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16[00:06:28] <MACscr> so mellanox drivers are awful. Think if i
get the mlnx-en service to start before networking, it might solve
this problem?
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17[00:06:36] <MACscr> any ideas are appreciated. im lost with
systemd
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22[00:09:02] <jelly> I don't have an answer, just
wondering which irc client translated that "rc.local" into
an URL for you, MACscr?
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24[00:09:20] <johnkeates> i wonder, why is there no Rick Roll
malware yet?
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25[00:09:21] <MACscr> jelly: lol, stupid pidgin
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26[00:09:32] <MACscr> er, adium
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27[00:09:54] <johnkeates> don't use adium, use x-chat
aqua!
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28[00:10:00] <johnkeates> you'll be one of the cool kids
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29[00:10:12] <MACscr> but its awful as far as a ui
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30[00:10:21] <johnkeates> na
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31[00:10:25] <johnkeates> it's nice and minimal
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32[00:10:34] <missmbob> no one should. their website
doesn't even have a valid certificate
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33[00:10:42] <johnkeates> pf
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34[00:10:48] <johnkeates> who needs websites on App Store
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36[00:11:17] <jelly> (the apps and the store itself _are_
nicely signed)
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37[00:11:36] <missmbob> letsencrypt.org is free. not that hard.
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39[00:12:23] <johnkeates> it's really hard for internal
services
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40[00:12:27] <johnkeates> and for ip adresses
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73[00:25:50] <duelle> Hi, I am trying to install debian using
luks/lvm but every time I want to write the partitioning
configuration it says: "The attempt to mound a file system with
type ext4 in Encrypted volume (md0_crypt) at /path failed." The
only thing I can find in dmesg is:" md0: unknown partition
table."
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77[00:30:47] <Eduard_Munteanu> duelle, RAID arrays have no
concept of partitions, so you have to stick LVM or something else on
top.
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81[00:32:14] <duelle> Eduard_Munteanu: Currently I have
SoftwareRaid1 and Encryption on top. So there should be LVM on top
of it?
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85[00:33:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> duelle, if you need to
partition. RAID + LUKS + LVM is a common setup though.
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88[00:33:52] <duelle> Yeah ok, thanks Eduard_Munteanu. I
thought that I do not necessarily need LVM in case I do not want
multiple partitions out of that.
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89[00:34:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> duelle, hm, well, you should be
able to use the LUKS device in its entirety, though.
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93[00:35:28] <duelle> Eduard_Munteanu: Either way, after adding
one LVM vg and volume it seems to go through.
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95[00:36:04] <duelle> Thank you for the hint. The error message
in the partitioner was not very exact or hinting on anything :/
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97[00:37:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> duelle, it looked like it was
trying to partition the LUKS device, but then the kernel didn't
like reading the partition table.
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101[00:37:58] <otyugh_> hey ! I'm on a apple mac last
version !
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102[00:38:07] <otyugh_> Can I destroy myself ? o/
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104[00:38:28] <otyugh_> (rrmh, sorry ><)
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105[00:38:56] <duelle> Eduard_Munteanu: Even though I explicitly
set up the file system on 'md0_crypt'.. strange thing -
but now it works with LVM in between ;)
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107[00:39:37] <duelle> Is there a way to remove a set up
encrypted volume? I could not find an option to do so.
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108[00:39:44] <duelle> I mean in the partitioner
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112[00:40:31] <awal1_> otyugh_, we dont care at all about apple
mac stuff; well served here with debian gnu/linux :P
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160[01:13:09] <mo1991reg> sdf
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161[01:13:22] <monsune> hello! i run a few virtual hosts with
apache, when i type the IP in i get access to one of them while i
would like some default page instead, can you tell me how to do
this?
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171[01:16:22] <dnn> monsune have you tried adding virtual host
without ServerName?
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176[01:20:01] <monsune> dnn hm never tried that yet
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180[01:20:40] <monsune> dnn so you mean like empty virtual host
container?
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182[01:21:02] <monsune> err not empty, just without ServerName
line?
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183[01:21:18] <dnn> yep, as first block <VirtualHost :80>
DocRoot /path/ </VirtualHost>
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185[01:21:30] <dnn> before the other virtual hosts
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187[01:22:45] <monsune> i'm trying to test this now
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193[01:26:06] <monsune> dnn i owe you big time! thanks so much
:)
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255[02:05:25] <waszabi> hi guys, is there an easy way to change
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270[02:18:35] <Deepfriedice> I have a slightly weird question.
Does anyone here use httpredir.debian.org? I've been trying it
out lately, but it only seems to direct me towards
debian.salud.gob.sv, which isn't terribly appropriate.
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273[02:19:51] <themill> httpredir focuses on whether the mirror
is in a consistent state not on whether it is close
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274[02:20:08] <themill> (and it manages to get both wrong on a
regular basis, unfortunately)
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280[02:22:41] <Deepfriedice> The website claims it's
supposed to use geographical proximity. But then the website also
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284[02:23:25] <themill> but as I said, its primary focus is on
correctness, after that, geography
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286[02:24:11] <Deepfriedice> The weird this is how consistent it
is though: it ONLY directs me to debian.salud.gob.sv. Surely there
must be other correct mirrors, rather than just that?
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287[02:24:14] <themill> You might find deb.debian.org a better
option at this stage
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288[02:24:29] <themill> There are no mirrors in Australia that
aren't broken
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290[02:25:03] <themill> It has been like this for over a
decade.... we can't get mirror operators to update their
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291[02:25:15] <Deepfriedice> Oh.
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292[02:25:27] <ryouma> given that .au is reputed to have a thin
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293[02:25:46] <Deepfriedice> That probably goes a long way to
explaining things.
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295[02:25:49] <themill> You can use them most of the time... and
then just switch to the next one when you next get hashsum mismatch
errors
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296[02:25:56] <themill> rinse and repeat
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298[02:26:21] <rjsalts> it's probably also less of a
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299[02:26:59] <Deepfriedice> I'm on testing.
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304[02:28:33] <rjsalts> yeah, that becomes less certain.
It's the update scripts that are wrong. They're doing a
naive rsync. Which means Packages.(xz|bz2|gz) is out of sync with
Release or pool
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306[02:29:01] <rjsalts> for some period during an update, if
you're unlucky
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308[02:31:02] <ryouma> because gzip screws with timestamps
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309[02:31:03] <ryouma> ?
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310[02:31:24] <rjsalts> because they've downloaded the
Packages... but not Release, or vice versa
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311[02:32:12] <ryouma> there's a flaw in rsync with gzip
and certain perl modules, in which mtime and size stay the same but
the file changes. i thought you were possibly referring to that.
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312[02:32:25] <rjsalts> the official mirror scripts download all
of pool, then atomically update Packages/Release at the same time,
so there is never a moment that the mirror is inconsistent
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313[02:32:57] <Deepfriedice> Huh. Wouldn't that just
require a very small change to the script?
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314[02:33:23] <rjsalts> yes, but the operators of the mirrors in
Australia have not deployed said script
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315[02:33:29] <ryouma> sounds like he's referring to a
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325[02:40:35] <rjsalts> yeah, pretty much
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326[02:40:42] <Deepfriedice> deb.debian.org seems to be working.
Thanks!
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327[02:40:55] <koldbrutality> anyone here using x32 abi?
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425[04:05:22] <Guest51588> Do you need a fast computer to use
debian
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426[04:05:29] <missmbob> no
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430[04:08:57] <jaggz> The first CD is a live CD?
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431[04:08:59] <jaggz> debian-8.5.0-i386-kde-CD-1.iso
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432[04:09:08] <dvs> no
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433[04:09:09] <jaggz> I want something to put in my laptop to
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434[04:09:39] <themill> it's bootable
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436[04:10:26] <jaggz> oh shoot, I went to the wrong link from
the Live information page
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437[04:10:27] <jaggz> thanks
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438[04:10:41] <jaggz> is there a live version with non-free
firmware?
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439[04:10:50] <jaggz> need something for this old
"netbook" type thing
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440[04:11:32] <dvs> yes
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475[04:55:52] <eliotime> Where is Firefox 48? In Debian Mozilla
repo, the Firefox browser is still in 47.0.1
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477[04:56:46] <rjsalts> eliotime:
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478[04:56:47] <missmbob> eliotime: it's in unstable
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480[04:57:04] <erm3nda> of course XD
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481[04:57:25] <eliotime> For when will be in Debian Mozilla
Repo? Because I'm using Debian Stable (Jessie).
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483[04:57:55] <missmbob> eliotime: probably just a few days
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488[04:59:21] <eliotime> Maybe the delay of the release is due
to issues related with GTK3 framework?
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493[05:00:22] <rjsalts> don't the release versions go to
backports? if they're made for stable at all?
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502[05:01:06] <eliotime> In backports, Firefox is not avariable.
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503[05:01:16] <Wally> is cp -Ru good enough for a nightly
backup?
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505[05:01:44] <rgwu> rsync is your friend
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509[05:03:41] <Wally> yeah sounds better
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514[05:05:02] <jmcnaught> Wally: there are lots of tools that
provide incremental backups which can help protect against the
backups have the same changes/deletions as the original. If you have
a cron job that just copies or rsyncs everything to the backup, it
could also copy the problems, rendering the backups useless
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517[05:05:52] <Wally> True.
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519[05:06:14] <Wally> maybe I do a weekly rotation or something
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520[05:06:17] <jmcnaught> Wally: i use one called duply which is
easy to set up. Another one I've seen recommended here is
obnam.
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522[05:07:06] <Wally> Duply sounds great!
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523[05:07:13] <jmcnaught> Wally: i have duply configured to do a
full backup once a week, and incremental backups (only the diffs)
every day. Then I always keep at least two full backup chains (in
practice usually more)
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524[05:08:41] <Wally> Brilliant. Thanks jmcnaught!
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525[05:09:55] <ryouma> what does duply store as? files?
archives?
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527[05:12:10] <jmcnaught> ryouma: duply is actually a wrapper
for duplicity, which uses GnuPG signed/encrypted tar archives
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528[05:13:08] <ryouma> so basically one hugenormous archive and
then a bunch of incrementals?
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529[05:13:41] <jmcnaught> ryouma: the full backup is also broken
up into smaller files
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530[05:13:55] <ryouma> so to restore you need cat, tar, gpg, it
sounds like
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531[05:14:09] <jmcnaught> but duply/duplicity is your interface
to them, so you use duply commands to restore
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532[05:14:15] <ryouma> i knw obnam deduplicates
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533[05:14:26] <ryouma> i meant if you do not have duply
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534[05:14:53] <ryouma> it's nice to knw tht you do not
require much
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535[05:14:53] <jmcnaught> obnam looks good
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537[05:15:02] <ryouma> yeah it has a good manual
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541[05:15:28] <jmcnaught> +1 for good manuals
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543[05:16:14] <ryouma> i have used rdiff-backup which wfm.
rsnapshot wfm too but if i had to switch i might use obnam.
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545[05:19:01] <jmcnaught> ryouma: wfm? borg backup is another
one that looks good
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547[05:21:43] <ryouma> hmm
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548[05:21:49] <ryouma> wfm = works for me. rsnapshot wfm.
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549[05:22:01] <jmcnaught> ohh, duh..
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552[05:22:38] <jmcnaught> anyways, lots of good backup software
to select from in Debian
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553[05:23:00] <ryouma> indeed
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562[05:28:08] <k384> what is up?
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563[05:29:15] <jmcnaught> hi k384 you've entered a Debian
support channel. we have a side-channel #debian-offtopic if you feel
like chatting :)
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564[05:29:30] <jmcnaught> or do you need some help with Debian?
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566[05:31:40] <k384> sorry
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567[05:31:49] <k384> thank you for the reference
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645[06:36:08] <reev> jmcnaught: Hi
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646[06:36:21] <jmcnaught> reev: hey
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647[06:36:29] <reev> How are you?
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649[06:36:51] <jmcnaught> reev: okay. did anacron run at
midnight?
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650[06:37:05] <jmcnaught> that's you right?
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652[06:37:22] <reev> jmcnaught: yeah on some systems it does but
on some systems it didn't
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653[06:37:27] <reev> yea thats me
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654[06:37:41] <reev> I set the conf you told me
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656[06:38:07] <mi11k1> i just aquired 2 jynxbox android m6s, i
want to put debian on them, but I can't find much info on
Google
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657[06:38:16] <jmcnaught> reev: have you compared the configs on
the systems that do with the systems that don't?
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658[06:39:08] <reev> jmcnaught: yeah I put similar configuration
on all my all machines but some working fine but some dont
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659[06:39:28] <mi11k1> for what application?
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660[06:40:17] <jmcnaught> reev: from what i recall the only
thing that you change from defaults are /etc/cron.d/anacron you
change the cron string to @midnight from 30 7 * * *, and you have
some scripts in /etc/cron.daily/ right?
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661[06:40:55] <jmcnaught> reev: are the other systems running
anacron at some other time instead?
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662[06:41:31] <reev> jmcnaught: I have set daily.shot identifier
in /etc/anacrontab , yeah every machine is set to run that script at
midnight
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667[06:43:19] <zerodrama> how do I tell kde to stop suspending
when i close the lid?
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668[06:43:39] <jmcnaught> zerodrama: are you on Debian 8
(jessie)?
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669[06:43:47] <zerodrama> ya
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671[06:44:35] <reev> jmcnaught: like this
replaced-url
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672[06:44:56] <jmcnaught> zerodrama: edit
/etc/systemd/logind.conf and set HandleLidSwitch=ignore then run
"systemctl reload systemd-logind"
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674[06:45:47] <jmcnaught> reev: okay so you decided to keep the
jobs in your anacrontab instead of putting them in /etc/cron.daily/
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675[06:46:25] <reev> jmcnaught: I dont want to mess with
/etc/cron.daily , is it okay?
