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7[00:03:18] <tomreyn> bolt: doh that's a really old
kernel you have there
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8[00:03:33] <tomreyn> bolt: if you like, show the output of:
apt-cache policy
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9[00:03:36] <missmbob> it's jessie's kernel
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10[00:03:39] <missmbob> you know...stable
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11[00:03:53] <tomreyn> built 2015-02-03
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12[00:03:58] <missmbob> yeah. jessie
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14[00:04:06] <tomreyn> that's not the latest kernel build
for jessie for sure
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16[00:04:07] <iKarith> Besides the encrypted and cached Jessie
install for the Core i7 I'm picking up tomorrow, I've got
another problem I'm working on: I'm going to be trying to
build customized "appliance", and ideally if I can build
the base only once (twice actually, amd64 and i686), that'd be
ideal. The end result should be a hard drive image that can be run
on real hardware or under either vmware or virtualbox.
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19[00:04:27] <missmbob> tomreyn: it is for most people. you can
add jessie-backports repository if you need
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20[00:04:30] <iKarith> I don't really have a
"question" yet about this, but I think I've
identified a few of the problems I'm going to face building it.
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22[00:05:27] <tomreyn> missmbob: version yes, patchlevel no
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24[00:05:44] <iKarith> First is that I'll need to install
tools for vmware and virtualbox and have them do their thing if
you're running under those hosts, or nothing if you're
not. I think each separately handles virtual vs. real hardware, but
I don't know if they'll try to clobber each other.
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25[00:06:34] <missmbob> tomreyn: you're wrong
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26[00:06:36] <tomreyn> HeXiLeD: what i accidentially addressed
to bolt above (sorry bolt), was actually meant for you.
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28[00:07:12] <tomreyn> missmbob: how do you know?
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30[00:07:26] <missmbob> tomreyn: because i'm looking up
the information instead of talking out of my ass
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31[00:07:27] <iKarith> Second is booting on real hardware. Safe
to assume i686 will use BIOS and a typical DOS MBR with grub
installed and everything. There were a few post-Pentium 4 systems
that shipped with EFI like the first Intel Macs, but AFAIK all of
those will boot off a MBR-formatted drive in some emulation
fallback.
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32[00:07:36] <HeXiLeD>
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33[00:07:42] <tomreyn> missmbob: heh you're a little rough
aren't you
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34[00:08:10] <missmbob> tomreyn: if you cant give proper
answers dont "guess". doesn't help anyone
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35[00:08:16] <tomreyn> HeXiLeD: thanks. that's short
indeed. you got no package sources.
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36[00:08:18] <iKarith> The 32 bit EFI Macs required you install
Boot Camp to do it, but if someone's trying to do that we can
walk them through it.
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37[00:09:18] <HeXiLeD> tomreyn: can i add them manually ?
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39[00:09:52] <iKarith> amd64 is a little harder.. The question
is can I come up with some way to set it up so that it'll do
the right thing depending on your system on amd64?
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48[00:14:28] <Fjorgynn> what is a samba domain controller ?
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50[00:15:06] <dolapevich> Fjorgynn: A samba instance configured
to work as a domain controller :)
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52[00:15:18] <dolapevich> domain controller is a M$ concept.
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53[00:15:36] <Guest48576> hello
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54[00:15:42] <dolapevich> Hello there.
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55[00:15:45] <vic> hi
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56[00:15:53] <Fjorgynn> but what is it good for?
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58[00:16:04] <Fjorgynn> saving all my documents on a server?
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62[00:17:01] <dolapevich> Fjorgynn: No clue, I know that it
used to be needed to allow unified Windows logins
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65[00:17:41] <dolapevich> your win machine used to login into
the domain controller, that set the perms in the whole network, I
thin it is still used to deploy policies in client machines
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67[00:18:06] <dolapevich> but I am not sure what changes
appeared with the active directory
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69[00:18:28] <dolapevich> in short, it allows to manage a
windows network as a whole.
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70[00:18:40] <dolapevich> Be carefull to not mistake the
"domain" part with a dns domain
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71[00:18:49] <Fjorgynn> aha
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72[00:19:08] <Fjorgynn> No I only know that we are using an
active directory at work
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78[00:22:49] <dolapevich> yeah, active directory is an ldap
server, and acts as the authentication backend for the PDC = Primary
domain controller.
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79[00:24:17] <dolapevich> I a client is logged into the domain
a single time, and uses a profile in active diectory for machine
authentication. the PDC admin can set policies to the client, and
let it do things, print, share authentication etc
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81[00:25:08] <dolapevich> samba used to be capable of acting
like a PDC, I am not sure if that is still possible. M$ didnt want
it and there were some issues.
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83[00:25:40] <Lionyx> Hello. I'm running an image of
debian on sdcard from a cromebook. Kernel is 3.4 and I get no sound
or touchpad mouse. Anybody able to help me?
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86[00:26:43] <missmbob> that's wheezy. you should upgrade
to jessie and maybe the new kernel will help
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87[00:27:19] <missmbob> !tell Lionyx -about wheezy->jessie
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88[00:27:34] <Lionyx> well, actually it's jessie.
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89[00:27:48] <missmbob> 3.4 is wheezy. how'd that happen?
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90[00:28:01] <Lionyx> noooo idea
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91[00:28:15] <appas> Lionyx: look into the touchpad make, you
might get help from the package synaptic, and/or libinput
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92[00:28:23] <Lionyx> jessie repo on i guess
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93[00:28:25] <missmbob> you certainly dont have full jessie.
you can follow the bot's instructions or pastebin your
sources.list
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94[00:29:29] <Lionyx> there are lots of packages that needs
newer udev and the udev needs something from kernel that isn't
compiled. And I cant manage to find or be able to install another
kernel. :(
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95[00:29:30] <dolapevich> there is a bunch of information about
debian and chromebooks in the internet
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98[00:29:51] <missmbob> yeah, because you didnt dist-upgrade to
jessie properly
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99[00:30:02] <dolapevich>
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100[00:30:58] <Lionyx> the problem is there's a bunch of
different chromebook hardware... I'm on a armhf one.
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101[00:31:01] <Lionyx> from samsung
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103[00:32:12] <Lionyx> I already have drivers from xorg
synaptics, a xorg.conf entry and nothing happens, I noticed that
when i wanted to install gpm (the mouse for console), the installer
complained not being able to find a /dev/input/mice our /dev/mouse
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104[00:32:23] <zinx> you can compile an armhf kernel from a
i686/amd64 debian machine
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105[00:32:28] <Aorious> Hi, is it possible to combine wget and
dpkg or gdebi, so that mktemp is not needed?
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108[00:33:34] <Lionyx> zinx: that's new to me
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109[00:33:34] <HeXiLeD> 2 debian OS stuck. one installing and
the other with anything./ bloody hell. How can i force dpkg
remove-essential to remove the package stuck ?
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111[00:34:13] <unborn> Lionyx: it would be stupid but I am going
to ask - is your standard debian image working on ; chrome-what ever
-hw you go?
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112[00:34:22] <Lionyx> zinx: also, is it possible to get the
image of the kernel ready to dd into my booting partition?
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114[00:34:47] <zinx> Lionyx: you can pull the zImage out of the
build
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115[00:34:53] <Lionyx> unborn: i have the image gotten from the
wiki debian chromebook arm samsung tutorial. that's kinda
working
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117[00:35:55] <Lionyx> zinx: is there a "how to"?
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119[00:36:04] <zinx> Lionyx: uhm, dunno!
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120[00:36:28] <zinx> Lionyx: but the basic idea is make ARCH=arm
instead of make :/
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121[00:36:31] <dolapevich> Aorious: What are you trying to
accomplish?
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127[00:38:25] <Aorious> dolapevich, Install packages via wget,
without creating a temporary directory to store the files, before
using dpkg -i.
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128[00:39:05] <unborn> Lionyx: that is the - why - I asked :)
sorry chap but I can support only official iso here..chromebooks are
novadays like samsung or lg or other crap.. each manufacturers have
its own crap to load.. so - give out the link you do have for your
chromebook - the offical one - the debian one :) - thanks.
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129[00:39:11] <Aorious> Can I use pipe packages into dpkg or
gdebi, from strout?
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131[00:41:07] <dolapevich> dpkg can download from the internet,
I think
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132[00:41:07] <dpkg> i don't know, dolapevich
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133[00:41:24] <tomreyn> missmbob: so, to continue our lovely
conversation from earlier... the latest build of 3.6.17 for stable
dates back to april 04 this year (stable-updates, to be precise
there is a later stable-security build).
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134[00:41:30] <dolapevich> let me try...
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137[00:41:46] <Lionyx> In this chromebook sd installs,
there's no grub, right? vmlinuz is dd(ed) to the boot
partition, and that's it?
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139[00:42:45] <unborn> :D well that said a lot..so there is
maybe no chromebook at all..
