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21 [00:13:10] <kaosu> Does anyone here use the
apt-transport-https package and force their updates over SSL?
I'm wondering if there is a maintained list of update servers
that support https.
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24 [00:15:58] <jmcnaught> kaosu: just use
replaced-url
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28 [00:17:34] <kaosu> jmcnaught: Awesome, just what I was
looking for. Thanks.
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41 [00:29:43] <Fjorgynn> anyone here used pandoc+wkhtmltopdf?
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48 [00:34:07] <obiwahn>
replaced-url
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50 [00:34:20] <obiwahn> i have some trouble updating my database
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88 [01:00:36] <pesho> hello. I need a help with a bluetooth
89 [01:02:22] <pesho> I'm on debian 9 stretch with xfce. I
have bluez and over it I installed blueman but I can't search
for devices nor devices found the pc. Why and what to do?
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108 [01:13:32] <pesho> anyone?
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141 [01:44:35] <rebekah> i was wondering if anyone had experience
installing debian on a vps from the netisnt image (9.1), i have been
wanting to experiment with FDE on a vps following these instructions
(replaced-url
142 [01:44:37] <rebekah> exactly?
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156 [01:50:33] <petn-randall> rebekah: Is the netinstaller from
your VPS provider, or did you prepare it yourself?
157 [01:50:51] <rebekah> petn-randall: i prepared it myself
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160 [01:51:29] <petn-randall> rebekah: How exactly?
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162 [01:52:37] <rebekah> i downloaded the netinst iso and used dd
to copy the iso onto the raw disk i want to use to install from
163 [01:52:58] <rebekah> it boots the installer... so that part
worked at least
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167 [01:55:24] <tomitf> i need some help ,i don't konw how
to connect my calble modem,it is assigned IP automatically by Serice
Provider and i don't own the network account.the linux OS can
identify whether the network line is connected,but the network is
not connected,how should i setup my pc?
168 [01:55:29] <docmur> Hey guys, I'm working on a Wheezy
Server, I've done all the upgrades to it, so it's up to
date for Wheezy, my question is regarding SSH. I want to configure
SSH so that a user can use either a key + TOTP or Password + TOTP,
the SSH Version on Wheezy doesn't support AuthenticationMethods
169 [01:55:45] <rebekah> i also tried running the installed with
full virutalization instead of paraviritualization... that didnt
change the result
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192 [02:08:16] <rebekah> petn-randall: any thoughts?
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196 [02:09:10] <petn-randall> rebekah: So you put the ISO on the
same disk you want to install to?
197 [02:09:24] <petn-randall> rebekah: I don't think that
works, though I've never tried.
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199 [02:09:44] <rebekah> petn-randall: no i have two raw disk
images, one for the system (about 20G) and one for the installer
(about 512M)
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202 [02:10:32] <petn-randall> rebekah: I see. How many disks do
you see when you switch to a console and run 'ls -l
/dev/sd*'?
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204 [02:11:12] <rebekah> petn-randall: none
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209 [02:11:30] <rebekah> which is weird... because it clearly
booted >.>
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226 [02:17:17] <petn-randall> rebekah: and 'ls
/dev/vd*'?
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228 [02:18:21] <rebekah> petn-randall: none either.. the only
disk-like device in /dev/ is /dev/sr0 but that wont mount
229 [02:18:54] <petn-randall> rebekah: very weird. What does the
output of 'mount' give you?
230 [02:18:55] <RATS> Ty chanserv
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234 [02:22:30] <rebekah> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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239 [02:27:07] <petn-randall> rebekah: You could check in the
dmesg output what devices were detected during boot.
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250 [02:30:01] <rebekah> petn-randall:
replaced-url
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259 [02:35:23] <petn-randall> rebekah: Then I'd double-check
that you're passing through the block devices to the VM
properly.
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262 [02:35:53] <petn-randall> rebekah: There's also a slight
chance that the emulatated SATA/PATA/SCSI controller is not known by
Debian, but I'd see that as highly unlikely.
263 [02:37:13] <rebekah> petn-randall: yeah... there arent many
other settings i have available to me in terms of setting up block
devices... i dont see how that could be in issue... though obviously
something is
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268 [02:42:14] <kaosu> I asked earlier today and no one seemed to
know why Debian's chromium comes packaged with three different
extensions, even if you specify the --no-install-recommends flag. It
has been gnawing away at me since Debian's chromium package is
the only version I have ever seen do this and I would really like to
get to the bottom of this. Does anyone happen to have any
information about this?
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276 [02:46:23] <petn-randall> kaosu: I'd check the
readme/changelog on /usr/share/doc/chromium/ for hints.
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293 [03:02:11] <|subz3r0|> hi
294 [03:02:42] <|subz3r0|> i compiled the newest version of
openvpn in debian 9. actually there arent any init scripts to start
it at boot
295 [03:02:49] <|subz3r0|> any ideas how i can easily fix that?
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315 [03:16:59] <rebekah> petn-randall: so after a little more
poking around... the installer does work with
full-virtualization.... im guessing this means that the issue is the
debian installer doesnt have the virtio drivers
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325 [03:23:28] <petn-randall> ,v openvpn
326 [03:23:29] <judd> Package: openvpn on amd64 -- wheezy:
2.2.1-8+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 2.2.1-8+deb7u5; wheezy-backports:
2.3.2-7~bpo70+2; jessie-security: 2.3.4-5+deb8u2; jessie:
2.3.4-5+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 2.4.0-6+deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch:
2.4.0-6+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2.4.0-6+deb9u1; stretch-backports:
2.4.3-4~bpo9+1; sid: 2.4.3-4; buster: 2.4.3-4
327 [03:23:50] <petn-randall> |subz3r0|: Is there a reason you
didn't want to use the openvpn shipped with Debian?
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330 [03:27:47] <|subz3r0|> it's too old and there were
several fixes
331 [03:28:05] <|subz3r0|> with debian shipped is v2.4.0. newest
is 2.4.3
332 [03:28:35] <petn-randall> |subz3r0|: Any security fixes get
backported, so unless you need a feature from 2.4.3 that's not
in 2.4.0 from Debian, there's no reason to update.
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369 [03:56:02] <MarioMey> Hi, there. Because a problem with huge
system logs... I have no space in disk. I removed those files (6GB *
3 files)... but Debian still says there's no space.
370 [03:56:59] <MarioMey> Is there any command (like
"sync") that tells Debian that, right now, there is free
space in disc?
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372 [03:57:30] <MarioMey> I ask this, because, I can't press
Tab key to autocomplete, because it says:
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374 [03:57:43] <MarioMey> ls bash: no se puede crear un fichero
temporal para el documento-aquí: No queda espacio en el
dispositivo
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377 [03:58:12] <MarioMey> I can't / don't want to
reboot machine (it would be a solution), because I'm
downloading a movie.
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379 [03:58:27] <MarioMey> (by web and it's sloooow...)
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386 [04:03:44] <th0r> MarioMey, how did you remove them? If you
deleted from a file manager they may not be gone...just moved to
Trash
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388 [04:04:47] <petn-randall> MarioMey: What logs were that? If
whatever writes that log is still running and holding a file
descriptor, it won't release the storage until it's
terminated.
389 [04:05:29] <wonderfulmee> disgusting arabs just went away
with a takeover on #linux, of all things
390 [04:05:58] <bazhang> !ops | wonderfulmee
391 [04:05:58] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang
complains about: | wonderfulmee
392 [04:06:14] <bazhang> wonderfulmee, dont start that here
393 [04:06:31] <wonderfulmee> who had a bright idea to provide
sand arabs with op privs
394 [04:07:13] <wonderfulmee> I mean I'd understand
#racecarsthatcantintodesert
395 [04:07:25] <wonderfulmee> #linux, ffs.
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397 [04:08:28] <wonderfulmee> channel founder that not only one,
but two saudi arabians were necessary
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399 [04:08:42] <wonderfulmee> degeneratism
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404 [04:10:51] <peterrooney> MarioMey: df -h may help
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406 [04:12:23] <wonderfulmee> rather lsof
407 [04:12:42] <jrmu> Hurray, I got my AR9271 wifi card working
on debian using the open firmware (ath9k_htc). I'm very
pleased, thanks for all the support #debian
408 [04:14:05] <MarioMey> peterrooney: df only tells me some
information...
409 [04:14:18] <MarioMey> But does nothing of what I need.
410 [04:14:51] <wonderfulmee> MarioMey, lsof -n |grep
"filename"
411 [04:15:03] <MarioMey> th0r: I did "sudo rm
/var/log/messages".
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413 [04:15:19] <MarioMey> petn-randall: Ohh.... I understand...
414 [04:15:24] <wonderfulmee> why in the world would you do that
415 [04:16:26] <wonderfulmee> reboot and forget about it.
I'd say save any work you might have done, but who are we
kidding here
416 [04:16:51] <bazhang> wonderfulmee, thats no kind of support
417 [04:17:16] <wonderfulmee> because support is <MarioMey>
th0r: I did "sudo rm /var/log/messages".
418 [04:17:37] <wonderfulmee> he obviously doesn't care/want
to do lsof. best thing for him to free that FD is to reboot
419 [04:18:10] <wonderfulmee> and stop typing in random commands
verbatim
420 [04:18:41] <pacha> so I have no anti-aliasing in text on
GTK/QT applications, it affects the menus, text in buttons, etc.
anti-aliasing works with everything else, using Xfce and Jessie. how
would I fix it?
421 [04:18:50] <MarioMey> I didn't know about lsof.
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424 [04:19:49] <wonderfulmee> pacha: Windows 10's got all
the anti-aliasing.
425 [04:19:59] <wonderfulmee> in all kinds and forms.
426 [04:20:26] <wonderfulmee> until then, certainly go ahead and
rm /var/log/messages
427 [04:20:45] <wonderfulmee> does it help anyone? Seriously
doubt that
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430 [04:22:38] <wonderfulmee> pacha: tell your grandson to buy
you a proper Windows 10 laptop.
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432 [04:22:58] <wonderfulmee> doesn't cost that much.
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438 [04:32:00] <wonderfulmee> gentoo doesn't accept me.
they're saying they're recompiling chromium and libre
office for a reason.