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676[06:46:58] <reev> or should i put it /etc/cron.daily?
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677[06:47:02] <jmcnaught> reev: it should be the same either
way.
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678[06:47:03] <reev> *in
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679[06:47:32] <jmcnaught> reev: the cron.daily job on line 7 of
your anacrontab executes the scripts in /etc/cron.daily/
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680[06:47:47] <reev> yes
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681[06:48:19] <jmcnaught> reev: so most debian users would just
put scripts there and never touch anacrontab, but it's also
okay to add jobs to anacrontab
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682[06:48:41] <reev> I am sharing the syslog of systems
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683[06:49:04] <jmcnaught> anyways, is anacron running at a
different time on these systems, or simply not at all?
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689[06:50:46] <reev> jmcnaught:
replaced-url
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690[06:51:38] <reev> jmcnaught: on all systems
/etc/cron.d/anacron has @midnight string in there
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691[06:51:42] <jmcnaught> reev: and /etc/cron.d/anacron is
identical on each system?
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693[06:52:18] <reev> yeah
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694[06:52:46] <jmcnaught> reev: does restarting cron have any
errors or warnings?
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695[06:53:44] <jmcnaught> reev: also /etc/init.d/anacron
definitely exists on all systems?
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696[06:54:27] <reev> jmcnaught: restarting shows no error
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698[06:55:06] <jmcnaught> reev: the command cron is running
tests for the anacron init script existing, then invokes it
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699[06:55:07] <reev> yes /etc/init.d/anacron is present on all
systems
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701[06:56:06] <reev> jmcnaught: i have install anacron via
apt-get install anacron on all systems
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702[06:56:13] <reev> *had
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703[06:56:18] <reev> *installed
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706[06:56:57] <jmcnaught> reev: so what happens if you run
"test -x /etc/init.d/anacron && /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d
anacron start" ?
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707[06:57:17] <reev> jmcnaught: should i run this command
manually
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708[06:57:24] <reev> right now
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709[06:57:40] <jmcnaught> reev: sure, on a system that
didn't run anacron jobs at midnight
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710[06:57:45] <reev> okay
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711[06:58:18] <jmcnaught> reev: looking at
replaced-url
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715[07:02:12] <reev> let me check again
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720[07:05:59] <reev> jmcnaught:
replaced-url
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735[07:16:00] <miesco> Hi. Does jessie have a program to
download youtube videos?
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739[07:18:49] <reev> jmcnaught: /etc/init.d/anacron is present
on all systems
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740[07:20:20] <waszabi> miesco: $ apt-get install youtube-dl
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741[07:20:41] <miesco> waszabi: I think that is outdated
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742[07:20:53] <waszabi> it worked for me last time I used it
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743[07:21:06] <waszabi> that was like 2 months ago :) well time
passes
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744[07:21:48] <jmcnaught> reev: so anacron runs its jobs okay it
seems, but you need to figure out why anacron isn't being run
by cron
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745[07:22:13] <waszabi> miesco: try ted.com, there are much
better videos than on yt
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746[07:22:39] <jmcnaught> there's a newer youtube-dl in
jessie-backports
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748[07:24:16] <miesco> jmcnaught: That one also seems to be
outdated
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749[07:24:37] <erm3nda> im using youtube-dl and worked few days
ago
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750[07:24:48] <erm3nda> but yes, stopped to work for a days,
untill i've updated it
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751[07:25:23] <jmcnaught> reev: you could try changing the
/etc/cron.d/anacron to a time a couple of minutes from now and then
wait to see what happens (tail -f /var/log/syslog)
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752[07:25:54] <miesco> erm3nda: did you update it with apt-get?
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753[07:26:37] <reev> jmcnaught: yeah i can try this
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757[07:27:26] <miesco> Okay. How do I stop mpd from being
started by the system?
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759[07:27:31] <erm3nda> i think yes
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760[07:27:33] <erm3nda> ill check
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761[07:27:39] <jmcnaught> reev: it should give a line in syslog
like "Anacron 2.3 started on 2016-08-08" and then
something about no jobs executed if it's on the same system
that you ran anacron manually
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762[07:28:00] <erm3nda> youtube-dl version 2016.07.05
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764[07:28:21] <jmcnaught> miesco: "systemctl disable
mpd" (or whatever its service unit is named)
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766[07:28:37] <miesco> jmcnaught: I have done that. It does not
work.
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768[07:28:38] <erm3nda> miesco, im not sure on how to check if
was installed by apt-get , but i think yes, usually i do not compile
things if not really needed
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769[07:29:03] <erm3nda> can i know wich command failed for you?
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770[07:29:09] <erm3nda> mp3? mp4?
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771[07:29:10] <miesco> erm3nda: Does it work right now? Does
this work?: youtube-dl -x --audio-format mp3
replaced-url
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772[07:29:14] <jmcnaught> miesco: does it have a socket unit?
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773[07:29:15] <reev> jmcnaught: I will share the logs
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774[07:29:15] <erm3nda> let me try ;)
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776[07:29:30] <erm3nda> params did change from last, sure
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777[07:29:58] <erm3nda> yes it works
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778[07:30:14] <erm3nda> destination mp3
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779[07:30:21] <miesco> jmcnaught: I don't think so
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780[07:30:23] <erm3nda> miesco, totally, works again
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783[07:30:35] <jmcnaught> miesco: "systemctl list-units |
grep mpd"
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785[07:30:50] <jvava> hi
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786[07:31:02] <miesco> jmcnaught: returns 1
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787[07:31:06] <reev> jmcnaught: it ran successfully
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790[07:31:43] <miesco> erm3nda: Are you sure you are using
debian's version? Can you check what version?
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791[07:31:46] <miesco> ,v youtube-dl
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792[07:31:47] <judd> Package: youtube-dl on amd64 -- jessie:
2014.08.05-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 2016.02.22-1~bpo8+1; stretch:
2016.02.22-1; sid: 2016.06.25-1
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793[07:31:55] <jmcnaught> miesco: literally the char
'1' was returned by that command?
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794[07:31:56] <jvava> miesco, jessie
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795[07:31:58] <reev> jmcnaught:
replaced-url
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797[07:32:05] <miesco> jmcnaught: No I mean exit code 1
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798[07:32:24] <erm3nda> miesco, [debug] Python version 2.7.9 -
Linux-3.16.0-4-amd64-x86_64-with-debian-8.4
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799[07:32:40] <erm3nda> nothing special on my respos i guess
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800[07:32:49] <miesco> erm3nda: That is your python version
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801[07:32:54] <jvava> Getting tftp: client does not accept
options error when booting from PXE
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802[07:33:04] <erm3nda>
Linux-3.16.0-4-amd64-x86_64-with-debian-8.4
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803[07:33:08] <erm3nda> read the full string, please
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805[07:33:13] <jvava> i google and found no way to resolve
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806[07:33:15] <jmcnaught> miesco: oh.. so where do you see mpd
still running?
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807[07:33:23] <miesco> jmcnaught: I stopped it
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808[07:33:41] <miesco> jmcnaught: with `service mpd stop`
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809[07:33:42] <jmcnaught> miesco: but you said it still starts
on boot?
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810[07:33:47] <miesco> jmcnaught: Yes
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811[07:33:54] <reev> jmcnaught: ??
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812[07:33:58] <miesco> jmcnaught: I am running it as a user and
the system keeps starting it
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814[07:34:11] <miesco> erm3nda: That is your kernel version
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816[07:34:26] <erm3nda> Jessie 8.4. is you kidding me?
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818[07:34:52] <jmcnaught> reev: i don't know why it ran
just now but not when the cron expression was @midnight
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819[07:34:53] <miesco> erm3nda: youtube-dl --version
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820[07:34:59] <erm3nda> i pasted it before
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822[07:35:05] <erm3nda> but wait! i can do it again XD
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823[07:35:17] <erm3nda> [debug] youtube-dl version 2016.07.05
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825[07:35:28] <miesco> erm3nda: So you did
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826[07:35:56] <miesco> erm3nda: As you can see, you have a way
later version that jessie-backports
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827[07:36:10] <erm3nda> should i check for repos?
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828[07:36:21] <erm3nda> old didn't worked, so i've
updated it
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829[07:36:30] <miesco> erm3nda: You probably just installed it
manually. I just did `pip install --user youtube-dl` and it works.
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830[07:36:31] <erm3nda> also params used are no longer same
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831[07:36:47] <erm3nda> maybe i used pip instead apt-get
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832[07:36:52] <erm3nda> because it's python
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833[07:36:58] <erm3nda> not sure if it's a nice reason
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835[07:37:02] <erm3nda> but worked :V
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836[07:37:15] <miesco> erm3nda: I just use the --user flag so I
don't mess up my system
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837[07:37:35] <miesco> erm3nda: If there are conflicts, I can
just `rm -rf ~/.local/`
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838[07:37:36] <erm3nda> i don't
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839[07:37:50] <erm3nda> i can do it on system too, problem? XD
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840[07:38:00] <erm3nda> my first python experience was to update
2 to 3
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842[07:38:05] <erm3nda> later i learned it cannot be
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843[07:38:08] <erm3nda> HA HA HA
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844[07:38:32] <miesco> erm3nda: Its better to install all system
python packages through apt-get
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845[07:38:36] <jmcnaught>
replaced-url
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847[07:38:42] <erm3nda> why?
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848[07:38:44] <erm3nda> i got problems with that
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849[07:38:47] <jmcnaught> erm3nda: ^^
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850[07:38:49] <erm3nda> because OS is holding etc
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857[07:40:49] <miesco> jmcnaught: Any suggestions?
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858[07:41:28] <jmcnaught> miesco: reboot, see if it still runs,
look it in "systemctl list-units" again
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862[07:42:05] <jmcnaught> miesco: also try looking for it in
"systemd-cgls" (without grep) to figure out which
service/slice/scope the process is running under, to figure out what
starts it
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864[07:44:07] <miesco> jmcnaught: Okay. I made a note of this.
I'll check it next time I see that the system has started mpd.
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970[08:51:01] <flamingogirl> He's live on air there
directly taunting the (((OVERLORDS)))!
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981[08:53:15] <Nika7> Hi
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982[08:53:17] <Nika7> Where get tiny WM on shell?
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983[08:53:23] <haavard> I want to install firejail from
jessie-backports, but it seems to pull in a ton of dependencies,
even if the only one listed online is libc: <replaced-url
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988[08:54:50] <Nika7> Where get tiny WM on shell?
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989[08:54:58] <Hunterkll> startx ?
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993[08:55:16] <Hunterkll> your .xinitrc should have the wm
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997[08:56:24] <The-Compiler> At
replaced-url
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1009[08:59:00] <Nika7> Where get tiny WM on shell?
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1011[08:59:49] <themill> The-Compiler: you won't see binNMUs
listed there, only human uploads
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1017[09:01:04] <erm3nda> haavard, i don't remember what i
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1018[09:01:04] <erm3nda> haavard, can't you install?
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1024[09:02:59] <themill> haavard: you could try not installing
recommended packages for this particular case.
(--no-install-recommends)
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1025[09:03:19] <The-Compiler> themill: so that'd be a
binNMU, i.e. a non-maintainer uploaded a binary package? Can I
somewhere see why that was done and what the changes are?
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1029[09:03:42] <themill> !binnmu
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1030[09:03:43] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, binnmu is
binary <NMU>, which means a package was recompiled without
changing the source. This often occurs when one of the libraries a
package depends on has changed, and it needs to be recompiled
against the newer library. The <debian revision> part of the
package version normally has +b1 (+b2 etc) appended to it.
replaced-url
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1032[09:04:00] <The-Compiler> background: I'm maintaining an
unofficial pdftk-bin package for Archlinux which uses the Debian
package, as pdftk isn't in the official Arch repos, and is a
pain to build from sources :)
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1033[09:04:01] <haavard> themill: thanks, that did the trick :)
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1036[09:04:29] <The-Compiler> themill: ah, thanks!
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1037[09:05:01] <themill> The-Compiler:
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1041[09:06:34] <themill> The-Compiler: pdftk (2.02-4+b1) sid;
urgency=low, binary-only=yes * Rebuild against gcj 6.
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1045[09:07:35] <themill> There's going to be a lot of that
with GCC 6 becoming the default toolchain
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1046[09:07:45] <The-Compiler> awesome, thanks :)
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1054[09:09:02] <jaggz> is there a live version with non-free
firmware?
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1055[09:09:14] <jaggz> I asked earlier but had to go and
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1056[09:10:05] <themill> jaggz: [12:11] <dvs>
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1201[10:34:21] <sander^home> Do anyone know whats left to get
firejail into mainline jessie from backports?
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1215[10:42:25] <sander^home> As I understand, namespaces needs to
be compiled in, wondering if thats on by default.
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1244[11:07:21] <thnee> Regarding user space stacks like libusb
and btstack, how do they not conflict with the OS? Or are you
supposed to turn stuff off in the kernel when using them?
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1249[11:11:28] <seaman> hi all
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1250[11:11:36] <seaman> !list
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1251[11:11:37] <dpkg> seaman: È possibile scaricare un
sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a
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1254[11:12:27] <jelly> sorry, that link is outdated
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1277[11:26:11] <dionysus69> I am on debian sid, iam getting this
dependancy error: crossover:i386 depends on libpng12-0
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1278[11:26:19] <dionysus69> currently I have libpng16-16
installed
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1279[11:26:33] <dionysus69> that required version doesnt even
show up in repo, what do I do?
