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2[00:00:16] <dkz> hyperlumic I installed ufw, but I don't know how to migrate the iptables rules to ufw, is there any easy way?
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5[00:00:44] <hyperlumic> dkz: Not that I know if. ufw's syntax is fairly simple, though.
6[00:01:05] <ewew> Hi. It looks like i have found the solution to my issue.
7[00:01:18] <dkz> the time attempted to start ufw, warned about to lose the ssh connection, I just want to make sure I don't lose the ssh service forever :D
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9[00:01:28] <ewew> replaced-url
10[00:01:58] <hyperlumic> dkz: Step one: 'ufw allow ssh'
11[00:02:21] <dkz> hyperlumic what if the default was changed?
12[00:02:29] <ewew> If the a10 cpu has Tonga or Fiji, then its present in the firmware package for debian.
13[00:02:53] <dkz> default ssh port*
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15[00:02:56] <hyperlumic> dkz: ufw allow port/proto
16[00:03:00] <hyperlumic> dkz: ufw allow 2222/tcp, for example.
17[00:03:56] <hyperlumic> dkz: Full syntax is basically: ufw allow|deny [in|out] [proto tcp|udp|icmp|...] [from any|ip|cidr] [to any|ip|cidr] port xxx
18[00:04:15] <ewew> Probably i got confused by the R7 series graphic present in the APU.
19[00:04:24] <dkz> sounds very good to me, in fact I like the ufw syntax. I will keep reading about ufw, thanks for your help hyperlumic
20[00:04:29] <hyperlumic> dkz: Sure thing.
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55[00:17:27] <mar77i> hm. I wonder. I created this debian dvd now, and it doesn't seem to ship a proper live system.
56[00:17:51] <mar77i> somebody willing to walk me through setting up an ssh server in rescue mode?
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58[00:18:14] <Brigo> mar77i, what for?
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62[00:19:34] <mar77i> I bought this laptop new, and I'd like to keep a copy of the drives so I could reset it later (or repurpose the current os).
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67[00:21:07] <Johnny> nick Johnny 1234
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70[00:22:31] <mar77i> is there a debian live system that boots a full desktop?
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74[00:24:37] <Brigo> mar77i, yes, there is.
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76[00:25:01] <mar77i> glad I have this many blank dvds lying around.
77[00:25:01] <Brigo> mar77i, replaced-url
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81[00:25:59] <mar77i> thanks for that, I was already going to load the "clean" one from debina-cd/current-live/
82[00:26:03] <mar77i> *debian
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84[00:27:52] <mar77i> also nonfree drivers will help, since this is a "regular" consumer laptop.
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86[00:28:20] <Brigo> mar77i, usually is better the unofficial image because of that.
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189[01:30:36] <noahmg123> I am on debian unstable and using GIMP's File->Create->Screenshot results in a black screen
190[01:30:57] <noahmg123> A black image*
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195[01:31:53] <noahmg123> Similarly, using Kdenlive or Shotcut, and then using the color picker tools will result in the picked color always being black
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212[01:40:28] <guessss> Hey. Can U told me how to change language in all Desktop Enviroment LXDE in Debian to English? mean kind of standard language.
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315[02:51:51] <johnfg> Back in a few hours, which is now :-)
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318[02:52:11] <johnfg> Expecting 6" of snow "-)
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320[02:52:54] <johnfg> I note that there's a php script in cron that's not running either, a php5 script.
321[02:53:18] <johnfg> Is there anything that can be dpkg-reconfigured for php?
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464[04:14:43] <zerocool> hi guys
465[04:15:10] <mateothegreat> sup dude
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470[04:17:02] <slidinghorn> So I downloaded LiClipse and I was wondering if there was a way for my launcher to see it rather than adding its directory to $PATH - Say, maybe moving it to /opt and symlink from /usr/local/bin? Is that asking for problems?
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490[04:32:33] <slidinghorn> oops, I meant to post that in the OFTC channel :/
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899[10:00:41] <zefyx> what's the latest testing kernel with all these recent exploits patched?
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913[10:07:17] <babilen> zefyx: fwiw, just pull it from unstable. Security support in testing is patchy at best
914[10:07:22] <babilen> *ba-dum-tsh*
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918[10:11:04] <atralheaven> Hi, I have Debian 9 with Gnome, I want to enable VPN (OpenVPN) autoconnect, I don't find the option on the network manager settings, what can I do? I want my VPN to be always connected
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934[10:14:33] <Zad> hello, do these SMART test outputs mean that I should replace the disk asap? replaced-url
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936[10:15:27] <babilen> atralheaven: You can edit your ethernet/wifi connection and specify "Automatically connect to VPN when using this connection" in "General"
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938[10:16:49] <babilen> Zad: yes
939[10:17:01] <atralheaven> babilen: that is exactly what I'm looking for, which I don't have in the settings!
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941[10:17:31] <babilen> atralheaven: Which Debian release are you using? Which network-manager-gnome version?
942[10:17:59] <Zad> babilen, is it likely that I may have already lost any data that I thought was saved on disk?
943[10:19:09] <babilen> Zad: Hard to say, but you are definitely seeing some errors when reading from that disk
944[10:19:54] <atralheaven> babilen: Debian 9, and everything is up-to-date
945[10:20:07] <Zad> babilen, do you specifically refer to the line that says 'failing now', or the other two lines that say 'read failure', or both?
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952[10:21:46] <babilen> Zad: All of them, plus the fact that some tests you ran showed errors also
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957[10:23:05] <babilen> atralheaven: That version should definitely have that option. Are you sure you look in the right place? You right-click on nm-applet, then "Edit connections..." then you select your ethernet/wifi (not your VPN!) → General
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959[10:24:00] <jelly> Zad: you have an old disk with one (1) unrecoverable error, and a high count of spin-up and spin-down. This disk might work for years, but it's best to move off any important data right now.
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962[10:24:07] <babilen> Huh .. I seem to have a newer version installed here
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965[10:26:14] <Zad> jelly, since I need to continually save data on it, that means best to replace it
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968[10:28:06] <Zad> jelly, which are the indicators that show the spin rates you mention? also, where did you see the disk was old?
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970[10:28:37] <Zad> spin up time shows zero, for ex.
971[10:30:20] <atralheaven> babilen: I don't have these options, are you on gnome 3? there is Wi-Fi settings > settings icon for the wifi connection > and no general tab (actually no tabs on the top, its on the left side) I remember I had that option on ubuntu, but its missed here
972[10:31:01] <babilen> No, I don't use Gnome 3
973[10:31:39] <babilen> jelly: Do you remember the name of that factoid that found all packages that had a version that wasn't in one of the currently configured repositories?
974[10:31:55] <babilen> (themill came up with some great aptitude search term)
975[10:32:37] <jelly> um, !obsolete ?
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977[10:32:57] <babilen> dpkg: not available
978[10:32:57] <dpkg> To get a list of packages you have installed now, that are not available from any repository in your sources.list: aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'
979[10:33:03] <jelly> Zad: that's the one failing_now
980[10:33:04] <babilen> That's the one .. (linked in obsolete)
981[10:33:26] <atralheaven> I think the old version was like that, big tabs on the top, but its different, its like that: replaced-url
982[10:33:41] <Zad> jelly, ah, right, thank you
983[10:33:48] <jelly> Zad: power on hours suggest it's merely 2 years, but that can wrap over
984[10:34:01] <Zad> right
985[10:34:23] <Zad> just wondering, does it fix anything to run fsck?
986[10:34:45] <jelly> fsck only cares about filesystem metadata
987[10:34:54] <jelly> which is a tiny amount of space
988[10:34:58] <babilen> There are two aspects to this: 1. The disk itself (which is showing signs of wear and tear) and 2. The filesystem (which might be perfectly fine at the moment)
989[10:35:13] <babilen> And fsck might run through without issues
990[10:35:22] <babilen> You could check for bad blocks
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992[10:35:44] <jelly> (unless you have a decent filesystem like zfs, which has checksums for both data and metadata)
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1001[10:38:47] <ballangddang> if I write scripts in `/etc/profile.d/.` and restart my shell as a guest, the script won't get executed. Does anyone know why ?
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1011[10:40:27] <well_laid_lawn> ballangddang: how do you restsrt your shell as a guest ?
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1013[10:40:51] <atralheaven> any ideas, babilen?
1014[10:40:57] <Zad> I am checking meanwhile other drives, too, and one of them could not be tested with the error '/dev/sdb: Unknown USB bridge'..does it mean the drive is not suitable for SMART test?
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1017[10:41:35] <babilen> atralheaven: As I said, I don't have the stretch version installed right now and I'm using testing with nm-applet as opposed to the gnome shell widget. I don't think my results are conclusive.
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1019[10:43:20] <atralheaven> babilen: isn't there any other way to set that? editing a text file or something like this?
1020[10:43:22] <ballangddang> well_laid_lawn: well I just close and open a new terminal..
1021[10:43:39] <babilen> atralheaven: If you look at /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/YOUR_CONNECTION you want to define "secondaries=$UUID" with the UUID found in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/YOUR_VPN in 'uuid'
1022[10:43:52] <Zad> ah, maybe because it has GPT partition table?
