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19 [00:06:32] <paule32_> hello
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24 [00:08:21] <paule32> i have create a live boot cd image
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26 [00:09:14] <paule32> then i would like install softwar, but
getting this when dpkg -i libc6*.deb :
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28 [00:09:35] <paule32> ./tmp.ci/preinst: readlink not found
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31 [00:10:42] <paule32> what can i do?
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94 [00:56:34] <chicken> hi I need to install a copy of debian so
I can run diehard, does debian come with diehard?
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97 [00:57:34] <bazhang> chicken the game diehard through steam?
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100 [00:58:04] <bazhang> ,v diehard
101 [00:58:05] <judd> No package named 'diehard' was
found in amd64.
102 [00:58:23] <chicken>
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103 [00:58:45] <bazhang> whats the package name
104 [00:59:19] <stoned> Haha, chicken, great nickname
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111 [01:01:38] <chicken> diehard
112 [01:01:46] <chicken> but I think i found it already
113 [01:01:50] <chicken> thnx stoned
114 [01:03:40] <transhuman__> hi cherrypy depends on reprconf
which no longer seems to exist. whats the best way to update
cherrypy so it doesnt break the debian system?
115 [01:03:45] <transhuman__> this is on jessie
116 [01:04:25] <transhuman__> or is this best addressed in
#python?
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118 [01:05:23] <transhuman__> this is the error
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119 [01:06:22] <jmcnaught> transhuman__: if you're not using
the cherrypy package provided by Debian you're probably better
off asking the in #python
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121 [01:06:45] <transhuman__> ok thanks
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218 [01:56:21] <atannus> Has anyone noticed an R issue with the
latest update to Stretch?
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226 [02:00:14] <atannus> I can't plot anything in R and
it's related to X11. Here's some output. I wonder if this
is related to the lates updates since everything was working last
night and today, update/upgrade broke something.
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228 [02:01:47] <atannus> Is #debian-next a more apropriate place
to ask?
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230 [02:02:25] <jmcnaught> atannus: for stretch it's
probably a good habit to ask there first
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312 [03:05:10] <devster31> are bind mounts the best solution if I
wanted to move a big directory in another drive? like /srv
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316 [03:06:49] <jml2> devster31, ??
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318 [03:08:00] <jml2> devster31, you can use a symlink, but a
"bind" map sometimes is better depending on how the
application is looking at it.. I've seen some applications
resolve the symlink which has the opposite effect that is intended
319 [03:09:24] <devster31> the drive where /srv is on is quite
small, it contains files for nginx and I didn't know I could
symlink the entire /srv
320 [03:10:02] <jmcnaught> devster31: if you are using LVM and
have unallocated space you can grow the /srv volume
321 [03:10:38] <devster31> nothing like that I'm afraid,
it's a home setup and I didn't plan it very well
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324 [03:12:02] <jmcnaught> are you trying to merge another
filesystem into where /srv is? that won't be possible without
using something like aufs, which might not perform very well
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327 [03:12:50] <devster31> no, just to move the folder in a
bigger drive without messing too much stuff up
328 [03:12:58] <devster31> both drives are ext4
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330 [03:13:39] <jmcnaught> copying everything to the new
filesystem and then mounting it to /srv is an option?
331 [03:13:57] <devster31> yes, I assumed I needed to bind mount
332 [03:14:36] <jml2> devster31, would be better to use mount
bind .. dunno if that works across drives though
333 [03:14:37] <jmcnaught> if acting as the new /srv is the only
thing this filesystem will be doing, i don't see why you would
need a bind mount
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336 [03:15:28] <jml2> devster31, but if you're doing it
across a "drive", it is possible to mount it the
"same" old path -- you can have two mountpoints for the
same "root partition"
337 [03:15:52] <jml2> devster31, i'm not sure of any
technical implications with this.. though i don't think it
would be too worrying
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339 [03:16:11] <jml2> devster31, if it was insane and too
dangerous.. i think the system wouldn't allow it
340 [03:16:33] <jmcnaught> however you do it, make sure to
document it somewhere so it makes sense when you look at it again
six months from now
341 [03:16:33] <jml2> devster31, but I think this means only for
"bind" mountpoints..
342 [03:16:41] <jml2> devster31, I implied otherwise..
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344 [03:16:53] <jml2> devster31, there's a variety of bind
expressions ...
345 [03:17:56] <devster31> alright, I'll try a bit in a vm
see what happens, thanks
346 [03:17:58] <jml2> devster31, how many root partitions are
under /srv? just one? then that is very easy to do..
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349 [03:18:24] <jml2> devster31, you just change the device
path.... or assing the new UUID of that "root partition"
again /srv
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354 [03:18:38] <jml2> devster31, you're just updating the
mapping, but the mapping target is still "/srv"
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358 [03:23:29] <zz> ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
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360 [03:23:46] <zz> ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
361 [03:23:58] <jml2> lol
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363 [03:23:59] <jml2> yeah ;-)
364 [03:24:12] <jml2> i shouldn't have to guess what
he's trying ..
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366 [03:24:34] <jml2> zz, :)
367 [03:25:00] <jml2> obviously "bind" is not what
he's supposed to use -- it's an advanced topic that one
needs to be specific as what he's mapping..
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369 [03:25:06] <jml2> yips
370 [03:25:45] <jml2> zz, is that supposed to be a butt ?
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379 [03:31:11] <devster31> right now I have
replaced-url
380 [03:31:48] <devster31> directory /srv is in /dev/mmcblk0p2
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382 [03:32:09] <jml2> devster31, if you type "blkid"
you'll get an UUID number, you can replace
"/dev/sda1" with "UUID=XXXXX" in /etc/fstab ---
occassionaly "/dev/sda" might be called
"/dev/sdb" instead on reboots
383 [03:32:26] <jml2> devster31, (and same with /dev/mmc* )
384 [03:33:01] <jml2> devster31, unless there's no UUID
detection of mmc devices.. this looks like a rpi setup
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386 [03:33:22] <jml2> devster31, likely /dev/mmc* wont ever
change so that doesnt really need to be changed..
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388 [03:33:29] <jml2> devster31, (as it is on-board)
389 [03:34:06] <jml2> devster31, -- since you don't want to
risk not being able to mount it on the start up.. you'll have
to end up taking out the card... and fixing fstab again, so
/dev/mmc* looks fine enough
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395 [03:36:36] <dongforce> I am evading a ban on this channel
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397 [03:37:38] <devster31> not a pi, but a similar board yes,
I'll change the dev to the UUID, it seems short though, I get
/dev/sda1: LABEL="160" UUID="D01C-A3F6"
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402 [03:38:18] <zinx> devster31: sounds like a FAT filesystem
403 [03:38:21] <jml2> devster31, just make sure you can revert
it, -- (take out the board and then reapply the fstab change back),
if it cant boot..
404 [03:38:49] <dongforce> Your filesystem has been consuming
unusually large amounts of ice cream lately
405 [03:38:53] <jml2> devster31, i dunnot about rpi-like boards--
but on standard debian you can use UUID for the root "/"
mountpoints without issue
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407 [03:38:59] <dongforce> it has therefore been converted to FAT
408 [03:39:16] <jml2> dongforce, it's commont to see vfat on
rpi-like boards..
409 [03:39:32] <jml2> dongforce, saves power/drive access to keep
these systems "speedy"
410 [03:39:43] <devster31> alright, I'll try thanks
411 [03:39:45] <dongforce> but it cannot be FAT like your mom
unless it eats like your mom
412 [03:39:53] <jml2> it means less security of course (no
acl/unix permissions) -- but it is after-all rpi-like
413 [03:39:55] <devster31> hence the ban reason
414 [03:40:00] <jml2> yep
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416 [03:40:04] <jml2> !ops dongforce evading ban
417 [03:40:05] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jml2 complains
about: dongforce evading ban
418 [03:40:10] <dongforce> excuse me?
419 [03:40:15] * jml2 ignores dongforce
420 [03:40:52] <jml2> devster31, we can talk without him, just
add him to /ignore.. looks like the ops are not around atm
421 [03:40:55] <dongforce> !ops jml2 making bullshit reports via
the !ops command
422 [03:40:55] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: dongforce
complains about: jml2 making bullshit reports via the !ops command
423 [03:41:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o themill
424 [03:41:07] <dongforce> easy
425 [03:41:09] <dongforce> no opping
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427 [03:41:15] *** themill sets mode: +b *!*@81.17.28.231
428 [03:41:18] *** themill sets mode: -o themill
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430 [03:42:00] <themill> jml2: thanks
431 [03:42:26] <jml2> themill, thanks too :).. rarely i see them
but it's still the weekend ;-)
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435 [03:43:06] <jml2> it's a good channel.. and i like to
see it clean. :)
436 [03:43:16] * jml2 whispers "good"
437 [03:43:28] <jml2> :))
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451 [03:56:40] <ecrofgnod> whats the difference from a practical
standpoint between ubuntu and debian?
452 [03:57:35] <jml2> ecrofgnod, they both contribute back to the
same packages.. it's matter of Desktop taste.. Ubuntu is easy
to setup, but Debian takes a bit more learning to do
453 [03:57:36] <zinx> not a whole heck of a lot. the differences
are mostly political and in how packages are maintained
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456 [03:57:56] <jml2> ecrofgnod, also "Unity" is not
available (or don't think ever will be) packaged in Debian..
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458 [03:58:03] <ecrofgnod> okay
459 [03:58:17] <ecrofgnod> what exactly is that?
460 [03:58:24] <jml2> ecrofgnod, the "package" repos
used to be the "same" back a couple years ago.. this is no
longer the case.. so mixing the repos is not adviced of course
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462 [03:58:29] <themill> The support life-cycle including which
packages are supported is quite different.
463 [03:58:32] <jml2> !Unity
464 [03:58:32] <dpkg> Unity is a shell interface for
<GNOME>, part of the Ayatana project. <RFP> filed as
Debian bug #609278.
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465 [03:58:34] <bdog7> ecrofgnod, comunity vs comercial
466 [03:59:06] <ecrofgnod> ubuntu is open source and so is debian
right?
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468 [03:59:20] <jml2> ecrofgnod, Ubuntu is a trademark owned by
canonical
469 [03:59:30] <ecrofgnod> how can something completely free and
having no ads be commercial
470 [03:59:44] <jml2> ecrofgnod, you need permission to its name
in Ubuntu derivatives if you carry it's name anywhere in your
derivative project name
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472 [03:59:48] <bdog7> yes, ubuntu takes a copy of debian testing
to start their distro
473 [04:00:00] <jml2> ecrofgnod, so there's more legal
implications
474 [04:00:01] <zykotick9> ecrofgnod: you can't run ubuntu
in freedom. you _can_ run debian in freedom.
475 [04:00:04] <themill> ecrofgnod: you'd have to ask the
ubuntu people about their rules for their packages and their
business model
476 [04:00:36] <jml2> ecrofgnod, also Canonical/Ubuntu are
getting careless, they're melding "ZFS" non-GPL
software together with GPL.. foss came out to denounce this
practice..
