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7 [00:02:36] <me7zg3r> wait a second
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9 [00:02:51] <me7zg3r> are u trying to apply discrete gpu
nomenclature to cpu gpu?
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15 [00:04:43] <me7zg3r> here you go
replaced-url
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22 [00:11:15] <ewew> just trying to figure out if debian has the
firmware for this cpu with apu.
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41 [00:22:19] <me7zg3r> should be true as 2 years passed and
this one is popular
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53 [00:39:25] <ewew> In which channel should it try to ask about
this ?
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55 [00:42:12] <SlidingHorn> ewew, this (or the official channel
on OFTC) would be the right place. I just don't think anyone
who knows for sure is online right now. Give it some time :)
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58 [00:43:16] <ewew> ok.
59 [00:44:12] <ewew> what does the IGP stand for in the name of
graphic card ? Can it be refered to apu ?
60 [00:44:29] <ewew> like this Radeon R5/R7 IGP 200 series
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62 [00:45:46] <SlidingHorn> I would assume integrated graphics
processor...
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178 [02:02:47] <VjdfMQ> Hey all
179 [02:03:02] <VjdfMQ> Could anyone help with fixing a touchpad
?
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181 [02:04:20] <VjdfMQ> It just stopped working. I've
rebooted. The same. Tried to restart psmouse driver via modprobe -r
psmouse; modprobe psmouse; and now only touchpad works. Touchball ,
Left, Right, Middle buttons don't work
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214 [02:20:15] <SlidingHorn> VjdfMQ, aren't you using
ubuntu?
215 [02:21:39] <VjdfMQ> SlidingHorn: Might be
216 [02:21:49] <VjdfMQ> Regards who's asking
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218 [02:22:18] <bazhang> lsb_release -a in terminal VjdfMQ
219 [02:22:23] <VjdfMQ> #ubuntu doesn't want to help mb
220 [02:22:42] <SlidingHorn> VjdfMQ, I ask because you were in
#ubuntu asking and stating that you were running ubuntu 16.04, and
it's not supported here
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222 [02:22:45] <VjdfMQ>
replaced-url
223 [02:23:13] <VjdfMQ> Uh. You mean debian and ubuntu don't
have the issues ?
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225 [02:23:20] <bazhang> nope
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497 [03:07:24] <me7zg3r> finally i'm back here
498 [03:07:27] <me7zg3r> greetings, anyone
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513 [03:15:26] <qifan> hey
514 [03:15:28] <qifan> =)
515 [03:15:31] <qifan>
replaced-url
516 [03:15:41] <qifan> what might be the cause of this ?
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518 [03:16:39] <SlidingHorn> qifan, first, you need to fix that
broken package (libkactivities6)...
519 [03:16:42] <SlidingHorn> ,v wgetpaste
520 [03:16:43] <judd> No package named 'wgetpaste' was
found in amd64.
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522 [03:16:57] <annadane> apt install --reinstall libkactivities6
523 [03:16:59] <SlidingHorn> and apparently wgetpaste isn't
in the repositories
524 [03:17:04] <qifan> ty
525 [03:17:37] <qifan> worked like a charm :)
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527 [03:18:00] <qifan> btw im trying to install bfgminer
528 [03:18:09] <qifan> from the source but im getting nuts
529 [03:18:19] <qifan> any clever solution?
530 [03:18:35] <qifan> i downloaded the .deb file, but !! missing
dependencies :(
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533 [03:19:08] <annadane> well, don't install .deb files
from the internet
534 [03:19:11] <annadane> !don't break debian
535 [03:19:11] <dpkg> it has been said that dont break debian is
replaced-url
536 [03:19:18] <aaron83> hi there team!
537 [03:19:38] <qifan> can i had some more source.list
repositories ? to my sources.list that way i would get the bfgminer
538 [03:19:38] <qifan> :P
539 [03:19:39] <annadane>
replaced-url
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541 [03:19:55] <annadane> no, see "don't break
debian", don't go adding other repositories
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543 [03:20:00] <SlidingHorn> qifan, what version of debian areyou
running?
544 [03:20:08] <qifan> windows version
545 [03:20:11] <qifan> console mode only
546 [03:20:11] <annadane> sigh
547 [03:20:17] <qifan> what ?
548 [03:20:19] <annadane> nothing
549 [03:20:25] <qifan> :P
550 [03:20:26] <SlidingHorn> xD annadane
551 [03:20:39] <annadane> it's... not really supported here
as we don't know what changes are in the windows version
552 [03:20:41] <aaron83> can anyone explain why my USB port is
working like usb2 with my usb 3 external hdd?
553 [03:20:43] <annadane> !based on debian
554 [03:20:43] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare
replaced-url
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556 [03:21:04] <aaron83> lsusb shows the usb3 driver working over
the port
557 [03:21:11] <qifan> l8r
558 [03:21:12] <qifan> :)
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560 [03:21:19] <qifan> thank you for your kindense
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583 [03:36:24] <idustyb> Oh hey @annadane
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586 [03:37:56] <me7zg3r> Oh, hi Mark
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588 [03:40:10] <jaggz> okay, before I mess something up.. I want
to install an experimental repo version of Gimp (2.10) in my jessie
589 [03:40:15] <jaggz>
replaced-url
590 [03:40:37] <jaggz> How do I accomplish this properly? :)
591 [03:41:36] <me7zg3r> you should add the specific repo to you
sources.list and afterwards apt install it, I believe
592 [03:41:41] <me7zg3r> or manually download-install
593 [03:42:25] <idustyb> Pretty sure you're looking at APT
pinning?
594 [03:42:33] <idustyb> @jaggz
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596 [03:42:55] <idustyb> @jaggz: Consider this documentation;
replaced-url
597 [03:43:16] <jaggz> not sure :) I guess I can try.. I just
don't want to have gimp require the installation of
experimental versions of libc and all sorts of stuff
598 [03:43:59] <jaggz> thanks.. I'll give it a shot
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603 [03:46:49] <jaggz> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.27) but
2.24-11+deb9u3 is to be installed
604 [03:46:51] <jaggz> yeah.. sigh.
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606 [03:47:29] <idustyb> That's using the pinning? What
command did you use to execute that install?
607 [03:47:32] <idustyb> @jaggz
608 [03:47:50] <jaggz> apt-get -t experimental install gimp
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610 [03:48:09] <jaggz> (after adding the repo and apt-get
update'ing)
611 [03:48:26] <jaggz> didn't do any pinning
612 [03:48:50] <annadane> !tell me7zg3r about frankendebian
613 [03:49:07] <idustyb> @jaggz: Yeah. The documentation
isn't great when it then comes to that perspective. I would
have thought that some dependencies are resolved as necessary also
following that experimental repo.
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615 [03:49:17] <idustyb> Did you try to manually install that
libc6 also with -t experimental?
616 [03:49:21] <me7zg3r> I agree on that, annadane
617 [03:49:35] <jaggz> idustyb, there's a whole list.. was
looking into how it's handled
618 [03:49:43] <annadane> jaggz,
replaced-url
619 [03:49:54] <annadane> i'm sure it's available in
eleven billion formats anyway
620 [03:50:02] <annadane> flatpak, whatever
621 [03:50:11] <jaggz>
replaced-url
622 [03:50:32] <annadane> you can generally compile it from
source but from experimental i probably still wouldn't
623 [03:50:36] <jaggz> annadane, they're new to flatpak, and
seem to only provide their stable version in it.
624 [03:50:46] <annadane> me7zg3r, in future please be careful
about giving advice
625 [03:50:54] <annadane> mixing experimental + stable/oldstable
is a big no-no
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627 [03:51:09] <jaggz> the source had a bunch of other lib
dependencies.. i started downloading those and trying to build..
getting to be a mess (since none of those are deb packages), so I
figured I'd look directly at deb experimental
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629 [03:51:15] <me7zg3r> aight, understood
630 [03:51:27] <clime> hello, I cannot boot after upgrade from
Debian 7 to Debian 8.
631 [03:51:33] <me7zg3r> I'm feeling silly, I've made
debian unbootable 7 times in the past 2 days
632 [03:51:52] <idustyb> @jaggz: Yeah. In the end, it's one
of those tradeoffs. I probably should have been clear about that.
633 [03:52:00] <clime> I am getting grub rescue> console and
the error is "File not found". Can anyone given
instructions how this could be fixed?
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635 [03:52:08] <jaggz> checkinstall make install is handy :)
636 [03:52:10] <annadane> did you install anything else from
experimental in the meantime
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638 [03:52:22] <tw> If you run the following command, then
alternate pressing alt-ctrl-1, alt-ctrl-2, does it lock up?
qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2048 -cpu Nehalem,check -smp
cores=2 -vga std -global VGA.vgamem_mb=128 -display sdl
639 [03:52:28] <jaggz> no.. I'm clean
640 [03:52:32] <annadane> good
641 [03:52:34] <idustyb> @jaggz: Depending on the list of
dependencies, and their sources; I've had very little issues
with backports - but that's different.
642 [03:52:47] <avis-> i think you might on a live bootable cd
that is your distro and only that be able to rewrite grub or maybe a
super grub disc
643 [03:53:24] <Resilience> hello to everyone, a littlel
off-topic but,is it possible to make a SAN (with debian, of course)
to share a disk between two (o more computers)?
644 [03:53:24] <idustyb> @jaggz: What's the reason for the
experimental version? Maybe you could sign up and contribute getting
it into some other stream?
645 [03:53:43] <annadane> anyway, the latest upstream version of
gimp ought to just be available on their website anyway as a tar
646 [03:53:49] <annadane> i haven't checked but probably
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648 [03:53:56] <tw> Resilience: same filesystem or different
luns?
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650 [03:54:37] <me7zg3r> I've had a very bad experience with
grub rescue (using debinstall iso), ymmv
651 [03:55:06] <jaggz> idustyb, I "needed" some of its
advanced capabilities for higher bit depth images..
652 [03:55:11] <jaggz> (HDRI)
653 [03:55:20] <idustyb> Roger.
654 [03:55:40] <Resilience> tw same filesystem, I'm afraid
I'm not to keen on NAS vs SAN, but it seems to me that SAN
maybe faster than NAS, right? wrong?
655 [03:55:47] <jaggz> I'm completely unaware of just HOW
stable it is and such.. first time looking at it today..
656 [03:56:05] <jaggz> with all its libs it would definitely be
nice if they had a flatpak for the thing
657 [03:56:11] <idustyb> @jaggz: The main reason for the
`frankendebian` concern is often not related to the package itself,
but it's dependencies.
658 [03:56:38] <idustyb> @jaggz: Given this is dependent on some
pretty critical packages, it's definitely a concern.
659 [03:56:39] <jaggz> idustyb, yeah.. it can get messy..
I've done it in the past but managed to avoid it for years :)
660 [03:56:48] <tw> Resilience: usually SAN means "pass raw
block device to target OS." This is not good for the same FS on
two different computers at the same time and is a great way to
corrupt the filesystem.
661 [03:56:54] <me7zg3r> does sharing a disk between several
computers imply that the HDD is connected to 2 different
motherboards?
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663 [03:57:27] <idustyb> @jaggz: I guess; I'd be shooting up
a VM or something, if that's a possibility. Mess about with it
that way.
664 [03:57:32] <tw> Resilience: But yes, you can use samba or nfs
to share a filesystem with client computers.
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667 [03:58:43] <clime> hello, can anyone, please give me a rough
instructions on how I can fix the grub when I have a disk available
e.g. on /dev/vda?
668 [03:59:01] <Resilience> tw I was thinking about having
two/three computers, which share the same files on a external system
(NAS or SAN), I thought SAN would be faster than NAS, maybe the
problem is "using it at the *same* time?
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670 [03:59:13] <clime> is just group-install /dev/vda enough? I
don't know why I cannot boot after upgrade :(.
671 [03:59:30] <me7zg3r> clime, I've nuked my gpt's a
nice half a dozen of times in the past 2 days, have no clue on
rescuing :(
672 [03:59:46] <annadane> weird to have this much activity in
#debian this late, normally pretty dead
673 [03:59:47] <me7zg3r> the only thing I know is image-backuping
and restoring
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675 [03:59:59] <clime> hmm great
676 [04:00:05] <me7zg3r> debian got more hype recently I guess
677 [04:00:07] <tw> Resilience: I'd only use the SAN option
for exclusive access, unless you really know what you're doing
(eg, failover).
678 [04:00:08] <clime> so group-install cannot help?
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680 [04:00:26] <SlidingHorn> clime, is this a virtual machine?
681 [04:00:30] <idustyb> @jaggz: I, personally; also keep my
environments rather minimalistic. Breaking them then is not a huge
issue. That's no real excuse for frankendebian, but does mean
in some unavoidable instances; you can get around it. That version
of libc6 is also only in SID. So, I think you're going to have
a rather interesting adventure.
682 [04:00:33] <tw> Resilience: NAS-like solutions are probably
going to be more than fast enough.
683 [04:00:38] <clime> SlidingHorn: yes, virtual machine
684 [04:00:58] <Resilience> tw as fast as a local hdd/ssd?
685 [04:01:17] <SlidingHorn> clime, take a look here:
replaced-url
686 [04:01:19] <jaggz> idustyb, I'm not desperate for the
whole thing.. I can get by without gimp 2.10 for now .. :)
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688 [04:01:56] <jaggz> too involved in projects to break my
system.. and I've only used vm's in the past with vbox.
689 [04:02:08] <jaggz> well, I guess I run an android emulator in
qemu
690 [04:03:14] <me7zg3r> wait a second, SlidingHorn can you
actually set up a VM with no performance loss on top of your actual
machine with full hardware access? O-o
691 [04:03:20] <idustyb> @jaggz: Lucky! Gosh :( Glad my
suggestion didn't frankendebian you then >.>
692 [04:03:54] <clime> can I get to "rescue" mode from
grub rescue console?
693 [04:04:03] <tw> Resilience: It'll never be quite that
fast, but I can get 90+MB/sec over 1gbps ethernet sustained to my
samba share.
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695 [04:04:50] <tw> Resilience: The advantage of SAN is that it
doesn't have to do remote lock checking and it can cache better
because it has exclusive access to the FS.
696 [04:04:50] <Resilience> tw I'm more worried about
latencies than about the bandwidth
697 [04:04:55] <me7zg3r> clime, let me google that real quick
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699 [04:05:19] <tw> Resilience: Then I wouldn't share the FS
at all.
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703 [04:06:05] <idustyb> And this is why we pay @annadane the big
bucks!
704 [04:06:39] <Resilience> tw then how can I have a central
repository for my files? i is about having all of them in one place
and being accessible from different computers...
705 [04:06:51] <me7zg3r> clime, grub> set pager=1 // grub>
ls //
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711 [04:07:43] <idustyb> @Resilience: Did you mention what files
you want to share? Demand, size, priority?
712 [04:07:56] <me7zg3r> you can then "grub> cat
(hd0,1)/%etc%/%issue%" to inspect files
713 [04:07:57] <jaggz> idustyb, :)
714 [04:08:27] <tw> Resilience: Try it. You can have a basic
samba server running in 30 minutes.
715 [04:08:27] <clime> yes I can see that!
716 [04:08:33] <Resilience> idustyb, personal rpository:
docuent,s pictures, videos, books, source code and so on
717 [04:08:37] <tw> or less.
718 [04:08:44] <clime> I can see th boot partition and the root
719 [04:08:51] <me7zg3r> grub> set root=(%device%,%partition%)
// grub> linux /boot/%vmlinuz% root=%partition%
720 [04:09:12] <idustyb> @Resilience: Roger that. And what
benefits are needed of this storage? Is it backed up? Or is it to
have it's own redundancy?
721 [04:09:14] <me7zg3r> grub> initrd %path to initrd.img% //
grub> boot
722 [04:09:20] <clime> do the percentage sign belong there?
723 [04:09:24] <clime> *signs
724 [04:09:30] <me7zg3r> no, that is to denote this is generic
hint
725 [04:09:30] <Resilience> tw, I think that the same hardware I
use for a NAS can be turned into a SAN; right? ( I have to buy the
hardware)
726 [04:09:35] <clime> ok
727 [04:10:08] <tw> Resilience: short version is yes, you can set
it up either way (or if you're feeling bold, both from the same
hardware).
728 [04:10:10] <Resilience> idustyb, I was thinking of haveing a
mirror, and having a second systema as a backup for the first one
729 [04:10:27] <Resilience> tw not so bold :P
730 [04:10:29] <clime> but this is grub console, I have only grub
rescue
731 [04:10:52] <clime> so not sure if I can do things like: linux
/boot/%vmlinuz%
732 [04:11:08] <Resilience> tw which micro do you recommend me
for this jo? (if any)
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734 [04:13:08] <idustyb> @Resilience: My experience of SAN is
usually in an enterprise environment, and often depends on special
hardware (IE; links from the 'SAN' provider to the servers
that depend on it). It also often depends on the implementation as
to the technologies you then access it with.
735 [04:13:36] <Resilience> idustyb, mine is a SOHO diy project,
just for me
736 [04:14:00] <Resilience> idustyb, it means off-the-self
hardware, and consumer hardwae
737 [04:14:03] <tw> Resilience: Might float that question in
##hardware, but if it's a single user, you can probably get by
with junkbin parts and a ton of RAM.
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739 [04:14:30] <idustyb> Hmmm
740 [04:14:31] <me7zg3r> clime, that was meant to be linux
/boot/vmlinuz_some_numbers_etc.img
741 [04:14:31] <clime> I can do grub rescue> ls
(hd0,msdos1)/grub
742 [04:14:43] <me7zg3r> I just don't know which is your
location for those files
743 [04:15:09] <clime> which gives ./ ../ device.map grub.cfg
locale/ grubenv unicode.pf2 fonts/ i386-pc/
744 [04:15:34] <clime> then I tried set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/grub
745 [04:15:38] <idustyb> @Resilience: Lots of the SAN's we
used were host to giant environments. We're talking whole
environments, not just 'file shares'. There's more of
an 'architectural' consideration with SAN.
746 [04:15:51] <clime> and insmod normal
747 [04:15:59] <clime> according what I have found on net
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749 [04:16:08] <clime> but getting error: file not found after
that
750 [04:16:41] <me7zg3r> --offtopic idustyb can one setup a
service-like environment? say VM for games with low
ping/latency&&high bandwith for the image transfer?
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754 [04:18:00] <idustyb> @me7zg3r: That's a whole new kettle
of fish there! There's huge considerations with network
bandwidth, reliability. Software too! I think that question really
is like 5 in one!
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759 [04:19:11] <idustyb> @Resilience: I honestly believe a good
NAS configuration might better suit your needs. A decent RAID
(Perhaps 5?), and a tonne of HDD's. I had two (co-located) for
a long time, with some AMD Bulldozer chips.
760 [04:19:21] <Resilience> idustyb, so for a diy SOHO solution I
suppose that you recommend me the NAS way, right?
