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0 [00:00:02] <jackweb> Hello. I have already installed Debian
stable. Is it possible to install gcc>5 on Jessie? I have only
tried to add repository from stretch in order to install gcc-5, but
it wanted to upgrade too many other packages - I did not allow. Is
there any way to have quite recent compiler on stable?
1 [00:00:31] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, it works!
2 [00:01:28] <jmcnaught> jackweb: mixing stable and
testing/stretch breaks your system, or upgrades it to stretch.
probably your best bet is to use gcc5 in a stretch chroot or
container
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6 [00:02:50] <iSlayWyverns> Debian is a stable branch or
rolling release?
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12 [00:03:49] <jmcnaught> iSlayWyverns: Debian Stable (currently
Jessie) is a stable branch. There are the development branches
testing and unstable, but they're primarily for developing the
next release
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17 [00:04:39] <iSlayWyverns> jmcnaught, a stable release is
every... ?
18 [00:04:48] <jackweb> jmcnaught, thanks for the answer.
I'll read about Linux containers
19 [00:05:17] <jmcnaught> iSlayWyverns: on average every two
years. there is also a backports repository with select newer
packages for the stable release
20 [00:05:40] <cluelessperson> jmcnaught, thanks :D
21 [00:05:50] <jmcnaught> cluelessperson: you're welcome :)
22 [00:06:06] <jackweb> jmcnaught, you mean:
replaced-url
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24 [00:06:17] <vl420> jmcnaught, how can i list the web browsers
that backports repository has?
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27 [00:06:44] <jmcnaught> jackweb: consider checking out
schroot, you can configure it so unprivileged users can start the
chroot, and it can use your /home etc
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29 [00:08:26] <jmcnaught> vl420:
replaced-url
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32 [00:09:59] <jmcnaught> jackweb: LXC is one way you can have
an isolated stretch installed on your system, but it might be more
tricky to integrate with wherever you keep your source. presumably
you want to use an editor/IDE in jessie to write stuff
33 [00:10:07] <markybob> vl420: you should probably look at
replaced-url
34 [00:10:34] <vl420> jmcnaught, what percentage of packages on
jessie are not covered by the security team?
35 [00:10:55] <jackweb> jmcnaught, ok. so i'll try with
schroot and debootstrap
36 [00:11:03] <jmcnaught> vl420:
replaced-url
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42 [00:12:35] <jmcnaught> vl420: honestly i think your best
option is to use iceweasel/firefox with only a handful of add-ons
like noscript and requestpolicy (both available as packages in
debian). avoid using adblockplus, it can slow things down quite a
bit
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44 [00:15:34] <ElTimo> jmcnaught, ublock origin is quite light.
45 [00:15:43] <ElTimo> Substantially moreso than ABP.
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62 [00:20:33] <vl420> jmcnaught, thanks
63 [00:21:15] <jackweb> jmcnaught, THANKS for the help with
schroot :) it's amazing!
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73 [00:27:35] <jmcnaught> vl420: jackweb: cheers :)
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81 [00:33:06] <ElTimo> vl420, Which drivers are you using?
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83 [00:33:19] <ElTimo> You'll probably have some trouble
getting 3D acceleration on something that old.
84 [00:33:43] <vl420> ElTimo, the ones that are installed by
default on jessie
85 [00:33:55] <ElTimo> So nouveau, then. One sec.
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89 [00:35:18] <g00se> Using a vpn then stopping it is leaving me
with borked DNS. How can i reset it so that names on my LAN are
resolved properly? Am using NetworkManager
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117 [00:46:49] <vl420> ElTimo, are you there?
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120 [00:47:34] <ElTimo> Sorry vl420, I'm at work, but yeah.
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127 [00:50:10] <ElTimo> You could try installing NVidia's
proprietary drivers, but I don't know if they go back that far.
128 [00:50:22] <ElTimo> OH! That's right, they do.
There's legacy drivers in the repos. One sec.
129 [00:51:36] <TomTomTosch> ye, even the legacy drivers
don't go that far back.
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138 [00:54:08] <bluefive> Hello.
139 [00:54:20] <bluefive> Can you quickly help me determine if I
have my home dir encrypted using ecryptfs?
140 [00:54:32] <bluefive> Anything I can type in the command line
to tell me?
141 [00:54:39] <vl420> ElTimo, TomTomTosch : thanks
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143 [00:54:49] <ElTimo> TomTomTosch, That's what I was
afraid of. The GeForce 4000 series is barely recognizable as a GPU
compared to what we have today.
144 [00:55:02] <ElTimo> It's got like...one shader. And it
was a big deal.
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186 [01:19:16] <job1> can someone point me to a list of debian
offial repos
187 [01:19:39] <job1> sorry official
188 [01:19:46] <TomTomTosch> job1, point >>
replaced-url
189 [01:19:57] <job1> thanks
190 [01:20:24] <socomm> job1: Check your /etc/apt/sources.list
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197 [01:25:27] <movic> hi guys
198 [01:25:54] <movic> i have problem with debian on raspberrypi,
anyone here who can help?
199 [01:27:09] <TomTomTosch> debian on rpi or raspbian?
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201 [01:27:40] <movic> raspbian
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203 [01:28:25] <TomTomTosch> movic, then you will have better
luck asking #raspbian
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205 [01:29:07] <de-facto> how does a child program of sshd (e.g.
bash) determine its terminal dimensions (rows, cols)?
206 [01:29:35] <zinx> terminfo / termcap
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208 [01:30:15] <de-facto> how does that work? does it send
something over the wire to the other end of the ssh connection where
the rendering terminal sits?
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211 [01:31:50] <de-facto> im interessted in resizing
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251 [01:51:52] <phorce1> So, what's the oldest kernel a
Debian LiveCD has been created for? I have an old K6 with 32MB of
RAM that I need to copy files off of and I can't find my
IDE-->USB adapter cable to yank the drive out and do it that way.
And I haven't found a USB stick it will accept without drivers
(it has no ethernet).
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276 [02:04:12] <NyanCat> HI all, I'm trying to access the
Wiki and it won't work
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278 [02:04:23] <NyanCat> It's just telling me that I
don't have permission to read it
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299 [02:15:17] <jmcnaught> NyanCat: still having wiki trouble?
it's working for me
300 [02:15:31] <NyanCat> Yes I am
301 [02:15:44] <NyanCat> "Forbidden <p>You are not
allowed to access this!</p>"
302 [02:16:00] <jmcnaught> NyanCat: you're going here?
replaced-url
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304 [02:16:28] <NyanCat>
replaced-url
305 [02:16:30] <NyanCat> @ jmcnaught
306 [02:17:18] <NyanCat> when i visited debian.org i was
redirected to some image
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309 [02:17:43] <NyanCat> oh whoops, that would be because i went
to debiam
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311 [02:17:48] <NyanCat> but thats the right URL
312 [02:18:20] <xbytemx> hi I have a grep question, I want to
grep all coincidence of "172\.16" but ignore all
"172\.16\.70\.254" and show -A 2 -B 2
313 [02:18:46] <jmcnaught> NyanCat: are you behind some sort of
corporate/free-wifi firewall? i suppose you could ask in #debian-replaced-url
314 [02:19:00] <NyanCat> My IP will say Amanah
315 [02:19:05] <NyanCat> most likely
316 [02:19:07] <RoyK> xbytemx: perhaps use awk or perl or
something instead
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320 [02:20:05] <RoyK> xbytemx: or just blah | grep
'172\.16' | grep -v '172\.16\.70\.254'
321 [02:20:10] <NyanCat> jmcnaught: the short answer is yes
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324 [02:20:40] <jmcnaught> NyanCat: i don't know what Amanah
is, but the problem is probably at your end if it works for me
325 [02:20:51] <RoyK> xbytemx: use awk
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327 [02:21:14] <xbytemx> RoyK: I will search how to do it on awk,
thanks
328 [02:21:58] <jmcnaught> RoyK: hey i noticed one of your long
response yesterday seemed truncated and figured i should mention it
because it used to happen to me and nobody said anything for a long
time
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333 [02:23:37] <RoyK> jmcnaught: no idea
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343 [02:26:14] <ericandrewlewis> hi, i'm looking to install
debian as a dual boot on my mac via a usb stick. the MANIFEST file
lists a lot of image options…
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345 [02:26:26] <ericandrewlewis> which should I use?
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347 [02:27:50] <jmcnaught> ericandrewlewis: use the netinst
installer image. do not use a live image if you want UEFI support to
work
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352 [02:28:50] <ericandrewlewis> I don't see a netinst in
this list —
replaced-url
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354 [02:29:30] <ericandrewlewis> perhaps netboot installer?
355 [02:29:37] <jmcnaught> ericandrewlewis:
replaced-url
356 [02:29:49] <markybob> ericandrewlewis: i'd use the
firmware installer.
replaced-url
357 [02:30:19] <jmcnaught> ericandrewlewis: it's also
recommend to check the install manual:
replaced-url
358 [02:32:00] <ericandrewlewis> markybob: what's the
difference between the firmare installer and the netboot installer?
359 [02:32:36] <markybob> ericandrewlewis: the firmware installer
comes with firmware images in it so you don't have to deal with
pesky wifi and such. makes it easier.
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362 [02:33:34] <jmcnaught> ericandrewlewis: that netboot iso is
for booting with PXE over a network, and it doesn't have UEFI
support. the firmware iso that markybob recommended is a good
suggestion
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369 [02:36:21] <ghostboy33> im getting file -s /dev/sdb
370 [02:36:21] <ghostboy33> /dev/sdb: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem
data 'WIN_7_ULT_SP1_EN-US_MARCH_X64' (bootable)
371 [02:36:39] <ghostboy33> my laptop is unable to find it when
im trying to boot from USB
372 [02:37:13] <ghostboy33> I copied the .iso with dd directly
onto /dev/sdb
373 [02:37:18] <jmcnaught> ghostboy33: maybe you meant to join
#windows ?
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377 [02:38:37] <jmcnaught> ghostboy33: that trick works with
Debian images because they are specially prepared hybrid images. To
make a bootable Windows USB stick you'd be better off asking a
Windows channel
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380 [02:39:07] <Slimmy> hey guys. How can I get the
add-apt-repository command?
381 [02:39:41] <markybob> Slimmy: software-properties-common
382 [02:40:04] <Slimmy> thank you markybob
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385 [02:40:16] <phorce1> ghostboy33: unetbootin on your Debian
box *might* work to create the bootable Win CD but I've had it
fail as often as work ... using the same image every time.
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402 [02:54:46] <NyanCat> jmcnaught: So it looks like the VPN is
to blame
403 [02:54:52] <NyanCat> but... that's kind of stupid
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405 [02:55:06] <NyanCat> Do they literally go "oh, it looks
like a proxy IP" and block it?
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409 [02:56:17] <jmcnaught> NyanCat: i don't know, but
it's possible they were getting a lot of abuse or vandalism
from that IP range.
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417 [03:00:09] * phorce1 notes that it takes a *WHILE* to "cp
-a" about 3GB of files from IDE to USB on an old K6 (400 MHz)
with 32 MB of RAM
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668 [05:55:02] <Antares> Где Комета?
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688 [06:12:24] <simonlnu> !ru
689 [06:12:25] <dpkg> Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста,
говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian
(irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian)
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710 [06:32:31] <flaf_> Hi ;). If I reboot a Debian Jessie in the
recovery mode, the filesystem / is mounted rw, not read-only (ro).
Is it normal? How can I have a _ro_ recovery boot?
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778 [07:17:48] <askb> hi anyone know the differences between
grub2 menuentry for the "debian friendly" and ubuntu way,
esp when setting the root=UUID
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802 [07:46:20] <jim> Antares is known to ##linux as a russian
spammer
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804 [07:46:59] <Antares> vk.com international site
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806 [07:47:50] <jim> as you can see, he has no qualms in
advertising his site
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813 [07:54:34] <k0nsl> lol.
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818 [07:56:14] <k0nsl> to be fair I posted a link in here just a
few minutes ago, but I thought it would be a somewhat okay practice
as it relates to the subject.
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820 [07:56:42] <k0nsl> (being about a Debian mirror and all)
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822 [07:57:44] <askb> hi anyone know the differences between
grub2 menuentry for the "debian friendly" and ubuntu way,
esp when setting the root=UUID
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878 [08:26:06] <cerealkiller> hey guys, I messed up my
synaptics.conf file in X11/xorg.conf.d , if I delete it will it
create a new one? since it has a parse error and my DE wont start
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884 [08:34:15] <cauliflower> Hi!
885 [08:34:26] <cauliflower> What's the equivalent of
ipconfig/all in Debian?
886 [08:34:37] <markedsea> ip address?
887 [08:34:42] <scardinal> ifconfig -a
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889 [08:36:22] <cauliflower> Ain't there
890 [08:36:27] <cauliflower> Ain't in the repo too
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893 [08:37:07] <cauliflower> ifconfig isn't in my system,
neither is it in the repo
894 [08:37:21] <jelly> cauliflower: "ip a", then
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896 [08:37:39] <sypher> cauliflower: That's because its been
deprecated for years.
897 [08:37:42] <cauliflower> Ah
898 [08:37:45] <cauliflower> Ok
899 [08:37:56] <cauliflower> Sorry new to these Free Software
things
900 [08:38:13] <jelly> cauliflower: as for ifconfig, perhaps you
just don't have /sbin in PATH (it's not in the default
user PATH)
901 [08:38:14] <sypher> cauliflower: Check out the "ip"
and "ss" commands.
902 [08:38:16] <askb> Hey anyone will to help with ^^^
903 [08:38:34] <ramix> cauliflower: sudo ifconfig
904 [08:38:36] <scardinal> cauliflower: It's in the
net-tools package... but you can also just use ip ad
905 [08:39:10] <sypher> scardinal: s/can also just/should
906 [08:39:14] <askb> I am trying to understand the differences
between grub2 menuentry for a "debian friendly" and ubuntu
way, esp when setting the root=UUID, I guess root=* is set only once
in debian, not sure why its being set twice in ubuntu?
907 [08:39:15] <cauliflower> Thanks!
908 [08:39:21] <askb> can any one help please
909 [08:39:40] <scardinal> sypher: guess that depends on your
preference
910 [08:39:48] <cauliflower> Which one is my IP here?
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911 [08:39:51] <cauliflower> And my MAC?
912 [08:39:55] <sypher> scardinal: No, it doesn't. One is
maintained, the other is not.
913 [08:40:31] <scardinal> sypher: so? Whatever gets the job
done. It works now that's what I need.
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916 [08:41:27] <jelly> askb: there are relevant tunables in
/etc/default/grub, too; debian adds root=uuidstuff to every entry by
default, too, I think. (can't confirm because I always disable
that and use lvm LV path instead)
917 [08:41:30] <sypher> scardinal: Fine, then you can use tools
that should have gone away in 2009. That's on you. Here, we
direct people to use the correct toolsets, not "what
works."
918 [08:41:35] <cauliflower> Ah it's inet
919 [08:42:03] <scardinal> sypher: Thank you.
920 [08:42:17] <jelly> cauliflower: the stuff following
link/ether is MAC of that interface
921 [08:42:22] <sypher> And the correct toolset for 2016 is the
iproute2 toolset.
922 [08:42:33] <scardinal> sypher: yes.. in your opinion..
923 [08:42:53] <sypher> scardinal: No, in the net-tools
maintainers opinion seven years ago.
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924 [08:43:11] <sypher> scardinal: So, there's that. Move
on.
925 [08:43:34] <scardinal> sypher: why don't you take a
chill pill..
926 [08:44:12] <sypher> cauliflower: It helps to understand
"layers" when reading the output. Link = L2 address = MAC.
inet = L3 address = IP.
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928 [08:44:15] <askb> jelly, hi, is this same in ubuntu, coz my
understanding it "root=" is set twice in the list, of the
menuentry in ubuntu, but not in the case of debian. I am trying to
figure out why
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932 [08:44:52] <cauliflower> jelly: Oh ok thanks! scardinal too!
933 [08:44:57] <askb> since, ubuntu is deb based why this
difference
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936 [08:47:52] <jelly> askb: you'll have to ask them
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938 [08:48:20] <askb> jelly, :)
939 [08:48:29] <cauliflower> sypher: Sorry for asking but could
you tell me what the equivalent of ipconfig/renew is?
940 [08:48:36] <sypher> askb: Likely because Ubuntu uses a
different init system than Debian. upstart vs systemd. It's
possible that upstart uses different parameters when passed from
boot. But that's highly offtopic. :P
941 [08:48:49] <sypher> cauliflower: To renew a DHCP lease, you
mean?
942 [08:48:57] <jelly> init system doesn't have a lot to do
with creating grub.cfg
943 [08:48:59] <cauliflower> Probably
944 [08:49:12] <cauliflower> Yeah I think so
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946 [08:49:17] <sypher> jelly: Just theorizing on why they'd
be different.
947 [08:50:22] <sypher> cauliflower: There are a number of ways
to do it in Debian. One way that I know of is to bring down the
interface and bring it back up. ifdown eth0/ifup eth0.
948 [08:50:39] <sypher> cauliflower: To do it without bringing
down the interface, you could use dhclient -r eth0/dhclient eth0.
949 [08:50:43] <askb> jelly, sypher - this is happening with deb
- jessie
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952 [08:51:12] <jelly> askb: what is?
953 [08:51:21] <askb> sypher, jelly - are there any pointer you
would provide where to start while looking at the diffirence
954 [08:51:26] <cauliflower> I don't have dhclient installed
nor in my repos.