1023[10:44:00] <babilen> atralheaven: No idea how/where to get that .. and as I said: I compare to a different version that might very well not support that
1024[10:44:06] <well_laid_lawn> ballangddang: there's nothing 'guest' about that. do you have dot files for the shell ?
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1027[10:46:11] <kompowiec2[m]> mappojy: it's depends of repositrory in /etc/source.list - sources are .tar, .deb are normal ftp.name-coutry.debian.org
1028[10:46:38] <ballangddang> well_laid_lawn: I was not meaning guest, I meant a not root user. If I open a terminal and type `source /etc/profile` it will load my scripts and if I connect with `su -` to my root, the script loads as well. But If I open a terminal with a general user it's as if it doesn't trigger /etc/profile as I connect. I just try to set up some properties system wide so everyone can access them
1029[10:47:18] <mappojy> kompowiec2[m]: I'm mostly wondering where are the manpages located, as I'm trying to download only man pages from the mirror. I don't understand where they're stored
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1032[10:48:09] <well_laid_lawn> ballangddang: do you know what a dot file is ?
1033[10:48:19] <ballangddang> well_laid_lawn: sure
1034[10:48:33] <kompowiec2[m]> mappojy: manpages usually are in package
1035[10:48:38] <ballangddang> well_laid_lawn: i am no beginner lol I just report a weird behavior
1036[10:48:51] <well_laid_lawn> ballangddang: any dot files for the shell in your user directory ?
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1038[10:49:12] <ballangddang> well_laid_lawn: yes actually there is one for this user but it's empty..
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1040[10:49:44] <kompowiec2[m]> i have quick question - i installed debian buster my mom and have netbook with... intel atom. Which web browser would work so well on this crap? Midori?
1041[10:49:45] <ballangddang> well_laid_lawn: the .bashrc right ?
1042[10:50:00] <well_laid_lawn> thats one
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1044[10:50:15] <mappojy> kompowiec2[m]: yes, I'm looking into /pool/main/ and trying to locate what I should download... if the .tar.xz files or the .deb files. Or maybe should I look in /dists/stable/main/source/ ?
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1046[10:50:24] <well_laid_lawn> there is .profile which takes precedence
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1049[10:51:57] <ballangddang> well_laid_lawn: hmm I didn't see this one, but I just checked and nothing harmful, just adding something to the $PATH and calling .bashrc
1050[10:52:07] <kompowiec2[m]> mappojy: sources as the name suggests required compilated (usually .configure && make && make install) if you have newer PC it the difference will be unnoticeable.
1051[10:52:17] <ballangddang> help!
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1055[10:54:57] <ballangddang> well_laid_lawn: I just removed .bashrc and .profile (not for fun) and relog in my shell, but still something prevents the scripts in /etc/profile.d to exec
1056[10:55:34] <ballangddang> I am using gnome-terminal and i3
1057[10:55:41] <ballangddang> i3 and gnome-terminal
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1061[10:58:47] <Zad> jelly, babilen, thank you very much for your help!
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1067[11:02:15] <armin> when having scheduled a poweroff, i get "system is going down for poweroff at ..." messages when logging in to that box via ssh. can i disable these messages?
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1072[11:03:36] <armin> ballangddang: first of all, friends don't let friends use gnome-terminal on i3. nevertheless, did you try creating those files with just 'echo "his, this is profile/bashrc/blah" in it and see what gets executed and when?
1073[11:04:02] <armin> ballangddang: the files you get in your ~ on a fresh installation are being copied over from /etc/skel so you can look there.
1074[11:04:07] <ballangddang> i just can't use urxvt I hate it lol
1075[11:04:33] <armin> ballangddang: did you try xfce4-terminal, terminator, lilyterm?
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1077[11:04:55] <armin> ballangddang: that's just 3 alternatives that have more features and are more lightweight. all configurable via the GUI.
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1081[11:05:18] <armin> ballangddang: i'm not trying to force some terminal emulator on you, but i think it's worth mentioning.
1082[11:05:25] <ballangddang> armin: hmm I never tried but I don't know gnome-terminal suffise
1083[11:05:35] <armin> fair enough.
1084[11:05:43] <ballangddang> but I'll try
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1087[11:06:05] <armin> ballangddang: anyways, look for the bashrc/profile files in /etc/skel
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1089[11:06:12] <armin> ballangddang: also, do backups.
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1091[11:06:20] <kooldavi> hi there. my second screen is disabled (black). in kde plasma settings and it is not shown. xrandr doesn't list it either. i had this problem a few months ago, the solution was to delete a file in /home/user/.config, but i can't remember which file it was. does anyone know this?
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1094[11:07:07] <armin> kooldavi: is it shown in "xrandr | grep connected | grep -v disconnect"?
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1098[11:07:54] <armin> kooldavi: if it's not shown there, i'm very sure that it's not a configuration problem and am also very sure you can't fix this by deleting some dot-file.
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1100[11:09:50] <kooldavi> armin, no, it's not shown in xrandr | grep connected | grep -v disconnec. the screen works while loggin in.
1101[11:09:54] <s10gopal> can anyone please build a kernel for me , it takes more than 3.5hours on my machine . 408c9861c6979db974455b9e7a9bcadd60e0934c is good and cbcd4f08aa637b74f575268770da86a00fabde6d is bad
1102[11:10:22] <s10gopal> can anyone please build a kernel for me , it takes more than 3.5hours on my machine . 408c9861c6979db974455b9e7a9bcadd60e0934c is good and cbcd4f08aa637b74f575268770da86a00fabde6d is bad
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1104[11:10:35] <ballangddang> armin: what is the very first file called from /etc and /etc/skel (or from other system-wide configuration locations)
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1106[11:10:46] <kooldavi> armin, as i said i had the same problem a few months ago and after removing one file it worked again. so it's some configuration problem with kde-plasma..
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1114[11:17:09] <kooldavi> ah, i got it. removing the /home/user/.kde folder worked..
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1134[11:24:44] <armin> kooldavi: strange.
1135[11:25:18] <armin> ballangddang: i don't know. it's easy to find out by trying.
1136[11:25:41] <kooldavi> armin, :)
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1138[11:25:47] <armin> ballangddang: it's also pretty different depending on the operating system or distribution, too.
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1140[11:26:03] <kooldavi> armin, but thank you for your help :)
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1142[11:26:24] <armin> kooldavi: if you find out what it was, i'd be interested to know.
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1144[11:26:42] <armin> kooldavi: well i only tried to help, but at least i tried.
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1147[11:28:17] <kooldavi> armin, it's something with the auto-saved settings in kde-plasma. it always appears if i disable the second screen via kde settings and then reboot through kde menu -> shutdown
1148[11:28:54] <kooldavi> armin, if i shutdown or reboot via konsole the error does not appear.
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1152[11:29:50] <kooldavi> armin, but i don't understand why kde doesn't list the screen as disconnected...
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1187[11:43:56] <mappojy> can somebody please explain to me the difference between *.orig.tar.gz and *.debian.tar.xz in the mirrors?
1188[11:44:20] <mappojy> like here for example replaced-url
1189[11:45:09] <mappojy> .dsc contains the package description, _all.deb the binaries for all architecture, but I dont understand the other 2
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1200[11:49:49] <BanHammor> mappojy, replaced-url
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1207[11:54:17] <themill> babilen: at least it is now established than I was both not available and obsolete.
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1214[11:59:26] <babilen> heh :)
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1231[12:09:32] <mappojy> BanHammor: so in /pool/ there are *all* the actual packages and sources, whereas /dists/ basically contains references to which packages (in pool) belong to which distro, right?
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1236[12:10:28] <BanHammor> yes
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1238[12:11:06] <BanHammor> give or take some additional files that check the hashes, anyway
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1246[12:16:08] <chmd_> Hi there. I have an interface that is marked as configured "manually". It is created in the pre-up commands. Some routing command at post-up occasionally fails, leading ifupdown to believe that the entire interface to believe that the whole thing failed
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1248[12:16:49] <chmd_> when I use ifdown to delete the interface, it tells me that the interface is not configured
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1251[12:17:42] <chmd_> then when I use ifup, the command fails again since the device is created at pre-up and still exists from the previous failed attempt
1252[12:18:33] <chmd_> is there a way to perform a cleanup action when one {pre,post,}-up command fails?
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1255[12:20:05] <evilman_work> chmd_: nope, but you can move the up/down commands into the script with error handling.
1256[12:21:08] <chmd_> hum, ok
1257[12:21:24] <mappojy> got it Thanks BanHammor
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1279[12:38:38] <vmg3> hi, I'm having an issue with nemo on cinnamon "(nemo:1881): Gtk-WARNING **: Symbolic icon view-compact-symbolic-ltr of size 16 is in an icon theme directory of size 128" getting a lot of this in log mv or cp works fine tia
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1306[12:56:37] <Digitec> hi
1307[12:57:03] <Digitec> somebody knows how to make port forwarding /dev/ttyUSB0 from x2go client to x2go server ? please help
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1330[13:14:13] <Ool> Digitec: I think you can mount your device and share the directory with Xégo client to your x2go server
1331[13:14:20] <Ool> x2go*
1332[13:14:41] <Digitec> thanks for a reply
1333[13:14:59] <Digitec> device - bar code scaner
1334[13:15:04] <Ool> arf
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1372[13:43:38] <mappojy> from the list of packages, for example in /dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz is it possible to know which packages contain manpages without having to download all of them?