761 [04:19:35] <Resilience> idustyb, ah, at the same time hehe
762 [04:19:51] <idustyb> @Resilience: Not trying to shoot down a
SAN idea, but you might want to research the architecture / topology
heavily. The benefits of a SAN are generally gained due to the
hardware (Eg; Fibre)
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764 [04:19:57] <idustyb> Or other proprietary connection methods.
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766 [04:20:30] <idustyb> @Resilience: Most definitely. Some other
considerations, as I've already ventured down this path;
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768 [04:21:19] <idustyb> @Resilience: Hardware RAID is faster,
but can become an issue if your infrastructure dies without some
kind of backup hardware (Eg; the Hardware RAID you're using is
discontiued - very unlikely)
769 [04:21:57] <idustyb> @Resilience: It's also expensive
lol
770 [04:21:59] <Resilience> idustyb, I thought that accessing the
blocks directly would be "faster" (less latency) than
having to translate between block/file, I am worried when opening
fle adter file, the delays on ecah one
771 [04:22:09] <Resilience> *each
772 [04:22:14] <tw> Resilience: you don't need to shave ns
with a single user in your application.
773 [04:22:30] <idustyb> @Resilience: I think you'll find
your network infrastructure would become an issue before your
suggestion here.
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775 [04:23:23] <Resilience> tw ?
776 [04:23:24] <me7zg3r> idustyb, do you want that kettle of fish
tho? :D
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778 [04:24:09] <idustyb> @Resilience: You will also have other
file-level issues before network - such as save conflicts.
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781 [04:24:52] <tw> Resilience: the latency difference is not so
much that you're going to notice it under normal circumstances.
782 [04:25:19] <Resilience> idustyb, I don't have check out
the bandwiths, but I have supppossed that 1Gb ethernet is as fast as
(or faster) than sata-3 (maybe I'm wrong)
783 [04:25:29] <idustyb> @me7zg3r: Perhaps. I'd consider
investing in already dedicated infrastructure for that. Like those
steam boxes? So you transmit your game from Computer -> Receiver
-> TV.
784 [04:25:39] <Resilience> tw, ah, I understand now
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786 [04:26:09] <idustyb> @Resilience: As per tw - you would
probably have that same issue no matter which implementation. If
your client only supports SMB (Perhaps a desktop that you're
using to save your pictures) - that overhead is always there.
787 [04:26:38] <idustyb> @me7zg3r: What are you thinking of
building?
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789 [04:26:55] <Resilience> tw idustyb ah, one more thing, when I
say "accessing different comptuers" I mean all are of mine
(differnete workstations, smartphone, etc)
790 [04:27:42] <idustyb> @Resilience: Yeah. Of course.
That's still not an issue with a NAS. I use a VPN also for
remote access.
791 [04:28:16] <me7zg3r> idustyb, something like in the good old
days, big, noisy, lots of fans, gpus, cpus -- you name it! put in
some nvme's with custom cooling and a healthy hundred of
VM's
792 [04:28:36] <me7zg3r> on top of that to install, play, work,
whatever
793 [04:28:49] <Resilience> idustyb, I understand, I was only
saying because hen I said concurrently it means the computers, but
the player is just me, so it would be concurrently, but sequentially
(I am not multitask)
794 [04:28:52] <me7zg3r> and I guess a dozen of GB-ethernet would
be nice for that
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797 [04:29:50] <idustyb> @Resilience: Right! Yeah you
wouldn't have issues with the NAS. I have multiple assets of my
own connected at all times. I don't have any issues. I do not
store source code on there, however. That's all SCM managed on
github.
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799 [04:31:01] <idustyb> @me7zg3r: Does sound fun. I'm too
poor for such projects. I'm even rocking a MacBook Pro (With
debian, of course) with missing keys :(
800 [04:31:13] <idustyb> I'm a developer too! Not having an
up button is killing me!
801 [04:31:24] <Resilience> idustyb, tw, ok, I think i'll go
to the NAS route then
802 [04:32:03] <tw> Resilience: cheaper by far, easier to set up,
and maintain.
803 [04:32:06] <idustyb> @Resilience: I'd be super keen to
help wherever I can too. I must admit; I chose to eventually
purchase Western Digital NAS products (So prebuilt, etc etc). But I
ran my old environment for a LONG time.
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805 [04:32:18] <Resilience> idustyb, what kind oh micro do you
recommnd me? is it better faster? or is it betetr more memory? or
what?
806 [04:32:21] <idustyb> @Resilience: Instead, I've migrated
to these dedicated NAS, and a series of Raspberry Pi's to
create a distributed network.
807 [04:32:22] <me7zg3r> idustyb, I'm rocking a Lenovo X240
with a missing "6" key :D if you have a project, you might
as well stumble on an investor
808 [04:33:28] <me7zg3r> I'm exiting for a while, I'll
miss you, idustyb
809 [04:33:53] <idustyb> @Resilience: Oooh! Tough question.
Another reason I leave that to vendors. I prefer Intel. AMD burnt me
hard with the Bulldozer chipsets, and some other issues with BIOS,
IOMMU (VT-d)... ugh!
810 [04:34:00] <Resilience> idustyb, I have a sinology ds413j on
my desk (a gift from a friend) but I would prefer making my own one
(control freak)
811 [04:34:03] <idustyb> @me7zg3r: Ahw! Clearly miss you too!
Speak soon!
812 [04:34:15] <tw> Resilience: I'd use the synology.
813 [04:34:41] <idustyb> @Resilience: I had lots of issues with
Synology performance. I actually didn't want to purchase the
vendor NAS - it was purchased for me as a gift. But I've been
BLOWN AWAY by it's performance.
814 [04:35:02] <idustyb> Please don't take that as
definitive of Synology products. It was just my experience with 2 of
their products.
815 [04:35:24] <Resilience> tw it does not have command line nor
debian... it is old (I suppose unsupported yet)... and I cannot
play-errrr build O :o)
816 [04:35:44] <idustyb> @Resilience: The NAS I have has full OS
access. I'm pretty sure it's running Debian too!
817 [04:36:13] <Resilience> idustyb, which one is?
818 [04:37:14] <idustyb> @Resilience: Western Digital EX4...
It's no where near the capacity you're looking for.
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822 [04:38:19] <idustyb> @Resilience: Western Digital also fully
release the source, though not on your common SCM. But they do not
support any issues had if you break it.
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826 [04:39:03] <Resilience> idustyb, not thinking on making my
linux-from-scratch compiling everything
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829 [04:39:06] <idustyb> (gpl)
830 [04:39:22] <idustyb> @Resilience: Nah. Debian is the right
choice. lol
831 [04:39:51] <avis-> how do i enable the lan fully on debian ?
832 [04:39:52] <Resilience> idustyb, the only one choice you
mean... ]:o)
833 [04:40:01] <idustyb> @Resilience: Oooh! I stand corrected :D
834 [04:40:12] <Resilience> O :o)
835 [04:40:19] <avis-> ./msg godwinhj snitch !!
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837 [04:40:44] <avis-> typo, sorry
838 [04:41:15] <idustyb> Awkward!
839 [04:41:16] <idustyb> lol
840 [04:41:20] <SlidingHorn> avis-, can you be a little more
specific with your question
841 [04:41:37] <avis-> i would like to know if i have to adjust
to access fully my lan ?
842 [04:41:42] <SlidingHorn> (...and that typo reminds me of the
days when people would try to DM someone on Twitter and type it
wrong and everyone would see it)
843 [04:41:48] <avis-> adjust settings or config files on debian
?
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846 [04:42:19] <Resilience> idyif I try the diy way, a celeron
would be sufficient? i3? i5?
847 [04:42:21] <SlidingHorn> avis-, as long as you set your
workgroup the same as the rest of your network on installation, you
should be fine as far as I know
848 [04:42:22] <idustyb> @avis-: Have you checked your
/etc/network.d/<interface> file?
849 [04:42:23] <Resilience> id4rk_, yif I try the diy way, a
celeron would be sufficient? i3? i5?
850 [04:42:31] <avis-> i have not idustyb
851 [04:43:05] <idustyb> @avis-: Can you see the interface in `ip
addr`
852 [04:43:18] <avis-> i'm sure i can find it. i'll
look
853 [04:44:08] <idustyb> @Resilience: Hmm! So it's just
hosting these files? Is it hosting vm's or anything as well?
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855 [04:44:45] <idustyb> @Resilience: I went with early quad core
CPU's, because I was hosting like.. a handful of VM's on
each machine. Some were CPU intensive, like.. my.. -cough- minecraft
-cough- server at the time..
856 [04:44:47] <Resilience> idustyb, just files, I only want some
central repository for all my computers
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858 [04:45:26] <avis-> i have this one and this one,
/etc/network/interfaces.d and /etc/network/if-up.d but not exactly
what you said
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860 [04:45:38] <avis-> there is a forward slash after both
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862 [04:46:16] <idustyb> @avis-: Sorry! Correction.
`/etc/network/interfaces.d/<interface name>`
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866 [04:46:53] <idustyb> @avis-: For me, for example:
`/etc/network/interfaces.d/enp2s0f0` - contains my configuration for
that device. It's important to consider; this may then conflict
with the network-manager applet.
867 [04:47:00] <avis-> nope, i don't dusty, there are three
files that don't relfect iwconfig or if/ipconfig. but i do have
the directory. wild. i'm using debian 9.4 iso 1 and updated by
net
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869 [04:47:22] <idustyb> @Resilience: That NAS I use has a 2GHZ
CPU, and 512MB of ram. Bit old for now. It's also only managing
a RAID (probably software, tbh) over 4 drives.
870 [04:47:24] <avis-> thank you
871 [04:47:27] <idustyb> @Resilience: How many drives are you
going?
872 [04:48:45] <idustyb> @avis-: I have `allow-hotplug enp2s0f0`
and `iface enp2s0f0 inet dhcp` in my
`/etc/network/interfaces.d/enp2s0f0` file, which works well for me.
I can then bring up the interface, if it doesn't automatically
(as it should) with `ifup enp2s0f0`
873 [04:49:09] <Resilience> idustyb, I was thinking of a raid-1
(mirror system) with a twin system for hardware redundancy (maybe I
am wrong)
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875 [04:49:14] <idustyb> @avis-: (Requires `ifdown enp2s0f0` if
it's already up, but not functioning)
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880 [04:52:50] <idustyb> @Resilience: Considering the RAID type
is a pretty important question. Sounds like you have an awesome,
big, project ahead of you ;)
881 [04:53:21] <idustyb> @Resilience: I think I lied before..
Come to think of it; I just used LVM instead of a RAID on those two
servers.
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884 [04:54:44] <Resilience> idustyb, call me "innocent"
but I thought it was as easy has having a NAS with a samba share
plus some kind of control access, with raid-1, and another system
which sync's each hour, or so
885 [04:54:46] <idustyb> @Resilience: My 'resilience'
was the fact the two environments mirrored eachother, and were
co-located.
886 [04:54:51] <tw> Resilience: a good backup policy is likely
more cost effective than a twin system, unless uptime is critical.
887 [04:55:35] <idustyb> @Resilience: I agree with tw here. A
good backup is important. And the right RAID provides that too.
888 [04:55:48] <idustyb> RAID-5 with 4 drives is a bad idea, btw.
889 [04:55:49] <luke-jr> [01:19:08] <annadane> well,
don't install .deb files from the internet <-- to be fair,
Debian removed bfgminer for no good reason some months ago, so he
may not have a choice
890 [04:55:50] <tw> RAID is not backup.
891 [04:56:13] <Resilience> tw a back up on what tape?
hdd's? it seems the same amount of money that having a second
unit, and I cannot afford the time without accessing my files
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893 [04:56:56] <luke-jr> not that I have any idea what qifan was
doing related to bfgminer O.o
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895 [04:57:35] <tw> Resilience: depending on volume and nature of
the files, something as simple as plug in USB disks that you rotate
could work.
896 [04:57:38] <idustyb> @tw: I agree, and disagree. Sucks :(
lol. By very definition, you're right. So I stand corrected,
@Resilience. @Resilience: RAID?# is not a a backup.
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900 [04:59:10] <Resilience> idustyb, tw, I know it is not a
backup, but for loosing i all, It would have to break 4 disks and
two systems...
901 [04:59:13] <nevyn> idustyb: why do you say raid5 with 4
drives is a bade idea?
902 [04:59:26] <Resilience> becasue it is :)
903 [04:59:37] <tw> idustyb: for example, in jan, I had a raid1
system crash the fw on a dell PERC. It then proceeded to eat both
disks.
904 [04:59:39] <Resilience> it is know even for me that I cannot
explain it
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909 [05:02:13] <idustyb> @nevyn: You only have 1 drive spare, to
which all other drives are required to rebuild - which, especially
in consumer drives; is asking for failure on one of the others (And
then your entire array)
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911 [05:03:39] <idustyb> @nevyn: I can't remember the actual
'term' for this, but one does exist. You're basically
encouraging one of the other drives to fail, due to the intense
workload in rebuilding the array.
912 [05:04:09] <idustyb> However; Anything over this volume (With
2 spare); RAID5 is my favorite.
913 [05:04:12] <Resilience> idustyb, it is not about the MTBF
doesn't it?
914 [05:04:35] <Resilience> idustyb, 2 spares are 5 or 6 disks?
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916 [05:06:53] <idustyb> Hmmm..
917 [05:06:59] <tw> 2 spares is raid6.
918 [05:07:10] <tw> unless you mean hot spares that have no data
on them.
919 [05:07:27] <idustyb> Yeah. I'm a liar there again. wtf.
920 [05:07:35] <idustyb> It is RAID6 for two spare.
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923 [05:08:18] <tw> Figure a URE is going to happen every 10 TB
or so and you need to do a full read of your array to rebuild it...
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925 [05:09:01] <tw> URE -> usually rebuild fail.
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940 [05:20:38] <idustyb> @tw: That might be the term I'm
thinking - 'URE'? I dunno.
941 [05:20:43] <idustyb> @tw: What do you have for your personal
setup?
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946 [05:26:54] <tw> idustyb: going way off topic, at home, 4x4TB
raid10 nas, 2x6tb raid1 backups, some of the backups rsync to an
internet server.
947 [05:27:21] <idustyb> @tw: Roger that. I appreciate your
response! Thank you!
948 [05:27:23] <tw> at work it's kind of a cf of 4
generations of storage systems.
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1247 [09:02:02] <hacktivist10001> fine
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1274 [09:16:37] <jakarto> how do I use wget with
"--input-file url.txt", if URLs in url.txt contain ranges
such as
replaced-url
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1276 [09:17:39] <themill> The better question is, perhaps, why
would wget not read { as { but as something else
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1279 [09:18:43] <themill> (0x7B is {, after all)
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1282 [09:18:52] <jakarto> yes
1283 [09:19:28] <jakarto> I guess wget is "url encoding"
the URLs
1284 [09:20:01] <themill> sure, that's what it should be
doing, isn't it?
1285 [09:20:06] * themill isn't seeing the problem
1286 [09:20:24] <jakarto> themill: the problem is that I
don't know how to use range URLs from a text file
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1288 [09:21:01] <themill> I don't think wget has any ability
to do ranges of anything
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1297 [09:26:49] <n4dir> there probably is a irc channel for wget,
if you want to be sure.
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1304 [09:29:48] <jakarto> ah cool thank for the pointer
1305 [09:30:24] <themill> Perhaps you've been doing this on
the command line and your shell has been expanding the range for you
1306 [09:30:43] <jakarto> that sounds like a good explanation
1307 [09:30:45] <n4dir> you could ask in #bash, as it might well
be the problem relates to when and how bash expands { }
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1321 [09:37:44] <alkisg> jakarto: bash supports ranges, wget
doesn't. So you can't put ranges inside the wget file,
it's not a bash script.
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1326 [09:39:07] <jakarto> ok, thanks
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1355 [09:57:36] <rendar> E: Failed to fetch
replaced-url
1356 [09:57:36] <rendar> E: Failed to fetch
replaced-url
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1358 [09:58:07] <rendar> what's the matter with this?! i have
just bought a virtual server with debian 8 (Jessie) ..and tried to
install very common packets, such as libc
1359 [09:58:19] <rendar> why it tells me 404 Not Found? This is
absurd.
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1363 [10:00:32] <alkisg> rendar: try `apt-get update` first
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1365 [10:01:32] <rendar> ok
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1369 [10:02:06] <rendar> but, isn't jessie the old Debian?
should i substitutite it with stretch?
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1371 [10:03:08] <morf> rendar: it's old stable, if you want
you can; but it's supported up to 2020-04 so you have time :]
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1373 [10:03:21] <rendar> :)
1374 [10:03:30] <rendar> but i will get newer packages with
stretch, will i?
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1379 [10:05:05] <alkisg> rendar: apt-get update means "fetch
me the package information for jessie, without updating anything at
all"
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1387 [10:06:10] <rendar> yes, i know that, i was asking if i
substitute 'jessie' with 'stretch' and i will
make update+upgrade+dist-upgrade, i will have newer packages/kernel
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1389 [10:06:52] <rendar> hmm, Reading package lists... Done
1390 [10:06:52] <rendar> W: There is no public key available for
the following key IDs:
1391 [10:06:52] <rendar> EF0F382A1A7B6500
1392 [10:06:57] <rendar> what this means?
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1723 [10:58:58] <DJ-ArcAngel> when was debian 7 EOL
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1727 [11:02:43] <jelly> DJ-ArcAngel: ask the bot via private
message, read: "/msg dpkg wheezy" but also "/msg dpkg
wheezy-lts"
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1731 [11:03:38] <jelly> LTS will end in May 2018, about a month or
so left
1732 [11:04:07] <DJ-ArcAngel> ah ok, thank you
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1777 [11:26:59] <ychaouche> hello #debian
1778 [11:27:07] <ychaouche> my /tmp/ directory is empty.
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1780 [11:28:37] <Haohmaru> is that bad?
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1782 [11:29:13] <ychaouche> that's what I'm asking
myself
1783 [11:29:20] <ychaouche> I'm not used to finding an empty
/tmp/
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1786 [11:30:02] <ychaouche> df -h shows no value that is superior
to 10% use
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1813 [11:50:42] <Tsutsukakushi> hey, does any of you know how
prevent debootstrap from connecting to a mirror
1814 [11:50:47] <Tsutsukakushi> and instead using the tarball
1815 [11:51:16] <Tsutsukakushi> there was some workaround with
just having the Release file in a local directory
1816 [11:51:18] <Tsutsukakushi> but
1817 [11:51:29] <Tsutsukakushi> there should be some better way to
do this as well
1818 [11:52:47] <Tsutsukakushi> it seems to still download from
the mirror even with --unpack-tarball on
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1839 [12:10:44] <furrymcgee> Tsutsukakushi: debootstrap accepts
file URL for example debootstrap sid tmp file:///media/cdrom
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1845 [12:13:14] <Tsutsukakushi> furrymcgee: but that has to be an
actual mirror
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1847 [12:13:24] <Tsutsukakushi> furrymcgee: i want to use the
tarball feature
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1899 [12:43:42] <ychaouche> I want to simulate ccess to my imap
server from the outside, what's easier : use a proxy or use
some command line tools that obfuscate my IP ? (I am thinking about
nc)
1900 [12:43:52] <ychaouche> I don't know how to do any of the
two
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1902 [12:45:21] <ychaouche> /j ##linux
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1908 [12:48:42] <rmrfchik> hi. I have ip camera (rtsp is
supported). How can I stream it via web page under debian?
