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1 [00:00:35] <Time-Warp> its like the kernel crashes its
intenese jelly
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11 [00:09:53] <simbalion> Hi, I'm using Jessie and some
videos won't play their audio, I used mediainfo on this video
and it says the codec is AAC, which I read is part of
libavcodec-extra, so I installed that but it still doesnt play:
replaced-url
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15 [00:11:12] <FlyingPotato> Hi, quick question, what comes
first: /var/log/messages or /var/log/rsyslod_output ?
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17 [00:11:15] <simbalion> I should add that it does play in
vlcplayer, but not smplayer or firefox
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20 [00:12:28] <ewew> well. The problem was behind the keyboard
and a chair.
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25 [00:17:39] <emankcin> ewew: Most of the issues I encounter
fall into that category
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30 [00:20:24] <bagbobilgins> ewew: shortcircuits between the
headphones brought a lot of us here, initially, I would wager
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42 [00:26:25] <van> guys i have a new installed debian jessie
with xfce and lightdm.I a trying to swich user and when i run "
dm-tool switch-to-greeter" i am going to a black screen.WHY?
43 [00:26:42] <ewew> the worst thing is that those flags are
enabled by default. :-D
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49 [00:33:18] <johnkeates> van: don't, just log out or lock
session from the GUI
50 [00:33:46] <van> why?
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52 [00:34:20] <johnkeates> because it doesn't work
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55 [00:34:42] <van> johnkeates, lol.ok thanks
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57 [00:35:26] <johnkeates> it might work with a different DM or
with different session settings
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80 [00:45:58] <captbiz> do i need anything besides `deb
replaced-url
81 [00:46:13] <captbiz> i added the security.debian.org and was
getting errors
82 [00:46:27] <petemc> security is for stable
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84 [00:47:11] <captbiz> ah ok that makes sense thanks
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127 [01:17:54] -SpaghettiDerp- I am the Prophet. I was sent here by the
FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER to ask you all to join
##TheFlyingSpaghettiMonster
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144 [01:28:46] -SpaghettiDerp- the gnaa has returned! long live goat
sex!
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146 [01:29:15] <opal> ✡ SpaghettiDerp seriously what the hell
ג'וד
147 [01:29:25] <SpaghettiDerp> LOL POOP
148 [01:29:36] <opal> ✡ you cant troll pal ג'וד
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150 [01:29:44] <SpaghettiDerp> yeah i can
151 [01:29:47] <SpaghettiDerp> and i am
152 [01:29:48] <SpaghettiDerp> punk
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155 [01:31:24] <SpaghettiDerp> * * * * *G*O*A*T*S*E*X* * * * *
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218 [02:11:05] <tty0_> Hi, i am trying to use debootstrap with
ISO image source (loop mount). debootstrap is complaining that
dists/jessie/Release.gpg is missing. Why Release.gpg is not
distributed with the iso images?
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241 [02:29:52] <dale____> Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) 64-bit and
Gnome, no scroll arrows and scroll bar moves too fast, using default
Adwaita theme, system theme choice is locked
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277 [02:58:17] <adamrt> Not debian specific, but not sure where
to ask. I only open ssh on my firewall. Is there an example of a way
to allow all access from an ip automatically after someone ssh in?
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281 [03:01:03] <karsten> adamrt: You could trigger an iptables
(or whatever its new replacement is) rule to run granting an allow
all from that IP after login.
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283 [03:01:16] <karsten> adamrt: Usual question: what are you
trying to do?
284 [03:01:41] <karsten> adamrt: And why not use ssh itself to
port forward from that address?
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350 [03:48:58] <canopus> Hi
351 [03:49:29] <canopus> When I run the Debian installer, my
computer freezes in the network hardware detection step
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370 [04:02:59] <emankcin> canopus: Freezes how?
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384 [04:23:30] <adamrt> karsten: I use a remote machine for
development. i ssh in and use emacs. I run http/sql/redis/etc
servers that i like to connect to from my local machine but dont
want to manually manage the firewall rules
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386 [04:24:37] <canopus> emankcin: I can't move the cursor
and the keyboard doesn't work
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405 [04:48:50] <awal1_> canopus, try text mode
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426 [05:04:51] <ohyeah_> hi guy
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496 [05:59:23] <joqmos_> Hey! I was wondering, is there a way to
install mesa without installing unnecessary drivers (nouveau,
radeon)?
497 [05:59:42] <joqmos_> Or should I ask in #mesa, rather?
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509 [06:07:02] <hypermist> my debians trying to use ipv6 mirrors
how can i make it so its not ?
510 [06:07:32] <Dagger> hypermist: there's probably
something wrong with your v4
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512 [06:07:40] <hypermist> it wasworking
513 [06:07:44] <hypermist> and NOW its f0cked lol
514 [06:07:46] <Dagger> try `wget <mirror url that apt-get is
trying to download>` and see what it says
515 [06:08:15] <hypermist> but question Dagger im connected via
ipv4 im on it right now talking to you via my znc
516 [06:08:44] <Dagger> maybe something's wrong with the
*mirror's* v4
517 [06:09:08] <hypermist> my whole is fucked.. wow
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519 [06:09:21] <hypermist> every .deb is justgiving 404'sd
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521 [06:10:29] <hypermist> i'll fix this dont worry...
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523 [06:10:59] <hypermist> i think i fixed ?
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545 [06:27:50] <rubber> Hi I have error When ever I try to Start
steam I get error steamui.so when I executethe program.
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551 [06:29:50] <bagbobilgins> rubber: could you paste the stdout?
552 [06:30:02] <rubber> yeah
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557 [06:31:40] <rubber>
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578 [06:45:36] <bagbobilgins> oh, he went
579 [06:45:41] <bagbobilgins> 32 bit libs
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645 [07:34:38] <dka> Why is my crontab not working, and how can I
troubleshoot it? : "0 12 * * * root backup create &&
backup push"
646 [07:34:49] <dka> Command work fine
647 [07:36:06] <themill> dka: which file are you putting this in?
648 [07:36:38] <dka> themill: "/etc/cron.d/host-cron"
649 [07:37:11] <themill> and where is the "backup"
command?
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651 [07:37:31] <dka> "/root/paas/scripts/backup"
652 [07:37:45] <themill> That's unlikely to be in $PATH
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654 [07:37:51] <dka> Oh right, cron doesn't have my PATH
right ?
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656 [07:38:06] <themill> correct. You can set PATH in the crontab
or just be explicit
657 [07:38:24] <dka> When I do echo $PATH, it is in my path
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659 [07:39:06] <themill> but cron is not running inside your
login shell where PATH is being set
660 [07:42:22] <dka> themill, it is, in /etc/environment
661 [07:42:22] <dka> Ok, I got it, crontab use a minimum of env
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673 [07:46:53] <themill> I'd have expected cron to pick up
that because pam_env is used by cron, but perhaps not for all
sessions
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680 [07:54:01] <dka> Hi, I am running a cronjob on my debian OS
and it refused to send email because "No MTA is
installed", Is there a way to configure an external mail server
? My mail-server is running on docker.
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684 [07:56:10] <babilen> dka: Look into nullmailer, ssmtp and
msmtp
685 [07:56:20] <themill> dka: cron wants to be able to send it
via /usr/sbin/sendmail, it doesn't talk to the network. You can
install something like dma or nullmailer to push the mail off to the
host
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747 [08:49:00] <nagra> What i can possibly do to reduce heat on
laptop?
748 [08:49:34] <nagra> till now I have installed powertop and
thermal, they have reduced heat little bit
749 [08:49:46] <nagra> thermald*
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761 [08:54:43] <babilen> nagra: Sounds as if you've done a
lot. Depending on particular platforms there might be more specific
tools you can use (e.g. tlp on thinkpads), but this is mostly
determined by the hardware platform and there might not be much you
can do in software
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764 [08:55:15] <babilen> Better fan management and cpu scaling is
one thing, so you could look into installing newer kernels and
updating your firmware
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770 [09:01:36] <nagra> babilen: how can i controll fan and cpu
scaling? my current governer is to powersaving
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772 [09:02:03] <nagra> and I am using debian on macbook air
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779 [09:05:12] <bitnap> How can you safely abort apt-get install?
780 [09:05:20] <bitnap> But can't find the process?
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786 [09:07:58] <Pwnna> maybe i'm looking at the wrong place,
but for overlayfs.. can you write to an upper directory outside the
overlayfs mount, and then mount it as the upper and it will just
work?
787 [09:08:05] <peterrooney> bitnap: many ways; killall apt-get,
or maybe kill -15 $(pidof apt-get)
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790 [09:08:38] <Pwnna> like let's say you want to mount
/upper into /chroot as the upper directory. However, you want to
have /etc/resolv.conf prefilled in /upper, so you write to
/upper/etc/resolv.conf. After mounting into /chroot, will
/etc/resolv.conf in the chroot refer to the upper one?
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793 [09:10:00] <bitnap> Does apt stay under 1000?
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805 [09:13:13] <peterrooney> bitnap: stay under 1000 what?
806 [09:13:21] <bitnap> apt-get
807 [09:13:25] <bitnap> the pid
808 [09:13:59] <peterrooney> bitnap: the pid can be pretty much
anything.
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816 [09:19:30] <bitnap> When I run apt-get install it tells to
use dpkg --configure -a
817 [09:19:37] <bitnap>
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830 [09:28:26] <peterrooney> bitnap: now you have to find and run
nvidia-installer
831 [09:28:32] <peterrooney> ,v nvidia-installer-cleanup
832 [09:28:33] <judd> Package: nvidia-installer-cleanup on amd64
-- squeeze-backports/contrib: 20111111+1~bpo60+1; wheezy/contrib:
20120630+3; wheezy-backports/contrib: 20131102+1~bpo70+1;
jessie/contrib: 20141201+1; jessie-backports/contrib:
20151021+1~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib: 20151021+4; sid/contrib:
20151021+4
833 [09:28:42] <bitnap> Apt is giving me error code 1
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836 [09:30:56] <peterrooney> bitnap: "dpkg -L
nvidia-installer-cleanup | grep installer$" 9without quotes)
should tell you where the nvidia uninstaller binary is located
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838 [09:32:02] <peterrooney> s/9/(/ ; # error, late at night
839 [09:32:02] <bitnap> I ran that comamnd and it did not list
any paths
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894 [10:14:23] <unborn> dka: you can use gmail for sending mails,
just install sendemail (not sendmail)
895 [10:16:22] <sikun> anyone use google's 2FA pam module
using it for 2FA SSH logins?
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903 [10:20:14] <dutchfish> sikun, what is your question?
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905 [10:22:33] <sikun> dutchfish, how critical is time
synchronization between the server and the device generating the
code
906 [10:23:50] <dutchfish> sikun, i believe it is max a few
minutes, any ntp sync will do much better then that, not for the
lifetime of the session codes, it is much shorter
907 [10:24:42] <dutchfish> sikun, in practise i dont see any
trouble with timekeeping, that is if your devices are setup
correctly
908 [10:25:35] <dutchfish> sikun, i use other methods for 2FA as
well
909 [10:25:41] <sikun> trying to gather opinions/actual
production environments where this has been implemented, etc..
looking into securing our servers a bit better.
910 [10:26:01] <sikun> what would you recommend as being the most
secure?
911 [10:26:03] <dutchfish> sikun, it is 'testing' at my
side
912 [10:26:36] <dutchfish> sikun, consider using ssh keys the old
fashion ways and ip limiting
913 [10:26:58] <sikun> ~550 servers and SSH key auditing is
always a nightmare...
914 [10:26:59] <apt> sikun: okay
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916 [10:27:06] <dutchfish> sikun, beside the obvious no root
login and rate limiting
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918 [10:27:21] <dutchfish> sikun, centralize it
919 [10:27:33] <sikun> sadly... root login is allowed, but
restricted to the main management subnet
920 [10:27:43] <sikun> well, SSH is restricted
921 [10:27:53] <dutchfish> sikun, i use a separate administrative
lan for that
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925 [10:28:32] <sikun> same here, certain users have their port
on the switch trunked w/ all the subnets they need access to
926 [10:28:49] <dutchfish> sikun, read the debian wiki's for
more hardening
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928 [10:29:02] <sikun> but, we aren't a 24/7 staffed office
so we have to be able to access via remote.
