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• 29[00:11:01] <BCMM> tobiasBora: my guess would be that documentation wants to stay compatible with alternative filesystems that are not supported by fsadm
• 30[00:12:14] <frostschutz> tobiasBora, some people just like to know what they're doing without too much magic happening behind the scenes. otoh it's easy to make mistakes as well (shrink lv first, resize2fs later - won't work, bye bye data)
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• 32[00:13:04] <BCMM> tobiasBora: i mean if the documentation said something like "use lvresize followed by the appropriate resize command for your filesystem, e.g. resize2fs", and assumed that people not using ext can work out how to resize their own FS, it wouldn't be entirely unreasonable
• 33[00:13:06] <tobiasBora> ok, so I can use -r without fear
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• 40[00:14:23] <BCMM> tobiasBora: as long as you're using ext2, ext3, ext4, reiserfs or XFS, yes
• 41[00:14:32] <frostschutz> tobiasBora, it should safely fail with an error message if the resize can't be made for whatever reason... I don't think it goes the extra mile of testing it on a snapshot first ;)
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• 44[00:14:50] <tobiasBora> ok thank you ! And if the fs is not supported, I'll get an error, or it fill just crash my fs ?
• 45[00:15:12] <tobiasBora> Oh ok thanks ;)
• 46[00:15:12] <themill> It will do one of those, yes
• 47[00:15:19] <tobiasBora> great
• 48[00:15:21] <frostschutz> but filesystem resizes can be icky (even when doing it manually). it's never wrong to have a backup
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• 50[00:17:18] <annadane> is there a list of debian applications? like, in the form of here are different file managers you can use, terminals, text editors, etc - i guess the wiki probably has it in the forum of ListOfFileManagers or such
• 51[00:17:24] <annadane> s/forum/form
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• 53[00:17:58] <inSync> annadane: apt-cache is my friend in that respect
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• 56[00:18:52] <n4dir> the german wiki of ubuntuusers.de has nice features and lists to quickly find several applications for a given problem. Doesn't help the non-Germans much ....
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• 59[00:18:57] <inSync> you might take advantage of using aptitude or synaptic
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• 61[00:19:18] <n4dir> perhaps the english has a similar thing, i simply don't know
• 62[00:19:26] <annadane> of course i'm sure i can literally just google "list of linux file managers" and see which are in debian
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• 64[00:20:21] <inSync> annadane: that will be faster
• 65[00:20:27] <inSync> maybe
• 66[00:20:49] <annadane> replaced-url
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• 71[00:21:49] <n4dir> you are looking for rather small solutions? or just in general?
• 72[00:22:37] <annadane> actually it's just a general curiosity thing
• 73[00:23:01] <annadane> i'm fine with what i have now, and later i can evaluate things based on number of dependencies etc
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• 76[00:23:13] <n4dir> ah, ok. Else small distros like antix often have interesting software (you seldom hear about)
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• 79[00:23:28] <annadane> but it's just nice to investigate alternatives, i guess
• 80[00:23:37] <n4dir> yeah. sure.
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• 82[00:24:42] <n4dir> back then i ran in new software recommendations at forums.debian.net all the time. But i think it isn't like that anymore (haven't been there)
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• 84[00:25:05] <annadane> forums.debian.net is also kind of dead :P
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• 86[00:26:34] <n4dir> i still think that so called "small" distros often have got a userbase very interested in what software is available. Their forums are often rather silent too though
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• 88[00:27:10] <n4dir> i just go to ubuntuusers.de ... most simple solution for me.
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• 92[00:28:21] <Paul--> hello all
• 93[00:28:35] <Paul--> !access point
• 94[00:28:40] <Paul--> !help
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• 98[00:30:15] <n4dir> annadane: what about this replaced-url
• 99[00:30:49] <annadane> right but that's every package
• 100[00:30:54] <annadane> under quite broad headings
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• 102[00:30:59] <annadane> i think just googling it is faster
• 103[00:31:12] <annadane> you honestly don't need much from programs anyway
• 104[00:31:13] <n4dir> yeah, pretty broad
• 105[00:31:31] <annadane> Paul--, what's your question?
• 106[00:31:50] <n4dir> besides cli-tools i usually get away with installing less than 5 programs (firefox, pidgin, tilda, sometimes claws-mail, and thats about it)
• 107[00:31:53] <Paul--> I'm looking for make a wifi AP under linux
• 108[00:32:34] <inSync> Paul--: check ou t hostapd
• 109[00:32:34] <Paul--> with a wifi card support AP mode
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• 112[00:33:45] <inSync> Paul--: replaced-url
• 113[00:35:51] <annadane> i guess probably the biggest thing is whether packages i want would be gtk or qt or whatever
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• 115[00:36:02] <annadane> plasma programs tend to not play nice under window managers
• 116[00:36:25] <sdk> annadane: ncurse ftw :)
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• 119[00:36:58] <n4dir> since i switched to window-managers (or xfce, depends) i mainly sticked to gtk apps too
• 120[00:37:17] <n4dir> but i sure got no idea what the reason would be ...
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• 142[00:57:00] <galex-713> Hi, I just used apt-src to get the source of a package conveniently
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• 146[00:57:47] <galex-713> I’d like to know: is there a way to get it *without* wanting to build it, like not installing all the *-dev packages? also, once I downloaded a source, if one day I want to delete it and the corresponding *-dev packages, how to do this properly?
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• 151[00:58:55] <themill> use apt-get source
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• 156[01:01:02] <galex-713> oh forgot it :/
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• 158[01:01:13] <galex-713> in fact
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• 160[01:01:27] <galex-713> wait what’s apt-src for then?
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• 162[01:01:40] <galex-713> also, how to uninstall the source and *dev stuff?
• 163[01:01:48] <galex-713> themill, ?
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• 165[01:02:00] <galex-713> (thanks for the apt-get source recall too)
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• 167[01:02:34] <themill> apt-src is for automatically tracking and building the source packages
• 168[01:02:57] <themill> remove the build-deps you no longer want using apt (assuming apt-src can't do that for you)
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• 171[01:04:02] <galex-713> themill, one by one looking at the output of the apt-src I did? or how to do that?
• 172[01:04:12] <galex-713> themill, what is apt-build for then?
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• 174[01:04:56] <themill> a similar thing
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• 179[01:07:46] <galex-713> themill, so I should copy-paste when apt-src did in say the output of sed and parse it to get the list of the hundred of -dev packages they installed and manually uninstall them with purge or something?
• 180[01:08:02] <galex-713> is there something simpler like a common dependency between them or are there all installed as “manual”?
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• 188[01:12:34] <n4dir> you could look at deborphan, but take care with it. Doesn't apt-get autoremove list them?
• 189[01:12:41] <themill> if you want reversible build-dep installation, you use mk-build-deps or a chroot
• 190[01:13:27] <themill> «aptitude markauto ~n-dev$~i» would catch lots of them but by no means all (plus might also catch things you don't want to lose)
• 191[01:13:31] <n4dir> i recall one has to install the dependencies needed to build a package as an extra step.
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• 193[01:14:15] <galex-713> n4dir, nope it doesn’t :/
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• 195[01:14:34] <n4dir> deborphan --guess-all neither, i guess
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• 199[01:15:14] <n4dir> !build-deps
• 200[01:15:14] <dpkg> build-deps are the packages you need to compile a package. "aptitude build-dep package-you-want-to-build" will install them, or use mk-build-deps (equivs package) to have undo-able build-dep installation. If using <uupdate> or <ssb> to update a package, you will likely need additional -dev packages. You can «/msg judd builddeps package».
• 201[01:15:44] <themill> galex-713: removing just the packages list in the Build-Depends* lines in the package might be enough
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• 205[01:17:50] <galex-713> themill, what build-depends?
• 206[01:18:06] <themill> the ones for the source packages you were working with
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• 209[01:18:47] <galex-713> what is it and where is it?
• 210[01:18:55] <n4dir> one of the files inside the debian/ directory has lines which list the dependencies, and also one for the Build-Depends
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• 212[01:19:00] <themill> apt-cache show whatever-it-was-you-did
• 213[01:19:05] <n4dir> i forgot the name of the file, but it is easy to spot
• 214[01:19:14] <themill> debian/control
• 215[01:19:17] <n4dir> thanks.
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• 218[01:20:27] <galex-713> ah yeah
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• 220[01:21:33] <galex-713> the sad thing is if I manually remove all these packages because I want to remove a source directory, but I want to keep some other application whose I don’t want to remove -dev dependencies, well I’m breaking something and it’s complicated not to
• 221[01:21:56] <galex-713> it’s sad there is no automated simple system to keep stuff clean around this (downloading sources and installing them)
• 222[01:22:28] <n4dir> (01:12:33 AM) themill: if you want reversible build-dep installation, you use mk-build-deps or a chroot
• 223[01:22:36] <n4dir> chroot is probably a good solution.
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• 225[01:23:01] <n4dir> !pbuilder
• 226[01:23:01] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, pbuilder is "personal package builder", a package which creates a chroot for building packages which are optionally targetted at releases other than the currently installed release. It is useful for checking that a package has the correct build-dependencies as well. apt-get install pbuilder && pager /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/README.Debian. Many pbuilder users end up wishing they had used <sbuild> all along
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• 230[01:23:34] <n4dir> i guess a simple chroot will do fine, pbuilder only came to my mind
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• 234[01:24:34] <galex-713> n4dir, how would the chroot work? like you install the -dev in the chroot? how do this mutualize the *-dev among the different packages to build while being able to separately autoremove them when removing a package?
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• 237[01:26:11] <n4dir> in a chroot i wouldn't bother to remove anything. I would just create a new chroot (if i think i need one)
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• 241[01:27:07] <galex-713> not exactly clean to me
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• 243[01:27:15] <arbir> hello
• 244[01:27:17] <galex-713> !mk-build-deps
• 245[01:27:17] <dpkg> mk-build-deps is a script in the <devscripts> package that creates a package called "yourpackage-build-deps" that depends on the <build-dep> packages; combining this with apt's <autoremove> feature allows you to remove build-deps after you have installed them. mk-build-deps requires the <equivs> package to be installed too.
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• 247[01:27:39] <arbir> I have questions about Sid, however i am unable to join #Debian-Next
• 248[01:27:47] <arbir> Can I ask the question here ?
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• 250[01:27:56] <galex-713> *this* is what I was looking for :D yet it’s sad it’s not integratable into apt-src/build
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• 252[01:28:15] <annadane> arbir, next is on irc.oftc.net, not freenode
• 253[01:28:35] <arbir> annadane: thank you
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• 255[01:29:14] <themill> (fwiw I'd pick sbuild over pbuilder as the setup and configuration is much simpler)
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• 258[01:30:52] <n4dir> themill: pbuilder (sbuild) always start with a "clean" chroot, do i recall correct?
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• 261[01:31:45] <themill> they can, yes. either from a tarball or cow or overlayfs
• 262[01:31:49] <themill> or lvm snapshots
• 263[01:32:00] <TacticReplicatio> hi all o/
• 264[01:32:16] <TacticReplicatio> I just reinstalled a debian9
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• 266[01:32:50] <n4dir> okay, thanks. ("can", i already assumed there are several options ...).
• 267[01:33:21] <TacticReplicatio> dev/sdb2 being the root
• 268[01:33:33] <TacticReplicatio> I had a windows 7 installation on dev/sdb1
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• 270[01:33:52] <TacticReplicatio> but after the new installation, the windows entry is missing from the grub
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• 273[01:34:20] <TacticReplicatio> I compiled grub-customizer to add the entry (seen from a topic on the internet)
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• 275[01:35:08] <TacticReplicatio> according to people, grub-customizer should have automatically add (at least detect) the windows entry
• 276[01:35:13] <TacticReplicatio> what can I do? :)
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• 286[01:40:47] <kion> TacticReplicatio, check your partitions to make sure the windows partition is still there!
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• 289[01:41:59] <kion> TacticReplicatio, you might have by mistake chosen to use all disk space for Debian, in which case your windows partition will be lost forever (getting rid of ws is a good thing usually ;))
• 290[01:42:00] <TacticReplicatio> @kion, It is, I'm able to mount it (and check the content)
• 291[01:42:06] <annadane> as kion said, i'd check that first before resorting to compiling grub-customizers
• 292[01:42:38] <annadane> also because i'm not sure that that's the debian way, anyway
• 293[01:43:28] <L3gacy> Good bacon unto all and unto all some good bacon #Just7aramThings
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• 296[01:44:07] <kion> TacticReplicatio, then it would be a good idea to mount the partition and do a backup of your data if you have not already done it
• 297[01:44:31] <TacticReplicatio> I don't think I made any mistake during the installation (manual partition, /dev/sdb2 dm-crypt, keep /dev/sdb1 instact)
• 298[01:45:04] <TacticReplicatio> @kion space disk issue here, I do not have enough space anywhere to backup the data lol
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• 300[01:45:14] <kion> TacticReplicatio, then, i'm not sure, and hopefully someone with more knowledge than me can jump in, but the next thing is to do a grub reset so that it recognizes the partitions and creates the correct entries for you to choose at boot time
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• 303[01:45:24] <TacticReplicatio> sadly my NAS is full :(
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• 305[01:45:58] <TacticReplicatio> @kion thank you anyway :)
• 306[01:46:05] <wald0> on which file is defined the version installed of a package?
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• 309[01:46:26] <wald0> seems like /var/lib/dpkg/info/ don't include that
• 310[01:46:30] <kion> TacticReplicatio, then go ahead without backing up, it's your decision...
• 311[01:47:40] <kion> TacticReplicatio, the command is "sudo update-grub"
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• 313[01:48:30] <TacticReplicatio> Let's try! (Here we go, fucking up my install again lol)
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• 315[01:48:47] <kion> TacticReplicatio, Go ahead! and let us know..
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• 320[01:51:03] <themill> wald0: that data is private to dpkg -- why do you ask?
