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2[00:00:13] <karlpinc> michael2: Understood. (Which is why I
give up. :) Perhaps I'll use 'stow' or something to
keep things sane.
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5[00:00:33] <michael2> karlpinc: you can get it in on line:
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6[00:00:51] <fareast> ok
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7[00:01:05] <karlpinc> michael2: I see there's a tar
file. I assume I compile and install it.
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9[00:01:54] <michael2> karlpinc: curl -L
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10[00:02:08] <rob_debian> one question: why when I download
youtube files separately I have option to download all of them in
.mp4 format, but when I download them as a part of the playlist
where they are taking place ?
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11[00:03:10] <michael2> karlpinc: that will give you youtube-dl
- then remove .deb package to prevent conflict - note: this is prob
not debian official recommended way
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12[00:03:18] <Brigo> karlpinc, which one do you need?
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13[00:03:21] <michael2> but it is distro portable
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14[00:04:06] <michael2> Brigo: the answer to that question is
pretty much always "the very latest"
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15[00:05:03] <karlpinc> michael2: I see. It's python. What
is it that you actually get? I thought python needed a virtual
environment to hold dependencies for any program of size.
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19[00:05:50] <michael2> karlpinc: nah, its a standalone
executable script. you only need that file.
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21[00:06:33] <karlpinc> michael2: For a single /usr/local/bin/
program I don't need "the debian way". Especially
because it will become useless and dated pretty much instantly so I
may as well delete after use. :)
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22[00:06:37] <michael2> karlpinc: you will need to update
manually - but as you've learned - this is just something that
you'll just likely have to live with
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27[00:07:41] <Brigo> i prefer my local programs away of /usr. I
use to save them in /opt.
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32[00:09:05] <michael2> somiaj: would it be worthwhile for
fareast to get the firmware from the HP website - would that be
newer than debians packaged firmware?
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35[00:09:32] <karlpinc> michael2: (that's the wrong url. I
get a web page. I'll get the url from the github readme.)
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36[00:10:01] <fareast> ok i have non free installed
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37[00:10:07] <fareast> I have that much done so far
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38[00:10:07] <debron> guys, Is there some way to make a windows
bootable usb from debian? Is it possible to just copy the ISO with
cp /dev/sdX?
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41[00:11:17] <michael2> karlpinc: you're right, sorry the
correct url is:
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42[00:11:19] <michael2>
replaced-url
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44[00:12:01] <rob_debian> michael2, please, in this case,
should I have to compile 'youtube-dl' in order to have the
latest version ?
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46[00:12:20] <rob_debian> shoud I use it ?
replaced-url
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50[00:13:41] <michael2> rob_debian: you dont compile a python
script - the first line should say some thing like:
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51[00:13:55] <karlpinc> michael2: I still get the same error.
But the url I'm using is one of those "short ones"
(see above) and old. So maybe it expired or something.
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52[00:13:57] <michael2> #!/usr/bin/python
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53[00:13:58] <fareast> ok intel firmware installed
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55[00:14:25] <fareast> somiaj: what now?
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56[00:14:29] <fareast> reboot?
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57[00:14:31] <ayee> I haven't setup a startup script in
awhile. In the old days init v was pretty simple. I'm on debian
9, with crazy systemd stuff. I just want to execute some script
_before_ nginx starts. Is there a guide on how to execute a script
on startup, and find out if it runs before another startup script?
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58[00:14:33] <michael2> fareast: how did you install firmware -
from HP site - or through apt repo?
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59[00:14:38] <fareast> apt
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60[00:14:45] <fareast> hp only has windows 10 drivers
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61[00:14:56] <fareast> I know of ndiswrapper but does that work
for debian?
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62[00:15:01] <karlpinc> fareast: Eventually you're going
to want to reboot to make sure it loads properly. So I suppose it
wouldn't hurt.
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63[00:15:07] <rob_debian> I see, michael2, thanks for
information !
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64[00:15:08] <michael2> ayee: you need to add
"Before" in your unit file
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65[00:15:09] <fareast> ok here we go
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66[00:15:12] <fareast> thanks guys
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68[00:15:29] <ayee> michael2: unit file is some special systemd
file?
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69[00:15:50] <michael2> karlpinc: so your you're running
latest youtube-dl? what version?
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70[00:16:08] <bites> you can also use pip to install
youtube-dl, which makes it easier to keep updated.
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71[00:16:17] <karlpinc> michael2: 2018.05.01
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72[00:16:25] <michael2> ayee: yes, its the generic
module/component that systemd controls
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73[00:16:31] <karlpinc> bites: I like that idea.
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74[00:17:17] <bites> but the binary gets installed to
~/.local/bin so it's not in your $PATH automatically.
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76[00:17:21] <ayee> michael2: where is the file?
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77[00:18:14] <michael2> ayee: you need to create it
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78[00:18:16] <karlpinc> ayee: It'd be a file you put in
/etc/systemd/system/. But after that I always have to read "man
systemd.unit". There's a whole giant learning curve.
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79[00:18:30] <michael2> ayee: in /etc/systemd/system/.
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80[00:18:49] <karlpinc> ayee: Don't forget the
"systemctl daemon-reload".
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81[00:19:00] <karlpinc> bites: I can put it in a venv if I
want.
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82[00:19:11] <bites> yes, or that.
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85[00:22:46] <karlpinc> ayee: And "systemctl enable
foo" (If not also "systemctl start foo".)
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88[00:23:11] <fareast> ok its working
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89[00:23:20] <fareast> at least for 100mbit down over 5g
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90[00:23:22] <fareast> so that should be good for now
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91[00:23:46] <ayee> thanks for the tips, I'll dig into
this and see if I can get it working.
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92[00:23:55] <fareast> I am running the new gnome on here it
seems pretty good on hidpi laptop 14 inch
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93[00:24:10] <michael2> karlpinc: yeah managing through pip
prob a good idea if you have pip installed. regarding systemd, can
you make a unit file to just fire a one time command? rather than
start a daemon?
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98[00:24:40] <michael2> fareast: so your wifi up and running?
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99[00:24:44] <fareast> yeah
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100[00:24:46] <fareast> I am on wifi
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101[00:24:54] <michael2> nice
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102[00:24:55] <fareast> I am a tech
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103[00:25:06] <fareast> so I can get stuff working with some
help you know.
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104[00:25:17] <michael2> yeah, didn't take you long to get
it working - nice job
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105[00:25:22] <bites> michael2: that's the service type
oneshot.
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106[00:25:23] <fareast> thanks
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107[00:25:27] <fareast> oh yeah
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108[00:25:51] <fareast> except I am color blind I always have 1
wire i mess up with the wh br wh gr at least
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109[00:26:01] <fareast> lol
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113[00:26:41] <fareast> teamwork is dreamwork.
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117[00:28:55] <michael2> bites: thanks
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119[00:29:53] <michael2> anyone know the command to print out
all man pages whose name contains pattern? e.g. something like `man
--title '*systemd*' ?
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120[00:30:25] <karlpinc> michael2: man -k systemd is usually the
best way for searching man stuff
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121[00:30:42] <karlpinc> michael2: You can always pipe to grep
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124[00:31:38] <michael2> karlpinc: isn't that apropos? that
searches something else in the contents? not the titles, right?
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126[00:32:05] <karlpinc> michael2: Yes, it is apropos. I forget.
But you can grep to filter the titles.
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127[00:32:08] <michael2> I never worked out what exactly apropos
is searching, is it tags?
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132[00:36:37] <arzak> hi
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133[00:36:55] <rob_debian> please, what's the channel
that's focused on debian running under android ? or should be
android running under debian ?
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164[00:53:07] <Heston> hellos, just curious why I'm still
getting updates for wheezy after it's now EOL? Not that
I'm complaining, just wondering
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170[00:57:22] <michael2> I thought updates fall back to a
"best effort" basis when a release goes EOL
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171[00:58:27] <Heston> i got you, makes sense
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280[01:17:59] <fareast> is there a way to delete menu entries
from the bios bcd menu
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286[01:19:07] <epergny> I've got a somewhat silly question:
I keep notes of "admin" stuff I did, like packages I
needed to install to be able to compile Emacs from source on, say,
Debian version x.y.z. Like this:
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289[01:19:20] <epergny> (just one line, won't spam)
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295[01:19:38] <epergny> apt-get install autoconf build-essential
xorg-dev libtinfo5 libgif-dev libtiff-dev libpng12-dev libpng3
libtiff5 libtiff5-dev libgif-dev libgif4 ...
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301[01:20:34] <epergny> with more packages than that... But then
issue is: when I install a new Debian, like 9.4.0 just now, I try
this line and many package gives: "E: Unable to locate package
libpng13-dev". Stupid question: how do find what's the
"new name" of that package?
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303[01:20:58] <michael2> epergny: did you update apt local
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304[01:21:27] <epergny> michael2: it's on a brand new
install, using notes I took from an older Debian version
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307[01:21:47] <fareast> is efibootmgr available with debian?
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317[01:22:43] <epergny> Basically my notes are
"outdated" because package numbering was updated and I get
lots of: "Unable to locate package libpng3", "Unable
to locate package libgif4", ...
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320[01:23:02] <epergny> which make me question if taking notes
even makes sense
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324[01:23:38] <michael2> epergny: ok, can you use an aptitude
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333[01:24:57] <epergny> michael2: I'm using apt from the
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334[01:25:01] <michael2> like aptitude install
'libgif?' - which might match multiple package (including
the old ones) but then apt-cache policy should only install latest
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337[01:26:05] <epergny> michael2: oh ok, because I was trying:
"apt-get install libpng1?-dev" but I don't think
that's correct globbing there
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339[01:26:18] <michael2> epergny: maybe apt has pattern matches
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346[01:28:23] <epergny> michael2: ok, this should get me started
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347[01:28:43] <michael2> epergny: I think `?' means
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424[02:23:32] <ayee> I'm mirroring a debian repo, with this
command: `debmirror -i18n --method=rsync --progress
--host=rsync.osuosl.org --arch=amd64 --dist=stretch-updates
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428[02:26:51] <meatmanek> how long does it usually take after
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434[02:30:44] <c-c> *tup*
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something goes wrong, you try everything and that fails then you do
something else and boom it works again LOL
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446[02:45:27] <rpifan> more like read hundreds of google results
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462[02:54:56] <UnsaneVirusez> Hello, my pulse audio sound sytem
works in debian, but I try to use hydrogen linux drum kit and I get
no sound, I try all the sound outputs
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464[02:58:37] <UnsaneVirusez> Any idea what to do?
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468[03:00:51] <somiaj> what is hydrogen linux? Is it something
you installed from debian repos or something else?
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469[03:01:57] <somiaj> UnsaneVirusez: are you using the package
'hydrogen' in debian, or installing this some other way?
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487[03:03:46] <c-c> somiaj: its a music program
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493[03:03:57] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: do you use jack?
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499[03:04:11] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: basically most ppl either use
pulseaudio or jack
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501[03:04:25] <somiaj> c-c: yea I see that now. Thanks.
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504[03:04:38] <rpifan> speaking of issues i had a dpkg deb that
i couldnt get to run and now everytime i do apt update it keeps
showing hte package, how do i remove it from the list
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505[03:04:48] <UnsaneVirusez> Using distro package, and sound
works, etc. and I do not use jack but pavucontrol and pulseaudio and
I have alsa installed too I think it does alsa automaticaly. I tried
to switch between various sound systems offered in hydrogen and
restarted and sound system/apps and still no luck.
