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1 [00:00:17] <wsky> so it's either turned off in bios or
the nic does not support it or the address wasn't specified
proper;y
2 [00:00:19] <gyuma1etyr> how to monitor the eth0 ?
3 [00:00:31] <gyuma1etyr> see which packets arrive to eth0?
4 [00:00:34] <wsky> i think tcpdump would catch it
5 [00:00:47] <gyuma1etyr> tcpdump eth0 ?
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7 [00:01:03] <wsky> tcpdump -i eth0 | grep *something(
8 [00:02:04] <gyuma1etyr> wow so many packets arriving from
many IPs!
9 [00:02:06] <gyuma1etyr> scary!
10 [00:02:30] <wsky> that's why you should grep some out
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14 [00:03:24] <gyuma1etyr> yep, i'll try this
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17 [00:04:06] <Csubi> hey guys
18 [00:04:14] <Csubi> I need a bit of help with osmc and cron
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23 [00:04:54] <Csubi> my actual problem is that it is not
working at all - I am not even sure it is installed
24 [00:05:26] <Csubi> I am a windows person, so my linux
knowlede is pretty limited
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27 [00:06:01] <Csubi> what I am trying to do is a daily reboot
of my raspberry pi
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38 [00:13:49] <BazookaTooth> Csubi: #archlinux-arm
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44 [00:18:03] <brokencycle> Hi! I am trying to remotely support
someone to install buster on their PC, but at this point, everytime
they boot, they do not even get a Grub prompt,
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46 [00:18:24] <brokencycle> just a black screen with a blinking
cursor. Having said that, the machine has already a Debian
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48 [00:18:48] <brokencycle> installation, but this is broken in
major ways, so the attempt is to reinstall this machine. But
49 [00:19:10] <brokencycle> one of the breakages is that it has
no network whatsoever. Now what...
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51 [00:21:50] <wgr> brokencycly: i'd bet his media
installer is broken
52 [00:23:05] <whislock> brokencycle: The degree to which people
will support that scenario is probably limited, as you don't
have access to the system in question.
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67 [00:31:17] <Tom-_> okay, someone's reported a bug report
for the 403ing web pages
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71 [00:35:01] <brokencycle> whislock: yes... I have had them
already try Alt-F1, but no luck so far. Now I have asked them
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73 [00:35:27] <brokencycle> to re-do the grub entries in the
ISO, which resides on a USB stick.
74 [00:35:48] <brokencycle> But I can only see the success of
that tomorrow. :|
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86 [00:41:47] <brokencycle> If you have any other suggestions, I
am all ears. But I would also like to know how
87 [00:42:09] <brokencycle> in this day, a Debian install image
(both netinst and the DVD-1) can fail to boot on a dated PC.
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98 [00:49:31] <nkz> Hey, I am trying to reinstall mysql/mariadb.
Because it didn't work and I reinstalled packages god knows how
many times now I need to purge everything. Running apt-get purge
mariadb* tells me it will remove bunch of stuff like xfce-session
and xfce-settings. This doesn't look safe to me? I was planning
to update and dist-upgrade right after purge.
99 [00:49:31] <nkz> What should I do?
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101 [00:51:16] <jhutchins> nkz: Clean install.
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129 [01:25:42] <crestfallen> $ cat gnome-version.xml gives me a
dubious output: <?xml version="1.0"?>
<gnome-version> <platform>3</platform>
<minor>30</minor> <micro>2</micro>
<distributor>Debian</distributor>
<!--<date></date>--></gnome-version>
130 [01:25:55] <crestfallen> did I inadvertently remove gnome?
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137 [01:28:55] <crestfallen> I removed gnome inadvertently
yesterday. I looked like it installed today, but that output looks
weird. there's no date for one..
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139 [01:29:08] <crestfallen> It looked like*
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156 [01:39:04] <old_norse> grr, why does debian.org block VPN
access. Such a pain
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169 [01:50:18] <tomreyn> old_norse: works fine from tor, so
it's not a generic thing
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173 [01:50:47] <old_norse> tomreyn, harder to block tor than a
normal vpn provided by one of the big providers
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176 [01:50:58] <old_norse> various services publish all of the
ranges used by the big providers
177 [01:51:08] <Akuw> i have a directory called /images/01
/images/02 and so on
178 [01:51:17] <tomreyn> various services publish all of the
ranges used by tor nodes
179 [01:51:40] <Akuw> but i need to delete all files saved before
01:00 PM
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181 [01:52:16] <old_norse> tomreyn, you don't really have
ranges of tor nodes though
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185 [01:52:28] <old_norse> since they're just (for the most
part) random people hosting exit nodes
186 [01:53:05] <tomreyn> old_norse: that's correct, i just
wanted to make sure it's obvious how the situation is basically
the same.
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214 [02:16:06] <karlpinc> Akuw: You can use find with -daystart
and one of the other time options. Pipe the result to "xargs
rm". (You could use find's -exec, but that's sorta
clunky.)
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225 [02:31:14] <Akuw> i am using find /home/avn_scop/image/ -name
*.jpg -daystart -mmin +564 -exec ls -l '{}' \; | more
226 [02:31:42] <Akuw> sorry find /home/all/image/ -name *.jpg
-daystart -mmin +564 -exec ls -l '{}' \; | more
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229 [02:32:17] <Akuw> but not geeting only 12:00 to 12:59 files
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232 [02:33:21] <Akuw> i got some files of 13:48
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236 [02:37:46] <dvs> Akuw, why is it 564 instead of 780?
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240 [02:38:49] <Akuw> dvs: but 780 is giving files from time
after 12
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244 [02:39:10] <Akuw> time in that computer is 22:38:56
245 [02:39:25] <Akuw> files to be deletes 12:00 to 12:59
246 [02:39:38] <Akuw> i mean, all files before 01:00
247 [02:40:15] <dvs> Oh, so you don't really mean 1:00pm?
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250 [02:41:40] <klo2rtt> hi
251 [02:41:50] <klo2rtt> emacs user here?
252 [02:42:04] <dvs> !ask
253 [02:42:04] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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255 [02:42:46] <akko> butt
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257 [02:43:38] <akko> homer are you drunk
258 [02:44:09] <Akuw> can i specidy hours?
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261 [02:48:10] <Akuw> dvs: that files i want to delete were
created yesterday
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263 [02:51:14] <dvs> Akuw, if you're interested in creation
time then why aren't you using cmin instead of mmin?
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266 [02:51:27] <Akuw> i trying
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274 [02:57:17] <klo2rtt> In Emacs when I write a command like C-x
but I decided cancel it use C-g, minibuffer print "C-x C-g is
no defined". How to cancel comands that start with C-c or C-x
in Emacs?
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285 [03:07:57] <dvs> klo2rtt, Emacs prints that error but it puts
the focus back into the main buffer (at least for me it does)
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290 [03:12:37] <klo2rtt> @dvs that's right, but that's
no a elegant form to cancel the order
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297 [03:16:00] <karlpinc> klo2rtt: You could take it up in
#emacs, although they will probably tell you to file an enhancement
request. In short, C-g does cancel C-x and C-c, it just does not
report that cancelation in a particularly friendly way. #emacs might
have insight as to why this is.
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300 [03:17:11] <karlpinc> klo2rtt: (FYI. In debian you will find
the emacs docs in the non-free part of the repo, in the
emacs*-common-non-dfsg package.)
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302 [03:18:10] <klo2rtt> karlpinc Thanks for all, you're
right: "C-g does cancel C-x and C-c, it just does not report
that cancelation in a particularly friendly way"
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309 [03:25:46] <klo2rtt> karlpinc maybe I will have acept that
behavior from emacs
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311 [03:28:05] <klo2rtt> Why freenode report this message when I
try to connect '#emacs' "Cannot join channel (+r) -
you need to be identified with services"
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315 [03:31:04] <whislock> klo2rtt: Because you're not
identified with services. See also 'nickserv.'
replaced-url
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319 [03:32:39] <klo2rtt> thanks debian community, you're
awesome!
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323 [03:39:33] <crestfallen> hi in debian 10 I installed
hibernate on gnome. how to show the button with shutdown button?
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329 [03:45:31] <streak> chan topic is out of date. also, hi :)
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496 [07:15:03] <airstorm> hey, I was wondering are there any
position-dependent files in the root file system? Like if I wanted
to copy a filesystem from one device to another, can I just create a
new ext4 filesystem on that device and copy all files over?
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502 [07:21:14] <wsky> airstorm: you could boot a live system,
bootstrap the os by copying it to a new filesystem on another
device. install the bootloader, reconfigure fstab and it should fire
up
503 [07:21:28] <wsky> just remember to preserve file permisions
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508 [07:23:12] <Kats99> foo=[a-z]* so i know * this means a
wildcard but why do you need one when all the alphabets are already
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536 [07:49:32] <wsky> airstorm: i used to dd the whole disk as
well
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538 [07:50:02] <wsky> but that's not always an option
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540 [07:51:27] <airstorm> I'm moving the fs into a LUKS
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541 [07:51:43] <wsky> then rsync
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755 [10:40:02] <jelly> airstorm: if the destination is larger you
can resize2fs alter
756 [10:40:10] <jelly> later*
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758 [10:41:48] <jelly> airstorm: or if you do a file based copy
you have to remember all the important options for rsync, -aHSsAxX
or so
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821 [11:13:40] <jer0me> hey there, I'm investigating a
"battery drain on suspend" issue on a laptop that's
been following stable for a few years. Everything looks OK for now
(suspends "deep" to S3) but still drains ~2%/h (flat over
the weekend).
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826 [11:17:36] <jer0me> For now, I use "hybrid-sleep"
suspend method to mitigate the eventual power cycle issue of a flat
battery. I welcome any fresh idea on the matter :)
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830 [11:19:24] <no_gravi1y> I wonder why I get a more stable
connection to wifi access points with a cheap wifi-usb stick then
with my internal wifi. Any ideas?
831 [11:20:29] <chomwitt> why dpkg -l adds the :arch prefix in
some package names and not in others?
832 [11:22:03] <jer0me> no_gravi1y: intel/ralink has always been
better than broadcom for me, even if broadcom comes with the most
expensive laptop :(
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834 [11:22:52] <no_gravi1y> jer0me: The internal one is Intel.
835 [11:23:01] <no_gravi1y> The external one .. I dunno.
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860 [11:46:55] <uso> has the date format for the locale
en_US.UTF-8 changed in buster and is that change intentional?
