57[00:24:40] <sney> carlino3: for instance, here's the
changelog for the kernel on the stretch system you're using
right now. ctrl+f for CVE
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75[00:30:39] <tharkun> sney: Thanks, since there are a lot of
relationships between the different objects (if you can call them
that), I was expecting something more ¿"advanced"?
222[03:38:48] <Henry151> hey folks. I am trying to make a debian
live usb thumbdrive system for my dad to use with his macbook, and
my little brother to use with his lenovo flex 11. I so far have it
working great on the lenovo, except the mouse touchpad doesn't
work. I don't have the macbook in hand at the moment, but when
we tried it earlier, he had no wifi. I had him send me a screenshot
of his wifi card information to help me
223[03:38:54] <Henry151> figure it out,
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224[03:39:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1343
225[03:39:46] <sney> !b43
226[03:39:47] <dpkg> b43 is a Linux kernel driver supporting
PCI/PCIe wireless LAN devices with Broadcom chips. Firmware is
required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide.
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227[03:39:51] <Henry151> so anyway, I *do* have the lenovo flex
11 in hand, and i'm trying to figure out what I need to get to
make the mouse work. I plugged in a USB wireless keyboard and mouse
set for the moment and that worked out-of-the-box.
229[03:40:51] <Henry151> sney: awesome! Thanks, I should be able
to get that one going. I had a laptop once that had broadcom network
hardware and so i've been through that one before (though never
with a macbook, so maybe some unforseen challenges in my future)
231[03:41:01] <sney> most laptop touchpads are just mouse
devices, when one isn't that spells trouble
232[03:41:34] <Henry151> to be honest, I came here *first*, I
haven't even googled "lenovo flex 11 touchpad linux"
or anything at all, yet.
233[03:42:31] <Henry151> sney: ah, additionally, the lenovo flex
11 is a touchscreen/convertible device, and the touchscreen
isn't working either, i would love to figure that out just for
fun.
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235[03:43:01] <Henry151> but maybe that has something to do with
why it would have a different-than-normal touchpad?
236[03:43:06] <sney> same deal, usually a touchscreen is also a
mouse as far as the OS is concerned.
254[04:00:24] <Henry151> i also get a "mmc1 unknown
controller version" "you may experience problems"
message or something like that when booting up the lenovo
358[05:35:12] <sgo11> Is this command correct? "sudo
debootstrap --arch=amd64 wheezy /debootstrap/wheezy/
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360[05:36:53] <somiaj> !archive
361[05:36:53] <dpkg> from memory, archive is a collection of
files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all
archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a
separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian
releases, see
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362[05:37:25] <somiaj> sgo11: I think the debian-archive is the
problem
363[05:37:28] <somiaj> !wheezy sources.list
364[05:37:28] <dpkg> Debian 7 "wheezy" is archived. A
suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for wheezy has one line: «deb
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378[05:54:46] <sgo11> somiaj: thank you very much for you reply.
what can I do to use it with debootstrap? I am new to debootstrap
too. I just want to run wheezy to compile something. thanks.
404[06:11:53] <sgo11> ^_^ cool. thanks a lot for the help. I
just didn't understand at the beginning. I am running with the
new URL, with my slow network, I guess it will be a long time.
405[06:12:36] <somiaj> it has to downlaod maybe 500megs of stuff
434[06:44:58] <ViperXL75> So you find yourself sitting in front
of your monitor and staring at a service that's running
mysteriously, but u have no clue how it started. :P
435[06:45:33] <somiaj> many services are started by hooks
436[06:45:42] <BazookaTooth> ViperXL75: not when some distros
enable services as soon as you install them
455[06:51:59] <somiaj> ViperXL75: that is not the command I
asekd for. YOu aren't using systemctl correctly. You have to do
'systemctl command service' but you are doing systmctl
service command -- that of course fails
463[06:56:11] <somiaj> sgo11: I just ran a test and got the same
issue, seems something is wrong with the wheezy binaries that you
cannot run a wheezy chroot from buster (might be too old)
464[06:56:19] <somiaj> sgo11: in this case you are gonna ahve to
fire up a vm
465[06:57:14] <sgo11> somiaj: ok... after all, i have to use a
vm.. thanks a lot for your help.
467[06:59:05] <somiaj> okay the issue is bash in wheezy is
having a segmetation fault, but if I use dash it works.
468[06:59:41] <sgo11> any easier vm system than
vagrant+virtualbox?
469[06:59:45] <somiaj> so for me I got the same error you did,
the system is mostly there, you can chroot with dash, might have to
use a limited shell to use the chroot. I don't know enough to
figure out why bash in wheezy is having a segfault on buster
471[07:00:12] <somiaj> virtualbox is probably the easiest for
most people but not in debian. I use qemu-kvm with libvirt, I prefer
virsh, but virt-manager is a gui front end to libvirt
478[07:02:25] <somiaj> Seems in kernels 4.10 and later an option
was used that breaks glibc < 2.14 (which is what wheezy uses).
But you can revert this change by booting with
'vsyscall=emulate'
480[07:03:12] <somiaj> so if you boot your kernel with the
'vsyscall=emulate' option, you should be able to run glibc
< 2.14 on your modern kernel and then be able to use a wheezy
chroot.
481[07:03:24] <somiaj> depending on your use case, a vm might be
the best call so you are using a wheezy kernel
482[07:03:35] <somiaj> here is the bug report I found,
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484[07:04:44] <sgo11> somiaj: thanks. will add
'vsyscall=emulate' affect anything in the future? should I
remove it after I complete the task?
485[07:05:27] <somiaj> I don't know enough to know what
LEGACY_VSYSCALL_NONE vs LEGACY_VSYCALL_EMULATE is, I think it was
removed because in most cases it isn't needed to run older
glibc
486[07:05:44] <somiaj> I don't know if it will cause any
other issues, here is the bug which is why it was changed
490[07:06:26] <somiaj> seems there are some links there about it
'weakens the kernel', exactly how I woudln't know, so
probably best to remove it once your are done, or just use a vm
491[07:07:17] <somiaj> someone in the bug report said
'minor weakness', so totally up to you what you think is
the best solution to this issue
492[07:08:20] <sgo11> I think I will just use a vm. I only have
experience with virtualbox. But my current machine hasn't
install any vm tools yet. I am googling libvirt as you recommended.
