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54 [00:15:36] <devster31> can I configure apt to behave like yum
regarding new config files? meaning install the new one with a
suffix like .aptnew without prompting?
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57 [00:16:21] <bazhang> devster31, checked out what the apt man
says yet
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85 [00:32:00] <donaldtrump> so i downloaded uebergame from a
linux games website and its a bunch of exe files. how am i supposed
to run these exe files on debian
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91 [00:33:50] <Brigo> donaldtrump, i would say you don't,
but you always can try wine
92 [00:35:47] <silverfall> let's make linux great again!!
93 [00:35:56] <donaldtrump> oh, one of the files is an
executable with no extention. i allowed it to run as an executable
in the properties menu and now nothing happens when i run it. i
guess it doesnt work on my system :(
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96 [00:37:00] <TomTomTosch> read the instructions that came with
it if it's meant to run on linux, else try wine like suggested
before.
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100 [00:40:49] <donaldtrump> what is a good game that is easy to
install
101 [00:41:01] <donaldtrump> i want to enjoy the graphics drivers
i have installed
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104 [00:41:31] <TomTomTosch> - said no linux user ever?
105 [00:41:46] <TomTomTosch> try steam i'd say.
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110 [00:42:23] <donaldtrump> i dont have any games that this
computer can run on steam
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112 [00:42:36] <donaldtrump> why do no linux people play games on
linux
113 [00:42:53] <donaldtrump> they need to relax and play some
games
114 [00:43:02] <silverfall> first we have to get our jobs back
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116 [00:43:23] <silverfall> and make good deals
117 [00:43:38] <donaldtrump> we will build a wall made out of all
the graphics cards that linux doesnt support
118 [00:43:45] <donaldtrump> and we will make linus pay for it
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120 [00:45:09] <silverfall> linus isn't doing well
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123 [00:45:39] <silverfall> recently he was in one of those shit
ted talks
124 [00:46:12] <silverfall> I don't know how much they paid
him, but he sure didn't enjoy it
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126 [00:47:08] <donaldtrump> wow. i cant imagine that hes not
doing well though.
127 [00:47:15] <donaldtrump> this is the best ted talk
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128 [00:47:19] <donaldtrump> woops
129 [00:47:25] <TomTomTosch> ted does not pay speakers. and
let's keep this to support in here.
130 [00:47:31] <donaldtrump>
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131 [00:47:35] <donaldtrump> sorry
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142 [00:54:01] <lasdam> anyone knows how /etc/profile works/is
loaded exactly?
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161 [01:02:00] <lasdam> or whether I should pursue the
possibility of adding two strings to the $PATH globally/to all users
in a single file/instance with one of the string containing the
variable $USER (as well as somehow autocreating all missing
directories given whose path is given by this string for each user
on boot/init or whatever) or just give that idea up asap?
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204 [01:23:52] <buu> !8168
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207 [01:24:06] <buu> How do I tell which 8168 module to use?
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221 [01:27:06] <markybob> buu that probably needs package
firmware-realteODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODODk
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226 [01:27:54] <markybob> fucking cat
227 [01:28:06] <markybob> firmware-realtek
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229 [01:29:34] <mutante> markybob: we still need somebody to
write a FOSS clone of
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247 [01:38:54] <buu> markybob: Yeah, it's installed but it
has about a dozen 8168d-2.fw style files
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249 [01:39:41] <markybob> buu: yeah it should. it also requires a
restart. did you do that?
250 [01:39:48] <buu> ?
251 [01:39:57] <buu> My question was about which one to use
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253 [01:40:42] <markybob> it's automatic. when the system
restarts it'll pick the one needed without you doing anything.
254 [01:40:44] <jml2> buu, r8169 possibly
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258 [01:41:49] <jml2> buu, the module autolods the proper
firmware,... if there's an issue, you can check on boot-up with
dmesg|grep -i fail
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304 [02:06:46] <buu> For some reason my r8168 card boots up with
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305 [02:06:54] <buu> This makes it awfully difficult to get a
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356 [02:42:39] <bjonnh> Hi, I'm having an issue booting a
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357 [02:42:42] <bjonnh> goes to emergency mode
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403 [03:10:34] <uio> Hi, I am using LaTeX, and want to install a
missing package. But tlmgr does not seem to work on Wheezy. Any
suggestions for iinstalling missing La
404 [03:10:57] <uio> ...LaTeX packages on Wheezy?
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489 [03:26:57] <uio> \joint ubuntu
490 [03:27:01] <uio> \join ubuntu
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501 [03:31:37] <sbine> /join, not \join :/
502 [03:31:43] <uio> does anyone here use LaTeX
503 [03:31:52] <uio> sbine: Thanks - yeah I flipped it after.
504 [03:32:38] <StephanLahl> <yep. why?
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506 [03:34:05] <uio> StephanLahl: Do you use tlmgr for missing
packages?
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508 [03:35:05] <StephanLahl> Uhh, no. What is it?
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510 [03:35:44] <uio> StephanLahl: The package manger for texlive.
But wheezy doesn't have it, so I am trying to figure out how to
install packages manually.
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515 [03:37:01] <StephanLahl> can't help you there. But
jessie has it.
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517 [03:37:19] <uio> StephanLahl: Yeah, thanks anyway.
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519 [03:37:57] <StephanLahl> sorry :)
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521 [03:39:16] <markybob> uio you're using ubuntu and
wheezy? that's a weird mix.
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523 [03:40:06] <uio> markybob: Nope, I just know that ubuntu
doesn't use tlmgr, so thought they might have some advice. They
don't.
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534 [03:47:14] <Junka> how do i run debian-security-support
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539 [03:51:42] <markybob> Junka: you type check-support-status
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543 [03:53:11] <Junka> markybob: thanks
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545 [03:53:30] <Junka> how can i see which package provides or
pulled a pkg?
546 [03:55:06] <petemc> aptitude why
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548 [03:55:32] <petemc> maybe, seems you shouldnt use aptitude
now
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550 [03:56:27] <Junka> other way?
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553 [03:57:06] <markybob> petemc: why not?
554 [03:57:58] <petemc> because apt-get is preferred
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556 [03:58:08] <markybob> heh. okay.
557 [03:58:52] <petemc> sorry, dont know details
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564 [04:05:00] <petemc> markybob: you're here more than me,
is aptitude preferred?
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566 [04:05:23] <petemc> im out of the loop
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568 [04:06:44] <markybob> petemc: they do very different things.
for that task aptitude absolutely. now of course you have the new
player, apt (not apt-get). but that still lacks some basic things
like "clean". how apt merges apt-cache and apt-get is
pretty great though. just needs more time.
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571 [04:07:13] <petemc> cool, ta
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583 [04:13:03] <Junka> libmozjs-24-0 is unsupported :o
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585 [04:14:04] <markybob> ,v libmozjs-24-0
586 [04:14:06] <judd> Package: libmozjs-24-0 on amd64 -- jessie:
24.2.0-2; stretch: 24.2.0-3; sid: 24.2.0-3
587 [04:14:46] <markybob> ,checkbackport libmozjs-24-0
588 [04:14:47] <judd> Backporting package libmozjs-24-0 in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
589 [04:14:54] <markybob> there you go
590 [04:15:26] <markybob> !tell Junka about ssb
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603 [04:27:24] <Junka> markybob: all pkgs are unsupported
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608 [04:28:54] <markybob> Junka: by what? it's supported in
every release from stable forward
609 [04:29:05] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
610 [04:29:14] <jmcnaught> that package doesn't get security
support
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613 [04:29:57] <markybob> i had no idea that's what we were
talking about
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617 [04:30:55] <Junka> we never changed subject
618 [04:31:30] <jmcnaught> Junka: to be fair you never said
anything about security so it wasn't very clear
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620 [04:32:45] <Junka> well thanks
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655 [05:07:44] <uio> Hi - would anyone have any advice on
installing individual LaTeX packages?
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657 [05:08:04] <uio> I am trying to follow
replaced-url
658 [05:08:52] <uio> I followed the instructions for pict2e.sty,
but still get the error message: Package pict2e Error: No driver
specified at all
659 [05:09:03] <uio> Would anyone have any suggestions?
660 [05:09:49] <uio> Ideally I would just used tlmgr to get
missing LaTeX packages, but unfortunately this is not availabe in
Wheezy.
661 [05:10:15] <uio> I think it is in Jessie - would it be
possible to get it from Jessie do you think?
662 [05:10:50] <uio> I mean, could I get just the texlive
packages from Jessie? How might I do this?
663 [05:11:10] <jmcnaught> uio: you can't mix debian
releases like that
664 [05:11:35] <uio> jmcnaught: Okay. So there is no way to solve
that?
665 [05:11:48] <jmcnaught> uio: did you install texlive-pictures?
666 [05:11:50] <uio> jmcnaught: I mean, it would break something?
667 [05:12:14] <jmcnaught> uio: it probably would. jessie
packages are compiled for the libraries in jessie, not the ones for
whezy
668 [05:12:24] <uio> jmcnaught: I see.
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672 [05:12:55] <uio> jmcnaught: I am running a debian-live based
distro on a usb, so texlive-pictures is too big....
673 [05:12:56] <jmcnaught> uio: that pict2e.sty is in the
texline-pictures package, are you trying to install a version of it
manually for some reason?
674 [05:13:11] <uio> jmcnaught: yep, keep it slim.
675 [05:13:38] <uio> jmcnaught: It is just odd that the debian
wiki instructions don't work.
676 [05:13:42] <jmcnaught> uio: sounds like installing debian
would solve the problem. you could even install it to a USB stick if
you don't have harddrive space
677 [05:14:32] <jmcnaught> uio: i'm no latex expert so i
don't know how to help you with this problem other than
recommending that you use the packages provided by Debian
678 [05:14:58] <jmcnaught> there might be more info in a
README.Debian for one of the texlive packages
679 [05:15:42] <uio> jmcnaught: Okay - I have a question -
pict2e.sty is in a Debian macro,
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681 [05:15:57] <uio> jmcnaught: is there no way to take it out of
the macro?
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683 [05:16:17] <uio> jmcnaught: Debian has it, but I only want
part of the macro.
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686 [05:17:58] <jmcnaught> uio: sorry i don't know enough
about latex. you may find it a lot easier to install Debian and use
the packages rather than a livecd. There's also #latex
687 [05:19:25] <uio> jmcnaught: I have asked on LaTex - I think
they are sleeping... I can see here
replaced-url
688 [05:19:47] <uio> jmcnaught: It looks like debian has bundled
several smaller packages together.
689 [05:20:59] <jmcnaught> uio: the debian package (is that what
you mean by macro?) likely also contains a script that sets up the
contents of the package, so trying to extract a single file from the
package might not be very useful
690 [05:23:00] <uio> jmcnaught: Sorry, yes that is what I meant
by macro. I mean, there are commands to set up the contexts from
LaTeX. Really all I need is to access those files, place them and
then run a LaTeX command. I tried downloaded the pict2e files from
elsewhere, but I think that they are too new for Wheezy...
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694 [05:24:57] <jmcnaught> uio: honestly i think you're
going to have a much better time if you switch from live to
installed
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696 [05:25:51] <uio> jmcnaught: You are probably right - just my
harddrive is dying, so I wanted a usb distro.
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698 [05:27:25] <jmcnaught> uio: you *can* install debian to a USB
the same way you would to a hard drive, it's just going to be
slow
699 [05:27:51] <uio> jmcnaught: Ah, yeah, and the machine is from
2002, so it might be too painful.
700 [05:28:03] <pingfloyd> uio: you can't just buy a new HD?
701 [05:28:24] <pingfloyd> uio: you don't necessarily need
and SSD with tons of capacity that costs a lot
702 [05:28:25] <uio> pingfloyd: Well, this way the distro is
portable.
703 [05:28:38] <uio> pingfloyd: the machine is too old for ssd
704 [05:28:45] <pingfloyd> that's what I mean
705 [05:29:07] <uio> pingfloyd: I don't know, I just thought
a usb would work.
706 [05:29:19] <uio> pingfloyd: I was using puppy linux for a
while, but got fed up.
707 [05:29:34] <pingfloyd> you can a 7200 rpm 1TB for $50, 5400
rpm and lesser capacity even cheaper
708 [05:30:18] <uio> pingfloyd: but not for laptops I'd
imagine...
709 [05:30:35] <uio> pingfloyd: And other than this LaTeX thing,
this usb is doing great!
