colors, whatever ...
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2542[18:37:21] <teraflops> hehe xfce home edition
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2544[18:37:28] <BluesKaj> ugh
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2552[18:38:36] <BluesKaj> i have raspbian-pixel on a rpi3 ,,,now
rhat's vanilla
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2553[18:38:48] <BluesKaj> that's
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2554[18:39:00] <nezZario> well you know that's funn you say
that ...
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2557[18:39:17] <nezZario> when I open Synaptic it says action:
com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic
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2558[18:39:46] <nezZario> anyway --
replaced-url
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2561[18:42:00] <centrx> What's broken?
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2584[18:51:40] <dorothy> Hi, what signing key is used for Debain
8 CD releases?
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2586[18:51:43] <jamn> hi
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2593[18:54:45] <dorothy> I'm trying to verify the iso image,
but it seems it was not signed by any of the keys posted at
replaced-url
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2599[18:56:31] <nezZario> centrx: when I try to open apps that
need root access, it prompts me as such .. and I don't have a
password set on root
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2601[18:56:57] <centrx> nezZario: oh you should definitely have a
password set on root for security
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2606[18:57:47] <centrx> nezZario: but here are some leads,
replaced-url
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2608[18:59:17] <nezZario> uh sorry -- meant "unmatchable
hash" set on root
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2610[18:59:24] <nezZario> but k at least that's a start
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2617[19:00:55] <teraflops> if you do not create root account
during debian installation, it defaults to sudo, right? then how is
that situation taking place? is that synatptic thingy behaving
incorreclty?
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2622[19:01:46] <teraflops> excuse my ignorance but i do not use
such things
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2624[19:03:06] <petn-randall> dorothy: With what command are you
verifying it?
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2637[19:07:32] <dorothy> petn-randall, with the OpenPGP signature
verification option in Nautilus
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2641[19:09:24] <jhutchins_wk> dorothy: Is it possible that the
file is incomplete or corrupt?
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2643[19:09:51] <jhutchins_wk> dorothy: Have you checked it's
md5sum?
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2645[19:11:02] <dorothy> jhutchins_wk yes, everything is ok, but
the signature is untrusted
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2646[19:11:44] <greycat> Uh... why is this a surprise? You
haven't established a chain of trust from you to the developer
who signed the key, right?
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2647[19:11:59] <greycat> So it's telling you that the
signature is valid but the key is untrusted. Right?
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2649[19:13:14] <SuperTramp83> dorothy: you should see
''Good signature....." and ignore the last message
('this key is untrusted' or something like that)
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2655[19:18:44] <dorothy> SuperTramp83, i am just asking what key
was used to sign it, because the one provided on the site
weren't
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2657[19:19:17] <greycat> pastebin the full output of whatever
command you ran, *INCLUDING* the command that you ran.
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2663[19:21:20] <dorothy> whether I trust the signing key or not
is my concern, I'm just asking which one was used to sign it
because I haven't found that
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2675[19:24:44] <jelly> dorothy:
replaced-url
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2677[19:25:22] <jelly> dorothy: do you still have the URL for the
iso you downloaded which doesn't match?
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2679[19:25:44] <greycat> Near as I can tell, it *did* match but
she stubbornly refuses to READ the god damned output, or to show it
to us.
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2680[19:25:58] <jelly> that's a possibility
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2689[19:27:59] <jelly> it's however a bit of an
extraordinary statement and I agree providing extraordinary proof
would be nice
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2691[19:28:32] <jelly> like a screenshot in case of a GUI tool
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2695[19:30:16] <dorothy> i used the OpenPGP signature
verification option in Nautilus, output: "SHA512SUMS: Untrusted
Valid Signature"
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2696[19:30:56] <dorothy> although the 3 keys listed at
replaced-url
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2697[19:31:00] <greycat> There you go. The signature is good. But
untrusted.
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2699[19:31:22] <dorothy> downloaded the files from multiple
mirrors
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2700[19:31:34] <dorothy> they match
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2702[19:31:42] <greycat> So what is the issue?
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2703[19:32:29] <dorothy> greycat the issue is that the SHA512SUMS
is not signed by the 3 keys listed on the link above
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2704[19:32:56] <dorothy> I ask what signature was used to sign it
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2705[19:33:00] <greycat> Why do you think this?
