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• 37[00:16:04] <Coronaemoon> how do i copy paste from Task Manager?
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• 48[00:21:17] <Randolf> What's the best place to get x11spice for Debian? I'm running Xfce and would like to use spice to access it remotely. Thanks.
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• 57[00:29:43] <Coronaemoon> how do i copy paste from Task Manager? xfce
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• 59[00:30:36] <incal> karlpinc: the exact command is: $ convert -composite bg.png fg.png -gravity center out.png ; the first (and only) error message is "convert-im6.q16: no images defined `comp.png' @ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/3258."
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• 96[00:49:13] <incal> but my question is: how do I downgrade ghostscript, since that is the solution proposed on the web how to get convert to work :)
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• 98[00:50:38] <incal> $ aptitude versions # only shows one version, the one with the problem I take it, so where do I get others? do I get it from the project's page or can I bring it in from another release of Debian, if so, care to share the repos? I'm on Buster
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• 113[00:56:03] <karlpinc> incal: You don't downgrade ghostscript. Or at least not easily because apt does not support downgrading. You could uninstall ghostscript. Rebuild the ghostscript package from an older release. Install that. But I'd look for a better solution. Like maybe upgrading ghostscript. (Maybe there's something newer in backports?)
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• 115[00:56:10] <karlpinc> ,v ghostscript
• 116[00:56:11] <judd> Package: ghostscript on amd64 -- jessie: 9.06~dfsg-2+deb8u7; jessie-security: 9.26a~dfsg-0+deb8u6; stretch: 9.26a~dfsg-0+deb9u6; stretch-security: 9.26a~dfsg-0+deb9u6; buster: 9.27~dfsg-2+deb10u3; buster-security: 9.27~dfsg-2+deb10u3; bullseye: 9.50~dfsg-5; sid: 9.50~dfsg-5; experimental: 9.51~~rc3~dfsg-1
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• 120[00:57:48] <karlpinc> Humm. The judd bot knows how to say if ghostscript is easily self-backported. But before you go down that road? How do you know that "downgrading ghostscript" is really going to solve the problem?
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• 123[00:59:19] <karlpinc> incal: And have you read the readme.debian?
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• 126[00:59:31] <incal> I don't know for sure but I googled and several people had the same problem, but by all means I can try upgrading to a later version, you do that with apt pinning?
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• 128[00:59:48] <karlpinc> incal: Care to point the channel to what you're looking at?
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• 132[01:00:05] <karlpinc> incal: You do it by self-backporting.
• 133[01:00:07] <karlpinc> ssb
• 134[01:00:09] <karlpinc> !ssb
• 135[01:00:09] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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• 137[01:00:40] <karlpinc> incal: But before doing that it's good to see what the pre-requsites are, or you can wind up self-backporting recursively.
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• 141[01:02:33] <karlpinc> incal: Check the debian wiki for how to query the judd bot about backporting. You should be able to trace the right query from there....
• 142[01:03:19] <karlpinc> incal: And did you check the bug tracking system?
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• 144[01:03:42] <karlpinc> incal: Maybe there's a work-around already reported.
• 145[01:04:03] <incal> can't you do it with apt pinning, seems much easier to just say this pack should be retrieved from this place instead of the default...
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• 147[01:04:12] <incal> replaced-url
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• 151[01:05:18] <karlpinc> !frankendebian
• 152[01:05:18] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall>
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• 154[01:05:54] <karlpinc> incal: So no. You can't install from different major release repos.
• 155[01:06:15] <karlpinc> !don't break debian
• 156[01:06:15] <dpkg> rumour has it, dont break debian is replaced-url
• 157[01:06:53] <th_> welp i totally borked Nautilus.. each time i open a file in nautilus it opens a new nautilus
• 158[01:07:10] <th_> i need original output of: xdg-settings get default-url-scheme-handler file
• 159[01:07:14] <th_> cause i think that might be what broke it
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• 167[01:11:13] <incal> what about uninstalling the repo release of ghostscript, get the latest version from their home page or git page and compile manually?
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• 169[01:12:12] <karlpinc> ,checkbackports ghostscript
• 170[01:12:46] <karlpinc> judd
• 171[01:13:09] <karlpinc> Humm. I'm pretty sure that's it.
• 172[01:13:26] <incal> judd?
• 173[01:13:54] <karlpinc> incal: Sure. You can compile manually. See the "don't break debian" page for how. But it is usually easier (and safer) to self-backport and have an installed package.
• 174[01:14:27] <karlpinc> judd is the bot that's supposed to know stuff like what else must be backported before you can backport ghostscript.
• 175[01:14:40] <karlpinc> But it does not seem to be awake....
• 176[01:15:05] <karlpinc> ,checkbackport ghostscript
• 177[01:15:21] <judd> Backporting package ghostscript in sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libfreetype-dev, libjbig2dec0-dev (>= 0.16+20190905-2~).
• 178[01:15:43] <karlpinc> ,checkbackport libfreetype-dev
• 179[01:15:45] <judd> Backporting package libfreetype-dev in sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12).
• 180[01:15:57] <JackFrost> That's in -backports
• 181[01:16:06] <karlpinc> ,checkbackport debhelper-compat
• 182[01:16:07] <judd> No package named 'debhelper-compat' was found in sid/amd64.
• 183[01:16:17] <JackFrost> ,v debhelper
• 184[01:16:18] <judd> Package: debhelper on amd64 -- jessie: 9.20150101+deb8u2; jessie-security: 9.20150101+deb8u2; stretch: 10.2.5; stretch-backports: 12.1.1~bpo9+1; buster: 12.1.1; buster-backports: 12.9~bpo10+1; bullseye: 12.9; sid: 12.9
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• 186[01:17:47] <incal> is there a backport for ghostscript?
• 187[01:19:09] <karlpinc> incal: I suggest you help the channel find out what the real problem is, instead of trying to follow instructions suggested by random people on the interernet who's writing you've not let us see. And also, again, have you checked the bug tracking system, have you read the readme.debian?
• 188[01:20:38] <karlpinc> Someone might also have another command that does what your convert command does, so you might look for that.
• 189[01:20:46] <incal> you mean /usr/share/doc/ghostscript/README.Debian ?
• 190[01:21:33] <karlpinc> incal: I'm thinking your problem is with convert, so the imagemagik README.Debian. But maybe the ghostscript one.
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• 192[01:21:58] <incal> aha, OK, 1s
• 193[01:22:21] <karlpinc> Not really likely to solve the problem, but always one of the first places to look.
• 194[01:22:39] <karlpinc> Maybe there's a way to invoke gs directly and do what you want....
