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• 62[00:33:44] <DHowett> should one prefer debootstrap or cdebootstrap? too fine a distinction? :P
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• 70[00:37:05] <markybob> DHowett: basically the difference is once is written in c. i've only used debootstrap
• 71[00:37:59] <markybob> one*
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• 88[00:49:11] <asterismo_l> hi people
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• 91[00:49:46] <asterismo_l> is there anyrepo with open broadcast software? i need to broadcast to youtube an astronomical event using debian and ffmpeg is not even in the repos
• 92[00:50:00] <asterismo_l> compiling that is really a pain
• 93[00:50:08] <asterismo_l> vlc wont stream
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• 95[00:50:14] <asterismo_l> need help
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• 97[00:50:32] <markybob> asterismo_l: ffmpeg is in jessie-backports
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• 99[00:51:30] <markybob> !tell asterismo_l about jessie-backports
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• 102[00:53:37] <asterismo_l> markybob: thanks man
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• 104[00:54:01] <asterismo_l> not finding ffmpeg in repos almost give me a heart attack dude
• 105[00:54:04] <asterismo_l> seriously
• 106[00:54:07] <asterismo_l> lol xD
• 107[00:54:42] <markybob> asterismo_l: after you add it to your sources and apt-get update just apt-get install -t jessie-backports ffmpeg
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• 109[00:54:55] <markybob> smoke break
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• 111[00:55:09] <drpresident> why cant i type to any channels?
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• 113[00:57:01] <Jerm1_> drpresident: Try registering with nickserv...if you havent
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• 120[00:59:48] <drpresident> I did that, but the problem seems to be only an issue with ##security. I didnt see anything on their website that coulde help but it just says "Cannot send to channel"
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• 122[01:00:34] <asterismo_l> markybob: obs-studio wont compile in debian jessie
• 123[01:00:49] <asterismo_l> ffmpeg version is not correct or something
• 124[01:00:53] <asterismo_l> Could NOT find FFmpeg (missing: swresample) (found version "56.1.0")
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• 127[01:02:39] <jaggz> NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 343.19, but this kernel module has the version 352.79.
• 128[01:02:53] <jaggz> what client is that? I just recompiled the program I'm running (visualsfm)...
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• 132[01:04:10] <jaggz> (trying to use CUDA)
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• 139[01:05:51] <markybob> asterismo_l: as far as i can tell you need libswresample-dev
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• 143[01:08:25] <jaggz> maybe I need to windows
• 144[01:08:31] <jaggz> I mean.. maybe I need to reboot
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• 158[01:13:45] <Mazhive> oke guys.. i am in a struggle.. .. would it be more easier/faster to purge postfix / dovecot and start from scratch to set up a mail server ofcourse it does depand on the problem but .. since i think it not just a small problem i would tend to start over..
• 159[01:13:58] <tharkun> When "/bin/sh -c" is executed on a debian system what shell is actually runned?
• 160[01:14:27] <markybob> tharkun: sh uses dash
• 161[01:14:31] <Mazhive> As i only have 2 email account.. to work with..
• 162[01:14:54] <tharkun> markybob: Thanks.
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• 165[01:15:21] <markybob> Mazhive: without knowing what problem it is...it's hard to say. anyway, you can just back up your config files, do a purge (not just remove), and if something bad happens you can always restore those config files
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• 171[01:17:52] <vifon> Hello. I have some problems with loading the fuse module. I've just restored a DigitalOcean Debian Jessie droplet from an image and I'm not sure what could be the problem. The kernel and the module seem to be in the same version. Could someone help?
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• 173[01:18:03] <vifon> Here is the output of modprobe. replaced-url
• 174[01:18:33] <Mazhive> hmm .. well i have changed so much that i think i getting deeper and deeper.. into this problem ..i am thinking of using my second mail server to use as a backup mail server and try to fix this one in the mean while..
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• 181[01:19:47] <markybob> Mazhive: btw there is #dovecot and #postfix where the pros are. you'll probably have better luck there
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• 184[01:20:17] <pecg> Mazhive: Start over dude
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• 187[01:20:45] <pecg> markybob: Second that
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• 195[01:24:24] <vifon> Ok... Now I've fiddled a bit more with the DO panel and it's working now. I'm not sure why it wasn't reloading the kernel previously.
• 196[01:24:38] <vifon> I've been trying to fix it the whole evening... Thanks anyway.
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• 199[01:25:59] <Mazhive> nice tip markybob . will do that first.. thanx..
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• 205[01:32:03] <sewerinspector> Hey all. I rebooted my thinkpad T450 and i'm now having issues with my touchpad. It's behaving erratically and synclient -l shows that the synaptics driver hasn't loaded. Here's a few relevant outputs: replaced-url
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• 227[01:44:05] <awwal> Having problem here for toggle virt-manager fullscreen. Any clue?
• 228[01:45:19] <awwal> keyboard shortcut I meant
• 229[01:45:30] <teraflops> awwal: which DE/WM there?
• 230[01:45:47] <awwal> teraflops, openbox
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• 232[01:46:33] <awwal> probably conflicting with openbox keyboard settings
• 233[01:47:00] <jmcnaught> awwal: there may not be a keyboard shortcut. what shortcut are you trying?
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• 236[01:47:49] <awwal> I use Alt+F12 for fullscreen under openbox. The problem is that it seems that virt-manager have no keyboard shortcut as you say jmcnaught
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• 238[01:48:26] <awwal> I have tried all the possible combinations: ctrl alt f, alt f1, f2...
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• 240[01:48:38] <awwal> shit f1...
• 241[01:48:45] <awwal> no one works xD
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• 245[01:49:20] <jmcnaught> awwal: #virt on OFTC might know
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• 247[01:49:46] <awwal> jmcnaught, oh, ok. I havent thought in virt channel. thanks
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• 253[01:53:39] <awwal> the problem is that once in fullscreen mode (clocking in fullscreen mode button with mouse), it's impossible to disable the full screen mode. I have to shutdown the guest for have access to my debian host machine xD
• 254[01:54:00] <teraflops> yeah I do ctr-alt and then move the mouse over the top center of the screen and a little menu applet/menu drops down
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• 257[01:57:00] <jmcnaught> awwal: yeah it's mouse only as far as i know
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• 261[01:59:06] <awwal> teraflops, I have tried that before I ask but it doesnt work (ctrl+alt mouve the mouse over the top center for get the applet for disable fuullscreen mode)
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• 263[01:59:31] <awwal> jmcnaught, the problem I have is disabling full screen mode
• 264[02:00:00] <jmcnaught> also if you're using SPICE and the guest has QXL as the graphics card i've found that ctrl+alt isn't necessary
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• 267[02:00:11] <jmcnaught> awwal: are you using the ctrl+alt on the left side of the keyboard?
• 268[02:00:26] <awwal> jmcnaught, yes
• 269[02:01:04] <jmcnaught> awwal: virt-manager preferences has a spot to change the grab keys shortcut
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• 271[02:04:04] <awwal> jmcnaught, not familiar with virt-manager and it's configs; I'm a bit lost, lol
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• 282[02:12:20] <teraflops> awwal: to be fair the applet at top appears ramdomly :P
• 283[02:12:24] <teraflops> :S
• 284[02:13:10] <Goddesspapa> When you are writing something, do you say star p or pointer p? Feels weird that I say the former in my head.
• 285[02:13:23] <teraflops> I never noticed it, I just use a spice client not the virt-manager itself
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• 289[02:13:58] <awwal> teraflops, that wont work here
• 290[02:14:13] <awwal> played with virt preferences and no clue
• 291[02:14:15] <teraflops> awwal: here it barely works :P
• 292[02:14:18] <awwal> no luck
• 293[02:14:37] <teraflops> awwal: try with spice-client
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• 295[02:14:47] <teraflops> hmm
• 296[02:14:58] <teraflops> ,v spice-client-gtk
• 297[02:14:58] <awwal> teraflops, googling seems that many people have my problem
• 298[02:14:59] <judd> Package: spice-client-gtk on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.12-5; jessie: 0.25-1+b1; sid: 0.30-1; stretch: 0.30-1
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• 304[02:19:37] <awwal> teraflops, will look at that pkg, ok
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• 306[02:19:58] <teraflops> awwal: spicy has shift + 11 / shift + f12 if it behaves the same as in archlinux
• 307[02:20:20] <teraflops> toggle on / off, it is a nice app
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• 312[02:26:12] <awwal> wanted to from virtualbox to qemu-kvm but no luck for now. will check how things works via cli, without virt-manager
• 313[02:26:20] <awwal> wanted to switch ^
• 314[02:26:52] <jmcnaught> awwal: i was talking about edit>preferences and then console tab in virt-manager
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• 316[02:27:32] <awwal> jmcnaught, yes I understood
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• 318[02:28:39] <VlanX> Hello.... so I made this mistake, instead of writing to my HDD I wrote to the SSD and got the root partition full. After ten minutes I realized the mistake ad freed it. However, the root was at zero byte free at some point. Did I cause any damage to the OS?