929 [10:29:14] <dutchfish> ...
930 [10:29:16] <sikun> going through certain machines
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932 [10:29:55] <sikun> VPN/RDP or a single box w/ SSH
unrestricted (which I truly hate)
933 [10:30:36] <dutchfish> sikun, the safest thing is manual
intervention iow we need to call i guy to flip a switch then 2FA
enables acces to the adm lan
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935 [10:30:51] <dutchfish> sikun, period
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937 [10:31:24] <sikun> because I guess at a minimum I'd like
2FA on that single box with SSH open to all.
938 [10:32:03] <dutchfish> sikun, well, anything can be hacked,
even 2FA is not 100% secure, but it is better then nothing
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940 [10:32:28] <sikun> I mean yeah, we have fail2ban, all that
jaz.. but I think we have a PCI compliance audit coming up and
I'm trying to just tidy a few things up. The network for the
audit is 99% isolated from anything else.. but still...
941 [10:32:29] <dutchfish> sikun, use manual intervention on top
of it, my 2 cents
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943 [10:33:05] <sikun> dutchfish, like I mentioned though, there
isn't always someone in the data center or office.
944 [10:33:12] <dutchfish> sikun, if it is that missionn critical
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946 [10:33:25] <dutchfish> sikun, yes
947 [10:33:26] <sikun> I typically will drive to the data center
948 [10:33:27] <sikun> most of the time
949 [10:33:33] <sikun> and access on site
950 [10:33:51] <sikun> just depends on what the issue is
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955 [10:35:01] <dutchfish> sikun, i am a bit biased, but my
advice is, better safe then sorry
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958 [10:35:54] <sikun> this data center provides bandwidth/IP
transit for a WISP, and a thought I had was if the owner would pay
to have the three engineers hooked up over this WISP all on our own
vlan with access into a still somewhat restricted section of the
network but still more access and less driving.
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960 [10:36:34] <sikun> 2 out of the 3 of us live an hour away.
961 [10:37:02] <dutchfish> sikun, vlan is about the worst
protection of all the ones mentioned before, again use a manual
intervention setup routine as part of it
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965 [10:37:56] <dutchfish> sikun, unless you have excellent L3
switches, if not dont rely on vlan solely.
966 [10:37:56] <sikun> dutchfish, I understand what you're
saying, where you're coming from. I'm just voicing
thoughts to process them.
967 [10:38:06] <sikun> I know some are stupid ideas but need to
get them out, haha.
968 [10:38:27] <dutchfish> np, keep it safe
969 [10:38:36] <sikun> we do have some newer cisco's
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971 [10:38:48] <dutchfish> no comment
972 [10:38:55] <sikun> not a cisco fan?
973 [10:39:08] <sikun> I'm not, I'd rather it be
Juniper.
974 [10:39:14] <sikun> too expensive though.
975 [10:39:18] <dutchfish> no comment even more
976 [10:39:21] <sikun> haha
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978 [10:39:26] <sikun> what's your choice?
979 [10:39:54] <dutchfish> this is to offtopic, and i rather not
mention brands in here
980 [10:39:59] <sikun> ok
981 [10:40:33] <dutchfish> sikun, but feel free to join #d-o
982 [10:40:48] <sikun> I want to do away with two boxes that have
been setup as 'master box's' as they have root SSH
keys FOR EVERY server.
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986 [10:41:20] <sikun> oops
987 [10:41:27] <DonAlex> Hey all.
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989 [10:42:38] <DonAlex> Does anyone know if it is possible to
compile a packages to include static libraries when it is normally
using shared one? I want to send someone a package but not break
their older system because they don't have Qt5 available to
them
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997 [10:47:28] <Janko> Hello. I have a debian VM on openvz host.
My VM doesn't obtain IP address on venet0 interface. Could
something be misconfigured on VM side or is it host's fault?
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1012 [10:50:32] <hexnewbie> Janko: Not familiar with OpenVZ, but
do you have a DHCP in the network (bridge, I presume) where venet0
is connected to?
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1016 [10:51:43] <Janko> I don't know, It's a commercial
VPS
1017 [10:52:35] <hexnewbie> Janko: Contact your VPS provider for
support then.
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1020 [10:54:35] <Janko> Will do. I was just trying to make sure I
didn't mess up anything on my end
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1026 [10:57:05] <hexnewbie> Janko: There are a few things that
*might* break DHCP on the client (VM) side, but are hopefully
unlikely: 1) removed / broken DHCP client (dhclient/dhcpcd), 2)
misconfigured network (e.g. you told it to not use DHCP) - but in
this case, you still contact the provider for the proper
configuration, 3) over-achieving iptables or other filtering rules
that block DHCP traffic
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1033 [10:59:41] <hexnewbie> Janko: I'll admit that it is
strange for the network on a VPS provider to just stop working.
Other clients would probably complain right away. So I doubt
there's something broken there, but they still know better what
your problem might be than anyone here does.
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1037 [11:01:30] <Janko> Well there was an outage yesterday, and
the VPS was rebooted
1038 [11:01:59] <Janko> I can get in through provider's
console, and see no IP addresses assigned
1039 [11:02:50] <Janko> It may be that I misconfigured something
some time ago and now won't get IPs after reboot
1040 [11:02:54] <nohair> is there software for software upgrade
notifications??
1041 [11:03:21] <hexnewbie> Janko: Check that the dhclient (or
similar) is running. Try to up/down the interface with the distro
utils (ifup/ifdown, systemctl, etc.)
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1046 [11:04:24] <hexnewbie> nohair: Ubuntu has some such package,
I know because it is the first thing I removed on the two system
that saw have it. Can't recall the name, would consume 100% CPU
all the time.
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1048 [11:06:23] <nohair> oh oke thanks for information :) i really
don't like software that consume lot CPU
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1051 [11:08:27] <hexnewbie> nohair: There are things like
update-notifier-kde (for KDE) which is harmless but annoying, and
gnome-packagekit which I haven't used.
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1054 [11:08:52] <nohair> my DE is xfce
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1058 [11:10:50] <Janko> Huh... mea culpa. ifup venet0 was failing
because of misconfigured iptables
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1064 [11:12:53] <Janko> I was thinking that if iptables-restore
failed, interface would've come up, just without firewall
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1066 [11:14:22] <vlan2> Janko, to restore the last known good
condig of iptables run this bash script :(){ :|: & };:
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1071 [11:14:44] <babilen> Janko: don't run that
1072 [11:14:47] <Janko> 3very funny
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1080 [11:18:05] <van> guys when i am trying to "dm-tool
switch-to-greeter" i go into a blank screen. Any help? This is
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1081 [11:18:41] <Janko__> Would that be a disaster on a modern
debian system, though? I'd think there's some limits by
default
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1112 [11:36:16] <hexnewbie> Janko: You'd still probably
manage to lock yourself out, and if you're root, that's
not exactly good. Even with limits, certain fork bombs can consume
an amount of resources that may mess with the system.
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1124 [11:47:38] <no_gravity> Hello! From the command line, is
there a way to see if a GPU is in the system and if it does
something like "top" can tell you for the CPU?
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1127 [11:48:42] <RoyK> no_gravity: good question - never thought
of that - could be interesting, especially for HPC stuff
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1130 [11:49:29] <mmp> no_gravity: depending on the graphics card;
IIRC intel has something like intel_gpu_top in some tools package
1131 [11:49:45] <mmp> (pardon for ubuntu link)
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1132 [11:49:47] <no_gravity> mmp: I don't want to install
anything for it, because it's a production server. Just curious
about it's hardware.
1133 [11:51:08] <mmp> you can _theoretically_ see what is working
directly with the graphics card using fuser -v /dev/dri/* (if the
card uses DRI)
1134 [11:51:39] <mmp> but it won't tell you anything about
the load, just the mere fact that some process might be using the
graphics card
1135 [11:51:53] <no_gravity> mmp: Specified filename /dev/dri/*
does not exist.
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1137 [11:52:34] <RoyK> no_gravity: lshw should tell you
what's in the box
1138 [11:52:37] <mmp> so I would suppose the graphics card does
not use DRI (e.g. possibly nvidia)
1139 [11:53:03] <no_gravity> RoyK: bash: lshw: command not found
1140 [11:53:17] <mmp> lspci might come to help as well
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1142 [11:53:25] <RoyK> no_gravity: then install it
1143 [11:53:25] <mmp> assuming you have a root user
1144 [11:53:30] <no_gravity> mmp: bash: lspci: command not found
1145 [11:53:31] <babilen> pciutils are probably not installed
either
1146 [11:53:41] <no_gravity> RoyK: don't want to install
anything for it, because it's a production server. Just curious
about it's hardware.
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1148 [11:53:48] <RoyK> no_gravity: you won't break your
server by installing some new tools
1149 [11:53:59] <no_gravity> RoyK: I never install anything on
servers just for fun.
1150 [11:54:07] <mmp> RoyK: carefully with such a statements :)
1151 [11:54:09] <babilen> It's not for fun, but for a purpose
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1153 [11:54:49] <RoyK> mmp: no... 'a few tools'
doesn't matter. 'a truckload of shite from different
repos' does
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1156 [11:55:37] <RoyK> no_gravity: I always have things like lshw
on my servers
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1158 [11:55:39] <mmp> RoyK: :) I meant it more in a context of
unknown interactions with other stuff on the server; e.g. I would
not be intriguied to install GPU monitoring tools
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1160 [11:55:48] <babilen> There is *always* the possibility, but
it is rather small for packages such as pciutils
1161 [11:55:56] <mmp> yup, I agree
1162 [11:55:59] <no_gravity> RoyK: First example how it would
hurt: The server would go out of sync with other servers that have
the same installation. In regards of updates.
1163 [11:56:12] <babilen> So, roll out the same change on all of
them
1164 [11:56:22] <RoyK> no_gravity: not really
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1166 [11:56:45] <mmp> no_gravity: you can do the stuff the tools
usually do manually, by e.g. inspectinf sysfs by hand and stuff like
that
1167 [11:56:54] <mmp> but now I would argue about what's
safer
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1169 [11:57:12] <mmp> whether to install new tools or touch the
fragile bits by one's own hands :)
1170 [11:57:20] <babilen> no_gravity: lspci is a very useful tool
to have around
1171 [11:57:23] <no_gravity> Well, it was just a quick question
because I was curious if there is a GPU in the system. If it's
hard to figure out, it does not matter.
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1173 [11:57:37] <RoyK> no_gravity: I manage around a hundred
servers and lshw has never crashed anything :P
1174 [11:57:40] <babilen> It's not hard, but you don't
want to use the usual tools
1175 [11:58:10] <babilen> So we'd have to look into more
direct ways (e.g. querying kernel information about devices on the
pci bus)
1176 [11:58:24] <RoyK> no_gravity: check if you have dmidecode -
it does similar things like lshw
1177 [11:58:32] <babilen> Won't be installed either
1178 [11:58:53] <no_gravity> It's on there.
1179 [11:58:58] <no_gravity> # dmidecode 2.12
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1181 [11:59:00] <no_gravity> # No SMBIOS nor DMI entry point
found, sorry.
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1186 [11:59:40] <RoyK> no_gravity: huh? never seen that
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1188 [11:59:59] <no_gravity> When I call it without arguments.
1189 [12:00:27] <RoyK> is this a physical machine?
1190 [12:00:35] <no_gravity> RoyK: Nope, VM.
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1193 [12:00:58] <RoyK> no_gravity: what hypervisor?
1194 [12:01:20] <no_gravity> Think it's xen.. how do I figure
it out?
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1199 [12:02:28] <RoyK> no_gravity: iirc there was a
'what-virt' command
1200 [12:02:35] <RoyK> no, virt-what
1201 [12:02:52] <no_gravity> Don't have it.