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1913 [12:54:52] <Haohmaru> you want to make a page where it can be
watched?
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1917 [12:56:11] <rmrfchik> Haohmaru, yes
1918 [12:56:23] <Haohmaru> no idea
1919 [12:56:56] <rmrfchik> rtsp requires login/password and I can
watch it with VLC. Now I want to somehow show it on web without
login/password
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1941 [13:14:46] <Kelsar> i try to install phpmyadmin without
apache, nginx-extras is allready installed. even with "apt-get
install --no-install-recommends phpmyadmin" apache is selected
to be installed, what am I doing wrong?
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1949 [13:17:14] <NeuhNeuh> Hello ! :)
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1959 [13:24:39] <Kelsar> ok, difference is, without recommends it
will "only" apache2-bin instead of apache2
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1965 [13:28:13] <Kelsar> seems to be php pulling in apache by
default
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1970 [13:30:00] <jelly> Kelsar: what if you install php-fpm first,
then install your thing that depends on (any) php
1971 [13:30:17] <jelly> or both in the same command
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1974 [13:31:13] <jelly> ,depends phpmyadmin
1975 [13:31:15] <judd> Package phpmyadmin in stretch/amd64 --
depends: php, php-cli, php-mysql, php-json, php-mbstring, php-xml,
perl, debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, libjs-sphinxdoc (>=
1.0), dbconfig-mysql | dbconfig-no-thanks | dbconfig-common
(<< 2.0.0), php-php-gettext | php-gettext (<= 1:7.0),
php-phpseclib (>= 2.0), ucf (>= 0.28).
1976 [13:31:16] <Kelsar> jelly: yes, that works, had a typo in my
ansible role, php-fpm 1st prevents that
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1980 [13:31:32] <jelly> ,whatprovides php
1981 [13:31:35] <judd> Package php in stretch/amd64 is provided
by: php7.0. php is also a real package.
1982 [13:31:42] <jelly> !#%5@#
1983 [13:31:45] <jelly> ,whatprovides php7.0
1984 [13:31:46] <judd> In stretch/amd64, php7.0 is a real package.
1985 [13:31:58] <jelly> is it now
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1987 [13:32:13] <jelly> ,depends php7.0
1988 [13:32:15] <judd> Package php7.0 in stretch/amd64 -- depends:
libapache2-mod-php7.0 | php7.0-fpm | php7.0-cgi, php7.0-common.
1989 [13:32:18] <jelly> and there it is
1990 [13:32:37] <babilen> Yeah, -fpm has to be installed first or
apache is pulled in
1991 [13:32:52] <babilen> Bit annoying that sometimes
1992 [13:33:07] <ksk> Hey Guys. How do I disable/alter the
screensaver in debian9/xfce? I tired to google and came to a
"settings editor" - but I dont find any reference to
screensaver. thanks!
1993 [13:33:08] <jelly> so apachecentric!
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2002 [13:41:17] <ksk> morf: thx
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2023 [14:02:53] <ewew> Hi. Is the apu A10-9700 supported in debian
?
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2037 [14:11:17] <RoyK> ewew: I don't see why not - it's
just an amd x64
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2040 [14:12:06] <ewew> because of the apu inside is r7 graphic.
But the firmware available for it is series 200.
2041 [14:12:40] <ewew> And i can not dig out the info which series
it has.
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2104 [14:54:16] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
2105 [14:54:16] <netscape101> anyone familiar with this package:
libpng16-dev mentioned here:
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2112 [14:59:46] <themill> ,i libpng-dev
2113 [14:59:47] <judd> Package libpng-dev (libdevel, optional) in
stretch/amd64: PNG library - development (version 1.6). Version:
1.6.28-1; Size: 244.6k; Installed: 638k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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2116 [15:00:50] <themill> (needing random packages implies that
you're installing things not designed for debian; when that
breaks, you get to keep both pieces)
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2118 [15:02:04] <boudiccas> I'm using debian 9 and am finding
my access to a freenode group called 'ledger' blocked. the
hexchat message that I'm getting is "Only users using SSL
could join this channel!" so how can i install SSl please?
I've doen an Apt-cache search but I don't know which
program i should use
2119 [15:02:43] <netscape101> boudiccas: /server -ssl
irc.freenode.net
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2121 [15:02:54] <themill> boudiccas: this is about your irc client
configuration
2122 [15:03:04] <boudiccas> ah, right. thanks
2123 [15:03:07] <ewew> boudiccas use the ssl port number 6697
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2189 [15:31:25] <jubalh> are all debian packages on salsa? or does
this depend on the maintainer?
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2191 [15:32:17] <themill> no, yes.
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2193 [15:33:32] <jubalh> what is a reliable way to get the
changelog file contained in .deb files if one doesnt run debian on
that machine? I thought about looking in salsa. maybe there is
another way
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2198 [15:33:57] <themill> From tracker.d.o or from the .deb
2199 [15:34:21] <themill> or metadata.ftp-master.d.o
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2206 [15:35:46] <Tsutsukakushi> hey guys
2207 [15:35:53] <Tsutsukakushi> didn't get any good response
earlier today
2208 [15:36:12] <Tsutsukakushi> is there any way to get the
--unpack-tarball functionality in debootstrap to work
2209 [15:36:19] <Tsutsukakushi> or is this functionality simply
broken?
2210 [15:36:45] <jubalh> perfect, thank you themill
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2215 [15:37:34] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: you might need to
describe how it's not working
2216 [15:37:53] <Tsutsukakushi> themill: it still tries to
download everything from the mirror
2217 [15:37:59] <Tsutsukakushi> and does not unpack and use the
contents of the tarball
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2219 [15:38:20] <Tsutsukakushi> description in the manpage for
--unpack-tarball=FILE is:
2220 [15:38:22] <Tsutsukakushi> Acquire .debs from tarball FILE
instead of downloading via http.
2221 [15:38:28] <Tsutsukakushi> but this is not what happens
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2223 [15:38:46] <Tsutsukakushi> seems to be case for other users
on the web as well
2224 [15:39:52] <alkisg> Tsutsukakushi: and did you create that
.tar with debootstrap --make-tarball?
2225 [15:40:00] <Tsutsukakushi> yes
2226 [15:40:09] <alkisg> Can you share the exact commands?
2227 [15:42:11] <Tsutsukakushi> fakeroot /usr/sbin/debootstrap
--verbose --foreign --variant=minbase --arch=amd64
--keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg
--make-tarball=debian-amd64.tgz stretch /tmp/tmp.BTbNIeT3gq
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2228 [15:42:16] <Tsutsukakushi> and
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2231 [15:43:31] <allizom> I'm trying to create a bridge to
share my internet connection from the wireless interface in my
laptop to a virtual machine I will run there. I'm using
NetworkManager. Though I've previously set up a bridge using
the wired ethernet connection, and it worked, in this case nmcli c
up is able to activate the bridge, but not the slave connection,
which fails with "Error: can't activate connection"
(it's actually a localized
2232 [15:43:33] <allizom> Here are configs and logs:
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2234 [15:43:37] <Tsutsukakushi> sudo debootstrap --verbose
--no-check-gpg --foreign
--unpack-tarball="$PWD"/debian-amd64.tgz --arch=amd64
stretch /tmp/tmp.CnM7tTpaVn
replaced-url
2235 [15:43:59] <Tsutsukakushi> i added the mirror at the end
because it seems to be implcit if not mentioned
2236 [15:44:32] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: seems to work here
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2238 [15:44:51] <Tsutsukakushi> changing the mirror to
"file:///localmirror" and having just the Release file in
the localmirror does not work, though someone on some forums said it
did for him
2239 [15:45:06] <Li> the darn battery died without notification
from on debian and I lost all opened windows! how to fix debian
power problems once and for all?
2240 [15:45:10] <Tsutsukakushi> themill: when you run the second
command do you see lines that say "Retrieving" ?
2241 [15:45:12] <Tsutsukakushi> or start with
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2243 [15:45:45] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: sure, that doesn't
mean it's not using the tarball
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2260 [15:56:26] <AquaFiX> do i created ftp access using vsftp
2261 [15:56:31] <AquaFiX> againt all advice to my root account,
yes
2262 [15:56:58] <AquaFiX> my root account can access some
directories, but not others, even after applying chown, and chroot
-R 777 dir-here///
2263 [15:57:03] <AquaFiX> vsftpd
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2265 [15:57:47] <FinalX> please, for additional entertainment,
tell us you're not using a secure method and are on a public
wifi.
2266 [15:58:34] <AquaFiX> i am at the mall on my 2004 windows xp
pirated installation
2267 [15:59:01] <AquaFiX> so what's the issue
2268 [15:59:04] <AquaFiX> it's only a local server
2269 [15:59:08] <AquaFiX> with no wan access
2270 [15:59:14] <AquaFiX> but i cannot access the folder i want
2271 [15:59:36] <AquaFiX> i can access all files/folders up to the
folder that includes the information that i want to access
2272 [15:59:47] <AquaFiX> so i must of set something right, but i
cant get access to the files within
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2279 [16:00:24] <ikarosuusi> The following packages have unmet
dependencies:
2280 [16:00:24] <ikarosuusi> libudev-dev : Depends: libudev1 (=
232-25+deb9u2) but 232-25+deb9u3 is to be installed
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2284 [16:00:38] <ikarosuusi> E: Unable to correct problems, you
have held broken packages.
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2287 [16:00:53] <ikarosuusi> i have problem concentrating
2288 [16:01:00] <ikarosuusi> and so many problems
2289 [16:01:02] <morf> disconnect from irc :]
2290 [16:01:07] <ikarosuusi> help
2291 [16:01:23] <ikarosuusi> i dont even know what udev does
2292 [16:01:26] <AquaFiX> can you explain why chmod -R
directory/here
2293 [16:01:29] <ikarosuusi> it listens to devices?
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2295 [16:01:45] <ikarosuusi> im trying to install obs
2296 [16:01:50] <morf> ikarosuusi: device manager
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2298 [16:01:51] <ikarosuusi> im artist please help not linux guru
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2304 [16:02:27] <ikarosuusi> so many other problems too building
obs but this one i cannot comprehend
2305 [16:02:31] <ikarosuusi> how have I held packages
2306 [16:02:35] <ikarosuusi> like i have kidnapped them
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2308 [16:02:37] <ikarosuusi> but i have not
2309 [16:03:00] <morf> i'm depressed already just by reading
it
2310 [16:03:08] <ikarosuusi> yes me too
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2312 [16:03:33] <ikarosuusi> like how can it depend on something
barely a version old
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2314 [16:03:44] <ikarosuusi> like third of a version old and not
backwards compatible
2315 [16:03:50] <ikarosuusi> ...
2316 [16:03:54] <ikarosuusi> and i dont even know what held it
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2319 [16:04:41] <ikarosuusi> just do some more morf eene and then
your depression will go away and you can help me
2320 [16:04:59] <ikarosuusi> i even gave you joke now :)
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2325 [16:06:48] <ikarosuusi> usually apt gives me some kind of
advice but now it only tells me
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2328 [16:06:57] <ikarosuusi> libudev-dev : Depends: libudev1 (=
232-25+deb9u2) but 232-25+deb9u3 is to be installed
2329 [16:07:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1543
2330 [16:07:26] <ikarosuusi> E: Unable to correct problems, you
have held broken packages.
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2332 [16:07:54] <|aaron> Are hyphen and underscores in
/etc/network/interfaces interchangeable?
2333 [16:07:57] <ikarosuusi> how can i unhold it?
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2335 [16:08:10] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Give a specific example of
what you're trying to do?
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2337 [16:08:32] <ikarosuusi> how can i tell it to not install the
wrong one
2338 [16:08:38] <ikarosuusi> im not installing anything else
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2340 [16:08:41] <ikarosuusi> theres nothing on the list
2341 [16:08:49] <ikarosuusi> if i do force install nothing is
installing no problem
2342 [16:08:51] <|aaron> hyperlumic: well im trying to
troubleshoot a bonded and bridged interface, and i keep seeing
conflicting examples of config settings online. like "bond_mode
802.3ad" vs "bond-mode 802.3ad"
2343 [16:08:59] <ikarosuusi> but when i try to install udev dev
then suddenly im holding some package
2344 [16:09:03] <ikarosuusi> like what the fuck seriously
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2346 [16:09:10] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Ah. No, they're not
interchangeable. For bonding, use the hyphenated forms.
2347 [16:09:25] <|aaron> ahhh thats my problem then
2348 [16:09:29] <hyperlumic> |aaron: At least, I am 99% sure
they're not, and I use the hyphenated forms for my LACP
configuration.
2349 [16:10:10] <|aaron> i think maybe the debian version matters
too? my config was fine on debian 8, just upgraded to 9 when i
started having issues
2350 [16:10:17] <ikarosuusi> like i got so many other problems in
life but this is the one that makes me want to shoot people
2351 [16:10:23] <ikarosuusi> but thats what you debian guys want
right?
2352 [16:10:37] <ikarosuusi> make people install your system then
put them in impossible situation
2353 [16:10:44] <ikarosuusi> and then when they and i come to ask
for help
2354 [16:10:47] <hyperlumic> |aaron: I used the same format in 8
as I do now.
2355 [16:10:53] <ikarosuusi> you go "oh i get depressed by
just reading that"
2356 [16:11:00] <ikarosuusi> like seriously change your attitude
and help me
2357 [16:11:04] <|aaron> the examples here use underscores
replaced-url
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2359 [16:11:28] <|aaron> hah, well example 1 does, #2 uses hyphens
2360 [16:11:28] <ikarosuusi> libudev-dev : Depends: libudev1 (=
232-25+deb9u2) but 232-25+deb9u3 is to be installed
2361 [16:11:29] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Honestly, that page is quite
out of date.
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2363 [16:11:31] <ikarosuusi> E: Unable to correct problems, you
have held broken packages.
2364 [16:11:56] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Pastebin what you currently
have, and I'll see if I can help you get it working.
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2366 [16:12:26] <|aaron> hyperlumic:
replaced-url
2367 [16:12:44] <hyperlumic> Oh god, no wonder.
2368 [16:12:58] <hyperlumic> Okay, sit tight.
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2371 [16:13:14] <|aaron> haha oh man is it that obvious? i was
tearing my hair out all day yesterday over this..
2372 [16:13:19] <MrKeuner> hi, what's wrong with this? sudo
apt-get install nscd=2.24-11
2373 [16:13:26] <MrKeuner> Running Debian 9.3
2374 [16:13:38] <MrKeuner> E: Version '2.24-11' for
'nscd' was not found
2375 [16:14:27] <ikarosuusi> MrKeuner maybe try older mirror?
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2377 [16:14:31] <ikarosuusi> some old stable?
2378 [16:14:38] <hyperlumic> |aaron:
replaced-url
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2382 [16:15:18] <|aaron> oh wow yeah thats different
2383 [16:15:47] <ikarosuusi> E: Unable to correct problems, you
have held broken packages. THEN cmake -DUNIX_STRUCTURE=1
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr ..
2384 [16:15:52] <ikarosuusi> ehh wtf
2385 [16:16:00] <ikarosuusi> broken clipboard lol
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2388 [16:16:12] <sag3> MrKeuner: nscd=2.24-11+deb9u3 is probably
what you want
2389 [16:16:15] <ikarosuusi> i guess people have given up on linux
clipboard lmao
2390 [16:16:29] <ikarosuusi> dpkg --get-selections | grep hold =
NOTHING
2391 [16:16:29] * dpkg selects ikarosuusi's ultra-s3kr3t collection
2392 [16:16:56] <ikarosuusi> thanks
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2395 [16:17:22] <hyperlumic> |aaron: I get why your config stopped
working when you upgraded to 9. :)
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2398 [16:18:11] <ikarosuusi> libudev-dev : Depends: libudev1 (=
232-25+deb9u2) but 232-25+deb9u3 is to be installed?? WHY? Why
isn't it installing it already then?!
2399 [16:18:40] <|aaron> hyperlumic: i guess 9 requires the slaves
declaration as opposed to bond-master?
2400 [16:19:15] <n4dir> MrKeuner: use the version apt-cache show
nscd ; shows
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2403 [16:19:37] <ikarosuusi> --fix-broken: cmake
-DUNIX_STRUCTURE=1 -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr ..
2404 [16:19:49] <ikarosuusi> --fix-broken: 0 upgraded, 0 newly
installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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2406 [16:19:57] <ikarosuusi> so how is it conflicting?
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2408 [16:20:10] <ikarosuusi> libudev-dev : Depends: libudev1 (=
232-25+deb9u2) but 232-25+deb9u3 is to be installed
2409 [16:20:13] <ikarosuusi> E: Unable to correct problems, you
have held broken packages.
2410 [16:20:21] <ikarosuusi> how is it conflicting if I'm not
installing anything else?
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2412 [16:20:40] <ikarosuusi> what can I do about it?
2413 [16:20:55] <ikarosuusi> remove udev and then pray it will
install and not just ruin everything?
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2415 [16:22:14] <|aaron> hyperlumic: that didnt work unfortunately
2416 [16:22:50] <|aaron> bond0 and its slave interfaces are all in
DOWN status after rebooting
2417 [16:23:12] <|aaron> `ifup eth1` gives me unknown interface
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2423 [16:25:35] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Sure, because eth1 isn't
really controlled by ifupdown at that point.
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2427 [16:25:51] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Any log events that might
indicate why the bond interface didn't come up?
2428 [16:25:55] <MrKeuner> n4dir, thank you, I assumed I
didn't need the deb9u1 part
2429 [16:26:01] <MrKeuner> wrongly
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2431 [16:26:53] <n4dir> what confused me is that
packages.debian.org shows a different version number for stable
deb9u3 (no clue why, btw).
2432 [16:27:02] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Um, to verify... You DO have
the 'ifenslave' package installed, yes?
2433 [16:27:16] <n4dir> ,nscd
2434 [16:27:18] <|aaron> yeah its installed
2435 [16:27:20] <n4dir> damnit.
2436 [16:27:37] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Comb through
/var/log/messages and see if there's anything relevant.
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2438 [16:27:55] <|aaron> i dont see anyhting about bond0 in the
logsbut i do see some errors like 'vmbr0: port 4(veth103i0)
entered blocking state' then entered disabled state
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2440 [16:28:08] <hyperlumic> Yeah, because its
"physical" interface is down.
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2443 [16:29:00] <hyperlumic> Is there anything in
/proc/net/bonding/bond0 ?