955 [08:51:47] <flaf_> Hello, if I reboot a Debian Jessie in the
recovery mode, the filesystem / is mounted rw, not read-only (ro)?
Is it normal? How can I have a _ro_ recovery boot?
956 [08:51:49] <sypher> cauliflower: You probably do, but the
PATH for it isn't exposed to normal users. sudo first.
957 [08:52:00] <sypher> sudo dhclient ...
958 [08:52:33] <cauliflower> Hmm
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960 [08:52:39] <sypher> cauliflower: Assuming you have sudo
installed, of course. Otherwise, "su".
961 [08:52:41] <askb> jelly, oh sorry - i meant the diff in
debian 8/jessie, and any suggestion you could shed on where to look
if I need to dig into the souce ...
962 [08:52:53] <askb> unfortunatly, not very family with source
963 [08:53:20] <jelly> askb: diff between what and what? Pastebin
your /boot/grub/grub.cfg and point out what you think is incorrect?
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965 [08:54:06] <cauliflower> sypher: Then I should run ip a again
to check to see if my ip is different now right?
966 [08:54:19] <meseira> hi all
967 [08:54:26] <jelly> askb: you probably want to look at what
update-grub / grub-mkconfig commands do, and their config under
/etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/
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969 [08:54:42] <cauliflower> My ip did not change
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971 [08:54:53] <cauliflower> I'm looking at the wlan
interface
972 [08:55:05] <meseira> I have a Brother printer (DCP7040) that
I can not make work in Jessie
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975 [08:56:19] <meseira> according to the infos given by
Brother's website, what i did in previous version of Debian,
was to install ia32-libs to make theirplugin work
976 [08:56:44] <sypher> cauliflower: It probably won't. The
lease is likely still active on the other end, so it'll just
give you the same IP, depending on what you entered.
977 [08:57:15] <meseira> s/plugin/driver/
978 [08:57:20] <cauliflower> What if I just use the first
command? Which requires bringing down stuff and getting it back up
again?
979 [08:57:24] <meseira> ia32-libs desappeared for multi-arch and
I can not make the Brother driver work
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983 [08:58:37] <askb> jelly, sure its here for ubuntu
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984 [08:58:38] <meseira> I have properly added i386 architecture
and libc6:i386 is installed (and also lib32stdc++6)
985 [08:58:41] <askb> would you could share info from
/etc/default/grub and the first menuentry in grub.cfg
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987 [08:59:10] <meseira> in a nutshell, is there someone here who
has a working Brother printer in Debian Jessie?
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991 [09:01:38] <jelly> askb: I see only one root= parameter in
the linux lines.
992 [09:01:40] <cerealkill3r> Hey guys, i messed up my
synaptics.conf and now my laptop wont boot into a DE , when I run
startx it says k have a parse error in synaptica
993 [09:01:50] <cerealkill3r> *synaptics
994 [09:02:44] <askb> jelly, you mean in the debian menuentry ?
995 [09:03:14] <jelly> askb: in your paste.
996 [09:03:18] <askb> jelly, could you please update the pastebin
with what you see?
997 [09:03:50] <jelly> meseira: no, but you probably want to find
the binaries used for the driver, run "ldd
/path/to/said/binary" then figure out what it's missing
and install the relevant :i386 packages
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999 [09:04:10] <jelly> askb: I don't see anything wrong
there. What fails to work for you?
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1001 [09:05:25] <cauliflower> sypher: Followed this but my IP is
still the same:
replaced-url
1002 [09:05:41] <jelly> askb: do you have a dual boot system, or
what? Where's your own debian installation?
1003 [09:05:58] <sypher> cauliflower: It likely well will be.
1004 [09:06:16] <askb> ok, noting fails, but some provisioning
issue we have which work with ubuntu but fails on deb and I am
trying to figure it out sadly with limited info
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1006 [09:06:29] <sypher> cauliflower: You will continue to have
the same IP until the IP address lease (DHCP lease) at your ISP
expires.
1007 [09:06:35] <cauliflower> Ah
1008 [09:06:36] <cauliflower> lol
1009 [09:06:44] * cauliflower wonder when that will be
1010 [09:06:56] <sypher> cauliflower: Or, if you're getting
an IP from your router, when the lease in your router expires.
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1012 [09:07:07] <sypher> cauliflower: Anywhere from minutes to
over a week, depending on the ISP/router configuration.
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1014 [09:07:40] <askb> I dont have access to my deb8 atm, if you
dont mind sharing or point to a link which has the correct info
1015 [09:07:46] <askb> jelly, ^^
1016 [09:07:59] <sypher> cauliflower: Further complicating the
matter is that your client will, typically, renew the lease halfway
to expiry, so the lease will continue to exist until the device is
offline for long enough for the lease to expire.
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1018 [09:08:21] <cauliflower> sypher: Ah
1019 [09:10:13] <cauliflower> sypher: ipconfig/renew gives you a
new IP right?
1020 [09:10:24] <sypher> cauliflower: ... No. For the reason I
stated above.
1021 [09:10:37] <sypher> cauliflower: If there is an active lease,
you'll just get the same IP right back, because it's
associated to you already.
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1023 [09:10:52] <cauliflower> Ah
1024 [09:11:03] <cauliflower> If it expires, you get a new one
1025 [09:11:13] <sypher> cauliflower: Correct. But if it
hasn't expired yet, you'll get the same one back.
1026 [09:11:16] <cauliflower> So ipconfig/renew is something you
could use to hopefully get a new IP right?
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1028 [09:11:49] <sypher> cauliflower: Yes, but it very rarely
results in a new IP, because lease.
1029 [09:11:56] <cauliflower> Ah
1030 [09:12:00] <cauliflower> Got it
1031 [09:13:01] <jelly> askb: I don't have a default setup so
it's not really relevant.
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1034 [09:14:20] <cluelessperson> Why is debian's file
structure so annoying and spread out?
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1036 [09:14:44] <cluelessperson> /usr/local/share What does that
mean? /var/ ? /var/lib ? /etc/ ?
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1040 [09:16:31] <ramix> /etc/ is a configuration dedicated
directory
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1042 [09:16:38] <askb> jelly, oh you mean you dont have deb8 atm
...
1043 [09:16:57] <cluelessperson> ramix, Why not have a root
configuration directory?
1044 [09:17:04] <cluelessperson> ramix, /config
1045 [09:17:18] <sypher> cluelessperson: That's what /etc/
is.
1046 [09:17:28] <cluelessperson> sypher, What's etc stand
for?
1047 [09:17:40] <jelly> !fhs
1048 [09:17:40] <dpkg> Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy
Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application.
This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a
read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See
replaced-url
1049 [09:17:46] <jelly> cluelessperson: ^^ read those
1050 [09:18:03] <sypher> cluelessperson: Also, Google is your
friend. The internet has this documented and explained ad nauseam.
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1054 [09:19:24] <jelly> askb: I mean my own crazy grub config is
not something I'd show you and make you wrongly think it's
the norm
1055 [09:19:58] <sypher> askb: Hold on, I've got a Debian 8
VM somewhere on my vSphere cluster that I haven't dinked with.
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1058 [09:20:14] <askb> jelly, not your systems ... i from the wiki
for a spare test setup, sorry, I was not clear
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1061 [09:21:20] <jelly> askb: I have no idea what you mean.
What's your native language?
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1066 [09:22:13] <sypher> askb: Which file are you looking for
exactly.
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1068 [09:22:24] <askb> jelly, not from your pc, I through you
could direct me to wiki page quickly or from a spare test setup/vm,
sorry, I was not clear, yes my first language is not english, please
bear with me
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1071 [09:23:05] <askb> sypher, '/etc/default/grub' and
possibly the grub menuentry of debian8
1072 [09:24:00] <sypher> askb: /etc/default/grub:
replaced-url
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1074 [09:24:10] <sypher> askb: /boot/grub/grub.cfg:
replaced-url
1075 [09:24:57] <askb> sypher, both link are blocked, can you
please put it on a paste bin ?
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1077 [09:25:32] <sypher> askb: Why would they be blocked?
Accessing from work or something?
1078 [09:26:02] <askb> no ideas :(
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1080 [09:26:39] <jelly> askb: can you access paste.debian.net
1081 [09:26:46] <askb> sypher, please ignore its working through
the vpn now
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1086 [09:28:24] <askb> jelly, yup i can
1087 [09:28:40] <askb> sorry guys its still not working, my bad
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1089 [09:29:26] <meseira> jelly: thanks for the advice but I
don't see what dep could be missing... For the several binaries
that come with Brother's driver, I get linux-gate.so.1,
libc.so.6 and /lib/ld-linux.so.2
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1091 [09:29:49] <meseira> I think that all of them are
satisfied...
1092 [09:30:29] <meseira> One more dep is libbrcomplpr2.so but
symbolic link for it is properly set by the Brother's package
1093 [09:30:51] <jelly> meseira: does the driver come in a
package? Are you sure you looked at all the ELF binary files it
contains?
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1096 [09:31:34] <jelly> meseira: what about that libbrcomplpr2.so
itself?
1097 [09:32:07] <meseira> jelly: yes, the driver come in two
packages (LPR+cupswrapper). All the binaries listed with 'dpkg
-L' have been checked
1098 [09:32:50] <meseira> # ls -l /usr/lib32/libbrcomplpr2.so
1099 [09:32:51] <meseira> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Mar 25 21:53
/usr/lib32/libbrcomplpr2.so -> /usr/lib/libbrcomplpr2.so
1100 [09:33:14] <meseira> # ls -l /usr/lib/libbrcomplpr2.so
1101 [09:33:14] <meseira> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 53606 Jan 25 2008
/usr/lib/libbrcomplpr2.so
1102 [09:33:35] <jelly> meseira: and "ldd
/usr/lib/libbrcomplpr2.so" says everything is present?
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1104 [09:34:13] <meseira> # ldd /usr/lib/libbrcomplpr2.so
1105 [09:34:13] <meseira> linux-gate.so.1 (0xf7780000)
1106 [09:34:13] <meseira> libc.so.6 =>
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xf75bd000)
1107 [09:34:13] <meseira> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf7783000)
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1109 [09:34:14] <jelly> 2008, oh my
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1112 [09:34:47] <meseira> jelly: arf, banned... but back
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1118 [09:35:31] <meseira> jelly: so, yes, everything seems to be
here for libbrcomplpr2.so (it comes with Brother's LPR package)
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1120 [09:36:24] <jelly> they should probably get on with the
times... lpr and a custom wrapper to make cups work?
1121 [09:37:04] <jelly> and binaries from 2008, something was
bound to break sooner or later
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1123 [09:37:26] <meseira> jelly: I know, that is a shame to
provide such a thing in 2016
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1126 [09:37:49] <meseira> jelly: but this is the Brother's
way and it is not open source
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1128 [09:38:16] <jelly> maybe you can connect the thing to a 32bit
debian 7 or 6 installation and share the printer via cups
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1131 [09:39:29] <meseira> jelly: this is what I plan but prefer to
avoid... I don't want to throw this printer and my print server
is already in use
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1133 [09:39:46] <meseira> for other printer (and it is amd64
Debian Jessie)
1134 [09:40:30] <meseira> jelly: but if this driver continue to
break my balls, I think about moving everything to x86 Debian
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1149 [09:51:10] <cauliflower> Hi!
1150 [09:51:23] <cauliflower> I have a homework to make a CD
toolkit to make my computer run efficiently
1151 [09:51:59] <cauliflower> It requires software such as
firewall, antivirus, spyware checker, file shredder and duplicate
file finder.
1152 [09:52:18] <cauliflower> I already have bleachbit, duff and
wireshark
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1154 [09:54:30] <cauliflower> I believe they belong to duplicate
file finder and file shredder.
1155 [09:54:44] <cauliflower> So I'm missing firewall,
antivirus and spyware checker
1156 [09:54:50] <cauliflower> Oh, I forgot clamav :D
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1158 [09:54:55] <cauliflower> Ok I already have antivirus
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1194 [10:13:39] <sypher> cauliflower: Do you know what Wireshark
does, and how to use it?
1195 [10:14:00] <sypher> cauliflower: Because I can tell you
don't. :P
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1199 [10:15:49] <Aussie_matt> hi all, can someone point me to the
iso/image I need on my local mirror please? I need the image talked
about on this page
replaced-url
1200 [10:17:24] <markybob> Aussie_matt:
replaced-url
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1206 [10:19:19] <Aussie_matt> markybob: I'll see if i can
find that on my mirror
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1209 [10:19:38] <MaBunny> Hey guys
1210 [10:19:58] <MaBunny> Does the swap space hav to be bootable??
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1212 [10:20:34] <MaBunny> And how do i manually make a partition
swap?
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1214 [10:20:51] <MaBunny> By naming it /swap???
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1219 [10:22:39] <MaBunny> Im installing jessie on my pendrive
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1225 [10:24:19] <MaBunny> Guys???
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1227 [10:25:25] <MaBunny> Is anybody out there?
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1230 [10:26:58] <MaBunny> markybob: you there bro??
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1234 [10:28:36] <MaBunny> Pls help me guys
1235 [10:28:40] <jelly> [circkets]
1236 [10:28:55] <jelly> MaBunny: what fails to work?
1237 [10:29:17] <MaBunny> No,im reinstalling my jessie
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1239 [10:29:43] <MaBunny> I want to kno what to name my swap space
n
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1241 [10:30:03] <jelly> MaBunny: you don't name it at all
1242 [10:30:15] <MaBunny> Ifvto set its flag as bootable
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1244 [10:30:27] <MaBunny> *if to
1245 [10:30:38] <jelly> no need to do that, either
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1247 [10:30:49] <MaBunny> So any name will do??
1248 [10:31:17] <jelly> MaBunny: you don't need a name. Are
you in the installer right now?
1249 [10:31:29] <MaBunny> Ok so what is the command to make swap
1250 [10:31:31] <MaBunny> Yes
1251 [10:31:40] <jelly> are you using guided partitioning?
1252 [10:31:51] <MaBunny> No manual
1253 [10:31:51] <clbk> hello everybody. I have a question about
firefox. I've read that debian repacks an unbranded firefox
calling it 'iceweasel'. That's ok. I'm running
testing and I've found a package called
'firefox-esr'. What's the meaning of this package?
1254 [10:31:58] <MaBunny> I did it b4
1255 [10:33:11] <MaBunny> Should i do guided one??
1256 [10:33:33] <MaBunny> And does it say anything of swap space??
1257 [10:33:55] <Scuttle> anyone know how I can get the debian
installer to ask for a hosname during preseeding? Right now it pulls
host name from dhcp-server
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1263 [10:38:07] <Scuttle> clbk: Debian is renaming iceweasel back
to firefox
1264 [10:38:14] <hailhydra> ok round 2
1265 [10:38:55] <hailhydra> So I installed Debian last night for
the first time in years. I still don't have sound. Can someone
help?
1266 [10:39:16] <MaBunny> Done!!
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1268 [10:39:23] <clbk> Scuttle, oh! I haven't noticed it yet.
Where can I find more informations about that?
1269 [10:39:29] <jelly> MaBunny: figured it out?
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1271 [10:40:19] <Scuttle> clbk:
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1272 [10:40:20] <judd> Bug
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1273 [10:40:22] <MaBunny> Yes
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1275 [10:40:46] <MaBunny> jelly: what is the size of the boot
loader??
1276 [10:41:05] <clbk> Scuttle, thanks a lot and have a nice day
1277 [10:41:10] <clbk> goodbye
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1279 [10:41:18] <MaBunny> I want to hav a separate boot loader
partition
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1281 [10:41:52] <mms_> how do I clean up some old kernels like
wheezy since know I have jessie installed
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1283 [10:42:04] <hailhydra> autoclean
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1285 [10:42:27] <mms_> I have quite a few entries in grub
1286 [10:42:36] <MaBunny> Or is it ok to hav the root and the
bootloader on the same partition??
1287 [10:43:11] <hailhydra> why do some people put their
bootloader on a separate partition? What is the benifit?
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1289 [10:43:18] <MaBunny> Idk
1290 [10:44:00] <MaBunny> Well,it might not corrupt the boot
loader if its read only
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1292 [10:44:19] <MaBunny> And if no one formats it
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1298 [10:45:08] <MaBunny> Ok leave it
1299 [10:45:27] <digdilem> hailhydra, largely for legacy reasons.
when hard drives were small it made sense to have separate
partitions for everything
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1301 [10:45:51] <jelly> MaBunny: most of the boot loader is
outside partitions, a small bit in MBR and a larger part in the
unallocated space between the MBR and the first partition.
1302 [10:45:55] <hailhydra> ok this is weird. I have video
playback on Youtube now but all videos play with no sound and at
like 3x speed, chromium and FF
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1304 [10:47:32] <jelly> hailhydra: maybe they meant a separate
/boot partition. This enables use of older, less capable boot
managers and gives you more options for recovery.
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1307 [10:48:04] <karlpinc> hailhydra: And you can't encrypt
the stuff needed for boot....
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1312 [10:49:26] <hailhydra> Can someone help me with my sound
issue? I have alsa and pulseaudio installed.
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1315 [10:51:31] <hailhydra> when I log in as root I'm not in
the audio group.
1316 [10:51:39] <hailhydra> Do I need to add root to audio group?
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1320 [10:53:03] <hailhydra> If I run speaker-test in root I get
this error
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1326 [10:57:32] <dutchfish> hailhydra, well, you normally
don't run as root, a normal user needs to be member of the
audio group. You could try that, but there are more things you need
to do, basically braking some other things.
