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0 [00:00:00] <RoyK> !lsb
1 [00:00:00] <dpkg> rumour has it, lsb is Debian is dropping
LSB support; see
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2 [00:00:08] <jmcnaught> b6s3d: don't save it as a PNG.
copy the text to the paste site.
3 [00:00:26] <b6s3d> as you wish
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5 [00:00:45] <RoyK> sorry.... that was
6 [00:00:46] <RoyK> !sns
7 [00:00:46] <dpkg> Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious
disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time
something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about
<backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than
upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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9 [00:01:12] <teraflops> RoyK: please stop
10 [00:01:21] <RoyK> teraflops: I've already stopped
11 [00:01:33] <jmcnaught>
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12 [00:01:49] <teraflops> RoyK: lol?
13 [00:02:04] <b6s3d>
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14 [00:02:15] <awal1> bobol, well, unstable (sid) isn't
really weird, unstable doesn't mean broken system/less tested
pkgs, it mean IT changes, as jmcnaught told you, it's like a
rolling system. If you run a conservative desktop environment or
just X window manager with sid, and having a good habits and taking
care of your system, you can run sid just fine, for daily use tasks,
not production
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16 [00:02:38] <jmcnaught> b6s3d: what are you showing us? I
thought you had trouble doing "apt-get update"?
17 [00:02:56] <b6s3d> -.-
18 [00:03:01] <b6s3d> brb 3 min
19 [00:03:57] <bobol> awal1> all my application will be
inside docker or qemu-kvm
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21 [00:04:10] <bobol> I think that will let my system stable
22 [00:04:13] <awal1> bobol, conservative DE I mean xfce. If you
run gnome/kde/cinnamon in sid, then you will enjoy your time fixing
stuff, which thing makes you learn too :P
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25 [00:05:29] <awal1> bobol, a good choice is running jessie +
sid in a vm, if you are not an adventurous user :P
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27 [00:06:28] <bobol> I'm ^^
28 [00:06:37] <bobol> Ok I'll try debian unstable with
gnome :) I hope it not make me crazy
29 [00:06:40] <bobol> haha
30 [00:06:56] <awal1> gnome is broken right now in sid
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32 [00:07:12] <bobol> and in testing ?
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34 [00:07:28] <awal1> i dont know, i no use it
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36 [00:08:20] <bobol> perhaps I'll use testing and see
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47 [00:14:26] <bobol> I have a stupid job as a sysadmin. so I
need to contribute to some project or I'll become crazy -_-
48 [00:15:09] <b6s3d> jmcnaught: excuse my delay, i ran into
some meatballs
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51 [00:17:00] <b6s3d> i got those files i listed for you from my
vpn provider, but the guy who gave me them said they where for
advance users, i am not that advance yet so i thought coming here
might be a good idea. they are for a static public ip
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55 [00:18:48] <awal1> bobol, when something is broken in sid,
like gnome now, that means a dependencies problems, but similar
stuff are fixed in a few days, sometimes in less then 24/48 hours.
thats what broken means usually
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61 [00:19:49] <bobol> I understand
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70 [00:25:21] <bobol> I have to go to sleep
71 [00:25:27] <bobol> good night :)
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127 [00:46:01] <miesco> How do I see what debian packages I have?
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132 [00:47:49] <miesco> Well, I mean how do I tell what packages
from a backup of a computer?
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138 [00:50:26] <miesco> Is there log files or something?
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145 [00:56:10] <awal1> miesco, well, if you just want list all
the packages installed in your machine run dpkg -l
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147 [00:57:55] <miesco> awal1: I only have the files from the
machine
148 [00:58:28] <awal1> miesco, I don't understand
what's you want exactly
149 [00:58:40] <awal1> no clue if other peopel understood you
150 [00:59:16] <awal1> what you want ^
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171 [01:12:22] <chrislamp> hello all! I am using Debian as
desktop and I need very much to connect to windows 10 machines
shares. I have this bug as many other users:
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173 [01:13:14] <chrislamp> it seems that smbclient and nautilus
not working with windows10 at all
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177 [01:13:43] <chrislamp> it is logical for debian team to not
contain those fixes?? thank you
178 [01:14:10] <awilfox> hello there, I am trying to report a bug
with GNU Parted which appears to use the Trac instance on Alioth,
and er, it doesn't seem to be working very well
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179 [01:14:22] <awilfox> whom in Debian would I contact to report
this error and potentially have it fixed?
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181 [01:14:45] <awilfox> it doesn't seem like I can report
it via Trac, anyway...
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184 [01:15:33] <peterrooney> miesco: try /var/lib/dpkg/status
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190 [01:17:59] <PadawanLearner> aloha
191 [01:18:12] <petemc> chrislamp: windows 10 is a moving target,
hard to keep up with.
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197 [01:23:07] <ronkrt> I have a CD Iso how can I use a sub stick
too install from?
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202 [01:25:17] <petemc> ronkrt: /msg dpkg usb install
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204 [01:25:50] <ronkrt> thank you
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212 [01:32:54] <jelly> awilfox, hmm. See the topic in #alioth on
irc.oftc.net (= irc.debian.org)
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214 [01:34:42] <janemba> hi
215 [01:35:10] <janemba> when I try to mount nfs share I have the
following error :
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217 [01:35:14] <janemba> mount.nfs: mount(2): No such device
218 [01:35:16] <janemba> mount.nfs: No such device
219 [01:36:01] <janemba>
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224 [01:38:45] <chrislamp> petemc: other distributions have
already fixed this bug many time ago.
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228 [01:39:39] <chrislamp> it is so difficult for debian to go
from samba 4.2 to 4.4?
229 [01:39:56] <chrislamp> windows 10 installations getting more
and more
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245 [01:45:16] <jelly> janemba: which debian release is this? is
local rpcbind or portmap service running?
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247 [01:46:32] <janemba> jelly: this is a debian 8.5 and rpcbind
is running
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250 [01:47:54] <jelly> janemba: you need: portmap/rpcbind,
locally; portmap/rpcing and nfsd, remotely (check with: rpcinfo -p
remote-server-name); correct exports remotely (check with: showmount
-e remote-server-name)
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253 [01:48:08] <jelly> that's for nfs v3. v4 needs some more
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257 [01:49:55] <ronkrt> If my mouse isn't moving during
graphical install will it Not work when I boot?
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261 [01:51:24] <janemba> jelly: well, the export are ok I can
connect with another machine but I can't find portmap with
apt-cache
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263 [01:52:11] <jelly> janemba, that's fine, you need either
rpcbind or portmap, any of the two will do
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265 [01:52:36] <janemba> jelly: well rpcbind is alread started :(
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267 [01:52:54] <jelly> janemba: what does "rpcinfo -p
localhost" say?
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269 [01:53:04] <jelly> janemba: and also is nfs-common service
running?
270 [01:53:13] <jelly> on the client
271 [01:53:30] <janemba> jelly:
replaced-url
272 [01:53:43] <janemba> jelly: nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server
started
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284 [01:58:38] <jelly> you don't need nfs-kernel-server on
the _client_
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288 [01:59:50] <jelly> janemba, that's weird, only portmap
itself in the output as if nfs-common isn't active at all.
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290 [02:00:20] <janemba> jelly: oh
291 [02:00:36] <jelly> janemba, pastebin also: "systemctl
status nfs-common"
292 [02:00:41] <janemba> jelly: ok
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294 [02:01:47] <janemba> jelly:
replaced-url
295 [02:01:55] <janemba> jelly: seems portmap is needed
296 [02:02:35] <jelly> janemba, rpcbind implements the
"portmapper" thing nfs-common needs.
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298 [02:03:11] <jelly> janemba, try to restart nfs-common, then
try "rpcinfo -p localhost" and "systemctl status
nfs-common" again
299 [02:03:27] <janemba> ok
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302 [02:04:35] <janemba>
replaced-url
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306 [02:06:53] <jelly> that seems a bit better, try your mount
again
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309 [02:09:38] <janemba> hmm
310 [02:09:40] <janemba> same error
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312 [02:10:24] <jelly> what is the exact command line you're
using?
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315 [02:12:41] <janemba> mount -t nfs ip:/path/foo /mnt
316 [02:12:54] <janemba> I know the command is correct as it
works on another box
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319 [02:13:42] <jelly> that's not the exact command.
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321 [02:14:13] <jelly> I can't tell whether your mount point
is really /mnt or something else.
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327 [02:19:20] <janemba> /mnt is ok
328 [02:19:43] <janemba> the error says "mount.nfs: no such
device"
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338 [02:24:28] <miesco> Hi. Is there any possible threats when
sshing to a known host from a public wifi?
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357 [02:38:06] <Artemis3> miesco, sure, someone knows you are
doing an encrypted connection, don't do it in China.
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359 [02:39:55] <ronkrt> How do I configure my WiFi
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364 [02:43:33] <sm00th> hello all, is there a way to shrink an
encrypted ext4 root partition?
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366 [02:44:29] <curtis22> yes,
replaced-url
367 [02:44:31] <ronkrt> ):
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370 [02:45:08] <sm00th> curtis22, tks
371 [02:46:00] <curtis22> sm00th: no problem
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373 [02:46:24] <sm00th> curtis22, can I use any livecd, or should
it be a debian one?
374 [02:46:32] * extor ran a fresh install of debian 8, however the
only package selection menu he was presented with was this,
replaced-url
375 [02:47:57] <sm00th> extor, what iso you use?
376 [02:48:07] <curtis22> i did it with debian jessie (same as
the installed os )
377 [02:48:18] * extor suspects that when two conditions are present,
firstly no network connectivity during a fresh install and secondly
the only installation media being CD1(not DVD1) of debian8 that
perhaps due to the lack of window managers on CD1 there is no
further choices of a window manager presented to the installer
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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379 [02:48:27] <ronkrt> How do I manually choose my Wi-Fi network
as root in cmd?
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381 [02:48:37] <sm00th> but I mean what specific iso file, and di
you check the hash?
382 [02:49:46] <extor> Let me retrieve the exact url of the iso
file
383 [02:50:01] <sm00th> what if you try with the non graphical
install mode.
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385 [02:50:42] <extor>
replaced-url
386 [02:50:42] <extor>
rg/debian-cd/8.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.5.0-amd64-CD-1.iso
387 [02:50:58] * extor has tried it with the non graphical as well as
the graphical method
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389 [02:52:17] <ronkrt> Extor my install has the same options
only aswell
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392 [02:52:42] <extor> ronkrt, there was another person a coule
of hours ago who had the same issue
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394 [02:53:03] <extor> <miesco> How come I have hardly any
packages in my new install?
395 [02:53:23] <sm00th> you guys verify the hash or sig?
396 [02:53:26] <ronkrt> I can't figure out how to setup my
Wi-Fi I'm in the ps4 it installed ok
397 [02:53:33] <extor> ronkrt, but did your install give you an X
window manager?
398 [02:53:41] <ronkrt> Yes
399 [02:54:00] <ronkrt> But i have no app to doo Wi-Fi
400 [02:54:05] * extor recalls running a CD scan during install which
verifies the integrity of all listed packages
401 [02:54:38] <sm00th> I would check the sig too
402 [02:55:10] <sm00th> or i mean with debian check the sig of
the hashfile and then check the hash lol
403 [02:55:19] <ronkrt> Anyone know how to setup Wi-Fi from cmd
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405 [02:55:48] <sm00th> ronkrt, netctl I guess
406 [02:55:53] <ronkrt> I'm on my phone atm so it would be
useful info for me
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408 [02:56:00] <ronkrt> Lemme try
409 [02:56:22] <extor> 443272aea9729ce281a1bc5b258a4243
debian-8.5.0-amd64-CD-1.iso
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411 [02:56:36] <ronkrt> Not found
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413 [02:57:04] <extor> I assume if the checksum of the entire iso
is OK, then the sigs of each package have to be OK too
414 [02:57:17] <sm00th> extor, ya
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417 [02:57:34] <ikla> can you do batch commands with grub2?
418 [02:57:51] <wildbills> ronkrt iwconfig
419 [02:57:53] <RoyK> why?
420 [02:57:56] <extor> From what I recall those are some of the
new features of grub2
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422 [02:58:13] <ikla> grub 1 I did grub --batch < command_file
423 [02:58:18] <ikla> to easily configure bootloader
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425 [02:58:22] <ikla> can you still do that in 2?
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427 [02:58:43] <ronkrt> Great
428 [02:59:00] <ronkrt> I dunno how to use it:(
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430 [02:59:42] <sm00th> ronkrt, do you prefer to use a de?
431 [02:59:57] <ronkrt> Dr?
432 [03:00:05] <ronkrt> De?
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434 [03:00:28] <wildbills> ronkrt iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed
essid 'my_network' key 'xxxxxxxx'
435 [03:00:32] <sm00th> desktop environment, like kde, gnome,
etc...
436 [03:00:45] <extor> #grub would know
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438 [03:01:50] <sm00th> ronkrt, you can just use an iso that
comes with it. I use the kde iso.
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445 [03:03:07] <sm00th> extor, this paage might be helpful
replaced-url
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449 [03:03:31] <sm00th>
replaced-url
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451 [03:04:22] <ronkrt> I have the kde cd
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453 [03:04:43] <ronkrt> Tx_power=off. Good or bad?
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458 [03:06:01] <extor> sm00th, I wasnt the one having wifi
issues, that was ronkrt
459 [03:06:34] * extor was simply installing in a vmware virtual
machine with no network access(unusual in these times)
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467 [03:08:26] <ronkrt> How do I tell it to use dhcp?
468 [03:08:46] <extor> In my case it assumed I was using dhcp by
default
469 [03:09:31] <extor> this was after detecting a hard eth0
however, not a wifi interface but I assume the rules apply there too
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481 [03:15:26] <wildbills> ronkrt dhclient wlan0
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483 [03:16:01] <DoNotBeGay> I am the messenger of His Majesty the
Great Clown, Allah himself
484 [03:16:08] <DoNotBeGay> We must cleanse the world of fags,
jews, niggers, and pigs
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486 [03:17:42] <jmcnaught> !ops DoNotBeGay
487 [03:17:42] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught
complains about: DoNotBeGay
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489 [03:18:01] <sm00th> extor, lol my bad
490 [03:18:32] <sm00th> extor, in these times you always gotta
verify the iso its so crazy, maybe debian wants you to download de
iso if you want one i dunno. weird.
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493 [03:19:26] <sm00th> extor, wanna hear something weird.
everytime I install the kde iso, its a diff mouse cursor theme/color
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510 [03:33:43] <b3d0u1n> I'm pretty sure that I'm
missing something obvious, but where does Wheezy keep the list of
NTP servers it syncs with? My time accurate, so I know it's
syncing with something.
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526 [03:47:09] <b3d0u1n> So, these wheezy "machines"
are running in VMs on a Squeeze box. The Squeeze box has NTP
installed. The VMs were getting their time from the hardware clock.
