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25[00:10:25] <SkyBlooD> h
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45[00:21:34] <hmuller> does rescue mode work on an encrypted
root system?
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49[00:22:22] <jpw> hmuller: yes provided the dm_crypt kernel
mod is loaded
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52[00:23:59] <hmuller> jpw: thanks, I must have done something
silly like run update-passwd in the wrong terminal
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53[00:24:08] <rudi_s> And assuming you know the password of the
LUKS device.
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56[00:26:29] <hmuller> rudi_s: indeed I do
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58[00:26:41] <Keitaro> is anyone here had already configure a
mda server with dovecot plz ?
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60[00:26:51] <manuelschneid3r> Hi folks
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61[00:27:05] <manuelschneid3r> is there a way to get the
aliases in bash programmatically
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62[00:27:12] <jpw> Keitaro: mta?
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63[00:27:20] <manuelschneid3r> is there something like a
libbash?
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64[00:27:26] <manuelschneid3r> context is c++
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65[00:27:35] <Keitaro> mail delivery agent jpw
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66[00:27:49] <Keitaro> i got a problem with my dovecot
configuration :/
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68[00:28:02] <missmbob> manuelschneid3r: #bash
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69[00:28:03] <manuelschneid3r> hmm I should rephrase this: Is
there a way to get the bash aliases programmatically using c/c++
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75[00:29:34] <jpw> Keitaro: dovecot has its own mda what are
you trying to deliver to?
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76[00:29:38] <manuelschneid3r> ty missmbob
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77[00:30:19] <Keitaro> jpw, i am trying to configure a mail
server MDA (dovecot) and MTA (postfix)
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78[00:30:37] <Keitaro> when i send a mail on the postfix server
using the mail command it work well
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79[00:30:37] <Brigo> manuelschneid3r, i think they are in the
environment, if you can access it you could.
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81[00:30:58] <Keitaro> but i don't know why i can't
start my dovecot server
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82[00:31:07] <Keitaro> when i do service dovecot start it said
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83[00:31:09] <rudi_s> Brigo: They are not.
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85[00:31:22] <Keitaro> Starting Dovecot IMAP/POP3 email
server...
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87[00:31:30] <Keitaro> Started Dovecot IMAP/POP3 email server.
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88[00:31:30] <rudi_s> manuelschneid3r: It's difficult,
because you'd have to parse bash shell (all startup files)
which is not easy when you're not a shell.
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89[00:31:36] <rudi_s> But why would you do something like that?
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90[00:31:38] <Brigo> rudi_s, you are right
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91[00:31:41] <Keitaro> master: Fatal: service(auth) User
doesn't exist: postfix (See service auth { unix_listener
/var/spool/pos... settin
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95[00:32:10] <Brigo> manuelschneid3r, check the man pages,
getaliasbyname, for example could work for you
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100[00:33:10] <manuelschneid3r> rudi_s, want to build a launcher
with a terminal/shell plugin
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108[00:34:56] <rudi_s> Brigo: ?
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111[00:35:32] <Brigo> rudi_s, is a c library, i think is what
manuelschneid3r is looking for.
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112[00:35:43] <rudi_s> manuelschneid3r: And for that you want to
resolve aliases as well? Then ask the shell to give them to you.
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113[00:35:49] <TomTomTosch> Brigo: it has nothing to do with
bash aliases.
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116[00:36:09] <rudi_s> And parsing anything shell in C is wrong
and won't work.
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117[00:36:24] <Brigo> TomTomTosch, The quiestion was: Is there a
way to get the bash aliases programmatically using c/c++?
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119[00:36:53] <TomTomTosch> exactly
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120[00:37:08] <rudi_s> manuelschneid3r: bash -i -c
'alias' and parse that output. I don't think
it's a good idea to do that, but if you really want to handle
aliases, I think the best way.
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121[00:37:08] <Brigo> then i am missing something
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127[00:40:55] <TomTomTosch> Brigo: your answer has nothing to do
with finding bash aliases. that's a function to query mail
aliases.
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131[00:42:14] <Brigo> TomTomTosch, ok, i see now i was
completely wrong, sorry dudes! :)
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135[00:45:43] <g0zzy> Is there a who for desktop
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136[00:46:10] <g0zzy> Maybe tricky because of
non-standardization?
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196[01:13:54] <journal> hi im running jessie and need a gui util
for selecting my audio output for a bluetooth headset
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200[01:14:20] <journal> any suggestions?
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202[01:14:35] <Plushwolf> journal: pavucontrol
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206[01:15:02] <missmbob> you might have to install it
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208[01:15:30] <journal> na got it lol, thanks much i thought
that was on ubuntu it was hidden
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213[01:16:46] <journal> it doesnt show my headset though maybe
im missing a bluez utill
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221[01:19:58] <journal> looks like bluez-tools is what im
after.. yep indeed thank you guys
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356[03:02:39] <mww113> Hello all. I just installed Debian on my
2012 MacBook pro and so far so good. I installed the
firmware-b43-installer package to get my wifi card to work, but
it's only seeing 2.4ghz networks. I'd like to use my 5ghz
network if possible. Any suggestions?
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361[03:07:19] <mww113> I'm thinking it may be just a shitty
outdated driver but I don't know if there's anything else
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362[03:13:41] <somiaj> the b43 driver is just poor. I'm
unsure if a newer kernel would help with that
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364[03:13:56] <mww113> gotcha
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365[03:14:22] <somiaj> I just found this,
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366[03:14:29] <somiaj> which mentions a kernel just newer than
jessie
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367[03:14:29] <mww113> I'm using whatever kernal comes with
the stretch RC2
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368[03:14:31] <somiaj> !bpo kernel
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369[03:14:31] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases
are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask
me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then
run «aptitude update». To install the current backported
kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install
linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To
list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude
search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian
Backports))'».
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371[03:14:53] <somiaj> mww113: oh you have stretch, in this case
it isn't a kernel issue, you'll have 4.9 which is fairly
new in kernel evolution.
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372[03:15:00] <somiaj> you can double check you have 4.9 with
uname -a
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373[03:15:06] <mww113> yeah that's what I was thinking...
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375[03:15:24] <mww113> yeah it's 4.9
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376[03:16:02] <somiaj> I see some comments on that page I linked
about making sure to set the mode to not be mixed, but I don't
know any tricks, so I have no more suggestions
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377[03:16:19] <mww113> okay I'll take a look at it. thank
you
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397[03:25:30] <eb0t> ah thanks so much
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448[04:16:25] <mww113> In case anyone is interested I found that
installing the broadcom-sta-common/source/dkms packages along with
kernel headers seemed to resolve the issue
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449[04:16:38] <mww113> I will update the debian wiki
documentation in case anyone else runs into this
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453[04:21:43] <mww113> actually I can't create a wiki
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457[04:24:02] <somiaj> yea I ran into that too...you'll
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458[04:24:17] <mww113> i sent the email
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459[04:24:20] <somiaj> anyways is broadcom-sta-common still a
staging driver? I almost wonder if it got put into the main kernel
yet.
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460[04:24:37] <mww113> doesn't seem to be staging.
it's in the jessie repo
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461[04:25:49] <mww113> but it's non-free so I doubt
it'll ever be put into the kernel
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462[04:26:26] <somiaj> ahh, I just saw 'sta' which I
see for staging drivers that usually get put in the kernel at a
later date, but yea if it is non-free this is another story.
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466[04:28:23] <mww113> someone on stackexchange seems to think
it stands for station for some reason
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467[04:28:26] <mww113>
replaced-url
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468[04:28:32] <mww113> but yeah I'm pretty sure it's
not stagin
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469[04:28:34] <mww113> *staging
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470[04:29:13] <mww113> too bad it's not on the wiki though,
had to do some digging to find that
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472[04:30:21] <somiaj> thanks for wanting to update it.
HOpefully you get a response and a wiki account soon.
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474[04:32:03] <mww113> yeah I'd like to do it while
it's still on my mind but we'll see
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507[04:50:48] <history> I have a problem. I had installed debian
on my macbook. Then I reinstalled macOS Sierra on it. This has
caused my macbook to boot directly into macOS. I am unable to see
grub, and therefore enter debian. Can someone help me?
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508[04:51:04] <somiaj> !fixmbr
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509[04:51:04] <dpkg> To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your
Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2),
mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ;
mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ;
mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target),
run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub
&& grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue
mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
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510[04:51:25] <somiaj> history: that is roughtly what it is,
note macbooks I think are efi, so you need to use an efi live image.
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511[04:51:55] <somiaj> history: also do you know if you can have
more than one efi file on the mac efi partition? If so maybe the
firmware can be configured to boot from the grub efi file that may
be still on your efi partition.
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512[04:52:07] <history> i dont have the debian disk, only
gparted. Can I do it with that?
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516[04:54:41] <somiaj> no, you need to be running from a linux
kernel live image
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517[04:55:31] <history> oh ok, thanks somiaj; i'll give
your advice a go.
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518[04:56:25] <somiaj> first I would see if you can just point
the firmware at the existing debian grub efi file if it is there. I
don't know macbooks well enough to have more more advice than
jsut general
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545[05:20:15] <Apostle> hello
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548[05:20:35] <Apostle> I am trying to install Debian Jessie on
a ASUS E403SA-US21
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550[05:20:47] <Apostle> should I give up on this? is it even
possible?
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551[05:20:59] <Apostle> my current problem is that Debian Jessie
does not see the hard drive
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552[05:21:11] <Apostle> I have checked in the BIOS
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553[05:21:30] <Apostle> I don't see it there either
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554[05:21:38] <Apostle> arg
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558[05:23:07] <missmbob> Apostle: that looks like one of those
fancy m.2
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560[05:23:52] <Apostle> ?
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561[05:23:59] <Apostle> UEFI issue maybe?
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563[05:24:10] <Apostle> the vendors are making it harder to
install linux arg
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565[05:24:15] <missmbob> Apostle: m.2 is an sata ssd type
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566[05:24:20] <Apostle> oh
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567[05:24:26] <Apostle> any solution
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568[05:24:30] <Apostle> driver missing maybe
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569[05:24:44] <somiaj> so you can boot say windows from it, even
though the firmware doens't see the harddrive?
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570[05:24:46] <missmbob> Apostle: i think you'll have to
use the stretch iso here:
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571[05:24:46] <Apostle> maybe I need debian jessie installer
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572[05:24:56] <a6576171> Hey, how do I set the headphones and
not the speakers as my default output, since they are in the same
"sink"?
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573[05:24:59] <Apostle> yes
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575[05:25:07] <Apostle> let me try that
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576[05:25:10] <Apostle> thanks
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611[05:54:10] <Apostle> missmbob, thanks
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612[05:54:11] <Apostle> progress
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613[05:54:13] <Apostle> :)
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673[06:56:01] <efloid> about to do a dist-upgrade on my server.
the calculated upgrade looks really good - no major changes/removals
of installed packages.
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675[06:56:16] <efloid> upgrade from jessie to stretch
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676[06:56:55] <missmbob> your server doesnt need security
updates?
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679[06:58:40] <efloid> missmbob: i have
replaced-url
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680[06:59:30] <missmbob> efloid: doesnt matter. stretch
currently has no security system in place right now. not 'til
*just* it's about to be released. not now. not really close
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681[06:59:38] <efloid> is stretch not being updated with ...
oh....
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683[06:59:46] <missmbob> nope.