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1374[13:44:33] <jelly> mappojy: not from Packages files. You'd have to get Contents files, use apt-file to search contents.
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1376[13:44:56] <jelly> or /msg judd file some_path_substring
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1394[13:58:33] <mappojy> jelly: inside Contents-amd64 for example I've found "usr/share/man/man6/0ad.6.gz games/0ad" IIUC this means that the package called "0ad" will install a file called usr/share/man/man6/0ad.6.gz is this correct?
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1398[14:01:01] <carlo75> ciao
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1404[14:02:08] <mappojy> ciao
1405[14:02:25] <jelly> mappojy: yes. often (not sure if always?) the contents omit the first /
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1407[14:02:50] <jelly> mappojy: the path will be /usr/share/man/man6/0ad.6.gz
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1409[14:03:32] <mappojy> jelly: why is "games/" there tho? It confuses me? Isn't the package just called 0ad?
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1412[14:03:45] <themill> it's in section 'games'
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1414[14:04:17] <jelly> ,info 0ad
1415[14:04:18] <judd> Package 0ad (games, optional) in stretch/amd64: Real-time strategy game of ancient warfare. Version: 0.0.21-2; Size: 5107.1k; Installed: 18473k; Homepage: replaced-url
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1418[14:04:30] <mappojy> themill: are there packages in different sections that have the same name?
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1421[14:06:04] <themill> no
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1423[14:07:02] <jelly> package names are unique within an architecture
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1425[14:07:19] <mappojy> themill: so the section here "games/0ad" is just verbose, isn't it?
1426[14:07:51] <themill> this is why abstractions like apt-file exist btw
1427[14:08:34] <mappojy> themill: I'm just trying to understand how to download all manpages from a mirror, download the least amount of data possible
1428[14:09:31] <themill> I wonder if replaced-url
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1433[14:11:43] <mappojy> that page looks like an extract of Contents-*.gz
1434[14:12:07] <themill> sort of. It's correctly finding all the man pages
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1436[14:12:48] <themill> apt download $(apt-file search --package-only usr/share/man) would work fwiw
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1439[14:13:47] <themill> actually, at 17k packages, you'd probably need to use xargs to save it overflowing
1440[14:13:49] <mappojy> so far I think the only way to download all manpages is like this: grep Contents-*.gz to extract list of packages with files in /usr/share/man/ then use this list to search packages in Packages.xz from which I can retrieve the binary in /pool/ to download. Finally extract the files from the .deb archive
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1442[14:14:09] <themill> That would work if you wanted to reimplement both apt and apt-file.
1443[14:15:14] <mappojy> themill: can I "apt-file search" for different architecture than mine?
1444[14:15:20] <themill> yes
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1446[14:17:05] <themill> You might find chdist or apt-venv handy.
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1448[14:17:49] <themill> It might also be worth stepping back from this task and working out what you're going to achieve from it. It's hard to see this being useful, really.
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1450[14:18:52] <mappojy> themill: I just want to download all manpages, that's it. Easy in theory, not so easy to achieve )
1451[14:19:12] <jelly> and what do you want to do with all the manpages then?
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1453[14:19:38] <themill> mappojy: it's very easy to do. You'll need an awful lot of disk space, bandwidth and then some years to read them all.
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1455[14:20:30] <jelly> reimplement replaced-url
1456[14:20:35] <mappojy> if I could download only the manpages instead of having to download all the binaries, I'm sure it wouldn't take so long
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1458[14:22:39] <mappojy> jelly: actually yes I'd like to try that
1459[14:23:05] <themill> manpages.debian.org already exists
1460[14:23:24] <themill> (and making it work in a way that didn't kill the hosting machine was non-trivial)
1461[14:23:52] <Tsutsukakushi> themill: what made that non-trivial?
1462[14:24:01] <mappojy> ok that's fine, I don't want to write a replacement for manpages.debian.org, but I'd like to try make something similar
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1467[14:26:35] <themill> Tsutsukakushi: caching the right thing, CPU time for rendering, balancing ahead-of-time rendering and the disk space that implies with on-demand rendering and the CPU usage that implies. And then getting spidered by $everything thus meaning you really do have to render and store everything
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1501[14:50:45] <mappojy> themill: thanks for the apt-file suggestion, it seems to work perfectly. Do you think 1) list packages with apt-file 2) find packages in Packages.xz 3) download binaries 4) extract binaries is the way to go? Or do you think I can simplify this more?
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1512[14:53:36] <mappojy> actually... considering that debian is already maintaining manpages.debian.org, shouldn't there be a repository already with all manpages maintained by the maintainers of manpages.debian.org?
1513[14:54:02] <themill> There is no need for you to touch Packages.xz, apt can already do this for you
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1516[14:55:52] <mappojy> themill: apt-file only returns the package name, not the version or the actual path to .deb so I don't know the exact file to download
1517[14:56:25] <themill> apt does
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1519[14:57:58] <mappojy> themill: can you please give me an apt example that returns the .deb filename given "0ad" and "amd64" options?
1520[14:58:23] <themill> why do you need the deb filename?
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1522[14:59:38] <mappojy> to locate the file in the mirror
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1524[15:00:31] <themill> that's apt's job
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1526[15:00:52] <mappojy> or if I can say "apt download 0ad i386 into ./folder" that would work too
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1528[15:01:09] <themill> (cd foo; apt download 0ad:i385)
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1530[15:02:40] <themill> although specifying the arch for arch:all packages will fail. Better to use chdist or apt-venv as mentioned earlier
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1533[15:04:53] <ikus060> I need to make modification to the source code of a project. I know it's possible to fetch the source from apt, then recompile and install from deb. I did it in the past, but I don't have a good memory ! May someone help me ? Thanks !
1534[15:05:25] <themill> !package recompile
1535[15:05:26] <dpkg> 1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude -R build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>, <nocheck>, <nostrip>, <apt-get source>.
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1550[15:13:21] <likcoras> ibus-hangul is actin really weird... typing "ㅇㅏㄴㄴㅕㅇ<space>" should produce "안녕" but instead produces "안 녕" (space is incerted before the second character). Currently, I'm working around it by typing '.' after each character, since it ends the current character (and inserts a '.', which I need to remove).
1551[15:13:33] <likcoras> Ah, on rxvt. Forgot to mention that.
1552[15:14:08] <likcoras> relevant .Xresources: URxvt.inputMethod: ibus, URxvt.preeditType: Root
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1554[15:14:26] <likcoras> Tried with other preedintTypes, but they all produce the same behavior.
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1566[15:22:43] <ikus060> themill: thanks !
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1573[15:25:23] <silicate> Hi, could someone help me figure out why steam is failing to load radeonsi_dri.so and other files? I'm running Debian 9.x with the Trinity Desktop installed
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1576[15:26:15] <silicate> I've already installed libgl1-mesa-dri
1577[15:26:35] <jelly> silicate: does steam want 32bit or 64bit libraries?
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1579[15:27:14] <jelly> perhaps you don't have libgl1-mesa-dri:otherarchitecture isntalled
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1581[15:27:45] <jelly> otherarchitecture probably being i386
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1585[15:28:12] <silicate> Ah okay, so would I specify amd64 then for a 64-bit installation?
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1588[15:28:36] <Tenkawa> yep
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1590[15:28:45] <jelly> you'd specify the arch your app uses
1591[15:29:01] <jelly> if steam is i386, it needs i386 libs
1592[15:29:10] <jelly> if steam is amd64, install amd64 libs
1593[15:29:25] <Tenkawa> it might need components of both
1594[15:29:32] <jelly> that's unlikely
1595[15:29:38] <Tenkawa> you need to read its pre-reqs
1596[15:29:47] <Tenkawa> it should be documented
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1599[15:30:16] <silicate> I've already installed libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
1600[15:30:21] <silicate> Err
1601[15:30:26] <silicate> dri:i386
1602[15:30:36] <silicate> I'm running irssi and got this confused with my terminal, lol
1603[15:31:14] <jelly> silicate: what does "dpkg -l steam" say, is it i386 or amd64?
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1606[15:32:33] <silicate> under Err? it says "(none)/Reinst-required"
1607[15:32:48] <silicate> I'm guessing that means I need to reinstall steam?
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1613[15:34:23] <jelly> silicate: how did you install it in the first place?
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1616[15:34:46] <jelly> if it wasn't via deb packages all bets are off
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1696[16:16:50] <Bierjpg|X8> Idiots ...
1697[16:16:57] <Bierjpg|X8> Mainboard from Ebay
1698[16:17:11] <Bierjpg|X8> and they written on it with EDDING
1699[16:17:12] <Bierjpg|X8> ...
