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3[00:00:48] <oo_miguel> I plan to install debian9 to a virtual
box vdi image and later use it as a template for multiple virtual
boxes. however I will need to change the hostname provided during
the installation. Is it just a matter of adjusting /etc/hostname? or
will i have to change other settings too? network configuraiton is
provided via dhcp
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5[00:01:13] <dpyro> when i get the "oh no something has
gone wrong" screen, is that a kernel panic?
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8[00:01:42] <mtn> dpyro, no, it is a gnome video driver
problem ;)
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9[00:01:56] <oo_miguel> lol
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16[00:03:29] <dpyro> where would the log files for that hiding?
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17[00:04:15] <mtn> dpyro, what is your video card and driver?
you need acceleration for gnome3 to be happy
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20[00:05:39] <jelly> oo_miguel, no, there's more.
/etc/{hosts,hostname,mailname}, /etc/postfix/main.cf if you use
postfix; if your systems are on different networks, you may also
need to allow ssh or other tcp_wrapper access from different
sources, so /etc/hosts.allow, different dns recursors available?
/etc/resolv.conf
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24[00:08:57] <oo_miguel> jelly: ok, thank you very much
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30[00:18:29] <jelly> that list is not exhaustive
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32[00:18:49] <dpyro> mtn: i did apt-get purge nouveau and i
think that killed the 3d acceleration libs
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34[00:19:06] <dpyro> i'm using the integrated intel
graphics for my displayout
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35[00:19:32] <mtn> dpyro, read the appropriate debian wiki for
your video card/s
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36[00:19:54] <oo_miguel> jelly: I will start with it, and come
back here if I can not fix upcoming issues, thanks
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39[00:21:24] <dpyro> mtn: i did but i am not successful so far
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40[00:21:57] <dpyro> nvidia-driver or even just dkms results in
"oh no!"
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45[00:23:11] <dpyro> even if i remove the nvidia hardware
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75[00:41:32] <jellycode2> Hi, I'm trying to find a way to
override options in a generated dnsmasq.conf without manually
changing those options.
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76[00:43:11] <jellycode2> Tomato firmware uses a GUI to
configure DNSMASQ. The GUI of course overrides any manual
configuration you might do. My problem is that need DHCP to run on
interface br0, but not to hand out IP addresses, just to hand out
additional DHCP options.
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78[00:45:29] <jmcnaught> jellycode2: you could try openwrt
instead of tomato, but this isn't really a Debian support issue
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83[00:47:36] <jellycode2> Thanks! Actually, i just found an
option "Ignore DHCP requests from unknown devices". So ,
now I realize, i can give it a scope which is required by the UI,
and add the custom dnsmasq options to ignore hosts based on a number
of criteria.
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84[00:47:56] <dpyro> if its a router thing the configuration
for that sort of thing is usually stored in the nvrram
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85[00:48:05] <dpyro> *nvram
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86[00:48:28] <dpyro> which overrides any options in text files
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87[00:48:55] <jellycode2> Right, when trying to fight with a
GUI configuration mechanism, there's always the chance someone
will make a change on the page, and when they save, your manual
changes are overwritten.
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89[00:49:05] <jellycode2> Tomato is nice in that it gives you a
section for adding custom options.
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90[00:49:27] <jellycode2> However, i could not see a way (until
just now) to get my desired effect.
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118[01:04:46] <oo_miguel> hmmm I get the same /etc/machine-id
generated inside two virtualboxes. what can I do about it?
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120[01:05:41] <oo_miguel> i run systemd-machine-id-setup but
exactly the same id is generated on both debians
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126[01:07:44] <dpyro> maybe it comes from the detected hardware?
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128[01:08:06] <oo_miguel> i assigend different mac addresses to
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131[01:08:14] <oo_miguel> but the rest of the hardware is indeed
identical
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147[01:14:15] <afidegnum> hi, is there a way to automatically
generate exim4 settings for outlook and thunderbird?
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173[01:28:55] <abrotman> afidegnum: generate? in what way? what
would be the output?
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174[01:29:46] <afidegnum> ok, i m having problem
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176[01:29:50] <afidegnum> i can't send email from exim
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177[01:30:11] <afidegnum> from teh error logs it shows the mails
have been sucessfully sent but the recepients doesn't get them
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179[01:31:01] <jim> hi... what's the status of virtualbox?
is it packaged for debian?
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182[01:32:19] <missmbob> !virtualbox
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183[01:32:19] <dpkg> Oracle VM VirtualBox is an almost free
software virtual machine solution. To install, see
replaced-url
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184[01:32:25] <missmbob> see the wiki
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186[01:33:28] <afidegnum> jim: yes
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188[01:34:03] <abrotman> afidegnum: show us the log, use
paste.debian.net
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190[01:34:54] <afidegnum>
replaced-url
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191[01:35:35] <abrotman> and what do the logs say on the other
side?
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192[01:36:00] <abrotman> or that is your server?
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196[01:36:22] <abrotman> this "newgracefoundgh.org" is
your exim system?
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197[01:36:35] <afidegnum> yes
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200[01:37:03] <afidegnum> i just added this domain name to have
it's own email account on the server
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201[01:37:14] <abrotman> afidegnum: okay, and what log is that
from? mail.log ?
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202[01:37:18] <afidegnum> other domains could also have some
mail accoutn too
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204[01:37:39] <afidegnum> /var/log/exim4/mainlog
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205[01:38:02] <abrotman> what's in /var/log/mail.log?
anything?
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210[01:40:34] <afidegnum> abrotman: this is what i have on the
mail.log
replaced-url
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211[01:40:47] <jim> missmbob, afidegnum, thanks, I'm
checking it out now
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213[01:41:21] <abrotman> afidegnum: where on the filesystem did
you look for the mail?
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214[01:41:32] <afidegnum> /var/vmail
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217[01:42:07] <abrotman> have you checked other locations
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218[01:42:08] <abrotman> ?
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222[01:43:11] <afidegnum> yes
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224[01:43:43] <afidegnum> that's the only account created
in that folder
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225[01:43:55] <abrotman> But it has no mail
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226[01:44:12] <abrotman> I meant, have you looked in
/var/spool/mail/ or in /home/
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228[01:44:48] <afidegnum> /var/mail contain an ssh email testing
accoutn from postmaster
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229[01:44:55] <afidegnum> but inside /var/vmail
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230[01:44:59] <afidegnum> i have newgracefound
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231[01:45:06] <afidegnum> let me check on var/spool
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233[01:47:45] <afidegnum> abrotman: inside spool i have symlink
of mail, and exim4
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240[01:54:31] <dirac1> Guys the systemd-resolved issue has been
fixed?
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243[01:55:20] <dvs> dirac1, no, systemd is still part of the
installation. ;-)
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245[01:55:37] <dondelelcaro> dirac1:
replaced-url
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246[01:56:06] <dirac1> Oh i'm on sid, so ok.
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248[01:56:17] <dondelelcaro> dirac1: and
replaced-url
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249[01:56:18] <judd> Bug
replaced-url
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252[01:57:39] <dirac1> Thanks.
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257[01:58:31] <dondelelcaro> dirac1: np; I imagine there will be
a DSA for it in jessie in the near future
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258[01:58:45] <dondelelcaro> (but since it's not enabled by
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259[01:59:16] <dirac1> I have it enabled by default on a vps i
bough recently that's why i was concerned.
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276[02:12:18] <JordiGH> Huh, got a changelog warning about
jbig2dec changing license to AGPL.
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277[02:12:35] <JordiGH> How odd, why are people so afraid of the
AGPL that they think they need to warn about it?
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278[02:12:50] <JordiGH> DFSG is DFSG, who cares how DFSG it is?
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284[02:20:00] <jmcnaught> JordiGH: probably because in addition
to the regular GPL provisions governing distributing copies, AGPL
has provisions for if you use it as a web accessible service. So
this is a chance for people using it to be notified of a change, in
case they are not in compliance by having their whole web service
open source.
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286[02:21:24] <JordiGH> Who the hell would be building a website
on some C or C++ framework that is linking to jbig2dec anyway?
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288[02:21:54] <JordiGH> does anyone actually use Wt?
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290[02:23:46] <JordiGH> Oh, look CppCMS. That's new. I
guess someone could be linking that to jbig2dec.
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292[02:25:46] <JordiGH> I mean, if merely using Mongo isn't
copyleftable...
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293[02:28:01] <jmcnaught> well presumably the package maintainer
thought it was worth notifying users of the change in
license…
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294[02:29:14] <JordiGH> The fear of the AGPL is greatly
exaggerated.
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298[02:31:01] <will_> so do any of you write entire webpages
from console using nano or vim?
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299[02:31:15] <JordiGH> Emacs!
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300[02:31:30] <JordiGH> Uh, and I guess I do? How else do you
write webpages if not by writing text?
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301[02:31:32] <will_> I just spent the last couple of minutes
holding backspace to delete an entire section of html code
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302[02:32:05] <will_> anyway to highlight or select what i want
gone so i dont go through that again?
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304[02:32:20] <will_> cant find anything relevant online lol
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305[02:32:22] <JordiGH> lol
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307[02:32:57] <missmbob> alt+a in nano i think
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308[02:33:14] <will_> god, i cant believe programmers suffered
like this back when there werent all these pretty ide's and
text editiors
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309[02:33:43] <will_> missmbob: not ALL the text. just a section
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310[02:33:56] <missmbob> right
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312[02:34:29] <jmcnaught> will_: you should use whatever text
editor you're most comfortable with on your PC, and transfer
the files to the server
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313[02:34:32] <missmbob> will_: just read.
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338[03:05:45] <coventry> Why would setting the frontend to
noninteractive using debconf-set-selections prevent interactive
dialogs during apt-get installs, while setting the
DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive does not (this is happening when
building off the ocaml/opam docker image.)
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340[03:07:24] <jmcnaught> coventry: DEBIAN_FRONTEND is an
environment variable that is set for a command or a shell, it is
usually used to override what is configured by debconf
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343[03:08:01] <jmcnaught> oh i think i misread
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344[03:08:19] <jmcnaught> you're using the environment
variable but debconf is still interactive?
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345[03:08:32] <coventry> jmcnaught, yes.
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346[03:08:39] <jmcnaught> can you show your Dockerfile?
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348[03:10:10] <coventry> jmcnaught:
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350[03:10:48] <coventry> Hmm... The ocaml Dockerfile uses
DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive as a prefix to the apt-get commands,
rather than setting it with ENV.
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351[03:11:17] <coventry>
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352[03:12:01] <jmcnaught> coventry: i don't use docker
often enough to know how it handles environment variables, but on a
bash shell unless you export a variable, you must declare it on the
command line like "DEBIAN_PRIORITY=medium dpkg-reconfigure
debconf"
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353[03:13:14] <coventry> OK, maybe this is a difference between
ubuntu and debian. In ubuntu, "ENV
DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive" sets the variable for all
subsequent shell commands. Don't know why it'd be
different in debian, though.
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355[03:13:34] <jmcnaught> sounds like a docker detail
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356[03:13:42] <coventry> Yep, thanks.
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357[03:14:46] <jmcnaught> althought your paste of your
dockerfile didn't have DEBIAN_FRONTEND in the ENV
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359[03:15:07] <jmcnaught> ^althought^although
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366[03:15:55] <csmall> Does anyone here happen to be running
unstable on a Dell XPS 15 9560?
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367[03:16:19] <Lyberta> how to set environment variables for the
root? for example when launching Synaptic via GUI
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369[03:16:48] <jmcnaught> Lyberta: what does root user have to
do with your GUI?
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370[03:17:14] <jmcnaught> csmall: try the unstable channel
#debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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372[03:18:21] <Lyberta> jmcnaught, it uses different settings of
FreeType
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374[03:18:27] <csmall> jmcnaught: Thanks. Will do.
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381[03:20:13] <jmcnaught> Lyberta: oh sorry i thought you meant
some synaptic touchpad stuff. synaptic gets executed by pkexec,
which is part of PolicyKit, which is where you could start looking.
Personally I wouldn't bother
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393[03:24:26] <Lyberta> jmcnaught, I guess I'll just use
etc/environment
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396[03:26:14] <glick> hi
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397[03:26:23] <glick> when i login i get a message that i have
mail
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398[03:26:30] <glick> how do i read this mail?
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400[03:26:39] <glick> also, i think i have mail in the spool
that keeps trying to send but keeps fialing
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402[03:27:02] <kaboutur> why does it fail?
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403[03:27:45] <glick> kaboutur: cause its gmail
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405[03:27:53] <glick> but its okay i just want to delete it i
think
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406[03:28:02] <jmcnaught> glick: did you configure on MTA, or
you you just have what gets installed by default?
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407[03:28:06] <kaboutur> glick: how large is the spoolfile in
/var/spool/mail/$username ?
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408[03:28:16] <glick> i have sendmail installed
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409[03:28:22] <jmcnaught> yikes
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410[03:28:54] <jmcnaught> because you already knew sendmail and
didn't want to learn a different MTA?
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411[03:29:11] <glick> yeah
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413[03:29:12] <mitlik> So, I thank that I am on Stretch but
I'm getting errors while running apt-get update concerning
apt-trasport-https. A quick search doesn't seem to yield
results other than my /etc/apt/sources.list referencing domain names
that aren't scheduled to obsolete for several months yet.
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414[03:29:29] <kaboutur> the shell gives a "You have mail
file" if the spoolfile exists, but some mailclients generate a
512 byte spoolfile which they consider "empty mailbox"..
Just the shell doesn't if > 0 bytes
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415[03:29:39] <kaboutur> not sure if this is your problem
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417[03:30:29] <mitlik> Am I missing something obvious in the
debian.org news?
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418[03:30:43] <kaboutur> oh man, i dislike stretch. so many
utilities (ifconfig) gone into deb packages, utils like
locate/updatedb missing. and a number of others I use often (about
10)... it really Sucks!
