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• 2[00:03:08] <nvz> embden: thats not on topic here, this is a support channel, join the OFTC network on irc.debian.org or irc.oftc.net and join #debian-outreach
• 3[00:03:18] <nvz> see also replaced-url
• 4[00:04:39] <nvz> such a decision would be official business, this is no longer an official channel, and we are all volunteers supporting debian stable technical issues
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• 20[00:18:26] <giaco> I am confused by how package pinning works
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• 23[00:19:37] <giaco> I have both stable and testing deb repo in sources.list, but I have sources.prefs set to buster:900, bullseye:750
• 24[00:19:53] <giaco> I've performed dist-upgrade, and it moved many packages to bullseye
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• 33[00:23:52] <spacebug^> !pinning
• 34[00:23:52] <dpkg> Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at replaced-url
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• 43[00:27:24] <giaco> spacebug^: I think my problem was the incorrect format of files in /eta/apt/preferences.d
• 44[00:27:37] <spacebug^> ok
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• 46[00:27:49] <giaco> I had a preferences.prefs in it, but I see that apt-cache policy is not picking it
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• 147[01:50:55] <fuxxy> anyone have the recipe handy for the sizes the installer chooses for "full disk, separate /home, /var, /tmp" ?
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• 167[02:10:54] <fuxxy> Is there a separate configuration conffile for mysqlcheck?
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• 171[02:12:35] <fuxxy> I see, /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
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• 267[03:22:16] <user217_> hello. Can I get help with support of type-c hub on debian?
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• 271[03:23:18] <Penix> user217_: most likely
• 272[03:23:38] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Debian runs "opensshd.init.in" on installing openssh-server, correct?
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• 274[03:23:59] <user217_> Penix: I get identify problem with type-c hub
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• 277[03:24:55] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> The output of $(apt source openssh-server) contains such a file.
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• 284[03:30:26] <fuxxy> Has anyone managed to get letsencrypt wildcard certificates working with debian and freedns.afraid.org?
• 285[03:32:02] <quadrathoch2> fuxxy, should it work? as you would need a dns01 cert
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• 288[03:32:26] <quadrathoch2> and normally with dyndns provider you can't get that as you have no control over the dns entries
• 289[03:32:47] <fuxxy> It works in manual mode, I just can't figure a way to automate it
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• 293[03:35:24] <quadrathoch2> fuxxy, I see it more of a issue with them, so maybe you should ask them. it's not really a debian issue
• 294[03:35:57] <fuxxy> ahh, okay
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• 297[03:36:59] <quadrathoch2> fuxxy, and as I read it, Wildcard DNS is only for paid users?
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• 305[03:39:10] <fuxxy> paid users for what?
• 306[03:39:37] <quadrathoch2> the freends.afraid.org
• 307[03:39:41] <fuxxy> with freedns.afraid.org, you have to own your domain, but otherwise, everything is usable
• 308[03:40:05] <quadrathoch2> idk, it tells me on the right that the Wildcard DNS is only $5
• 309[03:40:41] <fuxxy> oh, that's wildcard DNS, not the wildcard SSL certificate
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• 311[03:41:21] <quadrathoch2> fuxxy, lol, even I misread, sorry :(
• 312[03:41:37] <quadrathoch2> i thought it meant certs
• 313[03:41:54] <quadrathoch2> fuxxy, are you trying to use certbot?
• 314[03:42:05] <fuxxy> I would like to, yes.
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• 316[03:42:26] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Certbot requires owning the full domain?
• 317[03:42:44] <quadrathoch2> Aurora_iz_kosmos, no
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• 319[03:42:48] <fuxxy> If managed through freedns.afraid.org, I read it does
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• 321[03:43:07] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> That's somewhat unfortunate.
• 322[03:43:22] <quadrathoch2> fuxxy, well it depends on what you want to use with certbot
• 323[03:43:43] <fuxxy> maybe that's just the tool I was trying to use : acme.sh
• 324[03:43:43] <quadrathoch2> what you are trying to do, means owning the domain
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• 326[03:44:01] <fuxxy> I own the domain, so no issues there
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• 329[03:44:11] <fuxxy> I just don't pay for an external DNS server
• 330[03:44:42] <quadrathoch2> kk
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• 332[03:46:38] <quadrathoch2> fuxxy, which provider for dns do you got? or is it afraid?
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• 335[03:48:40] <fuxxy> for external inquiries, afraid.org. For internal, I run a local BIND9
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• 338[03:50:10] <quadrathoch2> hm. yeah sorry can't help you that much with it. as I never used wildcards (for now)
• 339[03:50:18] <quadrathoch2> and on the other hand it's not a debian issue ^^
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• 343[03:54:21] <tds> fuxxy: what's not working exactly? looks like there are a few hook scripts to talk to afraid.org's stuff from acme.sh
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• 346[03:57:18] <McErroneous> Hi, how do i force apt-get to re-download a already installed package , "apt-get --download-only install <package>" refused...