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2445 [16:29:48] <|aaron> hyperlumic: yeah, this cant be right
replaced-url
2446 [16:30:07] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Okay, the only time I've
seen that is when ifenslave is not, actually, installed.
2447 [16:30:16] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Can you verify that via dpkg?
2448 [16:30:48] <|aaron> apt-get install ifenslave says its there
2449 [16:31:11] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Anything in /etc/modules or
/etc/modprobe.d?
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2451 [16:32:02] <MrKeuner> n4dir, there is a local repo in comany
probably cached a while ago.
2452 [16:32:02] <|aaron> no not really
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2454 [16:32:13] <|aaron> nothing relevant
2455 [16:32:34] <hyperlumic> |aaron: The only other thing
I've seen do this is when something creates the bond interface,
and then tries to change the mode after an interface has been
enslaved to the bond interface.
2456 [16:32:46] <hyperlumic> |aaron: So it gets stuck in
round-robin, for instance.
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2458 [16:33:11] <|aaron> yeah its in round robin according to
/proc
2459 [16:33:20] <JordiGH> Stinkpad X1 gen 5, you think Debian
stable can handle it?
2460 [16:33:23] <hyperlumic> |aaron: grep -R bond0 /etc/network -
Anything come up outside of /e/n/i?
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2462 [16:34:01] <|aaron> yeah some files in /etc/network/run
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2464 [16:34:14] <|aaron> ifstate.bond0, .eth0 etc
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2467 [16:35:42] <hyperlumic> |aaron: grep bonding /var/log/syslog
?
2468 [16:36:12] <ikarosuusi> sudo apt -f install
libudev-dev=232-25+deb9u2
2469 [16:36:12] <ikarosuusi> libudev-dev : Depends: libudev1 (=
232-25+deb9u2) but 232-25+deb9u3 is to be installed
2470 [16:36:15] <ikarosuusi> why?
2471 [16:36:27] <|aaron> hyperlumic: nothing at all
2472 [16:36:35] <ikarosuusi> why are you ignoring me?
2473 [16:36:45] <ikarosuusi> this is absolutely ridiculously
frustrating!
2474 [16:37:12] <hyperlumic> |aaron: That's really bizarre.
Okay, odd request. apt purge ifenslave and reinstall it.
2475 [16:37:19] <ikarosuusi> first you tell me install linux
it's open source and spy free and everything is nice and then
when i encounter problem NOBODY GIVES A FUCK
2476 [16:37:35] <ikarosuusi> you autistic shithead motherfuckers
in the literal sense
2477 [16:37:43] <|aaron> hyperlumic: if i remove thats its going
to uninstall proxmox
2478 [16:38:06] <hyperlumic> And there's the wildcard.
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2480 [16:38:19] <hyperlumic> Proxmox mangles the system in a lot
of funky ways, even if it's installed on top of Debian.
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2482 [16:38:31] <hyperlumic> !proxmox
2483 [16:38:31] <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is
a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a
virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not
supported in #debian. There's an unofficial
proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see
##replaced-url
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2487 [16:38:58] <|aaron> yeah ##proxmox has not been helpful... so
you think the issue is specific to it?
2488 [16:39:01] <JordiGH> ikarosuusi: Also force the version of
libudev, add libudev=232-25+deb9u2 on the apt line. Although
I'm not sure why you're doing this.
2489 [16:39:22] <hyperlumic> |aaron: Yes. The bonding
configuration I gave you was nearly a copy and paste off of one of
my Debian servers. I only changed the interface names.
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2491 [16:39:28] <JordiGH> ikarosuusi: Downgrading packages
isn't generally supported, but it might work in this case.
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2494 [16:39:46] <|aaron> sigh. well i guess im finding a new
hypervisor today
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2496 [16:39:55] <hyperlumic> |aaron: I was never able to get
bonding working on Proxmox correctly, incidentally.
2497 [16:40:07] <|aaron> it worked fine for me for years until i
upgraded yesterday
2498 [16:40:12] <jelly> |aaron: what are your interfaces actually
called right now? "ip link show"
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2500 [16:40:27] <mappores> is there a simple way to download all
the manpages in debian, for example an archive? Or are man pages
stored within every package?
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2502 [16:40:32] <jelly> or "ip l"
2503 [16:40:40] <|aaron> jelly: which ones? eth1+eth2+eth3 are the
bonded nic, bond0 is the bond group, vmbr0 is the bridge
2504 [16:40:56] <jelly> all of them. pastebin the output.
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2506 [16:41:18] <|aaron> jelly:
replaced-url
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2508 [16:41:59] <jelly> okay, that looks sane
2509 [16:42:22] <n4dir> mappores: if you install a package, then
it comes with the manpage. There is also "apt-cache show
manpages", which seems to explain the difference
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2512 [16:42:37] <n4dir> and, to make it worse, there are also the
posix manpages and the funny manpages ...
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2514 [16:43:16] <mappores> n4dir: do i have to install a package
to install the manpage? Can I get only the collection of manpages?
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2516 [16:43:20] <SpeakerToMeat> if a package source has
debian/patches/series it's quilt based, right?
2517 [16:43:29] <n4dir> mappores: i don't know, sorry.
2518 [16:43:44] <n4dir> some claim the posix manpages are
"better" (whatever that might mean).
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2521 [16:44:07] <jelly> |aaron: which kernel are you using right
now? uname -a?
2522 [16:44:12] <ikarosuusi> libudev-dev : Depends: libudev1 (=
232-25+deb9u2) but 232-25+deb9u3 is to be installed
2523 [16:44:15] <ikarosuusi> E: Unable to correct problems, you
have held broken packages.
2524 [16:44:16] <ikarosuusi> HELP
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2526 [16:44:22] <|aaron> jelly: Linux queen 4.13.16-1-pve #1 SMP
PVE 4.13.16-45 (Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:47:11 +0200) x86_64 GNU/Linux
2527 [16:44:22] <ikarosuusi> I NEED TO FUCKING INSTALL THAT SHIT
2528 [16:44:34] <jelly> ikarosuusi: read this and provide all the
info:
2529 [16:44:40] <jelly> !basic apt troubleshooting
2530 [16:44:40] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
2531 [16:44:45] <Tenkawa> ikarosuusi: you are going to be
banned....
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2533 [16:45:25] <ikarosuusi> Tenkawa take your autistic brain to a
hike
2534 [16:45:30] <Tenkawa> just calm down..
2535 [16:45:37] <hyperlumic> ikarosuusi: Bad move.
2536 [16:45:54] <Tenkawa> its a lot easier to fix this if you
think this through
2537 [16:46:04] <jelly> ikarosuusi: keep your comments in here to
technically relevant for your problem here. I understand you're
frustrated but venting does not make people moreeager to help.
2538 [16:46:05] <ikarosuusi> you don't think I'm in some
serious pain here? I'm trying as CALM as possible
2539 [16:46:22] <ikarosuusi> I just see 0 response only morf
saying he is depressed seeing me having this problem
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2541 [16:46:27] <n4dir> stop chatting and give the info jelly
asked for.
2542 [16:46:28] <ikarosuusi> so yeah you may wonder why I react
like this
2543 [16:46:33] <Tenkawa> its looking for a package too many
versions higher... '
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2545 [16:46:45] <ikarosuusi> so I'm now going to do what
jelly told me,...
2546 [16:46:52] <Tenkawa> first.. you need to figure out why
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2548 [16:47:01] <ikarosuusi> 10:43 < n4dir> mappores: i
don't know, sorry.
2549 [16:47:10] <jelly> ikarosuusi: keep your comments in here to
technically relevant for your problem here, no need to talk about
how noone's helping
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2555 [16:48:02] <mappores> ikarosuusi: ?
2556 [16:48:09] <ikarosuusi> yeah i know dude it's just that
I had this great flow going on and then this happened
2557 [16:48:32] <ikarosuusi> ehh idk mappores you go and figure
linux clipboard out
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2560 [16:49:10] <jelly> |aaron: I've seen some old
kernels/eth drivers where link had to be manually brought up first
to make bonding and 802.1q vlans work
2561 [16:49:30] <jelly> |aaron: seeing as you're using a
custom kernel, perhaps it has similar bugs
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2563 [16:49:34] <|aaron> jelly: so if i do that it will work, but
only intermittently
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2565 [16:49:59] <Tenkawa> brb.. rebooting to linux
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2569 [16:50:20] <Lavinho> good afternoon
2570 [16:50:24] <jelly> |aaron: I'd say contact your kernel
vendor, as a starting point
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2573 [16:50:39] <|aaron> yeah they have not been helpful at all,
thats what i spent all day yesterday doing
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2575 [16:51:22] <Lavinho> I installed debian 9 on lenovo thinkpad
x60 with libreboot, but when it starts it gets the black screen
2576 [16:51:25] <jelly> in any case, proxmon does so many changes
we don't consider it supportable here
2577 [16:51:26] <jhutchins_wk> 2~/whois ikarosuusi
2578 [16:51:37] * jelly can't type today
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2581 [16:52:12] <Lavinho> help me please
2582 [16:53:01] <|aaron> jelly, i understand, thank you
2583 [16:53:16] <jhutchins_wk> Lavinho: Black screen with no
cursor? Can you switch to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1?
2584 [16:53:49] <Lavinho> stopped cursor
2585 [16:54:10] <ikarosuusi> ok here's the complete output
for the libudev-dev "package held" thingy:
replaced-url
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2587 [16:54:27] <ikarosuusi> thanks for pitching in jelly at least
one sane response :)
2588 [16:54:45] <Lavinho> no switch
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2590 [16:55:28] <themill> ikarosuusi: you need to add
stretch-updates back into your sources.list
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2592 [16:55:58] <jelly> security.debian.org seems to be missing as
well
2593 [16:55:59] <ikarosuusi> is it just the same with -updates
after stretch?
2594 [16:56:08] <jelly> !stretch sources.list
2595 [16:56:08] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for
"Stretch" has three lines: "deb
replaced-url
2596 [16:56:24] <ikarosuusi> owwee
2597 [16:56:50] <ikarosuusi> oh my this is so much new stuff right
here
2598 [16:57:03] <Lavinho> jhutchins_wk: help me please
2599 [16:57:09] <jelly> why is systemd in vola^H^H^H^H-updates
2600 [16:57:14] <ikarosuusi> should my mirror provide all of
those?
2601 [16:57:21] <jelly> it ought to yes
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2603 [16:57:38] <jelly> except for security.d.o
2604 [16:57:41] <BCMM> ikarosuusi: is it an official debian mirror
from the list?
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2616 [16:58:31] <themill> ikarosuusi: by the looks of what you
have installed, you used to have those in your sources.list and
removed them recently
2617 [16:58:32] <ikarosuusi> BCMM yeah it is but for some reason
in my sources.list (what i have commented out) there is
security.debian.org instead of tumpetti.atm.tut.fi
2618 [16:58:41] <greycat> If "my mirror" means "I
chose a mirror from the list because the auto redirector thingy kept
giving me broken/slow mirrors" then sure.
2619 [16:58:51] <greycat> If "my mirror" means "I
am trying to build my own Debian mirror", then stop that.
2620 [16:59:01] <BCMM> ikarosuusi: yes, as jelly says, security
usually comes straight from debian.org
2621 [16:59:02] <ikarosuusi> :D yeah greycat the former :D
2622 [16:59:05] <BCMM> i don't know why, actually
2623 [16:59:08] <SpeakerToMeat> ikarosuusi: And updates and
security are important repos to have
2624 [16:59:12] <ikarosuusi> oh wow so much help
2625 [16:59:15] <ikarosuusi> ok nice
2626 [16:59:17] <ikarosuusi> will try now
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2629 [17:00:02] <jhutchins_wk> !libreboot
2630 [17:00:17] <Lavinho> yes
2631 [17:01:08] <jhutchins_wk> Lavinho: Not a Debian thing, but I
would guess that your problem is with video drivers. You'll
need to boot to rescue mode or use a live image (or the installer).
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2636 [17:02:14] <ikarosuusi> hey where is this guy why is it not
in my sources.list but it still keeps coming up even after I
mentally admitted that I made an error and then checked sources.list
that it's not there anymore Ign:19
replaced-url
2637 [17:02:30] <ikarosuusi> " :D "
2638 [17:02:39] <Lavinho> even in recovery mode does not
initialize
2639 [17:02:44] <jelly> ikarosuusi: somewhere under
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
2640 [17:02:54] <ikarosuusi> thanks
2641 [17:03:03] <ikarosuusi> btw libudev-dev installing as i type
2642 [17:03:09] <ikarosuusi> soooo grateful :)
2643 [17:03:14] <ikarosuusi> all the pain flowing away
2644 [17:03:17] <ikarosuusi> smile shining
2645 [17:03:19] <ikarosuusi> ahhh
2646 [17:03:22] <ikarosuusi> this is life
2647 [17:03:28] <jelly> that'll be $3.50
2648 [17:03:31] <hyperlumic> ikarosuusi: Yeah, as a future note,
don't use Ubuntu sources or PPAs in Debian... There be dragons.
2649 [17:04:03] <ikarosuusi> hyperlumic yeah I though the link was
for debian so I grabbed the first line that seemed like a debian
line ;)
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2652 [17:04:30] <ikarosuusi> I managed to ctrl-c the installation
process but yeah
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2657 [17:05:29] <ikarosuusi> i have to say you debian people are
the best people in the world
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2659 [17:06:08] <BCMM> !why not use a ppa
2660 [17:06:08] <dpkg> PPAs (Ubuntu's Personal Package
Archives, see <PPA>) are not built against Debian releases,
they are built against Ubuntu releases. This makes using packages
from them on a Debian box highly unlikely to work out well. Ask me
about <ssb> <package recompile> <bobbitt>.
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2667 [17:07:38] <ikarosuusi> is this something I should be
concerned with?:
2668 [17:07:46] <jelly> ikarosuusi: we just pretend well.
2669 [17:07:47] <ikarosuusi> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
\ perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: \ LANGUAGE
= "", \ LC_ALL = (unset), \ LANG = "en_FI.UTF-8"
\ are supported and installed on your system. \ perl: warning:
Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). \ locale:
Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory \
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or
2670 [17:07:53] <ikarosuusi> directory \ locale: Cannot set LC_ALL
to default locale: No such file or directory
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2672 [17:08:03] <SpeakerToMeat> Sigh I need to find why I
can't compile well on my debian at work
2673 [17:08:10] <jelly> what sort of locale is en_FI
2674 [17:08:13] <ikarosuusi> seems like harmless error to me but
will it kick me in the toe later on?
2675 [17:08:19] <ikarosuusi> it's finnish locale
2676 [17:08:36] <greycat> English As Spoken In Finland ?
2677 [17:08:45] <ikarosuusi> they made it that way because fi_FI
sounds like something thats trying to be a dog but can barely bark
2678 [17:08:50] <tw> SpeakerToMeat: that's a pretty generic
problem
2679 [17:09:00] <ikarosuusi> IDK honestly
2680 [17:09:02] <jelly> ikarosuusi: you can't just invent
locale and hope it works
2681 [17:09:13] <ikarosuusi> jelly it became like that during
debian install
2682 [17:09:21] <ikarosuusi> english language but finnish
localisation
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2684 [17:09:41] <jelly> locale -a |grep en_ does not show it for
me on stretch, and I have locales-all installed
2685 [17:09:53] <greycat> I'm looking at dpkg-reconfigure
locales in stretch right now and I do *NOT* see en_FI in this list.
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2687 [17:10:04] <ikarosuusi> yeah that's something debian
came up with automatically during install..
2688 [17:10:11] <greycat> Well then fix it.
2689 [17:10:14] * babilen is particular fond of en_DE and en_SCOT :)
2690 [17:10:27] <SpeakerToMeat> tw: Yeah I can't figure how
to begin debugging this. the trouble is, packages I compile on at
work have dependecies at install that they don't at home, and
it looks like it's some "confusion" about
architecture. I'm building on and for amd64 in both cases, but
at work they gain dependecies like lib64gcc1 lib64stdc++6 and
libc6-amd64
2691 [17:10:27] <ikarosuusi> babilen understands me :)
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2693 [17:10:35] <greycat> Well I fucking don't. Fix it.
2694 [17:10:40] <ikarosuusi> haha ok
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2699 [17:11:57] <ikarosuusi> greycat should I google how to or...
2700 [17:12:06] <greycat> export LANG=C
2701 [17:12:13] <greycat> after that you can fine-tune it to your
actual needs
2702 [17:12:32] <Tenkawa> yeah I dont see that one in my list
either
2703 [17:12:38] <greycat> the most important thing is to have an
ACTUAL locale chosen, and your made-up bullshit en_FI is not one of
them
2704 [17:12:41] <jelly> LANG=C.UTF-8 is probably saner at this
point
2705 [17:12:45] <annadane> what is the command to use to figure
out what another command does when there's not a man page?
2706 [17:12:54] <tw> SpeakerToMeat: do you have those installed on
your home system? Those are both standard automatic links.
2707 [17:12:55] <greycat> annadane: if it's a shell builtin,
use "help"
2708 [17:12:57] <jelly> instead of 7-bit ascii
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2710 [17:13:09] <annadane> ty
2711 [17:13:49] <jelly> ikarosuusi: you could have LANG set to
en_US.UTF-8 but LC_TIME or LC_COLLATE to fi_FI.UTF-8 for specific
bits in /etc/default/locale
2712 [17:14:17] <ikarosuusi> should I then choose fifi instead of
c?
2713 [17:14:20] <jelly> I do it the other way round, have
LANG=hr_HR.UTF-8 but LC_MESSAGES and some others set to C
2714 [17:14:23] <greycat> hopefully in your personal ~/.profile or
whatever instead of system-wide to inflict your weird preferences on
everyone
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2716 [17:14:36] <jelly> er. I'm going to fix that to C.UTF-8
right now of course
2717 [17:14:49] <jelly> it's their system
2718 [17:14:55] <jelly> they can do whatever they want
2719 [17:15:10] <ikarosuusi> my system is me wide
2720 [17:15:16] <greycat> You think that now.
2721 [17:15:27] <ikarosuusi> point
2722 [17:15:36] <SpeakerToMeat> tw: I have lib64gcc1:i386
installed yes, lib64gcc1:amd64 doesn't exist in the
repositories I have. and when installing my built package dpkg asks
for "plain" lib64gcc1 which should default to
lib64gcc1:amd64 here but most importantly, if I build the same
package on my home machine lib64gcc1 is not added to dependecies
2723 [17:15:43] <greycat> This is a BAD habit that you are
embedding into your brain and it will cause problems later on if you
ever become a system administrator, or if you ever add an account
for your sister, or whatever.
