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0[00:00:03] <k3rn3lwalk3r_> while installing
webcamstudio-dkms_0.61_all.deb
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1[00:00:15] <k3rn3lwalk3r_> can anyone help me
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4[00:00:29] <mtn> k3rn3lwalk3r_: only debian is supported here
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6[00:00:42] <missmbob> !tell k3rn3lwalk3r_ -about based on
debian
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7[00:01:02] <missmbob> k3rn3lwalk3r_: this isnt your first
time, either.
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15[00:02:28] <ryouma> so perhaps both of the videos i tried are
abnormal and the library will not work, or the library is corrupted
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18[00:03:19] <teraflops> ryouma: sounds reasonable, sharing the
video would help though
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41[00:13:09] <Elronnd> does anyone have any good
recommendations for 2-d animation software?
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55[00:21:07] <master_01> help
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60[00:22:51] <BenNZ> master_01: easiest fix would be to install
the fglrx driver
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64[00:23:18] <master_01> BenNZ, k i'll try that thanks
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66[00:23:48] <missmbob> !tell master_01 -about fglrx dkms
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69[00:24:31] <master_01> missmbob, i'll look into it thnx
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71[00:25:03] <jmcnaught> Does cinnamon work with fglrx? because
fglrx breaks GNOME.
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73[00:25:27] <missmbob> i have no idea
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76[00:26:07] <BenNZ> jmcnaught: does it other distros , so
should do here
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77[00:26:11] <BenNZ> *in
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78[00:26:23] <master_01> i will try non-free sources
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79[00:26:26] <master_01> first
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80[00:26:31] <jmcnaught> master_01: before installing fglrx,
did you try installing firmware-linux-nonfree?
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81[00:26:41] <jmcnaught> master_01:
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86[00:29:32] <jmcnaught> master_01: firmware-linux-nonfree
package is in non-free, so this is the first step to enabling
acceleration in the open source radeon driver too
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87[00:29:35] <master_01> hmm no i'll just try the easy way
first and install firmware-linux-nonfre i guess
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89[00:29:49] <master_01> ok thnx
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93[00:31:27] <jmcnaught> master_01: good choice. look at the
wiki page i linked to. the radeon driver integrates with the rest of
Debian better than fglrx (which is closed source), and is still
pretty fast for most uses
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95[00:32:26] <master_01> i bookmarked
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96[00:32:51] <master_01> so i installed firmware-linux-nonfree,
now just reboot?
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100[00:33:56] <jmcnaught> master_01:
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102[00:34:40] <master_01> thanks
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103[00:34:45] <master_01> rebooting
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112[00:37:44] <lindylex> Where does are the mysql library files
stored? I need to pass this parameter to build motion.
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114[00:38:07] <master_01> i guess it worked. how can i make
sure?
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115[00:38:34] <somiaj> lindylex: what do you mean pass a
parameter to the build motion? Do you need to rebuild mysql to
include a build flag that is not included by debian?
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117[00:38:56] <somiaj> lindylex: or do you just need the mysql
headers so you can build software against the mysql libaries on your
system?
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119[00:39:20] <lindylex> I need to pass this parameter to
motion. I am building it from source. --with-mysql-lib
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120[00:39:39] <somiaj> lindylex: you need the headers, these are
included in -dev (development packages)
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122[00:39:42] <lindylex> somaij: yes "or do you just need
the mysql headers so you can build software against the mysql
libaries on your system?"
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123[00:39:54] <lindylex> I isntalled the dev package.
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124[00:40:09] <lindylex> I just need to specify where they are
located.
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125[00:40:12] <somiaj> lindylex: which dev package?
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126[00:40:18] <jmcnaught> master_01: do you still get the
warning you showed in your imgur link? you can run
"glxinfo"
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127[00:40:21] <lindylex> mysql
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128[00:40:23] <somiaj> lindylex: dpkg -L packagename will list
the contents of th epackage.
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130[00:40:54] <missmbob> lindylex: you didnt answer the
question. if the right dev package is installed it'll find it
automatically. mysql has a few. that's why he asked.
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132[00:41:04] <master_01> no i didn't get a warning
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134[00:41:34] <lindylex> missmbob: motion did not find it. I
have no idea why it did not.
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135[00:41:45] <somiaj> lindylex: which package did you install?
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136[00:41:47] <missmbob> lindylex: so you're not going to
answer which dev package?
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137[00:41:49] <lindylex> I installed sudo apt-get install
mysql-server libmysqlclient-dev
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138[00:41:58] <master_01>
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141[00:42:43] <somiaj> lindylex: that is only one of the
multiple -dev packages I see for mysql. I don't know mysql well
enough to know what -dev package you need, but it sounds like it
isn't the client you want.
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143[00:42:47] <master_01> i guess i should also install
libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati
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144[00:42:49] <master_01> ?
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146[00:43:25] <jmcnaught> master_01: that third line is what you
check in the glxinfo output. direct rendering means 3D acceleration
is working
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147[00:43:40] <somiaj> lindylex: If I were to guess, I would
think you would need libmysql++-dev, that contains the C++ headers.
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148[00:43:49] <master_01> cool
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149[00:43:52] <lindylex> I am following the instruction on
motion help file motion_guide.html on git hub.
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150[00:44:04] <jmcnaught> master_01: line 43 too
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154[00:44:56] <master_01> do i still install libgl1-mesa-dri
xserver-xorg-video-ati like the url you posted suggests?
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156[00:45:08] <somiaj> lindylex: in my experience building
things, if I have the correct -dev package installed, things are
detected automatically. So I would assume this is similar and the
reason it isn't working is you don't have the correct -dev
package installed for the libaries it needs.
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157[00:45:19] <missmbob> ,v motion
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158[00:45:24] <judd> Package: motion on amd64 -- wheezy:
3.2.12-3.4; jessie: 3.2.12+git20140228-4+b3; stretch:
3.2.12+git20140228-9+b1; sid: 3.4.1-1
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161[00:45:41] <lindylex> I need version 3.4
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163[00:45:49] <missmbob> ,checkbackport motion
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164[00:45:50] <judd> Backporting package motion in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
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165[00:45:55] <missmbob> !tell lindylex about ssb
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166[00:46:08] <somiaj> lindylex: this may help. add a deb-src to
your sources.list and then use apt-get build-dep motion
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167[00:46:16] <master_01> coming from linux mint i didn't
have to do all this
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169[00:46:31] <master_01> but it's good to learn
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170[00:46:35] <somiaj> master_01: are you trying to use the
non-free fglrx drivers?
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172[00:47:01] <master_01> firmware-linux-nonfree is installed
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173[00:47:05] <master_01> and working
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174[00:47:20] <somiaj> master_01: or are you wanting to use the
radeon open drivers?
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175[00:47:40] <master_01> firmware-linux-nonfree
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180[00:48:37] <master_01> jmcnaught, do i still install
libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati like the url you posted
suggests?
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183[00:49:02] <jmcnaught> master_01:
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189[00:50:43] <master_01> jmcnaught, thanks
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191[00:51:56] <jmcnaught> master_01: welcome
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194[00:52:31] <lindylex> somiaj: I have deb-scr
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197[00:53:05] <master_01> you're right those packages are
already installed
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198[00:53:23] <somiaj> lindylex: you only have the deb-src for
testing-updates, you need a deb-src for just testing (the palace the
package lives)
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199[00:53:37] <somiaj> lindylex: also you should use
'stretch' instead of 'testing' in your
sources.list
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201[00:53:58] <master_01> anyone uses inxi?
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203[00:54:19] <jmcnaught> master_01: sounds like it's
working properly then. give it a spin for a while and see if it
works fast enough for you
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205[00:54:31] <somiaj> lindylex: one thing to note, since you
are using testing (not stable) you should visit #debian-next on
irc.oftc.net. It is not suggested you use testing for a server.
Since you are using testing, installing the package from sid is
possible and may not require you actually compile it from source.
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208[00:55:07] <lindylex> Thanks
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210[00:55:24] <master_01> jmcnaught, i will be trying to game
(urban terror) and see :)
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212[00:55:45] <somiaj> in many cases the open radeon driver has
comparable preformance to fgrlx-nonfree driver.
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213[00:56:06] <somiaj> and on older radeon cards it is the only
option available, the non-free driver drops support of older cards.
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214[00:56:11] <master_01> i will switch if anything
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216[00:56:32] <master_01> somiaj, good to know
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218[00:57:57] <master_01> all i need now is to update my grub,
it reads Windows Recovery instead of just Windows 10...
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220[00:58:04] <master_01> need help with that
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222[00:58:17] <somiaj> master_01: do you have the os-prober
package installed?
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223[00:58:54] <master_01> yes
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224[00:59:12] <somiaj> master_01: are you booting windows and
debian using (u)efi or legacy boot?
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229[00:59:51] <master_01> somiaj, i'm not sure
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231[01:00:11] <somiaj> master_01: ls /boot/efi (do you see
anything in that directory)
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233[01:00:45] <master_01> ls: cannot access /boot/efi: No such
file or directory
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235[01:00:53] <YokoBR> hi folks and gals
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236[01:01:06] <master_01> hi yoko
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237[01:01:32] <somiaj> master_01: well in debian you are using
legacy boot. If you are using efi boot with windows you may not be
able to load it with grub. You can run 'update-grub' just
to see if it detects windows 10 any better, if not you may have to
figure out what mode windows boots into and manully fix grub.
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240[01:02:04] <YokoBR> well, i'm on debian jessie and when
I turn it on I aways have to reboot 2, 3 times until wifi connects.
Mine is Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 .
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241[01:02:32] <YokoBR> I've already tryied some tutorials,
blacklisting stuff but none worked.
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244[01:03:45] <YokoBR> every day I miss 30 min of work because
of this.
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245[01:03:48] <somiaj> YokoBR: lets figure out why the wifi is
having trouble as I don't see why rebooting fixes this.
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246[01:04:13] <YokoBR> my boss is getting angry lol
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248[01:04:27] <somiaj> !bcm4313
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249[01:04:28] <dpkg> The Broadcom BCM4313 (PCI ID 14e4:4727) -
incorrectly identified as BCM4727 by Broadcom's proprietary
driver - is an 802.11n PCIe wireless LAN chipset. Not supported by
the <b43> driver at this time. For device support, ask about
me about <brcmsmac>, <wl>. Not to be confused with the
<bcm4331>.
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250[01:04:29] <jmcnaught> master_01: did you run "ls
/boot/efi" as root?
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252[01:04:36] <missmbob> then tell your boss to buy you a new
laptop. i'd milk that all day
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253[01:04:56] <somiaj> jmcnaught: I didn't need to run it
as root on my system.
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254[01:04:57] <master_01> jmcnaught, no i didn't, i will
now
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258[01:05:11] <YokoBR> somiaj: I'm already using the wl
driver and b43 is blacklisted.
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259[01:05:24] <master_01> it's su root right?
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260[01:05:29] <master_01> to switch
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261[01:05:30] <somiaj> YokoBR: well when it boots and
doesn't work, try to identify why it doesn't work.