710 [05:31:47] <markybob> so your saying your laptop doesn't
support sata?
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712 [05:32:07] <pingfloyd> uio: those are cheap too
713 [05:32:23] <uio> markybob: Thinkpad t40 - not sure, I know it
cant do ssd
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717 [05:37:59] <pingfloyd> uio: the point is, there's no
reason you have to limp by with usb sticks
718 [05:38:08] <buu> How can it be too old for ssds
719 [05:38:13] <buu> Is it a freaking parallel cable
720 [05:38:35] <pingfloyd> even if you're tight on cash,
because you can get HDs for next to nothing these days
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722 [05:40:55] <SerajewelKS> what's the proper way to
configure ipv6 on a bridge, using /etc/network/interfaces and
bridge-utils? i have an "iface br0 inet static" section
with bridge_ports.
723 [05:41:33] <SerajewelKS> when i add an "iface br0 inet6
static" line, this causes errors when i "ifdown br0"
later, because (presumably) it processes the inet section first,
which deletes the bridge. then it tries to process the inet6 section
but br0 is gone.
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725 [05:42:15] <SerajewelKS> i've been using "up ip -6
addr add ..." in the inet section, but this feels like a hack
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731 [05:44:00] <SerajewelKS> oh, this is a documented bug:
replaced-url
732 [05:44:01] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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805 [06:43:11] <SerajewelKS> when you spend an hour trying to
figure out why no systems are picking up ipv6 router advertisements
sent by radvd only to discover you have an ebtables rule blocking
outgoing router advertisements on that interface
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807 [06:44:25] <Wulf> SerajewelKS: how long did it take you to
notice that other machines don't receive those packets?
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810 [06:46:00] <SerajewelKS> Wulf: after about 20 minutes of
banging my head against the wall i started running packet sniffers
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812 [06:46:15] <SerajewelKS> took me the other 40 to locate the
damn rule responsible, i forgot about ebtables completely
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814 [06:46:56] <SerajewelKS> the purpose of that rule was to
prevent accidentally sending out router advertisements to the WAN
side of this router. well earlier today i swapped the WAN and LAN
cables, and this is the one bit of config i forgot to swap the
interfaces on. :(
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816 [06:47:56] <SerajewelKS> i should not be doing this stuff
after midnight. brain becomes potato.
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818 [06:50:27] <Wulf> (:
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857 [07:27:55] <cluelessperson> Hi all, I need help
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860 [07:28:47] <cluelessperson> Unfortunately, I'm running
into the bug where debianinstaller's grubinstaller doesn't
correctly see the pci ssd as a disk, and decides to install grub to
the USB drive as /dev/sda instead.
861 [07:29:11] <cluelessperson> I can't just outright
install grub, because I'm using encrypted LVM
862 [07:29:17] <cluelessperson> Does anyone know how to solve
this?
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865 [07:31:17] <cluelessperson> I'm stuck with a dead laptop
unless I install something else
866 [07:31:58] <avis-> it should give you an option of what mount
point to write to grub to in the installer.
867 [07:32:12] <avis-> it useful to know when when it lists them
868 [07:32:23] <avis-> the boot drive anyway. its not hard to
figure out
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874 [07:34:24] <themill> cluelessperson: how are you copying the
installer to the usb stick?
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877 [07:36:22] <themill> cluelessperson: do you have /boot
outside your luks container? (the installer will have wanted to do
that)
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890 [07:44:44] <cluelessperson> themill, It looks like /boot is
inside luks
891 [07:45:03] <cluelessperson> themill, and it may not exactly
be luks
892 [07:45:57] <themill> grub has learnt how to unlock luks but I
don't know whether the version in jessie can and the installer
certainly doesn't configure that
893 [07:46:12] <themill> the installer wants to put /boot outside
and then lvm-inside-luks
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901 [07:50:54] <cluelessperson> themill, I don't know how
any of this works
902 [07:51:09] <cluelessperson> themill, I don't know why
the debian installer is being problematic to begin with. :/
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904 [07:51:19] <jml2> cluelessperson, that setup is not supported
905 [07:51:31] <cluelessperson> Here's the bug
906 [07:51:32] <cluelessperson>
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907 [07:51:36] <themill> cluelessperson: well putting /boot
inside the container isn't something that the installer wanted
to do
908 [07:51:45] <cluelessperson> jml2, it's not an unusual
setup, and it happens on a LOT of USB devices.
909 [07:51:54] <themill> cluelessperson: how are you copying the
installer to the usb stick?
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911 [07:52:01] <jml2> cluelessperson, it's not supported by
the installer
912 [07:52:02] <cluelessperson> themill, I don't know, I
just ran a default debian installer iso
913 [07:52:11] <themill> you don't just run an iso
914 [07:52:13] <cluelessperson> themill, Um, imagewriter in linux
mint.
915 [07:52:29] * themill wonders what imagewriter is
916 [07:52:37] * cluelessperson tries to find
917 [07:54:05] <themill> grub not ending up on the right disk is
normally associated with image writing software that tries to be
clever (like unetbootin and rufus) rather than just copying the
image to the device
918 [07:55:13] <cluelessperson> themill, That might be my
problem, how do you suggest writing the iso? dd ?
919 [07:55:16] <themill> beyond that, I doubt you're doing
to manage to fix this without having /boot outside the encrypted
container. As I said, it's possible in some situations but
you're going to need to do a lot of work yourself
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921 [07:55:40] <themill> this is even nicely documented... both
cp and dd work (debian has never actually recommended dd)
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923 [07:55:53] <jml2> cat
924 [07:56:02] <jml2> cp i think is problematic sometimes
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926 [07:56:17] <themill> cp works just fine
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928 [07:56:31] <cluelessperson> themill, just cp the contents of
iso to the usb?
929 [07:56:36] <themill> yes
930 [07:56:42] <cluelessperson> I'm not familiar cp being
used with isos
931 [07:56:43] <themill> err no
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933 [07:56:49] <themill> you copy the iso to the usb device
934 [07:56:53] <jml2> cat file.iso >/dev/[USB] :)
935 [07:57:08] <jml2> debian doc uses cat actually
936 [07:57:10] <dka> 1) can the registry be corrupted?
"docker logs nginx : empty, docker logs "jenkins: nothing
interesting"
937 [07:57:15] <themill> jml2: not since etch
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940 [07:57:47] <jml2> themill, i recall using cp on other distros
(possibly ushmuntu) and there's failure -- cp refuses to work
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942 [07:58:05] <jml2> themill, i'd consider dd and cat to be
safe .. not sure where you've seen cp documented though
943 [07:58:10] <dka> 1) I can pull but I cannot push to my docker
registry. I have io timeout.
944 [07:58:24] <themill> jml2: there is no reason for one of them
to work and others not to; the official documentation
945 [07:58:31] <jml2> themill, you have a link
946 [07:58:32] <jml2> ?
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948 [07:58:44] <cluelessperson> jml2, ah, that's simple. :)
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950 [07:58:46] <jml2> because i'm certain "cp" is
problematic on some linuxes
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952 [07:59:45] <themill>
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953 [08:00:12] <jml2> well it also mentions zcat..
954 [08:00:23] <themill> not for the ISO images
955 [08:00:30] <jml2> for cp, there's mention that
"sync" is used
956 [08:00:30] <themill> and cat has the added disadvantage of
requiring people to understand how output redirection works
957 [08:00:37] <themill> yes, I can read.
958 [08:00:45] <jml2> so if he were using "cp" he
should make sure not to forget to type "sync"
959 [08:00:51] <jml2> that's too many steps XD
960 [08:00:56] <themill> you have to for dd and cat too
961 [08:01:08] <themill> (I think I either wrote or proofread
these documents, you can stop telling me how this works now)
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963 [08:01:35] <jml2> i bookmarked... i'm used to using cat
though...
964 [08:01:50] <jml2> but i now instead prefer things like dc3dd
which can do checksums
965 [08:01:56] <themill> that's nice; now you can stop
arguing with people
966 [08:01:59] <jml2> which imho is better
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976 [08:08:23] <themill> cluelessperson: do I take it that
you're planning to reinstall then? Make sure you do end up with
/boot on the same disk but outside the luks container this time.
That *should* be the default for when you ask for an encrypted lvm
installation.
977 [08:09:47] <cluelessperson> themill, I was just following the
debian installer gui's prompts
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979 [08:10:45] <themill> yeah, so if it has got confused about
which is the hard drive and which is the install media (as happens
with unetbootin for instance) then it might get that wrong there too
980 [08:10:56] <themill> anyway, you now know what to check for
:)
981 [08:11:28] <cluelessperson> themill, I'm not sure how to
check becaues I'm not making a conscious decision as to how the
debian installer proceeds.
982 [08:11:35] <cluelessperson> i'm just following the
steps, like I always have.
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984 [08:12:46] <themill> well the installer very explicitly asks
you to check with devices you are installing to as it wants you to
be very sure about making/creating partitions
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986 [08:13:04] <themill> s/with/which/
987 [08:13:49] <cluelessperson> themill, right off the bat, using
that method with the usb there are only two partitions now, rather
than the three the "image writer" gave me, attemptting
install with that.
988 [08:14:35] <jml2> cluelessperson, i'm hoping you're
not trying to install on another partition on the usb install media
989 [08:14:36] <themill> yeah, so we can add this imagewriter
thing to the list of silly tools that think they know better and
actually break the installer
990 [08:14:47] <jml2> cluelessperson, (someone i know tried that
and they were having too many issues)
991 [08:15:26] <cluelessperson> jml2, nope, just the pci ssd of
the laptop
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993 [08:15:46] <jml2> cluelessperson, fwiw, what you can do with
"cp" and "cat" is the same as "dd" for
dumping the iso to the usb device
994 [08:15:53] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: if you're worried
about, switch consoles and check what's what
995 [08:16:01] <jml2> cluelessperson, unetbootin is something
else and is not considered a "dd"-like method
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997 [08:16:57] <jml2> cluelessperson, that i don't know.. i
suppose you should be trying to use the latest kernel for things pci
ssd
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1000 [08:20:05] <avis-> anyone got a high kernel in deb format
that is stable for jessie and willing to pass it along to me for
redhat enterprise linux desktop with 4 days out of 1 year
subscription left ?
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1003 [08:21:55] <jml2> avis-, possibly the most stupidest question
i ever read on this channel
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1005 [08:22:42] <cluelessperson> avis-, you can just download
it...
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1007 [08:24:29] <avis-> heck. i don't know where to download
it
1008 [08:24:55] <avis-> i assume by debian search results
it's 30 pages down and not very eye catchy
1009 [08:25:12] <avis-> jml2, you must be new to freenode
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1011 [08:25:48] <avis-> :D
1012 [08:26:08] <jml2> you must be trolling for redhat support
here on #debian
1013 [08:26:10] <cluelessperson> avis-,
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/
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1015 [08:26:12] <jml2> waste of time.
1016 [08:26:18] <avis-> thanks cluelessperson
1017 [08:26:48] <avis-> redhat ? me ? you think i don't need
codecs ? hahahhahhahaha
1018 [08:27:03] <avis-> you must never made a mistake
1019 [08:27:07] <avis-> thanks cluelessperson
1020 [08:27:26] <jml2> at least cluelessperson had a legitimate
question
1021 [08:27:56] <jelly> avis-: what's wrong with
jessie's default kernel?
1022 [08:28:18] <avis-> jelly. i'm a weirdo. i dream of cpu
optmizations it may not have
1023 [08:28:56] <jelly> you may dream of rebuilding your own, too
1024 [08:29:04] <avis-> i ain't smart
1025 [08:29:09] <avis-> don't ya get it
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1027 [08:29:18] <avis-> i was born in the country
1028 [08:29:21] <jelly> that's no excuse to not even try
1029 [08:29:33] <avis-> it is when you only got one computer
1030 [08:30:19] <jelly> you can have multiple kernels installed in
a single nstallation of debian and choose which one to boot at grub
time
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1032 [08:30:43] <avis-> thanks :D
1033 [08:30:56] <avis-> enjoy the distro. its very light for mate
:D
1034 [08:31:02] <jelly> jml2: you're antagonizing people with
stupid questions again. If you don't have anything worthwhile
to say, keep quiet.
1035 [08:31:26] <jml2> jelly, you're not reading the log
again.
1036 [08:31:33] <jml2> jelly, i'm not the one asking
questions.