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506[03:04:51] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: if you use jack for your
audio routing, you will need to connect the hydrogen to audio out in
jack patch bay/mixer
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507[03:05:04] <somiaj> rpifan: dpkg -r packagename or dpkg
--purge packagename.
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508[03:05:20] <somiaj> rpifan: or just run apt -f install, it
should try to fixt that, and sometimes the fix is to remove it
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509[03:05:24] <UnsaneVirusez> ,v hydrogen
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510[03:05:25] <judd> Package: hydrogen on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.9.6~beta2-1; jessie: 0.9.6.1-1; stretch: 0.9.7-1+b1; buster:
0.9.7-6; sid: 0.9.7-6
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512[03:05:38] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: and you have loaded samples
in hydrogen, that should be audible?
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514[03:05:44] <UnsaneVirusez> yes
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515[03:05:49] <UnsaneVirusez> drum kits are loaded
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516[03:06:01] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: and you have something
triggering the playback of the samples?
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517[03:06:16] <UnsaneVirusez> Hang on
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518[03:06:19] <UnsaneVirusez> you may have something here pal
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520[03:06:29] <UnsaneVirusez> So, I loaded up a default demo
that shipped with hydrogen
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521[03:06:31] <UnsaneVirusez> I got sound!
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522[03:06:50] <UnsaneVirusez> I think that the kit my old files
are using are may not be compatible with the new kits? I don't
know.
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523[03:06:52] <c-c> Ok so its playing back something, just
checking
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524[03:06:58] <UnsaneVirusez> I got no sound on my audio
.h2songs
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527[03:07:30] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: what do you have in yur audio
system preferences?
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528[03:07:32] <UnsaneVirusez> I can click the kit and get
individual sounds from sampled instruments
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529[03:07:44] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: do you hear those?
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531[03:07:48] <UnsaneVirusez> So hydrogen sound works, yay.
It's not a problem with config.
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533[03:07:54] <c-c> ok
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534[03:08:09] <c-c> so its just a quiet song or part (pattern)
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535[03:08:24] <c-c> Good luck!
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536[03:08:34] <UnsaneVirusez> The problem is now this, when I
load my .h2song files into hydrogen, (pre made drum loops I created
circa 2008 in debian), those files load up fine, play fine, but give
me no sound, which leads me to believe it's a problem with some
kind of drum kit config.
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538[03:09:16] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: if you load that song, and
then try to trig the individual kit sounds, is there a sound?
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539[03:09:31] <UnsaneVirusez> Ohh, I see now, I think I figure
it out.
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540[03:09:45] <UnsaneVirusez> When I load my h2song files into
hydrogen, every single instrument is muted out. I didn't notice
this first.
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541[03:09:47] <UnsaneVirusez> That's odd.
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542[03:09:50] * c-c guesses the file paths for the kit sample files
are not correct
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543[03:10:16] <c-c> oh, ok, the classic muted - sometimes its
"empty channel solo'ed", too
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545[03:10:26] <UnsaneVirusez> No, that's not it. Good idea
though, but no. Instruments are muted by default when I load my old
files, but they are not muted when I load a default sample shipped
with hydrogen (sample song)
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551[03:12:27] <UnsaneVirusez> Alright, I umuted all instruments,
and i still have no sound on my .h2song files
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552[03:12:40] <michael2> the netinstaller USB I created has a
weird sector numbering:
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553[03:12:51] <michael2>
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557[03:13:41] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: does loading a song change
the audio out settings in hydrogen?
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559[03:14:00] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: in other words, do you hear
the individual samples
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560[03:14:31] <michael2> I thought partitions need to occupy
sequential numbers? i.e. if partition 1 occupies sectors 1 thru
2500, then partition 2 can only start at sector 2501?
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561[03:14:35] <c-c> Audio out - or, Audio system, UnsaneVirusez
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562[03:14:39] <somiaj> michael2: how did you create the usb?
(and note the hybrid iso images are just weird, they have a complex
partition table that works both legacy and efi, and also being cd
and usb boot.
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564[03:14:44] <UnsaneVirusez> c-c: it does not
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566[03:14:53] <UnsaneVirusez> c-c: audio settings remain same
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567[03:15:17] <UnsaneVirusez> c-c: I do not hear the individual
samples when I click them after loading my song, but I do hear them
when I load the demo songs
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568[03:15:34] <michael2> somiaj: using dd
if=debian.netinstaller.iso of=/dev/sdb
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569[03:15:40] <somiaj> michael2: yea, then that is normal.
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571[03:16:09] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: ok try this - 1. load your
song. 2. load a demo sample into one of the kit samples used in your
song. 3. test if audible?
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572[03:16:28] <UnsaneVirusez> c-c: one of my songs works. One of
them doesn't, it seems each song loads a kit. I'll go over
seach .h2song file, think they are xml files and comare them to the
demo songs
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573[03:16:29] <michael2> somiaj: normal for disk partitioning in
general - or normal for these weird hybrid iso things?
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575[03:16:42] <somiaj> michael2: normal for the debian hybrid
iso images
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576[03:16:44] <UnsaneVirusez> See what' different. Wrose
come to worse, I'll just have to remake my samples again, which
is not that bad.
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577[03:17:01] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: have you been using hydrogen
a lot?
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578[03:17:06] <UnsaneVirusez> for years.
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580[03:17:11] <UnsaneVirusez> But haven't in years.
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582[03:17:19] <UnsaneVirusez> I've been using hydrogen
since 2008 or before.
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583[03:17:29] <michael2> somiaj: ok thanks
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584[03:17:54] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: I haven't tested it in
years.. I wonder if I should
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585[03:18:10] <c-c> Its probably still pattern based and I like
audio track based
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588[03:19:02] <UnsaneVirusez> c-c:
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589[03:19:28] <UnsaneVirusez>
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591[03:20:12] <UnsaneVirusez> my exact version of hydrogen is:
Setting up hydrogen (0.9.7-6)
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592[03:20:12] <rpifan> well its missing kernel headers but its
not relevant at this moment anymore
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595[03:20:35] <UnsaneVirusez> c-c: if you feel up to it,
here's some time pass stuff.
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597[03:21:04] <UnsaneVirusez> Debian testing/ updated just
recently today, hydrogen 0.9.7-6
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598[03:21:07] <c-c> yeah I have to start making coffee
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599[03:21:14] <c-c> 8)
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600[03:21:21] <UnsaneVirusez> np. I'll keep digging, thanks
for the time
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602[03:21:49] <c-c> yeah maybe just re-load the samples one by
one in hydrogen would be easisest
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603[03:21:51] <rpifan> but purge worked
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613[03:26:36] <c-c> UnsaneVirusez: if you gist the xml I can
have a look in 5 mins, after I make the coffee
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644[03:50:08] <michael2> does anyone know where in the debian
docs the info on all the uefi, secure boot and all that stuff is?
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645[03:51:12] <c-c> here?`replaced-url
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647[03:52:12] <michael2> c-c: thanks
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648[03:52:24] <michael2> Im trying to find what "EFI"
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662[04:01:07] <UnsaneVirusez> well trying and doing are not the
same thing
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664[04:01:20] <UnsaneVirusez> he's trying to find out. when
he's done trying he's actually gonna go find out. np
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748[05:08:28] <fareast> superblock mount time messed up
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749[05:08:41] <fareast> People saying this is windows 10 dual
boot issue
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750[05:08:52] <fareast> something about a registry fix and a fix
on ntp
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751[05:08:55] <fareast> servers....
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752[05:09:01] <fareast> anyone else have the guide to the fix?
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754[05:11:10] <_|||||||_> dual boot usually goes better if you
install linux after. <- If that's the other OS
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757[05:12:55] <fareast> well this all just happened when i
started installing multiple linux installs after linux
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759[05:13:25] <fareast> I did a su bcd edit and deleted some
entries that were appearing
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760[05:13:34] <fareast> but debian was installed after linux
that is for sure
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761[05:13:39] <fareast> and it has booted many times.
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763[05:14:03] <fareast> debian after windows
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765[05:14:21] <awal1> fareast, my suggestion will make you have
correct time in linux and kick off that "warning" but
wrong in windows : as root run "timedatectl set-local-rtc
0" and reboot
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766[05:14:42] <_|||||||_> grub should take care of that
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769[05:15:01] <fareast> what a freakin headache
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771[05:15:21] <_|||||||_> if you have multiple OS
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772[05:15:24] <awal1> my suggestion should help
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773[05:15:32] <fareast> I am sure it will
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774[05:15:35] <fareast> I read it online already
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775[05:16:07] <awal1> nothing is sure; even 1+1 is not really =
2 :D
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776[05:16:13] <_|||||||_> Im not sure what the issue is cause I
just got here
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777[05:16:28] <fareast> I am loosing interest in windows that is
the problem
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779[05:17:00] <awal1> man timedatectl
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780[05:17:07] <_|||||||_> win 10 is blahh
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784[05:20:14] <_|||||||_> cactus?
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785[05:20:22] <_|||||||_> 'cactus!
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786[05:20:48] <fareast> _|||||||_, its ugly as shit
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787[05:20:58] <_|||||||_> thanks
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788[05:21:00] <_|||||||_> lol
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789[05:21:17] <fareast> windows
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790[05:21:28] <_|||||||_> oh lol
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791[05:21:52] <_|||||||_> I thought you meant _|||||||_
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792[05:21:56] <fareast> I am so tired been dealing with the 1803
updates all day and running network audits
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793[05:22:33] <_|||||||_> sound like a fun filled day
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794[05:22:42] <fareast> computers are really the last thing I
want to do right now I programmed some door locks and even did some
hotel manager tasks today
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795[05:23:05] <_|||||||_> I love computers
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797[05:23:19] <fareast> they are good when teamwork is dreamwork
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798[05:23:30] <_|||||||_> lol yes?
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799[05:23:32] <fareast> but sometimes I feel like I am the only
one working...
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801[05:23:38] <_|||||||_> oh like that
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803[05:23:47] <_|||||||_> that sux
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805[05:24:11] <fareast> yeah well its bad when its 80 degrees
and you are deciding on driving to get something to eat when
normally people would be open ina tourist area
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806[05:24:15] <_|||||||_> people will be people
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809[05:24:46] <fareast> I am sitting looking at all these hungry
workers with nothing open around me.
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810[05:25:29] <fareast> I just don't understand how you
could spit and hit someone but you can't find a open place to
eat.
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811[05:26:02] <_|||||||_> got to go cyah
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838[05:51:44] <simbalion> Is it possible to target an X server
with a crontab task? I want to set feh to change my wallpaper every
5 minutes but it complains it can't find the X-server. Works
fine from a terminal of course
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848[06:02:15] <Torr> it should be if you set your environment
properly and set the cron job to run as the same user that is logged
into the screen
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849[06:03:16] <Torr> i.e. export DISPLAY=:1
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858[06:07:08] <somiaj> simbalion: I wouldn't use cron for
that, what wm do you have?
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862[06:10:00] <nprs> is there an easier way to edit
/etc/network/interfaces from the shell besides with vi? I'm
finding vi rather difficult to use.
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865[06:11:06] <somiaj> nprs: use any editor you like. I find vim
a bit nicer than vi (which is really vim-tiny), some like nano, it
should also be installed by default.