• 347[03:57:39] <fuxxy> replaced-url
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• 349[03:58:43] <fuxxy> McErroneous, shouldnt it be cached at /var/cache/apt/ ?
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• 351[03:59:08] <McErroneous> fuxxy: , that is why i need a redownload...
• 352[03:59:11] <fuxxy> or do you have reason to believe the cached file is corrupted?
• 353[03:59:12] <fuxxy> ahh
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• 355[03:59:21] <McErroneous> fuxxy: i deleted it..
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• 357[03:59:38] <tds> fuxxy: looks like it runs on a slightly crazy set of commands to try and parse html with regex, so it's possible the freedns stuff has changed layout?
• 358[03:59:59] <tds> replaced-url
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• 361[04:02:01] <McErroneous> fuxxy: nvm me.... , Hi, how do i force apt-get to re-download a already installed package , "apt-get --download-only install <package>" refused...
• 362[04:02:26] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Ah... the classic post can be reposted once more: replaced-url
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• 364[04:04:22] <fuxxy> Aurora_iz_kosmos, I agree, webscraping for what should be presented by API is atrocious. But sometimes it's a necessary (yet easily broken) hack
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• 366[04:05:28] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Fair. I'd probably resort to a legit parser at that point, but I guess that makes it less portable.
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• 370[04:06:50] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> So... I can confirm Debian generates new keys via the included init script. Just tested.
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• 372[04:07:13] <fuxxy> ahh, F$*#&%#$
• 373[04:07:20] <fuxxy> I think I know what it was
• 374[04:07:37] <fuxxy> 1 error
• 375[04:07:37] <fuxxy> Your IP 73.76.163.113 is not on this account's permitted access list. To add 73.76.163.113 to your access list, please follow the instructions sent to you via email.
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• 377[04:07:50] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Eww.
• 378[04:08:09] * fuxxy drives to my ISP's CIO and slaps them in the face
• 379[04:08:16] <fuxxy> s/CIO/CTO
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• 381[04:10:13] <fuxxy> yeah, it freaking worked this time. I need to file a bugreport so this is included as a possible error condition in the wiki / README.md
• 382[04:11:01] <fuxxy> Now, on to the next issue, to get debian's nfs client to play nicely with a windows krb5 nfs server
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• 384[04:11:14] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> So, dynamic IP caused an issue. Is that a step that needs to be redone periodically?
• 385[04:11:57] <fuxxy> depends on the ISP, I guess. My IP only changes if the MAC of the connected router changes
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• 387[04:12:32] <fuxxy> and since I just updated pfsense hardware, my ISP went all Oprah with the IP.
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• 389[04:12:47] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Ah. You get ethernet to home?
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• 391[04:13:34] <fuxxy> Not at all. Xfinity/Comcast
• 392[04:14:15] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> So I suppose they're using a DOCSIS connection?
• 393[04:15:02] <fuxxy> correct. DOCSISv3.1 IIRC
• 394[04:15:31] <joepublic> I don't even get a real IP address (instead 10.screw.u.users) from my cable IP unless I pay for static IP address.
• 395[04:15:57] <joepublic> one of those IPs should read ISP
• 396[04:16:01] <fuxxy> that would be absolutely frustrating
• 397[04:16:16] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> fuxxy: Do you have pfsense installed on an ISP provided router with integrated modem, or did you somehow find some compatible PCI card?
• 398[04:16:26] <McErroneous> is there a channel for debian-APT ?
• 399[04:17:25] <tomreyn> McErroneous: this one should probably work if it's about debian and apt
• 400[04:18:11] <fuxxy> Aurora_iz_kosmos, grin, I was hoping you'd ask. I actually run pfsense in a virtual machine on my rackmount server, with the WAN interface attached to a vLAN. The modem plugs directly to my managed switch, which has the associated port in ACCESS mode vlan to the same
• 401[04:19:14] <fuxxy> I've been meaning to migrate pfsense to an R210ii, but I havent came across one that was easily attainable, yet.
• 402[04:20:29] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Ah, neato.
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• 405[04:21:25] <fuxxy> McErroneous, have you tried 'apt-get download <pkgname>' ?
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• 409[04:23:16] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> I made the mistake of getting a router, but I've found it doesn't scale too well to homelab-ing fun. Nowhere near as nicely as even a VM could.
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• 412[04:24:00] <fuxxy> the VM has made it really easy to backup configs, add interfaces, and set up custom hardware
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• 414[04:24:39] <fuxxy> on my first go-round of esxi 5.0, I was running pfsense with like 8 vNICs, one for each subnet
• 415[04:24:42] <bsld> hello how to install libcurl3 on unstable
• 416[04:24:57] <fuxxy> that would have been completely impractical on physical hardware
• 417[04:25:23] <bsld> i tried replaced-url
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• 420[04:26:02] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Huh, you could possibly have some fun with openvswitch nodes.