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262[01:05:38] <somiaj> master_01: correct, or if you have sudo
set up, just 'sudo ls /boot/efi'
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263[01:05:48] <jmcnaught> somiaj: /boot/efi is 700 root:root
here
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265[01:06:42] <somiaj> YokoBR: i.e. does the wrong module get
loaded? Is it an error with the firmware, or is the driver just
flaky and you could just reload the module a few times to kick it
into gear.
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266[01:06:43] <master_01> ls: cannot access /boot/efi: No such
file or directory
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267[01:07:00] <somiaj> jmcnaught: intertsing, mine is 755,
fairly sure I'm using the defaults.
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268[01:07:10] <master_01> so it's legacy then
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271[01:07:27] <master_01> i will try update-grub as root
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272[01:07:41] <missmbob> somiaj: 700 here...
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275[01:08:50] <jmcnaught> drwx------ 3 root root 4096 Dec 31
1969 /boot/efi <-- that date looks off
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277[01:09:12] <master_01> don't think it worked
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279[01:09:24] <somiaj> missmbob: hmm, that is probabaly better
permisions. Unsure why mine is 755, it was a fresh jessie install I
belive.
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281[01:09:58] <master_01> i will reboot to make sure and see
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282[01:10:08] <climjark> got a dumb question here
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284[01:10:09] <somiaj> jmcnaught: mine has the same date, but
its because it is a fat16 file system mounted there, so wonder if it
is the /etc/fstab that sets up the permissions.
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285[01:10:24] <master_01> brb
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287[01:10:33] <missmbob> i also have the same date
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289[01:10:36] <climjark> -dev packages, are they for development
of the library or to use for developing programs with them
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290[01:10:44] <somiaj> jmcnaught, missmbob: in my /etc/fstab I
have /boot/efi as vfat and defaults.
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291[01:10:56] <jmcnaught> somiaj: vfat umask=0077 here
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292[01:11:15] <missmbob> same umask=0077 here
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293[01:11:38] <somiaj> wonder if I just did something strange
when I installed, or the installer has changed (I can't recall
if I orignally installed this as a wheey or jessie machine)
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294[01:11:58] <missmbob> somiaj: i used jessie installer. i dont
mess with the alpha stuff...so i dont know.
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295[01:12:03] <somiaj> climjark: the -dev packages contain the
headers (.h files) needed to build software against those libaries.
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296[01:12:15] <somiaj> missmbob: me either, but this could have
been a wheezy->jessie upgrade.
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299[01:12:46] <climjark> somiaj, so i should install those
packages to develop software with them
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301[01:13:07] <somiaj> climjark: if you need to compile software
against those libaries, then yes.
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303[01:13:42] <somiaj> climjark: maybe being a bit more specific
about what you are doing will give you a more definitive answer.
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306[01:14:26] <master_01> still the same :-/
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308[01:14:42] <climjark> somiaj, im creating a game engine using
glew, sdl , openal and lua. i want to make sure im grabbing the
correct packages, which are lib(libraryName)-dev
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309[01:15:11] <master_01> but i fix this same issue when i used
linux mint. i installed grub-customizer
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311[01:15:26] <master_01> it automatically fix the issue
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313[01:15:34] * teraflops uses gummiboot on a couple of machines
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317[01:16:15] <somiaj> teraflops: I keep meaning to swtich away
from grub. with efi I see little reason for grub since the efi
firmware is a good enough boot loader for multiple oses (or even
kernels).
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318[01:16:23] <master_01> but to install grub-customizer in
debian is different and im not sure how to do it :-/
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319[01:16:24] <jmcnaught> master_01: did you install using a
live image? only the installer images support UEFI
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321[01:16:37] <somiaj> climjark: then yes to compile the code
you'll want the -dev packages for the libaries you are using
with your #include lines.
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322[01:16:42] <teraflops> somiaj: systemd-boot is pretty fast
and simple
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323[01:16:44] <master_01> no in live no
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324[01:16:50] <master_01> not*
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326[01:17:18] <climjark> thank you somiaj maybe one day my
engine will be a package in the contrib distro ;D
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327[01:17:18] <teraflops> it's still called gummiboot in
jessie
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328[01:17:48] <somiaj> teraflops: so systemd-boot is gummiboot
or similar?
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329[01:18:13] <master_01> i could try to run mint live and
install grub-customizer to fix this, but i rather learn to install
it on debian
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330[01:18:51] <master_01> not as easy i see :-/
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332[01:19:06] <somiaj> master_01: you can manually add your own
boot entries to grub in /etc/grub.d/ and I wonder if grub-customizer
is just diong that.
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333[01:19:27] <somiaj> master_01: look at /etc/grub.d/40_custom
or /etc/grub.d/41_custom [though I'm unsure of what is needed
to get it to boot windows 10]
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335[01:21:01] <teraflops> somiaj: gummiboot is how systemd-boot
is called in jessie because it is an old version, jessie uses
systemd 2.15
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337[01:21:33] <teraflops> also the installer does not support
gummiboot, at least the official one
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342[01:22:11] <somiaj> teraflops: ahh, I didn't realize
gumiboot was part of systemd.
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343[01:22:21] <teraflops> it's now
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344[01:22:27] <teraflops> hmm
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345[01:22:29] <tgunr> I'm trying out nftables for first
time and reading discovered a tool, iptables-translate but
can't find where to get it.
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346[01:22:34] <teraflops> somiaj:
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347[01:22:38] <master_01> somiaj, i'll look into it
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354[01:27:29] <master_01>
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361[01:28:24] <master_01> if i simply ad entries how will it
know to link to windows 10
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362[01:28:30] <master_01> add*
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363[01:28:53] <somiaj> master_01: you will have to give it all
the info about which partiton/disk/etc to boot from.
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364[01:29:06] <somiaj> master_01: I haven't dual booted
with windows in so long I wouldn't be of much help what you
actually need.
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368[01:30:57] <master_01> i'd rather just install
grub-customizer
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371[01:31:14] <master_01> somiaj, would you know how? :D
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373[01:31:55] <somiaj> since it is not part of debian. I
don't. And being that mint is based of of ubuntu, it may not be
compadable with how debian runs grub.
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374[01:32:19] * master_01 :(
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375[01:33:15] <bazhang> the mint support is on spotchat irc
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376[01:33:22] <master_01> i will go ahead and boot from a live
mint and try
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379[01:34:09] <master_01> bazhang, i'm a former mint user
and been there for months :)
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380[01:34:29] <master_01> but thnx anyway :)
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382[01:35:44] <master_01> i will brb and will let you guys know
if it worked :P
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390[01:39:50] <teraflops> tgunr: where's the fun converting
rules with a script?
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392[01:40:25] <tgunr> fun? what fun?
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395[01:41:25] <teraflops> ⎸ I'm trying out nftables for
first time and reading discovered a tool, iptables-translate
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402[01:46:45] <teraflops> tgunr: ah yo u think is not funny,
sorry
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404[01:47:34] <tgunr> would be easier for me to understand if I
could see my current rules as translated to nft
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406[01:47:58] <teraflops> tgunr: I can share a sample
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408[01:48:09] <teraflops> a working example
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409[01:48:17] <tgunr> just found nftables sources, compiling it
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412[01:49:04] <missmbob> ,v nftables
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413[01:49:05] <judd> Package: nftables on amd64 --
jessie-backports: 0.6-1~bpo8+1; sid: 0.6-2; stretch: 0.6-2
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414[01:49:19] <teraflops> tgunr:
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415[01:49:22] * awal1 Wonders if systemd team have plans for throw out
grub, xorg, linux and all gnu/linux major softwares...
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416[01:49:29] <missmbob> just need to add jessie-backports it
seems. never used nftables myself
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417[01:49:36] <teraflops> awal1: ah good joke :P
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419[01:49:58] <missmbob> awal1: xorg isnt long for this world
anyway :P
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420[01:50:02] <tgunr> thanks
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423[01:51:28] <missmbob> ,v iptables-nftables-compat
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424[01:51:29] <judd> Package: iptables-nftables-compat on amd64
-- sid: 1.6.0-3; stretch: 1.6.0-3
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425[01:51:34] <missmbob> tgunr: see that too ^
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426[01:51:35] <awal1> teraflops, missmbob, well I won't be
conditioned by systemd like google is doing with many stuff in the
web jungle; monopolizing it all
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427[01:51:53] <tgunr> cc
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429[01:52:24] <missmbob> !tell tgunr -about ssb
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431[01:52:37] <tgunr> sindle side band?
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432[01:52:45] <tgunr> single side band?
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433[01:52:45] <teraflops> awal1: thank $DEITIES you can use
whatever you want
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435[01:53:06] <missmbob> tgunr: the bot told you. how you get
iptables-nftables-compat in jessie if you want
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437[01:53:32] <tgunr> added jessie backports, not finding that
package
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438[01:53:53] <missmbob> because it's not in there. the
first one i mentioned was, not the second. for the second you need
ssb
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439[01:54:18] <tgunr> ah
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440[01:54:25] <awal1> teraflops, now yes, but I'm worried
for next near future; like conditioned by what Lennart &
companions & redhat decides
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443[01:54:57] <teraflops> awal1: nah use openbsd or voidlinux
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444[01:55:15] <awal1> teraflops, :P
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446[01:55:50] <awal1> first time I hear about gumiboot...
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447[01:57:20] <teraflops> it's in jessie ^
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448[01:57:30] <awal1> I see , yeah
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676[03:53:21] <greyeax> welp
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how to do full disk encryption on debian, including /boot using
serpent-xts-plain64 512 keysize and whirlpool hashing
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puts the right crypto modules in the right places if you don't
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706[04:10:28] <RoyK> greyeax: I doubt you need to encrypt /boot,
but it should be doable. Anyway, there's raraly any need for a
dedicated /boot partition anymore
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709[04:12:37] <greyeax> RoyK, an unencrypted boot is vulnerable
to an attacker with physical access to the machine
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710[04:13:00] <missmbob> greyeax: vulnerable to what?
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711[04:13:04] <RoyK> not unless you store the passwords
unencrypted there
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712[04:13:26] <greyeax> missmbob, RoyK:
replaced-url
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713[04:13:39] <RoyK> what would (s)he have to gain by reading
those kernel files?