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• 328[02:00:36] <TacticReplicatio> hi (again) all
• 329[02:00:45] <kion> TacticReplicatio, did it work?
• 330[02:00:47] <TacticReplicatio> still no windows entry
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• 333[02:01:05] <wald0> themill: just to have a faster alternative to apt-cache madison to get the version
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• 336[02:01:26] <kion> TacticReplicatio, sorry bud, why not give windows for good? It feels great! belive me lol
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• 338[02:01:46] <TacticReplicatio> answer is age of empire haha
• 339[02:02:11] <TacticReplicatio> this is the only reason I keep my dirty windows on my computer
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• 341[02:02:34] <themill> wald0: are you querying this often enough that speed is a problem?
• 342[02:02:35] <TacticReplicatio> using linux for 6 years now, no regrets ^^
• 343[02:02:48] <LtL> TacticReplicatio: give os-prober a shot
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• 345[02:04:18] <kion> LtL what is os-prober?
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• 347[02:04:56] <themill> wald0: dpkg-query will be faster btw
• 348[02:05:12] <TacticReplicatio> I'll try right now, keep you in touch
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• 352[02:05:33] <LtL> kion: it finds windows, usually when you install w/dual-booting in mind. If he used manual partitioning it may have skipped running it.
• 353[02:06:19] <LtL> kion: its supposed to find *any* OS
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• 355[02:06:40] <LtL> usually does too
• 356[02:06:41] <kion> Ltl Thanks! I will read the man page
• 357[02:06:55] <LtL> kion: there is none iirc
• 358[02:07:34] <kion> LtL yes, just found out.... "See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available"
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• 400[02:30:56] <RedSoxFan07> Anybody else miss banshee-extension-lyrics in Buster? It's in Sid and Stretch, but not Buster.
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• 402[02:31:32] <annadane> ,v banshee-extension-lyrics
• 403[02:31:33] <judd> Package: banshee-extension-lyrics on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.4.0-1; jessie: 2.4.0-4; sid: 2.4.0-4; stretch: 2.4.0-4
• 404[02:31:41] <annadane> correct
• 405[02:32:12] <annadane> RedSoxFan07, replaced-url
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• 407[02:32:34] <annadane> bug #873873
• 408[02:32:35] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 414[02:35:00] <RedSoxFan07> annadane: Very interesting.
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• 418[02:36:23] <annadane> and also probably replaced-url
• 419[02:36:24] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 420[02:36:34] <annadane> ,v libwebkitgtk-1.0-0
• 421[02:36:35] <judd> Package: libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.8.1-3.4; jessie: 2.4.9-1~deb8u1; buster: 2.4.11-3; sid: 2.4.11-3; stretch: 2.4.11-3
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• 423[02:36:49] <annadane> ah, perhaps not. but anyway, enough spam on my part
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• 451[03:03:51] <wald0> themill: thx for the tip, actually i think that apt-cache madison is almost fast as dpkg-query -W, apt-cache policy is much slower btw
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• 453[03:04:55] <themill> it's not in my testing
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• 455[03:06:40] <Johnjay> ,v weechat
• 456[03:06:41] <judd> Package: weechat on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.3.8-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 0.3.8-1+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 0.4.3-2~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.0.1-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.0.1-1+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1.0.1-1+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.0.1-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 1.6-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.6-1+deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 1.6-1+deb9u2; sid: 1.9-1;
• 457[03:06:42] <judd> buster: 1.9.1-1; sid: 1.9.1-1
• 458[03:07:10] <Johnjay> stretch 1.6... lol
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• 461[03:09:11] * themill wonders what's funny about the stable release containing the current version when that release was made
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• 465[03:10:01] <Johnjay> i don't recall it that way.
• 466[03:10:13] <Johnjay> i thought it was 1.8 or 1.9 when the release happened
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• 468[03:10:26] <themill> nope
• 469[03:10:39] <wald0> themill: well, im in wheezy :/
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• 471[03:11:35] <themill> wald0: well past time to do something about that ;)
• 472[03:11:42] <TacticReplicatio> hi all
• 473[03:11:45] <Johnjay> hmm, my raspberry pi agrees with you themill
• 474[03:11:53] <Johnjay> I must have compiled and installed it myself then
• 475[03:11:58] <TacticReplicatio> I just re-installed my debian earlier today
• 476[03:12:18] <TacticReplicatio> (installed deb9 from usb iso)
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• 478[03:12:29] <TacticReplicatio> I'm facing a windows boot issue right now
• 479[03:13:01] <TacticReplicatio> bootmgr absent when I try to boot on /dev/sdb1 which is my windows install
• 480[03:13:23] <TacticReplicatio> how could I restore the bootmgr (and keeping obviously my grub working)
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• 482[03:14:37] <Logg> I don't use windows anymore so idk how to make it work with grub, but if you go into bios boot menu, you can select the windows boot manager, and it should work from there
• 483[03:14:42] <Logg> TacticReplicatio,
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• 490[03:18:38] <TacticReplicatio> It doesn't :(
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• 496[03:19:58] <Logg> idk then. if the windows boot manager option doesn't work, I guess put in the windows recovery cd. probably mess up your grub though.
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• 498[03:20:46] <TacticReplicatio> surely gonna mess up grub. It will override it with the MBR (which is not what I want)
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• 500[03:20:53] <TacticReplicatio> damn
• 501[03:21:11] <Logg> yeah, well, if the windows boot loader is damaged, and you want to boot windows, gotta fix it.
• 502[03:21:24] <Logg> then put in your linux live cd and fix grub
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• 504[03:21:39] <LtL> !fixmbr
• 505[03:21:39] <dpkg> To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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• 507[03:22:15] <LtL> TacticReplicatio: best to re-install windows first.
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• 509[03:22:45] <TacticReplicatio> I save theses commands for later, thanks
• 510[03:23:04] <TacticReplicatio> do you think that the "boot-repair" utility on ubuntu live could resolve the issue?
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• 512[03:23:38] <TacticReplicatio> I do have a windows cd install, I do not have internet connection (using my phone right now)
• 513[03:24:10] <TacticReplicatio> (do not judge me :p)
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• 517[03:26:20] <LtL> TacticReplicatio: start clean, install windows, in win disk management shrink the ntfs partition leaving un-allocated space then install debian… os-prober *should* find windows near the end phase of the 'nix install.
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• 519[03:27:32] <LtL> TacticReplicatio: if its win10 all bets are off but it should work.
• 520[03:27:48] <TacticReplicatio> sadly, the install from scratch is not possible for me right now,mostly because of work deadline
• 521[03:27:52] <TacticReplicatio> it's win7 btw
• 522[03:28:07] <TacticReplicatio> I cannot afford a windows install
• 523[03:28:11] <Logg> if you need to work now, use debian
• 524[03:28:51] <LtL> TacticReplicatio: a fast machine could do it all in an hour or two
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• 526[03:28:58] <TacticReplicatio> using some shits only available on win7 (not wineable)
• 527[03:29:03] <Logg> also, windows repair disk.
• 528[03:29:04] <TacticReplicatio> I'll try the boot-repair option
• 529[03:29:15] <TacticReplicatio> if it doesn't work...
• 530[03:29:36] <TacticReplicatio> hell, if it doesn't work, I'll give a look at the windows install cd way
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• 533[03:30:05] <TacticReplicatio> but damn, what a loose of time for a wrong checked box during the install (erase data from boot partition)
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• 535[03:30:18] <LtL> ouch
• 536[03:30:19] <TacticReplicatio> anyway, it's on me, so...
• 537[03:31:01] <TacticReplicatio> thank you guys for your answers!
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• 539[03:31:21] <LtL> TacticReplicatio: best of luck man :)
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• 541[03:32:30] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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• 543[03:33:34] <tobiasBora> I'm trying to unmount root partition, but several services are very annoying, like rsxslog, that comes back each tine I systemctl stop it. Any idea to really stop it ?
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• 547[03:34:56] <Logg> use a linux live cd to do whatever you're trying to do to that partition
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• 549[03:35:06] <LtL> tobiasBora: disable it
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• 559[03:37:42] <tobiasBora> LtL: great, thanks !
• 560[03:38:11] <LtL> tobiasBora: welcome
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• 693[05:06:06] <Upoufou> be back i need helppp
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• 695[05:06:29] <annadane> Upoufou, hi, what's the problem?
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• 697[05:07:07] <Upoufou> cat /sys/class/net/wlp4s0/carrier # error if card is down; 0 if up, and 1 if connected ?? cat /sys/class/net/wlp4s0/operstate # show down always, just if connected up
• 698[05:07:16] <Upoufou> hello annadane
• 699[05:08:01] <Upoufou> I try to found the files in /sys who say my card is up
• 700[05:08:20] <Upoufou> And i very complicated i have found in sys/devices sys/bus /sys/class
• 701[05:08:27] <Upoufou> But i can't find it
• 702[05:08:49] <Upoufou> i'm deseperad
• 703[05:08:51] <Upoufou> :(
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• 706[05:10:23] <Upoufou> and for /link_mode
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• 708[05:10:52] <Upoufou> If i desactived with gnomenetwork manager link_mode say down
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• 710[05:11:07] <Upoufou> but if i trys with ip link set /up/down he not change
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• 712[05:12:45] <Upoufou> so i think i do suicid me lool
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• 714[05:13:08] <petemc> Upoufou: why not check interface status with ping or another network tool?
• 715[05:14:03] <Upoufou> petemc because i have see the files sys/ and i want use these files. I know commandes but i do filter with awk sed.
• 716[05:14:22] <Upoufou> The folder sys/ is great so what i use her files
• 717[05:14:33] <petemc> the interface can be up but not configured
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• 720[05:16:18] <Upoufou> petemc yes i know
• 721[05:16:37] <Upoufou> petemc is just for show the informations
• 722[05:16:44] <Upoufou> because i use it in script
• 723[05:17:02] <Upoufou> but i not found how show juste if up or down
• 724[05:17:10] <Upoufou> i have found other info
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• 726[05:17:22] <Upoufou> et same fit grave chier
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• 728[05:18:40] <Upoufou> :( past 5 hours on lol
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• 731[05:20:04] <Upoufou> replaced-url
• 732[05:20:17] <Upoufou> i have strace ip link, ethtool, etc..
• 733[05:20:33] <Upoufou> can't foun the f*** files ^^
• 734[05:21:08] <petemc> there is no file, its accessed via ioctls
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• 738[05:22:25] <themill> Upoufou: I wonder if it's worth taking a step back from your problem and explaining what you are trying to achieve
• 739[05:22:38] <Upoufou> yeap
• 740[05:22:51] <Upoufou> just second i need tabbaco
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• 744[05:23:53] <Upoufou> themill : cat /sys/class/net/wlp4s0/carrier # error if card is down; 0 if up, and 1 if connected ?? cat /sys/class/net/wlp4s0/operstate # show down always, just if connected up
• 745[05:24:07] <Upoufou> themill i try to find the files who say if my card is up or not
• 746[05:24:09] <acagastya_> Anyone, who knows how to change compose key on Stretch/GNOME?
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• 750[05:24:48] <themill> Upoufou: that's not what you are trying to achieve
• 751[05:25:42] <Upoufou> replaced-url
• 752[05:25:59] <Upoufou> i trying to achivied that for m script
• 753[05:26:14] <themill> that is at best the step that you think is needed. What are you actually trying to achieve here?
• 754[05:26:30] <themill> Are you trying to rewrite network manager (badly) in shell?
• 755[05:26:32] <Upoufou> this is for card up or down!!!!
• 756[05:26:36] <Upoufou> no
• 757[05:26:43] <Upoufou> is juste for show information
• 758[05:26:55] <Upoufou> no for write in sys files
• 759[05:26:56] <themill> That's not something that is interesting
• 760[05:28:07] <Upoufou> hmm why ?
• 761[05:28:22] <themill> because it's gives no information
• 762[05:28:26] <Upoufou> for me is intertesting i have lost 5 hours xD
• 763[05:28:36] <themill> !xy problem
• 764[05:28:36] <dpkg> Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See replaced-url
• 765[05:28:59] <Upoufou> ah ahh
• 766[05:29:08] <Upoufou> the way
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• 768[05:29:30] <Upoufou> the way is lot of change if you hear all peoples
• 769[05:29:46] <Upoufou> i know is easy with ip link or nmcli or other
• 770[05:30:15] <Upoufou> but if syst/class have the files is so good, and the folder is so good created i think inpired for creat a folder like that
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• 772[05:30:40] <Upoufou> but the files no show the good informatiosn
• 773[05:30:47] <Upoufou> like carrier
• 774[05:31:13] <Upoufou> and
• 775[05:31:27] <Upoufou> is possible to use on usr GNU/LINUX
• 776[05:31:38] <Upoufou> no need ifconfig iproute2 or other
• 777[05:31:48] <Upoufou> so you can help me sir ?
• 778[05:31:51] <Upoufou> :)
• 779[05:32:14] <themill> I think both petemc and I have answered this
• 780[05:32:48] <Upoufou> no file for see that so
• 781[05:33:08] <Upoufou> but carrier show that
• 782[05:33:22] <Upoufou> just doesn't function properly
• 783[05:33:37] <Upoufou> :/
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• 786[05:42:32] <Paul--> how know if a wifi card have AP capability ?
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• 788[05:42:50] <Paul--> I mean use it as a access point
• 789[05:45:18] <binary106> is there a ram disk i can store some tmp files in?
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• 791[05:46:07] <themill> binary106: it's easy enough to make your /tmp a tmpfs or you can make your own tmpfs
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• 794[05:47:08] <binary106> thanks, so tmps==ramdisk
• 795[05:47:21] <binary106> and i see that in fstab?
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• 836[06:14:53] <n4dir> i replaced systemd with sysv, now startx fails, but slim works.
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• 838[06:15:52] <plasmoduck> Im not running Debian on my Android phone
• 839[06:16:37] <plasmoduck> n4dir You shouldn't mess around with systemd
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• 841[06:17:22] <n4dir> thats why i removed it :-)
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• 844[06:17:44] <Airforce> spooky
• 845[06:17:46] <Airforce> wow!