861 [11:47:02] <uso> stretch$ LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 date: Mon Nov 18
11:46:24 CET 2019
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863 [11:47:06] <uso> buster $ LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 date: Mon 18 Nov
2019 11:46:25 AM CET
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872 [11:53:46] <finn0> Running `notify-send "test"
"This is a test"` command don't pop-up any
notification message. I remember, when I don't mention any
**urgency level**, it'll assume as urgency as **normal** and a
notification message pop-up for 2-3 seconds.
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883 [12:00:19] <finn0> Then, I tried same command by setting
urgency level to **normal** (`notify-send -u normal "Test"
"This is a test."`). Same thing happens as with running
command without mentioning urgency level (i.e. notification is
present in notification panel but pop-up don't appear).
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897 [12:06:51] <finn0> I'm sure pop-up should appear. So,
this is either a bug or **notify-send** developer have done some
major changes. Can anybody confirm this behavior? I'm using
GNOME desktop environment (and **libnotify** as notification
daemon).
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912 [12:18:35] <old_norse> Is there a default pin priority for
apt?
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919 [12:22:17] <brokencycle> no_gravity: Maybe the antenna is
better with the external stick?
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934 [12:30:59] <format_c> When I try to install enigmail I get a
dependency warning I don't understand:
935 [12:31:03] <format_c> The following packages have unmet
dependencies:
936 [12:31:05] <format_c> thunderbird : Breaks: enigmail (<
2:2.1.2~) but 2:2.0.12+ds1-1~deb10u1 is to be installed
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938 [12:32:03] <format_c> enigmail version 2.0.12 is in buster
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942 [12:35:39] <ws2k3> would it be possible to make a symlink to
2 destination files?
943 [12:35:58] <colo-work> no
944 [12:36:22] <darxmurf> ws2k3: read your question again :D
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947 [12:36:37] <format_c> Seems an old bug resurrected from
grave:
replaced-url
948 [12:36:39] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
949 [12:36:51] <Habbie> ah, this is because of thunderbird ESR?
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951 [12:36:57] <format_c> Same situation with just newer version
952 [12:36:58] <ws2k3> darxmurf: i did. i have a tool running
which logs to a file. but i would like to have 2 copies of that
logfile
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955 [12:37:25] <format_c> Habbie: I have just thunderbird
installed
956 [12:38:33] <format_c> It worked before thunderbird version
1.68 has been released from security
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972 [12:46:46] <jeweet_> Client: HexChat 2.14.2 • OS:
ArchLinux • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz
(800MHz) • Memory: 7,4 GiB Total (5,4 GiB Free)
• Storage: 11,5 GB / 258,4 GB (246,9 GB Free)
• VGA: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 620 @ Intel Corporation
Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers
• Uptime: 1h 51m 24s
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979 [12:48:48] <annadane> btw i use arch
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988 [12:51:15] <ratrace> annadane: heresy! Also, ignore the fact
I'm typing this from my gentoo workstation :)
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991 [12:52:58] <format_c> Found a bug that was discussing the
issue for the current version numbers, however thunderbird still
being in unstable. Seems to be a race condition as the new
thunderbird version was released via security but the new enigmail
version not yet.
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1092 [14:06:29] <dka> installer postgresql client sur debian
buster ? (and just the client)
1093 [14:07:08] <whislock> dka: postgresql-client?
1094 [14:07:12] <dka> yes
1095 [14:07:16] <dka> just the client
1096 [14:07:18] <dka> I dont need a database
1097 [14:07:22] <dka> I need to connect to a database
1098 [14:07:29] <whislock> That was the name of the package.
1099 [14:07:32] <whislock> postgresql-client
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1103 [14:10:09] <dka> Ok I have installed it I want to connect to
jdbc:postgresql://pgsql-test:5432 with user test and password test
from command line
1104 [14:10:11] <dka> how can I do?
1105 [14:10:25] <dka> bash: pgsql: command not found
1106 [14:11:04] <whislock> Because that's the wrong command.
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1108 [14:11:36] <whislock> dka:
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1141 [14:41:23] <tgunr> Another postgres question. I was getting
ready to install postgres and ran psfind postgres and discovered a
process 22612 running /usr/lib/postgresql/9.4/bin/postgres BUT
/usr/lib/postgresql DOES NOT EXIST! WTF is going on here?
1142 [14:42:28] <tgunr> apt-file does not find any reference to
postgres either
1143 [14:42:30] <ratrace> tgunr: you somehow removed the package
without stopping the existing process first? or is it in a
container?
1144 [14:43:09] <tgunr> I stopped all containers, but maybe I had
it running a long time ago, question is , how did it startup?
1145 [14:43:32] <tgunr> its running under nologin user
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1147 [14:44:58] <ratrace> only you can answer that. when you
introduce containers, all bets are off. they could be running
anything, anywhere (inside their chroots), it's a mess beyond
any comprehension or control.
1148 [14:45:12] <ratrace> QED
1149 [14:45:57] <tgunr> so i am finding, I am stoping all
hypervisor
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1156 [14:49:27] <tgunr> well that wont work the process is owned
by init(19947)
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1160 [14:53:35] <tgunr> ok, looking at the entree tree it looks
like it belonged to a container
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1213 [15:20:27] <r3m1> I have an /etc/network/interfaces with a
gateway for eth0 and a gateway for eth1
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1215 [15:20:47] <r3m1> so I think for this reason, service
networking status returns fail
1216 [15:21:44] <r3m1> for some reasons (usage in external
scripts), the definition of the two gateways are useful
1217 [15:22:11] <old_norse> Is it a bad idea to downgrade from
testing to stable?
1218 [15:22:29] <r3m1> but what are the consequences of the
service network failure ? Would it be possible to make it tolerant,
as it used to be ?
1219 [15:22:40] <greycat> Downgrading is not supported. If you can
make it work, well, congrats. But the only supported way is to
reinstall.
1220 [15:23:07] <annadane> luckily, backing up and reinstalling is
easy
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1250 [15:41:11] <lowin> Hello. Does debian dvds 1 through 3 cover
the whole software repository?
1251 [15:41:36] <Haohmaru> how much capacity does a DVD have?
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1253 [15:41:47] <lowin> Is there a way I can grab a copy of the
full repository?
1254 [15:41:49] <greycat> DVDs are around 4.7 GB
1255 [15:41:55] <Haohmaru> then i doubt it
1256 [15:42:11] <Haohmaru> debian has tonz of packages
1257 [15:42:20] <lowin> I remember there used to be around 8 9 dvd
images that covered everything
1258 [15:42:29] <lowin> but now only 3 are listed
1259 [15:43:23] <hellekin> Hello, I have installed a Debian Buster
without systemd from debootstrap. It mostly works fine except for a
few issues that prevent some applications running (e.g., Firefox and
Chrome crash). I'd like to know what is the best way to
document and report these issues, and whether there are plans to fix
the undue dependencies on systemd. I remember that the prospect of
choosing systemd as PID1 was not supposed
1260 [15:43:25] <hellekin> to become a burden when not using it.
So I suppose these issues should be fixed.
1261 [15:43:31] <lowin> Any other way I can grab a copy of repos?
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1263 [15:44:45] <greycat> File bug reports on the packages that
are affected.
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1266 [15:46:14] <brenlae> so i just installed firmware-atheros for
my wifi card in my laptop - it says it's using ath9k - anyway
after updating my signal strength went from about 72% to about 64%,
it is still just as fast, i'm just curious as to why the signal
dropped
1267 [15:46:18] <brenlae> thoughts?
1268 [15:46:39] <greycat> that sounds like normal variance to me
1269 [15:46:45] <brenlae> hmm
1270 [15:46:47] <allizom> lowin: there is, but there's really
not much point to it except running a mirror. If you still think you
need *every* DVD image, you can download them with jigdo as stated
on the download page. Or see
replaced-url
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1272 [15:47:04] <brenlae> greycat: well it usually never went
below 70% until now
1273 [15:47:10] <lowin> allizom, found it thanks.
1274 [15:48:02] <brenlae> i installed code::blocks with apt and
the speed was about 4,500 kB/s
1275 [15:48:09] <brenlae> so it's not a weak signal
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1279 [15:49:49] <allizom> brenlae: ath9k does not even use a
fimware
1280 [15:50:04] <brenlae> i see
1281 [15:50:09] <jim> brenlae, what is the wireless card in your
(what is it, a...) laptop?
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1284 [15:50:34] <jim> what device is it trying to contact?
1285 [15:50:40] <brenlae> Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565
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1292 [15:51:35] <jim> or... since you say you're getting net
from it, what device is it succeeding in contacting
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1294 [15:52:16] <brenlae> jim: no the interent is fine, the signal
just dropped by 10%
1295 [15:52:17] <jim> was the thing with the atheros moved in any
way?
1296 [15:52:35] <brenlae> jim: nope, it just dropped after the
reboot after installing firmware-atheros
1297 [15:52:41] <brenlae> it's still working
1298 [15:52:46] <greycat> allizom: brenlae: if there's any
doubt about whether the firmware is being loaded, consult dmesg |
grep -i firmware
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1300 [15:53:30] <jim> ok, maybe it does have to do with the
update... and, I'd see about the antenna in the thing the
atheros is attached to
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1304 [15:54:04] <brenlae> jim: i have no antenna, it is interna
1305 [15:54:06] <jim> maybe it decided to bring the power level
done?
1306 [15:54:09] <jim> down
1307 [15:54:09] <brenlae> maybe
1308 [15:54:16] <greycat> perhaps the firmware gives a more
accurate reading of the "signal strength". or a less
accurate reading. who knows.
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1310 [15:54:23] <brenlae> hm
1311 [15:54:33] <brenlae> jim: how do i modify the power level?
1312 [15:54:37] <jim> what is the device?
1313 [15:54:41] <jim> dunno
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1316 [15:55:08] <jim> is it a desktop, laptop, something else?
1317 [15:55:25] <brenlae> laptop
1318 [15:55:41] <jim> oh ok, did it come with the atheros?
