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0[00:00:46] <awal1> teraflops, you are right
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8[00:05:37] <Enrico_Menotti> Hello. I am running Jessie from a
live CD on an old laptop. I need to increase the aufs size. Is that
possible?
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20[00:09:56] <sine0> folks im stressing. i know this is not
quite your bag but you are the guys to knwo
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21[00:10:23] <sine0> how can you find the relative path to a a
file like images on a web server
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22[00:10:41] <sine0> i thought that ../../ would double back
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23[00:11:25] <mutante> sine0: since it's relative,
it's all relative
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24[00:11:30] <mutante> i mean, depends where you are
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26[00:11:34] <sine0> haha
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27[00:11:41] <sine0> "its all relative maaaaaan"
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29[00:12:05] <mutante> yea, dude, but you can use
"find" to find yourself some images, man
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30[00:12:15] <sine0> /home/public_html/images/hot.jpg
/home/public_html/index.php
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31[00:12:40] <sine0> I have tried so many variations in the a
href of hte image
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32[00:12:46] <mutante> sine0: that looks like it's missing
the user name in the path
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34[00:13:01] <sine0> im on a hosting platform i cant get back
that far
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38[00:14:11] <mutante> sine0: ok, so if you refer to hot.jpg
from index.php then use "./images/hot.jpg" as the relative
path
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40[00:14:13] <de-facto> hmm does debian provide any library for
the cpp 11 function std::put_time?
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48[00:18:02] <TomTomTosch> de-facto: it's in the standard
library, defined in the iomanip header.
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49[00:18:14] <de-facto> not for me i think
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50[00:18:33] <de-facto> i greped for it in the whole
/usr/include and it doesnt seem to be in any of the files tehre
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51[00:18:43] <de-facto> might be only in gcc5 or such
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53[00:19:14] <de-facto> yet the iomanip is there without it
though
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54[00:19:28] <de-facto> are there any fallbacks i could use?
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67[00:26:21] <Enrico_Menotti> Anybody may help me with my
question? (Don't want to be insistent, maybe nobody noticed
it.)
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95[00:38:28] <sorrySusan>
<SELECT>//SYSLIST//...pinG=[total]?=VERSIOn1010101001
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96[00:40:00] <mcintosh> yes
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97[00:40:01] <sorrySusan> what..a re you all too stupid to
speak back
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98[00:40:03] <sorrySusan> I see...
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99[00:40:25] <sorrySusan>
BREAK="Ice.Collectory..YyYyYy//=LAG.../?
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100[00:40:48] <sorrySusan> Good,... how bout that
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104[00:42:10] <sorrySusan> haha
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106[00:43:46] <c1a551f1ed> sorrySusan: Do you have a Debian
support issue?
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107[00:43:59] <sorrySusan> Seriously?
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108[00:44:10] <sorrySusan> are you... Edging me
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110[00:44:20] <c1a551f1ed> sorrySusan: Yes, seriously.
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112[00:44:32] <sorrySusan> To your lose
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114[00:45:10] <sorrySusan> 31.56.71.3
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115[00:45:16] <sorrySusan> Dallas?
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117[00:45:24] <sorrySusan> probablistic
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118[00:45:40] <sorrySusan> Your best stories are now your worst
enemies... haha
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119[00:45:41] <kline> sorrySusan, probably best to cut the
nonsense, thanks
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122[00:47:39] <sorrySusan> Oh...
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127[00:50:56] <alekz> Hi guys! I was about comming here for some
freezing support, but I noticed is not an OS related problem. You
know any channel where I can get help troubleshooting PSU or MoBo?
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128[00:51:11] <Papillon> search the channel list for hardware?
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129[00:51:17] <Papillon> maybe ##hardware?
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130[00:51:37] <Papillon> generally you just swap in something
that probably works, like swap a new psu
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131[00:51:41] <Papillon> or if you have a spare mobo
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133[00:52:17] <sorrySusan> lmfao
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134[00:52:19] <alekz> that's the problem, I don't have
any haha
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135[00:52:39] <alekz> I'll try to borrow a PSU
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136[00:52:44] <Papillon> well I suppose you could try to test
the psu with a multimeter
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137[00:52:56] <sorrySusan>
msg..//pop.Startup.Rerun.Register=Sumblime.
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138[00:53:06] <alekz> Do you have any spare psu you can send to
Mexico?
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139[00:53:07] <alekz> jk
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140[00:53:07] <missmbob> depending on the psu type you can jump
it with a paperclip to force it on. google it
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141[00:53:07] <alekz> xD
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142[00:53:27] <Plushfish> What's going on here?
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143[00:53:27] <alekz> thanks missmbob, I'll google it
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205[01:25:02] <awal1> any virtual keyboard DE independent apart
xvlbd & florence?
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206[01:25:14] <awal1> xvkbd
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226[01:32:42] <thecha> i am trying to change the ownership of a
folder on a nas with "sudo chown
replaced-url
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228[01:33:12] <missmbob> the fs of the nas doesnt allow it.
probably ntfs
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229[01:33:34] <thecha> ah because ntfs doesnt even have
ownership?
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231[01:33:48] <missmbob> no linux file attributes in ntfs
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234[01:34:07] <thecha> but when you go check it shows
nimby:nimby as owner and group
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237[01:34:31] <thecha> with xlr xdtew letters permissions type
things on the side
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241[01:35:28] <thecha> yeah right
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243[01:35:44] <thecha> maybe i didnt install ntfs-3g but my nas
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244[01:35:58] <c1a551f1ed> thecha: I assume it's mounted
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245[01:36:03] <thecha> so how can i change what apears to be
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247[01:36:54] <missmbob> thecha: nimby probably owned the dir
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250[01:37:27] <thecha> missmbob→ is there a way for
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251[01:37:38] <kline> thecha, iirc you can set a mapping on the
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253[01:37:54] <kline> i havent needed to do so since my old
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258[01:38:18] <thecha> i can google the details
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262[01:39:05] <kline> look at mapping users for whatever tools
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290[01:55:08] <Ooze> Hi, I'm having fstab errors when I add
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291[01:55:37] <Ooze> Here's my fstab file -- I've got
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317[02:10:06] <somiaj> Ooze: you may want to write a systemd
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318[02:11:00] <Ooze> It's fine if I have those other mount
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346[02:26:18] <Advait> Hi guys im starting an internship this
summer where i need to learn how to use bash. What are the basics
that i need to know and are there any good resources for me to learn
how to use bash quickly
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348[02:26:47] <missmbob> !bash pitfalls
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349[02:26:47] <dpkg> Read about common sh/bash script mistakes
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350[02:27:07] <missmbob> !tell Advait about bash faq
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352[02:27:45] <buu> Does libglobus-ftp-client2 have an actual
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353[02:27:47] <buu> like, executables
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354[02:28:32] <missmbob> buu: no executables.
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534[04:15:10] <JakeDean> I'm trying to display the php file
which I have located in /var/replaced-url
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537[04:15:44] <missmbob> #nginx might be better
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539[04:16:53] <JakeDean> missmbob: it gives me an error when I
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540[04:17:03] <missmbob> register your nick
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541[04:17:11] <JakeDean> i did
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609[05:16:42] <fweg> hello
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611[05:18:36] <fweg> you know when you download debian server,
install it and then boot into it you see all the lines of what
it's doing during boot? well i bought a VPS and installed
debian but i don't see any of that. can someone tell me how to
enable it please?
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612[05:19:00] <gry> ask your vps provider how to enter serial
console
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613[05:19:16] <gry> i had a prgmr vps once and it had this info
in its serial console. don't remember about linode
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615[05:19:52] <missmbob> linode has it in lish via web
interface. you can also set up ssh to lish but that's more
steps
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623[05:27:06] <jelly> fweg: Assuming you do have access to
console and are just not seeing a lot info at all. Removing
"quiet" from boot parameters will help a bit. Check lines
for GRUB_CMDLINE_* in /etc/default/grub and run
"update-grub" after editing the file.
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626[05:28:50] <fweg> jelly: thank you. is this good?
replaced-url
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631[05:31:34] <jelly> fweg: it depends on what kind of console
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632[05:32:18] <jelly> fweg: was line 9 already commented out?
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634[05:32:53] <fweg> jelly: yes
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636[05:33:59] <fweg> I will test it on another server
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638[05:34:01] <fweg> Thanks again
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641[05:35:27] <constantineXII> Hello debian users
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642[05:36:33] <mutante> sup Mo
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647[05:40:03] <daffy__> hey guys, I was wondering how to make a
debian testing clean install from cml
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649[05:40:33] <daffy__> installing gnome and gdm3 is enought?
