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0[00:00:10] <doslas> RSS in debian
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8[00:01:54] <annadane> doslas, i use liferea which is quite
nice
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16[00:03:27] <doslas> Ok thank you, I'll try it.
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27[00:08:56] <doslas> virtualbox Does not exist
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28[00:09:13] <doslas> in synabtic
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29[00:09:38] <annadane> doslas, it's in backports
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30[00:09:40] <annadane> !backports
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31[00:09:40] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian
branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency
and <ABI> complications.
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32[00:09:56] <annadane> er
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33[00:10:01] <annadane> !debian-backports
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34[00:10:01] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly
backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for
the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable
(<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian
developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read
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35[00:10:18] <annadane> okay, that's probably too much
information for a simple request
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36[00:10:51] <doslas> virtualbox-qt
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38[00:11:14] <doslas> virtualbox-qt:
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39[00:11:14] <doslas> Package virtualbox-qt has no available
version, but exists in the database.
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40[00:11:14] <doslas> This typically means that the package was
mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or
is not available with the contents of sources.list
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43[00:11:50] <fluffyduff> yes i was missing virtualbox as well
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44[00:12:01] <doslas> exists but refuses
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45[00:12:06] <fluffyduff> i tried qemu instead, which also
works quite well
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50[00:13:06] <annadane> doslas, edit your sources list so that
it has this line: deb
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56[00:13:49] <annadane>
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57[00:13:55] <user__93459> this can also be done from the
Software & Updates app on the Other Software tab
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58[00:14:07] <annadane> right, you're using synaptic
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59[00:14:12] <annadane> which i'm not wholly familiar with
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61[00:14:19] <fluffyduff> yes, it is in backports
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62[00:14:31] <doslas> yes
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67[00:16:02] <fluffyduff> so apt-get should work, i am not sure
how to get packages from backports via synaptic as well
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72[00:17:10] <annadane> anyway, what i said will work if
you're brave enough to use the terminal
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74[00:18:13] <doslas> i can do it
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77[00:18:25] <user__93459> terminal is probably best because
editing sources in GUI for me always results in the cache refresh
freezing
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79[00:18:53] <user__93459> thinking about filing a bug report
on that when i get the time
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82[00:19:16] <annadane> terminal can probably also give you
more information than synaptic and i prefer it in general
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84[00:20:13] <doslas> annadane, Thank you so much, problem
solved.
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87[00:20:21] <annadane> :)
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88[00:20:26] <user__93459> that's great! :D
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91[00:21:05] <doslas> A lot of options have emerged.
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92[00:21:38] <doslas> What did he choose to install?
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93[00:21:49] <annadane> sorry?
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94[00:22:07] <doslas> virtualbox or virtualbox-qt?
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95[00:22:19] <doslas> or ....
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100[00:23:02] <doslas> virtualbox-source
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102[00:23:18] <annadane> afaik virtualbox-qt has a GUI whereas
regular virtualbox doesn't
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104[00:24:34] <doslas> ok thankyou so much
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106[00:24:48] <user__93459> a problem was solved for me because
of this too :)
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110[00:25:04] <user__93459> apparantly I was inputting malformed
sources into the GUI and that is why it was hanging
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111[00:25:14] <annadane> but because virtualbox is a dependency
of virtualbox-qt it means you also installed virtualbox when you
installed qt
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125[00:28:30] <doslas> annadane, Yes, I already noticed that. :)
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127[00:29:15] <doslas> annadane, I'm grateful to you.
thanks
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130[00:30:13] <doslas> i will try liferea now
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133[00:30:57] <annadane> liferea *isn't* in backports. :P
you can just apt install it
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134[00:31:21] <annadane> (or use synaptic i guess)
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135[00:31:24] <annadane> (frowny face)
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147[00:34:10] <doslas> :)
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148[00:34:15] <doslas> How do I know the RSS link for the site?
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151[00:35:08] <annadane> i typically just add the page i want by
"subscriptions - new subscription"
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153[00:35:21] <annadane> not all sites have RSS feeds however
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159[00:36:54] <annadane> ah, new subscription is also in the top
bar anyway (on sid, probably the same in stretch)
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170[00:41:39] <doslas> How do I add a channel link on YouTube?
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175[00:44:13] <annadane> i don't know, let me see if it
even works like that
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176[00:44:24] <annadane> (i am not an expert on liferea)
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178[00:45:10] <annadane> doslas, i just tried it and you can
just put in the url like any other site
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181[00:45:59] <doslas> yes :)
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182[00:46:07] <doslas> i do this
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187[00:48:57] <annadane> i'm going shopping, if you have
any other questions i'm sure someone else here can field them
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189[00:49:46] <doslas> annadane, OK Thank you
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190[00:50:14] <doslas> Nice to meet you.
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213[00:57:54] <andrej> Looking at /var/log/apt/history.log ...
when running an install via ansible I see both -o
Dpkg::Options::=--force-confdef -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confold
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214[00:57:58] <andrej> which of these two options takes?
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215[00:58:02] <andrej> My problem is that installing a random
package seemingly replaced the machines exim4 config with the
package-maintainers one ... not cool, especially if the package is
unrelated to exim ;/
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286[01:39:19] <IHaveNoName> Idk why i aint sleeping lol im
started my frist set of year11 mocks
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294[01:45:22] <sioux_> qual programa usar to boot debian net
install no windows
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297[01:45:32] <sioux_> ops !
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299[01:46:33] <sioux_> which the ideal program to use usb boot
on windows?
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301[01:47:43] <annadane> sioux_, you mean for copying a debian
iso to a usb? win32diskimager
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302[01:47:46] <annadane> !win32diskimager
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303[01:47:46] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than
<unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can
download it from
replaced-url
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304[01:48:25] <iflema> rufus
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305[01:48:29] <sioux_> annadane: tks! ;)
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306[01:48:35] <annadane> no, not rufus
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307[01:48:37] <annadane> rufus is bad
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308[01:49:33] <toruvinn> bad rufus, bad! sit! ;-)
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312[01:50:42] <annadane> *i* used rufus, back when i didn't
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314[01:50:47] <annadane> do not recommend
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316[01:51:10] <iflema> pffff
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317[01:51:24] <toruvinn> hrmf worked for me.
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320[01:52:40] <iflema> what do the kids use these days i wonder
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321[01:52:44] <iflema> lol
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326[01:53:50] <NEOalquimista> I used LiLi for a long time, but I
was so noob. It worked though.
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327[01:53:54] <iflema> with all these bad ideas flying around...
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329[01:54:31] <iflema> rpis and what not
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346[02:01:32] <bubb1> I want to download kali linux and bort it
on my USB
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347[02:01:40] <bubb1> Boot*
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348[02:02:14] <bubb1> But I cant find the ISO file Im pretty
nooby
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350[02:02:31] <dvs> !kali
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351[02:02:31] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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377[02:22:17] <bubb1> I got no one responding in
#kali-linux-arms. I can’t find that channel you are talking
about either. I just want a ISO file for kali linux. But all I get
is a mess of files from the official website for images. Does
anybody know here How to get a proper ISO file from linux website. I
just want the diskimage file, not all this mess: .disk, boot, dists,
efi, firmware, install, isolinux, live, pool,
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378[02:22:17] <bubb1> tools, autorun, efi, g2ldr, g2ldr.mbr,
md5sum, setup, win32-loader
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384[02:24:11] <dvs> We don't know kali in #debian
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392[02:27:00] <enerlona> hi?
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393[02:27:05] <bubb1> Ji
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394[02:27:07] <bubb1> Hi
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396[02:27:23] <enerlona> is it oke to ask a question?
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397[02:27:26] <patterson> http download says it's
downloading iso
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398[02:28:17] <enerlona> after manual install debian. i get a
black screen what to do? i never entered the grub
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404[02:30:30] <enerlona> someone?
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407[02:31:33] <slipttees> Hi guys. I have an little question.
Install debian stretch minimal + gnome. But now, need change gnome
for lxde? how install lxde and remove gnome 3?
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410[02:32:45] <slipttees> install lxde <sudo apt-get install
lxde> how full remove gnome?
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411[02:34:44] <enerlona> no one answer here too bad
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412[02:35:11] <slipttees> enerlona: maybe i can help you, talk
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413[02:35:31] <dvs> !tell slipttees about remove gnome
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414[02:35:51] <enerlona> well i was installing debian ( im a
noob) but after install i just get a black screen with a underscore
above
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415[02:35:52] <dvs> that needs updating
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416[02:36:44] <slipttees> enerlona: okay... u need desktop
envaroment
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417[02:37:03] <ransur0t> enerlona: ctrl+alt+F1
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420[02:37:35] <enerlona> i will try righy now
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421[02:37:35] <ransur0t> can you get to tty?
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422[02:38:10] <slipttees> enerlona: how desktop u like? gnome,
lxde, kde? u know rigth?
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423[02:38:34] <slipttees> dvs: dpkg --get-selections | awk
'{if ($2=="install") print $1}' > gnome_pkgs
&& cat gnome_pkgs | grep gnome | xargs -l1 apt-get --purge
remove -y # apt-get autoremove --purge -y
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425[02:38:59] <slipttees> dvs: thanks! ;-)
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426[02:39:11] <enerlona> ctrl alt f1 is not working tho
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427[02:39:12] <dvs> oh, no prob
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429[02:40:36] <slipttees> enerlona: black screen type user?
cursor blink?
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430[02:40:43] <Krennic> /b 31
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431[02:41:03] <enerlona> yes like a underscore blinking
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432[02:41:05] <ransur0t> when you boot, do you reach grub boot
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433[02:41:09] <enerlona> no
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434[02:41:28] <slipttees> enerlona: type you user and password
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436[02:41:46] <slipttees> enerlona: hummm....
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438[02:42:11] <fuzzybuzz> what is the most stable/conservative
torrent client in debian?
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439[02:42:14] <enerlona> i finished installing the debian. it
said take out your boot usb so i did
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440[02:42:19] <enerlona> and now i got a black screen
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441[02:42:33] <fuzzybuzz> no desktop was installed?
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442[02:42:47] <enerlona> no :(
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443[02:43:03] <fuzzybuzz> do you remember your root password?
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444[02:43:09] <enerlona> yes
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445[02:43:42] <fuzzybuzz> type in root(enter)yourpassword(enter)
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450[02:45:37] * slipttees by gnome
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452[02:45:53] * slipttees bye bye slow gnome! ?D
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453[02:46:16] <fuzzybuzz> i use lxde, it is all i need
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455[02:46:42] <dvs> edlin is all I need!
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456[02:46:59] <slipttees> lxde rules kk
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464[02:49:09] <fuzzybuzz> i want to create an apt-transport for
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466[02:49:45] <fuzzybuzz> the idea is to fetch the whole
repository once and put it in a torrent file.
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469[02:50:09] <fuzzybuzz> then each day an new torrent file is
created for the updates
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473[02:50:41] <fuzzybuzz> (created automatically)
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475[02:51:41] <fuzzybuzz> all the packages versions will be kept
in a torrents.gz file, which tells apt which torrent it needs to
download to download the actual package.
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476[02:52:05] <fuzzybuzz> is this a good idea?
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478[02:52:19] <fuzzybuzz> i would like to get in contact with
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479[02:52:43] <Krennic> b 21
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483[02:55:14] <fuzzybuzz> b 21 is the very short version of
"grow up"? :-)
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495[02:59:30] <enerlona> hi
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498[03:00:09] <enerlona> anyone active?
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499[03:01:04] <annadane> enerlona, just ask your question
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500[03:01:11] <annadane> oh
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501[03:01:15] <annadane> i see you were here before
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502[03:01:27] <enerlona> yes im still stuck :(
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505[03:03:09] <fuzzybuzz> maybe the easiest thing is to
reinstall and chosing to also install an desktop environment
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507[03:03:17] <annadane> i see ctrl alt f1 didn't work, can
you try f2 through f6?
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510[03:03:32] <annadane> also how did you write the image to
your install medium? what program/method?
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511[03:03:47] <enerlona> i went all the way to f12 with it :$
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512[03:03:57] <fuzzybuzz> ah did not get this
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513[03:04:01] <annadane> it's possible grub just isn't
loading
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514[03:04:10] <annadane> or installed in the wrong partition
somehow
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517[03:04:54] <enerlona> i wanted to make a n encrypted internal
hard drive partition and access it with a USB flash drive boot key
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521[03:06:28] <annadane> i'll be back, i need to reboot
some updates
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522[03:06:38] <enerlona> okii
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525[03:07:18] <fuzzybuzz> did you put the boot sector onto the
usb drive?
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526[03:07:45] <enerlona> yes
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529[03:09:21] <enerlona> brb
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532[03:10:05] <annadane> okay, so let me scroll up and get a
better understanding of your problem
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534[03:10:46] <annadane> okay, well.