439 [04:32:21] <wonderfulmee> I guess that's a positive
outlook at life.
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441 [04:33:27] <wonderfulmee> all those -O6's are really
helping with the performance.
442 [04:33:42] <wonderfulmee> that is when you're not
compiling random siht.
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447 [04:35:12] <wonderfulmee> which is all the time. I ran a
headless gentoo for a year. that was an exercise in humility
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449 [04:35:48] <wonderfulmee> I wonder however long it takes them
to compile X
450 [04:36:05] <bazhang> wonderfulmee, this is not your blog
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453 [04:36:22] <wonderfulmee> what do you honestly care.
it's downtime
454 [04:36:27] <bazhang> wonderfulmee, it's a support
channel for debian'
455 [04:36:43] <wonderfulmee> how many open support tickets are
we seeing here
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457 [04:36:57] <bazhang> #debian-offtopic is for chatting
wonderfulmee NOT here
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459 [04:37:37] <wonderfulmee> will relocate. but that's the
attitude that scars (no missing "e") people
460 [04:37:55] <bazhang> wonderfulmee, thats nonsense
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462 [04:38:26] <petn-randall> wonderfulmee: Try keeping the
signal-to-noise low, thanks.
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464 [04:38:51] <wonderfulmee> it's night in most of Europe
so you're seeing zero traffic
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466 [04:39:13] <wonderfulmee> I'm not rambling about a lost
love
467 [04:39:20] <bazhang> that does not make this channel your
bloggin station
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469 [04:39:53] <wonderfulmee> I'm not standing in the way of
a lost soul that doesn't know how to configure a Cisco VPN from
within Debian
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471 [04:40:21] <wonderfulmee> any other channel, people would
chill
472 [04:40:42] <petn-randall> wonderfulmee: Do you have a Debian
support question?
473 [04:40:52] <wonderfulmee> I'm ready to answer one
474 [04:41:15] <bazhang> petn-randall, he did this for near four
hours in another channel, he thinks it's his human right to
blog here
475 [04:41:51] <wonderfulmee> nice form
476 [04:42:47] <wonderfulmee> calm down, Pajit, white person
going to sleep soon
477 [04:43:03] <bazhang> what!
478 [04:43:13] <petn-randall> wonderfulmee: Please go troll
elsewhere
479 [04:43:29] <wonderfulmee> I'm not trolling, rather
filling the void
480 [04:43:40] <wonderfulmee> trolling involves other people
481 [04:44:04] <jim> wonderfulmee, filling in a void is not a
good idea if you don't have traffic
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486 [04:44:48] <wonderfulmee> well I'm not hurting anyone,
but I got your point.
487 [04:45:19] <peterrooney> !off topic
488 [04:45:20] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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490 [04:45:42] <wonderfulmee> gotcha
491 [04:46:14] <jim> it's attantion you'/re after,
that's what it is
492 [04:47:12] <wonderfulmee> filling the void, as I said earlier
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494 [04:47:50] <bazhang> this is not some blog whitespace
495 [04:47:55] <jim> I dunno for sure, but I would think
it's not yours to fill
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497 [04:48:01] <bazhang> there is NO void to be filled, ever
498 [04:48:30] <wonderfulmee> I'm not sure it's
anyone's in particular. Still see no harm in that
499 [04:48:49] <TacoGS> I am slowly going blind if that is what
you mean as harm, you're not good for my health
500 [04:48:55] <bazhang> wonderfulmee, it is. the channel owners
and ops
501 [04:49:14] <wonderfulmee> Pajing, know your place and time.
502 [04:49:33] <bazhang> wonderfulmee, stop with the racist slurs
503 [04:49:44] <jim> you're making them pay attention to
you, something you seem to be attracting for a purpose
504 [04:49:54] <peterrooney> wonderfulmee: don't fool
yourself. your racist tripe that you started with *has* hurt people.
505 [04:50:06] <bazhang> his entry here was filled with racist
slurs
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507 [04:50:33] <peterrooney> !ops wonderfulmee offtopic plus
slurs
508 [04:50:33] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: peterrooney
complains about: wonderfulmee offtopic plus slurs
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510 [04:51:13] <wonderfulmee> look at the conversation we're
having
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512 [04:51:39] <jim> anyway I'm not going to respond here to
you any more as long as what you say is off topic, if I do, I'm
helping you "fill the void" and it's operating kinda
like a smurf attack, so this is my final response
513 [04:52:00] <wonderfulmee> jim: that's not the kind of
attention random drunk people are looking to attract
514 [04:52:28] <bazhang> wonderfulmee, just leave
515 [04:52:31] <wonderfulmee> what's wrong with
"filling the void", anyway? honestly
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517 [04:53:33] <wonderfulmee> everyone's sleeping.
supposedly. everyone's free to ask the burning debian questions
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520 [04:53:46] <wonderfulmee> I might actually answer two or
three
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522 [04:54:08] <wonderfulmee> why the need to keep it sterile.
it's not like you're building a FAQ out of it
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526 [04:54:59] <wonderfulmee> I was rambling, but rambling about
Gentoo, fhs. In a non-offensive way.
527 [04:55:45] <wonderfulmee> Questions still get to be answered.
It's just that it's an absolutely dead period for them.
528 [04:56:02] <bazhang> wonderfulmee> disgusting arabs just
went away with a takeover on #linux, of all things
529 [04:56:06] <bazhang> that
530 [04:56:18] <wonderfulmee> that too.
531 [04:56:26] <bazhang> and no void wants that racist garbage,
ever
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533 [04:56:41] <bazhang> so just leave and now wonderfulmee
534 [04:56:49] <wonderfulmee> thanks, Vihaan.
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548 [05:06:29] <jrmu> Are there any other wifi cards with open
firmware that work well with debian?
549 [05:06:29] <jrmu> Besides the AR9271 chips
550 [05:06:54] <bazhang> intel
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554 [05:08:31] <jrmu> bazhang: Can you tell me the exact model
number? I will look into it
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560 [05:09:09] <bazhang> jrmu, I have had several,the olderst
being the intel 3945
561 [05:09:26] <bazhang> thats in the kernel at this point
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563 [05:09:58] <bazhang> jrmu, I would say most anything intel,
apart from the very newest released
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576 [05:26:49] <jrmu> bazhang: Ah, interesting. Fully supported
by debian without any extra installation, just plug in and it
instantly works with open firmware?
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590 [05:34:05] <jim> jrmu, one big problem with wifi is it's
radio (and software controlled) at its core, and the government(s)
have control issues with that, they just have to get their hands in
it and not let people do what they want... who knows all the reasons
why, could go pretty far up the chain... point is, I don't know
that any wireless is out that has open-source firmware. having said
that, we can probably find a way to make yours work, with or without
open-source
591 [05:34:05] <jim> firmware (having said -that-, if a card is
too new, that could be a problem)
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598 [05:38:03] <jrmu> jim: hmm, I see. I didn't realize that
government restrictions played a role. I bought a wifi card with the
AR9271 chipset, and so far have gotten it to work with the ath9k_htc
open firmware for debian. I've been quite pleased with it.
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601 [05:39:00] <jrmu> The card works great for connecting to wifi
access points. However, what I really want next is to set up a wifi
access point using debian.
602 [05:39:01] <jrmu> to have my access point be a fully open OS
603 [05:39:17] <jim> jrmu, oh, good... so you don't actually
have an issue with the card (or even another card) you're using
now?
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605 [05:40:01] <jrmu> jim: currently, no. I got it all working
and have been quite pleased. :) I'm just looking into what
cards I might pick up in the future
606 [05:40:51] <jim> oh, ok... maybe some additional info could
be waiting on
hardware and networking
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613 [05:51:15] <jrmu> jim: thanks
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624 [05:55:48] <Blendify> Hi, I need some help figuring out which
image file to download. I want to mount it to a usb drive and
install on an amd64 pc and I also want to use xfce desktop
environment can someone point me to the correct download?
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626 [05:57:11] <PipeItToDevNull>
replaced-url
627 [05:57:58] <wonderfulmee> okay, I just checked and those Dell
monsters cost 685EUR locally
628 [05:58:07] <PipeItToDevNull> but honeslty, anything that says
amd64 can install xfce
629 [05:58:10] <wonderfulmee> from a single retailer
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631 [05:58:39] <wonderfulmee> nah, there's 32 of them.
that's the average price
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633 [05:59:03] <wonderfulmee> it's listed as TFT IPS
634 [05:59:14] <wonderfulmee> I was under the impression that
it's either or
635 [06:00:18] <wonderfulmee> 3840x2160 (16:9)
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637 [06:01:07] <wonderfulmee> OP with 3 of them, how do they
downscale?
638 [06:01:12] <wonderfulmee> in games
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640 [06:02:17] <wonderfulmee> very much blurring? moderate
blurring? soap blurring?
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643 [06:03:26] <jmcnaught> wonderfulmee: this has something to do
with Debian?
644 [06:03:38] <wonderfulmee> I don't want to imagine the
kind of Dual 1080Ti to run them in their natural resolution
645 [06:04:11] <wonderfulmee> ah, wrong channel, do excuse me
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664 [06:21:48] <jim> jrmu, welcome
665 [06:23:22] <wonderfulmee> and good morning to all and
everyone running linux because it's obligatory that everyone
says linux unless it's someone who knows somebody then they
don't have to say linux so I guess I made it weird enough for
everyone.
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681 [06:39:05] <Kel> wonderfulmee: well xD Good morning to you
too!
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747 [07:42:00] <jarray52> When doing a Vanilla upgrade of Debian,
one of the packages hung.
748 [07:42:19] <jarray52> Unpacking openjdk-7-jdk:amd64
(7u131-2.6.9-2~deb8u1) over (7u121-2.6.8-2~deb8u1) ...
749 [07:42:38] <jarray52> What is the recommended course of
action?
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757 [07:51:13] <nkuttler> jarray52: paste.debian.net the command
+ entire output
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793 [08:21:01] <Fusl> 185.17.185.185 (in the snapshot.debian.org
DNS rotation) throws a 503 error:
replaced-url
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796 [08:22:40] <hgkj434> hi
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826 [08:54:23] <cujotus> girls love linux guys
827 [08:54:46] <well_laid_lawn> that's optimistic...