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714[04:13:40] <greyeax> basically, if the /boot is unencrypted
it can be poisoned
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715[04:13:44] <missmbob> unencrypted /boot is not a risk.
that's crazy. i dont care what a wp blog from 2011 tells you
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716[04:14:47] <RoyK> well, don't use a separate /boot,
then, if you're that paranoid
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717[04:14:54] <greyeax> it quite literally is, he was able to
get the disk encryption passphrase, run arbitrary code, get the
contents of his passwd and shadow files, and ssh credentials. he was
also able to get reverse root shells
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718[04:15:20] <greyeax> RoyK: it's not exactly separate, i
have it setup as one massive luks partition, and within it lvm
partitions, separated into /boot swap and /root
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719[04:15:25] <greyeax> or / as it were
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720[04:16:18] <greyeax> but not really the point, what i'm
trying to figure out is why the initramfs doesn't see the uuid
of that partition
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721[04:16:22] <tgunr> I can't seem to get nftables to log
:( tried setting the /proc to no avail
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722[04:16:39] <greyeax> i know it's the correct uuid
because i checked, and i know the encryption worked properly because
grub can decrypt the lvm /boot partition
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723[04:16:41] <RoyK> greyeax: then someone must have done
something rather strange - it's quite common to use an
encrypted swap area for such systems, and if you don't, the
system will be compromisable even with an encrypted /boot
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724[04:17:14] <RoyK> tgunr: IIRC nftables isn't in stable,
try #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net
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725[04:17:24] <missmbob> it's in jessie-backports though
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726[04:17:45] <missmbob> never used it so i dont know how to
help you, however
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727[04:17:59] <RoyK> just use ufw
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728[04:17:59] <tgunr> according to docs, it's been in good
use for 1.5+ year
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729[04:18:00] <RoyK> it works
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730[04:18:06] <greyeax> RoyK: initrd is just code that sits in
/boot so that it can decrypt it, it's not that hard to slightly
modify the code to simply capture the passphrase keystrokes, and set
up a small script to run after initial startup
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731[04:18:18] <jmcnaught> encrypted /boot protects you against
"agents stole/compromised my laptop and tamper with it, then
put it back, and now they monitor me". for most people they
just need "i lost my laptop and don't want people
accessing the info on it"
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733[04:19:32] <RoyK> greyeax: hm - I didn't think of that -
anyway - a separate /boot partition hasn't been needed for
years
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735[04:20:24] <RoyK> greyeax: only issue is that whenever the
machine is booted, manual interaction is needed, but again, I guess
that can be tolerated if security is high
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736[04:20:46] <greyeax> RoyK: well once again, it's not
quite, "separate" it's just an lvm partiton. I
suppose that counts as separate, but the only reason i set it up
that way is because some aspect of grub assumed there would be a
boot partition and complained
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737[04:20:48] <greyeax> don't quite remember what
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740[04:21:48] <greyeax> but either way what i'm trying to
figure out is why my initramfs can't see the partition via
it's uuid
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741[04:21:52] <RoyK> greyeax: if someone gets in with root
access, you're fucked anyway
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742[04:22:17] <greyeax> RoyK: sure, but they need to get in with
root access first
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743[04:22:41] <missmbob> just like they'd need to get in
with root access before any /boot mischief can happen
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744[04:22:47] <missmbob> but i guess you've made up your
mind
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746[04:23:01] <greyeax> missmbob: they would not, if they had
physical access to the machine and the /boot was unencrypted
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747[04:23:17] <missmbob> you'd still need someone to log in
after they tampered
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748[04:23:18] <greyeax> because if it's unencrypted all you
have to do is slightly alter the initrd/initramfs
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750[04:23:26] <greyeax> missmbob:
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751[04:23:29] * RoyK just wonders why /boot should be on its own
partition or lv
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752[04:23:33] <greyeax> yes, but that's also how hardware
keylogger work
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753[04:23:51] <RoyK> greyeax++
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754[04:24:00] <missmbob> so dont use computers. problem solved.
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755[04:24:17] * RoyK hands out typewrters
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756[04:24:34] <greyeax> missmbob: this isn't really
relevant to my issue, security is multifaceted and multilayred
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757[04:24:38] <greyeax> layered
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758[04:24:44] <greyeax> you're not aware of my use-case
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759[04:25:06] <greyeax> so your perception of my need for this
kind of security is not complete
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760[04:25:24] <RoyK> greyeax: I'm quite sure rather a lot
of people trust linux security as it is, including Snowden
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762[04:25:31] <missmbob> you could enlighten us
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763[04:25:34] <greyeax> linux is not secure by default
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764[04:25:42] <RoyK> nothing is
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765[04:26:00] <greyeax> missmbob: it's not really relevant
to my issue. you knowing why i need fully encrypted including /boot
does not change the fact that i need it
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767[04:26:29] <greyeax> Royk: which is why you take the steps to
do things correctly
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768[04:26:35] <RoyK> greyeax: just don't put it on a
separate partition - problem solved
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769[04:27:08] <greyeax> it's on a separate lvm partition
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770[04:27:16] <RoyK> and make sure to seal your laptop with some
sort of sealing tape to avoid someone breaking in
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771[04:27:16] <greyeax> the lvm partitions are inside the luks
encrypted segment
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772[04:27:25] <greyeax> meaning the initramfs needs to be able
to decrypt that first
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775[04:27:26] <RoyK> and disable boot from USB ports, or glue
them
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776[04:27:28] <greyeax> but it can't find it
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777[04:27:30] <xuhui> 😊
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779[04:27:39] <greyeax> so even if it wasn't on a separate
lvm partition, it wouldn't change anything
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780[04:28:18] <greyeax> i don't really understand why you
think security ridiculous, to be honest
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781[04:28:31] <RoyK> better yet, if you use a few tons of
concrete around your laptop and sink it at the bottom of the ocean,
remember to remove the battery, and perhaps the disk, then you have
a really secure laptop
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784[04:29:00] <greyeax> once again, you don't know my use
case
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785[04:29:05] <greyeax> you don't know who i do or
don't work for
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787[04:29:14] <greyeax> or what kind of information i'm
securing
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788[04:29:18] <greyeax> so please stop being rude
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791[04:29:45] <greyeax> i'm simply asking for some help,
not opinions on the necessity of what i'm trying to accomplish
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792[04:30:12] <RoyK> and what I'm saying is quite simple:
Put /boot on the root partition and just encrypt it all.
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793[04:30:30] <greyeax> i've explained this multiple times,
the /boot is simply an lvm partition
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794[04:30:34] <jmcnaught> greyeax: encrypted /boot is nice, but
a lot of effort for a little more protection against physical
tampering. If your machine is physically compromised, even with
encrypted /boot you could still be owned. The default with Debian
(unencrypted /boot) still prevents data loss if the computer is lost
or stolen.
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796[04:30:42] <greyeax> initramfs can't find the encrypted
primary partition
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797[04:30:42] <RoyK> greyeax: partition or lv
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798[04:30:46] <greyeax> which poot is in
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799[04:30:48] <greyeax> lv
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800[04:30:49] <RoyK> doesn't matter
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802[04:31:03] <RoyK> it's the filesystem that's
important
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803[04:31:10] <greyeax> it does, because if the initramfs
can't decrypt /dev/sda1, then it can't see the /boot in
the first place, or anything else
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804[04:31:12] <RoyK> whereever it resides
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805[04:31:20] <phagah> i use zram now though for most te
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to right, like on writer when you write a paragraph and align it to
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808[04:31:57] <RoyK> well, then put /boot on an usb stick or
three and use that to boot the system
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810[04:32:20] <greyeax> jmcnaught i understand this, but i
didn't come here to be told that i should not do what i'm
trying to do
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812[04:32:32] <greyeax> i came here for help asking how i can do
it, or rather, how i can fix a very specific problem
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815[04:33:13] <RoyK> I guess if you work for the NSA or
somewhere like that, there should be someone knowing those things
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816[04:33:49] <jmcnaught> greyeax: so i don't know all what
you've done, but it's grub that needs to unlock the
device. your initrd is loaded from /boot
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818[04:34:16] <greyeax> jmcnaught: grub has unlocked the device,
but as it is right now, the initramfs has to unlock it a second time
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819[04:34:29] <greyeax> it's just how it works at the
moment
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820[04:35:03] <jmcnaught> greyeax: and you're not getting a
chance to enter passphrase or something?
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821[04:35:08] <greyeax> basically, yes
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822[04:35:14] <greyeax> and the error that initramfs give sme
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823[04:35:16] <greyeax> *gives me
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825[04:35:22] <greyeax> is that it can't find the uuid of
the device
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826[04:35:36] <greyeax> but the uuid is the exact same uuid i
get when i run blkid on the live-usb
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827[04:35:42] <greyeax> so i know it's the right onw
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829[04:35:44] <jmcnaught> greyeax: do you have plymouth
installed?
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830[04:35:44] <greyeax> *one
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831[04:35:52] <greyeax> i do not, it's a bare bones debian
install
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832[04:36:45] <jmcnaught> greyeax:
replaced-url
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837[04:40:27] <greyeax_> jmcnaught: thank you! i think this
might be it
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838[04:40:33] <greyeax_> i'll give it a shot
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839[04:40:39] <greyeax_> i
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840[04:41:31] <jmcnaught> greyeax_: good luck. the reason people
here try to talk people out of encrypted boot is because most people
don't need it, and well people get annoying when their stuff
breaks.
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857[04:47:49] <Agafnd> when logging in, I have the options of
"System default", GNOME, GNOME Classic, GNOME on Wayland,
MATE, and Openbox. I only use MATE.
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858[04:48:09] <Agafnd> any tips on removing the others? removing
DEs is annoying
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861[04:53:34] <jmcnaught> Agafnd: it's something you need
to do carefully. apt-get and aptitude both have '-s'
options to simulate/dry-run (don't even need to be root)
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862[04:54:28] <jmcnaught> Agafnd: if you installed gnome with
the tasksel dialog in the installer, you could try "aptitude -s
remove task-gnome-desktop" and see what it would do
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863[04:54:53] <missmbob> i wish dpkg had an etcher factoid.
anyone know how it works with debian images?
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864[04:55:20] <greyeax_> jmcnaught: thanks. however, maybe those
who find helping people annoying should not be in a help channel
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865[04:55:21] <greyeax_> just saying
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867[04:56:13] <jmcnaught> greyeax_: it's good support to
steer people away from overengineering if possible
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869[04:56:16] <Agafnd> jmcnaught: apparently that won't do
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871[04:56:39] <jmcnaught> Agafnd: try adding gnome and
gnome-core to the list of packages to remove
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879[05:00:10] <cast> do you want to actually uninstall stuff or
just clean up your DM menu?
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880[05:00:10] <jmcnaught> Agafnd: nothing at all? making pastes
with the command and output would help
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883[05:01:26] <Agafnd> jmcnaught: ran "aptitude -s remove
task-gnome-desktop gnome gnome-core | nc termbin.com 9999", got
"replaced-url
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884[05:01:55] <Agafnd> cast: I do want to uninstall stuff as my
root partition is rather small
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886[05:02:17] <jmcnaught> Agafnd: how did you install gnome
then? or are those metapackages already removed?
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889[05:03:29] <Agafnd> jmcnaught: it installed with the system.
Those may have already been removed along with a few default GNOME
apps I uninstalled
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890[05:03:57] <cast> next time, don't opt to install a
desktop environment during the install :)
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892[05:04:54] <Agafnd> cast: at the time, I didn't know
what I was doing and thought "oh, well gnome must be a good
place to start"
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895[05:05:42] <jmcnaught> Agafnd: what does "aptitude -s
remove ~i~n^gnome" want to do?
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896[05:07:10] <Agafnd> jmcnaught: it wants to remove a lot of
stuff. want me to pastebin it?
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897[05:07:43] <jmcnaught> Agafnd: sure. the important thing is
for you to read what it wants to remove, and verify that nothing you
still need is on the list
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899[05:08:30] <jmcnaught> Agafnd: that search expression means
"is installed and name starts with gnome" by the way.
replaced-url
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904[05:09:16] <Agafnd> jmcnaught:
replaced-url
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905[05:09:22] <jmcnaught> apt: forget You
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906[05:09:22] <apt> i didn't have anything called
'you' to forget, jmcnaught
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928[05:27:26] <somiaj> missmbob: oh boy etcher.io, semms foo.io
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929[05:27:49] <missmbob> yeah :P
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code and i'm even more confused. guess i'll just try it on
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941[05:35:45] <somiaj> missmbob: I belive the most common thing
that gets messed up with third party programs like that is when the
installer tries to detect the cdrom and cannot. Many times it will
boot.