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2706[19:33:56] <dorothy> because of the output contains
"untrusted" despite the fact that i trust those 3 keys
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2707[19:34:21] <jelly> dorothy: how precisely did you set those
trust levels for those keys
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2708[19:34:23] <greycat> Then stop using a stupid GUI program and
use a command-line COMMAND.
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2709[19:34:36] <teraflops> dorothy: how did you trust those keys?
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2710[19:34:36] <jelly> perhaps it didn't do the job
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2713[19:34:45] <teraflops> dorothy:
replaced-url
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2715[19:36:09] <SuperTramp83> dorothy, pardon but I ignore your
level of expertise, and gpg can indeed be rather complicated. Can
you try and follow these instructions ->
replaced-url
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2716[19:36:38] <SuperTramp83> ^that guide is very clear.
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2717[19:36:41] <greycat> Or give us the URL of the SHA512SUMS
file you got, so we can do it for you.
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2719[19:37:24] <jelly> maybe you can, I'm certainly not
going to bother
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2725[19:40:48] <endpoint_david> hi, we just released an updated
version of DBD::Pg, is there anything special we need to do to get
libdbd-pg-perl updated with this, and how long will it take to get
in upstream packages?
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2728[19:41:32] <dorothy> greycat
replaced-url
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2729[19:41:37] <jelly> endpoint_david: if you just released it,
then you're the upstream
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2732[19:42:06] <greycat> wooledg:~$ gpg --verify SHA512SUMS.sign
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2733[19:42:09] <greycat> gpg: using RSA key DA87E80D6294BE9B
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2734[19:42:17] <greycat> ^^ That is the key that was used.
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2736[19:42:32] <tw> additionally Primary key fingerprint: DF9B
9C49 EAA9 2984 3258 9D76 DA87 E80D 6294 BE9B
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2737[19:42:33] <greycat> Command line is simpler than GUI.
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2741[19:43:08] <endpoint_david> jelly: fair point, how long until
it trickles down to (say) trusty?
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2742[19:43:27] <greycat> You'd have to ask #ubuntu about
that.
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2743[19:43:57] <jelly> endpoint_david: that question is probably
better asked in #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu; and if they're
picking it up from Debian, then likely "not before stretch is
released"
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2744[19:43:58] <greycat> You missed the cut-off for getting a new
version into stretch (Debian 9) by a few months. It'll probably
go into buster (Debian 10 or whatever) in a couple years.
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2745[19:44:13] <endpoint_david> duhr, ok, thanks
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2746[19:44:21] <endpoint_david> so it's definitely a
distribution-based release cycle
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2747[19:44:30] <endpoint_david> I was unclear of that
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2751[19:44:48] <endpoint_david> that at least answers my
immediate quesiton; thanks
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2752[19:45:19] <dmtd> Hi all, how do I make a module in
rsync.conf able to be read and written to? I tried read only = false
and write only = false in hopes that it allows read and write...but
I keep getting an error saying the module is read only. Help!
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2754[19:45:30] <jelly> endpoint_david: however, Canonical does
not get all of the package versions from Debian; you may have better
luck there if yo... eh
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2755[19:45:52] <jelly> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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2762[19:49:21] <teooo> hello! i have a question about wine, not
sure i'm in the correct place: i need to install vc++
redistributable 2015 x86
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2763[19:49:32] <teooo>
replaced-url
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2764[19:49:40] <teooo> here they install x64 and seems
"easy"
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2766[19:50:02] <teooo> when i do wine32 vc_redistx86.exe seems
locked
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2769[19:50:35] <petn-randall> teooo: Why do you want to install
those libraries on a Linux machine?
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2770[19:50:57] <somiaj> teooo: what version of wine are you
running?
