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45 [00:40:02] <jcarpenter2>
replaced-url
46 [00:40:17] <jcarpenter2> there's lib32z1, lib64z1,
libn32z1, and zlib1g...
47 [00:40:28] <jcarpenter2> what is signified by the
"n", and by the "1g"?
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49 [00:42:36] <Thedarkb> How do I force PAE?
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53 [00:45:54] <Thedarkb> nevermind, no need.
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73 [01:11:48] <Thedarkb> Fuck
74 [01:12:04] <Thedarkb> I installed the wrong desktop
environment
75 [01:12:09] <Thedarkb> and I can't go back
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77 [01:12:43] <Thedarkb> Can I
78 [01:13:06] <Thedarkb> Fuck it, I'll just restart the
installation
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102 [01:35:10] <edju> Jessie here. Whenever I run KMail 4.14.1
the console fills with Akonadi stuff - some pasted at
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111 [01:38:10] <Thedarkb> 44 min remaining on a network install.
112 [01:38:17] <Thedarkb> I hope this goes well.
113 [01:38:38] <dvs> oh noes!
114 [01:38:53] <Thedarkb> dvs, What?
115 [01:39:14] <dvs> Why wouldnt things go well?
116 [01:40:14] <jcarpenter2> it's debian, it always goes
well knock on wood
117 [01:40:37] <jcarpenter2> but no really, debian is by far the
most stable distro i've used, gentoo was just a disaster
118 [01:41:24] <rabbitear_sdf> I should put debian on my router
119 [01:41:45] <Thedarkb> I plan on leaving Debian on this
thinkpad until it kicks it.
120 [01:41:59] <Thedarkb> It's 14 years old, how long do
ThinkPads usually live for :)
121 [01:42:08] <rabbitear_sdf> I actually have fedora on this
thinkpad x230
122 [01:42:17] <rabbitear_sdf> <3 thinkpads
123 [01:42:54] <rabbitear_sdf> a couple times I thought about
watching back to -a- debian, but I'm gonna stick it out
124 [01:43:15] <rabbitear_sdf> forced learning
125 [01:43:27] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: what thinkpad do you
have?
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127 [01:43:46] <Thedarkb> I have, oldest first, an X40, a T41p
and an X200
128 [01:44:01] <Thedarkb> The X40 is the one currently getting
Debian installed.
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130 [01:44:13] <Thedarkb> It's my beater craptop for general
use.
131 [01:44:17] <Thedarkb> My X200 is my daily.
132 [01:44:25] <Thedarkb> My T41p sits in the corner and compiles
things.
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134 [01:44:35] <Thedarkb> It's unclean
135 [01:44:42] <Thedarkb> It has a GPU not supported under Linux.
136 [01:45:08] <rabbitear_sdf> I also have an x60, but it
doesn't current have a drive in it.. and before, I had the old
old PII ... I can't even remember the model name, but it was my
first thinkpad and really loved it, small and awesome
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139 [01:45:33] <Thedarkb> The X60 is very similar to the X40
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141 [01:45:41] <Thedarkb> Some bits are interchangeable.
142 [01:45:42] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: I mainly like the
trackpoint (and the keyboards)
143 [01:45:54] <Thedarkb> The LCD panels are.
144 [01:46:12] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: great machine, but the
LCD is no so bright, maybe I need to change the bulb or something
145 [01:46:27] <Thedarkb> rabbitear_sdf, There's an LED
conversion kit out there.
146 [01:46:35] <Thedarkb> If you don't want to go back to
CCFL
147 [01:46:36] <rabbitear_sdf> nice!
148 [01:46:47] <rabbitear_sdf> very much food for thought there
149 [01:47:07] <Thedarkb> There's even a version which is
visible in direct sunlight.
150 [01:47:19] <rabbitear_sdf> I also prefer the 4:3 ratio over
the 10:6 lol, or whatever this is
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152 [01:47:34] <rabbitear_sdf> Very nice Thedarkb
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154 [01:47:49] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: is it pricey ?
155 [01:47:50] <Thedarkb> Also, you can buy an upgrade
motherboard that gives you a Kaby Lake i7
156 [01:47:56] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: under $100 ?
157 [01:48:03] <Tom_-> notebookreview.com says the T400 display
was visible in direct sunlight
158 [01:48:03] <Thedarkb> The LED kit is.
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160 [01:48:22] <Thedarkb> The aftermarket motherboard is $700 for
an i7 and $400 for an i5
161 [01:48:40] <Thedarkb> rabbitear_sdf,
replaced-url
162 [01:48:42] <rabbitear_sdf> well, I dont mind the speed of the
machine ...
163 [01:49:05] <rabbitear_sdf> but the low brightness is really
why I am not using it
164 [01:49:10] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: thanks
165 [01:49:27] <Thedarkb> I have a spare tube that I know works
if you want that either.
166 [01:49:43] <Thedarkb> I'm going to convert my X40 to LED
when I get the new panel for it.
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168 [01:50:27] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: how come you don't
start a thinkpad-hacking forum ? (might be a loaded question)
169 [01:50:51] <Thedarkb> I think that's already covered.
170 [01:50:56] <rabbitear_sdf> Thedarkb: yeah, in the future,
might actually have to look into this ...
171 [01:51:12] <awal1> how can I "force" somehow html5
video content video to occupy only the current size of my web
browser when putted in full screen mode? I have seen that in some
websiteI no remember actually
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173 [01:51:37] <awal1> not occupy the whole screen
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175 [01:52:02] <rabbitear_sdf> awal1: I'd view the source,
and try to see how they do it
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177 [01:52:25] <awal1> rabbitear_sdf, if I find the website :P
178 [01:52:45] <rabbitear_sdf> awal1: also the developer console
is very very helpful
179 [01:53:13] <rabbitear_sdf> on chrome and firefox
180 [01:53:22] <uxfi> Hello to all
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182 [01:55:16] <rabbitear_sdf> greetings
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924 [02:31:54] <enseneo> Hi everyone. I'm having an
installation problem: using the netinst CD, when I select
"Graphical Install" or regular "Install", my new
system reads from the CD a while and then just gives up (blank
screen).
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928 [02:32:58] <dvs> enseneo, is this from a USB?
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931 [02:33:59] <Tom_-> enseneo, are you sure the full ISO image
of the netinst CD was written to CD?
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933 [02:34:09] <Tom_-> have you checked the download signature?
934 [02:34:11] <Tom_-> dpkg, signatures
935 [02:34:12] <dpkg> well, signatures is #del#
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938 [02:34:19] <Tom_-> dpkg, sig
939 [02:34:19] <dpkg> rumour has it, sig is a Special Interest
Group, or a meeting of like-minded individuals, with the intention
of drinking lots. 1337sp33k for signature
940 [02:34:20] <enseneo> Doesn't matter whether I use USB or
a CD
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944 [02:34:50] <enseneo> Yes, I'm using the full netinst
ISO. (verified checksums)
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947 [02:35:33] <mcm_> i'm getting this error: 'Package
python-gpgme is not available, but is referred to by another
package'. How can see which package is referencing it?
948 [02:35:35] <Tom_-> maybe it's a video incompatibility
error, you can try fb=false
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950 [02:36:18] <enseneo> I have not checked signatures, but
I've downloaded and checked the md5sums and burned the images
on two different machines; my image is not corrupt; using both USB
and CD, after selecting either "Graphical install" or
regular "Install", I get a blank screen.
951 [02:36:19] <annadane> mcm_, aptitude
952 [02:36:28] <annadane> (i think)
953 [02:36:56] <dvs> enseneo, UEFI install?
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955 [02:37:06] <mcm_> i would have guessed there is an apt-cache
or so command....
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957 [02:37:29] <enseneo> dvs, yes, UEFI is there
958 [02:37:59] <dvs> enseneo, If you selected a UEFI install then
Secure Boot needs to be turned off.
959 [02:38:11] <r3> mcm_: you can try 'apt-cache search
python-gpgme' ?
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961 [02:38:35] <r3> and be sure to 'apt-get update'
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975 [02:39:15] <enseneo> dvs, not sure that I ever
"selected" UEFI install: it's simply called
"Debian GNU/Linux Uefi Installer"; Ok, I will look into
turning off Secure Boot; I guess I just need to go into the UEFI
shell and type something (at least I hope so)
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978 [02:39:46] <dvs> enseneo, disable it in the "BIOS"
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990 [02:42:21] <mcm_> r3, thanks. exactly, `apt-cache` returns
zero result. however when i do `apt install python-gpgme` then it
returns the error 'Package python-gpgme is not available, but
is referred to by another package'. btw this is on ubuntu.
991 [02:42:42] <mcm_> r3, therefore i wanted to find out which
package refers to this one.
992 [02:42:45] <enseneo> dvs, looks like I can disable UEFI;
I'll try "Legacy" mode
993 [02:42:57] <dvs> ok
994 [02:43:52] <mcm_> r3, also `apt-cache depends <pkg>`
and `apt-cache rdepends <pkg>` doesn't deliver any
valuable information.
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997 [02:44:04] <enseneo> dvs, it turns out secure boot was
*already* disabled
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999 [02:44:35] <awal1> dpkg: preventa
1000 [02:44:35] <dpkg> awal1: I give up, what is it?
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1003 [02:45:01] <annadane> mcm_, ubuntu is not debian
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1005 [02:45:04] <awal1> dpkg: minix3
1006 [02:45:04] <dpkg> awal1: I wish you would RTFM.
1007 [02:45:07] <annadane> !tell mcm_ about based on debian
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1013 [02:47:48] <mcm_> annadane, i'm very well aware. i just
wanted help on apt-* commands not a ubuntu specific question.
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1015 [02:49:35] <enseneo> dvs, changing from uefi to
"legacy" made the situation worse: I cannot boot into the
installer at all, now (i.e., not even the first screen); I'm
going back to UEFI + secure boot turned off
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1021 [02:50:08] <annadane> mcm_, i may have misunderstood you
then; my apologies
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1036 [02:58:54] <Scriptonaut> hey guys, I'm having some
trouble loading fonts. I am using lemonbar, and I have Terminus and
FontAwesome fonts, I also refreshed the font cache with fc-cache -fv
or w/e the command is. Here is the error I get from lemonbar:
replaced-url
1037 [02:59:04] <Scriptonaut> and here are the scripts giving the
errors:
replaced-url
1038 [02:59:25] <Scriptonaut> the error is from the last line of
the script
1039 [02:59:41] <Scriptonaut> this worked fine on my gentoo
machine, and on my debian squeeze machine (same hdd actually)
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1041 [03:00:46] <Scriptonaut> I got both terminus and fontawesome
from apt by the way. Here is the output of: fc-list | grep -i
"terminus\|awesome":
replaced-url
1042 [03:01:13] <Scriptonaut> so I have the fonts, but it
doesn't want to load them
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1049 [03:02:55] <r3> mcm_: I wonder if your /etc/apt/sources.list
is screwy?