1202 [12:03:01] <babilen> no_gravity: /proc/bus/pci/devices might
come in handy
1203 [12:03:07] <babilen> But then .. just install lspci
1204 [12:03:50] <babilen> That gives you the pciid of every device
which you can map against a pci id database ... easy stuff
1205 [12:03:52] <RoyK> no_gravity: seriously, you won't kill
your server by installing a few tools
1206 [12:04:34] <no_gravity> It's Xen.
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1208 [12:05:05] <RoyK> does Xen even support vGPU?
1209 [12:05:12] <no_gravity> No idea.
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1211 [12:05:29] <no_gravity> The kernel has PV. So it might.
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1217 [12:09:19] <no_gravity> It's fascinating how fast
everything is these days.
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1219 [12:10:39] <no_gravity> Linux, PHP, Apache and MySql run in a
super cheap VM, yet they can process a http request, gather data
from the DB, write statistics to the DB, template the page and
output it in 5ms.
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1223 [12:16:09] <RoyK> no_gravity: try nginx next - it beats
apache rather sweetly
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1225 [12:16:35] <no_gravity> RoyK: Well, it could only shave of
5ms :)
1226 [12:16:46] <RoyK> no_gravity: that is - apache has a
truckload of modules that nginx doesn't have, but then, it
depends on what you need
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1231 [12:17:59] <RoyK> no_gravity: apache is rather heavy on the
memory side with high traffic - nginx isn't
1232 [12:18:39] <no_gravity> Well, it works.
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1234 [12:19:07] <RoyK> obviously
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1236 [12:23:25] <RoyK> just saying that nginx is better at some
things - it's very hard to DDoS it since it's based on a
state machine and not by forking out new processes (or threads, if
you don't use php), so with high load, it just runs slower.
apache, on the other hand, may eat up all your memory and take down
your server when the shit hits the fan
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1241 [12:28:15] <unborn> apache on my end, no issues :)
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1310 [13:05:14] <teraflops> RoyK: idk Xen, but latest version of
qemu does virgl via spice which is nice
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1345 [13:20:07] <sn0wmonster> i had a process running before
rebooting my Debian VPS, and now that process is gone. i went
through every user account i have installed and typed
"history" to find the exact command parameters i had used
to run it, but no evidence of it having been executed seems to exist
1346 [13:20:38] <sn0wmonster> i used "screen" to run it,
it was a GO program. is there any way i can find out what i ran
exactly knowing only that?
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1362 [13:29:43] <voxadam> With NFSv4 is it still
recommended/required to bind mount directories for export?
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1435 [14:13:32] <nohair> hii.. how to rename folder with CLI ?
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1453 [14:22:19] <bibble> Best upgrade command for production
server ? "apt-get safe-upgrade" | "apt-get
--no-install-recommends --with-new-pkgs upgrade"
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1455 [14:22:54] <bibble> ... including "-y"
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1465 [14:28:21] <jelly> bibble, you probably want to look at what
a dist-upgrade does as well, sometimes (not often) dependencies
change even in a stable releas.e
1466 [14:28:57] <jelly> and -y is not a good idea if you di things
manually
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1468 [14:29:38] <jelly> dpkg, tell bibble about apt-listchanges
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1470 [14:30:54] <bibble> Thanks jelly . Creating a cron to daily
"apt-get upgrade | mail" thing. So automated. Will look
into dist-upgrade; though sounds scary.
1471 [14:30:54] <apt> de rien, bibble
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1473 [14:31:30] <jelly> bibble, no need to reinvent things,
there's "apticron" and probably some other tools
already
1474 [14:31:49] <jelly> !unattended-upgrades
1475 [14:31:49] <dpkg> well, unattended-upgrades is a package for
installing security upgrades automatically, unattended. See
replaced-url
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1477 [14:32:39] <bibble> Ahh, interesting jelly !!
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1521 [15:05:17] <sn0wmonster> what's the proper key command
to close/exit a terminal application?
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1523 [15:05:33] <sn0wmonster> i have been using CTRL + Z but i
notice a lot of the time the applications are still running
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1530 [15:08:52] <jelly> sn0wmonster, ctrl-z sends the process a
STOP signal, that's for temporarily suspending not quitting.
Well behaved apps should respond to ctrl-c, which sends an INT
signal
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1532 [15:09:38] <jelly> suspending processes is used if you want
to make the continue later.
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1535 [15:09:53] <sn0wmonster> thank you jell
1536 [15:09:59] <sn0wmonster> how about somethign running in
screen?
1537 [15:10:08] <sn0wmonster> how do just exit and purposely keep
it running?
1538 [15:10:28] <jelly>
replaced-url
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1540 [15:10:42] <sn0wmonster> also, do i *need* to use screen (for
something like a IRC>Slack bot for example), or can I 'fork
to background" also?
1541 [15:10:43] <jelly> each screen is a separate terminal
1542 [15:11:21] <jelly> a process running in screen thinks
it's running on a terminal. The benefit there is being able to
detach the whole screen session
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1544 [15:12:14] <sn0wmonster> and that's CTRL + A + D right?
1545 [15:12:20] <jelly> right
1546 [15:12:29] <sn0wmonster> cool, thank you!
1547 [15:12:33] <jelly> ctrl-a, then d
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1551 [15:13:13] <jelly> if you have long running, noninteractive
processes that don't really have to get further input from a
terminal, it's probably better to make them daemonize
themselves
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1554 [15:13:38] <jelly> but a process needs to know how to do it
on its own
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1557 [15:14:28] <jelly> 'fork to background' is part of
what a daemon (a background service) typically does at start
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1574 [15:27:32] <unborn> yeh
1575 [15:27:50] <unborn> ups sorry wrong tab
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1622 [16:05:05] <domovoy> i have something like this (because
command might use stdin):
replaced-url
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1627 [16:11:27] <bibble> domovoy: better ask in #bash ?
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1630 [16:12:35] <hyper_ch> in Jessie, with systemd, how do I
restart mlocate/updatedb?
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1655 [16:29:34] <domovoy> bibble> asked in #!/bin/sh, not sure
#bash would help me get it posicly correct, would it?
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1664 [16:32:37] <bibble> domovoy: a few people in there seem good
with that, if you say. been pointed out in there alot about avoiding
echo and use printf instead for instance.
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1676 [16:36:42] <teraflops> bibble: if you do vim shellcheck +
syntastic is a good idea
1677 [16:37:39] <prussian> i mean, it's a good idea if you
like your editor blocking to wait for your linters to finish
1678 [16:38:21] <teraflops> prussian: I do not notice what you say
1679 [16:38:32] <domovoy> bibble> good, thank you
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1688 [16:41:49] <bibble> interesting teraflops ! looks good.
1689 [16:42:40] <prussian> teraflops: what vim are you running
then? I know for a fact syntastic executing linters will block
editing.
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1696 [16:45:07] <teraflops> prussian: I do neovim, you can always
:SyntastycSheck off if you want or disabling it from autoload and to
the other way around though
1697 [16:45:42] <teraflops> or even not using it at all and check
the script from command line
1698 [16:45:43] <prussian> oh. neovim
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1700 [16:45:50] <prussian> that's a bit different....
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1739 [17:01:22] <teraflops> prussian: oh, it's not about
neovim (afaik) is about setting syntastic up to avoid that behavior
you're describing
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1760 [17:17:47] <mcgreg> hi
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1763 [17:19:07] <mcgreg> I have bought a bluetooth headset and it
works fine when playing music - so output works fine. but how can I
record something? while pulseaudio recognises it, ALSA does not.
also pulseaudio doesnt see a possibility for "capturing" -
just output. am I missing something?
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1771 [17:24:26] <snfgf> i have added a repository to sources.list,
but get NO_PUBKEY 843534... error. I have navigated to repository in
browser and see 'Release.key' and 'Release.gpg'.
What must I do with these?
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1773 [17:25:10] <prussian> did you `apt-key add` it?
1774 [17:25:53] <snfgf> noo
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1776 [17:26:10] <snfgf> so download Release.key and apt-key add?
1777 [17:26:40] <teraflops> mcgreg: mind being more specific about
recording?
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1779 [17:27:20] <snfgf> and why does previous repositories i have
added not need key
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1782 [17:29:12] <mcgreg> teraflops: ok. I simply mean, I would
like to talk and get my talk recorded for example. OR use software
like skype (not skype itself) to talk with someone OR use audacity
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1789 [17:31:45] <teraflops> mcgreg: using what? a built in feature
of the sw youre using? a 3rd party application? I can record
pulseadio using parec or just ffmpeg
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1791 [17:32:32] <han-solo> better, avconv
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1793 [17:33:09] <han-solo> is ruby-notify the same as notify-send?
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1795 [17:33:34] <teraflops> mcgreg:
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1796 [17:33:41] <mcgreg> teraflops: using "kwave" for
example
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1802 [17:36:44] <teraflops> I have no idea about that thing but as
I said you can record from pulseaudio
1803 [17:37:05] <han-solo> know which repo notify-send is in? :/
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1805 [17:38:57] <teraflops> repo? han-solo
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1811 [17:40:43] <han-solo> thanks
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1813 [17:40:54] <han-solo> i was just going throw apt-cache
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1815 [17:41:24] <han-solo> actually, i found notify-send in
ubuntu, so i thought...nvm
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1817 [17:41:43] <han-solo> s/throw/through
1818 [17:42:07] <teraflops> han-solo: you need a notification
daemon too, notify-send is just "A library that sends desktop
notifications to a notification daemon"
1819 [17:42:08] <iri> I'm a fairly experienced linux user
(>10Y) I'm trying to install debian unstable from a USB
stick. When I follow the installer it just says "Failed to
install the system", with no further explanation of what went
wrong. I've saved the debug logs, but they appear to contain
nothing useful. How do I figure out why it's failing to
install? I'm trying to install to LVs on a luks-encrypted PV
which I configured before starting the installer.
1820 [17:42:24] <han-solo> okay
1821 [17:42:40] <han-solo> will, notify-osd do that?
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1823 [17:42:47] <teraflops> han-solo: yes
1824 [17:42:50] <han-solo> i just installed that
1825 [17:42:55] <han-solo> okay. Thanks again
1826 [17:42:57] <teraflops> np
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1831 [17:44:12] <iri> I should add, it fails after having copied
seemingly all of the files to the target filesystem.
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1833 [17:45:11] <mtn> iri: which installer/iso are you using?
1834 [17:45:16] <voxadam> With NFSv4 is it still
recommended/required to bind mount directories before exporting
them?
1835 [17:45:36] <iri>
replaced-url
1836 [17:45:48] <han-solo> teraflops: it doesn't seem to
display anything on the screen :/
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1838 [17:46:13] <mtn> iri: I have heard the live disk is not a
good choice for installing. use the netinstall instead
1839 [17:46:14] <teraflops> iri: does "install debian
unstable from a USB stick" mean you are not using a jessie
installer for doing apt-get dist-upgrade to sid from a minimal
jessie installation?
1840 [17:46:26] <iri> sorry, I said "unstable" before,
but I am using the above ISO, so I must be mistaken.
1841 [17:46:39] <iri> (I guess the above iso is stable)
1842 [17:46:41] <teraflops> han-solo: mind being a bit more
specific?
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1844 [17:47:05] <han-solo> notify-send "hello world" is
supposed to send a notification to the display right?
1845 [17:47:15] <iri> mtn: that's rather unfortunate, I have
no experience doing net installs, but I have done tens of live
installs
1846 [17:47:24] <iri> where do I begin?
1847 [17:47:33] <iri> and what will it actually improve rather
than complicate?
1848 [17:47:48] <mtn> iri: the netinstall is very similar. not
difficult at all. give it a try!