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866[06:11:14] <somiaj> there is emacs, and I'm sure a
handfull of other editors
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867[06:11:37] <simbalion> somiaj: openbox
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869[06:11:49] <simbalion> Torr: will that work for both screens?
I will test
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871[06:12:59] <c-c> in fact, most of the time vi will actually
be Vim on your system
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872[06:13:23] <somiaj> simbalion: you may want to see if openbox
has a way to run peridoic tasks, you could also do this as a simple
script launched by openbox (this way it is attached to your openbox
xsession and not cron)
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873[06:13:29] <nprs> Thanks I will see if this machine has any
of those installed.
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874[06:13:35] <c-c> nprs: nano is simple
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875[06:13:55] <somiaj> and should be installed
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878[06:15:53] <somiaj> simbalion: I'm not seeing any
openbox feature for this, but I would just tell openbox to launch a
shell script inthe background that just loops with a sleep in it
over cron.
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880[06:16:44] <simbalion> I would really rather use cron for it
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881[06:16:47] <simbalion> that's what cron is for
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883[06:18:21] <simbalion> tried adding export DISPLAY=:1 to the
script but that didn't fix it :/
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884[06:18:42] <somiaj> you need a full enviorment, and I think
that is what your wm is for. (:
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885[06:18:50] <simbalion> oh wait it should be :0 I think
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886[06:18:58] <Torr> when you're logged into a shell, do
'echo $DISPLAY' and put the result in your script
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888[06:19:12] <simbalion> trying now
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889[06:19:19] <Torr> if you have more than one monitor on the
same desktop, then yes, it should work on all attach displays
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891[06:19:56] <simbalion> I do
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892[06:20:19] <simbalion> welp... tick happened but script
didn't work
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893[06:20:22] <simbalion> works in term
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895[06:20:36] <simbalion> doesn't work in a F1 console
either, fwiw
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897[06:21:29] <Torr> hrm... are you using xorg or wayland?
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898[06:21:44] <simbalion> xorg
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899[06:22:03] <simbalion> still waiting for wayland support for
nvidia I think heh
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901[06:22:43] <Torr> you might need to use xhost to give
permissions to cron
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903[06:23:07] <Torr> and also export XAUTHORITY
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905[06:23:15] <simbalion> I don't know what either of those
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907[06:23:58] <Torr> maybe try "* * * * * DISPLAY=:0
XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority screensaver-command"
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919[06:29:18] <Tom-_> i think you need $HOME/.Xauthority when
you're setting environment variables or might not be using bash
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920[06:30:31] <nprs> Thanks guys I found nano much simpler to
use.
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921[06:32:02] <c-c> nprs: should work, for programming neovim is
superior
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923[06:32:47] <nprs> I just needed to get wireless working. I
would have normally used scp but there is no ethernet port.
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925[06:33:15] <nprs> I should really spend some time learning
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926[06:34:30] <Torr> yeah, what kind of idiot through it was
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927[06:34:37] <Torr> thought
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928[06:34:45] <c-c> nprs: One superior editor (usually vim) can
20x your edit speed
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930[06:35:56] <c-c> nprs: if your work involves
editing/programming/writing, there is definite payback in terms of
speedup
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938[06:39:55] <Torr> simbalion, sorry
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958[06:44:26] <Torr> np
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959[06:44:54] <Torr> there are probably tricks, but xorg has
changed over the past 15 or so years since I was trying to do stuff
like this
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964[06:47:00] <simbalion> I saw a page about ubuntu and gdm that
suggested xauthority isn't used anymore but I dunno if that
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969[06:51:34] <aloo_shu> braaaavo
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973[06:51:52] <aloo_shu> anyway ,why is it that on a 1280x800
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2x2, the mouse pointer stays confined to the upper left quarter, but
if I add a --panning 2560x1600, becomes unblocked?
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976[06:52:59] <aloo_shu> ahh, sry, my bad, different server ,
that #debian-next
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978[06:53:50] <aloo_shu> let's assume my question
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1027[07:51:09] <Lux_> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Debian
buster/sid • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6850K CPU @ 3.60GHz
(3.60GHz) • Memory: Physical: 8.6 GiB Total (1.0 GiB Free)
Swap: 8.8 GiB Total (471.2 MiB Free) • Storage: 20.7 GB / 37.2
GB (16.4 GB Free) • VGA: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox
Graphics Adapter @ Intel Corporation 440FX - 82441FX PMC [Natoma]
• Uptime: 2w 1d 17h 41m 24s
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1092[08:25:34] <han-solo> hello
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1133[08:45:24] <judd> Package: python on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.7.3-4+deb7u1; jessie: 2.7.9-1; stretch: 2.7.13-2; buster:
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docs are not getting indexed by google
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1164[08:58:47] <Heston> ,v python3.6
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1165[08:58:48] <judd> Package: python3.6 on amd64 -- buster:
3.6.5~rc1-1; sid: 3.6.5-5
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1166[08:59:23] <Heston> ,check-backport python3.6
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1167[08:59:24] <judd> Backporting package python3.6 in
sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
stretch.
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1172[09:01:29] <michael2> can anyone point me in the direction of
how to file bug reports or "enhancement/suggestions"
related to the debian.org website?
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1174[09:03:50] <jelly> michael2: file a bug report against a
package named "replaced-url
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1178[09:04:34] <jelly>
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1183[09:05:33] <michael2> jelly: thanks there is also some advice
here:
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1184[09:05:39] <michael2>
replaced-url
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1187[09:06:04] <michael2> o report a problem with the web site,
e-mail our publicly archived mailing list debian-replaced-url
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1192[09:07:58] <jelly> that's also a good option probably
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1195[09:09:22] <michael2> I noticed some pages of debian.org docs
are not being fetched by google. I wonder if the website devs will
care about that?
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1218[09:27:57] <lilp> Hello, since this morning I can't
login into lightdm with my regular user, root login works. I try
passwd, and delete .Xauthority, but still not login. tty1 login
works.
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1223[09:30:52] <babilen_> What changed in the interim?
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1227[09:31:42] <lilp> in the interim?
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1237[09:35:41] <alkisg> lilp: if you create a new user, does it
work with that?
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1270[09:52:39] <lilp> I test with a new user and it's works
also.
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1283[10:00:28] <alkisg> lilp: then it sounds like a problem with
your account. Do you have any files owned by root, where the user
wouldn't be able to write? Login from vt2 as the user, and run:
find . -uid 0
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1299[10:09:58] <dionysus69> if I move main partition with
gparted, it will not make system unbootable right?
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1306[10:13:17] <epsilon> linux is robust in these things... if
unsure make a disk image with dd or clonezilla
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1307[10:15:24] <k_sze[work]> In Debian (or any Linux distro,
really), is it possible to somehow isolate an GeForce GTX Titan X
card and have coexisting, different versions of graphics drivers?
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1310[10:16:26] <k_sze[work]> I have a server with 3 identical
GeForce GTX Titan X cards, and I want to try upgrading the drivers
without breaking everything.
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1311[10:16:42] <justinebastian> hello how can I make firefox in
french langage in MX Linux 17.1 ?
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1321[10:22:20] <dionysus69> epsilon: you mean make a backup if
simple gparted move will break the boot?
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1322[10:22:33] <wrksx> hey guys
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1323[10:22:40] <wrksx> just install ufw firewall
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1324[10:22:55] <wrksx> before enabling it i'd like to make
sure i'm not goin to lock me out
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1327[10:23:24] <dionysus69> ufw enable {rule name or port number}
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1328[10:23:33] <wrksx> but I cant find a way to list what ufw
will allow
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1329[10:23:40] <wrksx> I did ufw allow OpenSSH
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1332[10:24:07] <wrksx> but it'd be nice to have a way to
list what's allowed exxactly
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1333[10:24:13] <wrksx> before enableing the firewall
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1335[10:25:00] <epsilon> dionysus69: it's always recommended
to make a backup before performing a change on partitions
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1336[10:25:43] <wrksx> Command may disrupt existing ssh
connections. Proceed with operation (y|n)?
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1337[10:25:55] <epsilon> it's a very short time period
between "uups" and "when did I the last backup"
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1339[10:27:12] <dionysus69> start n now
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1340[10:27:24] <dionysus69> before you start it you need to sudo
ufw allow 22
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1341[10:27:39] <dionysus69> not to disrupt ssh connections wrksx
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1342[10:28:06] <dionysus69> and any other port you need, i.e
webserver
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1346[10:29:45] <wrksx> dionysus69, ok done. Nothing disrupted =)
Had to hold my breath for a second =)
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1347[10:29:56] <dionysus69> cool ^.^
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1349[10:30:21] <wrksx> too bad it's impossible to list the
rules like sudo ufw status does when the firewall is off
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1356[10:33:10] <epsilon> wrksx: to avoid a lockout, you can
create a cronjob to wipe out iptables rules every 5 Minutes
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1360[10:34:34] <dionysus69> wrksx: sudo ufw status -v I think,
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1362[10:35:32] <wrksx> epsilon, oh my god that would have been
such a good security
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1363[10:35:38] <wrksx> didn't thought about this
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1364[10:36:25] <wrksx> epsilon, I'll remember it next time,
seems like a very good idea before enabling the firewall
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1383[10:42:39] <epsilon> wrksx: basically a shellscript with
"iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT", "iptables -F INPUT"
(repeat with OUTPUT and FORWARD). custom chains can be wiped with
iptabes -X
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1389[10:44:25] <slax0r> wiping iptables rules every 5 minutes is
not exactly "security" wrksx :)
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1390[10:44:39] <slax0r> but it prevents accidental lockouts if
you don't have physical access
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1403[10:47:58] <wrksx> dionysus69, ufw show added is great ty
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1405[10:48:27] <wrksx> slax0r, looooool
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1408[10:48:54] <wrksx> slax0r, I think you got the point =) Wipe
it every 5 minutes, test, if ssh works remove the cron an BOOM
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1409[10:48:59] <wrksx> secured
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1412[10:49:41] <wrksx> I've never been loked out while
configuring a firewall, but I've been around someone who did
just that and it seemed painful
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1422[10:54:23] <k_sze[work]> How do I check if OpenGL works on my
Debian server (Jessie, x86_64)?
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1425[10:57:25] <k_sze[work]> e.g. I have these libgl* packages
installed.
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1432[11:01:02] <Ironhand> hi, is there a utility/service that I
can install in Debian to help me manage persistent static routes?
all solutions I find come down to adding 'up' lines to
/etc/network/interfaces, but I'm hoping for a solution that
allows me to reload/update routes from a config file without having
to bring an interface down & up again
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1453[11:07:43] <jolt> Ironhand: Maybe you could use a proper
routing daemon, like quagga or something?
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1454[11:08:22] <jolt> Ironhand: Not my expertise though, I do
mine as you say with interface up, or more advanced routing in the
router
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1456[11:08:55] <jolt> Ironhand: Zebra was probably what I was
thinking about, but it seems to be part of quagga
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1458[11:09:54] <Ironhand> jolt: yeah, Zebra/Quagga was an option
I considered, but it seems major overkill to run a dynamic routing
daemon on every machine where I want to do this, just for static
routes
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1476[11:19:11] <k_sze[work]> My server seems to have nvidia dkms
modules, but I have trouble finding out how exactly they were
installed (the guy who set the server up has already left the
company).