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942[05:36:30] <jmcnaught> i think unetbootin-alikes can also
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944[05:37:31] <missmbob> anyway i'll add a factoid once
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1049[06:46:39] <bibble_> in a tmux session, and would like to
'su different_user; tmux attach'... but how, or best way ?
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1050[06:46:49] <bibble_> tmux nesting seems messy
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1053[06:48:57] <catbeard> so i did `systemctl enable
mumble-server.service`, rebooted and nothing, i still have to
execute `murmurd` to get mumble-server to start
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1054[06:48:59] <catbeard> `service mumble-server start`, and
`systemctl start mumble-server.service` doesn't seem to work
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1056[06:49:17] <jmcnaught> bibble_: is this to have a shared
shell session with another person?
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1057[06:49:23] <somiaj> catbeard: sure the service has the
correct name? Check its status, systemctl status mumble-server
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1059[06:49:48] <cast> there's a tmux channel with over 300
people in it, fwiw
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1062[06:51:29] <bibble_> jmcnaught: kind of,. a user is running
an app in tmux session, and I need to check it out, multi-tasking on
same ssh session at the time
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1064[06:51:47] <bibble_> ok, thanks cast. good point, will check
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1066[06:52:26] <bibble_> just wasn't sure if easy way of
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1067[06:52:35] <jmcnaught> bibble_: right, #tmux is a good place
to ask. if your answer was no and you were trying to run a daemon or
something, i'd suggest not tmux
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1068[06:53:00] <bibble_> right. thanks jmcnaught
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1071[06:54:47] <bibble_> catbeard: perhaps you have to
'systemctl start mumble-server.service' also, before
rebooting.. ?
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1074[06:55:42] <bibble_> see if 'start' even activates
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1102[07:13:25] <catbeard> it says active (exited)
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1103[07:13:31] <catbeard> but the process is running, ports are
listening
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torrent client set up so that it quits automatically if you get
disconnected from your VPN ?
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mumble-server user didn't have read permissions to
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1170[08:04:59] <jorgebueno> I have a problem with LDAP, It was
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1173[08:05:34] <jorgebueno> any idea?
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1192[08:13:07] <Ironmal> Angry ebony mistress whips the face of
her slave mercilessly
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1197[08:16:09] <Ironmal> "Amazed over that cruel rage. Just
loved it !!" "too cruel for me, but i must admit, it makes
me rockhard" "So hot. So brutal. Sadistic sexually cruelty
makes me load so fucking hard."
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1201[08:17:00] <daniel-s> It must be his particular fetish.
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1203[08:17:28] <Ironmal> daniel-s, it's about affirmative
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1204[08:17:45] <francoisk> sure it is
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testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
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1292[09:08:17] <jaggz> any of you have problems with getting
windows appearance frozen, flickering -- old display of desktop...
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1293[09:08:20] <jaggz> in kde
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1295[09:08:46] <jaggz> I have to toggle desktop effects to fix it
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1300[09:09:45] <jaggz> like right now I disabled desktop effects,
to unfreeze a window, and it fixed that, but without effects on I am
seeing a time of 7:48pm (when it's 12:09am)
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stretch, only used nvidia and non-free drivers though (that I
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1413[09:59:09] <hansol> hello, how to configure ddns
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1414[10:01:07] <cybiko123> hansol: Are you trying to use a DDNS
provider? Or roll your own solution?
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1421[10:02:15] <hansol> cybiko123: my isp give my own ddns
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1424[10:02:53] <cybiko123> Who's your ISP?
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1425[10:03:18] <hansol> cybiko123: blizoo
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1426[10:03:56] <hansol> cybiko123: i have ddns now what ?
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1428[10:04:02] <hansol> cybiko123: how to configure it ?
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1433[10:05:49] <cybiko123> Hmm, not sure about them. How would
you configure it on another OS? If they have a client, you'll
either need to run it in WINE or figure out its protocol.
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1442[10:10:46] <ceegee> good morning
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1445[10:13:26] <ceegee> I have found the hardening guide
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1454[10:18:46] <ksk> ceegee: go for it, its probably state of the
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1476[10:25:49] <ceegee> ksk: thanks
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1478[10:26:15] <KablammoNick> Having issues with really slow
apt-get updates. Have tried a few troubleshooting things locally
(different cable, switch port, restarted router), using
DietPi's latest image on a Pine64. Kinda stuck as to where to
from here, ideas?
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1481[10:26:36] <willemb> Is there a special channel for
debian-lts?
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1483[10:26:50] <KablammoNick> sorry, on jessie. Raspberry Pi 2 on
Wheezy working super quick for updates.
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1490[10:27:31] <guillaumedc> Hi
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1491[10:27:53] <guillaumedc> I have a problem qith my term and I
don't know how to solve it
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1493[10:28:35] <guillaumedc> I use colours in prompt and for
commands outputs (such as ls)
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1495[10:29:11] <guillaumedc> but when there are colours inside
paths, characters are set in bold and the string is cut
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1497[10:29:36] <guillaumedc> probably because bold fonts does not
have the same weight than regular ones
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1498[10:29:46] <guillaumedc> do you know how can I fix it?
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1499[10:30:05] <cybiko123> KablammoNick: Same mirror?
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1500[10:30:08] <guillaumedc> same width, sorry
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1507[10:35:02] <mohammad-ghasemi> what is the package for the
standard ml language in debian? thankyou!
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1508[10:35:07] <KablammoNick> cybiko123: honestly I don't
know how to tell. it seems to always refer to ftp.debian.org in the
SSH terminal... DietPi is set to use mirrordirector.debian.org by
the looks.
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1511[10:36:06] <KablammoNick> I was reading how to force it to a
different mirror, but not sure if that would break DietPi's own
update system.
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1512[10:36:44] <cybiko123> mirrordirector.debian.org doesn't
seem to resolve
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1514[10:37:05] <themill> Sounds like raspbian not debian
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1515[10:37:13] <cybiko123> ^
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1518[10:38:03] <themill> (or maybe some other derivative... but
not debian)
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1519[10:38:16] <cybiko123> Are you sure it isn't
mirrordirector.raspian.org?
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1520[10:38:33] <cybiko123> raspbian*
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1525[10:40:29] <guillaumedc> Problem solved: it is due to my font
used locally on client (SSH). Sorry for the noise.
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1527[10:40:55] <KablammoNick> cybiko123: you're correct,
i'm an idiot.
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1528[10:40:59] <KablammoNick> raspbian.
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1530[10:41:32] <cybiko123> No worries
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1532[10:41:53] <KablammoNick> off to #raspbian with me, thanks.
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1558[11:03:47] <jesk> what could be the that ssh -X takes
reaaally long until the connection gets established?
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1565[11:06:05] <sine0> I want to make an install script to get my
server how i like it, over the years I have manually done it soooo
many times, my question is does anyone know off the top of their
head if the mysql installation can be done blind or with -y because
it asks questions during install
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1574[11:11:11] <babilen> sine0: I would recommend to look into
tools such as SaltStack or ansible for that
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1580[11:12:32] <jelly> propellor !
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1583[11:13:40] <jelly> sine0: you can preseed its debconf
questions with answers I guess (mysql root password, and that stuff)
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1584[11:13:47] <jelly> !preseed
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1586[11:13:47] <dpkg> [preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set
answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process,
to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The
<install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding
with a full example. See
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1588[11:14:23] <jelly> erh. The same prefilling of debconf
database can also work after installation.
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1595[11:19:31] <pingfloyd> like this: sudo debconf-set-selections
<<< 'mysql-server-5.6 mysql-server/root_password
password your_password';sudo debconf-set-selections
<<< 'mysql-server-5.6 mysql-server/root_password_again
password your_password'; sudo apt-get -y install mysql-server
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1596[11:19:53] <pingfloyd> follow the same logic for any other
debconf selection you want to set
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1602[11:26:14] <sine0> ok babilen and jelly thanks for that ino
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1603[11:26:15] <sine0> info
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1631[11:50:17] <KennyTalker> Foreskin Amputation-History &
Ramifications [Urban Jungle Girl]
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1646[11:57:31] <Idiosyncratic> Ok, did someone just break ncmpcpp
in sid?
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1664[12:08:46] <dullbozwr> "Your worst enemy is not Jews,
White Man, but your own females.” -- Andrew Anglin, publisher
of the #1 Alt Right website
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1667[12:10:34] <wibrt> any good suggestions for migrating from
evolution to thunderbird (maildir++ (with subdirs/maps) > mbox) ?
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1674[12:12:04] <jim> (I know... offtopic... but,) any brasilian
speakers can help out for a minute on ##linux?
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1677[12:12:49] <jim> no need to reply, just join us if
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1716[12:29:54] <yottanami> I want to create a file on current
directory that is `drwxr-xr-x 5
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1717[12:29:57] <boxrick1> Good morning, I am trying to set up a
RAID 1 - MDADM volume in my preseed file between the first 2 disks
on my system. Is there a simple way of doing this someone can point
me at as an example.
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1719[12:30:35] <yottanami> but the current user is member of
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1727[12:35:33] <cybiko123> yottanami: drwxr-xr-x means that the
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1764[13:00:51] <kidney_thief_> hi, does anyone have problems with
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1766[13:01:02] <kidney_thief_> my laptop stopped resuming
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1767[13:01:12] <kidney_thief_> during the resume process it
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1769[13:01:26] <kidney_thief_> hard to debug, since no logs are
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1772[13:02:23] <wibrt> pingfloyd: client side: evolution to
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how do I pass the -j4 flag?
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1844[13:58:44] <Idiosyncratic> Gah, nevermind
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1935[14:39:44] <Ooze> I'm trying to list files with a
creation date of today, so far I've got
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1938[14:39:47] <Ooze> find /media/michigan/Music/ -type f -exec
ls -ltr "{}" +;
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1939[14:40:01] <Ooze> How can I adjust this so I can filter out
folders created on Oct 4?
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1942[14:41:25] <themill> creation date won't fly;
modification time (mtime) find can do directly
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1943[14:41:31] <Zer0Pings> Ooze: ls -lhp | grep $(date
<configs so it prints out Oct 4)
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1944[14:41:34] <Ooze> That works too
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1948[14:43:07] <themill> parsing the output of ls is a mug's
game
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1951[14:44:18] <Ooze> So now I've got 'ls -lhp
/media/michigan/Music/ | grep Oct', how can I define the day?
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1954[14:44:39] <Zer0Pings> Ooze: append 4 lol
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1956[14:45:03] <Zer0Pings> ls -lh /media/michigan/Music/ | grep
"Oct 4"
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1959[14:45:35] <Ooze> That doesn't yield anything, but if I
do just Oct I see an Oct 4
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1960[14:45:57] <themill> Ooze: what are you actually wanting to
achieve here btw?
