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26 [00:05:33] <ryouma> ohemdevin: that might be better, but i
would still want it in a debian repo or at least sandboxed in some
way
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49 [00:19:10] <echosystm> i'm making OS images using
debootstrap
50 [00:19:20] <echosystm> everything works fine, except it
always fails on first boot
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52 [00:19:37] <echosystm> i get all kinds of errors and it never
reaches login
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54 [00:19:52] <echosystm> but if i turn it off and turn it back
on again (lel) it works
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58 [00:20:16] <echosystm> my guess is there's a bunch of
folders/files that are missing and get created on first boot
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60 [00:20:20] <echosystm> but how can i fix this?
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64 [00:22:15] <neilthereildeil> can someone please help me setup
netowrking in my debian VM?
65 [00:22:22] <neilthereildeil> ifconfig shows eth0
66 [00:22:35] <neilthereildeil> and i see sent and recieved
bytes are non-0
67 [00:22:43] <neilthereildeil> but i cannot ping gateway
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77 [00:24:18] <sweettea> is there a bridge or somesuch to the vm
network?
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101 [00:30:29] <neilthereildeil> yea
102 [00:30:42] <neilthereildeil> other VMs on the same bridge can
see the network
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106 [00:31:27] <neilthereildeil> i see RX/TX bytes are non zero
in ifconfig
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118 [00:34:34] <neilthereildeil> how else can i troubleshoot
this?
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122 [00:35:33] <jhutchins> neilthereildeil: Compare what
you've set up for the debian VM with what's set up for the
ones that work.
123 [00:35:55] <neilthereildeil> is this applicable for debian?
124 [00:35:56] <neilthereildeil>
replaced-url
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126 [00:36:28] <neilthereildeil> the "alias eth0 tulip"
line
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134 [00:39:15] <jhutchins> neilthereildeil: What's your VM
Host and hypervisor?
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137 [00:40:48] <neilthereildeil> ohh wait nm. gotit. the IP i was
pinging to test doesnt respond to pings!
138 [00:40:51] <latemus> debian wont install mai ruby gem, tfw
you gais-
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140 [00:40:59] <latemus> halp
replaced-url
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150 [00:47:13] <winsen> does anyone know why I can't install
package for skype :replaced-url
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152 [00:50:17] <zykotick9> winsen: see "/msg dpkg
skype" for details (.. why this can't be a #debian issue,
it's not a debian package)
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156 [00:51:41] <winsen> zykotick9: bash: /msg: No such file or
directory
157 [00:51:55] <zykotick9> in irc
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161 [00:53:45] <zykotick9> winsen: did you get the PM (private
message) from dpkg about skype?
162 [00:53:57] <zykotick9> !skype
163 [00:53:57] <dpkg> Skype is a proprietary cross-platform
<VoIP> service and application owned by Microsoft. Debian
cannot distribute the application due to its license. See
replaced-url
164 [00:54:03] <winsen> zykotick9: no I don't
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166 [00:54:09] <zykotick9> ^
167 [00:55:00] <winsen> zykotick9: thanks. I'll see
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174 [00:56:59] <zykotick9> !skype amd64
175 [00:57:00] <dpkg> From Debian 7 "Wheezy" onwards,
installing Skype on amd64 requires you to make use of
<multi-arch>. «dpkg --add-architecture i386 &&
apt-get update && wget -O skype-install.deb
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184 [00:59:24] <winsen> zykotick9: but I am using Debian8
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230 [01:11:03] <zykotick9> winsen: i'm sure the mult-arch
stuff still applies! thus the "onwards" in the factoid...
<- _if_ you are on amd64/x86_64 "uname -a" would show
you (vs i686 i think?)
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234 [01:13:44] <zykotick9> ^ oh if you see anything PAE
that's 32bit as well!
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261 [01:28:18] <winsen> zykotick9:
replaced-url
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566 [04:03:32] <N9NU> are all 3 ISO DVD's full of apps?
567 [04:03:39] <N9NU> no src code i mean
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584 [04:08:15] <dvs> correct
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694 [04:48:19] <yokisuci> :/
695 [04:48:44] <AlexLikeRock> hi awal1 o/
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699 [04:49:21] <yokisuci> AlexLikeRock: huh?
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701 [04:49:42] <AlexLikeRock> awal1, its my friend :-D
702 [04:50:02] <yokisuci> AlexLikeRock: Oh i missed there was a
person called awal1 here ^^
703 [04:50:37] <xynta> 0_o
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708 [04:52:06] <cpu__> Hi, I'm from Brazil, is there a
Brazilian here?
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710 [04:52:16] <missmbob> !br
711 [04:52:16] <dpkg> Este canal é apenas em inglês.
Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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713 [04:53:12] <cpu__> ok, sorry
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716 [04:54:22] <l4m8d4> On my system, I have some packages that
nothing depends on, that are automatically installed and still, they
are not getting removed by apt autoremove
717 [04:54:37] <l4m8d4> What is going on? I thought apt
autoremove was intended for that purpose?
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719 [04:55:22] <missmbob> !deborphan
720 [04:55:23] <dpkg> deborphan is a package that will tell you
what library packages you have installed that nothing's using.
If you want remove all packages use 'deborphan | xargs apt-get
-y remove --purge', or a nice tool to clean up grown debians.
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721 [04:55:24] <awal1> l4m8d4: check why they are there via
aptitude why pkgname
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723 [04:56:01] <awal1> also use aptitude purge ~o
724 [04:56:21] <awal1> but check cloesly the output (s)
725 [04:57:19] <awal1> deborphan can be silly sometimes/if you
don't know what you're doing :P
726 [04:57:45] <awal1> with it, you may end removing all your
system :D
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730 [04:58:50] <themill> l4m8d4: autoremove will only remove
packages that are "automatically installed" and
that's unrelated to "nothing depends on it". Also,
Recommends and Suggests will keep packages installed.
731 [04:59:53] <n4dir> i may yet have to experience anything even
close to " remove all your system" when using deborphan
(and i usually use deboprhan --guess-all too)
732 [05:00:11] <l4m8d4> themill: That's what I was talking
about, sorry. These packages are both automatically installed AND
nothing depends on it
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734 [05:00:44] <l4m8d4> themill: But recommends and suggests
could be the issue here I guess
735 [05:00:44] <themill> l4m8d4: You're only looking at
Depends relationships not Recommends or Suggests.
736 [05:00:49] <themill> yep
737 [05:00:54] <yokisuci> n4dir: well, be happy for that.
I've manage to remove waaaay to much with deborphan on a ubuntu
system. but that was like atleast 5-7 years ago.
738 [05:00:57] <awal1> deborphan is fine "if you know what
you do "
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742 [05:01:23] <yokisuci> awal1: exacly. if you don't, you
should be careful with it or you can end up with a broken system
like i did ^^
743 [05:01:50] <n4dir> depends what you consider a broken system.
744 [05:02:22] <awal1> I don't think deborphan is a
recommended tool for non experienced users
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747 [05:02:40] <yokisuci> n4dir: a system that doesn't start
at all because i somehow managed to remove way to much back then.
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749 [05:03:01] <themill> l4m8d4: -o
APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant=False -o
APT::AutoRemove::SuggetsImportant=False ← check and double
check what it is planning
750 [05:03:03] <n4dir> that is a different statement than
removing all of your system"
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753 [05:03:52] <yokisuci> >.<
754 [05:03:55] <n4dir> stuff you didn't want to gets
removed? so? reinstall it. duh.
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756 [05:05:10] <l4m8d4> themill: Okay. With these options it
wants to delete a LOT of packages
757 [05:05:20] <awal1> n4dir: if just you think a little
bit...how can you remove all your system? that's impossible if
it's in use
758 [05:05:30] <yokisuci> n4dir: Well that's easier said
then done with pretty much didn't start. I probably
wouldn't have any problem with it now days, but because of that
I, like awall, wouldn't recommend it to someone that
doesn't know what he's doing or atleast be careful with
it.
759 [05:05:48] <awal1> all system is just a metaphore, remove a
lot of stuff
760 [05:06:30] <themill> l4m8d4: "yay"
761 [05:07:23] * yokisuci wants to try sudo rm -r /* someday... o:)
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764 [05:08:18] <l4m8d4> themill: What do these options stand for
exactly? Because it wants to remove some stuff that seems important,
like linux-headers-amd64, and I think my graphics driver needs tht
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774 [05:13:30] <l4m8d4> themill: Does it just ignore suggests and
recommends then?
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787 [05:19:23] <Stiffler> hey guys
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789 [05:19:48] <AlexLikeRock> hi Stiffler
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791 [05:19:56] <Stiffler> mine sources.list i think is fcked as i
cant install deluge due to unmet dependencies
792 [05:19:59] <Stiffler> anyhelp
793 [05:20:04] <Stiffler> using stretch
794 [05:20:05] <somiaj> !bat
795 [05:20:05] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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798 [05:20:20] <somiaj> also you should be asking on #debian-next
on irc.oftc.net
799 [05:20:27] <Stiffler> not going their
800 [05:20:32] <Stiffler> i had bad exp their
801 [05:20:42] <missmbob> you've had some here too. hard to
forget you
802 [05:20:49] <AlexLikeRock> Stiffler, unistall, and install
TRANSSMISION
803 [05:20:53] <Stiffler> :)
804 [05:21:05] <Stiffler> i uninstall ed it
805 [05:21:12] <Stiffler> qbittorent installed
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807 [05:21:17] <Stiffler> i want deluge too
808 [05:21:22] <n4dir> bad expriences is what is asked for (me
runs for his pitchfork)
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812 [05:22:25] <yokisuci> Stiffler: Why so many torrent clients?
:S
813 [05:23:02] <Stiffler>
replaced-url
814 [05:23:02] <Stiffler> well i had to like normal cleint and
abnormal one
815 [05:23:15] <yokisuci> imo transmission is the easiest gtk
client...and transmission-cli is pretty easy to handle as a terminal
client.
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817 [05:23:36] <Stiffler> now when going into synaptic ite tell
me unmet dependencies
818 [05:23:49] <Stiffler> as deluge is installed without
libtorrent
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820 [05:24:06] <missmbob> at least you're keeping up your
tradition of not answering questions. this will go well.
821 [05:24:12] <AlexLikeRock> Coment line 8 and 9
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823 [05:24:22] <Stiffler> trans has almost no to none options
824 [05:24:43] <Stiffler> what i didnt answer?
825 [05:24:50] <AlexLikeRock> then apt-get update
826 [05:24:55] <yokisuci> Stiffler: install the libtorrent
package if you're having issues with deluge. Hasn't used
deluge for a while, but from what i remember I hade to install more
than the deluge package.
827 [05:24:55] <Stiffler> did
828 [05:25:07] <Stiffler> no libtorrent packaes in apt
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830 [05:25:31] <Stiffler> synaptic show unmet dep
831 [05:25:42] <Stiffler> while only non standalone installs in
system
832 [05:25:45] <Stiffler> weird..
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837 [05:26:10] <yokisuci> Stiffler: sudo apt-get intall
python-libtorrent
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840 [05:26:33] <somiaj> Stiffler: the bot asked you to produce
the output of some info and put it at paste.debian.net, you should
start there.
841 [05:26:37] <yokisuci> Stiffler: ....or sudo apt-gt install
deluge deluge-gtk
842 [05:26:41] <yokisuci> Stiffler: that should do it
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844 [05:26:48] <Stiffler> i am online again
845 [05:26:52] <Stiffler> on it*
846 [05:27:10] <yokisuci> =/
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849 [05:29:25] <awal1> Stiffler, that's you again with
stretch issues?
850 [05:29:29] <awal1> :D
851 [05:29:42] <AlexLikeRock> hahaha
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853 [05:29:49] <cheapie> Grr, the new maintainer for hexchat
decided to add some random crypto nonsense to the
"recommends".
854 [05:29:58] <AlexLikeRock> awal1, they are a frecuently
customer ?
855 [05:29:59] * cheapie uninstalls those packages
856 [05:30:00] <yokisuci> awall XD
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860 [05:30:45] <awal1> Stiffler: consider running stable (jessie)
and stretch/sid in a VM, until you get more familiar with it
861 [05:30:57] <wee> dont boot u jack ass
862 [05:31:01] <wee> its not politte
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867 [05:32:16] <wee> hmm
868 [05:32:34] <themill> wee: do you have a Debian user support
question we can help you with?
869 [05:32:38] <yokisuci> cheapie: I can't see any new
recocommended packages when checking the debian site and the hexchat
package. :S how anoying anyway. don't like when some packages
alot of extra recommended packages that u don't need at all.
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873 [05:32:55] <cheapie> yokisuci: Might just be in sid (and
maybe stretch) so far.
874 [05:33:02] <wee> some 1 just booted me
875 [05:33:19] <wee> i dont know wat that retard as problem with
876 [05:33:21] <yokisuci> cheapie: I checked booth sid and
stretch :/ or maybe it's just me that's just tiered ^^
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878 [05:34:03] <cheapie> yokisuci: Looks like it's only in
sid so far. "rec: hexchat-otr" is the part that I have a
problem with.
