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1[00:00:15] <nvz> carlino3: do you need assistance with backporting the lib from testing/unstable to stable? it should be rather trivial and I could tell you how to do that
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3[00:00:33] <nvz> though you probably know enough to hack it in dirty :P
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5[00:00:49] <nvz> but I could show you the Debian Way(tm)
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7[00:01:31] <carlino3> i suppose that i want to add the unstable repo to my sources.list file and update, right?
8[00:01:38] <nvz> carlino3: nope
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10[00:01:47] <carlino3> tell me
11[00:01:51] <nvz> carlino3: and if you think it may be a security issue you'd report it to OUR bts..
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13[00:02:02] <nvz> !ssb
14[00:02:02] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
15[00:02:34] <nvz> carlino3: you only want a deb-src line, so it wont actually pull binaries from sid, just the source.. apt will do all the building and packaging for you as described above ^
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17[00:02:51] <nvz> carlino3: there are no backports already available for this, so you can skip checking backports, judd would've listed it if there were
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21[00:03:56] <nvz> carlino3: doing the SSB, makes it build the newer source against the dependencies in stable, and will cause less trouble and chance of breakages in your stable debian boxes
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24[00:04:57] <carlino3> oh i see now
25[00:05:01] <carlino3> it is rebuilding the library
26[00:05:26] <carlino3> ! deb-src sid
27[00:05:26] <dpkg> You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src replaced-url
28[00:05:31] <nvz> carlino3: yes and making you a stable-friendly deb package for it you can install on stable systems you'll use in production with less worry of breakage
29[00:06:16] <carlino3> so i guess this should be reported to debian package mantainers so they can replace the buggy package right?
30[00:06:33] <nvz> carlino3: and as I said before if this sid version doesnt have the issue than it'd seem upstream fixed it already.. debian devs wouldnt be concerned with the stable issue unless it may be a security flaw.. in which case you'd wanna file a bug on our bts against that stable package and perhaps include your test code..
31[00:08:57] <carlino3> as i said i don't think this represents a security flaw even if it is exploitable in some way, but i will report anyway just in case. in the worst case i will be ignored :P
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34[00:10:23] <nvz> carlino3: one of debian's priorities as outlined in the social contract is providing a stable os.. and to do so we don't change stuff once its gone stable unless it concerns one of our other priorities.. like security.. so chances are unless its a serious issue that has security implications, the DDs wont do anything as long as its fixed in testing/unstable other than wait to release Debian 11 with the newer
35[00:10:29] <nvz> version
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39[00:12:53] <carlino3> nvz: well, it can cause trouble to people writing long lines in programs using this lib
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43[00:14:47] <nvz> carlino3: well, wouldnt hurt to file the bug.. and you already got a test case that makes it easily demonstratable
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47[00:18:12] <nvz> carlino3: all you gotta do is email to submit@bugs.debian.org with the first two lines being "Package: libedit2" and "Version: 3.1-20181209-1" and explain the issue, that it occurs on Buster/Stable and not on Sid/Unstable and perhaps include your test code
48[00:18:42] * annadane chains nvz to a reportbug console and forces him to use it
49[00:18:43] <nvz> carlino3: you don't quote the control strings as I did.. I just did that to illustrate verbatim what the first two lines of the email should be
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52[00:21:01] <annadane> in all seriousness that does look simpler than reportbug
53[00:21:34] <nvz> it is. and the Package/Version lines are really all thats required for control purposes.. but doesnt hurt to learn other headers
54[00:21:40] <abrotman> reportbug is easy ..
55[00:21:55] <nvz> reportbug is useless :P
56[00:21:59] <carlino3> nvz: so yes, looks like fixed by libedit2_3.1-20191231-1_amd64.deb package
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58[00:22:04] <abrotman> nvz: maybe you should use windows
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60[00:22:38] <nvz> it does little other than very little preliminary info iirc and present you with a template that could've just as easily been the only file in the reportbug package.. a simple text template..
61[00:22:48] <nvz> and then you gotta go through annoying config to actually get the bug sent
62[00:23:01] <nvz> when its much easier to just use whatever email method you already have and submit it manually :P
63[00:23:31] <nvz> reportbug is like an idea that was never fleshed out
64[00:23:38] <abrotman> and reviewing existing bugs, and text (your email could be html-only) ...
65[00:23:46] <abrotman> Don't be a lazy PITA
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68[00:26:05] <carlino3> nvz: all you gotta do is email to submit@bugs.debian.org with the first two lines being "Package: libedit2" and "Version: 3.1-20181209-1" and explain the issue
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70[00:26:20] <carlino3> does it needs to match that format? is parsed by some software?
71[00:26:26] <abrotman> carlino3: did you look to see if the bug already exists?
72[00:26:31] <carlino3> or was just a recommendation
73[00:26:40] <carlino3> abrotman: yes, i did
74[00:27:05] <carlino3> i couldn't find anything
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78[00:28:51] <nvz> carlino3: yes its parsed by the bts.. you can read more about submitting bugs a bugs.debian.org of course.. but really those two fields are required to properly identify the package and version
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80[00:29:22] <nvz> there are plenty of other header fields you can use.. but I usually just leave all that up to the maintainer to fill in
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85[00:29:56] <abrotman> how nice of you ...
86[00:30:24] <nvz> yeah well they know the package better than I do, and I'm not a developer.. what I call a severe bug, they may disagree and change it anyhow
87[00:30:33] <nvz> I only specify the stuff thats not up for debate :P
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96[00:45:38] <carlino3> nvz: done, thanks for cooperate :)
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102[00:55:03] <nvz> no problem.
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109[01:04:07] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey guys.
110[01:04:33] <Eryn_1983_FL> so im trying to find what function of awk, i can use to search the output of a command, like grep,
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112[01:04:47] <Eryn_1983_FL> i head it could do that or am I mistaken? i'd rather use all one program.
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114[01:05:50] <carlino3> search?
115[01:07:06] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok
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117[01:07:42] <Eryn_1983_FL> derp me
118[01:07:44] <Eryn_1983_FL> # awk '/localhost/{print}' /etc/hosts
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120[01:11:57] <rgwu> Slightly cleaner: awk '/localhost/' /etc/hosts
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124[01:15:12] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok
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155[01:39:05] <cyberbootje> Hi all, i'm having an interesting issue with my touchscreen laptop. The touchscreen is not working when booted but if i suspend the laptop (or does it automatically) and awake it again the touchscreen does work. Any clue how to fix this?
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164[02:02:55] <search_social> cyberbootje: touchpad="DELL0978:00 04F3:30C3 Touchpad"
165[02:02:56] <search_social> setting="libinput Disable While Typing Enabled"
166[02:02:56] <search_social> xinput --set-prop "$touchpad" "$setting" 0
167[02:03:16] <search_social> this isn't your issue but you might be able to edit it to yours
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172[02:06:30] <cyberbootje> search_social: where do i edit that ?
173[02:06:57] <cyberbootje> funny, what i have is a dell laptop
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181[02:21:18] <search_social> cyberbootje: well on the command line if you type xinput you should see a list of devices and hopefully something looks like a touchscreen there
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184[02:23:08] <cyberbootje> yeah tried that, says i'm using Xwaylands
185[02:23:12] <cyberbootje> Xwayland*
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187[02:23:42] <search_social> well on my computer xinput lists 6 devices under "virtual core pointer" and 9 devices under "virtual core keyboard"
188[02:24:01] <cyberbootje> it's so weird.... installed a eGTouch driver and that works fine but pounces one cpu core at 100%
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190[02:24:11] <search_social> one of my devices was the touchpad and doing xinput --list-props DEVICE on that gave settings i needed
191[02:24:20] <search_social> where was the driver from
192[02:24:31] <cyberbootje> eGTouch
193[02:24:34] <search_social> also what kernel are you running? a lot of weird issues were solved from me upgrading the default kernel 4 to kernel 5
194[02:24:53] <cyberbootje> 5.6
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196[02:25:49] <search_social> wait so with egtouch it works but pegs a cpu and without egtouch it only works after suspend?
197[02:26:00] <cyberbootje> correct!
198[02:26:27] <cyberbootje> the eGTouch is also a service, kill the service the touch will also stop working
199[02:26:44] <search_social> well when you type xinput does it give you a bunch of virtual core pointers or does it just give one line saying xwayland?