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1480[11:22:08] <Stanley678> browsing on my new debian9 64bit
system is not as fast as when i had debian8 32 bit on this very same
computer. why is that?
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1486[11:23:49] <jelly> k_sze[work]: "dkms status" says
what?
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1488[11:24:29] <k_sze[work]> nvidia, 367.48, 3.16.0-4-amd64,
x86_64: installed
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1489[11:24:36] <voobscout> does anybody know when will
anonscm.debian.org go back up? it's been down for a couple of
days now....
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1492[11:24:57] <jelly> ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms
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1493[11:24:58] <judd> Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 --
wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free:
340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.102-1;
jessie-proposed-updates/non-free: 340.106-1; stretch/non-free:
375.82-1~deb9u1; jessie-backports/non-free: 384.111-4~deb9u1~bpo8+1;
stretch-proposed-updates/non-free: 384.130-1;
stretch-backports/non-free: 390.48-2~bpo9+1; buster/non-free:
390.48-3; sid/non-
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1494[11:24:59] <judd> free: 390.48-3
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1495[11:25:15] <jelly> k_sze[work]: that might be installed from
nvidia installer
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1500[11:25:34] <k_sze[work]> jelly: you mean NVIDIA's .run
thing, right?
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1526[11:36:12] <rootkea> Hello! I'm using Debian Stretch. My
Mumlock key keeps getting off automatically after some time. How do
I prevent that?
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1532[11:37:27] <rootkea> I activate the numlock, type some
numbers. And then after some time when I type numbers again they
don't get printed. Turns out Numlock got off automatically.
Then I have to press Numlock again. Sigh!
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1533[11:37:43] <Haohmaru> weird
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1535[11:37:58] <Haohmaru> does the computer happen to go into
some sleep/suspend during that time?
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1536[11:38:20] <rootkea> Haohmaru: No, all the while I'm
using it.
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1537[11:38:29] <Haohmaru> is it a usb keyboard?
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1538[11:38:53] <rootkea> Haohmaru: No, I am using Dell laptop
with it's keyboard
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1539[11:39:00] <Haohmaru> oh
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1540[11:39:23] * Haohmaru ran out of ideas
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1541[11:39:30] <rootkea> It's okay :)
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1542[11:40:25] <rootkea> Earlier it used to work just fine! And
now I don't remember since when but this weirdness started
happening.
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1545[11:40:48] <Haohmaru> did you install some obscure program
maybe?
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1547[11:41:31] <rootkea> Haohmaru: Oh I installed, purged a lot
of packages but I can't pin-point the time since when this
kicked in
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1548[11:42:02] <Haohmaru> if i were you, i'd plug in an
external keyboard to see if the issue will happen there too
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1549[11:42:42] <rootkea> Haohmaru: Nice idea! Thanks. Though I
don't have one right now but will check for sure.
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1550[11:42:49] <Haohmaru> or run a live debian flash stick (or
other OS) for a while and see if it happens there
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1551[11:42:59] <rootkea> Meanwhile is there some conf file,
command to poke at?
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1553[11:43:48] <Haohmaru> there was some program i installed
additionally to turn ON the numlock before i reach desktop (i added
it into lightdm configs)
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1554[11:43:58] <rootkea> numlockx?
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1555[11:44:02] <Haohmaru> i think so
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1557[11:44:34] <rootkea> Yeah, I dumped it for Xfce's
"Restore num lock state on startup"
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1558[11:44:47] <Haohmaru> oh
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1560[11:45:01] <Haohmaru> that's a built-in functionality of
xfce?
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1561[11:45:07] <rootkea> Yes :)
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1562[11:45:22] <Haohmaru> could it be "fighting" with
numlockx then
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1563[11:45:28] <Haohmaru> (i use lxde)
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1564[11:45:41] <rootkea> But I don't have numlockx
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1565[11:45:57] <Haohmaru> oh, right
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1566[11:46:31] <rootkea> And anyways, all it does is to turn on
the numlock on startup while I'm facing issue while using the
laptop
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1567[11:46:55] <rootkea> RIP grammar!
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1569[11:47:09] <Haohmaru> ;]
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1576[11:48:23] <rootkea> So, guess I should first experiment with
another keyboard and another OS to pinpoint the issue
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1577[11:48:53] <amprxc> Hello, i have a question : i have a
hostapd AP running on a Banana Pi and redirecting all the wlan
trafic to Tor (all is working). But i would like to log (because of
the law) because it's an open AP. The problem is : how to get
the trafic ip destination and log it ?
# thanks
(when i say trafic destination, im talking, of course, about the
first tor node)
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1578[11:49:03] <Haohmaru> yeah, you could try a debian-live (with
xfce or lxde) image and see if it happens then
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1579[11:49:18] <rootkea> Haohmaru: Sure, thanks!
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1583[11:51:05] <amprxc> anyone to help me please ?
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1591[11:52:54] <amprxc> Hello, i have a question : i have a
hostapd AP running on a Banana Pi and redirecting all the wlan
trafic to Tor (all is working). But i would like to log (because of
the law) because it's an open AP. The problem is : how to get
the trafic ip destination and log it ?
# thanks
(when i say trafic destination, im talking, of course, about the
first tor node)
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1595[11:54:31] <rootkea> amprxc: Please don't flood the
channel. Wait for a while. Be patient.
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1596[11:54:39] <amprxc> ok sorry
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1608[12:01:59] <JustASlacker> olla
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1611[12:02:14] <JustASlacker> is there any modern alternative to
jailkit?
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1615[12:05:38] <yakiza> JustASlacker: what you doing in debian
channel ? :O
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1616[12:06:27] <JustASlacker> Slacking around
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1617[12:06:37] <JustASlacker> whats your excise
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1618[12:06:39] <JustASlacker> excuse
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1619[12:06:42] <yakiza> hahahaha best answer ever
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1622[12:07:04] <yakiza> We use Debian as our managed desktop in
the university i work
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1623[12:07:31] <JustASlacker> We have cusomers with debian
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1635[12:13:11] <NetTerminalGene> yakiza, what are you doing with
that?
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1636[12:13:17] <NetTerminalGene> what is managed desktop?
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1637[12:14:40] <yakiza> its the desktop we provide to the
students but we look after it
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1641[12:15:18] <NetTerminalGene> yakiza, how many desktops?
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1643[12:15:45] <yakiza> around 1000
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1646[12:16:42] <NetTerminalGene> yakiza, what version of debian?
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1647[12:16:49] <NetTerminalGene> default desktop?
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1648[12:16:49] <yakiza> NetTerminalGene: Debian 8
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1649[12:16:55] <NetTerminalGene> gnome?
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1650[12:17:20] <yakiza> NetTerminalGene: no we have win 7/10 as
well
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1651[12:17:34] <NetTerminalGene> >.<
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1652[12:17:55] <yakiza> NetTerminalGene: haha well its a
university windows are required
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1656[12:18:26] <NetTerminalGene> rebel university students!
rebel!
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1657[12:18:41] <yakiza> aahahahah
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1660[12:20:31] <NetTerminalGene> yakiza, do they use gnome?
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1670[12:25:16] <amprxc> Hello, i have a question : i have a
hostapd AP running on a Banana Pi and redirecting all the wlan
trafic to Tor (all is working). But i would like to log (because of
the law) because it's an open AP. The problem is : how to get
the trafic ip destination and log it ?
# thanks
(when i say trafic destination, im talking, of course, about the
first tor node)
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1678[12:26:47] <yakiza> NetTerminalGene: mate
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1682[12:28:38] <JustASlacker> any ideas on jailkit?
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1683[12:28:44] <JustASlacker> is that still the way to go
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1749[13:04:35] <henery89> does the blocksize (bs) as specified
for "dd" command directly influence the structure of the
underlying bits on disk? or is the blocksize just a buffer size,
specifying how many bits are written per "turn"?
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1766[13:11:36] <cyber321> hey
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1767[13:12:12] <cyber321> anyone here?
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1769[13:12:26] <cyber321> hey @chachasmooth
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1771[13:13:20] <cyber321> hello world
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1772[13:13:55] <chachasmooth> cyber321 hi, what's up?
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1774[13:14:07] <cyber321> not much, what about you @chachasmooth?
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1776[13:14:50] <cyber321> Have you lot seen ping.gy?
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1783[13:17:31] <safsom2> hello
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1784[13:17:34] <safsom2> debian best distro
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1786[13:18:24] <ejr> ok, so i could somewhat narrow down my
issues in building icecat on debian. it seems to be related to
available RAM space. this is the point where the build process
always gets in a loop:
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1787[13:18:28] <ejr>
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1788[13:18:34] <ejr> how could this be fixed?
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1805[13:29:15] <lilp> I can't connect to debian by gui with
my user. TTy1 & ssh works. I can connect with su, I create a new
user and can connect to gui with it.
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1811[13:30:50] <jelly> ejr: that stuff looks like warnings and
not anything fatal. Are you sure there's a loop, maybe
it's still building stuff?
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1829[13:39:28] <ejr> jelly: you're right, it was no loop, i
just assumed because it ran that for at least 15 times. thanks
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1840[13:44:08] <litb> hello folks
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1843[13:44:44] <litb> if i build a kernel for 686 (32bit) on a
amd64 system, and specify --arch i386, does this make a difference
as opposed to --arch i686 ?
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1844[13:45:02] <litb> because.. the official debian package
contains i686 in its name, but my debian package has i386 in its
name. so i'm confused
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1846[13:45:08] <litb> i use make-kpkg
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1847[13:45:40] <ejr> the errors in the crashreport seem to be
fixable, if I understand what they mean. what exactly does ^~ refer
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1849[13:46:46] <litb> i'm also confused of the version
number... the kernel of debian has version 4.9.0, and i downloaded
that linux-source. but make-kpkg creates a deb file with 4.9.82 in
its name!?
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1858[13:51:44] <jelly> litb: debian kernel has ABI string that
looks like 4.9.0-6-something, but that is not the version of source
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1860[13:51:49] <jelly> !kernel abi
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1861[13:51:49] <dpkg> Debian kernel packages have an <ABI>
to indicate when out-of-tree modules must be rebuilt; upgrading from
a package with 3.2.0-3-amd64 to another 3.2.0-3-amd64 doesn't
require fglrx/nvidia/etc to be rebuilt, but upgrading from
3.2.0-3-amd64 to 3.2.0-4-amd64 does. Development kernels intended
for <experimental> have the ABI <trunk> to indicate the
ABI is unmanaged.
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1865[13:53:04] <litb> thanks, that makes sense
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1866[13:53:04] <noodlepie> I like the speed at which Debian
packages update and install. I use Gentoo on my faster i7 laptop
though which I think is best for newer machines if you want a
perfectly, fully optimized computer.
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1878[13:55:19] <litb> jelly, i suspect i should rebuild with
--arch i686 . wikipedia says i686 started with Pentium Pro. so i386
would be very old and would not contain SSE and the like
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1879[13:55:23] <alx_fly> anybody got the following problem:
gtk-3.so.0.2200.11[7fb7fdb9a000+700000]
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1880[13:55:25] <alx_fly> [ 131.897503] gnome-session-f[1342]:
segfault at 0 ip 00007fe8969b0e19 sp 00007ffec2f7fd10 error 4 in
libgtk-3.so.0.2200.11[7fe8966ce000+700000]
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1882[13:56:10] <jelly> litb: I have no idea what --arch does
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1884[13:56:33] <litb> jelly, it's to select between x86 and
amd64
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1890[14:02:18] <safsom2> what debian version do you guys use?
