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0[00:00:16] <how2down> Thx! :)
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2[00:00:41] <annadane> FWIW and it's entirely up to you
(along with the usual caveats of testing maybe breaking, don't
use it on mission critical stuff), i hear newer versions of KDE are
just as buggy
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3[00:01:14] <annadane> i know kde has a fast release cycle and
i don't know what features you want, but yeah, newer isn't
always better with regard to kde (or anything else; but kde
specifically feels like something that gets left behind in debian
unlike xfce or whatever)
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4[00:01:18] <annadane> (which is why i say this)
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7[00:01:42] <annadane> also, keep in mind that when you use as
a desktop with a lot of dependencies like kde does, it won't
all get migrated to testing at once, there will probably be delays
at some points
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8[00:01:50] <sponix> Unit193: yeah.. I might do something like
that... I want the whole qemu stack including libvirt, virt-manager
and so forth to be current from Sid... Kinda afraid I might get in
over my head, but at the same time almost wanna sake screw it and go
for it :P
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10[00:02:00] <how2down> Ye, i distrohopped from Ubuntu to Mint
to Manjaro and want the deb packages back
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11[00:02:10] <how2down> And manjaro does kde reaaally well
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12[00:02:19] <how2down> So i just want some too
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13[00:02:42] <annadane> so you'll get some kde packages
but then some might be delayed and you'll have
half-a-newer-desktop with some older components
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14[00:03:07] <Unit193> sponix: Honestly, doesn't sound fun
at all.
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15[00:03:14] <annadane> how2down,
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16[00:03:19] <how2down> Ye, i just want seminew kde and
packages, thats why ill be testing
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17[00:03:30] <sponix> Unit193: that entirely depends on your
ideal of fun ;)
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18[00:03:32] <how2down> I doubt ill notice the old/new mixup
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19[00:03:35] <joepublic> I'm sure it's just me, my
computer, or whatever, but I find the desktop environment formerly
known as KDE to be quite the reliable crash factory.
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20[00:03:49] <annadane> 3.1.7 was what i actually wanted to
link, not that, but just scroll down
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21[00:04:08] <sponix> how2down: Might as well just wipe and
install Sid to begin with -- Know a guy running Sid for a couple
months now and its done okay
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22[00:04:11] <annadane> (3.1.6 is also related, though)
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24[00:04:21] <sponix> how2down: who needs stability anyway ?
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25[00:04:51] <how2down> Eh, i might stick to manjaro if
stability is an issue, for rolling i had it for half a year and no
problems
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26[00:04:58] <joepublic> one generally installs sid by
upgrading stable.
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27[00:05:13] <sponix> joepublic: I'm xfce Debian stable.
Because for me I just want a light on resources DE to function, be
stable, and stay out of my way
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28[00:05:13] <how2down> Or maybe ill install debian as 2nd boot
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29[00:05:31] <Unit193> sponix: Xfce 4.14 is so much more fun
though!
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30[00:05:35] <sponix> joepublic: Oh really.. I keep forgetting
that
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31[00:05:47] <Unit193> joepublic: One can use
debootstrap/mmdebstrap to just install testing/unstable.
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32[00:05:51] <annadane> the thing with testing/sid is it
isn't a true rolling release; manjaro et al are meant to be
*releases* and while you can use debian testing/sid (unstable), its
main point is to become the eventual stable, so you won't
always get the bleeding edge of what you might want bleeding edge
(or just generally newer) versions of
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33[00:05:56] <sponix> Unit193: because the version number is
higher than 4.12 ?
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34[00:06:15] <Unit193> sponix: If you do multimonitor stuff,
the support in 4.14 is much better.
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35[00:06:32] <joepublic> 4.14 does have scaling for hidpi
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36[00:06:35] <sponix> Unit193: lol ... well lucky I am poor
enough to only run one panel
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37[00:06:55] <how2down> Ye, i dont need bleeding edge, i just
dont want stable old packages
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38[00:07:08] <how2down> Kinda like manjaro stable
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39[00:07:23] <annadane> idk how pacman works but i imagine
something like manjaro meant to be rolling might do transitions
better
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40[00:07:38] <annadane> whereas like i said in debian in
testing and sid something transition wise is half-installable
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41[00:07:51] <annadane> especially testing
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42[00:07:52] <econeuler> how2down: Why do you want to run
debian?
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45[00:08:13] <how2down> As said, i just seem to find soft i
want/need more often in deb
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46[00:08:16] <Unit193> annadane: KDE/etc transitions tend to
get held up in unstable, so you get them basically all at the same
time in testing.
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48[00:08:45] <annadane> yeah, that's also true, and
mirrors my experience using kde in sid
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49[00:09:08] <annadane> first you wait months for qt to be
updated, then for them to decide which version of kde to include in
sid, *then* you wait more, *then* you eventually get t
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50[00:09:11] <annadane> get it*
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51[00:09:33] <annadane> anyway, *hums along happily on xfce
4.12*
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52[00:09:57] <sparky4> should i upgrade to debian 11 to fix my
pointer trackpoint issue?
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53[00:10:07] <sponix> annadane: yeah, I'm sure that .02
worth isn't that huge
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54[00:10:07] <annadane> only if you know updating would fix it
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55[00:10:17] <how2down> I just love kde connect and that i can
turn off my laptop from another room from my phone when i get to
stoned to leave the couch haha
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57[00:10:44] <annadane> i'm surprised they don't call
it kde konnect
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58[00:10:52] <sponix> how2down: I leave my rig and laptop
running 24/7
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59[00:10:58] <sponix> annadane: they probably do
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61[00:11:15] <how2down> Its probably in the works haha
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64[00:12:08] <how2down> well, the isos written, ill be off,
will report back
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65[00:12:24] <annadane> sparky4, i guess my first guess in
situations like that would be "maybe it's fixed with the
debian backported kernel", but i have no idea about your
specific case
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66[00:12:31] <Unit193> sparky4: I do not wish to be rude,
though in general I'd say if one has to ask if one should
upgrade to testing/unstable, the answer is likely 'no'.
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69[00:13:12] <Unit193> It *might* fix a problem, but it's
also likely to come with headaches if one hasn't used it
before.
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70[00:13:54] <sponix> sure.. backport kernel is like 5.4.19
right now... Giving that a shot for a hardware possible fix.. why
not :)
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72[00:14:21] <Unit193> That being said, wireguard is being
inserted into the backports kernel, which is amazing.
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73[00:14:24] <sponix> I'm running that kernel right now
just because I like higher version numbers
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81[00:17:14] <sponix> Unit193: surely if they rebuild the whole
libreoffice for shits and giggles, someone would like to do my
virtualization setup, riiight ?
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116[00:25:00] <sponix> Unit193: well from a security standpoint
I hear that is very good
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122[00:26:01] <sponix> Unit193: question is, is virtualization a
big enough deal for enough people to warrant backports. Or am I just
a niche
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132[00:27:10] <Unit193> sponix: It's linked off of
backports.debian.org.
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133[00:27:26] <sparky4> ok i will test the kernel and see if it
works
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143[00:30:14] <sponix> Unit193: the mailing list -- Yeah,
I'm going to sub to it now. Thanks
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146[00:30:23] <Unit193> Sure thing.
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156[00:34:08] <Unit193> sponix: Do you do a fair bit of personal
backporting?
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167[00:36:34] <sponix> Unit193: the only thing I've needed
to backport so far was rtorrent from 0.9.7 to 0.9.8 .. It only had
like 2/3 deps
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169[00:37:05] <sponix> Unit193: so no, I haven't done a
fair bit, just that one, the one time
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179[00:40:21] <sponix> Unit193: I already know what they are
gonna come back and tell me when I put in the request... lol "
sounds great, do it yourself " ;)
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192[00:44:14] <sponix> Unit193: know what.. Think I'll do a
fresh VM for this one, do the building in there, that way if I break
something my Host OS will be fine :)
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194[00:44:39] <Unit193> sponix: sbuild/pbuilder is a great
option without the weight of a VM.
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195[00:44:51] <Unit193> Also, look into mini-dinstall/aptly.
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198[00:46:06] <sponix> Unit193: I will look into that. But for
right now I'm gonna try the vm + ssbp option from the bot :)
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199[00:46:09] <sponix> !ssb
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200[00:46:09] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install
build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source
packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation
options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid
see <uupdate>.
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209[00:48:36] <how2down> Done installing, guess ill search how
to switch to testing :)
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216[00:51:55] <annadane> how2down, if you have questions about
it then #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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217[00:52:01] <how2down> My mouse pointer speed seems to be
fixed in the touchpad settings, how do i fix it?
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221[00:52:45] <annadane> no clue, not a kde user
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223[00:55:27] <sponix> Unit193: I know a VM seems heavy for what
I'm doing... But my rig is overkill so I am use to using them
for a lot of things :)
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224[00:55:31] <how2down> Where can i edit the sudoers file so i
can sudo?
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225[00:55:46] <joepublic> visudo
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227[00:56:31] <how2down> vi sudo?
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228[00:56:32] <sparky4> nope dose not work
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229[00:56:38] <sparky4> should i upgrade?
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230[00:56:44] <joepublic> visudo
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232[00:57:15] <how2down> thats not a command for me if u meant
me
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233[00:57:30] <sponix> Unit193:
replaced-url
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236[00:57:39] <joepublic> `/sbin/visudo`
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238[00:57:57] <sparky4> my pointer thing dose not work still
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239[00:58:03] <how2down> Ok, thx
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240[00:58:24] <trek00> how2down: you can also add your user to
the sudo group
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242[00:58:51] <how2down> trek00 how?
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245[00:59:50] <trek00> how2down: usermod -a -G sudo yourusername
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247[01:00:33] <how2down> usermod isnt a command or do i not
understand
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248[01:00:35] <joepublic> dpkg, tell how2down about su
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249[01:00:48] <trek00> how2down: you need to run it as root
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251[01:01:00] <how2down> oh, ofc lmao
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253[01:01:16] <themill> also just "adduser youruser
sudo"
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254[01:01:24] <sparky4> my pointer is so broken!!! ghaaah
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257[01:01:57] <trek00> sparky4: it's too fast?
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259[01:02:05] <sparky4> it dose not move
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260[01:02:13] <how2down> Ok neither usermod nor adduser work
with sudo
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262[01:02:15] <sparky4> i did a modprobe of psmouse and it is
now detected
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263[01:02:23] <how2down> and visudo is jibberish in kate
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264[01:02:23] <sparky4> but fails to move
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266[01:02:33] <joepublic> how2down, didn't dpkg just tell
you about su?
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267[01:02:49] <how2down> Oh, i didnt notice the channel pop up
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270[01:03:48] <joepublic> these commands are in /sbin, so they
won't be in your path with su unless you `su -` or `su -l`
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271[01:03:53] <how2down> Ok, so basically sudo is su?
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272[01:03:56] <sponix> how2down: umm, sure Sid is right for you?
Seems you are struggling with the basics bro
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273[01:04:02] <joepublic> no, sudo is not su.
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274[01:04:16] <how2down> I dont want unstable
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275[01:04:18] <sparky4> trek00: it is stuck
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278[01:04:38] <trek00> sparky4: do you reastarted X11?
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279[01:04:43] <how2down> I just want a semi-up-to-date debian
with kde, dont hate
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282[01:04:59] <sponix> annadane: well I put in my request for a
virtualization backport to be done... I'll give it a few days,
see what I get for a response. And if needed, just do it my damn
self :)
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284[01:05:07] <sparky4> trek00: oh how?
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285[01:05:31] <trek00> sparky4: well, may be try to logout and
login again
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288[01:05:32] <sparky4> ./etc/init.d/lightdm restart?
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290[01:05:35] <sparky4> ok
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293[01:06:33] <how2down> Ok, i figured it out, this is
comfortable, i just never used root as user outside of sudoing
commands, thx
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299[01:08:26] <sponix> first thing is to install Debian though,
I would guess -- doing that now
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300[01:08:48] <sparky4> trek00: still stuck
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303[01:09:33] <sparky4> sigh
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304[01:09:36] <trek00> sparky4: sorry i don't know how to
debug a sticky pointer
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305[01:09:48] <sparky4> i8t is a mouse pointer device
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310[01:10:48] <trek00> sparky4: may be unplug an plug again the
mouse?
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311[01:11:17] <afidegnum> anyone familiar with samba4 dns
settings please? i have an existing remote dns server, how do i
configure to match current configurations?
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312[01:11:24] <sparky4> it is built into the laptop
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313[01:11:29] <sparky4> i know it works
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314[01:11:36] <sparky4> it worked in debian 9
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315[01:11:48] <trek00> sparky4: sometimes unplug and replug
causes events to be processed
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318[01:12:48] <sponix> how2down:
replaced-url
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319[01:12:49] <sponix> how2down: if you can't follow the
usermod as root there -- you might as well call it a day
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320[01:12:59] <trek00> sparky4: may be /etc/X11/xorg.conf points
to the wrong device?
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321[01:13:05] <sparky4> lets see
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325[01:14:44] <ThinkDao> Hi all, there is a way to protect
packages from being removed from a system?