1327 [10:57:50] <hailhydra> normal user is in audio group
1328 [10:58:28] <hailhydra> looks like newer intel boards have a
kernel conflict with Realtek ALC887
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1330 [10:58:41] <hailhydra> weird cause this machine works fine in
Ubuntu
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1333 [10:59:12] <hailhydra> I'm reading that I need
alsa-daily
1334 [10:59:18] <dutchfish> hailhydra, look at dmesg output, is
the sound card detected properly?
1335 [11:00:08] <dutchfish> hailhydra, also lspci
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1337 [11:00:52] <dutchfish> hailhydra, what debian are you
running?
1338 [11:01:08] <darsie> cat /etc/debian_version
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1340 [11:01:18] <dutchfish> hailhydra, cat /etc/debian_version
1341 [11:01:25] <hailhydra> 8.3
1342 [11:01:26] <dutchfish> :)
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1344 [11:01:36] <hailhydra> what am I looking for in dmesg ?
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1346 [11:02:10] <dutchfish> hailhydra, errors on your card and if
not what your system 'thinks' your audio card is.
1347 [11:02:12] <hailhydra> its like 843 lines long
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1350 [11:02:55] <dutchfish> hailhydra, lspci | grep Audio
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1353 [11:03:25] <hailhydra> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel
Corporation Device a170 (rev 31)
1354 [11:03:31] <hailhydra> 03:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA
Corporation GK104 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1)
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1357 [11:03:39] <hailhydra> two entires
1358 [11:04:12] <dutchfish> hailhydra, ok, does the first one
match up with your hardware?
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1360 [11:04:49] <hailhydra> I think. Its an Asus board with Intel
chipset
1361 [11:04:57] <dutchfish> hailhydra, if so, you probably need to
roll your own driver
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1366 [11:05:20] <hailhydra> ASUS H170
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1368 [11:05:28] <hailhydra> it worked just fine in ubuntu
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1372 [11:06:15] <hailhydra> But I screwed up Ubuntu by trying to
remove Zeitgeist so I decided to give Debian a go
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1374 [11:07:06] <dutchfish> hailhydra, oh, a sec
1375 [11:07:29] <dutchfish> hailhydra, can you pastebin (not in
here) the output of `pacmd list-cards`
1376 [11:08:12] <hailhydra> Failed to create secure directory
(/run/user/1000/pulse): Permission denied
1377 [11:08:19] <hailhydra> No PulseAudio daemon running, or not
running as session daemon.
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1388 [11:11:39] <hailhydra> lspci -vv says Kernel driver in use:
snd_hda_intel
1389 [11:11:41] <dutchfish> hailhydra, what i gues is happening
that the nvidia audi is mesing up the kernel (prolly by a lack of
driver), either blacklist that or find a blob for your nvidia card
(no idea how to solve that, i dont use nvidia) the intel card should
then work, at least in jessie or higher, my best bet is stretch atm.
Ask other for the nvidia part.
1390 [11:12:16] <dutchfish> yes
1391 [11:13:00] <dutchfish> hailhydra, but pulse audio cant start
because of the embedded audio in that other card
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1393 [11:13:27] <hailhydra> I think its from my graphics cards
HDMI ports
1394 [11:13:33] <dutchfish> yes
1395 [11:13:54] <dutchfish> hailhydra, either try to blacklist
that one or install the nvdia blob
1396 [11:14:03] <hailhydra> maybe I should get a binary from
nvidia
1397 [11:14:20] <dutchfish> hailhydra, i believe thats integrated
in the cards driver software
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1399 [11:15:10] <hailhydra> there are tons of solutions for Ubuntu
but I don't see one for Debian
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1402 [11:15:38] <dutchfish> hailhydra, try blacklisting it, that
shouldnt be hard, just to test if the intel one is then functional
over pulse audio.
1403 [11:15:52] <hailhydra> how do I do that?
1404 [11:16:00] <dutchfish> hailhydra, well, i just told you, how
1405 [11:16:11] <dutchfish> !blacklist
1406 [11:16:11] <dpkg> To blacklist a Linux kernel module,
create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line
similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name".
If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename
/bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'.
IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a
module at installation time, ask me about <installer
blacklist>.
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1412 [11:18:44] <hailhydra> how do I get the module name? I
don't get it
1413 [11:19:10] <teraflops> Lsmod?
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1415 [11:19:15] <dutchfish> hailhydra, either by the logs, or by
looking what is loaded
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1417 [11:21:34] <dutchfish> hailhydra, you could start here to get
the basics and the links in it
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1419 [11:22:22] <hailhydra> there is Nvidia 48 and drm 3 nvidia
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1422 [11:22:48] <dutchfish> hailhydra, i dont know much about
nvidia, you could ask others
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1427 [11:24:46] <hailhydra> is this how Debian alwasy is? I mean
I've done Arch and I've done Gentoo. I don't have a
desire to fiddle with Linux all day. I just need vim and python. And
I thought we were far enough in Linux where we don't have these
problems anymore.
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1430 [11:26:07] <tulphoon> hailhydra, you want to blacklist the
default driver?
1431 [11:26:08] <rudi_s> hailhydra: Well, if you use Debian
stable, you won't have to fiddle with it once it starts working
;-)
1432 [11:26:20] <tulphoon> like GPU one
1433 [11:26:32] <hailhydra> I thought I was on stable?
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1436 [11:27:21] <hailhydra> It looks like Ubuntu had problems with
Intel skylake back in October but when I installed everything worked
out of the box for me.
1437 [11:27:25] <tulphoon> you have to set it up, when you do you
have no morep roblems :)
1438 [11:27:41] <tulphoon> unless you change anythin
1439 [11:27:47] <mintux> when i use tar it returns error tar:
.htaccess: Cannot stat: No such file or directory how can i tell it
skip if doesn't find this file?
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1442 [11:28:43] <teraflops> hailhydra: have you done arch and
gentoo and you don't know how to list loaded modules or
blacklist a single module?
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1446 [11:29:04] <hailhydra> Honestly I switched to Debian becuase
I was having nothing but problems with nodejs on Ubuntu and heard
npm works better on debian. I didn't know I was gonna have to
spend 2 days to get sound working
1447 [11:29:06] <teraflops> Holly cow...
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1449 [11:29:38] <hailhydra> teraflops: I write python and JS all
day. My linux admin skills are next to nothing.
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1451 [11:29:45] <ewew> are you sure you dont have it muted ?
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1453 [11:30:00] <hailhydra> I'm not sure to be honest
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1456 [11:30:22] <hailhydra> alsamixer says 100% on master channel
but i has MM at the bottom
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1458 [11:30:30] <hailhydra> *it has
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1460 [11:31:07] <teraflops> hailhydra: not meant to offend you.
It's just weird
1461 [11:31:31] <hailhydra> oh no offense I'll take any help
or critisism I can
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1465 [11:31:54] <tulphoon> hailhydra, you have it muted then
1466 [11:32:00] <teraflops> Press.space to unmuting things in
alsamixer
1467 [11:32:02] <tugrik> hailhydra: that means that channel is
muted - press the space bar
1468 [11:32:19] <teraflops> Or it was m....
1469 [11:32:28] <teraflops> I don't remember
1470 [11:32:37] <teraflops> Ah space
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1472 [11:34:29] <hailhydra> strange now Youtube videos won't
play again
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1474 [11:34:44] <hailhydra> let me try Firefox
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1476 [11:35:17] <mintux> any idea?
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1479 [11:36:03] <hailhydra> okay we are getting somewhere
1480 [11:36:03] <mintux> tar: .htaccess: Cannot stat: No such file
or directory
1481 [11:36:03] <mintux> tar: Exiting with failure status due to
previous errors
1482 [11:36:05] <Aussie_matt> does anyone know if there is a uefi
32 bit live image?
1483 [11:36:34] <hailhydra> firefox videos play video but still no
sound
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1499 [11:39:58] <hailhydra> Can someone tell me whats the
difference between Ubuntu and Debian?
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1501 [11:40:10] <darsie> Ubuntu is based on debian.
1502 [11:40:29] <bazhang> lots of web tutorials on that hailhydra
1503 [11:40:57] <hailhydra> Is there more hardware supported by
Ubuntu or Debian?
1504 [11:41:33] <darsie> debian is more complete and a good choice
for servers, while Ubuntu is more targeted as desktop OS, IMO.
1505 [11:41:35] <bazhang> mintux, what version of debian
1506 [11:41:46] <r6ku> ubuntu is debian for the masses
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1509 [11:42:39] <hailhydra> r6ku: what is the debain for
developers? I want that one.
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1511 [11:43:22] <darsie> There is no debian for developers. But if
you want to develop debian you can look into debian testing or
unstable.
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1518 [11:43:59] <darsie> If you want to develop on debian install
whatever programming language you want.
1519 [11:44:01] <polyzen> hailhydra, all these questions are
easily answered by your search engine :p
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1521 [11:44:05] <hailhydra> No I already contribute to too many
projects
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1523 [11:44:11] <mintux> bazhang: 6
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1525 [11:44:25] <bazhang> mintux, why so old
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1528 [11:45:01] <bazhang> mintux, what are you trying to do with
tar
1529 [11:45:06] <hailhydra> polyzen: is this not a channel for
debian discussion?
1530 [11:45:17] <mintux> bazhang: its on server i need to tar some
folder some folder has .htaccess some not so it's on script i
need to skip if doesn't find .htaccesss
1531 [11:45:28] <bazhang> hailhydra, thats the debian offtopic
channel
1532 [11:45:34] <bazhang> hailhydra, here is support
1533 [11:45:45] <hailhydra> okay gotcha
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1535 [11:46:17] <bazhang> where'd you get that script mintux
1536 [11:46:30] <mintux> i wrote it
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1544 [11:47:48] <bazhang> mintux, is this some sort of backup
script or what
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1553 [11:49:07] <mintux> bazhang: yes
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1555 [11:49:55] <bazhang> mintux, is there a reason you are not
just using the tools in debian instead of that script
1556 [11:50:36] <bazhang> mintux, you want to backup from where to
where
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1569 [11:54:24] <hailhydra> how do I mount a usb thrumb drive?
1570 [11:54:44] <bazhang> permanently?
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1574 [11:55:40] <hailhydra> just so I can dd a ubuntu image to it
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1584 [11:59:30] <teraflops> hailhydra: if you want to dd an image
to it the drive has to be unmounted
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1597 [12:02:42] <hailhydra> teraflops so how do I unmount it?
1598 [12:02:52] <r6ku> hailhydra: did you try to get a newer
kernel from debian backports?
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1600 [12:03:33] <hailhydra> r6ku: no how do I do that? And is that
gonna fix my sound and video issues?
1601 [12:03:40] <teraflops> hailhydra: lsblk tell you where is
mounted and whatbthe device is. Just unmount it with the umount
command
1602 [12:03:50] <teraflops> Tells*
1603 [12:03:56] <r6ku> hailhydra: newer versions of the linux
kernel have better hardware support, it might
1604 [12:04:07] <hailhydra> how do you guys remember all this
stuff?
1605 [12:04:17] <r6ku> we have good documentation
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1607 [12:04:42] <r6ku> hailhydra:
replaced-url
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1609 [12:05:23] <hailhydra> this desktop is like 80% done I'd
hate to give up on it but 2 days of trying to fix sound is just
costing me money
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1616 [12:06:22] <hailhydra> r6ku: what am I looking for in
backports?
1617 [12:07:25] <r6ku> !bdo kernel
1618 [12:07:25] <dpkg> Newer kernels for Debian stable releases
are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask
me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then
run «aptitude update». To install the current backported
kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install
linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To
list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude
search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian
Backports))'».
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1627 [12:08:41] <hailhydra> looks like I have backports main
contrib and non-free already
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1631 [12:10:55] <hailhydra> why are the newer kernels in
"backports" shouldn't it be in "newports" ?
just sayin'
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1634 [12:11:25] <r6ku> it gets backported from the debian
testing/sid
1635 [12:12:11] <r6ku> wrangled my words there, they software in
backports is from the development branches of debian
1636 [12:12:32] <r6ku> damnit, I need a spellchecker -.-
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1638 [12:13:25] <r6ku> hailhydra: anyway the latest backported
kernel is 4.3, get that and reboot to see if it fixes the audio
problems
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1643 [12:14:45] <hailhydra> I tried sudo aptitude -t
jessie-backports install linux-image-4.3.0.0.bpo.1-amd64
1644 [12:14:51] <hailhydra> and it didn't give me anything
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1646 [12:15:28] <r6ku> did you remember to update your sources?
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1648 [12:16:23] <jelly> hailhydra: pastebin the output of
"apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64" and "apt-cache
policy"
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1654 [12:19:22] <hailhydra> jelly:
replaced-url
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1673 [12:27:09] <hailhydra> jelly: well? is there a newer kernel
for me to use?
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1675 [12:28:19] <r6ku> looks like it, the bpo kernel does show up
in the version table
1676 [12:28:40] <hailhydra> how do I get it?
1677 [12:28:58] <jelly> hailhydra: something like: aptitude -t
jessie-backports install linux-image-amd64
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1679 [12:29:28] <towo`> it would be a good idea to install the
headers from backports too
1680 [12:29:51] <jelly> only if they need non-free drivers built
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1682 [12:30:30] <r6ku> I think he had some nvidia stuff too?
1683 [12:31:02] <hailhydra> does Stallman use Linux?
1684 [12:31:18] <r6ku> hailhydra: did you manage to install the
kernel?
1685 [12:31:23] <towo`> not only non-free has out of tree drivers
1686 [12:31:37] <hailhydra> it finished and says Current status:
53 updates [-1].
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1688 [12:31:54] <hailhydra> so I'm guessing apt-get update
1689 [12:31:58] <hailhydra> and then reboot?
1690 [12:32:03] <jelly> sounds like your system is unpatched, too
1691 [12:32:16] <hailhydra> jelly: what does that mean?
1692 [12:32:30] <jelly> hailhydra: it means 53 packages have
patches
1693 [12:32:39] <jelly> pending
1694 [12:32:47] <hailhydra> so how do I patch them?
1695 [12:32:56] <hailhydra> I've never heard of a patch. is
this just a debian thing?
1696 [12:33:19] <han-solo> telnet india.colorado.edu 13
1697 [12:33:19] <jelly> security fixes. updates. call them
whatever you want.
1698 [12:33:22] <han-solo> so cool!
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1700 [12:33:31] <r6ku> upgrades*
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1702 [12:34:08] <hailhydra> so just apt-get upgrade right?
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1704 [12:34:24] <jelly> hailhydra: "apt-get update"
merely refreshes apt's knowledge of what's available in
the repositories. You need to upgrade or dist-upgrade.
1705 [12:34:42] <r6ku> hailhydra: since you asked about
stallman...
replaced-url
1706 [12:34:46] <hailhydra> I ran upgrade and it didn't do
anyting
1707 [12:35:13] <hailhydra> k rebooting
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1709 [12:35:22] <Arkadietz> hello guys,
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1711 [12:35:45] <Arkadietz> is there any tool i can test fastest
dns server for me
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1718 [12:37:52] <hailhydra> oh man this is terrible
1719 [12:37:57] <hailhydra> mouse doesnt work
1720 [12:38:00] <hailhydra> one monitor
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1723 [12:38:09] <hailhydra> 1024 resolution
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1726 [12:39:08] <r6ku> ugh really?
1727 [12:39:09] <hailhydra> If I wasn't in i3wm I wouldn;t be
able to do anything and tell you guys how this new kernel sucks
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1730 [12:40:02] <user_12342> Allah is doing
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1732 [12:40:17] <user_12342> sun is not doing Allah is doing
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1734 [12:40:27] <hailhydra> well guys I appreciate all the help.
But I just don't feel like Debian has newer hardware supported
and I need to go back to Ubuntu until the next stable Debian release
1735 [12:40:37] <user_12342> moon is not doing Allah is doing
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1737 [12:40:49] <han-solo> somebody!
1738 [12:40:50] <r6ku> hailhydra: I agree, get your work
environment up with ubuntu
1739 [12:40:50] <user_12342> stars are not doing Allah is doing
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1741 [12:41:06] <user_12342> planets are not doing Allah is doing
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1744 [12:41:34] <hailhydra> thanks a lot. I really wanted to get
away from Ubuntu but Intel skylake is a pretty new chipset.
1745 [12:41:48] <hailhydra> I'll be back
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1747 [12:41:58] <r6ku> hailhydra: sorry we couldn't be more
helpful
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1783 [13:03:16] <Arkadietz> anyone ??
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1858 [13:31:44] <wh0ami> how can i define log name of a screen? im
running: " screen -LAmdS test ./file " and this writes to
screenlog.0 but i want to change to something like the date or if
not possible, how can i do to let screen log everything inside it to
file?
1859 [13:32:37] <han-solo> you can use script i guess
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1861 [13:32:54] <han-solo> man script
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1864 [13:33:26] <SuD> hi, in Gimp i'm trying to open an image
from a web using "Open Location", and I always get
"No such file or directory"
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1866 [13:33:58] * SuD using recently installed debian stable 64 bits,
looks like a problem with gvfs
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1868 [13:35:32] <hexnewbie> SuD: I've found "Open
location..." to be pretty unrealiable. Copying the image in the
browser and pressing Ctrl+Shift+V in Gimp often works better.
1869 [13:35:48] <SuD> except for animated GIFs
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1871 [13:36:31] <hexnewbie> Well, yeah, then saving to disk is
often the only option, sadly
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1873 [13:37:07] <SuD> i'm playing with the package source,
trying wget or curl backends instead of gvfs to see...
1874 [13:37:25] <SuD> the thing is that when i was on debian 32
bit (last month) this bug didn't happen
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1881 [13:39:29] <Arkadietz> is there any tool i can test fastest
dns server for me?