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654[05:41:31] <theMagnumOrange> does debian have grsecurity by
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656[05:41:50] <mutante> daffy__: you can first install stable
and all the packages you want as normal and then edit
/etc/apt/sources.list, replace 'jessie' with
'stretch' and apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
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663[05:43:35] <constantineXII> can I install kde 5 on debian
jessie??
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665[05:44:30] <daffy__> mutante: I dont use all the apps
provided by default installation, I would like to know the sequence
of packages to install in net-installation in order to install only
the ones I use
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669[05:46:07] <mutante> daffy__: if you get the
"netinstall" image and during installer deselect all the
software you get pretty much that
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670[05:46:35] <mutante> daffy__: then you can start from the
minimal system and install packages you want. dependencies will be
pulled in
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671[05:47:28] <mutante> daffy__: here are netinstall images for
testing
replaced-url
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673[05:49:17] <daffy__> thanks mutante!
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698[06:06:42] <constantineXII> anyone uses kde on debian stable?
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706[06:09:22] <constantineXII> OK. Thanks!
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1089[07:56:46] <hmz365> "device-mapper: reload ioctl on
veracrypt1_0 failed: No such file or directory Command failed .
" Anyone encounter the same problem has been resolved, the
wing! Online is not the answer, for kernels from 3.14.54 to 4.5.2 is
still the same, I do not know where the problem.
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1100[08:03:02] <afidegnum> hello good morning,
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1101[08:03:02] <Papillon> try ##linux, I don't think this is
a debian specific issue and there may be more people that know about
that specific issue
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1102[08:03:06] <Papillon> hi
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1103[08:03:26] <afidegnum> on my laptop, the Fn key is not
working, i can't add a combination of Fn key to additional keys
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1104[08:03:39] <afidegnum> how do i fix it pls?
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1105[08:04:07] <Papillon> you might try asking in ##linux
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1116[08:07:37] <somiaj> afidegnum: depends on the laptop but the
Fn key may not generate a keycode by itself, it only generates
keycodes in special combinations
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1219[08:57:58] <MoepMan> hey, can someone tell me what the option
in preseed.cfg for stretch is that disables scanning for additional
cds/dvds? couldn't find it in either the example-preseed.cfg or
appendix B.4
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1273[09:16:02] <afidegnum> i tried all my best but the Fn key
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1277[09:17:27] <no_gravity> It seems everytime my wlan drops -
even if only for a few seconds - my ssh connections are dead
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1397[10:11:46] <abff> advanced package tool
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"packaging" :)
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1404[10:12:51] <petn-randall> Heh. Technically correct, the best
kind of correct. ;)
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1405[10:12:54] <abff> I appreciate pedantry
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1410[10:14:17] <grizzlyb> Haha thank you!!
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1436[10:28:17] <julius> hi
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1437[10:28:39] <julius> why cant i run this: -rwsr-Sr-- 1 root
root 1.3K Mar 27 10:20 gre_tunnel.sh as user, isnt it setuid root?
the commands in it need to be executed as root
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1451[10:36:19] <petn-randall> julius: Setting suid root on shell
scripts is considered insecure.
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1452[10:36:28] <julius> yes i am aware of that
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1453[10:36:36] <julius> not my first choice...
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1454[10:37:00] <blackflow> can't sudo?
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1455[10:37:12] <julius> need to start a GRE tunnel from a remote
host via a users ssh connection, the GRE tunnel needs a dynamic ip
as argument
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1456[10:37:28] <petn-randall> julius: Consider using sudo for
that, it's much safer.
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1457[10:37:33] <julius> im the only one working on that system
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1458[10:37:56] <petn-randall> julius: Setting a shell script suid
root is effectively giving everyone root that can execute it.
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1461[10:38:25] <julius> petn-randall, how are they executing code
that is not in the shell script?
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1462[10:38:39] <petn-randall> julius:
replaced-url
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1463[10:38:47] <julius> ok
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1465[10:39:30] <petn-randall> julius: Long story short: The user
controls the environment that is used in the shell script, which can
be leveraged to execute arbritary code as root.
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1466[10:39:35] <julius> but for sudo i need to enter a password,
right? how do i run this: ssh andromeda-inet ~/bin/gre_tunnel.sh
x.x.x.x with entering the sudo pw?
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1467[10:39:51] <petn-randall> julius: No, there's a NOPASSWD
option in sudo.
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1468[10:39:56] <julius> ah ok
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1469[10:39:58] <julius> thanks
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1470[10:40:10] <julius> wasnt aware that setuid can be that
dangerous
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1471[10:40:32] <petn-randall> julius: Just for completeness, the
reason your user can't execute that script is because that user
is missing executable rights.
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1472[10:41:12] <julius> because the would be "other" ?
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1474[10:41:25] <blackflow> julius: setuid is dangerous because it
gives root to _anyone_ who executes it. with sudo you can control
which user/group can execute this, as root, with/out password.
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1475[10:41:43] <blackflow> s/gives root/executes as root/
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1476[10:41:48] <julius> yes i will setup sudo
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1477[10:41:52] <petn-randall> julius: Since you have it setuid
and setgid root, the only option would be to make it
world-executable, effectively granting root to everyone (or play
around with ACLs).
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1478[10:42:33] <julius> petn-randall, no i mean...the user has no
executable rigths becuase the group or the other's has no x?
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1481[10:42:40] <julius> im guessing it is other's
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1482[10:43:22] <petn-randall> julius: If the user isn't
root, the rights it has on that file are defined in
"other". Since it's only readable, no user other than
root can execute it.
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1483[10:43:43] <julius> petn-randall, ah...yes r can be also x ok
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1484[10:43:56] <julius> thanks guys
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1486[10:44:42] <petn-randall> julius: No, r and x are different
permissions. Everyone can run 'cat gre_tunnel.sh' to see
the contents, but only root can currently execute it.
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1489[10:46:12] <tnorth> hi there
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1507[10:52:17] <delkin> Hello :) Does anyone know how I can
install python-sphinx (>=1.5) through debian package manager?
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1515[10:54:26] <delkin> When I run debian-dev-build.sh it keeps
complaining that python-sphinx is not installed with the correct
version… And installing with PIP does not solve the issue :(
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1525[10:57:45] <blackflow> delkin: use a virtualenv and inside
it, install whatever version with pip
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1538[11:00:18] <mab_> blackflow: what if he wants to use the
package manager? Are there any ppa available?
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1546[11:02:19] <delkin> blackflow: unfortunately that doesnt
work… :( debian-dev-build.sh keeps complaining that sphinx is
not installed
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1549[11:02:52] <delkin> blackflow: i think i must do it through
the debian package manager
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1561[11:08:29] <blackflow> delkin: well, there's 1.5.3 in
experimental, but that would mean mixing packages, not sure
that's wise. debian-dev-build.sh, which package is that from?
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1563[11:10:20] <blackflow> delkin: is this for lava?
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1564[11:10:29] <delkin> blackflow: yeah, exactly
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1566[11:10:57] <blackflow> delkin: but it's not coming from
a package, is it?
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1568[11:11:47] <dynek> I'm unable to find how I can
download/install snmp mibs on stretch - anyone would have a clue?
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1570[11:12:07] <delkin> blackflow: no, I am using this script
here:
replaced-url
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1572[11:12:17] <delkin> blackflow: which should generate a .deb
file
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1574[11:12:41] <delkin> blackflow: but fails complaining that
python-sphinx is not >=1.4
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1575[11:13:03] <blackflow> delkin: well I don't know
anything about that software, I just found debian-dev-build.sh
mentioned in its context. I asked because if it was coming from a
package, you should report a bug about wrong dependencies.
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1577[11:13:29] <blackflow> delkin: but since it's not....
install virtualenv, install python-sphinx 1.5 in it, and with the
virtualenv active, run your debian-dev-build.sh script.
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1578[11:13:31] <delkin> blackflow: that is sensible
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1581[11:14:04] <delkin> blackflow: i have tried that. I complains
that sphinx is not installed
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1583[11:14:10] <delkin> It*
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1585[11:14:20] <blackflow> maybe there is a PPA for sphinx
but.... I'd never recommend using PPAs, only official and
sanctioned repositories.