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685[07:00:18] <efloid> well no hurry then. yes security updates
of course critical :-)
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686[07:00:49] <efloid> thank you
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693[07:01:42] <somiaj> in special cases the secuirty repo is
used for testing, but this is rare, sometimes a security push is
rushed through sid (though this now requires an exception).
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694[07:02:18] <efloid> that's one reason i don't trust
dotdeb repo either. have no idea what or even if there is a security
update policy
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695[07:02:37] <missmbob> dotdeb is awful anyway. dont use them
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696[07:02:48] <somiaj> anyways, I've only seen very
critical security updates get elevated to do this, most of them
you'll have to wait longer than you probabaly want to on a
server.
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745[07:42:46] <jaami> hi there, i need link for debian iso to
burn it on usb , can someone give me the link for dvd?
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747[07:43:14] <jaami> i need that for intel 64bit
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751[07:47:36] <awal1>
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753[07:48:46] <awal1> jaami: ^
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777[08:02:00] <jaami> where to get link for debian , intel64bit
dvd?
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780[08:03:28] <jaami> please dont give me the official debian
page link
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781[08:03:49] <jaami> i need the link that you have
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783[08:04:26] <awal1> amd64 = 64bit
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804[08:19:48] <jaami> hi, there can i get link for debian dvd
64bit for intel64? i dont want the official debian link. i need the
one you have?
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806[08:20:51] <towo^work> want trolling?
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807[08:21:14] <jaami> trolling?
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808[08:21:28] <towo^work> you have gotten 2 links
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809[08:21:33] <jaami> what do you mean
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811[08:21:36] <towo^work> what's your problem with it?
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812[08:21:48] <towo^work> [07:45:54] <towo^work>
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813[08:21:55] <towo^work> [07:46:48] <awal1>
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814[08:22:30] <jaami> oh, the official debian link does not give
me solid iso
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815[08:22:50] <bolt> iso's are image files, not physical
disks
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816[08:22:59] <bolt> they'll never be solid
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817[08:23:04] <jaami> i used jigdo that always end with error
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818[08:23:20] <bolt> so either figure out how to use jigdo, or
don't use it
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819[08:23:26] <jaami> i mean, not the physical disk.
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821[08:24:06] <jaami> i figured it out how to use it. two times
it failed
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823[08:24:22] <bolt>
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824[08:24:27] <bolt> the dvd image doesn't get more solid
than that
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826[08:24:56] <jaami> it wont work bolt , please try to
understand
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827[08:25:21] <bolt> why won't it work?
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828[08:25:29] <jaami> you know why jigdo is important
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829[08:26:06] <bolt> no
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830[08:26:11] <jaami> i downloaded from the same link 2 times,
it was not working with rufus, unetbootin, win32diskimage etc
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831[08:26:37] <bolt> how was it not working?
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832[08:26:42] <jaami> it wont work unless i get it from someone
or the jigdo work for me
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833[08:26:58] <bolt> yes it will
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834[08:27:04] <jaami> the usb when boot always crash or send me
to grub promt
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835[08:27:12] <borsin> perhaps the person is looking for a
physical copy
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836[08:27:36] <jaami> no dear, i want to download and i need
link from someone
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837[08:27:45] <bolt> jaami: you don't
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838[08:27:51] <jaami> i used download manger but it wont help
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839[08:27:57] <jaami> reall, ?
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840[08:28:06] <bolt> then don't use a download manager
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841[08:28:09] <bolt> get another usb key
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842[08:28:15] <bolt> or figure out what your error message is
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843[08:28:20] <bolt> it probably means something
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845[08:28:33] <bolt> make sure your machine can successfully
boot other things from usb
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846[08:28:35] <jaami> another usb key? i bought it yesterday,
brand new
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848[08:28:58] <bolt> doesn't mean it's bootable
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849[08:29:01] <bolt> look at your error message
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850[08:29:05] <bolt> might mean something
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851[08:29:07] <jaami> hmm, that is good point
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856[08:30:04] <jaami> i have 2 laptops, either one should be
good, but the usb when made bootable was not good for both
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857[08:30:29] <jaami> i dont think its laptop or usb
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860[08:31:38] <jaami> i remeber when first time i installed
debian and it took me days. someoen helped me with correct debian
iso
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861[08:31:56] <jaami> then i was able to intall it
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865[08:33:42] <jaami> please let me have the link. this will
save time. cannot waste another day. i have to do many things.
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870[08:36:10] <jaami> ok i can try that netinst.iso but again i
will have to use something like rufus , or win32diskimage
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871[08:36:33] <jaami> hope it will work
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872[08:36:49] <towo^work> rufus will never work
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876[08:37:08] <jaami> win32diskimage?
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877[08:38:00] <awal1> people recommend it usually yeah
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884[08:38:53] <jaami> alright, i
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886[08:38:58] <jaami> try
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891[08:40:31] <awal1> dpkg: win32diskimager
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892[08:40:31] <dpkg> win32diskimager is much more reliable than
<unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can
download it from
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895[08:41:10] <jaami> got it last night from sf.
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899[08:43:06] <slax0r> hi, is it possible to make some sort of a
snapshot of the system without too much hassle before an upgrade,
that can easily be rolled back to if things go south afterwards?
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908[08:45:51] <borsin> slax0r: lvm and snapshot should do it
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911[08:46:22] <slax0r> or, lets try a different approach, I need
to install vagrant in version at least 1.8, which is not available
in jessie nor jessie-backports, only available satisfying package is
in stretch and sid, but trying to install from stretch it pulls in a
long list of deps, I don't feel really comfortable with pulling
all upgraded packages in, especially since I'm using a
backports kernel
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912[08:46:34] <slax0r> would it be better to just download a
.deb package from vagrant directly and install it?
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913[08:46:45] <slax0r> borsin: yeah, totally should have used
lvm when installing this machine
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914[08:47:00] <jelly> slax0r: don't mix packages for
stretch into jessie, that way lies pain and suffering
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915[08:47:25] <slax0r> a path to the dark side that is?
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916[08:47:40] <slax0r> sorry, sensed a bit of yoda in your
statement ;)
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917[08:47:57] <jelly> slax0r: either install stretch completely,
keeping in mind it still testing is,
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918[08:48:25] <jelly> slax0r: or packages from upstream use IF
they built for jessie are
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919[08:48:58] <slax0r> don't want to install stretch just
yet, only so I can prepare a couple of vagrant scripts for people
too lazy to switch from windows
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920[08:49:15] <slax0r> I guess I'll try and install vagrant
.deb directly from their site, and hope for the best
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926[08:54:19] <Matt|home> hi. having a MASSIVE assload of
trouble getting apt to work, im trying to get a command-line program
to burn an ISO image to a DVD i have. what is the easiest way to do
this via commandline, since dd evidently doesn't work according
to forums?
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934[08:59:28] <pragomer_1> hi. i had a bash alias like
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935[08:59:35] <pragomer_1> alias mycrypt="/usr/bin/gpg
--passphrase MYPASS -c"
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936[08:59:46] <pragomer_1> that did encrypt a file without
interaction.. symmetric with my passphrase.
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937[08:59:59] <pragomer_1> but since debian9 it get asked for
password in any case
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938[09:00:42] <jpw> Matt|home: woodim
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941[09:02:33] <styler2go> Does someone know about a web-ui to
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945[09:04:40] <jpw> styler2go: How do you plan to connect to
this web UI if the netork is not configured
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948[09:05:08] <styler2go> jpw: localhost
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950[09:06:12] <jpw> styler2go: theres only one that i know of
whos name shall not be mentioned
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951[09:06:29] <styler2go> whisper it to me
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952[09:06:42] <styler2go> noone needs to know *hurrhurr*
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953[09:07:04] <jpw> dpkg: tell styler2go about webmin
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954[09:07:33] <styler2go> lol
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955[09:07:37] <styler2go> I love the explanation
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956[09:07:53] <styler2go> I'll check it out, thanks!
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957[09:08:06] <jpw> its your funeral :)
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959[09:08:27] <styler2go> Who'll pay for my gravestone tho
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966[09:16:03] <jpw> styler2go: I'll reiterate, i highly
discourage its use. Please do some more research before you go
installing it.
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969[09:16:40] <styler2go> jpw: If i use it it's only for
network configuration and i would block any other feature
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970[09:17:05] <styler2go> And if it's really that bad i
will just write my own web frontend
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971[09:17:19] <jpw> or, you know use puppet or something
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973[09:17:47] <styler2go> dpkg: tell me about puppet
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975[09:18:21] <styler2go> is puppet something like ansible?
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978[09:19:24] <jpw> yeah but it (imo) is better for ongoing
management of a system
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981[09:20:25] <jpw> it can run in one-shot mode to consifgure
basically anything, or run as a daemon receiving configuration from
a puppet master
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982[09:20:53] <styler2go> i never worked with ansible or similar
but we use it in our company and i totally hate it :/
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984[09:21:14] <jpw> you quickly find yourself in ssh-key hell
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986[09:22:52] <jpw> we use it interna;;y for managing ~20,000
servers
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987[09:23:02] <jpw> this exact module
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991[09:27:31] <Night_Elf> Actually I have thought to get to know
something about ansible or puppet. I have noticed these are the
lastest fads and trendy requirements listed in websites under
"we want you to have these skills". Do these things stand
up to the hype around them, and which of these do you recomend?
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1001[09:31:02] <Defcon5> Hello everyone
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1002[09:31:46] <Defcon5> Just a question. How do I register my
nic
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1004[09:32:36] <jpw> Night_Elf: puppet is really good for systems
that support it. ansible for everything else.
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1005[09:33:17] <Night_Elf> Defcon5: ns /register password
email-address
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1007[09:33:39] <Night_Elf> jpw: I see.
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1008[09:33:42] <jpw> Night_Elffor example we use a lot of vmware
products and you simply cannot install a puppet agent on to these.
If you need to install a certificate etc ansible is king.
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1009[09:33:56] <Defcon5> whats ns
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1011[09:34:03] <jpw> nickserv
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1012[09:34:22] <Night_Elf> jpw: I read you.
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1016[09:35:17] <Defcon5> sorry about the questions. Iam new to
IRC
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1017[09:35:19] <Night_Elf> Defcon5: While you are on irc, try to
give this command "/ns help register" and then see to read
the help that will appear.
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1020[09:35:43] <jpw> Defcon5 perhaps direct these questions at
#help ?
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1021[09:35:44] <Defcon5> ok
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1022[09:36:02] <jpw> the network staff are very friendly
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1033[09:40:35] <Defcon5> I think I am registered know
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1034[09:40:41] <Defcon5> now
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1036[09:41:43] <dgriffi> has anyone here successfully gotten GCC
5+ installed on Jessie?
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1039[09:42:28] <dgriffi> I have some stuff that requires it, but
when I upgraded to Stretch, all hell broke loose and xorg failed to
work.
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1045[09:45:15] <jpw> dgriffi do you mean gcc5 or the
corresponding glibc version?
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1047[09:45:30] <dgriffi> jpw: gcc5
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1049[09:45:45] <dgriffi> jpw: for example, MAME now requires gcc5
or higher to build
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1051[09:46:09] <jpw> i dont see how that would cause xorg to
fail...