828 [08:56:04] <xormor> cujotus, when I was together with my ex,
I gave her a Linux computer to browse the web with. I put Linux Mint
on it, and put the icon for Firefox on the desktop and told her to
double click it to use the Web. She wanted to keep the computer for
free, but I wanted it back. It was a desktop computer. I had gotten
it from a friend.
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830 [08:56:39] <cujotus> free sex
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839 [09:06:52] <Nawab> why is firefox so fscked up? in my system?
840 [09:07:04] <Nawab> never ever loads up fast enough
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842 [09:08:34] <wadadli> How about you ask better questions?
843 [09:08:34] <Nawab> anyways brb
844 [09:08:45] <Nawab> -_-
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850 [09:11:35] <eck> casual sexism in #debian
851 [09:11:37] <eck> why not
852 [09:11:38] <David_Hedlund> HTML5 is playing 3 times as fast
as normal. I have no idea why this is happening, can someone give me
a hint?
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855 [09:12:15] <David_Hedlund> The problem occurs in any browser.
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859 [09:17:08] <wadadli> What are you talking about!
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877 [09:32:49] <teroshan> I'm trying to boot my beaglebone
with NFS, connected directly to my laptop with an ethernet cable. I
managed to make it work after a few issues. However, everytime I
boot the board the ethernet link goes down, and I lose the IP I
assigned to the eth interface on my laptop.
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880 [09:33:09] <teroshan> The boot on the beaglebone freezes
until I manually assign the IP on the laptop eth interface again
881 [09:33:25] <teroshan> Is there any way to make the IP stick
after the link goes down?
882 [09:33:50] <teroshan> On the beaglebone side the IP is
assigned via the DHCP server that runs on the laptop, so no issues
there
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884 [09:34:19] <teroshan> I tried modifying
/etc/networks/interface, but it only works if I manually bring the
interface down and up, not when the link goes down
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945 [10:23:58] <teroshan> Regarding my problems with the ip
address not sticking after the link goes down, I ended up activating
Network Manager. Thanks to the voodoo black magic it does in the
background it work flawlessly now!
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965 [10:34:47] <roger21> hum ... fresh debian 9 on laptop (before
i disable all suspend) how do i wake it up from suspend (to disk it
seems)?
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975 [10:42:21] <nkuttler> roger21: open the lid?
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979 [10:44:24] <roger21> nkuttler, yeah i tried that ... i also
kicked the keaybord and the trackpoint and tried a lot of key
comibinations
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982 [10:46:10] <roger21> at least the suspend works (kind of)
983 [10:46:40] <nkuttler> roger21: try the power button?
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986 [10:46:50] <roger21> (i feel like i never seen a suspend
working right out of the box)
987 [10:46:57] <roger21> yeah i tried too
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989 [10:47:16] <nkuttler> roger21: what happens when you push it?
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991 [10:47:27] <nkuttler> does the machine just boot normally?
992 [10:47:30] <roger21> lol, it depends of the duration of the
pushing
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994 [10:47:52] <nkuttler> roger21: that somewhat sounds like the
suspend goes wrong
995 [10:47:55] <roger21> what oh err... good question
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997 [10:48:17] <roger21> it seems to reboot without resuming
indeed
998 [10:48:40] <nkuttler> yeah, either suspend doesn't
complete, of your resume configuration is incorrect
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1000 [10:48:53] <nkuttler> the former is probably more likely. if
you can enable remote logging do that
1001 [10:49:05] <nkuttler> or try to suspend from the command
line, and see if there is any useful output
1002 [10:49:17] <nkuttler> could be though that the video hardware
suspends fine and there is a problem later
1003 [10:49:39] <roger21> hum what's the command?
1004 [10:50:14] <nkuttler> not sure really.. i think i use
pm-suspend from pm-utils
1005 [10:50:22] <roger21> hmmm
1006 [10:50:28] <nkuttler> but with systemd everywhere nowadays..
who knows
1007 [10:50:51] <nkuttler> !suspend troubleshooting
1008 [10:50:51] <roger21> damn here it comes ...
1009 [10:50:51] <dpkg> A guide for troubleshooting suspend-to-RAM
and suspend-to-disk problems is at
replaced-url
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1053 [11:21:03] <MachineGun> why does Fuchs like sticking things
in his rear end?
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1055 [11:21:16] <MachineGun> is he one of the queerosexual
transfaggits
1056 [11:21:26] <MachineGun> or just a witch of some sort?
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1058 [11:21:53] <teraflops> MachineGun: wrong channel
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1063 [11:24:06] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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1068 [11:25:13] <Sabotender> hi, im having trouble setting up a
network printer and printing to it
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1070 [11:25:56] <Sabotender> all of my test prints have failed and
I am not sure what to do. when I add a printer, it finds the printer
on the network immediately but no matter which protocol I choose, it
always comes up with an error
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1072 [11:26:25] <teraflops> Sabotender: network printer can be
many things, mind being a bit more specific?
1073 [11:27:31] <Sabotender> I really don't know much about
how linux handles printers. Its usually a simple process of adding
my printer in windows and osx (both which have been successful)
1074 [11:27:43] <Sabotender> you would have to ask a specific
question
1075 [11:27:50] <teraflops> e.g a built-in network printer has
nothing to do with the OS you run, since it's embedded in the
printer itself
1076 [11:28:36] <teraflops> it's wired? wireless? it has
built in network support, is the printer shared by another device?
1077 [11:28:47] <Sabotender> my HP laser jet pro has wireless
functionality built in, and it is connected to my wireless network
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1080 [11:29:39] <Sabotender> I am running Cinnamon on Debian
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1082 [11:29:53] <teraflops> Sabotender: oh, wireless, I have no
idea
1083 [11:29:56] <teraflops> sorry
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1085 [11:30:26] <Sabotender> why is that important? its a printer
on the network. it would be just the same as if the printer had an
ethernet port built in
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1087 [11:30:47] <teraflops> Sabotender: well, then install cups
1088 [11:31:01] <teraflops> what did you do till now?
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1091 [11:31:19] <Sabotender> well, I opened print settigns in
cinnamon, and pressed 'add printer'
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1095 [11:31:52] <teraflops> Sabotender: take a look at
replaced-url
1096 [11:31:54] <Sabotender> pops up the add printer interface,
and I clicked on the network printer arrow, which found my printer
on the network immediately along with its ip address
1097 [11:32:11] <Matan[M]> hi, is there a debian live "no
UI" version somewhere?
1098 [11:32:26] <Sabotender> I clicked on that, and it gave me
several protocols to choose from. I tried all the protocols listed
and tried to print the test page, which failed
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1101 [11:32:56] <Matan[M]> i have to check an old server with 1GHz
cpu and 1mb video memory
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1103 [11:33:44] <maxcell_> 1mb video memory
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1105 [11:33:49] <maxcell_> ^^
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1107 [11:34:17] <jelly> Matan[M], live images tend to use a lot of
RAM, that's going to be the major bottleneck if less than say
0.5 GB
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1110 [11:34:49] <Matan[M]> jelly, seems like it have 1GB of DDR
memory
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1112 [11:35:21] <jelly> Matan[M], if you just want to recover some
data off of it, consider using a recovery-oriented live image.
grml.org is nice and based on debian.
1113 [11:35:26] <sokeman1> is anyone online?
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1116 [11:35:32] <sokeman1> need some help
1117 [11:35:37] <jelly> !ask
1118 [11:35:37] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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1120 [11:36:07] <sokeman1> i stupidly ran rf kill and now its
hardblocked
1121 [11:36:09] <Sabotender> I'm pretty sure that cups is
installed
1122 [11:36:24] <Sabotender> I typed in 'whereis cups'
and got a meaningful response
1123 [11:36:41] <jelly> Matan[M], 1GB ought to be enough even for
current debian live, but I'd have to read the docs to find out
if there's a way to boot it to text mode directly
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1125 [11:37:30] <jelly> sokeman1, unplug power, unplug battery,
leave for 5-10 seconds, plug everything in and power on
1126 [11:37:46] <sokeman1> ok ill try
1127 [11:37:47] <Scrutinizer> Sabotender: is it running? Check if
you get a response at
replaced-url
1128 [11:37:48] <Matan[M]> jelly, it's an old LaCie Ethernet
1TB nas, it has a windows xp embended and c3vcm3 mobo, i dont care
that much about recovery, i got this from my work for free, there
are 2x500GB ide drves, I don't even have adapter for that, just
want to check few things with LSusb/pci/cpu
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1130 [11:38:19] <Matan[M]> and installing os on ide drive gonna be
pain
1131 [11:38:24] <jelly> Matan[M], then just boot grml.org if you
can and get your lspci out
1132 [11:38:34] <Matan[M]> jelly, thx mate
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1135 [11:39:17] <jelly> its bios might be crippled, see if
there's a community for those specific NAS somewhere
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1138 [11:39:52] <Matan[M]> jelly, its standard phoenix bios
1139 [11:39:53] <jelly> there may be special procedures in place
needed to boot off usb
1140 [11:40:01] <Matan[M]> well i think moded by via
1141 [11:40:04] <jelly> that's promising
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1143 [11:40:45] <Matan[M]> but in boot section i can see
fdd/zip/hdd/cd/lan/usb-fdd/usb-cd/usb-hdd
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1145 [11:41:15] <Matan[M]> well, i had somewhere zip drive but
might be dead after years
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1149 [11:42:20] <Sabotender> Scrutinizer: absolutely. the web
interface pops up
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1152 [11:43:14] <Scrutinizer> Sabotender: do you have the
apropriate ppd file for your printer?
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1155 [11:44:18] <Sabotender> the status of the print test page is:
stopped "Filter failed"
1156 [11:44:37] <Sabotender> Scrutinizer: hmm I am not sure. how
do I check for this?
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1158 [11:45:05] <Sabotender> the printer is shown to be added in
the CUPS web interface, and I tried to print a test page from there
1159 [11:45:13] <teraflops> Sabotender: did you take a look at the
link I posted?
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1164 [11:46:03] <Sabotender> teraflops: yes. I saw that link
during my own googling for the answer before I began asking
questions on IRC
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1167 [11:46:39] <teraflops> did you install any hp-related
package?