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1962[14:46:20] <Ooze> Trying to parse today's downloaded
music files into beet, my music library tool
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1964[14:46:42] <themill> So you want files only and things
modified today?
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1965[14:47:01] <Ooze> Yes
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1967[14:47:16] <Ooze> Well, directories would actually be
preferred I think
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1969[14:47:31] <themill> you said earlier you wanted to remove
them?
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1971[14:47:59] <Ooze>
replaced-url
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1972[14:48:01] <themill> Please don't try parsing the output
of ls, it will end badly. Use the tools that are designed for this
task. find . -daystart -mtime -1 -type d
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1976[14:49:15] <marcoNL> I'm trying to set up a system where
I can put a mac address in a configuration on a tftp server and have
that system select a installation via pxe that is selected from the
mac address of the client.
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1977[14:49:29] <marcoNL> can someone point me in the right
direction, or isn't this possible at all?
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1988[14:52:48] <Somelauw> Is there a simple keylogger in the
standard repositories to improve my workflow? Find out which keys I
use most often?
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1993[14:55:18] <marcoNL> Nice political way to ask how to install
a keylogger on your partners workstation... ;-)
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1995[14:56:20] <Somelauw> that would be their fault for always
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1997[14:56:28] <Ooze> themill, how can I run that command and
exclude the current directory in the output?
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2000[14:57:17] <themill> Ooze: assuming you don't have any
.directories, "find *" instead
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2001[14:57:51] <Ooze> gotcha
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2004[14:58:20] <themill> or skip the first entry. Do be careful
with all these paths with spaces in them...
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2005[14:58:25] <Ooze> So I need to pipe the results of that into
'beet import [output]'
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2006[14:58:48] <themill> it accepts a list on stdin?
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2009[14:59:13] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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2010[14:59:16] <themill> it assumes that the paths are \n
delimited? I look forward to breaking that...
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2011[14:59:38] <tobiasBora> I bough for 2$ an adaptator Kontron
(Industrial Computer Source / ICS Advent) DM9601 Fast Ethernet
Adapter
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2013[14:59:51] <themill> Ooze: or is it actually wanting a list
of command line options?
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2014[15:01:08] <tobiasBora> It works pretty well under debian,
but when I use speedtest to test my connection I cannot reach more
than 5Mbps in both download and upload, while with my ethernet card
I can jump to 15Mbps in download and more than 98Mbps in upload (the
night I can even reach 98Mbps in both download and upload).
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2021[15:02:49] <tobiasBora> Since this Usb <--> Ethernet
adapter is supposed to run at 100Mbps (and indeed ethtools gives me
"Speed: 100Mb/s, Duplex: Full"), I don't understand
why I can't reach more than 5Mbps.
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2024[15:03:30] <newbsduser> hello guys. i deleted a folder with:
rm -fr 2016/
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2025[15:03:37] <newbsduser> is there a way to recover files
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2027[15:03:46] <newbsduser> :( without unmount file system...
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2028[15:03:49] <newbsduser> it s a vps on linde
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2029[15:03:51] <newbsduser> linode
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2034[15:05:31] <izua> tobiasBora: because regular USB2 has like
480Mbps total speed, and with the protocol overhead and whatnot you
_might_ reach around half of that
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2037[15:06:11] <izua> ethtools can only show you the flags the
NIC reports, it doesn't mean that's the max speed you will
reach
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2038[15:06:25] <tobiasBora> izua: I don't follow you :
480Mbs (even divided by 2) is much greater than 100Mbps right ?
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2039[15:06:32] <themill> newbsduser: think of this as a way of
checking how good your backups are
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2040[15:06:34] <izua> also, most usb-eth adapters I ran into were
shitty
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2042[15:06:53] <izua> the only good one I have is some
USB3-gigabit one. It doesn't do gigabit, but it does somewhere
in the range of 40MBps
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2044[15:07:00] <izua> it should, you'd imagine it that way
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2045[15:07:03] <izua> but idk
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2047[15:07:28] <newbsduser> there is no backup :8
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2049[15:07:50] <themill> well at least you now know why you
should have one
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2051[15:08:14] <newbsduser> i losted 1 month data
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2053[15:08:19] <newbsduser> :((((
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2056[15:08:44] <newbsduser> i think ext4 should support rollback
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2057[15:08:46] <newbsduser> operation
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2058[15:08:48] <tobiasBora> newbsduser: Why can't you
remount it using things like mount -o remount,ro /dev/sdX1 ?
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2059[15:09:03] <newbsduser> it is rootfs of vps
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2060[15:09:19] <newbsduser> production system
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2062[15:09:45] <TomTomTosch> there are things like extundelete,
no guarantees, though.
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2065[15:11:28] <TomTomTosch> not on a mounted partition, though.
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2069[15:12:12] <Ooze> themill, each on a new line
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2071[15:12:38] <izua> newbsduser: if you wrote to that fs in the
meantime
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2072[15:12:45] <izua> you can consider that data gone
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2074[15:13:03] <puke> Vomit puke hurl
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2075[15:13:16] <puke> barf, blow chunks, toss cookies
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2076[15:13:19] <tobiasBora> izua: So a NIC can agreed with an
access point to connect with 100Mbps, but speak with a lower rate ?
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2077[15:13:44] <izua> tobiasBora: ofc
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2078[15:13:48] <izua> if half of your packets drop
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2079[15:13:58] <petn-randall> puke: Do you have a Debian support
question? If not, please be quiet.
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2080[15:14:09] <izua> or for some reason, it waits for the usb
host to send data, which it does slowly
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2081[15:14:16] <izua> it will still put each packet at 100MBps
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2082[15:14:19] <izua> Mbps*
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2083[15:14:21] <puke> gag, wretch
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2084[15:14:26] <puke> spew, heave, chunder
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2085[15:14:26] <izua> but it will do so, say, every second
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2086[15:14:44] <izua> one packet, wait, one more packet, etc;
thus the total overall speed will decrease
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2087[15:14:49] <izua> if it's waiting for some buffer to
fill, for example
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2088[15:14:51] <tobiasBora> izua: Hum ok it's clearer now.
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2090[15:15:04] <izua> if it's a $10 converter, it will be
shitty
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2091[15:15:14] <tobiasBora> izua: It's a $2 converter
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2092[15:15:17] <izua> the only advantage of those is that you can
easily change mac addresses
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2093[15:15:27] <izua> some NICs won't allow that easily
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2094[15:15:29] <izua> _some_
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2098[15:16:26] <tobiasBora> izua: For 2$ It's not a big
pain, and 5Mbps is not too bad. But I'm curious to see if the
speed is the same on Windows.
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2101[15:17:11] <izua> there are a lots of issues with usb/eth
thingies
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2102[15:17:21] <izua> i'm not sure of the driver specifics,
but most drivers do polling
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2104[15:17:42] <izua> there's an isochronous mode (like for
studio grade audio gear) but even like that, it will be slow
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2105[15:17:49] <izua> so i'd rather just use the onboard
ones
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2106[15:18:03] <themill> Ooze: the man page seems to indicate it
should be given on the command line not on stdin
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2112[15:20:26] <tobiasBora> izua: But usb is interesting for two
things : when your ethernet plug is broken (it's the case of a
friend), and when you have only one ethernet cable and you want to
use it as a rooter/firewall (things I would like to study later).
But maybe playing with tag vlan can allow me to use only one
ethernet card...
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2115[15:21:40] <izua> haha
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2116[15:21:42] <izua> true
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2117[15:21:54] <izua> if you want to play with networking though
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2118[15:21:58] <izua> you might consider a dedicated box or a vm
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2119[15:22:04] <izua> much more satisfying to see actual traffic
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2120[15:22:07] <tobiasBora> newbsduser: I you use "fuser -v
-m /", kill/stop every process that use it, and then run
/bin/mount -no remount,ro /dev/sda2 ?
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2121[15:22:16] <izua> some routers also have linux on them, or
can get a version of it, like ddw-rt
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2122[15:22:27] <Ooze> themill, Oh okay, so I should export it to
a file and somehow pull from there?
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2124[15:22:44] <tobiasBora> (the -n option is used to avoid write
in /etc/mtab)
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2125[15:22:45] <hellyeah> anyone use brackets.io here?
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2126[15:23:02] <newbsduser> tobiasBora: i ll use dd if of over
ssh
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2130[15:23:37] <tobiasBora> newbsduser: Ok. dd can work with
mounted devices in reading ?
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2132[15:24:22] <themill> Ooze: no, find has an -exec option for
you
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2133[15:24:37] <themill> !using find
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2134[15:24:38] <dpkg> somebody said using find was
replaced-url
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2136[15:24:39] <newbsduser> iam not sure about that tobiasBora
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2138[15:27:12] <newbsduser> ssh kale "dd if=/dev/sda | gzip
-1 -" | dd of=sda.gz
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2139[15:27:19] <newbsduser> tried to get remote backup to local
disk
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2140[15:27:21] <tobiasBora> izua: a VM ? how could it solve this
problem ?
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2143[15:28:08] <izua> it won't. you just said you wnt to
play with networking
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2147[15:29:20] <KB3VGW> hey guys
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2149[15:29:24] <KB3VGW> having a issue
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2150[15:29:43] <KB3VGW> ' lsmod | grep -q snd_foo
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2151[15:30:12] <KB3VGW> echo $? only shows 1 when there are 2
sound cards
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2153[15:30:53] <Ooze> themill, Do something like 'find
/media/michigan/Music/* -daystart -mtime -1 -type d -exec beet
import "{}";
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2154[15:30:53] <Ooze> ' ??
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2156[15:31:37] <themill> Ooze: I'd end in + not ; as it can
import multiple paths at once. Also it would have to be \; not ; so
the shell doesn't eat it anyway
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2157[15:31:57] <teraflops> oh beets ♥
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2158[15:32:06] <KB3VGW> pi@your-repeater:~ $ lsusb
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2159[15:32:06] <KB3VGW> Bus 001 Device 010: ID 0d8c:000c C-Media
Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter
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2160[15:32:06] <KB3VGW> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0d8c:000c C-Media
Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter
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2163[15:33:28] <hellyeah> i need help
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2164[15:33:55] <KB3VGW> I need a way to detect the sound cards
and list them in bash
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2166[15:34:28] <hellyeah> i have to install brackets.io
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2167[15:34:37] <Ooze> harley@reagan:~$ find
/media/michigan/Music/* -daystart -mtime -1 -type d -exec beet
import "{}"+
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2168[15:34:37] <Ooze> find: missing argument to `-exec'
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2169[15:34:41] <Ooze> Am I stupid?
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2175[15:35:52] <petemc> Ooze: you dont need to quote {}, also put
a space after it, like so: {} +
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2177[15:36:07] <teraflops> KB3VGW: mind sharing the output of
`head -1 /etc/os-release` ?
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2180[15:37:52] <Ooze> Groovy, it works
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2190[15:40:03] <tobiasBora> izua: Oh ok. Well yes I already
played a bit with VM and DNS/LDAP/other funny things before, and VM
are really usefull for that !
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2202[15:43:52] <jhutchins> KB3VGW: Your command doesn't do
what you think it does.
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2204[15:44:15] <KB3VGW> ok
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2205[15:44:16] <jhutchins> KB3VGW: The lsmod ... echo one.