• 319[02:30:00] <tzica> at some point :)
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• 321[02:30:30] <tzica> free space and you'll be fine
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• 323[02:31:51] <VlanX> tzica: thank you. Too bad it was an SSD, I caused extra wearing for nothing :(
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• 333[02:40:34] <captainfixerpc14> could someone possibly tell me how to reset default graphics adapter in jessie - after installing fglrx-drivers I can't get past the boot screen?
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• 339[02:43:16] <zoomgry> no older kernels in grub, any reason why? how do I downgrade linux kernel to a previous version to test an audio issue?
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• 350[02:54:06] <awwal> ,v kernels
• 351[02:54:07] <judd> No package named 'kernels' was found in amd64.
• 352[02:54:28] <awwal> zoomgry, jessie has 3.16 kernel
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• 355[02:55:03] <awwal> you will only get menor upgrades for that version
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• 360[02:56:09] <awwal> you will see in grub an old version, say 3.16, if you get 3.18, for example
• 361[02:56:22] <awwal> or 3.17
• 362[02:56:24] <zoomgry> awwal: would like to try a previous version, don't see it in grub
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• 365[02:56:51] <awwal> zoomgry, stable (jessie now) have only 1 version
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• 368[02:57:15] <markybob> zoomgry: why downgrade? why not upgrade? jessie-backports has 4.5
• 369[02:57:34] <zoomgry> ok I can upgrade too to test, just not sure how, I'll check it out, give me a few mins
• 370[02:57:43] <markybob> zoomgry: replaced-url
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• 373[02:57:52] <dvs> zoomgry, don't do that.
• 374[02:57:59] <gorillas> epsilon, thanks so much for your help the other day. I fixed the problem. It was rdnssd. I removed it. Seems to fix everything.
• 375[02:58:00] <markybob> zoomgry: follow those instructions to add sources. then apt-get -t jessie-bacckports linux-image-amd64
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• 377[02:58:41] <markybob> !tell zoomgry about jessie-backports
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• 380[02:58:53] <zoomgry> dvs: do not downgrade you mean ?
• 381[02:58:59] <zoomgry> markybob: cheers :)
• 382[02:59:09] <dvs> zoomgry, do not "upgrade" to testing
• 383[02:59:23] <markybob> right. jessie-backports isn't testing. that's fine.
• 384[02:59:31] <zoomgry> ah. no that's just my fail grammar. I upgrade (the kernel) to test (to test the sound).
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• 388[03:01:06] <Rudde> How can I generate a data sample of uncompressable data to benchmark?
• 389[03:01:31] <awwal> zoomgry, so you want downgrade or upgrade?
• 390[03:01:31] <Rudde> /Dev/random is slow, is there a faster way to get random data that does not need to be cryptosafe?
• 391[03:01:58] <VampiricPadraig> Hey guys. Quick question, Is MariaDB 10.1.13 based on MySQL 5.7.3 m13? (I asked in #maria but its kinda dead :P )
• 392[03:02:05] <markybob> so much more likely to fuck shit up if he tries an earlier kernel in jessie than jessie-backports
• 393[03:02:12] <awwal> maybe another one english spoken will explain you better why you no have old versions of kernel in your jessie
• 394[03:02:17] <awwal> bad english here
• 395[03:02:31] <markybob> he has no older version because that's what jessie shipped with
• 396[03:02:42] <zoomgry> replaced-url
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• 398[03:02:57] <awwal> zoomgry, ^
• 399[03:03:05] <zoomgry> awwal: either would do; would like to get the sound working again; it's distorted at volumes abnove 50%, and below 50% is rather quiet; it worked before
• 400[03:03:21] <markybob> zoomgry: did you forget to apt-get update?
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• 402[03:03:31] <markybob> wait
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• 404[03:03:32] <markybob> heh
• 405[03:03:42] <dvs> zoomgry, lines 23 and 26 are the same thing
• 406[03:03:43] <markybob> zoomgry: apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-amd64
• 407[03:03:47] <markybob> zoomgry: you forgot "install"
• 408[03:04:02] <zoomgry> aha thanks
• 409[03:04:25] <zoomgry> interestingly I have linux-kernel-586 and linux-kernel-686 installed, not the amd64, and I'm not sure what key words to use to look it up on the web
• 410[03:04:42] <markybob> zoomgry: you do have a 64-bit capable cpu?
• 411[03:04:51] <zoomgry> yes
• 412[03:05:07] <markybob> okay. not sure why you installed the 32bit version of debian but it doesn't matter
• 413[03:05:45] <zoomgry> it's unpacking 3.16.0-4 but I think that's what I already have
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• 415[03:06:05] <markybob> zoomgry: so again, did you apt-get update? doesn't sound like it
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• 419[03:08:38] <zoomgry> replaced-url
• 420[03:09:42] <markybob> zoomgry: show the output of apt-get update
• 421[03:09:49] <zoomgry> ok
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• 423[03:10:28] <zoomgry> replaced-url
• 424[03:11:00] <markybob> zoomgry: dpkg -l linux-image-amd64
• 425[03:11:09] <dvs> 117 not upgraded?
• 426[03:11:36] <zoomgry> replaced-url
• 427[03:11:40] <markybob> and i really don't know wtf that non-free.org source is. fucking frankendebian
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• 432[03:13:02] <zoomgry> I installed the non-free wifi driver from that
• 433[03:13:21] <markybob> you're only getting packages/diffindex for i386 for some reason in jessie-backports
• 434[03:13:23] <zoomgry> if there's a more direct way to specify non-free without using that alias, I'd happily change it
• 435[03:13:31] <zoomgry> hmm
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• 437[03:13:42] <zoomgry> then I can install a new 586 kernel and try that for a start
• 438[03:13:43] <dvs> zoomgry, yeah, put "non-free" after main in sources.list
• 439[03:14:09] <markybob> zoomgry: make the backports line start with: deb [arch=amd64] then apt-get update again
• 440[03:14:33] <zoomgry> (there's 8 lines ending in 'main'; do I add non-free to each?)
• 441[03:14:37] <zoomgry> ok
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• 448[03:16:44] <dvs> zoomgry, yes adding "contrib non-free" to the end of those lines would be better
• 449[03:16:53] <zoomgry> replaced-url
• 450[03:16:57] <zoomgry> ok
• 451[03:17:26] <markybob> zoomgry i really don't know what your problem is. i'll let someone else step in.
• 452[03:17:53] <dvs> zoomgry, except for that "nonfree.org" line. We're not sure what's there.
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• 457[03:19:12] <zoomgry> replaced-url
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• 459[03:20:49] <captainfixerpc14> how can I reset default graphics adapter in jessie - after installing fglrx-drivers I can't get past the boot screen? all I get is flashing cursor - top left - ?
• 460[03:20:58] <captainfixerpc14> debian jessie
• 461[03:21:15] <markybob> zoomgry: this is what your sources should look like. just this. delete everything else. replaced-url
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• 465[03:23:52] <zoomgry> ok; curious, you put backports at the top, which maybe is better, but the instructions don't tell where to put it; I'll pastebin in a few minutes
• 466[03:24:00] <markybob> zoomgry: doesn't matter at all
• 467[03:24:14] <dvs> zoomgry, it doens't matter where in the file it is, as long as it's there.
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• 469[03:24:44] <zoomgry> now it doesn't want to install new amd64, but installs new 586, which is 4.5.0
• 470[03:24:58] <markybob> fine, consider it a win
• 471[03:25:04] <zoomgry> if success, I'll reboot in a moment and check
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• 473[03:26:26] <markybob> !tell zoomgry about multiarch
• 474[03:26:32] <markybob> zoomgry: i'm guessing you never did that
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• 476[03:26:41] <markybob> but you don't need it so don't worry about it
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• 478[03:27:19] <zoomgry> that's what I did. downloaded a kde live cd. it had only 586 and 686. wonder whether I downloaded a wrong one.
• 479[03:27:36] <zoomgry> but it's not a big problem, I'll live without amd64 just fine
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• 481[03:28:26] <zoomgry> replaced-url
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• 491[03:38:05] <awwal> So guys, how to disable a given app which have a .desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart from being loaded/started at log in X?