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1587[11:14:37] <blackflow> delkin: you ran the script in the
shell where virtualenv with sphinx installed was active?
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1589[11:14:38] <dynek> answering to self: non-free!
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1590[11:14:50] <OS-27693> hi everyone
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1591[11:15:00] <OS-27693> what's up?
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1596[11:15:55] <lixus> to whom it may concern: One of the two
snapshot.debian.org DNS round robin adresses does not work
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1597[11:15:59] <delkin> blackflow: exactly. If I run
sphinx-builder —version it actually shows the version I need.
Although, when I run that lava script it keeps complaining that
sphinx version is not > 1.4
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1598[11:16:00] <lixus> curl --header
"Host:snapshot.debian.org" -I
replaced-url
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1599[11:16:14] <OS-27693> I'm a noob in OSCP course
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1600[11:16:24] <lixus> versus: curl --header
"Host:snapshot.debian.org" -I
replaced-url
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1601[11:16:39] <delkin> blackflow: i guess this script is looking
for deb package manager for dependencies
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1602[11:16:59] <delkin> blackflow: and misses the fact that
sphinx is already installed with the version needed
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1603[11:17:12] <OS-27693> I didn't understand a thing. If i
hack the majority of lab machines in the public net, is it
sufficient to be prepared for the exam?
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1605[11:18:39] <blackflow> delkin: is there a public url for that
script? github or something? I wanna take a look
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1606[11:19:29] <delkin> blackflow: this is the script that should
generate the .deb file when all dependencies are met:
replaced-url
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1608[11:19:47] <delkin> blackflow: the lava .deb file
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1610[11:21:24] <dadinn> hi all
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1611[11:21:26] <blackflow> delkin: looking at the
pkg-lava-server, it looks like it depends on python-sphinx (>=
1.4)
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1612[11:21:29] <blackflow> delkin: not 1.5
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1614[11:21:55] <dadinn> I think I have run into something similar
to bug simply disregard any dependencies which have been specified
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1615[11:21:59] <delkin> blackflow: correct. I was too
“agressive” on my request
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1616[11:22:17] <dadinn> sorry, bug #754218
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1617[11:22:17] <delkin> blackflow: the default version debian
installs is 1.2
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1618[11:22:18] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1619[11:22:37] <delkin> blackflow: the issue remains
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1620[11:22:47] <blackflow> delkin: on jessie? install it from
jessie-backports
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1622[11:23:43] <blackflow> delkin: and please don't make up
information in your request for help. had you said 1.4 the first
time, the answer would be quicker without wasting anyone's time
to look up and find possible cause fo nonexisting 1.5 requirement.
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1623[11:23:43] <delkin> blackflow: I have added deb
replaced-url
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1624[11:23:56] <dadinn> I have a interface.d/wlan0 file for my
wifi with psk passphrase, and the boot stalls with the same issue
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1625[11:24:04] <delkin> blackflow: that is not working
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1626[11:24:23] <dadinn> is this a known issue? When I remove it
it boots fine
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1627[11:24:23] <blackflow> delkin: jessie-backports has
python-sphinx 1.4.9 according to that script and pkg-lava-server
repo, that should suffice
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1630[11:26:19] <delkin> blackflow: so, I added the above line to
my sources.list; then ran apt-get update; then apt-get install
python-sphinx. However sphinx 1.2 is being installed
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1631[11:27:45] <delkin> blackflow: i am using debian jessie
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1632[11:28:10] <blackflow> delkin: apt-get -t jessie-backports
install python-sphinx
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1633[11:28:47] <delkin> blackflow: you are my heroe!!!
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1634[11:29:01] <blackflow> yay!
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1635[11:29:04] <delkin> \o/
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1675[11:54:45] <thereyougo> any suggestion of a tyniest live CD ?
that uses under 64MB of RAM ? I don't need X, only command line
so I can ssh to it
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1684[11:57:44] <rjsalts> thereyougo: you could just use the
installer maybe?
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1701[12:03:25] <abff> hey guys I am currently messing around with
a GTK theme for my lightdm-gtk-greeter. I was wondering how could I
go about starting another instance of LIGHTDM in a tty
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1710[12:06:18] <Papillon> control alt f2?
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1712[12:07:45] <abff> yes that gets me to a tty but I don't
know how to start a second instance of my dm, but don't worry
about it I'll just keep loging out and back in
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1719[12:12:04] <rufus> hello everybody..newbie here ...tryig to
install debian in virtual box follwoing tutorials..evrything goes
well ut when sys boots i get root and terminal commands instead of
GUI..what is wrong?
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1726[12:14:08] <ber532k> rufus: What exactly did you install?
This might be what's supposed to happen.
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1728[12:14:41] <ber532k> Do you get any error messages?
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1731[12:16:54] <rufus> ber532k: I tried with
debian-8.7.1-amd64-netinst and debian-8.7.1-amd64-CD-1...same result
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1733[12:17:26] <ber532k> No error messages?
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1734[12:18:39] <rufus> ber532k: no everything goes smooth and
boots correctly but in terminal...how o get a GUI?
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1737[12:19:51] <ber532k> First you'd want to log in
(probably as root) and check X11 is indeed installed.
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1738[12:20:11] <ber532k> Try logging in.
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1739[12:20:17] <rufus> ber532k: i correctly log in
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1744[12:21:36] <ber532k> Try `which startx` (not sure if it is
included though)
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1746[12:22:59] <rufus> ber532k: usr/bin/startx
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1748[12:23:14] <ber532k> ok, great
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1749[12:23:46] <ber532k> You might want to create some sort of
user first, so you don't have to do everything as root ...
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1750[12:24:12] <ber532k>
replaced-url
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1751[12:24:14] <rufus> ber532k: actally i created user during the
configuration process
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1752[12:24:30] <ber532k> ok, so log out back in as that user
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1754[12:25:11] <rufus> how to do it from root?
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1755[12:25:11] <dA3M0n23> hello
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1756[12:25:32] <ber532k> `exit` logs you out
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1757[12:25:57] <ber532k> afterwards just log back in with your
username
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1758[12:26:22] <rufus> ber532k:ok logged in
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1760[12:26:29] <rufus> sill no gui
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1762[12:26:51] <ber532k> `startx`
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1764[12:27:27] <ber532k> This might produce an error, if no
Desktop Environment is installed or if it is configured badly.
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1765[12:28:22] <ber532k> But then at least we know X11 (the
graphical server on which most Desktop Environments run) is there
all right.
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1766[12:28:33] <rufus> no erro...now just increased terminal size
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1767[12:28:37] * ssarah hallo
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1769[12:29:07] <ber532k> Did you choose any Desktop Environment
during install?
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1770[12:29:14] <rufus> and poiinter is an X now
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1771[12:29:24] <rufus> yes if I remember well
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1773[12:30:04] <ber532k> ok, so X11 works all right ;)
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1774[12:30:19] <ber532k> switch to another tty and kill X11
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1775[12:30:29] <rufus> no idea what you mean
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1776[12:30:44] <ber532k> Ctrl-Alt-F2 should open another login
prompt
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1778[12:30:57] <rufus> ok
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1780[12:31:12] <ber532k> then run `killall -QUIT Xorg` to kill
the X-server you just started
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1781[12:32:12] <ber532k> this should take you back to tty1 (where
the Xserver was started) and throw a bunch of messages.
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1783[12:32:50] <rufus> killa ommand not found
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1784[12:33:09] <rufus> killall command not found
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1786[12:33:15] <thereyougo> rjsalts: no, LiveCD, I want to run 10
qemu virtual machines
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1789[12:33:31] <ber532k> ok, something else:
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1790[12:33:38] <thereyougo> but I can allocate only under 64MB
per VM
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1792[12:34:16] <ber532k> on tty2 (you got there via Ctrl-Alt-F2)
try running `which gnome-session`
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1795[12:35:29] <rufus> ok entered
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1796[12:35:41] <ber532k> Does that return some path?
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1798[12:35:55] <rufus> no
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1800[12:36:17] <ber532k> Then I guess gnome is not installed.
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1802[12:36:42] <rufus> cxan you send me a link to restart the
installation on virtualbox? ay be the one I got was not good
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1804[12:36:53] <ber532k> Did you by chance install any other
Desktop Environment? Xfce4, Kde, Lxde, Mate, Cinnamon?
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1806[12:37:22] <rufus> absolutely no
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1807[12:38:00] <ber532k> Is internet working from the virtual
machine?
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1808[12:38:17] <rufus> how to chek?