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140[00:42:46] <tomreyn> missmbob: i did not appreciate you
calling me wrong in an aggressive fashion, without providing any
resources to back up that claim. so here is mine:
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141[00:42:50] <unborn> just a spam
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143[00:43:30] <unborn> tomreyn: that is kind of normal here..
you will get used to it
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145[00:44:03] <Lionyx> I'm asking because I see no reason
why /boot should be in a separate partition in this case.
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146[00:44:37] <tomreyn> i've been around for a while, seen
this happen before but i like this channel to have a more positive
athmosphere than it sometimes has, so it's good to discuss
this.
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150[00:46:51] <tomreyn> HeXiLeD: since you said you have added
some lines to /etc/apt/sources.list, however apt-get update fails to
update due to this https issue, and thus you can't seem to
activate any sources. that's a bit of a circular dependency you
have there.
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151[00:47:07] <dolapevich> Aorious: dpkg takes a file
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160[00:48:57] <tomreyn> HeXiLeD: And I'm afraid I
dopn't know how to fix an apt in this state. Maybe clearing the
apt package cache state would help, not sure.
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162[00:49:29] <HeXiLeD> i have another problem in the other
machine. Ican take care of this later.
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164[00:49:37] <HeXiLeD> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must
manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
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165[00:49:39] <tomreyn> hehe, good luck
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166[00:49:41] <HeXiLeD> need to get rid of this
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167[00:49:52] <tomreyn> and running this does what?
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168[00:50:05] <HeXiLeD> the package that tries to configure gets
stuck and i dont need it.
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169[00:50:22] <tomreyn> then dpkg --purge it
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170[00:50:27] <HeXiLeD> just want to get rid of it
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172[00:51:21] <tomreyn> then apt-get -f install
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174[00:52:12] <HeXiLeD> dang.. i always get stuff with this
package binfmt-support
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175[00:52:18] <HeXiLeD> stays there forever
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178[00:53:14] <HeXiLeD> cant even abort it. have the kill the
pids
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183[00:54:58] <Lionyx> I remember when installing from scratch
that I was prompted if I wanted to get my user to be an admin. How
to i set it manually?
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187[00:56:39] <Aorious> dolapevich, Does it take a package or
URLs. How?
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195[00:57:26] <sideup66> hey room
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197[00:57:44] <tomreyn> Lionyx: i assume what you are trying to
do is to be able to run administrative commands as your standard
user using sudo
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198[00:57:56] <sideup66> i got my autostart working, but here is
another question, is there a way at shutdown to have a command
issued, it seems that when the os shuts down, its not issueing my
virtualbox autostart service a stop control
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199[00:58:11] <tomreyn> Lionyx: if so, try this: sudo adduser
YOURUSEWRNAMEGOESHERE sudo # and then logout and login again.
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203[01:00:23] <mtcj> If you just add yourself to the wheel group
I want to say that's sufficient to get sudo privileges.
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208[01:01:48] <Lionyx> tomreyn: tks but no. I'm trying to
write on something inside /sys/class without having sudo. Like I do
in my home desktop
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212[01:02:54] <mtcj> Lionyx do you want to just have root
privileges all the time?
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213[01:03:13] <mtcj> Or perhaps privs for that file all the
time?
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215[01:03:51] <Lionyx> mtcj: only to that file
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216[01:04:24] <Lionyx> but it is in /sys, so chmod is not
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anyways guys
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312[01:46:12] <neilthereildeil> im following this:
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315[01:46:43] <neilthereildeil> yes they are installed, but for
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316[01:46:59] <Whitelye> anyone know why I might get this error
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GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.FailedToSetup: Failed
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318[01:47:04] <neilthereildeil> i need to rebuild the driver for
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328[01:51:30] <missmbob> !kali
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329[01:51:30] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
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330[01:51:34] <Kwll> Hello
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331[01:51:51] <frzr> !bali
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332[01:51:59] <Kwll> is this debian support chat?
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333[01:52:16] <missmbob> yes
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335[01:52:37] <Kwll> awesome
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337[01:53:02] <Kwll> how do I go about getting the firmware for
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338[01:53:20] <missmbob> which wireless? lspci -nn and pastebin
the output
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347[01:56:51] <Kwll> pastebin
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348[01:56:56] <Kwll> 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel
Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6230 [Rainbow Peak] [8086:0091] (rev
34) 04:00.0 USB controller [0c03]: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0
Host Controller [1033:0194] (rev 04) 0a:00.0 Ethernet controller
[0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI
Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06)
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351[01:57:21] <Kwll> ethernet got installed...lol but it said i
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354[01:57:41] <Kwll> was an idoit and didnt write it down....was
wondering if there is a error log from the install
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358[01:59:28] <missmbob> Kwll: you also didn't do what i
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359[02:01:13] <Kwll> ok
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360[02:01:19] <Kwll> what is next
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362[02:01:35] <missmbob> nothing's next if you dont show us
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374[02:03:56] <Kwll> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 2nd
Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller [8086:0104] (rev
09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd
Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port [8086:0101]
(rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation
2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Con
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375[02:04:01] <missmbob> no fool
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376[02:04:04] <Kwll> lol
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377[02:04:04] <missmbob> !paste
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378[02:04:05] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
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379[02:04:14] <Kwll> !paste 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 2nd
Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller [8086:0104] (rev
09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd
Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port [8086:0101]
(rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation
2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graph
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380[02:04:14] <dpkg> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 2nd
Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller [8086:0104] (rev
09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd
Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port [8086:0101]
(rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation
2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graph: put your
output on ...
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381[02:04:18] <missmbob> jesus
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382[02:04:21] <Kwll> grrrr
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387[02:04:29] <Kwll> I can
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388[02:04:33] <Kwll> first time here
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389[02:04:36] <uniTosch> let's skip this. iwlwifi is what
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391[02:05:09] <missmbob> Kwll: when you pasted it in
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392[02:05:22] <Kwll> oh....*facepalm*
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395[02:06:25] <Kwll> paste.debian.net/806587
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397[02:06:46] <ryouma> Kwll: if you do the http part also,
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400[02:07:29] <missmbob> ,pciid 8086:0091
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401[02:07:31] <judd> [8086:0091] is 'Centrino Advanced-N
6230 [Rainbow Peak]' from 'Intel Corporation' with
kernel modules 'iwlwifi', 'ata_generic',
'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also
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402[02:07:36] <Kwll>
replaced-url
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403[02:07:38] <missmbob> heh. go to that iwlwifi wiki ^
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405[02:08:31] <uniTosch> Kwll: you are connected through
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408[02:08:54] <Kwll> yes
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411[02:09:22] <uniTosch> okayo, then the wiki instructions for
jessie it is.
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415[02:12:45] <Kwll> how do you remove the read only flag on the
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416[02:13:00] <missmbob> Kwll: you enter it as root (or sudo)
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419[02:14:31] <missmbob> Kwll: might what to show us what you
change it to. paste that before you apt-get update
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429[02:21:20] <Kwll> wow
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430[02:21:23] <Kwll> thank you so much
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431[02:21:27] <Kwll> its on a working
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432[02:21:34] <Kwll> you guys are amzaing
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434[02:22:53] <sideup66> hey room can anyone help me with
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435[02:22:56] <sideup66> been on for a bit working on this
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437[02:23:16] <sideup66> im setting up virtualbox from repos to
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438[02:23:45] <sideup66> except now for some reason when i try
to pass it a start control it does nothing from service
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439[02:24:01] <sideup66> but if i execute
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464[02:36:39] <mtcj> Has anyone here used LTSP thin clients with
nvidia-driver in the chroot? I notice that the VirtualBox drivers in
a chroot for clients work pretty great but nvidia-driver reliably
crashes Cinnamon upon login.
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467[02:38:22] <mtcj> I have not tested the driver outside of a
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468[02:38:46] <mtcj> And I've tried both jessie and
jessie-backports versions.
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475[02:43:07] <sideup66> nothing when i execute it mtcj
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478[02:43:47] <mtcj> Hmm that's odd
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479[02:43:58] <sideup66> but if i path to
/etc/rc.d/vboxautoservice start it will accept the start control and
startup
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480[02:43:59] <mtcj> It should say something at leas
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481[02:44:16] <sideup66> yes at that point with the absolute
path it would say its starting configured vms
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482[02:44:28] <mtcj> Is the service installed so
"service" can use it?
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483[02:44:39] <sideup66> sorry* vboxautostart-service is the
name
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485[02:44:43] <mtcj> I don't know if there's a special
step involved
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486[02:44:57] <sideup66> and not sure, i put it there as root
and ran rc.d vboxautostart-service start
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487[02:45:05] <sideup66> im thinking something there is missing
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489[02:45:28] <sideup66> it is something for virtualbox, script
is from them, but it was added in by me as its not included in
jessie repos
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491[02:46:03] <sideup66> im not sure what the process is to
ensure service can run it
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492[02:46:59] <mtcj> Try typing man service and see if it says
anything about installing services
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494[02:47:45] <mtcj> I don't know if it says anything to be
honest I'm not at a machine right now
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515[02:59:36] <tom99> well I found out what happens when you
mindlessly type "apt-get install pastebinit" then y ENTER
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517[02:59:51] <tom99> you end up downloading a bunch of python3
libs because i guess pastebinit is in python3
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530[03:06:38] <Kwll> hey all again...I havea quick question
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533[03:07:14] <Kwll> I am trying to install wordpress and the
webserver...I used the gui package installerbt claims it get a hold
of the respority
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534[03:07:25] <Kwll> ...I uncommeted them in the sources.list
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535[03:07:35] <Kwll> do i need to use the terminal for this?
