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1 [00:01:27] <otyugh_II> grub-install give me the following
error : (grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can
only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However,
blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged. command was
: grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sdX)
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3 [00:02:12] <otyugh_II> seem that the ms_dos table is
responsible of this error
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28 [00:16:41] <dyce_> i am having trouble with a bridge, i
bridged an interface called vpn0 to vmbr1 (bridge_ports vpn0). but i
cannot get dhcp to work when using dhclient -v vmbr1. but dhclient
vpn0 will get an address from dhcp. does this have to do something
with forwarding broadcasts (i assume since its all emulating
switches it should)
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72 [00:39:12] <Delf> I have a strange behavior. One of the cores
is being used 100% by /usr/sbin/fsodeviced. What's the deal?
Don't know where in logs to look to find something about it
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74 [00:39:46] <Delf> It seems to be usb related because it stops
when I disconnect the usb hub
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76 [00:40:02] <Delf> And when I plug the cable back in it goes
up to 100%
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85 [00:44:34] <Delf> I lied! It doesn't stop, it only
switches to another core
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90 [00:47:06] <vook> sounds like a bug - you could stop it and
restart it in verbose mode
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94 [00:49:04] <vook> or strace it
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122 [01:06:34] * awal1 Wonders what's /usr/share/bug
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133 [01:15:26] <Time-Warp> anyone know what causes this
134 [01:15:29] <Time-Warp> [ 215.459244]
[drm:ironlake_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun
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159 [01:27:08] <awal1> Anyone wanna share it's conkyrc? :)
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161 [01:27:34] <awal1> his/it's (?) bad english here :D
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183 [01:32:31] <SSLdude> hi there
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185 [01:32:43] <SSLdude> anyone has experience with Suprmicro
BIOS IMPI updates
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187 [01:32:57] <SSLdude> can you flash a BIOS even if the current
one is bricked ?
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203 [01:43:33] <SSLdude> gathered some info here
204 [01:43:35] <SSLdude>
replaced-url
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206 [01:43:40] <SSLdude> in case someone bothers
207 [01:43:42] <SSLdude> ty guys
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229 [01:57:34] <tuxi> will the avahi mdns/dns-sd stack not
loading lead to a shut down?
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233 [01:58:13] <sn00p> How come I cant run tls-cipher on debian 8
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240 [02:02:43] <jmcnaught> sn00p: what is it?
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256 [02:08:22] <sn00p> jmcnaught, something i got from a tutorial
257 [02:08:23] <sn00p> tls-cipher TLS-DH
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294 [02:31:23] <brallan> Hello. I installed IBus without problems
and add some input layers in its "Preference" menu, but
when "Super + space" is pressed, IBus doesn't change
the input layout. Suggestions?
295 [02:31:31] <brallan> I am using KDE
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305 [02:39:40] <awal1> I get this error when login in sawfish
"Error: Clic to dismiss. Also printed to stderr". Any
advice?
306 [02:40:10] <awal1> printed to stderr means?
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308 [02:43:07] <OerHeks> printed to standard error = to a
different place than normal messages.
309 [02:43:14] <OerHeks> not screen but a log
310 [02:43:30] <OerHeks> ( example)
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314 [02:45:50] <awal1> OerHeks, ok, got you. thanks
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436 [03:55:07] <urand0m> im on a laptop, i have a vga display
hooked up to my laptop but i can't seem to get dual montitor
working
437 [03:55:37] <urand0m> im using xfce4 .. in settings there is
something called "display" it only shows 1 display
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445 [04:00:38] <OerHeks> urand0m, does that laptop have a FN +
screen key ? toggle it, internal/external/both ?
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449 [04:03:03] <urand0m> OerHeks, it appears so but none of my fn
+ x combinations work
450 [04:03:31] <OerHeks> those are hardware keys, no driver
needed.
451 [04:03:52] <urand0m> OerHeks, i also tried rebooting my
computer with the monitor hooked up hoping that maybe linux would
see it and load it upon boot but it didn't work
452 [04:04:23] <urand0m> OerHeks, my hardware keys do not work
then
453 [04:04:26] <OerHeks> wait a few seconds between presses
454 [04:04:44] <OerHeks> If that does not work, i have no clue.
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475 [04:14:24] <urand0m> sometimes when i run apt-get install
stuff it will prompt me with yes or no then sometimes i just
automatically installs it with out prompting me - why is this?
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487 [04:20:38] <Variant00> Hello, I am installing Debian 8.5 on
my dedicated server. However the 'Install and Select
Features' step failed, and I can't find a fix.
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489 [04:20:59] <qmr> jesus criminy, there's an 8.5?
490 [04:21:05] <qmr> I probably shouldn't be running 4 then
491 [04:21:13] <Variant00> Lol
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497 [04:25:23] <Variant00> Anyone online that can help?
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499 [04:26:27] <awal1> urand0m, I asked about why apt-get
doesn't prompt with yes/no during installs a few hours ago...
My guess is that apt-get only prompts when extra
dependencies/recommends/suggets pkgs are going to be
installed/required
500 [04:26:49] <qmr> right
501 [04:27:03] <Variant00> I don't think I've ever been
prompted for a Y/N answer when using apt-get
502 [04:27:06] <qmr> if you tell apt-get to install foo, it is
going to install foo. why would it ask you if you want to install
foo ?
503 [04:27:09] <Variant00> On Debian atleast
504 [04:27:14] <qmr> Variant00: try harder
505 [04:27:34] <Variant00> I haven't used other OS's
506 [04:27:37] <awal1> Variant00, that's not possible :P
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515 [04:29:29] <awal1> try installing hmm say xmonad . you will
be prompted with yes/no about around 700 mb of haskell stuff
516 [04:29:37] <awal1> Variant00
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520 [04:31:02] <Variant00> Yes?
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522 [04:31:06] <awal1> :)
523 [04:31:10] <Variant00> ?
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525 [04:31:13] <Variant00> :)
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529 [04:31:43] <qmr> =-D
530 [04:31:44] <awal1> urand0m, is your external monitor listed
if you run xrandr ?
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535 [04:32:59] <urand0m> awal1, nope not yet but i'm reading
these docs real quick
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539 [04:33:45] <urand0m> one of the people in ##hardware
suggested that it could be my video driver and xorg config - get an
error when booting linux about couldn't load something radeon
and needing non free firmware
540 [04:33:58] <urand0m> i get an error*
541 [04:34:02] <awal1> urand0m, probably yeah
542 [04:34:32] <awal1> I use xfce with dual monitor and it works
perfectly
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544 [04:34:40] <awal1> ,v xfce4
545 [04:34:41] <judd> Package: xfce4 on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.6.2;
wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; stretch: 4.12.3; sid: 4.12.3
546 [04:35:09] <awal1> well, i use xfce in my sid machine, not
jessie
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549 [04:35:37] <awal1> probably jessie xfce v. have no full
support for dual monitor
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551 [04:36:37] <awal1> if it's not detected at all during
boot, so it seems that's a driver related
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553 [04:36:57] <urand0m> awal1,
554 [04:37:01] <awal1> or maybe kernel
555 [04:37:24] <awal1> more likely driver/graphic stuff
556 [04:37:39] <urand0m> whoops, how do i configure irssi to use
sasl auth incase X stops working after i do this because freenode
wont let me connect with out using sasl since im using a tether
557 [04:38:34] <awal1> freenode use https anyway
558 [04:38:38] <awal1> uses
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560 [04:39:05] <urand0m> awal1, freenode will not even let me
connect to the server. it denies me connection when i try to connect
from a mobile network
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563 [04:40:07] <urand0m> it forces me to use sasl authentication
- i went through 3 days of hell trying to connect to freenode
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565 [04:40:14] <awal1> I use hexchat and I can set secure
connection when needed with the option passwd+sasl I think. I dont
remember the excat naming
566 [04:40:20] <urand0m> awal1, thats what im using too
567 [04:40:42] <awal1> with only sasl, it wont work
568 [04:40:48] <awal1> no clue about irssi
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570 [04:41:03] <awal1> try the option password+sasl
571 [04:41:10] <urand0m> but if i change my driver and change my
xorg conf and x stops working then hex chat isnt going to work and
im going to need help geting it working again .. i have irssi incase
that does happen but i wont be able to connect to freenode with
irssi unless i have sasl auth set up
572 [04:41:46] <awal1> i dont use irssi, no clue
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574 [04:42:41] <Variant00> This is infuriating
575 [04:42:54] <Variant00> None of the mirrors I am trying are
working!
576 [04:44:02] <jmcnaught> Variant00: what error do you get?
577 [04:44:42] <Variant00> It was like a network error one.
However I decided to go ahead and try a US one and it finally
decided to work.
578 [04:44:50] <Variant00> The Canada ones are so messed up.
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580 [04:46:09] <jmcnaught> Variant00: mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
seems to be working for me
581 [04:46:38] <Variant00> It wasn't working for me. Must be
my internet, which wouldn't make sense but whatever. Lol
582 [04:47:43] <awal1> Variant00, I frequently use us or ca. when
one of them doesn't work i switch to another
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585 [04:48:38] <Variant00> Yea, this is my fourth time installing
Debian because of previous problems with the installation. I never
switched countries because I thought you weren't supposed to.
But I read the message tonight saying that it didn't matter the
country.
586 [04:48:41] <tortib_> dondelelcaro, you there?
587 [04:49:59] <awal1> Variant00, you can use a mirror from
tailand if you want; just check if the mirror you are usig a debian
official one
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589 [04:50:16] <tortib_> I just got a wifi 802.11ac router and my
network speeds are only 11MB/s
590 [04:50:42] <Variant00> awal1 I can see why it would be a bad
idea to connect to a non-offical one xD
591 [04:50:47] <awal1> if the mirror you want to use is official
mirror (debian mirror) ^
592 [04:51:02] <jmcnaught> Variant00: it's hard to talk
about what was wrong when you don't show the errors. did you
run "apt-get update" after changing mirrors the first
time?
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596 [04:53:17] <Variant00> No, I never got that far. I've
been stuck on the installation for months.
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599 [04:53:59] <Variant00> I've given up on it a bunch from
frustration. Because ever since I bought my Dedi it's been
nothing but problems.
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601 [04:54:39] <tortib_> my link speeds says 433Mbit/s
602 [04:54:52] <tortib_> but i'm only getting 5MB/s when
trasnfering data from my NAS to my laptop
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605 [04:56:09] <jmcnaught> Variant00: what is a dedi? if you have
problems you're welcome to ask questions here. If you're
new to Debian there's some good free books here:
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606 [04:56:37] <urand0m> whats the difference between sudo and
gksudo?
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608 [04:56:48] <Variant00> Dedi, short for Dedicated Server.
I'm fairly new to servers in general. I've run a hosting
company but I never got into the backend side of it.
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612 [04:58:23] <jmcnaught> urand0m: one is for when you're
running X11 programs
613 [04:58:29] <Variant00> Which is the best desktop enviroment
to use?
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615 [04:58:47] <jmcnaught> Variant00: GNOME, but you don't
need a DE on a server
616 [04:59:46] <Variant00> I don't know CMD line
617 [05:00:09] <missmbob> wont be doing much "server"
work on it then
618 [05:00:23] <awal1> jmcnaught, i tought you are more
xfce/wm's oriented :P
619 [05:00:34] <Variant00> It's a pretty weak dedicated
server, I'm only looking to host a few websites.
620 [05:01:16] <Variant00> As a 16 year old who lives at their
parents house, I can't really do a ton of Commerical stuff with
it.
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622 [05:01:44] <Variant00> But I'll take your advice, and
skip the DE.
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624 [05:02:03] <jmcnaught> Variant00: you still don't want a
DE on a server, use it as an opportunity to learn a bit of command
line stuff, there will be some reading required but you can get
through it
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626 [05:02:37] <awal1> Variant00, if you are not so familiar with
debian and gnu/linux world, one nice way is make a standard debian
install and try stuff in a VM (virtualbox is easier for such thing)
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629 [05:03:10] <Variant00> I tried to install ESXi on my
friend's advice but my server isn't 64 bit
630 [05:03:21] <Variant00> The CPU's won't support t
631 [05:03:23] <awal1> you will avoid reinstalling the whole
system bcoz you broked X thing..
632 [05:03:54] <jmcnaught> Variant00: what awal1 is suggesting is
to use PC at home to run Debian in a VM
633 [05:04:37] <Variant00> I could try that.
634 [05:04:58] <Variant00> I've got a spare PC that I could
wipe the OS off and install a VM OS
635 [05:05:28] <missmbob> we're saying you don't need
t. virtualbox will run on your windows or whatever it is you have.
636 [05:06:13] <awal1> Variant00I mean install debian in real
hardware, standard install (gnome with all the defaults), and play
with what you want in another debian system installed in a VM. when
you know what you do, you can apply stuff in real hardware,
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639 [05:06:57] <urand0m> im running debian 8.5 jessie, i am
running irssi 0.8.17 - i updated my repos and tried to upgrade irssi
to 0.8.18 but it says im already running the latest version - how do
i get the newest version of irssi?
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641 [05:07:05] <cafuego> The server isn't 64bit?
642 [05:07:19] <cafuego> It's not a raspberry pi, is it?
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644 [05:07:40] <awal1> urand0m, usually, no new versions of X pkg
in stable
645 [05:07:43] <missmbob> urand0m: you use jessie-backports
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646 [05:07:44] <cafuego> urand0m: What does 'apt-cache
policy irssi' say?
647 [05:07:46] <tortib> I just got a wifi 802.11ac router and my
network speeds are only 11MB/s the link says it's 433Mbit/s
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649 [05:08:06] <awal1> check if it's in backports, urand0m
650 [05:08:21] <missmbob> i already did :P i wouldn't have
told him otherwise
651 [05:08:51] <awal1> missed that :P
652 [05:09:38] <urand0m> cafuego,
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654 [05:10:09] <cafuego> urand0m: Ah yep, what missmbob said then
;-)
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656 [05:11:14] <Variant00> No, it's a old server. I picked
it up for cheap and thought it would be good to use as a learning
enviroment. It's an HP Proliant DL360 G4.
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664 [05:15:23] <urand0m> i love you, it worked. thanks :D
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669 [05:16:25] <KALASH> how would I use aptitude to list the
available jessie-backports updates. I don't plan to install
them all but I just want a list to see which packages I should
consider upgrades for. Thank you.
670 [05:16:34] <mijk> hey, I'm running Wheezy because I have
Radeon 3650 and I'm using the wheezy-backports fglrx-legacy
driver
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672 [05:16:57] <mijk> if I lock those packages, can I upgrade to
Jessie without killing the entire system?
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674 [05:17:39] <awal1> urand0m, I haven't sent you any thing
:P :D
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676 [05:19:49] <missmbob> i did. i should just stop talking. heh
677 [05:21:00] <awal1> KALASH, try with apt update && apt
list --upgradable or --upgradeable
678 [05:22:02] <awal1> I dont know how to make apt list only
backports pkgs
679 [05:22:02] <KALASH> awal1: none listed
680 [05:22:17] <KALASH> I used to know the command for apt-cache
search
681 [05:22:21] <KALASH> and aptitude search
682 [05:22:22] <missmbob> you need to use -y jessie-backports
683 [05:22:28] <awal1> update first then list --upgradable
684 [05:22:35] <KALASH> i did update
685 [05:22:50] <missmbob> ugh, typo. -t
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688 [05:23:51] <awal1> KALASH TRY WITH list --upgradable -t
jessie-backports
689 [05:24:24] <awal1> cant try here, I have no extra repos
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692 [05:24:39] <KALASH> E: Command line option 't'
[from -t] is not known.
693 [05:25:04] <awal1> if nothing listed for backports or for
normal repos , so no pkgs are upgradable
694 [05:25:10] <missmbob> i was afraid of that. jessie's apt
is nowhere near what's in stretch/sid.
695 [05:25:27] <mijk> KALASH: aptitude search -t $(lsb_release
-sc)-backports -F '%p %v -> %V' '~U
~Abackports'
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697 [05:25:40] <awal1> missbob, I dont see -t for list in sid apt
698 [05:25:52] <KALASH> mijk: thank you that worked
699 [05:25:53] <KALASH> thanks
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701 [05:26:03] <mijk> np
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703 [05:26:20] <awal1> mijk, easy command to remember :P
704 [05:26:21] <missmbob> awal1: i'm on stretch and my man
page for apt has it listed. jessie's is just too old i guess
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707 [05:26:26] <mijk> lmao yeah
708 [05:26:33] <mijk> make a script for it ;)
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710 [05:26:58] <mijk> actually, I'm working on a script to
make it easier
711 [05:27:37] <mijk> but, I'm lazy and that's neither
here nor there
712 [05:27:47] <awal1> missbob, -t for list can be available in
apt stretch version and not in sid
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714 [05:28:01] <awal1> i dont see it in man
715 [05:28:11] <awal1> can't be ^
716 [05:28:19] <missmbob> awal1: i know. stretch version=sid
version right now
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718 [05:28:53] <missmbob> it's at the very top. first line
of SYNOPSIS
719 [05:28:59] <mijk> so is iti possible for me to lock a version
of a package and upgrade to Jessie without killing my system?
