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0 [00:00:22] <CluelessGuy> markybob Thanks a lot! Will use the
3.7GB one then. any ideas if there are proper drivers for my AMD
Radeon 7900?
1 [00:00:26] <CluelessGuy> *7950
2 [00:01:02] <cruncher> ghormoon, you want to remove a key?
3 [00:01:12] <CluelessGuy> btw markybob the image
"debian-8.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso" you linked me, really is
Gnome?
4 [00:01:36] <kejsi564> markybob it works !
5 [00:01:38] <markybob> CluelessGuy: probably
firmware-amd-graphics in non-free. worry about it after install
6 [00:01:39] <kejsi564> thank you
7 [00:01:44] <kejsi564> so i did unrar it
8 [00:01:50] <markybob> CluelessGuy: yeah
9 [00:01:51] <kejsi564> and question for you
10 [00:01:58] <CluelessGuy> markybob ok thanks and thanks again!
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12 [00:02:20] <kejsi564> did you heard about ai file ?
13 [00:02:25] <CluelessGuy> can't wait to ditch my damn
windows forever. finally.
14 [00:02:40] <kejsi564> its basically some kind of image
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16 [00:02:47] <kejsi564> i never heard about it
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18 [00:02:54] <kejsi564> i cant open it
19 [00:02:55] <ghormoon> cruncher: there are 3 people with 3
keys and I want to have info who has which in case of revocation
needed later - which keyslot to nuke
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21 [00:03:32] <ghormoon> but luksKeyAdd -v --debug shows it :)
22 [00:03:37] <ghormoon> so that's solved
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24 [00:05:30] <CluelessGuy> hope i can hop onto irc when debian
gnome is installed without any problems
25 [00:05:43] <kejsi564> markybob any idea about this ?
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27 [00:05:56] <markybob> kejsi564: no
28 [00:06:06] <kejsi564> oh ok
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31 [00:06:43] <CluelessGuy> darn it my dl from the debian server
markybob linked always aborts after a few hundred MB :/
32 [00:06:45] <cruncher> ghormoon, you can also open the device
with parameter --test-passphrase, which will not activate the device
but only verify the passphrase
33 [00:06:50] <CluelessGuy> someone doesn't want me to
install it lol
34 [00:06:54] <cruncher> like that you should be able to see
which was what
35 [00:07:01] <markybob> CluelessGuy: use the torrent then
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37 [00:07:23] <markybob> CluelessGuy:
replaced-url
38 [00:07:31] <CluelessGuy> wow thanks!°
39 [00:07:42] <cruncher> ghormoon, but you dont need to specifiy
the slot, just enter the passphrase of the related person and it
will delete the correct slot
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41 [00:08:10] <ghormoon> cruncher: but I don't know the
other passphrases, this is a fallback in case of stolen laptop etc.
42 [00:08:24] <ghormoon> so I can nuke the keys without knowing
them, I don't know keys of the other people
43 [00:08:33] <cruncher> ok
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62 [00:17:12] <cruncher> leetcool, still looking for 1.1? :)
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64 [00:18:19] <kejsi564> markybob gimp actually supports that
file type
65 [00:18:25] <kejsi564> it just did not show the preview
66 [00:18:32] <kejsi564> thank you for eveyrything
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69 [00:21:19] <leetcool> cruncher, yes for learning things
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72 [00:21:35] <cruncher> leetcool, i can give you the disks
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75 [00:21:41] <cruncher> i think there is no iso of buzz
76 [00:22:01] <cruncher> leetcool, you can download them here:
replaced-url
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78 [00:23:28] <leetcool> cruncher, thank for that link. can you
guide me to get it running in any virtual emulator or something like
that?
79 [00:23:37] <leetcool> *thanks
80 [00:23:50] <cruncher> just use virtualbox, it can hanlde
floppy images
81 [00:24:00] <cruncher> and its quite an easy one
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84 [00:25:24] <cruncher> on the other hand, im not sure if it
can emulate 386/486 and such
85 [00:25:43] <leetcool> which floppy image shall i select ?
there are too many bin files
86 [00:25:57] <cruncher> you can also try qemu, but i coult tell
you all you need to do here, you would have to google for some
instructions
87 [00:26:04] <cruncher> *but i couldnt
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89 [00:26:38] <cruncher> leetcool, just read the install file
90 [00:26:41] <cruncher> its all there
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94 [00:28:37] <leetcool> thanks cruncher i'm reading
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147 [00:59:46] <SimbaLion> If I do apt-get remove package
--purge, and rm -rf /etc/package, why doesn't apt-get install
package re-install the folder under /etc?
148 [01:00:16] <markybob> !confmiss
149 [01:00:16] <dpkg> You have to especially tell the packaging
system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is
assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o
DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall
$packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the
package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about
<ucf confmiss>.
150 [01:00:37] <SimbaLion> thanks
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182 [01:15:49] <fryguy128> I installed the package libxml2 which
should have installed the command xmlcatalog. Every time I try to
use this command however, bash returns a command not found. Any idea
what to do from here? I'm running Sparky Linux i686.
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189 [01:19:26] <nkuttler> !tell about apt-file
190 [01:19:32] <nkuttler> !tell fryguy128 about apt-file
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192 [01:19:42] <nkuttler> !find bin/xmlcatalog
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195 [01:20:45] <jmcnaught> fryguy128: it's also quite
possible that Sparky has done something different than Debian, which
is the reason that derivatives like Sparky are not supported here.
Sparky probably has its own channel
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207 [01:27:16] <fryguy128> I found the problem. The command
changed somewhere along the way. Thanks
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257 [02:05:01] <JustinHitla> I installed some addon in firefox,
and then I switched profile, how to get that addon to another
profile without installing in every profile ?
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263 [02:07:18] <teraflops> JustinHitla: how many profiles do you
have? like 50?
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274 [02:13:36] <kcirick> Hi, I have a problem on openbox where
right click on desktop doesn't show the menu... I pinpointed
the issue being connected with scim. It also seems that scim is
being launched somewhere but I dont know where... can someone help
me with this?
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277 [02:14:11] <roger`> does anyone uses Ssh-HPN here ?
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295 [02:19:14] <jmcnaught> JustinHitla: lots of addons are
available as Debian packages, look for packages that start with
xul-ext-
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308 [02:24:09] <VladimirVolkov> Эээ, куды лошадь запрягать?
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310 [02:24:25] <markybob> !ru
311 [02:24:25] <dpkg> Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста,
говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian
(irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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313 [02:26:08] <VladimirVolkov> markybob, are you afraid of
russian speakers?
314 [02:26:25] <markybob> terrified. or it's just off topic
in here. pick one.
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322 [02:28:27] <VladimirVolkov> markybob, I guess ! means
'not'.
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326 [02:29:52] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: it is a symbol that
trigers a factoid from the bot dpkg
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328 [02:32:06] <VladimirVolkov> somiaj, I'm a great eng
speaker. And I don't need any factoid from the bot dpkg
329 [02:32:41] <markybob> well then. this will go far.
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331 [02:34:21] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: It was mearly trying to
point you to a russian speaking channel if you wanted one. If you
have a question about debian, it is prefered you ask in english here
332 [02:35:16] <VladimirVolkov> I want to learn how to compile
apps in debian from the sources. Is there any wiki page?
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335 [02:36:04] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: do you want to just
compile a current debian source package into a .deb, or make your
own .deb, or just how would you compile/install an app that is not
part of debian?
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338 [02:37:19] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: for info on making .deb
packages, the debian new matainers guide is a good start.
339 [02:37:45] <VladimirVolkov> somiaj, I want to download src
code of chosen app from stable tree and to compile and install it on
my 8.5 debian
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341 [02:38:23] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: can you clarify what you
mean by stable tree? What app are we talking about?
342 [02:38:24] <markybob> sound like you need to read their
README
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344 [02:40:04] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: provided you install the
app in /usr/local or /home, you can usually just follow the comiple
instructions from the upstream source.
345 [02:40:37] <somiaj> and I mean /home/username
346 [02:41:22] <beatnick> hello guys, i'm a new debian user,
and i need some help.
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348 [02:41:27] <somiaj> VladimirVolkov: There are some useful
tools like stow or check-install to help manage app compiled from
source (many choose to do this over building the app into a .deb
apcakge)
349 [02:41:29] <beatnick> apt-get install akregator
350 [02:41:44] <beatnick> E: Unable to correct problems, you have
held broken packages.
351 [02:41:55] <VladimirVolkov> somiaj, stable brach of apps. Any
apps) I got you. Thanks! Also I found the debian new matainers guide
Is good for me)
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353 [02:42:16] <beatnick> anybody knows how i fix this?
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355 [02:42:33] <somiaj> beatnick: what version of debian are you
running. Care to paste the output of apt-cache policy and apt-cache
policy akregator at paste.debian.net
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357 [02:43:00] <VladimirVolkov> somiaj, OK. I guess stow and
check-install are gonna help later) Thanks!
358 [02:43:05] <beatnick> somiaj, it's PurismOS.
359 [02:43:21] <simonlnu> !based on debian
360 [02:43:21] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare
replaced-url
361 [02:43:37] <somiaj> beatnick: well this is a #debian channel,
it would be best if you use the support of PurismOS to figure out
what is wrong with yours or their sources.
362 [02:45:29] <beatnick> Purism doesn't really has a very
slow support (it's a startup), and their OS is debian based, so
i thought i would get an answer here.
363 [02:46:12] <markybob> beatnick: thing is, even if we wanted
to, we cant and might cause more harm. we don't know what
they've changed or what's different. it'd actually be
wrong for us to assume.
364 [02:46:43] <JustinHitla> anyone knows how to delete cookies
in firefox ?
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366 [02:47:05] <markybob> JustinHitla: did you try google?
c'mon
367 [02:47:12] <HallerH> firefox is nor part of debian
GNU/Linux,please go to a different channel;)
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369 [02:47:14] <JustinHitla> I usually do ">
.mozilla/firefox/38gbjzmh.new/cookies.sqlite"
370 [02:47:21] <markybob> HallerH: it is
371 [02:47:27] <beatnick> JustinHitla, preferences, privacy,
delete cookies.
372 [02:47:39] <JustinHitla> is this ">
.mozilla/firefox/38gbjzmh.new/cookies.sqlite" a safe ?
