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15 [00:08:27] <thyriaen> hi, i am looking for a way to get
chrome ( and/or chromium ) to send notifications with libnotify
instead of the chrome buildin nnotification so it gets better
integrated into your desktop - is there a way ?
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58 [00:24:17] <tommaso> CeBe: you lighted the path thx,
i'll investigate
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74 [00:33:46] <transhuman> is there a command line launch switch
for apache that will show me what line a modules is attempted to be
loaded from?
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81 [00:36:48] <doubledutch> transhuman: cd
/etc/apache3/mods-available/
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84 [00:37:49] <transhuman> yeah unfortunately I have a
bastardized install hoping there was an apache switch that might
reveal the mystery
85 [00:37:53] <doubledutch> transhuman: If you have something in
there... sudo a2enmod rewrite && sudo service apache3
reload...
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87 [00:38:04] <doubledutch> Do you have a mod_ file?
88 [00:38:17] <teraflops> transhuman: afaik you cannot unless
you write something that intercepts chromium notifications and send
them to notify-osd thingy
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90 [00:39:04] <doubledutch> transhuman: does pstree or htop
mention a module or some clue?
91 [00:39:10] <transhuman> apparently some where in my
bastardized install I am loading a few modules twice
92 [00:40:42] <transhuman> half debian/half
alpine-linux...shouldnt have gotten myself in this mess in the first
place
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94 [00:40:51] <teraflops> transhuman: ugh sorry I meant thyriaen
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96 [00:41:55] <thyriaen> would that "something" be an
extension ?
97 [00:41:55] <transhuman> np teraflops
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99 [00:42:17] <teraflops> thyriaen: idk
100 [00:42:22] <thyriaen> :) okay
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110 [00:50:46] <Diogenes_> Hello, its just a very noobish
question, but I deleated Empathy's entry in Alacarte, and would
like to bring it back to the favorite's tab.
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113 [00:51:55] <Diogenes_> When I try to add it through "New
Item" the "Ok" option gets greyed out.
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119 [00:55:28] <Diogenes_> Maybe if I could reset the GNOME
configuratio to default?
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129 [00:59:47] <tommaso> this should work
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158 [01:16:18] <ctcx> When logging in my debian box via ssh, why
does it sometimes happen that I cannot enter a capital 'C'
character? Sometimes I try and system seemingly takes it as a
Ctrl+C. I already tried from several pcs, all keyboards are in
perfect state.
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163 [01:18:37] <HeXiLeD> is there a repo for
164 [01:18:40] <HeXiLeD> HPLIP 3.16.2 Brings Support For Debian 8
165 [01:19:01] <HeXiLeD> laserjet pro mfp m127fs
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171 [01:21:30] <Iridos> that sounds extremely unlikely… if
the terminal is on a graphical linux client, maybe you could watch
with xev if an event for ctrl appears
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173 [01:22:34] <ctcx> No Ctrl events!
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175 [01:25:25] <Iridos> judd, versions hplip
176 [01:25:26] <judd> Package: hplip on amd64 -- wheezy:
3.12.6-3.1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 3.12.6-3.1+deb7u2; jessie:
3.14.6-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 3.16.11+repack0-1~bpo8+1;
stretch: 3.16.11+repack0-2; sid: 3.16.11+repack0-2
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178 [01:25:39] <Iridos> HeXiLeD, it's in jessie-backports
179 [01:25:55] <Iridos> dpkg, jessie-backports
180 [01:25:55] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Stretch (Debian
9) but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found
in the "jessie-backports" repository. See <replaced-url
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185 [01:27:39] <orb> well, one thing you want to avoid is ctrl-s
186 [01:28:04] <orb> but if you must try it, use ctrl-q to fix
it.
187 [01:28:12] <orb> i probably should have said that sooner.
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189 [01:28:24] <transhuman> in apache what loads the envvars
file? is there supposed to be a line in apache2.conf?
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199 [01:31:51] <Iridos> transhuman, apache2ctl?
200 [01:32:05] <Iridos> as per manpage
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204 [01:33:19] <transhuman> ok so now I have to figure out what
that script does...thanks
205 [01:33:20] <Iridos> hm, dunno what else reads it by default.
It's also mentioned in /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz
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208 [01:33:50] <Iridos> but that doesn't seem too clear to
me from what it says there
209 [01:34:04] <Iridos> bye
210 [01:35:05] <transhuman> bye
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306 [03:04:15] <transhuman> can anyone tell me how do i resolve
error config variable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined...I realize I
am half way between debian and alpine-linux...but this seems to be
my last error...its almost as if its not seeing the envvars file
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384 [03:46:46] <watersj> anyone have any luck with hauppauge
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458 [04:37:05] <rdococ> debiananan
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461 [04:39:09] <binaryc> Debian I love you, but your bringing me
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470 [04:48:34] <rdococ> erro
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478 [04:55:04] <Atm0spher1c> is there a gpg sig file for the mini
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516 [05:15:32] <nyexpress> hello!
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518 [05:16:19] <nyexpress> I am having trouble installing debian
on my 2014 macbook pro retina - I am using the nonfree netinstaller
testing (stretch) - and the internet / networking hardware
can't be found
519 [05:16:38] <nyexpress> anyone happen to know what's up
with that?
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522 [05:17:46] <Atm0spher1c> nyexpress: wifi? use ethernet
523 [05:17:51] <yukip> debian is old, use ubuntu
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526 [05:17:57] <somiaj> nyexpress: do you have a wired connection
you can use for the install? For some reason I think some of those
wifi cards (b43) debian can't distribute the firmware, and you
have to run a script to get it.
527 [05:17:59] <theraspberry> lol
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529 [05:18:17] <nyexpress> oof I don't have a dongle :(
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531 [05:18:51] <nyexpress> but thank you for the heads up guys
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533 [05:19:06] <Shadow_7> You can install on another device. And
sneaker net it over though. Seems that the b43-fwcutter dropped
--unsupported for my older dell
534 [05:19:46] <Shadow_7> or get it from packages.debian.org and
download.openwrt.org/sources/
535 [05:20:16] <somiaj> yea I had to do an offline extraction of
the b43 firmware with b43-cuuter once, it wasn't easy so not
something I usually suggest
536 [05:20:38] <nyexpress> yeah I had some trouble with the b43
thing, didn't seem to work
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538 [05:20:59] <somiaj> it works good if you have another way to
access the internet.
539 [05:21:16] <Atm0spher1c> That was years ago for me, works
with wired connection and nonfree
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541 [05:21:57] <Shadow_7> seems that it's
replaced-url
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543 [05:23:17] <nyexpress> I just need b43-fwcutter>
544 [05:23:26] <Shadow_7> I just got to remember to use the
wheezy version of b43-fwcutter for my older 32 bit dell
545 [05:23:35] <nyexpress> ?*
546 [05:24:25] <Shadow_7> You need b43-fwcutter and the firmware
to cut
547 [05:24:37] <Shadow_7> Plus manually move it to
/lib/firmware/b43/
548 [05:25:03] <Shadow_7> And if it's really old need the
b43legacy stuff, but probably not in your case (or in the case of my
dell)
549 [05:26:06] <Atm0spher1c> there are packages
firmware-b43-installer, b43-fwcutter
550 [05:26:30] <nyexpress> thank you guys so much
551 [05:27:11] <Shadow_7> This one is default...
replaced-url
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553 [05:27:51] <Atm0spher1c> why? firmware-b43-installer does
this for you
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556 [05:28:10] <Shadow_7> Because mine is an old P4 32 bit circa
XP era
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558 [05:28:29] <positi> hello good night
559 [05:28:29] <positi> to everybod
560 [05:28:33] <Shadow_7> And the installer grabs the 5.100.138
version
561 [05:28:37] <positi> i need your help for connect and syn my
iphone 7+ with gtkpod.
562 [05:28:59] <positi> GnuTLS error: Error in the pull function
563 [05:29:13] <positi> i use ios10.2.1 in iphone 7+ but It
appears to be a lock-in
564 [05:29:25] <positi> strategy intended to force consumers to
use iTunes.
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568 [05:32:01] <positi> hello
569 [05:32:01] <positi> yuju
570 [05:32:01] <positi> please response
571 [05:32:16] <Atm0spher1c> ...and people believe they have
freedom. pff
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580 [05:38:05] <Diogenes_> Good night.
581 [05:38:15] <Diogenes_>
replaced-url
582 [05:38:28] <Diogenes_> Gnome is not recognizing my Cintiq at
its setting windows, though you can see that my machine recognizes
there's a Wacom plugged in... And a Wacom drive running over
there...
583 [05:38:42] <Diogenes_> What's holding it from doing
1+1=2?
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585 [05:39:10] <Diogenes_> Is what I would ask you guys, if any
of you were still awake...
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587 [05:39:29] <Diogenes_> XD
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598 [05:46:03] <Shadow_7> No idea what Cintiq is and don't
use gnome
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600 [05:48:00] <positi> hello
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604 [05:48:10] <positi> i need help with gtkpod
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606 [05:48:36] <Diogenes_> Shadow_7: ...That's a start.
607 [05:48:47] <positi> the new ios 10.2.1 don't work with
gtkpod
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611 [05:50:43] <positi> hello
612 [05:50:48] <positi> i need help
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635 [06:13:27] <psychoticwarrior> jru
636 [06:13:30] <psychoticwarrior> hey
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642 [06:24:21] <OtakuSenpai> my wifi drivers for this laptop are
a crapshit
643 [06:24:46] <OtakuSenpai> 10 mins on and still the site takes
time to load
644 [06:26:51] <psychoticwarrior> sucks
645 [06:26:55] <psychoticwarrior> what are the drivers
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648 [06:30:31] <OtakuSenpai> sid
649 [06:30:40] <OtakuSenpai> idk the drivers
650 [06:30:47] <psychoticwarrior> oh
651 [06:31:36] <n4dir1> lscpi -k or such
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653 [06:32:33] <OtakuSenpai> its 1 whole year since ive digging
on linux...forgotten so much
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658 [06:34:46] <OtakuSenpai> do i hav to do it in root
659 [06:34:51] <OtakuSenpai> n4dir1: ?
