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0 [00:00:16] <bibble> literally, start, then just set and get
variables
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26 [00:17:58] <awal1> Any virtual keyboard with arabic language
support?
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28 [00:18:30] <awal1> I have tried xvkbd, onboard & florance
but no support for arabic
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45 [00:32:57] <mountaingoats> Can anyone help me figure out what
I can now longer startx? This is my Xorg.1.log when I run startx.
replaced-url
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48 [00:34:49] <dvs> [ 1657.144] (EE) open /dev/fb0: Permission
denied
49 [00:35:00] <dvs> How does that happen???
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56 [00:39:48] <mountaingoats> dvs, I have no idea. This is my
brothers laptop and I don't have any idea what changes he might
have made to cause this :-\
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95 [01:06:10] <iKarith> One wonders how Red Hat, interested
mostly in enterprise stability, ever got within 10 astronomical
units of systemd. *sigh*
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98 [01:07:13] <gry> redhat were the ones who pushed it into
debian, actually; I don't complain because I switched to
upstart just fine and I'm happy with it
99 [01:07:37] <gry> if you're deploying debian anywhere
whatsoever, you're free to make the same switch and deploy it
without systemd, if you prefer
100 [01:07:51] <gry> there's nothing overwhelmingly major
about it being shipped by default
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102 [01:07:58] <dvs> or use systemd-shim to stick with sysv
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105 [01:08:33] <iKarith> Not so easy when you're not just
using it.
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107 [01:08:46] <PryMar56> iKarith, RH masks maybe one or two
system units. Debian masks scores
108 [01:08:58] <PryMar56> systemd units
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110 [01:09:32] <PryMar56> so, when using systemd on RH, its more
`pure`
111 [01:10:39] <iKarith> My issue is that fundamental things like
booting single-user don't work anymore, and the instructions
for how to work with a system to fix this under systemd are obsolete
and out of date.
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116 [01:11:16] <iKarith> And in fact this is one of the boasts:
systemd is not complete and always changing.
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120 [01:12:22] <awal1> gry, upstart became every day more
obsolete. ubuntu have switched to systemd
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122 [01:12:51] <gry> awal1: I'm sure the old init systems
will be maintained for a while
123 [01:13:12] <iKarith> I haven't even found a procedure
for remounting / ro (you can't do it by dropping down to the
"equivalent" of runlevel 1)
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128 [01:14:43] <iKarith> The thing is just too complex, too
large, too poorly understood, too poorly documented, and too fond of
changes to be evolved on a day to day basis. Some structure and
forethought is necessary here.
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132 [01:15:25] <gry> iKarith: due to lack of knowledge, i refuse
to comment; if you have specific questions, you can ask them at
#systemd at chat.freenode.net
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136 [01:16:16] <iKarith> I've got no problem with a Mac-like
init replacement (and let's be honest, that's what systemd
is whether RH admits that or not.) The difference is that
Apple's attempt at replacing init has a defined, static
interface, it has well-established boundaries, it isn't looking
to grow to encompass everything, and changes to it are designed to
fix edge cases rather than change functionality.
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151 [01:18:33] <iKarith> I know/understand/use the Mac's
system. I'm not 100% sure it's an optimal solution (and it
wouldn't be anywhere that plist management was not part of
libc), but it does work, is understandable, and yes you can actually
boot a system without it, or could until it became so solid you
wouldn't want to. :)
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160 [01:20:30] <iKarith> Anyway, I'm done ranting for the
moment. :P I just lost a system that couldn't be booted
single-user (repeated the give root passwd message 3 times and
accepted no input) because an optional fuse filesystem didn't
mount for netatalk.
161 [01:20:45] <iKarith> Had to restore that system from backup.
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180 [01:24:50] <iKarith> No actually, one more complaint: Process
exited with an error code (which I, the almighty systemd, am not
going to tell you. Go run a program that you may not be able to run
to parse a binary logfile to maybe find out what the numeric error
code was.)
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303 [02:02:27] <squigz> I'm getting a segfault on startx.
log is at
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310 [02:06:53] <johnkeates> squigz: you are using an unsupported
kernel/x combo
311 [02:07:12] <squigz> That sounds fun to fix
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313 [02:07:29] <johnkeates> either get the older stable kernel,
or a newer not-so-stable X
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315 [02:07:56] <johnkeates> also, if you run ldd on X you should
see what libs it expects, but as far as I can see you have them
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320 [02:08:32] <squigz> Well what had happened was I was running
the fglrx driver, but I couldn't configure my VGA screen with
xrandr. so I removed the fglrx driver, and installed the backports
version of libg1-mesa-dri as per missmbob's advice
321 [02:08:36] <squigz> now, segfault
322 [02:08:48] <johnkeates> it probably has inter-dependency
issues
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324 [02:09:00] <johnkeates> you'd need a complete backported
X system, kernel, libs etc.
325 [02:09:06] <johnkeates> maybe
326 [02:09:06] <squigz> :(
327 [02:09:08] <missmbob> no
328 [02:09:18] <johnkeates> maybe run with stretch :p
329 [02:09:26] <johnkeates> since you won't be stable anyway
330 [02:09:36] <johnkeates> and it's due for a
freeze/bughunt in a few months anyway
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332 [02:10:05] <squigz> I only recently switched to Debian. Which
one is stretch?
333 [02:10:11] <missmbob> squigz: know what...for shits, try
apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu -t jessie-backports
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335 [02:10:26] <missmbob> squigz: stretch is testing right now.
it'll be the next debian release
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337 [02:10:52] <squigz> Ah
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339 [02:11:03] <squigz> missmbob: installed that. reboot?
340 [02:11:07] <missmbob> squigz: yeah
341 [02:11:09] <squigz> brb
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351 [02:13:17] <squigz> that didn't help :P
352 [02:13:23] <missmbob> damn
353 [02:13:41] <squigz> I thought sid was testing?
354 [02:13:53] <missmbob> no. sid is unstable
355 [02:13:56] <squigz> Ah
356 [02:14:04] <squigz> jessie is stable, right?
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358 [02:14:07] <missmbob> yes
359 [02:14:17] <squigz> well I may as well upgrade to something
newer
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361 [02:14:30] <missmbob> !jessie->stretch
362 [02:14:34] <squigz> I'm kind of stuck in a tty though :P
could someone link me to the netinst ISO for Debian stretch?
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364 [02:14:45] <squigz> missmbob: I'd rather just reinstall
365 [02:14:48] <squigz> This is a brand new installation anyway
366 [02:15:06] <missmbob> squigz: if you want try the alpha 8
stretch installer
367 [02:15:25] <missmbob> squigz:
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369 [02:15:28] <troy_16bit> Hey, just curious is Debian 6.1 still
getting security updates? I found an ancient CD with it on there,
just curious if it could still be used....
370 [02:15:44] <squigz> missmbob: I'm stuck in a GUI-less
environment
371 [02:15:46] <squigz> I can't open that
372 [02:16:00] <redrabbit> yes you can. if you like pain
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375 [02:16:17] <c-c> Debian needs a USB-device -securing
confirmation on-usb-connect.
376 [02:16:23] <c-c> Or is there such a facility?
377 [02:16:28] <c-c> Related: Poisontap
378 [02:16:36] <redrabbit> does anybody uses hostapd here ?
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385 [02:19:00] <squigz> is updating from jessie to stretch fairly
painless?
386 [02:19:29] <missmbob> most of the time
387 [02:19:48] <squigz> Good. I have a jessie USB I can install
from, then I'll just update to stretch
388 [02:20:03] <missmbob> then you'll want to go here:
389 [02:20:06] <missmbob> !debian-next
390 [02:20:06] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
391 [02:20:25] <squigz> Why is that one on OFTC? o.O
392 [02:20:31] <missmbob> !oftc move
393 [02:20:31] <dpkg> irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th
2006, see
replaced-url
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395 [02:20:56] <squigz> I see
396 [02:21:03] <squigz> Are you in both then, missmbob?
397 [02:21:09] <missmbob> usually
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399 [02:21:26] <squigz> Good. I'm hoping not to rrun into
anymore issues, but if I do, I'll blame you over in
#debian-next
400 [02:22:05] <missmbob> i wasnt the one that suggested stretch
;) but i dont know how to fix your problem right now
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405 [02:23:11] <petn-randall> troy_16bit: squeeze doesn't
get any security support anymore.
406 [02:23:12] <squigz> yeah I'm having nothing but issues
with the graphics drivers
407 [02:23:16] <squigz> I shouldn't have started messing
with them
408 [02:23:27] <petn-randall> squigz: Didn't the FOSS
drivers work for you?
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410 [02:23:35] <squigz> They have
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413 [02:24:16] <petn-randall> squigz: Then why not use them?
414 [02:24:27] <zykotick9> trying to <SSB> mame to jessie -
during "apt-get -b source mame" errors out with
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415 [02:24:30] <squigz> long story, but basically: started with
jessie + fglrx, went to sid, broke it, reinstalled jessie + OSS, VGA
display wasn't working, installed fglrx, and everything went
downhilll from there
416 [02:24:30] <missmbob> he is. segfaulting
417 [02:24:30] <zykotick9> ackport output it mentions "..
all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, archignore,
jessie-backports." <- what is archignore?
418 [02:24:42] <missmbob> haha. great story ;)
419 [02:25:08] <squigz> updating to sid was my mistake
420 [02:25:15] <iKarith> Huh, I'd missed that i.d.o had
actually moved to OFTC, given that it happened in 2006 while I was
busy being a grad student. Been centuries since I had need to be in
#d-d and I knew there were channels on both networks. Just totally
missed the detail that the "move" was in any way official.
421 [02:25:28] <missmbob> squigz: so why not just stick with
jessie after you reinstall?
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424 [02:26:25] <squigz> missmbob: Because I broke jessie + fglrx,
and jessie + OSS won't allow me to use my third monitor for
some reason
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426 [02:26:38] <squigz> missmbob: sid + OSS was working fine
427 [02:26:42] <missmbob> best of luck with that fuckaroo
428 [02:26:43] <squigz> I'm hoping stretch will be fine too
429 [02:26:56] <squigz> missmbob: thanks :P
430 [02:26:58] <squigz> linux++
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498 [02:58:09] <monlith___> Hey
499 [02:58:31] <monlith___> Installed lxde on base debian (no de)
500 [02:58:45] <monlith___> Embarrasingly, can't manage to
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501 [02:58:56] <monlith___> I know I need to get x11 and lightdm
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502 [02:59:01] <monlith___> But am having difficulty
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707 [04:38:15] <goldbox> hey
708 [04:38:26] <goldbox> hey guys
709 [04:38:44] <goldbox> ass hole debian:(
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712 [04:40:06] <jim_carry> Why so?
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732 [05:04:08] <Jen909> Hi folks.
733 [05:04:29] <Jen909> If I get a QHD monitor is my CPU going to
be under more stress (no gaming)?
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794 [05:55:03] <coogle> Hello all, can someone help me with a
sudoers issue I'm having trying to restart lightdm from Apache
/
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796 [05:55:55] <SporkWitch> that seems non-desirable... you want
to be able to restart the display manager from the web? O.o
797 [05:56:01] <coogle> I have a shell script that executes
service lightdm restart, I've added that to sudoers for
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798 [05:57:00] <coogle> SporkWitch: Raspberry Pi project ;) To be
more specific I want to restart DM when Alexa gets a voice command
to do so because sometimes chromium crashes and it's easiest
just to bounce the entire DM when that happens
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800 [05:58:04] <SporkWitch> ugghh, pi >_< so many issues;
can you pastebin the relevant lines from sudoers?
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806 [05:59:15] <coogle> SporkWitch: no need...
replaced-url
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808 [05:59:52] <SporkWitch> silly question, but is the script
executable? :)
809 [06:00:02] <coogle> indeed. :)
810 [06:00:38] <coogle> the script just calls /usr/sbin/service
lightdm restart
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819 [06:08:57] <odigem> hi
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827 [06:12:26] <odigem> i want install linux-headers but my
version missed in repo. my kernel version 4.7.0-1-amd64
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831 [06:13:54] <nbags> odigem: how did you install that version?
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836 [06:14:59] <odigem> nbags: i dont install it, i install
debian yesterday
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838 [06:15:34] <nbags> odigem: i dont think thats the version in
debian is it?
839 [06:15:42] <odigem> 8 jessie
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842 [06:16:14] <Rortech> Anyone here
843 [06:16:28] <Rusty1_> what if there was?