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1320 [15:55:54] <brenlae> jim: yes
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1323 [15:56:40] <jim> just so you know... usually there is an
antenna inside laptops with wireless cards
1324 [15:56:48] <brenlae> oh
1325 [15:56:49] <brenlae> ok
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1328 [15:57:17] <jim> not connecting the antenna could screw the
radio part of the wireless card
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1332 [15:58:02] <brenlae> hmm
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1334 [15:58:16] <jim> most likely it's connected fine
1335 [15:58:21] <brenlae> i assume
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1338 [15:59:08] <brenlae> wavemon says it's running at 72.2
Mbits
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1340 [15:59:28] <allizom> brenlae: "percentage of
signal" does not mean anything at all, get your measurements in
dBm, repeat many times, see results vary across time - you do not
have any connectivity/performance issue either
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1343 [15:59:43] <brenlae> allizom: thank you very much :D
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1349 [16:01:49] <brenlae> it's about 54 dBm
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1355 [16:03:02] <brenlae> thanks people, apparently 54 dBm is
quite fine
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1357 [16:03:07] <brenlae> :D
1358 [16:03:39] <brenlae> bye for now! :)
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1362 [16:04:31] <barhom> Hey, I have bridge "br-lan"
with physical "eth0","wlan0","wlan1"
(it is a router). I am trying to mark packets coming in from
specific interfaces but not really working.
1363 [16:04:35] <barhom> iptables -t mangle -I PREROUTING -m
physdev --physdev-in br-lan -j MARK --set-mark 1 (works)
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1366 [16:06:11] <barhom> wrong paste, I meant,
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1369 [16:06:23] <brenlae> funny thing, xfce's wifi applet
showed 63% right? but wavemon shows the strength at 77%
1370 [16:06:25] <barhom> iptables -t mangle -I PREROUTING -i
br-lan -j MARK --set-mark 1 (works) however, iptables -t mangle -I
PREROUTING -i wlan0 -j MARK --set-mark 1 (does not work)
1371 [16:06:28] <brenlae> so clearly wavemon is correct
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1374 [16:07:54] <brenlae> later :)
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1382 [16:09:39] <r3m1> when I ifup eth1 I have ifup: failed to
bring up eth1
1383 [16:09:56] <r3m1> where can I see more verbose logs
concerning the reasons of failure ?
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1385 [16:10:27] <greycat> On the screen, usually. Or in journalctl
-u networking
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1395 [16:12:39] <petn-randall> barhom: Do you have an existing
rule to mark if coming from br-lan? That might be overwriting it.
1396 [16:13:14] <petn-randall> barhom: Otherwise an other option
might be to try it on the RAW table, that might still contain the
info of which interface it's coming from.
1397 [16:13:31] <barhom> petn-randall: If I run "iptables -L
-t mangle -v" I only see my rule
1398 [16:13:40] <barhom> I am unsure if its possible there are
other chains (Im running openwrt)
1399 [16:13:52] <barhom> petn-randall: RAW table?
1400 [16:14:10] <petn-randall> barhom: Ah, in that case you might
want to ask in #openwrt, or #netfilter, as this is not related to
Debian.
1401 [16:14:12] <barhom> if I run tcpdump -i wlan0 I see the
packets I want to mark coming in
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1404 [16:14:39] <barhom> petn-randall: True, I just thought
we'd find some iptables love in #debian, but yeh #netfilter is
good
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1406 [16:16:01] <petn-randall> There is, but there are subtle
differences in kernel versions and compile options, so there's
a good chance I wouldn't even be able to replicate this
behaviour on my Debian router.
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1423 [16:33:12] <ws2k3> in the past i could use ifconfig to see
howmany traffic an interface did. since ifconfig command is kinda
depricated. is there a new way to see it?
1424 [16:34:38] <greycat> "ip -s link" is a starting
point
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1446 [16:48:25] <ws2k3> greycat: is it possible to name an
interface? so not look at all interfaces? secondly. can is show
mb/gb?
1447 [16:48:42] <barhom> petn-randall: I tried the same on my
debian box, couldnt mark packets there either
1448 [16:48:58] <greycat> after 3 or 4 tries... "ip -s link
show eno1"
1449 [16:49:18] <barhom> petn-randall: basically I have a bond0
which consists of enp4s0 and enp5s0. I can mark packets on bond0
using "iptables -t mangle -I PREROUTING -i bond0"
1450 [16:49:32] <barhom> but I cant do the same using
enp4s0/enp5s0 directly
1451 [16:49:39] <B|ack0p> somehow system sounds gone in my xfce
desktop
1452 [16:49:43] <B|ack0p> what could be the problem?
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1454 [16:51:10] <greycat> Did you just upgrade from stretch to
buster, or something else? What changed?
1455 [16:51:23] <B|ack0p> i didnt upgrade
1456 [16:51:38] <B|ack0p> well i did installed many things
1457 [16:51:45] <B|ack0p> gnome-xfce-mate
1458 [16:51:50] <B|ack0p> then i uninstalled mate
1459 [16:51:53] <greycat> Is timidity one of the things that you
recently installed?
1460 [16:52:01] <B|ack0p> i also uninstalled i3
1461 [16:52:24] <B|ack0p> i dont know but i didnt install anything
like timidity specially
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1463 [16:53:05] <greycat> Is it installed?
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1465 [16:53:19] <B|ack0p> let me check
1466 [16:53:21] <greycat> The reason I ask is
replaced-url
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1468 [16:53:40] <B|ack0p> greycat: ~$ dpkg -l timidity
1469 [16:53:40] <B|ack0p> dpkg-query: no packages found matching
timidity
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1473 [16:54:39] <greycat> OK, it was worth a shot. You'll
have to diagnose the things in the regular way, then -- figure out
where the logs might be hiding, or find commands that can tell you
status info.
1474 [16:55:18] <B|ack0p> greycat: pc has sound in general but
what i mean is system event sounds
1475 [16:55:51] <greycat> So, something in the Desktop Environment
configs, or logs.
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1477 [16:56:21] <B|ack0p> in this article in forum someone
described how to get system event sounds:
replaced-url
1478 [16:56:27] <B|ack0p> when i first tried i got it working
1479 [16:56:39] <B|ack0p> then i uninstalled some packages
installed new ones..
1480 [16:56:46] <B|ack0p> and i wanted to change sound theme also
1481 [16:56:49] <B|ack0p> but didnt work
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1483 [16:57:06] <revolutionary> Hi all. USB wireless adapters are
taking MAC address when connected to the PC on Buster. How can i
change that? Thanks
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1486 [16:57:08] <B|ack0p> again i followed same things written in
forum installed same sound theme but still not working
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1488 [16:57:23] <revolutionary> adapters'name *
1489 [16:57:24] <B|ack0p> just defined login-logout sounds working
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1491 [16:58:44] <petn-randall> barhom: Channel bonding and
bridging are different things in the kernel, though.
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1507 [17:07:17] <revolutionary> Here duplicate question:
replaced-url
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1509 [17:08:29] <pluto> hello! I'm some prooblems by Debian
NETINST, than installa Debian Burst
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1517 [17:09:56] <petn-randall> pluto: Can you rephrase your
question? I have problems understanding it.
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1523 [17:12:24] <pluto> At the end of install, I'm using the
packager maneger to add software. When I try to install texlivefull,
machine going to deadlock. Screen black.
1524 [17:13:02] <pluto> So I must to do hard-reboot.
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1531 [17:20:08] <freq>
replaced-url
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1535 [17:22:35] <jelly> freq: no URL spam here, please
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1542 [17:24:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jelly
1543 [17:24:59] *** jelly sets mode: +b
*!freq@freeshell.de$##not-a-honeypot
1544 [17:25:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o jelly
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1547 [17:26:37] <jim> jelly, he posted that to all the channels he
and I have in common
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1556 [17:32:01] <dataCobra> Hello, is here somebody who can help
my with dhcpd.leases from isc-dhcp-server?
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1558 [17:32:27] <jim> help them do what/
1559 [17:32:28] <jim> ?
1560 [17:32:53] <revolutionary> jelly: please help me for USB wifi
adapter's name
1561 [17:33:02] <revolutionary> Here duplicate question:
replaced-url
1562 [17:33:05] <jim> one issue I had before was caused by the /
partition overfilling
1563 [17:33:11] <revolutionary> i'll be back
1564 [17:33:14] <somiaj> pluto: how are you installing texlive?
From debian's repo?
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1567 [17:33:53] <dataCobra> jim: Well my DNS/DHCP server is
working with DDNS. Now I set a static address for one of the
domains. But the lease of the old ip is not deleted even tho it is
expired...
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1570 [17:34:24] <dataCobra> I tried this with some testing with
grml.
1571 [17:34:25] <jim> dataCobra, would a specific machine get that
address?
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1574 [17:34:58] <pluto> I'm using the default ufficial
repository! Other programs installed by it works so fine. Only
Texlivefull do a problems
1575 [17:35:15] <dataCobra> Client1 got 192.168.1.150 before. Now
it gets 192.168.1.5. But the *.150 is not free so the next client
can get it
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1577 [17:35:43] <dataCobra> As example the grml test boot just
gets count up 151, 152, etc.
1578 [17:36:09] <dataCobra> The lease is expired
1579 [17:36:24] <dataCobra> I also set the lease time to 10 and
the max lease time to 20
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1581 [17:36:29] <dataCobra> to try some more
1582 [17:36:48] <jim> 192.168.1.150, so please answer the
question: do you want a specific machine to get 192.168.1.150?
1583 [17:37:03] <dataCobra> No
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1585 [17:37:16] <dataCobra> jim sorry I missunderstood your
question
1586 [17:37:30] <jim> or better, do you want some machines to get
the same address everytime?
1587 [17:37:55] <dataCobra> Some machines should get specific
addresses yeah.
1588 [17:38:14] <dataCobra> Like I said, the Client1 got a static
lease from me already
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1590 [17:38:25] <dataCobra> with 192.168.1.5
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1592 [17:38:39] <jim> ok, the addresses they should get, should
not be in the range that the dhcp server passes out
1593 [17:38:45] <jim> that's the first thing
1594 [17:39:12] <dataCobra> The dhcp server uses as a dynamic
range *.150 to *.200
1595 [17:39:40] <dataCobra> all clients that are new and not got a
static lease should get an address in this range
1596 [17:39:54] <jim> second, you can have the dhcp server listen
for the machine's mac address, and if that matches, pass them
the address
1597 [17:40:17] <dataCobra> jim yeah I did that already for
client1
1598 [17:40:20] <jim> dataCobra, hmm... could it be there are two
dhcp servers on that net?
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1600 [17:41:15] <dataCobra> No its a isolated virtual network
1601 [17:41:25] <dataCobra> There is only this 1 test dns/dhcp
server
1602 [17:41:27] <jim> and no routers?