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478 [04:00:41] <ecrofgnod> I personally can understand the
reasoning provided the only restriction is on the name
479 [04:00:57] <jml2> ecrofgnod, they're going down a
dangerous path that can have legal implications
480 [04:01:14] <ecrofgnod> as you want to have a definition of
ubuntu
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482 [04:01:29] <ecrofgnod> not anything anyone posts and says
"this is the new ubuntu distro"
483 [04:02:02] <jml2> ecrofgnod, debian makes their official
release as more-pure to "GPL" and "free" as
possible, unlike what canonical/ubuntu is doing... M.Shuttleworth is
trying to make a business in some IP-intellectual spin somewhere..
though nobody really knows what his plans are..
484 [04:02:18] <jml2> ecrofgnod, not even his own employees know
exactly where Canonical is going..
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486 [04:02:49] <jml2> ecrofgnod, there's some
"closeness" to the way ubuntu/canonical runs.. (you just
have to read their employee blogs saying how to move away from
Windows 10 -> Ubuntu) --- now there's UBuntu on Windows 10.
487 [04:03:07] <ecrofgnod> but which is more widely supported by
third party sofware?
488 [04:03:19] <themill> these sorts of questions don't
really belong in #debian btw; irc doesn't handle them well, we
don't really want to talk about other distros as the only way
of making such comparisons is to criticise our colleagues and this
channel is really for user support for Debian users.
489 [04:03:39] <jml2> acrocity, hard to say.. that i don't
know.. they both have a lot available (non-free is for debian,
restricted/multerverse/etc is for ubuntu repos)
490 [04:03:39] <ecrofgnod> themill okay sorry
491 [04:03:58] <ecrofgnod> I guess ##linux would be a better
neutral forum between distros
492 [04:04:12] <ecrofgnod> and also, themill, please read my nick
backwards
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496 [04:04:42] <themill> ecrofgnod: you are assuming that
didn't get flagged ages ago
497 [04:04:53] <jml2> ecrofgnod, you can try anything you like
and make the comparisons.. you'll see that debian offers great
flexibility and doesn't lock you down with spyware.. like
Canonical/Ubuntu did with their default Amazon/dock search box
498 [04:04:54] <ecrofgnod> "flagged" as in what?
499 [04:05:04] <jml2> ecrofgnod, this is why I would rather
advocate for debian...
500 [04:05:19] <jml2> :)))
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502 [04:06:16] <jml2> zykotick9, true
503 [04:06:28] <jml2> zykotick9, debian==freedom absolutely :)))
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509 [04:11:24] <zykotick9> jml2: well, optional freedom. /me
wishes debian could jetison contrib/non-free to a 3rd party repo (a
la deb-mulitimedia)
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513 [04:13:03] <bdog7> I like contrib/non-free for firmware
support
514 [04:13:28] <zykotick9> bdog7: trust me... that's the
popular opinion ;)
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535 [04:28:27] <anzu103_> nadie?
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549 [04:34:11] <PryMar56> aqui somos todos malditos
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563 [04:46:10] <awal1> The whole content of 'lightdm' ,
/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, is commented. So which file lightdm uses?
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565 [04:47:18] <awal1> I'm trying to understand how to
enable 'guest session' and I wonder if I just have to
uncomment the line "# guest-account-script = Script to be run
to setup guest account" in that config file?
566 [04:47:36] <awal1> no clue :P
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568 [04:48:02] <jml2> awal1, auto-login?
569 [04:48:25] <jml2> awal1, if a lightdm .conf is documented but
not created in /etc/*.. then it is possible to use a newly created
file
570 [04:48:34] <chicken> I'm writing an article comparing
debian with other distros anyone wants to read it? : )
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572 [04:48:46] <jml2> awal1, i've done this but it was a
while ago
573 [04:49:19] <jml2> awal1, but anything else similar to this
where a conf seems missing, you create one from scratch... restart
the x11/lightdm server and the new config should be picked up
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575 [04:49:57] <awal1> jml2, auto login no. its an option called
'guest' listed in users. I have seen that in ubuntu/ubuntu
based somewhere in the web
576 [04:50:33] <awal1> login as guest , no changes can be made
for in that session for anything
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578 [04:52:01] <awal1> of course guest session doesnt need passwd
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580 [04:53:04] <awal1> commented here
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581 [04:53:23] <awal1> "disabling guest session"
section
582 [04:53:44] <awal1> disabling guest login ^
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584 [04:55:54] <jmcnaught> awal1: what user will the guest
session run as?
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588 [04:57:14] <karlpinc> awal1: gdm3 has something that allows a
login without password. After a timeout it just logs in some
specified user or another. Although last I looked was some years
ago.
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592 [04:59:33] <awal1> jmcnaught, karlpinc, I have no idea about
all that. What I really want is , have an user/session where nothing
can be changed. In that session the user that have loged in can not
modify/add/create stuff in that machine. Some one told me it can be
done via guest session/user. I dont really know
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597 [05:01:13] <awal1> When I go to cyber-café, windows
machines poepl log in as guests and all the modifications made for
programs such as firefox, chrome and so are deleted when login out
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600 [05:01:52] <awal1> configs are restored to default on each
login
601 [05:03:01] <awal1> so thinking on how I can do that in 1 of
my machines that I share with some people sometimes
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603 [05:05:12] <bdog7> delete the user home configs on logout?
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605 [05:06:33] <tjcarter> I have a URL that might explain how to
do it aimed at Ubuntu, but the instructions should work for you,
I'm checking it
606 [05:06:36] <jml2> awal1, you'll have to read the docs,
you likely(not sure) need to create some guest account for it
607 [05:06:44] <awal1> then I have to configure all the apps
every time I login :xD, bdog7
608 [05:07:01] <jml2> awal1, ther'es "kiosk"
packages if this is what you mean
609 [05:07:19] <jml2> awal1, kiosk are mant to be public-service
machines but not keep resilience on the session data
610 [05:07:35] <tjcarter> awal1: There's a dir, /etc/skel
611 [05:07:57] <tjcarter> awal1: That's the default newly
created user's home directory template
612 [05:08:05] <jmcnaught> the difference between ubuntu and
debian for this is probably more than lightdm configuration
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614 [05:08:31] <tjcarter> You'll basically want logout of
the guest user to delete the home directory of the user and
repopulate it with /etc/skel or some analogue
615 [05:09:10] <awal1> guys, as jml2 said "not keep
resilience on the session data"
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619 [05:10:13] <jml2> awal1, if you search the package manager
with keyword 'kiosk' you can find a package or two to help
on this
620 [05:10:26] <jml2> awal1, but i thinik the guest account is
also supported somewhere with lightdm/gnome sessions
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622 [05:11:42] <awal1> tjcarter, the first time I see skel dir i
my /etc, I have no idea about it
623 [05:11:44] <jml2> awal1, btw a dirty trick is if you're
at a road-block is using ~/.bash_logout to wipe files out just
before the user exits entirely the session
624 [05:12:12] <jml2> awal1, that's only used as a template
for
625 [05:12:17] <jml2> awal1, "~"
626 [05:12:41] <tjcarter> you might want to use a system-wide
alternative to .bash_logout
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628 [05:13:05] <jmcnaught> also i don't think ~/.bash_logout
would be involved for a DM initiated X session
629 [05:13:25] <jml2> strange here on jessie i don't see the
kiosk package (1 or 2) that i used to see on prior debian editions,
maybe they were renamed or taken out
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631 [05:14:14] <awal1> nothing named kiosk or similar find by
aptitude /apt here
632 [05:14:15] <tjcarter> You can use /etc/bash.bash.logout based
on the user ID
633 [05:14:21] <jmcnaught> maybe there's a way to make a
systemd user unit for just one user and put it in /etc/systemd/user,
with an ExecStop= that runs a script removing stuff. I'm not
exactly sure how to make it only work on one user though, it would
require some experimenting
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635 [05:15:05] <tjcarter> that might be better still
636 [05:16:05] <jmcnaught> during the experiment phase you could
have the script create a harmless file, to make sure you don't
suddenly delete your actual user's settings on logout
637 [05:16:06] <jml2> awal1, you can set the "write" of
~/.bash_logout to "root" .. this way a user cannot try to
(unlikely though) to alter this file..
638 [05:16:32] <awal1> hmmm, sounds all complicated for a novice
I'm xD
639 [05:16:34] <jml2> awal1, and have this exit script remove all
files in except the two or three default bash logins.. and any .dmrc
file
640 [05:16:39] <karlpinc> jml2: Check the bug tracking system.
641 [05:16:39] <jml2> awal1, ? no
642 [05:16:44] <jml2> awal1, it's easy..
643 [05:17:07] <jml2> awal1, you just add a user
"foobar", chmod /home/foobar/.bash_logout .. then add rm
statements to it..
644 [05:17:13] <jml2> awal1, chown i mean
645 [05:17:25] <jml2> awal1, and disable any "write"
access for other
646 [05:17:55] <jml2> awal1, if you have "selectable"
destkops.. I suppose ".dmrc" stores the last chosen
Desktop preference... you can try to lock this file too
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648 [05:18:21] <awal1> jml2, more clear now xD
649 [05:18:27] <jml2> awal1, so it's like 3 files ->
~/.bash_profile or ~/.profile , ~/.bash_logout and maybe something
else ... but it would be trivial
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653 [05:20:05] <jml2> the default is ~/.profile in debian..
654 [05:20:32] <jml2> awal1, you can even create
"defaults" of things in ~/.profile if you so ever wish
to.. and have this file write-only by the superuser as well
655 [05:20:41] <awal1> that what I see in my homes yeah, .profile
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658 [05:20:45] <jml2> awal1, ... and then there's
~/.xsessionrc
659 [05:23:17] <awal1> jml2, I think I have enough info now from
where I must start and do things. thanks. I think it's a better
way what you were explaining then have a gest session as in ubuntu /
ubuntu based
660 [05:23:55] <awal1> because it seems that the guest in those
distros still have access to many stuff in home as normal user
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662 [05:24:30] <awal1> it a can modify iceweasel configs , for
example, it seems
663 [05:26:47] <awal1> jml2, thanks for all the info :)
664 [05:27:11] <awal1> tjcarter, jmcnaught, jml2, +1
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669 [05:29:15] <alexxey> Hello! My OS is debian testing.
670 [05:29:17] <alexxey> When I start Calibre I got "This
application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt
platform plugin 'xcb'."
671 [05:29:19] <alexxey> SMPlayer also has this problem.
672 [05:29:21] <alexxey> Any hint what is going wrong? Thanks!
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675 [05:30:08] <awal1> alexxey, testing support is almost in
#debian-next
676 [05:30:32] <alexxey> awal1, join #debian-testing redirects me
here
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678 [05:30:56] <awal1> #debian-next not testing
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681 [05:31:41] <alexxey> Sorry I made a typo
682 [05:31:52] <alexxey> That channel is invite only?
683 [05:32:02] <awal1> no
684 [05:32:04] <alexxey> Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)
685 [05:32:14] <dvs> on oftc
686 [05:32:23] <awal1> its in OFCT server no freenode
687 [05:32:29] <alexxey> Sorry I forgot that
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689 [05:32:38] <alexxey> Sorry for the bother
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737 [06:14:01] <jim> hi... is pulseaudio something to be started
and stopped? if so how?
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739 [06:14:38] <jim> running deb ian jessie (upgraded it
yesterday)
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748 [06:18:39] <awal1> jim, one way is using pactl
749 [06:19:27] <awal1> pactl exit
750 [06:19:47] <awal1> or pulseaudio --kill pulseaudio --start
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752 [06:21:04] <awal1> pactl (pulseaudio control)
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766 [06:30:01] <jmcnaught> jim: checkout
/etc/xdg/autostart/pulse*.desktop
767 [06:30:38] <jim> jmcnaught, thanks...