2724 [17:15:49] <jelly> multiuser workstations only exist in
enterprise
2725 [17:16:09] <SpeakerToMeat> tw: To me it looks like the build
tools think I'm trying to build a 64 bit package for a 32 bit
system or something like it
2726 [17:16:23] <ikarosuusi> what jelly is saying is true,
I've been sitting in from of these monitors for quite the while
without this system being wider than it is now
2727 [17:16:28] <ikarosuusi> I mean for decades
2728 [17:16:39] <ikarosuusi> like 2 of them
2729 [17:16:46] <jelly> and if their sister speaks a different
language, she can customize her own env in HOME :-)
2730 [17:17:36] <Tenkawa> everything should start generalized and
allow users to set their own personalization (imho)
2731 [17:17:38] <greycat> but the hard-coded crap in
/etc/default/locale has already broken the settings that sis
carefully set up on her client system and propagated through ssh
2732 [17:17:43] <jelly> but yeah, machines at work won't have
silly global defaults like that
2733 [17:17:57] <Tenkawa> dont force something on them immediately
2734 [17:18:00] <|aaron> jellly: you were right about my older
kernel needing the slave interfaces brought up first. also
apparently in debian 9 i need to declare bond-mode on each bond
slave interface when i do it that way. thats why it was working
intermittently before, it was coming up but defaulting to
round-robin mode
2735 [17:18:09] <jelly> greycat: it shouldn't. ssh overrides
pam_env
2736 [17:18:41] <jelly> try it.
2737 [17:19:06] <SpeakerToMeat> jelly: I think he means config
files copied over scp?
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2739 [17:19:16] <SpeakerToMeat> jelly: No I think you're
right, nevermind
2740 [17:19:21] <ikarosuusi> what book should I read so I could
join you marvels?
2741 [17:19:32] <jelly> SpeakerToMeat: no, openssh client passes
LANG and LC_* env. vars from client to remote
2742 [17:19:34] <greycat> No, I mean exactly what I said, but if
it has changed since etch/lenny or whenever I last tested it, then
jelly may be correct.
2743 [17:19:39] <SpeakerToMeat> ikarosuusi: Only time will do
thast, time and lots and lots of tiny fights
2744 [17:19:40] <greycat> "Try it" is a hell of a long
struggle now...
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2746 [17:19:45] <SpeakerToMeat> jelly: yeah
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2749 [17:20:19] <jelly> remember when OSX clients had issues
logging in to Debian because different locale names?
2750 [17:20:25] <jelly> Pepperidge farm remembers.
2751 [17:21:05] <themill> I made a factoid about that 7 years ago
so it was common enough then
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2753 [17:21:21] <jelly> |aaron: I'm going to preemptively
blame ifupdown and/or systemd for this breakage
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2756 [17:21:36] <|aaron> hahaha. if in doubt, blame systemd lol
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2758 [17:21:58] <JordiGH> Even if I could just image a stinkpad
X1's ssd with the current Debian install I have on an
x220/x250, it probably wouldn't work, right?
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2760 [17:22:06] <|aaron> seriously thank you though, your comment
really helped to figure that out. been driving me nuts
2761 [17:22:08] <JordiGH> I really am not looking forward to doing
a Debian installation.
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2764 [17:22:32] <ikarosuusi> debian has been the best thing
I've encountered in a loooong while
2765 [17:22:33] <SpeakerToMeat> Yep it's only my machien that
adds those dependecies. I wonder why
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2767 [17:22:39] <jelly> |aaron: (at some pointinthe past ifupdown
took vlan and bonding config over from scripts in ifenslave-2.6, not
sure if between wheezy and jessie, or between jessie and stretch)
2768 [17:22:45] <ikarosuusi> even wacom worked just by plugging it
in
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2770 [17:22:54] <tw> SpeakerToMeat: yeah, it sounds like
you're trying to cross compile 64 bit on a 32 bit host. If
you're using a native architecture, you should have a
libgcc1:amd64 that it should be linking against.
2771 [17:22:56] <SpeakerToMeat> ANy way I can determine what
system thought those dependencies are needed so I can see if I can
determine why?
2772 [17:23:12] <SpeakerToMeat> tw: Correct, but I am on amd64
arch, compiling for amd64 arch
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2776 [17:23:20] <ikarosuusi> now it seems OBS is installing
without some hassle I personally didn't create
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2778 [17:23:50] <greycat> Hmm, the /etc/pam.d/sshd file on my
Debian 5.0.10 box is a dangling symlink pointing to "ssh"
which does not exist.
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2782 [17:24:24] <tw> SpeakerToMeat: if you're sure of that,
you should be able to dump the lib64gcc1. I have to add i386 as a
foreign architecture before I can even install that.
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2785 [17:24:40] <SpeakerToMeat> tw: How do I dump it though?
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2787 [17:24:53] <tw> uninstall it and rebuild without it.
2788 [17:25:01] <SpeakerToMeat> tw: It's not on the
package's dependencies, it's auto added by the build
system
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2790 [17:25:24] <|aaron> jelly: yeah definitely seems like its a
bit different in stretch
2791 [17:25:28] <greycat> I'm going to try "cp
sshd.dpkg-new ssh". But I'll keep this shell open....
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2795 [17:26:01] <jelly> dpkg, qotd301 is
<reply><ikarosuusi> you autistic shithead motherfuckers
in the literal sense [...] <ikarosuusi> i have to say you
debian people are the best people in the world
2796 [17:26:02] <dpkg> jelly: okay
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2798 [17:26:35] <jelly> that needed to be immoralized
2799 [17:26:42] <jelly> immortalized, too
2800 [17:26:52] <annadane> it was already immoralized
2801 [17:27:35] <greycat> dpkg, qotd302 is
<reply><jelly> that needed to be immoralized
<jelly> immortalized, too <annadane> it was already
immoralized
2802 [17:27:35] <dpkg> okay, greycat
2803 [17:28:01] <annadane> ikarosuusi,
2804 [17:28:04] <annadane> !newcomer
2805 [17:28:04] <dpkg> Welcome to Debian! Here's some
resources to help you on your merry way: The Debian Handbook:
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2806 [17:28:05] <annadane> :D
2807 [17:28:16] <ikarosuusi> jelly yeah I have to admit your help
made me feel like I never want to be angry again in my life
2808 [17:29:05] <ikarosuusi> I mean I though that just a second
ago while grabbing a cup of coffee
2809 [17:29:17] <tw> SpeakerToMeat: you might want to check the
search path for ld.so. If you have both libgcc1:amd64 and
lib64gcc1:i386, I bet it picks up the first one it finds.
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2811 [17:30:20] <ikarosuusi> annadane I'll store that bit
right away
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2813 [17:30:35] <greycat> jelly: OK, tried it. On the
aforementioned Debian 5.0.10 box. I created the /etc/pam.d/ssh file
as indicated above, and then created an /etc/default/locale file
with LANG=en_US.utf8 in it. Then I ssh-ed in from my HP-UX box with
LANG=en_US.iso88591 and the resulting shell on the Deb5 has
LANG=en_US.utf8
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2816 [17:31:14] <greycat> Having now tried it (again), I am going
to remove the /etc/default/locale file so that shit is no longer
broken.
2817 [17:31:16] <jelly> greycat: upgrade! HP-UX is dead!
2818 [17:31:24] * jelly hides
2819 [17:31:31] <greycat> Or maybe I'll just truncate it to 0
bytes.
2820 [17:31:54] <tw> if only that were true.
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2822 [17:32:08] <greycat> Now when I login from HP-UX -> Deb5 I
get LANG=en_US.iso88591 as I should.
2823 [17:32:10] <jelly> oh, it's not dead yet
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2828 [17:33:44] <arkoldthos> not just yet :(
2829 [17:34:15] <greycat> Hmm, deb6 and deb9 both seem to have
/etc/pam.d/sshd but not /etc/pam.d/ssh
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2831 [17:34:27] <greycat> I wonder why the symlink went sshd ->
ssh
2832 [17:35:06] <greycat> Oh well. Not going to mess with the deb5
any further. On to the deb6.
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2838 [17:37:01] <greycat> Results on deb6 are the same as on deb5
-- a LANG=en_US.UTF-8 entry in /etc/default/locale CLOBBERS what ssh
sends, and I end up with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 instead of
LANG=en_US.iso88591
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2843 [17:38:19] <SpeakerToMeat> tw: They were beiogn added because
they were there...
2844 [17:39:06] <tw> SpeakerToMeat: you should figure out why you
had that package installed. Usually it is only installed for foreign
architecture support.
2845 [17:39:42] <greycat> Results on deb7 are the same as deb5 and
deb6. A LANG= value in /etc/default/locale overrides ssh.
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2848 [17:40:40] <ikarosuusi> wow now I really need to chill down,
after all the trouble my head is almost hurting :D
2849 [17:40:44] <greycat> Results on deb8 are the same as deb5,
deb6, and deb7.
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2852 [17:41:20] <SpeakerToMeat> tw: But on a native 64 bit arch it
makes no sense to have the i386 version of amd64 libraries so an
amd64 program can be compiled as i386 to run as a 64 bit program
running on 32 bit inside a 64 bit system-.....
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2854 [17:41:32] <annadane> you can honestly learn a lot not just
by the documentation but by being in irc a lot
2855 [17:41:42] <annadane> i may add that to the factoid
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2857 [17:41:56] <SpeakerToMeat> greycat: it might be either an
sshd or a profile setting?
2858 [17:42:13] <greycat> Results on deb9 are the same as deb5
through deb8. OK, jelly. I have officially "tried it".
Nothing has changed.
2859 [17:42:26] <ikarosuusi> instead of psytrance I'll listen
to some j-pop jazz piano while figuring out the streaming to twitch
part of OBS studio install process
2860 [17:42:31] <SpeakerToMeat> Sigh I need to backup all this 1Tb
of hdd and upgrade to stretch soon
2861 [17:42:37] <jelly> greycat: well now, I stand corrected!
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2863 [17:43:15] <freitag772> Hello, I am trying to extend the hard
drive space of a local-lvm, I have tried several tutorials but
it's just not working. Can anyone help out?
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2865 [17:43:38] <tw> SpeakerToMeat: that's not what is
happening. It's the "same" library in a different
location. The dynamic linker is finding it first and it satisfies
the link requirements of your program. I suspect the automatic
dependency calculator special-cases libc, libgcc, and libc++ and
just autocalcs the dep based on ldd's output.
2866 [17:43:43] <ikarosuusi> just recently I got rid of all my
data, like 4TB of drawings and stuff, so it's pretty prime that
this debian is working correctly, as this is only thing I've
left from all these years.
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2869 [17:44:04] <annadane> freitag772, first off i'd say
don't follow tutorials unless you know they're correct;
the internet can be wrong/outdated and can lead to screwing up your
system
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2871 [17:44:49] <freitag772> annadane, Yea, I have already messed
this VM up several times with parted
2872 [17:45:07] <freitag772> annadane, but luckily I have a clone
so it's all good
2873 [17:45:15] <SpeakerToMeat> Question, what is the
"best" way in stretch to "force" a default Xorg
resolution or dummy monitor?
2874 [17:45:37] <tw> SpeakerToMeat: xrandr, most likely.
2875 [17:45:48] <jelly> and it's #408209
2876 [17:45:49] <judd> Bug
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2877 [17:45:58] <jelly> er, #408029
2878 [17:45:59] <judd> Bug
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2880 [17:46:25] <ikarosuusi> also I'd like to add that it
doesn't even feel like the debian from 2011, things seem
consistent now, and fluid but solid, like jelly
2881 [17:46:34] <freitag772> annadane, do you know how to extend
the hard drive space of an already encrypted volume?
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2883 [17:47:10] <annadane> 'fraid not
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2886 [17:47:47] <tw> if you extend the underlying storage, it
automatically grows when you luksOpen.
2887 [17:49:28] <SpeakerToMeat> tw: via cli? hmm that might be a
good idea, I'll try
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2889 [17:50:18] <SpeakerToMeat> My trouble is, I'm setting up
a headless machine with full gui, to nomachien into it, but
nomachine doesn't work like this because xorg will not set a
reoslution or screen if there's no attached screen,. so I need
to "fix" a resolution or dummy screen
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2892 [17:51:19] <jelly> freitag772: if you extend the underlying
block device, on next luksOpen luks will use the new size
automagically apparently
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2902 [17:56:03] <greycat> The more I think about it, the more I
think that Pluggable AUTHENTICATION Modules is not really the right
place to be setting up a session environment.
2903 [17:56:31] <jelly> that ship has sadly passed a long time ago
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2905 [17:56:58] <tw> freitag772: it's more that
luks/cryptsetup is not specifically size-aware. It builds a dm entry
based on whatever it is backed with. You can specify a size
manually, but in my experience that's extremely uncommon. There
may be an option to online-resize a mapping, but I've never
tried it. Once the crypto mapping is updated, you'll have to
grow your filesystem normally (eg, resize2fs).
2906 [17:57:12] <greycat> Did it? I mean, it's a ship with 11
year old untouched bugs, and now we have all this new systemd
infrastructure.
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2909 [17:57:44] <jelly> that just means pam_systemd gets added to
the mix
2910 [17:58:05] <freitag772> tw, can you help out specifically?
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2914 [17:58:21] <freitag772> tw, i tried to extend sda5_crypt but
it gives an error
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2916 [17:58:44] <tw> greycat: and fantastically difficult
documentation. Like creating an (X+Y or Z) authentication scheme.
Skip how many lines you say?
2917 [17:58:49] <jelly> freitag772: can you pastebin your
"lsblk" output
2918 [17:58:59] <freitag772> jelly, sure, one sec
2919 [18:00:09] <freitag772> jelly,
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2924 [18:02:44] <jelly> freitag772: so you need to grow block
devices from the bottom level up. Extend /dev/sda5 first, then
(re)boot which will make luks see new size, then pvresize
/dev/mapper/sda5_crypt, then you can lvextend the LV (and the
filesystem right away if you add -r)
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2927 [18:03:41] <freitag772> jelly, that makes sense.. do I use
parted for that?
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2929 [18:03:51] <tw> freitag772: make sure your backups are up to
date before attempting that operation.
2930 [18:04:16] <jelly> freitag772: parted ought to work for the
partition resize. Or fdisk or sfdisk or whatever.
2931 [18:05:00] <jelly> with older tools you have to delete the
existing partition and make a larger one starting from exactly the
same place
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2942 [18:07:37] <jelly> freitag772: if you're using virtual
machines, messing with partitions can be avoided by creating VMs
with two disks, a small one for just boot loader and one partition
for /boot, and second large one used directly as LVM PV or luks,
without any partitions
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2944 [18:08:09] <jelly> growing the whole disk is easier than
growing partitions
2945 [18:08:50] <freitag772> Right, I am new to all this
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2950 [18:09:10] <freitag772> jelly, Looks like in parted it has an
extended size
2951 [18:09:20] <freitag772> df -h does not show the reflection
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2953 [18:09:33] <tw> df is only mounted filesystems.
2954 [18:09:45] <jelly> freitag772: the kernel usually cannot see
new state of partition table on disk if any partitions are in use
2955 [18:10:10] <jelly> but you also have two more layers between
partition and df (filesystem)
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2957 [18:11:01] <jelly> freitag772: if you grew the partition, you
can continue with later steps by rebooting
2958 [18:11:20] <freitag772> this is what it looks like in parted:
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2959 [18:11:21] <jelly> (in theory, "partprobe" ought to
work but usually doesn't)
2960 [18:11:40] <freitag772> I will reboot the vm real quick
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2963 [18:12:07] <jelly> freitag772: why did you leave half the
disk still unpartitioned?
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2965 [18:12:56] <freitag772> I thought I gave 50% of it to the
"extended" and the other 50% to logical
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2968 [18:13:30] <tw> in MBR, extended is the storage space for all
logical parts.
2969 [18:13:44] <jelly> "extended" is actually a
container for logical
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2971 [18:14:08] <jelly> you should not have to care about the
extended /dev/sda2 manually with parted
2972 [18:15:08] <freitag772> I am not sure what to do now
2973 [18:15:35] <jelly> grow sda5 to fill the remaining space
presumably
2974 [18:15:48] <jelly> and reboot again
2975 [18:15:51] <freitag772> ... /dev/mapper/sda5_crypt (10.5GB)
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2977 [18:16:08] <jelly> that was expected, yes
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2980 [18:16:29] <jelly> because you did > then (re)boot which
will make luks see new size,
2981 [18:17:03] <freitag772> trying to grow sda5 to 100% gives
this error: Error: Can't have overlapping partitions.
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2984 [18:18:31] <freitag772> Ok, so I extended number 2 first,
then 5
2985 [18:18:43] <freitag772> 5 257MB 21.5GB 21.2GB logical
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2987 [18:19:11] <freitag772> And that is all the space
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2989 [18:19:56] <freitag772> You may need to update /etc/fstab.
Can I use mount -a?
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2991 [18:20:16] <jelly> no and no need to
2992 [18:20:36] <freitag772> just restart again?
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2994 [18:20:56] <jelly> yes, you're just repeating the first
two steps
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2997 [18:21:25] <freitag772> Right, and then what should I do
after?
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3006 [18:22:26] <jelly> all the other steps I wrote, probably
3007 [18:22:55] <jelly> > freitag772: so you need to grow block
devices from the bottom level up. Extend /dev/sda5 first, then
(re)boot which will make luks see new size, then pvresize
/dev/mapper/sda5_crypt, then you can lvextend the LV (and the
filesystem right away if you add -r)
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3011 [18:23:39] <jelly> freitag772: you can verify sizes of LVM PV
with "pvs" before and after resizing, and of LVM LV with
"lvs"
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3013 [18:24:57] <freitag772> lvextend /dev/mapper/web1--vg-root ?
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3023 [18:26:58] <jelly> freitag772: yes, if you add -r to that,
lvextend will automatically call resize2fs for you and grow the
filesystem structures
3024 [18:27:13] <jelly> um, sorry, no
3025 [18:27:32] <jelly> you need to tell lvextend how much of the
space available to use
3026 [18:27:38] <freitag772> lvextend -L15G
/dev/mapper/web1--vg-root
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3031 [18:28:32] <jelly> yes. You can tell it to -l 100%FREE but
leaving some free space makes you able to use lvm snapshots if you
want
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3033 [18:29:26] <freitag772> and then the end needs to be
resize2fs?
3034 [18:29:37] <jelly> or just add -r to lvextend
3035 [18:30:17] <freitag772> appears to have worked
3036 [18:30:39] <jelly> (it figures out which command to use, if
you have xfs it will use xfs_growfs or something, if you have ext3
or ext4 it will use resize2fs)
3037 [18:30:48] <jelly> then that's it
3038 [18:30:57] <tw> lvm snapshot is risky business <.<
3039 [18:31:03] <jelly> not really
3040 [18:31:06] <freitag772> jelly, thanks so much
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3042 [18:31:15] <annadane> i don't plan on doing this but
just for theoretical interest how difficult would it be to backport
the latest python for personal use?
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3044 [18:31:17] <tw> iirc, if it runs out of blocks, it will
corrupt without warning.
