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• 4[00:00:26] <nilekada> jmcnaught: Well said. We live and we learn ;)
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• 11[00:01:16] <jmcnaught> nilekada: actually i don't even know what putting stuff in icons means, i haven't used KDE in a long time
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• 14[00:01:21] <cygnusx1> try this greenguy
• 15[00:01:24] <cygnusx1> replaced-url
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• 20[00:02:22] <bubba> how do I install gparted when it's not available in the synaptic package manager??
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• 22[00:02:26] <greenguy> cygnusx1: That is what I'm using! Can't find any info on how to change the actual csserver script settings though :/
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• 24[00:02:36] <greenguy> cygnusx1: maybe I'm missing somethhing
• 25[00:02:39] <somiaj> bubba: sounds like your sources are not configured correctly.
• 26[00:02:44] <somiaj> ,v gparted
• 27[00:02:45] <judd> Package: gparted on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.7.0-1; wheezy: 0.12.1-2+b1; jessie: 0.19.0-2; sid: 0.25.0-1; stretch: 0.25.0-1
• 28[00:02:50] <macboy> hi, howto change to console boot in new debian 8?
• 29[00:02:51] <somiaj> bubba: you are running debian-jessie?
• 30[00:02:56] <cygnusx1> bubba open a terminal and type this: sudo apt-get install gparted
• 31[00:03:05] <somiaj> macboy: what do you mean by console boot, you just want to disable your display manager from loading?
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• 33[00:03:17] <macboy> this sstupid version for default boot in X and not change to console ctrl+alt+fX don't work
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• 35[00:03:21] <cygnusx1> greenguy give me a min and i'll research this
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• 37[00:03:41] <somiaj> cygnusx1: synampitc doens't always play as nice with apt as one would like. Probabaly best to figure out what sources are missing in symaptic if that is the packagemanager bubba wants.
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• 39[00:04:02] <somiaj> macboy: ahh debugging, and you want to jsut take the display manager out of the issue
• 40[00:04:06] <somiaj> !nodpm
• 41[00:04:14] <somiaj> !nodm
• 42[00:04:14] <dpkg> Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (replaced-url
• 43[00:04:24] <greenguy> cygnusx1: Real nice of you to help out!
• 44[00:04:32] <somiaj> macboy: that line about /etc/X11/default-display-manager, put 'false' in there but also make sure you know what is in there now so you can revert it
• 45[00:04:32] <cygnusx1> replaced-url
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• 48[00:04:39] <cygnusx1> this looks like a better guide
• 49[00:05:04] <cygnusx1> and if it works on ubuntu it very well should on debian
• 50[00:05:32] <nilekada> jmcnaught: neither do I
• 51[00:05:35] <cygnusx1> that guide go into a bit of detail regarding creation of the server.cfg
• 52[00:05:35] <nilekada> ;P
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• 56[00:06:07] <jmcnaught> macboy: you can also set the systemd default target (what it calls runlevels) to multi-user. "systemctl get-default" to see current default (probably graphical.target), "systemctl set-default multi-user" to set the default. "systemctl isolate multi-user" to switch to that target immediately
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• 69[00:10:55] <greenguy> cygnusx1: I think I figured it out, the cs-server.cfg file is put there with the settings you pick when you install using the script, then you have to make your server.cfg or rename it. Atleast that is my guess, I will try now :)
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• 72[00:11:16] <cygnusx1> sounds correct greenguy
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• 74[00:11:22] <cygnusx1> best of luck man :)
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• 78[00:13:39] <greenguy> Thanks! :)
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• 80[00:14:29] <macboy> HOWTO FU.,....... change this stupid stupid and very stupid graphical boot in debian ?????? i need the text mode !!!!!!
• 81[00:14:32] <macboy> ?
• 82[00:14:40] <macboy> debian 8
• 83[00:14:51] <cra1g321> if in doubt, blame the computer....
• 84[00:15:47] <jmcnaught> macboy: maybe you missed my message earlier. "systemctl set-default mutli-user". Read up on system targets (which replace the runlevel concept) if you want to know more
• 85[00:16:05] <jmcnaught> s/mutli-user/multi-user/
• 86[00:16:14] <cygnusx1> macboy edit your grub
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• 88[00:16:19] <cygnusx1> replaced-url
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• 90[00:16:53] <jmcnaught> cygnusx1: editing grub for this is not necessary with systemd. setting the default target is all you need to do
• 91[00:17:32] <okee> jmcnaught> An interesting thing just happened. If you mount the windows os as /media/asd/Windows, then it shows up in the gui, but it still won't display the contents of the drive. Also, I do need to change the names of the items in the menu, that windows is a apart of Centos is also part of the menu.
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• 94[00:18:36] <cygnusx1> jmcnaught: ah ok, thanks for the clarification
• 95[00:18:39] <jmcnaught> okee: i don't know what you mean about the menu. NTFS support in the linux kernel is read-only. There is an ntfs-3g tool that provides read/write
• 96[00:18:58] <jmcnaught> okee: replaced-url
• 97[00:19:17] <okee> jmcnaught> I have always had ntfs-3g on here, and prior to the upgrade there was no problem.
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• 101[00:20:39] <greenguy> cygnusx1: So there was actually a server.cfg that used exec to load the cs-server.cfg. But it obviously does not seem to work so I will put my config straight in there :)
• 102[00:20:49] <jmcnaught> okee: then you're not using it correctly, check out the wiki page. i don't use NTFS at all.
• 103[00:20:57] <cygnusx1> good thinking greenguy
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• 105[00:21:15] <okee> jmcnaught> I no longer use windows, and this is a remnant, but it has a lot of data on the drive.
• 106[00:21:17] <greenguy> cygnusx1: Now, if I find a server.txt online, can I use wget replaced-url
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• 108[00:21:27] <cygnusx1> yes greenguy
• 109[00:21:41] <greenguy> cygnusx1: Awesome, I'm hooked
• 110[00:21:49] <cygnusx1> haha
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• 112[00:21:57] <cygnusx1> new to linux?
• 113[00:22:02] <greenguy> Yes
• 114[00:22:12] <cygnusx1> ah, welcome to the family
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• 118[00:23:12] <cygnusx1> you have a long road ahead, with many obstacles, but when you become a superuser you will cherish every lesson learned
• 119[00:23:14] <greenguy> Hey thanks! :)
• 120[00:23:15] <jmcnaught> okee: i think it's as simple as replacing "ntfs" with "ntfs-3g" in the mount command. see that wiki page i linked to, it has an example line for /etc/fstab
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• 123[00:23:42] <macboy> HOWTO FUCKING CHANGE TO CONSOLE TEXT IN DEBIAN STUPID 8 ? thanksd very fucking much
• 124[00:23:45] <macboy> stupid version
• 125[00:23:50] <macboy> stupid fucking systemd
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• 127[00:23:55] <cygnusx1> rude
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• 130[00:23:56] <greenguy> cygnusx1: I will try arch linux sometime next week! Is it too soon?
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• 133[00:24:05] <cygnusx1> naw arch is cool
• 134[00:24:06] <cra1g321> if in doubt, blame the computer, blame systemd....
• 135[00:24:08] <okee> jmcnaught> Also, the instructions indicate the OS should go in /mnt, and not /media. That too might be a problem.
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• 137[00:24:13] <cra1g321> anything else you wanna blame but yourself macboy ?
• 138[00:24:22] <cygnusx1> i get so tired of systemd bashing -__-
• 139[00:24:46] <cygnusx1> people complain about it literally because they have no idea of how it functions
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• 141[00:25:07] <somiaj> that's enough systemd chatter. Lets get back to debian.
• 142[00:25:11] <jmcnaught> okee: it's not really that important. I treat /mnt as a temporary place if i'm mounting a filesystem for few minutes, and /media as a place for filesystems i mount regularly
• 143[00:25:14] <cra1g321> amen
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• 145[00:25:33] <cygnusx1> agreed jmcnaught
• 146[00:26:00] <stew> that's what the FHS says
• 147[00:26:03] <cygnusx1> i made folders labeled 1 2 3 and 4 in /mnt just for using to mount things
• 148[00:26:04] <stew> about /mnt and /media
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• 151[00:27:40] <nilekada> jmcnaught: found the list. Exhausting to get through. I'll probably go through a '10 things to do after installing Debian' or something
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• 153[00:28:07] <jmcnaught> nilekada: what list did you find? i have goldfish memory today.
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• 161[00:30:35] <jmcnaught> nilekada: oh do you mean the things to check before upgrading in the release notes? it's not so bad really, and you can decide which ones are relevant to your system. also it's better to be do that stuff before the upgrade than to spend a few hours fixing a botched upgrade
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• 173[00:36:35] <greenguy> Is there any way to select all text in a file using nano?
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• 175[00:36:50] <greenguy> in text based debian
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• 180[00:37:33] <greenguy> nvm that, found it :)
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• 186[00:40:20] <cygnusx1> lol i was about to tell ya
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• 203[00:48:01] <nilekada> jmcnaught: the list is at any of the sites from which you can download a CD/DVD image.
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• 207[00:48:29] <nilekada> But it's not particularly user-friendly
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• 209[00:49:04] <nilekada> It should be in the same directory as the CD/DVD images
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• 212[00:50:04] <jmcnaught> nilekada: oh.. downloading all the cd/dvd images is probably a waste of time too. apt-get can get all that stuff from the network on-demand
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• 215[00:50:50] <nilekada> jmcnaught: true. I just thought it was nice to have everything at once
• 216[00:51:03] <nilekada> 8-)
• 217[00:51:19] <okee> jmcnaught> For reasons unknown, the main NTFS directory still won't show up, and none of the other directories are displaying their contents -- even after using mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/drive-name /media/location
• 218[00:51:53] <jmcnaught> nilekada: i use apt-cacher-ng, so each package only gets fetched frm the mirrors once, and all the machines in my LAN just get the local copy. easy, almost magic level easy
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• 222[00:53:41] <okee> Got to Run. Catch you tomorrow.
• 223[00:54:38] <jmcnaught> okee: until next time :)
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• 225[00:54:55] <frank1e> hello!
• 226[00:55:03] <frank1e> guys i could use your help I think
• 227[00:55:06] <nilekada> jmcnaught: I only have my laptop ;)
• 228[00:55:13] <okee> jmcnaught> Can't figure it out. Not sure what is going on. If hardware is bad, it is the one I am on, and not the drives I am trying to access.
• 229[00:55:13] <cygnusx1> whats up frank1e?
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• 231[00:55:46] <nilekada> Not any other machines I'll be doing that for.
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• 233[00:56:53] <jmcnaught> nilekada: actually i have a VM on my laptop running apt-cacher-ng, used by the other VMs and containers
• 234[00:57:13] <frank1e> I got this infected Windows HDD (which has some cryptolocker, active and encrypting, didn't let him finish because i caught him encrypting my HDD in the act.)
• 235[00:57:14] <frank1e> So I got to rescue my not-yet-encrypted-data from this HDD to a brand new hdd. Without infecting the host computer or the new HDD. Which means -> I need to have the infected HDD in read only mode. Does Debian mount as read only by default if I use a live CD?
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• 237[00:57:20] <jmcnaught> okee: i doubt the hardware is bad since you said it mounted as read-only earlier.
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• 239[00:57:39] <cygnusx1> no frank1e
• 240[00:57:46] <cygnusx1> it mounts as rw by default
• 241[00:57:58] <cygnusx1> but you can mount it yourself as read-only
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• 243[00:58:10] <frank1e> cygnusx1 ok how do I mount an HDD as read only? (No experience with terminal commands btw)
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• 245[00:58:39] <cygnusx1> does your pc support having 2 hdds connected?
• 246[00:58:40] <okee> jmcnaught> There might be a problem with the memory. Rebooting is a sign of memory problems. I can't view memtest86+.iso after copying it to the desktop, but can see it in Centos. My best guess is the hard drive is probably ok, but I am not convinced the memory is. It needs to be tested.
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• 249[00:59:09] <cygnusx1> okee grub should have a memtest line
• 250[00:59:21] <jmcnaught> okee: so you're getting random reboots?
• 251[00:59:28] <frank1e> cygnusx1 3 to be exact. but I can only run a live-CD-OS, since my windows HDD is infected now. Which OS should I chose for this special task?
• 252[00:59:33] <Roland2> anyone knows if I can use an infiniband cables to cx4 ethernet?
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• 254[00:59:51] <cygnusx1> frank1e i would go with linux for this task
• 255[00:59:52] <okee> jmcnaught> I have had a few when trying to open a file on the desktop, and also open the file system.
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• 257[01:00:13] <okee> jmcnaught> This acts like bad memory.
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• 259[01:00:16] <frank1e> cygnusx1 ok so my guess for debian wasn't that wrong. which one would you recommend exactly and what would I need to do?
• 260[01:00:28] <nilekada> jmcnaught: thank you for putting me in my place :-)
• 261[01:00:28] <cygnusx1> debian 8
• 262[01:00:32] <jmcnaught> okee: anything in the logs about it?
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• 264[01:01:02] <frank1e> cygnusx1 just want to drag&drop some folders off that hdd into a new hdd. that's all. without having the HDD decrypt more and more, which is why I need some easy to use OS which mounts it as read-only
• 265[01:01:26] <cygnusx1> ok use debian 8
• 266[01:01:28] <frank1e> (correct me pls if my basic thoughts are wrong here)
• 267[01:01:29] <nilekada> Mine is a local installation. To my hard disk
• 268[01:01:30] <cygnusx1> or any debian
• 269[01:01:33] <jmcnaught> nilekada: oh you're welcome i guess. i wasn't trying to put you in your place, i just like to share the joy that is reading documentation and preventing botched upgrades :)
• 270[01:01:48] <cygnusx1> and boot from a live cd or usb
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• 272[01:02:01] <frank1e> cygnusx1 ok hold on please. are you online here maybe still in 3-5 mins?
• 273[01:02:10] <frank1e> would be awesome.
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• 275[01:02:12] <nilekada> jmcnaught: That's good. I have no problem with that. I was referring to the VM setup
• 276[01:02:13] <cygnusx1> ill be here for another hour at least
• 277[01:02:22] <frank1e> ok great thanks cygnusx1, brb
• 278[01:02:26] <cygnusx1> np
• 279[01:02:32] <okee> jmcnaught> Which one should I look at? And what am I looking for ? when CD/ into the newly created windows at command line, I get a lot of I/O errors when trying to CD into the Windows at the command line.
• 280[01:02:46] <jmcnaught> nilekada: oh, well my host OS is Debian too, and it uses the apt-cacher-ng VM as well.
• 281[01:03:14] <jmcnaught> okee: web search the errors and/or put them in a paste
• 282[01:03:38] <nilekada> jmcnaught: see what I mean? You're literally humbling me. ;) Why the roundabout-ness though?
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• 284[01:03:58] <nilekada> How does the VM fit in?
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• 288[01:05:38] <jmcnaught> nilekada: the VM is a self-contained caching proxy for apt. i have it in a VM instead of on the host system so that it keeps everything in one place. and because i felt like it.
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• 290[01:06:09] <nilekada> jmcnaught: interesting arrangement I must say
• 291[01:06:12] <jmcnaught> nilekada: that VM also provides netboot/PXE on the virtual network used by my other VMs
• 292[01:06:32] <nilekada> jmcnaught: that's cool.
• 293[01:06:47] <nilekada> Shall keep this in mind for labs and such
• 294[01:06:48] <jmcnaught> nilekada: but it's mostly so i don't have to wait for packages to download if they've already been downloaded once. my internet is not that fast.
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• 296[01:07:20] <frank1e> cygnusx1 which of these images should i download? I have an Intel processor if that matters.
• 297[01:07:22] <frank1e> replaced-url
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• 299[01:07:44] <nilekada> jmcnaught: that's a great thought.
• 300[01:07:50] <frank1e> cygnusx1 or from this link? replaced-url
• 301[01:08:00] <cygnusx1> debian-live-8.3.0-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso
• 302[01:08:05] <cygnusx1> from the first link
• 303[01:08:14] <frank1e> cygnusx1 alright thanks, loading
• 304[01:08:19] <cygnusx1> yea man
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• 308[01:09:15] <frank1e> jesus these cryptolockers are becoming a real horror..
• 309[01:09:29] <frank1e> real glad i had big luck here..
• 310[01:09:35] <okee> jmcnaught> These are the errors I was talking about. Opening every directory ends up with I/O errors. replaced-url
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• 313[01:11:35] <jmcnaught> okee: maybe there are more useful errors in the journal or syslog, but you might need to research ntfs-3g a little more, or find someone more knowledgeable about it. That it exists is pretty much all i know
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• 324[01:15:19] <okee> jmcnaught> How do I access the journal?
• 325[01:15:30] <jmcnaught> okee: journalctl
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• 329[01:17:19] <okee> jmcnaught> There is nothing in jounralctl. Also, I completely lost my audio from the microphone, in all USB ports on the compute. I can hear people on the other side, but they can't hear me. Looks like my upgrade to Jessie was a little rough.
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• 331[01:17:56] <okee> jmcnaught> I got to run. Catch you later.
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• 336[01:20:41] <cygnusx1> let me know when you get that liveboot running frank1e. are you gonna burn a dvd or use a usb drive for it?
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• 338[01:21:54] <frank1e> cygnusx1 burning it do a dvd right now
• 339[01:21:59] <frank1e> takes a little while
• 340[01:22:02] <cygnusx1> awesome
• 341[01:22:24] <cygnusx1> my internet it would of taken an hour at least to even download that
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• 344[01:23:49] <frank1e> finding an empty dvd is the hardest right now.. hold on.
• 345[01:24:00] <cygnusx1> lol
• 346[01:24:21] <frank1e> how do i even burn that image to a dvd in os x. this new os x is confusing
• 347[01:24:26] <frank1e> god pls kill me
• 348[01:24:33] <cygnusx1> i dont use apple
• 349[01:24:40] <cygnusx1> i can google it though
• 350[01:24:47] <frank1e> nono all good
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• 352[01:25:35] <cygnusx1> you need to use disk utility
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• 354[01:26:01] <dimitry7> I hate apple
• 355[01:26:02] <frank1e> Apple removed the ability to burn disc images from Disk Utility in OS X 10.11 and newer,
• 356[01:26:05] <dimitry7> i hate iphone
• 357[01:26:09] <frank1e> me too.
• 358[01:26:16] <dimitry7> frank1e, give me a 5!
• 359[01:26:22] <dimitry7> * 5
• 360[01:26:30] <cygnusx1> replaced-url
• 361[01:26:41] <cygnusx1> Launch 'Disk Utility' (Applications → Utilities → Disk Utility).
• 362[01:26:44] <teraflops> So much hate. You need therapy :p
• 363[01:26:55] <frank1e> ahh hold on pls nearly got it
• 364[01:26:57] <cygnusx1> insert dvd
• 365[01:27:01] <cygnusx1> Drag and drop your .iso file to the left pane in Disk Utility. Now both the blank disc and the .iso should be listed.
• 366[01:27:17] <cygnusx1> Select the .iso file, and click on the 'Burn' button in the toolbar.
• 367[01:27:33] <frank1e> got it
• 368[01:27:38] <frank1e> it's burning. thank the lord
• 369[01:27:47] <cygnusx1> haha cool
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• 372[01:28:12] <frank1e> brb medication, give me 10-15 mins pls. don't run away yet :O
• 373[01:28:22] <markybob> frank1e is this a laptop?
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• 378[01:29:14] <cygnusx1> i'll be here bud
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• 403[01:45:14] <frank1e> cygnusx1, pardon the delay, am back. factory new hdd is plugged in at my PC. Disc burned,
• 404[01:45:23] <frank1e> and i'm booting now.
• 405[01:45:34] <cygnusx1> and they bad hdd is plugged in as well?
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• 407[01:45:47] <frank1e> planning to add the infected hdd later after the boot, just to be safe, via an external HDD USB frame
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• 409[01:45:53] <cygnusx1> ah
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• 411[01:45:56] <frank1e> because
• 412[01:45:56] <cygnusx1> good thinking
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• 414[01:46:21] <frank1e> no idea how nasty this version of ransomware is, and if it may do stuff on it's own on boot when it's plugged in while booting
• 415[01:46:26] <frank1e> because it did that before twice.
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• 417[01:46:39] <frank1e> like it booted a whole different windows 7 instance.
• 418[01:46:47] <frank1e> which is weird as hell. anyway. booting
• 419[01:46:58] <cygnusx1> wow
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• 425[01:48:17] <frank1e> yay booting debian :) been a while since i tried myself at this OS. love linux, but am not that good with all these terminal cmds
• 426[01:49:13] <frank1e> Boot menu: Live (amd64), Live (amd64 failsave)
• 427[01:49:26] <cygnusx1> regular
• 428[01:49:35] <dvs> unleaded
• 429[01:49:42] <cygnusx1> yes
• 430[01:49:44] <frank1e> fuck. wait
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• 432[01:50:12] <cygnusx1> ?
• 433[01:50:21] <frank1e> boot menu doesn't like my keyboard. doesn't work. trying out another one brb
• 434[01:50:38] <cygnusx1> k
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• 440[01:53:48] <frank1e> ok ready
• 441[01:53:53] <cygnusx1> ok
• 442[01:53:54] <frank1e> what are your next orders captain
• 443[01:54:08] <markybob> frank1e: doesn't mac use uefi?
• 444[01:54:13] <frank1e> uh
• 445[01:54:17] <cygnusx1> open a terminal
• 446[01:54:18] <markybob> frank1e: live doesn't support uefi
• 447[01:54:26] <frank1e> yes ok
• 448[01:54:44] <cygnusx1> then type : cd /dev
• 449[01:54:45] <frank1e> everything on debian is -very- tiny here. textlabels all are like 1pt text size. weird.
• 450[01:54:46] <markybob> i'm asking. i've never had a mac
• 451[01:54:47] <frank1e> ok
• 452[01:55:24] <cygnusx1> after you get to /dev type: ls
• 453[01:55:32] <frank1e> hold on
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• 457[01:55:51] <frank1e> where can i change the keyboard layout. it's all in US instead of DE
• 458[01:56:01] <frank1e> settings i guess somewhere
• 459[01:56:20] <cygnusx1> 1sec
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• 463[01:56:55] <Vainglory> frank1e: All Settings -> Keyboard -> Keyboard layouts
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• 468[01:57:35] <dvs> dpkg-reconfigure locales
• 469[01:57:48] <cygnusx1> dpkg-reconfigure console-data
• 470[01:57:59] <cygnusx1> for keyboard layout
• 471[01:58:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1670
• 472[01:58:08] <cygnusx1> locales is just for default language
• 473[01:58:16] <dvs> ah
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• 475[01:58:34] <frank1e> got the kb issue
• 476[01:58:42] <frank1e> ls done
• 477[01:59:00] <cygnusx1> is sda one of the files it listed?
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• 480[01:59:11] <frank1e> yes
• 481[01:59:14] <cygnusx1> ok good
• 482[01:59:20] <cygnusx1> connect the other drive now
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• 484[01:59:33] <cygnusx1> just making sure that it will be sdb
• 485[01:59:45] <frank1e> ok. how do I know it got my factory new hdd?
