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3[00:03:39] <unborn> kronoks: icedove is in repos as proper
replacement of thunderbird
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5[00:03:51] <unborn> I had no issue with efi
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9[00:05:44] <darkblue_b> can someone walk me through debsign ?
I am working with a DD and I have two packages ready to upload
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11[00:06:02] <kronoks> unborn: debian recently decided to bring
back firefox and thunderbird, forgetting the idiotic fued of the
past. are you aware of this? this is what my question pertains to.
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13[00:07:10] <mutante> yea, hehe, that was such a nice
surprise.. apt-get upgrade and baaam.. surprise Firefox
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14[00:07:18] <mutante> after 10 years :)
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15[00:07:45] <unborn> kronoks: thunderbird? where? I dont have
that in my repos
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18[00:08:45] <unborn> kronoks: icedove and ice-weasel are
basically same code with changed branding.. are you aware of this?
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19[00:08:53] * awwal Wonders if renaming iceweasel firefox have any
practical reasons...
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20[00:09:28] <darkblue_b> brand-awareness is a Very Big Deal...
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21[00:09:53] <darkblue_b> gpg setup help for debsign, anyone ?
thx
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26[00:10:43] <kronoks> unborn: thunderbird is not yet in the
repos. it will be soon. they are working on it. just as firefox came
back. the question was when.
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28[00:11:13] <unborn> kronoks: they are both great peaces I
like that news :)
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30[00:11:19] <kronoks> unborn: they are not
"basically" the same. firefox displays characters
correctly when forcing droid sans and other non-uniform fonts, while
iceweasel dos not.
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31[00:11:41] <kronoks> that debacle was fixed, however. not,
it's time for the e-mail client.
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33[00:11:56] <kronoks> hadouken, shinku tetsu-puuken.
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34[00:12:05] <kronoks> >:o
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35[00:12:20] <jmcnaught> kronoks:
replaced-url
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36[00:12:29] <unborn> iceweasel works great for me.. I was very
lucky that I switched to debian from ubuntu
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37[00:12:43] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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42[00:14:30] <jmcnaught> darkblue_b: if you're working on
a package for inclusion in Debian you could ask for help on
#debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net
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43[00:14:47] <darkblue_b> hmm its a side project
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46[00:15:28] <darkblue_b> it is REALLY a lot of work to make
this, and we have a deadline for our debian-based system
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49[00:15:47] <darkblue_b> its been more than four hours of
solid work with the DD and my gf is looking at me mean
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50[00:16:08] <Loeb> darkblue_b, one word. Hitaci.
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52[00:16:15] <Loeb> hitachi*
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60[00:18:45] <darkblue_b>
replaced-url
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65[00:20:00] <darkblue_b> or, more seriously,
replaced-url
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68[00:20:52] <neilthereildeil> does debian make and changes to
the structure of /usr/src/linux directory?
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70[00:21:53] <neilthereildeil> or is this the same one
installed by "make headers_install" in vanilla kernel?
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73[00:22:18] <jmcnaught> darkblue_b: is this for Debian, or
Ubuntu? Also if this is not for uploading to the Debian archives,
then you might not need dput
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75[00:22:52] <darkblue_b> I apologize profusely for any
non-Debian talk, but honestly, I just need to get gpg setup
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76[00:23:00] <darkblue_b> another channel suggestion is also
welcome
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77[00:23:30] <jmcnaught> darkblue_b: you should be asking in
#ubuntu if you're doing this on Ubuntu. #debian is only for
Debian, not for derivatives
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78[00:23:33] <darkblue_b> our DD said to do this, I am trying
to do that
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81[00:23:51] <darkblue_b> I am not going to #ubuntu thx
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83[00:24:12] <darkblue_b> can we skip this cul-de-sac ?
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84[00:24:46] <kronoks> ubuntu chat is like teenagers trying to
solve a problem
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85[00:26:05] * unborn ubuntu channel is horrible and actually
helpless been there 3 times past 4 years.. no help only arrogant
replies.. google provide better help then ubuntus channel
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86[00:26:12] <jmcnaught> still, coming here for Ubuntu help is
off-topic. darkblue_b you may want to read the New Maintainers Guide
for an overview of Debian packaging, and/or check out reprepro for
hosting your local repository
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88[00:26:42] <darkblue_b> jmcnaught: you are mis-characterizing
the situation, and I am supplying specific responses
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90[00:27:19] <kronoks> darkblue_b: try the arch wiki. they are
the most competent linux community.
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91[00:27:30] <unborn> darkblue_b: is that for ubuntu or debian?
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92[00:27:34] <darkblue_b> kronoks: ok thx
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93[00:28:21] <darkblue_b> unborn: our debian developer just
walked me throuch about four hours of building two packages with
some dependancy changes..
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94[00:28:56] <darkblue_b> I want to send this work somewhere..
is it going directly to a Debian resource somewhere, no
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95[00:29:10] <unborn> darkblue_b: cool but is that for ubuntu
or debian?
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96[00:29:32] <darkblue_b> if this is entertainment for you,
sorry
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97[00:29:38] <kronoks> lol
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98[00:29:41] <kronoks> it is for me.
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99[00:29:48] <unborn> darkblue_b: if for ubuntu then there is
some wikis right here:
replaced-url
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100[00:29:52] <mutante> this repeats itself all day
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101[00:30:32] <kronoks> best solution: give up computers and
computing devices. become a free human again. exit the matrix.
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102[00:30:49] <darkblue_b> ok - so this is entertainment...
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103[00:30:56] <unborn> mutante: yeah I am actually fed up with
this.. its usually like this I need help with this but they never
tell you what distro they are on or what version they need to sort
and why.. even if you ask them couple of times..
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104[00:31:04] <mutante> why does everybody insist in using
ubuntu
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105[00:31:28] <kronoks> ubuntu is the easiest and most uniform
to use.
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106[00:31:39] <mutante> "easiest" but then there is no
support, right
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107[00:31:51] <kronoks> i said easiest. not simplest, or best,
etc.
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108[00:31:57] <jmcnaught> let's keep it on the topic of
Debian tech support please
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109[00:32:08] <kronoks> there is some basic support in the IRC
channel and online.
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110[00:32:16] <unborn> yeah debian
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112[00:32:26] <kronoks> ubuntu is a glorified debian, frozen in
point in time.
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114[00:32:44] <darkblue_b> ugh
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115[00:33:00] <Loeb> Anyone here familiar with kvm? Channel is
dead
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116[00:33:33] <darkblue_b> a more nuanced treatment of this
situation is lost here apparently
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117[00:33:50] <Loeb> darkblue_b, are you expecting quality
conversation in irc?
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118[00:34:02] <jmcnaught> Loeb: if you're using libvirt
there's a #virt on irc.oftc.net you could try. some people
using libvirt here too.
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119[00:34:16] <unborn> Loeb: here? always
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120[00:34:22] <Loeb> I'm honestly not even sure if I'm
using libvirt or not
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122[00:34:33] <Loeb> Right now I'm still trying to bind my
stuff to vfio-pci
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125[00:34:50] <darkblue_b> the gpg signing is Debian rules.. I
just put massive effort into this very tedious endeaver, with the
guidance of an unbelievably hard-working and somewhat difficult DD
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126[00:34:53] <Loeb> The hdmi audio bit of my GPU is hanging the
terminal when I try to unbind it
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128[00:35:12] <jmcnaught> darkblue_b: i suggested looking at the
NMG and reprepro. from your paste it looks like you're trying
to push to a PPA which is a feature not commonly used in Debian, so
it would be better for you to ask in the correct channel.
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129[00:35:20] <darkblue_b> your Debian project will benefit
directly, because there is a direct equivalent in Debian - direct
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130[00:35:25] <Loeb> Every time you say DD I keep imagining
you're running dd the command
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131[00:36:02] <darkblue_b> its an easy out to just call
"ubuntu" and "go away:" and you do yourself a
disservice in this case
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134[00:36:19] <jmcnaught> Loeb: are you running qemu from the
command line? libvirt is worth a try, it's a pretty nice front
end for managing hypervisors
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135[00:36:20] <kronoks> Loeb: what would happen if, as root, you
issued: "dd bs=40M if=/tmp of=/ ; sync
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136[00:36:34] <jmcnaught> !tell darkblue_b about based on debian
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137[00:36:39] <Loeb> kronoks, sounds like a fancy way to rm -rf
/
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138[00:36:56] <Loeb> jmcnaught, I'm not even at the point
where I'm starting the VM yet
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140[00:36:59] <teraflops> darkblue_b: of course it is, also
it's legit, and people get pissed everytime we shout it at them
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141[00:37:01] <kronoks> who will try it out
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143[00:37:07] <kronoks> maybe test it on someone in #ubuntu
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144[00:37:14] <kronoks> mwahahah!
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145[00:37:15] <jmcnaught> kronoks: please don't suggest
destructive commands on IRC
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146[00:37:18] <Loeb> I keep getting errors related to my HDMI
driver not being on the vfio-pci driver
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148[00:37:31] <jmcnaught> Loeb: can you make a paste of the
command and error?
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150[00:37:43] <kronoks> have a sense of humanity.
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151[00:37:54] <Loeb> Which error, the one when I try to start
qemu or the one when I try to unbind?
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152[00:38:09] <Loeb> The latter has no error, it hangs the
terminal.
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153[00:38:12] <unborn> darkblue_b: I asked you twice what system
you running - you came back to me with some entertainment crap. How
can anyone help you with your gpg setup if you not put out problem
properly
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154[00:38:15] <unborn> ?
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155[00:38:26] <jmcnaught> kronoks: often there are new users
here who could think a command was suggested for them, and they will
execute it without knowing what it means. Suggesting destructive
commands even as a joke isn't funny, and will get you banned.
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160[00:39:01] <jmcnaught> Loeb: generally provide as much info
as you can
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161[00:39:37] <Loeb> Can't copypaste, IRC not running on
that computer as it gets rebooted a lot during this process
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162[00:39:38] <kronoks> jmcnaught: obviously. consider whether
we doing them a disservice by protecting people from their own
ignorance, robbing them of a valuable learning experience.
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163[00:40:04] <kronoks> good day, gentlemen.
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165[00:40:33] <Loeb> the unbind command is "Echo
0000:02:00.1 >
/sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:02:00.1/driver/unbind" as root. Not
sudo, but actually root.
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166[00:40:52] <Loeb> If I do this with 0000:02:00.0, it works.
Rebinding with vfio-pci does as well.
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167[00:41:11] <Loeb> .0 is the GPU, .1 is the audio part for
audio via HDMI. Hardware device in question is a GTX 950
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172[00:42:45] <Loeb> There is an XML file somehwere for qemu
that supposedly has "managed=yes" in it somewhere, and
that is what is requiring the HDMI drivers to be enabled...
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173[00:43:04] <Loeb> This might be related to libvirt, guess
I'll go find that channel
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177[00:44:56] <jch> Hi.
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178[00:45:14] <jch> on amd64, how do I find out what packages
have installed things into my initramfs?
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179[00:45:16] <jmcnaught> Loeb: the XML is probably a libvirt
domain.
replaced-url
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182[00:46:02] <putridp> Is there a way to stop atp from clearing
the terminal screen when it finishes, so its output remains
viewable?
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183[00:46:03] <Loeb> I'm not sure what the name of the VM
is as I haven't successfully launched the VM yet... I think.
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184[00:46:08] <putridp> s/atp/apt
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187[00:47:02] <jmcnaught> Loeb: "virsh list --all"
(for virsh you might also need to tell it the connection name with
"--connect qemu:///system", check the man page for details
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191[00:47:42] <jmcnaught> putridp: it doesn't clear the
screen for me. What command does this?
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194[00:48:41] <putridp> jmcnaught: $sudo apt install
<package>
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195[00:49:04] <Loeb> jmcnaught, doesn't return anything
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204[00:51:31] <jmcnaught> Loeb: libvirt isn't involved if
you're launching the VM with qemu on the command line, still
not sure if that's what you're doing
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205[00:51:39] <Loeb> That is
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207[00:52:07] <jmcnaught> putridp: do apt-get and aptitude do
this? which version of Debian is this?
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213[00:53:40] <putridp> jmcnaught: no, apt-get and aptitude work
as usual. I'm using raspbian jessie.
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214[00:54:47] <jmcnaught> putridp: this could be something
introduced by raspbian, which is supported in #raspbian
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217[00:55:26] <putridp> jmcnaught: Thank you. It's helpful
to know it's not expected behaviour
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218[00:55:39] <unborn> :D
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238[01:02:49] <Loeb> So obvious answer, I need to get
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239[01:02:58] <Loeb> If that is such a thing
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240[01:03:15] <Loeb> (it has shortcuts/files/whatever for
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267[01:15:51] <jch> on amd64, how do I find out what packages
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284[01:27:31] <controll> i am using debian 8 with KDE, i am
trying to install gnome and i get this:
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285[01:27:44] <controll> root@pc:~# apt-get install gnome
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286[01:27:44] <controll> Package gnome is not available, but is
referred to by another package.