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419[03:31:11] <kaboutur> as if these antique utilities save any
diskspace in base
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420[03:31:13] <jmcnaught> ifconfig has been deprecated for
almost a decade
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421[03:31:45] <kaboutur> oh? for what? i reinstalled it and
noted some changes in the output
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422[03:31:45] <jmcnaught> mitlik: make a paste with the errors
you are getting. "/msg dpkg bat" for additional
troubleshooting information that you can provide
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423[03:32:27] <jmcnaught> kaboutur:
replaced-url
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424[03:32:30] <kaboutur> also some network devices that were
assigned ethX by udev on Jessie , now have these terrible long names
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425[03:32:32] <th0r> kaboutur: for what it is worth, you are not
alone in that opinion
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426[03:32:37] <kaboutur> jmcnaught: thanks!
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427[03:32:49] <kaboutur> th0r: thanks too :)) it's worth a
lot :))))
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429[03:33:24] <jmcnaught> glick: did you install the sendmail
package because you need the sendmail command to send mails?
I'm not sure why you're using sendmail (the MTA) if you
don't know where to check your inboxes)
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430[03:34:19] <kaboutur> eth1 became enp2s0 (reminds me of BSD)
and eth4 now is enx00aabbccddeeff , what a shit
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432[03:35:26] <jmcnaught> kaboutur: there are good reasons for
all of the changes. also this is not a rant channel.
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433[03:35:27] <mitlik> jmcnaught: Well, it's a new error
now. But I'm pretty sure I have screwed things up be trying to
fix it with inadequate experience.
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434[03:35:38] <Lyberta> is there a way to list all files in etc
that were manually edited?
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436[03:38:24] <jmcnaught> mitlik: you can use
replaced-url
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437[03:38:48] <kaboutur> jmcnaught: just reading about the 2009
plan for changing net-tools. indeed, there's a good reason for
everything. the preferred method assimilates ease of use with BSD
systems though
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439[03:39:20] <kaboutur> I guess all change meets some initial
resistance. like systemd. it's getting better by the week
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440[03:40:18] <jmcnaught> Lyberta: you can search for conffiles
with dpkg-query but you'd need a script or pipeline to show
only the ones that have been edited. You could install etckeeper
which is a helper for keeping /etc/ in a VCS repository (default is
Git)
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443[03:42:58] <mitlik> jmcnaught: Thanks for the response.
I'm not going to pursue it further since I screwed things up
attempting to `dpkg -i`.
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444[03:43:40] <mitlik> It's not a debian problem anymore,
it's a double-dumb-ass on my problem. ^_^
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475[04:08:35] <k_sze> There is something I'm wondering
about intel-microcode updates.
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476[04:11:01] <k_sze> The update *needs* to be re-applied every
time the computer boots, right? And I understand that it's
automatically applied at boot time. So what happens to virtualized
contexts? What if I run something like a virtualized CentOS under a
Debian host that has the intel-microcode update? Does the CentOS
automatically benefit from the microcode fix in the host?
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480[04:12:48] <l1Ll1Ll1L> I would imagine that once the
microcode is running, its running
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484[04:19:25] <jmcnaught> k_sze: that is how I understand it as
well. Related anecdote: the intel-microcode removes the TSX
instructions from Haswell CPUs. On my VMs if I select CPU type
Haswell in libvirt, qemu refuses to start because the instructions
are not available. I used to need to set it to 'Haswell
no-TSX' but now copying the host CPU type works
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486[04:20:04] <l1Ll1Ll1L> k_sze:
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488[04:20:14] <l1Ll1Ll1L> "As the virtual machine is
running on virtual CPUs there is no point updating the
microcode."
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490[04:21:38] <l1Ll1Ll1L> Also this discussion seems to imply
that managing microcode falls outside the scope of VMs
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491[04:21:38] <l1Ll1Ll1L>
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493[04:22:46] <k_sze> Is ee.
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494[04:22:49] <k_sze> *see
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499[04:28:56] <dirac1> o.o
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500[04:29:52] <l1Ll1Ll1L> 0.o
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501[04:31:25] <jmcnaught> k_sze: it's a good thing to
wonder about
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502[04:34:05] <ttm> hi
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527[04:47:11] <sonnie> hi there,I'm using buster/sid. Today
I find my network printers disappear from word processor, while
still in cups configuration. Why?
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547[05:01:13] <l1Ll1Ll1L> sonnie is the printer visible from
other applications?
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549[05:02:50] <l1Ll1Ll1L> sonnie this thread may help
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550[05:03:02] <l1Ll1Ll1L> also try restarting cups and/or
rebooting if you haven't
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557[05:06:00] <sonnie> l1Ll1Ll1L, yes I have rebooted and it
didn't help. let me check this webpage, thank you
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565[05:14:12] <sonnie> l1Ll1Ll1L, my two network printers and
PDF virtual printer all invisible from other apps. this is error
when I run 'system-config-printer' from KDE: ValueError:
Namespace GnomeKeyring not available
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567[05:14:49] <sonnie> but I have gnome-keyring installed
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572[05:17:19] <l1Ll1Ll1L> sonnie see if there is a package
called python2-gnomekeyring you can install
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573[05:17:24] <promet> on debian 9 stretch, network manager
lists two entries for my wired connection, "enp9s0" and
"ifupdown (enp9s0)", it seems like that shouldn't be.
Is this "normal" in debian though?
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575[05:17:40] <l1Ll1Ll1L> if so install it and tun
system-config-printer again
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576[05:17:44] <l1Ll1Ll1L> *run
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578[05:18:44] <sonnie> l1Ll1Ll1L there is no such package in my
source list, let me check..
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579[05:18:53] <promet> I am configured for static ip on
"enp9s0", but the "ifupdown (enp9s0)", is
un-configurable and ignores my manual entries
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580[05:19:23] <l1Ll1Ll1L> okay maybe python-gnomekeyring sonnie
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581[05:19:49] <promet> I think this may be screwing with my
openvpn setup
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583[05:20:12] <sonnie> I just installed this one and the error
is still the same
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584[05:20:26] <l1Ll1Ll1L> hmm.
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585[05:20:28] <sonnie> cups restarted
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588[05:22:01] <sonnie> File
"/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gi/__init__.py", line 118,
in require_version
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589[05:22:08] <l1Ll1Ll1L> this is for arch sonnie but here is
someone with the same issue, and a workaround in the comments
replaced-url
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591[05:22:26] <l1Ll1Ll1L> worth a shot maybe
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593[05:24:26] <sonnie> I use KDE though. anyway let me try,
thanks
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595[05:25:07] <sonnie> oh my, bad luck, still the same
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597[05:25:24] <l1Ll1Ll1L> grr. Stupid printers, giving everyone
headaches.
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600[05:26:06] <sonnie> i can't remember what i did
yesterday, they are just broken today
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602[05:27:10] <frustro> hi
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603[05:27:11] <l1Ll1Ll1L> I wonder, can you print a test page
from CUPS?
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604[05:27:32] <frustro> fedora core 4.0 to dumbass ubuntu 16
something
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605[05:27:44] <frustro> i want my processor back
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606[05:27:51] <sonnie> nope, unsupport document-format
application/vnd.cups-command
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607[05:28:20] <l1Ll1Ll1L> CUPS gives you that message when you
try to print a test page from the web interface?
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608[05:28:35] <sonnie> yes it gives me that
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610[05:28:44] <frustro> check your MIME
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611[05:28:59] <l1Ll1Ll1L> Was it previously able to print test
pages when your printers were working?
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615[05:29:53] <sonnie> it should be, i can't recall
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618[05:30:29] <l1Ll1Ll1L> hmm, I found one random thread were
reinstalling ghostscript fixed that problem
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621[05:31:52] <l1Ll1Ll1L> there are also a lot of smart people
in ##linux sonnie
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623[05:32:39] <sonnie> ok thanks
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631[05:33:52] <frustro> anyways, debian install got better in
last 5 years? still got find each piece or the repos got it all now
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708[06:32:02] <ofg|brtr> I want to create another user beside
**poestgres** (which is the the GOD admin for postgres) inside
postgresql and then create a database. the give that new user acess
to that new database. I am thinking wrong apparently. I am looking
at it with mysql mindset. Could you help me?
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714[06:38:15] <jmcnaught> ofg|brtr: look at the man pages for
the commands createdb and createuser (which you run as postgres
user)
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721[06:42:31] <nvz> does anyone know if I can change my sysrq
key without recompiling? My keyboard doesn't have a
PrntScr/SysRq key
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722[06:44:03] <tx> use xbindkeys
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723[06:44:18] <tx> assuming you are running x ;)
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724[06:44:22] <nvz> I'm pretty sure you have no idea what
I'm talking about
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725[06:44:40] <nvz> for sysrq to work it has to be done at the
kernel level
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726[06:44:51] <nvz> the times you need a sysrq noting else is
responding
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728[06:45:50] <tx> Well, if you need low level access to the key
there isn't really a way. You can send a signal to
/proc/sys/kernel/sysrq but at that point (if we are talking about
the use case where everything is basically fried)
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729[06:45:57] <tx> it would likely not be too useful.
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730[06:46:28] <nvz> its typically heavy swapping IO lagging up
these embedded systems
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731[06:46:55] <tx> pretty simple patch to make to the kernel
though, assuming you're okay apting the kernel image and
rebuilding. :)
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732[06:47:12] <tx> not viable?
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733[06:48:11] <nvz> the irony is, the mini keyboard which is a
handheld remote that came with it where I have to type with my
thumbs has a sysrq key but this slightllaptop sized
keyboard set I bought doesn't
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734[06:48:34] <nvz> can't rebuild the kernel the sources
aren't readily available, and its heavily patched
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735[06:48:54] <nvz> I'd have no video among other things if
I used regular sources
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736[06:49:07] <tx> Ah, bugger.
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740[06:49:52] <nvz> yes I've curesed the sunxi linux and
armbian teams endlessly for not using make-kpkg binary to compile
the f'n kernel
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741[06:50:00] <tx> Well if things aren't completely dead,
udev can remap keycodes.
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742[06:50:07] <nvz> they only offer headers packages not source
or docs
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743[06:50:45] <tx> Ah mm, seems this would only be useful for
PS/2.
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744[06:50:57] <tx> I'd wager you're using USB or
something integrated. :p
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745[06:51:02] <nvz> no its just usually swapping hard with IO
waits, its impractical to actually manuver around to kill something,
sysrq is the only thing that can figure out what to do in a single
macro
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746[06:51:16] <nvz> its an orangepi lite
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749[06:52:23] <nvz> I got sense to avoid these issues but at
times I push it, and sometimes I just underestimate how much memory
something will take until its too late
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752[06:53:28] <nvz> I've tested things like photo editing
in the gimp and multiple tabs in ff to see how it reacts
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757[06:55:06] <nvz> tx: I'll look into the udev option that
may work, I wasn't aware it could do that
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759[06:55:38] <nvz> tx: the only issue there is the key I use
would lose its normal function
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760[06:55:58] <nvz> but there is a pause/break key and I
don't use that hardly ever
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763[06:56:50] <nvz> in fact I can't think of one thing its
used for.. heh.. there are macros for those commands in linux like
^C, ^L, ^S, ^Q etc
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764[06:56:55] <tx>
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765[06:57:10] <tx> expecting flame for pasting an arch wiki page
but it has good examples and such.
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766[06:57:11] <tx> :P
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768[06:57:56] <nvz> tx: thanks, that will probably work if I use
udev to remap pause/break to prntscr/sysrq
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769[06:58:31] <LinuxGuy2020> Do the official DVDs and Bluray
images contain all of the contrib packages?
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770[06:58:35] <tx> Interesting to see how / if it works under a
lot of load.
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771[06:58:52] <nvz> or I could use numlock, I hate the numberpad
over the keyboard thing anyhow.. if its not a real keypad its not
worth usin
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773[06:59:22] <nvz> but I don't see myself using either of
those keys so maybe I'll remap them both to something more
useful
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775[06:59:54] <nvz> if I can remap numlock, it may depending on
how the keyboard is setup not allow me to do that
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776[06:59:59] <jmcnaught> LinuxGuy2020: "/msg dpkg cd
contents"
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779[07:01:07] <nvz> has anyone ever used pause/break for
anything in linux? I seriously can't recall one time in like 15
years of using linux, having ever used that key
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780[07:01:18] <nvz> I've used it in dos/windows many times
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781[07:02:29] <LinuxGuy2020> jmcnaught: If I was looking for a
specific package, then that would have helped. I see that the DVDs
do contain main and contrib packages. Just wondering if they have
all of the packages from contrib repo.
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783[07:02:59] <LinuxGuy2020> Just a yes or no.
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784[07:03:23] <jmcnaught> LinuxGuy2020: in the absence of other
answers you can check of the packages you need are on the images
using the site linked in that factoid
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785[07:03:57] <LinuxGuy2020> jmcnaught: Repeating the same
answer doesnt help.
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787[07:05:19] <jmcnaught> LinuxGuy2020: i guess you can wait for
someone else to do your research for you
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788[07:05:25] <LinuxGuy2020> Im creating a local mirror and need
to know if I need to manually copy all of contrib packages or if
they will be all included on the DVD set.
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790[07:05:58] <LinuxGuy2020> jmcnaught: Yes Ill wait and see if
someone else knows.
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791[07:06:09] <nvz> LinuxGuy2020: you're making a mirror
from DVDs?
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792[07:06:22] <LinuxGuy2020> I already know I have to get
non-free myself.
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793[07:06:43] <tx> you do know there are much easier ways to
mirror debian's apt repos right?
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794[07:06:49] <tx> there are even instructions on the wiki
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795[07:06:52] <LinuxGuy2020> nvz: Local repository to be exact.
Yes.