• 486[01:59:56] <cygnusx1> sda is the new drive
• 487[01:59:58] <frank1e> (factory new is plugged in, but didn't format it yet or anything)
• 488[02:00:01] <frank1e> oh ok
• 489[02:00:14] <cygnusx1> sdb will be what it calls the bad one
• 490[02:00:32] <cygnusx1> i did this to make sure we use the right syntax to mount it
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• 492[02:00:59] <frank1e> ok both plugged in
• 493[02:01:01] <frank1e> first
• 494[02:01:13] <cygnusx1> ok do ls again and see if sdb shows up
• 495[02:01:15] <frank1e> i would need to set it to read only i think
• 496[02:01:16] <frank1e> ok
• 497[02:01:19] <cygnusx1> no
• 498[02:01:23] <cygnusx1> we will get to that
• 499[02:01:28] <cygnusx1> it isnt mounted yet
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• 501[02:02:00] <frank1e> now i have:
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• 503[02:02:14] <frank1e> sda, sdb, sdb1, sdb2
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• 505[02:02:33] <cygnusx1> good
• 506[02:02:44] <dvs> no, sda is empty! ;-)
• 507[02:02:50] <cygnusx1> it should be
• 508[02:02:55] <cygnusx1> its a new drivve
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• 510[02:03:00] <frank1e> :F
• 511[02:03:07] <frank1e> we could check
• 512[02:03:14] <cygnusx1> sure
• 513[02:03:16] <cygnusx1> ls -l
• 514[02:03:27] <frank1e> woah
• 515[02:03:27] <frank1e> uh
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• 517[02:03:33] <frank1e> it lists a lot
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• 519[02:03:59] <cygnusx1> basically all that is is info on permissions for the different partitions
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• 521[02:04:08] <frank1e> oh okay
• 522[02:04:17] <frank1e> i thought
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• 524[02:04:26] <frank1e> anyway.
• 525[02:04:32] <cygnusx1> ok so moving on
• 526[02:04:33] <frank1e> what now :)
• 527[02:04:57] <cygnusx1> now we mount it. we will assume sdb1 is the system partition and sdb2 is where your files are
• 528[02:05:18] <frank1e> :o hope so
• 529[02:05:29] <cygnusx1> ok now
• 530[02:05:32] <frank1e> sdb1 wasn't there before i plugged the bad one in btw
• 531[02:05:32] <cygnusx1> sudo su
• 532[02:05:36] <frank1e> ok
• 533[02:05:49] <cygnusx1> done?
• 534[02:06:01] <frank1e> yes
• 535[02:06:03] <frank1e> sudo su
• 536[02:06:04] <cygnusx1> mkdir /media/files
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• 538[02:06:37] <frank1e> done
• 539[02:06:39] <cygnusx1> mount -o ro /dev/sdb2 /media/files
• 540[02:07:15] <frank1e> ok no errors yet
• 541[02:07:19] <cygnusx1> good
• 542[02:07:32] <cygnusx1> now just open the folders in your DE and do what you want
• 543[02:07:45] <cygnusx1> its mounted in /media/files
• 544[02:07:55] <frank1e> uhm ok hold on let me check
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• 547[02:09:02] <frank1e> if i open the folder window it shows as mounted volumes: File System, System-reserved and the bad drive i need to rescue specific files from
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• 549[02:09:16] <cygnusx1> yes
• 550[02:09:20] <cygnusx1> it should
• 551[02:09:23] <frank1e> no idea where to find the other drive now
• 552[02:09:31] <cygnusx1> it isnt mounted
• 553[02:09:31] <frank1e> the new one
• 554[02:09:34] <frank1e> oh ok
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• 556[02:10:02] <cygnusx1> you probably need to partition it
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• 558[02:10:14] <cygnusx1> apt-get install gparted
• 559[02:10:16] <frank1e> oh. could you maybe help me out with that too?
• 560[02:10:18] <frank1e> ok
• 561[02:10:22] <cygnusx1> yes i sure can
• 562[02:10:33] <Lehnux> hi i'm back it's 2 AM in switzerland
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• 564[02:10:45] <cygnusx1> wb lehnux
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• 566[02:11:15] <greenguy> cygnusx1: Hi, may I ask another short question?
• 567[02:11:21] <cygnusx1> sure greenguy
• 568[02:11:37] <Lehnux> I'm just here to look at the meassages I'm too asleep to have some king of thinking
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• 572[02:12:07] <frank1e> cygnusx1, loading
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• 577[02:13:09] <frank1e> cygnusx1 done
• 578[02:13:17] <greenguy> cygnusx1: I'm trying to copy the text from the server.cfg that I downloaded using wget before. But I cant figure out how to select all, and cut in nano. So I thought maybe I can use wget adress/server.cfg <path> and then rename it? Will it ask me to replace when I do so or..? Maybe there is a better way.
• 579[02:13:38] <greenguy> -O
• 580[02:13:50] <cygnusx1> 1sec greenguy
• 581[02:13:56] <greenguy> wget adress -O dir
• 582[02:13:58] <greenguy> np!
• 583[02:14:16] <cygnusx1> ok frank1e now go to menu then system and select gparted
• 584[02:14:27] <frank1e> alright
• 585[02:14:34] <jmcnaught> greenguy: as you get more familiar with Linux you'll learn a more sophisticated editor than nano. Eventually you'll have to choose between vim and emacs. There is no middle ground here :)
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• 587[02:14:51] <cygnusx1> greenguy just change the file name to server.cfg
• 588[02:14:53] <greenguy> I hear vim is good.
• 589[02:14:54] <frank1e> uhm -- where is gparted at? cygnusx1
• 590[02:15:03] <frank1e> *where exactly
• 591[02:15:12] <cygnusx1> mv filename.whatever server.cfg
• 592[02:15:17] <frank1e> nvm
• 593[02:15:18] <frank1e> got it
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• 598[02:15:32] <jmcnaught> greenguy: vim is great, so is emacs. they both have a bit of a learning curve
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• 600[02:15:52] <cygnusx1> ok when it finishes loading gparted click the top left button and select devices then choose sda
• 601[02:16:12] <cygnusx1> i think the button in the top left is labeled gparted
• 602[02:16:30] <frank1e> cygnusx1, it already showed an allocated space device thing with like 1 TB missing
• 603[02:16:38] <frank1e> device -> create partition table?
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• 605[02:16:56] <cygnusx1> yes
• 606[02:16:59] <frank1e> ok
• 607[02:17:04] <cygnusx1> make sure its sda
• 608[02:17:10] <cygnusx1> before you do this
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• 610[02:17:50] <frank1e> "Warning: This will ERASE ALL DATA on the ENTIRE DISK /dev/sda. Select new partition table type: (...)"
• 611[02:17:51] <greenguy> Ok, so I start by using wget -O to download the new file to the server config folder. Then use mw newfile.cfg server.cfg to rename the file. Will it replace the old one by doing that?
• 612[02:17:55] <cygnusx1> did you choose sda?
• 613[02:17:59] <frank1e> i have mixed feelings about this
• 614[02:17:59] <cygnusx1> if so then proceed
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• 616[02:18:06] <cygnusx1> there is no data on it
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• 618[02:18:12] <frank1e> ok
• 619[02:18:23] <cygnusx1> mv greenguy,but yes
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• 621[02:18:40] <cygnusx1> it always gives that warning frank1e
• 622[02:18:47] <greenguy> Cool, I'll try that! Thanks :)
• 623[02:18:48] <frank1e> which partition type should i choose cygnusx1? I plan to mount it on a Mac OS and another clean Win 7 System in the future
• 624[02:18:51] <cygnusx1> its so you dont accidently do the wrong thing
• 625[02:18:52] <frank1e> ok
• 626[02:18:55] <cygnusx1> ext4
• 627[02:19:03] <cygnusx1> oh
• 628[02:19:05] <cygnusx1> msdos
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• 630[02:19:15] <frank1e> *I have like really big single files on there
• 631[02:19:19] <frank1e> no idea if that helps
• 632[02:19:24] <cygnusx1> msdos partition table
• 633[02:19:28] <frank1e> uhh
• 634[02:19:29] <frank1e> ok
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• 637[02:19:42] <cygnusx1> then select the unallocated space and right click it and choose new
• 638[02:19:59] <cygnusx1> then make a partition of your desired size
• 639[02:20:00] <frank1e> i can't read if it says 1.82 TB or 1.02 TB. everything is ultra tiny lol
• 640[02:20:06] <frank1e> ok 1 sec
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• 642[02:20:24] <cygnusx1> if you plan on putting windows here make it fat32
• 643[02:20:30] <cygnusx1> if linux make it ext4
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• 646[02:20:39] <frank1e> no no, only let it read by a win system
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• 648[02:20:49] <frank1e> i want to read it on win and mac
• 649[02:20:49] <cygnusx1> fat32
• 650[02:21:06] <frank1e> :D so fat32? ok hope it works with files +4GB
• 651[02:21:12] <cygnusx1> it does not
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• 653[02:21:26] <cygnusx1> fat32 only supports files less than 4gb
• 654[02:21:43] <cygnusx1> you need to make it ntfs for larger ones
• 655[02:22:02] <frank1e> ok
• 656[02:22:05] <frank1e> i just let all other dropdown menus there at default now and okay it
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• 659[02:22:37] <cygnusx1> i would not use the whole disk either. keep a few gbs in reserve
• 660[02:22:53] <cygnusx1> 2-3 at least
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• 662[02:23:19] <frank1e> oh ok
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• 665[02:23:44] <cygnusx1> just in case you do decide to install linux or need another partition for something
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• 667[02:24:24] <cygnusx1> and also once you install windows it may erase the disk.
• 668[02:24:25] <frank1e> ok it has 2 rows now with 1.79 TB (ntfs) and the other unallocated space
• 669[02:24:46] <frank1e> now we can mount it i think
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• 671[02:24:52] <cygnusx1> yes
• 672[02:24:59] <cygnusx1> go to your terminal
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• 674[02:25:32] <frank1e> yepyep
• 675[02:25:34] <cygnusx1> mkdir /media/new
• 676[02:25:52] <Wagaaa> Hi! How can I install PyQt5 on Debian?
• 677[02:26:01] <frank1e> cygnusx1 ok done
• 678[02:26:03] <cygnusx1> mount -o rw /dev/sda1 /media/new
• 679[02:26:33] <cygnusx1> its sda1 and not sda because we just made a partition on it in case you are wondering
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• 683[02:26:56] <frank1e> cygnusx1 "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
• 684[02:26:59] <frank1e> "
• 685[02:27:08] <cygnusx1> ok
• 686[02:27:16] <cygnusx1> cd /dev
• 687[02:27:22] <markybob> Wagaaa: apt-get install python-pyqt5
• 688[02:27:24] <frank1e> yup
• 689[02:27:27] <greenguy> Do I need to cd to that location before using mv?
• 690[02:27:27] <cygnusx1> then ls
• 691[02:27:30] <jmcnaught> Wagaaa: are you using Jessie? there are python-pyqt5 and python3-pyqt5 packages
• 692[02:27:36] <cygnusx1> and see what it has for sda
• 693[02:27:38] <frank1e> yup
• 694[02:27:43] <frank1e> 1sec
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• 696[02:27:48] <Wagaaa> markybob: devel
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• 698[02:28:13] <frank1e> cygnusx1: sda, sdb, sdb1, sdb2
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• 701[02:28:22] <cygnusx1> ok
• 702[02:28:32] <Wagaaa> I can't find qt-designer exec file
• 703[02:28:39] <dvs> didn't apply the changes
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• 706[02:28:51] <cygnusx1> yes dvs
• 707[02:29:07] <cygnusx1> frank1e you need to click apply changes in gparted
• 708[02:29:13] <cygnusx1> thx dvs
• 709[02:29:17] <dvs> no prob
• 710[02:29:24] <cygnusx1> teamwork :)
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• 712[02:29:39] <frank1e> cygnusx1, 1sec
• 713[02:29:42] * dvs takes all credit for everything!
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• 715[02:29:59] <frank1e> applying pending operations
• 716[02:30:02] <frank1e> and done
• 717[02:30:06] <cygnusx1> ok
• 718[02:30:08] <cygnusx1> now
• 719[02:30:13] <cygnusx1> mount -o rw /dev/sda1 /media/new
• 720[02:30:49] <frank1e> done
• 721[02:30:51] <markybob> Wagaaa: that's in qt4-designer
• 722[02:31:00] <cygnusx1> now you can transfer the files
• 723[02:31:17] <frank1e> yay! file window shows the new drive now! :)
• 724[02:31:24] <cygnusx1> you just open the file manager and do your thing
• 725[02:31:33] <Wagaaa> Oh, thanks.
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• 727[02:31:46] <frank1e> btw cygnusx1, is this safe? I mean the bad hdd is safe from more encryption damage, right?
• 728[02:31:55] <cygnusx1> for now
• 729[02:31:56] <frank1e> *right now
• 730[02:31:59] <frank1e> okay good
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• 733[02:32:17] <cygnusx1> not the case if you connect it and boot windows off any hdd
• 734[02:32:39] <frank1e> after copying i would need to format it to hell and back. no idea.
• 735[02:32:43] <cygnusx1> if it boots windows with that drive plugged in chances are it will continue encrypting it
• 736[02:32:55] <cygnusx1> frank1e i gotcha
• 737[02:33:00] <cygnusx1> when its done do this
• 738[02:33:07] <frank1e> oh and I also would need to copy data from another hdd later. but this one is important because it hosts the malicious stuff
• 739[02:33:26] <frank1e> i guess the other hdd will be easy
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• 741[02:33:35] <greenguy> cygnusx1: If I try to open a file with nano that does not exist, is it shown as empty or does it give me some output that it does not exist. Because when i try mv <dirnew> <dirold> is says it is non existent, but when I try the same dir for the new file, I get an empty nano page. But if I try opening the file after download just using nano newfile.cfg i can see it.
• 742[02:33:49] <greenguy> I'll hold.
• 743[02:34:02] <cygnusx1> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb (once you are done) this will zero the disk i.e. write all blocks as 0
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• 745[02:34:15] <cygnusx1> it shows as empty greenguy
• 746[02:34:20] <dvs> ouch bs=1M
• 747[02:34:34] <cygnusx1> lol yea
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• 749[02:34:39] <greenguy> damn it, my wget to dir did not work then. It did show a dl bar going to 100% tho :S
• 750[02:34:53] <cygnusx1> dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M of=/dev/sdb
• 751[02:34:53] <greenguy> I wonder where it ended up
• 752[02:34:58] <markybob> Wagaaa: btw the executable is designer-qt4, not qt-designer
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• 754[02:35:07] <cygnusx1> thx again dvs
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• 756[02:35:13] <frank1e> ok taking a note right now 1 sec. and copying now. brb 4-5 min cygnusx1
• 757[02:35:18] <cygnusx1> dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M of=/dev/sdb
• 758[02:35:27] <dvs> pas the probleme
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• 760[02:35:33] <greenguy> I used: wget <file.ext> -P /path/to/folder
• 761[02:35:49] <frank1e> cygnusx1 was that command meant for me? "dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M of=/dev/sd"
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• 764[02:36:01] <greenguy> yes
• 765[02:36:12] <frank1e> oh ok so i use that one
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• 767[02:36:26] <dvs> frank1e, not now!
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• 769[02:36:37] <frank1e> nono i know
• 770[02:36:41] <cygnusx1> yes but not now
• 771[02:36:43] <jmcnaught> frank1e: use any dd command with care, if you specify the wrong output device (of=) it will write over stuff without confirmation
• 772[02:36:43] <greenguy> oops lol
• 773[02:36:49] <frank1e> i'm going to let it copy dat floppy hah
• 774[02:36:59] <cygnusx1> greenguy you need to be in the directory when you run that
• 775[02:37:00] <greenguy> Sorry I'm in the way here :D
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• 777[02:37:05] <cygnusx1> you're fine
• 778[02:37:14] <Sh4d03> Hi all, I just installed pulseaudio on a new Debian install, hoping as the website says that it would more or less work out of the box. It doesn't. pacmd lists no devices other than the Dummy, and I'm not sure how to troubleshoot beyond that. Any clues?
• 779[02:37:15] <cygnusx1> you need to be in the directory the file is in
• 780[02:37:20] <greenguy> When i run mv? ok.
• 781[02:37:20] <frank1e> jmcnaught yes i will ask back here once i'm done just to be sure
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• 783[02:37:28] <cygnusx1> yes greenguy
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• 785[02:37:54] <cygnusx1> sh4d03 how did you install pulse audio?
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• 787[02:38:07] <Sh4d03> cygnusx1: apt-get install pulseaudio
• 788[02:38:22] <frank1e> so what are the odds that this ransomware has copied itself into various other locations like other HDDs, so it can continue messing with me?
• 789[02:38:38] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: what is the contents of your /proc/asound/cards file? also what do you get from "lspci -nn | grep -i audio" ?
• 790[02:38:43] <cygnusx1> try apt-get install pavucontrol
• 791[02:38:51] <greenguy> Ok, so I forgot the wget did not land the file in that dir. I used: wget <file.ext> -P /path/to/folder is this correct?
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• 793[02:39:13] <cygnusx1> frank1e the odds are 50/50 if other drives were plugged in when you got that file
• 794[02:39:19] <Sh4d03> cygnusx1: Installing now
• 795[02:39:25] <frank1e> hm
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• 797[02:39:39] <cygnusx1> all depends on the ransomware
• 798[02:39:45] <frank1e> thing is i don't even know the version of this cryptolockerthing.
• 799[02:40:03] <frank1e> i just happened to see do it's work and shut everything down
• 800[02:40:12] <leolas> :q
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• 802[02:40:22] <cygnusx1> well it probably not important at this point
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• 804[02:40:26] <greenguy> Damn it, why cant I just select all and cut paste. I will try wim
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• 806[02:40:29] <frank1e> ok
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• 809[02:41:12] <dvs> wim, appropriate name! ;-)
• 810[02:41:15] <cygnusx1> greenguy that looks correct. just navigate to that directory in terminal and then run mv
• 811[02:41:19] <dvs> just missing the "p"
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• 814[02:41:43] <greenguy> Problem is it downloads the file, but when i run mv it cant find it
• 815[02:42:24] <jmcnaught> greenguy: can you make a paste of the commands you use?
• 816[02:42:27] <cygnusx1> run it from the directory that file is in
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• 819[02:43:07] <cygnusx1> or it wont find it unless you do mv /path/to/file /path/to/newnamed/file
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• 822[02:43:21] <greenguy> wget replaced-url
• 823[02:43:32] <frank1e> cygnusx1 i am done within the next hour with the infected HDD. after it's wiped then, are you still here then maybe? I'd just need to 1:1 mirror another (hopefully clean) HDD.
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• 827[02:43:44] <cygnusx1> i should be here frank1e
• 828[02:43:47] <frank1e> ok
• 829[02:44:00] <cygnusx1> if not there are far more qualified nixers than me around ;)
• 830[02:44:01] <frank1e> i plan to 1:1 mirror that other HDD to a factory new one also.
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• 835[02:44:38] <greenguy> after that I cd the folder and run mv newfiledir oldfiledir
• 836[02:44:47] <greenguy> to the folder*
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• 839[02:45:04] <dvs> greenguy, wrong order
• 840[02:45:07] <cygnusx1> greenguy: mv /home/csserver/andsoon/serverxF035ks.cfg /home/csserver/andsoon/server.cfg
• 841[02:45:17] <cygnusx1> from anywhere
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• 844[02:45:30] <frank1e> cygnusx1 ok. I'll be afk now until it copies. Pls just tell me for my notes, which sda-thingy was the bad and the factory new hdd now? also: thanks so far! awesome help!
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• 846[02:45:47] <cygnusx1> sdb is the bad one
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• 848[02:45:53] <cygnusx1> sda is the good one
• 849[02:45:55] <greenguy> thats what I did, but it says it cannot be found xD So it must be that I downloaded it to some other place.. I don't know if -P is correct
• 850[02:46:19] <cygnusx1> the mounted filesystems are sda1 (new) and sdb2 (infected)
• 851[02:46:28] <greenguy> You saw the wget command i posted yeah? Seems to be downloading atleast, it said 100%
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• 853[02:46:34] <cygnusx1> greenguy i dont use wget
• 854[02:46:38] <cygnusx1> so i cannot say
• 855[02:46:38] <greenguy> ok!
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• 858[02:46:50] <cygnusx1> but i would just copy paste the whole text
• 859[02:46:55] <cygnusx1> if it was me
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• 861[02:47:21] <greenguy> Yeah my first thought but I cannot find select all in nano...
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• 863[02:47:30] <frank1e> cygnusx1, alrighty, got it! :) thanks again for now. rescued my life :P i would have messed up on my own. maybe i'll catch you later.
• 864[02:47:34] <greenguy> Googled it and found only how to select with cursor etc
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• 866[02:47:49] <cygnusx1> ok frank1e glad i could help
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• 868[02:47:53] <cygnusx1> i am always around
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• 873[02:48:40] <cygnusx1> greenguy, so you got this now?
• 874[02:48:55] <cygnusx1> or do you need some help?
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• 876[02:49:00] <greenguy> Nah but thats fine, I'll just do some googling ^^ what a pain in the ass just to copy paste
• 877[02:49:11] <cygnusx1> you need to use screen
• 878[02:49:21] <cygnusx1> to be able to copy/paste via shell only
• 879[02:49:33] <cygnusx1> with just a keyboard
• 880[02:49:51] <greenguy> ok
• 881[02:50:07] <greenguy> I'll try to move file internally first, wget seems to land the file somewhere atleast.
• 882[02:50:25] <cygnusx1> Screen supports some pretty nifty copy/paste tricks but a few basic key strokes will get you started. By default, enter copy mode with CTRL+a then ESCAPE . You can use vi like commands to navigate through the scollback buffer. The arrows and PAGE UP/DOWN should work as well
• 883[02:50:46] <cygnusx1> if you dont have screen: apt-get install screen
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• 885[02:50:48] <greenguy> Ok!
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• 888[02:51:03] <cygnusx1> then open a screen by using this: screen
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• 891[02:51:28] <cygnusx1> screen is a program that will save a shell session
• 892[02:51:39] <cygnusx1> amongst other uses
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• 894[02:51:56] <greenguy> ok, sounds usefull!
• 895[02:52:01] <cygnusx1> its less than 5mb so it wont take long to install it
• 896[02:52:37] <cygnusx1> replaced-url
• 897[02:53:25] <greenguy> hmm, cant find anything on "select all" in there.
• 898[02:53:55] <greenguy> unfortunatly there are 100s of lines I need to cut
• 899[02:54:02] <cygnusx1> hmmm
• 900[02:54:04] <cygnusx1> 1sec
• 901[02:54:04] <greenguy> I can only cut a single one with nano
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• 903[02:54:29] <greenguy> But I will need that tool anyways
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• 907[02:54:46] <jmcnaught> greenguy: if you are more comfortable with a text editor that uses familiar shortcuts, there is nothing wrong with editing the file on your PC and then copying it to the server
• 908[02:55:04] <cygnusx1> great idea
• 909[02:55:09] <greenguy> I think the best way is for me to locate where wget lands me the file, move it to the dir and use mv :)
• 910[02:55:10] <jmcnaught> greenguy: this is especially easy if you use a Linux desktop
• 911[02:55:27] <greenguy> Yeah, I need to try FTP and SSH and all that :/
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• 913[02:55:31] <cygnusx1> greenguy i agree. you just need to locate the file
• 914[02:55:32] <jmcnaught> greenguy: stop using the -P option with wget, just let it save to the current directory
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• 919[02:55:54] <cygnusx1> and try without -P like jmcnaught says
• 920[02:56:09] <cygnusx1> once it finishes do a ls
• 921[02:56:14] <cygnusx1> and find the file
• 922[02:56:28] <greenguy> oh, so I can cd to that dir and just use wget?