660 [06:35:05] <psychoticwarrior> i dont think so
661 [06:35:15] <psychoticwarrior> sudo root lspci -k
662 [06:35:25] <OtakuSenpai> [10:49:38] <stanford_ai>
I'm look
663 [06:35:30] <OtakuSenpai> srry
664 [06:35:38] <OtakuSenpai> bash: lscpi: command not found
665 [06:35:53] <psychoticwarrior> locate lspci
666 [06:36:04] <psychoticwarrior> see if that helps
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668 [06:36:11] <OtakuSenpai> returns blank
669 [06:36:17] <psychoticwarrior> huh
670 [06:36:17] <psychoticwarrior> idk
671 [06:36:18] <psychoticwarrior> then
672 [06:36:30] <psychoticwarrior> try root
673 [06:36:33] <OtakuSenpai> root@mabunny:/home/neelz# lscpi -k
674 [06:36:33] <OtakuSenpai> bash: lscpi: command not found
675 [06:36:51] <n4dir1> l s p c i
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677 [06:37:05] <OtakuSenpai> oh
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680 [06:37:34] <n4dir1> in general i am a big fan of command
completion (ls hit tap and hope that one of the results is what i
look for, else lsp hit tab ... etc)
681 [06:37:55] <OtakuSenpai> ok
682 [06:38:04] <OtakuSenpai>
replaced-url
683 [06:38:18] <n4dir1> not that hard to make a typo when typing
lspci , as far it's me :-)
684 [06:38:38] <OtakuSenpai> :)
685 [06:38:49] <psychoticwarrior> it works for me
686 [06:39:10] <psychoticwarrior> rt2800pci
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689 [06:40:52] <n4dir1> OtakuSenpai: i am not much in wirless (or
graphics). I used a searchterm "debian + RTL8723BE" , your
wireless chip, which gives this:
replaced-url
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692 [06:41:15] <n4dir1> and also firmware-realtek :
replaced-url
693 [06:41:31] <n4dir1> that's all i can offer. to me
wireless is voodoo.
694 [06:41:45] <OtakuSenpai> ok
695 [06:41:46] <OtakuSenpai> thnx
696 [06:41:53] <psychoticwarrior> what do you think of lenovo
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698 [06:42:41] <OtakuSenpai> n4dir1: can you tell me which model
my lappy uses?
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700 [06:42:52] <OtakuSenpai> psychoticwarrior: me?
701 [06:42:53] <n4dir1> which model of what?
702 [06:43:00] <OtakuSenpai> i hav a lenovo tab
703 [06:43:18] <OtakuSenpai> no the driver
704 [06:43:18] <fifi-v> I'm running Debian on a MacBook Air.
The WIFI connection on OS X is much stronger. How can I make Linux
performs better?
705 [06:43:21] <n4dir1> ah, on mine it says so on the laptop
itself. Have a close look. Else i don't know
706 [06:43:32] <OtakuSenpai> ok
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709 [06:44:18] <OtakuSenpai> Ethernet controller: Realtek
Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit
Ethernet Controller (rev 15)
710 [06:44:19] <OtakuSenpai> Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company
RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
711 [06:44:19] <OtakuSenpai> Kernel driver in use: r8169
712 [06:44:19] <OtakuSenpai> Kernel modules: r8169
713 [06:44:19] <n4dir1> as far i know the important info you get
from lspci though. There is a gui for such info, but i don't
know the name
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715 [06:44:21] <psychoticwarrior> acer her
716 [06:44:24] <psychoticwarrior> here
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718 [06:44:36] <OtakuSenpai> srry
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720 [06:44:44] <n4dir1> damn bots ... :-)
721 [06:44:46] <OtakuSenpai> is it r8169 ?
722 [06:44:54] <psychoticwarrior> could be
723 [06:44:57] <OtakuSenpai> ok
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729 [06:45:59] <OtakuSenpai> tht module is not in the webpage
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734 [06:50:18] <n4dir1> Ethernet is wired. I think. What you look
for is Network Controller, the very last entry from your paste
735 [06:51:18] <psychoticwarrior> yes it is wired
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737 [06:54:18] <psychoticwarrior> ethernet is wired
738 [06:54:25] <psychoticwarrior> 10/100/1000 mbps
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740 [06:54:31] <Sabotender> greetings all
741 [06:55:22] <Sabotender> how can I add a blacklist to debian?
I am trying to blacklist, vga16fb, nouveau, rivafb, nvidiafb, and
rivatv
742 [06:55:43] <Shadow_7> Tends to be
/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf or some such
743 [06:55:52] <Sabotender> some places says it is in
/etc/blacklist.conf, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but when I gedit
thoese locations, nothing is there
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746 [06:56:47] <Shadow_7> Sabotender: $ egrep -r -i blacklist
/etc/modprobe.d/*
747 [06:56:58] <Sabotender> danke just a momnet
748 [06:57:16] <Shadow_7> pcspkr is almost always blacklisted...
or at least -2 to load last
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750 [06:58:14] <Shadow_7> don't need the output. It should
tell you the syntax and where though.
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752 [06:58:45] <tommy_> dfadsfjkasdfjas
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756 [06:59:40] <Sabotender> Shadow_7: there is a lot of output; I
will have to look over it carefully
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758 [07:00:14] <Shadow_7> Seems like most of what you listed is
covered in fbdev-blacklist.conf from package udev
759 [07:00:19] <Shadow_7> except the nvidia one
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765 [07:02:00] <Sabotender> im looking, just a moment
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791 [07:27:47] <psychoticwarrior> whats up
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799 [07:35:45] <psychoticwarrior> anybody up still?
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805 [07:37:40] <n4dir1> it really doesn't bother me, but you
might like debian-offtopic, psychoticwarrior
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808 [07:38:24] <psychoticwarrior> what do you mean
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813 [07:39:52] <n4dir1> what's up anybody still up? ;
sounded like the need for chat or such (neither a question nor an
answer). For such there is the debian-offtopic channel ( i am not
there, hence can't say much).
814 [07:40:09] <psychoticwarrior> ok eh just chillen now
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816 [07:40:50] <n4dir1> i just let it flood. and wait for someone
to tell me my flooding is off-topic .... :-)
817 [07:41:03] <psychoticwarrior> for sure
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820 [07:41:44] <n4dir1> might be worth a try. offtopic, let me do
that.
821 [07:42:09] <psychoticwarrior> running wireshark right now
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866 [08:11:17] <CrazyTux> hello, is Debian Stable faster than
Ubuntu or many of its derivatives?
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869 [08:13:22] <jelly> CrazyTux: hard to say, try it and see
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872 [08:14:06] <CrazyTux> last time I tried to create a live usb
of debian stable. I wan
873 [08:14:19] <CrazyTux> I faced some problems in running it.
874 [08:14:36] <n4dir1> you can probably tweak ubuntu to be
faster too (back then, sysv, it was called services, and ubuntu
loaded everything and the kitchen sink, while debian rather not)
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876 [08:14:55] <CrazyTux> has that issue regarding debian live
usb been resolved?
877 [08:15:26] <n4dir1> imho the live CD's of debian are
sub-optimal. I would rather go for installation.
878 [08:15:34] <jelly> "some problems" and "that
issue" isn't descriptive enough to give an answer,
CrazyTux
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883 [08:16:29] <CrazyTux> yes. This is the kind of response I got
then. That live cds of debian are sub optimal.
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885 [08:16:57] <jelly> yes, installer images are taken better
care of
886 [08:17:11] <n4dir1> there are distributions based on debian
which focus on a small footprint. I mainly know refracta and antiX,
but both gave up on systemd (in case that is an issue for you)
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890 [08:18:00] <CrazyTux> how is MX Linux?
891 [08:18:00] <n4dir1> to me debian itself always felt pretty
lightweight though. never saw much the point of a distro based on
892 [08:18:28] <n4dir1> CrazyTux: i only heard good things,
didn't use it myself though. iirc it also gave up on systemd
893 [08:19:07] <n4dir1> which environment do you prefer?
894 [08:20:04] <CrazyTux> what is that systemd. and what are the
implications of giving up on systemd? I am too new to linux to be
having any knowledge of this.
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900 [08:21:01] <n4dir1> in that case it probably doesn't
matter. systemd is an init system, which is now used on most of the
bigger linux distributions.
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903 [08:21:48] <CrazyTux> ok
904 [08:21:57] <CrazyTux> bigger means what?
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906 [08:22:18] <stew> CrazyTux: so when the kernel is ready to
start processes, "the userland" it starts /sbin/init which
in turn starts other programs. what exactly /sbin/init is can be
something like systemd or sysvinit or upstart or something. Your
main interaction with it would probably be starting and stopping of
services
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908 [08:22:40] <n4dir1> debian based distros, red-had based
distros, arch, etc.
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911 [08:22:50] <CrazyTux> ok
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913 [08:23:15] <squelch> mean 99 percent of distros
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915 [08:23:20] <n4dir1> yup
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920 [08:24:44] <squelch> you can see it as something like the
windows registry
921 [08:24:59] <n4dir1> i mean: it's not that a desktop-user
fiddles with the init system all the time. I would only matter if
you want to use and learn the de facto standard of today.
922 [08:25:33] <n4dir1> for example to work in a professional
environment.
923 [08:25:40] <stew> systemd was very controversial when it
started becoming default on distros and remains controversial, to
the poitnt where there are distros devoted solely to not having it.,
so you'll notice that it may seem to get more attention than it
deserves and brought up when it doesn't seem to otherwise
matter
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926 [08:26:26] <n4dir1> i only know of one distro which only has
that purpose ...
927 [08:26:43] <CrazyTux> ok
928 [08:27:06] <n4dir1> back to topic: you prefer any graphical
environment, CrazyTux (say gnome, kde or such)
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931 [08:27:31] <squelch> neon
932 [08:27:42] <n4dir1> or only want to go as lightweight as
possible ? (this way or that way debian sure ain't a bad
choice, perhaps even among the top 10 :-) )
933 [08:27:44] <CrazyTux> Mate and Xfce
934 [08:28:02] <n4dir1> refracta comes with xfce, MX? not sure.
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936 [08:28:13] <n4dir1> i would first of all try debian, like
said
937 [08:28:26] <CrazyTux> MX has Xfce DE as its default DE.
938 [08:28:31] <n4dir1> ah, good
939 [08:28:41] <CrazyTux> ok
940 [08:29:29] <squelch> debian defaults to gnome
941 [08:29:42] <n4dir1> depends which iso you download :-)
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943 [08:30:20] <CrazyTux> ok
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945 [08:31:29] <n4dir1> some prefer to not install the GUI during
installation and do it afterwards (some prefer it the other way
around, duh)
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949 [08:33:13] <CrazyTux> ok
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956 [08:36:32] <stew> the fact that debian defaults to gnome
could not be more unconsequential. its only because 15 years ago or
whenever it was that joeyh was writing the installer, gnome happened
to be in better shape at the time in testing or something to this
effect
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958 [08:37:29] <n4dir1> like said: if you want a different GUI,
just download a different installation iso
959 [08:37:53] <squelch> best gui is ncurses
960 [08:38:04] <n4dir1> lol
961 [08:38:10] <n4dir1> not emacs?
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963 [08:38:39] <squelch> isnt that the default debian install
gui?
964 [08:39:10] <stew> n4dir1: he said gui, not guest os
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966 [08:39:41] <squelch> you mean ncurses isnt grafic?