493[07:10:24] <somiaj> you can install qemu-kvm and virt-manager
from debian repos. For virtualbox, you need to go upsteam (though I
think they have a reasonablly good repor and .deb packages for it)
494[07:10:38] <somiaj> We just cannot support issues with
virtualbox here, though many use it just fine in debian.
496[07:11:42] <somiaj> I say use the one you are most familar
with. I am glad I swtiched to libvirt/qemu-kvm as it is native in
the linux kernel and doesn't have oracle's fingers on it.
though that being said, personal preference, nothing wrong with
virtualbox (often the biggest hurdel will be ensuring you can build
the virtualbox module since it isn't native to the kernle)
508[07:16:27] <somiaj> ViperXL75: wayland has been in debian as
a technology preview for a few releases. Buster is the first release
that gnome uses it by default. Other de's don't use it
509[07:17:02] <somiaj> you can choose the old xorg session for
gnome if you don't want to use waylend (some apps just
don't work in it, but all gnome stuff should)
559[08:34:06] <Henry151> how to set up automatic login with no
password? I actually set it up already, my question is how did i do
it, so that i can un-do it
586[08:50:06] <Henry151> is this maybe something i set up when i
originally created the thing and cannot change? the system is a live
usb but it has good persistence, i can install programs, modify
files, etc and it persists through
588[08:50:26] <somiaj> Henry151: usually this is done with the
display manager, what display manager do you use?
589[08:50:31] <zazagx> hi
590[08:50:40] <Henry151> i think it's lightdm? i can check
591[08:50:59] <somiaj> oh it is a live system, live systems
autoloing by default, unsure how live systems do this, but
autologins are most commonly done by a display manager
592[08:51:20] <Henry151> ah! ok!
593[08:51:55] <Henry151> i'm feeling like i'm moving
in the right direction here. So it's not something I explicitly
"set up" it's just default behavior for debian live
systems.
594[08:52:08] <Henry151> Any known way to disable it?
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624[09:30:27] <nvz> Henry151: first you gotta figure out whats
doing it
625[09:30:31] <nvz> dpkg, which dm?
626[09:30:32] <dpkg> To figure out which Display Manager you are
using, open a terminal and type the following command: `systemctl
status display-manager` see also <which de> and <which
x>.
634[09:34:03] <nvz> on the mirrors these are aliased.. but
they're not releases
635[09:34:57] <kreyren> nvz, so trying buster? assuming that
this environment has stable, testing and sid sources in sources.list
where it's expected to use stable unless others are called on
demand
636[09:35:15] <kreyren> where it's currently using
testing/sid on apt upgrade
637[09:36:07] <nvz> idk.. but you can't really go backwards
690[10:20:53] <laughingtiger> hi, I'm unable to install
virtualbox on debian 10, I did installed kvm, but with windows10 as
guest OS, the graphic is too slow. virtualbox tells me to run
vbox-config but it repeatedly asks root password for 6 times or so,
then stuck at building kernel module.
691[10:21:46] <nvz> you'll need kernel headers installed
for that
692[10:22:21] <nvz> I had no issues with virtualbox, I just
fetched it from their website, works fine for me
693[10:22:26] <laughingtiger> nvz, but it's installed
698[10:23:42] <ksk> Do you have a log or so? If I remember
correctly, the install/"give password dialog" spawns a
shell?
699[10:24:12] <laughingtiger> ksk, idk which log file to check
even.
700[10:24:39] <ksk> the shell spawned by the installer
containing the details of a failed "kernel module build"
for starters :)
701[10:25:00] <laughingtiger> and vmware gives error "could
not open /dev/vmmon:no such file or directory.please make sure that
the kernel module vmmon is loaded"
702[10:25:09] <ksk> one problem at a time, please.
703[10:25:31] <laughingtiger> then "failed to initialize
monitor device"
704[10:25:42] <ksk> Be aware that both vmware and Virtualbox are
third party software, and not part of debian btw..
705[10:26:20] <laughingtiger> ksk, I know that, can reinstall
debian solve this problem?
706[10:26:31] <ksk> Do you plan on running 3D-accelerated stuff
inside the VM? I dont think that this would work in
vmware/virtualbox.
707[10:26:39] <laughingtiger> looks like sth serious is wrong
708[10:26:53] <ksk> laughingtiger: we dont really have any
details regarding this problem still..
715[10:28:19] <ksk> If you did not break it before, it wont
change anything.
716[10:28:38] <laughingtiger> ksk, like when moving the mouse it
isn't smooth.
717[10:28:43] <ksk> And you in general do not break anything, if
you stay away from invoking a root-shell and doing things you do not
understand.
718[10:29:16] <laughingtiger> ksk, this system has been running
for too long, I can't even remember what have I done to it.
719[10:29:57] <ksk> the problem you have in kvm is "missing
2d acceleration" - I would assume its a known thing and you
would find how to get it on the webs.
720[10:30:22] <ksk> I would maybe suggest going that road, but
there is nothing wrong with Virtalbox et al. per se.
721[10:30:28] <laughingtiger> ksk, I didn't know that. let
me give that a try.
722[10:30:39] <laughingtiger> ksk, thank you for that.
723[10:30:51] <laughingtiger> if that works, I don't need
virtualbox then.
724[10:30:57] <ksk> like, in virtualbox its a checkbox in the
settings "enable 2d acceleration" and that afaik also
works if you use the kvm hypervisor in virtualbox, so..
729[10:32:45] <no_signal> "missing 2d acceleration"
message might be resolved by installing virtualbox tools thing
(forgot how it's called) on the guest
730[10:33:13] <no_signal> "addon" something
731[10:33:22] <laughingtiger> ksk, yeah, thank you. I'll
find it.
732[10:33:32] <ksk> no_signal: he is running (plain?) kvm.
746[10:37:35] <judd> No package named 'amavis' was
found in buster/amd64.
747[10:37:56] <ksk> ,info amavisd-new
748[10:37:58] <judd> Package amavisd-new (mail, optional) in
buster/amd64: Interface between MTA and virus scanner/content
filters. Version: 1:2.11.0-6.1; Size: 926.0k; Installed: 2725k;
Homepage:
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749[10:38:25] <ksk> thms: I would assume its a relict of the
days before we had journald, and syslog was the default
logging-target for daemons in debian.
750[10:38:27] <thms> It's not the buster package tho. An
old version, don't know if latest version still does that.
