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37 [00:21:28] <extor> I take it a "kernel panic not syncing
fatal exception in interrupt" inside of a virtual machine is
not really supported by debian but rather by vmware; or perhaps
it's a grey area?
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42 [00:25:52] <jhutchins> extor: What OS is running on the VM?
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44 [00:26:28] <extor> debian off course
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47 [00:27:43] <jhutchins> extor: The mere fact of a kernel panic
doesn't tell us anything, what was it doing when it crashed?
48 [00:28:07] <extor> jhutchins, was running the dante server
package
49 [00:28:33] <extor> I do believe connecting to one of the
socks IPs triggered the kernel panic
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54 [00:30:36] <PrincessZelda> Are there other media centers like
KODI in the the repositories?
55 [00:31:04] <bazhang> ,v mpd
56 [00:31:05] <judd> Package: mpd on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.16.7-2+b1; wheezy-backports: 0.17.6-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.19.1-1.1;
jessie-backports: 0.19.12-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.19.21-1; buster:
0.20.11-1; sid: 0.20.11-1+b1; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.19.9-dmo2;
stretch-multimedia: 1:0.19.21-dmo4; buster-multimedia:
1:0.20.12-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:0.20.12-dmo1
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148 [01:14:29] <paul--> hello
149 [01:14:52] <bazhang> hi
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154 [01:20:12] <Keitaro> hello guys on a usb where i install a
live linux, is it possible to copy paste some file from windows on
the usb key next to the live linux folder ?
155 [01:20:26] <Keitaro> or it is dangerous and we should do an
other partition for that ?
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164 [01:23:49] <Lady_Aleena> Is there something wrong with
Firefox-esr that makes it slow as dirt?
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166 [01:24:23] <Lady_Aleena> I have a 64-bit processor, but
Firefox can't keep up with me.
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170 [01:26:25] <extor> If I want a kernel panic to reboot my box
rather than freeze it shut, can I add somehing to the grub config or
to /proc somewhere?
171 [01:26:50] <bazhang> extor, want?
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173 [01:27:16] <extor> Yes I do want. Why else would I ask?
174 [01:27:34] <bazhang> why would you want that
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176 [01:27:53] <extor> So I dont have to manually reboot my VM
every panic
177 [01:28:08] <bazhang> oh, a vm
178 [01:28:43] <extor> On another note in centos you have
/etc/rc.local which has startup commands but that file is missing in
debian.
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211 [01:47:21] <fellipe> hi all. I am trying to start a official
debian image on debian 8.9 jessie host , but I am getting
"cgroup path for memory not found". How to solve this?
I've already tried to google it on docker forums, but no
success. At least, what this error means?
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301 [02:53:21] <johnjay> is there any better downloader than wget
for unstable internet?
302 [02:54:01] <somiaj> so you want something that will resume
download from http?
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304 [02:54:26] <johnjay> yes i tried wget and my internet is so
bad it froze
305 [02:54:30] <johnjay> i managed to resume with -c though
306 [02:54:48] <somiaj> curl says it supports file transfer
resume.
307 [02:54:53] <johnjay> I did unlimited retries with interval 60
seconds between
308 [02:55:03] <johnjay> i'm apt getting something called
aria2, not sure what it is
309 [02:55:14] <somiaj> curl is a wget alternative
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311 [02:55:24] <dTal> johnjay: for what it's worth you can
tell wget to keep trying
312 [02:55:36] <johnjay> dTal: that doesn't matter if
it's frozen
313 [02:56:12] <somiaj> curl -C -
replaced-url
314 [02:56:39] <dTal> johnjay: ah, supposing you set a timeout
315 [02:56:42] <johnjay> i told it --tries 0 --wait 60
316 [02:57:10] <johnjay> yeah it was just completely
non-responsive. dunno if that's a bug or a problem with my
system or what
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318 [02:57:53] <dTal> something like --retry-connrefused
--timeout=5
319 [02:58:12] <dTal> I don't know if that would work
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322 [02:59:02] <johnjay> oh i didn't see that option dTal
323 [02:59:37] <johnjay> but if that was the problem
wouldn't wget stop or something?
324 [02:59:46] <johnjay> instead of just saying download rate is
x kb/s frozen?
325 [02:59:59] <johnjay> i'm not even sure it was a crash or
not
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335 [03:04:03] <zRecursive> After `apt-get install emacs25-nox`,
emacs reported: Warning (bytecomp): 'make-coding-system'
is an obsolete function (as of 23.1); use
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510 [05:11:48] <nihilstprincess> hi
511 [05:12:02] <nihilstprincess> I have kali running on an older
mac
512 [05:12:17] <dvs> !kali
513 [05:12:17] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
514 [05:12:19] <nihilstprincess> and for some reason its running
a lot slower than my old mac os, leopard
515 [05:12:34] <nihilstprincess> ok, will do
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537 [05:20:26] <shawn1> what is the best way to get firefox 57 on
debian jessie
538 [05:20:32] <shawn1> !mozilla.debian.net
539 [05:20:32] <dpkg> For stable releases, newer versions of
Firefox, Icedove and Iceape can be found at
replaced-url
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544 [05:23:52] <shawn1> I think the best wat is to manually
install it in /opt and make a .desktop for it
545 [05:25:24] <shawn1> apt pinning to install it from sid and
keep sid in my source.list and hopefully it wont implode one day?
546 [05:26:34] <somiaj> debian does not have rust in it, so newer
versions of firefox cannot be compiled in debian. This may dely
newer versions for some time.
547 [05:26:48] <somiaj> If you don't want to use the esr
release, download the precompiled binary from mozilla and run it in
$HOME or /opt
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550 [05:28:20] <shawn1> somiaj: ok thanks
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626 [06:17:53] <zRecursive> Are there any precompiled binary
emacs which doesnot use Gtk ?
627 [06:19:21] <somiaj> what do you mean? Do you not want the gtk
dependence, because emacs can be used in a console just fine.
628 [06:20:50] <somiaj> there is emacs-nox which contains no X
depndence.
629 [06:20:57] <zRecursive> somiaj: I want emacs without Gtk
dependence
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631 [06:21:53] <zRecursive> running in X
632 [06:21:54] <somiaj> there is also emacs-lucid if you want a
different widget set than gtk and still use xemacs
633 [06:22:04] <somiaj> well run it in a termainal, that works
fine (:
634 [06:22:31] <zRecursive> You mean emacs25-nox ?
635 [06:22:45] <somiaj> well emacs-nox is a metapackage that will
point to the current version.
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638 [06:22:56] <somiaj> here on stretch it would be emacs24-nox
639 [06:23:10] <somiaj> but having emacs-nox might be nice for
upgrades
640 [06:23:19] <zRecursive> oh, i just install emacs25-nox
641 [06:23:34] <somiaj> emacs-nox would have just installed that,
so either works
642 [06:23:50] <somiaj> but if you want a graphical widiget set,
the lucid one might be yoru liking, or just use emacs inside your
terminal.
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644 [06:23:52] <zRecursive> ok,i see
645 [06:24:14] <somiaj> but those are the only options I see in
stretch, nox (no-X), gtk, or lucid widget sets
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647 [06:24:56] <zRecursive> somiaj: can i install both emacs-nox
and emacs-lucid together?
648 [06:25:29] <somiaj> no
649 [06:25:35] <zRecursive> ok, thx
650 [06:25:46] <somiaj> but if you have emacs-lucid you can run
both xemacs with the lucid widiget set and emacs in a termail
651 [06:26:03] <somiaj> so having emacs-lucid is kinda like
having both
652 [06:26:07] <zRecursive> oh, lucid can run in terminal ?
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654 [06:26:52] <somiaj> well it would be just like emacs-nox. But
emacs-nox doens't give you the option to run xemacs (I belive
that is what it is called -- I don't use emacs myself)
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656 [06:27:26] <somiaj> no wrong there, xemacs is another widge
set for emacs, but doesn't appear to have been updated since
emacs21
657 [06:27:55] <zRecursive> i will try emacs-lucid
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660 [06:28:37] <somiaj> and it appears that emacs25 is in
stretch, didn't realize both were there.
661 [06:29:09] <zRecursive> `apt-cache search emacs` will find it
662 [06:29:09] <somiaj> zRecursive: looks like the package
provides two binaries, emacs and emacs-lucid. I assume the first is
the standard console version and the other will use the lucid widget
set in x
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698 [06:55:23] <Neomex> apt-get asks me for media/cdrom/
699 [06:55:27] <Neomex> can i change it to usb?
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703 [07:00:05] <awal1> Neomex, you don't have access to
internet?
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705 [07:00:18] <Neomex> nop
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713 [07:06:01] <Neomex> how do i figure out which firmware i need
for external wifi adapter?
714 [07:06:30] <awal1> Neomex, check
replaced-url
715 [07:06:31] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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717 [07:07:03] <awal1> Neomex, which DE?
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719 [07:08:00] <Neomex> 9.2.1 x64
720 [07:08:35] <awal1> Neomex, that is release nº; I was
refering if gnome, kde.... but ok, try removing cd line in
sources.list
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722 [07:08:42] <awal1> and update
723 [07:08:46] <awal1> see what happens
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725 [07:08:56] <Neomex> gnome
726 [07:08:57] <awal1> update having usb inserted
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729 [07:09:15] <awal1> remove cd line or just comment it
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740 [07:13:22] * ilmostro Trying to install debian-testing as Libvirt
Guest VM, using graphical installation --> Automatic paritioning
--> LVM --> "/home" on separate partition. The GUI
is stuck for 30min+ on "Guided Partitioning: Computing the new
partitions...".
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743 [07:14:05] <ilmostro> I'm not sure if this is a known
issue or if it's expected to take an inordinate amount of time
to "compute" partitioning scheme?
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745 [07:14:48] <Neomex> idk but it took me 10+ hours to wipe old
data
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748 [07:15:35] <ilmostro> Neomex: that's quite a different
scenario, especially if/when taking additional variables into
account; e.g. method of "wiping" data
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753 [07:16:13] <awal1> ilmostro, testing installer is in beta
754 [07:16:18] <awal1> !testing installer
755 [07:16:18] <dpkg> Repeat after me: the testing installer is
for testing the <installer>, not for installing
<testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using
the <stable> installer and ask me about
<stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against
the debian-installer pseudopackage.
replaced-url
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758 [07:18:27] <ilmostro> In case I don't get to it, as
I'm testing debian within a Guest VM, might be worth noting
this bug if it hasn't been already filed. Also, might be a bit
misleading having a DVD image 3.7G in size just to be able to test
the installer :-/
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777 [07:32:50] <Neomex> awal1, mount point /media/usb0 does not
exist
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780 [07:33:44] <awal1> Neomex, check if gnome software center
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782 [07:34:57] <awal1> I never used usb for install, no clue; and
several years now without reinstalling
783 [07:35:11] <awal1> I almost forgot how the install process is
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788 [07:36:53] <zRecursive> Does anybody know how a X app,
forwarded from remote Debian, use system clipboard on windows ?