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2207[15:45:05] <KB3VGW> let me paste what I have
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2209[15:46:30] <jhutchins> KB3VGW: What's wrong with lsusb?
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2211[15:47:23] <KB3VGW> it does the same thing
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2213[15:47:40] <jhutchins> KB3VGW: Check the EXIT STATUS portion
of man grep.
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2235[15:56:28] <KB3VGW> ok so aplay -l shows card 0 and card 1
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2238[15:56:44] <KB3VGW> so th idea is to grab the nmbr of cards
and then generate a menu option
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2240[15:57:19] <KB3VGW>
replaced-url
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2241[15:57:30] <KB3VGW> so then this has a issue
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2249[16:00:00] <KB3VGW> jhutchins, thats the code
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2250[16:00:15] <KB3VGW> it was writen by a coder wthat left we
are trying to fix it
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2251[16:00:28] <KB3VGW> its for a repeaterintefaces
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2259[16:03:01] <unborn> :) I love posts like that one lol
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2260[16:03:27] <teraflops> idk I do not click on pastebin.com
links
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2261[16:04:06] <KB3VGW> jhutchins, any input on this ?
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2263[16:04:18] <unborn> teraflops: why not? i mean - i would like
to know my self..
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2265[16:04:26] <teraflops> also pi@host looks like it's not
debian and i looks like he is trying to fix a script s oI wonder how
it is debian related
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2266[16:04:34] <teraflops> s/i/it*
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2267[16:04:47] <KB3VGW> its debian arm
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2268[16:04:53] <teraflops> unborn: I already told you
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2269[16:04:57] <KB3VGW> its a rm device
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2270[16:05:08] <teraflops> ah the pi@ fooled me
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2271[16:05:11] <unborn> teraflops: ah js? is that?
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2274[16:05:51] <linux__> Hi
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2275[16:05:58] <linux__> I'm trying run a program by another
user but there is an error message says: " /usr/bin/kate:
cannot execute binary file " >> I have used this command
"su - linux - kate "
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2276[16:06:22] <linux__> ?
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2277[16:06:32] <unborn> linux__: permissions?
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2279[16:06:40] <unborn> check that
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2280[16:07:10] <teraflops> unborn: Pastebin.com is swamped with
advertisements and random captchas. Malware found on pastebin.com
has resulted in it being blocked for some users. It injects CRLF
line-endings.
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2281[16:07:23] <unborn> ah missed the point.. su.. well - speak
to dev of that program
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2283[16:07:41] <KB3VGW> I use pastebin.ca
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2284[16:07:44] <KB3VGW> not com
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2285[16:07:52] <KB3VGW> its cleaner
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2287[16:07:59] <MickyW> teraflops: Just saw your remark about
pastebin. Would you please explain?
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2288[16:08:00] <teraflops> same shit I guess
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2289[16:08:04] <KB3VGW> no
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2291[16:08:20] <teraflops> KB3VGW: ok
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2292[16:08:20] <KB3VGW> no adds
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2294[16:08:31] <unborn> teraflops: sure.. I hate it as well.. I
was just being curios about my paste which use js for enctyption on
fly in browser - like if there is any reason.. yeah I do not use
paste bin for very same reason like you.
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2297[16:09:18] <KB3VGW> where else to paste then
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2301[16:09:31] <unborn> MickyW: which part of teraflops 's
post you did not understand? (and why we all use alternatives like
own paste bins etc...)
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2302[16:09:33] <KB3VGW> the pastebin is there for use
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replaced-url
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replaced-url
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2308[16:10:13] <MickyW> unborn: Missed that from 16:07. So answer
was already given.
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2310[16:10:38] <unborn> MickyW: oh.. sorry about that..
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2311[16:10:43] <teraflops> KB3VGW: the amount of js and also
cloudflare shit there (.ca one) is too much for my liking, but yeah
I was talking about pastebin.com
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2316[16:12:19] <KB3VGW> lsmod | grep -q snd_foo
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2317[16:12:24] <KB3VGW> seems to be the issue
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2318[16:12:37] <linux__> unborn I entered the password , I have
the permission.
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2321[16:13:14] <KB3VGW> even with lsusb I get the same
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2323[16:13:26] <unborn> is there any reason to use cloudflare
shit? many people asking about it.. like if I use it but - what it
is really for? like ddoss protection or something?
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2325[16:14:38] <unborn> linux__: I already said - aint read your
message properly on first time.. you run it as root.. well... its
ill advice however if the program does not work for you as it
supposed to, feel free to contact dev of that program for support..
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2328[16:14:43] <unborn> dev = developer
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2329[16:14:51] <abrotman> unborn: how is this related to Debian?
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2332[16:15:06] <unborn> abrotman: which post ?
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2333[16:15:18] <abrotman> unborn: AKA, ask #cloudflare
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2334[16:15:24] <linux__> How I can run a program by another user
?
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2336[16:15:34] <unborn> abrotman: ah I see.. it was side note..
sorry
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2340[16:15:57] <KB3VGW> ok back to issue at hand getting this
code to detect the sound cards correctly
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2342[16:16:06] <abrotman> linux__: su,sudo,sux,gksu .. ton's
of ways
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2343[16:16:10] <abrotman> tons ..
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2344[16:16:14] <linux__> " su -user "command"
" <<< Is it true ?
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2345[16:16:16] <abrotman> !apostrophesmite me
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2346[16:16:17] * dpkg smite's abrotman with a plague of extraneous
apostrophe's.
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2347[16:16:29] <abrotman> linux__: su - user "commad"
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2352[16:17:29] <linux__> ok , but I got this message : "
/usr/bin/kate: cannot execute binary file"
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2354[16:17:46] <linux__> ?
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2356[16:18:33] <unborn> linux__: I would still suggest to contact
the dev of that program.. if it will not run as root then it wont
run as an any user.
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2364[16:19:52] <linux__> unborn the programe is kate .
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2367[16:20:16] <unborn> linux__: yeah I did realised that already
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2372[16:20:54] <themill> Don't run kate as root; don't
try running X programs as other users like that
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2373[16:20:55] <linux__> I can't run any program by other
user .
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2374[16:21:46] <unborn> woah - im out :D
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2376[16:22:06] <KB3VGW> you should use xdm
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2377[16:22:25] <teraflops> really?
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2378[16:22:33] <stoned> xdm > win
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2379[16:22:45] <stoned> simple, easy, fast. no fuss, no muss
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2385[16:23:29] <teraflops> ಠ_à²
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2389[16:24:59] <KB3VGW> whats the best way with aplay -l to grab
the nmbr of cards
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2390[16:25:01] <KB3VGW> I know it does card 0 and card 1
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2391[16:25:22] <KB3VGW> but I need to get this code working
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2393[16:25:49] <KB3VGW> this guy left the code and left the
project
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2395[16:26:04] <unborn> KB3VGW: - the reason?
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2399[16:26:20] <unborn> im sure he did not left it alone for no
reason.. :)
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2400[16:26:20] <KB3VGW> as it is its only listing 1 sound card
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2401[16:27:01] <KB3VGW> he left becuase he no longer had time to
work on the project
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2403[16:27:17] <KB3VGW> its opensource
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2405[16:28:42] <KB3VGW> his job an other things got in the way
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2406[16:28:42] <KB3VGW>
replaced-url
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2407[16:28:45] <themill> It looks like the sort of code that
would make sane people shove knives into toasters
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2408[16:29:00] <unborn> KB3VGW: - bollox.. (I am hoping I will
not get banned for this) - true - devs loves opensourced projects..
where else you can get top star glimpse out then on open sourced
project! - can you give us link to repo of your opensourced private
(or be it public - on github) repos? code would help..
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2409[16:29:54] <nkuttler> wasn't there a package that runs
some scripts depending on which network i just connect to?
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2410[16:30:03] <unborn> in end of the day - we are all open
sourced here
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2412[16:30:33] <themill> nkuttler: whereami (hooks from ifupdown
or n-m can also do this easily enough)
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2414[16:31:01] <nkuttler> themill: thanks
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2419[16:31:56] <KB3VGW> unborn gitbub.com/kb3vgw/
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2420[16:32:10] <KB3VGW> all the code for the projeccts are there
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2421[16:32:35] <KB3VGW> anything thats svxlink releated
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2425[16:32:46] <KB3VGW> is what I am working on
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2426[16:33:05] <unborn> KB3VGW: well.. it gives me adverts.. not
even links to your 'open sourced' profile.. im sorry - can
you give out proper git link out?
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2429[16:33:33] <themill> s/b/h, fairly obviously
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2432[16:35:56] <th0r> KB3VGW, you misspelled github
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2434[16:36:27] <unborn> th0r: its obvious.... let him to correct
it :)
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2436[16:36:48] <KB3VGW> lol
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2438[16:37:02] <KB3VGW> fat fingers
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2441[16:37:26] <th0r> KB3VGW, kd5tqy
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2442[16:38:08] <KB3VGW>
replaced-url
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2450[16:40:05] <iamawesome> i A libcanberra-gtk-module -
translates GTK+ widgets signals to event sounds
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2451[16:40:11] <iamawesome> What doess A mean?
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2452[16:40:21] <abrotman> iamawesome: man dpkg
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2455[16:40:48] <abrotman> sorry, probably man aptitude in that
case
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2457[16:41:35] <unborn> KB3VGW: now we are talking.. well.. - i
strongly suggest you to contact dev kate or your dev.. really I do
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2458[16:41:41] <KB3VGW> the dir with the working menu I am
working on is Svxlink-Menu
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2459[16:41:42] <KB3VGW> kd5tqy nice to meet you
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2460[16:41:42] <KB3VGW> we developed 2 reperter interface boards
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2461[16:41:43] <KB3VGW> and this menu is to help configure them
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2463[16:41:48] <iamawesome> Automatically installed?
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2465[16:42:13] <themill> yes
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2477[16:45:21] <KB3VGW> I maintain most the code
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2478[16:45:22] <KB3VGW> other people add items
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2479[16:45:23] <KB3VGW> like the sound function
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2480[16:45:24] <KB3VGW> but the guy left as he had no more time
to help and now I am left to fix it
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2482[16:45:43] <sm00th> hello all
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2483[16:45:54] <izua> hi2u2
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2495[16:49:54] <hmpf1> Hello everybody.
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2496[16:49:54] <hmpf1> What would be the best way to control
network settings (like dhcp, link local , static) from within an
application.
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2497[16:50:23] <hmpf1> the application does not run a root.
setting the ip,mask, gateway may work with capabilities.
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2498[16:50:38] <hmpf1> but dhcpcd (for example) need to be run as
root as well.
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2502[16:51:57] <teraflops> you mean something like network
manager?
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2504[16:52:20] <hmpf1> basically. i have a non-gui embedded
system.
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2505[16:52:21] <DelphiWorld> hello debianists
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2507[16:52:30] <DelphiWorld> for whois, the .pro domain whois
server is old.
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2508[16:52:30] <teraflops> hmpf1: use nmtui then
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2510[16:52:34] <DelphiWorld> it should be updated
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2514[16:52:54] <greycat> DelphiWorld: file a bug report
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2515[16:53:16] <DelphiWorld> ok greycat
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2516[16:53:16] <DelphiWorld> thx
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2519[16:54:21] <hmpf1> i want to control from within the
application. in c. nmtui seems like an interactive cli tool.