720 [05:29:03] <awal1> i mean in man man I there is no trace of
-t for list --upgradable
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724 [05:29:52] <awal1> i mean in man apt there is no trace of -t
for list --upgradable ^
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727 [05:30:42] <awal1> missbob, you right. excuses
728 [05:30:50] <missmbob> awal1: no worries
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730 [05:31:09] <jmcnaught> mijk: which package?
731 [05:31:27] <mijk> I have to use fglrx-legacy from the wheezy
backports
732 [05:31:57] <mijk> I've had nothing but trouble using any
distro newer than Ubuntu 12.04 or Debian Wheezy
733 [05:31:59] <jmcnaught> radeon doesn't work?
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735 [05:32:19] <mijk> slow and performance is garbage
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738 [05:33:19] <strass> I was getting dkpg errors for
keyboard-configuration. Stackoverflow had me remove then reinstall
keyboard-configuration, but now x doesn't start and I
can't type at shell.
739 [05:33:20] <jmcnaught> the last time i used radeon was on
wheezy but i didn't find it slow except perhaps relative to
game performance with fglrx
740 [05:33:33] <strass> I am currently in single user mode,
trying to reconfigure keyboard-configuration. here's my error
log:
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741 [05:33:42] <strass> can someone please help me get it working
again?
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744 [05:34:28] <missmbob> strass: you're using ubuntu. try
them at #ubuntu
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768 [05:45:37] <urand0m> how do i connect to my wifi using the
command line? my ssid is hidden. im looking at this guide but i do
not understand it
replaced-url
769 [05:45:58] <peterrooney> dpkg: /msg strass cross post
770 [05:45:59] <dpkg> peterrooney: have you tried
replaced-url
771 [05:46:17] <strass> huh peterrooney ?
772 [05:46:35] <peterrooney> dpkg: tell strass about cross post
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775 [05:47:00] <strass> peterrooney: ##linux told me to go here,
here told me to go to #ubuntu
776 [05:47:21] <missmbob> strass: that's because you're
using ubuntu.
777 [05:47:24] <missmbob> !ubuntu
778 [05:47:24] <dpkg> Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not
Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on
chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less
helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on
#debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
779 [05:47:46] <strass> I understand that, I was just following
directions
780 [05:48:07] <strass> I have only been using linux for like 4
weeks. I'm getting better but I'm still learning how to
ask for help
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783 [05:50:56] <urand0m> im about to do something that might
break X i want to ensure i have a way to get online first incase i
do break X . i dont internet or a router that i can hardwire to. im
tethering from my phone so if i break x and cant get online then im
screwed
784 [05:51:05] <urand0m> insure*
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789 [05:53:21] <urand0m> i have wpasupplicant
790 [05:53:38] <jmcnaught> urand0m: use nmtui
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794 [05:55:17] <urand0m> jmcnaught, oh man, that makes things so
much easier. thanks man
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799 [05:58:20] <a1> urand0m, do it, grab your balls and do it!
800 [05:58:28] <a1> click,click
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809 [06:02:42] <urand0m>
replaced-url
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812 [06:06:36] <hyper_ch> hi there, I get a strange message, that
no space is left on device but all mounts still have plenty of space
left
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814 [06:07:14] <urand0m> hyper_ch, how much space is left?
815 [06:07:23] <emankcin> hyper_ch, What does df give you?
816 [06:07:24] <hyper_ch> urand0m:
replaced-url
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818 [06:08:24] <hyper_ch> can't figure out where the problem
is
819 [06:08:50] <emankcin> hyper_ch, try to create a file
820 [06:09:04] <hyper_ch> root@servi:/# touch test
821 [06:09:06] <hyper_ch> touch: cannot touch ‘test’:
No space left on device
822 [06:09:49] <emankcin> well thats bizarre
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824 [06:10:13] <hyper_ch> it's not mounted ro either:
825 [06:10:14] <hyper_ch> root@servi:/# grep
"\sro[\s,]" /proc/mounts
826 [06:10:16] <hyper_ch> root@servi:/#
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829 [06:10:58] <emankcin> should be a different error anyway
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831 [06:11:08] <hyper_ch> I know, I was just testing it
832 [06:11:09] <emankcin> hyper_ch, what size is sda?
833 [06:11:14] <emankcin> fdisk
834 [06:11:16] <hyper_ch> 2TB
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836 [06:11:33] <hyper_ch> emankcin: sda or the crypt container?
837 [06:12:05] <emankcin> those crypts are from elsewhere then?
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840 [06:12:30] <hyper_ch> emankcin:
replaced-url
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842 [06:12:42] <hyper_ch> nah, sda contains 3 partitions... once
is crypto container for /
843 [06:12:46] <hyper_ch> s/once/one/
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847 [06:13:59] -oldcomputers- spaghetti
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851 [06:14:18] <emankcin> hyper_ch, Can you move something from
sda to another device.. back_crypt or rtorrent_crypt?
852 [06:14:25] <emankcin> and check if you can touch a file
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854 [06:14:42] <hyper_ch> emankcin: just rebooting the server and
will test
855 [06:14:44] <oldcomputers> emankcin: did the spaghetti show
up?
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857 [06:15:45] <emankcin> oldcomputers, wat?
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859 [06:16:10] <urand0m> should i do this
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861 [06:16:20] <oldcomputers> emankcin: the /notice
862 [06:16:22] <oldcomputers> did it work?
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864 [06:16:36] <emankcin> oldcomputers, I see nothing here
865 [06:16:38] -oldcomputers- does /notice work here?
866 [06:16:42] <oldcomputers> emankcin: what about that?
867 [06:16:48] <hyper_ch> emankcin:
868 [06:16:49] <hyper_ch> hyper@servi:~$ mv dolphian.ttf
/mnt/rtorrent/
869 [06:16:51] <hyper_ch> hyper@servi:~$ touch test
870 [06:16:52] <hyper_ch> touch: cannot touch ‘test’:
No space left on device
871 [06:17:17] <emankcin> as root?
872 [06:17:27] <hyper_ch> no, as normal user
873 [06:17:47] <oldcomputers> * * * * * * * * I AM THE PROPHET OF
THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER * * * * * * *
874 [06:18:11] <emankcin> Have you been touched by his noodly
appendage?
875 [06:18:22] <oldcomputers> LOL NOODLES
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877 [06:18:27] <oldcomputers> NOOOOOOOOOODDLLEEESSSSSSSSSS
878 [06:18:32] <oldcomputers> NOOOODLESSS
879 [06:18:46] <hyper_ch> emankcin:
880 [06:18:47] <hyper_ch> root@servi:~# mv openvpn-2.3.7.tar.gz
/mnt/rtorrent/
881 [06:18:49] <hyper_ch> root@servi:~# touch test
882 [06:18:50] <hyper_ch> touch: cannot touch ‘test’:
No space left on device
883 [06:18:53] <oldcomputers> N O O D L E S NOODLES * * * * *
NOOOOOODLES *****
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887 [06:19:44] <emankcin> hyper_ch, try to cp that file back
888 [06:20:31] <hyper_ch> emankcin:
889 [06:20:32] <hyper_ch> root@servi:~# cp
/mnt/rtorrent/openvpn-2.3.7.tar.gz /root/
890 [06:20:34] <hyper_ch> cp: cannot create regular file
‘/root/openvpn-2.3.7.tar.gz’: No space left on device
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892 [06:21:00] <hyper_ch> I think I know now
893 [06:21:22] <emankcin> hyper_ch, try df -i
894 [06:21:37] <emankcin> and pastebin
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900 [06:22:54] <hyper_ch> emankcin:
replaced-url
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905 [06:27:10] <emankcin> hyper_ch, You can write to the other
crypt devices?
906 [06:27:30] <hyper_ch> root@servi:/mnt/rtorrent# touch test
907 [06:27:31] <urand0m> thank you everyone .. everything is
working great now thank you so much
908 [06:27:32] <hyper_ch> root@servi:/mnt/rtorrent#
909 [06:27:35] <hyper_ch> works fine
910 [06:27:36] <tortib> I just got a 802.11AC RT-1200AC router
from asus. It works great, stable and fast I get 100+Mbps on wifi
with a internet speed test. Problem is tho when I copy data from my
FreeNAS machine to my laptop i only get 11MB/s
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912 [06:28:00] <hyper_ch> emankcin:
913 [06:28:01] <hyper_ch> root@servi:/backup# touch test
914 [06:28:03] <hyper_ch> root@servi:/backup#
915 [06:28:07] <emankcin> tortib, what is 100Mbit?
916 [06:28:21] <tortib> emankcin, 10MB/s
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918 [06:28:30] <tortib> emankcin, I'm connected with a
433Mbit link tho
919 [06:28:34] <tortib> so it doesn't make much sense
920 [06:28:40] <oldcomputers> yay, farts
921 [06:28:48] <tortib> pffftthhththth
922 [06:28:55] <oldcomputers> LONG LIVE THE ALMIGHTY FLYING
SPAGHETTI MONSTER!!!!!!!!!
923 [06:29:05] <tortib> that's hurtful against my
nationality
924 [06:29:07] <tortib> since I'm Italian
925 [06:29:23] <emankcin> hyper_ch, I'm really not sure
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927 [06:29:29] <AndChat164736> .... Cannot print HP printer
928 [06:29:34] <hyper_ch> emankcin: same here :(
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930 [06:29:37] <tortib> AndChat164736, hplip package
931 [06:29:40] <hyper_ch> it should be working
932 [06:29:50] <emankcin> hyper_ch, All my crypts here show Inode
counts on df -i
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934 [06:30:00] <AndChat164736> I installed it but not printing
935 [06:30:02] <hyper_ch> emankcin: btrfs - no inodes there
936 [06:30:06] <AndChat164736> Hplip
937 [06:30:08] <emankcin> ah
938 [06:30:15] <emankcin> xfs I think
939 [06:30:25] <AndChat164736> How do I remove it completely n
install again
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943 [06:31:11] <swift110-phone> hey
944 [06:31:42] <AndChat164736> Or how to check package integrity
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947 [06:32:03] <swift110-phone> i see
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950 [06:32:39] <AndChat164736> @tortib.. u there
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952 [06:33:10] <SpaghettiMonster> tortib: FLYING SPAGHETTI
MONSTER
953 [06:33:13] <SpaghettiMonster> * * * * * * N | O | O | D | L |
E | S * * * * * *
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959 [06:34:13] <emankcin> hyper_ch, Found something related to
btrfs, I'll PM
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961 [06:34:49] <hyper_ch> ok
962 [06:35:25] <tortib> people are so inpatient
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970 [06:42:12] <urand0m> there is only one problem now since i
installed the proprietary ati fglrx driver - when i try to drag
windows across the screen they drag very slowly
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991 [06:58:44] <miesco> Hi. I do not think I have swap activated.
As my swap partition (/dev/mapper/sda4_crypt) is not mounted.
992 [06:58:52] <miesco> How do I turn on my swap?
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996 [07:00:35] <rjsalts> miesco: swapon /path/to/swap/device
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999 [07:00:58] <rjsalts> miesco: or swapon -a for all swap
partitions in /etc/fstab or what have you
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1004 [07:02:45] <miesco> rjsalts: I have this in /etc/crypttab:
sda4_crypt /dev/sda4 /dev/urandom
cipher=aes-xts-plain64,size=256,swap
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1009 [07:03:55] <hyper_ch> miesco: what does htop say? do you have
swap?
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1011 [07:04:13] <hyper_ch> miesco: my encrypted swap is sda2_crypt
/dev/sda2 /dev/urandom cipher=aes-xts-plain64,size=256,swap
1012 [07:04:14] <miesco> hyper_ch: No I don't
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1015 [07:04:53] <hyper_ch> miesco: in fstab I have:
/dev/mapper/sda2_crypt none swap sw 0 0
1016 [07:04:55] <miesco> hyper_ch: Did you have to type `swapon`?
1017 [07:04:59] <hyper_ch> you need an entry in fstap to enable
swap
1018 [07:05:09] <hyper_ch> for you it would be sda4_crypt
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1020 [07:06:10] <hyper_ch> miesco: got a swap entry in your fstab
as well?
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1029 [07:08:31] <miesco> This is my fstab line:
/dev/mapper/sda4_crypt none swap sw 0 0
1030 [07:08:38] <miesco> hyper_ch: ^
1031 [07:08:45] <hyper_ch> so that should work IMHO
1032 [07:08:56] <miesco> hyper_ch: I wonder why it doesn't
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1034 [07:09:51] <hyper_ch> well, I wonder why I get no space left
when 600GB are still free :) no idea, I showed you what I have in my
crypttab and fstab and it just works
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1036 [07:10:44] <miesco> hyper_ch: `swapon -s` gives: /dev/dm-1
partition 7799104 0 -1
1037 [07:11:10] <hyper_ch> never used swapon, sorry
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1063 [07:30:55] <miesco> When I type `cryptsetup luksDump
/dev/sda4` it says its not a valid LUKS device. sda4 is my encrypted
swap.
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1073 [07:38:43] <miesco> Wait, I think this is right because it
doesn't have a header as it just rewrites the whole thing on
startup
1074 [07:38:47] <miesco> Going to try restarting
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1197 [08:47:08] <noobandnoober> hi
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1199 [08:48:51] <noobandnoober> Is there a way to resize the LVM
partition that i'm currently using without a live usb or any
other system?
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1203 [08:52:25] <donoban> noobandnoober: I'm not expert but
can't you just add new partitions to the LVM group you need?
1204 [08:53:18] <noobandnoober> donoban: the partition takes the
whole disk, i want to shrink it
1205 [08:53:34] <donoban> ah
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1207 [08:54:30] <donoban> I guess it should be unmounted for
that...
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1241 [09:11:08] <unborn> noobandnoober: there is not really any
other way
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1270 [09:32:19] <dionysus69> the only way to update firefox at
/opt is to run it as sudo?
1271 [09:34:30] <nkuttler> dionysus69: how did it end up in /opt ?
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1275 [09:38:14] <cra1g321> sounds like someone isn't using
the package in the debian repo :P
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1279 [09:39:27] <Maxou> Hey how can i restore default
/etc/network/interfaces file ? i make some change witheout backup it
so I dont remember what was the default state
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1286 [09:43:51] <rjsalts> Maxou: rm
/etc/network/interfaces;dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown would probably
work
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1288 [09:44:22] <Maxou> i will try thank you
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1290 [09:44:40] <unborn> Maxou: ..and next time make sure you do
backup of those - they are just text files ;)
1291 [09:44:49] <Maxou> yep i will ;à
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1307 [09:52:01] <Maxou> rjsalts that don't working that say
interfaces file is missing
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1316 [09:57:10] <novice> I installed debian on macbook but now I
am not able to boot it. It hangs at blank screen
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1318 [09:57:42] <novice> I can boot into osx by holding option key
but not into debian
1319 [09:57:49] <novice> help me
1320 [09:57:54] <novice> I want debian on mac
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1322 [09:58:18] <unborn> novice: did you followed this?
replaced-url
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1326 [09:59:31] <novice> I didn't install refind
1327 [09:59:53] <novice> just planned to go via holding option key
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1329 [10:00:39] <rjsalts> Maxou: hrm, I just skimmed the code.
Check out /var/lib/dpkg/info/ifupdown.postinst
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1331 [10:00:45] <dionysus69> nkuttler: I have firefox
developer's edition, its not in repos take it as a debian
complaint :D
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1334 [10:01:37] <teraflops> novice: it looks like you want to
create a little hfs partition, tell grub to put the efi there and
bless that file from osx. that way debian will appear when holding
option at boot
1335 [10:01:47] <unborn> dionysus69: you should be able to update
by downloading that package and placing in /opt
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1337 [10:02:21] <novice> teraflops: I don't understand it
1338 [10:02:58] <novice> I have tried like this when I tried to
install arch and it worked but how can I do this in debian I
don't understand
1339 [10:03:24] <unborn> read the manual on wiki heh
1340 [10:03:32] <unborn> that could help right?
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1343 [10:04:11] <novice> anyone using debian on macbook air?
1344 [10:04:22] <Fjorgynn> nope
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1348 [10:04:50] <cafuego> I run it in virtualbox on a macbook pro,
but I doubt that's helpful.
1349 [10:04:52] <teraflops> novice: I cannot explain myself better
than I did. you need a hfs partition for installing grub's efi
stuff there aka ESP. if you want osx bootloader to recognise it
you'll have to bless it. Google it for more detailed
information
1350 [10:05:00] <iKfest> iKarith
1351 [10:05:19] <ransur0t> novice: which version macbook air?