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1053[09:46:32] <dgriffi> jpw: I don't think it's
GCC's fault there
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1055[09:46:58] <dgriffi> jpw: I just saw Stretch as a potentially
easy way to get GCC 5+
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1058[09:47:33] <dgriffi> jpw: anyhow, xorg fails to start on a
Thinkpad T420 with Optimus graphics
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1059[09:47:57] <sawk> Hi I'm using Debian stretch with GNOME
3 and Wyland. But since Wyland was slower than X11, I decided to
switch back to X11. But then, the Synology Cloud Sync application
does not show up anymore in the tray icon (it's covering the
space, but not showing up). Does someone know why a tray icon works
in Wayland, but not in X11.
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1060[09:48:19] <sawk> ?
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1062[09:48:48] <jpw> dgriffi: so which problem are you asking
about? installing gcc5 or getting xorg working?
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1063[09:48:58] <dgriffi> jpw: just GCC for now
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1071[09:51:23] <jpw> dgriffi: are you currently running jessie or
stretch?
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1072[09:51:27] <dgriffi> jessie
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1074[09:51:39] <jpw> gcc 5 should be available in backports
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1079[09:53:06] <dgriffi> jpw: nope
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1080[09:53:12] <jpw> yeah so I see
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1081[09:53:22] <dgriffi>
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1082[09:53:25] <jpw> uh so your choice is either upgrade to
stretch
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1083[09:53:39] <dgriffi> the last time I manually installed GCC
was back when IRIX was current
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1084[09:53:44] <jpw> or compile gcc yourself in a controlled
location such as your home directory
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1086[09:53:52] <jakefb> Hi I'm trying to have an exception
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1087[09:54:18] <TomTomTosch> you could use debootstrap and chroot
if you need a weird build environment.
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1090[09:54:41] <dgriffi> this is disturbing... I've managed
to almost max out my 1TB drive that I thought would last me at least
a couple more years
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1091[09:54:56] <jakefb> sorry wrong channel! ignore that last
message
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1095[09:55:36] <jpw> TomTomTosch: that's a good idea, why
have i never thought of that,
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1097[09:56:05] <dgriffi> jpw: will there be any potential of
weird conflicts with libc and friends?
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1099[09:57:11] <jpw> dgriffi: i'm going to say no without
any warrenty. But this is why i tell you to install it in to a
controlled location. If anything goes wrong you can log in as
another user and remove any conflicts
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1101[09:57:56] <dgriffi> any idea why gcc6 was released so
quickly after gcc5?
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1117[10:06:41] <manuelschneid3r> Does anybody here know something
about trademarks and brands and problems ocurring when the name of
free open source software is similar to a registered trademark?
(albert~alfred)
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1171[10:33:26] <holycow> running latest debian 8 jessie with all
updates and build-essential installed. i cannot compile nvidia
drivers because gcc does not match kernel.
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1173[10:33:58] <holycow> why the hell does debian EVER have
mismatching gcc and kernels in the same repo? doesn't dpkg
download the correct gcc for the correct kernel?
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1175[10:34:23] <bobe> holycow, gcc? don't you mean kernel
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1176[10:35:36] <holycow> checking error message gain
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1178[10:36:18] <holycow> nope
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1180[10:36:40] <holycow> error states gcc used for the installed
kernel was 4.8 but current repo has 4.9 installed
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1181[10:36:55] <holycow> i ran into this 10 years ago and its
crazy this still happens
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1185[10:38:58] <holycow> ah, okay gcc 4.8 is in repos ... okay.
my bad.
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1186[10:39:24] <jpw> holycow: apt-get install
linux-headers-$(uname -r)
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1188[10:39:35] <petn-randall> holycow: In general, it helps to
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1189[10:40:13] <petn-randall> holycow:
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1195[10:41:55] <holycow> apologies ... trying something first
before i polute the channel further with my yammer
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1209[10:48:26] <judd> Package linux-compiler-gcc-4.8-x86 (kernel,
optional) in jessie/amd64: Compiler for Linux on x86 (meta-package).
Version: 3.16.39-1; Size: 336.7k; Installed: 338k; Homepage:
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1253[11:05:24] <slax0r> hi, I just upgraded to 4.9.0 kernel, and
had problems with the iwlwifi firmware for 7265 (not D), the
firmware-iwlwifi lists -17.ucode, but /lib/firmware/ contains only
-16.ucode, had to manually download -17.ucode from the
OpenELEC/iwlwifi-firmware repo, could this be considered as sort of
a "bug"?
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1262[11:09:23] <halt> Hi Guys, I'm trying to execute few
simple command before shutdown on my debian jessie VM's before
systemd it was trivial that it has to be in /etc/rc6.d ( if I'm
not mistaken ) but now with systemd in place is it better to create
oneshot units with Before targets ?
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1265[11:10:38] <jpw> slax0r: which firmware exactly are you
after?
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1267[11:12:20] <jpw> slax0r: sorry i didnt read your message
properly.
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1269[11:13:22] <a6576171> Hello! I managed to select the correct
sound card but, by default, the computer always starts up with the
speakers selected. How can I manage which output I want, since they
are in the same 'sink'?
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1270[11:13:48] <a6576171> That is, I want to change the defaults.
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1271[11:14:58] <Logg> if you're using pulse, you can set the
default output device with pavucontrol
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1275[11:19:34] <jpw> slax0r: I have just extracted the package
and the -17 version of the firmware is definetly in there.
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1276[11:19:57] <slax0r> jpw: which package?
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1277[11:20:03] <slax0r> firmware-iwlwifi?
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1278[11:20:06] <jpw>
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1279[11:20:38] <slax0r> jpw: yes, it also shows in modinfo, but
/lib/firmware/ is missing the -17.ucode file
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1282[11:20:57] <slax0r> had to download
'iwlwifi-7265-17.ucode' and copy it there manually
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1301[11:22:09] <jpw> i don't know what to say then :/
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1302[11:22:29] <towo^work> slax0r, firmware-iwlwifi:
/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7265-17.ucode
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1304[11:22:51] <towo^work> it is there, wrom where you have the
4.9 kernel installed?
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1305[11:22:55] <towo^work> *from
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1306[11:23:04] <slax0r> jessie-backports
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1307[11:23:19] <towo^work> slax0r, then you need even the
firmware package from there
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1309[11:24:29] <slax0r> towo^work: installed firmware-iwlwifi
firmware-linux firmware-free and firmware-nonfree from
jessie-backports as well
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1311[11:25:00] <towo^work> slax0r, proof it
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1312[11:25:13] <slax0r> ?
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1313[11:25:15] <towo^work> apt-cache policy firmware-iwlwifi
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1318[11:27:45] <holycow> hi
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1321[11:28:05] <holycow> just a quick thanks to everyone for the
help. that allowed me to compile the driver manually
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1322[11:28:09] <holycow> have a lovely evening
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1324[11:29:14] <slax0r> towo^work: woah, my bad, I forgot to add
non-free backports to sources.list :/
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1325[11:29:22] <slax0r> thanks
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1354[11:44:21] <bibble> possbile to change debian 8 hostname
without rebooting ? [replaced-url
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1375[11:58:50] <petn-randall> bibble: Maybe, maybe not. Depends
on what issue you are seeing.
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1377[11:59:27] <petn-randall> bibble: Usually it's enough to
set it in /etc/hostname and then via 'hostname'. But
daemons need to be restartet to pick it up. That page covers all the
corner cases.
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1401[12:23:25] <klys> hi. I have modified a mkinitrd (cpio) image
to boot my new/old amd64 debian system. scripts/init-bottom attempts
mount -n -o move /dev /root/dev; which results in an error: mount:
/dev is not a block device. also pivot_root /root /root/id results
in an error: invalid argument. util-linux and mount are both version
2.29.1-1 and the binaries are taken from those packages, amd64 arch.
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1405[12:26:15] <klys> cat /proc/$$/mountinfo | head -n 1 is as
follows: 0 0:1 / / rw - rootfs rootfs rw
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1414[12:32:17] <klys> I have found a suggestion to use mount
--move :
replaced-url
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1415[12:32:18] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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1420[12:34:25] <klys> this did not fix the problem with
pivot_root: failed to change root from /root to /root/id: invalid
argument
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1421[12:35:37] <petn-randall> klys: You could try using
'mount --bind <old> <new>', or 'mount -t
devtmpfs udev /dev'.
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1424[12:36:42] <dqsii> im curios does debian have a offtopic
channel :p i use debian but i want to connect to the offtopic
channel too if its avalible :p
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1425[12:36:45] <klys> petn-randall, the mounts moved ok, I just
have to pivot_root
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1426[12:37:47] <dqsii> HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux
3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 ** Distro: Debian 8.7 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R)
Core(TM) i3-4170 CPU @ 3.70GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 3.70GHz ** RAM:
Physical: 15.7GiB, 87.5% free ** Disk: Total: 3.5TiB, 85.3% free **
VGA: 1002:68f9 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI1: HDA-Intel - HDA
Creative ** Ethernet: 10ec:8168 ** Uptime: 2h 54m 52s **
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1430[12:39:21] <themill> dqsii: yeah, don't do that...
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1431[12:39:41] <dqsii> ok just wanted to show my setup xD
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1432[12:39:43] <Deific> but the free intel :P
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1438[12:42:52] <Brigo> dqsii, yes #debian-offtopic
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1441[12:43:50] <dqsii> thanks brigo :D
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1450[12:48:23] <emeric> hello, I'm wondering, now that
stretch is frozen, do you advise upgrading to stretch or is it worth
waiting ? (for a debian desktop)
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1452[12:50:06] <bibble> thanks petn-randall . edited
/etc/hostname, homenamectl set, systemctl restart networking . all
seems ok, other than systemd logging is still using old hostname .
need to retstart some how ...
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1456[12:53:07] <Brigo> emeric, the offical answer will be you
have to wait for the oficial release. But prodived the system is
quite usefull just now, you can upgrade now and help with the final
bug extermination :)
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1461[12:57:35] <ddybing> Hi! I'm having great issues on my
Debian machine with Samba. On one share it only seems to be
transferring at about 50-60kbit/s. This specific share is on another
drive than the others. I've checked the drive and it passes all
tests. It also works at full speed when transferring locally (from
one disk to another inside the server). Any suggestions...? :(
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1463[12:57:42] <ddybing> I'm not sure if it
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1464[12:57:48] <ddybing> it's samba or Debian, or something
else wrong.
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1467[12:59:51] <emeric> Brigo: thanks for the answer :-). I think
I'm going to wait since I don't have enough time to invest
in testing
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1469[13:00:36] <Brigo> emeric, ok
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1475[13:03:51] <teraflops> ddybing: mind sharing more detailed
information?
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1478[13:05:03] <teraflops> wifi or wired? big or small files?
linux > win, linux > linux...
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1485[13:09:08] <klys> busybox pivot_root also returns an error:
pivot_root: Invalid argument
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1486[13:10:49] <ddybing> teraflops: Sure! This is over 1Gbit
wired network. The server runs Debian. The clients run Windows. A
bunch of small files will transfer at 10kbyte/s, a large file will
transfer at ~50-70kbyte/s.
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1487[13:11:10] <ddybing> 1gbit local network, to be more precise.
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1490[13:11:57] <teraflops> ddybing: so transferring files using
anything else gets better speeds?
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1492[13:12:25] <teraflops> ssh nfs http rsync nfs ...
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1500[13:14:55] <DexterF> hi
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1502[13:15:40] <DexterF> what's a good approach to make
changes to multiple machines on a regular basis? say I'd like
to change things like a config file in /home for all
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1505[13:16:35] <refeaime> Hey chat
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1507[13:17:07] <refeaime> Does here someone who could HELP me,
not do for me, with xl2tpd?
