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• 3[00:01:04] <mtndew> I'm trying to setup a preseed file and going through debconf, but it's stopping on a particular question, how do I know the name of the question?
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• 5[00:01:36] <mtndew> I tried doing a full install, then doing a debconf-get-selections --install > file && debconf-get-selections >> file
• 6[00:01:40] <mtndew> but that preseed didn't work
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• 8[00:02:46] <RebelCoder> Guys, anyone using E-Mail client in Debian ? Like Evolution for example ?
• 9[00:03:18] <RebelCoder> I have tried 5 diff. clients and none of them work. Tried 3 different e-mails on different servers and nothing works.
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• 11[00:03:43] <RebelCoder> Keeps saying - wrong password even though it is not. On all clients...
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• 13[00:03:48] <pencilandpaper> I'm using Claws Mail RebelCoder. It works just fine for me.
• 14[00:03:50] <RebelCoder> anyone encountered that ?
• 15[00:03:57] <RebelCoder> Tried that too...
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• 17[00:03:58] <RebelCoder> strange
• 18[00:03:59] <pencilandpaper> What do you have installed right now RebelCoder?
• 19[00:04:13] <RebelCoder> Claw, Evolution, KMail
• 20[00:04:24] <mtndew> RebelCoder: gmail?
• 21[00:04:39] <RebelCoder> Tried 3 diff. Gmail, yandedx, mail.ru
• 22[00:04:42] <datu> what is the difference between running aptosid/siduction instead of just debian unstable?
• 23[00:04:44] <RebelCoder> none of them work,
• 24[00:04:44] <pencilandpaper> Ok, go to Claws Mail and open it up and tell me when you have done that please.
• 25[00:05:12] <mtndew> the hell is aptosid
• 26[00:05:28] <datu> aka sidux
• 27[00:05:33] <pencilandpaper> What do you mean mtndew?
• 28[00:05:42] <themill> RebelCoder: wrong keyboard layout?
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• 30[00:06:03] <RebelCoder> Nah.. al lthe basics rulled out
• 31[00:06:09] <RebelCoder> did it for 2 days now....
• 32[00:06:19] <RebelCoder> pencilandpaper, I have fresh Claws opened
• 33[00:06:59] <pencilandpaper> Ok cool RebelCoder, now go to Configuration, Create new Account, and tell me when you are there please RebelCoder.
• 34[00:07:09] <RebelCoder> there
• 35[00:07:25] <mtndew> my bet is network
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• 39[00:07:53] <RebelCoder> pencilandpaper, there
• 40[00:08:36] <mtndew> oh, aptosid isn't sid, I googled it, it's a debian derivative
• 41[00:08:45] <mtndew> that's like saying debian vs ubuntu
• 42[00:08:49] <pencilandpaper> Ok, now enter the name of your account RebelCoder, Enter your Full name field, as well as your mail address, for Server information choose IMAP and tell me when you are at that point please RebelCoder.
• 43[00:09:02] <RebelCoder> There
• 44[00:09:05] <mtndew> someone doesn't want you doing 993 outbound
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• 46[00:09:10] <pencilandpaper> Its basically sid, but updates are held for you mtndew.
• 47[00:09:39] <RebelCoder> imap.gmail.com
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• 49[00:09:41] <RebelCoder> smtp.gmail.com
• 50[00:09:56] <RebelCoder> Yeah, it detected automatically...
• 51[00:10:01] <mtndew> if you have 2FA you will need a separate 16 letter password
• 52[00:10:02] <RebelCoder> I did all that before many times..
• 53[00:10:03] <pencilandpaper> No RebelCoder, its imap.mail.gmail.com smtp.mail.gmail.com
• 54[00:10:36] <mtndew> do you use 2FA?
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• 57[00:11:30] <pencilandpaper> Did that work for you RebelCoder?
• 58[00:11:42] <RebelCoder> not yet...
• 59[00:11:44] <RebelCoder> trying...
• 60[00:11:54] <pencilandpaper> Ok cool, hopefully that works for you.
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• 128[00:48:01] <mtndew> so no one knows anything about debconf
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• 131[00:49:46] <wald0> jhutchins: yeah i can understand but i have some scripts that uses "lshal" to detect hardware details like model, serial, capabilities... etc
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• 138[00:53:38] <AirPlanes> mtndew, ?
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• 141[00:54:12] <mtndew> AirPlanes: trying to figure out how to make this preseed work
• 142[00:54:28] <mtndew> keeps hanging on a particular part of lvm partitioning when asking for confirmation
• 143[00:54:29] <AirPlanes> what?
• 144[00:54:33] <AirPlanes> oh
• 145[00:54:38] <AirPlanes> what is the question?
• 146[00:54:45] <mtndew> one sec
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• 151[00:56:51] <mtndew> AirPlanes: I'm letting it get to the error again, using packer...
• 152[00:57:28] <AirPlanes> what are you trying emm?
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• 157[01:00:14] <mtndew> partition disks
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• 159[01:00:35] <AirPlanes> not my skills but be careful!
• 160[01:00:42] <mtndew> before the logical volume manager can be configured...blah blah blah
• 161[01:00:54] <mtndew> write the changes to disks and configure lvm? yes | no
• 162[01:01:15] <AirPlanes> wait
• 163[01:01:23] <AirPlanes> you are installing debian right?
• 164[01:01:25] <mtndew> I already have d-i partman-lvm/confirm boolean true
• 165[01:02:02] <AirPlanes> Join to OFTC irc server and then join to #debian channel you will get support!
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• 167[01:02:25] <mtndew> what
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• 193[01:11:50] <tremon> mtndew: you might want to add DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 to the installer kernel command line to help. It will log the actual variables it's asking for to tty4
• 194[01:12:10] <mtndew> no kidding
• 195[01:12:14] <mtndew> I'll do that right now...
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• 197[01:13:25] <tremon> btw I also have d-i partman/confirm_nooverwrite boolean true in my preseed
• 198[01:13:58] <tremon> I haven't used my preseed since wheezy though
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• 244[01:44:14] <veggi3s0> i couldn't get the high resolution while using my skyliake integrated graphics in jessie so i dist-upgraded to stretch. any of you use stretch? is there like email lists you subscribe to and cron jobs to do upgrades, what day of the week is the updates for the version ,i would liek to do this properly since it is a test release
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• 250[01:46:06] <mtndew> tremon: you're a genius, I'm actually going one by one with packer now and just adding line by line my preseed based on what's going on and then killing the packer and restarting the packer job and watching it progress one step further each time, I have a lot of confidence it's actually going to work this time, thank you
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• 252[01:46:45] <tremon> lol, you're welcome :)
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• 290[02:04:04] <tremon> nokt: yes, but if you only need it once it's easier to just set it on the command line: sudo ip addr add w.x.y.z/24 dev eth0
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• 308[02:17:37] <Stevie-O> hello
• 309[02:17:50] <bezaban> o/
• 310[02:17:59] <Stevie-O> something has gone wrong with one of my Debian machines and systemd is asking for the root password for maintenance
• 311[02:18:24] <Stevie-O> unfortunately, I set this machine up years ago and have no idea what the root password is
• 312[02:19:02] <Stevie-O> and init=/bin/sh or init=/bin/bash seems to be a non-starter, because it boots to a prompt, complains about not being able to access the tty, and I can't type
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• 314[02:19:15] <bezaban> hurray. I'm afraid I'm not sure I've done this with systemd, but you might be able to do it the old way... oh
• 315[02:19:28] <Stevie-O> Yeah :(
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• 318[02:19:52] <tremon> are you booting without initramfs?
• 319[02:19:57] <Stevie-O> uh
• 320[02:20:00] <Stevie-O> I don't think so?
• 321[02:20:14] <Stevie-O> I just tacked on 'init=/bin/bash' after the 'ro quiet' line in grub
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• 323[02:20:31] <tremon> I can't think of another reason why it couldn't access the tty
• 324[02:20:37] <maurer> Stevie-O: So, this is not the "right way" to do it, but the easiest way may be to boot another linux boot media, chroot into your debian system, then run passwd
• 325[02:20:47] <bezaban> you could always boot some live distro and change /etc/shadow
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• 327[02:21:02] <Stevie-O> yeah, I don't have any such thing handy and was hoping to avoid that
• 328[02:21:04] <bezaban> or as maurer suggests
• 329[02:21:29] <tremon> there's another way out then: use break=init to drop to a shell in the initramfs, and chroot from there
• 330[02:21:39] <Stevie-O> break=init ?
• 331[02:21:51] * Stevie-O tries
• 332[02:21:55] <Stevie-O> hold on, dog wants to go out
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• 334[02:22:08] <tremon> lemme check, not sure of the exact breakpoint
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• 336[02:22:24] <Stevie-O> /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off
• 337[02:22:28] <Stevie-O> and typing does nothing
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• 339[02:22:43] <tremon> usb keyboard?
• 340[02:22:55] <tremon> the job control is just a warning, not an error
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• 342[02:23:30] <tremon> if you don't have the usb modules in the initramfs, usb keyboards won't work until the boot is quite far along
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• 344[02:24:03] <tremon> that also rules out the initramfs escape, and alternate boot/rescue media is your best option
• 345[02:24:14] <jmcnaught> Stevie-O: you can also try adding "systemd.debug-shell" to the boot parameters, which should give you a root shell on tty9 during early boot
• 346[02:24:58] <Stevie-O> ah
• 347[02:25:04] <Stevie-O> yeah, it's a usb keyboard >:(
• 348[02:25:10] <Stevie-O> okay imma have to run some errands then
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• 350[02:25:14] <tremon> (just for the record, break=init would indeed be correct)
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• 354[02:25:50] <tremon> (at that point in the boot, the real root would be mounted at /root, not /)
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• 356[02:25:56] <maurer> Does anyone know if it's possible to convince xterm/urxvt/some other similar no-frills terminal to use two fonts, one as a fallback font?