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1788[17:12:22] <tw> Does the debian installer upgrade the kernel automatically at install time if it is out of date?
1789[17:12:45] <greycat> yes, just like every other package
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1792[17:13:50] <tw> That's what I expected, but I just did an install from 9.0 amd64 netboot and ended up with 4.9.0-3-amd64 instead of -5 or -6 like I was expecting.
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1794[17:14:26] <greycat> Hmm. Weird. Did it not install the linux-image-amd64 metapackage?
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1796[17:14:46] <jhutchins_wk> ,kernels
1797[17:14:47] <judd> Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.15.0-2-686 (4.15.11-1); buster: 4.15.0-2-686 (4.15.11-1); stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.82-1+deb9u3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports:
1798[17:14:48] <judd> 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3)
1799[17:15:16] <tw> It did. After I booted into it, I dist-upgraded to 4.9.0-6-amd64
1800[17:15:36] <tw> But it didn't do it in the installer, which I thought odd.
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1802[17:16:56] <jelly> tw: that's one of the things updated installer images are useful for, probably
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1806[17:17:36] <tw> I pulled the 9.4-netboot while the installer was running, I just didn't have it on hand and figured it'd be okay.
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1811[17:18:42] <tw> It's just curious that was what happened. I wonder if it's intentional or a bug.
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1813[17:19:16] <jelly> why not both
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1815[17:19:33] <tw> A feature, you say?
1816[17:19:47] <jelly> (I don't the installer does a full-upgrade / dist-upgrade at any point)
1817[17:20:04] <jelly> think*
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1832[17:29:34] <jelly> tw: it's a kind-of feature if you know for sure 9.4 kernel won't boot on your system but 9.0 kernel will
1833[17:30:05] <jelly> you don't get upgraded to new kernel ABI that fails for you
1834[17:30:42] <greycat> hmm, hadn't considered that
1835[17:30:56] <jelly> (but yes you'd probably be able to pick the old kernel in boot loader menu)
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1864[17:46:55] <RoyK> jelly: 9.4 kernel? ;)
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1873[17:49:38] <jelly> yes, did you not hear? Linus is skipping numbers 5-8 because they're evil
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1879[17:50:29] <greycat> Obviously he has to do that to catch up to Debian's version numbers. We're winning.
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1883[17:51:41] <Li> apt-cache search laptop-mod-tools > No results! apt-cache search laptop-mod > the result is: laptop-mod-tools
1884[17:53:03] <jelly> ITYM apt-cache search laptop-mod > the result is: laptop-mode-tools
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1886[17:54:34] <jelly> Li: copy/pasting from and into the terminal is usually a better idea than typing long package names manually?
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1901[18:04:17] <Li> jelly: The question is why apt-cache search giving result with incomplete package name but not able to return the same result (at least) with the exact complete package name
1902[18:04:59] <jelly> Li: you made a typo
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1906[18:06:21] <n4dir> and if not sure about the name, it can help to stick to what you know for sure (assuming copy/paste ain't possible). apt-cache search --names-only laptop ; would have worked, for example (just as your "laptop-mod").
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1913[18:09:08] <Li> finally google was very kind to me and hooked me up with systemctl hibernate .. it's a great command for stupid gnome gui that doesn't allow me to hibernate my laptop .... it was very exciting moment until I had to turn on my debian box where in the middle of the process the laptop's screen remained blank forever
1914[18:10:15] <Li> duh why my laptop can't make life simple and be able to come back from hibernation
1915[18:10:43] <notadeveloper> hi
1916[18:10:53] <notadeveloper> can someone help me with pulseaudio
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1929[18:18:41] <Li> I think if there no hope from debian then should move other os than linux
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2005[19:06:28] <Release_> greetz folks, anyway to install pkg-config in user instead of system wide and if so any tuttorial available ?
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2008[19:06:56] <greycat> Why would you want it for a single user only? Just install the package.
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2014[19:07:58] <Release_> i dont have access to root on this box is reason why
2015[19:08:11] <greycat> *plonk*
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2017[19:08:43] <tw> huh, weird. so when you delete a primary address in debian, it deletes all secondary addresses on that interface. There doesn't appear to be a way to smoothly transition a network interface from one address to another.
2018[19:08:56] <tw> Is there a trick to this I'm missing?
2019[19:09:09] <tw> replaced-url
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2035[19:18:48] <johnfg> xar-: Howdy! I just got back into the office, so not sure what your last comment: just curious if there's a rough approximation; cuz in johnfg's case, he's going through the pain of
2036[19:18:52] <johnfg> migrating to php7.(0); why not just go for broken and do 7.2.x
2037[19:18:55] <johnfg> was about.
2038[19:19:21] <johnfg> I'm still not able to see the pages in php.
2039[19:19:46] <greycat> So find the logs and read the errors and fix 'em.
2040[19:20:20] <greycat> And no, we don't suggest going to a post-stable version of PHP.
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2047[19:21:54] <xz> is there some organization that tests debian (or other distros) on variety of hardware platforms? E.g. new graphics cards, NVMe drives, USB3.0 devices etc.?
2048[19:22:12] <greycat> We call them "end users". ;-)
2049[19:22:37] <xz> I know of LTP but that seems to be only kernel source code validation, closer to unit tests
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2051[19:22:52] <xz> what I'm thinking of is full system test to make sure that different components work together
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2054[19:23:10] <xz> interesting, these days one would think that there is demand for that kind of service
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2056[19:23:43] <xz> the problem with end users is that many of them don't report problems or don't provide useful information other than 'doesn't work'
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2059[19:24:22] <greycat> Unless you're volunteering to do this enormous amount of work, I'm not sure why you expect someone else to have done it already.
2060[19:24:41] <xz> I am exploring if there is business use case
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2062[19:24:54] <xz> I am capable of setting something up but somebody has to pay for it eventually
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2067[19:27:33] <hypn0> replaced-url
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2071[19:28:39] <xz> what I'm thinking of would be an open-source webbased service that would simply provide access to test results of x amount of full-systems in a form of a grid (something like buildbot maybe). So that it becomes easy to find out quickly what fails. Then these tests could run 24/7 on different distros/kernel versions. I would imagine companies like I
2072[19:28:39] <xz> ntel/Nvidia would be themselves interested in providing necessary hardware.
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2075[19:29:17] <xz> and then usually in linux world projects like that are joint-ventures of big players, so I would imagine there could be some funds taken directly from Intel/AMD/Nvidia/others and maybe linux foundation
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2078[19:30:29] <xz> assuming the interface would be easy to browse and make it quick for users to find out necessary information - IMO that makes some business sense for a) whoever makes it, b) consumers (big players / kernel devs)
2079[19:30:39] <xz> well, not only kernel because user space stuff would get tested also
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2083[19:31:21] <xz> but then, has anybody ever created something like that? I know that many companies run 24/7 tests for very limited amount of hardware platforms, but never heard of bigger scale project
2084[19:31:34] <johnfg_> hey guys, I set in /etc/php/7.0/apache2/php.ini display_errors = On
2085[19:32:01] <johnfg_> but nothing is showing up in my open terminal when I access a php web page.
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2087[19:32:24] <johnfg_> When I'm at the console, running the mate desktop, where does stdout go?
2088[19:32:39] <RoyK> probably in the error log
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2090[19:32:42] <greycat> whaaaat
2091[19:33:03] <greycat> Why would you expect the errors from your WEB SERVER to appear in your USER'S desktop error log file?
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2096[19:34:22] <greycat> And that's even assuming the web server is on the same box as the Mate desktop session, which sounds extremely unlikely.
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2101[19:35:07] <johnfg_> greycat: I guess I don't know what to expect. It says there in php.ini, that when you set display_errors = On, that they are sent to STDOUT.
2102[19:35:36] <johnfg_> greycat: They are on the same box.
2103[19:36:04] <greycat> If the PHP page is being processed by a web server, then you would expect any errors to be in the web server's logs.
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2105[19:36:15] <johnfg_> So do I need to redirect STDOUT so I can see if there are any errors?
2106[19:36:23] <greycat> e.g. /var/log/apache2/errors.log or something virtual-host-specific that you have set up
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2108[19:36:43] <greycat> stdout of WHAT? your web browser? the web browser does not see these errors.
2109[19:37:01] <greycat> or if it does, it renders them on the screen as the web page
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2111[19:37:02] <johnfg_> greycat: Do you have a php.ini file where you can read what it says or would you like me to paste it?
2112[19:37:25] <greycat> Are you DENSE? Find your god damned web server log files. Which web server is it? Apache2? Nginx?
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2119[19:38:46] <johnfg_> greycat: I may be dense (not sure about DENSE), but I've mentioned here a couple of times that nothing is being written to the apache2 log files, either error or access, that shows the problem.
2120[19:38:57] <johnfg_> replaced-url
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2122[19:39:33] <hypn0> what are you try to do?
2123[19:39:39] <greycat> johnfg_: Start at the beginning. What is the problem you are experiencing? How do you produce the problem? What do you know so far about it?