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1171 [11:47:12] <Sabotender> it appears the driver is already
included on my system
1172 [11:47:12] <teraflops> also do you know if your printer is
supported or has issues under debian/linux in general?
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1174 [11:47:46] <teraflops> because printers can be a pain in the
ass, hp has good support though
1175 [11:47:51] <Sabotender> according to the CUPS web tool:
Driver: HP LaserJet Pro MFP m127fw, hpcups 3.16.11, requires
proprietary plugin (color)
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1179 [11:48:36] <Scrutinizer> "requires proprietary
plugin" should catch your eye... ;)
1180 [11:48:40] <teraflops> hehe
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1182 [11:48:48] <Sabotender> Connection:
hp:/net/HP_LaserJet_Pro_MFP_M127fw?ip=10.0.0.15
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1185 [11:49:02] <teraflops> I bet googling that very message spits
useful info
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1187 [11:49:19] <Sabotender> Scrutinizer: I saw that. I figured it
was just letting me know that the plugin used is proprietary.
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1189 [11:49:37] <Scrutinizer> Sabotender: Did you install the
hplip package?
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1193 [11:50:44] <cujotus> sabotager :)
1194 [11:51:04] <cujotus> so whats up otherwise?
1195 [11:51:15] <Sabotender> Scrutinizer: looks like it is already
installed
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1197 [11:51:34] <pingfloyd> Sabotender: one thing to do is read up
on your printer here
replaced-url
1198 [11:51:49] <pingfloyd> Sabotender: but for installing needed
things, go through debian itself as much as you can
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1200 [11:53:37] <jelly> Matan[M], that looks rather dated...
usb-hdd is probably the right thing
1201 [11:54:17] <jelly> followed by usb-cd if usb-hdd fails
1202 [11:54:53] <Sabotender> dpkg -l hplip produces: ii hplip
3.16.11+repa i386 HP Linux Printing and Imaging Sys
1203 [11:54:53] <dpkg> No packages found matching hplip produces:
ii hplip 3.16.11+repa i386 HP Linux Printing and Imaging Sys
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1205 [11:55:19] <Sabotender> so its definitely installed, per:
replaced-url
1206 [11:55:32] <Matan[M]> jelly, hmm... its not booting up, set
up all 1st/2nd/3rd for all usb-XXX devices, stuck in post on
Verifying DMI Pool Data :| it's 32GB usb prepared in rufus, it
might be that
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1209 [11:55:46] <Matan[M]> 32GB is a bit an overkill
1210 [11:55:47] <jelly> cujotus, are you a bot?
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1214 [11:56:45] <jelly> Matan[M], write the grml or debian live
usb image directly to stick, avoid rufus or unetbootin
1215 [11:57:08] <jelly> of course you will lose any other data
already on it, that way
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1217 [11:57:24] <jelly> so something like cp blah.iso /dev/sdf
1218 [11:57:34] <jelly> on windows, use win32diskimager
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1220 [11:58:08] <cujotus> jelly: atleast I would like jetpack
1221 [11:58:11] <Matan[M]> jelly, got them, ill have a look
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*!*@ip-36-115-8d01-7966-38c3-adcf.dhcp6.opintanner.fi$##not-a-honeypot
1225 [11:58:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o jelly
1226 [11:58:33] <jelly> I'm taking that as a "yes"
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1228 [11:59:03] <jelly> <jelly> cujotus, are you a bot?
1229 [11:59:03] <jelly> <cujotus> jelly: atleast I would
like jetpack
1230 [11:59:06] <jelly> oops
1231 [11:59:27] <bazhang> jelly'a BOT!
1232 [11:59:29] <teraflops> xD
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1234 [12:01:38] <Sabotender> pingfloyd: I really looked though
that list and my printer is not even there
1235 [12:01:51] <hexhaxtron> Can someone help me reset a root
password in MariaDB?
1236 [12:02:11] <jelly> !ifmrp
1237 [12:02:11] <dpkg> If you've forgotten the <MySQL>
root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables;
mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET
Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE
User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld;
/etc/init.d/mysql start See also
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1238 [12:02:33] <jelly> hexhaxtron, probably still the same as ^^
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1241 [12:03:10] <jelly> make sure mysqld process is really dead
after the initial stopping of the service
1242 [12:03:41] <Matan[M]> jelly, yup, its working with win32DI
1243 [12:03:50] <jelly> \o/
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1245 [12:04:00] <Matan[M]> jelly, thank you
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1248 [12:04:11] <jelly> you're welcome
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1250 [12:04:50] <Matan[M]> im wonder now what the hell i can do
with this nas/server
1251 [12:06:03] <Matan[M]> 2x500gb ide drives, max 4x3,5 drives in
case, but this crap have onboard 10/100 ethenet card + 1free pci
slot, so raid sata card or 10/100/1000 ethernet card :|
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1253 [12:07:02] <Matan[M]> well... ill finish making spec of it
and photos
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1260 [12:10:30] <Matan[M]> jelly, well i was lucky as hell with
pickin up usb port for usb
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1279 [12:23:36] <hexhaxtron> jelly: can you help with this?
replaced-url
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1290 [12:34:19] <jelly> dpkg, tell hexhaxtron about basic apt
troubleshooting
1291 [12:34:33] <sokeman1> hi can someone help im hardblocked i
stupidly rfkill all
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1294 [12:35:09] <jelly> sokeman1, power cycle did not make a
difference?
1295 [12:35:15] <sokeman1> nope
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1299 [12:36:13] <jelly> and you don't have an actual hardware
switch somewhere?
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1301 [12:36:33] <jelly> sokeman1, what about a Fn-combo somewhere?
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1305 [12:37:03] <sokeman1> ive only got a flight mode button and
it does nothing
1306 [12:37:05] <jelly> if there's a Fn-Something for
wireless, press it once, then see what rfkill says again
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1308 [12:37:13] <teraflops> sokeman1: also are you using a DE? as
in gnome or similar? they have witches for wireless/bt
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1313 [12:37:26] <jelly> ,v galera-3
1314 [12:37:27] <judd> Package: galera-3 on amd64 -- stretch:
25.3.19-2; sid: 25.3.20-1; buster: 25.3.20-1
1315 [12:37:28] <sokeman1> im using kali
1316 [12:37:33] <jelly> !kali
1317 [12:37:33] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
1318 [12:37:43] <teraflops> ^^
1319 [12:38:00] <hexhaxtron> jelly: this?
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1320 [12:38:06] <jelly> sokeman1, ask in the right place, we
don't know if or what kali changed anything
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1322 [12:38:31] <sokeman1> there is apparently a way to do it, but
i need to transfer a file from win to kali and im not sure how to do
it
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1327 [12:39:11] <jelly> hexhaxtron, apt-cache policy for all the
packages mentioned anywhere, that includes [...] galera-3{a} gawk{a}
mariadb-server mariadb-server-10.1{a} mariadb-server-core-10.1{a}
socat{a}
1328 [12:39:17] <jelly> without {a}
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1330 [12:40:07] <BluesKaj> sokeman1, read the dpkg Kali post above
1331 [12:40:38] <hexhaxtron> jelly:
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1332 [12:41:22] <jelly> okay, so that all looks normal
1333 [12:41:40] <jelly> hexhaxtron, is there an old mysqld process
running somewhere?
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1335 [12:42:05] <hexhaxtron> jelly: with ps aux|grep mysql?
1336 [12:42:19] <jelly> that's one of the ways, sure
1337 [12:42:28] <hexhaxtron> jelly: no, nothing.
1338 [12:42:40] <jelly> grep mysqld /var/log/daemon.log
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1344 [12:44:00] <hexhaxtron> jelly:
replaced-url
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1350 [12:46:10] <jelly> hexhaxtron, you got some very unusual
errors at around 11:20. What did you try to do before this
installation?
1351 [12:46:13] <armin> so i was just reading a blog post from
lennart poettering in 2010 where he claims that locking under POSIX
would be "broken".
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1352 [12:46:14] <armin> nowadays?
1353 [12:47:36] <hexhaxtron> jelly: MariaDB was working properly
but I couldn't change the root password so I deleted
/etc/mysql/ and did aptitude purge mariadb-server and aptitude
install mariadb-server...
1354 [12:47:44] <jelly> armin, uh, try it and see? I'm not
sure this is a Debian-specific issue
1355 [12:48:25] <jelly> hexhaxtron, you did not purge all the
packages that bring /etc/mysql, then. Do you have any data in in the
database worth keeping?
1356 [12:48:35] <hexhaxtron> jelly: no.
1357 [12:48:45] <jelly> hexhaxtron, dpkg -S /etc/mysql
1358 [12:48:54] <armin> jelly: fair enough. :)
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1360 [12:49:06] <hexhaxtron> jelly: mariadb-server-10.1:
/etc/mysql
1361 [12:49:12] <jelly> hexhaxtron, see if you can purge all the
server and probably common packages there.
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1363 [12:49:16] <jelly> just that one?
1364 [12:49:21] <hexhaxtron> jelly: yes.
1365 [12:50:10] <jelly> hexhaxtron, should be something more like:
mariadb-common, mariadb-client-10.1, mariadb-server-10.1,
mysql-common: /etc/mysql
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1370 [12:50:41] <hexhaxtron> jelly: I don't know... I only
have that line.
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1372 [12:51:24] <Matan[M]> do you have any experience with CF-IDE
adapters?
1373 [12:51:44] <Matan[M]> is it worth to use like 4GB CF card for
server?
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1375 [12:51:52] <hexhaxtron> jelly: should I purge all the ones
you said?
1376 [12:52:07] <Matan[M]> or it will kill card with read/write
cycles?
1377 [12:53:45] <J4ck_The_Stripp3> Hi Guys, if got a question
maybe someone can help me there. If i install Ubuntu or Mint on my
Macbook everything works fine, but i would love to use Debian. Is
there a debian version with all the driver inside? so that i can use
my touchpad like on mint and ubuntu? or a way to install those
drivers manually
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1379 [12:56:23] <hexhaxtron> jelly?
