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0[00:00:16] <bibble> literally, start, then just set and get
variables
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26[00:17:58] <awal1> Any virtual keyboard with arabic language
support?
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28[00:18:30] <awal1> I have tried xvkbd, onboard & florance
but no support for arabic
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45[00:32:57] <mountaingoats> Can anyone help me figure out what
I can now longer startx? This is my Xorg.1.log when I run startx.
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48[00:34:49] <dvs> [ 1657.144] (EE) open /dev/fb0: Permission
denied
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49[00:35:00] <dvs> How does that happen???
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56[00:39:48] <mountaingoats> dvs, I have no idea. This is my
brothers laptop and I don't have any idea what changes he might
have made to cause this :-\
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95[01:06:10] <iKarith> One wonders how Red Hat, interested
mostly in enterprise stability, ever got within 10 astronomical
units of systemd. *sigh*
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98[01:07:13] <gry> redhat were the ones who pushed it into
debian, actually; I don't complain because I switched to
upstart just fine and I'm happy with it
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99[01:07:37] <gry> if you're deploying debian anywhere
whatsoever, you're free to make the same switch and deploy it
without systemd, if you prefer
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100[01:07:51] <gry> there's nothing overwhelmingly major
about it being shipped by default
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102[01:07:58] <dvs> or use systemd-shim to stick with sysv
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105[01:08:33] <iKarith> Not so easy when you're not just
using it.
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107[01:08:46] <PryMar56> iKarith, RH masks maybe one or two
system units. Debian masks scores
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108[01:08:58] <PryMar56> systemd units
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110[01:09:32] <PryMar56> so, when using systemd on RH, its more
`pure`
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111[01:10:39] <iKarith> My issue is that fundamental things like
booting single-user don't work anymore, and the instructions
for how to work with a system to fix this under systemd are obsolete
and out of date.
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116[01:11:16] <iKarith> And in fact this is one of the boasts:
systemd is not complete and always changing.
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120[01:12:22] <awal1> gry, upstart became every day more
obsolete. ubuntu have switched to systemd
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122[01:12:51] <gry> awal1: I'm sure the old init systems
will be maintained for a while
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123[01:13:12] <iKarith> I haven't even found a procedure
for remounting / ro (you can't do it by dropping down to the
"equivalent" of runlevel 1)
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128[01:14:43] <iKarith> The thing is just too complex, too
large, too poorly understood, too poorly documented, and too fond of
changes to be evolved on a day to day basis. Some structure and
forethought is necessary here.
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132[01:15:25] <gry> iKarith: due to lack of knowledge, i refuse
to comment; if you have specific questions, you can ask them at
#systemd at chat.freenode.net
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136[01:16:16] <iKarith> I've got no problem with a Mac-like
init replacement (and let's be honest, that's what systemd
is whether RH admits that or not.) The difference is that
Apple's attempt at replacing init has a defined, static
interface, it has well-established boundaries, it isn't looking
to grow to encompass everything, and changes to it are designed to
fix edge cases rather than change functionality.
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151[01:18:33] <iKarith> I know/understand/use the Mac's
system. I'm not 100% sure it's an optimal solution (and it
wouldn't be anywhere that plist management was not part of
libc), but it does work, is understandable, and yes you can actually
boot a system without it, or could until it became so solid you
wouldn't want to. :)
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160[01:20:30] <iKarith> Anyway, I'm done ranting for the
moment. :P I just lost a system that couldn't be booted
single-user (repeated the give root passwd message 3 times and
accepted no input) because an optional fuse filesystem didn't
mount for netatalk.
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161[01:20:45] <iKarith> Had to restore that system from backup.
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180[01:24:50] <iKarith> No actually, one more complaint: Process
exited with an error code (which I, the almighty systemd, am not
going to tell you. Go run a program that you may not be able to run
to parse a binary logfile to maybe find out what the numeric error
code was.)
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303[02:02:27] <squigz> I'm getting a segfault on startx.
log is at
replaced-url
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310[02:06:53] <johnkeates> squigz: you are using an unsupported
kernel/x combo
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311[02:07:12] <squigz> That sounds fun to fix
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313[02:07:29] <johnkeates> either get the older stable kernel,
or a newer not-so-stable X
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315[02:07:56] <johnkeates> also, if you run ldd on X you should
see what libs it expects, but as far as I can see you have them
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320[02:08:32] <squigz> Well what had happened was I was running
the fglrx driver, but I couldn't configure my VGA screen with
xrandr. so I removed the fglrx driver, and installed the backports
version of libg1-mesa-dri as per missmbob's advice
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321[02:08:36] <squigz> now, segfault
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322[02:08:48] <johnkeates> it probably has inter-dependency
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324[02:09:00] <johnkeates> you'd need a complete backported
X system, kernel, libs etc.
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325[02:09:06] <johnkeates> maybe
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326[02:09:06] <squigz> :(
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327[02:09:08] <missmbob> no
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328[02:09:18] <johnkeates> maybe run with stretch :p
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329[02:09:26] <johnkeates> since you won't be stable anyway
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330[02:09:36] <johnkeates> and it's due for a
freeze/bughunt in a few months anyway
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332[02:10:05] <squigz> I only recently switched to Debian. Which
one is stretch?
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333[02:10:11] <missmbob> squigz: know what...for shits, try
apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu -t jessie-backports
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335[02:10:26] <missmbob> squigz: stretch is testing right now.
it'll be the next debian release
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337[02:10:52] <squigz> Ah
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339[02:11:03] <squigz> missmbob: installed that. reboot?
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340[02:11:07] <missmbob> squigz: yeah
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341[02:11:09] <squigz> brb
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351[02:13:17] <squigz> that didn't help :P
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352[02:13:23] <missmbob> damn
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353[02:13:41] <squigz> I thought sid was testing?
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354[02:13:53] <missmbob> no. sid is unstable
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355[02:13:56] <squigz> Ah
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356[02:14:04] <squigz> jessie is stable, right?
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358[02:14:07] <missmbob> yes
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359[02:14:17] <squigz> well I may as well upgrade to something
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361[02:14:30] <missmbob> !jessie->stretch
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362[02:14:34] <squigz> I'm kind of stuck in a tty though :P
could someone link me to the netinst ISO for Debian stretch?
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364[02:14:45] <squigz> missmbob: I'd rather just reinstall
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365[02:14:48] <squigz> This is a brand new installation anyway
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366[02:15:06] <missmbob> squigz: if you want try the alpha 8
stretch installer
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367[02:15:25] <missmbob> squigz:
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369[02:15:28] <troy_16bit> Hey, just curious is Debian 6.1 still
getting security updates? I found an ancient CD with it on there,
just curious if it could still be used....
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370[02:15:44] <squigz> missmbob: I'm stuck in a GUI-less
environment
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371[02:15:46] <squigz> I can't open that
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372[02:16:00] <redrabbit> yes you can. if you like pain
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375[02:16:17] <c-c> Debian needs a USB-device -securing
confirmation on-usb-connect.
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376[02:16:23] <c-c> Or is there such a facility?
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377[02:16:28] <c-c> Related: Poisontap
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378[02:16:36] <redrabbit> does anybody uses hostapd here ?
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385[02:19:00] <squigz> is updating from jessie to stretch fairly
painless?
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386[02:19:29] <missmbob> most of the time
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387[02:19:48] <squigz> Good. I have a jessie USB I can install
from, then I'll just update to stretch
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388[02:20:03] <missmbob> then you'll want to go here:
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389[02:20:06] <missmbob> !debian-next
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390[02:20:06] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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391[02:20:25] <squigz> Why is that one on OFTC? o.O
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392[02:20:31] <missmbob> !oftc move
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393[02:20:31] <dpkg> irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th
2006, see
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395[02:20:56] <squigz> I see
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396[02:21:03] <squigz> Are you in both then, missmbob?
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397[02:21:09] <missmbob> usually
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399[02:21:26] <squigz> Good. I'm hoping not to rrun into
anymore issues, but if I do, I'll blame you over in
#debian-next
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400[02:22:05] <missmbob> i wasnt the one that suggested stretch
;) but i dont know how to fix your problem right now
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405[02:23:11] <petn-randall> troy_16bit: squeeze doesn't
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406[02:23:12] <squigz> yeah I'm having nothing but issues
with the graphics drivers
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407[02:23:16] <squigz> I shouldn't have started messing
with them
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408[02:23:27] <petn-randall> squigz: Didn't the FOSS
drivers work for you?
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410[02:23:35] <squigz> They have
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413[02:24:16] <petn-randall> squigz: Then why not use them?
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414[02:24:27] <zykotick9> trying to <SSB> mame to jessie -
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415[02:24:30] <squigz> long story, but basically: started with
jessie + fglrx, went to sid, broke it, reinstalled jessie + OSS, VGA
display wasn't working, installed fglrx, and everything went
downhilll from there
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416[02:24:30] <missmbob> he is. segfaulting
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417[02:24:30] <zykotick9> ackport output it mentions "..
all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, archignore,
jessie-backports." <- what is archignore?
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418[02:24:42] <missmbob> haha. great story ;)
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419[02:25:08] <squigz> updating to sid was my mistake
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420[02:25:15] <iKarith> Huh, I'd missed that i.d.o had
actually moved to OFTC, given that it happened in 2006 while I was
busy being a grad student. Been centuries since I had need to be in
#d-d and I knew there were channels on both networks. Just totally
missed the detail that the "move" was in any way official.
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421[02:25:28] <missmbob> squigz: so why not just stick with
jessie after you reinstall?
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424[02:26:25] <squigz> missmbob: Because I broke jessie + fglrx,
and jessie + OSS won't allow me to use my third monitor for
some reason
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426[02:26:38] <squigz> missmbob: sid + OSS was working fine
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427[02:26:42] <missmbob> best of luck with that fuckaroo
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428[02:26:43] <squigz> I'm hoping stretch will be fine too
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429[02:26:56] <squigz> missmbob: thanks :P
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430[02:26:58] <squigz> linux++
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707[04:38:15] <goldbox> hey
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708[04:38:26] <goldbox> hey guys
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709[04:38:44] <goldbox> ass hole debian:(
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732[05:04:08] <Jen909> Hi folks.
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733[05:04:29] <Jen909> If I get a QHD monitor is my CPU going to
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794[05:55:03] <coogle> Hello all, can someone help me with a
sudoers issue I'm having trying to restart lightdm from Apache
/
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796[05:55:55] <SporkWitch> that seems non-desirable... you want
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797[05:56:01] <coogle> I have a shell script that executes
service lightdm restart, I've added that to sudoers for
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798[05:57:00] <coogle> SporkWitch: Raspberry Pi project ;) To be
more specific I want to restart DM when Alexa gets a voice command
to do so because sometimes chromium crashes and it's easiest
just to bounce the entire DM when that happens
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800[05:58:04] <SporkWitch> ugghh, pi >_< so many issues;
can you pastebin the relevant lines from sudoers?
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806[05:59:15] <coogle> SporkWitch: no need...