That explains why I could not find the ntp settings on the wheezy
vms.
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528 [03:47:26] <b3d0u1n> (ticket closed)
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555 [04:11:15] <Tenacious-Techhu> Anyone know how to recover a
recently deleted file from the SD Card the OS is being run from?
556 [04:11:53] <Bennux> Hi, I recommend to use photorec
557 [04:12:30] <Bennux> installing the package
"testdisk"
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600 [04:46:26] <Tenacious-Techhu> Is photorec going to find text
files?
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605 [04:53:52] <Bennux> yes, photorec recovery all type of files
on the Drive.
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608 [04:57:04] <Bennux> But i no have idea how to select an
specific folder, only select the type of file to recovery
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611 [04:58:17] <awal1> Tenacious-Techhu, photorec may not recover
the whole content but around 80/90% usually...
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613 [04:59:34] <Tenacious-Techhu> I was trying to use debugfs
earlier, but it was confusing as hell.
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615 [05:00:02] <awal1> Any clue (if possible; seems not) on how
to handle screen margins under fluxbox?
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631 [05:08:52] <neldogz> Hi all, I am trying to get psensors to
see my CPU fan. My motherboard carries a nuvoTon NCT6793D chip that
can detect the fan speeds so I tried to load the driver for it using
modprobe -v nct6775 but psensor still doesn't see the fans.
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673 [05:43:55] <Elronnd> Can someone explain to me why I
can't uninstall firefox-esr without removing GNOME?
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676 [05:45:54] <jmcnaught> Elronnd: because it is a dependency of
the gnome-core package, which is a meta-package that depends on
other packages that together compose a GNOME desktop
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678 [05:46:56] <jmcnaught> Elronnd: removing the gnome-core and
task-gnome-desktop packages won't actually remove gnome, but if
you don't have the meta-packages you might not automatically
get new gnome-core dependencies during an upgrade (if they change)
679 [05:46:57] <Elronnd> And if I want to use another browser
with GNOME like, say...Waterfox, qutebrowser, or chromium, tough
luck I can't free up that disk space without annoying the
package manager?
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681 [05:47:51] <jmcnaught> Elronnd: also it doesn't really
take up that much space. besides it's good to have two browsers
installed, so you can research how to fix one if it breaks
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683 [05:48:14] <Elronnd> I intend to have no less than three
browsers installed
684 [05:48:17] <Elronnd> possibly four
685 [05:48:33] <Elronnd> plus a few text-based ones
686 [05:48:44] <jmcnaught> firefox-esr and chromium are the only
browsers on jessie that are covered by security support
687 [05:49:01] <Elronnd> I'm on stretch
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689 [05:49:36] <jmcnaught> in that case you may want to keep the
gnome meta-packages in case changes happen to their dependencies
during the development cycle
690 [05:50:01] <jmcnaught> stretch by the way is usually the last
to get security updates
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711 [06:02:05] <Chaos_> give me bitcoin or I vote for donald
trump 1J4Fd6yN32ys6ED4A25FxsvXg6kTcCRpxV
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718 [06:05:25] <Pied_> Hello
719 [06:05:28] <Pied_> I am making a Raspberry Pi Keyboard. My
script for the buttons uses Python. My program works perfectly.
Problem is when I click a button, a letter is only outputted If I am
using the window that I executed the program with. How can I make it
so I run my program, and when ever I press a button it will output
the letter to what ever program I am currently using like a real
keyboard?
720 [06:05:32] <Pied_> Code:
replaced-url
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746 [06:19:15] <mutante> i installed a fresh jessie on this Dell
R420. let it setup software RAID1. installer finishes..then on first
boot..fail. mdadm: No devices listed in conf file were found. cant
detect disks.. with 4.4 kernel. then i go to grub, see i can select
a 3.16 kernel too and with that it boots just fine... how do i make
the 3.16 kernel the default in grub for now until that is fixed.
grub v2 and all the menuentry lines are generated by those
scripts..sigh
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748 [06:21:23] <mutante> i even got to: info -f grub -n
'Simple configuration' already :p
749 [06:21:24] <cra1g321> why do you have 4.4 kernel if
you're on jessie ?
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756 [06:24:19] <mutante> cra1g321: oooh. eh, because the local
install server gave it to me when i selected
"jessie-installer"
757 [06:25:01] <mutante> linux-image-4.4.0-1-amd64
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759 [06:25:40] <mutante> i got the linux-meta-4.4 package
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770 [06:33:51] <latemus> i'v configured eth0 to use ipv4,
but many services still listen on ipv6. How do i disable ipv6
_entirely_ in debian 8.5?
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773 [06:36:01] <latemus> echo 1 >
/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/disable_ipv6 doesn't seem to do
what i need
774 [06:36:37] <latemus> how do i configure debian so that it
doesn't even start using ipv6 during boot?
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776 [06:37:02] <latemus> blacklist a module? the debian
administrator guide doesnt say much about ipv3
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778 [06:37:14] <latemus> .. nor ipv6
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782 [06:38:42] <latemus> i assume debian's default kernel
build has ipv6 support compiled in?
783 [06:39:52] <bhurstpdx1> it does
784 [06:40:11] <latemus> i deduced that from the absence of a
loaded module
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792 [06:45:22] <latemus> 1. i tell /proc to disable ipv6. 2.
service network restart. 3. netstat -lntup still shows services
listening, will they do that even with ipv6 disabled in the kernel?
793 [06:46:20] <latemus> hm, i just found /etc/netconfig
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796 [06:47:09] <Pied_> Hello
797 [06:47:11] <Pied_> I am making a Raspberry Pi Keyboard. My
script for the buttons uses Python. My program works perfectly.
Problem is when I click a button, a letter is only outputted If I am
using the window that I executed the program with. How can I make it
so I run my program, and when ever I press a button it will output
the letter to what ever program I am currently using like a real
keyboard?
798 [06:47:12] <Pied_> Code:
replaced-url
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815 [07:16:51] <tom99> i clicked all the options on the install
menu for debian jessie 8.5 disc 1 DVD
816 [07:16:57] <tom99> yet cmake wasn't installed
817 [07:17:12] <tom99> then when I typed apt-get install cmake on
a fresh install it's asking me to insert the dvd
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819 [07:17:21] <tom99> how do I get all the packages on the dvd
disc 1installed?
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822 [07:21:27] <bhurstpdx1> bd
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853 [07:40:06] <Fat-Zer> Pied_: I believe you are looking for a
way to injet a key press events into input subsystem, right?
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855 [07:41:12] <Fat-Zer> Pied_: dunno how to do it with python,
but on system level you just open /dev/uinput and wright specially
formated data there
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859 [07:43:51] <Fat-Zer> probably there is some python module to
do that...
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881 [07:54:18] <Dongyancai> Hello, I followed the instructions in
replaced-url
882 [07:54:24] <Dongyancai> "powerpcspe".
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884 [07:54:38] <[1]tom99> how do I install all the software from
the debian CD?
885 [07:54:40] <[1]tom99> er DVD
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889 [07:57:09] <b6s3d> hi, how do i change resolv.conf permanent
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895 [07:58:22] <OtakuSenpai> [1]tom99: you do tht during the os
installation process
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897 [07:59:01] <OtakuSenpai> but you dont need all of the
dvds,you can install required software later with synaptic or apt
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900 [07:59:51] <ransur0t> b6s3d: what software do you require
specifically? once determined, search in synaptic, or
replaced-url
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905 [08:02:12] <b6s3d> i think i fixed it :)
906 [08:02:20] <b6s3d> ransur0t
907 [08:02:29] <b6s3d> sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
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912 [08:03:45] <ransur0t> :)
913 [08:03:48] <[1]tom99> otakusenpai: I did. it didn't
install emacs though i checked everything but webserver
914 [08:03:51] <aedinius> Okay, I need to scrollback now: why did
making resolv.conf immutable fix the issue
915 [08:04:06] <OtakuSenpai> apt-cache search emacs
916 [08:04:07] <ransur0t> [1]tom99: what software do you require
specifically? once determined, search in synaptic, or
replaced-url
917 [08:04:22] <[1]tom99> well it asked me to insert the DVD
918 [08:04:38] <[1]tom99> so i don't want to piecemeal just
install things from the dvd and leave it in, i'd rather it
install most of the dvd like I asked it to
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920 [08:04:56] <aedinius> b6s3d: let's find the root
cause... what's happening with resolv.conf? what changes are
happening to it? i'm guessing you're setting a custom DNS
and it's getting overwritten by DHCP or something?
921 [08:05:05] <OtakuSenpai> were did you get tht notice?
922 [08:05:05] <OtakuSenpai> [1]tom99*
923 [08:05:43] <OtakuSenpai> i didnt install anything from the
dvds...i just got it via apt,and it works fine [1]tom99
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926 [08:05:58] <ransur0t> tom99: aptitude search emacs
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928 [08:06:10] <OtakuSenpai> i suppose you hav installed debian
os?
929 [08:06:17] <OtakuSenpai> *[1]tom99
930 [08:06:28] <b6s3d> aedinius: yeah that sounds about right
931 [08:06:30] <ransur0t> i have recently switched to aptitude
from apt and and liking it
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933 [08:06:58] <b6s3d> i have a static ip in
/etc/network/interfaces
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935 [08:08:08] <aedinius> b6s3d: what are you using to configure
network? if you're using /etc/network/interfaces, you can set
the nameserver with dns-nameservers
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938 [08:09:11] <tom99> now i can't install w3m-el package
with apt
939 [08:09:14] <b6s3d> dns-nameservers x.x.x.x x.x.x.x. ?
940 [08:09:17] <tom99> even though it says its referred to by
another package
941 [08:09:24] <b6s3d> or x.x.x.x, x.x.x.x;
942 [08:09:35] <aedinius> b6s3d: yes.
replaced-url
943 [08:09:44] <tom99> yes i just installed debian jesse 8.5 with
the first dvd disc
944 [08:10:02] <aedinius> b6s3d: dns-nameservers 12.34.56.78
12.34.56.79
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946 [08:10:12] <b6s3d> alright that is already done
947 [08:10:21] <b6s3d> how do i check my dns?
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949 [08:10:36] <OtakuSenpai> ajust type su >>your
passwd>> apt-get install emacs
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951 [08:11:03] <aedinius> b6s3d: well, when it sets the interface
up, it should automatically set the /etc/resolv.conf
952 [08:11:34] <b6s3d> i removed the link, any alternatives?
953 [08:11:42] <aedinius> removed the link?
954 [08:12:15] <ransur0t> tom99: OtakuSenpai: perhaps the issue
with "insert dvd" is that the line for cd/dvd source is
not muted in /etc/apt/sources.list ...
955 [08:12:54] <ransur0t> tom99: i suggest checking your
repository configuration in /etc/apt/sources.list
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957 [08:13:35] <tom99> ransur0t: i did, it has the debian cdrom
listed and then the same line but commented out
958 [08:13:52] <tom99> anyway i have no idea how to install
emacs-w3m except by manually downloading and compiling
959 [08:13:59] <tom99> so i guess i'll do that
960 [08:14:10] <ransur0t> tom99: both lines for cd should be
commented out
961 [08:14:17] <tom99> kk
962 [08:14:57] <ransur0t> and make sure you've got a good
http source for jessie repos, main, contrib, non-free, etc.
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964 [08:15:11] <tom99> just says main contrib free i think
965 [08:15:32] <tom99> er
966 [08:15:54] <ransur0t> should be all set then, once cd repo
lines are disabled
967 [08:15:55] <tom99> it only has security.debian.org for
jessie/updates, contrib, and main
968 [08:16:14] <tom99> anyway emacs-w3m and w3m-el are both not
to be found bleh
969 [08:16:20] <tom99> it worked in wheezy
970 [08:16:30] <ransur0t> take a look here:
replaced-url
971 [08:16:49] <ransur0t> see if you can track down a missing
dependency or component
972 [08:16:52] <tom99> it says package w3m-el is not available,
but is referred to by another package
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974 [08:17:55] <tom99> the web search you linked me to says
w3m-el is available
975 [08:17:59] <tom99> for jessie
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977 [08:18:09] <tom99> jessie (stable) (lisp): simple Emacs
interface of w3m
978 [08:18:09] <tom99> 1.4.483+0.20120614-8: all
979 [08:18:09] <tom99> also provided by: w3m-el-snapshot
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981 [08:18:29] <b6s3d> aedinius: ctrl+f chattr
replaced-url
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983 [08:19:01] <ransur0t> do you have synaptic installed? if so,
search emacs there and ensure all packages you require are checked,
then do the install
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985 [08:19:13] <tom99> how do i tell what repo to add to get
this? package.debian.org?
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987 [08:20:06] <tom99> well synaptic not found as normal user.
but when i switched to root and typed 'synaptic' it
started up
988 [08:20:09] <tom99> is that what is expected?
989 [08:20:19] <ransur0t> yes, requires root to run
990 [08:20:30] <CutMeOwnThroat> tom99, a) need to run
"apt-get update" after changing sources.list. b) why
don't you put the result of tail -n99 /etc/apt/sources.list
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/* on
replaced-url
991 [08:20:31] <ransur0t> your repo's should be all set
992 [08:21:56] <OtakuSenpai> tom99: synaptic or apt both start as
root user
993 [08:22:11] <OtakuSenpai> both of them require root privileges
994 [08:22:35] <OtakuSenpai> for changing the packages and the
root directory
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996 [08:23:14] <OtakuSenpai> beware of which programs you give
your root priveleges btw
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998 [08:23:17] <ransur0t> sudo apt-get update && apt-get
install emacs
999 [08:23:20] <tom99> cutmeownthroat: paste.debian.net/783481
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1003 [08:23:46] <tom99> the command is `apt-get install w3m-el`
1004 [08:24:17] <CutMeOwnThroat> that's missing the main
repo(s)
1005 [08:24:55] <ransur0t> your sources.list needs the repo
entries for jessie-updates main contrib uncommented!
1006 [08:24:55] <tom99> it's a fresh install
1007 [08:25:00] <tom99> what repos is it supposed to have
1008 [08:25:12] <ransur0t> tom99: see my previous comment
1009 [08:25:38] <tom99> it says i didn't select a network
mirror during install
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1011 [08:25:50] <tom99> is that why it's not working as
expected?
1012 [08:26:06] <CutMeOwnThroat> dpkg, tell tom99 about jessie
sources.list
1013 [08:26:13] <ransur0t> definitely part of it ... as I
mentioned earlier, if you had a mirror properly setup during install
...
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1017 [08:26:50] <tom99> i didn't realize that was expected
1018 [08:27:03] <aedinius> b6s3d: chattr for that seems like an xy
problem -- it doesn't solve the root issue
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1020 [08:27:08] <ransur0t> no prob man :)
1021 [08:27:09] <CutMeOwnThroat> you have the security.debian.org
line, but you're lacking deb
replaced-url
1022 [08:27:35] <CutMeOwnThroat> (or deb
replaced-url
1023 [08:27:54] <CutMeOwnThroat> up to you if you want the contrib
and non-free repositories enabled or not
1024 [08:27:58] <OtakuSenpai>
replaced-url
1025 [08:28:09] <OtakuSenpai> heres my source.list....