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1509[13:17:17] <teraflops> salt puppet chef ansible...
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1510[13:17:30] <teraflops> DexterF^
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1512[13:19:21] <Night_Elf> teraflops: Which would be a
recomendation between those?
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1514[13:19:53] <ddybing> teraflops: Yes, I get 100mbyte/s from
the other shares over SMB. HTTP also works at approximately the same
speed.
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1516[13:20:28] <teraflops> ugh
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1517[13:20:49] <teraflops> Night_Elf: read and make your own
opinion I think
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1518[13:21:04] <teraflops> I like ansible
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1523[13:22:05] <irc2000> is it normal to have rpcbind running?
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1524[13:22:08] <irc2000> open
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1525[13:22:20] <irc2000> I installed bind the other day and it
seems to be running some kind of service on port 111
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1527[13:23:04] <avian> irc2000, rpcbind is not related to bind
(the DNS server)
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1528[13:23:18] <irc2000> can I disable and stop rpcbind?
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1529[13:23:36] <avian> try uninstalling the "rpcbind"
packge
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1530[13:23:52] <irc2000> why do I have it in the first place?
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1531[13:24:15] <irc2000> do I need it? The docs aren't too
clear about it
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1532[13:24:23] <avian> it usually gets installed because NFS
packages depend on it.
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1535[13:24:51] <teraflops> irc2000: lsof. netstat. systemctl
list-sockets
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1538[13:25:21] <DexterF> teraflops, ty
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1540[13:26:49] <irc2000> avian: why uninstall it? why not just
disable it?
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1541[13:27:17] <avian> irc2000, you can disable it if you want. I
just uninstall it usually.
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1544[13:28:25] <irc2000> I don't allow remote access to my
server. It's easier to have the same password for the user and
root. Any problem with that?
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1546[13:29:37] <irc2000> why can't I listen to tcp-port 25
with root? nothing else is using the port
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1548[13:30:48] <peteski> Hi all, I'm a Linux (and Debian)
novice, and recently installed Stretch RC2 testing on my laptop (as
suggested by this wiki article:
replaced-url
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1550[13:31:13] <teraflops> irc2000: you cannot
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1551[13:31:21] <peteski> I had a few issues though, ones which I
wouldn't have been able to solve without a friend helping me
(one who is vastly superior)
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1552[13:31:53] <peteski> I'm trying to summarise them, and
want to report bugs etc. but I'm not sure how to find out which
'packages' they would be part of (as reportbug wants to
know).
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1558[13:32:39] * peteski knows he can just enter "other" in
reportbug, but wondered if there was a good place to search
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1562[13:34:01] <irc2000> teraflops: why not?
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1563[13:35:24] <jelly> irc2000: how exactly are you trying to
"listen to tcp-port 25 with root"
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1564[13:35:43] <irc2000> jelly: netcat -l -p 25
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1565[13:36:02] <jelly> irc2000: if you have a MTA installed, it
will listen on localhost on that port by default
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1566[13:36:11] <jelly> irc2000: which error do you get?
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1567[13:36:12] <irc2000> jelly: MTA?
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1568[13:36:24] <irc2000> Can't grab 0.0.0.0:25 with bind
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1569[13:36:52] <jelly> irc2000: telnet 127.0.0.1 25 # is there
anything already listening?
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1571[13:37:22] <irc2000> yeah, esmtp
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1572[13:37:26] <jelly> that's why.
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1573[13:37:39] <irc2000> it's a fresh install. Why do I have
this? :p
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1575[13:38:09] <jelly> because you installed something that
pulled in a MTA. Like the server task, or cron.
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1576[13:38:15] <themill> esmtp being installed doesn't sound
particularly fresh
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1578[13:38:34] <jelly> they saw ESMTP in the 25/tcp banner
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1579[13:38:43] <themill> sure
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1580[13:38:48] * jelly guesses wildly
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1585[13:39:34] <irc2000> I hope this isn't accessable from
the outside?
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1587[13:39:41] <irc2000> it doesn't seem to be. And it
shouldnt?
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1589[13:39:48] <jelly> it's not, unless you told it to.
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1591[13:40:06] <jelly> MTA will listen only on localhost by
default
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1592[13:40:08] <themill> packages have descriptions btw
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1594[13:40:51] <urzds> Hello!
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1595[13:41:10] <urzds> Where can I find the scripts that create
Debian bootable ISO images?
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1596[13:41:18] <avian> peteski, it's probably best if you
try asking on debian-user mailing list.
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1597[13:41:54] <peteski> avian: OK, will have a look into that,
thanks! I'm currently filling in a cdimage.debian.org bug :)
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1598[13:41:55] <irc2000> themill: I don't even know what
package things are
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1599[13:42:08] <themill> irc2000: you could guess and you'd
be right
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1602[13:42:59] <irc2000> themill: I don't even know what to
guess
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1603[13:43:06] <jelly> peteski: if you know a related command,
"which command" will tell you its full path, and
"dpkg -S /full/path" will tell you which package it
belongs to
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1604[13:43:24] <klys> ok I changed from pivot_root to switch_root
and it seems to be booting
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1607[13:45:29] <jelly> irc2000: use something like "ss
-tpan" or "netstat -tpan" to see which process
LISTENs on a tcp port
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1608[13:46:25] <jelly> irc2000: you can then use "lsof -n
PIDHERE" to see which binary that process was created from,
near the beginning of the output.
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1610[13:47:56] <jelly> irc2000: after that it's not hard to
figure out which package it belongs to
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1611[13:48:19] <irc2000> I see, thanks
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1612[13:48:22] <neglesaks> Hey all, does the root user have a
wastebasket directory, or are any files moved to the
"wastebasket" which in root mode just deleted? (fx. via.
nautilus run from terminal in su mode)?
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1614[13:49:15] <peteski> jelly: I'm afriad that's a bit
beyond me at present. I found an issue with the installer on the
debian stretch rs2 image. and have found a few small issues with
debian+gnome desktop.. like touch screen issues, touchpad issues,
window resize issues (on a mouse settings window)
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1616[13:49:32] <jelly> neglesaks: the right answer is probably
"avoid running GUI file browsers, or GUI anything, as
root"
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1617[13:49:36] * peteski had to install stretch rc2 as it supports his
dell xps 13 HW
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1618[13:50:03] <jelly> peteski: then file an installation report,
I guess, and enumerate all the issues
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1619[13:50:24] <jelly> !installation report
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1620[13:50:24] <dpkg> rumour has it, installation report is
replaced-url
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1621[13:50:26] <peteski> jelly: yep, I've submitted the
installer one now :)
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1623[13:50:42] <peteski> using .. reportbug
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1624[13:50:50] * peteski isn't sure how he sees said, submitted
bug
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1628[13:51:59] <teraflops> irc2000: ah I. missread I was talking
about not being able to listen < 1024 not being root
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1634[13:56:14] <refeaime> Hello again, What am i doing wrong?
replaced-url
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1635[13:56:44] <jelly> not explaining at least some context, and
forcing one to click on the link first, is also wrong
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1636[13:56:58] <jelly> !ask
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1637[13:56:58] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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1649[14:02:00] <refeaime> =\
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1650[14:02:00] <refeaime> Ok
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1652[14:03:07] <refeaime> I am have a problem with xl2tp,
runnings debian jessie, 3.16.0-4-686-pae, My config files and
console output is here
replaced-url
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1653[14:03:19] <refeaime> I need l2tp server runnings.
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1655[14:03:43] <jelly> thanks. Now I know I don't have to
click it, because I know nothing about L2TP
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1656[14:03:43] <refeaime> and did not really get what it need to
be done with network it that case
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1657[14:04:21] <refeaime> jelly: 2ltp - VPN, using ppp
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1659[14:04:42] <refeaime> And for encryption sometimes using
IPSec
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1660[14:04:59] <refeaime> I no need IPSec
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1661[14:05:03] <jelly> (yeah, I know what it is, but have never
worked with it, so maybe someone who has a clue can actually look)
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1663[14:05:53] * peteski received an email with the submission and bug
# in!
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1664[14:05:59] <refeaime> jelly: yea... thats the problem... No
one usually using l2tp. OpenVPN or IPSec is more popular. And ai do
know how to configure openVPN.
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1666[14:06:10] <refeaime> But not in l2tp...
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1667[14:06:14] <refeaime> ugh...
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1674[14:07:45] <refeaime> Damn...
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1684[14:09:51] <jelly> refeaime: dunno, try ##networking ?
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1686[14:10:46] <refeaime> jelly: what do you mean?
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1689[14:11:39] <xthree> ./join #networking
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1691[14:12:08] <jelly> refeaime: it's another channel on
this irc network, type /join ##networking
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1692[14:12:16] <jelly> and ask there as well
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1693[14:12:27] <refeaime> jelly: oh, not i get that. Thank you.
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1735[14:34:30] <dgriffi> where would be a good place to post
questions about why Stretch's xorg won't work on a
Thinkpad T420?
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1740[14:36:33] <jelly> dgriffi: model with intel only, or dual
gpu (whcih)?
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1742[14:36:42] <dgriffi> jelly: dual
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1743[14:36:42] <jelly> !debian-next
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1744[14:36:43] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1745[14:37:09] <jelly> dgriffi: simplest thing to do, if you can
disable nvidia in BIOS, do that
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1754[14:40:44] <jaymar> hi all! at work we have our own
repository. I created a new package of some software and
successfully uploaded it. I can see the file in the repo. However
after apt-get update I don't see the new version available.
Where should I look for the issue?
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1773[14:48:02] <donavan01> im running kali and after doing
apt-get update then apt-get upgrade I now have no icons on my
desktop and anytime I run a program the system kicks me out to the
logon screen
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1775[14:48:42] <towo^work> wrong channel
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1776[14:48:50] <towo^work> this is #debian, not #kali
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1777[14:49:00] <teraflops> donavan01: please ask in #kali or
whatever, this channel is for debian
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1778[14:49:25] <slax0r> #kali-linux according to kali.org
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1788[14:54:13] <donavan01> yeah I know but kali is debian based
and no one is talking in #kali-linux so I hoped maybe someone in
here had seen such a problem
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1789[14:54:35] <babilen> dpkg: based on debian
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1790[14:54:36] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have
software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare
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1791[14:54:50] <babilen> donavan01: Use Debian if you like
support in here. You'd be more than welcome!
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1804[15:02:12] <jaymar> can someone help me please? I uploaded a
new version using dput, but after apt-get update I dont see it.
Where should I look for?
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1811[15:05:49] <babilen> jaymar: Uploaded it where?
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1857[15:41:42] <ikeigenwijs> hello, did a apt-get update ->
upgrade: i got INIT: cannot execute
"/usr/sbin/runsvdir-start"
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1858[15:41:42] <ikeigenwijs> INIT: Id "SV" respawning
too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
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1859[15:41:42] <ikeigenwijs> and no services starting
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1860[15:42:01] <petn-randall> ikeigenwijs: On which release?
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1861[15:42:04] <ikeigenwijs> i can get on the server with xl
console
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1863[15:42:37] <ikeigenwijs> debian jessie kernel 3.16.0-4
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1865[15:43:17] <ikeigenwijs> its a virtual server using xen and
lvm disk, dident change anything on that side
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1866[15:43:32] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: does
"/usr/sbin/runsvdir-start" exist?
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1867[15:43:49] <jelly> is runit installed at all?