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377 [02:48:39] <HallerH> in debian gnu/linux 8 it's still
branded as iceweasel, isn't it?;)
378 [02:49:18] <markybob> HallerH: not anymore
379 [02:49:21] <somiaj> HallerH: it will switch sometime, and if
you want, you can get the packages from mozilla.debian.net
380 [02:49:21] <markybob> ,v firefox-esr
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382 [02:49:23] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- stretch:
45.1.1esr-1+b1; wheezy-security: 45.2.0esr-1~deb7u1;
jessie-proposed-updates: 45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security:
45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1; sid: 45.2.0esr-1
383 [02:49:30] <somiaj> oh yea, there was a recent security fix
that changed it over
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386 [02:52:05] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
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388 [02:52:27] <HallerH> but firefox is just in the backports and
as far as i know only the stable branch is considert to be the real
"debian gnu/linux" distribution, isn't it?
389 [02:52:44] <somiaj> HallerH: no, it is now in jessie via
debian security
390 [02:52:46] <markybob> HallerH: no. didnt you see what i had
judd paste? jessie security
391 [02:53:00] <somiaj> HallerH: if you have security.debian.org
sources your iceweasel package should automatically install
firefox-esr
392 [02:53:01] <HallerH> the side says "apt-get install -t
jessie-backports firefox"
393 [02:53:17] <HallerH> ok, thanks
394 [02:53:53] <jmcnaught> JustinHitla: ctrl+shift+delete in
firefox (and chromium) brings up the clear history dialogue where
you can clear cookies
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397 [02:54:12] <winterss> hi
398 [02:54:41] <jmcnaught> the recent iceweasel to firefox-esr
transition in jessie does mean that you need to do an "apt-get
dist-upgrade" instead of just an "upgrade"
399 [02:55:36] <JustinHitla> jmcnaught: thanks
400 [02:55:55] <JustinHitla> jmcnaught: I think I will use
"destruction" addon
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405 [02:56:25] <jmcnaught> JustinHitla: firefox also has an
option to delete cookies on exit
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408 [02:57:14] <JustinHitla> right, but I prefer delete without
exiting firefox
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411 [02:58:05] <JustinHitla> can come in handy when you
registered on some web site and want reload the web site again but
without old cookies from that web site
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413 [02:59:25] <jmcnaught> JustinHitla: you don't need an
add-on for that in Firefox either. Get to the page info with Ctrl+i,
click on security, click on view cookies
414 [02:59:37] <HallerH> i use the delete cookies on exit-option,
too
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417 [03:00:49] <HallerH> but lot's of people use the
"self destructing cookies"-plugin
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428 [03:06:40] <LtL> how can i get iceweasel to update, apt-cache
policy iceweasel >
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429 [03:07:09] <LtL> its being held back, jessie 8.5
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432 [03:07:24] <jmcnaught> LtL: this one needs an "apt-get
dist-upgrade" it will make iceweasel a transitional package and
install firefox-esr
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434 [03:08:00] <LtL> jmcnaught: ah, that didn't occur to
me.. thanks :)
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439 [03:10:15] <kcirick> Hi... I'm trying to type an
accented character, but I'm not sure if I have it set up
correctly... I think I have AltGr set to ralt, but when I do
AltGr+"+a doesn't give me "a umlaut".. How can I
check if AltGr is set correctly?
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462 [03:34:03] <kcirick> i guess everyone's out partying
tonight... it's not usually this quiet in here is it?
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467 [03:35:06] <cruncher> i guess all people here are more linux
than party :D
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469 [03:35:36] <jmcnaught> kcirick: hey, it does get quiet
sometimes. i assume if someone knew they would say something. i
switch to a different keyboard layout when i need accents
470 [03:36:24] <pingouin> debian is dead :) and irc more dead :)
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472 [03:36:36] <kcirick> jmcnaught: I found a typo in my config,
so it's all good
473 [03:36:55] <cruncher> pingouin, debian dead? how can you say
that
474 [03:36:59] <polyzen> long live debian
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476 [03:37:09] <kcirick> i think he meant this channel
477 [03:37:27] <pingouin> joking guys :)
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479 [03:38:05] <markybob> it's still not dead. it's
just polite to say nothing if you have nothing to add. imagine 1500
people saying "i dont know"
480 [03:38:54] <cruncher> :D
481 [03:39:02] <cruncher> honestly, it would be fun to see that
once :)
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483 [03:39:23] <LtL> heh, true
484 [03:39:24] <kcirick> markybob: there's usually some
off-topic conversation here, no?
485 [03:39:35] <pingouin> there is a channel for that
486 [03:39:36] <markybob> kcirick: that's what
#debian-offtopic is for
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488 [03:40:35] <kcirick> Heh, didn't know there was a
separate channel for offtopic. Good to know... I think I'll
waste time there instead
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565 [04:33:44] <wlan2> So, I was cooking a livecd and thought,
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567 [04:34:20] <wlan2> Any ideas?
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596 [05:01:12] <RippyDippy> hey guys, does anyone here know how
best to funnell all internet traffic through TOR
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598 [05:02:26] <LtL> RippyDippy: get a VPS, not a debian topic
sorry
599 [05:02:55] <RippyDippy> LtL: No need to apologize, this is
usually the first place I check
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603 [05:04:05] <LtL> RippyDippy: actually a VPN will work
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606 [05:04:57] <RippyDippy> LtL: Any suggested vpns. I use PIA on
other machines, but never tried getting it going on a linux box
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609 [05:05:32] <LtL> RippyDippy: no idea really
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611 [05:06:43] <RippyDippy> LtL: I'll start with openvpn I
guess
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616 [05:09:49] <LtL> RippyDippy: good luck, g'night :)
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650 [05:41:34] <crafty1> RippyDippy: If you have PIA you can get
it going easy on GNU/Linux. GO to their downloads page and download
the OpenVPN config files. you can use them on any distro
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652 [05:43:36] <RippyDippy> crafty1: Yeah I figured it out. took
5 minutes. I just needed to remember my damn auth info
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719 [06:17:43] <iSlayWyverns> Download Debian8.5-mate.iso ->
bootable usb -> enter Live mode -> install phase ->
proceeds to about half -> message: please insert CDrom Debian
Jessie snapshot...
720 [06:17:45] <iSlayWyverns> What?!
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725 [06:20:14] <iSlayWyverns> why is it so fucking bothersome to
install the system? netinst doesnt include the wlan0 firmware,
download different firmware, live-cd proceeds with error msg and
shit
726 [06:20:43] <iSlayWyverns> just wtf? does this have to do with
laws & copyrights? concluding to so many different isos?
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728 [06:21:00] <RippyDippy> odd question. But I thought rofi in
the debian repos?
729 [06:21:06] * Hatzui Selling server spoofing DDOS contact me! :)
730 [06:22:45] <Strife89> iSlayWyverns: I think the short version
is that the Debian philosophy is to adhere to free, libre open
source software as much as possible. Proprietary firmware blobs just
don't fit that bill.
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733 [06:23:55] * Hatzui Selling server spoofing 450GBPS contact me! :D
734 [06:24:25] <Strife89> iSlayWyverns: "Only software that
complies with the DFSG is allowed in the main distribution of
Debian." From
replaced-url
735 [06:26:14] <Strife89> Some countries and companies have
strict legal restrictions on distribution of "non-free"
software, so there are legit reasons to have things like WiFi
firmware split off.
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755 [06:45:32] <hiexpo> Hi all I havebeen having a problem when
ever I go to a page with videos iceweasel crashes what's the
deal?
756 [06:46:50] <somiaj> hiexpo: I'm unsure there, but I
would upgrade to the newest firefox-esr that is now available to
jessie via security and see if you have the same problem.
757 [06:46:57] <somiaj> hiexpo: I would also check what flash
plugin you have running
758 [06:47:17] <somiaj> or if you are using html5
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761 [06:50:59] <hiexpo> somiaj, firefox-esr
762 [06:51:07] <hiexpo> ?
763 [06:51:24] <ryouma> your iceweasel might ahve already
upgraded to it
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765 [06:51:26] <ryouma> i think
766 [06:51:52] <ryouma> apt-cache can tell you
767 [06:54:04] <hiexpo> I am using latest flash and yes it did
what s\was thatabout html5
768 [06:55:10] <somiaj> hiexpo: if you have security sources you
should run apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade
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770 [06:57:16] <awwal> hiexpo, iceweasel (firefox-esr, now)
crashes bcoz of the outdated adobe flash, almost sure :P
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772 [06:57:35] <hiexpo> somiaj, okay thats probally it cause i
did dist upgrade and it's doing icewheasel and esr
773 [06:57:42] <awwal> try pepperflash + freshplayer
774 [06:57:47] <hiexpo> somiaj, thank you
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777 [07:02:48] <somiaj> hiexpo: it may not fix your problem, but
I would at least debug the new security update as opposed to the
older iceweasel.
778 [07:03:40] <hiexpo> somiaj, okay thanks
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782 [07:09:15] <hiexpo> somiaj, that fixed it thanks
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822 [08:12:29] <ByteStorm> guys how do i use lm-sensors???
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825 [08:17:17] <jmcnaught> ByteStorm: did you read
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826 [08:17:32] <ByteStorm> no
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846 [08:45:04] <dka> I am trying to run #postgresql using #docker
and #marathon. The #postgresql server fail to start because of the
original `shared_buffers` value `256MB`. I have to decrease this
value to `10MB` to be able to run my container. I have allocated in
#mesos 2GB of RAM for this instance. Looking at #postgresql
documentation, the correct value should be 1/4 of the RAM meaning to
me `512MB`. 1) Can anyone tell me how to set this value correctly ?
2) What
847 [08:45:08] <dka> would be the risk to keep this value to
`10MB` in a production environment ?
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853 [08:48:13] <jmcnaught> dka: #postgresql is probably a better
place to ask
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872 [09:20:02] <lrvick> are stretch repos broken right now?
replaced-url
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879 [09:25:58] <babilen> lrvick: Try a regional mirror such as
ftp.XX.debian.org with XX in {uk,de,tw,us,...} --
replaced-url
880 [09:26:17] <babilen> Or a specific one listed on that website
881 [09:26:44] <babilen> (or just wait)
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885 [09:28:18] <CQ> hello, I want to boot debian (the whole
system) off a USB stick... any suggestions on how to do that? all
teh links seem to be for USB installations etc.
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887 [09:30:17] <babilen> CQ:
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888 [09:31:28] <CQ> babilen can I just take a working
installation and dd the partition over and use grub to find it?
889 [09:32:34] <CQ> problem is I have a rack server that only
holds 2 HDDs, so I want to install the OS on USB
890 [09:33:43] <babilen> No need for dd in these situations (cp
will work just fine and will probably be faster), but generally
speaking that would be an approach. The tricky bit is getting the
"boot from USB" part right.
891 [09:34:19] <babilen> You'd also have to change
filesystem references and whatnot in the image
892 [09:34:24] <babilen> Feels like a lot of work
893 [09:34:56] <CQ> I don't mind using a live disk, but I
want to be able to install packages, security updates etc.
