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0 [00:00:04] <somiaj> did you recompile your program against
stretch libaries, or is this the same binary compiled from jessie?
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8 [00:00:41] <a_duck> this is recompiled, "-ljpeg -lm
-lSDL2 -lGLEW -lGL" are the libs
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10 [00:01:22] <somiaj> wonder if it is a difference in the libs,
as I would think it would be a different error if it was a open gl
compadaiblity issue
11 [00:01:49] <somiaj> but I'm not sure on the details, I
only know there is some swtich from xorg using a special intel
driver to using the generic modesetting driver to talk to the kms
module i915
12 [00:01:49] <a_duck> GL_VERSION = "1.3 Mesa 13.0.6"
13 [00:02:19] <a_duck> yeah, i had no idea about that...
i'm sure it's relevant. really useful thanks
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16 [00:03:01] <a_duck> if i change glGenBuffers to
glGenBuffersARB it'll carry on (to the next thing that was
missing in 1.3)
17 [00:03:37] <somiaj> I have 1.4 on my intel card here, so it
could still be some issue with how your card is being detected.
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21 [00:04:19] <somiaj> so maybe it is some issue with the
modesetting vs intel drivers, vs detcing the capabilities of the
card
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25 [00:05:46] <a_duck> i'm 95% certain it was giving me 2.1
in stretch, i have shader files with version 120 at the top
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27 [00:05:52] <a_duck> yeah, sounds very likely
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31 [00:06:51] <a_duck> thanks for your help though, i'll go
away and do some reading
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35 [00:07:52] <davidisgreat> Alright, I downloaded grml 2017.06
64 bit. I've booted the VM off the ISO and I ran lsblk
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37 [00:07:56] <davidisgreat>
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42 [00:08:50] <somiaj> !grml
43 [00:08:50] <dpkg> grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally
<based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of
GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system
administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing
systems/networks or as a working environment.
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45 [00:09:19] <somiaj> davidisgreat: anyways, based on debian
systems arne't supported by #debian, go ask in #grml
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52 [00:10:44] <jelly> somiaj, they're not asking help FOR
grml. They're just using it to gather info.
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54 [00:11:09] <somiaj> jelly: ahh thanks. davidisgreat: sorry
about that.
55 [00:11:46] <jelly> davidisgreat, so it looks like just one
large disk is there.
56 [00:12:32] <jelly> davidisgreat, can you mount /dev/sda1 ?
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65 [00:18:20] <davidisgreat> I ran mount /dev/sda1 /
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68 [00:19:29] <Li> I miss ubuntu network applet which has GUI
option to share ethernet card to other computers!
69 [00:20:16] <Li> not sure how to share wifi via ethernet on
debian
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71 [00:20:35] <Unit193> Doesn't Ubuntu simply use
network-manager-gnome?
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73 [00:21:09] <Li> Unit193: I'm used to unity and mate
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75 [00:21:34] <Li> the gui is different from gnome debian
76 [00:21:53] <Unit193> That's great, because they both use
it. :P
77 [00:21:57] <awal1> ubuntu uses nm, fo sure
78 [00:22:02] <awal1> nm-applet (for systemtray
79 [00:22:20] <jelly> davidisgreat, uh... don't mount it on
livecd's /
80 [00:22:26] <awal1> well, you just have nm , wicd and connman
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82 [00:22:33] <awal1> connman , intel specific
83 [00:22:37] <jelly> mount it like anywhere else
84 [00:22:57] <Li> maybe the same code but I'm sure not the
same interface. on ubuntu it's just out of the box and option
is calling users to tick it
85 [00:23:27] <awal1> a matter of theaming
86 [00:23:49] <jelly> davidisgreat, in fact, grml autogenerates
some fstab entries so umount that, and you should be able to just
"mount /dev/sda1" and it gets mounted under /media/sda1 or
similar
87 [00:23:55] <Li> however on debian thers is a checkbox called
make available for other users! but is not really working
88 [00:24:07] <davidisgreat> I ran mount /dev/sda1 mount
89 [00:24:10] <davidisgreat> and it worked
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91 [00:24:26] <davidisgreat> Next I need to install grub?
92 [00:24:28] <jelly> davidisgreat, so where is it mounted now?
93 [00:24:33] <davidisgreat> Or move this stuff to a new disk
94 [00:24:46] <davidisgreat> its mounted on /mount
95 [00:24:54] <awal1> Li, google stuff and learn about all that,
you will end what ubuntu did, maybe better
96 [00:26:04] <Li> awal1: you might need to change your mindset
towards google and advising people use it when you don't really
know if they did so already
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98 [00:26:19] <jelly> okay. chroot into /mount (use grml-chroot
/mount, that wrapper sets up useful bind-mounts for you), make sure
/etc/fstab inside the chroot is sane, rebuild initramfs and mayb
reinstall grub
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100 [00:26:49] <jelly> davidisgreat, if your OS and data is
there, there's no need to move it elsewhere again
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102 [00:27:06] <jelly> unles you want to complicate things with
lvm or something
103 [00:27:14] <davidisgreat> how would I make it boot?
104 [00:27:14] <awal1> Li, I felt like you are just complaining
vesusing
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106 [00:27:46] <jelly> davidisgreat, fixing initramfs ought to
fix the boot process. Reinstalling grub is probably not even needed
at all
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108 [00:28:26] <davidisgreat> So I can just restart the VM?
109 [00:28:27] <jelly> your fstab entries, esp. the one for / fs,
should be correct for the new VM, so verify them
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112 [00:29:02] <jelly> davidisgreat, did you verify sanity of
fstab and rebuild initramfs already?
113 [00:29:04] <davidisgreat> I edit fstab in /etc on the disk I
just mounted?
114 [00:29:10] <davidisgreat> no
115 [00:29:15] <jelly> just mounted and chrooted into.
116 [00:29:25] <jelly> did you chroot into it?
117 [00:29:42] <davidisgreat> I just mounted /dev/sda1 to /mount
118 [00:30:02] <jelly> maybe you missed this:
119 [00:30:03] <jelly> <jelly> okay. chroot into /mount
(use grml-chroot /mount, that wrapper sets up useful bind-mounts for
you), make sure /etc/fstab inside the chroot is sane, rebuild
initramfs and mayb reinstall grub
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122 [00:32:25] <jelly> P2V should have fixed /etc/fstab, but who
knows, best make sure / now points to /dev/sda1
123 [00:33:00] <davidisgreat>
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124 [00:33:48] <jelly> so replace /dev/md0 with /dev/sda1 for the
time being
125 [00:34:25] <jelly> and probably comment out /dev/sdd1 entry,
that disk does not look migrated at all
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129 [00:35:35] <jelly> and I guess you don't need two
separate disks for two separate swap partitions, but that can be
fixed later
130 [00:35:45] <davidisgreat>
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131 [00:35:56] <jelly> right
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133 [00:36:06] <jelly> now rebuild initramfs
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135 [00:36:11] <davidisgreat> Its hard to tell but there is a #
before /dev/sdd1
136 [00:36:50] <davidisgreat> I should run
"update-initramfs"?
137 [00:36:54] <jelly> yes.
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139 [00:36:59] <bites> is
140 [00:37:06] <bites> eek, sry
141 [00:37:16] <jelly> maybe dpkg-reconfigure mdadm before that,
tell it there's no md array required for boot
142 [00:37:57] <jelly> I guess you could just remove the mdadm
package completely
143 [00:38:12] <davidisgreat>
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144 [00:38:15] <davidisgreat> I'll change this to none
145 [00:38:31] <jelly> mdadm question? yeah
146 [00:39:19] <jelly> if that triggers initramfs rebuild
automatically, you don't have to do it manually
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149 [00:40:10] <davidisgreat>
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153 [00:41:34] <davidisgreat> I ran the command. Now I should
remove the ISO and reboot?
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160 [00:44:10] <jelly> davidisgreat, did you notice the output
after mdadm's debconf question?
161 [00:44:26] <jelly> it rebuilt initramfs on its own
162 [00:44:32] <davidisgreat> oh, chill
163 [00:44:37] <davidisgreat> well, its done twice now
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166 [00:45:03] <jelly> you can exit the chroot, umount /mount and
reboot
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168 [00:45:40] <davidisgreat> It booted into grub, which is
progress
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170 [00:46:04] <davidisgreat>
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171 [00:46:17] <jelly> if you ended in initramfs shell last time,
that means grub worked last time as well
172 [00:46:39] <jelly> uh, that's grub shell, not grub menu
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174 [00:46:58] <davidisgreat> it booted on its own when it was
physical.
175 [00:47:08] <davidisgreat> but this is still further then I
made it before
176 [00:47:25] <jelly> eh, boot grml again and reinstall grub
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180 [00:48:30] <jelly> davidisgreat, that is, boot grml, mount
your / to /mount, grml-chroot into it, run update-grub, run
grub-install /dev/sda, exit, umount, reboot
181 [00:48:44] <davidisgreat> I'll do it now. Thanks!
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187 [00:54:10] <davidisgreat>
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194 [00:57:09] <davidisgreat>
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195 [00:57:13] <davidisgreat> this looks promicing
196 [00:57:29] <jelly> perhaps
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205 [01:01:44] <davidisgreat> It booted! Thanks so much for
dragging me to a solution. This was defiantly beyond my skill to
fix.