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• 847[06:18:15] <Airforce> this server is way bigger then DALnet
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• 849[06:18:33] <annadane> n4 is a regular, i trust them to know what they're talking about
• 850[06:18:57] <annadane> of course, _i'm_ a regular and usually don't know what i'm talking about...
• 851[06:19:13] <Airforce> what we have here?
• 852[06:19:15] <Airforce> bots?
• 853[06:19:16] <n4dir> lol. can't say so, from what i have read of you annadane :-)
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• 855[06:19:41] <n4dir> yeah, i already did it a few times, there is even a factoid about it, but i forgot the "name"
• 856[06:19:58] <n4dir> this time i left systemd, which worked too, of course.
• 857[06:20:26] <T_Karras> hey
• 858[06:20:32] <n4dir> i had that "startx fails" problem already once, but i forgot the details, its long ago
• 859[06:20:34] <T_Karras> anybody who works with the bug tracker here?
• 860[06:20:49] <T_Karras> I accidently posted a personal email that I need removed from a bug report.
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• 862[06:21:25] <themill> T_Karras: given that the mail gets sent on to lots of other places, it's not really possible to expunge. The internet always remembers.
• 863[06:21:46] <T_Karras> I know...
• 864[06:21:51] <T_Karras> I was a bit new to reporting bugs.
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• 868[06:23:25] <n4dir> i seem to recall that you *can* edit already send bug-reports. But i sure don't know any details
• 869[06:23:46] <themill> nope
• 870[06:23:56] <n4dir> ah,ok, thanks.
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• 930[07:07:12] <Rixius> Hey all, Just got some new hardware, and need a more current nvidia-driver version than stretch or stretch-backports provides. Was trying to follow replaced-url
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• 932[07:07:47] <Johnjay> Rixius: does it not follow the ./configure, make, make install trinity?
• 933[07:08:29] <Rixius> Johnjay: Nope, a debian/rules buildscript, followed svn-buildpackage with args.
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• 941[07:10:25] <Johnjay> I wonder if that's covered in the debian handbook...
• 942[07:10:37] <OtakuSenpai> ,v openmw
• 943[07:10:38] <judd> Package: openmw on amd64 -- sid/contrib: 0.41.0-1+b1
• 944[07:10:48] <themill> Rixius: if the packages build ok, then you should be able to install them with dpkg -i
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• 981[07:27:49] <anothero> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: bradjones plasmoduck pvn spacebug^ w0bni ShockingIsntIt mvaenskae bw_ gonyere nomic Nitori flugger scc m712 fauweh anthony25 ledixus jor percY- arha nomad_dw GJdan aesin nicoulaj ggherdov asaba hexhaxtron mz` dynek dirac1 serban Gurty toffe2 reallycooldude Immanuel namix nutron|w marie1972 ribasushi tomocha_ swordsmanz k1412 aindilis gmh daniel-s awwal cryptodan_mobile planetmaker ibex soa
• 982[07:27:49] <jqhwkofc> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: sulvone Trieste Melos georgeowell ripdog nku robotpanic sturmtrup masuberu d1b Blanco Dad` sztelke smurfd scc pugfantus sbeyer cdown VBrain tuvwx_ Bombo dondelcaro gluon galex-713 torrezno rogst syamaoka hexhaxtron quite Gabemo me1 awwal thinkpad solarnetone integral N3X15 brouette NightKhaos jhutchins jakew nkuttler satanist Diaoul GNU\colossus Janhouse smidlers vonsyd0w AWindowsKrill usernm nobody
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• 985[07:27:49] <|likeo> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: Hestben slax0r armin Downer Xcr0nZA metts s0lar1s percY- cyboman33 Sleepy63 chen |ifei5good LambdaComplex Mrloafbot_ elliot007 phebus nauticalnexus krups hid3 Dollar CyberManifest qtch sjk anirban__ nux stu_meat hessu rozie musca Cabanossi mreznik Geshman otih dak simp HappyLoaf mcint Echo6 nadley ivan cherti amorel_ JesseWalling ketralnis LeandroLuiz gmh zerick k_sze[work] BlessJah amospalla
• 986[07:27:49] <natalia`j> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: gacekjk levifig flugger jmcnaught safe mastensg binary106 hobbyquaker Cujo ibttis bryceml mundus enki mdorenka heinrich5991 pugfantus osx kmd Unit193 MaXPow hikiko wspthr Arsiesys GeraldW mdroid infinity_ MicroMars Acrisor HotSwap toozej lukky513 ahf_ baba__ mreznik zack6849 Peetz0r hank me1 a_j__c SwedeMike ProfessorKaos64 raSter^ atwar fooctrl adellam ibex yemel rtur twisted` dbristow
• 987[07:27:49] <tuto> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: percY- Modeuse ioudas^working folivora yokel clickjack _rubik Ximensi0ns bcd syamaoka nikow fiet tiin57 cybrNaut rrva Hijiri Enrico_Menotti mukmuk llimeht luuh beardface acperkins SerajewelKS Al_lA JelmerD planetmaker roastedsnowflake etp sunkan ineiros_ Hestben Zardoz jlacroix bogus- Fastolph Roedy roylaprat cryptic ThoMe JStoker PhilSliderS CEnnis91 a_j__c zack6849 LordLamer d-k lstanley Almtesh iodev EnergyCoffee
• 988[07:27:49] <jqhwkofc> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: Profound johanbr talin bove thib N3X15 thms_ edi moozer m4rCsi Toffe cvr ThoMe tremolo deetwelve AfroThundr _systemd_is_evil Attoy GeneralDiscourse b0xii kline docmax bodeezl mr__tea iodev flipp pixdamix RoyK^ sturmtrup sirecote SirLagz Dad` baum NeilHanlon thecoffemaker architekt iTeV sobkas roguelazer seyeongkim Ellied Pugabyte grim4593 Amplificator kdragon Adbray ihre Poster Colti Airforce
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• 991[07:27:49] <anothero> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: test659898[m] Marbug m4rCsi daniel-s bipul dpkg kerrhau xSmurf TmvC kbob braingain soa ryan-c verboese waz0wski Dave[m]1 metaxy qman__ Artox digdilem in1t3r yemel d1b nhandler ledixus orb ibttis eki sulvone oberstein _rubik fyrril ShockingIsntIt tekmo_ riddle Guest38449 thurin rxo dayten donofrio ageis elios Voldenet zwamkat sweatsuit serban Jurkki davetk bw_ heinrich5991
• 992[07:27:49] <Teddybe> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: Enrico_Menotti inei rolig ksk m4rCsi mattgirv ngc0202 nyuszika7h churnd dak MobileMatt AimHere maf_p Raed n4n0` Aebian dselect andhoy relaxed ArchDuke skagerak hiya brimonk rOss^64 thoros lexruee HappyLoaf petan CME mutante Croepha mcintosh shinnya usernm nighty- d-k eldritch osro kirkland oberstein ghormoon Granis x42 Waggie ggherdov rymax99 zululee roylaprattep serban frankie
• 993[07:27:49] <guest510> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: oerheks mindstorm gandiva NickyP hicks_ sidmo_ vectr0n|cloud {41444d494e} BeamWatcher baba__ civillian james41382 bertbob Arkaniad Riku snadge shinnya Hoosilon petemc integral msantana Trieste thekingofbandit qzo CyberManifest alexlist `z Canucktux alkyl gby SirCmpwn eleusis electro33 osro jareth_ iTeV atlas Waggie satbyy nikow ab reu otih Relicka Groenleer l9 Tristan-Speccy berndj ceptor MrAlexandr0
• 994[07:27:50] <swpow> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: eleusis guardian HappyLoaf sobkas crowd42 bitgeek kj4 reu gildarts tsglove f3bruary fleaz unixbassen chachasmooth_ rednul JZTech101 codebam askz thms_ thoros ibttis hexhaxtron |stefan| raSter^ funnel n0nada jas4711 mz` b0l3x SWAT mundus necrogami eb0t dayten clorophormo lankanmon g4spr0m obamaburger fatalerrors JesseWalling v01t jhutchins latez selsper wooden amd_0x51 Devastator yemel BenNZ Merixer
• 995[07:27:50] <jqhwkofc> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: dustinm` xar- eck CompWizrd zer0x AndrewPRS CEnnis91 flugger tuvwx_ glebihan daemonkeeper pugfantus Te[u]K pseubodot dza r3 Cork fyrril thurin Voldenet gehaxelt Peetz0r pvn debchange namix mkam[m] NickyP ptx0 guios Lxrowe Trellmor krzych dogui bryceml jor riex bzed MicroMars integral moozer Sabaku mns gratuxri GrimKriegor chen verboese satanist jnes likcoras therock247uk
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• 999[07:27:50] <|likeo> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: Dagger rdleon vutral mac- Al_lA JelmerD grumble doogaille bluszcz coderphive fyrril kbob Dr-Shadow yonder ikevin Jacob843 Riku netzach television nbags SerajewelKS Church- sobkas _systemd_is_evil Shadowcrit msev- alexbligh1 `Kevin oliva babilen duoi StephenS dza smidlers _aeris_ otih Olufunmilayo snadge osro FoolishOwl RyanKnack lebster rax- WernerVonCroy pelegreno_ wytchmaster ksk nO0b remote plasmoduck
• 1000[07:27:50] <obsce> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: Zauberfisch grim4593 damiano exezin neskau tiwake fyrril typosaurus tuto Ryushin linuxthefish debsan SolarAquarion spooky cbdev SleePy Croepha mundus peteski kchr sayo- Noah0504 _0x5eb_ nyuszika7h rakor James_T ToeSnacks shoogz evilbug juhop LV-426 AWindowsKrill magenbrot k4tfish sqz lebster APexil rkta rax- askz oliva baba__ Arieh g4spr0m mandeep BroTr gvvg__ meLon sloucher cryptodan_mobile
• 1001[07:27:50] <|likeo> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: nadley jor Guest76936 Cisien fyrril stoffepojken Masaomi[m] cybrNaut opal nku Shadowcrit t0aster0ven ffernand paradizelost alreece45 deetwelve led_belly civillian bodeezl sethkush AlwaysHigh ZetFury Aebian stu_meat Airforce berndj heap_ egos qmr pentiumone133 ahf_ renzhi ed_ jimmyTb_ amospalla GoatAvenger Letze__ Eryn_1983_FL gby juul zululee platicus2 noexcept sdx23 melvin c0ncealed Attoy Blanco bier chud
• 1002[07:27:50] <|likeo> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: BaW wzyy2 qzo sobkas television Arsiesys HelloShitty k1412 |ifei5good Guest38449 jrtc27 colo-work grim4593 Olufunmilayo imMute rxo lparmentier[m] Mmike domovoy_ nadley damiano bardkorren nprs kculpis kbob BbT0n amanualgoldstein PIBER fred`` gvvg__ osro mavhq LambdaComplex staircrusher deetwelve Toris guideline_ rax- tekmo_ Guest76936 coderphive Mathisen pseubodot alan_o botho A|TARIS citypw atf L235 Night-Shade
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• 1006[07:27:50] <obsce> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: BlueByte_ selsper thinkpad kallesbar APLU brick pugfantus atf soee pinky sunkan Gm4n rachelfish mavhq lebster DarkDevil Galihom vutral ggherdov Mrloafbot_ ToeSnacks shadoxx doogaille lankanmon Tsutsukakushi grim4593 Bierjpg|XeonX8 jssjr eb0t Aristar flokuehn Colti Olipro Pelle` raSter^ mukmuk RoyK^ wzyy2 Deific mz` boturk xar- StathisA sparty james41382 Kobaz alan_o rozie WernerVonCroy CodingWithClass
• 1007[07:27:50] <MaXPow> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: bier Comstock Colti cheapie basicmiracle bachler johnnyfive tomodachi kbob davetk flyingkiwi integral tobiasBora vamiry rtur r0Oter cmichel daniel-s epony teraflops iter roniez AciD` maik wspthr fatalerrors thekingofbandit TimWolla AimHere Xcr0nZA Pwnna Zerant Gm4n daemonkeeper stu_meat zyley _KaszpiR_ HappyLoaf BotaniCar neskau Gazooo rax- insidious Comnenus HauM1 RT_FM in1t3r Esya sdk noexcept
• 1008[07:27:50] <seifull> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: digdilem miklcct crayon fred`` promach noexcept haircode skney webbyz Rhuarc Melos bipul nO0b dgandhi tiin57 borsin v01t hex2a barteks2x jfsCommit uberhatjoe karakedi sn0wmonster vOYtEC vuser loddfafnir mf|cloud thepilot[m] wafflejock r3 bw_ nevyn tobias1 atlas shoogz fatalerrors Amun_Ra strass patterson michaelni Guest55591 grepper fooctrl BotaniCar JMichaelX TMan459
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• 1010[07:27:50] <guest510> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: tuto peope hikiko t0aster0ven _systemd_is_evil phebus Comstock n0nada abracadaniel verboese rook2pawn hex2a nitemare do0m daniel2 GhostInTheShell nyaomi RT_FM thoros teclo- binary106 Quantumcross elik Piggy JZA shoogz gluon Hooloovo0 johanbr loddfafnir Incepti0n freakyy Tsutsu dgandhi kInOzAwA babyflakes gonyere kolla Johnjay Keitaro Exagone313 fnmueller osx vincent_c gigetoo stwalkerster djz88 Scuttle lankanmon teraflo
• 1011[07:27:50] <obsce> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: sandroandrade Loomaanaatii phaseNi SkIzZaTo Spitfire Dave[m]1 jssjr simp edvb Brian- led_belly reu jdiez sudhackar lift installibre benj_ abracadaniel doogaille rysiek|pl sturmtrup trench ScottE rkta luz1 CME Skaag tuvwx_ koollman T_Karras lionheartActual tsglove thecliguy mac- Python1320 nkuttler miklcct ShockingIsntIt m4dh4tt4 ghost43 vvz bezaban Airforce CeBe chen Toris Schmiel RichiH boxrick JC_SoCal
