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36 [01:12:42] <winny> hello. is there a way to search all debian
repositories by package license?
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40 [01:14:43] <ARoxdale> Is there a way to set up wifi in debian
from the command line? Some kind of automatic program?
41 [01:15:03] <ARoxdale> I'm trying to google solutions but
I'm getting a lot of conflicting results.
42 [01:15:56] <dvs> ARoxdale,
replaced-url
43 [01:18:26] <Allain>
replaced-url
44 [01:18:40] <sney> /etc/network/interfaces will let you
specify the ssid and psk too, scroll up a bit from where dvs's
link drops you and there's an example.
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46 [01:19:29] <sney> wpa_supplicant.conf by comparison is more
complex with little extra benefit
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48 [01:22:20] <ARoxdale> etc/network/interfaces is an
autogenerated file. Edits are deleted.
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50 [01:22:43] <dvs> ??? no they're not
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52 [01:23:21] <ARoxdale> I'm using OpenMediaVault, but
I've encountered this issue on ubuntu also.
53 [01:23:49] <dar8> Hi,
54 [01:23:49] <dar8> I have a problem, i believe with Dolphin
(The file manager)
55 [01:23:50] <dar8> > When i create a new document using the
contextual menu in my file manager (Dolphin) the format of Libre
Office is Letter
56 [01:23:50] <dar8> > When i create a new document using
Libre Office Writter the format is A4
57 [01:23:51] <dar8> Both of the file created have have the
default style however ...
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60 [01:24:47] <ARoxdale> This issue with autogenerated
interfaces file has been happenning since the changes that turned
wlan0 into wlxxxx
61 [01:25:04] <n4dir> ls /etc/
62 [01:25:16] <dar8> Hi,
63 [01:25:16] <dar8> I have a problem, i believe with Dolphin
(The file manager)
64 [01:25:17] <dar8> > When i create a new document using the
contextual menu in my file manager (Dolphin) the format of Libre
Office is Letter
65 [01:25:17] <dar8> > When i create a new document using
Libre Office Writter the format is A4
66 [01:25:18] <dar8> Both of the file created have have the
default style however ...
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69 [01:25:36] <dvs> !tell dar8 about paste
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71 [01:26:39] <ARoxdale> The machine is terminal only with no
network, so I can't paste anything
72 [01:26:54] <sney> ARoxdale: we gave you the support
information for debian. if you're not using debian, go to the
correct channel, please
73 [01:27:20] <sney> it's not #debian's job to reverse
engineer a solution for some random derivative
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75 [01:27:49] <dar8> I don't understand i can't paste
i have to type it ?
76 [01:28:09] <n4dir> dar8 you can also use pastebinit and post
the link
77 [01:28:24] <sney> dar8: the bot auto-kicks people who paste
more than 4 lines. if you have some long paragraph you can put it in
a pastebin. or you can try describing your problem without hitting
enter so many times.
78 [01:28:28] <ARoxdale> I'm pretty sure the auto
generation of /etc/network/interfaces is coming from debian changes.
79 [01:28:38] <n4dir> though i'd assume the paste info from
the bot gives that info
80 [01:28:56] <sney> ARoxdale: nope, debian doesn't do
that. /etc/network/interfaces is commonly used in debian systems to
manually control the network. ask me how many systems I'm
currently doing that on
81 [01:30:10] <sney> ARoxdale: openmediavault seems to have a
support forum, they may have a channel somewhere, and in any case
"based on debian" is not supported here. that is a very
established rule and you will get nowhere arguing it
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83 [01:33:35] <dar8> Thanks, here is the link (Problem with
Doplhin or Libre Office, i am not sure) :
replaced-url
84 [01:33:50] <dar8> * Dolphin
85 [01:35:26] <sney> dar8: how did you get that context menu
item? I'm using kde and libreoffice and I don't get a
"create new" option for a libreoffice document
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87 [01:36:47] <dar8> I think it was some kind of extension in
the KDE store, but i don't remember ...
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89 [01:38:48] <sney> likely a bug with that extension, then.
90 [01:38:57] * sney bets an american developer who never considered
other formats
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92 [01:39:31] <ndegruchy> sney: I get libreoffice items in
dolphin with no outside work
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94 [01:39:42] <ndegruchy> sney: but your theory is the most
likely one
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96 [01:40:38] <dar8> A picture of the menu :
replaced-url
97 [01:40:40] <ndegruchy> I wonder if you can even localize
those documents
98 [01:40:53] <sney> I am on bullseye so I'm a couple
versions ahead, but I don't remember ever seeing it over the
years
99 [01:41:08] <sney> 404 on the file.io. I don't think that
service works
100 [01:42:02] <dar8> Imgur :
replaced-url
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102 [01:42:13] <ndegruchy> They're basic skeleton files, you
could likely just put your own versions in the templates folder
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106 [01:45:24] <ndegruchy> If you have $XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR set,
you can drop .desktop files there
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108 [01:46:58] <ndegruchy> Skeleton template folder .desktop file
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113 [01:48:56] <ndegruchy> Older source for the information:
replaced-url
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117 [01:53:19] <dar8> I see, thanks for the help
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151 [02:26:08] <Strife89> What's a basic task I can do in a
CLI to informally compare multiple devices' CPU speed?
152 [02:26:44] <Strife89> Ideally, one that supports using all
available cores.
153 [02:26:59] <ndegruchy> compression timing?