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1891[14:02:22] <safsom2> stable, testing or sid?
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1892[14:02:35] <safsom2> _systemd_is_evil: nice username
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1913[14:09:23] <FinalX> safsom2: mix of wheezy, jessie and
stretch (and trusty, xenial and bionic for ubuntu). vast majority is
still stuck on jessie (oldstable), still. things that were easy to
upgrade are on stretch :) things that were next to impossible to
upgrade are still wheezy, but are having new versions installed with
stretch and moving stuff over :p
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1919[14:09:40] <abrotman> !polls
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1920[14:09:40] <dpkg> "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is
taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can
answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers
will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>.
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1923[14:10:13] <FinalX> heh :)
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1935[14:16:52] <tw> !bad polls
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1936[14:16:52] <dpkg> The reasons we hate polls are because: 1)
they are a massive waste of IRC and bandwidth and screen real estate
when asked in a 700 person channel. Did you want 700 answers? 2)
They're often a prelude to isolating one helper and barraging
him or her in /msg. BAD! 3) We don't care about Ubuntu, this is
#debian.
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1939[14:17:19] <tw> lol. I wish it continued into really bad
polls.
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1940[14:17:24] <tw> chain rant.
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1991[14:48:07] <Sepultura> are there static libraries inside of
boost debian package?
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1993[14:49:41] <jelly> Sepultura: if there were any , they would
be inside of relevant -dev packages
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1998[14:51:37] <Sepultura> jelly can I make the file portable by
putting the so (dynamic library) in the same folder?
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1999[14:51:45] <Sepultura> like in Windows?
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2001[14:53:50] <jelly> Sepultura: that's not enough,
you'd also have to specify LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable
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/usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1910]: #011(WW) warning, (EE) error,
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2046[15:11:57] <alx_fly> is there a possibilty to reinstall all
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2047[15:11:59] <alx_fly> ?
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2049[15:12:46] <alx_fly> could not figure out what the problem is
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2097[15:36:11] <litb> why does linux-headers depend on libqt5 ?
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2102[15:36:58] <babilen> litb: Which packages exactly?
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2104[15:37:16] <litb> make-kpkg created linux-image-4.9.82
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2105[15:37:27] <litb> sorry, meant linux-headers-4.9.82
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2106[15:37:51] <babilen> There isn't a libqt5 package in
Debian
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2108[15:37:57] <babilen> (hence my question)
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2109[15:38:14] <litb> sorry, more specifically it depends on
libqt5core5a libqt5gui5 libqt5widgets5
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2110[15:38:25] <litb> they are not even developer packages
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2112[15:38:32] <babilen> judd: why linux-headers-4.9.82
libqt5core5a
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2113[15:38:33] <judd> No package named
'linux-headers-4.9.82' was found in stretch/amd64.
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2114[15:38:44] <babilen> heh
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2115[15:38:47] <litb> it's a package i built myself using
make-kpkg
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2116[15:39:20] <litb> judd, why
linux-headers-4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae libqt5core5a
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2117[15:39:21] <judd> No package named
'linux-headers-4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae' was found in
stretch/amd64.
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2118[15:39:31] <litb> judd, why linux-headers-4.9.0 libqt5core5a
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2119[15:39:32] <judd> No package named
'linux-headers-4.9.0' was found in stretch/amd64.
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2120[15:39:35] <litb> what's this
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2121[15:39:46] <babilen> You should use packages that actually
exist in Debian
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2123[15:40:06] <babilen> judd: why linux-image-4.9.0-6-amd64
libqt5core5a
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2124[15:40:07] <judd> No dependency chain found between packages
linux-image-4.9.0-6-amd64 and libqt5core5a in stretch/amd64.
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2126[15:40:09] <karlpinc> litb: I've heard that make-kpkg is
no longer the preferred way to make kernels, although I don't
know. The place to look for kernel creation information is on the
debian wiki.
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2127[15:40:18] <babilen> And there is no dependency chain between
those packages
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2128[15:40:31] <babilen> make-kpkg hasn't been used in a
while
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2129[15:40:33] * karlpinc forgets whether there's something in the
debian reference about making kernels.
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2130[15:40:58] <litb> :( that's sad. so I've wasted all
the last 4 hours
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2133[15:41:24] <bites> there is the debian kernel handbook.
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2134[15:41:24] <litb> first i used linux's own make deb-pkg
or what's called. but I got frustrated after i called it twice
and it did a clean in between *automatically*
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2135[15:41:25] <babilen>
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2137[15:41:38] <bites> hehe, that.
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2138[15:41:42] <karlpinc> litb: Dunno. I often find that about
only 1/2 of such time is wasted. :-)
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2139[15:41:57] <babilen> litb: Sure, Debian packages clean before
they are built, to ensure that you have a .. well .. clean package
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2141[15:42:19] <litb> first my disk went full. i cleaned up a bit
and started it again. and it removed all .ko files it built before
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2143[15:42:22] <babilen> Why are you compiling your own kernel to
begin with and which package does actually depend on libqt5core5a ?
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2144[15:42:24] <litb> man, that's stupid
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2145[15:42:57] <litb> baba__, i need CONFIG_HZ=1000
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2146[15:43:04] <litb> babilen, ^
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2147[15:43:17] <karlpinc> litb: How is the package going to know
what's stupid? Better safe than sorry with that sort of stuff.
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2149[15:44:02] <litb> it could print "removing old .ko
files.. C-c to cancel" and sleep for some seconds before
continuing
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2153[15:44:55] <jhutchins_wk> litb: you're not very familiar
with compiling code, are you? Maybe you should accept the defaults.
There's a reason they work that way.
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2157[15:45:40] <babilen> litb: Did you look into the RT kernel?
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2158[15:45:46] <babilen> (and what do you need it for?)
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2168[15:48:34] <davorin> ehlo (o;
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2172[15:50:10] <davorin> what kernel version have the weekly test
builds of debian 9?
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2175[15:51:05] <bites> debian 9 has released a while ago with
kernel 4.9. otherwise...
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2176[15:51:07] <bites> ,kernels
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2178[15:51:08] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid:
4.16.0-1-686-pae (4.16.5-1); buster: 4.15.0-3-686-pae (4.15.17-1);
stretch-backports: 4.15.0-0.bpo.2-686 (4.15.11-1~bpo9+1); stretch:
4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.88-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae
(4.9.82-1+deb9u3~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-6-686-pae (3.16.56-1);
wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
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2179[15:51:09] <judd> (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy:
3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.101-1)
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2180[15:51:25] <davorin> in the iso installer images?
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2181[15:51:30] <davorin> that would be great...
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2182[15:51:41] <davorin> as i don't like ubuntu 18 at
all...well..never liked it (o;
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2183[15:51:52] <bites> the debian 9 installer images all have
kernel 4.9
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2184[15:51:55] <davorin> another option would be to install an
older pice ethernet card for my company pc
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2185[15:52:00] <davorin> ooh...
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2186[15:52:08] <davorin> but i can then back port a newer
kernel...
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2187[15:52:22] <bites> yes, after the installation, sure.
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2189[15:52:37] <davorin> well..makes sense to use a kernel from a
stable release for an installer (o;
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2190[15:52:49] <karlpinc> davorin: Or use one from debian
backports.
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2191[15:53:06] <davorin> for the installer?
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2192[15:53:26] <karlpinc> davorin: I was thinking after install.
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2193[15:53:41] <davorin> right...
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2194[15:53:45] <davorin> well might be that kernel 4.15 or newer
have better support for i7-8700 series
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2195[15:54:12] <davorin> found yesterday a good blog post
describing the procedure...
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2196[15:54:54] <davorin> what desktop do you prefer for
development?
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2197[15:55:05] <davorin> currently use xfce at home...as it seems
very lightweight
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2199[15:55:43] <davorin> and so far had no issues with commercial
pga tools on debian 9
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2200[15:55:48] <bites> i3wm or awesome. don't like to use
the touchpad when moving around.
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2201[15:55:54] <davorin> besides some programs are compiled
against libpng12 (o;
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2202[15:56:26] <davorin> don't remember which wm are offered
during install
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2207[15:57:20] <bites> uh, gnome, xfce, kde, lxde, cinnamon,
mate, lxqt
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2208[15:57:29] <bites> that should be it.
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2210[15:57:45] <davorin> i liked the old code in the old days on
a sun (o;
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2212[15:57:50] <davorin> s/cde/code/
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2215[15:57:55] <davorin> stupid auto correction...
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2216[15:57:59] <karlpinc> davorin: All desktops suck.
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2218[15:58:21] <davorin> well...i still edit mostly remotely with
vi (o;
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2225[15:59:09] <davorin> hmm..who did a screenshot of awesome
desktop with bob ross as background...makes me thinking (o;
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2229[15:59:39] <Guest58298> davorin: vi is a way of life
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2230[15:59:41] <alx_fly> is there a possibilty to reinstall
default debian packages like after fresh install?
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cards...
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2239[16:03:21] <karlpinc> alx_fly: It should be simple enough to
script a re-install of all installed packages: aptitude search
'~i' | xargs -n 1 aptitude reinstall But I've not
tested this. But rather than doing something like that it'd be
better for you to tell us your real problem and see if that
can't be fixed. (Look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
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2243[16:04:13] <davorin> hmm..an intel, a tp-link and two
realteks should be enough to test...
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2346[16:42:41] <alx_fly> anyone running into this problem ?
/usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1910]: #011(WW) warning, (EE) error,
(NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
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2361[16:47:05] <jelly> talin: that does not look like a problem,
just some random line from Xorg log
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2362[16:47:14] <jelly> erm.
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2363[16:47:19] <jelly> alx_fly: that does not look like a
problem, just some random line from Xorg log
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2364[16:47:20] <jhutchins_wk> alx_fly: That's pretty
meaningless without context. What operation yeilds this error? Does
anything fail?
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2365[16:47:25] <jelly> !ask
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2366[16:47:25] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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2373[16:50:41] <alx_fly> jelly, jhutchins_wk: gdm does not show
up. it causes since updateing yesterday. i used before the
nvidia-dkms, bumblebee and kernel 4.14 from backports. the update
fails and broke some dependencies. now i removed the 4.15bpo kernel
and the backports packages and installed 4.9.0.6 and nvidia
bumblebee. after that my gdm does not start
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2374[16:50:50] <alx_fly> running debian 9
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2382[16:53:25] <jelly> ah, so it's likely a change in kernel
broke nvidia driver (dkms building) again
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2388[16:55:44] <alx_fly> here the logs:
replaced-url
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2391[16:56:28] <alx_fly> jelly: done dkms rebuild and nvidia
works fine. but gdm is not showing up. HELL
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2395[16:57:52] <alx_fly> alex@Inspiron-7537:~$ optirun glxgears
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2396[16:57:55] <alx_fly> 3968 frames in 5.0 seconds = 793.452 FPS
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2397[16:57:57] <alx_fly> [VGL] ERROR: in readback--
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2398[16:57:59] <alx_fly> [VGL] 254: Window has been deleted by
window manager
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2404[17:01:14] <alx_fly> jelly, jhutchins_wk: here the full log
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2405[17:01:17] <alx_fly> syslog
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2409[17:03:19] <davorin> hmm...how well is gtx1050 supported in
debian 9?
