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• 12[00:07:01] <tux_cat> what happened to links, elinks, lynx? can't find any of those in the jessie repos..
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• 17[00:08:36] <mrrhq> tux_cat: Try sudo apt-get update ? What is your sources.list?
• 18[00:08:37] <joostvb> tux_cat: replaced-url
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• 20[00:09:09] <mrrhq> Yeah, I already know elinks, lynx and links are available on Jessie.
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• 22[00:09:19] <mrrhq> Just must be some funny setup.
• 23[00:10:14] <tux_cat> and btw what is going on with chrome-stable
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• 28[00:11:45] <mrrhq> All these Chrome users...
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• 31[00:12:59] <tux_cat> here's my source list replaced-url
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• 34[00:14:25] <markybob> tux_cat: yeah that's fucked.
• 35[00:14:35] <tux_cat> markybob, why?
• 36[00:14:38] <markybob> tux_cat: you just have updates not the main
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• 38[00:14:58] <markybob> !sources.list
• 39[00:14:58] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
• 40[00:15:21] <markybob> tux_cat: see that ^
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• 43[00:15:41] <mrrhq> Yeah, instead of jessie-updates, just use jessie (or stable if you want brownie points).
• 44[00:15:53] <markybob> you need both
• 45[00:15:59] <markybob> not "instead"
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• 47[00:16:20] <tux_cat> ok thanks peeps
• 48[00:16:21] <mrrhq> markybob: Yeah, It's a good idea.
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• 50[00:16:48] <mrrhq> Mostly the security updates and the main repo is what you really need, right?
• 51[00:17:38] <mrrhq> What does stable-updates have in it that stable doesn't?
• 52[00:18:02] <mrrhq> I thought the security updates would patch stuff.
• 53[00:18:26] <markybob> mrrhq: it's what debian volatile used to be
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• 63[00:22:40] <mrrhq> Hm... Okay, so would it be wise to replace [stable]-updates with [stable]-backports if I wanted backports, or just add it in? Curious how people using Stable do it.
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• 66[00:23:15] <markybob> mrrhq: just add it
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• 71[00:25:19] <mrrhq> Aha, alright, so it's about 4 stanzas total in that setup. I've been curiously wanting to put Stable on another PC sometimes, but have more up-to-date software. I'd have no need for backports on a server.
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• 76[00:27:05] <zrnni> This is so cool !!! replaced-url
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• 99[00:39:07] <mrrhq> Linux = hacking? Whoooa duuude.
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• 102[00:41:28] <jonbryan> I blame Mr. Robot :)
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• 108[00:43:41] <voyzrd> This is so cool !!! replaced-url
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• 111[00:43:51] <voyzrd> This is so cool !!! replaced-url
• 112[00:43:56] <voyzrd> This is so cool !!! replaced-url
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• 114[00:44:00] <uptime> nope
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• 117[00:44:21] <Ozymandias117> mrrhq, I assume that's why I see so many people using kali as their desktop system >.>
• 118[00:45:18] <mrrhq> Why does Weechat not show me bans or kicks though, it just says "has quit". That's so wierd...
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• 120[00:45:49] <mrrhq> Ozymandias117: Kali is still good for pentesting, though.
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• 123[00:46:35] <somiaj> mrrhq: did you see the reason why the quit happend, in this case it was a force quit from the sever.
• 124[00:47:12] <jeezy> debian/ppc running great on a g5 powermac
• 125[00:47:14] <jeezy> Linux G5 3.16.0-4-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4 (2016-02-29) ppc64 GNU/Linux
• 126[00:48:33] <mrrhq> somiaj: Says "K-Lined" at least. Haha.
• 127[00:49:00] <mrrhq> I thought some clients specifically show you kicks or bans.
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• 129[00:49:25] <somiaj> mrrhq: that wasn't either
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• 131[00:49:34] <somiaj> mrrhq: the server k-line is different.
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• 137[00:51:12] <mrrhq> Got no response asking on #weechat yet, :T
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• 139[00:51:53] <mrrhq> somiaj: What did it show for you?
• 140[00:51:56] <somiaj> mrrhq: your client probabaly shows bans/quits, I woudnl't worry about it. That last case the k-line just happened.
• 141[00:51:59] <somiaj> mrrhq: same thing
• 142[00:52:23] <somiaj> opps, meant bans/kicks.
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• 155[00:56:11] <mrrhq> I feel stupid, now that I just tested it on myself. It works.
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• 168[01:01:26] <mrrhq> I saw that.
• 169[01:01:29] <mrrhq> :)
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• 175[01:03:21] <debianDell> is there a possibility to setup grub, that it is not seen? uefi direct boot
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• 178[01:03:54] <jeezy> could someone tell me if there is another entry that can be added to sources.list to choose a different kernel other than 3.16/4.3 ?
• 179[01:04:49] <dvs> jeezy, What kernel do you want?
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• 181[01:05:11] <jeezy> dvs: doesnt matter as long as i dont have to take the time to compile it :)
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• 183[01:05:38] <dvs> ,kernels
• 184[01:05:39] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.5.0-rc4-686 (4.5~rc4-1~exp1); sid: 4.4.0-1-686 (4.4.2-3); stretch: 4.3.0-1-686 (4.3.5-1); jessie-backports: 4.3.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.3.5-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.73-2+deb7u3)
• 185[01:05:41] <jeezy> i just need this up and going to bring to work
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• 187[01:06:11] <dvs> jeezy, and 4.3 doesn't work?
• 188[01:06:17] <themill> It sounds like you have specific requirements and are hoping that we will guess what those requirements are.
• 189[01:06:22] <jeezy> 4.3.0 approaching EOL
• 190[01:06:47] <jeezy> themill: i just dont want to use anything approaching EOL <- only requirement
• 191[01:06:57] <dvs> 3.16 was EOL a long time ago.
• 192[01:07:05] <jeezy> ill build 4.1.19, it is fine
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• 194[01:07:05] <themill> It would have been easier to state that up front
• 195[01:07:26] <themill> jeezy: 4.4 will be in jessie-backports quite soon
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• 197[01:07:38] <jeezy> themill: ah ok, thank you
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• 200[01:08:21] <jeezy> ill build 4.1.19 until such time as that arrives
• 201[01:08:28] <themill> why?
• 202[01:08:45] <jeezy> as to avoid using 4.3.0/3.16.0
• 203[01:08:51] <themill> what does that gain you?
• 204[01:09:11] <jeezy> you dont have to bully/berate me, i was only asking for help
• 205[01:09:19] <dvs> ???
• 206[01:09:38] <frazr> xD
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• 208[01:09:47] <themill> jeezy: you seem set on a course of action that doesn't seem to require you to do a lot of work for zero gain.
• 209[01:09:55] <dvs> jeezy, he's just trying to figure out why 4.1 is better
• 210[01:10:04] <themill> jeezy: You asked for advice and I'm trying to understand why you're ignoring it.
• 211[01:10:05] <jeezy> dvs: ah ok
• 212[01:10:32] <jeezy> themill: no my original question was if there was a kernel repo that contained something other than linux-image-4.3.0-0.bpo.1-powerpc64 linux-image-3.16.0-powerpc64
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• 214[01:10:40] <jeezy> there isnt, and i thank you for your help
• 215[01:10:57] <themill> there isn't because they are the best kernels debian has available at the moment
• 216[01:11:10] <jeezy> themill: okay, thank you for this information
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• 219[01:11:35] <mrrhq> For stablity at least.
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• 222[01:12:28] <mrrhq> Also very interesting to find people using powerpc64. :)
• 223[01:12:37] <jeezy> :)
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• 225[01:13:18] <jeezy> mrrhq: i have dual boot situation on here, freebsd10 and now debian
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• 228[01:15:23] <jeezy> mrrhq: do you also enjoy powerpc?
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• 230[01:15:52] <mrrhq> What's the BIOS like on PowerPC 64-bit? Is it a Mac system/UEFI?
• 231[01:16:01] <jeezy> mrrhq: OpenFirmware
• 232[01:16:22] <mrrhq> No I'm honestly just curious. I've used Linux on a few different architectures, like ARM and MIPS.
• 233[01:16:25] <jeezy> themill: is there a URL somewhere that shows the scheduling for backports ? i.e. when 4.4.0 (or anything else for that matter) will be available
• 234[01:16:40] <mrrhq> And regular PowerPC when I put Debian Linux on my Wii.
• 235[01:16:48] <mrrhq> Using homebrew.
• 236[01:16:53] <themill> jeezy: 4.4 won't be in jessie-backports until it is stretch
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• 238[01:17:10] <jeezy> hehe, I've done the FreeBSD/wii bit before (and playstation3 as well)
• 239[01:17:11] <somiaj> jeezy: backports are per the whim of the matainer. As for kernels, they are usually backported shortly after the package makes it to stretch.
• 240[01:17:20] <jeezy> somiaj: ah, thank you
• 241[01:17:25] <mrrhq> jeezy: OpenFirmware is pretty sweet, honestly.
• 242[01:17:36] <jeezy> themill: apologies for getting offended earlier, you know some channels will leave you jaded where people pick and prod instead of helping
• 243[01:17:44] <jeezy> themill: for this i apologize, and i thank you for your help
• 244[01:17:49] <jeezy> mrrhq: i love openfirmware!
• 245[01:17:51] <themill> no worries
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• 251[01:19:58] <mrrhq> A big problem I have with most laptop BIOSes is that they refuse to work when you swap out hardware, like a Wi-Fi or mobile broadband card.
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• 253[01:20:28] <mrrhq> That's why I wish I could get Libreboot or Coreboot on my Thinkpad... It's difficult to do on this model I have.
• 254[01:20:32] <jeezy> mrrhq: i have hp elitebook (freebsd) and it has been most friendly to me
• 255[01:20:41] <jeezy> using a dual ssd raid1 zfs mirror configuration there
• 256[01:20:52] <jeezy> mrrhq: nice on the thinkpad!
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• 258[01:21:13] <somiaj> should try not to drift to far away from debian support. (:
• 259[01:21:20] <jeezy> true
• 260[01:21:27] <mrrhq> #debian-offtopic
• 261[01:21:29] <mrrhq> :p
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• 290[01:36:03] <hyfrehyfre> hello good evening
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• 292[01:36:10] <frazr> heuullo
• 293[01:36:10] <hyfrehyfre> how can i deactivate my left Hot corner?
• 294[01:36:13] <hyfrehyfre> thank you
• 295[01:36:15] <hyfrehyfre> hi frazr
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• 297[01:36:20] <Azrael_-> hi
• 298[01:36:25] <hyfrehyfre> hi Azrael_-
• 299[01:36:31] <frazr> throw some water at it
• 300[01:36:35] <hyfrehyfre> lol
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• 304[01:36:39] <hyfrehyfre> please?
• 305[01:36:48] <frazr> don't understand your question
• 306[01:36:56] <hyfrehyfre> there is a hot corner on the top left
• 307[01:37:04] <hyfrehyfre> i move the mouse, the aplication menu opens
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• 309[01:37:08] <Mikaze> Anyone willing to DCC me their Jessie /etc/network/interfaces file, configured with DHCP?
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• 311[01:37:33] <frazr> native hot corners in debian isnt my speciality
• 312[01:37:53] <hyfrehyfre> but you know how deactivat them? frazr
• 313[01:37:57] <frazr> no hyfrehyfre
• 314[01:37:59] <somiaj> Mikaze: really just need one line. 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
• 315[01:38:00] <hyfrehyfre> ok
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• 317[01:38:04] <asterismo_m> hi ppl
• 318[01:38:08] <somiaj> Mikaze: put an auto eth0 if you want it brougt up at boot up
• 319[01:38:13] <hyfrehyfre> hi asterismo_m
• 320[01:38:20] <hyfrehyfre> someone please?
• 321[01:38:26] <hyfrehyfre> i love the OS just need to change that
• 322[01:38:36] <frazr> iface interface dhcp
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• 324[01:38:45] <Azrael_-> when updating from squeeze to wheezy i run into network problems. after updating ifupdown i can't get eth0 working again. error-message: Configuring network interfaces...Error: either "local" is duplicate, or "/255.255.255.255" is a garbage. interface-config: replaced-url
• 325[01:39:05] <Mikaze> Was thinking of using my interfaces file from Squeeze, but there's an allow-hotplug eth0 line inthere, too.
• 326[01:39:26] <asterismo_m> what version of g++ is in debian repos? it there any v5.3 of g++ maybe in sid?
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• 328[01:39:56] <somiaj> Mikaze: that is makes it so udev will bring up the interface if it detects you pluggin in a cat5 cable
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• 332[01:40:38] <somiaj> frazr: that netmask seems strange, shoudln't it be 255.255.255.0
• 333[01:40:59] <hyfrehyfre> i cant believe there is nowbody that can help me in here
• 334[01:41:04] <frazr> wrong person somiaj :)
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• 336[01:41:24] <Azrael_-> somiaj: even with 255.255.255.0 i get the same message
• 337[01:41:30] <somiaj> Azrael_-: or something else, unsure about your network, but 255.255.255.255 seems strange
• 338[01:41:44] <hyfrehyfre> wacko 0 ^^
• 339[01:41:51] <frazr> hyfrehyfre: if you asked the question so people would understand, maybe youre in better luck.
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• 341[01:42:15] <hyfrehyfre> i dunno, "How to deactivate the top left corner Hot Spot"
• 342[01:42:17] <Azrael_-> somiaj: it was for sending everything there, even local traffic. but not really needed any more
• 343[01:42:19] <themill> hyfrehyfre: are you asking about gnome?
• 344[01:42:41] <hyfrehyfre> this is Kali Linux themill , it is a Debian build right?
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• 346[01:43:33] <themill> hyfrehyfre: I have no idea what desktop you'd be using. Kali support is in #kali-linux.
• 347[01:43:33] <somiaj> hyfrehyfre: you are on the wrong place to get support for kali linux. This is for debian not other things that build on debian like kali
• 348[01:43:49] <hyfrehyfre> but still the OS is the same somiaj
• 349[01:43:54] <frazr> replaced-url
• 350[01:44:00] <somiaj> hyfrehyfre: no it is not
• 351[01:44:09] <mrrhq> Azrael_-: Yeah, I've never heard of a netmask of 255.255.255.255. The ones I know are from class A, B and C. so /8, /16, /24
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• 353[01:44:36] <hyfrehyfre> yes frazr i already installed that from terminal, but it wont work
• 354[01:44:38] <Azrael_-> with 255.255.255.0 i get this error message: Configuring network interfaces...Error: either "local" is duplicate, or "/255.255.255.0" is a garbage.
• 355[01:44:53] <frazr> have you restarted X
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• 357[01:44:58] <somiaj> Azrael_-: your netmask needs to match your network you are on. I don't know much more than that.