1603 [17:41:30] <dataCobra> No
1604 [17:41:38] <dataCobra> just for testing purposes
1605 [17:42:40] <jim> hmm... if that's the only dhcp server,
then it would be helpful to see its config
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1609 [17:42:59] <dataCobra> jim ahh never mind
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1611 [17:43:12] <dataCobra> Thanks for your idea about the second
dhcp server
1612 [17:43:24] <jim> ok... so then you should read the config
file
1613 [17:43:25] <dataCobra> I forget to set the link of one vm to
zero for the seconde dhc
1614 [17:43:27] <dataCobra> *dhcp
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1616 [17:43:44] <jim> oh, you found the problem?
1617 [17:43:48] <dataCobra> I hope so
1618 [17:43:55] <dataCobra> at least the leases seem clear
1619 [17:43:57] <dataCobra> I will try
1620 [17:43:59] <jim> heh, I know how that goes
1621 [17:44:01] <dataCobra> Give me a sec
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1623 [17:44:07] <dataCobra> :D
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1626 [17:44:47] <jim> I'm in a deep pentatonic pool...
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1629 [17:46:25] <dataCobra> jim okay my hopes didn't get me
anywhere ... :/
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1634 [17:47:33] <dataCobra> jim all the leases are there, also the
ones who are expired like 30 minutes now...
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1639 [17:48:03] <dataCobra> jim now it is really only 1
dhcp-server and 2 clients
1640 [17:48:13] <greycat> what's the actual *problem*?
1641 [17:48:31] <dataCobra> Client1 has static address
192.168.1.5, but his mac-address is also occupied by lease *.150
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1643 [17:48:56] <dataCobra> Client2 is my grml test client who
gets a new mac-address everytime I start is for test purposes
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1645 [17:49:19] <greycat> "has static address"? as in,
written in /e/n/i?
1646 [17:49:22] <dataCobra> hey greycat, my dhcp-server does not
get rid of the expired leases
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1650 [17:49:52] <dataCobra> greycat: sorry, what do you mean with
/e/n/i?
1651 [17:49:56] <greycat> *sigh*
1652 [17:49:59] <greycat> !/e/n/i
1653 [17:50:04] <dataCobra> ?
1654 [17:50:06] <jim> does client1 have the same mac address all
the time?
1655 [17:50:10] <dataCobra> yeah
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1657 [17:50:17] <greycat> dpkg, /e/n/i is
<reply>/etc/network/interfaces -- the configuration file for
network interfaces in Debian
1658 [17:50:18] <dpkg> okay, greycat
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1661 [17:50:30] <jim> he means /etc/network/interfaces
1662 [17:50:36] <dataCobra> oh
1663 [17:50:52] <dataCobra> no the /e/n/i is dhcp for this
interface
1664 [17:50:58] <dataCobra> on client1
1665 [17:51:00] <greycat> MY EYES
1666 [17:51:15] <jim> a file that has data about the interface
1667 [17:51:16] <greycat> oh, you mean ... never mind.
1668 [17:51:36] <jim> interfaces, rather
1669 [17:51:38] <greycat> So in short, both clients are set up as
DHCP clients, NOT static interfaces.
1670 [17:51:48] <dataCobra> That is correct
1671 [17:52:00] <dataCobra> only DHCP-Server has a static address
obviously
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1673 [17:52:09] <greycat> And when you say "Client1 has
static address 192.168.1.5" you really mean "DHCP server
is configured to give 192.168.1.5 to Client1's MAC"
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1675 [17:52:23] <jim> you -could- set them up as static in their
/e/n/i file
1676 [17:52:28] <dataCobra> greycat: yeah that is correct, sorry
for misspelling that
1677 [17:53:56] <dataCobra> I tought that the leases get
automaticly removed after the lease is expired and another client
can use this IP-address
1678 [17:54:02] <jim> another thing you could do (this is an
extreme action), is to clear the leases, remove the lease files...
if this is a large net, for example for your work, you
shouldn't do that
1679 [17:54:38] <dataCobra> jim, yeah that is a manual move to do.
It would be not problematic because it's my homelab
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1681 [17:55:04] <dataCobra> jim: but I would rather like, if the
dhcp-server does it himself
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1683 [17:55:58] <jim> ok, so it's a choice you have... if
there are two leases pointing at the same mac, maybe you should get
rid of those leases
1684 [17:56:40] <dataCobra> jim yeah that would be clear *.150
1685 [17:56:55] <dataCobra> but *151 is also occupied by an old
client3
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1687 [17:57:08] <jim> yeah, I dunno what the dhcp server does with
old leases
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1690 [17:58:10] <jim> maybe your lease data is
"problematic"
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1703 [18:02:56] <dataCobra> How can I check as which user the dhcp
server ist started?
1704 [18:02:59] <dataCobra> *is started?
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1706 [18:03:15] <greycat> ps -ef | grep dhcp
1707 [18:03:33] <greycat> or systemctl status
whatever-the-service-name-is
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1712 [18:05:22] <jim> systemctl | grep dhcp?
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1714 [18:05:36] <jim> to find the service name
1715 [18:05:36] <greycat> might be a reasonable way to discover
the service name, if you can't just guess it
1716 [18:05:54] <jim> it's gonna be something.service
1717 [18:05:58] <dataCobra> I created the service myself
1718 [18:06:08] <greycat> you could also try dpkg -L pkgname |
grep -F .service
1719 [18:06:09] <dataCobra> So the server is running as root
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1721 [18:06:23] <dataCobra> I tought maybe there is a permission
issue with the lease file.
1722 [18:06:31] <dataCobra> But it's not :(
1723 [18:06:36] <greycat> so you're not even using the Debian
package, and yet you're asking for our help
1724 [18:06:48] <dataCobra> I use the debian package
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1726 [18:06:55] <jim> wait, you created the service? does that
mean you wrote a systemd unit file?
1727 [18:06:55] <greycat> 12:05 dataCobra> I created the
service myself
1728 [18:07:08] <dataCobra> greycat: yeah the *.service file
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1730 [18:07:11] <greycat> WHY
1731 [18:07:38] <greycat> And if you did that, WHY would you have
to ask us which user it runs as? YOU wrote the service file.
1732 [18:07:39] <jim> that would be my question too,,, except my
caps lock is long since BROKE :)
1733 [18:07:50] <revolutionary> hi. i can't copy Android
external sdcard contents to the Desktop. I am seeing Couldn't
read the file error. Is there any way to copy MTP files through
console?
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1735 [18:07:58] <dataCobra> I forgot about it
1736 [18:08:08] <dataCobra> I was thinking maybe I did something
wrong
1737 [18:08:15] <jelly> revolutionary: mtp is horribly unreliable,
which client are you using
1738 [18:08:38] <revolutionary> jelly: Buster. What should i do
for reliable way?
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1740 [18:08:57] <jim> ok, so it would be helpful to (1) know the
unit file's name and present location, and (2) to see the unit
file itself
1741 [18:09:11] <jhutchins_wk> dataCobra: Why did you create your
own service file?
1742 [18:09:19] <dataCobra> I created the *.service on my own.
Because I only want to use IPv4 and with my service file it only
uses IPv4
1743 [18:09:22] <jelly> revolutionary: I have no idea. Maybe
kdeconnect (which implements a sftp server on the android device)
will work better for you.
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1745 [18:09:31] <dataCobra> No dhcpd6.conf
1746 [18:09:42] <revolutionary> jelly: i am on KDE
1747 [18:09:50] <jim> , /echo
1748 [18:10:09] <jelly> revolutionary: and try each of the 3
*mtpfs packages, maybe one works well for your device
1749 [18:10:14] <revolutionary> jelly: i opened kdeconnect but i
can't see any device
1750 [18:10:19] <greycat> If you only wanted TWEAK the Debian
service, there is a drop-in directory specifically for that purpose.
1751 [18:10:33] <somiaj> revolutionary: there are some mtp file
systems you can use to mount and copy, though my experience is
usinge the developer debugging tool adb is much faster (mtp is slow)
1752 [18:10:58] <dataCobra> The problem is that the isc-dhcp
service is an old init5 service
1753 [18:11:07] <dataCobra> I'm have no clue of init5
1754 [18:11:13] <dataCobra> I use systemd all the time
1755 [18:11:29] <revolutionary> somiaj: how can i use adb tool for
copying a folder?
1756 [18:11:29] <dataCobra> So I made a functional service for
systemd
1757 [18:11:36] <jelly> revolutionary: you need to install the
kdeconnect component on the android from the default store, then
pair them, the device need to be in the same network segment for
autodetection of peers, or at least have routable tcp between them
1758 [18:11:48] <somiaj> revolutionary: you can use it to
pull/push data to/from the andriod device.
1759 [18:12:10] <revolutionary> somiaj: let me try
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1761 [18:12:27] <revolutionary> jelly: i connected to the VPN. I
have no idea how can i make routing
1762 [18:12:33] <jelly> revolutionary: and if everything else
fails, then yeah, adb (but that requires physical usb cable
connection IIRC)
1763 [18:12:35] <revolutionary> and also i have a firewall
1764 [18:12:39] <somiaj> revolutionary: you can only use it to
access user data (not system data), but that is what I use to get my
photots off my andriod device form the command line. I find it much
faster when copying gigs of photos than using MTP. Though I'm
not sure about any gui tools for this.
1765 [18:12:59] <revolutionary> somiaj: let me try
1766 [18:13:05] <jelly> revolutionary: both vpn on the android and
firewall on linux or android WILL interfere with kdeconnect
1767 [18:13:08] <somiaj> revolutionary: you also have to connect
via usb and enable developing debugging on the device. There are
some google docs about this.
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1769 [18:13:20] <greycat> Ah, I didn't realize
isc-dhcp-server was still using an init.d script, but
replaced-url
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1772 [18:13:42] <jelly> revolutionary: of both are in the same vpn
network, then you can try connecting each other using their IP
address.
1773 [18:14:00] <dataCobra> greycat: Yeah I'm not lying
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1775 [18:14:16] <dataCobra> greycat: It wouldn't help my if I
would lie
1776 [18:14:38] <jim> very true
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1778 [18:14:43] <greycat> unfortunately, the file lists on p.d.o
have a history of being wrong, so I can't absolutely trust what
it says
1779 [18:15:08] <revolutionary> jelly: i will try adb first. if i
fail i will pass to the kdeconnect, thank you and somiaj
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1782 [18:16:01] <jim> damn, that sucks... greycat, do you know the
reason one instance of pdo being wrong about package file lists
could be wrong?