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2521[16:54:46] <teraflops> hmpf1: sorry I dont get the
*application* bit
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2522[16:54:57] <greycat> I think he's trying to write his
very *own* nmtui.
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2525[16:55:25] <teraflops> hmpf1: nm-cli then
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2526[16:55:29] * greycat has never used NM before, does not want to,
and has no idea how it works. Does nmtui communicate with a daemon?
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2527[16:55:59] <teraflops> hmpf1: anyway I dont get what you want
so I'm going for more coffee
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2530[16:56:15] <TomTomTosch> KB3VGW: why do you bother with the
sound card and don't use something that is higher level? debian
uses pulseaudio by default and libs like gstreamer lave modules that
autodetect the sound server.
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2532[16:56:30] <teraflops> greycat: nmtui is like nm-applet
thingy but cli
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2533[16:56:34] <TomTomTosch> s/lave/have/
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2534[16:56:44] <KB3VGW> os
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2535[16:56:44] <KB3VGW> so
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2537[16:56:55] <greycat> teraflops: which might make sense if I
knew how nm-applet worked
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2538[16:57:01] <teraflops> ah heh
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2545[16:58:56] <hmpf1> ok, some more context: my own process is
running and controls the whole device. user interaction with a touch
screen. the user can switch between static ip, dhcp with link local,
and dhcp with a fallback to a static ip.
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2546[16:58:56] <hmpf1> the whole thing is embedded, so I would
not mind keeping it small.
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2547[16:58:57] <teraflops> greycat: if you can see little videos
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2549[16:59:26] <hmpf1> that process has no root rights. does
nmcli work anyway?
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2551[16:59:44] <abrotman> greycat: someday, you'll have to
give up your 10Base2
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2554[17:00:13] <greycat> teraflops: I'm not interested in
how the little blinky lights work. I just want to know whether the
applet runs with elevated privileges so that it can diddle the
interfaces itself, or if it just communicates with a daemon that
does it.
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2558[17:00:54] <teraflops> greycat: NM runs as daemon, so yes
it's an inteface
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2559[17:00:55] <KB3VGW> because this is base debian only no gui
desktop
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2560[17:00:59] <teraflops> interface*
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2562[17:01:03] <KB3VGW> alsa
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2564[17:01:21] <KB3VGW> its kept bsaic and clean
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2568[17:01:48] <greycat> So the answer for hmpf1 is to figure out
the communication protocol that the nm-* interfaces use to tell the
daemon which wires to cross
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2569[17:02:06] <teraflops> hence nm-cli for non interactive
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2570[17:02:18] <teraflops> (I guess)
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2572[17:02:30] <greycat> Or to make system() calls to this nm-cli
thing, possibly.
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2575[17:02:42] <hmpf1> i would still have to use system() call.
knowing the ipc would make that nicer.
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2576[17:03:15] <KB3VGW> adding pulse and other stuff would
cluster it and make it harder to maintain
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2579[17:03:41] <KB3VGW> I will read on pulse in a min
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2580[17:03:44] <KB3VGW> and see
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2582[17:04:27] <unborn> ......guys you are chasing the rabbit in
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2607[17:08:47] <hmpf1> well, i'll dive into nmcli a bit.
thanks for the input.
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2614[17:10:22] <TomTomTosch> KB3VGW: my point wasn't about
using pulse. it was about using a higher level lib to play sound. if
i understood you problem, that is.
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2616[17:11:56] <teraflops> only OSS support for that ancient
hamradio thingy
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2649[17:22:41] <docmur> I have a server running debian 7 where I
want to remap the left and right CTRL keys to higher up keys like
F<1-9>, how do I do this, in the terminal only.
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2651[17:23:14] <tgunr> getting the hang of nftables and liking it
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2655[17:23:41] <greycat> docmur: you literally walk up to the
server and stand in front of it and login on the Linux console? Not
ssh?
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2656[17:23:43] <tgunr> sooo much easier than iptables
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2657[17:24:18] <docmur> I'm logged in via SSH, which I just
realized means I probably asked the wrong question. BUT once I ssh
in via the terminal, does the server take over the keymap, OR is it
still process via the clienet system
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2658[17:24:29] <greycat> Also, how are you going to press Ctrl-C
or Ctrl-Z or Ctrl-D or some other *very important* control key
sequence if you remap both of the Ctrl keys?
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2662[17:24:49] <greycat> Oh good, you're not ACTUALLY on the
console. You're on ssh. So the question is completely moot.
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2663[17:24:50] <teraflops> tgunr: the lack of documentation is a
bit annoying though
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2666[17:25:02] <tgunr> yes, it was
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2668[17:25:13] <docmur> The problem is, is that I have a keyboard
with dead CTRL keys, it's really annoying, so apart from
running out right now to get a new keyboard, I just want to remap
those two keys
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2669[17:25:17] <Zewwy> anyone know how to join the cyanogenmod
channel?
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2670[17:25:28] <teraflops> try /join?
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2672[17:25:36] <tgunr> i particuraly like having the ability to
specify multiple targets
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2673[17:25:38] <Zewwy> well duh
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2676[17:25:51] <Zewwy> #cyanogenmod Cannot join channel (+r) -
you need to be identified with services
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2677[17:26:01] <greycat> docmur: So it's NOTHING AT ALL to
do with the server. You want to change your CLIENT (window manager,
desktop environment, terminal emulator, *some* layer on the *client*
system where your *keyboard is*).
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2678[17:26:02] <teraflops> tgunr: yeah I think is more human
readable too
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2679[17:26:11] <tgunr> much
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2681[17:26:31] <greycat> docmur: If you are using X on this
client, you can do it with xmodmap.
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2683[17:26:41] <Zewwy> That error message to me is like the
"PC load letter" message was to Micheal Bolton
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2684[17:26:43] <docmur> Ah okay
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2685[17:26:45] <docmur> :)
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2686[17:26:47] <docmur> thanks :)
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2689[17:27:16] <teraflops> Zewwy: ah register your nick
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2690[17:27:31] <Zewwy> thanks
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2692[17:28:04] <tgunr> I personally was coming from mac (ipfw)
and cisco and not a lot of experience with iptables, figured i might
as well learn nftables as it is the likely successor
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2695[17:29:25] <tgunr> The iptables-compat-restore didn't
work very well for me though
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2697[17:29:48] <teraflops> never used that thing so i have no
idea
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2698[17:30:06] <tgunr> oh and, figuing out the logging was a
RPITA also
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2700[17:30:47] <tgunr> took me forever to realize I had to
rerstart the syslog-ng after setting up the /proc crap
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2702[17:31:10] <KB3VGW> is kate around
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2703[17:31:11] <KB3VGW> dev kate
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2704[17:31:11] <KB3VGW> I need to get this sound issue fixed
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2708[17:32:39] <tgunr> anyone have experience in putting debian
on a MacPro? I just found out my trusty MacPro3,1 is at EOL for OS
updates so Im thinking of turning it into a deb server
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2726[17:39:20] <Guest99915> linux is for bitches and dumb ones at
that :
replaced-url
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2727[17:39:27] <Guest99915> long live BSD
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2729[17:39:36] <angevin> :P
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2731[17:39:59] <greycat> Consider filing a bug report against
systemd if you know of an exploit that can crash it.
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2733[17:40:31] <angevin> greycat: consider switching to FreeBSD
and OpenBSD since linux is for mentally retarded chimpanzees
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2734[17:40:38] <greycat> OK, I will consider this.
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2738[17:41:28] <angevin> everyone warned this kind of thing would
happen with systemd
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2739[17:41:37] <angevin> now it is happening
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2742[17:42:01] <OerHeks> angevin the 'dumb' one is who
wrote that article, and did a full disclosure of that bug.
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2744[17:43:12] <abrotman> and you fed the troll .. congrats
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2746[17:43:46] <greycat> Only one occurrence of CVE on that page,
and it isn't a link to an actual CVE. Sad.
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2752[17:46:53] <cybrNaut> unborn: CloudFlare positions itself as
DDoS protection, but it's evil on many levels. Incompetently
implemented. CloudFlare blocks legit traffic, forces captchas on
visitors to your site including those with disabilities that prevent
them solving them. A better place to consult about cloudflare is
#crypto.
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2754[17:47:52] <teraflops> cybrNaut: s/DDoS protection/MITM
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2759[17:51:09] <cybrNaut> indeed
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2767[17:54:11] <jair> hello
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2770[17:54:55] <jair> do you guys know what I cannot send
messages to #ubuntu #debian works perfectly fine I have a log in
registered with freenode and I have always used in the past
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2771[17:55:20] <jair> it is showing this: jair> hello
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2772[17:55:20] <jair> 00:50 -!- #ubuntu Cannot send to channel
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2774[17:55:54] <teraflops> jair: try pm to an op
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2775[17:56:01] <teraflops> jair: or ask in #freenode
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2833[18:12:20] <jair> hello everyone
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2843[18:15:21] <jair> I have a X1 carbon laptop running ubuntu
xenial, and I am wondering if I can make a bluetooth adapter work
with my mouse
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2844[18:15:54] <jair> I have a bluetooth mouse that does not need
a receiver, it can connect with any bluetooth device
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2845[18:16:00] <somiaj> jair: why are you asking here, you know
you should be asking in #ubuntu. Their channel just requires you
have a registered nic. /msg nickserv help
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2849[18:16:17] <jair> ohhh so sorry I thought I was in ubuntu
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2850[18:16:22] <jair> going there sorry sorry
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2851[18:16:25] <jair> bye
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2860[18:21:23] <linux__> Hi
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2861[18:21:25] <linux__> How I can run a program by another user
?
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2862[18:21:27] <linux__> ?
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2863[18:22:22] <somiaj> linux__: sudo or su
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2864[18:23:29] <linux__> I can't run kate by another user ,
How I can ?
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2865[18:23:59] <linux__> what is the command ?
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2870[18:26:44] <petn-randall> linux__: 'man su'
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2871[18:27:16] <teraflops> what's kate?
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2872[18:27:17] <linux__> If I execute this command I get an error
: "sudo -u linux kate"
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2876[18:28:13] <linux__> kate is a text editor in KDE
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2877[18:28:20] <somiaj> linux__: problem with running kate as
another user is that user needs to have access to the xorg server.
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2878[18:28:29] <somiaj> linux__: maybe try a console based editor
instead.
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2879[18:28:40] <somiaj> linux__: nano is installed by default,
and there are others like vim, emacs, etc
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2883[18:29:25] <mtn> linux__: for gui apps, you need to use
gksudo appname
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2889[18:30:40] <linux__> what is the command that I should write
?
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2890[18:30:59] <podbay> Hi. Any recommendations for a
debian-packaged wiki software that works well with nginx and offers
a wysiwyg page editor?
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2893[18:31:16] <mtn> linux__: check out man gksudo, see if any
help there
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2895[18:31:49] <linux__> The program 'gksudo' is
currently not installed.