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1280[11:28:22] <jelly> ,v libpng12-0
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1281[11:28:24] <judd> Package: libpng12-0 on amd64 -- squeeze:
1.2.44-1+squeeze4; squeeze-security: 1.2.44-1+squeeze4;
squeeze-security-lts: 1.2.44-1+squeeze6; wheezy-security:
1.2.49-1+deb7u2; wheezy: 1.2.49-1+deb7u2; jessie-security:
1.2.50-2+deb8u2; jessie: 1.2.50-2+deb8u2
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1284[11:28:37] <jelly> dionysus69, add repos for jessie
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1285[11:29:05] <jelly> dionysus69, /msg dpkg jessie sources.list
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1289[11:29:35] <dionysus69> I dont wanna poluute sources.list too
much I ll show you my two files and tell me what exactly do I need
to add :D
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1290[11:30:09] <dionysus69> deb
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1291[11:30:09] <dionysus69> deb-src
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1292[11:30:09] <dionysus69> deb
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1293[11:30:09] <dionysus69> deb-src
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1294[11:30:09] <dionysus69> this is what I have in sid sources
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1297[11:31:19] <dionysus69> so do I just add this to the file ?
deb
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1298[11:31:19] <dionysus69> deb-src
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1299[11:31:44] <dionysus69> sorry I got kicked by flood helper so
if you wrote anything I wouldnt see it
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1301[11:32:07] <jelly> dude, you use sid, you should know how to
edit sources :-)
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1302[11:32:22] <dionysus69> I know how to add sources
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1303[11:32:30] <dionysus69> I just dont want to add more that
what I need for this particular case
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1304[11:32:40] <dionysus69> more than*
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1305[11:32:48] <jelly> "stretch" is not
"sid", either
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1306[11:33:10] <dionysus69> wait
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1307[11:33:17] <dionysus69> how do i figure out which one I have
installed
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1309[11:33:37] <dionysus69> I just installed testing, thought it
was sid and it may not be?
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1310[11:33:42] <BenNZ> dionysus69: please dont take this the
wrong way , but if you are asking this then you shouldnt be using
sid
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1311[11:34:09] <dionysus69> haha I will learn :D BenNZ
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1312[11:34:10] <ransur0t> dionysus69: uname -a
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1313[11:34:21] <dionysus69> Linux debgen 4.6.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP
Debian 4.6.4-1 (2016-07-18) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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1314[11:34:29] <dionysus69> doesnt say sid or stretch or whatever
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1315[11:35:27] <dionysus69> stretch-DI-alpha7 _Stretch_ this is
in sources.list too
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1316[11:35:43] <dionysus69> so this is not sid but a specific
release of stretch?
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1317[11:36:21] <jelly> what matters is the contents or
sources.list, and what you pasted does not say "sid" or
"unstable"
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1320[11:36:31] <dionysus69> anyways I think i missused sid word
yes
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1321[11:36:37] <dionysus69> my aim wasnt to install unstable
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1322[11:36:38] <jelly> in any case,
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1323[11:36:39] <dionysus69> but testing
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1324[11:36:41] <jelly> !debian-next
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1325[11:36:42] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1372[12:10:07] <JBandy> hey everybody please listen to Jason
Bandy's EFNet News Episode 3 here:
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1388[12:17:32] <dagerik> last displays wtmp begins Mon Aug 8
11:55:23 2016 but machine uptime is 600 days
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1394[12:20:29] <themill> sounds a lot like log rotation works
even if you are running a vulnerable kernel
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1406[12:27:49] <jelly> dagerik, debian rotates wtmp on a monthly
basis by default, has been doing that for a very long time
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1433[12:46:42] <Mads_> Hello i'm trying to make a host get
its config via tftp. I have many hosts where this process works
perfectly, but having problems with this one. Looking with tcpdump i
get the following (Ip addresses replaced)... 12:42:30.575995 IP
10.10.10.10.162 > 20.20.20.20.34: ICMP host 10.10.10.10.162
unreachable, length 48
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1434[12:47:21] <hrob> hi
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1435[12:47:50] <Mads_> Is it just me or is it strange that the
source 10.10.10.10 replies to the server that itself 10.10.10.10 is
unreachable? Or did i misunderstood something?
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1437[12:48:41] <HD|Laptop> Hello all
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1439[12:50:04] <HD|Laptop> Assuming I have a machine with three
USB soundcards (6 channels), a bluetooth chip and a line-in, can I
set up a system that: a) acts as a BT audio sink and b) upmixes the
signal from line-in and BT from 2.0 stereo to 5.1 surround?
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1441[12:50:51] <HD|Laptop> I really don't want to have
dozens of devices, I'd rather like having everything integrated
into my media center/NAS
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1442[12:51:07] <HD|Laptop> (and yes, it's running Debian, no
xbmc or other stuff)
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1444[12:51:57] <hrob> I have a lot of error messages in kern.log
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1445[12:52:01] <hrob> 10:05:38 jira kernel: [ 735.489357] traps:
lightdm-gtk-gre[13842] trap int3 ip:7f15140d6e8d sp:7ffc1bfbf0a0
error:0
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1446[12:52:07] <hrob> constantly
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1468[13:11:12] <hrob> is it normal for cron to be so verbal in
syslog?
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1479[13:14:15] <jelly> hrob, every job will be accounted for, yes
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1482[13:15:21] <teraflops> HD|Laptop: sure, why not? pulseadio
does enable-remixing=yes by default so if i understand what you say
you want it to "no"
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1484[13:15:39] <HD|Laptop> teraflops, hmm it's three
separate soundcards
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1486[13:16:07] <teraflops> HD|Laptop: and?
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1487[13:16:22] <HD|Laptop> so I'd first have to tell the
system somehow which soundcard maps to which channel(s)... are there
any tutorials?
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1488[13:16:41] <HD|Laptop> My last experiences with multichannel
audio on linux are a decade ago
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1490[13:17:02] <HD|Laptop> And last time with bluetooth audio was
back when the RPi 1 was released
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1491[13:20:05] <teraflops> HD|Laptop: hmm, for the mixing stuff i
think
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1495[13:21:09] <HD|Laptop> yeah especially without a GUI ^^ was a
nightmare to set up even then, I believe some bluez components got
updated and couldn't do A2DP sink any more so I had to stick
with debian rusty at the time ;)
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1496[13:21:23] <HD|Laptop> Thanks for the pulseaudio link
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1502[13:23:00] <teraflops> HD|Laptop: I managed to stream bt
audio with debian jessie + pulseadio systemwide you have two options
afaik, running pulseadio systemwide or doing it this way:
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1506[13:24:45] <teraflops> HD|Laptop: pulseadio systemwide is
discouraged anyway you can do it if you want
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1508[13:25:30] <teraflops> HD|Laptop: the gist I pasted above is
a good workaround though
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1510[13:26:05] <HD|Laptop> Thanks
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1513[13:26:57] <teraflops> HD|Laptop: anyway this is for
headless, if you have xorg running with a user logged in your life
will be easier
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1538[13:45:05] <teraflops> HD|Laptop: oh, the a2dp stuff is now
way easier just install bluez + pulseaudio-module-bluetooth. then
bluetoothctl
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1553[13:55:57] <RebelCoderW> Guys, is there an image of Debian
8.5 with Plasma 5 ?
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1559[13:57:25] <akfp> how can I do `apt-get install package#SHA2`
where I only want a package if it has a particular SHA2?
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1562[14:00:17] <erm3nda> akfp, put an example of a correct
package name with your SHA2 version
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1566[14:01:53] <Fr_Dae> akfp apt only
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1567[14:01:59] <teraflops> RebelCoderW: I don't think so
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1568[14:02:11] <Fr_Dae> apt-get isn't nessesary, apt is same
with color and progress bar
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1571[14:03:06] <Fr_Dae> akfp you have a error on update because
you use old PPA ?
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1572[14:03:15] <Fr_Dae> with no-sh256 =)
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1573[14:03:29] <Fr_Dae> launchpad-getkeys
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1574[14:04:33] <OrbsTheorem> arrh, I recompiled the kernel for an
arm board yesterday and I forgot to add support for netfilter
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1575[14:04:44] <OrbsTheorem> so I can't use iptables :/
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1577[14:06:41] <jelly> RebelCoderW, no, and there will never be
an official one
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1579[14:07:16] <RebelCoderW> JelmerD: Even after Plasma 5 is rock
solid in next 5 years ?
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1581[14:07:47] <jelly> RebelCoderW, correct. You'll have to
use at least the upcoming debian 9
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1582[14:08:16] <RebelCoderW> How do you know, that Debian will
always stay on KDE 4?
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1583[14:08:20] <jelly> (current testing, codename
"stretch", has plasma 5 and will become debian 9 in time)
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1584[14:09:04] <RebelCoderW> Ahhh... so Plasma 5 WILL be default
KDE with upcoming releases, when Plasma 5 is much more tested.
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1588[14:11:58] <blingrang> How can I change the name of a
service?
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1591[14:12:31] <blingrang> something like: service
<old_name> status to service <new_name> status
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1594[14:12:55] <jelly> RebelCoderW, debian almost never updates
upstream versions during the lifetime of a single release. Debian
8.x won't get Plasma 5, it has KDE 4.x. 9 and onwards will have
something newer.
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1596[14:13:23] <RebelCoderW> jelly: Got it !
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1598[14:14:53] <jelly> blingrang, you can disable the original
one, make a copy and name it differently, but it's a pain
longterm.
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1601[14:15:57] <jelly> blingrang, things will break on each
release upgrade (ie. debian 8 -> debian 9), possibly even if the
package containing that service gets security patches
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1606[14:18:16] <blingrang> jelly: I see, the reason I'm
doing this is because I'm using a third party tool, and between
its versions the service name differs...
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1607[14:18:51] <blingrang> service service3.0 status, service
service4.0 status, etc.
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1608[14:19:09] <blingrang> jelly: but I get what you're
saying.
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1611[14:22:32] <j350> i installed debian 8.5. but gnome-shell is
not working.
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1621[14:27:10] <Lionyx> hello! When i'm on tty (trying to
live only with framebuffer, for fun!), I can use cvlc to play
videos. But there's no way in hell i can make mplayer display
on framebuffer.
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1626[14:30:05] <j350> debian sucks
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1635[14:32:44] <jelly> Lionyx, if you have a framebuffer console,
there's a -vo fb
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1637[14:33:19] <Lionyx> I use mplayer -vo directbuffer ....avi or
something, and get error of not being able to open /dev/tty0...
initialization error
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1639[14:33:52] <jelly> Lionyx, as normal user, logged in at a
console, without any screen or tmux in between?
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1640[14:34:05] <jelly> I have no idea what directbuffer is
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1642[14:34:31] <Lionyx> with -vo fb i get "error
opening/initializing selected video out"
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1643[14:34:43] <jelly> Lionyx, do you have a framebuffer console
at all?
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1644[14:34:51] <Lionyx> i misstiped it i meant directfb
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1645[14:35:36] <Lionyx> Yep, pure console, brought to me by the
miracle of console-setup :D, no screen or tmux
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1646[14:35:48] <Lionyx> cvlc does work, but not mplayer
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1648[14:36:37] <zykotick9> Lionyx: are you using mplayer2? it
doesn't have framebuffer support.
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1649[14:37:19] <Lionyx> zykotick9: yep. this is 2 :(, but manual
says it does.
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1650[14:37:39] <zykotick9> Lionyx: does "mplayer -vo
help" list it?
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1652[14:37:56] <Lionyx> let me see it
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1653[14:38:12] <Lionyx> it only lists directfb support
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1654[14:38:31] <Lionyx> by only i mean, only framebuffer
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1655[14:39:28] <jelly> yeah well. if you go back to 2008 there
will be all sorts of weird -vo in mplayer
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1656[14:40:17] <jelly> however, the X-based stuff is accelerated
and eats less cpu and gpu
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1664[14:42:55] <Lionyx> I guess so
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1665[14:42:57] <zykotick9> Lionyx: sidenote, i only ever got
fbdev and fbdev2 as working framebuffer outputs with mplayer... i
look forward to mplayer's return in the next stable release, in
the hopes of getting framebuffer support again. but best of luck.
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1666[14:43:16] <Lionyx> tks
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1668[14:43:26] <Lionyx> I've got cvlc working on
framebuffer, so i have video :)
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1669[14:43:34] <adac> How can I install docker 1.11.2-0 on
jessie?
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1670[14:44:01] <adac> ahh ok an apt-get uddate first
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1671[14:44:10] <adac> then apt-get install
docker-engine=1.11.2-0~jessie
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1674[14:44:50] <Lionyx> I actually search for the package name
before install (even tought most of the times the install method
returns possible results)
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1676[14:44:59] <Lionyx> apt-cache search docker
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1679[14:45:38] <adac> Lionyx, I think the cache was not updated.
Needed to run and apt-get update first
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1682[14:46:23] <Lionyx> i guess so
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1684[14:48:45] <jelly> adac, you can only install those versions
of docker-engine package that are visible as Candidate in
"apt-cache policy docker-engine"
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1694[14:51:17] <adac> jelly, ok!
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1695[14:51:27] <adac> thanks friends!
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1726[15:03:56] <dionysus69> I installed fingerprint-gui from
source and it doesnt work properly, so now I cant remove it with
apt, how do I remove it?
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1730[15:06:07] <x37> hi #debian. im having an issue mounting.
hoping you can help.