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1785 [18:16:38] <jelly> revolutionary: (kdeconnect provides some
other neat things, like notifications on desktop, sharing URLs and
clipboard, remote control for media players and an additional input
dev)
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1787 [18:17:06] <revolutionary> jelly: i will try but i have no
idea how can i route TCP, etc.
1788 [18:17:41] <jelly> revolutionary: you probably know how to
put your computer and your phone on the same network, and maybe how
to temporarily stop the firewall on both
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1792 [18:20:35] <revolutionary> somiaj: adb debugging is enabled
and when i do ./adb devices i can't see any devices
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1802 [18:26:15] <sponix> revolutionary: try with "sudo"
.. and it might be sudo adb list
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1804 [18:26:28] <revolutionary> sponix: let me try
1805 [18:26:39] <revolutionary> same
1806 [18:26:51] <revolutionary> i did this but same
1807 [18:26:51] <revolutionary>
replaced-url
1808 [18:27:05] <jelly> revolutionary: you also need to enable usb
debugging on the android device
1809 [18:27:15] <jelly> oh, you did that
1810 [18:27:18] <revolutionary> yes
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1812 [18:27:40] <jelly> does any device appear in "lsusb
1813 [18:27:52] <revolutionary> jelly: let me check
1814 [18:28:04] <jelly> at all, comparing before you plug in the
phone to after it's plugged in
1815 [18:28:08] <revolutionary> Bus 003 Device 052: ID 04e8:6860
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd Galaxy series, misc. (MTP mode)
1816 [18:28:20] <jelly> that's not in adb debug mode
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1818 [18:28:37] <revolutionary> how can i do that
1819 [18:28:51] <jelly> no idea what Samsung does different. You
might need to disable mtp first, perhaps
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1825 [18:29:55] <revolutionary> i found a config on Developer
mode. Default USB Configuration is selected as File Transfer
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1827 [18:30:08] <revolutionary> Should i change to the No data
transfer?
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1829 [18:31:31] <jelly> !TIAS
1830 [18:31:31] <dpkg> TIAS is "Try It And See".
1831 [18:32:10] <revolutionary> it didn't change
1832 [18:32:13] <revolutionary> same MTP mode
1833 [18:32:28] <revolutionary> worked!
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1837 [18:33:50] <revolutionary> i can't access external_sd
folder :/
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1840 [18:34:38] <revolutionary> /system/bin/sh: cd: /external_sd:
No such file or directory
1841 [18:35:39] <revolutionary> i found!
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1844 [18:37:40] <revolutionary> how can i push a folder (not file)
with adb push?
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1849 [18:39:01] <d9a> revolutionary: If it doesn't let you,
you can just archive it. I'm not sure since I've only ever
adb pushed.
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1851 [18:39:06] <d9a> zips
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1855 [18:40:38] <revolutionary> i found
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1890 [19:03:35] <revolutionary> if i do this symlink process how
can i revert that change?
1891 [19:03:36] <revolutionary>
replaced-url
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1899 [19:08:21] <revolutionary> anyone?
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1914 [19:22:42] <jelly> revolutionary: if you're asking
"how to revert a creation of a symlink", the answer is
"delete it"
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1924 [19:27:45] <revolutionary> jelly: if i do that process where
will it being created?
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1926 [19:28:01] <revolutionary> i mean where is that symlink
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1936 [19:32:22] <jhutchins_wk> revolutionary: Wherever you put it.
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1938 [19:32:57] <revolutionary> jhutchins_wk: if i put /dev/null
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1943 [19:36:04] <jelly> revolutionary: you don't put
"/dev/null", you put a symlink named
"80-net-setup-link.rules" into the
"/etc/udev/rules.d" directory
1944 [19:36:36] <jelly> ... when you run this command: ln -s
/dev/null /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules
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1946 [19:37:05] <jelly> revolutionary: so the symlink is created
at /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-setup-link.rules
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1949 [19:37:32] <jelly> revolutionary: its value, what it POINTS
TO, however, will be /dev/null
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1952 [19:38:52] <jelly> !symlink
1953 [19:38:52] <dpkg> Symlink rule of thumb / The link must be at
the end / The filename comes first, or ln -sn target linkname
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1956 [19:39:48] <revolutionary> jelly: i found a folder called
/lib/udev/rules.d/ and it contains 80-net....rules. i want to do
that symlink job. Should i copy 80-net.... file from this folder to
the /etc/udev/rules.d/?
1957 [19:40:15] <revolutionary> because /etc/udev/rules.d/ is
empty
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1959 [19:40:47] <jelly> revolutionary: why would you do that?
1960 [19:40:56] <revolutionary> because /etc/udev/rules.d/ is
empty
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1962 [19:41:05] <jelly> revolutionary: what is your actual GOAL?
1963 [19:41:57] <revolutionary> jelly: my goal is preventing USB
wifi adapter's name taking MAC address like this question
1964 [19:41:58] <revolutionary>
replaced-url
1965 [19:42:14] <jelly> revolutionary: is that your question?
1966 [19:42:18] <revolutionary> no
1967 [19:42:24] <revolutionary> it is ubuntu
1968 [19:42:28] <revolutionary> but same goal
1969 [19:42:31] <whislock> revolutionary: Why does it matter?
Configure the interface.
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1972 [19:42:48] <revolutionary> whislock: how can i do that?
1973 [19:43:04] <whislock> By not complaining about its name and
configuring it using its current name.
1974 [19:43:06] <revolutionary> to wlp5s0
1975 [19:43:28] <revolutionary> or wlan0
1976 [19:43:34] <revolutionary> but wlp5s0 is good
1977 [19:43:44] <whislock> Again: Stop whining about its name.
It's not something you should be typing constantly anyway.
1978 [19:44:08] <whislock> It has a name. Configure it using that
name.
1979 [19:44:12] <sponix> lol
1980 [19:44:19] <jelly> but it's an ugly name!
1981 [19:44:30] <revolutionary> so
1982 [19:44:34] <greycat> you're an ugly name!
1983 [19:44:46] <whislock> Given that most of you show up as
purple for me, you're ALL ugly names.
1984 [19:44:49] <jelly> this whole channel is an ugly name!
1985 [19:45:13] <jelly> whislock: that can be remedied easily with
a swift /kick :-P
1986 [19:45:31] <whislock> jelly: You're the only one NOT
purple. ;)
1987 [19:45:41] <revolutionary> if i do that symlink job
won't i see that wlx name anymore, right? What will i see?
1988 [19:45:43] <jelly> carry on
1989 [19:45:46] <greycat> he is not grape jelly, apparently
1990 [19:45:56] <whislock> revolutionary: Why do you care about
the name? Just use the name it has.
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1992 [19:46:10] <jelly> revolutionary: fuck if we know, try it and
see what happens
1993 [19:46:33] <jelly> you're allowed to experiment.
Especially if you have backups!
1994 [19:46:33] <revolutionary> you should know
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1996 [19:46:46] <revolutionary> backups for what?
1997 [19:46:51] <whislock> And I do know. Use the name it has and
stop whining.
1998 [19:46:59] <jelly> revolutionary: for your Debian
installation, the OS
1999 [19:47:11] <jelly> the data. the computer.
2000 [19:47:12] <revolutionary> will that effect Debian
installation?
2001 [19:47:37] <jelly> backups allow you to restore a previous
state if you mess up, in general
2002 [19:47:47] <whislock> If you screw it up, sure.
2003 [19:48:00] <revolutionary> i am using encryption how can i
take full backup?
2004 [19:48:09] <revolutionary> like image
2005 [19:48:18] <whislock> Has no idea how to back up, wants to
screw with udev rules to needlessly rename an interface
2006 [19:48:27] <whislock> What could go wrong...
2007 [19:48:29] <revolutionary> make sense
2008 [19:48:32] <greycat> !flw
2009 [19:48:32] <dpkg> <narcmann> abrotman: I don't
rely on my hard disks for storage
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2011 [19:48:46] <jelly> that was strangely appropriate
2012 [19:48:46] * whislock /popcorn
2013 [19:49:08] <revolutionary> are you joking?
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2015 [19:49:12] <revolutionary> or serious?
2016 [19:49:33] <jelly> revolutionary: having backups is important
but is also a whole different task.
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2018 [19:49:39] <greycat> FLW is probably heavily biased toward
potentially catastrophic situations
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2021 [19:50:06] <revolutionary> do you know how can i create en
email server on Debian?
2022 [19:50:14] <jelly> revolutionary: for now, it's enough
to know you can revert creation of a symlink by doing rm on that
symlink
2023 [19:50:29] <revolutionary> an*
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2027 [19:51:31] <petn-randall> revolutionary: If you have to ask,
the answer is probably: don't. For now.
2028 [19:51:46] <jelly> revolutionary: sadly I do know how to
create an email server, but the answer would be somewhat extensive
and a bit out of scope for this channel.
2029 [19:51:50] <whislock> revolutionary: Sure. Learn what an MTA
is, learn how to install one, learn how to configure one, learn how
to maintain one, and then learn how to remove yourself from every
spam blacklist on the internet.
2030 [19:52:06] <jelly> whislock: that's just MTA.
2031 [19:52:09] <petn-randall> Running your own mail server
requires a lot of knowledge of arcane mail history, and is a *lot*
(several orders of magnitude) more work than running a web server.
2032 [19:52:21] <whislock> jelly: Yup. And then there's steps
two through 37.
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2034 [19:52:39] <revolutionary> i want to create an email server
like riseup
2035 [19:52:43] <jelly> and the step 28 .. 37 are an endless loop
2036 [19:52:59] <jelly> revolutionary: rise up is kind of dead.
They did not have backups.
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2038 [19:53:27] <revolutionary> what do you mean they didn't
have backups
2039 [19:53:30] <revolutionary> they are online
2040 [19:53:34] <jelly> oh, sorry, that's a different project
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2043 [19:53:54] <whislock> revolutionary: Running something like
riseup is orders of magnitude more complex than a typical mail
server.
2044 [19:54:17] <revolutionary> whislock: can you analyze that
email server for creating duplicate one?
2045 [19:54:25] <petn-randall> You probably want to have a
complete team working full-time.
2046 [19:54:29] <whislock> Can I do your homework for you? No.