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2410[17:03:38] <alx_fly> dmesg
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2411[17:03:45] <Trel> Ok, odd question, from the debian home
page, how do I navigate to the current iso with the extra drivers
and firmwares? I know how to find it through google, but not
manually through links from the debian site.
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2417[17:05:47] <Trel> nevermind, I found a path there
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2419[17:05:57] <karlpinc> Trel: I don't know the navigation.
I always ask the bot here.
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2423[17:07:24] <Trel> I found it though, it's a small text
link just mentioned on the cdimage download page.
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replaced-url
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2447[17:19:05] <bolovanos> hithere
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2453[17:22:23] <alx_fly> after killing gdm3 gdm starts
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2475[17:30:00] <alx_fly> so could someone help. i dont want to
reinstall debian XD
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2477[17:31:05] <LtL> alx_fly: how do you 'kill' it? Try
systemctl stop gdm3
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2480[17:31:34] <alx_fly> LtL: killall gdm3
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2481[17:31:51] <LtL> alx_fly: not a good method.
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2482[17:32:06] <alx_fly> i know
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2485[17:32:12] <alx_fly> will use systemd
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2496[17:34:26] <alx_fly> now i am confused
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2497[17:34:32] <alx_fly> LtL: gdm3 starts at boot. many time it
does not
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2498[17:34:44] <alx_fly> and i dont know what goes wrond
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2499[17:34:54] <alx_fly> LtL: THX for your advice
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2509[17:37:59] <LtL> alx_fly: look at journalctl and other logs
to see whats happening.
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2515[17:39:08] <alx_fly> would you help? i dont maintained a
system since some years XD
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2520[17:41:15] <LtL> alx_fly: systemctl status gdm3 for starters,
journalctl -f to see what is happening. Also logfiles in
/var/log/messages /var/log/syslog
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2525[17:43:14] <alx_fly> LtL:
replaced-url
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2526[17:43:26] <alx_fly> grep EE /var/log/messages
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2527[17:43:44] <alx_fly> really strange errors
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2531[17:45:18] <LtL> alx_fly: is that paste /var/log/messages?
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2533[17:45:40] <alx_fly> yeah, but only the EE errors
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2535[17:46:23] <LtL> alx_fly: ok, what does 'systemctl
status gdm3' state/say?
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replaced-url
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2544[17:49:19] <LtL> alx_fly: that looks good, the touchscreen
errors seem to be an issue.
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2546[17:51:06] <alx_fly> LtL: what would be the good way? get a
new screen XD
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2550[17:52:46] <LtL> alx_fly: please keep messages in the channel
so others can assist. I can't say if the screen itself is the
problem. Try 'journalctl -f' and see if there are errors
there.
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2557[17:54:38] <alx_fly> LtL:
replaced-url
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2560[17:55:43] <LtL> alx_fly: you stated 'nvidia-dkms
bumblebee and the kernel from backports then removed them. That may
have caused issues. I'm not sure.
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2561[17:57:06] <alx_fly> LtL: is it possible to reinstall all
default packages?
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2563[17:57:13] <alx_fly> damn got no backup
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2569[17:59:29] <LtL> alx_fly: y0u could try, 'apt-get
install --reinstall <pkg>' but that may be risky unless
you know the exact offending package. Downgrading is risky at best,
it look like a display problem though.
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2576[18:01:22] <alx_fly> LtL: the only good thing is that
bumblebee works on my machine with 4.9.0.6 kernel
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2583[18:04:52] <LtL> alx_fly: re-installing -all- default
packages would be more difficult than re-installing from scratch
without a dpkg --get-selections file _before_ all those changes.
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2594[18:08:09] <LtL> alx_fly: I wish I could be more definitive,
but nvidia-dkms and bumble I have no experience with.
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2597[18:09:10] <LtL> alx_fly: if this is a fresh install, you
know what works so a re-install would be pretty quick.
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2599[18:09:34] <jhutchins_wk> I think you want
/var/log/Xorg.0.log for EE messages.
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2601[18:10:27] <jhutchins_wk> The status of gdm3 would be
significant when it fails to start more than when it succeeds.
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2605[18:11:16] <jhutchins_wk> Hmmm. Gone already.
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2619[18:16:17] <alx_fly> LtL: yeah it would be quick. mv /home to
an backup device...
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2622[18:16:47] <alx_fly> gdm gives no errors but no screen. after
restart gdm3 in tty2 it worked and gdm3 show up
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2623[18:16:56] <alx_fly> so could be this fixed?
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2625[18:17:40] <LtL> alx_fly: jhutchins_wk wisely suggests
looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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2642[18:24:34] <dada78641> Hi there! I'm trying to get
internet working with the "wl" proprietary driver (via
here
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2644[18:26:04] <jelly> dada78641: if it's not found it
probably means the build procedure was not successful
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2650[18:27:34] <dada78641> Could be, but I'm not sure how I
can tell whether that's the case. The wiki only tells me to
install things, and then activate the module.
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2654[18:27:58] <dada78641> Or rather it says "dkms will
build the module"
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2655[18:28:07] <dada78641> Maybe I need to do something manually
to start that process then?
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2656[18:29:16] <alx_fly> LtL: thousend of times i get following
error:
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2657[18:29:18] <alx_fly> [ 228.595] (EE) SynPS/2 Synaptics
TouchPad: Read error 9
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2662[18:29:31] <BanHammor> dada78641, could you uninstall and
reinstall broadcom-sta-dkms from your terminal and post the full
output of it?
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2664[18:29:40] <dada78641> Yes, will do
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2665[18:29:42] <BanHammor> of the installation command that is
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2670[18:30:37] <alx_fly> LtL: grep 'SynPS/2 Synaptics
TouchPad: Read error 9' /var/log/Xorg.0.log | wc -l
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2672[18:30:39] <alx_fly> 127825
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2674[18:30:48] <dada78641> Ah, I think that revealed something I
missed before. Upon reinstalling it says it skipped the module build
because the 4.15.0-2-amd64 kernel headers haven't been
installed
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2675[18:30:55] <jelly> dada78641: the output of broadcom-sta-dkms
package installation shows whether the build was successful. You can
probably do "dpkg-reconfigure broadcom-sta-dkms" to try
building it again
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2680[18:31:23] <jelly> dada78641: install linux-headers-$(uname
-r)
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2684[18:31:40] <jelly> ,kernels
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2685[18:31:42] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid:
4.16.0-1-686-pae (4.16.5-1); buster: 4.15.0-3-686-pae (4.15.17-1);
stretch-backports: 4.15.0-0.bpo.2-686 (4.15.11-1~bpo9+1); stretch:
4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.88-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae
(4.9.82-1+deb9u3~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-6-686-pae (3.16.56-1);
wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
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2686[18:31:43] <judd> (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy:
3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.101-1)
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2690[18:32:37] <jelly> dada78641: looks like you'll have to
upgrade both the kernel and headers, unless you want to fetch old
headers from snapshot.debian.org. Also, if you're on testing or
unstable, it's better to ask in
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2691[18:32:39] <jelly> !debian-nexyt
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2693[18:32:46] <jelly> !debian-next
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2694[18:32:46] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2696[18:34:07] <dada78641> hm, it claims it can't find
linux-headers-4.15.0-2-amd64, although I do have linux-headers-amd64
at (4.9+80+deb9u4) installed
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2698[18:34:23] <dada78641> that one comes from the wiki guide
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2701[18:36:09] <eugenmayer> why is someting like "source
/home/me/env.sh; env" not working in cron. It seems like the
env is never popuplated
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2703[18:36:38] <eugenmayer> when i pipe the output to a logfile,
the ENV is always only the bare minimum ( default path / home.) and
thats it
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2705[18:37:35] <eugenmayer> seems like it should be possible -
generally ;
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2708[18:38:03] <jelly> eugenmayer: crond avoids running commands
in a subshell when it feels it can. Do "sh -c '.
/home/me/env.sh; env'"
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2709[18:38:03] <dada78641> I'll see if debian-next knows
what the deal is with the kernel headers, seems that must be the
key. Thanks for the help :)
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2713[18:38:32] <jelly> dada78641: you probably have old kernel
running right now, and headers for it are gone from the repo
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2717[18:39:13] <dada78641> My uname -r seems to be
4.15.0-2-amd64, no idea if that's old or not
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2718[18:39:31] <jelly> it's old, see what judd bot said
above
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2720[18:40:05] <eugenmayer> jelly: interesting - trying that
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2721[18:40:07] <dada78641> Aha, ok
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2723[18:42:26] <jelly> eugenmayer: and your /bin/sh might not
know what "source " command is
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2724[18:42:35] <eugenmayer> jelly: that worked. Serously how
crappy, unpredictible and horribly designed is cron actually
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2727[18:43:11] <eugenmayer> it never logs anything, it never
telss why it does not run anything, it needs a newline ( sometimes
). It seems like from 1960 without any love gone to it since then ;/
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2728[18:43:17] <jelly> eugenmayer: reading the manual pages
crontab(5) and cron(8) can clear up so many issues
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2731[18:43:43] <eugenmayer> i did read it, and nothing of that is
inside there :) And googling about cron issues alone does help
understand, how bad it is designed
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2733[18:43:58] <jelly> eugenmayer: enabling cron.* in syslog and
setting up working mail delivery can be helpful, too
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2734[18:44:04] <eugenmayer> in my case, if you would see that -
thats rediculous.
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2735[18:44:25] <eugenmayer> jelly: nevertheless, thank you for
the subshell trick, that did it.
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2737[18:44:49] <jelly> I agree is rather special, but
SHELL=/bin/sh is doumented
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2741[18:45:47] <jelly> and Debian's default /bin/sh does not
do "source"
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2745[18:46:16] <CMLSC> Could anyone help me with some
installation issues I'm having with debian?
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2746[18:46:21] <jelly> !ask
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2747[18:46:21] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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2749[18:46:40] <jelly> that means you CMLSC
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2751[18:46:48] <CMLSC> okay
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2754[18:47:19] <CMLSC> Basically I tried to install debian and
chose the settings to replace all the OSes on the hard drive, but
for some reason it seems that the installation did nothing.
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2757[18:48:00] <jelly> CMLSC: does that mean any previously
existing partitions are still present?
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2759[18:48:06] <CMLSC> Previous boot options are still there and
I can't find debian under the other boot options in the bios.
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2760[18:48:23] <CMLSC> jelly the debian installation said it was
going to repartition everything
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2762[18:48:43] <jelly> yes. But it didn't say it was going
to clear up old UEFI boot options, sadly
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2763[18:48:44] <CMLSC> so they shouldn't be
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2765[18:49:22] <jelly> is your system booting via UEFI or legacy
MBR/bios?
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2767[18:49:28] <CMLSC> I chose the options to replace the other
boot options because it thought there wasn't any OS on it
anyway
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2773[18:49:52] <CMLSC> jelly I can't get UEFI to work, but I
can boot from legacy
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2775[18:50:04] <CMLSC> specifically the flash drive I was using
to install
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2776[18:50:13] <jelly> CMLSC: can you take a screenshot of the
boot options and put it someplace like imgur.com?