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• 358[02:26:12] <maurer> I'm editing a file with a lot of unicode, and Source Code Pro doesn't have all the codepoints mapped
• 359[02:26:26] <maurer> Unifont does, but is really ugly
• 360[02:26:38] <maurer> I'd like to have my terminal use SCP if the codepoint is present, and Unifont otherwise
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• 369[02:31:00] <maurer> Uh, nevermind, I figured it out. In case this shows up in a log search later, the answer is that you can comma separate your font list in your .Xdefaults file
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• 432[03:17:16] <AlexLikeRock> hi
• 433[03:17:28] <AlexLikeRock> what e-mail can use with TOR ?
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• 447[03:23:29] <awal1> AlexLikeRock, caring about privacy/security? Create your own mail server :P
• 448[03:23:51] <dvs> be a Hilary!
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• 450[03:24:00] <AlexLikeRock> no awal1
• 451[03:24:16] <awal1> or use hotmail/microsoft live :D :P
• 452[03:24:17] * ZeuxBlack is back from: $null - was away for: 2427wks 2days 24mins 28secs
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• 455[03:24:54] <TomTomTosch> ZeuxBlack: that script of yours running every day now?
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• 467[03:29:35] <awal1> AlexLikeRock, I guess people uses Tor because of privacy, security and anonymousness. But if you run tor but you will use google, yahoo, microsoft live... and adobe flash, pepperflash ..., for example, so anonymoussness = 0
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• 469[03:31:39] <awal1> not sure about html5 (multimedia contents), if it uses tracking cookies and similar stuff
• 470[03:32:00] <TomTomTosch> which the tor browser blocks.
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• 472[03:32:20] <awal1> right
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• 474[03:33:50] <TomTomTosch> the problem with those providers mentioned above is that they make you leave either your phone number or a second email address. there are a few which don't, you will find them with a quick search.
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• 478[03:36:11] <frg> hi - is there a way in the debian expert graphical install to install grub to /sda3 rather than the default /sda?
• 479[03:36:12] <awal1> if found, it will be an unsolvable truthfulness problematic...
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• 481[03:37:03] <TomTomTosch> you are not meant to put personal information on that, obviously.
• 482[03:37:39] <frg> having some recurring efi/bootloader issues... thanks
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• 484[03:38:26] <awal1> frg, with standard install the installer ask you where you want the grub, i believe expert mode does too; thats EXPERT MODE
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• 487[03:40:24] <frg> hmm, i'm using the dvd on usb, do you mean the cd installer?
• 488[03:41:02] <frg> the dvd definitely does not ask - nor does the expert graphical
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• 491[03:41:56] <awal1> havent have to use expert mode bcoz of x reason, so no clue, sorry
• 492[03:42:06] <frg> i mean, it asks to install or skip near the end after everything else is installed - but no other options
• 493[03:42:14] <awal1> I haven't had ^
• 494[03:42:56] <frg> ok - so the automated install will ask where to install grub?
• 495[03:43:09] <awal1> yeah
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• 498[03:43:56] <frg> hmm - i thought i tried that... and it just auto installs to /sda
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• 501[03:44:55] <frg> it used to work, but the newer grub with 8.5 is giving me problems
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• 504[03:45:33] <awal1> you will have 2 options when in grub-install step: /dev/sda or "...manually...", I dont rember the exact sentence; also I I always used sda, so no clue what happens if you choose manual
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• 506[03:45:54] <frg> but thanks for the info
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• 508[03:47:21] <frg> ok - are you refering to the non-graphical auto debian installer?
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• 510[03:47:42] <awal1> frg, the expert mode should have more option then the automated one, that's why it's called expert
• 511[03:48:04] <awal1> both graphical and text modes will offer you that choice
• 512[03:48:26] <frg> thank you, i presumed as much, but theres no such options there
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• 514[03:49:09] <awal1> I usually use netinst cd, and it does
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• 516[03:49:32] <frg> oh, ok
• 517[03:49:34] <awal1> all the time playing with debian installs in VM's , so no doubt
• 518[03:50:18] <awal1> frg, talking about debian iso's , right?
• 519[03:50:59] <frg> well, i'll give that a try - it will at least fail quicker if it doesnt work for me - ha
• 520[03:51:46] <frg> yes, 8.5 dvd1
• 521[03:52:48] <frg> both auto graphical and expert graphical have only two grub options - install to /sda or skip
• 522[03:53:03] <awal1> with minimal install (no DE), you reach that step in 10/15 minutes
• 523[03:53:12] <awal1> no clue about dvd iso
• 524[03:53:22] <awal1> try netinst
• 525[03:54:15] <awal1> shouldn't be different in that feature, I believe
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• 527[03:55:02] <awal1> the installer, the technical side is the same no matters which iso you choose; the difference is the content
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• 531[03:57:27] <frg> ok nice -
• 532[03:57:28] <frg> just one quick question (the reason i didnt keep netinst before)
• 533[03:57:28] <frg> a game, 0ad appeared red in synaptic with the netinst base - how would i fix that?
• 534[03:57:30] <frg> i assume missing underlying dependencies?
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• 536[03:57:36] <awal1> windows needs 3 or 5 hours for finish the install and around 24/48 hours for updates (pack 1, 2 ...)
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• 549[04:06:35] <AlexLikeRock2> whow to make a email by browser tor
• 550[04:06:37] <AlexLikeRock2> ??
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• 555[04:10:23] <markybob> !tell AlexLikeRock2 about es
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• 579[04:23:27] <awal1> AlexLikeRock2, what you want exactly?
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• 581[04:25:54] <awal1> if you want to be anonymous, create your own mail server if you know how; if you want send recieve e.mails search for mail servers which doesn't require javascripts, which doesn't use tracking/persistent cookies and similar stuff
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• 586[04:27:49] <awal1> anonymousness is hard, very hard to achieve really
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• 593[04:31:32] <awal1> AlexLikeRock2, start with replaced-url
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• 597[04:32:32] <AlexLikeRock2> i done
• 598[04:32:34] <AlexLikeRock2> i make
• 599[04:32:36] <AlexLikeRock2> tanks
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• 666[05:04:45] <TurBoss> Hi
• 667[05:05:05] <TurBoss> I'm on debian Jessie and i'm trying to install zoneminder from backports
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• 669[05:06:26] <TurBoss> on aan it tells that libpam-systemd has no candidate
• 670[05:06:35] <TurBoss> is a fresh install
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• 690[05:20:19] <kuldeep> Hello, anyone would like to be a mantainer for our not-for-profit softwares (Data Acquisition - Scientific Software). you can know about us at replaced-url
• 691[05:20:49] <kuldeep> *not-for-profit organisation softwares
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• 693[05:21:24] <kuldeep> and all hardware design are also under GNU GPLv3+ (Open Hardware)
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• 695[05:23:22] <Stevie-O> gah
• 696[05:23:26] <Stevie-O> I can't get a freaking usb stick to boot
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• 711[05:29:21] <kuldeep> Stevie-O, boot configuration ok?
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• 713[05:29:40] <Stevie-O> not sure what you're referring to
• 714[05:29:43] <kuldeep> BIOS or whatever you have
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• 716[05:29:54] <Stevie-O> I have no reason to believe it's not
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• 719[05:31:16] <kuldeep> Stevie-O, at boot time, you could press <special-key-as-per-your-hardware> to give you a list of bootable medium
• 720[05:31:29] <Stevie-O> yes, I'm doing that
• 721[05:31:34] <kuldeep> usually F12 F2 etc..
• 722[05:31:37] <Stevie-O> the problem is that I keep getting boot errors
• 723[05:31:43] <Stevie-O> (F11 on ASRock BIOS)
• 724[05:32:07] <kuldeep> Stevie-O, boot errors? (kernel)?
• 725[05:32:17] <Stevie-O> I have tried three different ways so far
• 726[05:32:35] <Stevie-O> (1) UUI (2) UNetBootIn (3) Rawrite32
• 727[05:32:56] <Stevie-O> pulling down a fresh Debian Live image for next test
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• 739[05:37:15] <Stevie-O> okay, newest live image seems to be working
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• 748[05:41:14] <Stevie-O> well this isn't good
• 749[05:41:26] <Stevie-O> lvm2 postinst is hanging
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• 752[05:42:23] <Stevie-O> what the hell is wrong with this machine? :(
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• 839[06:32:45] <prototron> hell
• 840[06:32:46] <prototron> hello
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• 844[06:34:05] <prototron> Hey I am trying to mount my NFS share with specific user/group ownership but I can't get it to work
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• 849[06:36:06] <prototron> i user fstab to mount it
• 850[06:36:11] <prototron> i use *
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• 864[06:45:00] <veggi3s0> any of you use Stretch instead of jessie version?
• 865[06:45:08] <veggi3s0> i just started using stretch today
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• 871[06:47:31] <borei> hi all
• 872[06:47:55] <borei> i have qestion about multiboot USB drive(hdd or flash)
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• 874[06:48:18] <borei> i created it for debian, once there were only one ISO everything were working ok
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• 877[06:48:47] <borei> i added ubuntu 16, and now debian installed is picking ubuntu 16 iso
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• 879[06:49:34] <borei> in the log i see that it's trying debian iso, detecting it as jessiw, but finally picking ubuntu
• 880[06:50:02] <borei> any idea about it ?
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• 892[06:57:12] <zykotick9> veggi3s0: try #debian-next on the OFTC network, you'll find testing/unstable users there.
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• 909[07:07:17] <jaggz> how do I update specific packages, which may not be manually installed (but may be dependencies)?
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• 940[07:28:46] <Pwnna> not sure if this is the right place to ask but i figure i'd give it a shot: is there a way to use overlayfs but exclude one path in the merged path?
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• 942[07:29:23] <Pwnna> so lower => /srv/base-image, upper => /srv/upper, merged => /srv/combined, and then /srv/combined/data is mount to /dev/sdb or something like that
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• 949[07:36:13] <MaBunny> does ubuntu hav a pip command?