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1027 [08:28:34] <OtakuSenpai> your should look like this type a
too
1028 [08:28:48] <tom99> ah ok i've never seen that
httpredir.debian.org/debian url before
1029 [08:28:48] <CutMeOwnThroat> non-free obviously has non-free
things, contrib has free software that depends on non-free things in
some way
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1031 [08:29:12] <ransur0t> tom99: see
replaced-url
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1033 [08:30:02] <CutMeOwnThroat> OtakuSenpai, only you have the
repo formerly known as volatile in there twice, one time from
denmark servers, one time from US servers
1034 [08:30:29] <b6s3d> aedinius: what do you suggest?
1035 [08:30:50] <aedinius> b6s3d: figure out what's changing
the resolv.conf and why
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1037 [08:31:10] <OtakuSenpai> yes i had problems downloading from
the denmark servers sometime back,so i added the us ones too
1038 [08:31:20] <b6s3d> how do i add the symbolic link again
"chattr -a" ?
1039 [08:31:20] <CutMeOwnThroat> tom99, it's some newish
thing that automatically gives you the best server from the dns
lookup... you're in the US, if it ever gives you problems, use
deb
replaced-url
1040 [08:31:40] <CutMeOwnThroat> b6s3d, what?
1041 [08:31:51] <aedinius> b6s3d: ignore chattr, it's not the
right approach.
1042 [08:31:52] <tom99> ok i added those two lines that dpkg
suggested.
1043 [08:31:57] <tom99> gonna run apt-get update, sec
1044 [08:32:20] <b6s3d> i deleted the symbolic link, don't
you think i should make it again?
1045 [08:32:35] <tom99> ok thanks cutmeownthroat
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1048 [08:32:53] <aedinius> b6s3d: what symbolic link?
1049 [08:32:53] <CutMeOwnThroat> yw
1050 [08:33:00] <tom99> what's the difference between
jessie-updates and jessie/updates?
1051 [08:33:03] <aedinius> /etc/resolv.conf isn't a symbolic
link on my machine
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1054 [08:34:45] <b6s3d> "sudo resolvconf -u" =
"/etc/resolvconf/update.d/lib: Warning: /etc/resolv.conf is not
a symbolic link to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf
1055 [08:34:50] <b6s3d> "
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1057 [08:35:36] <aedinius> if you set everything in interfaces
then it should automatically set resolv.conf
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1059 [08:35:43] <aedinius> are you getting settings that you
shouldn't?
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1061 [08:36:15] <tom99> ok thanks cutmeownthroat
1062 [08:36:24] <tom99> now when I do `apt-get install w3m-el` it
finds it and works
1063 [08:36:45] <b6s3d> aedinius: nope, i did " sudo chattr
+i /etc/resolv.conf" now i want to regret it
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1065 [08:37:37] <OtakuSenpai> chattr is a irc client i
suppose,b6s3d
1066 [08:37:42] <aedinius> ... then chattr -i
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1069 [08:37:58] <b6s3d> no, no its not
1070 [08:37:59] <b6s3d> no
1071 [08:38:00] <aedinius> OtakuSenpai: ??
1072 [08:38:09] <OtakuSenpai> no nvr mind thn
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1074 [08:38:13] <b6s3d> stop making no sense
1075 [08:38:15] <b6s3d> no
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1077 [08:38:29] <b6s3d>
replaced-url
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1079 [08:40:09] <tom99> ok i don't mean to sound weird here
1080 [08:40:10] <tom99> but
1081 [08:40:22] <tom99> is there a list of common linux software i
can tell apt-get to go and download?
1082 [08:40:34] <tom99> I just typed `apt-get install autoconf`
and now it's downloading it.... -_-
1083 [08:41:04] <OtakuSenpai> autoconf is a package
1084 [08:41:06] <tom99> at least i don't have to type
`apt-get install gcc`
1085 [08:41:17] <OtakuSenpai> for c++ devs i guess
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1088 [08:41:44] <tom99> well yes that's the main reason i
downloaded jessie in the first place
1089 [08:42:19] <tom99> to be blunt i expect all this to be
installed already so
1090 [08:42:26] <OtakuSenpai> which packages you want,say A n B n
C,type apt-get install A B C ...
1091 [08:42:26] <tom99> i mean if i have to install a bunch of
stuff ok
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1093 [08:42:33] <tom99> well everything i need for c++
1094 [08:42:37] <tom99> i already did autoconf, cmake
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1096 [08:42:45] <OtakuSenpai> wait
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1098 [08:42:50] <tom99> i just expect those to be install because
i clicked most of the boxes on the debian dvd install screen
1099 [08:43:19] <alea123> how can i check why mysql uses 52% of my
cpu?
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1101 [08:43:25] <tom99> anyway it's pointless to assign blame
now
1102 [08:43:37] <tom99> i guess i just need to figure out what
packages i need
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1105 [08:44:26] <Elirips> tom99: try to stick your left thumb into
the usb-port: aptitude will then read your mind and install
everything you need
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1107 [08:44:58] <alea123> the only thing i found in logs is:
postfix/cleanup[474]: warning:
mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_alias_maps.cf lookup error for
"root@xxxx.xxxx.xx"
1108 [08:45:18] <b6s3d> chattr +i pretty much solved my sudo
apt-get problem
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1110 [08:46:07] <OtakuSenpai> you can prune wht you want
1111 [08:46:17] <tom99> lol ok th anks OtakuSenpai
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1134 [08:54:33] <aedinius> b6s3d: it may have worked around a
problem that was causing problems with apt ...
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1150 [08:59:34] <alea123> mysql has 52% cpu load and other 48%
have apache2 processes... any chance to check why?
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1173 [09:06:37] <Elirips> alea123: seems one of your webpage is
running a lot of queries against mysql. You could try to stop apache
and check if mysql loads drops to almost 0%. If yes, you only need
to identify which page is causing the load
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1184 [09:09:17] <alea123> Elirips: i think its about owncloud.
because its one of two sites on the whole server. but i cant check
why its so high... it started yesterday... and everytime i restart
mysqld apache2 processes will explode with cpu-load. i havent ran
any updates or installed apps in the last time, so there cant be a
problem with new/updated apps. but i will try to stop apache
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1191 [09:10:38] <alea123> Elirips: yes, if i stop apache2 servers
cpu load is at 1%
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1195 [09:11:08] <alea123> if i start apache2 mysqld is exploding
to 52%
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1201 [09:12:40] <Elirips> alea123: what do the apache logs say? or
try with apachetop to identify what is causing the load, here is a
sample:
replaced-url
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1204 [09:13:24] <alea123> Elirips: let me take a look at apaches
logs
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1208 [09:16:08] <alea123> Elirips: apache access and error logs
are fine. nothing strange in it
1209 [09:16:16] <alea123> will try apachetop
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1212 [09:17:20] <Elirips> alea123: also note there is chanel
#httpd - maybe the apache experts in there can give you some usefull
hints
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1221 [09:23:45] <alea123> Elirips: thanks :) will try in #httpd
too... also tried in #owncloud, but no answers till now
1222 [09:23:48] <CutMeOwnThroat> tom99, you probably want apt-get
install build-essential (if you want to build programs)
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1224 [09:26:00] <CutMeOwnThroat> tom99, and for any package
"packagename", that is already in debian, you can install
the build dependencies with apt-get build-dep packagename
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1246 [09:36:31] <alea123> Elirips: current server status htop:
replaced-url
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1249 [09:41:26] <fsociety[00]dat> I am user in group
"sudo" and sudoers file says allow member of group sudo
but it returns with user not in sudoers file.
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1251 [09:43:12] <fsociety[00]dat> What is the problem?
1252 [09:43:14] <ransur0t> logout/login
1253 [09:43:19] <fsociety[00]dat> did it
1254 [09:43:19] <ransur0t> or reboot
1255 [09:43:22] <fsociety[00]dat> did it
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1258 [09:44:23] <ransur0t> hmm, are you editihg directly on
sudoers file, or using desktop gui for users?
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1260 [09:44:55] <fsociety[00]dat> EDITOR=nano visudo
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1264 [09:45:39] <ransur0t> paste content?
1265 [09:45:41] <fsociety[00]dat> only uncomment the "allow
group sudo..."
1266 [09:45:43] <fsociety[00]dat> ok
1267 [09:45:46] <eitzei> Does that row on the sudoers file start
with % ? I have deleted that once
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1272 [09:46:42] <fsociety[00]dat>
replaced-url
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1276 [09:47:44] <centurion18> !nodm
1277 [09:47:44] <dpkg> Debian does not use a specific runlevel for
graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s)
with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm
slim". "echo false
>/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM,
or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a
minimal/automatic display manager (replaced-url
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1279 [09:48:27] <ransur0t> fsociety[00]dat: sorry, my access is
blocked to that paste site. perhaps paste.debian ...
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1283 [09:50:14] <fsociety[00]dat>
replaced-url
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1287 [09:50:55] <CutMeOwnThroat> alea123, there should be log
messages in apache... if not in error log, then in access log...
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1291 [09:51:41] <ransur0t> fsociety[00]dat: thanks. looks like
you've just allowed any user part of sudo group to execute any
command (rather than a command by command basis).
1292 [09:51:50] <ransur0t> so you still need to add yourself to
the sudo group
1293 [09:52:31] <fsociety[00]dat> ransur0t, cdrom floppy sudo
audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin scanner bluetooth
1294 [09:52:32] <CutMeOwnThroat> although... one request every 10
seconds according to apachetop
1295 [09:53:10] <alea123> CutMeOwnThroat: there are only default
access entries .. rly nothing special... i checked the access.log
twice. error.log is clearly empty, only a few entries from my
install in march
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1298 [09:54:41] <ransur0t> hmm, strange. so output of
<username> sudo lists you?
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1300 [09:55:29] <fsociety[00]dat> yep
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1304 [09:57:19] <CutMeOwnThroat> alea123, hm, actually look in
normal logs (/var/log/messages, dmesg)
1305 [09:57:20] <fsociety[00]dat> ransur0t, I add the use like
"adduser <username> sudo"
1306 [09:57:26] <fsociety[00]dat> *user
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1311 [09:58:09] <ransur0t> yeah, seems like everything should be
ok, unless there is a higher level user/group permission in place
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1315 [10:00:50] <alea123> CutMeOwnThroat: hm thanks... i think i
got it... too many sql connections from froxlor
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1318 [10:01:19] <alea123> froxlor[7735]: SQLSTATE[08004] [1040]
Too many connections
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1321 [10:01:48] <CutMeOwnThroat> what's froxlor
1322 [10:02:38] <alea123> a webapplication of my hoster to manage
customers in webspaces
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1325 [10:03:25] <alea123> but also in their forums i am the only
one with this problem :/
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1328 [10:04:55] <CutMeOwnThroat> ask the mysql server what
it's busy with...
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1329 [10:05:10] <CutMeOwnThroat> also... disk error messages would
maybe make sense
1330 [10:05:23] <CutMeOwnThroat> if mysql threads hang trying to
write...
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1336 [10:08:36] <CutMeOwnThroat> how many sql connections is it
configured to anyway
1337 [10:08:49] <CutMeOwnThroat> could try increasing the number
1338 [10:09:08] <CutMeOwnThroat> alea123, what does df -h show?
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1346 [10:15:01] <alea123> CutMeOwnThroat: size: 229G, used: 73G,
available: 145G, use%: 34%
1347 [10:15:23] <CutMeOwnThroat> there's only one disk?
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1349 [10:16:08] <CutMeOwnThroat> oh well. if the disk mysql writes
things to was simply full...
1350 [10:17:00] <alea123> rootfs, udev, tmpfs, /dev/foo/bar/,
tmpfs, tmpfs... its a vserver
1351 [10:17:07] <alea123> but it isnt full
1352 [10:17:21] <CutMeOwnThroat> not >90% either?
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1354 [10:17:34] <alea123> used in %: 34%
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1356 [10:18:19] <CutMeOwnThroat> seems the only interesting
command from that jetprofiler page is "show processes"
1357 [10:18:24] <alea123> diskspace: 229G ... used diskspace: 73G
... available free diskspace: 145G
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1360 [10:19:25] <CutMeOwnThroat> time for me to go. good luck
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1364 [10:20:19] <alea123> CutMeOwnThroat: thanks anyway :)
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1403 [10:51:33] <afx_> Hello ! How can I have my machine act as
ntp server ? I have installed ntp (aptitude ntp) . Is there any
special configuration I have to make to act as ntp server?
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1415 [10:55:15] <imint> #debian
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1418 [10:57:39] <afx_> Do I need the ntp-server package too ?
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1497 [11:41:20] <afx_> hello ! How can I setup my debian box to
act as an ntp server . I have installed ntp ( w. aptitude ntp ). Do
I have to make any special configuration for this? Also how can I
view the ntp clients connected to my machine
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1499 [11:43:19] <koollman> afx_: I think it is : ntpdc -c monlist
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1501 [11:44:00] <ransur0t> afx_: give these references a look:
replaced-url
1502 [11:46:11] <afx_> k will try that
1503 [11:46:15] <afx_> thank you both
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1505 [11:46:21] <ransur0t> yw
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1510 [11:46:51] <saunamees> Anyone tested ssh tunneled nfs /
encrypted nfs against sshfs ?
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1518 [11:53:14] <SynrGy> saunamees: my limited experience with
tunnels and filesystems is that each layer adds considerable
overhead/latency, and generally leads to a poor experience.
1519 [11:53:42] <SynrGy> saunamees: i cannot speak for these
specific combinations, but it sounds like something i wouldn't
want to try :)
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1528 [12:00:41] <BadPractice> hi, i tried to get docker running
with aufs on debian jessie with aufs. How to get aufs running
1529 [12:00:47] <BadPractice> ?
1530 [12:01:54] <SynrGy> i'm not sure what you mean. can you
be more specific? also, be aware that aufs is no longer present in
stretch, nor in a jessie-backports kernel.
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1532 [12:02:23] <BadPractice> SynrGy: and how should i get docker
running then?
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1534 [12:02:25] <SynrGy> so going forward, you need to consider
your migration strategy, rather than building on a technology that
will soon be replaced.
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1537 [12:02:42] <SynrGy> i can't help with docker. i merely
repeat to you what i know about aufs.
1538 [12:03:09] <SynrGy> also, your question lacks the precision
needed for others here that do know about docker to assist.
1539 [12:03:17] <BadPractice> SynrGy: this is so wired. Docker
needs it. Modern server need docker and it gets thrown out of
debian?
1540 [12:03:30] <SynrGy> not "thrown out of debian" ...