844 [06:16:59] <Rortech> lol was trying to get this irc all set
up and have not been able to chat
845 [06:17:13] <Rortech> so I guess... testing
846 [06:17:25] <missmbob> there used to be in jessie-backports.
now it got upgraded to 4.8
847 [06:17:52] <missmbob> so basically you need apt-get update
&& apt-get install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 -t
jessie-backports
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849 [06:18:13] <missmbob> then reboot into the new kernel
850 [06:18:52] <Rortech> Just switched to Debian today so getting
everything set up
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852 [06:19:39] <missmbob> odigem: paste.debian.net the output of
lsb_release -a
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867 [06:28:46] <Rortech> Kind of new to the whole irc thing. why
do some channels say 404 cannot send to channel
868 [06:30:07] <bibble> some channels require you to be voiced,
before you can speak
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870 [06:30:25] <Rortech> how do you get voiced
871 [06:30:35] <bibble> normally have to pm some bot in the
channel
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873 [06:30:50] <missmbob> a lot of channels just require you to
use a registered nick
874 [06:31:05] <missmbob> /msg nickserv help
875 [06:31:09] <Rortech> ok thanks.. the linux chan won't
let me send
876 [06:31:18] <missmbob> register and you'll be fine :P
877 [06:31:32] <Rortech> thank you
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879 [06:31:40] <bibble> yeah, definitely register like missmbob
is saying for #linux
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881 [06:35:12] <odigem> missmbob: Value «jessie» is
unacceptable for the APT :: Default-Release, since the issue is not
available in the sources
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883 [06:37:33] <missmbob> odigem: paste.debian.net your
/etc/apt/sources.list
884 [06:37:53] <missmbob> odigem: you never did pastebin the last
thing i asked you for, either. lsb_release -a
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892 [06:41:42] <odigem> missmbob:
replaced-url
893 [06:42:15] <missmbob> odigem: yeah you have it all wrong. you
only have sources for the main repo and nothing for jessie-updates
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895 [06:42:19] <missmbob> !jessie sources.list
896 [06:42:19] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb
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897 [06:42:42] <missmbob> you need those 3 lines and then add the
jessie-backports line
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899 [06:43:09] <missmbob> then apt-get update
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906 [06:44:49] <eumel> !jessie firmware-linux-amd64
907 [06:45:38] <missmbob> eumel: you probably want
firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-linux-free and/or
firmware-misc-nonfree
908 [06:45:47] <missmbob> or are you looking for cpu microcode?
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910 [06:47:27] <eumel> !firmware-linux-nonfree
911 [06:47:50] <missmbob> eumel: not everything has a factoid.
you can do apt-cache show firmware-linux-nonfree in terminal for
information
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913 [06:48:04] <missmbob> you need to add non-free to your repos
914 [06:48:06] <missmbob> !non-free
915 [06:48:06] <dpkg> [non-free] a component which contains
software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free
packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free
sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me
about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see
replaced-url
916 [06:48:44] <eumel> i wanted to know which kernel for amd64 is
currently available in backports / sid, thought there could be a
factoid for it
917 [06:48:50] <eumel> please ignore that
918 [06:49:13] <eumel> thanks for you help
919 [06:49:22] <missmbob> !kernels
920 [06:49:25] <dpkg> Linux kernel versions, mainline: 4.9-rc6,
stable 4.8: 4.8.9, stable 4.7: 4.7.10 (EOL), longterm 4.4: 4.4.33,
longterm 4.1: 4.1.35, longterm 3.18: 3.18.44, longterm 3.16:
3.16.39, longterm 3.12: 3.12.67, longterm 3.10: 3.10.104, longterm
3.4: 3.4.113, longterm 3.2: 3.2.84, linux-next: next-20161117
921 [06:49:33] <eumel> ah nice!
922 [06:49:40] <odigem> missmbob: where must be jessie-backports
?
923 [06:50:08] <missmbob> odigem: you already have a
jessie-backports in there. keep that line.
924 [06:50:12] <odigem> i got warnings about mistake in
sources.list
925 [06:50:19] <missmbob> odigem: paste it again
926 [06:50:27] <odigem> debian have wget paste?
927 [06:50:39] <missmbob> !pastebinit
928 [06:50:39] <dpkg> pastebinit is a command-line tool to send
data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"
users, you must "pastebinit -b
replaced-url
929 [06:51:01] <eumel> odigem:
replaced-url
930 [06:51:17] <eumel> really nice website for generating
sources.list files
931 [06:51:24] <missmbob> too bad judd is offline
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934 [06:52:53] <odigem> missmbob:
replaced-url
935 [06:53:16] <Screamslash> im running my display and audio
through hdmi like i always have and i restarted today and the audio
is muted how do i fix this?
936 [06:53:40] <eumel> Screamslash: open alsamixer in terminal
and check the volume there!
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938 [06:54:04] <Screamslash> its not muted
939 [06:54:31] <missmbob> odigem: delete everything you have.
make it look exactly like this.
replaced-url
940 [06:55:01] <Screamslash> this is driving me insane
941 [06:55:07] <Screamslash> it was working fine earlier all i
did was restart my pc
942 [06:55:21] <missmbob> Screamslash: running pavucontrol could
help
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944 [06:55:58] <Screamslash> command not found
945 [06:56:31] <missmbob> Screamslash: does pgrep pulseaudio
output a number?
946 [06:56:56] <Screamslash> yes
947 [06:56:57] <Screamslash> ~$ pgrep pulseaudio
948 [06:56:58] <Screamslash> 30358
949 [06:56:58] <missmbob> then sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
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951 [06:57:40] <Screamslash> then what
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953 [06:57:48] <missmbob> then you should be able to run
pavucontrol
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957 [07:00:16] <Screamslash> ok i got pavucontrol to run
958 [07:00:18] <Screamslash> now what
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960 [07:00:38] <missmbob> check for the correct levels/mute/not
mute and proper output device, etc. look and play around
961 [07:00:48] <missmbob> have something playing noise in the
background
962 [07:01:19] <Screamslash> nothing is muted
963 [07:02:09] <Screamslash> it sayd HDMI(UNPLUGGED)
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965 [07:02:16] <missmbob> that's a problem :P
966 [07:02:24] <Screamslash> how is that possible if im running
the display through the hdmi right now
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968 [07:02:43] <missmbob> not sure. did you change kernels or
anything? you said it was working, right?
969 [07:02:47] <Screamslash> yes
970 [07:02:51] <missmbob> yes to what?
971 [07:02:54] <Screamslash> all i did was log in and log out
972 [07:03:01] <Screamslash> it was all working
973 [07:03:03] <missmbob> have you tried rebooting?
974 [07:03:03] <Screamslash> i didnt change anything
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983 [07:08:27] <odigem> missmbob: target Translations configured
few times
984 [07:09:25] <ghormoon> hi, I've got interestingly broken
flashdisk, previosly there was efi bootable iso DDed to it, so I
tried DDing zeros to it to "fix" (i.e. delete) bad
partiton table (grparted complains it is in 512byte blocks but
device is 2048), now /dev/sda syas it's 10MB and even dding
zeros to it doesn't destroy /dev/sda1 ... what am I missing?
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991 [07:12:53] <odigem> missmbob: i got same error "not have
in sources:
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997 [07:14:52] <missmbob> odigem: paste your sources again
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999 [07:15:23] <odigem> missmbob:
replaced-url
1000 [07:15:24] <missmbob> ghormoon: is anything open that's
keeping it used? gparted?
1001 [07:15:53] <missmbob> odigem: jesus no. what part of me
saying "delete everything you have and replace it with
this" didn't you understand?
1002 [07:16:09] <missmbob> odigem: *exactly* like this.
replaced-url
1003 [07:16:12] <odigem> missmbob: i copy your paste
1004 [07:16:22] <missmbob> odigem: look at what i just pasted and
tell me that's the same thing
1005 [07:16:22] <odigem> odigem: try upgrade
1006 [07:16:31] <odigem> get error
1007 [07:16:40] <odigem> add jessie-backport to all line
1008 [07:16:41] <missmbob> of course you get errors because your
sources are fucked
1009 [07:16:49] <missmbob> odigem: will you please open up that
paste i just gave you?
1010 [07:20:02] <odigem> missmbob: ok i use only your config
1011 [07:20:12] <odigem> update without errors
1012 [07:20:21] <ghormoon> missmbob: not likely, tried it in
another laptop an it did show as an unknown partition table, maybe
my laptop got nuts from the experiment
1013 [07:20:23] <odigem> but newer kernel not installed
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1016 [07:20:41] <odigem> says installed newest version
1017 [07:21:04] <ghormoon> yeah, if I plug it back, it's
broken again :)
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1019 [07:21:08] <odigem> kernel is 4.7+75 but headers in 4.8+76
1020 [07:21:42] <missmbob> odigem: that's stretch's
kernel. the 4.8+76 one. so you added that to your system which is a
great way to break stuff (mixing stable and testing). dont do that
1021 [07:21:48] <ghormoon> is there anything to debug this or the
standard windooze solutions for problems applies here? :)
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1024 [07:22:24] <missmbob> odigem: you can remove the linux
headers packages you currently have and then get it from
jessie-backports using -t jessie-backports
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1026 [07:23:07] <missmbob> which is why i asked for lsb_release -a
forever ago.
1027 [07:23:12] <odigem> missmbob: i not add strecth to
sources.list. why this fucking debian self upgrade to testing
version?
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1029 [07:23:45] <odigem> in normal release testing masked
1030 [07:24:02] <odigem> linux*
1031 [07:24:04] <missmbob> given how fucked your sources were i
dont doubt anything
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1033 [07:24:21] <missmbob> dpkg -l linux-headers*"
1034 [07:24:21] <dpkg> ii linux-headers*" 3.3-12
missmbob's private warez collection
1035 [07:24:23] <odigem> missmbob: I NO TOUCH SOURCES.LIST
1036 [07:24:25] <missmbob> damn
1037 [07:24:33] <odigem> I ONLY ADD NON_FREE
1038 [07:24:35] <missmbob> dpkg -l "linux-headers*"
|grep ^i will tell you which are installed
1039 [07:24:36] <dpkg> ii "linux-headers*" |grep ^i will
tell you which are installed 2.2-15.2 missmbob's private coin
collection
1040 [07:24:47] <odigem> missmbob: 3.7....
1041 [07:24:47] <missmbob> odigem: you or someone did. your
sources werent made by the installer
1042 [07:24:53] <odigem> *4.7....
1043 [07:25:22] <odigem> holy shit
1044 [07:25:50] <odigem> where it came from 4.8 ???
1045 [07:26:05] <odigem> all try to upgrade failed
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1047 [07:26:42] <odigem> debian is worst distro
1048 [07:26:49] <hantu> lol
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1059 [07:34:17] <eumel> odigem: try ubuntu, that's african
for "i'm not able to setup debian!"
1060 [07:34:58] <odigem> eumel: you idiot? ubuntu based on debian!
1061 [07:35:03] <babilen> eumel: Please, there really is not need
for comments like that
1062 [07:35:32] <eumel> you're right sry for that
1063 [07:35:33] <babilen> odigem: And I would also appreciate it
if you could stick to technical problems and refrain from insults
1064 [07:36:34] <eumel> odigem: are you sure about that? ubuntu
looks much different then debian
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1067 [07:36:57] <eumel> odigem: it's more brown and orange
than blue
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1070 [07:37:34] <odigem> eumel: fuck himself and use bolgenos
1071 [07:38:06] <ongy> Hi. I am having problems configuring my
network interface. I dropped a config I think should work in
/etc/network/interfaces.d, but things don't work.
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1072 [07:38:43] <eumel> ongy: what exactly is the error?
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1076 [07:39:17] <ongy> the Interface is down. Both when I start
with cable plugged in and plugging in while started
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1078 [07:40:45] <eumel> ongy: you're using a Network Manager
or manual config?
1079 [07:41:33] <eumel> ongy: can you post an ifconfig -a / ip
link show in some pastebin?
1080 [07:41:36] <ongy> I don't have network manager. I
dropped that file in /etc/network/interfaces.d/enp2s0.
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1084 [07:42:40] <PAV> never really understood that debian-ubuntu
flame. How about you jelly ?
1085 [07:43:01] <ongy>
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1093 [07:46:58] <eumel> ongy: do you receive any errors on ifup
enp2s0?
1094 [07:47:34] <ongy> I do, let me fix that
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1100 [07:48:24] <ongy> ok, the config file had an error,
allow-hotplug is without iface, and has to be after the interface
config
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1103 [07:51:08] <eumel> ongy: that's right,
"allow-hotplug interface" is correct
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1110 [07:54:13] <fredl> hmmm
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1112 [07:54:37] <fredl> can somebody please do a whois on me and
tell me why my IP address looks the way it does?!