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• 493[03:38:23] <awwal> how to prevent I meant ^
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• 497[03:42:00] <zoomgry> Hi, I'm on the new kernel now, but the sound problem still is the same.
• 498[03:42:27] <awwal> zoomgry, alsa + pulseaudio or just alsa there?
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• 500[03:42:41] <zoomgry> both, but I didn't try to remove pulseaudio and check again
• 501[03:42:55] <zoomgry> (if i can switch to phonon instead, that'd work too)
• 502[03:43:38] <markybob> zoomgry: have you tried installing/using pavucontrol?
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• 504[03:43:54] <awwal> how you ended having audio issue?, zoomgry when?
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• 507[03:47:53] <zoomgry> awwal: I upgraded a lot of things including the kernel this month
• 508[03:49:03] <somiaj> zoomgry: what is your audio issue/
• 509[03:49:27] <zoomgry> replaced-url
• 510[03:50:02] <somiaj> zoomgry: what version of debian are you running?
• 511[03:50:14] <zoomgry> jessie 8
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• 513[03:50:27] <somiaj> zoomgry: are you using a backport kernel?
• 514[03:50:39] <zoomgry> yes, since a few minutes ago I am, but it doesn't help
• 515[03:51:33] <somiaj> so it worked fine with jessie, then it stoped working fine, then you tried a newer kerne?
• 516[03:51:47] <somiaj> i.e. an upgarde of the stock jessie kernel caused this issue?
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• 519[03:51:59] <zoomgry_> somiaj, yes, since a few minutes ago I am, but it doesn't help; sorry, I lost the connection
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• 521[03:52:10] <somiaj> so it worked fine with jessie, then it stoped working fine, then you tried a newer kerne?
• 522[03:52:13] <somiaj> i.e. an upgarde of the stock jessie kernel caused this issue?
• 523[03:52:19] <zoomgry_> yes
• 524[03:52:30] <somiaj> zoomgry_: what are you using as your speakers?
• 525[03:52:35] <zoomgry_> builtin speakers
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• 529[03:53:25] <somiaj> zoomgry: it is rare that a upgrade of jessie changes things, but for testing reasons you could try to downgrade to the kernel you know that worked. And if it works on the older kernel, but not on the newer kernel file a regression bug.
• 530[03:54:08] <somiaj> zoomgry: it could also just be hardware, but I would try the kernel version you know worked and see if it still works.
• 531[03:54:15] <zoomgry> that'd work, I just don't know how to downgrade
• 532[03:54:23] <somiaj> you can get it at archive.debian.org if you don't have a copy in /var/cache/apt/archives anymore
• 533[03:54:27] <zoomgry> nor I know the version that worked, I only know the new one
• 534[03:54:53] <somiaj> zoomgry: you can look at the change log to see what date what versions was released, or just try archive.debian.org and download the .deb
• 535[03:55:00] <somiaj> zoomgry: amd64?
• 536[03:55:27] <somiaj> sorry not archive, snapshot.debian.org
• 537[03:55:32] <zoomgry> if it's called "linux-image-3.16.0-4-586_3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4_i386.deb" in the archives, then what version is it?
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• 540[03:57:32] <somiaj> zoomgry: replaced-url
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• 544[03:58:18] <somiaj> zoomgry: I'm unsure how old you have to go, I would drop the ckt?? versions, so if ckt20 isn't working, try ctk11-1+deb8u6
• 545[03:58:31] <somiaj> zoomgry: also remver these will have security issues, but testing will help give you info for a bugreport
• 546[03:59:04] <somiaj> you could also check your /var/log/apt and see what version you had before the upgrade you think caused it to not work.
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• 549[04:00:45] <somiaj> zoomgry: another random though, you don't have any amplifier or audio boost switch turned on the laptop or the mixer controls?
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• 552[04:01:58] <zoomgry> in history.log.2.gz i have linux-image-3.16.0-4-586:i386 installed on 9th of march 2016 so I'll reboot again, I thought that's the one I already have, not the one i installed in may 2016
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• 554[04:02:00] <jml2> i know if pulseaudio is buggy, it can cause audio distortions
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• 556[04:02:34] <zoomgry> I'll purge pulseaudio and reboot to check which kernel versions I have in grub
• 557[04:02:36] <somiaj> zoomgry: it iwll be the same package name, jsut different versions
• 558[04:02:41] <zoomgry> yes
• 559[04:02:51] <zoomgry> ah
• 560[04:02:58] <somiaj> so the only way to get older kerenels is to install the older package.
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• 564[04:03:38] <zoomgry> ok it was version 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3 installed in march, and 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4 installed in may
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• 566[04:04:04] <awwal> zoomgry, can you paste the output of dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image ?
• 567[04:04:34] <zoomgry> replaced-url
• 568[04:05:25] <awwal> lol, why all those kernels ?
• 569[04:06:37] <zoomgry> that's what came with the live cd + what I installed today
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• 576[04:11:10] <zoomgry> replaced-url
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• 578[04:12:31] <awwal> i how your system (you pkgs), being i386, are handled by all those different kernel arch, zoomgry
• 579[04:12:54] <jml2> dpkg -l is also a short form for dpkg --list
• 580[04:12:54] <dpkg> ii is also a short form for dpkg --list 2.1-11.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package
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• 582[04:14:07] * zinx installs ii by doing alias ii='dpkg --list'
• 583[04:14:28] <awwal> i wonder how your system I meant ^, lol
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• 589[04:18:46] <awwal> so if the whole pkgs in the system are i386, one can boot with an amd64 kernel just fine?
• 590[04:19:04] <zinx> yes
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• 594[04:20:16] <awwal> ok,
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• 599[04:22:21] <whitePawn> Im the waterfall in your head
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• 603[04:25:11] <zoomgry> at replaced-url
• 604[04:25:31] <zoomgry> mine were ckt20 but this page does not list them
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• 621[04:37:33] <zoomgry> somiaj: ^
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• 626[04:38:59] <xcel^iAMFiSH> anyone good with mplayer? whats the easiest way to view youtube in mplayer if even possible? Thanks
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• 630[04:40:21] <markybob> xcel^iAMFiSH: i know mpv, which is an mplayer2 fork, does. just "mpv url"
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• 632[04:40:29] <xcel^iAMFiSH> oh
• 633[04:41:05] <zoomgry> mplayer -playlist <(quvi dump -p rfc2483 youtube_url_here)
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• 640[04:45:33] <xcel^iAMFiSH> oh markybob mpv worked like a charm
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• 642[04:45:53] <markybob> xcel^iAMFiSH: yeah it's my new favorite
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• 657[04:57:31] <avis> howdy
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• 660[04:58:44] <avis> i was wonderin..... i save all my themes and icons in my home directory. debian doesn't automatically make use of em. i distro hop sometimes. not always my fault. i sure love lovely themes. they make me happy. anyone know how to get the debian install to utilize all home dir hidden themes and icons despite reinstall ?
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• 665[05:03:45] <karlpinc> avis: It would depend on what software is using the theme. You might look at the readme.debian for the software in question. Or just read the directions.
• 666[05:03:52] <karlpinc> !tell avis about readme.debian
• 667[05:04:40] <avis> thanks.
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• 681[05:13:25] <avis> X11? overwritin ?
• 682[05:14:41] <jml2> avis, distro hopping is a sni
• 683[05:14:49] <jml2> avis, *sin* :))
• 684[05:14:52] <jml2> tehehe
• 685[05:16:18] <avis> i love debian. but more money, more tricks.. i've seen it all
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• 691[05:19:58] <awwal> xcel^iAMFiSH, also you can use smtube and mps-youtube for browse and see youtube videos without X web beowser
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• 693[05:22:00] <awwal> btw, you nickname is f*** complicated. I no understand why some people choose a complicated nicknames
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• 695[05:22:26] <xcel--> awwal: ah, thanks looks great
• 696[05:22:56] <xcel--> awwal: no its just usually 4 chars :)
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• 698[05:23:30] <elky> awwal: do you know about tab completion?
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• 700[05:23:58] <awwal> yeah :) elky
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• 703[05:24:20] <elky> awwal: then you shouldn't have problems with the nicks ;)
• 704[05:24:25] <rachelfish> hi guys
• 705[05:24:26] <rachelfish> I like debian
• 706[05:24:30] <rachelfish> keep up the good work!!