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1542 [12:03:38] <SynrGy> upstream (the linux kernel) dropped it a
long time ago
1543 [12:03:50] <SynrGy> debian kept it via patches for much
longer than upstream did.
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1545 [12:04:06] <SynrGy> in stretch aufs *finally* gets dropped,
after keeping it going for as long as they could
1546 [12:04:17] <SynrGy> (they == debian kernel maintainers)
1547 [12:04:28] <BadPractice> SynrGy: well in that case i probably
should not build a system depending on it?
1548 [12:04:30] <SynrGy> it is superseded by overlayfs
1549 [12:04:44] <SynrGy> i'm not saying you shouldn't.
i'm saying its a consideration.
1550 [12:04:51] <SynrGy> depending on your *exact* problem, it may
be relevant.
1551 [12:04:54] <SynrGy> or may not
1552 [12:05:01] <SynrGy> i still haven't heard a precise
problem statement.
1553 [12:05:17] <SynrGy> !doesn't work
1554 [12:05:17] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague
statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it
procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for
change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it
isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without
needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error
message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco>
and <errors>.
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1556 [12:06:45] <BadPractice> SynrGy: well thats basically what
docker tould me as error message "does not work" but i
found more gimme a sec
1557 [12:07:18] <saunamees> SynrGy: How would you do a web app
that has to securely transfer files to remote server ? So web app is
inside a different network/lan than remote server
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1559 [12:07:51] <saunamees> I thought mounting remote server would
be the best, but maybe there are some other ways
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1561 [12:08:26] <SynrGy> saunamees: i am using sshfs by itself for
that purpose in one case.
1562 [12:08:45] <SynrGy> saunamees: why would you want to use it
in combination with another filesystem? or did i not understand the
question exactly?
1563 [12:08:54] <saunamees> how is the performance ? 100Mb/s is
quaranteed
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1565 [12:09:22] <saunamees> well web app is inside a private
network, remote server is accessible from all web
1566 [12:09:28] <saunamees> so basically file sharing
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1575 [12:13:38] <SynrGy> saunamees: i have no figures on this. and
it would very per situation anyway. it is what i would call
"adequate to my needs"
1576 [12:13:43] <SynrGy> i didn't measure
1577 [12:14:28] <SynrGy> for bulk transfers it is fine. less
satisfactory is situations where quite a number of file accesses are
required (e.g. locating a git or svn workspace on sshfs)
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1580 [12:14:38] <saunamees> are there any other options that I
should look ?
1581 [12:14:43] <SynrGy> for a workaround for that, i'm using
sshfsexec
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1584 [12:15:12] <saunamees> I was looking at Ceph, openAFS,
MooseFS, GlusterFS. Not sure how they work yet, but they are
distributed fs-s.
1585 [12:15:15] <SynrGy> i haven't done a thorough survey of
the options. sshfs is the one i know about.
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1587 [12:15:30] <saunamees> okay, thanks
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1598 [12:21:03] <BadPractice> SynrGy: you have any idea how to get
aufs up and running on jessie?
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1716 [13:26:16] <nuke_> Hi, just instaled fresh Debian (stabile),
try to open libreoffice and get /libsclo.so> failed.
1717 [13:26:35] <nuke_> somone know that error?
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1719 [13:27:14] <jelly> nuke_, can you pastebin or screenshot the
whole output?
1720 [13:27:16] <jelly> !paste
1721 [13:27:16] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
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1726 [13:28:32] <nuke_>
replaced-url
1727 [13:28:55] <teraflops> nuke_: how did you install
libreoffice?
1728 [13:29:00] <nuke_> for libreoffice 4.3.3.2
1729 [13:29:12] <nuke_> by apt-get
1730 [13:29:13] <teraflops> that's not what I asked
1731 [13:29:15] <teraflops> ah
1732 [13:30:02] <teraflops> nuke_: and did you get any errors
during the apt-get install?
1733 [13:30:07] <ransur0t> nuke_: most likely a dependency version
conflict
1734 [13:30:29] <nuke_> didn't seen any
1735 [13:30:38] <ransur0t> i ran into something similar with a
plugin for vlc. had to build the plugin myself and copy over the .so
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1737 [13:31:04] <teraflops> nuke_: mind pasting the exact apt
command you ran?
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1740 [13:31:33] <nuke_> # apt-get install libreoffice
1741 [13:31:34] <teraflops> nuke_: also did you apt-get update
before installing libreoffice?
1742 [13:31:40] <nuke_> yes
1743 [13:32:00] <teraflops> nuke_: tried just reinstalling it?
1744 [13:32:05] <nuke_> yes
1745 [13:32:16] <nuke_> purge also
1746 [13:32:25] <teraflops> ok looks like I have no idea whats
going on there
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1748 [13:32:47] <nuke_> I also XD
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1750 [13:33:32] <teraflops> nuke_: mind pasting your sources.list
to
replaced-url
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1755 [13:35:13] <teraflops> sorry pastefail^
replaced-url
1756 [13:35:25] <Iridos> what is the command that leads to that
error?
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1758 [13:35:46] <Iridos> I'd have much preferred one paste
that shows the command run and the error
1759 [13:36:15] <nuke_>
replaced-url
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1761 [13:37:02] <Iridos> that's ok
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1763 [13:37:48] <teraflops> nuke_: yeah what do you run? paste the
whole thing as jelly and Iridos suggested
1764 [13:38:00] <nuke_> only when I whant to open calc/writer file
I get GUI error
1765 [13:38:25] <nuke_> even strace didnt get error
1766 [13:38:41] <ransur0t> run it from command line and take a
look at output upon failiure
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1768 [13:38:48] <nuke_>
replaced-url
1769 [13:39:21] <nuke_> ransur0t: It havent got error in comand
line
1770 [13:39:41] <ransur0t> hmmm
1771 [13:39:50] <nuke_> libreoffice --writer get no answer in
comand line
1772 [13:39:50] <teraflops> also
replaced-url
1773 [13:39:51] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1775 [13:41:16] <teraflops> not sure if related but it's the
same lib
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1785 [13:49:43] <nuke_> teraflops: not find something interesting
in emails
1786 [13:50:03] <jelly> nuke_: alright, can you try:
"/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice --calc" from a
terminal
1787 [13:50:25] <jelly> does it open successfully?
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1789 [13:50:47] <jelly> (with a new window with an empty document)
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1792 [13:52:23] <nuke_> a
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1794 [13:52:32] <nuke_> failed
1795 [13:52:47] <nuke_> that same problem
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1801 [13:58:13] <teraflops> nuke_: I have *** 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u4
here I'm apt-get upgrading for getting 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u5 and see
if it fails, also what's the ooutput of apt-cache policy
libreoffice-calc there?
1802 [13:58:15] <jelly> good.
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1805 [13:58:48] <jelly> nuke_: are there any leftover libreoffice
processes already running? ps -fe |grep soffice
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1809 [14:00:18] <nuke_> $ ps -fe |grep soffice
1810 [14:00:18] <nuke_> nuke 4350 4342 0 13:59 pts/2 00:00:00 grep
soffice
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1818 [14:02:34] <nuke_>
replaced-url
1819 [14:02:38] <nuke_> for cache
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1822 [14:04:08] <teraflops> yeah that's fine according to
your sources list
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1853 [14:19:32] <teraflops> nuke_: no idea it opens fine usinf the
same version as you do, I have no idea whats going on there, if you
say you already tried apt-get install --reinstall libreoffice-calc
even deleting the package from cache so apt gets it from the
internet again
1854 [14:19:52] <teraflops> using*
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1858 [14:22:33] <LAL> Hi everyone, I am new to this organization
and I would like to contribute please help. Thank you
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1861 [14:23:08] <Iamnotgeorgebush> see... my zodiac sign is pisces
with ascendant pisces. very rare constellation... anyone in here who
can read my chart?
1862 [14:24:17] <Iamnotgeorgebush> I maybe give you money from
hacked paypal account if you can help me
1863 [14:24:18] <bazhang> Iamnotgeorgebush, did the ops check you
yet
1864 [14:24:39] <Iamnotgeorgebush> what ops
1865 [14:24:50] <bazhang> Iamnotgeorgebush, the channel ops
1866 [14:25:00] <Iamnotgeorgebush> I don't know, you have to
ask them
1867 [14:25:06] <bazhang> this is ##windows Iamnotgeorgebush
1868 [14:25:20] <Iamnotgeorgebush> i thought this was #debian
1869 [14:25:25] <bazhang> or #debian now
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1871 [14:25:33] <Iamnotgeorgebush> wat
1872 [14:25:44] <bazhang> you just spammed up ##windows, my bad
1873 [14:26:03] <Iamnotgeorgebush> spammed? I just want someone to
read my astrological chart, as I am to stupid to do it
1874 [14:26:24] <bazhang> Iamnotgeorgebush, thats really not
topical here at all
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1877 [14:26:50] <Iamnotgeorgebush> there is no topic for it on
freenode. you have to help me. the life of billions depends on it
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1879 [14:27:22] <bazhang> Iamnotgeorgebush, lets call the ops and
let them clear this up
1880 [14:27:32] <Iamnotgeorgebush> okay
1881 [14:27:36] <Elirips> Iamnotgeorgebush: why?
1882 [14:27:40] <Iamnotgeorgebush> thank you
1883 [14:28:03] <Iamnotgeorgebush> because I'm the chosen
one. you don't have to believe me. I just want someone to read
my chart if possible
1884 [14:28:24] <Elirips> Iamnotgeorgebush: What do you think
Robin Williams is doing today?
1885 [14:28:32] <Iamnotgeorgebush> cocaine
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1890 [14:29:23] <Iamnotgeorgebush> why do you ask? Elirips
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1896 [14:31:57] <Iamnotgeorgebush> poor guy. had parkinsons,
dementia and depression.
1897 [14:32:11] <Iamnotgeorgebush> one of them is hard enough but
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1909 [14:34:34] <xdanx> I tried it but i doesnt work even if the
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1931 [14:43:31] <Iridos> oh well
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1976 [15:10:32] <cnu-> when i run reportbug it says that a newer
version is available in stretch and unstable. does this mean i
should upgrade my debian?
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1978 [15:11:34] <Sicelo> or it means newer version of reportbug? i
think this is more likely
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1981 [15:12:13] <abrotman> cnu-: yes
1982 [15:12:50] <cnu-> ok so jessie is no longer supported?
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2041 [15:41:14] <iamawesome> Hi, how can change the position of
gnome panel?
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2043 [15:41:21] <iamawesome> From bottom to right side
2044 [15:41:26] <iamawesome> It's gnome classic
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2064 [15:49:16] <FinalX> running jessie and breaking my head over
statd not starting before nfs mounts are done; then later it gets
started (I guess with the next network interface), but NFS mounts
are not tried again. Bug reports galore, but no real mentioned fix.
Seems to do with me creating a bridge interface (br0) in
/etc/network/interfaces, and eth0.61 being set to
"manual", if I revert to just the eth0.61 interface and
put th
2065 [15:49:22] <FinalX> e IP config on there (and ditch the
bridge), all works well :|
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2068 [15:49:47] <FinalX> I *could* just put 'mount -a'
in /etc/rc.local, but that's far from elegant :P
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2090 [15:58:52] <troulouliou_div2> !lenny source.list
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2092 [15:59:07] <troulouliou_div2> !squeeze sources.list
2093 [15:59:07] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
6.0 "Squeeze" has two lines: "deb
replaced-url
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2095 [15:59:22] <Pied_> Who was the last person to talk to me, I
missed their message
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2099 [16:00:49] <Guest_____> i have a wierd question but its
bugging me so much: I lost the name for this (program? tool?) which
included uboot i think, ( i want to research it, but i dont know the
name, i dont know what it does..)
2100 [16:01:06] <unborn> hi guys.. recently ive noticed that
tacker-store and tracker-miner-fs and tracker-extract eating nearly
90% of my cpu - how to disable that?
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2102 [16:02:05] <Guest_____> i think the program is similar to
buildroot, but the name was very exotic sounding and not related to
anything
2103 [16:02:10] <unborn> after few minutes just traker-store is
running at 60% cpu
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2105 [16:03:02] <teraflops> unborn: /etc/xdg/autostart iirc
2106 [16:03:32] <unborn> teraflops: bash: /etc/xdg/autostart: Is a
directory
2107 [16:03:49] <teraflops> unborn: yeah good catch! did you look
inside?
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2110 [16:04:45] <unborn> yeah
2111 [16:04:46] <unborn> im in
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2113 [16:04:57] <unborn> what I am looking for? - got pletny of
files there
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2118 [16:05:37] <unborn> tracker-store.desktop?
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2122 [16:06:25] <teraflops> isn't that obvious that things
there are auto started ?
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2126 [16:07:31] <unborn> teraflops: it is of course but what that
tracker do ? just indexing files?
2127 [16:07:40] <teraflops> i guess so
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2130 [16:08:07] <Dongyancai> Hello, I followed the instructions in
replaced-url
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2142 [16:10:16] <unborn> okay, problem solved :) changed the way
how much it does indexing.. thanks teraflops
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2145 [16:11:15] <teraflops> np
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2163 [16:23:51] <meretrix> Is there anywhere I can just download a
minimal Debian image into which I can chroot?
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2182 [16:33:08] <jamiejackson> how do i work around this?
replaced-url
2183 [16:33:35] <jamiejackson> (that's during `apt-get
update`, btw)
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2194 [16:37:17] <TomTomTosch> jamiejackson: httpredir has some
issues sometimes. pick a mirror from
replaced-url
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2196 [16:37:45] <jamiejackson> okay, thanks, TomTomTosch
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2220 [16:47:36] <Nasha> Kernel-RT faster regular Kernel for KVM?
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2224 [16:48:56] <Nasha> And on mech?
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2255 [17:00:25] <mekeor> i'm trying to build and install
sddm-config-editor from source (replaced-url
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2260 [17:05:00] <mekeor> i have all packages installed which are
listed by "apt-file find qqmlapplicationengine" or
"apt-file find QQmlApplicationEngine"
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2266 [17:06:58] <jelly> mekeor, I'm still waiting for the
paste to open, but the wild guess would be you're missing some
-dev package, or it's not the version author(s) expected
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2268 [17:07:41] <jelly> possibly it's a qt5 code not qt4
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2271 [17:07:52] <miesco> Hi How do I type keys without my fingers?
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2274 [17:09:24] <jelly> mekeor, what happens if you install
qt5-qmake instead and use that qmake?
2275 [17:09:41] <jelly> miesco, what do you mean?
2276 [17:09:48] <miesco> jelly: I figured it out
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2278 [17:09:59] <mekeor> jelly: i already have installed both qt4-
and qt5-qmake
2279 [17:10:05] <miesco> jelly: xdotool key LETTERS
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2282 [17:11:00] <jelly> mekeor, alright, what if you explicitely
call /usr/lib/*/qt5/bin/qmake
2283 [17:11:11] <mekeor> jelly: qmake --version says it's
version 4.*.