• 195[01:22:58] <incal> no README but NEWS, changelog and copyright
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• 204[01:27:54] <incal> here: replaced-url
• 205[01:28:03] <incal> "Have you tried downgrading from GS" ...
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• 214[01:31:22] <karlpinc> incal: So have you looked for a bug in the debian bug tracking system?
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• 217[01:32:33] <karlpinc> incal: So, what you're really trying to do is convert from pdf to png?
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• 221[01:34:14] <incal> no put on img on top of another
• 222[01:34:15] <karlpinc> incal: Guess not. What does -composite do?
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• 224[01:34:24] <karlpinc> ah.
• 225[01:34:50] <incal> I found this, is it what you talk about? gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general - there are 1666788 posts, kinda hard to digest :(
• 226[01:35:37] <karlpinc> !bts
• 227[01:35:37] <dpkg> Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, replaced-url
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• 247[01:53:52] <karlpinc> incal: I'm thinking I'd punt. Use debootstrap to install stretch in a chroot and use that.
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• 306[02:32:55] <incal> OK, thanks man
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• 396[04:09:58] <nurupo> i915 still freezes every so many minutes on 5.4.19 kernel, 5.5 can't come to sid soon enough
• 397[04:11:09] <nurupo> have to resort to using 5.2 kernel for now, it has no issues
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• 406[04:21:24] <Gtzen> here, i appreciate full debian repo (iso) and cast updates decompress file format (respectiv changelog)
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• 409[04:23:52] <Gtzen> more base_list statistic linux-image & headers too, would be great
• 410[04:24:18] <Gtzen> fwts essential
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• 439[05:03:51] <bray90820> So I am trying to boot Raspbian on my PI4 i get to wher it says starting Plymouth boot then goes to a black screen
• 440[05:06:29] <bray90820> Ok it took forever and 3 reboot but it booted
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• 450[05:14:53] <somiaj> !raspbian
• 451[05:14:53] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian (or #raspberrypi) on irc.freenode.net for support. replaced-url
• 452[05:15:00] <gry> Installed cgit. Says no repositories found. Changed scan-path in /etc/cgitrc to '/home/gry/repo' or '/var/git'. Same issue. ZERO documentation on the default value (its man page says the default value is none). What may I do from there?
• 453[05:15:33] <somiaj> bray90820: ^^ for future knowledge, we don't support based on debian here.
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• 455[05:15:43] <gry> Alternatively. How do I use git daemon to provide others read only access to my repository. If this is easier to set up, that'd be great.
• 456[05:15:59] <bray90820> Ok
• 457[05:16:27] <somiaj> gry: Did you see if there was any useful docs in /usr/share/doc/cgit
• 458[05:16:33] <gry> Nothing.
• 459[05:16:44] <gry> Hi somiaj.
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• 461[05:17:11] <somiaj> I haven't used either. The only thing I've used is a java app that gives a git server with a web front end.
• 462[05:17:44] <gry> Is that packaged?
• 463[05:18:03] <somiaj> Nope, but you can just download the .jar and run it with java
• 464[05:18:38] <somiaj> I went with it at the time as I found it simple compared to the various options I was looking at (like gitlab)
• 465[05:18:40] <gry> I see. I am trying to improve the cgit situation in debian. It seems to be ignoring its own /etc/cgitrc.
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• 467[05:19:09] <somiaj> Am not able to help much with that.
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• 474[05:30:36] <Gtzen> we should implement homeland sandbox apps for apple
• 475[05:30:42] <Gtzen> xquartz
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• 480[05:32:04] <Gtzen> mainly network (naas) apps
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• 482[05:32:57] <Gtzen> maybe a runnable docker || vagrant for xqartz viewing
• 483[05:33:14] <Gtzen> bootstrap init
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• 485[05:33:39] <Gtzen> steam should think about it
• 486[05:33:59] <somiaj> This is a debian support channel, and I don't see what this has to with debian.
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• 488[05:35:33] <Gtzen> somiaj linux ports to apple come from any distro
• 489[05:35:54] <Gtzen> somiaj including "universal" distro
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• 552[06:50:36] <Gtzen> here
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• 556[06:51:30] <Gtzen> bloq rwx other(s) non-authenticated live session
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• 561[06:52:55] <Gtzen> null rwx group permission
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• 563[06:53:39] <Gtzen> permissiv live sesson
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• 566[06:55:48] <Gtzen> only root owner and sudo (ty console terminal suid gid)
• 567[06:56:50] <Gtzen> sudo command
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• 575[07:09:29] <themill> Gtzen: do you have a Debian user support question we can help you with?
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• 577[07:10:33] <Gtzen> all better safe support
• 578[07:10:57] <Gtzen> from rc
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• 592[07:32:43] <OS-70878> /msg NickServ REGISTER ikwoonineenhuis kelvin@cyberseals.nl
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• 598[07:48:11] <well_laid_lawn> is it beer o'clock in the netherlands ? ;)
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• 600[07:55:03] <DracoSentien> Debian is a non-profit organization does that mean it is a legal entity ?
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• 602[07:55:47] <DracoSentien> main reason I am asking is I am trying to figure out if Debian is subject to US encryption export laws
• 603[07:56:12] <DracoSentien> For instance, OpenBSD can ship with strong crypto because it is based in Canada
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• 609[07:58:25] <nkuttler> !non-us
• 610[07:58:25] <dpkg> Non-US is where we placed software previously unable to hosted within the USA. Changes in legislation mean that post-<Woody>, there is no non-US, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch, Lenny, Squeeze, Wheezy or later. Ask me about <crypto> and <crypto in main>. Old non-US packages (for slink, potato, woody) are at archive.debian.org. replaced-url
• 611[07:58:56] <nkuttler> !crypto in main
• 612[07:58:56] <dpkg> Legal advice received 31-Jul-2001 indicates that the new US export regulations on cryptographic software will allow Debian to distribute cryptographic software from the US, provided certain hoops are jumped through. replaced-url
• 613[07:59:14] <DracoSentien> nkuttler: thanks
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• 632[08:16:20] <usney> how do I list only packages I have installed that weren't the default installed apps from a fresh install?
• 633[08:18:47] <nkuttler> usney: i don't think that is tracked. best bet is probably starting with the install report.. if you still have that
• 634[08:19:20] <nkuttler> usney: or do you mean the base system by default? there really isn't a "default" install
• 635[08:19:31] <nkuttler> i mean.. there is.. but it's also changing over time
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• 639[08:21:40] <DracoSentien> nkuttler: yeah, I was just looking at the man page for apt and dpkg e.g. dpkg -i | grep < string> or apt list | grep <string> and there does not seem to be a way to do it
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• 662[08:39:22] <usney> I found a way after duckduckgoing nkuttler DracoSentien
• 663[08:39:46] <usney> You have to use a script luckily it isn't long so you can see if it is malicious or not,
• 664[08:40:05] <rana_ans> hi, can anybody help me with this? replaced-url
• 665[08:40:16] <DracoSentien> usney: what is the url to the script ?