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796[07:06:58] <nvz> yes, there certainly are easier ways
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797[07:07:13] <LinuxGuy2020> This is pretty easy.
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799[07:07:20] <nvz> I've only ever done a apt cacher proxy
myself
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800[07:07:44] <tx> LinuxGuy2020: it will immediately become out
of date
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801[07:08:10] <nvz> yes that was what I was just typing.. its
more steps, it'll be out of date, and hard to update
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803[07:08:16] <tx>
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804[07:08:22] <jmcnaught> LinuxGuy2020: the debian website has
instructions for creating a mirror without using ISO images
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805[07:08:26] <LinuxGuy2020> All you do is copy all the pool
folders from the DVDs and run
"dpkg-scanpackages>packages.gz" copy to my NAS box and
walla
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806[07:08:57] <tx> or you could clone the repo using git :P
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809[07:09:08] <tx> or rsync iirc
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810[07:09:15] <jmcnaught> apt-cacher-ng is dead simple to set up
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812[07:09:22] <nvz> yeah, for the record 3 debian users just
told you this is a bad idea
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813[07:09:27] <LinuxGuy2020> Yes there are many ways to do shit
in linux we all know this
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815[07:09:41] <tx> jmcnaught: yup, but I don't think you
can do an initial "get everything" with that
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816[07:09:57] <tx> could be wrong though! we use an old version
here
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817[07:10:16] <nvz> apt-cacher is just for if you have lots of
debian boxes and want to save bandwidth by not downloading the same
thing twice
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818[07:10:23] <jmcnaught> it has a "guided
pre-caching" feature
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819[07:11:07] <jmcnaught> but if you _don't_ download
everything at once, then you don't download packages that
you'll never need. by default apt-cacher-ng only caches stuff
that's been used
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822[07:11:49] <LinuxGuy2020> lets just rattle off every other
way to do it other than what he said he was going to do cause we are
all smarter than he is.
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823[07:12:01] <nvz> LinuxGuy2020: there are also many ways to do
things in Debian, but your way is not one of the Debian ways of
setting up a local mirror, and you will not find much support on
your issue as a result, because people who know enough to be of any
help would never do such a thing
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824[07:12:04] <LinuxGuy2020> lets do that
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826[07:12:53] <LinuxGuy2020> For home use it works fine thanks
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829[07:13:09] <jmcnaught> LinuxGuy2020: it's not meant
personally, people are here because they like to help. What
you're doing sounds time consuming and inefficient
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830[07:13:23] <tx> Not just the first time either
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831[07:13:30] <tx> every time you want to get new packages. :(
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832[07:13:35] <nvz> oh it'll work, nobody said it
wouldn't work, we're just saying its highly ineffecient
and will result in a difficult to maintain and update system
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833[07:13:46] <Barre_> there are such things as dark-sites, then
cache functions and rsync it not much help.
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834[07:13:46] <jmcnaught> but if you're not in the mood for
free volunteer help, you could try again later
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835[07:13:49] <LinuxGuy2020> jmcnaught: How is downloading a set
of freely available DVDs inefficient?
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837[07:14:26] <tx> You're unpacking a tightly packed bunch
of parcels when you could just pick up its contents right away.
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838[07:14:28] <nvz> because someone had to convert the pool to
dvd then you gotta convert it back, in short.
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839[07:14:35] <jmcnaught> LinuxGuy2020: because you will
download all packages, including ones that you never install on any
systems. Probably most of the downloaded packages will never be
installed. And if you have to repeat that process, then you're
even further behind
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840[07:14:36] <LinuxGuy2020> No
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842[07:14:50] <LinuxGuy2020> There is no converting anything.
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843[07:15:06] <nvz> and that iso is a snapshot, its not the
actual repo.. new snapshots are not made all that often for ISOs
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845[07:15:19] <LinuxGuy2020> Merge all the pool folders and run
dpkg-scanpackages to get a packages.gz file and your done
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846[07:15:32] <nvz> if you downloaded them today you're
already downloading packages with a ton of bugs that were fixed
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851[07:16:03] <LinuxGuy2020> yeah and then you just download the
update DVD to fix all that in one go
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853[07:16:17] <tx>
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854[07:16:19] <tx> oh hey look
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855[07:16:20] <jmcnaught> or install apt-cacher-ng once, and
forget about it
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856[07:16:23] <tx> a pre-made packages.gz file
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857[07:16:29] <tx> not even on a DVD, crazy right?
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858[07:16:46] <john_rambo> After burning the Stretch iso to cd I
have deleted the original iso ... Is there a way to compare the md5
sum using the CD ?
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859[07:17:03] <jmcnaught> LinuxGuy2020: anyways you should do
what you want, but you have other options that might work better for
the problem you're solving
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860[07:17:15] <somiaj> john_rambo: if you recall what iso you
used, you can look up teh checksum on the cdimage mirrors
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861[07:17:39] <nvz> john_rambo: most burning software
automatically checksums the disk, and the checksum of the disk
should be the same as the iso
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862[07:17:52] <tx> john_rambo: there are shasums in the repo
folder you got the ISO file from
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863[07:17:56] <tx> for example,
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864[07:18:08] <tx> you can do a dd / read of the ISO file into a
big binary file
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865[07:18:13] <tx> shasum that file, and compare :)
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866[07:18:19] <LinuxGuy2020> you guys are always so friendly
here. Bunch of fucking elitist snobs
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868[07:19:29] <tx>
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869[07:19:37] <nvz> LinuxGuy2020: well that's actually well
documented, the official debian support is on OFTC, it was changed
from here for that reason. But our methods also have purpose, you
will likely come in here asking questions about something again and
we won't be able to figure it out because your using rube
methods of getting the packages
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870[07:19:45] <tx> do a sha512 for the best accuracy + it looks
cool
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871[07:19:52] <tx> eg (
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872[07:20:08] <john_rambo> nvz, You mean the burning software
checks the checksum even if the checksum file is not present the iso
image folder ?
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873[07:20:24] <tx> john_rambo: I believe it would do its own
checksum of the iso file
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875[07:20:38] <john_rambo> tx, Okay
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876[07:20:39] <nvz> john_rambo: I mean typically the dialog
shows you the cheksum, its up to you to make sure its right
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877[07:20:58] <tx> Best way to make sure though, read the CD
back and compare it to the one online.
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878[07:21:41] <john_rambo> tx, Never done this before ... please
guide me through
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879[07:22:11] <tx> john_rambo: are you familiar with
'dd'?
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880[07:22:19] <nvz> md5sum /dev/sdc or whatever,
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881[07:22:41] <nvz> you don't have to image a disk to
checksum it, dd is doing the same thing as just checksum it in place
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882[07:22:41] <john_rambo> nvz, $ md5sum /dev/cdrom
9346436c0cf1862af71cb0a03d9a703c
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883[07:22:57] <tx> How long did that checksum take lol
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884[07:23:03] <tx> doesn't it have to read the disk in
full?
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885[07:23:19] <john_rambo> tx, No it took about a minute
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886[07:23:24] <tx> er, well, not in full
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888[07:23:33] <tx> ok :)
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889[07:23:39] <tx> john_rambo: now, where did you get the ISO
from?
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891[07:23:46] <tx> nvz: handy.
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892[07:24:02] <nvz> all dd would be doing is reading the device
node anyhow
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893[07:24:07] <nvz> what difference would it make
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894[07:24:08] <john_rambo> From Debian's download page tx
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895[07:24:23] <tx> here
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896[07:24:35] <tx>
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897[07:24:40] <tx> It looks like it matches!
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898[07:24:49] <nvz> I'm going back to doing shit
that'll lockup my machine .. heh.. cheers
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899[07:24:50] <tx> 9346436c0cf1862af71cb0a03d9a703c
debian-9.0.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso
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900[07:24:59] <tx> nvz: tell me how that udev stuff goes
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901[07:25:20] <nvz> tx: I'll be back sometime but probably
not for a few hours
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902[07:25:24] <tx> cool
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903[07:25:46] <john_rambo> Thanks a lot
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904[07:25:53] <tx> john_rambo: Enjoy.
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happen. the ext working on just left mouse button is a really,
really bad idea cause it makes highlighting/copying text hell
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953[08:06:41] <jrs> hi!
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954[08:07:10] <jrs> i have a machine that requires a kernel. i
compiled it okay, but now i'm wondering how to create an initrd
for it?
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956[08:07:42] <jrs> (or even better, a debian package -
unfortunately,
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959[08:10:30] <jmcnaught> !kernel-handbook
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960[08:10:30] <dpkg> The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook
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962[08:10:40] <jmcnaught> jrs: ^^
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976[08:23:52] <PipeItToDevNull> So is there no make-kpkg in
stretch?
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980[08:26:15] <jmcnaught> the new way is documented in the
handbook linked above
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982[08:26:28] <jmcnaught> it's not that new
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984[08:29:03] <darxmurf> hi all
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1029[08:53:45] <vadimkolchev> Hi all. Anyone aware of desktop
task manager (todo) for Debian that can sync with different PCs?
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1053[09:03:15] <jmcnaught> vadimkolchev: evolution can sync task
lists
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1058[09:04:26] <vadimkolchev> jmcnaught, okay, great, will check
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1071[09:09:27] <inthl> uhm, what contains make-kpkg in apt..? I
can't find that on packages.debian.org
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1074[09:11:10] <inthl> kernel-package is not available in
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1078[09:13:55] <jmcnaught> inthl: you can check for reasons
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1081[09:14:38] <jrs> jmcnaught: thank you! got it going now :)
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1082[09:14:39] <jmcnaught> inthl: you can also use the method
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1087[09:16:08] <inthl> jmcnaught, thank you for the hints
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1092[09:16:56] <Irulan> Hello. I have 2 problems since I upgraded
to stretch : a xen guest crashes every few days, and gpg cannot
decrypt my files
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1093[09:17:14] <jmcnaught> inthl: deb-pkg was developed to
replace make-kpkg
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1094[09:18:15] <Irulan> gpg: public key decryption failed:
Inappropriate ioctl for device / gpg: decryption failed: No secret
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parameters like --initrd, --apend-to-versiion and --revision to
that, since I'd pass that to make, not to make-dpgk, or make
deb-pkg
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1102[09:20:37] <jmcnaught> inthl: i think it's all covered
in that handbook, but i'm not a custom kernel compiler. as
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1133[09:39:19] <user_____> i hav successfully installed apache2
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1135[09:40:06] <apollo13> that sounds like a security feature
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1141[09:41:53] <user_____> i did
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1142[09:41:58] <user_____> php-cgi too
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1144[09:42:46] <Irulan> libapache2-mod-php ?
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1147[09:43:45] <user_____> i feel it has to do with configuration
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1150[09:45:15] <user_____> placed upload.php in /usr/lib/cgi-bin
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1151[09:45:16] <user_____> yes
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1154[09:46:50] <Irulan> user_____: you should place it into
/var/replaced-url
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1155[09:47:00] <jmcnaught> user_____: don't put files in
/usr/lib
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1156[09:47:25] <user_____> html is in /var/replaced-url
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1157[09:47:25] <Irulan> with mod_php, you don't have to put
files in cgi directories
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1158[09:47:31] <user_____> ok
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1167[09:50:02] <user_____> /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ is default for
apache2
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1171[09:50:26] <user_____> was trying to minimise configuration
atleast to teast it 1st
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1173[09:50:34] <user_____> *test
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1174[09:50:40] <afidegnum> hello pls give a hint, i m trying to
enable key based authentication on my remote server..... ssh-keygen
should this be perform on a remote server or local PC ?
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1175[09:51:08] <jmcnaught> user_____: the directories in /usr are
only for packages installed by apt/dpkg to write to. You should use
/usr/local instead
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1176[09:51:17] <Irulan> afidegnum: local. put the .pub on remote
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1177[09:51:26] <user_____> ok
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1181[09:52:29] <jmcnaught> afidegnum: if password authentication
is still enabled on the remote, then you can use "ssh-copy-id
user@example.com", and it will copy local ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub to
remote ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
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1182[09:53:13] <user_____> i dont want to use cgi. i just want to
execute php at the backend
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1184[09:53:45] <Irulan> user_____: so you should put your php
files in /var/replaced-url
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1185[09:53:50] <user_____> did
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1187[09:53:59] <afidegnum> Irulan: jmcnaught thanks
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1189[09:55:44] <user_____> instead of executing upload.php, it is
showing the code of the upload.php
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1190[09:55:45] <Irulan> user_____: did it run ?
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1191[09:55:47] <user_____> no
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1192[09:56:43] <jmcnaught> a side note, it's really easy to
install php-fpm in stretch now. you can "apt install apache2
php7.0-fpm" and then you just need to enable a couple of
modules and a conf with a2enmod/a2enconf (and it shows you what to
do in the output of the install). Just as easy to get started with
as libapache2-mod-php, but does not require apache prefork MPM
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1199[09:58:13] <Irulan> was apache2 restarted since mod_php was
enabled ?
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1200[09:58:21] <user_____> yes
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1203[09:59:02] <user_____> how to check mod_php?
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1204[09:59:18] <jmcnaught> user_____:
replaced-url
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1205[10:00:18] <user_____> i dont use userdir
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1206[10:00:33] <jmcnaught> user_____: then don't enable that
module
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1207[10:01:09] <user_____> how to check mod_php?
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1208[10:01:33] <user_____> i hav followed
replaced-url
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1209[10:01:46] <Irulan> php7.0.{load,conf} must be present in
/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
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1210[10:02:12] <user_____> its present
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1211[10:02:35] <user_____> any modification in it has to b done?
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1212[10:02:54] <Irulan> no, it should work out of the box
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1213[10:02:58] <jmcnaught> user_____: put a file name
guitarsolo.php containing the single line "<?php phpinfo();
?>" in /var/replaced-url
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1214[10:03:11] <user_____> dat works
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1216[10:03:21] <user_____> just the backend doesnt work
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1217[10:03:23] <jmcnaught> user_____: it shows a php info page?