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• 924[02:56:34] <cygnusx1> yes
• 925[02:56:36] <Sh4d03> cygnusx1: Ok, pavucontrol is installed and only lists the dummy device
• 926[02:56:36] <greenguy> sweet
• 927[02:57:03] <cygnusx1> sh4d03 do you have ALSA?
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• 929[02:57:16] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: what is the contents of your /proc/asound/cards file? also what do you get from "lspci -nn | grep -i audio" ? Please use replaced-url
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• 932[02:57:51] <Sh4d03> jmcnaught: Just saw your message. /proc/asound/cards lists my Intel device (it's an onboard sound card), and lspci also lists it.
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• 937[02:58:08] <Sh4d03> cygnusx1: No, my understanding was I didn't need alsa as well.
• 938[02:58:10] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: please show us so we can help
• 939[02:58:21] <Sh4d03> jmcnaught: Sure thing, I'll paste bin them.
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• 942[02:59:14] <Sh4d03> replaced-url
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• 944[02:59:31] <Sh4d03> jmcnaught: ^^
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• 947[03:01:15] <greenguy> phew, done! :)
• 948[03:01:21] <greenguy> Thanks guys.
• 949[03:01:31] <cygnusx1> your welcome
• 950[03:01:43] <greenguy> time for the fun part, configuring this :)
• 951[03:01:59] <jmcnaught> judd: pciid 8086:27d8
• 952[03:02:00] <judd> [8086:27d8] is 'NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also replaced-url
• 953[03:02:10] <cygnusx1> i feel your pain bro. im a gamer too so i understand wanting to get your stuff runnning so you can just play the game
• 954[03:02:18] <jmcnaught> heh.. judd always says the same thing
• 955[03:02:42] <cygnusx1> lol
• 956[03:02:49] <Sh4d03> jmcnaught: Was that directed to me?
• 957[03:02:51] <cygnusx1> must be a bot
• 958[03:02:52] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: does "lsmod | grep snd" list anything? Also in the future don't use pastebin, it's crap
• 959[03:03:01] <cygnusx1> its a bot sh4d03
• 960[03:03:20] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: judd is a bot, i asked it to look up your pci id from the lspci output
• 961[03:03:42] <greenguy> cygnusx1: I'm in no rush, but I got so far tonight and just wanted it to be finished. I learned alot, small things that I need to know :) This project was meant to teach me something!
• 962[03:03:52] <greenguy> And it did!
• 963[03:03:53] <cygnusx1> awesome dude
• 964[03:03:54] <Sh4d03> jmcnaught: Sorry, which paste page would you like me to put the new output into?
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• 966[03:04:06] <greenguy> Tomorrow I will try ftp so I can transfer my maps!
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• 968[03:04:44] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: replaced-url
• 969[03:04:47] <cygnusx1> paste.debian.net
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• 971[03:04:51] <greenguy> And maybe ssh, hardly know what it is but maybe I will need to start/stop the server from a remote place :)
• 972[03:05:06] <greenguy> Sounds like it would come in handy.
• 973[03:05:06] <cygnusx1> ssh is ez pz
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• 975[03:05:13] <greenguy> Gut
• 976[03:05:13] <jmcnaught> greenguy: sounds like you're well on your way :)
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• 978[03:05:16] <JeremyE77> -limit memory 32MiB -limit map 64MiB
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• 980[03:05:26] <cygnusx1> i had to learn it to run my server
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• 982[03:05:31] <greenguy> jmcnaught: I'm having a blast
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• 985[03:06:07] <Sh4d03> jmcnaught: replaced-url
• 986[03:06:08] <greenguy> Small things annoy me, like the text being so damn small I have to lean over my computer and it hurts my back :(
• 987[03:06:09] <jmcnaught> greenguy: you now have 1 month to get Debian running on every CPU containing device in the house. The clock is ticking!
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• 989[03:06:45] <migmolrod> do you have the "dummy device" problem??
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• 992[03:07:01] <cygnusx1> lol jmcnaught
• 993[03:07:01] <migmolrod> in sound settings?
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• 995[03:07:04] <greenguy> jmcnaught: haha, yeah I installed bunsenlabs on my other old laptop today, Never tried tried the debian with gui :)
• 996[03:07:14] <greenguy> But I will test it!
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• 998[03:07:25] <cygnusx1> i couldnt get debian to run on my china tablet so i had to go with archlinux
• 999[03:07:31] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: thanks. It looks like the kernel recognizes your sound card and loads some modules. There is an "aplay" command in the package "alsa-utils" that we can try using
• 1000[03:07:50] <Sh4d03> jmcnaught: So I should install alsa-utils?
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• 1002[03:08:28] <frank1e> still copying. time to get a drink or something
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• 1006[03:08:59] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: yes please. and then as root do "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav"
• 1007[03:09:11] <jmcnaught> !alsa checklist
• 1008[03:09:11] <dpkg> 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>.
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• 1011[03:09:53] <Sh4d03> I haven't done a log out / in again. Should I try that first?
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• 1015[03:10:06] <Sh4d03> I was automatically added to the audio group
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• 1017[03:10:13] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: ^^^ the message from dpkg has additional things to check. the <factoids> are additional info, see the channel topic for examples of how to query the bot
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• 1019[03:10:23] <migmolrod> Sh4d03, your problem is "dummy output" in sound settings?
• 1020[03:10:33] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: if you run "groups" are you listed in the audio group?
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• 1022[03:11:02] <Sh4d03> jmcnaught: Yes, groups says I'm in the audio group
• 1023[03:11:15] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: you shouldn't need to log out then
• 1024[03:11:52] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: try to work through the <alsa checklist> from dpkg. I also recommend running "dmesg | grep -i firmware" to look for errors related to missing firmware
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• 1026[03:12:13] <Sh4d03> jmcnaught: as root, the aply command produced no sound, but also no errors in the console
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• 1029[03:13:01] <Sh4d03> s/aply/aplay
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• 1033[03:13:11] <cygnusx1> have you tried seeing if you accidently hit the mute key on your keyboard or if the volume is all the way down sh4d03?
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• 1035[03:14:14] <jmcnaught> Sh4d03: it is worth double checking that speakers are on and whatnot, but i suspect if pulseaudio only shows you a "dummy" device that there is a software problem, maybe a missing firmware
• 1036[03:14:35] <Sh4d03> dmesg | grep -i firmware didn't return any output.
• 1037[03:14:49] <cygnusx1> wow
• 1038[03:14:49] <Sh4d03> cygnusx1: What's the pulse utility for checking / changing the volume?
• 1039[03:14:56] <cygnusx1> pavu
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• 1041[03:15:13] <cygnusx1> pavucontrol
• 1042[03:15:34] <cygnusx1> it should appear in menu > system in your taskbar
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• 1045[03:16:10] <cygnusx1> it shows as pulse audio volume control iirc
• 1046[03:16:45] <Sh4d03> cygnusx1: I'm running openbox
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• 1048[03:17:03] <cygnusx1> ok try invoking it from a terminal
• 1049[03:17:07] <cygnusx1> pavucontrol
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• 1053[03:17:45] <Sh4d03> Yup, back to just Dummy Output in the settings panel. I'll have to picki up this problem again later. Thanks for the help guys.
• 1054[03:18:11] <migmolrod> Sh4d03: what is your ubuntu version?
• 1055[03:18:22] <cygnusx1> yea no problem. we'll be around
• 1056[03:18:39] <migmolrod> and second question, when did it start to fail?
• 1057[03:18:53] <jmcnaught> migmolrod: this is #debian not #ubuntu
• 1058[03:19:00] <migmolrod> ah sorry
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• 1062[03:20:17] <migmolrod> in ubuntu 15.10 i had same error, "dummy output". and it was because i tried to install realtek drivers and they messed up the kernel. can't remember where i get the solution. probably askubuntu....
• 1063[03:20:19] <migmolrod> but now in debian, i don't know. should be the same, as ubuntu is debian-based but....
• 1064[03:20:32] <cygnusx1> should be
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• 1066[03:20:50] <migmolrod> yep, under very big quotes """"should"""" be
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• 1068[03:21:18] <migmolrod> the solution for me was somehow reinstalling kernel. can't remember how exactly
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• 1073[03:22:00] <somiaj> actually it could be different. Yous houdln't need to install drivers in debian for most realtek hardware, but you may need to get the firmware (or a newer kernel)
• 1074[03:22:15] <cygnusx1> that may be the fix for his issue. new kernel. maybe his kernel is outdated and he has a newer pc that requires a newer kernel
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• 1078[03:23:23] <migmolrod> in ubuntu the sound is working well enough but wanted to try the realtek drivers because with 5.1 Analog as output mode, whenever i move the main volume slider, the subwoofer slider moves as well
• 1079[03:23:26] <migmolrod> and vice-versa
• 1080[03:23:40] <migmolrod> now i won't even look at realtek website
• 1081[03:23:44] <Vainglory> ubuntu != debian
• 1082[03:23:48] <migmolrod> i'll have to live with it
• 1083[03:24:08] <migmolrod> Vainglory: i know, just giving my two cents
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• 1085[03:24:18] <migmolrod> in case it could be of any help
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• 1112[03:41:31] <frank1e> update: 70gb left. beer 50% done
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• 1115[03:41:54] <cygnusx1> lol
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• 1119[03:43:23] <frank1e> i have this feeling i am forgetting something again lol. but nvm.
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• 1121[03:43:53] <frank1e> when this is done i'll check if there's enough space left for putting a mirror of the other hdd on it
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• 1130[03:47:11] <frank1e> uhh, uh oh
• 1131[03:47:20] <cygnusx1> ?
• 1132[03:47:21] <frank1e> i wanted to copy some folder and it says
• 1133[03:47:27] <frank1e> Error splicing file
• 1134[03:47:33] <frank1e> Input/Output Error
• 1135[03:47:46] <cygnusx1> maybe it got hit by that ransomware
• 1136[03:47:53] <frank1e> i don't think so
• 1137[03:47:57] <frank1e> could be just too big
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• 1139[03:48:08] <frank1e> it's bitcoin stuff, wanted to backup my blockchain
• 1140[03:48:17] <cygnusx1> how big is it?
• 1141[03:48:28] <cygnusx1> you can split it up easily
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• 1143[03:48:56] <frank1e> i'll skip it it's not important.
• 1144[03:49:02] <cygnusx1> ok
• 1145[03:49:33] <frank1e> mh can't delete existing folders it created so far
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• 1147[03:49:37] <frank1e> anyway.
• 1148[03:50:14] <frank1e> ok i got lucky
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• 1151[03:50:32] <frank1e> the 2nd hdd i need to mirror still fits on the current backup hdd
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• 1156[03:51:02] <frank1e> time to wipe the bad hdd now with "dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M of=/dev/sd".
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• 1159[03:51:48] <frank1e> correct?
• 1160[03:51:49] <Vainglory> wipe a bad hdd? good luck.
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• 1162[03:52:09] <frank1e> Vainglory it's infected with ransomware, but runs fine
• 1163[03:52:23] <Vainglory> errr, a debian machine with ransomware?
• 1164[03:52:52] <frank1e> no i use debian for doing backups. os is win
• 1165[03:52:58] <Vainglory> ew
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• 1167[03:53:03] * frank1e pokes cygnusx1
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• 1175[03:55:08] <cygnusx1> yea
• 1176[03:55:11] <cygnusx1> do it!
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• 1179[03:55:33] <cygnusx1> zero that mug
• 1180[03:55:41] <frank1e> ok
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• 1188[03:56:44] <cygnusx1> sudo su then dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M of=/dev/sdb
• 1189[03:56:51] <frank1e> dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M of=/dev/sd
• 1190[03:56:59] <cygnusx1> sdb
• 1191[03:56:59] <frank1e> was about to say there's something missing at the end
• 1192[03:57:03] <frank1e> yup
• 1193[03:57:05] <markybob> why are we sudo su?
• 1194[03:57:11] <markybob> one or the other
• 1195[03:57:25] <cygnusx1> lol because its a liveboot
• 1196[03:57:29] <cygnusx1> su asks for a pw
• 1197[03:57:29] <mkb> to get a root shell when you don't have the root password?
• 1198[03:57:30] <markybob> ah
• 1199[03:57:43] <frank1e> we already did sudo su before
• 1200[03:57:47] <frank1e> so nothing changed
• 1201[03:57:47] <cygnusx1> i would ask the same ;)
• 1202[03:57:58] <cygnusx1> yea i didnt know if you still had it open
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• 1204[03:58:16] <cygnusx1> proceed my friend
• 1205[03:58:55] <frank1e> seems to do things now
• 1206[03:59:09] <cygnusx1> ideally you should dban it also
• 1207[03:59:19] <cygnusx1> Deriks Boot And Nuke
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• 1209[03:59:32] <frank1e> what
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• 1212[03:59:44] <frank1e> btw there's no progress thing or anything showing up
• 1213[03:59:52] <cygnusx1> i know
• 1214[03:59:52] <frank1e> just the text cursor
• 1215[03:59:55] <frank1e> ok
• 1216[03:59:58] <cygnusx1> it will take 5 ever
• 1217[04:00:02] <frank1e> alright
• 1218[04:00:15] <cygnusx1> just let it run till it gives output
• 1219[04:00:22] <frank1e> yup
• 1220[04:00:25] <cygnusx1> how big is the drive?
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• 1222[04:00:30] <frank1e> 1.5TB
• 1223[04:00:33] <jmcnaught> frank1e: to be on the safe side you can remove the backup drive before doing dd
• 1224[04:00:41] <cygnusx1> expect at least an hour
• 1225[04:00:54] <cygnusx1> and yes remove the good drive first
• 1226[04:01:02] <cygnusx1> excellent suggestion
• 1227[04:01:03] <frank1e> jmcnaught too late. but i need that drive later anyway. it only wipes 1 drive, so i got backups on both sides anyway now
• 1228[04:01:12] <frank1e> it's too late lol :D
• 1229[04:01:16] <cygnusx1> lol
• 1230[04:01:18] <cygnusx1> ok
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• 1233[04:01:48] <cygnusx1> whats your cpu?
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• 1235[04:02:11] <frank1e> intel i7 13.37something jiggawhat
• 1236[04:02:18] <cygnusx1> aw snap
• 1237[04:02:22] <frank1e> i forgot no idea
• 1238[04:02:25] <cygnusx1> this will take like 20 mins
• 1239[04:02:27] <frank1e> 3.4GHz
• 1240[04:02:44] <Vainglory> cat /proc/cpuinfo
• 1241[04:02:49] <Vainglory> git on my lvl skrub
• 1242[04:03:01] <mkb> the cpu's not the bottleneck here
• 1243[04:03:07] <markybob> this is more of an i/o thing though. SSD vs HDD type
• 1244[04:03:16] <cygnusx1> oh
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• 1246[04:03:35] <cygnusx1> well in my experience faster cpu = faster dd
• 1247[04:03:46] <Vainglory> that's not how it works
• 1248[04:03:57] <hiyo> How do I start an install from a live debian standard (command line) iso
• 1249[04:04:00] <mkb> I think GNU dd can output status. you may want it and you may want to adjust the block size before letting this thing run overnight
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• 1251[04:04:33] <cygnusx1> its not gonna take all night
• 1252[04:04:56] <frank1e> i got more beer no worries
• 1253[04:05:17] <cygnusx1> thats the way to think
• 1254[04:06:15] <markybob> i'm on my second and last :(
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• 1256[04:06:19] <frank1e> i want the boost button back on pcs these days
• 1257[04:06:29] <frank1e> really missing my old crap setup lol
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• 1260[04:06:48] <cygnusx1> dude i say that all the time
• 1261[04:06:53] <cygnusx1> i miss turbo
• 1262[04:07:26] <cygnusx1> my pentium 386 with 256mb ram ran 2x as fast in turbo mode
• 1263[04:08:00] <frank1e> i was copying floppies all damn day
• 1264[04:08:05] <cygnusx1> oh yea
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• 1266[04:08:09] <frank1e> like do a copy of this and that. backup game was strong
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• 1268[04:08:17] <greenguy> sigh, config wont load :(
• 1269[04:08:21] <cygnusx1> those were the days
• 1270[04:08:31] <frank1e> yup
• 1271[04:08:34] <cygnusx1> greenguy whats the error?
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• 1274[04:09:58] <greenguy> cygnusx1 I have no idea, it seemed obvious when I found exec server.cfg in cs-server.cfg. I removed that and put the config I downloaded in both of them. But it just wont load, nothing happens, still default. :P
• 1275[04:10:24] <greenguy> My last guess is that it must be the "update server on start = off"
• 1276[04:10:50] <cygnusx1> ummm....is exec server.cfg a line in the file?
• 1277[04:11:02] <greenguy> yes, in the cs-server.cfg
• 1278[04:11:10] <greenguy> so it loads what is in cs-server into that
• 1279[04:11:13] <cygnusx1> did you edit that file?
• 1280[04:11:20] <cygnusx1> cs-server.cfg
• 1281[04:11:33] <greenguy> yes, I tried that first. And also tried keeping both with same settings.
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• 1283[04:11:48] <cygnusx1> ok that file needs to be regular
• 1284[04:11:55] <greenguy> ok
• 1285[04:11:57] <greenguy> Ill try that
• 1286[04:12:06] <cygnusx1> exec is the line where it executes server.cfg
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• 1288[04:12:37] <greenguy> yeah but that should not be necessary, not in windows anyways. I'll try it now! :)
• 1289[04:12:57] <cygnusx1> once u get cs-server.cfg back to standard, try again
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• 1293[04:13:46] <cygnusx1> and also you may need to write your own server.cfg...the one you downloaded may have settings for an entirely different server than the one you are using
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• 1296[04:14:48] <greenguy> I will use the server for PCW, and I think that was a PCW config actually! :) But I will do some more configuring in the future, adding maps and skins and some mods!
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• 1298[04:15:31] <cygnusx1> sweet
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• 1305[04:17:45] <greenguy> It did not work :/
• 1306[04:18:08] <greenguy> maybe if I restart the whole thing. Don't know if it loads the config when i sign in as that user....
• 1307[04:19:31] <greenguy> Maybe it need to be read/write protected
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• 1320[04:27:31] <cygnusx1> hmm
• 1321[04:27:48] <cygnusx1> i doubt write protection is the issue
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• 1334[04:34:15] <greenguy> cygnusx1: Yeah.. I'm studying this atm replaced-url
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• 1336[04:35:27] <cygnusx1> yes. looks like you are closer to what you need greenguy
• 1337[04:35:52] <greenguy> maybe if i put +exec server.cfg in the launch options it will work. Let me try that
• 1338[04:35:53] <frank1e> damn debian screensavers are wicked
• 1339[04:35:54] <frank1e> i like
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• 1350[04:41:40] <cygnusx1> yea frank1e debian screensavers are pretty sweet
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• 1381[04:54:41] <cnnx> i have 3 ips in my debian vps.. 1 eth0 and 1 eth0:1 and 1 eth0:1, when i type route it hangs, but route -n shows the correct routes defined in /etc/network/interfaces, what can i check?
• 1382[04:54:45] <cnnx> i cant ping the ips from outside
• 1383[04:54:49] <cnnx> only the main eth0 one
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• 1407[05:10:27] <markybob> cnnx: pastebin your interfaces
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• 1413[05:13:56] * frank1e still wiping
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• 1434[05:21:15] <kmq> I'm running debian-live-8.3.0-amd64-standard.iso in a qemu vm, and I'm stuck at a tty login prompt.
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• 1436[05:21:42] <kmq> from what I've googled I am not supposed to need to log in, therefore there *isn't* a valid user/password
• 1437[05:21:47] <kmq> is this information correct?
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• 1439[05:23:26] <markybob> kmq: you can sudo passwd root
• 1440[05:23:40] <markybob> then su
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• 1442[05:23:43] <kmq> no, I can't even get a shell
• 1443[05:23:55] <kmq> I'm can't log in
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• 1449[05:27:01] <markybob> kmq: it's normally user user and password live
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• 1452[05:29:28] <kmq> markybob: I tried so many combinations ... thanks a bunch, that was the correct one.
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• 1454[05:30:41] <markybob> kmq: great :)
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• 1456[05:30:55] <frank1e> cygnusx1, i'm gonna take a quick 1 hour nap, this might take a little with the dd
• 1457[05:31:05] <cygnusx1> ok
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• 1517[06:11:05] <cisc0> hello
• 1518[06:11:15] <cygnusx1> hi
• 1519[06:12:11] <frank1e> hola
• 1520[06:12:49] <cisc0> i took 3 hours to set up my debian, it's done now, time for some fun :D
• 1521[06:13:25] <cygnusx1> awesome!
• 1522[06:14:12] <cisc0> best distro so far
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• 1525[06:14:33] <frank1e> i didn't sleep but stare at the screensavers lol
• 1526[06:14:38] <frank1e> i want those on my mac
• 1527[06:14:39] * frank1e ducks
• 1528[06:14:53] <cisc0> frank1e: do you see the matrix ?
• 1529[06:14:57] <frank1e> huh
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• 1531[06:15:00] <greenguy> gaaaah
• 1532[06:15:35] <greenguy> 6 am I give up, 8 hours of this lol
• 1533[06:15:44] <greenguy> thanks for all the help cygnusx1!
• 1534[06:16:01] <greenguy> might be back tomorrow.
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• 1538[06:16:47] <cygnusx1> ok
• 1539[06:16:53] <cygnusx1> keep at it man
• 1540[06:16:56] <cygnusx1> you'll get this
• 1541[06:17:19] <greenguy> :) I will, gn!
• 1542[06:17:42] <frank1e> goodnight!
• 1543[06:17:51] <frank1e> 6am here too, but refusing to pass out lol
• 1544[06:18:41] <cisc0> jeez i spent my whole night playing with configs
• 1545[06:20:18] <cygnusx1> lol
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• 1548[06:21:55] <cisc0> now it's too late and too early to sleep
• 1549[06:24:09] <kmq> you guys want some coffee ? I've also been up installing all night
• 1550[06:24:27] * kmq passes some cups to the channel
• 1551[06:24:34] <cygnusx1> thx kmq
• 1552[06:25:01] <kmq> sure :-0
• 1553[06:25:10] <kmq> s/0/)/
• 1554[06:25:43] <Miga> but I've already had my coffee for today
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• 1562[06:31:25] <hiya> is i386 netinstall ISO good or amd64 for 1-core VPS with 1G Ram?
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• 1564[06:32:07] <rudi_s> hiya: Most likely you'll want to use amd64.
• 1565[06:32:26] <cheapie> Is there a way to tell APT to use one mirror for i386 and a different one for amd64? I have a local mirror of amd64 but not i386 and I'd like to install some packages from i386 on this amd64 system without hitting the remote mirror for amd64 stuff too.
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• 1567[06:33:06] <cheapie> Or at least a way to make it prefer one mirror over another?
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• 1570[06:33:39] <hiya> rudi_s, ok thanks
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• 1572[06:34:43] <markybob> cheapie: why aren't you just using multiarch as it's supposed to be used?
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• 1574[06:35:24] <cheapie> markybob: I have a 6 Mb/s link to the internet, but 1000 Mb/s to a mirror containing /only/ amd64. It's not exactly a small difference.