894 [09:35:21] <CQ>
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895 [09:35:21] <ByteStorm> hey CQ do you hav a debian installer
done on some storage....like a pendrive???
896 [09:35:41] <CQ> ByteStorm: not yet, just checking what ptions
make the most sense
897 [09:35:42] <ByteStorm> I hav my debian installed on a
pendrive
898 [09:36:34] <babilen> CQ: I mean you can install Debian on an
external harddrive and just install grub there and all that.
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900 [09:37:04] <CQ> babilen external USB harddrive? that
isn' ttreated like a USB stick? then that's teh easiest
thing to do
901 [09:37:28] <CQ> what's the diff between USD HDD and USB
stick?
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905 [09:39:01] <babilen> The size I'd say
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907 [09:39:12] <CQ> size is irrelevant, 16GB is more than enough
908 [09:39:19] <CQ> this is just for booting
909 [09:39:39] <babilen> Yeah, it doesn't make a difference
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911 [09:40:18] <CQ> so I can use a netinst image and just install
to a USB stick... perfect. Somehow I thought there were problems
installing to USB media generally
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914 [09:43:45] <babilen> CQ: You should also be able to just
create a filesystem on the stick, debootstrap Debian on it, write
/etc/fstab, /etc/mtab and then install grub on it.
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1063 [10:57:08] <iSlayWyverns> Debian 8.x is stable?
1064 [10:57:16] <iSlayWyverns> *is the stable branch?
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1076 [11:01:20] <dutchfish> !tell iSlayWyverns about releases
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1084 [11:07:44] <calimero_82> hi
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1088 [11:08:40] <calimero_82> how can i install usb wifi? thanks
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1099 [11:12:13] <epsilon> like any other WiFi... what do lsusb,
iwconfig say?
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1109 [11:16:06] <calimero_82> i've done lsusb, and now?
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1118 [11:18:32] <epsilon> as the oracle--- or the read the output
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1220 [12:05:09] <dionysus69> how do I make audio switch to hdmi
automatically on connect? currently I have to do it manually with
pulseaudio
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1239 [12:12:10] <julius_> hi
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1246 [12:15:07] <julius_> i installed a new debian with
debootstrap onto a seperate partition and i did run update-grub. but
at boot time grub does only show debian/linux. it was installed onto
the lvm partition; /dev/t560-vg/ubuntu15.04 ( the name is old, im
sure i installed debian to it) grep ubuntu /boot/grub/grub.cfg shows
notjing?
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1248 [12:16:10] <julius_> grub shows things like:
root=/dev/mapper/t560--vg-root so there should also be a entry
containing the string ubuntu, right?
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1280 [12:39:08] <die7> I am looking for a systemwide audio
equalizer for Debian, but no luck
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1289 [12:43:19] <unborn> die7: usually good speakers have it self
equaliser.. there are some plugins for applications I guess but not
system wide.. I mean its computer - it should produce nice crispy
sound which indeed does.. so equaliser option is left on external
audio
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1291 [12:44:07] <unborn> same with proper audio setup - in short -
I dont think so there is an equaliser for system wide to be used
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1294 [12:45:10] <die7> sure, but you know sometime I wish to have
louder bass or other things or just to play around
1295 [12:45:56] <die7> I saw it for pulse on gnome but I use kde
1296 [12:45:56] <unborn> die7: I know, all I can advice is getting
better stereo setup
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1298 [12:46:10] <die7> unborn: :)
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1305 [12:49:28] <hexnewbie> die7: There's an equaliser plugin
for ALSA. You can equalise using alsamixer. You could make it your
default sound card, unfortunately you'd either have to do away
with Pulseaudio, or somehow force it to use the plugin as a sink
(which it can IIRC, but is not recommended by PA people)
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1307 [12:50:11] <hexnewbie> die7: The package is
libasound2-plugin-equal
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1309 [12:50:38] <die7> unborn: cool bro, will look right now,
thjank you so much!
1310 [12:51:07] <die7> hexnewbie:
1311 [12:51:22] <die7> hexnewbie: sorry I mean and tahn you
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1314 [12:52:28] <hexnewbie> die7: There's also a pulseaudio
equalizer sink, which is an alternative:
replaced-url
1315 [12:52:59] <hexnewbie> die7: The PA one is probably preferred
if you use PA, and you're unfamiliar with ALSA.
1316 [12:53:14] <die7> hexnewbie: woow I really thank you for help
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1318 [12:54:07] <Anonymes> Hi
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1321 [12:56:31] <die7> hexnewbie: PA is def for debina and KDE or
..sorry im somehow new
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1323 [12:56:47] <die7> hexnewbie: or alsa?
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1331 [12:59:25] <hexnewbie> die7: Yeah, the default is PulseAudio
(if it is installed, and I believe it is installed by default too),
which then uses ALSA as an audio sink. That means that you
technically use either of those equalisers. The PA equaliser plugin
is buggy, but sounds easier to setup (at the very least, if
you'd used the ALSA one, you'd need to reconfigure both
ALSA and PA to use it)
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1334 [13:00:15] <die7> hexnewbie: thank you bro, I will not steal
your time more..will try with both sugesttions
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1337 [13:00:33] <winterss> hi
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1341 [13:01:38] <jiggawattz> Yo
1342 [13:01:48] <jiggawattz> When is Debian going to adopt the
Upstart init system?
1343 [13:02:29] <Brigo> jiggawattz, debian is already using it
(not by default), but it is deprecated.
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1347 [13:03:09] <wlan2> So, I was cooking a livecd and thought,
how can I possibly make the squashfs smaller?
1348 [13:03:32] <hexnewbie> jiggawattz: upstart was removed end of
last year, it is available in jessie, but it is not going to be in
stretch
1349 [13:03:48] <jiggawattz> ehh
1350 [13:03:49] <jiggawattz> fuck it
1351 [13:03:52] <jiggawattz> alright thanks
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1353 [13:03:57] * jiggawattz can live with systemd
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1409 [13:25:17] <Meerkat> I need some help. I run Debian 8 with
xfce and for some reason a random web browser appears when I open a
link from hexchat, icedove, or skype instead of the one I picked in
Preferred Applications.
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1411 [13:27:28] <Wulf> Meerkat: man update-alternatives
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1413 [13:27:48] <ByteStorm> hey guys whats the port of http and
https
1414 [13:27:56] <ByteStorm> im configuring apf-firewall
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1416 [13:28:01] <Wulf> ByteStorm: really?
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1418 [13:28:09] <ByteStorm> why??
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1420 [13:28:49] <ByteStorm> plus ftp and torrents
1421 [13:28:50] <Wulf> ByteStorm: web server operators may choose
any port they want. And some do.
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1424 [13:29:45] <Meerkat> Wulf, I see, chrome has put itself at
the top again. But chromium is sometimes opened and it still has the
lowest priority.
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1427 [13:30:13] <shutdownFr> Hi
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1432 [13:31:23] <shutdownFr> there was a storm, then my notebook
was without power and turned off ..
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1434 [13:32:52] <shutdownFr> now i have just made an upgrade (via
apt) so i wanted to reboot it and do an auto check of the fs
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1437 [13:33:17] <shutdownFr> i used "shutdown -rF now"
.. but it gives me a strange error message:
1438 [13:33:18] <shutdownFr> Code should not be reached
'Unhandled option' at ../src/systemctl/systemctl.c:6316,
function shutdown_parse_argv(). Aborting.
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1441 [13:34:34] <shutdownFr> i also read "man shutdown"
and "shutdown --help" but there is no trace here of the
"-F" option. Has it been removed in some last version of
shutdown ?
1442 [13:35:10] <shutdownFr> i am using "Debian GNU/Linux 8.5
(jessie)"
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1444 [13:35:53] <shutdownFr> maybe the switching from initd to
systemd changed the shutdown option and now "-F" is no
more possible ?
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1449 [13:37:22] <ByteStorm> Wulf you there
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1456 [13:41:19] <Meerkat> I hope it stays this time. Thanks!
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1467 [13:44:53] <ByteStorm> guys whats the port number of
ftp,https,http and torrents
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1470 [13:46:14] <qmr> ....
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1474 [13:46:35] <qmr> what's the port number of google, you
useless helpless cretin?
1475 [13:46:35] <unborn> ByteStorm: 21+passive ports, 443, 80, and
for torrents you would need to open range
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1477 [13:46:58] <ByteStorm> ok....can you list them
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1479 [13:47:11] <qmr> can you wipe your ass without assistance?
1480 [13:47:11] <unborn> ByteStorm: consider ftp as not very
reasonable as that is unsecure
1481 [13:47:21] <Brigo> qmr, check them in /etc/services
1482 [13:47:27] <qmr> unborn acting as a google proxy only
encourages his learned helplessness
1483 [13:47:28] <ByteStorm> qmr sorry??
1484 [13:47:58] <qmr> you waste everyone's time by asking
incredibly simple questions without first searching the web or
online documentation
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1486 [13:48:45] <unborn> qmr: you must be well frustrated :) bless
you
1487 [13:49:36] <cruncher> well, apart from that, qmr is right.
ByteStorm should google for things like this, not expecting the info
to be served on a silver plate
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1489 [13:49:51] <qmr> if you build a man a fire he will be warm
for a night. if you set a man on fire he will be warm for the rest
of his life.
1490 [13:49:52] <unborn> ByteStorm: there is page on wikipedia
regards all known ports, it would be best place to visit that page
and found exactly what port for what service you need
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1492 [13:49:57] <rysiek|pl> and yet calling people
"cretins" is not helpful either
1493 [13:50:09] <cruncher> true, insults shouldnt be made
1494 [13:50:11] <ByteStorm> hmm....well i did search the net if my
net conn didnt went off every 3-4 mins
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1496 [13:50:25] <qmr> .... then how are you able to chat on irc
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1498 [13:50:38] <rysiek|pl> ByteStorm: cat /etc/services
1499 [13:50:54] <ByteStorm> now...my lag is 9.6 secs
1500 [13:50:59] <Brigo> qmr, sorry that message was for ByteStorm
(as you could guess) :)
1501 [13:51:09] <rysiek|pl> ByteStorm: you have a lot of services
and its ports specified there
1502 [13:52:22] <unborn> ByteStorm: get better internet services
however I hope so this will helps:
replaced-url
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1505 [13:53:39] <ByteStorm> its 107 bytes...something like tht
1506 [13:53:39] <ByteStorm> hell do you kno whats going on in my
computer???
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1545 [14:13:10] <shutdownFr> mah
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1579 [14:26:21] <Includes08> Does someone in here have experience
with ISPconfig?