• 666[08:40:24] <usney> are you using debian rana_ans ?
• 667[08:41:03] <usney> there is several scripts on this page. replaced-url
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• 669[08:41:30] <usney> I am using debian buster so I will probably use one that was made for that edition.
• 670[08:41:42] <DracoSentien> usney: no , it looks like he is using raspian or whateer
• 671[08:41:42] <usney> I mean debian bullseye
• 672[08:41:51] <rana_ans> @usney ye I think debian stretch
• 673[08:42:53] <DracoSentien> oops, I mean dpkg -l | grep [string] before not dpkg -i etc...
• 674[08:43:01] <DracoSentien> whatever does not matter now
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• 676[08:43:29] <DracoSentien> rana_ans: type "/exec -o uname -ra" in your irc client
• 677[08:43:38] <DracoSentien> should work
• 678[08:43:49] <DracoSentien> it works in my irc client anyway
• 679[08:43:54] <DracoSentien> Linux blackhole 4.19.0-8-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.98-1 (2020-01-26) x86_64 GNU/Linux
• 680[08:43:58] <DracoSentien> tada !
• 681[08:44:22] <rana_ans> I dont need help with irc, idk what that would do anyways
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• 684[08:44:41] <usney> rana_ans are you trying to install from source?
• 685[08:44:45] <DracoSentien> rana_ans: you are too stupid to be running debian go use ubuntu
• 686[08:44:57] <rana_ans> yes,
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• 688[08:45:26] <usney> you could try installing that package from python pip rana_ans
• 689[08:45:43] <rana_ans> DracoSentien: haha no man, the packages I need to use arent available for raspberrypi on ubuntu, only in debian stretch
• 690[08:46:15] <rana_ans> usney: could you tell me a command or something, Im still learning linux
• 691[08:46:31] <DracoSentien> rana_ans: debian is not for people 'learning linux' that is what ubuntu is for
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• 694[08:48:15] <rana_ans> DracoSentien: lemme tell you the whole story, I use ubuntu 18.04 on my pc but to implement the software/packages on my robot I need a raspberrypi or any SBC, but the packages that Imma run are available on linux 9 only
• 695[08:48:18] <DracoSentien> rana_ans: dude, I somehow doubt you are even running debian stretch
• 696[08:48:24] <DracoSentien> rana_ans: I am skeptical
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• 700[08:49:06] <rana_ans> DracoSentien: replaced-url
• 701[08:49:09] <usney> are you using python3 or python2? rana_ans
• 702[08:49:10] <DracoSentien> rana_ans: that is what the "/exec -o uname -ra" command is for
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• 704[08:49:23] <DracoSentien> rana_ans: to show us that you are running debian
• 705[08:49:47] <rana_ans> usney: python 2
• 706[08:49:57] <rana_ans> 2.7.13
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• 710[08:51:36] <DracoSentien> rana_ans: it says you are running raspbian which is based on debian stretch but it is not debian stretch proper . I think
• 711[08:51:49] <DracoSentien> rana_ans: raspbian is not debian and neither is ubunty
• 712[08:51:52] <DracoSentien> ubuntu rather
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• 717[08:53:37] <rana_ans> usney: is there any way this package could get installed?
• 718[08:54:10] <usney> rana_ans let me get the name of the package just a second
• 719[08:54:25] <rana_ans> ok
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• 722[08:55:39] <usney> pip search python-pycryptodome
• 723[08:55:48] <usney> what does that command show you? rana_ans
• 724[08:55:59] <usney> you may have to install pip first though
• 725[08:56:14] <rana_ans> sec
• 726[08:58:02] <rana_ans> usney: replaced-url
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• 729[09:02:03] <rana_ans> usney: Im following this site, if I ignore this packages and continue compiling would that be a problem? replaced-url
• 730[09:02:15] <rana_ans> the command is at 2.1.1
• 731[09:02:40] <rana_ans> continue building*
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• 737[09:10:46] <usney> what is a catkin workspace rana_ans ?
• 738[09:11:29] <rana_ans> umm its kinda folder where we can build and install packages
• 739[09:12:05] <rana_ans> source (src) folder is where we put packages and then run them
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• 742[09:12:57] <rana_ans> Idk the whole story behind it either, I just know how to link xml files and run python scripts or launch files
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• 746[09:16:21] <rana_ans> its hard using linux when you grew up using windows lol
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• 750[09:20:01] <rana_ans> usney: anything for me? :D
• 751[09:21:44] <swift110> hmm
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• 811[10:43:36] <nulld1g1t> hi chaps
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• 841[10:59:44] <u0_a198> Hello!when i install debian i told me bad sha256sum when it retrieved the libnl*?why?
• 842[11:00:36] <ratrace> could be a glitch. did you try again?
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• 844[11:01:14] <u0_a198> try again and again !nothing happened
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• 847[11:02:48] <u0_a198> the debian version is buster
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• 852[11:05:39] <u0_a198> someone known?
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• 910[12:05:50] <f8e3> if i create a file echo hi > file.txt on a debian ext4; is this file.txt sparse-file hosted?
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• 917[12:10:50] <f8e3> can the partition format ext4 be sparse on a regular installed deb10 (by default)?
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• 928[12:17:31] <ratrace> f8e3: you can create sparse files with truncate -s . I don't think you can do anything else, like mark the entire fs as consisting of sparse files
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• 939[12:26:22] <f8e3> ratrace check vbox has ext4, and can be compacted from the host: replaced-url
• 940[12:27:18] <ratrace> f8e3:
• 941[12:28:03] <ratrace> that's sparsing the file on the host side. the guest OS has no idea.
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• 944[12:28:32] <ratrace> you can also do that with qemu-img, specify the image size that grows dynamically.
• 945[12:29:39] <f8e3> ratrace aye thank you
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• 974[13:03:35] <Meerkat> I have my disks in RAID1 and I want to add a disk that the other drives will sync from. How can I do this?
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• 976[13:04:56] <dob1> heirloom-mailx was called just mailx in previous releases
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• 979[13:07:06] <ratrace> Meerkat: "sync from"? you mean once, just copy data from?
• 980[13:08:37] <Meerkat> yea, I guess that would work. It's my boot drive and it is the only one with the correct data to unlock my LVM and LUKS partitions.
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• 982[13:09:05] <Meerkat> if I re-add it to the array it would get overwritten by nothing, I'm afraid
• 983[13:09:47] <ratrace> that's why I am asking. you can't do that. use rsync.