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201[02:27:12] <cyberbootje> one virtual core and 2 Xwayland
202[02:28:33] <search_social> replaced-url
203[02:28:51] <search_social> if you can't find your touch screen in the xinput list that's about the end of me personal experience
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206[02:29:26] <cyberbootje> hmm no i don't have the touchpad one
207[02:29:43] <search_social> no i mean do you have a touch screen there
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209[02:30:37] <cyberbootje> yes i do but it's not showing up in the list like what you just posted
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211[02:32:01] <search_social> well i won't be any help then i would try #wayland then
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214[02:33:01] <cyberbootje> thx!
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245[03:15:21] <LCRERGO> Is there a recommended place where I should put backups?
246[03:16:04] <Clock> On a flash drive LCRERGO
247[03:16:33] * dvs feels an argument coming on...
248[03:16:43] <EdePopede> HDD vs flash?
249[03:16:50] <dvs> yup
250[03:17:10] <LCRERGO> I mean inside the filesystem root
251[03:17:11] <EdePopede> i had issues with both of them already, so... ;)
252[03:17:28] <dvs> LCRERGO, that I wouldn't recommend.
253[03:17:29] <LCRERGO> /var/backups or /backups
254[03:17:33] <EdePopede> no
255[03:17:40] <EdePopede> don't add directories at will
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257[03:18:00] <EdePopede> your $HOME and /usr/local are up to you respectively the admin
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259[03:18:36] <EdePopede> also /opt iirc though i didn't use it in years (not sure about the recent standard)
260[03:19:11] <rwp> Backups should always follow the 3-2-1-Rule. At least 3 copies, on 2 different mediums, with at least 1 offsite
261[03:19:17] <EdePopede> and besides that a crashing disk killing your HOME would also kill your backup
262[03:20:07] <EdePopede> it still would help against rm accidents
263[03:21:34] <LCRERGO> I understand thx..
264[03:21:39] <EdePopede> rwp: would another machine in the same LAN be considered offsite?
265[03:21:56] <rwp> Normally not because it fails the house fire test.
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268[03:22:54] <EdePopede> so FTP ;)
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270[03:23:28] <rwp> There are dozens of backup utilities available. Some of them are even good! :-)
271[03:24:25] <EdePopede> i bought a 128GB flash drive last years for i think 10€. money shouldn't be an issue in most cases as long as it's not hires video
272[03:24:56] <EdePopede> though i'm not sure about the quality of drives in that price region. different technologies.
273[03:25:24] <EdePopede> rwp: no, i was referring to that old "Backups are for whimps" quote
274[03:25:28] <rwp> It's a "Market for lemons" in that low price range. Quality is a random impossible to know quality.
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276[03:25:34] <rwp>
277[03:26:02] <EdePopede> i have some drives looking the same, checked them out. PCI-IDs. well. NOT all the same :)
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279[03:27:02] <rwp> Feel free to call me wimpy but when editing files I save at every pause because I remember the days when a crash might happen at literally any time. And often did.
280[03:27:30] <rwp> I always use RAID even on my desktop because I hate it when a single storage device fails and then I need to recover.
281[03:27:32] <EdePopede> tbh i just bought that specific one just because. held its data so far and i don't plan to place the secret key to world domination of it. should it stop working, it wouldn't really be a problem.
282[03:28:13] <EdePopede> “Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it.” — Linus Torvalds
283[03:28:14] <rwp> I put things into version control. Push the version history to a different system. Backup both systems.
284[03:28:15] <EdePopede> that one ;)
285[03:28:35] <rwp> Yes. It is a good comment.
286[03:29:04] <EdePopede> the only problem with raid being that it doubles the costs at least *sigh*
287[03:29:20] <rwp> And I have on multiple occasions searched for information on something that I could not remember and found my own mailing list postings with the information I needed. :-)
288[03:29:36] <EdePopede> heh
289[03:29:49] <rwp> RAID is a cost multiplier. But as you noted the cost for storage these days can be very affordable.
290[03:30:00] <rwp> And what we are saving is our own time to deal with an unexpected crash.
291[03:30:21] <rwp> With RAID I can calmly swap the failed device at a time of my convenience.
292[03:30:36] <rwp> So I am paying that extra 10€ for an increase in my convenience.
293[03:31:01] <EdePopede> 10€? you're talking about flash drives again, not RAID, right?
294[03:31:40] <rwp> Haha. I actually only said 10€ because you had mentined it for a 128GB flash drive. For me it would be $45USD for a 1TB spinning disk.
295[03:33:28] <EdePopede> ah ok. i bought some 4TB over the last years, they had the best price per unit of all ;)
296[03:33:51] <rwp> My main house home homebuilt NAS server has 6x 3TB drives in it at this time. 3 and 4 TB drives are still the knee of the cost-storage curve right now.
297[03:34:18] <EdePopede> iirc the 32GB i had bought before (no idea how much before) wasn't cheaper than the 1328.
298[03:34:45] <EdePopede> for some time they had the 8TB, but now it's up agian
299[03:35:10] <brachamh_> ok this is weird...i just installed debian on a drive to throw into my server...and tried using sudo only to have it say command not found
300[03:35:19] <rwp> A few years ago I ordered a 60TB SSD and the vendor shipped it and included a 30TB SSD free of cost just to empty their inventory.
301[03:35:28] <brachamh_> i'm fairly new to debian, but i swear i didn't have to add that last time
302[03:35:36] <dvs> brachamh_, sudo is not installed by default
303[03:35:45] <EdePopede> 60TB? wait... SIX-TY?!?
304[03:35:47] <brachamh_> ok. so i just have to install it?
305[03:36:00] <dvs> brachamh_, yes
306[03:36:03] <rwp> brachamh_, In the installer the sudo package is installed only if you do not pick a root password.
307[03:36:13] <brachamh_> oh!
308[03:36:14] <brachamh_> ok
309[03:36:18] <rwp> If you only pick a user password and not a root password then the installer knows you need sudo for it.
310[03:36:24] <rwp> But if you pick a root password then it does not.
311[03:37:02] <rwp> That way the installer can cater to people who want the no-root-pass+sudo by default and those who want root+pass and do whatever later by default. Both.
312[03:37:26] <rwp> EdePopede, It was a few years ago.
313[03:37:47] <brachamh_> right, that makes sense. i started with ubuntu so i got used to everything right away.
314[03:38:12] <rwp> And if you install it like with Ubuntu without a root password then you end up with sudo just like in Ubuntu.
315[03:38:32] <brachamh_> ubuntu doesn't ask for a root password by default
316[03:38:58] <rwp> And the form page dialog box does describe this feature. But as you become experienced installing using it then one can fly by answering questions and hitting enter without reading the details each and every time.
317[03:39:37] <rwp> I think Ubuntu does not provide the option at install time for a root password and therefore only provides the no-root-pass+sudo scenario only.
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319[03:39:45] <brachamh_> yes
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321[03:40:07] <brachamh_> ubuntu caters to less techy users
322[03:40:36] <rwp> It's a small example where Debian was at the time The Universal Operating System and provided for different use cases whereas Ubuntu was opinionated software and did not.
323[03:41:03] <rwp> Alas Debian is now opinionated software too and has removed many useful different use cases.
324[03:41:50] <brachamh_> and now i need to set up the network card in this computer
325[03:42:06] <dvs> WiFi?
326[03:42:11] <alexrelis[m]> rwp: What use cases specifically has Debian removed?
327[03:43:42] <brachamh_> no but i installed debian (no DE) on this drive in a different computer, put the drive in my server, and so it's set up for the wrong network card
328[03:44:26] <dvs> brachamh_, it still might show up
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333[03:50:35] <brachamh_> it's showing up, i think, but it's not active/connected
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335[03:51:05] <dvs> brachamh_, probably because the device name is different.
336[03:54:11] <brachamh_> heh, i got a bunch of learning to do. i had set up ubuntu server on my server, and am wanting to switch to debian
337[03:54:35] <brachamh_> but commands that i'm used to just being there, well, aren't there
338[03:54:36] <rwp> alexrelis[m], I would prefer not to say. The discussions never go calmly. I would get shouted down. There would be bans.
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341[03:55:10] <rwp> brachamh_, Such as? Usually it is a simple thing to install what is needed.
342[03:55:27] <rwp> I usually just operate the system and then install what I need as I run into needing them.
343[03:55:41] <rwp> That way fresh servers don't have more accumulated cruft than they need.
