People who Joins , Parts or Quits a chatroom
this is #debian
an IRC -Channel at freenode
(freenode IRC service closed
2021-06-01)
0 [00:00:11] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1 [00:00:14] *** Quits: cujotsi (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2 [00:00:25] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
3 [00:00:29] *** Joins: cujotus (~quassel@replaced-ip )
4 [00:00:30] *** Joins: cujotsi (~quassel@replaced-ip )
5 [00:00:34] *** Joins: _MaX_BR (~androirc@replaced-ip )
6 [00:00:52] *** Joins: inaki (~inaki@replaced-ip )
7 [00:03:38] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip )
8 [00:05:28] *** Quits: Nefertiti (~Nefertiti@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ZZZzzz)
9 [00:06:43] *** Joins: ivanfon (~ivan@replaced-ip )
10 [00:06:43] *** Quits: ivanfon (~ivan@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
11 [00:06:43] *** Joins: ivanfon (~ivan@replaced-ip )
12 [00:09:49] *** Quits: hypn0 (~h@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
13 [00:10:08] *** Quits: Evol (~no@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
14 [00:10:11] *** Joins: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip )
15 [00:10:40] *** Quits: TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
16 [00:10:42] *** Quits: yomguy (~momo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
17 [00:11:07] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
18 [00:11:13] *** Joins: TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@replaced-ip )
19 [00:12:41] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
20 [00:12:51] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
21 [00:13:18] *** Quits: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
22 [00:14:35] *** Quits: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
23 [00:15:59] *** Quits: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
24 [00:16:02] *** Joins: MACscr (~MACscr@replaced-ip )
25 [00:16:03] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
26 [00:16:32] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip )
27 [00:17:36] *** Joins: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip )
28 [00:17:49] *** Joins: ch0wn_ (~tmp@replaced-ip )
29 [00:17:50] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
30 [00:18:45] *** Quits: dijenerate (~dijenerat@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
31 [00:19:06] *** Joins: dijenerate (~dijenerat@replaced-ip )
32 [00:19:23] *** Quits: dijenerate (~dijenerat@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
33 [00:21:00] *** Joins: noobineer (~noobineer@replaced-ip )
34 [00:21:07] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
35 [00:23:01] *** Joins: Evol (~no@replaced-ip )
36 [00:25:31] *** Joins: dev-Zero_ (~RedRooste@replaced-ip )
37 [00:27:10] *** Quits: blitzed (~blitzed@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
38 [00:29:53] *** Quits: ioc_ (~ioc__@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
39 [00:31:00] *** Joins: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip )
40 [00:31:23] *** Quits: bitess (~bites@replaced-ip ) (Quit: adios)
41 [00:32:17] *** Quits: kus_ (~kus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
42 [00:32:59] *** Quits: oo_miguel (~miguel@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
43 [00:33:27] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
44 [00:33:55] *** Joins: cascadia_rising (cascadia_r@replaced-ip )
45 [00:35:16] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
46 [00:35:26] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
47 [00:36:15] *** Quits: sweatsuit (~sweatsuit@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
48 [00:36:30] <rant> udev should certainly be able to do that.
If you care to explore that option further you should explain
further "udev fails"
49 [00:36:32] *** Joins: d____ (~d@replaced-ip )
50 [00:37:57] *** Quits: gpunk (~gpunk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: remi.lu)
51 [00:38:03] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
52 [00:38:05] *** Joins: sweatsuit (~sweatsuit@replaced-ip )
53 [00:38:19] *** Joins: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip )
54 [00:39:05] *** Quits: hbautista (~hbautista@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
55 [00:39:36] *** Quits: waboose (~waboose@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
56 [00:40:40] *** Quits: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
57 [00:41:31] *** Joins: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip )
58 [00:41:53] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip )
59 [00:42:09] *** Joins: jeddi (~jedd@replaced-ip )
60 [00:42:23] <Bliepo> Quick question: if a package is not in
the repository for your architecture (armhf) - is there a way to see
whether one's in the works?
61 [00:42:27] *** Joins: format_c (~koeppea@replaced-ip )
62 [00:43:04] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
63 [00:43:36] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
64 [00:43:46] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
65 [00:44:53] *** Quits: cheche (~cheche@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
66 [00:46:52] *** Quits: sm0rux (~sm0rux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
67 [00:47:21] <rant> iirc there is a tracker site that shows
something to that effect.. but perhaps you could build the package
from source idk
68 [00:48:05] <Bliepo> Ok, I'll look for it - I'd
rather not compile from source if it's not really necessary and
I certainly don't want a frankendebian
69 [00:49:54] *** Quits: ejm4010 (~elliot@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
70 [00:49:55] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
71 [00:50:05] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
72 [00:50:22] *** Quits: dev-Zero_ (~RedRooste@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
73 [00:51:15] *** Joins: capn_ (~capn@replaced-ip )
74 [00:51:32] *** Quits: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
75 [00:51:42] *** Joins: n1lsen (~nilsen@replaced-ip )
76 [00:51:50] <SpeakerToMeat> Question, trying to build a
package source I modified some. On my home system it builds ok, but
on my work system it builds ok, but a dep is switching from libc6 to
libc6-amd64, this on a system running a 64 bit kernel, which has
libc6:amd64 installe dof course.....
77 [00:51:54] <SpeakerToMeat> Any idea why?
78 [00:52:15] <SpeakerToMeat> this is pulled in by either
${misc:Depends} or ${shlibs:Depends}
79 [00:52:16] *** Quits: capn (~capn@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
80 [00:52:32] *** Quits: smidlers (~smyers@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
81 [00:52:35] <SpeakerToMeat> Both machines are stretch
82 [00:52:53] *** Quits: ch0wn_ (~tmp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
83 [00:53:29] *** Joins: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip )
84 [00:54:01] *** Joins: smidlers (smyers@replaced-ip )
85 [00:54:39] *** Quits: rafuch0 (~rafa@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
86 [00:55:24] *** Joins: BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
87 [00:55:32] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip )
88 [00:55:38] *** Joins: rizzo (~RizzoTheR@replaced-ip )
89 [00:55:53] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
90 [00:56:16] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
91 [00:56:19] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
92 [00:56:31] *** Joins: bites (~bites@replaced-ip )
93 [00:58:08] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip )
94 [00:58:54] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
95 [00:59:59] *** Quits: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
96 [01:00:03] *** Quits: weez17 (~isaac@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
97 [01:00:16] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
98 [01:00:27] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
99 [01:00:46] *** Joins: weez17 (~isaac@replaced-ip )
100 [01:00:49] *** Joins: taproot (~xternal_@replaced-ip )
101 [01:01:13] *** Quits: noobineer (~noobineer@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
102 [01:02:41] *** Quits: acidtripper (~acidtripp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
103 [01:03:06] *** Quits: taproot (~xternal_@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
104 [01:04:02] *** Quits: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Tech And Me - ZNC server 1.6.3 -
##replaced-url
105 [01:04:32] *** Quits: m3rlin (~m3rlin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
106 [01:04:56] *** Joins: jdenn (~jdenn@replaced-ip )
107 [01:05:35] *** Joins: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip )
108 [01:05:35] *** Quits: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
109 [01:05:35] *** Joins: enoch85 (~enoch85@replaced-ip )
110 [01:05:40] *** Quits: n1lsen (~nilsen@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
111 [01:06:48] *** Quits: Ascavasaion (~username@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
112 [01:07:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1431
113 [01:08:06] *** Joins: fstd_ (~fstd@replaced-ip )
114 [01:09:38] *** Quits: mandeep (~mandeep@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
115 [01:11:24] *** Quits: fstd (~fstd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
116 [01:11:24] *** fstd_ is now known as fstd
117 [01:11:24] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
118 [01:11:59] *** Quits: nutron (~nutron@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
119 [01:12:09] *** Quits: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
120 [01:12:53] *** Joins: nutron (~nutron@replaced-ip )
121 [01:13:07] *** Quits: TimJay (~tim@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
122 [01:14:10] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
123 [01:14:39] *** Joins: Ekchuan (~RandyMars@replaced-ip )
124 [01:14:44] *** Quits: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
125 [01:16:01] *** Quits: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip ) ()
126 [01:16:12] *** Joins: Cefiar (~cef@replaced-ip )
127 [01:16:30] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
128 [01:17:01] *** Joins: nchambers (nchambers@replaced-ip )
129 [01:17:49] *** Quits: cef (~cef@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
130 [01:20:46] *** Joins: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip )
131 [01:21:04] *** Joins: cdown_ (~cdown@replaced-ip )
132 [01:21:51] *** Joins: n1lsen (~nilsen@replaced-ip )
133 [01:22:39] *** Quits: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
134 [01:23:25] *** Joins: edju (~edju@replaced-ip )
135 [01:23:27] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
136 [01:23:29] *** cdown_ is now known as cdown
137 [01:24:14] *** Quits: jdenn (~jdenn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
138 [01:24:22] *** Quits: format_c (~koeppea@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
139 [01:27:30] *** Joins: blitzed (~blitzed@replaced-ip )
140 [01:27:46] *** Quits: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
141 [01:27:47] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
142 [01:28:35] *** Quits: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
143 [01:30:18] *** Joins: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip )
144 [01:30:45] *** Joins: Urangst (~Urangst@replaced-ip )
145 [01:31:28] *** Joins: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip )
146 [01:31:41] *** Quits: [6667]ThinkTank (6667Thin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
147 [01:33:01] *** Quits: Urangst (~Urangst@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
148 [01:33:08] *** Quits: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
149 [01:33:10] *** Joins: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip )
150 [01:33:20] *** Joins: cdown_ (~cdown@replaced-ip )
151 [01:33:21] *** Joins: lowtech (~lowtech@replaced-ip )
152 [01:35:38] *** Quits: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip ) (Quit: LtL)
153 [01:36:29] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
154 [01:36:41] *** cdown_ is now known as cdown
155 [01:36:56] *** Joins: migma (~migma@replaced-ip )
156 [01:37:15] *** Parts: migma (~migma@replaced-ip ) ()
157 [01:37:27] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
158 [01:37:43] *** Quits: Informant (~Informant@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Informant)
159 [01:37:58] *** Joins: Informant (~Informant@replaced-ip )
160 [01:39:10] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
161 [01:39:14] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip )
162 [01:39:16] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
163 [01:39:59] *** Joins: [6667]ThinkTank (~Spacebase@replaced-ip )
164 [01:40:10] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip )
165 [01:40:30] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
166 [01:40:48] *** Quits: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
167 [01:40:56] *** Joins: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip )
168 [01:41:11] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
169 [01:42:47] *** Quits: Informant (~Informant@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
170 [01:43:20] *** Joins: ryan8403 (~ryan8403@replaced-ip )
171 [01:45:22] *** Quits: toozej (~toozej@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - ##replaced-url
172 [01:46:14] *** Joins: him-cesjf (~himcesjf@replaced-ip )
173 [01:46:33] *** Quits: himcesjf_ (~himcesjf@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
174 [01:46:40] *** Joins: toozej (~toozej@replaced-ip )
175 [01:47:51] *** Quits: th_ (~th@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
176 [01:48:08] *** Quits: n1lsen (~nilsen@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
177 [01:50:41] *** Quits: him-cesjf (~himcesjf@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
178 [01:52:21] *** Joins: resixian (~akira@replaced-ip )
179 [01:52:49] *** Joins: uNmowed (~Kaede@replaced-ip )
180 [01:53:08] *** Quits: Namarrgon (~Namarrgon@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
181 [01:53:40] *** Joins: him-cesjf (~himcesjf@replaced-ip )
182 [01:55:25] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
183 [01:56:29] *** Quits: toozej (~toozej@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - ##replaced-url
184 [01:56:35] *** Quits: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
185 [01:56:38] *** Joins: kisslo (~kisslo@replaced-ip )
186 [01:57:17] *** Quits: winem_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
187 [01:58:00] *** Quits: kygu (~kygu@replaced-ip ) (Quit: kygu)
188 [01:58:56] *** Joins: Namarrgon (~Namarrgon@replaced-ip )
189 [01:59:10] *** Joins: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip )
190 [02:00:00] *** Joins: toozej (~toozej@replaced-ip )
191 [02:00:04] <awal1> "pidof chromium ---» 2201 2155
2140 2100 2067 2065 2041" multiple chromium pids because
chromium puts plugins&extensions in separate process?
192 [02:00:12] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
193 [02:00:27] <teatime_> it def. runs a lot of processes, I
don't know precisely why
194 [02:02:25] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip ) (Quit: See you around.)
195 [02:03:02] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip )
196 [02:04:26] *** Quits: apus (~apus@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
197 [02:05:39] *** Joins: Nefertiti (~Nefertiti@replaced-ip )
198 [02:06:22] <awal1> teatime_, seems like chromium gives for
plugins and extensions for crashes reasons (if pluginA is running in
tab1 and plugingA crashes, only tab1 will crashes, not whole
chromium)
199 [02:06:22] *** Quits: Schmetterwurm (~Schmetter@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
200 [02:06:47] <awal1> maybe also bcoz of sandboxing, just maybe
201 [02:07:40] <awal1> ps -p 3560 ---» just returns PID TTY
TIME CMD
202 [02:07:41] <awal1> 3560 ? 00:00:00 chromium
203 [02:08:06] <awal1> not sure how to get more details for a
specific pid
204 [02:08:23] *** Joins: cCkw (~RW@replaced-ip )
205 [02:08:29] <teatime_> ps options are weird
206 [02:08:32] <teatime_> maybe add -w
207 [02:09:00] *** Joins: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip )
208 [02:09:08] <teatime_> or `ps w -p ____`
209 [02:10:42] *** Joins: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
210 [02:10:56] *** Quits: AfroThundr (~AfroThund@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
211 [02:11:35] *** Quits: elb (~elb@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
212 [02:12:17] *** Joins: elb (~elb@replaced-ip )
213 [02:12:18] *** Joins: apus (~apus@replaced-ip )
214 [02:14:29] <awal1> no more info with -w or -ww
215 [02:14:48] <awal1> same with lsof; just points to chromium
216 [02:15:03] <awal1> same for firefox
217 [02:15:48] *** Joins: sasukeskapa (~sasukeska@replaced-ip )
218 [02:17:40] *** Quits: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
219 [02:18:24] *** Joins: Mercury_Vapor (~Mercury_V@replaced-ip )
220 [02:18:32] *** Joins: deb (~unlike@replaced-ip )
221 [02:20:01] *** Quits: sasukeskapa (~sasukeska@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
222 [02:21:37] <teatime_> well 'w' without the - is for
showing the whole command line
223 [02:21:49] <teatime_> what info you want? PPID?
224 [02:21:53] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
225 [02:22:09] *** Quits: Mercury_Vapor (~Mercury_V@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
226 [02:22:18] *** Quits: apt (ibot@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
227 [02:22:33] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
228 [02:22:35] *** Joins: sasukeskapa (~sasukeska@replaced-ip )
229 [02:23:32] *** Joins: apt (ibot@replaced-ip )
230 [02:25:28] *** Joins: th_ (~th@replaced-ip )
231 [02:25:52] *** Joins: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip )
232 [02:27:45] *** Quits: Zorroness_ (~Zorroness@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
233 [02:29:11] *** Quits: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
234 [02:29:53] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
235 [02:30:09] *** Quits: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
236 [02:31:46] *** Joins: AfroThundr (~AfroThund@replaced-ip )
237 [02:32:33] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
238 [02:32:43] *** Quits: sleepyhead (~sleepyhea@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
239 [02:32:44] *** Quits: ryan8403 (~ryan8403@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
240 [02:33:26] *** Parts: resixian (~akira@replaced-ip ) ("WeeChat 1.8")
241 [02:34:41] *** Quits: freeman42x]NixOS (~freeman42@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
242 [02:36:03] *** Joins: slowpokezzz (~slowpokez@replaced-ip )
243 [02:36:26] *** Quits: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
244 [02:37:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1424
245 [02:37:11] *** Joins: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip )
246 [02:40:18] *** Joins: masber (~masber@replaced-ip )
247 [02:40:50] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
248 [02:41:48] *** Quits: kisslo (~kisslo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
249 [02:41:49] *** Joins: kisslo__ (~kisslo@replaced-ip )
250 [02:42:13] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
251 [02:43:45] *** Joins: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip )
252 [02:48:09] *** Quits: edju (~edju@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
253 [02:48:31] <klys> hi. I have a system here running gnome3.
and gdm3., It's using Xwayland. when it turns off the screen
there is some risk od unsaved data loss. I reset the machine and ran
fsck before running it again. I have verified that it isn't
suspending. there is no setting for it to suspend with normal use
which is on. some log messages I read before resetting were
"unable to read /bin/sh".
254 [02:49:33] *** Quits: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
255 [02:49:35] *** Joins: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
256 [02:49:35] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
257 [02:50:47] <klys> it appears to be running fine now. the
display is blanked, and it hasn't failed since my last fsck.
258 [02:53:12] *** Joins: corretico (~corretico@replaced-ip )
259 [02:53:20] *** Joins: himcesjf_ (~himcesjf@replaced-ip )
260 [02:53:37] *** Quits: him-cesjf (~himcesjf@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
261 [02:54:44] *** Quits: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
262 [02:54:52] *** Joins: hiexpo (~hiexpo@replaced-ip )
263 [02:54:52] *** Quits: hiexpo (~hiexpo@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
264 [02:54:52] *** Joins: hiexpo (~hiexpo@replaced-ip )
265 [02:55:11] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
266 [02:55:17] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
267 [02:56:02] *** Quits: slowpokezzz (~slowpokez@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
268 [02:56:10] *** Quits: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
269 [02:58:16] *** Quits: orphean (~Orphean@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
270 [02:58:25] *** Joins: dreamon_ (~dreamon@replaced-ip )
271 [02:58:59] *** Joins: acidtripper (~acidtripp@replaced-ip )
272 [02:59:42] *** Joins: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip )
273 [03:01:09] <klys> it has frozen crashed again. I have an
error message here on the framebuffer in plaintext. it's a
normal error I usually get: [...] [drm:intel_enable_lvds [i915]]
*ERROR* timed out waiting for panel to power on
274 [03:01:50] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
275 [03:01:59] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
276 [03:02:05] *** Quits: dreamon__ (~dreamon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
277 [03:02:12] <klys> were I to switch to tty3+ under normal
circumstances, it would give the same error. there is something
broken, because my keyboard and touchpad are dead.
278 [03:03:34] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
279 [03:03:53] *** Joins: Phah13 (~Phah1@replaced-ip )
280 [03:06:09] *** Quits: Phah12 (~Phah1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
281 [03:06:22] <klys> it appears that linux has not panicked,
though alt+sysrq+r alt+f3 has no effect, where I have used this
before to regain access. I can ping the ip address of the machine,
however ssh to it returns connection reset by peer.
282 [03:06:29] *** Joins: hanasaki (~hanasaki@replaced-ip )
283 [03:06:30] *** Quits: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
284 [03:06:56] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
285 [03:07:29] *** Quits: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
286 [03:07:56] *** Joins: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip )
287 [03:07:59] *** Joins: Sulla (~Sulla@replaced-ip )
288 [03:09:12] *** Quits: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
289 [03:09:13] *** Quits: fujisan (uid4207@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
290 [03:10:24] *** Joins: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip )
291 [03:10:32] <klys> from prior experience, I would say linux
has lost access to the disk. so it is not likely there will be a log
of the events. how can I make some attempt to trace the problem?
there is not a history of disk errors on this fairly new usb-sata
external drive enclosure, where / is mounted.
292 [03:11:09] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
293 [03:12:37] <klys> I'd say it took about 15 minutes from
being usable to untouchable.
294 [03:12:47] *** Joins: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip )
295 [03:13:40] *** Quits: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
296 [03:14:12] *** Joins: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip )
297 [03:14:35] <rant> do you have another machine you can enable
ssh and login remotely?
298 [03:14:54] <rant> most logging facilities can be configured
to email logs in such a scenario as they cant be written to disk
299 [03:15:00] <klys> I'm using debian stretch/stable, with
a debian linux-4.9.x kernel. I do have such a machinbe. ssh is
returning connection reset.
300 [03:16:24] <klys> its logging package is rsyslog, iirc.
301 [03:16:27] <rant> sometimes people dont give enough
information, where as you've offered so much its hard to get at
the root of the issue. I didnt say anything the last half hour cause
I'm not familiar with Xwayland at all and I have very little
knowledge of suspend and it just sounds really complicated to me :P
302 [03:17:06] <rant> to clarify.. this issue is solely related
to i.e. occurs only when you attempt to suspend?
303 [03:17:43] <klys> I have made no attempt to suspend, not
closed the lid, and there is no suspend configured in gnome3/gdm3.
It had merely blanked the display.
304 [03:18:05] <rant> closed the lid while in X or while on a
tty?
305 [03:18:14] *** Quits: bauruine (~bauruine@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
306 [03:18:20] <klys> not closed the lid
307 [03:18:37] *** Joins: goatish (~textual@replaced-ip )
308 [03:18:57] *** Joins: bauruine (~bauruine@replaced-ip )
309 [03:18:58] <rant> oh.. so what exactly is happening then, is
this happening after a period of idleness or just randomly while
using the machine?
310 [03:19:14] <klys> while idle for 10-15 min.
311 [03:20:04] <rant> so it sounds like its something related to
dpms possibly
312 [03:20:17] <klys> the display is still lit up and I can still
see the one log message I quoted.
313 [03:21:13] <rant> ok well mind you there is plenty here
I'm not too confident about helping with but since nobody else
is biting we can try :P
314 [03:21:22] *** Joins: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip )
315 [03:21:32] *** Quits: Ilyas (uid43013@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
316 [03:21:39] <rant> first I'd say we should probably get
some background on the hardware then see if we can manually cause
this problem to occur to at least narrow down the cause
317 [03:21:44] *** Quits: Labu (~mik@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
318 [03:22:05] <klys> it's a toshiba portege m700, with a wd
easystore usb disk
319 [03:22:24] *** Joins: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
320 [03:22:27] <rant> lspci -nn | grep -i vga
321 [03:22:39] <rant> how long you had this machine?
322 [03:22:57] *** Joins: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip )
323 [03:23:12] <klys> a few years, mebby five. it works ok, no
battery.
324 [03:24:11] *** Quits: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
325 [03:24:19] * klys reboots it
326 [03:24:46] <rant> I only ask that because my friend had a
toshiba laptop once that crapped out in such a way that even after a
very rube-goldberg bios flash it still would not boot from CD, HDD,
USB, or any local method.. we were able to boot (and flash the bios)
only from PXE network boot.. and the machine ran fine with access to
internal HDD after it was PXE booted
327 [03:25:08] <rant> I never seen something so strange on any
other machine which led me to think poorly of toshiba :P
328 [03:25:29] *** Parts: hxmuller (62d11e08@replaced-ip ) ()
329 [03:25:49] <klys> my os loader is grub4dos. it has two
stretch installs on said drive. I'm using the other one now to
run fsck and the lspci command...
330 [03:26:12] *** Quits: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
331 [03:26:23] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip )
332 [03:26:33] *** Joins: [b0b] (~bob@replaced-ip )
333 [03:27:20] *** Quits: Sleepy63 (~Sleepy63@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
334 [03:27:21] <klys> oh, it appears the usb-sata enclosure had
come unplugged from its power strip.
335 [03:29:00] *** Quits: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Goodbye and [depending on the time] good night.)
336 [03:29:09] *** Quits: ruffni (~anonymous@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ruffni)
337 [03:29:13] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
338 [03:29:32] *** Quits: b0b (~bob@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
339 [03:29:34] *** [b0b] is now known as b0b
340 [03:29:44] <klys> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]:
Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
(primary) [8086:2a02] (rev 03)
341 [03:29:49] *** Joins: zophyx (~zophyx@replaced-ip )
342 [03:29:54] *** Quits: the-M (~the-M@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
343 [03:30:15] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
344 [03:30:35] <rant> have you checked the BIOS settings to see
if there is any kind of power management settings in there? If so
I'd disable them
345 [03:30:37] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip )
346 [03:30:50] <klys> will do
347 [03:31:12] <rant> I was thinking thought it sounds like it
could be dpms and perhaps we could trigger dpms to see if that
causes the issue
348 [03:31:28] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
349 [03:31:41] <klys> how does swsusp work?
350 [03:32:27] <klys> i you know
351 [03:32:33] <klys> if*
352 [03:32:35] *** Quits: Sulla (~Sulla@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
353 [03:33:58] <klys> USB Sleep and Charge = Disabled
354 [03:34:41] <klys> I think that's in case you suspend
anbd still have a charging usb device
355 [03:35:20] <rant> yes some laptops only keep certain ports
on.. on thinkpads they used to have a green light by one USB port
that'd stay on in that case
356 [03:36:17] *** Quits: Namarrgon (~Namarrgon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
357 [03:36:18] <rant> I was thinkin we should've tried
gathering more info and causing the issue to occur on demand before
changing anything.. cause right now the only way to know if its
happening is wait 20min :P
358 [03:36:44] <klys> yeah if it's okay in that time
I'm saying problem solved
359 [03:36:59] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
360 [03:37:31] <rant> well my thoughts were to query xset and see
what current settings were, then try make it go into a dpms
standby/suspend mode and see if that caused the issue
361 [03:37:45] <rant> in which case its likely some bug specific
to your graphics hardware
362 [03:38:03] <klys> I have verified prior that suspend causes a
hard freeze
363 [03:38:20] *** Joins: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip )
364 [03:39:19] <klys> which xset?
365 [03:40:28] *** Quits: cascadia_rising (cascadia_r@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
366 [03:40:48] *** Joins: kinkyboyfory (~na@replaced-ip )
367 [03:41:25] *** Quits: mahe (~mahe@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
368 [03:41:46] *** Joins: hkw_ (~hkw@replaced-ip )
369 [03:41:54] <klys>
replaced-url
370 [03:42:07] *** Joins: cascadia_rising (cascadia_r@replaced-ip )
371 [03:42:07] *** Joins: mahe (~mahe@replaced-ip )
372 [03:45:01] <rant> your last two messages were recieved and
ignored because they are not decipherable
373 [03:45:29] <klys> the output of xset q
374 [03:45:42] <rant> yeah, idk what it shows you, but its
telling me that paste doesnt exist
375 [03:46:01] <rant> but I found it none the les
376 [03:46:02] <klys> will check
377 [03:46:07] <klys> o ok
378 [03:46:15] <rant> its 1013002
379 [03:46:19] <klys> thx
380 [03:47:02] *** Quits: tsuggs (~tsuggs@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
381 [03:47:07] *** Quits: tonymke (~tonymke@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
382 [03:47:12] <klys>
replaced-url
383 [03:47:21] *** Joins: tsuggs (~tsuggs@replaced-ip )
384 [03:47:48] <klys> it has blanked. will see if it lasts 15
minutes.