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2048 [19:54:56] <revolutionary> you all mean this is impossible
job for me
2049 [19:54:58] <greycat> Ironically, running a mail server
isn't hard at all, as long as you don't care about whether
you can send mail to *everyone*. If you only need to be able to send
to a few specific domains, and if you know those domains won't
blacklist you, it's pretty easy.
2050 [19:55:31] <greycat> All of the difficulty comes in when you
try to stay off the blacklists so you can send to gmail etc.
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2053 [19:55:45] <B|ack0p> i asked before but.. if you dont mind
may i ask how can i find out what is wrong with my system event
sounds?
2054 [19:55:47] <petn-randall> greycat: And then you have to make
sure you don't create mail loops, and you set up DNS correctly,
don't create backscatter mail, etc pp
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2056 [19:56:04] <petn-randall> B|ack0p: What is wrong with them?
2057 [19:56:16] <whislock> revolutionary: With what you're
wanting to do, contrasted against the lack of understanding that
your line of questioning implies, yes, it's a virtual
impossibility.
2058 [19:56:35] <d9a> revolutionary: Why do you want to host your
own mail server? If it's to learn, I say go for it. If
you're wanting to do it for email that's important, I
wouldn't.
2059 [19:56:48] <whislock> revolutionary: My tone so far has been
sardonic, but my previous statement was meant in all seriousness.
2060 [19:56:52] <B|ack0p> well i am using xfce, i installed
gnome-session-canberra to enable sound themes and get sound
notifications
2061 [19:57:07] <B|ack0p> i got it working but then i wanted to
change sound theme
2062 [19:57:11] <B|ack0p> but it didnt work
2063 [19:57:29] <B|ack0p> then i did many things after that
2064 [19:57:35] <B|ack0p> removed installed other things
2065 [19:57:42] <B|ack0p> i ignored sound thing for a while..
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2067 [19:58:12] <B|ack0p> i followed this post:
replaced-url
2068 [19:58:22] <B|ack0p> but still system event sounds not
working
2069 [19:58:44] <whislock> B|ack0p: Those instructions are for a
5+ year old Ubuntu release.
2070 [19:58:54] <B|ack0p> xfce
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2072 [19:59:01] <B|ack0p> whislock: when i first installed it
worked
2073 [19:59:07] <whislock> And now it doesn't.
2074 [19:59:09] <B|ack0p> with the mentioned sound theme
2075 [19:59:13] <B|ack0p> but now it doesnt
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2077 [19:59:22] <B|ack0p> only login/logout sound working when i
set
2078 [19:59:22] <whislock> You followed instructions for a 5+ year
old Ubuntu PRErelease.
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2080 [19:59:31] <B|ack0p> that sound theme is a bit annoying so i
wanted to change
2081 [19:59:45] <B|ack0p> whislock: 5+ years old but worked
2082 [19:59:52] <jelly> revolutionary: mail servers typically
consist of 10+ moving parts, separate pieces of software, and
require relatively constant monitoring to perform their purpose well
even if you initially follow a decent howto to set things up
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2087 [20:00:06] <B|ack0p> anyway is there another new way to get
system sounds working in xfce?
2088 [20:00:19] <B|ack0p> sound notifications
2089 [20:00:25] <B|ack0p> like in gnome
2090 [20:00:35] <whislock> B|ack0p: Reinstall and don't
follow forum posts for a five year old version of a different
distro.
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2092 [20:00:56] <B|ack0p> whislock: reinstall what?
2093 [20:01:03] <B|ack0p> xfce ?
2094 [20:01:04] <whislock> Debian, which I assume you're
running.
2095 [20:01:05] <jelly> "reinstall" is really dumb
advice for Debian
2096 [20:01:17] <jhutchins_wk> revolutionary: I would certainly
wait until you are a lot more familiar with linux before trying a
public mailserver.
2097 [20:01:23] <B|ack0p> i was considering it but then i decided
to learn how to fix it first
2098 [20:01:26] <whislock> I don't plan to support a Debian
install that's been mangled by - again - a five year old guide
for a prerelease version of Ubuntu.
2099 [20:01:34] <whislock> Anyone else is welcome to try.
2100 [20:01:52] <B|ack0p> whislock: so we need to re-install whole
distro when we break something
2101 [20:02:15] <B|ack0p> so after installing we shouldnt touch
anything not to break
2102 [20:02:26] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: Sometimes that's
best, especially if you don't know wht you changed.
2103 [20:02:31] <rany> B|ack0p, go to appearance and enable
"Event Sounds"
2104 [20:02:39] <B|ack0p> jhutchins_wk: then how will i learn this
debian/linux?
2105 [20:02:45] <B|ack0p> breaking and fixing is good way to learn
i guess
2106 [20:02:53] <B|ack0p> rany: already did that and enabled
2107 [20:02:54] <jelly> whislock, B|ack0p: but this particular
forum thread does some pretty horrible things it's almost
warranted
2108 [20:02:56] <B|ack0p> but not working
2109 [20:03:09] <B|ack0p> ok..
2110 [20:03:15] <whislock> jelly: I didn't suggest
reinstallation lightly. I did read that thread first.
2111 [20:03:20] <B|ack0p> so now should i reinstall?
2112 [20:03:24] <rany> B|ack0p, check if "System Sounds"
is muted in pavucontrol
2113 [20:03:25] <jelly> sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/xfce4-session
2114 [20:03:46] <B|ack0p> rany: not muted
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2117 [20:04:01] <B|ack0p> jelly: should i do that?
2118 [20:04:10] <rany> the fact that it shows up is a good start
;)
2119 [20:04:23] <rany> my guess has to do with pulseaudio not
starting early
2120 [20:04:27] <Ankman> reinstalling an OS if problems occur is
what windows users do. in linux problems should be fixed without
reinstalltion
2121 [20:04:28] <rany> s/has/is it has/
2122 [20:04:45] <B|ack0p> rany: screenshot coming
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2124 [20:05:05] <jhutchins_wk> B|ack0p: It depends on how
important this is to you and what else is broken.
2125 [20:05:14] <B|ack0p> rany:
replaced-url
2126 [20:05:19] <Ankman> i'd get rid of pulseaudion in the
first place
2127 [20:05:26] <rany> B|ack0p, found this forum:
replaced-url
2128 [20:05:31] <rany> i think it can be a good help for you
2129 [20:05:54] <B|ack0p> jhutchins_wk: i like those sounds
2130 [20:05:57] <whislock> Ankman: It takes me 30 minutes to
install and configure an OS. If it takes me longer than that to
troubleshoot, why should I? The comparison to Windows users
doesn't provide value to the conversation.
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2132 [20:06:26] <Ankman> whislock: because you lose all of your
configuration
2133 [20:06:28] <whislock> Pragmatically, it's a cost vs.
benefit assessment.
2134 [20:06:32] <whislock> Ankman: "install and
configure"
2135 [20:06:33] <jelly> B|ack0p: that random thread does some bad
stuff. Reinstall will be the easiest way to get a sane starting
position.
2136 [20:06:40] <B|ack0p> 2014-02-05 02:19:56 - this is also 5+
yrs old and not debian :p
2137 [20:06:51] <whislock> Ankman: The "and configure"
implies that that's not a huge loss for me.
2138 [20:06:52] <revolutionary> jhutchins_wk: i think so
2139 [20:06:58] <jelly> B|ack0p: unless you have a backup and know
how to restore the whole OS! :-)
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2141 [20:07:17] <B|ack0p> jelly: i dont keep important files on
this partition
2142 [20:07:23] <B|ack0p> i use cloud or external disk
2143 [20:07:31] <B|ack0p> so reinstalling is not a problem but it
is annoying
2144 [20:07:35] <B|ack0p> i am lazy for that :p
2145 [20:07:43] <whislock> Ankman: So, again, cost vs. benefit.
"windows users" comparisons don't factor in to this.
Go wage your OS wars elsewhere.
2146 [20:07:48] <Ankman> whislock: yes, if you didn't spent a
lot of time to configure your system the reinstallation is a good
idea
2147 [20:07:53] <B|ack0p> also not good option if i can fix and if
people here help me
2148 [20:07:54] <jelly> B|ack0p: and I'm lazy to help you
with the current setup
2149 [20:08:01] <B|ack0p> jelly: :/
2150 [20:08:03] <jelly> !next
2151 [20:08:03] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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2153 [20:08:16] <B|ack0p> i didnt mean that
2154 [20:08:26] <jelly> no takebacks
2155 [20:08:30] <rany> B|ack0p, i don't think reinstalling
will fix your problems
2156 [20:08:35] <B|ack0p> did i say something wrong?
2157 [20:08:43] <jelly> rany: that's a more philosophical
stance
2158 [20:08:47] <whislock> It'll give him a sane starting
point to resolve the actual issue, if it persists.
2159 [20:08:51] <Ankman> but i spent years to get my system
running. a reinstallation would be a disaster for me
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2161 [20:09:13] <B|ack0p> rany: i got it working at once.. but
later probably i broke something
2162 [20:09:14] <rany> Ankman, more like, a hard disk failure will
be a disaster for me.... BACK UP YOUR STUFF
2163 [20:09:20] <jelly> rany: because one of his problems is being
able to recognize good and bad advice on internet
2164 [20:10:29] <jelly> or at least learning enough to be able to
undo what the advice does
2165 [20:10:52] <rany> on unrelated note, snapcraft on debian is
horrible
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2168 [20:12:11] <rany> i've thought i might give it a try but
i gave up
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2170 [20:12:35] <Ankman> rany: backing up your stuff is always a
good idea. i uploaded /etc/* and stuff into a cloud to be able to
get the data back if the HD dies
2171 [20:12:36] <rany> fonts, themes, everything bad...... flatpak
and appimage work way better
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2175 [20:13:11] <B|ack0p> rany: give it try what? xfce?
2176 [20:13:26] <rany> B|ack0p, snapcraft
2177 [20:14:01] <rany> i'm already using xfce ;)
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2180 [20:14:38] <jelly> huge internal or external disks are cheap
enough it's more annoying to choose what not to backup, so I
backup everything
2181 [20:14:42] <rany> but my themes and modification are
minimal... i just change the panel and set theme to
"Adwaita-Dark" ...