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2777[18:50:22] <jelly> or picpaste.com
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2783[18:51:05] <jelly> ok. a phone cam shot of the screen, not
technically "screenshot"
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2827[18:54:52] <CMLSC> jelly
replaced-url
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2831[18:55:09] <CMLSC> my original ubuntu install broke when I
installed some software updates
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2835[18:55:25] <jelly> CMLSC: okay. So you have an UEFI boot
entry for ubuntu.
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2837[18:55:34] <CMLSC> yeah
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2841[18:55:46] <jelly> what happens of you choose that
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2842[18:55:53] <jelly> if*
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2846[18:56:23] <CMLSC> Dell SupportAssist "Your system seems
to be having trouble starting. Dell SupportAssist is scanning your
hardware for a possible cause."
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2847[18:56:33] <jelly> fuckwhat
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2849[18:56:46] <CMLSC> jelly that's the broken ubuntu
install
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2850[18:56:51] <jelly> the goal now is probably to boot Debian
somehow, then call the tool for editing uefi boot choices
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2852[18:57:13] <CMLSC> I have a ubuntu iso that I could put on
the flashdrive
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2853[18:57:30] <jelly> efibootmgr? I'll have to find some
uefi machine to look
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2855[18:57:41] <CMLSC> There isn't a "try debian"
option, right?
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2857[18:57:50] <jelly> there are debian live images
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2862[18:58:11] <CMLSC> jelly I have some ubuntu isos already
though
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2863[18:58:24] <jelly> any linux that boots will probably do
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2864[18:58:43] <jelly> even the installer has a shell on
Ctrl-Alt-F3
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2872[18:59:23] <CMLSC> jelly shouldn't take long to prepare
the iso...
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2873[18:59:28] <jelly> but I have to run away right now,
hopefully someone will hop in
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2875[18:59:48] <CMLSC> okay
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2881[19:01:20] <sky_> hello can someone hack in to linux os ?
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2901[19:05:35] <CMLSC> looks like I can't boot from the
flash drive now... idk why
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2907[19:06:09] <mtn> CMLSC: do you still have the debian install
disk?
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2908[19:06:20] <CMLSC> mtn I had it on a flash drive
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2909[19:06:27] <mtn> CMLSC: did or do?
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2911[19:06:31] <CMLSC> just replaced it with ubuntu
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2912[19:06:40] <sky_> CMLSC can my linux distro could be hacked/
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2913[19:06:41] <CMLSC> ah, I got it running from the legacy
options again
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2915[19:06:59] <mtn> CMLSC: ok. I always use the debian install
disk for repairs. It has a nice repair function
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2916[19:07:24] <CMLSC> mtn the iso I was using might've had
a repair option
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2918[19:07:26] <CMLSC> not sure
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2919[19:07:39] <CMLSC> just trying to get to a terminal for now
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2920[19:07:39] <mtn> CMLSC: the debian install disk does for sure
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2921[19:08:21] <sky_> windows guy saying they can hack me on
linux ?
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2923[19:09:48] <oerheks> sky_, we don't comment on
windows-rumours
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2924[19:10:14] <oerheks> !fud
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2925[19:10:14] <dpkg> fud is probably Fear, uncertainty, doubt.
Originally invented by IBM, but now used by many others. or YAFA. or
Fscking Useless Data or otherwise known as false information or
mindless facts with no backup facts or
replaced-url
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2926[19:10:33] <CMLSC> mtn so my hard drive has 5 partitions
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2927[19:10:48] <CMLSC> 2 4MB partitions for booting.
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2928[19:10:56] <CMLSC> and 3 others
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2935[19:12:15] <sky_> oerheks yes they said i must install
antivirus or they hack me
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2939[19:13:33] <mtn> CMLSC: if you have that many partitions, the
the install didn't work the way you said. It should only be two
partitions, one root and one swap.
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2942[19:16:06] <mtn> CMLSC: why not do the install again? make
sure what it is doing and that it is what you want it to do.
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2943[19:16:07] <CMLSC> mtn here's what is says
replaced-url
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2945[19:16:33] <CMLSC> mtn what settings do I need to choose
though?
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2947[19:16:56] <CMLSC> I thought I chose the right ones. (I
can't name them all, but I'll remember which ones I chose
if you name them)
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2973[19:24:56] <sky_> that guy in windows room saying that he can
hack in to debian or i must install antivirus ,There is any anti
virus for debian ?
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2974[19:25:00] <mtn> CMLSC: sorry, I am not familiar with that
kind of setup.
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2977[19:25:51] <mtn> sky_: antivirus is not needed while using
linux.
replaced-url
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2980[19:26:38] <sky_> mtn than how he s saying he can hack in my
debian pc
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2982[19:27:18] <mtn> sky_: he is trolling you or you are just
trolling this channel
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2984[19:28:29] <sky_> mtn he s trolling me by hacking may be ?
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2997[19:31:41] <CMLSC> mtn do my partitions still look wrong?
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3002[19:33:16] <mtn> CMLSC: as I said, I am not familiar with
your kind of setup. I would only use 2 partitions
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3011[19:36:23] <CMLSC> mtn okay
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3013[19:38:22] <annadane> antiviruses are often useless at best
anyway and at worst actively harmful
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3015[19:38:31] <annadane> certainly on linux boxes
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3017[19:38:45] <eugenmayer> jelly: our of any reason its still
not working. I deploy on a stretch, creating a /etc/cron.d/drupal
using that statement in a docker file
replaced-url
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3018[19:39:08] <eugenmayer> jelly: now, it simply never runs
until i just edit the file with vim and save it - then it gets
executed
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3020[19:39:19] <eugenmayer> it really drives me nuts ;/
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3027[19:40:58] <jelly> eugenmayer: are there any differences in
the file before and after editing?
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3028[19:41:18] <eugenmayer> according to cat -A there are now
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3030[19:41:21] <eugenmayer> *not
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3031[19:41:31] <jelly> file size? diff -u?
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3033[19:41:44] <jelly> I have no clue what cat -A does
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3035[19:41:49] <annadane> doubly so if the person is running an
antivirus because they expect defaults to do all the work for them
in place of making healthy decisions
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3036[19:42:13] <greycat> I would look for cron's logs from
the times when it failed.
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3037[19:42:55] <jelly> crond notoriosly ignores last lines
without \n without complaining at all
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3039[19:43:12] <greycat> and vim would add a final \n if it were
missing...
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3041[19:43:35] <jelly> eugenmayer: which your docker automation
should really know about, if that's the cause
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3042[19:43:48] <jelly> it's been that way for 20+ years now
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3043[19:44:15] * greycat still doesn't know how "cat -A"
is a substitute for diff.
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3044[19:45:02] <jelly> meow
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3046[19:45:31] <jelly> oh, that's no automation, that looks
like echo > file
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3047[19:45:49] <eugenmayer> jeezy: cat -A shows all spacial
characters
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3048[19:46:02] <greycat> but it doesn't show you the
differences between two files
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3050[19:46:11] <eugenmayer> jelly: ^^ adding \n does not help me
at all
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3053[19:46:31] <jelly> eugenmayer: adding it where?
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3054[19:46:33] <CMLSC> oh hey jelly
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3055[19:46:42] <jelly> hi
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3056[19:46:45] <CMLSC> jelly these are my partitions:
replaced-url
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3058[19:46:47] <greycat> You said you edited the file in vim. Vim
adds a \n to the end if it was originally missing. By default.
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3060[19:47:06] <eugenmayer> jelly:
replaced-url
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3061[19:47:31] <greycat> that is not a diff between the files
before and after editing
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3062[19:47:32] <eugenmayer> jelly: i tried that before (\n) adds
a newline, but cron does not care still, not execution before i edit
it with vim
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3063[19:47:43] <jelly> CMLSC: what kind of system is this that it
only has 32GB flash for boot disk?
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3066[19:48:20] <greycat> what the hell is that
2>&1'n"
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3069[19:48:36] <jelly> eugenmayer: ok. Same question about file
difference before and after editing, then
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3070[19:48:47] <eugenmayer> a typo
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3071[19:49:03] <eugenmayer> greycat: echo "* * * * *
replaced-url
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3072[19:49:12] <jelly> eugenmayer: you should probably use printf
instead of echo, if that's a shell snippet
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3073[19:49:33] <eugenmayer> i will deploy that and give you a
diff, but AFICS yet, since cat -A does not show me any difference,
diff will neither. But sill, let me try that
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3074[19:49:41] <greycat> eugenmayer: what you just pasted into
chat is NOT what appeared on your web page.
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3076[19:50:03] <CMLSC> jelly a really bad laptop that someone
gave to me for free
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3077[19:50:04] <eugenmayer> greycat: yes, i made a typo. I was
using that before so i was just quickly adjusting
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3078[19:50:15] <CMLSC> it couldn't fit windows, so they just
let me have it
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3079[19:50:19] <greycat> eugenmayer: whether this means your
chosen pastebin ate the character or whether it means you EDITED
SOMETHING, we cannot know. Also, that literal \n is not correct AND
IS NOT WHAT JELLY AND I WERE SAYING.
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3080[19:50:24] <jelly> CMLSC: oh, like a netbook thingy?
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3081[19:50:35] <CMLSC> dell inspiron-somethingorother
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3083[19:50:55] <jelly> it's possible they do something weird
with boot process. But still ubuntu managed to install itself
properly
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3084[19:50:59] <CMLSC> jelly Dell Inspiron 14-3452 I think.
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3086[19:51:05] <CMLSC> jelly not properly
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3087[19:51:06] <greycat> eugenmayer: run "diff -u" on
the NON-WORKING file and the WORKING file.
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3088[19:51:12] <jelly> improperly?
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3089[19:51:16] <CMLSC> like I said, I had to start ubuntu 3 times
for it to actually start properly
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3091[19:51:22] <CMLSC> or did I not mention that? xD
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3092[19:51:27] <CMLSC> it was weird
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3093[19:51:28] <eugenmayer> i will. greycat relaxe, i am not
trying to waste either of yours time.
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3094[19:51:41] <CMLSC> the way it broke was also weird(software
updates)
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3095[19:52:17] <jelly> CMLSC: that's output of lsblk?
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3098[19:53:07] <CMLSC> jelly yep
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3099[19:53:14] <CMLSC> or at least the hard drive partition
partsd
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3100[19:53:16] <CMLSC> *parts
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3103[19:54:02] <jelly> I don't really know a lot about uefi
boot issues, but you ought to have a vfat efi boot partition,
possibly one tiny (4MB sounds about right) partition for grub
stage2, and then two normal partiitons for linux and linux swap
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3108[19:54:56] <jelly> not sure what those two mmcblk0boot* are
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3109[19:55:02] <CMLSC> jelly so any idea what I should do?
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3112[19:55:27] <jelly> and partitions 1, 2 then 5 sound like MBR
partition table format and not GPT which is more common with UEFI
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3116[19:56:20] <jelly> CMLSC: you basically only have two real
partitions, mmcblk0p1 and mmcblk0p5, and it looks like debian did
that part right
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3120[19:57:06] <CMLSC> jelly so why are ubuntu and windows boot
manager my boot options?
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3125[19:58:17] <jelly> CMLSC: that's a good question. Which
os you have booted now?
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3126[19:58:54] <tw> That's not a normal setup. You're
booting a non-embedded system off mmc? Is this a chromebook or
something?