• 707[05:24:53] <awwal> elky, someties I forget use it :P
• 708[05:25:08] <jaggz> thanks rachelfish ! it's people like you that give us the drive to do all this development!
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• 710[05:25:35] <jaggz> that's a joke -- I've not done any direct debian development myself
• 711[05:26:01] <xcel> my eyes bleeding from this irssi setup with joins/parts arnt on ignore lol
• 712[05:26:35] <awwal> jaggz, I thought you were the maintainer of dpkg :P
• 713[05:26:58] <jaggz> if I maintained a bot I think I'd try to go for some really cool ai
• 714[05:27:09] <jaggz> like microsoft's twitter ai?
• 715[05:27:36] <jaggz> my software's not recognizing my cuda..
• 716[05:27:51] <awwal> the bot no, i meant the real :Ppkg mangement
• 717[05:28:14] <jaggz> yeah I wasn't sure which you meant
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• 720[05:31:18] <n_blownapart> hi I'm getting an error while updating chrome on jessie 8 debian. I found solutions that don't seem to work. please take a look thanks : replaced-url
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• 724[05:34:14] <jmcnaught> n_blownapart: hello again. did you get the wifi issues all sorted out? If i recall correctly from last night you had some warnings about that chrome repo having duplicate entries.
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• 729[05:38:28] <n_blownapart> jmcnaught, yeah thanks for checking in. I removed and re-installed chrome and now my amazon streaming seems to be working well. Do I still have a problem though? the wifi dongle seems to have given me about 25 - 35 percent better signal.
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• 731[05:40:36] <n_blownapart> so thanks kindly !
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• 733[05:41:58] <sewerinspector> Hey all. I rebooted my thinkpad T450 and i'm now having issues with my touchpad. It's behaving erratically and synclient -l shows that the synaptics driver hasn't loaded. Here's a few relevant outputs: replaced-url
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• 739[05:43:39] <n_blownapart> jmcnaught, I wonder if I should ignore chrome errors while uploading considering it now streams videos pretty well with my new "dongle" :) ?
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• 741[05:43:51] <n_blownapart> upgrading*
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• 744[05:44:15] <jmcnaught> n_blownapart: it's worth resolving the errors in apt
• 745[05:44:29] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell n_blownapart about show sources.list
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• 748[05:47:31] <n_blownapart> the edits here were in fact done automatically replaced-url
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• 750[05:48:27] <n_blownapart> i.e. with the new install the sources.list.d file was that by default. jmcnaught
• 751[05:48:56] <jmcnaught> n_blownapart: try making a paste of the output of the command that dpkg messaged to you, it will show everything
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• 753[05:49:08] <jmcnaught> i still suspect duplicate entries
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• 755[05:52:37] <n_blownapart> jmcnaught, sorry, I don't follow. I didn't receive a command from dpkg
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• 758[05:53:34] <jmcnaught> !show sources.list n_blownapart
• 759[05:53:34] <dpkg> n_blownapart: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
• 760[05:54:02] <n_blownapart> thanks trying that jmcnaught
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• 764[05:54:55] <n_blownapart> jmcnaught, replaced-url
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• 767[05:56:01] <jmcnaught> n_blownapart: see how you have google-chrome.list and also google.list? you can just remove that google.list file
• 768[05:56:52] <n_blownapart> bingo jmcnaught I'll try it thanks !
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• 777[05:59:33] <n_blownapart> that did it jmcnaught thanks and blessings !
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• 779[06:00:02] <jmcnaught> n_blownapart: you're welcome
• 780[06:00:31] <jml2> would of said duplicate ignoring.. google's servers finally updated for i386
• 781[06:00:37] <jml2> or amd64...
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• 892[07:34:10] <zoomgry_> at replaced-url
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• 899[07:40:10] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: are you trying to use an older kernel because of a sound problem or do you have multiple problems? sound configuration files won't be in that package
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• 903[07:41:53] <zoomgry_> jmcnaught: I altered sound settings (don't remember which) and upgraded the kernel at the same time. I would like to debug these two problems separately
• 904[07:42:13] <zoomgry_> one of these two actions created the distorted sound issue
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• 909[07:44:31] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: do you remember if you changed sound settings system wide or just for one user? Have you tested with a different account?
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• 911[07:44:58] <zoomgry_> systemwide, yes itried
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• 913[07:45:46] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: the pulseaudio package has conffiles in /etc/pulse
• 914[07:45:59] <jmcnaught> !confnew
• 915[07:45:59] <dpkg> [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>.
• 916[07:46:37] <zoomgry_> (and please ignore the first part of my question, I misread and I'm downloading that kernel now)
• 917[07:46:39] <zoomgry_> ok
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• 919[07:48:12] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: also do you have a /etc/asound.state file (or anything similar)? Possibly you used a command like "alsactl store"?
• 920[07:49:02] <jmcnaught> actually sorry it would be /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
• 921[07:49:29] <zoomgry_> I already tried to purge alsa-base and pulseaudio and to remove the asound.state by hand and that did not help.
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• 925[07:50:42] <zoomgry_> I will be back in about 2 minutes
• 926[07:50:43] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: when it comes to conffiles you can check to see a package's conffiles with "dpkg --status pulseaudio" for example
• 927[07:50:51] <zoomgry_> Ok.
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• 932[07:55:28] <zoomgry_> I already tried to purge and reinstall alsa-base, pulseaudio, phonon; tried to downgrade the kernel from deb8u4 to deb8u3; does not help -- still the same problem.
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• 936[07:58:09] <zoomgry__> jmcnaught: which other packages would you suggest to purge and reinstall and remove their configs completely?
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• 940[07:59:35] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: if you run alsamixer and press F6 then select your sound card, are there any channels that are maxed out, or "toggle channels" with names like boost that might be causing too much amplification? Also does this happen with headphones/line-out?
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• 943[08:00:36] <jmcnaught> zoomgry__: instead of purging and reinstalling packages, the <confnew> factoid from dpkg has a cleaner method (that won't cause problems with dependencies also wanting to be removed)
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• 945[08:01:47] <zoomgry__> "dpkg --force-confnew pulseaudio" says "dpkg: error: need an action option". Can we update that factoid with an example, please? I'm going to dig it out in the man page in a few moments...
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• 948[08:03:36] <jmcnaught> zoomgry__: 'apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install pulseaudio' or 'aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall pulseaudio'
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• 951[08:04:21] <jmcnaught> zoomgry__: it's apt-get or aptitude that is telling dpkg to reinstall and passing non-default options to dpkg. Using dpkg alone is not enough
• 952[08:04:30] <zoomgry__> I see. thanks
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• 954[08:05:15] <jmcnaught> zoomgry__: do you get distortion over headphones/line-out?
• 955[08:05:27] <zoomgry__> with headphones it works ok
• 956[08:05:44] <zoomgry__> and there's nothing maxed out in alsamixer, I already checked yesterday
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• 958[08:07:11] <zoomgry__> it becomes red at volumes above 80%, but that's expected, and it should be able to go over 100% like it did before
• 959[08:07:25] <zoomgry__> while it'd distorted at anything above 50%
• 960[08:07:39] <jmcnaught> zoomgry__: at this point i would test with a live disk, if you still have the problem with a live boot, you could have simply worn out your speakers
• 961[08:09:03] <zoomgry__> ok
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• 963[08:09:30] <jmcnaught> hopefully it's not that, but if you test with a live boot at least you'll know
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• 1036[09:10:14] <zoomgry_> it does indeed have same problem with a live cd, and with a 2010 live cd too
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• 1039[09:10:47] <zoomgry_> thanks to whoever suggested that too! :-) (was it jmcnaught ? I do not remember)
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• 1049[09:14:47] <jmcnaught> zoomgry_: hey, that sucks. at least you figured it out and can stop troubleshooting the software side of things
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• 1141[10:24:37] <alkisg> Hi, apt complains that this repository of mine [replaced-url
• 1142[10:24:38] <alkisg> I read in replaced-url
• 1143[10:24:38] <alkisg> But my repository also has sha256... Reprepro doesn't yet support sha512, is the solution to just completely remove sha1?
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• 1166[10:37:30] <gr8> so, I have an email provider that allows aliases both for sending and receiving. I am looking for an easy to use email client that allows sending emails FROM arbitrary addresses, without creating a dedicated "account" for each address. Any ideas?
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• 1192[11:01:10] <zoomgry_> gr8: what environment?
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• 1196[11:01:57] <gr8> zoomgry_: desktop? XFCE, but how does that matter?