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• 987[13:10:21] <ratrace> Meerkat: oh but wait... do you actually want to add an empty disk to a raid 1 mirror? so IT can be resilvered?
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• 991[13:14:02] <Meerkat> the only bootable disk was removed from the RAID before I realized it was the only bootable disk. The other disks now boot, but they don't have the proper data to unlock the LVM volume on my / partition. I'll try rsync.
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• 1012[13:28:23] <Meerkat> it won't mount "unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'."
• 1013[13:29:10] <Meerkat> Will creating a new raid array work?
• 1014[13:29:25] <Jemt> How can the apt-get install and configure packages that requires MySQL if I change the root password ?
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• 1016[13:30:43] <JPT> If you inspect the contents of /etc/mysql/debian.cnf, you'll see the credentials used for that purpose
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• 1018[13:31:15] <JPT> The mysql user "debian-sys-maint" is basically a second "root" user within mysql for that purpose.
• 1019[13:31:45] <JPT> It's also a really helpful thing to have in case you manage to forget the root password you set for mysql
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• 1021[13:32:31] <Jemt> Oh, but I have a collegue that insist the debian-sys-maint user is no longer added to the system. Perhaps he is wrong ?!
• 1022[13:32:52] <Jemt> *colleague
• 1023[13:33:15] <JPT> I'm not sure about that. My current experience comes from a bunch of systems that were upgraded over time. I would need to fire up a fresh debian 10 to find out.
• 1024[13:33:26] <Jemt> I'm currently on a Debian 10 installation, but it started as a Debian 7 installation way back. So it still has the debian-sys-maint user.
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• 1026[13:33:36] <Jemt> Heh, me too :)
• 1027[13:34:02] <JPT> If you have the capacities available, fire up a debian 10 vagrant box, install the current mysql/mariadb thing and see what it contains. :)
• 1028[13:34:31] <Jemt> I think I'll do that straight away.
• 1029[13:34:38] <JPT> Well, a maintenance script could probably kill mysqld and start it with --skip-grant-tables for maintenance purposes, too
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• 1034[13:36:22] <Jemt> Oh, that makes sense. But still, some scripts may not do that. I wonder why /etc/mysql/debian.cnf has a "Do not touch" warning. It should provide some sort of means to populate it with an alternative user then.
• 1035[13:36:40] <Jemt> Perhaps dpkg-reconfigure would do that
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• 1063[14:02:14] <tomnor> is there a way to avoid run-mailcap making temporary files
• 1064[14:02:35] <tomnor> for example $ see 'name with spaces.pdf'
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• 1067[14:02:57] <tomnor> can it be configured somehow
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• 1078[14:06:03] <velix> Does anyone know a Stretch-Backports repository with Apache2 2.4.41 ?
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• 1086[14:08:26] <gour> hello, recently i returned back to debian (sid) and after dl-ing few images (firmware, 10.3, testing) it looks that none of the images does contain 'rescue' option as it did in the past or do i miss something?
• 1087[14:08:41] <velix> Oh, replaced-url
• 1088[14:08:54] <tomnor> running $ see 'name with spaces.pdf', can I avoid temporary file?
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• 1095[14:13:23] <ratrace> !tell gour about debian-next
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• 1099[14:16:11] <gour> ratrace: i'm not looking explicitly image for 'next', but even regular images do not contain 'rescue' menu any longer?
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• 1106[14:20:40] <ratrace> gour: the idea of that factoid is to tell you that testing or sid are not supported here, and for best results, seek help on OFTC.
• 1107[14:21:01] <ratrace> or does your question apply to Debian Stable (buster) images?
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• 1116[14:25:36] <mspe> lol, he just told you :D
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• 1122[14:29:15] <brutser> hi, i am trying to get bluetooth to work on my lenovo t450s with debian 10, apt install bluetooth bluez blueman was my first attempt, but it probably needs some firmware installed to see the bluetooth?
• 1123[14:29:21] <ratrace> mspe: I don't know what "he" told me, but the buster installation ISO does contain the rescue mode in the initial menu.
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• 1127[14:30:52] <mspe> ratrace: even in the live images?
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• 1129[14:30:59] <brutser> firmware-iwlwifi i already installed
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• 1132[14:32:11] <ratrace> brutser: is there anything for dmesg | grep -i firmware ?
• 1133[14:32:19] <brutser> ratrace: moment
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• 1135[14:33:47] <ratrace> mspe: I don't know about live images.
• 1136[14:34:00] <brutser> ratrace: replaced-url
• 1137[14:34:35] <ratrace> brutser: it appears from that that the kernel is not seeking any additional, and missing, firmware.
• 1138[14:34:54] <brutser> ratrace: ok, how can i fix that?
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• 1140[14:35:19] <brutser> ratrace: replaced-url
• 1141[14:35:29] <brutser> it's supposed to work out of the box says in the link
• 1142[14:35:46] <ratrace> brutser: not sure what "that" is. can you pastebin dmesg | grep -i blue ?
• 1143[14:36:34] <brutser> ratrace: replaced-url
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• 1148[14:38:14] <ratrace> brutser: so what exactly is not working?
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• 1150[14:39:07] <brutser> ratrace: bluetooth manager was not working, but somehow now it is
• 1151[14:39:15] <brutser> the wonder of the expert talking did the trick again :)
• 1152[14:39:41] <brutser> ah no
• 1153[14:39:43] <brutser> i talked too soon
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• 1155[14:39:50] <brutser> it says: no adapter found
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• 1159[14:40:39] <ratrace> brutser: is there a physical button or a Fn key to enable/disable bluetooth?
• 1160[14:41:34] <brutser> yes but it seems not working, i need enable fn key for linux i think
• 1161[14:42:38] <ratrace> brutser: anything appearing in the kernel log (dmesg) when you operate the button?
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• 1176[14:48:13] <ratrace> brutser: any output for lsmod | grep -P "^bt"
• 1177[14:48:41] <brutser> no
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• 1179[14:50:24] <ratrace> guess it doesn't register the hardware. if you run bluetoothcl and then type show does it say "No default controller available"?
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• 1182[14:51:37] <brutser> moment
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• 1184[14:51:53] <brutser> yes exact
• 1185[14:51:57] <ratrace> brutser: also check with 'list' and 'devices' in the bluetoothctl prompt
• 1186[14:52:13] <brutser> devices show the same
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• 1192[14:53:16] <ratrace> brutser: I'm not sure what to do then.
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• 1229[15:16:09] <tomnor`> running $ see 'name with spaces.pdf', can I avoid temporary file?