751[10:38:40] <ksk> ah okay, that would be something to
check-out then :)
777[10:48:58] <ksk> (if it is not the correct drive, you will
destroy your data, be careful)
778[10:49:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1368
779[10:49:01] <thms> ksk: I unmasked systemd-logind but do not
get the error anymore. I'll have to learn more about systemd
tho. :) Thank you for ur input!
780[10:49:11] <ksk> thms: welcome.
781[10:49:12] <riverr> I have script which runs one command
every 10 seconds as root. Auth log is getting spammed with those
sudo logs, is there something I could do about this?
782[10:49:25] <ksk> riverr: ignore it :)
783[10:49:50] <riverr> ksk, sure but its so frequent so I
thought it would be good to disable it
784[10:49:59] <ksk> give it a week, take a look then at how much
diskspace is taken by all the aut.logs - it wont be too much :)
785[10:50:00] <riverr> I wanted to ran the script as root but it
doesnt suit my purposes
786[10:50:25] <riverr> also inspecting auth log becomes harder
when there is same log every 1s
789[10:50:56] <ksk> if you call sudo this gets logged, I dont
know of a configurable workaround (or that this would be a wise
design-choice - after all you -do- want to know if someone used
sudo)
840[11:02:25] <ksk> reading the webs it might be you can tweak
pam to not log user elevation. But thats pretty deep in-system
changes and the field may not be trivial.
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853[11:12:38] <riverr> ksk, looks like there is 3 logs logged to
auth log when I do the sudo iptables command, root session open,
root session closed then the one which has the command
854[11:12:54] <riverr> the command log can be disabled with that
stackoverflow thing i posted but there is still all those root auths
855[11:12:56] <riverr> logged
856[11:13:06] <ksk> kk.
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903[11:59:21] <duso> Evening, I am having a wierd issue with the
debian netinst iso. It will only boot in mbr legacy mode. I wrote
arch linux iso to the same usb, booting in the same computer, and it
EFI boots. What am I doing wrong?
904[12:00:08] <duso> I have tried creating the USB with both dd
and just cp the file to /dev/sdb
935[12:23:12] <duso> vlt: thanks for trying, sometimes when
you've been bashing your head against the keyboard for too long
it helps to just hash out options. IRC is good for that
936[12:23:14] <VinPop> hey how do i know what my CPU
infrastructure is?
945[12:23:49] <nvz> VinPop: what kind of machine is it?
946[12:23:56] <VinPop> Desktop
947[12:24:00] <nvz> its amd64
948[12:24:05] <nvz> or its not supported
949[12:24:05] <VinPop> Thanks
950[12:24:34] <nvz> chances you have some s390, sparc or
something and dont know it are slim
951[12:24:35] <VinPop> Intel Core i5 if it helps
952[12:24:41] <nvz> yes, thats amd64
953[12:25:05] <VinPop> alright thanks and one more thing
954[12:25:10] <VinPop> Debian is just Debian right?
955[12:25:17] <VinPop> it doesn't have any flavors or
anything
956[12:25:21] <VinPop> it installs as base
957[12:25:49] <nvz> yes and the installer has tasksel with
various tasks of additional packages you can select
958[12:26:09] <nvz> which include additional standard system
utils, 7 different desktop environments, etc
959[12:26:19] <nvz> !buster
960[12:26:19] <dpkg> Buster is the codename for the current
<stable> release, Debian 10, released 2019-07-06.
"Buster" is Andy's pet Dachshund in Toy Story, see
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961[12:26:22] <nvz> erm
962[12:26:23] <VinPop> which one is the most minimal and
customizable
963[12:26:36] <nvz> can't even remember my own factoid
964[12:26:49] <duso> there are different flavors of live
cd's that you can also install from
965[12:26:55] <nvz> !de usage
966[12:26:56] <dpkg> i guess de usage is The HDD/RAM of the 7 DE
on Stretch: GNOME 4.2G 726M, KDE 4.1G 604M, Cinnamon 3.7G 482M, MATE
3.1G 215M, LXQt 3.1G 184M, LXDE 3.0G 180M, XFCE 2.9G 226M. For
Buster usage, package lists, and screenshots of the same see
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967[12:27:25] <nvz> VinPop: there are size usages, screenshots
and package lists on my site there
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968[12:27:43] <nvz> VinPop: I personally would recommend MATE,
Cinnamon, or XFCE
969[12:28:00] <BazookaTooth> mate beat xfce on ram? since when?
988[12:32:43] <nvz> well I been here using and supporting debian
since like 2002.. and its because of these
989[12:32:46] <nvz> !why debian
990[12:32:47] <dpkg> Debian strives to maintain your freedom
whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of
making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See
also
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991[12:32:51] <nvz> !social contract
992[12:32:51] <dpkg> The Debian Social Contract is the document
that defines Debian's purpose, see
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993[12:33:38] <nvz> all linux distributions are the same for the
most part.. the communities and their priorities are what matter
994[12:34:08] <nvz> the sooner potential linux users realize
that and find a community that has similar goals to their own, the
happier everyone will be
1000[12:38:09] <nvz> though I also don't believe you need to
have sex with everyone on the planet or at least all the ones you
meet to try come across one that just magically suits you.. and its
kinda the same thing as people do when they hear of linux and
realize there is more than one distribution
1001[12:38:35] <BazookaTooth> "well it's based
on..."
1002[12:38:37] <nvz> its like a boy realizing after that first
time.. wait.. there are more of these-- EVERYONE HAS ONE? :P
1051[13:00:30] <nvz> ice9: ldconfig is provided by libc-bin and
should be installed an in /sbin/ and start-stop-daemon is provided
by dpkg and should also be in /sbin/
1052[13:00:42] <nvz> as for what is wrong with packages on some
random 3rd party repo I have no idea
1070[13:06:11] <duso> vlt: I just downloaded the latest testing
netins image and cp /dev/sdb and again it does not detect it in EFI
mode, only legacy bios boot. Other distro's work fine. I wonder
if it is something to do with this hybrid image thing
1073[13:07:19] <EdePopede> sure you ran dpkg as root?
1074[13:07:24] <duso> vlt: I will try poking around in my bios
settings again, but if other distro's can boot into EFI mode
with unchanged settings, why should debian be different?
1075[13:07:40] <ice9> EdePopede, yes, basically i was running
"apt install nodejs"
1118[13:23:03] <EdePopede> i suppose it is still in its original
state?