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• 955[07:39:52] <imr> MaBunny: yes, it should. If it isn't installed just install python-pip or python3-pip from apt-get
• 956[07:40:38] <MaBunny> ok i just found tht debian has it too
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• 958[07:41:24] <borei> solved
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• 964[07:50:22] <plasmoduck> How can I show the motd at the login screen before I login?
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• 966[07:50:42] <plasmoduck> or some kind of msg
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• 998[08:17:58] <Pwnna> what's a "secure" way to get jessie backport stuff?
• 999[08:18:02] <Pwnna> like i want to upgrade the kernel
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• 1001[08:19:35] <stephanie92> O-o
• 1002[08:20:01] <stephanie92> Pwnna: Just add the backports repo to your sources.list - update and then install whichever backported kernel you please.
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• 1004[08:20:24] <Pwnna> stephanie92: i see the current latest in bp is like linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
• 1005[08:20:36] <Pwnna> but linux-image-amd64 is not pointed to that
• 1006[08:20:46] <Pwnna> so if there's an update to the linux-image in backports i won't get it unless i default to it
• 1007[08:21:02] <Pwnna> unless linux-image-amd64 defaults to bp****8
• 1008[08:21:05] <Pwnna> does that make sense?
• 1009[08:21:25] <stephanie92> linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64
• 1010[08:21:28] <stephanie92> that is the one you want
• 1011[08:21:36] <stephanie92> if you want the latest one, that is
• 1012[08:21:39] <Pwnna> rt?
• 1013[08:21:52] <jim> realtime
• 1014[08:22:03] <Pwnna> i don't need realtime stuff?
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• 1016[08:22:17] <jim> ok
• 1017[08:22:24] <Pwnna> my problem is let's say if jessie-backports gets a security update or something for 4.6
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• 1020[08:22:44] <Pwnna> since linux kernel images are packaged per version.. and i'm explicitly installing linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
• 1021[08:22:50] <Pwnna> i will not get 4.6.1 or something
• 1022[08:22:53] <Pwnna> does that make sense?
• 1023[08:22:59] <jim> you could try apt-cache search linux-image to see what'e there
• 1024[08:23:00] <stephanie92> jim$: lmao
• 1025[08:23:17] <Pwnna> yeah i looked around and i don't see a meta package from backports that points to the latest backported version :/
• 1026[08:23:26] <stephanie92> Pwnna: if there is an upgrade for your kernel, it will upgrade when you apt-get update/upgrade
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• 1028[08:23:37] <Pwnna> how would it know?
• 1029[08:23:47] <stephanie92> Pwnna: because that's the way the package manager works.
• 1030[08:23:53] <stephanie92> by-design
• 1031[08:24:03] <stephanie92> it would be a pretty shitty package manager if it didn't
• 1032[08:24:09] <Pwnna> that implies that the package maintainer needs to update linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
• 1033[08:24:14] <Pwnna> rather than releasing linux-image-4.6.1-0.bpo.1-amd64
• 1034[08:24:22] <Pwnna> and use meta packages to update the dependency
• 1035[08:24:29] <Pwnna> which is what traditionally debian packages for the kernel does
• 1036[08:24:38] <stephanie92> yep
• 1037[08:24:40] <Pwnna> except for backports, there's no meta package that points to the backported linux kernel
• 1038[08:24:42] <stephanie92> so no worries
• 1039[08:24:43] <Pwnna> afaict
• 1040[08:24:59] <stephanie92> Pwnna: it will auto update, trust
• 1041[08:25:00] <Pwnna> which means, if a new version of kernel comes out, nothing will update unless the maintainer only updates linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
• 1042[08:25:09] <Pwnna> how do i verify that?
• 1043[08:25:25] <stephanie92> Pwnna: idk, do i look like google? xD
• 1044[08:25:50] <stephanie92> Pwnna: But i've had updates pushed out to my back ported kernels O_o
• 1045[08:25:53] <Pwnna> afaik, from the years i've worked with this stuff, it doesn't autoupdate.
• 1046[08:26:06] <stephanie92> If you say so >.> but it does for me
• 1047[08:26:11] <stephanie92> maybe it just likes me better ;)
• 1048[08:26:18] <Pwnna> .. oh
• 1049[08:26:22] <Pwnna> i missed this somehow
• 1050[08:26:23] <Pwnna> replaced-url
• 1051[08:26:38] * Pwnna facepalms.
• 1052[08:26:54] <Pwnna> i swear i was looking for that earlier and i couldn't find it
• 1053[08:26:59] <stephanie92> Pwnna: lmaooo
• 1054[08:27:44] <Pwnna> stephanie92: so both of us are correct. if i installed just linux-image-4.6.0... it will not autoupdate.. i was under the impression that linux-image-amd64 didn't exist on backport from like an hour of fiddling earlier
• 1055[08:28:03] <stephanie92> Pwnna: Ah, i see :)
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• 1057[08:28:36] <Pwnna> i think i was looking in wheezy-backports earlier >_>
• 1058[08:28:48] <Pwnna> and i saw like 3.16 which looked like jessie's version
• 1059[08:28:58] <stephanie92> oh geez
• 1060[08:29:28] <stephanie92> brb
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• 1062[08:29:51] <Pwnna> anyhow thanks.
• 1063[08:29:57] <Pwnna> i was just dumb :\
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• 1070[08:35:30] <poeticrpm> im installing debian from an arch install. I want to make sure that initramfs is generated with the necessary bits to be able to unlock my luks partition. I have aes xts plain 64 encryption via luks on the device. do I need anything else besides 'xts' and 'aes_amd64' in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules?
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• 1072[08:36:23] <poeticrpm> i cant install debian stable from an install usb/cd since kernels prior to 3.2 have corruption issues on luks when using btrfs, so hence why im installing from arch
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• 1075[08:37:24] <poeticrpm> and i already know what I need on grub, how /etc/crpyttab and /etc/fstab are to be setup
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• 1077[08:38:10] <poeticrpm> on arch id add 'encrypt' to the modules line in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf, but debian is different. This is the first time installing debian on a luks partition
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• 1079[08:39:42] <archer121> I am having a wierd issue on this debian server. I am trying to assign it an ip of 192.168.240.9, which is free. But when I restart networking, I see a ipv6 address instead. But it is perfectly fine when I assign another ip (192.168.240.167). Both the IPs are not being used in any another machine. WHat could I be doing wrong?
• 1080[08:39:44] <archer121> I am assigning the ip by changing the address in /etc/network/interefaces and then restarting the 'networking' service.
• 1081[08:39:47] <poeticrpm> if anyone has an idea, ping me with a suggestion. Gonna crash- my client should log it
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• 1107[08:57:03] <xstation> how to start network mananger applet as root?
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• 1113[08:59:57] <xstation> cannot edit under manual and save unless network manager is root
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• 1119[09:06:24] <jaggz> anyone know an x11 clipboard that lets you copy into lettered buffers (kinda like vim)?
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• 1123[09:09:53] <MaBunny> theres a prog for copying terminal outputs/letters to a graphical program
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• 1125[09:10:29] <MaBunny> like echo "ddd...." > IDK
• 1126[09:10:33] <MaBunny> and paste
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• 1128[09:10:52] <MaBunny> IDK is the programs name...i dont remeber /cant
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• 1130[09:11:33] <poeticrpm> xstation, if you cannot edit network-manager unless root, you need to change permissions for something- NOT run the applet as root
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• 1132[09:11:48] <poeticrpm> bb
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• 1135[09:13:17] <MaBunny> use chown or chgrp
• 1136[09:13:37] <xstation> poeticrpm: i can edit ethernet under manual ipv4 but I cannot save the settings
• 1137[09:14:01] <xstation> the save button is grayed out
• 1138[09:15:01] <poeticrpm> xstation, yeah and you should be able to. I havent had this problem with network manager, but I would aim my google searches at network manager and permissions to figure out what chown or chgrp command you need to run to have proper permissions- NOT run network manager itself as root
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• 1142[09:15:26] <poeticrpm> and actually, you should be looking for permissions related stuff on network-manager-applet
• 1143[09:15:32] <poeticrpm> but anyways
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• 1152[09:20:05] <Internope> Hello
• 1153[09:20:10] <Internope> I am trying to get my pi to connect to the Internet via Ethernet on my PC. I am using Raspbian Jessie.
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• 1156[09:20:53] <up2late> respond to the guy trying to help u in #raspberrypi
• 1157[09:21:26] <Internope> Alright, thanks I will check it out
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• 1161[09:25:09] <xstation> poeticrpm: ok will google see if anything comes up
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• 1188[09:47:34] <stephanie92> Anyone here have any experience with proxmox?
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• 1194[09:49:26] <babilen> dpkg: proxmox
• 1195[09:49:26] <dpkg> Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see ##replaced-url
• 1196[09:49:33] <babilen> stephanie92: Try their channel ^
• 1197[09:49:51] <stephanie92> >.> I know about their channel ;3
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• 1200[09:50:15] <babilen> I would expect people in there to be, at least vaguely, familiar with it
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• 1202[09:50:43] <stephanie92> babilen: The channel is dead as usual.
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• 1214[09:57:49] <jackbrown> anyone an help me with grub ?