1113 [07:54:59] <eumel> fredl: it's an ipv6 address
1114 [07:55:00] <preaction> fredl: that's an ipv6 address
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1116 [07:55:12] <fredl> yes, but I see it 2 times
1117 [07:55:19] <ongy> I don't
1118 [07:55:22] <preaction> i don't
1119 [07:55:24] <eumel> me neither
1120 [07:55:29] <fredl> hmmm
1121 [07:55:45] <fredl> interesting
1122 [07:56:17] <fredl> well 2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f833
*should* reverse resolve to smtp.3dn.nl
1123 [07:56:31] <fredl> and I'm wondering why freenode
doesn't see that
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1125 [07:57:09] <fredl> when I do nslookup
2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f833 on my cmdline I do get
3.3.8.f.e.a.e.f.f.f.0.d.f.1.2.0.1.0.0.0.a.2.4.9.0.8.9.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
name = smtp.3dn.nl.
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1127 [07:57:51] <fredl> it looks in my ifconfig that I have two
scope global addresses too
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1131 [07:59:00] <fredl> I have a system that I configured from
scratch so it has a new internal IPv4 address....
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1134 [07:59:18] <fredl> as a consequence it got a new IPv6 address
automatically, not sure exactly how that works
1135 [07:59:33] <fredl> but now I'm trying to configure it to
have the IPv6 of my old server
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1137 [07:59:43] <fredl> and added to /etc/network/interfaces:
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1139 [07:59:53] <fredl> iface eth0 inet6 static
1140 [07:59:53] <fredl> address 2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f833
1141 [07:59:53] <fredl> gateway 2001:980:942a:1:c225:6ff:feb0:a296
1142 [07:59:53] <fredl> netmask 64
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1144 [07:59:54] <babilen> dpkg: pastre
1145 [07:59:54] <dpkg> parse error: dunno what the heck
you're talking about, babilen
1146 [07:59:57] <babilen> dpkg: paste
1147 [07:59:57] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
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1150 [08:00:03] <fredl> sorry
1151 [08:00:16] <babilen> Please don't paste into the
channel, but use
replaced-url
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1153 [08:00:34] <fredl> yes I know, thought 4 lines wouldn't
be flooding but I guess I'm typing too fast :)
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1157 [08:02:05] <fredl> hmm well....
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1159 [08:02:30] <fredl> so not sure why freenode can't
reverse resolve it
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1165 [08:04:58] <ongy> could be DNS-caches for all we know. the
TTLs are rather high
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1171 [08:06:26] <fredl> hmm, well the reverse has been in there
for long time, used to reverse-resolve fine for old server
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1174 [08:06:49] <fredl> but thinking maybe it's a gmail
thing, their mailserver giving me crap
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1176 [08:07:12] <fredl> I'll see that I add the forward AAAA
record again, maybe they're complaining about that now
1177 [08:07:45] <fredl> anyway, got it, tnx guys, laterz
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1227 [08:34:56] <holdme> Hello
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1241 [08:45:07] <styler2go> Hi, is there some easy command to find
a wifi device? ifconfig, lsusb and lspci doesn't list it
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1244 [08:45:53] <eumel> iwconfig
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1246 [08:46:31] <themill> styler2go: perhaps real commands and
full output in a pastebin would help?
1247 [08:46:55] <eumel> styler2go: use /sbin/iwconfig
1248 [08:47:01] <styler2go> themill, those were real commands?
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1250 [08:47:24] <styler2go> eumel, does not exist
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1253 [08:48:01] <themill> styler2go: well you'd need ifconfig
-a; lspci -nn; etc.
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1255 [08:49:09] <eumel> themill: not necessary
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1257 [08:49:27] <eumel> styler2go: install it, package is
"iw"
1258 [08:49:34] <themill> if you want useful information it is
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1260 [08:49:44] <styler2go> eumel, i installed it but package was
"wireless-tools"
1261 [08:50:09] <Rogach> Why apt always downloads full .deb
archive when updating? Wouldn't it be nicer to download only
the difference, since previously installed deb is cached anyway?
1262 [08:50:11] <eumel> styler2go: okay, maybe it was installed by
dependencies
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1264 [08:50:21] <themill> Rogach: debdelta exists
1265 [08:50:31] <themill> !debdelta
1266 [08:50:31] <dpkg> it has been said that debdelta is a
framework for updating machines using binary diffs of the .deb
packages rather than downloading the full .deb. See
replaced-url
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1268 [08:51:07] <themill> Rogach: someone still has to make the
differences between the two .deb files for you and store some
history of updates for you and eventually you realise that for 99%
of packages you're better off just grabbing the new one
1269 [08:51:56] <eumel> themill: ifconfig lists all active
interfaces by default, why is -a needed?
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1271 [08:52:27] <themill> eumel: it's unlikely to be up,
given the context of the question
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1273 [08:52:53] <themill> If the interface were up and configured,
there wouldn't be a question to ask.
1274 [08:53:14] <eumel> themill: makes sense i guess
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1277 [08:53:45] * Rogach themill: Wow, debdelta is a good find - I was
not able to find anything like that and ended developing something
myself. Does it handle embedded archives well? (specifically
zip/gzip)
1278 [08:53:48] <Rogach> themill: Wow, debdelta is a good find - I
was not able to find anything like that and ended developing
something myself. Does it handle embedded archives well?
(specifically zip/gzip)
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1284 [08:54:20] <ByteStorm> guys is it true tht you hav to keep
your bluetooth on for the wifi to work in a laptop?
1285 [08:54:41] <babilen> It isn't
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1289 [08:55:14] <themill> Rogach: it uses xdelta for it, so it
handles it as well as xdelta will. xdelta fails pretty badly on some
compression options
1290 [08:55:14] <babilen> I am aware of at least one case in which
that isn't the case
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1297 [08:55:49] <jelly> ByteStorm: mine doesn't. It's
plausible some _specific_ crazy buggy hardware platform with
intesting rfkill breakage might need something like that
1298 [08:55:53] <styler2go> iwconfig doesn't list any device,
eumel
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1301 [08:56:34] <missmbob> which is why themill asked for lspci
-nn
1302 [08:56:35] <eumel> styler2go: do you have drivers installed
for the specific device?
1303 [08:56:50] <styler2go> I am trying to find the device first,
eumel
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1306 [08:57:37] <eumel> styler2go: follow missmbob and themill,
lspci -nn should list you're wifi device
1307 [08:57:48] <styler2go> missmbob, but lspci doesn't list
any wifi device. It shows: Host bridge, VGA compatible controller,
Multimedia controller, signal processing controller, usb controller,
encryption controller and ISA bridge
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1309 [08:57:58] <ByteStorm> jelly could you advice me to how to
check if proper wifi drivers are installed on my lappy?
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1313 [08:58:14] <babilen> styler2go: Show us the commands you
executed and their complete output on
replaced-url
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1315 [08:58:15] <styler2go>
replaced-url
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1329 [09:01:25] <ByteStorm> guys wait for me ive to restart now
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1351 [09:08:00] <Elirips> Hello. I'm on debian jessie,
running certbot from backports. I'm trying to figure out who is
chaning the permission of /var/log/letsencrypt/letsencrypt.log from
user 'certbot' to user 'root':
replaced-url
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1374 [09:13:33] <MaBunny> ok guys,so how do i check if my wifi
driver is working properly or not?
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1378 [09:14:59] <styler2go> iwconfig? :D
1379 [09:15:18] <nkuttler> define working properly
1380 [09:17:25] <MaBunny> well,working properly = not having both
bluetooth and wifi ON at the same time
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1394 [09:26:45] <ws2k3> question, i have 2 debian machines
configured as a load balacers. they work fine for many years
already. only they are running debian 6. is it recommanded to
upgrade them? is leaving them on debian 6 a security risk?
1395 [09:27:31] <missmbob> yes. yes. 6 LTS support ended in Feb
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1398 [09:29:16] <ws2k3> missmbob but they are only reachable on
LAN, all WAN ports are closed except 80 and 443, and those just get
forwarded to other machines using keepalived so where would be the
security risk
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1400 [09:30:18] <eumel> ws2k3: if someones intruded into the lan
he can attack those two targets easy
1401 [09:31:22] <ws2k3> eumel hmm yeah seems valid. so i just need
to go upgrade those machines?
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1403 [09:31:27] <styler2go> So, anyone an idea how to find my wifi
hardware device? My lspci --n:
replaced-url
1404 [09:32:28] <eumel> styler2go: lspci doesn't list a wifi
device (i didn't see one), maybe it's name is not that
obvious, you could grep in dmesg for it ..
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1407 [09:32:56] <nkuttler> styler2go: try lsusb
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1410 [09:33:41] <styler2go> nkuttler, no wifi device :/
replaced-url
1411 [09:33:50] <eumel> ws2k3: how likely is it that someone will
intrude you're LAN?
1412 [09:33:54] <nkuttler> well, i can't open your js-only
bin anyway
1413 [09:33:57] <styler2go> But i know that it's onboard, it
has an antenne plug and on windows it was working
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1415 [09:35:07] <eumel> styler2go: have you searched in dmesg
output? .. should be recognizes somewhere in it
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1417 [09:35:42] <styler2go> eumel, nothign about "wifi"
or "wlan"
1418 [09:35:49] <nkuttler> styler2go: net
1419 [09:36:31] <styler2go> nothing really.. just audit:
initializing netlink subsys (disabled)
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1423 [09:37:01] <nkuttler> styler2go: check your manual, the one
that came with the machine
1424 [09:37:24] <styler2go> on which hint? which driver i need?
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1426 [09:38:36] <nkuttler> styler2go: anything really. how
it's connected, chipset, etc
1427 [09:38:43] <styler2go> ok i will try
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1429 [09:38:49] <babilen> styler2go: It would help to know the
name of your (allegedly installed) wifi card
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1432 [09:39:13] <styler2go> it's onboard on a SoC
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1437 [09:40:40] <eumel> styler2go: what about broadcom or br, i
think they don't match wifi / wlan
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1440 [09:43:44] <unborn> is there any way to read messages from
boot screen? I saw something red there but was unable to pause it
while booting debian..
1441 [09:44:19] <missmbob> dmesg --color=always
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1444 [09:46:10] <nohitall> hi, I need some ideas, I can't ssh
into a system from another system, root via sshkey is enabled, no
firewall rules, everytime I try it asks for password and fails. Not
sure if I forget anything to check
1445 [09:46:45] <nohitall> weird thing is its not even showing the
root login attempt in auth.log
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1448 [09:48:20] <eumel> nohitall: try ssh -v, that should give you
a more verbose log
1449 [09:48:27] <styler2go> I found the windows driver for my
device and found it is Realtek 8723as
1450 [09:49:09] <eumel> nohitall: you can extend this to ssh -vvv
for debug logging in level 3
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1452 [09:50:19] <nohitall> eumel: true, forgot I have that
1453 [09:50:22] <styler2go> so i found out the wifi device is
conencted via SDIO, does linux support this?
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1456 [09:50:44] <eumel> styler2go: styler2go found a thread via
google, firmware realtek should contain this driver
1457 [09:50:54] <eumel> styler2go:
replaced-url
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1463 [09:51:13] <nohitall> eumel: how to interpret this?
replaced-url
1464 [09:51:25] <nohitall> weird
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1470 [09:53:25] <eumel> nohitall: the server most likely
can't access the authorized_keys file, i've seen this
before
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1472 [09:53:50] <eumel> nohitall: can you check permissions on the
.ssh directory and authorized_keys file?
1473 [09:54:01] <nohitall> I did , they are correct, 700 on .ssh
and 600 on auth file
1474 [09:54:08] <nohitall> but as I said login attempt doesnt even
show in auth.log
1475 [09:54:24] <nohitall> but I can ssh into with my user and
password, but only from another machine
1476 [09:54:28] <nohitall> makes no sense :/
1477 [09:54:44] <nohitall> root setting is without-password,
jessie defaults
1478 [09:54:48] <nohitall> fresh jessie install
1479 [09:54:54] <eumel> nohitall: is there a firewall between the
other machine and the target or something?
1480 [09:54:59] <nohitall> no
1481 [09:55:09] <nohitall> first thing I checked
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1483 [09:55:58] <eumel> styler2go: firmware-realtek is in the
non-free branch, you'll have to add this to your sources.list
1484 [09:56:03] <nohitall> not my first server, just came here
because I am out of ideas hehe
1485 [09:56:12] <nohitall> I wonder why it said "we did not
send a paket"
1486 [09:56:16] <nohitall> due to lack of response?