1119[13:23:08] <ws2k3> i use ssh-server basicly as an sftp
server. now i would like to log all actions users do. what would be
a good way to acchieve this. im reading here i can change LogLevel
to DEBUG. but i was just wondering if there is another/better way
1234[13:58:02] <ayekat> VinPop: installing programs on Debian (or
any Linux distro) is done through a package manager, not by
downloading random stuff from the Web
1235[13:58:03] <VinPop> Cordless is just a Discord TUI
1236[13:58:12] <nvz> @.@
1237[13:58:14] <ayekat> ah right, I was wrong :-X
1238[13:58:33] <nvz> something tells me you ignored my spiel
earlier and you don't belong here :P
1239[13:58:33] <BazookaTooth> eh
1240[13:59:07] <nvz> but if you wanna do things the hard way, we
can help you with Debian stuff.. which Cordless/Discord is
definately not
1241[13:59:07] <BazookaTooth> install synaptic and search
1242[13:59:23] <nvz> VinPop: do you have a wired connection
available?
1243[13:59:38] <BazookaTooth> aptitude-ui or whatever if you are
brave
1244[13:59:45] <VinPop> yeah i just need to set it up
1245[13:59:53] <VinPop> connect the router to the PC
1246[14:00:17] <nvz> VinPop: I'd advise doing so for a few
minutes.. as otherwise you are going ot have to learn wpa_supplicant
which is not real easy to use
1247[14:00:33] <VinPop> alright
1248[14:00:43] <nvz> VinPop: connecting to wifi from a base
install is not very easy.. if you can wire to install some more
stuff that'd be easier on you
1249[14:01:35] <VinPop> Okay i'm gonna do that business with
the router at night because everyone needs the internet rn
1250[14:01:38] <nvz> VinPop: I'd recommend you install
screen, irssi, links2, network-manager, sudo just to get you working
while you decide what desktop/browser and stuff you want
1251[14:01:55] <VinPop> thanks i really appreciate your help
1252[14:01:58] <nvz> VinPop: well we can get you online with wifi
1253[14:02:09] <nvz> but its not the most user-friendly thing in
the world :D
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1255[14:02:16] <nvz> would've been easier to do in the
installer
1256[14:02:16] <VinPop> that's okay
1257[14:02:25] <VinPop> i still have the install USB
1306[14:13:59] <nvz> I prefer MATE of the 7 DE personally.. its
very usable and configurable.. XFCE and Cinnamon would be my
prefrence above the rest :P
1307[14:14:18] <VinPop> yeah from what i saw Cinnamon looks very
very nice
1308[14:14:42] <nvz> yeah and its very similar in use and shares
config/themes and such with MATE and GNOME
1309[14:15:05] <dvs> VinPop, I'd use
firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install the base and specify
the desktop environment you want afterwards.
1310[14:15:06] <VinPop> that's really cool
1311[14:15:33] <VinPop> alright it's almost finished
downloading
1312[14:15:38] <nvz> it also has a default config that'd be
more familiar for windows users
1319[14:17:31] <nvz> VinPop: well the text stuff isnt usually
that daunting but the BASE debian doesn't come with much.. its
a bare minimum.. and what you have to work with can be cumbersome
1320[14:17:47] <VinPop> yeah it's like they just give you
flour
1321[14:17:51] <VinPop> not even all the ingredients
1322[14:17:55] <VinPop> and tell you to make a cake
1323[14:18:00] <BazookaTooth> kinda the point
1324[14:18:10] <nvz> some of the text programs are a lot nicer
than the alternatives I use a lot of them regularly.. like irssi for
irc, pianobar for pandora, mps-youtube for youtube..
1325[14:18:31] <BazookaTooth> otherwise you end up with an extra
200 packages you don't do anything with but always get updated
unless you prune them out
1326[14:18:48] <nvz> which is why I dont recommend using live to
install.. too much cruft
1463[15:44:33] <BazookaTooth> why expect nothing to ever change?
1464[15:44:34] <ZAJDAN> why fresh install doesnt created PATH
1465[15:44:41] <joepublic> dpkg, su
1466[15:44:41] <dpkg> extra, extra read all about it, su is
switch/set user. It is used to change User ID's and/or gain
super user access. Since Debian Buster, "su -" or "su
-l" is needed to access programs located in /sbin (see
<buster su>). It provides an root environment as if the
superuser had logged in directly. See "man su".
1467[15:44:49] <nvz> !buster su
1468[15:44:49] <dpkg> In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by
default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su
-l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at
all...). To approximate the previous behaviour, put
"ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes" in /etc/login.defs. See
replaced-url
1469[15:45:03] <ZAJDAN> omg omg
1470[15:45:17] <joepublic> hey, you asked.
1471[15:45:24] <ZAJDAN> the newer it is..the worst it is
1492[15:51:57] <nvz> I thought the change was rather stupid at
first.. but a lot has been rather stupid for a long time..
they're actually trying to get it right.. the PATH shouldnt be
set by changing user, it should be set by the user logging in..
unless you tell it to login when you change the user
1537[16:05:52] <BCMM> MYK-78: in a terminal emulator? or did the
VT font change?
1538[16:06:00] <nvz> dondelelcaro: I have two questions, do you
know how to get the bot to show more output when it displays only a
few results? and have you restored an old backup recently?
1579[16:31:31] <miskatonic> screen -wipe removes dead sessions
from screen -ls, but that may not be the desired effect of
justthedoctor
1580[16:31:54] <JustTheDoctor> thanks miskatonic i used pkill
screen and it did the trick
1581[16:32:26] <BCMM> rrttyy: you could try renaming your
~/.gimp-2.8 directory or ~/.config/GIMP/ directory (not sure which
is the one it uses currently), in case there's something old in
there
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1590[16:37:00] <BCMM> /tmp is sometimes placed on a RAM-based
filesystem for performance reasons
1591[16:37:28] <nvz> well seperating /home makes data migration
more straightforward.. seperating any of those you mentioned also
easily prevents careless use of the system from filling up the
rootfs and allows for you to reinstall the rootfs without formatting
the other partitions and retain all data
1592[16:37:32] <Johann> Ooze: /tmp and /var can be filled pretty
fast from logs and temporary files explosion (notably for web
browser but it can be true for any system), so it's good to
separate them to avoid breaking your system if it fills
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1595[16:39:08] <Johann> /home is the same, can be filled by user
and you don't want that to make yur system unusable, plus it
allows you to install a new system from scratch without wiping
user's data
1599[16:41:48] <Ooze> Makes sense. I just screwed up my partition
table last time trying to grow /home. I guess LVM should change that
this time round tho
1600[16:41:48] <miskatonic> keeping /home can cause troubles,
though. old config files in .config may be incompatible with
upgraded versions
1614[16:44:56] <nvz> BadPractice: not yet, but I'm working
on it
1615[16:45:09] <simplicius> nvz: yes but doesn't work
1616[16:45:21] <BadPractice> i just installed a debian stable on
my Lenovo T480 and do not manage to get thunderbolt support
according to my thunderbolt settings of my gnome desktop
1617[16:45:22] <nvz> simplicius: what DE are you using?