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537[03:11:36] <annadane> if you can't access a virtual
terminal and you don't have a live image i would say you should
just reinstall; i'm not sure what wrong during your install
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538[03:11:53] <annadane> enerlona, how did you put the iso on
the install media?
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543[03:15:02] <enerlona> i have used rufus
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545[03:15:11] <annadane> okay, so rufus is generally bad
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547[03:15:25] <annadane> if you're on windows, i would
rewrite the image using win32diskimager
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548[03:15:27] <annadane> !win32diskimager
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549[03:15:28] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than
<unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can
download it from
replaced-url
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551[03:15:59] <annadane> (see guys?)
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553[03:16:26] <fuzzybuzz> wow, it's so much more reliable!
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555[03:16:48] <fuzzybuzz> (acting like in a commercial) ;-)
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556[03:16:53] <enerlona> oke give me some time :$
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558[03:17:23] <annadane> things like rufus and unetbootin
generally corrupt the image and are to be avoided
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560[03:18:41] <fuzzybuzz> you can check the image hashsum if you
want to be sure
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566[03:20:44] <enerlona> oki its installed
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567[03:20:55] <enerlona> will download a new iso. because i was
still using the 9.1
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571[03:21:34] <annadane> if you're using the netinst iso it
shouldn't be necessary to download 9.2 as it should update
automatically
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572[03:21:59] <annadane> but i suppose it's always good to
have a newer version available
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574[03:23:17] <enerlona> oke u gonna laugh, i also think i used
the wrong installer. this 9.2 is like 3.7gb the other was only 250
mb :$
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575[03:23:32] <fuzzybuzz> its dvd 1 probably
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576[03:23:46] <fuzzybuzz> should be fine
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577[03:23:46] <annadane> you're probably using the dvd for
the 3.7gb one, right
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580[03:23:58] <enerlona> yes
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581[03:24:17] <annadane> if you have an internet connection you
can just
replaced-url
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584[03:24:59] <annadane> i am assuming you're on amd64
(most people are) so what you probably want is
replaced-url
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585[03:25:21] <enerlona> yes i am
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589[03:28:08] <annadane> you can take a look at
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598[03:32:55] <enerlona> oeps dced
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600[03:33:17] <annadane> you can take a look at
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601[03:33:41] <enerlona> thnx
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602[03:33:48] <enerlona> hash is zero, just started the writing
on the usb
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609[03:37:09] <enerlona> well will try again the whole install
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611[03:38:03] <dcxaq> hi
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612[03:38:06] <dcxaq> plz help me with acpi
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614[03:38:17] <annadane> dcxaq, sure, ask your question
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617[03:38:29] <dcxaq> ok so in my laptop there is fn(function
key) and there is fn + f1 that have sleep. when i click it a window
open, name xfce4-session-logout . and I want to override it to
something else. any idea how to do it? I tried to look on the key
using acpi_listen program but i don't know how to continue
after that
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620[03:38:57] <dcxaq> annadane: i dont have anything in
/etc/acpi/events and not in /etc/acpi I created a script
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621[03:39:14] <annadane> well, i don't know the answer to
that; someone else probably does
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622[03:39:18] <annadane> i don't really use xfce
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623[03:39:21] <dcxaq> annadane: i created 2 files one in
/etc/acpi: sleepbtn-acpi-support.sh
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624[03:39:26] <dcxaq> that's xfce problem?
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625[03:39:44] <dcxaq> annadane: xfce doesn't provide acpi,
it isn't part of xfce or part of any desktop
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629[03:40:48] <dcxaq> help?
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633[03:41:28] <somiaj> dcxaq: that key combo is producing some
code that xfce, you can change the keybinding to do other things.
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637[03:42:01] <dcxaq> somiaj: i tried but no avail
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638[03:42:09] <annadane> oh, right. probably conflicting
keybinds
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639[03:42:22] <dcxaq> annadane: i tried but no avail
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641[03:42:45] <somiaj> you could figure out what keycode is
being geneated, but you would have to do this without xfce running
so xev could see what key was being pressed
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644[03:43:05] <annadane> dcxaq, when you say you want to change
it to "something else" it depends on what you want to
accomplish specifically, may be a simple solution
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648[03:43:30] <dcxaq> somiaj: button/sleep SBTN 00000080
00000000 K
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650[03:44:05] <dcxaq> annadane: i want it to lock the desktop
and go to sleep
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651[03:44:14] <somiaj> I would see what xev says about it, then
yuo know what key to bind it too.
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652[03:44:22] <dcxaq> idk how to use xev
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653[03:44:23] <somiaj> it might just be called SLEEP by xorg.
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656[03:44:56] <dcxaq> xev is very difficult
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657[03:45:08] <somiaj> run xev from a console, it opens up a
window and records events such as key presses
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661[03:45:58] <dcxaq> somiaj: but i cant find something there
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662[03:45:58] <somiaj> though most likely it is sleep, look up
xfce's key bindings.
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663[03:46:09] <dcxaq> how to look on xfce's keybindings?
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665[03:46:19] <somiaj> well if xfce is running, it won't
produce any output because xfce will intercept the event and xev
won't see it
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666[03:46:32] <dcxaq> i dont think i can see it
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667[03:46:34] <somiaj> there isn't a setting for this under
its menus?
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669[03:46:42] <dcxaq> somiaj: keyboard shortcuts?
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670[03:46:47] <fuzzybuzz> thats not the case under lxde though
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671[03:46:51] <fuzzybuzz> i just tried it
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672[03:46:57] <dcxaq> fuzzybuzz: what did you try?
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676[03:47:34] <fuzzybuzz> starting xev and seeing events
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677[03:47:41] <somiaj> Try using this, Settings > Window
Manager, Keyboard tab
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678[03:47:51] <somiaj> and look through the keybindings
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680[03:47:56] <dcxaq> somiaj: its nice you know these stuff. i
see only MotionNotify event
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681[03:48:06] <dcxaq> and KeymapNotify
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682[03:48:15] <fuzzybuzz> ah, xfce catches the keybinding, i get
it now
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683[03:48:21] <fuzzybuzz> my bad
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685[03:48:37] <somiaj> Yea, that is why I suggested running an
xorg session with only xev and no xfce so you could see the event
the key triggered
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687[03:48:55] <somiaj> then bind the correct action tot hat key.
Though it is most likely SLEEP so you canlook that up in the
keybindings
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688[03:49:08] <dcxaq> somiaj: i dont know how to do that :<
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689[03:49:09] <somiaj> I don't really use xfce, but there
should be a way to configure those. I found this with google
replaced-url
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690[03:49:58] <dcxaq> but mine is function key
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692[03:50:50] <somiaj> no, its if fn+some other key, which
triggers a single keypress event.
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694[03:51:43] <dcxaq> it's fn+f1
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696[03:52:09] <somiaj> okay, but what matters is the key event
that gets triggerd so you can bind it. But just look through the
defaults in xfce
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698[03:52:25] <dcxaq> i cant see it in xfce settings
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699[03:52:25] <iflema> also theres a8 in #debain-xfce
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700[03:52:31] <iflema> 18*
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701[03:52:32] <dcxaq> thats not XFCE
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702[03:52:48] <dcxaq> iflema: xfce doesn't provide acpi, it
isn't part of xfce or part of any desktop
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703[03:53:06] <annadane> i have xfce installed as one of my
desktops so i can quickly look and see if i can find stuff
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704[03:53:19] <dcxaq> annadane: so where is it?
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705[03:53:34] <annadane> well, where is what? i'm not
really following the conversation too well
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707[03:53:43] <dcxaq> ok
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708[03:53:45] <annadane> default keyboard shortcuts?
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709[03:53:46] <dcxaq> somiaj: mind you help?
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710[03:53:47] <iflema> dcxaq: acpi... what about it? Are you not
try to reassigna keyboard shortcut?
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711[03:53:59] <dcxaq> iflema: i did try to reassign but it
didn't work
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714[03:55:17] <annadane> if you just need to see what the
default shortcuts are i'm certain there's something for
that
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715[03:55:33] <annadane> i can briefly look for it but it should
be in the applications menu...
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716[03:55:57] <dcxaq> annadane: i looked it's not there
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718[03:56:26] <dcxaq> i didn't see any fn keys in xfce
shortcut
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720[03:56:34] <dcxaq> it's ACPI thing im pretty sure
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722[03:56:39] <dcxaq> so #debian problem
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735[04:00:31] <dcxaq> help plz
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740[04:03:27] * iflema busy... not reading about this... reading about
something else
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742[04:04:15] <annadane> i'm just having a hard time
understanding what you're looking for other than somiaj's
suggestion, do you just want to find the place where you can
configure keyboard shortcuts?
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746[04:04:57] <annadane> it may be in settings manager
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750[04:06:40] <annadane> dcxaq, ^
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752[04:07:20] <dcxaq> annadane: ok so in my laptop there is
fn(function key) and there is fn + f1 that have sleep. when i click
it a window open, name xfce4-session-logout . and I want to override
it to something else. any idea how to do it? I tried to look on the
key using acpi_listen program but i don't know how to continue
after that
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754[04:07:48] <annadane> dcxaq, i know that part, you already
said that
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755[04:08:01] <enerluna> well erasing data on partition -.-
gonna take a long time tho
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757[04:08:40] <annadane> dcxaq, did you try using xenv
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758[04:08:46] <annadane> xev*
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759[04:09:02] <dcxaq> yes
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762[04:09:15] <somiaj> from a session not running xfce, maybe a
session that is only running an xterm.
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763[04:09:18] <dcxaq> did you see what somiaj wrote?
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765[04:09:30] <dcxaq> how can i not run xfce
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766[04:09:35] <dcxaq> to move tty?
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767[04:09:47] <annadane> virtual terminal; alt f1 through f6
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768[04:09:54] <dcxaq> and then what
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769[04:09:55] <dcxaq> run xev?
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770[04:09:57] <dcxaq> it's gui app
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771[04:10:02] <somiaj> well you'll have to run an xorg
session that isn't xfce
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772[04:10:14] <annadane> oh, does it rely on xorg? sorry
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774[04:10:23] <dcxaq> how can i run xorg session
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775[04:10:41] <somiaj> if your login manager has a default
session, just put the command 'exec /usr/bin/xterm' in
~/.xsession and use the default session
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777[04:11:37] <dcxaq> i dont understand how to do that
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778[04:11:52] <dcxaq> i have lightdm
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779[04:12:02] <dcxaq> and what do we look for?
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780[04:12:06] <dcxaq> how is it going to help me?
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783[04:13:30] <dcxaq> somiaj: help?
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785[04:14:09] <somiaj> I just explained what to do. Put
'exec /usr/bin/xterm' in ~/.xsession and then login with
the 'default' session
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787[04:14:41] <annadane> dcxaq, general advice, when dealing
with technical issues, slow down a bit
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788[04:14:56] <dcxaq> do i have to restart?
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789[04:15:13] <dcxaq> ls: cannot access
'/home/dcxaq/.xsession': No such file or directory
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790[04:15:30] <dcxaq> annadane: its 5 AM :O
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791[04:15:50] <enerluna> jup -.- it is
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792[04:16:02] <annadane> well, fair enough
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793[04:16:15] <fuzzybuzz> another reason to slow down i guess
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794[04:17:02] <dcxaq> i dont have .xsession
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798[04:18:01] <somiaj> dcxaq: so create one
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800[04:18:14] <dcxaq> do i have to restart after that?
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802[04:18:52] <somiaj> just logout
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803[04:19:03] <dcxaq> and then what?
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804[04:19:06] <dcxaq> i forget..
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805[04:19:08] <somiaj> then from lightdm select the default
session
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806[04:19:25] <somiaj> then you should log into xorg, and the
only thing running is an xterm (make sure you have xterm installed
ro change the term that is run)
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807[04:19:38] <somiaj> after that you can run xev from xterm and
hit the keybinding and see what is reported.
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808[04:19:49] <dcxaq> ok brb
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809[04:20:16] <enerluna> if debian still isnt running in 1 hour
i will trow that pc out of the window
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813[04:21:15] <fuzzybuzz> do you have another one?
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814[04:21:44] <enerluna> no
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815[04:22:20] <dcxaq> brb
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818[04:22:56] <fuzzybuzz> personally i would just encrypt the
hdd and care about the dongle later in that case
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819[04:23:56] <fuzzybuzz> encrypt the hdd, copy the bootsector
to the dongle, delete the bootsector of the hdd after testing that
it works with the dongle
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822[04:24:33] <annadane> fuzzybuzz, wrong room?
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824[04:24:51] <dcxaq> hi
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826[04:24:58] <dcxaq> somiaj: nothing happen
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827[04:25:20] <enerluna> dcxaq u should also trow ur pc away
like me xD
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828[04:25:25] <somiaj> did you change the session to log in via
lightdm? I don't use a display manager so not sure where that
seting is
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829[04:25:46] <dcxaq> somiaj: i changed to xsession..