206 [01:03:09] <jelly> great
207 [01:03:58] <jelly> now go replace /dev/sda1 in fstab with
UUID=correct-uuid-here or LABEL= :-)
208 [01:04:34] <jelly> and rerun update-grub and see if it still
boots
209 [01:05:33] <jelly> (blkid to find it out)
210 [01:06:13] <davidisgreat>
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212 [01:06:43] <jelly> but if you're on esxi disk order
won't change on its own so leaving it at /dev/sda1 is
reasonably safe
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217 [01:08:12] <jelly> davidisgreat, you'd replace /dev/sda1
with UUID=0d08... (copy/paste the whole GUID value, just get rid of
the quotes)
218 [01:08:28] <jelly> or label the filesystem and use that.
219 [01:08:38] <jelly> e2label is your friend
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221 [01:09:28] <jelly> /dev/md2: LABEL="backup"
UUID="c881e3a8-f550-4b3f-8a1e-fb9bc94d6189"
SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
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224 [01:10:02] <jelly> and... maybe upgrade that debian 6 to
something that is still supported, even!
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226 [01:11:00] <jelly> you can now take snapshots and whatnot, it
helps a lot when doing ugly release upgrades on legacy
cra^H^H^Hsystems
227 [01:11:25] <jelly> dpkg, squeeze->wheezy
228 [01:11:26] <dpkg> Read chapter 4 ("Upgrades from Debian
6.0") of the <release notes>. In /etc/apt/sources.list,
change "squeeze" to "wheezy" (noting that
<wheezy-backports> have changed on the mirrors). apt-get
update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade.
See also <squeeze->wheezy failures>.
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230 [01:11:38] <jelly> !wheezy release notes
231 [01:11:38] <dpkg> Release notes for Debian 7
"Wheezy" are at
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235 [01:14:59] <davidisgreat> sounds good.
236 [01:15:03] <davidisgreat> thanks again for your help
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241 [01:16:25] <spacedust> how usable is debian testing as a
desktop ?
242 [01:16:33] <spacedust> im installing that right now with kde
:)
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246 [01:19:39] <RoyK> spacedust: probably usable, but then,
it's testing
247 [01:19:49] <somiaj> spacedust: many people use it, but expect
problems you may have to work around/deal with.
248 [01:20:00] <RoyK> dpkg: tell spacedust about testing
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252 [01:20:49] <somiaj> spacedust: My experience is large
desktops (like kde/gnome) are the worst experience in testing
because they integrate so much and sometimes fixes are slow to make
it through sid into testing. I would also install a wm backup for
times kde breaks.
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255 [01:21:04] <jelly> the greatest things about testing is you
don't get to ask questions in here!
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258 [01:21:35] <jelly> unless a release is vey close
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260 [01:22:47] <RoyK> jelly: hell, let's just have one IRC
channel or everything
261 [01:22:54] <RoyK> jelly: take a look at #ubuntu ;)
262 [01:22:54] <somiaj> I think it should depend on the question,
no need to be sent to another network to be given a wiki link or
factoid.
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264 [01:23:18] <somiaj> but yea, longer drawn out issues should
be in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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266 [01:25:09] <eric23> is Debian GNU/Hurd off topic here?
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270 [01:26:30] <somiaj> eric23: finding someone who actually runs
it here will be the hard part, I would go find an appropriate
channel on irc.oftc.net
271 [01:26:59] <somiaj> standard debian questions could be
answered about that, but anything about the hurd kernel or issues on
that port most here will no experience with.
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284 [01:35:32] <spacedust> oh , thanks RoyK
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288 [01:36:45] <spacedust> well im using kali rolling 2018 right
now, which is desbian testing also if i know well
289 [01:36:49] <spacedust> so far works well
290 [01:37:07] <spacedust> yeah i will install a lxde or some
other DE backup for kde
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292 [01:37:27] <spacedust> when is buster supposed to be released
?
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294 [01:37:51] <spacedust> i opted for this since i think i read
that it will be this spring so pretty close, but correct me if im
wrong
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303 [01:42:10] <somiaj> spacedust: next year sometime given the
recent time frame. Though debian's time line is always
'when it is ready'
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305 [01:42:49] <somiaj> once the freeze starts, which I think
will be sometime next year, it takes 3-6 months after that for the
last few releases, and they seem to happen about every two years.
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309 [01:45:54] <spacedust> i want to install stuff like zfs &
wireguard
310 [01:46:13] <spacedust> somiaj: oh i see so buster is a long
way since today :)
311 [01:46:15] <RoyK> zfs is in
312 [01:46:56] <RoyK> spacedust: no need for buster to use zfs
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314 [01:47:04] <spacedust> RoyK: i know :)
315 [01:47:26] <spacedust> RoyK: i just thought maybe its like
gentoo testing ~arch which is mostly stable
316 [01:47:50] <spacedust> RoyK: and never used testing btw so i
said ill try this now, almost installed
317 [01:48:00] * RoyK started using zfs like 10 years back and still
likes it, except for the lack of flexibility mdadm is offering
318 [01:48:05] <spacedust> 97% cleaning up
319 [01:48:27] <spacedust> RoyK: what kind of flexibility is that
? can you elaborate please ?
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322 [01:49:31] <RoyK> spacedust: in my last job, I setup some
machines for backup targets - two with 100TiB net storage, one with
just 16
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324 [01:49:46] <RoyK> 2TB drives was the thing back then
325 [01:50:04] <RoyK> so - a lot of drives
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327 [01:50:22] <spacedust> isnt zfs designed for that ? a lot of
drives ?
328 [01:50:39] <spacedust> huh wow system booted so fast :)
329 [01:51:19] <RoyK> it certainly is
330 [01:51:22] <spacedust> what video drivers do i need if using
kvm with spice ?
331 [01:51:41] <RoyK> never seen spice work on debian
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333 [01:52:04] <RoyK> but then - it's some time since I
tried to look into it
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336 [01:54:31] <spacedust> well the host is kali 2018
337 [01:55:23] <spacedust> i like this new kde a lot
338 [01:55:26] <spacedust> its really good
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343 [01:58:23] <spacedust> how does one stop kde accessibility
from starting ? :)
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358 [02:05:56] <somiaj> spacedust: you shoudln't need
anytying special in the guest. xserver-xorg-video-qxl should already
be installed.
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360 [02:06:18] <somiaj> spice-vdagent is something that may not
be installed by default, needed for other spice stuff, but I
don't think video.
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362 [02:06:46] <somiaj> but I have spice working on my vm's
here jsut fine.
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406 [02:31:14] <spacedust> super super fast reboots using kvm and
qcow2 on regular disk, i do have a lot of free ram on the host
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409 [02:32:57] <spacedust> oh i was hoping to see wireguard in
testing :P its pretty stable if you ask me :)
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411 [02:34:00] <somiaj> stability is not the only thing that gets
packages into testing, packages have to meet certain criteria in sid
before they are allowed to migrate. wiregog is blocked due to bugs
412 [02:34:05] <somiaj>
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449 [02:55:28] <cheako> I upgraded to sid and my touchpad scroll
is upside-down. I changed my xorg.conf, but I still need to run
xinput all the time to fix it.
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452 [02:57:14] <Infomaniack> anyone have any idea why firefox
would fail to execute. I downloaded the ISO and it seemed to work
find. Then I shut it down to work on hardening the system. (I know
technically not the most secure way) Ping works but I get an
input/out failed to execute error. Any suggestions much appreciated.
thanks
453 [02:58:12] <RoyK> cheako: see #debian-next on oftc, please -
sd isn't supported here
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457 [02:59:49] <annadane> Infomaniack, iso? how did you install
firefox?
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462 [03:01:17] <Infomaniack> @annadane I dd'd the iso to a
usb. Been dual booting from that usb.
463 [03:01:38] <annadane> oh, i thought you meant "firefox
iso"
464 [03:01:48] <annadane> unless that *is* what you mean
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466 [03:02:23] <annadane> well, start by pasting the full error
message - paste.debian.net
467 [03:02:45] <Infomaniack> @annadane no that is not what I
meant to convey. DEBIAN iso. So obviously firefox comes with it.
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475 [03:07:04] <dvs> Infomaniack, do you have Debian installed?
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479 [03:07:23] <Infomaniack> @dvs yes of course.
480 [03:08:34] <dvs> Infomaniack, you don't want to install
Firefox through the internet?
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483 [03:10:05] <somiaj> and you have an actual cd/dvd image, not
just a netinstall iso?
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485 [03:10:16] <webchat249> hi
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487 [03:10:50] <Infomaniack> @dvs no i dont want to install it
via the internet. I would much prefer to figure out what is wrong
with the problem at hand.
488 [03:10:51] <somiaj> Infomaniack: oh I missed the orrignal
problem, so you are getting input/output errors when running
firefox? This sounds like bad hardware.
489 [03:11:27] <somiaj> Infomaniack: can you give a paste of the
actual error you are getting to start.
490 [03:11:36] <Infomaniack> @anyway to investigate this. Firefox
worked initially when I downloaded debian. Also as I said ping
works.