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326[01:15:00] <annadane> ThinkDao, apt-mark manual
<package>
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327[01:15:03] <trek00> ThinkDao: you can mark them as manually
installed
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330[01:17:27] <ThinkDao> annadane & trek00 even using that
command they are in the list of "packages to be removed"
.. no other way ? Or maybe I should just let Debian remove them and
then reinstall them again?
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332[01:17:52] <annadane> not sure why, according to my current
knowledge that shouldn't be happening
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333[01:17:55] <annadane> maybe someone else knows more
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334[01:17:58] <trek00> ThinkDao: may be you are installing a
package conflicting with those removed?
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335[01:18:15] <annadane> ^
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337[01:19:05] <how2down> sponix2ipfw I checked with id, have
sudo, but cant sudo- wtf?
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338[01:19:20] <ThinkDao> trek00: Not sure why.. pulseaudio can
work without X and mplayer as well. Even ffmpeg can.. while is a
pre-compiled packages.. maybe ffmpeg is a X dependecy?
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340[01:20:01] <trek00> what package are you installing an what
package it removes?
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342[01:20:12] <abrotman> use paste.debian.net to show us
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343[01:20:17] <sparky4> should i upgrade to debian testing to
see if it works?
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344[01:20:26] <sparky4> i think it is something wrong with the
x11
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345[01:20:31] <ThinkDao> trek00: I am truing to remove all X
packages.
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346[01:20:58] <trek00> sparky4: only if your hardware is really
new (less than 1-2 years)
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347[01:21:46] <trek00> ThinkDao: if you are using aptitude,
launch it with -R to disable recommends, it will be simpler
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348[01:21:59] <how2down> sponix I checked with id, have sudo,
but cant sudo- wtf?
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350[01:22:25] <trek00> how2down: try sudo id
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351[01:22:46] <trek00> how2down: what it prints?
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352[01:22:54] <how2down> same output
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353[01:23:07] <trek00> how2down: paste it
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355[01:23:26] <sponix2ipfw> how2down: login as root. Do the
usermod command as /sbin/usermod blah blah blah
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356[01:23:31] <how2down> root@mg:~# sudo id mguid=1000(mg)
gid=1000(mg)
groups=1000(mg),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),109(netdev),112(bluetooth),118(lpadmin)
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358[01:23:48] <how2down> Literally in sudo
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360[01:23:53] <how2down> group
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361[01:24:05] <trek00> how2down: why do you want to run sudo
when you alreay root?
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362[01:24:13] <sponix2ipfw> sponix2ipfw: exit root. Login to
your user. And then use sudo
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364[01:24:27] <how2down> Dont want to root every time i just
want to sudo a command
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365[01:24:35] <how2down> As said
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366[01:24:40] <how2down> It doesnt sudo on user
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367[01:24:47] <sponix2ipfw> trek00: because he is full of fail.
lol
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368[01:24:54] <trek00> :)
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369[01:24:54] <sparky4> trek00: it is from 2014
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370[01:25:05] <trek00> how2down: we can't help you without
the error messages
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371[01:25:14] <sparky4> debian 10 has been horrid on my older
hardware
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372[01:25:37] <how2down> mg@mg:~$ sudo apt update[sudo] password
for mg: mg is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be
reported.
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373[01:25:50] <trek00> sparky4: it should run fine, but may be
you can rename your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old and
try again
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374[01:25:55] <ThinkDao> what player is only for audio ? not for
video ?
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375[01:26:16] <sponix> how2down: no shit. because you
didn't run the proper usermod command as root, then switch to
the user
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376[01:26:40] <sparky4> ok
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377[01:26:53] <how2down> I ran usermod -aG mg from root alrdy
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378[01:26:59] <trek00> ThinkDao: you can try cmus
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380[01:27:17] <sponix> how2down: umm that isn't the correct
command bro
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381[01:27:26] <hemimaniac> ThinkDao: rhythmbox,clementine
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384[01:27:47] <sponix> how2down: usermod -aG sudo mg
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385[01:27:49] <how2down> usermod -aG sudo mg, yesyes
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386[01:28:04] <sponix> how2down: did that run without issues ?
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389[01:28:14] <ThinkDao> hemimaniac: those use X .. why
pulseaudio have X libraries as dependency ? :o
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390[01:28:22] <joepublic> then ... this bit is important ...
next time (not this time) you log in as your user, you have sudo
access
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392[01:28:31] <how2down> Yes, and i checked with id that im in
the sudo group
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393[01:28:32] <trek00> ThinkDao: pulseaudio is evil :)
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394[01:28:36] <how2down> And it wont sudo :)
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395[01:28:46] <trek00> how2down: what error message?
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396[01:29:01] <joepublic> how2down ... this bit is important ...
next time (not this time) you log in as your user, you have sudo
access
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398[01:29:07] <how2down> No error message, as posted, just not
in the suoers file
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399[01:29:18] <sponix> how2down: reboot the rig, then it will
work :)
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400[01:29:27] <how2down> Thank for not being condescending after
i told u the same shit the 2nd time :)
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401[01:29:43] <how2down> Ill go reboot :)
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402[01:29:49] <sponix> joepublic: Yeah, he hasn't fully
logged out and back in.. just telling him "reboot" is
easier though
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404[01:30:00] <sponix> how2down: good, then I'll try to
quit giving you shit
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405[01:30:01] <oldborow> hi everyone
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407[01:30:15] <oldborow> F
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409[01:30:35] <joepublic> telling someone to "reboot"
for something other than a new kernel is a little bit evil. But I
see your point in this instance and did not even feel the least bit
tempted to argue.
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410[01:30:46] <oldborow> i just want to test this irc technology
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411[01:31:06] <ThinkDao> WOW .. removing mplayer + ffmpeg made
Debian remove dhcp ( Debian is EVIL )
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412[01:31:31] <trek00> oldborow: you can write and we all read
:)
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413[01:31:36] <sponix> joepublic: I know its all kinds of
wrong.. But at this point, did I really care ? lol
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417[01:32:06] <ThinkDao> then I need to set a static IP to
connect againt and update this system or I should just don't
use DEbian at all ?
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418[01:32:09] <ThinkDao> :D
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420[01:32:30] <how2down> Now it works :)
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421[01:32:31] <trek00> ThinkDao: it's really weird
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422[01:32:37] <ThinkDao> true
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423[01:32:45] <joepublic> you have the steps reversed, imo.
first, stop using debian if it conflicts with your deeply held
convictions, then do whatever else
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424[01:32:47] <ThinkDao> but now I have no dhcp
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425[01:32:50] <trek00> ThinkDao: i have many systems with dhcp
and without mplayer or ffmpeg
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426[01:33:10] <how2down> Thank you trek00 :)
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428[01:33:24] <abrotman> ThinkDao: have you put any of this in a
pastebin for us to review?
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429[01:33:26] <oldborow> Think Dao lol this is weird I've
never encountered this
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430[01:33:28] <trek00> how2down: me? :)
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431[01:33:39] <sponix> how2down: your welcome
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433[01:33:48] <how2down> *youre
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434[01:33:58] <ThinkDao> abrotman: not at all and now I
can't.. I am disconnected from that machine to internet
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435[01:34:06] <sponix> /kick how2down
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436[01:34:18] <how2down> LMAO
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437[01:34:20] <ThinkDao> in any case, Debian have wgetpaste
package?
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439[01:34:40] <ThinkDao> or similar.. I don't know
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440[01:35:00] <annadane> i see people mess up your and
you're all the time and it's terrible, there isn't
even 3 of them like there their and they're
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441[01:35:23] <Unit193> ThinkDao: pastebinit, or termbin.
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443[01:35:45] <how2down> Illiteracy is a global problem
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451[01:38:04] <joepublic> GNU/Linux illiteracy is a global
problem
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452[01:38:14] <joepublic> ftfy
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456[01:38:39] <oldborow> guys do you know about kolibri os??
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457[01:38:48] <abrotman> oldborow: hi, this is #debian
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458[01:39:02] <oldborow> i know
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459[01:39:39] <oldborow> but this is a live chat where I can ask
questions
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460[01:39:45] <oldborow> i think
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461[01:39:47] <abrotman> so is #kolibri
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462[01:39:51] <how2down> Sir, This Is an Arby's
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463[01:39:53] <abrotman> and no, we only support Debian here
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464[01:39:57] <oldborow> ok
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465[01:40:14] <tsarompy> oldborow: theres #debian-offtopic too
:P
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466[01:40:29] <abrotman> no
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467[01:40:33] <abrotman> that's not a support channel
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468[01:40:38] <abrotman> wtf is wrong with you
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470[01:40:45] <tsarompy> no need to be rude
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471[01:41:05] <tsarompy> i think they said that in reference to
this -> [18:38] <joepublic> GNU/Linux illiteracy is a
global problem
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472[01:41:12] * tsarompy shrug
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474[01:41:13] <oldborow> where i can find popular offtop
chates??
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475[01:41:22] <abrotman> See the topic in #debian-offtopic ..
it's clearly not a support channel
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476[01:41:31] <tsarompy> did i say 'go there for
support'
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477[01:41:50] <abrotman> ...
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478[01:42:22] <abrotman> oldborow: if you want random chat, you
can try ##chat also
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479[01:43:14] <oldborow> "Cannot send to nick/channel"
what this error means??
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480[01:43:23] <abrotman> it means you probably have to register
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481[01:43:35] <abrotman> oldborow: /msg nickserv help (or see
#freenode)
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484[01:43:50] <ThinkDao> I forget how to setup a static IP.. I
did reboot and yes, dhcliet was removed and dhcpcd as well.. lets
see if with a static IP I can solve this problem.
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487[01:45:02] <sponix> ThinkDao: it is possible with Debian
itself, and that is covered in the wiki -- BUT, I just do a static
lease at my router for my rigs. Lets them stay simple with dhcp,
while still always getting the same address
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488[01:45:08] <sponix> just a thought
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490[01:45:46] <ratrace> ThinkDao: first example in this chapter
replaced-url
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492[01:47:04] <ThinkDao> sponix: a lot of things did change.. I
see.. I need to edit a file to setup .. the old way doesn't
work anymore?
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493[01:47:30] <ratrace> "old way"?
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496[01:48:11] <ThinkDao> ifconfig ratrace: like > ifconfig
192.168.10.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0 ( for example )
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497[01:48:14] <sponix> ThinkDao: Yes, things have changed
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498[01:48:37] <ThinkDao> doesn't work :(
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500[01:49:51] <ratrace> ThinkDao: you have to install ifconfig.
it's superseded by iproute/ip
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501[01:50:12] <ratrace> but really, don't use it any more.
learn iproute, and use the interfaces(5) framework
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502[01:50:23] <ThinkDao> ratrace: yeah, I have ifconfig but not
ip (command )
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503[01:50:41] <ThinkDao> checking
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504[01:50:41] <ratrace> ThinkDao: which debian?
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506[01:51:29] <ThinkDao> ratrace: is pretty new.. kernel 4.19.98
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507[01:51:42] <trek00> ThinkDao: you should write: ifconfig eth0
192.168.10.10 netmask 255.255.255.0
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508[01:52:09] <ratrace> ThinkDao: if that's buster, then
you must have ip, and not ifconfig
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509[01:52:11] <ThinkDao> trek00: yeah, but it doesn't
assume to ip for the lan
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510[01:52:26] <ThinkDao> the ip*
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511[01:52:35] <sponix> ThinkDao: run: uname -a
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512[01:52:39] <sponix> Linux sponix 5.4.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
5.4.19-1~mx19+1 (2020-02-15) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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513[01:52:52] <sponix> hmm that isn't the one
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514[01:52:59] <ratrace> mx? MX?! MX?!?!?! get out!
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515[01:53:07] <trek00> :D
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516[01:53:19] <sponix> ThinkDao: I meant run: inxi -S
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517[01:53:31] <sponix> ThinkDao: that should tell you what
Debian version you are on
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518[01:53:49] <ThinkDao> sponix: inxi ( command not found )
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519[01:54:02] <sponix> ThinkDao: well then "apt install
inxi"
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520[01:54:07] <ratrace> ThinkDao: cat /etc/debian_version
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521[01:54:08] <ThinkDao> no ip ..
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523[01:54:10] <lwp> !mxlinux
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524[01:54:10] <dpkg> MX-18 Linux is based on Debian stretch;
MX-19 is based on Debian buster. However, MX Linux is not supported
in #debian. Seek help at
replaced-url
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525[01:54:13] <ThinkDao> no connection
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526[01:54:14] <sponix> if inxi isn't found, we know its
pretty old
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527[01:54:16] <ThinkDao> no updates
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528[01:54:19] <ThinkDao> no installs
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529[01:54:33] <ratrace> sponix: stop confusing them with
non-debian stuff
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531[01:54:35] <sponix> lol forgot, you networking is broken. apt
will not install anything
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532[01:54:49] <annadane> ThinkDao, just give the output of cat
/etc/debian_version
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533[01:55:06] <ThinkDao> annadane: 10.3
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534[01:55:11] <sparky4> ok the mouse buttons work no
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535[01:55:15] <sparky4> ok the mouse buttons work now**
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536[01:55:29] <sparky4> but the pointer still is stuck
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537[01:55:59] <sponix> ThinkDao: is this a fresh install, or an
upgrade from Jessie ?