1618[16:45:30] <simplicius> nvz: Ice
1619[16:45:37] <nvz> IceWM?
1620[16:45:50] <simplicius> how can I run it through shell
invocation?
1621[16:46:00] <nvz> IceWM?
1622[16:46:26] <simplicius> yes
1623[16:46:31] <miskatonic> icewm is not a de
1624[16:46:46] <simplicius> Xfce
1625[16:47:12] <nvz> so you're using XFCE AND IceWM?!
1626[16:47:16] <simplicius> yes
1627[16:47:26] <nvz> thats a bit odd.. icewm provides
desktop/panels like a DE
1643[16:49:59] <simplicius> dpkg-query: no packages found
matching xfce4-screenshooter
1644[16:50:04] <nvz> o.O
1645[16:50:51] <nvz> simplicius: well we're gonna need some
basic information.. unless you have anything to add like something
you did recently.. upgraded to sid, put in strange sources..
something..
1646[16:50:56] <mvaenskae> eh, is there a reason the installer
for buster unconditionally writes random data to a disk that i want
to be cryptographically secure without invoking the secure erase
command, thus making the process at least for SSDs magnitudes
quicker?
1650[16:51:55] <rrttyy> BCMM: I'll try doing that. Whatever
config file is present would probably be old, I've been
uprading this machine from debian 8, about four years now.
1658[16:54:07] <nvz> simplicius: yes, dpkg -l | grep screenshot
is a simple command that does essentially that
1659[16:54:38] <Ooze> Should I be doing something like this
manual partitioning to set up LVM, or should the Guided LVM in
Debian install be sufficient?
replaced-url
1660[16:54:52] <BadPractice> i just installed a debian stable on
my Lenovo T480 and do not manage to get thunderbolt support
according to my thunderbolt settings of my gnome desktop
1662[16:55:58] <nvz> BadPractice: I heard you the last time.. and
so did everyone else.. I have a T440 and X240.. no thunderbolt..
dont know much about it..
1709[17:09:52] <EdePopede> simplicius, you could play with:
debtags search 'interface::commandline && role::program
&& scope::utility && use::storing &&
works-with::image'
1710[17:10:17] <EdePopede> simplicius, both scrot and flameshot
have them all, and byzanz also appears
1711[17:10:48] <nvz> BadPractice: its most likely disabled in
bios but idk.. systemctl -k and dmidecode .. whatever might help but
prob easier to reboot and check the bios
1759[17:21:11] <oxek> ok, I read about backporting it, but that
still requires me to add the testing repos so that I can download
the testing source, no?
1760[17:21:26] <oxek> so I am still kinda on the same path, no?
1761[17:21:28] <nvz> just relax a minute I'm gonna do it and
see
1765[17:22:06] <oxek> thanks for trying to help. I don't
need you to do it all for me, just a pointer in the right direction
of some guide would be enough I hope.
1766[17:22:47] <oxek> somiaj: so I'd add just the deb-src
testing repos and not the ones that start with just 'deb',
yes?
1767[17:23:25] <somiaj> oxek: yea, because deb-src only gives you
access to source packages, not binaries and won't install
anything on your system (just give you the ability to download
source and use build-dep to install build depends)
1768[17:23:43] <somiaj> and build-dep will come from stable (if
possible otherwise throw an error)
1790[17:27:46] <trek00> oxek: you need to download the source one
time only and you can specify the target release by command line:
apt-get source -t testing scrcopy
1791[17:27:47] <nvz> should-work backport instructions for scrcpy
from sid
replaced-url
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1794[17:28:18] <somiaj> oxek: from apt-get manpage, seems apt-get
source does respect default release, you can also use apt-get source
package=version or apt-get source package/release
1796[17:28:58] <nvz> BadPractice: I don't have the foggiest
idea how a thunderbolt works, or what you'd hook to it.. or why
you'd even want to.. so I can't really help
1797[17:29:02] <somiaj> oxek: so though you could mess with the
APT::Default-Release for this, to me I don't see the point and
just manaully state what source you want to download at the time.
1804[17:30:34] <somiaj> oxek: trek00: suggestion of -t testing
makes the pinning of the release 999 making it choose that one, you
could also use teh apt-get source package/release or package=version
to specificy which one if there are multiple.
1805[17:30:58] <somiaj> oxek: to me since you have various
options to control which source to download, I don't think
changing the defaults will do much (except maybe cause problems
later if you forget you set that)
1815[17:32:23] <somiaj> oxek: offical backports are from testing,
it is your choice (also might want to check if there is a version
difference)
1816[17:32:24] <trek00> oxek: try the one nvz said at first
1817[17:32:31] <nvz> oxek: when it comes to testing or unstable..
its best to go with unstable.. its more current.. testing can
develop issues that are slower to fix cause they typically gotta be
fixed in sid first
1820[17:33:04] <somiaj> oxek: you an also just grab upstream and
build locally and install in /usr/local if you don't want to go
through the extra work of making a .deb (.deb is useful is wanting
to install on multiple machines)
1821[17:33:08] <nvz> oxek: normally if the package is already in
stable you don't need to manually install the builddeps which
is the longer of the commands
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1823[17:33:25] <oxek> sounds scary but ok
1824[17:33:42] <nvz> its actually dead simple.. if I weren't
already on sid I'd have prob done it already
1825[17:33:43] <somiaj> nvz: you shouldn't need to manually
isntall build deps, apt build-dep packagename will do that if you
have the deb-src line
1826[17:34:04] <nvz> somiaj: I've had spotty results with
that.. but good to know
1827[17:34:26] <somiaj> well build-deps may not be satisifable in
stable (which is a whole different story) but if they are, you
don't need to manually install them
1828[17:34:44] <trek00> i usually save the build-dep package list
to remove it after building
1829[17:34:48] <nvz> well judd only mentioned debhelper-compat
and thats just a bug in judd
1830[17:35:00] <somiaj> the most common one is the debian helper
depends, but you can get newer debian helper from buster-backports
1831[17:35:26] <somiaj> well often times packages are built with
the newerest standards and need newer debian helper (or you to
modify the compat level in the debian/ directory)
1832[17:35:37] <somiaj> ,v debhelper-compat
1833[17:35:38] <judd> No package named
'debhelper-compat' was found in amd64.