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540[03:09:03] <tom99> i don't know Kwll, I always assume
linux will not do what I want graphically and keep a command prompt
open at all times
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541[03:09:59] <Kwll> hahaha
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542[03:10:23] <tom99> lol not even joking
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543[03:10:35] <tom99> I wanted to add a desktop shortcut to my
debian desktop in gnome3. No way to do it
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544[03:10:48] <sideup66> does anyone know anything about
vboxautostart script for debian
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545[03:10:52] <sideup66> i have no clue what im missing
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546[03:10:57] <tom99> technically I did find a way to do it
though
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547[03:10:59] <Kwll> i see....gosh darn it
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548[03:11:02] <tom99> so that may not vbe the best example
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549[03:11:07] <Kwll> apt-get got locked again
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550[03:11:14] <tom99> I had to find a setting in the graphical
menu to enable the file explorer to "take control"
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551[03:11:18] <tom99> it sounded scary but I clicked yes
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552[03:11:20] <Kwll> .....over at mint they tell you to never
use term
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553[03:11:30] <Kwll> use package installer
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554[03:11:31] <tom99> haha maybe i'll try mint then
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555[03:11:47] <tom99> sideup66: What are you trying to do? I use
debian in virtualbox.
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556[03:11:50] <Kwll> I am stealing my friend from windows
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558[03:12:04] <Kwll> so I got sarah and rosa on here for him to
use
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559[03:12:17] <Kwll> ....trying to build our webserver on this
one tho...read its far easier
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560[03:12:30] <sideup66> tom99, im configuring a virtual machine
to autostart with the system
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562[03:12:40] <sideup66> and ive installed the service and it
works...if i call it directly to its path
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564[03:12:51] <sideup66> however, if i use service
vboxautostart-service start it does nothing
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565[03:12:56] <missmbob> running a gui on a server is beyond
stupid
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567[03:13:05] <missmbob> !bat
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568[03:13:05] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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569[03:13:07] <sideup66> same with systemctl start
vboxautoservice-service
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570[03:13:12] <missmbob> do that if you want help
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571[03:13:16] <sideup66> missmbob, its not gui
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572[03:13:19] <sideup66> this is headless ;)
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573[03:13:29] <missmbob> i was talking to Kwll
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575[03:13:57] <sideup66> oh
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576[03:13:58] <tom99> oh ok. i'm using windows with debian
as the guest in the virtual machine
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578[03:14:30] <sideup66> thank you though
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580[03:14:35] <sideup66> im just stumped why it wont execute
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582[03:14:52] <tom99> windows 10?
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584[03:14:55] <sideup66> cant reboot at the moment but can test
with command
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585[03:14:57] <tom99> i don't know how to manage services
on windows
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586[03:15:04] <sideup66> its linux
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587[03:15:16] <johnkeates> no, it's patrick
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588[03:15:19] <sideup66> the host is linux, guest is winxp, i
run googlephotosbackup, wine works, but chokes on a big library
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589[03:15:25] <tom99> er right
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590[03:15:29] <sideup66> but xp can run it, so using that in my
local lan as small footprint
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593[03:16:10] <sideup66> id just rather not have the machine
boot it, then anytime the host reboots or shuts down, windows xp
goes down rough
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594[03:16:15] <sideup66> not good for it after a while
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607[03:28:46] <insecurity> i need help with name resolution.
after connecting to my work VPN with openvpn, i'm using network
manager to change the dns server to that of the remote network to
resolve names on that network. using nslookup then server shows the
right one, and resolving remote hosts works through nslookup, but
things like "ping" are not resolving the names.
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616[03:34:20] <vvande> I guess you don't have access to the
VPN server, so you should probably look at the client.conf file
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619[03:35:06] <vvande> I think dhcp-option is what could do it.
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629[03:44:12] <insecurity> yeah i added that but it didn't
actually do anything, that's why i'm now adding it
manually
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631[03:45:01] <insecurity> is it because it's not a real
fqdn i wonder? all the hostnames i'm trying to resolve is
companyname.local
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643[03:50:06] <vvande> insecurity: oh, so they're non
routable addresses you're trying to resolve? well that would be
the problem right there. :)
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644[03:51:06] <vvande> I solve that problem in my router by
adding a separate list there. not sure how you could do that in your
case though
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649[03:52:26] <insecurity> well the addresses are ultimately rfc
1918 if that's what you mean
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650[03:52:42] <insecurity> but under nslookup, the names resolve
to the right non-routable IPs
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651[03:52:58] <insecurity> my issue is that nothing else on this
system is resolving those IPs
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652[03:53:03] <insecurity> ie, ping, firefox etc.
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664[04:00:30] <mugatu---> Is there a way to configure
xserver-xorg-video-intel settings similar to the windows intel hd
control panel? I didn't see a config file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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665[04:00:41] <mugatu---> I want performance over quality
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666[04:01:00] <johnkeates> no
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668[04:01:03] <mugatu---> =[
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669[04:01:27] <mugatu---> my fps doesn't compare to
winblows this is awful
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670[04:01:37] <johnkeates> yeah, it's a known issue
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671[04:01:48] <johnkeates> sad but not something that's
controlled by a setting somewhere
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proprietary drivers, but there's only a package for ubuntu
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678[04:04:11] <bazhang> mugatu---, fglrx?
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680[04:04:37] <johnkeates> you can get the source driver install
off of intel's site
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685[04:06:24] <bazhang> most of the intel drivers stuff is
already in a kernel module
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686[04:06:39] <johnkeates> yep
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687[04:06:53] <johnkeates> like it said, not much to do
performance-wise
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688[04:07:02] <sideup66> can anyone look at this script and tell
me why systemctl nor service commands wont work with it?
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689[04:07:04] <sideup66>
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690[04:07:11] <bazhang> you wont be getting 60fps on crysis with
an intel chip
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693[04:08:36] <mdlpe> hi, I'm searching a raid enclosure
for 2 hd 6tb, an advise ?
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694[04:08:49] <johnkeates> don't do it, get a NAS instead
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695[04:09:00] <johnkeates> or maybe eSATA if you are desperate
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697[04:09:36] <mdlpe> i don't want NAS
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698[04:09:54] <johnkeates> what do you want
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699[04:09:57] <bazhang> Im surprised raid is even considered
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701[04:10:28] <mdlpe> raid0/1/jbod usb3 2x6tb sata
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702[04:10:42] <bazhang> ask in ##hardware mdlpe
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703[04:10:45] <johnkeates> that's a terrible idea
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704[04:10:47] <johnkeates> don't do that
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705[04:10:57] <johnkeates> no raid0, no usb-raid controller
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707[04:11:00] <bazhang> its what he wants though
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709[04:11:05] <johnkeates> no it's not
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710[04:11:10] <mdlpe> johnkeates: why ?
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711[04:11:11] <bazhang> heh
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712[04:11:13] <johnkeates> he thinks Y is the solution to X
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713[04:11:18] <johnkeates> i want to know his X
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714[04:11:22] <johnkeates> not a fitting for his Y
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715[04:11:32] <bazhang> ftp is his x
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723[04:17:40] <insecurity> ok i'm using
/etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf which is populating resolv.conf when
i bring up the tunnel. problem is, the only thing that's
actually adhering to resolv.conf is nslookup. what givers?
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724[04:17:43] <insecurity> -r
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727[04:18:03] <insecurity> is this some network-manager
weirdness?
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731[04:20:44] <Capum321> hello, a bash script with `sudo rtcwake
--seconds 60 --mode disk` doesn't wake. it actually sets the
time to wake up to 3 hours from the moment i ran the script?
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778[04:53:44] <breedx> newish machine, upgrading from testing
-> sid broke wifi (bcm43602) with network manager going from
1.2.4-2 to 1.4.0-3.
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779[04:54:00] <breedx> it looks like the new version is always
trying to set/change the mac before connecting.
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781[04:54:15] <breedx> and it gets into some weird state that
refuses to connect. It was fine on the older version of network
manager.
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798[05:04:43] <breedx> answering self (after a day of
troubleshooting) -- issue is captured in bug #835822 and the
NetworkManager.conf workaround described here worked for me!
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799[05:04:44] <judd> Bug
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807[05:09:06] <superglue> superglue
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815[05:13:53] <insecurity> insecurity
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817[05:15:43] <Capum321> hello
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819[05:16:54] <Capum321>
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822[05:19:05] <superglue> Capum321: paste is children's
glue
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823[05:19:09] <superglue> use SUPER GLUE instead
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825[05:19:46] <superglue> you spray superglue on a nigger and
they get stuck up your daughter when they rape her
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826[05:19:57] <Capum321> did you eat super glue a LOT,
didn't you?