• 358[01:45:11] <hyfrehyfre> need to restart? frazr
• 359[01:45:11] <Azrael_-> somiaj: the netmask fits
• 360[01:45:19] <frazr> probably hyfrehyfre
• 361[01:45:25] <hyfrehyfre> thats sucky to say the least
• 362[01:45:31] <themill> hyfrehyfre, frazr: please take it to #kali-linux
• 363[01:45:40] <frazr> themill: its a gnome issue
• 364[01:46:02] <hyfrehyfre> is thre are any difference between gnome and debian
• 365[01:46:11] <frazr> :)
• 366[01:46:11] <mrrhq> Lol, yes, very much so.
• 367[01:46:13] <hyfrehyfre> besides both been diferent linux repartitions?
• 368[01:46:19] <themill> frazr: this #debian not #gnome.
• 369[01:46:32] <somiaj> hyfrehyfre: one is a desktop and one is an operatining system. I run debian but don't even use gnome.
• 370[01:46:33] <hyfrehyfre> there is nothing that says "Kali Linux is gnome
• 371[01:46:35] <mrrhq> I don't use GNOME, just Debian, for example. :p
• 372[01:46:41] <teraflops> huh crazy weekends
• 373[01:46:42] <mrrhq> And a window manager.
• 374[01:46:52] <hyfrehyfre> gnome is not an os?
• 375[01:46:52] <somiaj> hyfrehyfre: kali linux is a linux distro, which is different than debian, go get support from their support channel.
• 376[01:47:00] <frazr> themill: oh i see, so you can only talk about debian related topics here, i've not seen a single post about purely debian related stuff here so , shh please
• 377[01:47:04] <hyfrehyfre> ok now i need and explanation
• 378[01:47:06] <mrrhq> hyfrehyfre: Nope, it's a desktop environment.
• 379[01:47:14] <hyfrehyfre> ok
• 380[01:47:36] <themill> frazr: there is nothing debian-related about this discussion. Please desist. It's boring.
• 381[01:47:37] <hyfrehyfre> i rebooted, it didnt deactivate it, all this linux thing is too hard
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• 383[01:48:12] <frazr> themill: ok, you're allowed to have that opinion
• 384[01:48:19] <somiaj> hyfrehyfre: if you choose to run kali as your linux distro, /join #kali-linux and ask for support there.
• 385[01:48:30] <themill> frazr: two ops have asked you now.
• 386[01:48:38] <hyfrehyfre> already did people are not as active somiaj that is why im here
• 387[01:48:47] <frazr> im not even taking part of the discussion anymore :)
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• 389[01:49:19] <somiaj> hyfrehyfre: part of what you get with the kali linux software is its support community. It like calling up apple to help you with your windows os.
• 390[01:49:41] <hyfrehyfre> believe me, i type something i get answer 2 hours latter somiaj
• 391[01:49:51] <Azrael_-> when updating from squeeze to wheezy i run into network problems. after updating ifupdown i can't get eth0 working again. error-message: Configuring network interfaces...Error: either "local" is duplicate, or "/255.255.255.0" is a garbage. interface-config: replaced-url
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• 393[01:50:28] <Azrael_-> sorry for reposting, just the update with everything :)
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• 396[01:51:41] <frazr> this is #debian, not #network-configurations
• 397[01:51:41] <frazr> plz
• 398[01:51:44] <frazr> xD
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• 402[01:52:09] <teraflops> frazr: hey please stop
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• 406[01:52:53] <hyfrehyfre> could someone jump into my boat please XD
• 407[01:53:13] <hyfrehyfre> let take a ride to Kali Linux Left Hot Spot´s
• 408[01:53:16] <Mikaze> Maybe install Debian.
• 409[01:53:22] <hyfrehyfre> hohoho
• 410[01:53:26] <Azrael_-> frankie: if it was just a networking-problem, i'd be happy and already done
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• 414[01:54:30] <hyfrehyfre> so no?
• 415[01:54:35] <hyfrehyfre> nowbody wants to jump in?
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• 418[01:55:13] <somiaj> hyfrehyfre: you have been directed to where to get support for Kali.
• 419[01:55:31] <jcowgill> Azrael_- is 255.255.255.0 definitely your subnet mask?
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• 421[01:55:32] <hyfrehyfre> i have already posted my question there several minutes ago
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• 423[01:56:16] <jcowgill> if it is i think you can just remove the post-up lines and add a "gateway 172.22.0.1" line
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• 425[01:56:40] <somiaj> jcowgill: his original link had 255.255.255.255 so I'm unsure what it needs to be. Shoudln't it match the /32 in is route, though this always confused me.
• 426[01:57:31] <Azrael_-> jcowgill: it worked just fine before and also on other machines. also tried it without the post-up lines, no change. unfortunately the config itself seems buggy as just a misconfiguration would just leave the eth0 without connection but currently i can't even get it up!
• 427[01:57:34] <mrrhq> Azrael_-: Well, one thing I see is that you need /24 instead of /32 for your route.
• 428[01:58:12] <hyfrehyfre> tehre is no gnome-shell folder in this kali linux installation
• 429[01:58:16] <mrrhq> Azrael_-: Also are you sure you can't use DHCP with it?
• 430[01:58:23] <hyfrehyfre> meaning it is not gnome..
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• 433[01:59:09] <Azrael_-> mrrhq: good idea, just one minute :)
• 434[01:59:46] <jcowgill> the /32 route is redundant since it should be covered by the default route
• 435[01:59:56] <somiaj> Azrael_-: have you fully upgraded to wheezy and have no more squeeze packages on your system?
• 436[02:00:09] <somiaj> Azrael_-: care to share the output of apt-cache policy and apt-cache policy ifupdown?
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• 439[02:00:50] <somiaj> Azrael_-: this is just checking the issue isn't with version conflicts on your system. I just thought the config file looked strange so that was my initial guess, but it could be a version conflict issue too.
• 440[02:01:25] <Azrael_-> someara: still some packages missing, but as the network is broken i can't continue. also tried it and miserably failed
• 441[02:01:48] <Azrael_-> with dhcp it works. nice. now i just gotta switch back to static :)
• 442[02:01:56] <somiaj> Azrael_-: ahh so you are in a mixed state beween squeeze and wheezy and network is broken?
• 443[02:01:56] <Azrael_-> mrrhq: nice idea thnaks
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• 447[02:02:12] <mrrhq> Azrael_-: No prob. I always try DHCP first. c:
• 448[02:02:15] <Azrael_-> somiaj: correct, but before i had also finished the upgrade and ran into the same issue
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• 450[02:02:17] <somiaj> Azrael_-: you could have also tried to just manually configure the network with ip and not used the ifupdown wrapper scripts.
• 451[02:02:24] <Mr_Queue> [A
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• 453[02:02:31] <Azrael_-> somiaj: already tried without luck
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• 459[02:06:51] <Mikaze> Fargit. Guess I'll try using the dhcp config and maybe let dhcp get all the infor off the friggin router...
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• 462[02:08:59] <Mikaze> Thank you, somiaj.
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• 475[02:15:37] <psy_hack> hi
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• 477[02:15:55] <psy_hack> so i'm running the debian on android thing
• 478[02:15:58] <psy_hack> and it's pretty good
• 479[02:16:04] <psy_hack> but i want to install more fonts
• 480[02:16:19] <psy_hack> and it seems as though i can't set permissions for the fonts folder
• 481[02:16:36] <psy_hack> i tried installing font-manager but it won't run
• 482[02:16:48] <psy_hack> i can't even copy anything to the home directory
• 483[02:16:52] <psy_hack> so really it's a permissions issue
• 484[02:16:58] <psy_hack> how can i have read/write
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• 487[02:17:33] <mrrhq> psy_hack: You can put fonts in .config/fontconfig/conf.d/. There's articles on freedesktop.org about font config.
• 488[02:17:47] <psy_hack> thank you, i'll try that
• 489[02:18:01] <psy_hack> i did google a bit before i came here but there wasn't much
• 490[02:18:25] <mrrhq> Yeah, I wanted to do that myself.
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• 492[02:19:02] <mrrhq> Actually the font config files go there, not the fonts. Accourding to Freedesktop specs, the fonts should be in ~/.local/share/fonts
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• 496[02:19:59] <Azrael_-> ok, now it works with the same static network config again. strange like hell. thank god this is a vm which allows me easy recovery.
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• 498[02:20:11] <Azrael_-> thanks for the input
• 499[02:20:19] <mrrhq> psy_hack: You might have to use fc-cache ~/.local/share/fonts
• 500[02:20:20] <somiaj> Azrael_-: sounds like you were just in a strange state during the upgrade. Glad dhcp temeproally fixed it.
• 501[02:21:37] <mrrhq> Then fc-list and grep/look at the font you want.
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• 504[02:23:36] <psy_hack> yeah
• 505[02:23:48] <psy_hack> i have no root access for some reason
• 506[02:23:55] <psy_hack> i'm wondering if it's because of the virtual disk
• 507[02:24:03] <psy_hack> like
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• 509[02:24:14] <psy_hack> i have it, it says im' root, but then try to copy and it's like "no"
• 510[02:24:20] <mrrhq> psy_hack: So do you want to install the fonts system-wide?
• 511[02:24:25] <psy_hack> yes
• 512[02:24:28] <psy_hack> ideally
• 513[02:24:33] <psy_hack> but if they only work for gimp it's fine
• 514[02:24:54] <mrrhq> psy_hack: Using man fonts-conf shows you what directories you can use
• 515[02:25:02] <Azrael_-> ok, squeeze->wheezy, now up to jessie :)
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• 517[02:25:50] <mrrhq> psy_hack: And I'm guessing you would put them in either /usr/share/fonts or /usr/local/share/fonts
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• 521[02:26:58] <psy_hack> mrrhq well that's what i was trying to do
• 522[02:27:04] <psy_hack> but i don't seem to have access to those directories
• 523[02:27:41] <mrrhq> psy_hack: Do you have sudo access?
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• 525[02:29:28] <psy_hack> yes
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• 528[02:29:51] <mrrhq> psy_hack: Cool, you can use sudo -i if you want a root shell. :)
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• 531[02:31:06] <psy_hack> when i try to use CP ~/SDCARD/CHATTEMP/*.* it says /WAREHOUSE PROJECT.ttf' is not a directory
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• 535[02:31:35] <insidious> #fedora
• 536[02:31:41] <insidious> oops
• 537[02:31:43] <insidious> sorry
• 538[02:31:46] <psy_hack> NEVER
• 539[02:31:47] <cra1g321> no thanks ;)
• 540[02:31:50] <psy_hack> #DEBIAN FOREVER
• 541[02:31:57] <insidious> true
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• 543[02:32:06] <insidious> was trying to join another channel.
• 544[02:32:07] <insidious> and faild
• 545[02:32:08] <insidious> lold
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• 547[02:32:14] <psy_hack> :D
• 548[02:32:16] <mrrhq> Nice.
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• 550[02:32:23] <cra1g321> could of been worst ;)
• 551[02:32:33] * psy_hack shudders at the grammar
• 552[02:32:51] <psy_hack> you sir win 1 internet
• 553[02:33:06] <insidious> lold
• 554[02:33:20] <mrrhq> #windows
• 555[02:33:39] <insidious> EW
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• 568[02:37:45] <psy_hack> alright
• 569[02:37:46] <psy_hack> i got it
• 570[02:38:03] <psy_hack> the site i got the instructions from had a malformed cp syntax
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• 575[02:41:38] <psy_hack> yay gimp with fonts on android
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• 577[02:41:49] <psy_hack> i found that the "gimp/inkscape" package on android play sucks
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• 600[02:54:45] <VulcanRidr> I just did the dist-upgrade in sid that threw me into kde5, and now when I try to log in, I get a pop-up that says "All shell packages missing. This is an installation issue, please contact your distribution" What am I missing? I already had to manually install the sddm package.
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• 604[02:55:45] <dax> kde-plasma-desktop perhaps
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• 612[02:58:23] <mrrhq> VulcanRidr: Sadly this channel is for stable. Sid help is at #debian-next on OFTC.
• 613[02:58:41] <kunwon1> Hello- I have a systemd .service file and I need that service to start after mysql, which is started with an init script. I have added 'After=mysql.target' but no dice. Any tips?
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• 616[03:01:48] <somiaj> kunwon1: I'm not finding anything so far, does looking at systemctl status mysql help identify anything about what the service is called?
• 617[03:02:38] <kunwon1> somiaj: i see this: CGroup: /system.slice/mysql.service
• 618[03:02:49] <kunwon1> should it be After=mysql.service?
• 619[03:03:03] <somiaj> no, I was more wanting to see that it was actually being lauchned by the init.d script
• 620[03:03:18] <kunwon1> yes, it says loaded (/etc/init.d/mysql)
• 621[03:03:29] <kunwon1> and locate *.service |grep sql returns nothing
• 622[03:05:03] <somiaj> looking up After= in the systemd docs it seems that just put the unit name, so mysql.service
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• 624[03:05:40] <somiaj> .targets are just special units that are a bit more broad than being a single service has been brought up
• 625[03:06:39] <kunwon1> somiaj: that worked :) thanks!
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• 643[03:23:13] <VulcanRidr> dax: That was it. Thanks!
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• 652[03:28:44] <markybob> VulcanRidr: like mrrhq said, though, it's not supported here. so in the future please don't come here. go to #debian-next on OFTC
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• 654[03:30:07] <VulcanRidr> markybob: Nice to know.
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• 660[03:35:41] <mrrhq> Hm, why does systemd still use init.d?
• 661[03:36:18] <somiaj> mrrhq: compadability
• 662[03:36:43] <somiaj> mrrhq: it also alows matainers to support both systemd and sysvinit by only mataining an init.d script
• 663[03:37:38] <mrrhq> somiaj: Ok, thanks. Compatability is never a bad thing. :)
• 664[03:37:39] <simonlnu> compatibility ;)
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• 667[03:38:38] <somiaj> mrrhq: and as far as systemd is concerined it can run any script/command to start a service.
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• 675[03:41:06] <mrrhq> How do I check what packages systemd-sysv depends on?
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• 678[03:42:11] <mrrhq> Oh I guess it doesn't depend on anyhting, that's why I didn't see it with apt-cache show.
• 679[03:43:34] <mrrhq> I wonder what's causing all these sysvinit packages to be required.
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• 694[03:49:29] <mrrhq> Oh okay, a better question is, how do I list what packages depend on a package that I specify?
• 695[03:49:48] <mrrhq> Instead of what depends on a package.
• 696[03:50:27] <markybob> !rdepends
• 697[03:50:27] <dpkg> well, rdepends is apt-cache rdepends foo; shows you what depends on foo
• 698[03:50:49] <markybob> is that what you mean?
• 699[03:51:28] <mrrhq> markybob: Yes exactly. Thank you. :)
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• 701[03:52:15] <cra1g321> aptitude why foo might also work
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• 731[04:14:12] <hyfrehyfre> hi
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• 733[04:15:11] <Rn86> hi
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• 737[04:19:24] <tpanarch1st> hello :) im struggling a little with the chown command
• 738[04:19:37] <somiaj> tpanarch1st: what is your question.
• 739[04:19:52] <tpanarch1st> sorry just trying to formulate it in an intelligent fashion :)
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• 742[04:20:07] <tpanarch1st> in this example drwxr-xr-x 5 web1 client1 4096 Mar 6 02:06 vendors
• 743[04:20:16] <tpanarch1st> what is web 1 and client 1 doing please?