344[03:55:54] <brachamh_> right, that makes sense, i'm just not used to it. partially because i had installed everything i needed a while ago lol
345[03:56:11] <brachamh_> i'm used to lshw to list the hardware
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348[03:56:41] <rwp> If you install new systems three times in a row then you will want to start using a system configurator tool such as puppet, chef, ansible, salt, other.
349[03:57:06] <rwp> "apt-get install lshw"
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351[04:00:34] <brachamh_> rwp, thanks. that's good to know about the sysconfig tools
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354[04:04:03] <brachamh_> hard to install anything when you're not online though lol
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356[04:06:41] <brachamh_> yes the wrong device was listed...changed that, now rebooting
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369[04:36:46] <brachamh_> hmm...i can't get dd to copy my server OS drive
370[04:37:56] <sponix> brachamh_: I have had good luck with "clonezilla" in the past
371[04:39:15] <brachamh_> it has cli edition?
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373[04:40:13] <sponix> brachamh_: to my knowledge it is always ncurses ( text based menu system )
374[04:40:15] <brachamh_> it seems it does
375[04:41:56] <brachamh_> ah i don't have any blank cd's, and this server system seems to not want to boot from usb anymore
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377[04:43:13] <rwp> brachamh_, What do you mean, "can't get dd to copy my server OS drive". What problems are you having?
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379[04:44:19] <brachamh_> rwp it errors out with read errors
380[04:45:01] <TESTED123> hey ...coded a cool program in c...replaced-url
381[04:45:22] <rwp> brachamh_, Read errors would be a drive problem not a dd problem.
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384[04:46:16] <rwp> What does SMART say for your drives? "smartctl -a /dev/sda" (apt-get install smartmontools)
385[04:46:20] <JordiGH> Hm, is there no firefox-esr-dbgsym that matches the current version in debian-proposed-updates?
386[04:46:36] <JordiGH> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
387[04:46:36] <JordiGH> firefox-esr-dbgsym : Depends: firefox-esr (= 68.9.0esr-1~deb10u1) but 68.10.0esr-1~deb10u1 is to be installed
388[04:46:37] <JordiGH> Eh?
389[04:46:37] <brachamh_> rwp i checked that yesterday and it's fine
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392[04:47:14] <sponix> brachamh_: It works off a USB Stick just fine. In fact I normally use use a regular Linux Live USB, and apt to pull it down for use into the live session. Only issue I have had with that is I had to do like partclone or a few deps it has manually because the package manager didn't do them correctly for me
393[04:47:14] <rwp> brachamh_, I also suggest running short and long self-tests ("smartctl -t short /dev/sda ; sleep 120 ; smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda")
394[04:47:17] <JordiGH> just gimme debug syms dammit
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396[04:48:07] <rwp> Additionally for a disk drive one does not need to use 'dd' and 'cat' or 'cp' can do the job too.
397[04:49:05] <brachamh_> yesterday i thought the read errors were because i'd left the read drive mounted, apparently not. i'm wanting to clone the drive so i can keep the system running from the clone while i switch from ubuntu to debian on the current OS drive
398[04:49:32] <brachamh_> cp won't do a proper clone, IIRC. does cat?
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400[04:50:27] <kreyren> kreyren@leonid:~$ DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
401[04:50:27] <kreyren> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000 (SNB GT2)
402[04:50:32] <kreyren> what am i doing wrong? o.o
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409[04:59:16] <brachamh_> rwp, i just started a short self-test
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411[04:59:42] <brachamh_> when it's done does it show the results?
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418[05:12:59] <brachamh_> ok so after the short test it's showing read errors
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420[05:13:51] <brachamh_> so i guess i should be replacing it, not trying to replace the OS on it
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422[05:15:09] <sponix> Yeah, errors are bad
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425[05:17:55] <brachamh_> i'll put the new drive back in the other computer and set it all up in there. while that's working i'll copy all the personal stuff on the failing drive to another drive
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431[05:24:05] <brachamh_> fun stuff. at least i caught it before the drive failed...and hopefully can get everything off of it and the next drive ready before it does fail. thanks rwp
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434[05:26:53] <dvs> This is why I like HDDs: you usually see it coming.
435[05:27:41] <sponix> brachamh_: this a spinning drive failing or an ssd ?
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437[05:33:12] <brachamh_> spinning
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440[05:33:55] <sponix> brachamh_: thought it might be since the read errors. Normally ssd the writes error out 1st, and sometimes long before anything else. From what I hear
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442[05:36:14] <brachamh_> ah ok. yeah the first couple drives in this thing are drives that were given to me, so i'm not surprised, as this one is a 250GB that is probably nowhere near new
443[05:37:09] <dvs> 250GB? They don't even make those HDDs anymore
444[05:38:04] <brachamh_> exactly. i told a friend i wanted to put a home server together, and he gave me a bunch of stuff that he had sitting around from an old project of his lol
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446[05:38:10] <brachamh_> i'm slowly upgrading
447[05:38:14] <sponix> I just retired 5 x 1TB WD Greens from 2009 - Recently... Hated to do it because they all still worked perfectly. But I needed the bays to have higher density than that these days
448[05:38:37] <sponix> brachamh_: well, if it was given to you. Can't complain too much about free stuff :P
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450[05:38:57] <dvs> sponix, that's exactly what I did recently with my 2GB WD Reds
451[05:39:23] <dvs> I mean 2TB
452[05:39:37] <sponix> I was like ... I retired my 2GB Thumb drives years ago :)
453[05:39:50] <dvs> heh
454[05:40:31] <dvs> Yeah, now the smallest thumb drives I can find now are 8GB
455[05:41:56] <sponix> dvs: I have some around here in a case that are like 256MB lol
456[05:42:13] <dvs> d'oh!
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463[05:55:22] <brachamh_> so, installing debian as a server...how many system partitions are recommended?
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465[05:58:00] <brachamh_> ok so there's an option for seperate home, var, and tmp partitions
466[05:58:52] <sponix> brachamh_: I like to be able to carry /home from one install to the next saving having to redo most of my user preferences. So I split that off
467[05:59:08] <sponix> brachamh_: doing regular backups of /home would prevent the need for that, but I am lazy
468[06:00:08] <sponix> only reason to split off /tmp or /var is if you are afraid of them getting FULL and it impacting your / grinding the system to a halt. OR /var if you want to carry over db or web stuff from install to install
469[06:00:43] <sponix> I keep /var on / though, and just point it to a bigger drive with a symlink for /var/replaced-url
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472[06:03:24] <brachamh_> ah ok. hmm...gonna have to customize this a bit
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474[06:06:55] <CombatVet> any reason why a windows share wont mount at boot? dmesg shows this error: CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -101
475[06:07:16] <CombatVet> my fstab looks like this: //windows/share /mount/point cifs credentials=/path/to/.file,vers=3.0,gid=33,uid=33 0 0
476[06:07:30] <metbsd> is it possible to use archlinux aur kernel in testing
477[06:08:00] <CombatVet> also, it mounts when I 'mount -a' without a problem
478[06:08:09] <sponix> metbsd: not sure ... But have to ask why you would want to ?
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480[06:08:22] <CombatVet> i'm thinking it tries to mount it prior to running networking
481[06:08:32] <sponix> CombatVet: could be
482[06:08:54] <CombatVet> sponix, how would you solve this?
483[06:08:56] <metbsd> ok there's tweaked kernel that works for my amd ryzen 3 3200g gpu
484[06:09:04] <metbsd> this kernel fix tearing problem
485[06:09:15] <CombatVet> I even tried doing it under crontab, it wouldn't work
486[06:09:29] <metbsd> i tried options in testing kernel with xorg no tearing, but still not perfect
487[06:09:41] <sponix> CombatVet: if /etc/rc.local exist, it is normally ran after all other scripts and you could just drop a "mount -a" in there - possibly
488[06:09:42] <metbsd> so i'm thinking to use this kernel in aur
489[06:09:45] <metbsd> is it possible
490[06:10:19] <sponix> CombatVet: Most would tell you to write a systemd service for it using the "after networking" type statement towards the top. But I am WAY too lazy for such
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493[06:11:15] <sponix> metbsd: you are aware you are asking about using an Arch Linux community driven repo, on Debian -- correct ?