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827[05:20:04] <superglue> because niggers who get high off of
sniffing glue, rape pwople
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829[05:20:11] <superglue> Capum321: never
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830[05:20:57] <Capum321> also known as shoe maker glue
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832[05:23:20] <superglue> Capum321: no more raping your mother!
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833[05:23:25] <superglue> I glued her pussy shut
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834[05:23:29] <superglue> with SUPER GLUEÄŽ
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844[05:31:06] <_unreal_> is there some event going on tonight
that I dont know about? every channel I'm on even different
servers is dead
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846[05:31:26] <superglue> lolololol
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848[05:31:45] <superglue> its the annual "rape
_unreal_'s mom" party
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849[05:31:49] <superglue> a global event
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850[05:32:11] <superglue> _unreal_: that may be distracting ppl
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851[05:32:13] <monoxane> It's fathers day in half the world
iirc
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852[05:32:21] <monoxane> At least it is here in Aus
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853[05:32:33] <_unreal_> my munchkin is sound asleep
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855[05:33:27] <_unreal_> well, toying with what OS to install on
my laptop
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856[05:33:43] <monoxane> Debian?
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859[05:33:58] * monoxane has Debian on everything
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860[05:34:04] <_unreal_> on a suggestion I tried ubuntu mate i
HATE IT..... downloading the latest debian currently
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861[05:34:18] <monoxane> Lol
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862[05:34:35] <sideup66> anyone know anything about virtualbox
in debian
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863[05:34:36] <sideup66> ?
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864[05:34:38] <monoxane> Afk, bloody grandparents are trying to
talk to me....
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865[05:34:44] <monoxane> sideup66: it works
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866[05:34:50] <monoxane> That's all I know
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867[05:34:51] <_unreal_> I tried debian on my cubox, but there
are no repositores for it :(
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868[05:35:10] <sideup66> monoxane, oh ok, im having a problem
with the service file for the autostart
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869[05:35:33] <sideup66> starts up ok, but if i 1. try to call
it with service blah start it does nothing, same on shutdown
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871[05:35:47] <sideup66> and 2. on shutdown it does not trigger
a proper vm shutdown, just shuts down the machine and rude kills it
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872[05:36:15] <_unreal_> rude kill?
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874[05:36:45] <sideup66> yes, just kills the vm process without
shutting down the guest which it is configured for
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880[05:37:43] <_unreal_> interesting
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899[05:52:07] <jim> any chance there's newer info than on
udd about pciid 14e4:4365? like which module it needs?
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900[05:52:22] <jim> judd doesn't know
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904[05:53:29] <Ansem> why is debian so awesome?
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906[05:53:54] <Ansem> i distro hop'd for the past 2 months
never once trying debian thinking it sucked due to aincient packages
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908[05:54:04] <Ansem> but past 2-3 weeks debian sid has worked
just fine for me
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910[05:54:05] <jim> oh, it does? does it say what is the
earliest version of the driver that supports it?
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911[05:54:14] <missmbob> !tell Ansem about debian-next
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912[05:54:26] <Ansem> lol wut is that?
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914[05:54:36] <missmbob> Ansem: see what the bot told you
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915[05:54:47] <missmbob> jim: lists jessie as the first
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916[05:55:03] <Ansem> oh
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918[05:55:12] <Ansem> i dont need support
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919[05:55:18] <Ansem> just sayin how debian is coolio
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920[05:55:21] <missmbob> i know. was just telling you for future
reference
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921[05:55:23] <Ansem> i ran stable for a bit
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922[05:55:30] <Ansem> i know its no problem lel
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923[05:55:53] <jim> Ansem, you might consider stable for things
like servers
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924[05:56:34] <Ansem> it seems quite usable for desktop aswell,
programs i wanted to be latest i just compiled from source, rest is
fine as long as it works
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925[05:56:47] <jim> (you don't want the problems sid can
bring (is -allowed- to bring) to an important server
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926[05:56:52] <jim> )
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927[05:56:57] <Ansem> but sorry for bothering you i just wanted
to share it with the world :^)
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928[05:57:08] <missmbob> Ansem: jessie-backports is generally
good enough so you can get newer packages without compiling
yourself.
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929[05:57:22] <jim> Ansem, just sayin
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930[05:57:54] <Ansem> like i said, if sid ever breaks completely
i'll just do a fresh stable install
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931[05:58:05] <Ansem> might enable testing repos instead of
using stable ones tho
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932[05:58:27] <Ansem> since i use it primarily as desktop
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937[06:01:22] <sideup66> hmmm can anyone help me troubleshoot an
init script issue im having
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938[06:02:15] <sideup66> this script,
replaced-url
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944[06:05:02] <superglue> lolol
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945[06:05:52] <mtcj> ololo
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947[06:06:39] <superglue> i m here for the lulz
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948[06:06:55] <superglue> lets play a game called, "Glue it
to the nigger"
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951[06:07:04] <mtcj> Um
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952[06:07:09] <superglue> its where you superglue stolen stuff
to a nigger
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953[06:07:13] <superglue> and call the cops on them
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955[06:07:50] <jmcnaught> !ops superglue racism
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956[06:07:50] <dpkg> Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH,
mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel,
zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jmcnaught
complains about: superglue racism
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958[06:08:10] <jmcnaught> sideup66: can you make a paste of
/etc/default/virtualbox?
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960[06:08:15] <missmbob> i tried like an hour ago. ops are
sleeping i guess
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961[06:08:29] <missmbob> /ignore ftw
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962[06:08:35] <mtcj> Still having issues with the
vboxautostart-service service?
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963[06:08:36] <themill> superglue: grow up, thanks
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964[06:08:40] <sideup66> sure jmcnaught
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965[06:08:47] <superglue> jmcnaught: NIGGER DETECTED!
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966[06:08:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o themill
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967[06:08:55] <superglue> NIGGER ALERT! NIGGER ALERT!
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nobody can hear you being subtle.)
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973[06:09:25] <mtcj> Was something he said subtle? I thought it
was really loud.
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974[06:09:33] <sideup66> jmcnaught,
replaced-url
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975[06:09:37] <_unreal_> really? I didnt hear a thing
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979[06:10:03] <mtcj> Must have been the wind.
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983[06:10:15] <sideup66> also jmcnaught i renamed the service to
just vboxautostart and re rc.d'd it, and the start control
seemed to work
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985[06:10:51] <sideup66> nevermind
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986[06:10:53] <sideup66> same condition
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988[06:11:21] <superglue> NIGGER ALERT! NIGGER ALERT!
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989[06:11:22] <superglue> NIGGER ALERT! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
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991[06:11:25] <superglue> ALL HANDS: BATTLE STATIONS! THIS IS
NOT A DRILL!
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992[06:11:28] <superglue> NIGGER ALERT! NIGGER ALERT!
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993[06:11:38] <superglue> Target: themill
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1000[06:11:56] <preaction> themill: they've got a few IPs,
might want to also ban the nick and user
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1001[06:12:10] <preaction> they've been trying to get their
+v back in #freenode for an hour or so
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1002[06:12:11] * themill is well aware
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1003[06:12:24] <jmcnaught> sideup66: thanks. so at line 109 of
the init script is the stop function, and it's doing something
for each user that has a /etc/vbox/*.conf file
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1004[06:12:29] <_unreal_> themill, em good ;)
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1005[06:12:40] <jmcnaught> sideup66: also are you using sysvinit
or systemd?
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1009[06:13:23] <sideup66> systemd jmcnaught
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1012[06:14:02] <_unreal_> downloading the debian DVDs right now,
this is going to take a while
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1013[06:14:08] <jmcnaught> sideup66: what did you rename, and
what is "re rc.d'd"?
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1015[06:14:57] <sideup66> i renamed the script name from
vboxautostart-service to vboxautostart then ran update-rc.d on it
accordingly
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1016[06:15:13] <jmcnaught> sideup66: i don't use virtualbox,
but there might be an explanation of how the init script is supposed
to work its documentation
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1017[06:15:34] <sideup66> i had also found a simpler alternate
script as well im tempted to try
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1018[06:16:05] <jmcnaught> sideup66: but the problem could just
be that VMs take a long time to shutdown.. maybe you could try
keeping a console or ssh open on the VMs during shutdown to see
what's happening, or check their logs
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1020[06:17:07] <jmcnaught> sideup66: wait, does that script come
with the Debian package? with systemd you might as well start using
the systemctl command instead of update-rc.d and service
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1021[06:18:06] <sideup66> nono jmcnaught i execute the shutdown
without powering the system off with service vboxautostart-service
stop command
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1022[06:18:20] <sideup66> and no it does not jmcnaught thats why
im lost, im wondering if something isnt right
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1023[06:18:35] <sideup66> its an extra from virtualbox, but those
are the install instructions, what i originally did with it
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1025[06:18:56] <tom99> can you run update-rc.d on something that
isn't the format of LSB or whatever it is
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1030[06:20:23] <tom99> like Required-Start and Required-Stop and
those?