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• 745[04:20:33] <somiaj> tpanarch1st: web1 is the ower and client1 is the group.
• 746[04:20:35] <markybob> tpanarch1st: web1 is owner client1 is grouop
• 747[04:20:38] <markybob> damn
• 748[04:20:42] <tpanarch1st> oh sweet guys :-D
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• 750[04:20:52] <tpanarch1st> this is the goal - Ossn files and ossn_data directory should be owned by same user.
• 751[04:20:52] <tpanarch1st> Make sure ossn_data is readable by apache user.
• 752[04:20:55] <somiaj> tpanarch1st: every file has an owner, a group, and then everyone else. And you can configure the permisions for each of these three categories. owner, group and everyone else.
• 753[04:21:08] <markybob> tpanarch1st: in debian apache user is replaced-url
• 754[04:21:19] <dedgecumbe> this sounds like some sort of homework assignment
• 755[04:21:21] <dedgecumbe> 'make sure'
• 756[04:21:30] <tpanarch1st> hehe if only i wasn't 29
• 757[04:21:32] <tpanarch1st> :)
• 758[04:21:34] <tpanarch1st> and new to this
• 759[04:21:57] <tpanarch1st> dedgecumbe: it was forum advice for someone else :)
• 760[04:22:03] <markybob> i think dedgecumbe is right
• 761[04:22:17] <tpanarch1st> replaced-url
• 762[04:22:21] <tpanarch1st> if you check the bottom post
• 763[04:22:24] <tpanarch1st> that's what i copied :)
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• 765[04:22:39] <markybob> tpanarch1st: okay. so do you have a real question for yourself?
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• 767[04:23:01] <psy_hack> anyone here running debian on android?
• 768[04:23:09] <tpanarch1st> yeah - the first question is how do i check that the apache user is replaced-url
• 769[04:23:23] <markybob> tpanarch1st: i just told you it was
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• 772[04:23:36] <tpanarch1st> whilst i'm running debian, ispconfig usually rolls with debian default :)
• 773[04:23:47] <tpanarch1st> it just seems sensible to "make sure"
• 774[04:23:48] <tpanarch1st> :-p
• 775[04:23:50] <markybob> tpanarch1st: if you're not going to trust what we say there's no point to ask
• 776[04:23:55] <markybob> tpanarch1st: google
• 777[04:23:56] <mrrhq> psy_hack: I've been wanting to for a long time, but I haven't gotten my Galaxy Note yet. Too poor.
• 778[04:23:57] <tpanarch1st> oh goodness - I do :)
• 779[04:24:08] <tpanarch1st> it's just if something silly got changed a little by ispconfig
• 780[04:24:09] <mrrhq> That's really the only Android Device it'd be practical using it on.
• 781[04:24:17] <themill> If you're using something like ispconfig, it would be worth double checking
• 782[04:24:23] <tpanarch1st> :)
• 783[04:24:48] <psy_hack> mrrhq my only computer is a galaxy note 3 sm-n900 (exynos), and i dock it into a 41" lcd with mouse and keyboard
• 784[04:25:01] <psy_hack> i had tried the other linux on android things and they were terrible
• 785[04:25:06] <psy_hack> debian runs great!
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• 787[04:25:24] <psy_hack> xfce was my first linux gui too
• 788[04:25:26] <mrrhq> I really want the Galaxy Note 2, because I hate Odin to death. Heimdall forever.
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• 790[04:25:43] <mrrhq> But if it was really cheap, I'd go for a Galaxy Note 4 right about now.
• 791[04:25:44] <psy_hack> it's a bit slower
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• 793[04:25:50] <psy_hack> yeah skip the 3
• 794[04:25:55] <psy_hack> get the exynos note 4 though
• 795[04:26:14] <mrrhq> Does T-Mobile have it?
• 796[04:26:27] <psy_hack> mine is on tmobiles walmart plan $30/month
• 797[04:26:33] <psy_hack> 5gb data, 100 minutes talk, unlimited text
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• 799[04:26:49] <mrrhq> Well I mean does the T-Mobile one use the Exynos?
• 800[04:27:02] <psy_hack> yeah the exynos note 4 has regular lte bands
• 801[04:27:11] <psy_hack> afaik it will work ok with tmobile
• 802[04:27:29] <tpanarch1st> ok so yeah its appears to be the same - the question is how can i add apache2 without deleting the permissions already there - is that actually possible please?
• 803[04:27:29] <mrrhq> Hmm... I can't go on a plan, since I hav eno credit score. That means I can't use LTE. Lol.
• 804[04:27:38] <psy_hack> mrrhq get the walmart sim
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• 806[04:27:54] <psy_hack> $34 with tax and 1 month
• 807[04:27:54] <tpanarch1st> sorry replaced-url
• 808[04:27:56] <psy_hack> then $30 after
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• 811[04:28:08] <psy_hack> 5gb lte
• 812[04:28:26] <psy_hack> you gotta make sure to get the right one though, and when i went to get mine they were NOT helpful at all
• 813[04:28:29] <psy_hack> or just totally clueless
• 814[04:28:30] <psy_hack> or a combo
• 815[04:28:36] <mrrhq> Hm.. I need something compatible with Ting, and they said to use a T-Mobile Note 3 or Note 4.
• 816[04:28:41] <mrrhq> So I guess I'd have to do that.
• 817[04:28:42] <psy_hack> at any rate it says $30 on and "Walmart Exclusive"
• 818[04:29:00] <psy_hack> i got mine for $180
• 819[04:29:01] <markybob> tpanarch1st: what are you using doing?
• 820[04:29:04] <psy_hack> used, ebay
• 821[04:29:39] <markybob> tpanarch1st: what's your currect httpd?
• 822[04:29:46] <mrrhq> Yeah the Note 3 is getting really cheap now. I hope their next release will make the Note 4 cheaper too, because Debian chroot awesomeness.
• 823[04:29:55] <psy_hack> this was after i had the tmobile snapdragon one that i paid $280 for and that got stolen
• 824[04:30:02] <psy_hack> may whoever took it burn in hell
• 825[04:30:21] <tpanarch1st> markybob: I don't understand the question
• 826[04:30:33] <psy_hack> i have the dr. ketan rom in this one
• 827[04:30:33] <tpanarch1st> i'm using apache2 if that's what you are looking for and the user is replaced-url
• 828[04:30:39] <mrrhq> psy_hack: Ah darn. I suppose you could have called the phone company and asked them to locate it for you.
• 829[04:30:39] <psy_hack> with the latest suemax kernel
• 830[04:30:48] <psy_hack> dude
• 831[04:30:53] <psy_hack> the cops wouldn't even help me
• 832[04:30:54] <mrrhq> That's what I would do, have them shut it off.
• 833[04:30:56] <markybob> tpanarch1st: that's not what you said before. :(
• 834[04:30:56] <psy_hack> fuck philadelphia
• 835[04:30:59] <mrrhq> At least do that.
• 836[04:31:04] <tpanarch1st> markybob: i've had a look :)
• 837[04:31:05] <mrrhq> Any mobile operator can do that.
• 838[04:31:12] <psy_hack> well they didn't offer to do that
• 839[04:31:17] <psy_hack> i didn't know that was an option
• 840[04:31:19] <tpanarch1st> i searched links between ispconfig apache2 and replaced-url
• 841[04:31:19] <mrrhq> Oh man, really?
• 842[04:31:22] <psy_hack> yeah
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• 844[04:31:26] <psy_hack> the cops supposedly took my report
• 845[04:31:31] <psy_hack> and then i checked back and it was "gone"
• 846[04:31:33] <markybob> tpanarch1st: well. you need to try research before asking.
• 847[04:31:39] <psy_hack> they put me in touch with a detective
• 848[04:31:42] <markybob> tpanarch1st: this is really annoying otherwise
• 849[04:31:45] <psy_hack> and then someone stole my $20 walmart phone
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• 851[04:31:48] <psy_hack> and iwas like f this
• 852[04:31:51] <psy_hack> i'm out of here
• 853[04:32:10] <markybob> tpanarch1st: go google
• 854[04:32:31] <psy_hack> that reminds me, i need to encrypt this one ;D
• 855[04:32:36] <psy_hack> *:D
• 856[04:32:44] <tpanarch1st> <tpanarch1st> i searched links between ispconfig apache2 and replaced-url
• 857[04:33:04] <tpanarch1st> and btw markybob you made an **incorrect*** assumption I hadn't googled already
• 858[04:33:07] <markybob> tpanarch1st: that's after i told you about replaced-url
• 859[04:33:16] <tpanarch1st> you didn't ask either
• 860[04:33:21] <tpanarch1st> so I have
• 861[04:33:34] <markybob> /ignore
• 862[04:33:41] <tpanarch1st> whilst i'm well aware of smart questions
• 863[04:33:47] <tpanarch1st> he should be bloody aware of smart answers
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• 870[04:36:16] <mrrhq> I went off topic again. Welp.
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• 875[04:40:33] <tpanarch1st> mrrhq: it's clearly better than being on topic :)
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• 987[05:39:52] <locrian9> What config file would be setting my directories to show up highlighted when I have "drwxrwxrwx" settings applied? I want to change the highlight color, because when I'm sshed into this Debian machine, the highlighted backgroud (light blue) is too close to the forground text color (light-dark blue).
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• 989[05:40:44] <petemc> your terminal
• 990[05:42:10] <locrian9> what directory and name?
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• 992[05:42:31] <petemc> pwd
• 993[05:42:49] <themill> locrian9: what terminal are you using to ssh?
• 994[05:43:00] <locrian9> I'm using urxvt.
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• 997[05:44:53] <dedgecumbe> locrian9: $LS_COLORS environment variable; .bashrc/.bash_profile look for ls --color alias
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• 1002[05:46:43] <themill> that doesn't change the colour; that's a urxvt setting
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• 1008[05:49:02] <locrian9> dedgecumbe: Yes, in my .bashrc I've got the line "alias ls='ls --color=auto'
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• 1014[05:50:37] <dedgecumbe> themill: well the RGB values of the terminal colour codes are urxvt settings, but the terminal colour codes chosen are ls's problem, no?
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• 1018[05:51:42] <dedgecumbe> locrian9: it sounds like either you can kill that alias (or try /bin/ls) and have no colours, or blob around in $LS_COLOURS and perform the necessary incantation to change that colour specifically
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• 1024[05:54:36] <themill> When you've only got a handful of colours to pick from, you need to change the colour name→RGB mapping, not randomly pick other colour names
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• 1029[05:58:06] <locrian9> dedgecumbe: I'll search around and see if there's some changes to do into $LS_COLOURS. It was kind of annoying to get my .Xresources setup how I like it on my local machine, and then start remoting ssh into machines and see this highlighting on drwxrwxrwx directories. If I could just change that setting for highlighting drwxrwxrwx directories, that would be fine for now...
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• 1031[05:59:05] <locrian9> themill: I appreciate your insight here as well.
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• 1033[06:00:26] <petemc> locrian9: you can tell ssh to source a file that would set variables to your liking
• 1034[06:00:35] <petemc> ~/.ssh/config
• 1035[06:00:36] <apt> i heard /.ssh/config is much easier :)
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• 1041[06:02:38] <plasmoduck> How do I install the free flash plugin? Whats the name of it?
• 1042[06:04:08] <dedgecumbe> plasmoduck: gnash?
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• 1045[06:05:46] <plasmoduck> Not in my ports
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• 1105[06:50:24] <plasmoduck> .
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• 1120[06:55:32] <hiya> plasmoduck, how to input cron job for Debian?
• 1121[06:55:36] <hiya> for a particular user?
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• 1127[06:58:24] <dedgecumbe> hiya: crontab -e ?
• 1128[06:58:26] <dedgecumbe> as that user
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• 1132[07:00:07] <hiya> dedgecumbe, is it Vixie's Cron on Debian ?
• 1133[07:00:12] <hiya> or other one?
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• 1136[07:00:22] <dedgecumbe> wat
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• 1139[07:00:46] <hiya> dedgecumbe, there are two crons?
• 1140[07:00:51] <hiya> Vixie-cron
• 1141[07:00:55] <hiya> ?
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• 1143[07:01:17] <hiya> replaced-url
• 1144[07:01:19] <hiya> dedgecumbe, ^
• 1145[07:01:23] <hiya> which one debia use?
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• 1147[07:02:20] <hiya> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
• 1148[07:02:28] <hiya> dedgecumbe, ^ can you check if it would work with Debian 8?
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• 1260[08:12:35] <karstensrage> im having trouble installing scratch
• 1261[08:12:47] <karstensrage> its wont select and install softare
• 1262[08:12:57] <karstensrage> i can ping ftp.us.debian.org from the vm
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• 1274[08:18:09] <kirklimbu> does anyone know how to install skype on debian?
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• 1278[08:19:39] <TomTomTo1> kirklimbu, replaced-url
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• 1282[08:20:16] <karstensrage> seems to be a systemd
• 1283[08:20:17] <karstensrage> problem
• 1284[08:20:25] <karstensrage> ive heard such terrible things about systemd
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• 1291[08:21:43] <TomTomTosch> karstensrage, what does systemd have to do with installing a package?
• 1292[08:21:56] <TomTomTosch> karstensrage, post the error you get to paste.debian.net please.
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• 1302[08:26:21] <TomTomTosch> karstensrage, to speed this up, post your /etc/apt/sources.list too.
• 1303[08:26:47] <karstensrage> ok i posted the error to paste.debian.net
• 1304[08:27:07] <TomTomTosch> karstensrage, you need to give me the url it generated :P
• 1305[08:27:19] <karstensrage> replaced-url
• 1306[08:27:52] <karstensrage> im not sure how to get my /etc/apt/sources.list
• 1307[08:27:58] <karstensrage> but it looks normal
• 1308[08:28:17] <TomTomTosch> karstensrage, can you tell me how you wanted to install scratch?
• 1309[08:28:43] <TomTomTosch> karstensrage, scratched is packaged for debian. all you need to do is apt-get install scratch.
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• 1311[08:29:06] <TomTomTosch> s/scratched/scratch
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• 1313[08:29:26] <karstensrage> replaced-url
• 1314[08:29:40] <karstensrage> i downloaded the amd64 .iso
• 1315[08:29:53] <karstensrage> attached to a virtualbox vm
• 1316[08:30:10] <karstensrage> tried the i386 as well, same issue
• 1317[08:30:20] <TomTomTosch> ah, you want debian testing.
• 1318[08:30:26] <karstensrage> im sorry
• 1319[08:30:29] <karstensrage> i meant stretch
• 1320[08:30:48] <TomTomTosch> you don't use the installer for that. you install debian jessie and upgrade to testing.
• 1321[08:31:00] <TomTomTosch> the testing installer is for testing the installer :P
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• 1323[08:31:21] <karstensrage> hmmm
• 1324[08:31:29] <karstensrage> is jessie debian 8
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• 1326[08:31:36] <TomTomTosch> yes, it's the current stable.