491 [03:11:48] <Infomaniack> @somiaj
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494 [03:13:57] <somiaj> we need to know why it didn't work,
so some actual output would be nice. I saw input/output error, did
you see something saying this? What about firefox doesn't work?
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497 [03:14:14] <somiaj> does the program run? Does it segfault?
Crash? Or just does it not connect to the internet.
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499 [03:16:16] <Infomaniack> @somaij I get 'failed to
execute command' which is just the pop up window. followed by
the path of failure 'usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr%u'
500 [03:16:31] <Infomaniack> @somiaj
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503 [03:17:46] <somiaj> Infomaniack: whatever you are using to
run firefox seems to have a typo, there should be a space between
the firefox-esr and %u, also that command is not in /usr/lib. Can
you open up a terminal and run 'firefox-esr' from the
command line and see what happens (a virtual terminal in your
desktop)
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518 [03:21:48] <Infomaniack> @somiaj I shamefully have never ran
a vm. I dont know a good one to choose yet. I will boot from the USB
and get back to you in 5.
519 [03:22:18] <somiaj> okay, but it sounds liek the launcher you
are using is misconfigured.
520 [03:22:51] <Infomaniack> @somiaj where should that command be
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524 [03:23:47] <somiaj> depending on your desktop you'll be
able to open a terminal. That will give you a command line you can
type the command into.
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526 [03:24:12] <somiaj> how you open it depends on your desktop,
it should be in your applications menu
527 [03:24:20] <awal1> Infomaniack, virtual terminal doesn't
mean virtualized system
528 [03:24:43] <Infomaniack> @somiaj no. no. no. where should the
firefox-esr be if not in the /usr/lib path?
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532 [03:25:20] <dvs> /usr/bin ?
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534 [03:26:03] <Infomaniack> @dvs thats what I would think
535 [03:26:05] <awal1> bin
536 [03:26:18] <dvs> Infomaniack, That's where it is here.
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538 [03:26:43] <somiaj> Infomaniack: it should be in
/usr/bin/firefox-esr, but without any actual info we can't say
much about your system.
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543 [03:32:31] <Infomaniack> @somiaj understandable. Also I am on
windows. What would be the best way to run a virtual terminal?
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545 [03:34:06] <Infomaniack> @awal1 learned something new today
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549 [03:35:24] <awal1> he just mean open a terminal
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551 [03:36:05] <Infomaniack> @awal1 o. ok lol
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557 [03:38:59] <awal1> but usually by virtual terminal people
refers to a Console, tty, not in a graphical environment
558 [03:39:12] <awal1> he left yet :P
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562 [03:44:08] <Myth0s> Infomaniack, for a bash terminal in
windows try cygwin
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623 [04:42:44] <Infomaniack> @somiaj I moved the firefox
directory to /usr/bin. (I had some issues with mv since there is a
file within firefox-esr called firefox-esr). However when I click
the firefox icon on the top right of screen I get "failed to
execute child process for the /usr/lib directory.
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626 [04:43:51] <dvs> Infomaniack, you shouldn't have to move
your firefox directory if you used a .deb file to install it.
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629 [04:44:53] <Infomaniack> @dvs I have no idea why this would
happen. Firefox launched fine at first
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772 [06:56:12] <mrx> sounds like a pain
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825 [07:37:48] <jaami_______> hi, my mouse cannot revert back to
the normal scrolling after selecting Natural Scrolling on.
826 [07:38:58] <jaami_______> i switched off the Natural
Scrolling but mouse still follow it. what i should do to stop
Natural scrolling
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831 [07:41:08] <blaztek> jaami_______: not sure but have you
tried logging out and back in?
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833 [07:42:00] <jaami_______> blaztek: no i did not try loggin
out. my laptop goes hibernate
834 [07:43:18] <jaami_______> this command i checked online but
it did not work-- echo "pointer = 1 2 3 5 4 7 6 8 9 10 11
12" > ~/.Xmodmap && xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
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839 [07:45:38] <jaami_______> blaztek: multiple VMs are running
so thinking if you can help with command in terminal
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841 [07:46:26] <jaami_______> last restart was 2 days ago.
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843 [07:49:03] <jaami_______> my mistake i tried Natural
scrolling for no reason. i dont even need it because my VMs are
windows guests.scrolling has become Natural problem
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847 [07:50:45] <jaami_______> GUI is always problem, i dont
understand why developers cannot fix miner issues with debian GUI
848 [07:50:53] <blaztek> jaami_______: try
replaced-url
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859 [07:56:48] <jaami_______> blaztek: i checked those commands
in terminal. but problem was not fixed. i think i should try logout
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862 [07:57:32] <blaztek> jaami_______: just detach your VMs
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864 [07:58:21] <jaami_______> blaztek: detach without sutting
down VMs?
865 [07:58:40] <jaami_______> ***shutdown
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868 [07:59:38] <jaami_______> let me do the shut down of all VMs
and debian too
869 [07:59:40] <blaztek> Yes. Mine run detached from the GUI so I
don’t always have to be logged in.
870 [07:59:58] <jaami_______> oh ok
871 [08:00:19] <blaztek> Virtual
872 [08:00:22] <blaztek> Box
873 [08:00:50] <jaami_______> blaztek: how i can do the same
setup for my VMs too?
874 [08:00:55] <jaami_______> yes, Vbox
875 [08:02:24] <jaami_______> let me restart system.
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877 [08:02:38] <blaztek> Okay
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892 [08:09:34] <blaztek> jaami_______, instead of clicking Start
for the VM, click the drop down arrow and choose "Headless
Start" or "Detachable Start".
893 [08:09:53] <blaztek> jaami_______, you can also do it from
the command line
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895 [08:11:38] <blaztek> jaami_______, `VBoxManage startvm --type
headless your-guid-goes-here-instead`
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906 [08:21:15] <jaami_______> blaztek: the natural Scrolling
cannot be fixed. I got the understanding of headless start
907 [08:22:55] <blaztek> jaami_______, that sucks about the
natural scrolling
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910 [08:23:58] <jaami_______> blaztek: i am working on a
dashboard. have to get involved in actual work now. Yes, that
natural scrolling is natural problem i guess :) Thank you for your
help. i will try to find you next time.
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1257 [09:41:06] <cariveri> Hi. after an ugrade to jessie the
locales seems to be messed up. get a warning: perl: warning: Falling
back to the standard locale ("C").
1258 [09:41:37] <cariveri> also LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL =
(unset), LANG = "C" ...
1259 [09:41:43] <jelly> that's not all perl says,
there's a line above
1260 [09:41:55] <jelly> show the complete output
1261 [09:41:58] <jelly> !paste
1262 [09:41:58] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
1263 [09:42:24] <cariveri> also locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to
default locale: No such file or directory
1264 [09:43:03] <jelly> can you pastebin the full command line you
ran and the complete output
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1266 [09:43:17] <cariveri> jelly: is that perhaps enough? I ran
dpkg-reconfigure to setup loales.
1267 [09:44:14] <jelly> it should be, if you enabled the actual
locales perl complained about
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1272 [09:47:04] <cariveri> jelly:
replaced-url
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1275 [09:48:00] <jelly> so you have set en_US.UTF-8, en_GB.UTF-8,
de_DE.UTF-8
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1279 [09:49:02] <cariveri> oh. yes. I just ran recofngiure locales
again and also select en_US.UTF-8 . It wasnt setup, but used it
seems.
1280 [09:49:08] <cariveri> Generation complete.
1281 [09:49:12] <descuidado> im trying to configure grub's
resolution on /etc/default/grub, but for some reason wrong
resolution persists, i also make sure i use update-grub, also btw,
is it a good idea to install aptitude?
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1352 [10:20:52] <__marco> Hello. I oft get "Hash Sum
mismatch" if I use deb.debian.org
1353 [10:21:00] <__marco> I don't know why
1354 [10:21:11] <__marco> updating the repo does not help
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1359 [10:22:10] <__marco> Ah yes, I know remember. Internal proxy.
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1368 [10:25:28] <anonymip> I have gnome-maps installed under
debian, but it doesn't show any map layers, any ideas how to
get them to show?
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1419 [10:46:59] <sitral> hello
1420 [10:47:21] <milpool> hi. i need to list all licenses (GPL
etc) for the installed packages on a debian system. is there a way
to do this automatically?
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1422 [10:47:50] <sitral> I could not find help in Google about how
to remove nvidia-driver and use the Nouveau instead... it is because
nvidia ones seem not to support DRI2
1423 [10:51:47] <rephlexie> milpool, something like this maybe?
replaced-url
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1427 [10:54:50] <milpool> rephlexie: exactly like that, thanks!
seems like this will cover at least a bunch
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1440 [11:02:32] <anonymip> any ideas about gnome-maps
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1470 [11:15:26] <DerAlfe> Hey there. I got a new toy on my desk
and want to install debian on it. The twist: It just has Network
Ports. I was looking for an easy approach, to stuff an image into
the USB Slot of the machine and boot it. But there doesn't seem
to be a "Raspbian"-Like approach to this issue.
1471 [11:16:32] <DerAlfe> Or is there some magic value in grub i
can set, to enable ssh on startup and set a password?