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805 [07:44:29] <Neomex> ok so i got the missing wifi firmware,
now it finds networks, starts connecting and then just stops
806 [07:44:40] <Neomex> can i do that from terminal to get more
info?
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849 [08:18:33] <Neomex> trying to config wpa_supplicant, says
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984 [09:37:00] <pagios> hello, i have my gnome notification
freezing i cant close it and dont want to restart, how can i
refresh?
replaced-url
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988 [09:38:38] <well_laid_lawn> pagios: you can use xkill from a
terminal and see if that ends it
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992 [09:39:05] <pagios> well_laid_lawn, what is the name of the
notification
993 [09:39:55] <well_laid_lawn> pagios: xkill will change the
cursor - then you click the app you want dead
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1000 [09:41:41] <pagios> well_laid_lawn, thanks man it works
1001 [09:41:45] <pagios> nice command xkill !
1002 [09:41:47] <pagios> :)
1003 [09:42:03] <aaap> may i know anyone compare debian to fedora
before?
1004 [09:42:05] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
1005 [09:42:11] <pagios> well_laid_lawn, i have another issue,
when running virtualbox vm in fullscreen mode the host machine
freezes
1006 [09:42:16] <pagios> i cant click for example
1007 [09:42:24] <pagios> if i put the vm in non full mode it works
fine
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1009 [09:43:05] <well_laid_lawn> pagios: see if someone in #vbox
knows about that
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1027 [09:55:13] <benpro> bientôt je vais écrire en
/amsg tiens
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1061 [10:07:44] <fsiWeb3d96> hello
1062 [10:08:04] <fsiWeb3d96> anyone here?
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1065 [10:08:39] <bazhang> yes
1066 [10:08:45] <fsiWeb3d96> have a question
1067 [10:08:54] <bazhang> ask away
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1069 [10:09:45] <fsiWeb3d96> i wanna download debian 9.2.1 version
to put it on a usb stick and run it live for now, trying to find a
link to download,
replaced-url
1070 [10:10:18] <fsiWeb3d96> and do i have to download other files
listed as well?
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1072 [10:11:45] <fsiWeb3d96> 2nd question, how fatal is drdy err?
1073 [10:11:53] <fsiWeb3d96> is there any chance i save my hdd?
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1075 [10:12:44] <nix64bit> I am trying a new install and keep
getting disabled by bios error even though I have disables secure
boot in bios
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1077 [10:12:56] <n4dir> The link you provided doesn't look as
if it would contain debian-live at all (might well be it's too
early in the morning and i am confused). Try this:
replaced-url
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1079 [10:13:20] <n4dir> fsiWeb3d96: ^^
1080 [10:13:53] <fsiWeb3d96> but here is 9.2.0. version :/
1081 [10:14:05] <nix64bit> looks like debian is being blocked
without an option to disable
1082 [10:14:10] <fsiWeb3d96> i'd like a stable one coz seems
im gonna have to install it on an external hdd as well
1083 [10:14:29] <nix64bit> anyone know of a way round this?
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1085 [10:15:32] <n4dir> fsiWeb3d96: if you want to install,
download the installation iso, if you want live, download the live
iso. If you want to do both, you will still have to download both
1086 [10:15:41] <fsiWeb3d96> really?
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1088 [10:15:50] <fsiWeb3d96> it doesnt work anymore to install it
over live version?
1089 [10:16:12] <n4dir> the live installer is known to have got
several problems. It is not recommended
1090 [10:17:04] <fsiWeb3d96> oh ok, didnt know that. by me worked
always fine ^^
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1092 [10:17:23] <fsiWeb3d96> anybody knows something about my hdd
error? drdy err?
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1174 [10:45:31] <jomofcw> Hello !
1175 [10:45:37] <jomofcw> I'm back with the same problem :/.
1176 [10:46:08] <jomofcw> Looking at this GIST :
replaced-url
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1209 [11:03:44] <dff> anyone here familiar with nethogs? I'm
observing some weird behavior there, a process owned by root has an
open connection to an outside IP that i cant find in netstat
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1211 [11:04:09] <dff> also, where can i verify the gpg key for
debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org
1212 [11:04:32] <dff> and retrieve for that matter
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1223 [11:10:38] <pagios> hello, i have a network printer,
e-STUDIO2000AC when i print to it it always prints in landscape
mode, how can i fix this? problem is only on linux
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1225 [11:12:31] <fiet> pagios: Go to printers, settings and set
default orientation.
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1229 [11:13:48] <pagios> fiet, i did it doesnt work
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1232 [11:16:02] <fiet> pagios: What happens when you use lpr to
print? And specify orientation on cli?
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1245 [11:20:16] <pagios> fiet, how can i use lpr
1246 [11:20:18] <pagios> commandline
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1272 [11:29:35] <darxmurf> how should I encode my text when I
generate a txt file containing MYSQL inserts with accents like
éàö ?
1273 [11:29:56] <xand> depends on the collation of the database
1274 [11:30:04] <darxmurf> Then when I launch my SELECT from my
shell client, I can list my entries well formated but PHP mess up
the situation
1275 [11:30:20] <darxmurf> and in the other side, I have wrongly
displayed entries in the shell but ok with php
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1279 [11:31:11] <darxmurf> it's an endless story, I had this
issue 10 years ago ^^
1280 [11:31:28] <darxmurf> but it was not from a shell
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1282 [11:31:49] <jelly> darxmurf: it's important that your
mysql client settings match the encoding of insert lines, and that
DDL (table definitions) can actually contain those characters
1283 [11:32:50] <darxmurf> everything is UTF8
1284 [11:32:59] <darxmurf> I tried to force also
--default_character_set utf8 in my request
1285 [11:33:11] <darxmurf> hmm lunch time, I'll check that
after
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1294 [11:36:56] <jomofcw> Looking at this GIST (all details in) :
replaced-url
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1299 [11:38:06] <aaap> #j #fedora
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1314 [11:43:24] <JustASlacker> its better to use [[
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1317 [11:44:43] <JustASlacker> jomofcw: maybe a PATH issue?
1318 [11:45:29] <JustASlacker> which mailx
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1322 [11:46:02] <JustASlacker> try setting full path for mailx
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1335 [11:53:04] <fiet> pagios: lpr and man lpr
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1339 [11:55:37] <fiet> pagios: fortune | lpr -o portrait -o
fit-to-page
1340 [11:56:03] <jomofcw> JustASlacker hello ! Can it be a path
issue whereas I can exec the command manualy ?
1341 [11:56:07] <fiet> pagios:
replaced-url
1342 [11:56:24] <JustASlacker> jomofcw: yes
1343 [11:56:34] <JustASlacker> jomofcw: its not executed by you,
no?
1344 [11:56:45] <JustASlacker> and PATH is defined per user
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1346 [11:56:53] <pagios> fiet, its a network printer and it has an
access code
1347 [11:57:08] <JustASlacker> same problem happens in cron
1348 [11:57:22] <pagios> fiet, the printer is configured in the
system settings though with the code
1349 [11:57:24] <pagios> but not command line
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1351 [11:57:49] <JustASlacker>
replaced-url
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1353 [11:58:08] <no_gravity> Hi guys! What is "Linux
Firmware"? I see it's updated via the update manager but I
have no idea what it is.
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1355 [11:59:08] <azarus> It's the firmware for your hardware,
no_gravity
1356 [11:59:16] <pagios> fiet, lpr: Error - no default destination
available.
1357 [11:59:19] <fiet> pagios: Not sure how that works, but if you
can poass it as an option you can add it with -o
1358 [11:59:29] <no_gravity> azarus: I would have thought the
hardware is talked to via the drivers?
1359 [11:59:47] <azarus> no_gravity:
replaced-url
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1361 [12:00:00] <azarus> drivers != firmware
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1363 [12:00:15] <no_gravity> azarus: I read that. But then I was
thinking "What's the difference to the drivers?" so I
came here to IRC.
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1365 [12:00:29] <azarus> drivers are higher level than firmware
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1367 [12:01:13] <azarus> My hardware doesn't need the
firmware package, but I don't know about your hardware,
no_gravity
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1369 [12:01:34] <azarus> and if i recall correctly you refuse
pasting anything on the web so I can't tell you if you need it
or not
1370 [12:01:57] <no_gravity> Strange. I would have thought if some
piece of hardware needs software then that software is called a
driver.
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1372 [12:02:14] <azarus> Some hardware needs both
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1374 [12:02:31] <azarus> Namely some wifi/bluetooth/whatever
hardware
1375 [12:03:11] <no_gravity> I don't get what the difference
between firmware and drivers is.
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1377 [12:03:18] <azarus> drivers are higher level than firmware
1378 [12:03:38] <no_gravity> What does that mean?
1379 [12:03:39] <azarus> firmware = low level device control
1380 [12:03:48] <azarus> drivers = operating system device control
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1384 [12:05:27] <shtrb> Is there any debian way to verify a PDF
signature (debian stable) ?
1385 [12:05:32] <azarus> no_gravity: this explains it pretty well:
replaced-url
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1388 [12:06:29] <no_gravity> azarus: I read that. It says that
firmware is what runs on the device. I wonder if that holds true for
the "linux firmware" that is updated by the update
manager.
1389 [12:06:39] <azarus> it does
1390 [12:06:45] <azarus> it updates the firmware files
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1392 [12:07:25] <no_gravity> They will be flashed to some hardware
devices?
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1394 [12:07:34] <azarus> ... I see you don't really
understand.
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1396 [12:07:50] <azarus> Read this paragraph:
replaced-url
1397 [12:08:12] <azarus> There is no flashing going on
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1399 [12:08:45] <pagios> fiet, it prints with correct orientation
now but the text is small, margins are big
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1402 [12:09:16] <no_gravity> azarus: That paragraph also states
that it is software that runs on a device. I wonder what software
that it. I mean which devices get their software sent over from
Linux.