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1488 [09:56:23] <themill> nohitall: /root/.ssh/id_ed25519 is
unlikely to be the public key; that should be a private key
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1490 [09:56:38] <nohitall> themill: true, weird
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1492 [09:57:05] <themill> (I don't recall if ssh
automagically adds/removes .pub but I do remember playing this game
before)
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1494 [09:57:18] <nohitall> I defo copied the pubkey
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1496 [09:57:51] <themill> You'd normally copy the private key
(from client to server)
1497 [09:57:52] <eumel> nohitall: can you call ssh with -i and the
key file directly? so that we know it's using the right one?
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1500 [09:58:42] <eumel> themill: the server get's the
id_rsa.pub file usually?
1501 [09:58:59] <Ticho> just inspect the file, if it is just one
line, it's a public key, if it says PRIVATE KEY, it is that
1502 [09:59:03] <themill> err umm yeah
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1504 [09:59:26] <nohitall>
replaced-url
1505 [09:59:28] <nohitall> same
1506 [09:59:54] <nohitall> Ticho: the files are correct
1507 [10:00:02] <nohitall> using them since 2 years, just checked
too
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1509 [10:00:15] <Ticho> btw, why not use ssh-copy-id utility to
make sure it gets copied and added correctly?
1510 [10:00:15] <nohitall> I can ssh into my other machines from
there just fine
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1513 [10:00:29] <eumel> maybe there's something wrong with
the keys in /etc/ssh/, you could run rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host_* and
reconfigure with dpkg-reconfigure sshd afterwards
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1515 [10:00:35] <Iota> Hi Debianers :3
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1519 [10:00:56] <Ticho> perhaps the permissions on
.ssh/authorized_keys file are too lax - ssh doesn't like that
1520 [10:01:06] <Ticho> that's a common issue
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1522 [10:01:26] <nohitall> -rw------- 1 root root 97 Nov 20 20:25
/root/.ssh/authorized_keys
1523 [10:01:32] <nohitall> chmod 600, chmod700 .ssh
1524 [10:01:41] <Iota> What should I install, MySQL-Server or
MariaDB-Server ?
1525 [10:01:53] <nohitall> Iota: personal choice, I'd favor
MariaDB
1526 [10:01:56] <eumel> nohitall: that's how it should be
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1528 [10:02:03] <themill> is postgresql a valid answer?
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1530 [10:02:15] * Iota high-fives nohitall
1531 [10:02:18] <eumel> themill: or sqlite?
1532 [10:03:22] <eumel> nohitall: bad ownership of files / folders
should also be mentioned somewhere in auth.log i think
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1534 [10:03:54] <nohitall> huh ok I think I know why, seems I am
getting redirected to the wrong system
1535 [10:03:57] <eumel> nohitall: you're not running selinux
or something?
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1539 [10:04:22] <unborn> thanks missmbob
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1541 [10:04:40] <nohitall> oh man
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1543 [10:04:42] * nohitall facepalms
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1545 [10:04:50] <themill> hah
1546 [10:04:57] * nohitall pushes face through the face
1547 [10:05:02] <themill> dpkg, pal nohitall
1548 [10:05:02] * dpkg points at nohitall and laughs
1549 [10:05:08] <nohitall> dns cache
1550 [10:05:21] <nohitall> Just wondered why -v said remote
version is 7.3
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1553 [10:06:32] <unborn> Job rpcbind.service/start deleted to
break ordering cycle starting with basic.target/start - should I be
worried about this?
1554 [10:06:47] <eumel> styler2go: any good news on the realtek
front?
1555 [10:07:03] <styler2go> eumel, trying to compile and trying to
find out hwo to use sdio
1556 [10:07:14] <styler2go> had to dist-upgrade first etc.
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1561 [10:08:47] <nohitall> love when people change dns entries
without tell you
1562 [10:08:52] <nohitall> thanks guys
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1567 [10:10:08] <eumel> nohitall: you're welcome
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1577 [10:12:29] <styler2go> eumel, didn't really work out at
all
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1580 [10:13:58] <eumel> styler2go: you installed the driver and
did what?
1581 [10:14:12] <eumel> styler2go: can you lsmod and check if wl
modules are compiled now?
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1583 [10:14:29] <eumel> styler2go: i guess you have to reboot or
modprobe modules now
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1585 [10:14:43] <styler2go> i did modprobe and reboot
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1587 [10:14:57] <styler2go> the thing is, the wifi device is an
sdio device
1588 [10:15:04] <styler2go> so i need something to get sdio
working
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1592 [10:16:17] <babilen> And this is a run-off-themill Debian?
1593 [10:16:29] <styler2go> strecht/testing
1594 [10:16:29] <babilen> What's the device?
1595 [10:16:38] <styler2go> some SoC device
1596 [10:16:46] <styler2go> with amd64 cpu
1597 [10:16:48] <babilen> So you don't know the name?
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1599 [10:17:00] * themill highlights babilen in return
1600 [10:17:08] <babilen> :-þ
1601 [10:17:15] <styler2go>
replaced-url
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1628 [10:26:09] <jelly> styler2go: lspci -nn would be a bit more
useful
1629 [10:26:16] <eumel> styler2go: shouldn't this be handled
by the realtek driver?
1630 [10:26:33] <styler2go> eumel, not if it has no SDIO support i
guess
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1632 [10:26:48] <styler2go> jelly,
replaced-url
1633 [10:27:06] <missmbob> is there actually anything going on
with #841533 and #841419 or are we just going to have to use
workarounds forever? no big deal...just wondering if there's a
plan so i can tell phil
1634 [10:27:07] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
1635 [10:27:37] <jelly> TIL: cherry trail is WEIRD
1636 [10:27:45] <styler2go> ikr
1637 [10:27:47] <styler2go> really weird
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1639 [10:28:06] <styler2go> setting up X was a struggle already
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1648 [10:30:06] <jelly> what are its hwdec capabilities, does it
do H.265?
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1651 [10:30:30] <styler2go> on the cherry trail?
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1654 [10:30:42] <jelly> yes
1655 [10:31:05] <styler2go> i only tried H.264 yet
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1659 [10:31:42] <fairway> morning
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1662 [10:34:42] <eumel> styler2go: i'm out, aren't sdio
devices supported on linux?
1663 [10:34:55] <eumel> styler2go: totaly confused right now
1664 [10:35:33] <styler2go> i am not sure, i never had such a
think
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1666 [10:35:36] <styler2go> thing*
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1670 [10:36:48] <styler2go> jelly, just tried a 1280x720 sample
and it worked nicely
1671 [10:36:52] <eumel> styler2go: can you type the cars model
again?
1672 [10:36:58] <eumel> styler2go: *the cards
1673 [10:37:15] <jelly> styler2go: but does it say it used vaapi
or not
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1675 [10:38:36] <styler2go> Using hardware decoding (vaapi).
1676 [10:38:36] <styler2go> VO: [opengl] 1280x720 vaapi
1677 [10:38:45] <styler2go> command was: mpv --fs --vo=opengl
--hwdec=vaapi TearsOfSteel_720p_h265.mkv
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1680 [10:39:46] <jelly> nod
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1683 [10:40:21] <jelly> that would make it usable as a htpc
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1685 [10:40:50] <styler2go> i think so. but windows worked a lot
smoother on it to be honest.. maybe cherry trail is too new?
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1688 [10:41:21] <shtrb> Is there any danger in adding
"secure_file_priv=" inside
~/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf (workaround for
replaced-url
1689 [10:41:22] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1691 [10:41:26] <eumel> styler2go: what was you're wifi cards
serial again?
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1696 [10:42:11] <eumel> styler2go: can you check if the model is
listed in apt-cache show firmware-realtek?
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1698 [10:42:46] <eumel> maybe the driver isn't supported by
the package in the repos, you'd have to compile from source
then
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1701 [10:43:34] <JyZyXEL> what is the command to re-build a simple
sid backport when there is a new dash release of the package?
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1704 [10:44:20] <styler2go> eumel, if there is source
1705 [10:44:25] <JyZyXEL> it seems as doing 'apt-get -b
source' in the same directory might not actually do the right
thing
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1708 [10:46:41] <eumel> styler2go: is it listed? i'd really
like to know how you fixed this.
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1711 [10:47:29] <styler2go> it is listed
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1713 [10:48:30] <eumel> styler2go: okay. hm, had some similiar
issue a while a go with an sdio device, solved that by installing
drivers from the repos.
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1717 [10:49:58] <styler2go> somehow it doesn't recognize it
1718 [10:50:02] <styler2go> can't figure out why
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1722 [10:53:06] <styler2go> i found the windows drivers for it..
but that doesn't really help i guess
1723 [10:53:26] <missmbob> who knows...
1724 [10:53:40] <missmbob> !ndiswrapper
1725 [10:53:40] <dpkg> NDISwrapper enables the use of Windows XP
(not Vista/7/8) network device drivers within the Linux kernel (x86
and x86-64 systems only). If a Linux kernel driver is available for
your device, consider using that instead; for wireless LAN devices,
ask me about <wireless>. To install NDISwrapper on Debian
systems, see
replaced-url
1726 [10:53:48] <missmbob> sounds like the devil's magic
1727 [10:53:59] <styler2go> really sounds like it
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1729 [10:55:25] <eumel> compatible windows and linux drivers, not
suprising these days :D
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1733 [10:56:39] <shtrb> missmobb , you say it like FOSS isn't
some unholy magic
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1735 [10:57:02] <shtrb> but NDIS drivers are borken on windows
because of a redisgn
1736 [10:57:10] <shtrb> so a recent driver would crash win 8 /10
1737 [10:57:17] <shtrb> *8.1 / 10
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1743 [10:58:38] <shtrb> anything which is NDIS 6 and up is
dangerous
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1745 [10:59:59] <styler2go> i don't want to use ndis anyway
:D
1746 [11:00:12] <styler2go> but damn.. how hard can it be to get
the SDIO wifi running
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1748 [11:00:49] <shtrb> I had to change 3 different normal wifi
dongeles to find one that would work in debian
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1750 [11:00:56] <shtrb> so , don't be amazed
1751 [11:01:31] * shtrb praise the atheros gods
1752 [11:02:09] <styler2go> this one is onboard, hard to change :D
1753 [11:02:38] <shtrb> you can always add another one
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1755 [11:03:38] <styler2go> yeah.. will be the final solution
1756 [11:03:39] <shtrb> check the local makers hacker space they
are magicitions with solder iron
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1758 [11:04:14] <shtrb> *magicians
1759 [11:04:31] <styler2go> strange part is that the device is not
listed in /sys/bus/sdio/
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1761 [11:05:25] <shtrb> I missed the details what device is it ?
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1764 [11:05:32] <shtrb> one of the connect over GPIO ?
1765 [11:05:43] <styler2go> no, over SDIO
1766 [11:05:51] <styler2go> it's onbaord but on the SDIO bus
i guess
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1775 [11:11:06] <Crabunhador> Hi all, I'm trying to install
Jessie in a new computer, but the installer does not list disk
partitions. Instead, I have the option to "Configure iSCSI
volumes" in the menu, but I've never configured such a
thing
1776 [11:11:30] <shtrb> your disks are not seen
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1779 [11:11:46] <Crabunhador> The thing is that if I go to a
console pressing Alt + F2 and run 'fdisk -l' the
partitions seem to show correctly
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1781 [11:12:02] <shtrb> a router from free telecom ?
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1783 [11:12:26] <shtrb> wrong channel
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1793 [11:20:18] <Crabunhador> I only have the option to log into
iSCSI targets, but I don't know what IP to use, since this is a
local disk
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1806 [11:29:48] <mazzanet> hey all
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1808 [11:29:59] <mazzanet> anyone running testing, exim4 and
mariadb 10?
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1811 [11:31:06] <shtrb> do you have a specific question ?
1812 [11:31:20] <shtrb> or is it a poll
1813 [11:31:41] <mazzanet> latest update seems to have broken a
dep for me
1814 [11:31:57] <mazzanet> Setting up exim4-config (4.88~RC4-2)
...
1815 [11:31:59] <mazzanet> /usr/sbin/exim4: error while loading
shared libraries: libmariadbclient.so.18: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory
1816 [11:32:15] <mazzanet> from what i can tell
libmariadbclient.so.18 isn't actually a thing?
1817 [11:32:39] <missmbob> !debian-next
1818 [11:32:39] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
1819 [11:32:44] <missmbob> mazzanet: ^
1820 [11:32:49] <mazzanet> doh
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1830 [11:38:22] <nohitall> where are boot files defined if one has
not grub installed?
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1832 [11:38:32] <nohitall> trying to figure out why its still
using old kernel
1833 [11:39:22] <nkuttler> nohitall: what do you use instead of
grub?
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1836 [11:39:43] <nohitall> no idea, I didnt set this up, its some
weird minimal setup
1837 [11:39:50] <nohitall> but I can't find any grub
directory/files
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1839 [11:40:00] <nkuttler> well, there are other bootloaders..
which arch is this?