494[06:11:29] <metbsd> replaced-url
495[06:11:36] <metbsd> yes
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498[06:11:44] <metbsd> i already got the kernel
499[06:11:47] <sponix> metbsd: If you have such a need for a bleeding edge kernel provided by Arch. You might be best off just "using Arch"
500[06:11:55] <metbsd> can i copy from arch /boot to debian /boot
501[06:12:23] <metbsd> now i dual boot arch and debian
502[06:12:35] <sponix> metbsd: you _could_ pull down the source used to build that kernel though, and build that. Possibly even make it into a deb package for installation
503[06:12:50] <metbsd> and debian grub cannot boot arch for some reason. but arch grub can boot debian
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508[06:15:51] <sponix> you can use that to guide you... taking your arch kernel source, and its default config.. And building that kernel for your Debian
509[06:16:35] <quadrathoch2> CombatVet did you try x-systemd.requires=network-online.target ?
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571[07:56:59] <brachamh_> ok so i just installed debian (no DE), and the text on the screen is huge!
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580[08:07:53] <Clock> o.o
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590[08:27:12] <zeroes> Someone know why this mirror command doesn't work , "debmirror -a amd64 -d buster -s main -h replaced-url
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592[08:27:43] <zeroes> Got error: "Servname not supported for ai_socktype"
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615[08:54:32] <eharris> So I just installed a new copy of debian buster, and it seems to have VT switching using ctl-alt-Fn disabled so I'm stuck at the X login screen How do I re-enable that?
616[08:56:50] <ksk> eharris: that should work. Do you have a laptop or so, where you need to press "the magic button" to make these keys generate "F1" and not "unmoute sound" or so?
617[08:57:00] <ksk> (you can most likely switch default behaviour in bios)
618[08:57:15] <eharris> not a laptop, it's a desktop
619[08:58:15] <eharris> ok, if it's not a config problem I will troubleshoot further. Thx
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638[09:18:23] <Schrostfutz_> Hi, I installed a debian system that mounts the ESP as /boot. Is that a problem? During installation I got an error about failing to create hardlinks on /boot, but apt succeeded, so I assume that this is just a warning, or am I mistaken?
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679[10:00:57] <inch> Schrostfutz_: See replaced-url
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681[10:02:10] <inch> Installing packages needs hard links and if they are not supported, things can go wrong.
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684[10:03:56] <inch> Everything might work just fine until you need to upgrade a package which has files on /boot.
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692[10:13:50] <EdePopede> i'm not sure about the relation between links/elinks/elinks2 (though this one may be the successor), but i think i installed links2 because the others (inlucding lynkx of course) don't support more than just plain character cell based text. but now it seems i can't get colors (at least links) in the -dump. elinks seems to have this option. but installing another variant just to get this feature for a html viewer seems like overkill. options?
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717[10:41:27] <max42343> Hello friends, yesterday I installed debian testing and tried to sintall the nvidia driver by this tutorial: replaced-url
718[10:41:27] <max42343> white blinking cursor. How do I properly install NVIDIA drivers on Debian testing? Would it work without problems, if I used buster?
719[10:42:29] <max42343> In general can I use backports for other releasese (buster-backports) on debian bullseye?
720[10:43:03] <nkuttler> max42343: no
721[10:43:46] <nkuttler> !nvidia dkms
722[10:43:46] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d && echo -e 'Section "Device"ntIdentifier "My GPU"ntDriver "nvidia"nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Reboot to enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
723[10:43:51] <max42343> nkuttler: is there such a thing as bullseye backports?
724[10:44:06] <nkuttler> max42343: no
725[10:44:33] <max42343> So I can not isntall nvidia drivers on testing?
726[10:44:48] <nkuttler> the bot just told you what to do?
727[10:44:55] <ksk> ah, there he is :)
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730[10:47:28] <max42343> Do I need to replace "My GPU" with my gpu?
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741[11:04:05] <Schrostfutz_> inch: Okay, that is a problem... In that case I'll likely mount the ESP to /efi instead and install some hooks to copy changed files from /boot instead. I just need to find out what the appropriate hooks are.
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778[11:55:27] <nirakara> do you guys mind if i ask a question here even though I'm running ubuntu? I don't believe my problem is ubuntu specific and i run debian on all my other machines and servers...
779[11:55:57] <nirakara> i'm installing 20.04 desktop using mdadm. created the raid 0 array and installed ubuntu onto it. the instructions im following call for `mount --bind /dev /target/dev` but when i run this command i get `mount: /target/dev: mount point does not exist.` im supposed to do the same for /proc and /sys so that I can chroot into the system and install
780[11:55:58] <nirakara> mdadm before rebooting. what is the workaround for this?
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908[14:18:05] <KatrinValerie> Does anyone know which is the best mainted broadcom wifi driver? My card has a BCM4360 chipset
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911[14:20:33] <Clock> night all!
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914[14:22:25] <dvs> KatrinValerie, I don't know if it's the best maintained but the wl driver worked the best when I had to use Broadcom drivers.
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916[14:22:29] <lyakh> hi, I cannot seem to find ecryptfs-utils in stable and testing?
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926[14:27:31] <KatrinValerie> dvs: it works but it has an annoying bug that limits the usable channels of the 5ghz spectrum
927[14:27:53] <KatrinValerie> I think 40-48 are the only channels that work
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931[14:29:06] <KatrinValerie> on a side note, can someone recommend a graphical interface for wifi settings that gives you more advanced options than the gnome-settings dialogues?
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934[14:29:26] <KatrinValerie> should work with networkmanager
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936[14:29:35] <Fox> lyakh: replaced-url
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942[14:32:40] <jham> hello, after googling I found out that (correct me if I am wrong) there is currently no support for bluetooth HFP 1.6 (16khz) headsets. Looks like only 8khz is supported which leads to an ancient speech sound quality. My idea to fix it was to buy a usb dongle which supports HFP >= 1.6 and behaves to the OS as a common usb headset. Is anyone aware of such a donge compatible to current debian stable?
943[14:33:36] <lyakh> Fox, oh, that's a bummer :-/ Thanks though! I took the two packages from unstable for now - seem to work...
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947[14:36:08] <netvixtra> jham: ASUS USB-BT400
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952[14:39:14] <Fox> lyakh: did you install unstable packages on a buster ?
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954[14:39:48] <lyakh> Fox: on bullseye
955[14:39:57] <Fox> k
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957[14:40:19] <lyakh> this means I won't be getting security and other updates for them now :-/
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959[14:41:54] <jham> netvixtra: thank you - is this a bt dongle which mocks headset behavior or "just" a bt dongle with which i could be able to get 16khz wideband audio on debian with my bt headset connected to it? My Thinkpad does have BT interface the problem is probably the BT driver not supporting 16khz audio generally on debian.
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967[14:58:53] <ikonia> anyone on debian 10 running the puppet agent that is shipped from the debian repos rather than from the puppet repos
968[14:59:09] <ikonia> looking for a test case of if systemd is able to start the agent
969[15:00:26] <greycat> One would assume that *someone* is using it. Maybe you should just try to diagnose whatever's going wrong on yours. Is it starting too soon, before the network is up? The usual cause for that one is "allow-hotplug".
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971[15:01:15] <karlpinc> ikonia: _Possibly_ also, see the readme.debian.
972[15:01:16] <ikonia> greycat: so I'm trying to diagnose if the problem is with the arm build that is shipped downstream from debian to raspbian, I'm currently building a debian 10 box to validate it on x86_64 first
973[15:01:19] <karlpinc> !readme.debian
974[15:01:19] <dpkg> README.Debian (or README.Debian.gz) is a document found in the /usr/share/doc/$packagename/ which explains any Debian specific details in the package's operation or configuration.
975[15:01:32] <ikonia> but thought it worth seeing if anyone had it running before building a test box
976[15:01:54] <ikonia> karlpinc: a wise step, thank you
977[15:02:12] <KatrinValerie> any reason why you use puppet over something like ansible?
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979[15:02:34] <ikonia> KatrinValerie: personal preference, puppet fit the usecase better
980[15:02:41] <ikonia> nothing against ansible, use it all the time
981[15:02:56] <KatrinValerie> I stan it, despite never having used it in production xD
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984[15:03:37] <KatrinValerie> and now I'm studying math, so I might never get to enjoy orchestrating a bunch of debian machines for a venture
985[15:04:15] <KatrinValerie> but looking at how I handle my desktop i probably shouldn't end up in that line of work anyways
986[15:04:40] <KatrinValerie> more of a topic for the debian-social channel, sorry.