2284 [17:12:16] <mekeor> jelly: btw, is qtchooser a tool to switch
the version of qt used? i'm imagining qtchooser to be something
like in "qtchooser 5 qmake" or so :D
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2290 [17:12:47] <jelly> I have no idea, sorry
2291 [17:13:23] <jelly> surely it has a manual?
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2295 [17:14:05] <mekeor> jelly: YEAH, you were right! it worked!
thank you!
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2302 [17:18:16] <careta> I want to have a directory with files
that when execute assume a group's gid (sgid), but I also want
new files to belong to that group and have the sgid bit set when
they are created. How can I do that?
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2304 [17:20:33] <jelly> careta: only compiled binaries can have
setgid on linux, scripts can't
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2309 [17:21:30] <jelly> and there's no simple way to have
setgid enabled by default for new files, you'd have to add it
via inotify or the stupid way via a cron job
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2313 [17:22:02] <careta> that sucks
2314 [17:22:11] <jelly> careta, only "new files to belong to
that group " can be done easily
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2319 [17:22:30] <careta> I have some software I need to contain
network wise, and I have an iptables rule to block connectivity to
the internet from that group
2320 [17:22:38] <careta> local network is ok, but no internet
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2322 [17:22:59] <careta> but I also want any files created by that
software to be limited in terms of network connectivity
2323 [17:23:09] <jelly> perhaps network namespaces would be a
better fit than groups.
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2327 [17:24:03] <jelly> (google for linux network namespaces, and
ip netns)
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2331 [17:25:30] <careta> I see, thanks!
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2333 [17:26:20] <jelly> ask in #netfilter too
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2382 [17:55:57] <afx_> Hello! I am trying to mount a network drive
under with this :sudo mount -t cifs -o
username=uname,password=pswd,uid=username //ip/folder /media/folder
. I am getting mount error(6): No such device or address . What
could be wrong?
2383 [17:57:02] <Iridos> Maybe there's no such device or
address?
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2388 [17:58:38] <Iridos> I generally found it simpler to debug
samba problems with smbclient
2389 [17:58:38] <jelly> afx_: 1) does /media/folder exist? 2) does
smbclient -L ip show the /folder share?
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2394 [17:59:48] <afx_> jelly: 1)yes 2) Server requested LANMAN
password (share-level security) but 'client lanman auth =
no' or 'client ntlmv2 auth = yes' tree connect
failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
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2397 [18:00:15] <afx_> I can navigate through to the networkd
folder through nautilus though , jelly
2398 [18:00:33] <jelly> afx_, provide username and password to
smbclient as needed
2399 [18:00:46] <afx_> ok let me check
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2401 [18:01:03] <jelly> which OS on the server side?
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2403 [18:01:10] <afx_> openelec
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2407 [18:01:41] <SynrGy> also could fail if the domain isn't
specified and needs to be.
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2410 [18:02:08] <nod3> hey all! I had an existing raid1 array
(BIOS/Intel) and was working fine on jessie. I did a fresh install
last night without touching the array and now the array won't
show up. Here is /proc/mdstat:
replaced-url
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2412 [18:02:14] <nod3> lems? I tried numerous posts online on
attaching existing array on a fresh install to no avail
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2418 [18:04:15] <afx_> jelly: what username and password shall I
provide to smbclient ? local or remote?
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2420 [18:04:48] <Iridos> ah yes... just tried myself, haven't
used smbclient in ages... I can do this and get access:
/usr/bin/smbclient --user "myuser" //full.domain.name/data
2421 [18:05:04] <Iridos> the user/password for the smb share, of
course
2422 [18:05:14] <afx_> Iridos: ok
2423 [18:05:15] <jelly> afx_, the same as for the share?
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2427 [18:05:58] <jelly> oh, if it's samba on both ends then
it's supposed to work I guess
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2431 [18:06:43] <ikla> does grub2 offer a shell while booted in
linux like legacy grub?
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2444 [18:10:33] <afx_> jelly: with smbclient -L -U
"uname" -I //192.x.x.x/folder I get nothing
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2447 [18:11:52] <SynrGy> what is the domain/workgroup name of the
server vs. the domain name/workgroup of the client?
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2449 [18:12:25] <SynrGy> if they differ, you also need to specify
the domain name, both to smbclient and to mount
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2452 [18:12:52] <afx_> SynrGy: don't think there is a domain
specified on the server
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2456 [18:13:40] <SynrGy> [global] workgroup = ?
2457 [18:13:41] <afx_> but let me check first
2458 [18:13:41] <SynrGy> no?
2459 [18:13:59] <SynrGy> see smbclient -W option
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2463 [18:14:58] <Iridos> afx_, -I takes a separate IP if you have
a netname in //192.x.x.x/folder that doesn't itself resolve
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2466 [18:15:30] <sine0> I have my first ssd drive in my laptop. do
i have to make any special allowances for it in my debian install im
going to do
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2468 [18:16:09] <Iridos> so I think that should either be
smbclient -L -U user //192.x.x.x/folder --or-- smbclient -L -U user
-I 192.168.3.4 //somename/folder
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2470 [18:17:16] <Iridos> sine0, I didn't... maybe did some
generous alignment and check it with google
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2472 [18:18:06] <Iridos> so far, it seems to have been ok
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2476 [18:18:58] <sine0> ok cool, should not be a problem i dont
think
2477 [18:19:01] <afx_> SynrGy: its WORKGROUP
2478 [18:19:03] <Iridos> can't remember, except that I did it
all within an hour or so because I had just bought it and was flying
overseas... the next day or so...
2479 [18:19:06] <afx_> on the server
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2482 [18:20:15] <Iridos> sine0, and I chose encrypted lvm for the
laptop... so far that also ran without problem
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2490 [18:22:19] <SynrGy> afx_: vs. on the client?
2491 [18:22:40] <afx_> Iridos: tried with the second folder ,
still nothing
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2501 [18:24:49] <afx_> SynrGy: its also WORKGROUP
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2519 [18:32:06] <vlt> Hello. What is the recommended way to
install GRUB on current stable?
replaced-url
2520 [18:32:24] <greycat> grub-efi for EFI boxes, grub-pc for not
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2524 [18:33:51] <vlt> greycat: Thanks.
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2530 [18:37:43] <vlt> I installed grub-efi, ran `grub-install
/dev/md126` and got "grub-install: error:
/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify
--target or --directory."
2531 [18:38:43] <vlt> There’s
/usr/lib/grub/i386-xen/modinfo.sh
2532 [18:39:03] * vlt reads man grub-install
2533 [18:39:30] <greycat> /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh is in
the grub-pc-bin package (not the -efi stuff)
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2539 [18:42:28] <vlt> When specifying --directory I get these
errors:
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2541 [18:42:54] <jhutchins> afx_: Just on a whim, try putting the
-o section after the share/mountpoint section.
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2547 [18:44:29] <vlt> Am I doing it wrong? Is grub-install (whch
came with grub2-common) not the right tool for grub-efi?
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2549 [18:45:43] <greycat> You mentioned xen. You also mentioned
/dev/md126 which is just baffling and frankly a bit frightening. Is
your thing that you are booting a virtual machine of some kind? If
so, does this virtual machine boot using (virtual) EFI or (virtual)
BIOS?
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2553 [18:48:10] <SynrGy> afx_: issue with the netname, then? just
a guess. i think someone already mentioned this.
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2557 [18:48:40] <afx_> net lookup resolves the name
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2559 [18:48:53] <SynrGy> why aren't you using the netname?
2560 [18:49:12] <vlt> greycat: Thank you for your time. I’ll
explain: I want to install Debian as a xen dom0 (host) and replace
an older Ubuntu. /dev/md126 is the device that later is mounted to
/boot. This is running in a chroot with bind-mounted /dev.
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2564 [18:49:41] <vlt> greycat: But maybe I should try to install
grub directly to /dev/sda (and sdb) instead.
2565 [18:49:44] <vlt> greycat: brb
2566 [18:49:44] <afx_> I try to reboot and check again !
2567 [18:49:47] <afx_> thank you all
2568 [18:49:49] <SynrGy> i would normally specify
//netname/dirname in my fstab
2569 [18:50:08] <afx_> ok
2570 [18:50:13] <afx_> will try that too
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2572 [18:51:13] <vlt> greycat: No, I get the same errors for
/dev/sda. This used to be sooo easy in previous versions ... hmmmm.
Maybe I’ll try grub-pc instead.
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2577 [18:53:33] <greycat> You really kinda have to know whether
your machine is booting via EFI or BIOS.
2578 [18:53:46] <greycat> Does your boot disk have an EFI
partition?
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2584 [18:56:16] <vlt> greycat: No, it doesn’t. I made the
mistake of choosing grub-efi because I thought the PC supports EFI.
Currently it boots GRUB and I think it should stay that way.
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2586 [18:56:43] <greycat> Right. A box without an EFI partition is
going to necessarily be booting in BIOS mode even if the machine
could also support UEFI booting.
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2590 [18:57:37] <vlt> greycat: I just tried to replace the current
grub(v2) which came with Ubuntu in 2012 with a "more
recent" grub from Debian.
2591 [18:58:07] <vlt> greycat: Maybe I should do that once that
new Debian is actually running :-D
2592 [18:58:21] <greycat> Use grub-pc since you don't have an
EFI partition and therefore can't boot in (U)EFI mode.
2593 [18:58:54] <greycat> Plenty of systems that are capable of
either one are still configured to boot in BIOS mode, for lots of
possible reasons.
2594 [18:58:55] <vlt> For now I’ll just edit grub.cfg to
point to the new root fs and then try again. Thanks so far!
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2601 [19:04:06] <Iridos> how'd you see the system can do
uefi? some bios option?
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2603 [19:04:44] <greycat> Yeah, that'd be one way.
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2605 [19:05:07] <greycat> Or it might have shipped with a disk
that originally had an EFI partition, but you wiped it out, etc.
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2627 [19:15:37] <nod3> has anyone here been in this situation:
md126 : active (auto-read-only) raid1 sdc[1] sdd[0]
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2630 [19:16:06] <nod3> I've tried mdadm --readwrite
/dev/md126 to no avail
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2633 [19:16:20] * greycat does a /whois nod3 and a /whois vlt
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2635 [19:16:33] <greycat> I... don't get it. Is
"md126" a common thing in Ubuntuspace?
2636 [19:16:33] <nod3> not the same person hehe
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2639 [19:16:51] <nod3> this is #debian is it not? heh...
2640 [19:16:53] <greycat> Who the hell has one hundred twenty-six
software RAID volumes?
2641 [19:17:08] <greycat> Why do TWO people have that many?
EXACTLY that many?
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2643 [19:17:23] <nod3> dunno. as I wrote earlier I had an existing
raid1 array, I did a fresh install and mdadm reports that now
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2645 [19:17:51] <nod3> this raid1 array is just a data partition
nothing to do with the OS itself..
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2650 [19:18:10] <nod3> the array was done through BIOS/Intel it
was working prior to the fresh install
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2656 [19:22:11] <plasmoduck> I need help setting up a mail server,
I'm running phpbb3, so I need to setup a mailserver so when
users register I get an email to activate their account.
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2659 [19:22:58] <axc1298> i tried to install a package with dpkg
-i and it had unmet dependencies. however the package is somehow
partially installed. i try to remove it with apt-get remove and get
/var/lib/dpkg/info/mypackage.postrm 7:
/var/lib/dpkg/info/mypackage.postrm: update-desktop-database: not
found dpkg: error processing package mypackage (--remove):
subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status
127
2660 [19:23:01] <nod3> greycat: I don't have 126 raid
volumes, the system is automatically naming them that way.
2661 [19:23:05] <axc1298> what should i do?
2662 [19:23:18] <nod3> axc1298: try apt-get install -f
2663 [19:23:37] <nod3> it should help resolve the dependencies and
finish installing the package...
2664 [19:23:42] <axc1298> nod3: same error when i try that
2665 [19:23:56] <axc1298> i want to remove the package, so that i
can install the dependencies first then re-install it
2666 [19:24:04] <axc1298> i am unable to install anything right
now however
2667 [19:24:16] <greycat> axc1298: You mixed stable and testing?
Or stable and unstable? Or you used an overly intrusive third party
repository and then removed it?
2668 [19:24:17] <plasmoduck> I own a domain name can I use that
for the mail server?
2669 [19:24:19] <axc1298> apt-get install -f tried to remove the
package and fails
2670 [19:24:31] <dikabo> I have a question related to RS232/serial
connection and agetty. I try to log in a laptop with Debian 8.5 from
windows with putty over a RS232/serial cable. In my case it is
necessary to start agetty _after_ putty to get a login. If putty is
started when agetty is already running, there seems to be no
connection. Any suggestions?
2671 [19:24:34] <axc1298> greycat: no. i tried to install a deb
built for stable but it isn't in stable repos
2672 [19:24:44] <Iridos> greycat, our redhat boxes have
md122-md127 and nothing else
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2675 [19:25:12] <T4ng10r> hi
2676 [19:25:30] <Iridos> greycat, I think it's counting
downwards from 127
2677 [19:25:43] <greycat> axc1298: was it built for *jessie*, or
for some indeterminate "stable" from who-knows-what-year?
2678 [19:25:53] <T4ng10r> how to solve this kind of dependency
problem -
replaced-url
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2680 [19:26:36] <axc1298> greycat: jessie. the dependencies are
both in jessie and this works on my other stable machine. i just
forgot to install the dependencies manually before doing dpkg -i
this time
2681 [19:26:42] <T4ng10r> i need to install
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
2682 [19:27:01] <greycat> axc1298: sounds like you should install
those dependencies by hand, then
2683 [19:27:04] <TomTomTosch> plasmoduck: your domain nam
registrar should provide a methode to set resource records. the mx
record is meant to point to the mail server.
2684 [19:27:32] <Iridos> axc1298, you have to fix the postrm
script
2685 [19:27:36] <axc1298> greycat: unfortunately i can't. if
i try and apt-get install anything right now, i am getting that
error. it tries to remove the broken package
2686 [19:27:56] <greycat> NOT WITH APT_GET
2687 [19:27:59] <greycat> I said by hand.
2688 [19:28:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1653
2689 [19:28:06] <plasmoduck> TomTomTosch: okay sweet, but what do
I have to do on my box?
2690 [19:28:10] <greycat> With dpkg -i. And wget. Or other web
agent of your choice.
2691 [19:28:20] <axc1298> Iridos: ok i'll try to open it up
and see what it looks like
2692 [19:28:23] <TomTomTosch> plasmoduck: install a mail server
and configure it.
2693 [19:28:25] <Iridos> dpkg, tell axc1298 about postrm
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2695 [19:28:58] <axc1298> Iridos: greycat: will try those. thanks
2696 [19:29:03] <axc1298> i will edit the script first
2697 [19:29:21] <Iridos> axc1298, try to fix the bug... or at
least see what it is... something makes the script exit with an
error... as the factoid told you in a private message, you can just
write "exit 0" to the begin of the script...