1840 [11:40:03] <nohitall> in /boot are only files of the new
kernel but it still boots in default
1841 [11:40:07] <nohitall> jessie amd64
1842 [11:40:28] <nohitall> what would debian use on a minimal
install without baseutils?
1843 [11:40:42] <nkuttler> busybox?
1844 [11:40:49] <relaxed> mazzanet: install libmariadbclient18
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1846 [11:40:59] <nohitall> hm nop
1847 [11:41:20] <nohitall> gawd I hate the guy who set this system
up, bloody mess
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1849 [11:41:37] <shtrb> under / ?
1850 [11:41:42] <nkuttler> nohitall: ask him
1851 [11:42:11] <nohitall> shouldnt /boot always show running
kernel files?
1852 [11:42:24] <nkuttler> nohitall: no
1853 [11:42:28] <shtrb> look where vmlinuz point at
1854 [11:42:41] <nohitall> nowhere
1855 [11:42:43] <shtrb> that dir will probabaly hold what you are
asking
1856 [11:42:50] <nohitall> there is only the vmlinuz of the new
kernel
1857 [11:43:01] <nkuttler> nohitall: /vmlinuz
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1859 [11:43:40] <nohitall> hmm
1860 [11:43:47] <nohitall> points to the right file
1861 [11:44:15] <shtrb> what abot /initrd.img ?
1862 [11:44:48] <shtrb> and are you sure you are reading the
partition with the bootloader ?
1863 [11:44:53] <nohitall>
replaced-url
1864 [11:44:56] <nohitall> doesnt that look weird?
1865 [11:45:32] <nkuttler> nohitall: what kind of hardware is that
anyway. could have a kernel in the firmware or whatever
1866 [11:45:38] <nohitall> KVM
1867 [11:45:59] <nohitall> maybe the kernel name is just wrong hm
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1869 [11:46:34] <nohitall> hm no paxtest says its loaded still the
vanilla kernel
1870 [11:46:39] <nohitall> not the grsec
1871 [11:47:22] <nohitall> I tried to intall grub2 but it failed,
left me in some endless repeat of "continue without installing
grub?"
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1874 [11:48:07] <nkuttler> you should really ask the guy who built
it
1875 [11:48:40] <nohitall> yea, waiting for him, best to burn the
whole thing and start afresh
1876 [11:49:02] <nohitall> well thx anyway, nice channel compared
to others
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1889 [11:53:22] <nohitall> man but this is weird, I just inatlled
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the bpo
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2084 [13:27:16] <daemon> hey all has anyon managed to install
steam succesfully?
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2093 [13:29:52] <ws2k3> what is wrong here?
replaced-url
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2102 [13:32:23] <petn-randall> ws2k3: I can't see anything
wrong.
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2104 [13:32:36] <petn-randall> !bat
2105 [13:32:36] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
2106 [13:32:39] <pkv> hi
2107 [13:32:56] <ws2k3> petn-randall
replaced-url
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2109 [13:33:08] <pkv> daemon: i dont know archive but i think you
have to "tel" what archive you want
2110 [13:33:18] <pkv> like
replaced-url
2111 [13:33:25] <pkv> in your source.list
2112 [13:33:28] <ws2k3> petn-randall i checked the url and the
folder updates does not exsist anymore so thats why it fails
2113 [13:34:42] <ws2k3> petn-randall i commented out both the
replaced-url
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2116 [13:35:24] <ws2k3> petn-randall so now i only have: deb
replaced-url
2117 [13:35:24] <ws2k3> deb-src
replaced-url
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2161 [13:58:50] <petn-randall> ws2k3: It's only of value to
install new things. squeeze hasn't been supported with security
updates for about 10 months now.
2162 [13:59:28] <petn-randall> ws2k3: That is why I'm
guessing squeeze-updates returns a 404.
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2166 [14:02:13] <ws2k3> petemc thx
2167 [14:02:19] <ws2k3> petn-randall thx (A)
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2169 [14:03:54] <nadley> hi guys I have is there different mirror
of Debian in China. I use one but the InRelease file is expired and
this cause trouble to my deployment script as the RC code is not 0
when it performs an "apt update". The incrimined file is :
replaced-url
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2172 [14:05:05] <abrotman> nadley: debian.org/mirrors/list there
are several
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2175 [14:06:10] <nadley> abrotman: ok thanks gonna llok if I can
use several in my config file
2176 [14:06:50] <nadley> *look
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2200 [14:24:58] <paul_grozav> hello, I have no sound on my debian
system, only HDMI output. Any idea what could be wrong ?
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2202 [14:25:27] <neredsenvy> Is apt-update failing for anyone else
?
2203 [14:25:52] <neredsenvy> None of the mirrors seem to work
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2206 [14:26:16] <neredsenvy>
replaced-url
2207 [14:26:47] <jelly> you have a dns resolving issue, neredsenvy
2208 [14:26:55] <han-solo> bash: apt-update: command not found
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2210 [14:27:25] <neredsenvy> jelly: Ill try google DNS
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2215 [14:29:18] <han-solo> is apt update the same as apt-get
update?
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2218 [14:30:08] <OpenTokix> han-solo: almost, it is also apt-get
upgrade
2219 [14:30:18] <OpenTokix> nevermind
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2221 [14:31:09] <neredsenvy> Hm tried google public DNS same issue
2222 [14:31:12] <paul_grozav>
replaced-url
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2268 [14:52:04] <paul_grozav> does anyone have a clue if there are
any driver problems with intel soundcards on laptops? My debian
can't use it
2269 [14:52:47] <SebastianKutter> Hi. Is there any way to get USB
devices to any remote machine i connect to?
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2285 [14:59:07] <Selveste1> Hey everybody, I have a problem on my
Debian Stretch installation, I'm running bind9.10.4 with DNSSEC
on it, and it suddenly stopped working, I don't think there
have been changed anything in it other than what isc-dhcp changes.
There is no errors of importants and the service startes but just
dont reply me. I think I have tried just about everything now and
still cant get it to work..... I have pasted what I think is
relevant in
2286 [14:59:09] <Selveste1> here,
replaced-url
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2330 [15:19:17] <tehrabbitt> Good Morning :) So I have a question
regarding debian mirrors / how long files stay valid for etc.
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2333 [15:21:02] <tehrabbitt> I have both QA and PROD servers,
running Debian stable. I want to be able to run updates monthly, but
QA and PROD *must* have the same updates applied for obvious
reasons. This said, I built an in-house repository, and it is
syncing to the debian mirrors currently daily. now originally I
tried to have it sync weekly, but it complained that the mirror was
basically "out of date" in terms of upgrades and
woudln't upgrade to either my QA or
2334 [15:21:02] <tehrabbitt> PROD systems.
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2337 [15:21:59] <tehrabbitt> Basically I just want to build a
system that will mirror the debian stable repos, and hold it locally
so that I can ensure when I run apt-get update/upgrade on my QA
servers, and then my PROD servers, they get the same exact patches /
are identical
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2340 [15:22:50] <OpenTokix> tehrabbitt: apt-mirror and
apt-cacher-ng might be something you want to look into.
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2351 [15:27:49] <tehrabbitt> OpenTokix, i'm currently using
apt-mirror. Never heard of apt-cachr-ng
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2353 [15:28:18] <tehrabbitt> OpenTokix, the issue I ran into, was
that the timestamp on the updates apparently expired or something
along those lines, which when I did an apt-get update from the
servers against my internal mirror, it said it was stale, and could
not be used
2354 [15:29:05] <ws2k3> i have a machine with debian squeeze. and
im trying to upgrade it to wheezy. but when i run apt-get
dist-upgrade it just says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove
and 0 not upgraded. what could this be?
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2359 [15:29:53] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, in your apt.sources file, what
do you have specified?
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2361 [15:29:59] <tehrabbitt>
replaced-url
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2363 [15:30:36] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, /etc/apt/sources
2364 [15:30:40] <ws2k3> tehrabbitt
replaced-url
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2367 [15:31:05] <tehrabbitt> Okay, if you look in that file, you
have Squeeze specified.
2368 [15:31:17] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, you need to change those to
"Wheezy"
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2370 [15:31:19] <ws2k3> tehrabbitt yes true
2371 [15:31:25] <ws2k3> tehrabbitt hmm ur sure?
2372 [15:31:35] <tehrabbitt> (this is where aptitude pulls the
version it needs to update to/from)
2373 [15:31:38] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, Yes.
2374 [15:31:56] <themill> ws2k3: what is it you're trying to
achieve again
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2376 [15:32:05] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, if you have only squeeze in
that file, when you do a dist-upgrade, it is determining "What
packages do I need to get from current, to squeeze? None? Okay"
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2378 [15:32:16] <ws2k3> themill squeeze to wheezy
2379 [15:32:31] <themill> ws2k3: and how is apt going to get
packages from wheezy?
2380 [15:32:40] <ws2k3> themill not :D
2381 [15:32:42] <tehrabbitt> themill, his apt sources is set to
squeeze still :P
2382 [15:32:50] <themill> tehrabbitt: I know
2383 [15:33:20] <ws2k3> tehrabbitt so. shall i just change squeeze
to debian in this file? i can also grap the orginal wheezy apt
file(icluding the security repo) and then try to upgrade what do you
recommand?
2384 [15:33:31] <ws2k3> squeeze to wheezy*
2385 [15:33:42] <themill> ws2k3: you should read the release notes
2386 [15:33:49] <tehrabbitt> themill++
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2388 [15:34:12] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, release notes often tell you
if there are certain packages that need to be updated or such prior
to a dist-upgrade
2389 [15:34:14] <themill> [Tuesday 07 May 2013] [00:25:59]
<themill> ws2k3: as usual, you should read through the release
notes
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2391 [15:34:20] <themill> thought that was familiar.
2392 [15:34:29] <tehrabbitt> themill, lol.
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2405 [15:37:06] <atrapado_> Hi. Whichever program generates my
/etc/resolv.conf appends %wlan0 to the IP address of the nameserver
so several programs do not work (host dig qemu ...). How to avoid
this?
2406 [15:37:28] <ws2k3> so after i replaced the sources i can just
do apt-get dist-upgrade?
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2408 [15:38:04] <themill> ws2k3: you should read the release notes
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2411 [15:40:08] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, srsly listen to themill. they
are trying to save you headaches and heartache :)
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2413 [15:40:23] <tehrabbitt> read through the release notes
carefully, make sure to follow step by step, don't skim it!
2414 [15:40:25] <RikuKawai> how come sometimes I get asked for the
passphrase for my SSH keys again?
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2418 [15:40:51] <RikuKawai> I'll do ssh-add, and it will work
for a while, then I'll boot up and it will ask for the
passphrase again
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2420 [15:40:58] <atrapado_> like this: $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
-> nameserver fe80::(...)%wlan0
2421 [15:41:24] <themill> atrapado_: does nothing in that file
indicate what is generating it?
2422 [15:41:51] <atrapado_> themill, no, it only has a line with
the nameserver
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2424 [15:42:26] <RikuKawai> mine says generated by NetworkManager
2425 [15:42:33] <themill> atrapado_: how do you configure the rest
of your network? (n-m? systemd-networkd? dhcp?
/etc/network/interfaces? wicd?)
2426 [15:44:03] <atrapado_> it is dhcp, but I do not know whow
configures it, maybe network manager ?
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2439 [15:46:12] <atrapado_> themill, it may be NetworkManager, as
I configure the wifi there.
2440 [15:46:26] <ws2k3> how can i determine if my system has a
self/custom compiled kernel? machine is debian squeeze. when i run
uname -a it shows me Linux lb1 2.6.32 #1 SMP Fri Jan 4 21:17:44 CET
2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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2448 [15:48:53] <colo-work> ws2k3, I'm pretty certain
that's squeeze actual. `debsums linux-image-amd64` might help.
or `dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-*`
2449 [15:50:09] <biehoh> it looks like apt is ignoring my pinning
replaced-url
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2451 [15:51:16] <ws2k3> colo-work debsums: package
linux-image-amd64 is not installed linux-image-2.6.32:
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32 linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64:
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 is the output of dpkg -S
/boot/vmlinuz-*
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2460 [15:53:41] <hron84> Hi! I trying to re-create a binary deb
package without source (i have no access to the source package, this
is a legacy, discontinued software) with fixed dependencies for
Ubuntu Yakkety. However, I faced with error when trying to run
dpkg-buildpackage against these configs:
replaced-url
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2463 [15:54:24] <_ph33r> ##security
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2465 [15:54:48] <vimpulse> hron84: Hi! What version of Debian are
you running?