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287[01:28:00] <controll> any ideas?
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289[01:28:19] <somiaj> controll: sounds like you don't have
your internet sources set up
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290[01:28:22] <somiaj> !jessie sources.list
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291[01:28:22] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb
replaced-url
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292[01:28:34] <somiaj> controll: modify your
/etc/apt/sources.list to include full internet sources
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294[01:28:53] <controll> ok, thanks, i will check this
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300[01:32:22] <controll> i already have this 3 lines in my
sources list
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307[01:33:19] <somiaj> controll: run apt-get update
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309[01:34:19] <controll> omg
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310[01:34:25] <controll> fixed!
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311[01:34:35] <controll> i can belive that this was the solution
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313[01:34:45] <somiaj> you have to update the database after you
make changes to your sourcse.list
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314[01:34:45] <controll> i feel so dumb
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316[01:34:49] <controll> thanks!
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317[01:34:52] <somiaj> controll: it is easy to overlook.
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321[01:35:42] <slystone> Ohai!
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324[01:35:53] <slystone> I need a little help.
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326[01:36:10] * simonlnu doesn't feel dumb anymore, he just
laughs at his mistakes
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327[01:36:12] <somiaj> please ask your question slystone
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328[01:36:23] <simonlnu> just ask, it's easier
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329[01:36:27] <slystone> I'm using Debian with an Olinuxino
(a a 4Go card).
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331[01:36:52] <slystone> I need to make some space (root is
full).
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332[01:37:04] <slystone> I've deleted some stuff, but
it's still not enough.
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335[01:37:13] <Loeb> how do I remove a device from
"/sys/kernel/iommu_groups/18/devices/" ?
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336[01:37:18] <slystone> What more could I do?
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337[01:37:30] <somiaj> slystone: try this, apt-get clean (this
will remove all the downlaoded .deb files that are kept as an
archive)
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338[01:37:35] <somiaj> slystone: does that clean up some space?
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339[01:37:36] <simonlnu> apt storage full? (apt-get autoclean or
clean)
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343[01:38:05] <somiaj> note if you want that archive, you can
copy /var/cache/apt/archive/foo.deb to some other location
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345[01:38:21] <neilthereildeil> hey guys
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346[01:38:36] <neilthereildeil> i am trying to install
libgnutls-dev on debian, but am getting an error
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348[01:38:48] <slystone> Furthermore, I got rid of xserver-xorg
and stuff, but there still remain some graphical interfaces (had to
manually get rid of lightdm, openbox, etc.).
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349[01:38:48] <neilthereildeil> libgnutls-dev : Depends:
libgnutls-openssl27 (= 2.12.20-8+deb7u5) but 3.3.8-6+deb8u3 is to be
installed
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350[01:38:48] <neilthereildeil> Depends: libgcrypt11-dev (>=
1.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
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351[01:38:55] <neilthereildeil> any ideas how to solve this?
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353[01:39:09] <somiaj> neilthereildeil: why are you mixing
wheezy and jessie sources/packages?
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354[01:39:21] <slystone> somiaj: already done (and autoclean and
autoremove).
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356[01:39:27] <simonlnu> asking for trouble
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358[01:39:35] <neilthereildeil> somiaj: am i? how do you know?
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359[01:39:50] <simonlnu> he reads minds
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360[01:39:52] <somiaj> slystone: then you'll have to
manaully track down what is using the space, or maybe you just need
more space in root
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362[01:40:03] <slystone> somiaj: /dev/root 3.7G 3.6G 0 100% /
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364[01:40:22] <slystone> That's why I'm here. I
don't want to break stuff.
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365[01:40:43] <somiaj> neilthereildeil: the versions that are
pasted, the +deb7u5 are security updates for wheezy, while the
deb8u3 are security updtes for jessie. Somehow you have a mix
between jessie packages and wheezy packages on your system.
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366[01:40:48] <slystone> Well, sometimes breaking stuff is good
to learn, but I'd rather avoid mistakes.
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367[01:40:50] <simonlnu> slystone: not a lot of room for a linux
distro. is that an embedded device?
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368[01:40:53] <somiaj> neilthereildeil: care to share the output
of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net
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370[01:41:14] <slystone> simonlnu: it runs on an Olinuxino A20.
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372[01:41:26] <somiaj> slystone: well du /log (is it the logs
taking up space), what sort of software do you have installed?
deskops/databases/etc can eat up a lot of that space fairly quickly.
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373[01:41:33] <simonlnu> slystone: a raspi?
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374[01:42:09] <slystone> simonlnu: no, Olinuxino A20 (but some
stuff running on a raspi can actually run on that board).
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375[01:42:16] <somiaj> slystone: have you installed any local
software in /usr/local or /otp (That is outside of debian)?
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378[01:43:06] <slystone> My setup is very light: weechat,
rtorrent, mysecureshell, lighttpd…
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379[01:43:11] <neilthereildeil> somiaj:
replaced-url
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380[01:43:12] <somiaj> slystone: arg, 'du /var'
basically /var unless you install local software will be one of the
only places that will take up space that is data used by debian
packages but not the software itself. Is a lot of your space being
used in /var/log
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382[01:43:47] <somiaj> slystone: rtorrent could take up a lot of
space with all of the files it shares/downloads. That is a place to
check too
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383[01:44:27] <slystone> The files downloaded went to an
external disk.
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384[01:44:36] <somiaj> neilthereildeil: see that output of you
have both wheezy and jessie packages installed. This mix has caused
a conflict on your system making it hard for apt to figure how to
isntall things. In essence mixxing wheezy/jessie packages is why
things are not installing nicely.
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385[01:44:50] <slystone> Should I paste the return of 'du
/var'?
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386[01:44:51] <somiaj> slystone: well check that du /var
command, does /var seem to be taking up a lot of space?
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387[01:45:07] <somiaj> slystone: just the total it takes, du -h
/var if you want it more human readable than just bytes
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388[01:45:19] <slystone> ok :)
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390[01:46:41] <Loeb> how do I blacklist a driver on boot?
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391[01:46:54] <Loeb> I read about it earlier but I can't
find it now. I know I already have some blacklisted for the nonfree
nvidia drivers
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392[01:47:00] <slystone> somiaj:
replaced-url
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393[01:47:06] <neilthereildeil> somiaj: i think i needed
packages from both because this is a dev environment
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394[01:47:07] <Loeb> just need to try adding the audio drivers
to see if it helps me rebind the HDMI audio
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395[01:47:15] <neilthereildeil> somiaj: do you know how to fix
this?
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396[01:47:57] <slystone> Total: 290M
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398[01:48:22] <somiaj> slystone: only 270M being used, not too
bad. nothing to bad there
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400[01:48:39] <neilthereildeil> somiaj: my main goal is just to
install libgnutls
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401[01:49:09] <neilthereildeil> the package name is
libgnutls-dev. maybe theres some other way to install?
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402[01:49:24] <somiaj> neilthereildeil: My advise is don't
mix, and fix your mixing issues and then you won't have issues
like this. Otherwise you are going to have to manually track down
any of the conflicts and fix them. Mixing jessie and wheezy will
cause issues like this.
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403[01:49:29] <somiaj> neilthereildeil: we don't support
mixing here
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404[01:49:31] <somiaj> !don't break debian
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405[01:49:31] <dpkg> [dont break debian]
replaced-url
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406[01:49:31] <slystone> somiaj: I wanted to upgrade to stretch.
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407[01:49:39] <slystone> Not enough space. =)
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408[01:50:00] <somiaj> slystone: it could just be the software
you have installed is more than the space you have given.
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409[01:50:05] <neilthereildeil> somiaj: i did that because
someone here told me to add the other sources
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410[01:50:16] <neilthereildeil> this is a requirement because i
needed an older version of some other libraries
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411[01:50:29] <slystone> Nothing is upgrade yet, so I doubt it.
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412[01:50:30] <somiaj> slystone: you can look at dpkg -l, and
see if there are packages you don't need and remove them.
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413[01:50:47] <neilthereildeil> i needed those older versions
because some code depended on those versions
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414[01:50:58] <somiaj> neilthereildeil: then you should jsut be
running wheezy.
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415[01:51:33] <slystone> somiaj: well, I'm going to try
that, cheers!
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416[01:51:33] <somiaj> neilthereildeil: Sorry you got bad
advise, we usually try to keep people from suggesting you mix binary
packages from debian releases, but in this case the fix is manually
tracking down the conflict and fixing it.
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417[01:51:37] <neilthereildeil> but everyone here would tell me
wheezy is old and install jessie :)
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418[01:52:04] <somiaj> neilthereildeil: I wouldn't. wheezy
is fully supported by wheezy-lts (for non-desktop systems) and is
just fine to use
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419[01:52:07] <somiaj> !wheezy-lts
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420[01:52:07] <dpkg> Security support for Debian 7
"Wheezy" from the Debian Security Team ended on
2016-04-25. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures receive
additional long term support (LTS) via <wheezy/updates> until
2018-05-31. See
replaced-url
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421[01:52:09] <neilthereildeil> somiaj: sorry about the
difficulty
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422[01:52:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> neilthereildeil, they even call
it oldstable
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425[01:52:46] <Eduard_Munteanu> While stable is rather old-ish
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426[01:53:18] <neilthereildeil> any way to help me get this
package installed? ill try to avoid doing this again!
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428[01:53:46] <somiaj> neilthereildeil: The issue is you are in
a state that doesn't have an easy solution. So i'm just
trying to give some standard debian advise. As I said for your
situation you will have to track down any depends conflict you have
(the output you gave gave one conflcit) and try to manually fix it
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429[01:54:07] <somiaj> neilthereildeil: it could be fixable, it
could be not fixable. But there is no easy solution (that i know of)
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430[01:54:14] <neilthereildeil> somiaj: could you please help
with that?
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432[01:55:06] <somiaj> no, because it could be hours and hours
of tracking down conflicts. I would suggest with that install you
fully dist-upgrade to jessie, remove wheezy alltogether. Then create
another wheezy install for your older stuff (or a wheezy chroot)
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435[01:55:23] <somiaj> or a wheezy vm
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437[01:55:35] <neilthereildeil> that would take a couple weeks
cuz of my dev environment
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444[01:59:20] <Loeb> <Loeb> Yeah I think I have some kind
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445[01:59:21] <Loeb> <Loeb> I managed to get it bound to
vfio-pci by blacklisting the hda_intel_audio or whatever that driver
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446[01:59:21] <Loeb> <Loeb> but when I try to start the VM
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447[02:00:01] <Loeb> So, I need to find a way to start kvm
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448[02:00:11] <neilthereildeil> can anyone else please help me
install gnutls?
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451[02:00:55] <somiaj> slystone: there are some core x11
packages that are very small and just common libs that packages can
link against that could be used with x11 or without
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452[02:01:08] <somiaj> slystone: but for the most part yes, just
realize some of the core ones (which aren't that big) may be
needed
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454[02:02:24] <slystone> somiaj: how could I make sure to remove
any graphical frontend without breaking stuff (for a command line
usage)?
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455[02:03:02] <somiaj> slystone: easy, if you try to remove a
package, and it removes packages you depend on, then you'll
know
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457[02:03:23] <somiaj> slystone: i.e. apt-get remove packagename
(it will list all other packages it wants to remove, check that list
first)
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459[02:04:02] <slystone> Well, i tried to remove all
xserver-xorg packages, but for a reason I can't fathom, the
rest did not follow. è_é
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461[02:05:01] <slystone> Maybe I should try removing x11-common
and x11-utils? =)
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462[02:05:06] <somiaj> slystone: only packages that depend on a
package would get removed
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463[02:05:19] <somiaj> slystone: x11-common I think is one of
the core ones I was talking about, but x11-utils I don't hthink
you'll need
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464[02:05:39] <slystone> You don't think or you're
sure? =)
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466[02:06:04] <somiaj> slystone: if any package you needs
depends on one of those packges, you'll see it in the list of
the packages you want to remove
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467[02:06:09] <slystone> (I'm a pain, but I've learnt
to double check =))
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468[02:06:12] <somiaj> slystone: and not if you happen to remove
a bit to much, you can install it later.
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469[02:06:19] <somiaj> not=note
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470[02:06:25] <slystone> Fair enough! ;)
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479[02:08:40] <somiaj> slystone: another thing that might help:
dpkg -l | grep "^rc" -- lists packages that are removed
but still have configuration files on your system.
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481[02:10:02] <slystone> Cheers! Good one! :)
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487[02:13:09] <slystone> somiaj:
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496[02:16:20] <slystone> /dev/root 3.7G 3.4G 57M 99% / Little by
little XD
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498[02:16:31] <somiaj> slystone: you did have a lot of x11 stuff
instaled, surprised.