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808[05:59:52] <SporkWitch> silly question, but is the script
executable? :)
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809[06:00:02] <coogle> indeed. :)
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810[06:00:38] <coogle> the script just calls /usr/sbin/service
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819[06:08:57] <odigem> hi
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827[06:12:26] <odigem> i want install linux-headers but my
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831[06:13:54] <nbags> odigem: how did you install that version?
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836[06:14:59] <odigem> nbags: i dont install it, i install
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838[06:15:34] <nbags> odigem: i dont think thats the version in
debian is it?
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839[06:15:42] <odigem> 8 jessie
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842[06:16:14] <Rortech> Anyone here
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843[06:16:28] <Rusty1_> what if there was?
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844[06:16:59] <Rortech> lol was trying to get this irc all set
up and have not been able to chat
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845[06:17:13] <Rortech> so I guess... testing
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846[06:17:25] <missmbob> there used to be in jessie-backports.
now it got upgraded to 4.8
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847[06:17:52] <missmbob> so basically you need apt-get update
&& apt-get install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 -t
jessie-backports
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849[06:18:13] <missmbob> then reboot into the new kernel
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850[06:18:52] <Rortech> Just switched to Debian today so getting
everything set up
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852[06:19:39] <missmbob> odigem: paste.debian.net the output of
lsb_release -a
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867[06:28:46] <Rortech> Kind of new to the whole irc thing. why
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868[06:30:07] <bibble> some channels require you to be voiced,
before you can speak
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870[06:30:25] <Rortech> how do you get voiced
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871[06:30:35] <bibble> normally have to pm some bot in the
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873[06:30:50] <missmbob> a lot of channels just require you to
use a registered nick
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874[06:31:05] <missmbob> /msg nickserv help
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875[06:31:09] <Rortech> ok thanks.. the linux chan won't
let me send
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876[06:31:18] <missmbob> register and you'll be fine :P
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877[06:31:32] <Rortech> thank you
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879[06:31:40] <bibble> yeah, definitely register like missmbob
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881[06:35:12] <odigem> missmbob: Value «jessie» is
unacceptable for the APT :: Default-Release, since the issue is not
available in the sources
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883[06:37:33] <missmbob> odigem: paste.debian.net your
/etc/apt/sources.list
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884[06:37:53] <missmbob> odigem: you never did pastebin the last
thing i asked you for, either. lsb_release -a
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892[06:41:42] <odigem> missmbob:
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893[06:42:15] <missmbob> odigem: yeah you have it all wrong. you
only have sources for the main repo and nothing for jessie-updates
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895[06:42:19] <missmbob> !jessie sources.list
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896[06:42:19] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian
8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb
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897[06:42:42] <missmbob> you need those 3 lines and then add the
jessie-backports line
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899[06:43:09] <missmbob> then apt-get update
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906[06:44:49] <eumel> !jessie firmware-linux-amd64
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907[06:45:38] <missmbob> eumel: you probably want
firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-linux-free and/or
firmware-misc-nonfree
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908[06:45:47] <missmbob> or are you looking for cpu microcode?
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910[06:47:27] <eumel> !firmware-linux-nonfree
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911[06:47:50] <missmbob> eumel: not everything has a factoid.
you can do apt-cache show firmware-linux-nonfree in terminal for
information
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913[06:48:04] <missmbob> you need to add non-free to your repos
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914[06:48:06] <missmbob> !non-free
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915[06:48:06] <dpkg> [non-free] a component which contains
software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free
packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free
sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me
about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see
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916[06:48:44] <eumel> i wanted to know which kernel for amd64 is
currently available in backports / sid, thought there could be a
factoid for it
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917[06:48:50] <eumel> please ignore that
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918[06:49:13] <eumel> thanks for you help
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919[06:49:22] <missmbob> !kernels
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920[06:49:25] <dpkg> Linux kernel versions, mainline: 4.9-rc6,
stable 4.8: 4.8.9, stable 4.7: 4.7.10 (EOL), longterm 4.4: 4.4.33,
longterm 4.1: 4.1.35, longterm 3.18: 3.18.44, longterm 3.16:
3.16.39, longterm 3.12: 3.12.67, longterm 3.10: 3.10.104, longterm
3.4: 3.4.113, longterm 3.2: 3.2.84, linux-next: next-20161117
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921[06:49:33] <eumel> ah nice!
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922[06:49:40] <odigem> missmbob: where must be jessie-backports
?
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923[06:50:08] <missmbob> odigem: you already have a
jessie-backports in there. keep that line.
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924[06:50:12] <odigem> i got warnings about mistake in
sources.list
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925[06:50:19] <missmbob> odigem: paste it again
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926[06:50:27] <odigem> debian have wget paste?
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927[06:50:39] <missmbob> !pastebinit
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928[06:50:39] <dpkg> pastebinit is a command-line tool to send
data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"
users, you must "pastebinit -b
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929[06:51:01] <eumel> odigem:
replaced-url
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930[06:51:17] <eumel> really nice website for generating
sources.list files
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931[06:51:24] <missmbob> too bad judd is offline
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934[06:52:53] <odigem> missmbob:
replaced-url
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935[06:53:16] <Screamslash> im running my display and audio
through hdmi like i always have and i restarted today and the audio
is muted how do i fix this?
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936[06:53:40] <eumel> Screamslash: open alsamixer in terminal
and check the volume there!
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938[06:54:04] <Screamslash> its not muted
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939[06:54:31] <missmbob> odigem: delete everything you have.
make it look exactly like this.
replaced-url
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940[06:55:01] <Screamslash> this is driving me insane
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941[06:55:07] <Screamslash> it was working fine earlier all i
did was restart my pc
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942[06:55:21] <missmbob> Screamslash: running pavucontrol could
help
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944[06:55:58] <Screamslash> command not found
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945[06:56:31] <missmbob> Screamslash: does pgrep pulseaudio
output a number?
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946[06:56:56] <Screamslash> yes
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947[06:56:57] <Screamslash> ~$ pgrep pulseaudio
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948[06:56:58] <Screamslash> 30358
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949[06:56:58] <missmbob> then sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
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951[06:57:40] <Screamslash> then what
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953[06:57:48] <missmbob> then you should be able to run
pavucontrol
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957[07:00:16] <Screamslash> ok i got pavucontrol to run
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958[07:00:18] <Screamslash> now what
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960[07:00:38] <missmbob> check for the correct levels/mute/not
mute and proper output device, etc. look and play around
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961[07:00:48] <missmbob> have something playing noise in the
background
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962[07:01:19] <Screamslash> nothing is muted
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963[07:02:09] <Screamslash> it sayd HDMI(UNPLUGGED)
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965[07:02:16] <missmbob> that's a problem :P
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966[07:02:24] <Screamslash> how is that possible if im running
the display through the hdmi right now
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968[07:02:43] <missmbob> not sure. did you change kernels or
anything? you said it was working, right?
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969[07:02:47] <Screamslash> yes
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970[07:02:51] <missmbob> yes to what?
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971[07:02:54] <Screamslash> all i did was log in and log out
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972[07:03:01] <Screamslash> it was all working
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973[07:03:03] <missmbob> have you tried rebooting?
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974[07:03:03] <Screamslash> i didnt change anything
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983[07:08:27] <odigem> missmbob: target Translations configured
few times
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984[07:09:25] <ghormoon> hi, I've got interestingly broken
flashdisk, previosly there was efi bootable iso DDed to it, so I
tried DDing zeros to it to "fix" (i.e. delete) bad
partiton table (grparted complains it is in 512byte blocks but
device is 2048), now /dev/sda syas it's 10MB and even dding
zeros to it doesn't destroy /dev/sda1 ... what am I missing?
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991[07:12:53] <odigem> missmbob: i got same error "not have
in sources:
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997[07:14:52] <missmbob> odigem: paste your sources again
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999[07:15:23] <odigem> missmbob:
replaced-url
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1000[07:15:24] <missmbob> ghormoon: is anything open that's
keeping it used? gparted?
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1001[07:15:53] <missmbob> odigem: jesus no. what part of me
saying "delete everything you have and replace it with
this" didn't you understand?
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1002[07:16:09] <missmbob> odigem: *exactly* like this.
replaced-url
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1003[07:16:12] <odigem> missmbob: i copy your paste
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1004[07:16:22] <missmbob> odigem: look at what i just pasted and
tell me that's the same thing
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1005[07:16:22] <odigem> odigem: try upgrade
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1006[07:16:31] <odigem> get error
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1007[07:16:40] <odigem> add jessie-backport to all line
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1008[07:16:41] <missmbob> of course you get errors because your
sources are fucked
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1009[07:16:49] <missmbob> odigem: will you please open up that
paste i just gave you?
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1010[07:20:02] <odigem> missmbob: ok i use only your config
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1011[07:20:12] <odigem> update without errors
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1012[07:20:21] <ghormoon> missmbob: not likely, tried it in
another laptop an it did show as an unknown partition table, maybe
my laptop got nuts from the experiment
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1013[07:20:23] <odigem> but newer kernel not installed
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1016[07:20:41] <odigem> says installed newest version
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1017[07:21:04] <ghormoon> yeah, if I plug it back, it's
broken again :)
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1019[07:21:08] <odigem> kernel is 4.7+75 but headers in 4.8+76
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1020[07:21:42] <missmbob> odigem: that's stretch's
kernel. the 4.8+76 one. so you added that to your system which is a
great way to break stuff (mixing stable and testing). dont do that
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1021[07:21:48] <ghormoon> is there anything to debug this or the
standard windooze solutions for problems applies here? :)
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1024[07:22:24] <missmbob> odigem: you can remove the linux
headers packages you currently have and then get it from
jessie-backports using -t jessie-backports
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1026[07:23:07] <missmbob> which is why i asked for lsb_release -a
forever ago.
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1027[07:23:12] <odigem> missmbob: i not add strecth to
sources.list. why this fucking debian self upgrade to testing
version?
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1029[07:23:45] <odigem> in normal release testing masked
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1030[07:24:02] <odigem> linux*
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1031[07:24:04] <missmbob> given how fucked your sources were i
dont doubt anything
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1033[07:24:21] <missmbob> dpkg -l linux-headers*"
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1034[07:24:21] <dpkg> ii linux-headers*" 3.3-12
missmbob's private warez collection
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1035[07:24:23] <odigem> missmbob: I NO TOUCH SOURCES.LIST
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1036[07:24:25] <missmbob> damn
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1037[07:24:33] <odigem> I ONLY ADD NON_FREE
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1038[07:24:35] <missmbob> dpkg -l "linux-headers*"
|grep ^i will tell you which are installed
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1039[07:24:36] <dpkg> ii "linux-headers*" |grep ^i will
tell you which are installed 2.2-15.2 missmbob's private coin
collection
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1040[07:24:47] <odigem> missmbob: 3.7....
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1041[07:24:47] <missmbob> odigem: you or someone did. your
sources werent made by the installer
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1042[07:24:53] <odigem> *4.7....
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1043[07:25:22] <odigem> holy shit
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1044[07:25:50] <odigem> where it came from 4.8 ???