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3048 [18:31:58] <jelly> annadane: backporting python itself not
too much. Verifying it doesn't break anything that uses
/usr/bin/python3? Real hard.
3049 [18:32:06] <annadane> yeah
3050 [18:32:25] <annadane> but yeah just a theoretical question.
i'm perfectly fine with the one in stable
3051 [18:32:37] <jelly> tw: the snapshot just goes read-only or
offline, don't remember
3052 [18:32:50] <jelly> tw: the base device is unaffected
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3057 [18:34:34] <jelly> it's happened more than once, at
$work we do monthly image backups for physical servers using lvm
snaps and if there are too many changes, the snapshot fills up its
allocated percentage and goes tits up
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3059 [18:34:57] <tw> jelly: I'd think they would both have to
go offline, because both are COW.
3060 [18:35:13] <jelly> lvm2 does things the other way
3061 [18:35:34] <jelly> changes always go to the original dev
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3068 [18:38:48] <tw> jelly: Are you using preallocated LVs? Are
you using contiguous LVs?
3069 [18:39:16] <jelly> not using thin provisioning if that's
what you're asking
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3071 [18:40:06] <jelly> so LVs are preallocated, but contiguous
doesn't matter
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3073 [18:40:25] <tw> My understanding is that it prevents block
relocation.
3074 [18:40:36] <jelly> what does?
3075 [18:40:43] <tw> contiguous.
3076 [18:41:29] <tw> Not on the drive itself, I mean remapping
stuff in place.
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3078 [18:41:54] <jelly> I have no idea how that would work with
snapshots
3079 [18:42:16] <jelly> because they clearly have to break that
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3081 [18:43:20] <RoyK> lvm snapshots aren't really good, they
create a *ton* of iops - iirc an extra IOP per snapshot, which
isn't very good
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3083 [18:44:22] <RoyK> write -> lvm without a snapshot, wrote
-> snapshot -> snapshot -> snapshot -> lvm with three
snapshots
3084 [18:44:29] <RoyK> tht shit doesn't scale too well
3085 [18:44:29] <jelly> that's the drawback, each write to
orig dev has to become one read and two writes
3086 [18:44:40] <jelly> yeah, n+1 writes
3087 [18:44:52] <RoyK> compare that to zfs ;)
3088 [18:44:58] <tw> It'd be nice if it merged those
secondary writes.
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3090 [18:45:09] <jelly> but on the other hand, shit doesn't
stop in case of out-of-space conditions
3091 [18:45:19] <tw> so it was always at most +1 read +1 write.
3092 [18:45:36] <RoyK> TmvC: no, it doesn't work that way -
with zfs, new writes goes to new blocks and a pointer is changed -
same wth btrfs, but not as efficient
3093 [18:45:59] <jelly> so I can live with snapshots being second
hand citizen
3094 [18:46:22] <RoyK> tm, that was for you btww
3095 [18:46:40] <RoyK> jelly: with zfs, you can have thousands of
snaps without affecting performance
3096 [18:46:40] <jelly> tm<tab> does not expand to tm? :-)
3097 [18:46:48] <jelly> tw *
3098 [18:46:49] <greycat> on the other other hand, LVM is actually
*there* and *tested* and has been for years, and zfs is... some
wacko left-field alien future sci-fi crap that may one day exist
3099 [18:46:56] <RoyK> that is, you'll need another 1GB of
RAM per 10k snapshots, though
3100 [18:47:24] <jelly> zfs has probably been used and tested more
than linux implementation of lvm2. Just not necessarily on Linux :-)
3101 [18:47:26] <RoyK> greycat: I've been working with zfs
for 10 years - it works well
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3103 [18:47:31] <tw> RoyK: And you have to do a synchronous
(journaled) metadata write if you want to be compliant.
3104 [18:47:38] <tw> *coherent
3105 [18:47:50] <RoyK> tw: zfs has that
3106 [18:47:55] <greycat> RoyK: oh, then I should migrate my
production mission-critical app on wheezy from LVM to zfs, right?
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3108 [18:48:47] <jelly> I'd trust zfs over btrfs or bcachefs
or whatever new thing, esp. if I had some experience with it
3109 [18:48:54] <RoyK> greycat: up to you, but I haven't seen
any issues on zfs so far, after those years, half of them on linux,
that is, unless I've done something exceedingly stupid as
turning on dedup
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3111 [18:49:13] <RoyK> I've tried that as well
3112 [18:49:16] <RoyK> not a good idea
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3116 [18:49:45] <greycat> No thanks. I'll stick with things
that are actually supported.
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3118 [18:49:56] <jelly> RoyK: there's probably a reason why
vmware's vsan only does dedup and compression on all-flash
setups
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3120 [18:50:22] <jelly> disks + ssd? nope, no compression, no
dedup
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3122 [18:50:48] <RoyK> greycat: and btw, I setup a wheezy machine
some four years back with zfs, striped mirrors, 80TiB net storage,
and it's worked like a dream for that time, around 100% I/O
24x7 - some 140 CCTV cameras streaming to it
3123 [18:50:53] <jelly> (they use a single ssd for both cache and
write logging unlike zfs)
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3125 [18:51:15] <RoyK> jelly: no idea about VSAN - only slightly
tested it in the lab
3126 [18:51:45] <RoyK> zfs with lz4 compression is preferred over
non-compressed - it's usually faster than non-compressed on
spinning rust, and sometimes on ssd's
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3128 [18:52:04] <jelly> lz4 is something like lzop right?
3129 [18:52:30] <RoyK>
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3132 [18:53:32] <jelly> lzo* then
3133 [18:53:38] <jelly> and lz4 page says yes
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3139 [18:54:32] <RoyK> jelly: [lz4] gives a slightly worse
compression ratio than the LZO algorithm – which in turn is
worse than algorithms like gzip. However, compression speeds are
similar to LZO and several times faster than gzip while
decompression speeds can be significantly faster than LZO.[1]
3140 [18:54:57] <protectionfault> Hi. Is this the right place to
ask about spectre v2? I have an affected cpu and I would like to get
some practical advice on my relative risk and mitigation options. I
am running Debian9, have hyperthreading disabled and the microcode
is installed. Am I still vulnerable, if yes, in what way? Thanks!
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3142 [18:55:35] <RoyK> jelly: I've tested lz4 on zfs with
video data writes - the overhead is negligible
3143 [18:55:58] <jelly> RoyK: is it worth anything for video, tho?
3144 [18:56:03] <somiaj> protectionfault: the debian 9 kernel
should have all teh ratpoline in it now to help the software side of
the protection. Microcode (though firmware update from your hardware
vendor) is also needed
3145 [18:56:13] <annadane> i believe if you're running the
latest (4.9.0-6) kernel in stretch the answer should be the same for
everyone; there's a spectre-meltdown-checker package to check
if you're affected, though
3146 [18:56:16] <RoyK> jelly: no, it was a test - I ran it for a
week or so to check
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3149 [18:56:40] <RoyK> protectionfault: don't think
hyperthreading is related there - better keep it enabled with a
modern cpu
3150 [18:56:46] <annadane> ,v spectre-meltdown-checker
3151 [18:56:46] <somiaj> annadane: afiak you need a
firmware/micrcode update to take advantage of all the new features
in the kernel, but this debian can't provdie.
3152 [18:56:47] <judd> Package: spectre-meltdown-checker on amd64
-- stretch-backports: 0.35-1~bpo9+1; buster: 0.35-1; sid: 0.35-1
3153 [18:56:49] <protectionfault> annadane: thanks, I did not know
about that package
3154 [18:56:51] <annadane> ah, backports
3155 [18:56:59] <protectionfault> gotcha
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3158 [18:57:26] <greycat> Debian does provide (in non-free)
microcode, but it may not be the bleeding-edgiest version yet, and
it won't cover firmware.
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3160 [18:57:39] <RoyK> protectionfault: ht was rather slow when it
first arrived, but with today's way faster memory, it's
fast
3161 [18:57:54] <ikarosuusi> AHHA! look! jelly and everyone! now
it is working!
3162 [18:57:57] <ikarosuusi>
replaced-url
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3164 [18:58:06] <ikarosuusi> i will start drawin in less than 10
minutes
3165 [18:58:23] <ikarosuusi> if someone is interested in nonsense
stream watching then I have the prime spot now
3166 [18:58:46] <annadane> okay though advertising is generally
frowned on
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3168 [18:58:50] <protectionfault> RoyK, greycat, thanks. Also,
greycat, what do you mean "won't cover firmware?"
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3170 [18:58:57] <ikarosuusi> no it's not advertising
it's sharing the joy
3171 [18:59:01] * annadane shrugs
3172 [18:59:09] <greycat> Firmware updates have to come from your
firmware's manufacturer.
3173 [18:59:09] <ikarosuusi> oh wait don't come to watch my
stream
3174 [18:59:12] <somiaj> greycat: yea, I don't htink the
microcode in stretch has been updated since meltdown, though major
hardawre vendors have only gotten a non buggy version out
recentally. -- ahh looks like they now provide marches update in
stretch-backports.
3175 [18:59:19] <ikarosuusi> nothing to witness there
3176 [18:59:29] <ikarosuusi> you can rest assured i got my debian
working
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3178 [18:59:39] <somiaj> I would usggest a full firmware upgrade
form your vendor, though stretch-backports does have new
intel-microcode if needed
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3180 [18:59:50] <ikarosuusi> I'm sorry I didn't know the
policy
3181 [19:00:08] <jelly> too late, now I'm watching someone
drawing doodles on screen
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3183 [19:00:14] <Guest42944> r u guys hurting ikarosuusi
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3186 [19:00:52] <jelly> Guest42944: keep comments in here to tech
support please
3187 [19:00:53] <protectionfault> So to recap what I got from all
of you: I am vulnerable without the backports version of the
microcode?
3188 [19:01:02] <jelly> lest you want a longer ban than yesterday
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3190 [19:01:23] <somiaj> protectionfault: You should get a
firmware update from your vendor.
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3192 [19:01:49] <jelly> protectionfault: ths thing is, you'll
be vulnerable for a long time untill all the software implements
workarounds for spectre like kernel did.
3193 [19:02:08] <somiaj> protectionfault: the newer microcode
could help, but the firmware update from your vendor will include
the microcode any any vendor specific fixes.
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3195 [19:02:17] <jelly> the microcode just enables some specific
workarounds to be possible at all
3196 [19:02:32] <greycat> Or until non-vulnerable CPUs actually
arrive.
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3198 [19:02:40] <jelly> that's... not likely
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3200 [19:03:17] <greycat>
replaced-url
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3203 [19:03:34] <ikarosuusi> thanks for the kind care Guest42944!
I'm being well fostered here and all my troubles are being
addressed!
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3213 [19:06:05] <protectionfault> greycat: rowhammer?! the more
you know. I came here for reassurance, not more anxiety. ;)
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3218 [19:07:54] <annadane> i wonder if i should have
intel-microcode installed, i haven't bothered with it and not
received any message on startup indicating any errors/outdated
microcode
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3220 [19:08:16] <greycat> If you have an intel CPU that isn't
super-old, yeah, you should probably install it.
3221 [19:08:17] <protectionfault> annadane: my current take on it
is that, yes, you should
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3231 [19:11:30] <jelly> annadane: Debian isn't big on
warnings about outdated software
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3234 [19:12:24] <annadane> i guess the stock answer is
"install it just to be safe"
3235 [19:12:30] <annadane> but... bleh
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3240 [19:13:10] <annadane> but it's not even debian, i get no
messages in the bios, i mean
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3242 [19:13:27] <somiaj> wonder why debian is providing the
micorcode via backports and not security, but I still suggest
getting the microcode/firmware from your hardware vendor if they
have it, seems many released a updated fix in march.
3243 [19:13:58] <somiaj> annadane: in my experience firmware
doen't check if it is out dated, you'll have to go check
yoru vendors site.
3244 [19:14:05] <protectionfault> somiaj, you mean my mainboard
manufacturer?
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3246 [19:14:13] <protectionfault> Like, a BIOS update?
3247 [19:14:25] <greycat> Yes, "BIOS" is one specific
subset of firmware.
3248 [19:14:25] <annadane> somiaj, sorry, which microcode?
intel-microcode is available via regular stable
3249 [19:14:26] <somiaj> protectionfault: wll firmware, most
don't use BIOS instead they use UEFI
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3251 [19:15:00] <annadane> also i _have_ gotten messages warning
about outdated stuff before
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3253 [19:15:04] <somiaj> annadane: the version from stretch is
from 2017 before meltdown, stretch-backports contains a marh 2018
version that contains the fixes, though yoru vendor's firmware
has these fixes too
3254 [19:15:17] <protectionfault> as an old fart I refuse to call
my BIOS "the UEFI", because it makes me feel violated to
think about the atrocity that is UEFI.
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3259 [19:15:42] <somiaj> protectionfault: for my machines, we have
dell desktop/servers and I have been just getting the updates from
del since they were released in march.
3260 [19:15:53] <somiaj> but if you build a machine, then yea,
your mobo manufacture.
3261 [19:15:55] <greycat> protectionfault: firmware is the general
term that covers both of them and more
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3267 [19:16:49] <somiaj> protectionfault: uefi is actaully quite
nice, espically with firmware updates these days. I think you should
look into it more (though maybe you are just thinking about the
secure-boot feature which I dont' use)
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3270 [19:17:10] <somiaj> also enjoy not needing grub anymore,
dualbooting with other uefi oses is easier and so on.
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3273 [19:17:26] <annadane> well, the other thing i can do is get
spectre-meltdown-checker from backports and then google the
vulnerabilities i have and apply whatever fixes are relevant to
debian
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3277 [19:17:40] <annadane> i don't want to install microcode
for the hell of it
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3279 [19:18:08] <protectionfault> if you distrust the microcode
itself, better bin the cpu :)
3280 [19:18:18] <annadane> i guess
3281 [19:18:25] <annadane> well, fine, i'll just install it
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3284 [19:19:29] <protectionfault> do some benchmarks, it might
speed up some things
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3290 [19:21:05] <protectionfault> From a casual googling session I
gathered that disabling hyperthreading mitigates spectre v2. Is that
correct?
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3293 [19:21:52] <protectionfault> obviously you incur a ~15%
performance hit for doing so, but I like to be sure it helps before
I do
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3296 [19:22:48] <protectionfault> There is a lot of "media
outrage" but very little customer information for people who
are not infosec scientists.. :(
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3301 [19:24:58] <somiaj> My understanding is you should upgrade
your firmware, upgrade your kernel (both are needed for some new
isolation features), and upgrade your browser so js timing
isn't sensitive to be exploited. I'm unsure if disabling
hyperthreading would add any additional protection while waiting for
other software that could be exploitd to be fixed.
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3309 [19:26:15] <somiaj> And the only thing debian dosen't
provide in security is your vendors firmware update, the microcode
in stretch-backports could help if you don't have (or your
vendor doesn't provide) a firmware update for tis.
3310 [19:26:31] <protectionfault> somiaj: I like the features, but
I think the fundamentals are flawed because it allows a field
programmable array to be remotely manipulated. I like to think that
requiring physical access is a nice defense against a significant
percentage of bad guys. Thanks!
3311 [19:26:55] <annadane> i'm too lazy to research whether
the vendor has updated it so i'll just install the microcode
from backports and assume everything is fixed and change my password
to password
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3313 [19:29:25] <protectionfault> I am running firefox-esr, but
it's unclear how safe that is.
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3315 [19:30:09] <protectionfault> annadane: don't upgrade
your BIOS/UEFI without proper planning
3316 [19:30:13] <somiaj> protectionfault: You can track all of
these issues via CVE's and change log entries, firefox-esr is
an extended release that gets suecritu support.
3317 [19:30:19] <greycat> The version of intel-microcode in jessie
is newer than the version in jessie-backports, but OLDER than in
jessie-backports-sloppy. So I presume the version in stretch will
eventually catch up to stretch-backports, perhaps after people are
more confident it doesn't blow up.
3318 [19:31:05] <somiaj> yea, I'm unsrue why it wasn't
given via security, maybe still some issues before they deem it
ready to be a security fix that won't cause trouble.
3319 [19:31:07] <annadane> sigh
3320 [19:31:21] <annadane> well, my computer didn't explode
so it's probably fine
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3322 [19:31:32] <somiaj> protectionfault: really depends a lot on
the hardware. Modern uefi hardware firmware updates are fairly
painless.
3323 [19:32:42] <somiaj> more and more machines can be updated by
just putting the update on a fat32 usb drive and doing it from
directly inside the firmware's tools.
3324 [19:32:51] <annadane> if i had paid more attention to this
channel months ago these exact same topics were being discussed and
i wouldn't be doing this now
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3327 [19:33:27] <somiaj> annadane: the original firmware updates
were quite buggy and recalled, it is only in march they rereleased
them, so you aren't that far behind, only a few weeks.
3328 [19:33:38] <annadane> though these are also more spectre
vulnerabilities and not so much meltdown, so harder to exploit
anyway i believe
3329 [19:33:49] <annadane> far behind in what, stable or stable
backports?
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3333 [19:34:21] <greycat> The version of intel-microcode (which is
NOT a firmware update) in stretch-backports is from March.
3334 [19:34:23] <somiaj> I mean in terms of timing to install the
microcode and/or firmware updaates
3335 [19:34:38] <annadane> i'm sure it's fine
3336 [19:34:40] <protectionfault> i have a nagging suspicion
we'll be learning about new spectre related problems for a long
time to come
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3338 [19:34:49] <annadane> maybe maybe not
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3342 [19:35:37] <Bookin> Anyone here know the default height in
pixels of the KDE or Gnome topbar/panel?
3343 [19:36:21] <somiaj> take a screen shot and measure? Use
something like xprop on the window
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3345 [19:36:42] <greycat> Do whatever you are trying to do using a
guess, and if it doesn't fit, revise your guess.
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3347 [19:37:03] <protectionfault> IIRC it's 48px
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3349 [19:37:16] <greycat> Probably faster, easier, and more
accurate than finding someone who uses KDE or GNOME and actually
knows such a thing.
3350 [19:37:29] <Bookin> Yeah
3351 [19:37:33] <Bookin> Don't have either installed
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3353 [19:37:41] <Bookin> Just looking to copy the screen size
fingerprint
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3355 [19:38:17] <Bookin> I'll try 48
3356 [19:38:30] <annadane> the problem for the casual end-user is
that microcode is always this nebulous thing that not even that many
people even know about and then suddenly there's these new
vulnerabilities which are addressed by microcode and it takes the
culture a while to catch up
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3358 [19:38:49] <annadane> and then as was mentioned the original
microcode was even recalled
3359 [19:39:01] <annadane> absolute security is a myth anyway
3360 [19:39:04] <greycat> Before spectre/meltdown, microcode was
basically there to fix bugs in the CPU, rather than exploits in the
CPU.