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1589 [14:31:54] <RoyK> [sø. juni 12 14:25:23 2016] program
smartctl is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to
SG_IO
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1591 [14:32:02] <RoyK> any idea how to shut this thing up?
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1597 [14:36:53] <Hello71> upgrade smartmontools?
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1600 [14:38:13] <RoyK> Hello71: I don't mix repos - this is
debian jessie
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1602 [14:38:52] <RoyK> Hello71: I was googling a bit and found a
"fix" for this almost a decade back
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1611 [14:42:25] <strncat> im trying to load a native library from
jogl, but it doesnt appear to be in the package, or anywhere i can
find. does debian just not provide the natives for?
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1626 [14:51:41] <strncat> neeevermind.
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1736 [16:01:48] <Nebukadneza> heho
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1741 [16:05:12] <Nebukadneza> i seem to have some problems with
gtk3 / gtk3-theme display on testing. i’m using awesome as a
WM — for one, firefox (47.0) doesn’t display checkboxes
with a border anymore, essentially making unchecked checkboxes and
radio-selects completely invisible
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1745 [16:05:53] <Nebukadneza> also, using scim input, the list of
suggestions that pop up under the cursor when typing
chinese/japanese/etc seems to be rendered grey-on-grey, i.e.
completely invisible (but copy-paste’able!) characters
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1748 [16:08:39] <Nebukadneza> does anyone have an idea about this?
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1765 [16:21:46] <julius_> grub shows things like:
root=/dev/mapper/t560--vg-root so there should also be a entry
containing the string ubuntu, right?
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1837 [16:54:45] <alta23> hi! I had a problem on Debian 8 that
LibreOffice and other software couldn't launch due to user
rights and after reboot i couldn't login to X. I solved it by
"chmod -R ugo+rwx", now it's working but i don't
understand, what can change this by accident or what might happen?
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1850 [16:58:24] <julius_> and on what directory did you run that
chmod command?
1851 [16:59:35] <zykotick9> julius_: you are brave... i was afraid
to ask.
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1854 [16:59:59] <julius_> :)
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1856 [17:00:21] <julius_> whats up today, this channel is deadly
silent?
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1859 [17:00:57] <alta23> on /home/[username]
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1861 [17:01:22] <julius_> that wont hurt, its ok
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1863 [17:01:31] <julius_> somehow you managed to change the
permissions before...
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1865 [17:01:44] <zykotick9> alta23: note - if you run GUI apps
with sudo sometimes some permissions in ~ can become owned by root.
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1868 [17:02:09] <alta23> hmm that might happened
1869 [17:02:12] <alta23> ok, thank you
1870 [17:02:21] <julius_> basically you never need to run gui apps
as root
1871 [17:02:31] <zykotick9> julius_: +1
1872 [17:02:44] <julius_> besides wireshark, but even that can be
prevented
1873 [17:03:00] <zykotick9> hehe, i was also thinking about
wireshark
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1875 [17:03:15] <julius_> anyhow, your system will live alta23
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1877 [17:03:29] <alta23> :D ok thanks for your help
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1879 [17:03:49] <julius_> no problem
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1913 [17:19:42] <maddy> I faced a lot of issues with KDM and X
which resolved only by purging both and re-installing them...now the
YouTube videos lag a lot..any way to fix that? My OpengGL vendor
string says VMware
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1920 [17:23:30] <teraflops> maddy: is that a virtual machine?
1921 [17:23:43] <maddy> teraflops: no
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1923 [17:24:06] <maddy> teraflops: dmesg shows this error : [
3.283405] [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting
for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree.
1924 [17:24:14] <teraflops> then your graphics configuration is
totally borked
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1928 [17:25:02] <maddy> and i don't want to install radeon
drivers because i lose my desktop environment the moment i try
radeon...instead things work for me on my integrated graphics card
from Intel
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1933 [17:27:03] <teraflops> firmware-linux-nonfree is not the gpu
driver, is the firmware
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1935 [17:27:54] <maddy> teraflops: i am absolutely sure installing
that will screw my machine...
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1937 [17:28:20] <teraflops> Im just telling you that
firmware-linux-nonfree is not the gpu driver
1938 [17:28:44] <maddy> ok...
1939 [17:28:52] <towo`> without that firmware the radeon driver
can't work
1940 [17:28:54] <qman__> maddy: it's telling you that it
can't do modesetting because of missing firmware, and that
package is required to use it; if it does break, you can simply
remove that firmware package afterward to get back to where you are
now
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1944 [17:30:10] <maddy> towo, qman__: radeon is somehow not
working on my machine at all...tried it on different
distro...gentoo, ubuntu, debian....it just refuses to work
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1946 [17:30:36] <towo`> i can't believe
1947 [17:30:39] <maddy> only the integrated intel drivers work on
my machine
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1949 [17:30:43] <towo`> but no one knows your hardware
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1951 [17:31:09] <towo`> maddy, if you have hybrid graphics, intel
is the default display out
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1954 [17:31:23] <towo`> and you can use the radeon with using dri
offloading
1955 [17:31:41] <towo`> you can't use the radeon chip as
primary output
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1958 [17:34:58] <teraflops> r600 is like hd3xxx? if yes it works
out of the box with libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati
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1960 [17:35:46] <maddy> towo`: okay..i am not sure how to do
that...i'd however want to stay away from radeon
1961 [17:36:13] <teraflops> maddy: is that a laptop?
1962 [17:36:23] <maddy> teraflops: i don't know about
hd3xxx...but, yes..it used to work fine with libgl1-mesa-dri
xserver-xorg-video-ati...not anymore though
1963 [17:36:42] <maddy> teraflops: yes, it's a laptop dell
Inspiron 14R
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1965 [17:37:34] <teraflops> maddy: hybrid graphics?
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1967 [17:38:57] <maddy> teraflops: it has an on-board integrated
intel graphics chip and a radeon card as well..if that's what
you mean by hybrid
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1970 [17:40:45] <teraflops> maddy: what I meant is how did you
manage to use the dedicated gpu in a laptop, but since you say you
already used it before I guess it's fine
1971 [17:41:28] <teraflops> s/a laptop/that laptop
1972 [17:41:29] <maddy> teraflops: from the little that i
understand...if the system doesn't find the radeon drivers..it
falls back to the dedicated gpu
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1980 [17:44:24] <teraflops> are you sure it's not failing
because the system has 2 gpus and is confused about it? i never
dealt with hybrid intel/ati before but im pretty sure it does not
work out of the box
1981 [17:44:57] <teraflops> at least I guess you need a custom
xorg conf
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1984 [17:45:27] <maddy> teraflops: have been using different
flavors of linux distros which used to work fine out-of-the box
until last year
1985 [17:45:35] <teraflops> ok then
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1988 [17:47:43] <maddy> teraflops: so how should i go ahead with
this? just want to get the integrated graphic card running
normally....the radeon driver has taken a lot of my time and not
worked in the end..so don't even want to give it try
1989 [17:48:07] <teraflops> maddy: which igpu ships that laptop?
1990 [17:49:05] <teraflops> maddy: intel gpu is fine imo if
it's not too old
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1993 [17:49:55] <maddy> teraflops: just let me check the exact
make of igpu....and the intel gpu is fine for my normal development
work....so i can live with that
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1995 [17:50:08] <teraflops> intel hd3000 here works pretty well
except for gaming. xorg and wayland works ok
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1997 [17:50:30] <teraflops> maddy: yeah yuore right
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2002 [17:53:34] <maddy> teraflops: it is hd3000
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2004 [17:54:23] <teraflops> maddy: youre more then fine then
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2006 [17:54:31] <teraflops> than*
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2008 [17:55:58] <maddy> teraflops: so how do i get it to work
fine? currently it seems to be in a mess...even youtube videos keep
lagging
2009 [17:55:59] <maddy> OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. OpenGL
renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 256 bits) OpenGL
version string: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2
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2011 [17:57:07] <teraflops> maddy: do you have
xserver-xorg-video-intel installed?
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2013 [17:58:05] <maddy> teraflops: yes
2014 [17:58:39] <teraflops> maddy: do you have a xorg.conf?
2015 [17:58:49] <maddy> teraflops: yes
2016 [17:58:55] <towo`> i would like to see the Xorg.0.log
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2020 [17:59:11] <towo`> and a xorg.conf is not needed at all
2021 [17:59:20] <teraflops> maddy: you dnot need one for intel
gpu, give try to moving it away
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2024 [17:59:49] <teraflops> maddy: then restart X
2025 [18:00:09] <maddy> teraflops: ok...i'll try that
2026 [18:00:11] <teraflops> maddy: if the vmware thing persists
please paste your xrog log
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2030 [18:00:18] <maddy> alright
2031 [18:00:27] <maddy> be back soon
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2035 [18:02:01] <teraflops> well you dont even need
xserver-xorg-video-intel at all for intel HD3000 modesetting works
great with that gpu
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2041 [18:04:51] <maddy> teraflops: it worked..thanks! :]
2042 [18:05:04] <teraflops> good
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2045 [18:05:20] <jelly> dpkg, tell Nebukadneza about debian-next
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2047 [18:06:47] <teraflops> maddy: intel hd3000 is good gpu for
all but gaming, including 1080p video playing even doing hw-dec
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2051 [18:09:06] <maddy> teraflops: yes...all i need is youtube,
game of thrones and android screen share..all of them work
reasonably alright
2052 [18:09:14] <teraflops> yeah
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2055 [18:09:45] <teraflops> if you care about battery life while
playing videos take a look at vaapi
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2067 [18:12:04] <ggherdov> Hello. What's the debian way of
setting a new DNS server? you can just go change /etc/resolv.conf
and be done with it?
2068 [18:12:04] <ggherdov> I am connecting to a VPN w/ openvpn,
and I pull the DNS server address from openvpn. There is a callback
script I can use to do stuff at begin and end of a connection, and
there I'm suppose to change my DNS.
2069 [18:12:23] <Wulf> ggherdov: resolvconf
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2071 [18:12:42] <Wulf> ggherdov: I assume that openvpn was already
setup to use this software
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2073 [18:14:05] <ggherdov> Wulf: you mean the openvpn server
pushes the DNS server info? yes. About using resolvconf, I
understand you're pretty much on your own for the method of
setting the DNS in your (client) system
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2075 [18:15:10] <ggherdov> I found a couple of example script to
use as "setup/teardown", one uses resolvconf and one uses
an openSUSE thing (netconfig).