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1514 [11:48:12] <Emil> Hi
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1516 [11:49:48] <Emil> I'm building things but menuconfig
symbols are garbage (xs and qs instead of the normal symbols)
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1518 [11:50:01] <Emil> libncurses is installed
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1521 [11:50:45] <ksk> DerAlfe: that does totally depend on your
toy. are you sure it does run grub at all? eg some NAS systems use
uboot bootloader.
1522 [11:50:50] <Emil> Should I install some additional packages?
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1524 [11:52:27] <Emil> I installed all possible ncurses-* packages
(there are 6) and the problem persists. My $TERM is xterm-256color
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1528 [11:53:38] <DerAlfe> ksk: How can I find out without having a
screen at all
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1530 [11:54:13] <Emil> by symbols are garbage I mean the
horizontal and vertical lines are rendered as q and x
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1543 [12:01:34] <HurricaneHarry> DerAlfe: Any markings on the toy
wich may tell what it is ?
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1545 [12:02:17] <DerAlfe> It's exactly this one:
replaced-url
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1548 [12:03:24] <bezaban> DerAlfe: you can use a serial console
1549 [12:03:40] <DerAlfe> I got the serial console attached.
1550 [12:03:45] <bezaban> at least that's what I did on one
of their previous models
1551 [12:04:01] <DerAlfe> but i dont get any signal on the serial
console
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1554 [12:04:27] <bezaban> did you try tweaking the flow bits and
baud etc?
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1556 [12:04:44] <DerAlfe> Is serial console enabled by default?
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1558 [12:04:48] <DerAlfe> I just tried to screen on it
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1561 [12:05:16] <bezaban> I've used minicom and putty with
success
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1564 [12:05:39] <bezaban> there is also a basic bios where you can
tweak some settings
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1566 [12:06:08] <bezaban> For alix boards, the default setting is
38400 8N1, no flow control. For apu boards, 115200 8N1
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1568 [12:06:28] <bezaban>
replaced-url
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1571 [12:07:37] <bezaban> oh. wait, this is not pcengines.ch, I
think they're the same boards though
1572 [12:08:07] <DerAlfe> Ok. Just put everything in moserial and
openedd (what is hopefully the right) ttyUSB. gonna restart the
board...
1573 [12:08:44] <DerAlfe> Aaaand, got a signal
1574 [12:08:47] <bezaban> :D
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1576 [12:09:23] <DerAlfe> Ouh. There is a coreboot
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1580 [12:11:19] <HurricaneHarry> DerAlfe: the pdf manual is
downloadable on the right on your url.
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1589 [12:15:05] <HurricaneHarry> DerAlfe: also
replaced-url
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1595 [12:16:34] <DerAlfe> HurricaneHarry: Looks like something I
need
1596 [12:16:46] <DerAlfe> Whef. So. I got a signal now and its
running memtest.
1597 [12:16:56] <DerAlfe> Which is nice.
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1600 [12:17:38] <DerAlfe> But how do i change the files inside the
iso?
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1602 [12:17:47] <DerAlfe> when i mount the netinst iso its always
"ro"
1603 [12:18:03] <DerAlfe> when i try to use isomaster, an
unbootable image comes out of the process
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1605 [12:19:14] <ShapeShifter499> hi
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1607 [12:20:11] <ShapeShifter499> I'm coming from Arch Linux
where you could set "hooks" when you invoked a upgrade so
that when a package was upgraded a command was ran afterwards. Can I
do something similar in Debian with Apt-get?
1608 [12:20:27] <DerAlfe> So i need to somehow change the grub
entry, to add serial output on boot
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1610 [12:21:46] <NCS_One> hi
1611 [12:22:19] <HurricaneHarry> DerAlfe: my best guess would be
dd the iso to an usb stick (linux)
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1613 [12:22:33] <DerAlfe> got it on an usb stick already
1614 [12:23:10] <DerAlfe> But just can mount the USB Stick as Read
Only Filesystem
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1618 [12:25:07] <NCS_One> at home I have a Debian OS but at work I
have to use windows :(, currently I'm using mingw64 that came
with Git install. I was thinking on instaling a linux subsystem from
windows store. Should I just keep using mingw64, install subsystem
or is there a better solution?
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1630 [12:27:47] <syshape> When Debian changes the stable release,
let's say from jessie to stretch, does it means that the jessie
package repository won't evolve ?
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1633 [12:29:14] <petn-randall> syshape: The oldstable release will
still be maintained for a year, then usually the LTS team takes over
and maintains it for a few more years.
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1638 [12:32:44] <HurricaneHarry> DerAlfe: I have arrived at
replaced-url
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1642 [12:36:18] <DerAlfe> I'm here:
replaced-url
1643 [12:36:30] <DerAlfe> Sry: No Gutest to Host copying ;)
1644 [12:36:44] <DerAlfe>
replaced-url
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1790 [13:52:57] <Mikjaer> I need to install Debian onto an HP
Microserver with 2x250GB HD running in mirror 1, when i setup two
raids (one for root and one for swap) through the installer, grub
refuses to install. What is the recommeded way of doing this for
debian 9?
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1796 [13:55:17] <Mikjaer>
replaced-url
1797 [13:56:06] <sitral> I could revert to Nouveau drivers but
still I can not start a EGL DRI2 app (Qt), I get the following
error: QXcbIntegration: Cannot create platform OpenGL context,
neither GLX nor EGL are enabled
1798 [13:56:13] <sitral> I am using Buster
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1807 [13:58:46] <sitral> I got the following warning: libEGL
warning: DRI2: failed to open nouveau (search paths /usr/lib/dri)
1808 [13:59:41] <sitral> but I created a link named /usr/lib/dri
to point to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/ and have checked with
strace that the nouveau library is actually opened
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1955 [15:20:54] <r4co0n> Hi. When configuring unattended-upgrades,
the default config at /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades has
a commented line about using apt's bandwidth limit feature. If
I enable this, will all of apt's downloads will be limited or
just those of unattended-upgrades.
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1957 [15:21:35] <r4co0n> I suspect the former, the statement is
Acquire::http::Dl-Limit "70";
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1961 [15:24:05] <Kev-> I have my primary ethernet interface set up
like this:
replaced-url
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1967 [15:25:37] <r4co0n> Kev-, try dropping line 3, as far as I
can tell 'inter' is garbage and you don't want both
dhcp and static
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1978 [15:28:22] <Kev-> r4co0n: I do want dhcp and static tho - and
the interface comes up with both static and dhcp on bootup, just
doesn't restore the static one when it seems to drop for random
reasons after bootup (might be after a few days even)
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1986 [15:31:26] <Pegasus_RPG> Kev-: How does that even work? I
would expect the other hosts and routers on the network to become
horribly confused, having two addresses to reach the same host. I
would recommend setting up two virtual interfaces if you need this
functionality
1987 [15:31:31] <r4co0n> Kev-, it should still be "... inet
dhcp" in line 3, I think. I only knew the legacy method of
getting multiple ips on one interface, sorry for the confusion.
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1989 [15:32:12] <r4co0n> Pegasus_RPG, he's doing this:
replaced-url
1990 [15:32:35] <r4co0n> What we know is the legacy method
above...
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1993 [15:32:53] <r4co0n> From what I see there, it should work...
1994 [15:33:16] <Pegasus_RPG> The "Note however that this
method is dangerous!" bit would give me pause. :)
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1998 [15:33:31] <r4co0n> sure thing, I only skimmed it :)
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2002 [15:35:00] <Pegasus_RPG> r4co0n: as for your question,
I'm pretty sure making adjustments in the unattended-upgrades
file only affects unattended-upgrades. But I've never used it.
(I run an apt-cacher-ng server that has its bandwidth limited and my
hosts all use that as their update source.)
2003 [15:35:10] <Kev-> Yeah I'm not sure what I'm doing.
i've only done this with the old method, and this new method
isn't working completely for me
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2005 [15:35:57] <r4co0n> Pegasus_RPG, well, it's one of many
config files in apt.conf.d, I would expect apt to read those,
regardless of their name.
2006 [15:36:05] <Pegasus_RPG> oh good point
2007 [15:36:42] <Pegasus_RPG> You could always test by setting the
limit to something really low and doing apt update and see if it
takes much longer
2008 [15:37:00] <Barones> Doesn't wine create a launcher on
debian 9 stretch? I'm trying to associate .exe extensions to
wine but it doesnt show up in file manager
2009 [15:37:35] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: You may need to run winecfg
first to set things up
2010 [15:38:14] <r4co0n> Pegasus_RPG, yeah, I'll have to test
that, I am writing a bit of automation around deploying
unattended-upgrades, I think I won't set this by default until
I have tested :P
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2016 [15:39:32] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: But otherwise, you could
try right-clicking an EXE file and manually setting "Open
With..." to /usr/bin/wine. I use KDE's Dolphin and this
works for me.
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2018 [15:40:22] <Barones> Pegasus_RPG, I'm using gnome and
the option to select a path doesn't show up to me
2019 [15:40:43] <Barones> I'm looking for something in
winecfg
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2021 [15:42:12] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: Nautilus, right?