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1406 [12:09:53] <azarus> no_gravity: no devices get their software
"sent" over from linux
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1411 [12:10:08] <azarus> The operating system just loads firmware
files.
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1419 [12:10:32] <no_gravity> azarus: It's stated in the
paragraph you just linked to.
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1421 [12:10:54] <no_gravity> "The kernel reads the firmware
data from the special file it created and hands the data to the
driver"
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1424 [12:11:19] <azarus> The "device" is a virtual
device created in kernel space
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1426 [12:11:27] <azarus> Like /dev/mouse
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1431 [12:11:45] <azarus> Your real physical devices are not
affected by this firmware update
1432 [12:11:52] <azarus> There is no flashing going on
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1441 [12:13:11] <fiet> pagios: Good, so it's just a setting.
With lpr you can set everything with -o, check the url I gave
earlier for details. Make sure it corresponds with the settings you
have in your /etc/cups/printers.conf
1442 [12:13:17] <ForceRecon> hello, when I try to right click on
menu in debian stretch and configure I get an error
1443 [12:13:22] <ForceRecon> is this known?
1444 [12:13:39] <ForceRecon> execution of xlet-settings
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1451 [12:15:51] <ForceRecon> brb.. gonna reboot.. something weird
happened here
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1481 [12:26:34] <ForceRecon> wow.. that was almost a disaster
1482 [12:27:20] <ForceRecon> if you get that error after an update
you need to get to command line then sudo apt-get install
cinnamon-screensaver, if it says it is already the latest then you
need to sudo apt-get install cinnamon
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1484 [12:27:33] <ForceRecon> then get back to gui screen and you
should be able to log back in
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1497 [12:34:04] <pagios> fiet, doesnt owrk
1498 [12:34:05] <petn-randall> ForceRecon: Sounds like you removed
a few packages after installing cinnamon, nothing surprising here.
1499 [12:34:42] <ForceRecon> I was reading online that this was
caused by a recent update to the system..
1500 [12:34:57] <ForceRecon> is there no truth to that?
1501 [12:35:17] <petn-randall> ForceRecon: In Debian stable?
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1507 [12:36:15] <ForceRecon> yes
1508 [12:37:01] <petn-randall> ForceRecon: I doubt that any
significant changes there recently. Where did you read this?
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1512 [12:37:22] <ForceRecon> actually after checking it was an old
article..
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1515 [12:37:30] <ForceRecon> 2015.. heh..
1516 [12:37:36] <ForceRecon> thanks google
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1519 [12:38:11] <ForceRecon> but it solved my problem.. I did not
install anything new or remove anything.. I just went to edit my
menu and got that error then reboot and could not log in at all..
1520 [12:38:14] <ForceRecon> no desktop
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1522 [12:38:27] <ForceRecon> i really did not do anything new or
install or remove anything today
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1534 [12:45:24] <fiet> pagios: It has to. If you can make it print
correctly using lpr, it's obviously a wrong setting. Check the
cups webinterface, mnage printers, set default options. Make sure
they're correct.
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1552 [12:53:18] <pagios> fiet,
replaced-url
1553 [12:53:22] <pagios> i am not able to change b5
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1555 [12:53:28] <pagios> everytime i change it it changes back to
b5
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1568 [12:58:36] <fiet> pagios: Possibly that's managef by the
printer itself. afaik when you change anything it is sent to the
printer. After that the printer is queried again to retrieve the
settings. Maybe the same with your orientation issue, Check the
printer itself as well.
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1573 [13:00:50] <jomofcw> OK JustASlacker ! I check it, ty.
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1611 [13:13:39] <ongy> I'm trying to play around with a
debian buster lxc guest (on stretch host) and when I use the
download template I get an image that doesn't start up (or even
install) dbus. When I try to `apt install dbus` things fail because
dpkg can't connect to systemd without dbus, so I can't
properly install dbus :/
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1620 [13:17:58] <introom> is there any python binding available
for =libnl= in debian?
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1639 [13:29:28] <themill> introom: pyroute2 is packaged
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1647 [13:35:36] <dff> anyone here have experience with darkstat?
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1654 [13:36:51] <fiet> I use it, yes.
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1666 [13:39:43] <Tarrasquero> ongy: apt-get install -f?
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1675 [13:40:41] <dff> fiet: does it need to run with root
privileges?
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1677 [13:41:01] <ongy> no such luck, dpkg fails because it
can't communicate with system (due to missing dbus I would
asume) which makes this a bit annoying
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1679 [13:41:27] <fiet> dff: No, it doesn't. It just needs
access to your interfaces.
1680 [13:41:30] <ongy> I tried to start dbus manually to get the
setup running, but that just changes the error to something about
lanuch-helper, which doesn't help me either
1681 [13:41:32] <Tarrasquero> dff: it's a drawer
1682 [13:42:04] <dff> how do i give it access to the interface in
question?
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1684 [13:42:32] <Iridos> why does dpkg need to communicate via
dbus anyway
1685 [13:43:00] <ongy> I would asume systemdctl enable/systemctl
start
1686 [13:43:11] <Tarrasquero> ongy: systemd start dbus
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1688 [13:43:23] <Iridos> that's a command…
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1690 [13:44:01] <ongy> Tarrasquero: do you mean systemctl?
1691 [13:44:20] <dff> also, unrelated by my questions about
darkstat, how do i verify the gpg key for
debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org
1692 [13:44:27] <fiet> dff: I think you can use setcap to set the
proper permissions on darkstat.
1693 [13:44:31] <dff> i cant find anything about it on debian.org
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1696 [13:45:22] <dff> fiet: do you advise to run darkstat on its
own user
1697 [13:45:22] <Iridos> ongy, is that apt{,get,cache,itude} or
dpkg?
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1699 [13:45:30] <dff> and just set permission to access the
interface
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1701 [13:45:46] <Iridos> I don't see a dependency in
direction of dbus anywhere (well, that's in stretch)
1702 [13:45:51] <ongy> Iridos: the error comes from dpkg
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1704 [13:45:59] <fiet> dff: Never hurts to do that, or run it as
nobody
1705 [13:46:23] <dff> doesnt matter which?
1706 [13:46:24] <Iridos> I don't see anything about dbus in
aptitude changelog dpkg
1707 [13:46:27] <ongy> I call apt, but the error comes from dpkg
complaining about post-install script
1708 [13:46:28] <Tarrasquero> ongy:
replaced-url
1709 [13:46:38] <themill> ongy: postinst ≠ dpkg btw
1710 [13:46:40] <fiet> dff: I use it on my NAS mostly and darkstat
is not reachable from the internet
1711 [13:46:45] <Iridos> ah
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1713 [13:46:48] <dff> but then id have to give the grp nobody
access the nic right?
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1715 [13:47:01] <Iridos> that makes more sense… but then
it's only specific packages
1716 [13:47:01] <ongy> themill: then why does the log line start
with a bold "dpkg:"?
1717 [13:47:09] <Iridos> because dpkg runs postinst
1718 [13:47:12] <fiet> No, with setcap you can gove darkstat
itself (the binary) poermissions.
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1720 [13:47:32] <fiet> dff: Google for tcpdump as non-root, and
you'll see the same issues.
1721 [13:47:36] <dff> fiet: im going to set darkstat to only be
accesible on my LAN too, but never hurts to go the extra mile
1722 [13:47:38] <ongy> Tarrasquero: yes? that's a config file
documentation. I'm not quite sure what you are trying to tell
me
1723 [13:47:47] <dff> thanks for the tip fiet
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1725 [13:47:53] <themill> ongy: any chance we can see the full
output in a pastebin?
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1727 [13:47:58] <ongy> I can try
1728 [13:48:41] <ws2k3> Can i enable sockets in php when installed
from the repository?
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1732 [13:49:10] <fiet> dff: I use VPN for most of that stuff, so I
don't need to open it up to the world. I think you'll get
what you want with setcap. Good luck.
1733 [13:49:15] <ongy> what's the easiest one I can paste to?
ddg isn't helping me -.-
1734 [13:49:24] <Tarrasquero> ongy: It depends on what you use
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1736 [13:49:30] <petn-randall> ws2k3: You need to be more specific
about what you mean if you want to get a meaningful answer.
1737 [13:49:34] <themill> ongy: what's difficult about a
pastebin?
1738 [13:49:42] <Iridos> yeah… seeing real errors instead
of speculation about/interpretation of them would be good
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1741 [13:50:22] <ws2k3> petn-randall sockets support. so that i am
able to open a tcp/udp socket. iirc php from the repository doesnt
have that
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1746 [13:50:36] <ongy>
replaced-url
1747 [13:50:54] <ongy> themill: getting the text out of tmux
1748 [13:51:02] <dff> thanks again fiet, have a nice day!
1749 [13:51:18] <petn-randall> ws2k3: I haven't seen such a
limit yet.
1750 [13:51:37] <petn-randall> ws2k3: Can you show us details?
Like what you're trying to run, what errors you get, etc?
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1752 [13:51:56] <Tarrasquero> ongy: dpkg --configure -a
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1754 [13:52:09] <ongy> same errors
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1757 [13:53:06] <themill> ongy: are you sharing /var/run into this
container or environment variables?
1758 [13:53:15] <themill> (or /run)
1759 [13:53:49] <ongy> not on purpose. It's a fresh
lxc-create -t download. I attach and run su -l to get the
environment up
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1762 [13:54:40] <ongy> definitly different /run (and /var/run
symlinks to /run)
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1764 [13:55:34] <themill> the postinst only tries to talk to dbus
if /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket exists and that should only be
the case ifits running
1765 [13:55:50] <ongy> that doesn't exist
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1768 [13:57:11] <ws2k3> petn-randall i think i already found it.
it seems to be working just fine
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1772 [13:59:33] <Tarrasquero> ongy: exist dbus run level 5
1773 [13:59:35] <tsukuyomi> hi, since I upgraded from debian
stable to testing I'm having some issues with chromium. The
upper part, where the seems to flicker sometime. Do you guys know if
it's a common problem or how I could fix it?
1774 [14:00:01] <Tarrasquero> ?