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968 [08:39:44] <stew> squelch: yes, its the checkbox that is
checked in the installer by default. you can uncheck it and check a
different one
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970 [08:40:25] <squelch>
replaced-url
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975 [08:41:06] <n4dir1>
replaced-url
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978 [08:41:42] <squelch> i only download iso using https
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981 [08:42:21] <stew> and the biggest difference there is which
packages you download on the iso, not any difference to the actual
installer, its just a way of caching some xfce packages on the iso
that you may or may not need
982 [08:42:31] <stew> with some altered defaults to the
checkboxes in the iso
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989 [08:43:26] <n4dir1> if that has changed, then it might be
possible. in the past by choosing [*] desktop environment during
tasksel you would get the GUI of the iso you downloaded
990 [08:43:29] <squelch> real debian users just download the
netinstall iso
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993 [08:44:24] <stew> squelch: bah
994 [08:44:24] <squelch> debian should only make netinstall isos
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996 [08:44:40] <n4dir1> mainly for the people without internet
connection
997 [08:44:44] <stew> n4dir1: oh that might be true
998 [08:45:05] <squelch> whats the use of linux with out it
999 [08:45:22] <stew> if you are going to do repeated installs of
a, for example, gnome desktop, it makes sense to get a gnome iso,
because then you dont' have to keep downloading the packages on
the iso over and over
1000 [08:45:34] <n4dir1> learning to program? a serever on a lan?
whatever.
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1002 [08:46:57] <squelch> yes im learning to program using man
pages
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1008 [08:47:59] <squelch> and if you have slow internet the
netinstall is your best pick
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1010 [08:48:10] <n4dir1> downloading the CD takes me ca 3 minutes
longer than downloading the netiso. I usually use the CD.
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1013 [08:48:53] <squelch> plus the time to do updates
1014 [08:48:58] <n4dir1> but sure, generally the netinst will be
the prefered choice. just saying there *might* be needs for the full
CD or even DVD's
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1016 [08:49:47] <n4dir1> as long it's not like Slackware does
it.
1017 [08:49:48] <squelch> wile the betinstall should give you the
updated system from start
1018 [08:49:49] <n4dir1> :-)
1019 [08:49:51] <CrazyTux> MX Linux has another option. They make
available monthly updated ISO's.
1020 [08:50:13] <n4dir1> squelch: yes, but you will still have to
download it during installation. ...
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1022 [08:50:40] <squelch> you dont have to download twice
1023 [08:50:51] <CrazyTux>
replaced-url
1024 [08:51:04] <n4dir1> you have to download whatever you
install. say a GUI
1025 [08:51:05] <squelch> is great thing to know when you lost an
argument
1026 [08:51:27] <CrazyTux> MX is a Debian stable based distro.
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1029 [08:51:54] <n4dir1> CrazyTux: my guess is MX is a good
choice. Like said: from what i have heard, never used it
1030 [08:52:13] <CrazyTux> ok
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1032 [08:53:22] <CrazyTux> I used Linux Mint also. Sometime the
sound volume gets reduced there for no obvious reason until I log in
again.
1033 [08:53:39] <CrazyTux> I think Debian Stable won't have
such problems.
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1035 [08:54:39] <squelch> you use debian based linux mint?
1036 [08:55:36] <CrazyTux> No. Ubuntu based.
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1038 [08:56:19] <squelch>
replaced-url
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1040 [08:56:30] <CrazyTux> ok
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1044 [08:58:31] <squelch> i dont know if it fixes the volume
problem thou
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1047 [08:59:36] <squelch> if you using mint why arent you at their
irc network?
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1052 [09:00:26] <squelch> ive always seen linux has a portal to
irc :-)
1053 [09:01:07] <CrazyTux> wanted to try Debian stable.
1054 [09:01:30] <CrazyTux> Actually, I have used Debian on my old
laptop.
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1056 [09:01:56] <n4dir1> Do it ! Now !
replaced-url
1057 [09:02:20] <CrazyTux> ok
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1061 [09:04:05] <squelch> motivational speech for suicidals?
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1064 [09:05:26] <n4dir1> :-) just kidding anyway. imho the best is
to stick to any ! distro and get the hang of it. Mainly if the
question is only about distributions based on debian anyway
1065 [09:06:06] <n4dir1> in a debian channel i obviously consider
debian to be a good choice :-)
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1067 [09:06:40] <squelch> but you meantioned slackware
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1070 [09:07:13] <n4dir1> well: i mentioned it. but if i
wouldn't consider debian to be a good choice, i wouldn't
be here
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1072 [09:08:18] <squelch> you should work at an apple store
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1074 [09:08:57] <n4dir1> and tell them how to install debian on
their shiny new hardware?
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1076 [09:09:13] <squelch> yes and void the warranty
1077 [09:09:25] <squelch> just give them your motivational speach
1078 [09:09:51] <n4dir1> i tried hard to get the hang of OS X , or
however it is called, but it really is weird, imho
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1080 [09:10:52] <n4dir1> so i went for debian.
1081 [09:11:37] <CrazyTux> is LMDE based on Debian Stable?
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1084 [09:12:04] <squelch> no but its stable enough better then
testing
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1089 [09:12:28] <squelch> or at least it should be based on what
they say on that page
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1095 [09:15:11] <CrazyTux> ok
1096 [09:15:26] <squelch> you could also try steamOS its based on
debian
1097 [09:15:49] <CrazyTux> Will check that.
1098 [09:15:59] <squelch> and its gets you games
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1106 [09:17:08] <CrazyTux> I think it it primarily for games. I
need a reliable OS for home and office use. I usually don't
play games.
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1108 [09:18:03] <CrazyTux> how is Deepin?
1109 [09:18:11] <squelch> based on your nick i would think
otherwise
1110 [09:18:13] <CrazyTux> or deepin.
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1112 [09:18:55] <squelch> buy the time you spending here you could
be running all this distros already
1113 [09:19:24] <CrazyTux> ok
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1115 [09:19:44] <n4dir1> yeah. And as far deepin is concerned: i
for one would sure consider the userbase when it comes to selecting
a distro. A big userbase means much help, which is good
1116 [09:20:49] <squelch> deepin has a huge user base since is
based of china and you know there are plaenty of chinese
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1119 [09:21:28] <CrazyTux> ok
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1121 [09:21:37] <n4dir1> not sure if i would want to learn chinese
to ask for support, but hey, why not
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1123 [09:22:38] <squelch> you can tell deepin has a fairlly number
of developers working on it
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1125 [09:23:25] <squelch> you can tell they do pay attention to
usability details
1126 [09:23:31] <CrazyTux> ok
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1219 [10:11:20] <BAN_ME_YOU_PUNKS> I am here to promote racist,
sexist, misogynistic, and other intolerant and racist hate speech,
for the purpose of getting this IP address permanently banned from
this channel and network.
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1223 [10:12:55] <KnightsWhoSayNi> BAN_ME_YOU_PUNKS: what group are
you going to target first?
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1225 [10:13:38] <BAN_ME_YOU_PUNKS> KnightsWhoSayNi: The classic
target of all three major hate groups (nazis kkk and islam)....
1226 [10:13:41] <BAN_ME_YOU_PUNKS> The Jews!
1227 [10:14:00] <BAN_ME_YOU_PUNKS> see, they're so flighty,
they just take off as soon as there's trouble
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1283 [10:50:01] <powi> !say powi about paste
1284 [10:50:01] <dpkg> powi about paste
1285 [10:50:38] <bazhang> !tell powi about pastebin
1286 [10:51:18] <powi> No problem, I asked dpkg in private
(didn't remember the bot name x) ) But thanks !
1287 [10:51:30] <bazhang> np!
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1295 [10:57:38] <bezaban> !say !say implode
1296 [10:57:38] <dpkg> !say implode
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1336 [11:25:59] <MrDetonia> Hi, has anyone had problems with the
recent mono upgrade on Stable? I have a very messy failed
installation:
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1338 [11:26:13] <MrDetonia> seems an issue calling gacutil is the
root cause
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1341 [11:26:56] <nkuttler> ,v mono-gac
1342 [11:26:57] <judd> Package: mono-gac on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.10.8.1-8+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2.10.8.1-8+deb7u1; jessie:
3.2.8+dfsg-10; sid: 4.6.2.7+dfsg-1; stretch: 4.6.2.7+dfsg-1
1343 [11:27:05] <nkuttler> MrDetonia: you're not using debian
packages
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1345 [11:28:03] <MrDetonia> ach, I'd forgotten that was
included. Will check what xamarin is building against
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1382 [11:54:14] <BluesKaj> HI folks
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1393 [12:03:22] <xyz7> hi
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1432 [12:23:42] <pc> hey everybody - i got a problem with luks,
anybody willing to help?
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1434 [12:24:44] <zykotick9> pc: you should describe your
problem/issue....
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1440 [12:26:49] <pc> Cryptography Setup fails to start after 3
failed password attempts. Though I'm sure I type in the correct
password every time. System log also tells me that before I get to
password entry "uinput" module can't be loaded.
Starting Load Kernel Modules fails shortly after.
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1450 [12:30:02] <DexterF> hi
1451 [12:31:11] <DexterF> monitor cpu/ram usage, possibly for
specific processes over time and then have it in a nice diagram like
for example vmware usage statistics, is there a tool to do that?
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1478 [12:46:44] <Chrismeister> I have created a script that rsync
a file to a different location after which it loggs with the logger
command. When I run this script via terminal as root everything
works including the logging. I have also created a cronjob that runs
this script every morning at 04:00. But this does not create any
logs.
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1482 [12:47:54] <Chrismeister> BTW, the cronjob requires full path
to the script right?
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1484 [12:48:10] <Chrismeister> It does not have any PATH?
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1491 [12:51:39] <petn-randall> Chrismeister: Correct, most
environent variables are not set when running things from cron.
1492 [12:51:49] <Chrismeister> petn-randall: I guess that's
my issue then
1493 [12:52:01] <Chrismeister> thx
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1497 [12:55:31] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
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1518 [13:05:43] <nikitasius> Hi, is it enought secure to give
access to sh (`ln -s bash-static sh`) in chroot of my chrooted
php-fpm under debian 8?
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1540 [13:21:37] <Stummi> nikitasius, depends what your
understanding of secure is
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1542 [13:22:21] <Stummi> nikitasius, generally, someone with a
shell can do anything your machine what his user rights are allowing
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1556 [13:34:12] <osx> Hi, how could i prevent that a package get
auto installed with dist-upgrade command in Debian 8?
1557 [13:34:39] <nikitasius> Stummi: thank you for answer.
it's a `/usr/sbin/nologin` user with home in same
chroot'ed folder.