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1732[15:07:05] <x37> first the power went out, i turn my PC back
on, and doesnt boot up properly. grub is fine, but only shows my
background wallpaper image thing, not the login box where i type
password.
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1734[15:07:46] <x37> so no login, i go to tty2 and login as my
user, john. i run startx
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1735[15:07:48] <johnkeates> check your hdd
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1736[15:07:52] <johnkeates> check smart data
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1737[15:07:53] <johnkeates> check fsck
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1738[15:08:21] <x37> everything loads but i cant mount these two
internal drives
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1744[15:10:40] <format_c> you mean verbose?
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1750[15:12:36] <x37> johnkeates, one of the drives is failing
smart, dying slowly, im backing up. i know that.
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1756[15:12:57] <johnkeates> maybe your HBA died
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1757[15:12:58] <x37> im attempting at an fsck, im sda is where my
linux OS is?
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1768[15:18:23] <jelly> x37, to figure out where your filesystems
are supposed to be, look at the output of "lsblk" and
"blkid" and contents of /etc/fstab
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1787[15:25:40] <greycat> -7 means "less than 7"
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1788[15:25:43] <greycat> ... ECHAN
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1789[15:27:24] <iLogic> hey guys, i get permission denied when
trying to access an external hdd (exfat, mounts properly in local
env) with samba.. i've tried all the correct options on the
share, force user, create/directory mask etc and no dice.. do i have
to change permission/ownership? maybe something to do with the group
disk?
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1798[15:31:38] <x37> thanks jelly. turns out fsck.ntfs not found.
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1800[15:31:43] <x37> il keep troubleshooting
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1812[15:36:03] <greycat> NFS problem: no_root_squash is NOT being
recognized. Root on client is getting "Permission denied".
I am trying to do a backup. Need root to be able to read the
users' files to back them up. Client is SQUEEZE. Server is
JESSIE. Help please.
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1813[15:37:42] <greycat> exports line on server (JESSIE): /home
-no_subtree_check arc1(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
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1816[15:38:47] <jelly> x37, there is no decent fsck for ntfs on
linux, at least not a free one
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1819[15:39:18] <greycat> From the client (SQUEEZE) after
mounting: svr4:/home on /nfs/svr4/home type nfs
(rw,nosuid,nodev,hard,intr,sloppy,addr=10.76.142.85)
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1820[15:39:26] <jelly> if you need to fix ntfs, do it from
windows (or some windows-pe live image with chkdsk I guess)
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1824[15:41:02] <jelly> greycat, what does `showmount -e server`
look like from the client?
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1826[15:41:34] <jhutchins> x37: actually, fsck.ntfs is usually a
link to ntfsfix from the ntfs-3g package. Do you have that
installed?
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1827[15:41:37] <greycat> jelly: many lines; the relevant line is:
/home arc1.eeg.ccf.org
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1828[15:41:51] <jelly> jhutchins, that thing is useless if they
need to actually fix issues.
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1829[15:42:08] <x37> jelly, right now im just trying to mount a
couple of drives. says not authorized. not actually looking to fix
issues i think
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1831[15:42:23] <jhutchins> jelly: In situations where you have
ntfs but no Windows install, it can sometimes recover the errors.
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1834[15:42:59] <x37> also lsblk helped. thanks
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1836[15:43:15] <Lope> I need to setup a dedicated server (with a
modern CPU with VT-x, VT-d etc) and need to decide whether to
encapsulate ALL SERVICES inside KVM VM's OR run as much as
possible in docker/LXC on the baremetal and use the bare metal
host's IPtables for all routing and firewalling. If I run more
stuff on the metal I gain (some? not much) performance. If I run
everything in VM's I gain peace of mind, portability of
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1837[15:43:20] <Lope> services, if each VM manages it's own
IPtables, then the rules are easier to reason about and safer manage
automatically, less stress (mistakes/failures are limited to a
particular VM instead of the entire machine), the ability to reboot
VM's and test to confirm services are "ready for a
bare-metal reboot, if/when necessary", VM OS's can be
upgraded or kernels tweaked/tested without risking or causing down
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1838[15:43:25] <Lope> time for the rest of the services. I can go
on and on coming up with more benefits for running ALL SERVICES in
VM's. Basically it seems like I benefit in the most meaningful
way (my time/energy/stress levels/ability to
change/innovate/improve) for a small and fixed cost: performance
(afaik it's +-1-20% depending on CPU/IO intensiveness).
Currently I don't have any performance issues at all, and if I
need mo
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1839[15:43:32] <Lope> re performance in future I can just rent
more hardware. Any thoughts?
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1844[15:44:42] <johnkeates> Lope, use xen
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1848[15:46:21] <dionysus69> I installed fingerprint-gui from
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1849[15:46:21] <Lope> johnkeates: xen/kvm, much of a muchness.
I'm familiar with KVM. The real question is whether to virt
everything or not?
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1850[15:46:33] <johnkeates> dirt everything.
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1851[15:46:35] <johnkeates> virt
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1852[15:46:38] <johnkeates> dont docker
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1853[15:46:56] <johnkeates> with xen performance is 99.999% bare
metal
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1854[15:47:04] <johnkeates> with kvm heavy I/O suffers
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1858[15:47:27] <johnkeates> suggested setup:
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1859[15:47:57] <johnkeates> hypervisor, one VM for NAT+Firewall
(i.e. pfsense) which connects to the outside and on an inside
bridge/ovs, then all other vms connect to that bridge/ovs
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1880[16:00:47] * greycat tries rebooting the NFS server (already tried
rebooting the client, so this is pretty much the last random stupid
thing I can try)
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1886[16:02:21] <greycat> ... did not work.
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1889[16:05:08] <greycat> The "sec=null" workaround from
replaced-url
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1916[16:15:20] <jelly> greycat, apropos silly things, does an
explicit vers=3 as mount option make any difference?
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1918[16:16:00] <greycat> jelly: no.
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replaced-url
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1925[16:17:59] <olivier> Hello, do you know how can I install
wine on debian ?
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1928[16:18:24] <greycat> olivier: apt-get install wine
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1931[16:19:01] <olivier> wine32 ?
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1932[16:19:14] <greycat> What are you trying to do?
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1933[16:19:23] <olivier> because I tried with playonlinux but
playonlinux crash
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1934[16:20:14] <olivier> I tried playonlinux
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1941[16:22:46] <jelly> your root, she is thoroughly squashed
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1942[16:23:00] <SynrG> ,v wine
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1944[16:23:01] <judd> Package: wine on amd64 -- squeeze:
1.0.1-3.1; wheezy: 1.4.1-4; jessie: 1.6.2-20; jessie-backports:
1.8.3-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.8.3-2; sid: 1.8.3-2
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1946[16:23:04] <SynrG> ,v wine-development
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1947[16:23:06] <judd> Package: wine-development on amd64 --
jessie: 1.7.29-4; sid: 1.9.14-1; jessie-backports: 1.9.15-1~bpo8+1;
stretch: 1.9.15-1; sid: 1.9.16-1
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1948[16:23:14] <SynrG> plenty of versions to choose from.
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1950[16:23:34] <greycat> jelly: It used to work before the
machine that *was* the server died. That was my
jessie-with-wheezy-kernel box. The new server is pure jessie with
jessie kernel.
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1951[16:23:38] <SynrG> if you go with POL, you're screwed if
you can't get a particular package to work ...
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1952[16:23:48] <SynrG> winehq won't accept your reports of
issues
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1954[16:24:10] <SynrG> best to just start with a fresh wine
prefix and use one of the available wines in debian
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1955[16:24:21] <olivier> okay
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1957[16:24:31] <SynrG> follow whatever instructions there are at
winehq for whichever apps you want
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1958[16:24:34] <olivier> so what I make for this ?
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1959[16:24:43] <olivier> yes but after, playonlinux crash
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1961[16:25:11] <SynrG> no idea. building a new wine is not the
same thing as running one that is installed from the repo ...
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1962[16:25:15] <SynrG> i imagine it's much easier.
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1963[16:25:16] <TomTomTosch> well, if you want wine32 you need to
enable multiarch.
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1964[16:25:19] <olivier> okay
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1965[16:25:25] <SynrG> ah, and that ^
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1966[16:25:38] <SynrG> .multiarch
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1967[16:25:44] <SynrG> !multiarch
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1968[16:25:44] <dpkg> Multiarch allows you to install foreign
architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be
installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386
&& apt-get update». See
replaced-url
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1969[16:25:50] <olivier> okay and for a other problem, it is
normal kodi crash on debian ?
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1970[16:26:00] <olivier> I have many crashlogs
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1972[16:26:31] <SynrG> which kodi version?
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1973[16:26:48] <olivier> the lastest
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1976[16:27:00] <jelly> greycat, I guess you can always try that
mix, a wheezy kernel and maybe sysvinit
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1977[16:27:09] <jelly> s/maybe/probably/
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1978[16:27:22] <olivier> the lastest version on kodi
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1979[16:27:30] <olivier> do you want a crashlog ?
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1982[16:28:46] <olivier> SynrG : For kodi, do you want a crashlog
?
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1983[16:29:08] <SynrG> no, not at all.
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1984[16:29:14] <SynrG> "latest" is meaningless
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1985[16:29:15] <olivier> okay
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1986[16:29:19] <SynrG> apt-cache policy kodi
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1988[16:29:26] <SynrG> put that at paste.debian.net
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1989[16:29:35] <olivier> I enter this in root ?
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1990[16:29:41] <SynrG> doesn't need to be root
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1991[16:29:52] <olivier> okay
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1995[16:31:00] <SynrG> so, the one from jessie-backports
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1996[16:31:26] <olivier> it's good or not ?
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1997[16:31:44] <SynrG> should be fine. do you use extensions with
that?
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1998[16:31:52] <SynrG> custom theme?
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1999[16:31:55] <TomTomTosch> when does it crash?
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2000[16:32:11] <olivier> SynrG : no
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2001[16:32:26] <olivier> TomTomTosch, when I start kodi
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2003[16:33:18] <SynrG> as per
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2004[16:33:43] <SynrG> i use sid kodi, not jessie-backports, and
have not had crashes.
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2005[16:33:49] <olivier> okay so...
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2006[16:33:52] <SynrG> but before reporting any bugs, tell me ...
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2008[16:33:57] <gannetson> Hey any sysadmin experts online?
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2009[16:33:59] <SynrG> do you use any debian-multimedia packages?
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2010[16:34:02] <SynrG> olivier: ^
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2011[16:34:19] <SynrG> if you do, get rid of all that crap. :p
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2012[16:34:20] <olivier> I don't know I install debian
yesterday
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2013[16:34:25] <gannetson> We have problems with one of our
servers. Timeouts on http(s) and ssh requests.
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2014[16:34:27] <SynrG> !dmm
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2015[16:34:27] <dpkg> We recommend against using
deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause
many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because
the they are poor in quality or for legal reasons. See
replaced-url
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2016[16:34:30] <gannetson> Nothing in the logs....
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2017[16:34:33] <SynrG> olivier: ^^ this stuff
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2018[16:34:49] <SynrG> olivier: if you use that, don't. if
you have pure debian, though, you should be ok.
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2019[16:34:59] <gannetson> Any help / suggestions welcome!
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2020[16:35:03] <olivier> okay I have pure debian
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2023[16:36:18] <olivier> okay so what I make now ?
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2024[16:37:02] <SynrG> olivier: see my link to Report Bugs on
backports. you would ask on the backports mailing list for help with
your issue.
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2025[16:37:32] <olivier> okay but backports is good or not ?
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2026[16:37:45] <SynrG> olivier: if the developer requests the
crashlogs, you could send to the developer. but first, just
summarize your problem. be sure to include the specific debian
version of the package you're having issues with and the nature
of the problem.
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2027[16:37:57] <SynrG> i can't say one way or the other. i
don't use that version. it *should* be good
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2028[16:38:08] <SynrG> it has been in the archive since almost a
month ago.
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2029[16:38:45] <olivier> okay so how can I use kodi now ?
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2032[16:39:08] <joes_22> hi
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2033[16:39:38] <joes_22> Im trying to debug a "Error
connectin" which I get during $ apt-get update
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2034[16:39:49] <SynrG> olivier: as i said, you need to report the
issue you're having with the jessie-backports version of the
package. you might have a bug there that few other users have.
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2035[16:39:53] <joes_22> It doesnt tell me error connecting to
what.
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2036[16:40:08] <SynrG> or some misconfiguration
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2037[16:40:25] <joes_22> any idea how I can get apt to tell me
which connection was refused, I guess its one of those in
sources.list?
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2038[16:40:30] <olivier> okay but do you know alternative to kodi
or not ?
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2039[16:40:35] <SynrG> no.
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2041[16:40:52] <olivier> VLC maybe ?
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2042[16:40:53] <SynrG> there's the older, stable version of
kodi.
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2043[16:41:02] <SynrG> vlc is in no way a replacement for kodi :)
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2044[16:41:21] <olivier> okay but anybody know a replacement for
kodi ?
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2045[16:41:24] <SynrG> but yes, vlc can do some of the things
kodi does
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2046[16:42:06] <olivier> okay so vlc is a replacement for kodi
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2047[16:42:07] <olivier> ?
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2048[16:42:25] <SynrG> it depends. do you need kodi, or do you
just need a video player?
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2049[16:42:35] <olivier> yes
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2050[16:42:48] <joes_22> someone suggested just clearing
everything inside apt.conf
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2051[16:42:53] <joes_22> or apt.conf.d
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2052[16:42:57] <SynrG> yes you need kodi? or yes you just need a
video player?