• 1327[08:32:01] <TomTomTosch> !debian-next
• 1328[08:32:01] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
• 1329[08:32:16] <TomTomTosch> karstensrage, also, testing support is over there ^ :P
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• 1334[08:39:58] <jeezy> to anyone with similar use case, have debian8.3.0 here for powerpc64 (g5powermac7,3) and my lsi 3080x sas card and my 3ware amcc 9550sx-12 sata 12port card are both working great!
• 1335[08:40:11] <jeezy> an area in which freebsd had failed me
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• 1363[08:57:35] <Phreya> Hey. I've been trying to install firmware-ipw2200 on my x40, followed the official debian website, added the source.list, apt-get update, but coudln't find that package
• 1364[08:57:38] <Phreya> what should I do
• 1365[08:58:33] <Phreya> oh, that's literally 2x00, I thought I need to change that X. thanks, it works now
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• 1392[09:22:20] <Hayettin> is it possible to make an persisten debian live usb stick with LUKS on boot encryption?
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• 1436[09:54:53] <JyZyXEL> how do you install packages from mentors.debian.net?
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• 1442[09:58:30] <somiaj> JyZyXEL: any paticular package you are looking for?
• 1443[09:58:43] <JyZyXEL> somiaj: yes, replaced-url
• 1444[09:59:27] <somiaj> ,v lirc
• 1445[09:59:28] <judd> Package: lirc on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.8.3-5; wheezy: 0.9.0~pre1-1; jessie: 0.9.0~pre1-1.2; stretch: 0.9.0~pre1-1.2; sid: 0.9.0~pre1-1.2
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• 1449[10:00:38] <JyZyXEL> the url is replaced-url
• 1450[10:00:42] <JyZyXEL> but how does one install that?
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• 1452[10:01:22] <somiaj> JyZyXEL: unsure exactly, replaced-url
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• 1454[10:01:38] <JyZyXEL> how do i do that?
• 1455[10:01:41] <somiaj> JyZyXEL: there is also #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net, someone there may have more info, but all I'm seing is source packages.
• 1456[10:02:36] <nkuttler> JyZyXEL: apt-get -b
• 1457[10:03:39] <JyZyXEL> $ apt-get -b
• 1458[10:03:41] <JyZyXEL> E: Command line option 'b' [from -b] is not known.
• 1459[10:04:07] <JyZyXEL> the manual does list it as a known option though
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• 1462[10:04:28] <JyZyXEL> $ apt-get --build
• 1463[10:04:30] <JyZyXEL> E: Command line option --build is not understood
• 1464[10:04:56] <somiaj> JyZyXEL: unsure if you can add a deb-src for mentors.debian.net/debian or not. If you can add it as a deb-src package you maybe able to just do that.
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• 1466[10:05:24] <somiaj> JyZyXEL: otherwise you may need to download lirc_0.9.4~pre1.orig.tar.gz (the source) and lirc_0.9.4~pre1-1.3.debian.tar.xz (debian patches)
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• 1468[10:06:30] <somiaj> but I'd ask in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net and see if someone there knows more about the repo (seems more it is a place to pool fixes before they get uploaded)
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• 1486[10:25:02] <T4ng10r> hi
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• 1488[10:25:19] <T4ng10r> I've plugged Android smartphone to PC, with activated debug USB module
• 1489[10:25:33] <T4ng10r> usbmount didn't mount it
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• 1511[10:35:37] <linnakk> Hi, I'd like to know which repos needed for sid. 1. main 2. updates 3. security-updates
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• 1513[10:36:03] <linnakk> A sources list generator generated these three but i heard sid need only main
• 1514[10:36:22] <linnakk> And always dist-upgrade and never upgrade
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• 1606[11:36:34] <_abc_> replaced-url
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• 1608[11:36:47] * _abc_ should cross post in #android-dev
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• 1611[11:37:20] <donoban> hi, I added deb replaced-url
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• 1617[11:38:48] <donoban> can I get some debug output about it?
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• 1635[11:47:18] <jradd> or does dpkg.log have anything
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• 1638[11:48:39] <donoban> it has some info about installing sourcefabric-keyring
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• 1642[11:49:21] <jradd> no errs tho
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• 1645[11:50:55] <donoban> no :(
• 1646[11:50:56] <jradd> when installing airtime, were you presented with a "gui" to configure?
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• 1648[11:51:19] <donoban> I did same steps on ubuntu (where them work) and on debian jessie
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• 1652[11:52:13] <donoban> I downloaded a setup-easy.deb from their website, then I did, dpkg -i easy-setup.deb, it failed because it needs some deeps, then I did apt-get -f install, It installed all debs and setup the airtime repository
• 1653[11:52:22] <donoban> then I did, apt-get update && apt-get install airtime
• 1654[11:52:32] <donoban> last step worked fine on ubuntu, but I get package not found on debian
• 1655[11:52:40] <jradd> sounds like you should be missing dependencies
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• 1658[11:53:05] <donoban> let me see what says apt-get update on ubuntu
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• 1661[11:53:54] <jradd> you said 'it failed for missing deps,' forcing the install is not going to resolve those deps.
• 1662[11:53:58] <donoban> Hit replaced-url
• 1663[11:54:11] <donoban> it says Hit instead Ign
• 1664[11:54:19] <donoban> all deps were installed then doing apt-get -f install
• 1665[11:54:27] <jradd> oh
• 1666[11:54:51] <jradd> and postgres is installed ?
• 1667[11:54:52] <donoban> it seems that my debian doesn't like the repository
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• 1669[11:55:07] <jradd> yeah it looks that way
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• 1671[11:55:36] <donoban> I don't have postgre on both, maybe it's using mysql
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• 1673[11:56:14] <jradd> the installer doc says it uses postgres
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• 1675[11:57:13] <donoban> oh yes I have it
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• 1680[11:57:54] <jradd> can you do `dpkg-reconfigure airtime` ?
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• 1682[11:58:02] <jradd> to reconfigure
• 1683[11:58:47] <donoban> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: airtime is not installed
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• 1685[11:59:04] <jradd> and what version of debby?
• 1686[11:59:13] <donoban> on moment please, come back in few minuets
• 1687[11:59:18] <donoban> last stable, 8.3?
• 1688[11:59:30] <donoban> yes 8.3
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• 1691[12:00:22] <jradd> Does package exist for jessie ?
• 1692[12:00:27] <jradd> or is it backport
• 1693[12:00:44] <jradd> i would bet that is the problem
• 1694[12:00:44] <paxcoder> What do I troubleshoot when videos are muted on a certain site accessed through iceweasel, but not when downloaded and played in eg. totem?
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• 1696[12:01:17] <jradd> probably flash?
• 1697[12:01:25] <paxcoder> jradd: no, i don't use flash
• 1698[12:02:25] <jradd> html5 then I guess. does youtube work?
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• 1700[12:03:15] <paxcoder> jradd: youtube is fine, that's the thing
• 1701[12:03:21] <jradd> ohhh
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• 1703[12:03:27] <jradd> hmm
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• 1706[12:03:43] <jradd> i guess try another browser
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• 1709[12:04:05] <jradd> chromium maybe ? sorry not much help there i know...
• 1710[12:04:16] <paxcoder> jradd: i'm confident that another browser will work. Heck, this browser worked fine yesterday. Not sure what I could have done that survived a reboot.
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• 1713[12:05:29] <donoban> jradd: It is not part of debian, I'm trying to use their custom repository
• 1714[12:05:31] <jradd> i guess you could try another user, but again that would probably work too
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• 1716[12:06:24] <donoban> but I don't know why apt-get ignores the repo
• 1717[12:06:59] <paxcoder> jradd: how do i do that?
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• 1719[12:07:32] <paxcoder> jradd: oh you mean another OS user
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• 1727[12:08:51] <jradd> paxcoder: yeah, i suspect the profile is fudged or something, since you say it persisted reboot
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• 1732[12:09:50] <jradd> donoban: Try uninstalling sourcefabric-keyring, updating, reinstall sourcefabric and then update again? I don't see where you found this easyinstall.deb file
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• 1738[12:11:13] <donoban> after uninstalling sourcefabric-keyring
• 1739[12:11:22] <donoban> I have a Hit, but a GPG error
• 1740[12:11:24] <donoban> Hit replaced-url
• 1741[12:11:25] <donoban> Ign replaced-url
• 1742[12:11:25] <donoban> Fetched 3220 B in 1s (2294 B/s)
• 1743[12:11:25] <donoban> Reading package lists... Done
• 1744[12:11:25] <donoban> W: GPG error: replaced-url
• 1745[12:11:25] *** donoban was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please use replaced-url
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• 1747[12:11:41] <donoban> wops
• 1748[12:11:43] <jradd> hehe
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• 1750[12:12:01] <donoban> I'm gonna try to manually add the public key
• 1751[12:12:40] <donoban> this is the easy setup deb: replaced-url
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• 1758[12:14:57] <meoblast001> hello
• 1759[12:15:20] <meoblast001> i have an old system running squeeze and i'm trying to upgrade it to wheezy. the problem is that during dist-upgrade i get this: initscripts : Breaks: nfs-common (< 1:1.2.5-3) but 1:1.2.2-4squeeze2 is to be installed
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• 1762[12:17:04] <tux_cat> wget replaced-url
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• 1764[12:17:32] <tux_cat> what's wrong with chrome's .deb server?
• 1765[12:17:39] <jradd> nmeoblast001: unless you are using initscripts, uninstall it
• 1766[12:17:47] <towo`> tux_cat, nothing
• 1767[12:17:59] <towo`> tux_cat, there is no 32bit chrome anymore
• 1768[12:17:59] <tux_cat> towo`, i can't download it
• 1769[12:18:02] <tux_cat> lol
• 1770[12:18:04] <ewew> tux_cat Looks they have some issues with the servers.
• 1771[12:18:05] <nkuttler> tux_cat: ask google
• 1772[12:18:13] <towo`> ewew, no
• 1773[12:18:15] <tux_cat> ..
• 1774[12:18:19] <tux_cat> you trolls
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• 1776[12:18:29] <towo`> tux_cat, no
• 1777[12:18:49] <tux_cat> how do I get luakit on jessie?
• 1778[12:18:57] <ewew> tux_cat I get from browser 404 error.
• 1779[12:19:03] <mms_> I am have Linux debianmiten 3.16.0-4-586 #1 Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 (2015-08-04) i686 GNU/Linux and now want to src build linux 4.4.4 kernel but there is no make command available so reading suggested to install build-essential but apt says no candidate.
• 1780[12:19:24] <meoblast001> jradd: to my knowledge i am not
• 1781[12:19:35] <meoblast001> i guess i could uninstall it and then reinstall after i'm upgraded
• 1782[12:19:41] <tux_cat> luakit?
• 1783[12:19:51] <towo`> ewew, there is no 32bit repo anymore
• 1784[12:19:59] <jradd> meoblast001: yeah, you could do that. But I don't think that is a default package
• 1785[12:19:59] <towo`> tux_cat, it's not in jessie
• 1786[12:20:06] <tux_cat> where is it
• 1787[12:20:08] <towo`> tux_cat, it's in testing and sid
• 1788[12:20:17] <tux_cat> argh
• 1789[12:20:18] <mms_> jessie how to install build-essential then ?
• 1790[12:20:30] <tux_cat> how do i get just luakit?
• 1791[12:20:30] <ewew> towo` oops. sorry. i did not realize it.
• 1792[12:20:31] <meoblast001> hm apparently nfs-client is what i need to remove
• 1793[12:20:53] <tux_cat> without the testing libs
• 1794[12:20:56] <nkuttler> mms_: debianmiten?
• 1795[12:21:06] <mms_> thats just my hostname
• 1796[12:21:10] <meoblast001> jradd: i get that same error when removing initscripts strangely
• 1797[12:21:17] <meoblast001> is nfs-client the one i need to remove?
• 1798[12:21:21] <nkuttler> !tell mms_ about jessie sources.list
• 1799[12:21:21] <mms_> I am using vbox
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• 1802[12:22:26] <jradd> meoblast001: try removing nfs-client then
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• 1806[12:23:34] <meoblast001> okay thanks. now it's working
• 1807[12:24:06] <msl09> I'm getting a failed return value on boot for the ntp.service
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• 1810[12:24:20] <mms_> nkuttler: what about deb-src
• 1811[12:24:24] <msl09> how do I get the error message?
• 1812[12:24:53] <nkuttler> mms_: do you want to build packages from source?
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• 1814[12:25:13] <grawity> msl09: systemctl status ntp
• 1815[12:25:22] <mms_> linux kernel 4.4.4 want to compile
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• 1817[12:25:28] <nkuttler> ,kernels
• 1818[12:25:29] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.5.0-rc4-686 (4.5~rc4-1~exp1); sid: 4.4.0-1-686 (4.4.2-3); stretch: 4.3.0-1-686 (4.3.5-1); jessie-backports: 4.3.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.3.5-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.73-2+deb7u3)
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• 1821[12:26:21] <nkuttler> mms_: tbh, i'd go with upstream sources
• 1822[12:26:25] <nkuttler> !tell mms_ about kernel handbook
• 1823[12:26:32] <msl09> yeah systemd is only giving me not so useful messages
• 1824[12:26:33] <msl09> replaced-url
• 1825[12:26:36] <mms_> kernel.org shows 4.4.4 can I not use that ? I am just reading linux device drivers and it uses 2.6.10 but I thought why not just try to compile 4.4.4
• 1826[12:26:55] <nkuttler> mms_: sure, you can build any kernel you want
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• 1828[12:27:24] <mms_> nkuttler: ok I thought to just pick kernel from kernel.org and see
• 1829[12:27:31] <mms_> ok then deb-src what to use ?
• 1830[12:27:41] <nkuttler> !tell mms_ about deb-src
• 1831[12:27:55] <msl09> replaced-url
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• 1835[12:29:23] <tux_cat> can you guys give me a working .deb of stable chrome for jessie??
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• 1837[12:29:41] <tux_cat> it's a matter of great importance and survival
• 1838[12:29:56] <r6ku> use chromium
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• 1841[12:30:23] <tux_cat> i don't want the chromiums. i want them stable chromes.
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• 1845[12:31:36] <bencc> is there a package that includes the papyrus font?
• 1846[12:31:51] <towo`> tux_cat, you would only get an old version
• 1847[12:31:58] <tux_cat> i don't mind
• 1848[12:32:11] <towo`> and you don't get any security updates anymore
• 1849[12:32:17] <tux_cat> what happened to stable tho.. it really got discontinued?
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• 1851[12:32:42] <ewew> 32 bit version is no longer available.
• 1852[12:32:57] <tux_cat> why though
• 1853[12:33:19] <tux_cat> so weird.. on windowz there's only a 32bit binary
• 1854[12:33:30] <mms_> I hope localmodconfig option will be safe option to build this new kernel expecting it to pickup all existing modules.
• 1855[12:33:34] <ewew> because most computers systems are 64 bit.