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771 [06:32:17] <jim> to any and all: if I alter the configuration
files found in /etc/pulse/, would a subsequent upgrade of pulseaudio
wipe my changes, and if so, how should I do it?
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774 [06:33:56] <jmcnaught> jim: those should be conffiles, so if
a future package update has a newer version of those files
you'll be prompted if you want to keep your, get the new one,
or see the diff between the two
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776 [06:35:46] <jmcnaught> jim: "dpkg --status
<package>" can list conffiles for a package (and a lot
more).
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787 [06:46:24] <jim> jmcnaught, thanks... how can I search for
the package a particular conffile is for?
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794 [06:49:49] <jmcnaught> jim: "dpkg -S filename"
should do it if the package is installed
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796 [06:50:46] <jmcnaught> jim: i think i misunderstood your
original pulseaudio question. yes you can restart it. it runs per
user, so you can kill it and restart it "pulseaudio
--start" as the user
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801 [06:52:14] <jim> ok...
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808 [06:54:22] <jim> not sure about this part, I have the 4
conffiles in /etc/pulse/, one belongs to libpulse0, the other three
to pulseaudio... and as they're owned by root, the user
can't change them (not a problem since I can become root easily
enough)
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810 [06:55:16] <jim> but, those are conffiles, so I get those
options when I upgrade those packages..
811 [06:55:36] <jmcnaught> jim: there's also ~/.config/pulse
for per-user settings
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813 [06:56:05] <jim> ok, do I copy those four files to that dir?
814 [06:56:42] <jmcnaught> i guess it depends on what you're
trying to do
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816 [06:57:53] <jim> ok, fair enough... what I'm trying to
do is start jack with the alsa driver, and I think since pa is
running, that makes alsa busy?
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818 [06:59:36] <jmcnaught> there's a pasuspender that might
help with that, but i'm not familiar with it. alsa also has the
ability to let multiple programs share a soundcard, but suspending
pulseaudio might be better while you're using jack
819 [07:02:55] <jim> trying to make them cooperative for the
moment
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824 [07:04:29] <jmcnaught> you might be able to get them to share
the soundcard with the ALSA dmix(?) feature, but you might not get
the same latency you would if jackd doesn't have to share
825 [07:05:11] <jmcnaught> jim:
replaced-url
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829 [07:08:07] <shibly> Is there anything like ubuntu to install
multimedia packages with one command? sudo apt-get install
ubuntu-restricted-extras
830 [07:08:58] <jim> you'd have to research that question I
would think
831 [07:09:27] <jim> if you're talking ubuntu, maybe
packages.ubuntu.com
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833 [07:09:35] <BinBasher> as of lately I've been
experiencing a wifi / iceweasel issue, sometimes iceweasel just
disconnects but I have ping replies, no pages will load there until
I resart my wifi. Does anyone know a fix?
834 [07:09:39] <jim> if debian, packages.debian.org
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836 [07:10:41] <TomTomTosch> shibly: i wouldn't trust
anything to touch my sources. it makes sense to edit the
sources.list by hand to have fine grained control.
837 [07:11:06] <jim> as far as I know, your net is either up or
down for -all- executables, you don't have any control over
which package can or can't get net
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839 [07:11:24] <shibly> Is there any command to install
multimedia package on debian?
840 [07:11:32] <shibly> apt-get install ??
841 [07:11:47] <jim> time to research that question.
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843 [07:14:08] <shibly> Which package do you install to run .mp4,
.rm, .mp3 files?
844 [07:14:22] <jim> vlc works
845 [07:14:37] <shibly> .avi
846 [07:14:40] <jim> I dunno about rm
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848 [07:15:12] <jmcnaught> shibly: other video players like totem
will depend on gsteamer-1.0-plugins-* packages that provide support
for various file types
849 [07:15:58] <bdog7> you might want gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
850 [07:16:34] <jmcnaught> shibly: stuff like flash needs to be
installed with their own packages (flashplugin-nonfree for example).
for me a lot of this was installed automatically as part of the
task-gnome-desktop package
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852 [07:17:51] <shibly> jmcnaught, Flashplugin-nonfree is to play
.flv on browser.
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854 [07:18:47] <markybob> shibly: he knows. you asked for
multimedia.
855 [07:19:37] <jmcnaught> shibly: yes i know what it's for.
from what i understand that ubuntu-restricted-extras package pulls
in flash, codecs, microsoft fonts etc. there isn't an
equivalent in Debian that I'm aware of. Most things are pulled
in by dependencies of applications that need them, others like flash
you need to install the package on its own
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861 [07:20:59] <TomTomTosch> shibly: the codecs for the things
you asked above come with whatever player you choose. vlc or
clementine or one of the other 500.
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867 [07:23:01] <shibly> I think, vlc, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly , ffmpeg runs
almost all files
868 [07:23:14] <shibly> run
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870 [07:24:16] <shibly> smplayer is also good
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874 [07:24:52] <markybob> eh. i'd use mpv over smplayer
875 [07:25:24] <markybob> but yes vlc is good
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878 [07:27:37] <grantwu> How do I accurately determine the size
of a file, even in the presence of filesystem compresssion?
879 [07:27:47] <grantwu> (In a way that doesn't involve
parsing ls.)
880 [07:27:47] <jim> is there a guide to starting and stopping
pulseaudio? I'm trying to get pa and jack to cooperate
881 [07:28:23] <jim> I have a ubuntu guide laying around
somewhere... not trusting it too much.
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884 [07:30:22] <themill> grantwu: stat
885 [07:30:44] <Alam_Squeeze> jim: I thought you can route
pulseaudio into JACK or use pasuspender to tell pulseaudio hand off
the sound cards
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887 [07:32:09] <jim> right now, I'm trying to start jack,
it's failing, I can't empty its messages so I can't
tell where one attempt stops and another begins
888 [07:32:47] <jim> I don;t know why it;s failing, the messages
contain info from a lot of attempts
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891 [07:35:58] <jim> if you want, I can pastebin the whole
thing...
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904 [07:44:50] <jim> you may notice I'm not committing a
whole lot of effort, and you'd be right... I just don't
know what to do next
905 [07:45:01] <grantwu> themill: Thanks
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908 [07:46:29] <jim> tell me something to read; I'll read
it... or, somethign to look at... want my kernel version? my
hardware? not a problem...
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917 [07:56:20] <Abbott> is there something I can do to completely
wipe my machine remotely? Like revert to a clean image of debian?
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921 [07:57:14] <jmcnaught> Abbott: backup files you want to keep
and reinstall
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923 [07:57:36] <jim> sure, I guess... of course, doing so would
be an extreme action, especially by remote
924 [07:57:40] <Abbott> jmcnaught: how would i reinstall
remotely?
925 [07:57:50] <Abbott> or are you saying I can't
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927 [07:58:02] <jim> how did you install in the first place?
928 [07:58:36] <jim> I'm just saying, since it's an
extreme action, you should be careful
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932 [08:00:37] <jim> what if you contacted your provider, had him
give you a new vm, set it up the way you want, then have your
provider swap it (and keep the storage for the old one so you can
mount it and copy whatever across, or download it or whatever
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938 [08:02:24] <jim> once you're done with the old storage,
tell the provider that, and you'd have a brand new system, and
have the old one backed up
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943 [08:03:33] <jim> remotely just nuking it is risky...
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959 [08:15:13] <MisterGadfly> I'm slightly confused. Does
the unstable repo have these security updates thingy?
960 [08:15:58] <themill> !sid security
961 [08:15:59] <dpkg> There is no security support for unstable
(sid) at all. Uploads of new packages that fix security
vulnerabilities are handled in the same way as any other new version
-- this means it's up to the maintainer to do a new upload and
you (perhaps) to reconfigure services to cope with the new version.
This is one of the reasons unstable is not suitable for day-to-day
use in many situations. Also ask me about <moving target>.
962 [08:16:25] <themill> (and if you didn't know that
already, ask yourself whether you know enough about Debian to go
anywhere near sid)
963 [08:16:51] <MisterGadfly> themill: thanks
964 [08:17:26] <jim> how would anyone know themselves whether
they know enough?
965 [08:18:10] <jim> "ohhhh, THATS what sharp means!"
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1286 [09:57:27] <maxy> hm, lists.debian.org and wiki.debian.org
are down
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1291 [09:57:57] <Guest5540> ;/
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1293 [09:58:01] <Guest5540> is problem...
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1298 [09:58:22] <themill> maxy: yes, scheduled downtime
1299 [09:58:33] <maxy> ah
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1307 [09:59:14] <maxy> Where am I supposed to disable exim4 tls?
It's not a public mail server, just local delivery. I
grep'ed and found "ifdef MAIN_TLS_ENABLE" but where
to set it?
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1314 [10:00:16] <maxy> there doesn't seem to be anything
defining MAIN_TLS_ENABLE in /etc/exim4
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1436 [10:11:53] <iLembus> ext4 doesnt save the data in blocks like
NTFS but sort of leaves gaps and "spreads the data"
1437 [10:11:53] <iLembus> This is great when the file grows
because then the data can just be added in the gaps and there's
no defragmentation.
1438 [10:11:53] <iLembus> This has the cost that the harddrive
stops being efficent at around 80% of space used because every file
takes up a little more room
1439 [10:11:53] <iLembus> Can I disable this ext4 spreading for
specific file-types or specific folders/files such as movie files
which probably won't grow? Is this possible?
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1754 [10:13:14] <iLembus> sorry i just got kicked
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1770 [10:13:16] <iLembus> i have a question about ext4
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1775 [10:13:18] <iLembus> ext4 doesnt save the data in blocks like
NTFS but sort of leaves gaps and "spreads the data"
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1778 [10:13:18] <iLembus> This is great when the file grows
because then the data can just be added in the gaps and there's
no defragmentation.
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1781 [10:13:19] <iLembus> This has the cost that the harddrive
stops being efficent at around 80% of space used because every file
takes up a little more room
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1783 [10:13:19] <dutchfish_> !pastebin
1784 [10:13:19] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
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1795 [10:13:21] <iLembus> Can I disable this ext4 spreading for
specific file-types or specific folders/files such as movie files
which probably won't grow? Is this possible?
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1801 [10:13:22] -debhelper- Channel locked temporarily due to flood,
sorry for any inconvenience this may cause :-)
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1808 [10:14:28] <r0ck_> I havent seen any flood, by the way?
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1823 [10:15:03] <iLembus> sorry because of the long question.
it's pasted here
replaced-url
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1858 [10:17:52] <jmd> Is there a list/forum/web form where one can
request reproducibility failures be retested/unblacklisted?
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geoclue because of a .service file?
2023 [10:39:15] <blubee>
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2024 [10:39:35] <blubee> thing worked before but now redshift just
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2082 [10:57:10] <Straa> HI all, after upgradeing to debian jessie
I am getting drdy errors while booting, it seems like the new loader
(systemd) causes my system not to boot, worked perfectly in the
prior version. I am however unable to get into the system at all.
Any tips on how to proceed?