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2053[16:43:04] <olivier> a video player
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2054[16:43:11] <SynrG> vlc is a fine video player, then.
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2055[16:43:15] <SynrG> so is mpv.
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2056[16:43:26] <olivier> mpv ?
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2059[16:44:06] <stoned> I use smplayer + mpv IIRC
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2060[16:44:22] <SynrG> i can't say if the mpv in jessie is
good, though ... it looks rather old
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2061[16:44:24] <SynrG> and there's no backport
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2062[16:44:30] <olivier> okay thank you for your help...
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2063[16:44:37] <SynrG> you're welcome.
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2064[16:44:49] <stoned> mpv 0.8.3 (C) 2000-2015
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2065[16:44:53] <olivier> bye
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2067[16:44:55] <stoned> Maybe like a year old. At most
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2068[16:45:07] <SynrG> jessie's on 0.6.2
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2069[16:45:29] <stoned> Oh, I think I got mine from
debian-multimedia
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2070[16:45:31] <stoned> let me see
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2071[16:45:36] <SynrG> :P
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2072[16:45:40] <SynrG> ,v mpv
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2073[16:45:41] <judd> Package: mpv on amd64 -- jessie: 0.6.2-2;
sid: 0.18.0-1; stretch: 0.18.0-1; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.8.3-dmo1;
sid-multimedia: 1:0.18.1-dmo2
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2074[16:45:44] <SynrG> looks likely
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2075[16:45:59] <SynrG> great way to completely hose your
multimedia apps :p
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2076[16:46:05] <stoned> What
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2077[16:46:09] <stoned> s a good way to hose what?
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2078[16:46:09] <SynrG> (at least the ones coming from debian)
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2079[16:46:13] <stoned> I don't follow
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2081[16:46:15] <SynrG> using dmm. it's awful
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2082[16:46:20] <stoned> Are you saying that dmm is not bad?
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2083[16:46:22] <stoned> I mean it's bd
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2084[16:46:24] <SynrG> !why not dmm
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2085[16:46:24] <dpkg> The deb-multimedia.org repository was once
the only way of getting good multimedia support. By the release of
Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" this was mostly not true and for
Debian 7 "Wheezy" this situation is even better. Libraries
from dmm are known to cause incompatibilities with packages from
Debian; packages may not meet the <DFSG> so are not allowed in
Debian. Use dmm as a last resort; ask me about <dmm pinning>
and <dmm remove>.
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2086[16:46:26] <stoned> I disagree
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2088[16:46:37] <joes_22> is there any way I can get apt-get
update to tell me which apt-repo is failing "Connection
refused"
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2089[16:47:24] <SynrG> stoned: let me rephrase that. it's a
great way to ensure you don't get support here.
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2090[16:47:25] <greycat> joes_22: paste the entire output of
apt-get update on
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2092[16:47:49] <SynrG> stoned: if you've not been bitten
yet, consider yourself one of the lucky ones.
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2094[16:49:05] <joes_22>
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2095[16:49:13] <jhutchins> Somewhere in the back of my mind is a
file that you can create on a linux system that prevents new logins,
ie when doing maintenance. I thought it was part of the shutdown
process, but I don't find it in the man page.
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2097[16:49:27] <stoned> Christain's packages are good
quality
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2098[16:49:34] <stoned> And there isn't anything debian can
throw my way that I can't handle
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2099[16:49:44] <stoned> Nothing has bitten me in about 15 years.
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2104[16:50:41] <stoned> If it is the official channel stance that
one does not recommend DMM, sure. We don't have to condone it.
But I have been using for 14 years, that I can remember and no
problems yet with any DMM packages
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2107[16:51:04] <SynrG> stoned: i have seen plenty of anecdotal
evidence that suggests otherwise. but i digress :)
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2108[16:51:12] <stoned> *nod*
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2109[16:51:15] <joes_22> greycat: thanks, I just edited out all
extra repos under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/.
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2110[16:51:21] <joes_22> I still get this update error
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2111[16:51:22] <stoned> Not everyone is oldschool/old timer.
Noobs might have issues.
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2113[16:51:30] <stoned> In place of DMM, what do you suggest?
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2114[16:51:47] <SynrG> just using the debian packages. however,
in the case of mpv, i guess, backport it yourself?
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2115[16:51:53] <SynrG> ,checkbackport mpv
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2116[16:51:54] <judd> Backporting package mpv in
sid→jessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies:
Build-Depends: libass-dev (>= 0.12.1~).
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2117[16:52:04] <SynrG> hmm
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2118[16:52:06] <stoned> \o/
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2119[16:52:08] <SynrG> ,checkbackport libass-dev
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2120[16:52:09] <judd> Backporting package libass-dev in
sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
jessie.
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2121[16:52:17] <SynrG> ^^ need to do both
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2122[16:52:21] <stoned> *nod*
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2123[16:52:33] <SynrG> or you could get lucky and soften the dep
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2124[16:52:38] <SynrG> ,v libass-dev
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2125[16:52:39] <judd> Package: libass-dev on amd64 -- squeeze:
0.9.9-1; wheezy: 0.10.0-3; jessie: 0.10.2-3; sid: 0.13.2-1; stretch:
0.13.2-1; sid-multimedia: 1:0.13.2-dmo1
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2127[16:52:49] <SynrG> try it first with the jessie version
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2128[16:53:04] <stoned> Maybe. For now it works. No need to fix
what's not broken.
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2129[16:53:07] * SynrG nods
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2130[16:53:08] <stoned> But it's good to know.
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2132[16:53:33] <SynrG> jhutchins: /etc/nologin ?
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2134[16:54:00] <SynrG> see nologin(5) man page
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2142[16:58:09] <joes_22> anyone have any ideas how I can get info
about what apt is failing to do here?
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2143[16:58:37] <joes_22> it seems like something basic, but I
cant tell there is anything wrong with sources.list
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2147[16:59:48] <joes_22> here is the sources.list
replaced-url
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2165[17:09:30] <azyq> I have a remote machine that does not seem
to boot, I do have access to a rescue system, but when attempting to
reboot it doesn't even log anything to /var/log any idea how I
could pinpoint the issue?
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2166[17:10:50] <jhutchins> SynrG: Yeah, that's what I
thought.
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2177[17:13:26] <jhutchins> man 5 instead of man 8.
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2180[17:14:17] <azyq> if it helps, I did try to upgrade from
wheezy to jessie and tried to reboot beforehand
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2196[17:19:12] <TheSin> I have a sorta odd question, I have a
bunch of servers, and I run postfix and logcheck on all of them
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2198[17:20:00] <TheSin> one server in the logs I get
postfix/smtpd postfix/local etc etc, all the other servers I only
see smtp or local not postfix/ prefix which means the logcheck
filtering isn't work on all those servers
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2200[17:20:27] <TheSin> what adds or removes the postfix/ prefix
in the logs? all servers are systemd and running syslog-ng if that
makes a diff
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2210[17:24:42] <damo22> im on stretch, which is the package for
CA certificates?
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2211[17:24:49] <damo22> for my browser
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2224[17:28:20] <mangas> this one might help
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2225[17:29:01] <azyq> uh oh, I figured it out for some reason I
had to run grub-install
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2235[17:31:25] <damo22> is anyone on stretch here? does
h-node.org say unknown ssl cert issuer?
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2236[17:31:36] <greycat> !debian-next
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2237[17:31:37] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2238[17:31:48] <damo22> ok
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2307[18:03:09] <philipp64|work> Hi. I'm seeing some
weirdness which I can't explain. I compile a trivial C program
and link it, but when I try to run it I get "Permission
denied" even though the executable is 755.
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2308[18:03:34] <philipp64|work> Anyone understand what's
going on or why the system is refusing to execute it?
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2310[18:04:05] <sypher> philipp64|work: Is the filesystem mounted
noexec?
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2311[18:04:22] <philipp64|work> errr... is that the default?
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2312[18:04:33] <sypher> philipp64|work: pastebin the output of
"mount".
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2313[18:04:50] <philipp64|work> doh.
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2314[18:04:57] <philipp64|work> /dev/sdb1 on
/home/pprindev/workspace type ext4
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,data=ordered)
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2315[18:05:05] <sypher> philipp64|work: There ya go.
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2318[18:05:28] <philipp64|work> didn't realize that on a
bind-point that those controls applied... oops. thought they were
inherited from the original mount.
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2327[18:11:21] <kaerF> Hi, I'm trying to install Debian with
a preconfiguration using this mini iso
(ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-amd64/20160630/images/netboot/mini.iso).
When using with preseed, the installer doesn't seem to
configure the network before it tries downloading packages, then
fails. Is this the fault of the preseed or the installer's?
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2330[18:13:43] <BenNZ> kaerF: can depend of the reason its
failed, if not using the same mirror as the iso file there could be
different versions of files required , thats why i usually use the
main mirror
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2335[18:15:13] <kaerF> BenNZ: it tries downloading libc6-udev,
then fails, because it never asks for mirrors, networking, or
anything. it goes straight to package download.
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2337[18:16:01] <kaerF> fwiw, this is the preseed
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2340[18:18:49] <BenNZ> kaerF: firefox wont let me open the
preseed , complains about the website being insecure , if you dont
use the preseed does it work properly?
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2343[18:19:48] <kaerF> BenNZ: it's a self-signed
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2348[18:21:20] <BenNZ> kaerF: not an expert but sounds like a
preseed file problem , not sure tho how to fix
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2349[18:22:25] <kaerF> ah darnit, sorry BenNZ I just went through
the installer without the preseed and it fails downloading
libc6-udeb. thanks for your trouble, seems to be the installer is
buggy.
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2350[18:22:43] <x37> im in gnome, debian, the sudoers file, what
can i do to mount a drive
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2351[18:23:09] <kro_> i want a help about tcl install please, i
make this
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2352[18:23:23] <kro_> apt-get install tcl
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2353[18:23:32] <kro_> apt-get install tcl-dev
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2354[18:23:43] <kro_> apt-get install tcllib
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2355[18:24:14] <kro_> and now rest the ./configure ? i don't
know how to proceed
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2356[18:24:17] <x37> it says not authorized
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2357[18:24:29] <greycat> kro_: ./configure of what?
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2358[18:24:34] <kro_> wait
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2359[18:25:09] <kro_> ./configure
'--with-tcllib=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtcl.so'
'--with-tclinc=/usr/include/tcl/tcl.h'
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2361[18:25:22] <greycat> kro_: what are you trying to do?
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2362[18:26:02] <kro_> i want to install tcl, it's necessary
to install after an eggdrop...
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2363[18:26:17] <greycat> You HAVE installed tcl.
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2365[18:26:29] <greycat> So what you are actually trying to do is
build eggdrop from source?
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2367[18:26:37] <digdilem> you probably don't want tcl or
eggdrop. horrid software
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2370[18:27:30] <molwy> o/
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2371[18:27:34] <kro_> but when i run ./configure:
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2373[18:27:43] <kro_> bash: ./configure: no such file or folder
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2375[18:27:48] <greycat> ... oh my fucking god.
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2377[18:27:51] <LaNoob> re
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2378[18:27:53] <greycat> Unhelpable.
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2380[18:29:02] <greycat> Since I'm stupid enough to try....
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2382[18:29:14] <asarch> ,,kernel
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2383[18:29:24] <greycat> kro_: You only use ./configure if you
are compiling (building) something FROM SOURCE CODE. If you are just
trying to install eggdrop, you don't need all that.
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2384[18:29:33] <greycat> ,v eggdrop
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2385[18:29:34] <judd> Package: eggdrop on amd64 -- squeeze:
1.6.19-1.2; wheezy: 1.6.20-1; stretch: 1.6.21-4; sid: 1.6.21-4;
jessie: 1.6.21-4
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2386[18:29:40] <greycat> You can simply apt-get install eggdrop.
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2389[18:30:12] <kro_> greycat ok
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2391[18:30:20] <kro_> i try this know
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2393[18:31:29] <kro_> how to run it after apt-get install eggdrop
?
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2395[18:31:48] <greycat> I don't know. Try "man -k
eggdrop" or "cd /usr/share/doc/eggdrop ; ls"
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2398[18:32:07] <kro_> ok
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2399[18:32:29] <Fr_Dae> kro_ juste apt
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2401[18:32:42] <Fr_Dae> apt-get don't usefull anymore
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2402[18:32:47] <digdilem> kro_, from memory, just run
"eggdrop" as a user.
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2403[18:32:51] <Fr_Dae> apt = apt-get with color and progress bar
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2404[18:32:58] <digdilem> you can also use --help and specify a
config file
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2408[18:33:22] <kro_> ok
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2409[18:33:55] <mbn_18> Hi, how can I set the timezone in one
line without the need to select from menu interface?
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2411[18:34:13] <digdilem> there's a lot of documentation.
unfortunately none of it helps eggdrop be better software. it's
old, fiddly and tcl as a scripting language is medically proven to
cause migraine.
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2412[18:34:47] <greycat> Tcl is not bad.
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2415[18:35:55] <greycat> !start a language war
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2416[18:35:55] <dpkg> Pascal is more readable than C
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2427[18:40:19] <sm00th> unbelieveable
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2436[18:46:02] <daifuco> last friday I installed debian for the
first time in years, it was testing, today I installed (to stay)
jessie but audio is not working, what should I try? newer kernel?