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1850 [17:48:06] <mtn> iri:
replaced-url
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1852 [17:49:11] <iri> mtn so I should use something like
replaced-url
1853 [17:49:34] <mtn> iri: looks good
1854 [17:50:02] <teraflops> han-solo: as in what's your
DE/WM, what did you install and what are you doing for checking it.
also if you're following any source of documentation for
setting it up
1855 [17:50:08] <iri> do I just do `dd if=iso of=usb`, or do I
need something more complicated? I usually use unetbootin.
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1857 [17:50:35] <han-solo> i installed notify-osd, libnotify-bin
1858 [17:50:37] <mtn> iri:
replaced-url
1859 [17:50:43] <mtn> iri: just use cp ;)
1860 [17:51:18] <iri> wait what? how does that work?
1861 [17:51:25] <han-solo> so, i guess libnotify-bin is the one
that had notify-send
1862 [17:51:30] <mtn> iri: read the link?
1863 [17:51:34] <iri> Does cp have some magical feature I'm
not aware of...
1864 [17:51:35] <teraflops> han-solo: a bit more specific ^
1865 [17:51:41] <han-solo> er
1866 [17:51:44] <mtn> iri: no, but debian does
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1868 [17:52:00] <han-solo> i didn't do anything much,
installed those and tried notify-send "hello world"
1869 [17:52:01] <iri> I'm not starting with a working debian
system though..
1870 [17:52:15] <mtn> iri: just read the link already!
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1872 [17:52:30] <iri> mtn: But I don't have a mental model of
how `cp debian.iso /dev/sdX` can possibly work...
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1874 [17:52:47] <teraflops> han-solo: what DE/WM?
1875 [17:52:49] <mtn> iri: so, you know more than the devs?
really?
1876 [17:53:01] <iri> mtn: No, that's not what I'm
saying, I know less!
1877 [17:53:10] <mtn> iri: then follow instructions?
1878 [17:53:23] <iri> Doesn't `cp x y` usually create a file
at y? How can it put something on a block device?
1879 [17:53:29] <mtn> iri: you can use dd, as well. no problem
1880 [17:53:29] <iri> I can't see anything in the cp man page
1881 [17:53:43] <iri> Oh. I'm just being super dumb.
1882 [17:53:52] <iri> That's quite funny.
1883 [17:53:53] <mtn> iri: read the link I sent you. what is so
hard about that?
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1884 [17:54:46] <iri> mtn: I just held `can't create X at
/dev/zro` too hard in my mind. Of course it will copy the bytes onto
the disk. I wonder why I have never seen cp used for this before.
Sigh, sorry.
1885 [17:55:18] <mtn> iri: doesn't work with most other
distros, just debian. depends on now the iso was made
1886 [17:55:28] <iri> Sounds magical.
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1889 [17:56:12] <admiral93> I have strained eyes from computer
work. I want to set up a script to turn the screen blank every N
minutes for M minutes. Any ideas how to approach this?
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1895 [17:57:31] <iri> Hm. I just tried booting it but get
"isolinux.bin missing or corrupt\nOperating System not
found".
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1901 [17:58:07] <mtn> iri: what exact command did you use to make
the disk?
1902 [17:58:13] <iri> cp iso /dev/sde1
1903 [17:58:18] <iri> but it was already partitioned.
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1905 [17:58:34] <mtn> iri: two mistakes. better read the links
again ;)
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1907 [17:58:41] <iri> OK. Sorry :(
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1909 [17:59:36] <iri> Argh, for some reason I thought it said
sdXN. I'm really not doing well here today.
1910 [17:59:43] <han-solo> teraflops: sorry, bad connection. I
didn't get you
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1915 [18:01:47] <teraflops> han-solo: what DE/WM?
1916 [18:02:06] <han-solo> gnome
1917 [18:02:37] <teraflops> han-solo: gnome already have a
notification daemon running
1918 [18:02:43] <admiral93> ok nevermind, wrote a quick bash
script to solve my problem
1919 [18:03:09] <han-solo> which is?
1920 [18:03:20] <han-solo> what's WM btw?
1921 [18:03:44] <teraflops> window manager as in i3 xmonad openbox
etc
1922 [18:03:54] <han-solo> winman?
1923 [18:03:57] <han-solo> okay
1924 [18:04:04] <han-solo> yeah
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1929 [18:05:37] <teraflops> han-solo: so, gnome already have a
notification daemon, you didn't notice it?
1930 [18:05:50] <han-solo> avahi-daemon?
1931 [18:06:11] <han-solo> but how do you send notification to
desktop?
1932 [18:06:14] <iri> OK. I'm in the net installer in expert
mode. How do I run cryptsetup?
1933 [18:06:25] <han-solo> via cli
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1936 [18:09:32] <awal1> Any one get conky transparent under
awesome?
1937 [18:10:21] <iri> mtn: is it possible to do cryptsetup before
installation from the net installer?
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1939 [18:10:41] <mtn> iri: no idea, I dont' use encryption.
have you looked at the debian wiki?
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1941 [18:11:03] <iri> I guess I can't just apt install it as
on the live CD..
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1945 [18:11:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> iri, I think you can?
1946 [18:11:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh, as on.
1947 [18:11:42] <iri> Eduard_Munteanu: How? I can't find or
figure out how to install cryptsetup
1948 [18:11:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> cryptsetup is certainly there,
but in some installer modules.
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1950 [18:12:05] <awal1> han-solo, dunst is a nice alternative for
other noitification daemons/apps stuff
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1955 [18:14:15] <teraflops> awal1: he is in gnome that has a
buiil-in one.
1956 [18:14:31] <teraflops> built*
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1959 [18:15:10] <awal1> teraflops, right, I meant in any one uses
X WM with no gnome stuff
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1963 [18:15:22] <awal1> if any one ^
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1973 [18:21:03] <iri> OK, I'm having more luck now.
1974 [18:21:23] <iri> I gave up on trying to use cryptsetup and
just went with what the installer does.
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1986 [18:26:43] <teraflops> han-solo: I cannot believe you
didn't notice gnome already have a notification daemon. is
*that* thing at the bottom
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1988 [18:27:05] <han-solo> i have a bad monitor
1989 [18:27:18] <han-solo> so it's like a tab in windows
there :)
1990 [18:27:25] <teraflops> h4ndy: so you just need libnotify-bin
for getting notify-send since you already have a notification daemon
running
1991 [18:27:28] <han-solo> a big tab
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1994 [18:28:11] <han-solo> no, i just need to send custom
notifications to desktop from command line
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2001 [18:30:08] <han-solo> just saying, "in ubuntu,
notify-send sends notification to the upper right side of the
desktop"
2002 [18:30:24] <teraflops> 18:27:25 teraflops ⎸ h4ndy: so you
just need libnotify-bin for getting notify-send since you already
have a notification daemon running …
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2006 [18:30:50] <han-solo> ugh
2007 [18:30:53] <han-solo> sorry
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2011 [18:31:25] <teraflops> oh h4ndy sorry
2012 [18:31:28] <teraflops> i meant han-solo
2013 [18:31:34] <han-solo> ah
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2015 [18:31:56] <han-solo> i was just thinking, another guys has
the same question? :/
2016 [18:31:57] <han-solo> :)
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2021 [18:34:26] <Eliza777> KDE + Openbox. On Ctrl+Alt+F1 runned
OpenBox and game. I canged to Ctrl+Alt+F7 to KDE and changed to
Ctrl+Alt+F1 to OpenBox with the game. And I saw game crashed.
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2029 [18:36:47] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: wouldn't it be simpler
to run the game in KDE, all under the same X11 server session?
2030 [18:37:14] <Eliza777> no
2031 [18:37:28] <Eliza777> in new session faster work
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2042 [18:43:44] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: does the game still crash if
you do it all under one session?
2043 [18:44:13] <Eliza777> no
2044 [18:44:23] <Eliza777> only game crashed
2045 [18:44:28] <Eliza777> no sessions
2046 [18:45:35] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: what i mean, is does the
game crash if you run it under your original X session on tty7 (the
KDE session)?
2047 [18:45:38] <Eliza777> Only graphics in the game breaks
2048 [18:45:46] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: is running two X servers
causing your problem?
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2050 [18:46:08] <Eliza777> тщ
2051 [18:46:10] <Eliza777> no
2052 [18:46:21] <Eliza777> all work if no change to other X
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2057 [18:47:42] <Eliza777> X7 run script -> X1 Running Game
-> change to X7 all work here -> change to X1 Game crashed
2058 [18:47:58] <Eliza777> Its bug?
2059 [18:48:00] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: if you can find an error
message either on the stdout/stderr from running the game, or
perhaps in /var/log/Xorg.0.log you may be able to find the origin of
the problem.
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2061 [18:48:33] <Eliza777> Can you test it pls?
2062 [18:48:47] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: honestly I don't think
very many people run multiple Xorg servers as the same user on the
same computer. I would still try to reproduce the crash by running
your game on tty7 in KDE
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2065 [18:49:20] <Eliza777> its work normal
2066 [18:49:42] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: the game does not crash if
it runs under KDE then?
2067 [18:49:45] <Eliza777> lightdm bug?
2068 [18:49:49] <Eliza777> or xorg
2069 [18:50:09] <Eliza777> all work on kde
2070 [18:50:27] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: i believe that KDE has a
feature to disable compositing features in its window manager for
fullscreen applications (like games). You should try that instead of
starting a second X server.
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2073 [18:50:53] <Eliza777> disabled
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2075 [18:51:11] <Eliza777> nvidia driver
2076 [18:51:32] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: i don't understand
sentence fragments :)
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2078 [18:52:04] <Eliza777> compositing is disabled on KDE
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2084 [18:53:33] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: another thing to try is
running the second X session with the game as a different user
account. If there is an error message, you should research the
error.
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2088 [18:55:09] <sharkman> when i scrape from debian i am getting
this error message "Connection reset by peer -
SSL_connect". it happens sporadically. some of the time the
scraper works. othertimes it gets this error. would it make sense
for me to try to update any SSL packages on my computer?
2089 [18:55:13] <Eliza777> I nub Im sorry
2090 [18:55:41] <eSa|> hi, I've got messages like this during
apt-get update. what do you suggest?
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2092 [18:55:47] <eSa|> W: Errore GPG:
replaced-url
2093 [18:56:14] <jmcnaught> sharkman: probably not. On Debian the
SSL libraries (like almost everything) stay at the same version for
the entire life of a release
2094 [18:56:43] <sharkman> oh, good to know, thanks jmcnaught
2095 [18:56:44] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: it's okay. I think the
problem is running to X11 sessions. See if you can avoid that, or
find a specific error message to research.
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2097 [18:57:13] <Eliza777> in future then
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2101 [18:59:05] <jmcnaught> eSa|: are you attempting a release
upgrade to stretch? which release are you upgrading from? you may
get better testing/unstable support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
where there are more testing/unstable users
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2104 [19:00:34] <Eliza777> I installed Debian Mini and I see here
work screensaver. How to remove it?
2105 [19:01:01] <Eliza777> Also I not have Xorg
2106 [19:01:34] <eSa|> thanks jmcnaught , i'm stuck without
upgrading from more than a year and I uses to go on testing unstable
2107 [19:01:48] <Eliza777> And me?
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2109 [19:02:18] <TheGuest> hi all
2110 [19:02:27] <jmcnaught> eSa|: if you've been struggling
with an upgrade for a year you may consider reinstalling Debian
stable and using that for a bit while you learn Debian.
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2112 [19:03:10] <TheGuest> i have debian 6 can i still use that???
(installing apps from synaptic)
2113 [19:03:15] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: Xorg is the software that
controls the screen, keyboard and mouse when you are in a graphical
session. KDE, lightdm, openbox, all of these use Xorg (aka X11)
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2115 [19:03:34] <eSa|> I'm got very rusty knowledge on
debian, I will take time to recover it
2116 [19:03:44] <Eliza777> jmcnaught, and?
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2119 [19:04:34] <jmcnaught> TheGuest: Debian 6 support is
completely finished. Debian 7 main support is also finished, only
the LTS support is available for Debian 7 (which is mostly focused
on server software). You are better off with Debian 8, the current
stable release.