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1915 [13:53:58] <Aussie_matt> can anyone point me to a 32bit efi
live iso? does it exist? or am I out of luck?
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1921 [13:57:11] <SuD> Arkadietz: maybe this code works (you still
need a DNS list file)
replaced-url
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1923 [13:57:26] <XeonSquared> Aussie_matt: I couldn't find
one for any distro
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1925 [13:57:36] <XeonSquared> Lemme guess, cheap Windows 8 or 10
tablet?
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1929 [13:58:57] <Aussie_matt> XeonSquared: haha, yes. I did a
quick google, some people have had luck so I grabbed one.... I want
a live distro so I can dd the original drive before I go installing.
the debian dvd install boots, but I don't want to install with
out dd'ing the drive
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1933 [13:59:24] <XeonSquared> Aussie_matt: press ctrl-alt-f2 to
get a terminal
1934 [13:59:27] <XeonSquared> or rather a tty
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1936 [13:59:31] <XeonSquared> dd using that
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1938 [13:59:39] <Aussie_matt> oh wow.. let me try!
1939 [13:59:54] <XeonSquared> actually the ctrl is optional if
you're doing a GUI-less installk
1940 [13:59:57] <XeonSquared> install*
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1942 [14:00:34] <Arkadietz> missing dnslist.txt
1943 [14:00:35] <Arkadietz> ;)
1944 [14:01:24] <Aussie_matt> XeonSquared: so I'm at the
install 'landing' page, with the different install types,
but ctrl alt f2 isn't working :(
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1949 [14:01:47] <XeonSquared> Aussie_matt: go for the text-only
install
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1953 [14:02:13] <Aussie_matt> XeonSquared: so 'start'
64bit install?
1954 [14:02:18] <XeonSquared> I guess?
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1956 [14:02:46] <XeonSquared> just as long as you don't write
to the disk or do partitioning it should be fine
1957 [14:03:05] <XeonSquared> once it asks for language and/or
network config it should work
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1960 [14:03:41] <Aussie_matt> ah yes.... of course...let's
see
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1963 [14:04:25] <XeonSquared> so you found an iso with a 32-bit
EFI loader?
1964 [14:04:28] <XeonSquared> even an installer one?
1965 [14:04:32] <XeonSquared> I may require this
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1967 [14:04:35] <XeonSquared> for research purposes
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1969 [14:05:20] <Aussie_matt> XeonSquared:
replaced-url
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1971 [14:05:43] <z-zmh> :p
1972 [14:05:52] <XeonSquared> deep magics
1973 [14:05:54] <XeonSquared> thank you, good sir
1974 [14:06:06] <Aussie_matt> XeonSquared: as per
replaced-url
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1978 [14:07:22] <XeonSquared> I might need to test this later
1979 [14:07:26] <XeonSquared> wonderful
1980 [14:07:30] <XeonSquared> wait
1981 [14:07:31] <XeonSquared> Asus
1982 [14:07:34] * XeonSquared goes to check his
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1995 [14:10:28] <Aussie_matt> XeonSquared: well the good news is I
have a terminal, and in /bin is dd! so I just need to mount a usb
disk and then dd the harddrive over. I can't see mounting a usb
drive being a problem can you?
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1999 [14:10:49] <XeonSquared> should be easy enough
2000 [14:11:19] <Aussie_matt> XeonSquared: I've been faffing
about for the last 3 or 4 hours! you're a life saver!
2001 [14:11:19] <XeonSquared> okay this box is 32-bit processor,
32-bit UEFI
2002 [14:11:30] <XeonSquared> Aussie_matt: Happy to help :D
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2005 [14:12:00] <Aussie_matt> that dvd should work for that I
think
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2007 [14:12:35] <Aussie_matt> mines 32 bit uefi, 64 bit
processor...but you can run a 32 bit install...the 32bit efi is the
tricky bit!
2008 [14:12:51] <XeonSquared> I've got rEFInd on it
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2011 [14:13:31] <lowin> Hello. I'm trying to install fglrx on
my system, but the radeon module does not get blacklisted and loads
every time I reboot my system. I checked /etc/modprobe.d/ and it is
indeed listed as blacklist there, is there something I can do about
this?
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2014 [14:14:26] <towo`> lowin, and fglrx you have installed how?
2015 [14:14:39] <lowin> apt-get
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2017 [14:15:01] <lowin> I followed the wiki instruction on debian
website
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2021 [14:15:21] <towo`> have you rebuilt your initrd after
installing?
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2024 [14:15:47] <lowin> Yes, and it includes the radeon module in
the initramfs
2025 [14:15:52] <lowin> not sure why
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2031 [14:17:34] <lowin> The following modules linked to radeon are
also loaded btw, maybe they can give a clue: i2c_algo_bit
drm_kms_helper ttm drm i2c_core
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2039 [14:19:38] <Aussie_matt> XeonSquared: haven't heard of
refind, interesting... so what device do you have?
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2042 [14:21:20] <towo`> lowin, try to start your system with
modprobe.blacklist=radeon as kernel parameter
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2045 [14:22:41] <lowin> towo`, Alright, I'll try that and get
back to you in a few minutes. thanks
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2052 [14:25:51] <Aussie_matt> XeonSquared: I'm off to bed
thanks for your help: I'll have a go at dd'ing when my
heads fresh. thank you for your help!!!!!!!!!!!1 awesome
2053 [14:25:59] <XeonSquared> Asus VivoTab TF810C
2054 [14:26:01] <XeonSquared> Good luck, man
2055 [14:26:07] <XeonSquared> have fun with it
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2057 [14:26:47] <hiya> useradd username -Ml -s /bin/false <--
Can we beat this for auth of ovpn user using PAM?
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2066 [14:28:21] <Aussie_matt> XeonSquared: good luck with the
vivo!
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2100 [14:38:09] <ProprietaryDevic> Cannot get both Steam and
non-free nvidia drivers working on Debian 8 - system fails loading
before login screen.
2101 [14:38:24] <towo`> and?
2102 [14:38:31] <towo`> is that a riddle for us?
2103 [14:38:46] <lowin> towo`, So I tried
modprobe.blacklist=radeon and it didn't help. But i removed the
radeon line in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and it didn't get
included in initramfs so now kernel is forced to work with fglrx
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2106 [14:39:28] <lowin> Now everything works but my concern is
that I will definitely forget to add that line back when I want to
go back to radeon :s
2107 [14:39:30] <ProprietaryDevic> What are thr rules? the
guidelines aren't coming up. Sorry for requesting help in the
wrong format
2108 [14:40:33] <ProprietaryDevic> Nevermind, I'm dumb.
2109 [14:40:33] <towo`> lowin, in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
shoild not be radeon, if so, then it was yourself
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2111 [14:40:55] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, "system fails
loading before login screen." is saying zero
2112 [14:41:11] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, and no one knows your
hardware and how you have installed things
2113 [14:41:14] <lowin> towo`, oh.. maybe it was me.. then
it's all good I guess. thanks for help
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2115 [14:42:25] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Alright, I'm new.
The other support chat I've been on had strict rules on being
brief and stating your problem, not asking for help.
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2123 [14:46:06] <ProprietaryDevic> Fresh install Debian 8
(GNOME3). Cannot get non-free drivers for nvidia GTX 660 and Steam
working. "Oh no something went wrong" message screen
before login screen. Installing nvidia-driver does not work.
Installing the using kernel modules works, Steam breaks the driver.
2124 [14:46:14] <ProprietaryDevic> Better?
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2126 [14:46:42] <towo`> no, not better
2127 [14:47:13] <towo`> paste the output of dpkg -l | grep nvidia
and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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2130 [14:48:05] <ProprietaryDevic> Is there a package I can
install to upload terminal output to paste.debian.org?
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2132 [14:48:21] <towo`> pastebinit#
2133 [14:48:24] <towo`> grr
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2135 [14:48:25] <towo`> pastebinit
2136 [14:49:08] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, after installing, you
can do dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit and pastebinit <
/var/log/Xorg.0.log
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2142 [14:51:19] <ProprietaryDevic> Cheers. I get that a lot of
people don't do their research before asking for help, I'm
trying, just a lot to learn that comes through practice
2143 [14:52:49] <ProprietaryDevic> I have to disconnect from this
PC to connect the one in question to ethernet, brb
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2150 [14:54:56] <ProprietaryDevic> Well apparently my
neighbour's wifi is in range
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2169 [14:58:29] <Freed-Millionair> Earn Money with your shit ! Now
is possible 5 dollars per hours
2170 [14:58:29] <Freed-Millionair> Visit this website =
replaced-url
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2189 [15:05:53] <ProprietaryDevic> Fresh Debian 8 install - GNOME.
GTX 660. nvidia-driver fails install. nvidia site installer works,
but Steam attempts reconfigure which fails. dpkg -l | grep nvidia:
paste.debian.net/418857, /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
paste.debian.net/418858
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2192 [15:06:16] <ProprietaryDevic> dpkg -l | grep nvidia:
replaced-url
2193 [15:06:16] <dpkg> No packages found matching | grep nvidia:
replaced-url
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2196 [15:06:51] <ProprietaryDevic> I wasn't searching it..
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2201 [15:08:37] <TomTomTosch> you used the installer from the
nvidia site?
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2203 [15:09:10] <ProprietaryDevic> TomTomTosch: After
nvidia-driver didn't work, yes.
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2207 [15:10:13] <TomTomTosch> that's often a bad idea and
might break things in the long run.
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2209 [15:10:36] <ProprietaryDevic> Yes. I'm happy to try and
get nvidia-driver working
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2215 [15:13:39] <teraflops> ProprietaryDevic: yeah bad idea.
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2219 [15:14:33] <ProprietaryDevic> teraflops: Okay, I'll do a
fresh install (if necessary) and try figure out what nvidia-driver
doesn't work
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2221 [15:15:16] <teraflops> Fresh install sounds overkill. Did you
look at the debian wiki
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2223 [15:16:03] <TomTomTosch> i think the nvidia drivvers have a
remove script somewhere.
2224 [15:16:05] <ProprietaryDevic> teraflops: It doesn't take
too long and I don't know enough to fix the current install.
Yes, I followed the instructions on
replaced-url
2225 [15:16:15] <teraflops> Sorry I cannot give you the url right
now It's easy to find though
2226 [15:16:44] <teraflops> ProprietaryDevic: ah. Well it's
up to you
2227 [15:16:55] <TomTomTosch> ProprietaryDevic, you can do that.
we will help you then to debug your problem.
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2229 [15:17:38] <ProprietaryDevic> teraflops: TomTomTosch Okay,
thanks. That's probably preferred, it's nice to know my
system isn't likely to break any kernel update
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2236 [15:21:08] <korhojoa> i've just done a jessie netinstall
and resolv.conf keeps getting overwritten with a ipv6 nameserver,
removing all the information put there by the dhcp client
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2244 [15:23:39] <korhojoa> how do i get that to stop happening?
2245 [15:23:46] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, you haven't created
a xorg.conf for using the nvidia-driver
2246 [15:24:28] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, and maybe 340.96 does
not support your card, so maybe in backports is a newer version of
nvidia-driver
2247 [15:24:50] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: nvidia-detect and
nvidia's site seem to say it's supported
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2251 [15:25:29] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, then do mkdir
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section
"Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver
"nvidia"\nEndSection' >
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
2252 [15:25:57] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, and check with dkms
status if the nvidia-module was build for your running kernel
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2255 [15:26:15] <r6ku> yup, gtx 660 is supported by 340.65
2256 [15:26:19] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Oh sorry, I forgot to
tag you, I'm currently doing a fresh install and using
nvidia-driver instead of nvidia's install script
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2262 [15:28:17] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, doesn't matter, you
need that x-config snipped
2263 [15:29:31] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Do I do that after
installing nvidia-driver?
2264 [15:29:50] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, from your paste, you
have installed the driver
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2268 [15:30:04] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, so do it
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2270 [15:30:20] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: I'm doing a fresh
install, it's just rebooting into a fresh Debian 8
2271 [15:31:19] <transhuman_> hi is there any command besides an
actual full install that gives more output than "apt-get
install <pkg> --simulate"
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2289 [15:44:09] <Samouy> Hello, I am looking for people who have a
Dell XPS 13 with Debian stable/testing/unstable installed on it
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2300 [15:48:47] <karlpinc> !tell Samouy about anyone
2301 [15:48:54] <ProprietaryDevic> teraflops: TomTomTosch: towo`:
Fresh install complete, I installed nvidia-driver by following
replaced-url
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2304 [15:49:36] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, have you done the mkdir
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section
"Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver
"nvidia"\nEndSection' >
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf?
2305 [15:49:40] <teraflops> ProprietaryDevic: hmm are you using
gdm3?
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2308 [15:49:51] <ProprietaryDevic> teraflops: Yes
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2310 [15:50:06] <teraflops> ProprietaryDevic: give a try
to.lightdm
2311 [15:50:09] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: I asked if I should do
that after my fresh install and you didn't reply, I'll do
it now
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2318 [15:53:11] <Arkadietz> is there any tool i can test fastest
dns server for me? i mean to determine my dns because i don't
knew it. By default is set google public dns server.
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2324 [15:55:35] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Done, do I need to stop
and restart gdm, or reboot?
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2326 [15:56:22] <ProprietaryDevic> teraflops: Sorry for the delay,
I'm getting towo's advice for now, probably shouldn't
do two things at once.
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2329 [15:56:36] <teraflops> ProprietaryDevic: np
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2331 [15:57:43] <Kobaz> what's the best way to upgrade from
squeeze to wheezy
2332 [15:57:58] <Kobaz> i was doing a piecewise upgrade and
there's a major libc change so that broke everything
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usb to get it back to working state
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2338 [15:58:39] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, you can restart gdm or
reboot
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2348 [16:00:30] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: rebooted, getting
nothing but a blinking line on tty7
2349 [16:00:55] <towo`> blinking line on tty indicates a not
properly installed driver
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2351 [16:01:19] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, have you checked, that
the kernelmodule was build?
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2354 [16:01:41] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, check
/var/log/Xorg.0.log what's going wrong
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2362 [16:03:22] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: "Failed to
initialise the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the system's
kernel log...
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2365 [16:03:41] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, i dold you earlyer,
check dkms status
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2367 [16:04:01] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, you propably have not
installed the kernel-headers
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2371 [16:04:41] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: It doesn't mention
that on
replaced-url
2372 [16:05:14] <towo`> what?
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2374 [16:05:17] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: I installed the
"nvidia-driver" package from backports by the way
2375 [16:05:27] <towo`> you allways need the headers for building
kernel-module
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2377 [16:05:43] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, so again, what does dkms
status say?
2378 [16:06:43] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: nvidia-current, 352.79:
added
2379 [16:07:01] <gridl0ck> ProprietaryDevic, did you check this
first? lspci |grep VGA ; lspci |grep 3D
2380 [16:07:02] <towo`> so you miss the kernel-header
2381 [16:07:13] <towo`> install them, reboot and be happy
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2384 [16:07:27] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Package
"kernel-header"?
2385 [16:07:37] <towo`> boah
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2388 [16:08:11] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, apt-get install
linux-headers-amd64
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2390 [16:08:28] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: That seems familiar,
thanks
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2392 [16:09:13] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Already the newest
version, set to manually installed.
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2398 [16:09:54] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`:
"linux-headers-amd64 is already the newest version.",
"linux-headers-amd64 set to manually installed."
2399 [16:10:00] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, paste the complete
output of dkms status
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2402 [16:10:44] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: That was it
2403 [16:11:00] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, uname -a sayes what?
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2405 [16:12:49] <ProprietaryDevic> Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1
SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4 (2016-02-29) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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2408 [16:13:13] <ProprietaryDevic> pastebinit is giving blank url
suffixes for uname
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2414 [16:15:37] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, dpkg -l | grep -i linux
| egrep -i "image|headers" | pastebinit
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2417 [16:16:39] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`:
replaced-url
2418 [16:17:03] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, this will never work!
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2421 [16:17:16] <towo`> you have the headers from backports but
the kernel from stable
2422 [16:17:33] <towo`> headers and image have to fit the same
version
2423 [16:17:45] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: That sounds like a
problem
2424 [16:18:20] <towo`> not realy, because the module should be
builded for the 4.3 kernel
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2430 [16:19:34] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, you can test that with
dkms build -m nvidia-current -v 352.79 -k 4.3.5-1~bpo8+1
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2433 [16:19:51] <hanshenrik> can you please stop redirecting me to
the norwegian debian site every 24 hours or so? its so damn annoying
:p
2434 [16:20:03] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, but you need even the
kernel from backports to run your system
2435 [16:20:13] <transhuman_> ok, so I have written a script to
semi automate install of packages...works great...now I would like
to fully automate by parsing output of apt-get install doing a test
run and branching choices accordingly ...I found the easy way to do
that is with pdc status and grep. I don't find any such package
dpkg-guery -s doesnt show any such package...anyone know if its been
removed, is there a replacement?
2436 [16:20:30] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: So should I just give up
on using stable?..
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2439 [16:21:07] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, what?
2440 [16:21:12] <towo`> who has sayed that?
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2444 [16:22:08] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Sorry, I'm just
lost.
2445 [16:22:18] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, you have to decide
yourself what kernel you want to run, if 3.16.x, you need the
headers for that kernel, if 4.3.x, you need that kernel installed
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2447 [16:22:42] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Can I get the nvidia
proprietary drivers on 3.16.x?