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1038 [08:31:38] <jml2> jelly, nor for "redhat"
1039 [08:31:38] *** jelly sets mode: +q
*!*@modemcable108.157-131-66.mc.videotron.ca
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1042 [08:32:11] <jelly> not in the mood to argue this early in the
morning. Have a timeout, jml2
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1044 [08:32:45] <cluelessperson> jelly, I think your quiet was
misdirected from avis-
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1050 [08:33:53] <cluelessperson> themill, the debian install just
finished. Do you know how I can confirm the installation worked
before restarting? I can get the console I believe on another tty
1051 [08:33:56] <jelly> cluelessperson: no, no it was not.
1052 [08:34:50] <cluelessperson> jelly, oh, I went over the log
and I understand what you were saying, just the phrasing was
slightly confusing (to me anyway)
1053 [08:35:25] <jelly> nod
1054 [08:35:55] <cluelessperson> jelly, it's frustrating
sometimes, being new
1055 [08:36:07] <cluelessperson> I'm not even new, but
I'm a newb. See I try to learn EVERYTHING
1056 [08:36:14] <cluelessperson> and it goes slowly.
1057 [08:36:30] <pingfloyd> looks to me that avis- was trolling
and accomplished his/her mission
1058 [08:36:40] <jelly> "antagonizing people who ask
questions that seem stupid to you, again" would be less
ambiguous
1059 [08:37:25] <cluelessperson> themill, pingfloyd jml2 Well, I
ended up with the exact same result. I just got grub>
1060 [08:37:40] <cluelessperson> so I'm stuck
1061 [08:37:47] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: is it a persistent
device naming issue?
1062 [08:38:20] <cluelessperson> pingfloyd, I think so, just
installed debian using the typical iso, and the debianinstaller
grubinstall usb device name bug is hitting me hard.
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1065 [08:38:50] <pingfloyd> what's ls in grub shell bring up?
1066 [08:39:05] <cluelessperson> pingfloyd, My understanding of
the problem is that debian installer will install fine, but when it
runs grub install, it gets confused with the usb and doesn't
install grub properly
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1068 [08:39:26] <cluelessperson> pingfloyd, First, I installed
debian with an encrypted LVM, 2nd to answer your question,
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1070 [08:39:38] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: what if at the step
where the installer ask where to install grub you use by uuid?
1071 [08:39:42] <cluelessperson> (hd0) (hd0, gpt3) (hd0, gp2)
(hd0,gp1)
1072 [08:39:55] <cluelessperson> pingfloyd, I don't recall
being given an option
1073 [08:40:11] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: that might just be in
expert mode
1074 [08:40:28] <pingfloyd> that's usually what I use, so
can't remember what the normal mode omits
1075 [08:40:31] <cluelessperson> pingfloyd, I can rerun the
installation if you don't have anything else to attempt first.
1076 [08:41:04] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: I'm trying to
think of how you can address a situation if the device names map
differently with grub
1077 [08:41:11] * cluelessperson wishes bitcoin were more widely used
because he'd like to make a tipping system for helpful people.
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1079 [08:41:17] *** themill sets mode: +b *!*@66.131.157.108
1080 [08:41:19] *** jml2 was kicked by themill (On the Internet nobody
can hear you being subtle.)
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1082 [08:41:23] <pingfloyd> it's easily solved beyond that,
but for grub, I'm not sure offhand
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1084 [08:42:14] <cluelessperson> pingfloyd, it's easily
solved beyond that? meaning once you have things booting everything
else is easier to solve?
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1086 [08:42:30] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: I mean once you get
past the grub stage
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1090 [08:43:34] <cluelessperson> pingfloyd, I will attempt the
expert mode install
1091 [08:43:46] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: like in your grub.cfg
you usually have a set root='hd0,msdos1' or similar
1092 [08:43:48] <cluelessperson> I should've attempted it
before.
1093 [08:44:05] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: if it gets remapped
that early on, I'm not sure how you can address that in grub
1094 [08:45:01] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: what you might try
this time: when it gets to the point asking where to install grub,
pull up and another console and look under /dev/disk/by-uuid/ or set
labels and use them
1095 [08:45:18] <pingfloyd> I'm just not sure how grub will
handle reference by label or uuid though
1096 [08:46:22] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: I heard somewhere that
ssd is are especially troublesome at keeping a persistent
enumeration order
1097 [08:46:46] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: this is one of those
issues I've never really run into though.
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1101 [08:48:00] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: looks like there is
hope though
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1109 [08:51:59] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: this sounds similar to
your issue
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1110 [08:52:35] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: looks like there is
was just a matter of specifying manually where to install grub
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1118 [08:56:09] <cluelessperson> pingfloyd, Finally, something
new. from grub "It seems that this computer is configured to
boot via EFI, but maybe that configuration will not work for booting
from the hard drive. Some EFI firmware implementations do not meet
the EFI specification" A workaround for this problem is to
install an extra copy of the EFI version of the GRUB boot loader to
a fallback location.
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1123 [08:57:39] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: well that sounds like
progress. I don't know much about efi though.
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1127 [08:59:32] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: you might want to go
through this
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1129 [08:59:46] <cluelessperson> pingfloyd, IT WORKS
1130 [08:59:49] <cluelessperson> pingfloyd, I love you
1131 [09:00:10] <pingfloyd> it's working now?
1132 [09:00:18] <cluelessperson> themill, pingfloyd jmcnaught jml2
Thank you
1133 [09:00:18] <Grievre> Does apt have a way to manually install
a .deb file while also trying to fetch dependencies, the way yum
lets you do "yum install /path/to/package.rpm"
1134 [09:00:23] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: no problem
1135 [09:00:27] <Grievre> or do you have to use dpkg and manually
install dependencies?
1136 [09:00:37] <cluelessperson> Grievre, dpkg -i something.deb
1137 [09:00:38] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: chalk it up to one
more situation why expert mode is the way to go
1138 [09:00:46] <Grievre> that fetches dependencies now?
1139 [09:00:54] <Grievre> I remember way back in the day it
didn't use to
1140 [09:00:54] <cluelessperson> Grievre, you can also get a list
of the depencies, wget them, install them all
1141 [09:00:56] <themill> cluelessperson: oh, good stuff, what
fixed?
1142 [09:01:18] <pingfloyd> cluelessperson: if nothing else, it
often gives more sense of what is going on
1143 [09:01:30] <cluelessperson> Grievre, apt-get will handle
dependencies, dpkg just handels packages , google how to get list of
dependencies to download via wget, and install so you can fulfill
them
1144 [09:01:42] <cluelessperson> pingfloyd, it does. :)
1145 [09:01:51] <Grievre> okay so the answer is "no"
then, thanks
1146 [09:01:53] <themill> Grievre: sufficiently new apt can
install the .deb directly and also resolve things (stretch onwards)
1147 [09:01:59] <Grievre> themill: cool!
1148 [09:02:38] <themill> or you can use gdebi
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1154 [09:05:34] <jelly> Grievre: the conservative CLI approach
that works on older (an current) releases is to dpkg -i foo.deb and
run "apt-get -f install" when dpkg fails
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1157 [09:07:20] <themill> s/conservative/optimistic/
1158 [09:08:15] <themill> (it assumes that foo.deb is installable
and if it isn't, you get to clean up yourself; other approaches
check that it is indeed installable first)
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1161 [09:11:44] <ngocngoc> Guys, so I'm really trying to
figure out what's going wrong here.
1162 [09:11:48] <ngocngoc> I learnt about this 3D interactive
wallpaper thing in Ubuntu
1163 [09:11:53] <ngocngoc> wait
1164 [09:11:55] <ngocngoc> oopsie
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1190 [09:27:14] <idlecore> Hello.
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1193 [09:30:07] <idlecore> Is there a simple way to submit our
software to be listed on debian repos?
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1211 [09:39:43] <halt> Hey guys, I'm lost, fighting against
exim4 and the HELO address, without any luck, the exim4 official
docs does not work so debian changed something I just can't
figure out what , can please someone point me to the right direction
?
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1245 [09:57:38] <antzero> I'm on KDE Plasma, is there a way
to set icons on taskbar mode?
1246 [09:57:48] <antzero> Some apps have the general "app
icon" placeholder
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1317 [10:41:31] <cluelessperson> wtf
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1319 [10:41:41] <cluelessperson> Debian's chromium
doesn't have webgl enabled?
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1321 [10:41:49] <cluelessperson> no flash, no html5 youtube?
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1324 [10:43:10] <TomTomTosch> chromium is capable of webgl.
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1327 [10:43:37] <TomTomTosch> maybe you should describe yor
problem.
1328 [10:44:03] <jelly> no flash is correct, that's a closed
source component that only comes with google chrome build
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1333 [10:46:48] <cluelessperson> TomTomTosch, I've installed
Chromium on debian, and it seems that all hardware acceleration is
unavailable
1334 [10:46:58] <cluelessperson> not disabled, but unavailable
1335 [10:47:08] <cluelessperson> youtube oesn't render video,
etc
1336 [10:47:16] <AimHere> Strange. I'e been writing webgl
stuff and testing it on Debian sid chromium
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1344 [10:53:04] <cluelessperson> I didn't do anything special
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1346 [10:53:10] <cluelessperson> all I did was intall debian, and
then gnome
1347 [10:53:20] <cluelessperson> and then chromium, and voila,
issues
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1349 [10:54:56] <dka> Need help with docker registry and nginx :
replaced-url
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1353 [10:55:52] <jelly> cluelessperson: does opengl work at all?
pastebin the output of "xdriinfo" (x11-utils) and
"glxinfo" (mesa-utils) and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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1358 [10:57:27] <strk> I've an USB light I'd like to
turn on/off programmatically, but whoile the light works fine,
"lsusb" doesn't show a difference when the light is
plugged or unplugged, nor I can find traces of the
pluggin/unplugging in the logs, how do I tell which USB port to
power on/off ?
1359 [10:57:52] <jelly> cluelessperson:
replaced-url
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1362 [10:58:29] <TomTomTosch> sounds like missing codecs, which
has nothing to do with opengl hardware acceleration.
1363 [10:58:37] <cluelessperson> jelly, Hm, seems it doesn't
work in "Chromium" but seems to work fine in Chrome
1364 [10:58:38] <cluelessperson> hrm
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1367 [10:58:41] <TomTomTosch> i'd also like to know what
uname -a says
1368 [10:58:56] <strk> there are a total of 6 usb connectors
externally, lsusb shows 3 buses (2 2.0 root hubs and 1 3.0 root hub)
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1371 [11:01:00] <jelly> strk: it's quite possible the light
is not a usb device at all, and that it only uses voltage rails
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1374 [11:01:42] <TomTomTosch> cluelessperson: the output of uname
-a please. chrome://gpu/ might give you more info about the problems
chromium might have on your system.
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1378 [11:02:09] <strk> jelly: that's fine, as long as I can
change the voltage (can I?)
1379 [11:02:25] <strk> jelly: only need an on/off switch for the
light (which is otherwise always on)
1380 [11:02:36] <jelly> no idea about that
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1382 [11:03:08] <dym> Hey all! Trying to install Debian 7.0.10 i
get errors on selecting and installing software (from amd64 DVD) and
Console4 shows this:
replaced-url
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1397 [11:15:10] <cluelessperson> jelly, TomTomTosch
replaced-url
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1404 [11:18:18] <jelly> dym: ouch. Which tasks did you select, if
any?
1405 [11:18:29] <stanger> Need cvv?
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1410 [11:19:31] <dym> jelly: Standard System Tools, SSH Server.
1411 [11:19:36] <dym> pretty plain system
1412 [11:19:58] <jelly> stanger: is that a debian question?
1413 [11:20:06] <dym> This is super-odd. Does it not have suitable
sources in the installation?
1414 [11:20:44] <jelly> I guess it's possible a (very) recent
update for a package broke something for wheezy
1415 [11:21:03] <dym> So deeply frustrating, since i need wheezy
specifically for an application :D
1416 [11:21:15] <dym> plus grub2 install failed
1417 [11:21:16] <stanger> Need account Amazon
1418 [11:21:18] <dym> as icing on the cake
1419 [11:21:21] <jelly> dym: are you able to install just a base
system, without any tasks?
1420 [11:21:36] <dym> jelly: negative. deselected everything
afterwards - same result
1421 [11:21:44] <dym> as mentioned - even grub2 failed
1422 [11:21:45] <jelly> eyup, that's bad
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1427 [11:25:12] <jelly> dym: you might want to show the failures
in #debian-boot over on irc.oftc.net, that's the debian
installer channel. Also maybe #debian-lts on the same network now
that LTS people have taken over wheezy security
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1429 [11:25:58] <jelly> dym: was there anything special
you've chosen, is it just plain standard amd64 netinst for
wheezy?