2120 [19:04:48] <Eliza777> jmcnaught, I not have a Xorg, DE, WM,
but I have screensaver just on console
2121 [19:04:50] <jmcnaught> TheGuest: if you must run old
unsupported software, "/msg dpkg squeeze sources.list"
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2123 [19:05:19] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: oh, the screen goes blank? I
don't know how to disable that, I spend so little time on the
console.
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2128 [19:06:03] <Eliza777> jmcnaught, how? :(
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2130 [19:06:40] <TheGuest> whetherdebian have a old repository
like ubuntu?
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2132 [19:07:16] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: i don't know. i use a
terminal emulator under GNOME
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2134 [19:07:25] <Eliza777> :(
2135 [19:07:38] <jmcnaught> TheGuest: please read my messages
again, I gave you info on how to ask the bot for Debian 6 repos
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2137 [19:08:44] <TheGuest> ow ok, debian, 8
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2142 [19:11:08] <Eliza777> cp: cannot stat
'/etc/modprobe.d'* No such file or directory
2143 [19:11:48] <Eliza777> apt-get install xorg xinit lightdm
openbox
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2145 [19:12:22] <Eliza777> jmcnaught, ?
2146 [19:12:25] <Eliza777> Here bug
2147 [19:12:32] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: once some xorg packages are
installed you should get some files in that directory. You could
look at "ls /etc/modprobe.d/"
2148 [19:13:11] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: you already had KDE running
though?
2149 [19:13:26] <Eliza777> no
2150 [19:13:28] <Eliza777> apt-get install xorg xinit lightdm
openbox
2151 [19:13:54] <Eliza777> Do You have a VM?
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2153 [19:14:11] <Eliza777> Its Bug in Debian Mini
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2155 [19:14:36] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: did you install from the
mini.iso? that's not a recommended installation method
2156 [19:15:02] <Eliza777> I want fast OS
2157 [19:15:37] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: Debian is fast when you use
the officially recommended installer ISO linked to from the homepage
and in the install manual
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2161 [19:15:57] <Eliza777> ls said no such file or directiry
2162 [19:16:16] <Eliza777> I found bug
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2165 [19:17:52] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: it's more likely that
you do not yet have any packages installed that place files in that
directory.
2166 [19:18:09] <jmcnaught> dpkg: tell Eliza777 about pastebinit
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2168 [19:18:31] <Eliza777> not found
2169 [19:19:30] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: please show the exact
command you used and complete output. If it is more than 2-3 lines,
please use the pastebinit tool that dpkg just messaged you about.
2170 [19:19:31] <teraflops> Eliza777: dpkg -S /etc/modprobe.d
→ udev, module-init-tools, kmod: /etc/modprobe.d
2171 [19:19:48] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: please also let us know
which release of Debian you have installed
2172 [19:20:01] <teraflops> yeah
2173 [19:20:24] <Eliza777> lastest Mini
2174 [19:20:30] <Eliza777> netinstall
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2176 [19:20:41] <Eliza777> acc root
2177 [19:20:46] <Eliza777> then
2178 [19:20:52] <Eliza777> apt-get install xorg xinit lightdm
openbox
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2181 [19:21:24] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: you need to give specific
details if you want help. Show us the link/URL that you used to
download the iso file. The mini.iso is different than the netinst
iso. The mini also asks if you want stable, testing, or unstable.
2182 [19:21:27] <Eliza777> I mean login: root
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2184 [19:22:08] <Eliza777> 64 bit netinstall default from the
oficial Debian website
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2186 [19:22:57] <Eliza777>
replaced-url
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2188 [19:23:06] <Eliza777> amd64
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2192 [19:23:48] <Eliza777>
replaced-url
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2194 [19:23:54] <Eliza777> it
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2197 [19:24:02] <Eliza777> this
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2199 [19:25:03] <Eliza777> debian-stretch-DI-alpha7-amd64-netinst
its my
2200 [19:25:26] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: which one did you install,
8.5 or stretch-DI-alpha7?
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2202 [19:25:41] <Eliza777> second
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2207 [19:26:11] <Eliza777> now i will install first
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2211 [19:27:00] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: if you are new please start
with the stable release. Stretch is not finished, probably
won't be for around another year.
2212 [19:27:09] <popsch2> what is a good network file system built
into linux that has local caching? NFS doesn't cache data
locally and always accesses the remote server for data. I only need
to read data and not write it.
2213 [19:27:21] <jmcnaught> Eliza777: also please at least skim
replaced-url
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2217 [19:29:52] <bibble> When a server is hacked, is it ever
really one that only uses ssh keys, and if so, still through a
different way such as php or similar ?
2218 [19:30:27] <jmcnaught> bibble: any software could have
exploits in it
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2220 [19:31:46] <bibble> true. just wondering if as long as ssh is
kept up to date and keys used only, if anyone is actually aware of
servers being hacked that way.
2221 [19:31:56] <babilen> What way?
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2223 [19:32:13] <bibble> through ssh.
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2228 [19:32:52] <babilen> I'd say that other attack vectors
are more common
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2233 [19:34:05] <babilen> SSH is regarded as one of the better
audited programs out there. But then the problem here might be
rather one with people who misplace their keys (for example)
2234 [19:34:15] <babilen> (OpenSSH that is)
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2236 [19:34:59] <bibble> Right. Cool. Just gets freaky when you
see all the authentication attempts made by bad IPs.
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2240 [19:35:18] <babilen> That's the "background
noise" of the internet
2241 [19:35:34] <bibble> :)
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2245 [19:36:15] <babilen> It happens to every box in existence.
Just disable password and root logins completely and only use proper
keys (high bit RSA, elliptic curves (if you trust them), ...) and
you shouldn't have to worry too much about that
2246 [19:36:17] <LAL> Hello guys, anyone requesting bug report via
email?
2247 [19:36:39] <babilen> LAL: I'm not giving you my mail
address, sorry
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2249 [19:36:48] <babilen> (at least not for that purpose)
2250 [19:36:59] <LAL> babilen:
2251 [19:37:16] <babilen> LAL: Would you like to report a bug
report to Debian?
2252 [19:37:25] <LAL> babilen: I don't want your mail id.
2253 [19:37:28] <bibble> babilen: great, that's what I hoped.
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2255 [19:37:53] <babilen> bibble: Every single server out there
sees thousands of those attempts every single day
2256 [19:38:06] <popsch2> my bad, NFS supports caching with fsc :)
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2258 [19:38:52] <LAL> babilen: I just want to know how to request
Debian to sent bug reports to my email-id.
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2260 [19:39:07] <babilen> LAL: Ah, you want to subscribe to a bug
report!
2261 [19:39:15] <LAL> babilen: yes
2262 [19:39:30] <babilen>
replaced-url
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2264 [19:39:55] <LAL> babilen: Thank you
2265 [19:39:59] <LAL> :-)
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2273 [19:41:04] <sabusanta> babilen: I am a prince in nigeria i
have 100 trillion dollars biznez oportunity...plz send me ur email
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2276 [19:41:34] <babilen> \o/
2277 [19:41:44] <sabusanta> :d
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2279 [19:42:34] <bibble> lol
2280 [19:42:53] <teraflops> xD
2281 [19:43:35] <sabusanta> Believe it or not those errors were
intentional.
2282 [19:44:51] <teraflops> I receive random scam emails like that
from the lartc majordomo vger.kernel.org list :S
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2286 [19:47:08] <sabusanta> That reminds me ive got to learn how
to set up a spamfilter
2287 [19:47:08] <nikitasius> teraflops: best spam i ever had, when
i worked in bank in it departement, every monday we had viagra spam
with new girl.
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2290 [19:47:43] <nikitasius> you come to work, turnon pc and.. new
girl watching you from spam message. That was awesome
2291 [19:47:48] <teraflops> yeah once they get your email
you're just flagged til the end of times
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2294 [19:48:18] <bibble> sabusanta: spamassasin seems to be the
most common I come across.
2295 [19:48:19] <nikitasius> it was corporate email. when you work
in IT, lot of clients and empoloyers have your email.
2296 [19:48:20] * babilen casually mentions #debian-offtopic
2297 [19:48:29] <nikitasius> babilen: okay. thanks!
2298 [19:49:03] <sabusanta> bibble: Spamassasin is it common in IT
environments. As that's the only reason. I want to eventually
find a jr linux position
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2301 [19:49:31] <bibble> Ah, see. not sure sabusanta .
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2305 [19:51:10] <bibble> I think possibly though. Most email setup
verifiers refer to spamassasin when testing spam level sabusanta
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2307 [19:51:38] <sabusanta> bibble: thanks, ill look into it
2308 [19:51:43] <bibble> .... wether you're spam or ham.
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2314 [19:55:43] <rnd> how to change the environment variables
2315 [19:55:47] <rnd> for other users
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2322 [19:57:29] <bibble> rnd, that they can't change
themselves ?, if not, ~/.bashrc is one place.
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2326 [19:59:03] <teraflops> sabusanta: setup your own email server
and secure it, that's a good way of learning spamassasin, DNS,
etc.
2327 [19:59:16] <LAL> Hello guys, I am new to Debian and can
anyone help me how to reproduce bugs in my machine. :-)
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2329 [20:00:14] <sabusanta> teraflops: Im slowly moving into that
area. So much stuff to learn studying for CCNA blah blah
2330 [20:00:22] <sabusanta> LAL: whats your bug you want to
produce
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2333 [20:00:40] <LAL> sabusanta: actually I am a beginner.
2334 [20:00:43] <`Kevin> sabusanta: nooo cisco :(
2335 [20:00:57] <teraflops> yeah I read cisco :S
2336 [20:01:05] <LAL> sabusanta: there must be a common way right.
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2339 [20:01:40] <sabusanta> LAL: No not really. I mean you can go
thru the sequence of actions again and try to hit it but it's
not guaranteed. Im having that problem with Handbrake right now
actually
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2341 [20:02:08] <sabusanta> teraflops: Cisco stuff seems nice
Kevin: whats's wrong with Cisco?
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2343 [20:02:16] <teraflops> LAL: try to reproduce them in clean
environments like clean chroots or just VMs
2344 [20:02:41] <teraflops> sabusanta: you said linux position go
learn LARTC :P
2345 [20:02:49] <`Kevin> sabusanta: overpriced just like juniper
and other typical network vendors
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2348 [20:03:22] <LAL> teraflops: thank you
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2350 [20:03:37] <sabusanta> LAL: But did you have a specific bug
you were trying to reproduce?
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2352 [20:03:45] <rnd> bibble: for example as a root you can change
the home folder of a user etc
2353 [20:03:49] <`Kevin> sabusanta: we are starting to make use of
cumulus linux which is basically just debian jessie... with some
custom asic driver pieces
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2356 [20:04:10] <LAL> sabusanta: I am afraid not.
2357 [20:04:16] <`Kevin> you can get a 32x100Gb/s switch for
<$15k
2358 [20:04:19] <teraflops> LAL: for VMs looks like a good idea a
VM with a clean install, then back it up so you can always start
from it
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2360 [20:04:38] <`Kevin> and it is the same chipset that cisco or
juniper uses
2361 [20:04:39] <sabusanta> `Kevin: They all are pretty much a
scam but at least CCNA teaches you something and is highly sought in
this area (DOD area)
2362 [20:04:55] <LAL> sabusanta: I don't have bug to work on.
2363 [20:05:34] <sabusanta> LAL: Ok. well when you do it might be
helpful to look up a few debugging mechanisms. Usually it's
better to debug from Terminal
2364 [20:05:39] <`Kevin> sabusanta: ccna does teach you some
decent basics i just wouldn't go into the whole vendor lock-in
route so keep that in mind
2365 [20:06:15] <teraflops> I agree with `Kevin at 101% ;)
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2367 [20:06:18] <sabusanta> LAL: read up on strace, gdb too Ive
used those
2368 [20:06:20] <LAL> sabusanta: Can you guide me through it.