987[15:05:48] <ikonia> interesting in the README,
988[15:06:59] <ikonia> I'll need to build a debian box to validate the debian package, I suspect this will be a Raspbian/pii type problem, rather than a debian upstream
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991[15:09:45] <Zathras> Hi, I am looking for a tool to 'archive' a server beside the obvious tar. When migrating to a new server I would like to have an easy accessible backup on the new server of the old server's packagelist, etc, home, root, replaced-url
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993[15:10:20] <greycat> get the package list with dpkg --get-selections, redirect it to a text file
994[15:10:57] <greycat> I wouldn't bother with tar for the backup copies of the files. I'd just rsync them somewhere (another server on the network, or an external disk).
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997[15:12:00] <greycat> Don't forget /opt, pieces of /var (cron jobs, mail if you use /var/mail, log files maybe), or unique things like /srv /service /package ....
998[15:12:45] <Zathras> yep. The 'forgetting' part is mainly why I am looking for a tool instead of manual labour
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1021[15:54:46] <debron> hi guys, please, could you help me to set my TL- WN722N usb wifi adapter to work?
1022[15:55:13] <debron> if I say: lsusb: it appears with its model name, i already installed firmware-atheros (and also firmware-realtek) just in case
1023[15:55:43] <debron> but I cant see any wifi adapter in default debian desktop menu for wifi
1024[15:56:52] <Zathras> debron, that adapter comes in multiple versions
1025[15:57:00] <debron> bus 001 Device 005: ID XXX:XXX TP-Link TL-WN722N v2
1026[15:57:10] <greycat> dpkg tl-wn722n
1027[15:57:10] <dpkg> The TP-LINK TL-WN722N "150Mbps High Gain Wireless USB Adapter" is an 802.11n device (USB ID 0cf3:9271). It contains an Atheros AR9271 chip; for support on Debian systems, ask me about <ath9k_htc>. replaced-url
1028[15:57:48] <debron> uhm, why it didnt got recognize then?
1029[15:57:49] <lyakh> confused... "man git" prints in English (which is also what I want). "git --help" prints in German... How come?
1030[15:57:50] <debron> weird, let me check
1031[15:58:51] <greycat> Maybe there's a German translation for the git program's output strings but not the man page(s)?
1032[16:00:12] <Zathras> debron, v2 is probably a realtek unit. modprobe 8188eu
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1034[16:00:33] <greycat> I don't see any translations in replaced-url
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1037[16:00:44] <Zathras> see: replaced-url
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1041[16:02:50] <lyakh> greycat: it looks like a "glitch:" I just tried a fresh login in a tty, and there both were in English. Perhaps I had some wrong settings previously in my locale, presumably, after I logout and login again to the GUI, it will all be good here too...
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1043[16:03:51] <greycat> Or, your GUI is setting locale variables that differ from the ones you get in a console login.
1044[16:04:07] <greycat> Desktop Environments like to take over everything.
1045[16:04:12] <lyakh> yes, just did a "su - /me" in a terminal in the GUI and it was all good there too
1046[16:04:55] <karlpinc> Zathras: rsnapshot?
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1048[16:06:59] <b1ack0p> which wine pack can i install? is it ok to run sudo apt install wine?
1049[16:07:18] <b1ack0p> it shows :
1050[16:07:21] <b1ack0p> Recommended packages: wine32
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1053[16:11:44] <Zathras> karlpinc, thanks. After checking the docs: rsnapshot does not support push, only pull which would require root ssh access
1054[16:11:58] <greycat> b1ack0p: why are you requesting this much hand-holding? just try it and see. if it doesn't work, remove it.
1055[16:12:00] <Zathras> pity
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1058[16:15:07] <b1ack0p> greycat: i didnt want to install wrong package
1059[16:15:10] <b1ack0p> ok
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1068[16:25:37] <ZeroWalker> could someone help me understand Note 4 mentions in the table here: replaced-url
1069[16:26:23] <ZeroWalker> i don't really get what it means, never used backport, does it just mean i add a new sourcelist or is there more to it?
1070[16:28:12] <oerheks> backports; newer packages made available for older debian version replaced-url
1071[16:28:35] <ksk> ZeroWalker: Igore it. It just wants to tell you that the debian kernel may not be the latest kernel that was release by the linux kernel procject - but that is perfectly normal.
1072[16:29:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1147
1073[16:29:10] <ksk> !tell ZeroWalker about backports
1074[16:29:34] <ZeroWalker> But it mentions it for several features, one of them being dynamic ram, which behaves kinda odd at times (just allocating forever for no reason at times)
1075[16:29:35] <ksk> As long as you are not missing features (like termperature readings on a recent ryzen) I would not bother.
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1084[16:41:10] <mehregaan> hello
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1086[16:42:12] <ksk> ZeroWalker: This then kind of sounds like a missing feature, try installing the kernel from backports :)
1087[16:43:18] <ZeroWalker> ksk, and i am not sure how i do that, do i just add it to source list and update/upgrade, or do i "apt install kernel" or something:s
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1089[16:44:11] <ksk> You add backports to sources list, and do "apt -t buster-backports install linux-image-amd64" - or whichever kernel package you have installed.
1090[16:44:42] <ksk> ZeroWalker: the bot, dpkg, should have messaged you with a short sentence about backports, and a link to the debian wiki/handbook.
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1092[16:45:39] <ZeroWalker> i can't see anything sadly, i see you wrote the !tell thing, but then there's just us talking and some people quitting/joining the channel
1093[16:45:54] <ksk> Its a private message, somewhere ;)
1094[16:45:57] <ksk> !backports
1095[16:45:57] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. replaced-url
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1097[16:46:01] <ZeroWalker> oh i am blind
1098[16:46:10] <ksk> (its only now in channel, it was not before)
1099[16:46:27] <ZeroWalker> yeah see it now, never look there, not the first time i have missed private messages, sorry and thanks!
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1112[17:06:36] <debron> Hello guys
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1114[17:07:04] <debron> I am still trying to get my TL-Wn722n on debian
1115[17:07:48] <debron> Still cant find Wifi devices, weird because lsusb show the device model name. I went to the company website, they offer some driver to compile for linux
1116[17:07:53] <debron> but im having this error on Make
1117[17:08:49] <debron> replaced-url
1118[17:09:28] <debron> i tried creating the ...\build directory myself, but then, it enters the directory and fail with: make[1]: *** No rule to make target 'modules'. Stop.
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1120[17:11:40] <debron> could someone help me to short this out? i do not even know what SKRC or KSRC is
1121[17:12:35] <debron> is there some config file in debian where i should manually specify that USB debvice is a wifi adapter?
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1123[17:13:28] <debron> because that is what looks that is happening right now... debian know's what brand-model it is, but debian doesnt find any wifi devices
1124[17:14:19] <greycat> dpkg tl-wn722n
1125[17:14:19] <dpkg> The TP-LINK TL-WN722N "150Mbps High Gain Wireless USB Adapter" is an 802.11n device (USB ID 0cf3:9271). It contains an Atheros AR9271 chip; for support on Debian systems, ask me about <ath9k_htc>. replaced-url
1126[17:14:22] <greycat> dpkg ath9k_htc
1127[17:14:23] <dpkg> ath9k_htc is a Linux kernel driver for Atheros AR9271 and AR7010-based 802.11n USB wireless LAN devices, introduced in Linux 2.6.35. Firmware is required, ask me about <atheros firmware> to provide. replaced-url
1128[17:14:47] <greycat> If that wiki page can't help you, then I for sure can't either.
1129[17:15:12] <debron> ok , i went before to the tp-link site, let me check the wiki
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1131[17:15:15] <debron> thanks again greycat
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1133[17:16:34] <Zathras> greycat, that bot msgs is probably not entirely correct as multiple version of that WiFiNIC exist. Not all use the same chipset
1134[17:16:48] <Zathras> at least that is what a quick ddg session learned me
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1136[17:17:32] <greycat> Well, they could compare their USB ID to the one the bot showed.
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1139[17:18:13] <greycat> If theirs doesn't match, then yeah, that would raise a red flag.
1140[17:18:53] <debron> the bot says exactly my model number
1141[17:18:59] <Zathras> see: replaced-url
1142[17:19:20] <greycat> What Zathras is trying to tell you is that the *model number* is unreliable. You need to check the USB ID as well.