1775 [14:00:11] <ongy> Tarrasquero: I have no idea what that is or
how I would check
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1778 [14:01:32] <Tarrasquero> :$
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1781 [14:02:34] <Tarrasquero>
replaced-url
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1785 [14:03:53] <ongy> I don't speak that language. But if
you are asking whether the /etc/rc5.d/ contains a dbus symlink, it
does
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1787 [14:04:28] <Tarrasquero> ongy: /etc/rc5.d/ multiusers
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1790 [14:05:12] <Tarrasquero> ongy: ok
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1805 [14:10:18] <Tarrasquero> ongy: # export RUNLEVEL=1
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1807 [14:10:42] <Tarrasquero> # ap-get install dbus
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1809 [14:11:52] <ongy> yea, that doesn't change anything, but
I just got another idea. looks like I need to dig into systemd a
little and less into apt/dpkg
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1811 [14:12:32] <Tarrasquero> ongy: :°)
1812 [14:13:18] * Tarrasquero use systemd
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1817 [14:16:28] <ongy> ok, so the fix: `lxc.init.cmd = /sbin/init
systemd.legacy_systemd_cgroup_controller` added in the lxc config
=.= I've seen this before in fedora and just remembered....
systemd wants to use the newer cgroup structure and that fails
because the host uses the older controller. Which of course blocks
startup so things like dbus never get started in the container
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1846 [14:30:58] <archiebald> dumb question: how can i prevent a
book collection management software (calibre) to come to the
foreground everytime it makes a small job like converting an ebook,
or else, it just pops as active window, and I wish it stayed in the
background? debian 9
1847 [14:33:03] <petn-randall> archiebald: I'd first check in
the settings if you can find such an option. If that fails, many
window managers have a setting to focus an application if it opens a
new window. If you disable that, it should go away.
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1880 [14:58:37] <Iridos> archiebald, why does it start jobs
non-interactively?
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1928 [15:22:18] <archiebald> Iridos: oh it does start the job
because I ask it, but while on the converting job and uploading to
device job, every step of the way, it sends some sort of
"notification" (start job, jog is ongoing, job complete,
... ) and that brings the software on the foreground
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4281 [16:04:11] <r3> I've cloned a system, and now have its
filesystem mounted elsewhere in order to make changes to it so that
it is unique (hostname, ip address, etc.). I would also like to
regenerate ssh keys so that when I bring the system up on its own I
may ssh into it without issue. Since this is a mounted filesystem, I
cannot do "dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server", but I might
be able to do the commands on
4282 [16:04:11] <r3> this page: [
replaced-url
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4290 [16:06:32] <donofrio> how do I identity to freenode arrgh
4291 [16:06:44] <jusss> I can't too
4292 [16:06:52] <jusss> freenode is split?
4293 [16:06:54] <donofrio> yah freenode broken ;(
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4295 [16:07:03] <donofrio> at least it's not just me
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4297 [16:07:21] <petn-randall> r3: libguestfs-tools has a tool
called virt-sysprep that does all these things (and more) for you.
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4300 [16:07:46] <jusss> I can't join #archlinux now
4301 [16:07:51] <petn-randall> donofrio, jusss, #freenode might be
a better place ot ask.
4302 [16:07:52] <jusss> so I came here, aha
4303 [16:07:53] <donofrio> yepper
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4305 [16:07:58] <donofrio> tnx will do
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4307 [16:08:24] <petn-randall> There's not much we can do
from here, and it's a bit offtopic for #debian.
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4311 [16:09:39] <jusss> what terminal you guys use?
4312 [16:09:49] <jusss> xterm is a little weird and old
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4314 [16:09:55] <donofrio> petn-randall, I am in freenode-overflow
and no-one is talking there
4315 [16:09:57] <donofrio> :(
4316 [16:10:11] <jusss> and I use it for a long time, I'd
like to try new
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4318 [16:10:14] <jusss> new one
4319 [16:10:16] <petn-randall> jusss: Most DEs come with their own
terminal, like xfce4-termina, gnome-terminal, etc.
4320 [16:10:21] <nkuttler> jusss: rxvt
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4322 [16:11:00] <donofrio> jusss, I use hexchat like I have for
past years
4323 [16:11:00] <jusss> petn-randall: I'd like to try some
termianls they're isolate with DE
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4341 [16:18:00] <r3> petn-randall: thanks, I will look into that
in the future, but as there are only like four things or so to
change (I think for my application) I just wanted to see if using
'ssh-keygen' in that way was OK to do
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4351 [16:19:19] <donofrio> jusss, its all better now
4352 [16:19:35] <donofrio> sorry all for OT talk.
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4355 [16:20:03] <donofrio> jusss, or not...still cannot join
#ubuntu
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4357 [16:20:15] <donofrio> I'll too seek freenode channel
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4393 [16:22:33] <jelly> konsole and rxvt-unicode here, regardless
of DE (konsole even on xfce)
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4406 [16:23:53] <petn-randall> r3: Well, you can chroot into the
mounted partition and do it by hand. But you'll surely miss
other things that the application forgot about.
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4422 [16:28:06] <porton> Will Microsoft's .NET Core be
included into Debian? It seems it is of a free license. Or is it
nevertheless considered nonfree?
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4426 [16:28:46] <jelly> porton: which license is it? Did anyone
file a RFP yet?
4427 [16:28:49] <jelly> !rfp
4428 [16:28:49] <dpkg> Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask
for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See
replaced-url
4429 [16:28:55] <r3> I've scripted the changes to the
hostname, ipaddress, and a couple of config files - it is a pretty
basic system and I was trying to resolve the issue of not being able
to ssh into the cloned system, and this approach seems to work, but
wanted to be sure I was going about it in the correct fashion - that
it was working not as a fluke of what I did, as I am far from an ssh
expert. :)
4430 [16:29:11] <porton> .NET Core platform projects typically use
either the MIT or Apache 2 licenses for code. Some projects license
documentation and other forms of content under Creative Commons
Attribution 4.0.
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4432 [16:30:33] <r3> jelly: would it be ok if I re-asked a
question I had posted while the net-split was going on? (some folks
might see a duplicate line from me and just wanted to be sure I
wouldn't annoy folks)
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4435 [16:31:19] <porton>
replaced-url
4436 [16:31:21] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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4487 [16:45:31] <rom16384> I had made an optimization that was
lost on reboot, but can't remember which one. Now http
connections to random servers are slower. I'm running a caching
bind DNS server, and everything else seems OK. Any idea what could
be missing?
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4501 [16:49:57] <tw> Is it possible to whitelist (from the client)
what an apt repository or gpg key is allowed to publish?
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4506 [16:51:17] <tw> Nevermind, that doesn't make sense
because a package can overwrite other things almost arbitrarily.
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4524 [17:00:49] <jelly> r3: sure, go ahead
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4539 [17:05:30] <Time-Warp> anyone else have debian put iface eth0
inet dhcp into /etc/network/interface
4540 [17:05:58] <Time-Warp> spawns dhclient twice
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4546 [17:07:24] <Time-Warp> puts another file in /var/lib/dhcp
mostly.
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4554 [17:11:30] <jelly> Time-Warp: is there also a NetworkManager
running?
4555 [17:12:13] <Time-Warp> jelly: wicd :D
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4569 [17:17:06] <syntaxx> I setup my bond. Now both of my cable
connected to a single router. Both nics are gigabit but one of them
shows only 100mbps and the other one is 1000mbps. ethtool also shows
the same. Any idea why? Thanks
4570 [17:17:55] <ChrisH> syntaxx: check the Router side. Port
forced to 100MBPS only? Bad cable?
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4574 [17:19:09] <r3> I thought that the router/switch must also
support bonding?
4575 [17:19:42] <syntaxx> ChrisH, I am just using a D Link DIR
890L. I will try to replace the cable too
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4579 [17:22:01] <jomofcw> JustASlacker i'm back ! i'm
looking for adding the context to my shell script... but I
don't know how to do it easily :/...
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4582 [17:23:24] <ChrisH> syntaxx: Does it male sense to bond
towards such a box? Switch the cable and see if the 100MPBS connect
moves with the cable.
4583 [17:23:40] <Neomex> running dpkg tells me deconfiguration is
not possibile
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4585 [17:23:47] <Neomex> how should i update installed package?
4586 [17:23:52] <petn-randall> !bat
4587 [17:23:52] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
4588 [17:23:54] <petn-randall> Neomex: ^^^
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4591 [17:25:27] <syntaxx> ChrisH, will try thank you
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4593 [17:27:34] <Neomex> i would but i dont have net on that pc
4594 [17:27:44] <Neomex> trying to fix the wifi still
4595 [17:28:20] <Iridos> dpkg, dmesg
4596 [17:28:20] <dpkg> dmesg is used to examine or control the
kernel ring buffer. /var/log/dmesg gives you the whole thing from
boot time, the `dmesg' command shows you current ring buffer
contents.
4597 [17:29:11] <Iridos> mmh. it doesn't for a normal user
anymore… since the stretch kernel only root (or possibly
someone with some capability or other) can do it…
4598 [17:29:20] <Neomex> atm it disconnects after a minute or two
4599 [17:29:24] <Time-Warp> dpkg -i coffee.deb
4600 [17:29:24] <dpkg> package coffee.deb is already installed
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4602 [17:29:35] <Neomex> im connecting through wpa
4603 [17:29:41] <Neomex> with netmanager it doesnt want to at all
4604 [17:29:48] <Neomex> dmesg looks fine
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4607 [17:30:43] <Iridos> uh. bug #842226
4608 [17:30:44] <judd> Bug
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4609 [17:30:54] <Iridos> "yeah, we broke it. it was
intentional. end of story."
4610 [17:30:56] <Iridos> great
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4619 [17:33:36] <Iridos> dpkg, dmesg is also dmesg as non-root
from stretch on, see bug #842226 and
replaced-url
4620 [17:33:36] <dpkg> Iridos: okay
4621 [17:33:42] <Iridos> dpkg, dmesg
4622 [17:33:42] <dpkg> dmesg is used to examine or control the
kernel ring buffer. /var/log/dmesg gives you the whole thing from
boot time, the `dmesg' command shows you current ring buffer
contents. dmesg as non-root from stretch on, see bug #842226 and
replaced-url
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4638 [17:39:20] <Iridos> I dunno… I find those security
measures that limit information a bit dubious
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4641 [17:39:33] <Iridos> sure, that makes things potentially
harder for an attacker
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4656 [17:40:16] <pagios> so i have this weird problem with my
printer, i set a print preview and it displays just fine. it just
prints in landscape mode on half of the a4 paper, how can i fix
this? the settings are all correct
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4704 [17:57:14] <ChrisH> pagios: Did this ever work? Does it work
in portrait? Has the printer enough memory to handle that page?