• 1856[12:33:45] <towo`> tux_cat, not rure
• 1857[12:33:51] <towo`> *true
• 1858[12:34:07] <towo`> in windows there es even a 64bit chrome
• 1859[12:34:08] <tux_cat> blimey.. so even installing chromium wouldnt make sense as it will stop too?
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• 1864[12:34:37] <towo`> tux_cat, why you use a 32bit linux?
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• 1867[12:35:04] <tux_cat> i'm on an old eeepc, it's got a 32bit chip
• 1868[12:35:34] <towo`> use a real computer not such toy :P
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• 1870[12:35:58] <tux_cat> define "real"
• 1871[12:36:07] <tux_cat> everything is 1010100001011
• 1872[12:36:17] <tux_cat> so me no cares
• 1873[12:36:43] <tux_cat> so what are my options then
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• 1875[12:36:54] <tux_cat> cant get chrome, cant get luakit..
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• 1879[12:37:26] <tux_cat> :(
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• 1881[12:38:20] <tux_cat> btw, how do i remove the google chrome apt key
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• 1900[12:44:19] <sine0> whats the difference between inetd and init.d
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• 1903[12:44:40] <sine0> does one initiate daemons and the other one prep the network
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• 1907[12:45:20] <grawity> inetd is a regular daemon whose primary feature is to act as a "superserver"
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• 1911[12:45:43] <grawity> i.e. it listens for connections at many ports at once, and starts whatever service (ftpd, sshd, etc.) is needed
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• 1927[12:51:15] <sine0> so if i dont have inetd installed on a machine what could be taking its place ?
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• 1932[12:52:16] <grawity> xinetd
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• 1934[12:52:19] <grawity> or, systemd
• 1935[12:52:43] <grawity> why are you asking, anyway?
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• 1940[12:54:15] <klys> can I report an invalid gpg signature at replaced-url
• 1941[12:54:24] <sine0> because im playing with different linux versions and not all are the same as debian (obviously) but i was curious
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• 1956[13:02:10] <sine0> sysV !
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• 1960[13:03:01] <Eduard_Munteanu> sine0, there might not even be an inetd installed by default
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• 1963[13:03:59] <grawity> oh yeah also that
• 1964[13:04:15] <grawity> it was a quite rare thing in the past decade actually
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• 1966[13:04:33] <grawity> with most daemons handling sockets on their own
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• 1970[13:04:55] <sine0> stat /sbin/init > sbin/init
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• 1972[13:05:05] <sine0> dpkg -S /sbin/init
• 1973[13:05:19] <sine0> sysvinit: /sbin/init
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• 1975[13:05:30] <sine0> so there we go
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• 1979[13:07:27] <grawity> just don't confuse init with inetd
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• 1981[13:07:40] <grawity> although systemd has both functions, in sysv they're entirely separate
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• 1991[13:14:11] <mms_> I hope localmodconfig option will be safe option to build this new kernel expecting it to pickup all existing modules.
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• 1994[13:14:50] <mms_> and for all questions its asking I press enter like RCU expert level and it brings up few question and says (NEW)
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• 2009[13:20:47] <mms_> probably make oldconfig is better option ?
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• 2012[13:21:11] <mms_> I did localmodconfig and it asked too many questions
• 2013[13:21:25] <mms_> I blindly did yes to all
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• 2015[13:21:37] <mms_> any ways once done should I do modinstall
• 2016[13:21:44] <mms_> if any issue how to rollback ?
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• 2018[13:22:30] <markybob> mms_: no you shouldn't. you should read the handbook. replaced-url
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• 2029[13:28:39] <plasmoduck_> Hey guys I installed Debian with Gnome and then enabled multiarch in sources.list for i386 so I could install steam. I downloaded a game and ran it but it said OpenGL is not responding and crashed
• 2030[13:28:45] <mms_> markybob: ok mkae deb-pkg
• 2031[13:28:49] <plasmoduck_> Does that mean I need the proper Nvidia driver?
• 2032[13:29:11] <mms_> markybob: and I should just use make oldconfig for safety
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• 2034[13:29:18] <mms_> and then make deb-pkg
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• 2037[13:29:40] <markybob> mms_: yes
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• 2039[13:30:40] <mms_> ok thanks
• 2040[13:30:54] <mms_> but how to preserve old image so I can point to it if any thing wrong
• 2041[13:31:00] <mms_> or to say old kernel
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• 2044[13:31:20] <markybob> mms_: grub will still list the old kernel. it won't replace. you can pick which to boot to
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• 2046[13:31:29] <mms_> ok
• 2047[13:31:49] <towo`> plasmoduck_, do we know your hardware?
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• 2050[13:32:14] <towo`> plasmoduck_, and for 32bit games under 64bit os you need the 32bit glx libs
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• 2063[13:42:59] <drizzt> hi all
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• 2065[13:43:42] <drizzt> binutils-arm-* are broken in version 2.26-4
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• 2067[13:44:12] <drizzt> unable to get anything running on my target
• 2068[13:44:28] <drizzt> (ARM Cortex-M0)
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• 2070[13:45:11] <mms_> markybob: make oldconfig also prompted me to lot of questions. I did not manually copy any cnofig file.
• 2071[13:45:12] <drizzt> running fine with 2.25-5+5+b1
• 2072[13:45:52] <drizzt> (and previous ones for the last two years)
• 2073[13:45:55] <mms_> it could not do make deb-pkg on outside the src dir so I had to do make oldconfig again
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• 2075[13:46:20] <markybob> mms_: why not? 4.6 told you to
• 2076[13:46:41] <markybob> mms_: if you're not going to follow the docs i give you i don't know how i can help
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• 2081[13:47:39] <markybob> mms_: i guess a more important question at this point is to ask why you're doing this?
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• 2083[13:48:08] <tux_cat> how do i remove google chrome stable? i don't see an entry in the repos
• 2084[13:48:27] <towo`> apt purge google-chrome
• 2085[13:48:29] <tux_cat> W: Failed to fetch replaced-url
• 2086[13:48:29] <tux_cat> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
• 2087[13:48:59] <markybob> tux_cat: dpkg --purge google-chrome-stable will do it
• 2088[13:49:06] <towo`> remove the list-file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
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• 2090[13:49:36] <tux_cat> towo`, what purge actually do and how is it different to apt-get remove?
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• 2093[13:49:50] <towo`> tux_cat, read the manpage
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• 2095[13:50:13] <markybob> tux_cat: it removes config files. but yes, please read the manpages. it gets annoying.
• 2096[13:50:36] <tux_cat> alright..
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• 2139[14:12:03] <plasmoduck_> How can I get a search icon for applications in my Gnome top bar next to the networking, sound, power icons?
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• 2156[14:21:30] <humbot> you can press the windows key or just use the hot corner and start typing
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• 2180[14:28:55] <plasmoduck_> humbot, but besides that, I want a search button like the Apple OSX spotlight
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• 2182[14:29:10] <lenswipe> hey guys
• 2183[14:29:38] <lenswipe> so...windows7 has a backup/recovery tool that lets you backup the data and a system image to a custom location (I generally use a UNC path) is there a similar utility for debian?
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• 2185[14:31:02] <BinBasher> lenswipe: do you have gpt?
• 2186[14:31:08] <lenswipe> gpt?
• 2187[14:31:22] <lenswipe> "GUID Partition Table (GPT)"
• 2188[14:31:25] <lenswipe> -Google]
• 2189[14:32:16] <dedgecumbe> lenswipe: linux is sufficiently well formed that backing up doesn't require a block level image
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• 2191[14:32:17] <BinBasher> lenswipe: what's the partition table of your disk?
• 2192[14:32:27] <lenswipe> how do i find out?
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• 2195[14:33:11] <BinBasher> check in disks
• 2196[14:33:20] <dedgecumbe> lenswipe: you can copy everything in /, preserving permissions, to another partition, and it will boot if you point a bootloader at that partition
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• 2198[14:34:17] <lenswipe> i have a slightly complex setup...
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• 2200[14:34:31] <lenswipe> i have /home on a 1TB RAID1 aray
• 2201[14:34:38] <lenswipe> everything else on an SSD
• 2202[14:34:43] <BinBasher> lenswipe: efi?
• 2203[14:34:49] <lenswipe> no
• 2204[14:35:09] <dedgecumbe> lenswipe: then perhaps it makes sense to rsync --exclude=/home to one place and rsync /home to another (for example, you might use another tool than rsync)
• 2205[14:35:26] <dedgecumbe> that's what I do, I don't really bother with a backup of /, there's nothing there that I need
• 2206[14:35:30] <lenswipe> i dont think my NAS has an rsync server on it...
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• 2208[14:35:45] <lenswipe> can I rsync to a shamba share somehow?
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• 2211[14:36:20] <dedgecumbe> i don't know anything about samba (my 'nas' is just a machine with some disks in it), sorry
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• 2213[14:36:32] <lenswipe> oh ok
• 2214[14:36:37] <lenswipe> unraid? :)
• 2215[14:36:43] <lenswipe> freenas/unraid*
• 2216[14:37:18] <dedgecumbe> it's not as complicated as this, i just have a standard headless linux distro running on the machine with shell
• 2217[14:37:29] <dedgecumbe> -> sshfs, rsync, etc, all works for what I need it for
• 2218[14:37:35] <dedgecumbe> with an ssh server *
• 2219[14:37:42] <lenswipe> ah
• 2220[14:37:53] <dedgecumbe> the same machine is used for multiple things as it's quite beefy
• 2221[14:38:07] <dedgecumbe> probably would make sense for me to set up VMs on there, but it works for now
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• 2223[14:38:25] <lenswipe> yeah, esxi mebbe
• 2224[14:39:06] <dedgecumbe> i generally can't be arsed to learn whole new systems of doing things because it just feels like needless abstraction
• 2225[14:39:09] <sypher> Or set up a KVM box.
• 2226[14:39:19] <dedgecumbe> sypher: yeah, i have arch running libvirt/qemu/kvm
• 2227[14:39:35] <CutMeOwnThroat> samba doesn't preserve unix file permissions. you can copy stuff on it, but it a recipe for disaster if there's anything system-like on it
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• 2229[14:39:50] <dedgecumbe> i just haven't seperated some of the 'servery' tasks, it probably makes sense to make the 'NAS' bit a VM that is just assigned the drives
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• 2231[14:40:34] <dedgecumbe> at the moment the host OS does that, it's a bit less secure, but i generally don't feel that's a relevant consideration
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• 2234[14:41:06] <dedgecumbe> e.g. if someone gets access to all of my personal data do I actually care that they have code execution? you've already won
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• 2240[14:42:06] <JyZyXEL> dedgecumbe: replaced-url
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• 2242[14:42:21] <dedgecumbe> JyZyXEL: pretty much
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• 2244[14:43:21] <dedgecumbe> privilege seperation on desktop computers.... it's a bit like, having a padlock on my electricity cabinet so that someone can't turn off the breakers
• 2245[14:43:31] <dedgecumbe> but they can still cover the house in petrol and burn it down
• 2246[14:43:36] <dedgecumbe> brilliant
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• 2249[14:44:46] <grawity> well OTOH
• 2250[14:44:55] <grawity> burning down the house kinda needs actual malicious intent
• 2251[14:45:06] <grawity> whereas so many breakers have been turned off accidentally
• 2252[14:45:18] <grawity> or for the lulz
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• 2256[14:46:21] <grawity> like I *kinda* trust my family members to not smash my PC into pieces, but I don't trust them enough to believe that they won't try to poke around my files
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• 2260[14:47:46] <dedgecumbe> grawity: yeah, the analogy doesn't really fully hold. i guess I just have an ideological problem with the idea of privilege escalation being an issue given the way most systems are actually used. with actual sandboxing/proper privileges on data, it's meaningful
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• 2263[14:48:26] <JyZyXEL> i just learned about the package called 'logcheck' that emails you about suspicious log activity
• 2264[14:48:28] <dedgecumbe> basically the fact that I can read an arbitrary file anywhere on my FS from my irc client means the root user is barely more powerful
• 2265[14:48:52] <JyZyXEL> installed it and immediately started getting emails about all the people that are hammering my sshd with attempts to login
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• 2267[14:49:34] <dedgecumbe> then again, i am currently using an irc client inside a vm, it would suck to have an escalation break out of the VM and onto the host
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• 2269[14:49:59] <JyZyXEL> serves as a nice reminder that people and bots are _constantly_ trying to take your over
• 2270[14:50:16] <grawity> a nice reminder as to why we can't have nice things.
• 2271[14:50:24] <dedgecumbe> grawity: i think it's actually the opposite
• 2272[14:50:30] <dedgecumbe> it's a constant source of amazement that we have nice things
• 2273[14:51:09] <grawity> personally I'm constantly amazed that all those things work at all
• 2274[14:51:12] <dedgecumbe> yes!
• 2275[14:51:19] <grawity> in the "software is crap" sense, that is
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• 2278[14:51:30] <dedgecumbe> software is crap, hardware is crap, everything is crap, but it works :)
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• 2280[14:52:01] <JyZyXEL> kinda sorta works with really bad security
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• 2285[14:53:20] <dedgecumbe> I think I've managed to come to peace with it by considering security to be a feature that has costs and benefits much like anything else
• 2286[14:53:34] <dedgecumbe> e.g. is it bad that within an X session programs can basically keylog each other
• 2287[14:53:49] <dedgecumbe> yes and no, there are reasons that you would want to do that
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• 2289[14:54:23] <dedgecumbe> and the time spent trying to eliminate all of these vectors.. you'll never be 100% and you could design new features
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• 2291[14:55:00] <JyZyXEL> nuke everything and start over from scratch with security in mind :E
• 2292[14:55:36] <dedgecumbe> and then you end up with something like a smartphone, which is still insecure, but has totally gimped functionality
• 2293[14:55:46] <dedgecumbe> :)
• 2294[14:55:57] <dvs> dedgecumbe, any system that's 100% security will also be 100% unuseable
• 2295[14:56:19] <dedgecumbe> yep
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• 2300[14:58:04] <JyZyXEL> so it just boils down to the amount of miserable people in the world looking to screw others over
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• 2302[14:58:21] <JyZyXEL> the less there are people like that, the less we need security
• 2303[14:58:32] <dvs> yup
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• 2309[15:01:57] <dedgecumbe> so we focus on making people happy :)
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• 2322[15:05:39] <Tuplanolla> My system froze while resuming from suspend again and there's a line with 3552 null bytes in /var/log/syslog at that point. What could be the cause of this?
• 2323[15:07:56] <jelly> Tuplanolla: filesystem rounding up the file size to full block (4096B) after crash
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• 2327[15:08:31] <Tuplanolla> Oh, I see. Alas there's no other indication of things going wrong.
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• 2346[15:16:48] <AlexPortable> d-i preseed/late_command string in-target wget -O /root/install.zip "replaced-url
• 2347[15:16:58] <AlexPortable> is this correct way to downlopad file and unpack it to /root/ during installation?
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• 2378[15:31:53] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, why not use auto mode? see: replaced-url
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• 2380[15:32:26] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, and /root is not the correct place for the storage i believe
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• 2385[15:35:00] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, asuming a netboot install
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• 2397[15:37:37] <AlexPortable> why not correct place?