154 [02:27:21] <ndegruchy> though, some don't support
muti-cpus
155 [02:27:32] <Strife89> (I've been doing audio re-encoding
with a large audio file (FLAC->Vorbis), but I realized that
that's probably a single-core task.)
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157 [02:28:26] <Strife89> ndegruchy: You mean something like .zip
compression?
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160 [02:29:01] <ndegruchy> Yeah, gzip (via pigz), bzip, zip,
brotli, etc
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163 [02:32:38] <Strife89> Good idea, thanks.
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168 [02:38:09] <wrycode> Anyone know how to make dbus and systemd
--user work on a headless server?
169 [02:39:38] <wrycode> on fresh debian 10 cloud, systemctl
--user prints "Failed to connect to bus: No such file or
directory"
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172 [02:42:56] <wrycode> I installed dbus-user-session and tried
several ways to start dbus. I'll keep digging through docs +
google but I'm surprised this doesn't work by default
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176 [02:44:50] <somiaj> Strife89: cat /proc/cpuinfo (there is a
bogomips number that can be used for whatever that is worth)
177 [02:45:35] <somiaj> though sounds like you might want a more
detailed comparision, that is a quick (but madeup number) that rates
cpu power
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179 [02:46:55] <somiaj> grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo spits out the
number for all cores
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191 [03:03:00] <sponix> ,v rtorrent
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193 [03:03:01] <judd> Package: rtorrent on amd64 -- jessie:
0.9.2-1; stretch: 0.9.6-2+b1; buster: 0.9.7-1; bullseye: 0.9.8-1;
sid: 0.9.8-1
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195 [03:05:06] <somiaj> sponix: you can /msg judd v rtorrent if
that info is just for you
196 [03:05:59] <sponix> somiaj: I keep forgetting. I was trying
to /msg dpkg instead :P
197 [03:06:10] <sponix> didn't work out so well
198 [03:06:22] <somiaj> most likely got some snarky response from
dpkg
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237 [05:02:56] <brachamh> !pastebin
238 [05:02:56] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use for text:
replaced-url
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240 [05:03:17] <brachamh> !pastebinit
241 [05:03:17] <dpkg> A command-line tool to send data to a
<pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "apt-get
install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste
the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg 2>&1 |
pastebinit". For a list of pastebin sites do "pastebinit
-l". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>.
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396 [09:43:51] <nlpqda> such a shame to be tones of times asking
about a fix for jumping touchpad bug yet no one knows and/or tells
about xserver-xorg-input-libinput .. I decided to write it here
maybe someone will ask in future
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398 [09:44:54] <nlpqda> it is the only thing which fixed alps
synaptics touchpad issue for my laptop
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453 [10:55:55] <graytron> i updated debian buster packages to
latest release and grub fails to install, i got error message: GRUB
failed to install to the following devices: /dev/sda ; Do you want
to continue anyway? If you do, your computer may not start up
properly. Writing GRUB to boot device failed - continue? Yes/No, is
there a solution to this?
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469 [11:12:09] <frostschutz> graytron, what does your sda look
like? ( 'parted /dev/sda unit s print free' or similar )
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475 [11:18:47] <graytron> frostschutz: 1 2048s 1953791s 1951744s
fat32 efi boot, esp - 2 1953792s 99610623s 97656832s ext4 debian9 -
3 99610624s 1714417663s 1614807040s ext4 home
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478 [11:20:33] <graytron> frostschutz: i just noticed that i have
/dev/nvme0n1p3 set up as the root partition and there is no boot. i
managed to install grub on that
479 [11:21:10] <graytron> frostschutz: /dev/sda was the old
system disk with debian 9 and /home partition there
480 [11:24:12] <floogy> Hi, I got an issue with sshd with lagging
connection, because I forgot about email alerts in hosts.allow.
Because I forgot this, I tried all tips I found on the internet on
login delay. Finally I solved the 30 second delauy due to the script
in hosts.allow (I commented it out and replaced it with sshd:ALL),
but now TCP-Wrapper(?) only allow one connection at a time. When
first connect with ssh (cygwin) it instantly c
481 [11:24:12] <floogy> onnects to the virtual box debian buster,
but a second try to connect with another app (filezilla, winSCP) is
refused. But I didn't see any representation in the logs, nor
in dmesg :(. Before I tried all solutions I found on the net, ther
was the dreaded 30 second delay (by email alerts in hosts.allow),
but I was able to connect multiple times at once.
482 [11:24:59] <floogy> Unfortunately I don't have backups
of the configs before I altered them.
483 [11:27:37] <graytron> frostschutz: something changed between
debian 10.4 and debian 10.5 to cause grub to fail, because i only
upgraded packages from debian 10.4 to 10.5, and there were no other
changes
484 [11:28:11] <floogy> Something I'm missing. I tried to
unset all the delay-settings I changed. (history| grep 'vi
'). I may overlooked a change, e.g. in /etc/nsswitch or on
another place?.
485 [11:28:57] <floogy> Maybe someone KNOWS how to limit the sshd
connection to only one connection?
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487 [11:29:18] <frostschutz> graytron, for sda/efi you could have
tried something like this
replaced-url
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523 [12:07:57] <mebus> MariaDB on Debian refuses to start after
an upgrade.
524 [12:08:01] <mebus> can somebody help?
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526 [12:08:28] <shtrb> With what error ?
527 [12:08:31] <mebus>
replaced-url
528 [12:09:15] <mebus> and
replaced-url
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531 [12:12:00] <mebus> shtrb: any ideas?