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2771[19:51:00] <somiaj> ,v wine
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2772[19:51:01] <judd> Package: wine on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.4.1-4;
jessie: 1.6.2-20; jessie-backports: 1.8.7-2~bpo8+1; stretch:
1.8.7-2; sid: 1.8.7-2; experimental: 2.0.1-1
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2775[19:51:27] <somiaj> teooo: on jessie it is version 1.6, even
in jessie backports there is 1.8, but even then that report says
support is garbage for 1.9.0
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2777[19:51:47] <somiaj> teooo: could be you need
wine-developement or a newer version of wine that you compile
yourself for thta
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2778[19:51:55] <teooo> somiaj: i have 1.6.2
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2780[19:52:49] <somiaj> most likely that is the problem, since
1.9.0 says garbage, someting leading up to the 2.x release is most
likely needed
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2781[19:52:52] <somiaj> ,v wine-development
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2782[19:52:53] <jelly> petn-randall: usually it's "to
make $software work in wine"
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2783[19:52:53] <judd> Package: wine-development on amd64 --
jessie: 1.7.29-4; jessie-backports: 2.0-3~bpo8+1; sid: 2.0-3;
stretch: 2.0-3; experimental: 2.8-1
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2784[19:53:08] <somiaj> teooo: you can get wine 2.0 from
wine-development in jessie-backports
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2786[19:53:30] <teooo> ok, i try, thanks!
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2791[19:56:10] <teooo> mmm no luck, i have added jessie-backports
this way: deb
replaced-url
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2792[19:56:14] <teooo> apt-get update
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2794[19:56:24] <teooo> then apt-get install wine-developement
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2795[19:56:28] <teooo> but still package not found
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2796[19:56:36] <random_numbers> So, how's stretch coming
along?
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2797[19:56:46] <toruvinn> teooo, that's now how you install
things from backports. gimme a sec.
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2799[19:56:53] <greycat> !jessie-backports
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2800[19:56:53] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Stretch (Debian
9) but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found
in the "jessie-backports" repository. See
replaced-url
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2801[19:56:55] <petn-randall> teooo: wine-development, NOT
wine-develop<e>ment
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2802[19:57:02] <teooo> oh sorry
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2803[19:57:05] <toruvinn> teooo,
replaced-url
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2804[19:57:10] <toruvinn> pay attention to the -t parameter.
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2809[19:58:00] <teooo> toruvinn: now that i fixed the typo it is
installing, anyway i will read your link, thanks!
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2812[19:59:15] <petn-randall> teooo: It will not install the
backports version though, unless you use the -t parameter.
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2814[19:59:59] <teooo> i saw, from his link; no problem i will
see wich version i get and add -t later
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2817[20:01:02] <dorothy> thanks greycat, SuperTramp83, jelly,
thanks for the help, i had added the keys as trusted, pgp still
writes 'unknown/untrusted' until I sign them with my
signatures
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2824[20:03:44] <dorothy> it is kind of a UX problem imo (both
with the GUI and the console version)
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2844[20:09:27] <teooo> good news vc++ setup now runs
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2845[20:09:43] <teooo> bad news comparing install times on
windows vs wine it does nothing
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2846[20:09:55] <teooo> in fact program still doesnt work
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2863[20:15:15] <mahaaaham> (hey)
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2873[20:18:41] <alesan> is there a way to apply, install a debian
package in a specific directory that contains a full filesystem?
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2875[20:19:10] <alesan> and that filesystem is a different
architecture compared to, say, the one running the host
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2889[20:24:26] <rapha> Hi
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2890[20:24:27] <ksk> alesan: lxc, lxd, systemd. chroot.
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2891[20:24:54] <rapha> Based on Debians 1-8, is it more likely
than not that Stretch will be released before Dec 31?
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2892[20:24:55] <ksk> oh, different ARCH? you gonna need full
virtualisation (!= container ) for that.
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2894[20:25:12] <ksk> rapha: when its ready ;)
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2895[20:25:24] <alesan> ksk, but could not a package be just
"unzipped" in the directory?
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2897[20:25:50] <rapha> ksk: I know. I could have given myself
that answer.
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2900[20:26:11] * rapha is reading
replaced-url
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2901[20:26:47] <rapha> But other people have been around much
longer than I have and neural networks tend to develop with time.
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2907[20:28:44] <alesan> ksk, ultimately a .deb is an archive that
I believe can be decompressed on a directory... and then there might
be some actions taken by some scripts I guess?