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1809[12:38:37] <ber532k> `ping -c2
replaced-url
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1811[12:39:01] <ber532k> If that returns 0% Package loss
it's working
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1812[12:39:07] <rufus> ber532k: will give it another try and
revert... thanks for y our patience
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1813[12:39:26] <petn-randall> ber532k: Last time I checked ping
doesn't cope with url but domains.
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1814[12:39:35] <ber532k> `ping -c2
replaced-url
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1816[12:40:00] <ber532k> petn-randall: just found out myself,
thanks
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1818[12:40:30] <ber532k> rufus: Good luck!
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1937[13:50:14] <guest___> Hello. I'm facing "man:
can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are
correct" when running man, although $LANG is correctly set.
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1938[13:50:29] <guest___> I've already ran locale-gen to no
use. Any hints?
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1941[13:51:45] <c1a551f1ed> guest___: On Jessie?
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1942[13:52:06] <guest___> c1a551f1ed: Yes, on Jessie.
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1943[13:52:19] <c1a551f1ed> guest___: You could try forcibly
correcting the system's locale.
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1944[13:52:30] <c1a551f1ed> guest___: localectl set-locale
<whatever>
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1945[13:52:34] <Brigo> guest___, check localectl
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1946[13:52:46] <c1a551f1ed> guest___: localectl set-locale
en_US.UTF-8 for example.
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1947[13:53:37] <guest___> `Failed to issue method call: Invalid
Locale data.` I tried with both en_US.UTF-8 and en_US.utf8 FWIW.
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1949[13:54:08] <c1a551f1ed> guest___: And that locale was
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1950[13:54:49] <guest___> c1a551f1ed: Yes, `locale-gen` tells me
that en_US.UTF-8 was properly generated.
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1956[13:56:41] <guest___> Also, FWIW, `locale` tells me that
`LANG=en_US.UTF-8` but other values (such as LC_PAPER) are set to
`pt_BR.UTF-8`. I don't know why it is set that way; I've
never enabled that locale (although my timezone is set to
America/Sao_Paulo and my keyboard layout is also a br-abnt one).
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1961[13:58:21] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
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1962[13:58:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
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1963[13:58:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
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1965[13:58:49] <guest___> Apologies. Ignore the `Invalid Locale
data` error message, please, I've used a wrong cmdline. Still,
the original problem persists.
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1966[13:58:50] <BluesKaj> oops
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1980[14:07:03] <ksk_> hola
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1983[14:07:45] <ksk_> how do I add an IP to an interface, that
linux does not arp for? If I do "ip a s" I see "<
[snip] NOARP >" in there - but the machine is still arping
for that IP :/
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1990[14:10:47] <guest___> I've managed to fix it by manually
setting LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8. No idea why it wasn't set before.
I'll jot that in /etc/environment.
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2000[14:12:44] <zero-crypto> Holla All
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2010[14:21:17] <ksk> I know set arp_ignore for that interface
(dummy0) to "8". I am however wondering that this noarp in
<> is for?
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2012[14:22:36] <guest___> Oh, wow. Actually LC_ALL is unset and I
was ssh'ing into the buggy machines. The problem is not even
Debian related. Bitten by ssh idiosyncrasies once more.
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2014[14:23:51] <colo-work> env scrubbing is real
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2015[14:23:56] <colo-work> you better respect it!
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2018[14:24:25] <jelly> also, locale names vary between different
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2070[14:52:13] <jer0me> hey there. What's the recommend
"acpi" setup for a laptop with no DE nowadays on debian
stable to get suspend/resume on lid close, acpi buttons, vol
control, autoswitch to low power consumption on battery etc? There
seems to be quite a choice.
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2074[14:53:49] <sonOfRa> jer0me: back when I used debian (gnome
on jessie), it did all that. There was no "setup"
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2075[14:53:55] <jer0me> On my thinkpad x220 (~5yo), most things
work with acpid, but I have to write some scripts for screen
brightness, volume, and so on. apmd handles those ootb on openbsd. I
think I may have done a non optimal choice :)
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2080[14:55:31] <jer0me> sonOfRa: yep I guess, but I don't
use gnome. I have searched and found acpid, acpi-support, tpd,
laptop-mode-tools, systemd even has some features. I'm a bit
lost.
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2098[15:02:35] <jelly> how do I tell grub2 on jessie to boot into
an older kernel? setting GRUB_DEFAULT= to a non-zero value does not
seem to count older kernels that are now present in the
"advanced" submenu
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2104[15:04:20] <ksk> hehe, good to see other regular debian user
have problems with that, not only me ;)
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2105[15:04:32] <ksk> let me thing how I solved that last time :o
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2106[15:04:38] <ksk> *think
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2107[15:05:30] <ksk> jelly: IIRC you could give it values like
1-5 where 1 would be first(second?) submenu and 5 the entry in that
submenu
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2118[15:10:22] <Verity> why cant I install packages
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2119[15:10:27] <Verity> how could a debian install break on its
own
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2121[15:10:30] <Verity> or could someone have hacked it remorely
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2122[15:10:33] <Verity> to destroy it
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2124[15:10:47] <Verity> I see people trying to send shell codes
to my server
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2128[15:12:30] <c1a551f1ed> What is your actual issue?
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2136[15:15:53] <rafalcpp> Verity: what is the error message?
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2137[15:16:07] <rafalcpp> how to recreate /boot/initrd....img
file?
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2140[15:17:16] <Verity> ok
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2141[15:17:19] <Verity> someone hacked me?
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2142[15:17:24] <Verity>
replaced-url
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2143[15:17:28] <Verity> why would that be in my sources.list
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2147[15:19:01] <rafalcpp> Verity: do you run linux or raspbian?
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2148[15:19:04] <rafalcpp> Verity: do you run debian or raspbian?
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2150[15:19:24] <jelly> Verity: that link is a 404
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2151[15:19:31] <Verity> yeah its not real
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2152[15:19:33] <Verity> its someones IP
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2153[15:19:35] <Verity> they must have broken in
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2154[15:19:38] <Verity> and put that in my sources
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2155[15:19:40] <jelly> and in case you're on raspbian,
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2156[15:19:41] <Verity> to install malicious packages
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2157[15:19:41] <jelly> !raspbian
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2158[15:19:42] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on
Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian
is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use
#raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.
replaced-url
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2159[15:19:51] <Verity> raspbia, yes
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2161[15:20:06] <BluesKaj> looks like raspbian to me , I run it
too, get help in #raspberrypi , Verity
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2162[15:20:09] <Verity> ok
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2163[15:20:41] <BluesKaj> or #raspbian as posted above
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2164[15:20:43] <jelly> Verity: or it could just be a mirror, IP
hardcoded to work even when dns resolving fails
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2166[15:21:03] <userro> yea
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2167[15:21:09] <userro> that could be top
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2168[15:21:15] <userro> too
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2171[15:21:22] <jelly> dig +short -x 108.166.161.136
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2172[15:21:29] <jelly> mirrors.lucidnetworks.net.
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2173[15:21:33] <jelly> whatever that is
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2175[15:21:48] <rafalcpp> jelly: is it possible to recreate that
/boot/initrd?
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2176[15:21:56] <jelly> redrabbit: update-initramfs
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2177[15:21:57] <rafalcpp> so far debian failed me on this task :/
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2178[15:22:13] <rafalcpp> jelly: it does not recreate that file
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2179[15:22:43] <jelly> you do not need a file with that exact
path
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2182[15:23:00] <jelly> unless you're doing something unusual
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2183[15:23:00] <rafalcpp> jelly: -c -k all and no initrd file was
created in /boot/
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2185[15:23:34] <jelly> rafalcpp: which debian release? pastebin
the output
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2186[15:23:54] <rafalcpp> jelly: deleted /boot/initrd....img
because it seem to included inside wrong copy of raid conf.
mkinitramfs -k all -c did not create any in /boot , no error
messages
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2188[15:24:11] <rafalcpp> jelly: btw doing that from inside
installer's rescue mode, chrooted into the target system
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2189[15:24:26] <jelly> what is mkinitramfs? Which debian release
is this?
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2190[15:24:47] <rafalcpp> jelly: debian 8 amd64
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2196[15:25:44] <rafalcpp> jelly: ok will try again the damaged
system then. one moment. (was about to give up and reinstall)
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2199[15:26:11] <jelly> rafalcpp: I have no idea what mkinitramfs
is and what the correct parameters for it would be. I suggested
update-initramfs.