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1431 [11:27:41] <jelly> dym: if you can point out the exact .iso
you used I can try to reproduce in a fresh VM
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1434 [11:30:10] <cluelessperson> I think I hate gnome 3
1435 [11:30:39] <dym> jelly: will check for the link
1436 [11:30:59] <stanger> Need ccs
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1439 [11:32:40] <stanger> Need ccs ccv account Amazon
1440 [11:32:46] <dym> stanger: go away
1441 [11:32:50] <dym> This is a debian support channel
1442 [11:33:13] <stanger> Ok ty
1443 [11:33:18] <stanger> Free ? Ccs?
1444 [11:33:21] <stanger> Ccv?
1445 [11:33:32] <silverfall> css 3?
1446 [11:33:33] <stanger> Thx have free cvv
1447 [11:33:37] <stanger> ?
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1449 [11:34:40] <dym> (ccv /ccs refer to stolen credit card
details)
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1451 [11:36:04] <dym> jelly:
replaced-url
1452 [11:36:18] <dym> it was 7.10.0 not 7.0.10 - sorry for the
mixup
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*!*@186-185-139-211.genericrev.telcel.net.ve
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1459 [11:37:46] * cluelessperson thinks
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1463 [11:41:18] <linux-fox> hi, all
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1466 [11:41:55] <linux-fox> i want to use usb stick as my boot
device to install debian8, how can i make it?
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1477 [11:48:01] <dym> Maybe i can drop a mysql question here too,
since #mysql seems kinda deserted this time of the day. I have a
server not starting up and throwing this error:
replaced-url
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1493 [11:59:30] <dutchfish> dym, you to get a clear picture what
is the output of `cat /etc/debian_version` and what is the output of
`uname -a` ?
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1496 [12:01:35] <dym> dutchfish: regarding the mysql question?
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1498 [12:01:53] <dutchfish> dym, yes
1499 [12:02:19] <dym> 7.10 / Linux selma 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP
Debian 3.2.73-2+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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1504 [12:02:50] <dutchfish> dym, and what version of mysel-server
?
1505 [12:03:00] <dutchfish> mysql*
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1507 [12:03:05] <dym> 5.5.49-0+deb7u1
1508 [12:03:39] <dutchfish> ,version mysql-server
1509 [12:03:40] <judd> Package: mysql-server on amd64 --
squeeze-security: 5.1.73-1; squeeze: 5.1.73-1; squeeze-security-lts:
5.1.73-1+deb6u1; squeeze-security-lts: 5.5.47-0+deb6u1; wheezy:
5.5.47-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.47-0+deb7u1; jessie:
5.5.47-0+deb8u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.49-0+deb7u1;
jessie-proposed-updates: 5.5.49-0+deb8u1; jessie-security:
5.5.49-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.6.30-1; stretch:
1510 [12:03:41] <judd> 5.6.30-1
1511 [12:04:20] <dutchfish> dym, on that machine i recommend
5.5.47-0+deb7u1
1512 [12:04:32] <dym> how do i downgrade to that version?
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1515 [12:06:22] <dutchfish> dym, you cant downgrade. I am afraid
you need to make a backup as a start. I dont know where your version
is coming from, maybe from bpo? i bet looking at the errors libc
doesnt match up because your kernel is wheezy.
1516 [12:07:10] <dutchfish> dym, then remove that version of
mysql-server and install the correct one. You need to dump the
DB's before you start if any.
1517 [12:07:22] <dym> dutchfish: i have daily dumps anyways
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1519 [12:07:42] <dutchfish> dym, if apt sources are in in shape
installing then is as simple as apt-get install foo
1520 [12:08:15] <dutchfish> dym, question remains how did that
version land on that box?
1521 [12:08:26] <dym> as in "apt-get install
mysql-server-5.5.47-0+deb7u1"
1522 [12:08:29] <dym> well
1523 [12:08:57] <dym> dutchfish:
replaced-url
1524 [12:09:01] <dym> state of sources
1525 [12:09:22] <dutchfish> dym, no more like apt-get install
mysql-server, because wheezy-security has the correct version in the
repo
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1529 [12:09:53] <dutchfish> dym, or download it from archives and
manually install it along with the correct dependecies
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1531 [12:10:07] <dutchfish> dym, like the client/tools
1532 [12:10:29] <dym> dutchfish: odd!
1533 [12:10:44] <dym> aptitude offers me 5.5.49-0
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1535 [12:11:23] <dutchfish> dym, that looks like the repo is
wrong, iow pointing to jessie
1536 [12:11:49] <dym> did you see the previous link?
1537 [12:11:56] <dutchfish> dym, yes
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1540 [12:12:20] <dym> are those sources incorrect?
1541 [12:12:22] <dutchfish> dym, there is your cute little
problem, i gues
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1543 [12:12:37] <dutchfish> dym, seams so, yes
1544 [12:12:50] <dym> can you link me to correct sources?
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1546 [12:13:38] <dutchfish> dym, your apt source files is already
correct. I am baffled as well.
1547 [12:13:59] <dutchfish> dym, maybe others have a clue about
that
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1549 [12:15:15] <dym> dutchfish:
replaced-url
1550 [12:15:17] <dym> that explains it
1551 [12:15:39] <dym> its the recommended wheezy version
1552 [12:16:04] <dutchfish> dym, look in here for oldstable
replaced-url
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1554 [12:16:29] <dutchfish> ,version mysql-5.5
1555 [12:16:30] <judd> No package named 'mysql-5.5' was
found in amd64.
1556 [12:17:10] <dutchfish> ,version mysql-server-5.5
1557 [12:17:11] <dym> I would really like to just install a .deb
or similar, at best change sources to point to oldstable packages
1558 [12:17:11] <judd> Package: mysql-server-5.5 on amd64 --
squeeze-security-lts: 5.5.47-0+deb6u1; wheezy: 5.5.47-0+deb7u1;
jessie: 5.5.47-0+deb8u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.49-0+deb7u1;
jessie-proposed-updates: 5.5.49-0+deb8u1; jessie-security:
5.5.49-0+deb8u1
1559 [12:17:25] <dym> see, it's in wheezy sec
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1561 [12:17:30] <dutchfish> dym, yes
1562 [12:17:43] <dutchfish> dym, this is really odd
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1564 [12:17:44] <dym> im gonna give disabling security a shot
1565 [12:17:51] <dym> and then hold the package
1566 [12:17:57] <dutchfish> yes
1567 [12:18:04] <dym> yeah, that works
1568 [12:18:24] <dutchfish> dang, now the upper gods may decide
1569 [12:18:33] <Gaiseric> Weird, does aptitude lack a --dry-run
mode?
1570 [12:18:52] <dutchfish> Gaiseric, aptitude -s
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1573 [12:19:07] <dutchfish> Gaiseric, coming from -s = simulate
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1575 [12:19:33] <Gaiseric> dutchfish: Oh, thanks!
1576 [12:19:38] <dutchfish> Gaiseric, yw
1577 [12:19:45] <dym> dutchfish: the mysqld still doesnt start as
5.5.47
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1580 [12:20:08] <dutchfish> dym, same errors?
1581 [12:20:11] <dym>
replaced-url
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1584 [12:20:17] <dym> checking log now
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1590 [12:21:43] <dutchfish> dym, looks like the remove/purge of
the version you uninstalled had some left overs, purge it check in
the dirs and /ect for leftovers and rinse and repeat
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1592 [12:22:00] <dutchfish> /etc*
1593 [12:22:04] <dym> dutchfish: on it
1594 [12:22:57] <dym> :D why does it try to start it on remove
--purge? :D
1595 [12:22:58] <dutchfish> dym, or fixed it the otherway around
(not tested this myself) for the dependecies for the nwer version.
1596 [12:23:22] <dym>
replaced-url
1597 [12:23:26] <dutchfish> dym, because of the postremove scripts
1598 [12:24:16] <dutchfish> dym, not completing
1599 [12:24:16] <dym> okay, purge seems to fail also
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1601 [12:25:10] <dutchfish> dym, hold on a sec before we mess it
all up
1602 [12:25:17] <dym> im here :)
1603 [12:25:49] <dutchfish> dym, start aptitude in interactive
mode and look for obselete libs if there are any
1604 [12:26:15] <dym> Update should show, right?
1605 [12:26:23] <dym> U - G
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1607 [12:26:24] <dutchfish> dym, no dont run that now
1608 [12:26:24] <dym> anyways
1609 [12:26:45] <dym> G shows mysql-server as partially installed
1610 [12:26:50] <dutchfish> dym, because the packagemanager isnt
in a completed state yet
1611 [12:26:57] <dutchfish> dym, right
1612 [12:27:04] <dutchfish> dym, start aptitude in interactive
mode and look for obselete libs if there are any
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1614 [12:27:29] <dym> dutchfish: how exactly do i do that? havent
ever gotten further than installing, updating there.
1615 [12:27:38] <dym> i know keystroked U and G :)
1616 [12:27:41] <dym> And / ofc.
1617 [12:27:47] <dym> keystrokes*
1618 [12:27:48] <dutchfish> dym, just type `aptitude`
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1620 [12:27:56] <dutchfish> dym, then enter
1621 [12:27:57] <dym> i know :D im in interactive mode
1622 [12:28:08] <JyZyXEL> how can i start X apps from within a
chroot?
1623 [12:28:20] <dym> dutchfish: i meant within interactive mode
1624 [12:28:36] <dutchfish> dym, got to obselete and locally
created and press enter, then tell me whats there
1625 [12:29:08] <dutchfish> s/got/go
1626 [12:29:48] <dym> dutchfish: i dont seem to have that point in
the list:
replaced-url
1627 [12:30:41] <dutchfish> dym, then there are none, thats good
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1630 [12:31:17] <dutchfish> dym, so we just need to purge somehow
the mysql-server-5.5 package completely
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1632 [12:31:39] <dym> ill try from interactive mode
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1634 [12:31:40] <dutchfish> dym, and then reinstall the right one
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1636 [12:32:25] <dutchfish> dym, and probably along the virtual
package `msql-server`
1637 [12:32:36] <dutchfish> mysql-server*
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1639 [12:33:25] <dym> dutchfish:
replaced-url
1640 [12:33:28] <dym> apparently that did it
1641 [12:33:36] <dym> had to manually clean /etc/mysql tho
1642 [12:33:56] <dutchfish> dym, ok, now aptitude update and look
if it is error free
1643 [12:34:18] <dym> affirmative.
1644 [12:34:24] <dym> (lacking security now, obv)
1645 [12:34:42] <dutchfish> dym, now just for the hack of it,
aptitude install mysql-server-5.5
1646 [12:34:44] <dym> ill install the correct version from
interactive now.
1647 [12:34:56] <dutchfish> dym, right
1648 [12:35:10] <dym> ah! it does ask for rootpw :)
1649 [12:35:21] <dutchfish> dym, of couse
1650 [12:35:35] <JyZyXEL> has anyone tried schroot on jessie? it
doesn't seem to be working correctly
1651 [12:35:43] <JyZyXEL> it doesn't create the bind mounts
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1655 [12:36:16] <dym> dutchfish: will i be able to re-insert my
mysql user table too?
1656 [12:36:19] <JyZyXEL> also, 'mtab' is missing from
the chroot
1657 [12:36:35] <dutchfish> dym, if you made dumps as i saked,
sure
1658 [12:36:37] <JyZyXEL> and fstab is empty in the chroot
1659 [12:36:41] <dutchfish> asked*
1660 [12:36:46] <dym> starting failed
1661 [12:36:48] <dym> :/
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1665 [12:37:22] <dutchfish> dym, so now we now, that the version
inside wheezy-security is broken somehow
1666 [12:37:39] <dym> dmn
1667 [12:37:41] <dym> damn*
1668 [12:37:44] <dutchfish> dym, purge it again
1669 [12:38:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1646
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1672 [12:38:19] <dym> dutchfish: done
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1676 [12:40:08] <dutchfish> dym, we need to manually get the
former one out from the archive wheezy repos
1677 [12:40:17] <dutchfish> dym, at it, a sec
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1679 [12:41:26] <dym> dutchfish: im here, hit me up
1680 [12:44:04] <dym> dutchfish: im trying to relocate the machine
in the meantime. Still that problem needs fixing.