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2449 [16:23:05] <towo`> why not? apt install linux-headers-$(uname
-r)
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2451 [16:23:26] <towo`> or do apt -t jessie-backports install
linux-image-amd64
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2453 [16:23:31] <towo`> it's your choice
2454 [16:23:41] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: So what did I do wrong?
2455 [16:24:00] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, can you think a little?
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2458 [16:24:02] <r6ku> the hell? doesn't the driver install
all the headers and stuff by itself? what happened here?
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2460 [16:24:37] <r6ku> I'm pretty sure stable has nvidia
drivers for gtx 660
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2462 [16:24:40] <towo`> no it does not
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2464 [16:24:48] <r6ku> yes it does
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2466 [16:25:08] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: I'm trying. As far
as I can tell I was prompted to install backport nvidia driver, but
not headers. I don't even know where the 4.3 headers came from
2467 [16:25:10] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, and for you, install the
kernel for your installed headers, or install the headers for your
running kernek
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2469 [16:26:07] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, and you should check,
why the module was not builded against the 4.3 headers
2470 [16:26:16] <towo`> without kernel-module, no x
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2474 [16:27:05] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Sorry? I don't
understand the wording
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2476 [16:27:16] <tulphoon> Can someone explain to me what are
jessie-backports?
2477 [16:27:18] <towo`> then no one can help you
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2479 [16:27:32] <tulphoon> I mean a repo.
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2482 [16:27:44] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, if you can't handle
your system with backports, don't use the backports
2483 [16:27:51] <ksx4system> tulphoon, newer packages recompiled
for stable distro (like, stuff backported from sid to jessie)
2484 [16:28:03] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, as r6ku is telling you,
the driver in stable supports your card
2485 [16:28:07] <tulphoon> ksx4system: is it safe to use those?
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2487 [16:28:13] <tulphoon> are they stable?
2488 [16:28:19] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: I want to understand how
to do that
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2490 [16:28:38] <ksx4system> tulphoon, imho it is :)
2491 [16:28:54] <tulphoon> i just have to add repos to
sources.list?
2492 [16:29:00] <ProprietaryDevic> r6ku: Sorry, you didn't
tag me at all and I haven't seen any of your messages
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2494 [16:29:13] <ksx4system> tulphoon, exactly (as described on
backports website)
2495 [16:29:16] <ProprietaryDevic> r6ku: "<r6ku>
I'm pretty sure stable has nvidia drivers for gtx 660" Are
you referring to the free drivers?
2496 [16:29:21] <tulphoon> okay :)
2497 [16:29:23] <tulphoon> thanks for sure
2498 [16:29:38] <tulphoon> ProprietaryDevic, you have gtx 660?
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2502 [16:29:57] <r6ku> ProprietaryDevic: I'm referring to the
proprietary nvidia drivers
2503 [16:29:58] <ProprietaryDevic> tulphoon: Yes
2504 [16:30:12] <tulphoon> I have the same.
2505 [16:30:16] <ksx4system> tulphoon, stable + backports is
*MUCH* safer solution than testing/sid
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2507 [16:30:27] <tulphoon> ksx4system, on my normal build i have
testing
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2509 [16:30:42] <tulphoon> but on this oldie i will use stable so
it won't break
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2512 [16:31:27] <ksx4system> tulphoon, all right then :)
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2515 [16:31:39] <ericandrewlewis> I tried to install Debian last
night as a dual boot on my mac. I used the firmware netinst image.
The installer could not find my ethernet card. Any thoughts?
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2521 [16:32:48] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Okay, I removed 4.3
headers and installed 3.16 ones and it appears to be working
2522 [16:33:04] <Triski> ericandrewlewis, is it the internal or a
external ethernet card?
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2526 [16:34:00] <ericandrewlewis> Well, I should say, my macbook
doesn't have an ethernet port. I assume it should have found
wifi built-in on the computer as a network interface?
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2529 [16:35:04] <Triski> ericandrewlewis, the built-in wifi does
not works, needs broadcom drivers, apt-get install broadcom-sta-dkms
2530 [16:35:37] <Triski> if you have a external ethernet, it needs
to be plugged in when rebooting due to hotplug limitations with its
driver
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2533 [16:36:29] <ProprietaryDevic> r6ku: So if it's in
stable, why does it say to use backports here?
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2535 [16:36:38] <ericandrewlewis> So I would need to get some
external ethernet to install debian on a macbook?
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2538 [16:37:25] <r6ku> ProprietaryDevic:
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2540 [16:37:52] <tulphoon> ericandrewlewis, if you have a second
computer
2541 [16:37:55] <Triski> ericandrewlewis, i am not a mac user so i
cannot tell for sure. Maybe this guide for a Macbook Pro 13 from
2013 will help you
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2542 [16:38:02] <tulphoon> and some USB Stick Port
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2544 [16:38:06] <tulphoon> run the netinst
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2546 [16:38:10] <tulphoon> without internet connection
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2548 [16:38:27] <tulphoon> then just install the needed wi-fi
firmware through .deb files and dpkg
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2550 [16:38:41] <tulphoon> and you are good to go
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2552 [16:38:52] <ProprietaryDevic> r6ku: Isn't that an older
driver?
2553 [16:39:02] <r6ku> ProprietaryDevic: it's the driver in
stable
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2557 [16:39:48] <ProprietaryDevic> r6ku: So I'd get better
performance out of backports. What disadvantages does that come
with?
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2565 [16:40:39] <r6ku> ProprietaryDevic: install whichever driver
you want, the one in stable works
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2568 [16:41:07] <tulphoon> but follow the guide, seriously.
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2572 [16:41:24] <ProprietaryDevic> r6ku: I've got this one
working I think, how do I check it's not running nouveua
2573 [16:41:30] <ProprietaryDevic> ? *
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2578 [16:42:24] <tulphoon> ProprietaryDevic, try running
nvidia-settings
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2581 [16:42:43] <tulphoon> if the GUI window appears, and you can
see things inside, you're running on nvidia card
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2588 [16:45:00] <ProprietaryDevic> r6ku: Yeah I got it working.
2589 [16:45:41] <ProprietaryDevic> tulphoon: Yup, 352.79 working
2590 [16:45:46] <ProprietaryDevic> Now for Steam.
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2592 [16:45:58] <ProprietaryDevic> It likes to try reconfigure
nvidia driver
2593 [16:46:19] <tulphoon> ProprietaryDevic, i must warn you, that
every setting you will save in there won't work unfortunately
with system boot
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2596 [16:47:20] <ProprietaryDevic> tulphoon: Good to know. Luckily
I have a fairly simple setup and all my Linux games are modern
titles that don't require forcing AA and AF
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2598 [16:47:50] <akk> I have a package held (aptitude hold)
because I build the package from source (with a patch). Is there a
way to find out whether the repo has a newer version, so I know I
need to fetch and build new source?
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2600 [16:47:56] <akk> I can't figure out how to google for
that.
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2603 [16:48:09] <tulphoon> ProprietaryDevic, although if you
really need it you can just manually open it every boot time.
2604 [16:48:20] <tulphoon> like set it once, then just open it
when you need those applied, cuz it will apply those
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2606 [16:48:21] <ProprietaryDevic> Yeah
2607 [16:48:28] <ProprietaryDevic> Ah okay
2608 [16:48:46] <tulphoon> The settings save, but don't
initialize once system boots.
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2610 [16:49:01] <tulphoon> There should be a pretty easy quickfix
tho.
2611 [16:49:19] <tulphoon> But you would need to play a little bit
with google.
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2618 [16:50:47] <ProprietaryDevic> tulphoon: towo`: TomTomTosch:
r6ku: Well I know my next GPU won't be nvidia.
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2621 [16:51:19] <tulphoon> ProprietaryDevic, afaik nvidia cards
are better on Linux than AMD ones.
2622 [16:51:19] <ProprietaryDevic> tulphoon: But I deleted google
from iceweazel. How does I internet.
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2624 [16:51:39] <ProprietaryDevic> tulphoon: Performance wise, but
I'd rather use free drivers at the cost of performance
2625 [16:51:51] <tulphoon> DuckDuckGo
2626 [16:51:55] <tulphoon> for alternative
2627 [16:51:57] <tulphoon> of Google
2628 [16:51:59] <ProprietaryDevic> tulphoon: Yeah ddg master rance
2629 [16:52:02] <ProprietaryDevic> *race
2630 [16:52:09] <ProprietaryDevic> No idea where rance came from
2631 [16:52:15] <tulphoon> rance?
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2633 [16:52:49] <ProprietaryDevic> Muscle memory decided after
'ra' to do 'nce'
2634 [16:52:59] <ProprietaryDevic> Horray, system survived a
reboot without breaking
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2637 [16:53:11] <ProprietaryDevic> Not sure where from, but I know
it was intentional.
2638 [16:53:12] <tulphoon> oh, okay. realised just now
2639 [16:53:18] <tulphoon> Good for you.
2640 [16:53:26] <ProprietaryDevic> (y)
2641 [16:53:39] <ProprietaryDevic> (Y)
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2673 [17:03:46] <ichthys> Do you guys recommend running selinux on
Debian?
2674 [17:04:03] <ichthys> i always gett bashed at work for running
Debian (Instead of RHEL/CentOS)
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2684 [17:05:30] <cink0> hi, i'm using debian gnu/linux
testing amd64 and i'm trying KDE Plasma Desktop 5.4 (latest
version) with wayland. I use SDDM 0.13 as display manager. Do you
think it works?
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2689 [17:06:15] <markybob> cink0: try #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
per /topic for testing support
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2691 [17:06:30] <cink0> ok markybob thanks
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2694 [17:07:21] <donald> hello
2695 [17:08:27] <donald> I want to download the pakage
virtualbox-ose. I have done apt-get install virtualbox-ose
2696 [17:08:27] <donald> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
2697 [17:08:27] <donald> Construction de l'arbre des
dépendances
2698 [17:08:27] <donald> Lecture des informations
d'état... Fait
2699 [17:08:27] <donald> Package virtualbox-ose is not available,
but is referred to by another package.
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2707 [17:09:31] <gionnico> dondelelcaro, since version 4.0 the
name suffix OSE became obsolete. All non-GPL parts are now packed in
an additonal extension pack available from Oracle.
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2713 [17:11:56] <ProprietaryDevic> Attempting to install Steam
following
replaced-url
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2717 [17:12:45] <ProprietaryDevic> I believe it's attempting
to remove amd64 versions and replace with i386 since that's
what Steam requires, but I
2718 [17:13:00] <ProprietaryDevic> *I'm a little worried this
will break my system again
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2723 [17:13:56] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, why you again install
that from backports?
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2725 [17:14:26] <markybob> ProprietaryDevic: that's the
problem. steam doesn't work with backports nvidia
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2727 [17:14:43] <ProprietaryDevic> markybob: Oh. Crap. Lovely
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2729 [17:15:39] <ProprietaryDevic> So, uh, safely admitting defeat
and installing non-free nvidia driver from stable?
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2732 [17:16:05] <markybob> it was working before
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2746 [17:19:33] <ProprietaryDevic> markybob: What do you mean?
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2750 [17:20:00] <stratum> I really don't like the new
NetworkManager in -testing
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2753 [17:20:30] <markybob> ProprietaryDevic: pretty sure i saw
towo` and someone else getting you working with stable not backports
2754 [17:20:55] <ProprietaryDevic> markybob: I wanted backports, I
figured it out
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2756 [17:21:10] <ProprietaryDevic> markybob: And now I want steam
and apparentally I make bad decisions
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2768 [17:23:25] <stratum> it makes spoofing your MAC a PITA
2769 [17:23:29] <tulphoon> :(
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2772 [17:23:39] <stratum> anyone come across a way to make it
revert to the old behavior?
2773 [17:23:43] <ichthys> why would you spoof a MAC
2774 [17:23:50] <tulphoon> I've installed pulse and alsa. And
it doesn't work.
2775 [17:23:57] <stratum> eh, why would I want to spoof my MAC?
2776 [17:24:07] <ichthys> aye
2777 [17:24:12] <tulphoon> ichthys, so the receiver of the packets
thinks it's from the trusted source
2778 [17:24:18] <tulphoon> and accepts those
2779 [17:24:40] <stratum> maybe because I'm not comfortable
broadcasting one of my laptops UUIDs several hundrer feet in every
direction
2780 [17:24:49] <stratum> no
2781 [17:24:58] <ProprietaryDevic> How to remove backport nvidia
non-free drivers and install stable drivers?
2782 [17:25:12] <tulphoon> ProprietaryDevic, what's the
problem with backports tho?
2783 [17:25:16] <stratum> not to spoof other equipments MAC, just
to use random ones
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2785 [17:25:43] <ProprietaryDevic> tulphoon: Accoridng to markybob
they aren't compatible with steam
2786 [17:25:58] <tulphoon> stratum: oh, okay.
2787 [17:26:03] <stratum> businesses track you using your WNIC
MAC, people can see if you are home, etc, etc
2788 [17:26:05] <markybob> tulphoon: ProprietaryDevic: depends
conflict.
replaced-url
2789 [17:26:07] <grawity> good thing NM has had MAC-spoofing
features for years then
2790 [17:26:12] <grawity> recently added more
2791 [17:26:16] <ProprietaryDevic> tulphoon: After this which I
said: "Attempting to install Steam following
replaced-url
2792 [17:26:26] <ProprietaryDevic> Oh, you posted it
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2795 [17:27:03] <grawity> stratum: try setting
802-11-wireless.cloned-mac-address or
802-11-wireless.mac-address-randomization for that matter
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2799 [17:27:18] <teraflops> stratum: spoof a mac is so easy. It
works with networkmanager if youre getting errors share them instead
whining. You can also write a trivial systemd unit for spoofing the
mac address with macchanger
2800 [17:27:24] <stratum> grawity: making a connection file,
specifying a spoofed MAC and then connecting is a whole lot more of
a PITA than using macchiato/macchanger
2801 [17:27:34] <grawity> stratum: making a what
2802 [17:27:51] <stratum> eh, new NM overrides what macchanger has
done before connecting
2803 [17:27:56] <tulphoon> ProprietaryDevic, well you have to
install the stable version then i suppose.
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2810 [17:28:23] <ProprietaryDevic> tulphoon: Yeah, so just apt-get
remove nvidia-driver, apt-get install nvidia-driver-dkms?
2811 [17:28:28] <armin> hi, i have a headless raspberry pi 2
running debian jessie which i use as an MPD host. i recently moved
from alsa to pulseaudio because that fixes a problem i had with
click sounds on track changes. however, i've been using the
equalizer of alsa prior and was able to use it nicely within
alsamixer. is there something for pulseaudio i can use within a
terminal, like-wise?
2812 [17:28:41] <ichthys> Anyone here run SElinux on Debian?
2813 [17:28:45] <stratum> grawity, there is no way of spoofing
your MAC before the first connection to any given network
2814 [17:28:48] <tulphoon> Should work, if not, hit me up.
2815 [17:28:49] <stratum> with the new NM
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2817 [17:29:04] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, no!
2818 [17:29:07] <ProprietaryDevic> tulphoon: nvidia-kernel-dkms
2819 [17:29:17] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
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2821 [17:29:37] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Uh oh
2822 [17:29:46] <stratum> you will either have to connect,
disconnect, change the system-connections file to use a spoofed mac
and reconnect or manually craft a system-connections beforehand
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2825 [17:30:30] <stratum> grawity, tell me, how does the new NM
not override MACs set by macchanger?
2826 [17:30:34] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`:
replaced-url
2827 [17:31:25] <tulphoon> ProprietaryDevic, wait what's your
arch?
2828 [17:31:28] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: remove all that and
install stable?
2829 [17:31:33] <tulphoon> amd64 or i386?
2830 [17:31:34] <towo`> why?
2831 [17:31:55] <stratum> grawity, <grawity> stratum: try
setting 802-11-wireless.cloned-mac-address or
802-11-wireless.mac-address-randomization for that matter
2832 [17:31:56] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, apt -t jessie-backports
install lingl1-nvidia-glx:i386
2833 [17:32:05] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: multi-arch
2834 [17:32:10] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, and?
2835 [17:32:20] <stratum> grawity, can that be set globally? or
will I have to do that for every network/connection?
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2838 [17:32:27] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, do apt -t
jessie-backports install lingl1-nvidia-glx:i386
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2840 [17:32:33] <towo`> where is the problem?
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2842 [17:32:50] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: I didn't say there
was one
2843 [17:33:23] <towo`> and the command is apt -t jessie-backports
install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386
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2845 [17:33:30] <cmdr> Hi, anyone know what's up with the
ftp.nrc.ca apt mirror?
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2847 [17:34:39] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: Yeah I got that,
it's already installed apparentally
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2849 [17:34:55] <stratum> grawity, those settings are
per-connection, it would seem
2850 [17:35:42] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, you paste was saying, it
was not installed
2851 [17:36:06] <stratum> grawity, so now we will have to do ten
commands in nmcli/manually craft a connection file before connecting
to a new network, plus no way to do this in GUI
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2853 [17:36:26] <stratum> hurrah for regression in functionality
2854 [17:36:54] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: I think I had
non-backports installed, so I've just removed that and
installed backports
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2856 [17:37:31] <jmcnaught> stratum: if you don't like stuff
changing, use stable.