• 421[04:26:24] <tds> fuxxy: ah, good to hear you got it going :)
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• 423[04:27:48] <fuxxy> what could be nice, is if I could make esxi become a VTP client/server
• 424[04:28:05] <fuxxy> this would negate the need to configure vLANs on multiple devices
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• 426[04:28:34] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> If your devices are openflow compatible, configuration could also be less annoying.
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• 441[04:37:35] <McErroneous> ^
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• 448[04:42:05] <fuxxy> Aurora_iz_kosmos, I have no idea. Cisco 3560G-24TS ?
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• 572[06:33:34] <nt80> how can I check all possible dependencies of a particular package? (even for packages that are not in my system)
• 573[06:34:01] <nt80> there are two packages that conflict with each other but provide same functionality, so I want to determine which one has more demand
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• 708[09:35:03] <sneakyz> Hey, is it possible to use the mini.iso to boot from UEFI, the only search results were all pretty old
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• 721[09:42:14] <lng> Hi! There is php-redis version 4.2.0-1 in the Debian 10 Docker image, but I need at least 4.3, furthermore, it's 5.0.2+4.3.0-2 for replaced-url
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• 723[09:43:31] <Scribus> !backports
• 724[09:43:32] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. replaced-url
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• 730[09:45:04] <Scribus> well, no. since you use docker a backported php is a bad idea
• 731[09:45:36] <Scribus> lng: out of curiousity - where did you get that docker container?
• 732[09:46:00] <lng> Scribus: `docker run -it debian:latest bash`
• 733[09:48:03] <Scribus> lng: why not "docker pull php" then?
• 734[09:48:16] <lng> can I manually install replaced-url
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• 736[09:48:30] <lng> let me try it
• 737[09:48:45] <lng> is it debian based as well?
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• 739[09:49:48] <Scribus> to be honest - i dont know
• 740[09:50:14] <lng> yes, it is Debian
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• 803[11:03:52] <samba35> ./after create openvswitch with ovs-vsctl how to same the switch permanetly ,so after reboot dont have to create switch again
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• 827[11:19:21] <Resilience> ?
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• 830[11:21:24] <Resilience> I need to download a package from debian repositories, it is the firmware of wireless cards, I am at replaced-url
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• 850[11:39:18] <b1ack0p> sup
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• 864[11:52:08] <themill> Resilience: there is a download link at the bottom of the page you linked
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• 871[11:53:02] <Resilience> thm thanks, I downloaded using apt-get download, now I am having issues with usb stick been mounted read-only
• 872[11:53:37] <Resilience> themill, thanks, I downloaded using apt-get download, now I am having issues with usb stick been mounted read-only
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• 946[12:50:32] <giaco> what makes a package appear in backports repo?
• 947[12:50:52] <ratrace> someone has to upload it there
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• 950[12:51:26] <ratrace> it's literally just that. a maintainer decides a functionality is interesting for an older release and porting is possible and there's no lib/dep conflicts
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• 953[12:52:32] <giaco> ratrace: I've been trying to manually backport using simplified debian instruction but it failed, might that be the reason?
• 954[12:52:57] <ratrace> giaco: not sure I understand what you're asking
• 955[12:53:41] <giaco> ratrace: sorry, I was just trying to justify my inhability to succeed in backporting a package manually
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• 957[12:54:31] <giaco> my only choice is to mix stable/testing packages or go full testing. What would you suggest?
• 958[12:54:36] <ratrace> you can backport packages locally. that has nothing to do with the backports repository to which you need permission and ability to upload to
• 959[12:55:10] <ratrace> !ssb
• 960[12:55:10] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
• 961[12:56:28] <JyZyXEL> judd has a 'checkbackport' command that is also very helpful when considering backporting something
• 962[12:56:42] <ratrace> yea
• 963[12:56:55] <giaco> ratrace: whan I'm saying is that I'm already failing in compiling src pulled from version+1 (manual backporting, don't know if that's the right name)
• 964[12:58:02] <ratrace> giaco: ideally you backport from sid, not from debian-next. see the factoid posted above
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• 966[12:58:42] <giaco> ratrace: yes, I'm re-creating the environment to test just that
• 967[12:58:44] <ratrace> that said, pastebin the compilation output you have, someone might help figuring out the problem
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• 969[12:59:29] <giaco> !bdo
• 970[12:59:29] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <buster backports>) and oldstable (<stretch backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read replaced-url
• 971[13:00:30] <giaco> I don't understand step 2, why should I add the debian-backports repo for manual building?
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• 974[13:01:39] <ratrace> giaco: to enable newer dependencies I suppose
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• 979[13:03:38] <quadrathoch2> giaco, are you still trying to compile gstreamer?