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• 1198[11:02:35] <jelly> I guess you probably wouldn't consider mutt as easy to use
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• 1210[11:11:06] <dutchfish> alkisg, have a peak in here, if i am not mistaken they are working on that
• 1211[11:11:12] <dutchfish> alkisg, replaced-url
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• 1216[11:13:08] <alkisg> dutchfish: thanks, which one of the projects are you referring to? apt<-> dpkg communication rework?
• 1217[11:13:18] <dutchfish> alkisg, also here replaced-url
• 1218[11:13:28] <dutchfish> alkisg, yes
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• 1222[11:14:51] <alkisg> dutchfish: I think the sums aren't the issue, as reprepro already includes sha256 sums, I think the issue is the signature... I worry that my dsa key can't produce sha256 signatures, according to this vbox thread: replaced-url
• 1223[11:15:20] <zoomgry_> gr8: sylpheed can't but claws mail can. Was just looking for something that isn't completely alien to your environment.
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• 1227[11:17:17] <zoomgry_> jelly: I was about to suggest emacs rmail, but I didn't want to assume the folk is a emacs user with the kitchen sink on top! :-)
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• 1232[11:18:09] <dutchfish> alkisg, replaced-url
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• 1234[11:18:38] <gr8> zoomgry_: wow you're right! I was using Sylpheed before so I assumed Claws would not have that as well
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• 1236[11:18:45] <dutchfish> alkisg, i dont know anything about vbox, since i dont use it, instead debhlper/dbuild
• 1237[11:18:58] <alkisg> dutchfish: I think I need to tell reprepro to pass "--digest-algo SHA512 to gpg" to gpg
• 1238[11:18:58] <zoomgry_> gr8: I just installed (and then removed) both of them to test. Claws just worked.
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• 1240[11:19:13] <gr8> zoomgry_: thanks for your help!
• 1241[11:19:20] <zoomgry_> gr8: congratulations on finding. :-) You're welcome.
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• 1245[11:19:56] <dutchfish> alkisg, look at default-preference-list inside the create key link
• 1246[11:20:36] <dutchfish> alkisg, its in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
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• 1248[11:20:51] <dutchfish> alkisg, and debhelper uses that
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• 1250[11:21:28] <dutchfish> alkisg, repepro needs still to be fixed
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• 1252[11:21:47] <dutchfish> alkisg, but as i said i believe thats on the agenda
• 1253[11:21:51] <alkisg> dutchfish: thanks, I did that part but reprepro doesn't seem to use it, I also tried exporting GNUPGHOME=$HOME/.gnupg but that didn't work either...
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• 1255[11:21:59] <dutchfish> alkisg, correct
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• 1257[11:22:01] <alkisg> I'll try to use a wrapper
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• 1259[11:22:16] <alkisg> (a wrapper gpg script that reprepro will go through...)
• 1260[11:22:48] <dutchfish> alkisg, you can try that, but better patch the reprepro and publish that fix to the miantainers
• 1261[11:23:09] <alkisg> I'll have to see if that's the issue first...
• 1262[11:23:17] <dutchfish> alkisg, anyway, good luck
• 1263[11:23:38] <alkisg> thanks a lot dutchfish!
• 1264[11:23:43] <dutchfish> alkisg, yw
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• 1297[11:43:23] <twnqx> hi! what's the equivalent of /etc/inittab with current debians?
• 1298[11:43:41] * twnqx would like to stop X from trying to start
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• 1304[11:45:03] <aphixe> hello guys. for some reason, on my old 32 bit intel system, when i installed it debian as netinstall it said couldn't connect mirror, so i installed base. and now its asking for login and password, yet i never set it up. is there a default
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• 1317[11:49:43] <jelly> twnqx: probably something like "systemctl disable gdm" or whatever the service used by your DM
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• 1329[11:52:30] <twnqx> thanks.
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• 1335[11:54:30] <aphixe> any suggestions for my issue
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• 1337[11:54:45] <xcel> oops
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• 1394[12:23:36] <Gabs5807> #aphixe boot from netinstall media, go step by step through the installation until the disk are found, then swith to an other console tty and mount the root partition. Now you can delete any password from /etc/shadow.
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• 1405[12:27:59] <Gabs5807> aphixe: boot from netinstall media, go step by step through the installation until the disk are found, then swith to an other console tty and mount the root partition. Now you can delete any password from /etc/shadow.
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• 1453[12:45:19] <Rovanion> When openssl is upgraded, are the dependant services such as sshd automatically restarted?
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• 1460[12:48:12] <teraflops> look at the postinst script?
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• 1462[12:48:24] <jelly> dpkg, tell Rovanion about needrestart
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• 1464[12:48:49] <jelly> or not.
• 1465[12:48:57] <jelly> judd: info needrestart
• 1466[12:49:00] <judd> Package needrestart (admin, optional) in jessie/amd64: check which daemons need to be restarted after library upgrades. Version: 1.2-8+deb8u1; Size: 22.8k; Installed: 186k; Homepage: replaced-url
• 1467[12:49:07] <jelly> Rovanion: ^^ consider having that installed.
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• 1478[12:53:57] <mosasaur> maybe it's a stupid question but when I (on jessie) do an apt-get update followed by an apt-get upgrade there's nothing to do for the upgrade, while ubuntu always upgrades some package. Should I be worried for missing out?
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• 1520[13:12:08] <TomTomTosch> mosasaur: the output of 'apt-cache policy' to paste.debian.net please.
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• 1540[13:17:53] <mosasaur> TomTomTosch: that makes me a bit paranoid, so no, but thanks for the tip anyway, I see that there's probably something wrong
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• 1543[13:18:40] <TomTomTosch> !tell mosasaur about jessie sources.list
• 1544[13:19:01] <TomTomTosch> mosasaur: then check if your sources.list matches with what the bot said.
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• 1546[13:20:46] <mosasaur> TomTomTosch: will do, thanks a lot
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• 1561[13:33:40] <AnonRecluse13> hey guys, has anyone used the ARM64-netinst.iso on a raspberry pi?
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• 1563[13:34:14] <AnonRecluse13> could i use unetbootin to pop it onto a micro sdxc and pop it in my pi top?
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• 1565[13:35:13] <AnonRecluse13> i am a Slackware user but development for it has ceased for ARM platforms like the Pi 3, I used to use Debian a few years ago.
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• 1568[13:37:18] <AnonRecluse13> i was planning on buying a pi-top and a RPi3 and building it with slackware on it, but if there is a version of Debian built for 64bit ARM chips, that would be awesome
• 1569[13:37:45] <AnonRecluse13> sorry for such a ramble, im going to have a smoke. Excuse me.
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• 1607[13:56:13] <mosasaur> /me successfully upgrades 245 mb of software
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• 1651[14:13:09] <dutchfish> jelly, can i use libproc-processtable-perl libsort-naturally-perl libmodule-scandeps-perl libterm-readkey-perl from stable while using needrestart from bpo?
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• 1655[14:14:11] <dutchfish> jelly, it ports back fine with libmodule-find-perl from stable
• 1656[14:14:19] <anoop> hello guys, I came up with a new way of representing IPv6 addresses , replaced-url
• 1657[14:15:19] <Dagger> anoop: try DNS instead
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• 1665[14:18:14] <jelly> dutchfish, that's how jessie-backports are supposed to work yes
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• 1668[14:18:41] <dutchfish> jelly, ok, thanks
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• 1670[14:19:00] <jelly> you should not have to care about dependencies manually at all
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• 1681[14:21:09] <jelly> AnonRecluse13, try asking in #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net (= irc.debian.org). Different irc network from this one.
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• 1696[14:27:02] <jelly> dutchfish: in fact I don't see any backports available for libintl-perl libproc-processtable-perl libsort-naturally-perl libmodule-scandeps-perl libterm-readkey-perl libmodule-find-perl ... so, there's no other option but versions from jessie
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• 1700[14:27:52] <dutchfish> jelly, ok, thanks again, it was a bit unclear to me, since i dont use bpo as repo on this stable system, but i do need latest needrestart. Thanks again
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• 1714[14:33:17] <AnonRecluse13> thank you jelly
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• 1732[14:42:47] <Aebian> is that a normal behavior to get a "permission denied" on a folder with 740 and files with 640? My webuser is the owner of the file but I can't cd inside it. Alltough I can do a ls -la ?! I tought permissions are like Owner | Group | Everyone so my webuser has bit 7 on the folder so fullaccess ?
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• 1738[14:45:11] <abrotman> Aebian: show us in a pastebin
• 1739[14:45:35] <Aebian> abrotman: what should I show? the set permissions?