2857 [17:37:50] <stratum> jmcnaught, yes, but for how long will
that last? :P
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2859 [17:37:58] <towo`> ProprietaryDevic, i don't get, what
is your exact problem at the moment
2860 [17:38:02] <stratum> until debian 9. new networkmanager
2861 [17:38:42] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: It was that steam
couldn't install because I had installed libg1 from jessie
rather than jessie-backports. I think I fixed that, now I am trying
to install steam again
2862 [17:39:02] <jmcnaught> stratum: presuming that the debian
developers don't fix whatever issue you're having or
provide a workaround
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2867 [17:39:47] <ProprietaryDevic> towo`: It's running and
updating, so far so good, although I've got this far before
2868 [17:39:48] <stratum> well, a workaround is what I am looking
for. one that does not include crafting connections/connection files
for first connect
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2874 [17:40:21] <ProprietaryDevic> What happens to the chat logs
after they disappear up top?
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2877 [17:42:39] <bezaban> ProprietaryDevic: depends on your irc
client config, some will log to file, but usually it will just be
lost unless you've specified otherwise
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2880 [17:43:14] <ProprietaryDevic> bezaban: So
webchat.freenode.net with everything default?
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2882 [17:43:36] <Triski> depends on the software you use to chat,
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2884 [17:44:07] <teraflops> stratum: I don use testing, but i do
use archlinux and creating e.g
/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/pre-up.d/macpoof.sh as said here
replaced-url
2885 [17:44:09] <Triski> some let you define buffer lenght and
what to do with the buffer (either discard it or log to a file)
2886 [17:44:11] <bezaban> ProprietaryDevic: gone
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2889 [17:44:31] <ProprietaryDevic> bezaban: RIP. I should be able
to remember enough to write down how I got everything working
2890 [17:44:32] <teraflops> don't*
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2892 [17:45:16] <stratum> teraflops, i will look into that
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2896 [17:46:55] <ProprietaryDevic> teraflops: TomTomTosch: towo`:
tulphoon: Alright things seem to be working, thanks heaps for your
help, I've learned a lot about backports and following basic
advice
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2900 [17:47:32] <teraflops> ProprietaryDevic: glad it ended
working. cheers
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2902 [17:48:24] <grawity> stratum: oh, so macchanger was a gui app
then? I had no idea.
2903 [17:48:25] <ProprietaryDevic> Oh the things you achieve at 3
am
2904 [17:48:35] <ProprietaryDevic> Have a great Easter everyone
2905 [17:48:39] <ProprietaryDevic> Night.
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2907 [17:49:30] <stratum> grawity, come in with the sarcasm. you
know what i mean
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2913 [17:50:05] <stratum> grawity, there is no way to
change/randomize/etc your MAC before the first connection with new
NM GUI
2914 [17:50:10] <stratum> is what i meant
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2918 [17:50:29] <teraflops> actually there is a macchanger-gtk ...
2919 [17:50:40] <stratum> after having connected once, there is a
connection/connection file which can be edited to spoof ones mac
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2921 [17:50:54] <stratum> but that is a PITA compared to just
using macchanger
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2924 [17:51:40] <stratum> so what I am looking for is a way to
make NM revert the old behavior of not frakking with us
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2927 [17:51:53] <teraflops> stratum: tried what I suggested?
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2931 [17:52:24] <stratum> teraflops, im ginning up a vm to test
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2933 [17:52:37] <miesco> Is it bad to use cpan to install perl
modules?
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2936 [17:53:25] <grawity> stratum: put the setting in
NetworkManager.conf under [connection]
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2941 [17:55:05] <stratum> grawity, from what I can see that
setting belongs in connection files, not in networkmanager.conf
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2943 [17:55:38] <stratum> grawity, source?
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2951 [17:59:01] <grawity> stratum:
replaced-url
2952 [17:59:13] <grawity> the manual page.
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2956 [17:59:50] <teraflops> grawity: hmm what font family is that?
2957 [17:59:54] <no_gravity> Strange, it looks like the alt key on
my debian machine is not working any more. At least ALT+F1 does not
bring up the main menu. How can I check whats up?
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2959 [18:00:04] <grawity> it's Monaco ._.
2960 [18:00:11] <teraflops> hmm
2961 [18:00:20] <grawity> no_gravity: in which desktop
environment?
2962 [18:00:24] <grawity> and does Alt+F2 work
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2964 [18:00:27] <no_gravity> grawity: mate
2965 [18:00:37] <stratum> grawity, oooh
2966 [18:00:41] <no_gravity> grawity: ALT+F2 does nothing
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2969 [18:01:06] <stratum> grawity, can dhcp-send-hostname=false be
set globally too in the same way?
2970 [18:01:06] <ironpillow> hi all urgent help. can't access
files after upgrade using webdav: Handshake alert:
unrecognized_name. This is on a mac. I know this debian, you guys
are my only hope
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2972 [18:01:13] <moldy> hi
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2975 [18:01:47] <moldy> i am trying to get wifi to work on a
thinkpad t410. after (re)booting, rfkill reports it as hard-blocked.
any idea what to do?
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2978 [18:02:27] <ironpillow> anyone?
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2980 [18:03:05] <jmcnaught> moldy: did wifi work before? what kind
of card is it?
2981 [18:03:26] <grawity> ironpillow: what server software are you
connecting to?
2982 [18:03:31] <moldy> jmcnaught: i got the thinkpad just today,
so there is no before :)
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2984 [18:03:36] <grawity> the server is saying it doesn't
recognize the hostname you're trying to use
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2986 [18:03:41] <ironpillow> grawity: I using synology
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2990 [18:04:21] <jmcnaught> moldy: "lspci -nn | grep -i
net" and then if you don't recognize it, tell us the PCI
ID part that looks like [1234:abcd]
2991 [18:04:28] <grawity> ironpillow: what name is on its HTTPS
certificate?
2992 [18:04:29] <stratum> grawity, Added an option to enable use
of random MAC addresses for Wi-Fi access
2993 [18:04:30] <stratum> point scanning (defaults to disabled).
Controlled with
2994 [18:04:30] <stratum>
'wifi.mac-address-randomization' property
(MAC_ADDRESS_RANDOMIZATION key in
2995 [18:04:30] <stratum> ifcfg files).
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2998 [18:04:40] <stratum> oops, sorry
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3001 [18:05:02] <ironpillow> grawity: name of the server
3002 [18:05:07] <jmcnaught> ironpillow: is Debian involved
anywhere in this equation?
3003 [18:05:10] <stratum> grawity, that implies this is for
randomizing MAC for probes, not for connecting
3004 [18:05:27] <moldy> jmcnaught:
replaced-url
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3007 [18:05:37] <ironpillow> jmcnaught: sorry no. i know against
policy. but I couldn't get help anywhere.
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3009 [18:06:12] <jmcnaught> ironpillow: then be patient in an
appropriate channel. Please don't clutter up our Debian channel
with off-topic support requests.
3010 [18:06:27] <ironpillow> jmcnaught: ok. got it.
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3012 [18:06:36] <ironpillow> grawity: thanks.
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3014 [18:07:23] <miesco> dh-make-perl started, I chose the wrong
option though so hit ctrl-c. Now when I run the same command
(dh-make-perl --build --cpan
replaced-url
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3016 [18:07:37] <jmcnaught> moldy: i asked for the output of lspci
-nn
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3018 [18:07:59] <moldy> jmcnaught: ah, i missed that, sorry
3019 [18:08:06] <jmcnaught> moldy: anyways.. it's probably
iwlwifi. do you have the firmware-iwlwifi package installed?
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3021 [18:08:11] <moldy> jmcnaught: yep
3022 [18:08:19] <teraflops> ironpillow: are you using a selfsigned
certificate?
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3024 [18:08:39] <moldy> jmcnaught:
replaced-url
3025 [18:09:00] <jmcnaught> teraflops: if we support non Debian
users here they just keep coming, also it's off topic
3026 [18:09:30] <teraflops> jmcnaught: ^
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3028 [18:09:42] <ironpillow> jmcnaught: I am really sorry about
this. won't happen again.
3029 [18:09:54] <moldy> jmcnaught: heh, i just found the hardware
switch on the side that enables the wifi :p
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3031 [18:10:02] <teraflops> moldy: lel
3032 [18:10:05] <NyanCat> that'd do it
3033 [18:10:22] <moldy>
replaced-url
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3046 [18:15:32] <Walakea> are there any free software replacements
for the non free wifi drivers?
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3048 [18:16:06] <towo`> if there is no working open firmware for
your device, then no
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3053 [18:17:42] <grawity> for which drivers exactly
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3059 [18:19:32] <jmcnaught> Walakea: i think some of the Atheros
cards (but not all) have completely free drivers that don't
require non-free firmwares
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3065 [18:20:29] <Walakea> asus webpage states that for windows
there are 4 different driver
3066 [18:20:29] <tulphoon> Hey guys. I have a little problem in
here. I've installed Alsa and Pulseaudio on my system but it
doesn't seem to work properly...
3067 [18:20:31] <Walakea> *s
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3076 [18:22:43] <Walakea> realtek, qualcomm, broadcom and ralink
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3078 [18:23:07] <tulphoon> Well. If you need firmware you can use
either realtek or ralink.
3079 [18:23:09] <tulphoon> But they're not free.
3080 [18:23:15] <tulphoon> But they still do work :)
3081 [18:23:20] <Walakea> although when i was installing debian it
told me that it requires one part of the firmware-ralink
3082 [18:23:34] <tulphoon> Then install firmware-ralink
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3085 [18:24:07] <Walakea> i installed it but on startup it says
that it couldnt load the driver or something
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3089 [18:24:28] <tulphoon> On install or in system itself?
3090 [18:25:13] <Walakea> on system startup
3091 [18:25:22] <tulphoon> Are you on the same machine right now?
3092 [18:25:26] <tulphoon> And on the same startup?
3093 [18:25:40] <tulphoon> Or do you have access to the machine
right now?
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3095 [18:26:16] <Walakea> let me tell you, i got my wifi to work
when i downloaded something from internet (driver for my card)
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3100 [18:26:31] <Walakea> i will be reinstalling debian in future
and id rather do it via packages
3101 [18:26:50] <Walakea> i am on the machine right now
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3103 [18:27:03] <tulphoon> But you don't get the problems
now, like the warnings?
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3105 [18:27:17] <Walakea> on startup?
3106 [18:27:21] <tulphoon> Ye.
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3109 [18:27:32] <Walakea> no
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3111 [18:27:50] <Walakea> i statred getting them when i installed
the package
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3114 [18:28:02] <Walakea> so yes
3115 [18:28:13] <tulphoon> So you do still get them?
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3117 [18:28:19] <tulphoon> Because i'm slightly confused now.
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3119 [18:29:10] <Walakea> when i installed the drivers from that
tarball i foung on internet then not; i started getting them after i
installed package firmware-ralink
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3121 [18:29:24] <Walakea> sorry, cant see keyboard
3122 [18:29:27] <tulphoon> Okay, sure.
3123 [18:29:48] <Walakea> because i wanted to try the backported
kernel
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3125 [18:30:03] <tulphoon> Walakea, well. I cannot do much if i
don't see the error messages on my own eyes.
3126 [18:30:07] <Walakea> i downloaded that and there the tarball
drivers dont work
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3133 [18:32:15] <Walakea> i have the syslog
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3137 [18:32:28] <tulphoon> Paste it on paste.debian.net and let me
see it.
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3142 [18:33:54] <Walakea>
replaced-url
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3147 [18:34:39] <Walakea> someone told me about reloading a module
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3150 [18:35:57] <tulphoon> What version are you using, stable?
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3152 [18:36:36] <Walakea> frankendebian
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3154 [18:36:44] <tulphoon> What do you mean?
3155 [18:36:56] <Walakea> howerver in future i will be using
stable
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3157 [18:37:27] <Walakea> i was using stable but then partially
downloaded testing packages
3158 [18:37:33] <tulphoon> okay, so i know what's the problem
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3160 [18:37:40] <tulphoon> you need to install firmware-realtek
3161 [18:37:42] <tulphoon> for it to work
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3164 [18:37:52] <tulphoon> r8169 is a realtek driver
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3167 [18:39:08] <Walakea> and i after i download it i guess i will
have to do something more, or not?
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3170 [18:39:40] <tulphoon> probably not
3171 [18:39:48] <Arkadietz> Hello,
3172 [18:39:54] <tulphoon> hi
3173 [18:39:58] <towo`> reload the module
3174 [18:40:02] <Walakea> i will see when i will be reinstalling
it then
3175 [18:40:02] <towo`> or reboot
3176 [18:40:11] <Arkadietz> any ideas how to determine which is
the best dns server for my server?
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3178 [18:40:21] <Walakea> and thanks
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3180 [18:40:25] <Arkadietz> i mean is there any tool except
namebench or whatever?
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3184 [18:41:11] <Walakea> so if i have to do this it probably
means that i wont be able to use wifi with linux-libre
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3186 [18:41:49] <towo`> yes
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3192 [18:43:43] <Walakea> cool
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3195 [18:44:21] <sda13> Hi guys; Are there any major issues in
debian testing right now?
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3200 [18:45:24] <towo`> there are always issues in testing
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3202 [18:45:33] <towo`> otherwise it would be stable
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3207 [18:46:40] <Walakea> which disk flags are safe to set when i
am using laptop HDD?
3208 [18:46:44] <Walakea> like noatime
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3211 [18:47:09] <TomTomTosch>
replaced-url
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3214 [18:47:34] <Walakea> also my system consumes about 30 % more
power
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3216 [18:47:49] <Walakea> i dont have pure testing
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3218 [18:48:54] <sda13> Thanks for that link Tom
3219 [18:49:29] <TomTomTosch> but that does not include usability
problems, only if packages are installable.
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3268 [19:07:32] <Walakea> does full RAM consume the same power as
empty?
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3279 [19:13:08] <SPF> Walakea: you might want to ask this in
#hardware
3280 [19:13:10] <gionnico> Walakea, yes, it does. It will consume
a little bit more power when writing, through.
3281 [19:14:02] <sypher> This isn't really on-topic.
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3287 [19:17:40] <Walakea> sorry
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3328 [19:31:50] <zxd> what could cause wireless mouse to turn off
automatically after a few seconds
3329 [19:32:04] <zxd> If i turn it off and back on it works for a
few more seconds then off it goes again
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3332 [19:33:06] <Triski> zxd, seems energy saving related
3333 [19:33:37] <Triski> zxd, if you click any button does it
powers on again?
3334 [19:33:48] <zxd> Triski, no
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3336 [19:33:57] <zxd> Are there any log messages I can search for
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3340 [19:34:39] <Triski> try on dmesg
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3342 [19:34:44] <Guest91888>
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3345 [19:35:14] <zxd> was not an MTP device
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3431 [20:10:19] * Net-Centric is looking for some help on mdadm.
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3450 [20:16:50] <jmcnaught> Net-Centric: if you talk about your
problem, someone will probably try and help. You don't need an
invitation to ask questions :) Also there's #linux-raid i think
3451 [20:17:01] <Net-Centric> Lost power during an mdadm
initialize of 40Tb's raid level 5. Tried re-running mdadm
--create but getting resource busy messages about sdb1. Ran mdadm
--detail but message back is that /dev/md0 does not exist. Is this
OS re-install time ?
3452 [20:17:27] <Net-Centric> jmcnaught: TY
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3461 [20:19:46] <Net-Centric> jmcnaught: just joined #linux-raid -
it's ghostly quiet in there :-)
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3465 [20:20:53] <jmcnaught> Net-Centric: it's quiet here too.
it's a long weekend. i doubt you need to reinstall
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3467 [20:21:50] <bluefive> Any idea why when I mute BEEP in
Alsamixer I lose some of the annoying background hiss?
3468 [20:21:57] <bluefive> It's still there but unmuting BEEP
makes it more obnoxious.\
3469 [20:22:00] <bluefive> How could that be?
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3472 [20:23:17] <Net-Centric> jmcnaught: Cannot get the OS to
release sdb1 - tried deleting and creating a new one with fdisk.
Then ran partprobe (as SU). No luck.
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3477 [20:25:54] <bamb> how can i install "gcc version 4.7.2
(Debian 4.7.2-5)" on debian?
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3479 [20:26:58] <TomTomTosch> bamb, what debian version are you
using?
3480 [20:27:22] <bamb> 8.3
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3482 [20:28:02] <TomTomTosch> bamb, 8.3 has gcc 4.9. sure you
don't want to use that? :3
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3485 [20:28:18] <bamb> yea its a specific build environemnt im
trying to replicate
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3487 [20:28:46] <bamb> im getting erros, althought it build on
another machine. im thinking its the compiler version possibly
3488 [20:28:54] <TomTomTosch> you could debootstrap wheezy and
schroot.
3489 [20:29:10] <bamb> can i just install the package?
3490 [20:29:19] <bamb> i dunno how to install a specific version
3491 [20:29:20] <TomTomTosch> not without breaking things.
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3495 [20:29:54] <Walakea> jmcnaught: from what i am reading the
LVM looks cool
3496 [20:30:00] <bamb> in general, how would i install a specific
version of a package?
3497 [20:30:44] <TomTomTosch> bamb, in general you would install
what's in the stable repos or use jessie-backports.
3498 [20:31:17] <jmcnaught> Walakea: i hate to say i told you so,
but i told you so :P there's a lot of nifty stuff you can do
with it. I use lvmcache to add SSD caching to a volume on a slow
HDD.
3499 [20:31:35] <fanderal> bamb: wheezy has 4.7.2-1... if not
using wheezy, install it in a VM and build there
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3501 [20:32:03] <bamb> 8.3 is not wheezy?
3502 [20:32:09] <bamb> which version is 8.3?
3503 [20:32:14] <TomTomTosch> jessie
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3505 [20:32:35] <bamb> how could i get jessie-backports?