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1053 [03:03:41] <mcm_> annadane, no worries :-)
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1059 [03:05:20] <r3> mcm_: if you can, maybe try 'aptitude
search "?provides(python-gpgme)"'
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1066 [03:07:00] <r3> mcm_: and then maybe if you find what is
referencing it you can try removing that package and then do apt-get
update and reinstalling it?
1067 [03:07:59] <mcm_> r3, aptitude didn't return any results
either...
1068 [03:08:13] <mcm_> thank you for the hints...
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1070 [03:08:41] <mcm_> btw, where does apt store the package
lists? it should be somewhere in /var
1071 [03:09:21] <r3> perhaps in /var/lib/apt/lists/
1072 [03:10:06] <mcm_> thanks, a grep in that folder revealed more
info :-)
1073 [03:10:07] <r3> or /var/cache/apt/
1074 [03:10:36] <r3> sure thing, mcm_, hope I was able to help
some, gotta run - sorry - cheers!
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1078 [03:11:19] <mcm_> cheers
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1098 [03:20:53] <anonit> Hello can someone please help me. My
Debian jessie system is currently booted up, however sometime within
the last hour (I was afk) it has now mounted the rootfs as read only
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1100 [03:21:06] <anonit> Dmesg crashes the terminal. ls -l shows
/tmp is 777
1101 [03:21:46] <anonit> Actually thought I was in #linux going to
post there as there are probably more people, sorry about that
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1232 [03:31:48] <srruby> [Offtopic] Does anyone like the
ChromeBooks for use as software development and everyday use?
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1238 [03:32:19] <annadane> perhaps a topic better suited to
#debian-offtopic
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1260 [03:34:52] <Thedarkb-X40> Right, I can't get wifi
working.
1261 [03:34:57] <Thedarkb-X40> I have the driver.
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1263 [03:35:23] <dvs> Thedarkb-X40, But do you have the firmware?
1264 [03:35:24] <Thedarkb-X40> I'd like to get it working
ASAP
1265 [03:35:27] <Thedarkb-X40> dvs, Yes.
1266 [03:35:39] <Thedarkb-X40> Up to date
1267 [03:36:07] <dvs> What wireless card is it?
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1269 [03:36:37] <Thedarkb-X40> 02:02.0 Network controller: Intel
Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev
05)
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1271 [03:36:44] <Thedarkb-X40> iwconfig sees it.
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1273 [03:37:05] <dvs> Is firmware-iwlwifi loaded?
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1278 [03:37:36] <Thedarkb-X40> how do I check?
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1283 [03:37:43] <Thedarkb-X40> sysctl something
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1286 [03:37:50] <dvs> dpkg -l firmware-iwlwifi
1287 [03:37:50] <dpkg> ii firmware-iwlwifi 1.3-5 dvs's
private warez collection
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1291 [03:38:12] <dvs> doh!
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1293 [03:38:25] <Thedarkb-X40> Installing the package now.
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1295 [03:39:35] <awal1> who is called when people calls pciidin
channel?
1296 [03:40:07] <Thedarkb-X40> Restart?
1297 [03:40:12] <Thedarkb-X40> After installing the firmware.
1298 [03:40:24] <awal1> btw, what is the exact way? and how to do
in private?
1299 [03:40:24] <dvs> yes
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1308 [03:43:00] <Thedarkb-X40> no luck
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1310 [03:43:09] <Thedarkb-X40> Huh
1311 [03:43:16] <Thedarkb-X40> Oh, my X200's battery probably
died.
1312 [03:43:20] <Thedarkb-X40> Left it unattended.
1313 [03:43:25] <Thedarkb-X40> dvs, Any other ideas?
1314 [03:43:32] <dvs> nope
1315 [03:43:56] <Thedarkb-X40> shit.
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1318 [03:45:02] <dvs> Oh uninstall that and install
firmware-ipw2x00 instead
1319 [03:45:12] <Thedarkb-X40> Oh yeah, I need libc6, can I safely
grab that from sid
1320 [03:45:17] <Thedarkb-X40> I already had that in the first
place.
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1323 [03:46:43] <Thedarkb-X40> dvs, Already at newest version.
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1333 [03:50:12] <Thedarkb-X40> Anyone have any ideas at all?
1334 [03:50:22] <Thedarkb-X40> I'm kind of desperate.
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1340 [03:54:24] <Thedarkb-X40> 1: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked:
yes Hard blocked: no
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1342 [03:54:27] <Thedarkb-X40> ???????????
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1344 [03:54:32] <Thedarkb-X40> What does that mean?
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1346 [03:55:51] <Thedarkb-X40> I unblocked it with RFkill and
still no luck
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1348 [03:57:02] <Thedarkb-X40> This laptop doesn't even have
a hardware switch.
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1353 [03:59:16] <dvs> Fn-F8?
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1365 [03:59:56] <Thedarkb-X40> dvs, Did nothing
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1367 [04:00:15] <Thedarkb-X40> There's no hard blocking on
this laptop
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1369 [04:00:32] <Thedarkb-X40> and soft blocking is disabled
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1374 [04:01:05] <Thedarkb-X40>
replaced-url
1375 [04:01:13] <Thedarkb-X40> This is the output of iwconfig
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1378 [04:01:49] <Thedarkb-X40> Anyone know anything about this?
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1382 [04:02:36] <Thedarkb-X40> is there some daemon that should be
running but isn't?
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1384 [04:02:56] <dvs> Thedarkb-X40, what does "iwlist wlp2s2
scan" say?
1385 [04:03:36] <Thedarkb-X40> found my router
1386 [04:03:57] <dvs> So the driver works. It's just a matter
of configuring your connection.
1387 [04:04:00] <Thedarkb-X40>
replaced-url
1388 [04:05:13] <Thedarkb-X40> What do you mean?
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1394 [04:07:10] <dvs> Thedarkb-X40,
replaced-url
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1396 [04:09:25] <Thedarkb-X40> dvs, I followed the instructions.
1397 [04:09:28] <Thedarkb-X40> Yeah, nothing.
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1399 [04:09:56] <Thedarkb-X40> I'll try the gnome network
manager
1400 [04:09:57] <dvs> Well, it's not a driver problem,
it's a configuration problem
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1408 [04:12:27] <Thedarkb-X40> Found the problem
1409 [04:12:31] <Thedarkb-X40> Wicd is just a piece of shit.
1410 [04:12:37] <Thedarkb-X40> That was the issue all along
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1413 [04:14:32] <dvs> To each their own. I use wpa-supplicant.
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1431 [04:22:37] <Thedarkb> dvs, I think I have it
1432 [04:22:46] <Thedarkb> I think the issue is that wicd is a
piece of shit.
1433 [04:23:13] <dvs> Some people swear by it.
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1436 [04:24:17] <Thedarkb> Well, GNOME network manager has
it's own issues with my WiFi card
1437 [04:24:24] <Thedarkb> but nothing that can't be
configged away.
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1445 [04:27:30] <Thedarkb> Nah, still won't work.
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1468 [04:50:57] <Scriptonaut> ok, so I dug through lemonbar's
sourcecode, it uses xcb_open_font_checked(connection, font_object,
strlen (font_name), font_name); to fetch the fonts. It's not
fetching them correctly, anyone know what type of string I should be
passing to xcb_open_font_checked()? I'm passing it
1469 [04:51:07] <Scriptonaut>
"Terminus:size=14:style=Bold" **
1470 [04:51:57] <Scriptonaut> this is where the font lives
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ter-u12b_unicode.pcf.gz:
Terminus:style=Bold
1471 [04:52:00] <Scriptonaut> that's fc-list output
1472 [04:52:16] <Scriptonaut> anything wrong with that syntax?
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1480 [04:56:48] <razer1> I just installed debian 9 stable, xorg,
and awesome window manager. I have no audio and I don't know
why.
1481 [04:57:00] <razer1> I installed alsa-utils and viewed all the
levels and they look good.
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1488 [04:59:33] <n4dir> razer1: which software do you use which
doesn't give sound ( i guess my point is: you sure it
isn't muted?).
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1497 [05:07:56] <aindilis> I have a question about routing
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1517 [05:31:52] <ian|m> debian 10 better be much better than
debian 9 or im quitting linux
1518 [05:32:06] <n4dir> !chat
1519 [05:32:06] <dpkg> This is not a chat channel, this is a
Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support
question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows
on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
1520 [05:32:12] <ian|m> sorry
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1522 [05:32:51] <n4dir> sounds a bit rougher than it was meant.
But as far i can see here are mainly users, not devs or such. So no
one will be able to help you.
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1524 [05:33:26] <n4dir> you might try #linux and ask for a Linux
distro which is according to your needs (or one of the BSD ones?).
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1527 [05:34:52] <n4dir> nothing wrong with quitting linux either,
i guess.
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1599 [06:43:06] <physkets> Hi!
1600 [06:43:30] <physkets> I'm planning to use Debian for the
first time, and would like some advice:
1601 [06:43:58] <physkets> The device I'm considering buying
is a mini-PC:
1602 [06:44:00] <physkets>
replaced-url
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1605 [06:44:57] <physkets> I want to use it as my home-router and
WiFi access-point (average 2 devices, maximum 4 connected at one
time)
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1607 [06:51:07] <physkets> and also as a server, possibly running
'matrix', some git repos, maybe 'Mastodon'....
1608 [06:51:34] <physkets> So my question is, does that miniPC
look okay for all that on Debian?
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1613 [06:58:48] <alkisg> physkets: yeah it looks fine
1614 [06:59:05] <alkisg> except for "WiFi is incompatible
with pfSense. If you need WiFi, pls use other OS of your
Choice"
1615 [06:59:12] <alkisg> I.e. it might not have a linux wifi
driver
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1617 [06:59:44] <alkisg> In that case you could buy a wifi dongle
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1619 [07:01:35] <nyaomi> i have a vga monitor and hdmi tv
connected to this machine, and when i boot while both are on
everything is fine, but if the tv shuts off, upon turning it back on
the monitor no longer gets any input, though the tv remains a
secondary display with no gnome shell ui stuff
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1625 [07:10:09] <physkets> alkisg: I wrote to them asking about
the WiFi card, and this is what they told me:
1626 [07:10:11] <physkets>
replaced-url
1627 [07:10:19] <physkets> It looks like it has a linux driver
1628 [07:11:32] <physkets>
replaced-url
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1631 [07:15:34] <physkets> It says "Probable Linux
driver"
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1637 [07:17:20] <alkisg> Yeah it supposedly "probably"
might work
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1639 [07:17:40] <physkets> What WiFi card has the best
"free" drivers, as well as "abilities" (to work
as an access-point)?
