People who Joins , Parts or Quits a chatroom
this is #debian
an IRC -Channel at freenode
(freenode IRC service closed
2021-06-01)
0 [00:00:12] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1 [00:00:21] *** Joins: lel (l@replaced-ip )
2 [00:00:22] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
3 [00:01:07] *** Quits: kapitalist (~kapitalis@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
4 [00:01:47] *** Joins: lucar (~lucar@replaced-ip )
5 [00:03:18] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
6 [00:05:50] *** Joins: juxsys (~xerxis@replaced-ip )
7 [00:06:11] *** Joins: gvth (~cell@replaced-ip )
8 [00:06:13] *** juxsys is now known as Guest35079
9 [00:07:26] *** Quits: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
10 [00:08:09] *** Joins: mastershake (~xerxis@replaced-ip )
11 [00:08:11] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
12 [00:08:23] *** Quits: oahong (~samigarus@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
13 [00:08:33] *** mastershake is now known as Guest64181
14 [00:09:11] *** Quits: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
15 [00:09:25] *** Quits: fassl (~fassl@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
16 [00:10:03] *** Quits: Guest35079 (~xerxis@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
17 [00:10:22] *** Joins: daniel-s (~daniel-s@replaced-ip )
18 [00:10:53] *** Quits: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
19 [00:11:07] *** Joins: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
20 [00:12:24] *** Joins: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip )
21 [00:12:26] *** Joins: jimmybear217 (~Mutter@replaced-ip )
22 [00:13:14] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
23 [00:13:55] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
24 [00:14:37] *** Joins: eamanu (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
25 [00:14:52] *** Quits: gvth (~cell@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
26 [00:14:56] *** Quits: n4dir (~n4dir@replaced-ip ) (Quit: relax harder)
27 [00:16:22] <jocic> Nevermind, I figured it out. (:
28 [00:16:47] *** Quits: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
29 [00:17:40] *** Quits: jocic (c3ce6824@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
30 [00:18:49] *** Quits: CaptainN (zelda@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
31 [00:18:49] *** Quits: Zta77 (~she@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
32 [00:18:54] *** Quits: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
33 [00:19:01] *** Joins: CaptainN (zelda@replaced-ip )
34 [00:19:05] *** Joins: daniel-s_ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip )
35 [00:19:36] *** Joins: andril (~andril@replaced-ip )
36 [00:19:39] *** Quits: daniel-s (~daniel-s@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
37 [00:19:57] *** Quits: Zta (~stephan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
38 [00:19:59] *** Joins: emucla (~emucla@replaced-ip )
39 [00:20:17] *** Quits: creichert (~user@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
40 [00:22:57] *** Joins: Matador23 (~Matador@replaced-ip )
41 [00:23:04] *** Quits: Matador23 (~Matador@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
42 [00:24:26] *** Quits: grayrider (~grayrider@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
43 [00:24:59] *** Joins: rioko (~rioko@replaced-ip )
44 [00:25:09] *** Quits: sauvin (sauvin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
45 [00:25:59] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
46 [00:26:03] *** Quits: HoSy (~HS_@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
47 [00:26:16] *** Joins: wudoo (~wudoo@replaced-ip )
48 [00:27:09] *** Quits: wnklmnn (~wnklmnn@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
49 [00:29:36] *** Quits: firechief1 (~firechief@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
50 [00:30:10] *** Quits: eamanu (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
51 [00:30:14] *** Quits: GaneshR (~ganeshraj@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
52 [00:32:56] *** Quits: aloo_shu (~atomic@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
53 [00:33:44] *** Joins: firechief1 (~firechief@replaced-ip )
54 [00:34:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1376
55 [00:34:21] *** Quits: Guest64181 (~xerxis@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
56 [00:36:10] *** Joins: aloo_shu (~atomic@replaced-ip )
57 [00:36:56] *** Quits: damiano_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
58 [00:37:04] *** Joins: sauvin (sauvin@replaced-ip )
59 [00:37:12] *** Quits: BOSNA (~Sokol@replaced-ip ) ()
60 [00:37:15] *** Quits: Pelle` (~Pelle`@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
61 [00:39:42] *** Joins: damiano (~quassel@replaced-ip )
62 [00:40:18] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
63 [00:41:22] *** Joins: tewn (~marina@replaced-ip )
64 [00:41:52] *** Joins: pzn (~pzn@replaced-ip )
65 [00:42:11] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
66 [00:42:30] *** Joins: Pelle` (~Pelle`@replaced-ip )
67 [00:42:33] *** Quits: navlys (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
68 [00:42:39] *** Joins: mftech (~mftech@replaced-ip )
69 [00:43:27] *** Parts: andril (~andril@replaced-ip ) ("WeeChat 2.3")
70 [00:44:05] *** Joins: juxsys (~xerxis@replaced-ip )
71 [00:44:28] *** juxsys is now known as Guest18654
72 [00:45:18] *** Joins: GaneshR (~ganeshraj@replaced-ip )
73 [00:45:22] *** Joins: rpifan (~rpifan@replaced-ip )
74 [00:45:24] *** Quits: nighty- (~nighty@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)
75 [00:45:26] *** Quits: Codier (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
76 [00:45:39] *** Quits: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
77 [00:46:00] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip )
78 [00:46:01] *** Quits: tryte_ (~tryte@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
79 [00:46:14] *** Joins: notkarl (~notkarl@replaced-ip )
80 [00:49:29] *** Quits: Guest74233 (~sjmulder@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
81 [00:49:29] *** Quits: sjmulder (~sjmulder@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
82 [00:50:14] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
83 [00:50:44] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
84 [00:51:26] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
85 [00:51:57] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
86 [00:52:58] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
87 [00:53:40] *** Quits: pzn (~pzn@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
88 [00:55:32] *** Quits: hypn0 (~h@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
89 [00:55:34] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
90 [00:55:44] *** Quits: aielima (~aielima@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
91 [00:55:47] *** Quits: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
92 [00:56:06] *** Joins: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip )
93 [00:59:19] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
94 [00:59:38] *** Quits: NinaWallace (~nina@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
95 [00:59:54] *** Quits: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
96 [01:00:27] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
97 [01:00:54] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
98 [01:02:07] *** Quits: lucar (~lucar@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
99 [01:02:27] *** Quits: MrAlexandr0 (~MrAlexand@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
100 [01:02:47] *** Quits: Xiphoid__ (Xiphoid@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
101 [01:03:10] *** Quits: ilmostro (~ilmostro@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)
102 [01:03:20] *** Quits: tagomago (~tagomago@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
103 [01:03:20] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
104 [01:04:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1366
105 [01:04:06] *** Joins: oahong (~samigarus@replaced-ip )
106 [01:04:12] *** Quits: finalbeta (~finalbeta@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
107 [01:04:20] *** Quits: i5513 (~javi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: i5513)
108 [01:05:40] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
109 [01:05:42] *** Quits: Cecil (~cecil@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
110 [01:07:45] *** Joins: lucar (~lucar@replaced-ip )
111 [01:08:32] *** Quits: mftech (~mftech@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
112 [01:08:40] *** Quits: Guest18654 (~xerxis@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
113 [01:09:14] *** Quits: pacbard (~pacbard@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
114 [01:09:19] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
115 [01:09:45] *** Joins: pacho02 (~herlyn@replaced-ip )
116 [01:10:04] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
117 [01:10:24] *** Joins: earthundead (~earthunde@replaced-ip )
118 [01:10:38] *** Joins: MrAlexandr0 (~MrAlexand@replaced-ip )
119 [01:11:49] *** Joins: n4dir (~n4dir@replaced-ip )
120 [01:12:14] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Quit)
121 [01:15:07] *** Joins: lead_pipe23_ (~Lead@replaced-ip )
122 [01:15:12] *** Quits: lead_pipe23 (~Lead@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
123 [01:15:38] *** Quits: rpifan (~rpifan@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
124 [01:15:45] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
125 [01:15:50] *** Joins: juxsys (~xerxis@replaced-ip )
126 [01:15:58] *** Quits: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
127 [01:16:14] *** juxsys is now known as Guest41305
128 [01:16:25] *** Joins: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip )
129 [01:16:49] *** Joins: gladst0ne (~gladst0ne@replaced-ip )
130 [01:18:23] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
131 [01:19:35] *** Joins: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip )
132 [01:20:01] *** Joins: rpifan (~rpifan@replaced-ip )
133 [01:20:11] *** Quits: Guest41305 (~xerxis@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
134 [01:20:37] *** Quits: earthundead (~earthunde@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
135 [01:21:58] *** Quits: borsin (~borsin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
136 [01:22:24] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip )
137 [01:22:54] *** Joins: Cecil (~cecil@replaced-ip )
138 [01:24:30] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
139 [01:24:49] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
140 [01:24:55] *** Joins: ilmostro (~ilmostro@replaced-ip )
141 [01:25:15] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
142 [01:25:22] *** Joins: cxc99 (~cxc99@replaced-ip )
143 [01:25:40] *** Joins: fkboy9000 (~fkboy9000@replaced-ip )
144 [01:26:20] *** Quits: aloo_shu (~atomic@replaced-ip ) (Disconnected by services)
145 [01:26:20] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
146 [01:26:36] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
147 [01:27:06] *** Joins: aloo_shu (~atomic@replaced-ip )
148 [01:27:18] *** Joins: krytarik (~krytarik@replaced-ip )
149 [01:27:46] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
150 [01:27:57] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
151 [01:28:15] *** Parts: gladst0ne (~gladst0ne@replaced-ip ) ()
152 [01:29:59] *** Quits: jmarsac (~jmarsac@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
153 [01:30:06] *** Joins: ilmostro1 (~ilmostro@replaced-ip )
154 [01:32:09] *** Joins: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip )
155 [01:32:09] *** Quits: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
156 [01:32:09] *** Joins: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip )
157 [01:32:21] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
158 [01:32:32] *** Quits: lucar (~lucar@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
159 [01:32:47] *** Joins: lucar (~lucar@replaced-ip )
160 [01:33:01] *** Quits: notkarl (~notkarl@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
161 [01:34:20] *** Quits: lucar (~lucar@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
162 [01:34:32] *** Joins: lucar (~lucar@replaced-ip )
163 [01:35:12] *** Quits: wildlander (~wildlande@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
164 [01:35:22] *** Joins: tryte_ (~tryte@replaced-ip )
165 [01:35:30] *** Joins: nighty- (~nighty@replaced-ip )
166 [01:35:39] *** Quits: ilmostro1 (~ilmostro@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)
167 [01:37:11] *** Joins: ilmostro1 (~ilmostro@replaced-ip )
168 [01:37:39] *** Quits: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
169 [01:38:23] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
170 [01:38:56] *** Quits: ilmostro1 (~ilmostro@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
171 [01:40:50] *** Quits: watchcat (~un@replaced-ip ) (Quit: .)
172 [01:42:09] *** Quits: rpifan (~rpifan@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
173 [01:42:11] *** Quits: nighty- (~nighty@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
174 [01:42:41] *** Joins: nighty- (~nighty@replaced-ip )
175 [01:43:48] *** Quits: dkmueller (~dkmueller@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
176 [01:43:55] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
177 [01:44:25] *** Parts: pacho02 (~herlyn@replaced-ip ) ()
178 [01:45:01] *** Joins: watchcat (~un@replaced-ip )
179 [01:45:38] *** Joins: [CaptainN] (zelda@replaced-ip )
180 [01:48:14] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip )
181 [01:48:49] *** Quits: bitess (~bites@replaced-ip ) (Quit: adios)
182 [01:49:11] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
183 [01:49:27] <awal1> thunar 1.8.2-1 (sid): mouse pointer blinks
non stop when positioned in any tree entry. anyone have same
"issue"?
184 [01:49:43] <awal1> just wanted to know if stable version is
"safe"
185 [01:49:43] *** Quits: CaptainN (zelda@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
186 [01:49:53] *** Quits: wudoo (~wudoo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
187 [01:50:20] *** Quits: Nokaji (~Nokaji@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
188 [01:50:55] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
189 [01:53:26] <tsarompy> awal1: have you tried asking in #xfce
190 [01:53:50] <tsarompy> id help you but im a kde user
191 [01:56:27] <awal1> tsarompy, not in xfce yet. will try thare.
thanks anyway :)
192 [01:56:55] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
193 [01:58:04] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
194 [02:00:07] *** Quits: uniqdom (~uniqdom@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
195 [02:00:22] *** Quits: Psy-Q (~psy-q@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
196 [02:00:42] *** Quits: ilmostro (~ilmostro@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Coyote finally caught me)
197 [02:00:47] *** Quits: seekr (~seekr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
198 [02:01:05] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip ) (Quit: See you around.)
199 [02:01:41] *** Joins: seekr (~seekr@replaced-ip )
200 [02:01:44] *** Joins: ilmostro (~ilmostro@replaced-ip )
201 [02:01:51] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip )
202 [02:02:00] *** Joins: sillyotter (~sillyotte@replaced-ip )
203 [02:02:10] *** Pascal is now known as r3m
204 [02:02:29] *** Joins: _tryte_ (~tryte@replaced-ip )
205 [02:02:30] *** Joins: Psy-Q (~psy-q@replaced-ip )
206 [02:02:47] *** Quits: Brigo_ (~Brigo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
207 [02:02:59] *** Quits: sillyotter (~sillyotte@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
208 [02:04:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1360
209 [02:04:13] *** Quits: tryte_ (~tryte@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
210 [02:04:38] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
211 [02:06:25] *** Joins: patterson_ (patterson@replaced-ip )
212 [02:06:28] *** Quits: ilmostro (~ilmostro@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Coyote finally caught me)
213 [02:06:48] *** Joins: cCkw (~ejakuk@replaced-ip )
214 [02:06:59] *** Quits: daniel-s_ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
215 [02:07:20] *** Joins: ilmostro (~ilmostro@replaced-ip )
216 [02:08:15] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
217 [02:08:17] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
218 [02:09:44] *** Joins: Freshnuts (Freshnuts@replaced-ip )
219 [02:09:45] *** Quits: cCkw (~ejakuk@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
220 [02:09:59] *** Joins: cCkw (~ejakuk@replaced-ip )
221 [02:10:04] *** Quits: Namarrgon (~Namarrgon@replaced-ip ) (Quit: uhoh)
222 [02:10:28] *** Quits: n_1-c_k (~nick@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
223 [02:10:49] *** Joins: n_1-c_k (~nick@replaced-ip )
224 [02:11:00] *** Joins: Namarrgon (~glei@replaced-ip )
225 [02:12:03] *** Quits: cCkw (~ejakuk@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
226 [02:12:22] *** Quits: vizius00 (~vizius00@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
227 [02:13:13] *** Joins: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip )
228 [02:13:26] *** Joins: daniel-s_ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip )
229 [02:13:29] *** Joins: vizius00 (~vizius00@replaced-ip )
230 [02:14:20] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
231 [02:15:03] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
232 [02:17:47] *** Quits: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
233 [02:19:02] *** Quits: tewn (~marina@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
234 [02:19:58] *** Quits: apt (ibot@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
235 [02:20:03] *** Quits: ilmostro (~ilmostro@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Coyote finally caught me)
236 [02:20:41] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
237 [02:20:50] *** Quits: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
238 [02:21:01] *** Joins: velix (~Velix@replaced-ip )
239 [02:21:25] <velix> Hmm, why isn't pkg-config in
build-essential? I think, lots of applications are needing it for
building.
240 [02:21:25] *** Joins: apt (ibot@replaced-ip )
241 [02:22:36] *** Joins: ilmostro (~ilmostro@replaced-ip )
242 [02:22:38] *** Joins: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip )
243 [02:22:43] *** Quits: patterson_ (patterson@replaced-ip ) ()
244 [02:23:25] *** Quits: apt (ibot@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
245 [02:23:56] *** Joins: apt (ibot@replaced-ip )
246 [02:25:37] *** Joins: ivlioioilvi (~ivlioioil@replaced-ip )
247 [02:26:09] *** Quits: rypervenche (~rypervenc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: brb)
248 [02:26:19] *** Joins: arescorpio (~arescorpi@replaced-ip )
249 [02:26:35] *** Quits: ivlioioilvi (~ivlioioil@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
250 [02:27:16] *** Joins: ivlioioilvi (~ivlioioil@replaced-ip )
251 [02:27:36] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
252 [02:27:50] *** Joins: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip )
253 [02:28:34] *** Joins: spencer5cent (~OS-41783@replaced-ip )
254 [02:28:37] *** Joins: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip )
255 [02:30:45] <awal1> why if i cd to x dir and create a m3u file
(audio) that file won'¡t be played if moved to another
dir?
256 [02:31:10] <awal1> "ls *.mp3 > mymusic.m3u"
257 [02:31:10] *** Quits: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
258 [02:31:25] *** Quits: ivlioioilvi (~ivlioioil@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
259 [02:32:32] *** Quits: spencer5cent (~OS-41783@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
260 [02:33:00] *** Joins: rypervenche (~rypervenc@replaced-ip )
261 [02:33:09] *** Joins: SofS (~SofS@replaced-ip )
262 [02:33:11] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
263 [02:34:15] *** Quits: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
264 [02:36:26] *** Quits: [CaptainN] (zelda@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
265 [02:39:39] *** Joins: Emmet_brwn (~Emmet_brw@replaced-ip )
266 [02:41:18] *** Quits: hakash_ (~hakash@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
267 [02:42:14] *** Joins: ryouma (~user@replaced-ip )
268 [02:43:50] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
269 [02:44:06] *** Joins: bnw (~bnw@replaced-ip )
270 [02:44:31] <joepublic> awal1, that creates an m3u that has
relative paths (files must be in a particular place relative to
where the m3u file is). create the m3u file with full pathnames for
one you can move around.
271 [02:44:37] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
272 [02:46:17] *** Quits: Emmet_brwn (~Emmet_brw@replaced-ip ) ()
273 [02:49:17] *** Joins: CaptainN (zelda@replaced-ip )
274 [02:49:22] *** Quits: amcorreia (~amcorreia@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
275 [02:49:41] <joepublic> awal1, you might try: find `pwd`
-maxdepth 1 -name "*.mp3" > mymusicwithfullpath.m3u
276 [02:49:48] *** Quits: monstar (~mitya@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
277 [02:51:38] <awal1> joepublic, you mean i must do "ls
*.mp3 > ~/Music/mymusic.m3u" ?
278 [02:52:17] <joepublic> No, I do not mean that. The full path
of each mp3 must be specified in the m3u file for you to be able to
move the m3u file and have it still work.
279 [02:52:36] *** Joins: terr__ (~terr@replaced-ip )
280 [02:52:38] <joepublic> "ls *.mp3" doesn't
output the full path so it won't do what you describe.
281 [02:52:50] <joepublic> using find as I mentioned will output
the full path.
282 [02:53:21] <\dev\cache> what do you guys use for Data
Integrity, or Checksum software other than ZFS?
283 [02:53:30] <\dev\cache> or what exists in the enterprise
market any idea?
284 [02:53:41] <\dev\cache> something with self healing and data
at rest encryption would be great.
285 [02:53:49] *** Quits: oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
286 [02:54:38] <awal1> joepublic, I use *.mp3 bcoz i already
cdied to the dir where .mp3 are
287 [02:55:05] <joepublic> awal1, yeah, well, you might try: find
`pwd` -maxdepth 1 -name "*.mp3" >
mymusicwithfullpath.m3u
288 [02:55:25] <Krennic> even im like a week on debian one
question is youtube.dl opensouce free or is a non-free open source
that i can install on my debian
289 [02:55:39] <joepublic> awal1, or if you prefer: find `pwd`
-maxdepth 1 -name "*.mp3" > whateveryouwanttocallit.m3u
290 [02:55:42] *** Quits: terr_ (~terr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
291 [02:56:07] <awal1> joepublic, after cding to the dir where i
have the mp3 files or not?
292 [02:56:19] <joepublic> after cding to that directory.
293 [02:56:23] <awal1> ok
294 [02:56:47] <joepublic> (or instead of "`pwd`" put
"/name/of/that/directory")
295 [02:58:22] <phogg> in what circumstance is pwd not going to
be the same as .
296 [02:58:38] <joepublic> Krennic, youtube-dl is free software
in debian main. sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
297 [02:58:56] <joepublic> phogg: when he moves the .m3u file
they will become different.
298 [02:59:16] <Krennic> ok ty joepublic
299 [02:59:26] <n4dir> awal1: in general you don't want to
use ls for anything but look at it.
300 [02:59:32] <phogg> joepublic: find . -printf '%p\n'
# problem solved
301 [02:59:56] *** Quits: jimmybear217 (~Mutter@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
302 [02:59:58] <phogg> hmm, or no... it's not
303 [03:00:01] <phogg> interesting
304 [03:00:02] <n4dir> phogg: well, a quick test, and using pwd
give full path ; . only gives relative path.
305 [03:00:10] <joepublic> phogg: I respectfully disagree.
306 [03:00:22] <n4dir> pretty astonished bout it.
307 [03:00:46] <awal1> joepublic, thanks "find `pwd`
-maxdepth 1 -name "*.mp3" >
mymusicwithfullpath.m3u" works fine. now I can move the files
anywhere and play them
308 [03:00:50] <phogg> joepublic: I stand corrected. There
isn't a printf option which canonicalizes.
309 [03:00:53] <awal1> ok, n4dir
310 [03:01:05] <joepublic> awal1, excellent.
311 [03:01:20] <phogg> it would have to be done as: find . -exec
readlink -f {} +
312 [03:01:23] <awal1> joepublic, I am clueless about find and ls
; I have to check that command closely now
313 [03:01:29] *** Quits: ChmEarl (~chmearl@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
314 [03:01:32] <n4dir> awal1: it is pitfall number one at
mywiki.wooledge.org. It's worth to remember, imho.
315 [03:01:46] <awal1> n4dir, good
316 [03:02:08] <joepublic> The find command is really powerful
and pretty complicated. I don't half understand it, probably
never will. Best I can do is make it do tricks.
317 [03:02:46] <phogg> joepublic: when you understand -prune it
will be time for you to leave.
318 [03:02:52] *** Quits: jetchisel (~jetchisel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
319 [03:03:00] *** Joins: OS-42611 (~OS-42611@replaced-ip )
320 [03:03:00] <joepublic> no doubt.
321 [03:03:06] *** Quits: bollo (~bollo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
322 [03:03:09] <awal1> yeah it is complicated, I just know a few
stuff
323 [03:03:20] <ryouma> it's actually possible to udnerstand
it. i think rsync man page, bash man page are slightly more insane.
324 [03:03:34] <ryouma> -prune is the worst part though. but it
is fast.
325 [03:03:39] <n4dir> haha. oh yes, at least rsync is a tough
one.
326 [03:03:40] <phogg> ryouma: rsync is not as counter intuitive.
327 [03:03:44] *** Joins: Emmet_brwn (~Emmet_brw@replaced-ip )
328 [03:04:07] *** Joins: bollo (~bollo@replaced-ip )
329 [03:04:14] <phogg> Lots of commands have tricky parts. tar
exclusion patterns, anyone?
330 [03:04:21] <ryouma> i beg to differ. rsync has all these
combined things (artchive option) and exceptions and stuff, plus all
that include exclude syntax that still cannot do things you really
want to do
331 [03:04:50] <phogg> ryouma: I didn't say it was not
complicated, but that it doesn't run counter to intuition.
332 [03:04:59] *** Quits: combro2k (~combro2k@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
333 [03:05:22] *** Joins: combro2k (~combro2k@replaced-ip )
334 [03:06:11] <phogg> If you think more like a computer most of
these things get easier. They're not hard on purpose,
they're just not written with humans in mind. Take sed as
another example.
335 [03:06:15] <ryouma> find does not bother my intuition much.
exceptions to stuff really bother me. whether it's my intuition
of sense of good ui.
336 [03:06:18] <OS-42611> !observer
337 [03:06:30] <ryouma> no thanks, i will not take sed
338 [03:06:39] <ryouma> take my sed
339 [03:06:40] <ryouma> please!
340 [03:06:42] <joepublic> I love sed
341 [03:07:28] <ryouma> or*
342 [03:07:37] <ryouma> i use sed all the time but only the
basics
343 [03:07:50] <phogg> Understanding sed is a bit like
understanding Finnegan's Wake.
344 [03:08:15] <phogg> A little is easier, but to understand it
completely means becoming slightly disconnected with all other
reality.
345 [03:08:39] *** Quits: n4dir (~n4dir@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
346 [03:08:59] *** Joins: grayrider (~grayrider@replaced-ip )
347 [03:09:59] <awal1> " ffmpeg -i mymusic.m3u mymusic.opus
" I get "Izriw.m3u: Invalid data found when processing
input"
348 [03:10:13] *** Quits: SofS (~SofS@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
349 [03:10:24] *** Joins: n4dir (~n4dir@replaced-ip )
350 [03:11:44] *** Quits: grayrider (~grayrider@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
351 [03:11:59] <awal1> in fact what I am trying to do is put
together all the mp3 audio file in just one file with .opus
extension
352 [03:12:46] <phogg> awal1: you mean you're trying to
transcode a series of mp3s into a single opus file.
353 [03:12:46] <awal1> have one opus audio file for each album
354 [03:12:57] <awal1> phogg yes
355 [03:13:07] <mason> I'm curious about something - what do
people see as the most natural replacement for full-system FreeBSD
jails, in Debian?
356 [03:13:09] <phogg> can ffmpeg even read m3u files? I've
no idea
357 [03:13:46] <joepublic> awal1, you can do cat *.mp3 >
one-big-mp3.mp3
358 [03:14:03] <joepublic> and then convert one-big-mp3.mp3 to
something.opus.
359 [03:14:03] *** Joins: patterson_ (patterson@replaced-ip )
360 [03:14:03] <phogg> mpgjoing would better
361 [03:14:09] <phogg> er, mpgjoin
362 [03:14:11] <awal1> joepublic, phogg, my initial goal is in
fact put together/transcode a few mp3 audio files into a single opus
file yes
363 [03:14:31] <joepublic> That's a very ugly solution,
(leaves debris in the middle of one-big-mp3.mp3) but could work.
364 [03:14:37] <awal1> joepublic ok let me try
365 [03:15:03] <phogg> joepublic: mpgtx (and its friends,
mpgcat/mpgjoin) are the non-ugly solution
366 [03:15:05] <awal1> i dont care about debris , for now it is
fine for start :)
367 [03:15:24] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
368 [03:15:36] <awal1> my albums are already halp "bad"
bcoz both pirated yet
369 [03:15:40] <awal1> half
370 [03:15:45] <awal1> bought
371 [03:15:55] <joepublic> hmm, there is apparently something
called mp3wrap that's better at it. apt-cache search mp3wrap
372 [03:16:53] <awal1> joepublic, nice. i will try it
373 [03:17:09] *** Quits: vivid (~ViViD@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
374 [03:17:35] *** Joins: vivid (~ViViD@replaced-ip )
375 [03:18:24] *** Joins: finalbeta (~finalbeta@replaced-ip )
376 [03:19:48] *** Joins: [b0b] (~bob@replaced-ip )
377 [03:19:58] *** Quits: martybr (~marty@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
378 [03:22:46] <awal1> joepublic, "cat *.mp3 >
mymusic.mp3" works fine thanks
379 [03:23:01] <mason> Hrm, maybe I want to play with OpenVZ a
bit.
380 [03:23:07] *** Joins: sidmo (~ident@replaced-ip )
381 [03:23:21] *** Quits: b0b (~bob@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
382 [03:23:24] *** [b0b] is now known as b0b
383 [03:23:29] <joepublic> I am glad. For the record, cat is the
wrong tool to use for mp3 (Even if it works) and I apologize for
recommending it.
384 [03:24:14] *** Joins: Jacques (~demo@replaced-ip )
385 [03:24:37] *** Jacques is now known as Guest21157
386 [03:24:40] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
387 [03:24:56] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip )
388 [03:25:00] *** Quits: Guest21157 (~demo@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
389 [03:25:18] *** Quits: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
390 [03:25:18] *** Quits: alexandros_c (~alexandro@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
391 [03:25:24] *** Quits: teksimian (~teksimian@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
392 [03:26:29] *** Joins: teksimian (~teksimian@replaced-ip )
393 [03:26:51] <awal1> joepublic, I learned today thanks. I will
try to work find and cat commands better if I have time but in short
I will use 'mp3wrap' later because of convenience, more
practical bcoz I have dozens of albums.
394 [03:27:03] <awal1> and you know "Why pull the cart if
you have horses" :P
395 [03:27:25] <joepublic> awal1, you are very welcome. It is
good to see curiosity and learning. Peace.
396 [03:27:34] <awal1> stupid capitalism, we don't have time
even for eat
397 [03:27:34] *** Quits: sidmo_ (~ident@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
398 [03:27:49] *** Quits: nyov (~nyov@replaced-ip ) (Killed (leguin.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))
399 [03:27:52] <joepublic> Yeah that is one of its problems for
most people living under it
400 [03:27:57] *** Joins: nyov (~nyov@replaced-ip )
401 [03:27:57] <joepublic> Den
402 [03:28:01] *** Joins: tom3 (~tom@replaced-ip )
403 [03:28:01] *** Joins: toxync12- (~toxync12@replaced-ip )
404 [03:28:04] <joepublic> gee wrong window sorry
405 [03:28:06] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
406 [03:28:18] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
407 [03:28:24] *** Joins: crimson_king (~crimson_k@replaced-ip )
408 [03:28:35] *** Joins: SofS (~SofS@replaced-ip )
409 [03:28:38] <awal1> i am i canada, pure capitalism
410 [03:28:50] *** Quits: frikinz (~me@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
411 [03:28:52] *** Parts: OS-42611 (~OS-42611@replaced-ip ) ("Leaving")
412 [03:28:53] <awal1> sometimes deguised in false socialism
413 [03:28:55] <awal1> :D
414 [03:29:04] *** Joins: frikinz (~me@replaced-ip )
415 [03:29:07] <awal1> thanks for your time guys :)
416 [03:29:08] *** Quits: toxync12 (~toxync12@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
417 [03:30:04] *** Quits: Buliarous (~gypsydang@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
418 [03:30:11] *** Joins: Buliarous (~gypsydang@replaced-ip )
419 [03:31:43] *** Quits: djanos (~djanos@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - ##replaced-url
420 [03:31:55] *** Joins: djanos (~djanos@replaced-ip )
421 [03:32:16] *** Joins: bnk (~bnk@replaced-ip )
422 [03:32:55] *** Quits: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
423 [03:33:09] *** Parts: bnk (~bnk@replaced-ip ) ()
424 [03:33:27] *** Joins: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip )
425 [03:34:00] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
426 [03:34:56] *** Quits: hele (~hele@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
427 [03:35:07] *** Quits: Linuxlars (~linuxlars@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
428 [03:35:10] *** Quits: toxync12- (~toxync12@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
429 [03:35:21] *** Joins: Linuxlars (~linuxlars@replaced-ip )
430 [03:36:10] *** Joins: toxync12 (~toxync12@replaced-ip )
431 [03:38:15] *** Quits: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
432 [03:39:33] *** Joins: RandomSerb (~RandomSer@replaced-ip )
433 [03:40:34] *** Quits: Emmet_brwn (~Emmet_brw@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
434 [03:40:46] *** Joins: ivlioioilvi (~ivlioioil@replaced-ip )
435 [03:42:53] *** Joins: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip )
436 [03:43:37] *** Joins: MenschZwoNull__ (~MenschZwo@replaced-ip )
437 [03:44:42] *** Joins: zhxk (~androirc@replaced-ip )
438 [03:45:45] *** Quits: zhxk (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
439 [03:45:58] *** Quits: rabbitear_sdf (kreator@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
440 [03:46:12] *** Quits: MenschZwoNull_ (~MenschZwo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
441 [03:46:38] *** Quits: ktux (~ktux@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
442 [03:46:55] *** Joins: rabbitear_sdf (kreator@replaced-ip )
443 [03:47:21] *** Joins: ktux (~ktux@replaced-ip )
444 [03:48:05] *** Quits: tom3 (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
445 [03:53:12] *** Joins: jimmybear217 (~Mutter@replaced-ip )
446 [03:54:27] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
447 [03:55:21] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
448 [03:55:56] *** Quits: crimson_king (~crimson_k@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
449 [03:56:45] *** Joins: whjeon (~whjeon@replaced-ip )
450 [03:57:28] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
451 [03:57:29] *** Quits: goberle (~goberle@replaced-ip ) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
452 [03:57:56] *** Quits: Krennic (~Krennic@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
453 [03:58:36] *** Quits: vivid (~ViViD@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
454 [03:58:43] *** Joins: goberle (~goberle@replaced-ip )
455 [03:58:51] *** Quits: whjeon (~whjeon@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
456 [04:02:12] *** Quits: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
457 [04:04:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1354
458 [04:04:51] *** Quits: chalcedony (~chalcedon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
459 [04:05:29] *** Quits: banc (~master@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
460 [04:05:42] *** Joins: creichert (~user@replaced-ip )
461 [04:05:52] *** Joins: zeden (~user@replaced-ip )
462 [04:08:47] *** Joins: chalcedony (~chalcedon@replaced-ip )
463 [04:10:21] *** Joins: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
464 [04:10:32] *** Quits: dArK_IcE (~lawl@replaced-ip ) ()
465 [04:11:27] *** Quits: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
466 [04:12:50] *** Quits: joepublic (~joe@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
467 [04:14:17] *** Joins: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip )
468 [04:14:53] *** Quits: uNmowed6 (~Kaede@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
469 [04:17:18] *** Quits: Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
470 [04:18:15] *** Joins: FuturePilot (~Fufu@replaced-ip )
471 [04:19:30] *** Quits: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
472 [04:20:17] *** Quits: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
473 [04:22:01] *** Joins: banc (~master@replaced-ip )
474 [04:23:03] *** Joins: buddhirt (~buddhirt@replaced-ip )
475 [04:26:37] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
476 [04:26:57] *** Joins: zerokarmaleft22 (~zerokarma@replaced-ip )
477 [04:26:58] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
478 [04:27:07] *** Quits: SuperDome (SuperDome@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
479 [04:27:17] *** Quits: zerokarmaleft22 (~zerokarma@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
480 [04:27:30] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
481 [04:28:14] *** Joins: SuperDome (SuperDome@replaced-ip )
482 [04:30:21] *** Quits: banisterfiend (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
483 [04:33:01] *** Quits: deadz0 (~deadz0@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
484 [04:34:14] *** Quits: abff (~abff@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
485 [04:35:05] *** Joins: banisterfiend (~textual@replaced-ip )
486 [04:35:47] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
487 [04:35:57] *** Quits: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
488 [04:36:10] *** Joins: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip )
489 [04:36:13] *** Quits: paulgrmn (~paulgrmn@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
490 [04:36:47] *** Joins: abff (~abff@replaced-ip )
491 [04:37:53] *** Joins: Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@replaced-ip )
492 [04:39:00] *** Joins: s (65607826@replaced-ip )
493 [04:39:05] *** Quits: s (65607826@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
494 [04:39:28] *** Joins: zhxk (~123@replaced-ip )
495 [04:40:04] *** Quits: zeden (~user@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.2)
496 [04:40:40] *** Joins: Thedarkb1-T60 (~Thedarkb-@replaced-ip )
497 [04:40:40] *** Joins: Thedarkb2-M90 (~Thedarkb3@replaced-ip )
498 [04:41:06] *** Quits: banisterfiend (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
499 [04:42:31] *** Quits: JPT (~jpt@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
500 [04:42:58] *** Quits: Thedarkb-T60 (~Thedarkb-@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
501 [04:43:14] *** Quits: Thedarkb1-M90 (~Thedarkb3@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
502 [04:43:29] *** Joins: revmoo (~brian@replaced-ip )
503 [04:43:42] *** Joins: xjlk (~Cru3L@replaced-ip )
504 [04:44:43] *** Joins: s__ (65607826@replaced-ip )
505 [04:44:48] *** Quits: revmoo (~brian@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
506 [04:45:06] *** Joins: NeoZed (~ursu@replaced-ip )
507 [04:46:46] *** Quits: plouesc4t (~jt@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
508 [04:47:44] *** Quits: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ukine)
509 [04:47:49] *** Quits: xjlk (~Cru3L@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
510 [04:49:19] *** Joins: crimson_king (~crimson_k@replaced-ip )
511 [04:50:21] *** Joins: xjlk (~Cru3L@replaced-ip )
512 [04:50:30] *** Quits: xjlk (~Cru3L@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
513 [04:50:55] *** Joins: olegfusion (~olegfusio@replaced-ip )
514 [04:51:24] *** Quits: crimson_king (~crimson_k@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
515 [04:51:40] *** Joins: crimson_king (~crimson_k@replaced-ip )
516 [04:52:04] *** Quits: s__ (65607826@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
517 [04:52:42] <crimson_king> trying to read an .epub file on
Debian 9.6 Xfce. File not supported, says Evince. Installed
epub-utils, but still did not open it.