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1045[07:26:05] <odigem> all try to upgrade failed
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1047[07:26:42] <odigem> debian is worst distro
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1048[07:26:49] <hantu> lol
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1059[07:34:17] <eumel> odigem: try ubuntu, that's african
for "i'm not able to setup debian!"
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1060[07:34:58] <odigem> eumel: you idiot? ubuntu based on debian!
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1061[07:35:03] <babilen> eumel: Please, there really is not need
for comments like that
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1062[07:35:32] <eumel> you're right sry for that
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1063[07:35:33] <babilen> odigem: And I would also appreciate it
if you could stick to technical problems and refrain from insults
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1064[07:36:34] <eumel> odigem: are you sure about that? ubuntu
looks much different then debian
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1067[07:36:57] <eumel> odigem: it's more brown and orange
than blue
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1070[07:37:34] <odigem> eumel: fuck himself and use bolgenos
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1071[07:38:06] <ongy> Hi. I am having problems configuring my
network interface. I dropped a config I think should work in
/etc/network/interfaces.d, but things don't work.
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1072[07:38:43] <eumel> ongy: what exactly is the error?
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1076[07:39:17] <ongy> the Interface is down. Both when I start
with cable plugged in and plugging in while started
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1078[07:40:45] <eumel> ongy: you're using a Network Manager
or manual config?
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1079[07:41:33] <eumel> ongy: can you post an ifconfig -a / ip
link show in some pastebin?
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1080[07:41:36] <ongy> I don't have network manager. I
dropped that file in /etc/network/interfaces.d/enp2s0.
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1084[07:42:40] <PAV> never really understood that debian-ubuntu
flame. How about you jelly ?
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1085[07:43:01] <ongy>
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1093[07:46:58] <eumel> ongy: do you receive any errors on ifup
enp2s0?
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1094[07:47:34] <ongy> I do, let me fix that
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1100[07:48:24] <ongy> ok, the config file had an error,
allow-hotplug is without iface, and has to be after the interface
config
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1103[07:51:08] <eumel> ongy: that's right,
"allow-hotplug interface" is correct
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1110[07:54:13] <fredl> hmmm
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1112[07:54:37] <fredl> can somebody please do a whois on me and
tell me why my IP address looks the way it does?!
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1113[07:54:59] <eumel> fredl: it's an ipv6 address
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1114[07:55:00] <preaction> fredl: that's an ipv6 address
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1116[07:55:12] <fredl> yes, but I see it 2 times
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1117[07:55:19] <ongy> I don't
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1118[07:55:22] <preaction> i don't
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1119[07:55:24] <eumel> me neither
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1120[07:55:29] <fredl> hmmm
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1121[07:55:45] <fredl> interesting
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1122[07:56:17] <fredl> well 2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f833
*should* reverse resolve to smtp.3dn.nl
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1123[07:56:31] <fredl> and I'm wondering why freenode
doesn't see that
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1125[07:57:09] <fredl> when I do nslookup
2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f833 on my cmdline I do get
3.3.8.f.e.a.e.f.f.f.0.d.f.1.2.0.1.0.0.0.a.2.4.9.0.8.9.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
name = smtp.3dn.nl.
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1127[07:57:51] <fredl> it looks in my ifconfig that I have two
scope global addresses too
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1131[07:59:00] <fredl> I have a system that I configured from
scratch so it has a new internal IPv4 address....
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1134[07:59:18] <fredl> as a consequence it got a new IPv6 address
automatically, not sure exactly how that works
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1135[07:59:33] <fredl> but now I'm trying to configure it to
have the IPv6 of my old server
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1137[07:59:43] <fredl> and added to /etc/network/interfaces:
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1139[07:59:53] <fredl> iface eth0 inet6 static
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1140[07:59:53] <fredl> address 2001:980:942a:1:21f:d0ff:feae:f833
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1141[07:59:53] <fredl> gateway 2001:980:942a:1:c225:6ff:feb0:a296
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1142[07:59:53] <fredl> netmask 64
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1144[07:59:54] <babilen> dpkg: pastre
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1145[07:59:54] <dpkg> parse error: dunno what the heck
you're talking about, babilen
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1146[07:59:57] <babilen> dpkg: paste
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1147[07:59:57] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
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1150[08:00:03] <fredl> sorry
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1151[08:00:16] <babilen> Please don't paste into the
channel, but use
replaced-url
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1153[08:00:34] <fredl> yes I know, thought 4 lines wouldn't
be flooding but I guess I'm typing too fast :)
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1157[08:02:05] <fredl> hmm well....
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1159[08:02:30] <fredl> so not sure why freenode can't
reverse resolve it
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1165[08:04:58] <ongy> could be DNS-caches for all we know. the
TTLs are rather high
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1171[08:06:26] <fredl> hmm, well the reverse has been in there
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1174[08:06:49] <fredl> but thinking maybe it's a gmail
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1177[08:07:45] <fredl> anyway, got it, tnx guys, laterz
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1227[08:34:56] <holdme> Hello
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1241[08:45:07] <styler2go> Hi, is there some easy command to find
a wifi device? ifconfig, lsusb and lspci doesn't list it
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1244[08:45:53] <eumel> iwconfig
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1246[08:46:31] <themill> styler2go: perhaps real commands and
full output in a pastebin would help?
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1247[08:46:55] <eumel> styler2go: use /sbin/iwconfig
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1248[08:47:01] <styler2go> themill, those were real commands?
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1250[08:47:24] <styler2go> eumel, does not exist
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1253[08:48:01] <themill> styler2go: well you'd need ifconfig
-a; lspci -nn; etc.
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1255[08:49:09] <eumel> themill: not necessary
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1257[08:49:27] <eumel> styler2go: install it, package is
"iw"
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1258[08:49:34] <themill> if you want useful information it is
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1260[08:49:44] <styler2go> eumel, i installed it but package was
"wireless-tools"
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1261[08:50:09] <Rogach> Why apt always downloads full .deb
archive when updating? Wouldn't it be nicer to download only
the difference, since previously installed deb is cached anyway?
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1262[08:50:11] <eumel> styler2go: okay, maybe it was installed by
dependencies
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1264[08:50:21] <themill> Rogach: debdelta exists
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1265[08:50:31] <themill> !debdelta
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1266[08:50:31] <dpkg> it has been said that debdelta is a
framework for updating machines using binary diffs of the .deb
packages rather than downloading the full .deb. See
replaced-url
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1268[08:51:07] <themill> Rogach: someone still has to make the
differences between the two .deb files for you and store some
history of updates for you and eventually you realise that for 99%
of packages you're better off just grabbing the new one
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1269[08:51:56] <eumel> themill: ifconfig lists all active
interfaces by default, why is -a needed?
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1271[08:52:27] <themill> eumel: it's unlikely to be up,
given the context of the question
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1273[08:52:53] <themill> If the interface were up and configured,
there wouldn't be a question to ask.
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1274[08:53:14] <eumel> themill: makes sense i guess
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1277[08:53:45] * Rogach themill: Wow, debdelta is a good find - I was
not able to find anything like that and ended developing something
myself. Does it handle embedded archives well? (specifically
zip/gzip)
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1278[08:53:48] <Rogach> themill: Wow, debdelta is a good find - I
was not able to find anything like that and ended developing
something myself. Does it handle embedded archives well?
(specifically zip/gzip)
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1284[08:54:20] <ByteStorm> guys is it true tht you hav to keep
your bluetooth on for the wifi to work in a laptop?
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1285[08:54:41] <babilen> It isn't
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1289[08:55:14] <themill> Rogach: it uses xdelta for it, so it
handles it as well as xdelta will. xdelta fails pretty badly on some
compression options
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1290[08:55:14] <babilen> I am aware of at least one case in which
that isn't the case
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1297[08:55:49] <jelly> ByteStorm: mine doesn't. It's
plausible some _specific_ crazy buggy hardware platform with
intesting rfkill breakage might need something like that
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1298[08:55:53] <styler2go> iwconfig doesn't list any device,
eumel
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1301[08:56:34] <missmbob> which is why themill asked for lspci
-nn
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1302[08:56:35] <eumel> styler2go: do you have drivers installed
for the specific device?
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1303[08:56:50] <styler2go> I am trying to find the device first,
eumel
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1306[08:57:37] <eumel> styler2go: follow missmbob and themill,
lspci -nn should list you're wifi device
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1307[08:57:48] <styler2go> missmbob, but lspci doesn't list
any wifi device. It shows: Host bridge, VGA compatible controller,
Multimedia controller, signal processing controller, usb controller,
encryption controller and ISA bridge
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1309[08:57:58] <ByteStorm> jelly could you advice me to how to
check if proper wifi drivers are installed on my lappy?
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1313[08:58:14] <babilen> styler2go: Show us the commands you
executed and their complete output on
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1315[08:58:15] <styler2go>
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1351[09:08:00] <Elirips> Hello. I'm on debian jessie,
running certbot from backports. I'm trying to figure out who is
chaning the permission of /var/log/letsencrypt/letsencrypt.log from
user 'certbot' to user 'root':
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1374[09:13:33] <MaBunny> ok guys,so how do i check if my wifi
driver is working properly or not?
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1378[09:14:59] <styler2go> iwconfig? :D
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1379[09:15:18] <nkuttler> define working properly
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1380[09:17:25] <MaBunny> well,working properly = not having both
bluetooth and wifi ON at the same time
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1394[09:26:45] <ws2k3> question, i have 2 debian machines
configured as a load balacers. they work fine for many years
already. only they are running debian 6. is it recommanded to
upgrade them? is leaving them on debian 6 a security risk?
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1395[09:27:31] <missmbob> yes. yes. 6 LTS support ended in Feb
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1398[09:29:16] <ws2k3> missmbob but they are only reachable on
LAN, all WAN ports are closed except 80 and 443, and those just get
forwarded to other machines using keepalived so where would be the
security risk
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1400[09:30:18] <eumel> ws2k3: if someones intruded into the lan
he can attack those two targets easy
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1401[09:31:22] <ws2k3> eumel hmm yeah seems valid. so i just need
to go upgrade those machines?
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1403[09:31:27] <styler2go> So, anyone an idea how to find my wifi
hardware device? My lspci --n:
replaced-url
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1404[09:32:28] <eumel> styler2go: lspci doesn't list a wifi
device (i didn't see one), maybe it's name is not that
obvious, you could grep in dmesg for it ..
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1407[09:32:56] <nkuttler> styler2go: try lsusb
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1410[09:33:41] <styler2go> nkuttler, no wifi device :/
replaced-url
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1411[09:33:50] <eumel> ws2k3: how likely is it that someone will
intrude you're LAN?