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• 1577[06:36:05] <markybob> cheapie: i connect over cell phone tether. you're not gonna make me feel bad for you but that doesn't answer the question
• 1578[06:36:15] <hiya> rudi_s, Cannot I upgrade Debian netinstall 7.4 to 8 directly from ISO installation ?
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• 1580[06:36:30] <hiya> or I have first install and then upgrade?
• 1581[06:36:35] <cheapie> markybob: OK, so what's the difference between what I'm trying to do and how it's "supposed to be used"?
• 1582[06:36:35] <markybob> hiya: no.
• 1583[06:36:41] <markybob> hiya: install then upgrade
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• 1585[06:37:06] <hiya> markybob, ok, enjoying it over secure VNC now
• 1586[06:37:08] <hiya> love it
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• 1589[06:37:11] <hiya> netinstall = rocks
• 1590[06:37:12] <markybob> cheapie: replaced-url
• 1591[06:37:30] <markybob> packages*
• 1592[06:37:54] <cheapie> markybob: Ah, OK. Looks like I missed the "deb [arch=whatever]" part the first time.
• 1593[06:37:56] * cheapie tries that
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• 1607[06:46:51] <lesta> My jessie language is en. Anytime I run apt-get update apt download replaced-url
• 1608[06:46:54] <lesta> Is this by default?
• 1609[06:47:34] <cygnusx1> yes
• 1610[06:47:38] <markybob> lesta: yes
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• 1612[06:47:44] <lesta> ok, thanks
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• 1627[07:02:39] <MaBunny> hey guys
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• 1629[07:03:06] <MaBunny> so ive downloaded the c++-annotations from the doc repo of
• 1630[07:03:15] <MaBunny> the debian repos
• 1631[07:03:38] <MaBunny> i want to ask is how do i access it via command-line?
• 1632[07:03:50] <MaBunny> i dont kno how to access it
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• 1634[07:04:46] <markybob> MaBunny: /usr/share/doc/c++-annotations/
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• 1636[07:06:28] <cygnusx1> replaced-url
• 1637[07:07:06] <MaBunny> markybob: but how do i run the doc in the CLI?
• 1638[07:07:31] <markybob> MaBunny: they're text files. you cat it
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• 1646[07:15:23] <MaBunny> ok,ive gzipped cplusplus.latex.gz file
• 1647[07:15:52] <MaBunny> but when i cat it,it shows a humongous stream of text lines
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• 1649[07:16:03] <MaBunny> i want to read it line by line
• 1650[07:16:15] <MaBunny> man cplusplus.latex?
• 1651[07:16:24] <frank1e> cygnusx1, this will take days
• 1652[07:16:27] <frank1e> for sure
• 1653[07:16:37] <MaBunny> nope
• 1654[07:16:37] <cygnusx1> how do you know that?
• 1655[07:16:47] <frank1e> hah no idea
• 1656[07:16:51] <frank1e> got this feeling
• 1657[07:16:52] <cygnusx1> it wont
• 1658[07:17:11] <markybob> MaBunny: for gz you need to use zcat
• 1659[07:17:14] <cygnusx1> it may take all night like someone said, but either way you know the disk will be clean
• 1660[07:17:24] <frank1e> ok
• 1661[07:17:32] <frank1e> heading back to nap hq
• 1662[07:18:00] <markybob> MaBunny: plus i don't see latex in that package. replaced-url
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• 1669[07:24:25] <Shawn> debian's python3-flake8 package doesnt give me flake8 in $PATH. this is the list of files it provides replaced-url
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• 1673[07:25:54] <markybob> Shawn: it's not supposed to go into bash's $PATH...so nothing
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• 1675[07:27:12] <Shawn> I am getting this from atom: Failed to spawn command `flake8`. Make sure `flake8` is installed and on your PATH
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• 1677[07:27:31] <Shawn> also when I install it from pip, i get a command "flake8" that i can run from any directory
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• 1682[07:30:03] <markybob> Shawn: that's in python-flake8. not python3-flake8
• 1683[07:30:25] <Shawn> does that work for python3?
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• 1685[07:30:59] <Shawn> or i need to have both
• 1686[07:31:30] <markybob> Shawn: i think it's 2 only.
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• 1689[07:34:01] <hiya> markybob, cdn.debian.net good repo?
• 1690[07:35:27] <markybob> hiya: i'd follow the docs replaced-url
• 1691[07:35:56] <markybob> hiya: i don't know what cdn.debian.net is to be honest
• 1692[07:36:48] <markybob> hiya: i guess it's the same thing as the doc says just an alias?
• 1693[07:36:58] <markybob> hiya: that's what google says.
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• 1695[07:37:27] <markybob> hiya: replaced-url
• 1696[07:37:32] <jim> does debian or #debian support docker? (I had to add to sources.list to get it)
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• 1699[07:39:25] <markybob> jim: a lot of us really hate it...so you'll probably have better luck asking them
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• 1702[07:42:11] <jim> you mean the docker folks?
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• 1704[07:42:22] <markybob> yes
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• 1706[07:42:30] <jim> ok good enough
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• 1708[07:42:55] <jim> out of curiousity and interest, why the hatred?
• 1709[07:43:35] <markybob> jim: in my case it claims security and it isn't secure at all.
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• 1712[07:44:28] <Shawn> markybob: ah yes, i installed python-flake8 and tried print("foo", end=" ") from inside atom, and it complained about syntax error. it's not a syntax error in python3
• 1713[07:44:35] <jim> I'm not saying I hate it particularly... but after installing it, it tried to start it, but failed with exec format error
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• 1715[07:44:50] <jim> ok, anyway thanks
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• 1717[07:46:37] <Guest90095> if anything where to happen to Bernie Sanders by someone else in the united states, you realize he'd just walk out of a box ? for the record anyway
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• 1719[07:46:46] <Guest90095> oops. sorry. "#offtopic"
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• 1721[07:47:02] <Shawn> ba dum tsh
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• 1743[08:08:51] <jmcnaught> jim: hey, there is docker.io package in jessie-backports that you could ask about here, but i don't know how many people would be familiar with it to be honest.
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• 1754[08:16:45] <jim> jmcnaught, thanks... I'll get rid of the other docker thign and try that
• 1755[08:19:10] <jmcnaught> jim: i tried it before, both the package from backports and the package from upstream (which is newer), and both worked for me. personally i didn't like the app container model very much, running applications as PID 1 and all the complexity that brings doesn't seem worth it. some of the bash scripts i've seen included in Dockerfiles seem like they're moving in the wrong direction when there's things like systemd unit files now
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• 1757[08:19:37] <jim> jmcnaught, what arch do you run?
• 1758[08:19:43] <jmcnaught> amd64
• 1759[08:20:02] <jim> that's probably why I'm getting exec format error
• 1760[08:20:29] <jmcnaught> if you're interested in containers, there's also LXC which works reasonably well in Debian. I couldn't get unprivileged containers working in Jessie though
• 1761[08:21:00] <jmcnaught> LXC is system containers (a whole OS in the container, not just a single application), so it's much more familiar ground
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• 1763[08:21:20] <jmcnaught> systemd-nspawn is also pretty interesting
• 1764[08:21:35] <jim> is docker for a case, like if I want to install a different os, and run them simultaneously (like with xen)?
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• 1766[08:22:32] <jim> or if I want to install say debian testing
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• 1771[08:22:50] <jim> I run stable with a couple backports of things
• 1772[08:23:07] <jmcnaught> docker's more like "i have a container for apache, and another for mysql, and another for redis, and another for my web app". and each container only runs one application
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• 1775[08:23:50] <jim> ohh ok, so one installation, many apps each in a container
• 1776[08:23:51] <jmcnaught> LXC is more suited to "i want to test a different distro, and try running it in an isolated box"
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• 1778[08:24:22] <jmcnaught> however LXC isn't the best option for GUIs. it can be done, but loses a lot of the isolation
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• 1781[08:25:05] <jmcnaught> if you want to test drive a different distro including GUIs, KVM, Xen or VirtualBox (blech..) are better options
• 1782[08:25:31] <jim> so xen is still around?
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• 1784[08:25:35] <jmcnaught> jim: do you have a 64-bit CPU with virtualization support?
• 1785[08:25:59] <jim> I think so, core i5-4590 quad
• 1786[08:26:08] <jmcnaught> yup, xen is in jessie
• 1787[08:27:00] <jim> so if I've upgraded jessie recently and discovered hypervisors, they're probably jessie?
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• 1791[08:27:29] <jim> I know I've seen xen 3.2 and 4.1
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• 1793[08:27:58] <jmcnaught> jim: does "grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo" return anything?
• 1794[08:28:27] <jmcnaught> jim: i don't understand your question re: jessie
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• 1796[08:28:56] <jim> the grep returned a fair bit of output
• 1797[08:29:27] <jmcnaught> jim: "vmx" is the flag for virutalization support in intel CPUs, so you have the support
• 1798[08:29:30] <jim> probably if there's 4 cores, it returned 4 times as much
• 1799[08:29:36] <jmcnaught> yup
• 1800[08:30:24] <jim> I'm not sure why I have so many hypervisors
• 1801[08:30:33] <jim> like 3 or 4
• 1802[08:30:59] <jmcnaught> Xen and KVM both virtualize the whole computer. LXC and Docker are kernel level virtualization, they use Linux features like namespaces and cgroups to isolate containers from each other and the host
• 1803[08:31:37] <jmcnaught> jim: what do you mean you have so many hypervisors? do you mean you have them all installedd? only one can be working at a time, so if you have more than one installed the rest are broken
• 1804[08:32:40] <jim> when I boot, I go to advanced, then I think xen, then I see like 4 choices
• 1805[08:33:12] <jmcnaught> maybe at some point you installed the xen kernel. to be honest i don't know xen that well. i use KVM a lot though, with libvirt
• 1806[08:34:02] <jmcnaught> Xen requires a special hypervisor kernel to be installed, which is why it would be one of your boot options. You probably have a xen kernel meta package that keeps pulling in newer kernels.
• 1807[08:34:17] <jim> do you happen to know anything about the differences between kvm and xen? (and maybe lxc and xen too)
• 1808[08:34:22] <jmcnaught> KVM on the other hand is in the Linux kernel (and available a module in Debian)
• 1809[08:34:50] <jmcnaught> jim: i know a bit :) want to move it to #debian-offtopic?
• 1810[08:35:14] <jim> sure
• 1811[08:35:20] <jim> be there in a sec
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• 1830[08:51:24] <jim> other than rebooting to make sure, how can I tell if I'm running a xen kernel?
• 1831[08:51:51] <jmcnaught> "uname -a" should tell you if it's Xen i believe
• 1832[08:53:21] <jim> here's mine... "Linux orie 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4 (2016-02-29) i686 GNU/Linux"
• 1833[08:54:01] <jmcnaught> jim: you're running a 32-bit kernel, amd64 is what you want
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• 1835[08:54:39] <jim> and my current arch "i686"
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• 1838[08:55:17] <jim> so I can run an amd64 kernel with that arch?
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• 1841[08:55:41] <jmcnaught> you probably don't want/need to reinstall. you should be able to install an amd64 kernel, and enable multiarch support for amd64: replaced-url
• 1842[08:55:51] <jim> also, for kvm, do I need to run a special kernel like I woudl for xen?
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• 1844[08:56:32] <jmcnaught> not a special kernel, the kvm.ko kernel module is included with stock debian kernel packages
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• 1846[08:56:56] <jmcnaught> it should work on 32-bit too, but ideally your system would be 64-bit
• 1847[08:57:01] <jim> so, to support kvm, that's all the kernel needs?
• 1848[08:57:28] <jim> ok
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• 1850[08:57:50] <hobi> Hello
• 1851[08:57:54] <jim> hi
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• 1853[08:58:25] <hobi> Which document should I read first when starting to contribute to Debian
• 1854[08:58:28] <jmcnaught> jim: replaced-url
• 1855[08:58:31] <hobi> I am a bit confused
• 1856[08:58:36] <hobi> Thanks
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• 1858[08:59:43] <jmcnaught> hi hobi. the release notes for jessie mention a "how-can-i-help" tool: replaced-url
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• 1862[09:00:09] <jmcnaught> hobi: me, i mostly just help with support here on IRC
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• 1871[09:04:12] <hiya> how to enable Ipv6 in jessie?
• 1872[09:04:20] <hiya> I upgraded a fresh machine from wheezy to jessie
• 1873[09:04:28] <hiya> if I do direct Jessie IPv6 shows
• 1874[09:04:33] <hiya> but not in this procedure
• 1875[09:04:34] <hiya> :(
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• 1882[09:07:15] <ayansh> hi #debian
• 1883[09:07:32] <jim> hiya, that;s a lot of enter key
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• 1888[09:08:08] <jim> ayansh hi
• 1889[09:08:09] <ayansh> currently i am running 4.3.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 kernel. is it possible to downgrade to stable?
• 1890[09:08:14] <hiya> jim, yes :D
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• 1893[09:08:37] <jim> ayansh, stable which?
• 1894[09:08:45] <ayansh> stable latest.
• 1895[09:09:00] <jim> you mean just the kernel?
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• 1897[09:09:08] <ayansh> i am currently on debian version 8.3
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• 1899[09:09:48] <ayansh> jim: yes, i have to install VMware workstation, compilation on vmnet module is failing.
• 1900[09:10:18] <jim> you mean just the kernel? if so, you can install the kernel recommended for stable, boot into it, then remove the 4.3 one
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• 1904[09:11:20] <jmcnaught> ayansh: you probably just need the headers package that goes with your kernel
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• 1906[09:12:54] <jmcnaught> ayansh: "apt-get install -t jessie-backports linux-headers-amd" should do the trick
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• 1911[09:14:05] <hiya> can we do FDE on debian in an active installation?
• 1912[09:14:48] <jim> jmcnaught, purging of old kernels is going to take awhile
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• 1914[09:15:26] <jim> right now only getting rid of the 2.x kernels
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• 1918[09:16:15] <ayansh> jmcnaught: already done apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
• 1919[09:17:01] <jmcnaught> ayansh: you probably want the meta package (if you used the linux-image-amd64 to install your kernel)
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• 1921[09:18:11] <jmcnaught> ayansh: eventually the linux-image-amd64 in backports is going to point to something newer than $(uname -r), and if you don't also have the matching headers package, your DKMS and VMware stuff is going to break again
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• 1925[09:19:25] <ayansh> would prefer to roll back to latest stable release then.
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• 1931[09:21:51] <Shawn> the way the python packages are done in debian is kinda wacky
• 1932[09:22:31] <jim> ayansh, I think that would be 3.16.something
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• 1940[09:26:00] <jim> there's like 8 or 9 2.x kernels I had, removing them, it's regening all the initrds and the config file every time, and there's more to go after that
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• 1942[09:26:44] <cdb23ax> hello whats the default debian jessie desktop environment?
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• 1944[09:27:00] <cdb23ax> iam asking because i installed debian without it and now i need it for kvm
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• 1946[09:27:17] <ayansh> jim: dpkg -l is listing the 3.* kernel. howevre grub splash window gives only bpo kernel
• 1947[09:27:48] <TxGVNN> @cdb23ax I think Gnome 3
• 1948[09:27:51] <jmcnaught> cdb23ax: GNOME gets installed if you select that you want a desktop but don't choose a specific one. But you can choose during the installer from GNOME, KDE, Xfce, LXDE, Mate and Cinnamon
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• 1950[09:28:16] <jelly> and naturally you can choose later as well
• 1951[09:28:46] <cdb23ax> what happens to my network configuration when i install gnome?
• 1952[09:29:03] <cdb23ax> is there a thing called network manager like in ubuntu? because i dont want that kind of thing
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• 1954[09:29:31] <jmcnaught> cdb23ax: it will use network-manager, which is easy to disable for a specific network interface in Debian
• 1955[09:29:33] <jelly> cdb23ax: it stays there, network-manager is supposed to ignore interfaces configured in /etc/network/interfaces
• 1956[09:29:54] <cdb23ax> does it also ignore my pppoe configuration?
• 1957[09:29:56] <jim> there is networkmanager, and you don't have to use it if you don't want (see ^^)
• 1958[09:29:59] <ayansh> in /boot/grub/grub.cfg i have multiple listings however at boot time i get only one option. tried grub-install /dev/sda #wanted to bootin to older kernel.
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• 1962[09:31:34] <cdb23ax> so is it enough to install gnome core?
• 1963[09:32:33] <cdb23ax> i really dont like the gui but it seems that kvm needs it
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• 1965[09:32:49] <jmcnaught> why does KVM need gnome?
• 1966[09:33:05] <cdb23ax> all the howtos that i see uses gui
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• 1968[09:34:02] <jmcnaught> the most common GUI for KVM is virt-manager, which will run in any desktop environment
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• 1970[09:35:53] <cdb23ax> i tried kvm according to the following howto replaced-url
• 1971[09:36:37] <jmcnaught> cdb23ax: the word "gnome" isn't even on that page
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• 1973[09:37:31] <cdb23ax> for example this echo 1002 6739 | tee /sys/bus/pci/drivers/vfio-pci/new_id wont work
• 1974[09:37:54] <cdb23ax> i can only blacklist if i use gui
• 1975[09:38:22] <jmcnaught> cdb23ax: i would love to try that one day, but my motherboard doesn't have IOMMU support. still, i don't think this relates specifically to gnome.
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• 1980[09:43:16] <cdb23ax> jmcnaught: well i tried this with xen hvm
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• 1982[09:43:40] <cdb23ax> and it works iam actually writing from an xen hvm
• 1983[09:43:54] <cdb23ax> but the performance is not the yellow from the egg
• 1984[09:43:58] <jim> finished removing the 2.x, now to purge the 3.2s and the 4.3, then install a 3.16 amd64
• 1985[09:43:59] <cygnusx1> lol
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• 1988[09:44:43] <jim> then I'll finally be ready to talk to you again (an hour and a half later... sorry...)
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• 1998[09:49:39] <USBhelp> I just formatted my pendrive and cancelled the operation in the middle and my OS isn't reading the pendrive.
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• 2002[09:53:22] <jim> which operation did you cancel?
• 2003[09:53:36] <jim> the format?
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• 2008[09:55:38] <armin> hi. i want to report success on installing debian on a QNAP TS-112P 1 bay NAS system! (armv5tel) \m/
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• 2012[09:56:11] <jim> armin, cool :)
• 2013[09:56:26] <armin> works very nicely!
• 2014[09:56:51] <jim> how much disk space does it have, and what kind of backup hardware?
• 2015[09:57:07] <armin> almost the most painless install i ever experienced on a headless device (i even had to install it without serial connector or monitor, at all)
• 2016[09:57:47] <jim> how did you know it was booting?
• 2017[09:58:04] <armin> jim: no backup hardware, i do backups to another machine on the network, uni-directional, incremental. disk built in is an old 1tb harddisk i had lying around, 1,5ghz, 512mb ram.
• 2018[09:58:25] <cygnusx1> kudos armin
• 2019[09:58:50] <armin> jim: ipv6 connectivity via peervpn, so always accessible via a nice short hostname, too, no matter where i am.
• 2020[09:58:56] <cygnusx1> and i thought i did something when i managed to install archlinux on an armv7a lol
• 2021[09:59:09] <armin> cygnusx1: you DID.
• 2022[09:59:17] <armin> cygnusx1: keep doing that. :)
• 2023[09:59:23] <cygnusx1> yea a tabletfrom china
• 2024[09:59:42] <cygnusx1> quad core sun8i with mali400 gpu
• 2025[09:59:45] <armin> oh wow. does it run good with multitouch and zoom gestures and such?
• 2026[09:59:49] <cygnusx1> yep
• 2027[09:59:52] <armin> oh wow, that's a decent machine.
• 2028[10:00:00] <cygnusx1> it was $35 direct from hong kong
• 2029[10:00:01] <armin> wow. so you can zoom in with 2 fingers?
• 2030[10:00:05] <cygnusx1> yes
• 2031[10:00:06] <armin> are you kidding?
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• 2033[10:00:17] <cygnusx1> i have xfce
• 2034[10:00:21] <armin> can you post a picture? :)
• 2035[10:00:25] <cygnusx1> surely
• 2036[10:00:28] <cygnusx1> i sec
• 2037[10:00:45] <cygnusx1> i even have hexchat on it
• 2038[10:01:14] <armin> this is one of my other notebooks (sorry guys, that one runs fedora, not debian, but this one here i type on right now at least does): replaced-url
• 2039[10:01:38] <armin> almost falls apart, works 100%.
• 2040[10:01:52] <cygnusx1> i5 right?
• 2041[10:02:00] <armin> yup!
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• 2043[10:02:01] <cygnusx1> my bro has that same pc
• 2044[10:02:03] <armin> and even IPS panel.
• 2045[10:02:08] <cygnusx1> its a good machine
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• 2047[10:02:17] <cygnusx1> his is falling apart as weell
• 2048[10:02:58] * jelly points cygnusx1 and armin over to #debian-offtopic next door for non-support chat
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• 2050[10:03:24] <armin> jelly: oh, thanks for reminding us, my apologies, we're moving right now.
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• 2062[10:13:18] <jim> I dunno if this is a bug or not... but it seems like purging kernel images leaves the initrd image
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• 2064[10:13:51] <cygnusx1> replaced-url
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• 2072[10:17:21] <Denis> nigro
• 2073[10:17:22] <Denis> c
• 2074[10:17:23] <Denis> cf
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• 2076[10:17:44] <Guest49447> sfs
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• 2084[10:18:55] <jelly> Guest49447: it seems your car has taken control of the keyboard. If you have something to ask, PM me for unmute
• 2085[10:18:59] <jelly> cat* dammit
• 2086[10:19:23] <cygnusx1> lol
• 2087[10:19:43] <jim> cars can't take over ??!
• 2088[10:20:15] <jelly> too large for keyboard input
• 2089[10:20:35] <Zarthus> who knows, maybe he is driving and his car has a built in computer
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• 2091[10:20:46] <Zarthus> one of those fancy google cars
• 2092[10:20:58] <joze> remember to ignore joins parts quits nicks
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• 2096[10:23:57] <tjcarter> "Alexa, please ask #debian what the proper way to adjust the hardware ALSA mixer settings when PulseAudio is installed." "Okay, I asked #debian "nigro, c, cf, and sfs."
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• 2100[10:24:33] <tjcarter> ...
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• 2103[10:25:21] <jim> what's libptexenc1? does it have to do with xen?
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• 2107[10:26:22] <jim> anyway... bb shortly, almost done
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• 2114[10:29:57] <ayansh> jmcnaught/jim #debian: Thanks for your help/support all issues resolved. VMWare workstation is installed on an older kernel, had to patch vmnet.tar files.
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• 2119[10:32:14] <Walakea> what is the name of package that contains linux kernel? is there a backported version?
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• 2122[10:32:33] <jelly> ,kernels
• 2123[10:32:34] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.5.0-rc7-686-pae (4.5~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.4.0-1-686 (4.4.6-1); stretch: 4.3.0-1-686 (4.3.5-1); jessie-backports: 4.3.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.3.5-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.73-2+deb7u3)
• 2124[10:32:48] <jim> linux-image-version-arch
• 2125[10:33:07] <jelly> Walakea: it's basically linux-image-`uname -r`
• 2126[10:33:23] <jelly> Walakea: what are you trying to solve?
• 2127[10:33:39] <jim> you can... apt-cache search linux-image to see ones you can install
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• 2139[10:38:31] <jim> jmcnaught, hi, still here?