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2084 [10:57:32] <c05m1x> hi all
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2088 [11:00:35] <c05m1x> running debian 8.4 & hit a problem w/
apt-get upgrade - udev package issue
2089 [11:00:53] <c05m1x> googled but found no relevant info that
would help
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2092 [11:01:05] <c05m1x> anyone here that could enlighten me in
this regard?
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2095 [11:03:03] <teraflops> Straa: The loader is grub unless
you're using gummiboot that is not default in the installation
process from the isos.
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2099 [11:04:24] <Straa> teraflops: I think i might have .. ehr
worded myself wrong there, I am indeed using grub as a
loader,however the new default init system has changed and I am
trying to figure out if that is the reason why the system is not
able to boot.
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2105 [11:05:23] <Straa> I think it might be something to do with
my sata controller (amd 5100) and the new system init, however this
is just a theory. I've tried to disable acpi,iommu.
2106 [11:05:31] <teraflops> Straa: can you be more specific? You
got dropped to an emergency shell?
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2114 [11:05:50] <Straa> teraflops: correct,
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2116 [11:06:47] <teraflops> Straa: most.of the time is because
there is an wrong entry in /etc/fstab. Hard to say if it's your
situation though
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2127 [11:09:27] <Straa> teraflops: Normally I would say so aswell,
but it seems like it is the initialization of the drive that is
causing the issues. I'm getting soft-resets and the whole boot
process before it tries to mount takes like 10 minutes. The DRDY
errors and soft resets keep going for both drives
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2130 [11:11:26] <teraflops> Maybe kernel related? Upgrading means
new kernel. Do you have a HW raid card or something special?
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2133 [11:12:17] <Straa> no, I tried legacy and native ide modes on
the amd 5100 controller, both gave the same errors.
2134 [11:12:20] <Straa> *error
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2139 [11:13:52] <teraflops> Tried booting with a jessie ISO. It
has the same kernel you have there I suppose. If it fails the same
... Well
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2141 [11:14:57] <teraflops> Straa: but you re-checed yous fstab,
right?
2142 [11:15:02] <Straa> I've tried booting ubuntu and other
os'es and that works great
2143 [11:15:04] <teraflops> Your
2144 [11:15:06] <Straa> teraflops: yes.
2145 [11:15:19] <teraflops> Hmm. No idea then
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2147 [11:15:35] <Straa> Neither do I, I am on the brink of giving
up
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2153 [11:17:26] <teraflops> Straa: so you can boot right. Tried
looking at the logs? Enable persistent journal and check journalctl
-b1
2154 [11:17:31] <Straa> the drdy error are not fstab related, I
want to use the old system initializer (sysvinit) however I need to
get intodebian first
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2169 [11:17:37] <Straa> no
2170 [11:17:39] <Straa> I get to an emergency shell
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2172 [11:17:46] <teraflops> Dmesg, systemctl --failed and so on
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2181 [11:17:53] <teraflops> Ah
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2186 [11:17:59] <teraflops> Split :P
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2207 [11:21:41] <teraflops> Straa: I cannot see how systemd is
related since has nothing to do with an ide controller. Anyway good
luck
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2213 [11:23:23] <Straa> teraflops: I don't either, I am just
grasping at straws.
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2239 [11:34:34] <c05m1x> udev upgrade problem anyone? :-)
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2241 [11:35:41] <r0ck_> is there a newer gnome version in
backports?
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2243 [11:35:45] <r0ck_> jessie?
2244 [11:35:56] <tulphoon> r0ck_, you can always check on
packages.debian.org :)
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2250 [11:36:37] <jmd> tulphoon: Trying to find what you want there
is the proverbial needle in the haystack.
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2253 [11:37:28] <tulphoon> jmd, really? I just go stable version,
then jessie-backports and GNOME, because apparently it has it's
own section
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2257 [11:38:07] <jmd> Then you got lucky :)
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2259 [11:38:38] <tulphoon> either way is just to use a search
engine, and put in phrase like "jessie-backports "
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2261 [11:38:50] <tulphoon> oh no, i've clicked enter by
mistake
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2264 [11:39:37] <tulphoon> either way is just to use a search
engine, and put in phrase like "packages debian <PACKAGE
NAME>"
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2268 [11:40:05] <tulphoon> literally first record that popped out
was gnome package.
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2270 [11:40:32] <tulphoon> r0ck_, and answering your question, in
case you still didn't find out, there is no GNOME in backports
repo
2271 [11:41:01] <jmd> I notice that in all your sentences you used
the word "just". It is a well-known phenonemum that
whenever a modal particle is used by those offering advice, it means
that the task is trivial when one has a certain level of expertise,
but exceedingly elusive to those without.
2272 [11:41:34] <r0ck_> tulphoon: thanks, I have found it, but it
is also 3.14 :)
2273 [11:42:05] <tulphoon> jmd, firstly i need to point out, that
English is not my native language, and because of that my grammar
isn't the best.
2274 [11:42:23] <babilen> Package: gnome-shell on amd64 -- wheezy:
3.4.2-7+deb7u2; jessie: 3.14.4-1~deb8u1; stretch: 3.18.1-1; sid:
3.18.4-2; experimental: 3.20.0-1
2275 [11:42:54] <babilen>
replaced-url
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2284 [11:45:14] <babilen> r0ck_: If you *really* want a new
version of Gnome and if that is of utmost importance to you I'd
recommend to use a distribution that ships that version in one of
its stable releases. You could track Debian testing (mixed with
unstable) or even unstable, but my impression is that this is not
something you would be happy with. Please read
replaced-url
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2308 [11:48:55] <r0ck_> babilen: I think I will stay with stable
version, but 3.20 would be good to see in 6 months
2309 [11:49:06] <r0ck_> I am not sure if its possible?
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2314 [11:50:33] <teraflops> There's a gtk3 mayor rewrite that
will be fun for all the family
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2316 [11:50:42] <teraflops> In upstream I mean
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2324 [11:52:39] <MeanEYE> Why in 2016 Evolution still sucks with
Hebrew input?
2325 [11:52:44] <MeanEYE> Or any RTL for that matter.
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2601 [13:20:08] <Straa> teraflops: libata.force=noncq did the
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2637 [13:32:01] <vapawi> hi
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2642 [13:33:26] <vapawi> is there any disadvantages to installing
all the desktops and software (other than increased OS file of
course)
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2681 [13:54:27] <Krusty> Hi, Someone know a simple way to install
PHP 5.2 on Debian 8 ?
2682 [13:54:57] <Krusty> Or some Turnkey ISO with php 5.2 ?
2683 [13:55:31] <markybob> Krusty: you want to be hacked in five
minutes?
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2685 [13:56:26] <Krusty> i need it only for a test, i buyed an
Auction Script and this shit only understand php 5.2 :(
2686 [13:56:47] <markybob> that sucks for you. no easy way to make
that happen in debian
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2688 [13:57:45] <Krusty> ok, do you know some cheap or maybe
opensource auction script or marketplace ?
2689 [13:58:10] <markybob> i don't
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2708 [14:08:40] <trebor_home> hello. i installed debian8 on the
laptop (acer e15) of my daughter (&updated it) - but if she
tries to use youtube, x11 crashes. i started iceweasel via command
line, i get errors about libva (va-api 0.36.0) failing with unknown
error, fatal io error 11 (resouce is busy) on x-server.
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2714 [14:11:55] <trebor_home> what do i have to search for, to fix
this (she uses the html5 player)
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2721 [14:15:23] <markybob> trebor_home: i don't use youtube
so i'm not sure but what i'd try is installing ffmpeg from
jessie-backports
2722 [14:16:02] <markybob> !tell trebor_home about
jessie-backports
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2724 [14:16:22] <trebor_home> markybob: thank you for this hint
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2746 [14:24:49] <SanchoPensa> can anybody pls help kcik the
phuckin feds out? i think, i been root kitted
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2751 [14:25:52] <SanchoPensa> one indicator would be, my system
currently uses up some 2.6 gig of memory, although term is the only
application running, and ps aux has nothing above 0.5% mem usage.
2752 [14:25:53] <SanchoPensa> yet still 2.6 gig occupied. any
suggestions, please?
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2754 [14:26:47] <dvs> Which indicator?
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2756 [14:27:16] <SanchoPensa> ah, and yes, my cumputer completely
freezes like every half minute, like if somebody was taking a
screenshot or somehting, especially when watching movies, really
unnerving...
2757 [14:27:58] <SanchoPensa> dvs: as i wrote: i have one
application open. terminal. still top says my system is currently
occupieing 2.6 gig RAM
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2761 [14:29:00] <dvs> SanchoPensa, what does "free -m"
says on the cache/buffer -/+ line?
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2765 [14:30:12] <devster31> so I have this right now:
replaced-url
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2768 [14:30:56] <SanchoPensa> dvs: here is, what it returns:
2769 [14:30:56] <SanchoPensa>
replaced-url
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2772 [14:32:25] <SanchoPensa> this is my processlist, as you can
see, i got really nothing but the system running:
2773 [14:32:25] <SanchoPensa>
replaced-url
2774 [14:32:41] <dvs> SanchoPensa, so it's actually using
948MB of RAM.
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2776 [14:34:38] <SanchoPensa> dvs: that is odd, as top says it is
using somewhat over 2.8 gig:
2777 [14:34:38] <SanchoPensa>
replaced-url
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2779 [14:35:09] <SanchoPensa> dvs: and i am experiencing permanent
memory shortages, as soon as i have some 7-8 tabs open in what ever
browser
2780 [14:35:14] <dvs> SanchoPensa, top includes used buffers and
cache
2781 [14:35:38] <SanchoPensa> dvs: cache?!?
2782 [14:35:59] <SanchoPensa> like in ~/:.cache?
2783 [14:36:01] <dvs> SanchoPensa, file caching. Contents of files
that are held in memory
2784 [14:36:26] <SanchoPensa> dvs: err... i see., that would be
around one and a half gigabyte currently then.
2785 [14:36:39] <SanchoPensa> what contents of what files is it
keeping in memory?
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2787 [14:37:14] <SanchoPensa> dvs: to set one thing straight, i do
know that i have somebody inside, i also already once found a folder
with some 3500 screenshots of my desktop inside.
2788 [14:37:17] <dvs> SanchoPensa, most likely recently accessed
files
2789 [14:37:32] <SanchoPensa> somewhere well hiddenw ithin the
deths of the filesystem, i found them with du
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2792 [14:38:05] <SanchoPensa> dvs: except for a few libre office
files, that i have properly closed, and excvept for some tabs in a
browser not, nope.
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2794 [14:38:37] <markybob> SanchoPensa: closing things don't
take them away from ram cache. that's not how it works
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2796 [14:38:53] <markybob> SanchoPensa: it stays there in case you
use them again. if something else needs it, it releases it
2797 [14:39:04] <SanchoPensa> so how do i flush the cache,
markybob
2798 [14:39:05] <SanchoPensa> ?
2799 [14:39:26] <markybob> SanchoPensa: you leave it alone.
that's how a proper OS should work. it doesn't slow you
down. the opposite
2800 [14:39:29] <dvs> SanchoPensa, the cache flushes automatically
when more memory is needed.
2801 [14:39:51] <SanchoPensa> as said, guys, i am first of all
experiencing permanent shortage of RAM, and thqat is with 4 GB of
ram and nothing open but a browser with 7-8 tabs or so.
2802 [14:40:11] <SanchoPensa> guys, i know what a round robin is
and all.