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• 2399[15:37:55] <AlexPortable> dutchfish: auto mode? this is file to be downloaded to the system right after install
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• 2402[15:38:20] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, well, i thought you needed preseeding
• 2403[15:38:35] <AlexPortable> i am using preseeding
• 2404[15:38:40] <AlexPortable> but this is the last commadn in the preseed file to download some files
• 2405[15:38:42] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, given that, its 'during' install
• 2406[15:39:13] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, as far as i know / is there allright
• 2407[15:39:50] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, but at that time, all is not written out to disk
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• 2409[15:40:01] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, see the d-i docs
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• 2416[15:42:01] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, i am not 100% sure with the latest installer tho
• 2417[15:42:12] <AlexPortable> okay thanks
• 2418[15:42:19] <dutchfish> yw
• 2419[15:42:21] <AlexPortable> and some other problem; installer asks me where to install bootloader
• 2420[15:42:27] <AlexPortable> every time i have to manually type /dev/sda now
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• 2425[15:42:48] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, that can be pre-seeded as well, again latest d-i docs
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• 2428[15:43:31] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, unless there is only one free space available, then it automagically attaches to that
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• 2434[15:43:54] <AlexPortable> d-i partman-auto/init_automatically_partition select biggest_free
• 2435[15:43:55] <AlexPortable> this?
• 2436[15:44:06] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, with newer hw, thats hardly the case
• 2437[15:44:10] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, yup
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• 2443[15:46:21] <Linnak> Hi, how can I install krita on sid? it has a couple of dependencies
• 2444[15:46:21] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, there is a #d-i channel btw, if this is beyond stable
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• 2446[15:47:08] <AlexPortable> wheezy
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• 2448[15:47:29] <dutchfish> !tell AlexPortable about stable
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• 2450[15:48:15] <TomTomTosch> !debian-next
• 2451[15:48:15] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
• 2452[15:48:19] <TomTomTosch> Linnak ^
• 2453[15:48:20] <AlexPortable> ah
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• 2457[15:49:46] <towo`> Linnak, and the procedure is the same as in all debian versions, apt install krita
• 2458[15:49:53] <AlexPortable> Finishing installation - Running preseed 16%
• 2459[15:49:58] <AlexPortable> any way I can get a status update on this whats going on?
• 2460[15:50:29] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, not during install time, inless presseed a verbose
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• 2463[15:50:45] <dutchfish> unless*
• 2464[15:51:17] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, all in the docs
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• 2473[15:55:33] <plasmoduck> Hi I just installed steam through the multiarch i386 sources and installed a game, when I ran it I got an error OpenGL i not responding
• 2474[15:55:46] <plasmoduck> Is that cause I need proprietary NVidia drivers?
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• 2478[15:56:52] <towo`> plasmoduck, no, you do noot "need" it
• 2479[15:57:02] <dutchfish> AlexPortable, need to run, good luck
• 2480[15:57:06] <towo`> you need the 32bit glx libs for your running driver
• 2481[15:57:23] <plasmoduck> How do I get that towo` ?
• 2482[15:57:33] <towo`> plasmoduck, and if you do not have a nvidia card, the nvidia driver would not help many
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• 2484[15:57:43] <AlexPortable> dutchfish: thanks
• 2485[15:57:47] <plasmoduck> I have a GTX550
• 2486[15:58:06] <towo`> plasmoduck, then it now runs with nouveau i think
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• 2488[15:58:34] <towo`> apt install libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 would install the 32bit libs for nouveau
• 2489[15:58:34] <plasmoduck> towo`, Whats the 32bit glx libs package I need?
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• 2491[15:58:55] <plasmoduck> libgl1-nvidia-glx-i386 - NVIDIA binary OpenGL 32-bit libraries
• 2492[15:58:56] <plasmoduck> ?
• 2493[15:59:06] <towo`> plasmoduck, but if you want performance, you can install nvidia-driver and libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386
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• 2495[15:59:26] <plasmoduck> Okay how do I install the nvidia-driver the easy way?
• 2496[15:59:34] <towo`> plasmoduck, blind?
• 2497[15:59:46] <towo`> plasmoduck, apt install nvidia-driver libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386
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• 2506[16:01:43] <plasmoduck> How do I know if im running xorg or wayland?
• 2507[16:02:10] <towo`> you are running xorg, you can believe that
• 2508[16:02:15] <nkuttler> plasmoduck: if you have to ask you're not running wayland
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• 2511[16:02:34] <plasmoduck> I chose it in the installation of debian
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• 2513[16:02:49] <plasmoduck> gnome-wayland or something I seen
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• 2516[16:02:56] <nkuttler> plasmoduck: did you use the testing installer or something?
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• 2518[16:03:18] <plasmoduck> Yes
• 2519[16:03:27] <plasmoduck> Minimal net-install
• 2520[16:03:44] <nkuttler> plasmoduck: cat /etc/debian_version
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• 2523[16:04:23] <plasmoduck> stretch/sid
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• 2525[16:05:01] <plasmoduck> Okay I need to reboot, brb
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• 2527[16:05:02] <nkuttler> plasmoduck: for support you should use #debian-next on oftc. that being said, check your env vars for anything wayland-related
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• 2546[16:10:00] <plasmoduck_> Okay I finished the nvidia driver install, rebooted, loaded the game again and same opengl error
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• 2550[16:11:45] <TomTomTosch> plasmoduck_ you are still in the wrong channel.
• 2551[16:11:51] <TomTomTosch> !debian-next
• 2552[16:11:51] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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• 2558[16:14:46] <AlexPortable> chmod cannot access /root/archive/*.bash' no such file or directory
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• 2560[16:14:50] <AlexPortable> how cna i fix this in preseed?
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• 2578[16:22:54] <DebTest4> hello :) someone can help me with unbound test? :O
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• 2582[16:23:40] <DebTest4> i'm trying to setup the dns server to ask everything he doesn't know to opendns but isn't working
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• 2587[16:25:38] <grawity> what does your Unbound config look like?
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• 2589[16:25:52] <DebTest4> grawity: this one replaced-url
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• 2591[16:26:15] <grawity> I dunno if it accepts inline comments; move the "# OpenDNS" to another line just in case?
• 2592[16:26:24] <DebTest4> grawity: i just installed it and i want just to check if it can resolve by forwarding the things
• 2593[16:27:01] <DebTest4> grawity: on the man page they use it replaced-url
• 2594[16:27:39] <grawity> okay
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• 2599[16:28:53] <DebTest4> grawity: this is what happens: replaced-url
• 2600[16:29:21] <DebTest4> grawity: it shows the question but there's no answer :\
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• 2603[16:31:41] <paxcoder> TomTomTosch: I disagree with you and the factoid.
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• 2605[16:32:34] <paxcoder> TomTomTosch: well, you mostly.
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• 2609[16:34:18] <AlexPortable> anyone?
• 2610[16:34:23] <DebTest4> AlexPortable: there
• 2611[16:34:28] <AlexPortable> xD
• 2612[16:34:38] <AlexPortable> I downloaded a folder during preseed
• 2613[16:34:48] <AlexPortable> wget the file to /root/
• 2614[16:34:56] <AlexPortable> but now when i enter shell the file isnt there
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• 2616[16:35:41] <paxcoder> What is preseed?
• 2617[16:35:47] <grawity> DebTest4: have you checked the unbound logs?
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• 2622[16:37:29] <AlexPortable> wait i think it works now
• 2623[16:37:48] <Fjorgynn> ;)
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• 2629[16:38:45] <DebTest4> grawity: i'm struggling to find them
• 2630[16:38:57] <DebTest4> grawity: i said him to log into var/log
• 2631[16:39:01] <DebTest4> but i can't find it
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• 2633[16:40:32] <digitalb_> Hi guys, I've a question: how can I prevent Debian from changing the console font during the boot procedure? It has something to do with the framebuffer perhaps? Thank you! [Debian 8 64bit, BIOS boot (non EFI/UEFI)]
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• 2635[16:41:06] <paxcoder> So what's preseed?
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• 2637[16:41:28] <markybob> !preseed
• 2638[16:41:28] <dpkg> [preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process, to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The <install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding with a full example. See replaced-url
• 2639[16:41:45] <paxcoder> thanks
• 2640[16:42:02] <DebTest4> grawity: it seems that unbound requires a more powerful config
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• 2649[16:46:34] <DebTest4> Mar 6 15:42:48 box unbound: [1791:0] info: failed to prime trust anchor -- DNSKEY rrset is not secure . DNSKEY IN
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• 2655[16:49:18] <DebTest4> grawity: found the problem ;)
• 2656[16:49:41] <DebTest4> grawity: the auto-trust-anchor-file
• 2657[16:49:46] <DebTest4> option
• 2658[16:49:53] <DebTest4> that one broke everythin
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• 2661[16:50:18] <smacnay> Is the youtube-dl app being updated in the repository (last version date I see is for 2014) or should I install from source and update manually?
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• 2663[16:51:16] <r6ku> smacnay: you can get a newer version from backports
• 2664[16:51:25] <smacnay> Ah, thanks.
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• 2778[17:43:30] <poffs> hey how do i view my terminal history again? where is it?
• 2779[17:43:43] <poffs> DebTest4, I had that issue; still have another issue lol
• 2780[17:43:45] <markybob> poffs: .bash_history
• 2781[17:44:05] <Tuplanolla> Likely ~/.${SHELL}_hist* for other variants.
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• 2783[17:44:26] <poffs> markybob, thanks
• 2784[17:44:30] <DebTest4> poffs: i see
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• 2860[18:13:48] <debianDell> dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Keine Berechtigung. dconf will not work properly.
• 2861[18:14:05] <debianDell> got this error 1.1gb in syslog!
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• 2870[18:16:26] <debianDell_> anybody could help?
• 2871[18:16:56] <TomTomTosch> debianDell_, what are you trying to do?
• 2872[18:17:06] <debianDell_> nothing
• 2873[18:17:16] <debianDell_> its in my syslog
• 2874[18:17:26] <debianDell_> installed debian jessie on my new SSd
• 2875[18:17:44] <zorgan> hi everyone. I'm trying to use nvidia-legacy-304xx in an old laptop but X is not starting
• 2876[18:17:46] <debianDell_> and the old one is connected with an icybox
• 2877[18:18:01] <zorgan> apparently it only starts if I run startx as root
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• 2880[18:18:19] <TomTomTosch> debianDell_, what's the ownership of /run/user/1000 and /run/user/1000/dconf ?
• 2881[18:18:20] <debianDell_> TomTomTosch: got 2 times a freeze. no restart with tty1 ...
• 2882[18:18:23] <zorgan> from what I gathered, /dev/nvidia* devices are not created until I run startx as root
• 2883[18:18:37] <zorgan> and when they are created, they belong to root:root
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• 2885[18:19:07] <debianDell_> ls -lsah /run/user/1000
• 2886[18:19:09] <debianDell_> ls: Zugriff auf /run/user/1000/gvfs nicht möglich: Keine Berechtigung
• 2887[18:19:17] <hexnewbie> zorgan: Do you get the same problem when you use a DM?
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• 2889[18:19:36] <TomTomTosch> debianDell_, do it as root.
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• 2891[18:19:58] <zorgan> systemd keeps respawning gdm3 (did not try with lightdm)
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• 2894[18:21:00] <hexnewbie> zorgan: Maybe you could try adding an udev rule that creates /dev/nvidia* with some sane ownership (maybe root:video rw-rw----?) and load the nvidia legacy modules from /etc/modules
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• 2896[18:21:24] <zorgan> hexnewbie: I've already tried the /etc/modules part abd didn't work
• 2897[18:21:42] <hexnewbie> zorgan: Also if your card requires nvidia-legacy, perhaps you could use nouveau instead.
• 2898[18:21:44] <debianDell_> replaced-url
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• 2900[18:21:56] <zorgan> hexnewbie: and as far as I can tell /lib/udev/ already includes udev rules for the creation of those devices
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• 2902[18:22:28] <zorgan> hexnewbie: that's what I am doing at the moment, but nouveau is still not up to par with the non-free drivers when it comes to Nvidia
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• 2904[18:23:04] <hexnewbie> zorgan: As far as I can tell, when I log in to my X session, something runs setfacl on my /dev/dri/renderD128 and adds my user to it.
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• 2906[18:23:47] <zorgan> hexnewbie: udev rules are part of replaced-url
• 2907[18:24:04] <debianDell_> TomTomTosch: got never such a problem with debian
• 2908[18:24:17] <zorgan> hexnewbie: are you under systemd?
• 2909[18:24:29] <debianDell_> used it on old SSD for more than 1 year
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• 2911[18:24:37] <debianDell_> reinstall debian?
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• 2915[18:24:45] <zorgan> hexnewbie: is it possible that the legacy drivers do not support the new "user mode Xorg"?
• 2916[18:24:55] <hexnewbie> zorgan: Yes. Also, and that's ugly duck tape, you could load the modules and chown/chmod/setfacl the device files in rc.local...
• 2917[18:25:17] <hexnewbie> zorgan: Are you running jessie? My X is running as root
• 2918[18:25:40] <TomTomTosch> debianDell_, how does this affect your system?
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• 2920[18:25:51] <zorgan> hexnewbie: I've installed Jessie and dist-upgraded to Sid
• 2921[18:26:02] <hexnewbie> zorgan: And I would believe that this would be very likely, I would have doubts if the *new* NVIDIA drivers support KMS, let alone the legacy ones
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• 2923[18:26:09] <towo`> zorgan, you propably need xserver-xorg-legacy
• 2924[18:26:44] <zorgan> towo`: I was unaware of the existence of that package
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• 2926[18:26:56] <zorgan> towo` and hexnewbie: give 5mn to test the legacy xorg
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• 2934[18:29:33] <hexnewbie> zorgan: Also sid? I would personally keep it down at testing if I found stable too old for my needs.
• 2935[18:29:43] <TypoNAM> Question regarding upgrading from Squeeze LTS to Wheezy. On the LTS/Using wiki page it suggests I do "apt-get install apt -t wheezy" however that'll remove a lot of packages I want to keep that I don't want to remember to reinstall afterwards. Is installing apt before "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" really that necessary? Cause it isn't stated to do that in the full Squeeze to
• 2936[18:29:43] <TypoNAM> Wheezy upgrade release notes documentation.
• 2937[18:30:24] <debianDell_> Mar 6 11:00:23 Inspiron-7537 gnome-session[2443]: (gnome-shell:2865): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Keine Berechtigung. dconf will not work properly.
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• 2939[18:30:35] <kjevle> Hi! I need some help. I have an ext4 formatted harddrive of which df says there is no available space although the amount used is about 5% less than its size (again according to df). The hdd contains a lot of hard links (it's used for rsnapshot backups), but even when I delete folders with no hard links, a lot less space becomes available that what is actually removed. Only 2% of the Inodes are used, so tha
• 2940[18:30:41] <kjevle> t can't be the problem.