2124[19:40:10] <johnfg_> greycat: I recently (with some help from you) upgraded from jessie->stretch.
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2127[19:41:04] <johnfg_> All had worked fine on my webserver, apache2, with serving up my website. After the upgrade, however, no pages in php are displaying properly, neither does phpmyadmin run.
2128[19:41:22] <greycat> What do you get when you try to view the page?
2129[19:41:33] <johnfg_> greycat: A blank screen.
2130[19:42:06] <greycat> Very hard to believe you'd get that and NOT have anything in the web server's logs.
2131[19:42:29] <greycat> What do you get in access.log for the request?
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2134[19:43:38] <johnfg_> Just checked, and nothing in the error.log.
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2148[19:48:06] <johnfg_> greycat: replaced-url
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2150[19:48:39] <greycat> why the fuck is the IP address deleted? isn't the IP address 127.0.0.1? You said the browser and web server were on the same computer.
2151[19:49:12] <greycat> and the result code was 304... isn't that a redirect or something? lemme look that up...
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2153[19:49:33] <greycat> "HTTP Status Code 304: A conditional GET or HEAD request has been received and would have resulted in a 200 OK response if it were not for the fact that the condition evaluated to false."
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2157[19:50:04] <johnfg_> I deleted it, wasn't sure about showing the static ip of the server.
2158[19:50:38] <johnfg_> greycat: Do keep in mind...all worked fine until the upgrade to stretch.
2159[19:51:00] <greycat> so you're talking to the web server on localhost but you're doing it through a hostname that you won't reveal to us which has an IP address that you won't reveal to us and so it goes through the ethernet interface...
2160[19:51:05] <johnfg_> So I'm almost positive it's not anything with the pages of code themselves.
2161[19:51:39] <johnfg_> The web page is replaced-url
2162[19:52:21] <greycat> replaced-url
2163[19:52:23] <tw> php isn't being called to evaluate the script.
2164[19:52:39] <greycat> See how easy that is now that we have ONE DETAIL
2165[19:53:46] <greycat> So, the question is why Apache isn't calling PHP. Now you investigate the Apache configs, and make sure the Apache-PHP packages are installed, *and* that the PHP module is enabled in Apache.
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2176[19:57:40] <johnfg_> yes, it's installed and enabled, afaik.
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2200[20:09:29] <johnfg_> Yes, things are installed and enabled. Any ideas for what to try next?
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2206[20:13:28] <johnfg_> brb, gonna reboot.
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2268[20:35:55] <fasdfd> How to I read mail? "Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. You have new mail."
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2272[20:36:23] <annadane> ls /var/mail and it's either under root or your user
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2276[20:36:36] <annadane> read it with less, aka less /var/mail/fasdfd or less /var/mail/root
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2278[20:36:45] <greycat> usually you install a mail reading program like mutt
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2280[20:37:05] <greycat> you *can* use less or cat or other file level programs, but this gets really inconvenient quickly
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2285[20:38:04] <qman__> if you have a mail daemon installed, you probably also already have a mail program installed - try 'mail'
2286[20:38:25] <greycat> mail has a really old-school interface that most people will probably not enjoy
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2289[20:39:15] <qman__> I don't disagree, but it is probably already there, and would let you read the mail
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2291[20:39:28] <qman__> if you want to install another mail client, feel free
2292[20:39:46] <crawler> hi, how do i make "online accounts" to sync exchange calendar with gnome-calendar - stock debian 9 install
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2294[20:40:04] <crawler> tried to google around, didnt find anything useful
2295[20:40:10] <crawler> anybody have that working?
2296[20:40:33] <fasdfd> thanks, that's very helpful
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2298[20:41:05] <crawler> when i add exchange account i have that slider "calendar -> yes" but, nothing shows up in the calendar app
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2308[20:48:12] <armin> fwiw, if i ever see a coloured emoticon on a console tty without a graphical desktop, i'll quit my job and become a farmer.
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2322[20:54:48] <r3> you mean like a ☺
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2330[20:59:14] <r3> actually have been playing around with old-school ANSI colors and drawing via a serial connection, so it isn't unheard of, armin
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2334[20:59:59] <armin> r3: this is totally bollocks.
2335[21:00:16] <armin> r3: stop decommissioning my old hardware plz.
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2337[21:00:33] <r3> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2338[21:00:39] <tw> You can even get color in irc, but I think it's disabled here.
2339[21:00:40] <armin> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2340[21:00:43] <armin> ¯\_(ツ)___
2341[21:00:45] <armin> ___(ツ)_/¯
2342[21:00:53] <r3> ok, that'll do.
2343[21:01:01] <armin> tw: it at least is disabled in my client, yeah.
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2346[21:01:34] <annadane> pretty much my same expression whenever i'm in #debian
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2348[21:01:55] <RoyK> replaced-url
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2351[21:02:02] <armin> i mean when i was your age we typed :) to indicate that we find something funny. it worked on the VT100, on the AS/400, on the old HP/UX terminals at the uni of my father, and even on the 80x25 bitchx i used to irc on my goddamn toilet computer.
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2355[21:02:47] <greycat> "haha" also works on all those things
2356[21:02:57] <r3> whose age? I'm old.
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2360[21:03:09] <RoyK> iirc HP/UX used vt100, AS/400 was TN5250
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2362[21:03:17] <armin> greycat: true, but it's one keypress more, even considering you have to use the shift key.
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2364[21:03:24] <r3> when I was a kid we had a computer, but we had to craft the 1's and 0's out of individual rocks.
2365[21:03:24] <greycat> HP-UX's console is not vt100 compatible
2366[21:03:31] <armin> true.
2367[21:03:32] <RoyK> oh - it isn't?
2368[21:03:38] <arsaraiva> Hello friends, I have a problem, because the server I am using is Debian 9.4 and by default it only has gcc-4.9 and 6. But my application only runs exclusively with gcc-4.8. I need help to manually install gcc-4.8 on my / home, as a user, I do not have sudo privileges, nor permission to use other sources. I already downloaded gcc-4.8.0.tar.gz, then ./configure --prefix = "/ home / andre / gcc" and in make it gives the following erro
2369[21:03:38] <greycat> and it has xterm, but it also has hpterm, and hpterm is not vt100 compatible either
2370[21:03:46] <RoyK> A frend of mine named it HPsUX ;)
2371[21:03:47] <armin> also true.
2372[21:03:56] <armin> RoyK: quite fitting name.
2373[21:04:05] <arsaraiva> Hello friends, I have a problem, because the server I am using is Debian 9.4 and by default it only has gcc-4.9 and 6. But my application only runs exclusively with gcc-4.8. I need help to manually install gcc-4.8 on my / home, as a user, I do not have sudo privileges, nor permission to use other sources.
2374[21:04:13] <arsaraiva> I already downloaded gcc-4.8.0.tar.gz, then ./configure --prefix = "/ home / andre / gcc" and in make it gives the following error:
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2377[21:04:24] <arsaraiva> In file included from ../.././gcc/cp/except.c:1005:0: cfns.gperf: In function 'const char * libc_name_p (const char *, unsigned int)': cfns.gperf: 101: 1: error: 'const char * libc_name_p (const char *, unsigned int)' redeclared inline with 'gnu_inline' attribute cfns.gperf: 26: 14: note: 'const char * libc_name_p (const char *, unsigned int)' previously declared here
2378[21:04:34] <armin> still, hp-ux is how i got into the whole thing. it was WAY MORE STABLE than the suse/debian/redhat options i had when connecting to a remote X server, so i just kept it.
2379[21:04:42] <arsaraiva> cfns.gperf: At global scope: cfns.gperf: 26: 14: warning: inline function 'const char * libc_name_p (const char *, unsigned int)' used but never defined Makefile: 1058: recipe for target 'cp / except.o' failed make [3]: *** [cp / except.o] Error 1 make [3]: Leaving directory '/home/andresaraiva/gcc/gcc-4.8.0/host-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/gcc'
2380[21:04:46] <greycat> arsaraiva: building GCC is not a simple ./configure; make like most other things. You have to actually read the instructions.
2381[21:04:52] <arsaraiva> Makefile: 4162: recipe for target 'all-stage1-gcc' failed make [2]: *** [all-stage1-gcc] Error 2 make [2]: Leaving directory '/home/andresaraiva/gcc/gcc-4.8.0' Makefile: 23575: recipe for target 'stage1-bubble' failed make [1]: *** [stage1-bubble] Error 2 make [1]: Leaving directory '/home/andresaraiva/gcc/gcc-4.8.0' Makefile: 891: recipe for target 'all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2
2382[21:05:06] <armin> like, seriously, the old unices were MUCH more stable than what i experience today.
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2386[21:05:35] <jelly> that's also a function of hw platform stability
2387[21:05:45] <psychicist__> which old ones? HP-UX, AIX and Solaris? IRIX and Tru64?
2388[21:05:56] <armin> especially hp-ux and solaris.