2803 [14:40:27] <SanchoPensa> what i dont know is how to get rid
of the root kit, that i have on my computer very most likely
2804 [14:40:35] <dvs> SanchoPensa, and about 950MB is currently
being used. Everything else can be recovered easily.
2805 [14:40:39] <markybob> SanchoPensa: that's a lot of tabs
and 4G isn't much. but you thinking the 'feds' are
interested in your movie watching...well...damn
2806 [14:40:58] * dvs keeps on eye open
2807 [14:41:04] <dvs> s/on/one
2808 [14:41:10] <SanchoPensa> markybob: nope, the feds are
probably more interested in my grassroots political activities
2809 [14:41:29] <TomTomTosch> but a ticked to tijuana before they
bust you?
2810 [14:41:34] <SanchoPensa> markybob: you serieoiusly think, 7-8
tabs is a lot?!?
2811 [14:41:37] <markybob> SanchoPensa: if you think that's
the case all you can do is reinstall. even if we think you're
crazy.
2812 [14:41:40] <MisterGadfly> Maybe we should actually report
SanchoPensa to actual feds!
2813 [14:41:57] <SanchoPensa> aha, i see.
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2816 [14:42:10] <SanchoPensa> so you would deliver assange to the
feds, right?
2817 [14:42:27] <SanchoPensa> glad to see, what mindset has come
into the debian community. ;)
2818 [14:42:42] <SanchoPensa> i thought, we were once opposed to
tyranny and faschism.
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2820 [14:42:59] <markybob> i don't know what just happened
2821 [14:43:04] <SanchoPensa> nowadays it seems, you have to let
yourself be ridiculed, when you do so, cos you're
"crazy".
2822 [14:43:08] <SanchoPensa> i see.
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2824 [14:44:04] <SanchoPensa> what just happened is me complaining
about the fact, that i will not take it to be ridiculed for taking
my concerns seriously, and furthermore i am of the opinion, that you
should rather help me find out, whether i am infested, rather than
making phunof me.
2825 [14:44:07] <SanchoPensa> thats what happened.
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2827 [14:44:38] <MisterGadfly> SanchoPensa: what kind of political
activism do you do that would rile up the feds?
2828 [14:46:12] <SanchoPensa> amongst others, i had a very sever
clash with some guys in uniform on the avatar. so serious, that they
sent me an NSA guy with an advanced degree in national security and
psychology. and what i basically did, was completely dismantling
this CIA agent in disguise, who was snooping around onine activist
camps.
2829 [14:46:41] <SanchoPensa> i took that fuckers apart over a
period of 14 days, until THEY put me on a blocklist. that, is
amongst others, what i do.
2830 [14:46:50] <MisterGadfly> OOooookkk
2831 [14:47:08] <SanchoPensa> and i write articles for online
blogs, and nope, i am not gonna reveal my identity and post a few.
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2833 [14:48:18] <SanchoPensa> so.
2834 [14:48:24] <SanchoPensa> are you gonna take me serious?
2835 [14:48:28] <markybob> no
2836 [14:48:35] <TomTomTosch> !ops SanchoPensa being a risk to
national security.
2837 [14:48:35] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: tomtomtosch
complains about: SanchoPensa being a risk to national security.
2838 [14:48:43] <MisterGadfly> LOL
2839 [14:48:59] <SanchoPensa> d'uuuh...
2840 [14:49:26] <SanchoPensa> i am being a risk to my self with my
big muth, that is all.
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2844 [14:50:50] <MisterGadfly> SanchoPensa: if you're not
trolling us, then maybe you should rethink your life and stop being
so paranoid. You don't sound like big fish. Not even medium
fish. Maybe guppi fish, and they're really small!
2845 [14:51:02] <SanchoPensa> one thing s for certain though... if
i weere to depend on you guys, i'd be dead.
2846 [14:51:47] <SanchoPensa> look. you have not a single first
phucking clue, of what my work consists of. you just don't. so
any assessment of my work on part of your side, is pure speculation,
and nothing more.
2847 [14:51:53] <SanchoPensa> you just do not know.
2848 [14:51:58] <SanchoPensa> and once again.
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2852 [14:52:13] <p0g0> nice theatre
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2854 [14:52:26] <SanchoPensa> if iw ere to depend on you guys...
I'd be dead. you suckers go and be ashamed of yourselfes. HUGH.
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2857 [14:55:46] <Rephlexie> reminds me of old school efnet, where
someones "occupation" resembled an xfiles episode.
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2859 [14:57:00] <SanchoPensa> nope. nothing mysterious involved.
only a lot of politics.
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2867 [15:03:26] <AndreV> anybody experienced in vsftpd on debian?
does anonymous need declaring a particular username in userlist?
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2874 [15:06:33] <H4ndy> is there a quick way to reload my .bashrc
without relogging?
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2876 [15:06:51] <dvs> H4ndy, . ~/.bashrc
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2878 [15:07:20] <H4ndy> cheers, dvs
2879 [15:07:39] * dvs cheers
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2889 [15:12:47] <AndreV> yes. it does need declaration.
2890 [15:12:49] <AndreV> thanks
2891 [15:12:53] * AndreV cheers
2892 [15:12:56] <AndreV> :P
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2906 [15:17:43] <DJRWolf> I just bought an HP EliteDesk 705-G1 and
I plan on ditched Windows for Debian, trouble is with my two
desktops that I already have and my Raspberry Pi there is no more
room for any extra devices without also having to buy a KVM switch
and I only plan to use it for OwnCloud and a dedicated game server,
any way I can setup remote desktop from my Windows gaming PC?
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2912 [15:19:01] <dvs> DJRWolf, sounds like a job for vnc
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2914 [15:19:15] <AndreV> you definitely can
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2919 [15:20:57] <AndreV> remote desktop client-server will fix it,
I think
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2937 [15:28:18] <transhuman> Hi! I have what most people would
call a rudimentary systemd question
replaced-url
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3008 [15:55:59] <stoned>
replaced-url
3009 [15:56:46] <silverhom> u stoned?
3010 [15:56:48] <silverhom> ;D
3011 [15:56:52] <silverhom> jk...
3012 [15:57:01] <stoned>
libgl1-nvidia-glx_352.79-1~bpo8+1_amd64.deb is the package that
seems to be not be unpacked or causes problem
3013 [15:57:14] <silverhom> weird
3014 [15:57:21] <stoned> I am on debian stable, fully updated, put
in bpo soruces.list, followed the wiki
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3019 [15:58:32] <stoned> I need to get this video card working
Nvidia GTX 760. Yesterday I had a GTX 275 and I had the default
nvidia-driver package in stable installed. When I put the new video
card in, I removed everything nvidia related and purged the config
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3025 [15:59:17] <stoned> Now I'm on Nouveau driver, but I
would like to get the latest driver from backports because 760 is
supported by it. It's not supported by 340 that's in
stable, but only with 352 in backports etc.
3026 [15:59:22] <stoned> What do you suggest?
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3031 [15:59:46] <silverhom> well
3032 [15:59:56] <silverhom> does it give any more specfic errors?
3033 [16:00:00] <stoned> None
3034 [16:00:03] <silverhom> ._.
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3036 [16:00:13] <stoned> Just that it can't unpack the bpo
debs for glx
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3038 [16:00:25] <stoned> could backport packages be corrupt?
3039 [16:00:33] <silverhom> no idea
3040 [16:00:37] <stoned> I tried to dl a few diff tiems
3041 [16:00:54] <silverhom> do you install the repo or just
downloaded the package?
3042 [16:01:01] <stoned> Going the manual nvidia route is not
recommended so I'm trying to avodi that
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3044 [16:01:24] <stoned> Also the steam repo gives errors, I tired
the third party packages, and quickly changed my mind as I
don't want to filthy up my system w/ that
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3047 [16:01:34] <stoned> silverhom: check the log
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3049 [16:01:55] <stoned>
replaced-url
3050 [16:02:36] <silverhom> well idk try apt-get -t install
3051 [16:02:47] <silverhom> or is install alias for apt-get?
3052 [16:02:59] <stoned> backports are pinned w/ a 102 priority
3053 [16:03:22] <stoned> I figured I didn't need to specify
-t but I did anyway. As you can see, all the packages were fetched
from backports
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3056 [16:04:06] <silverhom> hm im not sure
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3058 [16:05:14] <stoned> You know, if I could get my 4 monitors
across 2 gpu to work in nouveau, I don't really care about
nvidia.
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3060 [16:05:30] <stoned> I have tried everythinb, but noveau
won't drive more than 2monitors on primary gpu
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3062 [16:05:58] <stoned> I need Xinerama. So if I load it, randr
dosn't load.
3063 [16:06:17] <stoned> If I load randr, I can get 4 mon to come
on, but performance in dragging windows or movign mouse is
horrendous
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3065 [16:06:26] <stoned> but then if randr is loaded, Xinerama
also fails
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3067 [16:06:47] * silverhom not expert on this :(
3068 [16:06:50] <stoned> The only way I could get 6 monitors to
work across 3 gpu (GTX 275, 8400GS x2) 2 ports each card
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3071 [16:07:22] <stoned> was to load Xinerama with nvidia binary
driver, specify 6 screens, bind each monitor to a screen and a gpu
port, and stich them all together using Xinerama
3072 [16:07:41] <stoned> Otherwise you can't move windows
across monitors w/o xinerama, you can only move mouse. no clipboard
either shared.
3073 [16:08:33] <stoned> The only thing that works for me is
nvidia driver. Now I have a new nvidia gpu and need new driver which
is not in stable. Could use suggestions, since backports fail and
nvidia binary driver installer is not recommended, and also the
steam repo fails to intall packages as well (acording to debian
wiki)
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3086 [16:14:00] <silverhom> stoned, well the thing with manual
nvidia driver is that it breaks if you update kernel
3087 [16:14:15] <silverhom> and need reinstall
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3093 [16:16:26] <stoned> Yeah, I don't need to update my
kernel. At all. I see no need.
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3096 [16:16:36] <stoned> I've been on 3.16 since I got
jessie.
3097 [16:16:47] <stoned> Would only need to reinstall if I update
kernel?
3098 [16:16:53] <silverhom> hm think so
3099 [16:16:54] <stoned> in case there is a kernel update
3100 [16:16:57] <stoned> ok, lets' try manual.
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3102 [16:17:04] <stoned> I just got removed all the nvidia stuff
from sytem
3103 [16:17:07] <stoned> going to unpin backports
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3105 [16:17:27] <silverhom> you cant have noueauv active when
installing it either
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3109 [16:17:38] <stoned> I kow
3110 [16:17:42] <silverhom> c:
3111 [16:17:51] <zz> ( Í¡° ͜ʖ Í¡°)
3112 [16:17:54] <silverhom> D;
3113 [16:17:57] <stoned> I just want to build the driver module
and load it, so I can reboot and blacklist novoo
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3116 [16:18:14] <stoned> it's a whacky spelling, I'm
just gonna refer to it as novoo from now on
3117 [16:18:16] <stoned> So much easier.
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3120 [16:18:27] <silverhom> stoned, well the nvidia installer
fails if novo is active
3121 [16:18:45] <stoned> It's fine.
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3128 [16:22:10] <stoned> WARNING: The NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS GPU
installed in this system is supported through the NVIDIA 340.xx
3129 [16:22:11] <stoned> legacy Linux graphics drivers. Please
visit
replaced-url
3130 [16:22:13] <stoned> information. The 361.42 NVIDIA Linux
graphics driver will ignore this GPU.