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538[01:56:40] <ratrace> ThinkDao: you can use commands, but if
you want your config to persist on boot, use the interfaces(5)
framework, namely the /etc/network/interaces file, see the link I
gave you earlier
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540[01:57:28] <ThinkDao> sponix: a "fresh install" ..
lets assume that.. is a slow machine I did install X and I remove
all X stuff to clean it out, while cleaning remove some important
packages I believe
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542[01:58:01] <sponix> !why debian
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543[01:58:01] <dpkg> Debian strives to maintain your freedom
whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of
making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See
also
replaced-url
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544[01:58:07] <ThinkDao> ratrace: I will check that
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547[01:59:02] <oldborow> by the way guys what GUI do you use in
your debian systems
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548[01:59:14] <sponix> oldborow: xfce
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549[01:59:20] <ratrace> i3-wm
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551[01:59:31] <sponix> oldborow: with X from xorg pretty sure
(not wayland)
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552[01:59:56] <annadane> oldborow, xfce, but, try not to ask
general questions when people are asking support questions
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553[02:00:03] <annadane> that's a fantastic question for
#debian-offtopic
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554[02:00:11] <sponix> ratrace: have you tried
"Awesome" window manager ? I keep hearing good things
about it, but time never permits
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555[02:00:11] <oldborow> hah
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556[02:00:12] <oldborow> ok
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557[02:00:33] <annadane> i guess the support questions kinda
ended
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558[02:00:38] <annadane> i'm only half paying attention to
scrollback
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559[02:00:46] <trek00> sparky4: may be you can try to switch to
another console and then back to X11 (CTRL-ALT-F3 and then
CTRL-ALT-F1)
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560[02:00:51] <ratrace> sponix: haven't
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561[02:00:54] <annadane> or never mind.
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562[02:01:01] <sparky4> ok
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563[02:01:05] <sparky4> nope
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567[02:03:14] <trek00> sparky4: i'm sad i can't help
you, may be this can help in some way?
replaced-url
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572[02:05:50] <ThinkDao> I need to reboot again to have
connection?
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573[02:06:12] <ratrace> ThinkDao: no
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574[02:06:18] <ratrace> ThinkDao: restart the networking.service
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575[02:06:49] <ratrace> ThinkDao: assuming you configured the
/etc/network/interfaces file
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580[02:08:03] <ThinkDao> ratrace: /etc/init.d/netoworking
restart .. ok, but ping google.pt ( failure in name resolution )
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581[02:08:27] <ratrace> ThinkDao: learn to use systemd and the
systemctl command. /etc/init.d/ is going out of fashion fast
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582[02:08:28] <ThinkDao> mispell it /etc/init.d/networking
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586[02:09:09] <ThinkDao> I still us RC in other systems.. lets
see
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587[02:09:11] <ratrace> ThinkDao: well yes. when you set up
static networking you need to do several things that otherwise DHCP
would do for you. IP address, routes, and the resolver. You need to
configure /etc/resolv.conf for a rsolver of choice
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588[02:09:37] <ratrace> ThinkDao: but why are you insisting on
static configuration if you're apparently not familiar with
networking at all? why just not use your network's DHCP?
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590[02:10:18] <sparky4> ok
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591[02:10:37] <joepublic> ratrace, ThinkDao story is that
"debian is broken and removing unrelated packages also removed
dhcp" - this is a rescue attempt
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592[02:10:40] <ThinkDao> ratrace: please... this conversation is
about that problem
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593[02:10:49] <ThinkDao> dhcp was removed :D
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594[02:10:59] <ratrace> I see.
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595[02:11:22] <ThinkDao> it say's: systemd-networkd is not
running
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597[02:11:47] <ratrace> ThinkDao: do you know the IP of your
resolver in your network? it's probably the main router
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599[02:12:09] <ratrace> ThinkDao: systemd-networkd is an
entirely different method to manage network. since you're in
"rescue mode", please stay on track
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601[02:12:56] <ratrace> ThinkDao: so use your network's
router/resolver's IP, or google's 8.8.8.8 by setting
nameserver <ip address here> in /etc/resolv.conf
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602[02:12:58] <ThinkDao> ratrace: I was pointing to a different
dns, but I can setup the router up to
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604[02:13:25] <ThinkDao> ratrace: it was pointing to cloudflare
( 1.1.1.1 )
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606[02:13:49] <ratrace> thta's okay too if it works for
your
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608[02:14:07] <ratrace> *you
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612[02:16:06] <ThinkDao> hmm. ok.. there is some Good news.. I
can ping the router but the router don't let pings go outside
from that machine.. saying "network is unreachable" if I
ping google.com e.g
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619[02:17:36] <ThinkDao> so for this case I should setup the
router for it right ?
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620[02:18:04] <trek00> ThinkDao: try ping 4.4.4.4
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621[02:18:12] <trek00> not
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622[02:18:25] <trek00> ping 1.1.1.1
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623[02:18:45] <ratrace> ThinkDao: did you set up routing/default
gateway? What's your interfaces file like?
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625[02:18:49] <trek00> sparky4: what model is your laptop?
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626[02:18:51] <ThinkDao> same.. even if I try to ping 8.8.8.8 or
1.1.1.1, it tells me "network is unreacheble"
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628[02:19:02] <ThinkDao> trek00: yes
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629[02:19:56] <trek00> ThinkDao: check if you setup default
gateway: what it prints route | grep default?
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631[02:20:47] <ThinkDao> trek00: nothing
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632[02:21:09] <trek00> ThinkDao: good, type route add default gw
ip.address.of.your.router
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636[02:22:21] <ThinkDao> trek00: <3 ping is working .. glad
.. :D thank you so much !
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638[02:22:36] <sparky4> trek00: thinkpad t1440p
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644[02:25:04] <trek00> sparky4: it never worked on this setup?
or it just freeze after the first suspend?
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645[02:25:05] <sparky4> trek00: ok i am using my desktop for
this
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646[02:25:21] <trek00> ThinkDao: nice :)
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647[02:25:27] <sparky4> it never worked with debian buster
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648[02:25:44] <sparky4> my desktop'sgfx card dose not woith
with buster eiyhrer
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649[02:25:48] <sparky4> it is an old pci one
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650[02:25:59] <sparky4> buster is so frustrating
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653[02:26:43] <trek00> :/
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656[02:29:02] <trek00> sparky4: do you have installed
server-xorg-input-synaptics ?
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657[02:29:10] <trek00> sparky4: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
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658[02:29:15] <sparky4> syna[ptics is for touchpads
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659[02:29:35] <sparky4> let me see if there is a package for
thinkpad trackpoints
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662[02:32:00] <trek00> sparky4: may be there are error messages
in the logs? type dmesg | grep psmouse
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663[02:32:01] <sparky4> it is installed
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664[02:32:05] <sparky4> ok
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665[02:32:31] <sparky4> !
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666[02:32:38] <sparky4> i found something
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673[02:33:40] <ThinkDao> ok.. lets dive into the last problem..
pulseaudio try to install x11 libs that will not be used. alsa-utils
is installed but cmus report: Error opening audio device: no such
device.. there is no other way to have audio ?
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676[02:34:58] <sparky4_> ok
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677[02:35:00] <ThinkDao> I didn't knew this player.. thanks
for the tip.. seams pretty nice
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678[02:35:03] <sparky4_> [ 711.793224] psmouse serio4: Failed to
enable mouse on rmi4-02.fn03/serio0
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679[02:35:15] <sparky4_> trek00:
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680[02:35:26] <trek00> ThinkDao: check the card is recognized
with aplay -l
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682[02:36:55] <trek00> sparky4_ may be you laptop gone in
suspend mode, before you started X?
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683[02:36:58] <ThinkDao> yes, "both" are. there
generic one (hdmi) and the hda which should be the main one
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685[02:38:05] <trek00> ThinkDao: try with speaker-test -t wav
-c2
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689[02:39:53] <ThinkDao> ah ok.. this get me an error: ALSA lib
pcm_dmix.c:1108(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
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692[02:40:43] <sparky4_> trek00: no?
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693[02:40:58] <sparky4_> trek00: i restarted it multiple times
and the pointer is stuck
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694[02:41:07] <sparky4_> i cant usre the trackpoint still
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695[02:43:18] <trek00> ThinkDao: may be it select the wrong
device (hdmi is for digital output, the other for analog)
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700[02:44:34] <trek00> ThinkDao: you can try speaker-test -D
"hw:CARD=Generic,DEV=0" -c2
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703[02:45:09] <trek00> ThinkDao: with aplay -L you should get
all devices names to set with -D
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705[02:45:48] <sparky4_> [ 711.793224] psmouse serio4: Failed to
enable mouse on rmi4-02.fn03/serio0 trek00 this is the only thing i
got from dmesg
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707[02:45:51] <trek00> ThinkDao: this should print your model
name lspci -nn | grep -i audio
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708[02:46:43] <trek00> sparky4_: i don't have experience
with trackballs, but i read sometimes trackball go in conflict with
touchpad, bios settings and more
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711[02:47:36] <sparky4_> it has to be a conflict or something
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712[02:47:45] <trek00> ThinkDao: this is more specific: aplay -L
| grep ^hw:
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713[02:47:50] <sparky4_> let me see if it works on hardware
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714[02:47:54] <sparky4_> it should
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718[02:50:18] <ThinkDao> trek00: this is a AMD/ATI Azalia (
intel hda ) .. this is so weird.. amd + intel in the same machine
haha
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720[02:51:29] <trek00> ThinkDao: i have an amd intel hda too and
my board have two (virtual) cards: 0 and 1 and i must use card 1
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721[02:52:28] <ThinkDao> so I need to setup the one I wish to
use, which in this case is the second card ( hda intel ).. I
don't use hdmi
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724[02:54:52] <trek00> ThinkDao: first you need to discover the
one running fine
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725[02:55:08] <sparky4> rebooting dose nothing
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726[02:55:10] <trek00> ThinkDao: this will list devices: aplay
-L | grep ^hw:
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728[02:55:16] <sparky4> imma try one more thing
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729[02:55:20] <sparky4> bgefore upgrade
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730[02:55:24] <trek00> ThinkDao: the you should try with
speaker-test -D "devicename"
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731[02:55:25] <ThinkDao> disconnect? this is a laptop
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735[02:55:58] <trek00> ThinkDao: discover, to find
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736[02:56:39] <ThinkDao> sorry ..my bad, your spell it well
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737[02:57:33] <ThinkDao> hw:CARD=Generic,DEV=3 ||
hw:CARD=SB,DEV=0
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738[02:58:11] <trek00> ThinkDao: try both: speaker-test -D
"hw:CARD=Generic,DEV=3" -c2
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741[02:59:34] <ThinkDao> trek00: cool. This last one is
"doing something" but I cannot hear anything.. not sure if
is supposed to hear
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742[02:59:41] <OS-66968> /msg NickServ REGISTER
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743[03:00:07] <trek00> ThinkDao: it's noise, if you want a
voice try speaker-test -D "hw:CARD=Generic,DEV=3" -c2 -t
wav
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744[03:00:58] <trek00> ThinkDao: anyway may be your
/etc/asound.conf have something wrong
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745[03:01:05] <annadane> OS-66968, omit the space before /
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746[03:01:05] <sparky4> yeah it is a buster problem
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747[03:01:16] <sparky4> trek00: i am going to upgrade
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750[03:01:57] <trek00> sparky4: hope this will fix it, but if it
is a really old hardware may be it runs better with older debian
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751[03:02:03] <trek00> ThinkDao: good
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755[03:03:10] <trek00> ThinkDao: i'm searching for a
configuration
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756[03:03:50] <ThinkDao> still not listen anything at all, but
the speaker-test is running
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758[03:04:15] <u53r_4n0n_101> my country is going to the hell
with this cr|p of virus, i think because of what i see on tv
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759[03:04:39] <trek00> ThinkDao: well, try with the other card:
speaker-test -D "hw:CARD=SB,DEV=0" -c2 -twav
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760[03:05:33] <ThinkDao> trek00: Playback open error: -2, no
such file or diretory
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761[03:05:34] <u53r_4n0n_101> i don't believe it so, but
just in case of i can't contact with this (and no one else):
how can i could i maintain this system by myself?
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762[03:05:49] <annadane> u53r_4n0n_101, debian in general?
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765[03:06:17] <u53r_4n0n_101> i think. compile it and so?
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766[03:06:24] <trek00> ThinkDao: well may be you need to unmute
channels: try with alsamixer -D "hw:CARD=Generic,DEV=3"
and then try again with speaker-test on that device
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767[03:06:48] <annadane> it's not that hard to maintain,
just keep on top of updates, like by having an update notifier (i
use package-update-indicator), subscribe to
debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org, maybe read some basic
documentation (especially wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian)
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768[03:06:49] <annadane> !newcomer
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769[03:06:50] <dpkg> Welcome to Debian! Here's some
resources to help you on your merry way: The Debian Handbook:
replaced-url
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770[03:07:16] <annadane> otherwise, your question is maybe a bit
hard to answer, i'm not sure what you really mean
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771[03:07:25] <annadane> when you say "maintain this system
by myself"
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772[03:07:36] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_101: we will be here to support
anyway, virus or not :)
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773[03:07:47] <ThinkDao> trek00: using "alsamixer -D
...." is not defined by alsamixer it self as a command .. tell
me to use alsamixer --help
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774[03:08:43] <u53r_4n0n_101> ...no. it helps if i have a net,
but if i don't? i'll explain: develop the kernel (and
everything i need) by my own
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775[03:09:46] <trek00> ThinkDao: sorry this is taking too long
for me
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776[03:10:22] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_101: why you need to develp the
kernel?