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501[02:16:49] <somiaj> slystone: those packages are all removed
but contain configuration files. you can dpkg --purge each of those
packages to remove their config files
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502[02:17:11] <somiaj> slystone: disclaimer: This will remove
the configs, do this only on packages you don't want to keep a
backup of the configs
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511[02:21:56] <Loeb> uh
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512[02:22:04] <Loeb> how do I undo the last aptitude command I
commited?
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520[02:24:41] <somiaj> Loeb: aptitude doens't include an
undo. But it does include /var/log/aptitude so you can see what it
did and manually undo it.
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521[02:24:59] <Loeb> I tried putting some openGL driver on and
it nuked a bunch of stuff
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523[02:25:09] <Loeb> I think it's gonna break things so I
gotta undo all that junk
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524[02:25:14] <Loeb> probably a few dozen packages
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526[02:25:34] <somiaj> Loeb: there should be a list of all the
packages it removed so you can reinstall them
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530[02:26:42] <slystone> Cheers! :)
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546[02:31:26] <Loeb> It's saying a lot of the packages
can't be found somiaj
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550[02:32:39] <slystone> somiaj: Thanks for the help. I'm
not done yet, but I should manage. :)
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552[02:33:20] <Loeb> holy hell it uninstalled xorg
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553[02:33:39] <Loeb> Welp, guess I'm restarting from
scratch then
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555[02:34:02] <SerajewelKS> does avconv have an input mode where
inputs are read sequentially instead of merged together?
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556[02:34:50] <bipul_> hi
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564[02:42:11] <bazhang> ,v avconf-utils
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565[02:42:13] <judd> No package named 'avconf-utils'
was found in amd64.
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575[02:46:34] <Sander^home> Hi. Do anyone here know how the
virtualization/kernel space/userspace rings in the cpu works?
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576[02:46:47] <Loeb> magic
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577[02:47:01] <Sander^home> What is those rings called?
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578[02:47:34] <monoxane> Security rings iirc
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581[02:47:51] <Sander^home> Is systemd in such a ring?
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582[02:48:26] <monoxane> Protection rings,
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583[02:48:30] <monoxane> Dunno
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586[02:48:43] <monoxane> Probs in the kernel one
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588[02:48:55] <bipul> Hi,I am making a script that will run on
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595[02:52:22] <Sander^home> I've had an idea for some time
now (as this is what windows7 does), that there should be an own
"audit ring", which makes sure the health of all other
rings is good, that can audit it like a honeypot does.
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597[02:53:05] <Sander^home> There is 4 bits reserved for rings.
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598[02:53:27] <Sander^home> Sorry, 2 bits, 4 rings.
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599[02:53:28] <Sander^home> I belive.
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602[02:54:14] <Sander^home> Yeah, the wiki also says so.
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604[02:54:34] <Sander^home> Wondring if its hard to add another
ring in the middle.
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612[02:57:11] <Sander^home> As intel have rings -1 -2 and -3 for
special hardware audits. But there is no audits which goes across
all rings in software.
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616[02:59:53] <Sander^home> Unless intel have special code for
Linux in the rom, then Linux aint auditted.
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619[03:01:02] <Sander^home> But some how, ms. did make it work,
I wish I knew more details, but I think they used the virtualization
ring as an audit ring.
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620[03:02:04] <Sander^home> In this weeks twit security now, the
explains everything in a 2 hour video podcast.
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621[03:02:10] <Sander^home> they*
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622[03:03:40] <Sander^home> Oh well.. I guess its pretty secure
theese days with the built in anti overrun protection.
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623[03:03:52] <Sander^home> But the stack aint protected by
that.
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640[03:14:19] <Sander^home> I wish ublock origin was built into
firefox, So I could get it on ipad and iphone.
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641[03:14:31] <Sander^home> It works very nice for security.
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642[03:14:48] <Sander^home> Remove all ads and things you dont
want.
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643[03:14:53] <Sander^home> removes* :-)
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650[03:16:58] <Sander^home> Or maybe plugin support on firefox
mobile edition would be enough:)
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652[03:17:27] <Sander^home> I'll check it up with firefox
guys.
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654[03:17:46] <Sander^home> I think its enabled on android
mobile.
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667[03:22:55] <Loeb> hey, someone do me a favor
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668[03:22:59] <Loeb> run aptitude install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386
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669[03:23:11] <Loeb> don't install it unless you want to
reinstall your OS
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671[03:23:43] <Loeb> that's the apt command I ran and it
nuked about 400 packages, I had nvidia-driver installed and working
with a 750ti
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677[03:26:46] <Sander^home> Loeb: I guess such an audit ring
could report this behaviour.. But Maybe systemd cant be in that
ring.
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678[03:27:07] <Loeb> Don't look at me, I don't put
taxes in my linux
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679[03:27:07] <Sander^home> Just thinking loud here.
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680[03:27:33] <Loeb> are you asking because of that intel
management chip they found the other day that runs at ring -3 or -4
or some junk?
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681[03:27:46] <Sander^home> Loeb, yes.
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683[03:28:34] <Loeb> don't think anyone here really cares
about that, try the gentoo channel or something
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685[03:28:52] <Loeb> you wanna go for maximum tinfoil until
someone actually backengineers that thing and it becomes a public
issue
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699[03:35:45] <Sander^home> Loeb: Do you know if there is some
kinda auto bug reporting in debian?
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703[03:36:54] <Loeb> don't look at me, I'm just
switching my main OS over today
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704[03:37:05] <Loeb> or trying to, I had a whole day's
worth of work nuked by a bad apt command
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705[03:37:12] <Loeb> now I can barely get the damn thing to
reinstall
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706[03:37:24] <Loeb> it pukes with my 750ti so I have to switch
my 950 back into the main port
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707[03:37:50] <petemc> k
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708[03:38:42] <Loeb> Why does the installer keep trying to grab
from a cd?
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710[03:38:43] <Sander^home> Loeb: maybe you could report it in.
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714[03:40:05] <Sander^home> Loeb: Have you removed the cd entry
in sources.list?
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715[03:40:19] <Loeb> why the hell would I need to do that to
install from a USB drive?
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716[03:40:28] <Loeb> Moreover why is it doing this when this is
EXACTLY THE SAME THING I DID YESTERDAY
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720[03:44:41] <Loeb> yo ok
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721[03:44:47] <Loeb> why does it want to use lilo instead of
grub now
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723[03:44:50] <Loeb> WHY IS EVERYTHING DIFFERENT
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724[03:45:18] <Sander^home> Loeb: which version of debian are
you using?
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725[03:45:34] <Loeb> 8.5
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728[03:45:41] <Loeb> amd64 xfce
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729[03:45:57] <Loeb> why the hell is this entirely different
from what it did yesterday
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730[03:45:59] <Loeb> this makes no sense
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746[03:54:06] <Sander^home> Loeb: What diffrent did you do?
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747[03:55:05] <Sander^home> I think it dosnt matter if you use
grub or lilo.
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760[04:01:15] <Sander^home> Loeb: I would recommend installing
from a cd anyway.
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761[04:01:23] <Loeb> no
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763[04:01:25] <Loeb> that's stupid
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765[04:01:34] <Loeb> there's no reason a USB stick
shouldn't work
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766[04:01:47] <Loeb> it turns out dd managed to corrupt part of
the image whilst writing
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771[04:03:31] <Sander^home> Loeb: I dont know the details, but I
suspect that can be the reason why fallbacking to lilo.
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772[04:03:47] <Loeb> no
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773[04:03:53] <Loeb> I reimaged the usb drive and it's
using grub now
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774[04:04:48] <Sander^home> Ok, good:) Do you have a very new
graphic card?
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778[04:06:24] <Loeb> gtx 950 has graphical errors with the live
boot
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779[04:06:27] <Loeb> er
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780[04:06:29] <Loeb> the 750ti does
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781[04:06:31] <Loeb> the 950 works fine
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783[04:08:57] <Sander^home> All I know is that specifically
nvidia drivers are lagging atleast 1 years.
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784[04:09:30] <Sander^home> Unless nvidia did listed to linus
statement past years.
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785[04:09:34] <Sander^home> listen
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786[04:10:16] <Loeb> the newer card works better than the old
one
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787[04:10:22] <Loeb> and this is with the built in free drivers
that run by default
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788[04:10:27] <Loeb> with nvidia-drivers installed they work
fine
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797[04:18:09] <Sander^home> Loeb: Its always nice to have a
backup installation cd laying around, saves the dd hassle.
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801[04:20:44] <Sander^home> Loeb: I wouldnt use nvidia drivers
with Linux.
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804[04:21:05] <Sander^home> Loeb: I would go and buy a another
graphic card.
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805[04:21:26] <Loeb> Yes I'm going to buy a whole different
graphics card because some OS is acting up
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806[04:21:28] <Loeb> that's a great idea
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807[04:21:31] <Loeb> you're very smart
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808[04:21:59] <Sander^home>
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810[04:22:16] <Sander^home> Oh well, if it works, then I guess
it dosnt matter, but I meant for next time:)
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814[04:24:52] <Sander^home> Linus going maniac at nvidia saying
fuck you. As it breaks everything.
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815[04:25:14] <petemc> thats pretty old
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817[04:25:30] <Sander^home> Ok, so its improved now?
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818[04:26:08] <petemc> yes
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820[04:26:14] <Sander^home> Nice:)
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821[04:26:44] <Jaga-Jaga> my space doesnt work so i need to
assign another key for it, like right altfor example. what should i
put as "command" ?
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823[04:27:11] <jelly> Sander^home: the context was
"everything" but their ARM development at the time.
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824[04:27:13] <jelly> was not*
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825[04:28:56] <petemc> ?
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827[04:30:12] <Sander^home> jelly: I see, it blocked arm dev.
But does Linux use some of the rings for the grafic drivers?
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834[04:38:30] <Jaga-Jaga> how do i assign "space" to
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835[04:39:40] <Devastator> ok, I've booted gparted, created
GPT partition table on my brand new SSD, then I can use debian
installer to make the partitions and after that install Windows for
my dual boot? or should I create the partitions in gparted already?
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840[04:42:06] <Jaga-Jaga> what is the terminal command for
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848[04:46:31] <Devastator> somiaj ping :)
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852[04:50:00] <quaker_> games in fullscreen seems to run slower
than windowed, regardless of resolution; is this a xorg issue or
driver issue? e.g. warsow <replaced-url
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868[05:08:24] <bipul> What does this error signify? E: Could not
get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily
unavailable)"
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869[05:09:41] <petemc> another process running dpkg
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875[05:11:23] <bipul> petemc, Only one process is allowed to
run? not two?
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876[05:11:54] <petemc> not any more than one
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877[05:12:17] <petemc> hard to keep db consistent otherwise, etc
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878[05:12:22] <bipul> petemc, Why is that so?
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879[05:12:47] <bipul> You mean dpkg is linked with db?
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880[05:12:56] <petemc> yes
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883[05:13:54] <bipul> petemc, Do you have any link , where i can
know more about it's entire architecture. How things work
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885[05:14:11] <petemc> debian.org
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887[05:15:07] <bipul> Yes.
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888[05:15:09] <petemc>
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890[05:18:12] <Loeb> Is there a way to blacklist a pci device in
grub so the OS never even knows it exists?
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891[05:18:24] <zinx> Loeb: no
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892[05:18:35] <LambdaComplex> Loeb: what is the problem that you
think that will solve?
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893[05:18:38] <zinx> Loeb: you can tell the kernel to ignore it,
though.
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895[05:18:51] <zinx> Loeb: and you can do that via the kernel
command line.
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898[05:19:52] <Loeb> I'm trying to use kvm/qemu with vga
passthrough. The HDMI audio device will hang the system if I try to
unbind it or launch the VM with it bound to vfio-pci. But since
it's in the same IOMMU group (18), KVM wants both devices on
vfio in order to boot
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899[05:20:54] <Loeb> since I can't get anyone to help me
disable that requirement in KVM/Qemu/libvirt, I'm trying to
just remove it from the group somehow.
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900[05:21:17] <Loeb> So far everything I've read is to just
unbind it when the kernel loads. This may or may not work, if it
doesn't it'll hang on boot.
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907[05:26:18] <petemc> tried toggling bios settings?
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908[05:26:45] <Loeb> VT-d is enabled, not sure what else there
is to toggle
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909[05:27:12] <Loeb> Unless there is a way to disable the HDMI
audio in the GPU bios
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910[05:27:20] <Loeb> which would probably require a firmware
mod, and windows to load the ROM
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915[05:28:45] <petemc> which gpu driver?