532 [12:12:12] <graytron> frostschutz: installing grub to current
system disk worked, so that solved the issue. thanks though. it was
your question that made me realize the solution
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534 [12:14:36] <holyws> hey, i am trying to set a few specific
locales via dpkg-reconfigure locales. however, there are so many
locales in the menu that pops up, im having trouble scrolling
through it to grab the specific ones i need, is there a way i can
filter them or set them manually..?
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546 [12:38:11] <aaro> locale -a | grep <your_locale>
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575 [13:19:04] <Filystyn> hi was some time I was here
576 [13:19:16] <Filystyn> People still use this system ?
577 [13:19:29] <shtrb> yes
578 [13:19:39] <Filystyn> nice
579 [13:19:54] <Filystyn> would you recommand it for me - I am
compelte beginer
580 [13:20:05] <abrotman> recommend what?
581 [13:20:10] <Filystyn> debian ofc
582 [13:20:12] <Filystyn> what else
583 [13:20:41] <abrotman> do you mean stable? what is the use
case? what are you looking for?
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585 [13:22:22] <Filystyn> I am looking for operating system that
will have working internet browser and possibly program to write a
document
586 [13:22:33] <Filystyn> somethign like word and excel +
internet explorer
587 [13:24:40] <Filystyn> Can debian provide this ?
588 [13:24:57] <diogenes_> Filystyn, yes
589 [13:25:05] <JPT> Sure, debian can provide this. However -
with debian stable, you will not get the "most up to date"
software, hence the "stable" :)
590 [13:25:20] <diogenes_> Debian is universal.
591 [13:25:36] <JPT> If you're curious, you can always try
it within a virtual machine (using virtualbox or something)
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593 [13:26:06] <diogenes_> better a live usb.
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596 [13:29:50] <JPT> Sure, live usb is also a great option. I
kind of forgot about that since i don't have an optical drive
and the term "live cd" stuck with me :D
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598 [13:34:24] <Filystyn> So I can have IE on debian, nice
599 [13:35:12] <JPT> Well perhaps not IE, but an internet browser
such as firefox or chromium will work fine.
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602 [13:37:01] <JPT> (There may be technical ways to get IE
running, but those should be considered experimental and will take a
lot of work to keep stable.)
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604 [13:37:32] <shtrb> diogenes_, the live usbs are not so fun
anymore , but installing on a usb is much more fun
605 [13:37:47] <shtrb> Filystyn, IE is dead for a while , use FF
606 [13:40:26] <floogy> I put "MaxSessions=10" into my
/etc/ssh/sshd_config and restarted the sshd, but the issue persists,
that I can only have one only session at a time to connect to the
buster VirtualBox.
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608 [13:41:24] <JPT> floogy: Was that your only modification, or
did you also limit the number of processes for your user?
609 [13:41:54] <floogy> Or maybe the issue got to do something
with Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/sftp-server
610 [13:42:25] <floogy> Where to do that? Also in sshd_config?
611 [13:42:44] <JPT> What does the server log say when you try to
establish a second session?
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613 [13:43:18] <floogy> I can't login also a second time by
ssh client on cygwin.
614 [13:44:31] <JPT> Well, what do the logs for your sshd say?
615 [13:45:19] <JPT> Given that your second connection actually
hits sshd, everything related should be within that log
616 [13:45:20] <floogy> Nothing. I looked into /var/log, which
log files did change on a second try, by using `ls -ltr /var/log`
and monitored them by tail -f. Nothings reported, but I started sshd
(defined in /etc/default/sshd) with -ddd
617 [13:45:56] <JPT> Alright. Did you install firewall rules that
limit the number of connections?
618 [13:46:31] <Filystyn> What is FF?
619 [13:46:54] <JPT> Filystyn: In this case, FF refers to Firefox
620 [13:47:04] <floogy> But it worked, before I tested changes,
to reduce login delays. they took 30 seconds. I figured out, that I
forgot a script in hosts.allow, that send an alert by email, if
someone attempts to login. That was the culrit for the delay.
621 [13:47:54] <floogy> But I changed some configs (e.g.
nsswitch) with hints on the net, if the login is delayed,
beforehand.
622 [13:48:29] <floogy> I rolled them back, but by my memory,
because unfortunately I didn't backed them up before altering
them.
623 [13:49:11] <floogy> JPT no, not during that session to find a
solutuion for the delay.
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625 [13:49:14] <JPT> Since most of your game happens in /etc,
perhaps you want to check out etckeeper (which basically just uses
git to keep track of changes in /etc, so rolling back and checking
out changes is easier)
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627 [13:50:47] <floogy> I looked into history | grep 'vi
' to see which files I changed, abnd I think(!) that I rolled
back ebvery change after I found the hosts.allow as the culprit,
which now contains only sshd:ALL and a line break and some lines
that are commented out ...
628 [13:51:16] <floogy> aybe I will delete the #comments in taht
fiel and clean the hosts.allow?
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631 [13:51:49] <JPT> Unfortunately, i'm not very familiar
with hosts.allow as i never had to touch it before. Removing
comments should not change the behaviour unless there is something
wrong
632 [13:51:50] <floogy> thank you for that hint. I didn't
know on such a tool.
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634 [13:53:07] <abrotman> What is the error on the server when
you can't connect?
635 [13:53:13] <floogy> I made a long pause of several years I
didn't digging to deep into linux stuff ...