1834[17:35:51] <nvz> the version it complained about is 12..
which is in buster
1835[17:36:03] <somiaj> ,v debhelper
1836[17:36:04] <nvz> it does this for everything that uses
debhelper
1838[17:36:08] <trek00> LANG=C apt-get -s build-dep scrcopy | sed
'/^ /!bA;H;$bA;d;:A;x;/The following NEW/!d;s/^The
.*:\n//' >build-package-list.txt
1839[17:36:40] <trek00> then after build: apt-get purge $(cat
build-package-list.txt)
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1841[17:36:44] <nvz> trek00: kudos, I used an actual editor for
the search and replace :P
1842[17:36:46] <somiaj> nvz: ahh that could be true the bot has a
bug, but it isn't uncommon to need debhelper from backports to
build testing packages without modifing debian/
1890[17:55:59] <nvz> brutser: though mine is an encrypted lvm so
its slightly different
1891[17:56:35] <brutser> trek00: i think i need to yes, i just
don't know how to do that exactly :)
1892[17:57:03] <sgo11> Hi, after adding a bridge network
interface br0 in /etc/network/interfaces and install "qemu-kvm
virt-manager libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon-system bridge-utils
virtinst libvirt-daemon", my wireless device is no longer
working. GUI shows "device not managed". Why and how to
fix it? THanks a lot.
1893[17:57:12] <brutser> trek00: during install i need to get
this UUID?
1894[17:57:27] <brutser> any tutorial that explains that part?
1895[17:57:40] <trek00> brutser: just add it to the grub
commandline: linux /vmlinuz root=UUID=1234-dead-beef
1910[18:01:34] <trek00> juanrubio_: that directory is only for
python packages installed manually (not via aptitude)
1911[18:01:50] <trek00> juanrubio_: if you don't have
installed any you should not have that directory
1912[18:02:22] <sgo11> All I do is: install the packages listed
above. and then "sudo virsh net-start default", virsh
net-autostart default", modprobe vhost_net, adding br0 to
/etc/network/interfaces. and then reboot. That's all.
1913[18:02:42] <trek00> juanrubio_: for packages installed via
apt you should check /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages
1914[18:03:05] <sgo11> After that, wifi device is not managed
shown in the GUI.
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1916[18:03:19] <trek00> sgo11: which GUI? there are many
1928[18:06:59] <brutser> trek00: cryptsetup luksOpen
${luksdevice} luksroot < here i decrypt /dev/sda and it creates
/dev/mapper/luksroot < should i do blkid /dev/mapper/luksroot to
find the UUID?
1937[18:09:06] <brutser> perhaps i should do this anyway
1938[18:09:07] <sgo11> trek00: what is different btw "virsh
net-start br0" or "virsh net-start default"? wif I
don't start default, will virt-manager work? Thanks a lot. I
never use qemu vm and virt before.
1939[18:09:13] <BalooRJ> I've noticed that when I open the
download folder from browsers it defaults to nautilus rather than
thunar, which I prefer to use. Have no desire to use nautilus, but
want to keep furiusisomount. Doesn't seem that I can uninstall
nautilus without uninstalling the other
1950[18:12:15] <somiaj> BalooRJ: can you tell your browser which
application to use to open folders? It could also be using an xdg
mime type which can be changed (though unsure what mime type would
be for folders)
1953[18:13:29] <Akuw> i have a virtual machine that is using dhcp
to get ip address, but i want to use static, but if i use static
then could be i choose a used one
1957[18:14:11] <sney> Akuw: go into your router, find the range
for dhcp addresses, choose one outside that range
1958[18:14:28] <Akuw> is there any other way?
1959[18:14:39] <Akuw> no way to use static and gateway?
1960[18:14:50] <somiaj> Akuw: usually dhcp servers have a way to
limit what address they assign, so you can use static address that
are not in that range.
1961[18:15:08] <trek00> BalooRJ: you should be able to configure
your default browser adding the inode/directory to your miminfo see
replaced-url
1962[18:15:11] <somiaj> Akuw: the other option is to configure
the dhcp server to always give the same address to that
machine's mac address, this will efictivally be static.
1963[18:15:12] <BalooRJ> somiaj: Thank you, let me look into the
mime type for directories. When looking through the firefox settings
I don't see a setting for using a specific app to open folders
1964[18:15:59] <BalooRJ> trek00: Thank you, this seems to be what
I am looking for
1965[18:16:08] <trek00> brutser: well ok, then both your boot
partition (on usb) and root partition (on disk) are encrypted? if so
you need to add the crypttab entry
1966[18:16:12] <Akuw> how can i see all ips used in my net?
1967[18:16:50] <somiaj> Akuw: Why avoid what we are saying, at
some level you need to know what ip range your dhcp server assigns.
And this can be configured
1968[18:17:14] <somiaj> seeing all possible ip's on your net
won't change or tell you the max possible range your dhcp
server can assign
1969[18:17:31] <Akuw> the problem is i dont admin that
1970[18:17:54] <Akuw> so because its a VM i thought i could use a
private range
1971[18:17:55] <somiaj> Akuw: can you talk to the admin, or
request a static ip from them for that machiens mac address?
1974[18:18:54] <somiaj> Akuw: now this depends on how your
virtual network is setup, some vms are setup to use a bridge and use
an ip on the same network as the host, others have a virtual
network, and the host uses nat to get trafice to and from the vm
1975[18:19:01] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1400
1976[18:19:10] <somiaj> Akuw: if you use the later, you own the
dhcp server for the virtual network and can configure it
1977[18:19:43] <Akuw> i have the first
1978[18:20:04] <somiaj> (though if you hide your vm behind your
hosts ip, you have less access to it from the outsdie world and have
to setup port forwarding for any thing you want to serve)
1979[18:20:06] <brutser> trek00: yes i thought so too, but initrd
is not decrypting the disk, that's done by grub's
cryptomount, even before the initrd is loaded - so what kind of line
would i put in crypttab then??