2076 [18:15:12] <teraflops> ggherdov: afaik resolv.conf will be
overwritten no matter what you do, or at list it appends your ovpn
server to the existing ones, a bit unsecure if you ask me
2077 [18:15:43] <teraflops> ggherdov: what i do is using unbound,
since my dns server is always 127.0.0.1 im fine
2078 [18:16:09] <Wulf> ggherdov: openvpn can push the settings,
yes. No, you're not on your own, there's a program called
"resolvconf" which handles all changes to /etc/resolv.conf
2079 [18:16:30] <Wulf> ggherdov: and openvpn should have support
for using it
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2081 [18:17:23] <ggherdov> Wulf: teraflops: thanks, will go read
more docs.
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2085 [18:20:05] <teraflops> when I said it appends your ovpn
server i meant the dns server the ovpn server pushes
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2091 [18:21:31] <ggherdov> teraflops: sure
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2094 [18:22:10] <vahe1> hi good people, like to make an exception
apt-get autoremove ,that would not have removed specific packages?
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2096 [18:22:51] <vahe1> to make an exception apt-get autoremove
2097 [18:22:54] <teraflops> install the package explicitly?
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2101 [18:23:36] <vahe1> teraflops: it is necessary to leave
packages
2102 [18:23:47] <teraflops> if you install it explicitly
it'll not get auto-removed if i remember correctly
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2106 [18:25:14] <vahe1> teraflops: I removed teamviewer ,but for
some reason it works as root in the case that it can work and
user.that's not trust,but if you do not set the library will
not work
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2108 [18:25:48] <teraflops> vahe1: teamviewer is not in the repos
2109 [18:26:23] <vahe1> I deleted the program,but I have to leave
the library
2110 [18:26:35] <vahe1> yes know
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2113 [18:26:50] <vahe1> but the packages have
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2116 [18:27:14] <teraflops> also if I understood, you remove
teamviewer and then apt suggest you to run autoremove and a list of
packages, what I mean is that you install that lib package
explicitly so apt-get autoremove will not uninstall it
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2119 [18:27:44] <Agenomoto> I want to scan and auto fix ALL
problems in disk wherever possible. Can anyone tell the fsck
command? its ext4 FS? sudo fsck -AayVr /dev/sda4 ?
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2122 [18:28:19] <vahe1> teraflops: tell me how to use teamviewer
without using root or tell me how to add in exception packets for
example libice6:i386 libjpeg62-turbo:i386 libsm6:i386 libx11-6:i386
libxau6:i386
2123 [18:28:56] <teraflops> vahe1: no what I tell you is that
teamviewer is risky as hell this days
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2126 [18:30:07] * unborn agree with teraflops
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2128 [18:30:30] <vahe1> teraflops: Yes I know but no alternative
,I just need to help a friend fix a computer,I say don't use
it, but no alternative
2129 [18:30:43] <unborn> vahe1: you can use teamviewer without
root, of course you can, just install it and then just run it
2130 [18:30:47] <teraflops> vahe1: also Im sorry but I have no
idea about teamviewer in debian
2131 [18:30:58] <unborn> vahe1: ssh, or vnc is good alternative
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2133 [18:31:31] <simonlnu> Agenomoto: man e2fsck
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2138 [18:31:51] <vahe1> unborn: I downloaded the source and wanted
to run inside, but doesn't work without the libraries
2139 [18:31:54] <simonlnu> Agenomoto: you type that in a terminal
2140 [18:32:03] <vahe1> teraflops: thanks
2141 [18:32:05] <vahe1> :)
2142 [18:32:47] <unborn> vahe1: download deb file
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2144 [18:32:59] <vahe1> unborn: I know that ssh vnc but the
problem is that I have not real ip
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2147 [18:33:18] <teraflops> vahe1: teamviewer is a weird script
2148 [18:33:28] <vahe1> for vnc have static real ip
2149 [18:33:35] <simonlnu> vahe1: so how are you connecting here,
the ether?
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2154 [18:34:03] <unborn> ah vahe1 that is not that big issue :)
you can write your self script which would check servers ip for
every 10 minutes and if the ip would change it will send you email
about it
2155 [18:34:05] <vahe1> unborn: deb file installed on the root
2156 [18:34:13] <unborn> or use no-ip
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2158 [18:34:44] <vahe1> I hate teamviewer, but what if there is no
alternative
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2162 [18:35:37] <vahe1> simonlnu: what does this have to vnc?
2163 [18:35:41] <unborn> *with new ip vahe1 so you always will be
able to connect
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2165 [18:36:48] <tako> kde plasma 5 is ready for jessie ?
2166 [18:36:52] <vahe1> unborn: no-ip don't trust :(
2167 [18:37:07] <simonlnu> tako: no
2168 [18:37:15] <unborn> vahe1: i would trust them more then
teamviewer thats for sure heh
2169 [18:37:42] <teraflops> lel you dont trust no-ip but you trus
teamviewer…
2170 [18:37:47] <teraflops> trust*
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2175 [18:38:53] <vahe1> teraflops: I don't trust and
teamviewer i no-ip I don't trust anything that is not GPL
2176 [18:39:05] <vahe1> GPL forever :D
2177 [18:39:07] <teraflops> the only thing youll miss could be
transversal nat
2178 [18:39:18] <teraflops> or the silly chat
2179 [18:40:21] <vahe1> friends, I just need what would like to
make an exception for packages removal
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2181 [18:40:27] <teraflops> no-ip aka use whatever dynamic dns
service you want then
2182 [18:40:31] <teraflops> heh
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2184 [18:40:40] <teraflops> yeah sorry
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2188 [18:41:49] <vahe1> teraflops: it's your opinion :) I
will never trust if you do not see the source + GPL license AGPL :)
2189 [18:42:42] <teraflops> vahe1: I bail on this conversation,
sorry, no offense intended
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2193 [18:43:54] <vahe1> teraflops: well,I I it is important that
you trust,I just need to know how to make the exception
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2196 [18:45:12] <unborn> vahe1: as i said you can write like 7
line code which will check your the machines IP for every 10 minutes
or so and if the ip would change it will send you an email with new
changed ip.. that way your own code only, no 3th party in and you
can use ssh
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2199 [18:45:51] <vahe1> unborn: my ip not my personal real ip
2200 [18:46:03] <vahe1> here is my ip
2201 [18:46:13] <vahe1> 130.193.124.135
2202 [18:46:29] <vahe1> try to connect
2203 [18:46:31] <vahe1> :D
2204 [18:46:34] <teraflops> vahe1: wget
replaced-url
2205 [18:46:54] <unborn> vahe1: pesonal or real? you mean aka
internal or external?
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2209 [18:47:12] <unborn> teraflops: exactly I use that link in my
script and it works just fine
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2211 [18:47:25] <simonlnu> that's an external IP, obviously.
2212 [18:47:34] <teraflops> vahe1: as I said youll miss
transversal nat
2213 [18:47:37] <teraflops> simonlnu: yeah
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2215 [18:48:11] <vahe1> unborn: my ip for the village :)
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2218 [18:49:09] <unborn> vahe1: if that is internal ip, then
simply setup static ip on it and write it down or put it into your
hosts with some dummy host name..
2219 [18:49:29] <vahe1> unborn: teraflops
replaced-url
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2221 [18:49:34] <simonlnu> vahe1: your village has one IP address?
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2224 [18:49:46] <vahe1> yes
2225 [18:49:48] <vahe1> :D
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2229 [18:50:23] <simonlnu> vahe1: OK. so you have a router for the
village distributing NAT IPs for various households?
2230 [18:50:27] <teraflops> vahe1: which package do you want to
keep?
2231 [18:50:48] <vahe1> simonlnu: yes :)
2232 [18:50:55] <simonlnu> gotcha
2233 [18:51:19] <vahe1> teraflops: all of these
replaced-url
2234 [18:51:22] <unborn> simonlnu: i just already told him what to
do :)
2235 [18:51:33] <simonlnu> OK, so you'll need to do those
checks via some mechanism.
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2237 [18:51:42] <teraflops> vahe1: apt-get install all-of-them
2238 [18:51:51] <simonlnu> unborn: resolvconf, right?
2239 [18:51:52] <unborn> vahe1: I think you are trying running
unattended access on teamviewer ? is that what you after?
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2242 [18:52:24] <vahe1> teraflops: E: Unable to locate package
all-of-them
2243 [18:52:31] <vahe1> ah
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2245 [18:52:35] <vahe1> sorry
2246 [18:52:37] <teraflops> vahe1: because they are not in the
repos?
2247 [18:52:43] <simonlnu> unborn: i'm asking because it
gives me an idea of what we're dealing with.
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2249 [18:53:07] <vahe1> teraflops: need save libice6:i386
libjpeg62-turbo:i386 libsm6:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxau6:i386
2250 [18:53:07] <vahe1> libxcb1:i386 libxdamage1:i386
libxdmcp6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxfixes3:i386
2251 [18:53:07] <vahe1> libxi6:i386 libxinerama1:i386
libxrandr2:i386 libxrender1:i386 libxtst6:i386
2252 [18:53:15] <vahe1> sorry for spam :)
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2254 [18:53:20] <teraflops> vahe1: just install that all of them
:S
2255 [18:53:32] <simonlnu> vahe1: all-of-them was just a shorthand
for "install all those packages". and don't paste
here, please. the bot will kick you otherwise.
2256 [18:53:34] <unborn> simonlnu: if he got access to switch or
network yes
2257 [18:53:45] <vahe1> all these packages installed
2258 [18:54:03] <teraflops> apt-get install --reinstall them?
2259 [18:54:04] <simonlnu> unborn: s/he'll need to
communicate with the router op to do stuff.
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2262 [18:54:41] <teraflops> unborn: it's doable of course
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2264 [18:55:00] <simonlnu> some stuff anyway.
2265 [18:55:13] <simonlnu> most of it s/he can do him/herself.
2266 [18:55:32] <teraflops> doing nat, map one port to each
machine
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2268 [18:55:47] <unborn> simonlnu: he actually never answered to
me that, but yes I dont think so he have access into network
management and as I see it from convo he does not really know
networking stuff that much (no offence to anyone)
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2273 [18:56:13] <vahe1> teraflops: --reinstall not help (
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2275 [18:56:52] <teraflops> also with one machine, you rdesktop
there then rdesktop from that machine to the rest
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2278 [18:57:37] <teraflops> I assume rdesktop since he wanted
teamviewer
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2280 [18:58:12] <teraflops> vahe1: what did apt say? it does not
help?
2281 [18:58:13] <unborn> vahe1: I use teamviewer occasionally to
help folks and mates here on irc and installed on debian without
issue
2282 [18:59:15] <unborn> needless to say teamviewer has been
compromised last month (also this moth too)
2283 [18:59:20] <vahe1> teraflops: I reinstalled the package ,not
help
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2288 [19:00:05] <x23wrbird> alguien me explica como se instala un
servidor irc y como poner contraseña a un canal?