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• 1013[07:27:50] <don> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: Ralin3 usernm klow roniez Tristan-Speccy Esya tomodachi binary106 Linlz Airforce Arrowmaster talin enki atf xcm chaolog sasukeskapa tw nadley fyrril quasisane ebarch Hachya or4n vook Keitaro andhoy webbyz GhostInTheShell Danielss89_ brimonk gcore___ seyeongkim makz b0l3x davetk Mercury_Vapor APLU ggherdov cvr sunkan t0aster0ven spanglesontoast seprob dak likcoras bitch Lazuruz Voldenet oberling
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• 1016[07:27:50] <don> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: edwardly zyley chrstphrchvz JelmerD daniel-s sloucher juul wytchmaster simp twisted` akaWolf hipp webbyz hammer065 cliluw GJdan shpingrlde karlamrhein Orbitrix phebus reallycooldude rysiek|pl tab verblendet mdorenka deetwelve Sabotender Henry151 rolig verm1n thoros BWMerlin subpath smidlers GoatAvenger tuvwx_ wooden acperkins loeken JesseWalling preview bzed CompWizrd ThomasJ|d vaidy Waggie Aristide led_bel
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• 1018[07:27:50] <don> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: GDiaX pipeep |stefan| blind bionix sparty alxd crayon blackwell imMute SaltySolomon ujjain ShaRose adellam sirecote jqhwkofc raSter^ Renari ungali obsce schmidta_ likcoras TuxShells bumbar metts lukky513 dreamon_ bove kolla Esya CHRiSNEW eb0t_ pvn HappyLoaf Dad` Guest40802 WebDawg hiya Church- SerajewelKS marie1972 mete Comnenus zl33pyr JPT Willis cdown Janhouse gareth__ PaulePanter
• 1019[07:27:50] <anothero> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: kirkland Ji Scuttle L235 ledixus necrose99 tadz mossman CyberManifest tccki Keitaro moritz_ lift slax0r Arahael cmichel blue abracadan fearnothing benj_ thurin noodle PaulePanter t3eblinder1 toozej pseubodot Fastolph TReK vuser kini lsv flokuehn jimmyTb_ mkam[m] ecelis stackofcats bureado fatalerrors debchange tripkin metaxy koollman qoreQyaS `Kevin plasmoduck rozie Ximensi0ns phebus dTal pppktz
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• 1027[07:27:50] <zvpsb> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: petemc fyrril bkraptor peteski abracadaniel nbags rachelfish soee noodle l9 kallesbar genpaku MyIgel de-facto bradjones ariador Danielss89_ TvL2386 wzyy2 klon Schmiel plicease_ Wotac aedinius bzed StathisA sweatsuit riex Rockj Kobaz JelmerD r00t snadge DK2 installibre StephenS thunderrd pseubodot preaction peter SM0TVI jqhwkofc hagbard_celine phinxy LambdaComplex Scuttle pugfantus bureado peope sangy
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• 1032[07:27:51] <zvpsb> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: brouette GJdan ghostyyy wytchmaster k-man grinsekatze vuser evotopid Jurkki db` nitemare cmam makz sudhackar JZTech101 fundies Guest40802 pawalls rymax99 cheapie nadley bureado babyflakes DarkDevil LambdaComplex peope acperkins metts Cujo Phibonacci joze dreamon_ sandeepkr RT_FM detectiveaoi chrstphrchvz miklcct like2k1 denken Namidairo staircrusher iTeV Ilie[] thoros fnmueller Sabotender timeless SQL
• 1033[07:27:51] <zvpsb> JOIN #LRH EFNET TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION: fooctrl atwar argusbr domovoy_ dubwoc xsdg precise detectiveaoi vOYtEC internat atf scc NoCode Nevolution2 lebster musti Dagger moozer StathisA iter Hobby_boy JZA f5ck tripkin abra0 ghormoon RoyK Stummi gandiva martyn_h blackwell nebul8 Savemech SwK Noskcaj Firztspawn deetwelve sasukeskapa PhonicUK kInOzAwA s7r eatgz distantorigin MyIgel r0bby nathanhi seprob freanux amd_0x51 JelmerD
• 1034[07:27:51] <zvpsb> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: dos1 Kilo`byte atlas Merixer Deviance fnkr ghostyyy rednul sukaeto k1412 strass mkam[m] fyrril Quick_Wango `ryban nrs_ idmistir Dj_Dexter JasonO metts kri msantana disi adellam devurandom lukky513 foriin diytto dza DustyDingo dave4925 egos ghoti strungout chrstphrchvz obamaburger dtux Comstock ksk v4s- Cosmofile imMute de-facto enki Werring wizzy_ n0nada vincent_c shpingrlde edi
• 1035[07:27:51] <zvpsb> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: Jdbye martyn_h systo hid3 Savemech rOss^64 craysiii hexnewbie grumble s0ph0s ponyofdeath Incepti0n dudz jfsCommit sayo- teej Aristide amd_0x51 TReK d-k peter pinnen zz_zz urzds genpaku xingu Puckel_ obsce petn-randall Cabanossi vamiry krzych blue thallada fnmueller darkstalker Druid stu_meat Apeiron` osx edd mandeep WebDawg Scuttle natalia`j cef tec___ db` [Gunner] MyIgel
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• 1052[07:28:20] <evilbug> uh oh, more talking smack about me. hold my earrings, bros.
• 1053[07:28:45] <OtakuSenpai> >_>
• 1054[07:28:58] <Voldenet> unleash your power
• 1055[07:28:59] <AWindowsKrill> wonderful
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• 1077[07:29:47] <zonc> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: necrose99 kolla nomic Paul-- AimHere b0b dayten domovoy_ hikiko led_belly le_pig Zesk safe preview Cabanossi klon selsper electro33 SEVTAP sudhackar sim590 atwar michaelni futex XSoul boturk luckman212 debia hamersaw de-facto CodeBlue1776 bolt spooky meminemy detectiveaoi fstd pixdamix f5ck Strife89 hipp mklvr moozer ntz schoppenhauer LV-426 wzyy2 BenNZ rkta patterson jfsCommit
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• 1079[07:29:47] <zonc> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: daniel-s treaki2 davetk soee mrra vonsyd0w selsper __hramrach rkta led_belly boturk hns lexruee plasmoduck LV-426 wzyy2 s0ph0s stefanc_diff ca_buf [E]sc debia kuchi necrose99 MrAlexandr0 de-facto klon Cabanossi cadillac_ wooden nutron|w ungali docmax BenNZ Johnjay neechan toorop kolla hikiko BeamWatcher RuGaL bertbob remote pixdamix bvs Enrico_Menotti mdorenka relaxed v01t atwar f5ck
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• 1081[07:29:47] <zonc> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: dudz teclo- loddfafnir nutron|w kwmiebach le_pig b0xii b meti MrAlexandr0 yonder ivan jsleeio Waggie cryptodan_mobile bionix thunderrd msantana Jacob843 pppktz Ralin3 michaelni plicease_ integral Puckel_ ShaRose Gabemo meminemy Ishaq SkIzZaTo Roedy grim4593 cnu- marcoslater jolt_ Te[u]K hiyosi f5ck ungali bardkorren dTal plasmoduck lokus peterandre nikolah rozie Paul-- schoppenhauer lift Artox
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• 1084[07:29:47] <logge> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: vutral bove namix thoros michael_mbp N0SSH JPT heurist iodev blind ecelis gardar grinsekatze crayon loeken quite ToeSnacks pvn folivora m4dh4tt4 xcm Posterdati vegenaise soee AWindowsKrill obamaburger Hoosilon gonyere zyley tensorpudding benj_ verboese daniel-s qtch toozej vook vvz marcoslater torrezno olivetree_ EnergyCoffee ebarch croddy Janhouse donofrio mirsal_ alxd jenson-wa Deflate tw
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• 1087[07:29:47] <silv> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: MoDaX debia Colti Tsutsukakushi MobileMatt nolsen vamiry tabris transhuman_ mz` shpingrlde BbT0n Hachya bove mtoroyarzo Kamilion bie tabakhase BotaniCar nikolah jannic bitgeek Merixer kerrhau mr__tea Danielss89_ cheapie Brian- SaltySolomon mzf linuxthefish plasmoduck beardo mutante kwmiebach nathanhi mattgirv xingu v4s- dwar marienz Orochimarufan Guest40802 Rockj JPT slax0r schoppenhauer beardy juul Blanco
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• 1090[07:29:48] <image^o> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: kuchi Rixius pztrick osro qman__ d-k Artox DoctorD90 johnnyfive maf_p kri AciD` holmgren xiqy Nightmare CodingWithClass grew iodev damiano pixdamix like2k1 miklcct thepilot[m] jimm nickdastain ihre nolsen Noskcaj mns wooden twisted` genpaku ecelis LeandroLuiz rolig Always aindilis _KaszpiR_ Dave[m]1 ungali cadeskywalker lazareo cnu- borsin Cujo sidmo_ phebus creat Posterdati jareth_
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• 1114[07:29:48] <SEVTAP> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: tuvwx_ Colti smlx N0SSH bier grim4593 pztrick tabris Loomaanaatii Melos MuffinMedic sander85 jandrusk elkmoose iCherry- [Gunner] CowboyNeal_ bmixed[m] Arieh ra1stlin amospalla Mazhive pron altendky llimeht verblendet rrva oberstein snw Profound guios shadoxx solarnetone Clouder mossman m712 GDiaX hexhaxtron tensorpudding lukasdboer rolig hassoon Se-bash mrra namix sukaeto netzach imMute iNs popnfresh
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• 1122[07:29:49] <SEVTAP> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: crowd42 Gabemo bezaban tobiasBora adellam daishan Ishaq luz1 dxrt sc_ adre SwedeMike fauweh p0g0 g4spr0m jareth_ debhelper ibex gmh cnu- petan Renari Merixer Orbitrix Neo SwK nadersith Quick_Wango vvz sielicki hammer065 larjona AlwaysHigh m712 systo dos1 dysfigured masuberu CEnnis91 evotopid sniku__ thepilot[m] pppktz noahfx selsper sputnik nevyn sbeyer Aebian baum
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• 1134[07:29:50] <debia> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: frankie rxo mhall119 hicks_ dsnow_ pelegreno_ digdilem bw_ judd n4n0` BbT0n volodim SkIzZaTo talin test659898[m] Zauberfisch PuFFs meti yemel Dagger boser ggherdov Graypup_ jgornick Bierjpg|XeonX8 superkulak rysiek|pl APLU limbo_ MochaLoca Tom-_ afx237 totonika b0b lebster Ellied integral amanualgoldstein egos grim4593 tabakhase HotSwap bove rednul sulvone ebarch hiya Ryushin Guest84846 apollojustice
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• 1137[07:29:51] <BenVeS> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: mz` DXR_ Gm4n sniku__ kirkland jadesoturi brouette NeilHanlon darkalia Airforce Arahael churnd mpmc loptr verm1n orb pppktz Logg sdk dreamon_ parshimers amorel_ tacocat beaky peteski teej jfsCommit WebDawg mk_modrzew preview Wagg babyflakes malm bardkorren Guest40802 internat sqz clil semeion Acrisor qzo m4rCsi ryan-c lbatalha borsin flipp Mrloafbot_ petan moetunes zwamkat
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• 1140[07:29:51] <kristi> CALL 844-311-8721 L0DE RADIO HOUR: braingain cmichel GeraldW boxrick subpath roli trewas N jim twisted` reu kwmiebach ryan-c gmh vincent_c rax- Rixius Dan_au SEVTAP pipeep mundus ghostyyy hex2a dudz Hoosilon citypw uptime Deflate Hijiri cbdev tig Obi-Wan dreamon_ LV-426 juhop phar6oor aesin detectiveaoi TMan459 distantorigin ineiros_ torrezno kward introom anexit Granis dysfigured shoogz Scuttle insidious
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• 1160[07:29:57] <Renari> nice
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• 1219[07:30:13] <Voldenet> Actually I'm not even mad. This is amazing ;D
• 1220[07:30:18] <jcarpenter2> every time i get pinged on IRC i'm like
• 1221[07:30:22] *** themill sets mode: +q $~a
• 1222[07:30:23] <jcarpenter2> "am I banned?"
• 1223[07:30:24] <r0bby> This is the lamest flood
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• 1225[07:30:36] <MochaLoca> themill, thanks.
• 1226[07:30:48] <Renari> I always think someone actually wants to talk to me.
• 1227[07:30:52] <Renari> Then I'm disappointed.
• 1228[07:30:57] <AWindowsKrill> yeah
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• 1231[07:31:38] <Voldenet> Yeah, me too, I'm like (ง'̀-'́)ง YOU TOO, M8, but then it's just good old spambots
• 1232[07:32:13] <qzo> Where are people supposed to even talk about Debian if this place is just spambots?
• 1233[07:32:24] <annadane> it's mostly not spambots.
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• 1236[07:33:09] <Voldenet> You would be surprised that sometimes people actually talk here
• 1237[07:33:20] <exezin> I think the idea is to talk about the spam bots
• 1238[07:33:34] * exezin hides
• 1239[07:33:35] <themill> an even better plan is not to ;)
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• 1241[07:33:54] <qzo> Who invests the time and money into writing spambots? What sort of return do you get on that?
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• 1243[07:35:28] <SirLagz> qzo: spambot writers probably sell the bots off
• 1244[07:35:35] * themill points to ##comment-on-spam
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• 1251[07:40:46] <Johnjay> qzo: i guess if you scam one person out of a million that's still a payoff?
• 1252[07:41:24] <Johnjay> but that doesn't really explain the point of a spambot
• 1253[07:41:48] <Johnjay> question: should I use apt-cache to find the github for a particular package?
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• 1255[07:42:43] <themill> that question is the equivalent of "what colour is Tuesday?"