1981[18:20:44] <somiaj> Akuw: sounds like you need to contact the
admin of the network and ask them for a static ip. They will either
assign you one you can use or setup the dhcp server to give that vms
mac address one then.
1982[18:20:45] <Akuw> one question, i just installed debian 10,
in that VM, i can ping from VM to my computer, but can ping from my
computer to that VM. this version of debian has any firewall >
1983[18:20:45] <trek00> brutser: the one not yet decrypted, the
root partition
1984[18:21:18] <somiaj> Akuw: debian doesn't include any
firewall by default, it sounds like a network issue.
1985[18:21:29] <somiaj> Akuw: you might want to check more
details about how the network with the vm is actually configured
2054[19:00:09] <oxek> wow looks like the 'hacker' scene
from movies with all that text flying around
2055[19:00:27] <Ooze> I nfs map a drive on my NAS to /media.
Previously I had manually changed the uid of my local debian user to
match that of my NAS user. Is this bad practice?
2056[19:01:59] <greycat> It is a GOOD practice to use consistent
username/UID pairs across your LAN, when doing NFS.
2067[19:09:29] <oxek> now... what do I need to keep in mind for
the future? When scrcpy is officially in stable or backports, will
something break?
2068[19:09:52] <somiaj> oxek: good job. Backprots are often not
that hard and work well (provided you can build the software in
stable -- this is where it gets hard if the software can't
actually be built with the libaries in stable)
2069[19:10:43] <somiaj> oxek: provided it was just a package or
two, not much, usually versions will be newer causing the package to
upgarde naturally
2072[19:11:31] <somiaj> oxek: it is often suggested when
upgrading to be careful about thrid party packages (this is your own
third party package), they can cause trobules, but usally one or two
that nothign else depends on won't.
2073[19:13:15] <oxek> also, can something break by keeping this
"APT::Default-Release "stable";" in
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/default-release?
2074[19:13:29] <oxek> should i perhaps change it to
APT::Default-Release "buster"; ?
2077[19:14:46] <brutser> trek00: still not working: linux
/vmlinuz cryptdevice=UUID=0000-1111-2222:luksroot
root=/dev/mapper/luksroot ro quiet
2078[19:14:54] <brutser> would that be the way to add
cryptdevice?
2079[19:14:58] <somiaj> oxek: as I said, I see no reason you need
to do that. But if you change releases it may have an affect later
2080[19:18:23] <oxek> somiaj: I think I prefer it because I am
likely to forget about having the debian testing deb-src in my
sources.list, which means that if I have to get the source of some
package in stable I'll just do `apt source package` and not
realize I am getting the testing version instead of stable.
2086[19:21:25] <somiaj> oxek: deb-src does nothing as I have said
2087[19:21:47] <somiaj> oxek: if you are worried about the next
time you comple source getting testing sources, just comment it out
now that you are done with it
2088[19:22:31] <somiaj> anyways, personal choice, if you manually
set the default release, realize this could have issues down the
road when you upgrade to bullseye.
2138[19:49:03] <sney> what kind of connection? what exactly are
you trying? did you have an internet connection in the installer?
2139[19:49:36] <metbsd> my home maybe 10-20 devices including
webcam, alarm system, thermostat and phones, computers
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2141[19:50:16] <trek00> brutser: it prints some error?
2142[19:50:17] <VinPop> sney Wi-fi connection, i don't
understand the second question and yes
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2144[19:50:46] <greycat> if your Internet connection is under 100
Mbps, then a 100 Mbps router should suffice, alhough I'd be
concerned about the age of this device, and thus its expected
remaining lifetime
2145[19:51:05] <sney> VinPop: like, what steps did you take
before you saw the word "failed"
2146[19:51:17] <sney> remember I cannot see your screen.
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2148[19:51:23] <VinPop> all of the steps i did were in the
installer
2149[19:51:31] <VinPop> in the actual finished OS i just clicked
connect
2150[19:51:32] <metbsd> youe right it's old laptop. i'm
thinking turning it to a router
2152[19:51:52] <brutser> trek00: i was mistaken, the
/dev/mapper/luksroot is created on the temporary expert installer
from debian, this is not available on the target system..duuh,
stupid
2153[19:52:08] <brutser> still no solution though, i have one
single disk encrypted, no lvm
2154[19:52:14] <brutser> still no idea how to grub config that
2155[19:52:35] <brutser> i am thinking to just use lvm because of
all the examples out there that all are using lvm
2164[19:55:46] <brutser> trek00: i am not testing without a grub
config, directly from the grub command, cryptomount decrypt fine the
hdd, set root=crypto0 works fine too > "ls /" show the
root of the system now
2178[19:59:10] <trek00> brutser: usually on debian you configure
/etc/crypttab on the root partition, then update-initramfs should
take that file and put it inside the initrd
2189[20:02:00] <trek00> brutser: i think grub only decrypt the
root partition to read kernel and initrd, then you need initrd to
decrypt again that partition
2190[20:02:25] <brutser> aah yes i think that's correct
2191[20:02:45] <brutser> brrrrrrr how my brain forget things over
and over again
2192[20:03:08] <brutser> ok, restart, reboot and i get to it
again
2193[20:03:17] <trek00> brutser: :D
2194[20:03:18] <brutser> thx
2195[20:03:30] <trek00> brutser: hope this will fix it :)
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2200[20:06:40] <lwp> VinPop, where do you click connect ? Did you
install some Desktop environment like gnome or KDE or XFCE or
something ? what other choices can you click ? what error messages
do you see ?
2201[20:07:36] <VinPop> i installed Cinnamon and i click connect
in the internet panel, other choice is settings where i can change
properties of the connection, and there is no error message, all it
says is "Connection failed"
2214[20:15:19] <greycat> *What* domain name? That is an
incredibly overused term. Do you mean the default search domain
that's added to hostnames when you do DNS queries?
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2255[20:49:36] <Dev0n> hey, is it possible to partition an
existing drive (from the unused space) and then run luks encyrption
on that partition *without* rebooting to set this all up?