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• 981[13:03:58] <giaco> quadrathoch2: yes
• 982[13:04:04] <quadrathoch2> ugh, okay
• 983[13:04:38] <giaco> quadrathoch2: I already have a full-testing working, but I want to try again to do things right and test manual backporting
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• 1004[13:10:48] <giaco> ratrace: the instructions provided by the bot are quite different from replaced-url
• 1005[13:10:56] <giaco> and surely more streamlined
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• 1098[14:17:35] <f8e3> i compiled latest vim from github, now can it break my system, whats the diff to the offical package?
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• 1102[14:19:32] <grzesiek11> f8e3: if you installed it into a custom prefix (/usr/local or ~/.local) you should be fine
• 1103[14:25:49] <giaco> is there an option to use all cores when apt -b sources <package>?
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• 1136[14:58:02] <layer00> Hey guys, is it possible to install debian in English but with locale and keyboard in another language?
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• 1138[14:58:53] <quadrathoch2> layer00, yes
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• 1141[14:59:43] <layer00> quadrathoch2, is there a guide or can you point me where I do that? thanks
• 1142[15:00:07] <quadrathoch2> the installer will ask you which languages you want (you can't skip it)
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• 1153[15:07:54] <giaco> quadrathoch2: I might have found that the compilation problem was due to outdated qemu on host. Now it seems compiling
• 1154[15:08:05] <f8e3> how to install checkinstall ?
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• 1156[15:08:15] <quadrathoch2> giaco, oh, yeah you were crosscompiling :/
• 1157[15:08:36] <giaco> quadrathoch2: not really cross-compiling, it's emulating target compiler
• 1158[15:08:52] <quadrathoch2> f8e3, replaced-url
• 1159[15:09:14] <quadrathoch2> giaco, i know, somehow i still call it crosscompile :/
• 1160[15:09:14] <petn-randall> f8e3: It's in buster-backports.
• 1161[15:09:58] <f8e3> deb replaced-url
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• 1163[15:11:23] <giaco> let's say that apt source <package> + cd <pkg source root> + debuild -uc -us -b works. If I have to apply it to a list of packages do I have to wrap the three steps in a bash script, or is it possible to streamline it somehow (maybe apt source <package list>)?
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• 1167[15:13:47] <linuxwerker> having issues with :ppa sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php
• 1168[15:14:02] <linuxwerker> It seem to add but I cant downloiad from it
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• 1173[15:14:48] <linuxwerker> cant find any of the pagages
• 1174[15:14:56] <quadrathoch2> linuxwerker, you don't want to add a ubuntu package, as there is a possibility to break
• 1175[15:15:20] <linuxwerker> ok I need php 7.4
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• 1177[15:16:13] <quadrathoch2> linuxwerker, then you need to switch distros
• 1178[15:16:17] <quadrathoch2> or backport php
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• 1181[15:17:19] <giaco> if only I could set the number of compile processors in "apt -b sources <packages>" I could speed up a lot
• 1182[15:17:33] <ratrace> doesn't sury have debian repos too?
• 1183[15:17:48] <linuxwerker> thanks you will change distro
• 1184[15:17:54] <quadrathoch2> giaco, sorry no idea how to parse that to apt :/
• 1185[15:18:39] <ratrace> linuxwerker: replaced-url
• 1186[15:18:45] <giaco> quadrathoch2: np, thanks
• 1187[15:19:33] <linuxwerker> thanks
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• 1190[15:20:17] <petn-randall> giaco: `apt-get source -b <package>` should work.
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• 1193[15:20:50] <randompleb> Two VMs get the same ip(10.0.2.15). Is this the default behaviour for qemu?
• 1194[15:21:07] <giaco> petn-randall: yes, but using 1 cores out of 16
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• 1199[15:22:11] <petn-randall> giaco: Try adding `-j16` to the line, I think it gets passed down to dpkg-buildpackage.
• 1200[15:22:12] <giaco> petn-randall: I could surely do for package in <package list>; do apt -b source $package; done, but that would not be as fast as an hypotetical apt -b -j 16 source $package
• 1201[15:22:41] <petn-randall> giaco: Note that not all packages can be built using all 16 cores. Many tasks are single-threaded.
• 1202[15:23:32] <giaco> petn-randall: will it fail or will it just synchronize and go slower?
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• 1206[15:25:00] <petn-randall> giaco: Will just go single-threaded for those operations.
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• 1208[15:25:32] <petn-randall> giaco: Single build steps will be single-threaded, but if you're compiling lots of e.g. C code you'll be able to use all 16 cores.
• 1209[15:25:46] <giaco> petn-randall: that would be fine, too
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• 1211[15:26:39] <giaco> what would be better, for loop over apt -b source $package, or apt -b source <list of packages>?
• 1212[15:26:59] <giaco> I forgot to add -j16
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• 1214[15:27:01] <petn-randall> If the latter works I'd do that.
• 1215[15:27:50] <giaco> petn-randall: thanks
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• 1249[15:51:43] <giaco> petn-randall: -j16 not accepted by apt E: Command line option 'j' [from -j16] is not understood in combination with the other options.