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• 1257[07:43:27] <annadane> you should probably just use google for that
• 1258[07:43:29] <jcarpenter2> "What number is defined by this sentence?"
• 1259[07:43:40] <Johnjay> the problem with google is sometimes you get multiple hits for the same project name
• 1260[07:43:52] <Johnjay> why i'm not sure. i guess people downloading code for their own use
• 1261[07:44:08] <annadane> Johnjay, actually if you go on packages.debian.org and search for packages they'll have "official homepages" on the right hand side
• 1262[07:44:16] <themill> It's highly unlikely that anything to do with github is known to apt
• 1263[07:44:17] <Johnjay> jcarpenter2: well godel numbering does assign a number to every expression.
• 1264[07:44:28] <Johnjay> annadane: right, thanks!
• 1265[07:44:35] <annadane> so replaced-url
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• 1267[07:45:09] <OtakuSenpai> actually
• 1268[07:45:22] <OtakuSenpai> theres a channel called #lrh in efnet
• 1269[07:45:27] <OtakuSenpai> and its not tht spooky
• 1270[07:45:29] <Johnjay> typically you can find the github from a project's main page if it's sane
• 1271[07:45:30] <OtakuSenpai> or shit
• 1272[07:45:36] <annadane> unless you're really fixated on github/git in particular but one feels it would be there if the maintainers find it's important
• 1273[07:45:46] <annadane> quite a lot of dev work happens off those sites
• 1274[07:45:54] <annadane> and by off i mean "not on those sites"
• 1275[07:46:10] <themill> Johnjay: apt-cache show $package lists the Homepage field; that is not "the github for a particular package"
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• 1277[07:46:30] <annadane> right, if you're just using "github" as synonym for "homepage"...
• 1278[07:47:50] <annadane> for example it's like asking "what is the github for debian"
• 1279[07:48:12] <annadane> well, are you interested in where debian gets developed? then see debian-devel@lists.debian.org
• 1280[07:48:16] <Johnjay> well. i assume it's somebody's job to track down that github at some point to package the package
• 1281[07:48:28] <annadane> as well as countless other places where things are discussed like #debian-devel on oftc
• 1282[07:48:29] <Johnjay> annadane: ok thanks i will.
• 1283[07:48:32] <themill> there is a world that is not github
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• 1287[07:49:34] <annadane> also i guess in passing it's worth pointing out git as an alternative to github
• 1288[07:49:41] <annadane> anyway, this horse has been beaten to death
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• 1292[07:52:24] <Voldenet> Johnjay: there's no debian tool for github, but maybe there are some viable github clients - they even might help you get a .deb file from releases
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• 1296[07:53:40] <annadane> Johnjay, well, i'll revive the horse just to mention that you might also be interested in qa pages - on the aforementioned packages.debian.org pages on the right there's "maintainers (qa page)" which has a list of various packages that maintainer(s) is/are responsible for
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• 1298[07:54:03] <annadane> for instance openbox again replaced-url
• 1299[07:54:25] <annadane> so you can see for instance that the maintainer for openbox also maintains vlc
• 1300[07:54:44] <annadane> or is part of that group, in any event
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• 1325[08:19:18] <Arahael> It's actually quite remarkable just how popular github has become.
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• 1327[08:19:54] <Arahael> sourceforge used to be it, before they became *crap*.
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• 1477[10:12:43] <Haxxa> Hi Guys anyone familar with systemd - " nut-driver.service " keeps loading on startup yet I have disabled it. Not sure how to stop it - I use nut-client and I want to stop nut-driver from starting.
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• 1486[10:18:26] <Haxxa> any ideas or experts on systemd?
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• 1490[10:18:55] <bendem> Haxxa, how did you disable it?
• 1491[10:19:09] <Haxxa> systemd disable xxx.service
• 1492[10:19:15] <Haxxa> *systemctl
• 1493[10:19:48] <Haxxa> bendem, ^
• 1494[10:20:36] <bendem> tried using systemd-analyze? That would give you an idea of problems it might have or what required it or something
• 1495[10:21:05] <bendem> is it starting as a user service maybe? try disabling with --user
• 1496[10:21:50] <bendem> also, check systemctl is-enabled to see if disable had any effect
• 1497[10:22:06] <Haxxa> bendem, It's wanterd by nut-server.service - could that start it as it autostarts?
• 1498[10:22:10] <Haxxa> *wanted
• 1499[10:22:35] <bendem> is nut-server started?
• 1500[10:22:42] <bendem> what happens when you disable it?
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• 1506[10:24:10] <Haxxa> bendem, nut-server is started. I will try to disable it - anyway I can test without rebooting - this is a production server
• 1507[10:24:26] <Haxxa> i.e. test if nut-driver is started by it
• 1508[10:25:48] <Haxxa> bendem, woah, Is this ok? looks like a few errors occured: replaced-url
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• 1515[10:28:36] <bendem> oh, that goes through sysv
• 1516[10:28:44] <bendem> welcome to a world of pain
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• 1518[10:29:11] <Haxxa> bendem, did it work?
• 1519[10:29:45] <Haxxa> also nut-driver seemed to disable without any feedback
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• 1527[10:35:45] <bendem> Haxxa, I don't actually now
• 1528[10:35:48] <bendem> know*
• 1529[10:36:18] <Haxxa> bendem, I guess I will live with it failing on startup then - I guess thats the best way
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• 1532[10:36:52] <DK2> hello my server is being spammed by "kernel messages flood: "Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev" messages, its pingable but no ssh / webserver is working anymore, reboot doesnt help
• 1533[10:36:54] <DK2> any ideas?
• 1534[10:37:19] <qmr> Google that message. reboot
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• 1536[10:37:47] <DK2> reboot not helping :/
• 1537[10:38:07] <bendem> you need to google first
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• 1540[10:41:36] <qmr> connect to console
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• 1704[12:31:20] <zxcvbnmasdfghjkl> the other day. we will have to be able to see the attached file for the next week
• 1705[12:31:26] <zxcvbnmasdfghjkl> the other hand, I am a little more than happy
• 1706[12:31:34] <zxcvbnmasdfghjkl> the other hand I am a very good. we have been a little while ago and have the ability to work with. this is a good time for the first time in the morning and the kids, I will
• 1707[12:31:39] <zxcvbnmasdfghjkl> the first time in the world. it was a little more. if I had a good idea. I will be in touch and
• 1708[12:31:47] <zxcvbnmasdfghjkl> the other day. we will be in the next few days, so I can see the place where we were in my head 83918471959
• 1709[12:32:12] <zxcvbnmasdfghjkl> the first time. I have been working on my buttcrack the, and that you can also be
• 1710[12:32:23] <arora> umm what?
• 1711[12:32:27] <zxcvbnmasdfghjkl> on Sat in my opinion
• 1712[12:32:30] <zxcvbnmasdfghjkl> on the way
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• 1727[12:42:26] <arora> !next
• 1728[12:42:26] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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• 1829[13:59:19] <osless> hello all - does anyone here still use iwlist?
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• 1831[14:00:04] <osless> trying debian stretch 9.2 and ......no iwlist - how to get list of local networks and there details?
• 1832[14:00:46] <themill> you can install wireless-tools or use iw
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• 1835[14:02:07] <osless> dumb me - just tried iw and nothing ....sudo .....now iwlist is available sorry but thanx for iw hint
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• 1839[14:02:57] <kirk781> wait, shouldn't lsb_release -a show my version nos as well?
• 1840[14:03:04] <kirk781> All it shows is that I am running si
• 1841[14:03:06] <kirk781> *sid
• 1842[14:03:25] <osless> can i ask - does ip give anyone wierd network adapter names like wlp3s0 ?
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• 1845[14:04:10] <kirk781> osless: huh, no iwlist in my distro as well
• 1846[14:04:49] <PrincessZelda> osless: these aren't useless, they got renamed from eth0 to the PCI device, slot and bus name
• 1847[14:04:55] <PrincessZelda> wlan0 to wlp3s0 for example in your case
• 1848[14:05:15] <osless> @kirk781 - yes i found it after i used sudo thnx ....also try uname -a for release info
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• 1851[14:06:20] <kirk781> osless: All I get is my kernel version[debian 4.13.0.1] ; not the release number
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• 1853[14:06:45] <PrincessZelda> cat /etc/os-release
• 1854[14:07:36] <kirk781> princesszelda: tried that. all it gives is "Debian GNU/Linux buster/sid"
• 1855[14:07:53] <PrincessZelda> Then you aren't on any release
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• 1857[14:07:59] <PrincessZelda> sid is the unstable upstream repo
• 1858[14:08:14] <PrincessZelda> The newest and unstable stuff goes in there for future releases
• 1859[14:08:44] <kirk781> I am on buster[ not sid]. Maybe it could be due to that I am using the debian experimental repo for latest software?
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• 1861[14:09:02] <osless> ahhh ok - @PrincessZelda - good to learn thank you
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• 1863[14:09:34] <PrincessZelda> osless: replaced-url
• 1864[14:09:44] <PrincessZelda> kirk781: Paste your /etc/apt/sources.list and then we can see
• 1865[14:09:48] <PrincessZelda> *Pastebin
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• 1868[14:11:31] <osless> thnx @PrincessZelda - where can i find info on new naming convention for network adapters?
• 1869[14:12:47] <PrincessZelda> osless: It's built-in into the kernel and udev, not only Debian-related. other distributions like Fedora etc. are also affected.
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• 1874[14:14:26] <PrincessZelda> osless: Hm, I can't find any good article, but iirc these names are based on the connected PCI slot, the type of the device (WiFi, GPU, SSD, ...) and the bus type etc
• 1875[14:14:54] <osless> @kirk781 - you may also try cat /etc/*-release
• 1876[14:14:56] <PrincessZelda> Makes it easier to identify which port you are using or trying to troubleshoot
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• 1878[14:16:31] <osless> @PrincessZelda - so what does wlp3s0 tell me?
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• 1895[14:18:08] <osless> where can i learn more - like how to break apart the name to determine its a wireless lan @ pci slot x,
• 1896[14:18:26] <PrincessZelda> replaced-url
• 1897[14:18:33] <PrincessZelda> As I already said, it's the PCI slot
• 1898[14:18:55] <PrincessZelda> I'm also not really famila with that
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• 1911[14:22:34] <osless> @PrincessZelda - i dig you - much appreciate what you shared - reading up now
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• 1914[14:24:30] <PrincessZelda> osless: You're welcome :)
• 1915[14:25:11] <kirk781> osless: that command doesn't help either.Trust me, i have run them all. Here's the pastebin link: replaced-url
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• 1917[14:26:42] <PrincessZelda> kirk781: You are using Stretch (stable release) with testing at the same time.
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• 1920[14:27:32] <kirk781> PricessZelda: huh, what should I do to purely be on the testing release?
• 1921[14:27:55] <PrincessZelda> kirk781: Remote the lines that contains stretch
• 1922[14:27:58] <PrincessZelda> *Remove
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• 1924[14:28:13] <PrincessZelda> Then do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
• 1925[14:28:13] <PrincessZelda> And reboot
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• 1928[14:29:56] <kirk781> PrincessZelda: Okay. Does my current config means that there are files in the system that aren't on the testing release. I mean, if two versions of a software is available, one in stable and other in testing; wouldn't my system already have the latest testing packages?
• 1929[14:29:58] <osless> yeah @PrincessZelda is right - that kind of cross apt source thing breaks linux systems
• 1930[14:30:31] <PrincessZelda> kirk781: replaced-url
• 1931[14:30:38] <kirk781> osless: seems like I forgot to comment out the stable sources when I was upgrading. I would correct it today.
• 1932[14:30:53] <PrincessZelda> kirk781: No, the upgrade will replace all you stable versions with the testing ones
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• 1934[14:32:25] <kirk781> princesszelda: would commenting out the exeprimental software also required[or would it be rendered redundant]?
• 1935[14:32:51] <osless> @kirk781 likely so.....follow @PrincessZelda that will clear your system and fixmissing - you may want to apt-get autoclean (first-then) apt-get clean
• 1936[14:33:20] <osless> after following @PrincessZelda instructions
• 1937[14:33:30] <PrincessZelda> kirk781: According to replaced-url
• 1938[14:33:33] <kirk781> osless: okay
• 1939[14:33:44] <PrincessZelda> Means, your system could crash at any time with experimental packages installed, use it at your own risk
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• 1941[14:34:04] <kirk781> princessZelda: that's the only way to get firefox 57.0 installed on the system. The stable repos all have the ESR version.
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• 1946[14:35:05] <PrincessZelda> You can use it if you like, but use it at your own risk
• 1947[14:35:15] <PrincessZelda> "Users shouldn't be using packages from here, because they can be dangerous and harmful even for the most experienced people."
• 1948[14:35:16] <osless> @kirk781 you may be stuck with ESR
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• 1951[14:35:40] <PrincessZelda> Also read the "YOu have been warned" lines
• 1952[14:36:24] <osless> @kirk781 kali users had this issue when it switched from iceweasel to ESR...really no good solution
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• 1955[14:37:46] <PrincessZelda> There's a reason why Debian Stable sticks with ESR
• 1956[14:37:53] <PrincessZelda> It's stable and doesn't change every 6 weeks
• 1957[14:38:02] <osless> @kirk781 i think i remember it has to do with mozilla not linux
• 1958[14:38:16] <PrincessZelda> Iceweasel _is_ Firefox
• 1959[14:38:19] <osless> lol yeah that may be it
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• 1961[14:38:27] <PrincessZelda> Just with a different name and logo cause of copyright trademarks
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• 1963[14:38:34] <kirk781> A way could be that after updating Firefox, I can just comment out the that line.This way, only Firefox would be upgraded from the experimental repo and not other software.
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• 1967[14:38:54] <osless> yes @PrincessZelda but the versions act a little differently
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• 1971[14:39:25] <PrincessZelda> not sure, never used Iceweasel before
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• 1974[14:39:44] <kirk781> osless: Of course it's an issue with mozilla. chromium is always at the latest version in the stable repos but not FF.