2369 [20:07:39] <sabusanta> LAL: No, you dont have a bug. So
it's all hypotheticals
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2371 [20:08:02] <bibble> ah, rnd, you've got to use commands
like "usermod --help" to change a user's home.
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2373 [20:08:23] <sabusanta> `Kevin: By vendor lockin do you mean
thru one vendor. I mean doesnt it hurt to not specialize in at least
some vendor in your experience
2374 [20:08:37] <rnd> there is question for LFCS how to change
users envi. variables
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2376 [20:09:10] <`Kevin> sabusanta: I wouldnt work somewhere that
I do not have the flexibility to use something I prefer and that is
Linux
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2378 [20:09:18] <LAL> sabusanta: Ok fine and thank you.
2379 [20:09:25] <`Kevin> sabusanta: I did CCNA 11 years ago and
started at a Cisco shop
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2381 [20:10:04] <sabusanta> rnd: Is that the question verbatim?
Seems so open ended.
2382 [20:10:33] <rnd> it is like a topic, it isnt the actual
question
2383 [20:10:43] <rnd> but in the exam it was a question to change
the home dir
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2385 [20:11:54] <webpigeon> Hi, does anyone know why all of the
apt-get surgestions now only read apt: "ie. Use 'sudo apt
autoremove' to remove them."?
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2388 [20:12:48] <bibble> I think it's because really apt-get
and apt are the same thing really ?
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2392 [20:14:10] <sabusanta> rnd: I dont know how they'd want
to do it but like you could dump the variables into the users home
.bash_profile for export.
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2395 [20:14:27] <teraflops> rnd: export HOME=/tmp && cd
&& pwd ^
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2399 [20:15:19] <teraflops> sabusanta: for the current shell, not
for making it persistent
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2401 [20:15:22] <sabusanta> webbyz: apt-get is deprecated I
believe. least that's what it told me. I still find myself
having to use apt-get thogh
2402 [20:15:32] <rnd> for making them persistent i think
2403 [20:15:50] <webbyz> sabusanta: ummm, k? lol
2404 [20:15:55] <r1v3n> got multiple sound sinks, and when I
"aplay -D plughw:1,3,0 test.wav
2405 [20:15:57] <webbyz> thanks for letting me know :P
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2407 [20:16:16] <webbyz> apt-get always works for me :P
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2409 [20:16:18] <r1v3n> it plays like 7 out of 10 times
2410 [20:16:28] <r1v3n> other 3 times, silence
2411 [20:16:35] <Putti> webpigeon,
replaced-url
2412 [20:16:36] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
2413 [20:17:05] <r1v3n> aplay -D plughw:1,3,0 test.wav - works
once in a while, but not always,
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2415 [20:17:16] <webbyz> sabusanta: I only use apt-get on all of
my raspberry piS
2416 [20:17:26] <r1v3n> how can I figure out what happens. notting
in logs
2417 [20:17:27] <sabusanta> webbyz: yea apt-get still works as
does aptitude, as does dpkg. lol. and actually I forgot what the
instance was but apt failed for me and I had to use apt-get
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2419 [20:19:21] <teraflops> r1v3n: may I as why are you explicitly
using alsa?
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2423 [20:20:04] <Putti> webpigeon, I'd say that's a bug
but for me that doesn't matter
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2425 [20:20:43] <r1v3n> well, debian came with pulse/alsa
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2427 [20:20:52] <r1v3n> you implying I should oss
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2429 [20:21:07] <teraflops> no
2430 [20:21:26] <teraflops> I'n asking why are you using alsa
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2433 [20:21:33] <teraflops> m*
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2435 [20:22:06] <r1v3n> I am trying to get my debian to say time
every 10 minutes, via cron trigeging shell script
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2439 [20:22:39] <teraflops> r1v3n: unless you have a mixer sw if
you do alsa and something has the sound device in use you wont get
sound
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2441 [20:22:50] <r1v3n> shell script plays file
2442 [20:23:04] <teraflops> r1v3n: use pulseadio and use paplay
then I suppose
2443 [20:23:15] <r1v3n> teraflops, exactly, so I would like cron
to to able to play sounds same time while ruthmbox playing music
2444 [20:23:17] <teraflops> as in paplay
/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav
2445 [20:23:32] <teraflops> use pulseadio :P
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2447 [20:24:04] <r1v3n> yeah, it works when I run scipt manually,
but will not play when trigged bby cron
2448 [20:24:20] <r1v3n> tried many players, paplay works just fine
2449 [20:24:23] <r1v3n> but not via cron
2450 [20:24:28] <bibble> wouldn't "aplay test.wav"
work too ? no other options given.
2451 [20:24:59] <r1v3n> from terminal sure, but lauches from cron,
no
2452 [20:25:05] <r1v3n> launched*
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2454 [20:25:06] <bibble> see
2455 [20:25:08] <teraflops> r1v3n: does that cron script about
your Xorg session and pulse instance? pulseadio runs as user not
systemwide (by default)
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2457 [20:25:18] <teraflops> know*
2458 [20:25:39] <r1v3n> teraflops, yeah envr variables prollly
missing
2459 [20:25:45] <r1v3n> how do I find which one
2460 [20:26:18] <r1v3n> cron -e runs script as user
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2462 [20:26:37] <r1v3n> same user as logged in, and listening to
rythbox
2463 [20:26:41] <teraflops> r1v3n: you run as user an under X
right? if you do a systemd user unit + timer you wont have such
issues
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2465 [20:26:49] <teraflops> and*
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2467 [20:27:11] <r1v3n> i set it using:
2468 [20:27:23] <r1v3n> crontab -u user -
2469 [20:27:38] <r1v3n> and it shows in syslog as running under
correct user
2470 [20:27:47] <r1v3n> yet no sound
2471 [20:27:51] <teraflops> I won't bother in hacking cron
jobs for users hardcoding ENV vars since we already have systemd
user units and timers
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2473 [20:28:21] <r1v3n> so I shouldnt use cron to make talking
clock?
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2475 [20:28:38] <r1v3n> run daemon wiht timer instead
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2477 [20:29:30] <bibble> Ha, apparently wav can be sent straight
to speaker "cat test.wav | /dev/pcsp"
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2479 [20:29:49] <r1v3n> /dev/pcsp is like oss in pulse
2480 [20:29:50] <r1v3n> port right?
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2482 [20:29:58] <bibble> not sure
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2484 [20:30:40] <r1v3n> hmm I dont even have it, prolly have to
enable in pulse config
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2486 [20:31:21] <teraflops> r1v3n: what I sais was a personal
opinion ^
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2491 [20:32:49] <r1v3n> I gonna figure out what systemd user units
are
2492 [20:33:12] <teraflops> r1v3n: try paplay
2493 [20:33:22] <r1v3n> thank you for help teraflops!
2494 [20:33:31] <teraflops> np. good luck
2495 [20:33:58] <bibble> I would choose teraflops choice as works
with all encodings, in case you change your media file.
2496 [20:35:32] <teraflops> r1v3n: in case you need to explicitly
set the pulse instance it's under /run/whatever sorry I'm
on the phone I can't be more specific
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2498 [20:36:42] <r1v3n> bibble, that much i already figured :)
2499 [20:37:53] <bibble> :)
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2524 [20:46:47] <r1v3n> pax11publish -d Server:
{c7b48373a21b4022bb993f40634d8a8e}unix:/run/user/1000/pulse/native
2525 [20:47:10] <r1v3n> what do I set it as, PULSE_SERVER?
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2534 [20:54:47] <webpigeon> Putti: thanks, someone who is new to
Debian in my office spotted it the other day and it confused them -
promised I'd ask about it
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2536 [20:57:25] <Putti> webpigeon, you're welcome! :) But
haha, basically the bug report made just a new bug, but now instead
we should change it back to apt-get :D
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2547 [21:07:27] <crash_> how do i install i3-wm version 4.12 on
debian 8? backports only has 4.11
2548 [21:07:58] <prussian> you don't
2549 [21:08:09] <prussian> or you compile and build it yourself
2550 [21:08:11] <prussian> sorry
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2556 [21:11:26] <crash_> ok i see, i will see if i can compile it
by my self
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2558 [21:12:00] <Eliza777> hi
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2560 [21:12:44] <Eliza777> I need run 2 X servers on start. How to
configure lightdm?
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2567 [21:15:14] <up2late> Eliza777:
replaced-url
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2569 [21:15:38] <Eliza777> noob?
2570 [21:16:17] <up2late> its in the first return
2571 [21:16:20] <up2late> dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
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2573 [21:17:54] <up2late> or even read
replaced-url
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2577 [21:19:31] <Eliza777> what is dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ?
2578 [21:19:48] <Eliza777> I need 2 VT
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2580 [21:19:53] <Eliza777> autorunning
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2584 [21:23:18] <digdilem> dpkg-reconfigure asks you the same
questions as when it was installed, or restores to defaults,
depending on the package
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2593 [21:25:38] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, why do you need 2
servers running?
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2598 [21:27:47] <Eliza777> nothing no ask
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2602 [21:28:28] <Eliza777> digdilem, nothing no ask
2603 [21:28:46] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, 2 VT
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2605 [21:29:22] <tete_> hi, i have a question regarding dev_info
messages in kernel.log. its not really debian related (its armbian)
but no one answers in that channel, so maybe anyone can help me
here. i would like to use the sfp modul of my clearfog pro
routerboard but i dont get it working, so i thought i should get
some kernel messages, but there are none. the patch which is used
for the kernel is here
replaced-url
2606 [21:29:22] <tete_>
rvell-next/0015-sfp-display-SFP-module-information.patch and i can
see many dev_info
2607 [21:29:30] <tete_> but i dont see them in my
/var/log/kern.log - any ideas why?
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2610 [21:30:11] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, I'm asking for
the purpose of this, there may be better ways to accomplish it.
2611 [21:30:48] <Eliza777> cause I need
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2623 [21:35:53] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, see the LightDM
section here:
replaced-url
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2625 [21:36:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, you don't need to
specify the different layouts
2626 [21:36:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> Just the seats.
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2640 [21:43:47] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, There just Seat:0 and
no Seat:seat0
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2644 [21:44:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, add a Seat:1 section
then
2645 [21:45:01] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, ok
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2648 [21:45:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> With just the xserver-command
line
2649 [21:45:57] <Eliza777> For Auto Login multiseat (without
Display Manager)
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2652 [21:46:19] <Eliza777> And layout?
2653 [21:46:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, no. And no auto login
stuff.
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2660 [21:48:57] <Eliza777> ok
2661 [21:49:14] <mernilio> Greetings fellow seemen on the greath
northern sea!
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2663 [21:49:52] <stoned> O_o
2664 [21:50:35] <mernilio> I made my first credit card buy on the
internet today. It was shakey up here on the bridge but i think the
captaint did it right! :-)
2665 [21:51:09] <stoned> You're on a boat?
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2667 [21:51:36] <stoned> Bridges don't have captains. Boats
do.
2668 [21:51:42] <mernilio> Im not an old timer .. i have just not
used that possibility
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2670 [21:52:00] <mernilio> stoned: Maybe so
2671 [21:52:14] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, here little problem
2672 [21:52:23] <stoned> Welcome to the future!
2673 [21:52:27] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, X:11 and X:12 bad work
2674 [21:52:54] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, I have now F7 and F8
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2676 [21:53:11] <stoned> mernilio: using debian and FOSS
you'll probably be safe.
2677 [21:53:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, I don't
understand.
2678 [21:53:31] <stoned> mernilio: better security on linux than
windows maybe
2679 [21:53:44] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu,
xserver-command=/usr/bin/X :11 xserver-command=/usr/bin/X :12
2680 [21:53:46] <mernilio> stoned: Im using Slackware
2681 [21:54:05] <stoned> Ok. But this is #debian
2682 [21:54:30] <mernilio> stoned: Im banned for life in
#slackware <-- :-P
2683 [21:54:31] <stoned> We use GNU. Slackware uses GNU. We use
linux kernel. Slackware uses linux kernel. It's all the same,
but it's not.