2289 [19:00:24] <vahe1> unborn: thanks,the problem is that I also
installed,but the program works on the root
2290 [19:00:26] <teraflops> x23wrbird: pregunta en #debian-es o
pregunta aqui pero en ingles
2291 [19:00:56] <unborn> vahe1: so remove it, and install it as
normal user heh
2292 [19:01:03] <x23wrbird> how can i intall a irc server and how
can i put a password in my channel?
2293 [19:01:17] <simonlnu> !pt
2294 [19:01:17] <dpkg> Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em
portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join
#debian-pt )
2295 [19:01:29] <teraflops> simonlnu: hey it's spanish
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2297 [19:01:42] <simonlnu> thanks
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2299 [19:01:49] <x23wrbird> yes it was spanish but
2300 [19:01:50] <teraflops> you want to install ircd? that's
not debian related
2301 [19:01:54] <x23wrbird> yes
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2303 [19:02:05] <x23wrbird> where can i ask those things
2304 [19:02:11] <x23wrbird> ?
2305 [19:02:13] <teraflops> google is fine I guess
2306 [19:02:19] <unborn> x23wrbird: one second
2307 [19:02:19] <x23wrbird> XD
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2309 [19:02:23] <teraflops> x23wrbird: heh
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2311 [19:02:42] <kcirick> Hi... If i wanted to install a more
recent programs than in the repo (jessie), for example, libreoffice,
what's the best way to go about it?
2312 [19:02:47] <vahe1> teraflops: unborn I removed teamviever,but
packages stayed when I do autoremove suggests to remove what is left
of teamviewer,but that would be to run source I have to write these
libraries
2313 [19:02:57] <unborn> x23wrbird: here ya go:
replaced-url
2314 [19:03:08] <unborn> use google next time ^^^^
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2317 [19:03:21] <x23wrbird> thank you XD
2318 [19:03:23] <kcirick> For libreoffice, is it safe to go ahead
and download latest version from their website?
2319 [19:03:30] <vahe1> unborn: well tell me how to install that
would not work for root
2320 [19:03:45] <simonlnu> kcirick: check backports
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2323 [19:04:05] <simonlnu> !backports
2324 [19:04:05] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian
branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency
and <ABI> complications.
replaced-url
2325 [19:04:14] <unborn> vahe1: log in as user then su command to
install and you are done
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2327 [19:04:51] <kcirick> simonlnu: thanks... I'll go there
for libreoffice.. I also want homebank, but that's not in
backports
2328 [19:04:53] <babilen> judd: v libreoffice-writer
--release=jessie-backports
2329 [19:04:54] <judd> Package: libreoffice-writer on amd64 --
jessie-backports: 1:5.1.3-1~bpo8+1
2330 [19:05:10] <unborn> vahe1: unattended access would never work
with normal user plus even if it would so - it would be idiotic
decision to run that 24/7 which I would not suggest
2331 [19:05:14] <kcirick> simonlnu:
replaced-url
2332 [19:05:18] <simonlnu> that's the syntax, thanks babilen
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2335 [19:06:02] <babilen> kcirick: Looks as if it might not be too
hard to backport yourself. See <ssb> for a simple way to do
that -- /msg dpkg ssb
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2337 [19:06:54] <kcirick> babilen: I'll try that! thanks
2338 [19:07:16] <vahe1> unborn: teraflops
replaced-url
2339 [19:07:18] <vahe1> root
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2341 [19:07:56] <kcirick> babilen: it says add line for deb-src
sid, I'm using jessie, it that okay?
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2343 [19:08:05] <kcirick> or is sid experimental?
2344 [19:08:28] <simonlnu> sid is not experimental. another name
for sid is unstable.
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2348 [19:09:07] <kcirick> so the version of homebank I need is
already in sid... so I just have to add sid to apt?
2349 [19:09:23] <babilen> kcirick: As long as you *only* add
deb-src it is fine as that allows you to get source packages only.
Do *not* add a "deb" line.
2350 [19:09:30] <babilen> judd: v homebank
2351 [19:09:31] <judd> Package: homebank on amd64 -- squeeze:
4.2.1-1; wheezy: 4.4-1; jessie: 4.6.1-1; sid: 5.0.3-2; stretch:
5.0.3-2
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2353 [19:09:35] <simonlnu> indeed
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2355 [19:09:48] <babilen> That would allow you to backport 5.0.3
-- If that's the version you want you are good
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2357 [19:10:12] <kcirick> babilen: yes, that's the version I
want
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2359 [19:10:37] <babilen> Try the backport then. Please keep in
mind that you are responsible for keeping it up-to-date in the
future :)
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2362 [19:11:38] <kcirick> babilen: Sorry, you lost me again... so
I use jessie backports and not deb-src sid?
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2368 [19:12:42] <babilen> kcirick: You add a "deb" line
for jessie-backports *and* a "deb-src" line for sid (aka
unstable)
2369 [19:12:47] <CQ> kcirick: both. The backports in jessie are
from the sid sources
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2371 [19:13:20] <vahe1> unborn: teraflops
replaced-url
2372 [19:13:23] <kcirick> Ok... sorry this is day #2 for me on
debian
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2374 [19:13:34] <babilen> Well, stretch/testing actually, but the
<ssb> factoid explains how to backport packages from sid. ssb
is short for simple sid backport.
2375 [19:13:35] <CQ> babilen is there an autobuilder for (new)
backports?
2376 [19:13:55] <teraflops> vahe1: sorry. I cannot help you with
that
2377 [19:13:57] <babilen> Backports are packaged and uploaded
explicitly.
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2381 [19:14:43] <kcirick> babilen: in /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb-src
replaced-url
2382 [19:14:50] <CQ> reading
replaced-url
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2392 [19:16:15] <babilen> kcirick: I'd use "deb-src
replaced-url
2393 [19:16:28] <kcirick> babilen: thanks...
2394 [19:16:38] <babilen> kcirick: Could you paste the resulting
sources.list to
replaced-url
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2396 [19:16:45] <basic6_> looking for a way to disable nfsv4, this
article recommends adding an option to the RPCNFSDCOUNT variable,
but this variable comes after a double-dash "--", so it
probably won't work?
replaced-url
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2400 [19:17:42] <babilen> basic6_: Not installing nfs-common
should do the trick.
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2402 [19:18:11] <kcirick> babilen:
replaced-url
2403 [19:18:21] <basic6_> babilen: no, only v4 should be disabled.
nfs v3 should not be disabled.
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2408 [19:19:25] <kcirick> babilen: following instructions from
dpkg, it seems to be working
2409 [19:19:33] <babilen> kcirick: Please don't use
ftp.debian.org, but a different mirror. mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
should be fine .. I showed
replaced-url
2410 [19:19:54] <simonlnu> i use httpredir
2411 [19:20:04] <babilen> basic6_: Okay, that wouldn't work
then ;)
2412 [19:20:06] <kcirick> babilen: go it. Will do
2413 [19:20:43] <simonlnu> basic6_: specify nfsv3 in fstab /
wherever?
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2415 [19:21:33] <basic6_> babilen: right :) but have you seen that
article i linked? they put an option into a variable that is
appended after a double-dash. double-dash usually means, "no
more options from here on"
2416 [19:21:48] <basic6_> simonlnu: no. talking about the nfs
*server*
2417 [19:21:57] <babilen> basic6_: No, I didn't read that
article. Why do you want to disable v4 to begin with?
2418 [19:22:00] <simonlnu> ah ok
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2420 [19:22:08] <kcirick> babilen: all worked out. Thanks for your
help!
2421 [19:22:13] <babilen> kcirick: yay! :)
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2423 [19:22:38] <simonlnu> you can still specify it explicitly in
the nfs mounts file
2424 [19:22:46] <basic6_> babilen: had issues with it, but
that's not important. i want to disable it for testing
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2437 [19:25:49] <babilen> basic6_: Edit
/etc/default/nfs-kernel-server and add "--no-nfs-version
4" in there as documented in that file. Restart the nfs server
service.
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2450 [19:29:17] <basic6_> babilen: i have done that now and i have
restarted it using "/etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server
restart". rpcinfo still reports nfsv4 listening
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2453 [19:29:48] <babilen> basic6_: Jessie uses systemd, use
"systemctl restart nfs-kernel-server"
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2456 [19:30:39] <babilen> Ah, looks like it doesn't ship a
unit file
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2458 [19:31:02] <basic6_> babilen: you are right, that command
would be more appropriate. however, the init.d command is just a
redirect to it and the status command already shows that rpc.mountd
was called with the option
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2462 [19:31:49] <basic6_> but i've restarted it again and
rpcinfo still lists version 4 and mounting with vers=4 is still
possible
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2464 [19:32:17] <babilen> With which option?
2465 [19:32:34] <basic6_> " --no-nfs-version 4"
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2467 [19:33:06] <basic6_> /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server status:
... "29568 /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd --manage-gids --port 2048
--no-nfs-version 4"
2468 [19:33:15] <babilen> And the manpage of rpc.mountd says
"This option can be used to request that rpc.mountd do not
offer certain versions of NFS. The current version of rpc.mountd can
support both NFS version 2, 3 and 4. If the either one of these
version should not be offered, rpc.mountd must be invoked with the
option --no-nfs-version <vers>"
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2470 [19:33:35] <babilen> "both .. <list of three
things>" :)
2471 [19:33:42] <basic6_> you know, according to rpcinfo, mountd
is not offering version 4 but nfs is
2472 [19:34:05] <basic6_> so i guess the option worked but it
didnt actually disable nfsv4
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2476 [19:35:35] <RoyK> babilen: probably just changed from
"both v 2 and 3" and nobody worried about the grammar ;)
2477 [19:36:26] <babilen> RoyK: yeah
2478 [19:36:28] <basic6_> does it make a difference if the test
client already has other nfs shares mounted?
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2480 [19:37:23] <basic6_> but even if that was the case, version 4
should be disabled on the server and doing whats described in
/etc/default/nfs-kernel-server does not work
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2482 [19:38:05] <RoyK> why would you use nfs3?
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2484 [19:38:28] <RoyK> v4 is *very* much better
2485 [19:39:45] <basic6_> RoyK: i had problems with v4. very
likely that v4 alone was not actually the cause for the problems but
that really doesn't matter. i want to disable it.
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2488 [19:40:25] <babilen> basic6_: I guess you also want to pass
it to rpc.nfsd also. Unfortunately there isn't an equivalent
method of passing options to that, but you should be able to use
"RPCNFSDCOUNT='8 --no-nfs-version 4'" in
/etc/default/nfs-kernel-server after looking at the init script.