• 1975[14:39:45] <osless> @kirk781....sounds risky to me but maybe..
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• 1977[14:40:33] <kirk781> osless: Well, it should work in theory and my system hasn't really crashed till now[with the repo] enabled; so surely it can't get worse.
• 1978[14:40:48] <kirk781> PrincessZelda: didn't debian phase out iceweasel branding quite some time ago?
• 1979[14:40:59] <PrincessZelda> kirk781: Chromium is Google Chrome ... Chrome is based on Chromium
• 1980[14:41:11] <phogg> osless: differences are minor; Debian changes around some defaults to be less bad and more integrated.
• 1981[14:41:16] <osless> @PrincessZelda iceweasel is same - like you said the mozillas are the same just little tweaks and big name changes
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• 1983[14:41:25] <PrincessZelda> kirk781: Yes, Debian is now using the original Firefox since Stretch
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• 1987[14:42:45] <osless> @phogg - ahh makes sense - seems the tweaks were strange for mozilla to make for individual distros
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• 1991[14:44:50] <flipper887> Any good firewall howtos as I have a huge porn sdditiction issue and need to block certian adult websites?
• 1992[14:45:10] <phogg> osless: mozilla does not make them
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• 1994[14:45:36] <PrincessZelda> flipper887: A URL filter would be a better solutions
• 1995[14:45:38] <PrincessZelda> *solution
• 1996[14:45:48] <PrincessZelda> like a proxy
• 1997[14:45:50] <phogg> flipper887: you don't need a firewall for that you can simply add the host names to /etc/hosts and give the IP address as 0.0.0.0
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• 1999[14:46:12] <PrincessZelda> phogg: He might also want to block wildcards
• 2000[14:46:15] <osless> ufw
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• 2002[14:46:22] <PrincessZelda> This is impossibl with /etc/hosts
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• 2004[14:46:26] <PrincessZelda> to block wildcards
• 2005[14:46:28] <phogg> PrincessZelda: a firewall also doesn't help with that
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• 2007[14:46:37] <PrincessZelda> phogg: I already told him that
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• 2017[14:49:35] <osless> @anyone - what virtual machine package works best with debian stretch?
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• 2021[14:50:07] <PrincessZelda> I use KVM
• 2022[14:50:41] <jmpzer0> i use virt-manage, libvirt. no issues.
• 2023[14:50:49] <jmpzer0> virt-manager
• 2024[14:50:59] <PrincessZelda> virt-install :)
• 2025[14:51:17] <PrincessZelda> and, sometimes at work, plain libvirtd by hand
• 2026[14:51:47] <jmpzer0> nice :-)
• 2027[14:52:17] <RoyK> virt-manager just works
• 2028[14:52:25] <RoyK> sometimes virsh too
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• 2031[14:52:54] <PrincessZelda> Yup
• 2032[14:53:00] <PrincessZelda> virsh that's what I meand by hand
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• 2035[14:53:52] <osless> thnx @PrincessZelda plain virt by hand??
• 2036[14:54:20] <osless> @royk - will look at that thnx
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• 2042[14:55:50] <PrincessZelda> osless: virsh
• 2043[14:55:58] <PrincessZelda> command-line tool for KVM
• 2044[14:56:08] <PrincessZelda> It's complicated :)
• 2045[14:56:58] <osless> lol - yeah - but i dig it - thanx
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• 2047[14:57:12] <osless> thank you all for the suggestions
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• 2049[14:57:42] <PrincessZelda> You're welcome
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• 2054[14:59:23] <proyk> Hi folks!
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• 2116[15:27:45] <xochilpili> hi all
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• 2118[15:28:34] <xochilpili> im trying to mount -t cifs -o username=myuser //server/share_folder /mnt/my_folder < and i got this : wront fs type, i have installed smbclient and nfs-common, but still having this issue
• 2119[15:28:38] <xochilpili> any help?
• 2120[15:29:57] <PrincessZelda> smb://server/share
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• 2122[15:30:01] <PrincessZelda> not //server/share
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• 2128[15:31:56] <kirk781> PrincessZelda: I redid my repos clean. lsb_release is clearly showing that I am using "buster" now; however, the version nos is still not visible. Also no updates were available for apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade
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• 2132[15:33:49] <kirk781> [Also apparently, it seems that testing contains the latest version of Firefox so i may not need the experimental repos anymore]
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• 2139[15:35:48] <cronic> hello :) I have a problem with the network speed of scp, it has a 10gb interface but it drops through 10-15kb after 20 miuntes.. there is no other process/task that consume cpu/ram or disk.. does someone has a tipp where i cn start analyze?
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• 2141[15:36:15] <gpunk> overheat
• 2142[15:36:19] <gpunk> (joking)
• 2143[15:36:27] <cronic> :P checked, 34°C
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• 2146[15:36:54] <gpunk> what debian do you have?
• 2147[15:36:58] <gpunk> kernel version
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• 2150[15:37:18] <cronic> 8.9 3.16.0-4
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• 2152[15:37:26] <cronic> (amd64)
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• 2155[15:37:54] <gpunk> one large file ? or many little ones ?
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• 2158[15:38:19] <cronic> scp with chunk, but now it's slow on the first file
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• 2160[15:38:50] <gpunk> the speed of a transfert "builds up"
• 2161[15:39:46] <gpunk> one files 20 minutes ?
• 2162[15:39:50] <gpunk> file*
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• 2165[15:41:25] <cronic> Mhh, na. If im correctly its an "send info - ack - send -repeat" process, file size is between 5-10mb, it looks like that has nothing to with the file transfer itself, because i am copying at different times. Sometimes it start slowing down after 20 minutes of transferring, sometimes after 4, now it starts with slowed transferrate. Its very strange. I tested 1 big file, same problem.
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• 2167[15:42:16] <cronic> 1 file (10gb) starts with 5 mb/s slow down to 10kb, after ~20minutes it speedsup back to 5-10.. dmesg is nothing to see
• 2168[15:42:39] <cronic> netstat, nothing. iostat nothing.. thats so weird.
• 2169[15:43:37] <gpunk> the nick is or buggy, or you need to fiddle with it with ethertool
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• 2173[15:45:47] <gpunk> ethtool*
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• 2180[15:48:19] <cronic> replaced-url
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• 2187[15:49:36] <gpunk> can you test by setting to autonegociation ON ...
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• 2191[15:49:51] <gpunk> could be a faulty fiber too
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• 2196[15:51:57] <cronic> cancled the running scp, restarted, transferrate 229mbit/s >.<
• 2197[15:52:28] <cronic> nothing changed.. ill try autonegotiation, then replacing cable..
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• 2348[16:54:34] <jhutchins> cronic: It's also possible that it's not network, it's I/O, most likely on the receiver, but possibly on the sender.
• 2349[16:55:27] <PrincessZelda> tasksel
• 2350[16:55:32] <PrincessZelda> oh
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• 2354[16:56:22] <cronic> jhutchins: as i said before, i already checked that :(
• 2355[16:56:31] <cronic> jhutchins: on both sides :)
• 2356[16:56:57] <cronic> jhutchins: i stopped all services, all read/write operations to only show whats going on when the server should do ONE job :D
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• 2360[16:58:33] <PrincessZelda> network i/o error?
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• 2362[16:58:44] <PrincessZelda> could also be the opposite (router?)
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• 2365[17:00:36] <cronic> PrincessZelda: there is no route between dest and source, only a ex3300 and the switch load is ok. I
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• 2368[17:01:21] <PrincessZelda> 100 Mbit? 1 Gbit? 10 Gbit? 40 Gbit?
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• 2372[17:02:25] <cronic> 10 Gbit
• 2373[17:02:39] <cronic> Both sides
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• 2375[17:03:16] <cronic> (DAC)
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• 2377[17:03:53] <cronic> Profound: I guess it could be the raid nor cable
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• 2380[17:05:15] <jer0me> hey there, I'm running debian on a macbook I just updated to "high sierra", this migrating to "apfs". Since then, grub won't find the root partition. It used to be (hd0,4) and now, from the rescue grub prompt ls shows (hd5,4). I can't seem to find where to set this new root in /etc/default/grub nor /etc/grub.d/. Any hints?
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• 2389[17:10:36] <relaxed> jer0me: maybe /etc/grub.d/40_custom
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• 2394[17:13:23] <cronic> sierra", this migrating to "apfs". Since then, grub won't find the root
• 2395[17:13:32] <cronic> arg
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• 2398[17:14:08] <cronic> replaced-url
• 2399[17:15:07] <jer0me> there's a GRUB_DEVICE var I could try
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• 2415[17:19:10] <tacticspeed> hi all
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• 2417[17:19:26] <tacticspeed> im facing a big issue with my setup
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• 2421[17:20:12] <tacticspeed> grub install messed up my windows
• 2422[17:20:21] <tacticspeed> meaning it wont boot anymore
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• 2426[17:20:48] <tacticspeed> windows partition still there, but the 'bootmgr absent' error message at boot
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• 2428[17:21:11] <tacticspeed> ones adviced to use the Windows System Repair Disc
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• 2430[17:21:24] <tacticspeed> but I just don't find it on the internet
• 2431[17:21:50] <tacticspeed> where could I download the iso, and then burn it to a USB flash drive
• 2432[17:22:08] <tacticspeed> (knowing that I'm using a Live Ubuntu right now)
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• 2434[17:22:55] <Logg> try #windows
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• 2442[17:26:02] <xcvb> im trying to update firefox from v52 to 57....
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• 2444[17:26:16] <xcvb> apt get remove and then apt get install doesnt seem to work
• 2445[17:26:16] * apt fetches remove and then apt get install doesnt seem to work
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• 2449[17:27:13] <xcvb> i just want an addon extension thing
• 2450[17:27:27] <Logg> xcvb, check you aren't using ESR.
• 2451[17:27:39] <Logg> the next ESR will be version 59, in I think march.
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• 2453[17:27:49] <xcvb> Logg, i think i am using ESR, but i dont know
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• 2455[17:28:02] <Logg> under Help > about firefox
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• 2457[17:28:30] <xcvb> yes, its esr
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• 2460[17:28:46] <xcvb> i aptget remove esr?
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• 2463[17:29:30] <Logg> I think there's a repo you have to add somewhere to get the "current release" of firefox instead of the ESR release.
• 2464[17:29:33] <Logg> or you can wait until march
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• 2468[17:31:48] <Logg> xcvb, replaced-url
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• 2476[17:34:38] <xcvb> im gonna keep trying apt get remove and install.... idk
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• 2478[17:35:05] <xcvb> it probably doesnt help that i only try to solve issues after ive been drinking
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• 2480[17:35:17] <Logg> you won't get it. only ESR is in stable debian repo
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• 2484[17:36:21] <xcvb> hmm
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• 2486[17:36:48] <xcvb> i dont really like adding repos, and i think i have repos i dont want or use or are broken, but idk
• 2487[17:37:00] <xcvb> im scrolling through the link here
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• 2489[17:37:33] <xcvb> and quite honestly, idk anything about nightly or stable or beta
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• 2491[17:37:46] <xcvb> feel foolish but oh well
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• 2493[17:37:55] <Logg> stable is 57.
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• 2495[17:38:10] <Logg> ESR is 52, and that's what's available in the debian stable repo
• 2496[17:38:33] <xcvb> okay alright, so i think i downloaded 57 but targz stuff
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• 2500[17:39:28] <xcvb> so i guess i should apt get remove and then lookup how to make a targz work
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• 2508[17:42:34] <xcvb> its actually not a gz, its a bz2... but im going to try that. apt get remove and figure out how to install a bz2
• 2509[17:42:45] <Logg> you'll have to extract it first.
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• 2515[17:43:49] <xcvb> yeah, i get that part
• 2516[17:44:04] <xcvb> i just have a feeling il end up with esr again
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• 2525[17:45:54] <LtL> xcvb: no, you'll actually have both which is perfectly fine.
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• 2529[17:47:16] <xcvb> LtL, but i dont get how to launch just plain firefox. when i try to run it, i get esr
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• 2531[17:47:35] <xcvb> and my chromium keeps crashing so i cant look up how to install a bz2
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• 2533[17:47:57] <Logg> install lynx xcvb
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• 2535[17:48:21] <LtL> xcvb: i installed it in $HOME, then i just make a symlink on the desktop.
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• 2548[17:53:47] <LtL> xcvb: is it a '*tar.bz2 file? then, 'tar xjvf whatever.tar.bz2'
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• 2560[17:56:36] <xcvb> thanks LtL and Logg
• 2561[17:57:03] <xcvb> im going to try to remove firefox and firefox-esr and then unpack and reinstall
• 2562[17:57:06] <xcvb> we shall shee
• 2563[17:57:12] <Logg> okay, good luck.
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• 2567[17:58:02] <haiky> Hiya, is someone can help me how can I start a script on startup please ?
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• 2569[17:58:21] <xcvb> i have four sticks of ram and i think maybe one is bad because on the check on boot it always stops at 3328MB
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• 2573[17:58:48] <haiky> I wrote one in /etc/init.d/myScript and run updates-rc.d command but it's not working
• 2574[17:59:11] <haiky> Hiya, is someone can help me how can I start a script on startup please ? mp me, thank you <3
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• 2576[17:59:48] <LtL> xcvb: one beep or more on POST? Pull one stick at a time until you find a bad one.
• 2577[17:59:58] <SwedeMike> haiky: when the computer starts (such as a server) or when the GUI has started (if this is a desktop)
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• 2579[18:00:12] <Logg> xcvb, try reseating them, and run memtest86
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• 2583[18:01:12] <haiky> SwedeMike: After the GUI has started
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• 2589[18:02:11] <SwedeMike> haiky: ok, I have no idea. Guess this depends on what window manager etc has been installed. Look for "startup" or something in the settings.
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• 2591[18:02:28] <SwedeMike> I know how to do this in Ubuntu, but I don't run GUI on Debian.