2389[21:06:01] <RoyK> armin: I remember I was a consultant and the customer wanted a linux machine as a client with HP openview, dual screen, this was around 2001, and x11 xenerama paniced when the host was big endian…
2390[21:06:06] <crash_> OpenVMS :)
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2392[21:06:28] * RoyK mutters something about #debian-offtopic
2393[21:06:35] <arsaraiva> greycat: Following the instructions is giving error
2394[21:06:45] <psychicist__> Solaris is the one that will survive as Illumos and Co.
2395[21:06:46] <armin> i used to have a sparcstation20 on my toilet (downstairs, didn't even have a real window, wasn't heated, was full of spiders - i always had to join my ex-gf when going to the toilet at night because fear, but there was a sparcstation 20 and you could use it while doing a s**t.
2396[21:06:50] <arsaraiva> greycat: replaced-url
2397[21:07:04] <armin> oh, i didn't close the bracket.
2398[21:07:12] <RoyK> armin: try #debian-offtopic ;)
2399[21:07:22] <greycat> 15:04 arsaraiva> I already downloaded gcc-4.8.0.tar.gz, then ./configure --prefix = "/ home / andre / gcc"
2400[21:07:30] <greycat> There's your first error already.
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2402[21:07:51] <armin> RoyK: my apologies, it's friday night and i can assure you that i'm getting drunk (or already am). thanks for the friendly smiley after pointing me there. <3
2403[21:08:10] <greycat> you specify a directory WITHOUT random whitespace in it. --prefix="$HOME/gcc"
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2406[21:08:44] <jelly> assuming those spaces are not actually there, putting the source code inside the destination prefix probably isn't the greatest idea either
2407[21:08:49] <RoyK> armin: no problem :)
2408[21:09:50] <jelly> > [...] make [1]: Leaving directory '/home/andresaraiva/gcc/gcc-4.8.0' [...]
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2410[21:10:09] <greycat> oh yeah, that would be a huge problem
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2412[21:10:54] <greycat> For modern GCC, you really need (1) a source directory where you extract everything; (2) a build directory, where you run the ./configure and make commands; (3) an installation directory (prefix); and NONE of these can be the same
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2415[21:11:29] <greycat> well, it wouldn't be ./configure of course
2416[21:11:36] <greycat> it would be like ../gcc-foo/configure
2417[21:12:42] <arsaraiva> greycat: in fact there are no such spaces, typing failure
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2419[21:13:58] <jelly> also, 4.8.0 will have more bugs than whatever was the last 4.8.x
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2425[21:16:25] <jelly> I think I'd rather try fakechroot or user-mode-linux, and debootstrap jessie or whatever old release that has gcc-4.8, instead of trying to build it from source (like it was 1996)
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2427[21:16:50] <arsaraiva> actually did so tar xzf gcc-4.6.2.tar.gz cd gcc-4.6.2 ./contrib/download_prerequisites cd .. mkdir objdir cd objdir $PWD/../gcc-4.6.2/configure --prefix=$HOME/GCC-4.6.2 --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,go make make install
2428[21:16:51] <jelly> or better yet, fix your app
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2431[21:17:33] <jelly> arsaraiva, did you not write > But my application only runs exclusively with gcc-4.8
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2433[21:18:46] <greycat> he keeps changing all the details at random
2434[21:18:56] <jelly> arsaraiva, did you mean "builds exclusively with gcc-4.8" or really "runs exclusively", ie. you already have a binary?
2435[21:19:07] <greycat> first it was /home/andresaraiva/gcc/gcc-4.8.0 and now it's --prefix=$HOME/GCC-4.6.2
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2438[21:20:09] <arsaraiva> jelly: Yes, I use the TOSSIM simulator.
2439[21:20:30] <fasdfd> what's the good practice way to run a script at startup/restart of the machine? this is a simple script to fix a bug in a web server which runs as a systemd service
2440[21:20:54] <greycat> you can put it in /etc/rc.local if it's a simple thing
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2442[21:21:19] <jelly> arsaraiva, that wasn't a yes/no question
2443[21:21:37] <arsaraiva> greycat: the second prefix is just the example (ctrl + V) kkk
2444[21:21:42] <greycat> if you want to be more correct/formal you could create a drop-in override for whichever service it is, in /etc/systemd/system/foo.service.d/*.conf
2445[21:22:00] <fasdfd> greycat, should rc.local itself be the script or a folder that contains it?
2446[21:22:11] <greycat> rc.local is a FILE.
2447[21:22:17] <greycat> it already exizts. you can add commands to it.
2448[21:23:01] <fasdfd> it doesn't, but I'll create it then /etc/rc.local: cannot open `/etc/rc.local' (No such file or directory)
2449[21:23:13] <greycat> Which version of Debian is this?
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2451[21:23:34] <fasdfd> stretch
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2454[21:23:40] <arsaraiva> jelly: TOSSIM uses a primitive language called NESC and this module only runs with gcc-4.8. I already have the binaries.
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2460[21:25:08] <greycat> Hmm. Does a fresh install of stretch not create /etc/rc.local? Jessie certainly did.
2461[21:25:49] <fasdfd> it seems it's deprecated? replaced-url
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2463[21:26:01] <jelly> zsh: no matches found: /etc/rc.*
2464[21:26:29] <greycat> Don't take random web sites as authorities.
2465[21:26:57] <greycat> Debian 9 has a service named rc-local.service which should read it if it exists, but it seems like a fresh install doesn't *create* the file any more. OK. Then create it yourself.
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2471[21:28:04] <greycat> The unit file is /lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service and as you can see, it tries to execute "/etc/rc.local start" so make sure you put +x permissions on it.
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2473[21:28:43] <greycat> Also it says ConditionFileIsExecutable so that probably also checks for the +x bits.
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2476[21:31:28] <fasdfd> chmod 755 is the recommended one right?
2477[21:31:34] <greycat> yes
2478[21:32:03] <greycat> This web site that says the rc-local.service doesn't exist is just plain wrong. I don't know why they think that.
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2482[21:34:36] <greycat> wow, dpkg's rc.local factoid is ... very, very old.
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2485[21:35:16] <greycat> I don't think any part of it can be salvaged. Needs to be totally rewritten.
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2491[21:37:45] <greycat> dpkg, no, rc.local is <reply>/etc/rc.local may be used to run simple commands at boot time. It exists by default in jessie or older; in stretch you need to create it. Don't forget the <shebang> and be sure to chmod 755 it. rc.local is considered a hack, a stopgap, or a temporary band-aid; see <systemd>
2492[21:37:46] <dpkg> greycat: okay
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2497[21:41:14] <arsaraiva> greycat: I tried make with the option of the 3 different prefixes. Made the same mistake.
2498[21:41:54] <greycat> I don't know how to help you. You are vague and your details keep changing. Start over and read the directions. Or ask in #gnu.
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2511[21:50:15] <arsaraiva> greycat: I'll try to be more specific then: I need to manually install gcc-4.8 in the / home / andre folder. Following the official tutorial is not working and the error is:
2512[21:50:45] <greycat> but your username isn't andre on this box unless THAT was a lie
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2514[21:51:04] <arsaraiva> greycat: In file included from /home/andresaraiva/objdir/../gcc-4.8.5/gcc/cp/except.c:1008:0: cfns.gperf: In function ‘const char* libc_name_p(const char*, unsigned int)’: cfns.gperf:101:1: error: ‘const char* libc_name_p(const char*, unsigned int)’ redeclared inline with ‘gnu_inline’ attribute cfns.gperf:26:14: note: ‘const char* libc_name_p(const char*, unsigned int)’ previously declared here cfns.gperf: At global
2515[21:51:13] <greycat> see, now it's /home/andresaraiva/
2516[21:51:22] <arsaraiva> greycat: cfns.gperf:26:14: warning: inline function ‘const char* libc_name_p(const char*, unsigned int)’ used but never defined Makefile:1059: recipe for target 'cp/except.o' failed make[3]: *** [cp/except.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/andresaraiva/objdir/gcc' Makefile:4162: recipe for target 'all-stage1-gcc' failed make[2]: *** [all-stage1-gcc] Error 2
2517[21:51:32] <greycat> None of those errors mean anything TO ME.
2518[21:51:34] <arsaraiva> greycat: make[2]: Leaving directory '/home/andresaraiva/objdir' Makefile:23565: recipe for target 'stage1-bubble' failed make[1]: *** [stage1-bubble] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/andresaraiva/objdir' Makefile:891: recipe for target 'all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2
2519[21:51:42] <greycat> Start over, read the directions, and if it doesn't work, ask in #gnu.
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2523[21:52:38] <greycat> Remember that details like "andre" vs. "andresaraiva" MATTER. Details like "/home/andre" vs. "/ home / andre" MATTER>
2524[21:52:44] <arsaraiva> I also did not find anything about these errors after searching
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2526[21:53:32] <arsaraiva> I already checked all this
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2529[21:54:08] <arsaraiva> greycat: cfns.gperf:101:1: error: ‘const char* libc_name_p(const char*, unsigned int)’ redeclared inline with ‘gnu_inline’ attribute
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2533[21:54:39] <arsaraiva> if I solve this error, the rest are alerts
2534[21:55:08] <greycat> This is not a Debian question. I don't know how to help you with internal gcc compilation errors.