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1031[06:20:41] <jmcnaught> sideup66: where did the extra init
script come from? i use libvirt which doesn't require and fancy
tricks to autostart or autoshutdown VMs
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1033[06:21:36] <sideup66> came from here:
replaced-url
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1034[06:21:43] <sideup66> and never heard of libvirt
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1038[06:22:09] <jmcnaught> sideup66: are you using the Debian
packages for virtualbox?
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1039[06:22:13] <sideup66> yes
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1041[06:23:53] <sideup66> is there some weird incompatibility
going on? by what i researched, that feature had been around since
4.2, jessie's current version of the program is 4.38
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1042[06:24:40] <jmcnaught> sideup66: you should look in the
virtualbox package's /usr/share/doc/ directory to see if
there's notes about Debian specific changes
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1045[06:26:09] <Rusty1_> and there is #vbox channel
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1046[06:26:34] <sideup66> im tempted to try the script found here
first honestly:
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1047[06:26:45] <sideup66> Rusty1_, tried that one already, they
send me back here because its from debian
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1048[06:26:47] <sideup66> =|
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1050[06:28:55] <sideup66> jmcnaught, i thought it would be fine
with virtualbox honestly, my needs for it are simple
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1051[06:29:22] <sideup66> run 1 vm headlessly, autostart and shut
down, and give me easy access (setup the rdp function to do that,
easy to check on it that way from my windows box)
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1053[06:30:21] <Rusty1_> i remember respawn, inittab
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1054[06:30:39] <Rusty1_> man init might have it
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1056[06:33:09] <sideup66> hmmm
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1057[06:33:10] <sideup66> brb
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1058[06:33:12] <sideup66> rebooting again
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1064[06:38:58] <klys> is there a channel devoted to a terminal
emulator or coding for one
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1065[06:39:31] <_unreal_> ?
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1066[06:39:49] <_unreal_> klys, thats a rather wide question
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1067[06:40:06] <klys> I want to find someone who is knowledgeable
about terminal emulation
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1070[06:41:15] <Rusty1_> what terminal do you want to emulate?
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1071[06:41:29] <klys> ansi, vt100, or linux would be fine
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1073[06:42:48] <ryouma> klys: please fix blinking
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1075[06:42:58] <ryouma> i.e. make cursor not blink
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1077[06:45:04] <klys> rouma, you need a terminal emulator whose
cursor doesn't blink? not too difficult to find; aterm works
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1081[06:45:55] <jmcnaught> sideup66: it looks to me like the
/etc/init.d/virtuabox included with the Debian virtualbox package
already implements auto shutdown
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1084[06:46:33] <jmcnaught> sideup66: so you don't need to
use that script, just set SHUTDOWN_USERS in /etc/default/virtualbox
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1094[06:51:43] <sideup66> what do you mean jmcnaught
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1095[06:52:32] <sideup66> ohhh
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1097[06:52:47] <jmcnaught> sideup66: there's no need for a
thirdparty script. if you read the virtualbox init script you can
see what it does with that SHUTDOWN_USERS variable
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1098[06:52:47] <sideup66> you mean change foo bar in
/etc/default/virtualbox to the user that is allowed to?
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1101[06:53:35] <tom99> I don't have that
/etc/init.d/virtualbox
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1102[06:54:07] <tom99> just vboxadd, vboxadd-service, vboxadd-x11
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1104[06:55:17] <jmcnaught> tom99: maybe you're not using the
Debian package, or the package is different after jessie
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1105[06:55:28] <sideup66> ohhhhhh i think i see jmcnaught
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1106[06:55:43] <sideup66> ok so if i specify that in settings the
shutdown of the main service alone will do it
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1107[06:55:51] <sideup66> but what do you set is the next ? or
some example
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1108[06:55:56] <tom99> what's the difference between an ansi
and a vt 100 terminal
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1109[06:56:08] <tom99> I'm on wheezy by the way jmc
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1111[06:56:53] <zorg24> Why does it say #debian-next is invite
only when I try to join it?
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1112[06:57:14] <jmcnaught> sideup66: i didn't look closely
enough at the virtualbox init script to see if it supports autostart
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1113[06:57:30] <jmcnaught> zorg24: that channel is on
irc.oftc.net
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1114[06:57:43] <tom99> oftc sounds like... off-topic! XD
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1117[06:57:52] <zorg24> jmcnaught, oh derp thanks
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1118[06:58:07] <klys> tom99, there are differences in which
escape codes are processed and how hey are processed, those
differences are documented in the wikis.
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1119[06:58:14] <sideup66> jmcnaught, it may need both then
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1120[06:58:38] <sideup66> if i configure the shutdown it should
shut down the vm and the start script will start it
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1121[06:58:47] <tom99> vt100 was an actual physical terminal
though.
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1122[06:58:52] <tom99> was ansi as well
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1127[07:00:26] <jmcnaught> sideup66: yeah i don't see
anything about autostarting VMs in the virtualbox init script. i
would still consider using libvirt instead, it can even control
virtualbox VMs (it has the best integration with KVM though)
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1128[07:00:56] <sideup66> ill keep it in mind jmcnaught like i
said i found a simpler variant of the official script im going to
try
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1129[07:01:04] <sideup66> may be something in its syntax that
isnt cooperating
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1131[07:02:06] <klys> tom99. ansi terminals are a standard. dos
ansi.sys complied with that standard.
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1133[07:05:21] <sideup66> jmcnaught, impressively it seems the
simpler script works
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1134[07:05:25] <sideup66> its quick and dirty method, but it
works
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1135[07:05:32] <sideup66> ill take simple and working over fancy
and not
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1137[07:08:02] <sideup66> brb again
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1138[07:08:04] <sideup66> testing a reboot
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1139[07:08:23] <sideup66> wanna make sure os goes down
gracefully, im reading some people have a delay in the script if the
computer goes off too quick
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1143[07:13:01] <zorg24> Is their a good trick for fixing that
when I do "apt upgrade" I get a rather long list of
packages that will be kept back, its mostly a bunch of libboost and
a few other things?
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1144[07:14:03] <missmbob> so you're not running stable?
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1145[07:14:33] <themill> zorg24: that would be a sign that you
need to dist-upgrade
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1146[07:14:42] <zorg24> missmbob, me no I'm testing I just
asked here b/c I didn't think it'd matter
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1147[07:15:12] <themill> the same problem can also happen in
stable, it's just quite rare
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1148[07:15:54] <zorg24> oh ok I'll give that a try then
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1159[07:21:47] <sideup66> jmcnaught, well that second script did
it
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1160[07:21:50] <sideup66> works as advertised
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1162[07:22:05] <sideup66> added a sleep timer too it too which
gives it enough time to shut down (15 seconds)
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1163[07:26:23] <sideup66> i think it was not handling the start
and stop controls correctly
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1164[07:26:27] <sideup66> anyway
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1165[07:26:29] <sideup66> that is done
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1167[07:26:40] <sideup66> phew, onto the next project which is
setting up email with exim through gmail
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1168[07:26:41] <sideup66> :p
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1191[07:48:05] <ordinate> hey yall, i got a problem. been trying
to install debian 8.50 on my win10 machine for the past 4 hours.
onto my question, im getting a windows boot manager error after
going through the windows setup application
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1194[07:49:21] <tom99> what windows setup application?
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1196[07:49:51] <ordinate> i put the iso file onto my usb stick
using rufus
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1197[07:50:04] <ordinate> and i got a neat filesystem with an
application that says "setup"
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1198[07:50:20] <themill> which mode did you use in rufus?
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1199[07:50:31] <ordinate> default ISO
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1200[07:50:38] <ordinate> FAT32
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1201[07:50:46] <themill> yeah, that doesn't work
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1205[07:51:25] <ordinate> boot error says i'm missing a .mbr
file
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1206[07:51:56] <themill> I've heard its "dd" mode
should work; we normally recommend using win32diskimager if you
don't already have a linux install to use
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1207[07:51:56] <ordinate> before this i mounted the iso onto the
usb stick with Win32DiskImage with FAT
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1208[07:52:16] <ordinate> got to advanced booting and got kicked
into win10 each time
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1210[07:53:24] <ordinate> i think i was supposed to get a
"boot with EFI something" button but all i got was
"USB Floppy/CD" and other dumb shit
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1212[07:57:07] <ordinate> tried remounting in DD mode, now it
doesn't show up on file explorer
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1224[08:01:46] <choice> Had the current Debian installer the
option to install into an encrypted partition, or is encryption only
supported when doing a full-disk install?
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1225[08:01:53] <choice> s/Had/Has
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1237[08:04:13] <ordinate> that didn't work
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1247[08:07:35] <hk238> hi
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1249[08:09:05] <choice> Hi hk238
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1251[08:10:00] <hk238> tried switching to Gnome DE from XFCE
after installing debian just yesterday, and I'm having trouble
finding out ways to configure the default look
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1252[08:10:21] <hk238> is there some stuff I need to install from
terminal or something? Or something like that?
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1254[08:11:46] <han-solo> "what you see is what you
get"
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1255[08:12:05] <choice> hk238: What do you eant to configure?