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2024 [15:42:36] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: does this help?
replaced-url
2025 [15:43:00] <Ilyas> when im running a Debian guest vm in
Virtualbox with multiple network interfaces, how can I activate both
at the same time?
2026 [15:43:10] <Pegasus_RPG> System | Preferences | Preferred
Applications or right-click a file and click "Open with other
application"
2027 [15:43:15] <Ilyas> right now, whenever I activate one, the
other deactivates
2028 [15:43:21] <r4co0n> Pegasus_RPG, the thing is, nautilus only
let's you select registered applications with "Open
with", you can't select an executable
2029 [15:43:28] <Ilyas> one is a NAT and the other is host-only,
if that matters
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2031 [15:44:02] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: what do you mean
"deactivates?" Loses its network connection or stops
running?
2032 [15:44:48] <Pegasus_RPG> r4co0n, Barones: From that article
"Click the "Add" button and scroll the list. If the
application you want to use is listed, select it. If not, click the
triangle beside the "Use a custom command" text string and
either browse for the application or enter in the full path and
filename to the application."
2033 [15:45:13] <Ilyas> Pegasus_RPG: uh, both?
2034 [15:45:15] <Barones> Pegasus_RPG, what r4co0n said is what is
happening to me, wine doesn't show up as a registered app, so I
can't select it
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2036 [15:45:33] <r4co0n> Pegasus_RPG, they optimized this.
2037 [15:45:37] <Barones> I was thinking to create a .desktop file
and place %F in exec path
2038 [15:45:43] <r4co0n> Pegasus_RPG, there is no triangle anymore
2039 [15:46:08] <Pegasus_RPG> XD
2040 [15:46:43] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: oh sorry, I read "two
VMs" rather than "two network interfaces"
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2042 [15:47:26] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: that's odd then. Does
anything interesting appear in syslog when you try activating both?
2043 [15:47:53] <Ilyas> lemme check
2044 [15:48:36] <Barones>
replaced-url
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2046 [15:48:46] <Barones> this is the page
2047 [15:48:48] <ychaouche> hello #debian
2048 [15:49:00] <ychaouche> should I disable rpcbind and rpc.statd
if I'm not using NFS ?
2049 [15:49:07] <ychaouche> they're showing up in lsof -i
2050 [15:49:28] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: huh. I wonder why
"add" is grayed out at the bottom. Does it light up if you
click one of the "other applications" list?
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2052 [15:49:57] <Barones> The add, add the selected app as a
default program
2053 [15:50:05] <Pegasus_RPG> ychaouche: why not just remove the
nfs packages?
2054 [15:50:24] <ychaouche> Pegasus_RPG: I wonder which ones ?
2055 [15:50:33] <Pegasus_RPG> ychaouche: dpkg -l |grep -i nfs
2056 [15:50:35] <Barones> like this
replaced-url
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2058 [15:51:09] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: weird. I'd ask in
#gnome.
2059 [15:51:19] <Barones> Thanks Pegasus_RPG :)
2060 [15:51:20] <ychaouche> nfs-common. Hum. I wonder why did I
install this
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2062 [15:52:00] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: sorry I can't help
more. I'm a KDE guy. :)
2063 [15:52:26] <Pegasus_RPG> ychaouche: make sure removing that
doesn't also remove other packages you need/want
2064 [15:52:36] <Pegasus_RPG> (Other things might depend on it)
2065 [15:52:54] <r4co0n> Barones, creating a launcher with
'gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new
~/.local/share/applications/' seems the way to go
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2067 [15:53:55] <Ilyas> Pegasus_RPG:
replaced-url
2068 [15:53:56] <r4co0n> You can search for wine there, give it a
sane name, and afterwards it should appear in your applications and
also for 'open with'.
2069 [15:54:03] <Ilyas> I think that's the relevant lines
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2071 [15:54:13] <ychaouche> hum. I still have rpcbind running
2072 [15:54:25] <ychaouche> rpc.statd has gone from sight.
2073 [15:54:59] <ychaouche> do I need rpcbind ?
2074 [15:55:02] <Barones> thanks r4co0n I will do that but
I'm a little impressed that this have to be done to associae a
extension to wine
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2076 [15:55:13] <ychaouche> what programs rely on it ?
2077 [15:55:14] <Barones> could be more simple
2078 [15:55:14] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: oh, Network Manager seems to
think you only have one network interface and you're just
changing the profile it uses. What's in your
/etc/network/interfaces[.d] ?
2079 [15:56:07] <Pegasus_RPG> ychaouche: also remove the rpcbind
package:
replaced-url
2080 [15:56:24] <Pegasus_RPG> again, as long as it doesn't
cause other needed packages to be removed
2081 [15:56:24] <Ilyas> Pegasus_RPG: thanks. interfaces only has
the lo interface
2082 [15:56:29] <r4co0n> Barones, the .desktop file is missing, I
have no idea why. It would be good if you could investigate if it is
really not there or only not read, and file an appropriate bug, if
necessary.
2083 [15:56:38] <Ilyas> Pegasus_RPG: interfaces.d is empty
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2092 [15:57:34] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: Then you don't actually
have multiple interfaces. :)
2093 [15:57:39] <Pegasus_RPG> At least not configured.
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2095 [15:57:56] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: what does lspci |grep -i
ethernet show?
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2097 [15:59:02] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: perhaps more importantly,
what is in the VM's hardware config page in the VirtualBox
manager?
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2100 [15:59:38] <Ilyas> lspci says `00:03.0 Ethernet controller:
Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)`
twice
2101 [15:59:59] <Ilyas> so does vbox
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2103 [16:00:17] <r4co0n> Barones, I just checked, wine does indeed
install without a desktop file, but it does ship with an example
file you can amend, at /usr/share/doc/wine/examples/wine.desktop
2104 [16:00:20] <Emil> Okay so a strange issue
2105 [16:00:23] <Ilyas> both are the Intel pro/1000 nic,
virtualized obviously
2106 [16:00:29] <Emil> my groups are different when logging in
remotely and locally
2107 [16:00:34] <Emil> how should I fix it
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2110 [16:01:04] <Barones> r4co0n, I created a laucher with %F and
that solved it, now it shows up in the file manager
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2112 [16:01:31] <krukudilo> ychaouche, if your not using nfs you
can remove rpcbind
2113 [16:01:50] <Barones> cool, by curiosity and because I'm
still learning about linux, where did u check that?
2114 [16:02:08] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: and what does ls -l
/sys/class/net/e* show?
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2116 [16:02:55] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: That syslog output you pasted
does talk about two interfaces, though I'm puzzled as to how it
knows about them if they're not defined in
/etc/network/interfaces
2117 [16:03:05] <Ilyas> ya
2118 [16:03:14] <Ilyas> I'll get you the output in a sec
2119 [16:03:30] <Ilyas> a quick online search shows that I'm
not the only one with this issue
2120 [16:03:49] <Barones> thanks r4co0n
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2123 [16:04:15] <r4co0n> Barones, this works for all Debian
packages: Go to
replaced-url
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2126 [16:04:55] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: I would suggest going
lower-lever first: stop network manager (and networking) then define
the interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces even as just
"allow-hotplug ethX"
2127 [16:05:07] <r4co0n> Barones, this get's harder if you
have to look through many dependencies, there are tools like
'apt-file' to help with that.
2128 [16:05:12] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: such that ip addr lists them
2129 [16:05:45] <Ilyas> Pegasus_RPG:
replaced-url
2130 [16:05:54] <r4co0n> Barones, If I wouldn't have been
quite sure that the .desktop file is shipped with the meta package,
it would have gotten hard.
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2132 [16:06:08] <Ilyas> ip addr does list them tho
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2134 [16:06:14] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: okay, just confirming.
2135 [16:06:16] <Ilyas> but I'll edit interfaces
2136 [16:06:30] <Ilyas> what does allow-hotplug dow btw?
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2139 [16:06:39] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: well shoot, maybe just do
ifup enp0s10 && ifup enp0s3 and see what happens
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2143 [16:07:22] <Ilyas> haha `ifup: unknown interface enp0s10`
2144 [16:07:31] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: IIUC, it just causes signals
to be set to applications (e.g. Network Manager) when the interface
is unplugged. Not really critical.
2145 [16:07:31] <Ilyas> so something is not quite adding up
2146 [16:07:36] <Pegasus_RPG> yeah
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2148 [16:07:38] * Pegasus_RPG scratches head
2149 [16:07:48] <Ilyas> can we blame virtualbox?