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1682 [12:45:20] <dutchfish> dym, i am not getting acces to it, ask
someone else
1683 [12:45:28] <JyZyXEL> figured it out; debians example of
schroot.conf was simply missing the "type=directory"
definition
1684 [12:45:29] <dutchfish> dym, no idea why
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1686 [12:45:47] <JyZyXEL> that caused none of the scripts to run
for the chroots
1687 [12:46:02] <JyZyXEL> what a disgusting little pitfall
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1689 [12:46:05] <dym> dutchfish: access to what? wheezy-sec?
1690 [12:46:11] <dym> repos?
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1692 [12:46:20] <dym> jelly: still around?
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1694 [12:47:42] <dutchfish> dym, got it
replaced-url
1695 [12:48:49] * jelly is away, leave a message after the beep (there
is no beep)
1696 [12:49:04] <dym> :D
1697 [12:49:07] <dutchfish> lol
1698 [12:49:31] <dym> dutchfish: okay, how do i proceed exactly?
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1702 [12:50:26] <dutchfish> dym, download the correct one for your
ARCH, and install it manually (as root) `dpkg -i [package file name]
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1704 [12:51:38] <dutchfish> dym, after that (if that one runs ok)
you need to prevent (temporary) the upgrade, until the gods have
fixed it
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1706 [12:52:10] <dutchfish> dym, and prevent remote access
1707 [12:52:13] <dym> as in mysql-server 5.5.47-0+deb6u1 =>
mysql-server_5.5.47-0+deb6u1_all.deb`?
1708 [12:52:26] <dutchfish> dym, yep
1709 [12:52:37] <dym> dutchfish: i have no other means of access
right now
1710 [12:52:45] <dutchfish> dym, ok, fair enough
1711 [12:53:19] <dym> "mysql-server hängt ab von
mysql-server-5.1 | mysql-server-5.5; aber:"
1712 [12:53:21] <dym> wat
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1714 [12:53:44] <dym> whilst installing 5.5
1715 [12:53:44] <dym> :D
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1718 [12:54:32] <dutchfish> dym, you need to install the depending
packages as well (on the same page)
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1722 [12:55:10] <dutchfish> dym, so that virtual package
mysql-server, probably
1723 [12:55:37] <dutchfish> dym, its a mess
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1725 [12:55:47] <dutchfish> dym, (not your fault)
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1729 [12:57:40] <dutchfish> dym, and mysql-server-5.5
5.5.47-0+deb6u1 is the one to start with
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1732 [12:59:49] <dutchfish> dym, along with mysql-client-5.5
5.5.47-0+deb6u1 probably
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1736 [13:00:49] <dutchfish> dym, in any case it will tell you
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1743 [13:03:47] <dutchfish> dym, oh and do report that bug with
your stacktrace
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1750 [13:06:12] <dym> hahah
1751 [13:06:15] <dym> dutchfish: now libaio1 comes into play
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1753 [13:06:52] <dym> when i try to install it from current
sources, it suggests removing mysql-server again :D
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1756 [13:07:24] <dutchfish> dym, sigh, let me check
1757 [13:08:08] <dym> and mysql-client in that version depends on
libdbd-mysql-perl
1758 [13:08:18] <dym> (>= 1.2202)
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1760 [13:08:48] <dutchfish> dym,
replaced-url
1761 [13:09:10] <dutchfish> ,version libai01
1762 [13:09:11] <judd> No package named 'libai01' was
found in amd64.
1763 [13:09:28] <dutchfish> ,version libaio1
1764 [13:09:29] <judd> Package: libaio1 on amd64 -- squeeze:
0.3.107-7; wheezy: 0.3.109-3; jessie: 0.3.110-1; stretch: 0.3.110-2;
sid: 0.3.110-2
1765 [13:10:06] <dutchfish> dym, so you prolly need this one
replaced-url
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1767 [13:11:18] <dutchfish> dym, anyway, you probably know the
drill by now for the deps and how to solve it
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1769 [13:11:35] <dutchfish> dym, its finicky but can be done
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1772 [13:12:11] <dym> dutchfish: ,version libdbd-mysql-perl
1773 [13:12:15] <dym> ,version libdbd-mysql-perl
1774 [13:12:16] <judd> Package: libdbd-mysql-perl on amd64 --
squeeze: 4.016-1; wheezy: 4.021-1+b1; jessie: 4.028-2+b1; stretch:
4.033-1+b1; sid: 4.033-1+b1
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1777 [13:12:52] <dutchfish> dym, you can query judd with /msg btw
1778 [13:13:53] <dym> cheers
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1780 [13:14:24] <dutchfish> dym, let me know how it all went when
you are done?
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1786 [13:15:45] <dym> will do
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1788 [13:15:49] <dym> dutchfish: cheers so dar
1789 [13:15:50] <dym> far*
1790 [13:15:57] <dutchfish> dym, gl
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1794 [13:16:51] <Gaiseric> Hello again! Two kernel-related
questions: (1) Is there any serious reason I shouldn't upgrade
my Jessie to the backports kernel? Anything I should know? DKMS
should work automatically, correct?
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1800 [13:17:27] <Gaiseric> and (2)... Is irqbalance recommended
for Intel CPUs (Haswell)?
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1802 [13:18:02] <Gaiseric> I saw it as a recommended package,
but...
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1805 [13:18:06] <dutchfish> Gaiseric, in theory yes, but only run
a newer kernel if there is a real need, the change of bugs are
always greater at newer stuff
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1807 [13:18:56] <JyZyXEL> where can i get the default /etc/group
file for debian?
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1809 [13:19:04] <dutchfish> Gaiseric, Haswell is pretty weel
supported in the current one, now if you where on skylake it would
be a different story
1810 [13:19:15] <Gaiseric> Hah, according to our lovely channel
bot I suffer from "sns syndrome"
1811 [13:19:30] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, its created on install as far
as i know
1812 [13:19:33] <Gaiseric> dpkg: sns syndrome
1813 [13:19:33] <dpkg> Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious
disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time
something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about
<backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than
upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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1816 [13:19:47] <JyZyXEL> dutchfish: what about when deboostrap is
uused?
1817 [13:19:53] <JyZyXEL> what creates it then?
1818 [13:20:00] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, you
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1820 [13:20:35] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, i could be mistaken, not sure
if it is in the base system or debootstrap
1821 [13:21:09] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, apt-file is your friend
1822 [13:21:54] <JyZyXEL> apt-file doesn't find any package
that has /etc/group
1823 [13:21:57] <Gaiseric> dutchfish: The "stable"
kernel would continue to be installed, of course. Would it get the
regular DKMS etc. updates though? If yes I'm tempted to give it
a go...
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1825 [13:22:31] <dutchfish> Gaiseric, my 2 cents, don't on a
Haswell system, at best you gain nothing
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1827 [13:22:58] <dutchfish> Gaiseric, unless you have some new
hardware/cards that needs it
1828 [13:23:47] <Gaiseric> Hmm, it's just that new kernels
always seem so sweet... :D
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1831 [13:24:35] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, its probably generated by a
udeb on install then
1832 [13:24:55] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, in that case dpkg-file wont
find it
1833 [13:25:27] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, rem a deboostrapped system is
not a Debian yet
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1836 [13:25:59] <JyZyXEL> schroot overwrites all the user
databases on the chroot with the host files by default
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1839 [13:27:10] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, see the copy parts
replaced-url
1840 [13:27:14] <linux-fox> hi, all ,
1841 [13:27:20] <JyZyXEL> it doesn't even have the courtesy
to back up the old ones u_u
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1844 [13:27:52] <linux-fox> i want to use usb stick as my boot
device to install debian 8 , how can i make it?
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1846 [13:28:12] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, its pretty arcane, yes
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1848 [13:28:34] <JyZyXEL> so to properly fix this, i would need to
deboostrap a complete new system :p
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1850 [13:28:47] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, thats its usecase, yes
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1853 [13:29:48] <dutchfish> JyZyXEL, however you can guide and
script it, see debian live
1854 [13:30:48] <JyZyXEL> yeah i already commented out the
nssdatabases script
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1874 [13:44:07] <TomTomTosch> linux-fox: do you want to install
debian onto the usb drive or put the installer on the usb drive?
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1878 [13:45:09] <linux-fox> TomTomTosch, i want to put the
installer on the usb stick
1879 [13:45:29] <linux-fox> boot the machine from usb stick to
install the debian
1880 [13:45:56] <TomTomTosch> linux-fox: if you are on linux then
cp /path/to/iso /dev/sdX
1881 [13:46:10] <TomTomTosch> linux-fox: else use win32diskimager
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1883 [13:46:37] <TomTomTosch> !tell linux-fox about
win32diskimager
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1885 [13:46:52] <linux-fox> TomTomTosch, can i use "dd"
to make it?
1886 [13:46:57] <strk> how can I debug the absence of transparent
background support ?
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1888 [13:47:15] <strk> Xorg.0.log contains: [ 9.485] (II)
intel(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
"Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
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1890 [13:47:25] <strk> lspci reports: 00:02.0 VGA compatible
controller: Intel Corporation Crystal Well Integrated Graphics
Controller (rev 08)
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1892 [13:47:39] <TomTomTosch> linux-fox: yes, cp /path/to/iso
/dev/sdX; sync; is the way suggested by the install manual though.
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1895 [13:48:07] <linux-fox> TomTomTosch, thank you, i will try it
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1897 [13:51:12] <strk> ops, I was looking at the wrong machine,
the correct one has a 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel
Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 08)
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1901 [13:53:22] <bugnuts> I wanna create a meme!!! i just have an
ingenious one!
1902 [13:53:38] <bugnuts> what can i use to manipulate photos in
debian?
1903 [13:53:48] <TomTomTosch> gimp
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1905 [13:54:07] <bugnuts> i want to get an islamic state flag, and
slap on it, "the worlds largest darwin award"
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1907 [13:54:20] <bugnuts> ty
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1910 [13:55:17] <AlexPortable> how can i get the current screen
resolution in the cli?
1911 [13:55:32] <bugnuts> get or set?
1912 [13:55:35] <Crypto0> hello , im using vbox and im trying to
install kali linux on it , but i have problem that i cant dual boot
it , cuz when i dual boot i got black screen
1913 [13:55:47] <dvs> !kali
1914 [13:55:47] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
1915 [13:56:10] <Crypto0> i downloaded kali linux from kali.org
1916 [13:56:24] <AlexPortable> bugnuts: get. it's set right,
i want to start x session with resolution of the monitor
1917 [13:57:17] <TomTomTosch> AlexPortable: xdpyinfo | grep
dimensions | awk '{print $2}'
1918 [13:57:49] <TomTomTosch> oh, might not work if x is not
running.
1919 [13:58:00] <TomTomTosch> you will have to test it x)
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1921 [13:58:08] <dym> dutchfish: postponed for now. Moved
everything to anoter server to get things up&running again. will
be on it again tomorrow.
1922 [13:58:30] <bugnuts> Crypto0, vm box is layer 2
virtulisation, thus it runs inside the opperationg system. dual
booting is not virtulisation, its installed.
1923 [13:58:38] <bugnuts> or vbox
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1925 [13:58:45] <TomTomTosch> dym: dutchfish has left the
building. he will probably be back later.
1926 [13:58:57] <Crypto0> i just got black screen when i press
install or graphic install
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1929 [13:59:15] <AlexPortable> TomTomTosch: nope, xdpyinfo: unable
to open display "".
1930 [13:59:18] <bugnuts> then it might be an issue with graphics
drivers
1931 [13:59:21] <dym> TomTomTosch: Guess he'll get the
highlight msg ;) Thanks for the heads-up tho.
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1937 [14:00:12] <bugnuts> you would have to run it virtulised
then, and kali dont play nice like this, you will pay a big
performance hit
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1942 [14:01:03] <bugnuts> you may be able to include your graphix
driver as part of the install dvd but... im not sure how to do that
1943 [14:01:49] <Crypto0> bugnuts , do you have team viewer ? to
check for me?
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1945 [14:02:36] <bugnuts> AlexPortable, im not sure myself, i run
debian inside thus its so diffrent i cant help
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1947 [14:03:02] <AlexPortable> inside?