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1383 [12:59:09] <BluesKaj> J4ck_The_Stripp3, I have debian stretch
on my Lenovo G500 laptop and the touchpad works fine with the
default driver
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1386 [13:00:20] <BluesKaj> J4ck_The_Stripp3, but debian on mac may
be a different story
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1389 [13:01:19] <J4ck_The_Stripp3> Its something with the mac i
think. Im just wondering because on mint an ubuntu everything works
fine. are there different drivers on mint and ubuntu then on debian
stretch?
1390 [13:02:44] <BluesKaj> dunno, have you looked here ?
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1395 [13:03:54] <jelly> hexhaxtron, I'd try that yes
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1400 [13:04:27] <hexhaxtron> jelly: I purged everything and then
installed everything but I still got the mariadb-server problem...
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1402 [13:05:22] <J4ck_The_Stripp3> BluesKaj , thanks i will check
this out!
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1405 [13:05:49] <akkadian> hi
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1407 [13:06:29] <jelly> hexhaxtron, interesting. You could try
purging again, wiping all files from /var/lib/mysql/ (but not the
directory itself!) and try to install anew
1408 [13:07:03] <blink> hello
1409 [13:08:02] <akkadian> i have a problem i dont know how to
manage the installation of debian
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1411 [13:08:22] <hexhaxtron> jelly: same thing with
mariadb-server...
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1416 [13:10:27] <SuperTramp83> J4ck_The_Stripp3, is the package
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed?
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1419 [13:11:08] <J4ck_The_Stripp3> do you mean default? or if i
installed it
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1421 [13:11:44] <SuperTramp83> J4ck_The_Stripp3, if it is not
installed (by default or whatever) install it and reboot
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1423 [13:12:19] <akkadian> how large is the full debian installer
guys ?
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1427 [13:12:37] <akkadian> i got one with 4.4 GB
1428 [13:13:40] <J4ck_The_Stripp3> okey thanks! someone told me to
use non-free images because there should be more drivers, maybe im
checking this too!
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1431 [13:14:29] <hexhaxtron> jelly? Yawn! :)
1432 [13:14:59] <SuperTramp83> J4ck_The_Stripp3, I never heard of
a case in which a touchpad required non-free firmware or drivers
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1434 [13:15:27] <SuperTramp83> Usually it is one of the two or
both: GPU and wifi adapter
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1436 [13:16:14] <J4ck_The_Stripp3> SuperTramp83 , its not only the
touchpad. Now my problem are network card drivers, if i plug in my
lan cable in my macbook and install debian netinstaller, it wont
find my driver
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1439 [13:17:20] <J4ck_The_Stripp3> thats the bigger problem :D
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1442 [13:18:20] <SuperTramp83> J4ck_The_Stripp3, yeah, some
hardware just sucks :/
1443 [13:18:35] <J4ck_The_Stripp3> hahah thats my last macbook!!!
1444 [13:18:42] <SuperTramp83> :)
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1446 [13:21:16] <jelly> hexhaxtron, I'm mostly afk, someone
else can probably figure out why your mariadb-server starts and just
stops
1447 [13:21:46] <jelly> if you want my undivided attention on a
Sunday, that's $100/hr
1448 [13:22:07] <J4ck_The_Stripp3> :D
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1450 [13:22:33] <BluesKaj> yeah , my sister and my duaghter were
both charmed by the mac cool factor untill they tried to add non
defualt apps etc and had HW problems , that's when the charm
went out he window, difficult and expensive to repair and costly to
expand the software
1451 [13:22:56] <jrmu> jelly: I find it interesting how developers
alternate between free support and $100/hr
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1453 [13:23:38] <jrmu> jelly: I appreciate the help anyway, just
found it peculiar
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1457 [13:24:53] <SuperTramp83> jrmu, it's just jelly, He
talks about money all the time.
1458 [13:25:01] <jelly> jrmu, people providing help in here, and
most debian developers, are volunteers, providing some of their time
and knowledge for free.
1459 [13:25:02] <J4ck_The_Stripp3> BluesKaj , mac was the reason
why i start to play with terminals and commands so it was much
better for me then windows :D and the hardware is soo fast! but yes
you are right, specially when you got something broken its a pain in
the ass
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1461 [13:26:36] <BluesKaj> 16 steps to change a HDD in an IMac
$100 for labour another 100 for the drive
1462 [13:26:40] <jrmu> jelly: yeah, I understand, I appreciate the
support you provide for free.
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1465 [13:28:35] <BluesKaj> J4ck_The_Stripp3,, Debian to the rescue
:-)
1466 [13:28:42] <jrmu> jelly: I just think it's interesting
that sometimes it's free. With Apple it's always $100/hr
to speak to their devs :)
1467 [13:29:03] <J4ck_The_Stripp3> :D
1468 [13:29:13] <jelly> SuperTramp83, not all the time, just when
some has expectations of personal one on one help :-)
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1470 [13:30:09] <jelly> hexhaxtron, it might be nice to see what
happened in daemon.log after purging and wiping contents of
/var/lib/mysql/
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1474 [13:32:23] <jelly> far as I know that ought to be enough to
trigger the initial installation stuff for any mysqld
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1482 [13:39:47] <user_> i need to calculate the solution wen just
2 parameters are given & i dont want to load whole libreoffice
calc. any other way?
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1557 [14:18:15] <mokhsu> hi
1558 [14:18:39] <crypt_> Hi
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1563 [14:20:20] <lodosds> hi
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1606 [14:50:01] <Cl0udN9ne> good evening
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1635 [14:59:20] <Al3xG0> How do I use the split command to paste
the outputs into numbers instead of alphabetic orders?
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1638 [15:00:49] <dvs> Al3xG0, is it the first item in each line?
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1640 [15:00:55] <themill> Al3xG0: -d
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1653 [15:03:45] <Al3xG0> themill is possible change sufix? x00001
1654 [15:03:52] <Al3xG0> x per y?
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1657 [15:04:47] <themill> Have you found the man page?
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1659 [15:04:53] <Al3xG0> split -l624000 limpos -d -a5 ir
1660 [15:04:58] <Al3xG0> :X done command.
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1835 [17:01:31] <m_> Hello. How can i install a driver for my AMD
M260 graphics? Right now it seems only the intel igpu is working in
my notebook. When i start a game in steam it tells me that i need
OpenGL 4.1
1836 [17:01:51] <m_> xrandr --listproviders
1837 [17:01:51] <m_> Providers: number : 1
1838 [17:01:51] <m_> Provider 0: id: 0x45 cap: 0xb, Source Output,
Sink Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 3 outputs: 3 associated providers:
0 name:Intel
1839 [17:02:21] <m_> So i guess there's no driver for my M260
graphics installed
1840 [17:03:23] <DoctorD90> jmcnaught: hello! system is installed.
but it wont boot. again xD
1841 [17:03:51] <DoctorD90> jmcnaught: i boot in the system from
the grub command line of installer usb.
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1843 [17:04:49] <DoctorD90> once booted up, I runned also
update-grub, and grub-install with the rigth command (i think), but
nothing. at boot it won't boot in the system installed
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1845 [17:05:21] <DoctorD90> any tip before I will reinstall amd
choosing to install grub for buggy efi devices?
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1850 [17:11:56] <m_> lspci -nn | grep VGA
1851 [17:11:56] <m_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]:
Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
[8086:0a16] (rev 0b)
1852 [17:12:00] <m_> Any tips?
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1860 [17:16:49] <towo`> m_, lspci | egrep -i
"vga|display|3d"
1861 [17:17:16] <hexhaxtron> towo`: hi! Do you know how to fix
this?
replaced-url
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1864 [17:17:43] <m_> towo`: lspci | egrep -i
"vga|display|3d"
1865 [17:17:43] <m_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel
Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
1866 [17:17:43] <m_> 08:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro
Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Topaz XT [Radeon R7 M260/M265 / M340/M360 /
M440/M445] (rev ff)
1867 [17:18:00] <m_> hmm, it seems to be installed?
1868 [17:18:35] <towo`> lspci has nothing to do with installed or
not installed drivers
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1871 [17:19:04] <m_> ok, but at least it's recognised
1872 [17:19:18] <towo`> and the card should be usable with dri
offloading
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1874 [17:20:14] <towo`> but with steam, you need at least even the
32bit mesa-glx-libs installed, since steam is 32bit only
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1877 [17:21:52] <towo`> but dri offloading only works, if xrandr
--listproviders lists all outputs
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1879 [17:23:06] <m_> it seems all of this packages are installed.
1880 [17:23:28] <m_> but xrandr shows only the intel one
1881 [17:24:18] <towo`> firmware-amd-graphics is installed?
1882 [17:24:27] <m_> yes
1883 [17:24:44] <fxb> Hello, I tried to import a key file into
Software Update sources after installing 'dirmng' and I
get 'GPG error' for official debian repos when running apt
update. I don't know how to fix this.
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1916 [17:29:14] <veek> how do you select a range of pages in gv;
postscript printing
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1987 [17:58:07] <petn-randall> !bat
1988 [17:58:08] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
1989 [17:58:15] <petn-randall> fxb: Can you provide all the info
above? ^^^
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1991 [17:58:25] <cerulean> yo, how do I deapply a patch from a
debian package?
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1993 [17:58:51] <petn-randall> cerulean: What package, and what
patch?
1994 [17:58:53] <fxb> sure, give me a second
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1996 [17:59:57] <cerulean> libbson1.0, use_system_yajl.patc
1997 [18:00:19] <cerulean> hfor more info:
replaced-url
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2006 [18:03:38] <fxb> petn-randall,
replaced-url
2007 [18:04:06] <petn-randall> !rebuild from source
2008 [18:04:18] * petn-randall pokes dpkg.
2009 [18:04:34] <petn-randall> !rebuild from debian source
2010 [18:04:35] <dpkg> 1) Add a <deb-src> line for your
current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude -R build-dep
packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd
packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5)
dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i
../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>,
<nocheck>, <nostrip>, <apt-get source>.
2011 [18:04:40] <petn-randall> cerulean: ^^^
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2013 [18:05:14] <petn-randall> cerulean: just before step 5, go to
debian/patches/series and remove the line with the patch in
question.
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2015 [18:06:42] <petn-randall> fxb: Did you recently update from
jessie to stretch?
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2018 [18:07:13] <fxb> petn-randall, no I installed strech on empty
partition
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2020 [18:09:15] <cerulean> thanks petn-randall. where do I get the
deb-src line?