1640 [07:18:01] <physkets> (and supports atleast 802.11n)
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1645 [07:20:36] <alkisg>
replaced-url
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1661 [07:32:49] <physkets> Yes, but most of them are non-free, I
think... no?
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1685 [07:56:07] <physkets> Looking into possible free and capable
chipsets, the only one that satisfied this seems to be
"ath9k_htc":
1686 [07:56:12] <physkets>
replaced-url
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1688 [07:56:37] <physkets> ^This says that the firmware is free,
but Debian still categorizes it as 'non-free':
1689 [07:56:50] <physkets>
replaced-url
1690 [07:56:52] <physkets> Why?
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1701 [08:06:53] <physkets> Oh! It's just that it isn't
in 'stable' yet:
1702 [08:06:55] <physkets>
replaced-url
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1705 [08:12:05] <physkets> Hmmm... so if I get a card using this
chipset, I'll have to install 'testing' or
'unstable'
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1725 [08:32:26] <simbalion> What to do when pulse audio crashes,
pulseaudio --start returns daemon failed to start? Is there a way to
fix this without rebooting?
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1727 [08:34:02] <DonVlad> Hi, I want to loose my plebness and join
Debian (using Ubuntu right) now
1728 [08:34:15] <DonVlad> will Android studio work fine on Debian?
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1761 [08:57:32] <nkuttler> simbalion: try to get a more verbose
error
1762 [08:57:46] <simbalion> nkuttler: I tried -v and -vvv but I
couldn't get anything useful
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1764 [08:57:48] <Haohmaru> ? chroot
1765 [08:57:51] <nkuttler> DonVlad: that's just some java
app, isn't it? yeah, should work
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1768 [08:58:04] <simbalion> if I ran it as sudo it'd show
lots of info but not if I run it under my user account where it
crashed
1769 [08:58:24] <nkuttler> simbalion: anything in dmesg
/var/log/messages etc?
1770 [08:58:31] <Haohmaru> one of the bots here used to say
compact and useful instructions for changing your forgotten root
password
1771 [08:58:41] <nkuttler> dpkg: chroot
1772 [08:58:42] <dpkg> To chroot into your Debian system boot to
your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console
(Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2
/dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable
with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none
/target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then
chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
1773 [08:58:52] <nkuttler> ~i forgot root's password
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1775 [08:59:03] <nkuttler> !i forgot root's password
1776 [08:59:03] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit
the kernel setting in the grub command line (add
'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your
root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4)
'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6)
'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1)
'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift
while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux
init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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1779 [08:59:27] <Haohmaru> ah, that second one, thanks
1780 [08:59:50] <simbalion> nkuttler: something about failing to
load a cookie file, I think I saw that while searching for a
solution earlier..
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1782 [09:00:06] <nkuttler> simbalion: please be specific
1783 [09:00:53] <simbalion> nkuttler:
/home/user/.config/pulse/cookie, no such file. I had tried moving my
pulse to pulse.old and letting it re-create
1784 [09:01:41] <simbalion> woah now -vvv shows lots, if i use it
under tmux
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1793 [09:05:41] <simbalion> hrm only error i see is something
about no space left on device but none of my disks are full. im
stumped.
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1797 [09:06:59] <alkisg> Try df -h
1798 [09:07:16] <simbalion> oh and something about inotify
watches, im wondering if there's some stale app running
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1829 [09:23:28] <shtrb> My e1000e had stopped fetching ips (ip
link state is up, the led is on , cable plugged in , works on
windows) but under debian it misbehave static ip or dchp both fail
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1838 [09:25:03] <shtrb> "Intel Corporation Ethernet
Connection I217-LM (rev 04)" if anything
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1859 [09:38:31] <shtrb> I remember that there was an issue in
jessy with that same card
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1903 [10:04:09] <thms> I cancelled "aptitude install
phpmyadmin" (ctrl + c). I tried "aptitude remove
phpmyadmin", but still, when I run aptitude install, it wants
to install phpmyadmin. How can I tell aptitude to give up ?
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1909 [10:06:13] <at0m> thms: i suggest "aptitude -f
install" to fix current installation, then remove it
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1917 [10:08:18] <rabbitear_sdf> thms: you have to social engineer
it
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1921 [10:09:31] <at0m> ..
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1938 [10:18:56] <thms> thanks at0m
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1993 [10:44:29] <marmistrz> Hi! I have a problem installing debian
via netinst
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1997 [10:44:50] <marmistrz> I don't have CDs anywhere near so
I used a second IDE drive for booting the netinst image
1998 [10:45:02] <marmistrz> (i.e. I booted Debian from an IDE
drive)
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2000 [10:45:22] <marmistrz> now the Debian installer complains it
can't find a needed CD
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2007 [10:49:38] <marmistrz> Ok, I realized it just wants me to
tell it where the installation media is :P
2008 [10:49:42] <marmistrz> that could've been clearer
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2039 [11:17:33] <Haohmaru> i see a "shortcut" (symbolic
link or whatever) to a folder, which happens to be another such
shortcut to another folder.. aaah the madness, is there a way to
find the actual final path?
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2126 [12:11:56] <barryhoppins> in the line See apt(8) for more
information about the available commands. what does (8) refer to?
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2129 [12:13:22] <jelly> barryhoppins: man pages are arranged in
sections, section 8 is for administrative tools. man man
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2187 [12:46:51] <marmistrz> Hi! I haven't selected any DE
because I want to install LXQt (the computer is really old)
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2189 [12:47:01] <marmistrz> To my surprise, GNOME was installed.
2190 [12:47:12] <Sir_Designer> and it works?
2191 [12:47:32] <marmistrz> Will `apt purge task-gnome-desktop` be
enough to remove it?
2192 [12:48:00] <marmistrz> Sir_Designer: the installation has not
finished yet, but it has 600MB RAM, so it will not :P
2193 [12:48:15] <marmistrz> *the computer has 600MB RAM
2194 [12:48:28] <Sir_Designer> i remember running debian on ppc
iin 512
2195 [12:48:47] <marmistrz> Sir_Designer: I guess not under GNOME
:P
2196 [12:49:52] <Sir_Designer> xfce should run and support your
hardware. geuessing your choice was overruled for no video support
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2200 [12:51:02] <Sir_Designer> Panie marmistrz, proszę nie
udziwniać.
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2209 [12:54:50] <marmistrz> Sir_Designer: I suspect it's due
to the fact that GNome is the default
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2211 [12:55:01] <marmistrz> I know that there are lighter DEs
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2213 [12:55:13] <marmistrz> I just want to be sure how to
uninstall GNOME
2214 [12:55:34] <marmistrz> I really don't want to repeat the
whole installation process :))
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2273 [13:20:33] <Wolf20180323> hi all. I've two different
wirelesa adapters. I'm using aircrack-ng and reaver to test my
wps. The external interface is in monitor mode and is beimg used. In
order to use aircrack-mg some thongs, like network-manager services
and O think wpa_supplicant must be disabled (airmon-ng check kill).
As the internal network manager is not used at all, I'd like to
connect to Wi-Fi using that and performing penetration testing on
the extwrnal at rhe same time. Ca
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2285 [13:29:00] <prout_> hi there
2286 [13:29:12] <prout_> netstat -ntu doesn't show any
interface
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2289 [13:30:01] <prout_> I'm on kali linux VM (virtualbox),
host = arch linux, tried with NAT and bridged connection, I have
internet connection on the VM
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2292 [13:30:48] <BCMM> prout_: which one, out of Kali and Arch, do
you think is Debian?
2293 [13:31:12] <Wolf20180323> I'd go and ask those dumb kali
folks prout_
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2295 [13:31:51] <Wolf20180323> Chunkz by any chance do you have
experience with networking and connecting through terminal?
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2298 [13:32:13] <Wolf20180323> BCMM I meant
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2301 [13:33:32] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: yes, but i don't really
use wifi much
2302 [13:33:34] <Wolf20180323> BTW, I'm on Debian Stretch, if
that matters
2303 [13:33:55] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: nor did i entirely understand
"As the internal network manager is not used at all"
2304 [13:34:19] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: is there any chance that
you've accidentally used "network controller" and
"network manager" interchangeably?
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2310 [13:36:25] <Wolf20180323> no BCMM is just the penetration
hacking stuff who kills network-manager, and I beleive
wpa_supplicant as well. Also, I do the attacks with wlan1 (wifi
dongle), wlan0 is nit connect to anything or being "used"
by any commands. I can understand the advantages of ethernet...
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2313 [13:37:11] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: right, so you have a wlan0
and a wlan1, and you'd like to use one of those to connect to
your router for a perfectly ordinary internet connection, and keep
the other one free for aircrack and so on?
2314 [13:37:27] <Wolf20180323> BCMM yes exactly!
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2316 [13:37:45] <Wolf20180323> BCMM I tried wpa_cli no success
2317 [13:38:00] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: if you want to carry on using
NetworkManager for your "normal" interface, you could have
a look at the unmanaged-devices option for N<
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2319 [13:38:11] <BCMM> ^NM
2320 [13:38:29] <BCMM> you can run NM as normal, but tell it to
ignore a specific network device
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2323 [13:38:53] <Wolf20180323> BCMM could you teach me how?
2324 [13:39:03] <BCMM> also i think on debian, networkmanager will
ignore any network that has an entry in /etc/network/interfaces
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2330 [13:40:37] <Wolf20180323> BCMM should I write wlan1(wifi
dongle aircrack stuff) there and do a service network-manager
restart?
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2332 [13:40:58] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: best to just google
unmanaged-devices; i don't really use networkmanager
2333 [13:41:13] <BCMM> but i'm pretty sure it takes the MAC
address of the device, not the interface name
2334 [13:41:22] <BCMM> anyway, i'm afk for a while now.
sorry.
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2337 [13:41:47] <Wolf20180323> BCMM ok thank you for the good tips
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2350 [13:51:46] <Wolf20180323> maybe I found something disabling
the wifi dongle on wpa supplicant abd netwrork manager I can only
hope the stuff will work on Debian 9
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2362 [14:01:40] <Wolf20180323> i found some stuff but it
doesn't make sense to.me. conf files but they have to been
edited and I don't know how...