3361 [19:39:32] <protectionfault> microcode should always be
installed, even on windows it's better to check if your
manufacturer provides a more recent/secure version of the intel
chipset driver
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3363 [19:40:17] <greycat> intel-microcode has nothing to do with
intel GPU
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3365 [19:40:30] <annadane> yeah even for cpu bugs it's a good
idea to have
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3367 [19:40:53] <protectionfault> my cpu is my GPU
3368 [19:41:05] <protectionfault> skylake..
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3371 [19:41:50] <protectionfault> ok, excellent stuff. thanks for
your time everyone, have a great day.
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3375 [19:43:17] <annadane> my specific issue was that in sid i did
get warnings of outdated microcode, in stable this didn't
happen, and i only just today remembered from discussions here a few
months ago that some of the vulnerabilities were addressed by a
microcode update, which i only learned today is the one from
backports and not stable and only missed it by a few weeks anyway
for a problem which isn't even likely to affect everybody
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3377 [19:43:43] <annadane> but then per the discussions months ago
that original microcode was recalled regardless
3378 [19:44:03] <annadane> so okay, lesson learned, i should have
it installed anyway
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3383 [19:45:12] <protectionfault> these decisions don't have
a right answer, it is more about proper reasoning being applied to
the specific situation, with very little information
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3386 [19:45:51] <annadane> most security patches are not this
convuluted
3387 [19:45:55] <annadane> convoluted*
3388 [19:46:12] <protectionfault> let's hope it stays that
way :)
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3390 [19:47:14] <annadane>
replaced-url
3391 [19:47:17] * annadane shrugs
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3393 [19:47:41] <annadane> (how sensationalized that is, i
don't know)
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3397 [19:49:42] <protectionfault> It's the 4/4/2018 article
from ElReg that got me here in the first place. Honestly I think
they are doing a stellar job in reporting on this, and sadly that
means there is nothing being sensationalized too much. It's a
breath of fresh air to have ElReg around, I find.
3398 [19:50:53] <annadane> i refuse to mess with core/libreboot
(and i'm not sure it fixes the issues anyway) because i'm
afraid of bricking
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3400 [19:51:58] <annadane> *meltdown* was addressed via kernel
upgrade, anyhow. that's the low hanging fruit
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3404 [19:54:34] <waydot> how do you install microcode updates in
debian?
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3406 [19:54:53] <greycat> install intel-microcode which is in
non-free
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3408 [19:55:19] <greycat> optionally, install the version of
intel-microcode from stretch-backports, but this may or may not be
safe, who knows, nobody knows
3409 [19:55:35] <waydot> tnx
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3411 [19:56:19] <annadane> it's a trade-off: be
"protected" against spectre but take risks with unvetted
(closed source, naturally) software or let your imagination run wild
with the potential horrors that can creep in while you wait for the
microcode to be in stable
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3413 [19:56:27] <tw> More and more of those bios images are
boot-time signature enforced now. I'd be surprised if
libreboot, et.al. stay relevant long term.
3414 [19:56:50] <waydot> annadane: you think that non-updated cpu
is any less closed source?
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3416 [19:57:18] <annadane> well, the fact it's closed
isn't really relevant, that's not my main point
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3420 [19:58:08] <magyar> hi, I'm unable to get sound working
in torbrowser, I have pulse installed and firefox sound is
workingfine
3421 [19:58:11] <magyar> working fine
3422 [19:58:12] <annadane> it's still closed in stable but by
the time it's in stable it'll be more tested
3423 [19:58:48] <waydot> oh you meant non-stable
3424 [19:58:53] <waydot> i misuderstood
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3426 [19:59:32] <annadane> stable vs stable backports
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3428 [20:00:10] <annadane> as i said spectre is fundamentally more
difficult to exploit in theory but i'm honestly not sure at
this point if anyone understands what the fuck is going on with the
situation
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3430 [20:00:41] <annadane> still better than running an unpatched
machine for 3 years which some large corporations probably do
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3432 [20:00:56] <waydot> it's not really on the same level as
string theory
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3437 [20:01:45] <waydot> i _still_ didnt read the paper :P but as
i understand it allows you to read arbitrary memory blocks of the
same process/context
3438 [20:02:10] <annadane> at the very least have the latest
stable kernel to protect against meltdown
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3440 [20:02:25] <waydot> which is really terrible given that most
data access restrictions are implemented in userspace today
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3442 [20:02:39] <waydot> because of fear of running anything as
root ...
3443 [20:03:20] <waydot> well, sometimes you don't need those
patches ;) [Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D510]
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3448 [20:06:44] <annadane> desktop users probably don't have
to worry too much comparatively speaking because i can well imagine
a situation where a production server will not install microcode
from backports because they don't want to fry their mission
critical systems, thus in theory they (probably having a lot more
valuable secrets/assets) will be the ones more vulnerable, it's
all relative
3449 [20:07:09] <annadane> and some people just don't care
and don't patch things for 3 years
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3457 [20:11:18] <johnfg> hi folks
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3459 [20:11:50] <johnfg> I'm still not getting my php
configured correctly on the machine (main server) I upgraded from
jessie->stretch.
3460 [20:13:03] <protectionfault> you had a working config before
the distupgrade?
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3464 [20:14:17] <annadane> i'm not worried overmuch about a
stretch-backport breakage considering the relative robustness of
sid; debian is just really solid in general
3465 [20:14:18] <jhutchins_wk> annadane: Any serious environment
will have test servers they can try the update on.
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3467 [20:14:41] <jhutchins_wk> s/can/WILL/
3468 [20:14:43] <annadane> probably, but some security even at
professional level can be quite bad
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3470 [20:15:11] <johnfg> I looked at and tried some of the
suggestions, like editing php.ini and changing short_open_tag = On,
but didn't make any difference.
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3472 [20:15:27] <johnfg> protectionfault: absolutely. All of it
worked great on jessie.
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3477 [20:16:21] <protectionfault> we're slowly evolving from
a PR-damage-control culture to responsible disclosure. I think that
shift towards openness has brought a lot of misery to the
foreground, while in fact the information being out there and worked
on by the community is progress, although it's anxiety inducing
stuff.
3478 [20:16:37] <johnfg> Even when I open index.php, the standard
file to see if things are working, all I get is a blank page. No
errors are being written to apache/error.log.
3479 [20:17:05] <protectionfault> is the source of that page blank
too?
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3481 [20:17:22] <johnfg> protectionfault: the index.php? No.
3482 [20:17:48] <protectionfault> does the server see the request?
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3485 [20:18:25] <annadane> to me anything in backports is
basically fully sanctioned even though they put up disclaimers
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3487 [20:18:30] <johnfg> I believe so, how would I verify that? Is
that in the access log?
3488 [20:19:07] <protectionfault> you should look on stackexchange
for your phpd + logging
3489 [20:19:40] <protectionfault> i'm just helping you out
blind here, I have no php specific skills
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3493 [20:20:12] <protectionfault> logging is your friend, better
get to know the places to find them
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3495 [20:21:08] <johnfg> protectionfault: Ok, and yes, in
access.log it shows that the page is seen.
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3497 [20:21:39] <xp> what program can I use to see disk
fragmentation?
3498 [20:22:18] <protectionfault> xp: you probably don't need
to worry about fragmentation anymore
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3501 [20:22:36] <greycat> DEFRAG was the best MS-DOS screen saver
3502 [20:22:41] <annadane> generally the answer is fsck (do not
fsck on mounted volumes)
3503 [20:22:53] <protectionfault> I loved just looking at defrag.
3504 [20:23:03] <annadane> it was pretty. and took 7 hours.
3505 [20:23:32] <xp> protectionfault: why needn't I worry
about fragmentation?
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3507 [20:24:00] <protectionfault> xp: because most likely your
drive is doing it on the fly continuously
3508 [20:24:15] <protectionfault> SSDs don't need it
3509 [20:24:18] <annadane> it also runs a check on startup
3510 [20:24:22] <xp> protectionfault: where can I read about that?
3511 [20:25:27] <annadane> /dev/sda1: clean or somesuch
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3513 [20:25:42] <xp> annadane: isn't the check at startup
checking only for corruption?
3514 [20:25:50] <annadane> that may be right
3515 [20:25:53] <hyperlumic> SSDs don't really
'defrag.' Fragmentation is only something that happens
with traditional disks.
3516 [20:26:06] <xp> hyperlumic: I'm using HDD
3517 [20:26:10] <protectionfault> xp: don't know where to
read it. SSDs are purposely scrambled to distribute the load across
the NANDs, because of their limited number of writes.
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3520 [20:26:26] <annadane> anyway not everyone has an SSD
3521 [20:26:45] <xp> annadane: RAM cache FTW
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3527 [20:27:00] <hyperlumic> That's point #1. Point #2 is
that modern Linux filesystems utilize predictive allocation to
minimize fragmentation anyway. Fragmentation only really occurs when
a disk gets mostly full.
3528 [20:27:05] <protectionfault> point is that for larger
spinning platter driver, the cluster size would be larger, which
defeats most of the other purpose of defragmentation
3529 [20:27:51] <protectionfault> xp: it's one worry less! :)
3530 [20:28:00] <xp> protectionfault: that would just minimize the
effects of fragmentation
3531 [20:28:23] <annadane> if you're just coming from windows
and "want to check for fragmentation" you probably
don't have to
3532 [20:28:30] <annadane> if you have a specific reason,
however...
3533 [20:29:03] <protectionfault> true, I'm not answering his
question, I vaguely remember a cli command that showed a percentage
3534 [20:29:04] <hyperlumic> If you're experiencing issues
with fragmentation using a modern Linux filesystem, the problem
isn't fragmentation, the problem is that you've nearly
filled the disk and need more storage.
3535 [20:29:19] <xp> annadane: I've used linux for a while,
and now I'm wondering about the state of my /usr partition
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3537 [20:29:33] <hyperlumic> What protectionfault said earlier is
correct. Filesystems like ext4 move stuff around transparently to
avoid/reduce fragmentation where it exists.
3538 [20:29:39] <hyperlumic> xp: Are you having an issue with the
system?
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3543 [20:30:17] <protectionfault> We might just need a 7-hour
animation of defragmentation to calm our own minds.
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3545 [20:30:26] <xp> hyperlumic: disk usage, maybe?
3546 [20:30:36] <annadane> i'm sure there are youtube videos
3547 [20:30:51] <hyperlumic> xp: "Maybe?" Are you having
problems with the system?
3548 [20:31:01] <hyperlumic>
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3550 [20:31:17] <greycat> google has actual results for
"screen saver that looks like defrag" but the first one I
checked was only for Windows
3551 [20:31:26] <hyperlumic> 8 hours of defrag.
3552 [20:31:26] * annadane wouldn't be surprised if windows 10 made
the defragmenter worse
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3554 [20:31:40] <hyperlumic> Including server hum and hard drive
noise.
3555 [20:31:50] <protectionfault> xp: if your block device is
unmounted you should try e2fsck -fn <devicefile>
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3559 [20:33:09] <johnfg> php -i outputs much data, but at the
start, it's definitely showing php7. How can I get php5 to be
used instead?
3560 [20:33:10] <protectionfault> apologies, I'm not sure if
I recommend the e2tools
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3563 [20:33:29] <hyperlumic> johnfg: Is php5 -truly- needed?
3564 [20:33:48] <annadane> ,v php5
3565 [20:33:49] <judd> Package: php5 on amd64 -- wheezy:
5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u13; jessie:
5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.6.33+dfsg-0+deb8u1;
jessie-security: 5.6.33+dfsg-0+deb8u1
3566 [20:33:51] <greycat> johnfg: running "php -i" from
a command line is NOT the same as what your web server/etc. is going
to do
3567 [20:34:06] <gabboman> Hi, I just installed mysql, and I have
some problems with phpmyadmin. I'm trying to create a "new
root" user, but its imposible to create databaseas and grant
permissions to new users.
3568 [20:34:09] <johnfg> hyperlumic: Most of my website pages, but
also, wordpress (latest for stretch) won't run.
3569 [20:34:10] <hyperlumic> annadane: That's why I asked. ;)
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3571 [20:34:46] <hyperlumic> johnfg: That sounds highly suspect. I
can most definitely run Wordpress on Stretch.
3572 [20:35:21] <johnfg> hyperlumic: I also on a different
machine, but that machine had a fresh install of stretch; not an
upgrade from jessie.
3573 [20:35:41] * annadane can never remember the default versions of
packages in debian releases
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3576 [20:36:33] <hyperlumic> annadane: I'm weird. I can ID
distros by kernel version.
3577 [20:36:37] <annadane> i guess a good rule of thumb is x and x
- 1 are supported
3578 [20:36:58] <annadane> ,v php6
3579 [20:36:59] <judd> No package named 'php6' was found
in amd64.
3580 [20:37:02] <protectionfault> xp: checking with you here, fsck
kicks off e2fsck here, so that's fine. The command you're
asking for would be: e2fsck -fn <devicefile>
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3582 [20:37:04] <annadane> wha?
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3584 [20:37:07] <annadane> well, whatever
3585 [20:37:11] <hyperlumic> annadane: There was no php6.
3586 [20:37:16] <annadane> that'll do it
3587 [20:37:26] <protectionfault> xp: but it needs to be unmounted
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3589 [20:37:48] <gabboman> there was a php6 but was incompatible
with php5 and was awful
3590 [20:37:52] <annadane> s/packages/programming languages
3591 [20:37:55] <hyperlumic> goberle: Oh, today I learned.
3592 [20:38:00] <hyperlumic> goberle: Misfire, sorry.
3593 [20:38:03] <hyperlumic> gabboman: You.
3594 [20:38:15] <annadane> i know python is 3.5, php is 7.1, perl
is 5.24, beyond that i have to look it up
3595 [20:38:19] <gabboman> me!
3596 [20:38:20] <protectionfault> then, in the output you'll
see something like "44% non-contiguous" which is the
fragmentation state. (@xp)
3597 [20:40:01] <hyperlumic> protectionfault: He left.
3598 [20:40:49] <SpeakerToMeat> greycat: It's not strange for
all aspects of AAA to be thrown togetehr
3599 [20:41:13] <protectionfault> hyperlumic: another angry
customer
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3601 [20:41:27] <annadane> apt install windows-defragmentor
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3603 [20:41:41] <hyperlumic> protectionfault: Such is the fate of
all those who chase numbers without stopping to understand their
(in)significance.
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3607 [20:43:11] <qifan> hi
3608 [20:43:25] <qifan> what might be the problem is mesa or
amdgpu driver issue ? :
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3610 [20:44:05] <protectionfault> as a reasonably obsessive geek I
remember a zen feeling of having a non-defragmented disk. We should
have helped him get that back.
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3612 [20:44:21] <protectionfault> non-defragmented? no.
defragmented.
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3617 [20:45:30] <jocthbr> Hey guys
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3620 [20:45:51] <protectionfault> qifan: can you do glxinfo but
grep for error instead?
3621 [20:45:56] <jocthbr> I'm trying to run mariadb on Debian
9, but the service is not going up
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3625 [20:46:11] <qifan> sure
3626 [20:46:21] <annadane> jocthbr, provide more information? what
basis are you saying the service isn't going up?
3627 [20:46:23] <jocthbr> It gives me this error
3628 [20:46:24] <jocthbr> Process: 51734
ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/install -m 755 -o mysql -g root -d
/var/run/mysqld (code=exited, status=226/NAMESPACE)
3629 [20:46:47] <protectionfault> jocthbr: it is not an error?
3630 [20:46:57] <jocthbr> Yeah, it is
3631 [20:47:13] <qifan> only this 2 lines : libGL error: No
matching fbConfigs or visuals found
3632 [20:47:13] <qifan> libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
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3636 [20:47:52] <jocthbr> This is the result of "systemctl
status mariadb.service
3637 [20:47:55] <qifan> i think its missing mesa am i right ?
3638 [20:47:56] <protectionfault> qifan: try searching the webs
for that swrast thing
3639 [20:48:06] <qifan> kkkk
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3644 [20:49:10] <jocthbr> If I run mysqld directly, the deamon
goes up
3645 [20:49:25] <jocthbr> *daemon
3646 [20:49:35] <hyperlumic> jocthbr: How did you install MariaDB?
3647 [20:49:43] <jocthbr> apt install..
3648 [20:49:53] <hyperlumic> jocthbr: Just making sure you
didn't use a binary package or something.
3649 [20:49:54] <greycat> did you check "systemctl status
mariadb" yet?
3650 [20:50:05] <NetTerminalGene> anyone experiencing high
gnome-shell cpu usage when watching youtube videos after the recent
updates?
3651 [20:50:35] <jocthbr> greycat: same thing
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3653 [20:50:38] <jocthbr> ● mariadb.service - MariaDB database
server
3654 [20:50:38] <jocthbr> Loaded: loaded
(/lib/systemd/system/mariadb.service; enabled; vendor preset:
enabled)
3655 [20:50:38] <jocthbr> Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since
Thu 2018-04-05 18:47:43 UTC; 2min 28s ago
3656 [20:50:38] <jocthbr> Process: 58979
ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/install -m 755 -o mysql -g root -d
/var/run/mysqld (code=exited, status=226/NAMESPACE)
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3658 [20:50:40] <NetTerminalGene> also high cpu usage when
watching videos with mpv
3659 [20:50:53] <annadane> update to gnome-shell? tracker
doesn't show any updates to gnome-shell in debian stable
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3663 [20:51:00] <protectionfault> whoops
3664 [20:51:03] <johnfg> Any other ideas about php pages either
not displaying or displaying incorrectly, including phpmyadmin?
Again, in case you weren't here, this is after upgrading this
server from jessie->stretch.
3665 [20:51:03] <jocthbr> Argh, sorry
3666 [20:51:13] <johnfg> All worked fine prior to the upgrade.
3667 [20:51:18] <jocthbr> I didn't want to paste all the text
3668 [20:51:20] <annadane> jocthbr, for future reference
paste.debian.net for longer pastes than 2 lines or so
3669 [20:51:22] <NetTerminalGene> annadane, not gnome-shell
update. something else
3670 [20:51:30] <greycat> jocthbr: Output was truncated by
flood-bot. Run it as root and examine the logs that it gives you for
clues.
3671 [20:51:34] <jocthbr> annadane: Yeah, I know...
3672 [20:51:59] <jocthbr>
replaced-url
3673 [20:52:04] <jocthbr> There it is
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3678 [20:52:33] <JordiGH> Is there a liveusb thing I can
boot+install from?
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3680 [20:52:53] <annadane> NetTerminalGene, well you can look in
your apt history (/var/log/apt/history.log) to see what else got
updated
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3682 [20:54:03] <greycat> jocthbr: there's no logs shown, so
I am guessing you didn't run it as root.
3683 [20:54:18] <jocthbr> Well..
3684 [20:54:20] <protectionfault> jocthbr: from an arch forum I
find this advice: Remember, that you can inspect unit journals with
journalctl more closely.