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1559 [13:35:00] <osx> i would like to mark some package for not
beeing updated by the update routines
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1561 [13:36:20] <n4dir> !hold
1562 [13:36:20] <dpkg> hold is a status flag that tells the
package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a
package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or
'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude
hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update
Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use
holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See
also <hold list>, <unhold>.
1563 [13:36:36] <n4dir> but it think there is something like
apt-mark or such too.
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1567 [13:38:38] <osx> ok i noticed that already but is this also
working for dist-upgrade command?
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1569 [13:39:11] <osx> i think with dist-upgrade the package is
installed again then
1570 [13:39:28] <osx> in upgrade it is prevented from beeing
installed
1571 [13:40:33] <osx> i want that package also pürevented
from beeing installed when doing dist-upgrade
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1575 [13:41:33] <n4dir> i don't think so, but it would be
better if someone would know. For you it should be easy to test it.
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1578 [13:43:07] <petn-randall> osx: Try it and see.
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1586 [13:46:39] <g0zzy> Evince previous,next page buttons greyed
out. I googled it - nothing much. Is it just me?
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1596 [13:50:17] <g0zzy> Hang on - it seems to be a 'previous
_history_' button..
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1605 [13:58:07] <schneider> Hi, i'm using debian jessie, how
can I manage to mount my other hard drive partitions without asking
for root password?
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1610 [13:59:02] <doubledutch> schneider, have you ever edited the
fstab file? Check it out /etc/fstab and that tells your machine what
mounts at boot and how
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1612 [13:59:41] <CrazyTux> hello, I am unable to boot from the
live usb created for Debian Stable 64 edition.
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1614 [13:59:50] <schneider> doubledutch, thanks
1615 [13:59:59] <CrazyTux> It doesn't get detected duting
boot up.
1616 [14:00:09] <CrazyTux> I have this problem on my new laptop.
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1618 [14:00:36] <CrazyTux> I am able to boot from 32 bit edition
on my old laptop, though.
1619 [14:00:47] <CrazyTux> what could be the problem?
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1621 [14:01:35] <doubledutch> CrazyTux, first troubleshooting step
I would take, would be to try the USB in a different machine... that
way you can see if it works and narrow down the problem to either
the Debian box or the USB itself
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1625 [14:02:50] <CrazyTux> as I said I don't have this
problem on my old laptop which is of 10 years old.
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1627 [14:03:24] <doubledutch> Does the old laptop run Debian?
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1631 [14:04:20] <CrazyTux> I have tried the live usb of Debian
stable on my 32 bit machine. It works.
1632 [14:05:18] <CrazyTux> It is on my new laptop that the live
usb of debian 64 bit edition doesn't get detected.
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1636 [14:06:01] <CrazyTux> Ubuntu, Mint don't have any
problem loading on my new laptop.
1637 [14:06:02] <BluesKaj> CrazyTux, do you have usb boot enabled
in the urfi/bios?
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1639 [14:06:12] <BluesKaj> uefi/bios
1640 [14:06:13] <CrazyTux> yes. It is enabled.
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1642 [14:06:26] <CrazyTux> I think it is uefi.
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1644 [14:06:40] <BluesKaj> ok then make the usb stick first in the
boot sequence as well
1645 [14:06:59] <rwn> aloha, I get following error when trying to
"sudo apt --fix-broken install"
replaced-url
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1647 [14:07:41] <rwn> can't find anything about it and
can't purge the package et.c. not sure what to do
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1649 [14:07:48] <CrazyTux> that option is not available. I mean,
when try to boot from live usb of debian, that option is not
reflected.
1650 [14:08:09] <rwn> I got it after building vim from source with
py3 support
1651 [14:08:54] <CrazyTux> to check whether there is any problem
with the pendrive or the method of creating that live usb, I created
one for ubuntu. It doesn't have any problem.
1652 [14:09:23] <CrazyTux> I used the same method for creating the
live usb, same tool.
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1654 [14:09:27] <Shadow_7> CrazyTux: You might need to disable
secure boot and enable legacy/CSM to boot the USB.
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1656 [14:09:53] <CrazyTux> just a minute. Let me check that.
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1659 [14:10:09] <Shadow_7> CrazyTux: And you probably have a spam
key to select it after power on. ESC on my hp stream 11. F12 on my
gateway desktop.
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1661 [14:11:31] <CrazyTux> secure boot is disabled.
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1664 [14:12:10] <Shadow_7> Without the spam key, I have to boot
windows to get to the UEFI (9+ clicks later and two boots), and
change USB to be first plus F10 to save and exit (but boot usb first
works that time, but does NOT "save".
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1669 [14:14:07] <Shadow_7> CrazyTux: also, this desktop only seems
to boot with MBR based partitioning. atm, I use a live usb to
$(configfile (hd1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg) after $(insmod part_gpt) and
$(insmod ext2) at grubs command prompt "C".
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1671 [14:15:10] <Shadow_7> To get to the SSD that I formatted GPT.
Too lazy to reformat / re-install, plus gpt seemed recommended for
SSDs.
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1680 [14:18:04] <CrazyTux> secure boot is disabled and legacy usb
support is enabled now.
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1683 [14:19:39] <Shadow_7> legacy / CSM ... not really usb, but
the wording varies between UEFI venders.
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1689 [14:20:56] <CrazyTux> I am not sure if it is BIOS or UEFI.
how can I find that out.
1690 [14:21:14] <Shadow_7> If it has an option for secure boot,
99% sure it's UEFI
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1693 [14:21:34] <BluesKaj> CrazyTux, if it's brand new
it'
1694 [14:21:41] <BluesKaj> UEFI
1695 [14:22:36] <BluesKaj> UEFI is default on pcs and laptops
since 2010
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1697 [14:23:13] <Shadow_7> PC specs haven't changed much
since then beyond UEFI. Except on the high end more expensive
things.
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1703 [14:25:39] <CrazyTux> then it is UEFI.
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1719 [14:32:15] <troulouliou_div2> hi a few years ago i managed to
install debian on a kvml guest without any install iso. simply by
configuring kvm with remote kernel/initrd + console
1720 [14:32:32] <troulouliou_div2> i can't find any guide now
, could somebody just point me to a good tuto regarding this
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1722 [14:33:09] <Shadow_7> troulouliou_div2: debootstrap?
1723 [14:33:50] <troulouliou_div2> Shadow_7, no it wxas more like
a qemu/kvm / libvirt param to boot on remote kernel/initrd and then
launch installation
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1725 [14:34:29] <Shadow_7> troulouliou_div2: so PXE boot (aka
remote network booting)
1726 [14:34:45] <troulouliou_div2> Shadow_7, pxe works over
internet ?
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1728 [14:34:57] <troulouliou_div2> i tought it was local dhcp +
tftp only
1729 [14:34:59] <Shadow_7> over network, internet is also a
network
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1731 [14:35:03] <CrazyTux> hello..
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1734 [14:35:25] <CrazyTux> any help?
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1736 [14:35:53] <troulouliou_div2> Shadow_7, don't think so i
ll post as soon as i ll find
1737 [14:36:27] <Shadow_7> troulouliou_div2: there's jigdo to
create .iso by getting .debs. But probably not what you're
looking for either.
1738 [14:36:49] <troulouliou_div2> Shadow_7, no i know that one
too :)
1739 [14:37:10] <Shadow_7> I should probably do virtualization
someday, but atm, 2GB is the max ram on my best system.
1740 [14:37:18] <troulouliou_div2> Shadow_7, in kvm you can start
a guest by specifying a kernel/initrd located on host filesystem
1741 [14:37:32] <troulouliou_div2> Shadow_7, it was around that
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1744 [14:38:29] <Shadow_7> troulouliou_div2: soo bootstrap? where
debootstrap creates a chroot environment, which you have to actually
chroot to install a kernel, or manually clone one over.
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1750 [14:39:24] <troulouliou_div2> Shadow_7, fiound it it is the
-l switch to virt-install
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1753 [14:39:45] <troulouliou_div2> Shadow_7,
replaced-url
1754 [14:39:54] <troulouliou_div2> Shadow_7, this will install a
guest without any iso
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1783 [14:54:46] <rwn> aloha, I get following error when trying to
"sudo apt --fix-broken install"
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1784 [14:54:48] <rwn> I got it after building vim from source with
py3 support
1785 [14:54:57] <rwn> can't find anything about it and
can't purge the package et.c. not sure what to do
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1791 [14:59:27] <theluckymike> if I'm connecting from debian
box to different devices via ssh, can I make it log my sessions in
separate logfiles?
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1805 [15:08:27] <davidl> Im trying to build libreoffice on Debian
Testing machine but ./autogen.sh shows unmet dependency libxslt but
I have libxml2 installed. Should I just download and instlal that
package manually?
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1808 [15:09:08] <tw> davidl: libxslt1-dev different package.
1809 [15:09:36] <Shadow_7> rwn: did you try deleting the
/var/cache/apt/archives/git*.*deb and installing again?
1810 [15:09:37] <davidl> ok thx
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1815 [15:10:21] <rwn> Shadow_7: yup, same
1816 [15:10:23] <Shadow_7> davidl: when building from source
you'll need a lot of -dev packages or you'll have unmet
deps. build-essential, devscripts, and others are probably needed
too
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1819 [15:11:28] <Shadow_7> davidl: apt-file is useful for finding
out which packages you need
1820 [15:11:56] <davidl> Shadow_7 thanks.
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1822 [15:12:21] <JyZyXEL> does anybody know what the scheduling
accuracy of 'smartd' is supposed to be? i've
scheduled a Long-test for 4am, but according to syslog it always
starts around 04:04:40, so its 4 minutes and 40 seconds off
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1825 [15:13:04] <n4dir> i would assume that "apt-get
build-dep libreoffice" would take care of the dependencies to
build. davidl
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1828 [15:13:43] <JyZyXEL> looks like this behaviour is present in
other debian machines too
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1832 [15:14:37] <davidl> n4dir ok, guess I'll do that.
1833 [15:14:44] <Shadow_7> JyZyXEL: is there an ntp daemon running
on those machines? Could be 4:00 on the local machine.
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1835 [15:15:03] <JyZyXEL> i run ntp on all my boxes
1836 [15:15:14] <davidl> n4dir: hehe, that was a lot of packages.
thanks for saving me a lot of time!
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1841 [15:16:08] <n4dir> davidl: let's hope it was the right
command (i wouldn't bet, only assume ...)
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1856 [15:21:35] <bionix> Hi
1857 [15:21:38] <bionix> How can I change the number of a disk in
mdadm raid ?
1858 [15:21:40] <bionix> md0 : active raid5 sdc1[4] sdb1[0]
sdd1[3]
1859 [15:21:46] <bionix> I want sdc1 in 2
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1866 [15:24:20] <bezaban> bionix: if you don't have any data
on it or your setup facilitates it you could just remove and add it.