• 2941[18:30:46] <debianDell_> TomTomTosch: thousend of this entries
• 2942[18:31:01] <frostschutz> kjevle, root reserve 5%?
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• 2950[18:34:17] <zorgan> hexnewbie: that would probably have been a good idea... I might reconsider a downgrade later on
• 2951[18:34:49] <kjevle> frostschutz: That seems to be the reason. Thank you!
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• 2960[18:36:42] <zorgan> towo`: nice catch! it worked! :D
• 2961[18:36:51] <smilenname> hello
• 2962[18:37:15] <zorgan> thanks towo` and hexnewbie
• 2963[18:37:19] <smilenname> hello
• 2964[18:37:21] <smilenname> i have two questions for one pc,
• 2965[18:37:25] <smilenname> 1. at that pc, sound is very bad
• 2966[18:37:27] <smilenname> sound card is onboard
• 2967[18:37:29] <smilenname> replaced-url
• 2968[18:37:33] <smilenname> i try install from realtek driver but take error message
• 2969[18:37:35] <smilenname> replaced-url
• 2970[18:37:39] <smilenname> i want any help
• 2971[18:37:43] <smilenname> 2. i try install geany-gtk3 from tarball and take this error message
• 2972[18:37:45] <smilenname> replaced-url
• 2973[18:37:48] <zorgan> one other question: how does one go to the recovery shell in systemd when root account is locked?
• 2974[18:37:49] <smilenname> can not find msgfmt, what programs should I install for msgfmt?
• 2975[18:37:53] <smilenname> Thank you all from now for any help
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• 2990[18:41:28] <hexnewbie> smilenname: Geany is available in Debian. You can install apt-file and use apt-file search to find msgfmt (that's part of gettext). If you want to file the compilation dependencies of a program and it is already available in Debian, "apt-get build-dep <source package>" will install them for you.
• 2991[18:42:42] <TomTomTosch> smilenname, you try to compile a realtek driver for your intel soundcard?
• 2992[18:42:46] <smilenname> thx
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• 2994[18:43:44] <smilenname> yes i want compile driver for intel soundcard
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• 2998[18:45:08] <hexnewbie> smilenname: Also to compile drivers you need the source of the kernel, or at least the headers, e.g. linux-headers-amd64 (also linux-source-3.16 if full source is required, which is unlikely). The actual package name depends on your architecture, and kernel version for the sources
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• 3000[18:45:32] <TomTomTosch> i don't think that's what they want to do...
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• 3002[18:45:53] <TomTomTosch> *should
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• 3004[18:46:15] <hexnewbie> smilenname: It might be more useful to share what do you mean by "sound is very bad", I find it unlikely that a driver outside the tree would work better
• 3005[18:47:10] <hexnewbie> smilenname: You also have the option of picking a backports kernel, but only after you're certain that's the problem
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• 3008[18:48:27] <somiaj> it could be the model for the sound driver wasn't auto detected correctly, there are ways to modify this depending on what actual codec is being used.
• 3009[18:48:40] <towo`> this realtek-audio-pack is stone old
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• 3015[18:49:56] <smilenname> the sound pack pack coming
• 3016[18:49:58] <smilenname> or sounds the melody but not the singer
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• 3018[18:50:17] <towo`> what?
• 3019[18:50:42] <smilenname> have normal melody but not the singer
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• 3021[18:50:59] <hexnewbie> smilenname: Is that a 5.1 mix?
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• 3024[18:51:54] <smilenname> no, is stereo
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• 3026[18:52:14] <smilenname> with two speaker
• 3027[18:52:36] <somiaj> but is your sound card in some 5.1 mode?
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• 3029[18:53:13] <hexnewbie> Well, if the mix is stereo, it's unlikely to have channels without singer - sounds like a frequency issue to me
• 3030[18:53:17] <hexnewbie> smilenname: You may try installing linux 4.3 from jessie-backports, maybe it will support your card better.
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• 3033[18:54:01] <hexnewbie> smilenname: Also what's your player? did you try another player? Are you sure you haven't turned on voice removal plugin or something?
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• 3035[18:54:52] <smilenname> i try the default video player and vlc
• 3036[18:55:24] <TomTomTosch> what about youtube videos?
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• 3041[18:56:27] <smilenname> in any applications the sound is not normal
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• 3043[18:57:05] <somiaj> I'd still suggest figuring out what codec you are actually using and seeing if there are options to configure it differently. Sometimes those onboard sound cards need a little prod for the driver to use it in the right node.
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• 3047[18:58:27] <hexnewbie> smilenname: I retract my suggestion for a newer kernel, your board appears to be 8 years old :)
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• 3053[18:59:59] <smilenname> yes i start try
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• 3055[19:00:15] <smilenname> very thx all
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• 3057[19:00:19] <smilenname> :)
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• 3060[19:01:45] <TypoNAM> apt-get dist-upgrade causes "E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'mysql-client-5.5'" and the release note's workaround doesn't work.
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• 3065[19:02:38] <TypoNAM> as "apt-get dist-upgrade -o APT::Immediate-Configure=0" takes no effect and proceeds with the same error
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• 3082[19:08:54] <plasmoduck> How can I make my VPN auto connect when lan connects? Im using gnome and network-manager.
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• 3087[19:10:34] <debianDell_> Is samsung EVO 850 not usable with linux???
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• 3091[19:13:04] <somiaj> debianDell_: what makes you think that? Look up the actual hardware to see if it is or not.
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• 3093[19:13:29] <somiaj> plasmoduck: network-manager has some vpn plugins, use the correct one, then I think you can configure network mager to use the vpn correctly
• 3094[19:13:43] <somiaj> plasmoduck: you may ahve to install the vpn plugin you need for the type of vpn you are conencting to
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• 3108[19:22:05] <BinBasher> Is there anything to open an accdb file in debian?
• 3109[19:22:22] <jelly> accdb?
• 3110[19:22:34] <TomTomTosch> debianDell_, if you are still having the same problem as earlier, you have forgotten to show us ls -l /run/user/1000/dconf
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• 3112[19:23:22] <BinBasher> jelly: microsoft access database I believe
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• 3114[19:23:38] <TomTomTosch> debianDell_, i think somethink has messed up ownership. maybe you ran something as root that you should not have.
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• 3118[19:25:48] <BinBasher> jackcess should work, but it's not in a repo, I'll try it
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• 3134[19:30:42] <BinBasher> nope I'm stuck
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• 3178[19:55:31] <hiya> Can you tell me, why cannot I download wget -O - replaced-url
• 3179[19:55:38] <hiya> on new debian server
• 3180[19:55:49] <hiya> I hate to do
• 3181[19:56:11] <hiya> dpkg --configure -a
• 3182[19:56:11] <dpkg> hiya: have you tried replaced-url
• 3183[19:56:14] <hiya> to even start
• 3184[19:56:38] <ledufakademy> hi does anybody know an ide like visual studio (gui designer , code autompletion etc) ? i want to quickly developp gnome 3 applications .
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• 3187[19:57:26] <TomTomTosch> hiya, their cert expired.
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• 3191[19:58:01] <hiya> TomTomTosch, you getting that error too?
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• 3193[19:58:27] <TomTomTosch> hiya, you can open the url in browser and get a bit more info.
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• 3196[19:59:03] <hiya> TomTomTosch, What should I do about it now?
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• 3202[20:01:21] <TomTomTosch> hiya, i don't want to give advice on that, as i'm not sure about the effect on security. maybe someone else here. you can send the owner of that site a mail though.
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• 3205[20:01:34] <hiya> TomTomTosch, I did
• 3206[20:01:35] <hiya> thanks
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• 3269[20:28:34] <joqmos> Hello! Just wondering, what is the GTK theme used in the latest Debian graphical installer?
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• 3279[20:32:47] <grawity> I think all the installers use gtk2 with Clearlooks?
• 3280[20:33:02] <joqmos> It looks different though
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• 3282[20:33:28] <b3d0u1n> Hi guys. I'm running Debian Squeeze and intend to keep doing so until the world comes to an end. The machine is firewalled and I am its only user. Anyway, I was wondering how I should cleanup my sources.list so that I can still grab software through apt-get. Should I just preface everything squeeze-related with archive.debian.org/debian/. Here is the list: replaced-url
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• 3291[20:36:23] <somiaj> b3d0u1n: correct, the squeeze and squeeze-lts packages will be put on archive.debian.org
• 3292[20:36:39] <b3d0u1n> cool
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• 3301[20:40:31] <b3d0u1n> So basically, lines 3-7 can just be replaced with "deb replaced-url
• 3302[20:40:45] <b3d0u1n> ?
• 3303[20:40:56] <somiaj> I think so, I don't use archive.debian.org so not positive.
• 3304[20:41:09] <somiaj> and squeeuze looks wrong
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• 3306[20:41:21] <b3d0u1n> lol
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• 3311[20:42:25] <karlpinc> b3d0u1n: Looks right to me, but I also have not tried it.
• 3312[20:43:09] <karlpinc> b3d0u1n: You might also consider an air-gap between it and the Internet, except when otherwise necessary.
• 3313[20:43:34] <b3d0u1n> I think backports should still be maintained though
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• 3319[20:45:26] <karlpinc> b3d0u1n: The deal with backports that some random person makes a promise to keep up with problems. So, YMMV. (No mention of how long that promise is to last, whether until the next stable, as long as long term support, or forever.)
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• 3324[20:48:18] <b3d0u1n> the amusing thing is that i have 3 VMs running on the Squeeze machine: two running wheezy and one running jessie
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• 3327[20:48:38] <b3d0u1n> i installed those for stuff i couldn't get running under squeeuze
• 3328[20:48:40] <b3d0u1n> squeeze
• 3329[20:49:30] <TomTomTosch> do you want to tell us the reason for this insanity? :3
• 3330[20:49:42] <b3d0u1n> well, that's not entirely the reason.
• 3331[20:50:26] <b3d0u1n> just a growth that's been happening since 2010 that i do not have the time to really rebuild from scratch
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• 3335[20:51:24] <b3d0u1n> i had a machine running lenny still on line until a few months ago
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• 3337[20:52:03] <karlpinc> b3d0u1n: Have you considered following the release notes and upgrading to the next stable version? Much eaiser than rebuilding.
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• 3341[20:52:58] <karlpinc> (Unless of course you've been abusing your system and not following good administration practices.)
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• 3344[20:53:36] <b3d0u1n> i could try, but i would have a lot of downtime until every got worked out.
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• 3350[20:54:50] <karlpinc> b3d0u1n: In my experience, things keep running. (Except when they dont. :-) Mostly they do.
• 3351[20:55:14] <karlpinc> b3d0u1n: The upgrade process is designed to minimize downtime.
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• 3353[20:55:47] <b3d0u1n> karlpinc: i'm always a good admin for the first few years, then ....
• 3354[20:55:53] <b3d0u1n> it's sort of like marriage
• 3355[20:55:58] <b3d0u1n> always loyal for the first couple years.. then
• 3356[20:56:16] <karlpinc> b3d0u1n: That's why you upgrade. A new stable comes out every few years. :-)
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• 3358[20:57:08] <b3d0u1n> i upgraded to wheezy a couple years ago actually, but it made something bad happen with ps3mediaserver at the time so i downgraded
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• 3360[20:57:25] <b3d0u1n> (i.e., just untarred my backup)
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• 3364[20:58:44] <jhutchins> It's good to see someone who's a little skeptical about "latest is bestest".
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• 3366[20:59:33] <jhutchins> Also makes backups before upgrading.
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• 3368[21:00:12] <b3d0u1n> i'll probably upgrade after the hard drive with the backup tar catches onf ire
• 3369[21:00:13] <b3d0u1n> fire
• 3370[21:00:23] <b3d0u1n> along with the working one
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• 3377[21:02:57] <b3d0u1n> Anyway... I love Debian.
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• 3379[21:03:55] <hexnewbie> b3d0u1n: You could use chroots and not VMs
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• 3385[21:05:11] <b3d0u1n> hexnewbie: the two wheezy VMs handle some networking tasks on a different gateway than the squeeze machine... so it was just a lot easier to go the VM route
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• 3389[21:06:40] <b3d0u1n> hexnewbie: One wheezy machine is always connected to a VPN and provides a privoxy/squid http proxy through that VPN for my entire network, along with a socks proxy for other stuff.
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• 3401[21:10:28] <b3d0u1n> it's a convoluted setup that's evolved over the years... the digital equivalent of a networking closet full of tangled cables that only one man can make sense of
• 3402[21:11:27] <figlfdev> doesnt that describe pretty much every successful piece of software ever?
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• 3404[21:11:38] <b3d0u1n> the lowly celeron running all those VMs keeps chugging along :)
• 3405[21:12:04] <figlfdev> except of course, more people always find some way to understand it
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• 3423[21:17:59] <testing223> hi I cant to install grub2 to lvm2 /dev/sda, recieving message "unable to identify filesystem", why?
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• 3426[21:18:13] <testing223> I'm installing by debootstrap
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• 3431[21:18:32] <testing223> help me pls
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• 3433[21:19:02] <figlfdev> there you go. hth.
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• 3440[21:21:38] <b3d0u1n> thanks guy
• 3441[21:21:40] <b3d0u1n> s
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• 3455[21:26:48] <lemma> hey
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• 3462[21:29:28] <testing223> hi I cant to install grub2 to lvm2 /dev/sda, recieving message "unable to identify filesystem", why?
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• 3484[21:35:40] <sir_> .
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• 3487[21:35:59] <hexnewbie> testing223: You have a PV on /dev/sda directly, and a LV inside? No any partitions?
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• 3489[21:36:49] <hexnewbie> testing223: I would expect that to not work, but for another reason (and thus another error message) - no place to install grub. Although I still think grub2 should handle the LVM itself without an issue IIRC
• 3490[21:36:57] <testing223> PV on /dev/sda, VG = VG, LV = root,swap,boot
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• 3494[21:37:28] <Akuw> hi, i am trying to download replaced-url
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• 3496[21:37:37] <Akuw> that file is 1.6GB, but only download 512 and show file as downloaded
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• 3498[21:37:44] <Akuw> show no errors
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• 3508[21:39:11] <hexnewbie> testing223: Where would you be trying to install grub?
• 3509[21:39:33] <testing223> Im trying to install to /dev/sda
• 3510[21:40:01] <hexnewbie> testing223: And that's a PC grub, not EFI grub?
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• 3512[21:40:09] <hexnewbie> testing223: I mean, BIOS grub
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• 3515[21:40:32] <testing223> grub-pc version 2.02 beta as I see
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• 3517[21:40:54] <testing223> PC/BIOS
• 3518[21:41:01] <testing223> I think it is not uefi
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• 3523[21:42:46] <hexnewbie> testing223: I don't think that's possible - there won't be enough free space to embed grub.
• 3524[21:43:05] <testing223> and what to do
• 3525[21:43:13] <hexnewbie> testing223: Create partitions
• 3526[21:43:16] <sine0> anyone old enough to tell me why there is mount and umount but its not u(n)mount
• 3527[21:43:33] <testing223> I'l try now
• 3528[21:43:36] <Azrael_-> sine0?