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1354 [10:05:33] <novice> mid 2013
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1356 [10:06:02] <ransur0t>
replaced-url
1357 [10:06:09] <unborn> exactly! :)
1358 [10:06:26] <ransur0t>
replaced-url
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1360 [10:07:29] <novice> ransur0t: this has no info how to install
dual boot with osx
1361 [10:07:34] <teraflops> donoban: huh?
1362 [10:07:44] <novice> teraflops: thanx, i'll try
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1366 [10:09:02] <teraflops> novice: that's the saner way of
doing dual boot in newer macboks btw. it's not that hard. I do
that way
1367 [10:09:11] <Fjorgynn> pepepepepepepep
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1370 [10:09:55] <unborn> Fjorgynn: how can we help you here?
1371 [10:10:06] <novice> teraflops: I am thinking like how to
install grub's efi on hfs parition for that we need standlone
1372 [10:10:18] <donoban> hi teraflops, do you remember my problem
running libvirt/qemu? it's running fine now
1373 [10:10:29] <teraflops> ah now I do. heh
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1376 [10:11:04] <teraflops> donoban: I saw the messages but I
didn't remember it
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1378 [10:11:26] <Arone> TGIF ?
1379 [10:11:27] <Arone> TGIF ?
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1381 [10:11:38] <donoban> do you think that reboot is always
needed?
1382 [10:11:39] <armin> TGIF!
1383 [10:12:00] <donoban> if so it should be announced to the user
1384 [10:12:08] <armin> also happy sysadmin day!!!
1385 [10:12:44] <teraflops> novice: if you don't want osx at
all you won't need the hfs and bless stuff if that's what
you meant
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1406 [10:19:32] <unborn> armin: is it today?
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1411 [10:22:46] <ransur0t> ^^^
replaced-url
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1414 [10:24:23] <dionysus69> unborn: yes I know that but I wanted
for auto update to work :) but np I ran it as sudo and it updated
itself
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1417 [10:26:26] <unborn> so now I know when it is.. its nice to
see a bit of love out there in world :)
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1420 [10:27:14] <ransur0t> :)
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1444 [10:43:50] <teraflops> donoban: oh. you just rebooted the
machine?
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1464 [10:56:46] <otyugh> heya
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1470 [10:59:29] <otyugh> What would be the easiest way -from
scratch- to display a few dialogue windows featuring a
"yes/no" button that would just exit accordingly ? It
would be part of a bash script, to hide the console part from users
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1472 [11:01:36] <teraflops> o
1473 [11:01:40] <teraflops> oops
1474 [11:01:47] <teraflops> otyugh: zenity
1475 [11:02:12] <Stummi> otyugh, a GUI or TUI dialog?
1476 [11:02:18] <teraflops> gui
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1478 [11:02:31] <teraflops> I meant zenity is GUI
1479 [11:02:37] <otyugh> what is a tui ?
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1481 [11:02:59] <teraflops> terminal aka no GUI
1482 [11:03:04] <Stummi> otyugh, dialogs within you terminal
1483 [11:03:09] <otyugh> x)
1484 [11:03:12] <otyugh> got it
1485 [11:03:32] <r2rien> otyugh: (Stummi:) dialog : Display dialog
boxes from shell scripts (gtk3 porting of gtk2 zenity)
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1487 [11:03:47] <teraflops> otyugh: as in nmtui ; )
1488 [11:03:55] <Stummi> otyugh, try 'dialog --yesno
"Hello?" 5 20' in your terminal
1489 [11:04:15] <Stummi> if thats what you want, look at the
dialog help/man page
1490 [11:04:22] <otyugh> I love it. Althought users won't
^^'
1491 [11:04:40] <donoban> yes teraflops
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1493 [11:05:27] <teraflops> donoban: yeah I told you so. you said
you couldn't because luks 😆
1494 [11:05:36] <donoban> I have dropbear now ;)
1495 [11:05:45] <teraflops> good shot
1496 [11:05:57] <donoban> I don't want to risk to install it
remotely and being unable to boot
1497 [11:06:19] <teraflops> donoban: there are ways of unlocking
luks remotely
1498 [11:06:41] <donoban> dropbear seems fine, what are the
others?
1499 [11:08:12] <teraflops> initramfs hooks for doing via ssh
1500 [11:08:41] <donoban> yes, that's what I'm doing
with dropbear
1501 [11:08:54] <teraflops> ah sorry I misunderstood
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1533 [11:25:16] <armin> unborn: seems so:
replaced-url
1534 [11:26:33] <unborn> armin: thanks - I already put this on my
site as well.. I will remember this date forever :) its nice to see
some love from others in out there... makes me really happy about us
- in cupboards forgotten :)
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1565 [11:43:10] <jim> !jigdo
1566 [11:43:10] <dpkg> Jigsaw Download (jigdo) is *the* method for
downloading CD/DVD/BD images of Debian. See "Downloading Debian
CD images with jigdo" at
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1607 [12:10:47] <simonb> I've just done a fresh net-install
of Jessie over wifi, however after booting into the installed system
wifi connects, and I get a DHCP lease, but can not talk to anything
on the network. This is true for multiple wireless networks. Any
idea as to why this would be happening?
1608 [12:11:11] <simonb> This has happened with a RTL8191SEvA
1609 [12:11:35] <simonb> and a Intel Wireless WiFi 5100AGN
1610 [12:11:49] <simonb> (I changed the wireless card to see if
the card was the issue).
1611 [12:11:57] <teraflops> did you install the proper firmware?
(if needed)
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1613 [12:12:16] <teraflops> simonb: look at debian wiki for your
wireless NICs
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1615 [12:13:13] <simonb> the correct non-free firmware was
provided during the install (the net install was over wireless). Do
I then have to install the firmware after using it for the install?
1616 [12:13:21] <simonb> already consulted the wiki,
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1618 [12:16:27] <babilen>
replaced-url
1619 [12:16:33] <babilen> ECHAN
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1621 [12:17:59] <simonb> i have verified the correct firmware is
installed, and still not able to communicate with anything on
network. Again during the net-install I could happily connect/ping
hosts on network without issue.
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1623 [12:19:27] <teraflops> simonb: what are you using for
configuring the network? /e/n/i, NM…
1624 [12:20:22] <simonb> currently I am using network manager.
iwconfig is showing that I am correctly associated, and netstat is
showing correct routes/devices
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1637 [12:26:49] <teraflops> netstat?
1638 [12:27:10] <simonb> Just tried wpa_supplicant to connect and
same issue.
1639 [12:27:33] <simonb> netstat -rn shows correct routes. arp -a
shows valuid entries for router and dhcp server.
1640 [12:27:48] <simonb> valuid=valid
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1643 [12:28:44] <simonb> iptables has no rules set and has policy
of ACCEPT.
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1645 [12:31:34] <teraflops> simonb: mind pasting your /e/n/i file
to
replaced-url
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1647 [12:32:02] <teraflops> simonb: and yeah I know you're
using NM
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1650 [12:35:20] <simonb> Omitting top comment:
replaced-url
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1652 [12:36:32] <simonb> I stopped network manager and tried to
connect withough network manager, with the same results is wha tI
meant
1653 [12:36:54] <simonb> top comments omitted due to have to copy
type (I dont have a network cable to hand).
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1656 [12:37:02] <teraflops> simonb: it looks ok, tried stopping NM
and then, as root, `wpa_supplicant -B -i <interface> -D
nl80211 -c <(wpa_passphrase <essid> <passphrase>)
&& dhclient your-iface`
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1658 [12:39:05] <teraflops> simonb: stopping NM and wpa supplicant
^
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1663 [12:40:39] <teraflops> simonb: you just change the whole
"<>"s for your real values
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1665 [12:41:12] <simonb> teraflops: same behaviour, no change.
1666 [12:41:33] <teraflops> simonb: dhclient works?
1667 [12:41:41] <simonb> yup, with a valid IP
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1669 [12:42:12] <teraflops> simonb: well I have no idea sorry,
unless your mac is blocked or something like that
1670 [12:42:32] <simonb> if I attempt to ping anything the correct
entry appears in the arp cache, which is odd too.
1671 [12:42:44] <simonb> teraflops: thank you for helping though,
its appreciated.
1672 [12:42:58] <teraflops> nah good look
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1725 [13:10:06] <sep> greetings. afaik the kernel and mount
version in jessie does not support overlayfs. but it does support
aufs. but then the nfs server does not serve the aufs joined data
(just empty) ; if i install kernel from backports then mount -t aufs
claims there is no such thing as aufs. but then the kernel have
overlayfs ; but i can not find a backports mount package to even if
the kernel supports overlay i can't mount it on jessie ;;: long
story short... is t
1726 [13:10:06] <sep> here a way on jessie to get nfs exported
union filesystem ?
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1729 [13:10:56] <Filystyn> HELLO
1730 [13:11:03] <Filystyn> i need a program that
1731 [13:11:17] <Filystyn> maes a screenshot of window, uploads
that on some site with images.
1732 [13:11:21] <missmbob> sep: the jessie-backports kernel
supports it
1733 [13:11:25] <Filystyn> gives me back link
1734 [13:11:59] <missmbob> sep: plus this:
1735 [13:12:05] <beerbroyy> Filystyn: import exists
1736 [13:12:06] <missmbob> ,checkbackport mount
1737 [13:12:07] <judd> Backporting package mount in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
1738 [13:12:15] <Filystyn> <beerbroyy> Filystyn: import
exists ?
1739 [13:12:29] <Filystyn> ?????????????????????????????????????
ot sure I get what you said
1740 [13:12:36] <Filystyn> ahh i get now
1741 [13:12:43] <Filystyn> I want it fast no stupid imports
1742 [13:12:52] <Filystyn> back to my qestion -> ANYONE!?
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1744 [13:13:35] <missmbob> Filystyn: you're incredible. for
months people tell you to stop demanding, screaming and repeating
yourself and you never learn.
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1746 [13:14:09] <Filystyn> Everyone has his own unique style.
1747 [13:14:19] <missmbob> Filystyn: yours is against channel
policy
1748 [13:14:29] <Filystyn> It is not
1749 [13:14:38] <hassoon> what's up
1750 [13:14:44] <hassoon> what are we arguing about
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1752 [13:15:08] <Filystyn> it is the same question that was asked
on linux but no one knew answer hassoon
1753 [13:15:21] <beerbroyy> he answer is import and curl
1754 [13:15:22] <beerbroyy> fin.
1755 [13:15:26] <hassoon> Filystyn: which is ?
1756 [13:15:27] <beerbroyy> +t
1757 [13:15:44] <Filystyn> need a program that
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1759 [13:15:45] <Filystyn> [13:11] <Filystyn> maes a
screenshot of window, uploads that on some site with images.
1760 [13:15:48] <missmbob> Filystyn:
replaced-url
1761 [13:15:52] <Filystyn> and shuffels me back link
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1763 [13:16:03] <hassoon> Filystyn: you need a software that does
that for you ?
1764 [13:16:13] <Filystyn> yes
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1768 [13:16:30] <hassoon> Filystyn: okey, you got shutter
1769 [13:17:16] <Filystyn> k installing let us see is it a good
one
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1772 [13:18:36] <hassoon> Filystyn: otherwise you can try some
script made by someone that uploads just to imgur; here it is:
replaced-url
1773 [13:18:50] <fa> How do I connect an external device using ssh
service
1774 [13:19:06] <teraflops> that's why I ignored him time ago
1775 [13:19:15] <hassoon> teraflops: ignored what
1776 [13:19:24] <Filystyn> shutter is the thing i needed
1777 [13:19:30] <teraflops> who actually
1778 [13:19:31] <Filystyn> Thank you very much, God Bless.
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1780 [13:19:44] <teraflops> Filystyn
1781 [13:19:51] <hassoon> fa: ssh to the remote machine, mount it
there, then ftp-copy whatever you need to your machine imo
1782 [13:20:05] <missmbob> i did too. every now and again i clean
out my ignore list and he's still screaming
1783 [13:20:07] <hassoon> Filystyn: Any time.
1784 [13:21:27] <fa> How can I get my external ip and connect to
it through the machine outside the network
1785 [13:22:07] <teraflops> fa: use one of those DDNS services
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1789 [13:22:59] <fa> ok thanx
1790 [13:23:01] <teraflops> np
1791 [13:23:05] <sep> missmbob, i could get a overlayfs mounted
with backport kernel if i did a sid backport of mount ; but the nfs
export does not work with overlay either. the nfs client only see a
empty directory. thanks for the effor anyway
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1799 [13:25:11] <Putti> Is there a pastebin like server package
for Debian? I tried looking on the package repos but with no luck.
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1805 [13:26:40] <TomTomTo1> so you tried "aptitude search
pastebin"?
1806 [13:27:02] <TomTomTo1> oh, server package. nvm. i can't
read.
1807 [13:27:14] <teraflops> Putti: or just make an alias to
ix|sprunge|clbin|ptpb|whatever in your ~/.shellrc file and pipe
commands to it
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1812 [13:28:28] <teraflops>
replaced-url
1813 [13:28:33] <Putti> teraflops, that might or might not help
getting server software :DD
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1815 [13:28:41] <teraflops> Putti: sorry?
1816 [13:28:48] <missmbob> Putti: it's not packaged but the
source code for paste.debian.net is available...replaced-url
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1818 [13:29:18] <Putti> teraflops, I was looking for the server
side code
1819 [13:29:50] <missmbob> Putti: i like dpaste.de's
source...also available.
replaced-url
1820 [13:29:56] <fa> How can I get outside my intellectual
property and connect to it remotely by ssh service
1821 [13:29:56] <Putti> missmbob, ok, looks like I have to use
just the non-packaged pastebins
1822 [13:29:57] <teraflops> Putti: you were looking for the rest
API? good luck
1823 [13:30:02] <fa> How can I get outside my intellectual
property and connect to it remotely by ssh service
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1825 [13:30:18] <Putti> teraflops, nope, Hosting my own pastebin
like service
1826 [13:30:31] <fa> plz help me
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1829 [13:31:06] <Putti> Thank you for the help all! :)
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1832 [13:31:23] <TomTomTo1> fa "outside your intellectual
property?" does the machine you want to connect to have a
public ip or is it behind a nat?
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1836 [13:32:10] <fa> He was my
1837 [13:32:12] <teraflops> Putti: install one it's a matter
of setting it up in your web server, a lot of alternatives out
there, none of them packaged afaik
1838 [13:32:35] <teraflops> Putti: most of then sucks imo
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1840 [13:32:47] <Putti> teraflops, ok
1841 [13:32:50] <TomTomTo1> fa no need to msg me, i still
don't understand a word you say.
1842 [13:33:00] <teraflops> fa: please elaborate
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1844 [13:34:12] <fa> I want to contact the device's my remote
ssh
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1846 [13:34:29] <teraflops> fa: are you using google translator?
1847 [13:34:36] <fa> yup
1848 [13:34:39] <teraflops> :S
1849 [13:34:42] <fa> yes
1850 [13:35:09] <missmbob> fa: do you know any language outside of
Lithuanian? there might be a better channel...
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1853 [13:35:13] <teraflops> fa: what's your native language?
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1855 [13:35:19] <teraflops> ah
1856 [13:35:23] <fa> Arabic
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1859 [13:35:44] <missmbob> !arabic
1860 [13:35:44] <dpkg> مرØبا! للØصول على الدعم باللغة العربية
لتوزيعة دبيان جنو\لينيكس , الرجاء التوجه الى قناة ##debian-ar
1861 [13:35:46] <missmbob> that helps
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1863 [13:35:59] <missmbob> i hope :P
1864 [13:36:50] <fa> ok
1865 [13:37:13] <venkat_330> I get unable to start sftp sub system
when client is trying to connect ,,,,
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1867 [13:37:49] <teraflops> fa: sorry my fusha al'arabiyya is
rusty
1868 [13:37:56] <teraflops> oh he left
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1871 [13:38:16] <domovoy> hi
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1889 [13:43:19] <domovoy> i'm making a script that should
umount a certain directory, for that i first need to umount anything
under it though. as 'man mount' suggested, i took a look
at findmnt. Works well, but i don't understand the '-d
backward' option. Example: 'findmnt -nrR -d backward -o
TARGET -S /dev/sda8' gives me, in that order /usr /usr/src and
/usr/local. Shouldn't that be /usr/local /usr/src /usr ?
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1894 [13:44:47] <petemc> domovoy: if you omit the -d backward does
it do it the other way?
1895 [13:45:09] <domovoy> i could pipe the output of findmnt to
something like 'sort -r', but if findmnt can do it itself,
it would avoid a useless load of an external program in my script
1896 [13:45:17] <domovoy> petemc> no, it doesn't
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1898 [13:45:52] <fa> i need anyone help me (( Arabic Language ))
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1901 [13:46:25] <domovoy> so, is this a bug, or am i
misunderstanding the use of '-d'?