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2908[20:29:02] <alesan> I need to update libsane nothing major
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2912[20:30:37] <forcerecon> am I here
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2913[20:30:37] <phogg> alesan: you can extract a package's
contents, but that's not the same thing as installing it.
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2914[20:30:41] <forcerecon> looks like it
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2915[20:30:53] <ksk> alesan: "dpkg -x $foo.deb ."
extracts the package file to local dir
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2916[20:31:06] <ksk> alesan: but you will not be able to eg run a
ARM binary on AMD64
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2921[20:31:55] <alesan> ksk, obviously I do not intend to run it
on amd64
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2922[20:32:04] <ksk> and yes, extracting is not like installing.
just putting the contents an install would put where they belong
(realtive to the path you supply, "." in the case of my
example)
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2923[20:32:21] <alesan> but that whole rootfs directory will be
packaged and flashed on the NAND of the ARM device
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2927[20:33:09] <ksk> you want to install debian for a differnt
arch? use debootstrap
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2928[20:33:16] <ksk> !tell alesan about debootstrap
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2932[20:33:41] <alesan> that would be cool, and in fact that is
how it was done at the begining
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2933[20:33:54] <alesan> now however, I just need to quickly
update one package and ship it :)
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2937[20:34:29] <greycat> extracting the files from a .deb is
*not* equivalent to updating the package on a file system image
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2938[20:34:57] <greycat> it doesn't update the metadata in
dpkg's files, and it doesn't run the postinst (etc.)
scripts
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2939[20:35:04] <alesan> greycat, indeed
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2940[20:35:35] <greycat> and probably other stuff like preserving
config files under /etc
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2942[20:35:37] <alesan> is there a way to do so, without having
to rebuild ALL the image with debootstrap?
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2943[20:36:02] <greycat> mount the file system on an arm-whatever
box, chroot into it, run dpkg -i foobar.deb
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2944[20:36:11] <alesan> config files can be taken care, that is
not a big deal, by first expandin into an empty dir, check what
files would be overwritten, etc
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2945[20:36:36] <alesan> greycat, oh interesting
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2946[20:36:42] <alesan> I could mount it with sshfs
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2947[20:36:47] <alesan> chroot into it...
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2948[20:37:08] <ksk> you cannot chroot into it, if eg /bin/bash
is ARM and your running linux is AMD64 ;)
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2949[20:37:23] <ksk> does not matter if its local or via sshfs
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2950[20:37:23] <greycat> That's why I said "on an
arm-whatever"
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2953[20:37:39] <ksk> you did :)
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2956[20:38:13] <alesan> ksk, well the ARM device cannot really
mount the server's hard drive directly, it does not have a SATA
interface
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2958[20:38:23] <alesan> that is why I was proposing to use sshfs
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2960[20:38:30] <alesan> it should be easier to setup than NFS
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2961[20:38:36] <count> heya :)
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2963[20:38:40] <greycat> if you can ssh into the arm box, and
then mount the FS image onto it using NFS or sshfs or whatever, then
you may have a prayer
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2965[20:38:49] <alesan> so
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2967[20:39:03] <count> what's the best way to request
someone to have a look at the upstream upgrade for
replaced-url
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2968[20:39:07] <alesan> server and box are not on the same
network... but I could setup a VPN
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2970[20:39:17] <alesan> mount with sshfs if possible
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2971[20:39:21] <greycat> count: file a bug (wishlist if you want
a new upstream to be packaged)
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2972[20:39:21] <alesan> chroot into it
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2973[20:39:21] <ksk> count: the package maintainer I would think.
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2975[20:39:56] <greycat> alesan: sounds like your development
setup isn't conducive to actually getting work done
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2980[20:42:11] <alesan> greycat, well at the same time the debian
packaging system could theoretically be architecture independent and
allow what I am trying to do without requiring a target CPU and
assume / as installation directory
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2981[20:42:22] <alesan> so nobody is without fault
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2984[20:43:55] <alesan> well
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2985[20:44:17] <alesan> I could just get the rootfs so it's
local, use my lapitop
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2986[20:44:21] <jhutchins_wk> alesan: I'm sure there's
a standard method for doing this kind of thing, after all the first
ARM image has to be built on a different architecture.