2489 [19:40:32] <babilen> basic6_: Or just edit the init script
directly.
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2491 [19:40:42] <babilen> But yeah .. v4 ftw!
2492 [19:40:58] <babilen> You really shouldn't work this hard
to force v3
2493 [19:41:13] <babilen> But as you insist we don't fix the
actual issue ;)
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2496 [19:41:59] <basic6_> babilen: right, so we're getting
back to my very first question then :) using RPCNFSDCOUNT. the
option is appended after a double-dash
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2498 [19:42:12] <basic6_> oh what the heck, i'll just try it
even though i think it shouldn't work by convention
2499 [19:42:36] <babilen> basic6_: Please note that the init
script calls start-stop-daemon and not rpc.nfsd
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2502 [19:43:56] <babilen> Either way .. why not try it?
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2507 [19:46:27] <babilen> basic6_: I don't quite follow ..
You are calling start-stop-daemon, specify the command to be
executed via the "--exec=..." option and then give options
passed to that command after " -- ". You are not
specifying options for start-stop-daemon, but for rpc.nfsd
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2509 [19:47:49] <babilen> Ah, it's even documented in
start-stop-daemon(8)
2510 [19:47:56] <basic6_> right that makes the difference. and
i've just tried it, it works, i can't mount using vers=4
anymore
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2512 [19:48:47] <basic6_> it's not really pretty putting the
"--no-nfs-version 4" option in the RPCNFSDCOUNT variable
but it seems to be the only way without editing the init script
2513 [19:48:48] <babilen> Hooray! You broke v4 ;)
2514 [19:48:58] <basic6_> yes and i'm happy :) so thank you
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2517 [19:49:27] <FaTony> hi, when mate updated to 1.14 the lock
screen started showing wallpaper instead of black screen, how to
fix?
2518 [19:49:29] <basic6_> hmm rpcinfo -p [IP] still lists nfs
being offered with version 4. i expected this to go away?
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2520 [19:50:16] <babilen> basic6_: The name doesn't really
match, but I'd say it's fine. You could edit the init
script, add another (...OPTS) variable to
/etc/default/nfs-kernel-server and to the init script if you think
that's prettier.
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2523 [19:51:03] <babilen> basic6_: Is it a problem that it
doesn't go away?
2524 [19:51:20] <basic6_> babilen: i know, but i don't want
to edit the init script. who knows, maybe some debian update wil
replace it and things break. i just wanted to say that it's not
the "right" variable although technically it doesnt make a
difference
2525 [19:51:37] <babilen> Didn't you just verify that you
can't mount v4?
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2527 [19:52:09] <basic6_> also, i have removed
"--no-nfs-version 4" from RPCMOUNTDOPTS and v4 is still
disabled. so i don't understand why the default file says to
use that option if it doesnt change anything
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2529 [19:52:40] <basic6_> babilen: correct, i can't mount v4
anymore after adding that option to the RPCNFSDCOUNT variable
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2531 [19:53:13] <babilen>
replaced-url
2532 [19:53:14] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
2533 [19:53:32] <babilen> I'm sure they are happy if you were
to provide a patch for the init script and default file.
2534 [19:53:33] <basic6_> lol
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2536 [19:53:55] <babilen> Ah, it comes with a patch already
2537 [19:53:57] <Scriptonaut> can anyone tell me where to put my
fongconfig files?
2538 [19:54:22] <Scriptonaut> the wiki doesn't cover it
2539 [19:54:39] <Scriptonaut> some things are saying
~/.config/fontconfig/conf.d/
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2542 [19:54:51] <Scriptonaut> then others are saying
~/.fongs.conf.d/
2543 [19:54:59] <Scriptonaut> but what about global fontconfig
files?
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2549 [19:57:01] <babilen> basic6_: Just sent a mail to that bug
report to ask for inclusion of that patch.
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2551 [19:57:50] <basic6_> babilen: thank you for your help, esp
for finding that bug report
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2554 [19:58:57] <babilen> So .. did disabling v4 solve your
$actual_problem ?
2555 [19:59:36] <babilen> And you are welcome
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2557 [20:00:38] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: per use config files
~/.config/fontconfig/conf.d/ ~/.fonts is deprecated
2558 [20:00:41] <teraflops> user*
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2561 [20:01:33] <Scriptonaut> teraflops: what do you mean per
user? There is no global config?
2562 [20:01:37] <Scriptonaut> and if it's per user, where
does it go?
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2564 [20:02:18] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: if you want globals yo go
with /etc obv
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2566 [20:02:42] <Scriptonaut> ok, well will the font program pick
up on where I put them?
2567 [20:03:00] <Scriptonaut> where do I specify the fontconfig
dir? I'm looking in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, and there is no
specification
2568 [20:03:06] <Scriptonaut> can you give me an actual path?
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2571 [20:03:42] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: what are you trying to
do? there's no need to specify the fontconfig dir
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2574 [20:04:27] <Scriptonaut> I installed powerline, I installed
the powerline fonts, now i need to install the powerline font config
file
2575 [20:06:00] * babilen just put the fonts in ~/.local/share/fonts/
and ran "fc-cache -fv"
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2577 [20:06:07] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: I already gave you, per
user ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf ~/.config/fontconfig/conf.d for
snippets
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2581 [20:06:47] <lukaso666> hi! I have Debian Sid (on laptop
Lenovo G70-80).. after dist-upgrade my lightdm and screens are
blinking all the time... what's going on? here is my lspci:
replaced-url
2582 [20:06:50] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: globally /etc/fonts/ look
inside
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2585 [20:07:16] <Scriptonaut> ooh, thanks teraflops
2586 [20:07:20] <teraflops> Scriptonaut: np
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2590 [20:07:55] <babilen> lukaso666: Welcome to unstable! You
might want to downgrade selected packages. Also #debian-next on
irc.oftc.net for unstable support.
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2594 [20:09:14] <lukaso666> babilen: hehe, I love my sid but
it's my first "unstable surprise" since more than
year ;) thx for channel info!
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2596 [20:09:31] <teraflops> lukaso666: lucky you
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2600 [20:10:51] <babilen> lukaso666: I'd check for
"obvious candidates" in the list of packages you just
upgraded and downgrade them. A pretty big "might be" is
the 4.6 kernel that just made it into unstable recently.
2601 [20:10:59] <babilen> But → #debian-next
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2603 [20:11:47] <lukaso666> babilen: thanks
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2605 [20:12:24] <babilen> Boot the older 4.5 kernel and try that
.. easy test and then you can look into other candidates if that
didn't work
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2631 [20:24:23] <basic6_> babilen: can't say if it solves my
$actual_problem. in the past, it sometimes happened that mounted
nfsv4 shares would have issues, they seemed to gone for a short time
or some files were not transferred, looked like files were missing
that actually weren't missing. happened a few times and *only*
with version 4, not anymore after changing to version 3
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2665 [20:35:27] <lukaso666> babilen: on the kernel 4.5... all
works fine :) so I need to downgrade some packages or wait for some
patches on 4.6
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2695 [20:51:18] <babilen> lukaso666: I have problems with 4.6
also, I guess it'll be a while before it is usable.
Haven't even managed to debug it further, but it doesn't
seem to be ready.
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2698 [20:51:56] <babilen> lukaso666: You might just want to stick
to 4.5 for the time being and try 4.6 every now and then. If you
like you could investigate the issues in more detail and report
bugs.
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2712 [21:02:01] <lukaso666> babilen: right now I'm on kernel
4.5.0-2 and everything works fine.. I'll look later on these
problems and maybe I'll report a bug :)
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2762 [21:24:50] <feneco> hi
2763 [21:25:05] <feneco> where can I download debian test with
gnome?
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2773 [21:27:45] <basic6_> why does "find -mtime +1" list
files that are a week old, but not files that are 4 months old?
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2776 [21:28:39] <zykotick9> feneco: you should try using stable
first. fyi, the "proper" way to install testing is to
install a minimal stable first, then upgrade/downgrade to testing.
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2779 [21:29:22] <feneco> zykotick9: would be bad to install stable
with gnome and then upgrade to testing?
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2782 [21:30:51] <zykotick9> feneco: installing a
"minimal" setup, upgrading that - then installing a DE
would be a saner method... ymmv...
2783 [21:31:06] <feneco> ok, thanks zykotick9
2784 [21:31:52] <zykotick9> feneco: NOTE for when you have
problems! suppot for testing/unstable is in #debian-next on the OFTC
network. NOT here.
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2786 [21:32:12] <feneco> ok, thanks
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2804 [21:39:55] <basic6_> ignore my last question, the file was
actually from the future, my bad
2805 [21:40:03] <KALASH> now that iceweasel reached end of life..
is there any work being done to move firefox-esr to stable?
2806 [21:41:32] <LtL> KALASH: it's there
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2812 [21:42:42] <KALASH> LtL: very cool thanks
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2816 [21:43:41] <LtL> keith4: welcome
2817 [21:43:56] <LtL> keith4: sorry, KALASH welcome
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2827 [21:50:01] <digglr> I'm having an issue with my
motherboards (ASUS Z170-A) visual output, it doesn't want to
fit to screen and has overhang and it doesn't seem to like any
sort of media/video to play out of the HDMI output. I've come
to accept it and have switched to Xubuntu for now but I'm also
having an issue dealing with display after I turn off my monitor. Is
there any support for this MB I haven't found? Also any
recommendations on graphics cards
2828 [21:50:01] <digglr> with good drivers support, I had a nvidia
gtx 960 that would just flicker my screen constantly that I ended up
returning. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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2927 [22:46:30] <Ecco> Hi
2928 [22:46:39] <Ecco> I'd like to donate bandwidth to the
Debian project
2929 [22:46:48] <Ecco> (not much, 1Gpbs)
2930 [22:47:04] <Ecco> Is there an easy way I could do it? Would
it help?
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2941 [22:49:28] <TomTomTosch> Ecco: sure, you can provide a mirror
if you wish.
replaced-url
2942 [22:49:52] <Ecco> Great. I'm not sure I could provide
somehting very reliable though
2943 [22:50:11] <Ecco> (in other words, there might be some
downtime and I don't want to be bothered if there is any)
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2947 [22:50:42] <LtL> Ecco: try here,
replaced-url
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2953 [22:52:20] <LtL> TomTomTosch: i didn't see your link,
oops ;)
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2960 [22:53:54] <TomTomTosch> x)
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2963 [22:55:49] <TomTomTosch> Ecco: last line in the article
linked above is "Any problems or enquiries can be sent to
mirrors@debian.org." it's would be a good place to get
more information.