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2208[15:33:39] <rafalcpp> jelly: ok, so using update-initramfs -v
-c -k all . it does not recreate the /boot/initrd...img file. I
delted that file because I think there debian stored invalid old
copy of /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf which was prohibiting bootup
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2209[15:34:14] <rafalcpp> all the output from that command is
"Nothing to do, exiting"
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2217[15:35:44] <jelly> rafalcpp: do you have any kernels in
/boot/ at all?
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2219[15:36:28] <rafalcpp> jelly: yes, I did not delted other
files there, there is vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 and kernel boots up
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2220[15:36:29] <jelly> rafalcpp: pastebin the output of your
"update-initramfs -v -c -k all", and, dunno, "ls -la
/boot /lib/modules"
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2223[15:37:49] <rafalcpp> jelly: hard to pastebin (rescue shell),
but /boot/ has Syste.map and config and vmlinuz for 3.16.0-4 and a
grub/ ; and /lib/modles have 3.16.0-4-amd64
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2224[15:38:18] <rafalcpp> jelly: this is fresh install, it was
overall booting up, except for not being able to open root
filesystem in init scripts, because of wrong mdadm.conf
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2225[15:38:32] <rafalcpp> System.map
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2231[15:42:17] <rafalcpp> jelly: I see that
/var/lib/initramfs-tools/ is empty here. there should be a kernel
here?
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2239[15:44:37] <G4F21_> I've added to /etc/sysctl.conf
"kern.warning /var/log/iptables" and the logs are in
/var/log/messages
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2243[15:45:25] <petn-randall> G4F21_: What is that supposed to
do?
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2247[15:45:53] <rafalcpp> cat fuck_this_fucking_shit >
/var/lib/initramfs-tools/3.16.0-4-amd64 and THEN calling
update-initramfs fixed it, jelly
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2248[15:46:14] <G4F21_> petn-randall: I don't wanna keep
rubbish in /var/log/messages
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2249[15:46:33] <petn-randall> !goal
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2250[15:46:33] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the
solution is.
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2252[15:46:37] <petn-randall> G4F21_: ^^^
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2253[15:46:41] <rafalcpp> seems like a bug, where -c (create)
works more like update.
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2254[15:47:07] <BluesKaj> rafalcpp, nice language there, not
necessary
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2256[15:48:10] * petn-randall wonders if rafalcpp meant echo instead of
cat.
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2257[15:48:16] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: indeed
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2258[15:48:33] <G4F21_> petn-randall: what?
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2259[15:49:12] <jelly> rafalcpp: that's... weird
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2261[15:49:19] <petn-randall> G4F21_: You described a solution
that doesn't work. We don't even know what you're
trying to achieve. If you tell us that, we could give suggestions
what you need to do.
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2263[15:50:02] <rafalcpp> jelly: will bug report it. Also,
it's all due to really buggy installer
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2264[15:50:20] <G4F21_> petn-randall: I want to keep iptables
logs in /var/log/iptables not in /var/log/message
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2265[15:50:40] <jelly> rafalcpp: especially if you can reproduce
it reliably
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2266[15:50:45] <rafalcpp> somehow the god damned insaller found
out that there was a RAID on the disk, even after the disk was
zeroed out, and rebootted, still the installer found the old raid
(how??????) and created two md0 entries in mdadm.conf
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2269[15:51:30] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: I guess you didn't
zero it out then.
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2270[15:51:37] <rafalcpp> granted the hdd was only partially
wiped out, but partition table was gone. how it discovered old
software raid O_o
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2271[15:51:42] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: What command did you use
to wipe it?
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2273[15:51:46] <jelly> rafalcpp: did you zero start 1M and end 1M
of every partition and disk?
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2276[15:53:01] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: jelly zeroed beginning of
sdb enough so that the installer partitioner stopped showing old
partitions and raid and just shown it as unformatted disk with
nothing existing logically
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2277[15:53:10] <rafalcpp> * after restart
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2281[15:53:24] <G4F21_> petn-randall: get out of here now
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2283[15:53:36] <rafalcpp> dunno. it's as if scanned disk and
somehow discovered old raid headers. strange story isn't it
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2284[15:53:41] <grizzlyb> what is the difference between a debian
and debian mac iso?
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2285[15:53:42] <rafalcpp> maybe will have time to reproduce that
one one day
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2286[15:53:43] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: Try reading the man page
before complaining about things that are already documented.
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2287[15:54:01] <petn-randall> G4F21_: What? Why?
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2288[15:54:08] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: users never do, if
it's important it should be displayed inside installer
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2291[15:54:59] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: the mdraid tools already
have an option to wipe the metadata. You just have to use it.
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2294[15:55:20] <G4F21_> I won't waste time on this prick
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2299[15:55:31] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: how can installer find
old meta-data, if the partition sdb3 containing it is gone (by
removing partition table)?
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2300[15:55:33] <jelly> !next
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2301[15:55:33] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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2303[15:56:01] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: Have you read the man
page yet? It would cut the discussion down greatly.
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2306[15:58:27] <rafalcpp> jelly: now the problem is different,
can not find root fs.
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2310[15:59:23] <rafalcpp> that's the classical one. brb,
should be very easy
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2311[16:00:06] <TomyWork> is /var/tmp cleaned up automatically on
wheezy?
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2312[16:00:40] <TomyWork> I'm missing a few files from there
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2313[16:00:56] <petn-randall> TomyWork: Not if it's on
physical disk.
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2314[16:01:02] <TomyWork> it is
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2316[16:01:18] <petn-randall> TomyWork: Restore from backups?
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2318[16:01:35] <TomyWork> petn-randall who backups a tmp
directory? :)
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2320[16:01:53] <petn-randall> TomyWork: Then the data isn't
important, I guess. :)
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2322[16:02:11] <rafalcpp> or not. What was the suntax for grub
option linux /vmlinuz.... root=??? ? the /boot is ext4 on sdb1. the
actuall root is on encrypted partition that init scripts should open
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2323[16:02:13] <petn-randall> TomyWork: But seriously though,
there's no tmpreaper on a usual instllation.
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2324[16:02:17] <TomyWork> it's not that important. i just
want to know if there's an automatism before i tell people that
some*one* deleted it :)
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2327[16:03:22] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: which part of "man
mdadm"? I don't see it
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2336[16:05:52] <rafalcpp> is it --zero-superblock
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2339[16:06:46] <coke> TomyWork: everyone who uses snapshots
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2340[16:06:53] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: Could be. What does the
description say?
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2341[16:07:13] <coke> on the underlaying storage
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2342[16:07:25] <rafalcpp> If the device contains a valid md
superblock, the block is overwritten with zeros.
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2343[16:07:29] <tdn> I get a lot of ACPI errors in dmesg
everytime I run 'sensors' (lm-sensors). How do I fix this
problem?
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2348[16:09:43] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: Does that answer your
question?
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2352[16:12:03] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: no
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2354[16:12:38] <rafalcpp> still no idea how it survived, and
still debian installer should add option to nuke/ignore preexisting
partitions it "helpfully" auto discovers
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2356[16:13:38] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: It already has the
option? You just didn't use it.
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2360[16:14:34] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: So we already found the
option to wipe the superblock. Now we'll take a look at the
meta-data format, which is also defined in there. Look up the
meta-data formats.
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2363[16:16:20] <XeonSquared> Is it possible to use a kernel as
old as 3.2 on Debian 8?
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2364[16:17:15] <abrotman> you can try anything you want, it
won't be supported, and probably won't work
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2366[16:19:17] <XeonSquared> That's comforting.
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2367[16:19:19] <BluesKaj> XeonSquared, suspect you have an app
that needs a regression ?
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2369[16:19:46] <XeonSquared> BluesKaj: More like a machine. Newer
ATI video drivers don't support the weird GPU in an old Mac
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2370[16:20:02] <XeonSquared> You can get sane output with a
little messing around but no hardware acceleration or anything like
that
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2371[16:20:40] <petn-randall> XeonSquared: systemd makes heavy
use of cgroups which old kernels don't support. I'd rather
find a way to get it running on a newer kernel, maybe even try the
one on backports.
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2374[16:22:18] <XeonSquared> Well, the machine is currently
running Debian 7, because it's flawless. No xorg.conf
neccesary. Kernel 3.2. I tried 8 for a while but like I said, the
ATI driver doesn't like the GPU, so I don't think a newer
kernel is an option.