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777[03:10:25] <ThinkDao> is ok trek00 I already have
connection.. just tell me, I need to setup the /etc/asound.conf file
?
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778[03:11:06] <trek00> ThinkDao: asound.conf is to setup the
correct card, once you find it, but you need to ear something
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779[03:11:54] <trek00> ThinkDao: may be you can read more on
replaced-url
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780[03:12:05] <annadane> u53r_4n0n_101, what do you mean by
develop, exactly? it may be easier to ask in your native language
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781[03:12:17] <Unit193> package-update-indicator \o/
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782[03:12:35] <u53r_4n0n_101> nothing
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783[03:12:39] <annadane> yeah i wish i could just dpkg -l
package when i get those emails but it isn't practical
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784[03:12:45] <ThinkDao> cool.. checking
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785[03:12:47] <annadane> because it goes under different names
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786[03:12:48] <Unit193> annadane: What do you set the update
command to?
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787[03:12:59] <annadane> you mean frequency of how often it
checks?
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789[03:13:45] <u53r_4n0n_101> i'll try to have a
connection, otherwise, just compile the kernel and all the files?
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790[03:13:56] <Unit193> No. It has two configuration options,
frequency and update command.
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791[03:14:02] <u53r_4n0n_101> develop: make my software
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793[03:14:32] <annadane> Unit193, oh i just leave it blank and
do my updates from the terminal
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794[03:14:41] <Unit193> Ah.
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795[03:15:25] <annadane> i don't like auto updates, i
prefer seeing what it's doing
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796[03:15:35] <trek00> ThinkDao: i think you need to write
something like: pcm.!default { type hw; card Generic; device 3 }
ctl.!default { type hw; card Generic; device 3 }
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797[03:16:26] <Unit193> annadane: `synaptic-pkexec
--dist-upgrade-mode` would do that: "Call DistUpgrade and
display changes"
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798[03:16:56] <annadane> meh
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801[03:19:51] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_101: probably we don't
understood your question, may be you can be more specific about what
you need
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802[03:20:07] <u53r_4n0n_101> maintain
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803[03:20:33] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_101: your debian system will
run fine also without updates
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806[03:21:14] <u53r_4n0n_101> ok
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808[03:22:51] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_101: anyway, even if this virus
is bad, it is expected that it will not kill more than 1/5 of the
people in the worst case, so the network should continue to be
operational
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810[03:24:29] <annadane> ...1/5 is a lot
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814[03:25:47] <trek00> yeah, but it should be the worst case
(everyone got infected, no one get medical care)
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854[03:55:20] <ThinkDao> I have sound :D I can sleep trek00 ..
super thanks for your time and tips! Take care!
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858[03:56:47] <trek00> ThinkDao: good :)
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859[03:57:03] <dvs> No you can't. Not with all that noise!
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861[03:57:59] <ThinkDao> dvs noise? the good in the bad of this
world wide warning virus is: there is no noise at cities :D
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865[03:58:42] <sahag> Hi all
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866[03:58:45] <dvs> heh
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867[03:59:01] <sahag> I have a little problem
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871[03:59:36] <sahag> Admin is installed node v.12 to server
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872[03:59:49] <sahag> but I wanted node 8.13 LTS
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874[04:00:11] <sahag> so i've downloaded portable version
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876[04:00:46] <sahag> now the problem is i cant set in path my
node813 with priority
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877[04:00:50] <sahag> how can i do that
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943[04:50:22] <realRobbinWillia> Can anyone assist with
10.11.1.128 - I have a barely functioning initial shell and I am
curious to see how others got their shell on this machine
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944[04:50:54] <lwp> !kali
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945[04:50:54] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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946[04:52:11] <nyov> 'man 1 date' says --date=STRING
can be a relative time/time zone -- does anyone have an example of
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947[04:53:17] <trek00> nyov: date -d "now + 1 week"
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950[04:53:42] <trek00> or simply "1 week"
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953[04:54:07] <nyov> trek00: okay, more specifically I wanted a
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956[04:54:54] <trek00> nyov: you can type date -d EST
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957[04:55:11] <nyov> ah right. so confused
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959[04:55:31] <trek00> or date -d +3hours
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960[04:56:25] <nyov> I actually need to use strftime, can't
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963[04:56:56] <nyov> thanks, trek00
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964[04:57:32] <trek00> nyov: youcan also use %z
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966[04:57:50] <nyov> yeah, for format output. but I need to set
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967[04:58:29] <nyov> %z would simply show UTC
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969[04:59:35] <trek00> %Z? :)
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973[05:04:22] <nyov> well, I guess lua os.date doesn't
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DST changes
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977[05:06:39] <Unit193> I tend to use the format of
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1027[05:50:38] <Unit193> sponix2ipfw: Sure.
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1032[05:52:57] <sponix2ipfw> I'm making some progress.
Managed to get my VM up
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1066[06:22:30] <pastiche> sponix2ipfw: VM ?
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1077[06:26:46] <sissylog> what's the lowest TDP socketed CPU
I can get right now
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1078[06:27:25] <sissylog> I see AMD 200GE is 35W
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1079[06:27:32] <sissylog> anything below that
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1083[06:31:28] <sissylog> lol sorry i asked the question in the
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1084[06:33:14] <annadane> how DARE you
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1085[06:33:16] <annadane> banned forever
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1139[07:09:46] <ryouma> there has been a moderator in this
channel who was exactly like that. a mischan would be taken as a
deliberate act of sabotage.
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portrait. i want to rotate them. but feh doesn't do that any
longer due to some library issue.
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1158[07:19:02] <ryouma> emss: it is hardcoded into feh acc
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1297[09:16:33] <Buffoni1990> Boe !
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latitudes (5300, 5400 or 5500) laptops with debian 10 (or 11)? Any
of you experience the random hang at boot just after "Loading
intial ramdisk"? Any workaround? (Dell says they only give
linux Support for Precision laptops)
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1405[10:31:45] <ChrisH> Debian stretch, following
replaced-url
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1411[10:33:26] <ChrisH> I am unsure what updtaes were applied
between first success tests (2 weeks ago) and reboot on sunday. I
added IPv6 to my network on saturday but afterwards it still worked.
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1430[10:49:09] <emss> ChrisH does it go down the moment you ifup?
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1440[10:58:03] <ChrisH> yes
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1454[11:04:50] <fonky> hi all
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1455[11:04:59] <Paul__> hi
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1457[11:05:32] <luna_> hi
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1458[11:05:43] <fonky> i have a question, if anyone having a
suggestion, is there a way to for example get a txt or whatever
listing of every file on
replaced-url
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1460[11:06:22] <fonky> something akin to a directory and file
print >> whatever.whatever on local drive
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1461[11:06:28] <fonky> y
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1462[11:06:31] <fonky> structure and file name
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1479[11:15:53] <fonky> lynx -dump -listonly
replaced-url
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1481[11:16:04] <fonky> can anyone help me a bit :)
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1483[11:16:27] <nevivurn> sponix: update re: RX 5500XT,
everything works on Debian Testing + adding some new firmware bits
from linux-firmware.git. Which means I can backport whatever I need
to get it working on stable (probably)!
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1487[11:17:44] <fonky> without the second grep i get a directory
listing
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1488[11:18:04] <fonky> grep \.xpi$ <- does not really work
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1497[11:22:08] <jm_> try '.xpi$'
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1498[11:22:11] <jringoot> thanks for the suggestion @jim_ With
corona I am working from home, but I will definitely try this.
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1500[11:22:27] <jm_> make that '\.....'
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1504[11:23:42] <jringoot> rng is "random number
generator" I suppose, I am looking trough the list of kernel
options, it doesn't seem configurable there, correct?
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1508[11:24:43] <klys> google [random number generator kconfig]
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1519[11:29:07] <fonky> jm ty for reply but does not print
anything
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1520[11:29:34] <fonky> tried grep '\.xpi$' grep \\.xpi$
grep '.xpi$'
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1530[11:32:24] <jm_> fonky: the command does not list any xpi
files
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1531[11:32:40] <tucna> hi
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1551[11:41:00] <jamesc> I see debian useto have
/etc/networking/interfaces all the guides put static routes in
there. I would like to add a seperate routes file like previous
versions
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1578[12:10:07] <fonky> odd stuff
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1580[12:10:14] <fonky> lynx -dump -listonly
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1583[12:10:42] <fonky> lynx -dump -listonly
replaced-url
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1586[12:11:06] <fonky> any ideas why?
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1590[12:11:58] <fonky> as there are xpi files on that server
->
replaced-url
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1600[12:19:17] <fonky> um, last question
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1601[12:19:29] <fonky> is there an -R for recursive option in
lynx
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1603[12:19:51] <fonky> with -dump & -listonly
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1604[12:20:04] <fonky> so it dump the whole of the structure
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1626[12:30:51] <duude__> Hello people. I'm trying to make
prepackaged live OS for radio amateur ethusiasts. Not sure where to
start, but I definetely don't want to reinvent the wheel and go
with LFS. Can I just base it off Debian? If so, where do I start?
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1627[12:31:32] <fonky> there are some packages that help you out
how to build a distro based on debian
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1629[12:31:53] <Unit193> Specifically, live-build will help
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1630[12:32:24] <duude__> Oh nice! Thank you.
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1631[12:33:07] <fonky> let me check
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1632[12:33:15] <fonky> i saw those a while ago while using apt
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1634[12:33:17] <fonky> not sure
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1636[12:34:38] <ChrisH> duude__: IIRC there are several ham radio
based Live Distros. There should be one debian ham radio flavor. We
talked about that a while ago in a linux and hand radio workshop.
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1637[12:35:06] <fonky> remastersys respin
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1639[12:37:38] <fonky> it should not be much different
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1641[12:37:47] <fonky> but then again you better ask the people
writing the code
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1642[12:37:47] <duude__> ChrisH: I saw some too. They're all
kinda outdated though. I wanted to create something new, how I
imagined them
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1643[12:37:54] <duude__> Hopefully the community will like it heh
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1650[12:42:18] <fonky> duude__:
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1660[12:49:41] <rs2009> Worked on the first release of Krob Linux
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1661[12:49:47] <rs2009> blufire.xyz
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1671[12:56:21] <jamesc> I see debian useto have
/etc/networking/interfaces all the guides put static routes in
there. I would like to add a seperate routes file like previous
versions
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1672[12:58:15] <trek00> jamesc: you can create a file inside
/etc/network/interfaces.d/
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1675[12:58:42] <nkuttler> rs2009: please don't spam here
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1676[12:59:03] <rs2009> Not spamming :)
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1677[12:59:10] <rs2009> Just wanted opinion of the idea
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1678[12:59:20] <jamesc> @trek00 Thanks
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1679[12:59:20] <nkuttler> my opinion is that you're
off-topic and spamming
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1680[12:59:31] <rs2009> Am not :)
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1681[12:59:39] <nkuttler> !ops rs2009 spam
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1682[12:59:39] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall,
bremner: nkuttler complains about a problem (see above)
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1684[13:00:04] <rs2009> !ops nkuttler spam
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1685[13:00:04] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall,
bremner: rs2009 complains about a problem (see above)
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1687[13:00:45] <rs2009> Please do not create a fuss
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1689[13:01:21] <rs2009> I haven't caused a problem and am
not a spambot, which I guess you believe
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1690[13:01:44] <jelly-home> rs2009, we warned you about
gratuitous ads for your own project before
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1694[13:02:15] <jelly> nkuttler, thanks
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1696[13:02:25] <nkuttler> jelly: you're welcome
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1699[13:03:11] <jelly> they seem to be just an enthusiastic kid
but could learn to use offtopic channels for things like that
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1700[13:04:11] <Haohmaru> or a spamthusiastic kid
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1704[13:05:23] <jelly> and they got conflicting advice
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1706[13:06:45] <jelly> Mar 16 12:20:11 <rs2009>
petn-randall: Debian could have a special edition though. It could
be mainly for users who aren't worried about system issues and
do not like the old version set of Debian Stable. [...]
<petn-randall> rs2009: Let us know how far you get with it!
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1708[13:07:16] <Haohmaru> i wonder why some packages that are in
debian11 right now aren't available via backportz to debian10
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1710[13:07:40] <jelly> noone asked for them.
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1712[13:08:03] <Haohmaru> hm, i guess there has to be muchos
demand?
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1714[13:08:18] <jelly> there has to be ANY demand
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1715[13:08:27] <jelly> !backports
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1716[13:08:27] <dpkg> A backport is a package from a newer Debian
branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency
and <ABI> complications.