1948 [14:03:04] <bugnuts> .... i just would look at your
manufactures website and ask in #kali
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1952 [14:03:38] <bugnuts> or ##kali (havent got arround to joining
that channel yet never needed the help)
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1955 [14:04:21] <bugnuts> err i ment to say i run debian inside
qubes
1956 [14:04:34] <bugnuts> as in
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1957 [14:04:49] <AlexPortable> a
1958 [14:04:51] <AlexPortable> ah*
1959 [14:05:30] <bugnuts> its a sandbox for the 3 milion lines in
the linux kernel that changes every month... no one can audit it.
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1961 [14:06:45] * bugnuts cant help but wave the qubes flag and requit
as many as i can
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1965 [14:11:53] <bugnuts> dvs, darwin award = people so stupid,
that they do such dumb things, that they remove them selves from the
gene pool, and thus the darwinimum effect of the "strongest
will survive" still aplies
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1968 [14:12:55] <bugnuts> is somewhat apt description.
1969 [14:13:22] <bugnuts> and vast amusement for me atm for my
drunk ass
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1972 [14:14:16] <dvs> bugnuts, I know what the Darwin awards are.
I have five of her books
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1975 [14:15:28] <bugnuts> fair call, gotta do something to combat
the propaganda, that meme might just be savage enough to work
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1977 [14:16:42] <bugnuts> i just dont know what an acutal IS flag
looks like, i know some have been miss apropriated
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1984 [14:18:06] <bugnuts> not all black flags are created equal
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1988 [14:19:12] <TomTomTosch> let's keep it to debian support
in here and do the isis fighting in the appropriate channel.
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1990 [14:19:54] <bugnuts> there is an acutal channel for that?
really? lol!
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1993 [14:20:35] <TomTomTosch> it just was a hint to stop spamming
:P
1994 [14:20:48] <bugnuts> sry lol, you just got my hopes up!
1995 [14:20:59] * bugnuts working in social media
1996 [14:21:50] <bugnuts> i should clarify ON not in
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2018 [14:37:34] <Skyrider> Not exactly a debian Q, but maybe
someone knows.. which encryption starts with $S$?
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2025 [14:44:10] <cruncher> Skyrider, php/md5?
2026 [14:44:33] <cruncher> but yes, it is completely offtopic
2027 [14:46:50] <jelly> Skyrider: none available with glibc
crypt(3), but there's $5$ there. man 3 crypt
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2029 [14:47:51] <jelly> you'll have to install manpages-dev
to get that man page Skyrider
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2038 [14:56:22] <cruncher> Skyrider, if you want the full answer,
check drupal 7
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2060 [15:10:55] <FooClass> hello
2061 [15:11:14] <FooClass> why /etc/profile.d not work for ordinal
users?
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2070 [15:15:05] <themill> FooClass: "ordinal"?
2071 [15:15:18] <FooClass> non root
2072 [15:15:31] <FooClass> in root shell it work
2073 [15:15:35] <themill> in what way does it not work?
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2076 [15:16:06] <FooClass> it just not work, not read
/etc/profile.d
2077 [15:16:13] <themill> what is "it"?
2078 [15:16:20] <FooClass>
replaced-url
2079 [15:16:23] <FooClass> this
2080 [15:17:11] <themill> I'd like to know what you are doing
in debian not someone else in some other distro.
2081 [15:17:11] <FooClass> i don't understand background
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2083 [15:17:39] <FooClass> but it just work in wheezy
2084 [15:17:50] <themill> "it" being what? what are you
actually doing?
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2086 [15:18:32] <FooClass> themill, i start terminal in X, mate
terminal for example
2087 [15:18:47] <themill> the terminal within X won't start a
login shell
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2089 [15:19:34] <FooClass> but it start in wheezy?
2090 [15:19:43] <themill> Your display manager should (although
some don't because they're too busy trying to be
"light")
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2092 [15:20:29] <FooClass> themill, look, i start terminal in X in
wheezy, and it work, all /etc/profile.d here
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2095 [15:21:19] <themill> which display manger in wheezy? (and
which in jessie?)
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2097 [15:21:37] <FooClass> same
2098 [15:21:41] <FooClass> wait
2099 [15:21:43] <FooClass> not
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2101 [15:22:13] <FooClass> mate in jessie, and whole gnome in
wheezy
2102 [15:22:21] <FooClass> it make difference?
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2105 [15:23:00] <FooClass> i try terminal from gnome
2106 [15:23:27] <themill> quite probably; you either need to pick
a display manger that creates a login shell or tell your terminal
emulator to create an interactive login shell each time
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2108 [15:24:07] <FooClass> so i try some check
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2111 [15:25:30] <FooClass> when i do "su - user" then
/etc/profile.d take in account
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2114 [15:26:06] <FooClass> how to make /etc/profile.d take in
account in any way
2115 [15:26:08] <FooClass> ?
2116 [15:26:11] <themill> the - means that a login shell is
created
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2118 [15:26:42] <FooClass> i need /etc/profile.d in non login
shell too
2119 [15:26:55] <FooClass> i want it in any shell
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2121 [15:27:09] <FooClass> why not?
2122 [15:27:23] <TomTomTosch> man bash has a section about
invocation. you might want to read it.
2123 [15:27:42] <FooClass> yeah
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2125 [15:27:51] <FooClass> do not want read about it
2126 [15:27:54] <FooClass> :/
2127 [15:28:17] <FooClass> it wild stuffs
2128 [15:28:44] <themill> Well you have to do something... you
either have to tell your dm to make the entire X session a login
shell or tell your terminal emulator to make each terminal login
shell
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2130 [15:29:02] <themill> Being unwilling to do anything
isn't going to solve the problem
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2134 [15:29:47] <TomTomTosch> /etc/bash.bashrc is probably what
you want to use instead of /rtc/profile
2135 [15:30:26] <FooClass> it run in any way (login/nonlogin)?
2136 [15:30:56] <TomTomTosch> only if it's an interactive
shell that's not a login shell.
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2144 [15:33:21] <FooClass> is there bash file that start in both
mode?
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2148 [15:33:59] <TomTomTosch> i don't think so.
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2152 [15:36:40] <linux-fox> !tell linux-fox about win32diskimager
2153 [15:36:46] <FooClass> and whe thry no /etc/bashrc.d ?
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2157 [15:38:04] <FooClass> sorry for my bad english but all bash
is bizare
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2187 [15:53:55] <jelly> bash doesn't even do what the
INVOCATION section of the manual says it would do when run in
interactive mode.
2188 [15:55:05] <jelly> strace -eopen,stat,stat64 bash <-
connected to a tty, supposed to check for ~/.bash_profile but
doesn't; not even when explicitely given -i; it only reads that
with -l
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2190 [15:55:58] <TomTomTosch> heh, that sucks x)
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2200 [15:59:33] <jelly> judd: bug #675008
2201 [15:59:34] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2206 [16:03:01] <jelly> wonder if that's debian specific bug
(possibly just in the man page) or not
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2208 [16:05:52] <jelly> yeah.
replaced-url
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2211 [16:07:04] <themill> no differences jump out at me
2212 [16:07:40] <themill> (what am I missing, given that this
isn't exactly text that I can throw at diff to spot
differences)
2213 [16:07:50] <jelly> oh, I'm looking at the wrong
paragraph
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2215 [16:09:24] <jelly> it does omit the bit about > So,
typically, your ~/.bash_profile contains the line \n\n if [ -f
~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrc; fi
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2217 [16:11:06] <jelly> adding that seems like it would make a
single place to put stuff for both 1) interactive but non-login and
2) interactive login shells
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2219 [16:11:36] <themill> /etc/skel/.profile already does that
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2222 [16:12:57] <jelly> then that's the answer for FooClass
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2224 [16:13:41] <jelly> "put stuff in /etc/bash.bashrc, or
~/.bashrc"
2225 [16:13:56] <themill> or make it a login shell
2226 [16:14:08] <jelly> that's not what login means!
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2230 [16:14:55] <themill> the dm should be doing that and most do
except for the new ones that are too busy being lightweight to
actually implement the features they are supposed to have
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2232 [16:16:04] <jelly> no idea what a dm does, but my
x-terminal-emulator.desktop does not open a shell with -l
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2236 [16:18:03] <jelly> ok, it's xfce's
/usr/share/xfce4/helpers/debian-x-terminal-emulator.desktop
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2260 [16:40:26] <vahe> hi all Help,not working wifi
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2264 [16:41:10] <vahe> there is no wifi icon I just installed
Debian 8 mate
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2274 [16:44:22] <vahe> there is no wifi icon I just installed
Debian 8 mate ,ifconfig "lo" "eth0"
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2277 [16:44:44] <vahe> not working wifi
2278 [16:45:05] <vahe> bat not see wlan0
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2280 [16:46:19] <TomTomTosch> mate uses nm-applet me thinks, which
can be found in the network-manager-gnome package. what does it say
if you try to run nm-applet?
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2282 [16:47:31] <TomTomTosch> you are also probably missing
firmware. what does lspci -nn | grep -i network say?
2283 [16:47:40] <vahe> TomTomTosch: how to start?
2284 [16:47:54] <TomTomTosch> vahe: type it into a console.
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2287 [16:48:26] <vahe> TomTomTosch: 00:19.0 Ethernet controller
[0200]: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network Connection
[8086:10ea] (rev 05)
2288 [16:48:26] <vahe> 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel
Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 [8086:422b] (rev 35)
2289 [16:48:44] <TomTomTosch> ,pciid [8086:422b]
2290 [16:48:46] <judd> [8086:422b] is 'Centrino Ultimate-N
6300' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules
'iwlwifi', 'ata_generic',
'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also
replaced-url
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2292 [16:49:32] <TomTomTosch> vahe: here is the wiki page
describing how to install the driver you need:
replaced-url
2293 [16:50:06] <vahe> iwlwifi ?
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2297 [16:50:43] <vahe> TomTomTosch: but before that, it was always
wlan0
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2299 [16:51:35] <TomTomTosch> vahe: iwlwifi is the kernel module
you need to use your adapter. wlan0 will be the interface.
2300 [16:51:50] <unborn> :D
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2305 [16:54:39] <vahe> work
2306 [16:54:48] <vahe>
replaced-url
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2308 [16:55:10] <vahe> TomTomTosch: thanks for link
2309 [16:55:12] <vahe> :D
2310 [16:55:21] <vahe> and sorry :D
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2327 [17:09:17] <piercedwater> hello
2328 [17:09:21] <piercedwater> i love debian :)
2329 [17:09:24] <piercedwater> that is all
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2331 [17:10:00] <boubou>
replaced-url
2332 [17:10:12] <boubou> df -ah tell me 11gb inside of /var
2333 [17:10:15] <boubou> where is it ?
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2338 [17:11:03] <markybob> probably /var/cache/apt/archives and
/var/log
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2340 [17:11:26] <markybob> btw a lot of use cant see pastebin.com
2341 [17:11:38] <boubou> can I rm the content of twice dir ?
2342 [17:11:43] <themill> boubou: in files that are large and
deleted but still open; in logs most likely.
2343 [17:12:04] <boubou> how can I get the freespace then ?
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2345 [17:12:29] <themill> boubou: restarting the daemon that has
the log file open
2346 [17:12:36] <boubou> ./var/cache/apt/archives# du -sh *
2347 [17:12:36] <boubou> 0 lock
2348 [17:12:36] <boubou> 4.0K partial
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2351 [17:13:05] <markybob> so probably /var/log as said
2352 [17:13:23] <themill> well, not actually in /var/log but log
files
2353 [17:14:22] <boubou> I restarted the computer ;)
2354 [17:14:35] <themill> that would also close the open log files
for you
2355 [17:14:56] <boubou> yes<
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2357 [17:15:17] <boubou> but how can I know which file was open ?
2358 [17:15:29] <boubou> and used all this space
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2360 [17:17:08] <themill> I can't think of a way of finding
out at this stage; once rebooted, that information isn't really
available
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2368 [17:18:42] <boubou> yes but next time, I will try not reboot
the computer
2369 [17:18:58] <boubou> I would like to learn how to find this
big file whichout reboot
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2380 [17:21:20] <themill> boubou: "lsof | grep deleted"
should show you open but deleted files
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2382 [17:22:29] <boubou> thx ;)
2383 [17:22:34] <boubou> whats a good answer
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2446 [17:55:14] <spacebug^> I'm getting a black screen
(monitor shuts off) when leaving X with "ctrl + alt + F1".