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• 2142[10:38:48] <USB> Hello
• 2143[10:38:53] <jim> hi
• 2144[10:39:22] <USB> I need help creating a bootable USB from Debian Wheezy :)
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• 2146[10:39:42] <USB> How do i do it?
• 2147[10:39:49] <jim> from? a bootable usb that does what part?
• 2148[10:39:59] <jim> or, just that does what?
• 2149[10:40:12] <USB> that boots windows 10
• 2150[10:40:52] <jim> do you have that installed on your (nonusb, internal) disks?
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• 2152[10:41:17] <jim> grub should be able to boot it... I'm not sure how to do it
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• 2156[10:41:52] <USB> Yes
• 2157[10:41:52] <USB> I have the ISO image
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• 2159[10:42:24] <USB> And i don't know what to do
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• 2161[10:42:39] <USB> jim: grub? How? :3
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• 2164[10:43:23] <jim> I have (and am now running) kernel 3.16.0-4-amd64; how can I install xen?
• 2165[10:44:05] <jim> USB, you also have linux installed?
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• 2169[10:44:34] <jim> err not xen, how would I install kvm
• 2170[10:44:38] <USB> jim: yes
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• 2173[10:45:32] <jim> I think the package called os-prober could find windows for you and update its configuration so you can boot whichever
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• 2177[10:45:53] <USB> ok
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• 2180[10:48:15] <USB> jim: well, how do you download packages from packages.debian.org
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• 2185[10:50:19] <Lehnux> hi
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• 2206[11:03:08] <jim> USB, I don't, I download em from the archive sites (packages.debian.org is for showing you what packages are available, and a little about them)
• 2207[11:03:18] <USB> ok
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• 2209[11:03:53] <Walakea> is btrfs suitable for USB devices?
• 2210[11:04:01] <jim> if your sources.list is set up properly and your net connection is working fine, you can just apt-get install os-prober
• 2211[11:04:27] <USB> okay
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• 2213[11:04:57] <USB> it says os-prober is already the newsest version
• 2214[11:05:06] <jim> USB, or apt-get install (whichever packages you want)
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• 2216[11:05:36] <USB> well it was already installed
• 2217[11:05:44] <jim> so you got it already... and it doesn't give you a choice to boot windows when you boot?
• 2218[11:05:56] <USB> root@kali:~# os-prober No volume groups found /dev/sda6:Kali GNU/Linux 2.0 (2.0):Kali:linux
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• 2220[11:06:17] <USB> My window's boot record is corrupted
• 2221[11:06:29] <jim> kali isn't the only linux you have installed?
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• 2225[11:07:14] <jim> that part I don't know how to help with... maybe on ##windows they can help?
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• 2228[11:08:47] <USB> ok
• 2229[11:08:57] <USB> i had windows and ubuntu previousl
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• 2231[11:09:10] <USB> and my boot sector was corrupted when i installed kali.
• 2232[11:09:19] <USB> jim: neither ubuntu nor windows work now
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• 2234[11:10:21] <staaannz> hi
• 2235[11:10:24] <staaannz> coucou
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• 2237[11:11:30] <USB> hi
• 2238[11:11:43] <jim> USB, yeah, you might have to install grub again (grub-install /dev/sda maybe, depending on which you have installed)
• 2239[11:12:26] <USB> so i can fix it from my kali terminal? :D
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• 2243[11:13:44] <USB> jim: wait
• 2244[11:13:49] <USB> jim: I'll send you a scrshot
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• 2247[11:14:38] <USB> jim: replaced-url
• 2248[11:15:05] <USB> jim: on which /dev/sda do i install grub?
• 2249[11:15:40] <USB> i think its sda6 because the 51 GB one is the kali partition
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• 2251[11:16:33] <jim> I have the kvm wiki, reading it, installed stuff, got this: "Setting up qemu-system-x86 (1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u5a) ... \n update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults"
• 2252[11:20:15] <relaxed> jim: I think that message stems from the move to systemd.
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• 2261[11:24:56] <JyZyXEL> if i need to pin a single package from sid, do i need to add the whole sources?
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• 2264[11:26:53] <Alien1it> Helo....ciao a tutti.
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• 2268[11:27:16] <jim> hi
• 2269[11:27:33] * jim waits for other shoe to drop...
• 2270[11:27:53] <USB> hi
• 2271[11:27:55] <USB> :3
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• 2279[11:28:53] <cygnusx1> USB you always install grub to the root of the drive...so /dev/sda in your case
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• 2282[11:29:29] <USB> cygnusx1: thanks
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• 2288[11:30:41] <USB> cygnusx1: well, it says installation finished
• 2289[11:30:48] <USB> so now i should be able to use ubuntu :D
• 2290[11:30:58] <USB> cygnusx1: I'll let you know if it works, brb
• 2291[11:31:12] <cygnusx1> kk
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• 2307[11:34:34] <jim> the debian wiki for kvm says that debian kernels ship with the kvm modules... is that still true? or would I have to build them? I installed the package... do I now have to restart?
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• 2310[11:35:01] <shibly> I have ran this command: update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
• 2311[11:35:20] <shibly> At the end i got: ‘/tmp/flashplugin-nonfree.CySdx51TAm/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz’ saved [6968176/6968176]
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• 2314[11:35:37] <shibly> So has the flash plugin been updated?
• 2315[11:35:40] <cygnusx1> yes
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• 2317[11:36:26] <shibly> Why is the flash plugin outdated often?
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• 2319[11:37:00] <jim> that's a question for the people who update
• 2320[11:37:05] <cygnusx1> ^
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• 2323[11:37:36] <bitch_ass_> Why isn't Jitsi in the Debian repos?
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• 2326[11:38:05] <jim> what;sajitsy?
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• 2330[11:39:01] <shibly> Is the adobe support for flash player over for linux?
• 2331[11:39:25] <cygnusx1> and shilby it does that because that file is just a temporary file that points you to the proprietary binaries of adobe
• 2332[11:39:49] <bitch_ass_> jim: :D
• 2333[11:39:52] <bitch_ass_> jim: Jitsi
• 2334[11:40:14] <relaxed> shibly: install google-chrome (from google's website) and you'll have up-to-date flash support.
• 2335[11:40:16] <shibly> Should i remove flashplugin-nonfree and install pepperflashplugin-nonfree ?
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• 2337[11:40:31] <cygnusx1> i like relaxed's idea tbh
• 2338[11:40:42] <shibly> I want to use firefox
• 2339[11:41:00] <Lehnux> hi cygnusx1
• 2340[11:41:00] <cygnusx1> if you are gonna be using proprietary stuff might as well go all the way and use chrome
• 2341[11:41:07] <cygnusx1> hi lehnux :)
• 2342[11:41:10] <drmagoo> Does anyone here know if its possible to run rdesktop with geometry set to one thing and "screen resolution" to something else?
• 2343[11:41:30] <cygnusx1> and shilby firefox has at least 30 flash plugins
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• 2345[11:41:37] <cygnusx1> you dont need flashplayer
• 2346[11:41:45] <relaxed> I use firefox too, but fall back to chrome for flash supports. Out of date flash is a major security concern.
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• 2349[11:42:09] <shibly> cygnusx1: Why don't i need flashplayer?
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• 2352[11:42:48] <cygnusx1> because firefox has flash plugins
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• 2354[11:43:08] <bitch_ass_> replaced-url
• 2355[11:43:12] <bitch_ass_> Why isn't Jitsi in the repos?
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• 2357[11:43:37] <Lehnux> Jitis?
• 2358[11:43:44] <Lehnux> HWat's this?
• 2359[11:44:27] <shibly> cygnusx1: Does firefox have built-in flashplugin?
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• 2361[11:45:04] <relaxed> shibly: I don't think so
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• 2363[11:45:18] <USB> cygnusx1: it didnt work
• 2364[11:45:28] <cygnusx1> shilby no
• 2365[11:45:35] <USB> cygnusx1: Well
• 2366[11:45:37] <USB> cygnusx1: when i try to boot into ubuntu i get a grub terminal
• 2367[11:45:48] <cygnusx1> usb it seems your mbr is corrupt then
• 2368[11:45:53] <cygnusx1> or something
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• 2371[11:46:15] <cygnusx1> can any system boot from the grub menu?
• 2372[11:46:32] <USB> yes
• 2373[11:46:33] <USB> cygnusx1: now?
• 2374[11:46:43] <shibly> cygnusx1: How does firefox have flash plugins?
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• 2377[11:47:10] <USB> cygnusx1: idk
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• 2379[11:48:04] <relaxed> shibly: it uses flashplugin-nonfree, but I don't think adobe supports it anymore
• 2380[11:48:21] <Lehnux> It's unsupported as far as I know
• 2381[11:48:43] <shibly> So what's the solution for firefox, i want to use firefox instead of chrome
• 2382[11:49:02] <USB> cygnusx1: what do i do now?
• 2383[11:49:05] <relaxed> shibly: I think pepperflashplugin-nonfree is what google-chrome uses
• 2384[11:49:39] <shibly> Can pepperflashplugin-nonfree be used with firefox?
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• 2386[11:50:30] <relaxed> you can try, uninstall flashplugin-nonfree and install pepper
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• 2393[11:53:10] <cygnusx1> try to boot kali
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• 2396[11:53:21] <cygnusx1> or something else in the grub menu USB
• 2397[11:53:28] <shibly> I have removed flashplugin-nonfree, but i can run youtube video, how/why?
• 2398[11:53:38] <shibly> It's running youtube video
• 2399[11:53:49] <cygnusx1> well then i wouldnt complain
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• 2401[11:54:01] <cygnusx1> and probably because youtube uses html5
• 2402[11:54:04] <cygnusx1> not flash
• 2403[11:54:43] <cygnusx1> it only uses flash if the video is made for flash
• 2404[11:54:48] <Lehnux> youtube use html5 I just checked atm
• 2405[11:54:53] <USB> cygnusx1: what?
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• 2407[11:55:15] <cygnusx1> usb can you boot any of the operating systems in your grub menu?
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• 2409[11:55:29] <USB> cygnusx1: I can boot kali OS in the same PC
• 2410[11:55:38] <USB> but i don't know how i do it from the grub menu
• 2411[11:55:42] <cygnusx1> is it on the same hard drive?
• 2412[11:55:48] <shibly> Lehnux: How did you check if youtube use html5 or not?
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• 2414[11:55:57] <cygnusx1> google
• 2415[11:56:01] <Lehnux> shibly: wireshark?
• 2416[11:56:19] <cygnusx1> "does youtube use flash or html5"
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• 2418[11:56:24] <cygnusx1> in a search bar
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• 2421[11:56:38] <relaxed> shibly: sorry, you want to install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
• 2422[11:56:42] <Lehnux> shibly: and when I watch a video in youtube I open the dev tools
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• 2424[11:57:11] <cygnusx1> i would just get a firefox add-on for flash
• 2425[11:57:26] <cygnusx1> there are like 20 called youtube flashplayer etc...
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• 2427[11:57:48] <cygnusx1> why do you need flash so badly shilby?
• 2428[11:58:02] <cygnusx1> its outdated and basic
• 2429[11:58:34] <shibly> Let's see if pepper flash works with firefox, i'm going to install it now
• 2430[11:58:44] <relaxed> shibly: apt-cache show browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
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• 2432[11:59:36] <shibly> N: Unable to locate package browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
• 2433[11:59:45] <shibly> E: No packages found
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• 2439[12:01:07] <shibly> Pepper flash plugin doesn't work with firefox, in a website i'm prompted to install adobe flash player to run a video
• 2440[12:01:07] <relaxed> shibly: ok, replaced-url
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• 2448[12:03:09] <shibly> How would i add jessie-backports ?
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• 2451[12:03:41] <bsirius> replaced-url
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• 2473[12:12:35] <shibly> I have installed aptitude install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
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• 2476[12:12:46] <shibly> But it's not running flash video on a website
• 2477[12:12:57] <shibly> [fresh] [error] load_ppp_module, can't find libpepflashplayer.so
• 2478[12:13:13] <shibly> [fresh 3466] plugin missing, using placeholder
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• 2512[12:30:55] <cast> if I want apparmor network constraints to work, what should I do? Are there any debian kernels that support it? [I'm open to stretch] I notice this has been a wishlist ticket 2013 - replaced-url
• 2513[12:30:56] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 2526[12:35:37] <Lehnux> hi
• 2527[12:36:20] <lancelot_of> any suggestion on how to use iPod nano 4th gen 16 GB on debian? I tried both gtkpod and thythmbox, but both fail working. It seems they sync music, but after unmounting the device no music is found...I fear it is not possible, I don't want to jailbreak the new device
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• 2563[13:06:41] <taylorbyte> im having some difficulty installing xen i have installed these 2 packages xen-linux-system xen-tools but i had an error on boot "XZ-compressed data is corrupt" so i deleted the xen kernel removed those 2 packages and installed them again, but the xen kernel is not back in my /boot anymore?
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• 2573[13:12:44] <bsirius> can you find the rpm and decompress it
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• 2579[13:15:46] <taylorbyte> deb you mean ?
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• 2581[13:16:50] <bsirius> oh sorry, yes deb
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• 2594[13:20:54] <taylorbyte> my /var/cache/apt/archives/ didnt have them because ive been having to do apt-clear apt has been segfaulting too but im trying to ignore that problem for now because it goes away for a while after a reboot i'll try again in a min
• 2595[13:21:17] <debstra> i'm getting the following message today: Err replaced-url
• 2596[13:21:49] <debstra> when executing aptitude update
• 2597[13:22:26] <jim> I guess pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
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• 2601[13:22:59] <awal1> How to get a verbose systemd boot the most closest possible to the sysvinit one? ( I have tried those in debian wiki, but they are too verbose)
• 2602[13:23:06] <TomTomTosch> !tell debstra about squeeze sources
• 2603[13:23:37] <TomTomTosch> debstra, you need to point your sources to the archive.
• 2604[13:24:11] <bsirius> @awal1remove the quite parameter in your kernel line
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• 2606[13:24:28] <debstra> replaced-url
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• 2612[13:25:36] <awal1> bsirius, removing "quiet" isn't what I was looking, but thanks ;)
• 2613[13:26:04] <jim> yeah, squeeze isn't on that mirror, he's right, it's been moved to the archives
• 2614[13:26:04] <awal1> removing quiet is the = extreme verbosity :P
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• 2616[13:26:12] <bsirius> @awal1 then do --verbose in grub
• 2617[13:26:43] <debstra> couple of days ago i could still do the update
• 2618[13:26:57] <jim> I wouldn'/t know why
• 2619[13:27:08] <awal1> bsirius, ok, I'll try what happens with --verbose
• 2620[13:27:41] <debstra> screwed up my package list, so, i want to rebuild it again in preparation for upgrading to wheezy
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• 2622[13:27:55] <TomTomTosch> thes removed the squeeze-lts directory a bit late for whatever reason. doesn't really matter.
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• 2624[13:28:04] <taylorbyte> bsirius: replaced-url
• 2625[13:28:05] <TomTomTosch> s/thes/they
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• 2627[13:28:22] <bsirius> @awal1 look for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in grub, you probably have 'quiet splash' you can change those parameters to what you want to be displayed
• 2628[13:30:08] <debstra> so, should i find a mirror that has the squeeze folder?
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• 2630[13:30:46] <TomTomTosch> debstra, the archive. the bot told you what to do.
• 2631[13:31:06] <awal1> bsirius, yeah I know that (I'm familiar with the cmdline stuff). in standard debian there is only 'quiet' no 'quiet splash). As I said Iwas looking for a parameter that will make the systmd boot output similar to the sysvinit one :)
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• 2633[13:32:20] <bsirius> @awal1 I believe removing the parameters such as GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" should do it
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• 2635[13:32:56] <ghormoon> hi, how can one disk in two systems (both debian jessie) once have Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes and once Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes?
• 2636[13:33:00] <bsirius> @taylorbyte: I haven't seen that before so I'm not sure what to suggest, some people got around by chrooting but I haven't tried it myself
• 2637[13:33:04] <debstra> sorry tom tom tosch.. whats that about a bot?
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• 2639[13:33:53] <fitkoh> #/join #linux
• 2640[13:33:59] <TomTomTosch> debstra, the bot should have sent a msg to you with a template for sources.list. if you follow the instructions you should get it working again.
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• 2643[13:34:55] <awal1> bsirius, try that your self and you will see what's the result. thanks for your attention, anyway :)
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• 2645[13:35:06] <debstra> ok. i noticed. thanks tom tom tosch
• 2646[13:35:52] <TomTomTosch> debstra, no problem. good luck with the upgrade. also, you should read the release notes for wheezy if you have any important services running.
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• 2648[13:36:41] <debstra> documenting myself at the moment... :-) i should have done it earlier...
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• 2651[13:37:14] <TomTomTosch> probably :P
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• 2656[13:40:36] <debstra> ok. i de-activated my prior repos, and added the ones instructed by the bot. now i get the following error: "E: Release file expired, ignoring replaced-url
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• 2672[13:50:14] <taylorbyte> " install the hypervisor, xen aware kernel" replaced-url
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• 2677[13:52:49] <TomTomTosch> debstra, heh interesting, the release file truly is expired.
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• 2679[13:53:13] <TomTomTosch> debstra, you can get around it with -o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false
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• 2687[13:57:42] <debstra> tom tom tosch, for now i have deactivated replaced-url
• 2688[13:57:54] <taylorbyte> is there some simple command im not just not seeing to generate / copy the xen kernel and initrd to /boot ?
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• 2700[14:01:33] <TomTomTosch> debstra, i'm not sure. usually you would not remove it and have a fully updated system when you do the upgrade.
• 2701[14:01:35] <taylorbyte> just in case anyones wondering its this package "xen-hypervisor" i was looking for
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• 2703[14:02:07] <TomTomTosch> debstra, but i would say it does not matter much.
• 2704[14:02:44] <bsirius> taylorbyte, do you have the kernel and just missing the initrd image or do you not have the kernel at all?
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• 2707[14:03:44] <taylorbyte> bsirius: i was missing both since i deleted them and was trying to re-install them. but the xen-hypervisor meta-package put them back now
• 2708[14:04:00] <bsirius> taylorbyte, so what is the issue now?
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• 2710[14:04:15] <taylorbyte> im goint to try boot it now
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• 2712[14:04:52] <cisc0> hello
• 2713[14:05:00] <taylorbyte> bsirius: now i have a black screen
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• 2717[14:06:07] <bsirius> taylorbyte, does it pass POST, does it get to the GRUB menu?
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• 2721[14:08:11] <taylorbyte> it loads the xen hypervisor kernel , but as soon as it trys to load dom0 it goes black. ...another problem: every time i boot back in normal non-xen mode i get systemd saying "A start job is running for dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-keys:-xen_dom0.key.device (1min 30s)"
• 2722[14:09:41] <taylorbyte> bsirius: i have "options=console=vga loglvl=all" in my xen.conf
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• 2724[14:09:53] <taylorbyte> xen.cfg*
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• 2727[14:13:25] <bsirius> taylorbyte, have you checked your fstab and verify you actually have all partition set up?
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• 2734[14:15:59] <taylorbyte> bsirius: yeah i have fstab set up, even tried commenting something out, i found this bug report i think its the problem: replaced-url
• 2735[14:16:07] <judd> Bug replaced-url
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• 2738[14:17:01] <taylorbyte> the workaround seems a bit dodgy tho
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• 2758[14:23:11] <Walakea> is it safe to install linux kernel from backports on a stable system (desktop)?
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• 2760[14:24:24] <TomTomTosch> it will probably not blow your system up. but it's less tested and probably less stable. why do you want the backports kernel?
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• 2765[14:24:52] <Walakea> i have quite a new laptop
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• 2767[14:25:05] <TomTomTosch> and what's the problem with it?
• 2768[14:25:20] <Walakea> not really
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• 2770[14:25:51] <TomTomTosch> if you don't have a reason to get a newer kernel you should stick to the default one.
• 2771[14:26:10] <Walakea> i mean i had to manually install something to get my wifi running but now it works
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• 2773[14:26:37] <TomTomTosch> a different kernel will still not have the non-free firmware included.
• 2774[14:26:47] <buff> newer isn't always better
• 2775[14:26:56] <bsirius> taylorbyte, can't you just take a snapshot? I assume you're working with virtual machines and try the suggested fix
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• 2778[14:28:58] <taylorbyte> bsirius: i can only boot without xen at the moment and when i do the bug in that link happens
• 2779[14:29:01] <Walakea> ok
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• 2798[14:34:14] <bsirius> taylorbyte, can you post the output of fstab and blkid?
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• 2800[14:34:31] <bsirius> taylorbyte, have you tried waiting for 1m 30s?
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• 2808[14:36:29] <taylorbyte> bsirius: i added a security.list and updates.list to my /etc/apt/sources.list.d and did an update and problems happened and now i have this replaced-url
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• 2810[14:36:49] <taylorbyte> bsirius: waiting gets the system booted but its irritating
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• 2816[14:38:33] <bsirius> taylorbyte, after it boost have you tried looking at logs with journalctl?
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• 2819[14:39:25] <debtest9> Fast question, why in the first installation apt-get creates also the config for bind, when i remove and reinstall this not happening ?
• 2820[14:39:44] <debtest9> How can i force apt-get to clean install completely with all configs a certain package ?
• 2821[14:39:54] <cisc0> It seems that a lot of people have encountered problems with their wifi cards especially with some rtl drivers, basically these rtl drivers doesn't use the good antenna on the wifi card. Here is the solution, just in case replaced-url
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• 2823[14:40:51] <jim> I heed to establish a bridge for the kvm guests... I have a def that used to work in my /etc/network/interfaces, which I'll now pastebin
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• 2825[14:41:00] <taylorbyte> bsirius: about the waiting problem yes dmesg shows the same messages as the guy in the bug link
• 2826[14:41:07] <maddawg3> you should definitley heed that jim
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• 2828[14:41:24] <jim> which that? sorry?
• 2829[14:41:26] <bsirius> taylorbyte, ok a bit extreme but can you try stracing the installation? it seems weird that something that runs as root can't create hard links
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• 2833[14:42:38] <jim> maddawg3, which thing should I heed? meanwhile I'll get that pastebin
• 2834[14:42:42] <taylorbyte> that file system is vfat for UEFI to work
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• 2836[14:42:59] <maddawg3> you said you heed something
• 2837[14:43:07] <bsirius> taylorbyte, do you have any attributed set on /boot/System.map-3.16.0-4-amd64 perhaps? either on the dir or the file itself?
• 2838[14:43:08] <maddawg3> so i was just telling you that you should heed
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• 2840[14:43:54] <jim> oh, I made the n too long
• 2841[14:43:57] <taylorbyte> bsirius: i think vfat doesen't allow hardlinking
• 2842[14:44:11] <taylorbyte> or symlinking
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• 2844[14:44:58] <MY123> NTFS allows that
• 2845[14:45:20] <taylorbyte> UEFI needs vfat
• 2846[14:45:27] <jim> anyway, my /etc/network/interfaces (with br0 comented out)... I run 3.16.something-amd64: replaced-url
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• 2848[14:45:36] <bsirius> taylorbyte, replaced-url
• 2849[14:45:51] <taylorbyte> maybe its some idea that debian has about having the ESP in /boot/EFI instead of /boot
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• 2856[14:48:58] <jim> it makes my basic networking on .1.4 fail periodically, and I have to kill the bridge dead, and try to get the basic interface up (by force-downing it then force-uping it)
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• 2862[14:49:51] <jim> also it says something about the timer that suggests an invalid argument for a timer
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• 2867[14:50:14] <taylorbyte> bsirius: hmmm not in the mood to recompile dpkg. im gonna unmount my vfat ESP from /boot and try run apt-get then move the /boot dir to /boot.bak them remount my ESP to /boot and copy the files in there
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• 2870[14:51:12] <drmagoo> Does anyone here know if its possible to run rdesktop with geometry set to one thing and "screen resolution" to something else?