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1717[13:08:32] <trek00> Haohmaru: if they are small packages, it
is simpler to build packages yourself
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1719[13:08:50] <Haohmaru> it's not too small, it's
code::blocks
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1720[13:08:54] <jelly> Haohmaru, read the instructions, join the
mailing list, ask for stuff you need
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1721[13:09:04] <Haohmaru> aww mailing list x_x
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1723[13:09:54] <jelly> too good for your refined social
networking palate?
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1724[13:10:58] <Haohmaru> i seriously don't understand
mailing lists, there must be some logic in them since a ton of
people prefer that, but to me it's all just confusing
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1726[13:11:25] <Haohmaru> i "grew up" with phpbb forums
and IRC
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1727[13:12:21] <jelly> they are excellent to track conversations
IF you have a decent mail client
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1728[13:12:37] <jelly> forums are a mess, and you don't keep
a local copy
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1729[13:12:50] <Haohmaru> i open my email.. from the web browz0r
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1730[13:12:53] <jelly> no way to track who answered what
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1731[13:13:08] <Haohmaru> forums are a mess?! wot?!
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1732[13:13:35] <jelly> even sites like reddit have better
threading
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1733[13:13:38] <trek00> Haohmaru: mailing list are comfortable
with a proper mail client
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1734[13:14:11] <Haohmaru> so they aren't otherwise?
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1736[13:14:43] <Haohmaru> oh well
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1737[13:14:47] <trek00> Haohmaru: it depends how much the webmail
client is done well
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1738[13:15:11] <jelly> Haohmaru, most webmail solutions
don't present conversations in a decent manner
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1739[13:15:17] <trek00> and how fast you can move between
messages and search
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1740[13:16:18] <Haohmaru> imma look for another way
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1741[13:17:47] <Haohmaru> i remember like probably 15 years ago i
had to use this "yahoo groups" thing to talk to certain
peoplez, is that the same as mailing list?
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1742[13:18:05] <Haohmaru> it was a highly unpleasent experience
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1745[13:21:19] <trek00> Haohmaru: it should be easy to rebuild
codeblocks
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1791[13:46:20] <jelly> mailing lists are just mail.
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1794[13:48:48] <coet-i3> Hi! How can I find which package has
installed a specific /usr/lib*.so file?
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1796[13:49:51] <trek00> coet-i3: dpkg -S /path/to/file
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1801[13:50:58] <coet-i3> trek00: doesn't work: `dpkg-query:
no path found matching pattern /usr/lib/libiconv.so.2`
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1802[13:51:32] <trek00> coet-i3: this is a symlink, try with the
full name
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1803[13:52:35] <coet-i3> trek00: same error:
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1806[13:53:57] <trek00> coet-i3: it should mean that files are
not installed by a package
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1807[13:54:19] <coet-i3> trek00: oh, that can make sense, because
it was installed with `configure && make`
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1809[13:54:44] <trek00> coet-i3: you should install under
/usr/local to not mess your system
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1810[13:54:52] <trek00> coet-i3: configure --prefix=/usr/local
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1812[13:56:31] <coet-i3> thanks
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1813[13:56:36] <trek00> :)
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1815[13:58:34] <ph8> Hi all, does anyone know when stretch is
getting EOLed this year?
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1817[13:58:48] <ph8> I'm looking for a more specific date so
i can plan when to upgrade to buster
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1818[13:59:09] <dvs> !stretch
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1819[13:59:10] <dpkg> Stretch is the codename for the current
<oldstable> release, Debian 9, released 2017-06-17.
"Stretch" is the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3, see
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1821[13:59:56] <mutante> ph8: June 30, 2020
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1822[14:00:09] <dvs> ph8, it's usually about a year after
the next stable release.
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1823[14:00:17] <ph8> thanks
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1824[14:00:29] <trek00> ph8: the LTS support will end on 2022
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1825[14:00:37] <ph8> awesome thanks
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stretch but getting "mysql-server : Depends:
default-mysql-server but it is not going to be installed"
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1835[14:10:23] <judd> Package: default-mysql-server on amd64 --
stretch: 1.0.2; bullseye: 1.0.5; buster: 1.0.5; sid: 1.0.5
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1836[14:10:54] <jelly> ice9, make sure your srtetch sources.list
are complete and that you're actually running stretch
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1837[14:11:01] <jelly> !stretch sources.list
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1838[14:11:01] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for
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1845[14:12:20] <jelly> ice9, you'll actually get to install
mariadb-server-10.1 in the end but that's okay
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1846[14:14:12] <ice9> jelly, mariadb-server : Depends:
mariadb-server-10.3 (>= 1:10.3.22-1) but it is not going to be
installed
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1848[14:14:47] <ice9> jelly, that's my sources.list
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1849[14:15:56] <dvs> !frankendebian
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1850[14:15:56] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random
repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and
derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone
can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and
#debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about
<reinstall>
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1854[14:19:29] <mutante> ice9: you might be lucky if you remove
line 11 and apt-get update and try again
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1855[14:19:48] <mutante> otherwise.. yea..reinstall
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1856[14:20:57] <ice9> reinstall system??
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1857[14:21:30] <mutante> yea, because you mixed different
versions
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1859[14:22:03] <ice9> what if I added mysql PPA?
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1860[14:22:07] <ChrisH> yes
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1861[14:22:12] <mutante> "testing" is very different
from stretch
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1862[14:22:32] <ChrisH> ups... I did not answer anything.
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1863[14:22:37] <joepublic> adding various random repositories is
not the answer, unfortunately, but rather the problem
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1865[14:23:47] <mutante> ice9: no, more like remove the
'testing' part from sources and only use stretch. and then
do an upgrade to buster and then install mariadb package
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1871[14:25:01] <mutante> reinstall with stable is the cleanest
and probably does not take any longer
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1876[14:26:15] <ice9> it's a VPS!
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1877[14:26:42] <joepublic> it's a FrankenDebian VPS!
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1880[14:27:39] <mutante> ice9: rsync data to somewhere else,
delete VPS, create new VPS with buster, rsync data back ?
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1882[14:28:05] * HoardingTP has 65 rolls!!!!!!!!!
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1883[14:28:22] <mutante> or have 2 VPS for a few days until you
got it all migrated
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1884[14:30:22] * dvs sends a mob after HoardingTP
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1886[14:30:47] <Haohmaru> wew, such mafia
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1887[14:31:14] <mutante> he got TPed by opers
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1890[14:31:35] <dvs> it worked!
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1893[14:32:38] <commandlinux> Hello! i Just installed debian on
my pc and it doesnt load a gui session, altough i installed kde,
just command line, help?
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1894[14:32:56] <watom> how you installaed kde?
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1895[14:33:14] <commandlinux> The options box during install
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1897[14:33:26] <Haohmaru> you probably don't have a login
manager thing
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1898[14:33:29] <dvs> apt install sddm
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1899[14:33:51] <trek00> commandlinux: you can start it manually
with startx
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1900[14:34:13] <commandlinux> sddm installed, started it
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1901[14:34:18] <commandlinux> with startx
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1902[14:34:41] <commandlinux> I dont want to have to do this
every time, possible fix?
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1903[14:34:59] <Haohmaru> commandlinux you already have sddm and
yet you end up in text mode?
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1905[14:35:19] <commandlinux> Yep, when i typed it in it said no
packages to instal/update/upgrade
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1906[14:35:35] <trek00> commandlinux: may be after a reboot, sddm
wil started automatically?
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1909[14:35:49] <Haohmaru> i don't have experience with kde
(i hate it) .. maybe try lightdm?
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1910[14:35:49] <commandlinux> Maybe, ill reboot
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1911[14:36:00] <commandlinux> I love kde since i tried it on
manjaro
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1912[14:36:11] <Haohmaru> my condolesence
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1913[14:36:11] <commandlinux> And kde connect is bomb
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1915[14:36:22] <watom> commandlinux try dpkg-reconfigure sddm
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1916[14:36:36] <commandlinux> Ok, ill reconfigure and reboot
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1917[14:37:36] <commandlinux> Command line again
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1919[14:37:58] <abrotman> commandlinux: how did you install kde?
and how did you install xorg?
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1920[14:37:59] <Haohmaru> try installing lightdm
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1921[14:38:11] <watom> abrotman commandlinux> The options box
during install
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1922[14:38:22] <Haohmaru> it smells wrong tho
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1923[14:38:32] <commandlinux> Didnt install xorg manually,
shouldnt it do so automatically?
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1924[14:38:36] <abrotman> no
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1925[14:38:43] <Haohmaru> if you're installing kde or
anything from netinst, it should "just work"
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1926[14:39:03] <commandlinux> Ok, how do i install xorg?
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1927[14:39:10] <dvs> installed from a live CD?
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1928[14:39:13] <Haohmaru> you must already have it
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1929[14:39:17] <commandlinux> usb, yes
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1930[14:39:19] <jm_> commandlinux: what does 'systemctl
get-default' show?
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1931[14:39:21] <abrotman> commandlinux: if you're not sure
if everything is installed .. install xorg kde kdm
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1932[14:39:27] <abrotman> try that , see how that goes
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1933[14:39:44] <commandlinux> Ok, let me switch to pc so i can
paste easily
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1934[14:39:49] <Haohmaru> abrotman shouldn't it be like
"task-kde" instead?
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1935[14:40:00] <Haohmaru> or task-kde-desktop or however it was
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1936[14:40:08] <watom> i'd not mess with apt or we will
never understand what went wrong
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1937[14:40:16] <abrotman> "options box" is a bit vague,
let's make sure
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1939[14:41:06] <commandlinepc> Ok, tis me
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1940[14:41:10] <commandlinepc> Hold on
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1941[14:41:36] <Haohmaru> hurry up.. i can't hold it..
much.. longer..
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1943[14:41:54] <watom> you should really check ssdm status.
"systemctl status ssdm"
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1944[14:41:57] <commandlinepc> jm_ graphical.target
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1946[14:43:10] <commandlinepc> Is there some command so i can
pastebin into chat
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1947[14:43:19] <commandlinepc> Some troubles with xorg kde kdm
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1948[14:43:29] <Haohmaru> commandlinepc did you see something
fishy before you end up in text mode? like, maybe some
errors/warnings about your video card?
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1949[14:43:45] <Haohmaru> iirc kde might expect fancy video card
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1950[14:43:46] <trek00> commandlinepc:
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1951[14:43:50] <jm_> commandlinepc: 'systemctl show
graphical.target' will show units it depends on, there should
be sddm.service among them, is it?
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1952[14:44:00] <commandlinepc> Text too fast
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1953[14:44:07] <commandlinepc> Hold on
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1955[14:44:24] <commandlinepc>
replaced-url
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1956[14:44:33] <commandlinepc> This is my output for install kde
kdm xorg
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1957[14:44:49] <commandlinepc> i have an rx460 as gpu
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1958[14:44:52] <watom> journalct | grep ssdm would be great
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1959[14:44:59] <commandlinepc> Hold ooon
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1961[14:45:09] <Haohmaru> i think you're not supposed to
"install kde" but something else like task-kde-desktop or
some such
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1963[14:46:04] <commandlinepc> This is sustemctl
replaced-url
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1965[14:46:34] <commandlinepc> journalct isnt a command?
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1969[14:46:50] <watom> journalctl :D
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1971[14:47:08] <watom> watom> you should really check ssdm
status. "systemctl status ssdm"
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1972[14:47:13] <commandlinepc> Does nothing
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1975[14:47:25] <commandlinepc> aka no output
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1976[14:47:29] <watom> it means ssdm doesn't even try to
start
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1977[14:47:38] <watom> did you dpkg-reconfigure it?
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1978[14:47:53] <commandlinepc> Yes, and rebooted as said earlier
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1979[14:48:10] <Haohmaru> i'd try installing lightdm ;P~
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1980[14:48:17] <jm_> even 'systemctl status
ssdm.service' does not work?
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1981[14:48:43] <watom> it's really weird is not yet there
after a dpkg-reconfigure
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1983[14:48:56] <commandlinepc> systemctl status ssdm.serviceUnit
ssdm.service could not be found.
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1985[14:49:18] <watom> where did you grab that debian installer?
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1988[14:50:15] <commandlinepc> Firmware_netinst a friend gave me
to try, installed it on my laptop yesterday, upgraded to testing,
works fine
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1989[14:50:18] <dvs> watom, will you stop misspelling
"sddm"
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1990[14:50:27] <jm_> bleh sorry
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1991[14:50:37] <jm_> 'systemctl status sddm.service'
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1992[14:50:38] <commandlinepc> Oh, let me try sddm
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1994[14:50:45] <jm_> I just spotted that too :)
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1995[14:51:30] <Haohmaru> do you have
"task-kde-desktop" installed?
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1996[14:51:42] <commandlinepc>
replaced-url
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1997[14:51:44] <abrotman> TOO MANY COOKS
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1998[14:51:45] <commandlinepc> Let me check
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1999[14:51:49] <commandlinepc> YES
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2000[14:51:52] <noln> Install task-kde-desktop for a full
install, kde-plasma-desktop plasma-nm for minimal install
(plasmashell + kwin)
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2001[14:51:52] <commandlinepc> TOO MANY
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2002[14:52:08] <commandlinepc> task-kde-desktop installed
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2006[14:52:24] <watom> dvs i didn't start that mispelling
sir :x
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2007[14:52:26] <Haohmaru> weird then
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2008[14:52:27] <commandlinepc> So i shouldnt need to try minimal
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2011[14:52:52] <Haohmaru> well, something is very fishy
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2012[14:52:52] <noln> cat /var/log/sddm.log
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2014[14:53:09] <commandlinepc> no output
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2015[14:53:12] <dvs> <watom> it means ssdm doesn't
even try to start
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2016[14:53:24] <dvs> <watom> watom> you should really
check ssdm status. "systemctl status ssdm"
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2017[14:53:49] <commandlinepc> was the last one aimed at me?