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1412[09:33:54] <nkuttler> well, i can't open your js-only
bin anyway
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1413[09:33:57] <styler2go> But i know that it's onboard, it
has an antenne plug and on windows it was working
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1415[09:35:07] <eumel> styler2go: have you searched in dmesg
output? .. should be recognizes somewhere in it
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1417[09:35:42] <styler2go> eumel, nothign about "wifi"
or "wlan"
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1418[09:35:49] <nkuttler> styler2go: net
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1419[09:36:31] <styler2go> nothing really.. just audit:
initializing netlink subsys (disabled)
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1423[09:37:01] <nkuttler> styler2go: check your manual, the one
that came with the machine
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1424[09:37:24] <styler2go> on which hint? which driver i need?
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1426[09:38:36] <nkuttler> styler2go: anything really. how
it's connected, chipset, etc
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1427[09:38:43] <styler2go> ok i will try
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1429[09:38:49] <babilen> styler2go: It would help to know the
name of your (allegedly installed) wifi card
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1432[09:39:13] <styler2go> it's onboard on a SoC
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1437[09:40:40] <eumel> styler2go: what about broadcom or br, i
think they don't match wifi / wlan
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1440[09:43:44] <unborn> is there any way to read messages from
boot screen? I saw something red there but was unable to pause it
while booting debian..
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1441[09:44:19] <missmbob> dmesg --color=always
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1444[09:46:10] <nohitall> hi, I need some ideas, I can't ssh
into a system from another system, root via sshkey is enabled, no
firewall rules, everytime I try it asks for password and fails. Not
sure if I forget anything to check
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1445[09:46:45] <nohitall> weird thing is its not even showing the
root login attempt in auth.log
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1448[09:48:20] <eumel> nohitall: try ssh -v, that should give you
a more verbose log
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1449[09:48:27] <styler2go> I found the windows driver for my
device and found it is Realtek 8723as
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1450[09:49:09] <eumel> nohitall: you can extend this to ssh -vvv
for debug logging in level 3
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1452[09:50:19] <nohitall> eumel: true, forgot I have that
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1453[09:50:22] <styler2go> so i found out the wifi device is
conencted via SDIO, does linux support this?
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1456[09:50:44] <eumel> styler2go: styler2go found a thread via
google, firmware realtek should contain this driver
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1457[09:50:54] <eumel> styler2go:
replaced-url
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1463[09:51:13] <nohitall> eumel: how to interpret this?
replaced-url
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1464[09:51:25] <nohitall> weird
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1470[09:53:25] <eumel> nohitall: the server most likely
can't access the authorized_keys file, i've seen this
before
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1472[09:53:50] <eumel> nohitall: can you check permissions on the
.ssh directory and authorized_keys file?
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1473[09:54:01] <nohitall> I did , they are correct, 700 on .ssh
and 600 on auth file
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1474[09:54:08] <nohitall> but as I said login attempt doesnt even
show in auth.log
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1475[09:54:24] <nohitall> but I can ssh into with my user and
password, but only from another machine
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1476[09:54:28] <nohitall> makes no sense :/
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1477[09:54:44] <nohitall> root setting is without-password,
jessie defaults
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1478[09:54:48] <nohitall> fresh jessie install
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1479[09:54:54] <eumel> nohitall: is there a firewall between the
other machine and the target or something?
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1480[09:54:59] <nohitall> no
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1481[09:55:09] <nohitall> first thing I checked
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1483[09:55:58] <eumel> styler2go: firmware-realtek is in the
non-free branch, you'll have to add this to your sources.list
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1484[09:56:03] <nohitall> not my first server, just came here
because I am out of ideas hehe
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1485[09:56:12] <nohitall> I wonder why it said "we did not
send a paket"
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1486[09:56:16] <nohitall> due to lack of response?
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1488[09:56:23] <themill> nohitall: /root/.ssh/id_ed25519 is
unlikely to be the public key; that should be a private key
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1490[09:56:38] <nohitall> themill: true, weird
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1492[09:57:05] <themill> (I don't recall if ssh
automagically adds/removes .pub but I do remember playing this game
before)
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1494[09:57:18] <nohitall> I defo copied the pubkey
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1496[09:57:51] <themill> You'd normally copy the private key
(from client to server)
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1497[09:57:52] <eumel> nohitall: can you call ssh with -i and the
key file directly? so that we know it's using the right one?
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1500[09:58:42] <eumel> themill: the server get's the
id_rsa.pub file usually?
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1501[09:58:59] <Ticho> just inspect the file, if it is just one
line, it's a public key, if it says PRIVATE KEY, it is that
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1502[09:59:03] <themill> err umm yeah
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1504[09:59:26] <nohitall>
replaced-url
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1505[09:59:28] <nohitall> same
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1506[09:59:54] <nohitall> Ticho: the files are correct
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1507[10:00:02] <nohitall> using them since 2 years, just checked
too
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1509[10:00:15] <Ticho> btw, why not use ssh-copy-id utility to
make sure it gets copied and added correctly?
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1510[10:00:15] <nohitall> I can ssh into my other machines from
there just fine
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1513[10:00:29] <eumel> maybe there's something wrong with
the keys in /etc/ssh/, you could run rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host_* and
reconfigure with dpkg-reconfigure sshd afterwards
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1515[10:00:35] <Iota> Hi Debianers :3
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1519[10:00:56] <Ticho> perhaps the permissions on
.ssh/authorized_keys file are too lax - ssh doesn't like that
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1520[10:01:06] <Ticho> that's a common issue
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1522[10:01:26] <nohitall> -rw------- 1 root root 97 Nov 20 20:25
/root/.ssh/authorized_keys
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1523[10:01:32] <nohitall> chmod 600, chmod700 .ssh
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1524[10:01:41] <Iota> What should I install, MySQL-Server or
MariaDB-Server ?
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1525[10:01:53] <nohitall> Iota: personal choice, I'd favor
MariaDB
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1526[10:01:56] <eumel> nohitall: that's how it should be
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1528[10:02:03] <themill> is postgresql a valid answer?
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1530[10:02:15] * Iota high-fives nohitall
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1531[10:02:18] <eumel> themill: or sqlite?
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1532[10:03:22] <eumel> nohitall: bad ownership of files / folders
should also be mentioned somewhere in auth.log i think
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1534[10:03:54] <nohitall> huh ok I think I know why, seems I am
getting redirected to the wrong system
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1535[10:03:57] <eumel> nohitall: you're not running selinux
or something?
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1539[10:04:22] <unborn> thanks missmbob
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1541[10:04:40] <nohitall> oh man
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1543[10:04:42] * nohitall facepalms
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1545[10:04:50] <themill> hah
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1546[10:04:57] * nohitall pushes face through the face
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1547[10:05:02] <themill> dpkg, pal nohitall
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1548[10:05:02] * dpkg points at nohitall and laughs
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1549[10:05:08] <nohitall> dns cache
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1550[10:05:21] <nohitall> Just wondered why -v said remote
version is 7.3
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1553[10:06:32] <unborn> Job rpcbind.service/start deleted to
break ordering cycle starting with basic.target/start - should I be
worried about this?
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1554[10:06:47] <eumel> styler2go: any good news on the realtek
front?
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1555[10:07:03] <styler2go> eumel, trying to compile and trying to
find out hwo to use sdio
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1556[10:07:14] <styler2go> had to dist-upgrade first etc.
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1561[10:08:47] <nohitall> love when people change dns entries
without tell you
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1562[10:08:52] <nohitall> thanks guys
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1567[10:10:08] <eumel> nohitall: you're welcome
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1577[10:12:29] <styler2go> eumel, didn't really work out at
all
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1580[10:13:58] <eumel> styler2go: you installed the driver and
did what?
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1581[10:14:12] <eumel> styler2go: can you lsmod and check if wl
modules are compiled now?
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1583[10:14:29] <eumel> styler2go: i guess you have to reboot or
modprobe modules now
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1585[10:14:43] <styler2go> i did modprobe and reboot
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1587[10:14:57] <styler2go> the thing is, the wifi device is an
sdio device
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1588[10:15:04] <styler2go> so i need something to get sdio
working
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1592[10:16:17] <babilen> And this is a run-off-themill Debian?
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1593[10:16:29] <styler2go> strecht/testing
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1594[10:16:29] <babilen> What's the device?
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1595[10:16:38] <styler2go> some SoC device
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1596[10:16:46] <styler2go> with amd64 cpu
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1597[10:16:48] <babilen> So you don't know the name?
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1599[10:17:00] * themill highlights babilen in return
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1600[10:17:08] <babilen> :-þ
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1601[10:17:15] <styler2go>
replaced-url
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1628[10:26:09] <jelly> styler2go: lspci -nn would be a bit more
useful
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1629[10:26:16] <eumel> styler2go: shouldn't this be handled
by the realtek driver?
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1630[10:26:33] <styler2go> eumel, not if it has no SDIO support i
guess
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1632[10:26:48] <styler2go> jelly,
replaced-url
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1633[10:27:06] <missmbob> is there actually anything going on
with #841533 and #841419 or are we just going to have to use
workarounds forever? no big deal...just wondering if there's a
plan so i can tell phil
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1634[10:27:07] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1635[10:27:37] <jelly> TIL: cherry trail is WEIRD
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1636[10:27:45] <styler2go> ikr
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1637[10:27:47] <styler2go> really weird
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1639[10:28:06] <styler2go> setting up X was a struggle already
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1648[10:30:06] <jelly> what are its hwdec capabilities, does it
do H.265?
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1651[10:30:30] <styler2go> on the cherry trail?
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1654[10:30:42] <jelly> yes
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1655[10:31:05] <styler2go> i only tried H.264 yet
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1659[10:31:42] <fairway> morning
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1662[10:34:42] <eumel> styler2go: i'm out, aren't sdio
devices supported on linux?
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1663[10:34:55] <eumel> styler2go: totaly confused right now
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1664[10:35:33] <styler2go> i am not sure, i never had such a
think
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1666[10:35:36] <styler2go> thing*
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1670[10:36:48] <styler2go> jelly, just tried a 1280x720 sample
and it worked nicely
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1671[10:36:52] <eumel> styler2go: can you type the cars model
again?
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1672[10:36:58] <eumel> styler2go: *the cards
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1673[10:37:15] <jelly> styler2go: but does it say it used vaapi
or not
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1675[10:38:36] <styler2go> Using hardware decoding (vaapi).
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1676[10:38:36] <styler2go> VO: [opengl] 1280x720 vaapi
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1677[10:38:45] <styler2go> command was: mpv --fs --vo=opengl
--hwdec=vaapi TearsOfSteel_720p_h265.mkv
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1680[10:39:46] <jelly> nod
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1683[10:40:21] <jelly> that would make it usable as a htpc
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1685[10:40:50] <styler2go> i think so. but windows worked a lot
smoother on it to be honest.. maybe cherry trail is too new?
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1688[10:41:21] <shtrb> Is there any danger in adding
"secure_file_priv=" inside
~/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf (workaround for
replaced-url
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1689[10:41:22] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1691[10:41:26] <eumel> styler2go: what was you're wifi cards
serial again?
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1696[10:42:11] <eumel> styler2go: can you check if the model is
listed in apt-cache show firmware-realtek?