636 [13:54:22] <Regor> while installing neovim system had sudden
reboot(power failure) ... it installed but it gave some errors
" dpkg: error processing package libuv1:amd64
(--configure):package is in a very bad inconsistent state,**Errors
were encountered while processing:libuv1:amd64 E: Sub-process
/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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642 [13:55:58] <floogy> Clien:
replaced-url
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645 [13:56:56] <Filystyn> What about word do I have word on
debian?
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649 [13:57:57] <floogy> SERVER:
replaced-url
650 [13:58:32] <Regor>
replaced-url
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655 [13:59:50] <abrotman> Filystyn: Do you have Word on any
Linux?
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659 [14:00:28] <floogy> log files and tail cmd:
replaced-url
660 [14:00:37] <Regor> how to fix this broken " libuv1"
?
661 [14:02:37] <JPT> Regor: Since it stated to attempt a
reinstall, i would try 'apt install libuv1 --reinstall'
next
662 [14:03:18] <Regor> ok i try it
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664 [14:04:51] <floogy> JPT, abrotman I commented out the lines
which reported the atempted accesses to /var/log/sshd.log instead of
sending emails and parsing %s and %c for Email subject, body ansd so
on. Because I thought, I'll better keep hosts.allow clean until
I solved the issue.
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666 [14:06:49] <Regor> JPT: thanks! 👍️
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672 [14:08:50] <JPT> Regor: I'm glad this was easily
solvable. Otherwise, the next step would be eliminating scripts from
that package and sort-of manually killing the package before
installing it again. That might have been less pleasant. :)
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675 [14:09:43] <Filystyn> abrotman I duno. Never used linux
before
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710 [15:03:39] <floogy> Hi, I was disconnected, due to the banned
client xchat@win and hexchat@win ...
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713 [15:04:10] <floogy> Where can I find a backlog of #debian?
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715 [15:04:43] <mebus> is "ii libc6:amd64 2.30-8" the
correct libc6 version for debian?
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718 [15:08:05] <tomreyn> mebus: depends on the debian release
you're referring to.
719 [15:08:14] <mebus> tomreyn: buster ?
720 [15:08:51] <tomreyn> $ rmadison -u debian -s buster libc6
721 [15:08:51] <tomreyn> libc6 | 2.28-10 | stable | amd64, arm64,
armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
722 [15:09:01] <tomreyn> so no
723 [15:10:09] <mebus> and tipps on how to downgrade?
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725 [15:10:24] <tomreyn> reinstall
726 [15:10:43] <tomreyn> or install debian, since this is not a
debian version
727 [15:11:37] <mebus> just libc?
728 [15:11:42] <Filystyn> how to install debian?
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730 [15:12:03] <tomreyn> floogy: see /topic
("chanlogs")
731 [15:12:35] <tomreyn> Filystyn:
replaced-url
732 [15:13:08] <Yruama_Lairba> hello, i'm like to know how
to simulate repeated mouse click while a key is pressed, and stop
immediatly when the key is depressed
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734 [15:13:46] <tomreyn> mebus: libc6 is an essential package,
you don't "just up/downgrade" this.
735 [15:13:49] <Yruama_Lairba> i did something with xbindkeys and
xdotools, but repeated mouse click tend to continue after key
release
736 [15:13:57] <mebus> tomreyn: that's why I was asking
737 [15:14:16] <tomreyn> mebus: and i answered by "install
debian" ;-)
738 [15:14:33] <floogy> tomreyn: -!- #debian You're not a
channel operator ???
739 [15:14:49] <mebus> there has to be another way^^
740 [15:15:00] <tomreyn> floogy: yes, you're not.
what's your question there?
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742 [15:15:26] <floogy> That was the output on floogy: see /topic
("chanlogs")
743 [15:15:52] <tomreyn> floogy: what i meant to express is that
you should run the /topic command and take particular note at the
output of it where is says "chanlogs"
744 [15:16:12] <floogy> okay, sorry. It came just to my mind ...
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746 [15:16:50] <mebus> "ii libc6:amd64 2.28-10"
747 [15:16:54] <mebus> downgrade just happend.
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749 [15:17:33] <tomreyn> floogy: sorry if i made that too
complicated. in case you didn't notice, yet, the channel topic
here says "chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog". so it suggests you
run this irc command: /msg dpkg irclog
750 [15:17:50] <Filystyn> So I simply copy on windows downloaded
debian ISO on usb ?
751 [15:18:01] <Filystyn> hard...
752 [15:18:07] <tomreyn> floogy: this would get you a reply from
the channel bot, named "dpkg", with additional information
on the channel logging.
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755 [15:20:15] <floogy> tomreyn: Hm, It seems to me getting
nothing on /msg dpkg irclog? But I'm using irssi for the first
time (because xchat@win is banned suddenly for the first time on
freenode for me today).
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758 [15:21:35] <tomreyn> Filystyn: so you have windows installed
and want to install debian? personally i'd use a netinstall iso
(maybe the one with firmware included) on a usb stick then. there
are several softwares for windows which can write an iso file to a
usb storage in a way that systems can then boot off it.
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761 [15:23:11] <floogy> tomreyn: okay, I'll try again with
pidgin@win
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763 [15:25:30] <tomreyn> Filystyn: utilities i've often seen
recommended for writing .iso files to usb storages on windows so
that they become bootable are 'rufus' and balena etcher.
but pick whatever works for your. there's also ##windows for
additional suggestions.
764 [15:26:03] <floogy> err, I'm banned with pidgin too(?):
Verbindung unterbrochen.