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• 1238[15:20:51] <ratrace> gour: so those are "live" images? not netinst/cd/dvd iso images? is there an "Advanced options" menu?
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• 1251[15:27:14] <gour> ratrace: yes, live image with several grub-menu options - live image, debian installer, sppeach-assisted etc., but no 'advanced options' menu as i recall from the past
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• 1253[15:28:46] <gour> so, wonder from where to get iso image which includes 'rescue' option?
• 1254[15:28:49] <ratrace> gour: sorry I wouldn't know about live images. I thought you were talking about regular installation ISOs
• 1255[15:30:04] <gour> well, i never used live images and when dl-ing from regular place i always get image with 'rescue' option
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• 1258[15:31:25] <gour> e.g i dl-ed from here replaced-url
• 1259[15:31:28] <ratrace> gour: the "regular" netinst/cd/dvd images have it
• 1260[15:31:50] <gour> ...and the image is live one
• 1261[15:32:00] <ratrace> "live" images are these: replaced-url
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• 1263[15:32:15] <ratrace> gour: so which ISO exactly are you talking about?
• 1264[15:32:32] <gour> e.g. replaced-url
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• 1266[15:33:27] <ratrace> that's not a "live" image (that boots into a desktop env, like "ubuntu live" does)
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• 1281[15:45:50] <ratrace> gour: the netinst and debian-10.3.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso have the rescue mode under Advanced options. I don't have a DVD iso to check, but I see no reason why it wouldn't have it.
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• 1287[15:48:48] <gour> ratrace: thanks! it seems that the problem was with my stick not properly writing image to it. tried with another one and i get what i want/need - resuce option ;)
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• 1346[16:24:47] <Veerasamy> Hi, I was suggested to ask this issue here. I'm currently trying to build kodi but I'm facing the following error `E: Unable to find a source package for kodi` . So I'm thinking that I need to add a deb-src...line in the sources.list file but I do not know what line tho. Can anyone help me with that ?
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• 1350[16:27:25] <LtL> Veerasamy: deb-src replaced-url
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• 1352[16:27:58] <Veerasamy> Ltl: Thanks :)
• 1353[16:28:55] <LtL> Veerasamy: welcome
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• 1390[17:01:26] <Jemt> Hi. I'm following a guide (replaced-url
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• 1395[17:03:16] <ratrace> Jemt: Does the default pureftpd config reference those paths?
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• 1397[17:03:36] <ratrace> Jemt: btw... in 2020.... ftpd and ispconfig should not be used, and that's far from a "perfect server".
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• 1401[17:04:45] <Jemt> ratrace: This is an older server that is being upgraded :-) What do you recommend instead ?
• 1402[17:04:47] <ratrace> also, you might wish to use LetsEncrypt or some other free certificate authority, instead of running self-signed certs.
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• 1404[17:04:55] <Jemt> True
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• 1406[17:05:33] <ratrace> Jemt: use ssh/sftp for file uploads, preferably with keys instead of passwords. Make sure you chroot sftp access. As for which freeware "panel" to use, I have no recommendation, they're all equally bad.
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• 1410[17:07:34] <Jemt> Cool :-)
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• 1443[17:37:30] <NetTerminalGene> guys, i forgot. when installing debian, it asks where to install grub in the end. how can i know if it is sda or sdc?
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• 1445[17:39:23] <jelly> switch to console and verify?
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• 1448[17:39:49] <NetTerminalGene> i dunt't know how to do that
• 1449[17:39:54] <jelly> there ought to be a console on a different vt (Ctrl-Alt-F2 or F3)
• 1450[17:39:54] <joepublic> install to whichever is the drive you will boot from, is a perhaps unsatisfying, but ultimately correct answer.
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• 1454[17:40:20] <jelly> I mean, a console with a shell
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• 1460[17:43:21] <NetTerminalGene> i use gnome. should i installed xfce for more responsive experience?
• 1461[17:44:35] <sponix> NetTerminalGene: Yes, everyone should use xfce
• 1462[17:45:16] <joepublic> ^^^
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• 1465[17:46:01] <NetTerminalGene> sponix, joepublic do you use it?
• 1466[17:46:11] <joepublic> I use it.
• 1467[17:46:21] <NetTerminalGene> why?
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• 1469[17:47:06] <joepublic> for me it works without issue, has everything I need, has good accessibility (especially the alt+scroll wheel zoom), easy to change keyboard layout
• 1470[17:48:01] <sponix> NetTerminalGene: I am using XFCE right now -- Yes .. Because it is light, fast, and does what I need -- Giving my apps more resources, because it takes less from them
• 1471[17:48:33] <joepublic> I have 20 cores/40 threads and 64GB RAM on this workstation, Geforce 780ti, still use xfce for reasons stated above
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• 1473[17:49:25] <sponix> joepublic: Yeah -- I have 10 cores, 32GB Ram, and a GTX 960 -- using XFCE leaves more resources for my VMs, Video Editing, Torrenting, and whatever the hell else I'm doing -- Its legit :)
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• 1476[17:50:18] <sponix> I don't need fancy wobbling effects or whatever. Just launch my apps, let me switch between them, and stay outta my way
• 1477[17:50:20] <joepublic> Also, fwiw, I have tried gnome, plasma, lxde, lxqt, mate, cinnamon, and xfce just seems more intuitive to me for reasons I am not able to enumerate.
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• 1481[17:51:06] <joepublic> other people may fine other environments easier or more intuitive according to their experience and tastes.
• 1482[17:51:11] <joepublic> *find
• 1483[17:51:50] <ratrace> _real_ users don't need a DE. *runs*
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• 1485[17:53:54] <CrystalMath> ratrace: right on!
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• 1488[17:55:41] <joepublic> more of my machines have no DE than have one, I guess
• 1489[17:56:05] <joepublic> I have nice 8-port KVM but find that I just ssh
• 1490[17:57:26] <ratrace> I find i3-wm suits all my needs perfectly. So used to it, I can't imagine grabbing a rodent to one-finger my way around the ui
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• 1494[18:02:24] <NetTerminalGene> i have i5 7400 and 8GB of ram and using gnome
• 1495[18:02:48] <joepublic> do you like gnome? lots of people do, and use it
• 1496[18:02:59] <NetTerminalGene> ram is always sitting in %30
• 1497[18:03:23] <NetTerminalGene> it's fine but i obsessed if there is lag
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• 1499[18:04:13] <NetTerminalGene> text files open after 1 second
• 1500[18:04:24] <NetTerminalGene> pictures also
• 1501[18:04:39] <NetTerminalGene> so, it is annoying
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• 1503[18:04:54] <NetTerminalGene> i forgot if it was like that in xfce
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• 1505[18:05:38] <jelly> try it and see
• 1506[18:06:56] <NetTerminalGene> i am seeing pictures that scientists are using gnome ubuntu
• 1507[18:07:48] <NetTerminalGene> unity
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• 1509[18:08:51] <NetTerminalGene> netflix uses freebsd
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• 1531[18:29:27] <ratrace> NetTerminalGene: only for storage, the app servers are linux.