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1698[10:42:46] <eumel> maybe the driver isn't supported by
the package in the repos, you'd have to compile from source
then
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1701[10:43:34] <JyZyXEL> what is the command to re-build a simple
sid backport when there is a new dash release of the package?
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1704[10:44:20] <styler2go> eumel, if there is source
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1705[10:44:25] <JyZyXEL> it seems as doing 'apt-get -b
source' in the same directory might not actually do the right
thing
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1708[10:46:41] <eumel> styler2go: is it listed? i'd really
like to know how you fixed this.
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1711[10:47:29] <styler2go> it is listed
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1713[10:48:30] <eumel> styler2go: okay. hm, had some similiar
issue a while a go with an sdio device, solved that by installing
drivers from the repos.
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1717[10:49:58] <styler2go> somehow it doesn't recognize it
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1718[10:50:02] <styler2go> can't figure out why
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1722[10:53:06] <styler2go> i found the windows drivers for it..
but that doesn't really help i guess
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1723[10:53:26] <missmbob> who knows...
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1724[10:53:40] <missmbob> !ndiswrapper
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1725[10:53:40] <dpkg> NDISwrapper enables the use of Windows XP
(not Vista/7/8) network device drivers within the Linux kernel (x86
and x86-64 systems only). If a Linux kernel driver is available for
your device, consider using that instead; for wireless LAN devices,
ask me about <wireless>. To install NDISwrapper on Debian
systems, see
replaced-url
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1726[10:53:48] <missmbob> sounds like the devil's magic
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1727[10:53:59] <styler2go> really sounds like it
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1729[10:55:25] <eumel> compatible windows and linux drivers, not
suprising these days :D
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1733[10:56:39] <shtrb> missmobb , you say it like FOSS isn't
some unholy magic
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1735[10:57:02] <shtrb> but NDIS drivers are borken on windows
because of a redisgn
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1736[10:57:10] <shtrb> so a recent driver would crash win 8 /10
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1737[10:57:17] <shtrb> *8.1 / 10
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1743[10:58:38] <shtrb> anything which is NDIS 6 and up is
dangerous
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1745[10:59:59] <styler2go> i don't want to use ndis anyway
:D
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1746[11:00:12] <styler2go> but damn.. how hard can it be to get
the SDIO wifi running
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1748[11:00:49] <shtrb> I had to change 3 different normal wifi
dongeles to find one that would work in debian
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1750[11:00:56] <shtrb> so , don't be amazed
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1751[11:01:31] * shtrb praise the atheros gods
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1752[11:02:09] <styler2go> this one is onboard, hard to change :D
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1753[11:02:38] <shtrb> you can always add another one
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1755[11:03:38] <styler2go> yeah.. will be the final solution
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1756[11:03:39] <shtrb> check the local makers hacker space they
are magicitions with solder iron
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1758[11:04:14] <shtrb> *magicians
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1759[11:04:31] <styler2go> strange part is that the device is not
listed in /sys/bus/sdio/
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1761[11:05:25] <shtrb> I missed the details what device is it ?
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1764[11:05:32] <shtrb> one of the connect over GPIO ?
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1765[11:05:43] <styler2go> no, over SDIO
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1766[11:05:51] <styler2go> it's onbaord but on the SDIO bus
i guess
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1775[11:11:06] <Crabunhador> Hi all, I'm trying to install
Jessie in a new computer, but the installer does not list disk
partitions. Instead, I have the option to "Configure iSCSI
volumes" in the menu, but I've never configured such a
thing
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1776[11:11:30] <shtrb> your disks are not seen
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1779[11:11:46] <Crabunhador> The thing is that if I go to a
console pressing Alt + F2 and run 'fdisk -l' the
partitions seem to show correctly
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1781[11:12:02] <shtrb> a router from free telecom ?
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1783[11:12:26] <shtrb> wrong channel
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1793[11:20:18] <Crabunhador> I only have the option to log into
iSCSI targets, but I don't know what IP to use, since this is a
local disk
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1806[11:29:48] <mazzanet> hey all
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1808[11:29:59] <mazzanet> anyone running testing, exim4 and
mariadb 10?
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1811[11:31:06] <shtrb> do you have a specific question ?
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1812[11:31:20] <shtrb> or is it a poll
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1813[11:31:41] <mazzanet> latest update seems to have broken a
dep for me
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1814[11:31:57] <mazzanet> Setting up exim4-config (4.88~RC4-2)
...
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1815[11:31:59] <mazzanet> /usr/sbin/exim4: error while loading
shared libraries: libmariadbclient.so.18: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory
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1816[11:32:15] <mazzanet> from what i can tell
libmariadbclient.so.18 isn't actually a thing?
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1817[11:32:39] <missmbob> !debian-next
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1818[11:32:39] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1819[11:32:44] <missmbob> mazzanet: ^
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1820[11:32:49] <mazzanet> doh
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1830[11:38:22] <nohitall> where are boot files defined if one has
not grub installed?
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1832[11:38:32] <nohitall> trying to figure out why its still
using old kernel
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1833[11:39:22] <nkuttler> nohitall: what do you use instead of
grub?
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1836[11:39:43] <nohitall> no idea, I didnt set this up, its some
weird minimal setup
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1837[11:39:50] <nohitall> but I can't find any grub
directory/files
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1839[11:40:00] <nkuttler> well, there are other bootloaders..
which arch is this?
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1840[11:40:03] <nohitall> in /boot are only files of the new
kernel but it still boots in default
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1841[11:40:07] <nohitall> jessie amd64
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1842[11:40:28] <nohitall> what would debian use on a minimal
install without baseutils?
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1843[11:40:42] <nkuttler> busybox?
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1844[11:40:49] <relaxed> mazzanet: install libmariadbclient18
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1846[11:40:59] <nohitall> hm nop
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1847[11:41:20] <nohitall> gawd I hate the guy who set this system
up, bloody mess
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1849[11:41:37] <shtrb> under / ?
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1850[11:41:42] <nkuttler> nohitall: ask him
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1851[11:42:11] <nohitall> shouldnt /boot always show running
kernel files?
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1852[11:42:24] <nkuttler> nohitall: no
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1853[11:42:28] <shtrb> look where vmlinuz point at
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1854[11:42:41] <nohitall> nowhere
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1855[11:42:43] <shtrb> that dir will probabaly hold what you are
asking
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1856[11:42:50] <nohitall> there is only the vmlinuz of the new
kernel
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1857[11:43:01] <nkuttler> nohitall: /vmlinuz
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1859[11:43:40] <nohitall> hmm
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1860[11:43:47] <nohitall> points to the right file
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1861[11:44:15] <shtrb> what abot /initrd.img ?
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1862[11:44:48] <shtrb> and are you sure you are reading the
partition with the bootloader ?
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1863[11:44:53] <nohitall>
replaced-url
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1864[11:44:56] <nohitall> doesnt that look weird?
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1865[11:45:32] <nkuttler> nohitall: what kind of hardware is that
anyway. could have a kernel in the firmware or whatever
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1866[11:45:38] <nohitall> KVM
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1867[11:45:59] <nohitall> maybe the kernel name is just wrong hm
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1869[11:46:34] <nohitall> hm no paxtest says its loaded still the
vanilla kernel
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1870[11:46:39] <nohitall> not the grsec
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1871[11:47:22] <nohitall> I tried to intall grub2 but it failed,
left me in some endless repeat of "continue without installing
grub?"
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1875[11:48:40] <nohitall> yea, waiting for him, best to burn the
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1876[11:49:02] <nohitall> well thx anyway, nice channel compared
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2084[13:27:16] <daemon> hey all has anyon managed to install
steam succesfully?
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2093[13:29:52] <ws2k3> what is wrong here?
replaced-url
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2104[13:32:36] <petn-randall> !bat
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2105[13:32:36] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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2106[13:32:39] <pkv> hi
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2107[13:32:56] <ws2k3> petn-randall
replaced-url
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2109[13:33:08] <pkv> daemon: i dont know archive but i think you
have to "tel" what archive you want
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2110[13:33:18] <pkv> like
replaced-url
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2111[13:33:25] <pkv> in your source.list
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2112[13:33:28] <ws2k3> petn-randall i checked the url and the
folder updates does not exsist anymore so thats why it fails
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2113[13:34:42] <ws2k3> petn-randall i commented out both the
replaced-url
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2116[13:35:24] <ws2k3> petn-randall so now i only have: deb
replaced-url
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2117[13:35:24] <ws2k3> deb-src
replaced-url
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2161[13:58:50] <petn-randall> ws2k3: It's only of value to
install new things. squeeze hasn't been supported with security
updates for about 10 months now.
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2162[13:59:28] <petn-randall> ws2k3: That is why I'm
guessing squeeze-updates returns a 404.
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2166[14:02:13] <ws2k3> petemc thx
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2167[14:02:19] <ws2k3> petn-randall thx (A)
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2169[14:03:54] <nadley> hi guys I have is there different mirror
of Debian in China. I use one but the InRelease file is expired and
this cause trouble to my deployment script as the RC code is not 0
when it performs an "apt update". The incrimined file is :
replaced-url
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2172[14:05:05] <abrotman> nadley: debian.org/mirrors/list there
are several
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2175[14:06:10] <nadley> abrotman: ok thanks gonna llok if I can
use several in my config file
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2176[14:06:50] <nadley> *look
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2200[14:24:58] <paul_grozav> hello, I have no sound on my debian
system, only HDMI output. Any idea what could be wrong ?
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2202[14:25:27] <neredsenvy> Is apt-update failing for anyone else
?
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2203[14:25:52] <neredsenvy> None of the mirrors seem to work
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2206[14:26:16] <neredsenvy>
replaced-url
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2207[14:26:47] <jelly> you have a dns resolving issue, neredsenvy
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2208[14:26:55] <han-solo> bash: apt-update: command not found
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2210[14:27:25] <neredsenvy> jelly: Ill try google DNS
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2215[14:29:18] <han-solo> is apt update the same as apt-get
update?
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2218[14:30:08] <OpenTokix> han-solo: almost, it is also apt-get
upgrade
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2219[14:30:18] <OpenTokix> nevermind
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2221[14:31:09] <neredsenvy> Hm tried google public DNS same issue
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2222[14:31:12] <paul_grozav>
replaced-url
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2268[14:52:04] <paul_grozav> does anyone have a clue if there are
any driver problems with intel soundcards on laptops? My debian
can't use it
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2269[14:52:47] <SebastianKutter> Hi. Is there any way to get USB
devices to any remote machine i connect to?
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2285[14:59:07] <Selveste1> Hey everybody, I have a problem on my
Debian Stretch installation, I'm running bind9.10.4 with DNSSEC
on it, and it suddenly stopped working, I don't think there
have been changed anything in it other than what isc-dhcp changes.
There is no errors of importants and the service startes but just
dont reply me. I think I have tried just about everything now and
still cant get it to work..... I have pasted what I think is
relevant in
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2286[14:59:09] <Selveste1> here,
replaced-url
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2330[15:19:17] <tehrabbitt> Good Morning :) So I have a question
regarding debian mirrors / how long files stay valid for etc.