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• 1217[09:59:18] <babilen> Depends on your problem, I guess
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• 1228[10:09:53] <Bonn333> Hi
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• 1246[10:22:19] <blawiz> is there a software that is good at analysing security images to determine if there is some actual movement/difference between pics (my camera reacts to changes in light from the sun/clouds)
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• 1254[10:25:28] <rozie> blawiz: program name is motion, and you are lookin for "motion detection linux"
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• 1256[10:25:47] <rozie> replaced-url
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• 1264[10:32:15] <blawiz> ty rozie o/
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• 1268[10:33:33] <cuqa> hello, I have installed Debian 8 with netinstaller and did the network configuration in /etc/network/interfaces but when rebooting there is no default gateway being set
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• 1274[10:34:49] <blawiz> rozie: but it can be used on images stored on the computer? (my webcam sends them to my by email, from my office)
• 1275[10:35:04] <blawiz> its a standalone security camera
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• 1277[10:37:39] <babilen> cuqa: Might help if you were to paste your /e/n/i somewhere
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• 1279[10:38:00] <babilen> (not pastebin.com)
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• 1298[10:44:25] <cuqa> babilen: replaced-url
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• 1302[10:44:46] <cuqa> the ip configuration does work, only the default route is not being set
• 1303[10:45:18] <cuqa> I can ping the gateway, but nothing behind .. until I do: route add default gateway 192.168.0.1 dev eth0
• 1304[10:45:40] <teraflops> cuqa: mind pasting the output of `ip route show` too?
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• 1307[10:48:18] <babilen> Anything in /etc/network/interfaces.d ?
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• 1328[11:02:21] <jmd> I've inadvertently overwritten my /etc/fstab How can I recover it?
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• 1339[11:09:02] <hexnewbie> jmd: You have no backup anywhere?
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• 1344[11:10:01] <hexnewbie> jmd: If you're familiar with how to create an fstab file, you can pick the lines from /etc/mtab (or /proc/mounts) that seem relevant, fix them, and use them as fstab.
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• 1356[11:18:17] <jmd> hexnewbie: ok I'll try to gleem the info from /etc/mtab
• 1357[11:18:19] <jmd> Thanks
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• 1392[11:33:38] <buruma> I'm trying to disable wakeup by usb, by editing /proc/acpi/wakeup. But each time I save the file, it immediately gets reverted to the file before editing it. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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• 1406[11:41:43] <jmd> In which /var/log/* file should remote mount requests be logged?
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• 1414[11:44:26] <hexnewbie> buruma: How are you editing /proc/acpi/wakeup?
• 1415[11:44:54] <buruma> hexnewbie: sudo emacs
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• 1417[11:46:12] <hexnewbie> buruma: /proc/acpi/wakeup is not a normal file (even though stat() says it's a regular one). Editing it with a text editor should fail with EINVAL, most likely.
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• 1419[11:47:42] <buruma> hexnewbie: is it possible to edit it by another method?
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• 1422[11:48:59] <hexnewbie> buruma: You can't edit it, but you can write things to it, with echo for example. But I am not familiar with the syntax. I know "echo DEVICE > /proc/acpi/wakeup" switches DEVICE to enabled status, but I don't know how to disable it.
• 1423[11:50:02] <hexnewbie> Perhaps "echo -DEVICE > ...", because other proc files operate that way, but I don't actually know if that's correct
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• 1427[11:51:08] <hexnewbie> buruma: Better find the device's "wakeup" file in /sys, and run "echo disabled > /sys/...device.../power/wakeup"
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• 1433[11:54:26] <buruma> hexnewbie: thanks, I'll try that
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• 1495[12:33:07] <marlinc> I'm trying to package a Fedora project for Debian but I'm stuck with a PAM service file. I'm not sure how to get it to work on Debian.
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• 1509[12:42:30] <jelly> marlinc: if you plan to upload to debian, ask in #debian-mentors over on irc.oftc.net
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• 1518[12:48:54] <marlinc> Thank you jelly
• 1519[12:49:23] <marlinc> Will do
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• 1532[12:59:42] <flog> Hi, i've got som issues with apt-get after adding repos for spotify. seems like spotify prohibits me from installing other software via apt.
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• 1542[13:04:54] <flog> replaced-url
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• 1546[13:05:47] <flog> any ideas?
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• 1559[13:11:35] <RebelCoder> flog, I remember coming across the article about Spotify on Debian..
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• 1562[13:12:15] <RebelCoder> flog, s now known as Guest97326
• 1563[13:12:26] <RebelCoder> upss..
• 1564[13:12:26] <RebelCoder> replaced-url
• 1565[13:12:28] <RebelCoder> This ?
• 1566[13:12:47] <flog> Ive seen that article too.
• 1567[13:13:21] <flog> The problem is that i cant remove spotify either.
• 1568[13:13:39] <RebelCoder> That is what you get when you install non-free software
• 1569[13:13:40] <RebelCoder> =)
• 1570[13:14:03] <flog> doh...
• 1571[13:14:36] <RebelCoder> have you tried - sudo apt-get --purge remove spotify*
• 1572[13:14:37] <RebelCoder> &
• 1573[13:14:39] <RebelCoder> ?
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• 1577[13:15:15] <flog> same as results as previous posted pastie
• 1578[13:15:16] <flog> :(
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• 1580[13:16:08] <RebelCoder> So you are just trying to remove it
• 1581[13:16:09] <RebelCoder> right ?
• 1582[13:16:11] <flog> yeah
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• 1584[13:16:52] <flog> since i cant install anything else...
• 1585[13:16:59] <flog> replaced-url
• 1586[13:17:30] <RebelCoder> ok, this seems to be Language problem then...
• 1587[13:17:42] <RebelCoder> Did you set your language other then ENG ?
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• 1589[13:18:21] <flog> Probably did, dont really remember to be honest. Im swedish but like my os in english. Like to be able to typ åäö though.
• 1590[13:18:36] <RebelCoder> This is a different thing...
• 1591[13:18:43] <RebelCoder> system is confused...
• 1592[13:18:48] <RebelCoder> let's try fixing it...
• 1593[13:19:07] <RebelCoder> can you try:
• 1594[13:19:11] <flog> Thanks! Havent been using linux for about 10 years. Cant remember everything...
• 1595[13:19:14] <RebelCoder> sudo locale-gen
• 1596[13:19:29] <flog> gen complete
• 1597[13:19:30] <RebelCoder> so it should re-generate languages
• 1598[13:19:38] <RebelCoder> try uninstall or install again ?
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• 1601[13:20:41] <RebelCoder> Result ?
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• 1603[13:20:51] <flog> seems like i actually got vsftpd installed earlier but I got confused by the spotify-client error that i got.
• 1604[13:21:07] <RebelCoder> so install works and no Language error ?
• 1605[13:21:09] <RebelCoder> Correct ?
• 1606[13:21:20] <flog> still getting language errors
• 1607[13:21:24] <flog> let me paste
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• 1609[13:21:52] <flog> replaced-url
• 1610[13:22:08] <jelly> those perl locale warnings may not be the cause of removal failure.
• 1611[13:22:26] <RebelCoder> maybe...
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• 1617[13:23:02] <RebelCoder> Try correcting Lang errors:
• 1618[13:23:07] <RebelCoder> sudo apt-get install locales-all
• 1619[13:23:10] <jelly> !locales
• 1620[13:23:10] <dpkg> Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. See also <mac locales>. replaced-url
• 1621[13:23:16] <RebelCoder> apt-get install locales --reinstall
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• 1623[13:23:27] <RebelCoder> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
• 1624[13:23:30] <jelly> there's no need to reinstall the locales package.
• 1625[13:23:32] <RebelCoder> all 3 comands with sudo
• 1626[13:23:54] <jelly> there's no need to install locales-all, either, but it's a viable alternative.
• 1627[13:24:45] <RebelCoder> flog, after all 3 commands, try Spotify again and let us see the output
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• 1629[13:25:04] <flog> no language errors anymore
• 1630[13:25:08] <RebelCoder> Cool.
• 1631[13:25:16] <RebelCoder> So Spotify output will be cleaner
• 1632[13:25:29] <flog> though uninstalling spotify-client still fails. But that's probably not related then.
• 1633[13:26:17] <RebelCoder> paste new output
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• 1635[13:26:41] <flog> replaced-url
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• 1639[13:26:53] <jelly> RebelCoder: if locales-all is installed, there's no reason to reinstall or dpkg-reconfigure "locales", because locales-all provides precompiled files for all the locales (hence the name)
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• 1644[13:28:14] <RebelCoder> Strange. Never seen this kind of error
• 1645[13:28:15] <RebelCoder> ....
• 1646[13:28:19] <flog> While where still at it with apt-get stuff, getting this when apt-get update: W: GPG error: replaced-url
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• 1649[13:28:42] <RebelCoder> That is OK as you did not add the PGP Key...
• 1650[13:28:45] <RebelCoder> just a warning...
• 1651[13:28:53] <RebelCoder> *GPG Key
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• 1653[13:28:57] <Rephlexie> can you install stuff?
• 1654[13:29:17] <flog> I can install stuff. I was tricked by the spotify-client errors.
• 1655[13:29:28] <Rephlexie> trying apt-get install xdg-utils
• 1656[13:29:29] <flog> I get that with everything i install.
• 1657[13:29:36] <Rephlexie> ahh
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• 1660[13:30:09] <flog> Rephlexie: that fixed the spotify warnings.
• 1661[13:30:27] <Rephlexie> nice, should be able to uninstall it now i think
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• 1664[13:31:05] <flog> I actually want to have spotify installed. But the whole thing with the spotify errors caused me to thing i needed to get rid of it.
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• 1666[13:31:44] <RebelCoder> flog,
• 1667[13:31:52] <flog> yeah?
• 1668[13:32:08] <RebelCoder> that GPG error is due you adding some software and NOT adding GPG key for it...
• 1669[13:32:15] <RebelCoder> See Second Step: replaced-url
• 1670[13:32:36] <RebelCoder> See how GPG is added to make sure software is original, not modified .
• 1671[13:33:00] <RebelCoder> This is for Spotify for example...
• 1672[13:33:00] <flog> I did add the key listed on spotifys official linux installation page.
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• 1678[13:35:25] <RebelCoder> can you try installing Spotify and force all packages again.....
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• 1681[13:35:57] <RebelCoder> sudo aptitude -f install spotyfy*
• 1682[13:36:22] <RebelCoder> See if you can get it REInstalled with force (-f)...