765 [15:26:05] <floogy> ERROR :Closing Link:
p200300c92f3d93008cee06420b7aeaa4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (*** Banned )
766 [15:26:27] <tomreyn> floogy: for general help with IRC,
please ask in #freenode
767 [15:27:10] <tomreyn> floogy: regarding the /msg dpkg irclog
command, you should have received a 'private' message from
user dpkg.
768 [15:27:18] <tomreyn> this may show up in a different tab
769 [15:27:29] <shtrb> floogy, connect to #pidgin
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776 [15:39:06] <floogy> timeless: Okay, now I reached the issri
tabs ;)
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779 [15:44:27] <McErroneous> Hi, anybody still using debian 6.x ?
(Please get in touch with me , message me)
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785 [15:50:29] <JPT> McErroneous: Debian 6 is wayyyy out of
service. You should try and upgrade (using the archive sources) or
plainly backup and reinstall if possible.
786 [15:52:15] <JPT> If you have a specific question, you can
state it here and see what comes up.
787 [15:53:05] <JPT> The only people i know that operate an old
debian are on debian 7, and they only operate it because i exported
an old VM for them to run on a disconnected laptop, so they can keep
their special app alive
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790 [15:57:20] <timeless> floogy: ok, but I don't have any
context
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792 [15:59:55] <McErroneous> ignore JPT
793 [16:01:09] <JPT> Oh well, i'll ignore it :)
794 [16:01:47] <Filystyn> How much Do I pay for debian?
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796 [16:04:27] <floogy> Maybe I mistaken you. Anyway, the
backlogs are not uptodate, one or a half day behind. I was banned by
freenode for 4 hours on trying to solve my sshd issues here. Now it
seems, only irssi is working for me on freenode, maybe freenode
doesn't connects to freenode.net? dunno
797 [16:05:48] <JPT> Filystyn: Debian is free software, so if you
choose to download and install it, it's free as in free
software. If you buy it from a distributor (as a shipped dvd or
similar) you'll pay for their cost.
798 [16:05:53] <floogy> JPT: Ah, JPT. You're one of the guys
helped me with my sshd issue.
799 [16:06:27] <JPT> Yes, i was. To connect to freenode, you
usually point your client at irc.freenode.net.
800 [16:06:58] <floogy> I don't know, if I missed some of
your answers on disconnection, because xchat@win was buggy (therefor
I wa banned).
801 [16:08:02] <JPT> floogy: It doesn't look like you missed
something while you've been away.
802 [16:08:03] <floogy> Suddenly I was disconnected and my
windows console programm was closed with three open tabs ...
803 [16:08:34] <floogy> okay, thanks.
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810 [16:12:56] <floogy> JPT: I guess you don't have an idea
why I only be able to connect only one ssh session at onece to the
debian buster sshd server right? Particulary, because I cannot find
any log entries about tha rejection.
811 [16:13:42] <JPT> Unfortunately, apart from the usual suspects
(firewall rules, weird ssh client config, weird ssh server config,
limited process numbers for target user on server), i'm out of
ideas.
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813 [16:14:53] <floogy> Okay. Maybe I'll find the culprit
myself. Thank you!
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815 [16:15:49] <floogy> Maybe processes or even free space.
I'll look into tha, too.
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817 [16:17:10] <JPT> Since you mentioned that you fiddled with
the hosts.allow, perhaps also check the hosts.deny and (if present,
not sure) the third one if there is one.
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820 [16:19:41] <Filystyn> JPT if it's free why there are non
free packets
821 [16:19:49] <Filystyn> Was looking on sources lists examples\
822 [16:20:01] <Filystyn> Definatly someone is here paying money
in the shadows
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824 [16:20:19] <Filystyn> Trying to hide it from user?
825 [16:20:24] <JPT> There are also non-free packets which
include things like firmware which can be proprietary.
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827 [16:20:45] <JPT> Having a separate non-free repository allows
users to decide what they want to use and know the legal
implications.
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829 [16:21:16] <Filystyn> So the system is not free actualy
830 [16:21:18] <JPT> You can read a bit more about the details of
"non-free" here:
replaced-url
831 [16:21:25] <tomreyn> Filystyn: i think you should just go
elsewhere for trolling, and take some classes, too, yours is really
on a very sorry level so far.
832 [16:21:32] <JPT> The system itself is free, but it does not
stop you to install non-free software.
833 [16:22:06] <Filystyn> But is sucks if I mistakenly install
those packets they will send me a bill
834 [16:22:32] <Filystyn> I am now a bit afraid to install this
system. Since any mistake might lead to paying money for soft I
never wanted
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836 [16:23:00] <shtrb> you are mixing charge for use and free to
use (as in free beer)
837 [16:23:07] <JPT> It doesn't work like that. Please go
ahead and read the except i linked earlier.
838 [16:23:20] <Filystyn> well if it's non free to use and I
can't use it why it is in repository ?
839 [16:23:25] <oerheks> Filystyn, really?
840 [16:24:04] <Filystyn> This make sno sens puting in repository
soft a user is forbiden to use
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847 [16:29:29] <Filystyn> Sucks most hardware packets are
non-free
848 [16:29:58] <floogy> JPT: FYI, there are odd issues on sshd
out there:
replaced-url
849 [16:30:10] <floogy> JPT:
replaced-url
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852 [16:30:48] <floogy> JPT: found those issues by googling
debug1: Setting controlling tty using TIOCSCTTY.