2182 [20:15:01] <rany> i don't like to make too dramatic
changes
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2189 [20:20:30] <B|ack0p> ok i will reinstall debian tomorrow
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2192 [20:20:50] <B|ack0p> with only xfce de
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2194 [20:21:47] <rany> you are running multiple de?! NEVER DO THAT
2195 [20:22:22] <B|ack0p> rany: yes gnome and xfce
2196 [20:22:24] <greycat> it's OK to install multiple desktop
environments; there's a thingy at login time (if you use a DM)
that lets you choose one
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2199 [20:22:41] <B|ack0p> i had mate and i3 too but removed them
2200 [20:22:56] <rany> greycat, not it isn't OK... It causes
conflicts with packages and configurations.... Not a fun place to be
2201 [20:23:30] <jelly> rany: eh. it causes interesting issues but
things can be fixed.
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2205 [20:24:25] <whislock> rany: There's nothing wrong with
running multiple DEs. Captastrophe text isn't warranted.
2206 [20:24:26] <jelly> so sometimes it takes 5 different
volunteers and 3 days in here to fix them
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2210 [20:25:19] <rany> whislock, well, try installing GNOME and
KDE on the same system and tell me if you enjoy the experience
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2213 [20:25:41] <whislock> I sure do, depending on which workflow
works better for me given the tasks.
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2215 [20:26:08] <elpensadorsec> does anyone has guide to install
owncloud
2216 [20:26:37] <rany> elpensadorsec, the internet if full of
resources for nextcloud
2217 [20:26:43] <greycat> !owncloud
2218 [20:26:43] <dpkg> ownCloud is an open source web application
for data synchronization, file sharing and cloud storage.
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2219 [20:26:55] <greycat> 142 people on #owncloud
2220 [20:27:03] <whislock> elpensadorsec: Owncloud's own docs
have what you're looking for.
2221 [20:27:08] <jelly> !nextcloud
2222 [20:27:08] <dpkg> somebody said nextcloud was a fork of
owncloud.
replaced-url
2223 [20:27:35] <whislock> (And nextcloud might be a better
option.)
2224 [20:27:59] <greycat> 456 people on #nextcloud
2225 [20:28:03] <jelly> dpkg, nextcloud is also #nextcloud on
irc.freenode.net.
2226 [20:28:03] <dpkg> okay, jelly
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2228 [20:28:30] <elpensadorsec> @greycat, i installed it owncloud
couple weeks ago and it stop working for some reason
2229 [20:28:42] <jelly> most users switched to nextcloud, I'm
told
2230 [20:28:57] <rany> I did, but overall you won't notice
much of a difference
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2233 [20:29:08] <whislock> Aside from a much more active
community.
2234 [20:29:11] <rany> It is mostly the same, but it is developed
more actively
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2236 [20:29:28] <rany> Nextcloud and Owncloud is akin to
Libreoffice and openoffice
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2241 [20:30:38] <jelly> whislock: you'll find an interesting
example of what can go wrong installing multiple DEs if you keep
logs of this channel and hunt for our friend B|ack0p around this
Saturday and Friday and their pkexec / synaptic woes
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2243 [20:31:15] <rany> jelly, since when did pkexec cause
problems?
2244 [20:31:45] <jelly> not going to summarize, sorry
2245 [20:31:58] <greycat> !irclog
2246 [20:31:59] <dpkg> methinks irclog is #debian on
<freenode> is logged at
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2248 [20:32:12] <rany> thanks greycat
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2250 [20:32:17] <jelly> the logs on rikers.org are very likely
broken
2251 [20:32:43] <greycat> they don't seem broken at first
glance
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2254 [20:32:58] <whislock> jelly: Good to know. :)
2255 [20:33:08] <greycat> I've seen character encoding issues
with them before, but that's typically minor.
2256 [20:33:34] <rany> found it :
replaced-url
2257 [20:34:11] <jelly> oh nice, they're fixed apparently
2258 [20:34:48] <jelly> greycat: there were symptoms of an
apparent disk full situation during March-May 2019 or so
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2260 [20:35:18] <jelly> most days were truncated or missing
2261 [20:36:19] <jelly> seems fixed now and all the files
refreshed (from a different source, perhaps)
2262 [20:36:31] <rany> the days got truncated because its summer
;P
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2264 [20:37:13] <jelly> or not
replaced-url
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2266 [20:37:46] <greycat> 420, eh
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2273 [20:41:25] <jako> hello
2274 [20:41:39] <jako> i nerd help please
2275 [20:41:43] <jelly> !ask
2276 [20:41:43] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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2280 [20:43:23] <B|ack0p> we are all nerds arent we :p
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2285 [20:45:04] <jelly> except for the geeks
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2311 [21:06:35] <jako> "I have a problem with log in;
I'm running Debian version _buster__. When I try to do
"log in". I cant, i am the only user, I have my user AND
password correctly entered ,i get "user AND password
incorrect".
2312 [21:06:35] <jako> Is there any other option to log in with my
credentials? I
2313 [21:06:35] <jako> I remembr It has a partition for home,but
before extract the HDD AND try, i want to know if I could get into
that partition without foresic things.
2314 [21:06:35] <jako> It Is an medium old laptop (slow specs) i
used to use It Few times, but the last thing i remember i did was
trying to install freebsd /: but i could not.
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2316 [21:07:21] <wasamasa> such is bsd
2317 [21:07:37] <wasamasa> that's why debian is a thing, it
acts as hardware abstraction layer for your favorite programs
2318 [21:07:49] <greycat> jako: well then, login as root on the
console (Ctrl-Alt-F2) and take a look at the logs, the passwd and
shadow files, the output of getent, etc. Maybe reset the user's
password.
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2332 [21:13:09] <karlpinc> jako: If you have to, boot from the
installer in rescue mode and go into shell in the installed
system's environment and reset the password there.
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2337 [21:14:07] <jak2000> cat /etc/issue return me: Debuian
GNU/Linux 10 \n \l how to install java?
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2342 [21:15:51] <mutante> jak2000: apt-cache search openjdk - that
would give you a list of available packages
2343 [21:16:25] <mutante> jak2000: after that you can do something
like "apt-get install openjdk-11-jre" or whichever package
you need (JRE vs JDK and 8 vs 11)
2344 [21:16:54] <mutante> there is also openjdk-8-jre and
-headless
2345 [21:17:11] <jak2000> i thinkversion 11 i need pay not?
2346 [21:17:22] <mutante> jak2000: depends on the software you
want to run on it
2347 [21:17:32] <mutante> but i would start with 11 and see if it
works
2348 [21:17:34] <jak2000> web development
2349 [21:17:51] <mutante> ? you mean nodejs ?
2350 [21:18:07] <jak2000> java and servlets
2351 [21:18:33] <mutante> ok, i guess openjdk-11-jre
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2356 [21:20:11] <jak2000> ok testing
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2365 [21:24:04] <somiaj> revolutionary: you have to enable
developer mode on the phone, via some hidden combo (like click the
same option 11 times).
2366 [21:24:21] <greycat> up up down down ...
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2369 [21:24:34] <revolutionary> somiaj: i did bro, thanks again
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2373 [21:25:57] <somiaj> revolutionary: oh good, again some of the
methods jelly was mentioning over an ip might be more useful that
what I do. But I find adb the quickest way to copy data to/from my
phone with a usb cable (I was disapointed when andriod disabled
usbmass storage as an option for usb)
2374 [21:26:00] <jak2000> mutante: openjdk-11-jdk ?
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2379 [21:26:40] <mutante> jak2000:
replaced-url
2380 [21:26:56] <revolutionary> somiaj: adb is the fastest way i
think
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2382 [21:27:24] <jak2000> ok install jre :)
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2385 [21:28:10] <mutante> jak2000: start with jre and see if you
are missing anything. you can add jdk later but only if really
needed
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2387 [21:28:21] <mutante> otherwise it's probably a bit of
bloat
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2397 [21:33:31] <itsborked> I'm trying to apt upgrade, and
docker-ce fails (invoke-rc.d: initscript docker, action
"start" failed). I don't see anything to go on in
systemctl. Where should I start to debug?
replaced-url
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2401 [21:35:08] <jak2000> mutante:
replaced-url
2402 [21:35:09] <jak2000> :(
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2404 [21:35:56] <mutante> jak2000: you are mixing Debian and
Ubuntu. That's called a "frankendebian"
2405 [21:36:04] <mutante> !frankendebian
2406 [21:36:04] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random
repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and
derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone
can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and
#debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about
<reinstall>
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2408 [21:36:28] <mutante> especially not buster and trusty
2409 [21:36:30] <revolutionary> !flw
2410 [21:36:30] <dpkg> < stumbles> nvz: in that case I seem
to have a whole lot of packages that i have accidentally upgraded to
unstable - is there a 1 liner i can use to downgrade them all to
testing? < Eulex> stumbles, no < nvz> stumbles: haha
< nvz> stumbles: thats cute < stumbles> heh off i go
then clickety click
2411 [21:36:36] <revolutionary> !fwl
2412 [21:37:20] <jak2000> ooo i check the packages
2413 [21:37:29] <mutante> jak2000: under no circumstances you want
"replaced-url
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2417 [21:38:28] <mutante> jak2000: the package i listed is part of
the normal buster Debian repos.. no need for adding anything
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2424 [21:39:35] <mutante> jak2000: clean up the files in
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and /etc/apt/sources.list then apt-get
update and then try that again
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2434 [21:42:34] <jak2000> now installing :)
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2440 [21:46:59] <jak2000> beautiful:
replaced-url
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2442 [21:48:22] <mutante> jak2000: :)
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2444 [21:48:59] <dob1> hi, I don't remember which command to
use to add a samba user, I know there are 2, smbpasswd and another
one, but I don't remember which one I have to use
2445 [21:49:18] <somiaj> smbpasswd I think only generates the
password, I forget how to add users though
2446 [21:49:23] <greycat> if it's already a Linux user, then
all you need is smbpasswd
2447 [21:49:46] <dob1> yes a linux user
2448 [21:49:50] <dob1> to samba user
2449 [21:49:52] <greycat> smbpasswd -a username
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2451 [21:50:16] <jak2000> mutante you know about glassfish?
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2453 [21:50:43] <dob1> greycat, ok !
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2455 [21:51:39] <mutante> jak2000: no. but something about
"runs on top of Apache Felix" ?