1143[17:19:33] <debron> oh
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1145[17:19:39] <debron> yeah i guess config is comming now
1146[17:19:53] <debron> i installed firmware-atheros long ago, but i downloaded it in a different way
1147[17:19:58] <debron> so im reinstalling from apt just in case
1148[17:20:06] <debron> and making sure its taking the nonfree in this case
1149[17:20:17] <debron> now... i guess ill go on with configurations show in the wiki
1150[17:20:35] <debron> the lsusb should tell me usb id
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1153[17:22:37] <debron> Oh noes... before when i typed lsusb , i could see my adapter brand and model there, but not anymore
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1155[17:22:47] <debron> maybe its because i reinstalled firmware-atheros
1156[17:22:50] <debron> ill reboot
1157[17:22:57] <Zathras> debron, use dmidecode
1158[17:23:10] <debron> what for'
1159[17:23:24] <Zathras> or more verbosity on lsusb
1160[17:23:31] <debron> no its okay
1161[17:23:35] <debron> its just that device
1162[17:23:42] <debron> its not being recognized anymore like it used to
1163[17:23:42] <Zathras> for detecting the model/name/chipset
1164[17:23:52] <debron> oh
1165[17:23:52] <Zathras> unplug/replug it
1166[17:23:58] <debron> yeah tried that already
1167[17:24:05] <debron> and same result
1168[17:24:11] <Zathras> use different usb port
1169[17:25:02] <debron> same result
1170[17:25:04] <debron> all the time
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1173[17:25:21] <debron> uhm this is weird, before it could be seen
1174[17:25:25] <debron> im going to reboot, brb
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1177[17:29:12] <Zathras> wb
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1179[17:29:33] <debron> thanks
1180[17:29:35] <debron> no luck at all
1181[17:29:47] <debron> oh man this is one of those things that really bring me down
1182[17:30:11] <Zathras> debron, use an usb-hub in the middle. Might help. Or follow the advice of dmidecode
1183[17:30:13] <debron> when 10 minutes earlier, i could clearly see TPLink - TL Wn722n-2 in the lsusb command
1184[17:30:17] <debron> and now i dont see nothing
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1186[17:34:06] <debron> ok i trhink i got the port number
1187[17:34:15] <debron> with lsusb -t
1188[17:34:22] <debron> and it says its wireless adapter
1189[17:34:28] <Zathras> debron, use -vvv
1190[17:35:24] <debron> couldnt open device, some information might be missing
1191[17:35:26] <debron> i think i found it
1192[17:35:31] <debron> it says its a wireless device
1193[17:35:41] <Zathras> shocking
1194[17:35:41] <debron> but also could be my telephone which is sharing internet via usb
1195[17:37:21] <Zathras> ID can be linked to manufacturer
1196[17:38:08] <debron> mmm
1197[17:38:57] <debron> ok then yeah
1198[17:39:01] <debron> it was my mobile phone
1199[17:39:03] <debron> so
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1201[17:39:16] <debron> the rest of devices are: keyboard, audio card, and 2 usb hubs
1202[17:39:20] <debron> "usb hubs"
1203[17:39:37] <debron> i suspect one of those is my mouse, and the other one is my wifi card
1204[17:40:19] <debron> so the one with the error you said "shocking" its my mobile phone, sharing internet to my computer through USB
1205[17:40:21] <Zathras> assumption is the mother of all F*ckups
1206[17:40:46] <debron> yeah, i will not believe never in my assumptions
1207[17:40:48] <debron> xD
1208[17:40:49] <Zathras> lookup IDs on the net
1209[17:40:56] <debron> uhm?
1210[17:40:58] <debron> ah yeah
1211[17:41:12] <debron> yeah thats how i found out which one was my mobile
1212[17:41:16] <debron> by the id XXX:XXX
1213[17:41:34] <debron> one of them, my audio card, is no problem, because is recognized with brand name and all
1214[17:41:53] <debron> my keyboard has also a card reader (for ID)
1215[17:42:00] <debron> and its also shown there, but 2 times
1216[17:42:06] <debron> i guess its because that feature
1217[17:42:13] <debron> but i cant find my mouse
1218[17:42:23] <debron> or wifi card
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1220[17:42:57] <Zathras> alternatively: unplug wifi thingy: lsusb, count lines, plugin thingy, count lines: if lines+1 then compare lines -> new lines is device
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1222[17:43:31] <Zathras> I am not really interested in mouses atm
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1227[17:50:14] <debron> replaced-url
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1229[17:50:38] <debron> Zathras: that are all ^
1230[17:50:49] <debron> so its one of the linux fundation
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1233[17:54:48] <debron> maybe its broken...
1234[17:55:06] <debron> going to try in windows installation for a moment, maybe the device just died
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1236[17:55:31] <debron> because im unplugging everything else, and those linux fundations still there, and nothing changes when i plug this in
1237[17:55:54] <Zathras> debron, nope. DeviceID starts with: replaced-url
1238[17:56:40] <debron> im telling you, it doesnt appear
1239[17:56:54] <debron> before it did, but not anymore since 1 hour ago
1240[17:56:59] <debron> I dont know why
1241[17:57:10] <Zathras> yes. And I made suggestions how to go around that if possible
1242[17:57:21] <debron> should i try to disconnect my mobile for a moment? its sharing internet through usb, so i might get disconected
1243[17:57:36] <debron> Zathras: the -vvv i did long ago
1244[17:57:42] <debron> and i told you results
1245[17:57:46] <Zathras> do not see the benefit of that
1246[17:57:59] <Zathras> nope: dmidecode & usb-hub
1247[17:58:04] <debron> oooh
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1249[17:58:20] <debron> ok one moment
1250[17:58:25] <Zathras> most likely dmidecode will not work when lsusb fails though
1251[17:58:53] <debron> usb hub, you mean me to use a usb hub to plug this device?
1252[17:58:56] <debron> i do not have any
1253[17:59:08] <debron> why is that a solution?
1254[18:00:16] <debron> somethihng went really wrong with this, I dont know what. i installed debian today, for some time i was able to see the device name with lsusb, but not anymore
1255[18:00:21] <debron> maybe died
1256[18:00:32] <debron> brb, going to reboot on different OS and check
1257[18:00:32] <Zathras> because the hub might get recognized by the mainboard usb interface while the tp-link can be read by the hub. Sometimes then the ID gets properly read by the motherboard as the hub is a proxy
1258[18:00:57] <Zathras> weird but true
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1260[18:01:28] <Zathras> also note my last two links
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1334[19:30:10] <debron> TL-WN722N
1335[19:30:15] <debron> how to call the bot again?
1336[19:30:19] <debron> i need that wiki link
1337[19:30:22] <debron> please
1338[19:30:35] <debron> ! TL-WN722N
1339[19:30:35] <dpkg> The TP-LINK TL-WN722N "150Mbps High Gain Wireless USB Adapter" is an 802.11n device (USB ID 0cf3:9271). It contains an Atheros AR9271 chip; for support on Debian systems, ask me about <ath9k_htc>. replaced-url
1340[19:30:42] <sney> !msg the bot
1341[19:30:42] <dpkg> Please have conversations with the bots in a private message as much as possible. Instead of using "!topic" or "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" in the channel, you can just "/msg dpkg topic". See <bot help> and replaced-url
1342[19:30:42] <greycat> dpkg ath9k_htc
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1344[19:30:55] <greycat> dpkg ath9k_htc
1345[19:30:55] <dpkg> ath9k_htc is a Linux kernel driver for Atheros AR9271 and AR7010-based 802.11n USB wireless LAN devices, introduced in Linux 2.6.35. Firmware is required, ask me about <atheros firmware> to provide. replaced-url
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1347[19:31:01] <debron> thanks
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1350[19:32:36] <debron> greycat: could you help me to compile drivers?
1351[19:32:45] <debron> I got the ones provided by the Brand
1352[19:32:54] <debron> I think will be the only possible way
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1355[19:33:09] <debron> They provide the code and a short guide on how to compile it, but I get error
1356[19:34:07] <debron> replaced-url
1357[19:34:48] <debron> What I dont understand is why I cant even identify the device , when pluged in...
1358[19:34:57] <dvs> /lib/modules/4.19.0-9-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_htc.ko
1359[19:35:00] <debron> Maybe Zathras was right about the USB-HUB
1360[19:35:29] <debron> but if so... i would really probably not use this OS, probably would try different distr
1361[19:35:45] <debron> dvs: ?
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1363[19:36:22] <debron> did you just mention a file location?
1364[19:36:26] <dvs> yes
1365[19:36:39] <debron> is that suposed to help in this case?