• 1740[14:46:01] <jelly> and also point out which user and group is the web server running in
• 1741[14:46:01] <abrotman> sure
• 1742[14:46:07] <jelly> s/in/as/
• 1743[14:47:04] <jelly> Aebian: you need +x permissions to "cd inside"
• 1744[14:47:26] <jelly> how your user is going to get an effective +x is different story
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• 1751[14:48:35] <Aebian> replaced-url
• 1752[14:48:53] <Aebian> that are the permissions + the webuser + group info
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• 1758[14:53:09] <abrotman> can you type "id" and show us the error changing diretories?
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• 1760[14:53:49] <Aebian> stpuser@sx /home/aebian % id /online/replaced-url
• 1761[14:53:52] <Aebian> id: /online/replaced-url
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• 1763[14:53:59] <Aebian> you mean that?
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• 1769[14:54:29] <jelly> Aebian: no, just "id", nothing more
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• 1772[14:55:02] <Aebian> uid=1002(stpuser) gid=33(replaced-url
• 1773[14:56:02] <jelly> Aebian: that user ought to be able to cd into /online/replaced-url
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• 1775[14:57:02] <jelly> Aebian: so look at ls -ld / /online /online/replaced-url
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• 1826[15:20:10] <Angelica> Hey guys, i just purchased a dedicated VPS running Deb8, is there a way to find out if the machine can support kvm/virtualization
• 1827[15:20:20] <Angelica> it came with 5 ips so i'm assuming it can
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• 1841[15:25:45] <donoban> Angelica: try: cat /proc/cpuinfo
• 1842[15:26:01] <donoban> also: dmesg | grep kvm
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• 1847[15:29:16] <Angelica> donoban: Okie, here is the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo: replaced-url
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• 1849[15:30:14] <Angelica> donoban: and here is the output of dmesg | grep kvm - replaced-url
• 1850[15:31:05] <donoban> uhm, do you want to do nested virtualization?
• 1851[15:31:59] <Angelica> donoban: is that bad? xD
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• 1854[15:32:39] <donoban> no no, but I'm not sure if it needs something spsecial for working properly
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• 1858[15:34:08] <donoban> I think you don't have any flag which tells the CPU has virt extensions
• 1859[15:34:38] <Angelica> donoban: oh :x
• 1860[15:35:02] <Angelica> donoban: could i just throw a gui on the server and then run virtualbox? or is that not secure
• 1861[15:35:10] <Angelica> donoban: i want my server to remain secure
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• 1863[15:36:13] <donoban> I don't think virtualbox is a good option for doing this...
• 1864[15:36:47] <donoban> do you need GUI on the server? maybe Windows VM's?
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• 1866[15:37:12] <Angelica> donoban: I just meant so I could manage virtualbox, managing VB via shell seems meh
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• 1870[15:38:27] <donoban> maybe you can run libvirt and manage it with remote GUI, or open a VM for managing it and enter to it with VNC
• 1871[15:38:56] <donoban> if you dont need windows, maybe lxc are a better option than KVM
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• 1873[15:39:30] <donoban> I wouldn't think on virtualbox, it's a end-user virtualization system, made for being "easy". It's not for a server enviroment
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• 1877[15:40:00] <Angelica> donoban: okay, thank you :)
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• 1882[15:41:44] <donoban> what I think is that your VPS has no nested virtualization enabled (which seems the most common), so if you try to do something with virtualzation don't except very good performance
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• 1884[15:42:16] <Angelica> donoban: okay
• 1885[15:42:22] <floogy> Hi, I'm not able to upgrade from squeeze-lts to wheezy (lts), due to LANG=en apt-get install apt -t wheezy -o APT::Immediate-Configure=0
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• 1887[15:42:26] <floogy> ...
• 1888[15:42:39] <floogy> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'mysql-server-5.5'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
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• 1891[15:43:02] <floogy> replaced-url
• 1892[15:43:02] <Angelica> donoban: thanks again
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• 1896[15:44:25] <floogy> This will NOT only update apt from apt(squeeze) to apt(wheezy) it seems to try updating the whole system like dist-upgrade.
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• 1899[15:45:01] <donoban> floogy I have no idea, maybe you get more luck on #debian-lts
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• 1901[15:45:29] <floogy> ok, thank you.
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• 1903[15:45:32] <donoban> at otfc.net
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• 1905[15:45:43] <donoban> irc.otfc.net
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• 1907[15:46:19] <floogy> OFTC?
• 1908[15:46:31] <donoban> uhM
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• 1910[15:46:44] <donoban> lol yes
• 1911[15:46:51] <donoban> sorry :P
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• 1914[15:46:55] <floogy> It's not in my hexchat list.
• 1915[15:47:00] <floogy> ok, thx.
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• 1918[15:47:31] <donoban> there is also irc.debian.org, but IIRC it's a redirect to oftc
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• 1942[15:56:52] <kangelane> I just launched the default debian-8.4 image and I cannot log into it ... ssh is not working with pem and the user is supposed to be admin without password, but it says permission denied whatever I do. help ?
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• 1945[15:57:37] <kangelane> sorry this is the openstack debian image
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• 1957[16:05:27] <frostie> why does not vivaldi browser detect adobe flash nor pepper flash? installed both and non is detect by vivaldi browser in debian 8 x64??
• 1958[16:06:32] <frostie> vivaldi browser is a chromium based browser and should detect pepper flash?
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• 1961[16:07:31] <kangelane> well I used wrong username, it was debian, but how am I supposed to know that ? And I used a key, no idea what the password was.
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• 1963[16:07:37] <donoban> does anyone know when replaced-url
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• 1966[16:08:06] <frostie> so how do i make vivaldi browser notice pepper flash?
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• 1969[16:09:44] <themill> donoban: roundcube in jessie will never change
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• 1972[16:10:19] <themill> for jessie-backports, you'd need to contact the backporter or the backports mailing list
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• 1976[16:10:59] <donoban> themill: also on backports?
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• 1978[16:11:57] <donoban> themill: I've already sent a mail but it isn't approved yet
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• 1980[16:12:44] <frostie> this came up in the terminal: replaced-url
• 1981[16:12:45] <donoban> well, I sent it to roundcube mantainers
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• 1995[16:23:08] <lucas-arg> hello all...
• 1996[16:23:16] <lucas-arg> one litle question if anyone can help me
• 1997[16:23:25] <lucas-arg> how do i add backports to my debian ??
• 1998[16:23:43] <themill> replaced-url
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• 2002[16:26:37] <japa> /script install buffers.pl autosort.py otr.py
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• 2021[16:45:52] <lucas-arg> how to play mp4 files??
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• 2023[16:45:58] <lucas-arg> cant get them to work with totem
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• 2026[16:47:09] <jelly> lucas-arg: huh, they ought to work. Try mpv instead
• 2027[16:47:15] <baum> with "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs noatime,nosuid 0 0" in my etc/fstab file my root partition boots read-only. by chance anyone can tell me why that's the case?
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• 2029[16:47:54] <AimHere> lucas-arg, vlc should work too
• 2030[16:48:10] <jelly> baum: are you talking about /tmp or / filesystem when you say "boots read-only"?
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• 2032[16:48:28] <lucas-arg> AimHere, but why cant i play it with totem??
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• 2034[16:48:53] <baum> jelly: actually both
• 2035[16:49:17] <jelly> lucas-arg: hard to say. What if you close all running totem processes, open a terminal, run "totem /path/to/your.mp4" and see if there's any useful output in the terminal?
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• 2037[16:49:31] <jelly> lucas-arg: which debian release is this?
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• 2039[16:49:36] <lucas-arg> 8.4
• 2040[16:49:38] <lucas-arg> lastest
• 2041[16:49:40] <lucas-arg> i guess
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• 2043[16:49:47] <lucas-arg> ill try
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• 2045[16:50:12] <nikolov> how to use full hd resolution radeon free driver
• 2046[16:50:22] <nikolov> conf
• 2047[16:50:26] <nikolov> x.org
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• 2049[16:51:21] <baum> can it be that /tmp fails - thus the system uses / by default, and it's read-only since it's some kind of failsafe mode?
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• 2051[16:51:40] <lucas-arg> this is what i get when i try to open a mp4 with totem replaced-url
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• 2055[16:53:00] <jelly> lucas-arg: sadly that's not relevant at all. Does audio fail or video fail or both? Does totem complain of anything? Does the UI appear as if the media is playing, but nothing is visible?
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• 2059[16:53:37] <jelly> lucas-arg: and also what happens with mpv or vlc?