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2022 [18:09:42] <petn-randall> !deb-src
2023 [18:09:42] <dpkg> You can have apt download the <source
package> from which a <binary package> was compiled using a
"deb-src" line in your <sources.list>. A line like
"deb-src
replaced-url
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2027 [18:10:03] <cerulean> its ubuntu xenial apparently
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2029 [18:10:27] <cerulean> oh ok
2030 [18:10:40] <petn-randall> fxb: Just copy the deb line in
/etc/apt/sources.list, and then change the "deb" at the
beginning to "deb-src".
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2034 [18:11:06] <petn-randall> Err, sorry, fxb, that was meant for
cerulean. ^^^
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2036 [18:11:26] <petn-randall> cerulean: Are you running Ubuntu?
2037 [18:11:27] <fxb> petn-randall, ok :)
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2039 [18:11:35] <cerulean> yes
2040 [18:11:44] <cerulean> i had to switch from debian 9 because
the openSSL was too new
2041 [18:11:51] <cerulean> im from the crystal-lang/amber project
2042 [18:11:58] <petn-randall> fxb: How did you prepare the
installation image, since it seems like none of the archive keys
were installed.
2043 [18:12:27] <petn-randall> cerulean: Ah, ok. Then you have to
continue in #ubuntu, since this is only for Debian support in here
(no forks).
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2045 [18:12:43] <cerulean> oh i see
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2047 [18:12:47] <cerulean> however
2048 [18:12:50] <cerulean> i only have an apt issue
2049 [18:12:57] <cerulean> has apt change significantly
2050 [18:13:07] <fxb> petn-randall, Everything worked for a while
after installing strech, the problem started happening today after I
tried adding a ppa. I can describe the steps I took if you want
2051 [18:13:32] <cerulean> i think i'll still use your
instructions
2052 [18:13:33] <cerulean> thanks
2053 [18:13:54] <petn-randall> fxb: Ah, everything is gone out of
the window if you add PPAs, they're for Ubuntu only.
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2055 [18:14:06] <petn-randall> fxb: You probably killed the
keyring somehow.
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2060 [18:15:45] <petn-randall> fxb: Can you recover the keyring
from backups?
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2063 [18:16:42] <fxb> petn-randall, unless I have some local
backups automatically generated by debian, unfortunately no
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2065 [18:18:06] <mxh-> hi, netinstall user here, can't get
USB sticks to automount. installed the "usbmount" package
but it's not mounting automatically.
2066 [18:18:14] <mxh-> no service to enable either
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2080 [18:26:43] <cerulean> petn-randall: I am now able to build
libbson without the patch. But you were correct there was some
Ubuntu specific stuff, but only the names of things like the OS and
the repo name
2081 [18:26:49] <cerulean> Thanks :D
2082 [18:27:21] <cerulean> do I need to remove the old libbson
before I install my new package?
2083 [18:27:54] <petn-randall> cerulean: You should be able to
install over it fine.
2084 [18:28:01] <cerulean> kool thx
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2088 [18:30:16] <n-iCe> Should I worry? I came from other distro
to Debian, and notice that Debian keeps the laptop fan working all
the time...
2089 [18:30:43] <petn-randall> n-iCe: I worry when it *stops*
working.
2090 [18:30:47] <petn-randall> *I'd
2091 [18:31:24] <n-iCe> but, is a lot of noise
2092 [18:31:29] <n-iCe> which never happened in other distro
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2096 [18:32:06] <n-iCe> %cpu seems ok
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2130 [18:56:08] <petn-randall> n-iCe: I guess the powermanagement
of the fans are not set up.
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2132 [18:58:06] <fxb>
replaced-url
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2139 [19:00:49] <n-iCe> petn-randall: how do I check that
2140 [19:01:28] <mxh-> anyone on Firefox 55? :)
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2164 [19:10:35] <aura> is there a way to get the terminal working
in the file browser like in dolphin?
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2166 [19:11:31] <mxh-> aura: are you on gnome?
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2168 [19:12:16] <aura> cinnamon
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2170 [19:12:32] <mxh-> aura: what file manager?
2171 [19:12:42] <aura> default one
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2174 [19:13:18] <mxh-> aura: so Nemo. check this out, or switch
back to dolphin :)
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2178 [19:15:34] <aura> is it available in the repos?
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2183 [19:17:55] <mxh-> aura: aura unfortunately not
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2185 [19:18:31] <aura> ok
2186 [19:18:37] <aura> thanks
2187 [19:18:39] <mxh-> aura: to check stuff like that, `$ apt
search nemo`
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2192 [19:21:28] <badargo> hi. when i close my notebook lid,
sometimes i cant get it back from this black screen and have to
reboot it. what can i do to fix this? is there a setting in settings
that configure the lid or something?
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2199 [19:24:51] <badargo> actually
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2203 [19:25:03] <badargo> it happens every time it suspends
2204 [19:25:11] <badargo> so is there a way to fix this suspensio
bug?
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2223 [19:34:33] <n-iCe> hi
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2230 [19:37:13] <aura> hi N-iCe
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2236 [19:39:11] <n-iCe> aura: how are you?
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2238 [19:40:46] <aura> fine
2239 [19:40:47] <aura> you?
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2242 [19:41:58] <mxh-> gotta say unstable is pretty damn stable
for not being stable
2243 [19:42:15] <mxh-> 0 issues in a year now
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2245 [19:42:56] <teclo-> well quite many people run unstable on
their desktop
2246 [19:43:10] <lexruee> mixh-: same experience :-). so far i
only encountered an audio/suspend issue on gnome 3
2247 [19:43:26] <mxh-> i run it on my main workstation, but with
an ubuntu usb in case of emergency ;)
2248 [19:43:29] <dontknow> stable is love
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2250 [19:43:37] <n-iCe> aura: alright
2251 [19:43:54] <mxh-> dontknow: had to backport too much, web dev
is not exactly "stable friendly"
2252 [19:44:19] <teraflops> mxh-: I dont think recommending sid is
a good idea
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2255 [19:45:05] <mxh-> teraflops: oh that wasn't my
intention. just giving praise. but imo if you go and get sid on your
own you got nobody to blame ;)
2256 [19:45:20] <mxh-> not like there isn't a huge warning
text
2257 [19:45:49] <teraflops> mxh-: yeah, just saying, I'm sure
you can deal with sid pretty well
2258 [19:45:56] <mxh-> teraflops: you're right :)
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2261 [19:46:33] <mxh-> teraflops: ...in not recommending it i mean
lol
2262 [19:46:41] <teraflops> heh, np
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2276 [19:57:46] <oo_miguel> can I somehow allow downloading of my
non-free wifi drivers during debian netinstall
2277 [19:57:53] <oo_miguel> I need iwlwifi
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2281 [19:58:12] <oo_miguel> or do I have to download them by hand
before and put on my usb stick which I use for installation
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2324 [20:16:42] <carmelo11> Hi guys
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2327 [20:18:06] <carmelo11> While Debian 8 was working wifi
properly ...
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2333 [20:19:01] <carmelo11> I installed from scratch debian 9.1
i386 netinst
2334 [20:19:19] <Wulf> Hello. Where can I get a font (should work
in e.g. firefox) so that 🤮 is displayed correctly?
2335 [20:19:43] <carmelo11> The wifi card is recognized but the
wlan network does not connect
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2337 [20:20:33] <carmelo11> the wifi card is Intel WiFi Link 5300
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2340 [20:21:58] <LtL> oo_miguel: i believe if you put the drivers
in a /firmware directory on the stick, the install will find it
2341 [20:21:59] <towo`> carmelo11, install firmware-iwlwifi
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2345 [20:22:41] <carmelo11> towo I just installed that one
2346 [20:22:52] <Wulf> Is there any way to check what fonts
contain which unicode chars?
2347 [20:23:06] <towo`> carmelo11, and you have rebootet after
installing the firmware?
2348 [20:23:25] <carmelo11> towo` yes
2349 [20:23:36] <towo`> carmelo11, dmesg | grep -i firmw
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2352 [20:24:12] <carmelo11> sudo dmesg | grep iwlwifi
2353 [20:24:24] <carmelo11> firmware: direct-loading firmware
iwlwifi-5000-5.ucode
2354 [20:24:37] <carmelo11> loaded firmware version 8.83.5.1 build
33692 op_mode iwldvm
2355 [20:24:57] <carmelo11> can't disable ASPM; OS
doesn't have ASPM control
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2358 [20:26:34] <Wulf> never mind, found one. ttf-unifont can
display 🤮.
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2365 [20:30:31] <carmelo11> Before I open a bug report I would do
some troubleshooting
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2375 [20:34:52] <HSorgYves> Morning, I have seen and read that
Debian 9 has a new naming schema for network interfaces which need
to be migrated to before Debian 10; the suggestions in
/usr/share/doc/udev/README.Debian.gz don't help to migrate on a
system where you don't have access to the console... any
suggestions?
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2378 [20:39:12] <LtL> carmelo11: try this kernel parameter,
'pcie_aspm=force' on boot line
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2385 [20:44:33] <carmelo11> LtL what is aspm?
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2387 [20:45:11] <LtL> carmelo11: Active State Power Management
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2390 [20:45:35] <LtL> carmelo11: look in your BIOS for it first
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2424 [20:56:01] <carmelo11> I have run: wpa_supplicant -i wlp4s0
-c wpa.conf -D iwlwifi
2425 [20:56:19] <carmelo11> Successfully initialized
wpa_supplicant
2426 [20:56:27] <carmelo11> wlp4s0: Unsupported driver
'iwlwifi'
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2432 [20:58:51] <LtL> carmelo11: have you installed linux-firmware
package?
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2437 [20:59:51] <LtL> carmelo11: rather, firmware-linux
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2440 [21:00:39] <carmelo11> I have installed
firmware-linux-nonfree
2441 [21:00:51] <LtL> carmelo11: install both
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2446 [21:02:35] <carmelo11> firmware-linux is a meta-package that
install firmware-linux-free but my wifi firmware is in package
firmware-linux-nonfree
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2451 [21:04:43] <moozer> Are any of you accessing this IRC channel
over riot/matrix.org? I can join all other freenode irc channels,
just not this one.