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• 1251[15:53:45] <petn-randall> giaco: Bummer. I guess you can just write a few line bash script that calls dpkg-buildpackage directly, then.
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• 1254[15:54:51] <giaco> petn-randall: yes, I'm only missing how to extract the $version to cd into $package_$version and it should be done
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• 1257[15:55:16] <giaco> but sadly I think all this has a new show stopper: E: Can not find version '1.14.4-1' of package 'gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad'
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• 1260[15:56:02] <giaco> apt build-dep gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad fails, also apt -b sources gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad
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• 1264[15:57:09] <petn-randall> giaco: Are you trying to backport gstreamer?
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• 1266[15:57:23] <petn-randall> ,checkbackport gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad
• 1267[15:57:40] <judd> Backporting package gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad in sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libsrt-dev, libgstreamer1.0-dev (>= 1.16.2), gstreamer1.0-plugins-base (>= 1.16.2), libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-dev (>= 1.16.2).
• 1268[15:57:48] <kale> does "btrfs filesystem defragment -r <path>" copy and write all files below <path>?
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• 1271[15:59:54] <giaco> petn-randall: well I'm backporting all those: libgstreamer1.0-0 gstreamer1.0-plugins-base gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly gstreamer1.0-libav gstreamer1.0-doc gstreamer1.0-tools
• 1272[16:00:26] <giaco> I've succeded with libgstreamer1.0-0
• 1273[16:00:52] <giaco> but apt build-dep gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad returns error
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• 1278[16:04:28] <petn-randall> giaco: Because you'll need to backport the dependencies, too.
• 1279[16:05:06] <petn-randall> giaco: This might be a lot more work than planned. What is your ultimate goal with the new gstreamer?
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• 1281[16:05:45] <giaco> petn-randall: use it and it's plugins to handle a multimedia pipeline
• 1282[16:06:16] <petn-randall> giaco: Is there anything you're missing from the stable version?
• 1283[16:06:47] <giaco> petn-randall: there's a bug, that has been solved in 1.16
• 1284[16:07:38] <giaco> I don't want to solve this for a single machine, I want to build deb packages for multiple machines that I control with ansible
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• 1286[16:07:52] <petn-randall> giaco: You might have more luck creating a sid chroot and running your program from there.
• 1287[16:09:28] <giaco> petn-randall: it's another possibility, yes
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• 1289[16:10:15] <giaco> but before trying that, I' not following you when you say that E: Can not find version '1.14.4-1' of package 'gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad' is due to lack of dependencies
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• 1292[16:11:21] <giaco> I'm doing apt build-dep gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad just to fetch dependencies
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• 1311[16:20:12] <petn-randall> giaco: Can you paste the complete output, including the command you're running, to replaced-url
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• 1314[16:21:47] <giaco> petn-randall: maybe I got the answer myself, but first I need to understand whan happends when I do apt build-dep when I have multiple deb-src (eg stable+testing)
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• 1324[16:23:07] <th_> hey doods, whats uname -p show?
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• 1327[16:24:26] <petn-randall> th_: It prints the gcc processor type, which is only relevant for historical reasons. It prints "unknown" on all Linux systems.
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• 1331[16:25:17] <th_> forever unknown
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• 1333[16:26:33] <giaco> on my ubuntu box prints x86_64
• 1334[16:26:36] <petn-randall> heh :)
• 1335[16:27:00] <petn-randall> giaco: Interesting, does `uname -m` print the same?
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• 1342[16:31:19] <giaco> petn-randall: yep
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• 1350[16:36:43] <giaco> I still have to get answer to 2 question: how multiple deb-src are handled when apt source is called, why when I only have 1 deb-sec for $version+1 and I apt build-dep gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad it complains about missing deb-src for $version
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• 1353[16:37:39] <giaco> does it mean that gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad is not present in deb-src in bullseye?
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• 1355[16:39:32] <quadrathoch2> giaco, it is there, but could you give the exact error you got?
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• 1359[16:43:23] <giaco> quadrathoch2: as soon as I finish building the current package (I forgot to enter tmux :-/ in nspawn env). Im building gstreamer packages in dependency order
• 1360[16:44:07] <quadrathoch2> giaco, kk :)
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• 1362[16:44:25] <giaco> summoning apt -b source A B C didn't work, as C requires A B debs installed
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• 1377[16:56:45] <f0x2> my debian vps at hetzner lost it's ipv6 connection after an upgrade, and ipv4 requires a regular 'dhclient eth0' to stay online. What's the best way to diagnose this?
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• 1381[16:57:24] <ratrace> f0x2: why use dhcp though? you're assigned a static IP
• 1382[16:57:58] <ratrace> as for this particular problem, how is your network set up? with interfaces(5) or systemd-networkd? or something else?