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830[04:25:57] <dcxaq> there was 2 sessions and i click one of
them but nothing do anything
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831[04:26:00] <fuzzybuzz> no, i was commenting on the debian
install with the usb dongle and the encrypted hdd
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833[04:26:41] <annadane> oh. i'm obviously tired and
can't read.
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834[04:26:44] <somiaj> dcxaq: anyways it sounds like the issue
is a keybinding and not an acip issue. and the window
manager/desktop can trigger different actions depending on the key
pressed.
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837[04:27:05] <dcxaq> somiaj: plz help
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838[04:27:16] <dcxaq> i tried to set key shortcut for fn+f1 in
xfce settings but nothing did anything
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840[04:27:22] <dcxaq> nothing happen*
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843[04:27:50] <somiaj> the key is not called fn+f1, the key is
called 'SLEEP' or something like that
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844[04:28:13] <somiaj> it is not a key combo, but a single key
(that is if your laptop sends a key binding to the os and has the os
do what it wants with the binding)
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845[04:28:15] <dcxaq> on xfce i add a program to run and i press
the key
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846[04:28:41] <somiaj> if your laptop is actually sending a non
key event to the os, i'm unusre what to do. But since xfce
opens a window, sounds like a key binding.
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848[04:29:29] <dcxaq> so how to fix it?
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849[04:29:38] <dcxaq> the thing with xsession didn't work
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854[04:31:55] <dcxaq> somiaj: help?
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855[04:32:04] <somiaj> dcxaq: can you put this file at
paste.debian.net (since I don't have a copy of it)
/etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml
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859[04:32:47] <dcxaq>
replaced-url
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864[04:37:14] <dcxaq> somiaj: any idea?
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870[04:40:44] <somiaj> nothing is sticking out. Anyways you may
have to google around until you fiugre out where this setting is
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873[04:40:53] <somiaj> you can also try other wm/de and see what
happens when you press the key with them.
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875[04:41:08] <somiaj> I wish you could just get the output from
xev in a blank session to see if it is a keybinding or not
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877[04:41:39] <dcxaq> xsession didnt work!!
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878[04:41:55] <somiaj> what didn't work?
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879[04:42:02] <dcxaq> .xsession file
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880[04:42:08] <dcxaq> it didnt popup a shell
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881[04:42:55] <somiaj> do you have xterm installed? maybe use
/usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
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882[04:43:03] <dcxaq> yes
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883[04:43:12] <dcxaq> the x thing is properly not work?
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885[04:46:23] <iflema> so in xfce power managment settings
dialog you cant just change the sleep keypress setting from ask to
sleep?
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886[04:46:51] <annadane> yeah, that was my impression as well...
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889[04:47:15] <dcxaq> then how will i add a key?
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890[04:47:27] <dcxaq> i mean how the computer will get lock?
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891[04:47:29] <iflema> dcxaq: what do you want IT to DO
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892[04:47:38] <dcxaq> to lock and sleep
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893[04:48:01] <iflema> power managment settings and change from
ask to sleep
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894[04:48:04] <iflema> it should lock
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895[04:48:11] <iflema> on sleep
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896[04:48:14] <dcxaq> it not
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898[04:48:18] <iflema> there must be a setting for that
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899[04:48:23] <dcxaq> where
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900[04:48:44] <iflema> i dont use that crap
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901[04:48:47] <annadane> applications menu - settings - power
management? from memory
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902[04:48:51] <annadane> i don't have xfce open right now
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904[04:49:02] <dcxaq> brb
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914[04:53:37] <dcxaq_> hi. i tried to also add in vim
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc but it didn't work..
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916[04:53:45] <dcxaq_> and also in .xsession and .xprofile
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918[04:53:58] <somiaj> !xession
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919[04:54:02] <somiaj> !xsession
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920[04:54:02] <dpkg> Debian uses ~/.xsession for startx(1) as
well as *most* Display Manager logins. See
replaced-url
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921[04:54:05] <annadane> it's probably not a good idea to
stick it in every single path you can find
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922[04:54:07] <juon> Hi
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925[04:54:26] <annadane> take those out before doing anything
else so you don't run into problems later
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926[04:54:31] <somiaj> dcxaq_: maybe just run 'startx --
:2', maybe lightdm doens't have a default session to read
it.
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927[04:54:44] <somiaj> .xsession should be all you need to
change.
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928[04:54:46] <dcxaq_> to run where
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929[04:54:48] <juon> I'm use Debian Testing, I want to use
the DDE Deepin Desktop Enviroement on Debian, it is possible ?
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930[04:55:12] <dcxaq_> what is startx -- :2 do?
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931[04:55:14] <somiaj> juon: I haven't heard of it, is it
even included in debian?
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933[04:55:25] <somiaj> dcxaq_: runs an xsession on a different
display
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936[04:56:02] <annadane> ,v deepin
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937[04:56:03] <judd> No package named 'deepin' was
found in amd64.
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938[04:56:16] <juon> somiaj, I dont undestand, I know that have
to the Ubuntu, but I dont see to Debian
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939[04:56:35] <juon> somiaj,
replaced-url
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940[04:56:36] <annadane> actually if it's a de deepin
probably isn't the name of it
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941[04:56:39] <annadane> one sec
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943[04:56:55] <somiaj> juon: if it isn't already packaged
for debian you'll have to compile/build it yourself. This is
possible.
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944[04:57:15] <annadane> yeah, so, apparently not in debian
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945[04:57:33] <juon> I'm dont be a developer, but I try to
make it...
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946[04:57:56] <juon> I add the source list the deepin on debian
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947[04:58:06] <juon> And thy to find the dde
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948[04:58:34] <annadane> well, if it's not in debian it
won't be anything you can add in your sources list
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949[04:59:03] <somiaj> juon: you will most likely have to build
it from source, in which case you should look into their
documentation on how to do this.
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951[04:59:31] <annadane> from the link you posted, it seems like
it's a ppa in ubuntu so you can probably check out
replaced-url
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955[05:00:28] <annadane> (do not add ubuntu ppa's in your
sources list, this creates a frankendebian)
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956[05:00:46] <juon> I thought that ubuntu packages served in
debian, it's complicated only if the derived distributions are
used from the packages of the parent distributions
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957[05:00:48] <iflema> lool
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958[05:00:56] <juon>
replaced-url
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960[05:01:37] <annadane> juon, mixing ubuntu and debian packages
will result in breakage no matter what
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962[05:01:45] <dcxaq> hi
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963[05:01:48] <annadane> (probably. not in all circumstances)
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964[05:01:58] <dcxaq> so i able to do that
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965[05:02:02] <annadane> good
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970[05:03:08] <dcxaq> keyrelease event, serial 29, synthetic,
... keysysm 0x1008ff2f, xF86sleep
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971[05:03:10] <juon> I think I already broke my system, if I
remove the lines from the source list and update again, can I go
back to what it was?
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972[05:03:20] <juon> annadane,
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976[05:03:54] <annadane> if you remove packages you have
installed from ubuntu, probably. you may want to post your sources
list to paste.debian.net so we can look at it anyway
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981[05:04:08] <dcxaq> somiaj: help?
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982[05:04:11] <annadane> for future reference, testing questions
go in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net but this is probably almost
resolved anyway
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994[05:08:29] <juon> annadane,
replaced-url
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996[05:09:31] <annadane> hm, well, i don't see anything
from ubuntu there, unless you already removed it
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997[05:09:39] <annadane> but i guess that's fine
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998[05:10:14] <annadane> that being said
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999[05:10:17] <annadane> !debian multimedia
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1000[05:10:17] <dpkg> We recommend against using
deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause
many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because
the they are poor in quality or for legal reasons. See
replaced-url
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1005[05:11:20] <annadane> and i'm not sure about the deepin
entry, i don't know enough to comment whether or not
that's a problem
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1008[05:13:39] <somiaj> deepin is its own os, you don't want
to mix. And now that I look at it, building the desktop may not be
an easy task in deepin. Why not just use deepin?
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1010[05:14:19] <juon> I want the Debian Kernel, I want only the
Aparence of Deepin
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1011[05:14:37] <iflema> run arch on a debian kernel
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1013[05:15:25] <iflema> run deepin on a debian
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1014[05:15:30] <iflema> run deepin
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1018[05:16:26] <enerluna> the second usb that i will be using for
the encryption
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1019[05:16:39] <enerluna> should be the one choose for grub
installation right
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1021[05:16:51] <annadane> juon, if you want the appearence of
deepin you most probably can customize it to look like it on just
about any desktop environment/window manager
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1023[05:17:05] <iflema> annadane: no
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1024[05:17:13] <iflema> not really
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1025[05:17:26] <annadane> *shrug*
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1026[05:17:27] <iflema> deepin is odd
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1027[05:17:47] <juon> annadane, I want only it,replaced-url
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1028[05:17:54] <juon>
replaced-url
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1031[05:18:20] <iflema> it probably runs better on Arch
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1032[05:18:21] <annadane> oh, whoops
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1033[05:18:27] <annadane> *that*'s the entry, not ubuntu
stuff
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1035[05:18:52] <annadane> so, right, take out the deepin entry
and the debian multimedia stuff and try building it from source
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1036[05:18:55] <juon> iflema, In arch linux the guys want to make
it,
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1041[05:19:16] <juon> iflema, but I dont know use Arch Linux ..
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1042[05:19:24] <annadane> though that being said it's maybe
a bit much to entirely remove multimedia
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1045[05:19:40] <annadane> you should at least not mix with deepin
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1046[05:19:59] <juon> Yes
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1047[05:20:32] <annadane> my guess as i said before is you may be
able to
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1050[05:21:08] <iflema> i suppose you could hack a
deepin'ish fing from some other DE but why
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1052[05:21:40] <annadane> well, looks a bit similar to xfce
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1055[05:22:10] <annadane> but anyway i know literally nothing
about it
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1057[05:22:33] <iflema> you should spin up deepin... i say give
it a look
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1062[05:22:58] <iflema> its something
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1063[05:23:00] <enerluna> oke annadane and fuzzbuzz its not
installing the final software for debian
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1064[05:23:20] <enerluna> if its finished i will remove all usb
and hope it will restart in to debian
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1066[05:23:33] <annadane> enerluna, which final software?
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1068[05:24:01] <enerluna> well just installing debian lol
"select and install software"
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1070[05:24:06] <iflema> I might have a look its been a few
years...
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1071[05:24:07] <annadane> it's not working?
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1073[05:24:26] <enerluna> 35 % yet
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1074[05:24:35] <annadane> ah, okay, so it's still going
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1075[05:24:44] <annadane> that step does often take a while
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1076[05:24:59] <enerluna> yea i rlly wanna sleep tho xD
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1079[05:26:39] <annadane> ugh, sorry for the confusion with the
whole deepin thing. i should not be giving technical support past 11
PM
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1082[05:28:01] <annadane> juon, in all honesty with all those
third party repositories you probably have a borked system anyway
but that's kind of a more subtle issue
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1085[05:28:56] <juon> All right people, thank you very much,
I'll try to do this from the PPA.
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1086[05:28:59] <juon> annadane,
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1087[05:29:00] <annadane> it's Probably Fine(TM)
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1089[05:29:14] <annadane> juon, well, okay, but keep in mind what
i said about PPAs
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1090[05:29:21] <annadane> !don't break debian
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1091[05:29:21] <dpkg> methinks dont break debian is
replaced-url
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1094[05:30:01] <juon> annadane, Thank you
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1096[05:32:03] <annadane> juon, specifically look at
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1099[05:32:29] <juon> I'm reading
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1101[05:34:23] <annadane> as a sidenote, deepin should not be
hard to build from source. people build de's from source all
the time. just don't do it as root
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1102[05:34:53] <annadane> (which honestly not everyone even
agrees with)
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1105[05:36:38] <juon> ok
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1111[05:38:23] <iflema> i know why oldmate doenst use deepin...
it takes 2 years to download
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1185[06:36:17] <dtux> which partitions should be bootable?
biosgrub or /boot?
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1186[06:36:33] <dtux> (this is the scheme im configuring fwiw:
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1238[07:16:00] <mattsah> Anyone here use EC2? I'm trying to
upgrade our instance-store paravirtual AMI to stretch and have
consistently been unable to boot the resulting AMI with pv-grub
producing Error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure. I've
completely run out of ideas at this point. If I boot the existing
AMI which is still on Jessie with a mix of some unstable stuff, I
can create an AMI that works fine so long as I
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1239[07:16:06] <mattsah> don't do the upgrade. Anyone know
what might have changed?