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• 1684[13:36:33] <RebelCoder> Any errors ?
• 1685[13:36:35] <flog> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
• 1686[13:37:04] <flog> Guess that means it's properly installed now.
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• 1688[13:37:32] <RebelCoder> BTW, does it work ?
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• 1690[13:38:20] <RebelCoder> sudo aptitude autoclean
• 1691[13:38:27] <RebelCoder> sudo aptitude purge spotify
• 1692[13:38:38] <flog> just a second
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• 1726[13:59:27] <flog> RebelCoder: getting spotify to run on my headless box will unfortunately have to wait. But thanks a lot for helping me with the apt errors.
• 1727[14:00:26] <RebelCoder> Cool
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• 1729[14:01:18] <flog> I was actually about to set up vsftpd when i encountered the spotify stuff. So Im back on doing that.
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• 1747[14:10:47] <teraflops> flog: setting up spotify in headless box? wasn't mopidy-spotify the way to go?
• 1748[14:11:13] <flog> teraflops: that would probably be a better idea.
• 1749[14:11:20] <flog> didnt know about that.
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• 1754[14:14:30] <teraflops> flog: tbh if you pay for it I prefer google play music over spotify, it also has better _headless_ support (mpd + gmusicproxy) and a better catalog
• 1755[14:15:14] <flog> teraflops: i've been a spotify-premium user for years. Due to work I need the offline mode using spotify.
• 1756[14:16:06] <teraflops> idk if mopidy-spotify supports offline mode
• 1757[14:16:23] <flog> i dont need the offline mode on this machine.
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• 1759[14:16:38] <flog> but the offline mode is one reason why i use spotify.
• 1760[14:16:43] <teraflops> then google play supports offline mode too e.g smartphone
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• 1762[14:17:18] <flog> I also like the play on remote client feature.
• 1763[14:17:31] <teraflops> flog: just saying I said it because i've premium user on both platforms and I already pay for google play music
• 1764[14:18:34] <teraflops> flog: if you do mpd you can stream whenever you want, either from mpd itself or just via wireless play from a smartphone
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• 1766[14:19:18] <teraflops> I'm just sharing my thoughts since I tested both platforms
• 1767[14:20:04] <flog> I see. Didnt mean to start a flameware on music services ^^
• 1768[14:20:09] <flog> *flame war
• 1769[14:20:26] <teraflops> neither me :P
• 1770[14:20:52] <teraflops> use whatever suits you best is what I think
• 1771[14:20:56] <flog> Anyway the intel nuc is a cute little machine.
• 1772[14:21:02] <teraflops> indeed
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• 1777[14:21:48] <flog> Dont know why i did set it up as a headless machine. THought it would be a cleaner install. Atm im using it as a teamspeak server, but planning to stream music to it since it sits in my stereo bench.
• 1778[14:23:32] <flog> Oh god its nice to be back on a decent internet connection. Going from 1Mbit shared satlink to 250/100Mbit at home gives me tunnel vision
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• 1783[14:25:12] <teraflops> flog: I do google play music this way replaced-url
• 1784[14:25:36] <flog> You got some good music taste ^^
• 1785[14:25:54] <teraflops> heh
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• 1787[14:26:26] <flog> I used mpd back in the days when I tried to be a linux geek. running gentoo, tiling VMs and stuff.
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• 1792[14:29:58] <teraflops> flog: I got fiber recently I passed from 20/2 to 300/300 :P
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• 1794[14:30:23] <teraflops> for almost the same price ^
• 1795[14:30:26] <polyzen> wat
• 1796[14:30:37] <teraflops> that ^
• 1797[14:30:40] <flog> Got a deal with the appartmentcomplex 6euro/month for 250/100 + basic tv package
• 1798[14:30:51] <teraflops> flog: looks pretty decent
• 1799[14:30:57] <polyzen> I pay $50/mo for 50/50 :|
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• 1801[14:31:23] <flog> teraflops: 100/100 + tv would have been 0<insert currency here>/month
• 1802[14:31:28] <teraflops> polyzen: I pay 67€ tax included for 300/300 and mobile
• 1803[14:31:38] <polyzen> :|
• 1804[14:31:52] <flog> about 6 euro for the 250 downstream addon.
• 1805[14:31:57] <teraflops> oh
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• 1807[14:32:51] <teraflops> here is unmetered (by now)
• 1808[14:32:51] <flog> 1000/100 would have been 900sek or 95euro /month.
• 1809[14:32:58] <flog> not worth it.
• 1810[14:33:03] <teraflops> nope ^
• 1811[14:33:37] * abrotman looks around ..
• 1812[14:33:39] <flog> No limit on data amount either.
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• 1814[14:34:15] <teraflops> from 100 upload speed you can consider running some servers at home
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• 1818[14:34:54] <flog> Ive seen as low as 600sek/month for 1000/100 here in sweden.
• 1819[14:35:11] * teraflops noticed the warns and returns to the idling
• 1820[14:35:35] <teraflops> flog: we are about to being warned about offtopic :P
• 1821[14:35:49] <flog> should probably head back to configuring mopidy then...
• 1822[14:35:53] <teraflops> heh
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• 1846[14:54:08] <plasmoduck> fun police
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• 1858[15:07:47] <plasmoduck> lol\
• 1859[15:07:57] <plasmoduck> sorry wrong window
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• 1878[15:26:28] <flog> teraflops: was it mopidy you showed off with that video earlier?
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• 1881[15:26:44] <teraflops> nope, it was gmusicproxy
• 1882[15:26:48] <flog> ah.
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• 1892[15:31:16] <flog> teraflops: still not sure what is needed to get some sound out of my nuc.
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• 1895[15:32:35] <prototron> hello. I have a USB drive auto mounted in /etc/fstab byt everything is mounted as a certain user, with persmission 777. I want mnt/sda1/pgsql_data to be owned by 'postgres:postgres'. How should I do that in order to use this folder as a PostgreSQL cluster, with the service starting at boot?
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• 1899[15:35:42] <teraflops> flog: what do you mean? no sound there?
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• 1901[15:37:01] <teraflops> flog: if you do pulseaudio, it works per-user and if you dont do xorg youll have bad times on jessie, I'd recommend alsa if you do cli
• 1902[15:37:19] <jelly> flog, what did you try so far?
• 1903[15:37:33] <teraflops> flog: unless you want pulseaudio systemwide (not a great idea)
• 1904[15:38:06] <flog> basically just installed mopidy.
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• 1906[15:38:14] <poeticrpm> does the init image need anything more than 'xts' and 'aes_amd64' in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules?
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• 1908[15:38:21] <poeticrpm> if i use luks
• 1909[15:38:23] <poeticrpm> sorry
• 1910[15:38:39] <flog> teraflops: so also would be the way to go.
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• 1912[15:38:57] <poeticrpm> it might be also 'aes_x86_64', but I cant find it in the wiki or google.
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• 1917[15:40:25] <teraflops> flog: yes, alsa or replaced-url
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• 1920[15:41:08] <teraflops> flog: ^or pulseadio systemwide (bad idea if you ask me)
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• 1936[15:47:20] <flog> teraflops: just getting unable to open slave on audiotesting with alsa.
• 1937[15:47:57] <teraflops> flog: please paste the exact error output and what are you trying to do
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• 1942[15:48:59] <flog> replaced-url
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• 1944[15:50:41] <teraflops> flog: do you have a ~/.asoundrc file?
• 1945[15:50:45] <tokage> official debian gnu/hurd when?
• 1946[15:51:15] <flog> let me check
• 1947[15:51:33] <flog> teraflops: nope
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• 1951[15:52:15] <teraflops> flog: then check /etc/asound.conf for systemwide
• 1952[15:52:47] <flog> no asound.conf
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• 1960[15:54:17] <teraflops> flog: my alsa-fu is a joke, take a look at replaced-url
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• 1964[15:55:36] <flog> mkay will do.
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• 1976[16:02:37] <flog> teraflops: could not having an audio group be an issue?
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• 1990[16:06:56] <teraflops> for alsa? yes
• 1991[16:07:05] <teraflops> flog: replaced-url
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• 2001[16:10:04] <flog> oh i was member of audio.
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• 2016[16:16:38] <Guest70820> I'm trying to get my system to recognize my xbox 360 controller so I can play emulators. it's not being recognized. the light is lit though but I can't get it to be recognized. I installed xboxdrv and blacklisted xpad. here's some additional information: replaced-url
• 2017[16:16:38] <Guest70820> emulator. But it does seem to work with jstest-gtk. There is button response when using that program.
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• 2034[16:27:02] <K|nG> hiu
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• 2093[16:55:50] <kuldeep> earlier i was posted for request looking for "mantainer" i meant "debian packages mantainer" (not the software development).
• 2094[16:56:55] <kuldeep> if someone missed, we are looking for debian packages mantainer for replaced-url
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• 2099[16:59:04] <kuldeep> any tip what should i do next? (maybe if this is not the right approch or place)
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• 2101[17:01:41] <blawiz> in 'echo -e "\e[00;31m\nfoobar\e[00m"|less -R' less -R doesnt show the text as red unless the \n is removed... is it a bug? eg 'more' show the right color
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• 2111[17:05:32] <careta> I'm going insane with gtk3 themes
• 2112[17:05:41] <careta> my gnome calculator doesn't show any buttons, they are all flat
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• 2114[17:05:53] <careta> how do I reset all gtk3 settings and then change it using lxappearance?
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• 2117[17:06:47] <teraflops> careta: are you in jessie?
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• 2120[17:07:33] <careta> teraflops, mix stable with testing
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• 2122[17:07:48] <teraflops> pining?
• 2123[17:07:53] <Meerkat> recently xscreensaver started activating the unlock window every time the timer runs out. I unplugged the mouse and keyboard just incase one of them caused some kind of input but it still happens. Is this a known issue on Debian 8?