879 [05:34:27] <cheapie> Yes, I can manually choose to not
install it, but it's a rather dumb default.
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881 [05:35:04] <themill> wee: incorrect. Can I suggest you just
stick to Debian user support?
882 [05:35:14] <yokisuci> cheapie: Oh missed that one. Why is it?
:/ There's some plugin packages in the recommended packages
too.
883 [05:35:25] <wee> themill
884 [05:35:31] <wee> i just got booted
885 [05:35:36] <wee> from here
886 [05:35:37] <themill> wee: incorrect. Can I suggest you just
stick to Debian user support?
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889 [05:36:09] <cheapie> yokisuci: The plugins that were already
there were pretty pointless already.
890 [05:37:47] <cheapie> Out of the 6 (now 7) that are installed
by default, I use one.
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892 [05:39:18] <yokisuci> cheapie: ^^ I don't use hexchat at
all, but I prefer installing plugins on my own in most cases ^^
893 [05:39:55] <yokisuci> anyway, time 4 me to try to get some
sleep. nighty
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915 [05:57:32] <n4dir> mhhh, trying to look at :
replaced-url
916 [05:57:53] <n4dir> Forbidden You don't have permission
to access /releases/stable/installmanual on this server.
917 [05:57:53] <n4dir> Server unable to read htaccess file,
denying access to be safe
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919 [05:58:55] <missmbob> weird. works here
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922 [05:59:39] <n4dir> indeed weird. but as long it's only
me: no problem
923 [05:59:49] <AlexLikeRock> working fine hir
924 [05:59:53] <n4dir> i assume it would be a general problem
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926 [06:00:15] <missmbob> n4dir: there is #debian-replaced-url
927 [06:00:15] <AlexLikeRock> n4dir, what manual you need ?
928 [06:00:49] <AlexLikeRock> n4dir, this page are HTTPS
929 [06:00:57] <AlexLikeRock> check you DATE, time
930 [06:01:03] <n4dir> missmbob: i would, if it ws a general
problem.
931 [06:01:06] <AlexLikeRock> MM/DD/YYYY
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933 [06:01:23] <AlexLikeRock> HH:MM
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939 [06:02:16] <missmbob> that would be a different error
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942 [06:04:16] <n4dir> didn't run in that problem, and can
access all other sites from debian.org too. lol
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945 [06:05:28] <n4dir> nah, that was wrong. there are more i get
a forbid.
946 [06:06:25] <missmbob> n4dir: are you using tor? someone was
complaining about accessing the wiki via tor, but that was with only
certain exit nodes.
947 [06:06:35] <n4dir> no tor usage.
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950 [06:07:56] <n4dir> adblock, noscript, cookiemonster,
can't see how they should cause such a problem (enabled cookies
and scripts anyway, but sure enough it didn't help)
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952 [06:10:04] <themill> n4dir: it'd be helpful to know
which
replaced-url
953 [06:10:49] <n4dir> themill: "EU view"
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955 [06:11:38] <n4dir> well: lynx opens it, so it must be a
firefox setting (?)
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985 [06:15:10] <n4dir> started firefox with a new profile , opens
the page too. So i guess anything is fine, just a weird confguration
i did (not that i did much ... )
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1025 [06:16:04] <themill> n4dir: that's just weird...
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1058 [06:16:31] <n4dir> themill: it is. Sorry for the noise.
Without further testing i assumed it would be a general problem.
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1066 [06:17:12] <themill> n4dir: apparently it is a permissions
problem on one of the servers and DSA are working on it.
1067 [06:17:32] <themill> You probably just got a different mirror
with your new profile
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1070 [06:17:45] <n4dir> ah, so it really is a general problem ?
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1075 [06:18:16] <themill> "General" in the sense of a
real problem on one of the
replaced-url
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1082 [06:19:30] <n4dir> ok. thanks for clarification (on the
default profile it works too, after restarting, which clears the
cache)
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1309 [08:18:58] <jasonwhite> Hi, I have a question, hope some guru
could help me out :) Last time I used Debian was circa Debian 7.1.
At that time, I still need to follow :
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1351 [08:39:56] <rmrfchik> hi. after update, aptitude stuck in
"loading cache" forever
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1353 [08:39:59] <rmrfchik> any ideas?
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1471 [09:32:41] <jolt> full disk?
1472 [09:32:48] <jolt> apt-get clean and try again?
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1510 [09:51:36] <rafalcpp> That feeling when Ubuntu released
kernel with critical kernel fix, and Debian has not yet
1511 [09:52:02] <rafalcpp>
replaced-url
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1541 [10:03:24] <missmbob> rafalcpp: you realize it cant be
exploited in debian with debian's default settings, right?
there's no hurry
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1545 [10:04:58] <rafalcpp> missmbob: I use programs that do
CAP_NET_RAW
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1547 [10:05:12] <rafalcpp> it's somewhat popular in some VPNs
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1550 [10:07:09] <rafalcpp> it's somewhat popular in some VPNs
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1554 [10:08:54] <jelly> rafalcpp: do you also use user namespaces?
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1556 [10:09:18] <jelly> rafalcpp: any kind of containers?
1557 [10:09:31] <jelly> if not, do not panic
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1566 [10:12:34] <rafalcpp> jelly: one one server I use this in
namespace.
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1569 [10:13:24] <rafalcpp> I imagine then docker users would be
affected? That run VPNs/meshnet. Hah that's exactly what some
group of developers I work with is doing
1570 [10:13:31] <rafalcpp> and lxc
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1578 [10:19:11] <FinalX> hum, that the kernel on one distro is
affected does not mean it is on another. there's no new ubuntu
kernel for 16.04 either, which is also based on jessie.
1579 [10:19:41] <FinalX> and last time it was the other way
around. critical kernel update for debian and still nothing for
ubuntu because they weren't affected.
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1582 [10:21:14] <rafalcpp> FinalX: debian kernel it's
affected, as written in the link above (even though default settings
make
1583 [10:21:24] <rafalcpp> make it not likelly to exploit from
user on default settings)
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1585 [10:23:02] <FinalX> in that case, we'll just have to
wait
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1588 [10:23:41] <jelly> rafalcpp: yes, docker and lxc use user ns
to do their work. However unprivileged user ns have been known to
have design issues, there are probably dozens of issues like this
one just waiting to be found
1589 [10:23:42] <FinalX> although it looks like it was assigned in
october? that seems indeed a bit long
1590 [10:24:22] <jelly> rafalcpp: you should not rely on such
container solutions for security
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1592 [10:24:38] <jelly> maybe in 5 years from now
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1597 [10:27:05] <rafalcpp> jelly: well the containers are also for
testing to have separated net stack
1598 [10:27:15] <rafalcpp> and for gitian. and other things
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1604 [10:28:34] <rafalcpp> jelly: I mean, this is one thing user
namespace do not provide proper isolation, and another that they
allow to gain root. I hope it will be quite fastly fixed
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1610 [10:31:24] <jelly> don't hope. If you have to use them,
this isn't the first and won't be the last such issue. If
you don't have to use them, disable the kernel tunable and move
on with your life
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1634 [10:44:31] <alexdergrosse> hi... where to find debian 8 LTS
for powerpc?
1635 [10:45:09] <missmbob> alexdergrosse:
replaced-url
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1637 [10:46:41] <alexdergrosse> is this lts?
1638 [10:46:42] <missmbob> alexdergrosse: fyi LTS doesnt cover
powerpc
1639 [10:46:52] <alexdergrosse> ok
1640 [10:47:16] <missmbob> alexdergrosse:
replaced-url
1641 [10:48:05] <alexdergrosse> is it possible install debian 8.6
powerpc at server?
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1643 [10:48:39] <missmbob> yes. that's what the cdimage link
i gave you is for
1644 [10:49:11] <alexdergrosse> cool. thank you very match
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1670 [11:02:43] <debian350> Hello, I have .sh file and execute him
with command.sh. But, I want to save log of this files. If I run
command.sh > log.txt, I don't have errors. Can you help me ?
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1679 [11:04:33] <_Nox> Good morning beautiful people
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1681 [11:05:18] <flvzcsh50> Greetings. :-]
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1684 [11:05:44] <_Nox> ;-)
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1686 [11:05:50] <ChrisH> debian350: ./command > log.txt
2>&1
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1688 [11:06:30] <debian350> Thank you !
1689 [11:06:35] <flvzcsh50> wouldn't that just run it in
background without giving output..? (sry I'm newb, may be
wrong..)
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1692 [11:06:56] <fiveflowerzz> Hi! One day, when I was asking
about "nohup ..." someone was saying there's
something better, that allows to come back after disconnect
1693 [11:07:00] <fiveflowerzz> what is it?
1694 [11:07:01] <flvzcsh50> also, I thought it was two
">>" rather than one.. like "command.sh
>> log.txt" but guess i was wrong?
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1697 [11:07:40] <missmbob> flvzcsh50: >> is append (ie, if
the file already exists and you want to add to the end of it
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1699 [11:07:54] <flvzcsh50> would it not appear in some file among
ones at /var/log , ifnot how would a (custom made) script make calls
to get it logged into any of those files, if at all possible? (and
to have a custom error put there)
1700 [11:08:01] <missmbob> > just overwrites the file if it
already exists
1701 [11:08:08] <flvzcsh50> missmbob: ooh.. oh,okay.. whew, good
to know! thanks
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1705 [11:09:16] <missmbob> flvzcsh50: and no, random custom
scripts dont just show up in /var/log
1706 [11:09:43] <dcpc007> hi all, why is there no (or near no) doc
on sssd install/config for ldap client ?
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1710 [11:10:22] <dcpc007> i have very hrd time to try find real
advice on choosing between sssd vs nslcd+nscd for user auth
1711 [11:10:54] <fiveflowerzz> could it be "screen" ?
1712 [11:10:57] <missmbob> dcpc007: my default is go with
abrotman. he's not usually wrong
1713 [11:11:04] <ChrisH> flvzcsh50: for jobs running while you
disconnect, try screen or tmux
1714 [11:11:46] <missmbob> or just run those scripts via cronjob
1715 [11:11:47] <flvzcsh50> ChrisH: yeah thanks I already know
about and often use screen, I like it alot!:) Never heard of tmux..
hmh..interesting, may check that out too. Thnx!
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1717 [11:12:37] <dcpc007> yes, i'm serfching info o nslcd
this morning, because, it seems that nslcd don't do cache, and
it's better to add cache
1718 [11:12:45] <fiveflowerzz> if I use "screen", can I
logout from SSH
1719 [11:12:57] <fiveflowerzz> come again 2 hours later, and
reconnect to the screen, and it will still be running?
1720 [11:13:06] <missmbob> fiveflowerzz: you can detach, not log
out. the whole point of screen is to leave the session running.
1721 [11:13:17] <missmbob> fiveflowerzz: yes, you can come back
and reconnect
1722 [11:13:24] <teraflops> flvzcsh50:
replaced-url
1723 [11:14:01] <fiveflowerzz> missmbob: i mean: can i detach,
logout from the ssh (i'm connecting a distant server) , then
reconnect the distant server 2 hours later, and reconnect screen?
1724 [11:14:17] <missmbob> fiveflowerzz: yep. and whatever was
running in screen will still be there
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1732 [11:18:08] <fiveflowerzz> missmbob: waw that's really
great... I should have used than since years... instead of running
nohup ... &
1733 [11:18:17] <fiveflowerzz> *that
1734 [11:18:46] <flvzcsh50> teraflops: thanks, will check it!
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1737 [11:19:07] <missmbob> fiveflowerzz: i like using screenie.
it's a wrapper for screen. makes it easy to name sessions, etc,
so even if you have several it's easy to see which one you need
to reconnect to
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1739 [11:19:36] <fiveflowerzz> very cool
1740 [11:19:48] <fiveflowerzz> so i never have to "tail -f
nohup.out"
1741 [11:20:01] <fiveflowerzz> anymore... or tmux even better, or
nearly the smae?
1742 [11:20:16] <fiveflowerzz> *is tmux
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1745 [11:20:40] <missmbob> their main use is the same. tmux does
some tricky things with windows. i never cared much for it and stuck
with screen
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1749 [11:21:29] <fiveflowerzz> cool. with that it seems that I
could even avoid demonizing things. just start a new screen, run the
thing, detach, and that's it... no more deaemon needed?
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1751 [11:22:09] <missmbob> you could. not saying you should.
consider your options for what you need
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1753 [11:22:27] <ChrisH> fiveflowerzz: that does not sound like a
good idea. lean about writung systemd unit files
1754 [11:22:37] <fiveflowerzz> ChrisH: I already do
1755 [11:22:50] <fiveflowerzz> but for small things it seems now
that screen would be easier
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1763 [11:25:06] <teraflops> fiveflowerzz: most people does tmux
these days anyway try both answer read comparisons like
replaced-url
1764 [11:25:19] <teraflops> sorry for the ugly url...