2698 [19:29:23] <plasmoduck> which one?
2699 [19:29:23] <plasmoduck> TomTomTosch: that's what
I'm asking, what to install and how to configure it, can you
point me to a url or something please?
2700 [19:29:46] <Iridos> then it'll exit
"successful" (but whatever it was supposed to do obviously
stays not done)
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2702 [19:30:23] <TomTomTosch> plasmoduck: that's not so
trivial. you can read up on postfix or a mailserver of your choice.
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2713 [19:32:55] <plasmoduck> TomTomTosch: I've never had much
luck setting up mailservers in the past, I know they can be quite
tricky.
2714 [19:33:13] <axc1298> Iridos: thanks i think i know what to do
now
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2716 [19:33:44] <abrotman> They're not tricky, they're
tricky to make work correctly :)
2717 [19:34:01] <TomTomTosch> plasmoduck: reading is the mother of
all skills.
2718 [19:34:06] <plasmoduck> abrotman: thanks for clarifying that
2719 [19:34:14] <abrotman> heh
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2721 [19:34:41] <abrotman> plasmoduck: the postfix.org site has a
bunch of great starter howtos, and a pretty good set of docs
2722 [19:35:09] <plasmoduck> usually my email ends up getting
sucked into some black hole in some alternate universe and I never
receive it.
2723 [19:35:33] <plasmoduck> abrotman: cheers, I'll check it
out now ;-)
2724 [19:36:20] <Iridos> axc1298, this is maybe a bit an annoying
feature, but it is by design... if the install scripts don't
work, dpkg just refuses to continue to do anything until you fix it
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2728 [19:37:46] <T4ng10r> how to solve this kind of dependency
problem -
replaced-url
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2732 [19:39:50] <Iridos> why are you installing with dpkg and
trying to resolve dependencies manually anyway
2733 [19:39:52] <Iridos> that's what apt is for
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2738 [19:40:23] <greycat> He installed some not-in-a-repository
.deb file.
2739 [19:40:41] <greycat> By hand. But then didn't install
the dependencies by hand to match.
2740 [19:41:24] <Iridos> judd, versions libtag1c2a
2741 [19:41:25] <judd> Package: libtag1c2a on amd64 -- squeeze:
1.6.3-1; wheezy: 1.7.2-1; wheezy-multimedia: 1.8-dmo1;
wheezy-backports: 1.9.1-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.9.1-2.1
2742 [19:41:36] <T4ng10r> I had app which requires gstreamer0.10
to make sound work, but debian testing had only gstreamer1.0 and
part of gstreamer0.10
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2745 [19:42:03] <Iridos> what version of debian are you using
2746 [19:42:06] <T4ng10r> most of them had installed successfuly,
but plugins-good failed due to above problem
2747 [19:42:15] <T4ng10r> currently I have testing
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2750 [19:42:40] <Iridos> judd, versions gstreamer0.10
2751 [19:42:42] <judd> No package named 'gstreamer0.10'
was found in amd64.
2752 [19:43:36] <abrotman> that's like .. squeeze?
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2754 [19:43:46] <T4ng10r> apt-cache search --names-only
gstreamer0.10 -> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
2755 [19:44:02] <abrotman> judd: versions
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
2756 [19:44:03] <judd> Package: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good on
amd64 -- squeeze: 0.10.24-1; wheezy: 0.10.31-3+nmu1; jessie:
0.10.31-3+nmu4+b1
2757 [19:44:14] <abrotman> T4ng10r: and which versoin of Debian
are you on?
2758 [19:44:30] <Iridos> testing, look two lines above :)
2759 [19:44:35] <T4ng10r> apt-cache policy
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good -> 500
replaced-url
2760 [19:44:49] <T4ng10r> I mean - in testing there NO
gstreamer0.10
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2763 [19:44:57] <T4ng10r> in jessie - they are
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2765 [19:45:01] <abrotman> T4ng10r: that's right, because
it's not that version anymore .. what are you actually trying
to do?
2766 [19:45:01] <greycat> Testing support is on the OFTC network
in #debian-next
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2770 [19:46:23] <T4ng10r> I want ONE APP to use sound, its
configured on gstreamer0.10, I added most of gstreamer0.10 needed
packages by hand (dpkg) but failt to solve problem in link
2771 [19:47:17] <Iridos> use the source package and try to compile
it for testing?
2772 [19:47:19] <T4ng10r> I don't want to reinstall system to
stable (jessie) to clean up whole mess and work with this APP
(TeamViz BTW)
2773 [19:47:29] <plasmoduck> I just asked for help in #postfix and
was told it's a #debian question, so.
2774 [19:47:34] <plasmoduck> I'm trying to configure postfix
and I have no idea what I am doing, I have the configuration guide
open from postfix.org. Basically, I run a local Debian server,
apache, phpbb3 etc. I own a domain name, I have a dynamic ip (no
rdns) so I use ddns.net to point my domain name to my webserver. I
would like to be able to send and receive email from my server over
the internet (using my domain name if possible, or at least my ddns
hostname)
2775 [19:47:55] <plasmoduck> So I am at the General type of mail
configuration: Should I select Internet Site, Internet with
smarthost?
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2777 [19:49:13] <T4ng10r> ok, i'll give a try
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2779 [19:49:21] <plasmoduck> I'm guessingg Internet with
smarthost?
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2781 [19:49:47] <Iridos> T4ng10r, you can try to let aptitude
resolve your dependency problem (but then have to add jessie repos
to yours and... mixing is always a mess, but you already started
down that way) or try to compile it with the source package fro
testing ( /msg dpkg ssb for backporting instructions, this is the
same procedure, just reverse in the repos you use)
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2788 [19:54:07] <Iridos> T4ng10r, also... pbuilder can make a
chroot in minutes... and one can log in to the chroot with a
pbuilder command and install arbitrary things (that are then
removed). Dunno how difficult you'd find it to start graphical
stuff. Else, this is a good options to try things out in another
version than what one is using
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2790 [19:55:24] <plasmoduck> abrotman: what would you think?
2791 [19:55:35] <plasmoduck> I mean, reading is one thing,
understanding it is another.
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2793 [19:56:27] <Iridos> deep learning
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2799 [20:00:16] <TomTomTosch> plasmoduck: it's "Internet
Site" for a mail server with a static ip.
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2804 [20:01:06] <T4ng10r> Iridos: thank you for tips, I don't
feel to good with chroot, I like to learn and understand what I do
instead of simply retyping what other has wrote
2805 [20:01:23] <Iridos> ?
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2807 [20:01:41] <leba2> Can Debian auto-calculate network and
broadcast addresses for /etc/network/interfaces in case of static
network configuration? Or do I still need to specify them?
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2810 [20:02:19] <Strogg> 'lo 'lo
2811 [20:02:32] <Strogg> anyone know a good place to ask makefile
questions?
2812 [20:02:34] <greycat> You need to specify the network mask. It
can calculate the "network address" and "broadcast
address" from that.
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2814 [20:03:01] <greycat> Strogg: ##workingset
2815 [20:03:05] <plasmoduck> I found this, so I am following it,
hopefully it works, looks promising.
replaced-url
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2817 [20:03:49] <Strogg> greycat: huh. thanks! I'll add that
to my autojoin list
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2820 [20:05:16] <leba2> greycat: thanks again sir. But I did know
that thing, which is why I was just asking about network address and
broadcast address. I do know host's ip address, subnet mask,
gateway and dns are the basic ones.
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2829 [20:07:18] <leba2> So for some reason d-i usually includes
network and broadcast address anyway when configuring static network
config, but I could actually skip/comment them, right?
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2832 [20:07:47] <greycat> TIAS
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2836 [20:08:42] <Neo> greetings everyone
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2838 [20:09:46] <leba2> Sorry, what does "TIAS" mean?
2839 [20:09:52] <Neo> I've got two protocols defined on dev
eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces the up scripts execute for inet,
but up doesn't seem to be executing for inet6. How do I got
about finding why?
2840 [20:09:55] <greycat> Try It And See
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2842 [20:10:37] <Neo> both protocols are declared static
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2845 [20:10:58] <Neo> inet6 does get configured correctly, but
doesn't execute the up scripts
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2848 [20:11:48] <leba2> Ok, thanks.
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2862 [20:21:44] <plasmoduck> what ports do i have to forward in my
router for postfix and dovecot?
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2865 [20:22:58] <greycat> Depends on what exactly you're
doing. To receive email from other sites, you need incoming 25/tcp
(SMTP). To allow IMAP clients to connect, you need incoming 143/tcp
(IMAP).
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2872 [20:25:20] <plasmoduck> fuck
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2874 [20:25:39] <plasmoduck> This is giving me a migraine
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2891 [20:34:58] <plasmoduck> # mail
2892 [20:34:58] <plasmoduck> bash: mail: command not found
2893 [20:35:00] <plasmoduck> wtf
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2896 [20:35:37] <greycat> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Sep 4 2015
/usr/bin/mail -> /etc/alternatives/mail
2897 [20:35:39] <greycat> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Sep 4 2015
/etc/alternatives/mail -> /usr/bin/heirloom-mailx
2898 [20:36:25] <Flippylosaurus> how do i send a mail using the
command line?
2899 [20:36:31] <Flippylosaurus> i have a MTA on my server
2900 [20:36:45] <plasmoduck> Flippylosaurus: should be able to
type mail like I am trying
2901 [20:37:18] <Flippylosaurus> root@flippylosaurus:~# mail
2902 [20:37:19] <Flippylosaurus> No mail for root
2903 [20:37:26] <greycat> Install any of the various command-line
MUAs (mutt, heirloom-mailx) and have at it.
2904 [20:37:40] <Flippylosaurus> wasnt there something like
mailsend
2905 [20:37:50] <greycat> ot
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2907 [20:37:54] <greycat> It's not hard, really.
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2910 [20:38:10] <plasmoduck> somethings seriously fucked up with
my mail
2911 [20:38:15] <plasmoduck> I can't even use local mail new
2912 [20:38:17] <plasmoduck> now
2913 [20:38:19] <greycat> echo "This is a test" | mail
-s "a subject" addr1 addr2 addr3
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2915 [20:39:00] <plasmoduck> bash: mail: command not found
2916 [20:39:11] <plasmoduck> thats after installing postfix and
dovecot
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2918 [20:39:42] <Flippylosaurus> how do i change the outgoing
address with mail?
2919 [20:39:44] <greycat> for fuck's sake, SCROLL UP and read
what was said 3 minutes ago
2920 [20:39:58] <greycat> (plasmoduck)
2921 [20:40:05] <plasmoduck> Yes I seen your permission listings
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2927 [20:41:36] <plasmoduck> how come before I could just type
'mail', greycat
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2930 [20:42:22] <eitzei> I guess greycat is trying to tell you
mail is only a symlink to other program. If you don't have that
symlink in place, "command not found"
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2932 [20:42:31] <greycat> Before what? Before you removed the
heirloom-mailx package or whatever was providing your
/etc/alternatives/mail?
2933 [20:42:56] <teraflops> plasmoduck: did you read the dpkg
messages while installing the stuff?
2934 [20:43:23] <plasmoduck> Honestly, I have NO idea what I am
doing.
2935 [20:43:27] <plasmoduck> This is beyond me.
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2938 [20:43:44] <teraflops> plasmoduck: then don't do it
2939 [20:43:58] <plasmoduck> I kinda *need* to :/
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2941 [20:44:08] <plasmoduck> Or find someone to do it for me for $
2942 [20:44:20] <plasmoduck> I'm trying to run a business
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2946 [20:45:11] <greycat> plasmoduck: Did you install
heirloom-mailx yet?
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2948 [20:45:18] <plasmoduck> I installed mutt
2949 [20:45:22] <greycat> OK, then use mutt.
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2951 [20:45:24] <greycat> Mutt is good.
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2953 [20:45:33] <plasmoduck> Im just going to go back to how it
was before. I purged postix
2954 [20:45:39] <plasmoduck> re-installing sendmail
2955 [20:45:39] <teraflops> plasmoduck: take a look at e.g upwork
then
2956 [20:46:00] <plasmoduck> I remember before I could send mail
from my box to gmail account
2957 [20:46:05] <N3X15> Well, it's a good thing I tested
downgrading to Jessie from testing on my test server. Ended up
having to reinstall the OS.
2958 [20:46:05] <plasmoduck> so that was kinda acceptable
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2960 [20:46:15] <greycat> I *did* give an example, yes? I
wasn't hallucinating that?
2961 [20:46:27] <plasmoduck> Yes you did greycat, cheers mate.
2962 [20:47:03] <plasmoduck> Hopefully I haven't fucked shit
up too bad and I can still sendmail to the
replaced-url
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2964 [20:47:27] <teraflops> if you're blindly reinstalling
sendmail I agree with you. you have not idea of what you're
doing
2965 [20:48:01] <greycat> You can't send mail to the
replaced-url
2966 [20:48:26] <plasmoduck> greycat: you know what I mean, send
mail externally.
2967 [20:48:43] <greycat> To the internet. To other mail servers.
2968 [20:48:51] <plasmoduck> Yes
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2970 [20:49:58] <x86iac> greycat: you heard of web mail?
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2972 [20:50:05] <plasmoduck> why is setting up mail server so
difficult. Surely someone has made some web front end for this to
eliminate frustration and migraine s.
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2974 [20:50:45] <greycat> x86iac: sure, but you don't *send
mail to the
replaced-url
2975 [20:51:09] <greycat> plasmoduck: it's not that
difficult.
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2977 [20:51:26] <plasmoduck> greycat: I think my system is in a
mess
2978 [20:52:15] <N3X15> Read the manual and how email works and
understand it before attempting to mess with it. Email on Linux is
already complex as hell to configure. You need to understand the
basics before attempting to break it.
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2983 [20:52:58] <plasmoduck> N3X15: I know it is complex as hell.
2984 [20:53:11] <N3X15> I would recommend using a VM or local test
server to test things rather than doing it on your production system
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2986 [20:53:25] <N3X15> That way, if you screw up, you can just
reinstall and try again
2987 [20:53:35] <plasmoduck> Good idea
2988 [20:54:18] <teraflops> plasmoduck: I strongly suggest you to
not setup an email server by yourself if you're planing a
business.
2989 [20:54:22] <N3X15> ^
2990 [20:54:37] <N3X15> gmail has good, premade email services,
for instance
2991 [20:55:01] <N3X15> Even lets you use it for your domain
2992 [20:55:02] <plasmoduck> But I want to use my domain name for
emails
2993 [20:55:08] <plasmoduck> How?