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• 2125[17:08:19] <careta> teraflops, yes, most of it is stable but I have some testing packages such as vbox
• 2126[17:08:32] <vjacob> hi all. what can I do besides "dpkg --configure -a" to finish a problematic dpkg install round?
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• 2128[17:09:08] <vjacob> Presently I just want to do one thing, but I am unsure how: I want to cancel or drop the installation of the package in question simply
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• 2132[17:09:51] <vjacob> the reason? dpkg is just hanging there without anything going on when I do "dpkg --configure -a"
• 2133[17:09:53] <teraflops> careta: which version is gtk+3.0 there?
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• 2135[17:11:41] <teraflops> careta: I ask it because 3.20 is a major release and many gtk3 themes are broken with that version
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• 2137[17:12:02] <careta> teraflops, I'm being dumb, what's the package name again?
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• 2140[17:12:18] <teraflops> ,v gtk+3.0
• 2141[17:12:19] <judd> No package named 'gtk+3.0' was found in amd64.
• 2142[17:12:24] <teraflops> dang
• 2143[17:12:37] <teraflops> ,v gtk+
• 2144[17:12:38] <judd> No package named 'gtk+' was found in amd64.
• 2145[17:12:50] <teraflops> ok I bail on the bot
• 2146[17:13:13] <careta> weird, I'm able to find libgtk2.0 (v 2.24.30) but can't find any gtk3 lib package
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• 2152[17:14:04] <careta> either installed or not
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• 2155[17:14:26] <teraflops> ,v libgtk-3-0
• 2156[17:14:27] <judd> Package: libgtk-3-0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.4.2-7+deb7u1; jessie: 3.14.5-1+deb8u1; stretch: 3.20.6-2; sid: 3.20.6-2
• 2157[17:14:30] <teraflops> ^
• 2158[17:14:55] <careta> yup 3.20
• 2159[17:15:28] <careta> the thing is: today I did an upgrade, and because of some testing lib I had to remove the gtk3-engines-oxygen package (it doesn't exist more in testing)
• 2160[17:15:36] <careta> after that all gtk3 apps look like crap
• 2161[17:15:39] <teraflops> well, just check the themes youre installing are gtk+3.20 compatibles
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• 2165[17:15:55] <careta> I've used lxappearance to change to lots of different themes, still have the same problem
• 2166[17:15:58] <careta> even with system themes
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• 2168[17:16:10] <careta> it must be some retarded setting on a config file
• 2169[17:16:28] <vjacob> no ideas anyone?
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• 2171[17:17:34] <teraflops> careta: delete your ~/.config/gtk-3.0/ then and start over
• 2172[17:17:41] <teraflops> s/delete/rename
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• 2176[17:19:12] <dob1> hi, how is the support for skylake for jessie?
• 2177[17:19:26] <teraflops> careta: oh that branch mix issue may cause it too, I cannot help you with that though
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• 2187[17:30:12] <vjacob> dpkg -r -a ... and dpkg -P -a ...are also not of much help
• 2188[17:30:12] * dpkg removes -a ... and dpkg -P -a ...are also not of much help along with a pound of flesh from vjacob's body, then staples vjacob back up with a staple gun.
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• 2190[17:30:30] <vjacob> nice one.
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• 2192[17:31:55] <careta> teraflops, looks like gtk3 is still using the old theme
• 2193[17:32:00] <careta> doesn't update to the new one
• 2194[17:32:11] <careta> when I start gnome-calculator, it refers to a file in the old theme
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• 2196[17:33:08] <careta> I have no idea where it is picking up that config... it's not in my .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
• 2197[17:33:13] <careta> that file points to the new theme
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• 2210[17:37:35] <teraflops> careta: no idea sorry, youre mixing branches and I dont know if it's related to your issue or not
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• 2214[17:38:25] <Guest59288> hello
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• 2239[17:45:19] <wulllst> on my system (debian jessie, openbox, no display manager) it is not possible to shut down the system as a normal user. i know, i can change that eihter by editing the sudoers file accordingly or (as man shutdown suggests) creating /etc/shutdown.allow an put the names of authorized users into that file.
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• 2246[17:48:02] <Pr0t3us> wullst was there a question there? ;p
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• 2249[17:49:07] <wulllst> Pr0t3us: just the intro to a question. i'm of the slow kind and think a lot.
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• 2254[17:50:20] <wulllst> now, i was wondering which of these is the best or standard way to do it. so, i installed debian (wheezy, for it was the only thing i had laying around) with the standard desktop environment on a test machine. strangely, the sudoers file of that system does not include any line allowing me or a specific group to shutdown the system. also, there is no /etc/shutdown.allow file. still, i can shut the machien downand reboot. so,
• 2255[17:50:33] <vjacob> a reboot did the trick. thankfully.
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• 2263[17:53:06] <wulllst> ok, i see gdm 3 is run by root...
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• 2265[17:53:32] <wulllst> that's clever
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• 2270[17:59:50] <RebelCoder> Guys, is there a way to force OpenGL application, that runs in a full screen, to run on 1 of 2 of the screens? It does not have native support for choosing which screen to run on.
• 2271[18:00:18] <RebelCoder> An maxes out on both and messes up the desktop...
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• 2282[18:02:55] <Putti> Is there any installer to get straight into sid?
• 2283[18:03:04] <Putti> I only see for stable and testing
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• 2285[18:03:38] <Putti> So to get to sid should I install for example testing and then update the sources list to point to sid?
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• 2287[18:04:26] <Epakai> yes
• 2288[18:04:31] <Putti> ok
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• 2290[18:06:04] <TomTomTosch> Putti: no, you should install stable then upgrade.
• 2291[18:06:11] <TomTomTosch> !testing installer
• 2292[18:06:11] <dpkg> Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. replaced-url
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• 2294[18:06:33] <Putti> TomTomTosch, well the stable installer ain't gonna work for me, so I have to go for the testing
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• 2297[18:07:47] <TomTomTosch> why wouldn't it and have you actually tried?
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• 2300[18:08:19] <Putti> TomTomTosch, I'm using a skylake system and it needs minimum of 4.4 kerne
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• 2302[18:08:39] <TomTomTosch> then good luck.
• 2303[18:09:10] <Putti> TomTomTosch, haha, so I have always wanted to contribute really to Debian so now I can start filing some bugs as I will be using sid
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• 2316[18:18:02] <TZander> anyone here uses stretch and KDE ? Since an update a couple of days ago various core features in kde stopped working. Can anyone confirm they areseeing the same?
• 2317[18:18:31] <TZander> for instance 'search' in the start menu or the whole 'krunner' fails to function
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• 2364[18:45:15] <RebelCoder> guys, how to list displays and names for them ? I have 2 connected
• 2365[18:45:25] <RebelCoder> they are not called Device0 and Device1 for me...
• 2366[18:46:35] <TomTomTosch> RebelCoder: xrandr -q
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• 2378[18:53:02] <RebelCoder> TomTomTosch, thanks, that is almost it, but it does not list names of displays...
• 2379[18:53:28] <RebelCoder> I am trying to run this openGL app and it needs the name of display
• 2380[18:53:42] <RebelCoder> primusrun glxgears -display <name>
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• 2386[18:56:10] <TomTomTosch> ah, you can type echo "$DISPLAY" to see the display name or just pass the DISPLAY variable to that command.
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• 2388[18:57:12] <RebelCoder> But echo only shows 1 Display and the name is just :0
• 2389[18:57:18] <RebelCoder> Ok... I will keep hacking
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• 2394[18:58:34] <shadows> RebelCoder: "display" is an X11 terminology
• 2395[18:58:51] <shadows> RebelCoder: the "display" can have multiple monitor outputs
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• 2398[18:59:17] <shadows> think of it like the display in memory and not the visual what you see on your physical screens
• 2399[18:59:26] <TomTomTosch> your frame buffer is simply the size of your two screens.
• 2400[18:59:30] <shadows> RebelCoder: use 'xrandr' for more detail about a "display"
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• 2417[19:02:58] <garn32> I'm on debian 8.4 and when using at Display Port monitor I cannot get anything on my screen when I enter in to a TTY via ctl+alt+F<N>, any one have a clue on how to fix this?
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• 2419[19:03:55] <shadows> garn32: not unusual
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• 2421[19:04:00] <jelly> garn32: but with VGA or DVD or HDMI it works?
• 2422[19:04:08] <jelly> DVI*
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• 2424[19:04:30] <garn32> jelly, I hav a second DVI monitor to compensate for the issue but would love to ditch the second monitor
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• 2428[19:05:34] <jelly> garn32: if you disconnect the second monitor and reboot, do you see initial bootup console messages on the DP connected display?
• 2429[19:06:26] <garn32> jelly: I don't think so but I've updated a few times since the last test now that you mention it, I'll be back in just a bit
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• 2442[19:11:42] <garn32> jelly: nope when boot no image to the DP monitor if no other monitors are connected
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• 2470[19:21:24] <awal1> garn32, output of xrandr ?
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• 2478[19:25:01] <garn32> awal1: replaced-url
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• 2487[19:29:09] <awal1> garn32, can you enable the dvi?
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• 2489[19:30:17] <garn32> awal1: I usually I have a dvi monitor attached, and it works perfectly fine, but the goal is to remove the dvi monitor and just have a single display, or am I misunderstanding your question?
• 2490[19:30:17] <awal1> enable dp and dvi and check if you get ttys working in both
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• 2492[19:30:40] <garn32> awal1: when the dvi is connected only the dvi screen show the ttys
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• 2495[19:30:56] <garn32> awal1: the dp screen reports no signal
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• 2498[19:31:32] <awal1> garn32, dp screen is not detected att all, no matters if the dvi is on or off?