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916[05:28:57] <Loeb> nvidia-drivers
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917[05:29:03] <Loeb> I think lspci just says nvidia
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918[05:29:03] <petemc> perhaps boot argument
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921[05:29:24] <Loeb> I'm running a 950 to pass and a 750ti
for the host, so I can't blacklist the driver
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922[05:30:07] <petemc> the plot thickens
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923[05:30:29] <Loeb> I can blacklist the audio driver
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924[05:30:37] <Loeb> that's how I got vfio-pci on the HDMI
audio
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925[05:30:46] <Loeb> but it just hung the system when I started
the VM
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927[05:31:14] <Loeb> I actually had to hard shutdown after
trying to unbind that device. It'd hang the terminal and after
you shut down, it would unload everything except for one monitor and
that monitor would stay black
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928[05:31:27] <Loeb> something was still runinng, and it only
happened when I had tried to unbind that device
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944[05:41:06] <Loeb> Can't seem to get vfio to grab either
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945[05:41:12] <Loeb> but the good news is it's hooking the
stub on boot now
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955[05:46:08] <Loeb> Progress: it doesn't hang when
unbinding from pci-stub...
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956[05:46:28] <cobalt_> Any encryption wizards about?
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957[05:47:17] <Loeb> holy hell it worked that time
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960[05:49:56] <cobalt_> I was wondering if dd writing 100MB or
so to the beginning of a full-disk encrypted Debian drive would
render the data unreadable (at least, not able to be decrypted.)
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961[05:50:38] <petemc> of course
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962[05:51:04] <Loeb> I think the issue is it wasn't bound
to pci-stub before I started
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963[05:51:11] <Loeb> if you don't do that, it'll throw
all kinds of fits
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964[05:51:19] <Loeb> write this on the wall of knowledge for
those who come after me
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965[05:51:38] <cobalt_> petemc: Thanks.
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1016[06:17:52] <Arch_Angel> hey i need help. How do you install
Yaourt on a debian based computer. I don't know if its possible
because if not i need to find a different way to install products
like Steam
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1019[06:18:23] <simonlnu> don't need yaourt, just convert it
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1021[06:18:56] <Arch_Angel> yeah but where can i get steam in the
repositories. it doesnt show
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1022[06:19:30] <simonlnu> !non-free
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1023[06:19:30] <dpkg> [non-free] a component which contains
software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free
packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free
sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me
about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see
replaced-url
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1024[06:20:46] <simonlnu> or add non-free like above
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1025[06:21:47] <Arch_Angel> how do you add them?
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1026[06:22:31] <cobalt_> I use Synaptic to add sources.
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1028[06:23:40] <cobalt_> Arch_Angel: But you can use the terminal
with nano /etc/apt/sources.list
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1029[06:23:43] <simonlnu> add non-free and contrib to your
sources.list entries (i put them after main usually)
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1030[06:23:51] <simonlnu> e.g.
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1031[06:24:20] <simonlnu> deb
replaced-url
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1032[06:25:23] <simonlnu> you'll need to run an update after
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1033[06:25:31] <Arch_Angel> what do i type to add them?
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1035[06:25:35] <simonlnu> apt-get update or using aptitude
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1036[06:26:03] <simonlnu> look at the example i pasted
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1037[06:26:23] <simonlnu> compare with yours
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1038[06:26:28] <cobalt_> Arch_Angel: It's a text file, so
you'd need to use an editor. Such as: sudo nano
/etc/apt/sources.list
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1039[06:26:41] <Arch_Angel> yeah i have nano
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1041[06:27:05] <Sander^home> Do anyone know how far lxc have
gotten regarding conteinerization, I think openvz have the history
advantage, but is docker using lxc or?
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1042[06:27:24] <cobalt_> Or gnome-text-editor if you want a GUI.
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1059[06:40:24] <Sander^home> At work we used to use openvz, but
consider switching to lxc.
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1061[06:40:48] <HSKW> hell
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1062[06:41:17] <HSKW> i've compiled ffmpeg but when i start
the binary i receive this error: ffmpeg: error while loading shared
libraries: libx264.so.132: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory
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1063[06:41:43] <somiaj> ,v ffmpeg
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1064[06:41:45] <judd> Package: ffmpeg on amd64 --
squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1;
squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-backports:
6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.17-2; wheezy-security:
6:0.8.17-2+deb7u2; jessie-backports: 7:3.0.2-2~bpo8+1; sid:
7:3.0.2-4; stretch: 7:3.0.2-4; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1;
jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.9-dmo1; sid-multimedia:
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1065[06:41:46] <judd> 10:3.0.2-dmo2
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1067[06:41:59] <somiaj> HSKW: any reason you are compling ffmpeg
as opposed to using the version in jessie-backports?
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1068[06:42:51] <HSKW> yes because the jessie not have the non
free codec like fdk acc
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1069[06:43:03] <Sander^home> HSKW: Have you followed the guide
and including one and one library at a time, some might break.
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1070[06:43:30] <HSKW> Sander^home: followed this
replaced-url
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1071[06:43:33] <somiaj> ,v fdk-acc
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1072[06:43:34] <judd> No package named 'fdk-acc' was
found in amd64.
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1073[06:43:52] <somiaj> ,v fdk-aac
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1074[06:43:53] <judd> No package named 'fdk-aac' was
found in amd64.
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1075[06:43:56] <Sander^home> Maybe you need to install
libx264-dev?
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1076[06:44:08] <HSKW> i've compiled all... try to install
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1077[06:44:33] <HSKW> THANKS
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1078[06:44:34] <HSKW> it WORK
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1079[06:44:38] <HSKW> :))
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1080[06:44:42] <somiaj> HSKW: looks like those codecs are
avaialble in nonfree in the packages libfdk-aac0
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1081[06:44:46] <somiaj> ,v libfdk-aac0
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1082[06:44:47] <judd> Package: libfdk-aac0 on amd64 --
wheezy-multimedia: 0.1.1-dmo1; sid/non-free: 0.1.3+20140816-2;
jessie/non-free: 0.1.3+20140816-2; stretch/non-free:
0.1.3+20140816-2
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1087[06:46:30] <HSKW> somiaj: how i can add this on apt-get?
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1088[06:47:40] <somiaj> !non-free
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1089[06:47:40] <dpkg> [non-free] a component which contains
software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free
packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free
sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me
about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see
replaced-url
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1090[06:47:57] <somiaj> HSKW: you will have to add the non-free
to your sources
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1091[06:48:02] <somiaj> !non-free sources
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1092[06:48:03] <dpkg> Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the
two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib
non-free" rather than just "main", then
«aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be
installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms;
check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
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1093[06:48:19] <somiaj> HSKW: and you'll have to add
jessie-backports to your sources to get the ffmpeg from
jessie-backports (jessie just has libav)
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1094[06:48:22] <somiaj> !jessie-backports
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1095[06:48:23] <dpkg> Selected packages intended for the Debian 9
"Stretch" release but recompiled for use with
"Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the
"jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports
are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A
suitable line for your sources.list is «deb
replaced-url
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1100[06:50:28] <HSKW> somiaj: i use wheezy
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1101[06:50:41] <HSKW> 4.7.2
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1106[06:54:50] <somiaj> HSKW: you might want to consider
upgrading to jessie if using a desktop, as wheezy-lts only really
supports server software.
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1107[06:55:03] <somiaj> HSKW: but yes my suggestions won't
work in wheezy
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1116[06:59:47] <HSKW> somiaj: i user on server
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1117[06:59:53] <HSKW> *use
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1119[07:00:18] <HSKW> somiaj: solved with manual compiling... and
the tips to install libx264-dev !!
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pointing out that software is now available in jessie. Maybe for
future knowledge when you move to jessie
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to compile ffmpeg from scratch, I think they would appriciate debian
related feedback if documentation, but for some of those libraries,
you cant turn on all functinality in the compile args, depending on
which libraries you need to have. I remember it took a week of
finding out which libraries was broken and not when I tried ages
ago.
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1139[07:10:31] <Sander^home> But its easy when you know which
libs to compile in ahead.
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1140[07:10:53] <Sander^home> I prefer as many libs as possible.
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1141[07:11:07] <Sander^home> For best functionality.
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1157[07:20:07] <dr-ahti> hi
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1164[07:22:48] <dr-ahti> i have a problem with my dvb-s
equipment: kaffeine or me-tv could not scan and station. i get some
error message like: "cannot parse scanfile.dvb" anyway if
a scanfile.dvb is present or not. my favorit satelite is astra19.2e
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1184[07:37:20] <wsky> W: There is no public key available for the
following key IDs:
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1185[07:37:21] <wsky> 1397BC53640DB551
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1186[07:37:29] <wsky> what should i do with that, what changed
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1187[07:37:31] <wsky> ?
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1188[07:38:01] <wsky> it's on debian jessie
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1192[07:39:55] <SerajewelKS> wsky: you are using a third-party
repo. i assume the google chrome repo.
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1193[07:40:07] <wsky> let me check
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1194[07:40:46] <SerajewelKS> wsky: basically you don't have
the signing key added using apt-key, so apt can't verify that
the repo contents are valid
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1197[07:43:58] <wsky> SerajewelKS: thank you, it was actually the
google-earth repository but also google
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1198[07:44:01] <wsky> thanks
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1223[08:12:19] <placko> Hello, my eyes are no more in best shape.
Can I setup to use huge cursor? It is sometimes hard for me to find
cursor on screen
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1225[08:12:48] <placko> I am using blackbox wm
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1230[08:19:40] <somiaj> placko: I see a package called
'big-cursor'
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1257[08:40:45] <uruk7> hello can you help me -> ffmpeg -i
"input.mp4"* -s '640x360' -b '350k'
-ab '90k' -strict experimental "output.mp4" and
then the error is ->The encoder 'aac' is experimental
but experimental codecs are not enabled, add '-strict -2'
if you want to use it
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1324[09:33:08] <placko> thanks somiaj, i installed big-cursor.
now i am going to reboot computer to see how it works
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gives authintiication error. Any ideas?
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1431[10:44:25] <Krigsforbryter> Hello, my server have got a load
on 3.8 and i cant find any reason for that. When i try to test my
disk with "hdparm -tT /dev/md2" (same with sda1 and sdb1)
its output the device name and hang and not reacting on ctrl+c.
/proc/mdstat says nothings is wrong, smart says nothing is wrong.
help :(
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1434[10:46:12] <brimonk> Krigsforbryter: Is your RAM full? Or
rather, is /run or any other tmpfs full?
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1436[10:46:36] <Krigsforbryter> brimonk: No, 28Gb free
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1439[10:48:10] <Krigsforbryter> brimonk: no mounts is full. /run
have 1% use
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1440[10:50:03] <brimonk> If you have iotop installed, you could
try to run that and see what specifically is hogging the disk.
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1443[10:52:07] <Krigsforbryter> its upto 500K/s total diskwrite,
mostly less
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1445[10:53:45] <brimonk> Krigsforbryter: Is there some sort of
verbosity mode that you can check out? Did you check dmesg for
errors?
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1447[10:54:05] <brimonk> 1/
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1452[10:56:33] <Krigsforbryter> no errors in dmesg, only a bad
checksum on a UDP package the last month
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1455[10:59:00] <TomasCZ> Krigsforbryter, try vmstat -S M 1 4 and
pick two lines with numbers from it for me
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1456[10:59:52] <Krigsforbryter>
replaced-url
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1459[11:03:31] <TomasCZ> Krigsforbryter, ok. wildshot, I
don't see anything wrong. Did you do some operations with
filesystems recently on some storage that errored out on IO or
something?
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1463[11:05:09] <Krigsforbryter> No, only change i have done the
last month is add one domain to my vhost file in nginx and start a
TeamSpeak3 server. And cant see that make a change
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1465[11:05:19] <up2late> anyone awake?
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1466[11:05:27] <Krigsforbryter> I have try to stop the TS3 server
without that help
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1468[11:05:57] <TomasCZ> Krigsforbryter, second is what is the
usual load you see? how many "cores" you have(if you have
one skip next questions)? Did "top -d 1" or "htop -d
10" tell you what is using CPU most?
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1469[11:06:07] <up2late> yay! can someone point me towards a img
file for a debian install (similiar to the way bsd installer works)
?
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1471[11:06:27] <TomasCZ> Krigsforbryter, if you use ts3server
check updates and update?
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1473[11:06:40] <brimonk> up2late: Is it like, an installer from
the net?
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1474[11:06:49] <brimonk> up2late: Or is everything packaged
alltogether?
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1476[11:06:58] <up2late> im trying to intall via a usb
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1477[11:07:10] <brimonk> up2late: Do you have a connection to the
internet?
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1478[11:07:13] <up2late> but my bios only recognizes img wrote
fiels
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1481[11:07:37] <up2late> *files
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1482[11:07:41] <brimonk> up2late: ... It sounds like you're
writing the images to the usb wrong.