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1218[10:03:27] <user_____> yup
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1219[10:03:32] <jmcnaught> then PHP works
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1221[10:03:53] <afidegnum> in which cases do we use kerberos vs
password authentication?
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1223[10:04:02] <user_____> wen i click send button, it is not
executing upload.php
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1225[10:04:49] <jmcnaught> user_____: something else doesn't
work. what do you get in your browser? what's in
/var/log/apache2/error.log on the server?
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1228[10:05:36] <user_____> instead of executing upload.php, it is
showing the code of the upload.php
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1229[10:06:21] <jmcnaught> user_____: what have you changed
inside /etc/apache2 including commands like a2enmod
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1230[10:06:24] <jmcnaught> ?
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1232[10:06:43] <user_____> enables cgi
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1233[10:06:52] <user_____> nuthing else till now
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1234[10:07:01] <user_____> *enabled
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1235[10:07:41] <Irulan> you doesn't need cgi with mod_php
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1236[10:07:42] <jmcnaught> user_____: you also need to look in
/var/log/apache2. you can use "tail -v -f
/var/log/apache2/{access,error}.log" in a terminal to follow
both logs live as you request the page
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1240[10:09:29] <user_____> html code:
replaced-url
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1241[10:10:00] <Irulan> your php file lacks <?php open tag
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1242[10:12:06] <user_____> done
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1243[10:12:08] <user_____> thank u
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1244[10:13:37] <Irulan> you're welcome
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1275[10:31:04] <Aebian> which files call the MOTD? I recently get
them twice but nothing is listed in ~/.profile and the MOTDS in
/etc/motd is also just present one-time
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1295[10:40:09] <afidegnum> hello, anyone familiar with hetzner, ?
i m having issue with my smtp sending mails, exim can't send
mails, from the logs it shows it has been delivered but the mails
doens't reach recipients
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1297[10:41:08] <petemc> if the log shows mails being sent they
are probably hitting spam filters
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1299[10:42:25] <MarcoNL> I have a laptop with HDMI and VGA
output. When I connect two same type samsung montitors, no problem.
When I connect 1 samsung monitor with vga and one high res monitor
with hdmi, I get the login screen on all 3 monitors but when I
should see my desktop, all goes black.
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1300[10:42:44] <MarcoNL> anyone got any idea what is wrong? In
Xorg log I see no errors
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1302[10:44:02] <MarcoNL>
replaced-url
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1303[10:44:17] <afidegnum> petemc: hetzner's or local spam
filter?
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1304[10:44:25] <afidegnum> i haven't set any spam filter yet
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1305[10:44:44] <petemc> the receiving server
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1307[10:45:11] <afidegnum> many recipiens from different servers
faces teh same thing
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1313[10:48:46] <afidegnum> petemc: apparently there is a timeout
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1314[10:48:57] <afidegnum> using thunderbird
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1315[10:49:11] <petemc> you said the log shows mails being sent?
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1326[10:53:56] <afidegnum> petemc: ok, i m seeing the error now
2017-07-10 10:53:15 TLS error on connection from [41.210.59.121]
(gnutls_handshake): The TLS connection was non-properly terminated
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1345[11:03:09] <sn00z> Hi guys i've a question, some one can
tell me which database is the best please ?
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1346[11:03:37] <sn00z> Between mysql postres, or a sqlite ?
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1347[11:03:43] <sn00z> In a web app
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1348[11:04:01] <Mathisen> i would imagine that would depend on
use case
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1351[11:05:47] <sn00z> Yes, imagine in a web app for store
account informations ?
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1352[11:05:56] <saka> For small projects (like you and 2 friends)
sqlite is the best since it avoids some headache; for more you
should use mysql or postgres
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1356[11:06:30] <sn00z> Ok thks and between postgres and mysql
which is the best ?
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1358[11:07:23] <saka> Also, you may want to use an ORM, which
gives you the opportunity to use any database changing only few
lines of code.
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1359[11:07:33] <Aebian> sn00z: depends. postgres is file based,
MysQL (now mariadb) is not
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1363[11:09:06] <saka> atm I'm using postgres for my
projects, but if you aren't experienced with databases I'd
go to mysql
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1367[11:09:37] <saka> Anyway, keep in mind you can switch one for
the other anytime if you use ORMs
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1372[11:11:14] <sn00z> Ok thks for your answers, i also use
postgres an mysql but i very don't know which is the best ^^
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1406[11:23:02] <LogicalPeyote> hi all
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1412[11:24:39] <LogicalPeyote> /msg LogicalPeyote REGISTER
<alsg174> <luca@mmcomputers.it>
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1415[11:26:56] <saka> sn00z, it depends on your use cases:
(usually) mysql is more performant, and requires less experience;
meanwhile postgres is more complex and robust, but for simple
projects it may be an overkill
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1419[11:27:31] <LogicalPeyote> hey saka, do u know how i can
register a new usename?? i n new on irc xD
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1420[11:27:36] <sn00z> Ok thks saka
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1422[11:28:07] <saka> (my teacher at university tells us to use
oracle 12c and that is an overkill, lulz)
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1423[11:28:45] <saka> LogicalPeyote, you may want to write
"/nickserv help" (without quotes)
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1424[11:28:48] <l1Ll1Ll1L> LogicalPeyote,
replaced-url
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1426[11:29:07] <l1Ll1Ll1L> See registration
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1427[11:29:10] <LogicalPeyote> thank you so much :)
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1432[11:31:37] <LogicalPeyote> /msg NickServ REGISTER
<password> <email-address>
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1450[11:49:37] <rapha> After 3 HOURS of compilation:
"dpkg-gencontrol: error: illegal package name: character
'A' not allowed" - are you frigging KIDDING me?
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1451[11:50:03] <rapha> Is there any way to prevent "make
deb-pkg" from doing "make clean"? :-(
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1471[11:59:45] <jrmu> sorry about that, irritating
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1476[12:02:24] <rapha> Ah, seems you can hack the Makefile.
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1582[12:58:54] <nvz> tx: I've given up on that, the
information was outdated and I can't figure it out
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1588[13:00:26] <nvz> I'm now thinking a simpler solution
would be writing a custom module to have a button on the GPIO header
write to the /proc/ interface to do a sysrq
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1592[13:02:18] <nvz> I don't want a big keyboard or I'd
just get another one. This keyboard leaves some things to be desired
but its just the right size
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all the keys are in the right place and are normal sized
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the Fn keys is my only real complaint
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1657[13:29:12] <pragomer> hi. on work I just got a new laptop.
tried to install debian stretch, but get a complete blackscreen
after grub menu. also with nomodeset. the model is Travelmate P4,
TMP449-G2-M-76X3
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1659[13:29:20] <pragomer> any ideas how to install debian??
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1661[13:30:17] <JPT> Not sure if that's still a thing, but
back in the days, you could press some fn+some f key shortcut to fix
such things?
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1663[13:30:48] <JPT> Otherwise, perhaps try to set a vga
parameter that works with your resolution?
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1666[13:32:05] <pragomer> how to set a vga parameter at grub
menu?
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1668[13:32:24] <JPT> similar to the nomodeset param. edit the
grub entry and add it to the linux line
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1689[13:42:22] <fast> I've created a usb boot stick, after
booting i can choos the installation type but then the usb keyboard
stops working. I've already tried booting with iommu=soft and
noapic nolapic. Any hints?
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1692[13:43:54] <uhohrewrite> fast: is chceksum of image you
downloaded ok?
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1694[13:44:09] <fast> let me check..
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1699[13:46:04] <voidie> hi :d
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1701[13:46:09] <uhohrewrite> hello
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1702[13:46:35] <voidie> :) hey how are you
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1703[13:47:05] <uhohrewrite> Im fine thanks. And you?
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1706[13:47:42] <voidie> im good :)
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1708[13:47:57] <voidie> im more an slackware user
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1709[13:48:08] <fast> uhohrewrite: Checksum is looking good.
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1710[13:48:08] <voidie> but because of posix i love all linux :)
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1713[13:48:41] <kirby_> #python-ru
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1714[13:48:51] <uhohrewrite> voidie: even 1.X ?
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1715[13:49:12] <uhohrewrite> fast: then dunno, maybe your
keyboard is an unike snowflake
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1716[13:49:33] <voidie> yes even 1.X
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1717[13:49:36] <voidie> you gotta start somewhere
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1719[13:51:10] <uhohrewrite> oldest Linux I ever used was 2.2
probably
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1720[13:51:18] <fast> uhohrewrite: I've tried 4
keyboards..so maybe i've got alot of unike snowflake keyboards
or something else is broken :D
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1721[13:51:43] <voidie> i have 4 usb ports and a broken firewire
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1722[13:51:44] <uhohrewrite> fast: unique matherboard? xD
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1724[13:52:04] <voidie> :P
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1729[13:53:03] <fast> not sure i'll tryout a different
server..
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1730[13:53:08] <uhohrewrite> fast: what type of device? Personal
computer aka PC?
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1732[13:53:16] <uhohrewrite> ah server
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1733[13:53:23] <fast> uhohrewrite: Dell Power Edge R200(?)
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1734[13:53:35] <voidie> you got an i-system aswell?
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1735[13:53:45] <voidie> os400 is the crit
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1736[13:53:48] <uhohrewrite> you got bootloader on that image? is
keyboard working in bootloader?
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1738[13:54:07] <fast> Yes its working in bootloader
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1741[13:54:21] <voidie> it's broken if it runs without
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1742[13:55:09] <uhohrewrite> than no ideas from me.maybe try
another kernel options. or maybe kernel is not configured properly
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1743[13:55:31] <uhohrewrite> or missing modules etc
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1747[13:57:51] <uhohrewrite> fast: you may want to send bug
report to developers. That may be easy to solve in short time.
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1749[13:58:20] <voidie> i had a kernel
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1750[13:58:24] <voidie> costum kernel
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1751[13:58:32] <uhohrewrite> iya hiya hooo
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1752[13:58:35] <voidie> which is why it throws or doesnt throw
alot of errors^
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1754[13:58:43] <uhohrewrite> iya hiya hooo
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1755[13:58:46] <uhohrewrite> xD
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1759[14:01:16] <uhohrewrite> Old McDonalld had a server farm
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1763[14:02:04] <jelly> !offtopic
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1764[14:02:04] <dpkg> #debian is primarily a support channel for
Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and
take longer discussions and non-support questions to
#debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of
people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few
minutes every day.
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1765[14:03:19] <jelly> fast, what did you use to write the image
to the usb stick?
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1766[14:03:55] <uhohrewrite> fast: dd with blocksize parameter?
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1769[14:04:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
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1770[14:04:46] <voidie> iya hiya hoo
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1771[14:05:00] <jelly> voidie, please stick to tech support
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1772[14:05:21] <voidie> ^^ k
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1773[14:05:51] <jelly> we have a separate channel for chat and
general shenanigans, #debian-offtopic
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1775[14:05:58] <fast> jelly: As described here
replaced-url
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1776[14:06:44] <jelly> fast, so, cp, that is probably not causing
issues then
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1777[14:07:43] <fast> I've tried to boot the server from a
cd with the same image. The USB Keyboard is working.
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1784[14:13:08] <jelly> once the installer has booted into linux
it shouldn't just lose usb hid
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1785[14:13:36] <jelly> fast, did you use text mode for the
installer or graphic mode
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1787[14:13:58] <fast> Text Mode.
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1791[14:14:35] <voidie> text Mode because i feel like an hacker
seeing an white and black screen
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1792[14:14:44] <voidie> jk
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1794[14:15:03] <uhohrewrite> voidie: l33t h4x0r using CLI? k-kool
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1795[14:15:13] <fast> The last time i looked at the text mode
installer it was rather blue/grey/red-ish oO
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1796[14:15:40] <voidie> fast: i was kidding there
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1797[14:15:47] <fast> I know ;)
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1798[14:15:50] <BluesKaj> my wireless KB worked great with the
netinstall/textmode and still does on stretch
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1800[14:16:03] <BluesKaj> uses usb transceiver
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1801[14:16:15] <voidie> uhohrewrite: ya man, because that's
how you hack right? you use programs in shells
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1802[14:16:17] <TandyUK> hey guys, where can i get a debian 8.8
netinstall image from
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1803[14:16:42] <voidie> xD i could send you one from switzerland
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1804[14:16:48] <TandyUK> the downloads page, and the
cdimage.debian.org site also only has 9.0 releases in current, and
doesnt see mto have any archives
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1805[14:16:57] <voidie> but i'ts 9.8
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1806[14:17:19] <voidie> 9.0.8 sry
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1807[14:17:22] <jelly> voidie, again, keep comments to relevant
and helpful, so I don't have to quiet your ass
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1808[14:17:26] <TandyUK> i just need to send the download url to
a colleague so he can privision a new server
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1809[14:17:39] <TandyUK> it needs to be 8.x in keeping with the
rest of our platform
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1810[14:17:42] <BluesKaj> fast, thelegacy textmode is used with
the netinstall blue-red
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1814[14:18:20] <jelly> TandyUK,
replaced-url
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1817[14:19:22] <TandyUK> jelly, why no links to that on the
'current' downloads page
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1818[14:19:29] <TandyUK> its not like 8.x has been obsoleted yet
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1819[14:19:56] <TandyUK> also a lot of people ive spoken to
seriously dislike the forced replacement of mysql with mariadb
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1820[14:20:23] <jelly> there's usually a link to oldstable
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1822[14:20:40] <TandyUK> well if there is, neither me or
colleague are seeing it
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1823[14:20:48] <TandyUK> its like its been deliberately hidden
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1827[14:22:33] <jelly> TandyUK, main page, > Read more about
available versions of Debian.