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856 [16:35:47] <JPT> floogy: Those seem a bit more specific than
yours. If i remember correctly, you're just running a slightly
modified debian 10 within a regular virtual machine?
857 [16:36:25] <shtrb> Anyone have an idea how one can use Wi-Fi
calling with debian (and some kind of dialer from debian to use )
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859 [16:37:38] <JPT> shtrb: You're probably looking for one
of many possible voice over IP (VoIP) clients (and possibly more
related software). That's a whole universe on its own.
860 [16:38:21] <shtrb> Oh I know of voip :) thank you , I would
like to use my current sim card to auth against the provider and
have the ipsec tunnel working .
861 [16:39:13] <shtrb> Many providers allow today WiFi Calling
(your phone make an ipsec connection ,use your sim card to auth and
authorizate , and make a call over the wifi network ) .
862 [16:39:36] <JPT> Oh, okay. I didn't know about that yet.
863 [16:40:40] <shtrb> Now I know how to use your sim card for
auth (via wpa_supplicant + card read ) , I know ipsec I'm
missing the third part of the service (and if possible not to use
any smart phone at all )
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867 [16:45:59] <JPT> I don't know about all of that, but i
wish best of luck for finding people that can help you out. It seems
to be a fairly fresh topic, even a quick google search doesn't
really give deep results.
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869 [16:48:38] <chakpapa> Can anyone tell me if the
"updates" repository should be activated by default? I
have a production environment and value stability
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872 [16:49:51] <dvs> chakpapa, the debian-security
"updates" repo definitely should
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875 [16:50:17] <chakpapa> dvs, not the security. I am talking
about the "release-updates"/ volatile
876 [16:50:24] <chakpapa> is it recommended to have that?
877 [16:51:41] <JPT> Official debian repositories for
"stable" are - as the name already states - fairly stable
within releases. (Don't use "stable", use
"buster" or whatever major version you want to stick to,
so you don't get surprise-upgrades)
878 [16:51:54] <dvs> Hmmm... I don't know about that repo. I
have a buster-updates repo which contains rapidly changing packages.
879 [16:52:21] <chakpapa> Yup. I was talking about that one.
"buster-updates" ...
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882 [16:53:27] <JPT> I believe that "buster-updates"
refers to this one:
replaced-url
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884 [16:54:38] <JPT> According to that description, i would
recommend to keep that repository and expect that it does not
introduce breaking changes.
885 [16:55:19] <JPT> I got way more disruption from third party
repos (e.g. elasticsearch, which just broke everything with a minor
update)
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907 [17:15:45] <Pinchiukas> What do I have to do so that
"apt-get install -y grub-pc" would not ask me for
anything? I'm trying to perform this non-interactively from a
script.
908 [17:16:58] <oerheks> the -y accepts the defaults
909 [17:17:31] <Pinchiukas> It doesn't.
910 [17:17:54] <LaunchDirector> Hello, can anyone help me figure
out why my security camera only upload to the home directory even
when i try to change to /mnt/ it just ends up creating a /mnt/
folder in /home/. Im using pure-ftpd it used to work last week and
now it doesnt. I can access any folder over winscps over ftp from
another computer so i dont get why the camera only has access to
home
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912 [17:18:37] <LaunchDirector> i tried 3 different ftp servers
not sure how else to configure them anymore
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918 [17:20:36] <floogy> JPT: I got it! The debug mode defines in
/etc/default/sshd: SSHD_OPTS=-ddd limited the connection to one at
once!
919 [17:20:53] <JPT> Ooooh, that's evil :D
920 [17:21:12] <JPT> Alright, disable debug mode and everything
should be back to normal :)
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922 [17:21:27] <floogy> Yes, it is! omg
923 [17:21:54] <JPT> I'll try to keep that noted in my head
for when it might become useful again
924 [17:22:12] <floogy> Probably to reduce the debug noise and
confuse the debugger ...
925 [17:22:34] <JPT> That's very likely. It's already
much output for one session. I don't want to imagine multiple
sessions.
926 [17:23:08] <floogy> Yes, indeed
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930 [17:25:55] <floogy> A half day lost, only due to my lacked
memory of setting unnessecary email alerts for Attempt sshd logins
in hosts.allow ... jeess
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932 [17:27:16] <JPT> At least it's a solvable issue. Burning
time is still better than recovering mission critical things with
time in your neck. Enjoy your sunday :)
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942 [17:33:10] <saveNexit> hi, I cant connect to another computer
via scp, nor can ping it
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945 [17:34:02] <floogy> JPT: I'm not sure, though, but it
seems to me, that one can use in parallel multiple session with
debug1 (-d), up to two session with debug2 (-dd) and only one
session at a time with debug3 (-ddd).
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948 [17:35:41] <JPT> The manpage doesn't really explain the
individual levels, but if that's what it does, i guess
it's okay.
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951 [17:37:22] <floogy> Thank you JPT, have a nice sunday too!
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954 [17:39:49] <saveNexit> I had no problem with ssh or scp until
now. and ping was working. what I can only think of as the reason is
that I reset my router recently. how can I fix this?
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962 [17:40:58] <floogy> saveNexit: I only can guess. Maybe it has
to do with MTU, or routing ...
963 [17:41:35] <JPT> Use `ip addr show` and `ip route show` to
verify that your local network configuration is still okay. Also
double check your ethernet cable is plugged in, so we can save us a
headache.
964 [17:42:43] <JPT> Then ping your router and see if that works.