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1242[07:17:46] <ChmEarl> mattsah, grep '64bit'
/etc/mke2fs.conf <-- on stretch
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1246[07:18:56] <mattsah> It's on for ext4
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1248[07:19:42] <mattsah> but it also appears on on the old Jessie
AMI
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1249[07:20:02] <ChmEarl> mattsah, if your dom0 does not support
that flag, but your new domU does, then you can have conflict
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1251[07:20:09] <mattsah> I did a feature comparison between the
image created for stretch and the fs on a booted AMI and didn't
see any differences
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1257[07:22:39] <mattsah> ChmEarl: I assume it's supported on
ec2 in the zone, cause the existing filesystems seem to have it set
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1258[07:23:12] <ChmEarl> mattsah, in stretch do: mkfs.ext4 -L
DEB9 -O^64bit <dev>
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1259[07:23:35] <ChmEarl> turn off that feature or pv-grub/pygrub
won't work
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1261[07:24:25] <ChmEarl> if you create the domU from scratch, I
see its an upgrade
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1263[07:25:04] <mattsah> if I remove it from the conf default
mkfs.ext4 will presumably not set it?
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1266[07:25:58] <ChmEarl> mattsah, yes, that disable it too
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1278[07:30:53] <mattsah> OK, thing is though, I'm not seeing
that flag on the image... ec2-bundle-vol uses the flags from the
existing root FS, which does not include 64bit flag
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1279[07:31:55] <mattsah> Here's the tune2fs -l output on the
last image I tried (which produced that error):
replaced-url
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1280[07:32:53] <ChmEarl> mattsah, its clear of that flag, its not
the issue. But be ware, any ext4 filesystem made with Stretch will
turn it on
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1281[07:34:21] <mattsah> ChmEarl: understood, we create the AMIs
and images through ec2-bundle-vol -- which is a ruby script, looking
at the requisite part of that, it seems to set all flags manually
and only copies what the existing root device has, so if it's
run on an existing booted AMI, the flags should match that (which
they do)
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1282[07:35:20] <mattsah> That is, all those flags in that paste
match the flags if I run tune2fs -l on a live instance with the last
working AMI on which that image was created.
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1283[07:35:49] <mattsah> Do you know if it's possible if
pv-grub would produce that error if there was something off with the
initrd?
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1293[07:40:36] <ChmEarl> mattsah, it never finds the initrd
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1302[07:48:17] <hiya> Guys, I downloaded KDE ISO from
replaced-url
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1303[07:48:44] <hiya> it is 2.4GB ISO, how do I write it to a USB
stick I got for boot and install
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1309[07:52:38] <pugspaw> dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdX
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1311[07:53:34] <themill> or better, cp
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1313[07:53:49] <hiya> cp or dd?
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1314[07:54:09] <hiya> say it finalllyy
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1315[07:54:28] <hiya> my hp 16G USB is waiting
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1316[07:54:29] <toruvinn> hiya, cp file.iso /dev/sdX (directly to
the device) works too, is what they mean
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1317[07:54:48] <toruvinn> hiya, i personally use dd though (with
some large bs ;-P)
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1318[07:54:52] <themill> If only there was a FAQ with such
things...
replaced-url
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1319[07:54:52] <hiya> it has FreeDOS right now
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1321[07:55:00] <toruvinn> themill, haha
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1322[07:55:07] <hiya> I would use dd
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1324[07:55:12] * themill would not
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1325[07:55:18] <hiya> Ok I would use cp
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1326[07:55:21] <toruvinn> themill, "if only there was a FAQ,
such as this: (...)..." ;-)
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1327[07:55:22] <hiya> :D
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1328[07:55:47] <toruvinn> hiya, make sure not to confuse the
device name, btw.
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1329[07:55:55] <toruvinn> you may overwrite something that is not
your flash drive...
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1330[07:56:17] <toruvinn> it's a pretty scayr moment when
you try to boot from your new flashdrive just to find out it wasnt
overwritten...
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1331[07:57:00] <hiya> toruvinn: with Gnome Disks it was awesome,
which is not the case with KDE
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1332[07:57:11] <hiya> But I like KDE better to be frank with you
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1333[07:58:09] <hiya> Should I use disk or partion name
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1334[07:58:13] <toruvinn> i'm a fluxbox-0.1.14 guy so... ;-)
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1336[07:58:25] <hiya> cp .iso /dev/sdb or sdb1
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1337[07:58:27] <toruvinn> hiya, copy it to the flashdrive, not a
partition.
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1338[07:58:34] <toruvinn> hiya, sdb, overwrite the whole device.
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1339[07:58:35] <hiya> :D
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1341[07:58:44] <hiya> Yes this is what I want
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1342[07:58:54] <hiya> Rewrite the whole USB
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1343[07:59:02] <n4n0`> you better not
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1344[07:59:25] <n4n0`> everyone knows nano is somewhat the
friendliest editor in the world
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1348[08:00:14] <hiya> Guys, I have 9.1.0 version, not 9.2.0, is
it fine?
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1350[08:00:41] <hiya> or should I download latest and flash?
Internet is very slow here though, might take a few hours
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1351[08:01:26] <somiaj> once you install 9.1 you can upgrade to
9.2. The main difference is security patches and some bug fixes
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1352[08:02:01] <toruvinn> hiya, i wouldnt bother with
redownloading unless you want to install that on 1048576 different
boxes later. it's a matter of apt-get update && apt-get
dist-upgrade ;-)
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1355[08:02:27] <hiya> hmm
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1357[08:03:13] <hiya> wow it is copying
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1359[08:04:48] <annadane> themill, is there an objective reason
to use cp over dd or just preference?
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1361[08:05:25] <somiaj> annadane: cp has better defaults.
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1362[08:05:52] <themill> and a less insane command line
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1388[08:20:03] <abff> I am stuck trying to get the
bumblebee-nvidia daemon working. I can currently get `optirun
glxgears` to run but no x window is created and I don't see a
thing
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1389[08:20:29] <waveprop> i think tmux is using unicode box draw
characters instead of |
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1390[08:20:39] <waveprop> to separate panes
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1391[08:20:47] <waveprop> thats bad and wrong
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1392[08:21:03] <abff> I think your font is wrong
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1394[08:21:14] <abff> b'dong you might say
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1395[08:21:16] <waveprop> i think my font is pretty
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1396[08:21:19] <waveprop> lol
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1397[08:21:49] <waveprop> unicrode
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1423[08:38:02] <dtux> can/should i raid the biosgrub partition?
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1425[08:38:26] <eoli4n> dtux: soft raid ?
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1426[08:38:40] <dtux> eoli4n: yes
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1427[08:38:42] <eoli4n> it's a non question
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1430[08:38:59] <eoli4n> if hard raid, yes you can, system doesnt
see it
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1431[08:39:10] <eoli4n> if soft, no you cant, because system isnt
launched yet
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1433[08:39:21] <dtux> i see, thank you
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1434[08:40:23] <colo-work> grub does support all linux md raid
modes for /boot. even 5, 6, and 10.
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1435[08:40:34] <colo-work> the problem these days is the EFI
system partition
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1436[08:40:48] <colo-work> which must be fat32, and can't be
easily set up as RAID (except with firmware support)
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1437[08:41:12] <jelly-home> who knows, it might work with md
format 1.0 or 0.9
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1438[08:41:45] <colo-work> I never tried
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1439[08:41:48] <dtux> i dont think the machine im installing on
supports EFI (idk how to check though)
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1442[08:42:08] <eoli4n> colo-work: how can grub support soft
raid, if initramfs isn't initialized yet ?
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1443[08:42:30] <jelly-home> eoli4n: just like ext3, it has its
own drivers.
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1444[08:42:40] <colo-work> eoli4n, it can read the
array/component device metadata and construct a read-onlyview of the
array by itself
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1445[08:42:45] <colo-work> +space
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1446[08:43:01] <eoli4n> mh ok
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1449[08:43:13] <jelly-home> dtux: so you're talking about
/boot partition then?
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1450[08:43:34] <jelly-home> that is, partition that will house
the /boot linux filesystem?
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1452[08:43:43] <dtux> jelly-home:
replaced-url
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1453[08:43:50] <dtux> this is what i have so far
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1455[08:44:22] <dtux> er what im going for... im looking at
whether i need to set a bootable flag somewhere or not
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1458[08:44:32] <Mirabellette> Hello everyone, I have a problem
with apache2 httpd on debian. I create a dns entry to toto.xxx.com,
I have a titi.xxx.com virtual host, problem, when i choose to go to
toto.xxx.com, with have no virtual host, I am redirected to
titi.xxx.com. I wouldn't have a virtual host to toto.xxx.com
but got a 403, how can I do that ? I thought about creating a
virtual host zzz.xxx.com to catch the call of toto.xxx.com but it
doesn't work.
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1460[08:45:50] <jelly-home> dtux: I'm not familiar with gpt
boot disks, what's the biosgrub partition used for?
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1463[08:46:36] <donut_> Mirabellette: you have to create a
default website that catches all
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1464[08:46:49] <donut_> then add on top of that extra
virtualhosts for specific sites
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1466[08:47:00] <dtux> jelly-home: when booting with bios, i think
the gpt spec doesnt let grub stash core.img in the space after the
partition table, so you have to give it its own partition
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1467[08:47:16] <dtux>
replaced-url
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1468[08:47:23] <donut_> now it seems you have the default website
serving titi.xxx.com and thus everything goes there
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1471[08:47:47] <Mirabellette> I understand the principle but how
do i do that ^^
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1472[08:48:00] <Mirabellette> @donut
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1474[08:49:07] <donut_> move titi.xxx to a new virtualhost
sites-available/enabled conf file and replace the default site with
something else.
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1476[08:50:05] <jelly-home> dtux: in that case, do not make it md
raid; just install grub to both disks, that includes stage 1.5
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1481[08:54:22] <jelly-home> Mirabellette: create a new config
file in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ for your actual virtualhost
and put its config there, then a2ensite it. Read: zless
/usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz
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1484[08:55:10] <jelly-home> Mirabellette: you can use the default
virtualhost as a fallback for everything else, or create a separate
new virtualhost with its own config to be used as a fallback
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1485[08:55:44] <Mirabellette> My default virtual host is like
that but it doesn't work
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1486[08:55:45] <Mirabellette> <VirtualHost _default_:80>
DocumentRoot "/replaced-url
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1487[08:55:46] <jelly-home> Mirabellette: whichever comes first
in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ gets used as default/fallback
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1490[08:56:12] <dtux> jelly-home: ok, ty... know anything about
the bootable flag?
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1491[08:56:43] <jelly-home> Mirabellette: instead of _default_,
use an IP address or * in the VirtualHost definition
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1493[08:57:20] <jelly-home> use _default_ only for that site
that, well, you want to be default (fallback when a VirtualHost
hostname is not explicitely defined)
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1494[08:57:37] <jelly-home> dtux: is that needed at all these
days?
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1495[08:57:55] <dtux> jelly-home: that's basically my
question :p
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1496[08:58:00] <jelly-home> again, no idea about bootable gpt
disks
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1497[08:58:30] <jelly-home> don't use it as see if things
work
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1498[08:58:35] <jelly-home> and* see
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1501[08:58:46] <Mirabellette> I agree but when I do that, it
catch all my virtualhost to the ip address
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1504[08:59:41] <Mirabellette> To I have to do something like
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1505[08:59:50] <Mirabellette> _default_192.168.1.1:80
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1511[09:01:55] <jelly-home> Mirabellette: when you do what,
precisely? Pastebin your "apachectl -S" output
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1512[09:02:03] <jelly-home> !paste
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1513[09:02:03] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
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1515[09:02:35] <Mirabelle> test
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1519[09:03:57] <jelly-home> Mirabelle: when you do what,
precisely? Pastebin your "apachectl -S" output
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1521[09:04:35] <Mirabellette>
replaced-url
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1539[09:06:46] <Mirabellette> I don't know how to get a
default server for a specific ip
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1541[09:06:57] <Mirabellette> because *:80 and *:443 didn't
work
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1551[09:09:52] <jelly-home> Mirabellette: there's no such
thing as a default server for a specific ip
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1553[09:09:57] <jelly-home> far as I know
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1555[09:10:04] <Mirabellette> I can I do that ? :(
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1556[09:10:12] <jelly-home> you get one default server
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1559[09:10:31] <jelly-home> and that one catches any and all
unknown Host: s
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1561[09:10:41] <Mirabellette> this doesn't work on my
apache2 :(
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1565[09:11:48] <Mirabellette> I have a default server for
192.168.1.1:80 different than with *:80
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1569[09:12:06] <Mirabellette> then it called the default server
form the 192.168.1.1 unstead of this with *:80
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1573[09:12:57] <jelly-home> Mirabellette: your apachectl -S
doesn't show anything bound specifically to 192.168.1.1
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1576[09:13:59] <Mirabellette> Because I add a virtualhost with
192.168.1.1 which catch everything
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1578[09:14:03] <Mirabellette> without it, i have this pastebin
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1580[09:14:39] <Mirabellette>
replaced-url
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1581[09:14:50] <jelly-home> Mirabellette: how do you add it?