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1868[15:44:04] <ikeigenwijs> i cant find errors in the log except
some message using gnome but its a command line server, and i cant
deinstall the gnome packages askes for internet to tdo that
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1871[15:44:49] <ikeigenwijs> i did not install it manually,
server runs for several years now went last year from weezy to
jessie
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1875[15:45:56] <jelly> having runit or daemontools isn't a
default setup, and neither is running sysvinit on jessie. Can you
provide answers to those two questions
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1876[15:46:01] <ikeigenwijs> ls /jelly: i got
/usr/sbin/runsvchdir
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1878[15:46:18] <jelly> that's not /usr/sbin/runsvdir-start
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1879[15:46:24] <ikeigenwijs> ls /jelly: so no
/usr/sbin/runsvdir-start
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1880[15:46:31] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: is runit package installed?
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1881[15:46:36] <jelly> dpkg -l runit | tail -n 1
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1882[15:46:36] <dpkg> ii runit | tail -n 1 2.3-4 jelly's
private stamp collection
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1883[15:46:55] <jelly> if not, install it back
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1884[15:47:11] <ikeigenwijs> jelly: yes runit is reeds de
nieuwste versie (2.1.2-9). latest version
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1885[15:47:15] <jelly> if it is, some of its files are missing
and it's probably a good idea to reinstall it
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1886[15:47:24] <jelly> ,v runit
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1887[15:47:25] <judd> Package: runit on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.1.1-6.2; jessie: 2.1.2-3; sid: 2.1.2-9; stretch: 2.1.2-9
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1888[15:47:32] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: -9 ?
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1890[15:48:14] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: sounds like you had stretch
or sid repos enabled and you did an upgrade.
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1891[15:48:15] <ikeigenwijs> hmm i dont use stretch only stable
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1892[15:48:31] <jelly> correction: you THOUGHT you didn't
use stretch or sid
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1893[15:48:40] <ikeigenwijs> thx for the right direction, i ll
look in to it, looking for hours ;-)
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1894[15:48:48] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: "apt-cache policy"
will tell you which repos are enabled
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1900[15:49:35] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: it's a bad idea to even
have newer repos listed in an installation of stable (jessie at
present time)
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1902[15:49:48] <ikeigenwijs> jelly, ho wcan i undo that i see
testing listed, cant be good
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1903[15:50:08] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: restore the whole machine
from backup/snapshot if you have it
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1904[15:50:12] <jelly> there's no undo
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1908[15:50:43] <ikeigenwijs> no snapshot :-s
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1914[15:53:38] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: make a clone, then
investigate whether going fully to "stretch" is an option
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1917[15:54:10] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: if you're really
desperate, try a partial downgrade
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1921[15:54:31] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: /msg dpkg partial downgrade
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1922[15:54:39] <ikeigenwijs> jelly: i did not do a dist-upgrade
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1924[15:55:01] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: doesn't matter at all
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1931[15:55:46] <ikeigenwijs> jelly: so go to stretch to get it
working again can i go back then? or need to follow until it becomes
stable?
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1933[15:55:54] <jelly> if you had testing or stretch repo
enabled, your "apt-get upgrade" would have pulled in
dozens-hundreds of newer version from there
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1934[15:56:07] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: you can't go back
easily.
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1936[15:56:33] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: however, if you follow
stretch, you'll keep using stretch even when it becomes stable
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1938[15:57:03] <jelly> that's one of the reasons it's
recommended to use code names in sources.list, not
"stable" or "testing"
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1939[15:57:11] <ikeigenwijs> jelly: ok thx for the info i realy
wonder how testing and stretch got on ther, i never use those and im
the only one with permission
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2029[16:45:56] <irc2000> is there any point in enabling UFW if
you don't have any ports open anyway?
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2032[16:46:11] <irc2000> I have no ports open, none. yet I have
ufw enabled.
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2034[16:46:52] <tw> it also blocks outgoing, if you configure it.
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2040[16:48:20] <irc2000> tw: I'm a total noob. Do I want to
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2041[16:48:25] <irc2000> it's a web server
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2044[16:48:53] <colo-work> [16:45:56] <irc2000> is there
any point in enabling UFW if you don't have any ports open
anyway? - usually, no
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2046[16:49:28] <Jaami> this page
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2048[16:49:56] <tw> irc2000: If you're new, don't
bother blocking outgoing as it doesn't help much and might give
you confusing problems later when you forget your firewall is
blocking things.
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2049[16:50:01] <jelly> ikeigenwijs: if you choose to test going
to stratch, read /msg dpkg jessie->stretch
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2051[16:50:44] <tw> irc2000: leaving UFW on gives you some
"oops" protection if you accidentally configure a service
as listening to all interfaces and didn't intend it.
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2052[16:51:01] <irc2000> tw: true
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2054[16:51:26] <irc2000> tw: if I block outgoing, how am I going
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2056[16:51:46] <irc2000> tw: blocking outgoing is a good idea.
But on the other hand, if I have an intruder they can just unblock
it.
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2058[16:52:41] <tw> If they have a root escalation, it's
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2063[16:54:46] <irc2000> better safe than sorry. So I need to
find out what ports the updating software is using and unblock that?
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2067[16:56:36] <Jaami> hi, im learning basics of debian. how to
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background and text color?
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2073[16:58:05] <tw> irc2000: I really wouldn't bother
blocking outgoing if you're new to firewall configuration,
it's a good way to get locked out of a remote system for pretty
low gains.
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2089[17:03:26] <jaymar> hi! I uploaded a new version of a corrupt
package to a private repo, how I can remove it easily?
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2104[17:13:24] <irc2000> tw: I have physical access to the server
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2115[17:17:11] <jelly> jaymar: rm? :-)
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2118[17:18:10] <jaymar> jelly, is it enough to just rm the
files??
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2120[17:18:36] <petn-randall> jaymar: Depends a little on your
repo software you use.
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2123[17:18:57] <jelly> jaymar: no, but that's enough to stop
users from being able to download it
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2126[17:19:11] <sonu_nk> i am installing webmin on ubutnu
server.. but when i tried lsb_release -a it is showing me " No
LSB modules are available. | Distributor ID: Debian | Description:
Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 (jessie) | Release: 8.6"
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2131[17:21:11] <jelly> sonu_nk: that doesn't sound like an
ubuntu system, eh?
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2132[17:21:23] <sonu_nk> jelly, yes
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2134[17:21:55] <Jaami> hi , why all wiki urls are blocked for me?
"forbidden , You are not allowed to access this"
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2138[17:23:29] <petn-randall> Jaami: Which wiki URLs?
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2139[17:23:38] <Jaami> debial help pages are mostly on wiki and i
need to use
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2141[17:23:41] <zykotick9> Jaami: i doubt the issue is on the
debian server side. are you behind some corporate-firewall or
something?
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2144[17:23:55] <Jaami>
replaced-url
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2145[17:24:06] <zykotick9> petn-randall: Jaami gave
replaced-url
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2150[17:24:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jelly
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2151[17:24:34] <Jaami> i use my personal laptop and just
installed debian today, have no idea if any firewall is set
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2156[17:25:34] <petn-randall> Jaami: There won't be any from
Debian, but maybe you network access (university/company/country)
has one.
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2157[17:25:36] <zykotick9> Jaami: sorry. debian doesn't have
a firewall turned on be default. i was asking if your connection to
the internet was from a company (that might be blocking wiki
pages)...
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2158[17:25:42] <Jaami> yes, i believe wiwki url works for
everybody but why not for me?
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2161[17:26:47] <Jaami> i used same usb net on windows and centos
for years and there was no such problem
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2164[17:27:51] <Jaami> i have 2 laptops and on other laptop i
have access to wiki pages on windows
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2167[17:28:26] <RafiX> hello
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2171[17:29:28] <Jaami> i dont know if booting debian from usb is
the the reason i dont have access to wiki pages. really, dont make
any sense to me
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2172[17:29:46] <RafiX> i wanted to install debian testing for my
friend. Using latest iso. Installation went okay, but when we
rebooted there was no windows in grub and when booting debian
monitor goes into sleep mode and thats all
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2174[17:30:18] <petn-randall> RafiX: I'd stick with stable
for now unless you want to beta-test stretch.
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2175[17:30:42] <Jaami> zykotick9: its impossible that my isp is
blocking wiki pages.
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2177[17:30:59] <petn-randall> RafiX: Sounds like the installer
might not have been prepared properly. How did you make the usb
stick?
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2178[17:31:00] <at0m|c> Jaami: can you browse other website?
debian.org?
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2179[17:31:46] <Jaami> at0m|c: yes, debian.org works
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2180[17:31:52] <RafiX> petn-randall: rufus on windows
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2181[17:32:14] <petn-randall> !rufus
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2182[17:32:15] <dpkg> rufus is a tool that can be used to make
bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use
with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and
unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about
<hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
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2183[17:32:27] <petn-randall> RafiX: Try using wind32diskimager.
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2184[17:32:38] <petn-randall> *win32diskimager
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2185[17:33:00] <Jaami> btw, rufus is not recommended under
windows either
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2189[17:34:10] <Jaami> neither unetbootin was recommended to me ,
the last thing that worked for me was netinstall
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2194[17:36:18] <Jaami>
replaced-url
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2199[17:38:14] <Jaami> at0m|c: what should i do for wiki pages?
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2202[17:38:54] <at0m|c> Jaami: i'd try if dig/nslookup/ping
works on it
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2204[17:39:09] <at0m|c> just to make sure you can resolve it ok
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2210[17:41:43] <Jaami> ping works for wiki.debian.org but firefox
does not. i guess i should leave it for now. i have to install
virtualbox that is more important
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2229[17:45:49] <mahmoudgebril> v
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2230[17:45:50] <mahmoudgebril> 9 11 attacks, Did USA do it itself
or it just let it happen?
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2231[17:45:51] <mahmoudgebril> Did USA administration murder 3000
American citizen in 9 11 attacks to justify starting a war against
iraq?
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2232[17:45:51] <mahmoudgebril> If al-qaeda did it, why go to kill
2 million Iraqi?
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2233[17:45:51] <mahmoudgebril>
replaced-url
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2234[17:45:51] <mahmoudgebril>
replaced-url
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2235[17:45:51] <mahmoudgebril> Some of the benefits Americans say
they achieved after 9 11 attacks include:
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2236[17:45:51] <mahmoudgebril> *constant flow of oil, which price
is in continuous decline. Trump said he will simply take the Iraqi
oil, and when he was told that Iraqi oil belongs to iraq he said
there is no iraq(after usa destroyed it ).
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2247[17:48:07] <Jaami> what is the best option to reverse any
changes made by install?
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2249[17:48:34] <Jaami> is there a way to make snapshots of my
debian system?
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2250[17:48:37] <mtn_> Jaami: install of what?
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2252[17:48:55] <Jaami> any package, like virtualbox that require
backports
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2253[17:49:39] <mtn_> Jaami: you can make backups/snapshots, or
reverse the steps you took when you installed something
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2255[17:50:13] <Jaami> oh ok, how to make backups/snapshots?
please tell me
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2256[17:50:13] <jpw> Jaami: official packages are very good at
deleting any file it creates. You can remove with --purge switch to
also remove configs from /etc
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2257[17:51:06] <mtn_> Jaami: you can easily research how to do
that using a search engine
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2258[17:51:07] <Jaami> safest way and easy for me is the
snapshot/backup without struggling with commands
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2261[17:52:08] <jpw> Jaami: two of my favourites are rsnapshot
and lvm2 snapshots
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2262[17:52:16] <Jaami> mtn_: yes, sorry , i see some issues with
wiki pages. anyway i should try search engine
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2263[17:52:51] <Jaami> oh ok jpw thats what i needed to know. now
i can find more details
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2270[17:54:46] <RafiX> okay, so i got debian running
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2272[17:55:08] <RafiX> but it's missing driver for graphics
card
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2273[17:55:33] <mtn_> RafiX: what card?