2262[20:51:23] <phogg> traditionally you reboot to make sure that
everything that should know about partition changes does know about
them. Whether it's actually required depends on whether
everything you need to know figured it out
2264[20:52:38] <phogg> working from a live environment is just
helpful if what you want to resize involves touching an active
partition. It's harder to know which are involved with modern
volume management, but if you're sure you're not messing
with boundaries of anything that's in use you shouldn't
need a live system
2265[20:52:44] <Dev0n> phogg, I don't have an issue with
rebooting and seeing if the partitions worked. I just don't
have a way to take the system offline / mount it and use another
tool to make the partition
2267[20:53:39] <Dev0n> phogg, also it's a brand new system
without nothing on apart from "standard"
2268[20:53:50] <phogg> e.g. if you have sda1 and sdb1 spanning an
entire disk each and they're both added PVs which are in VGs
which back LVs which are mounted, then you can't touch anything
without live/rescue media
2269[20:54:10] <phogg> but if they each span only half their
disks and you're playing with the free space, you're fine
2270[20:54:18] <Dev0n> I have a /dev/sda and 1 /dec/sda1
2284[20:57:48] <phogg> Dev0n: you should installed the parted
package for its partprobe tool. This isn't the same as
rebooting, but you'll have better chances success with
partition changes if you use it.
2285[20:58:07] <Dev0n> ah thanks for the tip phogg!
2294[21:02:01] <zodd> is there an API doc to python-apt? (I would
like to query existence of a package and to query a
configfile(location) of that package)
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2306[21:08:36] <zodd> miskatonic, /usr/share/doc/python-apt does
only contain changezlog.gz and copyright files. The projects
homepage does not contain docs afaik and in the source I could not
find any too
2307[21:08:46] <Dev0n> phogg, looking more into this (maybe I
didn't ask my question properly), it seems you can't
resize and existing partition that's mounted?
2309[21:09:13] <Dev0n> os if I have a 100gb drive, that has 1
partition / of 100gb, it's not possible to resize this down to
say, 50gb and create a new partition with 50gb, all live?
2310[21:09:20] <phogg> Dev0n: you probably can't reduce the
size (either can't or must do it carefully) but you may well be
able to increase the size.
2311[21:09:29] <phogg> it gets tricky depending on what's on
top of it
2312[21:09:35] <Dev0n> ahh damn
2313[21:09:56] <phogg> Dev0n: first you have to shrink the
filesystem within the partition. Most don't support online
shrink. Some don't support shrink at all.
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2315[21:10:44] <Dev0n> ext4, guess online shrink it's not
possible
2316[21:10:52] <Dev0n> oh well, there goes that, thanks again
phogg
2322[21:12:26] <hansol> people, i dont have sound only sound i
have is when i turn on headphones
2323[21:13:13] <jhutchins> Dev0n: Here's the thing: If
you're messing with partitions, you need to have a backup of
your data anyway. That said, it's pretty simple to back up,
repartition, and restore.
2335[21:25:23] <miskatonic> zodd in a python3 interactive
session, import apt and then help(apt) gives a brief summary of teh
classes implemented in teh module and their methods
2482[23:08:59] <trek00> Dev0n: may be you can shutdown, then
clone the root partition, then restart, add the cloned partition,
shrink it, shutdown, remove root partition and restart! :)
2486[23:09:56] <Dev0n> hah trek00, unfortunately it's an
onsite system not on any cloud platform, I'm just going to wait
until someone is available to do it onsite :(
2490[23:11:32] <trek00> Dev0n: well no online shrink, only expand
2491[23:12:13] <trek00> Dev0n: it is usually better to have
multiple partitions to deal with those issues, so you can run with
only the root partition mounted and resize the others
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2537[23:20:18] <Dev0n> yea, it would be, but at that point,
someone will physically be there so they could just load a live
system up
2538[23:20:55] <nvz> R0b0t1`: well you just gotta know what you
wanna do.. you can hook it to a device, a driver, anything in the
kernel then just have it run a script.. I prob don't have many
udev rules on here but I can look
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2540[23:21:57] <nvz> R0b0t1`: for example here is one for my
trackpoint to set the drift time.. ACTION==add, SUBSYSTEM=input,
ATTR{name}==TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint, ATTR{device/drift_time}=90
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2542[23:22:23] <R0b0t1`> hmm, ok, I'll try to see what
GadgetFS does
2543[23:22:35] <trek00> if it's not tied to any hardware may
be it should be better to have an init script/sytemd oneshot
2544[23:23:07] <nvz> R0b0t1`: here is one that cam with
virtualbox
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2545[23:23:52] <HelloShitty> Hello everyone. Anyone can help me
figuring out why my xsane cannot see my wireless scanner, which is
an HP Deskjet 3070A ?
2546[23:24:00] <R0b0t1`> haha that's perfect I think nvz
2547[23:24:08] <HelloShitty> I can see the printer conencted to
my router and I can print documents
2548[23:24:09] <R0b0t1`> hard to find specific words sometimes
for the options
2549[23:24:28] <HelloShitty> but I cannot use xsane because it
says that cannot find the scanner
2583[23:34:29] <HelloShitty> I'm not sure about the URI
links
2584[23:34:29] <trek00> HelloShitty: avahi-daemon is running?
2585[23:34:30] <R0b0t1`> okay, that worked, but also didn't
2586[23:35:06] <HelloShitty> hum, ahavi-deamon? I'll try
with ps aux | grep "avahi-deamon" ???
2587[23:35:37] <HelloShitty> I can find 2 instances
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2589[23:36:06] <HelloShitty> You want me to paste it?
2590[23:38:24] <trek00> HelloShitty: no it's ok
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2592[23:38:50] <trek00> R0b0t1`: if it's not tied to any
hardware may be it should be better to have an init script/sytemd
oneshot
2593[23:38:57] <HelloShitty> I have these 2 files in ~/.sane
folder
2594[23:39:23] <R0b0t1`> trek00: I think you are right, the udev
rule seems to apply too early. I get a kernel panic but know the
configfs setup I provided works.
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2625[23:49:30] <HelloShitty> ok, thanks man... I came here
because I'm kind of in a rush because my aughter is having
classes online and I'm not being able to scan documents of her
assignments to send them to her teacher
2626[23:50:12] <HelloShitty> I think I'm going to restart my
laptop... Probably it won't help but who knows
2627[23:50:27] <trek00> HelloShitty: there is no usb cable i
guess
2628[23:50:32] <HelloShitty> I alsp found this file in
~/.sane/xsane