• 1383[16:58:05] <f0x2> a dhclient systemd timer was the quickest way to get things semi-working
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• 1387[16:59:00] <f0x2> ratrace: interfaces, with a config from hetzner's cloud-init I think
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• 1389[16:59:29] <f0x2> replaced-url
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• 1396[17:01:21] <ratrace> f0x2: why are you aliasing eth0 for ipv6? really just set up a regular static inet and inet6 stanza for the same "eth0", see here for more info: replaced-url
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• 1399[17:02:30] <f0x2> ratrace: that's the default for hetzner's debian image, only line I possibly added (for wireguard?) is the pre-up route
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• 1407[17:08:33] <quadrathoch2> giaco, at what package are you stuck now?
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• 1414[17:15:09] <giaco> quadrathoch2: see the list here? replaced-url
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• 1416[17:16:01] <quadrathoch2> giaco, then you are further than I am, as I thought, I could also learn something from compiling a bigger package :)
• 1417[17:16:25] <quadrathoch2> giaco, still figuring out the deps for libgstreamer1.0-0
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• 1420[17:17:39] <giaco> quadrathoch2: I just enabled bullseye deb-src, apt build-dep libgstreamer1.0-0, apt sources libgstreamer1.0-0, cd into source root, debuild -us -uc -b
• 1421[17:18:04] <quadrathoch2> giaco, I am trying to do that with sid
• 1422[17:18:13] <zelda00> hi all debian users
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• 1426[17:19:00] <quadrathoch2> ahh finally compiling libgst1.0 :)
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• 1430[17:20:58] <giaco> mine is stuck at "FAIL: libs/gstglheaders" while testing builded plugins in gstreamer1.0-plugins-base
• 1431[17:21:30] <giaco> I'm feeling like giving up this recompile thing and go full testing, or arch, or alpine
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• 1433[17:22:19] <giaco> "I tried to be stable, but I failed"
• 1434[17:22:27] <quadrathoch2> honestly if you stop the compile, I would switch than going testing, giaco
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• 1436[17:23:13] <giaco> oh wait, it just unstuck now
• 1437[17:23:18] <giaco> it has been there for 30 minutes
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• 1439[17:23:54] <quadrathoch2> giaco, it's always the same xD
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• 1443[17:26:06] <salkin> hi everyone. You know how i could install meson 0.53.1 in apt? the latest buster dist package seems to be 0.49.something (not updated to the latest meson) which is not high enough to install newest wlroots and sway -> sorry if obvious noob tendencies are present :) tried to install meson via pip and add the pip installed version to my $PATH (also uninstalled the apt meson) but I am getting this: from mesonbuild.mesonmain import main
• 1444[17:26:06] <salkin> ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'mesonbuild.mesonmain' FAILED: meson-install /home/salkin/.local/bin/meson install --no-rebuild ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed. . . Therefore I am thinking everything would just be easier if newest meson was installed as an apt package. Thank you
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• 1447[17:26:44] <giaco> salkin: pip3 ?
• 1448[17:26:56] <salkin> yepp
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• 1451[17:28:27] <giaco> salkin: have you tried in a virtualenv?
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• 1455[17:29:42] <salkin> no this i have not. but i understand that a virtualenv would make my life easier in generel. :) but havent tried it before
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• 1457[17:30:31] <salkin> maybe i just have to up the build and python skills a bit ans start understanding virtualenvs
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• 1461[17:32:30] <giaco> salkin: each virtualenv is an indipendent set of pip installed packages
• 1462[17:33:00] <salkin> would love to be able to use newest meson without adding the extra layer of virtualenv though. I will dig deeper and return if all hope is lost :)
• 1463[17:33:43] <giaco> quadrathoch2: finished!
• 1464[17:33:45] <salkin> thanks giaco. i am going virtualenv then. sounds like the thing you need when apt packages are a bit slow to update.
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• 1467[17:37:02] <giaco> quadrathoch2: here's the error I get when I try to build-dep the whole list of packages replaced-url
• 1468[17:37:14] <giaco> but the error is caused by gst-plugins-bad
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• 1471[17:37:42] <giaco> please mind that this is when I nly have testing deb-src, if I enable stable deb-src that would disappear
• 1472[17:37:50] <giaco> but I don't know what's going on
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• 1478[17:40:45] <goldfish> / help connect
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• 1481[17:42:17] <giaco> quadrathoch2: another show stopper, build-dep is not getting all the required dependencies. Here what I get when I begin the next step for gst-plugins-good: replaced-url
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• 1492[17:46:27] <ganeshix> how to list all installed manual packages that are graphical?
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• 1494[17:47:49] <giaco> quadrathoch2: I give up, I move into any strategy that would not require gstreamer compilation of any kind
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• 1500[17:51:46] <petn-randall> ganeshix: You could probably search it via aptitude like this `aptitude search '!~M~i tag(<tag goes here>)`.