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1828[14:23:15] <uhohrewrite> mariadb? It's buggy as heck for
production use
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1830[14:23:26] <uhohrewrite> or was it innodb
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1832[14:23:33] <TandyUK>
replaced-url
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1834[14:23:43] <TandyUK> thast the page that needs link to the
archives imho
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1835[14:23:45] <jelly> TandyUK, that links to
replaced-url
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1836[14:23:46] <TandyUK> and its sub pages
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1838[14:23:58] <TandyUK> otherwise, its still 'hidden'
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1840[14:24:35] <jelly> TandyUK, the web pages do look somewhat
outdated. If you have time, please file a bug report for package
replaced-url
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1841[14:24:38] <TandyUK> normal people go debian.org > getting
debain > one of the options. and now have no reference ot the
fact 8.x even existed
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1843[14:24:44] <TandyUK> i jyust did
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1844[14:24:48] <jelly> thanks!
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1845[14:24:53] <TandyUK> if you want it in a format other than
irc, knock yourself out
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1846[14:25:07] <uhohrewrite> with a hammer?
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1847[14:25:18] <TandyUK> if you wish lol
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1848[14:25:19] <jelly> TandyUK, sorry dude, this channel
isn't a bug report venue
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1849[14:25:34] <TandyUK> its not a bug report, theres no bug lol
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1850[14:25:42] <TandyUK> theres just no obviosu download links
for 8.x
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1851[14:25:46] <TandyUK> shit website !== bug
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1852[14:25:52] <jelly> that's a bug against the webiste
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1853[14:25:59] <jelly> yes, it's a bug
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1854[14:26:01] <TandyUK> no a big is somethign not working
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1855[14:26:01] <uhohrewrite> ya i had same issue with a sit
TandyUK
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1857[14:26:26] <TandyUK> whatever, if you want a bug, go report
it as one
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1858[14:26:28] <TandyUK> my bit is done
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1859[14:26:31] <jelly> gotcha
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1862[14:28:16] <TandyUK>
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1864[14:28:45] <TandyUK> also that page which is the announcement
of 8.8's release links to
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1866[14:28:52] <francine> Hi
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1867[14:28:57] <TandyUK> you can file another bug report for that
if you wish
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1871[14:29:14] <francine> Does Debian Stretch have Hyper-V
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1874[14:30:20] <jelly> francine, yes. however there are some
minor bugs, like disks on scsi/sas controller visible 8 times in
linux
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1880[14:33:06] <francine> Okay, thanks, but what do you mean with
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1882[14:33:57] <jelly> you get eg. /dev/sdb, /dev/sdc ...
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1883[14:34:13] <jelly> lvm tools complain about that, but work
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1884[14:34:50] <francine> Hmm, I'll test it
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1944[15:12:38] <meseira> hi all
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1946[15:13:50] <meseira> i am not an expert with pam.d and i need
some help to dispel a doubt
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1950[15:15:22] <meseira> in order to run graphics apps in a
container, i had the cgroup 'devices' at line
"session optional pam_cgfs.so" in
/etc/pam.d/common-session and
/etc/pam.d/common-session-noninteractive
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1951[15:16:26] <meseira> is it clean? No prone to make my system
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1953[15:16:52] <meseira> maybe there is an other way to let my
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1956[15:19:06] <meseira> (just in case, i run Debian Stretch)
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1958[15:21:35] <abrotman> it says optional. should be okay
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1959[15:21:41] <abrotman> obviously, back it up first
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1978[15:31:02] <olx69> Hi I try to add software from 3rd party
into an frsh debian9 VM and failed :( I get a similar error by use
of apt-key adv --keyserver ... as of gpg --keyserver ... namely
dirmgr no such file ... apt-key adv seems to be obsolete now, but
lternative didnt work. How to import a key?
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1980[15:32:32] <jhutchins_wk> olx69: We don't support third
party repositories, and generally recommend against using them.
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1981[15:32:45] <JyZyXEL> doesn't debians "mail"
utility support printing the current number of unread messages?
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1982[15:32:59] <JyZyXEL> i can not find a single way to get that
value
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1992[15:37:52] <olx69> I want to install the UniFI controller
software to configure my WLAN hotspot, I have no other option!!
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1993[15:38:14] <olx69>
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1994[15:38:33] <olx69> I assume, this isn't at the offical
repos, isn't it?
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2002[15:40:22] <delYsid> Anyone noticing ssh connection problems
on new stretch servers, which is fixed by downgrading
UsePriviledgeSeparation from "sandbox" to "yes"?
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2008[15:41:48] <delYsid> we have the third independently
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2009[15:41:53] <delYsid> So it looks to be systematic.
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2020[15:46:04] <tremolo> Well, it looks like I've been using
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2022[15:47:03] <olx69> oh,ok, unifi seems to be at offical repos,
no need to add a key for 3rd party. Anyway, unifi doesn't
install, jsvc. mongodb, java8 isn't installed. How to resolve
this dependencies automatically using apt? BTW, apt-get install jsvc
failed with not available
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2023[15:48:17] <olx69> ah, reading correct the error: depends on
jsvc, but jsvc isn't installable (no reasons mentioned)
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2024[15:48:27] <jelly> ,v jsvc
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2025[15:48:28] <judd> Package: jsvc on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.10-3;
jessie: 1.0.15-6+deb8u1; stretch: 1.0.15-7; buster: 1.0.15-8; sid:
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2026[15:48:47] <jelly> olx69, which debian release are you using
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2027[15:48:53] <olx69> release 9
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2028[15:48:56] <jelly> !bat
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2029[15:48:56] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
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2030[15:49:29] <jelly> ^^ olx69, can you provide all the info
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2032[15:49:57] <olx69> I would like, copy&paste isn't
possible in the VM :(
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2033[15:50:12] <olx69> pure keyboard terminal
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2035[15:50:21] <meseira> abrotman: is is "optional" but
important, without this option, i can't run the nested graphics
apps
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2036[15:50:46] <meseira> thus something more is allowed
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2040[15:51:04] <jelly> olx69, use ssh.
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2041[15:51:28] <jelly> and a terminal emulator you can copy and
paste from
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2054[16:00:20] <abrotman> meseira: sure, but you don't want
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2055[16:00:22] <olx69> I took awhile to get the ssh :)
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2057[16:03:12] <olx69> mongodb doesn't seems to be in the
offical repos too. apt-cache search failed
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2068[16:05:43] <jhutchins_wk> ,v mongodb
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2069[16:05:44] <judd> Package: mongodb on amd64 -- wheezy:
1:2.0.6-1.1; wheezy-security: 1:2.0.6-1.1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports:
1:2.4.8-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:2.4.10-5+deb8u1; stretch: 1:3.2.11-2;
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2071[16:06:09] <olx69> probably not all repos are active here at
my VM
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2074[16:07:13] <jelly> that java dependency looks broken for
debian 9
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2076[16:07:28] <olx69> also no man command avalable; I will
reinstall debian into the VM ...
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2078[16:07:42] <jelly> jsut install man
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2093[16:12:02] <forcerecon> what do you use on debian instead of
route
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2094[16:12:02] <forcerecon> route command not found
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2096[16:12:23] <jelly> ip r
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2099[16:13:03] <forcerecon> /sbin/route works
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2100[16:13:04] <forcerecon> thanks
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2110[16:17:18] <aksn> hi all. which would be the best way to
remove configurations of uninstalled packages without --purge
option?
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2112[16:17:59] <aksn> I found this, but I'm not sure if
it's safe: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |grep ^rc |awk '{print $2}
' | xargs dpkg -P
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2123[16:21:14] <Epakai> aksn: the -P option is the same as
--purge, you can run that command without the | xargs dpkg -P to see
what packages it would remove
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2126[16:21:23] <meseira> abrotman: exactly! So, is there a way to
allow some specific user to handle its own cgroup
'devices'?
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2127[16:21:38] <abrotman> huh?
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2128[16:21:48] <abrotman> meseira: try it, yoiu should be fine
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2130[16:22:07] <meseira> abrotman: yes, i already do it and this
is ok
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2133[16:22:43] <meseira> abrotman: i just ask it because i do not
really understand the impact of such a thing
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2136[16:23:42] <abrotman> PAM is a mystical thing. :)
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2139[16:24:18] <meseira> abrotman: yes, definitely :-)
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2140[16:24:30] <aksn> Epakai, the list seems to be correct
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2143[16:24:52] <aksn> but I'm afraid of purging
mysql-server-5.5 package, this won't affect the current mariaDB
configuration?
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2147[16:26:23] <abrotman> meseira: FWIW, you can "touch
/etc/pam_debug", and hten turn on the debug log in your
rsyslog, get (among others) PAM output
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2149[16:26:25] <olx69> So, I'm back with a new install of
debian9, maybe the prior VM was a to small seeeetup
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2153[16:27:43] <meseira> abrotman: yeap, thx
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2182[16:39:28] <ChrisH> I need a new graphicard for my office
desktop. (New Monitors arrived and the onboard is not able to handle
the native resolution) Where do I find docu on which card/vendor is
working with stable or oldstable (+ backport kernel) nearly
out-of-the-box?
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2185[16:40:19] <greycat> what makes you think the onboard chipset
can't handle this resolution?
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2187[16:40:42] <ChrisH> greycat: The vendor's specs and
testing :)
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2191[16:42:22] <ChrisH>
replaced-url
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2194[16:43:25] <dury> hi there channel :-)
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2196[16:44:18] <dury> did someone solve how to launch
xscreensaver in stretch?
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2197[16:44:54] <greycat> ,v xscreensaver
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2198[16:44:55] <judd> Package: xscreensaver on amd64 -- wheezy:
5.15-3+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.15-3+deb7u1; jessie-security:
5.30-1+deb8u1; jessie-updates: 5.30-1+deb8u2; jessie: 5.30-1+deb8u2;
stretch: 5.36-1; sid: 5.36-1; buster: 5.36-1
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2199[16:45:05] <colo-work> ChrisH, what resolution do you new
LCDs have, and which connectors?
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2201[16:45:29] <Tenkawa> dury: eh?
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2202[16:45:34] <Tenkawa> xscreensaver&
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2203[16:45:48] <Tenkawa> that usually launches just fine for me
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2204[16:45:50] <th0r> Tenkawa: (space)
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2206[16:46:14] <colo-work> th0r, that's optional
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2209[16:46:25] <dury> Tenkawa, in stretch?
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2210[16:46:25] <Tenkawa> th0r: what colo-work said
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2213[16:46:51] <Tenkawa> dury: I use it all..
stable/stretch/unstable
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2214[16:46:55] <th0r> I always thought it was
required...something new every day :)
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2216[16:47:06] <Tenkawa> what is happening?
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2217[16:47:19] <Tenkawa> maye I can help with that
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2218[16:47:39] <Tenkawa> not trying to be difficult.. was
actually surprised..
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2219[16:47:41] <ChrisH> colo-work: native 2560x1440 (DP and HDMI)
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2220[16:47:46] <dury> Tenkawa, it doesn't launch for me
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2222[16:48:00] <Tenkawa> any errors/messages?
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2223[16:48:01] <colo-work> ChrisH, so HDMI 2.0 then?
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2224[16:48:10] <greycat> Tenkawa: shell syntax is often very
surprising.
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2225[16:48:28] <dury> Tenkawa, you tell that to me?
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2226[16:48:39] <dury> Tenkawa, if any errors
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2228[16:48:41] <Tenkawa> greycat: xscreensaver has always been
very straight forward though
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2229[16:48:57] <bimbo> buonasera a tutti
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2230[16:48:57] <Tenkawa> let me reset mine and take a look
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2231[16:49:03] <bimbo> !list
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2232[16:49:03] <dpkg> bimbo: È possibile scaricare un
sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a
replaced-url
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2233[16:49:06] <greycat> !it
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2234[16:49:06] <dpkg> Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto
in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will
get much more help.
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2235[16:49:41] <Tenkawa> dury: does a popup not show up with the
logo then go away?
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2237[16:49:52] <Tenkawa> if you do it from a terminal?
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2241[16:50:38] <dury> Tenkawa, which command you mean
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2242[16:50:50] <greycat> dury: you were told to run
xscreensaver&
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2243[16:50:58] <Tenkawa> start an xterm/terminal and run
xscreensaver&
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2244[16:51:01] <dury> sorry guys
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2245[16:51:06] <dury> one sec.
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2248[16:51:11] <Tenkawa> no problem
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2249[16:51:15] <greycat> (You are allowed to put a space before
the & if you wish.)
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2251[16:51:25] <Tenkawa> indeed
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2252[16:51:32] <Tenkawa> I juts do it out of habit
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2254[16:51:35] <Tenkawa> this way
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2256[16:51:43] <Tenkawa> er just
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2257[16:51:48] <dury> done
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2259[16:51:52] <dury> now?
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2260[16:52:09] <Tenkawa> did a window come up with a banner then
go away?
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2263[16:52:30] <dury> no
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2265[16:52:43] <Tenkawa> what did that terminal window say?
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2266[16:52:56] <dury> one sec.
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2267[16:53:38] <dury> [1] 4036
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2268[16:53:45] <dury> then...
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2269[16:53:49] <dury> mmmm...
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2270[16:53:53] <dury> one sec.
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2271[16:54:00] <greycat> It's probably running, then.
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2272[16:54:10] <Tenkawa> i agree
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2273[16:54:11] <friiq> mmmm
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2275[16:54:25] <friiq> dury: what are you eating
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2276[16:54:31] <ChrisH> colo-work: We assume yes. I was not yet
able to confirm it. LCD is Dell u2515h For Graphicscard something
like ASUS Radeon R7 360 Mini should be OK if the kernel/xserver is
fine with it.