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2386 [14:12:27] <Wolf20180323> hi all. I've two different
wirelesa adapters. I'm using aircrack-ng and reaver to test my
wps. The external interface is in monitor mode and is beimg used. In
order to use aircrack-mg network-manager and some things are killed
and disabled by airmon-ng. The Internal interface (wlan0) is NOT
being used AT ALL, so I'd like to browse the Internet
connecting to Wi-Fi on the Internal adapter, while performing the
pen testing on the extwrnal. Can somebody help
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2398 [14:21:12] <ru7tyy> Hello.
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2402 [14:23:52] <ru7tyy> Any1 here?
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2404 [14:24:36] <n4dir> !ask
2405 [14:24:36] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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2414 [14:30:29] <choice__> Damn! I had two files in a directory
"a" and "b". And I did "mv a b". So
now b is gone. Can I get it back?
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2416 [14:31:04] <BCMM> choice__: no
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2419 [14:31:23] <BCMM> choice__: oh actually, i *think* moving a
file over another file is an unlink/rename
2420 [14:31:27] <BCMM> not an overwrite
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2422 [14:31:35] <BCMM> so you *might* be able to use extundelete
or something
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2424 [14:32:24] <choice__> BCMM: What is extundelete?
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2427 [14:32:45] <BCMM> choice__: it's an undelete tool for
ext filesystems
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2432 [14:33:03] <BCMM> choice: bear in mind that there is no
recycle bin or anything like that for a deletion from command line
2433 [14:33:08] <shtrb> Any I217-LM experienced used remember how
to make e1000e work after reboot without full shutdown ? the same
issue existed in jessi but I can't find anything related in
logs
2434 [14:33:17] <choice> BCMM: So 'apt-get extundelete'?
2435 [14:33:19] <BCMM> choice: just tools that go through your
free space for files that *might* not be overwritten yet
2436 [14:33:39] <BCMM> choice: if the file is valuable, unmount
the disk immediately and plug it in to another system to use
extundelete there
2437 [14:34:27] <choice> BCMM: 'another system'?
2438 [14:34:35] <Wolf20180323> BCMM Hi sorry to disturb you again
do you understand something on these configurations
replaced-url
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2440 [14:35:35] <BCMM> Wolf20180323: no sorry, never used
wpa_supplicant with systemd
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2442 [14:36:22] <Wolf20180323> BCMM ok np
2443 [14:36:29] <BCMM> choice: everything you write to the disk
has a chance of overwriting your deleted file
2444 [14:36:34] <shtrb> Wolf20180323, does it work without
network-manager ?
2445 [14:36:40] <choice> BCMM: I know. Now how do I undelete the
file?
2446 [14:36:48] <BCMM> choice: so if it's *very* important
that you get this file back, plug the hdd in to another computer
2447 [14:36:58] <choice> BCMM: Why into another computer??
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2449 [14:37:01] <permalink> hello . anyone has any idea wtf is
happening with my PC here ?
replaced-url
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2452 [14:37:17] <BCMM> choice: because, presumably, you'd be
installing extundelete on the same disk you're trying to
recover stuff from
2453 [14:37:28] <choice> BCMM: It's not the disk I would
install something on.
2454 [14:37:55] <BCMM> choice: well, that's ok then
2455 [14:37:58] <BCMM> have you unmounted it?
2456 [14:37:59] <choice> BCMM: The partition the file (hopefully)
is on is not mounted to / or /home/ or anything.
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2458 [14:38:08] <choice> BCMM: No, should I unmount it?
2459 [14:38:36] <permalink> if i have both monitors connected this
weird thing happens . and the PC won't boot . i have Debian 9
Stetch but i don't think it has something to do with the OS
2460 [14:38:43] <BCMM> choice: probably just read
replaced-url
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2462 [14:38:50] <BCMM> photorec might also be useful here
2463 [14:39:00] <choice> BCMM: Fucking SOURCEFORGE?
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2465 [14:39:08] <choice> Is this the 90s again?
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2467 [14:39:33] <RoyK> choice: there are still projects around on
sourceorge ;)
2468 [14:39:36] <RoyK> forge, even
2469 [14:39:46] <Wolf20180323> shtrb yeah wlan1 is being used by
aircrack and reavrr in monitor mode. I wanna use wlan0 with Wi-Fi
aircrack kill network manager and wpa aupplicant but disabling wlan1
in the conf of those shluld sove the pronlem (typo small touch
screen)
2470 [14:39:47] <choice> RoyK: I would never install anything from
SF.
2471 [14:39:55] <RoyK> choice: because?
2472 [14:40:11] <BCMM> i mean, if you don't know about
package managers, i don't know if you're going to have
much luck here really
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2475 [14:40:37] <choice> RoyK: I only use what is in the Debian
repos.
2476 [14:40:43] <BCMM> choice: i absolutely refuse to basically
read out documentation from sourceforge for you line by line
2477 [14:40:51] * choice is trying debugfs ...
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2479 [14:40:57] <RoyK> choice: your best bet would be photorec -
ext[234] doesn't have an undelete function
2480 [14:40:58] <BCMM> so if you're not prepared to read a
page from sourceforge, i guess you're stuck now
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2482 [14:41:51] <choice> BCMM: I have no objections to *read*
stuff on SF.
2483 [14:42:07] <RoyK> BCMM: choice is probably afraid of a time
machine or perhaps learning something new ;)
2484 [14:42:29] <BCMM> choice: it's in debian repos!
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2486 [14:43:00] <choice> "extundelete /dev/sda4
--restore-all" .. hmm...
2487 [14:43:07] <shtrb> Wolf20180323, I think it is easier just to
disable Network-Manager
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2492 [14:44:46] <BCMM> choice: obviously, sub in your partition
2493 [14:44:52] <choice> BCMM: Sure.
2494 [14:44:57] <choice> extundelete is running ...
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2496 [14:45:03] <g0zzy> Got myself into a big pickle with Debian
mysql-server. After deleting several users from mysql.user (none of
which included root) i found that root could no longer log in to
mysql. I then uninstalled and reinstalled with no change. I then got
desperate and deleted /etc/mysql, before reinstalling, thinking
there could be some conf files in the way. As a result, i have
broken packages now and am not sure what to do
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2498 [14:45:16] <BCMM> choice: as RoyK says, there is no undelete
feature in ext
2499 [14:45:16] <RoyK> choice: next time, make sure you have a
good backup ;)
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2501 [14:45:23] <BCMM> this is just an unsupported trick that
*might* work, sometimes
2502 [14:45:36] <MrKeuner> Hi, is
replaced-url
2503 [14:45:37] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2505 [14:45:50] <MrKeuner> Else, what am I missing?
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2507 [14:46:45] <choice> Hmm.. it 'recovered' the file
but it turned some hundred kilobytes into 302 bytes.
2508 [14:46:48] <choice> I'm fucked.
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2514 [14:47:37] <RoyK> choice: unplug the drive and run photorec
against it
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2516 [14:47:47] <choice> RoyK: 'unplug'?
2517 [14:47:47] <RoyK> from another machine or something
2518 [14:48:00] <BCMM> RoyK: it's not his root fs, and
it's already unmounted
2519 [14:48:04] <choice> RoyK: The partition is not mounted.
2520 [14:48:15] <RoyK> ok, tried photorec?
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2522 [14:48:27] <shtrb> choice, please backup that data
(disk/parttion) before any extra ction
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2525 [14:48:41] <RoyK> shtrb: indeed
2526 [14:48:59] <choice> extundelete recovered some files and
called them just 'file.12345' etc.
2527 [14:49:04] <RoyK> choice: better try like shtrb said -
ddrescue the whole drive to somewhere else and then try recovery
from there
2528 [14:49:05] <choice> Maybe my file is among those.
2529 [14:49:21] <RoyK> choice: what sort of file is this?
2530 [14:49:29] <bites> MrKeuner: he probably meant this bug
#869760
2531 [14:49:29] <choice> An sqlite3 db.
2532 [14:49:30] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2534 [14:49:49] <RoyK> choice: then run 'file file.*'
and grep for sqlite
2535 [14:50:05] <choice> RoyK: sqlite files have the string
"sqlite" in them?
2536 [14:50:13] <RoyK> choice: man file ;)
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2538 [14:50:21] <choice> ah
2539 [14:50:29] <choice> But none of the files is big enough
anyhow :(
2540 [14:50:42] <RoyK> then try photorec
2541 [14:50:46] <RoyK> probably the best choice
2542 [14:50:55] <shtrb> Wolf20180323, if you systemctl stop
network-manager it will stop (for now) the service and you can work
as you like , using disable will stop it from running all the time
2543 [14:50:59] <BCMM> RoyK: what's wrong with doing it all
on the real drive, as long as its unmounted?
2544 [14:51:16] <RoyK> BCMM: not much, unless something is bad on
the drive, physically
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2551 [14:51:50] <RoyK> BCMM: personally, I always start out with
ddrescue and then work on the image
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2553 [14:52:00] <shtrb> BCMM, it is better to work on a backup
that way if any corrupt the data you are not totally %@#% and you
also have extra stuff you might need
2554 [14:52:07] <choice> "file" calls some of the
recovered files "SQLite Rollback Journal". I guess that
means they are sqlite files?
2555 [14:52:08] <RoyK> given I have space for it, though
2556 [14:52:20] <RoyK> choice: that's just the journal
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2558 [14:52:40] <RoyK> choice: sqlite creates those all the time
and removes them after rolling back
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2560 [14:52:44] <RoyK> or commiting
2561 [14:52:51] <choice> RoyK: Is that stuff sqlite writes to
/tmp/ or something?
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2564 [14:53:10] <g0zzy> Actually #mysql are suggesting that Debian
packaging is causing a lot of problems
2565 [14:53:12] <RoyK> normally they are stored in the same
directory as the sqlite database is
2566 [14:53:38] <RoyK> g0zzy: they say a lot in there, don't
they? ;)
2567 [14:53:39] * g0zzy meant #mariab
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2571 [14:54:37] <g0zzy> "debian and its retarded permission
setup for mysql/mariadb - the problem that just keeps
resurfacing"
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2574 [14:55:39] <BCMM> g0zzy: is that supposed to be relevant to
the sqlite problem above, or just venting?
2575 [14:55:41] <choice> Ok, let's try photorec.
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2577 [14:55:59] <choice> 'apt-get install testdisk'?
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2579 [14:56:33] <MrKeuner> bites, thanks
2580 [14:57:22] <g0zzy> BCMM: They seem to think so but i'm
not interested in blaming only in knowing why and restoring
2581 [14:57:23] <choice> Wow, the photorec manpage is sparse on
infos.
2582 [14:57:35] <choice> Should I just run 'photorec
/dev/mypartition'?
2583 [14:57:38] <g0zzy> Can you help?
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2589 [14:59:18] <RoyK> choice: yes
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2591 [14:59:33] <choice> It seems to have some guided process...