1366[19:36:46] <debron> I cant understand what you mean there
1367[19:37:01] <dvs> it says that the ath9k_htc.ko module is already in the kernel
1368[19:37:20] <RoyK> dvs: what does "ip link list" say?
1369[19:37:30] <dvs> RoyK, it for debron
1370[19:37:40] <dvs> **its
1371[19:38:08] <debron> dvs but thats not the thing that tp-link is providing there, right?
1372[19:38:13] <debron> they claim to provide a linux driver
1373[19:38:17] <debron> need to compile it
1374[19:38:33] <debron> I am not sure if ath9k_htc will work for my wifi card
1375[19:38:48] <debron> replaced-url
1376[19:38:52] <debron> is not listed there
1377[19:38:58] <debron> so I guess its not supported
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1379[19:39:06] <debron> thats why im try to compile from tp-link site
1380[19:39:16] <debron> TL-WN722N
1381[19:39:19] <debron> v2
1382[19:39:24] <RoyK> debron: what happens if you rmmod the driver and then modprobe it? there should be something in dmesg
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1384[19:40:04] <debron> RoyK: I am sorry, I am very rookie at linux, what is rmmod and, modprobe?
1385[19:40:19] <debron> dmesg sounds more familiar, but still will need to look about it
1386[19:41:05] <RoyK> dmesg -T will show you the kernel log with readable timestamps. rmmod ath9k_htc will unload the ath9k_htc driver. modprobe ath9k_htc will load it again
1387[19:41:23] <debron> oki I will try all those
1388[19:41:25] <debron> thanks
1389[19:41:45] <RoyK> run dmesg -T after unloading/reloading the module
1390[19:42:20] <debron> how was that command for read logs... in real time?
1391[19:42:31] <debron> mmmm
1392[19:42:40] <debron> i want to script all the stuff
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1394[19:42:49] <debron> then look in the returned file
1395[19:42:52] <debron> of the script
1396[19:43:13] <RoyK> never mind - just run this first to see what's in dmesg when you load the driver
1397[19:43:16] <greycat> if you can't even do things by hand, writing a program to do it for you is not going to go well
1398[19:43:34] <debron> xDDD i mean "script"
1399[19:43:36] <debron> console script
1400[19:43:38] <RoyK> modinfo ath9k_htc will show you if there are flags like "verbose" or something that can be used to get more info
1401[19:43:39] <debron> ok ok
1402[19:44:09] <debron> so first rmmod ath9k_htc
1403[19:44:14] <RoyK> it'll load automatically if you make it work
1404[19:44:16] <RoyK> yes
1405[19:44:16] <debron> then modprobe
1406[19:44:20] <debron> and then check dmesg
1407[19:44:24] <RoyK> modprobe ath9k_htc, yes
1408[19:44:26] <RoyK> and yes
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1410[19:44:44] <debron> ok module not loaded
1411[19:44:56] <debron> i need to install firmware-atheros , right?
1412[19:44:58] <RoyK> lsmod will show you what's loaded
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1414[19:45:04] <debron> i just reinstalled debian fresh installation
1415[19:45:10] <debron> so i will have to install again
1416[19:45:14] <RoyK> I guess so - didn't the article/bod say that above?
1417[19:45:18] <RoyK> nah
1418[19:45:26] <RoyK> apt search firmware-atheros
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1420[19:45:45] <RoyK> apt install whateverit'scalled
1421[19:45:56] <debron> firmware-atheros/stable 20190114-2 all
1422[19:46:01] <RoyK> install that
1423[19:46:27] <debron> oki
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1425[19:46:47] <debron> after installing, module stil not currently loaded
1426[19:46:52] <debron> do i need to start it manually?
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1428[19:48:06] <debron> replaced-url
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1430[19:49:05] <debron> ok i did modprobe and read dmesg
1431[19:49:09] <debron> i found this in very last line
1432[19:49:11] <debron> [Mon Jul 6 18:48:28 2020] usbcore: registered new interface driver ath9k_htc
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1434[19:49:48] <Zathras> debron, atheros is bs. Just read the docs / links I provided. Your device is a realtek unit
1435[19:49:58] <debron> isnt it very weird that I do not even see it at all in "lsusb"?
1436[19:50:11] <debron> ooohhh
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1438[19:50:54] <Zathras> v1=atheros v2=realtek v3=v2 rebranded
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1440[19:51:44] <Zathras> distro swap is bs. It is a kernel issue at most. More likely a hardware issue
1441[19:52:05] <debron> the device is working, I tested few minutes ago in the windows partition
1442[19:52:09] <debron> and works fine
1443[19:52:16] <debron> in same usb slot
1444[19:52:22] <debron> maybe kernel problem
1445[19:52:37] <Zathras> good. Try a hub or dmidecode, or just straight away the driver
1446[19:52:43] <debron> but its true that once i had atheros installed and saw the real device name once
1447[19:52:53] <debron> im going to reboot after installing realtek
1448[19:52:57] <debron> maybe im lucky
1449[19:53:00] <Zathras> at the last link I provided a patch to the kernel was suggested
1450[19:53:10] <Zathras> but that seemed old info
1451[19:53:19] <Zathras> so maybe you are in luck and can do without
1452[19:53:33] <debron> should i reboot now?
1453[19:53:38] <debron> after installing firmware-realtek?
1454[19:54:01] <debron> or maybe restart networking services and network-manager
1455[19:54:36] <Zathras> sounds like a plan. Also check logs afterwards. You could also have conflicting sw (versions) installed
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1458[19:55:01] <debron> which logs would be good idea? dmesg?
1459[19:55:19] <Zathras> dmesg/syslog/messages
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1461[19:56:10] <Zathras> you might need to modprobe the right realtek module manually
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1463[19:58:07] <debron> how to know the right one?
1464[19:58:12] <debron> i know there is one called realtek
1465[19:58:51] <Zathras> r8188eu
1466[19:59:08] <Zathras> replaced-url
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1468[20:00:34] <debron> thanks you man
1469[20:00:45] <debron> or sir, whatever you feel more confortable with
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1471[20:01:49] <Zathras> first one is fine ;-)
1472[20:01:49] <debron> Zathras: replaced-url
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1474[20:02:04] <debron> look thats the dmesg after modprobe that module
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1476[20:02:53] <debron> but lsusb still show the same
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1478[20:02:56] <debron> im going to do a reboot
1479[20:03:00] <debron> just in case lol
1480[20:03:04] <debron> even if its a nonsense in linux
1481[20:03:17] <debron> well... maybe it works, but not because reboot, but restart some services
1482[20:03:25] <debron> but as im newbie and idk, ill just try a reboot
1483[20:03:27] <debron> brb
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1495[20:10:50] <debron> hi back
1496[20:10:55] <debron> no miracles for now
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1498[20:11:39] <Zathras> debron, replaced-url
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1500[20:12:00] <Zathras> note: quite old
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1504[20:13:04] <Zathras> also check (the bottom of) replaced-url
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1506[20:13:07] <debron> Zathras: its just not there
1507[20:13:09] <debron> like not plugged
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1509[20:13:21] <debron> you know? i already identified all my usb's , and its not in there
1510[20:13:23] <debron> Idk why
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1514[20:13:39] <debron> it doesnt detect or change nothing when i plug/unplug it
1515[20:13:44] <debron> if like it were dead, but its not
1516[20:13:51] <Zathras> debron, so try alternative methods and check logs
1517[20:14:16] <debron> do you think worth try to compile the driver provided for tp-link?
1518[20:14:18] <Zathras> repeating it does not work and/or show does not fix things
1519[20:14:23] <debron> or I already have a good driver?
1520[20:14:33] <Zathras> probably the driver is ok
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1522[20:15:15] <debron> then... i think im overwelmed by this
1523[20:15:31] <debron> this cheap adapter is start to bitting me right here
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1525[20:16:15] <debron> I would love to NOT install ubuntu xD
1526[20:16:24] <debron> but im afraid, with ubuntu I wont have this problem
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1528[20:16:49] <Zathras> lol. Has little to do with distros. It is all about kernels
1529[20:16:50] <debron> so I think i will end up installing ubuntu and check if it works out-of-the-box
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1533[20:17:09] <Zathras> check my last two links
1534[20:17:15] <debron> but ubuntu kernel uses to be a bit newer always, or is not anymore?