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2277[16:54:35] <dury> xscreensaver: 16:51:23: already running on
display :0 (window 0xe00010)
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2278[16:54:35] <dury> from process 1407
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2280[16:54:55] <Tenkawa> dury: its already running
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2281[16:54:59] <Tenkawa> you need to trigger it
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2282[16:55:02] <Tenkawa> thats all
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2283[16:55:41] <dury> trigger it how is that.... tell me how to
do it please
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2285[16:56:33] <Tenkawa> that depends on which desktop
environment and window manager you picked
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2287[16:56:39] <Tenkawa> which one do you use?
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2288[16:57:06] <dury> gnome
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2289[16:57:19] <Tenkawa> it should be in gnome settings then
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2290[16:57:25] <Tenkawa> if I remember correctly
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2291[16:57:41] <colo-work> dury, alternatively, try
xscreensaver-command -activate
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2292[16:57:47] <Tenkawa> I use xfce so its been a while.. someone
who uses gnoe step in please
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2293[16:58:08] <Tenkawa> er gnome
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2294[16:58:26] <dury> all right colo-work
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2295[16:58:38] <Tenkawa> that is definitely a good way to test it
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2297[16:59:06] <dury> Tenkawa, what colo-work said?
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2298[16:59:17] <Tenkawa> yep
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2299[16:59:23] <dury> all right
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2301[16:59:49] <dury> jeeesssuss guys really appreciate your
support believe me
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2302[17:00:15] <Tenkawa> no problem... this is fun to me
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2304[17:00:58] <Tenkawa> I'm just trying to fix an android
box over here and its running things so I'm waiting on it a lot
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2312[17:03:51] <Tenkawa> dury: did that work?
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2315[17:04:28] <dury> if I execute xscreensaver-command -activate
it launches, but it's programmed for one minute to launch and
it doesn't
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2317[17:05:11] <greycat> Maybe ask in #gnome?
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2319[17:05:39] <Tenkawa> yeah that sounds more like the window
manager in gnome holding control of the screen
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2321[17:05:44] <boxrick1> Is there a way to make apt-get return
an error code when it fails to fetch a repo?
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2324[17:06:07] <Tenkawa> boxrick1: I think it already does
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2325[17:06:30] <greycat> What apt-get command did you run, what
happened, and what was the exit status?
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2332[17:08:33] <dury> Tenkawa, what you suggest, then?
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2336[17:08:59] <Tenkawa> I agree with greycat
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2338[17:09:03] <ChrisH> colo-work: any recommendation on a
graphic card or vendor?
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2341[17:09:54] <colo-work> ChrisH, I'd go with an AMD card
that got released in 2016.
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2344[17:10:25] <styks1987> I am unfamiliar with determining if a
system uses x11 or not. I have two separate debian instances. One
appears to be x11 but the other does not (based on a package that
requires it) how can I determine if it is using x11 or not?
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2345[17:10:33] <colo-work> ChrisH, check this list maybe
replaced-url
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2346[17:11:00] <colo-work> ChrisH, if in doubt, also ask in
#radeon
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2351[17:15:03] <boxrick1> I ran "apt-get update" it
failed since it was pointing towards a repo which had its apache
server stopped ( I manually caused this )
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2352[17:15:14] <boxrick1> Then it shows a return code of 0
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2353[17:15:20] <boxrick1> When id expect a different return code
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2354[17:15:24] <greycat> File a bug report.
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2360[17:19:12] <dury> no idea how exactly xscreensaver works, but
it isn't really gnome's job to start it after a minute of
inactivity or so, that's what they said to me in #gnome though
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2362[17:20:29] <Tenkawa> no.. something in gnome is interfering
with the screensaver's recognition of inactivity of the screen
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2364[17:20:37] <Tenkawa> the screensaver is running
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2366[17:20:59] <Tenkawa> the problem is that its not triggering
after the inactivity time
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2367[17:21:03] <Tenkawa> er time
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2368[17:21:32] <dury> from looking at the package it seems, i
would expect that you would need to run "xscreensaver" on
login, but that's really just guessing he said
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2369[17:22:17] <dury> hang on
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2371[17:22:20] <ChrisH> colo-work: Thanks
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2372[17:22:46] <Tenkawa> well a good test of that is to logout
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2373[17:22:48] <Tenkawa> and login
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2374[17:22:57] <Tenkawa> open a terminal
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2375[17:23:03] <Tenkawa> run ps auxww | grep xscreensaver
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2376[17:23:07] <Tenkawa> see if anything comes back
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2377[17:23:14] <Tenkawa> let me know what you get
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2378[17:23:18] <dury> one sec.
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2382[17:24:27] <dury> 1407 0.0 0.0 69404 5404 tty1 S+ 12:17 0:07
/usr/bin/xscreensaver -nosplash
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2383[17:24:32] <dury> and
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2387[17:24:45] <dury> 4296 0.0 0.0 12784 972 pts/0 S+ 17:23 0:00
grep xscreensaver
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2389[17:24:49] <Tenkawa> yes its running
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2390[17:25:11] <Tenkawa> ter no
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2391[17:25:15] <Tenkawa> er no its notr
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2392[17:25:25] <Tenkawa> I just saw the grep line
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2393[17:25:28] <Tenkawa> ok
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2394[17:25:44] <dury> Tenkawa, what's that?
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2395[17:25:47] <jhutchins_wk> styks1987: Are the systems running
Debian?
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2396[17:25:48] <greycat> The 1407 line shows that it *is*
running.
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2399[17:26:05] <greycat> We already knew this from the previous
error that said it was runnig with PID 1407 when he tried to start a
second instance.
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2402[17:26:15] <Tenkawa> greycat: oops I only saw his grep line..
scrolled too fast
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2403[17:26:17] <styks1987> jhutchins_wk: yes, both are running
8.8. The vagrant version is running an older kernel
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2404[17:26:22] <Tenkawa> my apologies
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2406[17:26:31] <styks1987> both are 64
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2408[17:27:02] <Tenkawa> either way if thats the old one he ran
its not a clean startup
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2410[17:27:30] <Tenkawa> I want to see it starting it up cleanly
from startx/xdm
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2411[17:28:00] <jhutchins_wk> styks1987: Do they both have a GUI?
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2413[17:28:12] <styks1987> jhutchins_wk: neither has a gui
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2414[17:28:25] <styks1987> jhutchins_wk: I am trying to get
—dpi to work from wkhtmltopdf. It appears to work on the
linode instance but not the vagrant instance
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2415[17:28:30] <jhutchins_wk> styks1987: Then niether is _using_
x11.
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2416[17:28:51] <jhutchins_wk> One or both may have Xorg
installed.
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2417[17:28:53] <dury> Tenkawa, no two lines after that last
command you told me
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2418[17:28:54] <greycat> Perhaps you're actually asking
whether libx11 and friends are *installed*?
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2419[17:29:11] <greycat> I don't know what this wkhtml thing
requires to do its job.
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2420[17:29:39] <styks1987> greycat: the docs say it will not work
on x11 based systems
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2421[17:30:06] <greycat> That's bullshit.
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2422[17:30:20] <greycat> Either the docs are poorly written or
you are misunderstanding.
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2423[17:30:58] <Tenkawa> dury: to test this properly you'll
need to logout and back in X.. is that ok?
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2425[17:31:07] <styks1987> greycat: Probably misunderstanding but
this is what the docs say “Change the dpi explicitly (this has
no effect on X11 based systems) (default 96)"
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2426[17:31:24] <styks1987> Change the dpi explicitly (this has no
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2428[17:31:30] <greycat> "this does nothing" is very
different from "it will not work on x11 based systems"
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2436[17:33:06] <styks1987> greycat: gotcha, I’m just
confused as to why or how one is aparently based on x11 but the
other is not. So my real goal is to find a way to determine if one
really is based on x11
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2437[17:33:08] <dury> Tenkawa, logout and back again you mean
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2438[17:33:29] <styks1987> or get a straight answer on what that
really means
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2440[17:33:50] <Tenkawa> you will need to kill the xscreensaver
process too before you logout
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2441[17:34:03] <Tenkawa> I want to make sure it starts back up on
its own
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2442[17:34:08] <Tenkawa> if not we need to fix that
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2443[17:34:41] <jhutchins_wk> styks1987: I would imagine that X11
based systems set the DPI, and that setting it in this program will
not affect it if the DPI is controlled by X11.
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2445[17:34:51] <jhutchins_wk> styks1987: Debian uses Xorg.
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2446[17:34:54] <dury> Tenkawa, tell me how to kill the process by
command please
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2449[17:35:32] <Tenkawa> kill 1407 from a terminal
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2450[17:35:43] <dury> ok
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2451[17:35:51] <dury> one sec
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2452[17:35:54] <Tenkawa> sure
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2455[17:36:15] <Tenkawa> then run that ps command again and make
sure xscreensaver is gone
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2456[17:36:38] <greycat> or just ps -fp 1407
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2457[17:36:50] <dury> there is one
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2458[17:36:54] <Tenkawa> greycat: just wanted to be thorough
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2459[17:36:58] <dury> one sec.
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2460[17:37:02] <Tenkawa> dury: grep though right?
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2461[17:37:05] <greycat> he's going to be confused by grep
finding itself
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2462[17:37:13] <Tenkawa> ahh
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2464[17:37:16] <Tenkawa> good point
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2466[17:37:28] <dury> this one 4316 0.0 0.0 12784 972 pts/0 S+
17:36 0:00 grep xscreensaver
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2467[17:37:41] <Tenkawa> ok good
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2468[17:37:46] <Tenkawa> now
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2469[17:37:54] <Tenkawa> logout of your x session and back in
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2472[17:38:18] <dury> one sec. please
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2473[17:38:28] <dury> or more whatever
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2475[17:38:36] <Tenkawa> sure
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2476[17:38:37] <Tenkawa> no rush
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2477[17:38:45] <dury> great
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2480[17:39:19] <dury> have to close this irc Tenkawa?
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2481[17:39:23] <Tenkawa> yes
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2482[17:39:27] <dury> ok
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2483[17:39:38] <Tenkawa> irc back in once you are logged back in
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2485[17:39:44] <dury> be back in a sec. wait
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2499[17:42:11] <Tenkawa> dury: I realized something while you
were away
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2500[17:42:18] <Tenkawa> can you run this in a terminal
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2501[17:42:26] <Tenkawa> dpkg -l | grep gnome-screensaver
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2502[17:42:27] <dpkg> ii | grep gnome-screensaver 3.4-1 ultra
s3kr1t #debian package
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2506[17:42:38] <Tenkawa> haahaa oops
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2507[17:42:56] <Tenkawa> forgot about that channel responder
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2512[17:44:20] <dury> Tenkawa, rc gnome-screensaver 3.6.1-7+b2
amd64 GNOME screen saver and locker
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2513[17:44:30] <Tenkawa> intriguing
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2515[17:44:56] <Tenkawa> looks like you have some incomplete
files on there
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2517[17:45:31] <Tenkawa> greycat: do you agree?
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2518[17:45:41] <dury> Tenkawa, what's that
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2520[17:46:10] <greycat> I don't know anything about
gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver. I was just checking to see if
they conflict with each other.
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2524[17:46:42] <greycat> All I do is manually run i3lock when I
want to lock the screen. That's all.
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2525[17:47:00] <dury> still two lines after "ps auxww | grep
xscreensaver"
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2526[17:47:05] <Tenkawa> greycat: same here
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2527[17:47:19] <Tenkawa> I have a button
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2533[17:48:49] <dury> Tenkawa, there must be one line or two?
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2535[17:49:18] <greycat> Ignore the line that contains
"grep", if it appears.
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2536[17:49:25] <Tenkawa> dury: good you got the screensaver line
and the grep line
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2538[17:49:30] <Tenkawa> that means its running
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2540[17:50:03] <Tenkawa> then yes.. if it is not activating it is
definitely your window environment interfering
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2543[17:50:47] <Tenkawa> did you check the times>
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2544[17:50:49] <Tenkawa> er times
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2545[17:50:56] <Tenkawa> and how?
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2546[17:51:04] <Tenkawa> they may be set reallly high
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2548[17:52:12] <dury> I activate by command only other way it
doesn't
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2551[17:53:05] <Tenkawa> right... my point is the defaults for
activation times are like 30 minutes
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2552[17:53:21] <Tenkawa> so its got to idle for 30 minutes with
no activity
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2556[17:54:36] <Tenkawa> want me to help you change that
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2557[17:54:37] <Tenkawa> ?
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2560[17:55:06] <dury> go
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2564[17:55:24] <Tenkawa> looking up the settings
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2566[17:55:42] <dury> then
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2569[17:56:01] <Tenkawa> got it
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2570[17:56:06] <Tenkawa> ok open that termina
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2571[17:56:12] <Tenkawa> run xscreensaver-demo
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2572[17:56:21] <Tenkawa> does it bring up a window of settings?
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2573[17:56:30] <dury> yep
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2574[17:56:38] <Tenkawa> try setting those
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2575[17:57:12] <dury> those one what?
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2576[17:57:21] <Tenkawa> the ones you want adjusted
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2580[17:57:42] <dury> blank after 10 minutes right now
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2583[17:58:15] <Tenkawa> this also sets the times, which
screensaver, and more
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2589[17:58:52] <dury> see what's happened after 10 minnutes
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2590[17:59:04] <Tenkawa> whatever it says
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2591[17:59:07] <dury> or we put 1 minnute
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2598[18:00:35] <dury> is quicker
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2622[18:08:24] <vadimkolchev> Hello. What file in home folder is
responsible for gnome 3 desktop icons font color? Have home after
ubuntu installation and the font is black instead of white.
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2635[18:13:21] <somiaj> vadimkolchev: maybe ask in #ubuntu
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2636[18:13:37] <vadimkolchev> somiaj, maybe) however I don't
run ubuntu now
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2641[18:14:12] <somiaj> due to version differences between ubuntu
and debian, you may want to use a fresh $HOME or user account, see
if the issue is something with your old home dir
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2642[18:14:25] <somiaj> creating a new user is a good way to
check if something is system or user setup.