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2375[16:22:47] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: well --metadata says that
meta should be at 4K from start, and on end. Hm, it's in that
places in entire "sda" when raid is created on
"sda3"?
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2377[16:23:41] <petn-randall> XeonSquared: I'm guessing that
you don't need to install an extra driver with newer kernels,
they support the ATI cards with the FOSS one.
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2380[16:24:02] <XeonSquared> petn-randall: no driver neccesary on
the old one
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2381[16:24:07] <XeonSquared> It worked out of the box.
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2382[16:24:34] <XeonSquared> ... That term isn't entirely
accurate, but anyway.
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2383[16:24:39] <petn-randall> XeonSquared: I see. Then it should
also work on newer kernels, though regressions are possible.
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2385[16:25:14] <XeonSquared> Welp, a fresh install can do X
happily on 7, but on 8 I get 4 shades of purple and if I fix that I
don't get 3D acceleration so I guess that's a regression.
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2386[16:25:19] <rafalcpp> hm after fresh install, still the boot
process can not find LV with root, it does not ask for password. Why
this could be, the encryption was created during installation (the
same way that always worked)
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2387[16:26:03] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: If you have the meta-data
block at the end of the partition, and you overwrite only the
beginning of the disk, have you overwritten the meta-data?
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2390[16:26:32] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: effectivly it can not be
find, without scanning entire disk, if system doesnt know on which
sector sda3 was beginning
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2391[16:27:24] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: And what happens if the
system reads it from the end of the disk?
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2392[16:27:26] <rafalcpp> so metadata that was in sda3+0 or
sda3+4096, or sda3+sizeof(sda3) , should be inaccessible after
partition table was killed and system rebooted
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2394[16:28:13] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: on end of entire sda
there is raid data for raids sda3, sda4, sda5 all together?
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2395[16:28:24] <rafalcpp> well that would survive yeah
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2401[16:29:34] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: The mdraid doesn't
care much about partitions. If there's no partition table,
it'll just read the meta-data from the end of the disk.
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2402[16:30:13] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: But this in not a
problem, because if you actually *use* the installer to remove
mdraid, it'll wipe the superblock.
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2403[16:31:18] <BluesKaj> XeonSquared, assume you tried
older/legacy drivers on debian 8 ?
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2407[16:33:42] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: not really, if you just
click on the disk and tell it to start over with new parttable, it
doesn't cleanly remove the raid it discovered
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2410[16:34:17] <petn-randall> rafalcpp: I thought you wiped the
disk by hand? Which is it now?
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2413[16:34:40] <rafalcpp> petn-randall: after the option to start
with new parttable didn't worked, instead I zeroed begining of
disk and rebooted
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2414[16:35:25] <rafalcpp> hm on boot, the init scripts do not ask
for crypt password that is needed for root. what lines were needed
for that, and is it in grub.cfg or in initramfs?
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2423[16:40:30] <rafalcpp> how to see all metadata, mdadm --detail
--scan shows just one array, but somehow system detects another one
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2456[16:51:42] <jelly> tdn: carefully instruct sensors not to
touch acpi-virtual* sensors (I don't know how to actually do
that)?
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2526[17:29:22] <injustice> can i get kdump-tools to just write
out the dmesg and not the core file?
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2549[17:38:03] <tw> Can I reliably use busybox(-static) as sh on
a debian system?
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2551[17:38:54] <greycat> I'm gonna go with "Try It And
See". Not sure what POSIX features busybox sh may be missing
these days....
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2553[17:39:21] <injustice> jhutchins_wk: it seems to be running
one of its own scripts on my behalf, which includes capturing dmesg
(it uses /sbin/vmcore-dmesg) and also writes out a core file. I want
just the dmesg (from the crashed kernel) to be preserved
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2581[17:48:55] <jelly> tw: as /bin/sh, or as root's
login/interactive shell?
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2583[17:49:12] <tw> jelly: as /bin/sh
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2585[17:49:41] <greycat> There shouldn't really *be* an
interactive root shell, or if there is, you shouldn't be
worried about strict POSIX compliance in it.
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2588[17:50:31] <jelly> I like having a useful interactive shell
to manage stuff in
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2589[17:50:48] <greycat> In that case you'd run zsh or bash
or ksh or ....
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2591[17:50:55] <jelly> yes
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2592[17:51:08] <jelly> that order is correct :-)
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2596[17:51:59] <king_frog> Hello, I have quite a dumb question
and googling it has not helped me
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2597[17:52:35] <king_frog> In particular about editing the
xconfig file. I tried joining an X11 channel but it was invite only.
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2600[17:53:37] <TimurTheLame> king_frog, let'er rip
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2601[17:54:01] <jelly> king_frog: can you find this xconfig file
on debian?
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2603[17:54:39] <king_frog> Hello hi, thank you. I'm trying
to sort out mouse buttons and a guide told me to edit xconfig. I
have the folder it should be in but there is no file here, so either
I messed up or I have to make it.
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2604[17:55:13] <TimurTheLame> king_frog, can you give us the
guide's link?
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2605[17:55:16] <king_frog> My question was do I have to edit this
file as root or as the user?
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2609[17:56:49] <king_frog> Yes,
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2610[17:56:52] <jhutchins_wk> king_frog: As root. Look at the
docs for how to get xorg to generate a default file.
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2611[17:56:55] <greycat> There isn't an X config file by
default any more.
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2620[17:58:17] <king_frog> Thanks, that's a help
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2624[17:59:43] <jhutchins_wk> king_frog: Generally anything
system-wide will be as root. If it's user specific, as user.
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2627[18:00:14] <king_frog> Thanks again. It's my first time
doing running a system with multiple users.
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2639[18:04:56] <tw> Regarding busybox as /bin/sh, since busybox
(jessie,stretch) is built to prefer applets, it causes a problem
with a number of system scripts including ifup/ifdown and some part
of the post-auth x11 session startup (either the xsession cmds or a
problem with lxde).
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2642[18:05:51] <tw> there are good reasons to prefer applets when
using busybox for recovery, so it's not really a bug, it just
doesn't work.
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2646[18:06:18] <jelly> what was your use case
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2647[18:06:43] <tw> the main problem is run-parts --list; the
busybox run-parts doesn't implement --list
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2650[18:07:16] <tw> I am using debian as part of a bsp.
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2651[18:07:26] <greycat> !bsp
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2652[18:07:26] <dpkg> A Bug Squashing Party (BSP) is a gathering
of Debian Developers and enthusiasts at a specific time, to fix as
many <bugs> as possible.
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2653[18:07:35] <tw> Sorry, board support package.
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2655[18:07:40] <tw> too many acronyms.
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2658[18:08:03] <tw> it's an arm image on an embedded system.
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2659[18:08:10] <greycat> So the issue with busybox isn't sh
at all, but *other* busybox programs.
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2660[18:08:49] <tw> Right, and that busybox prefers the internal
applets instead of the external ones.
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2664[18:09:12] <tw> The behavior isn't wrong, it's just
incompatible with being used as /bin/sh
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2671[18:10:36] <jelly> at least on a system that still uses init
scripts
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2673[18:11:16] <jelly> if you only had systemd units or whatnot
you'd probably care less about run-parts
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2748[18:37:07] <uso> is there any way to run a process on a
system with a very low priority? I'm trying to copy a few TB of
data to an external disk, run the process with nice -19, ionice -c3
and nocache and it still renders my whole system unusable
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2754[18:38:16] <DoberMann> uso: usb drive ? ;)
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2755[18:38:31] <uso> DoberMann: sure :)
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2756[18:39:05] <DoberMann> maybe using ionice it will work, but
not sure with usb device
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2758[18:39:37] <uso> but the problem is not the USB drive, it
looks like the problem is the memory management
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2759[18:40:38] <sine0> fresh debian install, lamp installed.
wordpress local dev. the machine is 192.168.0.6 and I am on laptop
on 0.5 . when I request the page it really really hangs and loads
after about 15 seconds. this has happend to me before on a different
computer and network so i know this is some kind of config problem.
apache was fine default with virtual hosts, now i have installed
wordpress and there is soem
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2760[18:40:44] <sine0> bottlekneck. the trouble is i dont know
how to find out whats causing the delay. the server is fresh i5 w8GB
ram, on eth0, should be no issues at all. I have watched htop and
iftop and there are no problems.