• 1501[17:52:46] <petn-randall> ganeshix: replaced-url
• 1502[17:54:29] <ganeshix> polyphem, thanks a lot, looking at it right now :)
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• 1508[17:58:19] <krumelmonster> Hi. Unattended upgrades (and others) send me mail from "root@localhost" and I had to configure my spam filter to accept them. Instead I'd like to relay all mail from root through a mailbox from an ordinary external email provider (e.g receive such mails from amailaddressofmine@gmail.com). I'm kind of confused about terminology (Satellite, Smart Host) and the guides I looked at by now fail to precisely explain what their purpose is
• 1509[17:58:20] <krumelmonster> ample: replaced-url
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• 1513[18:02:08] <petn-randall> krumelmonster: If the MTA on that system is only used to send mails out from e.g. unattended-upgrades or cron, you probably want to use nullmailer. It's extremely easy to configure.
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• 1515[18:03:19] <krumelmonster> "Nullmailer + This Doc = Success" Sound promising. Thank you, I'll look into it ;)
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• 1521[18:08:24] <quadrathoch2> giaco, any way I can help you figure out in which direction you wanna go?
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• 1524[18:11:51] <giaco> quadrathoch2: actually I want to re-try the paths after upgrading qemu: gst-build or cerbero. This whould compile it without debian tools, but let's see
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• 1527[18:12:30] <quadrathoch2> giaco, nice :) i am right now at compiling gstreamer1.0-0, so let's see where it ends :)
• 1528[18:12:46] <giaco> quadrathoch2: in the meantime I'm looking for a stable alternative
• 1529[18:13:18] <giaco> quadrathoch2: archlinux arm doesn't smell like something I should put a server on
• 1530[18:13:24] <quadrathoch2> giaco, honestly out of the 3 i would recommend alpine
• 1531[18:13:32] <giaco> quadrathoch2: exactly
• 1532[18:13:33] <quadrathoch2> and it's fun to tinker with, as they use musl
• 1533[18:14:03] <giaco> quadrathoch2: as long as it has gstreamer 1.16, I can compile what I need
• 1534[18:14:21] <quadrathoch2> giaco, lol :)
• 1535[18:14:45] <quadrathoch2> so see you in #alpine-linux then :p
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• 1544[18:23:59] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> So, installing open-iscsi causes attempts to get a DHCP-address during boot. How do I disable that?
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• 1554[18:29:09] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Seems like disabling open-iscsi.service and running $(dpkg-reconfigure) on my kernel was enough.
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• 1558[18:30:41] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Hm, re-enabling it doesn't seem to cause the issue again.
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• 1560[18:31:25] <Aurora_iz_kosmos> Could my init have been somehow corrupted?
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• 1563[18:34:59] <giaco> quadrathoch2: in the meantime I'm at 15% of whole gst_build system compilation (@12 cores with ninja)
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• 1565[18:35:30] <quadrathoch2> giaco, well how high is the chance of getting the compilation done? &&
• 1566[18:35:31] <quadrathoch2> ^^
• 1567[18:36:33] <giaco> quadrathoch2: I only know that some guy had success in compiling this on real arm (taking many many hours). No more than that
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• 1569[18:36:47] <giaco> but this would not produce debs, so I need to find a way to move it to device
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• 1579[18:41:40] <quadrathoch2> giaco, oO why wouldn't it produce debs?
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• 1624[19:08:14] <giaco> quadrathoch2: it is made for development usage. You can install, yes, but I don't know is meson is made to pack debs: replaced-url
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• 1626[19:08:44] <giaco> quadrathoch2: btw I'm at [2791/5662]
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• 1668[19:44:52] <quadrathoch2> giaco, gogogo :)
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• 1672[19:46:36] <giaco> quadrathoch2: [4767/5662]
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• 1698[20:04:02] <giaco> quadrathoch2: success
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• 1701[20:10:18] <quadrathoch2> giaco, did you already test if it works?
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• 1726[20:21:24] <giaco> quadrathoch2: running test now
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• 1728[20:22:43] <giaco> quadrathoch2: I'm also re-running gst-build after apt build-dep with buster deb-src
• 1729[20:23:20] <quadrathoch2> giaco, don't you mean bullseye?
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• 1732[20:25:12] * cheapie considers burning a full Debian disc set of some sort again, for no real reason
• 1733[20:25:50] <cheapie> I think it was back in the 8.x days that I made a full CD set, and even then it was almost 100 CDs.