385 [03:48:41] *** Quits: cascadia_rising (cascadia_r@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
386 [03:48:51] *** Quits: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
387 [03:49:02] <rant> I was going to suggest "xset dpms
force standby" to see if it causes the issue
388 [03:49:11] <rant> which would prove its dpms causing the
problem
389 [03:49:27] <klys> I suspect the hard drive power for now
390 [03:49:43] <klys> if not, will continue.
391 [03:50:00] <rant> well that too is testable.. but we should
be able to create the problem without the wait and narrow it down
392 [03:50:09] *** Quits: kinkyboyfory (~na@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
393 [03:50:20] <klys> another 8 min's
394 [03:50:26] *** Joins: corretico_ (~corretico@replaced-ip )
395 [03:50:26] *** Joins: cascadia_rising (cascadia_r@replaced-ip )
396 [03:50:37] <rant> "xset dpms force standby"
"xset dpms force suspend" "hdparm -Y
/dev/whatever" etc.. one such command should cause the problem
to occur
397 [03:50:52] *** Joins: tonymke (~tonymke@replaced-ip )
398 [03:51:02] <rant> once you know the actual cause you can work
toward a solution
399 [03:51:08] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
400 [03:51:28] <klys> thx will wait tho
401 [03:51:34] *** Joins: CyberManifest (~CyberMani@replaced-ip )
402 [03:51:44] <klys> s/8/13/
403 [03:51:48] *** Joins: hxmuller (62d11e08@replaced-ip )
404 [03:52:32] <hxmuller> hello, what's the current method
of automatically mounting removable media now?
405 [03:52:33] *** Quits: corretico (~corretico@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
406 [03:53:03] <klys> nautilus might do that, or dolphin (kde)
407 [03:53:05] *** Joins: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip )
408 [03:53:20] *** Joins: ThickD^ (~jmc@replaced-ip )
409 [03:53:49] <klys> if you have neither, you can try the old
auto mount methods
410 [03:54:30] <klys> autofs, or afuse
411 [03:54:31] <hxmuller> can't use udev anymore
412 [03:54:58] <klys> autors is older than udev
413 [03:55:02] <klys> fs*
414 [03:55:19] *** Quits: cascadia_rising (cascadia_r@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
415 [03:55:31] <klys> autofs is older than udev*
416 [03:56:44] *** Joins: cascadia_rising (cascadia_r@replaced-ip )
417 [03:57:18] <rant> most desktops have a fs daemon.. like
gnome/mate and maybe/probably xfce, use gvfsd
418 [03:57:36] <klys> sounds like he's running squeeze or
lenny
419 [03:57:47] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip )
420 [03:58:12] <rant> I responded to that issue earlier.. said
you'd have to elaborate on udev not working because afaik a
udev solution should still work
421 [03:58:20] <rant> you can run arbitrary commands on udev
events
422 [03:58:30] <klys> no, the libc6 would have to be upgraded
423 [03:58:31] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
424 [03:58:50] <klys> the kernel even
425 [03:59:00] *** Joins: wgertler (~william@replaced-ip )
426 [03:59:12] *** Joins: allizom (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
427 [04:00:00] *** Quits: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip ) (Quit: I quit)
428 [04:00:09] *** Joins: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip )
429 [04:00:19] *** Quits: CyberManifest (~CyberMani@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
430 [04:00:43] *** Quits: fixmer (~fixmer@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
431 [04:01:01] *** Quits: banc (~master@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
432 [04:01:01] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
433 [04:01:05] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
434 [04:01:33] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip )
435 [04:01:33] *** Quits: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
436 [04:01:33] *** Joins: tyranny12 (~blarg@replaced-ip )
437 [04:01:38] *** Joins: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip )
438 [04:02:09] *** Quits: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
439 [04:02:25] *** Joins: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip )
440 [04:02:38] <rant> idk where you're getting your
information from but the user said "current" and nothing I
seen tells me they are using some very old version
441 [04:02:41] *** Quits: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
442 [04:03:08] <klys> hxmuller are you on 2.6
443 [04:03:30] <rant> /lastlog hxmuller
444 [04:03:38] <rant> /lastlog hxmuller
445 [04:03:41] <rant> wth
446 [04:04:24] * klys pings his box
447 [04:04:27] <rant> yes earlier when they asked they
specifically mentioned systemd
448 [04:04:43] <klys> it replied, and gnome is running fone now
449 [04:04:44] *** Quits: krytarik (~krytarik@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Abandonando)
450 [04:05:35] *** Quits: wgertler (~william@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
451 [04:05:42] *** Joins: fixmer (~fixmer@replaced-ip )
452 [04:06:21] <klys> well, standby is good
453 [04:08:58] <klys>
replaced-url
454 [04:09:06] *** Quits: allizom (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: allizom)
455 [04:09:09] <rant> keep in mind when I speak of dpms
suspend/standby thats not your normal apm/acpi suspend/standby..
thats just the display only
456 [04:09:38] <klys> ok will try suspend
457 [04:09:46] <rant> you can't issue hdparm commands on a
partition
458 [04:09:49] *** Joins: n4cht (~fsckoff@replaced-ip )
459 [04:09:58] *** Quits: frostschutz (~frostschu@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
460 [04:10:03] <rant> and I'm not certain -Y is the sleep
command I havent used hdparm in ages
461 [04:10:13] *** Joins: frostschutz (~frostschu@replaced-ip )
462 [04:10:22] <klys> exact same output for /dev/sdb
463 [04:10:36] <rant> I was just tossing things at you that you
could try to figure out what's causing this issue by trying to
trigger it manually
464 [04:10:56] <rant> xset dpms force standby works on my machine
to make the screen blank.. and when I press something it comes back
fine
465 [04:11:05] <klys> dpms suspend works, now to try a suspend
again
466 [04:11:11] *** Joins: chachasmooth_ (~chachasmo@replaced-ip )
467 [04:11:40] <rant> standby is just a blanking, a suspend
should actually cause the display to power off
468 [04:12:05] *** Quits: chachasmooth (~chachasmo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
469 [04:12:21] <klys> verified hard freeze on suspend.
470 [04:13:14] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
471 [04:13:26] <klys> is there something I should know about
linux kernels and suspending toshiba laptops
472 [04:13:32] <rant> a dpms suspend or actual acpi/CPU suspend?
473 [04:13:59] <hxmuller> klys: 2.6? version of?
474 [04:14:02] <klys> actual suspend via gnome
475 [04:14:12] <rant> suspend has always been buggy on virtually
everything.. its more a suprise when it works :P
476 [04:14:27] <klys> hxmuller, your linux kernel `uname -r'
477 [04:14:36] <rant> hxmuller: we were trying to figure out
which version of debian you were running
478 [04:14:51] <hxmuller> 4.9
479 [04:14:57] <klys> k
480 [04:15:07] *** Joins: banc (~master@replaced-ip )
481 [04:15:11] <klys> what's up with udev? bug?
482 [04:15:40] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
483 [04:15:45] <rant> thats what I said hours ago when this
question was first asked.. be more specific on what the problem with
udev is.. i.e. what you tried
484 [04:15:50] <hxmuller> not a but from my research, systemd
doesn't allow mounting from udev, a namespace thing I think
485 [04:15:51] *** Joins: Hunterkll_ (~Hunterkll@replaced-ip )
486 [04:15:59] <hxmuller> not a bug*
487 [04:16:06] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip )
488 [04:16:37] *** Quits: Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
489 [04:17:08] *** Joins: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip )
490 [04:17:20] *** Quits: ivanfon (~ivan@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
491 [04:17:23] <klys> power button ressurrected it from suspend,
amazing.
492 [04:17:30] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
493 [04:17:32] *** Quits: _MaX_BR (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
494 [04:17:50] <rant> yes a suspend is when it saves ram to disk
(swap) and powers the machine off entirely
495 [04:17:54] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
496 [04:17:55] *** Joins: r0Oter (~r00ter@replaced-ip )
497 [04:17:56] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
498 [04:18:03] <rant> as opposed to a sleep which is just a lower
power cpu state
499 [04:18:04] *** Quits: r00ter (~r00ter@replaced-ip ) (Disconnected by services)
500 [04:18:08] <klys> I have no swap. that would be hibernate.
501 [04:18:20] *** Joins: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip )
502 [04:18:21] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
503 [04:18:23] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
504 [04:18:28] <rant> yeah I guess you're right.. I confused
the terms
505 [04:18:47] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
506 [04:18:49] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
507 [04:18:56] <rant> hxmuller: you are looking for a non-X
solution or merely a non-DE solution?
508 [04:19:14] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
509 [04:19:17] <hxmuller> I'm only using openbox
510 [04:19:24] <rant> because I honestly think you can run gvfsd
even without X.. it depends down the line on x11-utils but no real
solid X deps and I dont think it needs X running to work
511 [04:19:34] <rant> and gvfsd WILL automount for you
512 [04:19:35] *** Quits: acidtripper (~acidtripp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
513 [04:19:54] *** Quits: frostschutz (~frostschu@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
514 [04:20:06] <rant> but if you want a light solution, udev
calling a mount command is probably as light as it'd get
515 [04:20:28] *** Quits: goatish (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Hibernating)
516 [04:20:32] <hxmuller> mount command with udev no longer
works, can't use pmount either
517 [04:20:39] <hxmuller> that'
518 [04:20:45] <hxmuller> that's what used to work
519 [04:20:53] <rant> yes you've said that multiple times
and it means as little (nothing) as it did the first time
520 [04:21:02] *** Joins: M6HZ (~M6HZ@replaced-ip )
521 [04:21:07] <rant> welcome to the internet, you need pictures
to prove your statements.. its in the rules :P
522 [04:21:16] <hxmuller> rant: your help means just as much
523 [04:21:48] <rant> I'm merely offering suggestions.. help
would be when you offer what you did and what it didnt do as
I've said many times
524 [04:21:49] <M6HZ> .
525 [04:22:01] <rant> the gvfsd is what I'm using and you
could use it just the same
526 [04:22:02] <hxmuller> udev with mount, no success
527 [04:22:06] *** Joins: Zorroness (~Zorroness@replaced-ip )
528 [04:22:12] <klys> systemd-udevd ?
529 [04:22:13] <hxmuller> udev with pmount, no success
530 [04:22:29] <rant> udev requires a rules file which is more
specific than "udev with mount"
531 [04:22:30] *** Joins: smacnay (~textual@replaced-ip )
532 [04:22:34] *** Joins: ranzp (~anon@replaced-ip )
533 [04:22:42] *** Quits: cCkw (~RW@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
534 [04:23:11] <M6HZ> Hello, I'm trying to install debian on
qemu for the first time, but the install failed two times, I got the
message "Installation step failed"
535 [04:23:23] <rant> it'd certainly be more involved than
just installing gvfsd and starting it with your session but I'm
pretty sure it'd work if done right
536 [04:23:32] <klys> m6hz, alt+f2 for terminalk
537 [04:23:32] <M6HZ> Do you know what I could have done wrongly
?
538 [04:23:33] <hxmuller> rant: i am well aware, and know how to
write udev rules
539 [04:24:02] <hxmuller> syslog reports error on the mount and
pmount
540 [04:24:06] <M6HZ> klys, yes and ?
541 [04:24:10] <hxmuller> executed from udev
542 [04:24:14] <klys> m6hz, was it copying debs to your
partition?
543 [04:24:23] *** Quits: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
544 [04:24:35] *** Quits: ranzpirat (~anon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
545 [04:24:36] <M6HZ> klys, Humm I must admit that I don't
know
546 [04:25:16] <klys> m6hz, please come back with some
information about what it was doing and when it fails, preferably
leaving it running.
547 [04:25:17] <hxmuller> klys: you might be barking up the right
tree, i'm off to investigate systemd-udevd and friends
548 [04:25:26] *** Quits: hxmuller (62d11e08@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
549 [04:25:32] <M6HZ> klys, It crashed during "select and
install software"
550 [04:26:01] <klys> m6hz, do you have a bridged network? can
you verify it accessed the internet?
551 [04:26:02] <M6HZ> klys, if you need more information, the vm
is still runing
552 [04:26:46] <klys> m6hz, here are some commands: route -n;
iconfig; ping rs.internic.net
553 [04:26:46] *** Joins: _MaX_BR (~androirc@replaced-ip )
554 [04:26:49] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
555 [04:27:13] <klys> ifconfig
556 [04:28:10] <M6HZ> klys, well I haven't configured
anything on it, but the network should have worked because I've
seen the network usage from my host machine.
557 [04:28:21] *** Joins: radio_nowhere (~thatguych@replaced-ip )
558 [04:28:55] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
559 [04:29:23] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
560 [04:29:37] <M6HZ> klys, here is the command I used to run it:
qemu -hda debian.img -cdrom debian-i386.iso -boot d -m 256
561 [04:30:40] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
562 [04:31:43] <M6HZ> klys, and here is the image I'm using:
debian-9.3.0-i386-netinst.iso
563 [04:31:45] *** Quits: ThickD^ (~jmc@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
564 [04:32:26] <klys> m6hz, what it the size of debian.img
565 [04:32:58] *** Joins: wilkc (~wilkc@replaced-ip )
566 [04:33:21] *** Quits: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
567 [04:33:55] <M6HZ> klys, 5G
568 [04:34:23] <M6HZ> klys, created with: qemu-img create
debian.img 5G
569 [04:34:33] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
570 [04:34:46] *** Quits: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
571 [04:35:10] *** Joins: anon786 (~that_guy@replaced-ip )
572 [04:35:38] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
573 [04:35:39] *** Quits: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
574 [04:36:54] *** Quits: anon786 (~that_guy@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
575 [04:37:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1418
576 [04:37:53] *** Quits: danieled (~danieled@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
577 [04:38:00] *** Joins: kuri0 (Elite21275@replaced-ip )
578 [04:38:34] <kuri0> How can I rebuild all the debian packages
with different CFLAGS or arch ?
579 [04:38:41] <kuri0> I know it would take like forever
580 [04:38:57] <kuri0> if i could only build whats needed in a
minimal debootstrap its better
581 [04:40:26] *** Quits: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
582 [04:40:26] *** Quits: smacnay (~textual@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
583 [04:41:24] *** Quits: foul_owl (~foul_owl@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
584 [04:41:30] <klys> kuri0, what's an example of a package
you'd like to rebuild
585 [04:42:08] *** Joins: jayden6th (~jayden@replaced-ip )
586 [04:42:15] <kuri0> klys, the base packages like the stuff
that debootstrap generates a rootfs with
587 [04:42:51] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
588 [04:43:57] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip )
589 [04:44:27] <M6HZ> klys, I have not specified anything
"exotic" during the whole graphical process, excepted a
different timezone than the one I'm currently in. I chose to
install with the default LVM conf the first time, and without any
partition the last time.
590 [04:44:31] <klys> have you tried apt-get source in
conjunction with dpkg-buildpackage
591 [04:44:48] <themill> kuri0: every source package can be
different because every source package needs different sized hammers
to make it build. What are you hoping to achieve btw?
592 [04:45:50] *** Quits: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip ) (Quit: tccki)
593 [04:46:11] *** Joins: danieled (~danieled@replaced-ip )
594 [04:46:12] *** Joins: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip )
595 [04:46:46] *** Joins: N3V3RM1^D (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
596 [04:47:59] *** Joins: Raed|Laptop (~Raed@replaced-ip )
597 [04:48:16] *** Joins: sz0 (uid110435@replaced-ip )
598 [04:48:41] *** Joins: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip )
599 [04:49:01] <themill> (the starting point is
dpkg-buildflags(1))
600 [04:49:52] *** Quits: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip ) ()
601 [04:57:11] *** Joins: foul_owl (~foul_owl@replaced-ip )
602 [04:58:27] *** Quits: Zorroness (~Zorroness@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
603 [04:58:58] *** Quits: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip ) (Quit: tccki)
604 [04:59:24] *** Joins: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip )
605 [04:59:35] *** Quits: fixmer (~fixmer@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
606 [05:00:13] <M6HZ> klys, I'm trying again with a freshly
downloaded debian netinstall image, I confirm that the network seems
to work properly "Network autoconfiguration has succeeded"
607 [05:01:31] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
608 [05:01:31] <rant> DHCP success doesn't mean the network
is working properly :P
609 [05:02:18] *** Joins: fixmer (~fixmer@replaced-ip )
610 [05:02:28] <themill> especially for a virtual machine -- that
can just mean that it has an internal IP address not that it can
actually go talk to a mirror
611 [05:02:38] *** Quits: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
612 [05:02:53] <themill> I'd also be a little worried that
256MB RAM isn't much if you're using the graphical
installer
613 [05:03:33] *** Quits: corretico_ (~corretico@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
614 [05:03:41] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
615 [05:04:23] <M6HZ> rant, themill well that and the fact that
my bandwidth was used when the virtual machine was downloading from
debian repos.
616 [05:05:39] <themill> You can complete the installation
without going anywhere near a mirror. That might be worth donig.
617 [05:06:15] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip )
618 [05:06:23] <rant> they dont make the minimal isos without
base anymore?
619 [05:06:28] <dtux> anyone know if you can make subkeys with
GPA?
620 [05:06:39] *** Quits: radio_nowhere (~thatguych@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
621 [05:08:14] <kuri0> themill, building a ilp32 chroot
622 [05:08:25] <kuri0> theres an ilp32 repo but its out of date
623 [05:08:30] <M6HZ> themill, I got stuck at the end of
"select and install software"
624 [05:08:39] <themill> kuri0: you might like to look at
rebootstrap then
625 [05:08:39] *** Quits: sh1ro (~sh1ro@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
626 [05:08:51] <themill> M6HZ: I'm suggesting that you avoid
that step
627 [05:09:25] *** Quits: wilkc (~wilkc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
628 [05:09:26] *** Joins: sh1ro (~sh1ro@replaced-ip )
629 [05:09:55] <M6HZ> themill, "<themill> I'd
also be a little worried that 256MB RAM isn't much if
you're using the graphical installer" How much ram would
you recommand?
630 [05:10:09] *** Quits: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
631 [05:10:19] <kuri0> how many years would it take to recompile
everything ?
632 [05:10:22] *** Quits: rafaeldelucena (~rafaeldel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
633 [05:10:25] <kuri0> on one quad core laptop
634 [05:10:45] <rant> install gentoo, and find out :P
635 [05:11:03] <themill> kuri0: depends on how you do the
cross-compiling. If you're doing it in qemu it's *slow*.
If the packages can actually be cross-compiled with rebootstrap,
then it will be faster
636 [05:11:35] <kuri0> themill, i'm going to do the cross
compiling on a x64 quad core
637 [05:11:36] *** Joins: mnuhmnuh (~keeling@replaced-ip )
638 [05:11:38] <kuri0> not in qemu
639 [05:11:43] <kuri0> using a toolchain
640 [05:11:53] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
641 [05:11:59] <themill> kuri0: as I said, that only works if the
package supports it
642 [05:12:57] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip )
643 [05:13:18] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
644 [05:13:35] *** Quits: kooldavi (~kooldavi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
645 [05:14:09] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
646 [05:14:44] *** Joins: STYNC (~Aech@replaced-ip )
647 [05:15:09] *** Joins: kooldavi (~kooldavi@replaced-ip )
648 [05:15:10] <kuri0> themill, theres an existing ilp32 port
could i rebuild that so i have newer packages ?
649 [05:15:45] <themill> probably. if the bootstrapping got far
enough to be self-hosting, that's a much easier prospect
650 [05:16:14] <kuri0> themill, what tools do i have to use ?
651 [05:16:43] <themill> if it's self hosting, just
recompiling the normal source packages might be enough
652 [05:16:51] <themill> plus random patches for kernel and glibc
653 [05:16:53] *** Joins: Andros (~Andros@replaced-ip )
654 [05:17:52] <kuri0> themill, so i have do it manually ?
655 [05:20:41] *** Joins: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip )
656 [05:21:49] *** Quits: Baudelaire (~Baudelair@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
657 [05:21:50] *** Quits: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
658 [05:22:10] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
659 [05:22:15] *** Joins: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip )
660 [05:23:05] *** Quits: psmolen (~psmolen@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
661 [05:23:22] *** Joins: chalcedony (~chalcedon@replaced-ip )
662 [05:24:00] *** Joins: psmolen (~psmolen@replaced-ip )
663 [05:24:38] <themill> kuri0: rebootstrap can probably do this
too
664 [05:25:09] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
665 [05:25:56] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
666 [05:26:03] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip ) ()
667 [05:26:26] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip )
668 [05:26:55] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
669 [05:29:38] *** Quits: kisslo__ (~kisslo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
670 [05:30:57] *** Quits: psmolen (~psmolen@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
671 [05:32:30] *** Joins: keepsmile (~keepsmile@replaced-ip )
672 [05:32:31] *** Joins: psmolen (~psmolen@replaced-ip )
673 [05:34:13] *** Quits: himcesjf_ (~himcesjf@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
674 [05:36:24] *** Quits: keepsmile (~keepsmile@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
675 [05:37:33] *** Quits: darkhanb (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
676 [05:37:44] *** Quits: j7k6 (~j7k6@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
677 [05:38:17] *** Joins: CyberManifest (~CyberMani@replaced-ip )
678 [05:38:48] *** Quits: imfearless (~imfearles@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
679 [05:39:33] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
680 [05:43:36] *** Quits: crn (~crn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
681 [05:44:02] *** Joins: brunoramos_ (~brunoramo@replaced-ip )
682 [05:46:44] *** Quits: brunoramos (~brunoramo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
683 [05:51:24] *** Quits: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
684 [05:53:53] *** Quits: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
685 [05:55:13] *** Quits: jayden6th (~jayden@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
686 [05:55:36] *** Joins: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip )
687 [05:57:44] *** Joins: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip )
688 [05:58:19] *** Quits: kpease (~kpease@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
689 [05:58:26] *** Joins: abc12345 (~abc123@replaced-ip )
690 [05:58:34] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
691 [05:58:40] *** Joins: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip )
692 [05:58:48] *** Quits: abc12345 (~abc123@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
693 [05:59:12] *** Quits: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
694 [05:59:34] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
695 [06:00:32] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
696 [06:01:13] *** Quits: amcorrei1 (~amcorreia@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
697 [06:02:17] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
698 [06:02:50] *** Quits: rhizome (~rhizome@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
699 [06:03:30] *** Joins: ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@replaced-ip )
700 [06:03:44] *** Joins: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip )
701 [06:03:55] *** Joins: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
702 [06:03:56] *** Joins: hypnoslut_rp (~hypnoslut@replaced-ip )
703 [06:03:57] *** Quits: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
704 [06:04:19] *** Joins: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
705 [06:04:21] *** Quits: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
706 [06:04:22] *** Joins: kpease (~kpease@replaced-ip )
707 [06:04:44] *** Joins: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
708 [06:04:45] *** Quits: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
709 [06:05:07] *** Joins: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
710 [06:05:09] *** Quits: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
711 [06:05:30] *** Joins: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
712 [06:05:31] *** Quits: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
713 [06:05:53] *** Joins: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
714 [06:05:54] *** Quits: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
715 [06:06:32] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
716 [06:07:18] <awal1> How can I verify if my wifi adapter
supports 5ghz network?