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1483[11:07:42] <Krigsforbryter> TomasCZ: I have stoped the ts3
server, and it not help. I'am not running the TS3 server now
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1485[11:08:39] <Krigsforbryter> TomasCZ:
replaced-url
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1495[11:11:02] <Felishia> help
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1496[11:11:04] <Felishia> debian is dead
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1497[11:11:11] <Felishia> I can't do a wget
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1499[11:11:32] <Felishia> it doesn't work it says `Resolving
ipinfo.io (ipinfo.io)... failed: Name or service not known.`
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1500[11:11:39] <Felishia> `wget: unable to resolve host address
'ipinfo.io'`
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1502[11:12:33] <Krigsforbryter> Felishia: try another url on
wget?
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1504[11:13:04] <alternate_nick> curl ipinfo.io
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1505[11:13:21] <alternate_nick> curl ip-addr.tk
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1507[11:13:34] <TomasCZ> Felishia, check your DNS servers are
reachable, and inspect /etc/resolv.conf
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1508[11:13:35] <Felishia> Krigsforbryter, none of them work
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1509[11:13:52] <Felishia> what changed resolv.cong?
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1510[11:13:58] <Krigsforbryter> ok, then the DNS settings is your
problem
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1511[11:14:07] <Felishia> not even an ip works
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1512[11:14:14] <Felishia> I can't even ping outside the
network
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1514[11:14:31] <TomasCZ> Felishia, idk, I'm not NSA support
to know your server
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1515[11:14:36] <Felishia> 102 packets transmitted, 0 received,
100% packet loss, time 101807ms
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1516[11:14:51] <Felishia> it's just a plain debian install
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1517[11:15:08] <TomasCZ> Felishia, firewall? cable dead? at this
point we don't even know where your problems are
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1518[11:15:27] <Felishia> it was working until I ran sudo sysctl
-p
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1520[11:15:32] <TomasCZ> Felishia, is your network interface even
up?
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1522[11:15:44] <TomasCZ> aha
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1528[11:18:14] <TomasCZ> Felishia, did you changed anything in
configuration for sysctl? what was it?
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1532[11:19:21] <TomasCZ> Krigsforbryter, any networked
filesystems?
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1533[11:19:52] <TomasCZ> Krigsforbryter, did you try that top or
htop? and observed it for few seconds? Are you running squid proxy?
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1536[11:20:31] <Felishia> TomasCZ, yes I disabled ipv6
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1537[11:20:37] <Felishia> but then I enabled it again
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1540[11:20:41] <Felishia> and nothing works this time
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1541[11:21:08] <Felishia> #net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1
#net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6 = 1
#net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6 = 1
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1543[11:21:15] <Felishia> now they are commented out
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1544[11:21:20] <Felishia> it doesn't work at all
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1546[11:21:53] <TomasCZ> Felishia, are we talking about a box
without IPv4 ?
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1548[11:22:00] <Felishia> no
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1549[11:22:10] <Felishia> it has ipv4
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1551[11:22:18] <TomasCZ> Felishia, ie: VPS with only ipv6 IP to
the WAN
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1552[11:22:23] <Felishia> no
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1553[11:22:29] <Felishia> it's a fresh debian install
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1554[11:22:35] <Felishia> I did that configuration...
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1555[11:22:38] <Krigsforbryter> TomasCZ: no, only a md raid and a
memdisk, no squid proxy. I cant see any problem in top, htop or
glances
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1557[11:24:21] <TomasCZ> Krigsforbryter, well the only reasons
I've asked on those filesystems and IO errors is that it
sometimes happened to me and consequence of it was constantly higher
cpu load avg most likely because system was unable to write
something(hence is waiting for some device no longer present for
example)
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1559[11:24:53] <TomasCZ> Krigsforbryter, but that is just a
theory. I've experienced it few times though.
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1561[11:25:31] <TomasCZ> Krigsforbryter, try sync ?
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1563[11:25:58] <Krigsforbryter> just the command
"sync"? No parameters?
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1564[11:26:08] <TomasCZ> yop
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1565[11:26:33] <Krigsforbryter> shuld that take long time?
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1568[11:26:53] <TomasCZ> Felishia, any errors when you ran sysctl
-p in logs? ie: sudo tail -F /var/log/messages
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1570[11:27:40] <TomasCZ> Krigsforbryter, usually not. but it
might move us with logfiles towards what the problem might be caused
by
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1574[11:28:30] <Krigsforbryter> TomasCZ: I start it and i got no
output from it, and its not reacting on ctrl+c. like hdparm -tT
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1577[11:29:04] <TomasCZ> Krigsforbryter, or yea a processes that
are "hanging" for long time... Open another prompt and
tail -F /var/logs/messages ....you can thing of interesting.
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1579[11:30:48] <Krigsforbryter> TomasCZ: the newest message there
is 5hours old
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1585[11:33:46] <whooo> i installed
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1586[11:33:58] <whooo> debian but i can only see
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1587[11:34:14] <whooo> black screen asking usename and password
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1591[11:34:39] <whooo> even after entering password I cannot see
gnome desktop
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1592[11:34:54] <whooo> anyone can help meto use gaphic desktop
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1593[11:35:05] <Felishia> TomasCZ, Jun 26 09:27:51 debian kernel:
[309534.045754] sysctl: The scan_unevictable_pages
sysctl/node-interface has been disabled for lack of a legitimate use
case. If you have one, please send an email to linux-mm@kvack.org
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1595[11:35:22] <whooo> hello
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1596[11:35:29] <TomTomTosch> whooo: okay short-winded friend, is
gnome installed at all?
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1598[11:35:49] <whooo> i am new to debian , i think i skipped
that part
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1599[11:36:00] <whooo> @ tomtomtosch
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1600[11:36:27] <TomTomTosch> whooo: dpkg -l gnome should say ii
if gnome is installed
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1602[11:37:24] <whooo> :) yep no gnome @ TomTomTosch
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1603[11:37:34] <whooo> how can i install it ?
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1604[11:37:46] <TomTomTosch> whooo: then as root: apt-get install
task-gnome-desktop
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1605[11:37:53] <whooo> i was using ubuntu , I have no idea about
debian !
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1606[11:38:04] <TomasCZ> Felishia, can't you reboot the box?
is it virtual or physical machine?
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1607[11:38:21] <Felishia> physical
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1608[11:38:36] <TomTomTosch> whooo: do you have an internet
connection?
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1610[11:38:58] <whooo> yeah I have . it says command not found
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1614[11:39:17] <Felishia> TomasCZ, how do I reboot it from
console?
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1615[11:39:33] <TomasCZ> whooo, you do realize that ubuntu is
kind of based on debian? Just find how to get gnome.
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1617[11:39:53] <TomasCZ> Felishia, that's easy either
infamous ctrl-alt-del or type shutdown -r now
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1618[11:39:59] <TomTomTosch> whooo: paste the command and output
to paste.debian.net please
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1619[11:40:00] <whooo> TomTomTosch : why it says command not
found
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1620[11:40:15] <polyzen> WHOOHA
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1622[11:40:52] <polyzen> when you step up in the place, you
better step correct WHOOHA
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1623[11:41:09] <polyzen> whooo, because the command cannot be
found
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1624[11:41:10] <Felishia> TomasCZ, none of them worked...
apparently the commands are hidden in /sbin/
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1625[11:41:10] <TomTomTosch> whooo: which debian release are you
using?
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1626[11:41:33] <whooo> latest debian 8
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1627[11:41:37] <TomasCZ> Felishia, sorry obviously run the
command with sudo in front
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1629[11:42:13] <Felishia> okay it works again
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1630[11:42:20] <TomasCZ> Felishia, that's just me
automatically having root shell open too.
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1631[11:42:22] <Felishia> TomasCZ, yeah it just took me a while
to find
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1632[11:42:24] <whooo> I am running it on Vmware worskstaion 12
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1633[11:42:37] <Felishia> so can I just start openvpn now? and
disable ipv6
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1634[11:42:41] <TomTomTosch> whooo: so just typing apt-get says
command not found?
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1635[11:42:44] <Felishia> or will it just fail again?
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1636[11:43:02] <TomasCZ> Felishia, what are you tryin to achieve?
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1638[11:43:15] <TomTomTosch> whooo: or /usr/bin/apt-get
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1639[11:43:46] <Felishia> TomasCZ, yes it just died again
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1640[11:43:51] <whooo> TomTomTosch : no apt-get works fine
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1642[11:43:54] <Felishia> TomasCZ, use opnvpn
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1643[11:44:12] <Felishia> but I can't because every time I
disable ipv6 the whole internet dies
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1644[11:44:34] <TomTomTosch> whooo: so apt-get install
task-gnome-desktop it can't say command not found if apt-get
works for you.
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1645[11:44:48] <whooo> and when type apt-get install it asks am i
root ?
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1646[11:45:02] <whooo> are you root ? message
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1647[11:45:03] <Felishia> so my system doesn't allow me to
disable ipv6?
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1648[11:45:03] <TomTomTosch> whooo: i said earlier, you need to
be root.
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1652[11:45:10] <Felishia> great
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1654[11:45:29] <whooo> TomTomTosch : how can i root it
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1655[11:45:54] <TomTomTosch> whooo: just type su and your
password.
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1656[11:46:01] <whooo> k
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1659[11:47:16] <Felishia> okay so it's no posible to disable
ipv6 in debian
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1660[11:47:36] <Felishia> because that means that the whole
network interface is diabled
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1661[11:47:54] <simbalion> Hi, I've got a server running
jessie 8.5 and none of the bash startup files are loading for a user
account..
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1665[11:48:58] <whooo> TomTomTosch : root worked well
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1666[11:49:17] <whooo> now it says unable to finf
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1667[11:49:35] <whooo> unable to locate package
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1669[11:50:20] <whooo> does that mean debian is not connected
with internet
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1670[11:50:29] <TomTomTosch> whooo: check if you can ping
google.com
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1728[12:21:26] <MachX> hi
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1729[12:21:32] <MachX> anyone here?
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1735[12:22:59] <dayten> yep
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1750[12:31:40] <MachX> hi
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1873[13:20:33] <MisterGadfly> Why aren't the Jetbrains IDEs
in the repos?
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1877[13:22:04] <TomasCZ> simbalion, Are you positive you are
using bash as your default shell?
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1881[13:23:04] <TomasCZ> simbalion, type bash and enter
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1882[13:23:21] <SerajewelKS> MisterGadfly: because they are not
DFSG-free
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1884[13:23:41] <MisterGadfly> Darn it
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1885[13:23:43] <SerajewelKS> AFAICT they're not even
freeware
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1886[13:23:48] <SerajewelKS> you need to purchase a license
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1887[13:24:13] <MisterGadfly> SerajewelKS: Idea CE is
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1890[13:25:47] <SerajewelKS> MisterGadfly: then it *might* be
eligible to be packaged in the nonfree section
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1893[13:26:55] <TomTomTosch> the CE is compatible with DFSG,
having the Apache 2.0 license, but as they get updated frequently
and it's easy enough to get it from jetbrains directly probably
nobody bothered.
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1905[13:37:40] <MisterGadfly> Where should I put software that I
can't find in the repos? /opt?
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1906[13:37:58] <MisterGadfly> And for security purposes, should I
make it owned by root?
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1909[13:39:38] <TomTomTosch> i usually put it in /usr/local/bin
and owned by my user.
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1910[13:40:29] <MisterGadfly> Oh, moving the directories made
them root.
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1912[13:40:36] <MisterGadfly> So no need to make them
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1933[13:50:44] <HSKW> hello
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1938[13:52:06] <HSKW> on debian what is the correct
/home/yourusername path?
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1941[13:54:16] <TomTomTosch> HSKW: how did you install ffmpeg? if
you got it from a debian repo you don't need to give the full
path.
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1942[13:54:42] <HSKW> TomTomTosch: i cant use debian repo because
need special fuction on ffmpeg.. and i must compile it
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1943[13:54:55] <HSKW> btw... the guide install ffmpeg on special
/bin...
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1946[13:55:08] <HSKW> what is the correct path to use with bash
script?
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1947[13:55:09] <TomTomTosch> HSKW: then the correct path is to
whereever you put ffmpeg
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1949[13:55:30] <HSKW> TomTomTosch: ~/bin ?
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1950[13:55:36] <TomTomTosch> HSKW: how should we know where you
put ffmpeg after compiling?
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1951[13:55:43] <HSKW> see the guide...
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1952[13:55:46] <HSKW> ~/bin
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1953[13:56:02] <TomTomTosch> again, if you put it there, yes.
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1956[13:56:38] <HSKW> some application cant execute on this
strange path... ~
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1957[13:57:06] <HSKW> i would know if is it possible to move it
on standard /usr/bin or other normal path
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1961[13:58:01] <TomTomTosch> move the binary to /usr/local/bin if
you feel like, it shouldn't make a difference.