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2765[18:41:20] <uso> the system only has 8GB of RAM and the
system uses 80% of the memory for cache so that a lot of the deskop
applications are swapped out
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2773[18:42:48] <jelly> uso: that's not a problem as long as
nothing is actively swapping in or out
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2776[18:43:34] <jelly> uso: run "vmstat 1" for a while,
see if there's significant nonzero volume in "si" and
"so" columns
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2777[18:43:41] <uso> jelly: it havily is, that's what makes
my desktop unresponsible
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2780[18:44:19] <jelly> uso: does vmstat's output confirm
that?
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2784[18:45:06] <uso> jelly: si is between 100 and 500, not sure
what units that uses
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2786[18:45:51] <uso> but with iotop I see one or more kworker
processes with 99% disk usage
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2787[18:45:55] <jelly> 1KiB
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2788[18:46:13] <jelly> uso: that'd be the one having to deal
with usb device
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2789[18:46:38] <jelly> sadly this is normal with usb2
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2790[18:46:40] <uso> jelly: and how can I reduce it's
priority?
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2791[18:47:33] <jelly> no idea, I investigated for a while and
decided my time and money is better spent just buying a usb3 card
and disks.
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2794[18:48:02] <uso> jelly: that behaviour is fixed with USB3?
that would be good news
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2797[18:48:32] <jelly> you can try telling the kernel to use swap
less, but that won't solve the cause
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2800[18:49:02] <jelly> uso:
replaced-url
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2804[18:49:43] <uso> jelly: I was afraid of that
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2805[18:49:46] <jelly> (personally I consider the default
"60" value to be MUCH too aggressive for both desktops and
server use, and reduce it to 10... whatever that means)
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2809[18:51:16] <uso> jelly: I already have played around with
swappiness and vfs_cache_pressure, but that slows down normal disk
operations a lot then
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2810[18:51:51] <jelly> sometimes picking a different usb port
makes a difference
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2814[18:52:21] <jelly> if i remember correctly
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2823[18:53:35] <uso> I'm about to look for a new PC (mainly
because I need more memory and updating my old PC is too expensive),
so when that problem is fixed with USB 3 I won't invest too
much time looking into it
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2824[18:53:38] <SlutSex123> vagina
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2842[18:58:51] <uso> so in general I do not have much control
over the priority of single processes, the only way to make the
system more responsive is to tune the memory management of the whole
system, right?
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2846[18:59:51] <ksk> uso: what? look into cgroups if you want to
limit the memory per process.
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2851[19:00:40] <ksk> and "tuning the memory managment"
is not something you do, imho.
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2854[19:00:53] <jelly> uso: when you're dealing with a
shitty driver for a shitty ehci controller, which hasn't been
dealt with properly on linux during the last what, 15 years, the
actual thing that works best is to stop using it
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2862[19:01:35] <ksk> oh its about copying to a disk? maybe use
some kind of pipe that has a bandwith limit? sounds very hackish
though
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2863[19:01:52] <ksk> or, use rsync with bandwith.
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2867[19:03:03] <uso> jelly: that means a yes for it's fixed
with USB 3, or is it a genearal problem with USB?
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2869[19:03:32] <uso> ksk: bandwith limit with rsync that's a
good idea
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2871[19:04:08] <jelly> uso: usb3 is a lot better, if anything
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2873[19:04:26] <jelly> even usb3 devices on usb2
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2874[19:04:33] <uso> is there a good way to see what the cached
memory is used for, preferrably in an understandable form :) ?
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2878[19:04:55] <uso> jelly: it's an USB 3 disk on a USB 2
controller
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2881[19:06:20] <jelly> dunno, those have been working well for me
last couple of years
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2901[19:12:56] <petn-randall> uso: Which kernel are you running?
There have been some concurrency fixes for slow I/O devices in
recentish kernels.
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2906[19:13:36] <uso> petn-randall: the default kernel, 3.16
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2913[19:14:21] <uso> petn-randall: I need nvidia legacy driver,
does that work with the bpo kernel?
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2915[19:15:25] <petn-randall> uso: I think the FOSS driver will
cover that, so no legacy non-free driver needed.
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2924[19:16:52] <uso> petn-randall: I have a dual GPU, 3 monitors
setup, last time I've tried nouveau I could not get it to work
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2925[19:17:16] <uso> but that has been after jessie has been
released, I'll give it another try with stretch
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2943[19:25:31] <dadinn> hi all
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2949[19:26:08] <dadinn> trying to boot debian live 8.6.0 cd image
(iso) under kvm, but I am getting an error message saying it is not
bootable
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2950[19:26:17] <dadinn> is this a known issue?
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2966[19:31:11] <sine0> how can i disable ipv6
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2968[19:31:42] <greycat> Explain why you think you want to do
that, so people can fix your real problem.
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2975[19:32:59] <n0arch> o ive missed u greycat ;D
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2976[19:33:02] <sine0> your astute intuition pleases me.
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2978[19:34:42] <TimurTheLame> sine0,
replaced-url
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2983[19:35:00] <KNERD> What's going on with Firefox? Left my
laptop unattended for four days, come back and I see Firefox has not
only consumed the entire system's RAM, but was demanding more
to the point it was causing page swaps which made disk usage go to
100%.
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2985[19:35:36] <missmbob> you can use sysctl for active session.
sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 for example
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2989[19:36:45] <c1a551f1ed> Same answer, though. Disabling IPv6
is likely not the real solution to the actual problem.
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3000[19:39:22] <BluesKaj> the new FF versions use pulseaudio by
default now ...goodbye FF
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3002[19:40:43] <ryouma> BluesKaj: does that mean they will not
work if you have purged pulseaudio?
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3003[19:40:55] <uso> BluesKaj: do they still work with alsa?
(when there's no pulseaudio installed)
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3004[19:41:26] <ryouma> purging pulseaudio was the best thing i
did for my debian
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3005[19:41:31] <BluesKaj> ryouma, no audio
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3006[19:41:39] <elatllat> KNERD: plugins? how much RAM you have?
maybe an auto upgrade issue?
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3007[19:41:43] <BluesKaj> in FF52 and up
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3011[19:42:24] <KNERD> elatllat: I really don't have any
plugins, just tab mix plus, and it's an old one with 4GB of RAM
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3012[19:42:40] <ryouma> but stretch is below that so maybe they
will become sane by stretch+1
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3017[19:43:06] <ryouma> i have 4gb also and firefox has to be
rebooted frequently
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3018[19:43:06] <BluesKaj> ryouma, it's a matter of
preference alright, especially with intel audio which uses alsa
directly with no dependence on pulse
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3020[19:43:43] <BluesKaj> unless you want to stream several audio
sources simultaneously
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3022[19:44:36] <ryouma> i only want one at a time :)
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3024[19:44:41] <elatllat> like say p2p/webrtc video chat with a
group of 5
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3025[19:44:56] <ryouma> i suppose a notification would be good +
vlc
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3026[19:45:32] <BluesKaj> ryouma, well, setting google paranoia
aside, chrome browser now fills the bill for me
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3027[19:45:37] <elatllat> pulse sucks but also is unpractically
limiting these days.
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3029[19:46:21] <ryouma> i need both firefox and chromium for
different purposes (and not sure i can trust chromium's
extensions)
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3032[19:47:32] <mednut> Question, I'm currently logged into
a machine as root, but I don't have the current root password.
Is there a way i can change this password without rebooting the
machine and booting into grub?
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3034[19:47:51] <greycat> Yes. Learn the current password.
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3035[19:47:57] <BluesKaj> well, my patience with HTML5 adoption
has run out so chrome it is.
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3036[19:48:03] <greycat> Or acquire root privileges somehow.
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3037[19:48:10] <mednut> im logged in as root
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3038[19:48:16] <mednut> root password needs to be changed
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3040[19:48:26] <mednut> passwd asks for current password
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3041[19:48:42] <ryouma> what does id say?
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3042[19:48:45] <greycat> Oh, if you are already root, just run
"passwd root".
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3044[19:49:13] <uso> KNERD: firefox eats up a lot of RAM when it
runs for a longer time, mine often uses 5 GB and more
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3045[19:49:13] <greycat> root@wooledg:/home/wooledg# passwd root
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3046[19:49:13] <greycat> Enter new UNIX password:
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3047[19:49:18] <BluesKaj> ryouma, chromium and chrome are
different browsers with respect to plugins flash etc
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3049[19:49:21] <greycat> Does not prompt for current password.