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2896[18:32:02] <mtn> linux__: guess what? install it ;)
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2897[18:32:03] <teraflops> i wonder if there's a kdesu
thingy
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2898[18:32:08] <linux__> I'm using KDE
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2899[18:32:27] <mtn> linux__: ok, then like teraflops said, use
kdesu or similar
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2912[18:37:45] <linux__> I found the solution here :
replaced-url
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2913[18:37:53] <linux__> Thank you all .
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2935[18:43:05] <okami_> hello
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2936[18:43:17] <okami_> just testing polari, sorry :D
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2960[18:54:04] <jxcl> hey all, I just installed debian 8.6 on a
system with a recent network card which is only supported in the
newer kernels
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2963[18:54:29] <jxcl> so I installed without configuring the
network. I've now updated the kernel to the latest version and
I'm wondering how I can configure the network without the
installer
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2966[18:55:24] <greycat> The simplest config (ethernet, DHCP) is
to put "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
lines in /etc/network/interfaces
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2967[18:55:34] <greycat> Anything more complex, you'll have
to tell us what you need.
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2977[18:57:31] <jxcl> greycat, that worked, thanks!
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2982[18:58:38] <farakat> hey I'm having an issue with wine
with bad exe error
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2986[19:01:04] <farakat> I wonder if it's because of wine
stable in debian
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2988[19:01:26] <farakat> I'm trying to run rufus in Debian,
But there seems like no alternative like SUSE imagewriter in Deb
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3006[19:06:44] <KB3VGW> this wireless ISP is killing me today
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3008[19:07:34] <farakat> disconnecting?
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3013[19:10:14] <farakat> o: does Debian have any alternative usb
booting software like suse imagewriter
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3016[19:13:28] <at0m> imagewriter? copy file.img /dev/sdx ?
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3018[19:13:43] <farakat> o: I can just do that
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3019[19:14:02] <at0m> or dd if=file.img of=/dev/sdx bs=4M
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3020[19:14:08] <farakat> ah ok
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3021[19:14:12] <greycat> (they are equivalent)
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3024[19:15:07] <at0m> greycat: debian installer advises on cp,
but don't ask me for details on that
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3035[19:16:06] <at0m>
replaced-url
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3040[19:17:05] <farakat> alright I found my usb drive on sdb1
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3041[19:17:13] <farakat> thanks atom
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3042[19:17:25] <izua> now to delete your hdd and realise
"fuck, my usb pen was sdc1"
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3043[19:17:34] <at0m> do not dd, cp or cat to sdb1 but to sdb
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3046[19:17:48] <at0m> yea make sure you got the right disk first,
cos all will be wiped
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3047[19:17:52] <farakat> oh
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3048[19:17:56] <farakat> good thing I read that first
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3049[19:18:19] <at0m> mount it, confirm the stick, umount then
^^^
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3053[19:18:57] <farakat> is dmesg only way to find your mount
device
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3054[19:19:09] <at0m> or plain 'mount'
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3062[19:22:03] <KB3VGW-> ok still no where with this
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3068[19:24:00] <cast> lsblk is a nice way to check what's
what
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3072[19:24:46] <farakat> yeah sdb sounds like a safe option to
format
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3075[19:25:14] <farakat> sdb - connected to sdb1 Debian 8.6.0
amd64 that's my bootable usb alright
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3137[19:48:00] <hid3> Hello everyone. I've just migrated
from Wheezy to Jessie and not I can't get my apache2 with ssl
configuration up and running. The browser does not open up the
connection and there are complex rewrite rules from http to https so
can't check if http is working... Logs don't show anything
obvious... Any hints for troubleshooting?
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3139[19:48:50] <tgunr> assume nothing, start with basics
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3141[19:49:24] <hid3> getting ssl protocol error, at least this
is what the browser says
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3142[19:49:25] <petn-randall> hid3: Does 'apache2ctl
-t' throw any errors?
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3144[19:49:28] <tgunr> are you listening on the port, are
friewall rules in place, etc
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3146[19:49:49] <hid3> petn-randall: nope
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3147[19:49:50] <hid3>
replaced-url
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3148[19:49:51] <petn-randall> hid3: Is there apache2 server
actually up and running, and listening on the right ports?
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3149[19:49:54] <hid3> oops
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3155[19:50:07] <hid3> my clipboard does not work
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3156[19:50:22] <hid3> just says 'Syntax OK'
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3158[19:50:45] <tgunr> man apache2ctl
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3159[19:50:58] <hid3> petn-randall: yes. I can see the processes,
as well netstat shows it listening on 80 and 443 ports
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3160[19:51:24] <petn-randall> hid3: If you run 'wget
replaced-url
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3162[19:52:22] <hid3> nope, seems like it shows the index
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3165[19:52:27] <hid3> It shouldn't, I suppose
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3166[19:52:36] <petn-randall> hid3: Pay close attention to the
URL I wrote.
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3167[19:52:39] <hid3> as there should be running ssl on that port
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3168[19:52:44] <hid3> yes, I saw that
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3173[19:53:24] <petn-randall> hid3: Inded, you are somehow
serving plain HTTP over port 443. So check if your config has all
the right settings in that regard. Also check if the ssl module is
activated.
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3177[19:54:02] <hid3> hm...
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3184[19:56:27] <`Kevin> hid3: iirc, sudo apachectl -t -D
DUMP_MODULES
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3185[19:56:38] <`Kevin> ssl listed?
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3189[19:57:33] <edoardo> Hello
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3194[19:58:14] <edoardo> I'm having some issues with a
debian install, the keyboard is completely messed up everywhere but
in console (so CTRL+ALT+F# and xterm)
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3196[19:58:30] <edoardo> Writing "hello" writes
"kh``z"
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3197[19:58:34] <alphanet> hello, ncal -w on Debian LTS says week
40, and on jessie say week 41, funny?
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3201[19:59:08] <hid3> `Kevin: yes, it is. Now I think I will
start with fresh ssl config....
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3206[20:00:09] <edoardo> It's debian installed from the
netinst and with just openbox running
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3207[20:00:13] <petn-randall> hid3: You probably are just missing
the right ssl options in your virtualhost config.
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3209[20:00:53] <`Kevin> hid3: sslengine, crt, key under your
<virtualhost x.x.x.x:443> should be enough outside of extra
cipher options etc for security
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3210[20:00:57] <`Kevin> x2 ^
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3216[20:03:03] <hid3> Okay, looks like I got it up and running
now...
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3217[20:03:10] <hid3> (Thank God and you guys)
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3220[20:04:04] <Numb3rz> #programming
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3224[20:05:18] <alphanet> (ok, it was a locale problem)
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3227[20:05:52] <hid3> not sure what was wrong with the old SSL
config. I started with fresh one and transfered important options to
new one (e.g. ssl protocols, ssl certificates, directory settings,
etc) and it worked.
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3235[20:07:32] <ompaul> hid3: I presume you copied all the
original stuff to one side?
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3236[20:07:43] <ompaul> hid3: may I presume you copied all the
original stuff to one side?
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3238[20:09:27] <ompaul> I'm taking the lack of reply as a no
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3261[20:17:51] <hid3> ompaul: sorry, was busy doing some
post-upgrade configuration. What do you mean by 'one
side'?
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3263[20:18:43] <hid3> regarding the ssl config, I just took the
relevant options and transfered it to the new config file which came
originally with apache 2.4
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3264[20:18:51] <jhutchins> hid3: Did you keep a bckup of the old
config?
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3266[20:19:06] <hid3> jhutchins: yes, of course!
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3268[20:19:19] <jhutchins> hid3: This would allow you to dif the
files and see what changed.
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3269[20:19:23] <hid3> I did complete /etc directory backup before
starting to mess with all of that
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3271[20:19:49] <jhutchins> hid3: Well, that's overkill, but
that's always good when backing up.
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3273[20:20:54] <hid3> yeah, know it's overkill but with this
server I wanted to be better safe than sorry
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3278[20:21:21] <hid3> after my vacation I'll probably
migrate to even driven apache
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3291[20:27:52] <PerfDave_> I am trying to ensure that my SSD is
set up with TRIM/DISCARD in Debian 8 - I have the SSD, a crypt
partition (yes I know about the risks of DISCARD on crypt), LVM on
that, and filesystems in LVs. I know that `lsblk -D` shows a
DISC-ZERO column which is 0 for all my devices on both my SSD laptop
and my spinning rust desktop - what /should/ it look like?
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3324[20:42:06] <jhutchins> PerfDave_: If you have a reasonably
new SSD you can really just use the standard defaults these days.
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3326[20:43:10] <jhutchins> PerfDave_: On an older box I have the
following options: ext4
defaults,discard,noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro
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3334[20:45:11] <PerfDave_> jhutchins: Standard defaults including
no issue_discards in lvm.conf, no discard in crypttab?
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3339[20:46:53] <missmbob> hid3: figured it out yet? just got
here. this will help.
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3340[20:47:18] <hid3> missmbob: yes, problem solved
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3369[20:58:47] <metachr0n> hi everyone, what is the best way to
handle a stable system on which i want to install a couple of
testing packages?
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3371[20:59:06] <greycat> Look for backports. If they don't
exist, try to make your own. If you can't make your own,
install upstream source code instead.
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3375[20:59:27] <metachr0n> i've read everything from
defining preferences to setting the default version
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3377[20:59:41] <greycat> Stop reading all of that. What is the
first package?
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3378[20:59:51] <metachr0n> taskd
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3379[20:59:59] <greycat> (All that crap you are reading is
"pinning" related. Throw it all away.)
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3380[21:00:04] <greycat> ,v taskd
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3381[21:00:05] <judd> Package: taskd on amd64 -- sid:
1.1.0+dfsg-2; stretch: 1.1.0+dfsg-2
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3383[21:00:17] <greycat> ,checkbackport taskd
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3385[21:00:18] <judd> Backporting package taskd in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
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3386[21:00:27] <metachr0n> oooh nice
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3387[21:00:41] <greycat> I have no idea what that is, but there
is no backport yet, and the bot thinks a backport MIGHT be possible,
but it is often wrong about this.
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3388[21:01:00] <metachr0n> its basically the server side of
taskwarrior
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3389[21:01:20] <greycat> ,info taskd
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3390[21:01:21] <judd> No package named 'taskd' was
found in jessie/amd64.
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3391[21:01:26] <greycat> ,info taskd stretch
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3392[21:01:27] <judd> Package taskd (utils, extra) in
stretch/amd64: Synchronisation server for taskwarrior. Version:
1.1.0+dfsg-2; Size: 170.9k; Installed: 577k; Homepage:
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3393[21:01:54] <metachr0n> yep thats the one ... so i can have my
todo list priority on all devices
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3394[21:01:59] * greycat goes to home page, finds sentence: "This
allows true syncing between desktop and mobile clients."
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3396[21:02:29] <metachr0n> XD
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3401[21:02:58] <metachr0n> if i were one of the naturally
organized ( read non-add ) folks i wouldn't need such rubbish
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3402[21:03:05] <metachr0n> maybe we will have wetware for this
someday
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3405[21:06:28] <metachr0n> thanks for the help btw
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3425[21:20:05] <Tsutsukakushi> anyone here know if anyone is
planning on making lxd available from the debian repos?
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3427[21:20:19] <Tsutsukakushi> searching the mailing lists is
kind of hard with such a short name
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