2535[21:55:16] <greycat> Ask in #gnu or ##workingset or something.
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2539[21:59:19] <fasdfd> How would I make service nginx reload or restart be executed soon after startup? This fixes a bug in nginx (it's dns resolver is broken). is running rc.local containing wait x seconds; service nginx reload; the right way? because it fails every time. I'm also not sure if it's enough to reload it right after nginx starts or if waiting a bit is needed
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2543[22:00:00] <greycat> what's the bug number?
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2546[22:00:43] <fasdfd> I get these errors with the current setup: nginx.service is not active, cannot reload. rc-local.service: Control process exited, code=exited status=1 Failed to start /etc/rc.local Compatibility. rc-local.service: Unit entered failed state. rc-local.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
2547[22:00:55] <fasdfd> So.. 'exit-code'?
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2550[22:01:24] <fasdfd> oh, if you mean the nginx bug, I'm not sure if it's even acknowledged
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2552[22:01:43] <greycat> then why do you believe it's a bug in nginx rather than something unique to your computer?
2553[22:02:11] <greycat> (also, why do you want nginx to use DNS)
2554[22:02:26] <greycat> (also, what is the ACTUAL problem you are having?)
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2556[22:03:06] <fasdfd> because a reload fixes it every time and the bug magically disappears, the only nginx error is this: nginx: [warn] "ssl_stapling" ignored, host not found in OCSP responder "ocsp.int-x3.letsencrypt.org"
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2558[22:03:58] <fasdfd> this is needed for ocsp stapling to work, and I'm pretty sure nginx uses a user specified resolver to resolve the hostname of the ocsp server
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2561[22:05:07] <fasdfd> They also have another ocsp bug which wasn't fixed for a long time, that one only needs a connection to the website at every service restart and reload
2562[22:05:16] <greycat> so, why does the name resolution fail? does your network interface have "allow-hotplug" instead of "auto" and therefore things happen too early?
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2566[22:06:24] <greycat> If that's the case, change "allow-hotplug" to "auto" and it should fix a LOT of problems. The allow-hotplug default is designed for fucking laptops and tablets and other junk.
2567[22:06:39] <greycat> On a workstation or server you really want auto.
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2569[22:07:47] <fasdfd> cat /etc/network/interfaces: allow-hotplug enp3s0; iface enp3s0 inet dhcp
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2571[22:08:09] <slidinghorn> I installed debian as a minimal install and built from there...do I need to specifcally add gtk? There are no buttons, checkboxes, etc when browsing the web, etc. I assume that's what is missing...
2572[22:08:12] <greycat> See if that change is enough. It could be something else, but it could just be that.
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2574[22:09:04] <greycat> slidinghorn: installing the firefox-esr or chromium package should have brought in whatever libgtk (etc.) libs are required
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2576[22:09:54] <slidinghorn> hmm...I wonder what the deal is then. Makes forms etc very difficult to fill / understand
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2580[22:10:47] <greycat> someone a week or three ago had an issue where menus wouldn't appear because their WM was misconfigured and was hiding the borderless slave menu windows behind the main window, but this sounds different
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2586[22:15:25] <slidinghorn> menus seem to display just fine
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2595[22:18:55] <fasdfd> greycat, do I just nano /etc/network/interfaces and change allow-hotplug to auto?
2596[22:19:16] <greycat> yes, that should work.
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2598[22:19:34] <greycat> I'm not 100% sure this will solve your problem but it's what I would do.
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2603[22:21:48] <fasdfd> seems to work
2604[22:21:51] <fasdfd> will do some tests
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2642[22:46:38] <memo1> hi community. I have a question. Im really interested in security. Im debian user, but until today i wasnt concern of my system integrity. Please recommend a good book or tutorial to hardener my precious debian system. Thank you!.
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2644[22:47:13] <greycat> Run stable, make sure the security.debian.org source is activated, and update/upgrade on a regular basis.
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2647[22:48:37] <fasdfd> there was a bit about hardening in the debian manual I think
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2650[22:49:36] <greycat> After that, things get more vague and generic. Don't run services you don't need. Don't use weak passwords. Don't allow remote password auth at all, maybe. Don't break the permissions, or do any other silly things.
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2652[22:50:36] <furrymcgee> memo1: debian has a harden-doc package
2653[22:50:47] <memo1> greycat: thank you
2654[22:50:56] <memo1> furrymcgee: can you give the link please
2655[22:50:56] <Meteor0ID> hi, me, trying to learn how to set up a webserver, followed a tutorial on this site: replaced-url
2656[22:50:56] <Meteor0ID> belong in /home/username due to permission issues. How could I fix the issues I am having? Do i have to move the webroot en vertualenv over to /svr/ somehow?
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2658[22:51:35] <greycat> You're just learning how to set up your first web server, and you started with a document that has "django" and "uwsgi" in the title?
2659[22:51:50] <Meteor0ID> yes, I like learning fast
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2661[22:52:20] <greycat> If that thing actually does put the document root in /home/username then I agree with the guys in #nginx.
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2663[22:52:29] <Meteor0ID> i understand most of what I did and it works (expect this issue) so it wasnt all that hard
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2665[22:52:53] <Meteor0ID> ok, so, what might silly i do to set things right?
2666[22:53:12] <Meteor0ID> i would have to move virtualenv and any paths to python
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2671[22:55:32] <furrymcgee> memo1: packages.debian.org
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2673[22:56:37] <greycat> Meteor0ID: you're way outside the scope of Debian at this point
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2677[22:56:42] <memo1> furrymcgee: sry, i get it with apt-get harden-doc?, how i read it?
2678[22:56:44] <greycat> of #debian I mean
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2685[22:57:14] <greycat> Settiing up UWSGI to use programs that are only installed in a virtualenv is quite specialized and you probably need a specialist channel.
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2687[22:57:33] <nobicantinstalla> hello. I need help from you i cant install anything and i just install debian...
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2689[22:57:44] <nobicantinstalla> how to fix repositories?
2690[22:58:00] <greycat> !stretch sources.list
2691[22:58:00] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
2692[22:58:08] <Meteor0ID> ture, the reason i gave it a shot here was because parth of the dependencies is sourcing bash
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2694[22:58:30] <greycat> bash should not be involved in this sequence at all
2695[22:58:38] <nkuttler> Meteor0ID: ask in #django
2696[22:58:49] <greycat> *at most* there might be a /bin/sh script somewhere but even that's questionable
2697[22:59:25] <nobicantinstalla> not owrk
2698[22:59:26] <furrymcgee> memo1: see /usr/share/doc-base/securing-debian-howto
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2701[22:59:35] <Aebian> I have a folder that is owned by a user and the group games. I did for testing a chmod 770 on that folder. But my user with secondary group games can't access the folder. The second bit is for groups and the ladt one (0) is for everyone I thought. Did I forgot something?
2702[22:59:53] <nobicantinstalla> The repository replaced-url
2703[23:00:06] <greycat> Aebian: use "id" (not "id you", just "id") to see your user's shell's CURRENT list of groups
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2706[23:00:29] <greycat> Aebian: use "ls -ld /the/directory" to see the actual permissions on the directory, just in case
2707[23:00:49] <Aebian> ah yes thanks greycat my shell is not updated, thats the cause
2708[23:00:57] <nobicantinstalla> !stretch sources.list
2709[23:00:58] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
2710[23:01:05] <greycat> you must log out and back in to get updated permissions
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2712[23:01:21] <Aebian> I think I need to relaunch my tmux shell then
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2714[23:01:25] <Aebian> ok thanks
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2717[23:02:25] <nobicantinstalla> still not work
2718[23:02:35] <greycat> !doesn'twork
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2720[23:02:39] <greycat> !doesn't work
2721[23:02:39] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>.
2722[23:02:47] <nobicantinstalla> greycat: same problem
2723[23:02:56] <greycat> and the problem is...?
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2725[23:03:15] <nobicantinstalla> updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default
2726[23:03:35] <greycat> that doesn't sound like any apt-get error message I've ever seen
2727[23:05:02] <nobicantinstalla> the repository 'replaced-url
2728[23:05:03] <nobicantinstalla> its just in vm so i dont want to type all
2729[23:05:19] <annadane> !termbin
2730[23:05:19] <dpkg> i heard termbin is you can paste to termbin.com from terminal via: cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 9999
2731[23:05:32] <Aebian> greycat: I just exited the tmux window and the shell said [exiting], I also tried to disconnect from the server, still when running the id command I only have the sudoers group and my own group (aebian:aebian)
2732[23:05:40] <annadane> you probably have a duplicated sources.list entry
2733[23:06:01] <nobicantinstalla> replaced-url
2734[23:06:01] <greycat> Aebian: do you get different results for "id yourname" vs. "id"?
2735[23:06:13] <nobicantinstalla> it said apt does not have a stable CLI interface.
2736[23:06:22] <greycat> nobicantinstalla: that's harmless
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2738[23:06:35] <nobicantinstalla> well
2739[23:06:38] <nobicantinstalla> now i am login as root..