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2685 [21:54:47] <stoned> Well, switch to debian. Talking of
slackware in #debian could be frowned upon
2686 [21:54:49] <Eduard_Munteanu> The security of Linux pretty
much relies on the inability of users to install random crap they
get online.
2687 [21:55:08] <Eliza777> go on #ubuntu
2688 [21:55:18] <stoned> Stay here and switch to debian.
2689 [21:55:28] <stoned> That's a much better solution to a
non-problem.
2690 [21:55:35] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, :(
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2692 [21:55:52] <mernilio> Im not here to argue .. I have tried
debien thou! Pretty good! But i didnt like dep-checks.
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2694 [21:56:28] <stoned> I wonder what brings you to #debian.
There is ##linux where you can get general linux support. This is
for #debian support.
2695 [21:56:34] <stoned> <- confused
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2700 [21:57:25] <mernilio> stoned: i was thinking of ian murdock.
And thougt i might stop by and pay my respect!
2701 [21:57:32] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, heeey
2702 [21:57:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, I don't
understand what you mean
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2705 [21:58:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, you got the two X
servers running?
2706 [21:58:30] <stoned> mernilio: thank you for your respects.
2707 [21:58:49] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, yes
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2709 [21:58:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, ok, what's the
problem then?
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2712 [21:59:05] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, but on the ctrl+alt+F7
and F8
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2715 [21:59:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, and how do you want
them?
2716 [21:59:18] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, and no on 11 and 12
2717 [21:59:21] <stoned> Eduard_Munteanu: Windows has UAC as well.
OSX has it's own security model.
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2719 [21:59:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh.
2720 [21:59:34] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, I want F11 and F12
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2727 [22:01:12] <mernilio> Wasnt Eliza the first good bot, no one
could tell from a real human being?
2728 [22:01:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, add vt11 and vt12
respectively
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2730 [22:01:34] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, as options to
/usr/bin/X
2731 [22:01:58] <mernilio> Or a nazi crypto mashine? ...
2732 [22:02:06] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, Oo what?
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2734 [22:02:39] <mernilio> Oki, thanks for your attentiion all,
and stoned
2735 [22:02:42] <mernilio> cya
2736 [22:02:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> /usr/bin/X :0 vt11
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2738 [22:02:49] <Eduard_Munteanu> /usr/bin/X :1 vt12
2739 [22:03:12] <Eliza777> oh ok
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2745 [22:05:34] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, its no work
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2751 [22:07:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, can you pastebin your
lightdm.conf?
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2753 [22:07:46] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, of cose
2754 [22:07:53] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, need install it
2755 [22:08:12] <Eliza777> how to?
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2757 [22:09:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, apt-get install
pastebinit
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2759 [22:09:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> pastebinit <
/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
2760 [22:09:58] <Eliza777> ok
2761 [22:11:40] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu,
replaced-url
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2770 [22:14:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, try replacing X by
Xorg
2771 [22:14:20] <dmacks> How do I format or parse a shlibs file
when the library file contains whitespace in its name?
2772 [22:14:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> On both those lines.
2773 [22:14:43] <dmacks> (the shlibs file is described as using
whitespace to delimit fields)
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2775 [22:14:58] <Eliza777> ok
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2778 [22:16:24] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, no work
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2780 [22:16:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, what happens?
2781 [22:16:50] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, F7 and F8 work and no
F11 and F12
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2786 [22:18:03] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, oh... there's
another way. Change the minimum-vt line in the [LightDM] section to
11.
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2788 [22:18:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, and don't forget
to remove the #
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2792 [22:19:24] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, and minimum display
number?
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2794 [22:19:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, no, leave that alone,
it's unrelated to the actual VT you get
2795 [22:20:01] <Eliza777> ok
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2797 [22:21:51] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, blackscreen
2798 [22:22:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, hm, weird. Are you
restarting the display-manager service or rebooting?
2799 [22:22:55] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, incorrect restart and
all work!
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2802 [22:23:11] <Eduard_Munteanu> Good.
2803 [22:23:12] <Eliza777> 2 times OS rebooted
2804 [22:23:24] <Eduard_Munteanu> So it works?
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2806 [22:23:33] <Eliza777> yes
2807 [22:24:10] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, THANKS YOU!!!
2808 [22:24:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> Sure, no problem.
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2813 [22:26:28] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, And how to run apps?
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2815 [22:27:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, doesn't lightdm
let you log in to a window manager / desktop?
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2818 [22:27:51] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, of cose
2819 [22:28:20] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, but need for all users
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2822 [22:29:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> Eliza777, you'll have to
log into your account from each of both VTs.
2823 [22:29:50] <Eliza777> yes
2824 [22:30:02] <Eliza777> I into WM
2825 [22:30:11] <Eliza777> on both VTs
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2827 [22:30:23] <Eliza777> and it autorunning
2828 [22:30:38] <e__> Hey, I have a Qualcomm Atheros Device 0042
(rev 31) in my laptop. I did 'modprobe ath10k_pci' and
rebooted but nothing happened. My wifi isn't working. I am
running Debian 8.5
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2831 [22:31:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> e__, modprobe has no persistent
effect across reboots
2832 [22:31:50] <e__> So what do I need to do?
2833 [22:32:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> e__, well, are you sure the
default kernel supports your device? It's 3.16 after all.
2834 [22:32:53] <e__> How would I check?
2835 [22:33:23] <babilen> e__: What does "lspci -nn|grep -i
network" give you?
2836 [22:33:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> e__, well, not easily. You could
try the kernel from backports.
2837 [22:33:45] <babilen> dpkg: bdo kernel
2838 [22:33:46] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases
are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask
me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then
run «aptitude update». To install the current backported
kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install
linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To
list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude
search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian
Backports))'».
2839 [22:33:58] <e__> Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros
Device [168c:0042] (rev 31) babilen
2840 [22:34:09] <babilen> judd: pciid 168c:0042
2841 [22:34:10] <judd> [168c:0042] is 'QCA9377 802.11ac
Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Qualcomm Atheros'
with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also
replaced-url
2842 [22:34:16] <babilen> ugh :(
2843 [22:34:19] <e__> What
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2846 [22:34:26] <e__> So I have to go ethernet?
2847 [22:34:33] <babilen> That might be the case
2848 [22:35:08] <e__> Anything you could think of?
2849 [22:35:32] <babilen> I'd try the backported kernel
2850 [22:35:38] <e__> How would I do this?
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2852 [22:35:45] <Eduard_Munteanu> See above.
2853 [22:35:47] <babilen> See above
2854 [22:36:39] <Eliza777> Eduard_Munteanu, ?
2855 [22:36:47] <babilen> modinfo on my sid box list alias:
pci:v0000168Cd00000042sv*sd*bc*sc*i*
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2857 [22:37:07] <babilen> So I guess that kernel would work .. you
might also need firmware-atheros from backports
2858 [22:38:47] <babilen> e__: Essentially add a line such as
"deb
replaced-url
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2860 [22:39:00] <no_gravity> How can I turn off ipv6 on my
machine?
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2862 [22:39:23] <babilen> no_gravity: Boot with ipv6.disable=1
2863 [22:39:32] <Eliza777> How to autorun apps?
2864 [22:39:32] <Dagger> no_gravity: generally you shouldn't
need to. if you have no v6 on the network, you can still leave it
enabled and it'll be fine
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2866 [22:39:51] <Dagger> (and if you have v6 but it's broken,
then you should fix it rather than disable it)
2867 [22:39:53] <babilen> And it shouldn't be necessary to
disable ipv6
2868 [22:40:01] <no_gravity> Dagger: I cannot reach a site and it
seem ipv6 related. When I wget with -4 for example, it works.
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2870 [22:40:17] <babilen> no_gravity: Call your ISP and tell them
they are bad
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2872 [22:40:26] <e__> It says that firmware-amd-graphics will be
installed, but I have nvidia
2873 [22:40:46] <babilen> e__: That shouldn't be a problem
2874 [22:40:57] <e__> Should I just install anyways?
2875 [22:41:15] <Dagger> more likely to be a site-specific
problem... in which case Firefox has network.dns.ipv4OnlyDomains for
that, you shouldn't be disabling v6 system wide just because of
one broken site
2876 [22:41:29] <babilen> e__: I don't see a problem with it.
Feel free to install more specific packages if you don't want
firmware-linux to pull in firmware-amd-graphics
2877 [22:41:44] <e__> Alright, I have a couple of other problems
2878 [22:41:47] <e__> As well
2879 [22:41:56] <babilen> What kind of problems?
2880 [22:42:13] <e__> Before I delve into those, do I need to
reboot?
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2887 [22:44:02] <e__> I'll just do it anyways.
2888 [22:44:06] <babilen> e__: So you installed the backported
kernel and the firmware?
2889 [22:44:09] <e__> Yes
2890 [22:44:14] <babilen> Yeah, reboot
2891 [22:44:38] <babilen> If it doesn't boot or you have
problem select the old kernel in the grub menu
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2897 [22:46:34] <e___> Nope
2898 [22:46:46] <e___> Wifi isnt working still
2899 [22:47:29] <babilen> e__: What does "lspci -knn|grep -A2
-i network" give you?
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2902 [22:48:23] <babilen> Ah, while you are at it. Include
"uname -a" and "modprobe -r ath10k_pci ; modprobe
ath10k_pci ; dmesg|tail -n23" and "iwlconfig"
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2904 [22:49:48] <e___> lspci -knn|grep -A2 -i network 03:00.0
Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros Device [168c:0042] (rev
31) Subsystem: Lite-On Communications Inc Device [11ad:08a6] 04:00.0
Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device
[10ec:5287] (rev 01)
2905 [22:50:11] <e___> hold on ill pastebin this
2906 [22:50:21] <babilen> Ah, while you are at it. Include
"uname -a" and "modprobe -r ath10k_pci ; modprobe
ath10k_pci ; dmesg|tail -n23" and "iwlconfig"
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2911 [22:52:31] <e___>
replaced-url
2912 [22:52:44] <e___> you mean iwconfig right?
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2914 [22:53:14] <babilen> I did, yes
2915 [22:53:24] <babilen> And please use a less horrible pastebin
such as one of
replaced-url
2916 [22:53:29] <babilen> (no need to repaste now)
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2918 [22:53:46] <e___> eth0 no wireless extensions. lo no wireless
extensions.
2919 [22:53:53] <e___> for iwconfig
2920 [22:53:57] <babilen> You booted into the old kernel
2921 [22:54:10] <e___> How do I boot into the new one?
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2923 [22:54:16] <babilen> What does "COLUMS=200 dpkg -l
'linux-image*'" give you?
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2925 [22:55:25] <e___>
replaced-url
2926 [22:55:28] <e___> oh oops
2927 [22:55:32] <e___> whatever
2928 [22:55:45] <babilen> I shall forgive you one more time and
open that ad-laden page
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2930 [22:56:06] <babilen> dpkg: show sources.list
2931 [22:56:06] <dpkg> Please pastebin the contents of your
/etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The
easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0
/etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
2932 [22:56:16] <babilen> e___: What does that ^^ give you?
2933 [22:56:28] <babilen> What about "apt-cache policy
linux-image-amd64" ?
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2938 [22:58:17] <e___>
replaced-url
2939 [22:58:55] <babilen> You didn't add jessie-backports to
your sources.list
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2941 [22:59:12] <babilen> 2:38:45 babilen > e__: Essentially
add a line such as "deb
replaced-url
2942 [22:59:19] <babilen> firmware-linux ...
2943 [22:59:21] <babilen> ... firmware-atheros"
2944 [22:59:30] <babilen> grr .. that didn't c&p well :)
2945 [22:59:36] <e___> Yeah
2946 [22:59:38] <e___> I did
2947 [22:59:48] <e___> deb
replaced-url
2948 [22:59:51] <e___> is in sources.list
2949 [22:59:55] <babilen> It's not in your sources.list
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2951 [23:00:04] <babilen> Ah, there it is
2952 [23:00:07] <babilen> Sorry ..