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1261[08:15:18] <hk238> oh sorry I got distracted
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1262[08:15:30] <hk238> well pretty much anything, or everything
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1263[08:15:32] <hk238> >D
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1264[08:15:39] <hk238> sorry keyboard layout changed
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1265[08:15:48] <choice> hk238: Well, that's not specific
enough to help you.
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1266[08:16:16] <hk238> well for an example I've yet to find
how I change the window style like they dont have the minimize keys
yet :d
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1267[08:17:07] <choice> hk238: "minimize keys"?
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1268[08:17:13] <hk238> in the upper right corner?
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1269[08:17:29] <hk238> you normally have minimize, maximize,
close... so onw it's just close :o
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1270[08:17:30] <choice> hk238: keys are those plastic things on
your keyboard.
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1271[08:18:14] <hk238> oh ?
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1272[08:19:06] <choice> hk238: I have the feeling you mean the
buttons in the windows title bars.
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1273[08:19:10] <han-solo> it's buttons :) in your DE
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1274[08:19:20] <hk238> yes :d
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1275[08:19:21] <hk238> :D
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1277[08:19:38] <choice> hk238: Also I have the feeling you
installed Gnome Shell.
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1278[08:19:48] <hk238> like I dont know how the system works in
linux in general.. like do i have to install some configuration
applications?
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1279[08:20:07] <hk238> yeah that's probably the case, I used
tasksel to install `... gnome`
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1280[08:20:16] <choice> hk238: Gnome Shell is a weird desktop
environment that mimics mobile interface.
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1281[08:20:32] <choice> hk238: You might want to try the Mate
desktop.
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1282[08:20:38] <hk238> yeah it definitely seems a little weird,
but it looks good
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1283[08:20:49] <hk238> and It has the clock in the middle of the
topbar, which I couldnt figure out how to do on XCFE
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1284[08:21:07] <hk238> so I thought I'd give gnome another
try.. or I'm not following exactly what's what
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1286[08:21:31] <hk238> but I want to set up some panels, some
features, and control colors and how things look.. and come out with
a nice looking and convenient interface, however I dont know how
adjust stuff for now :D
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1287[08:22:34] <choice> hk238: Well, when the Gnome team built
this atrocious "make the desktop look and behave like a mobile
phone" thing called "Gnome Shell" or "Gnome
3" or whatever it is called, I said goodby to their stuff.
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1288[08:22:57] <hk238> hmm I guess it makes sense from a mobile
perspective.. yeah I think it has some serious problems, but
they're not unfixable.. are they? :o
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1289[08:23:01] <tom99> choice: I have gnome3 on my virtual
machine in wheezy and it doesn't seem bad. is it a later
version?
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1290[08:23:18] <hk238> I like the way it looks best from the ones
I've tried so far
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1292[08:23:38] <choice> hk238: I tried Mate, Cinnamon, Unity, KDE
and LXDE and settled on Mate.
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1294[08:23:58] <hk238> I tried mate briefly too but not long
enough to be sure if it would've worked
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1295[08:23:58] <tom99> I had to fiddle with menus a lot just to
add shortcuts to my desktop
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1297[08:24:17] <choice> tom99: Not sure. I try the latest distros
every now and then and so far, I like Mate best. Gnome 3 was
unusable for me everytime I tried.
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1298[08:25:00] <hk238> I installed this `kali linux` first and I
think the version defaulting to gnome, and I liked how it looked,
but it was really slow and kind of awkward.. so ended up changing
the linux, installing debian.. during intsall I thought that
we'll I've seen gnome already so.. I installed mate, xfce,
KDE
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1301[08:25:53] <hk238> then I tried them out but all of them had
this windows 98 kind of feel to them. Which was adjustable, and I
think it was in xfce that I got it to look pretty neat, but it still
had some thing sI preferred in gnome, so I used the tasksel to
install that and then now just logged onto it, was unable to find
anything to adjust setting swith
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1302[08:26:00] <hk238> and so I asked here and we have this
conversatioj
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1303[08:26:01] <hk238> :D
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1304[08:26:36] <hk238> like for an exmaple I kind of like the
`dash to dock` but it also seems resource intensive, or somtehing
about this environment did on the kali version
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1306[08:27:03] <hk238> but then the dock seems to limited to
having only 1 instance, and it's generally less convenient than
the `panel` system that was present in the other versions
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1307[08:27:09] <choice> hk238: You might want to try Mint Mate.
That is the distro that looks and feels just right for me out of the
box.
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1309[08:27:25] <hk238> I could but I actually had Mint before
installing debian
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1311[08:27:35] <hk238> and I think it was pretty good or is
it's a dual boot currently
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1313[08:27:43] <hk238> well the basic issue here was that
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1314[08:27:54] <hk238> I was using windows XP last year, I just
didnt feel the need to upgrade, coz I wasnt doing anything
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1315[08:27:59] <hk238> then in October, I got into programming
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1316[08:28:04] <hk238> and I got all kinds of trouble for having
xp
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1317[08:28:18] <hk238> so it was either buying windows, and well
I'm not well off financially, so I tried linux
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1318[08:28:22] <hk238> which was a good thing
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1319[08:28:37] <tom99> hk238: do you know how to install the
different desktops in debian? apt-get install Xfce?
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1320[08:28:37] <hk238> and I think I actually mint right as first
option, installed it at the end of the drive, so I only had 80gb on
non-windows HD space
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1321[08:28:45] <han-solo> buy windows?
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1322[08:28:47] <hk238> and I'v ebeen using that.. so to get
some more HD space, I deleted windows
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1323[08:28:50] <choice> hk238: My approach is to simply install
all distris. Each in its own partition. So I can choose one on
bootup. And then after a while I delete the ones I dont like.
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1325[08:28:52] <hk238> and installed debian over it
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1326[08:29:01] <hk238> so now I got a dualboot with debian and
mint and I like it so far
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1328[08:29:43] <choice> hk238: Yeah, so you do it similar.
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1329[08:29:44] <hk238> tom99 no I didnt know that you could do it
like that :d
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1331[08:30:14] <hk238> left 100gb portion of HD space for
installing a 3rd distro
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1332[08:30:23] <choice> So as it seems, even in 2016 no distri
has support for installation into an encrypted partition.
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1334[08:30:31] <choice> Will have to do it manually again then.
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1335[08:30:32] <han-solo> tom99: he did tasksel i guess
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1337[08:30:54] <hk238> thinking maybe arch.. but it's really
complicated to do all that command line stuff and memorize commands,
I find everything is so much more convenient when you've a well
structured GUI, so you don't need t ohave memorized what to do
at each situation, it kind of flows naturally from visually obseving
the contents of applications
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1338[08:31:11] <hk238> yeah I did tasksel so.. anyway, any tips
for configuring gnome?
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1342[08:32:16] <hk238> like I'd want to add some panels,
maybe something to replace the `dash to dock` with, include a start
menu, add hot corners functionality if possible, and such things..
Can I just use the same panels somehow that were in xfce by default?
:o
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1343[08:32:16] <han-solo> hk238: you're gonna need to
memorize a lot of commands if you're getting into programming
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1345[08:32:28] <hk238> yeah, that's correct
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1347[08:32:33] <hk238> but that's also the hard part
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1348[08:32:46] <hk238> if you can avoid that, you takes a
workload off
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1349[08:33:12] <han-solo> well, you wouldn't need to
memorize much after you had some
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1350[08:33:15] <hk238> well maybe not `the` hard part, but at
least I find that reading through some documentation and memorizing
commands is strenuous
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1351[08:34:34] <hk238> I mean I do find something like terminal
convenient if you do remember stuff, but it's like.. well a
good example of this is I was ffmpeg
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1353[08:34:47] <hk238> and I kind of knew what I wanted to do
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1354[08:35:05] <hk238> so one option was to read through some
readme file, that explained what command arguments I was supposed to
give to convert a movie or something like that
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1355[08:35:21] <hk238> the other option, was to install a gui,
and just look at the section that seemed to be dealing with that
stuff, toggle the option and done
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1356[08:36:35] <han-solo> hk238: how old are you?
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1358[08:36:40] <hk238> 30
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1359[08:37:12] <tom99> i'm 25 and I don't even
understand all the terms he used
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1360[08:37:20] <tom99> dash, dock, hot coners, panels
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1362[08:37:53] <han-solo> :)
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1364[08:38:24] <han-solo> hot corners, was it?
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1366[08:38:57] <tom99> is that where you put your mouse cursor on
the corner and something appears?
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1367[08:39:01] <tom99> i think i read about that
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1384[08:55:23] <choice> Is it possible to download a debian
installation iso with non-free stuff, so that wifi works out of the
box?
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1386[08:55:47] <missmbob> !firmware iso
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1387[08:55:47] <dpkg> Unofficial <netinst> images -
containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for
installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from
replaced-url
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1388[08:56:04] <choice> "unofficial" sounds kind of
dangerous...
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1389[08:56:19] <missmbob> choice: it's called unofficial
because official debian cant distribute non-free
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1390[08:57:06] <choice> The link shows kind of a directory
structure.