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1964[14:00:13] <TomTomTosch> if you put the binary in a place
that is in echo "$PATH" you don't need to give the
full path every time you call it.
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1965[14:01:19] <TomTomTosch> /usr/local/bin is usually the place
where one puts compiled stuff, the package manager does not touch
that dir.
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1966[14:01:40] <HSKW> ok better use $path...
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1967[14:02:08] <HSKW> well if i launh "ffmpeg" without
the full path it start
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1970[14:02:43] <HSKW> but it start ever if i recall only
"ffmpeg" on an program like nginx?
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1973[14:03:31] <HSKW> on some guide all exec ffmpeg with full
path: /usr/bin/ffmpeg... i dont know if i write only ffmpeg on nginx
it execute... i cant debug them
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1976[14:04:09] <TomTomTosch> type 'which git' and see
what the full path is.
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1981[14:06:56] <TomTomTosch> i'm not sure how whatever
language you use with nginx invoces the shell. it might be that PATH
is not fully given, in which case it shouldn't be too hard to
just give the full path to the binary.
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1983[14:07:26] <HSKW> this is an example
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1984[14:07:29] <HSKW>
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1986[14:07:37] <simbalion> TomasCZ: I got it thanks :)
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1987[14:07:47] <HSKW> look on rtmp.. exec ffmpeg -i
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1991[14:08:19] <HSKW> he invoke ffmpeg from this module... but
for me dont work.. but if i invoke on bash all work
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1994[14:08:57] <TomTomTosch> HSKW: then give the full path, or
look into the nginx logs and see if it shows some errors.
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2001[14:11:55] <TomTomTosch> ^ 'which ffmpeg' it is
obviously, not git.
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2005[14:13:04] <TomTomTosch> there is also the #nginx channel.
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2013[14:16:18] <jelly> ,v ffmpeg
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2014[14:16:19] <judd> Package: ffmpeg on amd64 --
squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1;
squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-backports:
6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.17-2; wheezy-security:
6:0.8.17-2+deb7u2; jessie-backports: 7:3.0.2-2~bpo8+1; sid:
7:3.0.2-4; stretch: 7:3.0.2-4; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1;
jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.9-dmo1; sid-multimedia:
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2015[14:16:20] <judd> 10:3.0.2-dmo2
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2017[14:16:37] <jelly> oh, it's not present in jessie at
all, only in backports
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2021[14:22:06] <HSKW> thankss
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2022[14:22:22] <HSKW> TomTomTosch: found /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg
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2023[14:22:23] <HSKW> :DD
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2024[14:22:39] <Devastator> I'm trying to install Debian and
Windows 10 in dual boot on an SSD. I was told to create a GPT
partition and then install them, am I correct to assume I just need
to create GPT partition TABLE and leave the partition creation for
the installers itself?
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2025[14:23:46] <Goonzu> Devastator: create the partitions you
want first then install windows 10 first then debian.
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2026[14:24:47] <Devastator> Goonzu I've booted gparted, do
you mean I need to create every partition in gparted, not just the
table?
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2030[14:27:44] <Goonzu> Devastator: oh I see, yeah create the GPT
table and the partitions then install ur os's but I guess it
would be simpler to create these partition during windows 10
installation let windows do its "funny businees" then
leave enough space for your debian partition
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2031[14:28:33] <Devastator> Goonzu well, let's try
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2036[14:32:45] <Lionyx> Hello! Does anybody knows a "mutt
for calendar integration with gmail cal"? I mean, a textbased
software that can sincronyze with google calendar.
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2043[14:36:25] <HSKW> TomTomTosch: how i can watch the nginx
error log?
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2044[14:37:41] <TomTomTosch> HSKW: tail -f -r 500
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2050[14:38:39] <Lionyx> polyzen: tks. also found this one
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2051[14:38:50] <polyzen> lol how could I forget that
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2052[14:39:06] <TomTomTosch> HSKW: oops, that's -n 500 not
-r 500
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2054[14:39:16] <HSKW> ok TomTomTosch: ok
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2061[14:42:06] <HSKW> TomTomTosch: wow some strange shit in the
log!!! WOW
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2062[14:42:51] <HSKW> xmlrpc!!!
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2069[14:47:36] <Devastator> I wish there was a debian netinst
installer with kernel from backports.. but I guess there isn't
one..
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2070[14:48:44] <Joost> I've just upgraded to the 4.6 kernel
in backports.. and now I'm getting a flickering LCD screen
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2071[14:48:54] <Joost> i.e. this bug
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2072[14:49:03] <Joost> any suggestions on how to proceed?
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2073[14:49:40] <Devastator> any reason to use the kernel from
backports?
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2075[14:50:02] <abrotman> Devastator: you can create one if you
have free time
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2079[14:52:08] <Devastator> abrotman what do you recommend? 1-
install debian from DVD-1 and download kernel from backports on
another machine or 2- create a custom netinst with kernel from
backports? I'm assuming I will need more things from backports
along with the kernel, no?
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2081[14:52:36] <Joost> Devastator: newer drivers for new hardware
was the initial reason
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2082[14:53:11] <Devastator> Joost were the old drivers buggy or
something?
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2083[14:53:29] <abrotman> Devastator: depends how many times
you'll use it
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2086[14:53:50] <Devastator> abrotman maybe once hehe
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2088[14:54:08] <Joost> Devastator: yeah, but not this bad
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2089[14:54:13] <Joost> Devastator: is there a way back?
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2095[14:55:32] <Devastator> Joost well, assuming you didn't
remove the default kernel, you just reboot and choose advanced
options, then you can select the old kernel, as a matter of fact you
shouldn't need advanced options at all
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2112[14:58:02] <Devastator> abrotman is this the right wiki?
replaced-url
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2118[15:00:34] <abrotman> That's one, yes
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2137[15:03:42] <Devastator> abrotman can I check
#debian-installer @ oftc or I should not bother them?
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2138[15:03:57] <abrotman> you can
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2144[15:07:22] <Devastator> abrotman also, do you happen to know
from where judd get its data when you use ,pciid?
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2147[15:08:37] <TomTomTosch> Devastator: iirc judd is just an
interface to:
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2152[15:09:50] <Devastator> TomTomTosch interesting, thanks!
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2154[15:11:08] <TomTomTosch> Devastator: here are more details
about the pciid command:
replaced-url
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2158[15:14:02] <Devastator> TomTomTosch even better, I just
didn't understand the modules.pcimap
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2166[15:19:39] <smoutz> Why debian chose systemd ?
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2169[15:20:36] <TomTomTosch> Devastator: tbh, i think that part
is outdated since jessie. not sure about that.
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2172[15:21:05] <mayhew> smoutz:
replaced-url
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2175[15:21:34] <Devastator> TomTomTosch thank you, I thought
about giving some feedback on that, but I don't think it worth
heheh
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2179[15:24:48] <abrotman> Devastator: the drivers themselves
probably
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2181[15:24:52] <smoutz> Why debian doesn't want to comply
with the fsf guidelines for free software distros ?
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2184[15:26:10] <Devastator> abrotman I see, it seems to check
modules.pcimap in jessie-backports as well, the driver for my
ethernet card is there, yet ,pciid gives a bogus result..
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2185[15:26:16] <edwinpaixao> bom dia senhores
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2186[15:26:37] <neskau> bom dia!
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2187[15:26:47] <edwinpaixao> como estão?
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2188[15:26:47] <TomTomTosch> smoutz: you can read the debian free
software guidelines in the social contract
replaced-url
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2189[15:26:48] <Devastator> abrotman I just thought about
reporting it to someone, but as somiaj_ said, I should just move on
hehe
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2190[15:26:56] <Devastator> edwinpaixao english only
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2192[15:27:34] <HSKW> TomTomTosch: found all logs... but a
question: there are max size log or are till space over?
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2193[15:27:34] <smoutz> TomTomTosch: That doesn't answer my
question. My question is why they keep having non-free repos and
thus as a result not having fsf endorsement
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2194[15:27:52] <markybob> because it's fucking useful
sometimes
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2196[15:28:43] <smoutz> markybob: are you answering to me ?
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2197[15:28:47] <markybob> yes
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2198[15:28:56] <TomTomTosch> smoutz: because debian wants to give
the user the choice to use non-free software if they wish to. free
software is the defaul though.
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2202[15:29:31] <smoutz> Right
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2204[15:29:42] <markybob> non-free firmware is essential for an
awful lot of machines, for example
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2205[15:30:00] <sypher> I don't give a damn about FSF
endorsement. I care about function. I'm sure many Debian users
and maintainers agree.
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2206[15:30:10] <HSKW> smoutz: like me.. i need codec like libaac
lamemp3... this is not GPL compilat and you must compile it from
scratch
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2208[15:30:20] <smoutz> HSKW yeah
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2209[15:30:38] <TomTomTosch> and so everyone can devide if they
want to go the free route or not. yay, choice.
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2211[15:31:00] <TomTomTosch> s/devide/decide damn fat fingers.
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2213[15:31:22] <markybob> TomTomTosch: you're fired :P
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2214[15:31:27] <HSKW> TomTomTosch: my prof. said: GPL is like a
virus.. if u use it code from GPL lic. you must "infect"
all your code with GPL lic
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2215[15:31:35] <TomTomTosch> markybob: do i get a payout?
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2217[15:32:16] <HSKW> smoutz: my prof. said: GPL is like a
virus.. if u use any code from GPL lic source. you must
"infect" all your code with GPL lic
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2218[15:32:18] <HSKW> :D
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2219[15:32:23] <mayhew> I think Debian takes the best practical
stance. Use `main` only if you care about using an entirely
FSF-compliant distro. Contrib and non-free are much appreciated
coming from Fedora where you have to add "third party"
stuff like RPMFusion which is honestly a mess compared to Debian.
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2220[15:32:26] <markybob> your professor is a moron
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2221[15:32:52] <HSKW> markybob: i know :d
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2226[15:33:44] <HSKW> If we are here it is only thanks GPL GNU
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2227[15:33:54] <hicksd> next time he says that, point out that
amazon use it perfectly well without opening up the code for their
kindles beyond the base layer kernel changes.
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2228[15:34:27] <hicksd> and that he's over simplfying things
:)
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2229[15:34:35] <HSKW> but... any help with nginx log... on debian
all log on /var/log are cleaned after reboot? or still remain till
space over?
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2230[15:35:25] <markybob> so they're not "cleaned"
if you mean deleted. they're rotated
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2232[15:35:29] <TomTomTosch> HSKW: the -n option limits the
number of lines. leave it out and tail will display the whole file.
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2234[15:36:01] <smoutz> Could Debian do more to become more user
friendly than Ubuntu ?
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2235[15:36:09] <HSKW> rotated? well all log not fill all my hdd
space?
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2236[15:36:19] <sypher> If ubuntu is considered user-friendly,
then no thank you.
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2237[15:36:22] <markybob> that does happen sometimes
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2239[15:37:02] <HSKW> markybob: i use nginx log, the friends
tomtomtosch asked me how to watch but are a lot of line... i suppose
that some day this log eat all my hdd space
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2241[15:37:20] <sypher> HSKW: How long rotated logs are retained
is configurable.
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2242[15:37:28] <markybob> HSKW: sure. if you don't pay
attention and move the rotated logs elsewhere
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2243[15:37:36] <sypher> Or that.
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2244[15:37:53] <markybob> an admin shouldn't ever just
delete logs. that's crazy
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2245[15:37:57] <markybob> never*
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2249[15:38:21] <markybob> damnit i'm firing myself.
can't type
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2250[15:38:22] <HSKW> i've only this line on nginx conf:
access_log /var/log/nginx_access.log combined;
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2251[15:38:22] <HSKW> error_log /var/log/nginx_error.log;
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2252[15:38:38] <sypher> Uh, no, that's not crazy at all. But
okay.
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2253[15:39:38] <markybob> hell why have them at all if
you're just going to delete them
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2255[15:39:56] <markybob> i'd be fired in an instant
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2256[15:40:03] <HSKW> sypher: well the /var/log/ is maintained by
operating system?
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2257[15:40:22] <sypher> There's a time horizon beyond which
logs are of no further use. A logfile from, say, four years ago
isn't useful to me for anything.
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2259[15:40:46] <HSKW> maintained to say rotation or avoid space
eating space
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2260[15:40:49] <HSKW> ?
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2261[15:40:52] <markybob> not really. sometimes hacks go
unnoticed for years
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2263[15:41:39] <markybob> HSKW: i always just rotate and move to
NAS or whatever you have
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2264[15:41:59] <sypher> markybob: K.
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2266[15:42:58] <HSKW> markybob: okay good, the i must create a
cron script that copy on the hdd log only the current log and empty
the /var/log
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2267[15:43:20] <HSKW> this is mean ROTATE, right?