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2595 [15:01:46] <choice> Ok.. photorec is running ...
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2599 [15:02:11] <choice> Nice, it automatically gives the files
the right extension.
2600 [15:02:43] <RoyK> choice: probably with 'file'
magick
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2602 [15:03:06] <choice> RoyK: Could be.
2603 [15:04:00] <choice> The ETA algo seems to be way off.
2604 [15:04:18] <choice> It's like 10 times slower then it
estimates.
2605 [15:04:26] <RoyK> choice: with fat/ntfs, the filenames
aren't lost, with extX, they are
2606 [15:04:42] <choice> I wonder what "mv a b" did.
2607 [15:04:57] <choice> I would assume it just changes pointers
in the directory hirarchy.
2608 [15:05:00] <RoyK> choice: I guess that ETA may be a bit like
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2609 [15:05:14] <choice> Why would it read and write the data?
2610 [15:05:22] <greycat> choice: within the same file system,
yes, that's what mv (rename) does
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2612 [15:05:40] <greycat> If the destination is in a different
file system, then it has to copy-and-delete.
2613 [15:05:50] <choice> greycat: It's on the same partition.
2614 [15:05:56] <choice> It was just "mv a b".
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2616 [15:06:05] <choice> Just the filenames. No paths.
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2618 [15:06:15] <greycat> and "b" is not an existing
directory?
2619 [15:06:26] <choice> greycat: "a" and "b"
are both files.
2620 [15:06:39] <choice> Actually a.db and b.db. Two sqlite dbs.
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2622 [15:06:47] <RoyK> choice: have you considered setting up a
backup of this system so that next time this happens, you can fix it
more easily?
2623 [15:06:49] <greycat> then it's just a rename
2624 [15:06:59] <choice> photorec is finished.
2625 [15:07:07] <choice> "8959 files saved" ..
let's see...
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2627 [15:07:10] <RoyK> choice: as I said
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2628 [15:07:16] <choice> RoyK: Yeah
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2630 [15:08:01] <choice> Hmm.. it has put the files in 18
directories.
2631 [15:08:07] <choice> Now how do I find the right one...
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2633 [15:08:24] <RoyK> choice: find /dir -type f -exec file {} \;
| grep -i sqlite
2634 [15:08:27] <RoyK> for instance
2635 [15:08:39] <choice> ok ...
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2640 [15:09:20] <choice> Funny... it found a db. With 19MB. Way
larger then the file I am missing.
2641 [15:09:36] <choice> But sqlite opens it. And it has *one* of
the tables in it.
2642 [15:09:40] <choice> So what does that mean?
2643 [15:10:03] <choice> And the table is empty. Hmm...
2644 [15:10:07] <RoyK> choice: no idea
2645 [15:10:12] <RoyK> choice: possibly an old file
2646 [15:10:25] <choice> But there never was a 19MB version.
2647 [15:10:40] <RoyK> ok, and no backup, of course
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2649 [15:10:48] <RoyK> choice: what was it you had in this db?
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2652 [15:11:08] <choice> RoyK: My tasklist data of the last weeks.
2653 [15:11:38] <RoyK> choice: ok, so nothing important, then, I
mean otherwise you would have backed it up, right ;)
2654 [15:11:46] <choice> It's super important.
2655 [15:11:56] <RoyK> then keep a bloody backup
2656 [15:11:59] <choice> I lose all info about my work for the
last week or so if I cannot recover it.
2657 [15:12:24] <choice> Ok, I figured out what the recovered
sqlite file is. It's indeed something else.
2658 [15:12:30] <RoyK> did you umount the drive just after this
happened?
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2660 [15:12:50] <choice> RoyK: After a few 'ls' commands
that I typed with horror in my face, yes.
2661 [15:12:57] <RoyK> good
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2663 [15:13:43] <RoyK> well, next up is to try to go through the
disk itself
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2665 [15:14:16] <RoyK> I wrote a piece of software for tht some
time back (I lost some pictures I had at an exhibition after a drive
died)
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2671 [15:15:03] <choice> Strange that photorec did not recover the
file.
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2675 [15:16:13] <RoyK> choice: not sure how it works, really
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2680 [15:17:55] <RoyK> choice: you may want to try 7.1
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2681 [15:17:56] <choice> Ok, here comes the kicker!
2682 [15:18:15] <choice> Everyone ready to laugh at me / hate me?
2683 [15:18:31] * RoyK smiles and waits
2684 [15:18:34] <CappyT> Hi guys, anyone here can suggest me a
solution for IAM? I'm a total newbie in the matter of auth
services
2685 [15:18:47] <choice> RoyK: Well, I did not type "mv a.db
b.db" as I thought.
2686 [15:19:12] <RoyK> then what?
2687 [15:19:23] <choice> RoyK: I typed 'mv a.db b.bdb'.
2688 [15:19:27] <choice> RoyK: That typo saved me!
2689 [15:19:30] <RoyK> :D
2690 [15:19:35] <choice> :)
2691 [15:19:39] <n4dir> hail to the typos !
2692 [15:20:03] * bug laughs
2693 [15:20:09] <choice> Thanks for all the help everybody!!!
2694 [15:20:19] <choice> I'm so happy :)
2695 [15:20:33] <choice> And the phone rings...
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2697 [15:20:41] <RoyK> choice: setup backup!
2698 [15:21:01] <bug> ^
2699 [15:21:10] <choice> Ok :)
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2718 [15:27:44] <RoyK> choice: I use duplicati - it's a bit
heavy, but still, it works well, and with jottacloud as backend,
since it's cheap and can store all of my data (almost 10TiB)
for $7.50 a month
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2721 [15:28:44] <garries> I upgraded to Debian 9 (Stretch) and
when i try to boot up I get theis screen
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2722 [15:29:39] <Wolf20180323> I solved the problem check this
pastebin.com/yLuQZZcP if you need to do.penetration testing and use
Wi-Fi on two different wireless interfaces/cards Thanks everyome for
the ideas
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2726 [15:30:19] <Thedarkb> I think I'll try the non-free
netinst
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2728 [15:31:33] <Tenkawa> garries: any more details?
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2730 [15:31:55] <Tenkawa> how? using which method? etc
2731 [15:32:16] <garries> Tenkawa: i updated from debian8 using
command line
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2736 [15:33:26] <garries> Tenkawa: here is the tutorial i used....
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2737 [15:34:00] <greycat> dpkg jessie->stretch
2738 [15:34:00] <dpkg> Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of
the <release notes>
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2742 [15:35:27] <garries> greycat: yea its the same advice as in
the tutorial. i did the same
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2746 [15:36:24] <Tenkawa> thanks greycat i'll defer to you. I
need to go afk
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2748 [15:36:52] <Tenkawa> and greetings btw
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2753 [15:37:16] <Tenkawa> bbl all
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2757 [15:38:19] <child> are there online the debian potato iso to
download?
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2759 [15:38:54] <greycat> !archive
2760 [15:38:54] <dpkg> archive is, like, a collection of files.
'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving
tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate
operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian
releases, see
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2763 [15:40:21] <garries> greycat: what do think I should try ?
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2766 [15:40:46] <child> greycat: thank you =*
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2768 [15:41:48] <albttx> Can i recompile a kernel module inside a
chroot (creating a live os)
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2775 [15:42:46] <child> greycat: the first one there is woody,
didn't see potato
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2788 [15:50:04] <garries> I upgraded to Debian 9 (Stretch) and
when i try to boot up it hangs. I get theis screen
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2798 [15:54:16] <Thedarkb> The installer has me going in a loop
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2800 [15:54:36] <Thedarkb> I select the network, I put in the key
and then it wants me to select the network.
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2804 [15:55:27] <permalink> guys , can you please take a look at
the issue i raised here at 15:37:00 ?
2805 [15:55:36] <Thedarkb> Time zone?
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2816 [16:02:38] <SpeedyG> permalink: at 15:37 'my time'
the only thing raised was a person saying 'bbl all' ...
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2820 [16:05:06] <SpeedyG> permalink: from the video you posted,
might be a dead PSU...
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2826 [16:07:45] <SpeedyG> or some power-feedback through the
second monitor which causes the fan to spin
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2836 [16:13:30] <jasperarcola> Hi, I'm running stretch and a
service running under systemd coredumped, and I can't find the
core dump... I've found the systemd-coredump but it's in
stable-updates, not stable? So how do I capture and save coredumps
on stretch?
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2840 [16:14:30] <Harm133> hey guys, somehow my cifs mount seems to
be using out port 445 and trying to connect to a random high port..
This should be other way aroudn right
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2842 [16:15:01] <greycat> Is it working?
2843 [16:15:04] <Harm133> No
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2846 [16:15:32] <Harm133> it looks like 192.168.2.20 (445) ->
10.0.22.22 (58582)
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2848 [16:16:06] <Harm133> whereas it should be 192.168.2.20
(58582) -> 10.0.22.22 (445)
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2850 [16:16:14] <Harm133> never seen this behaviour...
2851 [16:16:21] <kompowiec2[m]> systemd is correct version?
2852 [16:16:33] <kompowiec2[m]> garries:
2853 [16:16:46] <Harm133> systemd 215
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2858 [16:20:20] <jasperarcola> systemd 232
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2866 [16:24:36] <[E]sc> i'm using an nvidia card version:
375.82 on debian stretch. I get a lot of stutter when i play games
like 3D games like urbanterror, is there a way to fix it?
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2870 [16:25:11] <greycat> start by identifying the video chipset:
lspci -nn | grep -i vga
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2894 [16:35:56] <permalink> SpeedyG the PSU i fine , i also
thought that and i changed the PSU right now i have the same problem
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2896 [16:36:33] <permalink> the PC won't boot with 2 monitors
connected and as soon as i unplug one of the monitors the PC boots
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2904 [16:38:59] <permalink> but after it boots i can plug the
second monitor and it recognizes it very well , all fine .
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2991 [17:30:39] <permalink> SpeedyG : i use Debian Stretch with
KDE . i use open source drivers ( AMDGPU i think )
2992 [17:31:05] <permalink> btw in this case there is no need to
create a xorg.conf file , right ?
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2998 [17:34:02] <pos> depends
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3006 [17:38:07] <zarez> Hello, does anyone explain me why I cannot
ping google.com but I can resolveip google.com, wtf?
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3037 [17:51:15] <permalink> in case someone followed my issue , i
think i fond a solution . the GPU is a HD 7770 GHz Editon ( with 1
DVI Dual Link , 2 mini DisplayPort, 1 HDMI) and i was using a
DisplayPort to Mini Display-Port cable ( DP in one of the monitors
an Mini DP in the GPU ) and apparently this cable has problems or
the mini DP ports on the GPU
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3040 [17:52:48] <permalink> i switched that cable with a DP to DP
cable ( the original cable of the Acer monitor) + a DP to mini DP
adaptor and now the PC boots with both monitors connected and also
the weird PSU sound is gone
3041 [17:53:21] <greycat> Nice.