2994 [20:55:22] <teraflops> plasmoduck: take this works as a
kindly suggestion that will save you time and money
2995 [20:55:28] <teraflops> words
2996 [20:55:36] <N3X15>
replaced-url
2997 [20:55:47] <plasmoduck> Also, I need to have mail working on
my server for user registration needs
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2999 [20:55:56] <N3X15> there's more, that's just the
first result
3000 [20:56:07] <N3X15> and you can do that, you just set up
sendmail to SMTP to gmail
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3002 [20:56:18] <teraflops> plasmoduck: just use Google apps and
link your domain to Gmail servers
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3004 [20:56:44] <greycat> The google is friendly. The google
won't read your email. They promise!
3005 [20:56:53] <plasmoduck> I think I have to pay extra to use
mail services? Im not sure
3006 [20:56:59] <plasmoduck> I'm using godaddy.com
3007 [20:57:02] <N3X15> You may have to screw around with MX
records and whatnot, but it's still a lot better than
hand-configuring exim.
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3009 [20:57:15] <plasmoduck> Google is the NSA
3010 [20:57:16] <plasmoduck> Big brother
3011 [20:57:28] <N3X15> well, everyone's spying on everything
nowadays
3012 [20:57:28] <plasmoduck> I don't even use Google, I use
DuckDuckGo
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3014 [20:57:41] <N3X15> deal with it *sunglasses*
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3016 [20:57:47] <sm00th> lol
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3019 [20:58:03] <plasmoduck> I refuse to use Google!
3020 [20:58:09] <teraflops> greycat: that's better than
setting up a mail server for an actual business with the sysadmin
background we all have seen from him. no offense intended
3021 [20:58:20] <plasmoduck> and Facebook... I hate Facebook.
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3023 [20:58:23] <N3X15> Then use Godaddy's paid email
services
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3025 [20:58:40] <N3X15> I used to use them before they screwed me
on a bill
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3027 [20:58:52] <enertec> hi there
3028 [20:59:00] <N3X15> They provide email services in your
hosting section
3029 [20:59:01] <plasmoduck> N3X15: what happened?
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3031 [20:59:20] <plasmoduck> Yeah I clicked it and it said contact
customer support.
3032 [20:59:20] <N3X15> They overcharged me by $25 and refused to
fix it
3033 [20:59:35] <x86iac> they have to be reading my gmail email or
why else would i be getting pop up ads for depends
3034 [20:59:35] <N3X15> I charged them back and switched to
namecheap
3035 [20:59:52] <enertec> would you say that ext4 is the better
choice nowadays? i am formatting 3tb samsung / seagate external sub
3.0 drive
3036 [20:59:56] <enertec> usb
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3038 [21:00:09] <x86iac> enertec: yes ext4
3039 [21:00:17] <N3X15> enertec, depends on your usage patterns
and what you want out of it
3040 [21:00:17] <plasmoduck> yes
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3042 [21:00:26] <plasmoduck> N3X15: how did you charge them back?
3043 [21:00:29] <N3X15> I use reiserfs out of habit
3044 [21:00:39] <plasmoduck> ZFS
3045 [21:00:39] <N3X15> plasmoduck, credit card company magic
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3047 [21:00:50] <plasmoduck> N3X15: explain
3048 [21:00:56] <enertec> on wikipedia i read ext3 is more stable
but ext4 has much more performance
3049 [21:01:03] <x86iac> plasmoduck: zfs with 3tb?
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3052 [21:01:14] <enertec> zfs?
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3054 [21:01:24] <enertec> on a single usb 3tb drive?
3055 [21:01:29] <enertec> hm
3056 [21:01:37] <x86iac> enertec: stick to ext4 and use multiple
partitions
3057 [21:01:45] <greycat> Why the hell would you use anything as
experimental and nonstandard as zfs on an external disk?
3058 [21:01:54] <enertec> there is only one partition on it
3059 [21:02:02] <plasmoduck> Just for fun
3060 [21:02:12] <N3X15> greycat, maybe he's into
sadomasochism
3061 [21:02:18] <enertec> i wonder how they did it but it is mbr
/msdos an
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3063 [21:02:22] <plasmoduck> BDSM
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3066 [21:03:06] <enertec> i always thought that 3tb can only be
gpt
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3071 [21:04:08] <enertec> N3X15, ???
3072 [21:04:23] <enertec> why use multiple partitions
3073 [21:04:32] <enertec> isnt one partition fine as for data
3074 [21:04:41] <greycat> Use whatever you want.
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3076 [21:04:53] <aruna> hi does anyone know what the nm command (
binutils ) stands for please ? What I mean is the acronym *nm* what
does it actually stand for ?
3077 [21:04:57] <teraflops> yeah. whatever floats you goat
3078 [21:05:00] <x86iac> what if it goes bad? multiple partitions
don't all go bad at the same time
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3081 [21:05:18] <greycat> If it's an external disk then the
implication is that you might want to use it on more than one
computer, so you should PROBABLY choose something that is likely to
work on more than one computer, but hey, it's your disk.
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3085 [21:06:13] <enertec> its only there to store and archive data
3086 [21:06:19] <teraflops> yeah that's why zfs sounded ereplaced-url
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3094 [21:07:28] <plasmoduck> I just use zfs for all my media
3095 [21:07:33] <plasmoduck> FreeNAS
3096 [21:07:57] <x86iac> aruna: name mangling (resolves it)
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3098 [21:08:00] <enertec> freenas can work well with ext4 doesn
it?
3099 [21:08:45] <greycat> NAME
3100 [21:08:45] <greycat> nm - print name list of common object
file
3101 [21:08:55] <aruna> x86iac: Thank you but how does one
unmangle ?
3102 [21:08:57] <plasmoduck> look at my shirt
replaced-url
3103 [21:08:58] <greycat> Presumably it stands for "name
list".
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3105 [21:09:07] <plasmoduck> Keep calm and use FreeNas
3106 [21:09:43] <enertec> :-)
3107 [21:10:07] <plasmoduck> ;-)
3108 [21:10:08] <aruna> greycat: Thank you but my man pages says
-> nm - list symbols from object files
3109 [21:10:10] <x86iac> T non_mangled_function
3110 [21:10:32] * aruna am running debian
3111 [21:10:41] <greycat> aruna: I cited a NON-DEBIAN man page.
Because it gave me the information I wanted.
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3115 [21:11:03] <greycat> You wanted the origin of the name. So I
used a system that had less modern documentation.
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3117 [21:11:13] <aruna> greycat: no noo thank you so much for
helping I just wish I can find what the darn acronym actually means
?
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3119 [21:11:30] <x86iac> nm = name mangling
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3121 [21:11:31] <greycat> You don't think my citation was
accurate?
3122 [21:11:49] <x86iac> it is very very old
3123 [21:11:53] <axc1298> Iridos: adding exit 0 to the postrm
script solved the problem
3124 [21:11:55] <greycat> Feel free to dig up some other old-unix
system man pages and cross check it.
3125 [21:11:59] <axc1298> thanks
3126 [21:12:34] <Iridos> axc1298, yeah, I know... but whatever the
script was supposed to do didn't happen
3127 [21:12:40] <abrotman> plasmoduck: eh, what?
3128 [21:13:07] <aruna> greycat: absolutely accurate dear I am
trying to put together some documentation on kernel modules for
total newbies and wanted to list the actual names of some of the
tools used to analyse object files is all
3129 [21:13:07] <plasmoduck> abrotman: never mind, I've given
up.
3130 [21:13:10] <abrotman> plasmoduck: Oh, I assume you figured it
out by now
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3132 [21:13:24] <axc1298> Iridos: does it matter? i added exit 0,
then removed the package i was trying to install, installed the
dependencies, then installed the deb again, no errors and it works
3133 [21:13:40] <plasmoduck> It was stressing me out too much
3134 [21:13:50] <aruna> x86iac: name mangling huh ? Oh kay :-)
3135 [21:13:55] <axc1298> the script was trying to do 'set
-e' and 'update-desktop-database'
3136 [21:13:57] <plasmoduck> I need to keep calm and use gmail
3137 [21:14:02] <greycat> nm(1) does NOT come from "name
mangling". Just no.
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3140 [21:14:59] <x86iac> enertec: just remove the drive and you
will see next time you try to mount it
3141 [21:15:04] <greycat> "name mangling" is a term that
I first heard in the early C++ era, which is MUCH later than the
nm(1) program
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3143 [21:15:29] <greycat> And tells you pretty much everything you
need to know about C++.
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3146 [21:16:35] <x86iac> enertec: yes sync is good but umount will
do it if needed
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3152 [21:17:16] <aruna> greycat: So what do I say *nm* actually
stands for then ? I use gcc and plain old C has so far been
sufficient to resolve whatever my needs may have been.
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3157 [21:17:56] <greycat> aruna: my cited reference says it means
"print name list of common object file" so it is almost
certainly a shortening of "name" just like "ls"
is a shortening of "list" and so on.
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3160 [21:18:07] <enertec> thanks x86iac
3161 [21:18:11] <enertec> i appreciate your help
3162 [21:18:50] <aruna> greycat: x86iac: oh kay thank's very
much both of you.
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3214 [21:43:22] <Neo> changing my up to post-up and appending
'|| true' seemed to have fixed the fault
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3230 [21:47:47] <Neo> actually I take that back
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3244 [21:53:02] <BrainBug[BE]> Hey, Can anybody tell me I've
just shrunk my lv (lv_home) from 250 to 200GB. All works fine. After
some file checking I did lvreduce --resizefs -L 200G /dev/vg/lv_home
This worked, maybe because the drive was as good as empty, but what
happens if the drive is full? Will it give an error or anything like
that?
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3248 [21:54:53] <jelly> BrainBug[BE]: resizing the filesystem will
fail, then resizing the lv will fail as well, you'd end up with
no change
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3251 [21:55:38] <BrainBug[BE]> jelly, thank you for the
information.
3252 [21:55:45] <jelly> in theory that is. In practice I never let
lvchange/lvreduce do the implicit work, and always manually
resize2fs before reducing the block device.
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3256 [21:56:42] <jelly> BrainBug[BE]: was the filesystem unmounted
while doing lvreduce? Did you save the complete output of the
command?
3257 [21:57:07] <BrainBug[BE]> Yes, i've used resize2fs
first. I was just curious. The filesystem was indeed unmounted
first.
3258 [21:57:08] <jelly> if you have the output, it may shed some
light on whether it did the sane (safe) thing
3259 [21:57:24] <jelly> ah, that's just fine then.
3260 [21:57:27] <BrainBug[BE]> Jelly, ah but there is no problem
at the moment, just a practical question as in what would happen.
3261 [21:57:34] <greycat> In practice you never reduce the size of
a file system, except when it's a Windows partition that spans
the disk you want to install a real OS on.
3262 [21:58:06] <jelly> BrainBug[BE], I think you'd have have
to use --force because lvm tools do some sanity checking and detect
there's a filesystem
3263 [21:58:18] <jelly> and after you forced it, you'd have
data loss :-)
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3266 [21:59:10] <jelly> greycat, in practice, Debian installer
spans the LV for /home to fit the whole PV
3267 [21:59:19] <jelly> that is a dumb thing to do
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3270 [21:59:34] <greycat> OK, true, some people actually let the
installer partition for them....
3271 [21:59:41] <BrainBug[BE]> jelly, I would expect as much. But
it's nice to know if my lv is 90% full and I try shrink it to
lets say 80%, it throws me an error.
3272 [22:00:27] <jelly> BrainBug[BE], the LV is just a piece of
disk space, it's not 90% or 80% full. It's the filesystem
structures on top of it that have a concept of "full" and
"free" space
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3275 [22:01:16] <BrainBug[BE]> jelly, that actually makes sense.
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3277 [22:01:33] <jelly> so if you followed the same procedure, it
would be resize2fs that would throw an error
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3280 [22:02:22] <BrainBug[BE]> jelly, thanks for the info, I was
just testing out and playing around with lvm to get to know it a bit
better (and the commands).
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3294 [22:08:52] <jhutchins> Experience is proportionate to data
destroyed.
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3298 [22:09:15] <x86iac> and to failure to boot
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3302 [22:09:58] <x86iac> divided by man page readings
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3306 [22:12:09] <teraflops> jhutchins: heh very true
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3317 [22:15:16] <kanzure> p/win 12
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3320 [22:16:15] <miesco> Hi how do I stop my notification daemon?
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3323 [22:16:48] <jelly> miesco, what's a notification daemon?
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3326 [22:17:14] <teraflops> notify-osd dunst etc
3327 [22:17:25] <greycat> I would guess it's something
related to a desktop environment
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3330 [22:17:41] <miesco> teraflops: dunst says there is already
one running, but `ps aux | grep notif` returns nothing
3331 [22:17:53] <miesco> greycat: No its not
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3333 [22:18:20] <teraflops> miesco: yeah. please be specific. as
in which de wm are you in
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3335 [22:18:44] <greycat> what's a dunst
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3338 [22:18:57] <teraflops> a notification daemon
3339 [22:18:59] <teraflops> heh
3340 [22:19:33] <greycat> $ apt-cache search dunst
3341 [22:19:33] <greycat> dunst - dmenu-ish notification-daemon
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3343 [22:20:18] <teraflops> quite popular for i3 people I think
3344 [22:20:42] <teraflops> people who run i3 I meant
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3346 [22:21:09] <miesco> teraflops: dwm
3347 [22:21:15] * greycat still isn't clear on what a
"notification daemon" is. Is it like a terminal running
tail -f on a logfile? Or is it a popup that you have to dismiss
randomly every time it appears? Or...?
3348 [22:21:25] <turbo64> is it a good idea to upgrade from jessie
to stretch right now
3349 [22:21:41] <miesco> greycat: Its a bubble with words
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3351 [22:22:01] <BrainBug[BE]> miesco, probably obvious but ps aux
| grep dunst ?
3352 [22:22:15] <greycat> Is it always there, or does it appear
and disappear on its own, or do you have to interact with it to make
it go away, or...?
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3354 [22:22:28] <teraflops> miesco: grep prep for it. I do not
know the process name. if it's python search for python
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3356 [22:22:43] <teraflops> grep* sorry
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3358 [22:22:47] <miesco> BrainBug[BE]: No that doesn't work.
I removed dunst for now. Executing
`/usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon` just returns 1
with no words.
3359 [22:22:54] * babilen uses dunst
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3362 [22:23:36] <miesco> teraflops: I have removed all
notification daemons except for `notification-daemon`
3363 [22:23:39] * greycat guesses... from context... from miesco's
questions... that it's *not* always there, otherwise he
wouldn't be asking whether it's running
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3367 [22:24:11] <miesco> greycat: How do you get notifications?
3368 [22:24:30] <greycat> the phone rings and someone tells me to
do something, or I get an email and I read it and someone wants me
to do something
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3370 [22:24:45] <miesco> greycat: What if someone sends you a
message on irc?
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3372 [22:25:07] <greycat> If I happen to be looking at the IRC
client window, as I am right now, I'll see it.