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2268[15:43:53] <markybob>
replaced-url
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2270[15:45:52] <HSKW> markybob: THANKS, more simple to say that
rates
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2273[15:46:31] <sypher> HSKW: A lot of your space consumption
worries are mitigated by the fact that logrotate can compress the
not-current log.
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logfile on server that run apache/nginx are very dangerous...
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2349[16:26:16] <MisterGadfly> I want to store my /tmp in my RAM.
I know how to mount it with fstab, but how can I remove all of the
files in it before mounting it?
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2357[16:28:26] <mayhew> MisterGadfly: you probably should just
restart if you can, a program running might rely on those files. You
could rm -rf it if you're feel like "risking" it.
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2360[16:29:37] <MisterGadfly> mayhew: but after I mount "on
top of it", the previous files and directories are still there
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2370[16:33:28] <MisterGadfly> Seems like the rm worked, mayhew
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2372[16:35:02] <mayhew> nice :) I recently did the same thing
myself, surprised it's not the default (but then again Debian
is pretty conservative)
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2398[16:46:43] <gchristensen> Hi, I'm trying to find the
various patches applied to acpitool 0.5.1 and am not really sure
where to look, as
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2401[16:47:22] <zarath> hi there
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2403[16:47:52] <zarath> went something wrong with the latest
testing updates?
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2404[16:48:31] <zarath> many packages are no longer available and
have broken dependencies
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2405[16:48:54] <mayhew> gchristensen: using `apt-get source
pkg-name` will download the entire package source, including
Debian-patches AFAIK
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2407[16:50:34] <TomTomTosch> well, the weather forecast for
testing says sunny with no uninstallable packages on amd64.
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2409[16:50:59] <TomTomTosch> zarath: but maybe you should take
your problem to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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2412[16:52:33] <TomTomTosch> s/no/very few/
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2413[16:55:06] <zarath> strange. perhaps just broken mirrors
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2425[17:01:11] <google77> So, is it already possible to update
the kernel without rebooting?(not neccessarily on debian though)
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2437[17:06:56] <google77> cool...uptime is love, uptime is life
:P
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2490[17:30:11] <Devastator> ,kernels]
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2491[17:30:19] <Devastator> ,kernels
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2492[17:30:20] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.7.0-rc4-686-pae (4.7~rc4-1~exp1); sid: 4.6.0-1-686
(4.6.2-2); stretch: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.1-1); jessie-backports:
4.6.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.6.1-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.7-ckt25-2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.7-ckt25-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-1)
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2497[17:33:45] <MisterGadfly> Why is Eclipse IDE so old, even in
unstable? What the hell?
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2499[17:34:16] <_Sys5_> Hi, For some odd reason mouse disapears
when you click on terminal window. any ideas?
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2500[17:34:48] <MisterGadfly> This is bullshit
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2503[17:35:27] <_Sys5_> not much luck with update-alternatives
-config x-cursor-theme
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2505[17:37:50] <TomTomTosch> MisterGadfly: that bullshit is
probably due to a lack of manpower. are you free to help out if you
feel so strongly about it.
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2506[17:38:02] <TomTomTosch> * you are
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2507[17:38:12] <MisterGadfly> TomTomTosch: freaking Eclipse? A
very popular IDE?
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2510[17:38:54] <_Sys5_> so, no1 experienced this before?
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2514[17:39:41] <cyphix> is there a version of the debian usb
installer that allows to test debian before installing it?
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2515[17:39:45] <mayhew> MisterGadfly: you can also get it from
the Eclipse website if you want an up-to-date version
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2517[17:40:01] <MisterGadfly> mayhew: that's what I'm
doing, but an updated version should be in the repos
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2518[17:40:02] <mayhew> cyphix: yes, there's live images
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2519[17:40:16] <mayhew> cyphix:
replaced-url
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2521[17:41:31] <mayhew> MisterGadfly:
replaced-url
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2522[17:41:42] <TomTomTosch> MisterGadfly: yeah, freaking
eclipse, if not many cared about the version in stable.
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2523[17:41:44] <mayhew> Like TomTomTosch said, it's a
manpower/interest issue it seems.
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2524[17:41:51] <_Sys5_> ok cool
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2525[17:42:27] <mayhew> I don't think many Debian people
use/like Java, I know a lot of people prefer IntelliJ or lightweight
editors.
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2526[17:42:57] <TomTomTosch> which use java as well :P
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2528[17:43:29] <TomTomTosch> but those don't have active
packages either. i guess it's because people want the up to
date version.
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2529[17:43:42] <mayhew> TomTomTosch: yeah, but I believe most of
the Java community has moved on from Eclipse to IntelliJ.. Even
Android Studio is based on it.
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2530[17:44:03] <TomTomTosch> mayhew: i'd agree.
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2532[17:44:57] <cyphix> mayhew: Ok thank you!
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2533[17:45:18] <MisterGadfly> I do use IntelliJ, but I sometimes
need Eclipse
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2549[17:52:00] <qqz> if I start firefox fromout of a kde session
everything is scaled abnormally large
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2550[17:52:09] <qqz> sicne I have used a higher dpi value to
scale things right for the KDE plasma desktop
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2551[17:52:19] <qqz> however that settings is needed for the KDE
desktop only
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2552[17:52:31] <qqz> firefox should behave the same when started
fromout of a gnome session as when started fromout of a KDE plasma
session
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2553[17:52:42] <qqz> at least this is what I want
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2555[17:52:50] <qqz> anyone her who can help?
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2556[17:52:58] <qqz> it only applies to firefox not to google
chrome
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2557[17:53:06] <qqz> what is the magic that makes firefox scale
its screen appearance and its menus
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2560[17:53:43] <Epakai> about:config layout.css.devPixelsPerPx
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2564[17:54:53] <qqz> ok; if set to one then everything is the
same between gnome and kde
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2568[17:55:48] <qqz> hope that will be o.kj. also when I wanna do
some webdev
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2569[17:56:40] <qqz> anyone here who knows what layout.css.dpi is
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2571[17:57:03] <qqz> may I change the em/ex - value without
affecting the px-values?
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2572[17:57:22] <qqz> what if that parameter is non-zero?
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2575[17:58:07] <MisterGadfly> Ok, this is stupid. Whenever I
create a new tmux pane, my .zprofile gets sourced, but when I try to
make it source after logging in, it doesn't
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2576[17:58:12] <MisterGadfly> What am I doing wrong?
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2591[18:03:48] <Lionyx> Hi! Is there any how use xinit
/usr/bin/libreoffice -args and set an arg to height and width? I
usually do it with chrome and firefox, but I can't seem to find
an option for libreoffice. Is there any how make xinit force it? tks
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2594[18:04:42] <qqz> Lionyx: I think you should start a window
maanger to do so first
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2595[18:04:53] <qqz> and not start libreoffice directly via xinit
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2596[18:05:15] <qqz> start an xterm and invoke there kwin &
lowriter &
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2601[18:05:42] <qqz> and set the default width and height of the
libreoffice window in the kwin setttings dialogue for specific
windows
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2602[18:06:09] <qqz> or invoke kwin & libreoffice fromout of
a bash script if you need that often
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2605[18:07:12] <smev81> when i try to filter for apps that depend
on gtk2 in synaptic it wont let me. If I revisit the filter
configuration it is set to "NOT depend" instead of
"depend". Did you have similar problems and found a
workaround?
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2610[18:11:35] <smev81> I started aptitude which has a view for
that, nevermind
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2623[18:16:35] <BernhardPosselt> where should your custom nginx
config go? /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/default ?
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2630[18:20:21] <DoctorD90> Hi guys! Little issue...I got a
Usb14gb drive...it must have some bad sector because I find out some
corrupted file. I runned e2fsck, but it give 0 errors. I create
thousand copies of a 10megabyte file, hashed them, and I find out
4-5 corrupted copies, so it has to exist bad sectors! ...
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2633[18:20:29] <mayhew> BernhardPosselt: it's entirely up to
you, but the "Debian way" if you're hosting more than
1 site is to add files to /etc/nginx/sites-available and symlink
them to /etc/nginx/sites-enabled if you want them to be enabled.
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2634[18:20:37] <DoctorD90> now im using directly badblocks, but
it also gives 0 errors....
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2635[18:20:42] <BernhardPosselt> mayhew: ty
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2636[18:20:43] <DoctorD90> any idea?
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2638[18:21:16] <unborn> DoctorD90: corrupted files does not mean
bad sectors..
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2639[18:21:29] <DoctorD90> unborn, and what they can mean?
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2641[18:21:53] <unborn> DoctorD90: they are corrupted files.. heh
it can happen anywhere..
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2642[18:22:05] <DoctorD90> mainly it starts to give me corrupted
files, after i go trougth airport checkpoint with Xray....
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2643[18:22:36] <unborn> DoctorD90: I usually got corrupted files
when in windows scanning usb is clicked.. < that is just example
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2644[18:22:39] <unborn> *for
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2647[18:23:05] <DoctorD90> unborn, i copied one 10mega file, 1373
times. I hashed them, and find out 4-5 files corrupted. I repeated
this test, and I find out SAME numbered files corrupted :P
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2648[18:23:52] <DoctorD90> dd if=/dev/urandom of=Desktop/file
bs=1M count=10
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2649[18:24:00] <unborn> DoctorD90: its still does not mean that
you must have bad sectors on your ssd, hdd, usbdisk
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2653[18:24:30] <DoctorD90> i created 1373 copies of that file on
the usbstick, and for 4-5 files, hash doesnt match
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2654[18:24:38] <unborn> if usb disk is low quality than it can
occur
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2656[18:24:55] <DoctorD90> Kingston :P 3.0 :P 18€ xD
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2657[18:25:04] <DoctorD90> 16gb
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2658[18:25:20] <unborn> DoctorD90: what grade is that?
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2660[18:25:46] <unborn> never failed
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2663[18:26:00] <DoctorD90> the stuff that is strage, is that i do
copy-hash stage 2 times, and in both, I find out the SAME file
numbered corrutped
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2664[18:26:09] <DoctorD90> what do you mean with grade?
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2667[18:27:44] <unborn> DoctorD90: there is difference between
them.. just because you have kingstone it does not mean you have
anything good. for example new standard ssd disk from kingstone are
crap.. but same disk graded as A - ultra have completely different
insides and also works much differently...
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2673[18:28:38] <MisterGadfly> How do I ignore the orphan
packages?
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2674[18:28:39] <unborn> DoctorD90: if you have any other usb
stick try your test repeat on that
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2675[18:28:55] <DoctorD90> unborn, done :P
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2676[18:29:01] <DoctorD90> and it goes well... xD
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2677[18:29:10] <DoctorD90> due to this i thougth at bad sector
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2679[18:29:46] <unborn> DoctorD90: so you see? perhaps next time
you purchase some usb stick, you may do research which is better
(even same brand)
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2683[18:30:06] <DoctorD90> lol
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2684[18:30:27] <DoctorD90> so do you suggest that i have to trowh
it in garbage? :P
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2686[18:30:39] <DoctorD90> it is 3 years old
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2687[18:30:42] <DoctorD90> ....uff
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2688[18:30:56] <unborn> DoctorD90: I didnt say that
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2690[18:31:11] <unborn> perhaps you would use it normally for
some crappy stuff
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2695[18:32:15] <Lionyx> tks qqz
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2699[18:33:17] <DoctorD90> ah, and any idea to elude that
sectors?
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2700[18:33:27] <DoctorD90> ah ok
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2703[18:33:30] <DoctorD90> so no idea
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2707[18:36:08] <MisterGadfly> How do I remove the "packages
no longer required" message from apt-get?
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2709[18:36:36] <unborn> MisterGadfly: apt-get autoremove?
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2711[18:36:45] <MisterGadfly> unborn: will that remove the
packages?
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2714[18:37:06] <MisterGadfly> unborn: I don't want them
removed, I just want that message gone
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2716[18:37:29] <markybob> then manually apt-get install them
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2717[18:37:31] <unborn> MisterGadfly: if you see msg that no
longer required then usually on end it tells you what to do with it
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2718[18:37:45] <MisterGadfly> markybob: all of them!?
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2719[18:37:59] <markybob> it's copy and paste. not that
difficult. it wont redownload/reinstall
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2720[18:38:10] <unborn> ah message? meh did not read it properly
MisterGadfly
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2739[18:47:43] <doublehp> teraflops: you told me a few days ago,
that any phrase I adress to you make each time you a bit more
confused ... I think i started using VirtualBox 2 days ago (or less,
maybe 36h). I have already found a bug in it. People are often
confused about my questions, and have dougts about my mental sanity;
fact is, I am just asking for softwares to do what they claim they
can do. And i have a special gift to find bugs.
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2742[18:48:05] <sol> I'm upgrading all my software from
jessie to testing, and E: This installation run will require
temporarily removing the essential package sysvinit-utils:amd64 due
to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you
really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option.