3042 [17:54:58] <permalink> so in case you encounter such problems
check the cable. this possibly faulty cable is made by Delock
company and is white so i would suggest to check it be careful if
you want to use it
3043 [17:55:13] <greycat> was it brand new?
3044 [17:55:21] <permalink> yes , unused
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3050 [17:58:53] <permalink> jesus i changed the PSU in vain . i
was worried that the drivers might me the cause ..
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3058 [18:00:13] <permalink> i switched from Widows to Debian 6
months ago . it has been an interesting journey so far :) i like it
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3072 [18:07:03] <RoyK> permalink: widows or windows? ;)
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3079 [18:11:07] <permalink> RoyK Windows 10 aka The-MS-Botnet
3080 [18:12:25] <RoyK> guessed so ;)
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3099 [18:21:46] <nightcrow> Could someone help me?
3100 [18:23:19] <greycat> !ask
3101 [18:23:19] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
3102 [18:24:19] <nightcrow> okay then. On login I'm getting
thrown into emergency mode, but root user is locked
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3104 [18:25:08] <[E]sc> greycat, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller
[0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750] [10de:1381] (rev
a2)
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3108 [18:25:32] <nightcrow> fix?
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3110 [18:26:04] <greycat> !i forgot root's password
3111 [18:26:04] <dpkg> For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit
the kernel setting in the grub command line (add
'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your
root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4)
'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6)
'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1)
'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift
while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux
init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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3113 [18:26:54] <nightcrow> init=bin/sh gives a tty error
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3116 [18:27:12] <greycat> how did you get to this point?
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3118 [18:27:40] <nightcrow> poorly modified /etc/fstab
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3120 [18:28:26] <greycat> Sounds like there's more than one
problem at work, but OK. If you can't boot from the hard drive,
boot from your installer, and get to a shell with Ctrl-Alt-F2.
3121 [18:28:36] <greycat> !chroot
3122 [18:28:36] <dpkg> To chroot into your Debian system boot to
your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console
(Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2
/dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable
with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none
/target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then
chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
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3124 [18:28:53] <greycat> Then you can follow those steps, modify
the files, re-run update-grub.
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3126 [18:29:13] <nightcrow> umm, I don't have a live
disk/live cd
3127 [18:29:20] <greycat> whatever you installed with
3128 [18:29:23] <Offsec-Shreak> /msg Offsec-Shreak REGISTER
<cisco9541> <kiararagc15@gmail.com>
3129 [18:29:31] <annadane> Offsec-Shreak, change your password
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3131 [18:29:53] <Offsec-Shreak> yah man thanks just was checking
3132 [18:30:15] <nightcrow> It came installed, greycat
3133 [18:31:17] <permalink> nightcrow try to make a bootable stick
with Etcher
3134 [18:31:24] <permalink> and another laptop / PC
3135 [18:31:48] <nightcrow> how will that work when it's
having issues with fstab?
3136 [18:32:06] <nightcrow> will it recognize something else
first?
3137 [18:32:13] <greycat> you need some way to boot a working
Linux system and mount the partition that has the broken fstab file
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3139 [18:32:22] <greycat> then you can edit the file
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3141 [18:32:38] <nightcrow> and how can that be done, is the
issue?
3142 [18:32:55] <greycat> multiple ways have been suggested
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3145 [18:33:45] <Offsec-Shreak> /join #offsec
3146 [18:33:49] <nightcrow> and I don't understand how any
will work. Putting a usb key won't work because it doesn't
recognize it prior to trying to mount
3147 [18:34:19] <greycat> If the USB device is bootable, then your
BIOS boots from that. Once booted, you can attempt to mount the hard
drive's partitions.
3148 [18:34:20] <permalink> nightcrow use a working pc to make the
bbotable usb
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3150 [18:34:56] <nightcrow> I'm not sure that's true,
greycat
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3160 [18:35:44] <nightcrow> I've put a bootable usb in before
and it didn't seem to work
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3162 [18:36:06] <greycat> If your computer is very old, it may not
be able to boot USB. Or the firmware/BIOS may have been configured
not to.
3163 [18:36:25] <nightcrow> if either is true, what's next
step?
3164 [18:36:49] <greycat> Make a bootable CD-ROM.
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3166 [18:37:08] <greycat> (or in the latter case, go into the
firmware/BIOS and tell it to boot the USB device)
3167 [18:37:29] <zy]x[yz> from the a package page at debian.org,
how can I tell which repo the package lives in?
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3170 [18:38:00] <nightcrow> how would that help greycat? same usb
issue
3171 [18:38:14] <greycat> I think it says "contrib" or
"non-free" somewhere on the page if it's not in main.
3172 [18:38:19] <zy]x[yz> oh, I see it. it's in the title
line in braces. thanks
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3174 [18:39:02] <nightcrow> wouldn't an external dvd drive
have the same issues?
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3176 [18:39:26] <greycat> are you saying it does not have a CD or
DVD drive at all?
3177 [18:39:33] <nightcrow> nope
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3179 [18:39:44] <greycat> No, you're not saying that, or no,
it does not have one?
3180 [18:39:59] <nightcrow> well actually yes, that is what I am
saying
3181 [18:40:20] <greycat> Then it's GOT to be new enough to
boot USB. Go into the firmware (F1 or F10 or ESC or F12 or god knows
what key at boot time) and figure it out.
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3184 [18:41:11] <nightcrow> I'm not sure if they disabled usb
boot though
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3186 [18:41:21] <greycat> go into the firmware and find out
3187 [18:41:56] <nightcrow> I don't know how to get into the
firmware
3188 [18:42:01] <nightcrow> that's the rub
3189 [18:42:14] <greycat> if you can't figure it out by
banging the keys then google your model number and find the manual
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3196 [18:43:12] <nightcrow> ahh, there is no way to do it
3197 [18:43:14] <nightcrow> nice
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3202 [18:43:52] <greycat> OK, then install a fresh copy of Debian
on a new hard drive and put the new hard drive into the machine.
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3207 [18:44:14] <nightcrow> the machine doesn't have a hard
drive...
3208 [18:44:27] <greycat> What the fuck does it have? A gerbil?
3209 [18:44:35] <nightcrow> microsd card
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3211 [18:45:56] <permalink> nightcrow do you use some sort of SBC
? Raspberry Pi , Odroid
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3213 [18:46:04] <nightcrow> yes
3214 [18:46:10] <nightcrow> raspberry pi
3215 [18:46:41] <greycat> Is it even Debian, or is it Raspbian?
3216 [18:47:31] <nightcrow> Responds to /etc/debian_version as 9.4
3217 [18:47:32] <permalink> idk about Rasberry but on my Orange Pi
Prime i use Armbian 5.38 and it works very well
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3219 [18:48:19] <nightcrow> permalink, yeah, but you didn't
fuck up your fstab
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3221 [18:49:09] <nightcrow> if I have to reinstall, I'll lose
about 10 months worth of work
3222 [18:49:28] <annadane> is anyone unable to find the streamlink
package in backports... received an email saying it was accepted to
backports and it's been a while (apt update'd and all the
usual stuff), i wonder if the mirror for backports is just really
really delayed
3223 [18:49:37] <annadane> i guess i can try to use another mirror
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3228 [18:51:01] <nightcrow> so I'm trying to figure out how
to recover rather than reinstall...
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3233 [18:52:07] <alkisg> nightcrow: do you have an sd card reader,
to put it in your pc and fix things?
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3236 [18:52:40] <nightcrow> alkisg, the sd reader doesn't
recognize the ext4 partition
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3239 [18:53:04] <nightcrow> or rathee, the win box doesn't
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3241 [18:53:28] <alkisg> Yes you'd need a linux box
3242 [18:53:43] <nightcrow> which I don't have
3243 [18:53:43] <alkisg> Or even a linux live cd to boot your pc
with
3244 [18:53:59] <nightcrow> which I also don't have
3245 [18:54:06] <alkisg> You can create a live usb stick
3246 [18:54:13] <alkisg> If you don't have anything to boot
linux, you won't bootl inux
3247 [18:54:15] <permalink> nightcrow try to clone the SC cad as
it is now then install a Debian or whatever VM in windows with
VirtualBox or VMWare
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3249 [18:54:32] <permalink> and see if you can read it from the VM
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3251 [18:54:37] <permalink> mount it
3252 [18:54:54] <nightcrow> permalink, how well does vm work on an
older machine?
3253 [18:54:56] <annadane> well whatever, it hasn't been that
long, i'll wait
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3255 [18:55:09] <annadane> (it's available in virtualenv
anyway)
3256 [18:55:20] <permalink> what specs u have on this old pc ? cpu
and ram
3257 [18:56:24] <nightcrow> 512 mb ran
3258 [18:56:34] <nightcrow> p4 1.6 ghz
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3262 [18:57:23] <nightcrow> was a cheap desktop when I got it in
2002
3263 [18:58:33] <permalink> damn :)) that hurts . idk if p4
supports virtualisation . if you had 1,5 -2 gb ram and an old dual
core it would have worked . you don't have to install the VM
with a GUI
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3265 [18:58:53] <johnfg> hi folks!
3266 [18:59:09] <nightcrow> And yes, I'm painfully aware that
the specs on it are not much better than the pi, and with less RAM
3267 [18:59:09] <johnfg> well, I'm on stretch on my main
server and most all is working!
3268 [18:59:33] <johnfg> Thanks to greycat and others who helped
on my dist-upgrade.
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3271 [19:00:10] <johnfg> openafs-client did not upgrade (I'd
had some trouble in jessie too, and had to revert to an older
kernel.
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3276 [19:04:33] <permalink> nightcrow i would halp you if you were
in my city lol . try to fing a friend willing to let you temporary
install a VM on his machine
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3280 [19:05:07] <treesy> g
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3285 [19:06:04] <alkisg> Or just create a live usb stick/cd :)
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3363 [19:44:58] <_rubik> Hey all. I just bumped into a command
called 'short', used in the context of
generating/converint (?) a .short.yaml to .yaml. I can't find
documentation on this anywhere. Does anyone know about it?
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3365 [19:45:59] <greycat> there's a #yaml channel ... maybe
they know?
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3367 [19:46:29] <_rubik> good call
3368 [19:46:39] <johnfg> Ok, I had to install linux-headers
(don't know why they didn't get installed in the
dist-upgrade, then dpkg-reconfigure openafs-modules-dkms, and now
I'm back in business!