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2274[17:55:39] <RafiX> the driver is in the repos of stretch, but
apt can't install it
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2275[17:55:50] <RafiX> mtn_: geforce 8600 gso
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2276[17:56:08] <mtn_> RafiX: is the driver in backports?
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2280[17:56:22] <mtn_> !debian-backports
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2281[17:56:22] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly
backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for
the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable
(<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian
developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read
replaced-url
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2284[17:56:55] <RafiX> mtn_: in jessie yes
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2285[17:57:01] <RafiX> but not in stretch
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2289[17:57:27] <mtn_> RafiX: you just said it was in stretch. I
am confused
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2292[17:58:10] <RafiX> it's in: jessie-backports, stretch,
sid
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2293[17:58:33] <mtn_> RafiX: ok, so why not install it?
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2294[17:59:05] <mtn_> RafiX: aren't you using jessie?
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2295[17:59:08] <RafiX> mtn_: apt don't it
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2296[17:59:20] <RafiX> mtn_: it's my friends pc
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2297[17:59:31] <mtn_> RafiX: what version of debian is running on
it?
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2301[17:59:42] <RafiX> mtn_: latest testing
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2302[17:59:55] <mtn_> RafiX: you just said testing has the driver
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2304[18:00:06] <RafiX> it has
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the sources?
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2312[18:03:22] <RafiX> OH FOR GOD SAKE
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2321[18:07:57] <klys> well i had a disk with windows 7 on it
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2323[18:08:04] <klys> and then I ran gpart
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2324[18:08:39] <klys> there were two partitions on the disk
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2329[18:09:55] <klys> the start and end sectors of those two
partitions show the same under gpt as they did with fdisk -l before
the operation
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2333[18:10:40] <klys> the types read "microsoft basic
data."
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2335[18:10:52] <klys> both were ntfs partitions
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punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to
follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '.
', ';', '...', '---', or
':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be
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2351[18:14:12] <dethegeek> Hi, I'm getting 2 problems after
2 upgrades since 2 weeks. I'm using Debian Sid, and I saw I
should ask on #debian-next. However it seels this channel is
accessible by invitation only. How shall I proceed ?
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2352[18:14:12] <klys> the gdisk command I ran was "f load
MBR and build fresh GPT from it" and presumably since my kernel
re-read the disk it should be able to read the partitions. I have
tried mounting them with ntfs-3g and kernel ntfs, both of which log
a segfault in dmesg | tail; and fail to mount the partition.
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2358[18:15:15] <klys> dethegeek, that channel is on oftc.
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2360[18:16:32] <dethegeek> klys: thank you, then is this channel
the right place ?
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2362[18:17:15] <klys> dethegeek, you may want to type /connect
irc.oftc.net and /join #debian-next
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2366[18:18:51] <babilen> dpkg: otherchannel dethegeek
#debian-next irc.oftc.net
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2367[18:18:51] <dpkg> dethegeek: The channel you are looking for
is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. Please do /server irc.oftc.net and
then /join #debian-next. If your client supports it, you can also
right-click the following link and choose connect:
irc://irc.oftc.net/#debian-next
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2368[18:19:16] <dethegeek> thank you
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2372[18:20:09] <decci_> I want to send mail to my corporate ID
from one of system running debian
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2375[18:20:30] <decci_> using echo "Hello" | mail -s
"Hi" <emailid>
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2383[18:23:36] <petn-randall> decci_: And what happens when you
do that?
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2384[18:24:36] <decci_> What package do I need to install?
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2385[18:24:40] <decci_> there is no mail command
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2390[18:24:59] <decci_> petn-randall: what package provides that?
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2392[18:25:31] <petn-randall> decci_: I don't know, but if
you install "command-not-found", it'll tell you every
time you execute a command that doesn't exist.
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2395[18:26:08] <decci_> petn-randall: cool...mailutils
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2396[18:27:11] <decci_> petn-randall: I am running wordpress. Do
I need to configure SMTP
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2397[18:27:22] <decci_> petn-randall: so that wordpress app can
send email
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2399[18:28:00] <TomTomTo1> mail is a symlink to any mail user
agent. can be mutt, or bsd mail or whatever.
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2403[18:29:09] <petn-randall> decci_: 'mail' usually
doesn't do SMTP, but uses maildrop.
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2404[18:29:34] <hmuller> I erred and removed configuration file
backups from the system on my main machine. I can connect to wifi,
but it appears that I cannot properly resolve names. Any pointers on
troubleshooting?
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2405[18:29:37] <decci_> petn-randall: How will I be able to send
mail using wordpress
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2406[18:29:56] <decci_> petn-randall: What if I configure this
machine as SMTP
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2413[18:31:47] <BlueByte> moin zusammen, welchen ftp nehm ich
denn für chroot und ggf. mit SSL Unterstützung?
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2414[18:32:32] <at0m|c> !german
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2415[18:32:32] <dpkg> Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in
#debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) -
German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net,
irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de).
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2416[18:33:05] <BlueByte> oh ok, no Problem. Which ftp should i
take for change root und maybe SSL?
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2419[18:33:55] <jpw> BlueByte: vsftpd
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2420[18:34:14] <BlueByte> Also for ssl? or just chroot?
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2421[18:34:16] <decci_> petn-randall: any idea?
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2422[18:34:23] <jpw> BlueByte: supports both
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2424[18:34:31] <BlueByte> ok thank, i have a look.
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2425[18:34:42] <decci_> petn-randall: I have installed a plugin
but it is asking for SMTp option
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2426[18:35:28] <klys> on the ntfs partitions, grub can still see
my files, except that it will not boot due to a data error of some
kind. mounting prodices this message in dmesg: [ 8664.064981] traps:
mount.ntfs[13085] general protection ip:7f50e9e77bdf sp:7ffc0aa8d490
error:0
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2429[18:36:23] <jpw> klys: are you sure you're not
attempting to mount the the windows 'system' hidden
partition
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2430[18:36:35] <klys> it has two partitions, neither will mount
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2432[18:37:03] <jpw> was bcrypt enabled?
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2433[18:37:10] <jpw> bitlocker i mean
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2435[18:37:15] <klys> no
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2440[18:40:02] <hmuller> back, looking for a little help
troubleshooting dns (name resolution)
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2442[18:40:19] <jpw> klys: i dont understand, are you trying to
boot this device or mount it?
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2443[18:41:18] <klys> jpw, I tried both, thank to virt-manager
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2446[18:41:39] <klys> jpw, I'd most prefer to mount it
though
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2451[18:44:07] <jpw> can you paste the output of 'sudo
parted /dev/device' print command?
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2454[18:45:13] <klys> jpw,
replaced-url
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2456[18:47:00] <jpw> and `mount.ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt
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2457[18:47:04] <jpw> does not work?
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2460[18:47:28] <klys> Segmentation fault
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2461[18:48:21] <jpw> whats the version of ntfs-3g?
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2462[18:48:38] <decci_> I have wordpress running on one of Linux
machine. I have added a plugin which accept user registration and
send email for email confirmation
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2463[18:48:45] <decci_> Now I want user to register and they
should receive email in the corporate email id like varun@xyz.com
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2464[18:48:46] <klys> upgrading the ntfs-3g package now :
(1:2016.2.22AR.1-3) over (1:2010.8.8-0ubuntu1)
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2465[18:48:51] <decci_> Do I need to install sendmail or
configure SMTP?
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2467[18:48:56] <decci_> What config do I need to make to this
Linux machine?
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2468[18:49:15] <klys> jpw, there is still a Segmentation fault
with this version
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2470[18:49:38] <jpw> klys: are you on stretch? can you paste the
last ~100 lines of `mount -t ntfs -o debug /dev/sda2 /mnt`
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2472[18:51:32] <klys> jpw,
replaced-url
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2473[18:52:38] <klys> that's strange it's using
libc-2.19
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2474[18:54:45] <klys> jpw,
replaced-url
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2476[18:55:04] <klys> oh
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2493[18:57:46] <jpw> that looks like a lead, it also looks like
you're using ubuntu
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2495[18:57:52] <mahmoudgebril> 9 11 attacks, Did USA do it itself
or it just let it happen?
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2496[18:57:52] <mahmoudgebril> Did USA administration murder 3000
American citizen in 9 11 attacks to justify starting a war against
iraq?
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2497[18:57:52] <mahmoudgebril> If al-qaeda did it, why go to kill
2 million Iraqi?
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2498[18:57:52] <mahmoudgebril>
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2499[18:57:52] <mahmoudgebril>
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2500[18:57:52] <mahmoudgebril> Some of the benefits Americans say
they achieved after 9 11 attacks include:
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2503[18:58:02] <klys> jpw, sorry about that
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2512[19:03:52] <unborn> decci_: i think wordpress uses mail php
function
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2513[19:04:30] <decci_> unborn: tested php mail function but it
is not sending any email to my gmail or corporate account
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2514[19:04:33] <tw> Does sshd's config option
HostCertificate have a default value on openssh-server 7.4 (jessie)?
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2516[19:04:57] <unborn> decci_: there can be numerous reasons..
phpmail is installed?
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2517[19:05:14] <decci_> unborn: is that the pkg?
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2519[19:05:43] <unborn> decci_: its php module
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2522[19:06:16] <unborn> ah sorry
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2524[19:06:27] <unborn> for that you dont need any module i just
realised
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2525[19:06:55] <unborn> decci_: check your dns - dkim and spf
records and check if your servers ip is not blacklisted
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2528[19:07:22] <unborn> decci_: is that installed on proper
server or just on your machine?
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2536[19:08:39] <hmuller> ok, made a little progress. netstat -rn
should yield two lines right? one from local to gateway, other from
gateway to local?
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2539[19:09:19] <unborn> decci_: perhaps check if you have
sendmail installed
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2540[19:09:21] <unborn> which sendmail
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2551[19:13:04] <BlueByte> i got 530 Login incorrect. with all
user in the new installed vsftpd how do i debug this?
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2553[19:13:21] <lilibox> hi
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2554[19:13:38] <lilibox> what is the most straigh way how to
mount vfat usb disk?
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2555[19:14:22] <lilibox> i am running 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP
Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u2 (2016-10-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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2558[19:15:06] <hmuller> lilibox: but the flashdrive in an open
port then run: $ dmesg | tail, that will give you the device. Then
...
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2560[19:15:47] <hmuller> lilibox: run $ sudo mount
/dev/<DEVICE> /mnt, then you can view all files at /mnt
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2562[19:16:26] <SunOS> hello
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2563[19:16:47] <SunOS> i add this script into /etc/init.d/
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2564[19:16:48] <SunOS>
replaced-url
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2565[19:16:55] <SunOS> but when i try to run it
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2566[19:17:19] <SunOS> give it to me a erro
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2567[19:17:20] <SunOS> r
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2568[19:17:25] <sypher> !enter
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2569[19:17:25] <dpkg> The enter key is not a substitute for
punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to
follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '.
', ';', '...', '---', or
':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be
autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel.