717 [06:07:43] *** Quits: rizzo (~RizzoTheR@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
718 [06:08:24] *** Quits: ChmEarl (~chmearl@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
719 [06:10:25] *** Joins: c0r4nn1 (~corann@replaced-ip )
720 [06:10:25] *** Quits: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
721 [06:10:41] <themill> "iwlist $device channel"
722 [06:11:18] *** Quits: tonymke (~tonymke@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
723 [06:11:41] *** Quits: kpease (~kpease@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
724 [06:12:27] *** Quits: MACscr (~MACscr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
725 [06:12:50] *** Joins: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip )
726 [06:13:07] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
727 [06:13:28] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
728 [06:13:59] *** Joins: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip )
729 [06:16:00] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip )
730 [06:17:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1412
731 [06:17:35] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
732 [06:17:39] *** Quits: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
733 [06:17:41] <awal1> themill, I already checked that before I
ask and I only got less than 2.4 ghz but I was confused bcoz
googling people say IEEE 802.11 have by default support for 5ghz, so
confused, that is why I asked
734 [06:18:01] <awal1> my paste anyway themill
replaced-url
735 [06:18:54] *** Quits: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip ) ()
736 [06:19:32] <teatime_> for sure not all e.g. 802.11n client
devices support both bands
737 [06:19:55] <awal1> confused bcoz right now I am using
'wicd' and I don't see my 5ghz network when
configured like that but last time I switched my router notwork to
5ghz networkmanager detected it
738 [06:20:09] *** Joins: Crypto (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
739 [06:20:16] *** Crypto is now known as Uberius
740 [06:20:37] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
741 [06:21:03] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
742 [06:22:02] *** Quits: lowtech (~lowtech@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
743 [06:22:44] <awal1> I mean today I was playing with wifi
network and 'wicd' doesn't detect my 5ghz network,
but a few days ago I changed my router to use 5ghz and
'network-manager' detected it. so not sure what happens if
router problematic or my wifi adapter or wicd or well not sure
744 [06:23:00] *** Joins: valeech (~valeech@replaced-ip )
745 [06:26:31] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
746 [06:26:55] *** Joins: MACscr (~MACscr@replaced-ip )
747 [06:29:13] *** Quits: hypnoslut_rp (~hypnoslut@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
748 [06:29:29] *** Quits: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
749 [06:29:47] *** Joins: kupad (kupad@replaced-ip )
750 [06:32:58] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
751 [06:33:08] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
752 [06:39:33] *** Quits: c0r4nn1 (~corann@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
753 [06:41:00] *** Quits: damiano (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
754 [06:43:17] *** Quits: vaidy (vaidy@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
755 [06:43:39] *** Quits: spooky (spooky@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
756 [06:44:01] *** Quits: raSter^ (raster@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
757 [06:44:07] *** Joins: damiano (~quassel@replaced-ip )
758 [06:44:08] *** Joins: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip )
759 [06:46:04] *** Joins: pillupillu (~felix@replaced-ip )
760 [06:46:04] *** Quits: tt (~chinggis6@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
761 [06:46:11] *** Joins: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip )
762 [06:48:14] *** Joins: tt (~chinggis6@replaced-ip )
763 [06:48:33] *** Hunterkll_ is now known as Hunterkll
764 [06:50:13] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
765 [06:50:37] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
766 [06:52:25] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
767 [06:53:40] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
768 [06:55:47] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
769 [06:56:10] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
770 [06:56:28] *** Quits: Arroyo1010 (~Arroyo101@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This is an automatic quit message)
771 [06:56:32] *** Joins: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip )
772 [06:56:42] *** Quits: N3X15 (~nexis@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
773 [06:56:50] *** Joins: N3X15 (~nexis@replaced-ip )
774 [06:59:25] *** Joins: Arroyo1010 (~Arroyo101@replaced-ip )
775 [07:00:33] *** Joins: Zorroness (~Zorroness@replaced-ip )
776 [07:01:38] *** teatime_ is now known as teatime
777 [07:02:47] *** Quits: cascadia_rising (cascadia_r@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
778 [07:04:08] *** Joins: cascadia_rising (~cascadia_@replaced-ip )
779 [07:05:03] *** Quits: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
780 [07:09:18] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Killed (livingstone.freenode.net (Nickname regained by
services)))
781 [07:09:58] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
782 [07:10:41] *** Joins: password8 (~password@replaced-ip )
783 [07:13:01] *** Joins: nakhoa (~nakhoa@replaced-ip )
784 [07:14:07] *** Joins: orbiter (~orbiter@replaced-ip )
785 [07:14:29] *** Quits: hiexpo (~hiexpo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
786 [07:15:44] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
787 [07:15:47] *** Quits: zophyx (~zophyx@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
788 [07:16:08] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
789 [07:16:16] *** Quits: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
790 [07:18:47] *** Quits: orbiter (~orbiter@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
791 [07:19:27] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
792 [07:20:30] *** Joins: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip )
793 [07:23:12] *** Quits: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
794 [07:24:01] *** Quits: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
795 [07:25:51] *** Joins: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip )
796 [07:27:02] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
797 [07:27:26] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
798 [07:28:41] *** Joins: LT^ (~Me@replaced-ip )
799 [07:29:07] *** Joins: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip )
800 [07:29:34] *** Joins: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip )
801 [07:32:08] *** Quits: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
802 [07:32:23] *** Joins: OS-34590 (~OS-34590@replaced-ip )
803 [07:32:51] *** Joins: Al_lA (~derwhalfi@replaced-ip )
804 [07:34:30] *** Quits: LT^ (~Me@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
805 [07:37:19] *** Joins: Sleepy63 (~Sleepy63@replaced-ip )
806 [07:38:37] *** Quits: _MaX_BR (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
807 [07:42:00] *** Joins: Ralin3_ (~Ralin3@replaced-ip )
808 [07:42:00] *** Ralin3_ is now known as Ralin3
809 [07:43:30] <rant> wicd is horribly buggy and caused my wifi
driver to crash routinely.. removing it solved my issues
810 [07:46:41] *** Joins: alkisg (~alkisg@replaced-ip )
811 [07:47:18] *** Quits: CyberManifest (~CyberMani@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
812 [07:51:06] <M6HZ> klys, themill, rant, Impossible to install
debian if "Debian desktop environment" and
"Gnome" are selected when it comes to "select and
install software". If these two options are disabled the
installation continues, else I get "Installation step
failed". With qemu x64_64 2.11.0,
debian-9.3.0-i386-netinst.iso, started by: qemu-system-x86_64 -hda
debian.img -cdrom debian-9.3.0-i386-netinst.iso -boot d -m 1024
813 [07:51:31] *** Joins: Namarrgon (~Namarrgon@replaced-ip )
814 [07:51:38] <M6HZ> Is it "normal" ?
815 [07:51:47] <themill> If you don't select those options
the installer can complete without going to the network.
816 [07:52:21] <themill> No, this isn't normal but I'm
guessing your priority is to finish the installation and then tweak
configuration
817 [07:52:43] *** Joins: Krisostoomus (~Krisostoo@replaced-ip )
818 [07:52:45] *** Quits: nakhoa (~nakhoa@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
819 [07:52:48] <M6HZ> themill, it's done. Just trying to
understand what happend here
820 [07:53:04] <M6HZ> +e
821 [07:55:28] <M6HZ> themill, if this was really a network
issue, how could I've seen this on my monitor: select and
install software retrieving file 1417 of 1417 27% ?
822 [07:55:48] *** Joins: _MaX_BR (~androirc@replaced-ip )
823 [07:55:56] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
824 [07:56:05] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
825 [07:57:42] *** Joins: nogravityrush (~textual@replaced-ip )
826 [07:57:45] <nogravityrush> hi
827 [07:58:17] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
828 [07:58:42] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
829 [07:59:39] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
830 [08:00:45] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
831 [08:00:47] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
832 [08:01:44] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
833 [08:02:05] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
834 [08:02:07] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
835 [08:04:30] *** Joins: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip )
836 [08:06:44] *** Quits: sz0 (uid110435@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
837 [08:06:53] *** Quits: codebam (~codebam@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
838 [08:07:14] *** Quits: Krisostoomus (~Krisostoo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
839 [08:07:39] *** Joins: codebam (~codebam@replaced-ip )
840 [08:09:38] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Hold on, brb.😎)
841 [08:09:52] *** Joins: eklitzke (~evan@replaced-ip )
842 [08:10:02] *** Joins: LucaTM (~LucaTM@replaced-ip )
843 [08:10:12] *** Parts: eklitzke (~evan@replaced-ip ) ("bye")
844 [08:13:22] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
845 [08:14:16] *** Joins: Ozzyboshi (~quassel@replaced-ip )
846 [08:15:05] *** Quits: sharkboy (~jamelleb@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds))
847 [08:15:21] *** Quits: nogravityrush (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My Mac Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
848 [08:16:16] *** Joins: Sia- (~sia@replaced-ip )
849 [08:16:44] *** Joins: sharkboy (~jamelleb@replaced-ip )
850 [08:20:42] *** Joins: mandeep (~mandeep@replaced-ip )
851 [08:22:22] *** Joins: sidmo (~ilven@replaced-ip )
852 [08:23:43] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
853 [08:24:07] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
854 [08:25:05] *** Quits: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
855 [08:26:42] <elios> o/
856 [08:27:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1418
857 [08:27:25] *** Quits: BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
858 [08:29:31] *** Joins: BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
859 [08:30:43] *** Quits: c0ncealed (c0ncealed@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
860 [08:30:45] *** Joins: sudheendra (~sudheendr@replaced-ip )
861 [08:31:22] *** Joins: c0ncealed (c0ncealed@replaced-ip )
862 [08:32:03] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
863 [08:32:38] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
864 [08:33:01] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
865 [08:34:04] <elios> :|
866 [08:35:48] *** Joins: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip )
867 [08:37:04] *** Quits: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
868 [08:38:54] *** Joins: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip )
869 [08:39:27] *** Quits: MACscr (~MACscr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
870 [08:39:38] *** r0Oter is now known as r00ter
871 [08:41:00] *** Joins: esro (~esro@replaced-ip )
872 [08:41:53] *** Quits: cryptic (~cryptic@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
873 [08:43:49] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip )
874 [08:44:06] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
875 [08:44:13] *** Quits: Raed|Laptop (~Raed@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
876 [08:45:03] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
877 [08:46:43] *** Quits: Evol (~no@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
878 [08:47:01] *** Joins: robotpanic (kiliev@replaced-ip )
879 [08:47:24] *** robotpanic is now known as Guest36293
880 [08:47:46] *** Joins: KOJIbKA (~nikobit@replaced-ip )
881 [08:49:12] *** Joins: moetuned (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip )
882 [08:50:41] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
883 [08:51:33] *** Quits: moetunes (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
884 [08:52:48] *** Joins: ^|| (~derlg@replaced-ip )
885 [08:52:48] *** Quits: ^|| (~derlg@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
886 [08:52:48] *** Joins: ^|| (~derlg@replaced-ip )
887 [08:53:03] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Hold on, brb.😎)
888 [08:53:52] *** Quits: FraGManiA (~FraGManiA@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
889 [08:56:47] *** Quits: sudheendra (~sudheendr@replaced-ip ) (Quit: sudheendra)
890 [08:57:21] *** Joins: sudheendra (~sudheendr@replaced-ip )
891 [08:58:03] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
892 [08:58:26] *** Joins: masuberu (~masber@replaced-ip )
893 [08:58:33] *** Quits: masuberu (~masber@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
894 [09:01:14] *** Quits: masber (~masber@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
895 [09:01:54] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
896 [09:02:06] *** Quits: Joufflu (~Joufflu@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
897 [09:02:58] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip )
898 [09:05:55] *** Joins: iderik (~idk@replaced-ip )
899 [09:06:42] *** Joins: Thominus (~Thominus@replaced-ip )
900 [09:06:51] *** Joins: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip )
901 [09:09:42] *** Joins: jannic (~jan@replaced-ip )
902 [09:09:57] *** Quits: KOJIbKA (~nikobit@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
903 [09:11:21] *** Joins: LioneLL (~Pidgin@replaced-ip )
904 [09:12:31] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
905 [09:12:51] *** Quits: pillupillu (~felix@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
906 [09:13:02] *** Joins: platvoeten (~platvoete@replaced-ip )
907 [09:13:06] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
908 [09:13:10] *** Joins: pillupillu (~felix@replaced-ip )
909 [09:13:12] *** Quits: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
910 [09:14:20] *** Joins: Raed|Laptop (~Raed@replaced-ip )
911 [09:14:40] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
912 [09:15:03] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
913 [09:15:09] *** Quits: silverballz (~hidden@replaced-ip ) (Quit: One for all, all for One (2 Corinthians 5))
914 [09:15:33] *** Joins: silverballz (~hidden@replaced-ip )
915 [09:16:11] *** Joins: rsx (~rsx@replaced-ip )
916 [09:16:15] *** Joins: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip )
917 [09:17:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1425
918 [09:17:20] <kuri0> Is there a manual for the rebootstrap tool
?
919 [09:17:28] <kuri0> I can't find how to use it on the
internet
920 [09:17:42] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
921 [09:18:01] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
922 [09:18:42] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
923 [09:19:52] *** Joins: fnstudio (~fabio@replaced-ip )
924 [09:20:03] *** Quits: Sia- (~sia@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
925 [09:21:32] *** Quits: ^|| (~derlg@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
926 [09:21:36] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip )
927 [09:23:23] *** Joins: K0JIbKA (~K0JIbKA@replaced-ip )
928 [09:25:01] *** Joins: DerLG (~derlg@replaced-ip )
929 [09:26:07] *** Joins: vaidy (vaidy@replaced-ip )
930 [09:27:08] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
931 [09:27:17] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
932 [09:27:53] *** Quits: afx237 (~afx237@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
933 [09:28:10] *** Joins: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip )
934 [09:29:21] *** Quits: Ozzyboshi (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
935 [09:31:35] *** Quits: m3pow (~m3pow@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
936 [09:31:48] *** Joins: afx237 (~afx237@replaced-ip )
937 [09:36:48] *** Quits: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
938 [09:36:58] *** Quits: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip ) ()
939 [09:37:52] *** Joins: bars0 (~Name@replaced-ip )
940 [09:38:45] *** Quits: mueslo (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
941 [09:39:05] *** Joins: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip )
942 [09:39:30] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
943 [09:39:40] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
944 [09:40:05] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
945 [09:40:41] *** Joins: spooky (spooky@replaced-ip )
946 [09:40:43] *** spooky is now known as Guest66384
947 [09:42:56] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip )
948 [09:42:59] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
949 [09:43:24] *** Joins: hakiri (~hakiri@replaced-ip )
950 [09:43:31] *** Parts: hakiri (~hakiri@replaced-ip ) ()
951 [09:44:00] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
952 [09:44:56] *** Joins: Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@replaced-ip )
953 [09:46:51] *** Joins: ljc (~ljc@replaced-ip )
954 [09:47:08] *** Joins: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip )
955 [09:47:36] *** Quits: ljc (~ljc@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
956 [09:48:04] *** Joins: amit (~amit@replaced-ip )
957 [09:48:11] *** Joins: mueslo (~quassel@replaced-ip )
958 [09:48:23] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
959 [09:48:28] *** amit is now known as Guest50995
960 [09:48:47] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
961 [09:50:11] *** Quits: silverballz (~hidden@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
962 [09:51:13] *** Quits: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip ) (Quit: tccki)
963 [09:51:33] *** Joins: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip )
964 [09:51:37] *** Joins: nogravityrush (~textual@replaced-ip )
965 [09:51:46] <nogravityrush> hi
966 [09:51:51] <nogravityrush> can someone help
967 [09:51:52] *** Joins: bitess (~bites@replaced-ip )
968 [09:52:15] <alkisg> !ask
969 [09:52:15] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
970 [09:52:28] <nogravityrush> how do i install radeon drivers
971 [09:53:12] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
972 [09:53:21] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
973 [09:53:37] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
974 [09:54:20] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip )
975 [09:54:35] *** Quits: bites (~bites@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
976 [09:55:24] *** Quits: Guest50995 (~amit@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Guest50995)
977 [09:56:48] *** Joins: XPUCTOB (~XPUCTOB@replaced-ip )
978 [09:57:41] <alkisg>
replaced-url
979 [09:58:42] *** Quits: auscompgeek (~aucg@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
980 [09:59:07] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
981 [09:59:31] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
982 [09:59:46] *** Joins: Eduard_Munteanu (~Eduard_Mu@replaced-ip )
983 [10:00:26] *** Joins: the-M (~the-M@replaced-ip )
984 [10:01:52] *** Quits: dirac1 (~magrathea@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
985 [10:06:14] *** Quits: mindstorm (~mindstorm@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)
986 [10:06:46] *** Joins: dirac1 (~magrathea@replaced-ip )
987 [10:09:33] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
988 [10:09:59] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
989 [10:10:05] *** Joins: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip )
990 [10:10:44] *** Joins: raSter^ (raster@replaced-ip )
991 [10:10:45] *** Quits: sudheendra (~sudheendr@replaced-ip ) (Quit: sudheendra)
992 [10:11:56] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
993 [10:13:24] *** Joins: Havis (~Havis@replaced-ip )
994 [10:13:35] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
995 [10:13:54] *** Quits: larjona (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
996 [10:13:57] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nix64bit)
997 [10:15:40] *** Joins: oo_miguel (~miguel@replaced-ip )
998 [10:17:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1431
999 [10:17:49] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1000 [10:18:11] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1001 [10:18:44] *** Quits: pillupillu (~felix@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1002 [10:19:31] *** Joins: haventerminal (~rb@replaced-ip )
1003 [10:20:33] *** Joins: silverballz (~hidden@replaced-ip )
1004 [10:22:17] *** Quits: bars0 (~Name@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1005 [10:22:50] *** Quits: OS-34590 (~OS-34590@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1006 [10:23:54] *** Joins: marianab (~mariana@replaced-ip )
1007 [10:24:32] *** Quits: haventerminal (~rb@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
1008 [10:24:35] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1009 [10:24:58] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip )
1010 [10:27:47] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1011 [10:28:51] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1012 [10:29:13] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1013 [10:29:18] *** Joins: pierre__ (~pierre@replaced-ip )
1014 [10:29:49] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
1015 [10:30:07] *** Quits: pierre__ (~pierre@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1016 [10:30:38] *** Quits: iderik (~idk@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1017 [10:32:38] *** Joins: iderik (~idk@replaced-ip )
1018 [10:33:07] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
1019 [10:35:08] *** Joins: cdown_ (~cdown@replaced-ip )
1020 [10:35:10] *** Quits: fnstudio (~fabio@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1021 [10:37:30] *** Joins: Levure (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1022 [10:37:42] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1023 [10:37:52] *** cdown_ is now known as cdown
1024 [10:38:23] *** Quits: the-M (~the-M@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1025 [10:41:13] *** Quits: N3V3RM1^D (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: N3V3RM1^D)
1026 [10:41:52] *** Quits: nwe (~niklas@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1027 [10:42:02] *** Joins: nwe (~niklas@replaced-ip )
1028 [10:43:23] *** Joins: DXR (~lyrical@replaced-ip )
1029 [10:43:43] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip ) ()
1030 [10:44:02] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip )
1031 [10:47:04] *** Quits: Raed|Laptop (~Raed@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1032 [10:50:05] *** Joins: fnstudio (~fabio@replaced-ip )
1033 [10:50:34] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip )
1034 [10:59:59] *** Joins: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip )
1035 [11:04:33] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
1036 [11:05:09] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1037 [11:05:28] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
1038 [11:06:08] *** Joins: schu-r (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1039 [11:06:57] *** Quits: dayten (~gnoid@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1040 [11:08:16] *** Joins: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip )
1041 [11:10:04] *** Joins: Ramakandra (~OS-33708@replaced-ip )
1042 [11:11:05] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1043 [11:11:17] *** Joins: dasj (~daniel@replaced-ip )
1044 [11:11:27] *** Joins: Krisostoomus (~Krisostoo@replaced-ip )
1045 [11:12:18] *** Joins: LT^ (~Me@replaced-ip )
1046 [11:12:27] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip ) ()
1047 [11:12:51] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip )
1048 [11:13:24] *** Quits: fnstudio (~fabio@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1049 [11:14:41] *** Joins: nibble_zero (~nibble_ze@replaced-ip )
1050 [11:15:56] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, there are also
opensource drivers radeon/amdgpu fyi
1051 [11:15:59] *** Joins: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip )
1052 [11:16:12] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1053 [11:16:13] *** Quits: skipshooter (~markie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1054 [11:16:43] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1055 [11:16:53] *** Joins: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip )
1056 [11:16:55] *** Joins: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip )
1057 [11:17:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1439
1058 [11:17:08] <dutchfish> nogravityrush,
replaced-url
1059 [11:17:45] *** Quits: K0JIbKA (~K0JIbKA@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1060 [11:18:45] *** Quits: catsup (d@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1061 [11:18:54] *** Joins: catsup (~d@replaced-ip )
1062 [11:19:05] *** Joins: K0JIbKA (~K0JIbKA@replaced-ip )
1063 [11:19:31] *** Quits: catsup (~d@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1064 [11:19:53] *** Joins: catsup (d@replaced-ip )
1065 [11:21:10] *** Quits: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1066 [11:21:10] *** Joins: OS-35931 (~OS-35931@replaced-ip )
1067 [11:23:14] *** Joins: forgotmynick (uid24625@replaced-ip )
1068 [11:23:34] *** Joins: larjona (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1069 [11:24:07] *** Joins: _ADN_ (~username@replaced-ip )
1070 [11:24:23] *** Quits: mixoholic (uid254732@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1071 [11:24:23] *** Joins: ings (~ings@replaced-ip )
1072 [11:25:09] *** Parts: Krisostoomus (~Krisostoo@replaced-ip ) ("Leaving")
1073 [11:25:42] *** Quits: rsx (~rsx@replaced-ip ) (Quit: rsx)
1074 [11:26:20] *** Joins: vmod (~ivyshed@replaced-ip )
1075 [11:26:21] *** Joins: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip )
1076 [11:26:26] *** Quits: ings (~ings@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1077 [11:27:13] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
1078 [11:27:22] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1079 [11:27:28] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip )
1080 [11:27:35] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1081 [11:28:15] <nogravityrush> so how do i fix it
1082 [11:29:28] *** Quits: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1083 [11:30:23] *** Joins: holmgren (~magnus@replaced-ip )
1084 [11:30:34] *** Joins: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip )
1085 [11:30:48] *** Joins: j7k6 (~j7k6@replaced-ip )
1086 [11:32:17] *** Quits: marianab (~mariana@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1087 [11:35:10] *** Joins: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip )
1088 [11:37:45] *** Joins: Quatroking (~Quatrokin@replaced-ip )
1089 [11:37:48] *** Quits: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
1090 [11:40:14] *** Quits: kriger (~norge@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1091 [11:40:40] *** Joins: kriger (~norge@replaced-ip )
1092 [11:41:41] *** Quits: holmgren (~magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1093 [11:41:58] *** Quits: CodeBlue1776 (~CodeBlue1@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1094 [11:42:21] *** Quits: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1095 [11:42:28] *** Quits: zerick (~zerick@replaced-ip ) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
1096 [11:42:42] *** Quits: dirac1 (~magrathea@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1097 [11:42:50] *** Joins: CodeBlue1776 (~CodeBlue1@replaced-ip )
1098 [11:43:21] *** Joins: vikingship (~vikings@replaced-ip )
1099 [11:44:20] *** Quits: infinmed (infinmed@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1100 [11:44:30] *** Quits: K0JIbKA (~K0JIbKA@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1101 [11:44:35] *** Quits: vikingship (~vikings@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1102 [11:45:10] *** Joins: goatish (~textual@replaced-ip )
1103 [11:45:31] *** Joins: vikingship (~vikings@replaced-ip )
1104 [11:45:50] *** Joins: zerick (~zerick@replaced-ip )
1105 [11:46:58] *** Joins: ariel (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1106 [11:47:52] *** Joins: orbiter (~orbiter@replaced-ip )
1107 [11:49:41] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, what card do you have
installed?
1108 [11:49:50] *** Joins: frostschutz (~frostschu@replaced-ip )
1109 [11:49:54] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
1110 [11:51:03] *** Joins: infinmed (infinmed@replaced-ip )
1111 [11:51:21] *** Quits: vikingship (~vikings@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1112 [11:51:39] *** Joins: K0JIbKA (~K0JIbKA@replaced-ip )
1113 [11:52:05] *** Quits: K0JIbKA (~K0JIbKA@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1114 [11:53:10] *** Joins: K0JIbKA (~K0JIbKA@replaced-ip )
1115 [11:54:13] *** Joins: dirac1 (~magrathea@replaced-ip )
1116 [11:55:19] *** Quits: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip ) (Quit: tccki)
1117 [11:55:40] *** Joins: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip )
1118 [11:56:00] *** Joins: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip )
1119 [11:57:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1445
1120 [12:00:02] *** Quits: olivetree_ (~znc@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
1121 [12:00:12] *** Quits: infinmed (infinmed@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1122 [12:00:13] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1123 [12:00:23] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
1124 [12:00:29] *** Quits: lankanmon (~LKNnet@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1125 [12:01:03] *** Joins: hypn0 (~h@replaced-ip )
1126 [12:01:11] *** Joins: infinmed (infinmed@replaced-ip )
1127 [12:02:50] *** Joins: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip )
1128 [12:03:00] *** Joins: Tiffon (~name@replaced-ip )
1129 [12:03:02] <dutchfish> K0JIbKA, i prolly cant help you but
this wiki maybe has a hint on GK104-200-KD-A2 ->
replaced-url
1130 [12:03:13] *** Quits: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1131 [12:03:46] <nogravityrush> dutchfish so can you help
1132 [12:04:23] *** Quits: satanist (~satanist@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1133 [12:04:25] <nogravityrush> ?
1134 [12:04:29] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1135 [12:04:42] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1136 [12:05:43] *** Quits: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1137 [12:06:08] *** Joins: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip )
1138 [12:06:17] *** Joins: satanist (~satanist@replaced-ip )
1139 [12:06:37] *** Quits: esro (~esro@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1140 [12:06:53] *** Quits: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip ) ()
1141 [12:06:59] <nogravityrush> hey ho hello
1142 [12:08:07] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip )
1143 [12:08:42] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, what card do you have?
1144 [12:08:50] <nogravityrush> 2 r9 390
1145 [12:09:02] *** Joins: gpunk (~gpunk@replaced-ip )
1146 [12:09:08] <nogravityrush> i get umtp error
1147 [12:09:30] <nogravityrush> i installed the drivers beta
that... amdgpu-pro
1148 [12:09:48] *** Joins: pLk (~sherwood@replaced-ip )
1149 [12:09:51] *** Joins: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip )
1150 [12:10:01] *** Quits: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ouch... that hurt)
1151 [12:10:20] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
1152 [12:10:26] *** Quits: LioneLL (~Pidgin@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1153 [12:10:30] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, well, the opensource
drivers should work almost out of the box, you just need to install
the firmware as described in the link i gave you.
1154 [12:11:27] *** Joins: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip )
1155 [12:11:28] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, the APIProprietary wont
work at the moment
1156 [12:11:47] *** Joins: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip )
1157 [12:12:01] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1158 [12:12:09] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
1159 [12:12:39] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, asuming you are running
Debian/stavle stock kernel and being up 2 date.
1160 [12:12:47] *** Quits: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1161 [12:12:48] <dutchfish> s/stavle/stable*
1162 [12:13:52] <nogravityrush> im putting the iso to usb
1163 [12:14:01] <nogravityrush> i cant even get ubuntu
1164 [12:14:15] <nogravityrush> to install
1165 [12:14:15] <nogravityrush> it says ntfs error
1166 [12:14:25] <nogravityrush> and then sdd cdrom cant be mounted
1167 [12:15:11] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1168 [12:16:05] *** Quits: LT^ (~Me@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1169 [12:16:17] *** Quits: M6HZ (~M6HZ@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1170 [12:17:12] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, ?
1171 [12:17:22] <nogravityrush> for ubuntu
1172 [12:17:37] <dutchfish> !ubuntu
1173 [12:17:37] <dpkg> Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not
Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on
chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less
helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on
#debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
1174 [12:17:52] *** Joins: l3archos (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1175 [12:18:45] <nogravityrush> i know i know i tried ubuntu i
used to be able to install it
1176 [12:19:01] <nogravityrush> now it gives me error /dev/sdd
cdrom cant be mounted
1177 [12:19:33] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, ok, try to rephrase you
question(s), so i can understand what the problem is.
1178 [12:19:35] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1179 [12:19:56] *** Joins: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip )
1180 [12:20:02] <nogravityrush> maybe its the cdrom image that has
problem
1181 [12:20:13] *** Joins: dema (~dema@replaced-ip )
1182 [12:20:16] <nogravityrush> ty i will try the site you
mentioned
1183 [12:21:24] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, fyi, you dont need a
cdrom, for installing a video card driver. If Debian is installed
correctly apt-get or aptitude is what you need to install packages.
1184 [12:22:45] <nogravityrush> yep
1185 [12:22:54] <nogravityrush> i guess i will note program today
1186 [12:23:03] <nogravityrush> just try to get debian fixed
1187 [12:23:12] <dutchfish> ok, good luck
1188 [12:23:18] <nogravityrush> ty
1189 [12:23:38] <unreg> Hi all! Can someone tell me if it is
normal for a debian stretch + koha to consume 1.5 GB of RAM?