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3133 [16:22:27] <stoned> oh doh. Well bad paste. Anyway, I have
multi gpu system, I need a legacy driver as well as a new one.
3134 [16:22:38] <stoned> Oh, I've never done a multi gpu
debian before. :(
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3136 [16:23:11] <stoned> I have 2x 8400GS (requires legacy driver)
and 1x GTX 760 (requires the new one)
3137 [16:23:34] <stoned> Both gpu were driven by 340.xx driver in
stable.
3138 [16:23:46] <stoned> This new nvidia driver wants to ignore my
8400GS
3139 [16:24:01] <stoned> How do I install multiple nvidia drivers
in one system
3140 [16:24:04] <stoned> Any ideas?
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3157 [16:31:24] <stoned> Ahh boy, until I figure this out. I have
to go on widnows. can't even use my monitors here. heh
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3161 [16:32:40] <stoned> install composer, php, laravel on
windows, setup virtualbox homestead vm, get netbeans, github, and
start coding. run my apps in the vm. Edit code on the host. Putty to
ssh in vagrant. More hassle than I need to. I wish this thing
wasn't so weird to figure out, multiple gpu in debian stable,
one legacy, one not even in stable. LOL
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3164 [16:33:19] <transhuman> Hi! I have what most people would
call a rudimentary systemd question
replaced-url
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3169 [16:37:12] <stoned>
replaced-url
3170 [16:37:51] <stoned> 760 has 4 outputs, 2x dvi which are in
use as listed, hdmi/displayport (dp) are not used, so they're
listed as disconnected
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3172 [16:38:04] <stoned> There are 2 mon hooked up to an 8400GS in
here, but they don't even show up
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3176 [16:38:31] <stoned> Is noveau cable of doing more than
2monitors or more than 1 gpu?
3177 [16:38:39] <stoned> and randr
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3186 [16:43:06] <trewas> stoned: gtx 760 should be supported by
340.xx driver
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3188 [16:44:17] <stoned> trewas: well, when I had GTX 275 in
stable, 340 drove that and the 8400GS just fine. All mons worked.
Now I put in the GTX 760, and rebooted, and X won't start. I
looked on the wiki in supported devices and 352 is the one that
supports 760gtx
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3190 [16:45:04] <stoned> trewas: ah.
3191 [16:45:13] <stoned> GeForce GTX 760 0x1185 0x106F D is listed
in GeForce GTX 760 0x1185 0x106F D
3192 [16:45:18] <stoned> er..
replaced-url
3193 [16:45:30] <stoned> uhm... geez. stupid paste.
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3195 [16:46:15] <stoned>
replaced-url
3196 [16:46:34] <stoned> I guess, I can go back to it
3197 [16:47:56] <stoned>
replaced-url
3198 [16:48:26] <stoned> Same config, only switched out the gpu,
mon cables also in the correct dvi ports, pci paths are identical,
everything the same, but no X
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3201 [16:49:29] <stoned> I assumed, that since the video card was
many generations ahead of the 275, perhaps I needed a new driver.
3202 [16:50:04] <stoned> Let me try again and see what happens
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3205 [16:51:12] <stoned> installing nvidia-driver from stable and
no problems. Going ok. 340.96 I think
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3209 [16:52:29] <stoned> sudo cp ~/.xorg/xorg.conf.latest
/etc/X11/xorg.conf <- copy the file back. now reboot. will
consult xorg log. brb w/ report
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3228 [16:59:05] <MurciLee> Hi, Does anyone have dist-upgraded on
debian sid today?
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3230 [16:59:44] <MurciLee> I dist-upgraded my debian sid and it
won't startup x
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3232 [17:00:44] <Amun_Ra> testing/unstable: #debian-next
(irc.oftc.net)
3233 [17:01:12] <MurciLee> the #debian-next says it's invite
only
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3235 [17:03:11] <Amun_Ra> on irc.oftc.net?
3236 [17:03:31] <MurciLee> havn't tried that.
3237 [17:03:44] <Amun_Ra> that's different irc network
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3256 [17:11:55] <tjcarter> hi all, I have a udev rule that creates
a symlink for the first device it finds matching several criteria.
I'd like to write a rule that triggers on removal of the device
that created the symlink, whatever it was. SYMLINK== is not valid at
that point. What do I match on then?
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3259 [17:12:05] <LaPingvino> hello :) I read online about this KDE
program called Simon, but is it still somehow installable in Debian
or is there a spiritual successor, and how should I go about that?
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3262 [17:12:32] <stoned> xorg.conf
replaced-url
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3272 [17:15:53] <RoyK> stoned:
replaced-url
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3277 [17:16:56] <tjcarter> and I found it
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3480 [17:37:41] <corine2> Hi, this is offtopic, but I cannot ask
anywhere else - how do I make freenode resend the registration
email? #freenode did not +v me there so I cannot ask there.
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3484 [17:38:59] <halt> Hi guys, I'm building a docker images
based on debian stable, but I need external ( unofficial ) repos,
what's the least bad way to add them ? or in other way
what's the debian way to add unofficial repo ?
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3491 [17:39:53] <halt> corine2: it is very offtopic, there is a
freenode channel where ops can help you, it's working kind of
like a helpdesk as well, ask there
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3499 [17:40:20] <corine2> halt: that channel is only for
registered users - I am having issues with registration, hence I
cannot ask there :(
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3537 [17:48:07] <halt> on this (replaced-url
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3563 [17:56:14] <n-iCe> disc1 is gnome3? right?
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3574 [18:00:32] <TomTomTosch> n-iCe: gnome-core is in amd64 DVD-1
or CD-2
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3577 [18:01:06] <n-iCe> TomTomTosch: ok ok thanks, downloaded disc
1, what would be the difference between disc 1 and 2 then
TomTomTosch
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3581 [18:02:37] <TomTomTosch> n-iCe: the first disc cintains the
installation and most important packages. disc 2 and following
contain further packages ordered by importance.
3582 [18:02:56] <n-iCe> TomTomTosch: thanks.
3583 [18:03:01] <n-iCe> TomTomTosch: you use gnome
3584 [18:03:25] <TomTomTosch> n-iCe: no, but gnome is very
popular.
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3592 [18:04:50] <n-iCe> ok
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3595 [18:06:30] <TomTomTosch> n-iCe: if your computer has a
working internet connection, the netinst is all you need.
3596 [18:06:56] <TomTomTosch> n-iCe: it will install Gnome and
whatever you select during the installation.
3597 [18:07:06] <n-iCe> TomTomTosch: tried it, did the cp .iso to
sdb, and when the installation came to cd detection, says cd was not
working
3598 [18:07:10] <n-iCe> that's why I downloaded the whole iso
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3600 [18:08:01] <TomTomTosch> D:
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3621 [18:14:48] <east`> hello
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3624 [18:15:33] <east`> anyone using his debian with vmware
workstation/fusion ?
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3630 [18:17:08] <east`> i cant activate the unity mode even tho i
tested open vmware tools and off vmware tools
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3784 [18:52:02] <debiannew> Hi
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3786 [18:52:20] <debiannew> How can i set my WiFi pass in low case
using iwconfig
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3791 [18:53:35] <debiannew> ??
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3817 [18:57:09] <mtn_> debiannew: I don't think you can. that
is not the correct tool to use
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3821 [18:57:24] <debiannew> O.o
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3824 [18:57:48] <mtn_> debiannew: man iwconfig to see how to use
the command
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3833 [18:59:04] <jmcnaught> debiannew:
replaced-url
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3848 [18:59:57] <debiannew> So
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3851 [19:00:03] <debiannew> Is ir posible ir not
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3855 [19:00:13] <debiannew> Im stuck in the instllatiin
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3857 [19:00:25] <debiannew> Can u guys give me a hand
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3859 [19:00:44] <jmcnaught> debiannew: describe the problem
you're having
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3951 [19:01:04] <debiannew> Just did
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3953 [19:01:09] <debiannew> Just did
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3956 [19:01:25] <debiannew> How to set iwconfig key in lowercase
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3960 [19:02:18] <jmcnaught> debiannew: the installer will prompt
you for a WPA passphrase in its menus, maybe you could provide more
details, less carriage returns?
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3963 [19:02:30] <debiannew> What?
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3965 [19:02:37] <debiannew> I hace Just terminal
3966 [19:02:42] <debiannew> No desktop
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3969 [19:03:31] <debiannew> Thats why i ask That
3970 [19:03:31] <debiannew> Is it posible or not
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3974 [19:04:03] <exedore6> I misse dthe beginning of your problem
debiannew - what kind of wireless network are you connecting to, WPA
or WPA-PSK?
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3976 [19:04:31] <debiannew> Dont know if it matters
3977 [19:04:33] <jmcnaught> debiannew: you can connect to wifi
using the command line, i provided you with a link showing how to do
it. if you're in the debian installer, it will ask for your
passphrase and connect on its own.
3978 [19:04:36] <debiannew> Wpapsk
3979 [19:04:42] <teraflops> Iwconfig does not do WPA. Just keep.
So use wpasupplicant
3980 [19:04:43] <debiannew> So i cant
3981 [19:04:45] <debiannew> Thanks
3982 [19:04:54] <teraflops> Wep*
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3984 [19:05:09] <debiannew> Installation failed
3985 [19:05:25] <debiannew> In order to configurate software
3986 [19:05:26] <teraflops> debiannew: yes you can. use
wpasupplicant
3987 [19:05:33] <debiannew> Maybe iso is wrong
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3990 [19:06:01] <jmcnaught> debiannew: were you prompted by the
installer about missing firmwares?
3991 [19:06:14] <debiannew> No
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3999 [19:07:13] <jmcnaught> debiannew: did the installer ask you
to select an SSID and enter the PSK? how did you end up on the
command line?
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4010 [19:08:02] <benycze> Hi all .. i have one quesiont. I am
using the chromium browser and I am not able to play any videos (on
youtube for example). Do you have similar problem?
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4019 [19:09:00] <jelly> debiannew: also, did you use the
unofficial image(s) with wifi firmware included?
4020 [19:09:03] <jelly> !firmware images
4021 [19:09:03] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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4031 [19:12:19] <awal1> benycze, same issue here, yes ; (even if
it's a sid machine)
4032 [19:12:54] <benycze> awal1: Have you try to solve it?
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4037 [19:14:30] <awal1> benycze, sure, but I haven't find a
solution. firefox (iceweasel) plays fine html5/adobe flash content
on youtube but not chromium. chromium plays all everywhere, but
nothing in youtube. I really have no idea
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4041 [19:15:27] <awal1> for find a solution, one have to find the
cause first ...
4042 [19:15:35] <benycze> awal1: I will move deeper to problem.
Time to recompile the package :)
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4046 [19:16:08] <awal1> good luck, benycze
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4048 [19:16:47] <tme5> chromium uses gstreamer?
4049 [19:16:58] <tme5> or it's own media thing?
4050 [19:17:10] <awal1> benycze, which architecture ?
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4054 [19:17:54] <benycze> awal1: x86_64
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4058 [19:18:34] <benycze> tme5: I am not sure if chromium is using
gstreamer ... I think that it is using its own media thing.