518 [04:54:21] *** Quits: m_g_lewis (~m_g_lewis@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
519 [04:54:39] *** Quits: jimmybear217 (~Mutter@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Mutter: ##replaced-url
520 [04:54:42] *** Quits: _tryte_ (~tryte@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
521 [04:54:46] *** Joins: wireshark (~none@replaced-ip )
522 [04:54:51] *** Joins: JPT (~jpt@replaced-ip )
523 [04:55:00] *** Joins: jimmybear217 (~Mutter@replaced-ip )
524 [04:55:10] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
525 [04:55:16] *** Joins: _tryte_ (~tryte@replaced-ip )
526 [04:57:11] *** Quits: buspirate (~none@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
527 [04:57:22] *** Joins: m_g_lewis (~m_g_lewis@replaced-ip )
528 [04:59:02] *** Joins: xjlk (~Cru3L@replaced-ip )
529 [04:59:30] *** Quits: ExoUNX (~ExoUNX@replaced-ip ) (Quit: I'm leaving these neckbeards)
530 [04:59:59] *** Joins: Kon- (~Leevancle@replaced-ip )
531 [05:00:21] *** Quits: xjlk (~Cru3L@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
532 [05:00:45] *** Joins: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip )
533 [05:02:02] *** Quits: SofS (~SofS@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
534 [05:02:49] *** Quits: elibrokeit (eschwartz@replaced-ip ) (Quit: A random quit message)
535 [05:03:03] *** Joins: elibrokeit (eschwartz@replaced-ip )
536 [05:04:28] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
537 [05:08:41] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
538 [05:09:41] *** Joins: ExoUNX (~ExoUNX@replaced-ip )
539 [05:09:58] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
540 [05:10:11] *** Quits: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip ) (Quit: iflema)
541 [05:10:26] *** Quits: hufdufhv (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
542 [05:10:30] *** Joins: xjlk (~huy@replaced-ip )
543 [05:10:33] *** Quits: _tryte_ (~tryte@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
544 [05:10:52] *** Joins: hufdufhv (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
545 [05:11:17] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip )
546 [05:11:41] *** Parts: xjlk (~huy@replaced-ip ) ()
547 [05:12:17] *** Quits: GaneshR (~ganeshraj@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
548 [05:12:30] *** Quits: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
549 [05:13:07] *** Joins: s__ (~huy@replaced-ip )
550 [05:13:17] <ledeni> crimson_king: install 'calibre'
551 [05:13:18] *** Joins: Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@replaced-ip )
552 [05:14:08] *** Quits: n4dir (~n4dir@replaced-ip ) (Quit: relax harder)
553 [05:21:44] <Kon-> Hi, how are version updates deployed for
packages in sid? I noticed the Plasma desktop is still on 5.13 in
sid even though 5.14 has been out for over a month
554 [05:22:34] <dvs> Kon-, it's up to the maintainer to
update the package.
555 [05:23:08] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
556 [05:23:28] <Kon-> Thanks
557 [05:24:29] *** Quits: hufdufhv (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
558 [05:24:51] *** Joins: hufdufhv (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
559 [05:25:15] *** Joins: maxrazer (~razer@replaced-ip )
560 [05:25:35] *** Joins: hakash_ (~hakash@replaced-ip )
561 [05:26:58] <maxrazer> Anyone else not have audio with
Chromium 70 on Debian Sid?
562 [05:27:06] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
563 [05:27:11] *** Quits: sweatsuit (~sweatsuit@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
564 [05:27:35] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
565 [05:30:05] *** Joins: s8548a (~s8548a@replaced-ip )
566 [05:31:27] *** Joins: Nexilva (~Nexilva@replaced-ip )
567 [05:32:22] *** Joins: xjlk2 (~Cru3L@replaced-ip )
568 [05:32:53] *** Joins: sweatsuit (~sweatsuit@replaced-ip )
569 [05:33:39] *** Joins: emma (~em@replaced-ip )
570 [05:33:59] <emma> Is Ardesia in Debian?
571 [05:35:03] *** Quits: arescorpio (~arescorpi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
572 [05:35:12] <emma> !info ardesia
573 [05:36:17] *** Quits: s__ (~huy@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
574 [05:36:51] <elios> emma: only in sid so far.
575 [05:36:53] *** Joins: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip )
576 [05:38:03] *** Joins: Svelt0n (~quassel@replaced-ip )
577 [05:38:29] <Unit193> As was answered in #kubuntu #840959 was
the removal bug, only in old-old-stable.
578 [05:38:30] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
579 [05:38:49] *** Quits: xjlk2 (~Cru3L@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
580 [05:39:07] *** Quits: maxrazer (~razer@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
581 [05:40:57] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
582 [05:41:24] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
583 [05:42:28] *** Joins: siwica` (~user@replaced-ip )
584 [05:42:45] *** Joins: juxsys (~xerxis@replaced-ip )
585 [05:42:52] *** Quits: juxsys (~xerxis@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
586 [05:43:10] *** Joins: Guest60523 (~xerxis@replaced-ip )
587 [05:44:26] *** Quits: siwica (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
588 [05:45:18] *** Joins: NeoZed_ (~ursu@replaced-ip )
589 [05:45:34] *** Quits: NeoZed (~ursu@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
590 [05:46:18] *** Guest60523 is now known as juxsys
591 [05:46:21] *** Quits: zhxk (~123@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
592 [05:46:31] <juxsys> ay
593 [05:46:50] *** Joins: monksam (~monksam@replaced-ip )
594 [05:48:26] *** Parts: juxsys (~xerxis@replaced-ip ) ()
595 [05:48:39] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
596 [05:52:50] *** Joins: jetchisel (~jetchisel@replaced-ip )
597 [05:53:32] *** Quits: diniwed (~gavron@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
598 [05:56:09] *** Joins: tikun (~David@replaced-ip )
599 [05:57:00] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
600 [05:57:07] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
601 [05:57:37] *** Quits: hwm4rgs (~hwm4rgs@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
602 [05:58:22] *** Joins: hwm4rgs (~hwm4rgs@replaced-ip )
603 [05:58:51] *** Quits: sikun (~David@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
604 [06:00:21] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
605 [06:01:28] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
606 [06:01:36] *** Quits: ivlioioilvi (~ivlioioil@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
607 [06:02:07] *** Quits: Svelt0n (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
608 [06:02:22] *** Joins: ivlioioilvi (~ivlioioil@replaced-ip )
609 [06:04:11] *** Quits: Toadisattva (~Toadisatt@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
610 [06:04:40] *** Joins: Toadisattva (~Toadisatt@replaced-ip )
611 [06:05:01] *** Quits: Mazhive_one (~Mazhive@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
612 [06:05:27] *** Joins: Mazhive (~Mazhive@replaced-ip )
613 [06:05:27] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
614 [06:06:21] *** Quits: donofrio (~donofrio@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
615 [06:08:21] *** Quits: aloo_shu (~atomic@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
616 [06:09:01] *** Quits: beaver (~none@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
617 [06:09:59] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
618 [06:10:14] <piercedwater> good evening debianers
619 [06:10:34] *** Quits: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
620 [06:11:00] *** Parts: jimmybear217 (~Mutter@replaced-ip ) ()
621 [06:12:27] *** Quits: ivlioioilvi (~ivlioioil@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
622 [06:13:40] *** Joins: grayrider (~grayrider@replaced-ip )
623 [06:13:46] <awal1> joepublic, mp3wrap works like a charm :)
624 [06:14:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1347
625 [06:14:08] *** Quits: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
626 [06:15:04] *** Joins: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip )
627 [06:16:28] *** Joins: sahar69 (~sahar69@replaced-ip )
628 [06:17:20] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
629 [06:17:59] *** Joins: dab21 (~dab21@replaced-ip )
630 [06:19:12] *** Quits: n_1-c_k (~nick@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
631 [06:19:23] *** Joins: n_1-c_k (~nick@replaced-ip )
632 [06:19:27] *** Joins: Vfd44 (~prim@replaced-ip )
633 [06:19:44] *** Joins: banisterfiend (~textual@replaced-ip )
634 [06:19:50] *** Quits: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
635 [06:21:01] *** Joins: donofrio (~donofrio@replaced-ip )
636 [06:22:31] *** Quits: grayrider (~grayrider@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
637 [06:23:10] *** Joins: fkboy9000_ (~fkboy9000@replaced-ip )
638 [06:24:27] *** Quits: fkboy9000 (~fkboy9000@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
639 [06:25:39] *** Quits: Vfd44 (~prim@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
640 [06:25:51] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
641 [06:26:54] *** Joins: Vfd44 (~prim@replaced-ip )
642 [06:27:40] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
643 [06:27:45] <c|oneman> how do I configure something that
doesn't have configure, just configure.ac
replaced-url
644 [06:28:13] *** Quits: Vfd44 (~prim@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
645 [06:28:40] *** Joins: diogenes_ (~diogenes_@replaced-ip )
646 [06:28:50] *** Joins: cfoch (uid153227@replaced-ip )
647 [06:29:32] <dab21> c|oneman: Try "autoreconf -i",
then you should have a configure script to run.
648 [06:29:57] <c|oneman> le sigh.
649 [06:30:34] <dab21> Assuming you have autotools installed.
650 [06:30:36] *** Quits: martian67 (~martian67@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
651 [06:31:01] *** Joins: BeerHall (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
652 [06:31:01] *** Joins: martian67 (~martian67@replaced-ip )
653 [06:31:16] *** Joins: Xiphoid (Xiphoid@replaced-ip )
654 [06:32:11] *** Joins: towo^work (~towo@replaced-ip )
655 [06:33:07] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
656 [06:34:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1354
657 [06:34:37] *** Quits: sahar69 (~sahar69@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
658 [06:38:21] *** Joins: Ericounet (~Eric@replaced-ip )
659 [06:41:41] *** Quits: binaryhermit (~binaryher@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)
660 [06:43:08] *** Joins: binaryhermit (~binaryher@replaced-ip )
661 [06:44:29] *** Quits: ExoUNX (~ExoUNX@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
662 [06:45:06] *** Quits: relaxed (~relaxed@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
663 [06:45:59] *** Joins: mrjpaxton (~weechat@replaced-ip )
664 [06:46:46] *** Joins: pvdp (~pvdp@replaced-ip )
665 [06:55:36] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
666 [06:56:42] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
667 [06:59:03] *** Quits: CrystalMath (~coderain@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Support Free Software - ##replaced-url
668 [07:00:30] *** Quits: Pjusur (~Pjusur@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
669 [07:01:12] *** Quits: binaryhermit (~binaryher@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
670 [07:01:18] *** Joins: cerenous (~cerenous@replaced-ip )
671 [07:01:24] *** Joins: Espopore (~Espopore@replaced-ip )
672 [07:01:54] *** Joins: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip )
673 [07:03:05] *** Quits: BeerHall (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
674 [07:08:43] *** Joins: BeerHall (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
675 [07:10:07] *** Quits: laptop2 (~my123@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
676 [07:11:56] *** Joins: velix_inuse (~Velix@replaced-ip )
677 [07:13:22] *** Quits: Xiphoid (Xiphoid@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
678 [07:15:33] *** Quits: velix (~Velix@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
679 [07:16:26] *** Joins: datasmurf (~datasmurf@replaced-ip )
680 [07:22:00] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
681 [07:25:13] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
682 [07:28:29] *** Joins: binaryhermit (~binaryher@replaced-ip )
683 [07:29:16] *** Joins: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip )
684 [07:29:18] *** Quits: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
685 [07:29:40] *** Joins: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip )
686 [07:30:13] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
687 [07:30:27] *** Quits: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
688 [07:31:26] *** Quits: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
689 [07:31:29] *** Joins: s__ (~s@replaced-ip )
690 [07:32:49] *** Quits: s__ (~s@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
691 [07:33:01] *** Joins: spectralthief (~julian-bn@replaced-ip )
692 [07:33:19] *** Joins: s__ (~s@replaced-ip )
693 [07:33:29] *** Quits: spectralthief (~julian-bn@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
694 [07:33:48] *** def_jam is now known as eb0t
695 [07:33:56] *** Quits: daniel-s_ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
696 [07:34:30] *** Joins: daniel-s_ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip )
697 [07:40:03] *** Quits: krytarik (~krytarik@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Wychodzi)
698 [07:40:51] *** Quits: monksam (~monksam@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
699 [07:42:07] *** Quits: Toadisattva (~Toadisatt@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
700 [07:42:07] *** Joins: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip )
701 [07:42:27] *** Quits: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
702 [07:43:36] *** Joins: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip )
703 [07:43:46] *** Joins: mrig (~mrig@replaced-ip )
704 [07:44:44] *** Quits: s__ (~s@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
705 [07:45:10] *** Joins: Pjusur (~Pjusur@replaced-ip )
706 [07:45:56] *** Joins: airwind (~belovent@replaced-ip )
707 [07:46:51] *** Joins: Barones (~Barones@replaced-ip )
708 [07:49:05] *** Joins: mito__ (~mito@replaced-ip )
709 [07:49:35] *** Joins: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip )
710 [07:50:03] *** Quits: rant (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
711 [07:50:28] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
712 [07:50:49] *** Quits: maxdamage (an@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)
713 [07:51:33] *** Joins: zeroone (~zeroone@replaced-ip )
714 [07:53:15] *** Quits: diogenes_ (~diogenes_@replaced-ip ) (Quit: vergissmeinnicht)
715 [07:53:42] *** Quits: darkghost7 (~darkghost@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
716 [07:54:14] *** Joins: azamet (cf946f5e@replaced-ip )
717 [07:54:49] <azamet> how to find access point physical
location?
718 [07:55:37] *** Quits: zeroone (~zeroone@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
719 [07:55:42] *** Joins: relaxed (~relaxed@replaced-ip )
720 [07:56:02] *** Joins: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip )
721 [07:56:30] *** Joins: ghost00 (ac6f882b@replaced-ip )
722 [07:56:38] *** Joins: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip )
723 [07:57:24] *** Joins: s__ (~s@replaced-ip )
724 [07:57:39] *** Quits: s8548a (~s8548a@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
725 [07:59:03] *** Joins: dionysus69 (~dionysus6@replaced-ip )
726 [07:59:45] *** Joins: s8548a (~s8548a@replaced-ip )
727 [07:59:54] *** Quits: mavhc (~mavhc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
728 [08:01:00] *** Joins: Sinewpy (~end@replaced-ip )
729 [08:02:11] *** Joins: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
730 [08:02:38] *** Joins: xdruppi (beaf7ea4@replaced-ip )
731 [08:04:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1364
732 [08:04:15] *** Quits: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip ) (Quit: a_l_b)
733 [08:04:27] <xdruppi> hi, can someone tell me if im gonna have
issues with debian due to hardware? i use amd a8-7650k cpu with
graphics, im new to linux, but i dont wanna go with ubuntu/mint, i
wanna use debian
734 [08:04:38] *** Joins: vivid (~ViViD@replaced-ip )
735 [08:04:54] *** Joins: colttt (~quassel@replaced-ip )
736 [08:06:30] *** Quits: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
737 [08:06:49] *** Quits: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
738 [08:07:06] *** Quits: emucla (~emucla@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
739 [08:08:44] *** Joins: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip )
740 [08:10:06] *** Joins: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip )
741 [08:10:51] *** Quits: ghost43 (~daer@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
742 [08:11:22] *** Quits: s__ (~s@replaced-ip ) (Quit: s__)
743 [08:11:33] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
744 [08:12:18] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
745 [08:12:42] *** Joins: ghost43 (~daer@replaced-ip )
746 [08:13:08] *** Quits: BenNZ (~Ben__@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Everytime I think IQ's must have dropped recently, I
remember that this is the internet)
747 [08:14:21] *** Joins: iderik (~weechat@replaced-ip )
748 [08:14:25] *** Joins: s__ (~s@replaced-ip )
749 [08:14:31] *** Joins: mavhc (~mavhc@replaced-ip )
750 [08:14:42] *** Joins: s8548a_ (~s8548a@replaced-ip )
751 [08:15:02] *** Quits: s__ (~s@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
752 [08:15:40] *** Quits: Espopore (~Espopore@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
753 [08:15:47] *** Joins: OS-42640 (~OS-42640@replaced-ip )
754 [08:15:49] *** Joins: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip )
755 [08:16:47] *** Joins: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip )
756 [08:17:00] *** Joins: s__ (~s@replaced-ip )
757 [08:17:11] *** Quits: OS-42640 (~OS-42640@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
758 [08:17:17] *** Quits: s__ (~s@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
759 [08:17:21] *** Quits: Messenger_bird (~banana@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
760 [08:18:03] *** Quits: s8548a (~s8548a@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
761 [08:18:06] *** Joins: Messenger_bird (~banana@replaced-ip )
762 [08:18:07] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
763 [08:19:15] *** Quits: azamet (cf946f5e@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
764 [08:19:51] *** Quits: xdruppi (beaf7ea4@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
765 [08:19:56] *** Quits: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
766 [08:19:56] *** Joins: s__ (~s@replaced-ip )
767 [08:20:07] *** Quits: s8548a_ (~s8548a@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
768 [08:20:32] *** Joins: pacbard (~pacbard@replaced-ip )
769 [08:20:34] *** Quits: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ukine)
770 [08:20:46] *** Quits: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
771 [08:21:24] *** Joins: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip )
772 [08:21:30] *** Quits: button (~crayon@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Quit)
773 [08:23:41] *** Joins: HerbY_NL2 (~HerbY_NL2@replaced-ip )
774 [08:24:03] *** Joins: crayon (~crayon@replaced-ip )
775 [08:24:36] *** Quits: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
776 [08:25:05] *** Joins: Christian75_ (~Christian@replaced-ip )
777 [08:25:16] *** Joins: vvor (~vvor@replaced-ip )
778 [08:26:22] *** Quits: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
779 [08:26:52] *** Quits: Christian75 (~Christian@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
780 [08:27:56] *** Quits: awal1 (~awal1@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
781 [08:28:35] *** Joins: pragomer (~pragomer@replaced-ip )
782 [08:28:35] *** Joins: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip )
783 [08:28:48] *** Joins: BCMM (~BCMM@replaced-ip )
784 [08:29:41] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
785 [08:30:25] *** Joins: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip )
786 [08:30:38] *** Joins: emucla (~emucla@replaced-ip )
787 [08:30:50] *** Joins: knidos (~knidos@replaced-ip )
788 [08:30:52] *** Quits: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
789 [08:31:03] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
790 [08:32:36] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
791 [08:32:45] *** Quits: Messenger_bird (~banana@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
792 [08:33:10] *** Joins: Messenger_bird (~banana@replaced-ip )
793 [08:33:50] *** Joins: leorat (~rat@replaced-ip )
794 [08:34:29] *** Quits: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip ) (Quit: a_l_b)
795 [08:36:21] *** Quits: Pef^ (~peter@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
796 [08:38:06] *** Quits: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
797 [08:38:35] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
798 [08:38:49] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip )
799 [08:39:51] *** Joins: OS-41888 (~OS-41888@replaced-ip )
800 [08:40:25] *** Joins: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip )
801 [08:41:30] *** Joins: chele (~chele@replaced-ip )
802 [08:42:58] *** Quits: internat (biteme2@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
803 [08:44:46] *** Joins: nibble_zero (~nibble_ze@replaced-ip )
804 [08:45:25] *** Quits: pragomer (~pragomer@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
805 [08:50:18] *** Quits: bmlzootown (~bmlzootow@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
806 [08:51:00] *** Joins: bmlzootown (~bmlzootow@replaced-ip )
807 [08:51:17] *** Joins: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip )
808 [08:51:42] *** Quits: daniel-s_ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
809 [08:52:38] *** Joins: pragomer (~pragomer@replaced-ip )
810 [08:53:25] *** Joins: Pandadub_Lostshi (~Barones@replaced-ip )
811 [08:53:32] *** Joins: Codier (~user@replaced-ip )
812 [08:53:44] *** Quits: ghost00 (ac6f882b@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
813 [08:53:56] *** Joins: beaver (~none@replaced-ip )
814 [08:54:03] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
815 [08:54:14] *** Joins: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip )
816 [08:56:50] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip )
817 [08:57:04] *** Quits: Barones (~Barones@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
818 [08:57:52] *** Joins: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip )
819 [08:58:36] *** Quits: NeoZed_ (~ursu@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
820 [08:58:57] *** Joins: jas4711 (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
821 [09:00:17] *** Quits: s__ (~s@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
822 [09:00:19] *** Joins: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip )
823 [09:00:49] *** Joins: monstar (~mitya@replaced-ip )
824 [09:01:04] *** Joins: super_gollum (~ich@replaced-ip )
825 [09:01:32] *** Joins: Elirips (~Elirips@replaced-ip )
826 [09:02:28] *** Joins: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip )
827 [09:02:54] *** Quits: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
828 [09:04:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1373
829 [09:05:07] *** Quits: styles (~styles@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
830 [09:05:10] *** Joins: emrullah (~emrullah@replaced-ip )
831 [09:05:15] *** Joins: tagomago (~tagomago@replaced-ip )
832 [09:05:16] *** Quits: HauM1 (~HauM1@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
833 [09:05:37] *** Joins: HauM1 (~HauM1@replaced-ip )
834 [09:08:08] *** Joins: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip )
835 [09:08:42] *** Joins: styles (~styles@replaced-ip )
836 [09:09:15] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
837 [09:09:31] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
838 [09:10:17] *** Joins: Herr (~Alf@replaced-ip )
839 [09:10:49] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
840 [09:10:55] *** Quits: Herr (~Alf@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
841 [09:11:40] *** Joins: daniel-s_ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip )
842 [09:11:54] *** Joins: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip )
843 [09:12:22] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
844 [09:12:38] *** Quits: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ledeni)
845 [09:13:17] *** Joins: AquaL1te (~AquaL1te@replaced-ip )
846 [09:14:41] *** Joins: RebelCoderRU (~RebelCode@replaced-ip )
847 [09:15:53] *** Quits: bnw (~bnw@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
848 [09:16:51] *** Quits: HugsWont1etgo (~HugsWontl@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
849 [09:17:02] *** Joins: sinaowolabi (~Sina@replaced-ip )
850 [09:17:48] *** Quits: pragomer (~pragomer@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
851 [09:17:51] *** Joins: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip )
852 [09:17:51] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
853 [09:18:07] *** Joins: diogenes_ (~diogenes_@replaced-ip )
854 [09:18:07] *** Joins: bnw (~bnw@replaced-ip )
855 [09:18:26] *** Quits: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
856 [09:19:01] *** Joins: ledeni (~ledeni@replaced-ip )
857 [09:19:17] *** Quits: m3ddle (~m3ddle@replaced-ip ) (Quit: m3ddle)
858 [09:20:16] *** Joins: buspirate (~none@replaced-ip )
859 [09:21:15] *** Joins: thunderrd (~thunderrd@replaced-ip )
860 [09:21:28] *** Quits: wireshark (~none@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
861 [09:22:34] *** Joins: brondif (~brondif@replaced-ip )
862 [09:22:35] *** Joins: InFerNo_ (~infy@replaced-ip )
863 [09:22:37] *** Joins: jmarsac (~jmarsac@replaced-ip )
864 [09:23:01] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
865 [09:23:17] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
866 [09:23:35] *** Joins: atler (~portal@replaced-ip )
867 [09:23:46] *** Joins: bvdk (~bvdkfreen@replaced-ip )
868 [09:23:47] *** Joins: Zta77 (~she@replaced-ip )
869 [09:23:58] *** Joins: HugsWontletgo (~HugsWontl@replaced-ip )
870 [09:24:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1388
871 [09:24:13] *** Quits: atler (~portal@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
872 [09:24:30] *** Quits: crimson_king (~crimson_k@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
873 [09:25:37] *** Joins: bapophis (~belethapo@replaced-ip )
874 [09:27:01] *** Joins: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip )
875 [09:27:46] *** Joins: Fox (~fox@replaced-ip )
876 [09:29:26] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
877 [09:30:42] *** Quits: bapophis (~belethapo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
878 [09:30:48] *** Quits: hakash_ (~hakash@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
879 [09:30:55] *** Quits: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
880 [09:31:18] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
881 [09:31:35] *** Quits: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip ) (Quit: iflema)
882 [09:32:36] *** Joins: tvm (~tvm@replaced-ip )
883 [09:32:54] *** Quits: diogenes_ (~diogenes_@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
884 [09:33:58] *** Joins: chgtg (~chgtg@replaced-ip )
885 [09:34:20] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
886 [09:35:07] *** Joins: drzacek (~drzacek@replaced-ip )
887 [09:35:58] <AquaL1te> sup! how can i see the update history
of a package in debian (without going to a quest in the log(rotated)
files)? i'm looking for something similar as in fedora; `dnf
history list unbound`.
888 [09:36:45] *** Joins: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip )
889 [09:37:25] *** Quits: chgtg (~chgtg@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
890 [09:37:26] *** Quits: siwica` (~user@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ERC (IRC client for Emacs 25.2.1))
891 [09:37:41] *** Joins: siwica (~user@replaced-ip )
892 [09:39:28] *** Joins: daniel-s__ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip )
893 [09:41:12] *** Quits: daniel-s_ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
894 [09:42:35] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
895 [09:43:53] *** Joins: sharp15 (~stop_look@replaced-ip )
896 [09:44:56] *** Joins: slv (~slv@replaced-ip )
897 [09:45:06] *** Joins: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip )
898 [09:45:43] <AquaL1te> or if there is an online overview
somewhere? this doesn't really tell me which version of unbound
i was running before upgrading to debian 9.6:
replaced-url
899 [09:47:17] *** Joins: SimpleIRC_K9zLT (~simpleirc@replaced-ip )
900 [09:47:23] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
901 [09:47:37] <sharp15> how much grief is involved in
dual-booting debian with Win10?
902 [09:47:39] *** Joins: diogenes_ (~diogenes_@replaced-ip )
903 [09:48:21] *** Quits: bvdk (~bvdkfreen@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
904 [09:48:33] *** Parts: virmin (~virmin@replaced-ip ) ()
905 [09:51:20] *** Joins: virmin (~virmin@replaced-ip )
906 [09:51:46] *** Quits: Freshnuts (Freshnuts@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
907 [09:51:53] *** Quits: slv (~slv@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
908 [09:51:56] *** Quits: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
909 [09:51:59] <m_g_lewis> sharp15: The Debian installer will
detect Windows 10 and create a grub boot loader to dual boot between
the two OSs...
910 [09:51:59] *** Quits: emrullah (~emrullah@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
911 [09:52:43] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
912 [09:52:49] *** Joins: msimpson (~msimpson@replaced-ip )
913 [09:52:54] <sharp15> m_g_lewis: even for a uefi machine? i
just had the network installer make a mess of an encrypted disk
earlier.
914 [09:53:07] <rudi_s> sharp15: Yes. It should work fine.
915 [09:53:31] <sharp15> ok. ty both. i'll give it a shot.
916 [09:53:51] *** Joins: whjeon (~whjeon@replaced-ip )
917 [09:54:25] *** Joins: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip )
918 [09:55:30] *** Joins: Freshnuts (Freshnuts@replaced-ip )
919 [09:55:38] <AquaL1te> i get the impression that debian
version history is something you can only get from the log files?
since no one seems to know a better way?
920 [09:55:47] *** Quits: lxsameer (~lxsameer@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
921 [09:56:57] *** Joins: NerdTheThird (~NerdTheTh@replaced-ip )
922 [09:58:28] *** Quits: nighty- (~nighty@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)
923 [09:59:13] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
924 [09:59:14] *** Joins: tymczenko (~tymczenko@replaced-ip )
925 [09:59:22] *** Quits: tymczenko (~tymczenko@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
926 [10:00:53] *** Quits: RebelCoderRU (~RebelCode@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
927 [10:01:12] *** Joins: tdn (~tdn@replaced-ip )
928 [10:02:04] *** Joins: _daniel-s__ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip )
929 [10:02:08] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
930 [10:02:34] *** Quits: orbiter (~orbiter@replaced-ip ) ()
931 [10:02:42] <m_g_lewis> AquaL1te: Check this out
replaced-url
932 [10:02:56] *** Quits: leorat (~rat@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leorat)
933 [10:02:56] *** Joins: bvdk (~bvdkfreen@replaced-ip )
934 [10:03:41] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
935 [10:03:58] <AquaL1te> m_g_lewis: check my message of 15
minutes ago :) i already stated that it doesn't give the info
i'm looking for. i want to know which version was in use before
debian 9.6 was introduced. but this takes too much time for
something simple, thanks for your help though!
936 [10:04:10] <AquaL1te> *version of unbound
937 [10:04:35] *** Joins: dilema (~dilema@replaced-ip )
938 [10:04:39] <m_g_lewis> No problem...
939 [10:04:54] *** Quits: daniel-s__ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
940 [10:07:48] *** Joins: jeddi (~jedd@replaced-ip )
941 [10:07:57] *** Joins: __marco (~mg3@replaced-ip )
942 [10:08:21] *** Joins: sjmulder (~sjmulder@replaced-ip )
943 [10:09:39] <sjmulder> hi all. I like writing little Unix
programs as a hobby and would like to have .debs for them. I
don't think they're worth a Debian maintainer's
attention; is it bad form to do it myself?
944 [10:11:16] <rudi_s> AquaL1te: snapshots.debian.org?
945 [10:11:36] *** Joins: h0 (~h0@replaced-ip )
946 [10:11:47] <rudi_s> sjmulder: No, of course not. I have many
custom Debian packages which I use to distribute my software among
my hosts.
947 [10:11:53] *** Joins: m0u (~m0u@replaced-ip )
948 [10:12:06] <rudi_s> It's also a great way to understand
how Debian packing works.
949 [10:12:33] <rudi_s> There are a few guides out there (new
maintainer guide is one IIRC) to get you started.
950 [10:12:40] <sjmulder> rudi_s: do you add the debian/ dir to
your software repos directly or do you keep some separate tree?
951 [10:13:02] *** Joins: [diablo] (~diablo]@replaced-ip )
952 [10:13:23] <sjmulder> I've read some of the guides and
many keep a clear distinction between upstream an downstream; I
wonder if that's necessary for my own little things
953 [10:14:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1395
954 [10:14:02] *** Joins: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip )
955 [10:14:50] *** Joins: tralala (~user@replaced-ip )
956 [10:14:55] <rudi_s> sjmulder: For my custom stuff it's a
mix. For the private stuff I mostly just add the debian/ directory
directly (and track it in the master branch in Git). For software I
publish I use a separate debian branch and I merge the changes in
and track the debian/ directory only in this branch.
957 [10:15:32] <rudi_s> I'd just do what's easier for
you. Even if somebody decides to package it for debian, they can
always prune your debian/ directory and ues the "offical"
one.
958 [10:15:43] <sjmulder> rudi_s: I hadn't thought of the
branch
959 [10:16:30] <dilema> Hi all, Debain lenny problem here,
I'm trying to apt-get update but i have expired keys. I run
apt-key list |grep expired and then apt-key adv --keyserver
keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys KEY, but nothing changes after another
apt-get update. How can I solve this?
replaced-url
960 [10:16:39] <rudi_s> But it makes the setup a little more
complicated (more merges, more switching branches). So it's not
always worth it IMHO.
961 [10:16:43] *** Joins: supercoven (~quassel@replaced-ip )
962 [10:17:08] <sjmulder> rudi_s: how about keeping a separate
'debs' repo? I have something similar for Homebrew and
RPMs already
963 [10:17:15] <sjmulder> suppose it complicates CI a little bit
964 [10:19:13] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
965 [10:19:15] <AquaL1te> rudi_s: what have snapshots to do with
my question?
966 [10:19:39] *** Quits: Zta77 (~she@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
967 [10:20:06] *** Joins: ruslan_m (rmstoi@replaced-ip )
968 [10:20:26] *** Quits: SimpleIRC_K9zLT (~simpleirc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Simple IRC: The quit option.)
969 [10:22:10] *** Joins: alexandros_c (~alexandro@replaced-ip )
970 [10:23:45] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
971 [10:24:21] *** Joins: Kevlar_Noir (~manjaro-u@replaced-ip )
972 [10:26:18] <sharp15> is it still recommended to avoid a swap
partition for SSD?
973 [10:27:28] *** Joins: hakash_ (~hakash@replaced-ip )
974 [10:27:41] *** Quits: patterson_ (patterson@replaced-ip ) ()
975 [10:27:46] <rudi_s> sjmulder: Makes it harder to track
everything. I'd put it in the same repository.
976 [10:27:57] <rudi_s> AquaL1te: You can figure out when which
package entered which debian release?
977 [10:28:27] <sjmulder> rudi_s: ok, thanks
978 [10:29:05] <rudi_s> np
979 [10:29:22] *** Joins: azamet_ (6c3df6c6@replaced-ip )
980 [10:30:07] <AquaL1te> rudi_s: sure, i can also unzip all my
apt log files and grep those for 'unbound', i'm just
looking for an easy way to do it. but it seems debian doesn't
have it
981 [10:30:54] *** Joins: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip )
982 [10:32:02] *** Quits: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
983 [10:32:05] <azamet_> i need a little help with hascat
984 [10:32:27] *** Quits: AimHere (~David@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
985 [10:32:42] <azamet_> i know there is one hero will help me
about hashcat command :D
986 [10:33:02] *** Joins: AimHere (~David@replaced-ip )
987 [10:33:08] <azamet_> i feel it :D
988 [10:33:33] <AquaL1te> azamet_: maybe better to try ##security
989 [10:34:18] <azamet_> i want to use the mass attack 8-10 chars
qwertyuopasdfghjklzxcvbnmQWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM1234567890 what
is the true command for that?
990 [10:34:58] *** Joins: monksam (~monksam@replaced-ip )
991 [10:35:08] <jelly> sounds like something reading the manual
would help with
992 [10:36:05] *** Joins: MichaelOF (~michael@replaced-ip )
993 [10:36:13] <azamet_> i already did but did not understand how
to mix them
994 [10:36:21] *** Quits: monstar (~mitya@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
995 [10:39:36] *** Quits: Maarten (~maarten@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
996 [10:39:45] <rabbitear_sdf> azamet_: what attack you like to
do?
997 [10:40:09] <rabbitear_sdf> azamet_: say it again.. but
explain it to me
998 [10:40:28] <azamet_> mass attack i already converted a cap
file and i want to use the mass attack 8-10 chars
qwertyuopasdfghjklzxcvbnmQWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM1234567890 to
that wifi file
999 [10:41:30] <Fox> azamet_: not sure this is some debian
related question
1000 [10:41:35] <rabbitear_sdf> azamet_: you are gonna have to
slow down, read more about who you are, and then ask the question
when you know more
1001 [10:42:06] <azamet_> debian or fuckian what is the different
i mean they are the same commands on hashcat man?
1002 [10:42:21] <rabbitear_sdf> azamet_: look
1003 [10:42:52] <rabbitear_sdf> azamet_: you don't make sense
and you sound like a drunk
1004 [10:42:58] *** Quits: Pandadub_Lostshi (~Barones@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1005 [10:43:01] *** Quits: tikun (~David@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1006 [10:43:10] <rabbitear_sdf> azamet_: go read more
1007 [10:43:13] <Fox> azamet_: this is #debian not
#icantreaddocsandaskanywhere :)
1008 [10:43:23] *** Quits: \\Mr_C\\ (mrc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: (Read error: Connection reset by beer))
1009 [10:44:00] <rabbitear_sdf> azamet_: sorry for your
troubles...
1010 [10:44:43] <azamet_> sorry that i blocked you
1011 [10:45:04] *** Quits: devz (~devz@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds))
1012 [10:45:38] *** Joins: devz (~devz@replaced-ip )
1013 [10:45:47] *** Parts: Kon- (~Leevancle@replaced-ip ) ()
1014 [10:46:08] *** Joins: nighty- (~nighty@replaced-ip )
1015 [10:46:26] *** Joins: franklyundead (~franklyun@replaced-ip )
1016 [10:46:46] *** Joins: sikun (~David@replaced-ip )
1017 [10:47:15] <jelly> azamet_: what did you try so far?
1018 [10:47:49] *** Quits: colo-work (~colo-work@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1019 [10:48:01] *** Joins: selroc (~selroc@replaced-ip )
1020 [10:48:28] *** Quits: selroc (~selroc@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1021 [10:48:39] *** Quits: devz (~devz@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1022 [10:48:49] <azamet_> i think i really need to install that
freenode application to add friends because in this chat only few
person i can find who really want to help other many people are
generally jackasses -.-
1023 [10:49:54] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
1024 [10:50:43] *** Quits: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1025 [10:50:47] *** Joins: JustASlacker (~JustASlac@replaced-ip )
1026 [10:50:52] *** Joins: devz (~devz@replaced-ip )
1027 [10:51:15] <jelly> azamet_: it's just silly ways to say
"there might be a better channel to ask your question" and
"don't waste volunteers' time, try to solve it
yourself first"
1028 [10:51:16] *** Quits: jas4711 (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1029 [10:51:24] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
1030 [10:52:47] *** Joins: colo-work (~colo-work@replaced-ip )
1031 [10:54:46] *** Joins: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip )
1032 [10:54:46] *** Quits: ukine (~ukine@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1033 [10:56:57] *** Quits: azamet_ (6c3df6c6@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1034 [10:59:18] *** Quits: jmarsac (~jmarsac@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1035 [11:01:36] *** Joins: stefanc_diff (~stefanc_d@replaced-ip )
1036 [11:02:56] *** Joins: fightthewalrus (~user@replaced-ip )
1037 [11:04:21] *** Joins: jubo2 (~juboxi@replaced-ip )
1038 [11:07:11] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
1039 [11:07:23] *** Quits: bnw (~bnw@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1040 [11:07:24] *** Quits: CaptainN (zelda@replaced-ip ) (Quit: I have to pee!)