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• 2874[14:52:48] <taylorbyte> bsirius: apt-get didnt complain that time :)
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• 2877[14:53:38] <bsirius> taylorbyte, cool, does it work after mounting the volume back?
• 2878[14:54:54] <taylorbyte> bsirius: i mounted the volume back and mv the files in there and rebooted to see if xen hypervisor would work but i got a call trace thing im gonna try locate a serial port on the motherboard
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• 2881[14:56:13] <bsirius> taylorbyte, what version of xen are you running?
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• 2883[14:57:04] <bsirius> drmagoo, geometry is either expressed with resolution or a percentage, you can't have both as an option
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• 2885[14:57:19] <taylorbyte> bsirius: 4.4
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• 2893[15:00:41] <taylorbyte> whats a Trusted Platform Module (TPM) header ? is that a serial port?
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• 2897[15:02:52] <bsirius> hardware encryption, are you using a laptop?
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• 2899[15:03:25] <taylorbyte> a desktop replaced-url
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• 2905[15:06:39] <taylorbyte> it has a minipci-e maybe ill just have to get a miniPCI-2 serial card
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• 2907[15:07:42] <bsirius> taylorbyte, I wouldn't know about that sorry
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• 2916[15:11:07] <taylorbyte> bsirius: i think ill need one of these to copy the xen output: replaced-url
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• 2921[15:14:36] <Zumochi> Hi! Is it correct a recent git vulnerability has not been fixed yet in stable/testing and only in unstable? Specifically replaced-url
• 2922[15:14:53] <bsirius> taylorbyte, that's expensive, you need to be sure you need it before you buy it I guess
• 2923[15:15:27] <taylorbyte> actually it has a normal PCI-e port i can use one of these replaced-url
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• 2931[15:19:47] <jim> apt-get should use the libs rather than dpkg
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• 2943[15:25:12] <taylorbyte> bsirius: i ended up videoing the screen with my phone and it says "Xen is relinquishing VGA console" just before it goes black
• 2944[15:25:33] <taylorbyte> and num lock doesnt turn off or on now
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• 2956[15:27:47] <jim> keyboard not connected? remove/insert plug?
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• 2958[15:28:10] <jim> it's safe to do that with usb
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• 2960[15:28:41] <bsirius> taylorbyte, I'm not sure what to make of it, sorry
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• 2965[15:31:42] <TomTomTosch> really? serial? D:
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• 2970[15:35:45] <TomTomTosch> if you have an arduino around you can try if it will output to an usb-serial adapter.
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• 2973[15:36:10] <TomTomTosch> me thinks it uses the same device
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• 2980[15:38:58] <jim> when bringing up an interface with ifup, can you tell it to print the commands instead of doing them?
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• 2985[15:41:50] <TomTomTosch> what commands do you want it to print?
• 2986[15:41:52] <Brigo> jim, ifup --help (-n)
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• 2994[15:44:27] <jim> Brigo, thanks
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• 3003[15:47:38] <julius> anybody here who got graphics acceleration for the integrated intel card in a i5-6200u skylake running? ive used the kernel 4.3.0 from testing in combination with firmware-linux-nonfree. but still i cant boot the system without adding "nomodeset" to the grub command
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• 3006[15:48:12] <lancelot_of> any suggestion on how to use iPod nano 4th gen 16 GB on debian? I tried both gtkpod and thythmbox, but both fail working. It seems they sync music, but after unmounting the device no music is found...I fear it is not possible, I don't want to jailbreak the new device
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• 3012[15:50:06] <mtn> julius: which version of debian?
• 3013[15:50:11] <julius> 8.3.0
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• 3015[15:50:43] <mtn> julius: then using testing packages is a very bad idea. use backports. I think it has an intel video driver, as well
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• 3017[15:51:10] <julius> or was the 4.3.0 kernel from jessie-backports? im unsure
• 3018[15:51:40] <mtn> julius: best to be sure ;)
• 3019[15:51:54] <julius> ah yes, this one: replaced-url
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• 3021[15:52:00] <julius> its 4.3.0
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• 3023[15:52:18] <mtn> julius: how about the intel video driver as I mentioned?
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• 3026[15:52:49] <julius> whats the package called?
• 3027[15:53:15] <TomTomTosch> the one in testing is too. check what 'apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64' says.
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• 3029[15:53:42] <julius> ok
• 3030[15:54:28] <julius> have to boot first
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• 3034[15:55:38] <julius> its backports
• 3035[15:55:54] <TomTomTosch> good :)
• 3036[15:56:02] <julius> is there a way to update installed packages from backports?
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• 3038[15:56:34] <TomTomTosch> those update too, it depends on the maintainer though.
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• 3050[16:01:32] <julius> apt-cache policy firmware-linux-nonfree says: 0.43, but: replaced-url
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• 3058[16:04:08] <rappscallion> hi there, can somebody give me a little help setting up an bluetooth keyboard on debian wheezy?
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• 3062[16:05:17] <julius> looks like mtn was right, xserver-xorg-video-intel from jessie-backports made it boot
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• 3065[16:07:09] <julius> well it boots, but thats about it concerning video output. sluggish as hell and high cpu load
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• 3068[16:07:36] <jim> how does a bridge interface get created? I notice there's nothing that creates it that appears when trying ifup -n br0
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• 3080[16:16:20] <grawity> well ifup *should* do that itself
• 3081[16:16:27] <grawity> but manually, it's `ip link add br0 type bridge` or `brctl addbr br0`
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• 3092[16:20:04] <okee> How do you change the name of a foreign drive that is displayed in Debian? Currently one of them is listed as 100 GB Volume
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• 3094[16:22:07] <Dganjo> Hey guys
• 3095[16:22:38] <Dganjo> Can you tell me how to change my root password
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• 3101[16:25:21] <okee> please memoserv me with a response. I need to log off.
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• 3104[16:25:38] <Dganjo> I think my debian has been infected after i clicked a wrong webpage
• 3105[16:25:42] <vervet> okee: tune2fs
• 3106[16:26:09] <rappscallion> just type "passwd" in a terminal as root, then enter your new password twice
• 3107[16:26:15] <boubou> I use user ALL=(ALL:NOPASSWD: ALL in centos for my /etc/sudoers
• 3108[16:26:21] <Dganjo> Ok thnx
• 3109[16:26:22] <boubou> and it works perfectly
• 3110[16:26:28] <boubou> but not in debian
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• 3112[16:26:34] <boubou> normal ?
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• 3114[16:26:40] <Dganjo> Ok
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• 3120[16:27:40] <markybob> boubou: user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL
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• 3122[16:28:02] <boubou> yes, I just saw that on Google...
• 3123[16:28:09] <boubou> is it the same for centos ?
• 3124[16:28:20] <markybob> boubou: i have no idea what they do.
• 3125[16:28:36] <boubou> ok thx markybob
• 3126[16:28:38] <boubou> ;)
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• 3128[16:30:51] <Dganjo> Hey guys so i just wanna ask you something
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• 3131[16:31:33] <Dganjo> What does mission-control-5 program do?
• 3132[16:32:29] <markybob> Dganjo: it's used for telepathy
• 3133[16:32:38] <Dganjo> I hav my system-monitor on, and hav it on
• 3134[16:33:04] <markybob> Dganjo: you can man mission-control-5
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• 3157[16:40:45] <Dganjo> What does at-spi2-registryd program do ? I hav it running in my computer
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• 3165[16:43:34] <markybob> Dganjo: it's GNOME Assistive Tech Service Provider Interface. you know how to google, right?
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• 3167[16:44:08] <Dganjo> Ok
• 3168[16:44:27] <Dganjo> Seriously guys im freaked out,i mean
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• 3173[16:45:06] <sypher> Dganjo: What is your actual concern? That you don't know what installed software does? Google.
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• 3178[16:46:34] <Dganjo> Tht webpage contained google word,i mean,its logo in it,but it was not in its domain name
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• 3180[16:47:41] <sypher> Dganjo: What domain name did you type, and where did you end up?
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• 3184[16:48:04] <sypher> Dganjo: "that webpage" and "its domain name" don't help. Specifics. Data.
• 3185[16:48:18] <Dganjo> Wait
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• 3188[16:48:48] <markybob> Dganjo: plus that can easily be explained with google apps for your domain
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• 3204[16:55:56] <rappscallion> is somebody here familiar with bluetooth in debian? im pretty much new to this topic. i'm trying to set up an keyboard but cant open gnome-bluetooth and blueman doesn't work either. hcitool scan says "device not available: no such device", even though a bluetooth-mouse is working perfectly right now.
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• 3227[17:04:43] <Dganjo> Markybob,bro you there?
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• 3233[17:05:41] <Dganjo> If you see in the webpage its not me who wrote the comment
• 3234[17:06:26] <Dganjo> Thts my name pal
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• 3243[17:10:14] <Dganjo> Anyone there
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• 3250[17:13:00] <sypher> Dganjo: Potato. Jackfruit. Alternator. Derivative. Whitewash. If that sounds like nonsense, then good, you understand how all of us feel right now.
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• 3252[17:13:34] <Dganjo> Idk
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• 3254[17:13:42] <sypher> Dganjo: Obviously.
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• 3256[17:14:57] <Dganjo> Im feeling psyched now
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• 3258[17:15:13] <somiaj> Dganjo: if you have an actual question, just ask it. If you are looking for some offtopic chat, there are better channels.
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• 3260[17:15:47] <transhuman> HI I know this probably has something to do with floppy emulation or some such thing in bios, but I am unable to get my system to boot from the xen live cd, I know its based on debians live builder, anyone able to shed some light on it?
• 3261[17:16:33] <transhuman> to give some background I have used dd to put it on a usb thumb drive
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• 3263[17:16:37] <transhuman> and tried booting it
• 3264[17:16:42] <somiaj> transhuman: does your system do efi or legacy boot. The debian live images only support legacy boot and if your machine only boots efi that could be a problem.
• 3265[17:16:44] <transhuman> this works for most cdrom s
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• 3267[17:17:03] <transhuman> its actually set for legacy boot
• 3268[17:17:18] <somiaj> transhuman: as for this paticular image, is this one you built yourself or got from some third party?
• 3269[17:17:20] <Dganjo> Check this webpage: cplusplus.com/forum/beginner/187057/
• 3270[17:17:37] <Dganjo> The one named MaBunny is me
• 3271[17:17:47] <transhuman> this is the one from the xen webpage which was built with the debian builder I am almost positive
• 3272[17:18:15] <Dganjo> The webpage tht is been reffered there is wht im freaked about
• 3273[17:18:23] <transhuman> replaced-url
• 3274[17:18:31] <markybob> Dganjo: are you seriously freaking out about lmgtfy?
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• 3276[17:19:00] <Dganjo> Idk i havent been to tht website before
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• 3278[17:19:10] <markybob> omg
• 3279[17:19:15] <markybob> !lmgtfy
• 3280[17:19:15] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, lmgtfy is a rude but oft-deserved slap in the face which simultaneously points one to the information they so easily could have found themselves by entering some simple search terms into google, especially when the answer is found in the very first result. replaced-url
• 3281[17:19:24] <Dganjo> And it refers to google too
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• 3283[17:19:46] <Dganjo> Ok
• 3284[17:19:50] <markybob> Dganjo: you're perfectly fine. calm down. someone was pointing out that you can't/won't google
• 3285[17:20:00] <somiaj> transhuman: this really isn't the place to get support on an image not made by debian. It could use debians tools, but unsure about xen's image. I would see if they have some support (more likely to find someone familar with the image)
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• 3288[17:20:41] <transhuman> ok, sorry hoping it was a general tweak issue that could get it to boot like selecting a certain emulated version or whatever
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• 3290[17:21:01] <transhuman> hardrive floppy cddrom emulation etc
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• 3295[17:22:16] <somiaj> transhuman: unsure there, there is a #debian-live or some channel like that on irc.oftc.net but I bet you will get the same response. Ask the people who built the actual image.
• 3296[17:23:30] <dutchfish> transhuman, there is also #debian-xen on OFTC
• 3297[17:24:02] <dutchfish> transhuman, for general q's about the debian part you can ask in here
• 3298[17:24:17] <dutchfish> transhuman, some of us use xen
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• 3300[17:24:27] <somiaj> dutchfish: this is more about a specific live image created by xen, and not really debian or xen itself
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• 3302[17:24:39] <dutchfish> somiaj, ah ok, thanks
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• 3304[17:24:49] <somiaj> and if it isn't booting I'm unsure what to suggest except talk to the creaters of the image.
• 3305[17:25:04] <dutchfish> somiaj, yes, fair enough
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• 3314[17:27:00] <transhuman> well thanks guys I appreciate it
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• 3340[17:37:41] <polyzen> is there an equivalent of this for debian? replaced-url
• 3341[17:37:53] <polyzen> that is, an interface to see the source files
• 3342[17:37:56] <polyzen> the content of them
• 3343[17:38:00] *** debhelper sets mode: +l 1704
• 3344[17:38:14] <polyzen> i suppose i could just open the installed packages in vim
• 3345[17:38:18] <polyzen> from cache
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• 3375[17:46:39] <Shawn> is it okay for me to pip install python modules to /usr/local ? I plan on only putting the bare minimum required to make virtualenvs ( replaced-url
• 3376[17:46:42] <Shawn> systems $PATH, and just amend it to the $PATH in my IDE
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• 3381[17:50:54] <a_man> Shawn, are there packages available for them? why not use the packges?
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• 3401[17:56:56] <John> hi all :)
• 3402[17:57:00] <John> I can't apt-get update
• 3403[17:57:14] <John> Err replaced-url
• 3404[17:57:49] <John> Here's the full thing :) replaced-url
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• 3408[17:58:32] <John> If anyone has any advice i'd be very greatful to hear it :)
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• 3417[18:00:03] <a_man> ppa repos work with debian?
• 3418[18:00:13] <a_man> looks like you can update fine
• 3419[18:00:18] <a_man> just a couple wonky repos
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• 3434[18:04:47] <peterrooney> John: please, /msg dpkg frankendebian
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• 3437[18:05:40] <vitaerk> hi, how long is debian 8.3.0 supported?
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• 3467[18:15:11] <Krampus> Is "do-release-upgrade" an Ubuntu contrivance or does that come from Debian upstream?
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• 3472[18:17:22] <Manis> Hi. I have a .bin file that contains an image of an external drive (GPT + partitions). Is there a way to mount a partition without dd'ing the .bin onto a physical device?
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• 3476[18:19:29] <grawity> losetup --partscan
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• 3480[18:20:50] <Manis> grawity, Oh, cool. I didn't know a loop device can be partitioned
• 3481[18:21:09] <Manis> grawity, How can I find out which loop devices have been used already?
• 3482[18:21:24] <grawity> you don't need to care, just use --find and it'll allocate a new one
• 3483[18:21:30] <grawity> but, just `losetup` will show all active devices
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• 3485[18:21:57] <Manis> grawity, Cool. Thanks
• 3486[18:22:00] <grawity> I think it changed from "static loop0..7" to dynamic allocation in 2014
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• 3494[18:23:01] <Manis> grawity, But I still have /dev/loopX even if they're dynamic?
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• 3496[18:23:11] <grawity> yes
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• 3502[18:23:26] <grawity> well, I think some of them are created statically for "compatibility reasons"
• 3503[18:23:39] <grawity> i.e. to make old programs work, which use the old method of assigning loop devices
• 3504[18:23:56] <grawity> and, of course, the dynamically assigned ones are still called loopX
• 3505[18:24:03] <grawity> that part didn't change
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• 3509[18:24:22] <Manis> grawity, OK. Makes sense
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• 3524[18:32:14] <tharkun> I have this desktop that whenever iceweasel is runned it nukes the the computer. Screen goes haywire and everything gets fubar. How can I debug this isue. So far I installed a different browser and got rid of iceweasel but that is not what I was especting
• 3525[18:32:36] <John> peterrooney
• 3526[18:32:36] <John> peterrooney
• 3527[18:32:36] <John> peterrooney
• 3528[18:32:37] <John> peterrooney - Neo4j isnt some unknown software though - its the leading graph database
• 3529[18:32:37] *** John was kicked by debhelper (flood. Please use replaced-url
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• 3533[18:33:37] <John> Whoops - sorry about that, I copied your name with a trailing newline, and I couldnt figure out why it wasn't pasting -_-
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• 3536[18:33:57] <frank1e> cygnusx1, ýou there bud? :) It's done :) Just need to unmount now and mount the other hdd
• 3537[18:34:04] <John> Yeah anywhoo - im just trying to run Neo4j, i dont think that qualifies as frankendebian
• 3538[18:34:33] <John> Im also getting this: W: Failed to fetch replaced-url
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• 3540[18:34:48] <r6ku> !ubuntu
• 3541[18:34:48] <dpkg> Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
• 3542[18:34:51] <John> Ah, heheh, he wasn't even in the room -_-
• 3543[18:34:52] <markybob> John: we don't support ubuntu
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• 3545[18:35:01] <John> Oh shiiii--
• 3546[18:35:07] <John> Sorry, i forgot my servers are ubuntu
• 3547[18:35:23] <John> My head is a mess today, sorry for wasting everyone's time
• 3548[18:35:24] <markybob> John: you didn't read the error message before asking for help?
• 3549[18:35:52] <John> yeah, i just pasted it too
• 3550[18:36:09] <jim> ok, I got the bridge again... now I'm trying to get kvm working
• 3551[18:36:20] <John> But it didn't click in my head that im in #Debian (where i always go, because all my servers are Debian...except this one)
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• 3556[18:37:15] <tharkun> John: note taken, now go bark the right tree ;P
• 3557[18:37:22] <John> :P
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• 3559[18:37:43] <jmcnaught> jim: hey, sounds like you made some progress. what's KVM doing or not doing?
• 3560[18:37:58] <jim> umm :)
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• 3564[18:39:16] <jim> first my goal... is to make a debian jessie amd64 (userland) guest
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• 3566[18:39:44] <jim> jmcnaught, btw, hi again
• 3567[18:40:01] <jim> thanks for the help before and since
• 3568[18:40:11] <jmcnaught> jim: are you using libvirt and virt-manager?
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• 3570[18:40:36] <jim> I think I have libvirt installed
• 3571[18:41:27] <jmcnaught> jim: do you get an error with "virsh -c qemu:///system" ?
• 3572[18:41:29] <jim> I -think- it can't insert one of the modules, I can't exactly tell... how can I find out what its current status is?
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• 3576[18:42:01] <jmcnaught> jim: you can also check if the module is loaded with "lsmod | grep kvm"
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• 3580[18:43:19] <jim> I know kvm is loaded (also, the virsh -c qemu:///system thing gave no errors, I'm in that shell)... I expected it to also load kvm-intel
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• 3582[18:44:47] <jim> I dunno for sure if that[s what's supposed to happen, I just became aware of it, that it's a module
• 3583[18:45:32] <jim> just verified, kvm is loaded
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• 3585[18:45:44] <jmcnaught> oh right. kvm_intel is loaded here on my system. do you get an error if you modprobe it?
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• 3587[18:46:18] <grawity> just to make sure, what does `lscpu` say about virtualization
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• 3589[18:47:31] <jmcnaught> i think last night jim checked his cpuinfo flags for vmx and it was present
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• 3591[18:48:22] <jim> yes I did, and yes the modprobe of kvm-intel gives an error: modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'kvm_intel': Operation not supported
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• 3594[18:49:15] <jmcnaught> jim: any clues in "dmesg | grep kvm"? maybe a message about being disabled in bios?
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• 3597[18:49:47] <frank1e> mh. cygnusx1 seems to be away. gonna sit it out and wait until he's getting back =)
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• 3600[18:50:06] <jim> jmcnaught, [ 12.364322] kvm: disabled by bios
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• 3602[18:50:25] <jim> from dmesg
• 3603[18:51:04] <jim> do I need to go into the bios settings?\
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• 3606[18:52:21] <jmcnaught> jim: aha! i was under the false impression that vmx would be absent from CPU flags if it were disabled in the bios. yes, you need to enable it in your bios, it will probably be in an "advanced" menu. hopefully it is an option, i think some manufacturers remove it
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• 3614[18:53:24] <jim> the bios (I guess) is on an asus z97k motherboard (with an i5-4590 cpu)
• 3615[18:53:48] <jim> ok, I'll look around the bios
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• 3617[18:54:00] <jim> back in a bit :) thanks btw.
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• 3623[18:57:56] <frank1e> mh. wondering why my cpu is still going mad.
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• 3625[18:58:53] <jmcnaught> frank1e: "top" still tell you. captial P inside top to sort by CPU usage
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• 3629[18:59:45] <frank1e> my main problem is something else jmcnaught :D which is why i'm waiting for someone here to finish it with me
• 3630[19:00:08] <frank1e> mounting something and formatting a drive to ntfs etc
• 3631[19:00:14] <frank1e> basic stuff....
• 3632[19:00:16] * frank1e ducks
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• 3636[19:01:20] <jmcnaught> frank1e: gotcha. you're always welcome to address the channel in case that person won't be back for a while :)
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• 3639[19:01:50] <frank1e> jmcnaught okay, so we wiped an infected hdd last night, after I backed up some data of it to a factory new hdd.
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• 3641[19:02:15] <frank1e> now I would need to format that "bad" hdd to ntfs or something, to use it with Mac + Win with files larger than 4gb
• 3642[19:02:57] <frank1e> i currently have 2 hdds connected. he told me this:
• 3643[19:03:34] <frank1e> sdb: infected HDD (sdb2)
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• 3645[19:03:41] <frank1e> sda: factory new backup HDD (sda1)
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• 3648[19:05:05] <a_man> lol joze
• 3649[19:05:13] <a_man> John* who already left
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• 3651[19:05:22] <jmcnaught> frank1e: there is a "mkntfs" command. i just checked its man page ("man mkntfs") and there are some known issues you might want to read. if you have a windows system it might be better to format the drive using windows.
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• 3653[19:06:17] <jmcnaught> frank1e: also the "lsblk" command can be useful in determining which disk is which. another method is plugging/unplugging and reading the new messages from "dmesg"
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• 3655[19:07:18] <frank1e> jmcnaught, we used GParted for that with the GUI. but i forgot how we did it to be honest. first step was what i forgot
• 3656[19:07:38] <frank1e> i now need to:
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• 3658[19:07:52] <jim> back. virtualization is enabled, and now modules kvm and kvm_intel are loaded
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• 3660[19:08:26] <frank1e> 1) format the win boot hdd to ntfs, then unmount it, shutdown, plugin another hdd, make a full backup of that via the file browser after i managed to mount that and i'm done :)
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• 3662[19:09:09] <jmcnaught> frank1e: is windows going to be installed to the drive that you plan on formatting NTFS?
• 3663[19:09:11] <frank1e> sideinfo: 1 HDD previously got infected by some real nasty ransomware.
• 3664[19:09:22] <frank1e> jmcnaught yes
• 3665[19:09:35] <frank1e> ntfs should be good for files +4gb right?