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3507 [20:32:43] <Walakea> still i dont think i would be able to
manage it
3508 [20:33:05] <Walakea> (page 15)
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3510 [20:33:08] <TomTomTosch> bamb, jessie-backports will not help
you with gcc 4.7
3511 [20:33:12] <bamb> ehh
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3517 [20:37:34] <bluefive> Could it be that my HARDWARE ITSELF
would make white noise when I have headphones plugged in?
3518 [20:37:36] <jhutchins> bamb: Backports are the other
direction.
3519 [20:37:38] <bluefive> Or is that a software issue?
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3523 [20:37:47] <jhutchins> bamb: Wheezy in a VM or chroot.
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3527 [20:38:25] <jhutchins> bamb: Or on a partition and dual boot
it.
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3532 [20:39:49] <jhutchins> bluefive: Yes, it could be hardware.
3533 [20:40:04] <bluefive> jhutchins, How to tell?
3534 [20:40:16] <jhutchins> bluefive: Built in sound?
3535 [20:40:27] <jhutchins> bluefive: Or is it a card?
3536 [20:40:32] <karlpinc> bamb: Or a VM, but that's
harder-ish to setup.
3537 [20:41:13] <bluefive> Inside I see a little silver thing that
looks like a USB jack.
3538 [20:41:18] <bluefive> That's where the headphones plug
in.
3539 [20:41:24] <bluefive> It's a mini PC so everything is
integrated.
3540 [20:41:35] <bluefive> But the headphones go right into the
sound component. There's no routing.
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3542 [20:41:49] <bluefive> It's a Realtek ALC 283.
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3545 [20:43:17] <bluefive> I want the clearest audio possible.
3546 [20:43:20] <bluefive> No white noise if possible.
3547 [20:43:25] <bluefive> Let me tell you something interesting.
3548 [20:43:40] <bluefive> I went into Alsamixer and I UNMUTED the
BEEP level associated with my card.
3549 [20:43:47] <jhutchins> bluefive: You can try a live iso with
a different kernel, see if a different driver helps, but it's
likely to be picking up internal noise. The "Beep" channel
is routed from the internal speaker circuit.
3550 [20:43:50] <bluefive> That made the white noise more
obnoxious even if the BEEP was set to 0.
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3552 [20:43:56] <bluefive> Muting it turned off some extra noise.
3553 [20:44:05] <jhutchins> bluefive: Tightly integrated systems
like that are less careful about shielding.
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3555 [20:44:28] <TomTomTosch> ye, sounds like a hardware issue.
badly isolated sound channel.
3556 [20:44:39] <bluefive> TomTomTosch, What makes it sound like
that?
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3558 [20:44:48] <TomTomTosch> is it a new device?
3559 [20:44:51] <bluefive> Yes.
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3561 [20:45:28] <bluefive> I'm plugging the headphones into
the sound component directly. And inside it's not as crowded as
you might think. The sound component, the little silver cube,
isn't next to any interfering hardware like the WI-FI card.
3562 [20:45:33] <bluefive> That's on the other side of the
unit.
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3565 [20:46:07] <bluefive> There is a fan inside. Potentially the
sound component could be picking up fan noise?
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3570 [20:46:48] <bluefive> TomTomTosch, I asked what made you
think it's hardware.
3571 [20:46:50] <bluefive> And then said:
3572 [20:46:57] <bluefive> I'm plugging the headphones into
the sound component directly. And inside it's not as crowded as
you might think. The sound component, the little silver cube,
isn't next to any interfering hardware like the WI-FI card.
3573 [20:47:02] <bluefive> That's on the other side of the
unit.
3574 [20:47:06] <bluefive> There is a fan inside. Potentially the
sound component could be picking up fan noise?
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3578 [20:48:23] <jhutchins> bluefive: Fan probably wouldn't
be white noise.
3579 [20:48:31] <TomTomTosch> want me to guess? no idea :D
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3581 [20:48:48] <TomTomTosch> is it a new device?
3582 [20:48:54] <bluefive> Yees
3583 [20:49:15] <bluefive> It goes away when I MUTE the output
volume.
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3585 [20:49:31] <bluefive> And it doesn't go louder when I
turn the volume louder. It's one level whenever the output
volume isn't muted.
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3588 [20:49:39] <zinx> bluefive: try muting line-in / cd/aux / mic
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3590 [20:50:00] <bluefive> Input is muted when I go into sound
preferences.
3591 [20:50:08] <bluefive> I don't see a mic to mute when I
go into Alsamixer.
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3593 [20:50:36] <bluefive> Built in Audio
3594 [20:50:43] <TomTomTosch> maybe some broken opamp or some
manufacturing error on the pcb. test it with a live iso like
suggested above.
3595 [20:50:44] <bluefive> ASnalog stereo output
3596 [20:50:48] <bluefive> 1 input, 1 output
3597 [20:50:51] <bluefive> that's how I have it set.
3598 [20:51:13] <bluefive> TomTomTosch, This is the second unit
I've tried so it's not likely defective.
3599 [20:51:36] <jhutchins> bluefive: Pretty likely it's just
a bad design.
3600 [20:52:07] <bluefive> jhutchins, 51 reviews on Amazon and not
one mentions any white noise in the headphone jack.
3601 [20:52:32] <jhutchins> bluefive: How many of the reviews were
using the unit for audio?
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3603 [20:52:48] <bluefive> It's a little PC. Who doesn't
listen to audio on their PC?
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3605 [20:53:48] <bluefive> I do believe the design is quite good.
If you went inside you'd see. It's quite impressive.
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3607 [20:54:03] <bluefive> The casing is basically a metal cage.
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3609 [20:54:28] <bluefive> This is the MSI Cubi by the way. Some
of these units sell for over $1500.
3610 [20:54:43] <bluefive> I do believe the quality is
outstanding.
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3613 [20:55:12] <bluefive> MSI really wanted to get it right to
compete against and surpass Intel.
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3615 [20:55:57] <jhutchins> bluefive: I would selectively mute
various input/output channels. You may have an open capture channel
that isn't connected but is active in the mixer.
3616 [20:55:58] <bluefive> Superb engineering. Like I say the
sound component is in a space of the little cube almost all to
itself.
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3618 [20:56:22] <bluefive> jhutchins, How shall I do that?
3619 [20:56:31] <TomTomTosch> i'm not buying one if
that's what you want :P
3620 [20:56:38] <npo> is there a way to reverse the behavior of
function keys on a laptop, so that pressing the F* key will press
F*, but holding FN and pressing F* will perform the special function
of that key ? (like airplane mode or volume up, etc)
3621 [20:56:58] <bluefive> Which program do you suggest I use?
3622 [20:56:59] <npo> if i want to press F7, i have to hold fn to
do it, but i'd rather not
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3625 [20:59:24] <bluefive> What is PCM?
3626 [20:59:25] <markybob> npo: usually there's a setting in
bios for multimedia keys
3627 [20:59:43] <npo> markybob: ah ok great, thank you
3628 [21:00:21] <jhutchins> bluefive: In the mixer. Check ALL of
the options, one by one.
3629 [21:00:31] <bluefive> jhutchins, In Alsamixer?
3630 [21:00:37] <jhutchins> bluefive: And again, a live ISO with a
different kernel for a different driver.
3631 [21:00:38] <bluefive> There really aren't many options.
3632 [21:00:43] <jhutchins> bluefive: Whatever mixer you use.
3633 [21:00:44] <bluefive> Oh.
3634 [21:00:50] <bluefive> That's a good idea.
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3636 [21:01:13] <bluefive> In GNOME ALSA Mixer I see only 3
options
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3638 [21:01:17] <bluefive> Master, PCM, and Beep
3639 [21:01:22] <jhutchins> bluefive: I've had some
surprising results from just some random option being on or off.
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3641 [21:01:26] <jhutchins> bluefive: Try alsamixer.
3642 [21:01:36] <jhutchins> bluefive: Gnome specializes in
limiting your options.
3643 [21:02:03] <bluefive> In alsamixer I have SPIF 1 and 2 and
SPIF all muted
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3646 [21:02:18] <jhutchins> bluefive: Check your capture options.
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3648 [21:02:26] <bluefive> When I type F4 for capture
3649 [21:02:29] <bluefive> nothing happens. Why is that?
3650 [21:02:39] <jhutchins> bluefive: Darned if I know.
3651 [21:03:19] <bluefive> PCM should be left at 100?
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3653 [21:03:31] <movic> Hi guys, anyone here can help me with
forwarding internet connection from one device to another?
3654 [21:03:32] <bluefive> I can only view Playback or ALL
3655 [21:03:39] <bluefive> probably because the hardware
doesn't support capture.
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3658 [21:04:14] <markybob> movic:
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3659 [21:04:27] <movic> i have only terminal :PPP sorry
3660 [21:04:48] <karlpinc> !tell movic about ip forwarding
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3662 [21:05:04] <karlpinc> movic: Do you want to forward or also
NAT?
3663 [21:05:08] <bluefive> Going to try a live ISO.
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3665 [21:05:37] <jhutchins> movic: What kind of connectivity?
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3667 [21:06:03] <jhutchins> movic: More details needed to answer.
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3669 [21:06:34] <movic> karlpinc: thanks man, i have raspberrypi
with rapsbian and everything is setup, i have usb modem and wifi
that creates wifi network
3670 [21:06:43] <movic> im connected to wifi but there is no
internet connection
3671 [21:07:00] <movic> when i ssh into rpi, rpi has internet
connection
3672 [21:07:13] <movic> but its not forwarding internet to wifi
3673 [21:07:13] <movic> :/
3674 [21:07:17] <movic> id dont know why
3675 [21:07:33] <movic> i setup ipv4 forwarding nat iptables
3676 [21:07:41] <movic> and i dont know here i made a mistake
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3678 [21:07:56] <jhutchins> movic: So you want the pi to act as a
wireless router?
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3680 [21:08:03] <movic> now im connected to rpi via ssh and im
able to use terminal and irssi
3681 [21:08:05] <movic> ;)
3682 [21:08:08] <jhutchins> movic: Ah:
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3683 [21:08:17] <karlpinc> movic: I'm afraid we don't
know raspbian. Anything we say might break your system. Better ask
the raspbian people.
3684 [21:08:37] <movic> i know but i think its typica also in
debian
3685 [21:08:41] <movic> sorry
3686 [21:08:48] <movic> but lot of raspbian peps are not so
advanced
3687 [21:08:49] <movic> :/
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3690 [21:09:06] <jhutchins> movic: See guide above for forwarding,
you will also need to set up the wifi on the pi as an AP instead of
a client.
3691 [21:09:10] <karlpinc> movic: Well, you can run debian on a
rpi. :)
3692 [21:09:20] <movic> i made this process a lot of time but
transfering internet from eth to wifi or wifi to eth
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3694 [21:09:41] <jhutchins> movic: I used to build soho routers
out of old PCs.
3695 [21:09:45] <TomasCZ> Yo, we were messaging the other day :)
3696 [21:09:53] <movic> jhutchins: its done, im connected to wifi
which was created by rpi.
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3698 [21:10:11] <jhutchins> movic: Probably just need to tweak the
forwarding then.
3699 [21:10:35] <movic> jhutchins: yes problably thats the problem
but i cant figure it out :/
3700 [21:10:50] <Walakea> which disk flags can i set in order to
minimize disk writes?
3701 [21:10:51] <jhutchins> movic: See link above - that's
the best guide I've seen.
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3704 [21:11:05] <jhutchins> Walakea: Tuning an SSD?
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3707 [21:11:23] <Walakea> no, but i would like to know
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3710 [21:11:49] <bluefive> The white noise
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3712 [21:11:53] <Walakea> i mean generally for a single user
laptop
3713 [21:11:57] <bluefive> is actually quite faint
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3715 [21:12:09] <movic> i dont know if there is a difference
betwen configuring forawrd from eth0 to wlan0 and forward from eth1
(usb modem created this eth1) to wlan0
3716 [21:12:13] <bluefive> It's obviously there but it's
not very loud. It's basically as subtle as it can be while
still being there.
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3718 [21:12:21] <bluefive> Does that sound like a hardware issue?
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3720 [21:12:57] <karlpinc> bluefive: Perhaps the AC power lines
are routed too close to something? Or there's other
electromagnetic crosstalk.
3721 [21:13:20] <karlpinc> bluefive: (Just guessing. I've no
clue.)
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3723 [21:13:43] <bluefive> It's not bad but it's
definitely there.
3724 [21:13:47] <movic> jhutchins: ok, ill check this guide, brb i
need to connect usb modem directly to laptop
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3726 [21:13:52] <movic> jhutchins: thanks for help, brb
3727 [21:13:54] <bluefive> I notice a relaxing difference when I
mute the volume and kill it entirely.
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3738 [21:16:35] <bluefive> The white noise becomes much less
obnoxious when I don't play anything for 10 minutes or so.
3739 [21:16:40] <bluefive> It comes back stronger when I play
something and then sticks around.\
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3742 [21:17:33] <bluefive> It's gone down already. So about
10 seconds after I play something it goes down to very low levels.
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3744 [21:17:39] <bluefive> It's playing things that causes it
to become a little irritating.
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3751 [21:18:14] <karlpinc> bluefive: It's not the fan?
3752 [21:18:18] <bluefive> No.
3753 [21:18:31] <bluefive> The moment I play something the very
subtle white noise becomes more obnoxious.
3754 [21:18:43] <bluefive> Then if I stop playing something and
wait 15 seconds or so it will go down.
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3756 [21:19:13] <bluefive> If I could keep the white noise at the
level it's at when I don't play anything then that would
be fine.
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3758 [21:19:21] <bluefive> pLaying audio is causing it to act up.
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3760 [21:19:53] <karlpinc> bluefive: If you take it out into the
cold does it behave the same way? I'm wondering if it could be
heat related.
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3762 [21:20:18] <bluefive> How could heat be the culprit?
3763 [21:20:46] <bluefive> My home is only 65F by the way. And the
unit has the issue if I've left it alone all night and use it
in the morning.
3764 [21:20:55] <karlpinc> bluefive: Heat is noise.
3765 [21:21:18] <bluefive> I'm going to run a live ISO of
elementary OS
3766 [21:21:21] <bluefive> to see if it's there.
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3768 [21:21:43] <bluefive> By the way
3769 [21:22:05] <bluefive> I made some ISOs using Startup Disk
that work generally OK except that I get some errors when I boot
with them.
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3771 [21:22:11] <ewew> activity of particles increases with
raising temperature.
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3773 [21:22:19] <bluefive> The disks I bought from OS DISC
don't give me any such errors.
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3775 [21:23:08] <bluefive> ewew, Maybe, but when I say the white
noise intensifies when I play, I mean immediately
3776 [21:23:12] <bluefive> not after 2 minutes or so.
3777 [21:23:33] <ewew> did you try to mute external input sources
<
3778 [21:23:35] <ewew> ?
3779 [21:23:46] <bluefive> I did mute Input in the Sound
Preferences.
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3795 [21:31:59] <pr0m_> hi, i'd like to use more recent
versions of software on debian - i read the wiki - but practically,
could anyone compare in terms of stability the testing and stable
channels of debian to the rolling releases, like for example ubuntu?
3796 [21:32:49] <dvs> pr0m_, ubuntu is like unstable. the end.
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3798 [21:33:17] <jhutchins> pr0m_: Is there a specific feature you
need on a particular package?
3799 [21:33:35] <jhutchins> pr0m_: Or are you just insecure that
other people will have bigger version numbers than you do?
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3802 [21:34:39] <pr0m_> jhutchins, actually i am trying to move
from windows 10 to linux at least at home, but all the software i
use have newer versions, so running the stable release would not
follow my work
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3807 [21:35:59] <ewew> pr0m_ Debians primary goal is to have
stable and secure system and offcource without nonfree stuff as much
is possible.
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3809 [21:36:12] <ewew> *offcourse.
3810 [21:36:37] <markybob> pr0m_: what software?
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3812 [21:37:44] <pr0m_> markybob , well i tried on vm the
backported but there were many missing, like more specialized
software, qgis, gmt, gcc is at 4.x, etc
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3814 [21:39:13] <pr0m_> ewew i like that debian wants to stay free
and open source plus it's a serious distro not one that will
dissapear but desktop is a bit different than server at least when
you collaborate with others that won't have the same os
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3816 [21:40:57] <ewew> well. You still can use upstream sources,
but note that you will not have any security support. debian testing
and unstable does not have security support.
3817 [21:41:59] <pr0m_> are upstream sources different than the
standard channels ? you mean use some part?
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3819 [21:42:51] <jmcnaught> pr0m_: the reason i use Debian Stable
on my laptop is because it's reliable and I don't have to
worry that an update will break something or make me update config
files. There's also
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3825 [21:45:12] <pr0m_> jmcnaught do things break very often? i
mean is it something like once in six months or more often?
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3831 [21:47:15] <jmcnaught> pr0m_: it depends on what you consider
broken i guess.. it's important to remember that
testing/unstable aren't rolling releases intended for
end-users, they're primarily for developers and testers working
to prepare the next stable release
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3833 [21:48:47] <jmcnaught> pr0m_: if you're new to linux and
debian in particular, starting with testing/unstable isn't
recommended. unless maybe what you want to use Debian for is
learning how it all fits together and contributing bug reports
3834 [21:49:31] <jmcnaught> pr0m_: if you want Debian so you can
use your computer, that's what the stable release is for
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3838 [21:51:46] <pr0m_> jmcnaught this contradicts the previous
answer to my question that ubuntu is like debian unstable, unless
ubuntu also breaks that often
3839 [21:51:56] <sine0> im trying to start a daemon and it says it
cant write pid file, is this a perms issue
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3843 [21:53:22] <jmcnaught> pr0m_: there are some ubuntu refugees
here that don't have a very high opinion of it
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3868 [22:02:04] <TheWarden> Hello
3869 [22:02:38] <TheWarden> Since the switch has gone from
Iceweasel to Firefox, I installed Firefox from the backports.