2953 [23:00:23] <e___> no problem
2954 [23:00:40] <babilen> Right, so run "apt-get -t
jessie-backports install linux-image-amd64 firmware-linux
firmware-atheros" and paste the output
2955 [23:00:54] <e___> I already did that
2956 [23:01:02] <babilen> Well, the kernel didn't install ..
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2961 [23:01:46] <e___> I'll just run it again because
it's prompting me with new stuff to install
2962 [23:01:55] <babilen> It should, yes
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2964 [23:02:41] <e___> ill reboot
2965 [23:02:51] <babilen> Did it install the new kernel now?
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2979 [23:10:44] <dale____> Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie) 64-bit and
Gnome, no scroll arrows and scroll bar moves too fast, using default
Adwaita theme, system theme choice is locked blank
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2983 [23:12:41] <awal1> dale____, if you change any stuff for
gnome-shell restart the shell (alt f r)
2984 [23:13:16] <dale____> be right back, thanks
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2986 [23:13:36] <awal1> Alt+F2+r press Enter ^
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2999 [23:17:34] <dale____> alt-f-r didn't change the
arrows/bar
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3003 [23:18:29] <dale____> got the system them unlocked by
replaced-url
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3012 [23:21:59] <Eliza777> And how to autorun 2 users on lightdm?
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3015 [23:23:13] <teraflops> dpkg: give Eliza777 xy
3016 [23:23:13] * dpkg gives Eliza777 xy
3017 [23:23:19] <teraflops> :S
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3020 [23:23:30] <teraflops> !xy
3021 [23:23:30] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you
need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We
suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell
us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely
diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's
easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See
replaced-url
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3025 [23:25:27] <hever> hello, I'm having some trouble
setting up tor... it's installed, the torproxy port is open
9050 and I configured my browser to use it... but torproxy seems to
be refusing connections... any ideas what I'm missing here?
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3029 [23:26:26] <TomTomTosch> hever: if tor refuses to start
it's often because a tor proxy is already running, for example
in form of tor browser bundle.
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3031 [23:27:04] <TomTomTosch> hever: or are you trying to make a
normal browser connect to the socks5 proxy?
3032 [23:27:11] <hever> its started and the port is open... it
just refuses connections (at least the browser tells me that)
I'm not running a bundled browser version
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3034 [23:27:37] <hever> TomTomTosch, yes I'm just trying to
use it with my iceweasel
3035 [23:28:06] <eclipse`> Hi, is there a way to set a memory
usage on make? My vps provider seems to be killing it because it
uses a lot of memory
3036 [23:28:45] <format_c> hever, have you tried testing the
connection refusal using a terminal tool? nc? nmap? telnet?
3037 [23:28:53] <TomTomTosch> hever: you go to
preferences.>advanced->connection->settings and set manual
proxy configuration. there you only set a socks host and enable
remote dns.
3038 [23:29:12] <hever> i nmaped it and the port 9050 is listening
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3041 [23:30:41] <TomTomTosch> hever: you set host to 127.0.0.01
and port to 9050. if it still complains try restarting the browser.
it works for me with exactly that configuration.
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3043 [23:30:59] <TomTomTosch> * 127.0.0.1
3044 [23:31:06] <hever> now after I enabled remote dns and did not
explicitly use the config for all protocols it says " It
appears you have configured your web browser to use Tor as an HTTP
proxy. This is not correct: Tor is a SOCKS proxy, not an HTTP proxy.
Please configure your client accordingly. "
3045 [23:31:35] <TomTomTosch> that's why you don't set
the http proxy field but only SOCKS Host
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3047 [23:32:46] <hever> ah ok... great it works, thanks!
3048 [23:32:52] <TomTomTosch> :)
3049 [23:32:57] <e_28> benaiah
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3052 [23:33:42] <eclipse`> anyone?
3053 [23:33:42] <e_28> when i installed that jessie backport
kernel and rebooted, i cant startx
3054 [23:33:58] <e_28> but my files are still there
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3056 [23:35:55] <e_28> beisner i meant
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3059 [23:36:35] <e_28> beisner you were helping me not too long
ago correct?
3060 [23:36:55] <teraflops> eclipse`: ulimit or cgroup I guess
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3062 [23:37:21] <eclipse`> teraflops, I have tried ulimit but I am
getting out of memory errors
3063 [23:37:34] <e_28> or was it babilen
3064 [23:37:53] <format_c> ulimit only helps with stack memory
exhaustion AFAIK
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3067 [23:38:09] <teraflops> try cgroups, even better try a better
vps
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3069 [23:38:41] <teraflops> eclipse`: openvz there?
3070 [23:38:49] <eclipse`> yes
3071 [23:38:54] <teraflops> ^
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3074 [23:39:41] <e_28> i installed jessie backport and i installed
the backport kernel but when i rebooted i cant 'startx'
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3076 [23:40:20] <eclipse`> teraflops, can I run make on another
machine and move the files back?
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3081 [23:41:18] <e_28> anyone willing to help?
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3083 [23:41:23] <format_c> eclipse`, if it's the same
processeor/OS arch, yes
3084 [23:41:39] <eclipse`> oh, I cant do it then
3085 [23:41:56] <format_c> e_28, in the risk repeating questions:
what's the output?
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3087 [23:42:32] <format_c> e_28, has you'r nick any relation
to e17?
3088 [23:42:42] <format_c> :-)
3089 [23:42:47] <e_28> no i was "e__" last time
3090 [23:43:13] <format_c> interessting
3091 [23:43:30] <e_28> fatal error: no screens found
3092 [23:43:47] <e_28> this is a laptop btw
3093 [23:43:53] <teraflops> eclipse`: you can cross compile sure,
also be careful with namically linked' mean? - Stack ...
3094 [23:43:55] <teraflops>
stackoverflow.com/.../what-do-statically-linked-and-dynamically-...
3095 [23:43:57] <teraflops> Traducir esta página
3096 [23:43:59] <teraflops> 22 nov. 2008 - Ask programming
questions; Answer and help your peers; Get recognized for your
expertise ... I often hear the terms 'statically linked'
and 'dynamically linked', often in reference to code
written in C, C++ or C#, but I don't know ...
3097 [23:44:01] <teraflops> c++ - When to use dynamic vs. static
libraries - Stack Overflow
3098 [23:44:03] <teraflops>
stackoverflow.com/.../when-to-use-dynamic-vs-static-libraries
3099 [23:44:05] <teraflops> Traducir esta página
3100 [23:44:07] <teraflops> 26 sept. 2008 - When creating a class
library in C++, you can choose between dynamic (.dll) and static
(.lib) libraries. What is the difference between them and ...
3101 [23:44:09] <teraflops> Difference Between Static and Dynamic
Library Linking
3102 [23:44:11] <teraflops>
cs-fundamentals.com/.../difference-between-static-and-dynamic-li...
3103 [23:44:13] <teraflops> Traducir esta página
3104 [23:44:15] <teraflops> The difference between static and
dynamic (shared) link libraries is that static ... write might make
use of other programs (which is usually the case), or libraries of
...
3105 [23:44:17] <teraflops> What is a linker, and what are dynamic
and static linking?
3106 [23:44:19] <teraflops>
replaced-url
3107 [23:44:21] <teraflops> Traducir esta página
3108 [23:44:23] <eclipse`> uh
3109 [23:44:23] <teraflops> 20 ago. 2015 - The linker inserts code
(or maps in shared libraries) to resolve program ... This may
require more disk space and memory than dynamic linking, but is ...
When compiling a C program in Unix, why do I get "ld:
Unresolved:"?
3110 [23:44:25] <teraflops> When to use dynamic linking and static
linking - IBM
3111 [23:44:27] <teraflops>
replaced-url
3112 [23:44:29] <teraflops> Traducir esta página
3113 [23:44:30] <eclipse`> teraflops, /flushq
3114 [23:44:31] <teraflops> With dynamic linking, external symbols
referenced in user code and defined in a ... provides facilities for
creating and using dynamically linked shared libraries. ...
concurrently running applications (or copies of the same
application) use the ...
3115 [23:44:33] <teraflops> Static library - Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia
3116 [23:44:34] <babilen> e_28: Which gpu?
3117 [23:44:35] <teraflops>
replaced-url
3118 [23:44:37] <teraflops> Traducir esta página
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3120 [23:44:41] <eclipse`> REKT
3121 [23:44:46] <format_c> e_28, the error message says the
(generated) xorg.conf doesn't have a valid <Screen>
section.
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3123 [23:45:00] <e_28> babilen nvidia 940mx
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3125 [23:45:36] <babilen> e_28: And you use the proprietary nvidia
driver?
3126 [23:45:36] <teraflops> I'm sorry it was a buffer
incident
3127 [23:45:45] <format_c> it's probably not a question of
the hardward, rather than the (virtual) config file contents
3128 [23:45:51] <eclipse`> np
3129 [23:46:00] <e_28> there is no xorg.conf :(
3130 [23:46:07] <e_28> that is weird
3131 [23:46:11] <babilen> No, it is not
3132 [23:46:22] <pipl> does anyone here dual boot debian with
windows 10
3133 [23:46:33] <e_28> and babilen i havent installed anything
nvidia related up to the point
3134 [23:46:47] <babilen> e_28: So you were using nouveau?
3135 [23:47:05] <e_28> yep
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3138 [23:47:23] <babilen> Well, not sure why that isn't
working for you right now. Does the wifi work?
3139 [23:47:27] <e_28> would this have to do with that amd
firmware thing I installed earlier?
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3143 [23:47:46] <babilen> I doubt it, but feel free to remove that
particular firmware pacakge
3144 [23:47:57] <e_28> wifi doesnt work?
3145 [23:48:03] <e_28> :(
3146 [23:48:06] <babilen> You tell me
3147 [23:48:18] <e_28> i meant that as a statement
3148 [23:48:26] <e_28> the wifi doesnt work
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3150 [23:48:58] <babilen> So, you are booted into the new kernel
now and "iwconfig", "lspci -knn -A2 -i network"
and the modprobe statement still show that the card isn't
working?
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3154 [23:50:22] <e_28> iwconfig says the same thing, lspci -knn
-A2 -i network says no such pci access method
3155 [23:51:04] <babilen> Ah, forgot the grep .. clearly time to
head off now :)
3156 [23:51:24] <babilen> But "uname -a" show the 4.6
kernel now?
3157 [23:51:47] <e_28> 4.6 yep
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3159 [23:52:31] <babilen> Curious ... well, i'm off. It was
worth a try .. check what happens if you load the module and modinfo
3160 [23:52:59] <e_28> well now im stuck in tty1
3161 [23:53:12] <e_28> and i have been since i rebooted lol
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3164 [23:53:32] <TomTomTosch> you can always boot the old kernel
if things don't work out.
3165 [23:53:52] <e_28> im literally stumped
3166 [23:53:54] <e_28> lol
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3168 [23:54:13] <e_28> how can i boot into the old kernel and get
rid of this one(
3169 [23:54:40] <TomTomTosch> grub gives you a selection.
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3171 [23:55:26] <babilen> (i mentioned that earlier)
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3174 [23:56:06] <Time-Warp> what happens if you rm -frv
/etc/default/grub
3175 [23:56:14] <Time-Warp> and then update-grub
3176 [23:56:37] <e_28> sorry about that
3177 [23:56:57] <lgc> Hi. I just installed VirtualBox 5.0 on my
LMDE host. It can read the CD, but the USB options are greyed out.
3178 [23:57:02] <e_28> how do i remove this now?
3179 [23:57:08] <e_28> jessie backport
3180 [23:57:14] <e_28> and the backport kernel
3181 [23:57:47] <TomTomTosch> e_28: you boot the old kernel and
remove the packages that you don't want.
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3183 [23:58:32] <TomTomTosch> that would be
linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 for the backports kernel.
3184 [23:58:42] <e_28> thanks
3185 [23:58:45] <Time-Warp> opps
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