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• 3667[19:09:55] <jmcnaught> frank1e: the windows install should take care of formatting its own drive for NTFS, no need to preformat it from linux
• 3668[19:09:56] <dontknow> frank1e, right
• 3669[19:10:01] <jim> jmcnaught, oh I'll just repeat... so, I'm back, virtual is enabled in bios, and now kvm and kvm_intel modules are both loaded
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• 3671[19:10:08] <frank1e> jmcnaught, oh okay awesome!
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• 3675[19:10:30] <frank1e> so now how do i correctly unmount that windows drive
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• 3678[19:10:46] <frank1e> i'm on debian 8 btw
• 3679[19:11:06] <jmcnaught> jim: sweet! are you going to try virt-manager to make a new guest? by default libvirt likes to keep its guest images in /var/lib/libvirt/images, but you can add new storage areas
• 3680[19:11:42] <jmcnaught> frank1e: in general it's "umount /mount/point" where /mount/point is the directory that the filesystem is mounted to
• 3681[19:11:42] <cygnusx1> frank1e
• 3682[19:11:46] <cygnusx1> you here?
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• 3684[19:11:58] <cygnusx1> i was asleep
• 3685[19:12:01] <jim> I was thinking of making some lvm vols for a guest I'd create in virt-manager
• 3686[19:12:08] <cygnusx1> umount /mnt
• 3687[19:12:15] <frank1e> cygnusx1 oh he's back! hope my highlight didn't wake you up lol
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• 3692[19:12:36] <jmcnaught> jim: good thinking. i have an LVM volume group for libvirt guests
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• 3695[19:13:10] <cygnusx1> oops
• 3696[19:13:14] <cygnusx1> frank1e
• 3697[19:13:17] <frank1e> yes
• 3698[19:13:18] <cygnusx1> you do this
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• 3700[19:13:27] <cygnusx1> umount /sdb
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• 3702[19:13:40] <frank1e> to unmount the wiped hdd, okay 1 sec
• 3703[19:13:43] <cygnusx1> yes
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• 3705[19:13:55] <jmcnaught> jim: in virt-manager that bar that says "localhost (QEMU)" is a connection, you can double click it to change storage, network etc options
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• 3707[19:14:05] <frank1e> bash: unmount: command not found
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• 3709[19:14:13] <cygnusx1> its umount
• 3710[19:14:14] <frank1e> :D
• 3711[19:14:17] <cygnusx1> not unmount
• 3712[19:14:17] <frank1e> oopsie
• 3713[19:14:27] <cygnusx1> lol
• 3714[19:14:43] <frank1e> umount: /sdb: mountpoint not found
• 3715[19:14:59] <cygnusx1> umount /mnt
• 3716[19:15:10] <cygnusx1> sorry just woke up
• 3717[19:15:25] <frank1e> ok :>
• 3718[19:15:29] <jim> hmm... I have a backup on sdb, and just under 1600gb unpartitioned there...
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• 3720[19:15:52] <frank1e> cygnusx1, umount: /mnt: not mounted
• 3721[19:16:04] <cygnusx1> where did we mount it lol
• 3722[19:16:06] <cygnusx1> i forget
• 3723[19:16:07] <frank1e> hold on need to grab some coffee
• 3724[19:16:08] <frank1e> no idea
• 3725[19:16:10] <frank1e> lol
• 3726[19:16:10] <cygnusx1> kk
• 3727[19:16:19] <cygnusx1> just type mount
• 3728[19:16:32] <cygnusx1> it will show mounted disks
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• 3732[19:18:04] <cygnusx1> umount /sdb1
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• 3734[19:18:18] <cygnusx1> frankle umount /dev/sdb1
• 3735[19:18:24] <cygnusx1> i remember now
• 3736[19:18:28] <grawity> findmnt!
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• 3738[19:18:54] <cygnusx1> is that a command grawity?
• 3739[19:19:09] <cygnusx1> i know mount will show all mounted drives...
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• 3743[19:22:18] <dontknow> anyone here plays micropolis?
• 3744[19:22:39] <frank1e> cygnusx1, ok will do now
• 3745[19:22:41] <frank1e> sidenote:
• 3746[19:22:45] <frank1e> you told me that
• 3747[19:22:51] <cygnusx1> frankle umount /dev/sdb1
• 3748[19:22:53] <dontknow> resident, commercial and industry need is waving
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• 3750[19:23:09] <frank1e> sdb: infected HDD and then wiped (sdb2)
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• 3752[19:23:29] <frank1e> sda: factory new backup HDD (sda1) <- should stay mounted
• 3753[19:23:35] <cygnusx1> yes
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• 3755[19:23:49] <cygnusx1> and its /dev/sdb1 not sdb2
• 3756[19:24:03] <cygnusx1> isnt it?
• 3757[19:24:06] <cygnusx1> no
• 3758[19:24:08] <cygnusx1> your right
• 3759[19:24:12] <frank1e> undmount command not found
• 3760[19:24:15] <frank1e> *unmount
• 3761[19:24:21] <frank1e> oops
• 3762[19:24:22] <frank1e> sry
• 3763[19:24:22] <cygnusx1> umount
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• 3765[19:24:31] <cygnusx1> umount /dev/sdb2
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• 3767[19:24:49] <frank1e> uh ok
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• 3770[19:25:00] <frank1e> done
• 3771[19:25:05] <frank1e> now the hdd icon is grey in file window
• 3772[19:25:05] <cygnusx1> iirc sdb1 is the windows system partition
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• 3774[19:25:16] <frank1e> win partition?
• 3775[19:25:21] <frank1e> shouldn't there be nothing left on it
• 3776[19:25:26] <cygnusx1> it was
• 3777[19:25:27] <frank1e> with all partitions gone etc
• 3778[19:25:30] <cygnusx1> its zeroed now
• 3779[19:25:33] <frank1e> okok
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• 3782[19:26:07] <frank1e> so
• 3783[19:26:13] <frank1e> now i can unplug it i guess :)
• 3784[19:26:26] <cygnusx1> so you need to make a partition table on it
• 3785[19:26:32] <cygnusx1> if you want to use it
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• 3787[19:26:43] <frank1e> oh okay i could have done that too with the win installer i thought
• 3788[19:26:50] <cygnusx1> oh
• 3789[19:26:50] <frank1e> (someone told me earlier here)
• 3790[19:26:52] <cygnusx1> yea
• 3791[19:26:55] <cygnusx1> you can
• 3792[19:26:57] <frank1e> ok
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• 3794[19:27:03] <frank1e> unplugged
• 3795[19:27:09] <cygnusx1> didnt know what u planned to do with it
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• 3797[19:27:34] <cygnusx1> if you are installing windows there the windows install disk will handle the partitioning
• 3798[19:27:35] <frank1e> pluggin in the hdd now i need to mirror
• 3799[19:27:39] <frank1e> yup
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• 3802[19:28:25] <cygnusx1> what is this mirroring you keep mentioning? how do you do this?
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• 3804[19:29:09] <frank1e> uh no idea
• 3805[19:29:13] <cygnusx1> lol
• 3806[19:29:15] <cygnusx1> me either
• 3807[19:29:27] <frank1e> i just uhm.. i guess i gotta manually just copy all folders+files to the backup hdd
• 3808[19:29:41] <cygnusx1> you can make an exact copy of another drive
• 3809[19:29:42] <frank1e> gotta keep all there is on this hdd
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• 3811[19:29:57] <frank1e> but using the same backup drive for it like i used before
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• 3813[19:30:17] <cygnusx1> ah
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• 3815[19:30:31] <cygnusx1> well sounds like you know what your doing then ;)
• 3816[19:30:32] <frank1e> showed already up in file browser
• 3817[19:30:34] <jim> back in a sec, just partitioned.
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• 3819[19:30:48] <frank1e> nothing to do in terminal i guess for this one cygnusx1
• 3820[19:30:52] <cygnusx1> naw
• 3821[19:31:02] <frank1e> but
• 3822[19:31:17] <frank1e> where can i see how much space is used on the new plugged in hdd?
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• 3825[19:31:26] <cygnusx1> gparted
• 3826[19:31:29] <frank1e> god this is embarassing :D
• 3827[19:31:29] <cygnusx1> will show you
• 3828[19:31:34] <frank1e> sadly no
• 3829[19:31:41] <frank1e> it doesn't list this drive
• 3830[19:31:41] <cygnusx1> fdisk
• 3831[19:31:57] <cygnusx1> you need to click gparted then devices
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• 3833[19:32:02] <cygnusx1> and go to sdb
• 3834[19:32:09] <cygnusx1> it will
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• 3836[19:32:15] <cygnusx1> i use gparted daily
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• 3838[19:32:43] <frank1e> cygnusx1 drives menu only offers "create table" or "attempt data rescue"
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• 3842[19:32:51] <cygnusx1> not drives menu
• 3843[19:32:58] <cygnusx1> click gparted in upper left
• 3844[19:33:03] <cygnusx1> then click devices
• 3845[19:33:14] <cygnusx1> not device in the middle of the bar
• 3846[19:33:23] <frank1e> oh yes
• 3847[19:33:26] <frank1e> fuck
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• 3850[19:33:35] <frank1e> i need to plug in the other factory new hdd
• 3851[19:33:40] <cygnusx1> kk
• 3852[19:33:42] <frank1e> it's too big :|
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• 3855[19:33:52] <cygnusx1> wont fit in your case?
• 3856[19:33:53] <frank1e> sooo shutdown... hold on lol
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• 3858[19:34:10] <frank1e> i only have 1 external hdd usb case
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• 3860[19:34:15] <cygnusx1> ah
• 3861[19:34:18] <frank1e> the other one has to be plugged in internally
• 3862[19:34:24] <cygnusx1> ok do it
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• 3891[19:47:22] <frank1e> cygnusx1 5 min :)
• 3892[19:47:45] <cygnusx1> ye
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• 3912[19:52:12] <emacs-dwim> Where do the /usr/doc/HOWTO/ documents live? Google is useless -- it only privide online HOWTOs. i see some doc-linux-* packages in French, Croatian, Japanese, and Polish -- but alas, those are four of the languages i /don't/ know...
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• 3914[19:52:56] <frank1e> cygnusx1, so live-cd -> rebooted now -> install gparted again
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• 3917[19:53:26] <frank1e> so i can get the 2nd factory new hdd to ntfs too
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• 3919[19:55:16] <contrapunctus> o/
• 3920[19:55:17] <cygnusx1> yes
• 3921[19:55:23] <cygnusx1> frank1e
• 3922[19:55:33] <cygnusx1> didnt we move some files to the new drive?
• 3923[19:55:37] <frank1e> how'd i do that again lol
• 3924[19:55:42] <frank1e> no
• 3925[19:55:55] <frank1e> yesterday we moved stuff to the 1st factory new one
• 3926[19:56:03] <cygnusx1> you have 2?
• 3927[19:56:06] <cygnusx1> new drives
• 3928[19:56:18] <frank1e> now that i need more space for backing up another old hdd, i plugged in a 2nd factory new hdd
• 3929[19:56:23] <cygnusx1> ok ok
• 3930[19:56:25] <cygnusx1> gotcha
• 3931[19:56:28] <frank1e> #hddsweg
• 3932[19:56:28] <frank1e> :D
• 3933[19:56:34] <cygnusx1> lol
• 3934[19:56:36] <cygnusx1> ye ye
• 3935[19:56:47] <cygnusx1> ok so yea install gparted again
• 3936[19:56:56] <frank1e> yeah how
• 3937[19:56:57] <frank1e> lol
• 3938[19:56:59] <frank1e> forgot
• 3939[19:57:03] <cygnusx1> apt-get install gparted
• 3940[19:57:09] <frank1e> oh ok
• 3941[19:57:16] <cygnusx1> prefix with sudo if you arent root
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• 3943[19:57:27] <cygnusx1> or sudo su and become root first
• 3944[19:57:48] <emacs-dwim> (sid 4.4.4-2 (2016-03-09))
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• 3946[19:58:10] <frank1e> ay
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• 3949[19:58:27] <contrapunctus> I have a Debian Stable notebook in which X does not start. /var/log/Xorg.0.log - replaced-url
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• 3951[19:59:10] <markybob> emacs-dwim: sid support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic
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• 3954[19:59:29] <cygnusx1> contrapunctus, you do not have X configured at all
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• 3956[19:59:53] <contrapunctus> cygnusx1: dpkg-reconfigure ?
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• 3959[20:00:28] <frank1e> cygnusx1 done
• 3960[20:00:34] <contrapunctus> cygnusx1: what do I do?
• 3961[20:00:43] <cygnusx1> yes contrapunctus
• 3962[20:00:52] <cygnusx1> dpkg-reconfigure
• 3963[20:01:01] <frank1e> gotta find out which one is the backup hdd and which one the used old hdd
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• 3969[20:01:52] <frank1e> GParted -> Devices only lists 1 drive
• 3970[20:02:12] <frank1e> oh... oops
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• 3972[20:02:42] <cygnusx1> frank1e you can use the command fdisk -l too see drives and their size and filesystem
• 3973[20:02:52] <jim> jmcnaught, hi, got a vg, a 10g partition for /boot and 2 200g PVs for the kvm guest... what's the easiest thing to do? run the netinstall?
• 3974[20:03:03] <jim> (if you're still around that is)
• 3975[20:03:14] <frank1e> cygnusx1 already found it via gparted.
• 3976[20:03:20] <cygnusx1> sweet!
• 3977[20:03:22] <frank1e> power cable on usb drive wasnt plugged in lol
• 3978[20:03:28] <jmcnaught> contrapunctus: did X used to work before? what is the linux-gate.so.1 mentioned on line 348 of your Xorg.0.log paste?
• 3979[20:03:30] <cygnusx1> hehe
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• 3981[20:03:39] <frank1e> it won't let me create a new partition on the new hdd. says "no partition table"
• 3982[20:03:51] <cygnusx1> jmcnaught his xorg has nothing configured
• 3983[20:04:01] <cygnusx1> frank1e click device
• 3984[20:04:07] <cygnusx1> then create partition table
• 3985[20:04:14] <cygnusx1> select msdos as the type
• 3986[20:04:15] <jim> how big is it? maybe put a gpt partition tableon it?
• 3987[20:04:24] <cygnusx1> he wants windows
• 3988[20:04:26] <frank1e> I did
• 3989[20:04:27] <cygnusx1> so msdos
• 3990[20:04:29] <jmcnaught> jim: yes i would just do a netinstall as if it were a normal computer. you can use virt-manager or there's also a virt-install command that will launch a graphical console
• 3991[20:04:32] <jim> oh ok.., never mind :)
• 3992[20:04:48] <cygnusx1> lol
• 3993[20:04:52] <frank1e> cygnusx1, I did but before I can chose msdos it says "No partition table found on device /dev/sda"
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• 3995[20:04:58] <jmcnaught> cygnusx1: xorg usually doesn't need to be configured
• 3996[20:05:04] <cygnusx1> thats fine frank1e
• 3997[20:05:18] <cygnusx1> it doesnt have a partition table cause its brand spankin new
• 3998[20:05:19] <contrapunctus> cygnusx1: the relevant package is xserver-xorg, I take it?
• 3999[20:05:19] <contrapunctus> jmcnaught: it did. I just removed KDE from a system with KDE and XFCE on it before the problem appeared. And heck if I know :\
• 4000[20:05:27] <frank1e> btw: this one needs to be used for a mac and a win pc
• 4001[20:05:30] <cygnusx1> yes contrapunctus
• 4002[20:05:38] <frank1e> cygnusx1 yup
• 4003[20:05:51] <contrapunctus> okay, did the needful, restarting, fingers crossed.
• 4004[20:05:51] <jim> jmcnaught, ok... so I would download the netinstall image, and... ummm...
• 4005[20:05:56] <jmcnaught> contrapunctus: does "dpkg -S linux-gate" tell you the package it came from?
• 4006[20:06:03] <cygnusx1> jmcnaught will probably be better able to help you contrapunctus because this isnt really my field of expertise
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• 4009[20:06:18] <jim> I dunno :) I don't have a usb stick :)
• 4010[20:06:25] <contrapunctus> cygnusx1: okay-o, thanks
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• 4012[20:06:35] <cygnusx1> you're welcome :)
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• 4014[20:07:00] <jmcnaught> jim: in virt-manager you can do "file > new virtual machine". it will let you select an ISO (i usually put those in /var/lib/libvirt/images)
• 4015[20:07:16] <frank1e> cygnusx1, oh saw my mistake now. knew what you meant, but still clicked the wrong thing
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• 4018[20:07:47] <jim> jmcnaught, so, download it to that location?
• 4019[20:07:50] <frank1e> cygnusx1, now i chose ntfs right
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• 4021[20:07:57] <contrapunctus> jmcnaught: "dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *linux-gate*"
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• 4023[20:08:06] <cygnusx1> yes frank1e
• 4024[20:08:17] <jmcnaught> jim: or download it as a regular user, and move it to that dir as root
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• 4026[20:08:36] <jim> ok
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• 4028[20:08:41] <Xtopherus> you in here tone?
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• 4030[20:08:53] <grawity> linux-gate / linux-vdso is not a file in any package and has never been a real file anywhere at all
• 4031[20:08:54] <jim> I'll run wget as root
• 4032[20:08:56] <frank1e> cygnusx1, ok done
• 4033[20:09:06] <grawity> it's a virtual library provided by the kernel itself
• 4034[20:09:08] <jmcnaught> contrapunctus: does "locate linux-gate.so.1" telly ou anything?
• 4035[20:09:09] <jim> Xtopherus, chris waters?
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• 4037[20:09:23] <Xtopherus> no sir,
• 4038[20:09:24] <contrapunctus> jmcnaught: nothing
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• 4040[20:09:27] <cygnusx1> ok now you should good to go frank1e
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• 4042[20:09:35] <jmcnaught> oh... see what grawity said about it ^
• 4043[20:09:37] <frank1e> cygnusx1, now we would need to mount the factory new hdd, so i can see it in file browser window
• 4044[20:09:42] <jim> oh, wrong person sorry
• 4045[20:09:46] <frank1e> cygnusx1, it's not displayed there yet sadly
• 4046[20:09:50] <Xtopherus> no worries at all mate
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• 4049[20:10:42] <grawity> (see `man vdso`)
• 4050[20:10:46] <contrapunctus> jmcnaught , grawity - so what does one do in this case? :\
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• 4053[20:11:12] <cygnusx1> frank1e its not displayed in file browser?
• 4054[20:11:16] <frank1e> cygnusx1, it's called "/dev/sda" in gparted btw
• 4055[20:11:19] <frank1e> cygnusx1, yep
• 4056[20:11:24] <cygnusx1> did you apply changes?
• 4057[20:11:26] <frank1e> it's not shown
• 4058[20:11:32] <TomTomTosch> contrapunctus, why are you on the backports kernel anyway?
• 4059[20:11:33] <frank1e> oh......
• 4060[20:11:34] <cygnusx1> you need to click apply changes
• 4061[20:11:35] * frank1e cough
• 4062[20:11:39] <cygnusx1> LOL
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• 4064[20:11:59] <grawity> contrapunctus: how are you starting X in this case
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• 4067[20:12:14] <grawity> I mean, the crash is undesired, but
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• 4069[20:12:27] <grawity> Xorg itself seems to be in the process of shutting down when it crashes
• 4070[20:12:29] <frank1e> cygnusx1 always making the same mistake as yesterday lol
• 4071[20:12:34] <contrapunctus> TomTomTosch: ???
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• 4073[20:12:40] <grawity> so maybe it shuts down because your .xinitrc or something is empty
• 4074[20:12:43] <cygnusx1> hehe
• 4075[20:12:57] <contrapunctus> grawity: How do I check? o.o
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• 4077[20:13:15] <grawity> by answering "how do you start X"
• 4078[20:13:21] <grawity> kdm? sddm? startx? gdm?
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• 4083[20:14:38] <frank1e> cygnusx1, alright I think we are done here! It's copying! This is gonna take at least a day lol
• 4084[20:14:52] <frank1e> Thank you a LOT
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• 4086[20:15:53] <cygnusx1> you're welcome frank1e
• 4087[20:15:59] <cygnusx1> glad i could help bro
• 4088[20:16:13] <contrapunctus> grawity: I'm afraid I do not know :\
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• 4093[20:17:10] <frank1e> cygnusx1 good help! I'm so glad my most important files are still there. Talk about huge luck
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• 4098[20:18:18] <cygnusx1> well not everyone gets as lucky as you frank1e, very smart way that you handled the situation my friend
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• 4102[20:18:51] <christopher_> hey guys
• 4103[20:18:57] <christopher_> its nicole
• 4104[20:18:58] <frank1e> cygnusx1, ignoring all this weird stuff happening could have ended way worse lol damn ransomware
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• 4106[20:19:09] <christopher_> lg
• 4107[20:19:15] <christopher_> (!)
• 4108[20:19:19] <christopher_> (!)Error
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• 4112[20:19:53] <cygnusx1> yes you caught in time
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• 4115[20:20:29] <frank1e> partytime
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• 4117[20:20:36] <cygnusx1> kek
• 4118[20:20:39] <jim> the image is downloading... just a few mins
• 4119[20:20:48] <TomTomTosch> contrapunctus, you have to know if you type startx or if you boot into a fancy screen :P
• 4120[20:20:58] <frank1e> i'm creeping away in the night now, have a good one! o/
• 4121[20:21:37] <TomTomTosch> contrapunctus,if not startx then 'cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager' will tell more.
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• 4123[20:21:53] <contrapunctus> TomTomTosch: the latter
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• 4125[20:22:42] <contrapunctus> TomTomTosch: /usr/bin/kdm ...which AFAIK I just uninstalled o_o
• 4126[20:22:43] <contrapunctus> wat
• 4127[20:23:24] <TomTomTosch> contrapunctus, kdm is not kde.
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• 4129[20:23:43] <contrapunctus> but it's part of it, yeah?
• 4130[20:24:22] <TomTomTosch> yes
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• 4134[20:24:54] <jim> kdm is the part of kde that lets you login, and then fires up the rest of kde for your session
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• 4137[20:25:27] <cygnusx1> kdm is the session manager
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• 4149[20:29:22] <contrapunctus> welp
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• 4152[20:30:00] <TomTomTosch> so what happens when you startx?
• 4153[20:30:13] <contrapunctus> Seems like I accidentally removed kdm with kde, apparently leaving the system without a DM. installed KDM again, all's fine.
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• 4155[20:30:36] <TomTomTosch> contrapunctus, you can check with dpkg -l kdm
• 4156[20:30:47] <Xtopherus> you start the x server?
• 4157[20:30:48] <Xtopherus> lol
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• 4159[20:30:49] <contrapunctus> (I can't seem to find which DM XFCE uses by default or I would've installed that)
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• 4162[20:31:02] <contrapunctus> Xtopherus: yes :)
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• 4164[20:31:10] <Xtopherus> lol xD
• 4165[20:31:14] <contrapunctus> thanks for your time and patience, everyone. sorry for the failwhale.
• 4166[20:31:19] <TomTomTosch> Xtopherus, thx for the info. was wondering for years.
• 4167[20:31:22] <boubou> [15:24:07] <boubou> hey girls
• 4168[20:31:23] <boubou> [15:24:21] <boubou> I installed debian on a core2duo laptop
• 4169[20:31:23] <boubou> [15:24:43] <boubou> when I close the laptop cover, the laptop goes to sleep
• 4170[20:31:23] <boubou> [15:24:57] <boubou> is it bios related or os related ?