2150 [16:07:57] <Ilyas> well, I dont mind either way :)
2151 [16:08:01] <Ilyas> brb hacking interfaces
2152 [16:08:06] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: no, because both interfaces
are showing up in lspci
2153 [16:08:13] <Pegasus_RPG> so VBox is working correctly
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2155 [16:08:45] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: if ip addr lists them both,
then maybe you just need to restart the VM
2156 [16:09:00] <r4co0n> Barones, "apt-file search
wine.desktop" would have also helped, it shows all packages
providing a file ending with "wine.desktop"
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2158 [16:09:27] <Barones> Nice, I appreciate the help
2159 [16:09:28] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: also, if you want them both
to come up on boot, add "auto ethX" in
/etc/network/interfaces
2160 [16:10:05] <Barones> apt-file didn't work for me
2161 [16:10:05] <Ilyas> ya thanks
2162 [16:10:14] <Pegasus_RPG> er you know, "auto
enp0s10" and "auto enp0s3"
2163 [16:10:18] <Barones> I use apt search to look for packages
2164 [16:10:20] <Ilyas> editing the interface file and kicking the
networking service seem to be working
2165 [16:10:25] <Ilyas> w00! thanks
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2168 [16:10:41] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: you're welcome. Do try
rebooting the VM to make sure it does what you want on boot
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2170 [16:11:14] <Ilyas> doign so now
2171 [16:11:29] <Barones> lo, I just looked for it, it isn't
pre installed in debian
2172 [16:11:55] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: I use
replaced-url
2173 [16:12:04] <Barones> I need to know how packages work better
r4co0n
2174 [16:12:20] <Barones> nice Pegasus_RPG just learned that now
2175 [16:12:38] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: e.g. click Search for
Packages and enter wine.deskop
2176 [16:12:55] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: er I mean Search the
contents of packages
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2179 [16:13:50] <Ilyas> Pegasus_RPG: a reboot broke both eth
interfaces :(
2180 [16:13:57] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: On that note, install the
apt-file package to get that functionality
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2182 [16:14:03] <Barones> Pegasus_RPG, sorry for asking, but a
meta-package is only a script that install dependencies to a
package?
2183 [16:14:04] <Ilyas> at least, I cant manage them via the GUI
anymore
2184 [16:14:15] <r4co0n> Pegasus_RPG, check
replaced-url
2185 [16:14:17] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: Did you add the auto lines to
interfaces?
2186 [16:14:26] <Ilyas> yea, sec
2187 [16:14:35] <r4co0n> I mean Barones, check
replaced-url
2188 [16:14:42] <r4co0n> Sorry Pegasus_RPG
2189 [16:15:00] <Pegasus_RPG> np
2190 [16:15:07] <Ilyas> oh wait, it does seem to be working
2191 [16:15:13] <Ilyas> but the GUI is confused about it
2192 [16:15:24] <Ilyas> well, that's a minor issue
2193 [16:15:26] <Pegasus_RPG> Barones: it's a package that
doesn't install anything but merely depends on other packages
that provide the thing
2194 [16:15:48] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: yeah, you may now need to
edit your network profiles in Network Manager
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2197 [16:16:04] <Ilyas> how do I go about that? is that a gui
thing or a cli?
2198 [16:16:09] <Pegasus_RPG> Or just remove Network Manager
altogether if that suits you
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2200 [16:16:44] <Pegasus_RPG> oh geez, I'm getting confused
between Network manager and KDE's network connection manager
GUI
2201 [16:16:47] <Pegasus_RPG> sec
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2203 [16:17:04] <Ilyas> yeah, the docs pages are giving me
headaches
2204 [16:17:08] <Ilyas> but dont worry about it for now
2205 [16:17:19] <Ilyas> my VM has connectivity so I'm all
helped for now
2206 [16:17:21] <Ilyas> thanks again :)
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2209 [16:17:47] <Ilyas> oh here "NetworkManager will only
handle interfaces not declared in /etc/network/interfaces"
2210 [16:17:52] <Ilyas> that does explain a thing or two
2211 [16:18:06] <Ilyas> since I declared them now, they show up as
unmanaged
2212 [16:18:09] <Ilyas> lolol
2213 [16:18:10] <Pegasus_RPG> Ilyas: no problem. But yeah, if you
don't need to change things around much now that you're
connected, you could just remove/disable network-manager completely
2214 [16:18:25] <Pegasus_RPG> really strange it didn't just
work for you out of the box though
2215 [16:19:06] <Pegasus_RPG> e.g. I don't have it installed
on my servers
2216 [16:19:20] <Pegasus_RPG> Since their network config remains
static once set up
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2221 [16:21:13] <Ilyas> yeah, this isnt a prod box
2222 [16:21:20] <Ilyas> normall I wouldnt even have a gui
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2226 [16:24:43] <r4co0n> Someone should really go over
replaced-url
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2250 [16:37:04] <frikinz> They've been partially removed
replaced-url
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2267 [16:44:52] <likcoras> So I think I got a /56 routed to me by
following this
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2270 [16:45:57] <likcoras> 'ip a' gives me
2001:stuff::1/56 on this interface.
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2298 [16:58:49] <Emil> I'm experiencing kvm permission issues
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2301 [16:59:46] <Emil> The error I'm getting is: Could not
access KVM kernel module: Permission denied\nfailed to initialize
KVM: Permission denied
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2304 [17:00:11] <Emil> Here's the command I'm trying:
qemu-system-x86_64 -kernel $top/build/linux/arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage
-initrd $top/build/initramfs-busybox.cpio.gz -nographic -append
"console=ttyS0" -enable-kvm
2305 [17:00:20] <Emil> $top is defined correctly
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2315 [17:04:12] <NCS_One> hi
2316 [17:06:21] <NCS_One> anyone know how can I have fullscreen on
debian stretch installed on virtualbox?
2317 [17:07:06] <greycat> you probably want the "vbox guest
extensions"
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2319 [17:08:39] <armin> mh, so i have this wireshark installed
which uses qt. my whole desktop is DARK but wireshark is hurting my
eyes. do i have any way to make that thing dark?
2320 [17:08:50] <greycat> dpkg stretch-vbox-guest
2321 [17:08:50] <dpkg> i heard stretch-vbox-guest is Ilyas> oh,
I got it working! I followed this guide
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2326 [17:14:02] <NCS_One> I have it working now, thanks
2327 [17:14:18] <NCS_One> was missign the
"build-essentials"
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2341 [17:22:26] <r4co0n> babilen, was afk, but: what?
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2354 [17:29:24] <Ilyas> uhoh
2355 [17:29:34] <Ilyas> im stuck in the system!
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2362 [17:32:44] <babilen> r4co0n: You mentioned changes to the
wiki
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2389 [17:47:37] <r4co0n> babilen, and 'Knock yourself
out" is supposed to mean "Go at it (and rewrite the rest
of it too)" or what?
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2396 [17:49:52] <greycat> "Knock yourself out" means
"Go ahead. I don't necessarily think it's a good
idea, but it's your life." Or something close to that.
2397 [17:49:53] <OS-36731> Hello everyone
2398 [17:50:05] <OS-36731> anyone ever had a issue with openvpn
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2400 [17:50:20] <babilen> Well, I think editing the wiki to
reflect current best practices is a great idea
2401 [17:50:22] <OS-36731> it asks for auth without first
prompting for a user name
2402 [17:50:25] <babilen> It just needs someone to do it
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2407 [17:52:38] <netcat> maybe it just wants the password to the
key, OS-36731
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2409 [17:53:30] <annadane> "knock yourself out" = drink
heavily
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2412 [17:55:04] <babilen> It just means "do as you
please"
2413 [17:55:27] <annadane> "do as you please" = drink
heavily
2414 [17:56:14] <babilen> Are you Finnish?
2415 [17:56:33] <babilen> Anyway .. this is not really the best
topic for #debian
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2417 [17:56:39] <r4co0n> Thanks for clarification, I think I got
it right.
2418 [17:57:17] * netcat finds humor in these remarks
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2422 [17:58:10] * greycat wonders what the hell r4co0n and babilen are
talking about, scrolls up a bit, sees nothing, tries /lastlog
r4co0n, sees gnome-desktop-item-edit, stops wondering or caring
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2424 [17:58:50] <r4co0n> armin, you might want to look at
qt5-style-plugins, it seems to provide additional theming for qt
apps and talks about environment variable QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME for
setting the theme.
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2430 [18:00:49] <greycat> the previous discussion was over 2 hours
ago, so yeah, I didn't scroll up that far before giving up and
trying /lastlog
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2433 [18:02:29] <r4co0n> It's 157 lines from the original
message to stopping to use "<nick>,"
2434 [18:02:53] <greycat> You have no way of knowing how many
other channels and event-messages I've got in this window in
the last 2.25 hours.
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2466 [18:21:50] <aexl> hi how do i disable automatic download of
newer packages?
2467 [18:22:21] <greycat> I have been told "dpkg-reconfigure
unattended-upgrades"
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2473 [18:23:49] <aexl> greycat: it asks for "automatic
download AND install". and no was already chosen.
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2475 [18:24:46] <aexl> it used to work for me when disabled
through dconf. but with upgrading from wheezy to stretch it
downloads again.
2476 [18:25:11] <greycat> Another thing you may want to
investigate is removing or disabling 'packagekit'.
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2483 [18:29:20] <aexl> apt-get remove packagekit \The following
packages will be REMOVED:\ gnome-core gnome-software packagekit
packagekit-tools
2484 [18:29:56] <annadane> apt-mark manual gnome-core
gnome-software (probably)
2485 [18:29:57] <greycat> ,info gnome-core
2486 [18:29:58] <judd> Package gnome-core (metapackages, optional)
in stretch/amd64: GNOME Desktop Environment -- essential components.
Version: 1:3.22+3; Size: 24.2k; Installed: 32k; Screenshot:
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2489 [18:30:09] <greycat> It's 32k. It's a meta-package.