Which ServerName do you put in? How does apachectl -S look then?
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1583[09:16:11] <Mirabellette> I created this virtualhost
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1584[09:16:11] <Mirabellette>
replaced-url
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1585[09:16:20] <Mirabellette> with no serverName
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1586[09:16:35] <jelly-home> why no ServerName?
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1588[09:17:33] <Mirabelle> Because I want it catch everything
else
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1589[09:17:43] <Mirabelle> everything instead titi.xxx.com
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1596[09:19:54] <Mirabelle> I try to put it at the end
zzz.default.conf
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1598[09:20:17] <jelly-home> do you use a ServerName in _any_ of
your VirtualHosts?
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1599[09:20:40] <Mirabelle> I do
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1600[09:21:02] <Mirabelle> especially in the virtual host
consider as default server
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1601[09:21:26] <Mirabelle> which is always the first one
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1603[09:21:41] <jelly-home> okay, which hosts do you want to be
accessible via 192.168.1.1
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1605[09:22:02] <Mirabelle> the default virtual host
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1606[09:22:13] <Mirabelle> and also xyz.xxx.com
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1608[09:22:33] <Mirabelle> I just want that titi.xxx.com is ok
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1609[09:22:51] <jelly-home> so make a <VirtualHost
192.168.1.1:80> with a ServerName xyz.xxx.com
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1611[09:23:15] <Mirabelle> xyz is an example, I want to be able
to catch all others than titi.xxx.com
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1612[09:23:59] <jelly-home> so make a <VirtualHost
192.168.1.1:80> with a explicit ServerName titi.xxx.com
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1613[09:24:05] <Mirabelle> I did
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1614[09:24:26] <Mirabelle> but when I try toto.xxx.com, it is
titi.xxx.com which respond
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1615[09:24:42] <Mirabelle> even if it didn't have this
serverName
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1618[09:25:19] <jelly-home> Mirabelle: which IP does this
toto.xxx.com resolve to?
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1619[09:25:40] <Mirabelle> the same on that titi.xxx.com :
192.168.1.1:80
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1620[09:25:41] <jelly-home> can you use your actual domain?
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1621[09:26:00] <Mirabelle> I prefer to keep it for myself sorry
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1622[09:26:01] <jelly-home> I've accidentally opened a porn
site at least once.
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1623[09:26:11] <jelly-home> use example.org then
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1624[09:26:20] <Mirabelle> okaysorry ^^
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1625[09:26:27] <Mirabelle> toto.example.org
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1626[09:26:32] <Mirabelle> titi.example.org
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1628[09:26:57] <jelly-home> Mirabelle: ls -ld
/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
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1629[09:26:59] <jelly-home> sorry,
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1630[09:27:04] <jelly-home> Mirabelle: ls -l
/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
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1638[09:28:56] <Mirabelle>
replaced-url
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1640[09:29:11] <Mirabelle> I removed the others which are not
usefull
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1641[09:29:13] <Mirabelle> useful
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1642[09:29:27] <jelly-home> please don't omit stuff
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1643[09:30:42] <Mirabelle> It is ok
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1644[09:31:37] <jelly-home> maybe it's ok but I'm not
willing to spend further time trying to figure out an issue with
incomplete and tampered info
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1648[09:32:33] <jelly-home> Mirabelle: if noone else answers in
here, try #httpd channel
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1649[09:32:57] <likcoras> Where can I read documentation (ie.
/usr/share/doc/...) without having to install the package locally?
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1652[09:33:39] <Mirabelle> I understand
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1657[09:35:25] <Mirabelle> Thank you very much for you help
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1658[09:35:36] <Mirabelle> sorry to not do say more
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1695[09:53:09] <SUCK_MY_BALLS> SUCK MY BALLS
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1699[09:54:10] <SUCK_MY_BALLS> SUCK MY MASSIVE MANLY BALLS,
BITCHES!
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1701[09:54:59] <SwedeMike> SUCK_MY_BALLS: present them.
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1703[09:55:13] <SUCK_MY_BALLS> SwedeMike:
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1739[10:17:22] <luna_> Updating Debian at work today too 9.2
going fine :)
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1740[10:18:15] * dtux too
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1743[10:18:50] <nix64bit> t0
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1776[10:39:28] <DK2> any ideas for a HA-Storage?
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1777[10:40:29] <FinalX> I had a look at glusterfs, but the
performance was non-existent.. though that might've been my
fault
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1779[10:41:12] <DK2> is HAST still being used?
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1782[10:42:43] <FinalX> isn't that a BSD-thing?
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1786[10:44:57] <lefreut> FinalX: what kind of volume did you use?
hot tier?
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1788[10:45:29] <lefreut> FinalX: Also gluster native client or
cifs/nfs?
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1789[10:45:36] <FinalX> I honestly don't remember, been
quite a while ago and only tried it for a short while. Native
client.
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1793[10:47:16] <DK2> yes HAST is freebsd i think
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1794[10:48:02] <lefreut> FinalX: ok :) i'll start POCing,
maybe you should have used some sort of stripping to be perf wise
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1797[10:49:05] <FinalX> lefreut: let me know if you find out
anything, I might give it another try. maybe it had to do with the
encryption layer I tried to use, and the CPU on my main server not
having AES-NI support back then. Now it does.
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1799[10:49:30] <FinalX> my other servers are in different data
centers, so I want the communication/datastreams encrypted
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1800[10:49:45] <DK2> maybe heartbeat / drbd is an option
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1803[10:50:33] <DK2> but i need a isci solutio tho
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1806[10:51:17] <lefreut> DK2: for block solution you could have a
look at ceph, but for file level it's still pretty beta
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1807[10:53:05] <lefreut> DK2: and it start beeing interesting
with several nodes since you would have several "control
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1817[11:02:20] <waveprop> 'localectl set-locale
LANG=en_US' for those reading logs who have the same problem
with a mahjong tile in tmux
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1836[11:09:01] <k0ala> ay.
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1847[11:11:39] <ghormoon> hi, is gnupg-agent for X also, or I
need some other package? I'm trying to debug why enigmail
doesn't work and in commandline it asks me for password in some
curses-like interface, maybe that is the reason encryption fails in
enigmail?
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1869[11:26:51] <veek> ghormoon, gnupg-agent will manage your
private/public keys
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1870[11:27:24] <veek> and possibly feed that to enigmail -
it's a wrapper around your keys/keyfile
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1875[11:28:00] <veek> you need the public key of the sender to
decrypt/verify and read so..
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1877[11:28:50] <veek> the passwd in curses is just something for
the keyfile maybe
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1880[11:29:15] <veek> it's not the actual key that is being
used to read some particular mail
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1884[11:30:14] <ghormoon> veek: the point is, what application
spits out the window asking for password when sending mail?
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1887[11:31:35] <ghormoon> I've copied seamonkey profile and
.gnupg folder from old laptop and trying to make it alive. alsi
tried exporting and importing the key, it always asks in curses
interface, not in X window, so I assume enigmail has no wya to show
me curses window?
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1888[11:32:05] <ghormoon> the command from enigmail debug log
works, but I have to remove the <brackets> around email,
otherwise it fails too
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1893[11:34:13] <veek> ghormoon, rereading what i said and
understanding what i'm trying to convey, would be a good idea..
i've nver used gnupg, or enigmail - try their mailinglist
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1896[11:35:08] <ghormoon> well, before, it was asking for the
password by some X-window, now it's in curses, so I'm
propably missing some package
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1897[11:35:48] <ghormoon> I mean the situation when you open
encrypted mail/try to sign a mail so you need to open you privatekey
that has password protection
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1898[11:36:00] <veek> yes
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1900[11:37:23] <BCMM> ghormoon: does it use pinentry?
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be
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pinentry-curses and you used to use something like pinentry-qt4 or
pinentry-gnome3
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1907[11:38:44] <veek>
replaced-url
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1910[11:39:20] <ghormoon> i have the gnome3 one installed even,
but it obviulsky is not default
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1912[11:40:49] <avian> Hi. I dual boot windows and stretch. How
do I mount the windows "Basic data partition"?
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1913[11:41:01] <avian> mount -t ntfs says "NTFS signature is
missing."
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1914[11:41:12] <avian> this used to work on my old computer
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1917[11:42:50] <BCMM> avian: are you sure you're running
mount on the correct device?
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1919[11:43:23] <ghormoon> hm, the link is correct. not sure how
to test it out though, all of them only ask something in console, I
most propably need to tell the pinentry to read a password to throw
the window?
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1921[11:43:52] <avian> BCMM, I'm using /dev/nvme0n1p3, which
fdisk and gdisk list as "Basic data partition". Size is
also what I expect.
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1923[11:44:06] <BCMM> avian: what does file -s /dev/nvme0n1p3
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1924[11:44:42] <veek> ghormoon, you are looking to locate the
library that creates the curses dialog? that's pinentry's
job
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1927[11:45:23] <avian> BCMM,
replaced-url
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1930[11:45:51] <avian> BCMM, afaik it's normal for BDP to
contain another dummy partition table?
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1931[11:46:19] <avian> BCMM, the disk is using GPT otherwise
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not really a dos/mbr boot sector will indeed come up like that first
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1935[11:48:09] <BCMM> and same partition works fine in windows,
right? it's not just corrupt?
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1938[11:48:23] <avian> BCMM, yes. windows boots ok.
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1941[11:48:51] <avian> BCMM, I also disabled fast boot
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1943[11:49:16] <BCMM> in eufi settings, or in windows?
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1944[11:49:26] <avian> in windows
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1945[11:49:37] <BCMM> hmm, i'm out of ideas here, sorry
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1955[11:51:34] <ghormoon> heh, the gnome3 also asked in curses.
qt works in X
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1968[11:58:44] <ghormoon> ok, set it to default to qt and now
everything works
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1969[11:58:45] <ghormoon> thanks guys :)
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2001[12:17:41] <dionysus69> system is fully frozen while large
file is being copied through usb 3.0
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2003[12:17:49] <dionysus69> this is the second pc that I have
noticed this happens
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2005[12:18:16] <dionysus69> is there way to not to let system
commit suicide on disk io?
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2006[12:18:43] <dionysus69> takes me 30 minutes to copy 200gb
file and for 30 minutes system is unusable
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2012[12:20:45] <avian> dionysus69, try "ionice -c 3 cp
..."
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2013[12:21:02] <dionysus69> and what does it do?
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2015[12:21:27] <avian> if you run a command through ionice you
can set IO priority
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2017[12:21:49] <avian> -c 3 should set it to lowest priority
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2018[12:22:12] <avian> so that other things on the system will be
more responsive
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2019[12:22:27] <avian> it's not perfect in my experience,
but it can help.
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2021[12:24:54] <darxmurf> ,v libpng12-0
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2022[12:24:55] <judd> Package: libpng12-0 on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.2.49-1+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 1.2.49-1+deb7u2; jessie-security:
1.2.50-2+deb8u2; jessie: 1.2.50-2+deb8u3
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2027[12:25:24] <darxmurf> hmmm why is it still visible in
apt-cache on one of my stretch machine?
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2030[12:26:02] <dionysus69> avian: ok thanks allot, will consider
for future :)
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2044[12:30:51] <towo^work> darxmurf, because it is only shown in
/var/lib/dpkg/status?
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2046[12:31:49] <towo^work> because the system was upgraded from
jessie?
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2053[12:38:51] <darxmurf> yep all my system were upgraded from
jessie
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2054[12:39:04] <darxmurf> hum but probably the libpng12 was not
installed on all of them
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2055[12:39:35] <darxmurf> but even upgraded from jessie, it
should have remove the lib in question no ?
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2057[12:43:06] <themill> darxmurf: no, that's why the
release notes tell you to decruft
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2061[12:43:39] <darxmurf> okay
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2062[12:43:40] <darxmurf> thanks :-)
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2077[12:53:11] <la-o-wai> Cabanossi: sup
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2079[12:55:08] <la-o-wai> what is medium graphic card nowadays
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2087[12:57:30] <anexit_> Anyone ever get racoon to work properly?
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2088[12:57:46] <la-o-wai> what's that
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2091[12:59:12] <jolt> anexit_: Yes? What do you want to do?
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2093[12:59:50] <anexit_> jolt: we have roughly 100 locations we
would like to ESP with our datacenter. Let me show you the config,
stand by
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2095[13:00:05] <darxmurf> it's a packages which eats other
packages, but it washes them before
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2096[13:00:33] <la-o-wai> thanks
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2098[13:00:52] <gpunk> ,v racoon
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2099[13:00:53] <judd> Package: racoon on amd64 -- wheezy:
1:0.8.0-14+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 1:0.8.0-14+deb7u3; jessie:
1:0.8.2+20140711-2+deb8u1; jessie-security:
1:0.8.2+20140711-2+deb8u1; stretch: 1:0.8.2+20140711-8+deb9u1;
buster: 1:0.8.2+20140711-10; sid: 1:0.8.2+20140711-10
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2102[13:01:00] <jolt> darxmurf: :D
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2103[13:01:11] <jolt> la-o-wai: vpn solution
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2107[13:01:32] <la-o-wai> jolt: yes i want it
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replaced-url
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2110[13:03:12] <Seenox> Hello everyone. What would be the best
way to list all installed packages (not dependencies) on Debian?