1041 [11:08:40] *** Joins: jas4711 (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
1042 [11:08:42] *** Joins: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip )
1043 [11:08:56] *** Quits: franklyundead (~franklyun@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1044 [11:09:04] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1045 [11:09:22] *** Joins: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip )
1046 [11:09:32] *** Joins: RebelCoderRU (~RebelCode@replaced-ip )
1047 [11:10:06] *** Quits: brondif (~brondif@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1048 [11:11:43] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
1049 [11:13:57] *** Quits: sikun (~David@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1050 [11:14:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1401
1051 [11:14:17] *** Joins: sikun (~David@replaced-ip )
1052 [11:15:10] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
1053 [11:16:26] *** Quits: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1054 [11:16:35] *** Joins: lupulo (~javier@replaced-ip )
1055 [11:16:56] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1056 [11:17:09] *** Quits: electro33 (uid613@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1057 [11:19:11] *** Joins: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip )
1058 [11:19:24] *** Joins: encod3 (~encod3@replaced-ip )
1059 [11:19:37] *** dexta_ is now known as dexta
1060 [11:19:49] *** Quits: lupulo (~javier@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1061 [11:19:57] *** Joins: eamanu (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1062 [11:20:27] *** Joins: Slashman (~Slash@replaced-ip )
1063 [11:20:33] *** Quits: eamanu (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1064 [11:20:46] *** Quits: sikun (~David@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1065 [11:22:04] *** Joins: jmarsac (~jmarsac@replaced-ip )
1066 [11:22:04] *** Joins: pragomer (~pragomer@replaced-ip )
1067 [11:23:16] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1068 [11:23:36] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1069 [11:24:40] *** Quits: RebelCoderRU (~RebelCode@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1070 [11:25:59] *** Joins: Neo_Chen (~Neo_Chen@replaced-ip )
1071 [11:26:45] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1072 [11:27:37] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
1073 [11:28:16] *** Quits: Freshnuts (Freshnuts@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1074 [11:30:04] <sharp15> on the win10 dual boot. do i still need
to resize the existing partitions from windows?
1075 [11:33:31] <rabbitear_sdf> sharp15: there should need to be
space for a new os.
1076 [11:33:38] *** Joins: ihammers (~ihammers@replaced-ip )
1077 [11:36:08] *** Joins: traveltissues (~traveltis@replaced-ip )
1078 [11:39:27] *** Joins: lucad111 (~lucad111@replaced-ip )
1079 [11:39:27] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1080 [11:43:47] *** Quits: diogenes_ (~diogenes_@replaced-ip ) (Quit: vergissmeinnicht)
1081 [11:45:42] *** Joins: whjeon_ (~whjeon@replaced-ip )
1082 [11:46:09] *** Quits: whjeon_ (~whjeon@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1083 [11:47:34] <BCMM> sharp15: ntfs resize from linux is pretty
safe now
1084 [11:47:46] <BCMM> (but don't ever resize partitions, on
any platform, without making backups)
1085 [11:48:09] *** Quits: nibble_zero (~nibble_ze@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nibble_zero)
1086 [11:48:15] *** Quits: mito__ (~mito@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1087 [11:48:28] *** Quits: mito_ (~mito@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1088 [11:49:00] <sharp15> it is a brand new machine. i'll
make the OEM reinstall usb stick first. unless it has to be optical
then i'll be a few days before i try.
1089 [11:49:54] *** Quits: watchcat (~un@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1090 [11:50:01] *** Joins: soee (~soee@replaced-ip )
1091 [11:50:07] *** Joins: lupulo (~javier@replaced-ip )
1092 [11:50:12] <rabbitear_sdf> nothing needs to be optical....
1093 [11:50:56] <sharp15> rabbitear_sdf: i agree. but past history
tells me that others do not.
1094 [11:51:00] *** Joins: jarfr (~jarfr@replaced-ip )
1095 [11:51:27] *** Joins: dkmueller (~dkmueller@replaced-ip )
1096 [11:51:43] <rabbitear_sdf> sharp15: I believe in the resize
of most installs these days, but yes, do make a restorable backup
... you 'probably won't' use it
1097 [11:52:28] <sharp15> hehe.
1098 [11:52:38] *** Joins: uNmowed (~Kaede@replaced-ip )
1099 [11:52:48] <rabbitear_sdf> linux installs... its too general,
but point is, modern installers are very good.
1100 [11:53:46] *** Quits: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ROCK OUT with your COCK OUT)
1101 [11:53:50] *** Quits: semeion (~semeion@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)
1102 [11:54:23] *** Joins: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip )
1103 [11:54:25] *** Quits: soee (~soee@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1104 [11:54:45] <rabbitear_sdf> sharp15: its also true that you do
not see many dual boots these days... people just get rid of what
the old, and put in the new...
1105 [11:55:16] *** Joins: Antares268 (~Antares26@replaced-ip )
1106 [11:55:31] *** Joins: Scorpion2185 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1107 [11:55:36] <sharp15> i have a brother printer that causes
some annoyance with the drivers. still not sure what that will do.
1108 [11:55:54] <sharp15> i still can't install the driver on
my gentoo box.
1109 [11:56:02] *** Joins: The_Loko (~The_Loko@replaced-ip )
1110 [11:56:11] <rabbitear_sdf> sharp15: so in cups, you look for
ppd's
1111 [11:56:26] <rabbitear_sdf> sharp15: got that?
1112 [11:56:38] <sharp15> rabbitear_sdf: not that simple. it comes
with some sort of codec binary.
1113 [11:56:40] *** Joins: s8548a (~s8548a@replaced-ip )
1114 [11:56:43] *** Joins: nibble_zero (~nibble_ze@replaced-ip )
1115 [11:56:55] *** Joins: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip )
1116 [11:57:16] <rabbitear_sdf> sharp15: gentoo, .... has
ppd's somewhere, but usually modern <- lol distro's
will already have all the ppds inside
1117 [11:58:18] <Scorpion2185> Hello, i have a big problem with
dpkg
1118 [11:58:46] <rabbitear_sdf> sharp15: yeah, if you're
doing it that way, you end up trying alot ... but usually there are
a couple of options for each printer
1119 [12:00:01] <at0m> dpkg: tell Scorpion2185 about ask
1120 [12:00:08] <rabbitear_sdf> sharp15: I hope people don't
stop trying, because it doesn't work at first...
1121 [12:00:13] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1122 [12:00:22] *** Joins: nehemiah (~nehemiah@replaced-ip )
1123 [12:00:22] *** Joins: franklyundead (~franklyun@replaced-ip )
1124 [12:00:23] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
1125 [12:00:31] <Scorpion2185>
replaced-url
1126 [12:00:36] *** Quits: lankanmon (~LKNnet@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Left...)
1127 [12:00:41] *** Quits: Messenger_bird (~banana@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1128 [12:00:47] <Scorpion2185> there there is my question about
that
1129 [12:01:07] <rabbitear_sdf> Scorpion2185: no summery for here?
1130 [12:01:50] <Scorpion2185> rabbitear_sdf: do you want an
explanation here?
1131 [12:01:52] <BCMM> rabbitear_sdf: i sent him here, from
##linux. tl;dr: he had an error message, so he deleted a bunch of
stuff from /var/lib/dpkg/status, and now apt doesn't work
1132 [12:01:53] <rabbitear_sdf> Scorpion2185: you should probably
let them answer you then
1133 [12:02:20] <rabbitear_sdf> oh
1134 [12:02:36] <BCMM> Scorpion2185: you might be able to salvage
things with a copy of dpkg/status from /var/backups
1135 [12:02:51] <Scorpion2185> rabbitear_sdf: if I found some
solutino i will add it to the question
1136 [12:02:56] <rabbitear_sdf> what is dpkg/status for ?
1137 [12:03:09] <BCMM> rabbitear_sdf: for dpkg to remember
basically everything it knows
1138 [12:03:29] <rabbitear_sdf> and then, what does dpkg know?
1139 [12:03:36] <Scorpion2185> BCMM: i edited the file many times
1140 [12:03:50] <BCMM> Scorpion2185: it sounds like you've
run a bunch of apt commands since modifying the file, so i suspect
you'll just have to clean install, but i thought it might be
worth seeing if anybody in here can think of a way to fix it
1141 [12:04:00] <BCMM> rabbitear_sdf: what packages are currently
installed on the system, for instance
1142 [12:04:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1407
1143 [12:04:12] <Scorpion2185> is there some hard reset?
1144 [12:04:19] <rabbitear_sdf> hmmmmmm
1145 [12:04:21] <Scorpion2185> of dpkg
1146 [12:04:37] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip )
1147 [12:04:47] <BCMM> Scorpion2185: well, what would that
actually mean?
1148 [12:04:56] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1149 [12:05:15] <BCMM> afaik the answer is no. that was the
primary source of information on installed packages, and now
it's not right
1150 [12:05:34] *** Joins: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
1151 [12:05:39] <Scorpion2185> BCMM: somehow reinstall/reset dpkg
that will check from 0 all apt
1152 [12:05:46] <BCMM> the information that would be required to
rebuild it probably does not exist
1153 [12:05:47] *** Joins: yogurt2ungue (~yogur2@replaced-ip )
1154 [12:05:48] <rabbitear_sdf> Scorpion2185 and BCMM, nope,
that's not the why
1155 [12:05:57] *** Quits: The_Loko (~The_Loko@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1156 [12:05:58] *** Quits: Sveta (~sveta@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1157 [12:06:05] <rabbitear_sdf> you can touch the file if you want
1158 [12:06:24] *** Quits: jetchisel (~jetchisel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1159 [12:06:27] <sharp15> rabbitear_sdf: i'll try.
1160 [12:06:43] *** Joins: The_Loko (~The_Loko@replaced-ip )
1161 [12:07:11] *** Parts: shynoob (~shy.noob@253.ip-66-70-188.net)
("Leaving")
1162 [12:07:28] <rabbitear_sdf> Scorpion2185: I could simply run
'apt update'
1163 [12:07:33] <BCMM> rabbitear_sdf: that it isn't why
*what*, exactly?
1164 [12:07:50] <rabbitear_sdf> what?
1165 [12:08:03] *** Quits: BeerHall (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: BeerHall)
1166 [12:08:06] <BCMM> rabbitear_sdf: what did you mean by
"that's not the why"?
1167 [12:08:14] <rabbitear_sdf> that file doesn't need to be
there to do any dpkg
1168 [12:08:27] <rabbitear_sdf> you should run 'apt
update' and look at that
1169 [12:08:43] *** Joins: glaucom (~blackcat@replaced-ip )
1170 [12:08:53] <Scorpion2185> any apt/dpkg cmd get many dpkg
errors
1171 [12:09:06] <Scorpion2185> output in the question
1172 [12:09:18] <BCMM> rabbitear_sdf: it seems very likely, to me,
that there is some connection between "x depends on y however y
is not installed", and dpkg having forgotten that certain
packages are installed
1173 [12:09:30] <rabbitear_sdf> well, whatever, keep on going if
you want to, but all you need to do is run 'sudo apt
update'
1174 [12:09:41] <Scorpion2185> i can' t use apt at all...
1175 [12:10:01] *** Quits: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ouch... that hurt)
1176 [12:10:05] <rabbitear_sdf> Scorpion2185: because?
1177 [12:10:06] <BCMM> rabbitear_sdf: could i ask for a source for
the claims you're making?
1178 [12:10:14] <rabbitear_sdf> stop it
1179 [12:10:15] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1180 [12:10:23] <rabbitear_sdf> run the freakin command already
1181 [12:10:24] <Scorpion2185>
replaced-url
1182 [12:10:26] *** Quits: sjmulder (~sjmulder@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1183 [12:10:29] <rabbitear_sdf> and say what it says
1184 [12:10:32] *** Joins: amcorreia (~amcorreia@replaced-ip )
1185 [12:10:44] <rabbitear_sdf> Scorpion2185: look, we don't
speak about http all the time
1186 [12:10:48] <BCMM> rabbitear_sdf: because, based on the dpkg
man page, that file *does* contain irreplaceable information about
the configuration of the system
1187 [12:10:54] <rabbitear_sdf> Scorpion2185: you just gonna have
to learn to communicate
1188 [12:10:57] *** Joins: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip )
1189 [12:11:02] *** Joins: dselect (~dselect@replaced-ip )
1190 [12:11:18] <rabbitear_sdf> I'm about to go, you guys do
whatever
1191 [12:11:20] <Scorpion2185> rabbitear_sdf: you should learn to
read
1192 [12:11:29] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
1193 [12:11:34] <rabbitear_sdf> nob
1194 [12:12:11] <Scorpion2185> BCMM: best way to permorm a clean
install?
1195 [12:12:14] <Scorpion2185> perform
1196 [12:12:27] <glaucom> any help install dependence for
lightworks and debian 9 strech
1197 [12:12:28] <glaucom> ?
1198 [12:12:29] *** Joins: aielima (~aielima@replaced-ip )
1199 [12:12:37] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
1200 [12:13:05] <rabbitear_sdf> Scorpion2185: seriously, only run
apt update
1201 [12:13:27] <rabbitear_sdf> Scorpion2185: this dude here BCMM,
your friend is just leading you around the internet
1202 [12:13:28] <BCMM> Scorpion2185: try apt update if you want,
it's not going to make things any worse
1203 [12:13:50] <rabbitear_sdf> I'm going to
BED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1204 [12:14:03] <BCMM> rabbitear_sdf hasn't explained why he
thinks it will help, but he might know something i don't know
1205 [12:15:00] <Scorpion2185> I' m not familiar with
lightworks
1206 [12:15:00] <Scorpion2185> what is the problem?
1207 [12:15:23] <Scorpion2185> rabbitear_sdf: I RAN IT MAN
1208 [12:15:33] <Scorpion2185> rabbitear_sdf: I CAN' T USE
ANY APT AT ALL
1209 [12:15:34] *** Quits: MichaelOF (~michael@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
1210 [12:16:10] <rabbitear_sdf>
replaced-url
1211 [12:16:11] <Fox> Scorpion2185: can you paste the exact output
of the command somewhere ?
1212 [12:16:15] <rabbitear_sdf> and stop crying
1213 [12:16:38] <BCMM> Scorpion2185: there's only really one
way to do a clean install... you install debian again, from a dvd or
usb stick. like you did the first time. make copies of files you
want to keep first.
1214 [12:17:04] <Scorpion2185> Fox: I sure can but all the erros
are those of my questiom, so is really necessary?
1215 [12:17:07] <Scorpion2185>
replaced-url
1216 [12:17:21] *** Joins: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip )
1217 [12:17:57] *** Quits: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1218 [12:18:34] <Scorpion2185> maybe i should fill a bug
1219 [12:18:50] <Fox> Scorpion2185: can you grep
"remove" in /var/log/dpkg.log ?
1220 [12:19:50] <glaucom> lightworks depende de libjpeg8 (>=
8c); porém:
1221 [12:19:56] <glaucom> Pacote libpango1.0-0 não
está instalado.
1222 [12:20:04] <BCMM> glaucom: are you using the .deb from their
website?
1223 [12:20:05] <rabbitear_sdf> plus is the drive full, bla bla
blah
1224 [12:20:08] <glaucom> and more two others
1225 [12:20:34] <rabbitear_sdf> BCMM: most people can't view
what you think..
1226 [12:20:40] *** Quits: fightthewalrus (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1227 [12:21:09] <BCMM> rabbitear_sdf: frankly, you've stopped
making sense. round about when you posted the lfs link.
1228 [12:21:15] *** Joins: Mazhive_one (~Mazhive@replaced-ip )
1229 [12:21:27] <rabbitear_sdf> thanks
1230 [12:21:31] <rabbitear_sdf> and good.
1231 [12:21:35] <rabbitear_sdf> nite.
1232 [12:22:29] <Scorpion2185> Fox: yes i will add it to tghe
question ok?
1233 [12:22:39] *** Quits: Mazhive (~Mazhive@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1234 [12:22:44] <Fox> as you like
1235 [12:22:51] *** Quits: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1236 [12:23:39] *** Quits: dkmueller (~dkmueller@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1237 [12:23:44] *** Joins: krabador (~krabador@replaced-ip )
1238 [12:23:50] *** Quits: pragomer (~pragomer@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1239 [12:25:30] *** Quits: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ROCK OUT with your COCK OUT)
1240 [12:25:52] <Scorpion2185> Fox: I did it
1241 [12:26:14] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nix64bit)
1242 [12:26:16] <Fox> wowo, that's a lot, just using
autoremove ?
1243 [12:27:14] *** Joins: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip )
1244 [12:27:22] <Scorpion2185> after autoremove i tried to remove
some problematic packages
1245 [12:27:26] <themill> Scorpion2185: I think the only sensible
action here is to restore one of the non-broken
/var/backups/dpkg.status.N back to /var/lib/dpkg/status
1246 [12:27:27] <Fox> you say you did an apt update, I can't
see it on stackexchange, only "apt upgrade"
1247 [12:27:45] <Scorpion2185> themill: and after?
1248 [12:27:53] *** Joins: Barones (~Barones@replaced-ip )
1249 [12:27:56] *** Joins: jarlaxl (~blt@replaced-ip )
1250 [12:27:56] <sharp15> i'm using lxde on one machine and
closing the lid puts it into suspend/sleep/hibernate. how do i
disable this?
1251 [12:27:57] <themill> "aptitude reinstall ~i"
1252 [12:28:24] <themill> you may need to add or remove some
packages first.
1253 [12:28:40] <themill> Fundamentally, however, you can't
just fix things by breaking apt and dpkg.
1254 [12:29:02] <Scorpion2185> Fox: yes but i also tried that it
takes like 3 hours some problem to kernel packages and the broke
again
1255 [12:29:28] <lupulo> Scorpion2185, it doesn't happen from
several years ago, what type of package do you have removed?
1256 [12:29:46] <Scorpion2185> themill: the file is dpkg.status.o?
or the .gz
1257 [12:30:01] <themill> Scorpion2185: a non-broken one from
before you broke things.
1258 [12:30:22] <Scorpion2185> themill: apt autoremove broke
things
1259 [12:30:25] <themill> no
1260 [12:30:36] <Barones> Hi, I'm trying to use debian
buster/testing but after apt upgrade I'm getting the following
error:
replaced-url
1261 [12:30:37] <themill> apt autoremove did not start editing the
status file.
1262 [12:30:40] <Scorpion2185> themill: yes that s why i manually
edited the file
1263 [12:30:43] <themill> no
1264 [12:31:00] <BCMM> themill: Scorpion2185 has previously said
that the file has been edited many times, so there may not be a
clean, up-to-date version in backups
1265 [12:31:12] <themill> BCMM: eek
1266 [12:31:14] <sharp15> nm. it doesn't seem to be doing it
today.
1267 [12:31:18] <themill> Scorpion2185: reinstall that box and
stop breaking things
1268 [12:31:25] <Scorpion2185> yes i edited many times to remove
all problematic packages
1269 [12:31:28] <BCMM> themill++
1270 [12:31:33] <themill> Scorpion2185: there's no such thing
1271 [12:31:46] <BCMM> Scorpion2185: that does not remove
packages!
1272 [12:31:48] <themill> Barones: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net is
a better place to ask
1273 [12:31:54] <Scorpion2185> lupulo: autoremoe removed some
python packages
1274 [12:31:55] <BCMM> Scorpion2185: that just makes dpkg forget
they are installed
1275 [12:31:58] <Barones> thanks themill
1276 [12:32:17] <lupulo> Scorpion2185, python has its self
autoremove
1277 [12:32:21] <BCMM> there is a way to cleanly uninstall
packages, and that isn't it
1278 [12:32:29] <Barones> tried to join but it says this channel
is invite only themill
1279 [12:32:35] <themill> !#debian-next
1280 [12:32:35] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
1281 [12:32:36] <BCMM> Barones: wrong network
1282 [12:32:47] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip )
1283 [12:32:54] <Scorpion2185> lupulo: i ran apt autoremove
1284 [12:33:00] <Barones> ohh, thanks
1285 [12:33:01] *** Joins: shayanthethief (~shayanthe@replaced-ip )
1286 [12:33:01] *** Joins: Messenger_bird (~banana@replaced-ip )
1287 [12:33:16] *** Joins: \\Mr_C\\ (mrc@replaced-ip )
1288 [12:33:21] <BCMM> Barones: basically oftc is debian's
official irc network. this channel and -offtopic are the only
channels on freenode i'm aware of
1289 [12:33:37] *** Quits: buddhirt (~buddhirt@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1290 [12:34:44] *** Joins: buddhirt (~buddhirt@replaced-ip )
1291 [12:34:56] <shayanthethief> hi there, what's the most
stable nvidia proprietary driver for debian 9.6?
1292 [12:35:08] <at0m> BCMM: and some -$language channels
1293 [12:35:40] <Scorpion2185> themill: i wish so but there is
1294 [12:36:07] <rabbitear_sdf> Scorpion2185: next time use
'virtualenv' for your project.... g/n
1295 [12:36:17] *** Quits: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1296 [12:36:32] <BCMM> shayanthethief: really depends on your
card, and probably on luck. but the best bet is probably the one
that you get in the standard `nvidia-driver` package
1297 [12:36:45] *** Quits: milkt (~debian@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1298 [12:37:06] *** Joins: milkt (~debian@replaced-ip )
1299 [12:37:16] <glaucom> BCMM: lightworks no exists in debian 9
strech packages
1300 [12:37:16] <at0m> shayanthethief: before you install an
nvidia driver, let nvidia-detect tell you /which/ to install
1301 [12:37:31] <shayanthethief> how is that done?
1302 [12:37:36] <BCMM> glaucom: right, it's not in debian
repos. i was asking where you downloaded it from.
1303 [12:37:52] <at0m> glaucom: lightworks does not exist on
debian. i asked you where you got it from, yesterday, too
1304 [12:37:57] <Scorpion2185> rabbitear_sdf: virtual env?
1305 [12:38:03] <rabbitear_sdf> BCMM: its very toxic to
Scorpion2185 to know everything, again nite
1306 [12:38:08] <glaucom>
replaced-url
1307 [12:38:15] <BCMM> rabbitear_sdf: i still don't know what
you're trying to say
1308 [12:38:48] <BCMM> glaucom: there's a .deb package on
their website, intended for ubuntu. some people on forums say
they've got it working on debian, by installing dependancies
from other debian releases. it's kind of a messy approach,
though.
1309 [12:39:07] <shayanthethief> I'm gonna try some old
driver from 370-380
1310 [12:39:26] <BCMM> shayanthethief: have you looked at
replaced-url
1311 [12:39:45] <Scorpion2185> later!
1312 [12:39:48] *** Quits: Scorpion2185 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1313 [12:40:04] *** Joins: monstar (~mitya@replaced-ip )
1314 [12:40:12] <BCMM> shayanthethief: unless you have a really
old card, you probably want to do this
replaced-url
1315 [12:40:21] *** Joins: Mathisen (~Mathisen@replaced-ip )
1316 [12:40:32] *** Quits: Mathisen (~Mathisen@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1317 [12:40:32] *** Joins: Mathisen (~Mathisen@replaced-ip )
1318 [12:40:33] <shayanthethief> BCMM oh nice, thanks m8
1319 [12:40:34] <glaucom> Got it. thank you.
1320 [12:41:13] <glaucom> About Nvidia driver. I gave up
installing on debian 9 strech. All of the procedures the gdm3
displays on an error screen something went wrong. :(
1321 [12:41:45] <glaucom> I have a hybrid card in my notebook.
intel hd graphics and gforce 740 m
1322 [12:41:48] <BCMM> shayanthethief: 375.66 seems to be the
default version in stretch. you can get a newer version from
backports if you really want, but i would generally trust that the
default version in debian stable is, well, stable
1323 [12:42:21] <at0m> glaucom:
replaced-url
1324 [12:42:22] <shayanthethief> yeah i was thinking the same
1325 [12:43:15] *** Quits: hassoon[work] (hassoon@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1326 [12:43:15] *** Joins: hassoon[work] (hassoon@replaced-ip )
1327 [12:43:15] *** Quits: hassoon[work] (hassoon@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1328 [12:43:15] *** Joins: hassoon[work] (hassoon@replaced-ip )
1329 [12:43:26] <glaucom> it was through these same procedures
that I did. at0m
1330 [12:43:31] <Barones> glaucom, I had the same issue, and I
have the same card
1331 [12:43:54] <glaucom>
root@desktop-bb0q7t0:/home/blackcat/Downloads# lspci | grep 3D
1332 [12:43:54] <glaucom> 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA
Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 740M] (rev a1)
1333 [12:43:57] *** Joins: liske1 (~liske1@replaced-ip )
1334 [12:44:09] <Barones> just installed nvidia-340
1335 [12:44:09] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1336 [12:44:14] <Barones> use nvidia-detect
1337 [12:45:00] <glaucom> Debian 9 strech Barones?
1338 [12:45:09] *** Joins: pzn (~pzn@replaced-ip )
1339 [12:45:11] <Barones> yes
1340 [12:45:22] <glaucom> k. you can help me in private w
1341 [12:45:23] <glaucom> ?
1342 [12:45:25] *** Joins: necrose99 (~necrose99@replaced-ip )
1343 [12:45:35] *** Quits: necrose99 (~necrose99@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1344 [12:45:35] *** Joins: necrose99 (~necrose99@replaced-ip )
1345 [12:45:42] <Barones> I followed debian-wiki
1346 [12:45:45] <Barones> ok, call me
1347 [12:45:52] *** Quits: m0u (~m0u@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1348 [12:46:16] *** Joins: Harvey-Pwca (~HarveyPwc@replaced-ip )
1349 [12:46:42] *** Joins: necrose99_ (~necrose99@replaced-ip )
1350 [12:47:46] *** Quits: necrose99_ (~necrose99@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1351 [12:47:46] *** Joins: necrose99_ (~necrose99@replaced-ip )
1352 [12:47:50] *** Joins: sphenxes (~sphenxe@replaced-ip )
1353 [12:47:51] *** Quits: sphenxes (~sphenxe@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
1354 [12:48:11] *** Quits: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1355 [12:48:15] *** Joins: sphenxes (~sphenxe@replaced-ip )
1356 [12:48:48] *** Quits: buddhirt (~buddhirt@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1357 [12:49:27] *** Joins: necrose99b (~necrose99@replaced-ip )
1358 [12:51:04] *** Quits: necrose99 (~necrose99@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1359 [12:53:28] *** Quits: necrose99_ (~necrose99@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1360 [12:53:57] *** Joins: jetchisel (~jetchisel@replaced-ip )
1361 [12:54:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1414
1362 [12:54:12] *** Joins: case__ (3eceedd2@replaced-ip )
1363 [12:54:23] *** Quits: shayanthethief (~shayanthe@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1364 [12:54:32] *** Joins: paulgrmn (~paulgrmn@replaced-ip )
1365 [12:57:28] *** Quits: Nexilva (~Nexilva@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1366 [12:57:28] *** Joins: converge (~converge@replaced-ip )
1367 [12:57:54] *** Joins: necrose99_ (~necrose99@replaced-ip )
1368 [12:58:07] *** Quits: glaucom (~blackcat@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
1369 [12:58:09] <converge> Sometimes when I do apt-get upgrade it
pops up a msg '403 forbidden' and something telling me to
use --fix-missing, is there a way to fix it ?
1370 [12:58:39] *** Quits: alexandros_c (~alexandro@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1371 [12:59:28] *** Joins: zeden (~user@replaced-ip )
1372 [13:00:30] *** Joins: glaucom (bd142ce2@replaced-ip )
1373 [13:00:34] <glaucom> deu merda kkk
1374 [13:00:50] *** Quits: sphenxes (~sphenxe@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1375 [13:01:02] *** Joins: CyberManifest (~CyberMani@replaced-ip )
1376 [13:01:38] <converge> glaucom, quanta classe! :D
1377 [13:01:51] *** Quits: necrose99b (~necrose99@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1378 [13:01:58] <glaucom> uhauhau essa tela branca do gdm de algo
deu errado kkk
1379 [13:02:49] *** Joins: monstar_ (~mitya@replaced-ip )
1380 [13:03:21] *** Quits: necrose99_ (~necrose99@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1381 [13:03:52] <Barones> deu errado glaucom ?
1382 [13:03:58] <BCMM> converge: it sounds like a bad mirror
1383 [13:04:10] *** Joins: lankanmon (~LKNnet@replaced-ip )
1384 [13:04:13] *** Quits: jmarsac (~jmarsac@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1385 [13:04:30] <converge> BCMM, thanks, Im updating it now to a
new one
1386 [13:04:46] <themill> converge: deb.debian.org might make a
better option
1387 [13:05:01] <BCMM> converge: i.e. one of the sources in
/etc/apt/sources.list points to a server that doesn't work any
more. you don't use skype, do you?
1388 [13:05:02] *** Quits: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip ) (Quit: buh bye!)
1389 [13:05:08] *** Joins: tmm88 (~tmm88@replaced-ip )
1390 [13:05:18] *** Joins: dpkg (~dpkg@replaced-ip )
1391 [13:05:38] <BCMM> i seem to recall some issues with their
repo
1392 [13:05:57] *** Joins: bites (~bites@replaced-ip )
1393 [13:05:58] *** Joins: Dyl0n (~Dyl0n@replaced-ip )
1394 [13:06:04] <converge> BCMM, I don't use Skype often..
why ?
1395 [13:06:24] <BCMM> converge: they use an additional repo for
updates, and that repo has had problems in the past
1396 [13:06:27] *** Quits: monstar (~mitya@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1397 [13:06:28] *** Quits: tmm88 (~tmm88@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1398 [13:06:28] *** Joins: tmm88 (~tmm88@replaced-ip )
1399 [13:06:28] <converge> themill, I changed it to another
Brazilian mirror, same issue, I'll follow your suggestion
1400 [13:06:34] *** Quits: craysiii_ (sid205503@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
1401 [13:06:54] *** Quits: glaucom (bd142ce2@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1402 [13:07:05] *** Joins: matthelmke (~matthelmk@replaced-ip )
1403 [13:07:17] <BCMM> converge: you have run apt-get update
recently, right?
1404 [13:07:30] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1405 [13:07:31] <converge> BCMM, yes.. always
1406 [13:07:35] *** Quits: tsglove (~tsglove@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1407 [13:07:52] *** Joins: glaucom (bd142ce2@replaced-ip )
1408 [13:07:58] <BCMM> converge: can you pastebin the error, so we
can see exactly what is 403?
1409 [13:07:59] *** Quits: Dyl0n (~Dyl0n@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1410 [13:08:22] <BCMM> if you have third-party sources, like
chrome or skype, it might not be your debian mirror that's the
problem
1411 [13:08:34] <glaucom> lol
1412 [13:08:39] <glaucom> :(
1413 [13:09:09] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
1414 [13:09:23] <converge> There is something wrong.. sounds like
a connection issue, I get 403 even after update it to
deb.debian.org, I'll paste it
1415 [13:10:09] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1416 [13:10:22] *** Quits: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ROCK OUT with your COCK OUT)
1417 [13:10:48] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1418 [13:11:10] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip )
1419 [13:11:32] <converge> BCMM,
replaced-url
1420 [13:11:57] *** Quits: encod3 (~encod3@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1421 [13:12:29] *** Joins: encod3 (~encod3@replaced-ip )
1422 [13:12:42] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
1423 [13:13:23] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
1424 [13:15:21] <BCMM> converge: assuming your internet
connections works OK otherwise, it sounds like there might actually
be a bad mirror in the debian geomirror list...
1425 [13:15:49] *** Joins: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip )
1426 [13:16:08] <RoyK> BCMM: probably not the first time ;)
1427 [13:16:33] *** Joins: rant (~user@replaced-ip )
1428 [13:16:39] *** Joins: tsglove (~tsglove@replaced-ip )
1429 [13:16:44] *** Joins: Brigo_ (~Brigo@replaced-ip )
1430 [13:18:02] *** Quits: encod3 (~encod3@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
1431 [13:18:28] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1432 [13:18:47] <BCMM> converge: before, were you using
deb.debian.net or a local mirror?
1433 [13:18:49] <themill> seems to work fine here
1434 [13:19:01] *** Quits: jarfr (~jarfr@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1435 [13:19:01] <BCMM> themill: are you in brazil?
1436 [13:19:13] <themill> no, talking to the same mirror as that
one
1437 [13:19:26] <BCMM> themill: as which? the github gist?
1438 [13:19:42] <themill> 151.101.92.204 (fastly)
1439 [13:19:48] <converge> Before the current mirror I was using
the mirror set on line 2 and 3 here
replaced-url
1440 [13:19:51] *** Quits: Barones (~Barones@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1441 [13:20:02] <converge> BCMM, Im in Brazil
1442 [13:20:04] <BCMM> themill: ah! how can you explicitly request
a particular fastly server?
1443 [13:20:21] <themill> wget --header='Host:
deb.debian.org'
replaced-url
1444 [13:20:40] <themill> (there's probably a much nicer way
of doing that)
1445 [13:20:40] <BCMM> themill: oh, right. i was overthinking it,
trying to do it in firefox. thanks!
1446 [13:21:11] *** Quits: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ROCK OUT with your COCK OUT)
1447 [13:21:13] <BCMM> converge: yeah, it sounds like somebody is
playing games with your internet connection... what sort of
connection do you have? are you at a university?
1448 [13:21:25] <BCMM> or some other kind of institution that
might have a transparent http proxy?
1449 [13:21:38] <converge> themill, wget output is: HTTP request
sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
1450 [13:21:50] *** Joins: deadz0 (~deadz0@replaced-ip )
1451 [13:21:59] <converge> BCMM, it's a common optical fiber
connection
1452 [13:22:14] <BCMM> converge: thing is, that works fine for me
(and themill), so it's not the server that's the problem
1453 [13:22:27] <BCMM> and if you were also getting 403 from a
*different* server...
1454 [13:22:33] <themill> yeah
1455 [13:22:38] <BCMM> sounds like somebody intercepts your http
traffic and gives you 403s
1456 [13:23:23] *** Joins: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip )
1457 [13:23:35] <BCMM> converge: what do you mean by
"common"? is this your private home internet connection,
or do you share it with some organisation?
1458 [13:24:19] *** Quits: satanist (~satanist@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1459 [13:25:05] <converge> Thats strange, I have two
connection/ips from same internet service provider, it works in one,
and doesn't work on the other
1460 [13:25:36] <rant> sounds like as was suggested you have a
transparent firewall/proxy
1461 [13:25:45] <BCMM> converge: it might be interesting to look
at the full response headers (f12 in firefox) for the 403
1462 [13:25:58] *** Quits: CyberManifest (~CyberMani@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1463 [13:26:03] <BCMM> converge: see if you can find out who is
sending the response, because it's really not the server you
asked for :)
1464 [13:26:12] <case__> hi everyone
1465 [13:26:19] <converge> Sounds good
1466 [13:26:40] <case__> i have a boot problem with my fresh
stretch installation when i put in an additional disk
1467 [13:26:41] <BCMM> converge: these two lines, are they
supposed to be exactly the same?
1468 [13:26:43] *** Quits: OS-41888 (~OS-41888@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1469 [13:27:01] <rant> case__: can you elaborate on what a boot
problem is?
1470 [13:27:02] <BCMM> converge: this isn't something like
one of them is a general internet line, and one of them is just for
a voip service or something?
1471 [13:27:18] <converge> BCMM, I think so, they are physically
20km far
1472 [13:27:24] <case__> which - i think is because grub.cfg
contains device names instead of UUIDs : linux
/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-7-amd64 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet
1473 [13:27:44] <rant> case__: yes that can and will cause
problems
1474 [13:27:51] <BCMM> converge: so can you load a web page in a
browser, for example?
1475 [13:27:52] <case__> question: how can i make grub use UUIDs ?
1476 [13:28:09] *** Joins: yae7nae4 (~yae7nae4@replaced-ip )
1477 [13:28:28] <case__> i would have changed it by hand, but
grub.cfg says: DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
1478 [13:28:31] *** Joins: wilkc (~wilkc@replaced-ip )
1479 [13:28:33] *** Quits: pvdp (~pvdp@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1480 [13:28:38] <BCMM> converge: have you actually read the body
of the 403 response? perhaps it says "your account has been
suspended, please call $ISP" or something
1481 [13:29:11] <BCMM> case__: and what does it say directly under
that line?
1482 [13:29:13] *** Joins: m0u (~m0u@replaced-ip )
1483 [13:29:14] <converge> BCMM, everything sounds good so far,
but ok.. its just one package popping the issue, I'll check it
tomorrow again
1484 [13:29:24] <converge> Appreciate your help guys!