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1867 [15:24:36] <jelly> bionix: you don't, that internally
used member number is not important
1868 [15:24:55] <bezaban> oh. change number, I misunderstood.
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1870 [15:25:21] <bezaban> for some reason I understood that as
moving it to another array
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1894 [15:34:54] <jelly> bionix: otherwise, people in #linux-raid
channel may know more or point you to right docs
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1897 [15:37:11] <bumbar> i'm trying to run screen (from a
script) for user x (to which i switch from root) and am getting
"Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please
check.". i've tried adding "script /dev/null" to
script, but didn't start the screen
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1912 [15:41:06] <mns> bumbar: I didn't think screen could be
scripted like that.
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1917 [15:42:01] <rwn> aloha, I get following error when trying to
"sudo apt --fix-broken install"
replaced-url
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1920 [15:43:06] <jelly> ,v git
1921 [15:43:07] <judd> Package: git on amd64 -- wheezy:
1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy3; wheezy-security: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy3;
wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.1.4-2.1+deb8u2;
jessie-security: 1:2.1.4-2.1+deb8u2; sid: 1:2.11.0-2; stretch:
1:2.11.0-2; experimental: 1:2.12.0~rc1+next.20170216-1
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1924 [15:43:21] <jelly> rwn: which debian release is this supposed
to be
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1932 [15:48:14] <bumbar> mns, everything can be scripted :)
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1947 [15:50:28] <bionix> thank you
1948 [15:50:29] <jelly> bumbar: what's the exact command line
you're using? Start it "detached" if possible.
1949 [15:51:00] <mns> bumbar: what is the full script like ?
1950 [15:51:10] <jelly> bumbar: search for "-d -m" in
the manual
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1953 [15:52:12] <bumbar> jelly, mns, i have -dm screen's
options, here's the full script:
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1954 [15:52:53] <bumbar> i su'd to user, did "script
/dev/null" and screen is still not running when i run the
script
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1959 [15:53:51] <rwn> jelly: Debian 9 testing
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1966 [15:58:42] <jelly> rwn: pastebin the outputs of "ls -ld
/usr/lib/git-core/{git,git-add}" and "dpkg -l git | tail
-n 1"
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1970 [16:00:09] <jelly> rwn: also, is your filesystem full
("df", "df -i"? Are you using some crazy
experimental filesystem type like btrfs?
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1976 [16:01:09] <rwn> jelly: no directory called
/usr/lib/git-core/, second command gave out "iU git 20170224-1
amd64 Package created with checkinstall 1.6.2"
1977 [16:01:26] <rwn> jelly: no, I'm not and there's
space left, 1% used
1978 [16:01:51] <rwn> I think I got it after building vim from
source with py3 support
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1984 [16:04:53] <CrazyTux> hi, I am not able to chat on ##linux.
How can I do that?
1985 [16:06:31] <rwn> CrazyTux:
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1988 [16:07:25] <CrazyTux> ok. thanks a lot.
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1998 [16:17:00] <jelly> rwn: purge that custom package first.
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2000 [16:17:49] <jelly> rwn: dpkg -P git, or apt purge git. Then
try installing the one from repo, again.
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2003 [16:18:40] <rwn> jelly: dpkg -P git did it, thanks. I'd
tried purging with apt earlier but it gave out the same message.
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2031 [16:28:50] <awal1> why I get this
replaced-url
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2034 [16:29:31] <Dev0n> hey, is it possible to enable tun without
rebooting?
2035 [16:30:03] <Dev0n> looks like the kernel was upgraded
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2037 [16:30:30] <awal1> systemctl start tun (or tun.service, if it
have a systemd unit service)
2038 [16:30:56] <awal1> and make it persistent systemctl enable
tun
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2040 [16:31:26] <jelly> awal1: that page looks as usual from here
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2043 [16:32:02] <Dev0n> awal1, Failed to start tun.service: Unit
tun.service failed to load: No such file or directory
2044 [16:32:16] <Dev0n> I noticed this on the staging server as
well and after a reboot, everything worked fine
2045 [16:32:25] <Dev0n> idk if this kernel upgrade did something
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2048 [16:32:38] <awal1> jelly, me I get: Index of
/release-critical
2049 [16:33:02] <Dev0n> and modprove tun = modprobe: ERROR: could
not insert 'tun': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown
parameter (see dmesg)
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2051 [16:33:09] <Dev0n> modprobe*
2052 [16:33:21] <awal1> name last modified size and the parent
directory and so...
2053 [16:33:55] <awal1> DevOn, I don't know what is tun
2054 [16:34:07] <CrazyTux> I am not able to chat on ##linux
2055 [16:34:25] <Dev0n> clearly :/
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2059 [16:34:46] <awal1> jelly, ok, now it is working as usual;
maybe it was a maintenance stuff
2060 [16:35:05] <BluesKaj> CrazyTux, register your nick, ask on
freenode how to
2061 [16:35:17] <BluesKaj> #freenode
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2064 [16:35:52] <CrazyTux> yes. on #freenode.
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2069 [16:36:45] <BluesKaj> CrazyTux, I see you in the #linux
nicklist
2070 [16:36:56] <BluesKaj> err ##linux
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2072 [16:37:14] <CrazyTux> but, I'm not able to send messages
and interact there.
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2074 [16:37:47] <brokency1le> Hi! Yesterday, I ran a dist-upgrade
on my laptop, which had a recent Testing already.
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2076 [16:38:04] <CrazyTux> Insufficient parameters for REGISTER.
2077 [16:38:06] <CrazyTux> Syntax: REGISTER <password>
<email>
2078 [16:38:19] <brokency1le> Since, I have trouble with resizing
terminal windows and changing font sizes.
2079 [16:38:20] <CrazyTux> this is the response I am getting
there.
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2082 [16:38:48] <brokency1le> I'm using awesome, and
yesterday it got me 4.x, and Sakura.
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2085 [16:39:09] <brokency1le> Basically, trying to change the font
size, or to resize the terminal window, seems to
2086 [16:39:17] <BluesKaj> CrazyTux, you should be registering on
the server page , not in #freenode
2087 [16:39:26] <brokency1le> block for ages, or not reacting to
my mouse movements.
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2089 [16:40:14] <brokency1le> I have already removed my custom
awesome configuration, as directed.
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2091 [16:41:39] <CrazyTux> where is that server page? BluesKaj?
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2094 [16:41:50] <John__> did anyone manage to actually get the
opensans font in debian on lxde?
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2097 [16:42:23] <John__> I installed the
replaced-url
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2099 [16:42:39] <BluesKaj> CrazyTux, the freenode tab without the
# in front
2100 [16:43:24] <CrazyTux> ok
2101 [16:43:24] <awal1> ,v tun
2102 [16:43:25] <judd> No package named 'tun' was found
in amd64.
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2104 [16:43:32] <jelly> CrazyTux: if you can open a query tab for
the NickServ service, do it there. /QUERY NickServ, or /MSG NickServ
2105 [16:43:34] <BluesKaj> if you're using the chat.freenode
server, CrazyTux
2106 [16:44:03] <jelly> they seem to be using something called...
-CrazyTux- VERSION ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 51.0.1/20170127014032]
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2113 [16:46:42] <BluesKaj> jelly, yeah i see that, dunno if a
browser will work
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2118 [16:48:57] <CrazyTux> I am using this ChatZilla.
2119 [16:49:14] <CrazyTux> freenode
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2129 [16:54:26] <WildPenguin> hello..
2130 [16:54:30] <charking> exit
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2132 [16:54:58] <John__> anyone?
2133 [16:55:12] <John__> I can't stand non-ClearType fonts :(
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2135 [16:55:45] <John__> or TrueType or whatever it's called.
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2160 [17:06:16] <PaulePanter> Hi. How fast should a connection to
deb.debian.org (replaced-url
2161 [17:06:41] <PaulePanter> Fetched 55.9 MB in 29s (1,875 kB/s)
2162 [17:06:49] <PaulePanter>
replaced-url
2163 [17:07:13] <PaulePanter> This morning with cdn-fastly I had
10 MB/s.
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2168 [17:09:21] <cyphix> I have a problem with icedove. It does
not start anymore. When I try to launch it from the terminal, it
immediately gives me the prompt back, without displaying any
message. Any idea what it happens and how to fix it?
2169 [17:09:43] <babilen> PaulePanter: That really depends on your
downlink
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2176 [17:11:28] <PaulePanter> babilen: I know, but in this case
it’s a research institut with a 100 MBit/s up- and downlink.
2177 [17:11:47] <PaulePanter> babilen: So I’d say it’s
independent from that in my case.
2178 [17:12:34] <mtn> cyphix, souns like it is running in the
background. check your processes
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2187 [17:15:29] <cyphix> mtn: no, it's not, and that's
what's weird
2188 [17:15:39] <babilen> PaulePanter: In which case you should
get "enormous speed" - But who knows how your AS is
peering
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2192 [17:15:59] <jelly> PaulePanter: what apt does on an update or
upgrade, is different from getting one large file and streaming it
as fast as it can go
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2197 [17:16:11] <mtn> cyphix, rename your .icedove folder and then
try starting it
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2202 [17:17:24] <jelly> I have my own mirror and a gigabit
connection to the DC and still apt-get update takes its sweet time
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2204 [17:17:41] <jelly> rreds don't help
2205 [17:17:54] <PaulePanter> babilen: Indeed, I need to check
that.
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2209 [17:18:37] <PaulePanter> jelly: Then something else a miss,
as I get 10 MB/s (megabyte) at home over TV cable with apt-get
….
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2215 [17:19:41] <babilen> PaulePanter: There might also be mirrors
in your education network with which you peer directly (e.g. other
universities/research institutes) - also downloading multiple small
packages will take longer.
2216 [17:19:59] <jelly> PaulePanter: apt is totally not optimized
for speed at all. The version in stretch will be a bit better.
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2218 [17:20:24] <lhx> PaulePanter: apt in sid is much faster than
apt in jessie
2219 [17:20:39] <lhx> i don't really use apt in jessie, but I
do a bunch in sid
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2223 [17:22:16] <jhutchins_wk> PaulePanter: I have always assumed
that downloads from the mirrors were limited at the server, either
by load or throttling.
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2225 [17:22:27] <jhutchins_wk> PaulePanter: sid may be faster
simply because it has fewer users.
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2227 [17:23:49] <jhutchins_wk> PaulePanter: With other distros
I've definitely experienced a severe drop in performance when
there's a fresh release, and I almost always see significantly
less than my theoretical speed on downloads.
2228 [17:24:02] <jhutchins_wk> PaulePanter: Catalog updates tend
to go quickly on good connections.
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2230 [17:24:47] <cyphix> mtn: still nothing
2231 [17:25:14] <mtn> cyphix, odd. tried purging and reinstalling
icedove?