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1767 [11:25:48] <teraflops> silly phone I cannot control it
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1771 [11:27:54] <fiveflowerzz> I'll read that, thanks!
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1795 [11:41:56] <dcpc007> is it really needed to add nscd with
nslcd to add a caching ?
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1797 [11:43:03] <dcpc007> for user logging i think there will not
be an heavy load, and appli like tomcat points directly on the
Windows AD for user login => only admin and dev logs on the
servers
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1836 [12:07:30] <QUESTION> people. WHERE and which type of link
can i use to download debian? i have had it with ubuntu and its
crashes, but i do not understand which of the MASSIVE amount of
links and type of debian i should install, any help
1837 [12:07:33] <QUESTION> ?
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1842 [12:08:16] <missmbob> QUESTION: amd64?
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1844 [12:08:30] <QUESTION> missmbob: yes
1845 [12:08:35] <missmbob> QUESTION:
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1846 [12:08:39] <TomTomTo1> clicking on "download
debian" in the top right corner on
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1848 [12:08:58] <QUESTION> missmbob: thank you
1849 [12:09:36] <QUESTION> thanks people
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1855 [12:11:25] <QUESTION> what is the difference between network
and full instllation?
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1858 [12:12:14] <TomTomTo1> the number of packages it has included
in case you don't have a working connection during
installation.
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1860 [12:12:18] <QUESTION> and can i just boot it from a USB to
start the instllation?
1861 [12:12:28] <QUESTION> TomTomTo1: hmm
1862 [12:12:38] <QUESTION> TomTomTo1: but the end result is the
same?
1863 [12:12:44] <missmbob> if you make the usb correctly. how do
you plan on copying the iso to the usb?
1864 [12:12:51] <TomTomTo1>
replaced-url
1865 [12:12:58] <TomTomTo1> QUESTION: yes
1866 [12:13:26] <QUESTION> missmbob: ubuntu has a program that
prepares a linux iso for usb booting
1867 [12:13:31] <missmbob> dont use it
1868 [12:13:37] <missmbob> read the link TomTomTo1 gave you
1869 [12:13:51] <missmbob> those stupid programs are known to
break debian's hybrid iso's
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1872 [12:15:03] <QUESTION> missmbob: you know i have never been
able to finish a debian instllation
1873 [12:15:12] <missmbob> QUESTION: that's probably why
1874 [12:15:26] <missmbob> QUESTION: use cp like the doc says
1875 [12:16:06] <QUESTION> missmbob: no i mean it is complicated,
i am used to the ease of ubuntu.
1876 [12:16:14] <QUESTION> i hope i understand it this time
1877 [12:17:21] <themill> You hit enter 11 times. It's not
complicated.
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1879 [12:18:14] <QUESTION> themill it asks for a server url at
some point, something to do with sudo and not getting sudo, i
don't remember, but i remember it asked for complicated things,
i am not an advanced user
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1884 [12:19:23] <TomTomTo1> it asks you for a proxy setting, which
you can skip if you don't use one and it asks you for a mirror,
which you can select from a list, ordered by country codes.
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1886 [12:19:30] <themill> As I said, you hit enter 11 times.
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1889 [12:20:00] <themill> (you might need a right arrow in there
once to confirm formatting the disk)
1890 [12:20:37] <QUESTION> themill: i will keep that in mind :-)
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1892 [12:20:41] <man_of> ok,now I go with that option
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1986 [12:55:04] <synbit> Is there a way to generate a memory dump
for a pid (apache or nginx or other) in order to see what values are
cached at any point in time? What tools should I be looking at?
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2030 [13:01:37] <hspcd> Running a Debian 8.5 laptop and every now
and then the display gets hosed. It's like looking at
watercolor art, where the colors are all wrong and text isn't
rendered sharply. Any ideas what could be causing this?
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2032 [13:02:20] <themill> LSD?
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2034 [13:03:16] <Ticho_> hardware overheating? some manufacturing
defect?
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2036 [13:03:27] <hspcd> Maybe it snagged some LSD while I was
sleeping...
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2041 [13:03:54] <hspcd> If it was a hardware issue I think this
would happen all the time.
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2054 [13:07:06] <iflema> synbit: hardcore... im thinking there is
probably a billion ways... Im also thinking if you can read the
dump... you can find the apps...
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2058 [13:09:37] <hspcd> Here is a screenshot to show you the
colors of my screen and how hosed up it is.
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2064 [13:16:49] <missmbob> that's hosed up? looks fine to me
2065 [13:17:29] <missmbob> looks like you might be using redshift
but that's about it
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2073 [13:21:03] <ws2k3> i have 6 nics in my system 2 onboard 4
external. how can i find out which eth is which device?
2074 [13:21:20] <missmbob> redshift makes sense since you say
sometimes it's "normal"
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2078 [13:22:02] <ws2k3> i checked my
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and it shows me 4 x igb
and 2 x e1000e what does this mean?
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2080 [13:24:29] <synbit> iflema: I have generated a dump using
gdb... Not sure how to read it now.
2081 [13:25:11] <ws2k3> synbit gdb path/to/the/binary
path/to/the/core
2082 [13:25:19] <jelly> ws2k3: the only 100% sure way is to bring
all interfaces up, then connect and disconnect them to a working
network equipment one at a time and not which link goes up and down
2083 [13:25:34] <jelly> note*
2084 [13:25:45] <ws2k3> jelly yeah i already tryed that and i
discovered that it does not much sense
2085 [13:25:59] <iflema> synbit: process memory is not exactly
static. What are you really trying to do? learn machine code?
2086 [13:25:59] <jelly> it won't necessarily make a lot of
sense, yes
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2088 [13:26:10] <ws2k3> cause onboard nic0 is eth0 onboard nic1 is
eth2 for example
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2090 [13:26:34] <ws2k3> jelly and this machine is going to be a
load balacer so i need to make sure i get this right
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2092 [13:26:39] <jelly> ws2k3: you can rename them via
70-persistent-net.rules and reboot if you want to
2093 [13:26:48] <bezaban> ws2k3: also labelmaker to the rescue!
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2095 [13:27:10] <ws2k3> bezaban yeah good point and i will but
then i first need to get the order right
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2099 [13:27:48] <synbit> iflema: I have an issue where I use nginx
with a proxy_pass $upstream_url. the problem is that $upstream_url
can and it does change randomly. I think the problem is solved like
so:
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2101 [13:28:20] <synbit> but I would like to see what is really
happening by generating a memory dump and then analysing it
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2103 [13:28:59] <ws2k3> jelly then what is the difference between
igb and e1000e ?
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2105 [13:29:32] <ws2k3> jelly cause in my 70-=persistent-net.rules
i see for example # PCI device 0x8086:0x1521 (igb) and # PCI device
0x8086:0x10d3 (e1000e)
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2107 [13:30:13] <vvuja> ws2k3, first of all igb and e1000e are two
different makers of the same bandwith type NIC (1 gigabit/s)
2108 [13:30:20] <vvuja> igb is Intel Gigabit
2109 [13:30:25] <vvuja> and e1000e is someone else
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2111 [13:30:44] <vvuja> also in your file you can see labels of
ethernet interfaces as they are now
2112 [13:30:49] <vvuja> and you can use them like that
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2115 [13:31:13] <missmbob> umm...e1000e is intel
2116 [13:31:15] <vvuja> if you don't need specific rule that
igb's need to be eth0, eth1 eth2 eth3
2117 [13:31:21] <vvuja> igb is also intel
2118 [13:31:23] <vvuja> I think
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2120 [13:31:37] <missmbob> yes it is
2121 [13:32:10] <vvuja> so if you want ws2k3 to use e1000e which
are onboard I can guess then see what is the label of them and do
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2123 [13:32:22] <vvuja> ifconfig ethX ip_address netmask up
2124 [13:32:28] <vvuja> then test it
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2126 [13:32:43] <jelly> ws2k3: pci-ids are irrelevant. You can map
MAC addresses to eth* names to your liking, and udev will rename
them at boot time
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2128 [13:33:06] <synbit> iflema: So generating a memory dump using
gdb and then using a tool like MAT (replaced-url
2129 [13:33:20] <afidegnum> hello, is it possible to create a
bootable disk into my /home folder? which to be use for VM ? here is
my current structure
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2131 [13:33:36] <vvuja> and write network file for bringing
interfaces at boot
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2133 [13:34:53] <vvuja> /etc/network/interfaces
2134 [13:35:06] <iflema> synbit: source code for nginx? Man page
even...
2135 [13:35:13] <vvuja> that file need to be written correctly so
you can bring interfaces at boot
2136 [13:35:41] <vvuja> if you don't need to change order of
eth naming leave it as it is just check in 70-persistant-net-rules
which are labels
2137 [13:35:45] <vvuja> and use them as such
2138 [13:35:55] <vvuja> test first with ifconfig and ethtool
2139 [13:36:07] <vvuja> then write /etc/network/interfaces
2140 [13:36:09] <vvuja> that is all to it
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2142 [13:37:15] <afidegnum> any insight ?
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2170 [13:51:22] <abrotman> dcpc007: you know they do different
things, right?
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2174 [13:52:08] <dcpc007> yes nslcd only manay user/group info
with ldap, and nscd provies cache for nss map
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2180 [13:52:56] <dcpc007> but i'm thinking as on serveur
login console there will be very few activity, maybe i'll
don't need a cache
2181 [13:53:04] <abrotman> dcpc007: in my environment (where we
use ldap for group stuff), we use nslcd and nscd
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2183 [13:53:33] <dcpc007> and cache can add some complexity or
maintenance (i remember how often i had to use the nscd -i hosts in
a precedent job :) )
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2189 [13:57:37] <dcpc007> ha, after many searches, i don't
know what is the maturity of sssd in debian (or other OS), but even
if there is full packages and tools on debian repo, there is still
no officiel doc (and near nothing) on how to install and configure
sssd for debian
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2194 [13:58:53] <dcpc007> anther precedent admin here let me a doc
on it's configuration tested for sssd on Centos 6 user stations
that works, seems simple and clear
2195 [13:59:39] <dcpc007> but if i don't find things
validated by debian on this sensible subject (and that i don't
master), i'll go for nslcd and see nscd maybe later
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2197 [13:59:47] <synbit> iflema: OK I think I get your point...
Basically as a first step I should try enabling debug logging. :)
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2202 [14:01:50] <dcpc007> abrotman: i start using this :
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2212 [14:05:20] <abrotman> looks like a good doc
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2227 [14:13:37] <julius> is great and all that someone took the
time to pack up tomcat8 for debian, but they fucked up the
installation. its not useable from eclipse anymore
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2231 [14:16:11] <julius> why not just unpack the tomcat install to
one dir...it just works
2232 [14:16:36] <themill> dpkg: tell julius about reportbug
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2256 [14:33:14] <ws2k3> is it possible to change driver from igb
to e1000e? for a nic?
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2268 [14:37:04] <jelly> ws2k3: in general no, you can't
change drivers like that
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2279 [14:41:22] <ws2k3> jelly cause in my other loadbalacer it
uses igb for onboard and e1000e for the pci-e nic
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2294 [14:48:07] <jelly> ws2k3: with the exact same hardware?
2295 [14:48:20] <jelly> and same OS release?
2296 [14:48:29] <ws2k3> jelly no only the same OS and same NIC
mobo is different
2297 [14:48:40] <jelly> well then
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2312 [14:56:50] <jomofcw> Hello !
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2314 [14:57:14] <jomofcw> A "simple" question : can I
empty, safely, the /var/cache directory, please ?
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2321 [14:59:03] <missmbob> jomofcw: no
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2325 [15:00:27] <themill> jomofcw: there shouldn't be
anything there that can't be regenerated but it might take a
lot of time/effort/bandwidth to do so.
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2334 [15:04:29] <abrotman> jomofcw: there are subdirectories in
there that can be safely deleted, but you sohuld probably ask if you
don't already knokw
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2336 [15:04:52] <jomofcw> themill missmbob thanks. In fact
I've got the /var/cache/apt/archives directory that represent
more than 1.5Go ...
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2338 [15:05:21] <themill> jomofcw: for that, you want apt-get
autoclean or apt-get clean
2339 [15:05:32] <jomofcw> yup just get it, i try ! Thanks.
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2341 [15:06:06] <missmbob> jomofcw: files are generally fine. you
get in trouble when you remove the directory structure
2342 [15:06:12] <jomofcw> Works well, thanks =).