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2018[14:53:54] <dvs> no
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2019[14:53:59] <commandlinepc> Kk
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2020[14:54:00] <noln> wait, you're on testing not stable?
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2021[14:54:18] <commandlinepc> Im on stable rn, my laptop is on
testing perfectly fine with kde
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2022[14:54:18] <Haohmaru> aww, call teh police
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2025[14:55:22] <watom> dvs oh. apparently i mispelled after a
bit. could be related i'm buying an ssd
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2026[14:56:03] <Haohmaru> it's a sign - don't buy the
ssd ;P~
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2029[14:56:27] <watom> right i should slow down
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2031[14:57:53] <commandlinepc> Any further possible
diagnostics/fixes?
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2032[14:58:07] <commandlinepc> Should i mb just reinstall
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2033[14:58:12] <upindaclub> can anyone please clarify how long
oldstable is supported for? one official source says '1 year
after stable release', another 'june 2022'
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2034[14:58:14] <commandlinepc> Since its fresh anyway
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2035[14:58:38] <joepublic> commandlinepc, sudo tasksel, select
debian desktop environment and kde, see what you get?
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2036[14:58:52] <abrotman> dpkg: tell upindaclub about lts
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2037[14:58:55] <dvs> upindaclub, June 30, 2020
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2039[14:59:03] <dvs> someone already asked that today
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2040[14:59:16] <mutante> upindaclub: i think the difference is
who does the security updates and whether you want to rely on LTS or
not
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2041[14:59:18] <jm_> commandlinepc: try running startx manually
and see what happens
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2042[14:59:47] <commandlinepc> I cant paste an imgur link?
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2043[15:00:03] <upindaclub> yes, it is on the LTS page (replaced-url
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2046[15:00:42] <jm_> why do you want to paste imgur link?
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2047[15:00:50] <commandlinepc> i.imgur.com/NShT8PB.png
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2048[15:00:54] <commandlinepc> Kde installed
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2051[15:02:12] <abrotman> upindaclub: that's what it seems
like from reading that page, there is a #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net
if you want to follow up with them
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2054[15:03:15] <upindaclub> abrotman: thanks, i will do that to
clear up my confusion
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2055[15:03:42] <watom> commandlinepc update-alternatives --query
x-session-manager output?
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2059[15:04:48] <commandlinepc>
replaced-url
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2060[15:04:52] <mutante> upindaclub:
replaced-url
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2061[15:05:35] <commandlinepc> As said, should i just try
reinstalling if it should from out of the box from netinstall?
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2063[15:05:40] <mutante> i could imagine giving an exact date to
be counter productive. everybody would delay until last 24hours and
then ddos the servers :p
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2064[15:05:42] <commandlinepc> *should work
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2065[15:06:40] <watom> if you will not change the media installer
i presume you will get the same outcome
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2067[15:07:17] <commandlinux> Ill download the netinstall from
the website and try, mb this ones cursed by my friend
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2069[15:07:33] <commandlinux> Idk lol
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2070[15:07:37] <watom> did you check every tty?
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2071[15:07:45] <commandlinux> tty?
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2072[15:07:48] <watom> maybe is actually started bit you are on
the wrong tty
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2073[15:08:01] <commandlinux> Ok, lemme type
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2076[15:08:16] <commandlinepc> tty/dev/pts/1
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2077[15:08:29] <commandlinepc> tty /dev/pts/1
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2078[15:08:35] <commandlinepc> more like this
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2082[15:09:25] <watom> run "ps ax | grep sddm"
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2083[15:10:25] <commandlinepc> 615 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/bin/sddm 2271
pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep sddm
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2084[15:11:47] <watom> you can change displayed tty with
ctrl+alt+f1 and so on
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2085[15:12:14] <Haohmaru> i find my desktop usually on
ctrl+alt+F7 (but it's not kde)
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2087[15:12:15] <commandlinepc> Whats tty and how tight is her
pussy
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2088[15:12:22] <commandlinepc> (its jibberish to me, pls
elaborate)
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2090[15:12:32] <Haohmaru> commandlinepc pls, there are kids here
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2094[15:13:12] <watom> at the login screen. use ctrl+alt+f1...f12
to move through other "screens"
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2097[15:13:21] <Haohmaru> commandlinepc in text mode you have a
number of "screens" basically, you can log on to each of
them and switch between them
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2098[15:13:23] <watom> maybe on some of them there is your kde
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2099[15:13:30] <commandlinepc> Ok, lemme reboot
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2100[15:13:31] <jm_> i imagine if ctrl-alt-f7 works we'll
see 'Quit: commandlinepc (broken pipe)'
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2101[15:13:32] <Haohmaru> one of them usually goes for your
desktop session
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2102[15:13:41] <commandlinepc> Brb
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2182[15:16:06] <dvs> go away!
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2190[15:16:27] <commandlinepc> Saw some flickering, but same shit
on all f-x
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2227[15:18:38] <commandlinepc> Ill just try the netinstall from
the website and report back
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2228[15:18:46] <commandlinepc> Its almost done writing
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2231[15:18:56] <dvs> do you have WiFi?
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2233[15:19:04] <commandlinepc> LAN
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2236[15:19:07] <dvs> ok
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2237[15:19:22] <Haohmaru> you could've tried lightdm or
another login manager
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2241[15:20:12] <commandlinepc> im not switching des, debian
really should be able to do kde, one of the most popular ones,
especially as im writing the iso on said debian kde from my laptop
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2242[15:20:29] <Haohmaru> lightdm is only a login manager
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2243[15:20:30] <commandlinepc> K, done writing, will report back,
thx for the help so far
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2245[15:20:49] <commandlinepc> Oh, sry
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2246[15:20:51] <Haohmaru> you can have 5 DEs and use lightdm to
"log in" and "choose which DE"
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2247[15:20:59] <commandlinepc> Ye, got it
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2249[15:21:07] <commandlinepc> Let me give it one last try
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2250[15:21:15] <commandlinepc> How do i setup its start
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2252[15:21:15] <Haohmaru> since sddm isn't doing its job for
some reason
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2254[15:21:45] <Haohmaru> just install lightdm and you should get
that screen that asks you which one should be default (sddm or
lightdm), choose lightdm
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2256[15:22:00] <commandlinepc> Yup, alrdy did it
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2257[15:22:25] <commandlinepc> As one says in russian- hope dies
last, imma reboot
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2258[15:22:39] <Haohmaru> >:)
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2262[15:24:24] <commandlinepc> Lightdm works yeeee
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2263[15:24:40] <Haohmaru> ;P~
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2265[15:24:54] <Haohmaru> well, you have your kde now x_x
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2266[15:25:15] <commandlinepc> Thanks for all the help all :)
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2267[15:25:30] <commandlinepc> Now ill go testing
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2269[15:26:05] <dvs> -_-
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2275[15:29:21] <commandlinepc> although first ill go to the
market, its rona time in germany and i dont want it to be packed
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2277[15:29:58] <dvs> Rona? Why do you need lumber? ;-P
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2278[15:30:10] <commandlinepc> Lel
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2281[15:30:33] <commandlinepc> Aight, im out, thx for the help
and cya at next debian escapades of mine
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2310[15:43:51] <dff> hi all, looking for an email client with a
decent gui and support for gpg.
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2312[15:44:54] <dff> thunderbird with engimail?
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2314[15:45:00] <dff> enigmail*
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2315[15:45:01] <tapoxi> dff: yep
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2317[15:45:55] <tapoxi> probably your best option. geary has some
preliminary support
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2322[15:46:32] <tomreyn> there is none, but thunderbird +
enigmail is usable.
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2327[15:50:28] <xormor> this is my homepage:
replaced-url
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2329[15:51:09] <xormor> I port scanned myself, and I saw the
services it was running, but I do not know if the versions have
security holes.
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2352[16:01:07] <BoBeR> Hello, how do I upgrade python2 to python3
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2361[16:04:31] <mutante> BoBeR: i heard there is a
"2to3" script but it still needs manual checking :/
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2362[16:04:41] <mutante> if that's what you mean
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2364[16:05:19] <mutante> BoBeR: do you mean upgrading python code
or upgrading Debian packages?
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2365[16:05:30] <BoBeR> upgrading the packages
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2366[16:05:33] <BoBeR> I installed python3
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2367[16:05:43] <BoBeR> I need to use pip to install
"sopel" bot
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2368[16:05:45] <mutante> ah, yea, that sounds right
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2369[16:05:49] <BoBeR> but I get an error
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2370[16:05:57] <BoBeR> ImportError: cannot import name
'main' from 'pip'
(/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pip/__init__.py)
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2371[16:06:10] <mutante> did you make sure you actually have to
use pip and can't avoid it by using a distro pacakge?
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2373[16:06:57] <noln> Install python3-pip and run pip3 install
...
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2374[16:07:01] <noln> Mind the 3 in pip3
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2375[16:07:10] <BoBeR> I did and I get that error
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2376[16:07:21] <BoBeR> !dpkg sopel
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2381[16:08:02] <coey> Ayy, I'm new to Debian and Linux. Last
night i installed the propriety nvidia graphic drivers. I did so
before enabling multiarch, and I get a libgl error when launching
Steam. I tried installing the 32-bit drivers and now apt says that I
have broken package; fix install doesn't work. This is my
terminal output, the solution to this is probably simple but
I'd appreciate any help you can send my way. Thanks!
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2382[16:08:05] <coey>
replaced-url
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2385[16:08:47] <mutante> yet another case where they claim pip
makes it soo easy but it actually does not. " Installing with
pip will “just handle” dependencies for you, so you
won’t need to do so manually "
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2387[16:09:06] <noln> it is, his install is borked presumably
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2388[16:09:22] <mutante> "Sopel requires Python 2.7.x or
Python 3.3+ to run. Under Python 2.7, Sopel requires
backports.ssl_match_hostname to be installed. Use pip install
backports.ssl_match_hostname"
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2389[16:09:24] <noln> Anyway python3 is preinstalled, it coexists
with python2
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2390[16:09:45] <BoBeR> pip3 list crashes aswell
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2391[16:09:49] <BoBeR> this is not a sopel bug
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2395[16:10:06] <trek00> coey: you already did dpkg
--add-architecture i386?
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2396[16:10:20] <coey> I did! I did it a few minutes ago.
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2397[16:10:29] <mutante> is the bug mixing stuff from multiple
package managers?
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2398[16:10:50] <trek00> coey: do you know how to use aptitude?
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2399[16:11:03] <coey> No, I don't.
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2400[16:11:12] <BoBeR> mutante, is that to me?
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2402[16:11:17] <sponix> nevivurn: Glad you got it working
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2404[16:12:00] <BoBeR>
replaced-url
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2405[16:12:15] <mutante> BoBeR: yea, somewhat. proper sopel
package and avoiding pip maybe.
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2406[16:12:40] <trek00> coey: it seems you have enabled backports
and when you install nvidia drivers for i386 it search for version
440, but you have installed version 418
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2407[16:12:48] <BoBeR> sopel in debian is 6.x I'm using 7.x
in python2
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2408[16:12:54] <BoBeR> I do not want to downgrade
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2409[16:13:17] <coey> Hmm.. Yeah, I enabled backports last night.
What should I do?
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2410[16:13:32] <mutante> BoBeR: my experience is a lot of issues
with mixing pip and distro packages and also pip does not clean up
after itself when you remove stuff ..causing surprises
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2411[16:13:57] <trek00> coey: you can try: 1) to disable
backports and try to install again nvidia for i386 or 2) upgrade
nvidia 64-bit to backports version (440) and then add nvidia for
i386
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2412[16:14:34] <ikus060> Hello, I'm trying to create a
control file to genrate packages for debian buster and stretch. I
see "python3-distutils" is a new package in buster that
doesn't exists in stretch. What is the best way to manage this
?
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2413[16:14:36] <trek00> coey: sorry my analysis is not true
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2414[16:14:52] <coey> Oh, really? That's fine, no worries.
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2415[16:15:00] <coey> I'm not in a hurry here or anything,
hah
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2416[16:15:03] <trek00> coey: you already have 440 version for 64
bit, but may be backports are not enabled for i386?
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2417[16:15:15] <coey> Hmm...
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2419[16:16:21] <trek00> coey: you done apt update after dpkg
--add-architecture?
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2420[16:16:29] <coey> I did, yeah
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2421[16:17:53] <trek00> coey: may be try to type apt-get install
-t buster-backports nvidia-driver nvidia-driver-libs-i386
nvidia-vulkan-icd nvidia-vulkan-icd:i386
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2423[16:18:16] <karlpinc> BoBeR: If you want to use pip/pypi you
should do so in virtual environments.
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2424[16:18:42] <karlpinc> BoBeR: Using pip as root breaks apt.