1902 [13:47:17] <domovoy> thing is 'findmnt -nrR -d backward
-o TARGET' (no source) DO list all mounts backward
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1907 [13:51:46] <complib> hi, who's the package maintaine for
apache2?
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1917 [13:53:31] <Putti> complib, Maintainer: Debian Apache
Maintainers <debian-apache@lists.debian.org>
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1919 [13:54:10] <complib> Putti, thanks, i'll try to email
them. :)
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1923 [13:55:13] <MaBunny> hey guys
1924 [13:55:19] <MaBunny> good evening
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1926 [13:55:59] <MaBunny> i hav a question
1927 [13:56:06] <Putti> complib, np, and in the future (if you use
debian) you can just use "apt show <package name>"
1928 [13:56:13] <MaBunny> is there a terminal only version of
debian jessie???
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1930 [13:56:39] <MaBunny> i want to run it
1931 [13:56:42] <complib> ah, didn't know that command!
appreciate the advice!
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1933 [13:57:05] <MaBunny> i mean i kno i can download the normal
CD isos and run the ttys from it
1934 [13:57:08] <Putti> MaBunny, download just the base system
when using netinstaller (so don't tick any boxes when it asks
you what you want to install)
1935 [13:57:18] <MaBunny> ok
1936 [13:57:21] <MaBunny> ah i forgot
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1948 [14:03:18] <p3rror> Hello
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1950 [14:03:32] <p3rror> How to remove a file with special
character ` in name
1951 [14:04:05] <Stummi> on terminal, put the filename into single
quotes
1952 [14:04:16] <Stummi> rm 'my `special` file'
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1961 [14:04:56] <p3rror> How can I do it in a script
1962 [14:05:15] <Stummi> assuming its a sh or bash script, the
same way
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1964 [14:05:41] <teraflops> "$1"?
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1977 [14:13:08] <p3rror> teraflops, does not work
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1979 [14:13:20] <p3rror> I have a variable that contain a number
of files
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1981 [14:13:25] <p3rror> the var is $var
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1984 [14:13:58] <missmbob> p3rror: you should probably ask #bash
for scripting help
1985 [14:14:04] <teraflops> for i in whatever rm ...
1986 [14:14:18] <teraflops> also #bash
1987 [14:14:24] <p3rror> yes I do
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2017 [14:24:00] <complib> am i doing it wrong? i've always
use apt-get, should i use apt instead?
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2020 [14:25:52] * Stummi prefers aptitude
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2022 [14:26:24] <missmbob> complib: there is no "wrong".
apt is just a combination of apt-get and apt-cache (especially in
stretch/sid version). aptitude has magic dependency...you use what
you prefer
2023 [14:26:29] * glcx wonder if apt-get update if not > to aptitude
update
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2029 [14:28:44] <Stummi> glcx, I think for "update"
theres no much difference between apt-get and aptitude
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:(
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2040 [14:32:50] <kocane> Hi guys
2041 [14:33:02] <kocane> I've noticed that programs that
handles large files builds up a massive memory usage
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2045 [14:33:21] <kocane> The memory isn't seen as used by any
process but it isn't marked as cache either
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2048 [14:33:52] <kocane> It seems like it can be ffmpeg as well as
a torrent program, both deluge and utorrent in my testings.
It's like a cache that never clears?
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2062 [14:39:07] <teraflops> kocane: non buffered/cached memory is
useless memory anyway, and cached != used
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2064 [14:40:22] <tinyhippo> if there is a binary package with /9
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2066 [14:40:40] <missmbob> kocane: with deluge i'm seeding
about 15G's worth and i'm at 159M
2067 [14:41:12] <kocane> teraflops: but it's not really
marked as cache?
2068 [14:41:50] <teraflops> kocane: where are you looking for?
2069 [14:42:13] <kocane> htop?
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2071 [14:42:31] <teraflops> try free -m (simpler)
2072 [14:42:45] <teraflops> or -h
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2075 [14:43:11] <missmbob> pmap -x $PID is also useful
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2081 [14:44:42] <teraflops> kocane: I meant where are you looking
at^
2082 [14:45:03] <kocane> teraflops: missmbob: well it seems like
my memory has stopped at 5195 ca.
2083 [14:45:11] <kocane> As I download something right now it
doesn't increase anymore
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2085 [14:45:29] <kocane> regardless
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2087 [14:45:53] <kocane> I can see, in deluge for instance, the
ram usage build up as I download. If I stop and remove the torrent
before it finishes, the ram usages clears down
2088 [14:45:58] <kocane> but if it finishes, it never stops
2089 [14:46:07] <kocane> it never goes down*
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2091 [14:46:21] <missmbob> yeah i don't think you have a
problem
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2093 [14:46:33] <missmbob> like teraflops said ram is meant to be
used. unsed ram is useless
2094 [14:47:10] <kocane> lol
2095 [14:47:11] <kocane> I get that
2096 [14:47:13] <kocane> but it's not using it
2097 [14:47:18] <kocane> the file is processed
2098 [14:47:20] <kocane> it's downloaded
2099 [14:47:21] <kocane> it's over
2100 [14:47:26] <kocane> it should clear
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2102 [14:47:43] <teraflops> kocane: all the torrent clients I
tried pre-allocate the full size of the file, perhaps it's a
memory eager process
2103 [14:47:45] <Putti> kocane, maybe it keeps it on memory for
seeding?
2104 [14:48:05] <teraflops> kocane: for those really big files
you're talking about
2105 [14:48:08] <kocane> Putti: Ye I think it does but I stop the
torrents
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2107 [14:48:15] <kocane> Data even gets converted and moved
2108 [14:49:26] <kocane> and echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
clears it all down to 300 mb-ish again
2109 [14:49:51] <teraflops> kocane: paste free -h output to a sane
pastebin also used != cached/buffered
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2112 [14:50:36] <kocane>
replaced-url
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2114 [14:50:52] <teraflops> kocane: that's not a sane
pastebin …
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2117 [14:51:27] <teraflops> sorry I meant sane pastebin site
2118 [14:51:31] <TomTomTo1> cache works on the principle of
locality. things that have been recently used are kept in memory
because it's likely they will be used again. clearing it gives
you nothing beneficial.
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2124 [14:55:58] <kocane> teraflops: I don't know what that is
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2126 [14:56:35] <kocane> TomTomTo1: so it's normal for
servers that occasional handle big files to constantly have a 70%
ram usage
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2128 [14:57:05] <TomTomTo1> sure. if it's just in cache.
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2131 [14:58:17] <TomTomTo1> if the application doesn't free
its memory you would see it using ps aux for example.
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2140 [15:01:02] <kocane> TomTomTo1: eh, is there any difference
bewteen ps aux, top, htop etc to see how much mem an app uses?
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2143 [15:01:21] <TomTomTo1> nope
2144 [15:01:34] <kocane> and the mem usage is not shown as being
used by any app
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2146 [15:01:54] <kocane>
replaced-url
2147 [15:02:03] <TomTomTo1> 0.0 would mean it's just less
than 0.1% of your total memory.
2148 [15:02:20] <kocane> and I can just kill all of these
processes
2149 [15:02:22] <kocane> with no difference
2150 [15:02:32] <kocane> even the ones I KNOW made the mem usage
increase in the first place
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2152 [15:02:44] <missmbob> what just happened
2153 [15:02:50] <TomTomTo1> i don't know..
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2158 [15:03:07] <TomTomTo1> you are just killing random processes
now? :D
2159 [15:03:20] <kocane> no, deluge, plex, nzbdrone, java
2160 [15:03:20] <kocane> etc
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2165 [15:04:08] <missmbob> why? they're barely using anything
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2167 [15:04:41] <kocane> No kidding
2168 [15:04:49] <kocane> A deluge torrent made the ram usage
skyrocket
2169 [15:04:55] <missmbob> deluge is 0.4%. that's enough to
tick you off? sure, kill it
2170 [15:04:59] <kocane> Killing the processes doesnt even free
the cached uses
2171 [15:05:04] <TomTomTo1> cache doesn't work on an
application level.
2172 [15:05:08] <missmbob> no
2173 [15:06:13] <kocane> but cache is still shown as
'used'?
2174 [15:06:15] <teraflops> kocane: try a different torrent
client, maybe it has a memory leak bug
2175 [15:06:34] <kocane> teraflops: yup, I figured that as well.
Finally got myself around setting up uTorrent
2176 [15:06:37] <kocane> no difference
2177 [15:06:47] <kocane> even a file ffmpeg processed made the ram
usage go up and never come down
2178 [15:06:50] <teraflops> cache is cache not used I really do
not understand what you say
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2180 [15:07:11] <kocane> My screenshot wasn't even opened
lol?
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2182 [15:07:16] <teraflops> nope
2183 [15:07:16] <TomTomTo1> but it's not the application
doing the caching. the os does some magic heuristics to predict
future FS access. it doesn't care if you kill an application.
2184 [15:07:18] <teraflops> :P
2185 [15:07:21] <kocane> Alright then
2186 [15:07:35] <kocane> TomTomTo1: OS cache is shown as cache, we
agree?
2187 [15:07:36] <kocane> Not "used"?
2188 [15:07:38] <teraflops> kocane: try free
2189 [15:07:48] <kocane> I pasted free result at pastebin some
mins ago
2190 [15:08:03] <teraflops> kocane: sorry I do not click pastebin
links
2191 [15:08:03] <kocane> total used free shared buffers cached
2192 [15:08:03] <kocane> Mem: 7.7G 5.4G 2.3G 0B 50M 498M
2193 [15:08:03] <kocane> -/+ buffers/cache: 4.9G 2.8G
2194 [15:08:03] <kocane> Swap: 3.1G 0B 3.1G
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replaced-url
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2197 [15:08:23] <kocane> Yeah okay that had consequences lol
2198 [15:08:26] <TomTomTo1> you calculate used - cached then you
have the actual memory used by applications.
2199 [15:08:49] <teraflops> kocane: yeah use
replaced-url
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2201 [15:09:18] <kocane>
replaced-url
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2208 [15:10:14] <greycat> What are we supposed to be looking for
exactly?
2209 [15:10:23] <kocane> fgsfds
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2211 [15:10:24] <missmbob> greycat: dear god that's still not
been settled? :P
2212 [15:10:35] <greycat> Why would it be? Jessie is
"stable".
2213 [15:10:44] <greycat> That means your bugs stay put. Usually.
2214 [15:10:46] <missmbob> greycat: we're trying to explain
cached memory. much harder than expected
2215 [15:10:54] <greycat> !free ram
2216 [15:10:54] <dpkg> Unlike information, your computer's
memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux
tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which
speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these
caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical
memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use,
it's 'free' + 'buffers' +
'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>.
2217 [15:11:10] <greycat>
replaced-url
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2220 [15:11:53] <kocane> New rule: Cached RAM is Used RAM
2221 [15:12:08] <missmbob> this isn't bill maher
2222 [15:12:22] <kocane> Yeah, seems like The view
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2224 [15:12:30] <greycat> If
replaced-url
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2227 [15:13:13] <spleen> Hello All
2228 [15:13:14] <missmbob> can't tell if that was a stab at
my nick or not..
2229 [15:13:45] <spleen> Is someone have experience about
zookeeper ?
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2233 [15:14:21] <teraflops> kocane: free output from procps
2:3.3.9-9 is a bit confusing
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2236 [15:15:13] <teraflops> kocane: I find
replaced-url
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2239 [15:16:00] <greycat> which is not very helpful since you
didn't show what command generated that
2240 [15:16:34] <teraflops> free from procps-ng 3.3.12-1 in other
distro
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2242 [15:16:46] <sebd> hello, I am looking for a standard simple
way to log all write operations under a given folder of the local
filesystem : what file, when, uid and executable path. Should I do
it with dnotify or is there better ?
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2244 [15:17:27] <missmbob> inotify replaced dnotify...might look
into that
2245 [15:17:53] <sebd> (we have experienced random file and folder
deletions over the last 2 weeks)
2246 [15:18:07] <missmbob> ha. and you're just now looking at
it?
2247 [15:18:18] <missmbob> reinstall
2248 [15:18:20] <greycat> Oh, logging unlinks sounds WAY more sane
than logging all writes.
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2251 [15:19:05] <kocane> teraflops: how do I output like you sent
in that link?
2252 [15:19:26] <greycat> kocane: you can't. He cheated by
doing something on a non-Debian system and not identifying the
system in the paste.
2253 [15:19:41] <domovoy> i'm making a script that should
umount a certain directory, for that i first need to umount anything
under it though. as 'man mount' suggested, i took a look
at findmnt. Works well, but i don't understand the '-d
backward' option. Example: 'findmnt -nrR -d backward -o
TARGET -S /dev/sda8' gives me, in that order /usr /usr/src and
/usr/local. Shouldn't that be /usr/local /usr/src /usr ?
2254 [15:19:46] <kocane> greycat: aye
2255 [15:19:55] <teraflops> sebd: or just use auditctl
2256 [15:20:15] <teraflops> kocane: 15:16:34 teraflops ⎸ free from
procps-ng 3.3.12-1 in other distro
2257 [15:20:27] <greycat> domovoy: hard-code the umount commands
in the script in the correct sequence.
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2259 [15:20:33] <greycat> domovoy: stop trying to be l33t.
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2262 [15:21:06] <rozie> mountpoints in mounted directory?
2263 [15:21:20] <rozie> sounds hardcore
2264 [15:21:25] <teraflops> greycat: please be kind, I didn't
cheated I just said the output is confusing compared to procp-ng
2265 [15:21:36] <greycat> He apparently has nested mounts
(/usr/local on top of /usr) and for some INEXPLICABLE reason he
thinks he needs to umount /usr in a script.
2266 [15:21:39] <greycat> I can't even guess.
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2270 [15:22:10] <kocane> So in "free", should my gigs of
used memory show under "cached" :)?
2271 [15:22:15] <domovoy> greycat> thing is, i don't know
what could be mounted under that particular directory, doesn't
depend on me
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2273 [15:22:33] <greycat> domovoy: It's YOUR system, so YES
it depends on YOUR knowledge.
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2277 [15:23:37] <greycat> kocane:
replaced-url
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2280 [15:24:01] <domovoy> greycat> i'm not the only one
using that system, and anyway it doesn't solve the question
"why does 'findmnt -d backward' behave like
this?"
2281 [15:24:11] <greycat> *plonk*
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2283 [15:24:58] <greycat> If you've got Rival Roots editing
your fucking /etc/fstab, then I feel some pity for you, but jesus
christ, get a realistic problem if you want us to be able to help.
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2285 [15:25:44] <kocane> greycat:
2286 [15:25:45] <kocane> -/+ buffers/cache: 4.9G 2.8G
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2288 [15:25:48] <kocane> 4.9G used
2289 [15:26:07] <kocane> that is 4.9 G in cache?
2290 [15:26:18] <greycat> kocane: did you *read*
replaced-url
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2292 [15:27:03] <domovoy> greycat> fstab is not involved here,
for a full story the script is a reinstallation using debootstrap,
and the umount commands are to be sure any partition from the target
hard drive are unmounted before partitionning/formatting again
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2297 [15:28:06] <domovoy> and that means any physical partition,
but also stuff like proc, sysfs...
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2299 [15:28:41] <kocane> greycat: so in htop how would this
typically show up?
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2301 [15:28:49] <greycat> Don'tknowDon'tcare
2302 [15:29:01] <kocane> cool
2303 [15:29:05] <greycat> I would run free and read the output
according to the instructions in
replaced-url
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2307 [15:30:02] <saunamees> Hi, I am trying to upload a file with
POST, but receiving warning/not uploading. Warning is : "You
can only select one HTTP request". My Bash script:
replaced-url
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2310 [15:31:12] <sebd> thank you missmbob and teraflops, lets
investigate
2311 [15:31:20] <greycat> If this were #bash we would trigger a
whole bunch of bot factoids for the errors in that script....
2312 [15:32:09] <greycat> You can get some of them by using
replaced-url
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2314 [15:33:08] <saunamees> No issues detected ...
2315 [15:33:09] <greycat> After the bash issues are sorted out,
you'll probably be better off in #curl since your actual
question is about curl rather than bash.
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2318 [15:33:23] <teraflops> yeah +1 for that I do syntastic +
shellcheck in vim
2319 [15:33:34] <greycat> Do you want me to list off the bash
errors, then?
2320 [15:33:40] <greycat> 1) All caps variable names.
2321 [15:33:54] <greycat> 2) Command Inside A String Variable on
line 5. Write a function or use an array of arguments.
2322 [15:34:04] <greycat> 3) Unquoted parameter expansions on lin
14 and probably others.
2323 [15:34:21] <greycat> 4) Use of echo -en instead of printf.