1485 [13:29:52] *** Quits: liske1 (~liske1@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1486 [13:29:58] *** Quits: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1487 [13:30:25] <BCMM> case__: on debian, it says "It is
automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates from
/etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub" - so you edit
those files to accomplish changes
1488 [13:30:28] <BCMM> your distro might differ, though
1489 [13:30:33] <BCMM> oh wait we are in #debian sorry
1490 [13:30:37] <BCMM> thought this was ##linux
1491 [13:30:39] <case__> BCMM: :-) - vi /etc/default/grub
contains: #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true
1492 [13:31:17] *** Quits: Zardoz (~Zardoz@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.8.x-nightly-20180809-2f4b158f -
##replaced-url
1493 [13:31:32] <rant> thats commented out
1494 [13:31:35] <BCMM> converge: from the gist, it looks like
it's the *only* package you try that's giving the error
1495 [13:31:40] *** Joins: Zardoz (~Zardoz@replaced-ip )
1496 [13:32:03] <BCMM> converge: try `curl
replaced-url
1497 [13:32:16] <case__> BCMM: I doesn't. I couldn't
find anything helpful in /etc/grub.d
1498 [13:33:08] <case__> BCMM: (but i do not really understand
what i'm searching for if it can be changed in /etc/grub.d)
1499 [13:33:42] <BCMM> case__: are you sure grub isn't using
uuids now? what does it say in /proc/cmdline for root=?
1500 [13:34:20] <glaucom> any help install nvidia driver in hibrid
? now message "algo deu errado blank screen"
1501 [13:34:32] *** Quits: lupulo (~javier@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1502 [13:34:55] *** Joins: satanist (~satanist@replaced-ip )
1503 [13:34:57] <case__> BCMM:
BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-7-amd64 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet
1504 [13:35:23] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip )
1505 [13:36:10] <BCMM> case__: that's odd, i thought it used
uuid by default
1506 [13:36:14] *** Joins: silverballz (~hidden@replaced-ip )
1507 [13:36:25] <BCMM> it doesn't check the / entry in fstab
or something, does it?
1508 [13:36:35] <case__> BCMM: Thats what i read everywhere :-)
1509 [13:36:35] *** Joins: encod3 (~encod3@replaced-ip )
1510 [13:36:41] <rant> case__: is ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
populated with links to the disks?
1511 [13:36:54] <case__> BCMM: Maybe a faulty bios or something?
1512 [13:37:05] *** Joins: monstar (~mitya@replaced-ip )
1513 [13:37:21] <case__> rant: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Nov 9
18:45 de815e2a-b012-420c-9e3f-0e762a3a72a6 -> ../../sda1
1514 [13:37:29] *** Joins: liske1 (~liske1@replaced-ip )
1515 [13:37:32] <rant> linux/grub doesn't really give a
flying firetruck about the bios once it has control :P
1516 [13:38:06] *** Parts: dab21 (~dab21@replaced-ip ) ("Disconnected: Replaced by new connection")
1517 [13:38:07] *** Joins: dab21 (~dab21@replaced-ip )
1518 [13:38:10] <rant> case__: have you tried running update-grub
and grub-install ? seeing if it changes the grub.cfg?
1519 [13:38:25] <rant> it may be that the device filesystem wasnt
right during install
1520 [13:38:30] *** Quits: glaucom (bd142ce2@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1521 [13:38:33] <rant> if its correct now, it may change
1522 [13:38:56] <case__> rant: I didn't. I will test this
now.
1523 [13:39:00] *** Quits: monstar_ (~mitya@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
1524 [13:39:50] <case__> rant: OMG - that works :-)))
1525 [13:40:09] *** Joins: Tuxuedo (~Tuxuedo4@replaced-ip )
1526 [13:40:15] <rant> case__: ah.. ok.. well that happens
sometimes in the installer that the dev is not updated properly at
time grub installs
1527 [13:40:40] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1528 [13:40:49] <rant> grub gets its info from the kernel when it
installs/configures not the bios
1529 [13:40:56] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1530 [13:41:03] <case__> rant: Fairly easy to fix - if you know it
;)
1531 [13:41:11] <rant> any info that is from the bios (which isnt
UUIDs, cause those arent in the bios), comes from the kernel
1532 [13:41:30] <case__> Thanks very much
1533 [13:41:45] <rant> no worries.
1534 [13:42:19] *** Quits: yonder (~yonder@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1535 [13:42:51] *** Joins: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip )
1536 [13:45:26] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1537 [13:45:29] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
1538 [13:48:26] *** Joins: selroc (~selroc@replaced-ip )
1539 [13:50:39] *** Quits: selroc (~selroc@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1540 [13:50:58] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1541 [13:51:09] *** Joins: czart (~czart@replaced-ip )
1542 [13:51:52] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
1543 [13:53:02] *** Joins: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip )
1544 [13:54:18] *** Quits: lel (l@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1545 [13:54:34] *** Joins: thnee (~thnee@replaced-ip )
1546 [13:55:16] <case__> test
1547 [13:55:18] *** Quits: rrittenhouse (~androirc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1548 [13:55:22] <rant> fail
1549 [13:55:36] <case__> nope - everything is fine ;)
1550 [13:55:52] *** Parts: dab21 (~dab21@replaced-ip ) ("Disconnected: Replaced by new connection")
1551 [13:55:54] *** Joins: dab21 (~dab21@replaced-ip )
1552 [13:56:23] *** Joins: M6HZ (~M6HZ@replaced-ip )
1553 [13:56:34] <rant> if everything were fine I wouldnt be
driving myself nuts trying to get these files backed up :P
1554 [13:56:37] *** Joins: jmarsac (~jmarsac@replaced-ip )
1555 [13:57:10] *** Quits: Linuxlars (~linuxlars@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
1556 [13:57:30] *** Quits: s8548a (~s8548a@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1557 [13:58:14] *** Quits: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ROCK OUT with your COCK OUT)
1558 [13:58:35] *** Joins: Zyferus (~Zyferus@replaced-ip )
1559 [13:58:46] *** Joins: Linuxlars (~linuxlars@replaced-ip )
1560 [13:59:08] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1561 [13:59:55] *** Quits: Zyferus (~Zyferus@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1562 [14:00:13] *** Quits: liske1 (~liske1@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
1563 [14:00:29] *** Joins: glaucom (~blackcat@replaced-ip )
1564 [14:01:27] <case__> rsync?
1565 [14:01:36] <rant> no trying to get the pictures off a phone
1566 [14:02:10] <rant> any method with the pc is just doing
nothing but hanging.. everytime I try use thumbdrive and the
filemanager on the phone it does it, but I wind up with less on the
thumbdrive than is on the phone
1567 [14:02:15] *** Joins: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip )
1568 [14:02:37] <rant> I'm trying it again though with a
thumbdrive via OTG since thats the only thing thats trying to work
1569 [14:02:45] *** Joins: b (coffee@replaced-ip )
1570 [14:02:59] *** Joins: Nexilva (~Nexilva@replaced-ip )
1571 [14:03:21] *** Joins: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip )
1572 [14:03:46] <rant> I almost dare say I hate android more than
iTunes or Windows
1573 [14:03:48] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1574 [14:04:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1424
1575 [14:04:05] <qman__> rant: try using total commander instead
of whatever built in file manager there is
1576 [14:04:25] <rant> I'll try that if samsung files fails
this time around
1577 [14:04:42] *** Quits: mthe878 (~mthe@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1578 [14:04:45] *** Joins: Tanye (~PalPV4@replaced-ip )
1579 [14:04:58] <rant> I been trying with debian with it in both
files and photos mode, with thunar, caja, shotwell, etc.. they all
just seem to hang indefinitely
1580 [14:05:20] *** Quits: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1581 [14:05:22] *** Joins: discovered1 (~discovere@replaced-ip )
1582 [14:05:35] <rant> granted that DCIM directory has idk maybe
over 300 subdirs and total of probably nearly 100,000 photos over
5GB but still..
1583 [14:05:40] <BCMM> rant: aren't those all just gvfs
browsers?
1584 [14:05:53] <BCMM> rant: i.e. you're using the same mtp
implementation with different front-ends
1585 [14:06:16] <rant> I'm not using an Apple IIC here.. I
got a damn Core i5 w/ 4gb ram and an SSD, and USB 3.0.. running the
best OS there is
1586 [14:06:18] *** Quits: devz (~devz@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds))
1587 [14:06:34] <BCMM> rant: is this an android phone?
1588 [14:06:37] *** Joins: mthe878 (~mthe@replaced-ip )
1589 [14:06:45] <rant> BCMM: yes well all are not equal.. caja has
been really crappy as of late, especially when copying/moving files
:P
1590 [14:06:53] *** Joins: sstern (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1591 [14:06:53] <RoyK> ]
1592 [14:06:56] <RoyK> oops
1593 [14:07:02] <rant> BCMM: yes its a stock Verizon Galaxy S7
1594 [14:07:12] <BCMM> rant: you could try adb. mtp is kind of
stupid.
1595 [14:07:17] *** Joins: s8548a (~s8548a@replaced-ip )
1596 [14:07:19] <rant> yes it is..
1597 [14:07:34] <case__> mtp is even awfully slow with only a few
hundred photos - or is it just Samsung?
1598 [14:07:55] <BCMM> no, mtp is, per se, just not very good
1599 [14:08:10] <rant> I will try total commander and adb if this
doesnt work.. but as of right now it seems to be 12,000 files into
90,000 files copying with samsung files to the thumbdrive..
1600 [14:08:22] <rant> I should be able to tell fairly easily if
it got it all or not once its done
1601 [14:08:26] <BCMM> android chose it because windows supported
it out of the box, and windows supported it because of some ancient
crappy mp3 players basically
1602 [14:08:29] *** Quits: discovered (~discovere@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1603 [14:08:43] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nix64bit)
1604 [14:09:07] * RoyK wonders if android/adb talk is strictly about
debian ;)
1605 [14:09:11] <rant> yes well this is one of many reasons I want
a custom rom.. but I been avoiding even trying it cause I got data
on here I haven't had any luck backing up
1606 [14:09:27] <BCMM> rant: how does a custom rom help?
1607 [14:09:27] <case__> maybe it's possible to mount it an
do it without any file manager that tries to read everything in
advance ...
1608 [14:09:39] <BCMM> rant: you don't need root to have an
sshd :)
1609 [14:10:10] <rant> samsung seems to support 3rd party roms..
options for it are in the stock software..
1610 [14:10:31] <BCMM> i usually get files off the phone with kde
connect, over the wifi
1611 [14:10:44] <rant> support as in allow and facilitate the use
of them, not so much offer support
1612 [14:10:50] *** Quits: glaucom (~blackcat@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
1613 [14:11:04] <BCMM> yeah, they do the absolute opposite of
actually offer support
1614 [14:11:37] <BCMM> they permanently blow a fuse when you
unlock the bootloader just so they'll always know the phone has
no warranty
1615 [14:11:41] *** Quits: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ROCK OUT with your COCK OUT)
1616 [14:11:42] <rant> idk about all the settings, apps, and
such.. but I noticed google at least keeps track of what I have
installed.. I gave up trying cause I failed numerous times and got
tired of having to set everything up again
1617 [14:12:08] *** Quits: vizius00 (~vizius00@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1618 [14:12:24] <BCMM> case__: that's actually not a bad
idea, in that it would at least involve using a different mtp
implementation instead of just trying gvfs again
1619 [14:12:46] <rant> yeah well I dont even have a sim in it.. no
plans of using it as a phone.. just a powerful mobile device I use
to map hikes, watch movies, take photos, etc.
1620 [14:12:48] *** Joins: vizius00 (~vizius00@replaced-ip )
1621 [14:12:50] *** Joins: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip )
1622 [14:12:54] *** Quits: hwm4rgs (~hwm4rgs@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1623 [14:12:56] <BCMM> i don't know if any of the fuse
implementations of mtp are actually good though. the fact that
there's so damn many of them suggests that they might not be
1624 [14:12:59] *** Joins: emrullah (~emrullah@replaced-ip )
1625 [14:14:13] *** Quits: m0u (~m0u@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1626 [14:14:14] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
1627 [14:14:51] *** Quits: trobotham (~nitemare@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1628 [14:15:15] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip )
1629 [14:15:20] *** xvnvx is now known as alphabeta
1630 [14:15:45] *** Joins: hwm4rgs (~hwm4rgs@replaced-ip )
1631 [14:16:21] *** Joins: monstar_ (~mitya@replaced-ip )
1632 [14:16:35] *** Quits: emrullah (~emrullah@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1633 [14:17:02] *** Joins: emrullah (~emrullah@replaced-ip )
1634 [14:17:04] *** Quits: pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ☮ out)
1635 [14:17:19] *** Joins: buriz (~tud3@replaced-ip )
1636 [14:17:20] *** Joins: mito_ (~mito@replaced-ip )
1637 [14:17:42] *** Quits: _daniel-s__ (~daniel-s@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1638 [14:18:07] *** Quits: \dev\cache (~\dev\cach@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
1639 [14:18:32] *** Joins: oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@replaced-ip )
1640 [14:18:40] *** Quits: monstar (~mitya@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1641 [14:18:42] *** Joins: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip )
1642 [14:18:47] *** Joins: \dev\cache (~\dev\cach@replaced-ip )
1643 [14:19:22] *** Quits: hwm4rgs (~hwm4rgs@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1644 [14:19:23] *** Parts: Tanye (~PalPV4@replaced-ip ) ()
1645 [14:20:25] <case__> If some ssh daemon can actually run on a
non rooted android than that's the best solution - isn't
it? So it's rsync again :)
1646 [14:20:39] *** Joins: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip )
1647 [14:20:45] *** Quits: sc_ (~sc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: reboot)
1648 [14:20:52] *** Joins: hwm4rgs (~hwm4rgs@replaced-ip )
1649 [14:20:53] *** Quits: sparklyballs (~bouncy@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1650 [14:21:28] *** Joins: sparklyballs (bouncy@replaced-ip )
1651 [14:21:50] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1652 [14:22:15] *** Joins: n4dir (~n4dir@replaced-ip )
1653 [14:22:28] *** Joins: RNM (~rnm@replaced-ip )
1654 [14:22:36] *** Joins: sc_ (~sc@replaced-ip )
1655 [14:23:10] *** Quits: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1656 [14:25:06] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1657 [14:25:22] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1658 [14:26:14] *** Quits: converge (~converge@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1659 [14:27:56] *** Joins: Tanye (~PalPV4@replaced-ip )
1660 [14:28:22] *** Joins: sentriz (~sentriz@replaced-ip )
1661 [14:29:07] *** Quits: supersoju (~ajones@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1662 [14:29:42] *** Joins: fightthewalrus (~user@replaced-ip )
1663 [14:29:49] *** Parts: Tanye (~PalPV4@replaced-ip ) ()
1664 [14:29:57] *** Quits: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1665 [14:30:07] *** Quits: Namarrgon (~glei@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1666 [14:30:38] <rant> yeah idk I usually just use a
thumbdrive+otg+samsung files but I'm usually moving data ON to
the phone to watch/listen/view on the go
1667 [14:30:39] *** Quits: whjeon (~whjeon@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1668 [14:30:56] <JustASlacker> termux is nice
1669 [14:31:00] *** Joins: Ubuntu1804LTS (~Ubuntu180@replaced-ip )
1670 [14:31:02] <JustASlacker> just scp it over :)
1671 [14:31:09] <JustASlacker> or use samba
1672 [14:31:33] *** Parts: Ubuntu1804LTS (~Ubuntu180@replaced-ip ) ()
1673 [14:31:47] *** Quits: pzn (~pzn@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1674 [14:32:07] <rant> thing is I gotten so much of my stuff on
there and while all these photos for example came from the PC,
I've since pruned, organized, and edited them on the phone..
and now want that remastered collection back.. heh.. when I'm
at the PC I dont really wanna sit there playing around with photos..
but when I'm on the go I am usually bored enough to flip
through them and see whats what :P
1675 [14:32:09] *** Quits: emrullah (~emrullah@replaced-ip ) (Quit: emrullah)
1676 [14:32:23] <rant> and since it now lets you do split screen..
I can be watchin a movie or something while I'm doin it
1677 [14:32:37] *** Joins: trobotham (~nitemare@replaced-ip )
1678 [14:32:45] *** xcm is now known as Guest77506
1679 [14:33:04] *** Joins: MoonkYang (~moonkyang@replaced-ip )
1680 [14:33:11] <JustASlacker> yeah, so, just scp those pictures
to your pc
1681 [14:33:27] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
1682 [14:33:34] *** Quits: Guest77506 (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
1683 [14:33:50] *** Joins: ae-35 (~ae-35@replaced-ip )
1684 [14:34:22] *** Quits: nadley (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1685 [14:35:15] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1686 [14:35:32] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1687 [14:35:45] *** Joins: nadley (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1688 [14:35:48] <rant> well as of right now it seems to be
actually finishing the copy back to the thumbdrive for the first
time ever.. if its actually copying the whole thing or not remains
to be seen
1689 [14:36:35] <case__> rant: If most of the data keeps unchanged
an in it's place it's *the* typical rsync -a --delete
<phone> <pc> task
1690 [14:37:12] <n4dir> "i'm usually bored enough".
finally someone says it.
1691 [14:37:37] <rant> well I'm more using the phone to go
through the stuff and organize it.. something I rarely do when
I'm sitting at the computer :P
1692 [14:37:59] <rant> done more organization, deleting, and
editing on this galaxy than I ever done on the laptop
1693 [14:38:37] <rant> well unless you count batch operations
which I do on the PC at time when I see something that can obviously
be addressed with a script
1694 [14:38:46] *** Quits: preview_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1695 [14:38:47] *** Quits: monstar_ (~mitya@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1696 [14:39:10] *** Joins: lel (l@replaced-ip )
1697 [14:39:20] *** Joins: monstar_ (~mitya@replaced-ip )
1698 [14:39:25] <EdePopede> do the Bug Reports links on PDO
*gerenally* point to unstable?
1699 [14:40:02] <rant> EdePopede: most often, sure.. since stable
isn't changing.. its where all the action is.. in sid..
1700 [14:40:21] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1701 [14:40:53] <petn-randall> Not really. It just point to the
bug reports for the package.
1702 [14:40:56] <petn-randall> *points
1703 [14:41:08] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1704 [14:41:15] <rant> which happen to be most often in sid
versions :P
1705 [14:41:17] <EdePopede> and this one redirects to unstable, at
least for my few tests now
1706 [14:41:23] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
1707 [14:41:33] <EdePopede> local: htop 2.0.2 -- PDO: Bugs in
package htop (version 2.2.0-1+b1) in unstable <--- what now?
1708 [14:41:46] <rant> mmm htop.. like that program..
1709 [14:42:17] <EdePopede> if a bug is fixed in unstable it still
could be around in stable. that's... irritiating
1710 [14:42:38] *** Joins: preview (~quassel@replaced-ip )
1711 [14:42:51] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1712 [14:42:56] <EdePopede> especially i can't say
"there's a bug" since it is tagged as fixed, but i
still have it here (together with all the users of stable)
1713 [14:43:37] <rant> EdePopede: security flaws are patched, but
other than that its not real common for things to change in most
packages
1714 [14:43:42] <rant> ,v htop
1715 [14:43:43] <judd> Package: htop on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.1-1;
jessie: 1.0.3-1; jessie-backports: 2.0.2-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.0.2-1;
buster: 2.2.0-1+b1; sid: 2.2.0-1+b1
1716 [14:43:43] *** Quits: tmm88 (~tmm88@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1717 [14:44:08] <EdePopede> rant: indeed, superior to all these
gui versions of such tools. at least i didn't see a really
usable so far
1718 [14:44:10] <rant> EdePopede: you could do a ssb
1719 [14:44:24] <EdePopede> s....pardon me?
1720 [14:44:28] *** Quits: Antares268 (~Antares26@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1721 [14:44:32] <n4dir> if it is fixed it usually is marked as
fixed/unfixed in which version at bugs.debian.net. Even in a nice
graphic.
1722 [14:44:35] <n4dir> iirc
1723 [14:44:36] <rant> EdePopede: /msg dpkg ssb
1724 [14:44:44] <EdePopede> ah k i will
1725 [14:45:06] <rant> EdePopede: its a really simple process for
backporting from sid/buster a package that has changed..
1726 [14:45:20] <rant> EdePopede: you can also /msg judd
checkbackport htop
1727 [14:45:34] <rant> EdePopede: which will tell you if there are
any issues that may prevent backporting to stable
1728 [14:46:03] *** Joins: diogenes_ (~diogenes_@replaced-ip )
1729 [14:46:16] <EdePopede> rant: had this some time ago. wanted
to test out the brandnew mediawiki release. needed quite some
changes, but didn't really hurt
1730 [14:46:56] *** Quits: fightthewalrus (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1731 [14:47:41] <rant> I dont mind mate-system-monitor and the one
in XFCE while more simplistic isnt bad either.. but htop is nice
cause you can run it over ssh/mosh in screen and such and its a
really nice program
1732 [14:47:41] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1733 [14:47:57] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1734 [14:48:11] *** Joins: monstar (~mitya@replaced-ip )
1735 [14:48:22] <rant> it is more featureful and customizable than
many of the GUI ones, not to mention more flexible being able to run
in a terminal
1736 [14:48:58] *** Quits: monstar_ (~mitya@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1737 [14:49:09] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1738 [14:49:11] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1739 [14:49:23] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
1740 [14:51:46] <EdePopede> and better designed. i don't see
a reason of width=100px for the ID column and such. and resizing
columns doesn't help. with the next update it is back at those
values. half of the window is empty while half of the info is
hidden. unless i make it fullscreen.
1741 [14:51:53] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1742 [14:52:00] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip )
1743 [14:52:36] <EdePopede> and anyway, if it is about text, no
need for fancy graphics.
1744 [14:52:39] <shtrb> Other than usbmodemswitch and
modem-manager are there essential packages to enable 3G connection
for network-manager ?
1745 [14:52:50] *** Quits: lel (l@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1746 [14:53:14] <shtrb> reinstalled, and I'm missing
something 100% to get network-manager the ui option to connect to an
apn
1747 [14:53:43] <shtrb> (and mobile-broadband-provider-info is
also installed)
1748 [14:53:52] <rant> are you sure the hw is all good to go?
drivers/firmware
1749 [14:54:09] <shtrb> yes, I can connect with wvdial
1750 [14:54:19] * rant shrugs
1751 [14:54:35] <shtrb> It's some ui package 100% (using
plasma)
1752 [14:54:47] *** Joins: tenten (~tenten@replaced-ip )
1753 [14:54:55] <rant> last I used one of those thats what I used
wvdial.. network-manager was really new in debian back then
1754 [14:55:15] <RNM> how to set zsh history only store unique
value / not duplicate ?
1755 [14:55:35] <jelly> RNM: #zsh channel might know the answer if
there is one
1756 [14:55:37] *** Joins: bolovanos (~bolovanos@replaced-ip )
1757 [14:55:52] *** Quits: mito_ (~mito@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше))
1758 [14:56:00] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1759 [14:56:15] <rant> that is a good question though.. I often
thought it was rather annoying to have duplicates in my bash history
1760 [14:56:39] <jelly> I never noticed that in my zsh history.
1761 [14:57:01] *** Joins: linuxconformer (adf9228b@replaced-ip )
1762 [14:57:10] <linuxconformer> hey guys
1763 [14:57:14] <linuxconformer> just a quick question
1764 [14:57:19] <jelly> it certainly does not add a second
instance of a command if you run the same thing a couple times in a
row
1765 [14:57:23] <rant> I considered writing a history manager
before to help me keep and convert priceless one-liners to scripts
1766 [14:57:34] <linuxconformer> can i run normal command line
commands in a .sh script?
1767 [14:57:36] <RNM> no one answer on #zsh..
1768 [14:57:47] <jelly> RNM: be patient, it's not a very
large channel
1769 [14:57:55] <BCMM> linuxconformer: how do you mean? as in,
launch an interactive shell inside a script?
1770 [14:57:55] <shtrb> linuxconformer, yes
1771 [14:58:05] <linuxconformer> e.g. "cd mydir; sh
./some-program" > script.sh
1772 [14:58:08] *** Joins: lel_ (l@replaced-ip )
1773 [14:58:20] <linuxconformer> BCMM: ^
1774 [14:58:21] <jelly> linuxconformer: of course
1775 [14:58:23] <n4dir> linuxconformer: i would even say that is
the main part of a bash/shell script.
1776 [14:58:35] <BCMM> linuxconformer: yes. the shell isn't
special.
1777 [14:58:41] <n4dir> you might want to watch the video of the
"shellhaters".
1778 [14:58:43] <linuxconformer> oh, i thought shell scripting was
using all the other syntax (of which i know very little)
1779 [14:58:48] <BCMM> linuxconformer: by which i mean, it's
just a command line program, like any other command line program
1780 [14:59:10] <linuxconformer> got it, for some reason i thought
there was a difference between normal terminal commands and shell
scripts
1781 [14:59:13] *** Quits: Harvey-Pwca (~HarveyPwc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1782 [14:59:15] <BCMM> it can have its input and output
redirected, it can be called from other programs, etc.
1783 [14:59:23] *** Quits: deadz0 (~deadz0@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1784 [14:59:27] <linuxconformer> but terminal is just a subset of
shell scripts (if that makes sense)
1785 [14:59:27] *** Quits: stefanc_diff (~stefanc_d@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1786 [14:59:30] *** Joins: deadz0 (~deadz0@replaced-ip )
1787 [14:59:39] *** Quits: airwind (~belovent@replaced-ip ) (Quit: airwind)
1788 [14:59:40] <linuxconformer> i.e. same thing
1789 [14:59:42] <linuxconformer> thanks
1790 [14:59:54] <BCMM> linuxconformer: sorry, i misunderstood your
initial question. but yes, shell scripts can do anything the shell
can do.
1791 [14:59:56] <shtrb> linuxconformer, a script should accept the
syntax of your shell (via the shebang)
1792 [14:59:58] <rant> only real difference between scripts and
commands I can think of is the shebang
1793 [15:00:00] <dvs> linuxconformer, it depends what the first
line of the script file says.
1794 [15:00:11] <linuxconformer> #/bin/bash
1795 [15:00:11] <RNM> faster faster :P
1796 [15:00:18] <BCMM> linuxconformer: #!, not just #
1797 [15:00:22] <dvs> linuxconformer, yeah, then it's the
same
1798 [15:00:30] *** Quits: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1799 [15:00:48] <BCMM> linuxconformer: if you're using
#!/bin/bash, and bash is your regular shell, then yes the shell
script will support all features of your shell
1800 [15:00:56] *** Quits: knidos (~knidos@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
1801 [15:01:03] *** Quits: siwica (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1802 [15:01:15] <BCMM> (if you were using different shells as your
script interpreter and your regular interactive shell, then they
would of course differ)
1803 [15:01:50] *** Joins: abineQ (~m@replaced-ip )
1804 [15:01:56] *** Quits: tenten (~tenten@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1805 [15:02:33] <rant> and this is not the case with all shells..
as there will be differences between python interactive and python
scripts
1806 [15:02:36] *** Joins: m0u (~m0u@replaced-ip )
1807 [15:02:55] <linuxconformer> great, thanks. Also, is it
possible to do a check on server status in the shell?
1808 [15:03:22] <rant> systemctl status <service>
1809 [15:03:45] <BCMM> linuxconformer: what do you mean by
"server status"?
1810 [15:03:52] *** Joins: crimson_king (~crimson_k@replaced-ip )
1811 [15:03:55] *** Quits: Pjusur (~Pjusur@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1812 [15:04:30] *** Joins: mint (~mint@replaced-ip )
1813 [15:04:38] *** Joins: franklyundead2 (~franklyun@replaced-ip )
1814 [15:04:49] <linuxconformer> BCMM: i'm having some
problems with a server randomly stopping running processes, so im
writing a cron to see if that server is down, and if so to restart
the programs
1815 [15:04:55] <n4dir> linuxconformer: this guide explains lots
of things quite well:
replaced-url
1816 [15:05:01] <JustASlacker> linuxconformer: dont
1817 [15:05:05] <linuxconformer> but i need to know the status of
my server before i run my script
1818 [15:05:08] <linuxconformer> why not?
1819 [15:05:26] <JustASlacker> you can tell systemd / supervisor
to do that
1820 [15:05:39] *** Joins: colinjmatt (~colinjmat@replaced-ip )
1821 [15:05:47] <BCMM> linuxconformer: ah - you have a linux
machine you use as a server (web server?) and the service
that's running on it inexplicably stops working?
1822 [15:05:49] <JustASlacker> and there are existing ways to
monitor linux systems
1823 [15:05:50] *** Quits: franklyundead (~franklyun@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
1824 [15:05:58] <linuxconformer> BCMM: correct
1825 [15:06:14] <linuxconformer> JustASlacker: monitoring is not
the problem, but i want to automate the restarting process
1826 [15:06:31] <linuxconformer> JustASlacker: hmm is systemd
similar to cron?
1827 [15:06:43] <linuxconformer> can i run arbitrary commands?
1828 [15:06:46] <JustASlacker> yeah, put Restart=always in systemd
1829 [15:06:56] *** Quits: mrjpaxton (~weechat@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.2)
1830 [15:07:06] <JustASlacker> no, its responsible for managing
services.
1831 [15:07:12] <JustASlacker> daemon processes
1832 [15:07:14] *** Quits: MoonkYang (~moonkyang@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1833 [15:07:34] <linuxconformer> JustASlacker: oh, so if my
programs have PIDs, i can use systemD?
1834 [15:07:43] <linuxconformer> wouldn't it need to know the
initialization commands then?
1835 [15:07:43] <JustASlacker> yeah
1836 [15:07:53] <JustASlacker>
linuxconfig.org/how-to-automatically-execute-shell-script-at-startup-boot-on-systemd-linux
1837 [15:08:04] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: wouldn't it be
better to diagnose the dying of the process instead of developing an
auto-restart function?
1838 [15:08:12] <rant> linuxconformer: systemd would have better
access than cron, it wouldnt need to run on a time schedule, it
would already know if it was running or not
1839 [15:08:42] <linuxconformer> TvL2386: certainly, but the
former i don't know how to do, and the latter i do
1840 [15:08:43] <rant> linuxconformer: if your server process isnt
already using a systemd unit (most all are) then you will need to
create one to manage the service
1841 [15:09:19] * rant wanders off
1842 [15:09:29] <linuxconformer> rant: i just put the .service
file in /etc/systemd/system/ right?
1843 [15:09:32] *** Joins: BeerHall (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1844 [15:09:38] <linuxconformer> e.g.
/etc/systemd/system/uptime.service
1845 [15:09:46] <JustASlacker> pretty much
1846 [15:09:52] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: tell us more about this
service, we might be able to help you diagnose the problem
1847 [15:10:30] <linuxconformer> TvL2386: basically it's just
docker-compose and a frontend client
1848 [15:10:48] <linuxconformer> for some reason, it keeps
stopping (randomly, but normally once a day)
1849 [15:10:56] *** Joins: oish_ (~charlie@replaced-ip )
1850 [15:10:57] <JustASlacker> docker also has an option to
restart containers
1851 [15:11:13] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: how is that process
started?
1852 [15:11:19] *** Quits: monksam (~monksam@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
1853 [15:11:32] *** Joins: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
1854 [15:11:50] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1855 [15:11:53] <JustASlacker>
blog.codeship.com/ensuring-containers-are-always-running-with-dockers-restart-policy/
1856 [15:11:56] <linuxconformer> TvL2386: docker using
"docker-compose up -d"
1857 [15:12:04] *** Quits: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip ) (Quit: ROCK OUT with your COCK OUT)
1858 [15:12:06] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
1859 [15:12:10] <linuxconformer> in the app directory
1860 [15:12:21] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
1861 [15:12:22] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: I see... so your problem
is that your container dies?
1862 [15:12:55] <linuxconformer> TvL2386: i'm not totally
sure what's causing the problem, because my frontend process
also dies
1863 [15:13:21] <JustASlacker> linuxconformer: put restart: always
in your compose.yml
1864 [15:13:23] *** Quits: Brigo_ (~Brigo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
1865 [15:13:25] *** Joins: supersoju (~ajones@replaced-ip )
1866 [15:13:37] <case__> does anyone know haw to effectively set
the mariadb root password? i did "mysqladmin -h localhost
password" and restarted but can still login without pw.
1867 [15:13:44] <linuxconformer> JustASlacker: that seems way too
simple, maybe it'll work though :P
1868 [15:13:56] <linuxconformer> doesn't explain why it stops
in the first place though
1869 [15:14:17] <JustASlacker>
docs.docker.com/v1.7/compose/yml/#working-dir-entrypoint-user-hostname-domainname-mem-limit-privileged-restart-stdin-open-tty-cpu-shares-cpuset-read-only
1870 [15:14:43] <JustASlacker> that is left as an exercise for the
read ^_^
1871 [15:14:46] <linuxconformer> also, it has another component
which is started using a makefile, how can i restar this?
1872 [15:15:01] <JustASlacker> maybe you want #docker
1873 [15:15:25] *** Joins: stefanc_diff (~stefanc_d@replaced-ip )
1874 [15:15:39] *** Quits: franklyundead2 (~franklyun@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1875 [15:16:08] <linuxconformer> this is kind of why i want the
restart script (at least until i figure out how to solve it
properly)
1876 [15:17:14] *** Quits: Tuxuedo (~Tuxuedo4@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1877 [15:18:41] <linuxconformer> man cron seems so much easier
1878 [15:19:29] *** Quits: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1879 [15:19:48] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: I start docker
containers on docker hosts with ansible and set
"restart_policy: always"
1880 [15:20:04] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: that's exactly what
you want
1881 [15:20:30] *** Joins: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip )
1882 [15:20:34] <TvL2386> and like JustASlacker said: you can put
such a thing in your compose.yml
1883 [15:20:50] *** Joins: Raizel (~Raizel@replaced-ip )
1884 [15:20:53] *** Joins: altin (~altin@replaced-ip )
1885 [15:20:53] *** Quits: altin (~altin@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
1886 [15:20:53] *** Joins: altin (~altin@replaced-ip )
1887 [15:21:04] *** Joins: well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@replaced-ip )
1888 [15:21:08] *** Quits: NerdTheThird (~NerdTheTh@replaced-ip ) (Quit: sham1 sham1 ya, sham1 sham1 yam)
1889 [15:21:37] *** Quits: rant (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
1890 [15:22:24] *** Parts: dab21 (~dab21@replaced-ip ) ("Disconnected: Replaced by new connection")
1891 [15:22:25] *** Joins: dab21 (~dab21@replaced-ip )
1892 [15:22:31] *** Joins: rant (~user@replaced-ip )
1893 [15:22:54] <JustASlacker> well, if you really think doing it
via cron, nobody can stop you
1894 [15:22:58] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: The reason it's so
hard, is imho that you are trying to reinvent the wheel
1895 [15:22:59] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
1896 [15:23:02] *** Joins: Colti (Miramar-FL@replaced-ip )
1897 [15:23:05] *** Joins: greycat (~wooledg@replaced-ip )
1898 [15:23:11] *** Joins: zeroone (~zeroone@replaced-ip )
1899 [15:23:24] <linuxconformer> TvL2386: i would put it in my
docker-compose, but i also have a Makefile which has a
"docker-run" command for the main part of the app
1900 [15:23:25] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: you are doing container
orchestration thingies
1901 [15:23:36] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: first thing that comes
to mind is a Kubernetes cluster
1902 [15:24:07] <JustASlacker> It appears as your current setup is
already crazy.
1903 [15:24:09] *** Quits: paulgrmn (~paulgrmn@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1904 [15:24:17] <TvL2386> yup :)
1905 [15:24:20] <JustASlacker> adding more insanity on top isnt
making things easier in the future
1906 [15:24:31] <linuxconformer> JustASlacker: it's not mine,
it's a forked open source application :P
1907 [15:24:36] *** Quits: crimson_king (~crimson_k@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1908 [15:24:47] <linuxconformer> anyone, i'll try using
always restart
1909 [15:24:47] <TvL2386> exactly! Redesign time!!! :D
1910 [15:24:56] *** Joins: tarcript (~tarcript@replaced-ip )
1911 [15:24:58] <tarcript> hello
1912 [15:25:04] <TvL2386> hi
1913 [15:25:08] *** Joins: martybr (~marty@replaced-ip )
1914 [15:25:10] <linuxconformer> TvL2386: hahaha i'm not paid
enough to do a redesign
1915 [15:25:10] *** Quits: Raizel (~Raizel@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1916 [15:25:19] <tarcript> someone can help me? I have my internet
very slow
1917 [15:25:31] *** Joins: Raizel (~Raizel@replaced-ip )
1918 [15:25:36] <tarcript> with debian stretch
1919 [15:25:43] <tarcript> in windows work well and speed
1920 [15:25:51] <TvL2386> I'd like my internet well-baked
with bacon
1921 [15:25:58] <tarcript> haha
1922 [15:26:36] <tarcript> My eth0 is enp0s31f6 and wlan wlp61s0
1923 [15:26:40] <tarcript> Now I use eth0 ..
1924 [15:26:45] <tarcript> But internet work slow ...