2466 [15:54:56] <hron84> Ubuntu 16.04
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2468 [15:55:05] * vimpulse scratches his head
2469 [15:55:09] <hron84> but I think the os is irrelevant.
2470 [15:55:26] <hron84> it's a dpkg issue independent from
difference between ubuntu and debian.
2471 [15:55:51] <hron84> i know i made mistakes in the control
file but i dunno what
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2478 [15:58:00] <vimpulse> hron84: I agree that dpkg is a project
maintained in Debian. But I wonder whether or not your question is
on-topic here.
2479 [15:58:00] <vimpulse> hron84: Who wrote the software?
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2482 [15:58:47] <hron84> vimpulse: IBM. But I cannot ask them to
update the package, because it's a discontinued product they
don't support it, even they have absolute no resource to
maintain it.
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2485 [15:59:17] <vimpulse> hron84: May I ask?: What's the
name of the IBM product?
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2487 [15:59:33] <hron84> vimpulse: look into the link ;-)
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2491 [16:01:45] <hron84> vimpulse: but regardless the software, I
have to solve this issue. Do you have any idea why dpkg-buildpackage
says this?
2492 [16:02:08] <hron84> I would rather not chat about WHY I want
to solve this issue, I want to chat about HOW. If it is possible.
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2496 [16:02:57] <nkuttler> hron84: um, without source, how would
your package work with newer libs that had api changes
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2498 [16:03:32] <hron84> nkuttler: this package is works on my
machine (it's ubuntu xenial) and i'm pretty sure it will
work with yakkety too.
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2500 [16:03:57] <nkuttler> hron84: well don't guess, install
it first
2501 [16:04:18] <vimpulse> hron84: What version of IBM Lotus Notes
are you packaging?
2502 [16:04:19] <hron84> nkuttler: i want it, but i can't. I
wanna build the package for install this stuff.
2503 [16:04:26] <hron84> 9.0.1
2504 [16:04:27] <nkuttler> hron84: dpkg --force-help
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2506 [16:04:53] <nkuttler> anyway, you should be in the ubuntu
channel
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2508 [16:05:07] <hron84> nkuttler: you could answer the question
there too.
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2510 [16:05:12] <hron84> I'm online there.
2511 [16:05:15] <nkuttler> hron84: i don't use ubuntu
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2513 [16:05:27] <hron84> nkuttler: in this case, thanks for your
great assistance.
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2519 [16:06:05] <hron84> vimpulse: what do you thinking about? Do
you have an idea?
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2521 [16:06:54] <vimpulse> nkuttler: #ubuntu is more geared to
end-user support, not to packaging help.
2522 [16:06:54] <vimpulse> hron84: /msg alis list *ubuntu* -min 30
2523 [16:06:54] <vimpulse> hron84: maybe #ubuntu-app-devel is the
right channel for you?
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2525 [16:07:32] <DrBunsen> Hello, can anyone tell my what I am
doing wrong? I got a bash script to change my background wallpaper
with a random one(works) but when I try to make a cronjob to do it
automatically, it doesn't work. This is my cron line: 0 * * * *
/bin/sh /home/bunsen/wallpaper.sh &
2526 [16:07:38] <DrBunsen> That should work right?
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2529 [16:07:59] <zebulon1st> hi! I'd like to find where are
USC ports settings : I have a USB RTL8187 wifi card plugged in my
laptop, but I can't connect to any box. Maybe because USB ports
are automatically deactivated after a while (as in windows) !? How
to know ? how to solve ?
2530 [16:07:59] <hron84> vimpulse: maybe. But before i go there...
do you have any idea what the error message means? Regardless if it
is an ubuntu or a debian?
2531 [16:08:08] <hron84> vimpulse: let assume it caused on a
Debian 8.
2532 [16:08:10] <zebulon1st> *USC->USB
2533 [16:08:20] <vimpulse> hron84: did you try ( dpkg --force-help
) yet?
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2535 [16:08:30] <nkuttler> vimpulse: i'm sure #ubuntu knows
where to get help with packaging..
2536 [16:08:43] <th0r> DrBunsen, try putting the whole command in
quotes
2537 [16:08:55] <hron84> vimpulse: i did, but i would rather not
go on this way. I wanna distribute this package automatically and
automatical tools cannot use --force-depends
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2540 [16:09:09] <nkuttler> DrBunsen: set the DISPLAY
2541 [16:09:26] <vimpulse> nkuttler: #ubuntu is probably one of
the busiest channels on Freenode. Someone there might know, or
hron84's message might get lost in the din.
2542 [16:09:51] <DrBunsen> th0r: my other cronjobs don't
require that? and do you mean like"0 * * * * /bin/sh
/home/koen/wallpaper.sh &" ?
2543 [16:09:55] <vimpulse> hron84: But, if #ubuntu-app-devel is no
help, #ubuntu-devel surely can direct you to the correct channel
though.
2544 [16:10:01] <DrBunsen> nkuttler: what do you mena?
2545 [16:10:03] <DrBunsen> mean*
2546 [16:10:28] <nkuttler> DrBunsen: cron runs outside of the x
server
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2548 [16:10:48] <hron84> vimpulse: i cross-posted my question to
all of these channels. I hope they'll help. Thanks for your
assistance.
2549 [16:11:06] <nkuttler> DrBunsen: try DISPLAY=:0 cmd, or set it
in your script
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2551 [16:11:12] <vimpulse> hron84: including to #ubuntu-devel?
without warning them that you crossposted? ugh.
2552 [16:11:46] <vimpulse> hron84: I am glad I was able to point
you elsewhere, and am sad about your crossposting.
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2554 [16:12:04] <hron84> vimpulse: i hate this limitation of IRC
that I cannot just crosslink messages
2555 [16:12:22] <hron84> vimpulse: and i don't know irc
enough to how to do this more effectively.
2556 [16:12:22] <nkuttler> and irc users hate crossposters
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2561 [16:12:43] <hron84> then they should be online on all
affected channel.
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2564 [16:13:03] <nkuttler> let's talk about debian
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2566 [16:13:17] <th0r> DrBunsen, nkuttler is right. looked up my
script for doing that...it says */10 * * * * DISPLAY=:0.0
/usr/bin/xfdesktop --reload
2567 [16:13:58] <hron84> nkuttler: btw, on debian (debian 8) do
you have any idea what "binary build with no binary artifacts
found" means? I cannot find a resource (nor debian nor ubuntu
one) to figure out what is the exact problem.
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2569 [16:14:39] <vimpulse> hron84: When I feel that I really must
crosspost on IRC, I like to tell each channel that the message is a
crosspost.
2570 [16:14:40] <vimpulse> hron84: But it may be better to avoid
crossposting at all, if at all possible. If you earn others'
goodwill, you may get more answers faster.
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2572 [16:14:50] <DrBunsen> th0r: you got 0.0? but I added
display=:0 to the bash script, now to set an early wallpaper change
moment
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2577 [16:15:06] <nkuttler> DrBunsen: DISPLAY, not display
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2581 [16:15:23] <DrBunsen> nkuttler: I copy pasted it, so no
worries ;)
2582 [16:15:39] <hron84> vimpulse: okay, but what is the
alternative of crossposting? I need the soluton in relative short
time, i have no time for sitting on this problem for months.
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2584 [16:15:49] <th0r> DrBunsen, that is what my note says. had it
running years ago, not using it now.
2585 [16:16:17] <vimpulse> hron84: Dunno. IRC doesn't take
months. Have patience.
2586 [16:16:17] <vimpulse> hron84: Or you can pay me $50/hour to
SSH in and take a look, if you like.
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2588 [16:17:10] <hron84> vimpulse: I would but I cannot. If we go
on this way, it will take really months to get a financial decision
from the company i work for.
2589 [16:17:13] <vimpulse> DrBunsen: Press Ctrl+Alt+F1, and run
your Bash script from there. See if it works.
2590 [16:17:13] <vimpulse> DrBunsen: Important tip! Remember that
you must press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get out of the virtual console. If you
forget that key combination, you may be stuck there all day.
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2593 [16:17:51] <vimpulse> hron84: your company takes months to
decide whether or not to hire a consultant for a small amount of
work?
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2595 [16:18:19] <hron84> vimpulse: but regardless on this, i agree
they're helping in their free time, but... how can i say it on
PC way... not all channels include all users from all other
channels. So, if somoene sits on only one channel (in this case on
#ubuntu-devel or #debian) what is te way for share same questions
between channels without crossposting?
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2599 [16:18:42] <nkuttler> !ot
2600 [16:18:42] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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2602 [16:19:05] <DrBunsen> th0r. nkuttler * * * * * DISPLAY=:0.0
/home/koen/wallpaper.sh & did the trick, thanks
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2606 [16:19:48] <th0r> DrBunsen, took me a while to get it
right...hence the archived note
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2609 [16:20:10] <Downer> what happened to debian testing, aptitude
wants to upgrade 1/3 of my installed packages (almost 500) :\
2610 [16:20:10] <hron84> vimpulse: first, i will get an answer
"you should do it", and it will take a week to force them
to solve. But... we went too far on this way. It is a question about
dpkg. Just a question. I will not ask my boss to hire a consultant
just because some Debian people hate Ubuntu people. This would be
make me ridiculous.
2611 [16:20:26] <nkuttler> Downer: sounds pretty normal, also /msg
dpkg debian-next
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2614 [16:20:58] <nkuttler> hron84: please take it to -offtopic, or
somewhere else
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2616 [16:21:05] <DrBunsen> th0r: I am sure to write this down as
well
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2621 [16:21:50] <vimpulse> Downer: Why are you using Debian
Testing at all? Just curious.
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2624 [16:22:30] <Downer> vimpulse: i needed it (for some reason)
when i built the server years ago...
2625 [16:22:38] <nkuttler> server? eh..
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2627 [16:22:54] <nkuttler> Downer: if that was years ago your
testing became stable somewhen..
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2629 [16:22:57] <greycat> Testing from "years ago" would
probably be, like, wheezy or jessie now. Yes?
2630 [16:23:00] <vimpulse> Downer: You can upgrade from an older
Debian Testing to a newer Debian Stable.
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2636 [16:23:26] <vimpulse> nkuttler: if sources.list says
"testing" then I think you may stay on testing forever.
2637 [16:23:31] <greycat> As long as you never pulled any new
"testing" packages after the jessie freeze.
2638 [16:23:34] <nkuttler> vimpulse: obviously
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2641 [16:24:03] <Downer> i have "testing" all over my
sources.list :)
2642 [16:24:23] <greycat> That's a really bad idea on a
server.
2643 [16:24:24] <vimpulse> Downer: If you need one or two packages
from testing, you can get them from the backports repository, or you
can backport them yourself. That way you never have to upgrade your
server to run a full Debian Testing system.
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2645 [16:25:06] <vimpulse> hron84: I am in #debian-offtopic now.
2646 [16:25:24] <Downer> vimpulse: yeah, but as i said, when i
installed it i needed too many packages from testing (and
dependencies and dependencies on the dependencies) so i just went
full on testing
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2648 [16:25:53] <jhutchins> I once inherited a server that had
packages from five different releases on it.
2649 [16:25:59] <vimpulse> Downer: You still probably
shouldn't have used the word "testing" in your
sources.list file. You can upgrade to testing without using that
word.
2650 [16:26:02] <greycat> If testing was "will be
jessie" at the time, then you should have used
"jessie" in your sources.list so you would converge on
jessie as it became stable, insetad of being in perpetual surprise
land.
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2652 [16:26:31] <vimpulse> Downer: You can still fix your
sources.list so that you'll move to stable when it's
ready. Please do so now, then tell us when you're done!
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2654 [16:26:42] <Downer> it was etch or lenny...
2655 [16:27:24] <Downer> greycat: i am a gentoo user. surprise
land is where i thrive :D
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2658 [16:27:57] * greycat still hasn't upgraded his OpenVZ VPS past
wheezy
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2660 [16:28:05] <zebulon1st> where are the USB ports settings
file(s) : I have to remove the auto-sleep option to one of them.
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2664 [16:29:06] <vimpulse> zebulon1st: If you didn't get an
answer to your real question, please ask it again. Please don't
ask your auto-sleep question based on a guess at what's wrong.
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2666 [16:29:32] <n4dir> obviously it is not where you thrive,
Downer, else you wouldn't have asked about it here.
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2668 [16:29:52] <sobczyk> hello, I've hit a debootstrap bug,
where it installs "some" version of packages (not the
latest), and fails (because dpkg expects latest), is it desired
behaviour
2669 [16:29:57] <Downer> n4dir: i was just curious, never seen it
do that before.
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2671 [16:30:38] <vimpulse> Downer: If you do silly things such as
write "testing" in your sources.list, then please be
responsible and fix it. That way you can prevent wasting our time
unnecessarily in future.