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2325 [15:34:41] <saunamees> 4 ?
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2327 [15:34:59] <greycat> Those are the 4 that I see at the
moment. There may be more.
2328 [15:35:33] <saunamees> how is 1 or 4 an arror
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2330 [15:36:18] <greycat> All caps variable names typically
collide with internal shell and environment variables. They are
strongly discouraged. Just ask the guy who tries to make a variable
named PATH.
2331 [15:36:18] <missmbob> i dont think he got the "go to
#bash" part...
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2333 [15:36:46] <saunamees> going away, relax
2334 [15:36:53] <greycat> echo -e and echo -n and echo IN GENERAL
are deprecated because the behavior is different across systems.
printf replaces it for all fancy purposes.
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2349 [15:47:31] <jhutchins> printf seems like a coder-centric
conceit.
2350 [15:47:32] <indistylo> Folks, I am getting error from line
954-977, see
replaced-url
2351 [15:48:06] <greycat> There are genuine cases where echo
*cannot* produce the correct result. Consider echo "$foo".
It writes the contents of foo, yes? Now consider foo='-n'
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2353 [15:48:49] <greycat> On some systems/shells you'll get
the expected result, and on some systems/shells you will get
nothing.
2354 [15:49:10] <greycat> There is another class of systems/shells
that fails if you have foo='\c'
2355 [15:49:15] <missmbob> your pastebin.com just crashed chrome.
good job.
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2372 [15:55:39] <unborn> missmbob: its your browser, dont fucking
blaim others.. its our problem
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2375 [15:56:17] <missmbob> pastebin.com deserves to be blamed for
all sins
2376 [15:56:21] * unborn anyone else here today tired of an idiots? ist
sysadmin day.. com-on people :)
2377 [15:57:01] <glcx> my internet is slow
2378 [15:57:07] <unborn> missmbob: pastebin dont do a crap you
saying so.. - please go somewhere else
2379 [15:57:08] <glcx> i mush change my computer
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2381 [15:57:24] <glcx> :3
2382 [15:57:29] <glcx> must*
2383 [15:57:30] <glcx> damn :'(
2384 [15:57:40] <jmcnaught> unborn: pastebin causes problems for
lots of people, we prefer it not be used here.
2385 [15:57:50] <unborn> glcx: sure - change it.. eh
2386 [15:57:59] <glcx> meh
2387 [15:58:04] <TomTomTo1> and no need to pick a fight..
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2389 [15:58:21] <unborn> jmcnaught: aha its for real..
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2391 [15:58:36] <missmbob> thanks for playing though
2392 [15:58:42] <unborn> TomTomTo1: no ones pick the fight..
2393 [15:58:55] <unborn> - am i alone on this?
2394 [15:59:00] <TomTomTo1> yeah...
2395 [15:59:09] <unborn> - no more common sense?
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2399 [15:59:37] <glcx> you better pick a shoe
2400 [15:59:37] <unborn> TomTomTo1: sure - im sure it will follow
you.. karma is biatch.. enjoy
2401 [15:59:39] * glcx hide
2402 [15:59:42] <jmcnaught> indistylo: you might get more help if
you show the packages you're having trouble with, and what
happens when you try installing them manually. expecting people to
find and parse specific lines on puppet output might be asking too
much
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2404 [16:00:11] <jmcnaught> unborn: please be nice or quiet.
2405 [16:00:34] <indistylo> jmcnaught: I did apt-get update ,You
can see here
replaced-url
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2407 [16:00:56] <indistylo> jmcnaught: & I also did apt-cache
policy
2408 [16:00:57] <unborn> jmcnaught: im always nice - im supervised
you asking me to be quiet
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2410 [16:02:23] <unborn> jmcnaught: you as an op - is that warning
to me? - to let me down with my years of know-how? is it? - is that
new debian - help policy? specially in today when sysadmin day is
on? is it?
2411 [16:02:47] <TomTomTo1> just move on. this is getting silly.
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2413 [16:03:10] <unborn> TomTomTo1: what is getting silly? ..
2414 [16:03:13] <jmcnaught> indistylo: have you run "apt-get
update"? maybe you're on a mirror that is a little out of
date
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2419 [16:04:57] <unborn> ...is that for real people? if it is I
can go away simple.. but - where we are with freedom? where is our
debian motto?
2420 [16:05:07] <jmcnaught> unborn: i'm not an op, i'm a
regular user. i'm asking you to be respectful of others because
you're in public. if you can't, then please be quiet.
2421 [16:05:15] <unborn> - no one else on chan?
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2423 [16:05:50] <greycat> If the polite requests go unheeded, then
things may escalate. We don't want that, so we're waiting
patiently.
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2425 [16:06:09] <teraflops> unborn: just relax I appreciate your
contributions, stop calling people idiot, that's all
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2427 [16:06:46] <unborn> teraflops: - thank you. sorry for that..
just - you right.
2428 [16:06:55] <unborn> jmcnaught: sorry.
2429 [16:07:15] <indistylo> jmcnaught: yes i ran apt-get update
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2432 [16:07:59] <indistylo> So the thing I install the things from
the local repo
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2434 [16:08:19] <jmcnaught> indistylo: i no longer have a wheezy
system, but rmadison tells me that openssh-server is
1:6.0p1-4+deb7u4 in both wheezy and wheezy-security. sounds like
your local repo is not up to date
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2436 [16:08:33] <indistylo> it might be that its not available in
local version, Can you check this
replaced-url
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2440 [16:09:52] <greycat> ,v openssh-server
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2444 [16:11:28] <missmbob> judd's been gone for a while. is
that run by themill ?
2445 [16:11:44] <greycat> It's here, but apparently not
working.
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2449 [16:13:36] <teraflops> it wasnt in my channel, not it joined
and it works
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2452 [16:13:53] <teraflops> ,v openssh-server
2453 [16:13:55] <judd> Package: openssh-server on amd64 --
squeeze: 1:5.5p1-6+squeeze5; squeeze-security: 1:5.5p1-6+squeeze5;
squeeze-security-lts: 1:5.5p1-6+squeeze8; wheezy-security:
1:6.0p1-4+deb7u4; wheezy: 1:6.0p1-4+deb7u4; wheezy-backports:
1:6.6p1-4~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:6.7p1-5+deb8u2; jessie-security:
1:6.7p1-5+deb8u3; jessie-proposed-updates: 1:6.7p1-5+deb8u3; sid:
1:7.2p2-7; stretch:
2454 [16:13:56] <judd> 1:7.2p2-7
2455 [16:14:09] <teraflops> now*
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2458 [16:14:34] <greycat> That's... weird. /whois judd showed
it in #debian both before and after.
2459 [16:14:38] <unborn> judd is here but - its answer-ring only
what it knows..
2460 [16:14:53] <missmbob> greycat: wasn't here for me
either.
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2465 [16:18:15] <unborn> jmcnaught: I did abuse that paste site
for long time perhpas its good time to promote paste.debian.org?
there is one thing Ive noticed - no js need it..
2466 [16:18:27] <unborn> ..just for tests
2467 [16:18:33] <greycat>
replaced-url
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2469 [16:18:48] <unborn> oh not org but net.... :)
2470 [16:19:04] <missmbob> hell it's in the topic
2471 [16:19:23] <greycat> well, not directly but...
2472 [16:19:27] <unborn> missmbob: perhaps..im just asking..
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2485 [16:24:55] <unborn> greycat: but means indirectly anyway it
is stated there, to be honest with you I wrote my own paste which
works on js.. it self - it does see who paste and then it seas who
is decrypted hat file to see what paste is..in mean time I stopped
using it here coz - i share others mentors believes and in end of
the day paste bin should be clean..
2486 [16:25:17] <teraflops> greycat: yeah you're right e.g
elinks dislikes
replaced-url
2487 [16:25:24] <unborn> means no js no work here.
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2494 [16:27:24] <unborn> where is an problematic link on paste
bin? may I have look at it?
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2497 [16:28:05] <greycat> Randomly, pastebin.com decides that when
I am looking at a raw link (as requested by pasting a raw URL from
IRC), it wants to "quiz me" and throws some javascript at
me instead of the actual cotent.
2498 [16:28:30] <greycat> The result in elinks is some line like
"please refresh page", which of course does not actually
work.
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2500 [16:28:40] <greycat> Other people dislike pastebin.com
because it has ads, etc.
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2503 [16:29:06] <TomTomTo1> pastebin has a spamfilter that
triggers often enough when posted here, it aggressively advertises
and tries to push their paid service on you. and other problems that
i don't care enough to recall.
2504 [16:29:46] <greycat> So it's not a matter of "a
problematic link on pastebin.com" but the entire site as a
whole.
2505 [16:30:09] <unborn> yeah same for my own pastebin - it does
encrypt all data on browser bases - so ..only the person receiving
the link can read the thingy.. makes it much more secure however I
do respect - clear text :)
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2507 [16:30:10] <teraflops> unborn: Pastebin.com is swamped with
advertisements and random captchas. Malware found on pastebin.com
has resulted in it being blocked for some users. It injects CRLF
line-endings. Ads, Spamfilters, Captcha, Adds whitespace, Slow,
Ugly, No comment/annotate, Breaks copy/paste, Blocked for some
people, etc.
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2509 [16:31:08] <unborn> teraflops: I see now.. I used pastebin
ove terminal.. did not really seen this.. sorry.
2510 [16:31:22] <unborn> *over the
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2513 [16:31:30] <missmbob> how come teraflops keeps getting the
sorries when i was the one called an idiot? :P
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2516 [16:32:33] <bagbobilgins> you're not an idiot, missmbob
2517 [16:32:36] <bagbobilgins> x
2518 [16:32:44] <unborn> missmbob: we all have own days.. I did my
mistake - and I did I am deeply sorry for it
2519 [16:33:02] <missmbob> unborn: thanks
2520 [16:33:08] <missmbob> bagbobilgins: you too :P
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2524 [16:33:40] <unborn> no one calls you an idiot.. and I am
sorry if that touched you personally - its just - one of my days..
im sorry for that.
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2526 [16:34:02] <missmbob> unborn: appreciate it. hope it gets
better for you
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2529 [16:34:30] <unborn> missmbob: it did - just right a way.
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2533 [16:35:03] <unborn> - really?
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2542 [16:37:12] <unborn> or perhaps - not really.......
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2580 [16:57:43] <Guest25949> adobe flash not updated at servers
2581 [16:58:24] <greycat> and...?
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2584 [16:58:54] <Guest25949> using firefox
2585 [16:59:06] <unborn> Guest25949: and?
2586 [16:59:19] <torpet_> what kernel will debian stretch use? i
remember reading somewhere that it would use 4.1, but now i see that
testing has 4.6 in it.
2587 [16:59:24] <bagbobilgins> Guest25949: 32 bit?
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2590 [16:59:51] <Guest25949> 64 bit
2591 [16:59:55] <unborn> torpet_: would you mind to talk to
stretch people on this issue? - another channel
2592 [17:00:08] <bagbobilgins> Guest25949: perhaps look into
pepperflash?
2593 [17:00:14] <missmbob> torpet_: it has 4.6 right now. it
changes often
2594 [17:00:18] <greycat> torpet_: last I heard, they were
postponing the freeze specifically get an anticipated kernel version
(4.10 I think)
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2596 [17:00:29] <unborn> Guest25949: on my end everything works..
what is your problem?
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2598 [17:00:36] <unborn> may I know?
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2600 [17:02:05] <Guest25949> wont update not sure if its pkg
manager
2601 [17:02:10] <greycat> "2016-03-03: Decided to defer
everything by 2 months to release with Linux 4.10 " from
replaced-url
2602 [17:02:35] <missmbob> Guest25949: i don't use it but
i've heard about this "wont upgrade" problem from
being in here. apparently purge and reinstall fixes it. no idea why.
don't care.
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2604 [17:02:55] <unborn> Guest25949: did you realised - with
chrome you dont need to install anything? its build in
2605 [17:03:06] <missmbob> unborn: he's not using chrome
2606 [17:03:15] <bagbobilgins> Guest25949: chrome would be my
recommondation, too
2607 [17:03:23] <Guest25949> believe pepperflash is chromiunium
dont like code
2608 [17:03:29] <bagbobilgins> without getting into a who loves
which browser best war
2609 [17:03:41] <unborn> missmbob: sure - im positive - he did not
say anything like it
2610 [17:03:51] <bagbobilgins> but the pepperflash is taken from
chrome, it is better maintained than adobeflash, I hear
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2613 [17:04:11] <missmbob> unborn: 14:58 < Guest25949> using
firefox
2614 [17:04:15] <missmbob> unborn: are you drunk?
2615 [17:04:20] <unborn> missmbob: - they need to tell..
2616 [17:04:35] <Guest25949> ref
replaced-url
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2618 [17:04:59] <unborn> missmbob: drunk? - I wish - perhaps I
should be..
2619 [17:05:03] <bagbobilgins>
replaced-url
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2623 [17:05:29] <missmbob> unborn: perhaps. seriously. read or..i
don't know. don't comment
2624 [17:05:38] <unborn> missmbob: well.. perhaps - you can get to
this issue
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2626 [17:05:46] <bagbobilgins> ahh, sorry, I see from your link
you may have issues with google code trusting?
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2628 [17:05:50] <bagbobilgins> Guest25949: ^
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2630 [17:06:07] <bagbobilgins> but somehow adobe are ok?
2631 [17:06:18] <unborn> sure.. :)
2632 [17:06:19] <bagbobilgins> in that case gnash
2633 [17:06:31] <bagbobilgins> but I cannot attest to the quality
of that
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2635 [17:07:33] <missmbob> google got fucked up when apt switched
from sha1...i think #chromium would be a good idea on how to fix the
trust issue.
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2640 [17:08:23] <unborn> missmbob: sorry markybob.. have a go..
2641 [17:08:39] <Guest25949> use private search engine startpage
servers from netherlands theirs goes to google servers then back to
them then to me
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2643 [17:08:58] <missmbob> unborn: no. you're just going on
ignore until my next wipe
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2649 [17:09:54] <unborn> Guest25949: private search engine? -
reason ? perhaps you follow the guide
2650 [17:10:01] <unborn> s
2651 [17:10:31] <bagbobilgins> Guest25949: I don't know where
the best place to get support for firefox with adobe flash, but
perhaps if you paste your error message we can begin to help you
2652 [17:10:43] <bagbobilgins> I accidental "is"
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2655 [17:11:37] <teraflops> imo chromium is saner since chrome
ships its own set of libraries amongst other issues
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2658 [17:12:44] <bagbobilgins> hang on, firefox..? Guest25949 are
you on testing?
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2660 [17:13:03] <missmbob> bagbobilgins: fyi...firefox is on
jessie now too
2661 [17:13:05] <bagbobilgins> ,v firefox
2662 [17:13:06] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 --
jessie-backports/firefox-release: 47.0.1-1~bpo80+1; sid: 47.0.1-1;
experimental: 48.0~b1-1
2663 [17:13:14] <greycat> it's "firefox-esr" on
jessie, IIRC
2664 [17:13:17] <bagbobilgins> ah, I need to look at backports
2665 [17:13:26] <bagbobilgins> sorry
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2667 [17:13:53] <greycat> Guest25949: please state your version of
Debian, *exactly* which browser you are using, and what the problem
is.
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2669 [17:14:13] <greycat> Just saying "adobe flash" does
not constitute a coherent problem report.
2670 [17:14:18] <unborn> he wont..
2671 [17:14:41] <unborn> - that is what I mean it..
2672 [17:15:38] <bagbobilgins> unborn: a lot of your problems with
communicating seem to come down to using your return key as some
sort of additional punctuation symbol
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2682 [17:16:55] <unborn> bagbobilgins: I am happy there - i do not
using your crap saying here.. can you see it? or you are - cannot
call you an idiot, but perhaps you are?
2683 [17:17:19] <missmbob> okay c'mon now
2684 [17:17:32] <bagbobilgins> quite possibly, yes, unborn: in the
sense that I don't have a vote, definitely
2685 [17:17:39] <unborn> really people ?
2686 [17:17:48] <greycat> unborn: please stop.
2687 [17:17:55] <missmbob> unborn: and read
replaced-url
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2689 [17:18:12] <bagbobilgins> but enough, we should just wait for
Guest25949 to get back to us, or some other problem to occupy us
2690 [17:18:13] <unborn> greycat: sure.
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2692 [17:19:07] <Guest25949> thanks bagbobobilgins firefox can be
configured not able in chromium imo as little proprietary as
possible those who control code can do good & bad
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2695 [17:19:37] <missmbob> Guest25949: just an fyi - chrome can do
netflix on linux. chromium can't.