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2369 [15:21:37] <MaxFrames> hello
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2372 [15:22:31] <MaxFrames> I have configured the dhcp daemon to
log on the local7 facility and I have configured the syslog daemon
to redirect the local7 facility to a separate file
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2375 [15:22:57] <MaxFrames> the line I've added to
/etc/rsyslog.conf is as follows:
2376 [15:23:26] <MaxFrames> local7.* /var/log/dhcpd.log
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2378 [15:23:54] <MaxFrames> this is working (the log file is
created and updated); now I need to _also_ send the same logs to an
external syslog server
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2380 [15:24:07] <MaxFrames> so I added a line just below the
previous one, as follows:
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2382 [15:24:25] <MaxFrames> local7.* @x.x.x.x:514
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2384 [15:24:44] <MaxFrames> where x.x.x.x is the syslog server
address of course
2385 [15:25:06] <MaxFrames> I am not receiving anything (even
though there have been a multitude of dhcp events)
2386 [15:25:28] <MaxFrames> if I replace the line as follows, I do
receive data, but of course not just dhcp, the whole lot:
2387 [15:25:36] <MaxFrames> *.* @x.x.x.x;514
2388 [15:25:41] <MaxFrames> *.* @x.x.x.x:514
2389 [15:25:46] <MaxFrames> sorry for mistyping
2390 [15:26:31] <MaxFrames> why is that? could it be that the
second redirect for local7 is ignored because local7 is already
redirected to a file?
2391 [15:26:35] <MaxFrames> any other ideas?
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2393 [15:28:12] <laerus> do ids in kv work with canvas
instructions aswell?
2394 [15:28:19] <petn-randall> MaxFrames: That shouldn't be
the case. I'm sure rsyslog works when forwarding and writing
logs together. There are several things I'd check:
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2396 [15:28:35] <laerus> oops wrong channel sorry
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2399 [15:29:54] <petn-randall> MaxFrames: 1) did you restart
rsyslog, and did it throw any errors doing so? I saw you wrote
"*.* @x.x.x.x;514", there's a semicolon instead of a
colon, for example. 2) I'd also double-check if packets leave
the rsyslog machine with tshark/tcpdump.
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2401 [15:30:34] <MaxFrames> 1) yes (and the ; was a mistyping,
it's actually :)
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2403 [15:30:48] <MaxFrames> no errors
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2409 [15:32:38] <neglesaks> hello there. any suggestions for a
process monitor other than System Monitor or top ?
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2414 [15:33:27] <mingdao> GKrellM
2415 [15:33:29] <MaxFrames> the line with which I've
configured isc-dhcp-server to log on local7 is in
/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf and as follows:
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2417 [15:34:00] <MaxFrames> log-facility local7;
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2419 [15:34:10] <MaxFrames> I hope it's all correct
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2427 [15:37:37] <MaxFrames> sorry, I found the problem and
it's on the syslog server's side
2428 [15:37:47] <mingdao> neglesaks: GKrellM
2429 [15:37:58] <MaxFrames> apparently the filter syntax is not
really boolean as they say it is
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2433 [15:38:38] <neglesaks> Looking into it mingdao, looks good.
thansk so much!
2434 [15:39:06] <neglesaks> very nice and oldschool in fact.
2435 [15:39:38] <zmitya> hi Guys. Today after a clamd db update
(by freshclam) clamd stopped working for some reason...
2436 [15:39:47] <zmitya> do you guys experienced same ?
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2440 [15:40:51] <petn-randall> MaxFrames: Which filters?
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2449 [15:44:53] <MaxFrames> petn-randall: server side filters to
only include certain logs
2450 [15:45:02] <MaxFrames> in my case, I just wanted DHCPACK
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2452 [15:45:39] <MaxFrames> the syslog server is not gnu-linux
2453 [15:45:49] <MaxFrames> (prtg)
2454 [15:45:52] <jhutchins> zmitya: You do realize that clamd
doesn't actually do anything except comply with silly secrurity
audits.
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2456 [15:48:02] <dcpc007> what is the difference between
libnss-ldap and libnss-ldapd (and the recommand linked libpam-ldap
or libpam-ldapd)
2457 [15:48:35] <zmitya> jhutchins: well, I did not know :)
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2460 [15:50:07] <abrotman> dcpc007: I'd suspect one is the
daemon, the other the client
2461 [15:50:37] <dcpc007> the 2nd is in conflict with the 1st
2462 [15:50:44] <dcpc007> then can't install both
2463 [15:51:13] <ero95> jhutchins: please explain?
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2465 [15:51:59] <dcpc007> the first aptitude show guive an url to
replaced-url
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2469 [15:52:34] <dcpc007> the second here :
replaced-url
2470 [15:52:56] <hsociety> Do somebody know how people call a
Password-Combination Finder?
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2472 [15:53:28] <hsociety> A tool that finds the right
password-combination without a wordlist or tool
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2474 [15:53:56] <MaxFrames> social engineering?
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2476 [15:54:48] <hsociety> a tool that just find the right
combination without doing anything
2477 [15:55:13] <MaxFrames> ah, I got it! mind reading!
2478 [15:55:16] <iflema> mind reader apps
2479 [15:55:22] <iflema> m
2480 [15:56:14] <hsociety> i mean a hacking tool,
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2484 [15:57:10] <jelly> a saw?
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2487 [15:58:19] <jelly> ,i john
2488 [15:58:20] <judd> Package john (admin, optional) in
jessie/amd64: active password cracking tool. Version: 1.8.0-2; Size:
194.9k; Installed: 448k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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2490 [15:59:08] <jomofcw> Is there a way to clean massively the
cache ?
2491 [16:00:14] <petn-randall> jomofcw: Which cache?
2492 [16:00:19] <jelly> dcpc007: libnss-ldap is older,
libnss-ldapd / nslcd is newer and solves some boot time or caching
issues, don't remember
2493 [16:00:19] <hsociety> without wordlist or not
2494 [16:00:44] <iflema> grub facilitates changing the combinator
2495 [16:00:52] <jomofcw> petn-randall all those that can exist on
the system... I think this is probably impossible :/.
2496 [16:00:59] <mingdao> neglesaks: GKrellM works better or worse
depending upon your DE or WM
2497 [16:01:12] <petn-randall> jomofcw: What for? your filesystem
cache makes your system go faster.
2498 [16:01:25] <mingdao> neglesaks: best for me on Fluxbox, with
GKrellM using an invisible theme and on the far right of the desktop
all by itself
2499 [16:01:35] <petn-randall> jomofcw: Try to tell us about your
problem, not about the solution you think will solve it.
2500 [16:01:37] <dcpc007> jelly: thx, i'm on course :)
2501 [16:01:58] <mingdao> neglesaks: these days I'm using
Gnome3 and haven't really set it up, preferring *more* desktop
space than my 23" screen gives me
2502 [16:02:21] <jomofcw> petn-randall to avoid useless cache to
remain.
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2510 [16:03:04] <petn-randall> jomofcw: Caches are seldomly
"useless", otherwise they wouldn't exist in the first
place.
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2512 [16:03:48] <petn-randall> jomofcw: What problem are you
seeing?
2513 [16:04:09] <hsociety> i am looking for a password-combination
cracking
2514 [16:04:29] <petn-randall> hsociety: Which OS are you running?
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2519 [16:09:40] <jomofcw> petn-randall I'm trying to get back
free space as possible. I'm talking about cache of app I
probably didn't use anymore.
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2521 [16:10:02] <petn-randall> jomofcw: Oh, so you need disk
space! You should have told us before.
2522 [16:10:12] <petn-randall> jomofcw: How much disk space is
your system currently using?
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2525 [16:10:28] <petn-randall> jomofcw: Many caches don't
have anything to do with disk space.
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2539 [16:14:21] <hsociety> Linux
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2541 [16:14:41] <petn-randall> hsociety: Are you using Kali?
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2543 [16:15:01] <jomofcw> petn-randall sorry, I probably explain
it bad :(. Here is the stats : /dev/sda1 73G 44G 26G 63% /
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2545 [16:15:16] <jomofcw> I already free a lot of space erasing
useless files
2546 [16:15:32] <jomofcw> I would like to get it
"optimum", so free all the space I can right now.
2547 [16:15:45] <petn-randall> jomofcw: Run 'ncdu' at
your filesystem root, and you'll be able to see what uses how
much.
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2553 [16:18:02] <le_pig> Never heard of ncdu before. Nice tool.
2554 [16:18:35] <kfc> because of the firewall I sit behind I
download testing ISOs about once a week, mount those and use them in
my sources.list. I'd like to install pssh which looks like
it's in main and part of the network section in the lists.
However it doesn't appear to be on the isos I download. What am
I missing?
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2557 [16:18:59] <abrotman> kfc: you can't use an apt-proxy?
2558 [16:19:07] <abrotman> or regular proxy
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2561 [16:21:07] <jomofcw> petn-randall thanks !
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2563 [16:21:28] <jomofcw> -bash: ncdu : commande introuvable
2564 [16:21:29] <jomofcw> :(
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2566 [16:21:37] <jomofcw> Any packet to install ?
2567 [16:22:10] <le_pig> jomofcw: apt-get install ncdu
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2571 [16:22:31] <kfc> abrotman: not familiar with using apt-proxy.
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2573 [16:23:01] <neglesaks> mingdao, apologies for my late
response. Im on Debian/Gnome3, it seems to work OK here. very
flexible. I would imaging its minimalistic layout goes well with
flux etc.
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2576 [16:23:57] <neglesaks> that also being that I have difficulty
aking sense of the memory cencept - top clearly communicates that my
mem has been gobbled up though the old system monitor does in no way
reflect that, only that the swapfiel is growing (which it does for
obvious reasons)
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2578 [16:24:42] <mingdao> neglesaks: if you have the time and
inclination, I'd like to see a screenshot
2579 [16:25:07] <zykotick9> !atemyram
2580 [16:25:07] <dpkg> "Linux ate my ram!" No, it
didn't. Read this:
replaced-url
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2583 [16:25:27] <neglesaks> ok, ok, ill read it :P
2584 [16:26:10] <mingdao> neglesaks: sometimes I run "free
&& sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
&& free" to drop caches
2585 [16:26:17] <abrotman> dpkg: tell kfc about apt-proxy
2586 [16:26:28] <abrotman> dpkg: hi
2587 [16:26:28] <dpkg> what's up, abrotman
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2589 [16:26:34] <neglesaks> wow, thats exactly what i've been
looking for for ages
2590 [16:26:57] <abrotman> kfc: if the bot didn't tell you
"/msg dpkg apt-proxy"
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2596 [16:28:25] <kfc> abrotman: it did, thanks
2597 [16:28:46] <abrotman> oh, stupid spam bots
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2601 [16:29:34] <neglesaks> yeah. much spam this season. not to be
jolly.
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2609 [16:30:57] <mingdao> neglesaks: this script
replaced-url
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2621 [16:32:59] <GivenToCode> Hi I use debian 8, am not a power
user, but I set up keyboard shortcuts to mute my speakers. Sometimes
it works right away, sometimes it works minutes later, sometimes it
works hours later...
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2627 [16:34:31] <neglesaks> thank you very much, mingdao !
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2630 [16:35:13] <mingdao> neglesaks: np, hope it's useful
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2678 [16:50:20] <Sari> Debian installation taking 9 hours
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2683 [16:51:38] <alexsco> why 9 hours?
2684 [16:51:45] <ArabicSoap> Slow net.
2685 [16:51:49] <mazert> netinstall with 28k modem ?
2686 [16:51:58] <ArabicSoap> 4g
2687 [16:52:05] <alexsco> :)
2688 [16:52:12] <ArabicSoap> The only one available in my location
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2690 [16:52:30] <mazert> hmm :p
2691 [16:52:38] <alexsco> you are installing on laptop or other ?
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2693 [16:52:51] <ArabicSoap> Laptop
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2695 [16:52:57] <ArabicSoap> Mac
2696 [16:53:35] <ArabicSoap> Why is debian installation so
complicated?
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2699 [16:53:48] <Dreaman> Sari phahhaha 1 haur my old laptop
2700 [16:53:56] <greycat> Because personal computer hardware is so
complicated.
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2702 [16:54:13] <alexsco> installing Debian is slowly than ubuntu
or mint, but it is very stable. I use just Debian. Is my favorite
Linux
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2704 [16:54:51] <ArabicSoap> I want to use Debian because of its
stability. But just can't get through the installation. Why not
make it easy?
2705 [16:54:53] <alexsco> Debian with Mate DE
2706 [16:54:59] <Dreaman> Sari net install or
2707 [16:55:05] <Dreaman> slow net
2708 [16:55:29] <petn-randall> ArabicSoap: It is easy, but
there's no magic we can help you with a slow internet
connection.
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2710 [16:55:52] <ArabicSoap> I have slow internet. And I am not
sure I installed it correctly. So after 9 hours it could still be
the wrong installation.
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2712 [16:56:19] <petn-randall> ArabicSoap: You can download the
installation ISOs and burn them or put them on a USB stick, so you
can use them several times for installation.