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2241 [17:28:40] <jhutchins_wk> cyphix: Also look for (hidden)
files in your home directory, check perms, etc. Consider moving them
aside or testing as a new user.
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2246 [17:29:31] <PaulePanter> jhutchins_wk: Interesting.
I’ll keep an I on that to hopefully pinpoint the bottleneck.
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2260 [17:37:19] <jhutchins_wk> cyphix:
replaced-url
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2264 [17:38:12] <jhutchins_wk> ,v thunderbird
2265 [17:38:13] <judd> Package: thunderbird on amd64 -- sid:
1:45.7.1-1
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2354 [18:20:09] <transhuman_> can anyone tell me how do i resolve
error config variable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined...I realize I
am half way between debian and alpine-linux...but this seems to be
my last error...its almost as if its not seeing the envvars file
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2370 [18:26:11] <jhutchins_wk> transhuman_: Define APACHE_LOG_DIR
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2376 [18:28:41] <transhuman_> normally jhutchins_wk its defined in
envvars and envvars is loaded by what?
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2381 [18:29:11] <transhuman_> I think i haven't put this last
link in there properly to get it to do it the debian way
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2405 [18:36:16] <keltim> transhuman_, envvars should be loaded by
/etc/init.d/apache2 ... I'm not sure how the unit file
interacts with it though
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2407 [18:36:37] <transhuman_> thanks for the hint keltim
2408 [18:36:51] <keltim> I've occaissionally had that problem
but solved by just ". /etc/apache2/envvars" in my shell
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2413 [18:40:14] <keltim> my gripe currently is that many services
do not exit >0 when starting a service fails. squid and now
apache. Am I doing something wrong?
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2415 [18:41:42] <keltim> whether by systemctl start service or
/etc/init.d/service start
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2421 [18:44:26] <keltim> are we not to depend on init scripts or
unit files exit codes anymore?
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2423 [18:45:34] <drupi> Hi. I'd like to install debian with
RAID 1 support. I wonder, how does the system (grub) know that it
must use RAID when booting?
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2426 [18:46:16] <yukip> bios does raid, grub only sees one drive
2427 [18:46:31] <yukip> unless software raid
2428 [18:46:43] <drupi> yukip: this would be software raid
2429 [18:46:44] <keltim> which is probably what drupi is refering
to
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2432 [18:47:31] <drupi> i guess there would be an initramfs which
loads raid support?
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2435 [18:48:31] <keltim> I assume grub references an mdX which is
created by the ram image containing the appropriate software raid
drivers, but it's been a while since I fooled with software
raid
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2438 [18:49:42] <keltim> or it could be like lilo and boot from
either one referenced by its device name, not sure
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2452 [18:59:57] <transhuman_> thanks for that keltim I will use
that method if I have to but I am trying to replicate the debian way
of running apache on alpine linux so I am trying to coordinate a
better solution
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2456 [19:02:10] <uzjsn> is there some piece of software which
takes a .deb file and makes a repo from it?
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2460 [19:03:01] <jelly> uzjsn, there are loads, reprepro is one.
Ask the bot about other options: /msg dpkg reprepro, /msg dpkg own
repo
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2462 [19:03:31] <dmitry> Hello!
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2464 [19:03:51] <dmitry> I just added more verbose output to
checkbashisms script, but I don't know how to send pull-request
to this repo:
replaced-url
2465 [19:04:09] <dmitry> Good script btw
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2469 [19:04:54] <jelly> dmitry, maybe file a Priority: wishlist
bug on devscripts package?
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2472 [19:07:25] <dmitry> No bugs, I just added more output to
script for example: possible bashism in ../bash/saymyname line 54
($MACHTYPE should be "$(gcc -dumpmachine"):
2473 [19:07:47] <dmitry> I just don't know how to make
pull-request
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2477 [19:08:15] <jhutchins_wk> transhuman_: Sorry, it's
defined in the apache config files in /etc/apache/
2478 [19:08:37] <jhutchins_wk> transhuman_: It can be in different
places depending on who sets it up.
2479 [19:09:02] <jhutchins_wk> Usually though the directory is
defined in the main file: /etc/apache/conf/apache.conf
2480 [19:09:25] <jhutchins_wk> transhuman_: It can also be defined
per-host on a multi-site server.
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2482 [19:09:39] <jelly> dmitry, filing a wishlist bug is the most
obvious way I can think of to request a feature addition
2483 [19:09:49] <jhutchins_wk> transhuman_: Ah, yes, apache2 not
just apache.
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2489 [19:10:46] <dmitry> I asking for a console command to send
pull request with new version of script to server
2490 [19:10:53] <jhutchins_wk> transhuman_: It might be useful to
have a Debian VM available to check things. We can help you fix that
and you can figure out how to transfer things.
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2492 [19:11:16] <dmitry> Where is wishlist?
2493 [19:11:33] <psychoticwarrior> whats up dmitry
2494 [19:11:37] <greycat> wishlist is a priority that you assign
to a bug
2495 [19:12:06] <dmitry> I can do it myself, and want to send new
version of 'checbashisms' script to debian repo
2496 [19:12:41] <dmitry> I'm fine, how are you?
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2499 [19:13:00] <John__> did anyone manage to actually get the
opensans font in debian on lxde?
2500 [19:13:08] <John__> I installed the
replaced-url
2501 [19:13:10] <jelly> dmitry, maybe ask in #debian-mentors or
irc.oftc.net (= irc.debian.org) if they know of an easier way to
contribute
2502 [19:13:19] <jelly> on* irc.oftc.net
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2505 [19:13:47] <dmitry> join #debian-mentors
2506 [19:13:53] <jelly> different irc network
2507 [19:14:06] <dmitry> ok
2508 [19:14:12] <jelly> this is freenode, OFTC is different server
2509 [19:15:03] <John__> was that addressed to me?
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2511 [19:15:33] <dmitry> Thanks
2512 [19:16:16] <jelly> John__, nope
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2528 [19:24:21] <Shadow_7> John__: perhaps you need to do manual
steps. fc-cache -f -v
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2531 [19:24:57] <Shadow_7> John__: or mkfontscale, mkfontdir in
the path that it exists. Although in theory the package management
system should handle that stuff.
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2539 [19:26:25] <Shadow_7> John__: it should show up in fc-list
(face name) and xlsfonts (long name). Bitmap fonts might need extra
steps. dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
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2574 [19:47:38] <Xorin_5s5> Can I use nestat to see the ping from
a different user?
2575 [19:48:13] <greycat> ping does not create TCP or UDP sessions
2576 [19:48:24] <greycat> (hell, even UDP doesn't even create
a sessioN)
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2578 [19:49:04] <Xorin_5s5> I saw a raw protocol
2579 [19:49:08] <greycat> though to be honest, I am not entirely
sure what you mean by "the ping"
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2581 [19:49:52] <Xorin_5s5> the ping command
2582 [19:50:04] <greycat> It sends an ICMP packet. There's no
trackable state.
2583 [19:50:19] <greycat> What are you trying to do?
2584 [19:52:26] <bezaban> you can see incoming icmp with a packet
sniffer
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2588 [19:53:10] <Xorin_5s5> I realised that someone logged in on a
different tty and left the ping command running cause he didn't
knew how to stop it. I could see its process with who but I was
curious why in nestat I can't see it
2589 [19:53:11] <bezaban> assuming you have something like that
available on the device it hits
2590 [19:53:37] <bezaban> oh right. misunderstanding again.
disregard
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2593 [19:54:04] <greycat> Because ICMP packages are instantaneous
blips, not keeping a "session" open that netstat can
reprot.
2594 [19:54:12] <greycat> Bah. Packets. report.
2595 [19:55:27] <Xorin_5s5> Damn. Thanks a lot anyway
2596 [19:55:50] <teraflops> Xorin_5s5: use e.g tcpdump
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2604 [19:59:22] <teraflops> oh I missread it too :S
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2620 [20:03:14] <transhuman_> thanks jhutchins_wk, I have one and
debian works I just seem to be missing a small piece of the puzzle
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2648 [20:19:24] <transhuman_> heltim thanks a lot for all your
help..I ended up going with your work around, I added the line to
the /etc/init.d/apache2 file
2649 [20:20:08] <transhuman_> I think the bottom line has
something to do with the init scripts being written totally
different.
2650 [20:20:16] <transhuman_> anyways thanks
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2704 [20:40:36] <Dexter_F> heya
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2707 [20:41:26] <Dexter_F> I must have compiled and installed a
version of taglib to /usr/local at some point, now it is used
instead of the one in the deb, which by now is newer
2708 [20:41:34] <Dexter_F> how do I get it out cleanly?
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2710 [20:41:49] <greycat> If you didn't use anything like
stow, just rm it.
2711 [20:42:08] <somiaj> Dexter_F: if you have the source you may
be able to 'make install' from the source tree, or as
greycat suggests
2712 [20:42:14] <somiaj> arg make uninstall
2713 [20:42:49] <Dexter_F> can't find the src, must have
rm'ed it assuming not needed anymore.
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2715 [20:42:56] <somiaj> note you may have to rm stuff from
/usr/local/bin, /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/share
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2717 [20:43:22] <somiaj> Dexter_F: not all sources have an
uninstall make target, so it may have not worked anyways.
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2719 [20:43:54] <teste> Hi, i'm trying install a new package
version and received this error:
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2722 [20:44:17] <teste> status triggers-pending systemd:amd64
215-17+deb8u6
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2729 [20:46:16] <somiaj> teste: what does dpkg --configure -a do?
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2732 [20:46:49] <somiaj> teste: and it errored out and gave you
back a prompt, it didn't just take time to do whatever it
needed to do?
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2734 [20:47:19] <minibar> hey guys
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2737 [20:48:04] <minibar> trying to run postgresql temporarily on
a filesystem backup I have, but it says it can't create a ipv4
socket. tried many ports always the same
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2739 [20:48:11] <linuxthefish> hey, what could "insserv:
Starting startencryptd depends on minissdpd and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!" mean? O.o
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2742 [20:48:35] <teste> somiaj dpkg --configure -a has this
output:
2743 [20:48:35] <somiaj> ,v apt
2744 [20:48:36] <judd> Package: apt on amd64 -- wheezy-security:
0.9.7.9+deb7u6; wheezy: 0.9.7.9+deb7u7; jessie-security: 1.0.9.8.4;
jessie: 1.0.9.8.4; stretch: 1.4~rc1; sid: 1.4~rc2
2745 [20:48:40] <teste> dpkg --configure -a Processing triggers
for systemd (215-17+deb8u6) ...
2746 [20:48:40] <dpkg> teste: You are person #1 to send an
unparseable request
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2748 [20:49:38] <somiaj> teste: please paste the whole output at
paste.debian.net -- that output seems fine, it sounds like it needs
to finish running the postinstall script.