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2697 [17:19:47] <bagbobilgins> Guest25949: if that is your prime
motivation I'd suggest gnash over adobe flash
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2700 [17:20:44] <bagbobilgins>
replaced-url
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2702 [17:20:59] <Guest25949> will try but not sure it will works
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2704 [17:21:01] <bagbobilgins> it is non-proprietary and open
source
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2707 [17:21:30] <teraflops> missmbob: chromium can't do
nexflix on debian ^
2708 [17:21:36] <Guest25949> ok thank you very much
2709 [17:21:55] <bagbobilgins> you're welcome, chum
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2711 [17:23:02] <missmbob> teraflops: that is what i said..
2712 [17:23:13] <teraflops> you said linux!
2713 [17:23:18] <teraflops> ;)
2714 [17:23:29] <missmbob> oh dear :/
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2719 [17:26:22] <mint__> hello
2720 [17:26:38] <mint__> I am installing mint in Macbook air. How
it is different then debian
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2722 [17:27:35] <bagbobilgins> mint is derived from debian via
ubuntu, mint__
2723 [17:27:36] <MrKeuner> hello, I have 5 debian machine working
on the same NFS location. Is there a suggested way to lock a text
file while any of the 5 machines is modifying it?
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2725 [17:27:57] <bagbobilgins> unless you have mind DE which is
directly derived from Debian
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2727 [17:28:03] <mint__> bagbobilgins: Okay so which one is
better?
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2729 [17:28:08] <bagbobilgins> Debian
2730 [17:28:08] <missmbob> mint__: depending on what you use
it's based on debian or ubuntu (which is based on debian).
anyway, neither are supported here. the main difference is they have
packages newer than stable and more user-friendly.
2731 [17:28:22] <glcx> Isn't mint designed for unexperimented
users ?
2732 [17:28:22] <mint__> Okay Isee
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2734 [17:28:38] <mint__> I have used debian it was nice
2735 [17:28:38] <bagbobilgins> glcx: that's my impression
2736 [17:28:48] <mint__> but mint look cooler
2737 [17:29:05] <omajid_> hey folks. can anyone point me to a
debian document that spells out "don't put binaries in
your source tarball" or "if the source tarball contains
prebuilt binaries, remove them during build" or something?
2738 [17:29:15] <glcx> well you can customize to infinite with
debian anyway
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2740 [17:30:09] <glcx> it's only an GUI
2741 [17:30:53] <mint__> yeah
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2744 [17:31:07] <mint__> I wanted debian but debian won't
work with macs
2745 [17:31:25] <missmbob> mint__: cooler?
replaced-url
2746 [17:31:27] <bagbobilgins> is it a powerpc mac, missmbob?
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2748 [17:31:47] <bagbobilgins> sorry missmbob, mint__ ^
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2750 [17:32:28] <TomTomTo1> those still exist? :D
2751 [17:32:47] <missmbob> bagbobilgins: ironically that's
why i changed to miss. there were too many nicks starting with
"mark" and people kept getting different nicks and i never
got notified. went to miss because there aren't many :P
2752 [17:33:42] <bagbobilgins> well, risibly, I am just /me to
annoy someone who's nick starts "bag"
2753 [17:33:52] <Guest25949> mint i believe it would with
partitioning i maybe incorrect
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2757 [17:34:33] <bagbobilgins> mint__: what do you mean by
"debian won't work with macs"?
2758 [17:34:44] <mint__> Guest25949: I had done installation but
after then it wouldn't able to boot, just stuck at blank
screen.
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2761 [17:35:06] <missmbob> yeah. uefi. follow the wiki he pointed
you to
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2763 [17:35:11] <mint__> bagbobilgins: debian not work with
macbook air
2764 [17:35:13] <missmbob> you can't use live, btw.
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2766 [17:35:24] <missmbob> oh air...i don't know about air,
actually.
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2770 [17:36:04] <mint__> AIR
2771 [17:36:06] <Putti> mint__, which air? I did just late (or
possibly early) 2015 debian scretch installation and it worked fine
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2774 [17:36:19] <mint__> mid 2013
2775 [17:36:29] <mint__> Putti:
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2782 [17:37:57] <mint__> Debian is best
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2785 [17:38:11] <mint__> Richard Stallman's GNU
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2787 [17:39:28] <Putti> mint__,
replaced-url
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2789 [17:40:20] <Guest25949> mint gnu/linux stallman/torvalds
2790 [17:40:20] <missmbob> mint__: he actually uses gnewsense and
debian pisses him off...
2791 [17:41:02] <mint__> why torvalds not accepting PRs?
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2795 [17:42:01] <missmbob> hell i've emailed the man. he gets
thousands a day i'm sure. he's busy. you know...doing
kernel work and raising a bunch of kids
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2797 [17:42:35] <teraflops> missmbob: hehe
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2800 [17:43:04] <bagbobilgins> missmbob: I asked the gnewsense
about it, and apparently he only did the whole distro for RMS, no
other "intended audience"
2801 [17:43:18] <bagbobilgins> gnewsense guy*
2802 [17:43:35] <Guest25949> a good distro easy to use mageia if
not debian see
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2804 [17:45:01] <teraflops> if you like GNU + rolling release
parabola is a good choice too
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2807 [17:46:23] <zykotick9> teraflops: if you like GNU + bleeding
edge bugs parabola is a choice too ;)
2808 [17:46:24] <missmbob> Guest25949: there is now mageia on that
page. why do you think such a tiny community is better than the huge
community of debian?
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2811 [17:46:38] <Fyr> guys, I'm trying to install Debian onto
VM. how do Io set English language and Bangkok timezone?
2812 [17:46:38] <missmbob> s/now/no/g
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2815 [17:47:05] <Guest25949> i believe most of binaries in debian
have been verified i may be incorrect
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2817 [17:47:26] <jhutchins> !locale
2818 [17:47:26] <dpkg> A locale is a set of rules for presenting
information to humans according to local conventions (date format,
thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales>
to establish on a Debian system.
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2819 [17:47:29] <greycat> Fyr: post-install you can always do
dpkg-reconfigure locales, and dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
2820 [17:47:45] <missmbob> Guest25949: yes. that's why we
dont support deriviratives. we don't know what they
did/changed.
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2823 [17:48:00] <teraflops> zykotick9: neither parabola not arch
are bleeding edge? do you really want to re-start this discussion?
it looks like that movie Groundhog Day
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2825 [17:48:01] <Fyr> greycat, I don't need post-install, I
need when-installing.
2826 [17:48:02] <greycat> If you need it during the install, well,
I think some menus pop up at appropriate times.
2827 [17:48:03] <jhutchins> Fyr: Timezone and locale are seperate
settings.
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2830 [17:48:09] <Time-Warp> anyidea how to fix this. its a mega
crash issue
2831 [17:48:12] <Time-Warp> [drm:ironlake_irq_handler [i915]]
*ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun
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2833 [17:48:37] <Time-Warp> lol
2834 [17:48:38] <jhutchins> Time-Warp: Did you use a ball peen or
a claw hammer?
2835 [17:48:41] <greycat> Time zone is irrelevant when installing.
I could see language being important. Isn't that like the first
two questions you are asked? Keyboard and language?
2836 [17:48:45] <Time-Warp> jhutchins: LMAO
2837 [17:49:07] <Fyr> greycat, timezone is always relevant when
installing.
2838 [17:49:14] <greycat> No it's not.
2839 [17:49:20] <missmbob> it isnt
2840 [17:49:21] <Fyr> when you choose language, the isntaller sets
the list of countries.
2841 [17:49:21] <Guest25949> missmbob was just a suggestion my
choice is debian a universal o/s
2842 [17:49:30] <jhutchins> Time-Warp: Seriously, much more info
required, release, architecture, what program you were running in
what environment, the full error text, etc.
2843 [17:49:30] <teraflops> Time-Warp: does it really crash? most
of the time is just a harmless message
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2846 [17:49:38] <urand0m> i do not know much about pgp but i just
started using kgpg and realized that its using gnupg v1
shouldn't it be using v2?
2847 [17:49:53] <urand0m> i tried to upgrade kgpg and it says that
its already the newest version
2848 [17:49:54] <greycat> Time zone does not matter while
installing. If the timestamps on /boot/config-blah are a bit off,
who cares.
2849 [17:50:07] <Time-Warp> teraflops: its strange. like ill be
chilling and these lines go across the screen. only been doing that
sence the dist-upgrade
2850 [17:50:09] <Time-Warp> lol
2851 [17:50:19] <Time-Warp> so i have to hard reboot
2852 [17:51:03] <Time-Warp> so i thought i would check dmesg and
right after it starts flikering for a bit then it shows up in dmesg
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2854 [17:51:15] <Time-Warp> then 10 mins later bam total crash
2855 [17:52:03] <teraflops> Time-Warp: dist-upgrade to which
release?
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2858 [17:53:18] <TomTomTo1> urand0m: gnupg2 is not an upgrade to
gnupg1
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2860 [17:53:31] <Guest25949> teraflops you sure arch is not
bleeding edge
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2863 [17:54:10] <urand0m> TomTomTo1, i do not understand, are you
saying gnupg1 is the newest version?
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2868 [17:55:21] <archer121> Hi, we are going to run a registration
counter. In one of the machines, we will ask people to sit and take
a photo with a webcam. Is there a software in linux that can take
the photo, and allow the size to quickly crop it and save it?
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2870 [17:55:26] <TomTomTo1> urand0m: yes. the naming is a bit
confusing. but as i understand, gnupg2 mainly differs in how
it's built against other libs.
2871 [17:56:03] <Guest25949> urandOm im sure youve looked at pkg
manager
2872 [17:56:11] <urand0m> TomTomTo1, i see, well which has the
least amount of known vulnerabilities?
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2875 [17:56:38] <jhutchins> Time-Warp: Sounds like a hardware
issue. Heat related.
2876 [17:56:56] <Putti> archer121, a script can do it for you with
one click of a button
2877 [17:57:03] <dannysantos> I want my Debian to execute a script
when the lid is closed. I have tryed to follow the tutorial for
ubuntu
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2881 [17:57:24] <Time-Warp> jhutchins:
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2882 [17:57:29] <TomTomTo1> urand0m: you can always check the
tracker of doom for both.
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2883 [17:57:50] <Putti> archer121, but this ain't really
debian related so we should discuss this on some other channel
2884 [17:57:58] <teraflops> Guest25949: I'm pretty sure, also
that "bleeding edge bugs" only denotes ignorance
2885 [17:58:27] <zykotick9> teraflops: ignorance from
experience... but YMMV?
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2887 [17:59:09] <teraflops> zykotick9: if you call that
"experience" your problem is worse than I thought
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2890 [18:00:26] <jhutchins> Time-Warp: That's an ubuntu bug.
2891 [18:00:32] <urand0m> TomTomTo1, i see. i suppose i should
also track kgpg - i would like to learn how to use the command line
version but am just experimenting with a gui for right now until i
understand things better
2892 [18:00:48] <Time-Warp> jhutchins: i saw that too but the
effects are the same on debian its strange
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2894 [18:01:04] <teraflops> zykotick9: anyway if you want to
discuss it I'm ok with that but not here
2895 [18:01:12] <Time-Warp> it must be hardware
2896 [18:01:13] <urand0m> i also i need an alternative to
truecrypt = i found something called veracrypt, but i couldn't
get it to work .. then i found something called tcplay i think it
was called but its all cli, do you have any suggestions?
2897 [18:01:16] <teraflops> zykotick9: -offtopic or whatever
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2901 [18:02:53] <Guest25949> teraflops im sure you are correct no
perfect o/s all have bugs made by humans as you know
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2908 [18:06:30] <teraflops> Guest25949: my point is that being
upstream does not mean more bugs and does not require a "patch
everything downstream" infrastructure because bugs in upstream
are fixed in new releases
2909 [18:06:30] <Guest25949> urandOm check history of truecrypt i
think veracrypt may be ok check
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2914 [18:07:02] <greycat> This is at least the third time he has
tossed that link at us. Do I need to open it and find out if
he's spamming?
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2918 [18:08:23] <missmbob> greycat: no
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2921 [18:09:29] <Guest25949> greycat be my guest but you wont see
proof as im not just info
2922 [18:09:29] <helo> does debian automatically set any flow
control for /dev/ttyS0?
2923 [18:10:04] <helo> the first time i boot (this VM...), it can
read from the serial port correctly, but after rebooting it acts
quite odd
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2929 [18:12:10] <jhutchins> Time-Warp: Things that change with
time rather than with specific activity always suggest hardware and
heat.
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2933 [18:14:08] <Guest25949> dannysantos do you wantdesktop
environment or not
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2936 [18:15:18] <dannysantos> Guest25949: Don't know what do
you mean. My environment is gnome
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2943 [18:16:44] <Guest25949> dannysantos look in privacy
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2947 [18:18:00] <dannysantos> Guest25949: Can you be more
specific. I can't understand what you are saying
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2954 [18:18:30] <ewew> Hi. Why im i getting older source for
apache2 than binary ?
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2963 [18:20:56] <Guest25949> dannysantos systemd user or i have an
alternate xlock from package manager
2964 [18:21:07] <greycat> I use i3lock.
2965 [18:21:21] <greycat> No, I do not use i3. Or any other piece
of i3. Just i3lock, as a replacement for xlock which is no longer in
Debian.
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2970 [18:22:25] <dannysantos> I have all the default programs in
debian. I haven't installed any other packages... I want to
execute a script on lid close on my user only
2971 [18:22:41] <Guest25949> thanks greycat info was from aug 2015
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2973 [18:23:24] <teraflops> I like slock
2974 [18:23:46] <teraflops> it's in suckless-tools
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2984 [18:28:17] <Guest25949> dannysantos handlelidswitch or acpi
handle last one shouldlock your display with i3lock as suggested
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2987 [18:30:32] <dannysantos> Guest25949: I don't have
i3lock. handlelidswitch is a package or something?
2988 [18:31:23] <dannysantos> have to go, thank you anyway
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2990 [18:32:03] <simbalion> I'm running Jessie 8.5, is there
anything in particular I need to do to get DVD playback to work? I
installed libdvdcss2 but so far smplayer and vlc both seem unable to
load a disc
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2995 [18:34:37] <Guest25949> dannysantos second one
/etc/acpi/events/lid containing event=button[/].8close action=sudo
-u youuser /usr/bin/i3lock -display :0
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2997 [18:35:29] <DammitJim> how can I see what process is
establishing a samba connection?
2998 [18:35:43] <DammitJim> I've tried netstat -ptu but there
is no PID or program
2999 [18:36:46] <Guest25949> dannysantos thats *close rather than
8close
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3087 [19:07:36] <emankcin> Trying to ssh as root into a fresh
install. I haven't had to use PermitRootLogin, but the option
does nothing regardless. Geting Failed password in auth.log. Any
ideas?
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3091 [19:09:06] <emankcin> I can login as a user and su for root,
but just wondering why the root access is denied.
3092 [19:09:08] <unborn> DammitJim: it all works as you wished -
what do you except from us?
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3094 [19:10:02] <unborn> emankcin: did you restart sshd?
3095 [19:10:04] <missmbob> emankcin: didn't you answer your
own question? permitrootlogin
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3097 [19:10:18] <emankcin> missmbob: PermitRootLogin has no
effect.
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3099 [19:10:36] <emankcin> unborn: Yes, I've restarted sshd
and rebooted the system.
3100 [19:10:36] <bagbobilgins> even after restarting sshd?
3101 [19:10:40] <missmbob> emankcin: well then i have to ask if
you restarted
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3103 [19:10:43] <bagbobilgins> hehe
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3106 [19:11:09] <missmbob> anyway smoke break. good luck
3107 [19:11:11] <emankcin> Don't have any other valid user
limitations in ssh_config
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3109 [19:11:22] <unborn> so you done something wrong for su user
there..
3110 [19:11:28] <bagbobilgins> do you have e different keymap from
what you set the password with?
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3114 [19:11:42] <bagbobilgins> s/e/a/
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3116 [19:11:57] <emankcin> bagbobilgins: I don't think so.
Should all be US
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3118 [19:12:27] <pk64_mobile_> I like the control gitlab has for
my Debian packages and source. Any opinion on it vs the widely
popular github?
3119 [19:12:50] <unborn> - for any debian distro - you can do it
with goole help - sorry to say that but - you can hire up some other
folks to do it for you.....
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3123 [19:14:03] <TomTomTo1> pk64_mobile_: well, gitlab is
self-hosted so it's two different pair of shoes.
3124 [19:14:10] <unborn> pk64_mobile_: ask github channel....for
that
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3127 [19:14:47] <NeilHanlon> hey guys.. I can't seem to find
linux-source-4.5.0 in jessie-backports and I need it for
virtualbox/vagrant. so i'm thinking of just upgrading to the
4.6 kernel, but when i run the command it says this
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3129 [19:14:52] <NeilHanlon>
replaced-url
3130 [19:14:52] <NeilHanlon> Is that ok?