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• 2593[18:03:09] <haiky> SwedeMike: there is gnow-tweak-tool, but it's not a full customisable alternative
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• 2598[18:03:35] <haiky> SwedeMike: and Startup Application on my distro is crashing when I try to open it ='(
• 2599[18:03:57] <haiky> SwedeMike: I have the last Debian Strecht
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• 2608[18:05:29] <Logg> what window manager are you using haiky?
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• 2610[18:05:42] <xcvb> LtL, no beeps
• 2611[18:06:06] <xcvb> (but im going to keep messing with getting firefox for now)
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• 2619[18:08:15] <LtL> xcvb: run memtest (takes forever) or just pull one stick at a time until it see's all the remaining ram then you know the bad stick. re-seating and air blasting may solve it also. i'd try the latter first.
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• 2627[18:11:22] <LtL> xcvb: No need to remove ESR, installing the new one in home dir should also pickup your bookmarks. it did here and both ESR and ff work fine but i do not run them at the same time, tho' it would probably work.
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• 2629[18:12:12] <LtL> xcvb: the new FF will update on it's own also.
• 2630[18:12:16] <ahmadadnan> hi, I have set bond0 and the slaves are eno3 and eno4. the bonding worked perfectly in staging environment, how it is not working after moved to production environment.
• 2631[18:12:41] <haiky> Hiya, is someone can help me how can I start a script on startup please ? mp me, thank you <3
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• 2634[18:12:52] <Logg> haiky, it will depend on your window manager.
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• 2636[18:13:13] <LtL> xcvb: btw, no beeps is ok, as long as you don't hear more than one.
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• 2638[18:13:42] <ahmadadnan> already changed the ip, but the Mii status is down. bond in disabled state.
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• 2640[18:14:14] <ahmadadnan> from ifconfig, eno3 and eno4 is up.
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• 2643[18:15:32] <haiky> Logg: Ok, I'm going to search on that
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• 2645[18:16:03] <haiky> Logg: Not possible to do it simply by command line ?
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• 2647[18:16:44] <Logg> different window managers have different mechanisms to launch programs when they are finished loading.
• 2648[18:16:52] <BenderRodriguez> jcarpenter2: who would ban you? :)
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• 2653[18:18:52] <osless> @ahmadadnan - try ip instead of ifconfig
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• 2662[18:23:17] <ahmadadnan> @osless thanks for your response, I have tried detached and attached the slaves. however, still the same.
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• 2666[18:26:04] <juon> Hello
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• 2669[18:26:32] <BenderRodriguez> juon: hi!
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• 2673[18:28:07] <xcvb> trying to get a bz2 unpacked and installed is too confusing........ idk about binaries and $PATH
• 2674[18:28:14] * xcvb pours another drink
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• 2678[18:28:44] * xcvb cheers
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• 2683[18:30:44] <PlainDave> could someone please give me the line to add to my sources file for upgrading to a newer version of Firefox?
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• 2685[18:30:58] * xcvb cheers PlainDave
• 2686[18:31:17] <LtL> xcvb: try bzip2 -dc my_file.tar.bz2 | tar xvf -
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• 2688[18:31:42] <annadane> ,v firefox
• 2689[18:31:43] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 57.0-1; experimental: 58.0~b4-1
• 2690[18:31:59] <annadane> PlainDave, firefox isn't in sid; but you can just download a tar from mozilla
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• 2692[18:32:08] <annadane> er
• 2693[18:32:13] <annadane> isn't in stretch, i mean
• 2694[18:32:19] <PlainDave> okay, thanks!
• 2695[18:33:18] <LtL> xcvb: do that from your home directory, it should create a firefox dir which within will be a firefox executable which will start firefox
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• 2706[18:37:32] <xcvb> i dont wanna wait until march to apt get firefox
• 2707[18:37:57] <xcvb> LtL, i did the bzip2 and i think it worked, but it wasnt in home dir it was in downloads still
• 2708[18:38:20] <xcvb> still dont think its installed tho
• 2709[18:38:24] <xcvb> cant run it
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• 2713[18:40:07] <jhutchins> ,v firefox
• 2714[18:40:08] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 57.0-1; experimental: 58.0~b4-1
• 2715[18:40:38] <jelly> xcvb, how does it fail when you run /path/to/unpacked/dir/firefox ?
• 2716[18:41:01] <jhutchins> xcvb: Keep track of exactly what you're doing so you can un-do it if something breaks.
• 2717[18:42:08] <jhutchins> xcvb: 57 has moved from experimental to unstable in about a week, chances are it could make it to backports before the end of the year.
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• 2725[18:43:43] <jhutchins> xcvb: mozilla.org has instructions on how to install their packages.
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• 2733[18:46:46] <annadane> oh, actually
• 2734[18:46:49] <annadane> i can promote this now
• 2735[18:47:09] <annadane> replaced-url
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• 2737[18:47:27] <annadane> but yes, with firefox you can literally just use the tar
• 2738[18:47:34] <annadane> how it handles updates, i'm not certain
• 2739[18:48:03] <jelly> automatically if unpacked by the same user that's running it
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• 2741[18:48:27] <xcvb> i just want more than ten tabs at a time...... the addon tab style tree something or whatever......
• 2742[18:48:29] <xcvb> :/
• 2743[18:48:37] <xcvb> there are kids starving in africa and i want more tabs
• 2744[18:48:43] * xcvb pours again
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• 2746[18:49:11] <annadane> luckily with debian not everything has to be a .deb, there's quite a few tar archives on the internet and virtualenv's you can use instead
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• 2751[18:51:22] <xcvb> what is a better channel or whatever to just rant and banter and stuff..... about alcohol or whatever
• 2752[18:51:39] <jelly> ##chat or #debian-offtopic
• 2753[18:51:50] <xcvb> thanks jelly
• 2754[18:51:54] <xcvb> anyone else? any more?
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• 2756[18:52:33] <xcvb> (im back to business now btw, my firefox issues, grrrrr and stuff)
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• 2762[18:55:12] <xcvb> i extracted into a folder called firefox, how do i run it?
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• 2764[18:55:31] <xcvb> i can do an ls and see everything in it
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• 2767[18:56:15] <LtL> xcvb: cd into firefox/ and run './firefox &' from a terminal
• 2768[18:56:51] <xcvb> LtL, holy crow!!!
• 2769[18:57:00] <xcvb> i did and i had a ton of errors but it worked
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• 2771[18:57:14] <xcvb> and its v57!!!
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• 2773[18:57:35] <Logg> maybe you should celebrate by installing some addons
• 2774[18:57:35] <annadane> yep. you don't need .debs for everything
• 2775[18:57:46] <xcvb> Logg, !!!!
• 2776[18:57:49] <xcvb> that was my plan all along
• 2777[18:57:51] <xcvb> why else update
• 2778[18:57:54] <xcvb> (lol)
• 2779[18:57:59] <LtL> xcvb: did it pickup your ESR bookmarks?
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• 2782[18:58:37] <xcvb> LtL, i dont think i really had bookmarks, but it seemed to find my profile
• 2783[18:58:47] <xcvb> it opened the same page i had when i closed v52
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• 2786[19:00:26] <xcvb> you people are great
• 2787[19:00:39] <annadane> xcvb, well, you might want to use a seperate profile for 57
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• 2789[19:00:45] <annadane> so you don't get the two mixed up
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• 2791[19:01:00] <xcvb> annadane, but i aptget removed 52??
• 2792[19:01:07] <annadane> oh
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• 2794[19:01:12] <xcvb> or was it a trick.... i thought i did but didnt?
• 2795[19:01:21] <annadane> no, it just means 57 is using ~/.mozilla
• 2796[19:01:32] <annadane> so it's up to you whether you want to keep using your old config or just make a new one
• 2797[19:02:05] <annadane> i'm not sure how well 57 maps with esr but i bet there are inconsistencies... i always tended to keep the two seperate but it's your choice
• 2798[19:02:53] <jelly> alternatively accessing the same (firefox) profile with different versions may make the older version unhappy yeah
• 2799[19:02:55] <xcvb> i dont want any esr or any old version.... i just want one
• 2800[19:03:08] <LtL> xcvb: ln -s /full/path/to/firefox/firefox ~/Desktop
• 2801[19:03:12] <xcvb> uhhhh complications
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• 2803[19:03:44] <annadane> xcvb, then you can just delete ~/.mozilla or alternatively ~/.config/mozilla
• 2804[19:03:55] <annadane> where . refers to hidden folder
• 2805[19:04:10] <annadane> (and ~ is home)
• 2806[19:04:11] <xcvb> and ~ referes to home
• 2807[19:04:13] <xcvb> yeah
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• 2809[19:04:16] <xcvb> idk
• 2810[19:04:39] <annadane> entirely up to you. you can invoke... i think firefox --profilemanager, or something like that, to just make a new one if you dont feel like it
• 2811[19:04:40] <LtL> annadane: i wouldn't delete anything
• 2812[19:05:19] <xcvb> does anyone else like replaced-url
• 2813[19:05:24] <LtL> esr and FF57 can co-exist under proper conditions
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• 2815[19:05:37] <jelly> annadane, why are you suggesting xcvb to wipe ~/.mozilla, ALL their firefox (and thunderbird) settings would be lost?
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• 2821[19:06:29] <annadane> right, probably just the config folder which contains mozilla then
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• 2827[19:08:34] <xcvb> okay......... so now to run FF
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• 2831[19:09:19] <xcvb> i have to cd to my downloads or whatever, because thats where it is i guess... and ./firefox
• 2832[19:09:29] <annadane> sorry. i have this bad habit of telling people to follow advice that i usually do myself and take for granted, the wires get crossed in my mind
• 2833[19:09:38] <xcvb> but can i move it i guess to a more appropriate place?
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• 2835[19:09:54] <xcvb> and then just click some icon on my sidebar thing or whatever
• 2836[19:10:08] <xcvb> or should i just deal with the way it is now? because i can
• 2837[19:10:21] <xcvb> it went from v52 to 57 so im happy
• 2838[19:10:24] <ahmadadnan> hi, anyone could help me regarding bonding not working?
• 2839[19:10:54] <annadane> ahmadadnan, probably yes though you've already asked in oftc
• 2840[19:10:56] <annadane> ahmadadnan, but it
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• 2842[19:11:02] <annadane> ahmadadnan, but it's hard to help without more details
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• 2845[19:12:18] <xcvb> i want to thank you all mi amigos
• 2846[19:12:31] <xcvb> its nice to have some place to come ask questions when im too drunk or stupid to figure it out
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• 2849[19:12:59] <ahmadadnan> @annadane thanks for your response, please tell me what details should I provide.
• 2850[19:13:02] <xcvb> i got my firefox addon that lets me have 600 tabs at at time, so its all okay
• 2851[19:13:07] <annadane> xcvb, depends on what de/wm you use, not sure how you'd get an icon to appear with a tar but it's possible you can do it
• 2852[19:13:13] <jelly> xcvb: you can mv the whole unpacked firefox/ folder elsewhere, just avoid doing it while firefox is running
• 2853[19:13:19] <annadane> ahmadadnan, well, the details you provided in #debian on oftc
• 2854[19:13:38] <annadane> not everyone is a fan of crossposting but i won't argue it
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• 2856[19:14:09] <kfedora> i have a hard disk encryption on my fedora 27 with gnome. can i set it up so that I don't have to enter the password when I boot to log in but need a password to resume from suspend?
• 2857[19:14:28] <annadane> xcvb, and, yeah, be careful of what you delete in .mozilla. depending on your setup don't just wipe everything blindly, that was stupid on my part.
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• 2859[19:14:46] <annadane> !fedora
• 2860[19:14:46] <dpkg> Fedora is the Red Hat-derived distribution of Linux, although it is not supported by Red Hat officially, you can get help from the community: #fedora on irc.freenode.net. replaced-url
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• 2862[19:15:33] <xcvb> jelly, where should i move it? i understand my downloads folder is not key
• 2863[19:15:36] <jelly> ahmadadnan: which debian release? exactly what bonding config you have in place? are links up seen from the switch side? contents of /proc/net/bonding/bond0 (or whatever the name of bonding device)
• 2864[19:15:40] <jelly> !ask
• 2865[19:15:41] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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• 2867[19:16:11] <jelly> xcvb: dunno, I keep it under /opt/firefox
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• 2875[19:19:18] <ahmadadnan> @jelly - from /var/log/messages : device bond0 entered promicious mode
• 2876[19:19:25] <kfedora> but the problem is then you have to make it writable by the current user jelly
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• 2879[19:20:47] <kfedora> thanks annadane I asked in the wrong channel :P
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• 2881[19:22:07] <ahmadadnan> @jelly - from /proc/net/bonding/bond0 : Mii status down for bond0, eno3 and eno4
• 2882[19:22:35] <ahmadadnan> also the linked failure count : 1
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• 2884[19:23:09] <yakobob> greetings
• 2885[19:23:14] <wadadli> thank you yakobob
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• 2887[19:23:48] <yakobob> #flood
• 2888[19:23:54] <yakobob> whoot? :D
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• 2891[19:24:27] <annadane> delete the relevant folder in ~/.mozilla/firefox, is probably what i meant, earlier
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• 2893[19:24:37] <annadane> after making sure you don't need anything from it
• 2894[19:24:41] <wadadli> who can provide me with some insight as to why the debian maintainers do things the way they do (as in, not updating packages, etc)!
• 2895[19:24:50] <annadane> there. stream of consciousness support is a very bad thing
• 2896[19:25:07] <annadane> wadadli, depends on the package, i would think
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• 2898[19:25:18] <annadane> xcvb, ^ for firefox stuff
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• 2903[19:26:15] <annadane> wadadli, in the case of stable, packages only get "updated" (though there are security and bug fixes in point releases in the meantime) every ~2 years
• 2904[19:26:44] <nicoasPL[m]> hi, how can i upgrade all packages from debian backports? with one command
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• 2910[19:32:00] <LtL> nicoasPL[m]: i don't think you can, secondly it's a very bad idea in general
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• 2913[19:35:16] <totss> <nicoasPL[m]> u need to install it one by one
• 2914[19:36:26] <nicoasPL[m]> LtL: you you think that ?