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2750 [20:50:00] <minibar> this is the command I used for
postgresql
replaced-url
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2752 [20:50:17] <Dexter_F> gets weirder. I can't find that
old libtag. pkg-config mentions /usr/local in its .pc file but there
is libtag.a, not any .so. what's .a then?
2753 [20:50:45] <somiaj> teste:
replaced-url
2754 [20:50:46] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
2755 [20:50:55] <greycat> Dexter_F: .a is the static library
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2757 [20:51:13] <greycat> If there is no shared lib, or if you
link with -static, it'll use the static library
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2759 [20:51:51] <somiaj> minibar: running this as root?
2760 [20:52:00] <minibar> somiaj as postgres
2761 [20:52:14] <minibar> as root is not allowed
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2765 [20:52:28] <somiaj> linuxthefish: are you running jessie?
What command did you run to trigger that error? If using systemd you
should see what systemctl status service outputs vs using the old
sysvinit tools (which have a compadability layer)
2766 [20:52:44] <minibar> Im in a bit of an emergency, any quick
hacks appreciated
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2768 [20:52:49] <somiaj> minibar: did you try any ports over 1024,
normal users dno't have permision to open up low numbered
ports.
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2770 [20:53:21] <linuxthefish> somiaj it's wheezy :S
2771 [20:53:22] <minibar> somiaj yes 44434 12345 44444
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2773 [20:53:42] <somiaj> minibar: well that was my only idea,
maybe someone else might know more, or try a postgres channel
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2775 [20:53:55] <minibar> isn't this about permissions or
something?
2776 [20:54:03] <somiaj> linuxthefish: ahh, well check the LSB
header of the init script in /etc/init.d/, seems it has a dependency
that isn't being met
2777 [20:54:35] <somiaj> minibar: did you chroot into this backup
filesystem?
2778 [20:54:48] <linuxthefish> i don't even want startencry
stuff :(
2779 [20:54:50] <somiaj> minibar: my only thought on permisions
was a non-root user trying to open up a low port number, but that
done'st seem to be the case.
2780 [20:55:22] <minibar> somiaj not at all
2781 [20:55:46] <minibar> 0700 in all files for the postgres
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2783 [20:56:00] <minibar> owned by postgres
2784 [20:56:04] <linuxthefish> ah sorted nvm somiaj thanks, i just
deleted this crap :p
2785 [20:56:08] <jspiros> I'm getting "lockd: cannot
monitor <client>" errors in dmesg
2786 [20:56:19] <minibar> its LOG: could not bind IPv4 socket:
Address already in use
2787 [20:56:19] <jspiros> and the client can't access NFS
shares without stalling
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2789 [20:56:42] <jspiros> I /used/ to be able to restart
nfs-common, and that would magically fix this
2790 [20:56:50] <teste> somiaj sorry man, i had another problems
in here. I'll try come back here to find or to give a solution.
Thx
2791 [20:56:51] <jspiros> but now
/lib/systemd/system/nfs-common.service -> /dev/null
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2793 [20:57:20] <somiaj> minibar: well those were my two thoughts,
either a low level port or you didn't hvae /dev, /proc, /sys
inside the chroot. I cannot think of any other reason it won't
be able to open up that port.
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2795 [20:57:29] <greycat> "address already in use" is
pretty clear
2796 [20:57:47] <minibar> greycat i've tried at least 10
different ports
2797 [20:57:55] <minibar> random
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2799 [20:58:10] <somiaj> you can see if they are being used with
netstat, there is alos the error could not open usermap file
"/postgrebackup/9.4/main/pg_ident.conf"
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2803 [20:59:09] <jspiros> does anyone have any suggestions for how
I can fix this problem? I've tried restarting nfs-kernel-server
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2805 [20:59:19] <jspiros> as well as rpcbind, not sure why, but
figured I'd try
2806 [20:59:21] <lhx> jspiros: have you tried turning it off and
on?
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2809 [21:00:23] <lhx> maybe you've updated your kernel and
you need to reboot
2810 [21:00:29] <bezaban> minibar: is it a remotely mounted
filesystem? are you sure you have the permissions? any special mount
flags? This is just general troubleshooting. Do you have SELinux,
Apparmor or similar?
2811 [21:00:41] <jspiros> lhx: nope, this is after a fresh boot
2812 [21:00:44] <bezaban> this is just general troubleshooting,
not really looking for anything specific
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2814 [21:01:06] <bezaban> oh, I put that in the first line
2815 [21:01:51] <minibar> bezaban local fs, I don't have any
of those afaik
2816 [21:02:06] <bezaban> hm
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2819 [21:03:08] <minibar> somiaj they are not being used. after
running the postgres though they become like this:
replaced-url
2820 [21:03:09] <bezaban> have you tried explicitly binding to the
ip address?
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2822 [21:03:19] <minibar> bezaban how can I do that
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2825 [21:04:07] <bezaban> sec, I'll install it here
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2827 [21:04:26] <bezaban> often with debian there is a file in
/etc/default for that
2828 [21:04:41] <somiaj> hmm, strange it seems postgres is binding
to those ports, then trying to bind again
2829 [21:05:00] <bezaban> but that doesn't seem to be case
with postgres. likely in the conf then
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2834 [21:06:02] <somiaj> minibar: do you have any other ips
besides localhost for ipv4 configured. Seems it is binding to
locahost just fine, but not to your other ip, so maybe change the ip
from 0.0.0.0 to just 127.0.0.1 and connect via localhost
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2837 [21:06:24] <somiaj> which is what bezaban is suggesting
2838 [21:06:29] <bezaban> minibar: listen_addresses in
/etc/postgresql/9.4/main/postgresql.conf, but you can't change
that without root access
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2842 [21:06:36] <hp> Hi'
2843 [21:06:59] <bezaban> or HUP or restart the service :/
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2849 [21:08:05] <bezaban> oh wait, use your config from local fs
2850 [21:08:24] <bezaban> probably you can specify that from the
command line. I don't use postgres much though
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2852 [21:09:04] <bezaban> s/local fs/backup fs/
2853 [21:09:10] <bezaban> how are you starting it?
2854 [21:09:36] <minibar> somiaj correct, it is indeed working in
localhost, thanks for the help
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2856 [21:11:27] <lhx> jspiros: tried this
2857 [21:11:30] <lhx> ?:
replaced-url
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2866 [21:14:28] <bezaban> oh.
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2868 [21:14:46] <lhx> jspiros: ^^
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2883 [21:19:10] <yukip> screenshot time!,
replaced-url
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2934 [21:46:07] <cybrNaut> Debian users could have been protected
from CloudBleed if this 7-month old bug had been fixed:
replaced-url
2935 [21:46:08] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2939 [21:47:41] <somiaj> cybrNaut: what version of firefox does
that affect?
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2947 [21:49:07] <cybrNaut> somiaj: all of them
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2962 [21:53:54] <somiaj> cybrNaut: that sounds like a bug that
should be reported/sent upstream. If it has been fixed upstream you
should inform the matainer what version, though newer versions of
firefox will be brought in due to securty issues
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2977 [21:57:50] <cybrNaut> somiaj: the author of that report could
not report it upstream because the Mozilla bug tracker is hostile
toward anonymous contributors. There was a reliance on someone else
mirroring the report upstream
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2984 [22:01:28] <jspiros> lhx: thanks, I'll give that a try
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2986 [22:01:54] <jspiros> lhx: in the meantime, I just set nolock
on the clients' mounts, since I don't need locks anyway in
my use case, but I'll try that out and test, since I don't
like leaving things unfixed
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2995 [22:04:43] <Dexter_F> $ pkg-config --exists --print-errors
"taglib >= 1.9"
2996 [22:04:45] <Dexter_F> Requested 'taglib >= 1.9'
but version of TagLib is 1.8.0
2997 [22:04:53] <Dexter_F> I have no idea how it gathers that 1.8
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3001 [22:07:20] <Dexter_F> libtag1-dev, is that the dev package
for TagLib?
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3005 [22:07:48] <somiaj> Dexter_F: did you clean out all the older
stuff in /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/lib, /usr/local/share?
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3009 [22:09:08] <Dexter_F> somiaj: /usr/local/lib/libtag.a was the
only libtag fiel I could find other than the .so versions from the
official jessie package. I renamed it to .bkp.
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3012 [22:11:00] <somiaj> Dexter_F: -dev will contain .h files for
the headers, those might be on your system too
3013 [22:11:09] <somiaj> Dexter_F: find /usr/local
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3017 [22:12:20] <Dexter_F> somiaj:
replaced-url
3018 [22:12:53] <somiaj> Dexter_F: inside /usr/local/include, that
is where the headers (.h) files are located that your build is
finding.
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3020 [22:13:24] <somiaj> Dexter_F: the /bin/taglib-config as well,
I would just move all those out of /usr/local
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3026 [22:15:58] <Dexter_F> somiaj: moved them to /root, ran
ldconfig, still ./configure sees that 1.8.0 :(
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3039 [22:25:04] <pc> hey everybody - I got a really shitty problem
with a luks encrypted lvm drive and it's driving me mad - can
anybody please help me??
3040 [22:25:08] <Dexter_F> somiaj:
/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/taglib.pc says: Version: 1.8.0. just
delete?
3041 [22:25:25] <Dexter_F> pc: describe the problem
3042 [22:25:51] <somiaj> Dexter_F: I would remove all files
assoicated with that lib. The problem with local installs and not
using stow is you sometimes have to track them all down.
3043 [22:26:22] <pc> Dexter_F: so Cryptography Setup fails after 3
failed password attempts. I'm dead sure I'm using the
correct password. I tried mounting it in a live USB environment with
cryptsetup, didn't work either. I tried an older kernel.
Didn't work too.
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3050 [22:28:01] <Dexter_F> pc: obvious issues: keyboard setting?
fancy key in it like " which moves on different layouts?
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3052 [22:28:22] <Dexter_F> pc: does cryptsetup allow key files?
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3056 [22:28:58] <pc> Dexter_F: I tried with US Keyboard Layout -
didn't work. Is there anyway to check in the emergency shell
what layout I'm using? Also in the Live USB, I could double
check that the password is typed correctly...
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3061 [22:29:32] <pc> Dexter_F: not sure - I'm gonna check.
3062 [22:29:48] <Dexter_F> pc: hmm.. german keyboard?
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3064 [22:30:15] <Dexter_F> somiaj: deleted .pc files, now
continues in configure
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3067 [22:30:41] <pc> Dexter_F: yes
3068 [22:30:54] <Dexter_F> *do
3069 [22:31:03] <pc> Dexter_F: and it does allow keyfiles.
I'm trying it out right now.