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2988[20:44:59] <alesan> jhutchins_wk, probably the debootstrap,
but it is my understanding it always re-creates a full image, and I
cannot do that as the FS has been tweaked and configured already etc
etc
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2990[20:45:25] <alesan> jhutchins_wk, but yes, it seems the
"cross package management" is imperfect
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2993[20:46:14] <alesan> and I do not want to be perceived ads
whining or complaining, I am just observing this, it's always
the best system around
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2996[20:47:16] <count> ksk: hmmyeaaah .. "Debian Med
Packaging" is a bit hazy ;) .. not sure about Kevin Murray
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2998[20:47:30] <count> ksk: I tend to try to ping people on IRC
;)
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2999[20:48:07] <ksk> count: please do follow grey-cat his advice,
and fill a whislist bug
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3000[20:48:33] <count> ksk: ah, missed that. will do. thanks
greycat! :)
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3003[20:49:37] <ksk> alesan: maybe take a look into pbuilder, but
might be some additional hassle to go "fullstack pbuilder"
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3014[20:54:12] <jhutchins_wk> alesan: What's the reason you
can't just run apt* on the Pi?
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3017[20:54:34] <_abc_> Hello. Can someone confirm that racoon is
only available in debian after etch (i.e. not in etch?)
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3022[20:55:35] <Primer> Anyone here involved with the official
Debian AWS AMIs? I'm trying to run an instance type that uses
SR-IOV networking - Enhanced Networking (ENI) but the machine fails
the cloud-init stage due to not having connected to the network at
boot.
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3024[20:55:45] * _abc_ revokes the question, google answered
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3027[20:57:03] <alesan> jhutchins_wk, it is not a Raspberry Pi.
It's a device with an Arm Cortex A9 but currecntly it uses
ARMEL flavor. It also doe dnot have removable storage, it's a
NAND soldered to the board
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3031[20:59:17] <jhutchins_wk> alesan: Question remains: Why not
just run apt* on the device?
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3032[20:59:28] <koris> does anyone here have an idea why it might
be that my BIOS doesn't take input from my USB keyboard even
when it is directly connected to the computer? it used to work fine
with this keyboard, but now I can't enter the BIOS config or
the boot selection. however, once I get to GRUB, my keyboard does
work
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3034[20:59:57] <count> sendmail: RCPT
TO:<submit@bugs.debian.org> (550 Requested action not taken:
mailbox unavailable)
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3035[21:00:01] <count> wtf?
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3036[21:00:04] <saitoh183> hi all, im having a few issues with
getting python script to work. it only seems to work when i do
"python script.py". When i do just script.py , i get
permission denied. on root or a user
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3037[21:00:21] <jhutchins_wk> koris: There may be a "legacy
mode" setting for USB in the BIOS if you can get to it with a
different keyboard.
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3039[21:02:59] <koris> hm, thanks, I'll see if I can try
that
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3044[21:03:44] <jhutchins_wk> koris: You could also experiment
with different ports.
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3046[21:04:55] <_abc_> Hello again. Can someone point me at where
racoon*.dpkg is hiding at archive.debian.org? Need to dig out an
older package and analyze it?
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3047[21:05:09] <greycat> Packages live in pool.
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3048[21:05:37] <_abc_>
replaced-url
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3050[21:06:09] <greycat> Is it actually in main?
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3052[21:06:38] <_abc_> it should be in net per contents.
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3053[21:06:51] <_abc_> I also tried the others.
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3058[21:08:30] <greycat> Is it DFSG-free? Is it maybe in contrib
or non-free? Or non-us, if it's from that far back?
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3063[21:09:47] <_abc_> Filename:
pool/main/i/ipsec-tools/racoon_0.6.6-3.1etch3_i386.deb DUH
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3064[21:09:50] <_abc_> i...
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3066[21:10:12] <greycat> Weird.
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3067[21:10:26] <_abc_> it *is* there
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3069[21:10:30] <greycat> I see why they stopped doing that.
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3074[21:10:56] <greycat> (or is "ipsec-tools" the name
of the source package that "racoon" is in?)