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4707 [17:58:27] <r3> I've cloned a system, and now have its
filesystem mounted elsewhere in order to make changes to it so that
it is unique (hostname, ip address, etc.). I would also like to fix
ssh so that when I bring the system up on its own I may ssh into it
without issue. Since this is a mounted filesystem, I cannot do
"dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server", but I am able to do the
commands on this page: [
4708 [17:58:27] <r3>
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4709 [17:58:27] <r3> seems to work, but want to be sure I'm
not fooling myself)
4710 [17:58:58] <tracphil> hi all. I am looking to install npm on
Debian Testing, however, I can't find it with apt search. Dose
anyone know if it is hiding in a different package name?
4711 [17:59:06] <pagios> ChrisH, it works now but only prints in
grey no colors
4712 [17:59:20] <jelly> Iridos: [dmesg restriction] it's a
tiny wee piece of grsec that's really almost useless on its own
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4714 [17:59:56] <jelly> Iridos: but it was EASY to port!
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4716 [18:00:12] <n4dir> tracphil: try apt-file search, i think
that may help
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4718 [18:00:27] <Iridos> jelly, "it made no sense at all, but
we did it anyway, because it was easy"
4719 [18:00:56] <tracphil> @n4dir, I will give that a shot!
4720 [18:01:11] <Neomex> could buying wifi adapter that is
supported well by debian solve this?
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4722 [18:02:14] <Iridos> I'm not at all sure how I feel about
this… you're limiting freedom of the users on the
system… and for what. Reminds me of that Stallman interview
where he warned against doing just exactly that
4723 [18:02:25] <jelly> Iridos: that's basically 50% of what
KSPP does
4724 [18:02:48] <jelly> you have a workaround boot param, set it
and forget it
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4726 [18:03:17] <Iridos> being even moar lazy, I set an echo >
/sys… with @reboot in root's crontab
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4729 [18:03:36] <Iridos> still…
4730 [18:03:51] <jelly> theoretically there's sysfsutils
4731 [18:03:59] <Iridos> more security from attacks would be
nice… but not so much at the cost of everything else
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4738 [18:04:37] <jelly> if you need security from attacks, you
will set up quite a lot more than that feature
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4740 [18:05:08] <Iridos> well… everyone wants to be safe
from attacks…
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4742 [18:05:12] <jelly> like, a custom kernel and hide symbols
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4744 [18:05:20] <jelly> and restrict /proc by default
4745 [18:05:42] <Iridos> the question is if you want to sacrifice
having a working system for that
4746 [18:06:12] <jelly> if you need it, you need it
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4753 [18:07:37] <jelly> but enabling just this one tiny piece by
default is silly. (and it's upstream silliness, not Debian
silliness, if you consider that an excuse)
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4765 [18:12:54] <pagios> any idea how to install these linux cups/
color filters on ubuntu / linux?
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4768 [18:13:49] <jelly> pagios: if you're targeting an ubuntu
installation, ask in #ubuntu
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4770 [18:14:06] <pagios> jelly, targetting debian
4771 [18:14:28] <jelly> pagios: which debian release do you have?
4772 [18:15:02] <jelly> pagios: what does this say on your system:
dpkg -l cups|tail -n 1
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4776 [18:17:25] <pagios> 2.1.3 jelly
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4778 [18:18:21] <jelly> pagios: can you show the exact output?
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4782 [18:18:59] <jelly> ii cups 2.2.1-8 i386 Common UNIX Printing
System(tm) - PPD/driver support, web interface # something like this
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4785 [18:19:18] <jelly> ,v cups
4786 [18:19:26] <judd> Package: cups on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.5.3-5+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 1.5.3-5+deb7u6; jessie:
1.7.5-11+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1.7.5-11+deb8u1;
jessie-proposed-updates: 1.7.5-11+deb8u2; jessie-backports:
2.2.1-8~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.2.1-8; buster: 2.2.6-2; sid: 2.2.6-2
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4792 [18:21:24] <CHVNXXX> Hi folks. I have an issue regarding
midi. For some reason, if using the computer keyboard or a synth
attached via USB to midi, holding down a key (playing a note)
triggers multiple midi events instead of just one. So, instead of
pressing a note and allowing it to sustain, it constantly spams midi
trigger events, making it seem like I'm pressing the key many
times instead of once.
4793 [18:21:37] <CHVNXXX> I have no idea how to troubleshoot this
problem, but it would seem to *not* be my USB adapter since it also
happens when using a computer keyboard. That makes me assume its a
software issue
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4802 [18:23:33] <CHVNXXX> Using jackd, a2jmidid, aconnect, and
various synth softwares. Using aseqdump to track midi events.
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4808 [18:26:56] <jhutchins_wk> CHVNXXX: The only insight I can
offer is that it sounds like keyboard repeat when you hold down a
key.
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4811 [18:27:47] <CHVNXXX> Yes, that's what happens. Pressing
and holding a key repeats the keystroke instead of just once.
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4813 [18:28:11] <CHVNXXX> But it happens with my computer keyboard
as well as an actual synth via MIDI interface.
4814 [18:28:21] <CHVNXXX> So, it's software not hardware
related.
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4820 [18:30:31] <jelly> pagios: I guess you could download the
tarball(s), look at the contents and see if you can put them in the
right place on your system
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4823 [18:31:21] <pagios> then?
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4826 [18:31:45] <jelly> pagios: restart cups, dunno? I don't
know what color filters do.
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4841 [18:36:30] <r3> CHVNXXX: might look in BIOS settings for key
repeat or similar?
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4847 [18:38:00] <r3> typically, computer keyboards will repeat
when held down, so something in software might be able to override
that default, or something in BIOS might be overriding the software.
Hard to say.
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4850 [18:38:56] <CHVNXXX> r3: the thing that seems odd to me is
that it doesn't seem to using specific timing intervals. When I
depress a key, it doesn't repeat at a set rate or bpm, like I
would expect from a key repeat setting being turned on.
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4852 [18:39:37] <CHVNXXX> There's usually a short delay after
pressing a key, and then the repeater turns on. In my case,
it's as if the repeater is set to randomize the length of time
and amount of repeats.
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4858 [18:40:14] <CHVNXXX> Only, I don't think it's a
repeater because of the randomized nature of the midi events.
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4864 [18:42:48] <CHVNXXX> I should note that I have the rtkit
daemon running, too.
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4870 [18:43:48] <Qas> hello there, I'd like to install
rstudio, but it is only available for Debian 8, whereas I have
stretch.
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4872 [18:44:42] <greycat> you can typically add an older
release's sources to your sources.list without problems, but if
the package has a HUGE number of dependencies, things could get
unpleasant
4873 [18:44:49] <arora> ,p rstudio
4874 [18:44:58] <r3> CHVNXXX: typically, there IS a short delay
before a computer keyboard will repeat when a key is held down.
4875 [18:45:05] <greycat> like, I would not attempt to install
something the size of KDE or GNOME from a past release
4876 [18:45:06] <jelly> ,v rstudio
4877 [18:45:08] <judd> No package named 'rstudio' was
found in amd64.
4878 [18:45:13] <brw> there are people with solutions, Qas. Check
google. I found a few just with some simple searches
4879 [18:45:18] <jelly> not in jessie, not anywhere
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4882 [18:45:46] <greycat> Qas: is this a DEBIAN package, or a
third party package?
4883 [18:45:48] <jelly> Qas: is that the actual package name? Does
it come from debian.org?
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4891 [18:46:59] <Qas> no, rstudio is an IDE for R programming. it
is offered both in OS and commercial versions
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4893 [18:47:10] <CHVNXXX> r3: Yes, I know there is usually a short
delay. That delay is a fixed variable. In my case, the delays
between events are not fixed. There is no pattern. Depressing a key
gives (seemingly) random events at random intervals. That's the
problem. That's why I'm here.
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4896 [18:47:23] <Iridos> whatsapp seems to be able to cut videos
made on the mobile with ease… you select the from/to range
and it must cut without any recoding, because it seems
instant… any idea how they do that or what software that is
and if that's something to have on a debian system?
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4898 [18:47:57] <jelly> ffmpeg?
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4901 [18:48:29] <Qas> brw, thank you, I will check these
4902 [18:48:36] <arora_> Qas: theres a thread on that
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4906 [18:49:02] <arora_> irssi just blew up for me ;(
4907 [18:49:09] <ScottE> Qas: Did you try the rstudio website?
"RStudio 1.1.383 - Ubuntu 16.04+/Debian 9+ (64-bit)" is
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4909 [18:49:21] <jelly> Iridos: it might be recoding just the
first couple frames until it hits the next I frame
4910 [18:49:26] <Qas> arora, I was just looking at that :)
4911 [18:49:45] <arora_> ScottE: maybe he's on a 32bit pc
4912 [18:49:56] <jelly> Iridos: since most smartphones and tablets
have a hw h264 codec this is probably cheap
4913 [18:49:59] <Iridos> jelly, yeah… but I guess doing
that on my desktop is pretty much out of the question?
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4916 [18:50:29] <Qas> ScottE, oh my..I clearly overlooked it
4917 [18:50:35] <Qas> sorry for taking your time
4918 [18:50:38] <Qas> everyone
4919 [18:50:47] <jelly> Iridos: I have no idea how to ask ffmpeg
to do it but it can probably do it. At the very least it should be
able to cut on I frames.
4920 [18:50:57] <arora_> oh lol Qas
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4922 [18:51:07] <Iridos> well, but that usually recodes the whole
thing
4923 [18:51:17] <r3> CHVNXXX: I'm not sure this is something
that #debian can help with, as I believe it to be a) a hardware
issue, b) software making it look like a hardware issue, c) vendor
specific. Sorry, I would contact support of the vendor of the midi
solution
4924 [18:51:19] <Iridos> (and ffmpeg for some reason never worked
for me)
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4927 [18:51:42] <Qas> ScottE, thank you!!
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4929 [18:51:55] <Iridos> avidemux does that… but only for
pretty specific containers/codecs/whatever
4930 [18:51:56] <jelly> Iridos: that sounds like a layer8 issue
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4934 [18:52:17] <Iridos> maybe
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4936 [18:52:25] <ScottE> You're welcome Qas. Good luck!
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4960 [18:57:55] <dka> how can i FIND starting my directory all the
file called package.json which contain a particular string and print
the file location?
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4962 [18:58:49] <brw> probably have to get creative with some
multipiping. find to get the list of files | grep or sed or
something
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4965 [18:59:10] <CHVNXXX> r3: You must have missed the part where
I specifically said it was unrelated to the midi hardware interface
since it happens with keyboards. I can do it with a software
keyboard. However, I wills top wasting everybody's time. Thank
you for yours. Bye.