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• 1534[18:32:30] <sponix> ratrace: I'm sure the FreeBSD use is for ZFS mainly ;)
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• 1538[18:35:44] <ratrace> sponix: I don't think they use ZFS actually. Their primary use for FreeBSD is ability to heavily modify the kernel and enable very high throughput over https.
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• 1546[18:39:13] <brutser> after minimal install i do : apt install lightdm - this will install also xorg with many packages 362M in size total. now if i do minimal xorg install, basically apt install xserver-xorg-core, then it's about 120M less - the openbox seems to run fine on top of this, the problem I am having with this decision, why debian decides to install all those
• 1547[18:39:14] <brutser> packages and is there a chance i do end up missing some when installing only core and some basics xinit, fonts etc.
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• 1549[18:41:48] <hugo_> Hi all. I am looking for the way to calculate the last monday of a specified date. I found this function --> "date -dlast-monday +%Y%m%d" but i would like to specify a date. Could you help me to find the best way to do this please ?
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• 1551[18:42:11] <karlpinc> brutser: There are "recommends" that are pulled in when you install lightdm or other things that might not be pulled in on a minimal X install. That's my guess.
• 1552[18:42:37] <karlpinc> hugo_: Add --date= ?
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• 1554[18:43:22] <karlpinc> brutser: But it is really just a guess.
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• 1557[18:44:46] <brutser> karlpinc: yes it was my guess also - it is also my guess that the more packages i install, the more likely there is any with a vulnerability in it, so for this system i like to minimize the number of packages needed to function
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• 1560[18:45:06] <brutser> but maybe that is way too much over thinking ^
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• 1562[18:46:39] <hugo_> karlpinc, i cant find the syntax. ---> date +%Y%m%d -d "last-monday" --date=20200308 does not work :/
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• 1568[18:49:34] <abrotman> date --date=20200308 -d 'last monday' '+%Y%m%d'
• 1569[18:49:40] <abrotman> hugo_: is that what you want?
• 1570[18:49:56] <jelly> aren't -d and --date the same thing?
• 1571[18:50:22] <abrotman> yes .. apparently
• 1572[18:50:36] <abrotman> but I think the bigger issue is not being quoting the format string
• 1573[18:51:22] <jelly> neither %% or + need be quoted in a unix shell
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• 1575[18:53:07] <hugo_> abrotman, great thanks Abrotman ! :)))
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• 1577[18:53:48] <abrotman> then no idea why it wasn't working
• 1578[18:55:00] <abrotman> good luck!
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• 1582[18:58:06] <hugo_> abrotman, sorry it does not work. example : date --date=20200927 -d 'last monday' '+%Y%m%d' . The command output is 20200302. It shoud be 20200921 !
• 1583[18:58:16] <hugo_> abrotman, any idea ?
• 1584[18:59:18] <abrotman> hugo_: see what jelly was saying .. you can't use --date and -d
• 1585[18:59:26] <abrotman> well, they're the same
• 1586[18:59:29] <jelly> hugo_: and for 2020-09-28, should it still be 2020-09-21?
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• 1591[19:00:56] <d0m1> Hello
• 1592[19:01:06] <d0m1> I'm looking for a solution since years
• 1593[19:01:11] <d0m1> on file copy speed
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• 1595[19:01:19] <d0m1> FRom a EXT4 SSD
• 1596[19:01:28] <d0m1> To a NTFS external drive on USB3
• 1597[19:01:38] <d0m1> I start with 80Mb/s
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• 1599[19:01:52] <d0m1> then it goes down to 70... 60... 50....30....0...
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• 1601[19:02:08] <d0m1> copying like 500gigs will take 6, 7 hours
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• 1603[19:02:41] <d0m1> and expecially renders and other artworks that takes a lot of space ( so no internet) will take very long
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• 1605[19:02:45] <sponix> d0m1: you look familiar... I highly recommend you format that external to ext4 and give it another shot :)
• 1606[19:03:06] <d0m1> no, other people need it on their windows machines., that's the thing
• 1607[19:03:12] <d0m1> please let others respond,
• 1608[19:03:23] <d0m1> indeed we talked about this i'm giving it a try here
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• 1610[19:04:26] <abrotman> also, less enter key ...
• 1611[19:04:35] <jelly> dob1: try one of the commercial ntfs drivers for linux.
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• 1614[19:05:12] <jelly> d0m1: which debian release are you using?
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• 1616[19:05:40] <d0m1> LinuxMint but let's say it'ms the same, on Mate
• 1617[19:05:42] <jelly> d0m1: try one of the commercial ntfs drivers for linux
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• 1619[19:05:57] <d0m1> Jelly : Oh there is such a thing?
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• 1621[19:05:59] <jelly> d0m1: is it really the same? Which kernel is there?
• 1622[19:06:01] <d0m1> Interesting!
• 1623[19:06:10] <jelly> there are at least two IIRC
• 1624[19:06:16] <d0m1> good question let me check
• 1625[19:06:23] <hugo_> abrotman, sorry i did not understand. What is your idea to find the last monday to a specified date is futur ?
• 1626[19:07:08] <jelly> d0m1: replaced-url
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• 1632[19:10:01] <d0m1> I've spent a while looking for a solution like this
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• 1634[19:10:05] <d0m1> never found that site
• 1635[19:10:15] <d0m1> Jelly, you make me happy
• 1636[19:10:40] <jelly> d0m1: replaced-url
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• 1639[19:11:35] <d0m1> heh reminds me that time Ubuntu forced their new Nvidia "free" driver that kind of got my resolution stuck in a single 1366x768 inhsztead of 2x 190x1200
• 1640[19:11:47] <d0m1> i'm trying this thanjks
• 1641[19:12:47] <sponix> d0m1: if you haven't already done so - installing the ntfs-3g package is worth a shot
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• 1643[19:13:35] <sponix> d0m1: but from what I just read.. On an external used between Linux and Windows - for best performance, you could be trying exFAT - It has no journaling making it lighter, but in the event of a power loss it could cause issues :P
• 1644[19:13:39] <jelly> sponix: that's the only rw capable free driver for linux so I assumed that's what they started with
• 1645[19:13:47] <jelly> and were complaining about
• 1646[19:14:12] <sponix> jelly: good point
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• 1648[19:14:33] <d0m1> I'm pretty certain NTFS-3G is already included in Mint 19, Sponix, also I will NOT reinstall / downgrade to Win10
• 1649[19:14:42] <d0m1> If again we use Linux it's by choiuce
• 1650[19:15:07] <jelly> d0m1: volunteers in here help Debian users by choice as well.