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3374 [19:48:06] <geoja> Hi, I am having an issue installing
debian. I have a live USB. When I set my computer to use UEFI, the
display is strange.
3375 [19:48:17] <geoja> Lines that are supposed to be vertical are
diagonal.
3376 [19:48:31] <johnfg> greycat: On my other stretch machine here
in the office, I can't get my canon printer to print.
3377 [19:48:32] <geoja> When I set my computer to legacy BIOS, no
problem.
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3379 [19:49:00] <greycat> so why did you put my name in front of
that?
3380 [19:49:12] <garries> I upgraded to Debian 9 (Stretch) and
when i try to boot up I get theis screen
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3385 [19:52:36] <geoja> How could I look into what's wrong?
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3396 [19:55:00] <greycat> AUTHOR
3397 [19:55:00] <greycat> pam_unix was written by various people.
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3405 [19:57:12] <greycat> why wouldn't they just remove the
AUTHOR section...?
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3409 [19:57:43] <garries> can i get help regarding a failed bootup
of my new Strech ?
3410 [19:58:03] <johnfg_> Looking at journalctl -u cups,
there's a wierd line: Mar 30 11:41:32 churchdebian
/hpfax[6727]: [6727]: error: Failed to create
/var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip, and I don't have *any* hp!
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3413 [19:58:36] <johnfg_> And nothing of hp shows up either in
Print Settings, or at localhost:631.
3414 [19:58:44] <johnfg_> What to do to get rid of this?
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3420 [20:03:55] <geoja> So no one has had this problem of wrong
display on UEFI native?
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3431 [20:07:46] <johnfg_> I removed hplip, and then autoremoved
the rest associated that I didn't need, but still not printing.
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3461 [20:29:05] <OtakuSenpai> hello
3462 [20:29:20] <OtakuSenpai> jelly: can you help me in solving my
fan issue
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3464 [20:30:29] <annadane> OtakuSenpai, or if you post your
question maybe *anyone* can try their hand at solving it
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3466 [20:31:16] <OtakuSenpai> annadane: yesterday i tried to solve
my laptops issue of fan not starting up at boot time
3467 [20:31:22] <OtakuSenpai> in ##hardware
3468 [20:31:52] <OtakuSenpai> they said it might not be a hardware
issue, as the fan settings were accessible and ok from bios
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3470 [20:32:20] <OtakuSenpai> so i thought if i could try to look
at the software side of the problem
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3477 [20:35:01] <OtakuSenpai> also cgmanager.service systemd
service has recently stopped working in my laptop
3478 [20:35:10] <OtakuSenpai> idk if its related
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3481 [20:37:04] <OtakuSenpai> anyone might help?
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3485 [20:38:48] <OtakuSenpai> do i need to provide some specific
info?
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3487 [20:40:51] <PhotoJim> some fans are software-controlled, not
BIOS-controlled
3488 [20:41:02] <PhotoJim> but I've not owned a machine with
that configuration, so I've not learned how to deal with it
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3490 [20:41:25] <OtakuSenpai> i hav hp g5 245
3491 [20:41:37] <OtakuSenpai> thts the laptops model
3492 [20:41:58] <Thedarkb> Hey PhotoJim
3493 [20:42:16] <PhotoJim> Thedarkb: hey
3494 [20:42:16] <Thedarkb> Fancy seeing you here.
3495 [20:42:18] <Thedarkb> :)
3496 [20:42:20] <PhotoJim> I get around :)
3497 [20:42:33] <Thedarkb> I've been having trouble with wifi
3498 [20:42:36] <Thedarkb> as is tradition.
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3500 [20:42:57] <PhotoJim> heh
3501 [20:43:00] <PhotoJim> WiFi and Linux are fun
3502 [20:43:14] <PhotoJim> I use wire whenever I can :) and
I've replaced WiFi NICs with good Intel ones in laptops
precisely to have better compatibility
3503 [20:43:25] <Thedarkb> I might switch it out, it's iffy
anyway.
3504 [20:43:33] <PhotoJim> Intel cards are cheap and good
3505 [20:43:40] <Thedarkb> It is an Intel card :)
3506 [20:43:43] <PhotoJim> and usually easy to install
3507 [20:43:46] <PhotoJim> oh, should be OK then
3508 [20:43:56] <Thedarkb> It's got drivers but I can't
get it to work.
3509 [20:44:09] <Thedarkb> It keeps getting soft blocked by
something.
3510 [20:44:20] <Thedarkb> and even if I unblock it with rfkill,
it won't work.
3511 [20:44:28] <Thedarkb> any ideas?
3512 [20:44:46] <Thedarkb> If I am going to get another one,
it'll have to be mini PCI not PCIe
3513 [20:44:56] <Thedarkb> Old laptop.
3514 [20:45:03] <PhotoJim> how old?
3515 [20:45:06] <Thedarkb> 2005
3516 [20:45:12] <PhotoJim> what CPU?
3517 [20:45:28] <Thedarkb> Low voltage Pentium M Banias.
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3519 [20:45:32] <PhotoJim> is it a BIOS incompatibility? some
BIOSes only allow certain whitelisted cards
3520 [20:45:32] <Thedarkb> 1.4ghz
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3523 [20:45:37] <Thedarkb> Nah, it's the right card.
3524 [20:45:41] <Thedarkb> It works under Lubuntu
3525 [20:45:49] <PhotoJim> but not Debian, hmm
3526 [20:46:00] <Thedarkb> I know I have an identical spare
somewhere
3527 [20:46:10] <Thedarkb> I have a bit of a hoard.
3528 [20:46:30] <Thedarkb> At the moment I'm restoring my
backup over USB 1.1 -_-
3529 [20:46:37] <Thedarkb> I might have another crack at Debian
though.
3530 [20:46:38] <PhotoJim> that's painful :)
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3532 [20:46:54] <Thedarkb> I would use my USB 2.0 CardBus card in
it but the slot's broken.
3533 [20:46:59] <Thedarkb> and by broken I mean torn off.
3534 [20:47:12] <nullbyte_> how can i remove this from apt-get
update is invalid repo
3535 [20:47:14] <nullbyte_> E: The repository 'replaced-url
3536 [20:47:16] <PhotoJim> I've actually only got Debian
running on one machine that has a GUI (I normally use it on headless
machines)
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3538 [20:47:19] <PhotoJim> ouch
3539 [20:47:25] <nullbyte_> to get a work apt-get update
3540 [20:47:29] <Thedarkb> Previous owner must have abused this
thing.
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3542 [20:47:46] <Thedarkb> There are chunks taken out of the metal
case.
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3546 [20:48:20] <Thedarkb> Anyway, bought it on ebay as "for
parts or not working" shoved an SSD in it and I've been
using it as a dedicated youtube machine more or less.
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3554 [20:49:26] <PhotoJim> cool
3555 [20:49:27] <Thedarkb> It's also worth noting that the
Wifi works under TinyCore Linux.
3556 [20:49:31] <PhotoJim> does it have a wired Ethernet port?
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3558 [20:49:34] <Thedarkb> Yeah
3559 [20:49:42] <PhotoJim> that might be your workaround :)
3560 [20:49:43] <Thedarkb> That's what I've been using.
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3562 [20:50:01] <Thedarkb> I do need Wifi though.
3563 [20:50:03] <PhotoJim> I've got a couple of old 802.11g
USB sticks I use for emergencies. well-supported under Linux.
3564 [20:50:11] <PhotoJim> I got them for about $3 at Office Depot
years ago.
3565 [20:50:12] <nullbyte_> who knows
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3567 [20:50:38] <Thedarkb> I find the mac address randomization
thing in the GNOME network manager screws up a lot of older cards.
3568 [20:50:59] <Thedarkb> I have a Ralink USB adapter which works
well under Linux but chokes when you try to change its MAC address
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3570 [20:51:12] <PhotoJim> ahh, you're doing some tricky
stuff
3571 [20:51:21] <PhotoJim> I don't do torrents or anything so
I don't obfuscate my MACs
3572 [20:51:30] <Thedarkb> Ubuntu does it by default.
3573 [20:51:36] <Thedarkb> As does Debian with GNOME
3574 [20:51:40] <LtL> nullbyte_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list remove
the ppa repo and run apt-get update, or apt update
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3579 [20:51:52] <Thedarkb> I'm an LXDE person mainly but I do
tend to use the GNOME Network Manager.
3580 [20:51:56] * PhotoJim nods
3581 [20:52:03] <bug> nullbyte_, you can comment out that line in
/etc/apt/sources.list
3582 [20:52:06] <Thedarkb> It's just 1 line in the config to
turn it off.
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3588 [20:56:41] <Thedarkb1> Lagged out there.
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3595 [20:58:19] <nullbyte_> o
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3645 [21:24:10] <Thedarkb> Yeah, I restored my Lubuntu backup and
the card works fine.
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3647 [21:24:20] <Thedarkb> I've tried Debian non-free too but
it still won't work.
3648 [21:24:23] <Thedarkb> Any ideas?
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3651 [21:24:30] <Thedarkb> oldstable maybe?
3652 [21:24:44] <geoja> Hi, I am trying to install Debian from a
live usb. If I set my computer to UEFI, the display is wrong. Legacy
works fine though.
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3654 [21:24:54] <geoja> Any idea how to fix this?
3655 [21:25:04] <petemc> use bios
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3657 [21:25:18] <petemc> or try to update efi
3658 [21:25:37] <geoja> petemc: What does update efi mean? Use a
newer .efi file?
3659 [21:26:25] <petemc> your machines firmware
3660 [21:26:35] <geoja> Ok will try to do it.
3661 [21:27:44] <petemc> your problem is vertical lines being
horizontal? thats pretty crazy
3662 [21:28:07] <Thedarkb> Heard of it happening before.
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3664 [21:28:30] <petemc> lots of monitors support changingg
orientation
3665 [21:28:30] <Thedarkb> I had some crazy shit happen when I
used the wrong microcode with my GPU
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3667 [21:28:36] <OtakuSenpai> \/w 27
3668 [21:28:43] <petemc> could be monitor thing
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3675 [21:33:54] <OtakuSenpai> hello
3676 [21:33:59] <OtakuSenpai> ccan anyone help me
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3678 [21:34:18] <OtakuSenpai> pls
3679 [21:35:05] <annadane> OtakuSenpai, i happen to know you
posted a question before, but not everyone does. if a sufficient
amount of time passes before someone has answered your question then
feel free to post it again
3680 [21:35:16] <annadane> also, those who just entered won't
have scrollback
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3686 [21:39:32] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my
laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out
tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software
side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service
isnt working properly
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3688 [21:40:54] <geoja> petemc: Updated my bios/efi and still have
the same problem.