2490 [18:30:13] <JackK> Is it grub that creates vmlinuz and
initramfs-linux symlinks? Anyone know how I can add that to my
configuration?
2491 [18:30:15] <nadersith> good evening
2492 [18:30:16] <marsje> I wonder how it is possible that if I do
"apt remove libssl1.0.0" it also removings applications
like squirrelmail and python2.6?
2493 [18:30:16] <annadane> ah.
2494 [18:30:30] <greycat> marsje: then don't remove it
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2497 [18:30:50] <marsje> greycat: I expected a message like: you
can't remove because this and that depends on it
2498 [18:31:13] <greycat> that is precisely what "dpkg
--remove libssl1.0.0" will tell you.
2499 [18:31:30] <greycat> apt remove will offer to remove more
stuff for you, and prompt for confirmation
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2503 [18:32:45] <marsje> greycat: the output of dpkg makes more
sense to me
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2511 [18:34:19] <marsje> greycat: it does also show me all those
packages depends on libssl >= 1.0.0, and libssl1.0.2 is also
installed
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2513 [18:34:59] <greycat> libssl1.0.0 and libssl1.0.2 are
DIFFERENT packages
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2516 [18:35:08] <greycat> ii libssl1.0.0:am 1.0.1t-1+deb amd64
Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - sh
2517 [18:35:09] <greycat> ii libssl1.0.2:am 1.0.2l-2+deb amd64
Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - sh
2518 [18:35:22] <netcat> apt-mark manual... and i've been
doing --reinstall all this time to get the same result
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2521 [18:35:52] <marsje> greycat: ah ok
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2533 [18:43:34] <capin> hello 👋 , I recently started tinkering
with cron jobs, and I setup a cron job for my particular user on my
debian box, I created the job by running `crontab -u capin -e` which
creates a file in the `/tmp` folder. Is there anyway I run this
cronjob, ie. "right now" kind of like how the `run-parts`
command can run the scripts / jobs in `/etc/cron.daily` when
invoked?
2534 [18:44:18] <greycat> capin: the temp file is only used
temporarily, by your text editor. Once you save, the contents get
copied to the REAL place, and the temp file is removed.
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2536 [18:44:43] <capin> greycat: where is the "REAL"
place?
2537 [18:44:50] <greycat> If you want to test a crontab entry,
schedule it to run a minute or two from now, and wait. No other test
will be actually useful.
2538 [18:45:17] <greycat> Manually running the same command from
your shell is NOT a useful test, because it runs with your
interactive shell environment instead of cron's bare bones
environment.
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2542 [18:46:12] <capin> hmmm
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2546 [18:48:05] <capin> is there not a way to invoke a cronjob
using the "bare bones environment" without adjusting the
time the job is run?
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2594 [19:15:30] <Kobaz> sooooo
2595 [19:15:42] <Kobaz> systemd.... /etc/init.d/openvpn restart [
ok ] Restarting openvpn (via systemctl): openvpn.service.
2596 [19:15:50] <Kobaz> but it doesn't do anything...
it's not actually restarting it
2597 [19:16:06] <Kobaz> it's got the same pid before and
after
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2600 [19:16:23] <greycat> does it work if you use systemctl
restart, instead of the init.d script?
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2603 [19:16:42] <Kobaz> it does actually
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2619 [19:23:25] <kion> If I changed something in my /etc/hosts how
can I make my System take the changes without having to reboot?
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2621 [19:24:45] <greycat> The only time you would need to reboot
for a change to /etc/hosts is if you have some long-running service
that cached it (e.g. nfs-kernel-server). In which case you could
just restart that one service instead.
2622 [19:25:10] <greycat> Otherwise, anything that reads
/etc/hosts does so on demand.
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2636 [19:32:55] <kion> greycat, so I just blocked Facebook by
adding 0.0.0.0 facebook.com as stated here'replaced-url
2637 [19:33:21] <kion> is there a way to know how many times that
host was tried? I guess maybe with iptables?
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2639 [19:33:35] <capin> greycat:
replaced-url
2640 [19:34:00] <greycat> What local processes on your Debian
computer are actually looking up that hostname? Are people using a
web browser on the Debian system?
2641 [19:34:36] <greycat> capin: ... huh? You wanted to run them
as someone else than yourself? Then put them in that other
person's crontab. Or put them in /etc/crontab with the username
field.
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2643 [19:35:44] <capin> no, i wanted to run them as myself
2644 [19:36:03] <greycat> Then I can't parse "run my
`user` scripts a `cron` user"
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2670 [19:53:30] <kion> Can Iptables process domain names instead
of ip addresses? like saying: iptables -A Output -d some.address.com
-j DROP ?
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2673 [19:54:28] <greycat> Is your Debian system actually the
router for your network?
2674 [19:54:40] <Junaos> kion: It can, but it will translate the
names when the rules are added, not when packets pass.
2675 [19:54:47] <Junaos> So if the IP for a DNS entry changes,
IPTables will not update.
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2677 [19:55:18] <greycat> At some point you have to provide
details.
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2693 [20:05:24] <kion> Junaos, Thanks! that works for me, as this
will be running on my laptop that reloads iptables every day
2694 [20:05:57] * greycat just gets more and more confused as this goes
on
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2696 [20:06:23] <greycat> Now it's a laptop? A single-user
machine that has no business acting as a server? Why not just *not
use facebook*?
2697 [20:07:21] <Junaos> kion: Good luck with blocking Facebook
that way (just scrolled up). Facebook has multiple IP addresses -- a
huge pool.
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2699 [20:07:37] <Junaos> And IPTables, IIRC, will only grab
whichever one resolves at that moment.
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2715 [20:15:04] <annadane> kion, privacytools.io, check out
browser extensions
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2718 [20:16:18] <t3st3r> greycat> facebook is also good at
placing damn buttons on each and every web site around... so even if
you do not use FB, it would use you :P
2719 [20:17:03] <kion> Junaos, annadane thanks, it is just a
little experiment, i don't have a FB account, and want to see
if I end up logging a few connections after using the internet
normally.
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2721 [20:17:31] <greycat> So now you don't actually want to
BLOCK facebook; you want to LOG connections made to it.
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2724 [20:17:36] <t3st3r> of course these little pests are using
cookies and generally track one down, even without account :)
2725 [20:17:42] <greycat> This would be a whole lot easier using
an http proxy.
2726 [20:18:06] <t3st3r> then set up http proxy? :)
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2728 [20:18:36] <greycat> itables works at the IP address level,
which as others have pointed out is not going to help you very much
in this case
2729 [20:18:45] <t3st3r> though HTTPS could be harder to
investigate
2730 [20:18:56] <greycat> an http proxy works at the domain level;
and yes, https would defeat that
2731 [20:19:20] <greycat> as more and more of the web moves to
https, proxies become more and more useless
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2734 [20:19:42] <Junaos> Honestly, the better solution would be to
blackhole the DNS for Facebook. Using something like PiHole.
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2736 [20:19:49] <Junaos> If you were actually trying to block, and
not just log, that is.
2737 [20:20:03] <t3st3r> you can try to feed that with own
self-signed cert if you added it to browser... but my guess would be
facebook buttons/badges/etc.
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2739 [20:20:21] <t3st3r> there're plenty of "login with
facebook" buttons and somesuch in the web.
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2742 [20:21:03] <t3st3r> so one can get connection to fb even
without using FB...
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2744 [20:21:35] <kion> annadane, Thanks for the tip! great page
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2746 [20:22:00] <kion> greycat, I want both, I want to block and
log the attempts
2747 [20:22:42] <t3st3r> then make it resolving to some fake
address and log all attempts to that fake? :)
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2752 [20:23:49] <greycat> Well yes, now that we know the problem
is "my web browser used only by me on this one machine",
then the /etc/hosts hack might actually have a chance, if you can
catch all of the hostnames that Facebook might use.
2753 [20:23:50] <kion> I just read this article that suggests
adding entries to your /etc/hosts as 0.0.0.0
whatever.facebook.address
2754 [20:24:03] <kion>
replaced-url
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2758 [20:24:45] <greycat> If there are a billion hostnames
*.facebook.com then you'd want to use a DNS nameserver level
hack instead of /etc/hosts.
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2760 [20:25:33] <kion> greycat, that makes sense, this is
becomming tougher than I thought
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2764 [20:26:30] <annadane> personally ublock origin and probably
https everywhere does all the stuff so i don't have to (there
are other extensions but they're not currently compatible with
firefox-esr in stretch)
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2768 [20:26:50] <t3st3r> they are hard to get rid of, I can
recommend ublock origin browser extension + some decent
"annoyances" or "social" filter.
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2770 [20:27:08] <kion> seems like something for Squid, although I
have never used it
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2795 [20:42:21] <KrisLT> every few weeks I face an error message
[(initramfs): /dev/sda1/ contrains a file system with errors...
UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck manualy]
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2799 [20:43:16] <KrisLT> after doing fsck on recovery mode, the
problem solves, and the system boots as usual for next few weeks,
and then occours again.
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2803 [20:44:07] <KrisLT> is there anything I could to avoid it or
further debug to find out the reasons why I get that error message?