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• 1652[19:15:20] <sponix> d0m1: exFAT is compatible with both Linux and Windows. It is basically a slight upgrade to Fat32
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• 1654[19:15:44] <jelly> d0m1: feel free to ask in here again if you can reproduce the issue on actual Debian
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• 1656[19:16:36] <jelly> sponix: is exfat supported in buster?
• 1657[19:16:56] <jelly> ,v exfat-fuse
• 1658[19:16:57] <judd> Package: exfat-fuse on amd64 -- jessie: 1.1.0-2+deb8u1; stretch: 1.2.5-2; bullseye: 1.3.0-1; buster: 1.3.0-1; sid: 1.3.0-1
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• 1662[19:18:11] <jelly> ,f mkfs.exfat
• 1663[19:18:23] <jelly> ,file sbin/mkfs.exfat
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• 1665[19:18:28] <judd> Search for sbin/mkfs.exfat in buster/amd64: exfat-utils: sbin/mkfs.exfat
• 1666[19:18:36] <jelly> I guess that's a "yes"
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• 1668[19:21:05] <d0m1> Jelly : Just installed their NTFS-3G driver
• 1669[19:21:12] <d0m1> remounted everything
• 1670[19:21:45] <d0m1> and well now it started with 12 houres remaining, 10 5 2 45 minutes remaining
• 1671[19:22:02] <d0m1> just like with Windows and now the speed is inded increadsing
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• 1673[19:22:14] <d0m1> holy shit it's woinderful, thanks
• 1674[19:22:29] <d0m1> sorry i cannot type anymore i need some rest
• 1675[19:22:32] <sponix> jelly: I also came across a very odd suggestion -- using UDF as rw (yes the CD/DVD format) with a partition can be used between Linux, Windows, and Mac
• 1676[19:22:48] <sponix> d0m1: Nice, glad to hear you found a good solution. Take care
• 1677[19:23:22] <d0m1> CD/DVD is goodsolid backyuups
• 1678[19:23:28] <d0m1> oh god.
• 1679[19:23:31] <sponix> jelly: I didn't know the Tuxera went free... It was commercial and fairly expensive at one point :P
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• 1682[19:23:42] <jelly> d0m1: ntfs-3g is exactly the same thing that comes with the distro
• 1683[19:23:44] <d0m1> CD/DVDs are good for backups that are supposed to last
• 1684[19:24:12] <d0m1> well weird , i just installed it a sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
• 1685[19:24:22] <d0m1> and it is like it was not installed by default
• 1686[19:24:23] <jelly> sponix: fuse-based ntfs-3g was always their code and always free
• 1687[19:24:51] <jelly> d0m1: huh, that's weird
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• 1689[19:25:16] <sponix> jelly: the *cough* Arch wiki portion I was reading prior said it needed to be installed also -- That is why I recommended it earlier :)
• 1690[19:25:40] <sponix> It said it only used ntfs-3g by default after you install its specific package
• 1691[19:25:51] <sponix> I have NO Idea WTF it uses otherwise :P
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• 1693[19:26:06] <d0m1> yeah at this point I odn't know either
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• 1695[19:26:11] <jelly> me neither
• 1696[19:26:32] <sponix> d0m1: anyway, its working better -- so you are free to get some rest
• 1697[19:26:34] <d0m1> but I recall having that thing being slow even when I started using Linux, by then i just dealt with it
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• 1699[19:27:07] <d0m1> yeah but now at least you wioll recommend users to do that manp, reinstall the NTFS-3g driver
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• 1704[19:29:14] <sponix> jelly: he was bitter from prior. Because after explaining that most of his work was done with Windows FS, and the majority of his other work rigs being Windows -- I hinted that maybe that it was the best tool for the Job for him to be running Windows also :)
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• 1708[19:32:35] <sponix> jelly: maybe ntfs-3g got bumped out of the default install do to the licensing not being exactly GPL or something ?
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• 1710[19:33:14] <sponix> Oh wait.. He was actually on Mint/Ubuntu, and they don't care about that stuff -- hmm.. No idea
• 1711[19:33:20] <jelly> ,i ntfs-3g
• 1712[19:33:21] <judd> Package ntfs-3g (otherosfs, optional) in buster/amd64: read/write NTFS driver for FUSE. Version: 1:2017.3.23AR.3-3; Size: 397.5k; Installed: 1479k; Homepage: replaced-url
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• 1714[19:33:42] <jelly> that's free software, just not there by default
• 1715[19:34:01] <sponix> odd
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• 1717[19:34:58] <sponix> base of Debian is super tiny for a reason though... Damn near everything (even sudo) is "optional" ;)
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• 1720[19:35:48] <sponix> for me that is a double edged sword. I love how tiny, light, fast it is out of the box. But hate having to add things I normally feel are "basic" because I've gotten use to heavier distros like Ubuntu base
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• 1796[20:22:15] <ectospasm> I'm trying to block one internal subnet (iot) from another on my network. Here is my relevant firewalld and ip configuration for my Debian (buster) router running firewalld 0.8.1-1~bpo10+1: replaced-url
• 1797[20:23:12] <f8e3> if forgot the name of the tool: it could build a deb package so i could apt install it. it was in regards to first 'package' the vim git repository after checking out instead of using their install scripts.
• 1798[20:23:44] <ectospasm> If I set the target of zone iot to "DROP", nothing on the iot zone can ping the outside world. If I set it to "default", it can ping the outside world but can also ping my home zone (behind 10.20.30.0/24). What am I doing wrong to block access from 172.16.87.0/24 to 10.20.30.0/24.
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• 1880[21:19:23] <brutser> hi guys! when i try connect my bluetooth speaker, i get Connection Failed: blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Input/output error. What can be causing this? do i need to install some other package?
• 1881[21:19:31] <brutser> I installed blueman and pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
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• 1898[21:31:25] <McMurdo> howdy, I just tried to run: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and the system told me, "The following packages have been kept back: linux-headers-amd64 linux-image-amd64" is this important for security? if so, how do I fix it?
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• 1903[21:32:25] <brutser> hi guys! when i try connect my bluetooth speaker, i get Connection Failed: blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Input/output error. What can be causing this? do i need to install some other package?
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• 1906[21:33:24] <dvs> McMurdo, linux-image-amd64 is a virtual package. That can be removed for an upgrade
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• 1909[21:35:11] <McMurdo> does the same go for linux-headers-amd64?