1190 [12:24:16] *** Joins: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip )
1191 [12:25:13] <dutchfish> unreg, it doesnt 'consume'
that much. But any linux (Debian included) will cache data in large
quantities. Use `free` to get insight in this.
1192 [12:25:56] <unreg> dutchfish thanks :)
1193 [12:26:08] <dutchfish> unreg, yw
1194 [12:26:20] <nogravityrush> u got android dutchfish
1195 [12:26:26] <nogravityrush> just wondering
1196 [12:26:40] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, no, i use Debian
1197 [12:26:46] <dutchfish> !debianlove
1198 [12:26:46] <dpkg> rumour has it, debianlove is the more I
gain knowledge about Linux, the more I like Debian. Ask me about
<why debian> too. For more information, see
replaced-url
1199 [12:26:56] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1200 [12:27:01] *** Quits: Neomex (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1201 [12:27:19] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1202 [12:28:21] *** Joins: airchild (55c4882f@replaced-ip )
1203 [12:30:33] *** Quits: airchild (55c4882f@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
1204 [12:31:21] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1205 [12:31:43] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1206 [12:31:43] *** Joins: the-M (~the-M@replaced-ip )
1207 [12:32:23] *** Joins: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip )
1208 [12:33:26] *** Joins: the-M_ (~the-M@replaced-ip )
1209 [12:33:39] *** Quits: the-M_ (~the-M@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1210 [12:33:46] *** Joins: Jiraya_sensei (~Jiraya_se@replaced-ip )
1211 [12:33:48] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1212 [12:33:51] *** Quits: the-M (~the-M@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1213 [12:34:11] *** Joins: the-M (~the-M@replaced-ip )
1214 [12:34:42] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
1215 [12:35:09] *** Joins: maxzor (~maxzor@replaced-ip )
1216 [12:36:24] *** Quits: l3archos (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: l3archos)
1217 [12:36:44] <tuxillo> bye
1218 [12:36:45] *** Parts: tuxillo (~antonioh@replaced-ip ) ()
1219 [12:36:55] *** Joins: l3archos (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1220 [12:37:53] *** Quits: mcint (mcint@replaced-ip ) (Quit: just do it!!!)
1221 [12:38:45] *** Joins: czesmir (~stefan@replaced-ip )
1222 [12:38:54] <Jiraya_sensei> i have recently upgraded my kali
linux distro to 2018.1 .after upgrdaing i have run into a few
problems...can i pm somebody abt it
1223 [12:39:16] <nkuttler> !kali
1224 [12:39:16] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
1225 [12:40:47] *** Joins: clownface (~domul@replaced-ip )
1226 [12:40:51] *** Quits: naos62 (~naos62@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1227 [12:40:54] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1228 [12:41:03] *** Joins: naos62 (~naos62@replaced-ip )
1229 [12:41:18] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1230 [12:41:45] *** Joins: fightthe1alrus (~user@replaced-ip )
1231 [12:43:14] *** Joins: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip )
1232 [12:43:23] *** Quits: BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1233 [12:45:39] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1234 [12:45:59] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1235 [12:46:28] <Jiraya_sensei> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY sk280694
1236 [12:47:00] <apollo13> Jiraya_sensei: that ended up in the
channel, please change your password
1237 [12:47:03] <apollo13> (quickly)
1238 [12:47:11] <apollo13> and also verify that your email address
didn't get changed
1239 [12:47:30] *** Joins: vbutnaru (~vbutnaru@replaced-ip )
1240 [12:47:54] *** Joins: ancarda (sid239273@replaced-ip )
1241 [12:49:06] <ancarda> Hi, could someone help me with the
network installer? My computer doesn't have a CD drive (or a
floppy disk drive), but when I try to run the network installer (off
an SD card), it boots and gets up to "Detect CD-ROM" and I
can't go any further as I don't have a CD drive
1242 [12:49:48] *** Joins: Samuel (~pi@replaced-ip )
1243 [12:49:48] <ancarda> My computer has an ethernet cable, so
should it be able to use the internet to download the components
instead? I never get that option and the installer then fails
1244 [12:49:54] <DerLGm> ancarda: first
1245 [12:49:55] <BCMM> ancarda: which image did you use?
1246 [12:50:17] <ancarda> this one:
replaced-url
1247 [12:50:31] *** Quits: Samuel (~pi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1248 [12:50:34] <DerLGm> tell us your specs, what verions and then
what tests youve ran
1249 [12:50:50] <BCMM> ancarda: so how does your SD work? is it a
USB mass storage device, or a "native" MMC device?
1250 [12:50:54] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1251 [12:51:01] <BCMM> ancarda: because afaik those images are
designed specifically for CD or USB boot
1252 [12:51:17] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1253 [12:51:27] *** Quits: DerLG (~derlg@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1254 [12:51:31] <DerLGm> wb Butt3rfly
1255 [12:51:48] <ancarda> BCMM: Er, sorry I'm not sure how to
answer that question. My computer actually runs Ubuntu -- so
I'm happy to run commands and give you some output if that
would help answer your question. I just need to reinstall
1256 [12:52:00] *** Joins: ckur13 (~ckur13@replaced-ip )
1257 [12:52:27] *** Quits: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1258 [12:52:28] <BCMM> ancarda: cool, that makes it easier - with
an sd card inserted, do you have a /dev/mmcblk0 node?
1259 [12:52:59] <BCMM> ancarda: sometimes sd cards come up like
that, sometimes they come up as just a /dev/sdX, because the reader
emulates a USB stick essentially
1260 [12:53:07] *** Quits: Jiraya_sensei (~Jiraya_se@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1261 [12:53:59] <ancarda> Yeah I see mmcblk0 (and 0p1, 0p2)
1262 [12:55:23] <ancarda> Would a USB stick be easier for the
installer? I think I have one somewhere
1263 [12:56:08] *** Joins: Maid-Chan (~UglyTrann@replaced-ip )
1264 [12:56:13] <DerLGm> BCMM: I was gunna suggest lusb but it
seems youre more on track.
1265 [12:56:21] *** Quits: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip ) (Quit: tccki)
1266 [12:56:38] *** Joins: knidos (~knidos@replaced-ip )
1267 [12:56:43] *** Joins: tccki (~tccki@replaced-ip )
1268 [12:56:46] <Maid-Chan> does the repo keep old versions of
software giving some method to download them?
1269 [12:56:52] *** Joins: lankanmon (~LKNnet@replaced-ip )
1270 [12:57:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1451
1271 [12:57:43] *** Joins: fujisan (uid4207@replaced-ip )
1272 [12:58:17] *** Joins: Schmetterwurm (~Schmetter@replaced-ip )
1273 [12:58:19] <DerLGm> Maid-Chan: im inclined to say no
1274 [12:58:48] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1275 [12:59:12] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1276 [12:59:14] *** Joins: Sri_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
1277 [13:00:42] <ancarda> BCCM: Ok, a flash drive works fine. I
guess SD cards are just weird?
1278 [13:00:44] <Maid-Chan> bummer. a tool i need is looking for
[libboost_system.so.1.58.0] but [libboost-system1.62.0] is what apt
gave me.
1279 [13:00:55] *** Joins: Qas (~Qas@replaced-ip )
1280 [13:01:34] <nogravityrush> have you tried googling that
specific package version
1281 [13:01:35] *** Quits: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1282 [13:01:44] <nogravityrush> .deb
1283 [13:01:59] *** Quits: ranzp (~anon@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ranzp)
1284 [13:02:16] <nogravityrush> you may need to get its
dependencies too
1285 [13:02:19] *** Joins: ranzpirat (~anon@replaced-ip )
1286 [13:02:21] <Maid-Chan> do i need to uninstall 1.62 before
installing 1.58 from deb if i find it?
1287 [13:02:28] <nogravityrush> yes
1288 [13:02:38] <nogravityrush> dpkg is the command
1289 [13:02:38] <dpkg> nogravityrush: i haven't a clue
1290 [13:02:52] <teatime> Maid-Chan: snapshot.debian.org, and yes
you will likely run into issues because you can only have one
version of a pacage installed at a time
1291 [13:03:11] <Maid-Chan> k. so it's either remove or
purge...still haven't figured out the difference. purge seems
more all encompassing but my reading seemed to imply it was less
nuclear so i dunno. :P
1292 [13:03:32] <teatime> remove normally keeps config files in
case you want to reinstall
1293 [13:03:36] <teatime> purge does not
1294 [13:03:46] <nogravityrush> nutclear
1295 [13:03:48] <alkisg> Maid-Chan: if you try to purge your
existing libboost-system, how many packages are going to get
removed? Try it and then press cancel.
1296 [13:04:02] <Maid-Chan> see that's what i assumed but
reading made it seem less somehow. guess i misunderstood.
1297 [13:04:24] *** Parts: Qas (~Qas@replaced-ip ) ()
1298 [13:04:29] <teatime> what tool are you trying to install/run
?
1299 [13:04:33] <Maid-Chan> by press cancel do you mean enter n?
1300 [13:04:35] *** Quits: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1301 [13:04:38] <nogravityrush> no
1302 [13:04:41] <nogravityrush> ctrl c
1303 [13:04:46] <Maid-Chan> ahh
1304 [13:04:47] *** Quits: mel00010 (~mel00010@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1305 [13:04:49] <alkisg> Maid-Chan: no, or ctrl+c, or --dry-run
1306 [13:05:01] *** Quits: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip ) (Quit: buh bye!)
1307 [13:05:25] <Maid-Chan> @teatime it's called narctool
it's for opening nintendo archives for romhacking. I'm
trying to see if i can't help with translation of
puyopuyotetris. :P
1308 [13:05:33] *** Joins: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip )
1309 [13:05:42] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
1310 [13:05:51] <nogravityrush> how are roms written
1311 [13:05:55] <nogravityrush> hex or bin?
1312 [13:06:03] *** Joins: HoloIRCUser2 (~holoirc@replaced-ip )
1313 [13:06:09] *** Joins: haventerminal (~rb@replaced-ip )
1314 [13:06:09] *** Joins: hegemon8 (~hegemon8@replaced-ip )
1315 [13:06:47] *** Quits: Cy8aer (~Cy8aer@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Coyote finally caught me)
1316 [13:06:53] <alkisg> Maid-Chan: the problem will be that a lot
of existing packages depend on your current libboost version, so to
fix 1 you'll break 10
1317 [13:07:11] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1318 [13:07:16] <alkisg> Maid-Chan: I'm guessing that 1.58
means Ubuntu Xenial, because no Debian version ships with that...
1319 [13:07:23] <alkisg> Maybe a VM would suit you better
1320 [13:07:24] <Maid-Chan> so basically use my windows laptop for
this hacking job? seems counter intuitive. :P
1321 [13:07:33] <nogravityrush> since you didnt answer my question
try breaking your pc and monmitor
1322 [13:07:37] <alkisg> Or just modify it so that it runs with
1.62
1323 [13:07:44] *** Joins: LordPraslea (~Praslea@replaced-ip )
1324 [13:07:53] <nogravityrush> jk
1325 [13:07:54] *** Quits: dema (~dema@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1326 [13:08:11] *** Joins: nog3_ (~tud3@replaced-ip )
1327 [13:08:40] <Maid-Chan> hrm that would require knowing jackall
about 1.62 or libboost in general and the code of narctool no?
1328 [13:08:42] *** Joins: dema (~dema@replaced-ip )
1329 [13:09:17] *** Joins: Cy8aer (~Cy8aer@replaced-ip )
1330 [13:09:19] <nogravityrush> man u dont have a monitor
1331 [13:09:23] <nogravityrush> jk
1332 [13:09:44] <nogravityrush> good luck
1333 [13:09:44] <Maid-Chan> nogravityrush, aren't all low
level operations done in binary which is displayed on machine as hex
because us humans couldn't handle that many 0s and 1s? :P
1334 [13:10:00] <nogravityrush> x finger for r9 390 driver install
1335 [13:10:53] *** Joins: rizzo (~RizzoTheR@replaced-ip )
1336 [13:11:07] *** Joins: audreeliss (uid207261@replaced-ip )
1337 [13:11:09] <nogravityrush> i guess cmake and makefile
bundling is a necessity
1338 [13:11:13] <nogravityrush> ty guys
1339 [13:11:17] <nogravityrush> especially dutchfish
1340 [13:11:34] <nogravityrush> i got to go to bed
1341 [13:11:41] *** Quits: ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1342 [13:11:46] <nogravityrush> wanna see the sunlight tomorrow
1343 [13:11:56] <nogravityrush> i mean later
1344 [13:12:06] <Maid-Chan> huh. the uninstall dry run wanted to
remove nothing but libboost related stuff and qbittorrent. that
doesn't seem that terrible to remove...
1345 [13:12:49] <nogravityrush> dutchfish nope it still will not
boot
1346 [13:13:15] *** Joins: Labu (~mik@replaced-ip )
1347 [13:16:21] *** Joins: bzyk (~bzyk@replaced-ip )
1348 [13:16:30] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, i reread all your
lines. Maybe you focus on a clean Debian install. Then fix the video
card problem. Those are 2 separate problems, i assume.
1349 [13:16:36] *** Joins: FraGManiA (~FraGManiA@replaced-ip )
1350 [13:16:37] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1351 [13:16:44] <nogravityrush> i did a clean install
1352 [13:16:56] *** Quits: cascadia_rising (~cascadia_@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
1353 [13:16:58] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1354 [13:17:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1459
1355 [13:17:20] *** Joins: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip )
1356 [13:17:27] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, ok. Any messages you
have seen on the boot problem?
1357 [13:17:47] <nogravityrush> no
1358 [13:17:58] <nogravityrush> i guess it is stuck on the
runlevel loading part
1359 [13:18:21] *** Joins: jerdef82 (~jerdef@replaced-ip )
1360 [13:18:26] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, it shows grub loading?
1361 [13:18:43] <nogravityrush> no
1362 [13:18:48] <nogravityrush> dmesg intro
1363 [13:19:11] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, what is the last lines
you see?
1364 [13:19:29] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1365 [13:19:48] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
1366 [13:19:50] <nogravityrush> ums error
1367 [13:19:59] <nogravityrush> no radeon module
1368 [13:20:15] <nogravityrush> i got to do nomodeset
1369 [13:20:17] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip )
1370 [13:21:30] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, that is a radeon
software load error on the proprietary software. So, this is clearly
not a clean debian install.
1371 [13:21:39] <nogravityrush> ok
1372 [13:21:58] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, you installed this
today?
1373 [13:23:04] *** Quits: vbutnaru (~vbutnaru@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1374 [13:23:53] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, hint, if you want this,
then you need atidri installed as well
1375 [13:24:04] <dutchfish> ati-dri*
1376 [13:24:35] <nogravityrush> is it nouveau causing the problem
1377 [13:24:53] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, i think the most
easiest solution is, to reinstall that debian and follow the wiki
link i gave with the opensource driver install.
1378 [13:25:09] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, i dont thnk so unless
you have such a videocard installed along
1379 [13:25:44] *** Joins: mcint (mcint@replaced-ip )
1380 [13:26:02] *** Joins: kygu (~kygu@replaced-ip )
1381 [13:26:05] *** Joins: SmashK2 (5b40100b@replaced-ip )
1382 [13:26:09] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, you cant mix opensource
video drivers with proprietary ones
1383 [13:26:12] <SmashK2> hi
1384 [13:26:49] <SmashK2> old server (dual P3 on
ASUS-server-board) won't start on Debian-9.3-i386
1385 [13:26:50] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, specially for the R9
series
1386 [13:27:07] <SmashK2> 8254 is not connected to IO-APIC
1387 [13:28:23] <nogravityrush> dutchfish will fglrx work with
that card
1388 [13:28:28] *** Joins: sothym (~sothym@replaced-ip )
1389 [13:28:52] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, i dont know, i didnt
use fglrx for ages
1390 [13:29:37] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1391 [13:29:43] *** Joins: rephlexie (~rephlexie@replaced-ip )
1392 [13:29:44] *** Joins: vbutnaru (~vbutnaru@replaced-ip )
1393 [13:29:55] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, nor did i have a need
for
1394 [13:30:01] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1395 [13:30:28] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, go opensource drivers
for that card, is all i cna say
1396 [13:30:37] <dutchfish> can*
1397 [13:31:05] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1398 [13:31:05] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, that worked for me and
probably also for you
1399 [13:31:53] *** Joins: lilabsence (~RizzoTheR@replaced-ip )
1400 [13:33:01] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
1401 [13:33:03] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1402 [13:33:25] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1403 [13:34:10] *** Joins: Kruppt (~Kruppt@replaced-ip )
1404 [13:34:11] *** Joins: Qas (~Qas@replaced-ip )
1405 [13:34:22] *** Quits: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1406 [13:34:22] <Qas> hello, lately I am frequently having this
problem: I want to open a page in a browser tab, and all I see is a
blank page with loading circle rolling at the center of it, forever.
I only need to restart browser to get rid of it.
1407 [13:34:30] <Qas> is it a known problem?
1408 [13:34:37] <Qas> firefox user
1409 [13:35:16] *** Quits: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1410 [13:35:56] *** Quits: rizzo (~RizzoTheR@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
1411 [13:36:48] *** Joins: M6HZ (~M6HZ@replaced-ip )
1412 [13:37:00] *** Joins: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip )
1413 [13:37:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1467
1414 [13:37:13] *** Joins: krytarik (~krytarik@replaced-ip )
1415 [13:38:40] *** Joins: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1416 [13:39:30] *** Joins: ruffni (~anonymous@replaced-ip )
1417 [13:39:58] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
1418 [13:40:08] *** Quits: nog3_ (~tud3@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)
1419 [13:40:15] *** Joins: freeman42x]NixOS (~freeman42@replaced-ip )
1420 [13:40:20] <nogravityrush> ok ty
1421 [13:40:26] <dutchfish> yw
1422 [13:40:43] <nogravityrush> is cinammon working with amdgpu
1423 [13:40:59] <dutchfish> sure, all major window managers work
with that
1424 [13:41:20] *** Parts: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip ) ()
1425 [13:41:49] *** Joins: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip )
1426 [13:41:51] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, and for the ice on
caking, the opensource driver for R9 are even faster sometimes ;)
1427 [13:43:07] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, specially with the very
latest kernels
1428 [13:43:22] *** lilabsence is now known as rizzo
1429 [13:43:23] *** Quits: hegemon8 (~hegemon8@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1430 [13:44:07] *** Quits: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1431 [13:44:15] <nogravityrush> how do i update the drm
1432 [13:44:49] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, you dont do that. You
normally follow the Debian repo, which provides the one you need.
1433 [13:44:57] *** Joins: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1434 [13:45:16] <nogravityrush> ok
1435 [13:45:22] <nogravityrush> it has screen tearing
1436 [13:45:26] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, if you do that you will
the ABI and alot more.
1437 [13:46:15] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, if you are really
clever and want the latest stuff, install testing. But that need
some skills to coop with the bugs.
1438 [13:46:46] *** Joins: dthpulse (~dthpulse@replaced-ip )
1439 [13:46:53] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, or just wait until it
gets released for stable.
1440 [13:46:55] *** Joins: TimJay (~tim@replaced-ip )
1441 [13:47:11] <nogravityrush> ok
1442 [13:47:16] *** Quits: sorin-mihai (equinox@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1443 [13:47:20] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, i have no screen
tearing in Stable fyi
1444 [13:47:28] <nogravityrush> how do i properly uninstall a
kernel entry in grub
1445 [13:47:31] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, but i admit that took
some tweaking.
1446 [13:47:35] <nogravityrush> plus its files and what not
1447 [13:47:53] <nogravityrush> ty
1448 [13:48:48] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, normally, if you
manually installed a kernel. First boot into the stock kernel the
use dpkg --remove [your non-stock kernel] as it is listed by dpkg -l
| grep linux-
1449 [13:48:54] *** Quits: k_sze[work] (~Kira@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1450 [13:49:22] *** Joins: k_sze[work] (~Kira@replaced-ip )
1451 [13:49:57] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, apropos, giving some
more information the next time you have a problem, makes it alot
easier to give adequate support. (logs)
1452 [13:50:38] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, i still don't own
a crystal ball ;)
1453 [13:51:02] <dutchfish> nogravityrush, good luck
1454 [13:52:16] *** Quits: Thominus (~Thominus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1455 [13:52:27] *** Quits: jeddi (~jedd@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1456 [13:52:39] <nogravityrush> i love u dutchfish
1457 [13:52:58] *** Joins: Thominus (~Thominus@replaced-ip )
1458 [13:53:10] *** Joins: sorin-mihai (equinox@replaced-ip )
1459 [13:53:12] <Maid-Chan> can windows command line applications
be run on linux in some way? like does wine have a CLI side or
anything like that?
1460 [13:53:29] *** Joins: jeddi (~jedd@replaced-ip )
1461 [13:53:46] *** Quits: Thominus (~Thominus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1462 [13:53:47] *** Quits: dthpulse (~dthpulse@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1463 [13:58:13] *** Quits: Anarchic (~Anarchic@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
1464 [13:58:29] *** Quits: coruja (coruja@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1465 [13:59:17] *** Joins: Anarchic (~Anarchic@replaced-ip )
1466 [13:59:27] <nogravityrush> lol i guess the what is linux
image rt
1467 [13:59:58] *** Joins: root (~root@replaced-ip )
1468 [14:00:17] *** Quits: ckur13 (~ckur13@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1469 [14:00:22] *** root is now known as Guest11359
1470 [14:01:46] *** Joins: coruja (coruja@replaced-ip )
1471 [14:02:10] *** Quits: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1472 [14:02:41] *** Joins: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip )
1473 [14:02:45] <nogravityrush> time to learn cmake and makefile
1474 [14:02:46] <nogravityrush> ;
1475 [14:02:47] *** Quits: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1476 [14:02:59] <BCMM> Maid-Chan: yes, wine works with command
line programs
1477 [14:03:01] <nogravityrush> (ty
1478 [14:03:18] <BCMM> Maid-Chan: however, bear in mind that wine
doesn't work perfectly with *every* program
1479 [14:03:24] <Qas> hello, lately I am frequently having this
problem: I want to open a page in a browser tab, and all I see is a
blank page with loading circle rolling at the center of it, forever.
I only need to restart browser to get rid of it.
1480 [14:03:27] <Qas> is it a known problem?
1481 [14:03:29] <Qas> firefox user
1482 [14:03:47] <BCMM> Maid-Chan: also, wine is for
"real" win32 applications. if it's actually a .net
executable, you can use mono
1483 [14:04:07] <Qas> and once it starts with a tab, it spreads to
all tabs. all open pages and the newly opened ones in the browser
window look as described above
1484 [14:04:26] <abrotman> a picture might help
1485 [14:04:34] <BCMM> Maid-Chan:
replaced-url
1486 [14:04:48] <abrotman> Qas: which version of FF and which
version of Linux?
1487 [14:06:46] <BCMM> Qas: is the system under heavy load? either
cpu or ram?
1488 [14:06:48] *** Joins: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip )
1489 [14:06:51] *** Joins: luckman212 (~luckman21@replaced-ip )
1490 [14:07:17] <BCMM> Qas: i think that's what firefox
usually does when it's unloaded background tabs to save
resources
1491 [14:11:41] <Qas> abrotman, firefox 52.6.0., Linux
4.9.0-5-amd64
1492 [14:11:55] <Qas> BCMM, no, it is for sure nut under heavy
load.
1493 [14:12:17] <Qas> not*
1494 [14:12:35] *** Quits: dasj (~daniel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1495 [14:13:07] <Qas> I guess 11 tabs cant be heavy load
1496 [14:15:12] *** Quits: LordPraslea (~Praslea@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1497 [14:15:24] *** Joins: MichaelOF (~michael@replaced-ip )
1498 [14:16:09] <Qas> it's like the browser gets locked. any
more pages on new tab or window dont get opened.
1499 [14:16:50] *** Joins: Sokol (~Sokol@replaced-ip )
1500 [14:17:11] <nogravityrush> what is build-essentials
equivalent to in debian
1501 [14:17:35] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1502 [14:17:36] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1503 [14:17:37] <bitess> build-essential
1504 [14:17:58] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1505 [14:18:47] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1506 [14:18:52] <bitess> Qas: running out of memory?
1507 [14:18:54] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1508 [14:19:07] *** Joins: smurfd (~smurfd@replaced-ip )
1509 [14:19:27] <Qas> bitess, I have enough physical memory on the
machine
1510 [14:19:42] *** Joins: corretico_ (~corretico@replaced-ip )
1511 [14:19:51] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1512 [14:20:03] <abrotman> disable JS?
1513 [14:20:08] *** Joins: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
1514 [14:20:16] *** Joins: gtranxuan (~user@replaced-ip )
1515 [14:20:28] *** Joins: HoloIRCUser4 (~holoirc@replaced-ip )
1516 [14:21:09] <Qas> abrotman, I might have tried that indeed,
but I will do it next time it happens. I've just restarted
browser and it's out of the way for now.
1517 [14:21:25] <Qas> thank you all for your help!
1518 [14:22:50] *** Quits: Guest11359 (~root@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1519 [14:23:06] *** Quits: HoloIRCUser2 (~holoirc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1520 [14:23:27] *** Joins: Guest11359 (~root@replaced-ip )
1521 [14:23:48] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1522 [14:23:53] <teatime> Qas: I beleive I have seen the same
behavior
1523 [14:24:15] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1524 [14:24:20] *** Quits: Guest11359 (~root@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1525 [14:24:37] *** Joins: grizzly_ (~grizzly@replaced-ip )
1526 [14:24:53] *** Joins: Guest11359 (~root@replaced-ip )
1527 [14:24:53] *** Quits: Vizva (~Vizva@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1528 [14:25:23] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
1529 [14:25:59] *** Joins: eamanu (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1530 [14:27:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1475
1531 [14:27:39] *** Joins: dasj (~daniel@replaced-ip )
1532 [14:27:55] *** Joins: frju365[IRC] (~frju365@replaced-ip )
1533 [14:27:55] *** Quits: frju365[IRC] (~frju365@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1534 [14:27:55] *** Joins: frju365[IRC] (~frju365@replaced-ip )
1535 [14:28:39] <Qas> teatime, interesting have you been able to
solve it or come across to a solution?