Something like packetname - version.
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2112[13:03:31] <anexit_> Everything works great but after a few
hours the connections die between three locations. Nothing dumps to
the log file and we have full debug2 enabled
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2113[13:03:41] <anexit_> I think it's something to do with
the setkey.conf
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2114[13:04:02] <jolt> Seenox: dpkg -l
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2115[13:04:41] <Seenox> jolt: I want to use the information later
and save them as a fact in Puppet.
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2117[13:04:44] <la-o-wai> dpkg: openbox
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2118[13:04:44] <dpkg> Openbox is an X window manager originally
based on <Blackbox> 0.65.0, then rewritten in C (no code based
on Blackbox since v3.0).
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2119[13:04:52] <la-o-wai> eh
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2128[13:07:11] <jolt> anexit_: can you describe whats not
working? The config looks ok from a quick glance
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2129[13:07:11] <la-o-wai> what is minimum memory to run debian
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2134[13:08:52] <anexit_> jolt: So after about seven hours the
locations connecting to our datacenter die and never re-establish
connection. When looking at the log files for these locations and
the data center everything looks okay. Nothing to report in phs1 and
phs2, if I flush the setkey database and setkey -f it comes right
back online. It shouldn't do this.
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2135[13:09:03] <jolt> la-o-wai: No idea, but the original
raspberry felt sluggish with 256M
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2140[13:09:26] <jolt> anexit_: Sounds like the same problem I had
with macosx and rekey
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2143[13:10:32] <anexit_> we have several openbsd routers that
work perfectly fine
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2144[13:10:49] <anexit_> I don't know, been several weeks of
head smashing
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2145[13:10:52] <jolt> anexit_: But I don't have any pointers
on that unfortunately. Crazy hard to troubleshoot when it works and
just stops without anything changed
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2146[13:11:33] <anexit_> That's where we're at..
nothing to go from really
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2147[13:12:25] <jolt> anexit_: enable debug logging everywhere
and try to capture it with tcpdump when it happens to figure out if
its spd or racoon maybe
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2148[13:12:42] <anexit_> Strongswan might be an option we're
looking into
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2151[13:13:04] <jolt> anexit_: good idea, it has more options
regarding troubleshooting and an active community
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2152[13:13:14] <jolt> More active than racoon anyway
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2154[13:13:23] <jolt> anexit_: I found it very hard to
troubleshoot as well
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2156[13:13:27] <anexit_> Does racoon even have an irc channel?
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2157[13:13:38] <anexit_> kame?
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2158[13:13:47] <quenode> Does Stretch support overlayFS2 ?
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2198[13:30:31] <afernandez_> Hello: how do I fix this please?
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2200[13:30:38] <afernandez_> Thank you
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2208[13:32:32] <darxmurf> afernandez_: apt-get update &&
apt-get install -f
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2209[13:32:48] <darxmurf> by the way, which version of debian are
you running ?
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2211[13:33:06] <bezaban> afernandez_: don't use puppetlabs
repository and this would be something for kanotix so solve, they
might be the ones that have enabled this repo
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2212[13:33:38] <darxmurf> and do you have the puppet labs repo
installed ?
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2213[13:34:08] <afernandez_> I think I messed up with the repo
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2214[13:34:13] <bezaban> that is not a package from the debian
distribution, so as far as dependencies goes it's not for
debian to solve
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2215[13:34:28] <afernandez_> OK thank you guys.
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2216[13:35:00] <bezaban> yeah.. supporting every package from
every add-on repository isn't going to work, so debian packages
their own. If you have to pull in something non-standard you're
basically on your own :/
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2240[13:46:53] <sine0> ok so... noob issue. about a year ago I
setup a script that sends mail from random string, I was just
testing out python or something. anyway Im still getting these
mails, yet for the life of me on my server Its not in the cron or
crontab or anacron. how on earth can i find it....
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2241[13:47:35] <sine0> I have a vague recollection about setting
up a daemon or something.. but i might be wrong
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2242[13:48:21] <petn-randall> sine0: The difference between work
and fooling around is that in the former you document things. :)
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2243[13:48:30] <bezaban> sine0: checked user crons?
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2246[13:49:13] <petn-randall> sine0: The mail logs might give you
a hint how it got sent to your mail server.
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2250[13:50:56] <babamelone> Hi. I recently upgraded from jessie
to stretch and now sound output in mplayer doesn't work
anymore.
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2251[13:51:02] <acagastya> When I connect my iPod to laptop using
bluetooth, it would bot play music.
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2253[13:51:16] <acagastya> It used to, in elementary OS.
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2254[13:51:31] <babamelone> whilst other applications still do
outpout sound
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2255[13:51:32] <acagastya> What could be the reason for it not
working in Jessie?
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2256[13:51:37] <la-o-wai> what is element os
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2257[13:51:44] <petn-randall> !elementary os
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2258[13:51:44] <dpkg> elementary OS is a Linux distribution based
on <Ubuntu>. It is not supported in #debian; ask me about
<based on debian>.
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2260[13:52:01] <petn-randall> acagastya: Any reason you're
not using stretch?
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2261[13:52:07] <acagastya> I tried in Stretch too, but
didn't work.
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2264[13:53:05] <babamelone> mplayer doesn't play any sound
anymore independantly from what output system I use, i.e. ALSA or
Pulse.
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2265[13:53:37] <la-o-wai> babamelone is using ubuntu lol
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2270[13:54:02] <babamelone> la-o-wai No I don't
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2274[13:55:06] <la-o-wai> babamelone: did you try another video?
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2277[13:56:09] <babamelone> I tried different files in different
formats, but no video, no.
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2278[13:56:15] <acagastya> petn-randall
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2279[13:56:16] <acagastya> petn-randall
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2280[13:56:16] <acagastya> petn-randall: could it be because of
proprietary drivers?
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2282[13:56:43] <acagastya> Dran it, KiwiIRC is so not user
friendly.
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2285[13:57:27] <babamelone> la-o-wai even vorbis files don't
work.
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2287[13:57:56] <babamelone> It's definitely unmuted and
sound volume set to 100 %
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2303[14:02:16] <la-o-wai> google it,
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2326[14:12:51] <petn-randall> acagastya: You have a better chance
to get it to work in stretch, as it is more recent.
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2328[14:13:22] <acagastya> Currently trying on Stretch.
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2329[14:14:41] <petn-randall> acagastya: So you're
connecting your PC and your iPod via bluetooth, and you want to play
music from your ipod on your PC?
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2331[14:15:32] <acagastya> From iPod.
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2335[14:16:21] <petn-randall> acagastya: Do you get any errors
when you try it?
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2336[14:16:45] <acagastya> It would connect, but won't play.
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2339[14:17:32] <acagastya> But there were some packages to
upgrade, and the last time I was upgrading the system, due to
interrupted connectivity, it didn't finish.
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2340[14:17:36] <acagastya> Just did it, and it is working.
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2344[14:18:10] <acagastya> But it would pause, or produce some
noise.
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2351[14:20:43] <acagastya> apache2-bin apt apt-transport-https
apt-utils at-spi2-core bind9-host bluetooth bluez bluez-obexd
chromium dbus dbus-user-session dbus-x11 desktop-base dns-root-data
evolution evolution-common
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2352[14:20:43] <acagastya> evolution-plugins file flatpak
ghostscript gir1.2-atspi-2.0 gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0
gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 gir1.2-soup-2.4 gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 git
git-man gnupg gnupg-agent gpgv heroku icedove
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2353[14:20:43] <acagastya> icedove-l10n-ja imagemagick
imagemagick-6-common imagemagick-6.q16 irssi krb5-locales
libapt-inst2.0 libapt-pkg5.0 libatspi2.0-0 libatspi2.0-dev
libavcodec57 libavdevice57 libavfilter6 libavformat57
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2354[14:20:43] <acagastya> libavresample3 libavutil55
libbind9-140 libbluetooth-dev libbluetooth3 libdb5.3 libdbus-1-3
libdbus-1-dev libdns-export162 libdns162 libevolution libexpat1
libexpat1-dev libflatpak0 libfreerdp-cache1.1
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2355[14:20:43] <acagastya> libfreerdp-codec1.1
libfreerdp-common1.1.0 libfreerdp-core1.1 libfreerdp-crypto1.1
libfreerdp-gdi1.1 libfreerdp-locale1.1 libfreerdp-primitives1.1
libfreerdp-utils1.1 libgcrypt20 libgd3 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0
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2356[14:20:43] <acagastya> libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common
libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev libgnutls30 libgs9 libgs9-common
libgssapi-krb5-2 libhogweed4 libidn2-0 libimage-magick-perl
libimage-magick-q16-perl libisc-export160 libisc160 libisccc140
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2367[14:22:26] <acagastya> Darn this kiwiIRC.
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2373[14:25:02] <petn-randall> acagastya: I'd finish the
upgrade then. "apt install -f" and "dpkg --configure
-a".
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2379[14:26:22] <hellyeah> hey
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2380[14:26:29] <hellyeah> any idea about this error
Your distribution, identified as "", is not currently
supported, please contact NodeSource at ##replaced-url
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2382[14:26:56] <FinalX> "please contact NodeSource"
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2383[14:27:09] <acagastya> The connection is poor.
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2385[14:27:25] <FinalX> hellyeah: what version are you running?
what does lsb_release -a say?
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2386[14:27:27] <Iridos> whatever that is, isn't detecting
anything, hence the null string
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2390[14:28:40] <Iridos> anyway, if that's node.js, there are
packages for that in debian … if it's not, you might
start by saying what the heck you're talking about
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2392[14:29:08] <hellyeah> FinalX: got an error like that
replaced-url
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2394[14:30:16] <FinalX> well if a basic system script
doesn't work... I'd fix your system first
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2396[14:30:42] <hellyeah> how can i fix that?
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2397[14:30:47] <hellyeah> any idea?
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2404[14:31:37] <FinalX> what version of debian are you running?
because nothing can apparently tell you that.. try cat
/etc/debian_version
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2405[14:31:54] <FinalX> (are you even running debian and not
ubuntu or some other derivative?)
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2408[14:32:19] <hellyeah> buster/sid
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2411[14:33:10] <jelly> is it buster or sid
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2412[14:33:11] <FinalX> ok.. so testing/debian 10, there was a
special channel for that elsewhere I believe
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2415[14:33:38] <petn-randall> !debian-next
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2416[14:33:39] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2417[14:33:47] <jelly> hellyeah: are you on debian or a
derivative? what does "lsb_release -a" say?
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2419[14:33:58] <FinalX> jelly: scroll up :) his lsb_release is
broken
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2421[14:34:03] <FinalX> I asked both already
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2426[14:34:34] <jelly> ah
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2428[14:35:22] <jelly> hellyeah: pastebin the output of
"apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy
lsb-release"
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2429[14:35:40] <hellyeah> sure
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2436[14:36:35] <hellyeah> jelly:
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2477[14:48:20] <hellyeah_> hey
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2479[14:48:43] <hellyeah_> jelly: did you get the link?
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2483[14:50:04] <gpunk> hellyeah_: playing with dns
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2484[14:50:06] <gpunk> ?
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2492[14:51:47] <hellyeah_> gpunk:
replaced-url
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2500[14:54:04] <gpunk> your python installation is messed up
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2504[14:55:31] <gpunk> apt install --reinstall lsb-release I
think
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2543[15:11:00] <MCMic_w> Why is kde-telepathy metapackage missing
from stretch?
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2547[15:12:15] <petn-randall> ,v kde-telepathy
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2548[15:12:16] <judd> Package: kde-telepathy on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.4.0; jessie: 0.8.1; sid: 15.08.3
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2549[15:12:31] <petn-randall> ,why is kde-telepathy not in stable
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2550[15:12:33] <judd> No package named 'is' was found
in stretch/amd64.
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2551[15:12:40] <petn-randall> !why is kde-telepathy not in stable
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2552[15:12:40] <dpkg> petn-randall: what are you talking about?
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2553[15:12:48] <la-o-wai> whose bot is judd
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2555[15:13:00] <petn-randall> Hmpf, forgot how to trigger the bot
properly.
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2557[15:13:20] <la-o-wai> lol!
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2559[15:13:36] <la-o-wai> petn-randall: this
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2560[15:13:57] <petn-randall> la-o-wai: This what now?