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966 [17:44:14] <saveNexit> this is all Chinese for me
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968 [17:44:18] <saveNexit> I dont even know what you mean
969 [17:44:40] <saveNexit> those commands show normal outputs
970 [17:44:53] <saveNexit> nothing irregular
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972 [17:46:03] <JPT> Okay - what was the last thing that you
changed before it stopped working?
973 [17:46:19] <saveNexit> all plugged in, all shown ok, host is
up (nmap output)..still nothing
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975 [17:47:25] <saveNexit> I was suggested to change ISP's
router settings. but that didnt help
976 [17:47:59] <JPT> Perhaps the issue is on the other end.
Perhaps you failed to login a bunch of times and you got
(temporarily) blacklisted?
977 [17:47:59] <floogy> maybe the router lost some configuration
on reset?
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979 [17:49:19] <floogy> Do you have another server to connect, to
verify the issue isn't on the remote side?
980 [17:49:20] <saveNexit> I havent configured anything. it is
already a very simple interface
981 [17:49:20] <saveNexit> you cant configure much, only very
little
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1004 [18:04:40] <teclo-> Evening, it seems I may have found some
inconsistence in Debian GNU/Linux 10.x
1005 [18:04:58] <teclo-> I'm reading the loadkeys man page
and it says the keymaps are in /usr/share/keymaps
1006 [18:05:08] <teclo-> but there's not directory
/usr/share/keymaps at all
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1008 [18:06:24] <JPT> Maybe those are provided by the
console-keymaps-* packages?
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1011 [18:11:01] <teclo-> JPT: might be....
1012 [18:11:23] <teclo-> so the command to change the keymap is
longer loadkeys <something> ?
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1014 [18:11:54] <JPT> I never really used it, but yes, loadkeys
should require an argument
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1017 [18:12:21] <teclo-> well it use to be loadkeys be-latin1.map
:)
1018 [18:12:32] <teclo-> but maybe that changed after some years
1019 [18:12:32] <JPT> I'm not sure if the codes are
consistent across distributions. For archlinux, i use 'loadkeys
de' to load a basic german layout.
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1021 [18:13:31] <teclo-> loadkeys be
1022 [18:13:31] <teclo-> cannot open file be
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1026 [18:15:51] <JPT> Looks like the package
'console-data' contains the most basic keymaps:
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1028 [18:16:14] <JPT> be-latin1 is mentioned in there, too
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1030 [18:19:27] <teclo-> ah thank you JPT
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1033 [18:23:46] <dob1> I don't remember what does the -ng
means in package name
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1037 [18:26:07] <JPT> For `aircrack-ng` it stands for "next
generation"
1038 [18:26:59] <sney> that's usually a safe assumption for
what it means. same for syslog-ng, initng, etc
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1040 [18:28:28] <dob1> it's the fork of the package?
1041 [18:28:32] <dob1> the program
1042 [18:29:00] <JPT> In most cases it's "the same tool,
but made from scratch to more modern standards"
1043 [18:29:08] <JPT> Something like a complete 2.0 style remake
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1045 [18:30:43] <dob1> JPT, got the idea, thanks
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1058 [18:40:23] <mad_monk> I am trying to understand /boot
partition on LVM - as per the documentation it should be outside LVM
-
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1059 [18:40:34] <mad_monk> Is it still applicable for GRUB 2
version and above?
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1061 [18:41:03] <mad_monk> Is it recommended to have a separate
partition for /boot ?
1062 [18:43:06] <JPT> If you're using Grub2, under certain
conditions you can boot off of an lvm. But i doubt that grub can
fetch its own config and additional modules from an lvm - at least
not without embedding lvm modules in grub.
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1064 [18:43:36] <JPT> If you want to save yourself a headache,
just throw in a separate partition for /boot and you're good.
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1066 [18:44:02] <JPT> Note that booting uefi-style still requires
an efi partition (FAT-32) to work.
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1069 [18:46:20] <JPT> Personally, i strongly recommend creating a
/boot partition, so no matter what else you're coming up with,
you can boot into your linux + initramfs first. This way, everything
will be way easier.
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1073 [18:47:19] <mad_monk> Thanks
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1079 [18:50:59] <sney> also, if you're making a separate
/boot and think there's even a *small* chance that you *might*
want to use non-standard or homebuilt kernels in the future, make
your /boot about twice as big as the installer suggests
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1083 [18:53:17] <MESSIAH> How to check all files in folder for
chown?
1084 [18:53:36] <sney> you are probably looking for 'ls
-l'
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1087 [18:57:04] <MESSIAH> sney yes that's it. Next how to
change chown to new user of all files?
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1089 [18:57:24] <sney> first of all, the "ch" in
"chown" already means "change".
1090 [18:57:57] <sney> you want to know how to change ownership,
the answer is: read 'man chown'
1091 [18:58:06] <MESSIAH> chown -ch newuser:newuser?
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1094 [18:58:26] <sney> no. read the instructions.
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1107 [19:13:19] <CarlFK> when compiling, what var points to
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu ?