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• 3530[21:44:10] <hexnewbie> testing223: And I would put /boot in a partition, to avoid other issues with that. (Can't recall if grub2 supports it on LVM, but just to be sure)
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• 3533[21:44:28] <sine0> Azrael_-: well it should be unmount righ?
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• 3537[21:44:49] <Azrael_-> sine0: here it is "umount"
• 3538[21:45:22] <sine0> Azrael_-: bless you, reread what i wrote
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• 3541[21:46:27] <Azrael_-> perhaps a virus/trojan or something else messing with your installation? e.g. looking up if there are some strange symlinks or checking the md5sums with the original package-files?
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• 3549[21:49:38] <TomTomTosch> there was a six-character limitation for filenames in early unix versions. the name umount carried over.
• 3550[21:49:41] <jaggzt> How do I see what packages came from a particular repository in my sources?
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• 3553[21:49:48] <sine0> TomTomTosch: Thank you.
• 3554[21:49:53] <jaggzt> TomTomTosch, that's really interesting
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• 3556[21:50:50] <jaggzt> perl did "elsif" .. which is just sad.
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• 3560[21:51:36] <sine0> thats 5
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• 3563[21:51:53] <jaggzt> I think I recall Larry Wall, in an interview, said that's one of his biggest regrets
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• 3569[21:53:46] <testing223> hexnewbie: I deleted LVM partition by fdisk command, but blkid still shows old lvm partitions, what can I do?
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• 3574[21:56:47] <Azrael_-> testing223: did you stop lvm before deleting the partition?
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• 3576[21:56:59] <hexnewbie> testing223: You said you had no partitions? You need to deactivate the LVM (vgchange -yn VG), and then use pvremove to wipe the LVM from the disk.
• 3577[21:57:09] <testing223> no, I wanted to test to remove by fdisk before lvremove and etc.
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• 3579[21:57:43] <jaggzt> Err replaced-url
• 3580[21:57:43] <jaggzt> 404 Not Found [IP: 128.61.240.89 80]
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• 3583[21:57:51] <Azrael_-> ok, so you intentially mixed up the correct order :)
• 3584[21:57:58] <jaggzt> hmm.. how do I find a backports mirror that handles jessie?
• 3585[21:58:24] <TomTomTosch> jaggzt, you can just pick any official mirror.
• 3586[21:58:43] <jaggzt> TomTomTosch, two I've tried from replaced-url
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• 3588[21:58:55] <testing223> now I cant pvcrate with error - partition is mounted
• 3589[21:59:09] <testing223> but it not mounted
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• 3591[21:59:17] <jaggzt> TomTomTosch, oh do you mean my official official mirror for main, contrib, etc. should work too?
• 3592[21:59:23] <testing223> and blkid prints me old LVM disks
• 3593[21:59:33] <jaggzt> TomTomTosch, gotcha.. thanks :)
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• 3596[22:00:32] <jaggzt> TomTomTosch, should I have these security.debian.org sources too?
• 3597[22:01:04] <hexnewbie> testing223: Also, if you are using GPT partition scheme, you need BIOS boot partition (1 MB) for BIOS or an EFI system partition for EFI.
• 3598[22:01:41] <hexnewbie> testing223: msdos partition table doesn't need the former because it has free space before the first partition
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• 3600[22:01:54] <TomTomTosch> jaggzt, if you want you can just view the mirror with your browser and go into the dist folder. you should see the jessie-backports directory there.
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• 3602[22:02:33] <testing223> ok thx, I understood that. Now Im trying to remove old LVM partitions)
• 3603[22:02:38] <TomTomTosch> jaggzt, you should add a line for security updates, yes ;D
• 3604[22:02:53] <TomTomTosch> !tell jaggzt about sources.list
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• 3606[22:03:57] <jaggzt> TomTomTosch, :}
• 3607[22:04:31] <jaggzt> TomTomTosch, yeah, was on that page :)
• 3608[22:05:06] <jaggzt> I mean, this page: replaced-url
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• 3610[22:05:16] <jaggzt> went to it looking for info on the security
• 3611[22:05:24] <jaggzt> good debian docs. /me pats distro
• 3612[22:05:44] * jaggzt talks to debian, that's why I've been with you all these years
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• 3621[22:12:00] <jaggzt> how do I do a full upgrade when I have packages held back?
• 3622[22:12:15] <jaggzt> (I don't want held-back packages)
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• 3629[22:13:26] <towo`> jaggzt, should this be a riddle?
• 3630[22:13:53] <jaggzt> lol
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• 3637[22:16:46] <towo`> jaggzt, so it is a riddle for us?
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• 3639[22:17:05] <towo`> jaggzt, do you think, anyone here has a crystalball?
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• 3644[22:21:00] <paxcoder> jradd: the sound issue in iceweasel seems to have gone away somehow...
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• 3686[22:43:07] <sadtaco> Hi. Why does the package for nginx have 2 both a "default" and "default.save" file for /etc/nginx/sites-enabled? The include "/etc/nginx/sites-enabled/*" line makes it get included twice.
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• 3691[22:47:08] <kunwon1> sadtaco: my install doesn't have that, i believe that default.save indicates that that file was there prior to your installation and apt moved it
• 3692[22:47:11] <kunwon1> but i'm not sure
• 3693[22:47:11] <paxcoder> sadtaco: maybe you edited with nano and it saved a copy?
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• 3695[22:47:20] <sadtaco> nvm default.save is empty
• 3696[22:47:32] <sadtaco> trying to figure out what else is causing "nginx: [emerg] duplicate upstream "php" in /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/default.save:1"
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• 3700[22:48:44] <paxcoder> when nano's killed, it saves a .save
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• 3711[22:52:48] <paxcoder> sadtaco: admit your nano crashed darnit!!
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• 3714[22:53:00] <sadtaco> oh
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• 3722[22:57:01] <TTT> hi, are there any free or blob-free 802.11AC chipsets? Ath10k?
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• 3730[22:58:07] <dimitry7> hi guys, is it ok to say this: The latency over 8.8.8.8 is 8.698000ms ?
• 3731[22:58:18] <somiaj> TTT: Atheos does have some (note they still have non-free firmware, it is just nicely flashed on the chip)
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• 3734[22:58:39] <somiaj> TTT: YOu may have to double check which Atheos wifi cards don't need additional nonfree firmware.
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• 3738[23:00:07] <TomTomTosch> TTT, you can check with replaced-url
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• 3740[23:00:44] <TTT> TomTomTosch, thanks, will check
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• 3743[23:01:14] <dimitry7> is it?
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• 3757[23:07:31] <karlpinc> dimitry7: Yes. (although this is not channel for the english language. I can't say where to go for that...)
• 3758[23:07:57] <karlpinc> dimitry7: Maybe better s/over/to/
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• 3781[23:18:03] <r4fkramer> Hi all
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• 3784[23:20:05] <r4fkramer> I would like to know what is exactly dkms in Debian. I just know it's a type of module required to configure any device in Debian, like a fs. Is that right this notion ?
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• 3787[23:20:57] <r4fkramer> Hi mtn, nice to see you again !
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• 3793[23:23:07] <somiaj> the linux kernel uses modules for additional features (drivers). Most of these come with the kernel, but some (mostly non-free) do not come with the kenrel and need to be built against the kernel that is running on your system. The dkms packages mearly automate this task and ensure this automation happens when packages and kernels are upgraded.
• 3794[23:23:11] <tux_cat> i'm looking for a simple iptables rule to decline all incoming stuff?
• 3795[23:23:42] <somiaj> tux_cat: umm, are you sure you want that? Would you like to at least have it not decline any info you requested and is comming back to you?
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• 3798[23:24:07] <tux_cat> i just need a basic iptables rule to sort of "emulate" what ufw is doing
• 3799[23:24:10] <r4fkramer> Oh, Hi somiaj, Glad to see you again !
• 3800[23:24:11] <somiaj> also on debian you shoudln't have open services running so a firewall is not really nessacary [though I don't know what services you want to run]
• 3801[23:24:18] <dimitry7> karlpinc, thanks man! I've my label as latency to 8.8.8.8
• 3802[23:24:22] <dimitry7> thank you!
• 3803[23:24:35] <dimitry7> * I've put
• 3804[23:24:51] <r4fkramer> somiaj, I should use dkms to be able to use ZFS in Debian ?
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• 3810[23:26:40] <somiaj> r4fkramer: I'm unsure about zfs besides it support is new. But if you need to install the module because it isn't included in the kernel, then yes, use the dkms package and ensure you have linux-headers for your kernel installed
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• 3816[23:27:45] <r4fkramer> somiaj, is this package found in Debian stable repository ?
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• 3819[23:27:53] <r4fkramer> for Debian Jessie ?
• 3820[23:28:26] <somiaj> I don't know. I have been just fine with ext? filesystems on my machines.
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• 3823[23:28:43] <somiaj> !zfs
• 3824[23:28:44] <dpkg> ZFS (originally Zettabyte File System) is a file system / logical volume manager developed by Sun Microsystems (replaced-url
• 3825[23:28:49] <r4fkramer> I see, somiaj.
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• 3827[23:29:16] <somiaj> according that factoid it cannot be supplied by debian. But I dont' know if there are anydates or changes to this.
• 3828[23:29:25] <tux_cat> anyone? I just need to "emulate" the ufw disable option
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• 3839[23:30:42] <r4fkramer> I see somiaj, in your case, if you permit me to know about it, please, have you been experienced on using ext4 in Debian Server configuration ?
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• 3842[23:30:59] <r4fkramer> or just for destkop environment ?
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• 3844[23:32:42] <somiaj> I am mostly a desktop user or small servers, never large raid arrays or file systems. I know different file systems have various give and take, but unsure. ext4 will work fine on servers, but many think there are better alternatives.
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• 3846[23:32:51] <DoctorD90> hello guys! I have a FSB clock seed of 800, may I use 800mhz ram?
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• 3848[23:32:56] <DoctorD90> or only 667?
• 3849[23:33:18] <somiaj> DoctorD90: might depend on the mobo, I'd think y ou could use 800, but I'd double check the specs of the actual mobo.
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• 3853[23:33:37] <tux_cat> somiaj, how about this? replaced-url
• 3854[23:34:13] <DoctorD90> somiaj, mobo stands for?
• 3855[23:34:20] <somiaj> DoctorD90: mother board
• 3856[23:34:31] <DoctorD90> oh ok :) i will check! thx!
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• 3858[23:34:48] <DoctorD90> it is a old model..im finding diffuclt also about cpu :P
• 3859[23:34:49] <justinwhite> Hi guys, I hope some one here could help me out :D I have installed Jessie on my SSD. Do I need to configure anything following in replaced-url
• 3860[23:34:54] <somiaj> tux_cat: you won't need all that, but you'll want some combiaiton of the 'allow connenctions already made' and 'reject all other trafic'
• 3861[23:34:54] <r4fkramer> Ok somiaj, your explanations are also very clear and logical, I will think about them. Thanks a lot !
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• 3864[23:35:20] <somiaj> DoctorD90: if you can get the actual mobo model number, most sites contain database for this. Though unsure about some generic brands.
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• 3867[23:35:40] <DoctorD90> lol...i have know checkd on bios...it is another cpu....and its FSB is 667...so...only 667 :P solved :D ahahah sorry for disturb :P
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• 3869[23:35:57] <somiaj> justinwhite: some are there, some just aren't needed on modern SSD hardware (i.e. a lot of this was worked out with impriving the ssd hardware)
• 3870[23:36:19] <somiaj> DoctorD90: yea I'd just match what ever ram is in there now
• 3871[23:36:50] <unborn> hi guys.. is it possible to run dnsmasq as dedicated dns server for my home lan network? currently I have it installed only locally on my laptop however I would like to have my dev server accessible from all devices via dns..
• 3872[23:37:06] <DoctorD90> somiaj, id have to open it XD ....im trying before without disassemble it :D ...
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• 3875[23:37:18] <justinwhite> somiaj : I have a KINGSTON SV300S37A120G model, do I have to configure with it? Not really sure it's new or what ...
• 3876[23:37:28] <somiaj> DoctorD90: ahh the bios doesn't give that info about the ranm?
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• 3878[23:37:30] <Paianni> I used this guide replaced-url
• 3879[23:37:32] <DoctorD90> i just know about "soDIM ddr2 667mhz :P" ...i think that it can be good enough :P
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• 3882[23:38:01] <somiaj> justinwhite: I woudln't know by the model, I'd say you will be just fine if you don't. YOu may get some slight advantages if you do.
• 3883[23:38:09] <DoctorD90> nope...I have just turned it on, opened bios and search for rigth cpu model....on internet i find out the wrong cpu model...
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• 3887[23:38:40] <somiaj> justinwhite: but i can't say which things would be the most useful on jessie.
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• 3889[23:39:42] <justinwhite> somiaj : Uhm well, I understand. Tbh I just want (to configure) my SSD to live as long as possible.
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• 3893[23:40:43] <justinwhite> Paianni : I have looked into that link, plust the one on Debian wiki. My question is that do I have to do those optimization by hand or it's already been done by Debian.
• 3894[23:40:49] <somiaj> justinwhite: you can check the fstab for the atime and trim options
• 3895[23:41:05] <somiaj> justinwhite: they will be in the fstab if they are there, the other things you should be able to check as to the current state as well
• 3896[23:41:08] <Paianni> i did most of them by hand
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• 3898[23:41:43] <Paianni> my system does fstrim every startup, takes about 1:30 min
• 3899[23:42:09] <Paianni> *trim
• 3900[23:43:49] <Paianni> at least that's what i think it does
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• 3905[23:45:41] <justinwhite> somiaj, Paianni : I haven't used SSD for awhile (since SSD is new on Linux) and I had to configure by hand on Debian testing. Just check and seems some configs are not by default on Jessie. Guess I have to do by hand. Thanks guys !
• 3906[23:46:15] <r4fkramer> I must go now. Bye, somiaj, thanks for Great and Clear explanation ! Bye all, Debian Warriors !
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• 3929[23:53:53] <Jsync> hello
• 3930[23:54:12] <Jsync> anybody have NWN installed in Debian?
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• 3932[23:54:42] <Jsync> The solution to my sound problems caused my video to result offset to the left for some reason & the problem seems undocumented.
• 3933[23:54:49] <somiaj> Jsync: what does the issue seem to be. I think you just need to ensure the require base standard c libs and xlibs are installed.
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• 3936[23:55:13] <Jsync> yeah, everything is working fine except that the video is now offset
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• 3938[23:56:03] <Jsync> if I use the ./lib:./miles directory, the video is not a problem, though if I comment out the ./lib: part in the nwn file, the video offsets to the left
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• 3940[23:56:59] <trysten> That's really weird
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• 3943[23:57:32] <Jsync> ikr. The problem is undocumented it seems
• 3944[23:57:55] <Jsync> so I either have no sound & correct video, or I have working sound & offset video. :(
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• 3948[23:58:47] <Jsync> I have an NVIDIA GT610 Video card & typical Debian Linux NVIDIA drivers
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