1925 [15:27:10] *** Quits: Raizel (~Raizel@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
1926 [15:28:06] <tarcript> I installed the privative firmware
iwlwifi
1927 [15:28:07] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
1928 [15:28:08] *** Joins: martin-_-__ (~default@replaced-ip )
1929 [15:28:08] *** Joins: martin-_-_ (~default@replaced-ip )
1930 [15:28:09] *** Joins: Finn__ (~Finn@replaced-ip )
1931 [15:29:17] *** Quits: disposable2 (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: disposable2)
1932 [15:29:30] *** Joins: monksam (~monksam@replaced-ip )
1933 [15:29:57] <linuxconformer> should i use shutdown or reboot
for a soft restart?
1934 [15:30:14] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: I always use reboot
1935 [15:30:33] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: but `shutdown -r now`
could also be done
1936 [15:30:52] *** Parts: Finn__ (~Finn@replaced-ip ) ()
1937 [15:30:53] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: what's a soft
restart anyways?
1938 [15:31:32] <linuxconformer> TvL2386: all processes are
stopped safely
1939 [15:31:49] <TvL2386> linuxconformer: ah ok, well `reboot` is
fine
1940 [15:31:58] <JustASlacker> isnt hard restart basically
"pull the plug"?
1941 [15:32:18] <TvL2386> JustASlacker: as in pushing the reset
button
1942 [15:32:43] <JustASlacker> PULL THE PLUG!!!11!
1943 [15:33:18] <linuxconformer> pretty much
1944 [15:33:29] <linuxconformer> you guys know what "if [ $?
-ne 0 ]" does?
1945 [15:33:39] <linuxconformer> (bash)
1946 [15:33:39] *** Quits: Codier (~user@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1947 [15:33:47] <greycat> Demonstrates your incompetence.
1948 [15:34:10] *** Quits: lucar (~lucar@replaced-ip ) (Quit: lucar)
1949 [15:34:11] <linuxconformer> greycat: i'm pretty sure it
was demonstrated far earlier tbh
1950 [15:34:14] <TvL2386> ROFLMAO
1951 [15:34:56] <TvL2386> yep... definitely a murder... take my
upvote :)
1952 [15:35:09] <greycat> Your script has some block of code like
foo bar; if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then baz; fi
1953 [15:35:10] *** Joins: lucar (~lucar@replaced-ip )
1954 [15:35:16] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
1955 [15:35:30] <greycat> It should just do this instead: if ! foo
bar; then baz; fi
1956 [15:35:34] <greycat> Or even this: foo bar || baz
1957 [15:36:20] <shtrb> ,v modem-manager-qt
1958 [15:36:21] <judd> No package named
'modem-manager-qt' was found in amd64.
1959 [15:36:39] <shtrb> ,v modemmanager-qt
1960 [15:36:40] <judd> No package named
'modemmanager-qt' was found in amd64.
1961 [15:37:17] <BCMM> linuxconformer: in a system where 0 is
false and nonzero is true, asking "if $? is not equal to
0" is equivalent to asking "if $?"
1962 [15:37:19] *** Joins: LtL (~ltl@replaced-ip )
1963 [15:37:58] *** Joins: hele (~hele@replaced-ip )
1964 [15:38:03] <BCMM> although i think i just flipped truthiness
upside down, as it applies to exit status
1965 [15:38:12] <greycat> BCMM: more to the point, it demonstrates
the common fallacy that bash's "if" statement needs a
left square bracket, a test expression, and a right square bracket.
It's complete bunk.
1966 [15:38:23] *** Quits: diogenes_ (~diogenes_@replaced-ip ) (Quit: vergissmeinnicht)
1967 [15:38:58] <linuxconformer> ping -c 3 $SERVER_URL >
/dev/null 2>&1
1968 [15:38:58] <linuxconformer> could i do "ping -c 3
example.com > /dev/null 2>&1; if ... fi"?
1969 [15:38:59] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
1970 [15:39:04] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1971 [15:39:06] *** Quits: zeroone (~zeroone@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
1972 [15:39:12] <greycat> Do you want to act on SUCCESS, or on
FAILURE of the ping?
1973 [15:39:12] <JustASlacker> maybe you want #bash
1974 [15:39:13] <linuxconformer> where ... is basically just
rebooting
1975 [15:39:15] <BCMM> greycat: because the [ ] block is basically
just another command which provides an exit status, right?
1976 [15:39:16] *** Joins: RebelCoder (~RebelCode@replaced-ip )
1977 [15:39:21] <greycat> BCMM: yes
1978 [15:39:23] <linuxconformer> greycat: i want reboot on 404
1979 [15:39:28] <JustASlacker> the guys at #bash need a laugh too
1980 [15:39:34] <greycat> linuxconformer: then use curl or
something, not ping.
1981 [15:39:55] <greycat> you can't ping a URL anyway
1982 [15:39:57] <BCMM> linuxconformer: 404 is a concept within
http
1983 [15:40:12] *** Quits: tarcript (~tarcript@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1984 [15:40:14] <BCMM> linuxconformer: with ping, you're
basically just checking if the computer is running and plugged in to
the network
1985 [15:40:25] <greycat> and has the correct IP
1986 [15:40:26] <TvL2386> maybe linuxconformer wants to act on
exitstatus 404 ?
1987 [15:40:26] <BCMM> linuxconformer: ping will succeed even if
your http server isn't running at all
1988 [15:40:38] <greycat> TvL2386: that's why I suggested
curl
1989 [15:40:39] <linuxconformer> not sure, i just want to check if
my app is running and if not to reboot
1990 [15:40:48] *** Quits: intcat (~zshlyk@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
1991 [15:40:48] <TvL2386> exit status of an application
1992 [15:40:53] <BCMM> linuxconformer: (if you want to know if
your http server has crashed, you *still* won't be getting a
404, because 404 is a response from the server)
1993 [15:40:54] <TvL2386> as in: exit(404)
1994 [15:41:00] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1995 [15:41:13] <greycat> Why not configure your system to restart
the application if the application crashes? Or do you actually think
you need a full reboot?
1996 [15:41:34] <greycat> TvL2386: that's nonsensical. Exit
status is an unsigned 8-bit number anyway.
1997 [15:41:43] <TvL2386> greycat: ah darn
1998 [15:41:47] <greycat> wooledg:~$ (exit 404); echo $?
1999 [15:41:47] <greycat> 148
2000 [15:41:49] <linuxconformer> greycat: i need something while i
implement a system version of of restart
2001 [15:42:14] <greycat> linuxconformer: curl -s
"$your_url" || ssh root@thing reboot
2002 [15:42:15] <linuxconformer> greycat: and i know full reboot
definitely works
2003 [15:42:15] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2004 [15:42:21] *** Quits: megaxlr (~megaxlr@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2005 [15:42:23] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
2006 [15:42:29] *** Quits: Linlz (~Linlz@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2007 [15:42:30] <TvL2386> greycat: cool :)
2008 [15:42:35] <greycat> add curl and ssh options to suit your
needs
2009 [15:42:36] <TvL2386> that exit status
2010 [15:42:45] *** Quits: remy^ (~remy@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2011 [15:42:48] *** Joins: watchcat (~un@replaced-ip )
2012 [15:42:50] *** Joins: Linlz (~Linlz@replaced-ip )
2013 [15:42:55] <greycat> wooledg:~$ echo $((404 & 255))
2014 [15:42:55] <greycat> 148
2015 [15:42:59] *** Joins: tymczenko (~tymczenko@replaced-ip )
2016 [15:43:12] *** Joins: megaxlr (~megaxlr@replaced-ip )
2017 [15:43:14] <shtrb> ,v modemmanager-qt
2018 [15:43:15] <judd> No package named
'modemmanager-qt' was found in amd64.
2019 [15:43:41] *** Joins: nuuuciano (~luuuciano@replaced-ip )
2020 [15:43:42] <shtrb> any idea how does judd don't see it
where it's in
replaced-url
2021 [15:44:23] *** Quits: tymczenko (~tymczenko@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2022 [15:44:38] <greycat> modemmanager-qt is the source package
name. You want the binary package(s).
2023 [15:44:49] <greycat> ,v libkf5modemmanagerqt6
2024 [15:44:50] <judd> Package: libkf5modemmanagerqt6 on amd64 --
stretch: 5.28.0-1; buster: 5.49.0-1; sid: 5.51.0-1
2025 [15:45:04] <shtrb> oh , so that not my problem thanks
2026 [15:45:05] <greycat> On the tracker page you already gave,
left hand side, under "binaries".
2027 [15:45:05] *** Joins: rsx (~rsx@replaced-ip )
2028 [15:45:24] *** Quits: Messenger_bird (~banana@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2029 [15:45:31] *** Joins: intcat (~zshlyk@replaced-ip )
2030 [15:45:53] <linuxconformer> great, i'll give that a shot
2031 [15:45:55] <linuxconformer> thanks for the help guys
2032 [15:46:06] <TvL2386> yw
2033 [15:46:38] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
2034 [15:47:07] *** Quits: mint (~mint@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2035 [15:47:21] *** Joins: mint (~mint@replaced-ip )
2036 [15:47:36] *** Joins: Raed|Laptop (~Raed@replaced-ip )
2037 [15:48:08] *** Quits: mint (~mint@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2038 [15:48:10] *** Parts: dab21 (~dab21@replaced-ip ) ("Disconnected: Replaced by new connection")
2039 [15:48:11] *** Joins: dab21 (~dab21@replaced-ip )
2040 [15:48:36] *** Quits: abff (~abff@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2041 [15:49:21] *** Quits: bites (~bites@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2042 [15:49:37] <linuxconformer> greycat: is it possible to reboot
on anything other than 200?
2043 [15:50:42] <greycat> curl can be told to convey all kinds of
information. Ask in #curl or read the man page.
2044 [15:51:15] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2045 [15:51:44] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2046 [15:51:55] *** Joins: Messenger_bird (~banana@replaced-ip )
2047 [15:52:41] *** Joins: Essadon (~Essadon@replaced-ip )
2048 [15:52:41] <colo-work> curl -w '%{http_code}\n'
2049 [15:52:47] <colo-work> is what you'll be looking for
2050 [15:53:03] *** Joins: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2051 [15:53:10] *** Joins: abff (~abff@replaced-ip )
2052 [15:53:19] <greycat> that writes the code to stdout, so he
would need to capture it and then compare it with a test expression
of some kind
2053 [15:53:32] <cusco> hello, is there a simple bin/tool to
rotate strings like rot13, but where I can specify the number of the
rotation?
2054 [15:53:45] <greycat> rot13 is /usr/games/rot13
2055 [15:53:52] <cusco> what package provides rot13?
2056 [15:53:59] <greycat> caesar is /usr/games/caesar
2057 [15:54:06] <cusco> tks
2058 [15:54:06] <greycat> ,v usr/games/caesar
2059 [15:54:07] <judd> No package named
'usr/games/caesar' was found in amd64.
2060 [15:54:11] <greycat> ,file usr/games/caesar
2061 [15:54:15] <judd> Search for usr/games/caesar in
stretch/amd64: bsdgames: usr/games/caesar
2062 [15:54:16] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2063 [15:54:25] *** Joins: Kruppt (~Kruppt@replaced-ip )
2064 [15:54:35] *** Joins: chalcedny` (~llhull@replaced-ip )
2065 [15:54:48] <greycat> rot13 is just a shell script that runs
exec /usr/games/caesar 13 "$@"
2066 [15:54:53] *** Quits: Kruppt (~Kruppt@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2067 [15:55:02] <greycat> plus 37 lines of silly comments
2068 [15:55:30] <greycat> including two DIFFERENT version control
IDs
2069 [15:55:35] <colo-work> yup, he would
2070 [15:55:50] *** Joins: tryte (~tryte@replaced-ip )
2071 [15:55:52] *** Parts: case__ (3eceedd2@replaced-ip ) ()
2072 [15:56:10] *** Joins: Kruppt (~Kruppt@replaced-ip )
2073 [15:56:27] *** Quits: chalcedony (~chalcedon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2074 [15:56:28] *** Quits: chalcedny (~llhull@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2075 [15:56:40] *** Quits: tralala (~user@replaced-ip ) (Quit: out)
2076 [15:57:06] *** Joins: Ozzyboshi_ (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2077 [15:57:07] *** Quits: Ozzyboshi_ (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2078 [15:57:19] *** Quits: oish_ (~charlie@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2079 [15:57:30] <discovered1> Is my sources.list looks fine?
replaced-url
2080 [15:58:03] *** Joins: majest1c (82efbe0a@replaced-ip )
2081 [15:58:09] *** Quits: majest1c (82efbe0a@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2082 [15:58:09] *** Joins: majest1c (82efbe0a@replaced-ip )
2083 [15:58:09] *** Quits: majest1c (82efbe0a@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2084 [15:58:09] *** Joins: majest1c (82efbe0a@replaced-ip )
2085 [15:58:27] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2086 [15:58:47] *** Joins: tarcript (~tarcript@replaced-ip )
2087 [15:58:52] <majest1c> When Im running the command
"python -m pip install jupyter" then I get an error
"prompt-toolkit 1.0.15 has requirement six>=1.9.0, but
you'll have six 1.8.0 which is incompatible" I have
googled but cannot find a fix
2088 [15:59:13] <tarcript> hello
2089 [15:59:18] <tarcript> someone can help me?
2090 [15:59:23] <tarcript> my internet in debian is very slow
2091 [15:59:27] <greycat> majest1c: start with "apt-cache
search --names-only py six"
2092 [15:59:39] *** Quits: super_gollum (~ich@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Ex-Chat)
2093 [15:59:57] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2094 [16:00:06] *** Quits: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2095 [16:00:24] <majest1c> greycat: Im getting this output;
replaced-url
2096 [16:00:49] <babilen> discovered1: Looks alright
2097 [16:01:06] <greycat> So you investigate all of the
likely-looking packages, see which ones you have installed, see
which one is version 1.8.0, see whether that one has a backport.
2098 [16:01:27] *** Joins: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip )
2099 [16:01:34] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
2100 [16:01:51] *** Quits: jetchisel (~jetchisel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2101 [16:02:17] <greycat> If there is no backport of whichever
package is giving you grief, then you have to face the hard
decisions, like whether to encapsulate your entire project in a
python virtualenv, or whether to install an upstream version of this
"six" thing system-wide.
2102 [16:02:27] <tarcript> one question
2103 [16:02:50] <tarcript> I have sid repo in my debian 9 stable
2104 [16:02:52] <tarcript> it is ok?
2105 [16:02:53] <majest1c> greycat: Why isnt there just an easy
fix, like upgrading six or something
2106 [16:02:59] <Fox> tarcript: no it's not
2107 [16:03:00] *** Quits: BeerHall (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2108 [16:03:03] <shtrb> !frankendebian
2109 [16:03:03] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random
repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and
derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone
can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and
#debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about
<reinstall>
2110 [16:03:13] <tarcript> deb
replaced-url
2111 [16:03:41] <tarcript> Fox: why?
2112 [16:03:58] <tarcript> via sid I get newest software
2113 [16:03:59] <Fox> tarcript: look what dpkg just said
2114 [16:04:16] <tarcript> Fox: the problem now
2115 [16:04:19] <Fox> then use full sid, or you'll end up
with a totaly broken os
2116 [16:04:20] <tarcript> When I quit sid repo
2117 [16:04:27] <tarcript> I have very errors
2118 [16:04:29] <greycat> You do not "quit" sid.
2119 [16:04:31] <tarcript> with dependies
2120 [16:04:34] <tarcript> remove
2121 [16:04:35] <greycat> You are on sid. It is too late to turn
back.
2122 [16:04:41] <tarcript> lol
2123 [16:04:42] <tarcript> ok
2124 [16:04:43] <greycat> You are on sid forever.
2125 [16:04:47] <tarcript> hahaha
2126 [16:04:48] <jelly> tarcript: mixing different releases is not
supported. You can't go back to an earlier release
2127 [16:04:49] <tarcript> oh yeah
2128 [16:05:33] <tarcript>
replaced-url
2129 [16:05:35] *** Joins: Namarrgon (~Namarrgon@replaced-ip )
2130 [16:05:35] <tarcript> my repos
2131 [16:05:38] *** Joins: Kirakishou (~banana@replaced-ip )
2132 [16:05:43] *** Quits: Messenger_bird (~banana@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2133 [16:05:56] <Fox> what a mess :)
2134 [16:05:57] <greycat> I'm not even going to open it.
I'm already terrified by the word "repos".
2135 [16:06:11] <tarcript> hahah
2136 [16:06:18] <greycat> People who use that word think that they
are on some flavor of Ubuntu. They add repositories from all over
the web.
2137 [16:06:23] <tarcript> sorry my english is not very good
2138 [16:06:31] <greycat> It's not about your English, which
is fine.
2139 [16:06:36] <greycat> It's about your approach to Debian.
2140 [16:06:59] <greycat> I bet some of your "repos"
have the string "ppa" in them too.
2141 [16:07:05] *** Joins: CrystalMath (~coderain@replaced-ip )
2142 [16:07:56] <tarcript> greycat: ppa where?
2143 [16:08:08] <tarcript> no no I don't have ppa
2144 [16:08:13] <greycat> Oh, was that an incorrect guess? One
point for you, then.
2145 [16:08:43] <tarcript> hehe
2146 [16:08:52] <tarcript> but now all is ok when the sid repo?
2147 [16:08:58] <tarcript> I can continue using sid
2148 [16:09:00] <Fox> you just mix stretch, strech-backports,
jessie and sid :)
2149 [16:09:01] <tarcript> and not problem?
2150 [16:09:09] *** Quits: \dev\cache (~\dev\cach@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2151 [16:09:11] <tarcript> I remove jessie now
2152 [16:09:14] <tarcript> removed
2153 [16:09:23] <tarcript> stretch, strech-backports and sid
2154 [16:09:25] <tarcript> is good?
2155 [16:09:28] <Fox> no
2156 [16:09:36] <tarcript> ok, then I change all to sid?
2157 [16:09:45] <Fox> you should have stretch+backports OR sid,
not both
2158 [16:10:00] <greycat> And it's too late for the backports
choice.
2159 [16:10:00] <tarcript> sid have included backports?
2160 [16:10:04] <Fox> you should ask somewhere else
2161 [16:10:08] <majest1c> greycat: Everything is basically
version 1.8.0 and all are installed;
replaced-url
2162 [16:10:08] <Fox> !debian-next
2163 [16:10:09] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
2164 [16:10:20] <Fox> tarcript: sid can't have backports
2165 [16:10:32] *** Joins: nasuga (~hpm@replaced-ip )
2166 [16:10:32] *** Quits: nasuga (~hpm@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2167 [16:10:32] *** Joins: nasuga (~hpm@replaced-ip )
2168 [16:10:34] *** Joins: mfrisch (~mfrisch@replaced-ip )
2169 [16:10:42] <tarcript> Fox why?
2170 [16:10:43] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2171 [16:10:47] <greycat> majest1c: well, YOU are the python guy
here, not me. Which package is the "real" one, the key
one, the critical one, the one that's actually being used for
stuff? Does that package have a backport?
2172 [16:10:57] <tarcript> Fox: what you recommend to me to do?
2173 [16:10:59] <Fox> sid always has the latest version, but it
might be broken, sid = unstable
2174 [16:11:05] <tarcript> ah ok
2175 [16:11:08] <Fox> I don't recommend anything
2176 [16:11:22] <tarcript> ok I removed backports
2177 [16:11:26] <greycat> backports are source packages taken FROM
sid and recompiled to work on stable
2178 [16:11:30] <Fox> you have 2 options: reinstall and stick to
stretch+backports or go with full sid, your choise
2179 [16:12:08] <tarcript> how I can go with full sid?
2180 [16:12:14] <tarcript> I dont will reinstall
2181 [16:12:23] <greycat> remove all non-sid sources
2182 [16:12:25] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
2183 [16:12:51] <tarcript> and why not sid and stable?
2184 [16:12:56] <tarcript> now my sistem work fine with both
2185 [16:12:59] <greycat> because they are fundamentally
incompatible
2186 [16:13:08] <tarcript> but work ok
2187 [16:13:13] <Fox> for now
2188 [16:13:16] <tarcript> ok
2189 [16:13:19] <tarcript> then I remove
2190 [16:13:21] *** velix_inuse is now known as velix
2191 [16:13:24] <Fox> but one day it will break, and you'll
be screwed
2192 [16:13:33] *** Quits: schizo (~schizo@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC - ##replaced-url
2193 [16:13:56] <tarcript> but now I have
2194 [16:13:58] <tarcript> deb
replaced-url
2195 [16:13:59] *** Joins: schizo (~schizo@replaced-ip )
2196 [16:14:05] <tarcript> sid main contrib non-free only
2197 [16:14:14] <Fox> that's ok
2198 [16:14:19] *** Joins: \dev\cache (~\dev\cach@replaced-ip )
2199 [16:14:26] <babilen> tarcript: You might want to read
replaced-url
2200 [16:14:46] <tarcript> but I have non-free only
2201 [16:14:50] <tarcript> not all is sid
2202 [16:15:03] <tarcript> deb-src
replaced-url
2203 [16:15:05] <Fox> you have main, contrib and non-free
2204 [16:15:18] <Fox> remove every non-sid line
2205 [16:15:28] *** Quits: sparklyballs (bouncy@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2206 [16:15:34] <tarcript> deb
replaced-url
2207 [16:15:34] <Fox> if you want to move to sid only
2208 [16:15:35] <tarcript> and this?
2209 [16:15:45] <tarcript> for updates
2210 [16:15:45] *** Joins: sparklyballs (~bouncy@replaced-ip )
2211 [16:15:49] <babilen> tarcript: If you track sid, you *only*
have sid in your sources.list as new versions/security fixes are
uploaded directly
2212 [16:16:18] <babilen> You might want to consider tracking a
testing/unstable mix
2213 [16:16:20] <babilen> dpkg: tum
2214 [16:16:21] <dpkg> «echo 'APT::Default-Release
"testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit
sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one
set to unstable, then apt-get update. Use apt-get -t unstable
install foo; to install foo from unstable rather than testing as
usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release:
set Preferences->Distribution.
2215 [16:16:22] <tarcript> ok I removed all
2216 [16:16:22] *** Joins: jetchisel (~jetchisel@replaced-ip )
2217 [16:16:28] <tarcript> now I have only: deb
replaced-url
2218 [16:16:33] <majest1c> greycat: I searched for the package
python-six which should be the critical one;
replaced-url
2219 [16:16:38] <babilen> But all of this should be discussed in
#debian-next over on irc.debian.org (aka irc.oftc.net)
2220 [16:16:43] <greycat> ,v python-six
2221 [16:16:44] <judd> Package: python-six on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.1.0-2; jessie: 1.8.0-1; jessie-backports: 1.10.0-3~bpo8+1;
stretch: 1.10.0-3; buster: 1.11.0-2; sid: 1.11.0-2
2222 [16:16:56] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
2223 [16:16:56] <greycat> majest1c: ... are you not on stable?
2224 [16:17:18] <tarcript> I hope my debian not crash
2225 [16:17:18] <tarcript> ...
2226 [16:17:25] *** Joins: Harvey-Pwca (~HarveyPwc@replaced-ip )
2227 [16:17:32] <tarcript> and what about
2228 [16:17:39] <tarcript> when debian 10 released?
2229 [16:17:47] <greycat> tarcript: you will still be on sid.
2230 [16:17:51] <Fox> it's already too late for you
2231 [16:17:55] <tarcript> ok
2232 [16:18:09] *** Quits: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2233 [16:18:17] <tarcript> then debina sid is like rolling release
2234 [16:18:20] <tarcript> like arch linux
2235 [16:18:20] <tarcript> haha
2236 [16:18:28] *** Joins: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip )
2237 [16:18:37] <linuxconformer> guys, i put the "start
app" cronjob, and i can find it as a process, but it
doesn't have the same effect as when i run the ./start-app
script myself
2238 [16:18:37] <greycat> It's a rolling non-release.
2239 [16:18:40] <linuxconformer> (502 vs 200)
2240 [16:19:04] <linuxconformer> any ideas what might be causing
this discrepency?
2241 [16:19:14] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2242 [16:19:18] *** Joins: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip )
2243 [16:19:32] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2244 [16:20:00] <majest1c> greycat: I'm on Debian 8.11
2245 [16:20:35] <greycat> majest1c: well, the obvious thing to do
would be to upgrade to stable. But if you can't do that, then
good news! There is a jessie-backports version.
2246 [16:20:41] <greycat> !jessie-backports
2247 [16:20:42] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Stretch (Debian
9) but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found
in the "jessie-backports" repository. See
replaced-url
2248 [16:20:50] <tarcript> my question now is
2249 [16:20:56] <tarcript> debian sid have not version?
2250 [16:20:57] <majest1c> Thanks!
2251 [16:21:01] *** Quits: tryte (~tryte@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
2252 [16:21:09] <Fox> tarcript: no
2253 [16:21:09] <babilen> dpkg: tell tarcript about enter
2254 [16:21:30] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2255 [16:21:32] <tarcript> Fox: cool
2256 [16:21:33] <tarcript> xD
2257 [16:22:55] *** Joins: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
2258 [16:23:21] *** Quits: AquaL1te (~AquaL1te@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2259 [16:24:32] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2260 [16:24:39] *** Quits: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2261 [16:25:17] *** Joins: aaii (~aaii@replaced-ip )
2262 [16:25:55] *** Joins: jarfr (~jarfr@replaced-ip )
2263 [16:26:06] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nix64bit)
2264 [16:26:30] <linuxconformer> anyone know?
2265 [16:28:41] *** Joins: Ignacy (~Ignacy@replaced-ip )
2266 [16:28:47] *** Joins: hipp (~hipp@replaced-ip )
2267 [16:29:06] *** Quits: nasuga (~hpm@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2268 [16:30:11] *** Quits: Kirakishou (~banana@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2269 [16:31:12] <jelly> linuxconformer: use a pastebin to show
which exact commands you're running to check for things, their
actual output and their expected output
2270 [16:31:51] *** Joins: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip )
2271 [16:31:53] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2272 [16:32:05] *** Joins: BOSNA (~Sokol@replaced-ip )
2273 [16:32:11] *** Quits: BOSNA (~Sokol@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2274 [16:32:18] <linuxconformer> jelly: just this one doesn't
work "@reboot /debian/projects/app/start-app.sh"
2275 [16:32:23] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
2276 [16:32:25] <linuxconformer> not sure how to find output
though
2277 [16:33:28] <greycat> Oh, so this is NOT the curl-or-reboot
check?
2278 [16:33:30] *** Quits: tarcript (~tarcript@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2279 [16:33:41] *** Quits: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2280 [16:33:42] *** Quits: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2281 [16:34:06] <greycat> Output would be emailed to the
job's owner. That's how cron has always worked.
That's why past versions of Debian used to FORCE YOU to set up
your email properly.
2282 [16:34:12] <linuxconformer> greycat: nope, this is my on-boot
script
2283 [16:34:18] <linuxconformer> oh ok
2284 [16:34:25] <greycat> Current version of Debian for some
reason lets people get away with not configuring their basic MTA.
It's horrifying.
2285 [16:34:44] <linuxconformer> oh i figured it out
2286 [16:34:45] *** Quits: Kruppt (~Kruppt@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2287 [16:34:50] <linuxconformer> apparently it needed sudo
2288 [16:34:58] <linuxconformer> even though i'm running
contab -e sudo
2289 [16:35:08] *** Parts: dab21 (~dab21@replaced-ip ) ()
2290 [16:35:18] *** Quits: s8548a (~s8548a@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2291 [16:35:25] <jelly> greycat: cron package still Recommends:
exim4 | postfix | mail-transport-agent, so it's rather hard not
to see any notice about configuring a MTA
2292 [16:36:00] *** Joins: Messenger_bird (~banana@replaced-ip )
2293 [16:37:12] <linuxconformer> i got the MTA notice
2294 [16:37:13] <jelly> linuxconformer: "crontab -e
sudo" probably does not do whatever you're expecting it to
do
2295 [16:37:15] <linuxconformer> postfix
2296 [16:37:41] <linuxconformer> jelly: yeah apparently. i thought
it allowed cron to run all jobs with sudo permissions
2297 [16:37:44] <linuxconformer> guess i was wrong
2298 [16:38:22] <greycat> If you want to run stuff in cron as
root, you either become root and then run "crontab -e"
(not recommended), or you simply use /etc/crontab (recommended).
2299 [16:38:35] <greycat> If you want to START A SERVICE AT BOOT
TIME, you can just use /etc/rc.local
2300 [16:38:52] <greycat> At least as a stopgap measure until
you're ready to write a systemd unit file for it.
2301 [16:39:18] *** Quits: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2302 [16:39:28] *** Quits: arosusi (~arosusi@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
2303 [16:39:29] *** Joins: BOSNA (~Sokol@replaced-ip )
2304 [16:39:39] *** Joins: f10 (~flo@replaced-ip )
2305 [16:39:44] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2306 [16:39:50] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2307 [16:39:53] *** Quits: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2308 [16:40:02] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2309 [16:41:12] *** Joins: laptop2 (~my123@replaced-ip )
2310 [16:41:24] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2311 [16:41:42] *** Quits: m0u (~m0u@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2312 [16:41:46] *** Joins: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip )
2313 [16:42:28] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
2314 [16:43:34] *** Quits: sstern (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2315 [16:43:49] *** Joins: m0j0dj0dj0 (~punk3r@replaced-ip )
2316 [16:44:36] <JustASlacker> how is crontab -e as root not
recommended?
2317 [16:44:46] <JustASlacker> cron does not look so easy now,
does it
2318 [16:45:07] *** Joins: broesel (~broesel@replaced-ip )
2319 [16:45:49] *** Quits: bvdk (~bvdkfreen@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2320 [16:45:50] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
2321 [16:47:41] *** Quits: hbx (~hbx@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2322 [16:47:52] <JustASlacker> crontab -e does validation, editing
/etc/crontab does not
2323 [16:48:06] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
2324 [16:48:06] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2325 [16:48:06] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
2326 [16:51:59] <FinalX> imo you should use seperate cron-files in
/etc/cron.d/ and such. much better to manage / overview what's
going on. but I do agree that the input validation of crontab -e is
nice.. however, it does put the tasks somewhere entirely different
from those system-tasks installed by packages and such.
2327 [16:52:32] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2328 [16:52:37] * JustASlacker nods
2329 [16:52:59] <JustASlacker> Id agree on putting file in cron.d.
works nice with puppet and ansible
2330 [16:53:13] <greycat> In any case, an @reboot in a root cron
job is just crazy.
2331 [16:53:23] *** Quits: HerbY_NL2 (~HerbY_NL2@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2332 [16:53:35] <greycat> @reboot is for end user stuff since end
users can't edit /etc/rc.local
2333 [16:53:37] <JustASlacker> I said crazy like, an hour ago
2334 [16:53:38] *** Joins: glaucom (~blackcat@replaced-ip )
2335 [16:54:26] *** Quits: bolovanos (~bolovanos@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2336 [16:54:55] *** Quits: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2337 [16:55:42] <JustASlacker>
linuxconfig.org/how-to-automatically-execute-shell-script-at-startup-boot-on-systemd-linux
2338 [16:55:52] <JustASlacker> Ill just leave this here...
2339 [16:56:39] *** Quits: monstar (~mitya@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2340 [16:56:57] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2341 [16:57:08] <greycat> That example really should have
"Type=oneshot" too.
2342 [16:57:17] <FinalX> I disagree with /etc/rc.local,
that's a last resort of people that don't really know how
to manage their system. The systemd approach is much healthier, and
gives you a lot of tools as well
2343 [16:57:21] *** Joins: s8548a (~s8548a@replaced-ip )
2344 [16:57:25] <FinalX> (I also disagree with the @reboot cron
btw..)
2345 [16:57:36] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2346 [16:58:13] *** Quits: Orphis (~orphis@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2347 [16:59:07] *** Quits: stefanc_diff (~stefanc_d@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2348 [16:59:36] <JustASlacker> well, /etc/rc.local has a nice old
school vibe to it
2349 [16:59:53] <JustASlacker> use that on slackware and the *BSD
2350 [17:00:01] <FinalX> if I find anyone at work using that
I'm off to grab my LART and pay a visit to their desk
2351 [17:00:01] *** Quits: Brain (~brain@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2352 [17:00:11] <JustASlacker> only confusing on systemd manages
systems
2353 [17:00:25] *** Quits: chalcedny` (~llhull@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2354 [17:00:27] *** Joins: [Brain] (~brain@replaced-ip )
2355 [17:00:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jelly
2356 [17:00:35] *** jelly changes topic to 'Debian Stretch: /msg
dpkg stretch ; /msg dpkg 9.6 ; /msg dpkg jessie->stretch ; /msg
dpkg install stretch | Oldstable: Debian Jessie /msg dpkg jessie ;
/msg dpkg 8.11 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people |
offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing, unstable: #debian-next @
irc.oftc.net | chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog'
2357 [17:00:40] *** Joins: chalcedny` (~llhull@replaced-ip )
2358 [17:00:46] <jelly> topic diff: 9.6
2359 [17:00:49] <JustASlacker> FinalX: I like your sensible
approach
2360 [17:00:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o jelly
2361 [17:01:16] <JustASlacker> a scholar and a gentleman
2362 [17:01:20] *** Quits: chalcedny` (~llhull@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2363 [17:01:35] *** Joins: hbx (~hbx@replaced-ip )
2364 [17:02:00] *** Joins: Orphis (~orphis@replaced-ip )
2365 [17:03:13] *** Quits: JustASlacker (~JustASlac@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2366 [17:03:55] *** Joins: troys (~troys@replaced-ip )
2367 [17:04:19] *** Joins: nibble_zero_two (~nibble_ze@replaced-ip )
2368 [17:04:25] <linuxconformer> jelly, i tried to put
"export VAR=XYZ" in a shell script executed by crontab,
but i don't think it's working
2369 [17:04:34] <linuxconformer> is this normal behaviour?
2370 [17:04:40] <greycat> What did you expect that to do?
2371 [17:04:57] <linuxconformer> to do the same thing that
"export VAR=XYZ && ./start-app" would do
2372 [17:04:57] <greycat> Setting a variable in a program and then
running the program does ... nothing.
2373 [17:05:20] <greycat> Did you run ./start-app in the same
script as the export? Does ./start-app CARE about this variable?
2374 [17:06:06] <linuxconformer> ok so this is normally how it
works: i run "export ..." in my terminal, and then i run
my application, and it works fine
2375 [17:06:20] <linuxconformer> so i assumed i could do the same
in a script
2376 [17:06:35] <linuxconformer> or should i do it in a single
line?
2377 [17:07:06] <greycat> Doesn't matter how many lines you
use. The variable has to be set at the time you execute the program
that USES the variable.
2378 [17:07:16] <linuxconformer> e.g. for
"start-services.sh" it should have "export ...
&& ./start-app.sh"
2379 [17:07:19] *** Quits: nibble_zero (~nibble_ze@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2380 [17:07:29] <greycat> Just putting the line export FOO=BAR in
a script and running the script does LITERALLY NOTHING. The variable
is gone after the script exits.
2381 [17:08:03] *** Quits: altin (~altin@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2382 [17:08:07] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
2383 [17:08:12] <linuxconformer> greycat: er so having
"export ...\n ./run/my/app" won't work?
2384 [17:08:37] <linuxconformer> but doing "export ..."
in one line of my terminal and then "./run/my/app" in the
next will?
2385 [17:08:41] <jelly> linuxconformer: try to do this in your
interactive shell: export VAR=XYZ && echo "$VAR"
2386 [17:08:47] *** Quits: Raed|Laptop (~Raed@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2387 [17:08:53] *** Quits: Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@replaced-ip ) ()
2388 [17:08:58] <greycat> linuxconformer: oh, now the script has
MORE THAN JUST the export in it? Yay. Progress is made.
2389 [17:09:00] *** Quits: majest1c (82efbe0a@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
2390 [17:09:14] <jelly> linuxconformer: it will not show what you
expect it to unless VAR was set even before that
2391 [17:09:20] <greycat> jelly: you might be mistaken here
2392 [17:09:39] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2393 [17:09:45] <greycat> you are probably confusing it with
VAR=foo echo "$VAR"
2394 [17:10:04] <jelly> ok, I'm wrong there
2395 [17:10:57] <linuxconformer> but running "export ...
&& ./run/my/script" should make that var accessible to
the script right?
2396 [17:11:05] <linuxconformer> (as one line in my shell script)
2397 [17:11:07] *** Joins: diogenes_ (~diogenes_@replaced-ip )
2398 [17:11:12] <greycat> yes
2399 [17:11:23] <greycat> again, does not matter how many lines
you use
2400 [17:11:30] *** Joins: amber (~luca@replaced-ip )
2401 [17:12:02] *** Joins: tymczenko (~tymczenko@replaced-ip )
2402 [17:12:04] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
2403 [17:13:11] *** Joins: fstd_ (~fstd@replaced-ip )
2404 [17:13:13] <linuxconformer> grey: er so you're saying[
1: export VAR=foo; 2: ./run/my/app ] should also work?