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2570[19:17:27] <lilibox> hmuller: thank you, after that i
obtained this: mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat'
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2571[19:17:37] <SunOS> Starting webircgateway (via systemctl):
webircgateway.serviceFailed to start webircgateway.service: Unit
webircgateway.service failed to load: No such file or directory.
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2572[19:17:37] <SunOS> failed!
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2580[19:20:46] <hmuller> lilibox: does running $ sudo modprobe
vfat, help?
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2581[19:21:14] <lilibox> hmuller: modprobe: ERROR: could not
insert 'vfat': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown
parameter (see dmesg)
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2584[19:22:41] <lilibox> hmuller: dmesg log says USB disk is
sdc1, so, seems like HW detection works, just vfat is not supported
seems like, dunno
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2588[19:23:24] <towo`> lilibox, you have done a kernel-update but
not rebooted after?
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2592[19:23:47] <hmuller> lilibox: what does: $ sudo modinfo vfat,
say?
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2594[19:24:07] <lilibox> hmuller: towo` : i found also this
/sbin/mkfs.vfat
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2596[19:24:29] <hmuller> lilibox: that's just a filesystem
tool to create dos filesystems
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2598[19:24:34] <lilibox> and modinfo vfat: filename:
/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/fs/fat/vfat.ko
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2601[19:25:03] <tw> To answer my own question, it doesn't
appear there is a default value of HostCertificate.
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2602[19:25:26] <lilibox> hmuller: towo` :
replaced-url
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2603[19:25:50] <towo`> lilibox, this does not answer my question
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2606[19:26:29] <hmuller> lilibox: ok, you have the module. it is
not clear why it is not loading
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2607[19:26:50] <towo`> [19:23:24] <towo`> lilibox, you have
done a kernel-update but not rebooted after?
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2612[19:28:51] <lilibox> towo`: hmm, maybe, my system runs long
time, and during this period i upgraded manytimes, but no restarts
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2615[19:29:13] <towo`> lilibox, then reboot and try again
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2617[19:29:38] <lilibox> ok, lemme wish luck then, :) it is
performing remote restart :)
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2618[19:29:44] <hmuller> towo`: good catch
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2619[19:30:06] <lilibox> i hope system will boot in right order
:)
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2627[19:32:43] <rackonnoiter> Hello, all. Any reported issues
with encrypted lvm from the graphical installer?
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2632[19:34:05] <teraflops> rackonnoiter: who knows, go read the
bug tracker?
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2633[19:34:35] <rackonnoiter> Figured I would check here really
quick to see if it was mentioned recently.
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2634[19:34:40] <rackonnoiter> Thanks, teraflops
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2635[19:34:47] <teraflops> np
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2637[19:35:08] <lilibox> hi again, guys, thank for your services
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2638[19:35:15] <lilibox> it works
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2639[19:35:24] <lilibox> usb disc mounted
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2640[19:35:32] <hmuller> alright, I learned that I am missing the
default route to the gateway, adding it manually resolves the
immediate problem, but why would it be missing in the first place?
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2644[19:36:14] <tw> hmuller: I'd guess your dhcp server
didn't give you one, or your static config is in need of
update.
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2647[19:36:16] <rackonnoiter> dhcp?
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2650[19:39:13] <hmuller> lilibox: congrats, so reboot after
kernel upgrades? ;)
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2659[19:42:44] <tw> The debian 9 rc2 text installer doesn't
give me the option to set up the second interface, do I need to do
an expert install to bring up the second nic?
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2660[19:42:52] <lilibox> hmuller: yes, but does exist anyother
way? when I don't want reboot device?
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2664[19:45:31] <hmuller> lilibox: that might be more complicated,
than you want. google "upgrade kernel without reboot" and
read the first link
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2667[19:46:18] <teraflops> lilibox: yeah rebooting is a good idea
but if you just want to check things modprobing the old kernel
driver should work
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2669[19:47:14] <teraflops> lilibox: anyway youll have to reboot
eventually, if you dont want to, dont install new kernels ^
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2677[19:52:01] <lilibox> yes
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2703[20:06:15] <jackyboy4> i need your help.
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2729[20:18:01] <st3fann> Hey there, I have a server running with
a bunch of users running rtorrent, and I want to know why my load is
SO high. Peaks at like 30, 40, 50, usually over 4 at least. The CPU
use is very low, ram is below 10%, I think it's the I/O, but
iotop reads that the disk read is at 20MB/s which is far below SATA
capacity
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2734[20:18:17] <st3fann> I really don't know how to diagnose
what is going on, could be a possible HDD failure
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2744[20:21:35] <hmuller> figured out the missing route issue.
Thanks those of you that provided hints. Took a close look, found
dhcplient.conf missing. Reinstalled isc-dhcp-(client|common) and all
is back to normal
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2747[20:22:20] <mutante> st3fann: if you want to diagnose if a
HDD is going bad, you might want to check
"smartctl"/"smartmontools"
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2749[20:22:43] <st3fann> mutante: that is the most possible
scenario, eh? I thought so too
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2751[20:23:17] <mutante> st3fann: i don't know, but at least
the part that it's I/O and not CPU
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2753[20:23:54] <st3fann> mutante: I have both drives running in
RAID0 as well, will that make a difference? and it's a
colocated server so don't have physical access. Though I can
get them to replace hard drives
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2754[20:24:45] <mutante> high load by itself doesnt necessarily
mean it's a problem
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2755[20:24:52] <mutante> just means many processes are waiting
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2756[20:25:21] <st3fann> It is, the web interface is lagging,
even SSH takes double or triple the time to authenticate and lags
out as well
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2759[20:26:42] <jpw> st3fann: its possible the server just has
rubbish disks
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2760[20:26:56] <mutante> what you can do is look at output of ps,
like ps -ev, to get the "STAT" column
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2761[20:27:44] <st3fann> jpw: Very likely actually, but ones that
READ this slow? like 20MB/s is the peak this morning and loads are
alread yabove 5
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2764[20:28:05] <jpw> i would expect high load with multiple users
with multiple torrents. each one competing for disk io. with bad
disks this would just compound the issue even with raid0
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2765[20:28:33] <st3fann> 6 users at the moment, I would assume
average of 100-200 torrents each
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2768[20:28:54] <st3fann> It is a tad high, but I used to run the
same with 8+ users on a WORSE spec server, and this was in 2012
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2769[20:28:59] <jpw> st3fann: do a `lsof | wc -l` what do you
get?
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2776[20:29:42] <st3fann> jpw: still running, I guess it takes a
while?
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2777[20:29:54] <jpw> no it should be instant
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2778[20:30:07] <st3fann> Been running into a lot of that lately
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2779[20:30:08] <jpw> well sub second
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2781[20:30:10] <missmbob> call your provider
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2785[20:30:38] <st3fann>
replaced-url
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2786[20:30:42] <st3fann> ah nice finally
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2787[20:30:46] <SamsaraSoup> Hi all, I could really use some help
trying to VNC to my debian machine.
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2788[20:30:53] <st3fann> jpw: 11607
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2791[20:31:24] <st3fann> SamsaraSoup: what specifically do you
need help with
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2792[20:32:25] <jpw> st3fann: and iotop will show you actiove io.
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2793[20:32:45] <st3fann> jpw: yeah I was looking at iotop
earlier, take a look at this
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2794[20:32:56] <st3fann> 20:32:48 up 2 days, 22:56, 1 user, load
average: 7.15, 7.55, 7.20
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2795[20:33:09] <SamsaraSoup> st3fann, I followed a tutorial and
believe I have vncserver running correctly. I've enabled vnc
access through the firewall but I still can't get access from
my other computer.
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2796[20:33:12] <st3fann> Disk read is bouncing between 5-18MB/s
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2797[20:33:53] <jpw> st3fann: have you installed smartmontools?
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2798[20:34:06] <st3fann> jpw:
replaced-url
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2799[20:34:08] <st3fann> just installed it
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2804[20:35:12] <jpw> and the status?
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2805[20:35:24] <Iridos> SamsaraSoup, try to connect to it from
the same machine it's running on
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2806[20:35:25] <st3fann> what do I run it with? -l >
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2810[20:36:27] <st3fann> jpw:
replaced-url
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2814[20:38:15] <LiENUS> is there a way to install
openjdk-8-jre-headless right now?
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2816[20:38:33] <LiENUS> ca-certificates-java is marked breaks and
openjdk wont install without it
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2817[20:38:38] <jpw> st3fann: smartctl -a /dev/sda
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2821[20:39:28] <st3fann> Error Counter logging not supported
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2822[20:39:28] <st3fann> Device does not support Self Test
logging
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2823[20:39:30] <st3fann> jpw: same output :/
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2824[20:39:40] <st3fann> with that appended
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2825[20:39:56] <jpw> i've just noticed that the smart status
is unavailable because of the raid controller.
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2828[20:40:11] <Iridos> what do you mean "marked
breaks"
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2830[20:40:23] <LiENUS> Iridos,
replaced-url
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2831[20:40:24] <st3fann> jpw: yep :/ is that the test method?
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2832[20:40:24] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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2833[20:40:42] <st3fann> jpw: I recall going into recovery years
ago to test for hardware failure, that was with a different provider
though
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2834[20:40:44] <SamsaraSoup> Iridos, I tried from the same
machine and I noticed the ip address that I enter changes by itself?
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2835[20:40:51] <LiENUS> and near as i can tell theres yet to be a
fixed ca-certificates-java uploaded
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2837[20:41:42] <missmbob> LiENUS: the last entry in the bug
report shows you how someone fixed it #851667
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2838[20:41:46] <jpw> st3fann: the only thing I can suggest is to
remove all load from the server and write a file double the size of
your total ram to disk (to prevent caching) and see if you get the
expected throughput.
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2840[20:42:19] <jpw> if something looks off call your provider.
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2843[20:42:32] <st3fann> jpw: I just saw the option for rebooting
into recovery, I think that has a web interface with disk testing
options, will try that and let them know the results
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2844[20:42:39] <SamsaraSoup> Iridos, I enter 192.168.0.140 and it
replaces it with 192.168.0.9:5900
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2845[20:42:44] <jpw> kk
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2846[20:42:53] <st3fann> jpw: thanks so much for your help!
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2847[20:43:50] <Iridos> judd, versions ca-certificates-java
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2848[20:43:52] <judd> Package: ca-certificates-java on amd64 --
wheezy: 20121112+nmu2; jessie: 20140324; jessie-backports:
20161107~bpo8+1; stretch: 20161107; sid: 20161107
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2850[20:44:13] <Iridos> just means you have to install the
version from backports, as intended in the bug
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2855[20:44:52] <st3fann> SamsaraSoup: Yes that is okay, thats the
default VNC port
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2857[20:45:22] <st3fann> SamsaraSoup: if you have the computer
you are trying to VNC behind a router, you will have to forward
ports accordingly, and use that same 5900 port to connect to the VNC
server
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2858[20:45:49] <Iridos> st3fann, the IP actually changes,
it's not just the port being added
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2859[20:46:33] <st3fann> Iridos: ah just read the last sentence
there, I realize that
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2860[20:46:44] <st3fann> SamsaraSoup: what happens if you type
0.0.0.0 as the IP?
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2861[20:47:11] <SamsaraSoup> Iridos, st3fann sorry guys ignore
the IP thing, I made a mistake.