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• 2916[19:36:46] <nicoasPL[m]> totss: no xd i do it last time xd
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• 2920[19:38:35] <totss> <nicoasPL[m]> : woops.. Did u mean update/upgrade distro?
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• 2923[19:39:03] <nicoasPL[m]> upgrade but not distro , packages like GIMP and rest
• 2924[19:40:04] <totss> <nicoasPL[m]>: nice 😁
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• 2926[19:40:20] <flux242> how can one be happy after upgrading to ff 57?
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• 2928[19:40:47] <TimEnchanter> condition = ${if match{$h_Received:}{\N\.(domain1|domain2|domain3)\.com\N}{yes}{no}} replaced-url
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• 2930[19:41:07] <TimEnchanter> Now, the regex only works on .dcom domains, rihtght?
• 2931[19:41:19] <flux242> i've put ff 56 on hold, there's no way i'm upgrading it
• 2932[19:41:22] <TimEnchanter> if I wanted to use other domains, I'd remove the \.com part?
• 2933[19:41:45] <wadadli> sure but why annadane
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• 2935[19:42:02] <annadane> wadadli, because stable prides itself on stability
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• 2937[19:44:18] <annadane> wadadli, however, replaced-url
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• 2949[19:48:27] <LtL> nicoasPL[m]: yes, i think that. i only backport a few simple packages. stable backports is probably not populated to any great extent at this time anyway.
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• 2964[19:52:29] <LtL> nicoasPL[m]: you can always check with 'apt-cache policy packagename' to see what is available. provided backports is in sources.list and updated.
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• 2970[19:54:45] <wadadli> annadane: are you sure? it seems to me that there's more rational behind the approach than just stabillity
• 2971[19:55:05] <annadane> wadadli, well, stability + unchanging packages
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• 2973[19:55:13] <annadane> which is the other meaning of "stability"
• 2974[19:55:21] <annadane> if you run a server you don't want unexpected changes etc
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• 2976[19:56:12] <annadane> (debian unstable doesn't refer to how likely it is to break for example, it just means maintainers frequently introduce changes and updates)
• 2977[19:56:13] <wadadli> sure but ubuntu's enterprise solutions are far more up to date, would you argue that they are unstable?
• 2978[19:56:22] <annadane> well, that's not really for me to say
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• 2980[19:56:57] <syslq> Ubuntu is building on the unstable and testing debian base I think
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• 2982[19:57:07] <annadane> right
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• 2984[19:57:20] <syslq> Testing is not really unstable in exact sense of word
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• 2986[19:57:42] <syslq> I had problems with it maybe two times in years
• 2987[19:57:50] <annadane> nor is unstable... they both tend to be pretty solid but the rationale why people use stable is 1) for stability and 2) to have a fixed system
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• 2989[19:58:11] <syslq> yep
• 2990[19:58:41] <syslq> Also stable packages do get upgraded if there is a larger security flaw
• 2991[19:58:57] <syslq> I like stable, it basically just works once you set it up
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• 2993[19:59:22] <wadadli> Tianhe-2 runs on Ubuntu
• 2994[19:59:51] <syslq> wadadli, and ubuntu runs on debian :)
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• 2997[20:00:51] <wadadli> that's like saying burger king runs on mcdonnalds
• 2998[20:00:52] <jelly> nicoasPL[m], you can't
• 2999[20:01:18] <syslq> wadadli, not true, ubuntu uses debian as base. It's like saying that burger king runs on beef
• 3000[20:01:21] <jelly> whoops, scrolled way back
• 3001[20:01:39] <LtL> why are we talking about ubuntu ¿?¿?
• 3002[20:01:46] <syslq> Right :)
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• 3004[20:02:16] <wadadli> LtL: From the smallest IoT device to some of the world’s largest telcos, Ubuntu plays a pivotal role behind the scenes.
• 3005[20:02:54] <wadadli> syslq: We were discussing the changes Ubuntu made that Debian didn't, that made it a more successful OS.
• 3006[20:02:57] <annadane> wadadli, you should probably read the DFSG and social contract, they can explain much better
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• 3008[20:03:05] <LtL> wadadli: that may be, point being this is #debian :)
• 3009[20:03:09] <jelly> wadadli, let's keep this channel for tech support, if you want to., continue this conversation in #debian-offtopic
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• 3011[20:03:19] <syslq> wadadli, sorry,but that's plain bullshit. Linux kernel plays pivotal role...
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• 3013[20:03:50] <annadane> er, well, maybe those don't explain it, but in any case, yes, getting off topic
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• 3016[20:04:54] <syslq> Right... sorry for my outburst. I really dislike marketing & PR
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• 3023[20:06:21] <ahmadadnan> @annadane - may I know the details given enough or not?
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• 3025[20:06:54] <annadane> ahmadadnan, anything you think is appropriate. it's not really my area, though. you might want to restate the question you have as it's been quite a while
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• 3028[20:07:52] <wadadli> syslq: I actually do not use Ubuntu, I was just curious as to why Debian is favored by sysadmins for it's stability, yet not as commonly used in enterprise computing, but anyways dun't wanna go further off topic
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• 3030[20:07:56] <jelly> ahmadadnan, one line doesn't say a lot. put the WHOLE interface config, and contents of your /proc/net/bonding/bond0, and at least last 100 lines of dmesg, into a pastebin
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• 3033[20:08:41] <jelly> ahmadadnan, you did not say which debian release you were running, either
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• 3036[20:09:24] <jelly> ahmadadnan, but better the whole dmesg, or /var/log/kern.log since last reboot
• 3037[20:09:47] <syslq> wadadli, ubuntu is not widely use in enterprise, RHEL is.
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• 3039[20:10:20] <ahmadadnan> jelly, okay. will update
• 3040[20:10:55] <jelly> syslq, really. #debian-offtopic or drop it.
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• 3044[20:11:09] <syslq> jelly, droping it, sorry
• 3045[20:11:16] <wadadli> syslq: come to offtopic
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• 3068[20:22:00] <vic21> Are Firefox and Chrome really the only multi platform browsers not counting the other browsers that use Firefox's and Chrome's engines?
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• 3070[20:22:42] <jelly> vic21, pretty much, yeah
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• 3164[21:28:22] <egrain> anyone familiar with nft? the netfilter guys are very quiet today. is ct state direction the same is --ctstate DNAT?
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• 3205[22:05:39] <saber9> Hi
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• 3207[22:05:57] <saber9> can i ask help at my shell code here ??
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• 3210[22:09:15] <deltam> saber9, #bash is the best channel for that topic
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• 3212[22:09:29] <saber9> thanks
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• 3224[22:16:06] <Johnjay> is there a way to use pkg-config to download missing packages with apt-get?
• 3225[22:16:23] <Johnjay> I ran a build script and it said pkg-config reports missing libraries. So I had to go through each library and check the return value of pkg-config.
• 3226[22:16:45] <Johnjay> then try to guess what it might be called in apt. is there a faster way?
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• 3230[22:18:29] <GNU\colossus> Johnjay, you mean like replaced-url
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• 3235[22:19:48] <Johnjay> right. i tried that first GNU\colossus but it seemed to not work
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• 3239[22:20:03] <Johnjay> the pkg-config command was from the source directly downloaded from github
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• 3242[22:20:21] <Johnjay> i guess that was different than running apt-get build-dep <package> on my actual system
• 3243[22:20:49] <Johnjay> dunno if that's an issue with the packager, the maintainer, or how
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• 3245[22:21:07] <foul_owl> Is it possible to download a single deb from stretch if I'm on jessie?
• 3246[22:21:42] <foul_owl> I'm trying to get: replaced-url
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• 3249[22:22:03] <foul_owl> I downloaded the source and tried to compile but it requires a version of cmake that isn't on jessie :(
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• 3262[22:30:50] <areyouloco> how can I join #debian-next? pidgin says i need invitation
• 3263[22:31:12] <inSync> areyouloco: its in OFTC
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• 3266[22:32:22] <areyouloco> inSync: ok thanks
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• 3278[22:39:10] <warai_otoko> hello!
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• 3280[22:39:48] <warai_otoko> is it possible to make packages of ALL files with dpkg-repack?
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• 3283[22:40:34] <warai_otoko> currently I can only build packages when I know the EXACT name and only one by one :(
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• 3295[22:49:41] <rant> warai_otoko: what exactly are you trying to accomplish? repacking your whole system seems pointless
• 3296[22:50:33] <warai_otoko> rant, I try to repack packages from a live ISO
• 3297[22:51:11] <warai_otoko> this ISO I can't add as a repo because it doesn't provide *.deb files
• 3298[22:51:48] <rant> warai_otoko: why would you be trying to use a live iso as a repo in the first place?
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• 3300[22:52:09] <warai_otoko> it's a PS3 :D
• 3301[22:52:12] <rant> its meant to be ran as-is or installed as-is
• 3302[22:52:32] <rant> warai_otoko: as in Sony Playstation?
• 3303[22:52:56] <warai_otoko> and the Linux here is quite obscure, "Red Ribbon" is its name
• 3304[22:53:11] <warai_otoko> yes, crazy hobby, I know
• 3305[22:53:37] <sillyslux> oh i thought of it the other day, how powerful is it's cpu actually?
• 3306[22:53:48] <sillyslux> or compared to todays intel cpus?
• 3307[22:53:59] <rant> never heard of it though I never heard of doing linux on a PS3 either.. the PS2 had a linux dev kit, but it didnt really take off. I know the PS3 supposedly has some hardware hypervisor
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• 3311[22:54:29] <rant> which is one reason trying to run anything on it is a bad idea because you can't access the hardware directly
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• 3314[22:56:32] <warai_otoko> if you are able to access the SPUs, rumors have it about 224 GFlops :)
• 3315[22:56:57] <warai_otoko> but yes, the hypervisor is a huge problem:
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• 3318[22:57:21] <warai_otoko> e.g., we can't access the Nvidia GPU with its 256MB
• 3319[22:57:27] <rant> its supposedly an octacore cpu but at least one of the cores is hardware disabled
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• 3322[22:58:29] <rant> in any case though this issue cannot be supported here and if it has a debian based system you should be able to use internet mirrors or regular ISOs using a live iso is just silly
• 3323[22:58:34] <warai_otoko> octa regarding the SPUs alone. Plus dualcore PPEs makes it a ten core machine
• 3324[23:00:07] <warai_otoko> PPEs use PowerPC instructions. That's why we have to stick to Debian Jessie (8.x)
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• 3326[23:01:01] <sillyslux> oh... replaced-url
• 3327[23:01:36] <sillyslux> lol irc://irc.oftc.net/debian-ps3
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• 3329[23:02:36] <sillyslux> more lols "...the CD drive somehow gets lost early in the install process."
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• 3332[23:02:50] <warai_otoko> the wiki really doesn't tell much: "red ribbon" includes all of the enhancements for the PS3 platform
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• 3337[23:03:18] <warai_otoko> but thanks for the oftc IRC! was unknown to me
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• 3339[23:03:39] <warai_otoko> actually I installed it via USB in July
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• 3343[23:04:31] <warai_otoko> but this week messed up a bit: included SID, some stuff is quirky now
• 3344[23:05:07] <warai_otoko> that's why I just want to install the old live ISO stuff to repair it
• 3345[23:05:34] <sillyslux> oh, you've used since july? how was it?
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• 3349[23:07:16] <warai_otoko> RAM is the biggest problem
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• 3351[23:07:27] <warai_otoko> 220MB in reality
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• 3353[23:07:33] <sillyslux> aww :(
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• 3357[23:09:19] <warai_otoko> yeah. even LXDE gets damn slow from time to time
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• 3359[23:09:36] <warai_otoko> but hey, I'm a fan of the CPU
• 3360[23:09:43] <rant> the 8th gen consoles all went back to x86 and have over 8gb memory
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• 3362[23:10:06] <warai_otoko> just seing Linux running on it is a mighty good feeling :D
• 3363[23:10:53] <warai_otoko> rant, but don't forget: needing RAM is an indicator the CPU sucks ;)
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• 3370[23:14:23] <rant> needing ram is an indicator its designed to do something
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• 3372[23:15:24] <warai_otoko> actually, a really good CPU doesn't need much RAM
• 3373[23:15:54] <warai_otoko> and of course it depends what "something" the CPU should do
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• 3380[23:22:15] <nicoasPL[m]> hi, how i coul transform debian stretch into subgraph os ?
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• 3385[23:24:30] <warai_otoko> btw: does anyone know what to do if my terminal says "chroot: command not found"? I think I messed up the directory where it resides?
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• 3390[23:29:11] <Eduard_Munteanu> warai_otoko, perhaps you're not root
• 3391[23:30:02] <warai_otoko> Eduard, I was on sudo in that case
• 3392[23:30:30] <themill> what does "on sudo" mean? Real commands and real output in a pastebin might help
• 3393[23:30:39] <nobody> warai_otoko: can you locate chroot? which chroot
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• 3395[23:31:02] <themill> (sbin isn't normally in the user's path)
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• 3400[23:33:47] <warai_otoko> nobody, which and locate bring nothing back, unfortunately
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• 3402[23:34:28] <warai_otoko> ahh, nobody, thanks! had to do it with sudo :D
• 3403[23:34:40] <warai_otoko> question solved ^^
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• 3410[23:42:22] <cesurasean> sup sup
• 3411[23:42:31] <cesurasean> thx for fixing introduce bug into bluetooth on debian sid
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• 3413[23:42:33] <cesurasean> idiots
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• 3423[23:47:05] <warai_otoko> SID is not for the faint hearted. Learned that lesson this week :/
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• 3428[23:49:51] <themill> cesurasean: bugs happen. As part of the community that is helping to build debian, you get to help fix them too. Leave name calling to the school kids.
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