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2454 [21:05:51] <carmelo11> ops I was wrong my firmware is in
firmware-iwlwifi
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2456 [21:06:29] <kaimo> hey all
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2458 [21:08:41] <carmelo11> firmware-linux install
firmware-linux-free
replaced-url
2459 [21:09:03] <carmelo11> But there is no wifi card
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2461 [21:09:59] <moozer> carmelo11: "lspci" tells you
which pci devices are attached
2462 [21:10:52] <moozer> "lsmod -k" includes info about
which kernel module is used
2463 [21:10:56] <carmelo11> lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
2464 [21:11:16] <carmelo11> Network controller [0280]: Intel
Corporation Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300 [8086:4235]
2465 [21:11:31] <carmelo11> Subsystem: Intel Corporation Ultimate
N WiFi Link 5300 [8086:1121]
2466 [21:11:38] <carmelo11> Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
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2469 [21:14:30] <moozer> so the module is loaded. Do you have a
wlan0 interface
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2476 [21:17:16] <moozer> your earlier entry said something about
"-D iwlwifi". "wpa_supplicant -h" tells me that
iwlwifi is not a valid driver.
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2480 [21:17:50] <sjk> =go 4
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2491 [21:26:49] <LtL> ,pciid 8086:4235
2492 [21:26:50] <judd> [8086:4235] is 'Ultimate N WiFi Link
5300' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules
'iwlwifi', 'ata_generic',
'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also
replaced-url
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2494 [21:27:05] <LtL> ,pciid 8086:1121
2495 [21:27:06] <judd> [8086:1121] is 'Unknown device'
from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules
'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See
also
replaced-url
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2508 [21:41:20] <carmelo11> moozer my interface is wlp4s0
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2537 [21:56:05] <oo_miguel> i run xmonad and wonder which gvim
version to choose: gtk3, gtk or athena?
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2539 [21:57:18] <mxh-> oo_miguel: i have gtk3 but i'd check
for which wants the least depenedencies.
2540 [21:57:26] <n4dir> oo_miguel: i sure don't know, but as
installing packages is quick and easy, i would simply try one after
the other (or use the -s or --simulate option to look at the output,
dependencies)
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2542 [21:57:47] <oo_miguel> mxh: n4dir: thanks for suggestion ill
try this
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2544 [21:58:11] <mxh-> oo_miguel: if you already got lots of gtk
stuff then use gtk :)
2545 [21:58:15] <n4dir> oo_miguel: it was more of chat than a real
good suggestion, but good luck :-)
2546 [21:58:40] <oo_miguel> I just have a fresh install, not sure
if ill use a lot of gtk stuff yet
2547 [21:59:17] <ksft> I've had a lot of trouble with Nvidia
graphics cards
2548 [21:59:38] <ksft> what kinds of graphics cards work well
and/or easily with Debian?
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2550 [21:59:59] <jmcnaught> intel pre-skylake
2551 [22:00:05] <towo`> ksft, intel, amd
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2560 [22:00:44] <ksft> should any AMD card work well?
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2562 [22:01:57] <towo`> ksft, theoretical, yes, if it is not vega
2563 [22:02:21] <towo`> ksft, but i can't confirm your
problems with nvidia
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2565 [22:02:39] <towo`> besides you have to use the nonfree binary
blob
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2588 [22:11:27] <ebol4> I'm in the process of converting a
debian jessie system that was just running off of /dev/sda to use
mdadm for RAID1
2589 [22:12:07] <ebol4> sda1 is the EFI partition
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2591 [22:12:14] <ebol4> sda2 is the RAID partition
2592 [22:12:20] <ebol4> md0 is the RAID device
2593 [22:12:30] <ebol4> i have grub installed to /dev/sda
2594 [22:12:45] <ebol4> md0 just has md0p1, which is /
2595 [22:12:56] * jmcnaught hands ebol4 a comma.
2596 [22:13:05] <ebol4> when I try to boot, i end up at the grub
rescue prompt
2597 [22:13:16] <ebol4> i require additional commas
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2600 [22:15:19] <ebol4> I think that grub isn't even able to
get to grub.cfg on md0p1
2601 [22:15:35] <ebol4> but I thought you were allowed to have
/boot be on md0
2602 [22:15:43] <jmcnaught> ebol4: did you update-grub and
update-initramfs as part of the transition process?
2603 [22:15:51] <ebol4> sheeeeeeeeit
2604 [22:16:18] <ebol4> can you do that from a livecd with chroot
or something?
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2612 [22:17:28] <Kman> hey, i am going to switch my Ubunt 14.04 to
debian 9.1, one thing i have to overcome is the gnome
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2614 [22:18:05] <jmcnaught> ebol4: yeah you'll need to chroot
from another boot medium. You can use a Debian installer image for
this, booted in rescue mode.
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2616 [22:18:06] <Kman> how do we make gnome interface like
Ubuntu's unity? it is a pretty convenient desktop
2617 [22:18:18] <ceramik> hi, any user with awesome WM around?
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2619 [22:18:28] <ebol4> jmcnaught: i'll give that a try,
thanks
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2622 [22:18:48] <jmcnaught> ebol4: good luck
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2624 [22:19:12] <hanasaki> what iptables command will nat a single
TCP destination port ?
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2627 [22:20:10] <jmcnaught> Kman: there are lots of
gnome-shell-extension-* packages, and you can also use extensions
from
replaced-url
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2629 [22:21:16] <Kman> i did use Debian 8 for sometime, but at
last i switched to Ubuntu because of the fluent work flow
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2631 [22:22:15] <mxh-> Kman: what do you miss from canonicals
gnome? i found them pretty similar
2632 [22:22:32] <mxh-> oh unity. nmv
2633 [22:22:35] <mxh-> nvm *
2634 [22:22:51] <mxh-> Kman: they are switching to gnome now so
better prepare ;)
2635 [22:22:57] <Kman> the switching between opened windows,
2636 [22:23:16] <Kman> in Gnome, if we open one window, the rest
are hidden
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2638 [22:23:39] <mxh-> Kman: press your superkey
2639 [22:24:10] <Kman> i like make 3 -4 window opened on the same
screen
2640 [22:24:39] <jmcnaught> Kman: in GNOME alt+tab switches
between applications, alt+` (the key directly above tab) switches
between windows of a single application
2641 [22:24:43] <mxh-> Kman: so why don't you? you don't
have to maximize windows
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2643 [22:25:33] <Kman> like this:
replaced-url
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2645 [22:26:11] <mxh-> Kman: what's the issue? just drag your
windows how you want them, gnome supports that
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2647 [22:26:52] <mxh-> Kman: if you want a list of open windows,
replaced-url
2648 [22:27:00] <DoctorD90> jmcnaught im reinstalling for 3rd time
xD
2649 [22:27:00] <Kman> alt+ tab is annoying
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2651 [22:27:32] <Kman> i prefer to use mouse rather that alt+tab
because it is efficient
2652 [22:27:41] <mxh-> Kman: you CAN HAVE several windows open.
there is no issue. yourproblem doesnt exist. :)
2653 [22:27:49] <jmcnaught> Kman: are you saying you want a bar of
icons visible all the time to switch between applications?
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2655 [22:28:10] <mxh-> even if he is, i linked an extension for
that.
2656 [22:28:15] <Kman> yeah, alt+tab is so in-efficient
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2658 [22:28:31] <mxh-> Kman:
replaced-url
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2660 [22:28:42] <jmcnaught> Kman: you *can* just mouse to the
top-left corner then down to the 'dash' displayed on the
left edge of the activities overview
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2663 [22:29:20] <jmcnaught> Kman: not using keyboard shortcuts at
all, that's inefficient
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2666 [22:30:20] <Kman> very often, there are 6-7 apps opened, so
using mouse is most efficient way to switch to the target window
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2668 [22:31:29] <Kman> but it depends on your comfortable way
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2673 [22:34:01] <n4dir> ceramik: i use awesome (but i doubt i will
be able to answer your question ...)
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2675 [22:34:07] <spacebug^> Kman: do you want to just hover mouse
over a window to make it active and bring it to front?
2676 [22:34:29] <Kman> can you guys please post some nice screen
of your working desktop?
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2681 [22:35:23] <bernte> Can anyone help me with the following
error installing headers: linux-headers-4.11.0-2-amd64 : Depends:
linux-headers-4.11.0-2-common (= 4.11.11-1+b1) but 4.11.11-1 is to
be installed
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2683 [22:35:29] <n4dir> Kman: one app per desktop, each app
maximized. to switch between apps, i just switch the destkop via
keyboard shortcut. Nothing to see on a screenshot.
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2687 [22:36:49] <towo`> bernte, no, there can nobody help you
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2689 [22:37:03] <Kman> n4dir usually i make 3-4 apps working
together on 1 desktop, by resizing them that i can click anyone in
less 1 sec
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2692 [22:37:20] <towo`> bernte, until
linux-headers-4.11.0-2-common (= 4.11.11-1+b1) is available
2693 [22:37:23] <fxb> When installing debian from the graphical
interface what is the only difference between 'Debian desktop
environment' and 'Gnome' the login screen or is there
something more?
2694 [22:37:24] <mxh-> Kman: so resize them in gnome. you can
resize windows in gnome. last time im saying this. :)
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2696 [22:37:40] <fxb> *is the
2697 [22:37:48] <bernte> towo`, might switching to 4.12 from
experimental be an option? Has anybody tried this?
2698 [22:38:07] <mxh-> fxb: "Debian desktop environment"
gave me a full gnome install on jessie
2699 [22:38:30] <ksft> towo`: you have to use nonfree drivers for
Nvidia cards or for AMD cards?
2700 [22:38:32] <towo`> bernte, do, whatever you want, but normaly
here is no testing, unstable or experimental support
2701 [22:38:35] <Kman> mxh-: i am going to install debian on
virtual box to see, if i can tweak gnome shell similar like unity
2702 [22:38:42] <towo`> ksft, for nvidia
2703 [22:38:48] <fxb> mhx- but is there a difference in the
version provided? and if so which is the newest/oldest?