1536 [14:31:58] *** Quits: eamanu (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: eamanu)
1537 [14:33:05] *** Quits: gtranxuan (~user@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1538 [14:33:31] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1539 [14:33:55] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
1540 [14:34:12] *** Joins: OS-35900 (~OS-35900@replaced-ip )
1541 [14:34:45] *** Quits: OS-35900 (~OS-35900@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1542 [14:34:45] *** Joins: OS-35900 (~OS-35900@replaced-ip )
1543 [14:35:39] *** Joins: kisslo__ (~kisslo@replaced-ip )
1544 [14:37:52] *** Joins: cariveri (~tell@replaced-ip )
1545 [14:38:41] *** Quits: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1546 [14:38:54] *** Joins: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip )
1547 [14:39:27] *** Quits: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1548 [14:39:40] <cariveri> Hi. I have got a VM with Debian wheezy
on it. How to forward supportmail@mydomain.com -->
other@mailservice.com ?
1549 [14:39:52] <teatime> Qas: no.
1550 [14:40:14] *** Quits: grizzly_ (~grizzly@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1551 [14:40:47] *** kisslo__ is now known as kisslo
1552 [14:40:48] <vlt> cariveri: How are these two things related?
1553 [14:41:34] <cariveri> vlt: well, its a standard serve cofnig
I think inside of debian, not?
1554 [14:41:43] <cariveri> *server config
1555 [14:42:06] *** Joins: zaM- (~zaM-@replaced-ip )
1556 [14:42:25] *** Joins: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip )
1557 [14:42:37] <vlt> cariveri: We don’t know as long as you
don’t tell us. That’s why I asked.
1558 [14:44:18] <cariveri> vlt: what do you want to know, I
already tried my best to answer.
1559 [14:45:34] <vlt> cariveri: I want to know how a VM running
Debian and an email to be forwarded are connected.
1560 [14:47:41] *** Quits: Sabotender (~Sabotende@replaced-ip ) (Quit: 1000 Needles!)
1561 [14:47:51] *** Quits: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1562 [14:48:15] *** Joins: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip )
1563 [14:49:59] <jelly> cariveri, is mail service for your domain
hosted on this VM?
1564 [14:50:06] <Qas> thank you all for your help, bye!
1565 [14:50:28] *** Joins: N3V3RM1^D (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1566 [14:50:56] *** Quits: kisslo (~kisslo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1567 [14:51:15] *** Joins: Sabotender (~Sabotende@replaced-ip )
1568 [14:52:57] *** Quits: corretico_ (~corretico@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1569 [14:55:47] *** Parts: JohnA (~john@replaced-ip ) ("Leaving")
1570 [14:55:57] *** Joins: JohnA (~john@replaced-ip )
1571 [14:56:05] *** Joins: Rosco2 (~RossGammo@replaced-ip )
1572 [14:56:32] *** Quits: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1573 [14:57:13] *** Joins: ergocano (~CLDM|virt@replaced-ip )
1574 [14:58:57] *** Joins: yemel (~yemel@replaced-ip )
1575 [14:58:57] *** Quits: yemel (~yemel@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1576 [14:58:57] *** Joins: yemel (~yemel@replaced-ip )
1577 [14:59:03] *** Parts: ergocano (~CLDM|virt@replaced-ip ) ()
1578 [14:59:33] *** Parts: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip ) ()
1579 [14:59:52] *** Quits: haventerminal (~rb@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
1580 [15:00:12] <cariveri> jelly: there is nothing at all. just a
the debian server: webserver, exim4/sendmail et.c. but mails are
supposed to be "received" and redirected to a real mail
provider. sofar I dont need a mail server installed here.
1581 [15:00:30] *** Joins: corretico_ (~corretico@replaced-ip )
1582 [15:01:03] <jelly> cariveri, such a forward has to be set up
at the mail provider.
1583 [15:01:27] <jelly> anything else is just hackery
1584 [15:01:32] *** Joins: ChunkzZ1 (uid233645@replaced-ip )
1585 [15:01:54] *** Joins: adoua (~adoua@replaced-ip )
1586 [15:01:58] <jelly> (like getting new messages via imap or
pop3 then resending them)
1587 [15:02:27] *** Joins: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip )
1588 [15:02:27] <cariveri> jelly: at the mail provider? what? that
really sounds upside down.
1589 [15:02:28] *** Joins: bigbad (~bigbadclo@replaced-ip )
1590 [15:02:38] *** Quits: ruffni (~anonymous@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ruffni)
1591 [15:02:42] <abrotman> cariveri: is your system currently
accepting messages for "yourdomain.com" from the internet?
1592 [15:04:07] <cariveri> abrotman: I did not configured that way
no. but as I took over a machine from someone else I cannot be
completely sure about al the configs made.
1593 [15:04:17] <bigbad> hey guys
1594 [15:04:23] *** Quits: bitlan (~mrzegocki@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1595 [15:04:35] <abrotman> cariveri: so you want to just send mail
to another host? Are you going to change the rcpt?
1596 [15:04:45] <jelly> cariveri, not really, forwards are done
either at MDA or at MTA level, and both are components that run
where the mail is actually hosted.
1597 [15:05:05] <cariveri> abrotman: still I think the vmhosting
provider added something like an mx record.
1598 [15:05:28] *** Quits: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1599 [15:05:40] *** Joins: hegemon8 (~hegemon8@replaced-ip )
1600 [15:05:58] <jelly> an MX record would mean all mail for your
domain should be delivered to whatever system the MX record pointed
to
1601 [15:06:49] *** Quits: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Splash, leaving the bowl)
1602 [15:07:29] <MichaelOF> carivery: do you maybe mean
"VPS" instead of "VM"? is the "VM"
running at a hosting company or @home?
1603 [15:07:36] *** Joins: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
1604 [15:07:38] <jelly> cariveri, install dnsutils. Pastebin the
output of "dig your-domain-here MX" and "dig
your-domain-here A". Please do not hide the domain name.
1605 [15:07:39] *** Quits: bigbad (~bigbadclo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1606 [15:07:43] *** Quits: Guest11359 (~root@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1607 [15:08:08] *** Joins: bigbad (~bigbadclo@replaced-ip )
1608 [15:08:42] *** Quits: bigbad (~bigbadclo@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1609 [15:08:51] *** Parts: hegemon8 (~hegemon8@replaced-ip ) ()
1610 [15:09:02] <abrotman> I mean, why not just setup a .forward
or /etc/aliases ?
1611 [15:09:20] <jelly> because the Debian machine is not his MX
1612 [15:09:22] <abrotman> Unless I'm misunderstanding his
question
1613 [15:09:35] <abrotman> jelly: that may not actually matter ..
1614 [15:09:37] <jelly> it's just a debian machine somewhere.
1615 [15:09:54] <abrotman> cariveri: or just tell us the actual
domain you're using
1616 [15:10:32] *** Joins: Santa_Muerte (~Santa_Mue@replaced-ip )
1617 [15:10:35] <jelly> <cariveri> Hi. I have got a VM with
Debian wheezy on it. How to forward supportmail@mydomain.com -->
other@mailservice.com ?
1618 [15:10:39] *** Joins: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip )
1619 [15:10:45] <jelly> how might it not matter?
1620 [15:11:09] *** Joins: corretico__ (~corretico@replaced-ip )
1621 [15:11:47] <jelly> aliases or .forward have to be configured
on the actual mx
1622 [15:11:53] <antoszka> cariveri: set up the MX for
`mydomain.com` so that it points at `mailservice.com` so that it
accepts mail for
1623 [15:12:01] <antoszka> sorry
1624 [15:12:19] <abrotman> jelly: it could be local delivery, and
trying to forward that elsewhere
1625 [15:12:28] <antoszka> cariveri: set up the MX for
`mydomain.com` so that it points at `mailservice.com`'s mail
server and configure that server so that it accepts mail for
`mydomain.com` and a virtual alias for the addresses
1626 [15:12:30] <abrotman> antoszka: you don't know that will
work ...
1627 [15:12:42] <jelly> <jelly> cariveri, is mail service
for your domain hosted on this VM? <cariveri> jelly: there is
nothing at all. just a the debian server: webserver, exim4/sendmail
et.c. but mails are supposed to be "received" and
redirected to a real mail provider. sofar I dont need a mail server
installed here.
1628 [15:12:44] <abrotman> "mailservice.com" would have
to be willing to accept for "vaguedomain.com"
1629 [15:12:48] <jelly> abrotman, ^^ that sounds like
"no"
1630 [15:13:01] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip )
1631 [15:13:32] *** Quits: corretico_ (~corretico@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1632 [15:14:07] <jelly> and if other@mailservice.com is gmail,
there are other workarounds that gmail prefers now instead of
forwards
1633 [15:14:30] *** Joins: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip )
1634 [15:14:34] <abrotman> so much vague
1635 [15:15:27] *** Quits: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1636 [15:16:00] <jelly> I usually just refuse providing free help
if user messes with debug info. They can get my hourly rate if they
want to be kept private
1637 [15:16:10] *** Joins: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip )
1638 [15:16:42] <hexnewbie> Where does journald store its journal
in Debian by default? I just loaded mc and it created 2GiB of logs
there. I deleted the syslog ones, but journalctl still displays
them. What/how to delete them?
1639 [15:16:53] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1640 [15:17:07] <jelly> and hourly rate right now gets a Sunday
afternoon 2x factor
1641 [15:17:25] <MichaelOF> hexnewbie: not sure but doesn't
logrotate do this?
1642 [15:17:56] <hexnewbie> MichaelOF: I don't see
systemd/journald stuff in /etc/logrotate.d
1643 [15:18:05] <jelly> hexnewbie, first question:
/run/log/journal
1644 [15:18:13] <hexnewbie> jelly: Ah, thank you :)
1645 [15:18:27] <MichaelOF> hexnewbie: that's a valid
argument against my idea :-)
1646 [15:18:29] <jelly> hexnewbie, that's on tmpfs by default
and does not get saved
1647 [15:18:56] <hexnewbie> Meh, it's just 24 MiB. Will keep
it. I guess binary logs have an advantage over 4 copies in syslog,
messages, user.log and one other
1648 [15:19:07] <hexnewbie> 4 text copies, at that
1649 [15:19:15] <MichaelOF> I'll be quiet now, although
I'm cheaper than jelly :-)
1650 [15:19:23] <jelly> hexnewbie, syslog and journal keep
separate logs. journal can (and does) format some stuff to syslog
1651 [15:19:39] <jelly> s/format/forward/
1652 [15:20:13] <jelly> hexnewbie, fix your syslog configuration
if you have 4 copies of crap
1653 [15:20:18] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip )
1654 [15:20:23] <hexnewbie> jelly: Well, it does. So when mc DoSed
my logs, I got 4 copies in rsyslog logs, and 1 in journal. I
mistakenly thought the journal one would be as big as the other ones
(which totalled to 1.6GiB by the time I killed mc)
1655 [15:20:49] *** Joins: nashimus1 (~nashimus@replaced-ip )
1656 [15:20:59] <hexnewbie> jelly: I believe I'm using
Debian's default rsyslog configuration.
1657 [15:21:04] <jelly> and remember to tell rsyslog to reopen log
files after manually wiping thme
1658 [15:21:21] <jelly> hexnewbie, yes, Debian's default
rsyslog configuration is crap
1659 [15:21:23] *** Quits: t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1660 [15:21:59] <jelly> it logs most of *.* to two files
1661 [15:22:07] <hexnewbie> jelly: Restarted it for good measure
:) And yeah, I do disable multiple logs on systems that do produce a
lot of messages for that exact reason.
1662 [15:22:36] <nashimus1> I'm trying to use X11 forwarding
over SSH and I have made to enable the settings that this post on
stack exchange has indicated:
replaced-url
1663 [15:22:46] <hexnewbie> jelly: I hope this mc thing on my
desktop is a one-time thing, though. Thanks for your help
1664 [15:22:57] <nashimus1> however, when I connect with SSH and
-X, it's it's still just a terminal
1665 [15:23:03] <jelly> also bad: separation by priority for mail,
and disabled cron.*
1666 [15:23:33] <teatime> nashimus1: have you tried running a
graphical app like xterm or xeyes from that terminal?
1667 [15:23:35] <hexnewbie> nashimus1: Well, it is a terminal. You
have to run a X program in it.
1668 [15:23:36] <jelly> nashimus1, what is still just a terminal?
1669 [15:23:46] *** Joins: t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@replaced-ip )
1670 [15:23:55] <hexnewbie> nashimus1: You don't expect your
terminal to suddenly turn into a GUI desktop, do you? :)
1671 [15:24:12] <nashimus1> :(
1672 [15:24:14] <nashimus1> lol
1673 [15:24:17] <nashimus1> that works
1674 [15:24:20] <nashimus1> I'm a newb
1675 [15:24:58] <nashimus1> Never seen it used before, so I did in
fact expect an actual xserver lol
1676 [15:25:01] <nashimus1> xD
1677 [15:25:15] <hexnewbie> nashimus1: Also, as Debian 9 Stretch
is now using Qt 5, X forwarding is no longer usable for Qt programs
(unless very on fast network)
1678 [15:25:35] <nashimus1> thanks :D
1679 [15:25:45] *** Joins: osro (~osro@replaced-ip )
1680 [15:26:24] <hexnewbie> So it's more or less GTK+2/3 and
lesser known toolkits-only (with the exception of Firefox, which
requires config changes to work)
1681 [15:27:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1482
1682 [15:28:02] *** Quits: l3archos (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: l3archos)
1683 [15:28:53] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
1684 [15:30:05] *** Quits: inaki (~inaki@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1685 [15:30:16] *** Quits: totonika (~toto@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1686 [15:31:19] *** Quits: dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: dionysus69)
1687 [15:32:02] *** Joins: silverhom (~silverhom@replaced-ip )
1688 [15:32:29] *** Joins: totonika (~toto@replaced-ip )
1689 [15:32:32] *** Quits: nogravityrush (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My Mac Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1690 [15:32:54] *** Quits: sorin-mihai (equinox@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1691 [15:33:22] *** Joins: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip )
1692 [15:33:28] <c0r4nn> hello ; i have problem for install steam
in debian , msg error " you are missing the folowing 32 bit
library , and steam may not run : libGL.so.1 libdrm.so.2 can i do?
1693 [15:34:09] <Maid-Chan> @BCMM, thanx. i dunno if it's
.net probably not. it seems to be an archive extracting/compressing
tool so i doubt .net would be needed. sorry for delay in reply. was
upstairs.
1694 [15:34:13] <jelly> ,v steam
1695 [15:34:14] <judd> No package named 'steam' was
found in amd64.
1696 [15:34:18] <jelly> ,v steam:i386
1697 [15:34:19] <judd> No package named 'steam:i386' was
found in amd64.
1698 [15:34:28] <jelly> ,v steam --arch i386
1699 [15:34:29] <judd> Package: steam on i386 -- jessie/non-free:
1.0.0.49-1; stretch/non-free: 1.0.0.54-2; buster/non-free:
1.0.0.54-5; sid/non-free: 1.0.0.54-5
1700 [15:34:34] <nkuttler> c0r4nn: how did you install it?
1701 [15:34:37] *** Joins: inaki (~inaki@replaced-ip )
1702 [15:34:41] <jelly> c0r4nn, how are you installing it?
1703 [15:35:11] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1704 [15:35:27] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
1705 [15:35:29] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
1706 [15:35:38] *** Quits: rizzo (~RizzoTheR@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1707 [15:35:57] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
1708 [15:35:59] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
1709 [15:36:18] <nkuttler> !steam
1710 [15:36:18] <dpkg> Steam is a proprietary content delivery and
management application for PC software with Linux support. Packaged
in <non-free>; amd64 users are required to enable
<multiarch> and install the steam:i386 package. For help with
upstream issues, ask #steamlug on irc.freenode.net.
replaced-url
1711 [15:36:22] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
1712 [15:36:24] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
1713 [15:36:47] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
1714 [15:36:49] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
1715 [15:36:55] *** Joins: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
1716 [15:37:46] *** Quits: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1717 [15:39:28] *** Quits: Kruppt (~Kruppt@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1718 [15:40:50] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1719 [15:40:50] *** Quits: HoloIRCUser4 (~holoirc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1720 [15:41:03] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
1721 [15:41:05] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
1722 [15:41:47] *** Quits: hikiko (~hikiko@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1723 [15:43:18] *** Joins: Andocromn (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1724 [15:44:12] <JohnA> why, when configuring a system (in my case
server) server does the debian installer allocate huge amounts of
storage to home.
1725 [15:44:16] *** Quits: Levure (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1726 [15:45:07] <teatime> once you have a certain amount of
storage, it's the only place that might reasonably forsee
significant future use
1727 [15:45:35] *** Quits: Andocromn_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1728 [15:45:39] *** Joins: Informant (~Informant@replaced-ip )
1729 [15:46:03] <teatime> but you can feel free to make it
smaller, and leave free space on your drive, or I usually use LVM
1730 [15:47:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1475
1731 [15:47:18] *** Quits: uNmowed (~Kaede@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1732 [15:48:12] *** Joins: mawesi (~mawesi@replaced-ip )
1733 [15:48:31] <JohnA> teatime, 1) I suppose that reasonable. 2)
how "easy"is LVM to use on server?
1734 [15:48:42] <JohnA> mc
1735 [15:49:03] <teatime> it's pretty easy/handy in general
1736 [15:49:04] *** Quits: cptmarvel (~cptmarvel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1737 [15:49:05] *** Joins: tboston (~tboston@replaced-ip )
1738 [15:49:10] *** Joins: waboose (~waboose@replaced-ip )
1739 [15:49:32] *** Quits: rephlexie (~rephlexie@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1740 [15:50:05] <teatime> it's easier to setup via CLI than
using the debian installer to set it up
1741 [15:50:05] *** Quits: Informant (~Informant@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1742 [15:50:45] *** Joins: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip )
1743 [15:51:06] <teatime> tbh, if that gives you can idea. the
command names are logical, pv* operates on physical volumes, vg*
operates on volume groups, lv* operates on logical volumes.
1744 [15:51:32] *** Joins: rovonovo_zoro (uid229900@replaced-ip )
1745 [15:52:39] *** Joins: Big_Aziz (~azizhon@replaced-ip )
1746 [15:52:55] <teatime> in particular it's nice to be able
to lvextend then resize2fs any volume that needs extra space, online
1747 [15:53:08] <teatime> and without messing with physical
partition tables
1748 [15:54:19] <BCMM> Maid-Chan: if you know what archive or
compression format it works on, you might be able to find a native
tool that does the same
1749 [15:54:39] *** Quits: Big_Aziz (~azizhon@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1750 [15:54:42] *** Joins: User756 (~androirc@replaced-ip )
1751 [15:54:59] *** Joins: Big_Aziz (~azizhon@replaced-ip )
1752 [15:56:03] <BCMM> Maid-Chan: also, i wouldn't assume
that a particular level of complexity decides whether something
"needs" .net
1753 [15:56:12] *** Joins: zophyx (~zophyx@replaced-ip )
1754 [15:56:12] *** Joins: Informant (~Informant@replaced-ip )
1755 [15:56:22] <BCMM> Maid-Chan: it would generally be down to
whether the developer prefers working in C++ or C#
1756 [15:56:31] *** Quits: clownface (~domul@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1757 [15:56:43] <User756> (User756) Hi, I can find someone here
who could help me with connect to internet via Network Manager? I
have Debian 9 installed with GNOME. The problem is that I have a
modem Huawei E5220 (Mobile Wi-Fi), but when I connect a modem via
USB, Network Manager does not detect my modem. Of course I know I
should use usb_modeswitch which does not help. I can connect to the
internet only by typing dhclient <interface wwan> in the
terminal. I
1758 [15:57:27] *** Quits: Rosco2 (~RossGammo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1759 [15:58:31] *** Joins: konna44 (~qwe@replaced-ip )
1760 [15:59:51] *** Quits: zophyx (~zophyx@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1761 [16:00:03] <konna44> hello, I can't find Avidemux from
repos. Is it just because no one is willing to pack and maintain it
there?
1762 [16:00:38] *** Quits: nymony (~nymony@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1763 [16:00:52] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
1764 [16:01:12] <BCMM> konna44: strange. what version of debian
are you on?
1765 [16:01:13] <annadane> probably... this stuff is basically all
volunteer
1766 [16:01:21] <annadane> ,v avidemux
1767 [16:01:22] <judd> Package: avidemux on amd64 --
wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.5.6-dmo6+deb7u1; jessie-multimedia:
1:2.6.8-dmo8; stretch-multimedia: 1:2.6.20-dmo3; buster-multimedia:
1:2.7.0-dmo8; sid-multimedia: 1:2.7.0-dmo8
1768 [16:01:25] <annadane> ah
1769 [16:01:26] <konna44> Stretch
1770 [16:01:33] <BCMM> konna44: oh, looks like it's in deb
multimedia
1771 [16:01:43] <konna44> is it "official"?
1772 [16:01:56] <BCMM> konna44: deb-multimedia is very much not
"official"
1773 [16:02:14] *** Joins: asdffd09asdf (~inet@replaced-ip )
1774 [16:02:26] <asdffd09asdf> exit
1775 [16:02:29] *** Quits: asdffd09asdf (~inet@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1776 [16:02:35] <User756> Can someone help me? :(
1777 [16:02:36] *** Joins: vmg3 (~parker@replaced-ip )
1778 [16:03:21] *** Joins: OS-35082 (~OS-35082@replaced-ip )
1779 [16:04:06] *** Parts: OS-35082 (~OS-35082@replaced-ip ) ()
1780 [16:04:18] *** Joins: OS-35082 (~OS-35082@replaced-ip )
1781 [16:04:32] *** Quits: totonika (~toto@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1782 [16:04:35] *** Parts: OS-35082 (~OS-35082@replaced-ip ) ()
1783 [16:04:35] *** Quits: apus (~apus@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1784 [16:04:50] *** Joins: ChmEarl (~chmearl@replaced-ip )
1785 [16:05:11] <User756> Or how can I inform NetworkManager that
I am connected to the internet?
1786 [16:05:24] *** Quits: stwalkerster (stwalkerst@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1787 [16:05:37] *** Joins: Thargoid (stwalkerst@replaced-ip )
1788 [16:06:33] *** Joins: totonika (~toto@replaced-ip )
1789 [16:10:30] <MichaelOF> how are you connected? :-)
1790 [16:11:07] *** Joins: Mi5ter (~Mi5ter@replaced-ip )
1791 [16:11:48] <konna44> hm
1792 [16:12:07] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
1793 [16:12:20] <konna44> what do Debian developers and
maintainers think about deb-multimedia? is it "good"?
1794 [16:12:21] *** Quits: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1795 [16:12:26] *** Quits: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip ) ()
1796 [16:12:27] <User756> When I type dhclient wwan0 I can connect
to internet but gnome settings inform me that Im offline
1797 [16:12:37] <konna44> i could compile Avidemux from source as
well...
1798 [16:13:02] <User756> And I can not use sync with a Google
account
1799 [16:13:03] *** Joins: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip )
1800 [16:13:17] <User756> And options that require a connection do
not work :(
1801 [16:13:25] *** Joins: tomkheops (~tomkheops@replaced-ip )
1802 [16:13:40] *** Quits: hexnewbie (~hexnewbie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1803 [16:13:53] *** Quits: inaki (~inaki@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1804 [16:15:27] <User756> @MichaelOF you can help me?
1805 [16:15:30] <MichaelOF> User756: you're using wifi or
ethernet? @home behind a router, or mobile?
1806 [16:15:34] *** Quits: Andocromn (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1807 [16:16:11] *** Joins: apus (~apus@replaced-ip )
1808 [16:16:19] *** Joins: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip )
1809 [16:16:20] <User756> A 3G modem which is a portable wifi
router but should work via a USB cable
1810 [16:16:38] *** Joins: Andocromn (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1811 [16:16:52] <User756> There is a special connection
application on Windows
1812 [16:16:54] *** Quits: fujisan (uid4207@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1813 [16:17:09] *** Parts: tomkheops (~tomkheops@replaced-ip ) ("WeeChat 1.4")
1814 [16:17:09] *** Joins: Cogitabundus (~NOBODY@replaced-ip )
1815 [16:17:30] <MichaelOF> User756: maybe this issue, although
very old?
replaced-url
1816 [16:17:31] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
1817 [16:17:51] *** Joins: inaki (~inaki@replaced-ip )
1818 [16:17:53] *** Quits: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1819 [16:18:31] <MichaelOF> User756: have you tried to connect via
wifi instead of USB?
1820 [16:18:49] *** Quits: Informant (~Informant@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1821 [16:18:49] *** Joins: BrainDommage (~BrainDomm@replaced-ip )
1822 [16:19:58] <User756> MichaelOF: I currently do not have a
Wi-Fi network card in my computer. If I can not do anything about
buying something
1823 [16:20:53] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1824 [16:21:26] <MichaelOF> ok. do you see wwan0 in network
manager?
1825 [16:22:25] *** Joins: blackes__ (~blackest_@replaced-ip )
1826 [16:22:39] <User756> How can I check it? ip a shows me wwan
[numbers] when I connect the router, but nmcli does not
1827 [16:22:43] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1828 [16:23:02] <User756> Modem*
1829 [16:23:52] *** Joins: RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1830 [16:24:08] <MichaelOF> network mgr in the gnome gui?
1831 [16:25:06] <User756> It does not show me the "Mobile
broadband" tab
1832 [16:25:12] *** Quits: blackest_mamba (~blackest_@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1833 [16:26:51] <User756> Sometimes I will show in random moments,
but it works very strangely
1834 [16:27:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1481
1835 [16:27:51] *** Joins: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
1836 [16:28:43] <User756> I tried to find a way to show this tab
but I could not
1837 [16:30:00] *** Joins: hexnewbie (~hexnewbie@replaced-ip )
1838 [16:30:24] <MichaelOF> User756: I'm out for this, sorry
1839 [16:30:35] *** Quits: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1840 [16:30:40] *** Quits: kriger (~norge@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1841 [16:31:36] *** Quits: deicide- (~deicide-@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1842 [16:32:55] *** Quits: User756 (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1843 [16:33:04] *** Joins: winem_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1844 [16:34:47] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1845 [16:35:49] *** Quits: Big_Aziz (~azizhon@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8)
1846 [16:36:00] *** Joins: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip )
1847 [16:36:57] *** Quits: LostSoul (~LostSoul@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1848 [16:37:25] *** Quits: waboose (~waboose@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1849 [16:38:03] *** Joins: deicide- (~deicide-@replaced-ip )
1850 [16:38:15] *** Joins: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip )
1851 [16:38:58] *** Joins: LostSoul (~LostSoul@replaced-ip )
1852 [16:40:42] *** Joins: bigbad (~bigbadclo@replaced-ip )
1853 [16:40:51] *** Quits: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1854 [16:41:14] *** Joins: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip )
1855 [16:41:20] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
1856 [16:41:54] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1857 [16:42:10] <bigbad> hey guys dose any one know a good online
proxy list for brute sploit ?