However how can I remove iceweasel?
3870 [22:02:55] <cra1g321> apt-get remove iceweasel
3871 [22:03:10] <TheWarden> I attempted to do so but apt-get
states gnome-core will also be removed. I need gnome-core to use
gnome.
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3873 [22:03:52] <cra1g321> then it looks like a gnome metapackage
is depending on iceweasel
3874 [22:03:57] <towo`> no, you don't nedd gnome-core
3875 [22:04:13] <towo`> it's only a metapackage
3876 [22:04:19] <TheWarden> ahh what? That's how I installed
gnome in the first place.
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3879 [22:04:41] <cra1g321> paste us into paste.debian.net what it
shows when you try to remove iceweasel
3880 [22:04:44] <TheWarden> mmm okay I'll try. I guess I
could just re-install gnome-core if necessary.
3881 [22:04:49] <TheWarden> okay
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3883 [22:05:30] <TheWarden> eek this will take more then just
gnome-core... pasting the results
3884 [22:05:35] <towo`> as long as gnome-core depends on
iceweasel, you can't reinstall it without installing iceweasel
3885 [22:05:41] <dontknow> TheWarden, i guess installing
gnome-core will also install iceweasel
3886 [22:05:53] <towo`> but again, let it go, you gnome will run
3887 [22:06:05] <cra1g321> why didnt you just keep using iceweasel
? it's not like its suddenly going ot be unsupported
3888 [22:06:13] <cra1g321> to*
3889 [22:06:36] <dontknow> cra1g321, it is latest in backports
3890 [22:06:57] <TheWarden> okay here it is
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3891 [22:07:04] <TheWarden> dontknow: oh great
3892 [22:07:30] <TheWarden> towo`: yeah but why have something on
the system that I don't use anymore or want?
3893 [22:07:46] <Nimms> TheWarden, you can try this:
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3894 [22:07:46] <TheWarden> cra1g321: Iceweasel is no more plus
its outdated.
3895 [22:08:06] <dontknow> TheWarden, it means apt-get autoremove
will remove those packages
3896 [22:08:07] <cra1g321> from what you said, i thought you were
using iceweasel from jessie repo
3897 [22:08:25] <towo`> TheWarden, because autoremove is stupid
3898 [22:08:33] <TheWarden> cra1g321: oh sorry no
3899 [22:08:55] <TheWarden> towo`: not autoremoves fault but more
of the fault of how the required dependencies are. That is stupid.
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3901 [22:09:33] <TheWarden> Nimms: Oh okay, thanks I'll take
a look. 2011, dated article. I hope it still applies today.
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3903 [22:10:12] <cra1g321> personally i'd just set firefox as
default browser and let iceweasel be, messing with metapackages will
likely end in tears
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3905 [22:11:09] <TheWarden> cra1g321: yeah that seems so.
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3907 [22:11:55] <TheWarden> Or, learn how to install gnome and
desired packages without using gnome-core meta package so there is
less reliance. I thought gnome-core was it that kept me at minimal
install and allowed more control of what I want.
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3909 [22:12:21] <cra1g321> there is a few gnome metapackages
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3911 [22:12:28] <TomTomTosch> it's not stable? iceweasel is a
transitional package on stretch and sid anyway.
3912 [22:12:30] <cra1g321> there should be one that gives yo uthe
desktop environment only
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3916 [22:14:56] <TheWarden> TomTomTosch: nothing to do with
stability but more of the fact that Iceweasel is no more and Firefox
is it now.
3917 [22:15:06] <TheWarden> cra1g321: yeah haven't found it I
guess :-).
3918 [22:15:20] <TomTomTosch> TheWarden, stable means debian 8.
3919 [22:15:33] <TheWarden> interesting aptitude appears to allow
me to remove iceweasel if I don't accept the first solution and
go with the second.
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3921 [22:15:50] <cra1g321> "iceweasel is no more"
iceweasel is still in jessie repos, it wont go away anytime soon
3922 [22:15:56] <TheWarden> TomTomTosch: well okay, but Iceweasel
shounldn't be used anymore as its no longer going to be
updated.
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3925 [22:16:31] <TomTomTosch> TheWarden, the question was if you
use debian 8.
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3927 [22:16:57] <TheWarden> TomTomTosch: oh yes, sorry.
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3932 [22:18:00] <cra1g321> TheWarden, seems gnome-core is the
minimal metapackage, that is rather interesting that it is set to
depend on firefox :/
3933 [22:18:03] <TheWarden> well okay, I guess sticking with what
I have is all I can do unless I figured out how to install gnome
without gnome-core. I'll have to look into this more later.
Thanks guys.
3934 [22:18:13] <fwuffykat> hi - I'm installing debian right
now and I get the error "Failed to determine the codename for
the release." when trying to "install the system"
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3936 [22:18:23] <fwuffykat> any help?
3937 [22:18:28] <cra1g321> gnome-core is the core modules of
gnome, so you will need it
3938 [22:18:28] <M4GNV5> uhhhhm should i be worried that sensors
says my cpu runs at ~90°C?
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3939 [22:18:30] <TheWarden> cra1g321: oh really... dang but
I'm sure I could install gnome with different packages so I
pick and choose no?
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3941 [22:18:55] <jmcnaught> fwuffykat: which install iso image are
you using?
3942 [22:19:11] <cra1g321> not unless you want to pick and choose
between 30+ packages and know every single one that is needed
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3944 [22:19:17] <fwuffykat> I am using live cd i836
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3946 [22:19:29] <TomTomTosch> TheWarden, iceweasel in stable will
still be supported. so it does not matter if you use iceweasel or
stable firefox.
3947 [22:19:49] <fwuffykat> this one --->
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3948 [22:19:53] <cra1g321> if you have no need to use a newer
firefox just stick with iceweasel imo
3949 [22:20:04] <jmcnaught> fwuffykat: the live cds can install,
but they're not very good at it. use an installer image like
the one linked to on debian.org front page
3950 [22:20:14] <TheWarden> I think gnome-shell is it and then
whatever else one wants.
3951 [22:20:15] <jmcnaught> fwuffykat: also recommended to check
the install manual
3952 [22:20:34] <Nimms> TheWarden, `apt-get install gnome-core
--no-recommends` maybe?
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3954 [22:20:46] <TheWarden> TomTomTosch: Well not according to
what I've read about it and according to mozilla.debian.net
3955 [22:20:48] <fwuffykat> really? I just spent an hour with this
process....surely I don't have to abandon this?
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3957 [22:21:00] <fwuffykat> jmcnaught: ^
3958 [22:21:14] <cra1g321> Nimms, iceweasel is set as a dep not a
recommend
3959 [22:21:19] <cra1g321>
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3961 [22:21:24] <jmcnaught> fwuffykat: if you had checked the
instructions first you wouldn't have wasted this time :P
3962 [22:21:40] <Nimms> cra1g321, whoops, got it.
3963 [22:21:45] <TheWarden> The end of the Iceweasel Age,
replaced-url
3964 [22:21:50] <TomTomTosch> TheWarden, the backports iceweasel
is gone.
3965 [22:22:33] <TheWarden> TomTomTosch: oh yeah, true. Granted
different view point I have. I argue for a browser especially it
should be current and updated regularly for security reasons.
3966 [22:22:45] <TheWarden> TomTomTosch: so backports is the best
solution. Granted a lot don't know that.
3967 [22:23:02] <cra1g321> iceweasel is still supported and based
on ESR version of firefox
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3969 [22:23:19] <cra1g321> one could argue its more secure than
newer firefox
3970 [22:23:26] <TheWarden> cra1g321: this is interesting...
I'll look into this more. Love to have more of a minimal
install.
3971 [22:23:28] <TomTomTosch> TheWarden, security is not the
issue. usability is.
replaced-url
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3973 [22:23:38] <fwuffykat> can you give me a link to which
version of Debian I should download if not the live version?
3974 [22:23:46] <TheWarden> cra1g321: yeah I suppose but I'm
not convinced.
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3977 [22:24:18] <dvs> fwuffykat, the one that just says
"current"
3978 [22:24:30] <TheWarden> TomTomTosch: oh well not sure what
people are having problems with usability wise. Security should come
first. Heck I've used the latest version of the browser for
more then 5 years without an issue.
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3980 [22:24:45] <TheWarden> TomTomTosch: but okay... not arguing
just saying.
3981 [22:25:30] <TomTomTosch> TheWarden, what i tried to say is,
that all security fixes for iceweasel get backported so it's
just as secure. don't twist my words ;D
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3983 [22:25:48] <markybob> fwuffykat: are you sure you need
32-bit? not 64-bit? and is it a laptop?
3984 [22:26:15] <TheWarden> TomTomTosch: not trying to.
3985 [22:26:17] <fwuffykat> yes, i need 32 bit and it is a laptop
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3987 [22:26:42] <markybob> fwuffykat:
replaced-url
3988 [22:26:59] <fwuffykat> is there a torrent alternative link?
3989 [22:27:15] <TomTomTosch> TheWarden, "Security should
come first." it does. usability is the problem with the stable
iceweasel version. i use the backports firefox too.
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3991 [22:27:41] <TheWarden> TomTomTosch: ok
3992 [22:27:44] <markybob> fwuffykat:
replaced-url
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3995 [22:29:36] <fwuffykat> why is the live cd less reliable than
the install cd's when performing a full installation?
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4004 [22:31:59] <Micky> I am trying to build a kernel and I keep
getting "Failed to create a ./debian directory: at
/usr/bin/make-kpkg line 996"
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4006 [22:32:13] <Micky> Anyone know why?
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4009 [22:32:35] <markybob> !make-kpkg
4010 [22:32:36] <dpkg> make-kpkg is no longer the recommended
method for building kernel packages. See <kernel handbook> for
current instructions. It can be used to make a debian package for a
custom kernel. See man make-kpkg, <kp mantra>. NOTE it does
not automatically create header packages, needed for
module-assistant and dkms.
4011 [22:32:49] <markybob> Micky: you need to use the right
methods. read the guide
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4019 [22:34:06] <Micky> dpkg: You are referring to this
replaced-url
4020 [22:34:06] <dpkg> I resemble that remark!
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4022 [22:34:37] <markybob> Micky: dpkg is a bot i called. and yes.
4023 [22:35:15] <Micky> markybob: Oops, thats embarrassing. Thanks
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4037 [22:44:20] <M4GNV5> ok so my pc freezed like 1h ago, after
hard resetting it said cpu temperature too high while booting so i
googled some stuff on measuring cpu temp. sensors tells me that my
cpu is running at 93°C (thats pretty high right), even though my
fan is running low (not much noise). Now i wanted to see if i can
manually run the fans on 100% but it looks like debian doesnt
recognize it (no fan rpm value given by sensors but like everyone
has them on
4038 [22:44:21] <M4GNV5> the help forums)? Im on a Samsung RF511,
here are some outputs:
replaced-url
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4044 [22:45:02] <M4GNV5> btw if you need more info feel free to
ask ;)
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4059 [22:53:26] <jmcnaught> M4GNV5: do you know what is making the
CPU so hot? I have thermald installed on my laptop, it scales the
CPU down when the temperature gets too high, might help you.
Figuring out what is using so much CPU would be good too
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4062 [22:54:17] <CharlieWONG> what
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4070 [22:56:54] <holms> what ip range should be to allow iptables
to connect from this kind of ip: 10.128.18.153 netmask: 255.255.0.0?
4071 [22:57:01] <holms> 10.0.0.0/24 doesn't work
4072 [22:57:12] <dvs> 10.0.0.0/16
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4074 [22:57:31] <holms> dvs: well tried this one also doesn't
work, but 10.0.0.0/8 works..
4075 [22:57:44] <holms> and i'm confused :} would be nice to
read about this, don't know what to google in her
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4081 [22:58:03] <Nimms> 10.128.0.0/16
4082 [22:58:06] <Nimms> No?
4083 [22:58:10] <holms> will try now
4084 [22:58:18] * dvs smacks himself
4085 [22:58:31] * RoyK helps
4086 [22:58:37] <dvs> ha
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4088 [22:59:31] <holms> Nimms: well 10.128.0.0/16 works
10.0.0.0/16 doesn't
4089 [22:59:48] <RoyK> which is rather logical
4090 [23:00:01] <holms> thanks :) RoyK yeah when you understand
subnetting.. me don't
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4092 [23:00:25] <M4GNV5> jmcnaught, well im not running anything
(replaced-url
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4095 [23:01:17] <RoyK> holms: with 255.255.0.0, you have 4 x 8
bits, so /16 just means the first 16 bits are matched, so,
10.128.0.0/16 means anything that matches 10.128.something
4096 [23:01:42] <holms> RoyK: 10.0.0.0/8 also works why :)
4097 [23:02:03] <RoyK> because /8 means "only match the first
8 bits", meaning "10"
4098 [23:02:09] <holms> oh
4099 [23:02:42] <holms> gratefull
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4101 [23:02:59] <holms> RoyK: any link for theory if it's not
hard please :)?
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4104 [23:03:20] <joshjh> M4GVN is your machine air cooled?. Did
you look at CPU heatsink?
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4112 [23:05:16] <RoyK> holms:
replaced-url
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4115 [23:05:45] <holms> RoyK: thanks. i've had coursera
course about internet history. i just don't recall that ranges
would be there..
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4117 [23:06:12] <RoyK> holms: that video looked ok
4118 [23:06:31] <holms> sometimes i wish i'd finish
university :D although in my country 80% of courses are crap..
4119 [23:06:53] <holms> but would know networking at least =/
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4123 [23:08:24] <Nimms> holms, there are some networking courses
at Microsoft Virtual Academy.
4124 [23:08:36] <Nimms> Just kidding. =D
4125 [23:08:40] <holms> evil name in channel mentioned :D
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4128 [23:09:14] <holms> not opensource knowledge :DD
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4140 [23:12:12] <RippyDippy> Hey guys, what exactly does the
bashrc 'expand_aliases' do?
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4153 [23:15:13] <RippyDippy> Nevermind, got it.
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4181 [23:28:57] <CharlieWONG> hbbjvvh
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4184 [23:29:06] <dvs> vf ggjf
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4186 [23:29:18] <simonlnu> blah blah hkh
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4194 [23:33:03] <Utils> Has anyone installed PHP7 from Dotdeb that
can spare a few moments to help me? Not sure the best place to ask.
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4196 [23:34:19] <hanshenrik> i have
4197 [23:34:29] <Brigo> Utils, it is not supported here ...
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4225 [23:42:43] <CryptoManiac> I ran "cat /dev/zero >
zero.dat ; sync ; sleep 1 ; sync ; rm zero.dat" on a debian
virtual instance running on Hyper-V. I got the advice from a forum
as I was trying to compact the .vhd file. Unfortunately the Hyper-V
host ran out of space during the procedure and the os starting
showing segfaults. Tried to reboot and now the system stays in
initramfs.
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4245 [23:48:48] <CryptoManiac> I ran "cat /dev/zero >
zero.dat ; sync ; sleep 1 ; sync ; rm zero.dat" on a debian
virtual instance running on Hyper-V. I got the advice from a forum
as I was trying to compact the .vhd file. Unfortunately the Hyper-V
host ran out of space during the procedure and the os starting
showing segfaults. Tried to reboot and now the system stays in
initramfs.
4246 [23:48:59] <CryptoManiac>
replaced-url
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4250 [23:49:32] <Triski> CryptoManiac, is there free space?
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4252 [23:50:23] <CryptoManiac> yes
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4254 [23:50:54] <Triski> checked dmesg for any info?
4255 [23:51:04] <CryptoManiac>
replaced-url
4256 [23:51:09] <CryptoManiac> not yet
4257 [23:51:24] <CryptoManiac> i think the partition is damaged
and needs to be repaired
4258 [23:51:35] <CryptoManiac> is there a way I can do that from
initramfs?
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4260 [23:52:00] <Triski> seems like udev could not map the device,
so no root partition is mounted
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4265 [23:52:59] <ewew> it may depend on the fact if its possible
to mount root and the relevant tool is available in this state.
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4267 [23:53:31] <CryptoManiac> The funny thing is that it is
looking for files in /root which is the home dir of the root user
4268 [23:53:40] <markybob> main problem is you ran it as root so
the reserved root space got eaten up and not protected
4269 [23:53:44] <CryptoManiac> could this be because i ran the
command while I was in root?
4270 [23:53:57] <markybob> boot with a live cd, mount /, then rm
the file
4271 [23:54:33] <Triski> do you have any hyper-v snapshot you can
roll back
4272 [23:54:33] <CryptoManiac> which file will I have to rm?
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4274 [23:54:51] <CryptoManiac> Unfortunately not. :-(
4275 [23:54:59] <markybob> zero.dat. i don't believe it got
removed.
4276 [23:55:27] <Triski> sometimes the file is not removed until
you sync your filesystem
4277 [23:55:59] <CryptoManiac> so there's still some hope for
me
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4279 [23:56:08] <Triski> try the above, use a bootable rescue to
access the root partition and clean and fsck it
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4281 [23:56:14] <markybob> CryptoManiac: yeah i think you'll
be fine if you follow what i said. hopefully :P
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4283 [23:56:38] <CryptoManiac> Thank you markybob and Triski: Will
hold thumbs and try. :-)
4284 [23:56:41] <CryptoManiac> Happy easter by the way
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4286 [23:57:07] <Triski> happy easter CryptoManiac!
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