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2425[16:20:04] <coey> It works! Thanks!
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2426[16:20:12] <trek00> coey: nice :)
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2427[16:20:27] <BoBeR> karlpinc: venv is not found
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2450[16:30:19] <BoBeR> python3 -m pip install --force-reinstall
pip worked for me
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2454[16:31:00] <noln> it's python3-venv
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2475[16:42:52] <u53r_4n0n_10> why i must kill once and again
network-manager?
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2477[16:43:39] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: it is not responding?
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2480[16:44:29] <u53r_4n0n_10> ttg yes
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2482[16:44:50] <u53r_4n0n_10> if not, i won't be here
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2483[16:45:04] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: it was just to understand
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2486[16:46:10] <ice9> erig, i did "firewall-cmd --permanent
--zone=drop --add-rich-rule='rule family=ipv4 port
protocol="tcp" port="80" accept'" but
iptables-save | grep 80 doesn't show up the rule
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2487[16:46:23] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: may be it is a bug of
network-manager or the graphical applet you use, that depends by
your desktop environment
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2488[16:46:34] <u53r_4n0n_10> cinnamon
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2490[16:47:50] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: i can't find bug
reports about this issue, may be you can search on the logs for some
related error message?
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2491[16:47:58] <u53r_4n0n_10> but i kill it with sudo htop, and
it works
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2492[16:48:49] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: it should not freeze, if it
does, may be it prints an error message or it is a bug
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2493[16:49:06] <ice9> i did "firewall-cmd --permanent
--zone=drop --add-rich-rule='rule family=ipv4 port
protocol="tcp" port="80" accept'" but
iptables-save | grep 80 doesn't show up the rule, anyidea?
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2497[16:50:10] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: may be you can read the
file .xsession-errors inside your home directory
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2500[16:53:06] <u53r_4n0n_10> what should i search in the output
that you mentioned?
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2501[16:53:17] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: something relatedo to
network-manager
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2504[16:54:08] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: if you can't find a
solution, may be you can uninstall network-manager and try with wicd
package, that is similar
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2506[16:54:37] <jrg> Is there a reason why tmux for Debian
doesn’t have the -s option to name the session?
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2509[16:56:23] <u53r_4n0n_10> no. i've tried the inverse
(uninstall wicd and try w/ network-manager), and i cannot uninstall
it, despite i ran it with sudo
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2513[16:57:06] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: sorry i don't know how
to help, may be others here will reply
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2516[16:59:05] <noln> jrg, tmux new -s myname # works here
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2517[16:59:29] <u53r_4n0n_10> well, you've don so far.
thanks. i'll try to start a session with root, it could helps?
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2518[16:59:41] <jrg> noln: weird. i'm getting -s has no
option
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2519[17:00:01] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: no, you should never run X
as root
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2520[17:00:02] <noln> paste.debian.net
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2521[17:00:18] <u53r_4n0n_10> why?
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2522[17:00:19] <jrg> tmux: unknown option -- s
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2523[17:00:29] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: it could brings to you more
issues
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2524[17:00:53] <u53r_4n0n_10> oh, thanks. but what it's sudo
then?
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2525[17:00:57] <noln> mind the "new"
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2526[17:01:04] <noln> tmux -s will error out
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2528[17:01:28] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: sudo is to launch only some
commands as root, not the whole session
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2530[17:02:09] <InvisibleRasta> how can i make it so when i close
my laptop lid it doesnt go in standby?
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2531[17:02:27] <u53r_4n0n_10> where i can practice? i have been
trying with a few know
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2532[17:02:32] <u53r_4n0n_10> or lear
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2537[17:03:55] <mutante> InvisibleRasta: for me it's System
-> Preferences -> Hardware -> Power Management ->
"When laptop lid is closed.." (i use MATE (old Gnome))
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2539[17:04:15] <jrg> noln: ah ok. yeah missed that heh
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2540[17:04:17] <jrg> my mistake
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2541[17:04:22] <jrg> let me try it out
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2542[17:04:23] <InvisibleRasta> mutante, i am running without X
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2544[17:04:58] <mutante> InvisibleRasta:
replaced-url
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2547[17:05:26] <mutante> InvisibleRasta: see the different
"targets" there? you may or may not want all of them
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2550[17:05:44] <trek00> u53r_4n0n_10: i don't know, may be
reading some articles, forums and do many tests: i've broken
may systems to get more experience
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2552[17:05:59] <mutante> InvisibleRasta: or what it says about
"If you just want to prevent suspending when the lid is closed
you can set the following options in /etc/systemd/logind.conf:
"
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2560[17:06:53] <InvisibleRasta> mutante, grazie
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2563[17:07:06] <Akuw> service restart nfs ?
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2564[17:07:09] <Akuw> right?
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2565[17:07:11] <mutante> InvisibleRasta: prego
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2566[17:07:21] <noln> Akuw, should be systemctl restart
nfs-kernel-service.service
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2567[17:07:27] <trek00> Akuw: it should be right
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2568[17:07:29] <noln> sorry, nfs-kernel-server
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2572[17:07:59] <noln> ah, missed that, sorry
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nfs-kernel-server, this you should type: service nfs-kernel-server
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and can't apply rules, any idea?
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but i only use linux as main computer
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2627[17:10:14] <u53r_4n0n_10> thanks
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old computer to use for your tests
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fine with or without systemd, it's a wrapper
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2666[17:12:50] <u53r_4n0n_10> i've read people furious with
systemd
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it seems to run fine most of the time
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2793[17:42:00] <how2test> Hey, guys! Im in the sources list and
im not quite sure on how much to edit- do i just need to replace the
debian-security sources as noted here?
replaced-url
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2794[17:42:16] <how2test> Want to upgrade to testing
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2853[17:45:45] <bouba> how2test,
replaced-url
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2871[17:47:18] <joepublic> * Don't include third party repos
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2875[17:47:40] <how2test> Thx!
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2876[17:47:51] <how2test> Wont, just want the bare bones
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2894[17:51:55] <hattkunskapz> hi, i might have a too old kernel
for my os upgrade
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2896[17:52:35] <hattkunskapz> can that be done separately?
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2906[17:54:55] <joepublic> can your kernel by itself be upgraded
to a newer kernel? yes.
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2909[17:55:47] <hattkunskapz> ok, just curious why it hasn't
been upgraded along with the os
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2914[17:57:58] <dvs> hattkunskapz, because that wouldn't be
"stable"
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2923[18:02:47] <jhutchins> hattkunskapz: Possibly because you
failed to read the release/upgrade notes and failed to do a
dist-upgrade or full-upgrade.
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2930[18:06:55] <idhugo> Can anybody help me understand this log
message: audit: type=1400 audit(1585576407.347:381):
apparmor="DENIED" operation="open"
profile="/usr/bin/evince"
name="/boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-4-amd64" pid=336260
comm="pool-evince" requested_mask="r"
denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
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2940[18:13:25] <ice9> I restarted firewalld and now there is no
rules in iptables-save, any idea?
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2944[18:14:20] <hattkunskapz> hmm, likely
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2945[18:14:30] <hattkunskapz> i have a very old debian kernel
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2946[18:14:38] <watom> how to list packages installed by default?
without any task selected in the installer
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2949[18:16:05] <greycat> !standard
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2950[18:16:05] <dpkg> standard task is, like, a "task"
that should be installed on all machines during the installer stage.
It installs packages that are important, required and standard (i.e.
"aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant").
Packages in the <essential> set are always installed. Also ask
me about <tasksel>.
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2954[18:17:20] <watom> thanks
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2956[18:17:31] <greycat> so, something like: aptitude search
\~prequired \~pimportant ... plus the essentials, which can't
be shown so easily, apparently
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2957[18:17:54] <watom> uhm isn't aptitude like legacy
thing'
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2958[18:18:01] <watom> i don't have that though
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2959[18:18:22] <lupulo> idhugo, do you use ubuntu?
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2960[18:18:43] <idhugo> Nope debian testing
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2962[18:19:14] <dvs> !debian-next
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2963[18:19:14] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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2968[18:20:50] <greycat> no, aptitude is definitely not
"legacy"
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2969[18:21:29] <watom> also "tasksel --task-packages
standard" is showing only iptables here...
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2970[18:22:03] <watom> it's like listing only what is
missing on the system
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2971[18:23:15] <ChrisH> Debian stretch, following
replaced-url
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2972[18:23:30] <ChrisH> I am unsure what updates were applied
between first success tests (2 weeks ago) and reboot on sunday. I
added IPv6 to my network on saturday but afterwards it still worked.
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2973[18:23:31] <greycat> watom: so, that command is wrong. Use
aptitude.
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2976[18:24:38] <idhugo> lupulo nope debian testing
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2980[18:26:46] <lupulo> idhugo,
replaced-url
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2984[18:27:29] <lupulo> idhugo, perhaps that it used for server
like selinux
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2985[18:28:18] <idhugo> Thanks lupulo, but can you help me
understand why the heck does evince wants to access the kernel
image?
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2988[18:28:57] <idhugo> Or whatever the relation among those... I
sincerely just need help undertanding the message... What does it
mean
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2993[18:30:41] <lupulo> idhugo, you should read the manpages
about errors
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2994[18:30:52] <lupulo> they use uppercase
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2997[18:31:27] <idhugo> Thx. Now I see I can understand the error
there. The link did not open, but I am running man on the terminal
now. Thx lupulo. Thumbs up
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3002[18:33:33] <diverdude> Hi, i am trying to do: apt-get install
libpq-dev but i get: Unable to locate package libpq-dev. Is it
called something else?
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3003[18:33:53] <greycat> apt-cache search --names-only -- libpq
-dev
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3005[18:34:13] <greycat> looks like it's still called
libpq-dev in buster, at least
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3006[18:34:28] <greycat> which release are you running, and do
you have a valid sources.list?
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3010[18:34:50] <diverdude> im on buster
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3011[18:35:10] <greycat> !buster sources.list
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3012[18:35:10] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for
"Buster" has the lines: "deb
replaced-url
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3017[18:36:13] <diverdude> greycat: ok so apt-get install
libpq-dev should be correct right?
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3018[18:36:46] <greycat> ,v libpq-dev
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3019[18:36:47] <judd> Package: libpq-dev on amd64 -- jessie:
9.4.18-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 9.4.26-0+deb8u1; stretch:
9.6.16-0+deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 9.6.17-0+deb9u1;
stretch-security: 9.6.17-0+deb9u1; buster: 11.6-0+deb10u1;
buster-proposed-updates: 11.7-0+deb10u1; buster-security:
11.7-0+deb10u1; bullseye: 12.2-1+b1; sid: 12.2-4
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3020[18:37:27] <greycat> make sure your sources.list is correct,
and run apt-get update
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3022[18:38:21] <diverdude> greycat: its because i am trying to
install it on the FROM python:3.8-slim-buster which is a debian
buster docker image, so maybe there is some issue with the sources
list?
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3029[18:41:06] <ChmEarl> diverdude, python in buster should be
3.7
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3032[18:42:16] <diverdude> Ah, this is what i need RUN
DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get update && apt-get
upgrade -y && apt-get install --no-install-recommends -y
build-essential libpq-dev
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3033[18:42:29] <greycat> He's not using Debian. He's
using some Debian derivative.
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3036[18:43:13] <BCMM> diverdude: is this a new install, by any
chance? have you ever run apt-update?
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3038[18:43:19] <BCMM> sorry, apt update
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3041[18:43:30] <diverdude> BCMM: its a docker image actually with
debian inside
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3047[18:43:53] <diverdude> BCMM: but the command i wrote above
seems to do what i need
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3048[18:43:57] <jrg> anybody know if there is a way to get alpine
to open elinks to browse?
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3049[18:44:07] <jrg> i figured it was URL-Viewers but i guess
i'm wrong
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3052[18:44:53] <BCMM> with the recent mention of docker, it took
me waaay too long to work out you were talking about the mailreader,
not the distro
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3057[18:45:52] <BCMM> diverdude: debian won't be able to
install any packages until after you do apt-get update (or an
equivalent). that's probably the bit that fixed it, not
changing the apt frontend.
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3060[18:46:24] <BCMM> (because that's the command that
downloads the list of available packages)
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3061[18:46:27] <diverdude> BCMM: ah yeah ok, that makes sense
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3072[18:47:58] <biys> i have a tl-wn727n usb wireless adapter. i
used it for the install of firmware-10.
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3073[18:48:01] <biys> everything went swimmingly
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3074[18:48:23] <biys> now that i'm booted into gnome after
the install completed i can see the wireless networks i just
can't connect to them
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3075[18:48:26] <biys> any suggestions?
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3146[19:23:36] <antto>
replaced-url
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3147[19:23:58] <antto> (all the files came out of the selected
.tar.gz file)
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3148[19:24:35] <luna_> antto: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
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3149[19:24:45] <antto> i've installed .deb packages before
with gdebi, but i don't think it was a program made of so many
packages
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3150[19:25:30] <antto> also, i have codeblocks installed at the
moment, the normal way (version 16.01 from synaptic)
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3151[19:25:39] <antto> i guess i wanna uninstall it first?