1858 [16:43:06] <annadane> if you have to ask people how to hack
maybe you shouldn't be hacking
1859 [16:43:14] <metastable> s/maybe//
1860 [16:43:30] <bigbad> what ?
1861 [16:43:36] *** Joins: oojacobo_ (~oojacoboo@replaced-ip )
1862 [16:44:04] <annadane> this is a debian support channel and as
such not really a place for that question
1863 [16:44:27] <bigbad> oh sir got it
1864 [16:47:33] *** Quits: flugger (~flug@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1865 [16:48:22] *** Joins: kriger (~norge@replaced-ip )
1866 [16:48:54] *** Joins: st-gourichon-f (~Stephane@replaced-ip )
1867 [16:49:10] *** Quits: st-gourichon-fid (~Stephane@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1868 [16:49:41] *** Joins: oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@replaced-ip )
1869 [16:49:50] *** Quits: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1870 [16:50:16] *** Quits: K0JIbKA (~K0JIbKA@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1871 [16:51:23] *** Parts: bigbad (~bigbadclo@replaced-ip ) ("Leaving")
1872 [16:51:54] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
1873 [16:52:19] *** Quits: oojacobo_ (~oojacoboo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1874 [16:52:28] *** Joins: flugger (~flug@replaced-ip )
1875 [16:53:32] *** Joins: corretico_ (~corretico@replaced-ip )
1876 [16:54:00] *** Parts: konna44 (~qwe@replaced-ip ) ()
1877 [16:55:53] *** Quits: corretico__ (~corretico@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1878 [16:56:31] *** Joins: Thominus (~Thominus@replaced-ip )
1879 [16:56:34] *** Joins: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip )
1880 [16:56:34] *** Joins: olafout (~chloubs@replaced-ip )
1881 [16:57:38] <olafout> hi , i try to use gdb to
"dump" all Class Struct Enum Vtable from an .Elf file with
Dwarf debug info on it
1882 [16:57:50] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1883 [16:58:01] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip )
1884 [16:58:09] <olafout> gdb ptype type do the job , but i'v
to know first the type name
1885 [16:58:21] <olafout> do you know a way / tool to dump thems
all
1886 [16:59:29] *** Quits: flugger (~flug@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1887 [17:00:00] *** Joins: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip )
1888 [17:00:05] *** Quits: Guest38112 (~XRule@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1889 [17:01:27] *** Quits: Cogitabundus (~NOBODY@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1890 [17:01:54] *** Joins: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip )
1891 [17:03:23] *** Quits: Typhon (~Typhon@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1892 [17:04:10] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
1893 [17:04:33] *** Joins: flugger (~flug@replaced-ip )
1894 [17:04:33] *** Quits: flugger (~flug@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1895 [17:04:33] *** Joins: flugger (~flug@replaced-ip )
1896 [17:08:03] *** Quits: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1897 [17:09:15] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1898 [17:09:29] *** Joins: Jhil (~34083@replaced-ip )
1899 [17:09:33] *** Quits: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1900 [17:11:16] *** Quits: c0r4nn (~corann@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1901 [17:11:21] <rant> I could really use an app where I can flip
through images like eye of mate or eye of gnome and use two keys one
to go to the next image and one to delete and go to the next image,
without any sort of confirmation dialog.. anyone know of such a
thing or do I gotta make something?
1902 [17:11:48] *** Joins: ww_ (~ww@replaced-ip )
1903 [17:12:29] <rant> be it taking multiple photos you get ones
that are blurry or such and I just want to easily flip through and
delete em
1904 [17:12:57] *** Quits: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1905 [17:14:06] <rant> oh nm.. EOG/EOM does do this.. its just not
in the menu.. heh
1906 [17:14:59] <rant> using left and delete isnt ideal but
it'll work :P
1907 [17:15:48] *** Joins: Discovery (~Discovery@replaced-ip )
1908 [17:16:12] *** Joins: edju (~edju@replaced-ip )
1909 [17:16:57] *** Quits: Jhil (~34083@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1910 [17:17:18] *** Joins: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip )
1911 [17:18:12] *** Joins: ruffni (~anonymous@replaced-ip )
1912 [17:19:00] *** Quits: knidos (~knidos@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
1913 [17:19:20] *** Joins: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip )
1914 [17:19:32] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
1915 [17:19:56] *** Joins: gb00s (uid99359@replaced-ip )
1916 [17:20:24] *** Joins: phebus (~phebus@replaced-ip )
1917 [17:20:42] *** Joins: acidtripper (~acidtripp@replaced-ip )
1918 [17:21:02] *** Quits: citypw (~citypw@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1919 [17:21:24] *** Joins: hikiko (~hikiko@replaced-ip )
1920 [17:22:26] *** Joins: x032cx (~lxuser@replaced-ip )
1921 [17:22:39] *** Quits: Discovery (~Discovery@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1922 [17:23:13] *** Joins: Discovery (~Discovery@replaced-ip )
1923 [17:24:01] *** Joins: phdigitos (~Known_pro@replaced-ip )
1924 [17:24:24] *** Quits: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1925 [17:24:53] <Maid-Chan> @BCMM, true I suppose. the exact
format is narc(nitro archive or something like that. it's for
nintendo 3ds) there actually is a native port but it requires an old
version of libboost_system.
1926 [17:25:05] *** Joins: Typhon (~Typhon@replaced-ip )
1927 [17:27:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1487
1928 [17:27:16] *** Joins: AlexPortable (uid7568@replaced-ip )
1929 [17:28:37] *** Joins: {HD} (nichts@replaced-ip )
1930 [17:29:19] *** Joins: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip )
1931 [17:29:19] <{HD}> Hey, I just restarted my computer and it
went to the grub command prompt. What should I use a grub rescue
process? Is there an easy solution?
1932 [17:29:26] *** Quits: WARBIRD199 (~WARBIRD19@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - ##replaced-url
1933 [17:30:25] *** Quits: neechan (~nee-chan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1934 [17:30:34] *** Quits: MichaelOF (~michael@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1935 [17:31:17] <{HD}> I am 'ls'ing around and I cannot
find anything that looks like my filesystem.
1936 [17:31:50] *** Joins: neechan (~nee-chan@replaced-ip )
1937 [17:32:43] *** Joins: haventerminal (~rb@replaced-ip )
1938 [17:32:45] *** Joins: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip )
1939 [17:34:20] *** Quits: oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1940 [17:35:47] *** Joins: WARBIRD199 (~WARBIRD19@replaced-ip )
1941 [17:36:20] *** Joins: nee-chan (~nee-chan@replaced-ip )
1942 [17:38:24] *** Joins: rafalcpp (~racalcppp@replaced-ip )
1943 [17:39:29] *** Quits: neechan (~nee-chan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1944 [17:39:41] *** Joins: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip )
1945 [17:40:47] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Killed (leguin.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))
1946 [17:41:27] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
1947 [17:41:29] *** Joins: cCkw (~RW@replaced-ip )
1948 [17:44:27] *** Joins: rafaeldelucena (~rafaeldel@replaced-ip )
1949 [17:45:45] <rant> {HD}: do you have another bootable media?
1950 [17:46:14] <rant> preferably a linux bootable media like an
installer or live
1951 [17:47:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1494
1952 [17:47:08] *** Joins: sm0rux (~sm0rux@replaced-ip )
1953 [17:47:53] * rant doesnt know crap about the grub rescue console
and finds a chroot rescue to be more useful
1954 [17:48:36] *** Quits: sandwitch (~sandwitch@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
1955 [17:48:56] <phogg> rant: more useful? They're used for
totally different things
1956 [17:50:25] <rant> not if grub is your problem.. a chroot
rescue just allows you to do more and see the whole system while
doing it
1957 [17:50:39] *** Quits: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1958 [17:50:42] *** Quits: acidtripper (~acidtripp@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1959 [17:51:05] *** Quits: james41382 (~james4138@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1960 [17:51:08] <rant> but rescuing grub is still doable from a
chroot and IMHO is a lot easier to do when you can do crap like
lsblk, blkid, etc
1961 [17:51:10] *** Quits: N3V3RM1^D (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: N3V3RM1^D)
1962 [17:51:13] *** Quits: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1963 [17:53:02] <rant> grub's rescue console addresses a
narrowly scoped circumstance where its convenient to use when you
have no other media.. but its a lot of much harder to use stuff to
learn when keeping a bootable media and using chroot can fix all
those issues and more with tools you already know how to use :p
1964 [17:53:13] *** Joins: Haxxa (~Harrison@replaced-ip )
1965 [17:55:37] *** Quits: boturk (boturk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: I'm out)
1966 [17:56:01] *** Joins: acidtripper (~acidtripp@replaced-ip )
1967 [17:56:09] <acidtripper> Hi
1968 [17:56:19] <acidtripper> im having some boot low speed
problems
1969 [17:56:21] <acidtripper> im using lilo
1970 [17:56:32] <acidtripper> kernel + initrd tried removing
initrd wont boot
1971 [17:56:38] <rant> acidtripper: Debian Stretch?
1972 [17:56:56] *** Joins: leerg319 (~alexey@replaced-ip )
1973 [17:56:58] <acidtripper> any idea? is taking like 50 seconds
i have i5 3570 8gb ram and a normal hdd
1974 [17:57:00] <acidtripper> debian 9
1975 [17:57:03] <rant> acidtripper: if you want to remove initrd
you have to recompile your kernel to not use initrd.. the debian
kernels all use initrd
1976 [17:57:08] <acidtripper> im booting faster with systemv
1977 [17:57:10] <acidtripper> same machine
1978 [17:57:29] <acidtripper> i think it's loading modules 2
imes
1979 [17:57:30] <rant> acidtripper: systemd-analyze --blame may
help
1980 [17:57:40] <acidtripper> systemv same machine takes 38
seconds
1981 [17:57:47] <acidtripper> compared to 52 with systemd
1982 [17:57:52] *** Quits: Orochimarufan (~taeyeon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1983 [17:57:53] <acidtripper> same modules, same services
1984 [17:57:55] <acidtripper> same machine
1985 [17:57:56] *** Joins: boturk (boturk@replaced-ip )
1986 [17:57:58] <rant> sorry systemd-analyze blame
1987 [17:58:00] *** Quits: patterson (~patterson@replaced-ip ) ()
1988 [17:58:21] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1989 [17:58:28] <{HD}> Well, I cheated and used a grub rescue disk
which allowed me to boot into my machine but it was wack. maybe I
should try booting into a different restore point but I could not
use the stuff I had previouse working. It sucks that it went bunk
like that.
1990 [17:58:29] <acidtripper> rant, that will show if modules are
loaded two times?
1991 [17:58:51] <rant> acidtripper: it breaks down the time on
each unit.. shows where the boot time is being used
1992 [17:59:02] <acidtripper> what i found is that booting from
grub on debian is much faster..
1993 [17:59:08] <acidtripper> than from lilo
1994 [17:59:22] <acidtripper> wird
1995 [17:59:24] <acidtripper> weird
1996 [17:59:59] *** Joins: Orochimarufan (~taeyeon@replaced-ip )
1997 [18:00:00] <rant> unless my boot takes over 10 minutes I dont
really care personally.. one of the main reasons I switched to linux
years ago was because windows always wanted to reboot for dumb
stuff.. I dont do much booting on linux :P
1998 [18:00:12] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1999 [18:00:22] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
2000 [18:00:39] <acidtripper> yes but systemd is supposed to
reduce boot speed
2001 [18:00:43] <acidtripper> and one of it goals..
2002 [18:00:57] <acidtripper> and i realize it decreased my boot
time, which i dont like
2003 [18:01:01] <rant> yeah well it allows for things to happen
simultaneously
2004 [18:01:23] <rant> but if you're not gonna use the tools
it has and figure out what the problem is you're just
complaining and probably shouldnt use it
2005 [18:01:46] <rant> systemd-analyze blame is the first step to
diagnosing boot time issues
2006 [18:01:57] <acidtripper> ok let me check
2007 [18:02:25] <rant> it'll give you a breakdown of time
taken by each unit and you can look further into each one for
optimization
2008 [18:03:03] *** Joins: mortn (~mortn@replaced-ip )
2009 [18:04:32] *** Quits: cujotsi (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2010 [18:04:32] *** Quits: cujotus (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2011 [18:04:33] *** Quits: Qas (~Qas@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2012 [18:04:35] *** Joins: LordPraslea (~Praslea@replaced-ip )
2013 [18:05:23] *** Joins: kus (~kus@replaced-ip )
2014 [18:05:39] *** Quits: iderik (~idk@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2015 [18:05:39] <rant> acidtripper: you can use this for a
comparison if you like I checked two systems here
replaced-url
2016 [18:05:41] *** Quits: acidtripper (~acidtripp@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2017 [18:06:04] *** Quits: mortn (~mortn@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2018 [18:06:23] <rant> only other system I have is a pi and
it'd be a bit cumbersome to get the data from that and would be
less comparable to your system anyhow.. these machines are both x86
and older than yours so you'd expect better times then shown
there
2019 [18:06:25] *** Quits: Tiffon (~name@replaced-ip ) (Quit: exit)
2020 [18:07:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1486
2021 [18:07:38] *** Joins: iderik (~idk@replaced-ip )
2022 [18:07:54] <haventerminal> rant: u mean a raspberry or banana
pi?
2023 [18:08:06] <rant> haventerminal: orange pi
2024 [18:08:06] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
2025 [18:08:17] *** Joins: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip )
2026 [18:08:35] <rant> the cheapest of the pi :P
2027 [18:08:35] <haventerminal> oh i never hear about orange pi. I
take a look
2028 [18:09:17] <nashimus1> I want to make a mud pi
2029 [18:09:20] <nashimus1> :D
2030 [18:09:21] *** Quits: dema (~dema@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2031 [18:09:37] <rant> I paid US$37 for an Orange Pi Lite w/ 8gb
(crappy) kingston sd, heatsink, power/hdmi cable, and a little
remote that has a keyboard/touchpad
2032 [18:10:23] *** Quits: subpath (~subpath@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5+deb1 - ##replaced-url
2033 [18:10:25] <haventerminal> its interessting alternative
2034 [18:10:25] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2035 [18:11:23] <rant> yeah.. mainline kernel support for those
allwinner chips they use is finally getting to a point they may
really be competition
2036 [18:11:37] *** Joins: unreg_ (~unreg@replaced-ip )
2037 [18:12:02] *** Joins: subpath (~subpath@replaced-ip )
2038 [18:12:15] *** Quits: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2039 [18:12:28] <rant>
replaced-url
2040 [18:12:28] *** Joins: Cornven (~Cornven@replaced-ip )
2041 [18:12:33] *** Quits: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2042 [18:12:42] <haventerminal> ok thx rant
2043 [18:12:44] *** Joins: suhdood (~Thaelim@replaced-ip )
2044 [18:12:54] *** Quits: WARBIRD199 (~WARBIRD19@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - ##replaced-url
2045 [18:12:59] *** Joins: Tom_- (~tomg@replaced-ip )
2046 [18:14:24] *** Joins: haruspiiii (~pi@replaced-ip )
2047 [18:14:29] *** Quits: ptx0 (~cheesus_c@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2048 [18:14:36] *** Joins: kliq (~textual@replaced-ip )
2049 [18:14:36] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2050 [18:14:52] *** Joins: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip )
2051 [18:15:17] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
2052 [18:15:42] *** Quits: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2053 [18:17:19] *** Joins: fekir (~fekir@replaced-ip )
2054 [18:18:16] *** Joins: ungars (~ungars@replaced-ip )
2055 [18:18:32] *** Joins: notadrop (~notadrop@replaced-ip )
2056 [18:18:42] *** Quits: LordPraslea (~Praslea@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2057 [18:19:41] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip )
2058 [18:19:57] *** Joins: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip )
2059 [18:20:18] *** Joins: Nh3xus (~Nh3xus@replaced-ip )
2060 [18:20:53] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2061 [18:22:01] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
2062 [18:22:31] *** Quits: Ryushin (chris@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2063 [18:22:33] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
2064 [18:22:55] *** Quits: mnuhmnuh (~keeling@replaced-ip ) (Quit: needsreboot.)
2065 [18:23:32] *** Joins: LordPraslea (~Praslea@replaced-ip )
2066 [18:23:32] *** Joins: ptx0 (~cheesus_c@replaced-ip )
2067 [18:23:37] <nix64bit> isnt there some scandal with allwinner
chips?
2068 [18:24:32] <hypn0> intel chips? I think
2069 [18:25:32] <nix64bit> as well
2070 [18:25:56] <nix64bit> I am looking for the link
2071 [18:27:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1495
2072 [18:27:04] *** Quits: Havis (~Havis@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2073 [18:27:45] <jelly> whether there's an issue or not,
there are better places to write about it: #debian-offtopic for
ranting or #linux-sunxi for solving
2074 [18:28:43] <nix64bit> Linux controversies ->
replaced-url
2075 [18:28:56] *** Thargoid is now known as stwalkerster
2076 [18:28:57] *** Quits: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2077 [18:29:09] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2078 [18:30:12] *** Quits: Orochimarufan (~taeyeon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2079 [18:30:18] *** Joins: brokencycle (~brokencyc@replaced-ip )
2080 [18:30:24] *** Joins: hk238 (~kvirc@replaced-ip )
2081 [18:30:26] <jelly> nix64bit, don't trust everything you
read on wikipedia, and please keep this channel for actual tech
support
2082 [18:31:12] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2083 [18:32:38] *** Quits: Mi5ter (~Mi5ter@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2084 [18:33:10] <nix64bit> should I trust some of it?
2085 [18:33:15] *** Joins: Orochimarufan (znc@replaced-ip )
2086 [18:34:21] *** Joins: Ryushin (chris@replaced-ip )
2087 [18:35:48] *** Joins: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip )
2088 [18:35:58] <hypn0> yeah just the bits you read :-)
2089 [18:36:32] *** Joins: james41382 (~james4138@replaced-ip )
2090 [18:36:34] *** Quits: xet7 (~xet7@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2091 [18:39:56] *** Joins: OS-36728 (~OS-36728@replaced-ip )
2092 [18:42:21] <nix64bit> I trust nouns and prepositions more
than adjectives and verbs, I had a bad experience once
2093 [18:43:16] *** Joins: MrKaKisen (~MrKaKisen@replaced-ip )
2094 [18:43:20] *** Joins: lasdam (~lasdam@replaced-ip )
2095 [18:43:20] *** Quits: lasdam (~lasdam@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2096 [18:43:20] *** Joins: lasdam (~lasdam@replaced-ip )
2097 [18:44:21] *** Joins: PMS (~ircap@replaced-ip )
2098 [18:45:10] *** Quits: Ryushin (chris@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Client exiting)
2099 [18:45:12] *** Quits: ruffni (~anonymous@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ruffni)
2100 [18:45:45] *** Joins: rocketmagnet (~unnamed@replaced-ip )
2101 [18:45:49] *** Quits: unreg_ (~unreg@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2102 [18:45:53] *** Quits: haventerminal (~rb@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
2103 [18:46:16] *** Quits: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2104 [18:46:33] *** Joins: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip )
2105 [18:47:00] <rocketmagnet> hi everyone, i have a few strange
problems with my new thinkpad (e560), most is working i just have a
few issues - i try to disable ipv6 and when i try it and test it
afterwards it's working but after reboot ipv6 is enabled again
:(
2106 [18:47:45] <rocketmagnet> i used this guide and it works
until reboot:
replaced-url
2107 [18:47:56] *** Joins: mnuhmnuh (~keeling@replaced-ip )
2108 [18:48:06] *** Joins: Ozzyboshi (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2109 [18:48:38] <jelly> !nopiv6
2110 [18:48:45] <jelly> !noipv6
2111 [18:48:45] <dpkg> From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"
onwards, <IPv6> is built into the Linux kernel (excluding the
loongson-2f flavour). To disable IPv6, add the kernel command line
option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader.
2112 [18:48:54] *** Joins: sdoubleyou (~sdoubleyo@replaced-ip )
2113 [18:49:33] *** Joins: pie3 (~pieee@replaced-ip )
2114 [18:49:33] <rocketmagnet> cool thank you
2115 [18:49:49] *** Joins: Ametrine (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2116 [18:50:18] *** Quits: stackofcats (~stackofca@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5+deb1 - ##replaced-url
2117 [18:50:27] <jelly> (if you use GRUB as boot loader, that
means /etc/default/grub, append to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= and run
update-grub)
2118 [18:50:32] *** Quits: zyl (~zyley@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2119 [18:50:49] *** Joins: stackofcats (~stackofca@replaced-ip )
2120 [18:51:30] <jelly> ideally you should not have to disable
ipv6 at all, but ehh
2121 [18:51:35] <rocketmagnet> my other issue is with my graphic
cards.. i have an intel and a radeon, i tried installing
firmware-amd-graphics but i get and error (parts of it are:
"failed to load i915/sk1_dmc_ver1_26) and i have to enter my
username & pw to boot forward ...
2122 [18:52:31] *** Quits: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2123 [18:52:41] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2124 [18:52:45] *** Joins: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip )
2125 [18:52:56] *** Joins: keith20 (~keith20@replaced-ip )
2126 [18:53:05] *** Ametrine is now known as Butt3rfly
2127 [18:53:16] <rocketmagnet> it would be great to get 3d
acceleration working from the radeon but if this is not possible i
would be fine if he would just boot up without entering username/pw
? (prefered would be to have real 3d accel..)
2128 [18:53:27] *** Quits: sine0 (~sine@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2129 [18:53:31] *** Quits: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2130 [18:53:45] *** Joins: Ryushin (chris@replaced-ip )
2131 [18:54:33] *** Joins: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip )
2132 [18:54:51] *** Joins: moonwatcher- (~pablo@replaced-ip )
2133 [18:55:06] <jelly> so you also need intel gpu firmware
2134 [18:55:11] *** Joins: tomlukeywood (~tom@replaced-ip )
2135 [18:55:16] *** Joins: e14 (~e14@replaced-ip )
2136 [18:55:16] *** Joins: Ametrine (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2137 [18:55:26] <jelly> ,file sk1_dmc_ver1_26*
2138 [18:55:29] <judd> No packages in stretch/amd64 were found
with that file.
2139 [18:55:38] <jelly> ,file sk1_dmc_ver1_26* --release
stretch-backports
2140 [18:55:39] <judd> No packages in stretch-backports/amd64 were
found with that file.
2141 [18:55:54] <jelly> rocketmagnet, which kernel version are you
using?
2142 [18:56:00] *** Quits: platvoeten (~platvoete@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2143 [18:56:25] <mnuhmnuh> rocketmagnet: are you meaning replace
gdm/xdm/lightdm/... with nodm? disable initial gui login?
2144 [18:56:27] <rocketmagnet> Linux walkstation 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1
SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u1 (2017-12-23) x86_64 GNU/Linux
2145 [18:57:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1502
2146 [18:57:04] <rocketmagnet> mnuhmnuh: its about the
firmware-amd-graphics package seems to have a bug
2147 [18:57:22] <jelly> rocketmagnet, intel gpu firmware is not in
that package
2148 [18:57:31] *** Joins: olegfusion (~olegfusio@replaced-ip )
2149 [18:57:36] <jelly> ,file skl_dmc_ver1_26*
2150 [18:57:36] <rocketmagnet> jelly: when i updated within X i
was not able to boot anymore at all btw.
2151 [18:57:39] <judd> Search for skl_dmc_ver1_26* in
stretch/amd64: firmware-misc-nonfree:
lib/firmware/i915/skl_dmc_ver1_26.bin
2152 [18:57:51] <jelly> do you have that one installed? &
2153 [18:57:53] *** Joins: WARBIRD199 (~WARBIRD19@replaced-ip )
2154 [18:58:08] *** Joins: allu2 (~allu2@replaced-ip )
2155 [18:58:10] *** Joins: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
2156 [18:58:18] <jelly> rocketmagnet, updated what?
2157 [18:58:38] <rocketmagnet> you mean if i have installed
firmware-misc-nonfree ?
2158 [18:58:45] <jelly> yes.
2159 [18:58:49] *** Joins: G43l (~Gael@replaced-ip )
2160 [18:58:57] *** Quits: Ozzyboshi (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2161 [18:58:57] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2162 [18:58:58] <jelly> that's the package carrying intel gpu
fw apparently
2163 [18:59:18] *** Ametrine is now known as Butt3rfly
2164 [18:59:58] <rocketmagnet> how to check if this package is
installed ?
2165 [19:00:07] <jelly> dpkg -l packagename
2166 [19:00:08] <dpkg> ii packagename 3.4-5.2 ultra s3kr1t #debian
package
2167 [19:01:03] <rocketmagnet> dpkg can't find that package
2168 [19:01:03] *** Quits: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2169 [19:01:03] <dpkg> rocketmagnet: have you tried
replaced-url
2170 [19:01:26] <rocketmagnet> ^ sorry for that dump question
2171 [19:01:38] *** Joins: r2tw (~r2tw@replaced-ip )
2172 [19:01:42] <jelly> rocketmagnet, that's unusual,
it's in the same place as firmware-amd-graphics
2173 [19:01:46] <jelly> !non-free sources
2174 [19:01:46] <dpkg> Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the
two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib
non-free" rather than just "main", then
«apt-get update». But bear in mind that you'll be
installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms;
check the licenses. See also <sources.list>.