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3128[19:59:00] <CMLSC> jelly I've got ubuntu on the flash
drive
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3131[19:59:23] <CMLSC> the installation specifically, but
I'm using the "try ubuntu" thing for the terminal
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3132[19:59:25] <jelly> CMLSC: okay. Can you "mount
/dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt" as root
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3133[19:59:39] <jelly> open a root shell with "sudo -i"
first
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3134[19:59:49] <jelly> you'll be doing a lot of stuff as
root
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3136[20:00:16] <jelly> tw: cheap netbook looks kinda embedded...
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3139[20:00:51] <tw> My money is on custom boot block location in
boot0/boot1.
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3140[20:00:52] <CMLSC> jelly should it say anything?
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3141[20:00:56] <CMLSC> I did it tho
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3142[20:01:13] <CMLSC> the "mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt"
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3143[20:01:57] <jelly> no, if it's quiet it means it worked
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3144[20:02:07] <CMLSC> anything else?
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3145[20:02:10] <jelly> "df" or "mount" should
show it's mounted now
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3147[20:03:05] <CMLSC> so under df I should see
"/dev/mmcblk0p1 27949140 4001580 22504744 16% /mnt"?
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3148[20:03:06] <jelly> CMLSC: now, prepare to do stuff in debian
inside chroot. for each of /dev, /proc, /sys, do something like:
"mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev"
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3149[20:03:10] <jelly> yes
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3152[20:03:46] <CMLSC> wdym for each /dev, /proc, and /sys?
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3153[20:03:50] <CMLSC> the stuff under df?
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3154[20:04:12] <CMLSC> oh, under mount
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3155[20:04:16] <jelly> run "mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev"
and "mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc" and...
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3156[20:04:17] <CMLSC> all of them?
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3157[20:04:33] <jelly> all three
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3158[20:05:07] <CMLSC> did it
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3160[20:05:12] <CMLSC> anything else?
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3163[20:05:27] <jelly> and then you might be able to "chroot
/mnt" and get a shell inside debian installation
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3164[20:06:05] <CMLSC> jelly it switched from
"root@ubuntu:~#" to "root@ubuntu:/#"
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3166[20:06:09] <CMLSC> still ubuntu tho
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3167[20:06:20] <jelly> that's still the host name
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3169[20:06:28] <CMLSC> what now?
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3171[20:07:00] <jelly> ubuntu iso sets host name to
"ubuntu" at boot. It's only set once at boot time
usually. Not relevant.
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3174[20:07:16] <CMLSC> I gtg for a little bit. .-.
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3176[20:07:28] <jelly> see you later
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3177[20:07:31] <CMLSC> I'll be back later and I'll read
whatever is in here
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3180[20:08:40] <jelly> CMLSC: the general idea is to find the efi
boot partition, mount it inside debian chroot shell at /boot/efi,
then use efibootmgr to remove old entries and add one for debian
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3186[20:10:21] <jelly> CMLSC: possibly install grub-efi-amd64 or
grub-efi-ia32, whichever works for your system
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3211[20:24:45] <CMLSC> jelly I'm back
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3215[20:26:03] <CMLSC> also, I have no clue how to do any of
that. I'm pretty new to using linux. ._.
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3221[20:29:07] <CMLSC> lol, apparently this laptop has 1 star on
amazon.
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3223[20:29:26] <CMLSC> I gotta say though, it's got a good
battery life
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3225[20:32:03] <eugenmayer> jelly: greycat:
replaced-url
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3226[20:32:21] <eugenmayer> as expected, the diff is non
existent, nothing is diffrent
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3232[20:34:49] <greycat> eugenmayer: then we have a mystery. Are
there any errors from the time when cron *should* be running it, and
it's failing to do so?
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3234[20:35:40] <eugenmayer> greycat: since i run cron in the
foreground and log it, there is nothing i can see there
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3236[20:37:10] <greycat> What *DOES* it show at the time when it
looks for jobs in that directory to execute? You have to come up
with some details at some point. You can't just keep saying
"there is nothing I can do but you should all be able to tell
me what to do"
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3239[20:37:59] <greycat> Do the OTHER jobs in that directory work
at that moment?
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3240[20:38:03] <eugenmayer> greycat: how would i trace that? So
how can i visualize how cron does anallize. the content of
/etc/crontab /etc/cron.d? there is no debug flag for that, is there?
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3241[20:38:09] <eugenmayer> yes they do
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3242[20:38:20] <greycat> Then SHOW THE FREAKIN' LOGS from
that time!
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3252[20:41:41] <greycat> Bah, I should know better than to try to
help Docker users. Even outside of #bash.
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3253[20:42:21] <eugenmayer> wow.
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3257[20:43:57] * greycat reads cron(8) and sees "the files in the
/etc/cron.d directory are monitored for changes" and wonders if
the Docker component of the problem has made it so that cron(8)
doesn't know the file is there, until you "change" it
by saving in vim
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3258[20:44:11] * greycat also sees "the system administrator
should not use/etc/cron.d/"
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3261[20:45:59] <eugenmayer> you have 0 clue of docker, what i do
or whatever you rant about. So why in hell you even involve? I did
hopefully not force you to try to help, in any case i invite you to
not do so
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3283[20:58:53] <rigoabe> hi i may have screwed up my x2 with
jessie. now this little box boots only in emergency mode. journalctl
-xn is like chinese for me at the moment. meaning i have no idea
what to check. can i pastebin the content here?
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3284[20:59:34] <rigoabe> oh yeah. this happened after i tried to
upgrade from jessie to stretch of course (don't ask why i did
it... i'm like a kid)
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3288[21:01:18] <petn-randall> rigoabe: What is a x2?
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3289[21:01:43] <wodny> petn-randall: filesystem type in japanese
;)
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3290[21:01:48] <annadane> thinkpad model...?
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3291[21:02:03] <rigoabe> it is a cheap "allwinner"
beelink x2
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3292[21:02:23] <annadane> ah
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3294[21:02:54] <petn-randall> annadane: Those have more digits to
signify speed.
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3296[21:03:09] <annadane> yeah
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3297[21:03:15] <petn-randall> rigoabe: Did the upgrade even go
all the way through?
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3299[21:03:16] <petn-randall> !apt
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3300[21:03:16] <dpkg> Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) is a package
management system used by Debian and its derivatives. APT is a C++
library of functions that are used by several command line programs
for dealing with packages, notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude
and, from Debian 8 "Jessie" onwards, apt. See also
<aptitude> <apt-get>, <apt-cache>, <apt
myths>.
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3301[21:03:31] <petn-randall> rigoabe: Can you provide all of the
above in a single paste? We can then check what's up.
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3302[21:03:35] <eugenmayer> jelly thanks for pointing it printf,
that was the actual issue. have looked at
replaced-url
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3305[21:04:46] <rigoabe> petn-randall: now it did after i did it
locally not remotely via putty.
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3308[21:05:38] <rigoabe>
replaced-url
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3311[21:07:00] <petn-randall> rigoabe: Did the kernel upgrade
cleanly?
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3312[21:07:31] <rigoabe> i'm not sure what that means
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3315[21:09:01] <wodny> rigoabe: what does `$ dpkg -l | grep
linux-image` say?
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3317[21:10:11] <rigoabe> linux-image-sun8i 5.38 armhf linux
kernel, version 3.4.113-sun8i
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3319[21:10:35] <rigoabe> starts with ii sorry.
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3320[21:10:47] <mrig> Hello, having a little trouble booting my
debian box, something seems to be a miss with it. Booting in
recovery mode and it seems to freeze at the line: 'random: crng
init done'
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3321[21:11:21] <wodny> mrig: is a physical machine and a virtual
machine?
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3322[21:11:35] <wodny> *or
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3323[21:11:47] <mrig> wodny a physical machine, has been running
fine.
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3325[21:12:14] <mrig> no instillation or changes, I am suspecting
hardware but could well be wrong.
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3327[21:13:02] <wodny> mrig: do you have any encrypted
partitions/filesystems?
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3328[21:13:16] <rigoabe> wodny: but apt update, apt upgrade and
apt dist-upgrade shows that all packages are up to date
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3329[21:13:41] <jelly> rigoabe: that's built from a sunxi
vendor kernel tree and has quite a number of issues
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3330[21:13:44] <mrig> there is no encryption no, partitions yes
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3331[21:14:28] <wodny> mrig: do you mean you have encrypted
partitions or just have partitions?
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3332[21:14:33] <rigoabe> well upgrading a system that works just
fine was a mistake i know that :) now is there a way to a) fix it or
b) downgrade it back to the old one?
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3334[21:14:45] <mrig> just partitions, they are not encrypted.
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3335[21:14:58] <jelly> rigoabe: "restore the system from
previous backup"
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3336[21:15:28] <mrig> when I try a normal boot, it does its own
file system check which is ok, and then freezes.
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3337[21:16:23] <jelly> rigoabe: given the lack of (some) kernel
features for systemd, the system might work better (or at least fail
differently) with sysvinit
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3339[21:16:36] <rigoabe> and that goes how? naturally, i
didn't do a backup.. bc why..
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3341[21:16:49] <jelly> !stretch sysvinit
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3342[21:16:50] <dpkg> To replace systemd with sysvinit in
stretch, simply "apt-get install sysvinit-core" and
reboot. To switch from systemd to runit, "apt-get install
runit-systemd", reboot, "apt-get install runit-init",
and reboot again.
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3343[21:16:51] <wodny> mrig: hmm, you may be right with a
hardware malfunction. the last easy thing to check would be typing
mindlessly on keyboard during the freeze phase. maybe for some
reason something needs entropy and that is why it freezes.
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3344[21:17:04] <jelly> rigoabe: but that means apt has to work
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3345[21:17:34] <rigoabe> yeah. that seems easy. will check right
away
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3346[21:17:36] <mrig> wodny, just doing that as you send the
message, spooky!
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3349[21:18:08] <mrig> ok so now it starts ...
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3350[21:18:11] <mrig> :|
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3352[21:18:29] <Schmeckle> Guys sorry to post this here, I know
it doesn't fit, but I am still beginner in IRC channels and
stuff. Where would I post the following question best, in which
channel? Or maybe one of you can answer it. "Do you know any
good books about the early times of the internet, especially early
successful applications/software/websites/phenomenae of it."
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3353[21:18:30] <wodny> mrig: it started after typing some
letters?
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3354[21:18:36] <mrig> Why thank you wodny, you are a genius :D
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3355[21:18:46] <mrig> wodny, it would appear so
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3356[21:18:47] <eugenmayer> wodny: how .. you .. new …
that :)
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3359[21:18:58] <jelly> Schmeckle: ##history ?
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3361[21:19:17] <rigoabe> removing systemd-sysv when i thought
i've learned a new thing and can use it. :D
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3362[21:19:28] <jelly> Schmeckle: there's a bot used to hunt
for irc channels on this network, /msg alis list keywordhere
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3363[21:19:40] <wodny> mrig: eugenmayer: i have seen things like
that on physical embedded machines and on virtual machines
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3365[21:19:59] <greycat> Schmeckle: and if you can't find it
from alis, ask in #freenode
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3366[21:20:00] <wodny> sometimes as a workaround i install the
haveged daemon to "produce" entropy
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3367[21:20:21] <Schmeckle> Hey thanks, you are really helpful.
Sorry again for the off-topic!
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3372[21:20:38] <wodny> i should probably add that installing
haveged may influence security of the system (cryptography)
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3377[21:21:11] <jelly> wodny: haveged is probably just fine for
physical systems with actual working rdtsc instruction
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