2405 [17:13:18] <greycat> yes
2406 [17:13:34] <linuxconformer> strange, my app wasn't
reading the export value
2407 [17:13:39] <greycat> Prove it.
2408 [17:13:54] *** Quits: tymczenko (~tymczenko@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2409 [17:14:08] <linuxconformer> well my application requires
these vars to access assets, and it's saying the path
doesn't exist
2410 [17:14:09] <greycat> Start with "ps auxwwe | grep
my/app" and see the environment that the process was actually
started with.
2411 [17:14:38] *** Quits: drzacek (~drzacek@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2412 [17:15:30] *** Joins: stefanc_diff (~stefanc_d@replaced-ip )
2413 [17:15:34] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2414 [17:15:47] <jelly> to have a look at the environment of a
running process on Linux: cat /proc/PIDHERE/environ | tr
'\0' '\n'
2415 [17:15:47] *** Quits: pvoigt (~Linux@replaced-ip ) (Max SendQ exceeded)
2416 [17:15:54] <jelly> refrain from UUOC comment, please
2417 [17:16:34] *** Quits: fstd (~fstd@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2418 [17:16:35] *** fstd_ is now known as fstd
2419 [17:16:36] <linuxconformer> ok the one-line command worked
2420 [17:16:47] *** Joins: chalcedny (~llhull@replaced-ip )
2421 [17:16:56] <greycat> jelly: given that you probably need sudo
for the cat (but not for the tr), it becomes less of a UUOC
2422 [17:17:07] <linuxconformer> so "export ... &&
./run/my/app" worked in my bash file, but "1: export
...\n2: ./run/my/app" did not
2423 [17:17:10] *** Joins: pvoigt (~Linux@replaced-ip )
2424 [17:17:22] <greycat> linuxconformer: Prove it.
2425 [17:17:40] *** Quits: msimpson (~msimpson@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2426 [17:17:40] <linuxconformer> greycat: lol my client can now
access assets
2427 [17:17:44] <linuxconformer> QED
2428 [17:17:53] <greycat> ...
2429 [17:18:08] *** Quits: michaelni (~michael@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2430 [17:18:17] <linuxconformer> is that not sufficient proof?
2431 [17:18:20] <jelly> that's a higher level symptom and
does not prove or deny env.var. being set or unset
2432 [17:18:25] <greycat> "I tried random shit and one time
it worked and one time it didn't work so obviously Trees Have
Feathers"
2433 [17:19:07] <greycat> You were told two different ways to view
the initial environment of a Linux process. Try using one of them.
2434 [17:19:13] *** Parts: BOSNA (~Sokol@replaced-ip ) ()
2435 [17:19:59] *** Quits: chele (~chele@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2436 [17:20:15] *** Joins: michaelni (~michael@replaced-ip )
2437 [17:20:25] *** Joins: BOSNA (~Sokol@replaced-ip )
2438 [17:20:26] <linuxconformer> greycat: should this be run in my
script?
2439 [17:20:32] <jelly> however, Debian's /bin/sh might know
have "export a=b" syntax?
2440 [17:20:37] <linuxconformer> (where the export is)
2441 [17:20:38] <jelly> s/know/not/ ?
2442 [17:21:08] <greycat> It's standard POSIX syntax.
2443 [17:21:32] <jelly> greycat: and I don't see it in
"man dash" on stretch
2444 [17:21:33] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2445 [17:21:56] *** Joins: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip )
2446 [17:21:59] <jelly> oh, I do
2447 [17:22:36] * jelly requires more coffee
2448 [17:22:37] *** Joins: nasuga (~hpm@replaced-ip )
2449 [17:22:51] *** Quits: nasuga (~hpm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2450 [17:23:08] *** Quits: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2451 [17:23:48] <jelly> linuxconformer: you run the check anywhere
after the misbehaving process is started
2452 [17:24:04] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2453 [17:24:56] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
2454 [17:25:04] <pagios> hi all, is there a way to record what a
user is doing on a shell ? like to monitor his work and paly back
later on ?
2455 [17:25:12] *** Quits: zyley (~zyley@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2456 [17:25:41] *** Quits: intelux (~intelux@replaced-ip ) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
2457 [17:25:43] <greycat> you can run "script" to save
your terminal stuff in a file
2458 [17:26:48] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2459 [17:27:33] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
2460 [17:28:04] *** Joins: intelux (~intelux@replaced-ip )
2461 [17:28:52] <pagios> greycat, i was thinking of tmux
2462 [17:29:00] <pagios> if i can record the tmux logs to a file
or something
2463 [17:30:50] *** Quits: tagomago (~tagomago@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2464 [17:31:39] <jelly> screen has output logging, however the
user can easily disable it
2465 [17:31:43] <pagios> like i run an ssh session, it starts
recording, i exit, it stop recording and spits out a file or
something
2466 [17:31:58] *** Quits: shtrb (~shtrb@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2467 [17:33:46] *** Quits: encod3 (~encod3@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2468 [17:33:50] <n4dir> jelly: can you quickly tell me how to look
at screens output logging?
2469 [17:34:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1416
2470 [17:34:24] <RNM> i use script to log ssh terminal
2471 [17:34:33] *** Joins: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip )
2472 [17:34:59] <greycat> I get the impression he does not want to
have to rely on the end user typing "script". He wants it
to be automatic. Most likely a secret, illegal espionage.
2473 [17:35:00] <RNM> script -a -f -q -c "ssh
user@ayamgoreng.sedap.com" /home/rnm/SSH_LOGS/ssh-$1-$(date
+%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-).log
2474 [17:35:18] *** Quits: firechief1 (~firechief@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2475 [17:35:23] <RNM> script -a -f -q -c "ssh
user@ayamgoreng.sedap.com"
/home/rnm/SSH_LOGS/ssh-ayamgoreng-$(date +%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-).log
2476 [17:35:31] <pagios> RNM, but if the user doesnt exit the ssh
shell, script will save the file or not/
2477 [17:35:59] <RNM> save, you can see if it fail or success
2478 [17:36:29] *** Quits: emucla (~emucla@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2479 [17:37:02] <pagios> RNM, the user will access the system via
ssh, and most likely wont write exit, so if i include script on the
.bashrc and he doesnt write exit the script wont save a typescript
file
2480 [17:37:24] *** beaver is now known as pipasfr
2481 [17:37:34] <RNM> yes, put it on bashrc or zshrc
2482 [17:37:36] <RNM> here
2483 [17:37:38] <RNM>
replaced-url
2484 [17:38:46] <RNM> please remove reverse port 52698. I use it
for remote sublimetext
2485 [17:38:54] <pagios> RNM, this works even when i dont finish
my commands with an exit/ even when i close putty with the X close
2486 [17:39:37] <RNM> yes
2487 [17:40:09] <pagios> so on each new command write you ssh to
that server and update the file?
2488 [17:40:18] *** Joins: czart_ (~czart@replaced-ip )
2489 [17:40:27] *** Joins: dastier (~dastier@replaced-ip )
2490 [17:41:00] *** Joins: HoSy (~HS_@replaced-ip )
2491 [17:41:02] *** Quits: h0 (~h0@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2492 [17:41:07] *** Quits: _anb (~anb@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2493 [17:41:12] <glaucom>
replaced-url
2494 [17:41:28] *** Quits: banisterfiend (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2495 [17:41:34] *** Joins: roshanavand (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2496 [17:41:38] <RNM> yes.. instead of too much asking. try it
your self
2497 [17:41:52] *** Quits: MenschZwoNull__ (~MenschZwo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2498 [17:41:54] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2499 [17:42:11] <pagios> RNM, on each new command i am getting a
new file
2500 [17:42:17] *** Joins: knx (~knx@replaced-ip )
2501 [17:42:17] *** Parts: knx (~knx@replaced-ip ) ()
2502 [17:42:26] *** Quits: soee_ (~soee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2503 [17:42:35] *** Joins: banisterfiend (~textual@replaced-ip )
2504 [17:43:27] *** Quits: czart (~czart@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2505 [17:43:46] *** Joins: MenschZwoNull (~MenschZwo@replaced-ip )
2506 [17:44:32] *** Joins: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip )
2507 [17:45:18] <RNM> nope, it eat your lifespan
2508 [17:45:29] *** Joins: mikeputnam (~mike@replaced-ip )
2509 [17:45:44] *** Quits: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2510 [17:45:44] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
2511 [17:47:09] <jelly> n4dir: less ~/screenlog.0 ?
2512 [17:47:19] *** Joins: m0u (~m0u@replaced-ip )
2513 [17:48:03] <n4dir> jelly: found something similar in the
manpage. That file doesn't seem to exist. But now i know the
feature exists, i will try to figure it out. Good hint, didn't
know t.
2514 [17:48:11] <jelly> n4dir: it's not present befofe you
enable it
2515 [17:48:15] <n4dir> as in: enable back an forth.
2516 [17:48:41] <n4dir> jelly: ah, i misunderstood then (thought
it would be enabled per default, and can be disabled). Thanks for
the info
2517 [17:48:44] <jelly> n4dir: ^a h (look for "hardcopy"
in the manual or online help)
2518 [17:48:50] *** Joins: chema (~chema@replaced-ip )
2519 [17:49:04] *** Joins: Barones (~Barones@replaced-ip )
2520 [17:49:21] <jelly> n4dir: er,sorry, no, ^a H
("log")
2521 [17:49:32] <n4dir> yeah, fine. i think i got the main idea.
2522 [17:51:28] *** Joins: firechief1 (~firechief@replaced-ip )
2523 [17:52:09] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
2524 [17:52:09] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
2525 [17:52:09] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
2526 [17:52:29] *** Quits: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2527 [17:53:49] *** Parts: chema (~chema@replaced-ip ) ()
2528 [17:53:53] <Barones> Can I use nemo with gnome?
2529 [17:54:02] *** Quits: amber (~luca@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2530 [17:54:18] *** Quits: dilema (~dilema@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2531 [17:54:43] <rant> ,i nemo
2532 [17:54:44] <judd> Package nemo (misc, optional) in
stretch/amd64: File manager and graphical shell for Cinnamon.
Version: 3.2.2-3; Size: 966.7k; Installed: 3229k; Homepage:
replaced-url
2533 [17:54:46] *** Joins: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip )
2534 [17:55:04] <rant> yes
2535 [17:55:30] *** Parts: mikeputnam (~mike@replaced-ip ) ("WeeChat 1.9.1")
2536 [17:56:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jelly
2537 [17:56:22] *** jelly sets mode: +b $a:S3xyL1nux$##arguments
2538 [17:56:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o jelly
2539 [17:57:02] *** Joins: gartt (~gart@replaced-ip )
2540 [17:57:24] *** Quits: sydney_untangle (~sydney@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2541 [17:57:38] *** Joins: JMorrison (~chema@replaced-ip )
2542 [17:57:47] *** Joins: ikochat (~yaaic@replaced-ip )
2543 [17:58:45] *** Quits: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2544 [17:59:01] *** Joins: sydney_untangle (~sydney@replaced-ip )
2545 [17:59:05] *** Joins: lxsameer (~lxsameer@replaced-ip )
2546 [17:59:14] *** Quits: Haudegen (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2547 [17:59:14] *** Parts: broesel (~broesel@replaced-ip ) ()
2548 [17:59:15] *** Quits: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2549 [17:59:47] *** Quits: sydney_untangle (~sydney@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2550 [18:00:13] *** Quits: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2551 [18:00:22] *** Joins: v01t (~v01t@replaced-ip )
2552 [18:00:46] <vadmeste> Hey, does someone use Chromium under
Debian ? It seems it doesn't support VP9 anymo(re
replaced-url
2553 [18:01:18] *** Joins: sydney_untangle (~sydney@replaced-ip )
2554 [18:01:21] *** Joins: bites (~bites@replaced-ip )
2555 [18:01:34] <jelly> vadmeste: which debian release?
2556 [18:02:22] *** Joins: Ticho (~Ticho@replaced-ip )
2557 [18:02:58] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nix64bit)
2558 [18:03:10] *** Joins: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip )
2559 [18:04:06] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
2560 [18:04:22] *** Quits: m0u (~m0u@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2561 [18:04:38] *** Quits: Ticho_ (~Ticho@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2562 [18:04:53] <sharp15> is debian compatible with secureb boot?
2563 [18:04:58] <sharp15> *secure
2564 [18:04:59] *** Quits: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2565 [18:05:46] <vadmeste> jelly: Debian GNU/Linux 9
2566 [18:05:53] *** Quits: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2567 [18:06:11] *** Joins: afuentes (~kusanagi@replaced-ip )
2568 [18:06:39] *** Quits: systemdave (dmonschein@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1)
2569 [18:06:40] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2570 [18:06:58] *** Joins: systemdave (dmonschein@replaced-ip )
2571 [18:07:40] *** Joins: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip )
2572 [18:09:02] *** Quits: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2573 [18:09:16] *** Quits: Mathisen (~Mathisen@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Someone tell this dude to not restart the servers all the
time...)
2574 [18:09:54] *** Parts: ihammers (~ihammers@replaced-ip ) ()
2575 [18:10:14] *** Joins: ihammers (~ihammers@replaced-ip )
2576 [18:10:24] *** Quits: ihammers (~ihammers@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2577 [18:10:41] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
2578 [18:11:30] <jelly> sharp15: no, the next version might be
2579 [18:12:16] *** Quits: stefanc_diff (~stefanc_d@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2580 [18:12:51] *** Quits: firechief1 (~firechief@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2581 [18:13:02] *** Joins: Scorpion2185 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2582 [18:13:36] *** Quits: Scorpion2185 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2583 [18:14:07] *** Quits: czart_ (~czart@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2584 [18:14:18] *** Joins: Envil (~envil@replaced-ip )
2585 [18:14:27] *** Joins: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip )
2586 [18:14:59] *** Quits: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2587 [18:15:11] *** Quits: hakash_ (~hakash@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2588 [18:15:11] *** Quits: diogenes_ (~diogenes_@replaced-ip ) (Quit: vergissmeinnicht)
2589 [18:15:22] *** Joins: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip )
2590 [18:15:27] *** Quits: RNM (~rnm@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2591 [18:16:34] *** Quits: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2592 [18:16:50] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2593 [18:16:56] *** Joins: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip )
2594 [18:17:27] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2595 [18:17:47] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
2596 [18:17:51] *** Joins: format_c (~koeppea@replaced-ip )
2597 [18:18:15] *** Joins: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip )
2598 [18:18:20] *** Quits: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2599 [18:19:07] *** Joins: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip )
2600 [18:19:42] *** Quits: __marco (~mg3@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2601 [18:19:46] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2602 [18:20:09] *** Joins: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip )
2603 [18:20:13] *** Quits: Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2604 [18:20:19] *** Quits: oish (~charlie@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2605 [18:20:41] *** Quits: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2606 [18:20:55] <jelly> vadmeste: I can confirm current version of
chromium:i386 (= 70.0.3538.67-1~deb9u1) shows the "WebM with
VP9 support" test as failed, but I do not know whether it
really does not support vp9
2607 [18:21:52] *** Joins: Toadisattva (~Toadisatt@replaced-ip )
2608 [18:23:42] *** Quits: format_c (~koeppea@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2609 [18:24:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1410
2610 [18:24:46] *** Joins: choice (~choice@replaced-ip )
2611 [18:25:01] *** Quits: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2612 [18:25:09] <choice> What is a good way to keep a logfile at a
certain length?
2613 [18:25:26] <choice> Like only keep the most recent 10000
lines or the most recent 1 MB in it.
2614 [18:25:51] <SerajewelKS> choice: logrotate?
2615 [18:25:59] <choice> SerajewelKS: But then I have multiple
logfiles.
2616 [18:26:00] *** Joins: Strife89 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2617 [18:26:08] <SerajewelKS> choice: only if you configure it to
have multiple logfiles
2618 [18:26:25] <glaucom> any with hybrid video card? gforce
2619 [18:26:34] <choice> SerajewelKS: What will it do if I write
line 10001 and set it to keep the logfile at 10000 lines?
2620 [18:26:43] <greycat> multilog (from daemontools) or svlogd
(from runit) are explicitly designed to maintain logs in that way
2621 [18:26:44] *** Joins: piterke__ (~piterke@replaced-ip )
2622 [18:26:49] <SerajewelKS> choice: then on the next rotation
the file would be deleted and recreated
2623 [18:26:52] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2624 [18:27:18] <choice> SerajewelKS: Hm... I could easily put
that in my application. Delete the file after 10000 lines have been
written.
2625 [18:27:19] *** Quits: piterke__ (~piterke@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2626 [18:27:19] *** Quits: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2627 [18:27:24] <greycat> Your mistaken is in using the singular,
"logfile".
2628 [18:27:28] <SerajewelKS> choice: you could but you
shouldn't
2629 [18:27:36] <choice> But it would be nicer if it is not
truncated but kept at a certain length.
2630 [18:27:38] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
2631 [18:27:38] <choice> SerajewelKS: Why not?
2632 [18:27:43] <SerajewelKS> log file retention policy should be
decided by the sysadmin and not your application
2633 [18:27:52] *** Joins: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip )
2634 [18:27:58] <choice> That is not an issue in this case.
2635 [18:28:02] <SerajewelKS> it should also not require a service
restart to implement changes
2636 [18:28:14] <choice> I am writing the application right now.
2637 [18:28:18] <SerajewelKS> choice: "But it would be nicer
if it is not truncated but kept at a certain length." <--
this is not a simple task
2638 [18:28:31] <choice> Yeah
2639 [18:28:39] <SerajewelKS> removing content from the beginning
of a file is not something any filesystem i know of supports
2640 [18:28:42] <choice> I will just delete it every 10k lines
then.
2641 [18:28:45] <SerajewelKS> so you have to "copy up"
everything else
2642 [18:28:46] <jelly> vadmeste: sorry, I did not have that one
installed. That was actually chromium:amd64 (=
69.0.3497.92-1~deb9u1). But the latest 32bit one fails that test as
well.
2643 [18:28:59] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
2644 [18:29:00] <greycat> The way svlogd and multilog work is by
logging stdin (which comes from the service) to a *series* of log
files. When one file reaches a certain length, another is opened.
2645 [18:29:00] *** Joins: Codier (~user@replaced-ip )
2646 [18:29:21] *** Quits: piterke (~piterke@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2647 [18:29:30] <SerajewelKS> choice: using logrotate with a
line/size limit and one extra logfile should work fine
2648 [18:29:55] <SerajewelKS> then if you always have at least a
10k or 1MB or whatever size window you want in the past
2649 [18:30:03] *** Quits: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2650 [18:30:35] <choice> I will just delete the log every 10k
lines. That keeps the complexity of everything low.
2651 [18:30:50] <SerajewelKS> i mean, so does farming the
complexity out to logrotate, but you do you
2652 [18:31:10] *** Quits: n4dir (~n4dir@replaced-ip ) (Quit: relax harder)
2653 [18:31:10] <jelly> choice: holding "last 10k lines"
is actually not a simple task, you either need a circular buffer,
which means a complex format in case lines vary in size, or rewrite
whole file all the time
2654 [18:31:34] <choice> jelly: Yeah. That's why I will
simply delete the log every 10k lines.
2655 [18:31:47] <greycat> but then there will be periods of time
where you have zero lines saved
2656 [18:31:58] <choice> greycat: True
2657 [18:32:03] *** Joins: _anb (~anb@replaced-ip )
2658 [18:32:11] <choice> One has to make compromises in the name
of elegance.
2659 [18:32:17] *** Joins: piterke (~piotr@replaced-ip )
2660 [18:32:20] * SerajewelKS facepalms
2661 [18:33:01] <vadmeste> jelly: it works fine with FF but not
with Chromium, it looks like VP9 support was accidentaly removed in
recent versions
2662 [18:33:12] <SerajewelKS> putting rotation in your service
even though there's a system daemon to manage rotation is not
"elegant", it's redundant
2663 [18:33:20] *** Joins: baptist (~baptist@replaced-ip )
2664 [18:33:25] *** Joins: tarcript (~tarcript@replaced-ip )
2665 [18:33:33] *** Joins: pawel1 (~pawel@replaced-ip )
2666 [18:33:54] *** Joins: slv (~slv@replaced-ip )
2667 [18:34:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1416
2668 [18:34:11] *** Quits: piterke (~piotr@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2669 [18:34:56] *** Joins: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
2670 [18:35:27] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2671 [18:35:30] <glaucom> the pirate bay is offline ?
2672 [18:35:51] <greycat> rather off topic here
2673 [18:36:18] *** Quits: pawel1 (~pawel@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2674 [18:36:27] *** Quits: madage (~madage@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2675 [18:36:27] *** Quits: pipasfr (~none@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2676 [18:36:27] <SerajewelKS> greycat: you don't get your
debian ISOs from TPB?
2677 [18:36:52] *** Joins: madage (~madage@replaced-ip )
2678 [18:37:08] *** Joins: pipasfr (~none@replaced-ip )
2679 [18:37:10] <greycat> not so far
2680 [18:37:13] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2681 [18:38:05] *** Joins: wnklmnn (~wnklmnn@replaced-ip )
2682 [18:38:58] *** Joins: oo_miguel (~miguel@replaced-ip )
2683 [18:39:50] <SerajewelKS> oops, i lost my /s
2684 [18:41:21] *** Joins: luckman212 (luckman212@replaced-ip )
2685 [18:42:20] *** Joins: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip )
2686 [18:43:06] *** Joins: Ticho_ (~Ticho@replaced-ip )
2687 [18:43:07] *** Quits: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2688 [18:43:25] *** Quits: aaii (~aaii@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2689 [18:43:48] *** Joins: emucla (~emucla@replaced-ip )
2690 [18:43:57] *** Quits: glaucom (~blackcat@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
2691 [18:45:25] *** Joins: jfoy (~jfoy@replaced-ip )
2692 [18:45:42] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
2693 [18:46:00] *** Quits: chrissl (~chris@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2694 [18:46:23] *** Joins: monstar (~mitya@replaced-ip )
2695 [18:46:32] *** Quits: Ticho (~Ticho@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2696 [18:47:31] *** Quits: choice (~choice@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2697 [18:47:42] *** Quits: jarfr (~jarfr@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2698 [18:48:41] *** Joins: chrissl (~chris@replaced-ip )
2699 [18:49:46] *** Joins: grobi (~rtng@replaced-ip )
2700 [18:49:50] *** Joins: s__ (~s@replaced-ip )
2701 [18:51:14] *** Joins: glaucom (~blackcat@replaced-ip )
2702 [18:52:06] *** Quits: s__ (~s@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2703 [18:52:12] *** Quits: grobi (~rtng@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2704 [18:52:26] *** Joins: crawler (~zz@replaced-ip )
2705 [18:53:27] *** Quits: Emmanuel_Chanel (~Emmanuel_@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2706 [18:53:30] *** Quits: jfoy (~jfoy@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: ##replaced-url
2707 [18:54:23] *** Quits: rsx (~rsx@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2708 [18:54:42] *** Quits: glaucom (~blackcat@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2709 [18:55:30] *** Joins: pzn (~pzn@replaced-ip )
2710 [18:55:35] *** Quits: dastier (~dastier@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2711 [18:57:07] *** Joins: himcesjf_ (~cesjf@replaced-ip )
2712 [18:57:55] *** Quits: him-cesjf (~cesjf@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2713 [18:58:59] *** Quits: banisterfiend (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
2714 [18:59:06] *** Joins: Emmanuel_Chanel (~Emmanuel_@replaced-ip )
2715 [19:00:28] *** Joins: yab (c6fc99e2@replaced-ip )
2716 [19:00:45] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2717 [19:00:46] *** Quits: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2718 [19:00:50] *** Quits: Barones (~Barones@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2719 [19:01:14] *** Joins: Maldito_Bendito (~Almacenes@replaced-ip )
2720 [19:01:23] *** Quits: linuxconformer (adf9228b@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ##replaced-url
2721 [19:01:30] *** Quits: tarcript (~tarcript@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2722 [19:03:06] *** Quits: intelux (~intelux@replaced-ip ) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)
2723 [19:03:11] *** Quits: Wioxjk (~Free@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
2724 [19:03:52] *** Joins: s__ (~s@replaced-ip )
2725 [19:04:00] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
2726 [19:04:02] *** Joins: chalcedony (~chalcedon@replaced-ip )
2727 [19:04:05] *** Joins: jfoy (~jfoy@replaced-ip )
2728 [19:04:35] *** Quits: kallesbar (~kallesbar@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
2729 [19:04:53] *** Joins: intelux (~intelux@replaced-ip )
2730 [19:06:17] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2731 [19:07:34] *** Joins: mspe (~mspe@replaced-ip )
2732 [19:07:42] *** Quits: lxsameer (~lxsameer@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2733 [19:08:22] <SerajewelKS> man sed
2734 [19:08:24] <SerajewelKS> oops
2735 [19:10:07] *** Quits: bachler (~bachler@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2736 [19:10:14] <jelly> I wouldn't call logrotate a daemon
2737 [19:11:11] <Ether_Man> I'm a total newb when it comes to
openldap but according to
replaced-url
2738 [19:11:11] <Ether_Man> Have I forgotten to do something with
openldap setup or what?
2739 [19:11:12] <jelly> vadmeste: kindof weird since the thing
still links against libvpx4
2740 [19:11:17] *** Joins: bachler (~bachler@replaced-ip )
2741 [19:11:18] <BCMM> traditionally a cron job, right?
2742 [19:11:55] *** Quits: iderik (~weechat@replaced-ip ) (Quit: iderik)
2743 [19:13:15] *** Joins: a_l_b (~a_l_b@replaced-ip )
2744 [19:13:24] *** Joins: Guest66485 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2745 [19:14:13] *** Joins: tagomago (~tagomago@replaced-ip )
2746 [19:14:19] *** Joins: spectralthief (~julian-bn@replaced-ip )
2747 [19:14:26] *** Joins: aliasnumber10 (~anzero@replaced-ip )
2748 [19:14:59] *** Joins: vjacob (~vjacob@replaced-ip )
2749 [19:16:16] *** Quits: lucar (~lucar@replaced-ip ) (Quit: lucar)
2750 [19:16:51] *** Quits: Treylis (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2751 [19:16:55] *** Joins: Wioxjk (~Free@replaced-ip )
2752 [19:17:12] *** Quits: monksam (~monksam@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
2753 [19:17:30] *** Joins: RebelCoderRU (~RebelCode@replaced-ip )
2754 [19:18:33] *** Joins: Treylis (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2755 [19:19:21] *** Joins: thatpythonguy (~john@replaced-ip )
2756 [19:19:30] *** Joins: Scorpion2185 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2757 [19:20:17] *** Joins: borsin (~borsin@replaced-ip )
2758 [19:20:31] *** Quits: AimHere (~David@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2759 [19:21:18] <jhutchins> Trying to get a brother printer
(HL2040) working on a stretch PC; I get errors that the filter is
i386. I have an older computer, also recently upgraded to stretch,
but upgraded from three or four releases ago. It does not have
multiarch enabled, but it runs the filters just fine. Obviously some
lingering configuration from an earlier release.
2760 [19:21:25] *** Joins: tarcript (~tarcript@replaced-ip )
2761 [19:21:26] <tarcript> hello
2762 [19:21:29] <tarcript> one question
2763 [19:21:29] *** Joins: AimHere (~David@replaced-ip )
2764 [19:21:36] <tarcript> my debian when a suspend the system
2765 [19:21:48] <jhutchins> The multiarch instructions are all
about how to _install_ cross-architecture packages, nothing about
how to run them.
2766 [19:21:51] <tarcript> I can re use ... I see black screen
2767 [19:21:54] *** Quits: spectralthief (~julian-bn@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2768 [19:21:55] <tarcript> and not re-suspend
2769 [19:22:10] <tarcript> system get blocked or freezy
2770 [19:22:18] <tarcript> sorry, my english is bad
2771 [19:22:20] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2772 [19:22:29] <jelly> jhutchins: where precisely do you see
those errors?
2773 [19:22:55] *** Joins: spectralthief (~julian-bn@replaced-ip )
2774 [19:23:03] <jhutchins> When I try to run a print job;
they're from cups.
2775 [19:23:13] *** Joins: lucar (~lucar@replaced-ip )
2776 [19:23:14] <jelly> does the job fail?
2777 [19:23:19] <jhutchins> Yes.
2778 [19:23:22] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
2779 [19:23:30] <jhutchins> At least I'm getting errors, on
jessie it just failed to print.
2780 [19:23:35] <jelly> can you show the relevant output
2781 [19:23:47] <tarcript> someone can help me?
2782 [19:23:54] <tarcript> I use debian 9 sid
2783 [19:24:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1422
2784 [19:24:05] <jhutchins> I will post it a bit later, I'm
at another computer now.
2785 [19:24:46] *** Joins: juko (~juko@replaced-ip )
2786 [19:24:48] *** Quits: RebelCoderRU (~RebelCode@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2787 [19:24:54] <jelly> tarcript: sid and debian 9 are two
different things
2788 [19:24:55] *** Joins: Baudelaire (~Baudelair@replaced-ip )
2789 [19:24:58] *** Quits: sauvin (sauvin@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2790 [19:25:03] <sharp15> did 9.6 come out in the last couple of
days?
2791 [19:25:14] <jelly> sharp15: this weekend, yes
2792 [19:25:25] <jelly> or is that "last weekend"
2793 [19:25:48] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
2794 [19:26:13] <sharp15> ok. i just did a 9.5 install like 3 days
ago and was confused by the topic.
2795 [19:26:51] *** Joins: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip )
2796 [19:26:52] <sharp15> though now i'm really confused. the
blue header at the top of irssi says 9.6 but the topic repeat in the
channel says 9.5.
2797 [19:27:08] <SerajewelKS> my understanding is that the minor
releases are just updates of the ISOs with the latest security
updates
2798 [19:27:12] <jelly> sharp15: you can just patch that up to 9.6
if you haven't already
2799 [19:27:16] *** Quits: m0j0dj0dj0 (~punk3r@replaced-ip ) (Quit: go drink with my bitches!)
2800 [19:27:27] <greycat> It's just Debian 9 plus a bunch of
updates.
2801 [19:27:38] <SerajewelKS> e.g. once you have it installed you
can just use "apt update && apt upgrade" and
you'll get the latest updates, possibly even some not included
in the 9.6 images
2802 [19:27:42] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
2803 [19:27:47] <sharp15> jelly: i just realized it was there.
i'll update it later.
2804 [19:27:47] <jelly> SerajewelKS: also, some of the
proposed-updates and most of the security update debs go back to the
main mirror
2805 [19:28:17] <sharp15> 9.5 to 9.6 works? 8.x to 9.x didn't
work so well.
2806 [19:28:31] <jelly> sharp15: it's the same release,
it's just patches
2807 [19:28:37] <sharp15> ok.
2808 [19:28:57] <jelly> for 8.x to 9.x one needs to actually read
the docs and follow the procedures
2809 [19:29:19] <sharp15> jelly: i thought i did. it works its
just really slow.
2810 [19:29:25] *** Joins: Guest24918_ (~Guest2491@replaced-ip )
2811 [19:29:25] <jelly> for 9.x to 9.x+1 one needs to apt update
and apt full-upgrade
2812 [19:29:30] <SerajewelKS> and ideally you should back up
before a major release
2813 [19:29:49] *** Quits: Guest24918_ (~Guest2491@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2814 [19:29:54] <jelly> ideally you should back up all the time
2815 [19:30:00] <SerajewelKS> well... yes, that too
2816 [19:30:06] <sharp15> that machine was getting old and i
bought a replacement. i'll reinstall after i'm done
putting debian on the new machine.
2817 [19:30:14] <jelly> or, say, once a day
2818 [19:30:27] <jelly> sharp15: there's no need to reinstall
2819 [19:30:32] <sharp15> better yet. something like git only
better.
2820 [19:30:40] <jelly> it's literally just a couple patches.
2821 [19:30:52] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: "something like
git" -- what are you talking about here?
2822 [19:31:20] <sharp15> jelly: no. i meant the machine that is
still misbehaving. (there are 3x machines in the conversation now.)
2823 [19:31:31] *** Quits: Guest66485 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2824 [19:31:35] <jelly> ahh
2825 [19:31:35] *** Joins: zleap (~zleap@replaced-ip )
2826 [19:31:42] <sharp15> SerajewelKS: nothing specific. more
change tracking in general.
2827 [19:31:49] * jelly not too sharp
2828 [19:31:55] *** Quits: kirkland (~kirkland@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Coyote finally caught me)
2829 [19:32:03] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: okay... i just can't
even figure out what you're responding to there, or what you
even mean
2830 [19:32:05] <mason> Sharp jelly sounds like something to
avoid.
2831 [19:32:14] *** Quits: mrig (~mrig@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2832 [19:33:06] *** Quits: Ericounet (~Eric@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2833 [19:33:15] *** Joins: kirkland (~kirkland@replaced-ip )
2834 [19:33:31] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2835 [19:34:05] *** Joins: mrig (~mrig@replaced-ip )
2836 [19:34:06] <sharp15> SerajewelKS: the backup comment.
historically in conversation 2 classes of backup strategy exist
monolithic snapshots and recording just the changes.
2837 [19:34:44] <sharp15> SerajewelKS: it doesn't matter as
the one i was joking about isn't anywhere to be installed/used.
2838 [19:35:07] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: ah. well, if you are
looking for suggestions... you basically described restic.
2839 [19:35:19] *** Joins: xjlk (~s@replaced-ip )
2840 [19:35:20] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2841 [19:35:23] *** Joins: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip )
2842 [19:35:46] <SerajewelKS> it uses git's
content-addressable filesystem approach to create incremental-like
backups that can be rsynced around with ease, including after
deleting old snapshots.
2843 [19:35:48] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
2844 [19:35:53] *** Joins: th_ (~th@replaced-ip )
2845 [19:36:07] <SerajewelKS> creating a backup only stores
new/changed stuff. deleting a backup only deletes what's no
longer used.
2846 [19:36:30] *** Quits: crimastergogo (~crimaster@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2847 [19:36:41] *** Quits: s8548a (~s8548a@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2848 [19:36:52] <SerajewelKS> (note the version in debian is way
old, though)
2849 [19:37:02] <jelly> SerajewelKS: does it deal with partially
changed files well?
2850 [19:37:20] <SerajewelKS> yes and no, in my experience
2851 [19:37:35] <jelly> soo, just like rsync :-)
2852 [19:37:41] <SerajewelKS> files are chunked. if a chunk was
modified, only that chunk is considered changed.
2853 [19:38:00] *** Quits: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2854 [19:38:07] <SerajewelKS> if you insert/delete bytes in the
middle then _sometimes_ it can figure out what happened, and other
times it just stores the whole file again.
2855 [19:38:25] *** Quits: Scorpion2185 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2856 [19:38:26] *** Quits: wnklmnn (~wnklmnn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2857 [19:38:46] *** Joins: rpifan (~rpifan@replaced-ip )
2858 [19:38:58] <jelly> most of the file changes I'd care
about are more appendages than middlings
2859 [19:39:05] <SerajewelKS> but after some months, in my
experience, everything kind of averages out, and usually beats
compression. we have 3TB worth of server snapshots but the
repository size is only ~100GB.
2860 [19:39:05] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2861 [19:39:15] <SerajewelKS> jelly: then yeah, it handles those
very well
2862 [19:39:30] <jelly> SerajewelKS: how many versions is that
2863 [19:39:33] *** Joins: cats13 (~cats@replaced-ip )
2864 [19:39:34] *** Quits: Thedarkb1-T60 (~Thedarkb-@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2865 [19:39:35] *** Quits: rpifan (~rpifan@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2866 [19:39:36] <SerajewelKS> let me check
2867 [19:39:42] *** Joins: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2868 [19:39:46] <jelly> and how many files on the source
2869 [19:39:56] <SerajewelKS> well there's multiple sources
2870 [19:39:58] *** Quits: zleap (~zleap@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)
2871 [19:40:03] *** Joins: Thedarkb1-T60 (~Thedarkb-@replaced-ip )
2872 [19:40:03] *** Quits: cats13 (~cats@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2873 [19:40:13] *** Joins: rpifan (~rpifan@replaced-ip )
2874 [19:40:24] <SerajewelKS> if you back up multiple systems to
the same repo, restic deduplicates across all snapshots of all
systems
2875 [19:40:35] *** Joins: Scorpion2185 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
2876 [19:40:35] *** Quits: Scorpion2185 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2877 [19:40:43] <SerajewelKS> which is great for us because the
application we run is very big, so the backups of our three
production servers entirely deduplicates the application itself
2878 [19:41:13] *** Joins: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
2879 [19:41:15] <jelly> that sounds nice for apps that replicate
themselves
2880 [19:42:01] <SerajewelKS> we were using tarballs for the DB
dumps and the systems, and we couldn't back up everything due
to space constraints. we had one day (yesterday) of the application
for all servers, and seven days of database dumps.