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3077[21:11:42] <_abc_> it's the 'group' of
packages
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3079[21:12:37] <zzX2eek> hey, so i have a debain box
authenticating via PAM + SSS + NSS to an LDAP server. I followed a
guide, and understand PAM and NSS part. Going over the configuration
again, im confused why SSS was needed when it looks like i can
configure NSS to connect to LDAP.
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3155[21:47:00] <mallozup> ciao all
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3164[21:52:04] <mallozup> hi, i was looking at some tutorial from
debian.wik. i was thinking, is there any project to transform the
wikipage on a git repo?
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3165[21:52:26] <mallozup> i found some issues, like broken-links
on the wiki
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3166[21:52:54] <mallozup> and for the howtopackage, there was not
an upd2date wiki, imho. what do you think=
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3167[21:53:33] <greycat> I think I'd better not respond lest
I become extremely angry.
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3170[21:54:15] <mallozup> greycat, sorry, what is your point?
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3172[21:54:39] <mallozup> is this a valid response? menacing to
becoming angry?
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3173[21:55:02] <mallozup> ok, sorry i had a good intention, and i
got menaced
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3174[21:55:05] <greycat> *plonk*
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3206[22:10:39] <toad_> upgrading openjdk-7-doc hangs forever ...
known bug? I'm trying to remove it but it says reinstall it
first
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3208[22:11:23] <toad_> on stable (!)
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3214[22:12:07] <toad_> could this be a problem with my system?
there's nothing obvious in dmesg
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3217[22:12:37] <jhutchins_wk> toad_: What that indicates is that
the install did not get far enough for the pre-delete scripts to
run.
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3218[22:12:49] <jhutchins_wk> toad_: No, not a known bug.
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3220[22:13:16] <toad_> it hangs in unpacking, so i guess that
fits...
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3227[22:15:06] <toad_> hmmm, it seems to be making progress in
that it's moving on from one file to the next in /proc ...
maybe I was too impatient and then it failed when the ssh connection
went down...
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3228[22:15:11] <jhutchins_wk> toad_: There's a -reinstall
option.
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3229[22:15:33] <toad_> suggests i may be having major disk i/o
issues, but there is other stuff running that might explain that
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3230[22:15:40] <jhutchins_wk> toad_: If your connection
isn't stable run things like that in screen (or tmux or nohup).
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3231[22:15:44] <toad_> yeah, i am doing apt-get --reinstall ...
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3232[22:16:03] <toad_> yeah i was using autossh but that appears
not to be sufficient, should use screen instead
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3234[22:16:31] <toad_> it finished. hmmm, how strange. oh well,
thanks for your help :)
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3236[22:16:42] <toad_> 99% of support cases :|
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3237[22:17:15] <jhutchins_wk> I was called out on a $300
emergency call once for a monitor that wasn't plugged in.
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3239[22:17:28] <toad_> :)
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3241[22:17:55] <toad_> my sources tell me that a major
corporation employs roaming people to replug USB connections :)
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3243[22:18:12] <ryouma> glue
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3244[22:18:24] <toad_> probably a better solution :)
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3246[22:18:55] <toad_> I take it there is no real progress
towards officially packaging mythtv?
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3251[22:19:23] <jhutchins_wk> toad_: I gather it's morphed
into a different project.
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3253[22:19:35] <toad_> hmmm?
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3254[22:19:36] <jhutchins_wk> Plex?
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3263[22:21:10] <jhutchins_wk> toad_: Well, no, things have
changed again.
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3274[22:27:44] <jhutchins_wk> ,v xbmc
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3275[22:27:45] <judd> Package: xbmc on amd64 -- wheezy:
2:11.0~git20120510.82388d5-1; wheezy-backports:
2:13.2+dfsg1-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:13.2+dfsg1-4; stretch:
2:17.1+dfsg1-2; sid: 2:17.1+dfsg1-2; wheezy-multimedia:
4:12.3.1-dmo2; sid-multimedia: 5:14.2; jessie-multimedia: 5:14.2
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3278[22:28:31] <jhutchins_wk> toad_: There's a mythtv plugin
for that.
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3280[22:29:10] <toad_> for kodi? i thought it was a
replacement/competitor?