• 2499[19:31:43] <jelly> garn32: the fact you don't even get an image on DP at boot even if it's the only output connected suggests the kernel driver has problems with it
• 2500[19:32:13] <garn32> awal1: when in a graphical mode (init 3) the dp works fine
• 2501[19:32:19] <awal1> exact, your problem garn32 is that your DP is not detected at boot time
• 2502[19:32:26] <garn32> jelly: I would not be surprised
• 2503[19:33:16] <jelly> garn32: which gpu are you using and which driver? Show the "lspci -nn" line for it and pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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• 2515[19:37:43] <garn32> jelly: replaced-url
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• 2517[19:38:05] <garn32> jelly: might have had an issue on the pastebin one moment
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• 2521[19:39:00] <garn32> jelly: that link should be correct
• 2522[19:39:09] <jelly> garn32: oh, you're using the closed nvidia driver. This is normal then, it often screws up text mode.
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• 2524[19:39:29] <garn32> jelly: does noveau actually fix this issue?
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• 2527[19:40:24] <jelly> garn32: yes, but whether nouveau works with your card well enough is another question
• 2528[19:40:39] <jelly> garn32: I'd say forget about text console, keep using X
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• 2531[19:41:06] <garn32> jelly: I did some looking for my card already, and it basically halves the performance, plus I need the CUDA stuff so not an option
• 2532[19:41:17] <garn32> jelly: thanks for the help
• 2533[19:41:22] <garn32> awal1: thanks for the help
• 2534[19:42:03] <awal1> garn32, I haven't been utile , but, np :)
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• 2537[19:42:28] <jelly> I have the same symptom when using nvidia driver, on a DVI monitor, however my GT720 works well enough with recent nouveau
• 2538[19:43:08] <garn32> jelly: CUDA is the cinch for me
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• 2540[19:44:18] <T4ng10r> hi
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• 2542[19:45:02] <T4ng10r> how can I track application calls to system? I mean I/O operation, system calls, etc
• 2543[19:45:21] <T4ng10r> ie - track_command_app application_to_track
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• 2548[19:47:45] <debidi> T4ng10r: strace ?
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• 2593[20:01:22] <Putti> Is there any free driver alternative to this package: firmware-iwlwifi ?
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• 2599[20:02:10] <jelly> Putti: no, not really
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• 2601[20:02:27] <Putti> I see that a module called iwlwifi is loaded on my debian sid install, but it doesn't enable wifi for me
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• 2603[20:02:54] <Putti> jelly, can I get the wifi working with that module which is already loaded?
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• 2605[20:03:09] <Putti> jelly, in Fedora 24 they got it somehow working with free software
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• 2607[20:03:34] <jelly> Putti: did they, or did they just ship some of the firmware with the driver
• 2608[20:04:12] <Putti> jelly, I think Fedora doesn't ship any non-free software by default.
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• 2610[20:04:49] <jelly> their definition of "free software" may differ from DFSG
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• 2612[20:05:17] <Putti> oh, I see. hmm, what will I do now :D
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• 2619[20:05:57] <jelly> a) buy a wifi card that has free drivers b) get the firmware necessary to make your wifi card work
• 2620[20:06:04] <jelly> c) find an ethernet cable
• 2621[20:06:22] <jelly> !debian-next
• 2622[20:06:22] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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• 2624[20:06:33] <Putti> jelly, running on ethernet cable atm, but I think this card should have free drivers
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• 2628[20:06:48] <cra1g321> telling us the card/chipset would maybe help
• 2629[20:06:59] <jelly> as a sid user you should probably know where to check for and report bugs, if there are any.
• 2630[20:07:07] <teraflops> "I think" and "should have" ^
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• 2635[20:07:52] <Putti> cra1g321, I try to find the model somehow, a minute.
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• 2638[20:08:08] <jelly> cra1g321: does it really matter, no iwlwifi hw works without firmware (afaik)
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• 2645[20:09:10] <Putti> cra1g321, it is Intel Corporation Wireless 8260
• 2646[20:09:25] <cra1g321> if only there was a helpful wiki page...
• 2647[20:09:28] <cra1g321> oh look replaced-url
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• 2650[20:10:20] <cra1g321> 8260 is listed in the "supported devices"
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• 2652[20:10:35] <Putti> "Non-free firmware is required" :(
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• 2656[20:11:20] <cra1g321> looking here replaced-url
• 2657[20:11:30] <jelly> dpkg, tell Putti about non-free sources
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• 2659[20:11:36] <cra1g321> the contents doesn't list the 8260 for jessie package, but it does for jessie-backports
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• 2662[20:11:47] <jelly> Putti is apparently on sid.
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• 2664[20:11:50] <Putti> I don't want to use non-free
• 2665[20:11:54] <Putti> yes I am
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• 2671[20:12:13] <cra1g321> well if you dont want to use non-free you won't be using that wifi chipset then it seems
• 2672[20:12:34] <jelly> that's options a) or c) yes.
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• 2674[20:12:43] * Putti going to shop now
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• 2676[20:13:06] <jelly> investigate your hardware well before buying to run linux on
• 2677[20:13:21] <babilen> Putti: Your processor is likely to use some non-free microcode also
• 2678[20:13:24] <jelly> esp. if you care about DFSG
• 2679[20:13:33] <cra1g321> babilen, lol don't start that...
• 2680[20:13:46] <babilen> cra1g321: It's true
• 2681[20:13:51] <babilen> dpkg: microcode
• 2682[20:13:51] <dpkg> Microcode are instructions/structures for implementing high-level machine code within processors. The Linux kernel can load updated microcode on most x86 processors. Microcode patches for Intel and AMD64 CPUs are packaged for Debian as intel-microcode and amd64-microcode respectively; installing the relevant package is recommended to ensure system stability. Ask me about <non-free sources>. replaced-url
• 2683[20:13:53] <Putti> babilen, yes, hopefully someday I will get a fully free system
• 2684[20:13:53] <jelly> babilen: the wired ethernet card too! Oh the humanity!
• 2685[20:14:01] <teraflops> heh
• 2686[20:14:23] <babilen> It's a shame, but it is *really* hard to get around non-free
• 2687[20:14:45] <cra1g321> non-free honestly doesn't bother me, if it makes my hardware work then great, that's what i want
• 2688[20:14:48] <babilen> I kind of liked the idea of separating these "necessary evils" into a separate "firmware" suite
• 2689[20:14:48] <teraflops> s/hard/expensive
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• 2707[20:23:03] <poeticrpm> im hoping someone who has this setup can tell me what they have in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
• 2708[20:23:25] <poeticrpm> because I cant seem to get debian to read the keyfile.
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• 2710[20:23:54] <poeticrpm> or rather, get debians initramfs to read the usb drive and then the keyfile
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• 2743[20:41:48] <T4ng10r> Hi,
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• 2745[20:42:26] <T4ng10r> I've installed some packet after which one of my apps start showing 'Vector smash protection is enabled" and doesn't show some of dialog windows
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• 2747[20:42:46] <T4ng10r> I don't know which packet triggered this behavior or how to solved it
• 2748[20:42:49] <T4ng10r> can you help me?
• 2749[20:43:34] <T4ng10r> previously this app worked clean and without problem
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• 2771[20:51:28] <jmcnaught> T4ng10r: what program are you having trouble with?
• 2772[20:51:46] <T4ng10r> TeamViz
• 2773[20:51:59] <davidkart> hi ppl.
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• 2776[20:52:05] <davidkart> I'm trying to set up a squid server
• 2777[20:52:13] <davidkart> But that's not working that much
• 2778[20:52:14] <T4ng10r> from what I see - this is something wrote in Javascript in Titanium framwork
• 2779[20:52:22] <jmcnaught> T4ng10r: is that in Debian? You might need to ask upstream support
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• 2785[20:53:12] <T4ng10r> puzzling is that TV reports this - as strace show it
• 2786[20:53:15] <davidkart> replaced-url
• 2787[20:53:47] <T4ng10r> but in code I can't find anything - so it seam this OS is doing so
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• 2789[20:54:59] <Kurogane> Hi, debian 8 support Ed25519 SSH host keys?
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• 2793[20:55:54] <jmcnaught> Kurogane: yes
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• 2808[21:02:31] <jelly> T4ng10r: are you sure it's a package installation that introduced the behaviour? Can you create a fresh new user, log in as them and then try to run the same app?
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• 2825[21:08:19] <julius_> hi
• 2826[21:08:48] <julius_> to be able to use wake on lan i added: iface eth0 inet dhcp ethernet-wol g to /etc/network/interfaces but now the interface does not come on after boot..why?
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• 2845[21:16:53] <T4ng10r> jelly: good idea - i'll try it
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• 2849[21:19:02] <Putti> Hi, again, so instead of the intel non-free wifi card I got realtek 8192cu wifi usb card. It connects fine to wifi and gets and ip but I cannot access any web pages. There was some problems in dmesg, log here: replaced-url
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• 2857[21:21:16] <markybob> Putti: so you didn't install firmware-realtek?
• 2858[21:21:25] <Putti> no
• 2859[21:21:39] <markybob> Putti: so do it. and why do you keep asking sid questions in here?
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• 2861[21:22:40] <Putti> markybob, oh yeah, forgot, I will go to the #debian-next.
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• 2863[21:22:53] <Putti> markybob, but there should be free version available too
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• 2865[21:23:06] <TomTomTosch> i don't think there is.
• 2866[21:23:09] <Putti> markybob, and looks like it works somehow but there is now some bug
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• 2868[21:23:10] <markybob> i should be rich
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• 2871[21:24:07] <TomTomTosch> h-node says no. replaced-url
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• 2873[21:24:56] <Putti> :/
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• 2875[21:25:10] <TomTomTosch> Putti: free does not mean gratis. there are gratis drivers but they are not free software.
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• 2877[21:25:42] <Putti> yup, I was talking the whole time about libre firmware
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• 2886[21:28:55] <Putti> Btw, what is this that I see in the dmesg: "Loading alternative firmware rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin" ?