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1391[08:57:17] <choice> What do I download for a 64bit system?
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1392[08:57:22] <missmbob> yeah...amd64
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1394[08:57:33] <missmbob> then iso-cd
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1396[08:58:10] <choice>
"firmware-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso"?
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1397[08:58:14] <missmbob> yes
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1398[08:58:28] <choice> Even if the computer does not have an AMD
cpu?
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1401[08:59:20] <missmbob> correct
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1402[08:59:36] <choice> Strange. Why is it called
"AMD"?
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1403[08:59:46] <missmbob> amd was the first to come out with a
64-bit chip
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1404[08:59:59] <choice> Hmm... ok...
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1405[09:00:09] <babilen> dpkg: why amd64
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1406[09:00:09] <dpkg> The Debian architecture that runs on 64-bit
processors from AMD and Intel is called "amd64" because
the architecture was first developed by AMD. AMD64 is variously
known as x86-64, x64, IA-32e, EM64T and Intel 64 (most of which are
the Intel marketing people changing their mind).
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1408[09:00:39] <babilen> choice: It's the same logic with
i386 which isn't exclusive to Intel
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1409[09:00:48] <choice> babilen: Ok. Thanks.
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1410[09:01:18] <choice> I am trying to figure out how to install
Linux into an encrypted partition on an EFI computer. Mints
installer crashed. So I will give Debian another try.
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1412[09:01:39] <missmbob> debian's installer walks you
through encryption. it's really easy
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1413[09:01:52] <babilen> Debian's installer offers a
"Guided Partitioning" method that will configure the
necessary bits and pieces for EFI
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1414[09:01:54] <missmbob> choice: are are you copying these isos
to the usb?
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1415[09:02:00] <missmbob> how*
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1417[09:03:25] <choice> missmbob: yes, via "cp
thelongnameofthe.iso /dev/sdb"
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1418[09:03:43] <babilen> That should work perfectly
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1419[09:04:49] <choice> Has been working for me for years now.
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1420[09:05:52] <choice> Should I install Debian without a desktop
environment and then install Mate? Is Mate in the Debian repos?
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1421[09:06:16] <malinus> Hello. I've got problems with my
wifi usb adapter:
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1423[09:07:32] <klys> malinus, iwconfig -a
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1424[09:07:52] <missmbob> malinus: yes it's in repos if
that's what you want.
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1425[09:08:00] * missmbob hates mate
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1429[09:08:29] <malinus> klys: nope, not there
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1430[09:08:39] <malinus> missmbob: not in jessie, as far as I can
tell?
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1431[09:08:45] <choice> missmbob: Since Gnome 2, Mate is the only
DE I can stand.
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1432[09:08:49] <babilen> dpkg: install mate
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1433[09:08:49] <dpkg> To install <MATE> on established
systems, ask me about <install x>, then: «apt-get
install mate-desktop-environment» (for more things, also
install mate-desktop-environment-extras). To install using
Debian-Installer: from the 'Software selection' dialog,
choose "MATE" (use space bar to toggle selections), then
"Continue".
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1434[09:09:12] <choice> babilen: Can I use apt-get instead?
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1435[09:09:17] <missmbob> sure
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1436[09:09:23] <babilen> choice: Instead of apt-get?
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1437[09:09:36] <babilen> " ... then: «apt-get install
mate-desktop-environment» ..."
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1438[09:10:11] <choice> babilen: Ah, I see. I saw
"menu" and "space bar" in the text and though it
refers to some graphical tool.
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1440[09:10:43] <babilen> That factoid provides information on how
to install MATE on an already installed system and during the
initial installation
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1441[09:11:02] <han-solo> i can see that, it's in the
tasksel --list-tasks
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1442[09:11:09] <babilen> You can, naturally, also install
individual packages if you don't want to pull in everything
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1444[09:11:26] <babilen> dpkg: depends mate-desktop-environment
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1445[09:11:34] <babilen> judd: depends mate-desktop-environment
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1446[09:11:35] <judd> Package mate-desktop-environment in
jessie/amd64 -- depends: mate-desktop-environment-core (= 1.8.0+9).
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1450[09:12:11] <dpkg> mate-desktop-environment: depends on
mate-desktop-environment-core (= 1.14.0+2)
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1451[09:12:45] <choice> babilen: Is there a list of all the stuff
that comes with mate?
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1452[09:13:09] <babilen> choice: "/msg judd depends
mate-desktop-environment-core"
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1453[09:13:22] <babilen> (so we don't clutter the channel
too much)
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1454[09:14:01] <choice> babilen: That's all? That's a
pretty tiny list.
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1455[09:14:14] <choice> babilen: I thought it comes with all
kinds of crazy stuff like an email app etc.
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1456[09:14:15] <babilen> You can always install more ;)
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1457[09:14:25] <babilen> Which email program are you looking for?
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1458[09:14:43] <choice> babilen: Not looking for one. I hate it
when a DE installs applications.
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1459[09:14:52] <choice> babilen: But I thought that is what Mate
does.
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1460[09:14:57] <babilen> So, why do you want to install one?
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1461[09:15:08] <choice> babilen: Where did I say I want to
install one?
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1462[09:15:17] <babilen> Ah, so the fact that the list is tiny is
something you don't actually want to "fix" ?
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1463[09:15:35] <choice> babilen: No, it would be great if it is
in fact that slim.
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1464[09:15:42] <babilen> Sorry, I misunderstood your
"babilen: That's all? That's a pretty tiny
list." in the sense that you were unhappy about that fact
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1465[09:16:01] <choice> When it comes to software, tiny == good
:)
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1466[09:16:21] <babilen> I agree, but "That's all"
sounded a bit negative
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1468[09:16:27] <choice> ok
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1470[09:16:57] <babilen> Although I wouldn't call MATE
"tiny" in any way :)
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1472[09:17:59] <babilen> In the end I haven't installed
MATE, but apt-get will list the packages it is about to install.
There might be certain dependencies that aren't really needed,
so you might want to install it manually with "apt-get
--no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment"
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1473[09:18:01] <choice> What makes it big? Is it bigger then
Gnome 2?
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1474[09:18:54] <babilen> The fact that it is a desktop
environment makes it "big" already. A more minimal
approach would be to just install Xorg and a minimal window manager
such as i3, awesome, openbox, fluxbox, ...
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1475[09:19:27] <mtcj> I really like i3 though I'm not using
it right now
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1476[09:19:51] <babilen> I begrudgingly accepted that wmii
won't be maintained anymore and am using i3 now :)
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1477[09:19:56] <mtcj> I've also used TWM regularly as
recently as 2011..
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1478[09:20:21] <babilen> Either way .. I'd say that everyone
should use the environment that best fits their needs
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1479[09:20:30] <babilen> (be that KDE, Gnome, MATE, i3, ...)
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1480[09:20:41] <choice> babilen: Oh, so the list that bot shows
might be without the "recommends"? And if one does only
"apt-get install mate-dektop-environment" that might
install tons of applications?
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1482[09:20:54] <babilen> choice: Try it and see
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1488[09:21:34] <babilen> I'd pull in metapackages such as
mate-desktop-environment without recommends if at all
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1489[09:21:55] <babilen> (if one is interested in a
"minimal" installation footprint)
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1490[09:22:16] <babilen> Note that this would omit packages that
are quite literally recommended :)
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1492[09:23:01] <choice> What could be missing that I would miss?
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1497[09:26:44] <babilen> I have no idea
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1499[09:27:50] <babilen> Should be easy to find out if you were
to actually compare the set of packages that are about to be
installed
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1503[09:29:13] <choice> Is there no online tool for that?
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1504[09:30:06] <ccmcdee> when deleting a package with installed
dependecies, dpkg suggests removing via autoremove, how would i tell
dpkg to ignore the 'autoremove' packages.list?
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1506[09:30:57] <hk238> hi
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1510[09:32:31] <choice> I wonder if I should add a swap
partition. My desktop is happily running without swap for years now.
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1511[09:32:55] <kion> I just did a fresh install of jessie and
did an update upgrade, why do I still see the iceweacel icon instead
of the firefox one?
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1513[09:34:23] <choice> kion: Is the update/upgrade part of your
question important? Because I would not think it swaps out
applications.
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1514[09:34:44] <choice> If Debian 8.5 does not ship wiht FF in
the first place, I would assume it will not be added via
update/upgrade.
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1516[09:35:14] <kion> choice, should I then remove iceweacel and
install firefox?
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1517[09:35:21] <kion> I thought they were the same package
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1518[09:35:37] <choice> kion: Is FF in the Debian repos?
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1519[09:36:07] <kion> choice I don't know, but on my laptop
one day iceweacel just became FF after an update
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1520[09:36:20] <choice> kion: On Debian?