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3050[19:49:22] <elatllat> mednut: sudo -i then passwd
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3053[19:50:32] <elatllat> BluesKaj:what part of HTML5 did FF
miss?
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3054[19:50:34] <ryouma> BluesKaj: yeah, just don't know if
it's safe to use google's product /and/ extensions from
its repo, without vetting them
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3055[19:50:47] <KNERD> uso: yeah, and that is a problem..memory
leak perhapse?
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3058[19:52:15] <elatllat> Yah I think the FF memory issues are
Linux specific because (the limiting)MacOS keeps FF around 1GB...
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3061[19:52:22] <BluesKaj> elatllat, it's not FF that's
at fault, it's the webmasters etc who don't adopt HTML5 on
their websites
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3063[19:52:42] <greycat> BluesKaj: or both.
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3064[19:52:45] <elatllat> BluesKaj: don't go to those
websites
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3068[19:53:39] <BluesKaj> elatllat, heh, how do you know ?
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3070[19:53:53] <uso> KNERD: of course it's a problem, but
nothing new, and seeing what complexity browsers have reached it
probably never will get fixed, the only workaround is to restart the
browser at least once a day
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3071[19:54:11] <mednut__> ok so does anyone in here know much
about proxmox / ceph?
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3074[19:54:20] <greycat> !proxmox
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3075[19:54:21] <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is
a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a
virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not
supported in #debian. There's an unofficial
proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see
##replaced-url
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3076[19:54:24] <ryouma> find . -name \*.sqlite\* -exec echo {} \;
-exec sqlite3 {} 'VACUUM; REINDEX; ANALYZE;' \;
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3079[19:54:30] <BluesKaj> greycat, most browsers can handle HTML5
already
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3080[19:54:35] <ryouma> BluesKaj:
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3081[19:54:42] <elatllat> uso: ... or you could make a memory
dump and file a bug report.
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3082[19:54:50] <ryouma> turn firefox off
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3083[19:54:51] <greycat> BluesKaj: "can handle" does
not necessarily mean "has no memory leaks"
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3085[19:54:56] <missmbob> i dont restart my browser daily.
that's silly.
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3086[19:55:01] <uso> elatllat: good luck to that :)
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3091[19:56:06] <ryouma> also my firefox has all tabs greyed out
by default. dunno if that is bartab or default for firefox these
days.
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3093[19:57:41] <BluesKaj> ryouma..not worried about google like
everyone else is ...internet conspiracy theories is mostly BS anyway
, there are other ways to track an why would they track me
..I'm just an old retired guy who they find out quick enough
isn't much of a consumer
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3094[19:57:47] <KNERD> i think that is firefox..it has gotten
hard to tell which tab is open on that browswer now days. I always
accidentally close the wrong tab
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3095[19:58:30] <ryouma> BluesKaj: dunno re google, just being
cautious, don't install non-repo programs, etc.
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3099[19:59:04] <Phage> Is Ruby pre-installed on Debian?
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3102[19:59:29] <greycat> not by default
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3103[19:59:37] <Phage> sad panda :(
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3104[19:59:38] <BluesKaj> ryouma, my expereince with chrome has
been fine now for over a yr ..no worries
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3106[19:59:53] <ryouma> you install a lot of extensions? too many
moving ads etc. for me
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3107[20:00:06] <greycat> Default Debian install has (I think)
Bash, Perl, Python.
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3110[20:01:01] <BluesKaj> ryouma, not many just an adblock
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3160[20:20:10] <tdn> Is there a way in Debian 8 with systemd to
get a list of all services and which are running and which are not?
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3162[20:20:25] <greycat> systemctl status
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3164[20:20:39] <greycat> also, systemctl -a ... also, man
systemctl
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3202[20:40:04] <tdn> greycat, I was hoping for something that
will list all services and then have a status column with values
such as RUNNING, STOPPED, FAILED, etc. Maybe even red/green dots.
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3203[20:40:11] <tdn> Not sure how to read systemctl status
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3222[20:49:04] <jhutchins_wk> tdn: What about ps ax?
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3226[20:49:34] <jhutchins_wk> tdn: Ah, yeah, that'd be
useful.
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3232[20:52:47] <ksk> tdn: from what I understand so far (Talking
to the systemd people in irc) and reading that:
replaced-url
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3233[20:52:52] <zylinx> hello, i installed ufw and apt raised
'update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no
longer...' does this mean ufw will not start and reboot ?
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3234[20:53:01] <ajaXHorseman> I don't think its my router as
everything else on the network works fine. I just went into my
router and set it to open dns and it didn't help anything. I am
really stuck on this one any help would be greatly appreciated lol
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3236[20:53:15] <ksk> the systemd commandline tools are not to be
used via another (automated) tool - you would have to use the DBus
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3238[20:54:03] <ksk> tdn: also take a look here maybe:
replaced-url
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3243[20:54:50] <ksk> thats why I still use monit with systemd,
which then has its own checks to check if any service is running :(
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3252[21:00:20] <sine0> greycat: with remote desktop on a headless
server does a GPU card help?
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3253[21:00:41] <sine0> im not sure if the GPU sends it all out
through the pipes :P
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3254[21:00:53] <greycat> tdn: systemctl -t service -a
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3256[21:02:39] <Megaf_> Hi all, can you tell me a simple and
efficient init software?
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3258[21:02:56] <Megaf_> upstart has plymouth as dep and I
don't want systemd
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3259[21:03:00] <Megaf_> alternatives?
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3260[21:03:13] <greycat> I don't believe there are any that
are "simple".
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3272[21:06:27] <ajaXHorseman> Everytime I reboot it sets the dns
back to the router(192.168.1.1) the router is set to opendns
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3273[21:06:38] <jelly> Megaf_, if you've worked with
daemontools before, something like runit will me familiar. Or s6 but
I'm not sure that's packaged in debian
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3274[21:06:53] <jelly> will be* familiar
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3276[21:06:56] <ajaXHorseman> I am out of ideas to try, any help
debian world?
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3277[21:07:14] <jelly> !override dns
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3279[21:07:14] <dpkg> To instruct dhclient to use your specified
nameserver rather than the one given to you by your DHCP server,
echo "supersede domain-name-servers a.b.c.d, e.f.g.h;"
>> /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, or see man 5 dhclient.conf for
more information. Instead of supersede, you can also use
"prepend" or "append" to add nameservers. Or
remove domain-name-servers (etc.) from dhclient.conf if you prefer.
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3281[21:08:03] <jelly> that's a workaround. Finding the root
cause would probably be nicer.
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3283[21:08:32] <greycat> It's highly likely the "root
cause" is that he's running DHCP.
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3287[21:09:16] <ajaXHorseman> Thank you jelly, trying. . .
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3290[21:11:44] <ajaXHorseman> Any ideas as to why it would
randomly change in the middle of the night?
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3292[21:12:01] <greycat> DHCP
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3294[21:12:21] <greycat> When the DHCP lease expires, you
re-contact the DHCP server and get a new IP and new resolv.conf and
so on.
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3295[21:12:26] <greycat> Multiple times per day, potentially.
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3298[21:14:05] <ajaXHorseman> I get that but why would it change
the dns to my router? Then it uses the router dns settings i am
guessing?
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3301[21:14:31] <greycat> Yes, normally a plastic router acts as a
DHCP server and DNS resolver for your home network.
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3303[21:14:36] <jelly> typically the router is also the dhcp
server and dns recursor server.
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3306[21:14:52] <teraflops> heh plastic router
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3307[21:14:57] <ajaXHorseman> lol
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3308[21:15:04] <greycat> If you don't want that, follow one
of the ideas from the "override dns" factoid.
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3309[21:15:07] <ajaXHorseman> Well I do have a plastic router.
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3310[21:15:11] <greycat> Me too.
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3311[21:15:27] <teraflops> we all have one
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3313[21:16:01] <jelly> plastic, reminiscent of
"fragile" and "cheap", is also a decent
description of such routers firmware, including the dns recursor
included
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3314[21:16:02] <deego> How do I change my From email address in
reportbug?
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3315[21:16:17] <ajaXHorseman> lol I just started using dd-wrt and
don't really know much about it, thought about flashing back
just to see if I could get lucky w/stock net gear
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3316[21:16:25] <greycat> deego: man reportbug, look for the word
EMAIL
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3317[21:16:30] <teraflops> jelly: yeah I got what greycat meant I
think
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3321[21:16:51] <ajaXHorseman> But everything else on the network
works fine other Debian boxes have no problems.
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