2964 [22:56:17] <TomTomTosch> s/it's/that
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2985 [23:06:35] <leetcool> anyone up??
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2987 [23:06:46] <petn-randall> leetcool: No, everyone's down.
2988 [23:06:59] <leetcool> petn-randall, i'm in extreme
problem
2989 [23:07:03] <leetcool> i need some help
2990 [23:07:06] <petn-randall> !ask
2991 [23:07:06] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
2992 [23:07:16] <leetcool> my system is all read only now
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2997 [23:08:12] <leetcool> my system was giving warning about lo
disk space and at sudden it all went to read only fs
2998 [23:08:53] <petn-randall> leetcool: Low disk space should
flip it in read-only mode, though. Do you know why it's in
read-only mode?
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3000 [23:09:02] <petn-randall> *SHOULDN'T
3001 [23:09:22] <leetcool> no i'll tell you the whole story
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3005 [23:10:00] <hexnewbie> leetcool: Pastebinning the last
messages in dmesg may also help, if you can pastebin easily.
3006 [23:10:01] <leetcool> i've installed debian on 50 gigs
partition apart from that iwas using 200 gigs of partition to store
data
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3012 [23:12:46] <leetcool> hexnewbie,
replaced-url
3013 [23:12:49] <leetcool> here is the paste
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3017 [23:15:05] <hexnewbie> leetcool: Seems like your hard drive
is dead or dying (either that, or---highly unlikely with some of
those messages---the controller is malfunctioning). You should try
to attempt to duplicate the drive onto a new one, and/or restore
from backup.
3018 [23:16:32] <petn-randall> leetcool: If you have smartmontools
installed, what is the output of 'smartctl -a /dev/sda'?
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3020 [23:16:57] <leetcool> i had 50 gigs of root partition which
was almost full and a 200 gigs partition for storing data which had
some extra space,
3021 [23:16:57] <leetcool> i used gparted to shrink the volume
(which was 200 gigs) to 190 gigs to get extra 10 gigs to expand my
root.
3022 [23:16:58] <leetcool> shrink was successful but after that
gparted started to move the partion which is now 190gigs to the
right.
3023 [23:16:58] <leetcool> meanwhile i was working on something
and i got a few warnings for low space on my root. which i ignored
because i was freeing some space for it.
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3025 [23:17:06] <hexnewbie> leetcool: Also write down
"ddrescue" for after you're done diagnosing this. You
may need it.
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3028 [23:18:06] <simonlnu> if he remembers to come back in...
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3033 [23:19:34] <hexnewbie> leetcool: Also write down
"ddrescue" for after you're done diagnosing this. You
may need it.
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3035 [23:19:47] <leetcool> wtf i got kicked from here
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3037 [23:20:01] <leetcool> for typing something long
3038 [23:20:02] <leetcool> huh
3039 [23:20:03] <petn-randall> leetcool: The bot kicked you for
flooding. Try to not paste more than a line into the chat.
3040 [23:20:21] <leetcool> wait then i'll paste my message on
web
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3043 [23:20:33] <leetcool> and i'll give you output of
systemctl
3044 [23:20:43] <petn-randall> leetcool: The repartitioning part
is not relevant to your problem. It's dying hardware.
3045 [23:21:10] <hexnewbie> leetcool: smartctl, not systemctl :)
Those are totally different things (and I hadn't noticed how
alike they sound)
3046 [23:21:16] <leetcool> yes
3047 [23:21:16] <petn-randall> leetcool: If you have smartmontools
installed you could show us the output of 'smartctl -a
/dev/sda'.
3048 [23:21:23] <leetcool> my mistake
3049 [23:21:31] <leetcool> my brain is so fucked now
3050 [23:21:34] <leetcool> :'(
3051 [23:21:35] <petn-randall> :)
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3054 [23:23:03] <leetcool> WTF o_O
3055 [23:23:10] <leetcool> there's a change
3056 [23:23:27] <leetcool> a few mins ago all the icons everywhere
were having a lock icon
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3058 [23:23:40] <leetcool> now my desktop files don't have
that lock icon anymore
3059 [23:24:11] <simonlnu> lock for having been remounted
read-only
3060 [23:24:31] <simonlnu> i.e., no write access
3061 [23:24:58] <simonlnu> now you got it back, or your
"desktop" is confuzzled.
3062 [23:25:05] <leetcool> simonlnu, i know but how can it change
like that
3063 [23:25:28] <simonlnu> check dmesg and syslog
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3066 [23:27:32] <petn-randall> leetcool: You likely have a broken
disk and you're potentially loosing all data on it, I
wouldn't care about those icons right now.
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3069 [23:28:26] <simonlnu> s/oo/o/ and yeah, it's the least
of things.
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3071 [23:28:34] <leetcool> aah.. i'm tring to run firefox but
it says it's already running and i cant find it out by ps aux |
grep firefox
3072 [23:29:08] <simonlnu> look at smartctl ...
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3082 [23:30:58] <leetcool> smartctl shows no errors
3083 [23:31:14] <leetcool> No Errors Logged
3084 [23:31:26] <petn-randall> leetcool: Show us the output of
'smartctl -a /dev/sda' please.
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3087 [23:31:43] <leetcool> i can't paste cus i can't run
firefox
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3089 [23:31:49] <simonlnu> (at a paste site, not in here ;)
3090 [23:32:00] <simonlnu> you have a text browser?
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3093 [23:32:35] <leetcool> idk
3094 [23:32:40] <petn-randall> leetcool: Do you have a live system
to boot from? That would probably help since the system you're
currently running is booted off the faulty disk.
3095 [23:32:41] <jmcnaught> leetcool: use "smartctl -a
/dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999"
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3097 [23:33:01] <petn-randall> Or what jmcnaught said.
3098 [23:33:01] <leetcool> petn-randall, i can't reboot cus
gparted is at work right now
3099 [23:33:13] <leetcool> let me arrange the output of smartctl
3100 [23:33:14] <simonlnu> there ya go
3101 [23:33:34] <petn-randall> leetcool: I would cancel anything
that gparted is doing right now if your disk is broken.
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3103 [23:34:26] <leetcool> gparted is going running fine it
didn't reported any errors and if i'll cancel it i will
loose all my data.. i think
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3105 [23:34:55] <simonlnu> s/loose/lose/
3106 [23:35:04] <leetcool>
replaced-url
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3108 [23:35:10] <leetcool> here is smartctl
3109 [23:35:38] <leetcool> please ignore any typos i'm really
scared now
3110 [23:35:56] <petn-randall> leetcool: Oh, you're not even
running Debian, you're running Kali.
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3113 [23:36:37] <leetcool> does it have to do anything with the
problem? it's basically debian wheezy
3114 [23:36:41] <petn-randall> !kali
3115 [23:36:42] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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3118 [23:37:40] <leetcool> means no help from debian?
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3121 [23:38:16] <petn-randall> leetcool: I can only recommend: Buy
a new HD, replay your backups onto the working disk. If you have any
data on the faulty disk that's not backed up, you might recover
it through a live system.
3122 [23:38:42] <petn-randall> leetcool: In any ways I
wouldn't boot from that disk, and I certainly wouldn't
move partitions around while it has faulty sectors.
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3124 [23:39:12] <petn-randall> leetcool: Yes, we only support
Debian in here, no derivatives.
3125 [23:39:25] <leetcool> Thanks petn-randall
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3127 [23:39:33] <leetcool> and others also
3128 [23:39:47] <simonlnu> leetcool: good luck
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3130 [23:39:51] <petn-randall> leetcool: good luck
3131 [23:39:55] <gopnik> Hey, I'm having trouble getting
sound set up, I installed alsa-utils, but that doesnt seem to come
with alsactl
3132 [23:39:59] <leetcool> i need it so badly
3133 [23:40:01] <leetcool> :'(
3134 [23:40:04] <gopnik> despite what the debian package says
3135 [23:40:27] <petn-randall> leetcool: You do have backups,
right?
3136 [23:40:39] <leetcool> no i don't have any backup
3137 [23:40:41] <leetcool> :'(
3138 [23:40:42] <petn-randall> ouch
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3140 [23:40:58] <jmcnaught> gopnik: it's in /usr/sbin which
isn't in a regular user's path. Have you tried
pavucontrol?
3141 [23:41:10] <leetcool> i think i'll stick around until
gparted finishes up completely
3142 [23:41:22] <leetcool> either way i'm going to loose data
3143 [23:41:35] <leetcool> :'(
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3147 [23:42:27] <gopnik> jmcnaught, wow there it is thanks,
pavucontrol?
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3150 [23:43:23] <jmcnaught> gopnik: in the package pavucontrol
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3156 [23:44:18] <petn-randall> leetcool: It might not finish until
the disk completely dies, as I said, I'd power that disk down
and then recover everything I can to a healthy disk.
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3159 [23:45:20] <gopnik> jmcnaught, I installed it now, but I
still don't have sound :/
3160 [23:45:31] <gopnik> I did the alsactl init as well from sbin
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3162 [23:46:23] <jmcnaught> gopnik: does the output device look
like it's configured properly in pavucontrol? could you please
put the output of "aplay -l" and "pacmd
list-cards" on
replaced-url
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3173 [23:48:26] <gopnik> I am unsure if it is configured properly,
here is the paste jmcnaught
replaced-url
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3177 [23:50:07] <jmcnaught> gopnik: it looks like you have an HDMI
audio output in additition to the regular line-out/headphones. check
in pavucontrol that the port is correct (or try different ports)
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3184 [23:53:03] <gopnik> For my Built in audio analog stereo I
have it set to speakers, still no sound (I tried the others with the
same effet)
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3188 [23:53:53] <gopnik> However the Build In Audio Digital Stero
is the HDMI port and can not be changed
3189 [23:53:56] <gopnik> idk if that is a factor
3190 [23:54:17] <gopnik> (My mic is working though)
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3192 [23:54:40] <jmcnaught> gopnik: try running alsamixer. the key
F6 is used to select a card. look for muted channels
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3197 [23:56:39] <gopnik> jmcnaught, the channels are all unmuted,
3198 [23:57:03] <gopnik> one comment in pavucontrol my built in
adui is listed as the HDMI under configuration
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3200 [23:58:17] <jmcnaught> gopnik: the HDMI audio is from your
graphics card. in alsamixer were you looking at the ALC3232 Analog
card?
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3202 [23:58:36] <gopnik> Yep
3203 [23:58:51] <gopnik> On the ALC I have all channels unmuted
and turned up
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3205 [23:59:29] <jmcnaught> gopnik: are there any
"channels" that are toggles?
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