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• 1735[20:26:21] <quadrathoch2> cheapie, that's alot of burning
• 1736[20:26:29] <cheapie> It was :P
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• 1759[20:37:54] <giaco> quadrathoch2: no, afaik apt build-dep installs build dependencies by looking at corresponding src package, so to build-install buster packages you need buster deb-src. You would need bullseye deb-src if you want to pull bullseye src and compile (backport)
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• 1768[20:39:26] <giaco> quadrathoch2: I confirm that after "apt build-dep libgstreamer1.0-0 gstreamer1.0-plugins-base gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly gstreamer1.0-libav gstreamer1.0-doc gstreamer1.0-tools" and re-running gst-build configure and compile, things to compile went from 5600 to 4000
• 1769[20:40:03] <giaco> meson test -C build went quite good: OK 499, FAIL 48
• 1770[20:40:05] <quadrathoch2> giaco, great :) still trying to figure out my compile error, but it needs to wait
• 1771[20:40:29] <giaco> I'll rerun test after this second run of gst-build finishes
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• 1819[21:14:39] <mulletman> is there any reason why I should not be able to connect to a samba share via terminal if i can connect via nautilus? (asides from the obvious, i am typing something wrong)
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• 1822[21:16:10] <mulletman> I have tried mounting cifs smbfs etc and cant seem to connect?
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• 1824[21:17:14] <n_1-c_k> mulletman, long time since I messed with samba but to your first q. I'd say no. Try smbclient, might give clues.
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• 1828[21:18:45] <mulletman> n_1-c_k, will give a try, how do you connect to other boxes on your network?
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• 1830[21:18:57] <diigitae> bonsoir j'ai une question part rapport au formatage de clef usb ou il y a une iso
• 1831[21:19:01] <mulletman> (I'm open to trying something else)
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• 1835[21:21:56] <n_1-c_k> nmulletman, ssh and sshfs.
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• 1839[21:24:00] <n_1-c_k> (oops) mulletman, ssh and sshfs.
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• 1850[21:30:22] <mulletman> n_1-c_k, ah thanks. yeah sshfs connects just fine, but when transfering files it is like 3x slower than something unencrypted (i compared it to ftp) so am trying to find a way to mount it where file transfer is faster
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• 1895[22:07:46] <justahug__> Hi guys :)
• 1896[22:08:02] <petn-randall> hi justahug__
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• 1902[22:10:25] <justahug__> I just wanted to know : is there a repository for the latest firefox release ? I'm currently using Firefox-ESR which is installed by default but since a few time I have problems playing videos and sound so..
• 1903[22:10:48] <annadane> no, but you can always download it from mozilla's site
• 1904[22:11:00] <petn-randall> justahug__: What erros do you get?
• 1905[22:11:11] <petn-randall> *errors
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• 1907[22:11:42] <justahug__> Yeah that's what I did but I have to launch it from the folder each time and I can't "attach" it in my menu in Gnome SHELL
• 1908[22:12:08] <justahug__> petn-randall, the sound is deep, very deep, like if there's a person talking in a video, it sounds like a monster
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• 1915[22:16:51] <WoC> Anyone got a working example of a vmdebootstrap command line ?
• 1916[22:17:20] <WoC> Before you say man page, no, not working
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• 1923[22:21:41] <petn-randall> justahug__: And you only get that in firefox? Do other audio programs work fine?
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• 1931[22:28:52] <justahug__> Yep they work fine, it happens only with a few youtube videos and also with Dailymotion videos
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• 1933[22:29:53] <petn-randall> Weird, I never heard of this issue. Is the issue reproducible on certain videos? If yes, does it also happen in chromium?
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• 1945[22:40:30] <justahug__> It doesn't happens in Chromium I think
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• 1950[22:43:17] <justahug__> I'm using Firefox ESR 68.4.1 with an up to date system, it happens to me on all dailymotion videos for example
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• 1962[22:52:59] <Akuw_> hi, is there any Step Recorder app like on Debian ?
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• 1964[22:53:34] <Akuw_> reason: my teacher sent me a home work but requerinments says only can use Step Recorder
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• 1966[22:54:42] <annadane> apt install get-some-exercise-you-stupid-computer-dwelling-nerd
• 1967[22:54:57] <petn-randall> Akuw_: What is a step recorder?
• 1968[22:55:58] <annadane> i assume like, a step counter, for walking, hence my joke
• 1969[22:56:14] <annadane> though that's also maybe a bit of an assumptio
• 1970[22:56:15] <annadane> n
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• 1983[23:01:39] <Akuw_> replaced-url
• 1984[23:01:57] <Akuw_> but i told teacher i don't use windows
• 1985[23:02:04] <Akuw_> but he loves windows, damm
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• 1987[23:02:18] <WoC> As do I, X Windows :)
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• 1992[23:05:18] <Akuw_> WoC: the thing is i have to deliver home work as per his requeriments
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• 1994[23:06:01] <annadane> oh
• 1995[23:06:11] <annadane> i wonder if xdotool can do similar
• 1996[23:06:30] <annadane> iirc it has a lot of functionality
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• 1999[23:07:06] <Akuw_> i will send as PDF is the same thing
• 2000[23:07:22] <Akuw_> Step Recorder only saves images as a some kind of html
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• 2006[23:12:00] <ratrace> WoC: first question that comes to mind is "define not working"
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