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3132 [19:15:55] <unborn> TomTomTo1: its package which you can run
but on end source - it will encode you stuff pretty badly - so -
user is free to do it however I suggest to hire pro there....
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3134 [19:16:24] <TomTomTo1> unborn: i don't understand a word
you say.
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3136 [19:17:11] <unborn> NeilHanlon: you use vagrant - ask them
for support...
3137 [19:17:12] <bagbobilgins> unborn: too long at the codeface?
3138 [19:17:18] <unborn> tlom
3139 [19:17:51] <unborn> TomTomTo1: its okay...
3140 [19:17:55] <emankcin> bagbobilgins: keymaps are identical on
all 3 systems (1 desktop, 2 servers)
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3143 [19:18:11] <emankcin> I can log in as a regular user,
however, then su
3144 [19:18:20] <unborn> TomTomTo1: we call it collaboration here
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3147 [19:18:39] <NeilHanlon> unborn: I'm not asking about
vagrant. I'm asking about upgrading the kernel of my os.
3148 [19:18:50] <NeilHanlon> and the fact it wants to uninstall
those two packages
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3152 [19:19:54] <unborn> NeilHanlon: sure.. your kernel is
installed via the dum fucking vagrant - so ask them.. - in fact -
you are out and doomed without them.
3153 [19:19:56] <bagbobilgins> NeilHanlon: from what I saw, my
thinking is that with the deps and whatnot your install pulls down
you will get functionality of those two removed packages in other,
newer packages
3154 [19:20:14] <unborn> - can someone put me on mute ? just for
today..
3155 [19:20:19] <unborn> thanks.
3156 [19:20:29] <bagbobilgins> NeilHanlon: but I'd have to
see the rest of the stdout
3157 [19:20:45] <bagbobilgins> unborn: /q
3158 [19:20:55] <bagbobilgins> mutes you just nice
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3161 [19:23:00] <NeilHanlon> unborn: sounds like you should just
leave the channel and stop being a dick
3162 [19:23:08] <NeilHanlon> bagbobilgins: that was my suspicion
as well
3163 [19:23:17] <NeilHanlon> bagbobilgins: just was looking for a
bit more confirmation :)
3164 [19:23:40] <NeilHanlon> unborn: and my kernel isn't
installed via vagrant. I think you're seriously
misunderstanding everything.
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3166 [19:24:17] <bagbobilgins> what is this vagrant of which you
speak?
3167 [19:24:18] <unborn> NeilHanlon: that what I was asking here
to mute me here - clearly you dont do suggest user what he should
do.. dick yes you are an dick and we all know it..
3168 [19:24:38] <bagbobilgins> unborn: do you use undernet, at
all?
3169 [19:24:45] <bagbobilgins> I know a place for you
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3172 [19:26:30] <unborn> you did installed this via some wagrant -
if you do understand what an how it works - you would not say
anything else - today is sysadmin day so - get your brain in or I
someone should mute me here - or I will tell you in classic organic
way - if you cannot do it you dont understand it...
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3174 [19:27:19] <unborn> you are not an sysadmin who deployed this
- otherwise you knew it.. so - again what do you expecting from us?
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3176 [19:27:33] <TomTomTo1> you are finghting someone that
isn't here...
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3178 [19:28:11] <unborn> TomTomTo1: im saying - he does not
appreciate us
3179 [19:28:30] <greycat> He's not here to hear you.
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3181 [19:28:46] <unborn> ah he left? then he is sorted
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3185 [19:29:41] <Senji> What's the smallest image of debian I
can install for a VM that has networking/apt-get and nothing else?
How do I go about creating an iso with just that?
3186 [19:29:49] <greycat> !netinst
3187 [19:29:49] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, netinst is
a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the
installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can
install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base
install and more packages later. See
replaced-url
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3189 [19:30:18] <unborn> Senji: netinstall is the best and was
always :)
3190 [19:30:33] <bagbobilgins> true, that
3191 [19:30:47] <bagbobilgins> even a broken clock is right twice
a day...
3192 [19:31:06] <Senji> I'm going to basically make a small
vm image with a couple of FUSE fses and samba then open networking
to host only
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3194 [19:31:26] <unborn> Senji: still net install
3195 [19:31:41] <unborn> its best image you can get
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3197 [19:32:15] <greycat> The only times netinst is NOT the right
choice are when you're using a laptop with proprietary
hardware, where you need netinst-plus-nonfree-firmware, or when
you're installing on a non-networked system in a third-world
country.
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3215 [19:38:56] * unborn thank you tripkin :)
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3217 [19:39:21] <tripkin> Np!
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3220 [19:39:44] * tripkin mutes unborn for next 12 hours...
3221 [19:39:53] <teraflops> …so non-networked system in a
*first-world* country is fine for netinst^?
3222 [19:39:57] <unborn> tripkin: I nearly loose it.. thanks for
mute :)
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3225 [19:40:17] <greycat> If you're not networked,
you're in a third-world country. Like the United States or
Canada or ....
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3227 [19:40:39] <tripkin> Definitely Canada... 8'( It is bad
here.
3228 [19:40:44] * teraflops shrugs
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3230 [19:40:50] <bagbobilgins> is the second world networked?
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3237 [19:44:10] <Senji> bagbobilgins: second world has better
internet than first world
3238 [19:44:16] <Senji> source: I live in eastern europe
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3240 [19:45:04] <`Kevin> Senji: certain areas :)
3241 [19:45:17] <bagbobilgins> I have a friend in Poland who
mentioned 250Mbps down
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3243 [19:45:53] <bagbobilgins> I wasn't sure if he transposed
s/m/k/
3244 [19:46:04] <`Kevin> twc offers 300Mb/s in nyc
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3246 [19:46:38] <teraflops> I have 300/300 at home here is spain ^
3247 [19:46:52] <bagbobilgins> I have 30/10 in UK
3248 [19:47:12] <`Kevin> teraflops: symmetric is costly here :|
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3250 [19:47:59] <teraflops> hmm 67€ tax included plus 2G of
data 4g + calls
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3263 [19:54:17] <tripkin> Oh, don't get me wrong! We can get
good speeds here in Canada. If you are willing to pay the price...
One town near Calgary offers gigabit fibre for $50. That is a sweet
deal for them. Cablecos and telcos wouldn't give them service.
LOL
3264 [19:54:31] <tripkin> And that is symmetric
3265 [19:55:14] <tripkin> I might have to move there just for the
internet!
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3267 [19:55:49] <`Kevin> need some google fiber
3268 [19:55:59] <teraflops> to be honest I dont care about
download speed beyong 30Mb what I want is upload speed
3269 [19:56:01] <tripkin> Cheaper than what I am paying for 7Mb
down and 100k up. So sad...
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3271 [19:56:16] <tripkin> I agree.
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3281 [19:59:46] <emankcin> 'PermitRootLogin no'
Doesn't even stop me from using root on the server I can login
to
3282 [19:59:54] <emankcin> Does ssh_config do anything?
3283 [20:00:13] <unborn> emankcin: did you restarted your sshd?
3284 [20:00:20] <emankcin> unborn: Yessir
3285 [20:00:22] <rattking> yes it does..are you restarting ssh
after modifying the config file?
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3287 [20:01:18] <unborn> so there are two other things to disable
this.. - do you want to disable asking for username and password in
ssh? like only the keys?
3288 [20:01:19] <emankcin> rattking: I did, yes
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3294 [20:02:23] <emankcin> unborn: No, just trying to figure out
why I can ssh into one server as root, but not the other server. In
either server ssh_config seems to do nothing, as on the server I
cannot login to, setting PermitRootLogin yes does not allow me to
login, and on the server I can login to, PermitRootLogin no
doesn't stop me.
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3296 [20:02:35] <greycat> sshd_config not ssh_config
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3298 [20:02:55] <greycat> ssh_config is for ssh (the client).
sshd_config is for sshd (the server)
3299 [20:03:22] <emankcin> greycat: Thank you. -_-"
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3301 [20:03:35] <emankcin> Time for fresh air I think
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3304 [20:03:43] <unborn> emankcin: well one of your settings have
some stuff not allowed on another.. its simple.. btw I would not
allow root at all times with password
3305 [20:03:51] <unborn> its good advice
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3309 [20:04:09] <emankcin> unborn: No, I'll probably change
it to key based if I do
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3311 [20:04:27] <unborn> please do so.. its just best way
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3313 [20:04:30] <emankcin> unborn: But more than likely I'll
just have user login then sudo or su from there in both cases
3314 [20:05:07] <unborn> emankcin: nothing there to stop you to
use su - 'sudo' - at your wish :)
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3316 [20:05:21] <unborn> in both cases - yes
3317 [20:05:21] <bagbobilgins> greycat the wise and powerful
3318 [20:05:27] <emankcin> greycat: Thanks for not underestimating
my stupidity. Ugh.
3319 [20:05:42] <emankcin> greycat: Thanks for your help.
3320 [20:06:06] <unborn> emankcin: but if you have ssh keys - no
su or sudo need it.. just log in as root directly
3321 [20:06:30] <bagbobilgins> emankcin: he's right you know,
ssh keys
3322 [20:06:34] <emankcin> unborn: It would be nice to have that
option. I'll set up the keys for it today.
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3324 [20:06:54] <emankcin> bagbobilgins: Yea, that's the
plan, this is just in the interim. Just trying to figure out why it
wasn't working
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3327 [20:08:03] <emankcin> Just a brainfart, as usual
3328 [20:08:09] <magyar> hi, I have two network interfaces on my
system, how can I make sure that traffic that is generated on the
second interface always goes in and out on that interface?
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3330 [20:08:24] <bagbobilgins> so often it is the wetware
integration, emankcin ;)
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3333 [20:09:43] <unborn> magyar: you can trust the debian on this
- however if you must be sure - use cable or wifi - just check where
are you connected to.
3334 [20:09:57] <DexterF> hi
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3336 [20:10:11] <emankcin> "session opened for user
root" hurrah
3337 [20:10:37] <bagbobilgins> hello DexterF
3338 [20:10:45] <tripkin> We could all say hi back, but it is much
more useful to let us know what it is you are looking for help with.
If you are just chatting, there are other channels dedicated to
that.
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3341 [20:11:11] <DexterF> hi all. deb, kodi media center, GL
screensavers missing. heard might be a symlink bug, cannot find
anything, though. pointers appreciated.
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3346 [20:12:33] <TomTomTo1> DexterF: did you mean xscreensaver-gl
?
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3348 [20:12:38] <unborn> emankcin: today is debian day or sysadmin
day - be just happy as we all are ;)
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3351 [20:13:34] <magyar> unborn: i have an odd issue, where if I
attach a virtual bridge to the interface that presents the default
route, all virt systems are able to access the internet, but if I
attach the virt bridge to the second interface( that is not used for
def gw) the virt systems not able to communicate to the outside
world
3352 [20:13:52] <dannysantos> I want my laptop debian to run a
script when the lid is close. How can I do that? I have tried ubuntu
way through this page
replaced-url
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3357 [20:14:51] <unborn> magyar: ah that is whole another issue
you said here.. you should ask this in first place - it would save
you some time ;) so - vms does not see network right?
3358 [20:14:58] <DexterF> TomTomTo1: up to now I was sure kodi
delivered them. lemme check on a different system...
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3361 [20:16:10] <unborn> sorry - i mean on lan..
3362 [20:16:17] <magyar> unborn: they only see the dmz network
that they are attached to, but not able to route passed the dmz, all
other physical devices are able connect when attached to the dmz
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3368 [20:17:13] <tripkin> magyar, quick question, why would you
want all your devices in the dmz, even the virtual ones?
3369 [20:17:45] <emankcin> unborn: Oh still happy, just smh a bit
haha
3370 [20:17:50] <Epakai> dannysantos: does your laptop do sleep or
suspend when the lid closes as well?
3371 [20:17:50] <magyar> tripkin: security?
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3373 [20:18:07] <tripkin> Much safer to just open ports through
the firewall and monitor those. Every other bit of traffic will be
blocked. Saves a lot of headaches and monitoring is easier.
3374 [20:18:15] <dannysantos> Epakai: no, it does nothing
3375 [20:18:21] <unborn> dmz is cool to have but if you running
multiple srvs on one network its - nightmare..so what i would
suggest is to investigate that you need from srv 1 and 2 and 3 and
etc.. manually open ports for each of them.. i know I do not speak
very human here but - you should understand me
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3378 [20:18:42] <DexterF> TomTomTo1: no, I mean
"Euphoria". kodi used to bundle this, I think
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3381 [20:18:49] <unborn> magyar: ^^^
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3383 [20:18:57] <awal1> trying to create some startup files, but I
have no much idea about bash vs sh. which one I may want? (#!/bin/?
) ?
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3385 [20:19:14] <Flippylosaurus> #!/usr/bin/env sh
3386 [20:19:14] <unborn> emankcin: save you haha for later.. :)
3387 [20:19:20] <Flippylosaurus> awal1, use that
3388 [20:19:20] <tripkin> magyar, you do know that machines in the
dmz are fully exposed, right? Closing ports aside, it is difficult
to monitor traffic for problems. That is where the firewall comes
in.
3389 [20:19:21] <greycat> Use #!/bin/sh if you write using the
POSIX sh feature set. Use #!/bin/bash if you write with bash
extensions.
3390 [20:19:23] <awal1> some WM's use sh (like fluxbox)
others almost bash
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3392 [20:19:52] <awal1> Flippylosaurus, if sh, why so?
3393 [20:19:54] <awal1> :D
3394 [20:20:04] <greycat> Ignore everyone but me. :-P
3395 [20:20:05] <unborn> tripkin: the base is - if you do have dmz
on your network nothing else will work coz its fucking dmz :)
3396 [20:20:13] <unborn> just use your brain
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3398 [20:20:18] <teraflops> awal1: startup?
3399 [20:20:21] <tripkin> awal1, bash is for a login prompt and
includes your .bashrc, etc. sh is for the system, it does not need
any of that. Of course, you must specify full command paths, etc.
3400 [20:20:22] <Epakai> dannysantos: darn, i found plenty of
systemd unit's that have WantedBy=suspend.target, but i'm
not immediately finding if there is a target for lid closing
3401 [20:20:27] <greycat> Jesus.
3402 [20:20:32] <awal1> teraflops, yes
3403 [20:20:35] <Flippylosaurus> awal1: as far as i know the sh
env will return the shell used on the system
3404 [20:20:51] <greycat> OK, here is a counter-suggestion: STOP
ASKING BASH/SH QUESTIONS in #debian if people are going to keep
spewing wrong answers here. Ask in #bash instead.
3405 [20:20:58] <teraflops> awal1: for the WM/DM?
3406 [20:21:13] <greycat> Everything you are hearing from EVERYONE
BUT ME has been wrong.
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3409 [20:21:35] <tripkin> greycat is right!
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3411 [20:21:46] <dannysantos> Epakai: I have tried the ubuntu how
to but it does nothing apparently
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3417 [20:22:25] <awal1> greycat, as a "simple" debian
end user, I confess I have a limited knowledge about bash/zsh/sh and
so...
3418 [20:22:30] <tripkin> Thanks unborn!
3419 [20:22:31] <awal1> teraflops, icewm
3420 [20:22:33] <greycat> Use #!/bin/sh if you write using the
POSIX sh feature set FOR THIS ONE SCRIPT. Use #!/bin/bash if you
write with bash extensions FOR THIS ONE SCRIPT.
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3422 [20:22:47] <unborn> tripkin: for? :) we all know it..
3423 [20:22:51] * tripkin checks ban list... yup unborn is on it. WTF?
3424 [20:22:53] <greycat> Your WM is completely irrelevant to the
task of writing a script.
3425 [20:22:53] <teraflops> awal1: holy cow ^
3426 [20:22:55] <tripkin> LOL
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3430 [20:23:24] <unborn> you do as well - just did not read it ;)
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3432 [20:23:36] <magyar> unborn: at this point, I'm not as
concerned about security, I'm trying to figure out if what
I'm doing is possible at all, so in this case, the dmz in
192.168.xx.0/24 and the virt bridge is a new subnet of
192.168.zz.0/24, if I attach the virtual subnet of 192.168.zz.0/24
to eth0(lan), all virt hosts are connecting to the internet just
fine, but if I attach the virt bridge to eth1, no internet access
3433 [20:24:17] <teraflops> awal1: since you were saying startup I
was wondering if a systemd --user unit would be fine that's all
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3435 [20:24:51] <greycat> Boot scripts are traditionally written
using the SMALLEST possible feature set (sh syntax instead of bash
syntax) so that there are the fewest possible DEPENDENCIES to get
the script to work.
3436 [20:25:17] <unborn> magyar: im here - I am am always concern
about - fucking security - no matter how old you running - if you
running debian its not some lolobie or something so - dmz is your
problem - can you handle it or ?