2672 [16:30:38] <vimpulse> Downer: Once you've fixed it, then
please let us know. :)
2673 [16:30:39] <Downer> n4dir: asking about things you dont
understand is the way to learn.
2674 [16:31:01] <Downer> vimpulse: am i wasting your time?
2675 [16:31:01] <vimpulse> zebulon1st: If you don't get an
answer, re-ask elsewhere. For example, you could ask in
linux or at < ##replaced-url
2676 [16:31:04] <n4dir> And mainly on a server
2677 [16:31:07] <vimpulse> Downer: Indirectly, perhaps.
2678 [16:31:14] <Downer> wow ok.
2679 [16:31:25] <Downer> sorry to have bothered you
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2681 [16:31:30] <Downer> :\
2682 [16:31:39] <vimpulse> Downer: "Sorry" is worth
nothing if you refuse to make the config change.
2683 [16:31:49] <Roland-> Hi, is there a way to get a newer
qemu-kvm package?
2684 [16:31:58] <vimpulse> Downer: And, if you make the config
change, "Sorry" is perhaps unnecessary.
2685 [16:32:05] <vimpulse> Roland-: Hi! Why?
2686 [16:32:15] <greycat> Newer than what? Why?
2687 [16:32:33] <Roland-> I am having some serious issues with
guests vms, and I don't have those issues on centos , same
hardware and guests
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2689 [16:32:46] <greycat> And those problems are...?
2690 [16:32:54] <vimpulse> Roland-: Also: What's the host OS?
What's the guest OS?
2691 [16:33:09] <vimpulse> Roland-: If you ask a too-short
question (as you did), you just create extra typing work for us. :)
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2693 [16:34:31] <Roland-> host os is debian jessie, guest is
server 2012 r2
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2695 [16:34:39] <Roland-> the server hangs from time to time
2696 [16:34:49] <Roland-> (guest) no errors just hangs.
2697 [16:35:14] <Roland-> so I would like to try a different qemu
version since the kernel and qemu are the only things that differ
between hosts
2698 [16:35:31] <vimpulse> /me likes asking basic questions.
2699 [16:35:31] <vimpulse> Roland-: Why not run Windows Server on
a bare-metal box?
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2703 [16:35:48] <Roland-> vimpulse ok nevermind
2704 [16:35:51] <n4dir> Roland-: in jessie backports is a newer
version, same as in testing, it seems:
replaced-url
2705 [16:35:56] <Roland-> I have no idea what kind of question is
that.
2706 [16:36:02] <greycat> ,v qemu-kvm
2707 [16:36:03] <judd> Package: qemu-kvm on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u12; wheezy-security: 1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u18;
wheezy-backports: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u5a~bpo70+1; jessie-security:
1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u6; jessie: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u6;
jessie-backports: 1:2.7+dfsg-3~bpo8+2; sid: 1:2.7+dfsg-3+b1;
stretch: 1:2.7+dfsg-3+b1
2708 [16:36:15] <vimpulse> Roland-: It's pretty basic. But
I'm curious to know the answer anyway.
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2710 [16:36:22] <greycat> So yes, you can try the jessie-backports
version, but "throwing larger numbers at it" rarely solves
problems.
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2715 [16:37:37] <Roland-> vimpulse ok: 1. the host has 64G of ram
and that guest won't need as much 2. because we are in 2016 3.
so we can migrate that guest within the hosts. 3 etc
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2718 [16:39:09] <jelly> Downer: currently installed versions of
key packages like dpkg libc6 base-files will point to the release
closest to whatever your system is running
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2721 [16:40:17] <jelly> Downer: keeping an alias like
"stable" or "testing in sources is a horrible idea.
It was sadly a default for many years, fixed around Debian 6 or so
2722 [16:40:33] <Roland-> ah yes and another reason vimpulse, rack
space is expensive.
2723 [16:40:36] <vimpulse> Roland-: Fair.
2724 [16:40:36] <vimpulse> Roland-: Who knows? Maybe you can
indeed fix your problem by switching packages around. Have you ever
tried virtualbox? It's been in Debian for years now.
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2726 [16:40:55] <Downer> jelly: yeah, i understand. this server is
from that time
2727 [16:41:07] <Roland-> I would love to use virtualbox but this
is a server and requires some features that are not available
2728 [16:41:18] <vimpulse> Roland-: Which?
2729 [16:41:30] <Downer> jelly: i'll put stretch in there
instead and it will be sorted in a year or so :)
2730 [16:41:44] <vimpulse> Downer: OK, let us know once
you've done so!
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2732 [16:42:08] <vimpulse> Downer: (I don't mean let us know
once a year has passed. Instead, I mean let us know once the config
change is done.)
2733 [16:42:18] <jelly> Downer: "stretch" is not a good
idea if your installation is closer to squeeze or wheezy or jessie
2734 [16:42:58] <jelly> Downer: pastebin the output of, say,
"dpkg -l dpkg apt base-files libc6 libssl\*"
2735 [16:43:16] <vimpulse> hron84: Come join me in
#debian-offtopic perhaps?
2736 [16:43:19] <Roland-> live migration with fencing, failover,
etc
2737 [16:43:28] <vimpulse> Roland-: Fair.
2738 [16:43:41] <Downer> ii apt 1.3.1 amd64 commandline package
manager
2739 [16:43:44] <Downer> ii base-files 9.6 amd64 Debian base
system miscellaneous files
2740 [16:43:47] <Downer> ii dpkg 1.18.10 amd64 Debian package
management system
2741 [16:43:50] <Roland-> I will see if newer qemu does something
2742 [16:43:50] <Downer> ii libc6:amd64 2.24-5 amd64 GNU C
Library: Shared libraries
2743 [16:43:53] <Downer> un libssl <none> <none> (no
description available)
2744 [16:43:56] <Downer> ii libssl-dev:amd64 1.0.2j-1 amd64 Secure
Sockets Layer toolkit - development files
2745 [16:43:59] <Downer> ii libssl-doc 1.0.2j-1 all Secure Sockets
Layer toolkit - development documentation
2746 [16:44:00] <teraflops> Downer: stop
2747 [16:44:02] <Downer> rc libssl0.9.8 0.9.8o-7 amd64 SSL shared
libraries
2748 [16:44:05] <Downer> un libssl096-dev <none>
<none> (no description available)
2749 [16:44:08] <Downer> ii libssl1.0.0:amd64 1.0.2d-1 amd64
Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared libraries
2750 [16:44:11] <teraflops> !kick Downer
2751 [16:44:11] * dpkg kicks Downer in the ass.
2752 [16:44:11] <Downer> ii libssl1.0.2:amd64 1.0.2j-1 amd64
Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared libraries
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2754 [16:44:20] <Downer> whops :)
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2756 [16:44:36] <teraflops> use
replaced-url
2757 [16:44:50] <Downer> teraflops: yeah, sorry about that.
2758 [16:44:52] <greycat> I think we have enough info that he
doesn't need to repeat it again on paste.debian.net.
2759 [16:44:53] <teraflops> np
2760 [16:44:58] <teraflops> hehe
2761 [16:45:13] <greycat> "stretch" is the best fit for
him.
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2763 [16:45:14] <jelly> that's ruined enogh to be called
stretch
2764 [16:45:23] <n4dir> Roland-: you might wanna thing about what
greycat said (So yes, you can try the jessie-backports version, but
"throwing larger numbers at it" rarely solves problems.)
2765 [16:45:24] <Downer> :)
2766 [16:45:34] <Downer> thanks guys
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2770 [16:46:39] <jelly> the fact there used to be a libssl0.9.8
>= 0.9.8o-5~ installed means the system used "testing"
back when _wheezy_ was testing
2771 [16:46:45] <Roland-> well if it's not that then
it's very hard for me to troubleshoot.
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2773 [16:47:30] <Downer> jelly: hah, well yeah. its been a while
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2782 [16:49:16] <n4dir> Roland-: if it isn't a problem which
is known to exist in one version and not in the other ... i guess
you got my point. (Not saying i wouldn't try it myself)
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2786 [16:51:30] <hron84> vimpulse: if you wanna talk about why i
don't hire an accountant for a single question, not. If you
have a solution for my problem, yes.
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2789 [16:53:02] <vimpulse> hron84: All I say is, you are invited
there.
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2801 [16:57:53] <Roland-> well I have two hosts serving the same
machine, one centos and one debian, centos runs fine, debian hangs.
same exact servers/specs (dell r330)
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2805 [16:59:38] <petemc> Roland-: serving what? hanging how?
2806 [16:59:53] <greycat> 10:34 Roland-> host os is debian
jessie, guest is server 2012 r2
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2810 [17:01:24] <Roland-> simply hangs, and I have to virsh reset
it
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2834 [17:09:25] <vimpulse> hron84: Please ask me for permission
before private messaging!
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2868 [17:19:36] <exaways> Hello. I am still having troubles
getting debian working. The installation worked fine except for the
bootloader. The installer gave me no clues why it failed to install
grub. - I can boot debian live. - I would like to install grub
manually but in the bootsequence _after_ refind. Of course I
googled. Found to much info. confused I am now.
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2892 [17:32:07] <exaways> So following this:
2893 [17:32:07] <exaways>
replaced-url
2894 [17:32:07] <exaways> I should use that:
2895 [17:32:07] <exaways>
replaced-url
2896 [17:32:07] <exaways> Is this correct?
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2937 [17:47:20] <dm_comp> So I on the packages page of debian and
I see "dep: libacl1 (>= 2.2.51-8) [not hurd-i386,
kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386]". not sure the meaning of
"not hurd-i386"
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2943 [17:47:53] <greycat> My first guess: "not" applies
to the entire list, not just the first item in the list.
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2948 [17:48:33] <dm_comp> humm
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2962 [17:54:50] <dm_comp> can you elaborate, I'm still
confused on what the [...] is for? like [not alpha, hurd-i386]
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2964 [17:56:08] <dm_comp> nevermind, I see :)
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2986 [18:08:14] <rafalcpp> anyone here has access to strong
workstation, and could run an iperf localhost test for me? iperf -V
-s -m and iperf -V -c ::1 -m -l 1000
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2989 [18:08:48] <rafalcpp> I'm trying to confirm, is there
really a limit of ~ 0.5 Gbps even on localhost, on sending from
userspace program data in 1K packets
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3077 [18:40:54] <eumel> hey
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3089 [18:46:38] <squigz> missmbob: hey, just figured I'd fill
you in on what happened: installed jessie, initially my VGA display
wasn't working again, however after installing
firmware-linux-nonfree, it started working. Not sure what happened
before, I guess I must've missed that package... :P Thanks for
all your help
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3093 [18:47:20] <squigz> I hope this driver will play nicely with
my games, I don't want to have to switch to fglrx and break
everything again
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3201 [19:36:34] <gebruiker> is there an easy way to install XAMPP
on debian jessie using apt-get?
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3215 [19:39:57] <somiaj> gebruiker: I don't know what XAMPP
is and not getting any results with apt-cache search xampp. If a
package is not provided by the debian repo, it will take some work
as you will have to either compile it yourself or find a thrid party
repo, which usually are not designed for debian so be careful.
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3219 [19:41:55] <gebruiker> somiaj:
replaced-url
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3222 [19:42:37] <greycat> If it's an apache module, you
probably need to install some apache -dev package in order to build
it.
3223 [19:42:56] <somiaj> it is some wrapper, just isntall apache +
php + mariadb (the perl will be in the base)
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3225 [19:43:21] <somiaj> debian provides all the packages listed,
it just provide them in some unified installer.
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3230 [19:45:15] <somiaj> I personally wouldn't install what
you linked due to security concerns. Use the packages provided by
debian, you may just have to do a little extra work to integrate
them into your server.
3231 [19:46:08] <greycat> oh, there's a factoid
3232 [19:46:09] <greycat> !xampp
3233 [19:46:09] <dpkg> XAMPP for Linux (formerly LAMPP) is a way
of installing lots of software that is already packaged for Debian.
Don't use XAMPP, instead use aptitude install apache2 php5
libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql mysql-server gettext perl
libapache2-mod-perl2 sqlite webalizer mcrypt expat proftpd libpng3
libjpeg62 ... actually, just ask me about <search>.
3234 [19:46:13] <gebruiker> yeah that makes sense
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3236 [19:46:40] <somiaj> seems that factoid is a little otudated,
you can choose to use mysql or mariadb in debian.
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3302 [20:09:12] <Kobaz> hey... how would i install hplip without
also bringing in systemd ?