4059 [19:18:41] <mtn_> benycze: awal1: chromium works quite well
on youtube
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4064 [19:19:49] <benycze> mtm_: For me .. it is just playing
sounds and no video at all. My version is 50.0.2661 .. from debian
repo
4065 [19:19:49] <awal1> mt_, not here (v. 50.0.2661.75-1)
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4071 [19:20:25] <awal1> ,v chromium
4072 [19:20:26] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- squeeze:
0.9.14.1-2; wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security:
37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 49.0.2623.108-1~deb8u1; stretch:
49.0.2623.108-1; jessie-security: 50.0.2661.75-1~deb8u1; sid:
50.0.2661.75-1
4073 [19:20:29] <mtn_> awal1: must be something wrong with that
version, then. chromium has always worked fine for youtube
4074 [19:20:47] <r6ku> yes, chromium is borked on sid, didn't
your read what apt-listbugs told you? :/
4075 [19:21:02] <mtn_> silly sid users
4076 [19:21:04] <awal1> mtn_, sid version here yes; started with
that problem since yesterday after last update
4077 [19:21:14] <benycze> mtn_: agree. It was working fine ..
maybe .. it is time to move on google-chrome :D
4078 [19:21:28] <mtn_> benycze: if you want things to work, use
stable
4079 [19:21:38] <awal1> +1 ^
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4088 [19:22:35] <benycze> mtn_: I am using stable. The update
comes as the security update
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4090 [19:22:55] <awal1> r6ku, no advices by apt-listbugs about
this specific issue
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4093 [19:23:04] <winsen> hi all
4094 [19:23:30] <mtn_> benycze: unusuall for them to break it for
stabe
4095 [19:23:32] <mtn_> stable
4096 [19:23:35] <r6ku> awal1: well, that's what I got when I
updated chromium yesterday
4097 [19:23:42] <winsen> does anyone how to fix the following
issue: W: Failed to fetch
replaced-url
4098 [19:23:44] <jmcnaught> chromium 50.0.2661.75-1~deb8u1 plays
youtube fine for me on jessie
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4100 [19:24:01] <awal1> r6ku, got whatexactly?
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4103 [19:24:15] <mtn_> winsen: chrome no longere supports 32bit
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4105 [19:24:30] <r6ku> awal1: the notice about the bug that says
chromium crashes on video
replaced-url
4106 [19:24:31] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
4107 [19:24:32] <potus> iceweasel works fine for me.
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4110 [19:24:51] <winsen> mtn: do you mean that I should correct by
"amd64é?
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4112 [19:25:02] <winsen> mtn: do you mean that I should correct by
"amd64"?
4113 [19:25:18] <mtn_> winsen: is your debian install 32 or 64?
4114 [19:25:25] <benycze> judd: Yeap ... already found it ... it
is reported. I hope they will fix it fast. I like chromium
4115 [19:25:33] <winsen> mtn: 64
4116 [19:25:41] <frusen> hi, anyone know how i can find which, if
any, package contains `libncursesw.so.6'
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4118 [19:25:55] <mtn_> winsen: then install the 64bit version
instead of the 32bit version
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4120 [19:26:17] <awal1> r6ku, ok. I have upgraded before that bug
being reported xD
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4127 [19:27:31] <benycze> frusen: You can use apt-file tool
4128 [19:27:44] <winsen> mtn: should I add this to repository:
"deb [arch=amd64]
replaced-url
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4132 [19:28:23] <frusen> benycze, problem is my system is broke :)
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4134 [19:28:50] <frusen> i cannot do much, many programs are
complaining about that library
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4142 [19:31:00] <jmcnaught> frusen:
replaced-url
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4144 [19:32:06] <frusen> yes
replaced-url
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4146 [19:32:37] <dionysus69> are there premade debian setups like
kodiubuntu for home media server solution?
4147 [19:32:51] <jhutchins_wk> frusen: curses is usually a console
menuing system.
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4149 [19:33:18] <jhutchins_wk> frusen: Have you considered
packages.debian.org?
4150 [19:33:23] <frusen> yes, i know what curses is, what i want
to do is to find a .deb, extract it, so i get the system running
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4152 [19:33:33] <frusen> many basic things does not work
4153 [19:33:38] <jmcnaught> frusen: well something from that repo
or another third party repo has software in it that is linked to a
library that doesn't exist in Debian
4154 [19:33:41] <jhutchins_wk> frusen: Lack of curses
shouldn't keep a system from working.
4155 [19:34:07] <DJRWolf> is there an ISO that is just one big one
that you can put on a 16 GB thumb drive?
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4158 [19:34:25] <winsen> mtn: I don't understand, it's
already what I have 64bit.
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4161 [19:34:51] <frusen> jmcnaught, thanks, i will look into it,
didn't think of that one. i'll return if i cannot solve it
4162 [19:34:58] <teraflops> yeah that's what happens when you
play with libncurses sonce a lot oh thing are build against that
library you does not have any more
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4164 [19:35:02] <mtn_> winsen: I would recommend going to the
google chrome site to see what they want you to do
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4166 [19:35:19] <teraflops> since a lot of things*
4167 [19:35:22] <jmcnaught> winsen: are you using multi-arch? that
would cause apt to fetch sources for i386 if you've added it as
a foreign architecture
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4170 [19:37:17] <jmcnaught> dionysus69: there are Debian blends,
and the Debian Multimedia blend has a task that includes Kodi.
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4174 [19:38:07] <jmcnaught> frusen: you may have created a
frankendebian, maybe take a look at
replaced-url
4175 [19:38:09] <dionysus69> jmcnaught: thanks I ll take a look at
multimedia. Also if I am planning to use regular pc with it and I
want to buy a custom remote, how would custom remote communicate
with pc if you know ?
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4186 [19:40:11] <jmcnaught> dionysus69: probably using software
like lirc. i don't know kodi but it might have some sort of
integration that helps set that up
4187 [19:40:17] <r6ku> dionysus69:
replaced-url
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4189 [19:40:46] <dionysus69> thanks :)
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4193 [19:41:46] <DJRWolf> is there an ISO that is just one big one
that you can put on a 16 GB thumb drive? I would prefer not having
to have 3 separate thumb drives to install it
4194 [19:41:50] <okee> Does anyone know what the Debian file name
is for flow-linux640-latest.zip???
4195 [19:42:21] <tjcarter> "flow-linux640-latest.zip"
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4198 [19:42:36] <tjcarter> unless you're asking a different
question
4199 [19:42:50] * tjcarter kinda misses dselect.
4200 [19:43:04] <tjcarter> it always had a certain pathological
charm to it ;)
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4206 [19:47:12] <jmcnaught> DJRWolf: if you have broadband you can
just use the netinst image. very unlikely you would need all thee
DVD isos
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4208 [19:49:14] <winsen> can you please tell how to fix the
following error: "deb [arch=amd64]
replaced-url
4209 [19:50:04] <winsen> can you please tell how to fix the
following error: "W: Failed to fetch
replaced-url
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4211 [19:50:19] <DJRWolf> jmcnaught ok, thank you
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4213 [19:50:39] <stoned> Tried everything, my config is fine, but
Xorg crashes when Xinerama is enabled w/ nvidia. On old gpu this
wasn't a problem.
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4216 [19:50:58] <stoned> Remember I had all 6 monitors working in
debian on gtx 275, same nvidia-driver package from stable
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4218 [19:51:14] <stoned> Now same config, same driver, same
everything, but GTX 760, and now it crashes.
4219 [19:51:20] <stoned> *sigh*
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4227 [19:54:15] <stoned> jubo2, hi
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4284 [20:14:39] <r6ku> winsen: not seeing anything related to
chrome there, maybe it's in sources.list.d directory?
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4311 [20:19:52] <winsen> can you please tell how to fix the
following error: "W: Failed to fetch
replaced-url
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4314 [20:20:27] <markybob> winsen: chrome doesn't do 32-bit
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4317 [20:20:41] <mtn_> and it starts again
4318 [20:21:04] <markybob> i just got here. *shrug*
4319 [20:21:26] <mtn_> markybob: no prob, maybe you will have
better luck ;)
4320 [20:21:44] <markybob> mtn_: nah i trust you
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4335 [20:27:52] <maxperformance> i have an old laptop and would
like to know how i can maximise its video card performance. lspci
says: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI] RV250/M9 GL [Mobility FireGL 9000/Radeon 9000] (rev 01)
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4339 [20:31:24] <maxperformance> anyone?
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4346 [20:35:24] <winsen> markybob: I am still runing chrome under
debian 64, I don't understand why I get that error?
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4354 [20:39:03] <okee> How do i get rid of the files that have the
dot in front of them, under the user account. Other people report
they don't have this problem, but this is what I ended up with
after upgrading to Jessie.
4355 [20:40:06] <Azrael_-> hi
4356 [20:40:08] <Azrael_-> if i run a command in the cronjob and
one using the command line i get different results. both commands
are called using "sudo" and changed to the same user but i
don't know where there are any more differences and how i could
replicate the behaviour in cron. any hints?
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4361 [20:41:42] <jmcnaught> okee: which file(s) do you have a
problem with?
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4363 [20:42:13] <markybob> Azrael_-: cronjob would use sh (which
is dash), not bash. but i have to go. hope you can figure it out
from that
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4366 [20:42:37] <jmcnaught> Azrael_-: instead of using sudo in the
script, could you simply put the script in that user's crontab?
or put it in /etc/crontab which lets you specify the user?
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4375 [20:45:05] <okee> jmcnaught>
replaced-url
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4378 [20:46:26] <okee> jmcnaught> My other files that are not
started with a dot, are directly below the dot files.
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4380 [20:46:55] <jmcnaught> okee: you could simply delete the ones
you don't need one by one in your file manager. even better,
move them to a different directory in case you need them later.
4381 [20:47:19] <jmcnaught> okee: or set whichever filemanager
that is to not show hidden files
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4383 [20:48:00] <okee> jmcnaught> Probably using the
filemanager to not show the hidden files is the best option. Thanks
for the feedback.
4384 [20:48:23] <maxperformance> btw, i installed xorg and was
running X on the laptop before asking here
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4386 [20:48:46] <okee> jmcnaught> Also, do you know which file
in the repos is for Selemium-java? I don't see it, but would be
surprised if it isn't there.
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4389 [20:50:23] <jmcnaught> maxperformance: your GPU might perform
better with the firmware installed. did you look at
replaced-url
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4393 [20:51:32] <jmcnaught> okee: did you search on
replaced-url
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4397 [20:52:34] <maxperformance> jmcnaught, i am running MATE and
do not want to install any non free stuff
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4399 [20:52:41] <okee> jmcnaught> I searched using apt-cache
search selenium-java and selenium*
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4401 [20:53:34] <jmcnaught> maxperformance: i understand that. if
X is working without the firmware, don't bother with it.
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4405 [20:54:50] <maxperformance> jmcnaught, are you saying that
there is no way to improve 2D performance on my laptop without using
nonfree firmware?
4406 [20:55:02] <r6ku> perform better with the firmware is an
understatement, you don't get hardware rendering without it
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4408 [20:56:43] <maxperformance> r6ku, are you talking to me?
4409 [20:56:52] <Azrael_-> jmcnaught: if i add it to the cronjob
of the user with "crontab -e -u <myuser>" it
isn't executed and i don't see any messages
4410 [20:56:58] <jmcnaught> maxperformance: take a look at the
wiki page i linked to. note that non-free firmwares while not ideal
are loaded on to the GPU, not the same thing as running non-free
drivers (like fglrx) on the CPU. lots of free drivers require
non-free firmwares, especially wifi adapters
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4414 [20:57:53] <jmcnaught> Azrael_-: did you try using
/etc/crontab?