2881 [19:43:15] *** Joins: knstn (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
2882 [19:43:23] *** Quits: Emmanuel_Chanel (~Emmanuel_@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
2883 [19:44:04] *** Joins: a0z (~a0z@replaced-ip )
2884 [19:44:11] <jelly> I wonder how well it'd do on daily
300GB MSSQL dumps
2885 [19:44:52] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
2886 [19:45:12] *** Joins: Emmanuel_Chanel (~Emmanuel_@replaced-ip )
2887 [19:45:18] <jelly> ,v restic
2888 [19:45:20] <judd> Package: restic on amd64 -- stretch:
0.3.3-1+b2; buster: 0.9.3+ds-1; sid: 0.9.3+ds-1
2889 [19:45:52] <SerajewelKS> jelly: current stats are: 210
snapshots (all systems, not per system), 8 daily system backups, 4
daily database backups (so 12 snapshots per day), repo is 114GB of
used disk space, logical size of all snapshots before deduplication
is ... (waiting on restic stats to complete)
2890 [19:45:53] *** Joins: platvoeten (~platvoete@replaced-ip )
2891 [19:46:03] <SerajewelKS> don't use the stretch version,
it's way too old
2892 [19:46:07] *** Joins: TellMeMore (~oryn@replaced-ip )
2893 [19:46:16] <jelly> ,checkbackport restic
2894 [19:46:27] <judd> Backporting package restic in
sid→stretch/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: golang-github-cenkalti-backoff-dev (>= 2.0.0),
golang-github-kurin-blazer-dev, golang-github-pkg-xattr-dev,
golang-github-restic-chunker-dev (>= 0.2.0),
golang-github-spf13-cobra-dev (>= 0.0.1).
2895 [19:46:29] <SerajewelKS> jelly: another advantage is that
backups are encrypted and the data is organized into
"packs" of roughly the same size each
2896 [19:46:32] <jelly> ouch
2897 [19:46:56] <SerajewelKS> this means you can rclone it to e.g.
S3 or B2 and the cloud provider doesn't really have any
visibility into your backups other than "total repo size and
number of snapshots"
2898 [19:46:58] *** Joins: zyley (~zyley@replaced-ip )
2899 [19:47:05] <jelly> but it's go, so build deps and
runtime deps are very different things
2900 [19:47:06] *** Joins: Nekojimi (~jimj316@replaced-ip )
2901 [19:47:17] <SerajewelKS> jelly: the binary on github is
statically linked, i just wget it from the github releases and chmod
+x
2902 [19:47:30] <SerajewelKS> throw it in /usr/local/bin
2903 [19:47:42] *** Quits: thatpythonguy (~john@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2904 [19:47:48] <SerajewelKS> which is nice in particular since
not all of our servers are debian, either
2905 [19:47:56] <jelly> are they gpg signed by someone
2906 [19:48:25] <SerajewelKS> there's a signed SHA256SUMS
2907 [19:48:45] <SerajewelKS> the build is also supposed to be
deterministic but IIRC something broke that for 0.9.3. next build
should be back to deterministic.
2908 [19:48:46] <jelly> fairy nuff, debian isos aren't better
2909 [19:49:24] *** Joins: Itaipu_ (~itaipu@replaced-ip )
2910 [19:49:57] *** Joins: qiffan (~snipe@replaced-ip )
2911 [19:50:00] <qiffan> greatings
2912 [19:50:17] <SerajewelKS> restic has its disadvantages but the
advantages are everything i've been looking for to perform
backups of my personal owncloud server. it worked so well for me
that i suggested we use it at work (i'm the dev/sysadmin lead,
i suggested it to the COO) and we ran with it.
2913 [19:50:33] <qiffan> my dongle Wi-Fi 131 D-link doesnt look to
work default, any solution'
2914 [19:50:38] *** Joins: fjavier (~fjavier@replaced-ip )
2915 [19:50:44] <qiffan> thank you in advanced
2916 [19:51:00] <SerajewelKS> and we're able to retain over a
hundred full system backups in less space than it was taking us to
store 3 _partial_ system backups and 21 full database backups
2917 [19:51:24] *** Joins: Sveta (~sveta@replaced-ip )
2918 [19:51:31] <jelly> qiffan: what is its usb id? Run
"lsusb", paste the line for that device only
2919 [19:51:40] *** Quits: Itaipu (~itaipu@replaced-ip##) (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5+deb1+deb9u1 - ##replaced-url
2920 [19:51:41] <SerajewelKS> plus have those rcloned to S3 for
offsite recovery, which my (small) company has never had the time to
figure out how to do right
2921 [19:51:52] *** Joins: kiasan (~kia@replaced-ip )
2922 [19:51:59] <jelly> qiffan: probably needs firmware
2923 [19:52:15] <qiffan> i ve allready installed firmware-realtek
2924 [19:52:21] <qiffan> still doesnt work
2925 [19:52:42] <jelly> qiffan: did you reboot after installing
that package?
2926 [19:52:59] <SerajewelKS> jelly: regarding your question about
MSSQL backups, that i don't really know. we do full DB backups
and i pipe them through 'gzip --rsyncable' before piping
it to 'restic backup --stdin'
2927 [19:53:06] <qiffan> no
2928 [19:53:09] <SerajewelKS> jelly: it's able to deduplicate
a fair number of gzipped blocks
2929 [19:53:14] <qiffan> i ll dtry it
2930 [19:53:22] <jelly> qiffan: right
2931 [19:53:23] <qiffan> ty jelly
2932 [19:53:28] <qiffan> xD
2933 [19:53:35] *** Quits: baptist (~baptist@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2934 [19:53:43] *** Quits: qiffan (~snipe@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
2935 [19:53:51] <jelly> I don't care about compression as
tape drives are able to do that rather well
2936 [19:54:19] *** Joins: BlueByte (~walther@replaced-ip )
2937 [19:54:31] *** Joins: liamliamliam (~liam@replaced-ip )
2938 [19:54:54] <SerajewelKS> jelly: i just checked and of the
last two 768MB backups of the same database, it deemed 394MB to have
changed
2939 [19:55:16] <jelly> that's still 50% saved
2940 [19:55:18] <SerajewelKS> jelly: before i compressed them, it
deduplicated _nothing_
2941 [19:55:25] * jelly blinks
2942 [19:55:27] *** Quits: tarcript (~tarcript@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
2943 [19:55:57] <SerajewelKS> my theory on that is that gzip is
able to get some new db records into the same compressed block. and
then all of the following unchanged file content compresses the same
(with --rsyncable).
2944 [19:56:19] <jelly> wonderif pigz have --rsyncable
2945 [19:56:35] <SerajewelKS> if you insert a single record at the
beginning of the dump then it shifts everything down and restic
can't dedupe the blocks. but sometimes gzip --rsyncable is able
to get the new data to fit into a same-sized compressed block.
2946 [19:56:42] <jelly> they do.
2947 [19:56:42] <SerajewelKS> at least that's the only
explanation i have that makes any sense
2948 [19:57:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o eir
2949 [19:57:13] *** eir sets mode: -bo $a:S3xyL1nux$##arguments eir
2950 [19:57:36] <SerajewelKS> huge single-file dumps are really
where restic shines though. it's great at backing up / and only
recording what changed.
2951 [19:58:06] *** Quits: cfoch (uid153227@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
2952 [19:58:22] *** Joins: orbiter (~orbiter@replaced-ip )
2953 [19:59:15] *** Quits: xjlk (~s@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2954 [19:59:25] *** Quits: P1ersson (~P1ersson@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Älska inte din nästa, älska den du har)
2955 [19:59:29] *** Quits: lucad111 (~lucad111@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2956 [19:59:30] *** Quits: treehug88 (~textual@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2957 [19:59:55] <SerajewelKS> the primary advantage for me is that
files in the repo are immutable -- they are created and deleted but
never changed. and a backup will never change, only add. this makes
it very easy to rsync/rclone offsite only the new data.
2958 [19:59:58] <jelly> my dumps are so huge, you wouldn't
believe
2959 [19:59:59] *** Joins: mibo (~mibo@replaced-ip )
2960 [20:00:08] <SerajewelKS> might want to see a doctor
2961 [20:00:10] <jelly> but back to the backups
2962 [20:00:13] <mason> Context is critical.
2963 [20:00:20] <SerajewelKS> hah #sharedbrain
2964 [20:00:41] <SerajewelKS> you might find that for DB backups,
restic doesn't work very well
2965 [20:02:44] <SerajewelKS> at least for total dumps. if you are
using replication logs, then restic will work quite well. though
there wouldn't really be much of an advantage over just
rsyncing the replication logs themselves.
2966 [20:03:02] *** Joins: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip )
2967 [20:03:42] *** Joins: glaucom (~blackcat@replaced-ip )
2968 [20:03:58] *** Joins: semeion (~semeion@replaced-ip )
2969 [20:04:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1428
2970 [20:04:06] <glaucom> hi all I still can not make nvidia work
correctly :(
2971 [20:04:19] <glaucom> root@desktop-bb0q7t0:/home/blackcat#
optirun --status
2972 [20:04:19] <glaucom> Bumblebee status: Ready (3.2.1). X
inactive. Discrete video card is off.
2973 [20:04:30] <glaucom> any helpme ?
2974 [20:04:34] <jelly> I have a couple splunk nodes that mostly
have duplicate data among themselves, yet the app docs are horribly
sketchy about what actually needs backing up and what doesn't
2975 [20:04:46] *** Quits: Nexilva (~Nexilva@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
2976 [20:05:19] <SerajewelKS> jelly: with restic in particular
i've taken the approach of "back up all the things unless
i 100% know they aren't needed"
2977 [20:05:31] <greycat> glaucom: well, uh, exit from your root
shell first.
2978 [20:05:38] <jelly> yeah, we do that by default as well
2979 [20:06:08] <SerajewelKS> and sometimes even if i know they
aren't needed. e.g. i don't exclude .git because i have
some 150+ dev repos cloned and i'd rather spend the few cents a
month on S3 to back them up then have to figure out what i had,
figure out what the remote is, clone them all...
2980 [20:06:17] <SerajewelKS> some have multiple remotes and
i'd have to figure out that config again...
2981 [20:06:42] <glaucom> greycat: k.
2982 [20:06:55] <jelly> rule of thumb: if someone's going to
spend more than two hours setting it all back up, it needs a backup
2983 [20:07:07] <glaucom> blackcat@desktop-bb0q7t0:~$ optirun -b
none nvidia-settings -c :8
2984 [20:07:07] <glaucom> [ 1036.247256] [ERROR]You've no
permission to communicate with the Bumblebee daemon. Try adding
yourself to the 'bumblebee' group
2985 [20:07:07] <glaucom> [ 1036.247341] [ERROR]Could not connect
to bumblebee daemon - is it running?
2986 [20:07:17] <SerajewelKS> jelly: even moreso these days
considering how cheap cloud storage is
2987 [20:07:19] <jelly> that includes my kde desktop config and
firefox tabs
2988 [20:09:06] <SerajewelKS> my personal server backups,
basically all that changes each day are some logs and my maildir
2989 [20:09:16] *** Quits: glaucom (~blackcat@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving.)
2990 [20:09:18] *** Joins: qiffan (~root@replaced-ip )
2991 [20:09:20] *** Joins: baptist (~baptist@replaced-ip )
2992 [20:09:43] *** Quits: martin-_-__ (~default@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
2993 [20:09:43] *** Quits: martin-_-_ (~default@replaced-ip ) (Write error: Connection reset by peer)
2994 [20:10:35] <SerajewelKS> setting up restic has made me
realize how much i WASN'T backing up. i now have it running at
least daily on almost all of my systems. even the windows ones. even
my workstation at work.
2995 [20:11:16] *** Quits: Harvey-Pwca (~HarveyPwc@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
2996 [20:11:26] <jelly> SerajewelKS: how much does it take to
restore your firefox or chrom{e,ium} profile?
2997 [20:11:29] <SerajewelKS> the linux ones, i should be able to
actually do a full system restore onto an empty disk, chroot,
install grub, and boot into the system
2998 [20:11:43] <SerajewelKS> jelly: let me check my work computer
snapshots
2999 [20:11:46] *** Joins: PurpleM (97e06dde@replaced-ip )
3000 [20:12:02] *** Quits: ikochat (~yaaic@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
3001 [20:12:03] *** Quits: TyrfingMjolnir (~Tyrfing@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3002 [20:12:13] <SerajewelKS> i don't know if i can get that
level of detail (how much was added due to changes in a specific
path)
3003 [20:12:15] *** Joins: nix64bit (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
3004 [20:13:04] *** Quits: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3005 [20:13:47] *** Quits: yogurt2ungue (~yogur2@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3006 [20:13:52] *** Joins: IPA_ (~IPA___@replaced-ip )
3007 [20:14:02] *** Quits: IPA_ (~IPA___@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3008 [20:14:06] <jelly> the current backup system takes hours to
restore .config/google-chrome, mostly because it only does
incremental backups and storage backend is 100 tapes, so 30 days of
a backup image is stored on 30 different tapes. Sometimes upwards of
12 hours.
3009 [20:14:25] *** Quits: sharp15 (~stop_look@replaced-ip ) (Disconnected by services)
3010 [20:14:27] *** Quits: qiffan (~root@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3011 [20:14:43] <jelly> it's a backup system but perhaps not
a very good restore system
3012 [20:15:11] *** Joins: TyrfingMjolnir (~Tyrfing@replaced-ip )
3013 [20:15:40] *** Joins: czart (~czart@replaced-ip )
3014 [20:16:32] *** Joins: Harvey-Pwca (~HarveyPwc@replaced-ip )
3015 [20:16:57] *** Quits: knstn (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: knstn)
3016 [20:17:09] *** Joins: Brigo_ (~Brigo@replaced-ip )
3017 [20:17:37] *** Joins: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip )
3018 [20:17:42] *** Joins: sharp15 (~stop_look@replaced-ip )
3019 [20:19:03] *** Joins: zeroone (~zeroone@replaced-ip )
3020 [20:19:28] <sharp15> is the debian installer able to use the
existing efi partition or do i need to create a second one?
3021 [20:19:43] <greycat> it uses the existing one
3022 [20:19:56] <sharp15> even in dual boot? just checking.
3023 [20:20:05] <jelly> even in triple boot
3024 [20:20:11] <sharp15> hehe.
3025 [20:20:53] *** Joins: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
3026 [20:21:02] *** Joins: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip )
3027 [20:22:27] <jelly> efi makes it so that all the boot loaders
for all the OSes go there as executables, it's nicer than old
bios mbr boot in that regard
3028 [20:23:10] <SerajewelKS> jelly: yeah one of the things i love
about restic is that it doesn't follow the incremental model,
but still carries a lot of the advantages. there is no level 0
backup.
3029 [20:23:26] *** Joins: Nokaji (~Nokaji@replaced-ip )
3030 [20:23:27] *** Quits: platvoeten (~platvoete@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3031 [20:23:28] <SerajewelKS> you can delete the oldest snapshot
and that only discards data that was only in use by that snapshot
3032 [20:24:03] *** Joins: NeoZed (~ursu@replaced-ip )
3033 [20:24:15] *** Quits: yab (c6fc99e2@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
3034 [20:24:34] *** Quits: musti (musti@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3035 [20:24:41] <SerajewelKS> "restic forget" even has a
ridiculous number of options you can use to tailor your retention
policy. e.g. "keep at least one backup per day for the last 60
days, then at least one backup per week for the last 52 weeks, per
system+tag combination"
3036 [20:25:12] *** Joins: musti (~freenode@replaced-ip )
3037 [20:25:22] *** Quits: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3038 [20:25:38] <SerajewelKS> jelly: the last backup of my work
system done after a day in the office added 343MB to the repo, but i
know i did a bunch of package upgrades, so that's not terribly
representative of a typical day
3039 [20:25:42] *** Joins: woshty (~woshty@replaced-ip )
3040 [20:26:04] *** Quits: musti (~freenode@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3041 [20:26:14] *** Quits: aielima (~aielima@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3042 [20:26:16] *** Quits: Toadisattva (~Toadisatt@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3043 [20:26:16] *** Quits: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3044 [20:26:23] *** Quits: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
3045 [20:26:26] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3046 [20:26:33] *** Joins: Uberius (~Uberius@replaced-ip )
3047 [20:26:38] *** Joins: aielima (~aielima@replaced-ip )
3048 [20:26:41] *** Joins: Toadisattva (~Toadisatt@replaced-ip )
3049 [20:27:19] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
3050 [20:27:54] *** Joins: DammitJim (~DammitJim@replaced-ip )
3051 [20:28:14] *** Quits: PurpleM (97e06dde@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
3052 [20:28:16] <SerajewelKS> the other thing to keep in mind is
that the size of the chromium directory doesn't change much. so
if you only retain a week's worth of daily backups, for
example, then the space used by the upcoming backup is offset by the
space reclaimed by the week-old backup that will be forgotten.
3053 [20:29:06] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3054 [20:29:16] *** Quits: Slashman (~Slash@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3055 [20:29:25] *** Joins: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip )
3056 [20:29:55] <DammitJim> do you guys know of a good solution
for remote logging?
3057 [20:30:03] <SerajewelKS> i don't have any automated
forget process in place yet because all of my repos are so small,
relatively speaking, that there's no reason not to let them
grow for a bit and see how much they can hold before i need to start
discarding
3058 [20:30:09] <DammitJim> I have routers that I would like to
have send log information to a log server
3059 [20:30:12] *** Quits: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3060 [20:30:27] <DammitJim> then on the log server, I can analyze
the URLs that have been visited by the people using the routers :)
3061 [20:30:33] *** Joins: musti (musti@replaced-ip )
3062 [20:30:43] <SerajewelKS> DammitJim: logstash is a pretty
flexible solution, though a bit heavy
3063 [20:31:01] *** Quits: oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
3064 [20:31:10] <DammitJim> heavy in what respect?
3065 [20:31:21] <SerajewelKS> IIRC it only deals with obtaining
and storing the log lines. you need another solution to effectively
search, such as elasticsearch.
3066 [20:31:31] <jelly> DammitJim: pick a syslog server that you
like and configure it? How much logs?
3067 [20:31:38] *** Quits: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3068 [20:31:46] <DammitJim> I was looking at octopussy
3069 [20:32:10] *** Joins: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip )
3070 [20:32:13] <jelly> ELK stack (elasticsearch, logstash,
kibana) is roughly equivalent to commercial Splunk
3071 [20:32:14] *** Joins: m0u (~m0u@replaced-ip )
3072 [20:32:18] <SerajewelKS> DammitJim: it's one of those
"can do anything" swiss army knives so it comes with a ton
of crap you probably won't need. it has a fair number of
dependencies and uses quite a bit of RAM. but it can ingest logs
from damn near any type of system.
3073 [20:32:35] *** Joins: n4dir (~n4dir@replaced-ip )
3074 [20:32:38] <DammitJim> logstash, huh?
3075 [20:32:39] *** Quits: Kevlar_Noir (~manjaro-u@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3076 [20:32:47] <DammitJim> I've heard of kibana and
elasticsearch as well
3077 [20:32:57] <DammitJim> bottom line is I'll need to learn
one of them
3078 [20:33:09] <SerajewelKS> logstash only handles ingest and
storage, so you need elasticsearch to actually look at your data in
any meaningful way
3079 [20:33:23] <SerajewelKS> DammitJim: if you want to set up
logstash you probably need to learn all of them, they all work
together to solve different parts of the problem
3080 [20:33:32] *** Joins: asdfkl (~s@replaced-ip )
3081 [20:33:43] <DammitJim> ah, I see
3082 [20:33:48] <jelly> maybe you only need syslog-ng and grep, we
don't know your daily lines and desired retention
3083 [20:33:57] <DammitJim> so, I would need part 1 which is to
ingest and part 2 something to analyze
3084 [20:33:59] <SerajewelKS> logstash handles the ingest and
storage, IIRC elasticsearch handles indexing and search backend, and
kibana is a frontend to allow you to project the data in meaningful
ways
3085 [20:34:26] <DammitJim> I think I've heard of logstash +
kibana more than anything else
3086 [20:34:44] <SerajewelKS> if you're going to need to
analyze logs from dozens or more sources then it's probably not
a bad idea to look into it
3087 [20:34:53] <SerajewelKS> but like jelly said, a simpler
solution might also work, but we don't know enough to say
3088 [20:34:57] <jelly> DammitJim: do you have MB or GB or TB of
new logs per day?
3089 [20:35:06] *** Joins: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip )
3090 [20:35:18] *** Quits: jfoy (~jfoy@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3091 [20:35:21] <DammitJim> I don't know at this point.
I'm just trying to help a friend who wants to implement
something like this:
3092 [20:35:26] <jelly> DammitJim: do you need to keep 7 days or a
month or a year?
3093 [20:35:36] <DammitJim> he has 77 routers out there that he
wants to have ship logs to a central server
3094 [20:35:45] <DammitJim> so, I don't know the volume
3095 [20:35:56] <SerajewelKS> that's probably on the level
where logstash + kibana would easily pay off
3096 [20:36:02] *** Joins: jfoy (~jfoy@replaced-ip )
3097 [20:36:03] <DammitJim> what he wants to do is search through
the logs and identify inappropriate visited URLs
3098 [20:36:08] <DammitJim> I have no idea how he is going to do
that piece
3099 [20:36:43] <DammitJim> he'll have to somehow map what
router is where to then manage it remotely and blacklist such URLs
3100 [20:36:58] <SerajewelKS> if he's not against paying for
a managed service, AWS CloudWatch Logs might be sufficient for his
needs, if he can get the cloudwatch logs agent on the routers
3101 [20:37:00] *** Quits: JMorrison (~chema@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3102 [20:37:09] *** Quits: asdfkl (~s@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3103 [20:37:11] <SerajewelKS> they charge per GB ingested and
GB-month stored
3104 [20:37:22] <SerajewelKS> it might cost less than building a
logstash server
3105 [20:37:22] <DammitJim> he looked into it and that's not
possible unfortunately, but a great idea!
3106 [20:37:27] <SerajewelKS> aw, sucks
3107 [20:37:31] *** Quits: Wioxjk (~Free@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3108 [20:37:33] *** Quits: wall4ss (~smuxi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
3109 [20:37:44] <jelly> azure has similar services
3110 [20:38:10] <SerajewelKS> we use AWS to ingest GBs of nginx
logs daily
3111 [20:38:24] *** Joins: Shahnaz_ (~Shahnaz@replaced-ip )
3112 [20:38:41] <SerajewelKS> and then a lambda to sort out which
client is responsible for what log entry, for billing traffic
consumption
3113 [20:39:04] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
3114 [20:39:22] <sharp15> is 20GB enough for / if i'm using a
separate partition for /home?
3115 [20:39:29] <jelly> sharp15: yes
3116 [20:39:36] <greycat> Depends on what you do with your system,
but usually yes.
3117 [20:39:46] *** Quits: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3118 [20:40:11] <sharp15> the root is just there to support
whatever is going on in the home directory. its not a server.
3119 [20:40:28] <SerajewelKS> as in, it depends what you're
going to install
3120 [20:40:48] *** Joins: pity_ (~pity@replaced-ip )
3121 [20:40:50] <DammitJim> sharp15, I know you don't want to
hear this, but that all depends. I know, it sucks 'cause you
just want an answer
3122 [20:40:51] *** Joins: xcm (~xcm@replaced-ip )
3123 [20:40:58] <SerajewelKS> e.g. if you install libreoffice and
all of gnome and a bazillion other things then 20 might not be
enough. but if you don't install very much than 5 might even be
_too_ much.
3124 [20:41:09] <SerajewelKS> then*
3125 [20:41:12] <DammitJim> What I've done since then,
I've started to use LVM to move available space around
3126 [20:42:01] <SerajewelKS> i just have a single /. haven't
needed separate volumes for a long time, except in the case of (1)
external volumes, and (2) different redundancy requirements (raid1
vs no redundancy, for example).
3127 [20:42:04] <DammitJim> when I got the laptop I'm
currently writing you from, I allocated 10GB and I'm starting
to run out of space on the root partition 'cause I don't
have a var or usr partition
3128 [20:42:15] *** Quits: Shahnaz (~Shahnaz@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3129 [20:42:32] *** Parts: zeroone (~zeroone@replaced-ip ) ()
3130 [20:42:34] *** Quits: st-gourichon-fid (~Stephane@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
3131 [20:42:35] <SerajewelKS> though i do have a separate /boot
since grub is flaky booting from / in LVM in dmraid
3132 [20:42:48] <jelly> DammitJim: how many old kernels do you
keep?
3133 [20:42:49] *** Joins: st-gourichon-fid (~Stephane@replaced-ip )
3134 [20:43:07] *** Quits: pity (~pity@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3135 [20:43:22] <jelly> I have 1GB just in /lib/modules here
3136 [20:43:36] <SerajewelKS> personally i keep the current + last
working
3137 [20:43:47] <SerajewelKS> which is the default policy if you
apt autoremove
3138 [20:43:53] *** Joins: testuser (~testuser@replaced-ip )
3139 [20:43:56] *** Quits: traveltissues (~traveltis@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
3140 [20:44:07] <DammitJim> jelly, where do I look for that?
3141 [20:44:15] *** Quits: llucenic (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3142 [20:44:19] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
3143 [20:44:24] <SerajewelKS> dpkg -l linux-kernel-\*
3144 [20:44:25] <dpkg> ii linux-kernel-\* 3.6-1.3
serajewelks's private porn collection
3145 [20:44:31] <SerajewelKS> nice
3146 [20:44:33] *** Joins: zleap (~zleap@replaced-ip )
3147 [20:44:33] *** Quits: zleap (~zleap@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3148 [20:44:33] *** Joins: zleap (~zleap@replaced-ip )
3149 [20:45:13] *** Quits: musti (musti@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3150 [20:45:24] <jelly> SerajewelKS: debian sometimes keeps the
same kernel ABI and destroys the "last working" kernel on
package upgrades
3151 [20:45:30] <greycat> 376M /lib/modules here, with just two
kernels installed
3152 [20:45:35] <ghoti> is quagga a good choice these days as a
route reflector? I'm looking to set up something that'll
talk to my primary upstream and peers at my IX, and provide those
routes to two FreeBSD-based routers. Not sure of the terminology I
should be looking for in my search for documentation and examples.
3153 [20:45:50] <sharp15> ext4 for an SSD or is there something
special?
3154 [20:45:54] <SerajewelKS> jelly: ah, hmm. well, in any case,
kernel breakages are so rare that i don't really worry to much.
if necessary i can boot from the installer and manually reinstall an
older kernel.
3155 [20:46:05] *** Joins: Barones (~Barones@replaced-ip )
3156 [20:46:06] <SerajewelKS> too* much, good grief what's
with my english today
3157 [20:46:45] *** Joins: Slashman (~Slash@replaced-ip )
3158 [20:46:50] <jelly> sharp15: ext4 is fine
3159 [20:47:37] <jelly> ghoti: ask in ##networking in case noone
has a comment here
3160 [20:47:39] *** Joins: IR98765 (~Mp3t4@replaced-ip )
3161 [20:47:52] <ghoti> jelly: thanks, good suggestion. :)
3162 [20:48:06] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
3163 [20:48:16] *** Quits: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3164 [20:48:44] *** Joins: par (~par@replaced-ip )
3165 [20:49:05] *** Joins: Xiphoid (Xiphoid@replaced-ip )
3166 [20:49:36] *** Quits: n_1-c_k (~nick@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3167 [20:49:44] *** Quits: tempora (~tempus@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Bouncing away)
3168 [20:50:11] *** Joins: tempora (~tempus@replaced-ip )
3169 [20:50:12] *** Joins: n_1-c_k (~nick@replaced-ip )
3170 [20:50:14] *** Quits: Baudelaire (~Baudelair@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3171 [20:50:33] *** Joins: musti (musti@replaced-ip )
3172 [20:50:33] *** Quits: m0u (~m0u@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3173 [20:50:38] *** Quits: jfoy (~jfoy@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
3174 [20:50:40] *** Joins: AquaL1te (~AquaL1te@replaced-ip )
3175 [20:52:07] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3176 [20:52:18] *** Quits: baptist (~baptist@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3177 [20:52:25] <DammitJim> jelly, where do I see what kernels I
have kept?
3178 [20:52:45] <SerajewelKS> DammitJim: what i said above: dpkg
-l linux-kernel-\*
3179 [20:52:52] <SerajewelKS> any line starting with "i"
is installed
3180 [20:53:35] *** Joins: Wioxjk (~Free@replaced-ip )
3181 [20:53:48] <SerajewelKS> "apt autoremove" should
remove all except your current and prior kernels, as well as any
other packages that were auto-installed but nothing installed
depends on them
3182 [20:53:50] <greycat> technically, any line with i in the
second column
3183 [20:53:58] <greycat> "hi" is also installed
3184 [20:54:02] *** Parts: IR98765 (~Mp3t4@replaced-ip ) ()
3185 [20:54:06] <SerajewelKS> right
3186 [20:54:07] <DammitJim> sorry, I missed that
3187 [20:54:21] *** Quits: bites (~bites@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
3188 [20:54:34] <DammitJim> weird... mine must be broken
3189 [20:55:03] <SerajewelKS> broken?
3190 [20:55:06] <DammitJim>
replaced-url
3191 [20:55:17] <DammitJim> oh, I've done apt autoremove
before
3192 [20:55:35] <SerajewelKS> my bad, it's linux-image
3193 [20:56:08] <SerajewelKS> the kernel package prefix has
changed since i've started using debian so i can never remember
what it is today
3194 [20:56:09] *** Joins: baptist (~baptist@replaced-ip )
3195 [20:56:25] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
3196 [20:56:32] <jelly> used to be kernel-image-. Still, noone
else noticed.
3197 [20:56:40] *** Quits: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3198 [20:56:54] <SerajewelKS> that's right. then my brain
blends the old and new name together.
3199 [20:57:10] *** Joins: kunwon1 (~kunwon1@replaced-ip )
3200 [20:57:19] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
3201 [20:57:47] <jelly>
/usr/src/debs/kernel-image-2.4.20-rc1_jelly.0_i386.deb
3202 [20:57:58] *** Quits: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3203 [20:58:13] *** Joins: de-facto (~de-facto@replaced-ip )
3204 [20:58:25] <jelly> oh that isn't even the oldest one
3205 [20:59:08] <jelly> -rw-r--r-- 1 root src 1214178 Jun 27 2001
/usr/src/debs/kernel-image-2.4.5-ac18_burek.0_i386.deb # back when a
certain ac managed _the_ useful tree
3206 [20:59:36] <DammitJim>
replaced-url
3207 [20:59:38] <DammitJim> how bad am I looking?
3208 [20:59:39] <greycat> !alan cox
3209 [20:59:39] <dpkg> it has been said that alan cox is just
about 3/4 deity or is found in
replaced-url
3210 [20:59:56] *** Joins: clemens3 (~clemens@replaced-ip )
3211 [21:00:09] <greycat> I think there's a picture of an
alot of beer...
3212 [21:00:10] <SerajewelKS> i started using linux in early...
2001? so 2.0 is the first i remember. but i didn't switch to
debian until after 2002 because woody was my first debian release.
3213 [21:00:15] *** Quits: SchneeSchwarz (~schnee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)
3214 [21:00:23] *** Joins: pringau (~pringau@replaced-ip )
3215 [21:00:31] <jelly> kudos to lwn for keeping that URL working
3216 [21:00:45] <SerajewelKS> DammitJim: you only have 3 kernels
installed. apt autoremove should remove the oldest of those.
3217 [21:00:45] <greycat> the ALOT OF BEER CANS is at
replaced-url
3218 [21:01:02] *** Quits: wilkc (~wilkc@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3219 [21:01:05] *** Quits: pringau (~pringau@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3220 [21:01:20] <greycat> Since it's a historic factoid, I
think I'll leave the grammar unfixed.
3221 [21:01:40] *** Quits: krabador (~krabador@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3222 [21:02:03] *** Quits: par (~par@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3223 [21:02:17] <jelly> !factinfo alan cox
3224 [21:02:17] <dpkg> alan cox -- last modified at Sat Jul 8
21:10:37 2000 by bugg!glycoluril@c705742-a.htfdw1.ct.home.com; it
has been requested 28 times, last by greycat, 2m 38s ago.
3225 [21:02:30] *** Joins: krabador (~krabador@replaced-ip )
3226 [21:02:58] <jelly> that factoid can in fact vote and drink
alcoholic beverages legally around here
3227 [21:03:08] *** Joins: fassl (~fassl@replaced-ip )
3228 [21:03:57] <jelly> DammitJim: and presumably you know about,
and run "apt autoclean" or even "apt clean"
regularly
3229 [21:04:48] *** Joins: platvoeten (~platvoete@replaced-ip )
3230 [21:05:43] *** Quits: a0z (~a0z@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
3231 [21:06:10] *** Joins: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip )
3232 [21:06:38] *** Quits: pipasfr (~none@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3233 [21:06:39] *** Quits: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3234 [21:06:59] *** Joins: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip )
3235 [21:08:11] *** Quits: shabius (~shabius@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3236 [21:08:55] *** Quits: Slashman (~Slash@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3237 [21:09:19] *** Quits: Envil (~envil@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3238 [21:09:36] *** Joins: pringau (~pringau@replaced-ip )
3239 [21:10:17] *** Joins: MACscr (~MACscr@replaced-ip )
3240 [21:10:42] *** Joins: shabius (~shabius@replaced-ip )
3241 [21:10:46] *** Quits: juko (~juko@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3242 [21:11:29] *** Joins: SchneeSchwarz (~schnee@replaced-ip )
3243 [21:11:39] <annadane> why can i not create
.config/openbox/autostart by nano .config/openbox/autostart and
filling it up with stuff? Error writing .config/openbox/autostart:
No such file or directory
3244 [21:12:05] *** Joins: banisterfiend (~textual@replaced-ip )
3245 [21:12:14] <greycat> you have to mkdir ~/.xonfig/openbox
first
3246 [21:12:20] <greycat> err, minus the typo
3247 [21:12:29] <mason> and then ln -s .xonfig .config
3248 [21:12:46] *** Joins: dkmueller (~dkmueller@replaced-ip )
3249 [21:12:47] *** Quits: czart (~czart@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3250 [21:12:49] * mason hides.
3251 [21:12:54] <greycat> more like mv .xonfig/* .config/
3252 [21:13:46] *** Joins: thatpythonguy (~john@replaced-ip )
3253 [21:14:01] *** Joins: paulgrmn (~paulgrmn@replaced-ip )
3254 [21:14:02] *** Joins: nuno_nunes (~PC@replaced-ip )
3255 [21:14:03] *** Joins: cdown (~cdown@replaced-ip )
3256 [21:14:07] *** Joins: aleagori (~isin@replaced-ip )
3257 [21:14:23] *** Quits: pringau (~pringau@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3258 [21:14:44] *** Quits: testuser (~testuser@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3259 [21:14:50] <n4dir> you might also cp -r /etc/xdg/openbox
~/.config
3260 [21:15:04] <n4dir> then you got the other files in place, to
fiddle with (if you want)
3261 [21:15:08] *** Quits: s__ (~s@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
3262 [21:16:00] *** Joins: pringau (~pringau@replaced-ip )
3263 [21:16:01] *** Quits: nuuuciano (~luuuciano@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3264 [21:16:32] <annadane> wouldn't i cp /etc/xdg/openbox to
.config/openbox and not just .config?
3265 [21:16:32] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
3266 [21:16:42] *** Joins: ChmEarl (~chmearl@replaced-ip )
3267 [21:17:01] *** Quits: pringau (~pringau@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3268 [21:17:06] <greycat> depends on whether that cp -r commands
creates openbox or not
3269 [21:17:06] <mason> annadane: you want to have
.config/openbox/rc.xml anyway
3270 [21:17:08] <jelly> annadane: you'd eitther copy the
directory to .config or copy its contents to .config/openbox
3271 [21:17:10] *** Joins: foob4r (~none@replaced-ip )
3272 [21:17:27] *** Joins: pringau (~pringau@replaced-ip )
3273 [21:17:31] *** Quits: SchneeSchwarz (~schnee@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)
3274 [21:17:33] <jelly> annadane: cp /etc/xdg/openbox to
.config/openbox is probably neither of those options
3275 [21:17:44] <greycat> I barely remember how to arrange the
arguments (to slash or not to slash) for rsync, let alone things I
never use like cp -r
3276 [21:17:55] *** Joins: SchneeSchwarz (~schnee@replaced-ip )
3277 [21:18:19] <jelly> rsync has some logic and consistency there
3278 [21:18:24] <jelly> unlike ln
3279 [21:18:29] *** Joins: a0z (~a0z@replaced-ip )
3280 [21:18:31] *** Joins: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip )
3281 [21:18:42] <annadane> okay, it just puts it into the
previously created .config/openbox
3282 [21:18:44] <SerajewelKS> jelly: restic stats finally
finished. we have 4.015 TB of logical snapshots in that 114 GB
restic repository. that's a 35:1 dedupe ratio.
3283 [21:19:02] <n4dir> greycat: cp -r copies the directory
openbox in .config, which already should exist. Well: i think.