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2333[15:21:02] <tehrabbitt> I have both QA and PROD servers,
running Debian stable. I want to be able to run updates monthly, but
QA and PROD *must* have the same updates applied for obvious
reasons. This said, I built an in-house repository, and it is
syncing to the debian mirrors currently daily. now originally I
tried to have it sync weekly, but it complained that the mirror was
basically "out of date" in terms of upgrades and
woudln't upgrade to either my QA or
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2334[15:21:02] <tehrabbitt> PROD systems.
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2337[15:21:59] <tehrabbitt> Basically I just want to build a
system that will mirror the debian stable repos, and hold it locally
so that I can ensure when I run apt-get update/upgrade on my QA
servers, and then my PROD servers, they get the same exact patches /
are identical
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2340[15:22:50] <OpenTokix> tehrabbitt: apt-mirror and
apt-cacher-ng might be something you want to look into.
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2351[15:27:49] <tehrabbitt> OpenTokix, i'm currently using
apt-mirror. Never heard of apt-cachr-ng
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2353[15:28:18] <tehrabbitt> OpenTokix, the issue I ran into, was
that the timestamp on the updates apparently expired or something
along those lines, which when I did an apt-get update from the
servers against my internal mirror, it said it was stale, and could
not be used
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2354[15:29:05] <ws2k3> i have a machine with debian squeeze. and
im trying to upgrade it to wheezy. but when i run apt-get
dist-upgrade it just says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove
and 0 not upgraded. what could this be?
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2359[15:29:53] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, in your apt.sources file, what
do you have specified?
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2361[15:29:59] <tehrabbitt>
replaced-url
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2363[15:30:36] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, /etc/apt/sources
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2364[15:30:40] <ws2k3> tehrabbitt
replaced-url
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2367[15:31:05] <tehrabbitt> Okay, if you look in that file, you
have Squeeze specified.
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2368[15:31:17] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, you need to change those to
"Wheezy"
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2370[15:31:19] <ws2k3> tehrabbitt yes true
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2371[15:31:25] <ws2k3> tehrabbitt hmm ur sure?
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2372[15:31:35] <tehrabbitt> (this is where aptitude pulls the
version it needs to update to/from)
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2373[15:31:38] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, Yes.
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2374[15:31:56] <themill> ws2k3: what is it you're trying to
achieve again
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2376[15:32:05] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, if you have only squeeze in
that file, when you do a dist-upgrade, it is determining "What
packages do I need to get from current, to squeeze? None? Okay"
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2378[15:32:16] <ws2k3> themill squeeze to wheezy
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2379[15:32:31] <themill> ws2k3: and how is apt going to get
packages from wheezy?
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2380[15:32:40] <ws2k3> themill not :D
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2381[15:32:42] <tehrabbitt> themill, his apt sources is set to
squeeze still :P
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2382[15:32:50] <themill> tehrabbitt: I know
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2383[15:33:20] <ws2k3> tehrabbitt so. shall i just change squeeze
to debian in this file? i can also grap the orginal wheezy apt
file(icluding the security repo) and then try to upgrade what do you
recommand?
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2384[15:33:31] <ws2k3> squeeze to wheezy*
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2385[15:33:42] <themill> ws2k3: you should read the release notes
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2386[15:33:49] <tehrabbitt> themill++
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2388[15:34:12] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, release notes often tell you
if there are certain packages that need to be updated or such prior
to a dist-upgrade
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2389[15:34:14] <themill> [Tuesday 07 May 2013] [00:25:59]
<themill> ws2k3: as usual, you should read through the release
notes
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2391[15:34:20] <themill> thought that was familiar.
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2392[15:34:29] <tehrabbitt> themill, lol.
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2405[15:37:06] <atrapado_> Hi. Whichever program generates my
/etc/resolv.conf appends %wlan0 to the IP address of the nameserver
so several programs do not work (host dig qemu ...). How to avoid
this?
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2406[15:37:28] <ws2k3> so after i replaced the sources i can just
do apt-get dist-upgrade?
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2408[15:38:04] <themill> ws2k3: you should read the release notes
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2411[15:40:08] <tehrabbitt> ws2k3, srsly listen to themill. they
are trying to save you headaches and heartache :)
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2413[15:40:23] <tehrabbitt> read through the release notes
carefully, make sure to follow step by step, don't skim it!
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2414[15:40:25] <RikuKawai> how come sometimes I get asked for the
passphrase for my SSH keys again?
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2418[15:40:51] <RikuKawai> I'll do ssh-add, and it will work
for a while, then I'll boot up and it will ask for the
passphrase again
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2420[15:40:58] <atrapado_> like this: $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
-> nameserver fe80::(...)%wlan0
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2421[15:41:24] <themill> atrapado_: does nothing in that file
indicate what is generating it?
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2422[15:41:51] <atrapado_> themill, no, it only has a line with
the nameserver
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2424[15:42:26] <RikuKawai> mine says generated by NetworkManager
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2425[15:42:33] <themill> atrapado_: how do you configure the rest
of your network? (n-m? systemd-networkd? dhcp?
/etc/network/interfaces? wicd?)
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2426[15:44:03] <atrapado_> it is dhcp, but I do not know whow
configures it, maybe network manager ?
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2439[15:46:12] <atrapado_> themill, it may be NetworkManager, as
I configure the wifi there.
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2440[15:46:26] <ws2k3> how can i determine if my system has a
self/custom compiled kernel? machine is debian squeeze. when i run
uname -a it shows me Linux lb1 2.6.32 #1 SMP Fri Jan 4 21:17:44 CET
2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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2448[15:48:53] <colo-work> ws2k3, I'm pretty certain
that's squeeze actual. `debsums linux-image-amd64` might help.
or `dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-*`
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2449[15:50:09] <biehoh> it looks like apt is ignoring my pinning
replaced-url
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2451[15:51:16] <ws2k3> colo-work debsums: package
linux-image-amd64 is not installed linux-image-2.6.32:
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32 linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64:
/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 is the output of dpkg -S
/boot/vmlinuz-*
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2460[15:53:41] <hron84> Hi! I trying to re-create a binary deb
package without source (i have no access to the source package, this
is a legacy, discontinued software) with fixed dependencies for
Ubuntu Yakkety. However, I faced with error when trying to run
dpkg-buildpackage against these configs:
replaced-url
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2463[15:54:24] <_ph33r> ##security
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2465[15:54:48] <vimpulse> hron84: Hi! What version of Debian are
you running?
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2466[15:54:56] <hron84> Ubuntu 16.04
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2468[15:55:05] * vimpulse scratches his head
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2469[15:55:09] <hron84> but I think the os is irrelevant.
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2470[15:55:26] <hron84> it's a dpkg issue independent from
difference between ubuntu and debian.
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2471[15:55:51] <hron84> i know i made mistakes in the control
file but i dunno what
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2478[15:58:00] <vimpulse> hron84: I agree that dpkg is a project
maintained in Debian. But I wonder whether or not your question is
on-topic here.
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2479[15:58:00] <vimpulse> hron84: Who wrote the software?
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2482[15:58:47] <hron84> vimpulse: IBM. But I cannot ask them to
update the package, because it's a discontinued product they
don't support it, even they have absolute no resource to
maintain it.
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2485[15:59:17] <vimpulse> hron84: May I ask?: What's the
name of the IBM product?
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2487[15:59:33] <hron84> vimpulse: look into the link ;-)
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2491[16:01:45] <hron84> vimpulse: but regardless the software, I
have to solve this issue. Do you have any idea why dpkg-buildpackage
says this?
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2492[16:02:08] <hron84> I would rather not chat about WHY I want
to solve this issue, I want to chat about HOW. If it is possible.
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2496[16:02:57] <nkuttler> hron84: um, without source, how would
your package work with newer libs that had api changes
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2498[16:03:32] <hron84> nkuttler: this package is works on my
machine (it's ubuntu xenial) and i'm pretty sure it will
work with yakkety too.
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2500[16:03:57] <nkuttler> hron84: well don't guess, install
it first
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2501[16:04:18] <vimpulse> hron84: What version of IBM Lotus Notes
are you packaging?
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2502[16:04:19] <hron84> nkuttler: i want it, but i can't. I
wanna build the package for install this stuff.
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2503[16:04:26] <hron84> 9.0.1
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2504[16:04:27] <nkuttler> hron84: dpkg --force-help
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2506[16:04:53] <nkuttler> anyway, you should be in the ubuntu
channel
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2508[16:05:07] <hron84> nkuttler: you could answer the question
there too.
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2510[16:05:12] <hron84> I'm online there.
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2511[16:05:15] <nkuttler> hron84: i don't use ubuntu
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2513[16:05:27] <hron84> nkuttler: in this case, thanks for your
great assistance.
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2519[16:06:05] <hron84> vimpulse: what do you thinking about? Do
you have an idea?
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2521[16:06:54] <vimpulse> nkuttler: #ubuntu is more geared to
end-user support, not to packaging help.
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2522[16:06:54] <vimpulse> hron84: /msg alis list *ubuntu* -min 30
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2523[16:06:54] <vimpulse> hron84: maybe #ubuntu-app-devel is the
right channel for you?
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2525[16:07:32] <DrBunsen> Hello, can anyone tell my what I am
doing wrong? I got a bash script to change my background wallpaper
with a random one(works) but when I try to make a cronjob to do it
automatically, it doesn't work. This is my cron line: 0 * * * *
/bin/sh /home/bunsen/wallpaper.sh &
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2526[16:07:38] <DrBunsen> That should work right?
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2529[16:07:59] <zebulon1st> hi! I'd like to find where are
USC ports settings : I have a USB RTL8187 wifi card plugged in my
laptop, but I can't connect to any box. Maybe because USB ports
are automatically deactivated after a while (as in windows) !? How
to know ? how to solve ?
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2530[16:07:59] <hron84> vimpulse: maybe. But before i go there...
do you have any idea what the error message means? Regardless if it
is an ubuntu or a debian?
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2531[16:08:08] <hron84> vimpulse: let assume it caused on a
Debian 8.
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2532[16:08:10] <zebulon1st> *USC->USB
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2533[16:08:20] <vimpulse> hron84: did you try ( dpkg --force-help
) yet?
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2535[16:08:30] <nkuttler> vimpulse: i'm sure #ubuntu knows
where to get help with packaging..
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2536[16:08:43] <th0r> DrBunsen, try putting the whole command in
quotes
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2537[16:08:55] <hron84> vimpulse: i did, but i would rather not
go on this way. I wanna distribute this package automatically and
automatical tools cannot use --force-depends
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2540[16:09:09] <nkuttler> DrBunsen: set the DISPLAY
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2541[16:09:26] <vimpulse> nkuttler: #ubuntu is probably one of
the busiest channels on Freenode. Someone there might know, or
hron84's message might get lost in the din.
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2542[16:09:51] <DrBunsen> th0r: my other cronjobs don't
require that? and do you mean like"0 * * * * /bin/sh
/home/koen/wallpaper.sh &" ?