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3152[19:25:52] <sney> the newer version will upgrade over the old
one
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3154[19:26:11] <luna_> hm no idea maybe sudo apt remove
codeblocks
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3155[19:26:15] <luna_> and sudo dpkg -i *.deb
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3166[19:28:17] <biys> why would a wireless adapter work for the
install but not work once booted into the new install?
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3168[19:28:43] <antto> requires "non-free" driver?
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3169[19:29:19] <sney> if the driver worked in the installer then
it should work in the system as well
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3174[19:30:45] <biys> i used the non-free installer from the
website
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3175[19:30:48] <biys> everything went well
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3178[19:31:01] <biys> soon as i boot into the system, i can see
the wireless networks avaialbe, they just don't connect
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3179[19:31:28] <sney> what happens when you try?
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3181[19:31:53] <biys> i select the network from the list. i enter
the appropriate password
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3185[19:32:36] <biys> it sits for a minute then gives me...
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3187[19:33:05] <biys> connection failed activation of network
connection failed
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3195[19:36:21] <sney> this might be worth a shot:
replaced-url
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3198[19:36:56] <sney> otherwise try the 'command line'
instructions on the same page and see if you get a clearer error
message
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3201[19:37:44] <disillusion> can someone provide a good link
explaining what supercedes ufw settings? I'm asking this
because I sometimes set rules with ufw and they're not adhered
to.
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3203[19:38:10] <disillusion> It also makes me wonder if most
Debian users edit iptables directly rather than using an
"easy" tool such as ufw
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3204[19:38:46] <howtorx> Hello! Can somebody tell me how id go
about installing drivers for my rx460? I think i saw them missing
during boot text and the only ones i find are for ubuntu
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3206[19:39:22] <sney> howtorx: enable non-free and install the
firmware-amd-graphics package and reboot. the "driver" is
already present in the linux kernel, you just need some extra
components to enable all of the features
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3207[19:39:49] <disillusion> for example, I get people connected
on OpenVPN, using the 10.9.0.0/24 allocation, and I allow traffic to
port 443. And yet, in the ufw logs, I see traffice from 10.9.0.0/24
addresses being blocked access to port 443. And yet, the clients are
still able to access it, though sometimes there are failures.
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3208[19:39:55] <Boohbah> sney: Do current debian kernels not
support the free AMD drivers?
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3209[19:40:17] <howtorx> Im on testing, if its relevant
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3210[19:40:21] <antto> if i want to manually specify which
packages i want.. would it be dpkg -i p1.deb p2.deb p3.deb ...?
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3211[19:40:23] <Boohbah> sney: Or is it just the firmware
that's nonfree?
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3216[19:40:40] <sney> disillusion: I haven't used ufw, but
with firewalls the order of the rules is important. so if you have a
rule that doesn't seem to be matching traffic, the traffic in
question is probably matching an earlier rule
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3218[19:41:02] <sney> Boohbah: correct, the "free"
amdgpu driver still requires non-free firmware in most cases
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3219[19:41:19] <sney> antto: yep
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3220[19:41:22] <disillusion> sney, is there a config file which
shows the order of rules?
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3221[19:41:32] <sney> see: "I haven't used ufw"
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3222[19:41:36] <disillusion> I want to know what to look at
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3223[19:41:47] <sney> there is probably a manual somewhere.
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3224[19:42:47] <disillusion> what I can say is that ufw used to
work great around 2016, with Debian 8 and Ubuntu 16.04. But
something happened after then and things stopped being easy and
straight forward.
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3225[19:43:17] * disillusion misses the good old days when a simple
setting in ufw told the system what to do
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3228[19:44:32] <howtorx> Just installed the graphics, thanks, ill
reboot!
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3234[19:47:47] <JTechno> hello folks
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3235[19:47:55] <luna_> hi
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3237[19:48:50] <disillusion> It was around 2016 when I thought
Debian and derivatives worked so well for a server that I was bored
with it. Now we're back to an era of adventure and I'm
missing the days when I could set up a server in my sleep.
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3238[19:48:56] <JTechno> I want to install debian to a software
raid 0 with two identical hdds, should I add both drives to the raid
and the partition or should I partition both disks and then add the
partitions to the raid?
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3241[19:50:32] <JTechno> I'm totally new to raid, I tried to
google the question but I didn't find a satisfactory answer
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3242[19:50:54] <trek00> JTechno: it could be both, but i suggest
you to add only partitions to raid, not disks
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3244[19:51:51] <JTechno> so let's say I need three
partitions for EFI, swap and root, should I make the three
partitions to both disks?
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3245[19:51:57] <howtorx> Hey, how do i check if i run the correct
drivers?
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3247[19:52:19] <trek00> JTechno: yes, but EFI can't be on
raid
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3248[19:52:36] <trek00> JTechno: and are you sure you want raid0
and not raid1?
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3249[19:53:01] <JTechno> yes it is 0 what I want, for performance
not fault tolerance
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3250[19:53:09] <trek00> JTechno: also do not add swap to raid,
only root
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3252[19:53:47] <JTechno> ok, thank you
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3253[19:53:52] <trek00> JTechno: ok, then you need only one efi
partition to boot, you can make two swap partition (but not in raid,
they are managed like raid0 automatically)
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3254[19:54:05] <trek00> and two root partitions to be in raid
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3255[19:54:16] <JTechno> do they need to be of the same size?
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3256[19:54:32] <trek00> JTechno: for optimal performance, yes
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3257[19:54:39] <JTechno> ok
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3260[19:54:49] <JTechno> thank you very much
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3262[19:55:08] <trek00> JTechno: and if it is not an ssd, make
them on the same part of the disk (different parts have different
speed)
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3263[19:55:26] <JTechno> I understand
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3267[19:58:23] <trek00> howtorx: if you have
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu and firmware-amd-graphics it's ok
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3269[19:59:09] <howtorx> K, thx :)
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3270[19:59:39] <howtorx> Any guesses on when kde 5.18 will come
to testing?
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3272[19:59:53] <trek00> howtorx: you can try to run glxgears or
some opengl app
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3273[20:00:31] <howtorx> Already tried dota client, seemed fine
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3275[20:01:26] <howtorx> Every linux i tried my favourite dota
arcade keeps crashing, if it wont work on debian i doubt itll work
anywhere else
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3277[20:01:47] <pasiz> raid 0 cannot be on different size
partitions
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3290[20:06:47] <mason> trek00: EFI can be on MD-RAID1 if you use
metadata 1.0 or earlier.
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3291[20:07:29] <mutante> /win 4
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3296[20:08:12] <trek00> mason: it needs a raid0 root partition,
so if one disk fails, no need to have a rescue efi partition
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3299[20:08:53] <trek00> he needs, not it
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3301[20:09:12] <mason> trek00: I'd missed the desire for
RAID 0. Wouldn't recommend that for much of anything.
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3303[20:09:35] <pasiz> would be awesome, all of my data is lost,
but my efi partition is intact ;)
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3304[20:09:42] <trek00> :D
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3306[20:10:50] <dmt> Hiya, I've got a new install of Buster
that keeps making ~/.themes and ~/.icons but I want those
directories under ~/.local/share, or $XDG_DATA_HOME. Any ideas on
what I should do/where I should look for info?
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3311[20:12:51] <trek00> dmt: may be some apps you use does not
follow xdg specs
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3313[20:13:56] <pasiz> dmt: what dm you are running
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3314[20:14:54] <dmt> I'm running lightdm and the mate DE
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3343[20:27:49] <FSF-GNU-Soldier> @dmt: just wondering if perhaps
its worth trying moving ~/.icons etc to other locations and then
recreating ~/.icons as a symbolic link pointing to the desired
locations? - try in vm maybe, i'm no expert
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3345[20:28:59] <FSF-GNU-Soldier> so your ~/.icons symoblic link
points to ~/local/share locations
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3346[20:29:10] <u53r_4n0n_10> I'll SICK
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3347[20:29:37] <u53r_4n0n_10> I'll do a wipe of ALL the
programs that I've installed without necessity
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3352[20:30:34] <dmt> @FSF-GNU-Soldier, That's a good
suggestion. Unfortunately that's not entirely suitable for me
because I'm just trying to get rid of having a cluttered $HOME,
so I'd still end up with 2 extra items in my `ls -la`.
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3355[20:31:55] <dmt> Whatever is making these directories
doesn't seem to be populating them with anything, I just end up
with 2 empty directories in my ~ which I'm trying to get rid
of. I think @pasiz had a good point that it may be the DM, I'm
trying to see if I can find some info on whether they support XDG
spec.
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3356[20:32:06] <trek00> dmt: try to delete these folders, then
launch your apps one by one and check if folders are recreated and
by which app
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3358[20:32:48] <greycat> another approach is to remove the
directory, create a *file* with that name, and then see if one of
your applications generates an error message. for even more fun, set
the immutable bit on the file.
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3359[20:33:14] <trek00> nice one :)
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3360[20:33:21] <LowercaseSigma> ello
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3363[20:34:37] <trek00> greycat: i use this method to prevent
unwanted star of firefox on some users
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3364[20:35:00] <dmt> Found the culprit! Thanks @trek00. Appears
to be `mate-appearance` that's causing this.
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3365[20:35:29] <u53r_4n0n_10> Mate? mate-de?
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3367[20:35:42] <dmt> @u53r_4n0n_10, yep.
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3368[20:35:58] <u53r_4n0n_10> I didn't installed it
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3370[20:36:38] <trek00> dmt: :)
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3371[20:36:44] <u53r_4n0n_10> It was not made based on gnome2?
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3372[20:36:59] <dmt> u53r_4n0n_10: Oh, I was referring to my own
issue, sorry.
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3374[20:37:31] <nlpqda> why debian 10 (buster), keeps failing
starting all applications with prefexed by sudo from terminal?
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3375[20:37:40] <u53r_4n0n_10> oh, ait
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3376[20:37:42] <nlpqda> e.g. sudo gedit | sudo gparted
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3377[20:37:54] <nlpqda> Gtk-WARNING
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3378[20:38:25] <u53r_4n0n_10> wait, i have deb 10 i386 and
I've being having some problems...
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3387[20:42:39] <LowercaseSigma> hello
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3388[20:42:51] <LowercaseSigma> Anyone have website ideas?
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3395[20:44:34] <trek00> nlpqda: because it is not recommended to
launch graphical apps as root
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3399[20:45:57] <diverdude> i am getting: `WARNING: apt does not
have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.` is that
because i do apt install instead of apt-get install ?
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3402[20:46:26] <trek00> diverdude: yes, if you need to put it in
a script, just use apt-get
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3403[20:46:38] <diverdude> aha ok
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3404[20:46:48] <b1ack0p> diverdude: i read you as
"driverdude" :p
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3406[20:46:57] <diverdude> hahaha
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3407[20:47:03] <nlpqda> trek00: to be more accurate
"it's prohibited" this way
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3408[20:47:04] <greycat> and *that's* why I ignore users
with Docker questions...
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3409[20:47:07] <b1ack0p> lol
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3410[20:47:25] <diverdude> greycat: why?
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3411[20:47:25] <nlpqda> trek00: I still need to take my
freedom/risks
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3412[20:47:59] <u53r_4n0n_10> Ready!
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3413[20:48:05] <u53r_4n0n_10> Bye
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3416[20:48:12] <trek00> nlpqda: try with pkexec instead of sudo,
install policykit-1
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3417[20:48:15] <greycat> "I'm starting with an image,
and I plan to install it a billion trillion times, but my actual end
goal is an installation with some changed stuff, so instead of
changing the IMAGE, I plan to write the world's worst bash
script, so that after installing the image, I can download and
install new pacakges on it. a billion trillion times."
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3420[20:48:42] <greycat> "why don't you just change the
image ONCE..." "Because DOCKER!!!"
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3422[20:49:01] <BCMM> LowercaseSigma: well, that's a rather
broad question... can you narrow it down a bit? are you having
trouble setting up a web server?
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3424[20:49:46] <trek00> greycat: for example i use scripts to do
nearly the same tasks on different versions of debian
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3425[20:49:49] <LowercaseSigma> no
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3426[20:49:56] <LowercaseSigma> I just need ideasa
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3428[20:49:58] <LowercaseSigma> ideas
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3429[20:50:08] <LowercaseSigma> I've made websites before
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3432[20:50:50] <diverdude> greycat: mmm ok
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3433[20:50:57] <BCMM> LowercaseSigma: like, ideas for a topic to
make a website about? might be the wrong channel.
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3434[20:51:18] <LowercaseSigma> I don't know, can't
find a good channel for this
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3435[20:51:31] <LowercaseSigma> think of it like writers block
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3437[20:51:41] <LowercaseSigma> I just don't know what to
make
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3438[20:52:10] <BCMM> find an open-source project that's
looking for an updated site maybe?
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3439[20:52:24] <trek00> (the debian wiki) :)
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3441[20:52:28] <LowercaseSigma> :)
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3442[20:52:30] <LowercaseSigma> okay
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3443[20:52:44] <LowercaseSigma> I'm running debian on one of
my partitions :)
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3476[21:13:01] <nlpqda> trek00: I've tried pkexec already
and gave the same gtk-warning ... what is install policykit-1?
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3479[21:13:35] <nlpqda> seems like the package of pkexec
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