2175 [19:01:54] <jelly> rocketmagnet, ^
2176 [19:02:03] *** Joins: OS-25689 (~OS-25689@replaced-ip )
2177 [19:02:09] *** Quits: LordPraslea (~Praslea@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2178 [19:02:18] <jelly> ,v firmware-misc-nonfree
2179 [19:02:19] <judd> Package: firmware-misc-nonfree on amd64 --
jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free:
20161130-3; stretch-backports/non-free: 20170823-1~bpo9+1;
buster/non-free: 20170823-1; sid/non-free: 20170823-1
2180 [19:02:54] *** Quits: olafout (~chloubs@replaced-ip ) (Quit: olafout)
2181 [19:03:01] *** Joins: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip )
2182 [19:03:02] *** Quits: OS-25689 (~OS-25689@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2183 [19:03:11] *** Joins: rocketma1 (~unnamed@replaced-ip )
2184 [19:03:23] *** Joins: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip )
2185 [19:03:28] *** Quits: r2tw (~r2tw@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)
2186 [19:03:28] *** Quits: OS-36728 (~OS-36728@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2187 [19:03:32] *** Joins: olafout (~chloubs@replaced-ip )
2188 [19:04:25] *** Joins: r2tw (~r2tw@replaced-ip )
2189 [19:05:27] *** Quits: thiras (~thiras@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2190 [19:05:33] *** Quits: rocketmagnet (~unnamed@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2191 [19:05:45] *** Joins: tdn (~tdn@replaced-ip )
2192 [19:06:20] <rocketma1> i make a system image to save all my
settings then i come back, thanks so far
2193 [19:06:24] *** Quits: rocketma1 (~unnamed@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2194 [19:07:49] *** Joins: haventerminal (~rb@replaced-ip )
2195 [19:08:14] *** Quits: ww_ (~ww@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2196 [19:10:16] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2197 [19:11:44] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2198 [19:12:34] *** Joins: powi (~powi@replaced-ip )
2199 [19:15:16] *** Quits: vmod (~ivyshed@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2200 [19:15:42] *** Joins: vmod (~ivyshed@replaced-ip )
2201 [19:16:01] *** Joins: Agiofws (~agiofws@replaced-ip )
2202 [19:16:26] *** Quits: vmod (~ivyshed@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2203 [19:16:54] *** Joins: LioneLL (~Pidgin@replaced-ip )
2204 [19:17:02] *** Joins: vmod (~ivyshed@replaced-ip )
2205 [19:17:04] *** Joins: brokencycle_ (~brokencyc@replaced-ip )
2206 [19:17:17] *** Joins: ioc_ (~ioc__@replaced-ip )
2207 [19:17:50] *** Joins: lldd (~l@replaced-ip )
2208 [19:19:46] *** Joins: SyntaxxxErr0r (~SyntaxxxE@replaced-ip )
2209 [19:20:36] *** Quits: deb (~unlike@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2210 [19:20:45] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
2211 [19:20:49] *** Quits: toozej (~toozej@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - ##replaced-url
2212 [19:22:03] *** Joins: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip )
2213 [19:22:18] *** Quits: n4dir (~user@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
2214 [19:23:08] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nix64bit)
2215 [19:23:25] *** Joins: arora (~ashok@replaced-ip )
2216 [19:24:04] *** Quits: BluesKaj (~Blues@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2217 [19:24:06] *** Quits: vmod (~ivyshed@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2218 [19:24:49] *** Joins: HaMsTeRs (~HaMsTeRs@replaced-ip )
2219 [19:24:50] *** Quits: HaMsTeRs (~HaMsTeRs@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2220 [19:25:06] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2221 [19:25:27] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2222 [19:26:57] *** Quits: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2223 [19:28:55] *** Joins: BluesKaj (Blues@replaced-ip )
2224 [19:29:43] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
2225 [19:30:31] *** Joins: toozej (~toozej@replaced-ip )
2226 [19:30:57] *** Quits: LioneLL (~Pidgin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
2227 [19:31:27] *** Joins: Levure (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2228 [19:32:00] *** Joins: wonko (~wonko@replaced-ip )
2229 [19:32:42] *** Quits: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip ) (Quit: DrWatson)
2230 [19:33:15] *** Quits: ioc_ (~ioc__@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2231 [19:33:41] *** Quits: tomlukeywood (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
2232 [19:34:03] *** Quits: maxzor (~maxzor@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2233 [19:34:05] *** Quits: suhdood (~Thaelim@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2234 [19:34:12] *** Joins: deb (~unlike@replaced-ip )
2235 [19:34:41] *** Joins: suhdood (~Thaelim@replaced-ip )
2236 [19:34:42] *** Quits: suhdood (~Thaelim@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2237 [19:34:48] *** Quits: wonko (~wonko@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2238 [19:35:22] *** Quits: phdigitos (~Known_pro@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
2239 [19:36:01] *** Joins: phdigitos (~Known_pro@replaced-ip )
2240 [19:36:10] *** Quits: moonwatcher- (~pablo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
2241 [19:36:50] *** Quits: e14 (~e14@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
2242 [19:37:48] *** Joins: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip )
2243 [19:39:09] *** Quits: phdigitos (~Known_pro@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2244 [19:39:34] *** Joins: phdigitos (~Known_pro@replaced-ip )
2245 [19:39:59] *** Joins: hkw (~hkw@replaced-ip )
2246 [19:40:38] *** Quits: iderik (~idk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: iderik)
2247 [19:40:56] *** Joins: Darcidride (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip )
2248 [19:41:47] *** Quits: Gaaab (~Gaaab@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2249 [19:42:46] *** Quits: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2250 [19:42:49] *** Quits: dtux (~david@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2251 [19:43:40] *** Joins: dorrek (~dorrek@replaced-ip )
2252 [19:43:40] *** Joins: dtux (~david@replaced-ip )
2253 [19:44:10] *** Quits: fightthe1alrus (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2254 [19:44:13] *** Quits: pie3 (~pieee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2255 [19:45:24] *** Quits: Agiofws (~agiofws@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2256 [19:46:29] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2257 [19:46:52] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2258 [19:47:19] *** Quits: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
2259 [19:47:41] *** Joins: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip )
2260 [19:47:41] *** Quits: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2261 [19:48:08] *** Quits: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2262 [19:48:51] *** Joins: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip )
2263 [19:49:21] *** Quits: fixmer (~fixmer@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2264 [19:49:25] *** Joins: rizzo (~RizzoTheR@replaced-ip )
2265 [19:49:54] *** Joins: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
2266 [19:50:32] *** Joins: siiky (~siiky@replaced-ip )
2267 [19:50:32] *** Quits: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2268 [19:51:45] *** Joins: fixmer (~fixmer@replaced-ip )
2269 [19:53:08] *** Joins: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip )
2270 [19:55:03] *** Joins: Ametrine (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2271 [19:56:05] *** Quits: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2272 [19:57:18] *** Joins: jhx (~jhx@replaced-ip )
2273 [19:57:52] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2274 [19:58:11] *** Parts: jhx (~jhx@replaced-ip ) ()
2275 [19:58:35] *** Quits: Plan_IX (~Plan_IX@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2276 [19:58:48] *** Joins: scream (~scream@replaced-ip )
2277 [19:59:45] *** Joins: volodim (~volodim@replaced-ip )
2278 [20:00:03] *** Quits: corretico_ (~corretico@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2279 [20:01:05] <x032cx> firmware-misc-non
2280 [20:01:07] *** Joins: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
2281 [20:01:33] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2282 [20:01:36] *** Joins: XSoul (~XRule@replaced-ip )
2283 [20:01:40] *** Quits: x032cx (~lxuser@replaced-ip ) (Quit: idts)
2284 [20:02:25] *** Joins: Appletree (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2285 [20:02:58] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2286 [20:03:14] *** Quits: nashimus1 (~nashimus@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2287 [20:03:29] *** Quits: SmashK2 (5b40100b@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2288 [20:03:43] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
2289 [20:04:05] *** Quits: XSoul (~XRule@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2290 [20:04:16] *** Joins: XSoul (~XRule@replaced-ip )
2291 [20:04:23] *** Joins: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip )
2292 [20:04:27] *** Quits: XSoul (~XRule@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2293 [20:04:45] *** Joins: XSoul (~XRule@replaced-ip )
2294 [20:05:06] *** Quits: sdoubleyou (~sdoubleyo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: sdoubleyou)
2295 [20:05:37] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2296 [20:05:48] *** Quits: Ametrine (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2297 [20:06:17] *** Quits: haventerminal (~rb@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1)
2298 [20:06:53] *** Quits: ahf_ (ahf@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2299 [20:07:36] *** Quits: volodim (~volodim@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2300 [20:07:48] *** Appletree is now known as Butt3rfly
2301 [20:07:58] *** Quits: G43l (~Gael@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2302 [20:08:09] *** Quits: gb00s (uid99359@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2303 [20:08:23] *** Quits: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip ) (Quit: LtL)
2304 [20:08:40] *** Quits: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2305 [20:08:42] *** Joins: un214 (~un214@replaced-ip )
2306 [20:09:15] <un214> how can I tell if I have meltdown patches
yet?
2307 [20:09:25] *** Joins: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip )
2308 [20:10:20] *** Joins: volodim (~volodim@replaced-ip )
2309 [20:10:27] *** Joins: acer (~acer@replaced-ip )
2310 [20:10:51] <DerLGm> un214: if you updated to the latest
kernel
2311 [20:10:57] *** Quits: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2312 [20:11:06] <DerLGm> un214: type uname -a
2313 [20:11:17] <un214> Linux nova 4.9.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
4.9.65-3+deb9u2 (2018-01-04) x86_64 GNU/Linux
2314 [20:11:18] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2315 [20:11:28] *** Quits: hk238 (~kvirc@replaced-ip ) ()
2316 [20:11:30] <mnuhmnuh> spectre-meltdown-checker (on testing).
2317 [20:12:01] <un214> !backports
2318 [20:12:01] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian
branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency
and <ABI> complications.
replaced-url
2319 [20:12:05] *** Joins: Plan_IX (~Plan_IX@replaced-ip )
2320 [20:12:27] *** Quits: Howie69 (~Howie69@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2321 [20:12:40] <un214> !simple sid backport
2322 [20:12:40] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
2323 [20:12:47] *** Joins: alxy (uid115853@replaced-ip )
2324 [20:12:51] *** Quits: FraGManiA (~FraGManiA@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2325 [20:12:53] <un214> !deb-src sid
2326 [20:12:53] <dpkg> You can get apt to download source packages
with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable
entry for the sid release is: "deb-src
replaced-url
2327 [20:13:08] *** Joins: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip )
2328 [20:13:13] *** Quits: volodim (~volodim@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2329 [20:13:41] <mnuhmnuh> cool un214 :-)
2330 [20:13:51] *** Joins: volodim (~volodim@replaced-ip )
2331 [20:14:10] *** Quits: _MaX_BR (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2332 [20:14:41] *** Quits: adoua (~adoua@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2333 [20:14:49] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
2334 [20:14:52] *** Joins: Ltem (~ltem@replaced-ip )
2335 [20:15:06] *** Joins: corretico_ (~corretico@replaced-ip )
2336 [20:15:13] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2337 [20:16:11] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
2338 [20:16:50] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Hold on, brb.😎)
2339 [20:17:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1494
2340 [20:17:09] *** Quits: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2341 [20:17:13] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip )
2342 [20:17:14] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
2343 [20:17:48] *** Joins: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip )
2344 [20:17:57] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2345 [20:18:29] *** Joins: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip )
2346 [20:19:17] <un214> thanks mnuhmnuh
2347 [20:19:24] *** Joins: sprite_ (~sprite@replaced-ip )
2348 [20:19:42] *** Joins: corretico__ (~corretico@replaced-ip )
2349 [20:19:48] <sprite_> hello everybody
2350 [20:19:53] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2351 [20:20:17] <sprite_> anybody have any suggestions on how to
get gcc-5 working on debian 9.3 for a really picky package?
2352 [20:20:32] *** Quits: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2353 [20:20:45] <un214> debootstrap the correct version of debian
2354 [20:20:52] <sprite_> I've been trying for awhile now;
starting to think it might be best for me to just create a VM with a
debian inst version <9.3 and build the package as a static binary
2355 [20:21:17] *** Joins: azur_kind (~azur_kind@replaced-ip )
2356 [20:21:27] <un214> I found that a newly debootstrapped debian
in a chroot jail is a really good choice for compiling a package
from that version
2357 [20:21:28] *** Joins: timahvo1 (~rogue@replaced-ip )
2358 [20:21:53] *** Quits: mylinux (~mylinux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2359 [20:21:57] *** Quits: corretico_ (~corretico@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2360 [20:22:38] <sprite_> I've got a feeling that I'm
going to mess my installation up if I try that... I was working on
setting up gcc-5.5 from source and I ran into issues that were
giving me the same heebie-jeebies
2361 [20:22:55] *** Joins: expert975 (~xp@replaced-ip )
2362 [20:23:37] *** Quits: Kilobyte22 (~kilobyte@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - ##replaced-url
2363 [20:23:38] <expert975> Sometimes when I start my system, one
of my oudio outputs has no sound and I have to restart a few times
to get it working. What could be causing this?
2364 [20:23:45] <expert975> *audio
2365 [20:26:07] <somiaj> sprite_: hence the chroot suggestion, if
you mess up teh chroot, delete it, create a new one.
2366 [20:26:25] *** Quits: cariveri (~tell@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2367 [20:26:48] *** Quits: fekir (~fekir@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
2368 [20:26:48] *** Joins: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip )
2369 [20:26:54] <somiaj> expert975: audo devices are sometimes
detected in different orders during boot. Maybe check how you
configure which one you use, if you say use card 0, you may want to
change that method. Also do you use pulseaudio?
2370 [20:26:58] *** Quits: jham (~lynucs@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2371 [20:27:18] *** Joins: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip )
2372 [20:27:30] *** Joins: jham (~lynucs@replaced-ip )
2373 [20:27:30] *** Quits: jham (~lynucs@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2374 [20:27:30] *** Joins: jham (~lynucs@replaced-ip )
2375 [20:28:01] <sprite_> somiaj & un214: missed the chroot
bit when I first saw that, thank you for the suggestion. I
haven't got too much experience chrooting things, but I'll
see if I can't find some infoz that'll help me through it
2376 [20:29:02] <somiaj> they are easy to create, just look
debootstrap create chroot
2377 [20:29:31] <somiaj> if you wanted to get more soposicated you
could look into tools like pbuilder or sbuild to automate some of
this.
2378 [20:29:35] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip )
2379 [20:30:00] *** Quits: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2380 [20:30:14] <sprite_> awesome. didn't even realize that
'debootstrap' was a tool, I thought it was just parlance.
I'm reading up on it now. thank you
2381 [20:30:51] *** Quits: sir_wombat (~andreas@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2382 [20:30:58] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
2383 [20:31:26] <expert975> somiaj: Yes, I'm using pulseaudio
2384 [20:32:09] <expert975> somiaj: I'm using debian's
default, I didn't configure the audio
2385 [20:32:34] <somiaj> debian's default depends on what you
install, pulseaudio is only default with the desktop enviorments.
2386 [20:33:06] <somiaj> anyways check the pulseaudio control
tool, pavucontrol is a de independent tool you can use to configure
it, you should be able to configure the correct sound card.
2387 [20:33:20] *** Joins: sysvar (~sysvar3@replaced-ip )
2388 [20:33:30] *** Quits: gzcwnk (~gzcwnk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2389 [20:33:31] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip )
2390 [20:33:35] *** Quits: kliq (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2391 [20:33:35] <somiaj> If pulseaudio is not seeing the sound
card, check 'cat /proc/asound/cards' if the sound card is
only showing up some boot but not others, you have a hardware issue
of some sort
2392 [20:33:57] <somiaj> but I think it is the first, you just
need to configure what card you use (your system might just be
defaulting to card 0 which is changing each boot)
2393 [20:35:53] *** Quits: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
2394 [20:36:00] *** Quits: acer (~acer@replaced-ip ) (Quit: acer)
2395 [20:36:04] <expert975> somiaj: I do have pavucontrol
installed, and it shows the selected card as is correct one. It even
shows the pulsating volume bar when music is playing, but without
sound
2396 [20:36:14] *** Joins: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
2397 [20:36:25] <expert975> somiaj: *as the correct one
2398 [20:37:09] *** Quits: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2399 [20:37:12] <somiaj> double check for muting, maybe you have
some issue with a cable, hardware that gets fixed with reboots
2400 [20:37:15] *** Joins: ruffni (~anonymous@replaced-ip )
2401 [20:37:43] <somiaj> but if you cannot see a differnce between
pulse when it works and it doesn't, you could check dmesg, but
I dont' know why your kernel would load the sound card
differently
2402 [20:38:14] <expert975> somiaj: I triple checked for muting.
How can the hardware get fixed with reboots?
2403 [20:38:44] <awal1> suggestion for a usb wifi adapter working
nice under debian?
2404 [20:38:57] <expert975> somiaj: what am I looking for in
dmesg?
2405 [20:39:00] <somiaj> buggy hardware does strange things. You
should check demsg and see if you see a difference in loading the
sound module between when it works and it doesn't.
2406 [20:39:21] *** Joins: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip )
2407 [20:39:22] <rant> expert975: one could only speculate.. you
need to do the investigation while the problem is occuring.. you
also need to keep in mind WHICH apps are in question as different
apps use different sound libraries and it may be related to one
particular sound library
2408 [20:39:23] <somiaj> stuff about the sound module for your
sound card
2409 [20:39:44] *** Quits: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2410 [20:39:59] <somiaj> awal1: many will work, just look up a
review of the chipset if poossible on google before purchasing.
2411 [20:40:04] <rant> expert975: when it comes to issues you can
solve or work around, and if you choose the work around (like
rebooting) you are losing the information needed to solve usually
2412 [20:40:04] <expert975> rant: nothing at all plays while the
device is not working. Everything plays fine when it is
2413 [20:40:09] <somiaj> but usually best to see what you can get,
then check how compadable it is
2414 [20:40:11] *** Quits: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2415 [20:40:24] *** Quits: Quatroking (~Quatrokin@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2416 [20:40:34] <expert975> rant: I do want to solve this instead
of rebooting. Rebooting teaches me nothing :)
2417 [20:40:53] *** Quits: keith20 (~keith20@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2418 [20:41:03] <rant> expert975: I hear ya. Sound still to this
day is a complex animal on linux.. lots of layers and things to
check
2419 [20:41:04] *** Quits: fixmer (~fixmer@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2420 [20:41:36] *** Joins: cadillac_ (~omab@replaced-ip )
2421 [20:41:38] <expert975> I'll keep an eye on dmesg, not
sure what else to check for
2422 [20:41:46] *** Joins: ejm4010 (~elliot@replaced-ip )
2423 [20:42:01] <BluesKaj> rebooting may not teach you anything in
some cases it's required for apps to work
2424 [20:42:20] *** Joins: nic_ (~nic@replaced-ip )
2425 [20:42:33] *** Joins: _MaX_BR (~androirc@replaced-ip )
2426 [20:42:38] *** Joins: hamersaw (~hamersaw@replaced-ip )
2427 [20:43:02] *** Joins: JohnA1 (~john@replaced-ip )
2428 [20:43:35] <somiaj> rant: my solution was to keep using my
sblive from 1998...though it is getting hard and harder to find
mobos with a pci slot...
2429 [20:43:41] *** Quits: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2430 [20:43:51] <somiaj> (and luckly I don't use latpops for
sound)
2431 [20:44:23] *** Quits: JohnA (~john@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2432 [20:44:30] *** Joins: coderphive (~coderphiv@replaced-ip )
2433 [20:45:26] *** Quits: arora (~ashok@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2434 [20:45:42] *** Joins: HeOS (~heos@replaced-ip )
2435 [20:45:44] *** Joins: arora (~ashok@replaced-ip )
2436 [20:46:06] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
2437 [20:47:49] *** Joins: PoaB (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2438 [20:48:57] *** Quits: schu-r (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: schu-r)
2439 [20:49:09] *** Quits: coderphive (~coderphiv@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2440 [20:50:03] <rant> heh
2441 [20:50:09] *** Joins: a_f (~a_f@replaced-ip )
2442 [20:50:31] <somiaj> more sound cards just need to do hardware
mixing.
2443 [20:50:35] <a_f> hi folks, i'm just wondering if anyone
is running Stable on a Ryzen chip. If so, how's the stability
these days?
2444 [20:50:46] <awal1> somiaj, it is just bcoz of possible
non-free stuff, you know
2445 [20:51:03] <rant> I had an SB Live once with one of those
5.25" bay deals that goes in the front with all the extra I/O
and controls
2446 [20:51:36] *** Joins: fixmer (~fixmer@replaced-ip )
2447 [20:51:40] <somiaj> awal1: you can't really avoid
non-free firmware with wifi, so I would more just look at the actual
chipset and info about how well it works.
2448 [20:51:41] *** Joins: meatpath (~meatpath@replaced-ip )
2449 [20:51:56] <awal1> somiaj, ok
2450 [20:52:16] *** Quits: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2451 [20:52:20] <somiaj> rant: though I recentally (like a month
ago) finally installed pulse because I had to test out an app that
required it, and I must admit I like the per app volume control and
the switching sound cards on teh fly.
2452 [20:52:27] *** Quits: volodim (~volodim@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2453 [20:52:33] *** Quits: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2454 [20:53:15] <somiaj> awal1: The only way I know to avoid
non-free firmware and wifi is to get the ath9k chipset, and then
download and flash an open firmware on it (which is in the grey area
legally due to wireless regulations in different countries)
2455 [20:53:58] *** Quits: arora (~ashok@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2456 [20:54:11] *** Joins: arora (~ashok@replaced-ip )
2457 [20:54:48] <awal1> somiaj, i'll duckduck that, ok
2458 [20:54:48] *** Joins: keith20 (~keith20@replaced-ip )
2459 [20:55:06] *** Joins: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip )
2460 [20:55:14] *** Joins: vonsyd0w (~vonsyd0w@replaced-ip )
2461 [20:56:44] *** Joins: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip )
2462 [20:56:52] *** Joins: volodim (~volodim@replaced-ip )
2463 [20:57:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1500
2464 [20:57:33] *** Quits: leerg319 (~alexey@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2465 [20:58:00] *** Quits: volodim (~volodim@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2466 [20:58:11] *** Quits: enki (~enki@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2467 [20:58:12] *** Quits: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2468 [20:59:33] *** Quits: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2469 [20:59:54] *** Joins: enki (~enki@replaced-ip )
2470 [21:00:04] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2471 [21:00:28] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2472 [21:02:09] *** Quits: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2473 [21:02:29] *** Joins: kliq (~textual@replaced-ip )
2474 [21:02:54] *** Quits: arora (~ashok@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2475 [21:05:19] *** Quits: deicide- (~deicide-@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2476 [21:05:34] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2477 [21:05:53] *** Quits: smurfd (~smurfd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2478 [21:06:27] *** Joins: LioneLL (~Pidgin@replaced-ip )
2479 [21:06:41] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
2480 [21:07:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1494
2481 [21:07:41] <rant> somiaj: yeah its nice.. and it doesnt
really use much resources so its good even on older hw
2482 [21:07:42] *** Quits: internot (~node1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2483 [21:09:28] *** Joins: deicide- (~deicide-@replaced-ip )
2484 [21:10:06] *** Joins: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip )
2485 [21:11:06] *** Quits: cCkw (~RW@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2486 [21:11:13] *** Quits: kliq (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2487 [21:12:38] *** Joins: smurfd (~smurfd@replaced-ip )
2488 [21:13:06] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2489 [21:13:28] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2490 [21:14:13] *** Quits: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2491 [21:14:15] *** Quits: Kopfstein (~B@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2492 [21:14:31] *** Joins: volodim (~volodim@replaced-ip )
2493 [21:17:06] *** Quits: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2494 [21:17:21] *** Joins: kliq (~textual@replaced-ip )
2495 [21:17:49] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2496 [21:18:17] *** Joins: xormor (~xormor@replaced-ip )
2497 [21:18:55] *** Quits: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip ) (Quit: DrWatson)
2498 [21:19:04] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
2499 [21:19:05] *** Joins: CtrlC (~CtrlC@replaced-ip )
2500 [21:19:09] *** Quits: volodim (~volodim@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2501 [21:20:00] *** Quits: [6667]ThinkTank (~Spacebase@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2502 [21:20:34] *** Joins: internot (~node1@replaced-ip )
2503 [21:20:34] *** Quits: rovonovo_zoro (uid229900@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2504 [21:20:57] *** Joins: enigma_ (~enigma@replaced-ip )
2505 [21:21:27] *** Joins: volodim (~volodim@replaced-ip )
2506 [21:23:32] *** Joins: [6667]ThinkTank (6667Thin@replaced-ip )
2507 [21:23:56] *** Joins: idiocrash (~idiocrash@replaced-ip )
2508 [21:24:00] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2509 [21:24:50] *** Joins: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip )
2510 [21:26:18] *** Quits: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2511 [21:26:31] *** Quits: shabius (~shabius@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2512 [21:26:36] *** Joins: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
2513 [21:27:11] *** Quits: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2514 [21:27:24] *** Quits: kliq (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2515 [21:27:33] *** Joins: Gaxpaxxo (~Gazpacho@replaced-ip )
2516 [21:27:34] *** Joins: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
2517 [21:28:04] *** Quits: MrKaKisen (~MrKaKisen@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2518 [21:28:06] *** Joins: Coachergirl (~m1zuki@replaced-ip )
2519 [21:28:13] *** Joins: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2520 [21:28:15] *** Quits: Gaxpaxxo (~Gazpacho@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2521 [21:29:20] *** Joins: kliq (~textual@replaced-ip )
2522 [21:29:25] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2523 [21:29:50] <spacedust> anyone using debian encrypted on an
ssd ?
2524 [21:30:04] <spacedust> id like to know how to use the TRIM
functionaly while using LUKS encrypted drive
2525 [21:30:05] *** Quits: f4cl3y (~f4cl3y@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2526 [21:30:10] <spacedust> i dont want to loose that
functionality
2527 [21:31:04] *** Quits: kliq (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2528 [21:33:12] *** Joins: kliq (~textual@replaced-ip )
2529 [21:33:21] *** Joins: Futha (~Futha@replaced-ip )
2530 [21:33:33] *** Joins: usr13 (~mythtv@replaced-ip )
2531 [21:33:42] *** Quits: expert975 (~xp@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2532 [21:35:55] *** Quits: jerdef82 (~jerdef@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2533 [21:36:05] *** Quits: haruspiiii (~pi@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2534 [21:36:13] *** Quits: DerLGm (~DerLGm@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2535 [21:36:25] <qman__> I use full disk encryption on SSDs, and
never bother with TRIM
2536 [21:36:35] <qman__> there's simply no need, modern SSDs
can handle the wear
2537 [21:37:40] <frostschutz> spacedust, you need allow-discards.
dmsetup table | grep crypt vs. | grep allow to check if you are
already using it
2538 [21:37:48] <qman__> my main workstation is on a samsung 840
pro with full disk encryption, set up circa 2012
2539 [21:38:00] *** Joins: stumpys (stumpys@replaced-ip )
2540 [21:38:09] *** Quits: OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2541 [21:38:13] *** Joins: arora (~ashok@replaced-ip )
2542 [21:38:28] *** Joins: stumpy (stumpys@replaced-ip )
2543 [21:38:35] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2544 [21:38:37] *** Quits: Ramakandra (~OS-33708@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
2545 [21:38:57] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2546 [21:39:45] *** Quits: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2547 [21:40:04] <spacedust> qman__: and no problems ?