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4976 [19:01:32] <jelly> dka: first find all the matching file
paths. then grep -l for the string
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4979 [19:01:55] <Qas> ScottE, thanks! :)
4980 [19:02:05] <porton> is it true that Java is supported in
Debian worse than Python?
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4982 [19:02:25] <greycat> How would you measure the goodness of
support for a programming language, anyway?
4983 [19:02:28] <Qas> thank you everyone, stay well!
4984 [19:02:29] <porton> (I am choosing whether to use Java or
Python for my new project)
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4987 [19:02:58] <jelly> dka: something like find . -name
ponies.txt -print0 | xargs -0 grep -Zl 'particular string'
| xargs -o do something with those files here
4988 [19:03:02] <jelly> whoops
4989 [19:03:08] <greycat> I should think "how well does
Debian support it" is one of the LESS important criteria in
that decision.
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4991 [19:03:14] <jelly> dka: find . -name ponies.txt -print0 |
xargs -0 grep -Zl 'particular string' | xargs -0 do
something with those files here
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4993 [19:03:23] <porton> greycat: why?
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4995 [19:03:48] <greycat> jelly: I think he crossposted the
question, because I saw an answer in #bash that seems like it might
have been for the same question that you're answering here.
4996 [19:03:57] <jelly> very possible
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4998 [19:04:54] <greycat> 12:59 koala_man> find mydir -name
package.json -exec grep -q 'particular string' {} \;
-print
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5011 [19:06:12] <jelly> using exit status of grep and -exec as
just another test is nifty
5012 [19:06:43] <jelly> but I don't like -exec, can you tell
5013 [19:06:57] <greycat> porton: Some criteria that seem more
important might include "How suited is the language to solving
this task", "Do I need compiled-language speed",
"How fluent am I (or is my team) in this language", and so
on.
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5016 [19:07:30] <porton> greycat: so I should choose Java, thanks
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5020 [19:07:49] <jelly> replacing an OS platform down the line if
need be will be a lot easier than replacing the chosen language
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5022 [19:08:21] <porton> jelly: it is not just for me, but for the
entire world (including other Debian users)
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5025 [19:08:33] <porton> and not only Debian
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5029 [19:09:34] <porton> !java
5030 [19:09:35] <dpkg> Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO
language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java
implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other
implementations packaged; for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"
systems, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64
only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java
alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>,
<java-package>.
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5036 [19:10:09] <jelly> !factinfo java
5037 [19:10:09] <dpkg> java -- last modified at Thu Jun 11
07:46:03 2009 by
plugwash!n=plugwash@cpc3-stkp6-0-0-cust449.manc.cable.ntl.com; it
has been requested 1177 times, last by porton, 35s ago.
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5044 [19:10:56] <greycat> I am absolutely not up to date on Java,
especially after Oracle took over.
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5046 [19:11:18] <porton> greycat: I'm too
5047 [19:11:43] <brw> Java is a dumpster fire.
5048 [19:11:59] <brw> I'm trying to kill huge swaths of it.
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5050 [19:12:09] <brw> its worse than struts. heh
5051 [19:12:50] <porton> brw: so I think I should use Python for
my new project? (BTW, I already know Python quite well)
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5056 [19:14:55] <greycat> !start a language war
5057 [19:14:55] <dpkg> Python is more efficient than Lua
5058 [19:15:13] <jelly> but which python? python3? pypy? Jython?
5059 [19:15:26] <porton> jelly: pypy most likely
5060 [19:15:42] <jelly> porton: be advised there is no pypy3 in
debian
5061 [19:15:48] <jelly> yet
5062 [19:15:50] <porton> jelly: I know
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5065 [19:16:12] <jelly> and why would you start a new project with
python 2.7 in 2017
5066 [19:16:24] <porton> jelly: to have pypy speed
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5068 [19:16:48] * teraflops shrugs
5069 [19:16:57] <jelly> does it need speed?
5070 [19:17:06] <porton> jelly: likely no, but maybe
5071 [19:17:17] <jelly> what does it do?
5072 [19:17:51] <porton> jelly:
replaced-url
5073 [19:18:04] <dka> ty jelly
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5075 [19:18:33] <porton> jelly: by calling external scripts to
transform XML
5076 [19:19:24] <teraflops> you can call external scripts from
python3 too
5077 [19:19:37] <jelly> and from java too, amusingly
5078 [19:19:42] <teraflops> indeed
5079 [19:19:54] <greycat> if the "external scripts" are
doing all the work, I'd pick Python over Java in a heartbeat.
5080 [19:19:59] <jelly> ,v openjdk-9-jdk
5081 [19:20:01] <judd> Package: openjdk-9-jdk on amd64 --
stretch-backports: 9~b181-4~bpo9+1; buster: 9.0.1+11-1; sid:
9.0.1+11-1
5082 [19:20:02] <teraflops> xD
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5084 [19:20:44] <porton> greycat: I think they do most work, but
it should not surprise if 30% or even more of the work is not by the
core not external scripts
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5087 [19:21:01] <porton> if 30% or even more of the work is by the
core not external scripts
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5094 [19:23:15] <teraflops> if youre asking about which one is
_better_ (python or java) I dont think this is the right place for
such question
5095 [19:23:56] <greycat> He started by asking which one is
"better supported" in Debian, though I still don't
know what that means.
5096 [19:23:58] <porton> teraflops: as I remember, in this channel
I asked only whether Debian has good Java support (like Python)
5097 [19:24:32] <teraflops> porton: I started my phrase with _if_
5098 [19:24:46] <teraflops> also what greycat said
5099 [19:25:21] <porton> greycat: in Java channel they said that
Java is not very well supported by Debian
5100 [19:25:31] <porton> greycat: this is the reason why I asked
here
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5102 [19:26:04] <teraflops> porton: did they give you any
explanation?
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5104 [19:26:10] <greycat> I am guessing what they mean is
"Debian doesn't build every new version as quickly as we
release it"
5105 [19:26:33] <greycat> but you would have to ask them to be
sure what they meant
5106 [19:26:35] <porton> teraflops: as I remember, there was no
explanation
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5109 [19:26:48] <teraflops> …
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5114 [19:27:56] <gamex> hi
5115 [19:27:57] <porton> dreamreal> because you want tight and
easy integration with debian
5116 [19:27:57] <porton> <dreamreal> if that's your
criterion, java won't ever really fit
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5118 [19:28:38] <gamex> i am running debian and have bumblee. I
want to know if it's possible to play counter strike global
offensive game. Does anyone have any idea how to check?
5119 [19:28:52] <teraflops> gamex: go install it?
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5122 [19:29:00] <gamex> teraflops: will it work?
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5124 [19:29:10] <teraflops> gamex: it depends on your GPU model
& specs
5125 [19:29:14] <gamex> I also have graphics driver gtx 860m 2gb
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5127 [19:29:28] <gamex> and dont want to buy before know it will
work
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5129 [19:29:57] <arora> gamex: what are you planning to buy?
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5131 [19:30:18] <gamex> arora: the game man
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5137 [19:31:36] <greycat> Regardless of which language you choose,
if your project wants to use all the new features of every new
release of the language, then you will probably end up just using
the upstream releases of the language, rather than the OS packages.
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5141 [19:32:16] <arora> gamex: i joined late so dont know which
game you are talking about.
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5143 [19:32:34] <gamex> arora: Counter Strike Global Offensive in
steam
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5145 [19:32:59] <zu22> hey everyone, i am looking for a web
analysis program of git, something like darcsweb. i couldn't
find anything. any ideas?
5146 [19:33:02] <rakor> Hey there running a Stretch default
installation on a ThinpkPad x220 I found that the system connects
really fast to my wifi. But it I am in flightmode and have an
ethernet-cable connected it takes up to 10 seconds until it
connects.
5147 [19:33:04] <teraflops> gamex: check game specs. search the
intertubes. ask in other Linux channels too
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5149 [19:33:36] <rakor> Do you have an idea why? I thought the
cable-connection should be established faster as a wifi
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5152 [19:34:03] <Agiofws> hello
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5155 [19:34:18] <zu22> Agiosws: hello
5156 [19:34:19] <Agiofws> is it safe to upgrade debian 8 to 9 over
ssh ?
5157 [19:34:28] <zu22> sure why not?
5158 [19:34:31] <gamex> teraflops: do you have any idea?
5159 [19:34:33] <greycat> Should be.
5160 [19:34:37] <teraflops> gamex: also in steam forums
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5162 [19:34:43] <RoyK> Agiofws: should be, but make sure you have
a backup
5163 [19:34:45] <Agiofws> i mean would this lead into problems if
i don;t have physical access to the box?
5164 [19:34:48] <teraflops> gamex: no...
5165 [19:34:52] <gamex> teraflops: i looked..
5166 [19:34:57] <Agiofws> ok thanks
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5168 [19:35:08] <greycat> Agiofws: the main gotchas in 9 are video
driver stuff for desktops
5169 [19:35:09] <gamex> teraflops: what is intertubes?
5170 [19:35:16] <zu22> I am running wheezy on my VPS and am very
pleased! :)
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5174 [19:35:42] <gamex> teraflops: also what other channels? I am
running debian. how is it going to help me?
5175 [19:35:55] <porton> I have a r8169 Ethernet. It disconnects
about every hour. What the hell?!
5176 [19:36:01] <teraflops> it's Linux afterall
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5179 [19:36:25] <teraflops> gamex: lot of gamers in #archlinux and
#ubuntu
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5181 [19:36:34] <gamex> and here?
5182 [19:36:35] <Agiofws> WELL THIS MACHINE always HAD VGA driver
problems it has an onboard skylake chip :P
5183 [19:36:42] <gamex> teraflops: do you talk with your
experience or?
5184 [19:36:43] <Agiofws> we'll see
5185 [19:36:46] <teraflops> intertubes = the internet
5186 [19:37:03] <teraflops> gamex: no I never played that
game.....
5187 [19:37:11] <Agiofws> but i think the card is somewhat
problematic
5188 [19:37:36] <gamex> I will wait maybe someone know any idea
about it
5189 [19:37:45] <jelly> Agiofws: it's reasonably safe, but
have console access ready in case you mange to get the system into a
non-bootable state
5190 [19:38:28] <jelly> Agiofws: I suggest also running the
release upgrade procedure inside screen or tmux
5191 [19:38:33] <Crises> hi, can someone help me? i dont know why
i cant use the fn key for the touchpad
5192 [19:38:47] <Crises> i tried a lot of howto, but no one works
5193 [19:38:57] <Agiofws> i'm upgrading through ssh so i have
console access would not want to upgrade remotely through a remote
DE environment.