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2562[15:14:19] <la-o-wai> !sex > petn-randall
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2564[15:14:31] <la-o-wai> errr
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2565[15:14:39] * babilen eyes la-o-wai
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2569[15:15:07] <MCMic_w>
replaced-url
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2570[15:15:08] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2576[15:16:24] <petn-randall> judd: why is kde-telepathy not in
testing
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2577[15:16:25] <judd> No package named 'is' was found
in stretch/amd64.
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2578[15:16:30] <petn-randall> judd: why kde-telepathy not in
testing
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2580[15:16:31] <judd> No package named 'kde-telepathy'
was found in stretch/amd64.
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2581[15:16:49] * petn-randall scratches head.
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2582[15:17:03] <babilen>
replaced-url
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2583[15:17:14] <babilen> dpkg: why is petn-randall not in testing
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2584[15:17:14] <dpkg> petn-randall is not in testing for the
reasons listed in
replaced-url
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2585[15:17:55] <la-o-wai> dpkg can read human language now?
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2586[15:17:56] <dpkg> la-o-wai: I wish you would RTFM.
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2587[15:18:05] <la-o-wai> :o
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2588[15:18:12] <babilen> dpkg: botsnack
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2589[15:18:12] <dpkg> babilen: :)
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2591[15:18:31] <la-o-wai> still a bot
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2595[15:19:05] <petn-randall> babilen: Ah, so the pitfall is the
factoid works for testing but not stable. :/
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2596[15:19:12] <babilen> Indeed
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2694[15:51:02] <inviz> as expected debian has mediawiki package.
but i wonder if it is worth installing it from apt?
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2700[15:54:16] <jelly> inviz, it's really a hit and miss
with php apps
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2701[15:54:22] <RoyK> inviz: guess that depends on what you need
- the package will work, it'll be stable, and security fixes in
new versions will be backported, but it won't get all the shiny
new stuff from the newest ones
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2702[15:54:27] <RoyK> !sns
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2703[15:54:27] <dpkg> Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious
disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time
something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about
<backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than
upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
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2704[15:54:32] <jelly> some are maintained well, some are not
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2709[15:55:15] <RoyK> I'm don't think I've setup
mediawiki from packages at any time
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2711[15:55:24] <inviz> yeah i am kind of bleeding edge person.
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2712[15:55:28] <jelly> given that upstreams of those often only
support one latest branch, relying on debian's packaging may or
may not work for you
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2713[15:55:29] <RoyK> s/I'm/I/
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2714[15:55:57] <jelly> it's not really a sns issue, but what
actually works well
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2718[15:56:02] <inviz> but most likely i will not care in this
case.
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2720[15:56:23] <inviz> yeah probably worth giving it a try. will
make it upgrading easier.
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2721[15:56:31] <jelly> if it's an internal site it
doesn't really matter, if it's public you're in deep
trouble anyway
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2722[15:56:44] <RoyK> 'anyway'?
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2723[15:56:56] <inviz> anyway, you are saying as mediawiki is
something bad.
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2724[15:57:05] <jelly> for having chosen a php app to run on the
internets
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2725[15:57:10] <petn-randall> :]
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2726[15:57:23] <RoyK> the world's most used wiki is a bad
idea just because it's written in php?
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2727[15:57:27] * RoyK thinks not
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2728[15:57:33] <jelly> yes
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2729[15:57:41] <jelly> php itself is problematic
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2730[15:57:42] <inviz> i prefer dokuwiki though
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2732[15:58:10] <jelly> programming methodology on top can only
help so much
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2733[15:58:14] <RoyK> jelly: well, put aside religion here -
I'm not too fond of php either, but mediawiki works and
it's good
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2736[15:58:45] <jelly> RoyK, I usually take a look at number of
CVEs per year
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2742[15:59:19] <prillian5> Can anybody help me with this g++
dendency error on debian:
replaced-url
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2743[15:59:23] <RoyK> so do I - but then, please find something
without a security issue
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2745[15:59:51] <RoyK> prillian5: which debian version is this?
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2747[15:59:58] <prillian5> Debian 8
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2748[16:00:05] <prillian5> yesterday I've upgraded from 7
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2749[16:00:06] <n4dir> not sure, but i think "fossil"
has something like a wiki, and i think it is rather easy to set up
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2751[16:00:36] <zarzar1> anyone know how to get libxml2 working
on debian? i am getting lots of undefined reference errors
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2761[16:01:24] <n4dir> inviz: ^^
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2766[16:03:12] <inviz> n4dir: that will do for internal
FAQ/Helpdesk page
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2771[16:04:24] <n4dir> i think dragora (the distro) runs
it's whole website on fossil, but, like said, i am not really
into the subject.
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2773[16:04:53] <inviz> i was looking some time ago for something
like help page, easy one.
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2779[16:06:49] <jelly> ikiwiki is nice and simple, markdown
syntax and git/svn commit to change things
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2784[16:07:23] <petn-randall> jelly: If PHP has a high CVE count,
it just means that those bugs all got fixed! Less security bugs left
;)
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2787[16:07:51] <jelly> you'd think that, but the numbers do
not fall as the years go by
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2805[16:17:12] <Meerkat> I'm getting a new drive that I wish
to use as a mirror backup of my system. I run LUKS in LVM on RAID1,
so I'd like to be able to plug this new drive in, mirror the
system and keeping the data encrypted, then remove the drive. Which
tool should I use for this?
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2808[16:18:16] <gpunk> you could dd it
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2809[16:18:48] <petn-randall> gpunk: That would not create
consistent backups.
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2810[16:18:59] <petn-randall> Meerkat: How many drives are you
cycling for backup purposes?
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2812[16:19:39] <petn-randall> Meerkat: If you just have one
drive, I wouldn't call it backups, since you'd have zero
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2813[16:19:41] <Meerkat> 1. I'm planning on re-mirror it
once a month.
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2818[16:20:20] <Meerkat> I see what you mean
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2825[16:23:29] <petn-randall> Meerkat: Also it'll be fairly
slow due to a full front-to-back sync of the mdraid. It's
probably more light-weight to just back up the data on a filesystem
level.
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2831[16:25:12] <muse> cryptsetup plus rsync should be enough
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2834[16:26:47] <tw> Otherwise, encfs or gocryptfs in reverse-mode
might interest you. rclone also has remote crypt support. I'm
using obnam at the moment, but the maintainer has decided to move
on, so I can't recommend it.
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2836[16:27:18] <petn-randall> fast deduplication would be great,
indeed. rdiff-backup is obscenely slow, I just let it run over
night.
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2843[16:30:05] <jhutchins_wk> It is so good to have Linux
available. My brother sent me a tnef attachment today, and even
Outlook wouldn't open it. I fired up the Debian VM, installed
tnef, and was able to extract the images he'd sent in about
three minutes.
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2850[16:32:39] <jelly> there's a dozen commercial backup
products, each with its own block change tracking and fast backups
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2851[16:32:41] <n4dir> gotta say: my first thought was the same
one as the one of muse (cryptsetup and rsync). but i am not in lvm
or raid.
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2895[16:53:34] <MCMic_w> babilen:
replaced-url
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2897[16:54:22] <MCMic_w> Oh ok it’s
replaced-url
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2909[16:58:58] <anasule> I want to read from serial port ive
tried cat /dev/ttyS1 but the port speed is wrong what can i use to
change it?
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2914[17:01:15] <muse> anasule: minicom should handle it
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2929[17:05:07] <anasule> muse: i found mgetty -s 4800 /dev/ttyS1
it took ages to run but its worked thanks for help though
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2933[17:05:56] <jhutchins_wk> anasule: See also setserial.
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2939[17:07:57] <jasperarcola_> anasule : also stty
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2946[17:10:08] <jasperarcola> anasule e.g. stty 115200 <
/dev/ttyS1
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2948[17:11:03] <Demon_Jester> ok, so, I apparently destroyed my
debian by running "cpio -i -F file.cpio" after I ran that
cmmand I got a /bin/ls: exec format error, and fiured to restart, at
the same time I said I don't think I should have.. I tried to
go into recovery mode, and received same end trace, is there a way
to fix this if I boot from another linux distro via usb?
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2949[17:11:05] <anasule> jasperarcola: thanks :)
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2967[17:20:05] <jhutchins_wk> Demon_Jester: That doesn't
really make any sense. Extracting a file from an archive
shouldn't "destroy" the OS. What file did you
extract, to what directory?
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2976[17:22:21] <Demon_Jester> jhutchins_wk, in the same directory
it was in, it was couple folders down from ~, but apparently it did.
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2979[17:23:28] <metaphysician> Is there a official/semi-official
Debian with SELinux enabled release?
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2981[17:23:31] <jelly> ,v ansible
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2982[17:23:32] <judd> Package: ansible on amd64 --
wheezy-backports: 1.7.2+dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.7.2+dfsg-2;
jessie-backports: 2.2.1.0-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.2.1.0-2;
stretch-backports: 2.3.1.0+dfsg-2~bpo9+1; buster: 2.3.2.0+dfsg-1;
sid: 2.4.0.0+dfsg-1
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2983[17:23:44] <Demon_Jester> jhutchins_wk, or it could've
just messed up my grub, and won't boot..
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2987[17:24:57] <metaphysician> minimal/server image
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2999[17:28:16] <DJDan> i imaged the entire /dev/ubi0_1 bs=512 to
a router.img ... is there a way to now undelete the files that were
just deleted?
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3025[17:37:23] <jhutchins_wk> Demon_Jester: Unless it was a very
specific file in a very specific location, it's probably not
related to your problem. cpio won't overwrite existing files,
and the mere presence of a new file shouldn't affect operation.
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3028[17:38:04] <jhutchins_wk> metaphysician: I don't believe
there's a pre-configured instance of SELinux. You can install
and configure it yourself on a minimal system.
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3029[17:38:09] <jhutchins_wk> !selinux
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3030[17:38:09] <dpkg> Security Enhanced Linux (SELinux) is
NSA's port of the FLASK Security Architecture to Linux. Also it
can make your system unbootable if you uninstall it. Unofficial FAQ:
replaced-url
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3031[17:38:37] <jhutchins_wk> metaphysician: See the debian link
above for info specific to this distro.
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3034[17:39:24] <Demon_Jester> jhutchins_wk, that was the only
thing I did before I received all these errors, I can't even
get into recovery mode, since it was kernel panic, or atleast thats
what my screen is saying, what can I do to narrow down what I need
to fix?
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3035[17:39:44] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: There is no magic
"undelete" for standard Linux filesystems. Some desktops
will have a "trash can" that replaces "delete"
with "move to trash".
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3037[17:39:52] <fuzzywuzz> DJDan why were files deleted?
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3038[17:40:09] <jhutchins_wk> Demon_Jester: I doubt we can help
any further without knowing what you extracted where.
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3041[17:41:10] <Demon_Jester> eh oh well, thanks for the help
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3042[17:41:14] <jhutchins_wk> ,v vlc
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3043[17:41:15] <judd> Package: vlc on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; wheezy-security: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1;
wheezy-backports: 2.1.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.2.6-1~deb8u1;
jessie-security: 2.2.6-1~deb8u1; stretch: 2.2.6-1~deb9u1; buster:
2.2.6-6; sid: 2.2.6-6; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.0.6-dmo3+deb7u2;
jessie-multimedia: 1:2.2.1-dmo3+deb8u4; stretch-multimedia:
1:2.2.6-dmo2+deb9u1; buster-
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3044[17:41:16] <judd> multimedia: 1:2.2.6-dmo6; sid-multimedia:
1:2.2.6-dmo6
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3045[17:41:20] <DJDan> jhutchins_wk: it was the file system. LEDE
to be exact... i did dd if=/dev/ubi0_1 bs=512 and imaged it to
router.img , other then hexedit, is there a better method
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3047[17:42:06] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: That's a valid method,
but it doesn't delete anything.
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3048[17:42:20] <petn-randall> DJDan: So you overwrote router.img?
Or what are you trying to recover?
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3049[17:43:17] <DJDan> petn-randall: im trying to recover my main
directory and subdirectory within the LEDE router
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3054[17:44:11] <petn-randall> DJDan: Ok, what are the *exact*
commands that caused them to disappear? Because it's not clear
to me what happened.
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3055[17:44:45] <DJDan> petn-randall: rm -rf ??*
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3059[17:45:05] <petn-randall> "dd if=/dev/ubi0_1
bs=512" would write the contents of /dev/ubi0_1 to STDOUT, that
wouldn't destroy anything.
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3062[17:45:18] <DJDan> petn-randall: what, im backing up
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3063[17:45:35] <DJDan> i deleted with rm -rf a directory and its
subdirectories.. now im trying to restore it
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3066[17:45:52] <arancina> good luck
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3068[17:46:11] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: You could mount the image
via loopback and copy the files to the correct location.
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3071[17:46:59] <DJDan> jhutchins_wk: what u mean? how?
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3076[17:47:49] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: What's the filesystem
of the router?