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2714 [16:56:46] <Dreaman> rufus and iso netinstall iso
2715 [16:56:50] <Dreaman> download
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2722 [16:58:00] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
2723 [16:58:00] <Dreaman> System: Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel:
4.9.0-6-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
2724 [16:58:00] <Dreaman> Desktop: Unity 7.5.0
2725 [16:58:00] <Dreaman> Distro: Ubuntu Zesty Zapus (development
branch)
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2727 [16:58:00] *** Dreaman was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please use
replaced-url
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2730 [16:58:22] <Dreaman> i am tester
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2732 [16:58:32] <Dreaman> new ubuntu
2733 [16:58:38] <abrotman> Dreaman: I ythink you want #ubuntu?
2734 [16:58:45] <Dreaman> my laptop is stretch debian
2735 [16:58:53] <greycat> Dreaman: Go the fuck away NOW.
2736 [16:59:12] <Dreaman> :)
2737 [16:59:13] <jhutchins> ArabicSoap: You can also order discs
from
replaced-url
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2739 [16:59:37] <ArabicSoap> I might just have to. Will just have
to handle the bugs. But at least I can have a working computer.
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2742 [17:00:17] <Dreaman> greycat how to usa wifi in stretch
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2744 [17:00:23] <Dreaman> lame
2745 [17:00:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o greycat
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2750 [17:00:55] <mazert> you have to install drivers fro non-free
branch
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2754 [17:01:25] <greycat> Ubuntu support is in #ubuntu. Stretch
support is on the OFTC network in #debian-next. Support for people
who blatantly LIE about their shit is in /logout.
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2757 [17:01:33] <aurigae1> hi debian
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2759 [17:01:49] <aurigae1> any way to install libboost 1.54 on
jessie?
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2762 [17:02:15] <aurigae1> or solve such dependency issue with
syms?
2763 [17:02:21] <greycat> First trick is to figure out the package
name, which it seems is not libboost.
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2768 [17:03:08] <mazert> aurigae1:
replaced-url
2769 [17:03:25] <greycat> ,v libboost-atomic1.54.0
2770 [17:03:26] <abrotman> that's for sid
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2772 [17:03:27] <judd> No package named
'libboost-atomic1.54.0' was found in amd64.
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2774 [17:03:36] <aurigae1> guessing its liboost-all-dev
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2780 [17:05:45] <aurigae1> brb
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2782 [17:05:58] <mazert> aurigae1: you try to install an external
package, or it is for dev puroposes ?
2783 [17:06:12] <greycat> mazert: what, can't you read his
mind?
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2785 [17:07:07] <mazert> greycat: he will tell me
2786 [17:07:11] <le_pig> lol
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2793 [17:11:07] <CrackerJack> greycat dint touch me lame
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2795 [17:11:16] <CrackerJack> eny more
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2798 [17:11:49] <CrackerJack> Client: HexChat 2.12.3 • OS:
Debian stretch/sid • CPU: AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology
MK-36 (800MHz) • Memory: Physical: 1,8 GiB Total (1,6 GiB Free)
Swap: 3,0 GiB Total (3,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 8,3 GB / 77,2 GB
(68,9 GB Free) • VGA: 10de:0244 @ 1022:1102 • Uptime: 3m
52s
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2800 [17:12:06] <greycat> You're allowed to run it.
You're just not going to get support for it here.
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2817 [17:17:05] <bamb> hi
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2819 [17:17:28] <bamb> if i want to install Oracle Java on debian,
is ppa:webupd8team/java a trustworthy source?
2820 [17:17:34] <petn-randall> !ppa
2821 [17:17:35] <bamb> ive never heard of them
2822 [17:17:35] <dpkg> [ppa] Personal Package Archive (see
replaced-url
2823 [17:17:37] <bamb> who are they?
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2825 [17:18:01] <Shadur> !why not use a ppa
2826 [17:18:01] <dpkg> PPAs (Ubuntu's Personal Package
Archives, see <PPA>) are not built against Debian releases,
they are built against Ubuntu releases. This makes using packages
from them on a Debian box highly unlikely to work out well. Ask me
about <ssb> <package recompile> <bobbitt>.
2827 [17:18:09] <petn-randall> bamb: PPA is only for Ubuntu,
it's better to use alternatives.
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2829 [17:18:24] <petn-randall> bamb: What is wrong with using
openjdk?
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2832 [17:18:48] <bamb> i prefer oracle since it has a larger
userbase and is more mature
2833 [17:19:01] <greycat> By that standard you want Windows.
2834 [17:19:15] <bamb> heh id never deploy my application on
windows
2835 [17:19:29] <bamb> fo server apps, i prefer linux
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2837 [17:19:31] <Shadur> Why not? It has a larger userbase and is
more mature.
2838 [17:19:32] <bamb> for*
2839 [17:19:53] <bamb> well linux is free, and used by more people
than windows
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2841 [17:20:04] <greycat> really?
2842 [17:20:12] <Shadur> Not really.
2843 [17:20:24] <bamb> yea it def is
2844 [17:20:24] <greycat> Well, the free part is true.
2845 [17:20:41] <bamb> theres more instances of linux running in
the world than windows
2846 [17:20:45] <bamb> look at android?
2847 [17:21:05] <greycat> Anyway, if the thing you want to install
is not packaged *for Debian*, just install it using the upstream
distributor's documentation.
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2849 [17:21:32] <Shadur> Anyway, got a train to catch. Short
version: PPAs are for Ubuntu, not Debian, and they're
significantly less quality-controlled, so use at own risk and
don't come here to complain when you wind up breaking stuff.
2850 [17:21:36] <Shadur> When, not if.
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2857 [17:26:04] <EgonSpengler> Debian is so unflexible compared to
Slackware and the *BSDs it blow fucking chunks
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2860 [17:26:17] <greycat> Then don't use it.
2861 [17:26:43] <LeandroLuiz> lol
2862 [17:26:58] <LeandroLuiz> rage quit
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2864 [17:28:11] <OerHeks> wait, flexible is good?
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2885 [17:38:37] <jelly> bamb: download .tar.gz from oracle and
create .deb binary packages using make-jpkg tool from java-package
package
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2887 [17:38:43] <jelly> !make-jpkg
2888 [17:38:44] <dpkg> java-package (formerly mpkg-j2se,
j2se-package) provides the make-jpkg utility for creating Debian
packages from manually downloaded <Java> distributions; Oracle
Java 6 (update >= 10) and Oracle Java 7 are currently supported.
java-package is available for Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later
systems in <contrib>.
replaced-url
2889 [17:39:01] <haba713> hi! i should install latest debian to pc
with pci express m.2 disk. how can i load module rtsx_pci during the
installation process? netinst image does not seem to have it but i
can copy module from here:
replaced-url
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2897 [17:41:40] <haba713> after copying modules directory of
linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64.deb to rootfs /lib/ the command
"modprobe rtsx_pci" says "not found".
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2910 [17:47:41] <jelly> haba713: did you copy it into the right
place? Doesn't d-i menu system allow to load .udeb with
whatever extra kernel modules you might need?
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2913 [17:48:05] <jelly>
/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/memstick/host/rtsx_pci_ms.ko
2914 [17:48:12] <jelly>
/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/mfd/rtsx_pci.ko
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2935 [17:55:07] <bamb> guys, i just installed debiuan in a VM
2936 [17:55:10] <bamb> its the latest version
2937 [17:55:27] <bamb> when i upt-get update, it updated with
jessie sources
2938 [17:55:39] <jelly> bamb: jessie is the latest, yes
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2942 [17:55:52] <bamb> then i try to install openssh-server, adn
it says it depends on libwrap0, but its not installable. what
givesd?
2943 [17:56:04] <jelly> !bat
2944 [17:56:04] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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2946 [17:56:39] <jelly> bamb: run "apt-get update"
first, then retry, then if it fails again provide all the relevant
info, as above ^^
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2948 [17:56:56] <bamb> i did update. doing upgrade now
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2954 [18:00:16] <haba713> jelly: i'm using text installer and
i'm not familiar with .udeb loading
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2960 [18:01:20] <haba713> what is the proper way to load modules
during install?
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2963 [18:02:26] <jelly> I VAGUELY remember there was a way to get
any extra module from the internets and load it via menus
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2965 [18:02:47] <jelly> probably only in expert mode
2966 [18:03:09] <haba713> i'll try that
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2972 [18:06:09] <bamb> should i upse stable or jessie in the
release part of the sources.list?
2973 [18:06:13] <greycat> jessie
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2986 [18:08:38] <jelly> bamb: verify your sources.list entry set
is complete, /msg dpkg jessie sources.list
2987 [18:08:54] <bamb> do i need a jessie-updates or
jessie/updates line?
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2989 [18:09:10] <bamb> i just have main and security right now
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2991 [18:09:33] <jelly> jessie/updates = security
2992 [18:10:07] <greycat> You *really want* the
security.debian.org line. The other updates line is quite optional.
2993 [18:10:10] <jelly> technically you don't quite need
jessie-updates I think, but it's on by default these days
2994 [18:10:26] <deepbluv> jelly: hi,you reffered me to a windows
version ponyprog
2995 [18:10:41] <jelly> deepbluv: I think I referred you to the
sources
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2997 [18:11:13] <ohemdevin> Do any of you know if the LTS 4.9
kernel will make its way into Debian jessie's backports?
2998 [18:11:16] <deepbluv> jelly: never mind.thanx anyway
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3000 [18:11:37] <greycat> ,kernels
3001 [18:11:39] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid:
4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.11-1); stretch: 4.8.0-1-686-pae (4.8.7-1);
jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.8-1~bpo8+1); jessie:
3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports:
3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy:
3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1)
3002 [18:11:48] <greycat> It's not even in experimental
yet....
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3005 [18:12:02] <jelly> ohemdevin: since 4.4, 4.5, 4.6, 4.7 and
4.8 did find their way...
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3008 [18:12:36] <jelly> ohemdevin: whatever is picked by kernel
team to be default for stretch will probably appear in jessie bpo
3009 [18:12:43] <bamb> so my file has "jessie main", and
"jessie/updates main"
3010 [18:12:55] <jelly> bamb: sorry, that's not "all the
info"
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3012 [18:13:08] <jelly> !basic apt troubleshooting
3013 [18:13:08] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
3014 [18:13:10] <jelly> bamb: ^
3015 [18:13:21] <jelly> see the CAPS there
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3017 [18:14:06] <jelly> if you can't pastebin text, try to
upload a screenshot somewhere (like picpaste or imgur)
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3023 [18:16:11] <jelly> I don't think 4.9 has been released
at all
3024 [18:16:32] <jelly> mainline: 4.9-rc8 2016-12-04
3025 [18:16:46] <CrackerJack> ikolov@debian-ivan:~$ inxi -F
3026 [18:16:46] <CrackerJack> System: Host: debian-ivan Kernel:
4.8.0-1-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit)
3027 [18:16:46] <CrackerJack> Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: Debian
GNU/Linux stretch/sid
3028 [18:16:56] <CrackerJack> :)
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3031 [18:17:15] <ohemdevin> Oh, I know... I just know that
there's a feature freeze coming up, so it'd be nice to
have the LTS kernel and Mesa 13 before that happens!
3032 [18:17:24] <ohemdevin> In jessie's backports
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3036 [18:17:49] <DammitJim> what tool can tell me how much
bandwidth is being used on my server on a per connection basis?
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3038 [18:20:34] <digdilem> DammitJim, iptraf is handy for that
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3041 [18:21:28] <DammitJim> does that come default with debian
jessie?
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3046 [18:22:18] <jelly> !install it
3047 [18:22:18] <dpkg> Your box does not come with every
application, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already.
If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't
there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone
suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that
it's available via apt-get or aptitude.
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3049 [18:22:28] <jelly> DammitJim: no
3050 [18:22:50] <haba713> jelly: 1. i can't find way to load
.udebs in expert mode. 2. i don't know how to create .udeb with
rtsx_pci.ko
3051 [18:22:56] <DammitJim> thanks
3052 [18:23:32] <bamb> does this source.list file look OK to you
guys?
3053 [18:23:33] <bamb>
replaced-url
3054 [18:23:34] <jelly> haba713: eh. Did you try manually
insmod-ing it using full path to the file?
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3057 [18:24:16] <haba713> "unknown symbol in module"
3058 [18:24:17] <jelly> > Your paste has triggered our
automatic SPAM detection filter.
3059 [18:24:46] <jelly> bamb: do try to use paste.debian.net next
time or really any other pastebin site just not the ad-laden
pastebin.com
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3062 [18:25:19] <jhutchins> bamb: That should be fine. Do you
actually need source code?
3063 [18:25:41] <jelly> haba713: that's ok but this channel
gets reports of "ftp.us.debian.org" being inconsistent
quite often
3064 [18:25:51] <jelly> bamb: that's ok but this channel gets
reports of "ftp.us.debian.org" being inconsistent quite
often
3065 [18:25:53] <bamb> jhutchins: no, i dont need source
3066 [18:26:15] <bamb> ok, so then ill keep sources.list as is
3067 [18:26:18] <bamb> thanks guys
3068 [18:26:39] <jelly> haba713: eh, might as well try installing
stretch instead :-)
3069 [18:26:54] <jelly> or ask d-i people how to make a custom
jessie d-i
3070 [18:27:03] <jelly> with that module
3071 [18:27:27] <jhutchins> bamb: You can comment out the src line
until you need it.