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5196 [19:39:39] <Agiofws> jelly, what if i'm prompted with a
ncurses screen will it go through ssh?
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5198 [19:39:57] <jelly> Agiofws: by "console" I mean
literal physical console, keyboard and monitor
5199 [19:40:06] <jelly> (or IPMI)
5200 [19:40:17] <jelly> Agiofws: it will.
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5212 [19:40:37] <jelly> that really depends on your terminal
emulator, not ssh
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5214 [19:40:51] <Agiofws> idon;t have access to the box right
i'm into the box remotely through ssh
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5217 [19:40:57] <Agiofws> ok then
5218 [19:41:10] <jelly> hmm
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5224 [19:42:28] <zu22> wtf
5225 [19:42:42] <zu22> what is all this joins from matrix.org?
5226 [19:42:46] <zu22> channel takeover?
5227 [19:42:51] <gamex> who
5228 [19:43:23] <greycat> Their proxy-server-thing crashed.
5229 [19:43:25] <gamex> prob restart. u scare?
5230 [19:43:28] <somiaj> zu22: could just be a gateway went down
and came back up causing a group of people using it to part then
join again.
5231 [19:43:29] <zu22> oh
5232 [19:43:33] <greycat> So all the users disconnected and
reconnected en masse.
5233 [19:43:34] <zu22> ok
5234 [19:43:35] <jelly> zu22: the network is just unstable, ignore
it
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5243 [19:46:07] <tsukuyomi> hi
5244 [19:46:22] <arora> hey tsukuyomi
5245 [19:46:33] <tsukuyomi> after upgrading from stable to testing
I'm unable to use text editors such as gedit/pluma in sudo
mode, I get this error:
replaced-url
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5248 [19:47:23] <mtn> tsukuyomi: never run gui apps with sudo. use
gksudo
5249 [19:47:27] <LtL> tsukuyomi: a GUI editor needs
'gksudo' fyi.
5250 [19:47:34] <tsukuyomi> I see
5251 [19:47:41] <tsukuyomi> before I always used sudo o.o
5252 [19:47:59] <greycat> (or learn a real text editor)
5253 [19:48:02] <tsukuyomi> thanks guys - what is the difference
between sudo and gksudo?
5254 [19:48:06] <mtn> tsukuyomi: you can ruin your permissions
that way
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5256 [19:48:14] <LtL> tsukuyomi: gui versus cli
5257 [19:48:32] <tsukuyomi> ah
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5259 [19:48:36] <tsukuyomi> thanks :)
5260 [19:49:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1707
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5262 [19:50:12] <somiaj> tsukuyomi: sudo cleans up the enviorment,
gksudo keeps info abou tthe xserver so you can run gui apps.
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5267 [19:52:50] <tsukuyomi> I'm getting a gksudo - command
not found
5268 [19:52:57] <somiaj> tsukuyomi: so install it.
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5270 [19:53:08] <tsukuyomi> unable to locate package, somiaj
5271 [19:53:16] <gamex> tsukuyomi: what is your issue?
5272 [19:53:30] <somiaj> tsukuyomi: apt search gksudo
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5274 [19:53:43] <tsukuyomi> well that's what I'm doing
:p
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5276 [19:54:23] <teraflops> ,v gksu
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5278 [19:54:24] <judd> Package: gksu on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.0.2-6;
jessie: 2.0.2-9; buster: 2.0.2-9+b1; sid: 2.0.2-9+b1; stretch:
2.0.2-9+b1
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5281 [19:54:52] <teraflops> tsukuyomi: gksudo gedit sounds awful
though
5282 [19:54:53] <tsukuyomi> then it's gksu, someone said
gksudo
5283 [19:55:03] <teraflops> the command is gksudo
5284 [19:55:11] <tsukuyomi> teraflops: you want me to use nano? :p
5285 [19:55:20] <teraflops> sudo nano works
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5287 [19:55:41] <tsukuyomi> or vim? :P
5288 [19:55:51] <teraflops> that's up to you
5289 [19:56:16] <tsukuyomi> I find gui text editors more user
friendly
5290 [19:56:19] <gamex> tsukuyomi: sudo -i works?
5291 [19:56:45] <gamex> why do you want to run text editor as a
sudo?
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5293 [19:57:22] <tsukuyomi> because I had to modify
/etc/apt/sources.list
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5296 [19:58:12] <gamex> Can you do it with nano or vi?
5297 [19:58:19] <tsukuyomi> theoretically yes
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5300 [19:58:34] <gamex> So do it
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5303 [19:58:44] <tsukuyomi> it's just more bothersome xD
5304 [19:58:53] <greycat> Seriously, I strongly recommend you
learn at least one terminal-based editor.
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5306 [19:59:25] <tsukuyomi> alright
5307 [19:59:29] <tsukuyomi> I'll do it
5308 [19:59:46] <gamex> tsukuyomi: what are you trying to do in
that file? it's some sources for the apt..
5309 [20:00:00] <tsukuyomi> yep I'm aware
5310 [20:00:03] <gamex> also
5311 [20:00:07] <gamex> does sudo gedit works?
5312 [20:00:25] <tsukuyomi> nope
5313 [20:00:31] <gamex> what is the output?
5314 [20:00:43] <tsukuyomi>
replaced-url
5315 [20:00:58] <gamex> that's the same paste
5316 [20:01:15] <gamex> I told you to do a different command. I am
trying to help you..
5317 [20:01:26] <tsukuyomi> it gives me the same output gamex
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5319 [20:01:46] <gamex> can you paste in debian paste the output?
5320 [20:02:15] <teraflops> tsukuyomi: it looks like xhost+ might
work there
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5322 [20:02:48] <teraflops> anyway learning a terminal-based
editor wont hurt, or using gksudo even
5323 [20:02:51] <tsukuyomi>
replaced-url
5324 [20:02:56] <greycat> DO NOT use xhost +
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5326 [20:02:58] <greycat> jesus
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5328 [20:03:11] <greycat> !xhost
5329 [20:03:11] <dpkg> xhost is EVIL! There are so many other ways
of getting remote X apps to work that xhost should never be needed.
For a more sensible approach, use SSH X11 forwarding, ask me about
<sshx>. Also see <mit-magic-cookie>,
replaced-url
5330 [20:03:22] <tsukuyomi> I have no idea what that is so I
won't use it
5331 [20:03:30] <teraflops> you can Si:localuser it
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5333 [20:03:50] <SwK> any one have a solution for this error when
invoking pbuilder (via cowbuilder) in an LXC container? E: The
method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found.
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5337 [20:05:29] <tsukuyomi> gamex: do you have any idea why
I'm getting that error?
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5345 [20:08:49] <gamex> tsukuyomi: can you run su; exit?
5346 [20:09:00] <gamex> and then run gedit?
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5349 [20:11:05] <tsukuyomi> gamex: sudo gedit?
5350 [20:11:11] <tsukuyomi> or sudo gedit filename?
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5352 [20:11:26] <gamex> tsukuyomi: do you have the password for
the root user?
5353 [20:11:38] <tsukuyomi> yes
5354 [20:11:48] <tsukuyomi> I thought that was obvious :p
5355 [20:11:59] <gamex> so just type that: su; exit
5356 [20:12:11] <tsukuyomi> and I did
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5359 [20:12:30] <gamex> what is the output of whoami?
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5361 [20:12:41] <tsukuyomi> tsukuyomi
5362 [20:12:48] <jelly> use gksu/gksudo to run gui stuff as root
it you really have to
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5364 [20:13:55] <gamex> type su and the root password. is the
dollar sign changed to hashtag?
5365 [20:14:06] <gamex> then*
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5367 [20:14:17] <greycat> In the time this discussion has taken,
he could have mastered all the features of nano.
5368 [20:14:19] <LtL> gamex: su - [is better]
5369 [20:15:06] <gamex> greycat: yes but he want to run with the
graphical..
5370 [20:15:29] <teraflops> tsukuyomi: yeah youre overthinking it,
go use gksudo/gksu :D
5371 [20:15:47] <gamex> from what i read the problem is with the
permissions..
5372 [20:16:08] <greycat> No, the problem is he is trying to use
an X client program as root.
5373 [20:16:17] <tsukuyomi> brb
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5375 [20:16:27] <gamex> greycat: and why does it cause an errors?
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5377 [20:16:49] <gamex> why does linux complain?
5378 [20:16:54] <teraflops> huh?
5379 [20:17:06] <greycat> because sudo clears the environment,
which includes the DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY variables, so the X client
program can't contact the X server that is running as a
different user
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5381 [20:17:29] <gamex> i see.. you smart!
5382 [20:17:29] <teraflops> hence the error message which is
pretty clear
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5384 [20:17:54] <gamex> in windows it won't happen.
5385 [20:17:58] <teraflops> :S
5386 [20:18:54] <gamex> i know some commands in linux but does i
didnt know.. today i learned..
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5409 [20:29:28] <Dojka> why are all the links for a minimal debian
image down?
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5411 [20:29:50] <Dojka> cant find the minimal server image
anywhere...
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5435 [20:39:51] <jelly> Dojka: which link do you find to be down?
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5439 [20:40:56] <jelly> Dojka: debian.org -> Network install
-> amd64
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5443 [20:41:50] <jelly> points to
replaced-url
5444 [20:42:27] <Time-Warp> jelly: any idea why "iface eth0
inet dhcp" doesnt write to dhclient.leases. creates a new type
of file
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5447 [20:43:00] <heston> is anyone here able to make phone calls
on the web version of skype?
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5449 [20:43:13] <jelly> Time-Warp: not really
5450 [20:43:19] <Time-Warp> me either lol
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5453 [20:43:34] <jelly> heston: SkypeOut or just calls to other
skype users?