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3378 [22:25:48] <miesco> greycat: What if you need to test the
output of a cron job
3379 [22:26:02] <greycat> output of cron jobs goes to email
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3381 [22:26:20] <teraflops> miesco:
replaced-url
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3385 [22:26:58] <miesco> teraflops: Not much there to read
3386 [22:27:29] <teraflops> packages providing notification
daemon...
3387 [22:27:59] <greycat> So desktop environment users have been
getting these things for so long that they assume everyone has
always gotten them and knows what they are.
3388 [22:28:02] <greycat> Interesting.
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3391 [22:28:37] <turbo128> hi
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3394 [22:30:16] <miesco> teraflops: Well any other of those
daemons all say that there is another one running and I can't
find it
3395 [22:30:19] <teraflops> greycat: I do notify-osd on xmonad. is
usefull to have a notification daemon. at least for me
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3399 [22:30:54] <miesco> greycat: What is your wm?
3400 [22:30:57] <teraflops> miesco: what
3401 [22:31:11] <teraflops> sorry I'm on the phone
3402 [22:31:14] <greycat> teraflops: does this thing listen on a
given port, or a unix domain socket, or something? Can miesco find
it by doing an lsof on whatever that thing is that it listens to?
3403 [22:31:27] <greycat> miesco: fvwm
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3405 [22:32:26] <teraflops> greycat: xmonad do a good job. I
import a library and then it integrates with the whole system. in
general is a dbus thingy afaik
3406 [22:32:40] <miesco> teraflops: If you go to aptitude, it says
replaced-url
3407 [22:32:48] <greycat> so is there a way to ask what all the
"dbus thingies" are?
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3413 [22:33:50] <blawiz> anyone using sc here? seems some of the
shortcuts doesnt work on my install (stretch)
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3417 [22:34:39] <teraflops> miesco: I'm not dunst user. what
I tried to day is that notification-daemon uses whatever
notification thing you install like the link I linked.
3418 [22:34:42] <BrainBug[BE]> greycat, I guess
/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service
3419 [22:35:59] <greycat> O dpm
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3422 [22:36:17] <greycat> I don't have that. I have the
directory, and it has files in it. They're small text files.
Maybe miesco has that file and he can read it.
3423 [22:36:36] <teraflops> miesco: sorry my typos
3424 [22:36:54] <BrainBug[BE]> greycat, neither do I but miesco
might. Miesco maybe this helps:
replaced-url
3425 [22:37:00] <miesco> teraflops: I think they might replace
notification-daemon
3426 [22:37:28] <teraflops> miesco: ah I thought the other way
around
3427 [22:37:52] <cilkay> Hello. I'm creating a Debian
VirtualBox VM via a preseed install. I see an error flash by on the
Alt-F4 console. I'd like to direct that console to a file that
persists so that I can analyze it on first boot. How would I do
that?
3428 [22:38:19] <cilkay> I don't see anything interesting in
syslog or dmesg.
3429 [22:38:25] <cilkay> ... on first boot
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3431 [22:38:44] <turbo64> is there a way to use ubuntu PPAs in
debian
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3433 [22:39:19] <teraflops> miesco: as in if you do notify-send it
works with any notification daemon
3434 [22:39:19] <x86iac> why would you ? what program you looking
for
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3436 [22:39:53] <teraflops> but I really shut up since I
don't do dunst
3437 [22:40:09] <turbo64> theres a foobar2000 clone called foobnix
i wanted to try
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3439 [22:40:31] <turbo64> i can compile it from source but ive
been curious how ubuntu packages would install on debian
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3441 [22:40:59] <greycat> I'd build from source if possible.
It's usually cleaner/safer.
3442 [22:41:03] <miesco> ...
3443 [22:41:04] <turbo64> im guessing it would work fine if all
the dependencies are satisfied but jessie's packages are
probably too old
3444 [22:41:09] <turbo64> yeah
3445 [22:41:28] <miesco> I installed xfce4-notifyd to test, it
brought in like 5 packages. I am removing it, and no other packages
are being removed...
3446 [22:41:30] <turbo64> this is probably not a popular opinion
but i think ubuntu is the worst thing that ever happened to linux
3447 [22:42:03] <teraflops> then do not frankendebianize your
debian
3448 [22:42:15] <turbo64> yeah im not gonna
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3450 [22:42:31] <BrainBug[BE]> teraflops, lol.
3451 [22:42:39] <turbo64> im thinking of upgrading to testing but
im always worried ill end up breaking everything
3452 [22:43:10] <cilkay> turbo64: You could build from source in a
Debian VM and pay attention to what you needed to do to get it to
work. Then, you can create your own Debian package from those steps.
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3454 [22:43:14] <miesco> Why isn't aptitude deleting these
files with an A flag?
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3456 [22:46:00] <dondelelcaro> miesco: you can always go aptitude
why foopkg; and it will tell you
3457 [22:46:28] <miesco> dondelelcaro: Luckly there is
/var/log/aptitude; I manually removed them alll...
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3459 [22:46:46] <miesco> But I don't like that AT ALL
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3461 [22:47:07] <CutMeOwnThroat> is there some chat server that
one could install and have up in a couple of minutes to replace
chatting with 2-3 people via gtalk?
3462 [22:47:11] <miesco> If a package brings in other packages, I
NEED them to all go when I remove that original package
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3464 [22:47:21] <dondelelcaro> miesco: what about it? packages
with an A were automatically installed, and if nothing depends on
them anymore, they'll be removed
3465 [22:47:33] <x86iac> miesco: purge?
3466 [22:47:41] <miesco> dondelelcaro: Well apparantly not in this
case
3467 [22:47:56] <dondelelcaro> miesco: well, that's why the
aptitude why foopkg; output is useful
3468 [22:48:15] <dondelelcaro> miesco: it's likely that there
is a package which suggests or recommends that package, or maybe
something else odd happened
3469 [22:48:24] <cilkay> CutMeOwnThroat: I don't know about
"a couple of minutes" but Rocket Chat and Mattermost are
supposed to be open source alternatives to Slack. They're both
on my TODO list to try.
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3472 [22:49:26] <miesco> install:
replaced-url
3473 [22:49:29] <miesco> dondelelcaro: Look there
3474 [22:49:31] <miesco> I just did that
3475 [22:49:43] <miesco> greycat: Do you know why?
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3477 [22:50:18] <greycat> Do I know why what?
3478 [22:50:19] <dondelelcaro> miesco: what about it? the first
and second look totally normal to me
3479 [22:50:47] <dondelelcaro> miesco: you asked to install
xfce4-notifyd, so the packages were scheduled to be installed. You
then asked that it be removed, so those packages are no longer
automatically being installed
3480 [22:51:34] <miesco> dondelelcaro: They are not being removed
3481 [22:51:47] <miesco> greycat: Why my auto installed packages
are not being removed
3482 [22:51:48] <dondelelcaro> miesco: did you complete the
install between those two images?
3483 [22:51:55] <miesco> dondelelcaro: Yes
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3485 [22:52:03] <dondelelcaro> miesco: so what does aptitude why
xfconf; say?
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3487 [22:52:43] <dondelelcaro> or aptitude why libxfce4util6;
3488 [22:53:07] * dondelelcaro is going to guess that it's
something which Recommends: or Suggests: xfconf
3489 [22:54:01] <BrainBug[BE]> apt-get autoremove normally works
to clean up stuff...
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3491 [22:54:31] <miesco> dondelelcaro: Oh interesting, they are
all being deleted when I install something after xfce4-notifyd is
already uninstalled
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3502 [22:58:29] <gho> hi is there a way to easily get a more
recent kde on debian stable?
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3512 [23:00:53] <turbo64> upgrading to stretch inb4 my laptop
explodes
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3515 [23:01:39] <CutMeOwnThroat> cilkay, never heard of them
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3525 [23:08:25] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jul 21
06:53 lucid_lime <- what does the 6 mean and how do I make it a
5?
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3533 [23:10:48] <x86iac> that is the link count ... why would you
want/think you should change it?
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3538 [23:12:12] <CutMeOwnThroat> cilkay, those aren't
packaged... but... ejabberd?
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3543 [23:13:13] <CutMeOwnThroat> dunno... it should be a bit
better than unix talk on the shell
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3547 [23:14:02] <Hello71> !xy
3548 [23:14:02] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you
need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We
suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell
us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely
diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's
easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See
replaced-url
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3555 [23:16:02] <plasmoduck> x86iac:
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3557 [23:16:04] <plasmoduck> because
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3559 [23:16:12] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jul 21
06:53 lucid_lime
3560 [23:16:13] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19
19:23 prosilver
3561 [23:16:19] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19
19:23 subsilver2
3562 [23:16:24] <plasmoduck> notice the rest are 5
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3564 [23:16:58] <teraflops> I tried vuvuzela recently is not a
quick setup thingy at all but looks promising. it also has a Web
interface.
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3567 [23:17:16] <plasmoduck> and lucid_lime which I just
downloaded, isn't showing up in phpbb3 ACP > Board settings
> Default style
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3569 [23:17:28] <plasmoduck> So I'm guessing it's cause
it's a 6 not a 5
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3573 [23:19:06] <x86iac> wrong
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3578 [23:19:51] <plasmoduck> why the hell isn't it showing up
then?
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3580 [23:19:53] <Hello71> nah, it's because the name
doesn't have "silver" in it, you need to rename it to
lucidsilver
3581 [23:20:01] <plasmoduck> I really?
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3583 [23:20:06] <Hello71> oh, and also the mtime is wrong, you
need to change that too
3584 [23:20:07] <Hello71> /s
3585 [23:20:29] <plasmoduck> how do I change that?
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3587 [23:20:47] <x86iac> touch
3588 [23:20:57] <Hello71> ...
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3590 [23:21:53] <x86iac> we should have played hangman with him
t....
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3592 [23:22:04] <plasmoduck> just 'touch lucidsilver' ?
3593 [23:22:33] <plasmoduck> still not showing up :/
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3595 [23:23:07] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jul 21
07:20 lucidsilver
3596 [23:23:07] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19
19:23 prosilver
3597 [23:23:12] * Hello71 facepalms
3598 [23:23:13] <plasmoduck> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 19
19:23 subsilver2
3599 [23:23:58] <plasmoduck> a little guidance please I have been
stuck trying to get this working for over an hour
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3602 [23:24:40] <plasmoduck> the instructions just say to extract
it to /usr/share/phpbb3/styles and symlink it to /etc/phpbb3/styles
3603 [23:24:42] <plasmoduck> which I did
3604 [23:24:59] <plasmoduck> and then it should show up... but
nooooooo it doesn't want to show up now does it!
3605 [23:25:11] <plasmoduck> nothing ever want's to show up
for me
3606 [23:25:30] <plasmoduck> things like hiding from me
3607 [23:25:47] <miesco> Im going to try restarting and see if
notification-daemon works
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3609 [23:25:53] <plasmoduck> please
3610 [23:26:04] <plasmoduck> x86iac: Hello71: ?
3611 [23:26:11] <plasmoduck> what am I missing
3612 [23:26:50] <x86iac> did you do the link correctly?
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3614 [23:27:21] <x86iac> ls -l /etc/phpbb3/styles
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3616 [23:27:41] <plasmoduck> ln -s
/usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucid_lime/ /etc/phpbb3/styles/
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3618 [23:28:36] <x86iac> is that what you typed it said to do at
x:24:18
3619 [23:28:46] <plasmoduck> it didn't say how to do it
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3621 [23:29:11] <x86iac> you said the instructions just say to ...
3622 [23:29:30] <plasmoduck> it said to symlink it
3623 [23:29:39] <plasmoduck> But didn't say the command, I
messed up
3624 [23:30:00] <x86iac> styles linked? and not lucid_lime?
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3626 [23:30:46] <plasmoduck> omg seriously...
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3629 [23:31:20] <plasmoduck> from:
/usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucidsilver# I done ls
/usr/share/phpbb3/styles/
3630 [23:31:24] <plasmoduck> is that correct?
3631 [23:31:39] <plasmoduck> ls -a
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3633 [23:31:46] <plasmoduck> wait
3634 [23:31:47] <plasmoduck> wtf
3635 [23:31:51] <miesco> Okay, I get this with notify-osd: **
(notify-osd:4521): WARNING **: dbus_create_service_instance(): Got
error "/usr/bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally without any
error message"
3636 [23:31:55] <plasmoduck> ln -s
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3638 [23:33:54] <miesco> Which is funny because... I don't
have a `/usr/bin/dbus-launch`~
3639 [23:35:05] <miesco> Okay I installed 'dbus-x11' and
it all works
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3642 [23:36:39] <plasmoduck> . /etc/phpbb3/styles# ln -s
/usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucidsilver/
3643 [23:37:08] <plasmoduck> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Jul 21
07:35 lucidsilver -> /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/lucidsilver/
3644 [23:37:08] <plasmoduck> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 May 13 2015
prosilver -> /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/prosilver
3645 [23:37:08] <plasmoduck> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 May 13 2015
subsilver2 -> /usr/share/phpbb3/styles/subsilver2
3646 [23:37:16] <plasmoduck> wtf isn't it showing up
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3651 [23:39:00] <plasmoduck> its broken
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3656 [23:40:01] <x86iac> get real instructions for what you want
to do
3657 [23:40:59] <plasmoduck> oh here it is
3658 [23:41:01] <plasmoduck> rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 672 Jul 21
06:53 lucidsilver/style.cfg
3659 [23:41:13] <plasmoduck> should be like this
3660 [23:41:14] <plasmoduck> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 643 Sep 28
2013 subsilver2/style.cfg
3661 [23:41:23] <plasmoduck> what do I have to chmod it too?
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3664 [23:42:03] <x86iac> i'm guessing a cfg file is a config
file and the 644 gives read access to everything
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3666 [23:42:15] <plasmoduck> yes
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3670 [23:43:24] <CutMeOwnThroat> cilkay, oh, Prosody is packaged
for debian and looks ok, let's see
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3688 [23:50:32] <chaddy> /n
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3705 [23:55:34] <sine0> is anyone familiar with putting
debian/netinstall on a usb
3706 [23:55:46] <sine0> can I just cp iso directly onto the sdb
3707 [23:56:15] <chaddy> dd is the preferred method, I believe
3708 [23:56:23] <vic> sine0: ^^ cp will not work
3709 [23:56:37] <chaddy> sudo dd if=/your/iso/file.iso of=/dev/sdb
3710 [23:57:00] <chaddy> then sync
3711 [23:57:16] <zykotick9> vic: ahhh cp works fine for making
debian iso->usb... just sayin'
3712 [23:57:25] <vic> wat!?
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3715 [23:57:53] <zykotick9> vic: "sudo cp debian.iso
/dev/sdb" then "sync" for example.
3716 [23:58:14] <vic> huh, ok I never thought of that
3717 [23:58:18] <vic> TIL
3718 [23:58:58] <vic> I'm used to people who would burn an
ISO onto their CD.. having worked with Windows so much this was a
common problem.
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