3072 [18:27:51] <haba713> jelly: ok
3073 [18:27:56] <jelly> haba713: they're on irc.oftc.net,
#debian-boot channel if you're really keen on building custom
d-i images
3074 [18:28:14] <haba713> ok, thanks for helping
3075 [18:29:27] <Devastator_> I'm trying to use gigolo to
connect to windows shares, but whatever I do, "Service
Type" named "Windows Share" doesn't appear,
I've installed gvfs-fuse, my user is added to fuse group.
I'm using lxde
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3088 [18:40:54] <jhutchins> Devastator_: Any samba packages
installed?
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3092 [18:42:48] <Devastator_> jhutchins I was missing
gvfs-backends
3093 [18:42:53] <Devastator_> thanks
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3097 [18:45:35] <afidegnum> hello, anyone familiar with Proxmox?
my guest VM is not having access to the internet,
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3105 [18:47:26] <ChrisH> !proxmox
3106 [18:47:26] <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is
a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a
virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not
supported in #debian. There's an unofficial
proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see
##replaced-url
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3144 [19:04:08] <spooky> anyone here? trying to figure out how to
install uget
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3148 [19:04:37] <greycat> It appears to be a package. apt-get
install uget
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3150 [19:04:55] <greycat> ,v uget
3151 [19:04:56] <judd> Package: uget on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.8.2-1;
jessie: 1.10.4-1; stretch: 2.0.8-1; sid: 2.0.8-1
3152 [19:05:18] <petn-randall> spooky: If you install
'command-not-found', you just have to try to run a command
on the CLI, and then you'll get a suggestion which package
needs installing for it to work.
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3154 [19:06:18] <spooky> greycat: when i type that in terminal it
says "could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13:
permission denied). are you root?
3155 [19:06:24] <spooky> btw: i am the admin
3156 [19:06:34] <spooky> sorry, new to linux and debian
3157 [19:07:13] <petn-randall> spooky: You might be the admin, but
are you root?
3158 [19:07:17] <petn-randall> spooky: 'whoami'
3159 [19:07:23] <mingdao> spooky: type "su -" then at
the password prompt type root's password
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3162 [19:07:48] <spooky> okay
3163 [19:07:51] <spooky> now i'm root
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3166 [19:08:20] <spooky> installing uget
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3169 [19:08:44] <spooky> thank you very much
3170 [19:09:40] <mrrtump> debian user and happy!
3171 [19:09:40] <mrrtump> :)
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3196 [19:20:18] <MikeDebian> i'm trying to use ssh -X host
firefox to run firefox from a remote machine. I can do it and
firefox opens in my local machine but the ssh connection breaks
right after firefox is launched in my local machine and when
browsing through that firefox session it's like i'm not
browsing from the remote machine because I can't access the
local network of that remote machine (for instance its router admin
page). what is wrong?
3197 [19:20:42] <MikeDebian> I've successfully done this with
another machine and it is working as I expected but with that one it
isn't
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3202 [19:23:13] <petn-randall> MikeDebian: What do you mean with
"and when browsing through that firefox session it's like
i'm not browsing from the remote machine"? Shouldn't
firefox be gone after the SSH connection breaks?
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3205 [19:24:16] <MikeDebian> the ssh connection breaks after
firefox is launched, not the opposite as it should be supposed
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3207 [19:25:00] <MikeDebian> this means firefox is launched in my
local machine but from there I have no connection with the remote
machine
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3210 [19:25:59] <MikeDebian> in other machine I have, when I do
that, the ssh connection keeps on while firefox is opened on my
local machine and when browsing it's like I was in the remote
machine browsing
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3214 [19:27:09] <petn-randall> MikeDebian: That's my point,
when the SSH connection breaks, there shouldn't be a local
firefox window anymore. Though I have to admit I haven't used
X11 forwarding in ages now.
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3218 [19:27:46] <petn-randall> MikeDebian: I'd check why SSH
breaks, though. You can try running it with -v (or more v's,
like -vvvvv) to find out what happens.
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3220 [19:28:05] <MikeDebian> but no, that doesn't happen.
firefox is launched and connection breaks
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3223 [19:28:38] <petn-randall> MikeDebian: But the SSH connection
breaks, or which one?
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3228 [19:29:09] <MikeDebian> I execute ssh -X host:machine firefox
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3230 [19:29:29] <MikeDebian> firefox is launched and the ssh
connection immediately breaks
3231 [19:29:39] <petn-randall> MikeDebian: You mean 'ssh -X
host:port firefox', right?
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3233 [19:30:18] <MikeDebian> host:port = host machine IP
3234 [19:30:29] <MikeDebian> default 22 port
3235 [19:30:40] <petn-randall> MikeDebian: Yes, so add -vvvv like
this: 'ssh -X -vvvv host firefox'
3236 [19:30:57] <petn-randall> MikeDebian: Or even just run
'ssh -X -vvvv host', then start firefox by hand.
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3238 [19:31:38] <MikeDebian> I will
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3245 [19:33:04] <MikeDebian> it shows a bunch of lines
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3254 [19:35:01] <MikeDebian> debug2: channel 2: is dead
3255 [19:35:01] <MikeDebian> debug2: channel 2: garbage collecting
3256 [19:35:01] <MikeDebian> debug1: channel 2: free: x11,
nchannels 2
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3259 [19:35:21] <MikeDebian> this may explain something but not
sure how to dig from here
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3262 [19:36:24] <MikeDebian> on the other machine it says things
like:
3263 [19:36:25] <MikeDebian> debug2: channel 2: window 2046076
sent adjust 51076
3264 [19:36:25] <MikeDebian> debug2: channel 2: window 2043324
sent adjust 53828
3265 [19:36:25] <MikeDebian> debug2: channel 2: window 2031616
sent adjust 65536
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use
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3271 [19:36:50] <MikeDebian> so in that other machine works and
data flows between the 2
3272 [19:36:59] <Shadow_7> Not sure if it helps, but X tends to be
passed "-nolisten tcp" by default. Which breaks some
things like Xdmx (and probably ssh -X)
3273 [19:37:00] <MikeDebian> but with this 1st remote machine data
is not flowing
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3277 [19:37:46] <MikeDebian> Shadow_7, do I need to change some
config no X?
3278 [19:38:05] <MikeDebian> no that remote machine I installed
xorg by apt-get install xorg
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3281 [19:38:24] <Shadow_7> Depends on the display manager or if X
is started with startx
3282 [19:38:26] <MikeDebian> and then made sure X11Forwarding was
set to yes on /etc/ssh/sshd_config
3283 [19:39:00] <MikeDebian> I have no gnome or kde installed
there
3284 [19:39:02] <MikeDebian> is that the use?
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3293 [19:42:08] <Shadow_7> COLUMNS=300 ps -FlAw | grep -i xinit
3294 [19:42:41] <Shadow_7> There's gdm, kdm, lightdm,
slimdm?, and so many others... I just use startx myself
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3312 [19:46:40] <MikeDebian> sorry, I meant "is that the
issue"?
3313 [19:47:04] <MikeDebian> not having and GUI installed...?
3314 [19:47:10] <MikeDebian> any*
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3322 [19:48:43] <Shadow_7> the -X for ssh is "X"
forwarding, implies a gui
3323 [19:48:50] <Shadow_7> (doesn't mean a gui login)
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3325 [19:49:13] <zhemor> hey guys, I'm trying to install
Metasploit but it gives me an error that i do not understand... The
error comes up when I type: msfconsole ---the this is the error:
Your bundle is locked to activesupport (4.2.7.1), but that version
could not be found in any of the st. You'll need to update your
bundle to a different version of activesupport (4.2.7.1) that
hasn't be
3326 [19:49:15] <zhemor> Run `bundle install` to install missing
gems.
3327 [19:49:17] <zhemor> zhemor@debian:~$ bundle install
3328 [19:49:18] <TomTomTosch> which he obviously has if he is able
to start firefox. you don't need a DE, if that's what you
mean.
3329 [19:49:19] <zhemor> Could not locate Gemfile or .bundle/
directory
3330 [19:49:21] <zhemor> Your bundle is locked to activesupport
(4.2.7.1), but that version could not be found in any of the st.
You'll need to update your bundle to a different version of
activesupport (4.2.7.1) that hasn't be
3331 [19:49:23] <zhemor> Run `bundle install` to install missing
gems.
3332 [19:49:25] <zhemor> zhemor@debian:~$ bundle install
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3337 [19:50:36] <Shadow_7> As I recall a gentoo install where
grabbing the gui browser, and a window manager, didn't also
grab X.
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3340 [19:51:36] <greycat> I think that's also the case in
Debian.
3341 [19:51:50] <greycat> X server can be installed independently
of WMs and so on.
3342 [19:52:34] <Shadow_7> but the reverse is less likely
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3344 [19:52:58] <Shadow_7> aka ... apt-get install icewm ...
likely grabs X
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3349 [19:53:53] <greycat> No, I don't believe it does.
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3351 [19:54:23] <greycat> It depends on libx11-6 and so on, but
not on an X server.
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3355 [19:57:07] <Shadow_7> maybe not directly... but mesa-utils
eventually grabs libgl1-mesa-dri which grabs xserver-xorg-core
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3361 [19:59:29] <TomTomTosch> he said he did install xorg on his
remote machine.
3362 [19:59:43] <Shadow_7> oddly the jogl stuff doesn't grab
the freeglut stuff
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3366 [20:02:24] <mrrtump> anyone madman enough to run testing in
prod?
3367 [20:02:26] <mrrtump> :)
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3375 [20:02:35] <mrrtump> bonus if you run swi prolog webserver
3376 [20:02:45] <xff> hi. Apache vhost can't access
documentroot with privileges o-rwx. Page returns 403. This is my
vhost conf:
replaced-url
3377 [20:02:50] <Shadow_7> most that do probably run desktops with
that, not servers
3378 [20:02:51] <missmbob> anything in production without security
support is stupid. so no.
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3388 [20:06:34] <n4dir> guess some people do it:
replaced-url
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3390 [20:06:56] <n4dir> ah,well, production. duh
3391 [20:07:16] <Shadow_7> Last time I did it was for glibc >
2.13 for a game
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3402 [20:09:00] <xff> oh, I forgot. Directory can't have
owner/group
replaced-url
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3409 [20:11:45] <Kiril> hello
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3411 [20:11:59] <ero95> hi Kiril
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3415 [20:13:31] <debby> hi
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3417 [20:13:46] <debby> So for letting logrotate use a complete
folder, one would pass a folder instead just a single file to it?,
right?
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3419 [20:14:22] <Kiril> are you aware is it available a rbldnsd
how-to (install and configure) using local dns server (bind,
powerdns) or the current one from provider?
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3433 [20:21:16] <xff> sorry for trolling. Solve: chown alfa:replaced-url
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3452 [20:29:04] <MikeDebian> Shadow_7, I installed gnome-core but
still doesn't work
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3461 [20:33:18] <greycat> Make sure you install xorg too.
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3478 [20:43:00] <MikeDebian> greycat, yes xorg is installed
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3491 [20:50:32] <jhutchins> !doesn't work
3492 [20:50:32] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague
statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it
procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for
change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it
isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without
needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error
message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco>
and <errors>.
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3494 [20:51:43] <tram0004> !smart questions
3495 [20:51:43] <dpkg> Go here to find out how to ask intelligent
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3496 [20:51:43] <jhutchins> MikeDebian: Actually, you don't
need a full xorg installation to forward the displays of graphical
programs. Forwarding a whole desktop environment requires either VNC
or RDP.
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3503 [20:53:12] <jhutchins> MikeDebian: What I usually do is
install xclock and whatever dependencies it pulls, then use xclock
to test forwarding.
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3512 [21:00:29] <MikeDebian> jhutchins, xclock does work...
3513 [21:00:29] <MikeDebian> but firefox doesn't work as
expected
3514 [21:00:47] <missmbob> what's expected? that it just
fucking sucks ass? it's supposed to
3515 [21:01:11] <missmbob> running a browser with x forwarding
isn't wise
3516 [21:01:30] <greycat> Agreed.
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3519 [21:01:52] <greycat> Browsers are horrible and fragile and
quirky enough that they barely work on the LOCAL hardware.
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3525 [21:03:36] <jhutchins> MikeDebian: Yeah, I've seen some
strange behaviors with Firefox, I tried to run a speed test remotely
and it didn't work.
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3527 [21:04:07] <jhutchins> MikeDebian: I'm afraid I limit my
remote browsing to lynx. Are you trying to set up a relay for
privacy reasons?