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3077[17:47:51] <DJDan> im trying to restore files within /root
and sub directories
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3079[17:48:01] <DJDan> Linux LEDE 4.9.52 #0 SMP Thu Sep 28
07:29:31 2017 mips GNU/Linux
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3085[17:49:30] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: Filesystem. fdisk -l
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3089[17:49:57] <arancina> or "mount"
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3093[17:50:15] <DJDan> the files have been deleted
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3095[17:50:29] <jhutchins_wk> arancina: systemd clutters up the
mtab pretty badly these days, mount is pretty useless.
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3096[17:50:51] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: Yes, but the _filesystem_ is
still there. We're thinking maybe ext3.
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3100[17:51:33] <DJDan>
replaced-url
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3101[17:51:54] <DJDan> i backed up the /dev/ubi0_1 part to the
image... thinking i can somehow get back /root files and sub
directories
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3102[17:52:05] <DJDan> and i was hoping a better method then
'hexedit'
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3107[17:52:50] <dTal> jhutchins_wk: don't get me started,
it's awful - apparently just bind mounting a few useful things
like /dev and /sys for a chroot results in huge masses of other
things being mounted (freezer? pstore? mqueue? wth are these) which
then won't unmount until reboot becuase they're "in
use"
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3108[17:53:09] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: Again, mount the image via
loopback. mount -o loop router.image /mnt
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3111[17:53:36] <dTal> for extra fun MATE puts all these bizarro
mounts on the desktop
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3113[17:54:08] <jhutchins_wk> dTal: We can only hope it's a
work in progress and will eventually be cleaned up.
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3114[17:54:10] <arancina> jhutchins_wk: yeah
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3117[17:54:47] <DJDan> jhutchins_wk: do i do that in debian or on
the router
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3120[17:55:35] <muse> Dj_Dexter, if you want to do a forensic
examination of your image file, you might look at sleuthkit/autopsy
packages.
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3124[17:56:13] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: Should work either place. I
think I'd do it on the debian system.
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3126[17:56:38] <muse> opps, that was for DJDan ^^
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3129[17:57:15] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: Y'know, I specifically
did NOT suggest df, because df doesn't report the filesystem
type. fdisk -l does.
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3131[17:57:26] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: Also, paste.debian.net -
pastebin.com BAD.
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3132[17:57:55] <abff> jhutchins_wk why?
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3133[17:58:37] <DJDan> that required root, then wouldnt mount
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3134[17:58:38] <jhutchins_wk> abff: Ads, java, malware.
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3138[17:59:48] <DJDan>
replaced-url
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3142[18:02:30] <DJDan> it comes up with ubifs errors... its a
mipsel filsystem
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3149[18:04:59] <DJDan>
replaced-url
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3155[18:07:26] <DJDan> even if i do get this mounted, how do i
actually get it to undelete the /root/...... files and sub files
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3160[18:08:54] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: I don't know mips
filesystems, but generally in *nix deleted is deleted, there's
no "restore" execpt from backup.
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3161[18:09:31] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: I would guess your next step
would be to investigate how to support that filesystem on a Linux
system. Then again, you could just try mounting it on the mips
device.
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3164[18:09:48] <OS-28688> #join offsec
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3165[18:09:53] <OS-28688> !join offsec
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3166[18:10:02] <jhutchins_wk> OS-28688: /
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3169[18:10:57] <DJDan> jhutchins_wk: even if it mounted, how
would i then restore from it.. i was suggested to hexedit the img
file..but theres gotta be a better method
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3170[18:11:17] <DJDan> cause the files arent in a directory
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3171[18:11:27] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: Just copy the files.
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3173[18:11:38] <DJDan> i deleted the files from /root
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3174[18:11:55] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: Copy the files from the
mounted image.
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3177[18:12:30] <DJDan> jhutchins_wk: i dont understand, i was on
the router.. i deleted /root files and its sub directories... i then
imaged the thing (with the deleted dir) to a .img file
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3178[18:12:33] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: If they're not there,
you probably need to do a clean install. You can mess with things
like photorec, but I don't know whether they support mips and
mips filesystems.
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3180[18:12:47] <jhutchins_wk> DJDan: Oh, then the files are gone
if they're not in the image.
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3181[18:13:01] <DJDan> the filesare viewable in a hexedit of the
img file
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3182[18:13:13] <DJDan> well the text*
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3187[18:14:25] <muse> DJDan, you can try examining your .img file
with sleuthkit/autopsy and see if you can recover your deleted
files.
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3194[18:16:08] <DJDan> muse: im trying to find the osx gui now...
but the img file is from LEDE mipsel device so not sure i i can
mount it
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3198[18:18:44] <rh10> guys, best way to use new software on old
debian distro? are there backports? for example - tmux, mc
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3201[18:19:33] <mtn> !backports
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3202[18:19:33] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian
branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency
and <ABI> complications.
replaced-url
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3207[18:21:00] <DJDan> muse: i cant seem to find any osx version
or anything... im not sure if the img file is going to mount too..
cause that mount -o loop router.img /mnt came up with errrors
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3208[18:21:22] <DJDan> mount: wrong fs type..bad options, bad
superblock on /dev/loop0... etc..
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3212[18:22:57] <rh10> mtn, thanks
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3225[18:27:07] <at0m> ,v radicale
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3226[18:27:08] <judd> Package: radicale on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.7-1.1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 0.7-1.1+deb7u2; jessie:
0.9-1+deb8u1; jessie-security: 0.9-1+deb8u1; stretch:
1.1.1+20160115-4; sid: 1.1.6-1; experimental: 2.1.5-1
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3229[18:28:35] <pierrot> Good afternoon. I've configured a
Compose key and I have a ~/.XCompose file with some customizations.
It works just fine (I add bindings to new symbols in that file and
they work just as expected). However, I'm confused about
something.
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3232[18:28:53] <pierrot> Bindings *that are not* defined in
~/.XCompose work as well
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3236[18:29:25] <DJDan> muse: where do i find the osx gui for
autospy? the file wont mount on my system tho
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3239[18:30:08] <pierrot> I thought that was due to I included the
default Compose file in my ~/.XCompose and that was true (I had an
'include "%L"' at the top of the file). Now I
removed that line
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3241[18:30:28] <pierrot> but bindings that are not defined in
~/.XCompose still work
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3243[18:30:44] <ebp> hello, since the 9.2 update I have this
replaced-url
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3246[18:31:03] <pierrot> Why is that?
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3248[18:31:36] <Meerkat> petn-randall, thank you for your help!
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3250[18:32:25] <petn-randall> Meerkat: You're welcome!
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3261[18:35:07] <enerluna> hihi
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3263[18:35:55] <rh10> guys, i've read about backports. is
there some backports for debian 7?
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3264[18:36:11] <enerluna> im trying to create a key file to
unlock my hard drive in the future.
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3266[18:37:19] <enerluna> however after cryptsetup luksAddKey
/dev/YourDeviceName /keyfile i did cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/sda5
/keyfile
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3269[18:37:30] <enerluna> but i get an error
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3270[18:38:00] <annadane> enerluna, out of curiosity did the
install go well yesterday?
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3271[18:38:18] <enerluna> i run a recovery install
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3272[18:38:31] <enerluna> instali386 or something i cant remember
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3273[18:38:34] <enerluna> and it booted xD
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3276[18:39:42] <petn-randall> rh10: Ehm, yes. Did you read the
factoid?
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3278[18:41:13] <metaphysician> External link mentioned in
!selinux is dead
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3281[18:41:43] <enerluna> annedane any tips for the other
question ?
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3282[18:42:03] <annadane> enerluna, no idea, sorry
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3288[18:42:38] <RoyK> rh10:
replaced-url
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3289[18:42:39] <annadane> enerluna, btw you can use tab
completion for names, it lets the other person know you responded;
you can type the first few letters of their name and hit tab, if
your irc client supports it
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3292[18:43:09] <enerluna> annadane: ooh nice
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3293[18:43:26] <ctc_2> jelly: excuse me hello?
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3298[18:44:41] <michal_> Hello, maybe I am on bad channel, but I
dont know where I can ask, I check my connection on my router and I
found that one computer sending data to some address and I
don't have run any program or web side. address are something
like prg03s02-in-f110.1e100.net:443 or waw02s07-in-f4.1e100.net:443
etc.. what is it? I have debian on my computers
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3308[18:47:18] <rh10> RoyK, got it, thanks. (not nick has another
history)
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3312[18:48:05] <rh10> RoyK, now have a few debian7 servers, not
just simple to upgrade them.
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3313[18:48:12] <enerluna> stuck again fml
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3319[18:50:18] <RoyK> rh10: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and do
apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ; apt-get dist-upgrade
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3327[18:51:50] <rh10> RoyK,know it. but thanks for advice
(actually need a lot of tests to ensure that upgrade will be
successful)
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3328[18:51:51] <lord_rob> michal_:
replaced-url
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3337[18:52:49] <rh10> RoyK, probably will be better to build my
own packages? how do you think?
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3339[18:53:14] <RoyK> rh10: probably better upgrade - deb7 is old
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3341[18:54:04] <rh10> RoyK, you 100% right. it is in near future
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3343[18:54:21] <rh10> RoyK, but now i can do usual work.
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3344[18:54:39] <RoyK> rh10: not saying you should stick to the
newest all the time, but deb7 is out of ordinary support, only LTS
left, so I'd really recommend upgrading
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3347[18:55:34] <rh10> RoyK, understand it. thanks for support.
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3354[18:56:58] <enerluna> im trying to create a key file to
unlock my hard drive in the future. however after cryptsetup
luksAddKey /dev/YourDeviceName /keyfile i did cryptsetup luksAddKey
/dev/sda5 /keyfile
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3356[18:57:08] <enerluna> i get an unknown action
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3358[18:58:06] <lord_rob> michal_: try "nslookup
prg03s02-in-f110.1e100.net" to get the IP then "whois
IP" and it goes to Google, as the article says
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3366[19:00:34] <michal_> oh my god, google is everywhere, many
thanks. the link show how to stop isn't it?
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3368[19:01:05] <michal_> BTW is possible stop it by iptables?
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3370[19:01:28] <lord_rob> I don't know, google for that ;-)
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3373[19:02:29] <abff> michal_ you should probably determine
what's doing it, do you use chrome?
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3377[19:02:47] <michal_> I use firefox
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3380[19:02:59] <muse> michal_ you can block any ip address from
accessing any port. ufw is easier than iptables.
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3381[19:03:24] <lord_rob> everytime you use youtube, a request to
1e100 (gogol) is sent
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3384[19:03:37] <annadane> if you just don't want google
tracking you there's a number of browser anti-tracking tools
you can install
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3386[19:04:18] <michal_> I see, so I can not block it, bcs I
sometime use youtube
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3388[19:04:51] <michal_> But why it sent data when I don't
use youtube, this is bad
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3389[19:05:04] <lord_rob> of course, and I'm not sure that
Chromium tracks you less than Chrome
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3393[19:05:46] <annadane> i'm 100% sure it tracks you *less*
but firefox is probably the more privacy respecting option, though
not everyone is thrilled with some of what mozilla is doing, but
that's a seperate conversation
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3400[19:07:36] <annadane> my default list of privacy tools that i
install are privacy badger, ublock origin, https everywhere and
decentraleyes - there's a very comprehensive list at
privacytools.io
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3401[19:07:42] <lord_rob> ff is the browser I use the most,
because it's the most convenient. But I have to admit that
Chromium is way faster
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3406[19:09:08] <annadane> lord_rob, if you're interested,
firefox 57 ("quantum") is supposed to be much faster -
replaced-url
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3407[19:09:17] <michal_> So no way? I am not paranoid, I just
dont like things out of control. And it is fully out of controll.
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3409[19:09:33] <annadane> but the thing with doing that is you
have to keep your configuration folders seperate with the esr
version
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3410[19:10:37] <annadane> michal_, right, as i listed above you
can install some of those privacy tools to prevent tracking
generally; i actually just went ahead and blocked youtube.com and
accounts.youtube.com from using cookies
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3412[19:11:14] <lord_rob> Oh I'm using 52 ESR like all the
people using testing and I'm happy with it
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3413[19:11:29] <enerluna> any help for me?
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3414[19:11:30] <michal_> I see
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3422[19:14:18] <lord_rob> Google and Facebook are free because
*you* are the product ;-)
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3424[19:14:55] <annadane> well, and they also extensively track
you offline even if you don't have an account, unfortunately
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3425[19:15:07] <annadane> s/offline/off of their sites
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3428[19:15:27] <annadane> certainly facebook does, not sure if
google does it as much
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3433[19:16:02] <muse> enerluna, not sure, but cryptsetup might
want the dev-mapper device name instead of the physical device name
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3435[19:16:31] <lord_rob> sure they do, everytime you browse
FOOsite you see something like foo.googlesyndication.com
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3438[19:17:03] <enerluna> muse: what should i type then?
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3439[19:17:26] <muse> whatever you named the device
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