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2543[16:09:55] <vimpulse> hron84: But, if #ubuntu-app-devel is no
help, #ubuntu-devel surely can direct you to the correct channel
though.
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2544[16:10:01] <DrBunsen> nkuttler: what do you mena?
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2545[16:10:03] <DrBunsen> mean*
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2546[16:10:28] <nkuttler> DrBunsen: cron runs outside of the x
server
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2548[16:10:48] <hron84> vimpulse: i cross-posted my question to
all of these channels. I hope they'll help. Thanks for your
assistance.
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2549[16:11:06] <nkuttler> DrBunsen: try DISPLAY=:0 cmd, or set it
in your script
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2551[16:11:12] <vimpulse> hron84: including to #ubuntu-devel?
without warning them that you crossposted? ugh.
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2552[16:11:46] <vimpulse> hron84: I am glad I was able to point
you elsewhere, and am sad about your crossposting.
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2554[16:12:04] <hron84> vimpulse: i hate this limitation of IRC
that I cannot just crosslink messages
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2555[16:12:22] <hron84> vimpulse: and i don't know irc
enough to how to do this more effectively.
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2556[16:12:22] <nkuttler> and irc users hate crossposters
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2561[16:12:43] <hron84> then they should be online on all
affected channel.
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2564[16:13:03] <nkuttler> let's talk about debian
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2566[16:13:17] <th0r> DrBunsen, nkuttler is right. looked up my
script for doing that...it says */10 * * * * DISPLAY=:0.0
/usr/bin/xfdesktop --reload
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2567[16:13:58] <hron84> nkuttler: btw, on debian (debian 8) do
you have any idea what "binary build with no binary artifacts
found" means? I cannot find a resource (nor debian nor ubuntu
one) to figure out what is the exact problem.
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2569[16:14:39] <vimpulse> hron84: When I feel that I really must
crosspost on IRC, I like to tell each channel that the message is a
crosspost.
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2570[16:14:40] <vimpulse> hron84: But it may be better to avoid
crossposting at all, if at all possible. If you earn others'
goodwill, you may get more answers faster.
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2572[16:14:50] <DrBunsen> th0r: you got 0.0? but I added
display=:0 to the bash script, now to set an early wallpaper change
moment
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2577[16:15:06] <nkuttler> DrBunsen: DISPLAY, not display
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2581[16:15:23] <DrBunsen> nkuttler: I copy pasted it, so no
worries ;)
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2582[16:15:39] <hron84> vimpulse: okay, but what is the
alternative of crossposting? I need the soluton in relative short
time, i have no time for sitting on this problem for months.
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2584[16:15:49] <th0r> DrBunsen, that is what my note says. had it
running years ago, not using it now.
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2585[16:16:17] <vimpulse> hron84: Dunno. IRC doesn't take
months. Have patience.
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2586[16:16:17] <vimpulse> hron84: Or you can pay me $50/hour to
SSH in and take a look, if you like.
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2588[16:17:10] <hron84> vimpulse: I would but I cannot. If we go
on this way, it will take really months to get a financial decision
from the company i work for.
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2589[16:17:13] <vimpulse> DrBunsen: Press Ctrl+Alt+F1, and run
your Bash script from there. See if it works.
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2590[16:17:13] <vimpulse> DrBunsen: Important tip! Remember that
you must press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get out of the virtual console. If you
forget that key combination, you may be stuck there all day.
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2593[16:17:51] <vimpulse> hron84: your company takes months to
decide whether or not to hire a consultant for a small amount of
work?
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2595[16:18:19] <hron84> vimpulse: but regardless on this, i agree
they're helping in their free time, but... how can i say it on
PC way... not all channels include all users from all other
channels. So, if somoene sits on only one channel (in this case on
#ubuntu-devel or #debian) what is te way for share same questions
between channels without crossposting?
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2599[16:18:42] <nkuttler> !ot
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2600[16:18:42] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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2602[16:19:05] <DrBunsen> th0r. nkuttler * * * * * DISPLAY=:0.0
/home/koen/wallpaper.sh & did the trick, thanks
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2606[16:19:48] <th0r> DrBunsen, took me a while to get it
right...hence the archived note
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2609[16:20:10] <Downer> what happened to debian testing, aptitude
wants to upgrade 1/3 of my installed packages (almost 500) :\
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2610[16:20:10] <hron84> vimpulse: first, i will get an answer
"you should do it", and it will take a week to force them
to solve. But... we went too far on this way. It is a question about
dpkg. Just a question. I will not ask my boss to hire a consultant
just because some Debian people hate Ubuntu people. This would be
make me ridiculous.
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2611[16:20:26] <nkuttler> Downer: sounds pretty normal, also /msg
dpkg debian-next
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2614[16:20:58] <nkuttler> hron84: please take it to -offtopic, or
somewhere else
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2616[16:21:05] <DrBunsen> th0r: I am sure to write this down as
well
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2621[16:21:50] <vimpulse> Downer: Why are you using Debian
Testing at all? Just curious.
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2624[16:22:30] <Downer> vimpulse: i needed it (for some reason)
when i built the server years ago...
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2625[16:22:38] <nkuttler> server? eh..
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2627[16:22:54] <nkuttler> Downer: if that was years ago your
testing became stable somewhen..
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2629[16:22:57] <greycat> Testing from "years ago" would
probably be, like, wheezy or jessie now. Yes?
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2630[16:23:00] <vimpulse> Downer: You can upgrade from an older
Debian Testing to a newer Debian Stable.
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2636[16:23:26] <vimpulse> nkuttler: if sources.list says
"testing" then I think you may stay on testing forever.
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2637[16:23:31] <greycat> As long as you never pulled any new
"testing" packages after the jessie freeze.
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2638[16:23:34] <nkuttler> vimpulse: obviously
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2641[16:24:03] <Downer> i have "testing" all over my
sources.list :)
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2642[16:24:23] <greycat> That's a really bad idea on a
server.
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2643[16:24:24] <vimpulse> Downer: If you need one or two packages
from testing, you can get them from the backports repository, or you
can backport them yourself. That way you never have to upgrade your
server to run a full Debian Testing system.
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2645[16:25:06] <vimpulse> hron84: I am in #debian-offtopic now.
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2646[16:25:24] <Downer> vimpulse: yeah, but as i said, when i
installed it i needed too many packages from testing (and
dependencies and dependencies on the dependencies) so i just went
full on testing
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2648[16:25:53] <jhutchins> I once inherited a server that had
packages from five different releases on it.
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2649[16:25:59] <vimpulse> Downer: You still probably
shouldn't have used the word "testing" in your
sources.list file. You can upgrade to testing without using that
word.
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2650[16:26:02] <greycat> If testing was "will be
jessie" at the time, then you should have used
"jessie" in your sources.list so you would converge on
jessie as it became stable, insetad of being in perpetual surprise
land.
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2652[16:26:31] <vimpulse> Downer: You can still fix your
sources.list so that you'll move to stable when it's
ready. Please do so now, then tell us when you're done!
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2654[16:26:42] <Downer> it was etch or lenny...
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2655[16:27:24] <Downer> greycat: i am a gentoo user. surprise
land is where i thrive :D
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2658[16:27:57] * greycat still hasn't upgraded his OpenVZ VPS past
wheezy
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2660[16:28:05] <zebulon1st> where are the USB ports settings
file(s) : I have to remove the auto-sleep option to one of them.
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2664[16:29:06] <vimpulse> zebulon1st: If you didn't get an
answer to your real question, please ask it again. Please don't
ask your auto-sleep question based on a guess at what's wrong.
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2666[16:29:32] <n4dir> obviously it is not where you thrive,
Downer, else you wouldn't have asked about it here.
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2668[16:29:52] <sobczyk> hello, I've hit a debootstrap bug,
where it installs "some" version of packages (not the
latest), and fails (because dpkg expects latest), is it desired
behaviour
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2669[16:29:57] <Downer> n4dir: i was just curious, never seen it
do that before.
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2671[16:30:38] <vimpulse> Downer: If you do silly things such as
write "testing" in your sources.list, then please be
responsible and fix it. That way you can prevent wasting our time
unnecessarily in future.
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2672[16:30:38] <vimpulse> Downer: Once you've fixed it, then
please let us know. :)
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2673[16:30:39] <Downer> n4dir: asking about things you dont
understand is the way to learn.
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2674[16:31:01] <Downer> vimpulse: am i wasting your time?
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2675[16:31:01] <vimpulse> zebulon1st: If you don't get an
answer, re-ask elsewhere. For example, you could ask in
linux or at < ##replaced-url
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2676[16:31:04] <n4dir> And mainly on a server
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2677[16:31:07] <vimpulse> Downer: Indirectly, perhaps.
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2678[16:31:14] <Downer> wow ok.
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2679[16:31:25] <Downer> sorry to have bothered you
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2681[16:31:30] <Downer> :\
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2682[16:31:39] <vimpulse> Downer: "Sorry" is worth
nothing if you refuse to make the config change.
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2683[16:31:49] <Roland-> Hi, is there a way to get a newer
qemu-kvm package?
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2684[16:31:58] <vimpulse> Downer: And, if you make the config
change, "Sorry" is perhaps unnecessary.
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2685[16:32:05] <vimpulse> Roland-: Hi! Why?
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2686[16:32:15] <greycat> Newer than what? Why?
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2687[16:32:33] <Roland-> I am having some serious issues with
guests vms, and I don't have those issues on centos , same
hardware and guests
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2689[16:32:46] <greycat> And those problems are...?
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2690[16:32:54] <vimpulse> Roland-: Also: What's the host OS?
What's the guest OS?
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2691[16:33:09] <vimpulse> Roland-: If you ask a too-short
question (as you did), you just create extra typing work for us. :)
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2693[16:34:31] <Roland-> host os is debian jessie, guest is
server 2012 r2
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2695[16:34:39] <Roland-> the server hangs from time to time
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2696[16:34:49] <Roland-> (guest) no errors just hangs.
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2697[16:35:14] <Roland-> so I would like to try a different qemu
version since the kernel and qemu are the only things that differ
between hosts
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2698[16:35:31] <vimpulse> /me likes asking basic questions.
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2699[16:35:31] <vimpulse> Roland-: Why not run Windows Server on
a bare-metal box?
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2703[16:35:48] <Roland-> vimpulse ok nevermind
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2704[16:35:51] <n4dir> Roland-: in jessie backports is a newer
version, same as in testing, it seems:
replaced-url
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2705[16:35:56] <Roland-> I have no idea what kind of question is
that.
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2706[16:36:02] <greycat> ,v qemu-kvm
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2707[16:36:03] <judd> Package: qemu-kvm on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u12; wheezy-security: 1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u18;
wheezy-backports: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u5a~bpo70+1; jessie-security:
1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u6; jessie: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u6;
jessie-backports: 1:2.7+dfsg-3~bpo8+2; sid: 1:2.7+dfsg-3+b1;
stretch: 1:2.7+dfsg-3+b1
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2708[16:36:15] <vimpulse> Roland-: It's pretty basic. But
I'm curious to know the answer anyway.