• 1910[21:35:40] <dvs> McMurdo, is this for am upgrade to a major version of Debian? (e.g. stretch to buster)
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• 1913[21:36:14] <McMurdo> I've already got Buster. But I also play around with virtualbox sometimes, I'm guessing that's where the virtual image came from.
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• 1918[21:37:08] <dvs> McMurdo, if it's for the same version of Debian then I'd use apt-get dist-upgrade instead because apt-get upgrade won't add or remove packages.
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• 1922[21:39:23] <McMurdo> Ok, so when I got to update my system once per month, you'd recommend this as what I run: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
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• 1924[21:39:50] <dvs> McMurdo, yes
• 1925[21:40:08] <dvs> McMurdo, apt-get update alone won't get all the packages
• 1926[21:40:20] <McMurdo> ok thanks. Just ran it now, and no complaints. What are "headers" anyway?
• 1927[21:40:47] <dvs> McMurdo, header are used to compile programs that use kernel features
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• 1929[21:41:11] <dvs> McMurdo, now reinstall the linux-image-amd64 package if you removed it.
• 1930[21:41:36] <McMurdo> how will I know if that process removed it?
• 1931[21:42:15] <dvs> McMurdo, dpkg -l linux-image-amd64 and look at the first two letters on that line.
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• 1933[21:42:26] <brutser> i am running debian 10 in kvm, qemu-guest-agent and spice-vdagent are installed, but i cannot get my side mouse buttons to work (i use that as BACK history when browsing)
• 1934[21:42:30] <brutser> how to fix that?
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• 1939[21:43:15] <McMurdo> dvs, ii linux-image-amd64
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• 1941[21:43:39] <dvs> McMurdo, so it's still installed
• 1942[21:44:47] <McMurdo> so is it safe to assume that file is what my virtualbox whonix software runs?
• 1943[21:45:23] <dvs> McMurdo, it is a virtual package that will always install the latest version of the kernel.
• 1944[21:46:16] <McMurdo> dvs, Sorry if this is too basic, (but I love digging deeper), what is a "virtual" package?
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• 1947[21:46:46] <dvs> McMurdo, a package that doesn't have programs itself but depends on other packages.
• 1948[21:47:07] <McMurdo> dvs, what are such packages good for?
• 1949[21:47:37] <dvs> McMurdo, in this case, keeping other packages at the latest version.
• 1950[21:48:02] <dob1> I am not able to make nc listen on a port, I am using nc -lv host port
• 1951[21:48:13] <dob1> but it gives me listening on [any] someotherport
• 1952[21:48:26] <McMurdo> dvs, oh, so it's job it keep the kernal up to date?!
• 1953[21:48:38] <dvs> McMurdo, in this case, yes
• 1954[21:48:57] <ws2k3> i configured an openvpnclient on my machine. on all the macs here it works just fine. but when i connect with debian. i get the following error. Sun Mar 8 16:50:46 2020 /sbin/ip addr add dev tun0 172.15.145.232/24 broadcast 172.15.145.255
• 1955[21:48:57] <ws2k3> Error: Invalid prefix for given prefix length.
• 1956[21:49:05] <ws2k3> what could this be?
• 1957[21:49:12] <McMurdo> dvs, then why would someone ever run apt-get upgrade, when they could run apt-get dist-upgrade instead?
• 1958[21:49:50] <dvs> McMurdo, if they want to really be careful to not install or remove packages.
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• 1960[21:50:32] <McMurdo> dvs, if you're not installing packages, then what are you doing when you run: apt-get upgrade?
• 1961[21:50:53] <dvs> McMurdo, upgrading packages that are already installed.
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• 1968[21:56:48] <McMurdo> dvs, alright, thanks so much!
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• 1974[21:58:30] <McMurdo> dvs, one more question, what's the advantage/disadvantage of "apt full-upgrade" instead of "apt-get update && apt-get dist-uprade"?
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• 1978[22:01:07] <dvs> McMurdo, There's no difference. People tend to use apt now
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• 1981[22:02:13] <dvs> McMurdo, well, apt and apt-get resolve conflict differently (not sure of the exact differences). apt tends to do a better job.
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• 1983[22:03:02] <bibble> Are you able to create an ext4 partition, flag as boot type, then mount and copy live debian iso to it and boot from it ?
• 1984[22:04:42] <McMurdo> Interesting. and "apt full-upgrade" takes care of everything? (it doesn't need a "apt-get update" infront?)
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• 1987[22:06:51] <dvs> McMurdo, nope, apt full-upgrade does it all
• 1988[22:07:34] <McMurdo> dvs, thanks again!
• 1989[22:07:39] <dvs> no problem
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• 1997[22:14:00] <bibble> Ok, can't copy live distro iso to a mounted partition unless edit bootloader etc.
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• 2001[22:15:10] <Ede|Popede> bibble, i did it on the other pc some time ago. just because. had an empty partition, so why not.
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• 2003[22:15:45] <Ede|Popede> didn't mark it as bootable even, booted the live stick and added an entry to grub
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• 2038[22:41:18] <ectospasm> I figured out my problem! I had to add a direct rule to the "raw" table, to the "PREROUTING" chain. That successfully blocks traffic from my iot zone to my home zone.
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• 2072[23:01:25] <annadane> what package do i need to install for more kde widgets like Show Desktop?
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• 2074[23:04:20] <Ede|Popede> Show Desktop is a widget? sounds like a keyboard shortcut to a wm functionality.
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• 2078[23:06:31] <annadane> yeah
• 2079[23:06:39] <annadane> but actually now i don't really want it so whatever
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• 2084[23:11:27] <Ede|Popede> independent of the key i've seen that xfce's panel has a button for it which seems to be its own plugin. together with some others -> apt-cache search xfce.*plugin.*
• 2085[23:11:30] <f8e3> how to 'install' a ready binary into the right folder giving the right permissions right away, there was a command i forgot (not cp)
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• 2089[23:14:08] <Ede|Popede> hm, doesn't seem to work for kde. annadane, if you find out which packages your widgets come from (i got the names of the executables from htop) with `dpkg -S $filename` then you may see a pattern in the package names
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• 2114[23:30:26] <LtL> annadane: you may find this interesting, replaced-url
• 2115[23:31:02] <joepublic> or maybe some other kde desktop, sure
• 2116[23:31:06] <annadane> yeah that's probably it
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• 2140[23:55:23] * annadane idly wonders whether you can still use the kde plasma in stable to communicate with newer versions of plasma like with the kde connect stuff
• 2141[23:55:38] <annadane> i'm sure debian patches it to allow that
• 2142[23:56:06] <annadane> or not kde connect specifically but any of the interoperable features kde's known for
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