2804 [20:44:16] <zPlus> hi, I'd like to install
"gnome-builder" from debian stable. Unfortunately,
it's pulling down this dependency
replaced-url
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2807 [20:44:58] <Tenkawa> zPlus: did you run apt-get update first
to make sure your libraries are up to date?
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2809 [20:46:18] <jhutchins_wk> ,v flatpack
2810 [20:46:19] <judd> No package named 'flatpack' was
found in amd64.
2811 [20:46:20] <Tenkawa> that needs to be run to make sure the
apt catalog/library is up to date
2812 [20:46:26] <jhutchins_wk> ,v flatpak
2813 [20:46:27] <judd> Package: flatpak on amd64 --
stretch-security: 0.8.5-2+deb9u1; jessie-backports:
0.8.9-0+deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.8.9-0+deb9u1; stretch-backports:
0.10.4-1~bpo9+1; buster: 0.11.3-3; sid: 0.11.3-3
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2815 [20:46:45] <t3st3r> KrisLT> could be wise to check what
exactly fsck fixes, eh?
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2818 [20:47:00] <t3st3r> like running it manually in
verbose/interactive mode, etc
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2826 [20:49:38] <jhutchins_wk> KrisLT: Install smartmontools and
enable it; watch dmesg for errors. If you're seeing errors
there, buy a new disk NOW. Check your bad blocks - if the count is
increasing, ditto, buy NOW.
2827 [20:49:44] <t3st3r> also dmesg could eventually give you some
hints... if things make no sense, check, say RAM.
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2838 [20:53:57] <KrisLT> jhutchins_wk, thx
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2874 [21:15:01] <Li> I've downloaded debian in 3 dvds ..
everytime I use apt it asks me "mostly" to insert dvd1
into /media/cdrom which I do. Then I notice some parts are bing
installed from dvd while others from
replaced-url
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2876 [21:15:31] <Li> the question, Is it possible to completely
intsall from dvds if I don't want any latest updates?
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2880 [21:16:00] <greycat> the obvious way would be to disconnect
the network cable
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2882 [21:16:04] <Li> I think debian is great for an offline distro
in that case, which is my problem with limited access to internet
2883 [21:16:27] <Li> greycat: yeah I can test that but I
don't break things on this installation
2884 [21:16:33] <lldd> maybe remove urls from
/etc/apt/sources.list
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2887 [21:17:59] <Li> ok let me rephrase my question, Are those
mentioned dvds supposed to represent/contain complete offline
repository for debian?
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2899 [21:23:09] <lldd> I don't think so, the complete
repository has more GB than the dvds
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2908 [21:25:25] <Li> lldd would be possible to grab the entire
repo on hdd? How if so? any tutorials?
2909 [21:26:14] <lldd> yes: Package: debmirror
2910 [21:26:20] <lldd> for instance
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2919 [21:34:10] <a_duck> i'm getting "Mesa DRI Unknown
Intel Chipset" as my GL_RENDERER, and a GL_VERSION of 1.3 in
this code:
replaced-url
2920 [21:35:00] <stacks88> my / partition has only 20 gb
allocated. its reaching 98% used, so i noticed that i have lots of
old files like /boot/initrd.img-3.13.*-generic -- can i just rm -f
these files, or is there a proper procedure i need to follow before
i can do taht? like clearly old files related to kernel that im not
even using anymore.. i use stock/distrib kernels
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2922 [21:36:01] <bryceml> I have a question, can you trust that a
udp or tcp packet with a source of either 127.0.0.1 or ::1 came from
the loopback interface and not from any external facing interface on
debian/linux?
2923 [21:36:16] <jhutchins_wk> stacks88: You can purge the old
kernels, that will clean up all of the associated files. 20G should
be plenty for the OS.
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2927 [21:37:05] <netcat> also, have you tried: sudo apt clean
2928 [21:38:07] <netcat> and is your /home on a separate
partition?
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2933 [21:40:14] <jhutchins_wk> stacks88: It's not a good idea
to arbitrarily delete files that were created by the system. Use the
management tools instead.
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2942 [21:45:48] <Tom_-> bryceml, i'm pretty sure
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2944 [21:45:53] <t3st3r> stacks88> use apt to purge outdated
kernels and also apt clean to clean up package cache.
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2947 [21:46:27] <t3st3r> bryceml> one can trick browser into
doing request to 127.0.0.1 for example.
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2951 [21:47:56] <t3st3r> so external resource could eventually
provoke undesired activity targeting 127.0.0.1 despite it being
unavailable from outside
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2958 [21:50:15] <kion> If I have libreoffice installed and want to
install the backports version, how should I do it? do I have to
remove and install, or just install the backports one? I don't
want to end with 2 libreoffices!
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2964 [21:51:36] <lechucknet> kion, your question is answer buy you
2965 [21:51:50] <hypn0> dud you install 1st on with debs?
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2968 [21:52:07] <lechucknet> package system works with different
programs in route, if you want to install a ne verwion and dont have
old one delete it first
2969 [21:52:15] <lechucknet> or do apt upgrade (package name)
2970 [21:52:16] <stacks88> t3st3r: for example i have
/boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-76-generic -- but when i do dpkg -l|grep
3.13.0-76 i see: linux-headers-3.13.0-76,
linux-headers-3.13.0-76-generic, linux-image-3.13.0-76-generic ,
linux-image-extra-3.13.0-76-generic, linux-tools-3.13.0-76,
linux-tools-3.13.0-76-generic.. so are you saying i should do
apt-get autoremove (each one of these)? or should i just do
"apt-get remove"
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2980 [21:54:38] <jhutchins_wk> kion: Just install the new package
according to the instructions on the backports web page.
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2982 [21:55:16] <jhutchins_wk> kion: The good thing about
backports is that the versioning works WITH the normal repos, so
upgrades will work smoothly.
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2988 [21:57:04] <t3st3r> stacks88> it depends if you can
autoremove that. But you can surely "purge". Make sure not
to purge your running kernel.
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2991 [21:58:20] <t3st3r> and then "clean" removes
downloaded deb packages, usually from /var/cache/apt/archives -
these take plenty of space as well
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3003 [22:03:16] <bryceml> thanks t3st3r
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3021 [22:15:02] <annadane> someone remind me how to switch from
nouveau -> nvidia and vice versa, i always forget (and need to
write it down for once)
3022 [22:15:13] <annadane> (i mean after installing the driver)
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3028 [22:16:40] <annadane> update-alternatives --config glx
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3030 [22:17:03] <annadane> !next
3031 [22:17:04] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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3107 [22:52:40] <argusbr> the license VMware Workstation can be
used in vmware esxi?
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3110 [22:53:39] <ksk> argusbr: this is #debian, please go ask
vmware
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3127 [23:01:44] <SpaceSenate> hello
3128 [23:02:04] <Tenkawa> hi
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3137 [23:04:49] <Tenkawa> ouch crashed pretty hard
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3149 [23:11:27] <rekt> Anyone use an OLED display?
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3151 [23:12:30] <rekt> Over 1000 people and nobody uses oled?
3152 [23:13:08] <rekt> this is a question about pixel mapping and
preserving the display in debian
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3155 [23:13:41] <Harm133> hey guys, where can I get makeisofs ? I
want to edit a file within an ISO which seems to be a pain in the
as...
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3158 [23:13:53] <rekt> Has anyone written a script to overlay a
black pixel grid to preserve the display?
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3160 [23:15:06] <axis_> i want to install a kernel package via a
script inside a chroot. but when i do this, it prompts me to install
grub to a device. how can i figure out the debconf settings that i
need to manipulate?
3161 [23:15:10] <rekt> Such as like this
replaced-url
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3163 [23:16:12] <rekt> The grid shifts every 5 minutes, blocking
light from alternating pixels
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3236 [23:51:46] <awal1> what should I be looking for if I want to
mount a removable media since boot?
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3238 [23:52:37] <awal1> if not wrong, udev is for internal stuff;
what about removable media stuff since boot (before login in X) ?
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3243 [23:53:56] <awal1> in my case , I am trying to find out how
to make my usb wifi adapter connect just like my internal wifi card
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3245 [23:54:39] <awal1> I mean make it connect to my home wifi
before login in X
3246 [23:55:12] <n4dir> awal1: my wifi-dongle (if that is the
name) get's recognized during boot. Why is beyond me, because
it always happens
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3253 [23:56:44] <n4dir> the connection happens through wicd (in my
case)
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3255 [23:57:04] <awal1> n4dir, if you boot right to virtual
console (tty) do es your usb adapter connects to wifi?
3256 [23:57:17] <awal1> some people calls it dongle something yeah
3257 [23:57:28] <awal1> hm, using nm here
3258 [23:58:03] <awal1> i'll try with wicd later so
3259 [23:58:10] <t3st3r> awal1> wi-fi is one thing and mount is
another. How do they are related at all?
3260 [23:59:04] <t3st3r> nm could start before X and without X and
it could apply connections I guess.
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3262 [23:59:30] <n4dir> awal1: yes, it does (as i always boot to
console, no display-manager). Usually it needs a bit of time though,
before it happened (less than a minute)
3263 [23:59:34] <t3st3r> to manually connect something using nm
connections you can try nmcli
3264 [23:59:56] <t3st3r> nmcli only needs nm running, it does not
needs X or something at all
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