3437 [20:25:41] <unborn> no security - dont come here.. - sorry
chap
3438 [20:26:34] <tripkin> magyar, do the virt machines have the
gateway address when they are connected to the second nic?
3439 [20:26:46] <awal1> greycat, teraflops, Flippylosaurus, thats
ok. I'll use bash. later I learn about posix, bash, sh and so.
I have a vague idea about all of them but i'm no so a
"technical user.... Thanks anyway
3440 [20:26:50] <tripkin> I am hoping that your dmz is inside the
network.
3441 [20:27:04] <tripkin> And is still protected by a firewall at
the present time.
3442 [20:27:34] <teraflops> awal1: how are you planning to start
the scripts?
3443 [20:27:59] <greycat> What is the script supposed to *do*?
That's the most important question.
3444 [20:28:10] <magyar> tripkin: sure, they always point to the
192.168.zz.1, but I think when the traffic hits the host, the host
pushes out the packets on eth0, maybe
3445 [20:28:10] <dannysantos> can someone help me? I want my
debian to execute a script when the lid is closed. How can I do
that? when the lid is closed my debian does nothing (ignore) right
now
3446 [20:28:17] <tripkin> magyar, nobody wants to see your systems
hacked. As long as you are safe, the first nic knows about the
gateway, but the second nic specifically does not (if I read you
correctly)
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3450 [20:29:02] <magyar> tripkin: this is a test setup only
3451 [20:29:06] <tripkin> magyar, I am a bit out of my depth at
this point as all my systems except the firewall have one nic.
3452 [20:29:19] <Flippylosaurus> awal1: good luck. if you have any
questions feel free to ask them
3453 [20:29:30] <magyar> tripkin: no worries, thanks
3454 [20:29:35] <tripkin> magyar, ok. That makes sense. What is
the purpose of the second nic? It was there and you wanted to use
it?
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3456 [20:30:01] <teraflops> awal1: idk about icewm last time I
tried was like 9 yeas ago via cygwin in old windows servers :S. so
Idk if it has some autostart thingy, if not you better rely on
.xinitrc if startx or whatever file your current DM is sourcing
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3459 [20:30:42] <emankcin> hmm, before disabling ssh access
through root I probably should have had some other user with a login
3460 [20:30:45] <magyar> tripkin: sure, i thought why attach the
virtual network to the lan if I can use a separate network, but so
far my plan is not a working :(
3461 [20:30:59] <Epakai> dannysantos: the best i can see is to
modify /etc/systemd/logind.conf to have an action for lidswitch (but
this is not good if don't want any of those things to happen),
then make a systemd rule that depends on that target
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3463 [20:31:50] <tripkin> magyar, that is the kind of thing that I
would have done in the past. All it ever did was confuse me and
cause untold problems. I would suggest using the one nic only and
use the second in a firewall system running the appropriate
package(s).
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3465 [20:32:02] <Epakai> look at 'man logind.conf' under
HandleLidSwitch for potential actions
3466 [20:32:20] <dannysantos> Epakai: What do you mean it is no
good if you want any of those things to happen?
3467 [20:32:29] <teraflops> ok I hate when people do not close
their irc clients properly :P
3468 [20:32:30] <magyar> tripkin: makes sense, thanks for your
time!
3469 [20:32:34] <tripkin> magyar, another good use for the second
nic is if you have a san or something that does not need a gateway.
3470 [20:32:36] <unborn> tripkin: magyar just runs one machine via
dmz and rest is just unsecured dummy srvs = same like my home srv
without security - this means he is one of us - likely not to be as
no apps specified - or he is employed out there to do the task -
means he is paid for it so - you do see my point?
3471 [20:33:01] <tripkin> Sure do, unborn .
3472 [20:33:18] <Epakai> HandleLidSwitch is limited to
"ignore", "poweroff", "reboot",
"halt", "kexec", "suspend",
"hibernate", "hybrid-sleep", and
"lock"
3473 [20:33:37] <unborn> magyar: can you elaborate with your issue
here? what exactly is not working for you?
3474 [20:33:43] <unborn> ip and logs?
3475 [20:34:43] <unborn> tripkin: those are my mine issues here -
user - genuine user or some fucker who just try all day long
here.... so let him to tell us
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3478 [20:35:16] <tripkin> Thanks!
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3480 [20:35:22] <magyar> unborn: i think I'm barking up the
wrong tree, I think what i'm trying to do is a bit over my
head, although it seemed at first simple enough :)
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3486 [20:36:42] <teraflops> Epakai: use acpid
3487 [20:36:42] <unborn> magyar: sure - is that for you or is it
for company??? another thing is domains.. I know you can do single
one - but your srvs you try to trouble shoot ?
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3493 [20:38:02] <teraflops> Epakai: oh I guess my message is for
dannysantos
3494 [20:38:06] <magyar> unborn: i was using the vmm to mess
around with kvm/libvirt and the gui allows you to configure a virbr
with a separate subnet and asks you where do you want to attach in,
so if I attach it to eth0, it works good, if I attach it to eth1
then no cigar
3495 [20:38:07] <Epakai> teraflops: that's what dannysantos
attempted from the ubuntu article but failed, do you know more about
it?
replaced-url
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3498 [20:38:14] <teraflops> dannysantos: use acpi
3499 [20:38:17] <teraflops> :P
3500 [20:38:21] <dannysantos> teraflops: How can I make it through
acpid? which files should I modify? thank Epakai
3501 [20:38:31] <magyar> unborn: here at home, exploring
kvm/libvirt
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3503 [20:39:45] <unborn> magyar: you see - use for your profit as
much as you can but - this is beauty of open source - pay the thing
as you do use kvm and other closed source software - see it right
there?
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3505 [20:40:11] <dannysantos> teraflops: exactly i tried that how
to but it didint work. May this be related to my
/etc/systemd/logind.conf being set with HandleLidSwitch=ignore ??
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3508 [20:40:48] <magyar> unborn: fair enough, thanks
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3511 [20:41:12] <unborn> magyar: i cannot help you - i use debian
only and if you do too - there is somehow - you need help with
closed source stuff - sure - there is an pay pal thingy for debian..
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3513 [20:42:29] <unborn> magyar: im hoping that anyone else would
realise this - you using debian (asss) for closed thing - you can
support us..
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3516 [20:43:09] <dannysantos> Epakai: my /etc/systemd/logind.conf
is set with HandleLidSwitch=ignore. Is it because of this that acpi
way doesn't work ??
3517 [20:43:25] <unborn> :) grim face to madar magyar - sorry to
be like this but if business does tell you its open sourced and no
git hub - fuck it badly
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3522 [20:44:46] <teraflops> dannysantos: never tried it myself,
try to set to other values I suppose, what I'm sure is that you
need to restart logind if you edit logind.conf
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3531 [20:46:30] <dannysantos> teraflops: if I set logind.conf
HandleLidSwitch to other value it will suspend or hibernate or
poweroff when the lid is closed. Am I right? I dont want that...
3532 [20:46:44] <unborn> magyar: your company is not open source
so - all for profit you are asking is just fucking deaf here - I
hope so.
3533 [20:47:08] <TomTomTo1> unborn: what are you talking about?
and how does any of this relate to what magyar asked?
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3539 [20:48:56] <unborn> TomTomTo1: are you looking to ban me here
or something ?? are you fucking blind ? cannot you read the nick -
in irssi ? - you are joke to me - what on earth you asking here?
3540 [20:49:24] <unborn> TomTomTo1: you should not have small o at
all.. you luckly you have it
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3545 [20:49:44] <unborn> mute me
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3548 [20:50:07] <teraflops> dannysantos: sorry as I said I dont do
such things but it looks like you want acpi
3549 [20:50:43] <dannysantos> teraflops: thanks
3550 [20:53:23] <Epakai> dannysantos: i did the acpi way from that
ubuntu guide, all i did was create the /etc/acpi/events/lm_lid file,
make it's action /etc/acpi/lid.sh, then created that script and
made it executable
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3554 [20:54:22] <Epakai> there's a lot more to that guide
since it then runs a script in a user's home directory
3555 [20:54:30] <dannysantos> Epakai: it worked? which script must
be executable?
3556 [20:54:46] <Epakai> /etc/acpi/lid.sh
3557 [20:55:36] <dannysantos> ok, it isn't in mine
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3560 [20:56:09] <dannysantos> Epakai: is it ok if lid.sh is root?
should I do a chmod 700?
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3567 [20:59:02] <Epakai> the default permissions should be fine,
up to you if you want to limit access more
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3571 [21:00:30] <dannysantos> Epakai: ok, i'll do a chmod +x
to be sure. Thanks I have to try if it did work on monday. I'm
not with the physical machine
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3596 [21:12:26] <kminooie> hello everyone, I am wondering if there
is any way, when upgrading, to get a detail list of what extra
packages are needed by which existing package for all the packages
that are being held back? without having to try apt-get install them
one by one.
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3618 [21:29:13] <jhutchins> The problem is that hardware makers
are inconsistent on how they process lid closure and what uses the
info about it. Sometimes the BIOS will intercept the signal, so the
OS can't tell it's closed.
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3624 [21:33:47] <nodiscc_fnode> hi, i have placed a custom
preferences file at /etc/firefox/firefox.js, but it is not used as
template when creating a new firefox profile, please help
3625 [21:33:49] <nodiscc_fnode> firefox 47.0.1-1~bpo80+1
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3632 [21:40:31] <towo`> nodiscc_fnode, who is saying, it should
work?
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3635 [21:41:47] <nodiscc_fnode> towo`: this was the original file
/etc/firefox/firefox.js from the debian package
replaced-url
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3651 [21:49:20] <nodiscc_fnode> the settings in my custom
firefox.js are not take into account
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3657 [21:52:35] <meeposhow> What's difference of apt-get and
aptitude?
3658 [21:52:36] <fiveflowerzz> Hi!
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3661 [21:52:50] <fiveflowerzz> How is it possible with
"top" to list the 10 more CPU hungry devices since boot?
3662 [21:52:57] <fiveflowerzz> ie not instantaneous CPU usage
3663 [21:53:00] <greycat> aptitude has a lot more features and is
really weird and LISPy
3664 [21:53:03] <fiveflowerzz> but average CPU usage since boot
3665 [21:53:16] <TomTomTo1> meeposhow: /msg dpkg why aptitude
3666 [21:53:22] <greycat> apt-get is much easier to understand and
use on a daily basis if you are a plain no-frilly guy like me
3667 [21:53:55] <greycat> top doesn't list
"devices"
3668 [21:54:07] <meeposhow> thanks :)
3669 [21:54:17] <greycat> If you want aggregates, look at vmstat
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3671 [21:54:45] <TomTomTo1> meeposhow: also /msg dpkg why not
aptitude
3672 [21:55:28] <meeposhow> TomTomTo1: awesome
3673 [21:55:37] <meeposhow> so people are miving away from it
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3675 [21:55:41] <meeposhow> moving*
3676 [21:55:50] <TomTomTo1> not that i know of.
3677 [21:55:54] <r6ku> aptitude lets you browse through package
dependencies easily which is neat, can you do the same with apt-get?
3678 [21:56:25] <meeposhow> but it said "most of
<aptitude>'s former exclusive features are now available
in <apt-get> as well."
3679 [21:56:25] <TomTomTo1> apt-cache show <pkg> shows you
all the info you need about a package.
3680 [21:56:28] <fiveflowerzz> any idea?
3681 [21:56:44] <meeposhow> so it is like the same over time ?
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3709 [22:05:19] <awal1_> fiveflowerzz, sysstat and it's
utilities is useful
3710 [22:06:11] <fiveflowerzz> awal1_:
replaced-url
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3715 [22:09:12] <awal1_> fiveflowerzz, well, you can use watch +
pidstat
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3721 [22:10:14] <awal1_> create a script or use
xinit/xsession/startup file of your WM/DE
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3725 [22:11:49] <awal1_> that will check processes. physical
devices I dont know
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3729 [22:13:55] <r1v3n> made an espeak script, if I run it from
terminal it works, but when I cron it, it fails: script .c: Error
opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy"
3730 [22:14:46] <r1v3n> */10 * * * * /home/xp/xvoice/saytime.sh
3731 [22:15:06] <r1v3n> in saytime,sh: date +%I:%M%p | espeak
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3733 [22:15:34] <awal1_> fiveflowerzz, you can create a conky bar
then use {execi 5 watch -c -p-n 5 -d pidstat} Thats what I use
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3735 [22:15:45] <greycat> "device or resource busy"
sounds like you can't open it because your X session (DE?)
already has it opened. Maybe by pulseaudio or something.
3736 [22:16:20] <awal1_> {execi 5 watch -c -p -n 5 -d pidstat} ^
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3739 [22:16:36] <r1v3n> yes, rhythmox is playing. how come it
works when I run it manually form terminal, as same user
3740 [22:16:56] <greycat> Maybe because of some pulseaudio env
vars or something, I dunno.
3741 [22:17:00] <r1v3n> if I run ./saytime.sh in terminal, with
rythbox playing, it still works
3742 [22:17:11] <r1v3n> somehow when cron calls it, sometihng is
changed
3743 [22:17:21] <greycat> Usually the lack of environment vars.
3744 [22:17:37] <r1v3n> 'ohm, good idea
3745 [22:17:40] <r1v3n> gona look
3746 [22:17:41] <r1v3n> thanks
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3752 [22:21:58] <ewew> Hi. Does someone have experience with this
howto
replaced-url
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3762 [22:29:38] <jhutchins> ewew: Yes, someone does.
3763 [22:29:47] <jhutchins> ewew: Did you have a question about
it?
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3766 [22:30:15] <ewew> how to pass this options to
dpkg-buildpackage ?
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3773 [22:33:33] <jhutchins> Have you built packages with
dpkg-buildpackage before?
3774 [22:33:37] <jhutchins> !build
3775 [22:33:52] <greycat> !source
3776 [22:33:52] <dpkg> As an overview: to work with Debian source
packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a
location with free space; download the source package with
<apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use
<dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details,
also ask me about <package recompile> <backport>
<nmg> <policy> <source package>
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3864 [23:14:45] <alu> how does one undo a command like this ? tc
qdisc add dev eth0 root netem delay 300ms rate 56kbit
3865 [23:15:04] <alu> curious
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3871 [23:17:10] <disi> does GNOME 3 lock up like every other day
for anyone else?
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3883 [23:21:23] <Guest43750> Hello, I just installed Debian 8.5 on
my Acer laptop. I am having issues connecting to wifi.
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3885 [23:22:48] <Putti> Guest43750, what are the issues?
3886 [23:22:58] <Guest43750> I can't connect to wifi.
3887 [23:23:38] <Putti> Guest43750, if you run dmesg in the
terminal does it give any errors about wifi?
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3889 [23:24:50] <Guest43750> The output takes up the screen.
3890 [23:25:17] <emankcin> Guest43750: Can you pastebin the
output?
3891 [23:25:37] <Guest43750> Wait, just found an ethernet port.
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3893 [23:25:52] <Guest43750> I think I can manage this. Thanks
anyways!
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3897 [23:26:09] <emankcin> Guest43750: You can use dmesg|grep
<string> to search.
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3908 [23:33:06] <belowzero> hi guys, trying to boot a vm after
installing. (first boot) seems like grub-install didnt go quite as
expected. I fired up super grub2 and when choosing kernel there to
boot, I get a message like this: "invalid magic number; you
have to load kernel first" what should I do? :)
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3913 [23:34:21] <sprung> Hi folks, I know that I can obtain the
current NIC speed via /sys/class/net/eth0/speed, is there a way
(without using miitool or ethtool) that i can get the maximum
available speed for a NIC device?
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3915 [23:36:14] <jelly> I assume "look at what API the source
code for ethtool uses" would not be a useful answer?
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3919 [23:37:49] <sprung> lol that's actually exactly what i
am doing right now @jelly
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3922 [23:38:12] <sprung> looks like that's a poor solution
because it's making low level driver calls of some sort
3923 [23:38:31] <sprung> maybe what i'm looking for
isn't available as a sysctl
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3925 [23:38:49] <jelly> netlink thingsies afair (previously might
have been ioctl thingies)
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3928 [23:39:55] <sprung> jelly: i'm just trying to eliminate
the toil of opening another process and scraping the stdout of the
execution is all
3929 [23:40:13] <sprung> but if that's the only way, then ok
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3956 [23:56:27] <Time-Warp1> anyones debian start getting lines on
there screen and you have to do a hard reboot after the new
dist-upgrade
3957 [23:56:31] <Time-Warp1> lol
3958 [23:56:40] <johnkeates> not me
3959 [23:56:42] <johnkeates> sounds like a GPU issue
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3961 [23:57:09] <Time-Warp1> could be could be
3962 [23:57:11] <emankcin> Time-Warp1: I would guess driver
3963 [23:57:12] <Time-Warp1> lol
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3970 [23:59:37] <jelly> getting... lines?
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