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2741[23:06:44] <nobicantinstalla> so id root or id username?
2742[23:06:55] <greycat> nobicantinstalla: you are not Aebian
2743[23:07:09] <Aebian> yep replaced-url
2744[23:07:13] <nobicantinstalla> Aebian?
2745[23:07:18] <Aebian> ?
2746[23:07:23] <greycat> there are other people here besides you
2747[23:07:26] <nobicantinstalla> oh
2748[23:07:36] <nobicantinstalla> cause you talked with me and then you talked with someone else..
2749[23:07:43] <Aebian> thats irc
2750[23:08:04] <greycat> Aebian: well, you will need to undergo an actual login (session authentication, etc.) to get the new group memberships in your shell
2751[23:08:09] <nobicantinstalla> how did you do that in your terminal: aebian at ...
2752[23:08:29] <Aebian> nobicantinstalla: zshell with oh-my-zsh
2753[23:08:53] * annadane avoids github at all costs
2754[23:09:06] <greycat> Aebian: one thing you can try is "exec su - aebian" which should replace that one shell with a new login shell
2755[23:09:07] <MACscr> i love github
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2757[23:09:32] <nobicantinstalla> github is not best in showing commits
2758[23:09:51] <Aebian> greycat: thanks that worked
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2760[23:10:52] <nobicantinstalla> found this website replaced-url
2761[23:11:26] <greycat> There is a lot of wrong or incomplete information on the Internet.
2762[23:11:43] <nobicantinstalla> so annoying now to install debian again
2763[23:11:47] <MACscr> hmm, seems like nginx is packaged in so many different ways. sometimes it has sites-* directories and sometimes it has just conf.d. annoying
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2766[23:12:51] <nobicantinstalla> that bug is so annoying
2767[23:13:30] <ksk> MACscr: debian has the style of sites-*, if you choose to get non-debian configs there is nothing we can do ;)
2768[23:13:42] <slidinghorn> nobicantinstalla to be fair, the lack of distinguishig between Debian & Ubuntu there should have been a tip off that it wouldn't be terribly helpful
2769[23:13:58] <MACscr> ksk "get non-debian configs"?
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2771[23:14:47] <MACscr> i am using the nginx.org repo if thats what you are meaning
2772[23:14:50] <ksk> MACscr: if you apt-get install nginx there is the sites-* hierachy available and a corresponding config.
2773[23:14:50] <MACscr> deb replaced-url
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2775[23:15:36] <nobicantinstalla> what does nginx mean?
2776[23:15:42] <greycat> ,info nvinx
2777[23:15:43] <judd> No package named 'nvinx' was found in stretch/amd64.
2778[23:15:45] <greycat> ,info nginx
2779[23:15:46] <judd> Package nginx (httpd, optional) in stretch/amd64: small, powerful, scalable web/proxy server. Version: 1.10.3-1+deb9u1; Size: 79.6k; Installed: 91k; Homepage: replaced-url
2780[23:15:47] <nobicantinstalla> what strech
2781[23:15:56] <slidinghorn> MACscr is there any reason you're not using the nginx version in the repositories?
2782[23:16:01] <nobicantinstalla> after strech*: 'stretch nginx'
2783[23:16:02] <greycat> !stretch
2784[23:16:03] <dpkg> Stretch is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 9, released 2017-06-17. "Stretch" is the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3, see replaced-url
2785[23:16:08] <nobicantinstalla> !stretch
2786[23:16:14] <nobicantinstalla> !stretch
2787[23:16:15] <dpkg> Stretch is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 9, released 2017-06-17. "Stretch" is the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3, see replaced-url
2788[23:16:50] <nobicantinstalla> !release notes
2789[23:16:51] <dpkg> The release notes for Debian 9 "Stretch" are at replaced-url
2790[23:16:55] <nobicantinstalla> !help
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2792[23:17:00] <annadane> please stop spamming the channel
2793[23:17:03] <annadane> you can message the bot
2794[23:17:12] <nobicantinstalla> oh righttttt
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2796[23:17:41] <nobicantinstalla> lol
2797[23:17:42] <nobicantinstalla> [00:16] <dpkg> I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at replaced-url
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2799[23:18:07] <nobicantinstalla> dpkg u little bastard
2800[23:18:08] <dpkg> nobicantinstalla: I give up, what is it?
2801[23:18:14] <annadane> enough. please.
2802[23:18:39] <nobicantinstalla> okok
2803[23:19:00] <nobicantinstalla> i need help if someone can help me
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2806[23:20:39] <ompaul> nobicantinstalla: get an install disk who knows what went on before this: strech- wow
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2811[23:21:27] <annadane> nobicantinstalla, "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
2812[23:21:31] <ompaul> nobicantinstalla: you might note that is not stretch, so the thing is this, how did it get like that ...
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2814[23:22:02] <ompaul> annadane: there is a typo in the earlier sources.list misspelling of stretch
2815[23:22:06] <annadane> i have to leave very soon so i probably won't be able to help, but i guess you have an incorrect sources list
2816[23:22:08] <annadane> ah.
2817[23:22:29] <nobicantinstalla> annadane: plz replaced-url
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2819[23:22:38] <nobicantinstalla> yes i do have
2820[23:22:42] <nobicantinstalla> its because of instllation :<
2821[23:22:50] <annadane> !stretch sources.list
2822[23:22:50] <dpkg> A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb replaced-url
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2824[23:23:15] <ompaul> nobicantinstalla: the sources.list is not spelling stretch correctly you are missing a letter
2825[23:23:21] <nobicantinstalla> annadane: i tried it that's what greycat mentioned
2826[23:23:24] <slidinghorn> nobicantinstalla you have "stretch" spelled wrong in your first deb line
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2830[23:23:37] <annadane> you didn't try it because then it would work, you have to apt update after changing it
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2832[23:24:10] <ompaul> nobicantinstalla: you had a deb for winehq installed - who knows what debian packages that messed with - good luck with that
2833[23:24:22] <nobicantinstalla> ompaul: you are hero
2834[23:24:39] <ompaul> nobicantinstalla: no, I most certainly am not.
2835[23:25:16] <ompaul> !next
2836[23:25:17] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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2838[23:25:34] <nobicantinstalla> thanks :D
2839[23:25:39] <nobicantinstalla> now i can install wine
2840[23:25:43] <nobicantinstalla> FINALLLLLY
2841[23:25:54] <slidinghorn> ...oh god
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2843[23:26:11] <nobicantinstalla> slidinghorn: god doesn't exist!
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2845[23:26:21] <annadane> i guarantee you you're not going to install wine properly
2846[23:26:29] <annadane> sorry to be mean
2847[23:26:33] <nobicantinstalla> bla bla.. go go
2848[23:26:37] <nobicantinstalla> you said you had to leave
2849[23:26:47] <nobicantinstalla> i will install wine and it will work
2850[23:26:51] <ompaul> MACscr: that isn't the debian package for nginx, therefore we wouldn't be familiar with all the configs as done by nginx, similar but not the same. So therefore it most likely is a really bad idea to ask here.
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2852[23:28:40] <ompaul> nobicantinstalla: if you install it from winehq please ask them how it works.
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2854[23:28:53] <nobicantinstalla> i installed it in kali before
2855[23:29:02] <ompaul> kali != debian
2856[23:29:04] <Tenkawa> kali != debian
2857[23:29:12] <Tenkawa> ompaul: heheheh
2858[23:29:13] <ompaul> if it did then it would be called debian ..
2859[23:29:15] <nobicantinstalla> LOL
2860[23:29:20] <nobicantinstalla> kali is based on debian
2861[23:29:28] <Tenkawa> nobicantinstalla: irrelevant
2862[23:29:32] <ompaul> !basedondebian
2863[23:29:37] <nobicantinstalla> !basedondebian
2864[23:29:50] * ompaul glares at the bot
2865[23:29:56] <nobicantinstalla> dpkg is the bot
2866[23:29:57] <dpkg> nobicantinstalla: I wish you would RTFM.
2867[23:30:06] <ompaul> !based on debian
2868[23:30:07] <dpkg> Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare replaced-url
2869[23:30:31] <nobicantinstalla> !how did you created
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2871[23:31:11] <ompaul> nobicantinstalla: leave the bot alone, this isn't a playground, funnily enough
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2873[23:31:30] <nobicantinstalla> anyone want to see wine will work for me?
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2876[23:32:36] <nobicantinstalla> oh shit
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2880[23:36:04] <nobicantinstalla> thanks people im in #winehq! HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND!
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2886[23:40:26] <sillyslux> i have downloaded a package with apt-get source, extracted the package.orig.tar.xz, made changes and now i want to build a new custom package. how would i do that and do i need to check if patches from package.debian.tar.xy still work?
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2907[23:54:23] <furrymcgee> sillyslux: apt source hello && cd hello-2.10 && debuild -uc -us
2908[23:55:25] <sillyslux> if i make changes to the source, do i have to recreate the tar ball?
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2911[23:58:40] <furrymcgee> no
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