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3281[22:29:26] <Brigo> jhutchins_wk, i think xbmc now is calling
kodi
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3282[22:29:47] <missmbob> yep, it's kodi
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3284[22:30:22] <jhutchins_wk> Well, there are a bunch of xbmc
packages in Jessie...
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3286[22:30:46] <toad_> and no reasonable way to migrate existing
content/preferences
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3287[22:30:49] <random_numbers> Isn't kodi just a
pre-packaged xmbc?
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3288[22:30:51] <jhutchins_wk> Aptitude doesn't find anything
for kodi
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3289[22:31:07] <toad_> however there are packaging scripts for
mythtv
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3291[22:31:14] <random_numbers>
replaced-url
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3293[22:31:24] <missmbob> ,i kodi-data
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3294[22:31:25] <judd> No package named 'kodi-data' was
found in jessie/amd64.
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3296[22:31:33] <jhutchins_wk> kodi is probably what I was
thinking about rather than plex.
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3297[22:31:40] <missmbob> i show it in stretch
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3298[22:31:47] <toad_> cool
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3301[22:32:12] <toad_> does it have multirec support? (multiple
programs simultaneously/overlapping from the same DVB multiplex)
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3305[22:32:30] <bergur> #debian
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3306[22:32:33] <toad_> sorry
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3307[22:32:35] <bergur> snackbar
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3310[22:33:53] <jhutchins_wk> toad_: AFIK if you want parallel
recording you need multiple tuners.
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3311[22:34:02] <toad_> what's snackbar?
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3319[22:36:47] <teraflops> toad_: kodi does nothing but frontend,
you want something like tvheadend
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3322[22:36:57] <teraflops> tvheadend is just awesome
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3329[22:39:24] <teraflops> I dont think you can record more than
one source at a time (talking about dvb-t) unless you have more then
one tunner
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3330[22:39:39] <teraflops> than*
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3340[22:41:54] <bergur> hello
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3352[22:44:04] <jolt> dpkg: answer
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3353[22:44:04] <dpkg> You often get no answer when nobody knows
how to solve a problem, and they decide not to bother you with their
ignorance; it is not meant as disrespect. Also: Did you include
enough information in your question to make it answerable? (see
<smart questions>)
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3365[22:50:51] <ForceRecon> do you think debian err.. linux is on
its own as good as windows can be with isolation and
compartmentalization in a vm or sandbox?
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3370[22:52:03] <jhutchins_wk> ForceRecon: Not sure what
you're asking. "good".
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3371[22:52:04] <missmbob> have you heard of wannacry?
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3372[22:52:22] <ForceRecon> of course.. yes
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3374[22:52:44] <missmbob> then i dont know why you're asking
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3375[22:53:17] <ForceRecon> you would affect the OS if you ran
your browser in a sandbox
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3376[22:53:30] <ForceRecon> so what does wannacry have to do with
that or am I missing something here
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3378[22:53:50] <missmbob> it affects a bug in an antivirus which
is sandboxed.
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3379[22:54:49] <missmbob> windows "sandbox" is cute
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3381[22:56:39] <ForceRecon> sandboxing in windows is a fantastic
way to keep your internet activities away from your actual os.. you
are going to make me go read now as i did not hear about access to
the OS through a sandboxed PC utilizing a bug in some antirus
software
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3382[22:56:44] <ForceRecon> are you sure?
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3383[22:57:16] <missmbob> then you havent read about wannycry
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3385[22:58:02] <missmbob> i really dont care if you believe me or
not, though. nor is this the place to have such discussion. you can
try #debian-offtopic
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3386[22:58:05] <koollman> missmbob: well ... no. it does not.
it's a smb bug. maybe you're thinking about an other one ?
(there was one on windows defender and nscript which was very nasty)
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3390[22:58:36] <hanm> hi
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3391[22:58:43] <hanm> for some reason when i blacklist xhci_hcd
driver, i get ATA errors "[ 51.471471] ata1.00: failed command:
WRITE FPDMA QUEUED"
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3392[22:58:49] <hanm> any idea why?
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3394[22:59:06] <hanm> this makes me think i have a USB storage
device attached in my laptop but i dont THINk thats the case
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