2548 [21:40:14] <qman__> none, no appreciable wear
2549 [21:41:07] <qman__> unless you have a particularly heavy
write load for some special purpose, I would not bother
2550 [21:42:01] *** Quits: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - ##replaced-url
2551 [21:42:21] <spacedust> how to use that dmsetup command
exactly ?
2552 [21:42:21] *** Joins: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip )
2553 [21:42:22] *** Quits: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2554 [21:42:29] <spacedust> i can grep for crypt not for allow
2555 [21:42:41] <spacedust> qman__: system disk, logs ?
2556 [21:42:52] <qman__> single disk for the entire system
2557 [21:42:52] *** Joins: MichaH (~hessler@replaced-ip )
2558 [21:42:59] <qman__> no special considerations, regular
desktop setup
2559 [21:43:09] *** Joins: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip )
2560 [21:43:19] <qman__> default logging settings
2561 [21:43:20] *** Quits: Coachergirl (~m1zuki@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2562 [21:43:35] <frostschutz> spacebison, if the dmsetup table |
grep allow comes up empty then you're not using allow-discards.
with allow it looks like this
replaced-url
2563 [21:44:40] <frostschutz> not using TRIM is fine too, has
advantages such as... you have a chance at data recovery if you
accidentally delete something. because after TRIM it's really
gone
2564 [21:44:44] *** Quits: M6HZ (~M6HZ@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2565 [21:45:16] *** Quits: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2566 [21:45:35] *** Joins: shabius (~shabius@replaced-ip )
2567 [21:45:37] <spacedust> spacebison: ahaha :D they ment to tab
me :)
2568 [21:45:50] <frostschutz> but mkfs, lvm, swap and others might
use trim without asking you. if you don't want it, need to make
sure it's turned off. LUKS is the only case where you have to
deliberately turn it on
2569 [21:46:00] <spacedust> frostschutz: i dont mind if its really
gone
2570 [21:46:06] *** Quits: fixmer (~fixmer@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2571 [21:46:09] <spacedust> i hardly ever wanted to recover
deleted files :)
2572 [21:46:42] *** Joins: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip )
2573 [21:46:46] *** Joins: fixmer (~fixmer@replaced-ip )
2574 [21:47:04] <frostschutz> most people don't want to
either, sometimes they have to. better to have a good backup
solution :)
2575 [21:47:18] *** Quits: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2576 [21:47:29] *** Quits: [6667]ThinkTank (6667Thin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2577 [21:47:30] *** Joins: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip )
2578 [21:47:52] <qman__> see for yourself, SMART data on it
replaced-url
2579 [21:48:01] *** Quits: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2580 [21:48:13] *** Quits: lldd (~l@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2581 [21:48:18] *** Joins: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip )
2582 [21:50:06] *** Joins: bladeroc (~bladeroc@replaced-ip )
2583 [21:50:17] *** Quits: bladeroc (~bladeroc@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2584 [21:50:41] *** Quits: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2585 [21:50:51] *** Joins: mate-user (~mate-user@replaced-ip )
2586 [21:50:55] <qman__> over 10 TBW and 40,000 hours, no
reallocated sectors
2587 [21:50:59] <mate-user> hi everyone :)
2588 [21:51:17] *** Quits: OS-35900 (~OS-35900@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2589 [21:51:26] <mate-user> i made a distro poll here
replaced-url
2590 [21:51:28] *** Quits: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2591 [21:51:38] *** Quits: MichaH (~hessler@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2592 [21:51:41] *** Quits: freeman42x]NixOS (~freeman42@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2593 [21:51:52] *** Joins: pk12 (~pk12@replaced-ip )
2594 [21:52:15] *** Quits: stumpys (stumpys@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2595 [21:52:50] *** Quits: forgotmynick (uid24625@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2596 [21:53:19] *** Joins: [6667]ThinkTank (~Spacebase@replaced-ip )
2597 [21:53:24] *** Quits: PoaB (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: PoaB)
2598 [21:54:14] *** Quits: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2599 [21:54:28] *** Joins: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip )
2600 [21:54:38] *** Joins: OliverScoot (~OliverSco@replaced-ip )
2601 [21:55:50] *** Joins: nogravityrush (~textual@replaced-ip )
2602 [21:56:04] *** Joins: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip )
2603 [21:56:40] *** Joins: M6HZ (~M6HZ@replaced-ip )
2604 [21:56:47] <spacedust> qman__: thanks for the info\
2605 [21:56:49] *** Quits: idiocrash (~idiocrash@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
2606 [21:56:57] *** Joins: PoaB (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2607 [21:57:09] <spacedust> frostschutz: so i just add
allow_discard to the / mount *unencrypted root* in fstab ?
2608 [21:57:09] *** Joins: austin987 (~null@replaced-ip )
2609 [21:57:48] *** Joins: Night-Shade (~tim@replaced-ip )
2610 [21:57:48] <spacedust> mate-user: distro poll in a a distro
channel ? :)
2611 [21:58:00] <spacedust> or you are channel hopping and
advertising everywhere ? :)))
2612 [21:58:05] *** Quits: Ltem (~ltem@replaced-ip ) (Quit: bye)
2613 [21:58:06] <spacedust> there is distrowatch.org :)
2614 [21:59:08] <mate-user> spacedust, oh yeah thanks haha
2615 [21:59:18] *** Quits: PoaB (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2616 [21:59:28] <spacedust> mate-user: you the author of the
cryptopoll too ? :)
2617 [21:59:33] <mate-user> i only thought to post in channels
haha
2618 [21:59:56] <spacedust> what if one has more then one favorite
? :)
2619 [21:59:58] <spacedust> maybe i have 2-3 ?
2620 [22:00:02] *** Quits: keith20 (~keith20@replaced-ip ) (Quit: byeee)
2621 [22:00:26] <mate-user> no that cryptotool link shows on all
polls there
2622 [22:00:28] <spacedust> mate-user: wow there are a loooot of
distros
2623 [22:00:29] *** Joins: wonko (~wonko@replaced-ip )
2624 [22:00:36] <spacedust> tahts the problem with linux btw
toooooooo many distrorss
2625 [22:00:39] *** wonko is now known as wonko3232
2626 [22:00:51] <mate-user> yeah i added 307 distros, and only 200
show haha
2627 [22:00:58] *** Quits: OliverScoot (~OliverSco@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2628 [22:01:04] <mate-user> hoping lots of people vote
2629 [22:01:16] <spacedust> not a single vote for debian ? :D
2630 [22:01:26] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2631 [22:01:30] <mate-user> i should make a smaller one later with
the big names and independent distros
2632 [22:01:30] <spacedust> you can go to the next page on the
bottom for the rest
2633 [22:01:36] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2634 [22:01:41] <mate-user> oh right
2635 [22:01:42] <spacedust> oh no :)
2636 [22:01:45] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
2637 [22:01:48] <spacedust> lol no you cant its just view results
2638 [22:01:55] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2639 [22:01:57] *** Joins: ioc_ (~ioc__@replaced-ip )
2640 [22:01:59] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2641 [22:02:03] *** Quits: wonko3232 (~wonko@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2642 [22:02:32] <mate-user> yeah limited to 200
2643 [22:02:42] <mate-user> i think it's 200 anyway
2644 [22:02:47] *** Quits: Futha (~Futha@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2645 [22:03:00] *** Joins: wonko4242 (~wonko@replaced-ip )
2646 [22:03:20] *** Quits: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2647 [22:03:32] *** Joins: asdfdsa2472 (~asdfdsa24@replaced-ip )
2648 [22:03:44] *** Quits: Discovery (~Discovery@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2649 [22:04:01] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
2650 [22:04:11] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2651 [22:04:58] <mate-user> not many people voting haha
2652 [22:05:05] *** Quits: asdfdsa2472 (~asdfdsa24@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2653 [22:05:31] <mate-user> maybe i'm annoying them or nobody
interested haha
2654 [22:06:07] <un214> seriously, alphabet sort!
2655 [22:06:18] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
2656 [22:06:28] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2657 [22:06:29] *** Quits: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2658 [22:06:42] *** Joins: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip )
2659 [22:07:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1487
2660 [22:07:11] *** Quits: wonko4242 (~wonko@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2661 [22:07:25] *** Joins: zawadzki (~daugaard@replaced-ip )
2662 [22:07:32] *** Joins: unreg (~unreg@replaced-ip )
2663 [22:07:41] *** Quits: zawadzki (~daugaard@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2664 [22:08:35] *** Joins: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip )
2665 [22:08:44] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2666 [22:08:45] *** Quits: holmgren (magnus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2667 [22:08:58] <dtux> is there a way to check which packages are
installed by default on a given type of install (e.g. netinst, dvd1,
live, etc)
2668 [22:09:01] <dtux> ?
2669 [22:09:07] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2670 [22:09:17] *** Joins: Noldorin (~noldorin@replaced-ip )
2671 [22:10:06] *** Quits: phdigitos (~Known_pro@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
2672 [22:10:47] *** Joins: Aero (~uid97724@replaced-ip )
2673 [22:10:57] *** Quits: password8 (~password@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
2674 [22:11:16] *** Quits: Cornven (~Cornven@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2675 [22:11:59] *** Joins: OS-23277 (~OS-23277@replaced-ip )
2676 [22:12:13] *** Quits: [6667]ThinkTank (~Spacebase@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2677 [22:16:00] *** Quits: nibble_zero (~nibble_ze@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nibble_zero)
2678 [22:16:44] *** xcm is now known as Guest924
2679 [22:16:53] *** Quits: dasj (~daniel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2680 [22:17:08] *** Joins: [6667]ThinkTank (6667Thin@replaced-ip )
2681 [22:17:17] *** Quits: ruffni (~anonymous@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ruffni)
2682 [22:17:24] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
2683 [22:18:05] *** Quits: Guest924 (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2684 [22:18:38] *** Quits: mawesi (~mawesi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2685 [22:18:59] *** Joins: GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@replaced-ip )
2686 [22:19:03] *** Quits: Aussie_matt (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2687 [22:19:23] *** Quits: brokencycle_ (~brokencyc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2688 [22:19:45] *** Quits: fred`` (fred@replaced-ip ) (Quit: +++ATH0)
2689 [22:21:13] *** Quits: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
2690 [22:21:41] *** Joins: mawesi (~mawesi@replaced-ip )
2691 [22:21:57] *** Joins: ryouma (~user@replaced-ip )
2692 [22:22:14] *** Joins: nobodi (~nobodi@replaced-ip )
2693 [22:22:50] <ryouma> my new sound card on jessie looks like
" 1 [Device ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio Device C-Media Electronics
Inc. USB Audio Device at usb-0000:00:1d.2-1, full speed". what
do i do to get it to be the default sound card?
2694 [22:23:47] *** Joins: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip )
2695 [22:23:54] *** Quits: l (~LoRez@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2696 [22:24:14] *** Joins: Hemmmmy (~Hemmmmy@replaced-ip )
2697 [22:26:50] <ryouma> i tried
replaced-url
2698 [22:27:02] *** Joins: fred`` (fred@replaced-ip )
2699 [22:28:38] *** Joins: sh00p (~z@replaced-ip )
2700 [22:29:13] *** Quits: nogravityrush (~textual@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
2701 [22:29:44] *** Quits: arora (~ashok@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2702 [22:30:12] *** Joins: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip )
2703 [22:30:13] *** Parts: eMaks (~eMaks@replaced-ip ) ()
2704 [22:30:33] *** Quits: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2705 [22:32:10] *** Joins: nom-ent (~user@replaced-ip )
2706 [22:33:19] *** Joins: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip )
2707 [22:33:43] *** Quits: BluesKaj (Blues@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2708 [22:34:50] *** Joins: random-6881 (~hamza@replaced-ip )
2709 [22:36:05] <random-6881> Hi, Can someone please tell me about
a good source for someone migrating from ubuntu to debian ?
2710 [22:36:28] *** Quits: ungars (~ungars@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2711 [22:38:03] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2712 [22:38:19] *** Quits: edju (~edju@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2713 [22:38:40] *** Quits: powi (~powi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2714 [22:39:05] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
2715 [22:39:08] *** Quits: Night-Shade (~tim@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
2716 [22:39:13] <un214> I found it expediant to debootstrap
debian, install all equivalents, boot a live CD, and swap the
contents of / with a few mv commands
2717 [22:39:31] *** Joins: Night-Shade (~tim@replaced-ip )
2718 [22:39:38] *** Quits: mate-user (~mate-user@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2719 [22:39:48] <petn-randall> random-6881: It's fairly
straight-forward: Backup your /home, format the drive, install
Debian, restore your backups. I'd use the firmware installer if
you need working wifi during installation:
2720 [22:39:52] <petn-randall> !firmware installer
2721 [22:39:52] <dpkg> Debian-Installer is able to load additional
<firmware>, by including it within installation media or
supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See
replaced-url
2722 [22:41:18] <un214> on the other hand, debootstrap permits use
of ubuntu's drivers to perform the install and a backout path
2723 [22:41:21] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
2724 [22:41:29] <un214> but you must be familiar with console to
do it
2725 [22:43:38] *** Quits: Andros (~Andros@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2726 [22:44:32] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2727 [22:44:34] *** Quits: ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@replaced-ip ) (Read error: No route to host)
2728 [22:44:35] <random-6881> Thanks for your answers, I have
already installed debian but I have heard that it have some
limitations on the type of packages you can install on it for
example, I was hoping for a source that highlight the main
differences between ubuntu and debian (I use mostly the terminal)!
2729 [22:44:41] *** Quits: frju365[IRC] (~frju365@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2730 [22:44:57] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2731 [22:45:05] *** Quits: ryouma (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2732 [22:45:07] *** Joins: frju365[IRC] (~frju365@replaced-ip )
2733 [22:45:19] *** Joins: Wonko73 (~wonko73@replaced-ip )
2734 [22:45:19] *** Quits: Wonko73 (~wonko73@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2735 [22:45:19] *** Joins: certifie (5e8524c7@replaced-ip )
2736 [22:45:23] *** Joins: ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@replaced-ip )
2737 [22:45:28] <AlexPortable> Err
replaced-url
2738 [22:45:45] <certifie> #ubuntu is dead long live #debian
2739 [22:47:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1479
2740 [22:47:32] *** Joins: SamuraiFrog (~NuttyNutt@replaced-ip )
2741 [22:47:34] *** Joins: wonderworld (~ww@replaced-ip )
2742 [22:48:01] <AlexPortable> how do i fix this
2743 [22:48:08] *** Joins: Unknownuser (~Known_pro@replaced-ip )
2744 [22:48:28] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2745 [22:48:32] <AlexPortable> The following packages have unmet
dependencies: openjdk-8-jre-headless : Breaks: ca-certificates-java
(< 20160321~) but 20140324 is to be installed. E: Unable to
correct problems, you have held broken packages.
2746 [22:48:33] *** capn_ is now known as capn
2747 [22:48:47] *** Quits: Unknownuser (~Known_pro@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2748 [22:48:48] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2749 [22:49:10] *** Joins: Unknown_user (~Known_pro@replaced-ip )
2750 [22:49:24] *** Quits: goatish (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Hibernating)
2751 [22:50:33] *** Joins: goatish (~textual@replaced-ip )
2752 [22:50:39] *** Quits: Unknown_user (~Known_pro@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2753 [22:50:57] *** Joins: Unknownuser_br (~Known_pro@replaced-ip )
2754 [22:51:01] *** Quits: Nh3xus (~Nh3xus@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2755 [22:51:44] *** Joins: Wonko73 (~wonko73@replaced-ip )
2756 [22:51:56] *** Quits: LucaTM (~LucaTM@replaced-ip ) (Quit: To infinity and beyond...)
2757 [22:51:59] *** Quits: un214 (~un214@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2758 [22:52:26] *** Quits: Wonko73 (~wonko73@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2759 [22:52:26] <annadane> !bat
2760 [22:52:26] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
2761 [22:52:29] <annadane> AlexPortable, ^
2762 [22:52:31] *** Quits: Aero (~uid97724@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2763 [22:54:15] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
2764 [22:54:24] *** Joins: CME_ (~CME@replaced-ip )
2765 [22:55:04] <AlexPortable>
replaced-url
2766 [22:55:23] *** Quits: SamuraiFrog (~NuttyNutt@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2767 [22:55:38] *** Quits: CME (~CME@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2768 [22:55:52] <annadane> ,v openjdk-8-jre-headless
2769 [22:55:53] <judd> Package: openjdk-8-jre-headless on amd64 --
jessie-backports: 8u131-b11-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 8u151-b12-1~deb9u1;
stretch-security: 8u151-b12-1~deb9u1; buster: 8u151-b12-1; sid:
8u151-b12-1
2770 [22:55:54] *** Joins: SamuraiFrog (~NuttyNutt@replaced-ip )
2771 [22:55:58] *** Quits: SamuraiFrog (~NuttyNutt@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2772 [22:56:24] *** Joins: NuttyNutterson (~NuttyNutt@replaced-ip )
2773 [22:56:37] *** CME_ is now known as CME
2774 [22:56:38] *** Joins: Levi_19 (~androirc@replaced-ip )
2775 [22:56:50] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2776 [22:57:02] <AlexPortable> so?
2777 [22:57:11] *** Quits: LarArT (~LarArT@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2778 [22:57:12] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2779 [22:57:29] *** Quits: Shadowcrit (~Shadowcri@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2780 [22:57:31] <annadane> i would say, maybe try it with
aptitude? though 500
replaced-url
2781 [22:57:35] *** Quits: Levi_19 (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2782 [22:57:53] <annadane> and also it's not in regular
jessie, but in backports
2783 [22:58:50] *** Quits: Hemmmmy (~Hemmmmy@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2784 [22:59:04] *** Joins: blake2005 (~blake@replaced-ip )
2785 [22:59:09] *** Quits: blake2005 (~blake@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2786 [23:00:12] *** Quits: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
2787 [23:00:14] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2788 [23:00:38] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2789 [23:01:32] <annadane> ,v ca-certificates-java
2790 [23:01:34] <judd> Package: ca-certificates-java on amd64 --
wheezy: 20121112+nmu2; jessie: 20140324; jessie-backports:
20161107~bpo8+1; stretch: 20170531+nmu1; buster: 20170930; sid:
20170930
2791 [23:01:55] *** Joins: zyley (~zyley@replaced-ip )
2792 [23:02:46] *** Joins: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip )
2793 [23:02:51] *** Quits: azur_kind (~azur_kind@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2794 [23:03:04] *** Joins: Rossen (~ross@replaced-ip )
2795 [23:03:19] *** Quits: olafout (~chloubs@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2796 [23:03:33] *** Quits: sim590 (~sim590@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2797 [23:04:15] *** Quits: Levure (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2798 [23:05:34] <somiaj> dtux: the default pacakges are more
dependent on what you choose during the install phase. netinst vs
dvd1 is jsut the amount of packages avaiable on the install medium.
If you have network access you could get the same defaults from
both.
2799 [23:06:10] *** Quits: Unknownuser_br (~Known_pro@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
2800 [23:06:15] *** Joins: Maxii (~Temp123@replaced-ip )
2801 [23:06:20] <somiaj> !don't break debian
2802 [23:06:20] <dpkg> somebody said dont break debian was
replaced-url
2803 [23:06:38] <somiaj> random-6881: ^^ that is a good read if
you are new to debian
2804 [23:06:45] *** Joins: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip )
2805 [23:07:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1473
2806 [23:07:05] *** Parts: disruptivefour (~disruptiv@replaced-ip ) ()
2807 [23:07:32] *** Joins: Unknownuser_br (~Known_pro@replaced-ip )
2808 [23:08:05] *** Quits: Maxii (~Temp123@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2809 [23:08:08] *** Quits: frju365[IRC] (~frju365@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2810 [23:08:25] *** Joins: keepsmile (~keepsmile@replaced-ip )
2811 [23:08:31] *** Joins: frju365[IRC] (~frju365@replaced-ip )
2812 [23:08:31] *** Quits: frju365[IRC] (~frju365@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2813 [23:08:31] *** Joins: frju365[IRC] (~frju365@replaced-ip )
2814 [23:08:51] *** Joins: estremo (~estremo@replaced-ip )
2815 [23:08:59] *** Quits: keepsmile (~keepsmile@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2816 [23:09:40] *** Joins: horny_38m (~horny_38m@replaced-ip )
2817 [23:10:41] *** Quits: c0ncealed (c0ncealed@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2818 [23:10:53] *** Quits: estremo (~estremo@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2819 [23:11:06] *** Quits: id4rk (~id4rk@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2820 [23:11:06] *** Quits: horny_38m (~horny_38m@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2821 [23:11:16] *** Quits: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2822 [23:11:24] *** Joins: c0ncealed (c0ncealed@replaced-ip )
2823 [23:11:37] *** Joins: sim590 (~sim590@replaced-ip )
2824 [23:14:53] *** Quits: Nefertiti (~Nefertiti@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ZZZzzz)
2825 [23:15:00] *** Quits: ioc_ (~ioc__@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2826 [23:15:24] *** Joins: Smokes (~qwebirc@replaced-ip )
2827 [23:15:37] *** Quits: internot (~node1@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2828 [23:16:34] <unreg> Hi there! I need some help deleting a
corrupted directory
2829 [23:17:14] <unreg> I followed the intructions in this site
replaced-url
2830 [23:17:26] *** Joins: chomwitt (~chomwitt@replaced-ip )
2831 [23:17:36] <unreg> but don't work to me
2832 [23:17:39] *** Quits: scream (~scream@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2833 [23:18:17] *** Quits: Modeuse (~kvirc@replaced-ip##) (Quit: KVIrc 4.9.1 Aria ##replaced-url
2834 [23:18:27] *** Joins: nogravityrush (~textual@replaced-ip )
2835 [23:18:45] *** Joins: Modeuse (~kvirc@replaced-ip )
2836 [23:21:10] *** Joins: Brigo (~Brigo@replaced-ip )
2837 [23:21:20] *** Joins: internot (~node1@replaced-ip )
2838 [23:22:23] *** Quits: NuttyNutterson (~NuttyNutt@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2839 [23:22:49] *** Joins: ryouma (~user@replaced-ip )
2840 [23:26:28] *** Joins: Nefertiti (~Nefertiti@replaced-ip )
2841 [23:30:37] <hanasaki> how do you get arial and times roman
and courier installed in debian jessie with gnome?
2842 [23:31:13] *** Quits: XPUCTOB (~XPUCTOB@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2843 [23:32:44] *** Joins: galex-713_ (~galex-713@replaced-ip )
2844 [23:33:05] *** Quits: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2845 [23:33:45] <ryouma> synaptic might be useful if you want gui
2846 [23:33:57] <ryouma> it has a nice font display thing too
2847 [23:34:06] <ryouma> but most of us use apt-get, apt, or
aptitude i think
2848 [23:34:24] <mnuhmnuh> unreg: rm -r /path/to/dir
2849 [23:34:28] *** Quits: galex-713 (~galex-713@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2850 [23:35:10] *** Joins: donald1 (~donald@replaced-ip )
2851 [23:36:04] <unreg> mnuhmnuh: doesn't work
2852 [23:36:21] <unreg> seems something more complicated
2853 [23:36:22] <hanasaki> thanks. what about bookman? did seem to
be included
2854 [23:38:15] <unreg> returns an I/O error
2855 [23:39:04] <rant> unreg: have you tried to fsck?
2856 [23:39:19] *** Quits: dutchfish (~wil@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Splash, leaving the bowl)
2857 [23:39:46] *** Quits: Sri_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip##) (Quit: 15 minutes with you / oh, I wouldn't
say no... I wear black on the outside because black is how I feel
on the inside... Uso negro por fuera porque negro me siento por
dentro... ##replaced-url
2858 [23:40:07] *** Joins: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip )
2859 [23:40:26] *** Joins: Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@replaced-ip )
2860 [23:40:43] *** Quits: notadrop (~notadrop@replaced-ip ) (Quit: )
2861 [23:41:28] <unreg> at superuser.com find a post that says I
need to execute this command
2862 [23:41:35] *** Joins: keepsmile (~keepsmile@replaced-ip )
2863 [23:41:44] <unreg> sudo shutdown -r -F now
2864 [23:42:08] <unreg> can I trust?
2865 [23:42:29] *** Quits: keepsmile (~keepsmile@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2866 [23:42:38] *** Quits: certifie (5e8524c7@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
2867 [23:43:04] *** Joins: keepsmile (~keepsmile@replaced-ip )
2868 [23:43:50] *** Quits: keepsmile (~keepsmile@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2869 [23:44:02] <donald1> with the command apt-get --print-uris
--yes install <my_package_name> | grep ^\' | cut
-d\' -f2 >downloads.list I can get all the dependancies of a
package for a latter offline installation. Sadly I can not get the
packages allready installed. How to download even dependencies
already downloaded?
2870 [23:44:42] *** Quits: Unknownuser_br (~Known_pro@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
2871 [23:44:56] *** Quits: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2872 [23:45:40] *** Joins: wgertler (~william@replaced-ip )
2873 [23:45:42] *** Joins: d3b14nL0v3r (~Mutter@replaced-ip )
2874 [23:46:55] <d3b14nL0v3r> Is there a way to remove all
packages from deb-src at once, so to free up disk space? I guess
I'll never really need them.
2875 [23:47:08] *** Joins: ruffni (~anonymous@replaced-ip )
2876 [23:48:13] *** Joins: necrose99 (~necrose99@replaced-ip )
2877 [23:49:57] *** Quits: d3b14nL0v3r (~Mutter@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2878 [23:50:32] *** Quits: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2879 [23:50:38] *** Quits: wgertler (~william@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2880 [23:50:38] <bitess> source packages are not tracked like
installed binary packages are
2881 [23:50:51] <bitess> he gone :(
2882 [23:50:53] *** Joins: Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@replaced-ip )
2883 [23:52:06] *** Quits: nogravityrush (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My Mac Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2884 [23:52:40] *** Joins: LioneLL1 (~Pidgin@replaced-ip )
2885 [23:53:13] *** Quits: LioneLL (~Pidgin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2886 [23:54:31] *** Quits: Darcidride (~Darcidrid@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Bye.)
2887 [23:57:16] *** Joins: sibyakin (~sibyakin@replaced-ip )
↑ top
context: nick names on moving displays as market values
#debian Freenode IRC channel closed on 2021-06-01
contact: a @ her0. be