• 2060[16:54:01] <lucas-arg> vlc plays it ok
• 2061[16:54:14] <lucas-arg> both video and audio
• 2062[16:54:31] <lucas-arg> totem does not complain about anything it shows a white screen
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• 2064[16:55:03] <jelly> does it tick seconds and move the progress bar, or does it think it's not playing at all?
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• 2066[16:55:38] <lucas-arg> i think i had to install gstreamer1....plugins
• 2067[16:55:43] <lucas-arg> ill see what happens
• 2068[16:55:50] <lucas-arg> i did install gstreamer0....
• 2069[16:55:51] <lucas-arg> not 1..
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• 2072[16:57:15] <lucas-arg> nope that did not help
• 2073[16:59:15] <jelly> lucas-arg: gstreamer1.0-libav gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly are in Recommends, are they installed now?
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• 2075[17:00:47] <lucas-arg> yup
• 2076[17:00:49] <lucas-arg> they are
• 2077[17:00:54] <lucas-arg> i might reboot the system??
• 2078[17:01:01] <lucas-arg> after installation?
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• 2080[17:01:38] <TomTomTosch> no, i don't think it would help.
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• 2082[17:02:22] <lucas-arg> ive installed all
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• 2084[17:02:38] <lucas-arg> sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0* and gstreamer0.10*
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• 2086[17:02:57] <lucas-arg> maybe thats the problem?
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• 2090[17:04:43] <lucas-arg> nope
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• 2093[17:04:49] <lucas-arg> didnt help either
• 2094[17:05:38] <lucas-arg> what am i doin wrong?!
• 2095[17:07:00] <emr> Hello, i created init script on /etc/init, so whats next? is it going to execute on defined runlevels or do i need to call something like update-rc.d?
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• 2233[18:20:38] <blackbart> Does anyone know how I can mount a Samsung Galaxy S3 under jessie?
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• 2258[18:32:21] <wsky> hey did anyone notice hibernation issues with kernel 4.5?
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• 2262[18:33:26] <wsky> like the os sometimes does not hiberante at all but partially shuts computer down
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• 2264[18:33:57] <wsky> but not entirely so it has to be rebooted and booted again anyway
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• 2295[18:42:07] <frostie> hi, i had some issues with pepper flash plugin and i found this: replaced-url
• 2296[18:42:21] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 2298[18:44:06] <frostie> so it is replaced-url
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• 2302[18:47:35] <frostie> didnt help... still same issue i do: wget replaced-url
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• 2316[18:54:39] <xormor> how does proposed-updates differ from updates in /etc/apt/sources.list?
• 2317[18:54:51] <xormor> are proposed-updates less safe/secure?
• 2318[18:55:09] <frostie> anyways it seems to be an error with different key id also, after read the bug report, so i can wait for update.
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• 2323[18:57:17] <y014> Hi, could someone point me in the right direction ? I have AMD CPU with built in graphics onto which I have connected 1st monitor over hdmi. I have also radeon 5 and second monitor is attached to it. Since I am using radeon drivers only second monitor is detected
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• 2329[18:59:13] <frostie> proposed updates as i understand are testing packages before they end up in the repos
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• 2336[19:02:21] <marcv> Hello. I'm on a debian Jessie VPS. Some script is trying to read the kernel config in /boot/config-$(uname -r), however my /boot dir is empty. Am I missing some package?
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• 2338[19:03:00] <y014> marcv: you might be on container
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• 2341[19:03:37] <y014> marcv: whats your kernel ?
• 2342[19:03:52] <marcv> 2.6.32-042stab111.12
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• 2347[19:05:17] <frostie> xormor: replaced-url
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• 2349[19:07:17] <y014> marcv: yep. You're on OpenVZ container. You cant change kernel nor boot options.
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• 2351[19:08:16] <y014> marcv: meaning, anything that tries to access /boot od load kernel modules will fail
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• 2353[19:08:45] <marcv> y014: Thanks for the info. The fact is I'm trying to install docker and it won't, whith messages I don't understand. I was running a docker config check script and the first message it gives me is it can't find the kernel config. Maybe I'll ask on #docker. Thanks again.
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• 2357[19:09:44] <y014> marcv: replaced-url
• 2358[19:10:51] <marcv> Nice! thanks y014
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• 2360[19:11:31] <awwal> Why qemu/kvm wont (via virt-manager) won't let assign more then 2047 mb for the gest VM?
• 2361[19:11:52] <awwal> 2047 mb ram ^
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• 2364[19:12:53] <y014> awwal: is it 32bit host ?
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• 2367[19:13:39] <awwal> y014, yes jessie i386. I was wthinking if that is because the arch is i386. it is so?
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• 2369[19:14:35] <y014> awwal: yes, its to do with i386. in 64bit you can go higher than that
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• 2373[19:15:16] <y014> awwal: PAE doent work with virtualization
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• 2385[19:18:47] <sshine> hrm, apparently my VPS running Debian fails at UTF-8. it has LANG and LC_* set properly, it seems, but if I write a symbol like π, it messes up.
• 2386[19:18:48] <awwal> y014, my host is jessie i386 pae kernel; and virtualization works just fine (once enbaled in bios). my guest is also jessie i386 pae kernel. Virtualbox lets me up to 4 mb and have a feature for enable pae stuff for the guest, I guess qemu/kvm enables that by default.
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• 2388[19:19:21] <awwal> vbox lets me assign up to 4 mb ram ^
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• 2392[19:21:23] <y014> awwal: on KVM PAE doesnt work. So it treats your host as you would not use PAE kernel. Meaning that it can assing only 2047 MB of ram to VM as host needs to have memory is well which is the rest available from ~4GB
• 2393[19:22:28] <y014> awwal: replaced-url
• 2394[19:22:38] <awwal> y014, ok, ok. thanks for the info ;)
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• 2408[19:31:23] <dontknow> can i make title bar disappear for gtk3 apps without using compton on xfce?
• 2409[19:32:56] <dontknow> without using compositor to be more precise
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• 2411[19:33:43] <dontknow> when using compositor there is no title bar for gtk3 apps
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• 2426[19:38:11] <nkuttler> dpkg: crystalhd
• 2427[19:38:11] <dpkg> The Broadcom BCM70012 and BCM70015 "Crystal HD" chipsets are high definition video decoders/processors. Broadcom's Crystal HD driver is part of the Linux kernel's staging tree since Linux 2.6.34, this is not enabled in Debian Linux kernel images (see <kernel handbook> to rebuild); firmware is required and packaged as firmware-crystalhd in <non-free>. The Crystal HD shared library is packaged as libcrystalhd3.
• 2428[19:38:30] <nkuttler> that doesn't seem accurate? i have a /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/staging/crystalhd/crystalhd.ko
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• 2434[19:42:05] <shibly> I've run this aptitude --purge remove openjdk-7-jdk , but java -version still remains
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• 2436[19:42:13] <shibly> How can i completely remove java ?
• 2437[19:42:52] <markybob> shibly: remove jre as well
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• 2443[19:44:41] <shibly> I've removed openjdk-7-jre too.
• 2444[19:44:59] <shibly> Oh, I had to remove this : sudo aptitude --purge remove openjdk-7-jre-headless , now it looks java is gone
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• 2447[19:45:46] <markybob> fyi for the future...you can use wildcards. so openjdk*
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• 2464[19:52:02] <asterismo> !dpkg bpo
• 2465[19:52:02] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read replaced-url
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• 2521[20:13:40] <MrHanki> Client: HexChat 2.12.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz (2.30GHz) • Memory: 7.8 GiB Total (4.8 GiB Free) • Storage: 165.1 GiB / 213.6 GiB (48.5 GiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M, Intel(R) HD Graphics 530 • Uptime: 16m 37s
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• 2523[20:14:52] <ryouma> what does htis mean? tried googling, nobody seems to know what action 19 is. rsyslogd "action 'action 19' suspended, next retry is"
• 2524[20:14:56] <dontknow> MrHanki, lol windows 10
• 2525[20:15:12] <markybob> MrHanki: we were all so curious. thank you so much.
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• 2554[20:29:09] <qqz> I have the exact image of a blue ray in a HDD partition
• 2555[20:29:35] <qqz> however when I change cdrom:// to file:/// apt-get install complains that it would not have the necessary keyrings.
• 2556[20:29:43] <qqz> how is that possible?