3685 [20:54:22] <jocthbr> I'll try to reinstall it
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3687 [20:54:57] <jocthbr> Also, I think it's important to say
I'm running it from a LX Container
3688 [20:55:05] <jocthbr> Joyent kind
3689 [20:55:07] <greycat> And sure, if the logs from systemctl are
not sufficient, journalctl is more complete and is the next step.
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3693 [20:56:20] <jocthbr> mariadb.service: Failed to set
invocation ID on control group /system.slice/mariadb.service,
ignoring: Operation not supported
3694 [20:56:23] <jocthbr> Weird
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3700 [20:57:52] <annadane>
replaced-url
3701 [20:58:11] <johnfg> greycat: To your earlier remark: I know
php -i from the cli isn't the same, but if I have a file with
<?php phpinfo(); ?>, index.php, and on my other stretch
machine it outputs all the info that is expected.
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3704 [20:58:33] <greycat> johnfg: so you have to figure out which
php your web server is using
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3706 [20:58:59] <johnfg> greycat: i.e., it doesn't show
anything on the upgraded machine, but shows all on the other.
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3708 [20:59:27] <johnfg> greycat: my apache2.conf is the same on
both machines.
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3713 [21:01:01] <xar-> which php version were you on, and what are
you on now?
3714 [21:01:04] <jocthbr> annadane: applied the nonewprivileges
conf, but no news...
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3719 [21:01:47] <johnfg> xar-: I was on php5 on jessie, and now,
on both stretch machines it's php7.
3720 [21:02:03] <johnfg> xar-: the latest, all updates to both
machines applied.
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3726 [21:03:05] <xar-> I hope it's not a production
workload...
3727 [21:03:10] <protectionfault> should these two stretch
machines be mostly identical?
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3730 [21:04:07] <qifan> what is the name of radeon rx 580, for 3D
accel on apt-get ?!?
3731 [21:04:32] <greycat> qifan: start by identifying the graphics
chipset: lspci -nn | grep -i vga
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3736 [21:04:55] <johnfg> xar-: That *may* be the plan, eventually,
then the older (upgraded) server, retired.
3737 [21:04:56] <greycat> qifan: *most* likely you just need to
install the non-free amd firmware pacakge
3738 [21:05:11] <qifan> moment
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3743 [21:05:22] <greycat> judd v firmware-amd-graphics
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3745 [21:05:23] <judd> Package: firmware-amd-graphics on amd64 --
jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free:
20161130-3; stretch-backports/non-free: 20170823-1~bpo9+1;
buster/non-free: 20170823-1; sid/non-free: 20170823-1
3746 [21:05:27] <johnfg> protectionfault: Why did you ask, if that
was for me?
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3749 [21:06:25] <xar-> suffice it to say johnfg, there are key
differences in the two versions
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3752 [21:06:50] <xar-> the php maintainers are very good about
posting migration documentation, have you referenced that?
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3756 [21:08:13] <johnfg> xar-: Yeah, but not as closely yet as I
will. jhutchins was kind enough to recommend it yesterday. I guess
it's not just a simple migration that the upgrade from
jessie->stretch takes care of, eh?
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3758 [21:08:58] <johnfg> Sorry guys, I gotta run to the 2nd job.
40 minutes early because of snow and bad weather here in Montana.
Happy Spring!
3759 [21:09:01] <xar-> johnfg:
replaced-url
3760 [21:09:07] <xar-> I think you were bitten by that
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3762 [21:09:30] <xar-> also
replaced-url
3763 [21:09:36] <johnfg> xar-: I opened it, and will look later.
Thanks to everyone that's trying to help and solve this
problem.
3764 [21:09:48] <protectionfault> johnfg: I was taking a shot,
travel safe.
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3766 [21:10:05] <xar-> johnfg: if I had to go out on a limb,
you've got short tags in your application; you need to go into
your .ini and enable the option, and more importantly, upgrade your
code
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3769 [21:10:25] <xar-> johnfg: also this,
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3770 [21:10:50] <greycat> 14:58 johnfg> [...] I have a file
with <?php phpinfo(); ?>
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3774 [21:12:16] <xar-> johnfg: egrep -i -A5 short_open_tag
/path/to/php.ini
3775 [21:12:35] <xar-> that's probably what you want
3776 [21:12:40] <johnfg> xar-: Don't need to egrep: I set it
to On last night.
3777 [21:12:42] <greycat> is <?php a "short open
tag"?
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3780 [21:13:22] <johnfg> greycat: That's proper. It can be on
one line, as I typed for irssi, but in my index.php, it's on 3
lines.
3781 [21:13:51] <greycat> seems like xar- is focused on something
that doesn't actually affect you
3782 [21:13:56] <xar-> outside of that, need way more
instrumentation to understand the nature of the problem, very few
actual details
3783 [21:14:16] <greycat> well, that part is true
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3788 [21:15:52] <xar-> yea I mean other than some version numbers,
I'm shooting in the dark ha
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3793 [21:16:54] <xar-> speaking of packages, is there an IUS
equivalent for Debian?
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3797 [21:18:26] <xar-> php7.(0) is a bit long in the tooth at this
point
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3799 [21:19:14] <nkuttler> what's ius?
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3803 [21:20:46] <xar->
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3804 [21:21:04] <nkuttler> !tell xar- about backports
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3807 [21:21:38] <xar-> just curious if there's a rough
approximation; cuz in johnfg's case, he's going through
the pain of migrating to php7.(0); why not just go for broken and do
7.2.x
3808 [21:21:38] <annadane> i suspect most package managers can be
installed not necessarily system-wide like .deb's
3809 [21:21:43] <annadane> not tried it though
3810 [21:21:49] <xar-> s/broken/broke
3811 [21:22:27] <nkuttler> ,v php7.2
3812 [21:22:29] <judd> Package: php7.2 on amd64 -- buster:
7.2.3-1; sid: 7.2.3-1; sid: 7.2.4-1
3813 [21:22:39] <nkuttler> ,v php7.1
3814 [21:22:40] <judd> Package: php7.1 on amd64 -- sid: 7.1.0-5;
buster: 7.1.15-1; sid: 7.1.15-1; sid: 7.1.16-1
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3816 [21:23:05] <greycat> I still don't understand how sid
has 3 different versions of the same package in judd's output.
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3820 [21:23:56] <xar-> that bot's link is underwhelming
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3824 [21:24:36] <nkuttler> xar-: that's what you get with
debian. we value stability
3825 [21:24:37] <greycat> xar-: "go for broken" was
probably correct. This *is* PHP we're talking about.
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3829 [21:25:10] <xar-> I think I found what I need on page 65...
lol
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3833 [21:26:21] <Tenkawa> uggh some days I really hate microsd
cards
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3836 [21:26:36] <rpifan> whats worng
3837 [21:26:50] <Tenkawa> got a few aging on me
3838 [21:27:06] <xar-> greycat: I'm the last guy to start a
war, but I'd argue things in PHP land have significantly
improved in the last several years; both in terms of performance (on
par or better than HHVM) and just over-all maturity of the language
and the ecosystem (composer and similar ilk)
3839 [21:27:29] <Tenkawa> I put them through a ton of write cycles
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3841 [21:28:42] <annadane> i'm amazed my pc hasn't grown
a hand and slapped me across the face for all the abuse i've
put it through
3842 [21:29:00] <Tenkawa> annadane: heheheh mine have tried
3843 [21:29:06] <Tenkawa> they try to trip me
3844 [21:29:14] <Tenkawa> cables fly out and try to grab me
3845 [21:29:15] <Tenkawa> etc
3846 [21:29:17] <Tenkawa> heheheh
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3848 [21:29:37] <annadane> i will treat my next one better.
i'm sorry. :(
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3850 [21:30:19] <Tenkawa> mine is mostly because I'm just
that clumsy
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3852 [21:31:13] <xar-> I'd probably also argue that
there's been this indirect democratizing effect as well; for
many programmers PHP was an early gateway into other forms of web
development; and the platforms and frameworks built on that
foundation power a lot of the web (Wordpress, etc.); I don't
have a horse in the race, I don't use PHP a great deal.
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3867 [21:45:59] <JordiGH> Uh, is `dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb`
the right way to put the iso into a usb stick?
3868 [21:46:01] <JordiGH> I sure hope so.
3869 [21:46:22] <tw> cp debian.iso /dev/sdb would do it.
3870 [21:46:32] <tw> (assuming gnu coreutils)
3871 [21:46:32] <greycat> only if /dev/sdb is your USB stick and
only if debian.iso is a Debian netinst or similar image
3872 [21:46:43] <JordiGH> Oh, I could have just done cp, huh.
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3880 [21:51:04] <annadane> read the installation manual &
release notes
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3885 [21:53:04] <JordiGH> annadane: tl;dr easier to ask here,
already read it too many times in my 15 years of using debian,
getting too old for this shit. :P
3886 [21:53:16] <annadane> that's fair. :D
3887 [21:53:41] <annadane> dd is also a bit of a nuclear bomb,
avoid if possible
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3889 [21:54:09] <annadane> or if not avoid triple check your if/of
names
3890 [21:54:11] <JordiGH> Hm, this stupid x1 doesn't seem to
want to boot from the usb, what's the problem, buddy?
3891 [21:54:19] <JordiGH> I can totally see Debian files in there.
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3893 [21:54:31] <annadane> maybe change the order of boot devices
in the bios
3894 [21:54:45] <JordiGH> Yeah, did that.
3895 [21:54:45] <annadane> or select it manually from the list by
mashing F12 on startup
3896 [21:54:57] <annadane> or whatever the f12 equiv is on your pc
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3898 [21:55:08] <qifan> any debian channel support, app store
GNU/DEBIAN ?
3899 [21:55:10] <JordiGH> Yeah, f12, I wonder if dd instead of cp
messed something up.
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3901 [21:55:13] <qifan> from windows
3902 [21:55:29] <annadane> probably have to ask microsoft
3903 [21:55:33] <qifan> all right
3904 [21:55:42] <qifan> they must know stuff about debian for sure
3905 [21:55:46] <qifan> thank you
3906 [21:55:51] <annadane> they don't even know windows,
so...
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3909 [21:56:13] <qifan> ROFL
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3911 [21:56:54] <qifan> keep away from voodoo
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3916 [21:57:46] <JordiGH> jordi@chloe:/media/jordi/d-live nf 9.4.0
ma amd64$ la
3917 [21:57:46] <JordiGH> boot d-i .disk dists firmware isolinux
live pool
3918 [21:57:54] <JordiGH> Does that look about right for a
bootable usb?
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3922 [21:58:22] <annadane> does "sync" work with dd,
maybe that has to be done as well
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3924 [21:58:28] <qifan> shame on amd :P full of work atm doing the
gnu/linux work flawless :) no time yet for dual grafics cards am i
right people ?
3925 [21:58:36] <JordiGH> annadane: oh shit
3926 [21:58:41] <JordiGH> Maybe I ripped out the usb before it was
done.
3927 [21:58:48] <qifan> LOLLLLLLLLL
3928 [21:59:05] <JordiGH> I just waited for dd to tell me how many
bytes it copied over.
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3930 [21:59:33] <annadane> there's a way of checking already
copied images with checksums but i forget how
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3937 [22:00:07] <Tenkawa> annadane: I think theres files kept in
/boot
3938 [22:00:15] <Tenkawa> they may or may not be up to date though
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3942 [22:00:31] <Tenkawa> oh wait.. I'm thinking of rpi
3943 [22:00:33] <Tenkawa> nm
3944 [22:00:33] <annadane> i guess i'd maybe just redo it
with cp
3945 [22:00:43] <JordiGH> Hm, yeah, other laptop just booted it
from just fine.
3946 [22:00:47] <JordiGH> Why you giving me a hard time, x1.
3947 [22:00:56] <JordiGH> Is it because you're securely
booting into not Debian?
3948 [22:01:07] <annadane> turn off secureboot? *shrug*
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3950 [22:01:14] <annadane> i have no idea, sorry
3951 [22:01:18] <JordiGH> Yeah, let's see..
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3953 [22:01:30] <unkmar> I have a 3 screen setup. Everything WAS
fine. I attempted to run a vlc instance in Fullscreen mode. Now my
middle monitor does not display the mouse cursor.
3954 [22:01:36] <unkmar> I'd rather not "IT Crowd"
Turn it off and on again. I have an environment I would like to
keep.
3955 [22:01:43] <Tenkawa> JordiGH: whats up? I missed the details
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3957 [22:02:14] <unkmar> Ideas how I can restore the mouse
pointer?
3958 [22:02:36] <JordiGH> Tenkawa: Can't get an x1 stinkpad
to boot from a debian usb, booted an old Dell Inspiron 1420 from it
just fine, trying to figure out what kind of BIOS fiddling I need to
do now.
3959 [22:03:01] <Tenkawa> whats its real name please
3960 [22:03:11] <Tenkawa> i dont know what a x1 stinkpad is
3961 [22:03:19] <JordiGH> x1 gen5 thinkpad
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3963 [22:03:48] <Tenkawa> OH
3964 [22:04:00] <Tenkawa> well..
3965 [22:04:05] <unkmar> Nevermind. I got it. Switching to VT
because Terminals were not responsive appears to kick the X-servers
into behaving.
3966 [22:04:07] <Tenkawa> thinkpads are ibm
3967 [22:04:16] <JordiGH> They haven't been for a long time.
3968 [22:04:26] <Tenkawa> thats likely going to have efi
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3971 [22:04:42] <annadane> yeah, refreshes the display
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3974 [22:04:48] <annadane> that sounds like a good general
solution
3975 [22:04:59] <JordiGH> So anyway, let's disable secure
boot.
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3977 [22:05:26] <Tenkawa> JordiGH: that is a good place to start
"and" do you by chance have a usb cdrom drive?
3978 [22:05:33] <JordiGH> There we go, disabled, and booted.
3979 [22:05:33] <Tenkawa> yould hook up?
3980 [22:05:38] <JordiGH> Woo, so insecure!
3981 [22:05:44] <Tenkawa> no
3982 [22:05:57] <Tenkawa> secure boot is just ......
3983 [22:06:08] <JordiGH> Keeping me safe from the dangers of
linux
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3985 [22:06:38] <annadane> i'm not sure i've ever seen
sync used in conjunction with dd so that's maybe not applicable
3986 [22:06:42] <annadane> it's recommended for cp though
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3988 [22:07:27] <annadane> i think with dd when you simply unmount
the stick or whatever that it writes properly
3989 [22:07:35] <annadane> if you however just rip out the
stick...
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3993 [22:11:15] <somiaj> I think sync is about the ext2 filesystem
cache, so that is why it wouldn't be needed for dd, you
aren't writing to the filesystem.
3994 [22:11:19] <somiaj> well ext?
3995 [22:11:37] <annadane> maybe... anyway, brb
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4003 [22:18:12] <JordiGH> oh boy, what's the debian live
user's password?
4004 [22:18:34] <protectionfault> enter?
4005 [22:18:48] <JordiGH> That's what I thought, but no!
4006 [22:18:54] <qifan> 3 speaces
4007 [22:18:56] <qifan> spaces
4008 [22:18:58] <qifan>
4009 [22:19:09] <qifan> worked ?
4010 [22:19:28] <JordiGH> "live"
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4012 [22:19:33] <JordiGH>
replaced-url
4013 [22:19:35] <JordiGH> Thanks, internet!
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4016 [22:20:28] <brontosaurusrex> Any go programming channel?
go-nuts doesnt seem to respond.
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4021 [22:22:07] <somiaj> JordiGH: you shouldn' tneed one and
sudo should be setup for nopass privlages to create any passwords
you need.
4022 [22:22:21] <somiaj> JordiGH: I have seen debian/debian in the
past, but unsure, this has changed a few times.
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4025 [22:22:32] <somiaj> oh live...I'm slow
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4080 [22:39:59] <elenalesb> hola
4081 [22:40:05] <elenalesb> hay alguien?
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4087 [22:41:29] <hyperlumic> elenalesb: ¿Necesitas ayuda en
español?
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4089 [22:42:05] <hyperlumic> I tried.
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4093 [22:45:02] <annadane> people who leave within a minute of
asking are the absolute worst
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4096 [22:46:57] <nobody> hi :)
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4113 [22:55:33] <darkhanb> I know that "build-essential"
is the apt-get package to install compiler, make and other tools
4114 [22:55:42] <darkhanb> what's the apt-get package to
install autotools like: autoreconf, libtool, etc..?
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4129 [23:05:26] <dkz> hi guys
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4132 [23:06:44] <dkz> I'm suddenly getting this error on my
server: Failed to start iptables.service: Unit iptables.service
failed to load: No such file or directory. I always had iptables
installed on my server. Any idea to fix this issue? There was
something changed about iptables? Thanks!
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4136 [23:09:46] <TechNet> hi
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4139 [23:10:16] <annadane> dkz, did this start happening after an
upgrade?
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4144 [23:13:01] <dkz> annadane: I didn't upgrade manually the
server, but that's true I run unattended-upgrades. I'm not
really sure if that's the cause of the problem
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4161 [23:21:24] <Gn0m3> Hi_
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4163 [23:21:46] <Gn0m3> I'm a French noobie in GNU/Linux, I
found this tutorial for passing to testing, is it good for u ?
4164 [23:21:47] <Gn0m3>
replaced-url
4165 [23:22:09] <Gn0m3> (I know, its in french but, can u just say
to me if it seems nice or completly broken :p ? )
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4167 [23:22:32] <annadane> Gn0m3, why do you want to use testing?
4168 [23:22:35] <annadane> testing can break
4169 [23:22:57] <Gn0m3> More recent packages, and just to test
4170 [23:23:02] <Gn0m3> For "learning purposes", if its
correct ? :p
4171 [23:23:09] <Tenkawa> Gn0m3: If you dont have a specific need
for testing and are new to linux you should learn the basics first
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4173 [23:23:16] <Gn0m3> Okay okay, thanks
4174 [23:23:32] <Tenkawa> it will save you a lot of headache
4175 [23:23:37] <Gn0m3> I will test that in virtual machine first.
I stay on my Debian stable w/ gnome for the moment :)
4176 [23:23:42] <Gn0m3> Hahahah thanks
4177 [23:23:48] <Tenkawa> good idea
4178 [23:23:57] <Tenkawa> good use of a virtual machine
4179 [23:24:02] <annadane>
replaced-url
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4185 [23:27:30] <dkz> this it's the issue I have on my Debian
server:
replaced-url
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4197 [23:35:54] <hyperlumic> dkz: Might I suggest checking out
ufw?
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4200 [23:36:18] <hyperlumic> dkz: It'll manage your iptables
rules much more simply. Based on that paste, it should serve your
needs well.
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4212 [23:41:40] <dkz> hyperlumic sounds great, it's just I
don't understand why suddenly iptables stop responding as
service
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4216 [23:42:53] <dkz> I even tried reinstalling the iptables
package, but I'm getting the same issue
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4243 [23:59:36] <hyperlumic> I don't use the iptables
service, honestly, so I'm of limited help. I do use ufw, so I
can attest to a lack of any issues with it. Anecdotally, anyway.
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