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• 4174[20:31:36] <Xtopherus> its for the graphical environment
• 4175[20:31:43] <boubou> sry
• 4176[20:31:45] <boubou> :(
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• 4180[20:31:52] <Xtopherus> most people with servers will not startx rather setup their box in run level 3
• 4181[20:32:12] <TomTomTosch> contrapunctus, so, did you check?
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• 4185[20:33:45] * TomTomTosch wishes this channel wasn't so spammy today.
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• 4189[20:34:15] <lbex> #flood hi
• 4190[20:34:24] <lbex> d
• 4191[20:34:26] <lbex> d
• 4192[20:34:28] <lbex> i
• 4193[20:34:30] <lbex> t
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• 4195[20:34:32] <lbex> o
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• 4198[20:34:57] <contrapunctus> TomTomTosch: I ran 'startx' earlier, and it started XFCE just fine.
• 4199[20:35:09] <Xtopherus> mmm spammy
• 4200[20:35:11] <Xtopherus> brb
• 4201[20:35:13] <Xtopherus> smoke
• 4202[20:35:53] <boubou> found
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• 4206[20:38:33] <jamesawagner3> I have a serial console running off of the systemd serial-getty service, and I want to change to change the baud-rate and terminal type. These are passed as straight arguments to the ExecStart line of the service. Is there a better place to edit these settings or should I just start editing the service file directly? Will the next systemd upgrade gobble my changes?
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• 4217[20:42:56] <grawity> not if you follow the documentation on editing systemd unit files
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• 4219[20:43:35] <grawity> see systemd.unit(5), "Unit file load path", or mentions of 'override' and 'drop-in'
• 4220[20:43:56] <grawity> well in short `cp /lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service /etc/systemd/system/serial-getty@ttyS0.service`
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• 4223[20:44:51] <jamesawagner3> Got it. Thanks grawity.
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• 4226[20:46:30] <tjcarter> *sigh* systemd
• 4227[20:46:32] <TomTomTosch> don't want to nit-pick, but is there a reason you want to change the baud? ;D
• 4228[20:46:34] <tjcarter> The bane of my existence.
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• 4230[20:47:13] <TomTomTosch> connection too slow? :P
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• 4232[20:48:01] <jamesawagner3> Yeah. Both of the machines 15550A UARTs, and will do 115200. My environment is not noisy enough to justify anything less than half of that. It connects fine, but falls back immediately to 96008N1, which is painful.
• 4233[20:48:39] <jamesawagner3> I want to set the term type, because I like colours, all the boxes that will talk to this console are either a Linux ttys or some variety of xterm.
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• 4235[20:48:58] <jhutchins> Has anyone remarked on the problems with iceweasel in the repos today?
• 4236[20:49:29] <jamesawagner3> I could almost deal with 96008N1, but just running dmesg is a 2 minute process once my uptime gets above 10 minutes.
• 4237[20:49:47] * TomTomTosch is wondering why anyone still uses serial
• 4238[20:50:07] <grawity> well it's useful for a remote console
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• 4241[20:51:47] <tharkun> I have this desktop that whenever iceweasel is runned it nukes the the computer. Screen goes haywire and everything gets fubar. How can I debug this isue. So far I installed a different browser and got rid of iceweasel but that is not what I was especting
• 4242[20:51:53] <jamesawagner3> I have some radio modems that use it, kgdb uses it, and I have extra machines that I can just leave plugged into the big mama. SSH is faster, but isn't always needed. I don't need SSH to go 3 feet into a what would be a screen instance anyway.
• 4243[20:52:07] <jhutchins> Xtopherus: Runlevels are all the same in Debian (except halt & reboot).
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• 4245[20:52:42] <jamesawagner3> tharkun: Just iceweasel? Does it happen on flash pages?
• 4246[20:52:42] <Tzic> TomTomTosch: necessary evil for networking
• 4247[20:52:49] <TomTomTosch> heh, fair enough x)
• 4248[20:53:16] <Tzic> tho the generic usb adapters work fairly well
• 4249[20:53:30] <jamesawagner3> If by haywire, you mean like a GPU-freeze or an X crash, that pretty can only happen with hardware acceleration.
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• 4251[20:53:40] <bmoriarty> what's a good channel for more technical discussions, e.g internal workings of the kernel? I don't mean a channel where people discuss ongoing work on the kernel, but more like just conceptual questions relying the linux kernel architecture?
• 4252[20:54:15] * jamesawagner3 waits for vesafb to find a way to violent barf on modern hardware
• 4253[20:54:34] <Tzic> ##linux is a bit of a catchall, but it's as good a place as any to start
• 4254[20:54:46] <jhutchins> bmoriarty: Not sure there really is one, there's #linux
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• 4256[20:55:06] <bmoriarty> Tzic: jhutchins thanks!
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• 4260[20:55:41] <jhutchins> tharkun: Desktop, kernel, graphics, release, version of iceweasel?
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• 4262[20:56:35] <jhutchins> bmoriarty: The kernel.org mailing lists might be some help, leafing through the archives.
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• 4264[20:57:14] <julius> whats wrong with this command? apt-get install -t jessie-backports firmware-misc-nonfree says that it cant find the package. but i already installed packages from backports?
• 4265[20:57:55] <bmoriarty> jhutchins: pretty intimidating, I wouldn't want to waste kernel devs time with noob questions
• 4266[20:58:46] <hexnewbie> julius: Perhaps you didn't add jessie-backports non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list? Maybe you only added main (and perhaps contrib)?
• 4267[20:59:02] <jhutchins> bmoriarty: Hence perusing the archives.
• 4268[20:59:07] <julius> i already installed firmware-linux-nonfree
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• 4270[20:59:17] <bmoriarty> oh you mean just searching through, yeah
• 4271[20:59:19] <julius> but im gonna check again
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• 4274[21:00:21] <julius> hexnewbie, ups..my fault. indeed "non-free" was not added
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• 4284[21:04:41] <jhutchins> Failed to fetch replaced-url
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• 4288[21:05:00] <jhutchins> mdn no longer maintained?
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• 4292[21:06:42] <TomTomTosch> jhutchins, no, but it looks like they removed iceweasel.
• 4293[21:06:56] <jim> jmcnaught, ok, the image just finished downloading
• 4294[21:07:27] <jhutchins> TomTomTosch: Changed it to firefox-release. Could have been done more smoothly.
• 4295[21:07:35] <TomTomTosch> jhutchins, if you open the mirror in a browser you can see it pointing to the debian repo.
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• 4299[21:07:58] <TomTomTosch> jhutchins, yep :D
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• 4304[21:10:16] <jhutchins> There should be some kind of pointer/provision that for full-upgrade switches from iceweasel to firefox.
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• 4346[21:29:32] <tharkun> jamesawagner3: iceweasel on a freshly installed Debian 8 and it seems it is just iceweasel as far as I could see.
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• 4348[21:30:27] <tharkun> jhutchins: XFCE Debian vanilla kernel iceweasel is the current one on stable and graphics card I do not know.
• 4349[21:30:51] <tharkun> Sorry for the delay. I'm still at $DAY_JOB
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• 4358[21:37:30] <jmcnaught> jim: cool, sounds like you've got it mostly figured out. everything virt-manager can do can also be done from the CLI using virsh and/or various virt- commands too, once you get more familiar
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• 4363[21:38:42] <jim> jmcnaught, it's running a graphical install...
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• 4365[21:39:12] <jim> what I'm not too sure of, is if I can use the vg I made
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• 4370[21:41:19] <jmcnaught> jim: in the "new virtual machine" wizard in virt-manager there is a step where (4/5) where you select storage. by default it will make an 8GB qcow2 image in /var/lib/libvirt/images, but you can select "Select managed or other existing storage"
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• 4396[21:47:39] <mykhailyk> !help
• 4397[21:47:44] <mykhailyk> !paste
• 4398[21:47:44] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: replaced-url
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• 4404[21:50:08] <jim> mykhailyk, would you like some assistance?
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• 4406[21:50:37] <mykhailyk> thank you, but i just wanted to know the paste link
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• 4408[21:51:05] <jmcnaught> mykhailyk: the topic has examples of how to query the bot privately :)
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• 4411[21:52:29] <jamesawagner3> tharkun: Is it on certain pages, or as soon as you start it? When you say that the display goes haywire, do you get striped bars, or a garbled display? Do you get a flashing scroll-lock light? Basically, did just X die, taking keyboard control with it, or did your whole kernel oops?
• 4412[21:52:31] <emacs-dwim> markybod: thanks.
• 4413[21:53:07] <emacs-dwim> #/leave
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• 4416[21:53:50] <jamesawagner3> I know that 4.3.0 and 4.2.X has a nasty GPU bug in the nouveau drivers, that went away in 4.4, but that's testing, and not the stable dist.
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• 4418[21:54:22] <jamesawagner3> In anycase, crashdump is probably your friend, and your only chance of catching output from dmesg.
• 4419[21:54:34] <emacs-dwim> Where do the /usr/doc/HOWTO/ documents live? Google is useless -- it only privide online HOWTOs. i see some doc-linux-* packages in French, Croatian, Japanese, and Polish -- but alas, those are four of the languages i /don't/ know... [sid 4.4.4-2 (2016-03-09)]
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• 4421[21:55:19] <markybob> 4.4 is sid. not testing.
• 4422[21:55:51] <jamesawagner3> packages.debian.org says stable is riding on 3.16, so I do not know off-hand if that nouveau bug (assuming it even applies in your case, i.e. this is nvidia hardware), goes back that far.
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• 4424[21:56:14] <a_man> .. vim can't just open .deb files like .tar.gz files :|
• 4425[21:56:20] <a_man> terrific
• 4426[21:56:29] <jamesawagner3> markybob: Guilty. I can't keep track anymore, because my boxes sometimes turn into frankestienain sid boxes.
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• 4428[21:58:07] <TomTomTosch> could be that what you describe does not apply to the debian kernels. some usability related patches do get backported.
• 4429[21:58:56] <jamesawagner3> Then I throw multiarch on top, and multiple versions of user applications like LibreOffice, and I wait for everything to explode, violently.
• 4430[22:00:33] <jamesawagner3> More to the point, if iceweasel is nuking his display server, I don't see how that couldn't be graphics module related. Without more information about the system, I'm just shooting at random.
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• 4434[22:02:29] <zero85> Hey Guys, want to install Debian on my new laptop, everything seems good, but the installer doesnt ask for bootloader install? Installer is ready and reboots but there is no bootloader =(
• 4435[22:03:18] <markybob> zero85: so you probably installed grub to /dev/sda1 and not mbr /dev/sda
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• 4437[22:03:38] <zero85> there was no choice of installing any bootloader
• 4438[22:03:46] <zero85> no grub no syslinux, nothing
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• 4440[22:04:14] <markybob> zero85: the installer does ask where to install grub.
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• 4443[22:04:48] <zero85> no =(
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• 4445[22:05:14] <zero85> i install debian very often on multiple machines, everytime he asked, now its the 3rd run on my laptop and he doesnt ask =(
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• 4448[22:06:40] <TomTomTosch> you can go into the expert mode and try do it manually.
• 4449[22:07:01] <emacs-dwim> >markybob: Quite right. i was sure i typed #debian-next as you had advised... my apologies.
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• 4452[22:07:20] <cygnusx1> you can also chroot / and mount a few dirs via liveboot and install grub
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• 4455[22:07:31] <cygnusx1> zero85 i can walk you through it if you want
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• 4459[22:08:41] <zero85> cygnusx1: i now started the normal install not the graphical install, maybe it'll help
• 4460[22:08:45] <cygnusx1> ok
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• 4462[22:09:03] <cygnusx1> if you have any problems we are here to help
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• 4465[22:09:30] <raspdeb2> I want to set up socks proxy that allows me to connect via wlan0 to eth0 ( both are different networks) should I use routes or iptables?
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• 4467[22:09:35] <zero85> good to know, thank you, i'll report soon =)
• 4468[22:09:49] <cygnusx1> kk
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• 4471[22:10:23] <testernb> hello
• 4472[22:10:24] <testernb> can i install debian on galaxy s2?
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• 4474[22:10:39] <cygnusx1> testernb yes
• 4475[22:10:49] <cygnusx1> is it rooted?
• 4476[22:11:14] <cygnusx1> it must be rooted and samsung is fishy as heck about getting root
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• 4478[22:12:44] <cygnusx1> but without root you can install it with GNU noroot and if you want X get the wheezy version when you install
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• 4482[22:13:24] <cygnusx1> GNU noroot is an app in the google play store
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• 4489[22:15:33] <markybob> there's "gnuroot" (not noroot) and "debian noroot"
• 4490[22:15:43] <cygnusx1> ok
• 4491[22:15:46] <cygnusx1> my mistake
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• 4493[22:16:10] <testernb> very thx cygnusx1, i start now try, if i have any question come back, thx
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• 4495[22:16:22] <testernb> :)
• 4496[22:16:26] <cygnusx1> you're welcome testernb
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• 4514[22:23:44] <zero85> cygnusx1: Install is ready, i could go back and starte the install of grub bootloader, he did something but didnt ask anything =( i want dual boot with preinstalled win10 and i have 2 HDD's installed, he has to ask me on which disk he should install grub or?!
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• 4518[22:24:23] <cygnusx1> install grub on /dev/sda
• 4519[22:24:27] <cygnusx1> the root of the drive
• 4520[22:24:31] <cygnusx1> always
• 4521[22:24:33] <zero85> i know
• 4522[22:24:41] <zero85> but he doesnt ask where to install =(
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• 4524[22:25:56] <cygnusx1> well this is a serious issue. your liveusb may be corrupt or something
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• 4526[22:26:04] <cygnusx1> we can fix it manually though
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• 4528[22:26:18] <markybob> zero85: how did you copy the image to the usb?
• 4529[22:26:33] <TomTomTosch> cygnusx1, not sure what you are talking about
• 4530[22:27:04] <zero85> unetbootin from windows, but i used this stick bevor on another machine and it works fine!
• 4531[22:27:07] <cygnusx1> i am saying something may be wrong with his liveboot disk if it isnt installing grub
• 4532[22:27:10] <markybob> !unetbootin
• 4533[22:27:11] <dpkg> UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. replaced-url
• 4534[22:27:19] <markybob> zero85: that's probably why. unetbootin breaks shit
• 4535[22:27:27] <cygnusx1> unetbootin is highly unreccomended for debian
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• 4537[22:27:32] <markybob> !tell zero85 about win32diskimager
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• 4539[22:27:51] <cygnusx1> and it looks like i was right
• 4540[22:27:54] <markybob> zero85: see what the bot just told you
• 4541[22:28:13] <zero85> i see, will give it a try =) thank u
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• 4544[22:29:56] <markybob> zero85: i'd also like to know exactly which image you're using
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• 4546[22:30:57] <zero85> debian-8.3.0-amd64-netinst
• 4547[22:31:02] <cisc0> using dd is so much better than unetbootin
• 4548[22:31:13] <cygnusx1> ^
• 4549[22:31:18] <markybob> zero85: i'm assuming desktop?
• 4550[22:31:41] <cisc0> basically yes unetbootin breaks shit
• 4551[22:31:41] <zero85> laptop
• 4552[22:31:56] <markybob> zero85: then you probably have the wrong one :P you want replaced-url
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• 4555[22:32:42] <zero85> oh ok, thank you
• 4556[22:32:45] <markybob> zero85: laptops in particular need special firmwares that arent in the normal install to work
• 4557[22:33:13] <jamesawagner3> Hah. With term=xterm, baud=115200 in serial-getty@ttyS0.service, my serial console is basically real-time. It's certainly better than ssh when the network has an aneurysm...
• 4558[22:33:15] <cygnusx1> oh nice
• 4559[22:33:16] <zero85> ok good to know!
• 4560[22:33:23] <jim> you should be able to dd that to a usb stick, or write it as an image to a cd blank
• 4561[22:33:25] <cygnusx1> i didnt know they had a firmware iso
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• 4563[22:33:38] <markybob> cygnusx1: yep. really handy
• 4564[22:33:39] <zero85> i didnt know it either ^^
• 4565[22:33:41] <cygnusx1> i always add firmware manually
• 4566[22:33:49] <zero85> me too cygnusx1 =)
• 4567[22:33:53] <cygnusx1> that a big help
• 4568[22:34:24] <jamesawagner3> I have to call stty by hand anytime I change the term size, but that rarely happens anyway.
• 4569[22:34:28] <markybob> time for a smoke break
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• 4582[22:42:06] <zero85> hm, now i used the firmware version and copied the image with win32diskimager but i couldnt make the first partition bootable, no error message, nothing
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• 4584[22:42:24] <zero85> could this be a problem with the windows install??
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• 4586[22:42:40] <zatamine> Hello
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• 4590[22:44:32] <TomTomTosch> zero85, if you installed grub to the mbr you don't need to make a partition bootable.
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• 4592[22:44:55] <AzurOne> Hello
• 4593[22:45:16] <zero85> ok, i am far away from the install grub point ^^
• 4594[22:45:47] <TomTomTosch> s/installed/install
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• 4596[22:46:07] <AzurOne> What is using of the command ./configure when I compile
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• 4602[22:47:33] <zatamine> Need help to start contribute with packaging
• 4603[22:48:07] <babilen> zatamine: Did you find replaced-url
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• 4609[22:49:17] <babilen> AzurOne: That step configured the compilation (finds/checks for libraries, system parameters, ...)
• 4610[22:49:49] <zatamine> babilen, no not yet
• 4611[22:50:33] <zatamine> babilen, I need an workflow to start ?
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• 4613[22:51:00] <babilen> zatamine: Well, you have now! :) -- That website contains a number of good pointers about contributing to Debian and provides a platform where you can upload packages for your prospective sponsors. It also contains links to further information.
• 4614[22:51:25] <babilen> I'd start by reading the "New Maintainer's Guide" (nmg)
• 4615[22:51:29] <babilen> dpkg: nmg
• 4616[22:51:29] <dpkg> The packaging tutorial (replaced-url
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• 4618[22:52:33] <babilen> (/msg dpkg package basics -- /msg dpkg mentors -- ...)
• 4619[22:53:10] <babilen> There's also #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (aka irc.oftc.net) where you can ask question related to this
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• 4621[22:53:37] <zatamine> babilen, ok i'll read all this big thank you :)
• 4622[22:53:45] <zatamine> babilen, ok i'll read all this big thanks :)
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• 4624[22:55:16] <babilen> You are welcome, have fun :)
• 4625[22:55:32] <babilen> zatamine: replaced-url
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• 4628[22:57:03] <zatamine> babilen, you want to be my sponsor ? ^^
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• 4633[22:59:30] <babilen> zatamine: Check out #debian-mentors and it is typically a good idea to get sponsoring through a team. There are various teams in Debian (cf. replaced-url
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• 4636[23:00:27] <zero85> So i used the firmwareversion of debian, used win32diskimager but i couldnt choose on which disk he has to install grub!
• 4637[23:00:51] <a_man> found sources.debian.net thx
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• 4639[23:01:00] <babilen> NOOOO, don't use that horrible site
• 4640[23:01:16] <babilen> ah, nvm
• 4641[23:01:19] <zero85> if i go back to the menu manually and start the grub install he loads grub dummy, update grub and then goes to install is ready site =(
• 4642[23:01:34] <babilen> dpkg: fixmbr
• 4643[23:01:34] <dpkg> To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>.
• 4644[23:01:41] <babilen> zero85: You could do ^^^
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• 4656[23:06:23] <zero85> grml used rescue mode, grub reinstall on /dev/sda and then break with error 1 =( couldnt install
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• 4698[23:23:01] <TomTomTosch> zero85, you did grub-install /dev/sda and that's all it said?
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• 4701[23:23:28] <tako> Why gnome isnt updated yet ?
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• 4710[23:26:55] <zero85> TomTomTosch: yes
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• 4716[23:28:41] <cygnusx1> grub-install --root-directory=/x $drive is what i use...
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• 4720[23:29:20] <TomTomTosch> zero85, you disabled secure boot?
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• 4722[23:29:36] <cygnusx1> after telling it what drive and partition to use that is
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• 4724[23:30:08] <zero85> yes
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• 4730[23:33:23] <tako> i want to use gnome 3.18
• 4731[23:33:47] <cygnusx1> apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
• 4732[23:34:07] <TomTomTosch> zero85, fdisk -l checked if sda is the correct one?
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• 4735[23:34:28] <TomTomTosch> tako, well, it's not in debian and it will never be in jessie.
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• 4737[23:35:00] <cygnusx1> cant you compile it yourself TomTomTosch?
• 4738[23:35:03] <tako> why ?
• 4739[23:35:11] <cygnusx1> or will debian not run gnome3?
• 4740[23:35:41] <TomTomTosch> you can do whatever you feel like, but it's not in debian yet.
• 4741[23:36:12] <TomTomTosch> tako, debian gets no new features after release.
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• 4743[23:36:30] <cygnusx1> debian testing has gnome 3.18
• 4744[23:36:35] <cygnusx1> i just checked
• 4745[23:36:58] <TomTomTosch> ,v gnome
• 4746[23:36:59] <judd> Package: gnome on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:2.30+7; wheezy: 1:3.4+7+deb7u1; jessie: 1:3.14+3; stretch: 1:3.14+3; sid: 1:3.14+4
• 4747[23:37:15] <TomTomTosch> close.
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• 4749[23:37:35] <cygnusx1> replaced-url
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• 4751[23:37:40] <cafuego> I guess it's at least 0.04 better than 3.14.
• 4752[23:37:49] <tako> yes but its released long time ago
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• 4754[23:38:24] <cafuego> tako: That doens't mean whoever creates the packages has had time (or will) to create them.
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• 4756[23:38:45] <TomTomTosch> there you go. it doesn't build. that's why it's not in there.
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• 4761[23:39:40] <TomTomTosch> seems to be close though.
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• 4763[23:40:54] <tako> Yes but i'm feeling like old with my Debian always
• 4764[23:41:10] <tako> Actually i want better visuality to my Debian
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• 4766[23:41:34] <cygnusx1> xfce is nice
• 4767[23:41:38] <tako> is there any plugin for wallpaper day by day ?
• 4768[23:42:04] <cafuego> tako: the goal of debian is to be *stable* not latest.
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• 4770[23:43:07] <tako> cafuefo, but sometimes my gnome down probably its about gnome extansions idk
• 4771[23:43:14] <cygnusx1> thats why i moved to debian. stability
• 4772[23:43:58] <tako> i think Debian is fast but sometimes i'm getting error with my destkop env and maybe its about Debian
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• 4774[23:44:27] <cygnusx1> what error?
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• 4778[23:44:57] <cafuego> Well, even if the goal is stability, there will always be bugs :-)
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• 4780[23:45:29] <tako> where can i find gnome logs
• 4781[23:45:30] <TomTomTosch> pebkac is a major one :P
• 4782[23:45:31] <cafuego> The decision is, do you chanse the latest version so you continuously swap out existing bugs for new bugs
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• 4786[23:45:56] <cafuego> Or do you stick with aversion and incrementally fix it *without* adding new bugs with new features.
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• 4789[23:46:20] <cygnusx1> tako probably in /.gnome
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• 4791[23:46:31] <cygnusx1> im unsure since i do not use gnome
• 4792[23:46:36] <cafuego> tako: or ~/.xsession-errors
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