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2458[18:54:57] <jhutchins> !alsa checklist
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2459[18:54:58] <dpkg> 1) add yourself to the 'audio'
group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/
alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if
available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4)
speakers on? 5) does "aplay
/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any
installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also
<list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
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2460[18:55:34] <jhutchins> !pulseaudio
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2461[18:55:35] <dpkg> PulseAudio (formerly Polypaudio) is a
cross-platform network sound server, intended as a drop-in
replacement for <ESD>. Packaged for Debian since 4.0
"Etch", read /usr/share/doc/pulseaudio/README.Debian after
installation for configuration recommendations; Debian specific
how-to is at
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2462[18:55:54] * extor wants to go from a fresh install of debian
yesterday to this lxde/openbox setup
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2463[18:56:11] <daifuco> thanks jhutchins
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2465[18:56:34] <extor> I guess I just want transparent terminals,
and perhaps a simple green and black theme. I don't want the
fancy dashboard
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2482[19:01:53] <jhutchins> extor: You'd probably need to
contact whoever set that up.
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2485[19:02:27] <madprops> hi, I installed wordpress using the
debian wiki
replaced-url
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2488[19:03:58] <Fjorgynn> I see
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2490[19:04:24] <Fjorgynn> madprops: I myself downloaded the zip
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2492[19:04:34] <Fjorgynn> madprops: do you use apache2?
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2494[19:04:39] <madprops> yep
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2495[19:04:58] <Fjorgynn> the /var/replaced-url
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2497[19:05:40] <Fjorgynn> go to /var/replaced-url
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2498[19:05:43] <Fjorgynn> wget
replaced-url
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2499[19:05:50] <Fjorgynn> tar -zxvf latest.tar.gz
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2501[19:06:00] <Fjorgynn> much easier
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2502[19:06:16] <madprops> hmm
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2504[19:06:27] <madprops> i kinda wanted to stick to
debian's package .. but if there's nothing else i can do
i'll do that
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2508[19:07:20] <Fjorgynn> ok
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2509[19:07:22] <Fjorgynn> Version: 4.1+dfsg-1+deb8u9
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2510[19:07:30] <Fjorgynn> the wordpress.org has 4.5.3
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2513[19:07:58] <Fjorgynn> maybe /var/replaced-url
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2515[19:08:13] <Fjorgynn> that's my only suggestion
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2517[19:09:09] <digdilem> madprops, is there a readme.debian or
documentation in /usr/share/wordpress that helps?
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2519[19:10:08] <madprops> there's a readme.html
replaced-url
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2520[19:10:22] <madprops> but it's wordpress's
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2521[19:10:59] <Fjorgynn> ln -s /usr/share/wordpress /var/replaced-url
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2523[19:11:39] <madprops> hmmmm
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2527[19:13:02] <madprops> so if i put an index.php in /var/replaced-url
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2528[19:13:15] <madprops> right now wordpress works in
site.com/wp
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2529[19:13:17] <greycat> Not in jessie.
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2530[19:13:20] <Fjorgynn> :((
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2531[19:13:25] <greycat> In wheezy, yeah.
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2533[19:14:02] <madprops> hmm
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2534[19:14:03] <greycat> Jessie moved the default DocumentRoot to
/var/replaced-url
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2537[19:15:05] <madprops> oh hmmm
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2539[19:15:40] <madprops> well it's not working i still get
bad request 400 ..
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2540[19:15:43] <madprops> it has a subdomain btw
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2541[19:15:45] <madprops> something.site.com
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2542[19:15:59] <madprops> the only 'routing' to that
domain i did was a config file in wordpress
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2543[19:16:11] <jhutchins> greycat: Other distros have been
defaulting to that path for a while.
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2545[19:16:57] <madprops> guess im installing wordpress manually
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2547[19:18:39] <digdilem> for a domain to work with apache, let
alone wordpress, you need to set up an apache config as well as set
the dns to point to that server
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2549[19:19:56] <psycho> guys, how to disable DE in debian
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2551[19:20:26] <digdilem> madprops, the apache config tells the
user which directory to load index.php from
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2553[19:21:00] <digdilem> (sorry, badly worded - the apache
config knows which directory to look for index.php to serve to the
user)
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2556[19:21:48] <greycat> For
replaced-url
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2557[19:22:13] <greycat> It may be sufficient to give it a
non-default DocumentRoot. Or it may take more.
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2564[19:25:09] <madprops> this is the only apache conf i made for
wp
replaced-url
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2565[19:25:20] <madprops> oh hmm
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2566[19:25:26] <madprops> guess it's just changing /wp to /
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2567[19:26:12] <madprops> if i change it i get
"Forbidden"
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2577[19:31:22] <madprops> i guess it's because of the /html
thing
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2578[19:31:29] <madprops> or idk
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2582[19:31:49] <greycat> I really do suggest the virtual domain
route. Quite strongly.
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2584[19:32:15] <digdilem> me too, it's neater and a much
better way to organise a multi-site server.
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2585[19:32:29] <madprops> not sure what you mean by virtual
domain route
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2587[19:33:03] <digdilem> madprops, something like this;
replaced-url
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2589[19:33:34] <madprops> oh you mean a vhost
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2591[19:33:59] <digdilem> once you have dns pointing to your
chosen domain, set apache up for the same dns, visit it and then
wordpress's auto-config page should load. If you get an error,
check apache's error.log and work the problem through
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2595[19:35:05] <madprops> yeah but it's probably not that
easy with debian's package .. as it seems it's split in 2
directories
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2596[19:35:13] <madprops> i think im gonna ... do it from scratch
downloading the zip
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2597[19:35:23] <digdilem> the vhosts would normally be in
/etc/apache/sites_available and one per domain
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2600[19:35:38] <digdilem> then you'd enable each with
"a2ensite configname"
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2601[19:36:00] <greycat> that's /etc/apache2/
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2602[19:36:07] <digdilem> there's a default config in that
directory which kinda shows you what to do
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2603[19:36:11] <digdilem> greycat, ah, yes. well spotted
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2605[19:36:29] <madprops> yeah i have tons of vhosts
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2606[19:36:38] <madprops> i run several applications in this
server
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2607[19:36:47] <digdilem> then do what you've done before :)
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2609[19:36:50] <SteppenII> m
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2612[19:38:29] <madprops> wish linux had an 'undo'
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2613[19:38:34] <madprops> afaik it doesn't have one
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2614[19:38:47] <madprops> liek you can really mess something up
by rm the wrong thing
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2626[19:43:16] <Fox682> VM's work great, they have undo
buttons lol
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2630[19:45:08] <OrbsTheorem> configuring the kernel for iptables
nat support is so complicated...
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2632[19:45:21] <mernilio> Hi all! :-) I have forgotten the
offtopic channel?
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2633[19:45:33] <missmbob> !ot
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2634[19:45:33] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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2637[19:46:04] <mernilio> ahh .. thanks missmbob
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2643[19:48:20] <pseudonymous> Given
replaced-url
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2645[19:50:36] <sypher> pseudonymous: Line 3 seems to conflict
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2647[19:50:58] <pseudonymous> sypher: woops, very true
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2662[19:54:16] <Fox682> oh! i have this weird problem with my
debian installs and VMs, on my machines it takes For EVER to
initialize the Network... sits there for like 30 seconds waiting to
bring up the network and it driving my boot time waaaay up.
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2663[19:54:36] <pseudonymous> Fox682: sounds like it's
simply timing out
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2667[19:56:02] <Fox682> yeah it is... is there an easy way to
delay the network config so it waits a little bit longer to try to
get the interfaces up?"
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2669[19:57:18] <sypher> Fox682: Try setting the interface
definition to "allow-hotplug". It'll let the system
boot and bring up the NIC when it's able.
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2673[19:57:58] <Fox682> I can probably find it, but off hand do
you know the name of the config file?
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2675[19:58:11] <pseudonymous> Fox682: sounds like
/etc/networking/interfaces
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2677[19:58:24] <Fox682> ah, that sounds right
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2679[19:58:25] <sypher> /etc/network/interfaces
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2680[19:58:26] <greycat> YM /etc/network/interfaces
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2682[19:58:51] <olivier> how can I enable flash and silverlight
on debian ?
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2686[19:59:31] <missmbob> !silverlight
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2687[19:59:31] <dpkg> Moonlight was an open source implementation
of Microsoft Silverlight for Linux and other Unix-based systems.
Silverlight is used to deliver interactive audio and video through a
web browser, similar to <Adobe Flash>. Previously packaged for
Debian (never part of a stable release), removed to resolve Debian
bug #638565. Moonlight's development has been discontinued.
replaced-url
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2688[19:59:39] <missmbob> discontinued...
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2689[19:59:49] <missmbob> !tell olivier about flash
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2691[20:00:09] <olivier> and for flash ?
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2692[20:00:22] <teraflops> olivier: for silverlight you use
pipelight or nothing ^
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2695[20:00:39] <olivier> because I tried with pipelight and I
enable silverlight but it's not work
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2696[20:00:41] <pseudonymous> olivier: I'm guessing you want
to stream Netflix or something like that. Since silverlight
isn't on Linux most people have used a packaged version of
Firefox & Silverlight in a Wine (winehq.org) installation to do
that.
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2697[20:00:46] <missmbob> pipelight works for only really old
versions of chrome, right?
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2698[20:00:50] <olivier> yes I want to stream netflix
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2699[20:00:53] <missmbob> olivier: the bot told you what to do
about flash
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2700[20:01:02] <pseudonymous> Pipelight works for Firefox, too. I
never used Chrome
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2701[20:01:06] <missmbob> olivier: you should've said. none
of those will help you with netflix
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2702[20:01:17] <missmbob> olivier: netflix works on 64-bit chrome
(not chromium)
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2703[20:01:25] <teraflops> pipelight only works with firefox
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2704[20:01:59] <teraflops> olivier: if you want netflix on debian
just use chrome
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2705[20:02:04] <pseudonymous> ... and pipelight+firefox worked
for me with netflix. But you may need to alter the browser's
user agent. TL;DR, be prepared for some research, Olivier
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2710[20:02:32] <missmbob> there is no research. 64-bit chrome
just works out of the box
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2712[20:02:36] <teraflops> pseudonymous: pipelight is a good
choice for 1080p since videvine only does 720p
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2713[20:02:50] <teraflops> widevine*
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2714[20:02:57] <olivier> on ubuntu, pipelight work on chromium
but on debian i don't know and flash work with pipelight on
firefox but not silverlight
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2715[20:03:01] <pseudonymous> missmbob: chrome is *not* an option
if you care the least about privacy.. Eww
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2718[20:03:20] <missmbob> pseudonymous: good for you
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2719[20:03:30] <pseudonymous> I know ^^
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2720[20:03:34] <teraflops> olivier: for chromium there's
widevine too, it does not work on debian builds though
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2722[20:03:59] <olivier> okay
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2725[20:04:31] <mass> peace
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2727[20:04:46] <no0bs1337> !help
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2728[20:04:51] <no0bs1337> !topic
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2729[20:04:52] <olivier> okay so no netflix on debian ?
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2730[20:05:01] <mass> use wine
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2731[20:05:10] <Fox682> possibly through chrome i heard?
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2732[20:05:10] <missmbob> olivier: chrome works with netflix on
debian
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2733[20:05:10] <olivier> I have a little problem with wine
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2734[20:05:11] <no0bs1337> olivier, use google chrome !!!
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2735[20:05:18] <teraflops> chrome does netflix on debian
out-of-the-box
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2736[20:05:20] <missmbob> he doesn't listen.
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2737[20:05:25] <pseudonymous> olivier: we just told you. You can
use Chrome or Pipelight+Firefox (for instance)
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2738[20:05:32] <olivier> okay thank you
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2739[20:05:55] <teraflops> olivier: … or setup pipelight +
firefox
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2740[20:06:14] <olivier> I setup pipelight+firefox
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2741[20:06:39] <missmbob> which will soon not work because
firefox is dropped npapi support. smart option.
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2742[20:06:42] <mass> if wine have problem use playonlinux
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2743[20:07:06] <olivier> I use playonlinux but playonlinux crash
when i try to install a .exe
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2745[20:07:29] <OrbsTheorem> oldschool :)
replaced-url
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2748[20:08:14] <mass> use kodi addone
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2749[20:08:14] <pseudonymous> olivier: you need to take things
slow. It took me about 2 months to get everything I wanted working
on Linux when I started. Take the time to study and learn
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2751[20:08:33] <`Kevin> ^ first step, skip wine etc
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2752[20:08:35] <teraflops> mass: kodi addon for what?
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2754[20:08:40] <mass> install kodi and addone netflix
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2756[20:08:51] <missmbob> mass: you're not helping
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2757[20:08:55] <olivier> my kodi crash when I start it
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2760[20:09:10] <olivier> I install kodi but kodi crash
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2761[20:09:14] <teraflops> ^ netflix addon uses the external
browser
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2762[20:09:22] <no0bs1337> teraflops, Strage. I use google netlix
on my debian box VM , with google chrome. I use testing
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2763[20:09:34] <no0bs1337> teraflops, **strange
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2766[20:10:07] <olivier> I tried everything for kodi but kodi
crash
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2767[20:10:08] <teraflops> what's strange? we said chrome
does netflix out of the box
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2768[20:10:10] <missmbob> no0bs1337: that's not strange.
chrome 64-bit works on debian. the end.
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2769[20:10:21] <no0bs1337> missmbob, Ok.
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2770[20:10:26] <teraflops> olivier: again the kodi addon just
call your web browser
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2771[20:10:42] <olivier> okay
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2773[20:10:51] <mass> wine crash and playonlinux crash and kodi
crash whats that all crshed with you !