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• 2613[21:04:11] * zykotick9 kinda thinks any install that is not netinst based (with possible local caching services running) is "doing it wrong"... but ymmv (and i can see the possible requirement for offline installing... but what a pain)
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• 2617[21:05:01] <Vax11780> hello
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• 2622[21:06:14] <Vax11780> hi
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• 2624[21:07:16] <zykotick9> Vax11780: do you have a question about debian? if so, you should just go ahead and ask it (lots of detail, and all on one line) PS. no need for hello/hi in irc channels, just blert out your question and see is someone replies ;) good luck.
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• 2659[21:23:56] <tharkun> What is the standard debian way of checking that a disk is working properly?
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• 2661[21:24:33] <dagerik> tharkun: smartctl
• 2662[21:24:38] <dagerik> SMART
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• 2672[21:27:46] <tharkun> dagerik: Thanks :)
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• 2674[21:28:51] <floogy> Hi, on a Virtuozzo Server with low memory mysql does not start. I get mysqld: InnoDB: Error: pthread_create returned 11
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• 2680[21:29:51] <floogy> cat /proc/user_beancounters gives failcnt on privvmpages
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• 2682[21:30:31] <floogy> I also tried this tuning: replaced-url
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• 2693[21:35:58] <buu> Guys
• 2694[21:36:16] <buu> How does X tell when a monitor is plugged in? And more importantly, how do I query for this information?
• 2695[21:36:35] <zinx> DDC, and there's probably more than one way
• 2696[21:36:39] <tharkun> buu: xrandr
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• 2698[21:36:48] <zinx> and the right way does not involve DDC directly :)
• 2699[21:36:54] <ryouma> buu: there is something i know nothing about called the i2c bus that might be related
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• 2701[21:37:06] <zinx> well, i guess there's a non-DDC connected signal too
• 2702[21:37:24] <zinx> ryouma: that's DDC
• 2703[21:37:31] <ryouma> zinx: yeah
• 2704[21:37:35] <buu> signal?
• 2705[21:37:42] <buu> Like something I can catch?
• 2706[21:37:52] <zinx> no
• 2707[21:37:56] <ryouma> buu: you can query by grepping logs for your usb hub being connected or disconnected
• 2708[21:37:58] <zinx> physical thing
• 2709[21:38:02] <buu> .. usb?
• 2710[21:38:04] <buu> what
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• 2713[21:38:14] <tharkun> buu: What are you trying to acomplish?
• 2714[21:38:14] <ryouma> buu: that's what i do
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• 2716[21:38:23] <buu> ryouma: How is your monitor related to usb?
• 2717[21:38:53] <buu> tharkun: I'm trying to work around the long, long outstanding bug where xorg will deallocate a monitor when it is turned off but not reallocate it when it is turned back on
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• 2720[21:39:19] <ryouma> your usecase might be different, but if some monitors are turned off, their usb hubs lsoe power
• 2721[21:39:40] <buu> Oddly my monitor doesn't have a usb hub.
• 2722[21:39:42] <buu> ...
• 2723[21:39:46] <ryouma> i'd sure like to have a direct (ddc presumably) way of telling when a monitor is turned off
• 2724[21:39:46] <tharkun> buu: That one, report back when you do it. I tried and failed :(
• 2725[21:40:09] <tharkun> Still the way xrandr works might be of help for you.
• 2726[21:40:10] <buu> tharkun: I used to have a solution that involved tailing syslog for the INVALID EDID message from my hdmi port
• 2727[21:40:28] <buu> Yeah, xrandr definitely notices
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• 2729[21:40:43] <buu> But I'm trying to find something slightly more clever than calling xrandr in a loop infinitely
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• 2731[21:41:38] <buu> connect(3, {sa_family=AF_LOCAL, sun_path=@"/tmp/.X11-unix/X0"}, 20) = 0
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• 2749[21:49:51] <relipse2> all of a sudden mysql won't restart or allow me to connect: service mysql restart Job for mysql.service failed. See 'systemctl status mysql.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
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• 2772[22:04:40] <jmcnaught> relipse2: what do the details say? you can also add "-u mysql" to that journalctl to narrow it to messages from mysql
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• 2816[22:29:13] <mefistoteles> hello, I use MSI wind u135dx, a netbook with power boost button for CPU, it boost processor from 1.7GHz to 2.1GHz. At least at windows, at linux it do nothing. Is there a way to overclock CPU at linux without playing with bios?
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• 2837[22:39:11] <countbackula> GUYS! HELP! I'm installing Deebs on a new laptop and I didn't notice the power was low- it effing DIED during the final steps of installation. Post disk-encryption, partition, everything. I'm not sure how to even power it back on.
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• 2841[22:40:04] <countbackula> Macbook pro retina mid 2014, dual booted. Anyone have any experience with a disaster like this?
• 2842[22:40:40] <tme5> final steps, do you remember what exactly?
• 2843[22:40:48] <tme5> package install?
• 2844[22:41:18] <TomTomTosch> countbackula: you can just repeat the installation if you are not sure.
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• 2846[22:41:30] <countbackula> yeah, post dpkg... there was about 10% left at system installation
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• 2848[22:42:53] <tme5> maybe you could try to boot, and finish install?
• 2849[22:43:13] <tme5> is there some meta-package for base debian? idk
• 2850[22:43:21] <countbackula> You know what, nevermind. Worst case scenario I just re-boot into OS X and re-gdisk the encrypted volumes
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• 2853[22:44:01] <countbackula> Thanks anyway- I just panicked and hopped into this room
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• 2864[22:49:05] <buu> Breaking news
• 2865[22:49:07] <buu> xorg is the devil
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• 2877[22:58:42] <buu> lol, I turned off the receiver and it hardlocked X
• 2878[23:00:17] <buu> And the video card
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• 2899[23:09:34] <awwal> Is there any pkg similar to microsoft outlook and with similar features?
• 2900[23:10:51] <markybob> evolution is the closest thing
• 2901[23:11:24] <markybob> i hate it. i use geary
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• 2906[23:12:20] <awwal> markybob, I have tried evolution too but I hate it too xD , but never heard about geary; I will try it. thanks
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• 2908[23:13:34] <jmcnaught> icedove + iceowl (aka thunderbird + lightning). or for KDE there's some sort of combo with KMail and others
• 2909[23:13:55] <markybob> yeah but mozilla pretty much gave up on thunderbird
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• 2914[23:17:10] <Pr0metheus> i use evolution cause of caldav & carddav + contacts & calendar integrate with gnome, if you get used to its drawbacks and the lag you can use it:)
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• 2935[23:25:18] <jmcnaught> i'm hoping that thunderbird will get adopted by the document foundation and get better intergrated with libreoffice or something.. i don't think thunderbird's story is over yet
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• 2961[23:38:17] <prussian> I've been using evolution as well, but I'm wondering why I don't have spell check
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• 2964[23:40:03] <markybob> prussian: you probably don't have the aspell dictionary installed for your language
• 2965[23:40:27] <prussian> hmm, I thought I had hunspell. let me check
• 2966[23:40:52] <markybob> so? evolution uses aspell
• 2967[23:40:55] <prussian> aspell-en is already the newest version (7.1-0-1.1).
• 2968[23:40:57] <prussian> ya
• 2969[23:40:58] <prussian> weird
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• 2971[23:41:15] <prussian> I'll look into it later
• 2972[23:41:23] <prussian> or go back to thunderbird.
• 2973[23:41:25] <prussian> idk
• 2974[23:41:47] <gr8> is there another mail client like Claws mail that lets me set the sender address by hand, but is not Claws?
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• 2979[23:44:09] <jmcnaught> gr8: Icedove lets you configure identities for an account, and then when you send an email you can select the identity by using a dropdown in the from field
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• 2994[23:51:31] <gr8> jmcnaught: oh really? I thought you had to create another account. Thanks, I'll take a look
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• 2996[23:52:13] <jmcnaught> gr8: there's a "manage identities" button on the account preferences, and it has a default identity for each account
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• 2998[23:52:35] <gr8> I have found this (replaced-url
• 2999[23:53:14] <gr8> can Icedove use ML format?
• 3000[23:53:57] <gr8> eh, MH
• 3001[23:54:14] <jmcnaught> MH?
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• 3004[23:54:34] <gr8> yes MH all my mail is in MH format. One mail per file
• 3005[23:54:53] <gr8> I get MUCH email so that's better performance
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• 3009[23:55:58] <gr8> replaced-url
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• 3012[23:57:07] <gr8> ok it's called maildir now replaced-url
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• 3014[23:57:24] <tga> what's the secret for getting xfce and gtk3 themes to play nice together?
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• 3016[23:58:27] <tga> afaik greybird should also work with gtk3, but in testing it doesn't
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