3070 [22:31:11] <pc> Dexter_F: yes
3071 [22:31:14] <Hello71> REPLACEMENT CHARACTER
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3073 [22:31:34] <Dexter_F> Hello71: and a good evening to you, sir
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3076 [22:32:09] <pc> well. actually in the emergency shell it
doesn't find ä or alike. but typing in the password in
cleartext shows the same password.
3077 [22:32:17] <Dexter_F> pc: asked for keyfiles in case you used
one when creatign the volume and forgot it
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3079 [22:32:48] <Dexter_F> if you type the passwd in clear text
into the shell, does it look ok then?
3080 [22:32:53] <pc> Dexter_F: didn't set it up with a
keyfile.
3081 [22:32:56] <pc> Dexter_F: yup.
3082 [22:33:06] <Dexter_F> pc: same kernel?
3083 [22:33:10] <Dexter_F> same distro?
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3090 [22:33:46] <pc> Dexter_F: sorry - same kernel and same distro
as what?
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3092 [22:34:19] <Dexter_F> pc: oh, so you did not move the lvm and
the disk it sits on around or so, this setup worked liek that and
now stopped?
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3095 [22:34:42] <pc> Dexter_F: yeah right!
3096 [22:34:46] <Dexter_F> somiaj: thanks btw
3097 [22:35:03] <Dexter_F> pc: raid or single disk?
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3099 [22:35:11] <Dexter_F> pc: debian 8?
3100 [22:35:15] <pc> Dexter_F: it is incredibly strange, as I
didn't had any update before it happened or anything else...
3101 [22:35:31] <pc> Dexter_F: no it's qubes.
3102 [22:35:46] <Dexter_F> I don't know what qubes is.
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3105 [22:36:15] <pc> It's an operating system, based on linux
- but Cryptsetup works the same obviously.
3106 [22:36:39] <kInOzAwA> pc: I already answer you question on
qubes channel
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3109 [22:36:53] <pc> kInOzAwA: sry I didn't see that :O
3110 [22:36:58] <pc> kInOzAwA: what did you answer?
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3112 [22:37:13] <kInOzAwA> ask it again in the right channel
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3124 [22:43:38] <somiaj> pc: you should please respect our choice
here in #debian to support debian and not some other debian based
system.
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3127 [22:44:36] <jelly> or reproduce the issue on an actual debian
installation
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3130 [22:46:33] <Dexter_F> is it even deb based? I read it uses
rpm..
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3135 [22:47:31] <somiaj> still applies, (:
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3195 [23:11:28] <linuxfailsagain> how blacklist that dccp kernel
module? (it gives local user unauthorized root apparently)?
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3202 [23:13:14] <mcrt> linuxfailsagain:
/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
3203 [23:13:19] <Dexter_F> put it in blacklist?
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3210 [23:15:07] <Dexter_F> linuxfailsagain: you could use windows,
of course
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3215 [23:16:52] <linuxfailsagain> Dexter_F: I do
3216 [23:17:21] <linuxfailsagain> Dexter_F: and as for secure OS,
there is OpenBSD, or grsecurity
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3222 [23:18:53] <Dexter_F> linuxfailsagain: then why bother with
linux
3223 [23:19:15] <linuxfailsagain> Dexter_F: grsecurity is linux
3224 [23:19:39] <Dexter_F> linuxfailsagain: but isn't it
bound to fail
3225 [23:19:40] <linuxfailsagain> and some servers have pure
debian on it
3226 [23:19:53] <linuxfailsagain> Dexter_F: linux yes (as we see
each time), grsecurity nope
3227 [23:20:45] <linuxfailsagain> as for the blacklisting, I ask
since searching web leads to
replaced-url
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3230 [23:21:09] <lizzie> what's wrong with that wiki page?
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3232 [23:21:39] <linuxfailsagain> which mentions not just doing
"blacklist dccp", but also some strange install ..
/bin/true . Is that part still needed
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3235 [23:22:16] <lizzie> no, that's only if you need to
blacklist it so hard that it won't be loaded if you manually do
"modprobe dccp"
3236 [23:22:27] <lizzie> a regular blacklist line in the conf will
keep it from loading at boot
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3238 [23:23:03] <Dexter_F> I don't know, I'm just
working this up to the point where I can point out your nickname is
deliberately set to annoy people
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3242 [23:23:43] <lizzie> I find it easy to not take people like
that seriously :P
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3245 [23:23:52] <lizzie> "linux is so bad, please help me
with my linux" yeah ok, I'm soooo offended
3246 [23:24:10] <Dexter_F> lizzie: I want my trolls to have some
style.
3247 [23:24:33] <lizzie> problem is, people with style keep
finding better things to do besides troll :P
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3249 [23:25:18] <awal1> How to make my system not detect an extra
monitor without unplugging (unplug the extra monitor)?
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3252 [23:26:10] <awal1> I have several monitors here and tired
plugging/unplugging them
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3254 [23:26:33] <lizzie> awal1: to clarify, do you care if your
system doesn't detect the monitor, or is this just about your x
server not using it?
3255 [23:26:35] <Dexter_F> awal1: xrandr lets you control state
and relative position
3256 [23:26:57] <Dexter_F> I have some scripts here to for example
switch off the second head when I game
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3261 [23:27:46] <lizzie> yeah, scripting with xrandr is probably
what you want. technically X will still detect the monitor, but then
just not display to it
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3263 [23:27:57] <Dexter_F> xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --off <- it
will come up with two, tho, if you want that at start, you need to
edit xorg.conf, if you have an nvidia card I'd recommend their
setup tool (works only with binary drivera fair)
3264 [23:28:09] <Dexter_F> *driver afair
3265 [23:28:12] <awal1> lizzie, Dexter_F, I want to make my system
detect them and turn them on when needed not durring boot. xrandr
... --off turns off the extra monitors just in X
3266 [23:28:32] <awal1> basically I want them plugged but not
detected
3267 [23:28:35] <lizzie> you haven't specified when
they're needed
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3269 [23:28:44] <awal1> :P
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3271 [23:28:56] <Dexter_F> monitor blacklisting. well, what's
new.
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3273 [23:29:15] <lizzie> you also haven't explained what the
difference is between what you want, and turning off the monitors
just in X
3274 [23:29:15] <Dexter_F>
replaced-url
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3277 [23:30:33] <awal1> I mean detected but not displaying on them
since boot
3278 [23:30:53] <awal1> something like xrandr ... --off but since
boot
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3280 [23:31:10] <awal1> well, maybe a stupid idea
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3284 [23:31:26] <linuxfailsagain> Dexter_F: my nickname is correct
as evidenced by constant appearance of local-root bugs in linux.
It's just a gentle push so maybe someone can one day ask
someone to tell Linus to start be about security more like OpenBSD
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3286 [23:32:12] *** linuxfailsagain is now known as kittens123
3287 [23:32:20] <kittens123> but there you go Dexter_F if
you're so easily offended ;)
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3291 [23:33:26] <mcrt> linuxdaemon: openbsd hardware support is..
not there
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3293 [23:33:26] <awal1> Dexter_F, xorg.conf will not affect
tty's, obviously
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3295 [23:33:50] <Dexter_F> linuxfailsagain: sounds to me like you
keep failing to make decisions and measly whine in other peoples
faces instead
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3298 [23:34:03] <lizzie> awal1: often you can configure in your
bios what monitor your computer displays on at bootup. at least
initially, it's not up to linux
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3303 [23:34:56] <Dexter_F> awal1: I had to shift around my cabling
quite a bit before I got the proper head came up with grub. tty
usually only is on main
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3305 [23:35:15] <lizzie> awal1: ok here,
replaced-url
3306 [23:35:32] <lizzie> awal1: this describes how to use a kernel
parameter to instruct the framebuffer on which display(s) to use
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3308 [23:35:41] <lizzie> awal1: you will still have to configure X
itself appropriately
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3310 [23:36:05] <lizzie> your computer might still show the
initial POST and GRUB on whatever monitors it chooses, before the
kernel loads and takes control
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3312 [23:36:22] <lizzie> but I hope it helps. anything before
that, you'll have to see if your bios can be configured how you
want
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3314 [23:36:38] <Dexter_F> I remember someone once requested a
patch for the X checkerboard to be all black instead because they
used it on a military ship bridge and the captain was rather
niggling about what's a light source on his bridge and what
isn't
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3317 [23:37:16] <lizzie> Dexter_F: hehe. I can sympathize. I
generally sit in dark rooms and enjoy my all-black wallpapers :P
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3319 [23:37:18] <Dexter_F> we went him to Slackware which actually
patched that out since 2006 or so
3320 [23:37:26] <Dexter_F> *sent
3321 [23:37:29] <awal1> lizzie, Dexter_F, ok, thanks, I'll
check that (link), bios and blacklisting and see what I can do
3322 [23:37:29] <lizzie> oh hehe
3323 [23:37:37] <lizzie> these days it's not an issue because
nobody sees the x checkerboard right?
3324 [23:37:47] <lizzie> awal1: good luck
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3327 [23:38:00] <awal1> :)
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3331 [23:38:53] <Dexter_F> nah, those days are over. if back then
someone said we'd heave "kernel based mode switching"
on framebuffers... (yes I know, "I have been doing that for so
long" means "whoa look how things changed")
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3334 [23:40:16] <Dexter_F> gotta run, before kittens123/lfa
finishes the nmap sweep on me to prove a point ;)
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3341 [23:42:02] <Diogenes_> Good evening.
3342 [23:42:39] <Diogenes_> I just upgraded my system to testing,
and Gnome settings has stopped recognizing my touchpad.
3343 [23:42:53] <Diogenes_> Currently it works as a mouse would.
3344 [23:43:21] <mtn> Diogenes_, this is not #debian-next, or even
the correct server
3345 [23:43:36] <mtn> Diogenes_, they just told you the channel
name and location
3346 [23:44:09] <Diogenes_> Oh, I'm sorry.
3347 [23:44:43] <Diogenes_> Wait, they just directed me to look
for #debian-next
3348 [23:44:59] <Diogenes_> Should I look for it in Freenode,
then?
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3350 [23:45:12] <somiaj> Diogenes_: you should stop cross posting,
stick in one channel/network
3351 [23:45:15] <mtn> Diogenes_, no. it is on oftc.net, right
where you were ;)
3352 [23:45:40] <awal1> Diogenes_, connect to OFTC server (now you
are in Freenode) then connect to #debian-next channel
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3356 [23:47:00] <Diogenes_> Ok, I noticed where I messed up. XD
I'm going there now.
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3383 [23:57:33] <downloading> When i try to install Debian with a
usb I get this error
replaced-url
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3389 [23:58:36] <John__> did anyone manage to actually get the
opensans font in debian on lxde?
3390 [23:58:43] <John__> I installed the
replaced-url
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3392 [23:58:58] <John__> sorry for repeating myself.
3393 [23:59:04] <John__> just wondering if anyone has a solution.
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