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2743[18:48:05] <sol> is coming up
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2744[18:48:44] <sol> I'm wondering how I should proceed? I
see that this bug was noted and apparently corrected by debian devs
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2745[18:48:52] <sol> but I don't see any comment of how to
get around it
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2746[18:49:21] <sol> I'm not sure its safe to use
Force-LoopBreak
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2747[18:50:47] <markybob> ask #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per
/topic
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2830[19:29:49] <riskc> on certain ACPI events, like connecting my
laptop to an external power source, my usb mouse suddenly gets
unrecognized. I have already had to replug it a billion times in the
past for the reason. Any idea why (happens with differenz mice of
diff vendors)?
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2876[19:54:15] <MisterGadfly> It's nice that Debian's
Firefox package has useless junk disabled by default
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2877[19:54:44] <MisterGadfly> On Archlinux I had to google them
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2889[20:00:14] <rudar> MisterGadfly, what junk?
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2890[20:01:27] <MisterGadfly> rudar: like some of the date
reporting stuff
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2969[20:44:04] <BasicWorker> Hello everyone
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2971[20:44:10] <BasicWorker> Hello, I'm having an issue
right now I'm trying to dpkg-reconfigure libnss-ldap and the
output I get is "default start level arguments (2 3 4 5) do not
match libnss-ldap default start value (none)"
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2978[20:48:09] <jelly> BasicWorker: which debian release are you
using? is that the complete output?
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2980[20:49:28] <BasicWorker> jelly that's pretty much the
complete output the only thing missing is the "warning" at
the beginning
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2981[20:49:52] <BasicWorker> I'm using Linux Mint
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2983[20:50:20] <BasicWorker> Linux Mint 17
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2986[20:51:12] <jelly> 1) a "Warning" isn't
necessarily a problem 2) ask in the Mint channel, or reproduce the
same issue on an actual debian installation
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2987[20:51:14] <jelly> !mint
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2988[20:51:15] <dpkg> Linux Mint is not Debian and is not
supported in #debian. Please use their forums at
replaced-url
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2989[20:51:33] <jelly> BasicWorker: > #linuxmint-help on
irc.spotchat.org
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3029[21:05:50] <Citizen1> mint ....
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3031[21:05:54] <Citizen1> what a noise
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3046[21:12:34] <Projectns> Can somebody help me
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3048[21:12:45] <Projectns> i have a vps with debian and i
installed samba ..
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3049[21:12:59] <Projectns> and also cifs-utils but i cant connect
on the vps samba server with my mac
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3063[21:18:13] <Projectns> why cantttt i connect to smb :(
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3067[21:18:34] <abrotman> can you even connect to the ports?
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3075[21:20:34] <unborn> Projectns: ^^^
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3076[21:20:35] <Projectns> nope
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3077[21:20:36] <Projectns> :(
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3078[21:20:39] <unborn> 3020 TCP UDP CIFS / SMB
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3080[21:20:47] <Projectns> i see that the port 445 and 139 is
open
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3082[21:20:54] <Projectns> i checked it with telnet
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3085[21:21:10] <unborn> 3020 TCP UDP CIFS / SMB is port you need
Projectns
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3086[21:21:10] <Projectns> 3020 is closed
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3088[21:21:20] <Projectns> okay than its not online :/
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3089[21:21:21] <unborn> well why not ssh?
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3090[21:21:34] <Projectns> i wanna mount my drive as a normal
drive
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3091[21:21:40] <unborn> yeah
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3092[21:21:53] <unborn> you can use it as folder via ssh no?
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3093[21:22:03] <Projectns> and how? ^^
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3094[21:22:04] <abrotman> Projectns: sshfs is a thing youcan use,
and should
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3095[21:22:07] <abrotman> !sshfs
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3096[21:22:08] <dpkg> sshfs is a <FUSE>-based filesystem
using <SSH> for securely mounting remote resources. See
replaced-url
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3098[21:22:15] <Projectns> okay
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3099[21:22:19] <unborn> Projectns: its quiet simple
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3100[21:22:28] <Projectns> so its better to use sshfs as
smb/cifs?
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3101[21:22:32] <unborn> Projectns: you did setup ssh keys yeah?
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3102[21:22:36] <Projectns> yes
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3103[21:22:58] <unborn> sure.. you know how to 'connect to
server' in your finder?
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3104[21:23:04] <Projectns> yes :D
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3105[21:23:09] <unborn> use that :)
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3106[21:23:14] <unborn> one moment
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3107[21:23:21] <Projectns> for sshfs ?
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3108[21:23:28] <Projectns> or smb?
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3109[21:24:38] <unborn> Projectns:
sftp://your-username@your-vps.com/home/folder-with-files
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3110[21:24:52] <Projectns> :D over ftp?
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3112[21:25:04] <unborn> connect to it and make shortcut on
desktop or save it to your favourites
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3114[21:25:22] <Projectns> what can you recomend ? sshfs or sftp?
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3115[21:25:30] <unborn> Projectns:
sftp://debian@debian.dev/home/debian/public_html
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3116[21:25:31] <Projectns> *recommend
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3118[21:25:38] <unborn> just said it sftp
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3119[21:25:46] <unborn> dont you read or something?
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3124[21:27:14] <jelly> Projectns: sshfs is just another sftp
client.
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3125[21:27:24] <jelly> so you're using sftp in both cases
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3127[21:27:38] <Projectns> ok
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3132[21:29:20] <breakfast> so here is an ssh command to get
around imgur being blocked ssh -L 9000:imgur.com:80 user@example.com
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3135[21:30:02] <breakfast> is this telling your intermediate
server at example.com to look at port 80 at imgur.com?
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3136[21:30:43] <breakfast> and assigning port 9000 on the subnet
thats blocking imgur to look at that server
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3137[21:30:49] <breakfast> ?
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3139[21:31:31] <hicksd> it's saying forward port 9000
locally to imgur.com port 80 via the example.com system
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3141[21:31:51] <hicksd> see man ssh specifically the -L section
for a bit more info.
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3142[21:32:07] <breakfast> right so thats what i said right? im
new to both networking and ssh
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3143[21:32:13] <hicksd> yes
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3146[21:32:36] <breakfast> the question i have is why this
tyranical subnet would allow you to forward ports
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3147[21:32:47] <breakfast> why would they allow that if they are
blocking websites
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3148[21:33:06] <hicksd> they're not allowing it, they
don't know you're port forwarding
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3150[21:33:15] <hicksd> the only thingthey're allowing is
you to run ssh connections to other hosts
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3151[21:33:22] <hicksd> and you can tunnel over ssh.
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3152[21:33:47] <hicksd> but "they" won't know that
since ssh is encrypted. Only your machine and the example.com
machine will know that
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3155[21:34:59] <breakfast> hicksd: oh what i meant was that you
are opening a port and why would they let you do that. but they have
to let you do it because all normal applications are going to open
random ports if they interact with the internet.
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3160[21:36:14] <breakfast> i get it
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3161[21:36:37] <breakfast> whats the best irc for learning more
about networking stuff?
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3167[21:39:15] <up2late> i just installed debian, how do i set it
to where i can ssh into it from anpother computer
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3169[21:39:23] <up2late> do i have to open a port 22 or whatever
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3171[21:40:17] <TomTomTosch> up2late: all you need to do is
install the ssh server. it's an option during the install too
btw.
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3172[21:40:39] <up2late> i beleive i did that
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3173[21:40:55] <breakfast> what about forwarding port 22?
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3176[21:41:22] <TomTomTosch> why forwarding if you want to access
it from the local network?
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3177[21:41:37] <up2late> how can i see if i installed ssh server
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3178[21:41:43] <up2late> im a debian noob
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3179[21:41:48] <up2late> just trying it out
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3180[21:41:53] <TomTomTosch> up2late: dpkg -l openssh-server
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3181[21:42:35] <TomTomTosch> up2late: or systemctl status
ssh.service to see if the server is up.
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3184[21:43:18] <Citizen1> or apt install ssh
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3185[21:43:38] <breakfast> is the ssh server always running by
default?
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3186[21:43:43] <breakfast> how to stop and start it?
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3190[21:44:21] <up2late> tomocha_____: says its activly running
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3191[21:44:23] <up2late> err
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3192[21:44:23] <TomTomTosch> systemctl stop ssh.service
start/stop/disable/status
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3193[21:44:24] <up2late> tomtom
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3194[21:44:37] <up2late> says listnening on 0.0.0.0.0 tho
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3195[21:44:38] <TomTomTosch> up2late: then you can connect from
your local network.
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3196[21:45:01] <Citizen1> if he is modify the /etc/init.d/ssh its
ok ?
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3198[21:45:13] <Citizen1> or systemctl is necessary ?
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3199[21:45:16] <TomasCZ> don't modify that
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3200[21:45:26] <up2late> TomTomTosch: how do i verify the ip im
using is correct
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3202[21:45:44] <TomasCZ> ifconfig ?
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3204[21:45:55] <TomTomTosch> up2late: 'ip addr' to see
the ips your computer has.
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3207[21:46:30] <Citizen1> and modify /etc/default/ssh and put the
option in its ok ?
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3208[21:46:32] <TomasCZ> or that.
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3209[21:46:54] <up2late> ahh, i used the wrong ip
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3210[21:46:56] <bezaban> Citizen1: that works, but might as well
just change it in the config file, but that is not needed for it to
work (0.0.0.0) is all interfaces
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3211[21:46:56] <up2late> thanks guys
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3212[21:47:04] <bezaban> well all ipv4 interfaces anyway
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3214[21:47:36] <TomTomTosch> no problemo
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3221[21:48:38] <bezaban> Citizen1: also not really recommended if
you are on a network with dynamic ip allocation or if you want to
connect to another network
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3222[21:48:49] <TomTomTosch> TomasCZ: those new tools are a
change for me too, i try to condition myself to use them now, though
;D
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3224[21:49:43] <TomasCZ> I use them for advanced things. other
than that it's just habit
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3225[21:50:07] <TomasCZ> can't say but the formatting of
ifconfig changed not so long ago.
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3229[21:51:19] <bezaban> I find 'ip a' so much more
comfortable than 'sudo ifconfig'. (or sudo /sbin/ifconfig
on other distros)
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3264[22:06:09] <alske> Hello.
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3265[22:06:42] <alske> I am running mint right now. Is there a
way to install debian without a usb or cd? Maybe just with mint?
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3267[22:07:47] <sypher> alske: I THINK there are ways to boot
into an installer from within the current OS, but I can't vouch
for any personally.
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3268[22:08:10] <abrotman> !debootstrap
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3269[22:08:11] <dpkg> debootstrap can create a basic Debian
system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a
<chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a
Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>.
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3270[22:08:17] <alske> sypher: Thanks for answering. I would love
to do it that way.
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3271[22:08:53] <alske> abrotman: Have you tried to do this? Is it
easy?
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3279[22:11:31] <TomTomTosch> alske: there is a little bit more to
it. here is a more in-depth explenation
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3281[22:12:11] <alske> TomTomTosch: Thank you! It seems that i
will download all the packages from the repos. Can I just get the
packages from the iso I already have?
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3290[22:16:23] <TomTomTosch> debootstrap just pulls the base
system. that's not that large. afterwards you can apt-cdrom to
add a cd to your sources. i wouldn't bother, though.
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3291[22:16:41] <TomTomTosch> * you can use
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3310[22:28:18] <Tachyon`> hi, anyone know why oidentd is going
rogue occasionally and maxing out the cpu / spawning lots of copies
of itself? is there a simple identd I can use instead?
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3321[22:33:14] <DebianNewbie> Hello everyone
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3326[22:33:47] <DebianNewbie> I try to do a apt-get install
libnss-ldap on my debian 8 and it can't locate the package
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3338[22:36:48] <jelly> DebianNewbie: yay debian! verify the
contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list are sane... pastebin the file
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3339[22:36:53] <jelly> !jessie sources.list
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3340[22:36:54] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb
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3373[22:51:26] <tonk> I finally had to add the
"non-free" repository and get adobe flash. Couldn't
watch porhub without it.
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3383[22:54:15] <H4ndy> I am pretty sure most of those sites work
just fine without flash
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3384[22:54:20] <H4ndy> :^)
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3391[22:56:24] <jelly> H4ndy: many do html5 only if your browser
can pretend it's a mobile device well enough, else they still
push flash
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3393[22:56:30] <jelly> OR SO I HEAR
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3396[22:56:55] <H4ndy> I heard of a friend who's using
Firefox without plugins just fine
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3397[22:57:15] <jelly> I have no plugins in firefox, sure.
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3398[22:57:24] <jelly> use Chrome for all that crap ;-)
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3403[22:58:23] <jelly> it seems to have betterer hw acceleration
features for video
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3404[22:58:43] <H4ndy> well I am on windows with that, so I have
no direct experience of that on deb
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