2704 [22:39:02] <mxh-> Kman: using extensions you absolutely can.
look at the one i linked first. :)
2705 [22:39:27] <towo`> ksft, for amd cards and intel >=
skylake you only need non-free firmware
2706 [22:39:49] <mxh-> fxb: to be honest not sure, i didn't
want a DE so i immedeately reinstalled. :(
2707 [22:40:02] <Kman> mxh-: you mean "Dash to Panel"
2708 [22:40:04] <spacebug^> Kman: you have lots of option in
gnome-tweak-tool (for example you can make a window active by only
hover mouse over it, no need to click. Also make the active window
bring to front). Or change nomber of desktops etc
2709 [22:40:12] <mxh-> Kman: yes
2710 [22:40:58] <bernte> towo`, what do you mean with
"support" in this context?
2711 [22:41:17] <towo`> bernte, this channel is for debian stable
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2713 [22:41:41] <Kman> spacebug^: i will give it a try
2714 [22:41:41] <towo`> bertbob, testing and unstable support is
in #debian-next on oftc network
2715 [22:41:46] <ebol4> jmcnaught: ran update-grub and
update-initramfs from the chroot, rebooted, but still get the grub
rescue prompt
2716 [22:41:54] <towo`> grr
2717 [22:41:56] <ebol4> it says "error: unknown
filesystem" above the prompt
2718 [22:41:58] <towo`> bernte, , testing and unstable support is
in #debian-next on oftc network
2719 [22:42:17] <bernte> towo`, ah - ok ... just saw the
#debian-next thing ... I will avoid this channel in the future.
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2726 [22:45:19] <Kman> apt-get install gnome-desktop can do this
job completely?
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2728 [22:45:45] <Kman> i have debian 9.1+ xfce4 installed
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2733 [22:47:26] <towo`> Kman, i would use apt install
task-gnome-desktop
2734 [22:49:27] <Kman> towo`: Okay, the difference?
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2742 [22:52:10] <towo`> Kman, the difference is, gnome-desktop
does not exist ist debian
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2744 [22:52:18] <towo`> Kman, as package
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2747 [22:54:12] <Kman> towo`: i noticed that there is no CD image
with Gnome
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2750 [22:54:40] <Kman> towo`: 'cause gnome is too big?
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2755 [22:58:22] <jmcnaught> ebol4: i'm in and out right now,
but can you make a single paragraph summary of the steps you took to
transition to RAID and the exact errors you are getting?
That'll help you get helped.
2756 [22:59:31] <oo_miguel> after a fresh install on my acer
laptop (i use xdm) the login screen needs like 1-2 seconds to build
up. Is it possible that i lack hardware acceleration or X is
miconfigured? It was not like this before
2757 [22:59:43] <oo_miguel> its an old acer aspire 1810tz
2758 [23:00:08] <Kman> oo_miguel: check you video driver installed
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2764 [23:02:55] <oo_miguel> Kman: not sure how to find this out,
frankly speaking
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2768 [23:04:17] <Kman> oo_miguel: try to get addition drivers
tools?
2769 [23:04:34] <oo_miguel> Kman: I only installed drivers for
wifi from non-free
2770 [23:04:40] <oo_miguel> iwlwifi firmware
2771 [23:05:20] <Kman> oo_miguel: since your laptop is old, find a
legacy driver for your video card
2772 [23:05:39] <jmcnaught> oo_miguel: you can run "lspci -nn
| grep VGA" which gets the PCI-ID for the card, so we can look
it up
2773 [23:05:52] <jmcnaught> Kman: additional drivers tool sounds
like a ubuntu thing
2774 [23:06:06] <oo_miguel> intel mobile 4 series chipset
integrated (rev 07)
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2777 [23:06:26] <jmcnaught> oo_miguel: you left out the PCI-ID,
just show the full line
2778 [23:06:51] <oo_miguel> 00:02.0
2779 [23:06:58] <oo_miguel> sorry i am on antoher comp right now
2780 [23:07:02] <Kman> jmanfatty: yeah, forgot about this
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2782 [23:07:16] <oo_miguel> do not want to write the complete line
unless its really necessary
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2784 [23:07:29] <jmcnaught> oo_miguel: it looks like
"[abcd:1234]"
2785 [23:07:44] <oo_miguel> 00:02.0 ?
2786 [23:07:58] <jmcnaught> no
2787 [23:08:21] <jmcnaught> the first part will be 8086 if
it's intel
2788 [23:09:21] <oo_miguel> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics
Controller (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
2789 [23:09:48] <oo_miguel> aaah sorry
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2791 [23:09:51] <oo_miguel> i missed the -nn
2792 [23:10:04] <oo_miguel> 8086:2a42
2793 [23:10:30] <jmcnaught> ,pciid 8086:2a42
2794 [23:10:32] <judd> [8086:2a42] is 'Mobile 4 Series
Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel
Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic',
'i915', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also
replaced-url
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2798 [23:11:09] <oo_miguel> i have i915 module loaded
2799 [23:11:22] <jmcnaught> well it's not a poulsbo. is the
only problem that your display manager takes a moment to finish
displaying? How is normal desktop usage?
2800 [23:12:02] <oo_miguel> jmcnaught: I have only xmonad and a
few xterms and they seem fine
2801 [23:13:03] <oo_miguel> do not see any extreme lagging
2802 [23:13:21] <jmcnaught> oo_miguel: for me gdm displays a mouse
pointer first, then the background, then the login controls (all in
a second or two)… i simply attribute it to it loading at the
same time as everything else because systemd starts stuff in
parallel
2803 [23:14:11] <oo_miguel> i will try to view a hd video. if its
fine this should prove i have accelration right?
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2806 [23:14:39] <smhar> greetings
2807 [23:14:54] <oo_miguel> jmcnaught: thanks for your support
2808 [23:15:41] <jmcnaught> oo_miguel: you can look at your
Xorg.0.log, or run glxinfo
2809 [23:15:52] <oo_miguel> glxinfo says : direct rendinge: yes
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2811 [23:15:56] <oo_miguel> rendering
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2814 [23:18:13] <oo_miguel> I just played an 1024x768 10minute
video (260MB) and its perfectly fluent
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2816 [23:18:43] <oo_miguel> so everything seems fine, sorry for
panicking ;)
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2824 [23:22:50] <ebol4> in /boot/efi/EFI/debian, are you supposed
to have a grub.cfg?
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2826 [23:22:55] <ebol4> or JUST the one efi file
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2865 [23:37:48] <smhar> I am trying to setup a LAMP in my stretch
laptop. I successfully installed all components and they ran fine.
Now I modified the conf files to change it to a multiple vhosts.
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2867 [23:38:19] <melo11> Hi I have a processor Intel P8400, do i
need to install Debian i386 or amd64?
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2869 [23:38:54] <smhar> I created the directory structure under
/var/replaced-url
2870 [23:39:03] <smhar> then I restarted apache
2871 [23:40:15] <smhar> but I when I go in the browser to
/localhost/test.com I got 404 error
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2876 [23:41:18] <format_c> nopaste the 000-default.conf
2877 [23:41:40] <LtL> melo11: amd64
2878 [23:42:19] <melo11> amd64 is also for Intel 64 bit
architecture?
2879 [23:42:29] <LtL> melo11: yes it is
2880 [23:42:43] <smhar> format_c, me?
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2882 [23:42:49] <format_c> yes
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2886 [23:43:55] <jmcnaught> smhar: if you disabled 000-default
than the site conf that you enabled would be more helpful
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2889 [23:44:29] <smhar> format_c, jmcnaught
/etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf :
replaced-url
2890 [23:44:50] <smhar> jmcnaught, format_c :
/etc/apache2/sites-available/test.com.conf :
replaced-url
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2895 [23:45:52] <smhar> format_c, jmcnaught : but apachectl -S
show that vhost is only one and it has the default DocumentRoot :
replaced-url
2896 [23:45:56] <melo11> LtL Will I have drivers problems from
i386 to amd64? What caution should I take?
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2902 [23:47:11] <format_c> smhar, that's easy
2903 [23:47:29] <smhar> format_c, pleeease :-)
2904 [23:47:30] <jmcnaught> smhar: if you set DocumentRoot to
/var/replaced-url
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2906 [23:47:39] <format_c> none of the ServerName or ServerAlias
derective matches "localhost"
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2908 [23:48:13] <format_c> you're better off creating a entry
in /etc/hosts to pretend
replaced-url
2909 [23:48:29] <format_c> then apache can match the right
virtualhost
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2911 [23:48:48] <format_c> Just for testing I guess.
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2919 [23:52:24] <format_c> of course after you've created the
name entry, call
replaced-url
2920 [23:52:45] <format_c> I guess a index.html exists in the
DocumentRoot of the test.com VirtualHost
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2922 [23:54:30] <smhar> format_c, but why does apachectl -S shows
one vhost only?
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2927 [23:55:57] <jmcnaught> smhar: did you use a2ensite and
a2dissite? Look at the directory /etc/apache2/sites-enabled, those
are the active ones. The same principle applies for modules and
confs
2928 [23:56:03] <n3tcat> hello
2929 [23:56:06] <n3tcat> beta fag here
2930 [23:56:16] <n3tcat> can I have download link for debian kde
2931 [23:56:18] <format_c> what shows ls -lh
/etc/apache2/sites-enabled?
2932 [23:56:24] <n3tcat> i end up downloading live version omg
2933 [23:56:27] <n3tcat> can I have stable ?
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2935 [23:56:44] <jrtc27> n3tcat: take that language elsewhere
2936 [23:56:48] <jmcnaught> n3tcat: please don't use that
kind of slang here. this isn't 4chan and it's not
appropriate.
2937 [23:57:01] <n3tcat> Got it, sorry
2938 [23:57:15] <smhar> format_c, total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root
32 Jul 30 23:45 test.com.conf -> ../sites-available/test.com.conf
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2940 [23:57:41] <jmcnaught> n3tcat: use the download link on the
front page of the debian.org website. The netinst image (like all
Debian installer images) gives you a choice of desktop environment
during installation
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2945 [23:58:31] <n3tcat> jmcnaught: netinst img was unknown for
me, ok then thank you so much
2946 [23:59:35] <jmcnaught> n3tcat: Reading the install manual is
recommended. Spending 30 minutes with the manual can save you a lot
more time doing trial and error:
replaced-url
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