• 2887[21:29:09] <Putti> Is there some non-free firmware in debian? O.o
• 2888[21:30:32] <miskatonic> I use an ethernat-USB adapter in order to acess the internet
• 2889[21:31:05] <miskatonic> this way, I don't need that evil formware for my built-in realtek
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• 2891[21:31:45] <TomTomTosch> Putti: that file '/lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin' can only be found in the non-free firmware-realtek. check if you have it. you will not if you never installed non-free stuff.
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• 2898[21:35:51] <Putti> I gotta start studying how these wifi chips work so I could help developing a free replacement for these firmware files...
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• 2900[21:36:31] <TomTomTosch> that would be greately appreciated. good luck.
• 2901[21:37:31] <miskatonic> most of them would need to be reverse engineered as the vendors don't hand out documentation
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• 2903[21:38:23] <Putti> yeah
• 2904[21:39:34] <markybob> good luck not getting sued to death also
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• 2972[22:10:56] <plasmoduck> if mplayer can play movies in console uring fb, why can't we have a console web browser that can display images using fb?
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• 2974[22:11:26] <plasmoduck> or is there?
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• 2976[22:12:08] <plasmoduck> Ah NetSurf
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• 2978[22:12:25] <petemc> w3m as wel
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• 2980[22:14:01] <jhutchins> plasmoduck: Yeah, there have been several, all require some work.
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• 2983[22:14:24] <plasmoduck> thats pretty neat
• 2984[22:14:30] <plasmoduck> I have no need for X now :)
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• 2986[22:15:14] <teraflops> ^
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• 2990[22:16:04] <jhutchins> plasmoduck: No personal expericence, but framebuffer has been criticised as being extremely slow despite it's simplicity.
• 2991[22:16:37] <plasmoduck> jhutchins, noted.
• 2992[22:16:51] <plasmoduck> how can I show tux in my console with fbdev?
• 2993[22:17:03] <plasmoduck> like representing cpu cores like gentoo
• 2994[22:18:05] <plasmoduck> jhutchins, There is now a library DirectFB which provides a framework for hardware acceleration of the Linux framebuffer.
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• 3002[22:20:51] <teraflops> mover does hw cceleration via egl
• 3003[22:20:55] <teraflops> mpv
• 3004[22:22:05] <davidkart> can someone help me for a good proxy ?
• 3005[22:22:30] <TomTomTosch> a good proxy is one you pay for.
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• 3015[22:26:16] <davidkart> I want to run a web proxy on my vpn
• 3016[22:26:21] <davidkart> (i mean my vps debian)
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• 3018[22:26:29] <davidkart> I tried squid but : error on the box
• 3019[22:26:38] <davidkart> I want to go with something else, with authentication please.
• 3020[22:27:50] <jhutchins> davidkart: I would suggest that you work out the error on squid first, even if it's not what you end up with.
• 3021[22:28:01] <jhutchins> davidkart: squid is fairly well known and documented.
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• 3024[22:28:31] <davidkart> jhutchins: replaced-url
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• 3026[22:28:49] <davidkart> Squid is well documented but when I point my browser to it, it is not working
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• 3029[22:29:43] <jhutchins> davidkart: So you have something set up wrong, figure it out and you'll be that much further ahead if you try something else.
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• 3031[22:29:54] <davidkart> I do replaced-url
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• 3034[22:31:26] <jhutchins> !squid
• 3035[22:31:26] <dpkg> Squid is a caching web proxy supporting HTTP/S, FTP and others. Debian's squid packages are not built with SSL support (Debian bug #180886), ask about <package rebuild> and supply "--enable-ssl" for this. See also <squid deb caching>, <transparent proxy>. /usr/share/doc/squid{,3}/* replaced-url
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• 3039[22:33:08] <shtrb> Is anyone with FF (45.1 and up) can pass the OWA login (on debian , on windows works without any problem) , checked with konqueror works without problem (FF seems to be stuck in a login loop even with a brand new user) ?
• 3040[22:33:16] <shtrb> *owa office 365 login
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• 3044[22:34:08] <davidkart> it makes me cringe sorry to late in the game
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• 3054[22:37:46] <m5w_> Hello. I am trying to install debian on my laptop. I have done netinst several times in the past, so I booted to a USB with 8.4 netinst. While it boots to grub without any issues, I cannot procede any further. I have a GeForce 940M and have used debian with nvidia cards before, so I added nomodeset as a parameter and noquiet so I could see what was going on. It shows something about EDD and then goes to a black screen with a flashing
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• 3066[22:44:50] <m5w_> I also tried booting to gparted live, as I wanted to do some partitioning. It complained about BAR 6 failing to assign memory and spit out a bunch of messages about PCI
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• 3068[22:45:32] <jhutchins> m5w_: Sounds a lot like bad RAM. Reseat.
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• 3074[22:47:38] <Aorious> Hi, I am attempting to create a "simple" backport of libvirt0, from stretch to jessie, using the guide on the Debian wiki. However, when I run 'dpkg-buildpackage', it displays missing dependencies. Here is the output of mk-build-deps, replaced-url
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• 3076[22:49:04] <m5w_> jhutchins: interesting; it runs Win 10 just fine. I'll see if I can get MemTest to run
• 3077[22:49:35] <markybob> ,checkbackport libvirt0
• 3078[22:49:36] <judd> Backporting package libvirt0 in sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libxml2-dev (>= 2.9.2+really2.9.1+dfsg1-0.2).
• 3079[22:49:39] <markybob> good luck
• 3080[22:50:03] <Putti> hi m5w_ ! :D
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• 3082[22:50:15] <m5w_> hey Putti
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• 3089[22:53:23] <Aorious> markybob, I do not understand, ",checkbackport libvirt0". Check the jessie-backports repo? An offical backport does not exist.
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• 3092[22:54:05] <TomTomTosch> >> /msg judd help checkbackport
• 3093[22:54:10] <markybob> Aorious: that's the bot telling you ssb won't work. jessie just doesn't have the depends
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• 3096[22:56:27] <Aorious> markybob, Okay. Are there any alternatives? I understand "apt pinning" is something that can be used, but is not recommended.
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• 3102[22:57:57] <babilen> judd: checkbackport libxml2-dev
• 3103[22:57:58] <judd> Backporting package libxml2-dev in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
• 3104[22:58:08] <babilen> Aorious: You could backport libxml2-dev first
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• 3113[23:00:23] <Aorious> babilen, Okay thanks!
• 3114[23:00:47] <jmcnaught> Aorious: do you need a new feature available only in the newer libvirt? If you can make it work with the libvirt in jessie you'll have a lot less ongoing maintenance to do
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• 3117[23:01:38] <Aorious> However, there were many other unmet dependencies. replaced-url
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• 3119[23:02:29] <Aorious> jmcnaught: Yes, I need a specific bug fix, I believe could be avalible in the new version.
• 3120[23:02:56] <jmcnaught> Aorious: did you use "apt-get build-dep" on the package? What is the bug?
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• 3123[23:03:57] <markybob> what will build-dep possibly do when it's not satisfiable? judd doesn't just lie :P
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• 3125[23:04:45] <Aorious> jmcnaught, No I did not, I was merely following the wiki SimpleBackportCreation guide. I will do it now. This is the bug, replaced-url
• 3126[23:05:17] <babilen> You'll habe to have access to jessie-backports
• 3127[23:05:27] <Aorious> markybob: I think we understand that there is one that is not satisfiable. However, I was asking about all the other deps that are unmet.
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• 3129[23:06:07] <markybob> that bug was fixed in 1.2.8. jessie has 1.2.9
• 3130[23:06:10] <markybob> so...
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• 3141[23:09:52] <Aorious> markybob, Okay. I guess I have other problems I will need to research.
• 3142[23:11:15] <jmcnaught> that bug is fixed in libvirt-1.2.8-5.el7 in redhat, but they could have backported a fix. I couldn't see a similar bug on the Debian BTS for the libvirt source package
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• 3145[23:13:56] <m5w_> jhutchins: starting memtest now
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• 3152[23:18:24] <Aorious> jmcnaught, Unsure whether that means I should continue my efforts to backport libvirt0 from jessie to stretch. Out of interest, I ran 'apt-get build-dep', although 'dpkg-buildpackage' stills shows unmet dependencies (dh-apparmor libpolkit-gobject-1-dev xsltproc qemu-system-common), asides from the unsatisfiable libxml2-dev. For future reference, is this normal, or can I automate this with another command (apart from sudo
• 3153[23:18:26] <Aorious> apt-get install ...)?
• 3154[23:19:23] <Aorious> **Installing the unmet dependencies.
• 3155[23:19:29] <jmcnaught> Aorious: i thought that apt-get build-dep might help fetch build deps that can be satisfied.
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• 3159[23:20:16] <Aorious> Aorious, Okay, it did, for most but not all.
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• 3162[23:20:41] <Aorious> jmcnaught, Okay, thanks. It did, for most but not all.
• 3163[23:20:44] <jmcnaught> Aorious: personally i would look at whether the managedsave feature is worth this effort (which you'll need to repeat for security updates)
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• 3167[23:21:46] <jmcnaught> Aorious: if you can find the patch that fixes the bug you could also try rebuilding the jessie version with the patch
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• 3170[23:23:49] <Aorious> jmcnaught, Thats seems safer. I will try that.
• 3171[23:24:44] <babilen> You will still have to maintain it in the future and rebuild it for every security release. Depending on your usecase that might not be advisable.
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• 3178[23:27:42] <Aorious> babilen, I will keep that in mind.
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• 3184[23:29:13] <Aorious> In that case, I should just ask. Is there any other way to take and restore .qcow2 snapshots in debian stable, without the bugged virt-manager, libvirt (bugged with my specific cpu config).
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• 3228[23:56:47] <buu> Is there some way to make screen -Q work while inside a screen session?
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• 3230[23:57:30] <Loeb> I need to set a process with the highest possible priority, realtime if possible. Do I need to compile a kernel for this?
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• 3232[23:57:51] <Loeb> I've done some chrt commands and it says that the process is running with SCHED_FIFO and priority 99 right now
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