Using NVIDIA GTX 960 with latest 64-bit drivers for linux. Debian
8.4 installed
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2457 [18:04:07] <spacebug^> oh, I hadn't managed to properly
enter "nomodeset" parameter to grub
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2478 [18:19:41] <Kris115> witam
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2481 [18:20:27] <Kris115> jest mi ktoś z Państwa pomóc w
wykonaniu tego zadania
replaced-url
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2483 [18:20:39] <TomTomTosch> !pl
2484 [18:20:39] <dpkg> Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku;
jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl
na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on
irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>.
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2493 [18:23:43] <JyZyXEL> is it possible to run two different
versions of Xorg servers on the same machine?
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2496 [18:25:36] <spacebug^> ehm.. think I have found a proboem
with ecryptfs encrypted home. If I logout from tty2 with my user who
has enctypted home, I can still (sometimes) access the files with
root. "mount" shows ecryptfs still mounted for the user
that loged out. That user has no active sessions
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2499 [18:26:26] <kirkland> spacebug^: ecryptfs doesn't
protect you from your root user; it protects from an offline attack
(ie, someone steals your laptop, grabs your hard drive, and tries to
read your data)
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2506 [18:28:30] <spacebug^> kirkland : ehm.. ecryptfs should
protect from ANY user not logged in, since all files are encrypted
at that state
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2508 [18:29:03] <kirkland> spacebug^: totally agree, as long as
all sessions are ended and the encrypted dir is unmounted
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2512 [18:29:42] <spacebug^> kirkland : yes. And the problem I have
found is that the dir does not get unmonted when the user logs out
from all sessions
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2517 [18:29:56] <kirkland> spacebug^: what version of ecryptfs?
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2524 [18:33:49] <spacebug^> kirkland : 103-5+deb8u1
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2526 [18:34:21] <spacebug^> unless I somehow managed to f***
things up when I migrated the home dir
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2549 [18:44:09] <unborn> heh
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2559 [18:49:17] <spacebug^> nah. Seems like the encrypted home
does not get umounted when loggin out
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2561 [18:49:49] <spacebug^> could be a problem with logout program
insted of ecryptfs maybe?
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2564 [18:50:57] <gynter> Hello, any suggestions about xfce4-mixer
in stretch?
2565 [18:51:13] <markybob> !debian-next
2566 [18:51:13] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
2567 [18:51:21] <spacebug^> ehm.. havery second time i logout it
works
2568 [18:51:40] <gynter> ah, thanks
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2594 [19:08:27] <spacebug^> definitely a bug somewhere :-(
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2597 [19:11:04] <spacebug^> if I run "ecryptfs-umount-home
& logout" it gets unmounted everytime and it works. Should
I contact the developers of ecryptfs? I guess this script should run
everytime I logout but somehow it does not
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2599 [19:11:39] <markybob> just make an alias
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2607 [19:13:28] <spacebug^> well.. I donät know how different
applications logout. Like gnome? KDE? are they all using the logout
program? Should I somehow make logout run this pre loggin out?
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2611 [19:14:30] <spacebug^>
replaced-url
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2613 [19:14:35] <spacebug^> I was not first :)
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2615 [19:15:45] <markybob> yes, each have their own thing.
gnome-session-quit for example
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2617 [19:16:47] <spacebug^> Ok. Well I think I just have to wait
for the bug to get fixed. Thanks
2618 [19:17:33] <markybob> i doubt it will
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2650 [19:28:31] <jmcnaught> spacebug^: did you see this? it has a
systemd user service unit that you could try
2651 [19:28:35] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
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2653 [19:28:37] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2658 [19:30:32] <spacebug^> thanks jmcnaught , I'll look into
that
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2713 [19:49:27] <spacebug^> now I just have to understand how to
install/use that systemd user unit file
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2715 [19:50:30] <jmcnaught> spacebug^: take a look at the man page
systemd.unit to see where user units go. you would enable it with
"systemctl --user enable foo"
2716 [19:50:54] <spacebug^> thanks
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2721 [19:55:40] <spacebug^> many thanks jmcnaught! It works :)
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2729 [20:00:31] <jmcnaught> spacebug^: cheers! you might consider
adding your comments to that bug report
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2731 [20:00:40] <spacebug^> thsnk
2732 [20:00:43] <spacebug^> thanks*
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2773 [20:25:45] <okee> What would be the easiest way to clone a
disk to a new SSD? Apparently the Samsung cloning software
doesn't support linux.
2774 [20:26:06] <towo`> rsync
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2777 [20:26:26] <bazhang> ,v clonezilla
2778 [20:26:27] <judd> Package: clonezilla on amd64 -- jessie:
3.10.11-1; sid: 3.10.11-3; stretch: 3.10.11-3
2779 [20:26:36] <bazhang> what about dd
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2782 [20:27:20] <markybob> definitely not rsync unless you want a
new install and then just copy over old files. clonezilla is easy
and does the job
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2786 [20:28:16] <towo`> i had no problem to transfer my system
from hdd to ssd with rsync
2787 [20:29:05] <bazhang> he wants a clone not a backup
2788 [20:29:24] <okee> bazhang> Which works better or is easier
to use? Rsync? or v clonezilla?
2789 [20:29:43] <markybob> clonezilla if what you're talking
about is a clone and not a backup
2790 [20:29:55] <bazhang> okee, clonezilla is the correct tool,
not rsync
2791 [20:30:13] <okee> bazhang> Thanks. I am strictly doing a
clone.
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2793 [20:31:05] <okee> My primary Debian drive is in class II
failure, and I just installed a Samsung 2 TB SSD. This is the first
SDD i have purchased. Later on in the year I am going to build an
entirely new system, and move the Samsung SSD to the new system.
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2795 [20:31:41] <bazhang> 2 tera ssd?
2796 [20:32:00] <geigerCounter> Is the roundcube package broken?
2797 [20:32:12] <geigerCounter> If not, can I get some help on how
to set it up?
2798 [20:32:52] <markybob> !tell geigerCounter about bat
2799 [20:33:01] <bazhang> ajax based webmail?
2800 [20:33:09] <vlt> okee: For a clone you want to use dd or
ddrescue. rsync is for _files_. You’d have to create a file
system first. Maybe the LABEL or UUID don’t match. Don’t
use ddrescue on a device that is mounted writable.
2801 [20:33:42] <babilen> okee: Also don't forget to resize
the filesystem(s?) after cloning
2802 [20:34:07] <geigerCounter> bazhang: I don't know?
2803 [20:34:17] <geigerCounter> markybob: What is?
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2805 [20:34:31] <babilen> dpkg: bat
2806 [20:34:31] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
2807 [20:34:34] <babilen> geigerCounter: ^^
2808 [20:34:37] <markybob> geigerCounter: the bot just sent you a
private msg
2809 [20:34:48] <vlt> okee: And maybe you don’t want a clone
if you use a “classic” partition alignment that
doesn’t work very well with SSDs.
2810 [20:34:49] <babilen> (with that factoid in there)
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2812 [20:35:47] <okee> vlt> What do you recommend is the
easiest way to migrate the data from one drive to the new SSD? Would
you recmmend Clonezilla? I installed Clonezilla, but having trouble
finding its interface and commands.
2813 [20:35:54] <vlt> okee: In that case you could still create
the new partition layout on the SSD and then use dd(rescue) to clone
the contents of your partition, not the disk.
2814 [20:36:00] <geigerCounter> I don't think it's a
dpkg/aptitude thing.
2815 [20:36:05] <bazhang> roundcube (source: roundcube): skinnable
AJAX based webmail solution for IMAP servers geigerCounter
2816 [20:36:13] <geigerCounter> Yeah, that's the one.
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2818 [20:36:45] <markybob> so this is going to be impossible.
geigerCounter is english not your first language?
2819 [20:36:46] <bazhang> geigerCounter, why that particular
solution
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2821 [20:36:49] <vlt> okee: I don’t know the easiest®
way.
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2824 [20:37:02] <okee> vlt> What do you mean clone the contents
of your partition, not the disk?
2825 [20:37:05] <geigerCounter> I can't get it to work and I
don't know if that's my fault. Trying it from source, it
seemed to work but wouldn't link up with Dovecot, so I tried
doing a guide and installing it officially.
2826 [20:37:23] <vlt> okee: Do you know what a partition table is?
2827 [20:37:25] <bazhang> a guide
2828 [20:37:35] <geigerCounter> bazhang: Sec, I'll get the
link.
2829 [20:37:54] <markybob> i still want info from bat
2830 [20:37:58] <bazhang> geigerCounter, what do you mean
officially
2831 [20:38:08] <okee> vlt> Yes, I know what a partition table
is. Currently I have a bunch of little drivers on here, ranging from
250gb to 350gb. I am looking to clone all of them, and move the data
on to the SDD, in different partitions.
2832 [20:38:13] <markybob> we can't help you without all the
info
2833 [20:38:44] <geigerCounter> bazhang: I install roundcube
through aptitude when I couldn't get it to work from the
tarball that roundcube itself provided.
2834 [20:38:55] <geigerCounter> bazhang: But it's even less
working now.
2835 [20:39:02] <vlt> okee: Do you need to boot your OS from that
new disk later?
2836 [20:39:25] <vlt> okee: Or is it a “data only”
disk?
2837 [20:39:34] <bazhang> geigerCounter, so it was working, but
less working now
2838 [20:39:49] <markybob> "clone" not
"backup" is pretty clear
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2841 [20:40:45] <okee> vlt> No, I need to boot the OS from the
disk, and will throw out my current primary Debian disk, after I get
the disk copied over.
2842 [20:40:54] <geigerCounter> bazhang: No, it wasn't
working, but it's less working now. Before: I was able to get
to the last step of the install (connecting to smtp), Now: Shows a
blank screen with no error in the apache logs
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2846 [20:41:21] <geigerCounter> bazhang:
replaced-url
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2849 [20:41:48] <geigerCounter> bazhang: I can see from the
favicon that it is accessing the roundcube directory correctly, but
then nothing.
2850 [20:42:04] <jmcnaught> geigerCounter: did you check for a
README.Debian file in /usr/share/doc/roundcube (or roundcube-core)?
2851 [20:42:24] <geigerCounter> jmcnaught: No, I hadn't...
Sorry. I'll check it now.
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2853 [20:42:53] <jmcnaught> geigerCounter: those README.Debian
files are always the first place to look
2854 [20:42:58] <vlt> okee: That’s totally possible but
there a a few pitfalls.
2855 [20:43:18] <geigerCounter> Uh... Wait.
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2858 [20:43:30] <geigerCounter> I might be in the wrong channel
then.
2859 [20:43:48] <geigerCounter> Sec, I'm gonna head over to
#ubuntu.
2860 [20:43:51] <bazhang> to read docs?
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2862 [20:44:12] <bazhang> geigerCounter, are you on debian or
ubuntu
2863 [20:44:22] <vlt> okee: In the partition table there’s a
start sector for the partition. You want these sectors aligned to
your SSD’s layout for performance reasons.
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2867 [20:44:26] <markybob> yeah. that's why i asked for bat
2868 [20:44:32] <vlt> okee: Is the old disk already an SSD?
2869 [20:44:32] <markybob> so i could see your sources
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2871 [20:45:00] <okee> vlt> The old disk is not already an SSD;
the old disk is a platter, approximately 9 years old.
2872 [20:45:01] <bazhang> he's leaving out a LOT of info
2873 [20:45:11] <geigerCounter> bazhang: I'm on Ubuntu
server. ._. Sorry for wasting y'alls time.
2874 [20:45:41] <okee> vlt> The new Samsung SSD is the first
SSD I have every owned. Pricy little boogers, but the one I
purchased should make migration to the new computer easier, since
everything is on one drive.
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2876 [20:45:45] <bazhang> are two TB ssd really a thing?
2877 [20:46:26] <okee> bazhang> I got a really good eal on the
2 TB drive, and paid something like 786 for it, with no tax.
Contrary to what Wikipedia says, the Samsung SSDs do support TRIM.
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2881 [20:47:03] <markybob> of course they do, with an updated
kernel. otherwise...you won't be happy
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2883 [20:48:40] <vlt> okee: Before we continue, can you check the
start sector of your first partition? fdisk -l /dev/sda, for
example.
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2885 [20:49:56] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
2886 [20:49:57] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2889 [20:51:05] <jmcnaught> okee: do you have a separate backup?
you should make sure your files are all backed up before attempting
a migration
2890 [20:51:22] <okee> vlt>
replaced-url
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2892 [20:51:38] <okee> jmcnaught> I do have a separate backup,
and backed up all the files to the Centos OS.