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2710[16:36:22] <greycat> So yes, you can try the jessie-backports
version, but "throwing larger numbers at it" rarely solves
problems.
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2715[16:37:37] <Roland-> vimpulse ok: 1. the host has 64G of ram
and that guest won't need as much 2. because we are in 2016 3.
so we can migrate that guest within the hosts. 3 etc
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2718[16:39:09] <jelly> Downer: currently installed versions of
key packages like dpkg libc6 base-files will point to the release
closest to whatever your system is running
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2721[16:40:17] <jelly> Downer: keeping an alias like
"stable" or "testing in sources is a horrible idea.
It was sadly a default for many years, fixed around Debian 6 or so
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2722[16:40:33] <Roland-> ah yes and another reason vimpulse, rack
space is expensive.
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2723[16:40:36] <vimpulse> Roland-: Fair.
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2724[16:40:36] <vimpulse> Roland-: Who knows? Maybe you can
indeed fix your problem by switching packages around. Have you ever
tried virtualbox? It's been in Debian for years now.
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2726[16:40:55] <Downer> jelly: yeah, i understand. this server is
from that time
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2727[16:41:07] <Roland-> I would love to use virtualbox but this
is a server and requires some features that are not available
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2728[16:41:18] <vimpulse> Roland-: Which?
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2729[16:41:30] <Downer> jelly: i'll put stretch in there
instead and it will be sorted in a year or so :)
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2730[16:41:44] <vimpulse> Downer: OK, let us know once
you've done so!
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2732[16:42:08] <vimpulse> Downer: (I don't mean let us know
once a year has passed. Instead, I mean let us know once the config
change is done.)
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2733[16:42:18] <jelly> Downer: "stretch" is not a good
idea if your installation is closer to squeeze or wheezy or jessie
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2734[16:42:58] <jelly> Downer: pastebin the output of, say,
"dpkg -l dpkg apt base-files libc6 libssl\*"
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2735[16:43:16] <vimpulse> hron84: Come join me in
#debian-offtopic perhaps?
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2736[16:43:19] <Roland-> live migration with fencing, failover,
etc
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2737[16:43:28] <vimpulse> Roland-: Fair.
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2738[16:43:41] <Downer> ii apt 1.3.1 amd64 commandline package
manager
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2739[16:43:44] <Downer> ii base-files 9.6 amd64 Debian base
system miscellaneous files
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2740[16:43:47] <Downer> ii dpkg 1.18.10 amd64 Debian package
management system
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2741[16:43:50] <Roland-> I will see if newer qemu does something
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2742[16:43:50] <Downer> ii libc6:amd64 2.24-5 amd64 GNU C
Library: Shared libraries
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2743[16:43:53] <Downer> un libssl <none> <none> (no
description available)
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2744[16:43:56] <Downer> ii libssl-dev:amd64 1.0.2j-1 amd64 Secure
Sockets Layer toolkit - development files
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2745[16:43:59] <Downer> ii libssl-doc 1.0.2j-1 all Secure Sockets
Layer toolkit - development documentation
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2746[16:44:00] <teraflops> Downer: stop
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2747[16:44:02] <Downer> rc libssl0.9.8 0.9.8o-7 amd64 SSL shared
libraries
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2748[16:44:05] <Downer> un libssl096-dev <none>
<none> (no description available)
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2749[16:44:08] <Downer> ii libssl1.0.0:amd64 1.0.2d-1 amd64
Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared libraries
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2750[16:44:11] <teraflops> !kick Downer
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2751[16:44:11] * dpkg kicks Downer in the ass.
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2752[16:44:11] <Downer> ii libssl1.0.2:amd64 1.0.2j-1 amd64
Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared libraries
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2754[16:44:20] <Downer> whops :)
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2756[16:44:36] <teraflops> use
replaced-url
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2757[16:44:50] <Downer> teraflops: yeah, sorry about that.
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2758[16:44:52] <greycat> I think we have enough info that he
doesn't need to repeat it again on paste.debian.net.
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2759[16:44:53] <teraflops> np
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2760[16:44:58] <teraflops> hehe
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2761[16:45:13] <greycat> "stretch" is the best fit for
him.
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2763[16:45:14] <jelly> that's ruined enogh to be called
stretch
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2764[16:45:23] <n4dir> Roland-: you might wanna thing about what
greycat said (So yes, you can try the jessie-backports version, but
"throwing larger numbers at it" rarely solves problems.)
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2765[16:45:24] <Downer> :)
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2766[16:45:34] <Downer> thanks guys
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2770[16:46:39] <jelly> the fact there used to be a libssl0.9.8
>= 0.9.8o-5~ installed means the system used "testing"
back when _wheezy_ was testing
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2771[16:46:45] <Roland-> well if it's not that then
it's very hard for me to troubleshoot.
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2773[16:47:30] <Downer> jelly: hah, well yeah. its been a while
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2782[16:49:16] <n4dir> Roland-: if it isn't a problem which
is known to exist in one version and not in the other ... i guess
you got my point. (Not saying i wouldn't try it myself)
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2786[16:51:30] <hron84> vimpulse: if you wanna talk about why i
don't hire an accountant for a single question, not. If you
have a solution for my problem, yes.
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2789[16:53:02] <vimpulse> hron84: All I say is, you are invited
there.
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2801[16:57:53] <Roland-> well I have two hosts serving the same
machine, one centos and one debian, centos runs fine, debian hangs.
same exact servers/specs (dell r330)
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2805[16:59:38] <petemc> Roland-: serving what? hanging how?
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2806[16:59:53] <greycat> 10:34 Roland-> host os is debian
jessie, guest is server 2012 r2
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2810[17:01:24] <Roland-> simply hangs, and I have to virsh reset
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2834[17:09:25] <vimpulse> hron84: Please ask me for permission
before private messaging!
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2868[17:19:36] <exaways> Hello. I am still having troubles
getting debian working. The installation worked fine except for the
bootloader. The installer gave me no clues why it failed to install
grub. - I can boot debian live. - I would like to install grub
manually but in the bootsequence _after_ refind. Of course I
googled. Found to much info. confused I am now.
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2892[17:32:07] <exaways> So following this:
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2893[17:32:07] <exaways>
replaced-url
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2894[17:32:07] <exaways> I should use that:
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2895[17:32:07] <exaways>
replaced-url
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2896[17:32:07] <exaways> Is this correct?
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2937[17:47:20] <dm_comp> So I on the packages page of debian and
I see "dep: libacl1 (>= 2.2.51-8) [not hurd-i386,
kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386]". not sure the meaning of
"not hurd-i386"
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2943[17:47:53] <greycat> My first guess: "not" applies
to the entire list, not just the first item in the list.
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2948[17:48:33] <dm_comp> humm
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2962[17:54:50] <dm_comp> can you elaborate, I'm still
confused on what the [...] is for? like [not alpha, hurd-i386]
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2964[17:56:08] <dm_comp> nevermind, I see :)
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2986[18:08:14] <rafalcpp> anyone here has access to strong
workstation, and could run an iperf localhost test for me? iperf -V
-s -m and iperf -V -c ::1 -m -l 1000
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really a limit of ~ 0.5 Gbps even on localhost, on sending from
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3089[18:46:38] <squigz> missmbob: hey, just figured I'd fill
you in on what happened: installed jessie, initially my VGA display
wasn't working again, however after installing
firmware-linux-nonfree, it started working. Not sure what happened
before, I guess I must've missed that package... :P Thanks for
all your help
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3093[18:47:20] <squigz> I hope this driver will play nicely with
my games, I don't want to have to switch to fglrx and break
everything again
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3201[19:36:34] <gebruiker> is there an easy way to install XAMPP
on debian jessie using apt-get?
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3215[19:39:57] <somiaj> gebruiker: I don't know what XAMPP
is and not getting any results with apt-cache search xampp. If a
package is not provided by the debian repo, it will take some work
as you will have to either compile it yourself or find a thrid party
repo, which usually are not designed for debian so be careful.
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3219[19:41:55] <gebruiker> somiaj:
replaced-url
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3222[19:42:37] <greycat> If it's an apache module, you
probably need to install some apache -dev package in order to build
it.
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3223[19:42:56] <somiaj> it is some wrapper, just isntall apache +
php + mariadb (the perl will be in the base)
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3225[19:43:21] <somiaj> debian provides all the packages listed,
it just provide them in some unified installer.
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3230[19:45:15] <somiaj> I personally wouldn't install what
you linked due to security concerns. Use the packages provided by
debian, you may just have to do a little extra work to integrate
them into your server.
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3231[19:46:08] <greycat> oh, there's a factoid
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3232[19:46:09] <greycat> !xampp
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3233[19:46:09] <dpkg> XAMPP for Linux (formerly LAMPP) is a way
of installing lots of software that is already packaged for Debian.
Don't use XAMPP, instead use aptitude install apache2 php5
libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql mysql-server gettext perl
libapache2-mod-perl2 sqlite webalizer mcrypt expat proftpd libpng3
libjpeg62 ... actually, just ask me about <search>.
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3234[19:46:13] <gebruiker> yeah that makes sense
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3236[19:46:40] <somiaj> seems that factoid is a little otudated,
you can choose to use mysql or mariadb in debian.
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3302[20:09:12] <Kobaz> hey... how would i install hplip without
also bringing in systemd ?
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3316[20:13:46] <jelly> Kobaz: it shouldn't bring in systemd
at all, if you have sysvinit in place it ought to pick systemd-shim
instead
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3317[20:13:53] <jelly> !bat
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3318[20:13:54] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
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3319[20:14:15] <jelly> Kobaz: pastebin the whole output of
apt-get -s install hplip
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3320[20:14:52] <Kobaz> apt-get install hplip The following extra
packages will be installed: libpam-systemd libpolkit-agent-1-0
libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libsystemd0 policykit-1
printer-driver-postscript-hp systemd
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3321[20:14:53] <Kobaz> k
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3322[20:14:53] <jelly> Kobaz: your OS is debian 8 (jessie),
right?
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3323[20:14:57] <Kobaz> jessie
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3326[20:15:24] <greycat> What procedure did you use to opt out of
systemd?
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3327[20:15:34] <Kobaz> apt-get install sysvinit
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3329[20:15:38] <Kobaz> and apt-get remove all the systemd* stuff
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3330[20:15:47] <greycat> That's not how you do it.
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3332[20:15:56] <greycat> !jessie sysvinit
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3333[20:15:57] <dpkg> To use an init system other than systemd in
jessie, install the systemd-shim package (for logind) and remove the
systemd-sysv package: aptitude install systemd-shim sysvinit-core
systemd-sysv-. To stick with sysvinit for wheezy->jessie
upgrades, follow the pinning advice in the release notes:
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3334[20:15:59] <Kobaz>
replaced-url
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3335[20:16:42] <jelly> that's not the complete ouput
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3337[20:17:02] <Kobaz> okay so the shim is what i want
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3338[20:17:04] <Kobaz> okay that works
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3339[20:17:17] <Kobaz> yay, i can print again
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