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2643[18:14:47] <somiaj> I am unsure on what to edit with gnome,
but there is a gconf editor or tweak tool that can be used to
configure more core stuff with gnome.
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2645[18:15:10] <vadimkolchev> somiaj, yes, but I had reason not
to create new user. I managed to solve it with gnome-tweak-tool.
just changed theme settings back and forth and they are back to
defaults. Anyway, thanks for your help.
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2648[18:15:28] <kang9> Free software is possible; why Free
hardware doesn't exist yet?
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2651[18:16:00] <nkuttler> kang9: because you're not making
it
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2654[18:17:00] <vadimkolchev> one day it will be this way,
really. Corps will take money for services provided on free
hardware+software
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2655[18:17:11] <vadimkolchev> you can see something like that
with Amazon now.
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2656[18:17:40] <vadimkolchev> Kindles cost cheaply because users
buy many e-stuff through it
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2677[18:28:22] <kion> I am installing Debian on an old computer I
am trying to figure out if I should use 32 bit system or 64, I did a
'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and on phisical address says 34 bits
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2678[18:28:54] <tx> kion:what is the CPU make and model
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2679[18:29:06] <tx> if you do not know, it is also in
/proc/cpuinfo
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2681[18:29:21] <tx> under "model name"
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2688[18:31:59] <kion> tx intel core 2 duo E8300
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2691[18:32:22] <apollo13> supports 64
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2693[18:32:44] <tx> Yes, please use the amd64 distro.
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2695[18:32:48] <tx> // x86_64.
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2700[18:33:08] <kion> apollo13, ok so I need to download the 64
bit Debian, correct?
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2701[18:33:12] <apollo13> yes
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2702[18:33:21] <kion> Thanks!
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2703[18:33:25] <apollo13> I mean 32bit would work too, but kinda
pointless
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2705[18:33:47] <kion> apollo13, understood, I will install the 64
bit
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2731[18:42:25] <jil> What's the name of the application that
can automaticaly detect the keyboard layout ?
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2758[18:53:28] <Andocromn> If i've previously installed a
backports kernel, how do I switch back to the normal kernel?
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2759[18:53:43] <towo`> boot it?
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2760[18:54:15] <Andocromn> yeah as default
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2768[18:55:31] <towo`> Andocromn, boot the default kernel and
purge the backports one
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2769[18:56:25] <Andocromn> how do i tell apt to purge just the
backports kernel?
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2770[18:57:23] <jhutchins_wk> jil: I don't believe there is
one.
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2772[18:58:02] <Andocromn> so i'd have to remove all my
kernels to remove the backports one?
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2774[18:58:22] <towo`> Andocromn, kidding?
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2775[18:58:33] <jhutchins_wk> Andocromn: No, specify the full
package name of the one you want to remove.
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2776[18:58:41] <towo`> Andocromn, dpkg -l | grep linux | grep bpo
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2777[18:58:49] <jhutchins_wk> Andocromn: If you have aptitude,
you can use it's menu driven interface.
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2779[18:59:13] <jhutchins_wk> towo`: Also dpkg l linux* | grep
bpo
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2780[18:59:22] <jhutchins_wk> =l
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2781[18:59:45] <jhutchins_wk> aah, you know what I mean.
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2785[19:01:13] <towo`> jhutchins_wk, dpkg -l linux* does not work
here on unstable
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2791[19:04:34] <Andocromn> so when i try to apt-get remove
linux-image-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64... it also wants to remove
linux-image-amd64... is my concern
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2794[19:06:01] <greycat> Try "apt-mark manual
linux-image-amd64" ?
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2804[19:09:16] <Andocromn> linux-image-amd64 was already set to
manually installed...
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2806[19:09:42] <Andocromn> i'll just try removing it and
putting it back i guess
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2807[19:09:51] <greycat> Then I don't know why apt-get
remove would attempt to remove it, in the absence of some weird
apt.conf(.d) option.
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2810[19:11:14] <jhutchins_wk> towo`: Might want to report that,
works fine on 8.8
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2811[19:11:52] <greycat> jhutchins_wk: needs to be linux\* to
avoid globbing against local files
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2813[19:12:12] <jhutchins_wk> greycat: Yeah, or
"linux*"
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2814[19:12:17] <greycat> *nod*
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2815[19:12:44] <towo`> i don't like that, since that even
shows non installed packages, the grep onnly shows installed ones
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2818[19:13:47] <greycat> The grep version also forces dpkg's
output to a non-terminal, so you don't get truncation.
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2821[19:14:01] <greycat> You need dpkg -l linux\* | cat or
similar to get that effect with the other one.
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2828[19:17:39] <Olof_szary> hello. How to check the MAC address
of interface? I am running new liveISO and there is no ifconfig
program
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2831[19:17:55] <jasperarcola> ip link
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2832[19:18:33] <jasperarcola> or e.g. ip link show eth0 (the
device name will be different)
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2834[19:19:05] <Olof_szary> thanks :) Hmm.. <NO-CARRIER...
worries me
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2835[19:19:42] <Olof_szary> is ethtool also embedded with it
somehow?
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2840[19:20:31] <jasperarcola> not sure, hang on a sec i have a
stretch vm
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2853[19:25:44] <hexhaxtron> Hi! I'm trying to run a website
on the 'replaced-url
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2855[19:25:48] <jasperarcola> no ethtool by default, i guess you
want to see 10/100/1000 status etc?
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2856[19:25:48] <hexhaxtron> But I don't want users to see
things of other users. How should I do this?
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2858[19:26:15] <greycat> hexhaxtron: chmod 711 /home/username
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2860[19:26:26] <jasperarcola> if you are using apache use
mod_userdir, and each user gets there dir in ~/public_html (or where
ever they want it)
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2861[19:27:08] <hexhaxtron> greycat: 403 Forbidden
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2865[19:28:14] <greycat> hexhaxtron: does not compute. 711 is
world-searchable, so apache can go through /home/username to get to
/home/username/public_html/
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2866[19:28:24] <hexhaxtron> greycat: I'm using nginx.
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2868[19:28:50] <greycat> Permissions work the same way.
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2869[19:29:06] <hexhaxtron> greycat: I get 403...
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2870[19:29:36] <hexhaxtron> 403 Forbidden
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2871[19:29:44] <Olof_szary> jasperarcola: thanks. It seems that
it is even more serious that I thought and not pc-side problem.
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2874[19:30:04] <jasperarcola> Olof_szary
replaced-url
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2876[19:30:42] <Olof_szary> btw, why ifconfig is not there by
default?
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2878[19:31:01] <Olof_szary> ah, I see
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2880[19:31:19] <jasperarcola>
replaced-url
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2886[19:33:27] <Olof_szary> sorry to bother you more, when did it
happened, last month?
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2887[19:33:37] <greycat> !stretch
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2888[19:33:38] <dpkg> Stretch is the codename for the current
<stable> release, Debian 9, released 2017-06-17.
"Stretch" is the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3, see
replaced-url
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2890[19:34:14] <Olof_szary> thank you all
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2892[19:34:42] <jmcnaught> hexhaxtron: i don't think that
nginx has a userdir module like apache does, so you are probably
using some regex in a config. have you checked logs to confirm that
the files being accessed are the ones you want (and set permissions
for)?
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2898[19:37:12] <greycat> That's true, and that's how my
nginx is configured, but I still cannot think of any reason why
removing o+r from /home/foo would matter for
replaced-url
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2905[19:40:20] <mate_CRAZY> hey, dudes.
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2906[19:40:25] <mate_CRAZY> all right ?
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2908[19:41:31] <mate_CRAZY> anyone running mate desktop ?
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2912[19:43:39] <Brigo> mate_CRAZY, me at least.
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2914[19:43:56] <jhutchins_wk> !ask
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2915[19:43:57] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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2916[19:44:03] <mate_CRAZY> Brigo, nice, Do You also have a not
working brightness slider in the power options ?
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2918[19:44:35] <Brigo> mate_CRAZY, are you in a laptop? i am in a
desktop
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2919[19:44:43] <mate_CRAZY> jup. laptop
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2921[19:45:08] <mate_CRAZY> replaced the overhead silly gnome 3
by mate, because I like that flat stile
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2922[19:45:10] <mate_CRAZY> style
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2925[19:46:11] <Brigo> mate_CRAZY, my brightness sliden
don't work either.
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2928[19:47:03] <mate_CRAZY> Brigo, I could change the brightness
by changing the value in /sys/class/....intel_backlight, will see,
if that will stay the same after reboot
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2929[19:47:15] <mate_CRAZY> but I really miss the nice slider
stuff...
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2932[19:48:06] <Brigo> there should be any keyboard shortcut
anyway for the brigthness.
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2935[19:48:42] <mate_CRAZY> Brigo , yeah, and which ?
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2939[19:48:59] <Andocromn> towo, so the key to getting the normal
kernel back (i think) was to run "apt-get -t jessie install
linux-image-amd64" after remove the bpo kerne;
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2940[19:49:07] <mate_CRAZY> and if the shortcut works, why the
slider doesn`t ?
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2942[19:49:39] <mate_CRAZY> maybe there is a mate irc channel ?
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2943[19:49:43] <Brigo> mate_CRAZY, i don't know even if the
shortcut will work. But if it works it could be a bug.
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2944[19:49:58] <mate_CRAZY> :-D
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2945[19:50:03] <Brigo> mate_CRAZY, probably. There is a
debian-mate
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2946[19:50:11] <mate_CRAZY> ah, ok, thx
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2947[19:50:16] <Mick24> Hi, is there a way to migrate to SysVinit
?
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2948[19:50:29] <jhutchins_wk> !mate
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2949[19:50:29] <dpkg> The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of
GNOME 2, available since Debian 8 "Jessie" (and also in
wheezy-backports). To install, ask me about <install mate>.
replaced-url
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2950[19:50:33] <greycat> !stretch sysvinit
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2951[19:50:33] <dpkg> To replace systemd with sysvinit in
stretch, simply "apt-get install sysvinit-core" and
reboot. To switch from systemd to runit, "apt-get install
runit-systemd", reboot, "apt-get install runit-init",
and reboot again.
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2957[19:52:29] <mate_CRAZY> need to leave, 3% battery, shiat,
need to get that brightness adjusted., see ya next time , bye
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2978[20:03:53] <hexhaxtron> greycat: any help?
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2979[20:05:34] <hexhaxtron> greycat: it works with 755 but not
711...
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2982[20:08:45] <jasperarcola> you need to have x permissions on a
directory to read the list of contents
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2986[20:09:17] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: the thing is that I
don't want users to see things of other users.
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2988[20:10:04] <jasperarcola> make the users dirs be a group that
nginx runs as (replaced-url
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2989[20:10:24] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: I tried that. It should
work but I can't make it work.
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2990[20:10:25] <jasperarcola> (and the users are not in that
group as well)
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2991[20:10:48] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: I created a group
called services and added
replaced-url
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2992[20:10:54] <jasperarcola> hmm, not sure then, maybe find a
way to get more logging out of nginx
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2995[20:12:46] <bezaban> hexhaxtron: you can't nest groups
on linux
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2998[20:13:13] <bezaban> 750 user:replaced-url
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3000[20:14:22] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: bezaban I tried this:
replaced-url
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3001[20:14:29] <hexhaxtron> And I still get 403 Forbidden.
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3002[20:14:41] <jasperarcola> hexhaxtron you can use ps -p
<processid> -o user,group,supgrp,args
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3003[20:14:51] <jasperarcola> to see which groups a process is
running as
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3008[20:16:19] <jasperarcola> what does 'ls -l /home/h'
show?
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3009[20:16:19] <bezaban> hexhaxtron: yeah, that won't work
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3011[20:16:59] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: nobody nogroup nogroup
nginx: worker process
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3013[20:17:28] <jasperarcola> ok, so nginx is running as
nobody:nogroup and
replaced-url
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3014[20:17:46] <jasperarcola> (and i meant 'ls -ld
/home/h' )
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3015[20:17:48] <hexhaxtron>
replaced-url
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3017[20:18:38] <jasperarcola> look for the 'user' line
in /etc/nginx/nginx.conf
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3020[20:19:34] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: #user nginx;
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3022[20:19:56] <jasperarcola> ok, remove the leading # and then
systemctl restart nginx
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3024[20:20:14] <starstuff> Hi, does anyone here use g++ on Debian
Stretch?
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3025[20:20:39] <jasperarcola> then: cd /home ; chgrp
replaced-url
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3026[20:20:55] <jasperarcola> and it has a better chance of
working
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3029[20:21:36] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola:
replaced-url
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3030[20:22:19] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: maybe I need to create
the user nginx?
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3031[20:22:22] <jasperarcola> ok, no nginx user, do you have a
replaced-url
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3032[20:22:23] <jasperarcola> getent passwd
replaced-url
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3033[20:22:31] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: yes, I have.
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3036[20:22:47] <jasperarcola> if you do, then use 'user
replaced-url
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3040[20:24:18] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: it works! Thanks! :)
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3041[20:24:28] <jasperarcola> ok, we got there in the end :)
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3042[20:24:29] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: are you familiar with
dovecot and postfix too?
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3043[20:25:23] <jasperarcola> i use dovecot for my imap server
and i use postfix in a few other places but i'm not so familiar
with either of them. (set dovecot up a few years ago and now just
leave it alone)
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3054[20:28:20] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: I'm trying the
same with other users but it doesn't work...
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3055[20:28:21] <hexhaxtron> root@skylake:/home/h/hexhaxtron# cd
..
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3056[20:28:24] <hexhaxtron> Oops.
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3057[20:28:36] <hexhaxtron> drwxr-x---+ 2 pokemongo users 4096
Jul 7 18:12
replaced-url
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3058[20:28:58] <hexhaxtron> Should I change all users group to
the group
replaced-url
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3059[20:29:12] <sptnx> can u use the --force-badname option when
you choose username in the installer in some way?