3528 [21:04:23] <MikeDebian> missmbob, wise or not it depends on
your specific needs. it's up to each one to decide that part.
regarding to "as expected" I mean the browser launches
like if it was on my local machine and the data flow stops
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3530 [21:05:04] <MikeDebian> so, from that point it's like
just like I'm browsing from my local machine and not from my
remote machine
3531 [21:05:04] <missmbob> MikeDebian: sure. for things like that
you can set up ssh relay or proxy or vpn...many things. x forwarding
isn't the solution
3532 [21:05:14] <TomTomTosch> alternatively you can run ssh -D
<someport> and set your local firefox to use that proxy
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3534 [21:05:50] <MikeDebian> this remote machine is 300km away
from me
3535 [21:06:01] <MikeDebian> and I needed to access the local
network router to open a port
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3537 [21:06:02] <missmbob> doesnt matter. my proxy is in singapore
and i'm in chicago
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3541 [21:06:17] <MikeDebian> once the router webpage is not friend
of lynx or similar
3542 [21:06:20] <debby> hi
3543 [21:06:23] <MikeDebian> i can't login to it and open the
ports
3544 [21:06:31] <MikeDebian> that's why I was trying ssh X
forwarding
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3546 [21:06:34] <debby> Is it possible to use a whole folder for
config for logrotate? :)
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3548 [21:06:53] <jhutchins> MikeDebian: Why do you need to relay
in the first place?
3549 [21:06:56] <missmbob> MikeDebian: well i'm sorry. x
forwarding just wont work for what you want.
3550 [21:06:56] <MikeDebian> setting up a vpn is not also not
possible once I can't open any ports on the router which can
only be accessed from the local network
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3553 [21:07:46] <MikeDebian> missmbob, on other machine I tested
(with is next to me) I'm browsing just like if I was on that
machine and I can test that by verifying the local IP that the
browser is using
3554 [21:08:00] <MikeDebian> which is next to me*
3555 [21:08:23] <MikeDebian> a quick and simple example
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3559 [21:08:48] <MikeDebian> the remote machine sitting next to me
has an apache server
3560 [21:08:56] <MikeDebian> when I ssh -X into that remote
machine
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3562 [21:09:03] <MikeDebian> and when accessing 127.0.0.1
3563 [21:09:10] <MikeDebian> I view the contents of that remote
machine
3564 [21:09:21] <MikeDebian> not the contents of my local machine
which doesnt even have an apache
3565 [21:09:29] <greycat> Is this your scenario: "I'm
sitting at desktop box D. I want to use D's web browser to
reach the config page of router R, but R is on a different network
and can't be reached directly. I have access to server S on the
same network as R." ?
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3568 [21:10:07] <MikeDebian> yes, that's the case
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3570 [21:10:27] <MikeDebian> but with a difference
3571 [21:10:44] <MikeDebian> I want to use server S web browser to
reach R router
3572 [21:10:45] <greycat> (1) Set up an ssh SOCKS tunnel from D to
S: ssh -N -D 9999 me@R. (2) Set Firefox to use the SOCKS proxy at
localhost:9999.
3573 [21:10:56] <greycat> Delete stupid self-imposed requirement.
3574 [21:11:02] <missmbob> yes. that's the way to do it.
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3576 [21:11:21] <greycat> err, I meant me@S not me@R
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3578 [21:11:38] <MikeDebian> let me try, tks
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3584 [21:13:40] <MikeDebian> that's great guys
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3586 [21:13:44] <MikeDebian> it's working ;)
3587 [21:13:48] <MikeDebian> always learning something new
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3592 [21:15:24] <jhutchins> greycat: Great job of figuring out
what it was he was trying to do given the minimal info.
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3594 [21:15:46] <greycat> Fortunately the goal was relatively
sane.
3595 [21:17:05] <MikeDebian> i'm not that crazy guys lol
i've been in linux scene 15years ago for a few years and
I'm now just coming back to it
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3597 [21:17:30] <greycat> You might not be, but other people are.
3598 [21:17:41] <greycat> We get some truly mind-shattering
questions.
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3600 [21:18:21] <MikeDebian> yes I can imagine
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3623 [21:28:34] <n_np> aloha
3624 [21:28:48] <n_np> i installed openstack-toaster, after apache
and that rabbit thingy and mysql
3625 [21:28:52] <n_np> now im getting this Invalid service catalog
service: compute
3626 [21:28:54] <n_np> whats that about?
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3629 [21:30:30] <jhutchins> n_np: No idea what "that rabbit
thingy" might be, but have you tried pasting the error message
into google?
3630 [21:30:39] <jhutchins> !openstack
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3636 [21:30:55] <n_np> yeh
3637 [21:31:00] <n_np> rabbitmq-server
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3641 [21:32:47] <n_np> i would like to rerun the keystone
configuration script
3642 [21:32:49] <n_np> how can i do that?
3643 [21:32:54] <n_np> dpkg-reconfigure keystone wont work
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3645 [21:33:16] <jhutchins> n_np: dpkg-reconfigure usually expects
a package name.
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3650 [21:34:18] <jhutchins> n_np: You might try #openstack. (There
are a LOT of openstack-* channels)
3651 [21:34:59] <n_np> they dont seem to be helping
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3654 [21:35:09] <n_np> well this is from the openstack-toaster
install package
3655 [21:35:28] <greycat> ,v openstack-toaster
3656 [21:35:29] <judd> Package: openstack-toaster on amd64 --
jessie: 0.10; jessie-backports: 0.14~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.14; sid:
0.14
3657 [21:36:07] <n_np> i just want to run its install scripts
again, maybe that works?
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3659 [21:36:15] <greycat> ,info openstack-toaster
3660 [21:36:16] <judd> Package openstack-toaster (net, extra) in
jessie/amd64: Metapackage to install all of Openstack services at
once. Version: 0.10; Size: 2.7k; Installed: 26k; Homepage:
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3667 [21:36:46] <greycat> You probably want dpkg-reconfigure
something, but you'll have to figure out which specific package
to reconfigure.
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3669 [21:37:20] <n_np> oops
3670 [21:37:22] <n_np> thanks yes
3671 [21:37:23] <n_np> ill try that
3672 [21:37:25] <n_np> one sec.
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3675 [21:39:21] <n_np> hmmmm
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3679 [21:41:25] <jhutchins> n_np: Again, try just pasting the
error into google and looking through some of the results.
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3682 [21:42:05] <n_np> i did that
3683 [21:42:06] <n_np> all day.
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3686 [21:44:53] <Gravious> Hi, I'm wondering what the best
way to go about adding python support to an existing package is?
3687 [21:45:31] <Gravious> It's a combined C/python lib in a
single repo. And I don't know how to get debhelper to do the
correct thing for both
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3698 [21:49:17] <namoamitabuddha> Will Debian stretch wait for
Linux kernel 4.10?
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3705 [21:50:24] <missmbob> namoamitabuddha: that's kind of up
in the air right now. debian wanted to use 4.10 because that was
going to be LTS kernel. now it *might* be 4.9.
3706 [21:50:52] <missmbob> namoamitabuddha: here's the iffy
4.9 might be info
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3720 [21:57:33] <Gravious> oh
3721 [21:57:39] <Gravious> i think i have found a way
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3735 [22:04:51] <spooky> has anyone here used uget? anytime i
paste a link to download a file i only get the url downloaded.
anyone know why?
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3753 [22:13:26] <unicron> has anyone successfully got TrustedGRUB
and tpm-luks to work recently?
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3758 [22:18:21] <zykotick9> new personal rule... if the project
(like TrustedGRUB) is hosted on sourceforge.net - don't
bother... ;)
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3764 [22:19:44] <unicron> i tried to use this one and it
didn't work either
replaced-url
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3769 [22:21:34] <zykotick9> unicron: the fact your issue is about
"SecureBoot" and TPM, makes my eyes roll so hard it
actually hurts... best of luck (in whatever your doin')
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3781 [22:25:16] <unicron> thanks
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3783 [22:25:55] <missmbob> zykotick9: that's a life rule for
everyone.
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3785 [22:26:30] <jhutchins> spooky: A lot of download links are
just scripts or links to an auto-download page. You probably need a
link that ends with the actual filename.
3786 [22:26:31] <missmbob> regardless of their adding malware to
packages scandal
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3791 [22:28:26] <teraflops> missmbob: after the last issue they
promised to behave :P
3792 [22:28:54] <unicron> zykotick9: how would you better protect
a hard drive that you need to leave in an untrusted environment and
you don't want to type a passphrase at boot?
3793 [22:29:00] <Gravious> hrm, maybe i should just make the
setup.py install the shared library...
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3795 [22:29:15] <missmbob> teraflops: hrm :P
3796 [22:29:18] <OS-24605> !ralph
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3798 [22:29:45] <zykotick9> unicron: i type one lvm+luks password
one every boot. what you want... i've got nothing!
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3800 [22:29:57] <zykotick9> s/one every/on every/
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3803 [22:30:58] <missmbob> you *can* do full disk encryption.
it's not easy and mostly unnecessary...but you can
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3805 [22:31:05] <OS-24605> !ralph
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3811 [22:31:13] <missmbob> OS-24605: what's your malfunction?
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3814 [22:31:44] <zykotick9> missmbob: i've done some funny
things with FDE... but no password/remote <- that i can't
even fathom
3815 [22:31:50] <OS-24605> I thought if I typed
"!<machine>" the bot gave a tip back
3816 [22:31:52] <unicron> this might be an option
replaced-url
3817 [22:32:01] <unicron> but i'd rather use TPM if possible
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3819 [22:32:09] <missmbob> OS-24605: note you can /msg the bot
3820 [22:32:21] <jhutchins> !bot
3821 [22:32:22] <dpkg> I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a
finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot
(that you should not abuse).
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3824 [22:32:42] <OS-24605> oh, ok, apologies, my 2nd time in here.
First time was following the Alpha guide
3825 [22:32:42] <birch> Hey all, gotta put out this fire for my
mom on her System76 laptop. Got problems after a dist-upgrade from
Wheezy to Jessie. Wifi shows a connection and ip for the wifi but
not getting out to the internet, ie can't fetch from Debian
servers or web in FF. Also having Window tearing and artifact
problems. This is Jessie 64bit and here's my hardware
replaced-url
3826 [22:33:11] <greycat> If you just want to play with the bot,
please use /msg
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3828 [22:33:34] <jhutchins> OS-24605:
replaced-url
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3830 [22:33:47] <OS-24605> thanks
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3834 [22:34:53] <jhutchins> birch: Is the system getting an IP? Is
it gettting DNS settings? Can it ping the router? Can it ping
8.8.8.8?
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3849 [22:39:19] <birch___> hm, the wifi seems to be working for
now but the graphics are still messed up
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3855 [22:40:38] <nillerz> Hello everybody
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3857 [22:41:05] <Guest86543> o/
3858 [22:41:16] <Guest86543> Does anyone know how to extract data
from .xip file?
3859 [22:41:29] <birch___> jhutchins, can you please help me
troubleshoot my graphics driver?
3860 [22:41:33] <Guest86543> (using debian jessie)
3861 [22:41:41] <little_tommy> ls
3862 [22:41:53] <Gravious> .
3863 [22:41:54] <Gravious> ..
3864 [22:41:59] <jhutchins> birch___: What chipset? What symptoms?
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3866 [22:42:06] <missmbob> Guest86543: do you mean zip?
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3868 [22:42:27] <birch___> jhutchins, 80860126 Yes Intel
Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
Controller i915 v2.6.38-
3869 [22:42:28] <Guest86543> missmbob: no, xip file :-)
3870 [22:42:35] <Guest86543> according to stackoverflow
3871 [22:42:42] <greycat> birch___: lspci -nn | grep VGA
3872 [22:42:42] <Guest86543> it may be related to apple
3873 [22:42:55] <Guest86543> apple way to sign a zip file
3874 [22:43:04] <birch___> greycat, jhutchins 00:02.0 VGA
compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core
Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0126] (rev 09)
3875 [22:43:04] <greycat> Though I suspect 8086:0126 *might* be
your PCI ID.
3876 [22:43:15] <Guest86543> but for my file, I don't care
about the signature, I just need to extract the data
3877 [22:43:17] <greycat> ,pciid 8086:0126
3878 [22:43:18] <judd> [8086:0126] is '2nd Generation Core
Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller' from
'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules
'ata_generic', 'i915', 'snd-hda-intel'
in jessie. See also
replaced-url
3879 [22:43:28] <birch___> having screen tearing and artifacts ...
like that old dog balloon game on windows
3880 [22:43:36] <toruvinn> Guest86543, i'm assuming you tried
just unzipping it?
3881 [22:43:53] <Guest86543> toruvinn: I did
3882 [22:44:07] <greycat> birch___: you could try the
xserver-xorg-video-intel from jessie-backports, just on general
principle. I'm not aware of any specific issues with this
chipset.
3883 [22:44:08] <birch___> running xfce
3884 [22:44:12] <nillerz> I have a weird question if anyone is
interested. I have an SD card. The SD card has a video file on it.