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4416 [20:58:16] <iio7> Is it possible to use PlayDeb on Debian -
if yes, how?
4417 [20:58:35] <maxperformance> thanks to the people who replied
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4433 [21:02:04] <jmcnaught> iio7: that looks like it's for
Ubuntu. Ubuntu repos are not compatible with Debian.
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4440 [21:04:46] <awal1> I dont understand why debian collaborate
with ubuntu; relations should end
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4444 [21:06:28] <awal1> almost all ubuntu pkgs are gotten from
debian, and the reverse is at minimums...
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4459 [21:12:08] <awal1> the only interesting pkg made by ubuntu is
'lightdm'. but now we have 'sddm', lighter then
lightdm («---- install sddm sddm-theme-maui or another theme
for avoid breeze theme and kde deps/recommends)
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4467 [21:14:05] <tjcarter> lightdm originates with Ubuntu?
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4469 [21:14:10] <tjcarter> wasn't aware of that
4470 [21:14:36] <markybob> !ot
4471 [21:14:37] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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4474 [21:15:06] <zinx> tjcarter: pretty sure it doesn't
4475 [21:15:18] <tjcarter> yeah
4476 [21:15:35] <tjcarter> I didn't think so, which is why
I'm like ... orly?
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4478 [21:16:14] <markybob> it doesnt. still off topic
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4485 [21:20:23] <tjcarter> markybob: okay, it's been more
than a decade since I was a Debian developer, so nothing I say
really matters, but responding to something said in THIS channel in
ANOTHER channel that the person who said it isn't in ... is
probably absolutely ridiculously not helpful to anybody on the
planet. And cracking the whip the moment anything said veers from
the topic does not keep things moving smoothly and on topic
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4487 [21:20:25] <tjcarter> either.
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4492 [21:21:05] <markybob> tjcarter: i didn't do that.
i'm only in one channel. this one.
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4497 [21:21:34] <markybob> tjcarter: i don't know how you got
that idea. seriously.
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4503 [21:22:51] <tjcarter> and the person who made the comment was
in this channel. My response questioning it was likewise also in
this channel, as was the confirmation that the initial assertion was
incorrect. That was four lines. Already more has been said about the
off-topicness of the off-topicness than was said that was off-topic
in the first place, so I'll leave it at that.
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4505 [21:23:12] <markybob> wow
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4525 [21:26:55] <tjcarter> Anyway, I've been trying to
rewrite Raspple II's udev rules so that it behaves
intelligently on Debian systems, but still does "magic" on
RPi. If someone is particularly udev-savvy, I'd appreciate a
look
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4528 [21:27:07] <tjcarter>
replaced-url
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4541 [21:27:55] <tjcarter> with all that goto crap I feel lime
I'm working ON the Apple in basic. :P
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4664 [21:42:39] <damarusama> how do I make sure fbterm load when I
boot? after login
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4680 [21:46:53] <PryMar56> can `dpkg-deb -x` extract individual
file from the deb?
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4687 [21:48:46] <teraflops> PryMar56: idk but ar can decompress
deb packages
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4707 [21:53:36] <PryMar56> teraflops, going to extract the whole
thing into a /tmp
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4724 [22:01:02] <stoned> When I enable Xinerama, Xorg crashes
(nvidia 340.xx driver in stable on GTX GTX 760). However.
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4726 [22:01:45] <stoned> If I disable Xinerama, and define 4
screens, 4 devices, 4 monitors I can get each of them up, but no
window dragging etc.
4727 [22:02:16] <stoned> Any idea how how/where to figure out
what's causing the problem if it's not nvidia driver?
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4751 [22:10:15] <toruvinn> kinda unrelated to distros, but does
freeaddrinfo() reset errno? or can i count on errno staying the same
between freeaddrinfo() invocations?
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4824 [22:41:36] <FranklY> man I wish I could regex
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4839 [22:48:35] <pedrito> what's the best way to remove a
meta package alone, leaving its deps, and then later remove unwanted
deps?
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4842 [22:49:24] <pedrito> or, alternatively: 1) what's the
best way to remove a meta package alone? 2) what's the best way
to remove no-longer-dep'd deps?
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4859 [22:56:26] <FranklY> Given a list of urls, what's the
easiest way to parse them and wget them into specific directories?
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4862 [22:57:56] <musca> FranklY: sounds like a perfect question
for #wget
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4865 [22:59:02] <musca> for a start: -i file Read URLs from a
local or external file.
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4872 [23:00:56] <hermitanio> How could I install Debian to a large
number of computers in a small amount of time with a slow internet
connection? Can I install from a local mirror? Can I share the
installer .iso over lan somehow? This is for a 3 hour workshop.
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4877 [23:02:51] <musca> !netboot
4878 [23:02:52] <dpkg> [netboot] a Debian installation method
involving the use of TFTP and DHCP (or BOOTP, RARP) servers, to
provide installation media to clients on a local network.
replaced-url
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4880 [23:03:33] <hermitanio> Thank you musca
4881 [23:03:34] <musca> !preseed
4882 [23:03:34] <dpkg> [preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set
answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process,
to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The
<install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding
with a full example. See
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4884 [23:04:15] <teraflops> if you internet is slow but you
network doesn't consider pxe or a local mirror I suppose
4885 [23:04:22] <teraflops> your*
4886 [23:04:38] <cra1g321> don't*
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4888 [23:05:08] <hermitanio> I don't know if the internet
connection at the venue will be good or not, so I want something
reliable
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4892 [23:06:55] <FranklY> PXE it
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4894 [23:07:22] <Pablo^^> hello
4895 [23:07:25] <FranklY> PXE installing is a piece of cake,
doesn't even require a powerful server in most cases
4896 [23:08:34] <FranklY> I mean, even I managed to do it, and
that's saying something
4897 [23:09:41] <hermitanio> cool, sounds like the way to go
4898 [23:10:36] <toruvinn> hermitanio, if they're kinda
similar configurations, you could probably just dd the partitions
over lan to other PCs and reconfigure the IP (if it's not dhcp)
+ hostname there... that's the easiest and probably the fastest
way, as you only download the packages once.
4899 [23:10:45] <FranklY> ereplaced-url
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4901 [23:10:46] <Pablo^^> I have debian 7.10 with xfce , and
I'm tring to connect it to the access point wifi
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4903 [23:11:06] <FranklY> Pablo^^: use the wifi thing under the
"Internet" tab
4904 [23:11:18] <Pablo^^> the wifi is recognized , and I installed
networkmanager
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4906 [23:11:50] * Pablo^^ FranklY I haven't this icon
4907 [23:12:12] <FranklY> Pablo^^: Huh, I don't have a debian
desktop to check
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4909 [23:12:47] <Pablo^^> I do a screenshot and past here the link
a moment pls
4910 [23:12:48] <hermitanio> toruvinn: in this case it's
byoc, and part of the point of the workshop is to teach people to
install debian, so I won't really need the preseeding or such
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4912 [23:13:47] <hermitanio> Is there a way for the user of a
system installed over pxe to verify that the image being installed
is signed?
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4916 [23:15:04] <markybob> that sounds like a disaster waiting to
happen
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4919 [23:15:12] <FranklY> hermitanio: I don't like the sound
of that
4920 [23:15:14] <markybob> byoc...no accounting for firmwares
4921 [23:15:22] <markybob> jesus. just do a powerpoint
4922 [23:15:46] <Pablo^^> under internet menu I have : browser web
cromium , Iceweals , Remmina , xchat , zenmap
4923 [23:15:51] <teraflops> markybob: lel
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4925 [23:16:12] <FranklY> That's gonna end badly
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4927 [23:16:27] <FranklY> 1) PXE only really works with
pre-seeding
4928 [23:16:36] <FranklY> 2) PXE only works on a wired connection
with DHCP
4929 [23:16:44] <Pablo^^> what is the front-and for networkmanager
?
4930 [23:16:49] <teraflops> Pablo^^: afaik "that icon"
it uses networkmanager
4931 [23:16:52] <FranklY> 3) Why not just buy USB sticks en-masse
and burn ISOs?
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4934 [23:17:27] <teraflops> so nm applet or similar sorry for
being so vague
4935 [23:17:43] * Pablo^^ teraflops what icon please ?
4936 [23:18:11] <markybob> it should look like a cell phone signal
bar next to the clock
4937 [23:18:18] <teraflops> ⚡ ⎸ Pablo^^ FranklY I haven't
this icon <-
4938 [23:18:23] <Pablo^^> the alternative is use the command line
with iw* command, but I haven't this skill
4939 [23:18:40] <teraflops> Pablo^^:
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4945 [23:21:14] * Pablo^^ teraflops ok thx , but what use for example
ubuntu to scan all thw wifi network ?
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4947 [23:21:33] <teraflops> idk
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4949 [23:21:50] <markybob> this isn't #ubuntu
4950 [23:21:51] <Pablo^^> I must install : apt-get install
network-manager-gnome ?
4951 [23:22:13] <markybob> generally yes
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4958 [23:22:59] <teraflops> Pablo^^: if you want wifi in a laptop
that is moving all the time I'd recommend networknamager, if
it's a pc or similar /etc/network/interfaces or just
systemd-networkd is fine
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4960 [23:23:42] <FranklY> > not bitbanging the USB port for the
WiFi card
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5013 [23:34:25] <warsoul> command to copy paste a file please
5014 [23:34:42] <markybob> cp file newfile
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5022 [23:36:32] <markybob> damn that's what he meant?
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5029 [23:37:22] <markybob> stuff like this makes me wish english
was my first language
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5177 [23:41:36] <cluelessperson> I have a question about
enterprise level stuff
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5189 [23:41:48] <cluelessperson> ~10000 machines in the field, and
we use LDAP to manage them, with passwords.
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5192 [23:41:50] -debhelper- Channel locked temporarily due to flood,
sorry for any inconvenience this may cause :-)
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5232 [23:48:40] <wewlad> wtf
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5238 [23:49:35] <dvs> Y'all quiters!
5239 [23:49:40] <jhutchins_wk> frankie: I've used PXEboot to
do a normal, menued install.
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5241 [23:49:59] <jhutchins_wk> _FranklY: ^
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5243 [23:50:18] <_FranklY> Yeah, it does normally
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5245 [23:50:32] <jmcnaught> one downside to doing netboot is that
it doesn't support UEFI as far as i know
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5250 [23:51:25] <jml2> that's likely because netboot is
netboot
5251 [23:51:38] <jml2> meant for net boots
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5258 [23:52:50] <jmcnaught> jml2: the netboot installer can
install a system that doesn't require booting from network
every time, but only in bios mode
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5260 [23:53:27] <jhutchins_wk> jmcnaught: RedHat, but yes PXE
works with UEFI:
replaced-url
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5264 [23:54:04] <jmcnaught> jhutchins_wk: i'm talking about
the Debian netboot image. like the live isos, UEFI is not supported.
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5268 [23:54:37] <jhutchins_wk> jmcnaught: I shure someone could
figure it out if they wanted.
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5270 [23:55:03] <jml2> i read sometime ago they're adding
uefi to the live image..
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