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2457 [21:54:02] <mutante> jak2000: it looks like they dont make
proper Debian packages and you need to manually download and install
it .. :(
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2493 [22:20:33] <jak2000> mutante cant create a domain:
replaced-url
2494 [22:20:42] <jak2000> i think need install java8 on my debian
10
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2496 [22:21:45] <mutante> jak2000: ok.. well. luckily that is not
hard since you can just apt-get remove the 11 package and apt-get
install the 8 package
2497 [22:23:23] <jak2000> i do: apt remove openjdk-11-jre
2498 [22:23:27] <jak2000> and then apt purge java
2499 [22:23:38] <jak2000> but java -version continue give me some
info...
2500 [22:23:55] <greycat> "type -a java" may be
enlightening
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2503 [22:25:07] <jak2000> java is /usr/bin/java and /bin/java
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2505 [22:25:45] <greycat> if you're on a new install (not
upgrade) of buster, /bin is probably a symlink to /usr/bin
2506 [22:25:50] <mutante> jak2000: apt-get remove --purge
openjdk-11-jre ?
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2508 [22:26:08] <tangarora__> hi guys... I am wondering if I am
missing something wiht variable expansion in a case statement... it
does not weem like it is expanding the var... here is the line: case
$selection in; $exelist esac -- it works if I paste the contents of
the $exelist
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2510 [22:26:34] <tangarora__> I am trying to build whiptail menus
on the fly based on the output of a command...
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2512 [22:26:47] <greycat> tangarora__:
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2514 [22:27:42] <jak2000> yes:
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2517 [22:30:12] <ratrace> greycat: you should really bring in the
greybot :)
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2522 [22:31:09] <greycat> Questions that really belong in #bash
are infrequent enough that it's not worth the injection of
another bot.
2523 [22:31:22] <tangarora__> greycat, thanks for the input... but
I have both whiptail and dialog working interchangeably... I am
familiar wiht the structure... and it works except for the case
statement evauating the choice...
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2525 [22:31:43] <greycat> The point is that you build up an array
of arguments, and then pass them to whiptail, or dialog, or zenity,
or whatever.
2526 [22:31:56] <greycat> The approach is the same.
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2528 [22:32:34] <tangarora__> an array.... ok I think i did
that... maybe I am stumbling on something...
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2536 [22:34:04] <tangarora__> here is what I am fiddling with:
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2537 [22:35:34] <tangarora__> So it displays perfectly... its just
the last part...
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2539 [22:36:21] <tangarora__> When I write out the 1) command ;;
it works... but not if I build it in a variable and try to use
that...
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2541 [22:36:45] <tangarora__> It does work in the whiptail part...
just not in the case statement
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2544 [22:37:34] <greycat> Against my better judgment, let's
open this thing in lynx and see...
2545 [22:37:47] <greycat> case $selection in
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2547 [22:37:48] <greycat> $exelist
2548 [22:37:52] <greycat> That part is nonsense.
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2551 [22:38:04] <jak2000> mutante: i am ok?
2552 [22:38:04] * greycat closes lynx and clears the screen
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2556 [22:38:47] <greycat> You REALLY, REALLY, REALLY need to learn
how to use arrays and associative arrays.
2557 [22:38:58] <greycat> You don't seem to understand the
concept.
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2559 [22:39:43] <tangarora__> I am not a pro... jut trying here...
2560 [22:39:54] <tangarora__> this is the one that I wrote that
works...
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2561 [22:40:15] <greycat> more paste.ubuntu that you can't
even view raw without an account... no.
2562 [22:40:35] <greycat> Learn how to program. Then learn how to
program in bash. Then write your program.
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2564 [22:40:54] <greycat> At the VERY bare minimum, learn the
difference between a string and an array.
2565 [22:41:02] <tangarora__> That is what I am hoping to get help
with...
2566 [22:41:26] <mutante> jak2000: i dont know. does it work now?
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2572 [22:46:34] <Csubi> hey uys, anyone familiar with osmc/kodi?
2573 [22:46:45] <Csubi> stupid question, obviously you all are
2574 [22:47:02] <petn-randall> Csubi: It's better if you ask
your real question.
2575 [22:47:23] <petn-randall> Csubi: With a few hundred people in
this channel you can safely assume that someone knows something
about your problem.
2576 [22:47:26] <Csubi> I am having an issue that there is an
overlay of the menu in the background from the time of startup. even
during video playback...
2577 [22:47:41] <petn-randall> Csubi: On Debian stable?
2578 [22:47:48] <Csubi> yes
2579 [22:47:53] <petn-randall> Csubi: buster?
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2581 [22:48:00] <Csubi> osmc - november build
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2585 [22:48:41] <petn-randall> Csubi: Ah, OSMC is not Debian,
sorry.
2586 [22:49:05] <Csubi> I thought it was some sort of debian
2587 [22:49:25] <somiaj> !based on debian
2588 [22:49:26] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare
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2589 [22:49:31] <somiaj> !osmc
2590 [22:49:31] <dpkg> OSMC is a Linux distribution enabling the
<Raspberry Pi> and other devices to operate as an <XBMC>
front-end. It is not supported in #debian.
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2591 [22:49:33] <Csubi> anyhow, anyone can help me please? ;)
2592 [22:49:46] <somiaj> Csubi: try #osmc for OSMC
2593 [22:49:56] <petn-randall> Csubi: Seems as though you might
get help in #osmc on chat.freenode.net.
2594 [22:50:13] <Csubi> ok, thanks guys
2595 [22:50:27] <petn-randall> I can't reproduce the issue on
buster, so it might be specific to their build.
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2606 [22:59:28] <Kobaz> hmm, i have two different experiences
installing slapd on the same distro on different boxes
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2608 [23:00:05] <Kobaz> one asks me for admin password and base
dn. and then the other just does admin password. I have no idea how
to configure the base dn because the other system it actually asks
for it
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2616 [23:04:08] <mutante> Kobaz: check /etc/ldap/ldap.conf for a
line with "BASE"
2617 [23:04:15] <nulix> hi kobaz, i seem kinda lost there, base dn
is usually the domain of the directory instance
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2619 [23:04:49] <Kobaz> what's weird... (Same version of
slapd: 2.4.40+dfsg-1+deb8u4) is i have a BASE in one, but not the
other
2620 [23:04:51] <mutante> if your domain is example.com then i
would expect BASE dc=example,dc=com
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2622 [23:05:10] <Kobaz> okay so... say box A has a working
slapd.... box B also needs slapd
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2624 [23:05:27] <Kobaz> box A, apt-get install. and the setup
dialog does everything, password + base dn
2625 [23:05:41] <Kobaz> box A does not have /etc/ldap/ldap.conf
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2627 [23:06:11] <Kobaz> box B apt-get install. setup dialog does
admin password, and that's it... and drops a file in
/etc/ldap/ldap.conf with some template information
2628 [23:06:16] <mutante> you can try "dpkg-reconfigure
<packagename>" to repeat the setup steps it does at
install
2629 [23:06:23] <Kobaz> yeah tried that
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2631 [23:06:43] <Kobaz> weird
2632 [23:06:53] <Kobaz> wait i guess this is different then
2633 [23:07:05] <Kobaz> i tried doing a reinstall/reconfig: apt
install --reinstall -o
Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask,confnew,confmiss" slapd
2634 [23:07:18] <Kobaz> okay yeah so dpkg-reconfigure is working
better than that
2635 [23:07:24] <Kobaz> okay, it's doing base dn setup here,
cool
2636 [23:07:29] <mutante> nice
2637 [23:07:52] <Kobaz> i wonder if box B previously had slapd and
was half configured
2638 [23:08:51] <mutante> sounds likely
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2643 [23:09:17] <mutante> Kobaz: there is /var/log/apt/history/ if
you feel like digging more
2644 [23:09:38] <Kobaz> cool
2645 [23:09:43] <mutante> eh /var/log/apt/history.*
2646 [23:10:15] <mutante> the older ones are gzipped but you can
use "zcat" or "zgrep"
2647 [23:10:27] <Kobaz> yeah
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2649 [23:10:43] <Kobaz> for i in *gz; do zgrep....
2650 [23:10:45] <Kobaz> all that fun stuff
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2652 [23:11:13] <greycat> zgrep foo *.gz
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2656 [23:12:26] <Kobaz> that works too
2657 [23:15:07] <Kobaz> cool
2658 [23:15:22] <Kobaz> next step is re-figuring postgres backend
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2674 [23:23:22] <bernyrd> one of my cpu has bad memory channel
2675 [23:23:25] <bernyrd> can I blacklist it in scheduler
2676 [23:24:08] <teclo-> evening
2677 [23:24:46] <teclo-> I'm having issues with
debian-installer... should I ask here or is there another
appropriate channel, perhaps on another network ? There was
#debian-boot somewhere I think
2678 [23:25:03] <Kobaz>
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2679 [23:25:23] <greycat> "I'm having trouble installing
Debian" -> here. "I'm having trouble customizing
the Debian installer" -> #debian-boot on OFTC.
2680 [23:25:40] <teclo-> greycat: ok I'll ask here, thank oyu
:)
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2682 [23:26:09] <teclo-> I need to double-check the errors I got
in the logs, then I'll ask... ya know, better have all
information before asking
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2705 [23:50:42] <bernyrd> Kobaz: not super helpful, regardless of
RAM ordering there is a single CPU with so many bad reads it locks
up memtest86+
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2707 [23:50:54] <bernyrd> if I move them it is still CPU6
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2712 [23:51:54] <bernyrd> if I do it single threaded it also
works, including with the sticks I had binary searched to be the
"bad" ones
2713 [23:52:02] <bernyrd> but I can't do the whole lot
together single threaded... takes too long
2714 [23:52:06] <bernyrd> (256GB)
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2719 [23:55:56] <jhutchins_wk> bernyrd: memtest is expected to
take hours to run.
2720 [23:56:10] <bernyrd> we're talking like a week
2721 [23:56:24] <bernyrd> I could manage to do this I suppose but
the problem seems fairly obvious
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2725 [23:57:39] <teclo-> hmmm okay now I see
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2727 [23:58:24] <teclo-> well the installer fails when I select my
debian mirror
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2729 [23:58:34] <bernyrd> jhutchins_wk: the multicore test *would*
take days with the full RAM populated but if I populate that much
RAM, the issue with the bad core surfaces and memtest86+ locks up
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2731 [23:58:43] <bernyrd> without multicore it'd take a lot
longer
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2733 [23:58:50] <teclo-> it's upgrading 23 packages which are
newer than the media I'm installing from
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2735 [23:59:07] <teclo-> and it fails with "not enough space
on /var/cache/apt/archives"
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