3284 [21:19:03] *** Joins: ZombiePig (~ZombiePig@replaced-ip )
3285 [21:19:21] <jelly> SerajewelKS: how many files and versions
tho :-)
3286 [21:21:13] *** Quits: MrAlexandr0 (~MrAlexand@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
3287 [21:21:26] *** Quits: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3288 [21:21:37] *** Quits: SchneeSchwarz (~schnee@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3289 [21:21:49] *** Joins: SchneeSchwarz (~schnee@replaced-ip )
3290 [21:22:41] <SerajewelKS> jelly: 120 snapshots (total, not per
system), about a month's worth; we started using restic a month
ago. the most recent backup of a typical system reports 445,166
filesystem nodes (includes directories).
3291 [21:22:48] <ryouma> restic sounds like obnam. can it be
restored without it being installed?
3292 [21:22:48] *** Joins: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip )
3293 [21:22:48] *** Quits: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3294 [21:22:48] *** Joins: karakedi (~eAC53C340@replaced-ip )
3295 [21:22:50] <SerajewelKS> eyeballing the restic repo, it grows
by a few GB per day
3296 [21:22:59] *** Joins: sofia07 (~sofia@replaced-ip )
3297 [21:23:20] <sofia07> hello - can anyone help me get into this
repo = I want to see what options are tehre
3298 [21:23:21] <SerajewelKS> ryouma: no, but restic doesn't
have to be installed on the system where the repository is stored.
it can access a remote repository over HTTP, SSH, other object
stores like S3 and B2.
3299 [21:23:28] <sofia07>
replaced-url
3300 [21:23:36] <SerajewelKS> ryouma: and due to a cooperating
protocol, any backend that rclone can talk to
3301 [21:23:52] *** Joins: MrAlexandr0 (~MrAlexand@replaced-ip )
3302 [21:24:04] <greycat> sofia07: ask whoever set it up for the
documentation
3303 [21:24:43] <SerajewelKS> ryouma: the restic client is a
single statically-linked go binary, so you don't have to worry
about dependencies, either
3304 [21:24:54] <ryouma> i will stick with rsnapshot, which only
does hardlinking and not deduplication, but can be restored without
any unusual tools
3305 [21:24:57] <jelly> SerajewelKS: so about 30 versions of 400k
files on approximately 4 machines
3306 [21:25:16] <ryouma> who knows if restic or go will exist in
15y
3307 [21:25:19] <SerajewelKS> jelly: 8 machines. 4 application
servers and 4 database servers.
3308 [21:25:32] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
3309 [21:25:49] *** Quits: olegfusion (~olegfusio@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3310 [21:25:55] <ryouma> i think obnam might be restorable without
special tools with some effort but not sure
3311 [21:26:00] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3312 [21:26:02] <SerajewelKS> ryouma: sure, whatever works for
you. the advantage to restic for me is that backups can be
rsync'd to storage backends that may not understand hardlinks,
and all content is encrypted.
3313 [21:26:10] * jelly wants his backup software be able to deal with
30 versions of 100M files
3314 [21:26:33] *** Joins: enoq (~enoq@replaced-ip )
3315 [21:27:10] <ryouma> if they don't move around rsnapshot
is good there but if they do you need dedup
3316 [21:27:10] <SerajewelKS> jelly: restic uses a very similar
structure as git. a snapshot object references a tree object. trees
contain a listing of their contents, and a reference to another tree
for a subdirectory or a chain of blob objects for files.
3317 [21:27:22] <jelly> ryouma: rsnapshot or some other rsync
wrapper is fine until you realize how much space things occupy
3318 [21:27:22] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
3319 [21:27:25] <SerajewelKS> jelly: so a change in a file only
affects that file's blob chain, and the tree objects up to the
root
3320 [21:27:27] *** Joins: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip )
3321 [21:27:38] <jelly> SerajewelKS: I hope it has a working fsck
3322 [21:27:47] <SerajewelKS> jelly: it has "restic
check" yes
3323 [21:28:09] *** Quits: sm0x (~sm0x@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3324 [21:28:45] *** Quits: fassl (~fassl@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3325 [21:28:53] <SerajewelKS> i've seen forum posts where
it's been used to recover from a broken state successfully.
e.g. if rsync somehow manages to catch a new snapshot but not all of
its data (syncing while a backup is running) then you have a
snapshot that has missing blobs. check will detect this. then restic
find can be used to locate the bad snapshot.
3326 [21:29:03] *** Quits: RaiNerTsuFal (~RaiNerTsu@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3327 [21:29:12] *** Joins: fassl (~fassl@replaced-ip )
3328 [21:29:19] <SerajewelKS> then you can forget the snapshot and
prune the extra data. or, simply, rsync again to get the missing
data.
3329 [21:29:27] *** Joins: jfoy (~jfoy@replaced-ip )
3330 [21:29:39] *** Joins: sm0x (~sm0x@replaced-ip )
3331 [21:30:17] <jelly> so one needs to take a cold snapshot of
the backend to make a consistent backup (of this backup system).
This isn't unusual.
3332 [21:31:01] <SerajewelKS> jelly: not necessarily. another
working approach is to sync the snapshots directory first, then sync
everything else. if there is a running backup, the worst case
scenario is that you have extra data that isn't referenced.
3333 [21:31:06] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3334 [21:31:23] *** Joins: DaVinciCode1 (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip )
3335 [21:31:49] <SerajewelKS> and it's only a problem if the
backup finishes while rsync is scanning the source, AND it scans the
snapshots directory after the data directory.
3336 [21:32:04] *** Quits: DaVinciCode1 (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3337 [21:32:06] *** Joins: faw (~faw@replaced-ip )
3338 [21:32:09] *** Joins: G3ph4z (~G3ph4z@replaced-ip )
3339 [21:32:41] *** Joins: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip )
3340 [21:32:43] *** Joins: DaVinciCode2 (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip )
3341 [21:33:00] <SerajewelKS> in practice it winds up not being a
problem, mostly because the next sync will bring in the missing
data. if you have to recover, then the situation is pretty much the
same between "got the snapshot but not the data" and
"got the data but not the snapshot" -- either way the
in-progress backup isn't 100% there. the only difference is
that if you get the snapshot without the data, you have a bit of
3342 [21:33:06] <SerajewelKS> manual cleanup to make the repo
happy.
3343 [21:33:13] <annadane> interesting that i put redshift in
.confg/openbox/autostart and then it also appears as an entry in
.config/autostart
3344 [21:33:20] <annadane> i presume it's not starting twice
3345 [21:33:29] <SerajewelKS> which boils down to finding the bad
snapshot and removing it
3346 [21:33:48] *** Quits: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
3347 [21:34:00] *** Joins: l1nuxg33k (uid322116@replaced-ip )
3348 [21:34:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1436
3349 [21:34:15] <annadane> i only have the one icon and the GUI
shows the temperature, so it's not conflicting
3350 [21:34:28] *** Quits: DaVinciCode2 (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3351 [21:34:53] <SerajewelKS> basically if you sync during a
backup, you have to expect that you won't have that backup when
the sync finishes. if you can tolerate that, then it doesn't
much matter if the repo passes an fsck because the only damage will
be the presence of an incomplete backup.
3352 [21:34:53] *** Joins: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip )
3353 [21:35:54] <sharp15> is a 9.5 netinst stick unusable now?
3354 [21:36:00] <annadane> nope
3355 [21:36:02] <greycat> No, don't be silly.
3356 [21:36:10] <annadane> you'd just need to upgrade the
packages later
3357 [21:36:11] <greycat> Any 9.x installer will install stretch.
3358 [21:36:12] *** Quits: pzn (~pzn@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
3359 [21:36:12] <SerajewelKS> in our case we have the sync process
for offsite backups run a few hours after the last system backup is
scheduled
3360 [21:36:15] <sharp15> the install just failed. i was just
checking.
3361 [21:36:19] <ryouma> iiuc any 9 iso is good. just update and
upgrade.
3362 [21:36:24] <annadane> okay, how did it fail?
3363 [21:36:46] <sharp15> the installer didn't give any
details. it just said "the package install failed"
3364 [21:37:05] <sharp15> its re-running. if it fails again
i'll tell you.
3365 [21:37:12] *** Quits: hanasaki (~hanasaki@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3366 [21:38:01] <SerajewelKS> jelly: anyway we might be getting a
tad out there for #debian. feel free to PM if you have any other
questions about it. i've used it extensively for a month on a
variety of systems, and have tinkered with all of the commands so i
at least have practice with quite a bit of scenarios.
3367 [21:38:24] <annadane> personally i'm always updating my
sticks with the latest netinst, that's just personal preference
3368 [21:38:51] <sharp15> i would. but i was in a hurry when i
started this.
3369 [21:38:58] <SerajewelKS> annadane: unless the installer was
patched, that's kind of a waste of time, TBH
3370 [21:39:18] <annadane> i know it's a waste of time, i
still do it anyway, it's nice to not have to update the kernel
later
3371 [21:39:50] <SerajewelKS> it's a netinst; isn't the
kernel fetched from the repos if there's a newer one?
3372 [21:40:30] <annadane> nope
3373 [21:40:41] <greycat> I think the kernel is an exception here.
3374 [21:40:43] <annadane> if there's a kernel upgrade you
need to do it manually after the netinst
3375 [21:40:45] <sharp15> ok. different error this time.
"grub-install dummy failed"
3376 [21:41:00] <greycat> Go to the logs window (Alt-F4 I think)
and see what happened.
3377 [21:41:02] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
3378 [21:41:02] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3379 [21:41:02] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
3380 [21:41:05] <SerajewelKS> well TIL
3381 [21:41:09] *** Joins: Zerock (~0ck@replaced-ip )
3382 [21:41:28] <SerajewelKS> at any rate, using the latest
netinstall patch doesn't guarantee that there wasn't a
kernel update after the patch
3383 [21:41:43] *** Quits: Namarrgon (~Namarrgon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
3384 [21:42:08] <sharp15> greycat: it was ctrl-alt-f4. you had me
worried there.
3385 [21:42:26] *** Quits: crawler (~zz@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)
3386 [21:42:32] <greycat> When you are not in X11, Alt-F4 and
Ctrl-Alt-F4 both do the same thing.
3387 [21:42:41] *** Quits: enoq (~enoq@replaced-ip ) (Quit: enoq)
3388 [21:42:49] *** Joins: enoq_ (~enoq@replaced-ip )
3389 [21:42:54] *** Quits: jfoy (~jfoy@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
3390 [21:42:56] <sharp15> actually it didn't do that.
i'm using the graphical installer.
3391 [21:43:02] <greycat> ... ugh.
3392 [21:43:18] <greycat> I will have to learn that this is a
thing, and that some people actually use it.
3393 [21:43:18] <annadane> welcome to the 2000's, greycat. :P
3394 [21:43:48] <Zerock> I've installed Debian 9.5 for i386
on an old Dell Inspiron 1012. After successful installation, the
system hangs on boot. In quiet mode, I get an ACPI namespace error.
If I disable quiet mode, it appears to be hanging while loading
screen backlight settings. Any idea what's going on?
3395 [21:43:52] *** Joins: DaVinciCode1 (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip )
3396 [21:44:04] *** Joins: yonder (~yonder@replaced-ip )
3397 [21:44:16] <sharp15> it says "grub-install: error:
attempt to install to encrypted disk without cryptodisk enabled. Set
'GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" in file
'/etc/default/grub'.
3398 [21:44:36] *** Quits: DaVinciCode1 (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3399 [21:44:44] <sharp15> and then again that "dummy
failed" line fram before.
3400 [21:44:45] *** Quits: baptist (~baptist@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3401 [21:44:57] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: are you using encryption, i
would suggest using a separate /boot partition
3402 [21:45:16] <sharp15> SerajewelKS: is the UEFI partition
insufficient?
3403 [21:45:16] <SerajewelKS> which should not be encrypted
3404 [21:45:29] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: the UEFI partition only
contains grub, not the kernel
3405 [21:45:45] *** Joins: DaVinciCode2 (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip )
3406 [21:45:48] *** Quits: Ignacy (~Ignacy@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3407 [21:45:52] <sharp15> ok. then i will have to repartition and
start over.
3408 [21:46:12] *** Quits: BlueByte (~walther@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
3409 [21:46:26] <SerajewelKS> my systems tend to have: optional
UEFI or BIOS boot partition as required, /boot, LVM[/, swap]
3410 [21:46:33] *** Quits: enoq_ (~enoq@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3411 [21:46:39] <SerajewelKS> if you're doing encryption,
then a LUKS layer around the LVM only
3412 [21:46:40] *** Quits: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3413 [21:46:51] <sharp15> i use a separate /boot with gentoo. but
i've never done a UEFI install before.
3414 [21:47:05] *** Joins: enoq (~enoq@replaced-ip )
3415 [21:47:08] *** Quits: DaVinciCode2 (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3416 [21:47:11] *** Quits: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
3417 [21:47:31] *** Joins: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip )
3418 [21:47:50] *** Joins: sorko999 (~sorko999@replaced-ip )
3419 [21:48:16] *** Joins: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip )
3420 [21:48:28] *** Joins: hamid_rostami (~hamid@replaced-ip )
3421 [21:48:35] <SerajewelKS> i've learned to only trust
booting without a separate /boot if both are true: (1) / is in a
maximum of one "linear" layer (LVM *or* dmraid RAID1), and
(2) that layer is not LUKS
3422 [21:48:54] *** Joins: enoq_ (~enoq@replaced-ip )
3423 [21:48:56] <SerajewelKS> when i don't follow this rule i
get strange boot failures about every other kernel update
3424 [21:49:04] *** Joins: tryte (~tryte@replaced-ip )
3425 [21:49:05] <SerajewelKS> in theory it should be able to boot
from /-in-
3426 [21:49:11] <SerajewelKS> LVM-in-RAID1
3427 [21:49:26] <SerajewelKS> but that was exactly one such system
that gave me huge amounts of trouble randomly after a kernel update
3428 [21:49:38] *** Quits: bertbob (~bertbob@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
3429 [21:50:10] *** Quits: hamid_rostami (~hamid@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3430 [21:50:10] *** Joins: hamid_rostami (~hamid@replaced-ip )
3431 [21:50:30] *** Quits: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3432 [21:50:31] <sharp15> is there a way to free a cryptographic
volume from the installer?
3433 [21:50:50] *** Quits: Barones (~Barones@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3434 [21:50:50] *** Quits: hamid_rostami (~hamid@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3435 [21:50:51] <SerajewelKS> if you're not using it, just
delete the partition
3436 [21:51:12] *** Joins: Scorpion2185 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
3437 [21:51:14] <sharp15> i'm trying it keeps complaining
that it is in use.
3438 [21:51:27] <SerajewelKS> try removing the volume contained in
it
3439 [21:51:39] <SerajewelKS> setting it to "use as: do not
use" *should* be sufficient
3440 [21:51:40] <sharp15> there isn't one.
3441 [21:51:49] <sharp15> it is set to "do not use"
3442 [21:51:50] *** Joins: bertbob (~bertbob@replaced-ip )
3443 [21:52:13] *** Quits: enoq (~enoq@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3444 [21:52:15] <SerajewelKS> i've not run into that
situation before. i'd have to set up a dummy VM in that
scenario and see what my options are.
3445 [21:52:33] *** Joins: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip )
3446 [21:53:15] <SerajewelKS> you should have an option to create
a new disklabel altogether, which would discard the partition table
and start over
3447 [21:53:23] <sharp15> its not just me. and its not fixed.
3448 [21:53:44] *** Joins: bites (~bites@replaced-ip )
3449 [21:53:52] *** Quits: ZombiePig (~ZombiePig@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3450 [21:54:04] <sharp15> SerajewelKS: it won't let me edit
the actual partitions. i think its refusing to close the
device-mapper entry.
3451 [21:54:24] *** Joins: Namarrgon (~Namarrgon@replaced-ip )
3452 [21:54:32] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: you could take the nuclear
option -- switch to a VT, fdisk the disk and delete all partitions,
then reboot
3453 [21:54:45] <sharp15> SerajewelKS: its a multiboot system.
3454 [21:55:04] <SerajewelKS> then delete the partitions just for
the system you're trying to destroy?
3455 [21:56:05] <sharp15> i'm trying. one moment.
3456 [21:56:41] <SerajewelKS> you can do some other stuff instead
of rebooting, but that's the simplest option
3457 [21:57:12] <Scorpion2185> while installing debian it failed
the bootloader
3458 [21:57:12] <sharp15> yeah.
3459 [21:57:27] *** Quits: NeoZed (~ursu@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3460 [21:57:34] *** Quits: conta (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: conta)
3461 [21:57:48] *** Joins: NeoZed (~ursu@replaced-ip )
3462 [21:58:30] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
3463 [21:58:32] *** Joins: shivaya (~root@replaced-ip )
3464 [21:59:11] *** Quits: supercoven (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3465 [21:59:51] *** Joins: vidarr (~vidr@replaced-ip )
3466 [21:59:58] *** Quits: Scorpion2185 (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3467 [22:00:24] <sharp15> is 1GB big enough for a debian /boot?
3468 [22:00:49] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: mine is 512MB
3469 [22:00:51] *** Quits: platvoeten (~platvoete@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3470 [22:00:56] <SerajewelKS> so i would say yes
3471 [22:01:02] <greycat> mine is holding 62M of data with 2
kernels installed
3472 [22:01:05] <SerajewelKS> it only has 65MB used
3473 [22:02:19] *** Quits: NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3474 [22:02:22] *** Joins: Mathisen (~mathisen@replaced-ip )
3475 [22:02:45] *** Joins: cCkw (~ejakuk@replaced-ip )
3476 [22:03:03] *** Quits: BOSNA (~Sokol@replaced-ip ) ()
3477 [22:03:42] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3478 [22:05:07] *** Joins: xiculan (5b7e9bf0@replaced-ip )
3479 [22:05:17] *** Joins: Toadisattva1 (~Toadisatt@replaced-ip )
3480 [22:05:32] *** Joins: jfoy (~jfoy@replaced-ip )
3481 [22:05:39] *** Quits: jmarsac (~jmarsac@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
3482 [22:06:00] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3483 [22:06:16] <sharp15> greycat: to answer your comment. i get
key bouncing issues on the VT installer. i'll push the button
once and end up with 3 copies.
3484 [22:06:30] *** Parts: enoq_ (~enoq@replaced-ip ) ("Good Bye")
3485 [22:07:49] *** Quits: Toadisattva (~Toadisatt@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3486 [22:08:49] <Tom01> My 4790K Intel Cooler is making a loud
annoying howling Noise. Is that normal?
3487 [22:09:07] *** Quits: xiculan (5b7e9bf0@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
3488 [22:09:45] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip )
3489 [22:10:18] *** Quits: discovered1 (~discovere@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3490 [22:10:25] <bites> howling noise... not really. but the intel
stock coolers get pretty loud.
3491 [22:10:40] *** Joins: xiculan (5b7e9bf0@replaced-ip )
3492 [22:10:43] <xiculan> hello
3493 [22:10:48] <dvs> oi
3494 [22:11:17] <xiculan> anybody can help me with an issue about
raspbian?
3495 [22:11:27] *** Quits: fjavier (~fjavier@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3496 [22:11:32] <dvs> raspbian can
3497 [22:11:35] <dvs> !raspbian
3498 [22:11:35] *** Quits: _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3499 [22:11:35] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on
Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian
is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use
#raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.
replaced-url
3500 [22:11:42] *** Joins: bernhardr (~bernhardr@replaced-ip )
3501 [22:12:02] *** Quits: bernhardr (~bernhardr@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3502 [22:12:08] <zleap> when you install raspbian desktop on a pc,
the installer is the normal debian one
3503 [22:12:12] <xiculan> ok thanks
3504 [22:12:16] *** Quits: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3505 [22:12:39] <zleap> however there are a few parts of it
modified such as no user account creation when you install, account
pi is auto created
3506 [22:13:28] <zleap> xiculan: i'll try and help in
#raspbian
3507 [22:13:42] *** Quits: nehemiah (~nehemiah@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3508 [22:14:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1427
3509 [22:14:06] *** Quits: shivaya (~root@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3510 [22:14:22] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
3511 [22:14:25] *** Joins: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip )
3512 [22:15:40] *** Joins: Immanuel (~Manu@replaced-ip )
3513 [22:16:09] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
3514 [22:16:09] *** Quits: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3515 [22:16:09] *** Joins: Ricardo__ (~rick@replaced-ip )
3516 [22:16:43] *** Joins: internat (biteme2@replaced-ip )
3517 [22:16:48] *** Quits: laptop2 (~my123@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
3518 [22:16:57] *** Quits: towo` (~towo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3519 [22:16:58] *** Joins: reogaro (~reogaro@replaced-ip )
3520 [22:17:35] *** Quits: reogaro (~reogaro@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3521 [22:17:47] *** Quits: mfrisch (~mfrisch@replaced-ip ) (Quit: mfrisch)
3522 [22:19:13] *** Joins: treehug88 (~textual@replaced-ip )
3523 [22:19:41] *** Quits: Nitori (~kappa@replaced-ip ) (Quit: "I hate eggs with no yolk. My friend Herensuge was
beaten to death by one.")
3524 [22:19:54] *** Joins: Nitori (~kappa@replaced-ip )
3525 [22:20:24] *** Quits: diox (~u@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3526 [22:20:37] <DammitJim> jelly, yeah, I've run autoclean,
clean, and autoremove
3527 [22:20:46] *** Quits: hele (~hele@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3528 [22:20:48] *** Joins: platvoeten (~platvoete@replaced-ip )
3529 [22:20:54] *** Quits: Granis (~granis@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3530 [22:22:07] *** Joins: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip )
3531 [22:23:41] *** Joins: jmarsac (~jmarsac@replaced-ip )
3532 [22:24:14] *** Joins: daniel-s (~daniel-s@replaced-ip )
3533 [22:24:56] *** Quits: nuno_nunes (~PC@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3534 [22:25:07] *** Quits: a0z (~a0z@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
3535 [22:25:54] *** Joins: hypn0 (~h@replaced-ip )
3536 [22:26:45] *** Quits: Vooch (~vooch@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3537 [22:26:53] *** Joins: DaVinciCode1 (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip )
3538 [22:27:17] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
3539 [22:27:36] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
3540 [22:28:37] *** Quits: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
3541 [22:28:49] *** Joins: BlueByte (~walther@replaced-ip )
3542 [22:29:18] *** Quits: allorder (~allorder@replaced-ip ) (Quit: allorder)
3543 [22:29:55] *** Quits: DrWatson (~DrWatson_@replaced-ip ) (Quit: DrWatson)
3544 [22:31:16] *** Joins: RaiNerTsuFal (~RaiNerTsu@replaced-ip )
3545 [22:31:52] *** Quits: annadane (~annadane@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3546 [22:33:58] *** Joins: allorder (~allorder@replaced-ip )
3547 [22:34:18] *** Quits: mtn (~mtn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3548 [22:34:46] *** Quits: vidarr (~vidr@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3549 [22:35:06] *** Quits: Sinewpy (~end@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
3550 [22:36:35] *** Joins: Beretta021 (~Beretta02@replaced-ip )
3551 [22:36:35] *** Quits: Beretta021 (~Beretta02@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3552 [22:36:35] *** Joins: Beretta021 (~Beretta02@replaced-ip )
3553 [22:36:44] *** Joins: a0z (~a0z@replaced-ip )
3554 [22:37:01] *** Quits: Neo_Chen (~Neo_Chen@replaced-ip ) (Quit: 神奇，永無止境的神奇)
3555 [22:39:16] *** Joins: iflema (~ian@replaced-ip )
3556 [22:40:03] *** Quits: oo_miguel (~miguel@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)
3557 [22:41:41] *** Quits: Toadisattva1 (~Toadisatt@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3558 [22:42:07] *** Quits: Thedarkb1-T60 (~Thedarkb-@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3559 [22:42:21] *** Joins: chalcedny` (~llhull@replaced-ip )
3560 [22:42:44] *** Joins: Thedarkb1-T60 (~Thedarkb-@replaced-ip )
3561 [22:42:57] *** Joins: oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@replaced-ip )
3562 [22:43:15] *** Quits: chalcedony (~chalcedon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3563 [22:43:15] *** Quits: chalcedny (~llhull@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3564 [22:43:39] *** Quits: tvm (~tvm@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3565 [22:45:37] *** Joins: chalcedny (~llhull@replaced-ip )
3566 [22:47:10] *** Joins: Sinewpy (~end@replaced-ip )
3567 [22:47:29] *** Quits: AquaL1te (~AquaL1te@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3568 [22:48:03] *** Quits: chalcedny` (~llhull@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3569 [22:48:31] *** Joins: chalcedny` (~llhull@replaced-ip )
3570 [22:49:59] <sharp15> so. yay the install finished. my mistake
for not understanding i needed a /boot.
3571 [22:51:01] <DammitJim> wow... I finally understand that you
guys were talking about something called ELK
3572 [22:51:03] *** Quits: chalcedny (~llhull@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
3573 [22:52:16] *** Quits: NeoZed (~ursu@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3574 [22:53:11] <dvs> sharp15, why did you need a separate boot?
HD is larger than 2TB?
3575 [22:53:11] *** Quits: donofrio (~donofrio@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3576 [22:53:20] *** Quits: _MrGr33n_ (~None@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3577 [22:53:34] *** Joins: donofrio (~donofrio@replaced-ip )
3578 [22:53:43] *** Joins: _MrGr33n_ (~None@replaced-ip )
3579 [22:53:57] <SerajewelKS> dvs: he's using encryption
3580 [22:53:59] *** Quits: spectralthief (~julian-bn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3581 [22:54:03] <dvs> ah
3582 [22:54:07] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: if you picked guided mode
with encryption, i think it would have made a /boot for you
3583 [22:54:18] <SerajewelKS> if you're not using guided mode
it's understood that you know how to piece a system together :)
3584 [22:54:48] <SerajewelKS> which means knowing details like
"/boot can't be on an encrypted volume"
3585 [22:55:53] *** Quits: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
3586 [22:57:17] *** Quits: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
3587 [22:57:30] *** Joins: devbaka (~devbaka@replaced-ip )
3588 [22:58:04] *** Joins: thisisnotmynick (~root@replaced-ip )
3589 [22:58:07] *** Quits: jnavila (~jnavila@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3590 [22:58:43] *** Quits: Sinewpy (~end@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
3591 [22:58:47] *** Quits: thisisnotmynick (~root@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3592 [22:59:29] *** Joins: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip )
3593 [22:59:36] *** Quits: pax (~Thunderbi@replaced-ip ) (Quit: pax)
3594 [23:00:47] *** Quits: BlueByte (~walther@replaced-ip ) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
3595 [23:01:07] <sharp15> SerajewelKS: guided mode made a mess of
itself over the weekend even when i told it to blank a whole disk.
3596 [23:01:31] <SerajewelKS> sharp15: interesting. you seem to be
running into many problems that i haven't, for some reason.
3597 [23:01:42] *** Joins: fkboy9000__ (~fkboy9000@replaced-ip )
3598 [23:01:58] *** Quits: orbiter (~orbiter@replaced-ip ) ()
3599 [23:02:27] *** Quits: nibble_zero_two (~nibble_ze@replaced-ip ) (Quit: nibble_zero_two)
3600 [23:02:54] <sharp15> in college i learned that my computer
skills could fix or break a computer and i didn't have to touch
anything to do it. /s
3601 [23:03:06] *** Quits: vivid (~ViViD@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3602 [23:03:12] *** Joins: CyberManifest (~CyberMani@replaced-ip )
3603 [23:03:13] <sharp15> ok. i have to go. good evening guys.
3604 [23:03:15] *** Quits: sharp15 (~stop_look@replaced-ip ) (Quit: leaving)
3605 [23:03:26] *** Joins: Guest59254 (~ale@replaced-ip )
3606 [23:04:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1417
3607 [23:04:10] *** Quits: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
3608 [23:04:45] *** Joins: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip )
3609 [23:04:45] *** Quits: Guest59254 (~ale@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3610 [23:04:47] *** Joins: vivid (~ViViD@replaced-ip )
3611 [23:04:54] *** Joins: algomocu (~algomocu@replaced-ip )
3612 [23:04:56] *** Quits: fkboy9000_ (~fkboy9000@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
3613 [23:05:00] *** Joins: chalcedony (~chalcedon@replaced-ip )
3614 [23:05:54] *** Joins: Sinewpy (~end@replaced-ip )
3615 [23:06:13] *** Quits: fkboy9000__ (~fkboy9000@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3616 [23:06:33] *** Joins: hakash_ (~hakash@replaced-ip )
3617 [23:06:58] *** Quits: dkmueller (~dkmueller@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
3618 [23:07:30] *** Quits: platvoeten (~platvoete@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3619 [23:07:36] *** Parts: Zerock (~0ck@replaced-ip ) ("Leaving")
3620 [23:07:57] *** Joins: lucho (~luchus@replaced-ip )
3621 [23:08:15] *** lucho is now known as luchus
3622 [23:08:54] *** Joins: Guest76100 (~quassel@replaced-ip )
3623 [23:08:55] *** Quits: Tom01 (~tom@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3624 [23:09:12] *** Joins: st-gourichon-f (~Stephane@replaced-ip )
3625 [23:09:16] *** Quits: zleap (~zleap@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.3)
3626 [23:10:16] *** Quits: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3627 [23:10:33] *** Quits: LorD_n1c0w (~igora@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3628 [23:10:45] *** Quits: hakash_ (~hakash@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
3629 [23:11:09] *** Quits: st-gourichon-fid (~Stephane@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
3630 [23:11:26] *** Joins: LaScoumoune (~LaScoumou@replaced-ip )
3631 [23:12:59] *** Quits: LaScoumoune (~LaScoumou@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3632 [23:13:14] *** Quits: DammitJim (~DammitJim@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3633 [23:13:42] *** Quits: aleagori (~isin@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
3634 [23:14:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1411
3635 [23:16:07] *** Quits: luchus (~luchus@replaced-ip ) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
3636 [23:16:10] *** Joins: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip )
3637 [23:17:41] *** Quits: Ruebezahl (~Alf@replaced-ip ) (Client Quit)
3638 [23:18:19] *** Joins: dvs (~hibbard@replaced-ip )
3639 [23:18:29] *** Joins: sphenxes (~sphenxe@replaced-ip )
3640 [23:18:35] *** Quits: xiculan (5b7e9bf0@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Page closed)
3641 [23:19:31] *** Quits: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Bye, bye.)
3642 [23:20:05] *** Quits: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
3643 [23:21:00] *** Quits: Fusl (~fusl@replaced-ip ) (Excess Flood)
3644 [23:21:06] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3645 [23:21:11] *** Quits: pringau (~pringau@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3646 [23:21:12] *** Quits: cCkw (~ejakuk@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3647 [23:21:35] *** Joins: pringau (~pringau@replaced-ip )
3648 [23:21:40] *** Joins: cCkw (~ejakuk@replaced-ip )
3649 [23:21:49] *** Quits: SirNeo (~sirneo@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3650 [23:21:49] *** Joins: SirNeo (~sirneo@replaced-ip )
3651 [23:22:13] *** Joins: Fusl (~fusl@replaced-ip )
3652 [23:22:48] *** Joins: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip )
3653 [23:22:55] *** Joins: Mazhive (~Mazhive@replaced-ip )
3654 [23:23:45] *** Quits: kiasan (~kia@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
3655 [23:23:48] *** Quits: greycat (~wooledg@replaced-ip ) (Quit: They see me clawin' the love seat / They won't
do nothin' 'cause I'm cute and furry)
3656 [23:24:20] *** Quits: buriz (~tud3@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)
3657 [23:25:18] *** Quits: Mazhive_one (~Mazhive@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
3658 [23:25:20] *** Quits: rabbitear_sdf (kreator@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Lost terminal)
3659 [23:26:38] *** Joins: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip )
3660 [23:28:09] *** Quits: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip ) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
3661 [23:28:13] *** Quits: jmarsac (~jmarsac@replaced-ip##) (Quit: Nettalk6 - ##replaced-url
3662 [23:30:54] *** Quits: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
3663 [23:31:05] *** Joins: fax (~fax@replaced-ip )
3664 [23:31:25] *** Quits: sphenxes (~sphenxe@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3665 [23:33:14] *** Quits: sofia07 (~sofia@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3666 [23:33:35] *** Joins: finlstrm (~quassel@replaced-ip )
3667 [23:34:02] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1403
3668 [23:35:00] *** Quits: Sinewpy (~end@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3669 [23:35:28] *** Quits: DaVinciCode1 (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3670 [23:35:46] *** Joins: ArlequInOut (~DaVinciCo@replaced-ip )
3671 [23:35:50] *** Quits: jfoy (~jfoy@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3672 [23:36:22] *** Joins: jfoy (~jfoy@replaced-ip )
3673 [23:36:27] *** Quits: CrazyEddy (crazyed@replaced-ip ) (Remote host closed the connection)
3674 [23:36:50] *** Joins: Sinewpy (~end@replaced-ip )
3675 [23:37:56] *** Joins: maxrazer (~razer@replaced-ip )
3676 [23:37:58] *** Joins: m3ddle (~m3ddle@replaced-ip )
3677 [23:38:18] *** Joins: CaptainN (zelda@replaced-ip )
3678 [23:38:43] <maxrazer> Is it normal for the computer to stop
responding if I switch to another tty login and logout?
3679 [23:40:10] *** Joins: rabbitear_sdf (kreator@replaced-ip )
3680 [23:40:50] *** Joins: darkghost7 (~darkghost@replaced-ip )
3681 [23:41:36] *** Quits: Sinewpy (~end@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3682 [23:41:51] *** Joins: Night-Shade (~TimF@replaced-ip )
3683 [23:43:36] *** Quits: l1nuxg33k (uid322116@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
3684 [23:43:41] *** Quits: thatpythonguy (~john@replaced-ip ) (Quit: WeeChat 2.2)
3685 [23:44:11] *** Quits: watchcat (~un@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
3686 [23:44:38] *** Quits: dreamon (~dreamon@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
3687 [23:45:38] *** Quits: TellMeMore (~oryn@replaced-ip ) (Quit: EBADF)
3688 [23:45:51] <ryouma> why would that be normal?
3689 [23:46:05] <ryouma> (not a rhetorical question)
3690 [23:48:06] <maxrazer> ryouma, Maybe a flaw that has never
been fixed. Does it do this for you? It always does this for me.
3691 [23:48:16] *** Joins: hanasaki (~hanasaki@replaced-ip )
3692 [23:48:17] <maxrazer> I use IceWM and DWM.
3693 [23:48:38] <maxrazer> Why would it do this? Is there a right
way to do this?
3694 [23:48:41] <ryouma> maxrazer: i use jessie
3695 [23:48:52] <ryouma> i don't recall that ever
3696 [23:49:09] <maxrazer> Could it have to do with my nvidia
proprietary driver?
3697 [23:49:15] <ryouma> is this normal for jessie upgrade today?
i did not see it in the lts reports: The following NEW packages will
be installed: amd64-microcode (2.20160316.1~deb8u1)
firmware-amd-graphics (20161130-4~deb8u1) firmware-misc-nonfree
(20161130-4~deb8u1) intel-microcode (3.20180807a.1~deb8u1)
iucode-tool (1.1.1-1)
3698 [23:49:46] <maxrazer> I do startx. Then I switch to another
tty. Login. then logout or exit. Then it puts me back at the
desktop, or shows it but I can't do anything and I have to
reboot.
3699 [23:49:48] <ryouma> maxrazer: oh, i use vt to log in, so
dunno
3700 [23:51:21] *** Parts: a0z (~a0z@replaced-ip ) ()
3701 [23:51:27] <ryouma> sounds like it could be a kernel issue or
maybe even a binary blob
3702 [23:52:37] *** Joins: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip )
3703 [23:53:57] *** Joins: mfunkmann (~textual@replaced-ip )
3704 [23:54:25] *** Joins: OS-34800 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip )
3705 [23:54:37] *** Quits: OS-34800 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip ) (Changing host)
3706 [23:54:37] *** Joins: OS-34800 (~OS-34800@replaced-ip )
3707 [23:55:21] *** Quits: RaiNerTsuFal (~RaiNerTsu@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
3708 [23:55:25] <de-facto> Short question: which opcode caching is
the common/std choice for stretch php 7? I want to use it with
mediawiki
3709 [23:56:28] *** Quits: CyberManifest (~CyberMani@replaced-ip ) (Quit: Leaving)
3710 [23:57:11] *** Joins: Velgor (~Velgor@replaced-ip )
3711 [23:57:26] <mfunkmann> Hey folks, I need some help. I noticed
that on my fresh Debian installation, there is no
/etc/X11/xorg.conf, so I checked out
replaced-url
3712 [23:57:31] *** Joins: lnicf (~lnicf@replaced-ip )
3713 [23:57:33] *** Quits: sanches (~sanches@replaced-ip ) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
3714 [23:57:51] *** Parts: lnicf (~lnicf@replaced-ip ) ()
3715 [23:58:15] *** Joins: RaiNerTsuFal (~RaiNerTsu@replaced-ip )
3716 [23:58:36] <maxrazer> mfunkmann, All I know is I followed
instructions so nvidia settings save to the configuration file
properly.
3717 [23:58:49] <ryouma> is there a different channel for
oldstable?
↑ top
context: nick names on moving displays as market values
#debian Freenode IRC channel closed on 2021-06-01
contact: a @ her0. be