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3316 [20:13:46] <jelly> Kobaz: it shouldn't bring in systemd
at all, if you have sysvinit in place it ought to pick systemd-shim
instead
3317 [20:13:53] <jelly> !bat
3318 [20:13:54] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
3319 [20:14:15] <jelly> Kobaz: pastebin the whole output of
apt-get -s install hplip
3320 [20:14:52] <Kobaz> apt-get install hplip The following extra
packages will be installed: libpam-systemd libpolkit-agent-1-0
libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libsystemd0 policykit-1
printer-driver-postscript-hp systemd
3321 [20:14:53] <Kobaz> k
3322 [20:14:53] <jelly> Kobaz: your OS is debian 8 (jessie),
right?
3323 [20:14:57] <Kobaz> jessie
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3326 [20:15:24] <greycat> What procedure did you use to opt out of
systemd?
3327 [20:15:34] <Kobaz> apt-get install sysvinit
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3329 [20:15:38] <Kobaz> and apt-get remove all the systemd* stuff
3330 [20:15:47] <greycat> That's not how you do it.
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3332 [20:15:56] <greycat> !jessie sysvinit
3333 [20:15:57] <dpkg> To use an init system other than systemd in
jessie, install the systemd-shim package (for logind) and remove the
systemd-sysv package: aptitude install systemd-shim sysvinit-core
systemd-sysv-. To stick with sysvinit for wheezy->jessie
upgrades, follow the pinning advice in the release notes:
replaced-url
3334 [20:15:59] <Kobaz>
replaced-url
3335 [20:16:42] <jelly> that's not the complete ouput
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3337 [20:17:02] <Kobaz> okay so the shim is what i want
3338 [20:17:04] <Kobaz> okay that works
3339 [20:17:17] <Kobaz> yay, i can print again
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3479 [21:20:06] <gebruiker> How do I reconfigure fstab the debian
way? - During install i selected noatime, but I do not prefer this
mode, so I removed it from /etc/fstab. After a reboot I see that
noatime is not used anymore, through mount | grep sda. However, i
remember that the option default used to be in there too from other
times when I installed debian jessie - what is going on here?
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3485 [21:21:44] <greycat> Just edit the file.
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3531 [21:39:46] <Zambezi> I know it's Sid but I don't
have Xorg working. Console only. Keyboard and mouse stopped working
after last full-upgrade. Anyone have an idea how to solve?
3532 [21:40:24] <gebruiker> tried dpkg-reconfigure ?
3533 [21:41:23] <Zambezi> gebruiker: That's what I tried to
find. Thought it was something with xorg. Forgot to start Irssi in
screen. Brb.
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3537 [21:43:18] <gebruiker> dpkg -l | grep xorg to check if all is
installed, then try dpkg-reconfigure xorg
3538 [21:43:18] <dpkg> ii | grep xorg to check if all is
installed, then try dpkg-reconfigure xorg 2.5-1.1 gebruiker's
private warez collection
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3546 [21:46:56] <Zambezi> gebruiker: dkpg-reconfigure and then?
Cause I need to specify it more. I really need this up and running
asap.
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3548 [21:47:35] <gebruiker> dpkg-reconfigure xorg
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3554 [21:49:21] <Zambezi> gebruiker: Didn't help. "
3555 [21:49:40] <gebruiker> dpkg -l | grep xorg
3556 [21:49:40] <dpkg> ii | grep xorg 2.5-1.1 gebruiker's
private warez collection
3557 [21:49:47] <gebruiker> does that show it is installed?
3558 [21:50:02] <scripted_p0ison> no
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3561 [21:50:21] <scripted_p0ison> warez?
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3563 [21:51:19] <Zambezi> gebruiker: Yes. But no output. I have
xserver-xorg installed. Last time I solved this by uninstall
everything with nvida, nouveau etc.
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3567 [21:51:59] <gebruiker> Zambezi: what errors do you find in
/var/log - there should be a file with Xorg* something there
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3572 [21:54:23] <jim> hi... I'm trying to install debian on a
kvm/qemu guest on a machine with an i5.... the issue is storage, and
I'm trying to use virt-manager to set up a vg that the
installer would pick up... or does that have to be done
differently?is there a particular driver I need?
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3581 [21:55:52] <Zambezi> gebruiker: It seems Nvidia can't
find any screens. I'm purging everything with Nvidia now. See
if that helps using Nouveau as a quick fix.
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3586 [21:56:54] <Zambezi> gebruiker: I'll be back tomorrow.
Need to reboot.
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3590 [21:57:47] <gebruiker> Zambezi: try stopping any grapical
login manager. Followed by: cd /etc/X11/ ; Xorg -configure
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3593 [21:57:58] <gebruiker> ( if your suggestion does not work )
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3629 [22:14:54] <converge> I have the default mysql in jessie
(5.5.53). but I need 5.6 or newer, whats the best way to upgrade ?
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3634 [22:15:41] <gebruiker> converge: see if the version you are
looking for is available in backports
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3638 [22:16:17] <gebruiker> dpkg tell converge about backports
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3640 [22:16:31] <gebruiker> !backports mysql
3641 [22:16:59] <Rortech> hey guys had a question, debian KDE says
no bluetooth adapter found but all the other distros let me use
bluetooth
3642 [22:17:33] <greycat> ,v mysql-server-5.6
3643 [22:17:34] <judd> Package: mysql-server-5.6 on amd64 --
jessie-backports: 5.6.30-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 5.6.30-1; sid: 5.6.30-1
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3648 [22:18:26] <Rortech> Debian so far has been the best but this
bluetooth problem bites the big one
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3650 [22:19:38] <converge> gebruiker, greycat, thanks!
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3653 [22:21:03] <gebruiker> Rortech: have you installed the
bluetooth package and is it started ? What messages can you find in
dmesg or in other appropiate logs in /var/log ?
3654 [22:21:29] <gebruiker> also is bluedevil installed?
3655 [22:21:31] <Rortech> I installed the Bluedevil package
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3657 [22:21:56] <Rortech> I have not checked logs yet but when I
turn on pc bluetooth patch fails
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3659 [22:22:19] <Rortech> Have not restarted since Bluedevil
though
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3662 [22:22:46] <gebruiker> Rortech: wiki.debian says X-window
restart is required for paring pop-up
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3664 [22:23:15] <Rortech> oh ok... will restart, silly me I should
have done that in the first place... thanks
3665 [22:23:32] <Rortech> lol will relog to let ya know
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3670 [22:24:22] <DammitJim> Man, I don't even know where to
ask this question... someone changed their last name in my company,
so we changed his name in AD
3671 [22:24:48] <DammitJim> I have a file server running Debian
with Samba, winbind, pam, etc to join the domain
3672 [22:25:07] <DammitJim> for some reason, I can't mount a
samba share from this server
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3676 [22:25:23] <DammitJim> when I look at permissions for the
folder, it shows the old userid and not the new one
3677 [22:25:39] <DammitJim> how do I update whatever database
there is to reflect the changes and being able to mount it?
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3684 [22:27:43] <Rortech> nope says no adapters found... when
restarting it says Bluetooth: failed to load patchfile
3685 [22:28:01] <greycat> If you're looking at the directory
with ls -l then you need to change the account's name in
/etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and possibly /etc/group
3686 [22:28:13] <greycat> Or whatever you use in place of those
things.
3687 [22:29:19] <DammitJim> greycat, this user is in AD, not in
passwd or group
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3689 [22:30:00] <greycat> Sounds like voodoo.
3690 [22:30:11] <greycat> What *does* ls -ld show on the
directory?
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3693 [22:31:24] <gebruiker> Rortech: what does "hcitool
dev" say?
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3695 [22:31:39] <DammitJim> drwxrwx---+ 11 kz domain users 4096
Nov 21 13:40 .
3696 [22:31:55] <greycat> ETOOMANYFIELDS
3697 [22:32:11] <Rortech> nothing
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3699 [22:32:24] <Rortech> Devices:
3700 [22:32:45] <greycat> If your Active Directory username has a
SPACE in it, then I don't even know what.
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3702 [22:33:21] <gebruiker> Rortech: i am going trhough
replaced-url
3703 [22:33:40] <DammitJim> the interesting thing (if you think
it's interesting) is that wbinfi -i zk returns her old username
info:
3704 [22:33:58] <Rortech> I have not but I will spend some time on
there.. thanks for the link
3705 [22:34:02] <DammitJim>
ks:*:17642:10513::/home/DOMAIN/ks:/bin/bash
3706 [22:34:31] <Rortech> if all else fails it's no big deal
this is the first distro that works flawlessly for me
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3708 [22:34:45] <Rortech> well off to do some reading
3709 [22:34:55] <gebruiker> Rortech: good luck
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3718 [22:37:01] <gebruiker> Rortech: you have a point of lift off,
the device is not recognized. Start by check with lsmod has the
right modules loaded - also systemctl to enable and start bluetooth
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3720 [22:37:33] <Rortech> yup daemon is running
3721 [22:37:40] <Rortech> im reading up now
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3734 [22:43:57] <Rortech> My bluetooth dev must not have been
properly installed but it's all good don't want to deal
with it. I have speakers ;)
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3739 [22:46:17] <Rortech> Finally have a good distro that works
properly sound bar with movies is least of my worries lol
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3760 [22:53:38] <unborn> Rortech: you mean your speakers wont pair
or something?
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3762 [22:54:12] <unborn> or is it pair okay but wont connect to
it?
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3768 [22:56:32] <Rortech> no I only use blutooth so I can watch
movies using soundbar... you know movie theatre effect. The
bluetooth settings say that there are no bluetooth adapters and
using the terminal I'm not finding a bluetooth device
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3770 [22:57:03] <Rortech> I can still use my laptop speakers so
it's no big deal at all...
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3772 [22:57:33] <Rortech> I guess what I'm saying is I can
not even turn on bluetooth because it's not finding a device
3773 [22:57:48] <unborn> ou i see.. on my dell laptop I had to
enable bluetooth in bios
3774 [22:58:10] <Rortech> By starting the daemon
3775 [22:58:13] <Rortech> ?
3776 [22:58:17] <Rortech> I'm on a dell
3777 [22:58:50] <unborn> what dell you have if I may ask?
3778 [22:59:08] <Rortech> Inspiron 15
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3780 [22:59:16] <Rortech> 3000 series I think
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3785 [23:00:01] <unborn> ah well.. i am on e6 something, but never
mind try to have look in bios.. all my laptops are e series and they
can have bluetooth disabled in bios
3786 [23:00:11] <unborn> so maybe yours is disabled there?
3787 [23:00:24] <Rortech> never even seen it there
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3790 [23:01:02] <Rortech> This is the only distro where it's
not working after install but this is the best distro so far for my
laptop anyway so I dont know
3791 [23:01:16] <Rortech> It's all good
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3795 [23:01:43] <Rortech> I'm really liking Debian
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3798 [23:02:14] <Rortech> I was like why am I using distros based
on debian when I could just use debian wake up lol
3799 [23:02:35] <Rortech> seems like everything stems from here
3800 [23:02:37] <unborn> Rortech: one last question :) are you
connected via wifi or eth?
3801 [23:02:41] <unborn> aka cable
3802 [23:02:42] <unborn> ?
3803 [23:02:46] <Rortech> wifi
3804 [23:02:57] <unborn> yeah so your bluetooth should work then
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3806 [23:03:41] <Rortech> I'll get figured out in due time
like I said I only use for soundbar and I have speakers
3807 [23:03:49] <unborn> I dont see bluetooth device in terminal
as well.. perhaps I use wrong command eh
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3811 [23:04:44] <Rortech> hcitool dev
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3816 [23:06:31] <unborn> ah
3817 [23:06:38] <unborn> yeah god mac address of it
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3819 [23:06:45] <unborn> aka: hci1 A0:A8:CD:28:61:48
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3821 [23:07:21] <Rortech> so my device prob didnt install right
3822 [23:08:20] <Rortech> It's cool though I think I have an
audio cable
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3825 [23:08:47] <Rortech> well I'll be back later on I'm
gonna watch the new tarzan movie
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3827 [23:08:52] <Rortech> Later guys
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3864 [23:21:40] <kevr> Hello. I'm trying to setup
PostfixAdmin. So, I've got it up, but I can't find
documentation on how i'm supposed to be adding domains or users
3865 [23:21:45] <kevr> so i'm a bit confused unfortunately
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3894 [23:37:01] <sl4v3> i love #debian
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3928 [23:51:53] <teraflops> sl4v3: what kind of love?
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3935 [23:53:45] <sl4v3> teraflops: all the love. ;)
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3941 [23:55:34] <teraflops> hehe
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3948 [23:56:17] <sl4v3> teraflops: i'd elaborate, but
i'd be labeled a petulence and eros banned.
3949 [23:56:35] <teraflops> fair enough
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