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2862[20:47:16] <Iridos> wwhat client do you use and how can the
IP "change" there
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2872[20:54:13] <LiENUS> thanks missmbob and Iridos i misread that
comment and missed the -t jessie-backports
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3020[21:56:17] <greycat> dpkg, no, stretch freeze is
<reply>Stretch is frozen as of 2017-02-05; see
replaced-url
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3021[21:56:17] <dpkg> okay, greycat
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3027[21:57:22] <LordThumper> Hi, I am getting random freezes,
from past experience what could it be?
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3029[21:57:31] <LordThumper> This is debian stable
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3030[21:58:05] <greycat> Hardware failing, kernel bug, driver
bug.
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3033[21:58:28] <greycat> What does "uname -a" say?
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3034[21:58:34] <bub_> /var/log/ might be your friend
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3043[22:00:58] <LordThumper> I currently don't have access
to the machine
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3044[22:01:16] <LordThumper> This was a 2 day ago installation
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3045[22:01:21] <LordThumper> And I had 3 freezes
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3046[22:01:39] <LordThumper> I ran memtester for awhile (online)
scan, but got no errors
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3049[22:02:07] <greycat> Did it upgrade to a kernel from the
Debian mirrors during install, or did it remain on the kernel on the
CD/USBthing?
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3050[22:02:23] <LordThumper> Same kernel
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3051[22:02:28] <LordThumper> from a USB installation
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3052[22:02:34] <greycat> If it's the kernel from the
installer, which *exact* version of the installer is it?
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3053[22:02:46] <LordThumper> It was either 3.16.x or 3.19.x
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3055[22:02:52] <LordThumper> I'm not 100% sure
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3056[22:02:55] <LordThumper> AMD64
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3058[22:03:02] <greycat> The early jessie kernels had a USB bug
that caused many computers (including one of mine) to lock up.
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3059[22:03:14] <greycat> So you *REALLY* want to make sure you
get the latest jessie kernel.
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3060[22:03:22] <LordThumper> It was probably a new kernel
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3061[22:03:27] <greycat> Stop guessing.
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3062[22:03:27] <LordThumper> The installer was new
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3063[22:03:41] <LordThumper> I installed it user unetbootinst
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3065[22:03:55] <LordThumper> using unetbootin*
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3070[22:05:03] <SynrG> gain access to the system later and ask us
again then
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3075[22:06:06] <LordThumper> will do, thanks
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3084[22:11:23] <nz_> During the aptitude update, it is asking for
confirmation before updating the local certificate store.
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3085[22:11:38] <nz_> Shall I trust what has been provided ?
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3088[22:12:40] <nz_> i ended up removing 10 certs, and not adding
any.
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3090[22:13:18] <LordThumper> Quick (separate) question, I
installed memtest86 through apt-get, and it added memtest86 and
memtest86+ to bootloader screen. However neither is working (nothing
happens of awhile, then I'm returned to bootloader). Any
idease?
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3096[22:14:38] <fred1807> need the start torrent service to be
the very last one on systemd startup, because my wifi is slow to
connect. After.network is not enough. What else could I use?
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3100[22:15:35] <greycat> Well, ideally you would write a service
that probes for a working wifi connection, and have your torrent
service wait for that.
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3133[22:27:05] <teraflops> fred1807: did you try
network-online.target?
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3135[22:27:14] <fred1807> not yet
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3138[22:28:13] <fred1807> how does network-online.target works?
Test public internet connectivity?
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3139[22:28:21] <fnljk> hey.. Ive installed "debian
noroot" (deb8 not requiring "rooting" of the phone)
on a "sony xperia z1" phone. Any suggestions where I might
find info on particularly useful stuff for it? also, how I can find
out what current.. desktop (?) system (example lxde, gnome etc..) is
running..? Also, some things seems to require Xserver stuff... that
should be fine to install, or..any idea? sry if wr
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3140[22:28:24] <fnljk> ..wrong place to ask.. :s
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3142[22:28:48] <teraflops> fred1807: what do you using for
setting up the network there?
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3143[22:28:54] <teraflops> use*
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3147[22:30:22] <fred1807> This is a music server distro based on
Jessy. Not sure, guess wifi is wpa-suppliant
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3148[22:30:40] <fred1807> (not a full "Distro", only a
project)
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3150[22:31:15] <fnljk> and also eventually if anyone would know
if there are any common Deb tools (obtainable thru "apt-get
install .." that may enable control of the keyboard and/or
mouse from a remote box, and possibly also viewing the screen--or is
Vncserver the best and only good choice for that?
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3153[22:31:52] <teraflops> based on or real jessie?
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3154[22:32:06] <teraflops> fred1807:
replaced-url
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3158[22:33:12] <krysjonaz> Hey doods. I'm having a problem
with my Desktop Environment. Or any Desktop Environment. They all
seem to hang after I've entered my credentials to the log in
screen, and some don't even get to the log in screen - they
hand immediately after they're called. Uhh...
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3159[22:33:30] <mutante> krysjonaz: full disk?
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3161[22:33:38] <fnljk> teraflops: Not sure if that was for me or
not, but either way I'd wanna find out too... - how could one
tell if an apparent Debian system is actually "based on"
or "real" ( / pure?) Debian.. ?
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3162[22:34:07] <teraflops> fnljk: nope sorry it was for fred1807
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3163[22:34:14] <fnljk> k..
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3164[22:34:15] <menace> fnljk: content of /etc/apt/sources.list
and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
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3165[22:34:19] <teraflops> fnljk: no idea about your issue
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3167[22:34:36] <fnljk> menace: oh.. k, thanks!
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3168[22:34:45] <krysjonaz> mutante: No, there's still space
on each partition
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3169[22:35:27] <menace> fnljk: but if you installed stuff from
hand, there's no saying what is changed..
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3170[22:35:55] <mutante> krysjonaz: can you login without
graphical UI? on a text console. can you create new files there?
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3171[22:36:23] <krysjonaz> mutante: Yes, that's what
I'm logged into right now :D
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3172[22:36:33] <fnljk> oh Ive only used the "apt-get
install" feature so far. It seems to download it all frmo
official debian host, but apparently (i think..-) for
"armhf" architecture-version of it.. hmh
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3173[22:37:42] <mutante> krysjonaz: how about .. "tail -f
/var/log/syslog" in the text console while trying to login on
Desktop
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3174[22:37:52] <mutante> any errors popping up?
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3176[22:38:07] <krysjonaz> mutante: I tried removing/installing
the Desktop Environment, and then playing around with others
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3178[22:38:50] <mutante> krysjonaz: does the "playing"
part mean it can't be easily reverted to how it was before?
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3180[22:39:01] <krysjonaz> mutante: Do you mean I have to start
my DE on a separate terminal, and then do "tail -f ..." on
another one?
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3181[22:39:03] <mutante> did it work before?
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3182[22:39:31] <mutante> krysjonaz: yes, i mean, Ctrl+Alt+F1 or
so to go to a text console
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3183[22:39:47] <krysjonaz> mutante: Will do, one second
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3184[22:39:58] <mutante> login there and follow the logfile..
then switch back to Ctrl+Alt+F7 and login there .. kind of like that
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3202[22:47:53] <krysjonaz> mutante: It works now! I have no idea
what I did, but thanks for the help :D
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3203[22:48:33] <mutante> krysjonaz: hah:) well, nice!
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3208[22:49:21] <fred1807> I want to merge some dirs into a
/mountpoint, is overlayfs the way to go?
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3214[22:52:58] <krysjonaz> Does anyone have the link to keyboard
shortcuts on Debian? I know a few, but I want to rule the universe
with an iron fist
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3216[22:53:34] <bazhang> krysjonaz, certainly the debian wiki
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3218[22:54:02] <bazhang> krysjonaz, that would relate to the DE
as well
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3220[22:54:42] <greycat> There are so many different *layers*
where keys are bound. Which layers are you talking about?
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3227[22:55:50] <jubalh> hi
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3229[22:55:58] <jubalh> i am looking for the tararchive that
debootstrat gets
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3231[22:56:09] <jubalh> i suppose it has to be somewhere here?
replaced-url
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3236[22:57:42] <fnljk> is there a reverse-ssh kinda program..? It
seems I can use ssh-client on my "armhf" (cellphone
architecture..) Debian, but for unknown reason am unable to connect
to the openssh-server I installed on it.. (no iptable rule
blocking.. I dunno what it could be)..
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3239[22:58:08] <krysjonaz> greycat: The one with a blank terminal
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3243[22:58:46] <greycat> Um... what? You mean the Linux text
console? Or do you mean Ctrl-Alt-F* to get to one?
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3244[22:59:16] <krysjonaz> greycat: Linux text console, I think
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3245[22:59:21] <greycat> Or are you talking about editing
keybindings within bash?
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3248[23:00:06] <greycat> If you're actually talking about
linux magic-sysrq things, I don't know those.
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3249[23:00:22] <krysjonaz> greycat: I don't want to edit
any. I want to know them :)
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3250[23:01:04] <greycat> ...
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3251[23:01:23] <greycat> It's like an English speaker trying
to talk to a Hindu speaker.
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3252[23:01:34] <greycat> Hindi? Sorry if I misspelled.
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3257[23:02:02] <greycat> Can you give an *example* of one of
these keybindings that you are talking about, and what it does?
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3259[23:02:20] <krysjonaz> greycat: I don't think it's
that bad! Uhh...I'm just not sure how to phrase the question
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3260[23:02:35] <greycat> "When I press ___ it does ____ how
I learn more!!"
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3261[23:02:35] <krysjonaz> greycat: C^c ends the current job
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3262[23:02:49] <greycat> Ugh. That's... not a great example.
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3263[23:02:58] <greycat> Ctrl-c is defined in the terminal driver
level.
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3265[23:03:20] <greycat> This is much lower level than bash, but
only operates within terminals that are in specific modes.
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3267[23:03:33] <krysjonaz> greycat: O
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3269[23:03:54] <greycat> If you want to know more about
terminal-driver stuff, read "man stty" and
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3276[23:05:15] <krysjonaz> greycat: Thanks ^_^
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3287[23:07:43] <fnljk> is it generally a bad idea to install
things like.. "apt install libusb* usbprog* libpcap*"
without manually going thru and doing something like "apt show
<unknownPkgName>" on each of the unknown ones when it
ends up with a massive list of "will install:.."? I guess
much of it may be useful/good to have anyway.. lol, I prolly
over-install stuff at times,but sometime to somehow end broken
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3295[23:09:55] <fnljk> (the times I end up with
troubled/error-loaded issues, I think it might have been due to me
being a newb; installing as such and overlooking possibly obvious
errorneous things,like installing 64bit stuff for a 32bit box,or
such.. heh)
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3301[23:12:05] <fnljk> btw if any of u have a smartphone to play
with and havent rooted it or installed similar already,id suggest
check out "debian noroot" from Google Play appstore.. free
and very simply,like a normal app it appears.. and doesn't
require root or anything special on the device either,seems to run
fine..and afaik gets packages frmo the official Debian repository..
.]
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3302[23:12:10] <fnljk> o, link btw.. ->
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3327[23:25:20] <Zewwy> Whats the diff between Apache and Tomcat?
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3329[23:26:11] <Zewwy> Apache Tomcat is used to deploy your Java
Servlets and JSPs. So in your Java project you can build your WAR
(short for Web ARchive) file, and just drop it in the deploy
directory in Tomcat. So basically Apache is an HTTP Server, serving
HTTP. Tomcat is a Servlet and JSP Server serving Java technologies
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3330[23:26:16] <Zewwy> nm haha
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