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2776[20:11:08] <olivier> I know
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2778[20:11:16] <missmbob> wine and playonlinux is basically same
code and sucks for newbies. kodi i don't know
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2780[20:12:43] <olivier> Error in POL_Wine
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2781[20:12:50] <olivier> I have this on playonlinux
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2782[20:12:54] <mass> i know playonlinux is wine bassid but some
one exe work on playonlinux better
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2783[20:13:24] <teraflops> olivier: wine can be a pain you better
ask in #wine too
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2784[20:13:35] <Flippylosaurus> Is there a XBMC channel here?
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2785[20:13:36] <teraflops> #wine or whatever
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2786[20:13:43] <olivier> okay and for kodi ?
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2787[20:13:47] <olivier> #kodi ?
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2789[20:14:14] <olivier> with kodi i have many crashlogs
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2790[20:14:22] <baraba> xbmc is now called kodi Flippylosaurus
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2791[20:14:31] <missmbob> it's #winehq not #wine...fyi
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2792[20:14:45] <missmbob> this all seems very silly to just
access netflix
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2793[20:14:54] <Flippylosaurus> baraba: ah. Didn't touch it
in 3 years or so, ty
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2795[20:15:25] <teraflops> olivier: usually koodi crashes are
related to hw acceleration, just disable all the 3rd party addons
for making yourself sure it's not a borked addon
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2796[20:15:29] <teraflops> kodi*
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2797[20:16:32] <mass> add refresh addon
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2799[20:16:41] <`Kevin> possible dumb question, are you perhaps
running kodi under wine/playonlinux?
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2800[20:16:49] <teraflops> heh
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2803[20:17:31] <mass> kodi work on linux without wine
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2804[20:17:56] <`Kevin> clearly :P
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2805[20:17:58] <mass> its work for linux
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2807[20:18:19] <teraflops> it works almost everywhere
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2808[20:18:28] <missmbob> `Kevin: if you knew the history
you'd know it's not a crazy question considering who
he's asking
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2810[20:18:34] <missmbob> oops mass ^
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2811[20:18:40] <olivier>
replaced-url
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2813[20:18:45] <olivier> crashlog for kodi
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2822[20:21:01] <olivier> okay so I have to go, thank your for
your help
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2823[20:21:02] <olivier> bye
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2831[20:22:23] <teraflops> missmbob: is this olivier the french
guy from yesterday that was unable to install debian ?
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2835[20:23:40] <missmbob> teraflops: my logs say the ip matches
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2837[20:23:50] <teraflops> oh
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2858[20:33:33] <madprops> wordpress installed
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2862[20:34:12] <mass_> mm
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2867[20:34:43] <mass_>
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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2870[20:35:16] <pseudonymous> eww, eeeeeereplaced-url
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2876[20:37:32] <mass> how i can change mouse pointer on debian
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2880[20:38:04] <teraflops> it depends on your DE/WM
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2882[20:38:12] <mass> its change only on app like firefox
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2883[20:38:14] <pseudonymous> mass: usually your desktop
environment (KDE, XFCE, Gnome) will allow you to do that
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2885[20:38:16] <leba2> Has anyone tried to mount an external usb
hdd formatted in ntfs? Because I'm getting "cannot create
regular file [...] read-only file system" error...
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2887[20:38:31] <mass> mate
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2888[20:38:38] <leba2> I mean, it mounts correctly, but I get
that when trying to copy a file
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2889[20:38:41] <missmbob> leba2: you have to use ntfs-3g. the
default kernel module is read only
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2891[20:38:53] <missmbob> !tell leba2 about ntfs-3g
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2893[20:39:09] <pseudonymous> leba2: by default almost nothing
will allow you to mount NTFS in read/write mode. It's a
proprietary closed-source filesystem so its functions have to be
reverse engineered, hence no one feels like allowing you to corrupt
your filesystem :)
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2895[20:39:29] <missmbob> ntfs-3g does a great job writing these
days
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2897[20:39:51] <leba2> Oohh, so I need to indeed install the ntfs
tools, and more because I did a minimal Debian installation...
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2898[20:39:55] <pseudonymous> Still woudln't trust my files
to it. Just use FAT32 or suck it up and share files via Samba or
something.
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2900[20:40:33] <missmbob> pseudonymous: not that possible these
days. vfat limit of 4g files...no thanks
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2902[20:41:04] <pseudonymous> missmbob: rather that than
corruption, also, splitting files and reassembling them is rather
trivial.
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2903[20:41:19] <missmbob> pseudonymous: corruption can be solved
with write verification, etc.
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2914[20:43:11] <pseudonymous> missmbob: your files, man.
I've just had enough dead NTFS filesystems to leave well enough
alone
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2915[20:43:34] <r6ku> there was some cli command for changing the
default pointer theme, which would fix the inconsistent theme
problem, but I forgot what it was :p
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2917[20:44:31] <sypher> missmbob: Your funeral if you use NTFS.
Even Windows can't get NTFS right, and you think that ntfs-3g
is your go-to? Not a good plan.
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2920[20:45:15] <missmbob> sypher: when did i say that? i said
ntfs-3g does a great job writing. of course i use ext4 when
possible.
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2924[20:45:36] <missmbob> sypher: you can't reformat
everything. work with what you've got
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2925[20:45:46] <sypher> missmbob: K. You have fun with that.
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2927[20:46:00] <missmbob> sypher: most tv's dont accept ext4
flash drives. they do accept ntfs
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2929[20:46:13] <missmbob> perfect example
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2931[20:47:22] <pseudonymous> missmbob: yes it is, because
that's a usecase where you don't care if the filesystem
becomes corrupt, it's just an episode of The Big Bang, after
all
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2932[20:47:47] <missmbob> i never said it wasn't
corruptable. man. so many assumptions.
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2933[20:47:51] <pseudonymous> The point is that NTFS is an
evolving, closed-source filesystem which Microsoft has zero interest
in you using
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2935[20:48:41] <missmbob> just take what i said at face value and
don't keep reading what you think into it.
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2936[20:49:05] <pseudonymous> We're not talking about
whether or not NTFS is corruptible, of course it is, I doubt it even
checksums metadata. The point is that the way the files and metadata
is laid out isn't formally defined in a standard somewhere, so
people are just winging it. Hence you're extremely likely to
destroy an NTFS filesystem when writing to it from Linux.
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2938[20:49:42] <simonlnu> not IME
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2939[20:49:50] <missmbob> extremely likely? no
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2944[20:50:01] <missmbob> ntfs-3g is not the old school ntfs
driver that it was.
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3033[20:50:22] <pseudonymous> missmbob: and NTFS is not the same
filesystem it was in XP, either
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3070[20:50:41] <simonlnu> i've rsynced stuff to/from wincrap
enough times that i find it reliable enough for basic writing.
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3095[20:51:20] <simonlnu> i'm not going to rely on some
hypothetical say-so, i'm going to go on personal experience.
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3096[20:51:23] <pseudonymous> Great. You know hundreds of people
also find Btrfs reliable enough for day-to-day ops, until some
guy's usecase hit a new cornercase and his FS blows up
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3099[20:51:47] <simonlnu> there's always corner cases.
it's the nature of the beast.
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3101[20:52:00] <simonlnu> it's software. there's always
bugs.
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3102[20:52:01] <missmbob> corner doesn't mean
"extremely likely"
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3104[20:52:14] <pseudonymous> There's a reason why
enterprise etc hold off on adopting filesystems for years. Just
saying. If it's an acceptable risk (again, we're
transferring media files so our smart TV) then that's fine,
that's all I'm saying
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3111[20:52:58] <simonlnu> i'm not "enterprise", i
don't have a spaceship on my balcony.
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3112[20:53:03] <pseudonymous> missmbob: btrfs is documented &
open source, there, it's corner-cases. But whenever MS releases
a new copy of Windows with new additions to NTFS which have to be
discovered & reverse engineered, you're running the risk of
blowing up your NTFS partitions.
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3116[20:53:28] <pseudonymous> simonlnu: again, you may have
family photos on that partition
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3118[20:53:43] <simonlnu> no sense of humour: check
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3119[20:53:46] <missmbob> pseudonymous: not quite so much. they
have to have backward compatibility to a certain extent for older
versions of windows. xp can read win 10 formated ntfs usb
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3123[20:54:19] <pseudonymous> Hell, who am I to caution you. Use
whatever the heck you want, I'm just not comfortable with
recommending random people seeking help here to do the same thing
without at least informing them that they might want to think twice.
Any informed decision is fine.
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3124[20:54:56] <missmbob> i wasn't randomly doing anything.
they asked how to write to ntfs. ntfs-3g. the end.
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3130[20:55:29] <pseudonymous> Telling people to use ntfs-3g to
write to a ntfs partition is akin to helping people scan & send
their passport via Email
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3131[20:55:39] <missmbob> pseudonymous: i'm sorry to tell
you there's a risk of you getting in a car accident today
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3132[20:55:55] <missmbob> oh wtf
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3133[20:55:57] <pseudonymous> yea, you could tell them how to,
but you should probably preface it with "You probably
don't want to do this, FYI"
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3134[20:55:58] <missmbob> that's bullshit
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3136[20:56:24] <missmbob> i don't give a shit. i'm
going for a smoke. that's some serious ass talking there
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3139[20:56:46] <sypher> Nice attitude.
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3144[20:58:08] <greycat> Err, what's wrong with ntfs-3g
exactly?
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3145[20:58:28] <simonlnu> pseudonymous: you can't save the
world. chill.
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3146[20:59:21] <pseudonymous> simonlnu: I am quite relaxed, only
two or three veins are bulging atm
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3147[20:59:29] <missmbob> it'd be nice to get a real answer
to greycat
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3148[20:59:43] <missmbob> what you've said so far has been
...well...clueless
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3149[20:59:52] <sypher> pseudonymous: What's the threshold?
:P
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3150[20:59:59] <pseudonymous> missmbob: have you written a kernel
level filesystem ? I have, so yea.
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3151[21:00:14] <pseudonymous> (admittedly it was not the best or
fastest one :P )
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3153[21:00:44] <missmbob> pseudonymous: not an answer.
that's an ad hominem fallacy
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3159[21:01:53] <pseudonymous> greycat: it's fine for reading
your filesystem. It's just that a filesystem has a lot of
metadata that stores where files are placed, governs allocation
strategies et cetera. NTFS-3G has the disadvantage that Microsoft
doesn't tell anyone how it's done in NTFS so people have
to examine the patterns of existing file systems to try and work out
(reverse-engineer) how it's done and if they get that
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3163[21:01:59] <pseudonymous> wrong, they might corrupt your
filesystem.
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3170[21:02:49] <pseudonymous> missmbob: I'm merely implying
that my opinion is probably better informed than yours
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3172[21:03:02] <pseudonymous> Given that 8 months of my life was
about writing a file system.
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3173[21:03:31] <greycat> I can accept "I don't believe
ntfs-3g has been sufficiently well tested" as an answer. But
that's still a far cry from "it's like giving people
a copy of your passport".
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3176[21:04:48] <pseudonymous> greycat: wasn't exactly what I
said either. I was saying that simply answering how to accomplish
something isn't always good help - sometimes you need to tell
them that what they're trying to achieve shouldn't be
attempted, at least not without understanding the potential dangers.
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3179[21:05:23] <bh2> .
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3180[21:05:30] <kulelu88> Hello
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3181[21:05:34] <simonlnu> pseudonymous: it *used* to be that way.
but ntfs-3g has made a lot of breakthroughs in the last years that
it's become a lot more reliable.
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3182[21:05:50] <kulelu88> where can I find the .deb package of
this: libpeas-1.0-0-python2loader ?
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3183[21:05:59] <simonlnu> to the point of being able to write to
it with little to no issues.
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3186[21:06:24] <pseudonymous> simonlnu: I'm not implying
it's bad, but until Microsoft definitely releases a
specification on how to interpret & manipulate the file system
structures, you're playing with fire.
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3187[21:06:47] * simonlnu plays with fire a lot, "i'm used to
it ;)"
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3192[21:07:49] <CutMeOwnThroat> windows also has to write to
ntfs... there can't be changes to the file system that blow up
when older windows versions write to ntfs
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3193[21:07:50] <greycat> When you work with black-box non-free
systems (e.g. Microsoft file systems), you have to treat it like
scientific research. You make your best guesses, you write the code,
you test and test and test. Eventually you reach the point where no
more problems are observed, and the you call it "stable".
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3199[21:08:22] <greycat> You're never going to get the
specifications.
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3201[21:08:35] <pseudonymous> Exactly, that's all I'm
saying
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3202[21:09:08] <CutMeOwnThroat> kulelu88, don't think
there's a package in debian for that
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3203[21:09:19] <kulelu88> Doesn't Debian package blackbox
firmware?
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3205[21:09:31] <greycat> In non-free.
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3208[21:10:56] <OrbsTheorem> Does ssh uses kernel resolver or has
it's own stuff?
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3210[21:11:07] <greycat> It uses the regular libc (not kernel)
resolver.
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3212[21:11:49] <OrbsTheorem> ping from iputils uses libc resolver
aswell isn't it?
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3216[21:12:07] <greycat> But nslookup, dig, host do not.
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dns....
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3221[21:12:41] <OrbsTheorem> then why ping epfl.ch pings the
right address and ssh uses the router address (ssh -vvv...)
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3222[21:12:44] <OrbsTheorem> ?
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3224[21:13:30] <greycat> a) what does "type ssh" say?
b) did you configure anything for "epfl.ch" in your
~/.ssh/config ?
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3227[21:13:57] <teraflops> OrbsTheorem: you're wrong
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3229[21:14:19] <OrbsTheorem> ssh is the right binary
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3230[21:14:20] <greycat> well, the problem is to figure out *why*
he's wrong
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3231[21:14:28] <greycat> OrbsTheorem: it says *what* exactly?