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3690 [21:41:26] <geoja> Thedarkb: Any idea how to fix this? Should
I maybe get the microcode somewhere and put it in the liveusb
somehow?
3691 [21:41:33] <Thedarkb> Nah, no idea.
3692 [21:41:47] <petemc> geoja: do you have a compelling reason to
use uefi?
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3698 [21:45:03] <geoja> petemc: Nope.
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3702 [21:45:51] <geoja> I just thought it was newer than bios so
better use newer software than older/possibly sooner to get
deprecated one :).
3703 [21:46:37] <petemc> if you have a larger than 2
3704 [21:46:55] <petemc> TB root you need it, otherwise no
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3706 [21:47:07] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my
laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out
tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software
side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service
isnt working properly
3707 [21:47:41] <geoja> petemc: If this message was for me, I
didn't get it.
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3710 [21:49:05] <petemc> bios can only address volumes less than
2TB, if you want larger usae efi or add a 1MB biosboot partition
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3712 [21:49:28] <petemc> if this doesnt make sense to you, use
bios
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3714 [21:49:46] <geoja> Oh well this laptop has an ssd inside that
is certainly not 2TB
3715 [21:49:51] <geoja> certainly less :).
3716 [21:50:06] <petemc> all good then :)
3717 [21:50:16] <geoja> But still, I'm wondering what is
causing this. How could I go about troubleshooting this?
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3719 [21:50:23] <geoja> Maybe there is some logs somewhere?
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3722 [21:50:44] <D3stiny_> Hi
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3730 [21:52:03] <D3stiny_> I just installed mysql-server
mysql-client and mysql-common but, when I do "sudo -u root
-p" a message appeared and tell me "MariaDB monitor"
3731 [21:52:07] <petemc> geoja: it sounds like a low level
hardware communication issue
3732 [21:52:12] <D3stiny_> But, I never installed mariadb-server
3733 [21:52:17] <D3stiny_> Is this normal?
3734 [21:52:21] <greycat> mariadb replaced mysql in stretch
3735 [21:52:29] <D3stiny_> Ooooooh... okay okay
3736 [21:52:50] <D3stiny_> So, if I do "apt install
mysql-server" it will install mariadb-server ?
3737 [21:52:52] <D3stiny_> Thats it?
3738 [21:53:04] <D3stiny_> Sorry ahah, I'm not a pro
3739 [21:53:09] <annadane> indeed
3740 [21:53:13] <greycat> ,info mysql-server
3741 [21:53:14] <judd> Package mysql-server (database, optional)
in stretch/amd64: MySQL database server binaries and system database
setup [transitional]. Version: 5.5.9999+default; Size: 1.7k;
Installed: 8k
3742 [21:53:37] <greycat> "transitional" -- probably too
subtle, was hoping for something a bit more explicit there
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3744 [21:54:31] <greycat> ,depends default-mysql-server
3745 [21:54:32] <judd> Package default-mysql-server in
stretch/amd64 -- depends: mariadb-server-10.1.
3746 [21:54:46] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my
laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out
tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software
side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service
isnt working properly
3747 [21:54:50] <D3stiny_> Okaaaay
3748 [21:54:57] <D3stiny_> So its a dependance, thats it?
3749 [21:55:10] <D3stiny_> Thanks guys, and sorry for stealing ur
time
3750 [21:55:22] <annadane> not at all. we're here
specifically for this kind of thing
3751 [21:55:35] <annadane> also because some of us are addicted to
irc but anyway...
3752 [21:56:21] <geoja> petemc: Yes, it is weird, horizonral lines
are displayed properly thought. Only the vertical ones are all
tilted..
3753 [21:56:31] <geoja> Anyways, bios it is then :(.
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3760 [21:58:18] <geoja> petemc: UEFI with GCM looks fine though.
3761 [21:58:31] <petemc> i dont know what that is
3762 [21:58:44] <geoja> Was it "GCM"? Maybe
"GMS".. I forgot the acronym..
3763 [21:58:50] <geoja> Something called hybrid uefi
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3766 [21:59:50] <annadane> OtakuSenpai, and if nobody does answer
you here you can also try the mailing list:
debian-user@lists.debian.org
3767 [22:00:04] <OtakuSenpai> :C
3768 [22:00:19] <petemc> geoja: does the "tilting" occur
before debian boots?
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3772 [22:01:47] <geoja> petemc: Nope, after. Actually, I have the
first screen, the grub menu, displayed correctly.
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3774 [22:02:04] <petemc> huh
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3776 [22:02:23] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my
laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out
tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software
side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service
isnt working properly
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3779 [22:03:15] <petemc> geoja: then it doesnt sound like
hardware, sorry
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3788 [22:07:12] <geoja> petemc: Hmm, I'm not sure I can solve
it myself anyway :(.
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3790 [22:07:33] <petemc> you solved it already, bios works
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3793 [22:08:29] <geoja> Oh, CSM was the acronym.
3794 [22:08:51] <geoja> Well, it does boot, but I still don't
get what went wrong.
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3797 [22:10:09] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my
laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out
tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software
side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service
isnt working properly
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3804 [22:14:48] <mete> any good advice guy, I would like to
upgrade one of my last systems from debian 8 to 9, but I would like
to prevent 'upgrading' mysql to mariaDB, is there any easy
solution for this?
3805 [22:15:06] <greycat> why?
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3808 [22:15:48] <TyrfingMjolnir> Is there a script that can be run
to write down everything that is available of hardware on a PC I
randomly boot?
3809 [22:15:52] <TyrfingMjolnir> Preforably a rescue boot of some
sorts.
3810 [22:16:00] <annadane> mariadb as far as i know has identical
functionality to mysql, it's just a fork not owned by oracle
3811 [22:16:02] <mete> because mariaDB is in this specific case
slower in answering queries than mysql is, unfortunately
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3816 [22:19:12] <greycat> well, that sounds like a problem you
really ought to sort out in the mariadb configs... but... looks like
you can blacklist a package in /etc/apt/preferences according to
replaced-url
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3819 [22:19:57] <mete> thanks greycat, will clone the VM and try
it out :)
3820 [22:20:42] <mete> it seems simply, that mriaDB is slower for
min/max/avg queries over many records...
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3823 [22:21:11] <mete> as each query is single threaded, and the
whole CPU core is busy, there I think isn't much to optimize
3824 [22:21:11] <greycat> compared to the same version of mysql?
or compared to an older version?
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3827 [22:21:36] <mete> mysql is and older one
3828 [22:21:48] <mete> but even the newest mysql is still a bit
faster, 5-10%
3829 [22:21:54] <mete> even tried percona...
3830 [22:22:45] <umbrellawet> ccs?
3831 [22:23:24] <umbrellawet> here creditcard?
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3841 [22:29:59] <OtakuSenpai> yesterday i had a talk about my
laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out
tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software
side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service
isnt working properly
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3868 [22:48:14] <dutchfish> OtakuSenpai, thats 2 questions? maybe
for the first one, have a look at fancontrol if your bios doesnt
support that in acpi. The second question might be that in stable on
some systems systemd doesnt quiet get cgroups see:
replaced-url
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3871 [22:49:21] <dutchfish> OtakuSenpai, assuming you are trying
to start a container like lxc
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3920 [23:16:05] <l0gic__> does debian support athos10k?
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3925 [23:19:20] <Tom_-> i don't know, have you checked
duckduckgo.com/google? and wiki.debian.org
3926 [23:19:27] <Tom_-> sounds like it probably does
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3930 [23:20:22] <abrotman> dpkg: ath10k
3931 [23:20:22] <dpkg> ath10k is a Linux kernel driver supporting
PCIe 802.11ac (a/b/g/n compatible) wireless LAN devices based on the
Qualcomm Atheros QCA988x 2.0 family of chips (PCI IDs 168c:003c,
168c:abcd). Introduced at Linux 3.11. Firmware from userspace is
required and not currently packaged (bug #724970), ask me about
<ath10k firmware>.
replaced-url
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3935 [23:23:47] <foul_owl> Anyone know of a clipboard manager that
allows you to stick entries?
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3963 [23:32:18] <Emil> so umm
3964 [23:32:28] <Emil> deluser --remove-all-files is broken on
debian
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3966 [23:33:06] <annadane> stable? and broken how
3967 [23:33:13] <l0gic__> dpkg: athos10k firmware
3968 [23:33:14] <dpkg> l0gic__: parse error: dunno what the heck
you're talking about
3969 [23:33:26] <l0gic__> dpkg: ath10k firmware
3970 [23:33:27] <dpkg> Firmware required by the <ath10k>
driver is currently not available from the <linux-firmware>
repository. See
replaced-url
3971 [23:33:28] <Emil> annadane: 9.4 stable yeah, requires package
perl-modules but that does not exist
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3973 [23:33:40] <Emil> annadane: it suggests perl-base
3974 [23:33:44] <Emil> but that's already installed
3975 [23:33:45] <annadane> uhhhhh
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3977 [23:33:50] <annadane> that... is weird
3978 [23:34:15] <Emil> it's particularly the
--remove-all-files that's broken
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3983 [23:36:14] <hypn0>
replaced-url
3984 [23:36:21] <Emil> oh could be
3985 [23:36:22] <Emil> that
3986 [23:36:32] <annadane> yeah, that's the default
3987 [23:36:33] <l0gic__> so i guess my firmware i need is in
backports, how would i go about getting it?
3988 [23:36:48] <annadane> i know that because it constantly
showed up in my autoremove after an upgrade of stable > sid
3989 [23:37:08] <Emil> yeah lol forgot the apt-get update
3990 [23:37:19] <annadane> you're silly. :)
3991 [23:37:28] <Emil> it could suggest that though
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3999 [23:45:27] <Dirkson> Hey all. Having an issue with
python3-distutils 3.6.5-1 and libpython3.6-stdlib 3.6.5-1 both
trying to overwrite the same file. How do I tell apt "No, just
remove these, stop trying to fix this impossible situation"?
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4004 [23:47:16] <garries> my newly ungraded debian9 doesnt boot
up. here is the screen it hangs on
replaced-url
4005 [23:48:32] <annadane> Dirkson, so first off, you're
using testing/sid; the channel for that for future reference is
#debian-next on irc.oftc.net; second,
replaced-url
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4007 [23:49:24] <annadane> i get that you're asking "how
do i tell apt this" and not "why is this happening"
but yeah, #debian-next on oftc is the right channel for that
4008 [23:50:07] <annadane> Dirkson, message 19 provides one
user's solution:
replaced-url
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4014 [23:51:13] <annadane> sorry,
replaced-url
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