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3061[20:29:44] <jasperarcola> don't alter the users
themselves, change the group on there home directory
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3065[20:31:11] <jhutchins_wk> Wow. Installing from an iso on SSD
to a VDI on SSD is FAST!
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3067[20:31:36] <jhutchins_wk> sptnx: Why?
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3068[20:31:43] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola:
replaced-url
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3069[20:32:21] <jhutchins_wk> Then again, now we're on the
network install portion, and that's still hitting the
overloaded mirrors.
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3070[20:32:27] <sptnx> jhutchins_wk: i wanna have a dot in
username and it's annoying to always have to edit that
afterwards
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3071[20:32:52] <jhutchins_wk> sptnx: The installer doesn't
like it?
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3072[20:33:30] <jhutchins_wk> sptnx: Just make a dummy account
and set up the real account later.
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3077[20:35:11] <sptnx> no, installer dont like it and i
can't see any way to force it in the installer
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3078[20:35:28] <jasperarcola>
replaced-url
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3081[20:35:45] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: just a moment.
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3082[20:35:46] <jasperarcola> and everything thats group services
needs to be group
replaced-url
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3083[20:36:01] <sptnx> should be an option to use --force-badname
in the installer
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3084[20:36:21] <jasperarcola> you are using a hashed username
home dir setup? so foo's homedir is /home/f/foo ?
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3085[20:36:28] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: drwxr-x---+ 2 pokemongo
services 4096 Jul 7 18:12
replaced-url
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3086[20:36:35] <hexhaxtron> I still get 403 Forbidden.
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3087[20:36:45] <jasperarcola> should be pokemongo:replaced-url
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3088[20:37:34] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: same thing. 403
Forbidden
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3089[20:37:54] <jasperarcola> whats the permissions on the
directory above?
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3091[20:38:26] <jasperarcola> got nginx to get to a file in
/home/x/x/replaced-url
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3092[20:38:26] <sptnx> 750
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3093[20:38:59] <jasperarcola> so the directories must be either
0755, or group
replaced-url
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3095[20:39:04] <hexhaxtron> drwxr-x---+ 12 pokemongo services
4096 Jul 10 17:17 pokemongo
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3099[20:39:25] <hexhaxtron> jasperarcola: the services group has
replaced-url
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3101[20:39:48] <jasperarcola> you can't nest groups like
that
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3102[20:39:59] <jmcnaught> sptnx: create the user after you
finish the installer
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3103[20:40:20] <jasperarcola> you could change the
replaced-url
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3105[20:40:34] <jasperarcola> then nginx can access 0750
foo:services directories
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3107[20:40:51] <jasperarcola> you can try things out as
replaced-url
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3108[20:41:08] <jasperarcola> then see which bits of the
filesystem you can access
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3109[20:41:19] <jasperarcola> you can use 'id' to see
what group and user you are
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3110[20:41:44] <jhutchins_wk> jasperarcola:
replaced-url
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3112[20:42:12] <jasperarcola> which is why i'm telling sudo
to run bash ;)
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3113[20:42:29] <sptnx> jmcnaught: yeah i know there's many
way to do that when installer is finish, but i'm lazy and wanna
have it right from beginning..
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3115[20:42:33] <jhutchins_wk> jasperarcola: Ah, missed that.
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3117[20:42:55] <jhutchins_wk> sptnx: Use preseed or kickstart.
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3119[20:43:10] <jhutchins_wk> sptnx: How many machines do you
build on the average day?
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3120[20:43:12] <jmcnaught> sptnx: i would consider switching to a
username that adduser doesn't complain about
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3123[20:45:07] <sptnx> not that many, maybe 5-10 debian a week
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3124[20:45:34] <greycat> hexhaxtron: For whatever it's
worth, nginx, wheezy. I loaded
replaced-url
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3125[20:46:11] <sptnx> jmcnaught: we are using firstname.surname
everywhere else so that's not an option. i guess i have to
script sed to update /etc/passwd, shadow, and group
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3126[20:46:19] <greycat> I can show you my nginx config for that
virtual host if you wish.
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3127[20:46:36] <jhutchins_wk> sptnx: That would be worth setting
up an automated build.
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3128[20:47:41] <sptnx> jhutchins_wk: yeah i know. it's on my
todo-list so someday :)
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3139[20:55:25] <moez> I'm trying to project my debian laptop
to my TV using an HDMI / wifi AnyCast, is this possible on debian?
do I need a particular software?
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3150[21:00:14] <sptnx> moez: try this maybe:
replaced-url
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3152[21:00:53] <jhutchins_wk> 30 minutes to install, including a
couple of pauses waiting for input.
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3163[21:03:38] <sptnx> doh! i have blocked all ssh-traffic and
just accept my adsl-ip to one of my private servers.. but i dont
have adsl anymore, i have fiber with another isp
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3171[21:10:34] <dondelelcaro> sptnx: one of the many reasons why
it's good to also have a VPN configured as well
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3180[21:12:04] <jhutchins_wk> sptnx: You may also want to allow
connections between your remote servers so you have multiple paths.
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3191[21:16:53] <Violinist> how come my windows get all scttered
when i resume from screenlock
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3192[21:16:53] <sptnx> dondelelcaro: yeah but i wanted keep the
open ports minimal.. i have to contact the dc-admin but once
i'm in i gonna make some rules so this don't happens again
:)
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3193[21:17:02] <Violinist> its not even going into sleep
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3195[21:18:00] <sptnx> it isn't possible to spoof my ip
since i already have done the handshake with remote sshd?
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3198[21:18:24] <dondelelcaro> sptnx: you could just use sslh or
similar
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3200[21:18:34] <dondelelcaro> sptnx: and only have :443 open
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3203[21:18:54] <moez> sptnx: I tried, but unfortunately I got
stuck after "> run 3" (this worked but not sure what to
do after)
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3207[21:20:32] <jmcnaught> sptnx: if you have the same username
scheme on multiple systems, have you thought about using LDAP for
all of the first.lastname users, with an admin account creately
locally sans '.'?
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3212[21:24:36] <sptnx> username coming from ldap/ad and once
servers are joined to domain we dont use local username so it's
not really an issue, it's just annoying for me that i need use
the -l option first time i ssh and then change my username
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3217[21:25:36] <jmcnaught> ahh
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3218[21:25:39] <sptnx> :)
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3219[21:26:03] <sptnx> i just gave it a shoot, there maybe was a
way to force bad username in the install
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3233[21:29:13] <jmcnaught> sptnx: if you're running the
installer manually, you could try getting a shell in-target and
install/configure LDAP before first boot (or with d-i
preseed/late_command)
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3242[21:32:14] <sptnx> have to configure package manager and
install some package before it can join to domain so have to setup
root and user first.. make an custom image is probably the best way
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3246[21:33:27] <jmcnaught> or use ansible to do the post-install
bootstrapping
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3264[21:38:06] <tona> hello guys
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3267[21:38:59] <tona> ssh restart , it is telling me could not
resolve hostname restart: name or service not known, i am wondering
if someone could help me
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3268[21:39:15] <greycat> tona: are you trying to restart the ssh
service?
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3269[21:39:20] <sptnx> jmcnaught: gonna have a look at that,
thanks for the tip
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3273[21:39:58] <tona> yes i have restart using /etc/init.d/ssh
restart but doesnt work
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3274[21:40:21] <greycat> if you're on jessie or later, as
root run systemctl restart ssh
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3275[21:40:45] <greycat> there are lots of variants that will
also work, e.g. systemctl restart sshd.service
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3276[21:40:50] <greycat> way too many
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3281[21:42:06] <jmcnaught> sshd.service is just a symlink to
ssh.service
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3282[21:42:08] <sptnx> jmcnaught: ansible is working just because
it just use ssh? you can't do the same with puppet or chief for
example?
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3285[21:42:46] <esaym153> just upgraded to stretch and see sddm
is the recommended DM now, but it doesn't support XDMCP so how
do I log in remotely (with gui) now to a stretch install?
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3287[21:43:11] <jmcnaught> sptnx: you could install puppet agent
as a late_command for example, but one of ansible's advantages
is that it uses ssh instead of an agent
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3299[21:49:03] <jhutchins_wk> tona: The command you used was
telling the ssh client to connect to "restart".
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3303[21:50:33] <jhutchins_wk> tona: however, if /etc/init.d/ssh
restart didn't work something may be wrong with the config.
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3304[21:50:58] <greycat> Or he didn't run it as root.
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3306[21:51:03] <jhutchins_wk> (Stretch preserves the init scripts
as hooks to systemd.)
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3307[21:51:19] <jhutchins_wk> Yeah, depends on what the response
was.
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3320[21:59:24] <sorpigal> interfaces(5) says that some options
are made available by packages other than ifupdown and that those
options are not documented in the interfaces man page. Where can I
find documentation for e.g. the interfaces options provided by the
wpasupplicant package?
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3322[22:00:05] <sptnx> jmcnaught: i will definitely look at that
tomorrow.. seems promising for my requirements
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3324[22:00:19] <jhutchins_wk> !wpasupplicant
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3325[22:00:19] <dpkg> Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) is a wireless
encryption standard. A WPA supplicant for Debian systems is in the
wpasupplicant package, read
/usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz to configure
(especially "Troubleshooting" for association to hidden
SSIDs). Since Debian 7 "Wheezy", it is possible to install
Debian over a WPA-protected network.
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3326[22:00:34] <jmcnaught> sptnx: i really love ansible, i use it
for all of my configuration management
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3329[22:01:21] <jhutchins_wk> phogg: The Networking docs on the
wiki may also be helpful, I think they explain interfaces vs.
network-manager options.
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3330[22:01:28] <phogg> aha, so the answer in this case is
"it's in the README.Debian.gz." Is that going to be
the same for all other packages providing extensions?
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3332[22:02:47] <jhutchins_wk> phogg: It varies, different people
work on different packages and do things their own way.
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3333[22:03:10] <jhutchins_wk> phogg: It's always good to
check those files, although it's often unrewarding.
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3335[22:03:34] <sptnx> jmcnaught: i'm using puppet today for
patching and some other tasks but gonna do some research about
ansible and maybe can use it
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3337[22:03:38] <jhutchins_wk> phogg: Remember that anything in
Linux that is fully documented is also obsolete and depricated.
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3338[22:03:42] <phogg> jhutchins_wk: sure would be nice if there
were some central place to learn about all interfaces options for
all currently installed packages
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3339[22:03:49] <phogg> jhutchins_wk: touche
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3340[22:04:21] <jmcnaught> sptnx: you might not want to replace
puppet with it, but it might be enough to fill the gap between fresh
install and puppet ready
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3341[22:04:22] <jhutchins_wk> phogg: That's where the
generalised networking docs help some, they cover multiple pieces.
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3342[22:05:07] <jhutchins_wk> sptnx: Remember that puppet is
intended for repetitive reconfiguration or enforcement.
Ansible's a bit more flexible about doing fix-once chores.
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3346[22:06:15] <phogg> speaking more generally is there some kind
of common convention for situations like this where multiple
packages all share related docs that should be seen together?
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3352[22:07:47] <jhutchins_wk> Well, there's
"mount", which refers to the individual filesystem modules
for options specific to them.
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3355[22:08:50] <greycat> phogg: in an ideal world they would each
depend on foobar-doc
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3356[22:09:14] <greycat> or suggest or whatever the hell it is
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3359[22:10:05] <phogg> if only info existed and I could hyperlink
between manuals...
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3360[22:10:11] <phogg> thanks for the answers guys
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3385[22:15:49] <Hadron2> I'm trying to install Stretch on a
Dell R815 that has a PERC H200 (SAS2008) for an HBA.
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3387[22:16:42] <Hadron2> Lenny worked OK, but Stretch sees the
card, but doesn't initialize it. "mpt2sas_cm0: can't
allocate adapter memory"
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3391[22:17:49] <Hadron2> So far Google hasn't been helpful.
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3393[22:18:14] <Hadron2> I've flashed the card to the
lastest firmware, as well as two revs back.
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3395[22:19:11] <jhutchins_wk> Hadron2: What's the PCIID?
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3397[22:19:35] <jhutchins_wk> Hadron2: lspci -nn
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3398[22:20:24] <Hadron2> 'lspci -vvvvv' returns it as
"Dell PERC H200 Integrated"
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3406[22:23:03] <Hadron2> 05:00.0 Serial Attached SCSI controller
[0107]: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS2008 PCI-Express Fusion-MPT
SAS-2 (Falcon) [1000:0072] (rev 03)
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3412[22:24:15] <jhutchins_wk> , pciid 1000:0072
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3413[22:24:16] <judd> [1000:0072] is 'SAS2008 PCI-Express
Fusion-MPT SAS-2 [Falcon]' from 'LSI Logic / Symbios
Logic' with kernel module 'mpt2sas' in jessie. See
also
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3417[22:25:08] <Hadron2> 'dmesg | grep mpt2sas' returns
three lines. The last line is the 'can't allocate adapter
memory'.
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3423[22:27:14] <jhutchins_wk> Hadron2: Is there removable memory
on the card?
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3429[22:30:07] <Hadron2> Unknown, but doubtful. The machine is in
the middle of a rack. Would have to schedule a window to pull it out
and physically check.
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3440[22:33:24] <jhutchins_wk> Hadron2: So presumably it's
correctly installed and physically configured.
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3442[22:33:43] <jhutchins_wk> Hadron2: At this point I'm
afraid it's too hardware specific for me to be much help.
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3443[22:33:45] <Hadron2> jhutchins_wk The end goal here is to
evaluate Proxmox 5.x. When I asked the Proxmox guys about this, they
said they were based directly on Stretch, and to try that. I tried
the installers and the Live. None of them will init/use the card.
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3445[22:34:10] <Hadron2> It originally had Ubuntu Server 14.04 on
it and worked like a champ.
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