It's the only file on the card other than the DCIM folder
it's in. I plug it into my camera, my camera sees the file and
can play it back. I plug it into my PC, I can mount the drive like
normal, and I can see the folder that the file should be in, but
it's not there.
3885 [22:44:14] <boon> I'm getting an error, while building a
program with rust, /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl
3886 [22:44:14] <Guest86543> I tried to open it with Xarchiver as
well
3887 [22:44:19] <nillerz> I've run photorec and it
didn't find the file.
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3890 [22:44:42] <boon> Also having the same error with -lncursesw
and -lcrypto
3891 [22:44:49] <missmbob> boon: try apt-get install libssl-dev
3892 [22:45:01] <greycat> boon: install each of the -dev packages
for those. Find their names with apt-cache search --names-only
3893 [22:45:05] <boon> I did a dist-upgrade the other day, and the
was a source of many problems
3894 [22:45:07] <Guest86543> toruvinn: missmbob: according to
stackoverflow, I may have to use 'xar -xf'
3895 [22:45:32] <boon> I get this: libssl-dev : Depends:
zlib1g-dev but it is not going to be installed
3896 [22:45:33] <greycat> boon: if you are on testing or unstable,
you're in the wrong place.
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3898 [22:46:02] <Guest86543> but I did not find to what package
this command could be belong
3899 [22:46:19] <greycat> Guest86543: you can search by filename
on packages.debian.org
3900 [22:46:35] <missmbob> Guest86543: i told you one. another is
libncurses5-dev
3901 [22:46:51] <birch___> greycat, jhutchins
replaced-url
3902 [22:47:23] <nillerz> Also, apparently I can't navigate
to this file in the cli, but I can see it's location in thunar
3903 [22:47:28] <nillerz> truly strange, truly obnoxious
3904 [22:47:32] <birch___> going to reboot brb
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3907 [22:47:52] <nillerz> Anyone ever have a problem like this
with an SD card?
3908 [22:48:06] <nillerz> sudo thunar
3909 [22:48:43] <missmbob> one should never sudo thunar
3910 [22:49:07] <nillerz> irc: first to complain, last to help,
every time.,
3911 [22:49:08] <Guest86543> greycat: no result, is it possible
the "xar" command is only available on OS X?
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3913 [22:49:25] <missmbob> if you cant navigate with cli it means
you messed its permissions up but doing sudo thunar and other sudo
nonsense
3914 [22:49:28] <Guest86543> missmbob: you want me to install
libncurses5-dev ?
3915 [22:49:36] <greycat> How would I know? I've never heard
of "xar" or ".xip".
3916 [22:49:37] <missmbob> Guest86543: i dont. the system does.
3917 [22:49:54] <missmbob> Guest86543: and the other one i told
you
3918 [22:50:16] <greycat> Did you try searching
google/bing/whatever for "extract .xip"?
3919 [22:50:23] <jhutchins> Guest86543: It seems odd that
something useful in Linux would be available in an Apple-specific
format.
3920 [22:50:40] <nillerz> well, ls -ltrh says that my non-root
account is the owner of the folder
3921 [22:50:42] <jhutchins> Guest86543: There is a package called
unarchiver that will reportedly extract xar.
3922 [22:50:45] <jhutchins> ,v unarchiver
3923 [22:50:46] <judd> No package named 'unarchiver' was
found in amd64.
3924 [22:50:48] <nillerz> and it has read/write permissions on
everything inside
3925 [22:50:50] <Guest86543> I'll try to install the libs
3926 [22:50:53] <jhutchins> Guest86543: Not packaged for debian
yet.
3927 [22:51:02] <Guest86543> And I find it very odd too
3928 [22:51:08] <jhutchins> Guest86543: You may end up making a
mess of your system.
3929 [22:51:11] <nillerz> but there's a file on here that my
camera can see but my machine can't, even with photorec.
3930 [22:51:14] <Guest86543> jhutchins: damn
3931 [22:51:29] <jhutchins> Guest86543: What is the file supposed
to be?
3932 [22:51:30] <nillerz> Although, when I first plugged in the SD
card, it read the file no problem until it ate itself and the file
randomly disappeared.
3933 [22:51:50] <Guest86543> jhutchins: I have actually no idea
3934 [22:52:13] <Gravious> oh, so you just add --with python3
3935 [22:52:19] <Gravious> i thought it would be more complicted
>.>
3936 [22:52:28] <Guest86543> jhutchins: it's a VM from
Vulnhub
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3939 [22:53:03] <jhutchins> Guest86543: In that case it's
probably formatted for Parallels and mean to run on an OSX host.
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3941 [22:53:20] <Guest86543> jhutchins: I mean it comes from a VM
(from Vulnhub). The location of the file lead to think that this is
important for the challenge
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3944 [22:53:46] <Guest86543> jhutchins: it is definitively the
worst case :-(
3945 [22:54:10] <birch___> greycat, jhutchins the video problems
were fixed by switching from xfce to gnome3, which is fine with me,
but the wifi problems persist
3946 [22:54:26] <missmbob> birch___: fyi dont use xchat. it hasnt
been developed in a few years and thus has security bugs that makes
it unsafe.
3947 [22:54:39] <jhutchins> Guest86543: The chances that the
content will be useful on a non-OSX machine are pretty small.
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3949 [22:54:56] <birch___> greycat, jhutchins the wifi has an IP
and MAC but cannot ping 8.8.8.8 or traceroute google.com, advice?
3950 [22:54:59] <jhutchins> birch___: You never gave us any of the
details.
3951 [22:55:03] <birch___> missmbob, what do you recommend?
3952 [22:55:13] <nillerz> exit
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3954 [22:55:20] <missmbob> birch___: i use irssi. if you really
want that kind of xchat-like gui there's hexchat
3955 [22:55:48] <boon> does this suggest I might have done an
dist-upgrade and picked up dependencies from my debian testing?
replaced-url
3956 [22:56:00] <missmbob> boon: this isn't the testing
support channel
3957 [22:56:16] <birch___> jhutchins, my wifi is in my paste here
it is again
replaced-url
3958 [22:56:21] <missmbob> !tell boon about debian-next
3959 [22:56:30] <jhutchins> missmbob: It's the Debian support
channel.
3960 [22:56:44] <missmbob> jhutchins: you're right. not
testing.
3961 [22:56:45] <birch___> missmbob, I use hexchat on windows and
it's okay but I just like xchat
3962 [22:56:58] <jhutchins> missmbob: Yes, testing. Yes, sid.
3963 [22:57:04] <missmbob> birch___: your choice. so long as
you're aware it's not smart
3964 [22:57:13] <jhutchins> missmbob: Our goal is to help people,
not kick them off the channel.
3965 [22:57:37] <missmbob> jhutchins: i'm not kicking them
off of anything. i'm in #debian-next and willing to help.
let's just follow channel policy
3966 [22:57:47] <Guest86543> jhutchins: the challenge was created
by the Defcon staff, I don't think (at least I hope) we do not
need to have an OS X to solveit :-(
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3969 [22:58:15] <Guest86543> jhutchins: in any case, thank you for
your time!
3970 [22:58:18] <birch___> ooo a Defcon challenge? I'd be
interested myself if I didn't have my mom's laptop to fix
3971 [22:58:32] <jhutchins> ,v libtinfo5
3972 [22:58:33] <judd> Package: libtinfo5 on amd64 -- wheezy:
5.9-10; jessie: 5.9+20140913-1+b1; stretch: 6.0+20160917-1; sid:
6.0+20161126-1
3973 [22:58:44] <Guest86543> birch___: did you try to turn it off
and on again?
3974 [22:58:55] <birch___> haha yes
3975 [22:59:01] <Guest86543> birch___: it's broken dude, give
up and join me on the challenge!
3976 [22:59:15] <Guest86543> :p
3977 [22:59:24] <jhutchins> boon: Yes, that does suggest a broken
partial upgrade to stretch.
3978 [22:59:34] <jhutchins> boon: WHat did you intend to do?
3979 [23:00:21] <RikuKawai> I'm trying to install linux 4.7
from jessie-backports but I'm having dependency issues. it
wants firmware-linux-free and irqbalance, which I can add to the apt
install command, but it also depends on linux-base 4.3 or higher and
the newest available is 3.5
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3981 [23:00:45] <jhutchins> birch___: What did you try to do? How
did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened
instead?
3982 [23:00:53] <missmbob> RikuKawai: linux-base in
jessie-backports is 4.3
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3984 [23:01:06] <jhutchins> birch___: You have to give us useful
details, not just spam the whole sysinfo at us.
3985 [23:01:06] <TomTomTosch> RikuKawai: what's the command
you used?
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3988 [23:01:34] <birch___> My wifi is broken after a dist-upgrade
from Wheezy to Jessie both 64bit. I followed this
replaced-url
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3990 [23:01:49] <jhutchins> RikuKawai: Sounds like you might not
have the right things in your sources.list
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3992 [23:01:55] <boon> jhutchins: I was attempting to fix some
other error, can't recall what it was at the time.
3993 [23:02:06] <birch___> jhutchins, do you just want this?
10ec8176 Yes Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n
WiFi Adapter rtl8192ce
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3995 [23:02:27] <RikuKawai> TomTomTosch: apt install
linux-image-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64-unsigned firmware-linux-free
irqbalance
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4000 [23:02:37] <missmbob> RikuKawai: use -t jessie-backports
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4002 [23:02:53] <jhutchins> birch___: Try resetting your hotspot.
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4004 [23:03:13] <jhutchins> birch___: It sounds like it might not
be getting a gateway. You can check route -n
4005 [23:03:16] <RikuKawai> missmbob: that worked thanks
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4007 [23:03:23] <boon> jhutchins: need invite to debian-next?
4008 [23:03:32] <missmbob> boon: not if you're on the right
network (OFTC)
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4010 [23:04:12] <birch___> jhutchins,
replaced-url
4011 [23:04:14] <boon> roger
4012 [23:04:15] <RikuKawai> jhutchins: I selected jessie-backports
using the installer so I don't think the blame is on me if
it's configured wrong :P
4013 [23:04:22] <jhutchins> missmbob: You don't think
attempting to revert a partial upgrade to stable is on-topic here?
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4015 [23:04:51] <missmbob> jhutchins: i'm not going to argue
with you for the millionth time about channel policy. you dont
understand. that's okay.
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4030 [23:14:50] <LordSama> hey
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4033 [23:15:47] <ohemdevin> Hiya.
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4051 [23:27:14] <acresearch> hello people
4052 [23:27:21] <Gravious> hi!
4053 [23:27:31] <acresearch> WHY??? is the debian installartion so
complicated?
4054 [23:27:50] <acresearch> 10+ times i try to install it, 10+
times i fail
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4057 [23:28:48] <acresearch> why not make it simple?
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4061 [23:30:23] <TomTomTosch> if you want to complain, you are in
the wrong place. if you want help, you need to be more specific.
4062 [23:30:58] <acresearch> TomTomTosch: what is a DHCP server
network?
4063 [23:31:07] <acresearch> what should i put in?
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4070 [23:33:46] <TomTomTosch> at what step in the installation are
you? what image did you use?
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4074 [23:35:15] <acresearch> TomTomTosch: i cancelled the
installation and re-installed ubuntu so i can use my laptop and talk
here, i think it is before asking for root password, which is my
next question.
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4076 [23:35:38] <acresearch> TomTomTosch: before all of this. i
have the network installation image
4077 [23:36:14] <acresearch> this does not work for me i need the
full instllation image, but there are TOO many options in the
website i am lost, everytime i choose an option i get more options
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4086 [23:39:17] <TomTomTosch> the dhcp server is responsible for
network configuration, like assigning ip addresses dynamically.
usually your router does that. the installer should figure that out
automatically, if you have a working connection.
4087 [23:39:42] <TomTomTosch> is that a laptop or a desktop pc?
4088 [23:39:57] <TomTomTosch> are you trying to connect through
wifi?
4089 [23:41:53] <acresearch> TomTomTosch: laptop, a mac, and the
wifi is propriety so debian will not install the firware. + my
internet is very slow, takes 9 hours to install debian (and since
the installation is difficult for me) i will need to install it
several times until i know which configuration works for me. so i
need to full image, without network installation
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4092 [23:42:36] <TomTomTosch> !firmware image
4093 [23:42:36] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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4096 [23:42:56] <jim> is CVE-2016-8655 considered a lower
priority? and/or... is the fix considered harmful or limiting in any
way?
4097 [23:42:56] <TomTomTosch> this works most of the time. not for
all chipsets, though.
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4099 [23:43:19] <acresearch> hmmm ok i will get them
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4108 [23:48:06] <boon> acresearch: I installed debian jessie on my
macbook pro, had to download the broadcom firmware, it was a bit of
a hassle, but it worked, also, best to use a wired connection in the
beginning
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4111 [23:49:05] <acresearch> boon: thanks
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4119 [23:53:20] <missmbob> jim yes it's low priority. it
doesn't affect debian's default config or the vast
majority of users
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