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1109 [19:14:22] <CarlFK> like if I wanted to have a different dir
of libs /foo/, I could set said var=foo and the build tools would
likely respect that
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1111 [19:15:17] <CarlFK> this is all to help track down a bug with
building
replaced-url
1112 [19:16:09] <ChmEarl> CarlFK, its configured in as:
--libdir=/usr/lib/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH)
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1117 [19:21:14] <CarlFK> ChmEarl: um... maybe? I am trying to
figure out why this happens:
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1119 [19:21:32] <CarlFK> pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0 =>
2.58.3 (good)
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1121 [19:22:27] <CarlFK> ninja -C builddir devenv (does some
things, gives me a new shell,
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1122 [19:22:56] <CarlFK> pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0 =>
Variable 'libdir' not defined in
'/home/groot/gst/gst-build/builddir/meson-uninstalled/glib-2.0-uninstalled.pc'
1123 [19:23:24] <CarlFK> and now trying to build the examples fail
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1125 [19:24:05] <CarlFK> so what did "ninja -C builddir
devenv " do that caused pkg-config to fail ?
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1128 [19:27:45] <CarlFK> the answer might be PKG_CONFIG_PATH
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1152 [20:00:52] <format_c> bnv
1153 [20:00:54] <format_c> m
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1276 [22:12:37] <jim> what;s the name of the thing where you have
a config file, and you feed it to the installer and it installs
debian according to that file?
1277 [22:14:02] <jim> preseeding!
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1280 [22:17:00] <MESSIAH> Somebody using fail2ban?
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1290 [22:24:04] <thelounge1312> What's the proper way in
buster to run "ethtool -s INTERFACE wol g" at startup? A
manual run seems to reset it after every reboot
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1293 [22:29:19] <Allain> this sounds to be a good place
replaced-url
1294 [22:31:02] <thelounge1312> ah, perfect. Thanks!
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1296 [22:32:40] <Allain> Just seqrching zith the right zords qnd
you get the qnszer
1297 [22:33:00] <Allain> This what I did
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1301 [22:35:19] <thelounge1312> yeah, i found a lot of systemd and
(old) rc.local answers, figured I'd ask just to be sure
1302 [22:35:22] <thelounge1312> thanks again
1303 [22:35:52] <jmcnaught> thelounge1312: check out
/usr/share/doc/ethtool/README.Debian it looks like you can configure
wol in /etc/network/interfaces with a line like "ethernet-wol
g" in your iface stanza.
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1305 [22:37:12] <Allain> Hi
1306 [22:37:16] <thelounge1312> jmcnaught I tried that but
didn't seem to work. Using this with proxmox which creates that
bridged interface, so not sure if that mattered?
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1308 [22:38:01] <Allain> Do you know a way to wol VM interfaces ?
I use Vmware Workstation. An application exists but for Windows and
it is not free
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1310 [22:38:51] <Allain> I have 4 VM in a local network on my
laptop, 2 Linux and 2 BSD
1311 [22:39:33] <jmcnaught> thelounge1312: proxmox might be
different, see /msg dpkg proxmox
1312 [22:41:13] <tds> thelounge1312: what does `dpkg -l ifupdown*`
output?
1313 [22:42:19] <thelounge1312> tds
replaced-url
1314 [22:43:14] <tds> thelounge1312: ah, so plain ifupdown rather
than ifupdown2; the /etc/network/interfaces stuff should work then
1315 [22:43:15] <sney> iirc proxmox overwrites
/etc/network/interfaces on boot and does some other custom stuff.
this network has a ##proxmox that will have more accurate support
for you.
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1317 [22:43:31] <thelounge1312> tds didn't seem to, but the
if-up.d script did
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1322 [22:47:09] <sney> tds: look at that version string, the +pve1
strongly suggests that it won't behave the same way as
debian's
1323 [22:47:19] <LaunchDirector> Hello, can anyone help me figure
out an ftp issue. Why my security camera only upload to the home
directory even when i try to change to /mnt/ it just ends up
creating a /mnt/ folder in /home/. Im using pure-ftpd it used to
work last week and now it doesnt. I can access any folder over
winscps over ftp from another computer so i dont get why the camera
only has access to home
1324 [22:47:26] <sney> (where the differences are, we could only
guess without looking at the patches)
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1339 [22:58:39] <tds> sney / thelounge1312: afaik pve's
ifupdown is fairly stock, the only difference to the buster one is
the prerm is removed, so it can cleanly be uninstalled (and swapped
to ifupdown2) without taking down networking -- and pve only
overwrites /e/n/i when you actively make changes through the web ui
(or reboot having previously made changes)
1340 [22:58:46] <tds> oh, they're gone anyway
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1342 [22:58:51] <tds> (and never turned up in ##proxmox :( )
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1356 [23:11:45] <MESSIAH> I have question about bantime in
fail2ban
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1360 [23:13:19] <rany> MESSIAH: please ask your question about
bantime in fail2ban
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1367 [23:19:39] <MESSIAH> OK
1368 [23:19:51] <MESSIAH> Next question is about host.deny
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1370 [23:20:51] <MESSIAH> If I add IP to this file then I need
restart server?
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1391 [23:44:17] <Allain> host.deny is a config file, it just read
by an application, maybe restart if it is a service MESSIAH
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1393 [23:45:26] <MESSIAH> Allain So if I add there my IP will be
blocked instant or after reload service?
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1395 [23:46:39] <sney> I imagine this is covered in the manual
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1408 [23:58:44] <Allain> MESSIAH, Try something simple to test so
you know, I just made a test with SSH but it does not work as
expected after restarting the service.
1409 [23:59:09] <jhutchins> MESSIAH: I think most services that
use these files check them on each new connection, but a service
that uses them should specify in the documentation.
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1411 [23:59:24] <Allain> What do you want to block ? It's
sometimes better to block user or machines in the service
configuration, like un ssh
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1413 [23:59:43] <MESSIAH> I want block bruteforce
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