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3232[21:14:29] <OrbsTheorem> well, there's an alias for
epfl.ch
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3233[21:14:31] <OrbsTheorem> wait
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3234[21:14:32] <kulelu88> I seem to have found libpeas here:
replaced-url
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3235[21:14:39] <greycat> OK, sounds like you're getting to
it then.
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3237[21:15:03] <greycat> kulelu88: if it isn't packaged in
Debian, then you may have to install it from the upstream code. DO
NOT use an ubuntu package.
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3238[21:15:12] <teraflops> well but I mean
replaced-url
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3240[21:15:45] <OrbsTheorem> I just logged in a captiva portal
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3241[21:15:53] <teraflops> it's the same ip
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3242[21:15:56] <OrbsTheorem>
replaced-url
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3243[21:16:02] <kulelu88> greycat: I came here asking about it
because it looks like there is an issue with gedit plugins not
working because they are missing this lib
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3244[21:16:05] <OrbsTheorem> that's the output from ssh
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3245[21:16:07] <teraflops> OrbsTheorem: ^
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3248[21:16:34] <greycat> OrbsTheorem: and did you find something
relevant in ~/.ssh/config? It sounded like you had.
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3252[21:16:57] <bizarrefish> Hi all
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3254[21:17:18] <bizarrefish> Does anyone know where /run is
mounted as tmpfs?
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3256[21:17:21] <bizarrefish> I can't find it
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3257[21:17:28] <kulelu88> what language uses files with .ch?
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3258[21:17:30] <simonlnu> at boot
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3259[21:17:33] <teraflops> OrbsTheorem: youre login from inside
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3261[21:17:38] <simonlnu> switzerland
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3263[21:17:52] <bizarrefish> simonlnu: But where exactly? What
systemd unit?
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3266[21:18:00] <kulelu88> oh it's a domain *facepalm*
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3267[21:18:03] <simonlnu> grep it, i don't recall
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3268[21:18:15] <OrbsTheorem> teraflops from inside?
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3269[21:18:20] <bizarrefish> been grepping for a while. Nothing
yet. I was wondering if it was hardcoded into systemd
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3272[21:18:36] <kulelu88> you never know with systemd ...
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3274[21:18:41] <OrbsTheorem> I think is more a problem with
caches
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3276[21:18:50] <teraflops> 1:15:45 OrbsTheore ⎸ I just logged in
a captiva portal. look at what ip address you have
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3277[21:19:05] <simonlnu> i think it's still in the sysv
stuff
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3279[21:19:37] * simonlnu is running sid, moment
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3280[21:19:49] <greycat> "U+23B8 LEFT VERTICAL BOX
LINE" ... c'mon, *really*? | wasn't good enough?
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3281[21:19:55] <OrbsTheorem> I just connected to an wifi network
behind a captiva portal, the router address is 10.101.0.1 my address
is 10.101.1.125/21
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3282[21:20:04] <CutMeOwnThroat> judd, versions
libpeas-1.0-python2loader
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3283[21:20:05] <judd> Package: libpeas-1.0-python2loader on amd64
-- sid: 1.18.0-3; stretch: 1.18.0-3
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3284[21:20:13] <OrbsTheorem> that's the router replying me
that ssh is closed
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3286[21:20:19] <CutMeOwnThroat> kulelu88, oh yeah, it's in
testing/unstable...
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3287[21:20:20] <rhizome> extended ascii box line doesn't
leave gaps :P
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3288[21:20:22] <OrbsTheorem> which (I hope) is normal
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3289[21:20:28] <teraflops> OrbsTheorem: and?
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3291[21:20:33] <CutMeOwnThroat> judd, checkbackport
libpeas-1.0-python2loader
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3292[21:20:34] <judd> Backporting package
libpeas-1.0-python2loader in sid→jessie/amd64: all
build-dependencies satisfied using jessie.
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3294[21:20:40] <croddy> well i mean even code page 437 had a
dedicated set of box drawing characters
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3295[21:20:41] <bizarrefish> simonlnu: Looks like it's
supposed to be done in mountkernfs, but that's masked in
systemd
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3296[21:20:41] <simonlnu> bizarrefish: still in sysv stuff even
in sid
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3297[21:20:51] <CutMeOwnThroat> kulelu88, and seems you can
backport it to stable without problems
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3298[21:21:03] <croddy> you only get one hyphen-minus, but you
get single and double-stroked boxes
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3300[21:21:32] <OrbsTheorem> teraflops: and ssh is resolving
epfl.ch to the router address instead of the real one
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3301[21:21:44] <OrbsTheorem> but ping does ping the real host
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3304[21:21:59] <teraflops> OrbsTheorem: it works fine from
outside, go talk with the sysadmins, we don't know about the
captive portal youre using
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3305[21:21:59] <teraflops> then it's filtered?
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3307[21:22:31] <teraflops> OrbsTheorem: some weird redirection?
who knows
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3308[21:22:46] <OrbsTheorem> it's possible...
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3309[21:22:53] <f-a_> I got a scanned pdf, with 2 A5 pages per
pdf page. Is there a way to 'break' them horizontally (so
to have 1 sheet for every pdf page)?
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3310[21:22:54] <OrbsTheorem> but why only ssh?
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3311[21:23:14] <teraflops> OrbsTheorem: I do vpn inside captive
portals, if it fails I do iodine
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3313[21:23:29] <OrbsTheorem> I'll try the vpn
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3314[21:23:31] <simonlnu> |||||| so much easier to type :)
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3315[21:23:35] <greycat> OrbsTheorem: Did you find NOTHING in
~/.ssh/config then? What did "15:14 OrbsTheorem> well,
there's an alias for epfl.ch" mean if not "Oh look I
found SOMETHING IN MY CONFIG FILE"?
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3316[21:23:36] <OrbsTheorem> don't know iodine
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3317[21:23:57] <teraflops> OrbsTheorem: again it's about the
captive portal
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3318[21:24:03] <OrbsTheorem> greycat: yes, my normal config, I
mean it works everywhere else
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3319[21:24:07] <bizarrefish> simonlnu: Weird. I'm on 8.
perhaps they did something specific when preparing the OS for this
board. Can't think why they would have messed with it, though
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3320[21:24:12] <greycat> You didn't fucking LOOK, did you.
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3321[21:24:14] <greycat> Jesus Christ.
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3322[21:24:21] <OrbsTheorem> yes I did
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3323[21:24:32] <simonlnu> bizarrefish: maybe
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3324[21:24:35] <teraflops> OrbsTheorem:
replaced-url
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3325[21:25:19] <missmbob> greycat: you should update curly.pl.txt
:P i'm on irssi as well
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3326[21:25:34] <teraflops> greycat: oh I missed that part, I
thought he was talking about dns
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3327[21:25:37] <greycat> missmbob: Think I just did, but
I'll have to wait for teraflops to do that again.
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3329[21:25:57] <OrbsTheorem> what? payload over dns queries? xD
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3332[21:26:19] <teraflops> greycat: do wat!?
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3333[21:26:30] <greycat> teraflops: paste something with a U+23B8
character in it.
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3335[21:26:36] <bizarrefish> simonlnu: Think I've got it.
/etc/init.d/mountkernfs reload is called from
/etc/init.d/checkroot.sh
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3336[21:26:40] <bizarrefish> Mystery solved.
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3337[21:26:42] <bizarrefish> Ew, though
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3339[21:27:01] <bizarrefish> Surely there's a better place
for that.
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3341[21:27:03] <simonlnu> old stuff, that works, but also needs
work ;)
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3342[21:27:19] <teraflops> → ↑ →↓ ಠ_ಠ
♥
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3343[21:27:19] <bizarrefish> Ah well, I can sleep easy now at
least.
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3344[21:27:22] <bizarrefish> :D
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3345[21:27:32] <bizarrefish> Back to making things work
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3346[21:27:33] <greycat> bizarrefish: are you sure that's
actually used and not just a remnant from when you were running
wheezy?
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3347[21:27:34] <teraflops> ah greycat ok
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3348[21:27:51] <bizarrefish> greycat: This is an OS image which
came with the board i'm using. Afaik it's debootstrapped
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3349[21:28:07] <teraflops> greycat: ⎸ ⎸
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3352[21:28:29] <simonlnu> | |
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3353[21:28:35] <bizarrefish> A load of stuff depends on checkroot
with sysv headers.
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3355[21:28:44] <greycat> bizarrefish: Those ARM things are
basically "based-on-Debian" distributions. Heavily
modified. Any resemblance to standard Debian is coincidence.
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3357[21:28:51] <bizarrefish> I'll assume one of those is
being pulled in with systemd
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3359[21:29:02] <teraflops> simonlnu: yours is not U+23B8 ;P
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3360[21:29:04] <bizarrefish> greycat: I'm seeing much more
convergence than I used to with such things.
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3361[21:29:11] <greycat> well, that's good news
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3363[21:29:13] <bizarrefish> But yeah, i know it's not the
same
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3365[21:30:10] <simonlnu> nope :)
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3369[21:30:29] * OrbsTheorem hates this cofee shop public wifi...
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3370[21:31:06] <teraflops> greycat: when you get ready we can try
the mathematical symbols
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3374[21:31:34] <simonlnu> #
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3375[21:31:50] <greycat> teraflops: I'm not programming for
every UTF-8 character. Just the ones that actually get used. Your
paste of a quote of someone from your IRC client with 23B8 in it was
a real use. Your paste of random gibberish just for the sake of
gibberish, I do not count.
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3376[21:32:07] <teraflops> ah yeah
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3377[21:32:16] <LordShadowWing> I have a USB K-Byte Fingerprint
reader. Does anybody know of a way to use biometric authentication
with Gnu/Linux?
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3382[21:32:50] <OrbsTheorem> LordShadowWing: I know you can
integrate it with PAM
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3383[21:32:53] <teraflops> I use ⎸ in weechat
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3385[21:33:08] <simonlnu> i just use the default weechat theme
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3386[21:33:10] <greycat> And my script is handling it now :)
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3387[21:33:44] <LordShadowWing> OrbsTheorem; I have little
experience with PA
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3390[21:33:51] <LordShadowWing> PAM*
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3392[21:34:08] <rhizome> LordShadowWing: looks like fprint is a
thing to look into
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3393[21:34:11] <teraflops> simonlnu: mine looks like
replaced-url
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3394[21:34:19] <missmbob> greycat: hrm. i dont see it. /me wipes
cache
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3395[21:34:30] <LordShadowWing> rhizome Thanks
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3397[21:34:31] <greycat> Oh, I didn't *upload* the new
script...
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3398[21:34:51] <greycat> there
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3399[21:35:07] <missmbob> greycat: thanks
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3400[21:35:20] <simonlnu> teraflops | simonlnu: mine looks like
replaced-url
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3401[21:35:25] <OrbsTheorem> LordShadowWing:
replaced-url
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3402[21:35:29] <simonlnu> me too ;)
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3405[21:35:42] <OrbsTheorem> "Don't kill me for quoting
archwiki, please"
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3406[21:35:47] <teraflops> simonlnu: ah hehe
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3407[21:36:02] <greycat> Archwiki is pretty good for Debian users
too.
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3408[21:36:13] <simonlnu> yep
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3409[21:36:13] <greycat> But you do have to be careful about
distro-specific changes.
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3410[21:36:18] <simonlnu> yep
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3413[21:36:49] <simonlnu> archwiki is purdy good, for the most
part.
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3415[21:37:50] <teraflops> yeah even more since systemd arrived
to debian too
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3417[21:38:04] <OrbsTheorem> I like archwiki cause is a good path
as guide, but I always distrust the commands and spawn a side pannel
with the manpage
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3418[21:38:30] <OrbsTheorem> btw, about systemd
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3419[21:38:39] <defanor> hello. i'd like to get sound on
eeepc and debian jessie to work, but not sure where to begin.
replaced-url
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3423[21:39:22] <OrbsTheorem> do you know how can I create a
system process that is "optional". aka is won't block
the system or wait for start/stop jobs related to it?
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3425[21:39:42] <greycat> Make a systemd unit file in
/etc/systemd/system/ and enable it.
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3427[21:40:19] <greycat> At the bottom of it, just have something
like [Install] (newline) WantedBy=multi-user.target
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3428[21:40:39] <teraflops> defanor: stay away from that wiki
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3429[21:40:56] <teraflops> defanor: latest update was in 2008
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3431[21:41:13] <teraflops> error 2011^
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3433[21:41:30] <OrbsTheorem> greycat: thanks
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3434[21:41:33] <OrbsTheorem> I'll test
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3436[21:41:55] <defanor> teraflops: ok, seems outdated indeed
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3439[21:42:10] <kulelu88> CutMeOwnThroat: how do I backport it to
14.04 trusty? (if ubuntu questions are allowed here)
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3442[21:42:26] <greycat> Ubuntu questions are off topic here.
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3445[21:43:04] <teraflops> heh from 2011-02-04 at 15:21:52
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3446[21:43:12] <defanor> i have snd_hda_intel module loaded, btw
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3448[21:43:23] <defanor> arch wiki says it should work with it
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3449[21:43:25] <teraflops> defanor: what DE/WM?
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3454[21:44:03] <teraflops> defanor: just use alsa, what's
the issue, detailed please, does not work is not a detailed issue
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3455[21:44:08] <teraflops> use pulse*
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3457[21:44:17] <defanor> teraflops: just i3. had gnome before,
violently removed everything containing "gnome" in its
name, but not sure if sound worked with it
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3458[21:44:23] <defanor> (never needed it before)
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3459[21:44:24] <teraflops> eh
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