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5456 [20:44:03] <heston> jelly, I cant do either atm but Id like
to call a landline
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5458 [20:45:05] <jelly> heston: my phone rings if I call it; did
not allow the browser access to mic to see if it actually works
5459 [20:45:19] <jelly> heston: tested from google chrome
5460 [20:45:29] <heston> ah, maybe that's why
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5462 [20:45:38] <heston> im trying in firefox
5463 [20:45:50] <jelly> try chromium I guess
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5465 [20:46:31] <jelly> I have no idea why MS is so keen to make
skype useless
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5467 [20:46:44] <greycat> so they can sell you their replacement
product
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5470 [20:46:56] <heston> only issue is, is im running wheezy
5471 [20:46:58] <jelly> it IS their product, so wtf
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5473 [20:47:19] <jelly> and users will just switch to a different
free thing
5474 [20:47:21] <greycat> Oh. Well, maybe they bought it
specifically with the intent to kill it.
5475 [20:47:34] <rakor> skype is just bought... Teams (or how it
is named) it theirs ;)
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5477 [20:47:41] <heston> skype seems pretty useful and relevant to
me
5478 [20:47:51] *** Parts: gamex (4fb00fcd@replaced-ip ) ()
5479 [20:48:30] <jelly> (they're also killing Lync/Skype for
Business and pushing Teams because... I guess they have at least 3
teams doing NIH in there)
5480 [20:48:41] <heston> what do you guys use instead of skype on
linux?
5481 [20:49:15] <greycat> A telephone.
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5483 [20:49:46] <heston> you call people from around the world on
your regular phone?
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5485 [20:49:52] <jelly> right now, web.skype.com and
web.whatsapp.com
5486 [20:49:57] <greycat> I don't call people around the
world, period.
5487 [20:50:24] <jelly> also, a phone
5488 [20:50:33] <rakor> heston:
replaced-url
5489 [20:50:39] <jelly> that is, a smartphone that has a
semi-working skype client
5490 [20:51:04] <jelly> oh deity, is that page still full of crap
and wishful thinking
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5494 [20:51:30] <heston> the thing is, almost everyone has skype
5495 [20:51:35] <heston> or whatsapp
5496 [20:51:44] <jelly> or viber for some reason
5497 [20:51:45] <well_laid_lawn> nope
5498 [20:51:54] <greycat> we do?
5499 [20:51:54] <jelly> or fb messenger
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5501 [20:52:01] <jelly> not sure which is worse
5502 [20:52:15] <jelly> greycat: they do. You're not almost
everyone.
5503 [20:52:24] <greycat> Figures.
5504 [20:52:28] <rakor> everyone has skype? I don't know much
people using skype :)
5505 [20:52:57] <jelly> rakor: if they started using internet
early 2000s they do
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5507 [20:53:05] <heston> ive talked to tons of people from around
the globe that have skype
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5509 [20:53:35] <rakor> jelly: I started using the internet
once... and I used skype... but nowadays?
5510 [20:53:46] <jelly> much like they had icq before that
5511 [20:53:52] <hagabaka> no one calls people any more
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5513 [20:54:39] <rakor> You got those peoplet to know using skype?
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5527 [20:56:02] <jelly> rakor: yes, because teaching a dozen
friends and family members to switch, and have them all switch to
the same thing, is a pain
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5529 [20:56:46] <rakor> jelly: I know... I did it to jabber and
then to threema on the smartphone... :/
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5546 [21:04:07] <Time-Warp> root@f0xy:~/PR0N# ps aux | grep dhcl
5547 [21:04:10] <Time-Warp> root 1079 0.0 0.0 22928 1068 ? Ss
07:25 0:00 /sbin/dhclient -v -cf /var/lib/wicd/dhclient.conf eth0
5548 [21:04:11] <Time-Warp> this looks alot beter
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5575 [21:12:34] <teraflops> yeah you have a pr0n folder…
5576 [21:13:53] <jelly> well it's a foxy system
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5628 [21:33:26] <awal1> dpkg sleeping?
5629 [21:33:26] <dpkg> i guess sleeping is the magical thing geeks
have forgotten how to do
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5634 [21:34:01] <greycat> !sleep
5635 [21:34:01] <dpkg> methinks sleep is for wimpy organic beings.
Or, sleep is probably a poor substitute for coffee or for mortals or
for the weak or the glory of the cowards and the un-caffeinateds.
:-) or the activity of choice for the intelligent person or time
which could be spent hacking the planet.. or .. whatever .. ZZzzzz
... fsck: warning: /dev/brain has gone countless hours without being
checked. Check forced. zZZzzzz... *zonk*
5636 [21:34:19] <Time-Warp> teraflops: opps lol
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5645 [21:37:17] <teraflops> Time-Warp: np
5646 [21:37:19] <teraflops> hehe
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5657 [21:41:24] <heston> if i have a dependency issue, is it
possible to install multiple versions of the same package?
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5664 [21:42:44] <greycat> no
5665 [21:42:47] <somiaj> heston: what version of debian are you
running? And no, it is not possible to install different versions of
the same package.
5666 [21:42:53] <annadane> heston, what's the dependency
issue, post it on paste.debian.net and your sources list
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5668 [21:43:30] <heston> im running wheezy and trying to get libc6
2.15
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5672 [21:43:52] <heston> but if that's the case, even if I
did get it installed that might break everything else
5673 [21:43:53] <somiaj> you don't want to change the version
of libc in debian.
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5676 [21:44:07] <somiaj> why do you need a differnt verision of
libc than what comes with wheezy?
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5678 [21:44:21] <heston> for google chrome
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5680 [21:44:55] <greycat> why the hell are you trying to run a
modern browser on a desktop machine that's two releases behind
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5683 [21:45:25] <somiaj> wheezy hasn't had desktop security
for a long time anyways, for a desktop you probably should be
running at least jessie, if not stretch.
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5685 [21:45:32] <heston> everything else is working fine and
upgrading would be a lot of work
5686 [21:45:42] <heston> but i get it
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5692 [21:46:52] <somiaj> heston: now is as good of time as any to
upgrade to stretch for a desktop (you would have to upgrade to
jessie first though)
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5694 [21:47:07] <somiaj> heston: but wheeyz has not been supported
for desktop software for years now.
5695 [21:47:27] <heston> I mostly just use the web
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5697 [21:48:06] <somiaj> then you probably want to be running
stretch so you can have a system that gets regular security updates
on its browser.
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5699 [21:48:18] <somiaj> wheezy has not had any security updates
on its browers for years.
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5701 [21:48:27] <ilmostro> :D
5702 [21:49:07] <somiaj> jessie has already lost security updates
for chromium, and firefox-esr will only be updated for jessie for
another 6 months or os
5703 [21:49:10] <heston> ive been getting updates for firefox-esr
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5706 [21:49:28] <somiaj> ,v firefox-esr
5707 [21:49:29] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie:
45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-backports/firefox-release:
52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; stretch: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; wheezy-security:
52.5.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 52.5.0esr-1~deb8u1;
jessie-security: 52.5.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-proposed-updates:
52.5.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 52.5.0esr-1~deb9u1; buster:
52.5.0esr-1; sid:
5708 [21:49:30] <judd> 52.5.0esr-1
5709 [21:49:48] <ilmostro> I wonder if anyone knows, are there
more recent kernel versions available in any of the debian repos?
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5711 [21:50:19] <somiaj> heston: hmm, didn't realize that
wheezy-lts team was providing updates for firefox-esr for wheezy.
Usually the lts team only supports server software.
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5713 [21:50:26] <somiaj> ,kernels
5714 [21:50:28] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.14.0-trunk-686-pae (4.14-1~exp1); sid:
4.14.0-1-686-pae (4.14.2-1); buster: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.13-1);
stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch:
4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.51-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686
(4.9.51-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u5);
wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
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5716 [21:50:29] <judd> (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy:
3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1)
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5718 [21:50:52] <heston> yeah, it's been nice
5719 [21:50:55] <somiaj> ilmostro: via stretch-backports you can
get 4.13, though in general I suggest using the stock 4.9 kernel
with stretch unless you really need some new hardware support.
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5721 [21:51:45] <ilmostro> somiaj: yeah, threadripper; I thought
using the upcoming "buster" repos would provide those.
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5723 [21:51:56] <heston> well im just going to run a livecd to
make some skype calls me thinks
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5726 [21:52:45] <ilmostro> so I have to switch back to
"stretch" in order to use the "backports"
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5731 [21:54:05] <heston> thanks for the help, ttyl
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5744 [21:59:12] <arora> ,v gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi
5745 [21:59:13] <judd> Package: gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi on amd64 --
stretch: 4:6.3.0-4; buster: 4:7.2.0-1d1; sid: 4:7.2.0-1d1
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5747 [22:01:07] <somiaj> arora: you can /msg judd v foo, if you
just want that info for yourself and not spam the channel.
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5771 [22:10:07] <dff> how do i get netstat to print the complete
foreign address | column -t isnt doin it for me
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5777 [22:11:58] <mutante> dff: how is netstat --wide
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5786 [22:16:50] <hellyeah> is there a command to re-generate
folders in the dropbox?
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6031 [22:57:10] <NoCode> Will Debian Testing CD ISO boot from USB?
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6037 [22:58:43] * greycat wonders what a Debian Testing CD ISO is
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6073 [23:18:59] <Datenreisen> Hello, i need some help with my
wlan. I have tryed so many things but nothing workt out. Please take
a look:
replaced-url
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6083 [23:23:42] <uvw> What command would I use to bring up the
debian installer again?
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6086 [23:24:30] <mtn> uvw: do you mean tasksel?
6087 [23:24:48] <Datenreisen> I always get this message:
replaced-url
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6111 [23:31:29] <uvw> mtn: not sure...
replaced-url
6112 [23:32:01] <mtn> uvw: you want that to show up on an
installed debian? why?
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6115 [23:32:56] <Spida> how can I set the hostname used for
"hostname --fqdn" (which is different from the one used by
hostname, which is set from /etc/hostname)?
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6117 [23:33:38] <uvw> mtn: to populate a blank disk with a new
installation / since I cannot run the CD (there's no drive),
and booting over network is a hassle with this non-x86 BIOS
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6121 [23:34:14] <mtn> uvw: I think there are ways to run the iso
from an installed os, but don't know how to do so
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6125 [23:35:24] <mtn> uvw: you don't have a dvd drive or usb
ports?
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6127 [23:36:13] <uvw> I am sure there is, hence I was thinking of
just running said program and skipping having to extract the program
from the ISO
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6130 [23:36:52] <mtn> uvw: running the program from where?
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6188 [23:37:10] <uvw> the existing system
6189 [23:37:23] <mtn> uvw: what existing system?
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6193 [23:37:39] <uvw> maybe something like `mount iso;
/iso/runme.sh` is all I need - I will check.
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