1535[20:17:28] <debron> but i do not have a usb hub with me
1536[20:17:32] <Zathras> probably. I do not use ubuntu
1537[20:17:35] <debron> what i do have is a usb extension wire
1538[20:17:55] <debron> ok, lets try a bit more
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1540[20:18:11] <Zathras> what version of Debian?
1541[20:18:20] <debron> 10
1542[20:18:22] <debron> buster
1543[20:18:27] <Zathras> ok. good
1544[20:19:00] <debron> you said somethign about dmidecode?
1545[20:19:02] <debron> or something similar
1546[20:19:18] <Zathras> I am puzzled though: you claimed it was recognized by Buster before?
1547[20:19:22] <Zathras> yes
1548[20:19:35] <debron> Zathras: yes
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1550[20:19:47] <debron> once, i did lsusb, on the first installation
1551[20:19:56] <debron> i think in that moment i had both atheros and realtek
1552[20:20:07] <debron> and it appeared , and very perfect, with the v2 at the end
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1554[20:20:17] <Zathras> lsusb should be independed of installed drivers
1555[20:20:18] <debron> TL - WN722N v2
1556[20:20:30] <debron> like that , u know?
1557[20:20:36] <debron> but never saw that again
1558[20:20:42] <debron> and it was today, few hours ago
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1560[20:20:58] <debron> and it worked even in network manager
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1562[20:21:17] <debron> you know something weird, it was at same time that i had my mobile working USB sharing connection
1563[20:21:38] <debron> so i had this doubt on my mind "is network manager show me wifi networks because of my mobile, or the usb wireless card?
1564[20:21:50] <debron> but it couldnt be my mobile
1565[20:22:01] <debron> because my mobile doesnt act like that, it just provides something like ethernet
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1567[20:22:09] <debron> so, i unplugged my mobile
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1569[20:22:14] <debron> and never worked again
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1571[20:22:20] <debron> even after re-installing the SO
1572[20:22:22] <debron> OS*
1573[20:22:59] <debron> and in that time, i could see my addapter perfect in lsusb
1574[20:23:09] <debron> and I havent been able to that anymore
1575[20:23:31] <debron> the weirdest thing, is that after re-installing the OS , i cant reproduce this
1576[20:23:48] <debron> so... is something being maintained? even after formating disk? how is it possible?
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1584[20:26:19] <Zathras> grep -i "WN722N" /usr/share/misc/usb.ids
1585[20:27:08] <Zathras> so it is in Buster's ID database
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1587[20:28:58] <Zathras> maybe try the USB port on which it worked/showed when on Debian before?
1588[20:29:34] <Zathras> and check logs.... and /proc as mentioned in my link, and try dmidecode...
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1592[20:30:10] <debron> ok, I will check few things
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1595[20:30:32] <debron> anyway still annoying me that couldnt reproduce after reinstall the whole OS
1596[20:30:47] <debron> what could i break, that persist a format?
1597[20:30:49] <debron> or a reinstall?
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1601[20:32:55] <Zathras> nothing. Only bad thing you could do is raise the gain. Would probably mean you will need to tweak the driver
1602[20:33:37] <Zathras> uninstalling unneeded things driverwise might also help. But again: lsusb should be independent
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1604[20:33:53] <debron> Zathras: !!!
1605[20:33:55] <debron> i know now
1606[20:33:59] <debron> what could be the difference
1607[20:34:13] <debron> look, first time i was downloading packages on my mobile, then sharing to PC through USB
1608[20:34:13] <Zathras> so with normal usage you cannot break things beyond repair
1609[20:34:25] <debron> so, i downloaded a "wrong" package by accident
1610[20:34:31] <debron> realtek and atheros 2016
1611[20:34:32] <Zathras> so purge it
1612[20:34:34] <debron> instead of 2019
1613[20:34:36] <debron> noooo
1614[20:34:42] <debron> that one are the one that worked ONCE
1615[20:34:48] <debron> now im installing 2019 and i dont get nothing
1616[20:34:55] <debron> what if i install the 2016 packages again?
1617[20:35:05] <debron> i purge 2019 now
1618[20:35:10] <debron> and install 2016 packages
1619[20:35:15] <debron> of the firmware
1620[20:35:17] <debron> maybe that works
1621[20:35:19] <Zathras> only the realtek one makes sense
1622[20:35:26] <debron> ok i will do that
1623[20:35:40] <debron> yeah i did with both last time because wasnt sure
1624[20:36:19] <Zathras> there are a zillion realtek drivers. Get the right one
1625[20:36:51] <Zathras> preferably the debian one. Not a third party one
1626[20:36:53] <debron> great, maybe is just that
1627[20:37:01] <debron> no, im getting them from debian packages
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1629[20:38:02] <Zathras> also consider installing from commandline
1630[20:38:15] <Zathras> probably the package is still in the apt cache
1631[20:38:43] <Zathras> so you can use dpkg
1632[20:40:05] <debron> got it
1633[20:40:07] <debron> !!
1634[20:40:07] <dpkg> I'm not your csh prompt!
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1636[20:40:23] <debron> Zathras: it worked, now i can see my usb with right device name as ouput of lsusb
1637[20:40:43] <debron> but i used not 2016, but i downloaded the latest, which was only on backports
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1639[20:40:52] <Zathras> cool
1640[20:41:06] <debron> i have backport enabled on my sources... but it was installing the stable aparently
1641[20:41:53] <greycat> You have to read and follow the backports instructions.
1642[20:42:07] <debron> oki
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1644[20:42:44] <debron> thanks for suggest :) i guess to force this kind of things too
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1649[20:44:23] <Zathras> debron, just curious. Should I read your nick as "debron", "deb ron" or "de bron" ?
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1695[21:42:39] <GNU\colossus> I'm trying to pair a blutooth speaker with my headless Debian box. bluetoothctl pair <hwaddr> always asks for a PIN, but the speaker doesn't accept any. my desktop (using `blueman`) doesn't have that issue. any ideas how I could replicate the blueman behavior with only bluetoothctl?
1696[21:43:45] <GNU\colossus> (supplying a bogus pin, or one of the "well-known defaults" (0000, 1111, 1234) makes the pairing process fail)
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1698[21:48:09] <GNU\colossus> it also "just works" on CLI on my archlinux box
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1704[21:57:33] <annadane> i don't know, try the backported kernel? if it works on arch
1705[21:58:23] <Zathras> GNU\colossus, google "bluetoothctl without pin" gives useful info....
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1707[21:59:15] <omnisip> hey guys, I am running a managed service provider and would love to use a high quality management interface for all of the servers I've deployed in customer lans, what would you recommend?
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1711[22:02:26] <GNU\colossus> "interface"? your terminal emulator, running a shell. from there, use something like puppet.
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1713[22:05:26] <karlpinc> omnisip: ansible
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1743[22:52:56] <annadane> what do you use for .mobi?
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1753[22:57:38] <annadane> apparently calibre can do it but i thought i tried and it didn't work then
1754[22:57:49] <annadane> i'll just use that then
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1762[23:11:17] <nvz> yes, calibre is quite nice can cleanly convert any ebook to any other format desired
1763[23:11:35] <nvz> I've used it to convert ebooks for viewing on a cheap $15 chinese mp3 player
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1765[23:12:42] <p3lim> Making a repo using reprepro, got multiple components and the packages in each component have the same name, so I'm getting errors that the package can't be included since it already exists
1766[23:12:51] <p3lim> How can I fix this?
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1770[23:15:32] <nvz> idk you probably need to be more specific.. reprepro allows for different VERSIONS of the same package..
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1775[23:17:50] <nvz> 0.
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1778[23:21:00] <p3lim> same name, same version, same everything but parts of the contents (hence why I seperate as component)
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1781[23:21:25] <nvz> then make sepereate repositorities... use somethign that deduplicates like btrfs or such
1782[23:21:51] <nvz> there shouldnt be same name and same version.. reprepro nor apt are designed to understand such things
1783[23:21:56] <p3lim> there's no way to add like a tag or something to the filename it produces to differentiate them?
1784[23:23:01] <nvz> replaced-url
1785[23:23:04] <p3lim> actually, reprepro should be designed to manage multiple codenames, and they could have this exact same issue
1786[23:23:12] <nvz> perhaps somethign in that setup would clarify
1787[23:23:51] <Enissay> I have a folder in which I want to replace a given string in both filenames & content using command line. Any directions please ?
1788[23:23:59] <nvz> replaced-url
1789[23:24:06] <nvz> for example spells out the config
1790[23:24:09] <greycat> Enissay: replaced-url
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