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2894 [20:52:00] <jmcnaught> okee: it's not a backup if
it's on a disk inside the computer :)
2895 [20:52:14] <okee> jmcnaught> It is on a different disk.
2896 [20:52:26] <vlt> okee: Is that windows in the first
partition?
2897 [20:53:24] <okee> vlt> Yes, that is windows. Debian boots
first by default. I am not looking to keep a windows partition on
the SSD, but do want to copy all the data from Windows Documents
folder.
2898 [20:54:10] <okee> vlt> I have a windows machine along side
me that runs Win 7, and decided not to keep windows on the same
computer as my linux.
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2900 [20:54:13] <vlt> okee: Your grub boots the OS from sda2?
2901 [20:54:16] <markybob> okee: so now you're not looking to
clone
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2904 [20:55:37] <okee> vlt> I don't think the sda2 is
Debian, and most likely Centos. Let me run some more diagnostics and
post them. There were some mount issues after the last Debian
upgrade that were never resolved. I decided not to run the computer
until the SSD showed up, since there was a failing drive.
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2906 [20:55:53] <jmcnaught> okee: i'm just saying, if
you're going to be moving filesystems around on block devices,
it's easy to make a mistake and accidentally copy over your
"backup drive" if it's still in the computer. you
should consider disconnecting the backup drive, or doing an external
backup first
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2908 [20:56:11] <vlt> okee: Listen, you can do a clone that will
boot as before but it’ll clone the windows system and it might
have performance problems due to the alignment to secotr 63 (instead
of 2048 for example).
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2910 [20:56:42] <vlt> okee: Whut?
2911 [20:56:56] <okee> vlt> I no longer want to keep the
windows system on the computer, and no longer use Win XP, which is
what is on here. I just want to copy the documents folder. I
don't need anything else from Windows.
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2913 [20:57:17] <vlt> okee: What do you expect to happen after you
swap the disks and boot your computer the first time?
2914 [20:57:25] <markybob> reinstall. copy from backup.
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2917 [20:58:16] <vlt> okee: You said you wanted a clone first, now
it’s a completely new system o_O
2918 [20:58:43] <okee> vlt> I shouldn't have said clone. I
don't need windows on here.
2919 [20:59:43] <vlt> okee: I think the easiest solution is to
install a fresh Debian to your new SSD and later use rsync to copy
the old files from the different old disks and partitions.
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2921 [21:00:24] <okee> vlt> That is what I was thinking as
well. I also have Centos on here, and would like to continue using a
dual boot, instead of running one in virtualization.
2922 [21:01:15] <markybob> jesus. what else is going to change in
this story.
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2925 [21:02:25] <vlt> :-D
2926 [21:02:48] <okee> vlt> I have confirmed that sda2 is
currently Centos.
2927 [21:04:08] <vlt> okee: That old multiboot setup might work
now but it’s going to be a mess trying to “clone”
it. Do what markybob suggested.
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ssd on here. Any thoughts?
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3081 [22:23:32] <n2UYBTX> anyone know - burned 64bit live ISO on a
DVD drive (-R) and also on USB drive.. still cant install.. did this
2-3 times, ISO is not corrupted, neither is the DVD or USB. But
still get error - to verify CDROM. It goes to 22-23% and then give
error, every time.. also checked that none of the files are
truncated to 64 chars (since doing this from WIn7).. what could be
the problem? couldnt find anything after googling..
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3086 [22:25:05] <TomTomTosch> n2UYBTX: the live iso does not work
on UEFI systems. if you want to install debian you probably want to
use netinst
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3088 [22:25:34] <n2UYBTX> no solution other than netinst?
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3091 [22:26:01] <TomTomTosch> is your system UEFI ?
3092 [22:27:13] <n2UYBTX> yes
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3095 [22:28:13] <TomTomTosch> as i said, the live iso does not
support that. set your bios to legacy and if that's not
possible, use the regular installer.
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3099 [22:29:18] <jmcnaught> n2UYBTX: if the error keeps happening
when you try an installer image, tell us the error
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3128 [22:44:59] <mikipomp> ciao
3129 [22:45:25] <mikipomp> !list
3130 [22:45:25] <dpkg> mikipomp: È possibile scaricare un
sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a
replaced-url
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3133 [22:46:13] <mikipomp> il link non funziona
3134 [22:46:34] <hesco> I have DebIan networking issues to sort
out, wondering if this is the right place.
3135 [22:46:42] <AfroThundr> join #debian-next
3136 [22:46:47] <jmcnaught> mikipomp:
replaced-url
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3139 [22:47:18] <AfroThundr> oops
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3141 [22:47:35] <hesco> AfroThundr: was that intended for me?
3142 [22:47:47] <AfroThundr> nah, I was missing a /
3143 [22:48:03] <jmcnaught> hesco: yes this is a Debian support
channel
3144 [22:48:14] <AfroThundr> What networking issues are you having
exactly?
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3147 [22:49:10] <hesco> AfroThundr: configuring my network in a
debian environment. /etc/network/interfaces related, I believe.
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3149 [22:49:30] <okee> Does anyone have a recommendation for a
free cloud storage service? I am looking for something to back up
the entire drive to.
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3153 [22:49:59] <okee> Google Drive might work, but I have some
concerns on how private it is.
3154 [22:50:00] <err404> okee, owncloud?
3155 [22:50:03] <AfroThundr> hesco: Well, tell us more about it,
maybe we can get it solved.
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3157 [22:50:29] <digdilem> okee, gdrive. note that all the major
providers cannot be considered private unless you encrypt the data
yourself before squirting up there
3158 [22:50:55] <hesco>
replaced-url
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3162 [22:51:23] <fiveflowerzz> Hi!
3163 [22:51:25] <hesco> eth1 is working, eth0 fails, even when I
use ip directly to assign the IPs to the interface.
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3165 [22:51:40] <hesco> And as eth0 fails to work, so does eth0:0
3166 [22:51:57] <fiveflowerzz> Is there a one-line command to
backup a SD card image (maybe with dd?) and zip it directly ?
3167 [22:52:05] <okee> err404> How many free GB does owncloud
offer?
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3169 [22:53:09] <hesco> fiveflowerzz: it might be a long one liner
depending on whether your hotplug works to reliably mount your
device.
3170 [22:53:31] <hesco> there is setup involved in an operation
like that.
3171 [22:53:52] <digdilem> okee, you host owncloud yourself...
3172 [22:54:28] <okee> digdilem> At this time I am just looking
for a place to park a few drives until the migration to the SSD is
complete.
3173 [22:54:36] <hesco> So, AfroThundr: any thoughts on that
interfaces file?
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3177 [22:55:21] <okee> Does Google Drive allow you to upload
entire folders?
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3179 [22:55:43] <AfroThundr> hesco: well, I noticed a typo in line
20, you forgot an octet
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3184 [22:57:32] <AfroThundr> hesco: also, how exactly is eth0
failing? does it fail to come up, or does it not take the address?
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3186 [22:58:10] <jmcnaught> okee: how many GB are you looking to
back up. If the answer is "lots" than even with fast
internet it could be quite time consuming
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3189 [22:59:18] <okee> jmcnaught> I am looking to back up about
150gb.
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3193 [23:00:55] <jmcnaught> okee: and how fast is your upload
speed?
3194 [23:01:06] <hesco> AfroThundr: I have been unable to route
from another host to the eth0 IP, and have only had access through
the eth1 device.
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3197 [23:01:29] <okee> jmcanught> DSL, but pretty slow.
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3202 [23:02:31] <jmcnaught> okee: if it's typical DSL with
around 0.8 Mbps to 1 Mbps, it will take several days possibly weeks
3203 [23:02:35] <hesco> but I just had a traceroute complete and
now seem to be able to get my puppet server responding at 8140.
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3205 [23:03:18] <okee> jmcnaught> It might be more practical to
just acquire a list of programs installed, and reinstall them after
installing Debian to the new SSD.
3206 [23:03:36] <hesco> apparently it took time for a cache to
expire since my manual `ip` commands to tear down, then rebuild the
eth0 interface.
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3208 [23:03:45] <AfroThundr> hesco: so other hosts are unable to
contact this box on eth0, have you been able to reach other hosts
from that network?
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3210 [23:03:54] <okee> I am going to log off for a bit, and check
a couple of Debian installation disks, to see if they are live CD,
or full installs.
3211 [23:03:58] <jmcnaught> okee: i never bother backup up
programs, just my files
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3214 [23:04:22] <hesco> every other host except for the one which
awaits manual intervention on the next trip to the DC.
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3218 [23:04:58] <TomTomTosch> yeah, 150GB with 1Mbps would take 14
days.
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3221 [23:05:57] <AfroThundr> hesco: so outbound traffic works but
not inbound. Perhaps the firewall might be culprit here.
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3224 [23:07:27] <hesco> No, it is now working, but not due to the
interfaces file, but due to this:
3225 [23:07:29] <hesco>
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3231 [23:08:52] <hesco> that seems to have braught up the
interface, but seemed to require patience for a cache expiration or
something to become effective, because while my initial tests
failed, subsequent tests passed.
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3237 [23:09:47] <AfroThundr> hesco: hmm, I haven't
experimented with subinterfaces much, but wouldn't eth0:0 be
dependent on eth0? Maybe something to do with the order they're
brought up/down?
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3239 [23:10:19] <hesco> but however it is in my interfaces file,
while I am grateful I get eth1 and some private network access, I
host many services on this bare-metal host with that IP, and need to
preserve access to those services.
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3243 [23:11:09] <hesco> on restart, I guess is my concern.
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3245 [23:12:46] <AfroThundr> hesco: well if you can isolate which
of those specifically caused the fix, you could add it to your
pre-up (or post-up) commands in /etc/network/interfaces
3246 [23:12:52] <hesco> guess I will capture the manual
work-around as a script and have it ready for next time, was hoping
for guidance on how my interfaces file might comply with the
expectations for doing things the debian way.
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3248 [23:13:06] <AfroThundr> hesco: or dump em all into a script
and add that
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3252 [23:14:02] <AfroThundr> hesco: ^ as you've said, you can
add those to a script and call it when eth0 comes up
3253 [23:14:22] <AfroThundr> hesco: that should work until you can
sort out what's causing this to begin with...
3254 [23:14:31] <djp_> i have always stuck to using aptitude to
install packages. contemplating an upgrade. my system runs an old
squeeze install. however, debian docs seem to suggest using apt-get
over aptitude when upgrading. would this be an issue, considering
i've always stuck to using aptitude in the past?
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3258 [23:15:17] <jmcnaught> djp_: you should be fine using apt-get
for the upgrade, just make sure to follow the instructions in the
release notes
3259 [23:15:44] <hesco> when I first posted here, that was my
concern, being able to even route to the publicly accessible IP in
the DNS zone files.
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3262 [23:16:05] <djp_> jmcnaught: sure will. thanks. so just use
apt-get for the upgrade, then revert back to aptitude?
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3264 [23:16:30] <jmcnaught> djp_: lots of people switch between
aptitude, apt-get, and apt depending on the task
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3266 [23:16:48] <hesco> guess I will study up on post-up commands
and get back to the next step.
3267 [23:17:06] <djp_> jmcnaught: ah, right. thanks. i'll
give it a go... thanks again.
3268 [23:17:07] <hesco> thanks for the help.
3269 [23:17:12] <AfroThundr> hesco: sorry I'm not much help.
Hope that works thought.
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3271 [23:17:58] <hesco> it gives me an idea of how to make my work
around survive the next restart, thanks!
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3273 [23:18:14] <AfroThundr> hesco: no problem
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3307 [23:32:10] <Delf> Can't install
"pepperflashplugin-nonfree" :( It says: ERROR: failed to
retrieve status information from google
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3315 [23:37:40] <Delf> No key available for key-id?
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3324 [23:42:01] <hesco> I am writing a bash function called
recycle_ip_on_device() and wonder if there is any convenient way in
a DebIan environment to query one's own tty to see if my
connection to it routes over an interface I am using to invoke the
script.
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3330 [23:43:06] <hesco> I'd hate to see things left in an
incomplete step because deleting an IP from a device terminated the
execution half way through the process.
3331 [23:46:56] <hesco> so I see that my env includes:
SSH_CONNECTION, with the IP's of the two end points in the
connection. Guess that is a never mind.
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3345 [23:54:51] <jsas> how to start X (with Xfce4) with X option
-bs (no backing store)?
3346 [23:55:04] <jsas> one time, or permanently set this option or
anything
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