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1521[09:36:22] <kion> yes
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1522[09:36:29] <choice> Funky
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1523[09:36:46] <kion> choice, I might be wrong, but I dont recall
installing FF specificly
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1524[09:36:49] <babilen> judd: v firefox
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1525[09:36:50] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 --
jessie-backports/firefox-release: 48.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 48.0-1+b1;
experimental: 49.0~b1-1
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1526[09:36:51] <choice> guess you can check the repos with
"apt-cache search firefox". Im not sure though.
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1528[09:37:07] <babilen> kion: Pull it in from jessie-backports.
The package selection of "jessie" doesn't change.
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1530[09:37:29] <babilen> (which is why it is "stable")
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1531[09:37:33] <jmcnaught> judd: v firefox-esr
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1532[09:37:35] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 --
wheezy-security: 45.3.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates:
45.3.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 45.3.0esr-1~deb8u1; sid:
45.3.0esr-1; stretch: 45.3.0esr-1
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1533[09:37:38] <kion> babilen, how do I pull it from backports?
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1534[09:37:51] <babilen> jmcnaught: Indeed, good call
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1535[09:38:30] <jmcnaught> also
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1536[09:38:31] <choice> Ok, so I plugged in the Debian 8.5 stick
into my laptop... The first menu "Install" is right,
right? Or do I have to go to "Advanced Options"?
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1537[09:38:42] <babilen> dpkg: tell kion -about jessie-backports
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1538[09:38:45] <ccmcdee> ah, found my answer
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1539[09:38:57] <babilen> kion: You can also ensure that
"firefox-esr" is installed
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1541[09:39:17] <babilen> choice: Do you want to set advanced
options?
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1543[09:39:34] <choice> babilen: Not sure what advanced options
are.
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1544[09:39:41] <babilen> Why don't you look?
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1545[09:39:48] <choice> babilen: I surely want to say "No DE
please"
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1546[09:40:01] <choice> babilen: My feelin is that "Advanced
options" are more advanced then that.
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1547[09:40:08] <babilen> My impression is that you want to
perform an "expert install"
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1548[09:40:26] <choice> babilen: Really?
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1550[09:40:53] <babilen> Yes, really. But feel free to not do it.
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1552[09:41:31] <choice> Still a bit sceptical, but ok.
Rebooting...
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1553[09:41:45] <babilen> You can also take a look and then, once
you have the information, make up your mind as to what kind of
install you want to perform. You might also want to read the
installation guide beforehand and use the newly acquired information
to make that choice.
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1554[09:42:39] <choice> I'm never sure what a
"Locale" is. Using "USA" for now...
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1555[09:42:54] <choice> "en_US.UTF-8" I mean.
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1556[09:43:34] <choice> "Detect and mount CD-ROM"?
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1558[09:43:43] <choice> Should I do that?
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1562[09:44:30] <choice> "A CD-ROM drive has been
found"... yeah probably :)
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1563[09:44:36] <babilen> Yes, you should do that.
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1564[09:44:49] <babilen>
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1567[09:44:54] <choice> Next it will find a punched card reader.
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1568[09:45:06] <babilen> What's your native language (or
rather the language you want your computer to use) and where do you
live?
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1570[09:45:31] <choice> My native language is Geman. I live in
Gemany. I want my computer to use English.
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1572[09:45:43] <choice> s/Geman/German
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1573[09:46:13] <babilen> I'd recommend en_GB.UTF-8 in that
case and also selection en_US.UTF-8 and en_DE.UTF-8
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1574[09:46:19] <babilen> *selecting
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1575[09:46:33] <choice> Why not "en_US.UTF-8"?
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1577[09:47:27] <choice> No it asks me to "Load installer
components from CD". Guess it means "fom USB". Wonder
if I need to select some of those.
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1578[09:47:35] <babilen> Because that gets you weird date formats
such as MM/DD/YYYY (month then day then year), all sorts of weird
units and whatnot. en_GB is much closer
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1579[09:47:57] <babilen> The installer doesn't differentiate
between "CD" and "USB" if you hadn't
noticed
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1580[09:48:09] <babilen> Did you read
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1581[09:48:30] <choice> babilen: I prefer reading in English.
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1582[09:48:42] <babilen>
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1583[09:48:51] <choice> I read and write more English then
German.
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1584[09:48:58] <choice> Local languages are so pre internet.
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1585[09:49:16] <babilen> So, you'll be learning Chinese soon
;)
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1587[09:49:39] <choice> Have to visit China first so I see if I
like it.
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1588[09:50:07] <choice> I wonder if I have to load any crypto
modules in the "Load installer components from CD"
section.
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1590[09:50:43] <choice> I will try without any of those modules.
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1591[09:50:49] <hiya> how to use Whirlpool hash in debian?
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1593[09:51:53] <choice> Do I need to set up wifi while
installing?
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1596[09:52:12] <choice> The "Detect Network Hardware"
page says "No Ethernet card was detected".
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1598[09:55:07] <choice> Hmm... the "Partition disk"
thing has no option for an encrypted partition... going with
"manual".
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1600[09:55:26] <babilen> There's Guided Partititioning that
offers encrypted LVM
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1601[09:55:45] <babilen> If you go with "manual"
you'll have to make sure to the get the EFI bits right
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1602[09:56:20] <babilen> Did you read
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1603[09:56:28] <babilen> It really discusses this in great detail
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1604[09:56:36] <choice> babilen: Really? I see 5 options:
"Guided - use tha largest continuous free space".
"Guided - use entire disk". "Guided - use entire disk
and set up LVM". "Guided - use entire disk and set up
encrypted LVM". "Manual".
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1605[09:57:01] <babilen> "Guided - use entire disk and set
up encrypted LVM"" doesnt' sound as if it is
"encrypting" things to you?
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1607[09:57:21] <choice> babilen: I don't want debian to use
my entire disk. And I don't want LVM.
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1608[09:57:41] <babilen> Okay, then configure it manually
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1609[09:57:44] <choice> babilen: There is a bunch of other OSes
on data partitions the HD that I want to keep.
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1610[09:57:56] <choice> s/on/and
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1612[09:58:51] <klys> Manual, choice.
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1615[09:59:56] <choice> Ok, so in "manual" I guess I
can skip "configure software raid" and "configure
logical volume manager".
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1618[10:01:30] <shyam-id-au> How do I change my mic volume? I can
use "Sound Recorder" to listen to sound from my mic. But
alsamixer doesn't show my mic, and there's only one volume
slider for "Master".
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1619[10:01:45] <choice> No idea what "Configure iSCSI
volumes" is. Skipping that also...
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1621[10:02:56] <choice> Should I use ext4 for / on an encrypted
volume?
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1623[10:04:16] <choice> Should I do anything to the existing ESP
partition?
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1626[10:05:00] <choice> And how do I set up a boot partition?
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1630[10:05:28] <ani> choice: you try install debian on notebook
with preinstalled win?
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1631[10:05:36] <choice> ani: no
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1633[10:05:57] <choice> ani: I just try to install debian in an
encrypted partition on an EFI machine.
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1635[10:06:16] <ani> switch to legacy\compatible
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1636[10:06:36] <babilen> ani: Whatfor? There are plenty of other
operating systems on that box that use EFI
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1637[10:06:44] <choice> ani: There already are a bunch of OSes
and data partitions on the machine that I want to keep.
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1638[10:06:46] <babilen> (and Debian is perfectly capable of
booting on EFI)
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1639[10:06:54] <ani> i he ask, then have problem or not?
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1640[10:07:04] <ani> try standart procedure
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1641[10:07:07] <babilen> I have no idea what the problem is
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1644[10:07:16] <babilen> (or even if there is one .. I guess
there isn't)
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1645[10:07:32] <choice> babilen: Right now I wonder how to chose
the boot partition.
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1647[10:08:00] <babilen> What do you refer to by "boot
partition" ?
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1648[10:08:15] <babilen> The partition on which you mount /boot ?
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1650[10:08:21] <choice> babilen: yes
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1652[10:08:50] <babilen> You create a partition and select /boot
as mountpoint. It isn't necessary to use a separate /boot
though.
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1653[10:09:08] <babilen> But configure your system in the way you
like
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1655[10:09:20] <choice> babilen: Well it is necessary because
boot has to be unencrypted.
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1656[10:09:31] <choice> And / is encrypted.
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1658[10:09:41] <ani> choice: you want boot on usb ?
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1659[10:09:46] <choice> ani: no
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1662[10:10:06] <ani> wha you want change mp of /boot?
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1663[10:10:08] <choice> babilen: The problem is: when I hit
<enter> on an unencrypted partition, there is no "use as
/boot".
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1665[10:10:35] <ani> just use auto installer he setup evrething
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1666[10:10:38] <ani> with boot
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1667[10:10:52] <choice> ani: because / is encrypted and not
available at the time the computer boots.
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1669[10:11:21] <choice> babilen: found it.
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1670[10:11:24] <shyam-id-au> Nevermind, I figured it out! ;)
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1672[10:11:37] <choice> babilen: First had to say "use as
ext 4" and then "mount point /boot".
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1674[10:11:54] <babilen> Why don't you read the docuemtation
first?
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1675[10:12:05] <babilen> *documentation
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1676[10:12:07] <crazyman> dude im a black man on PCP
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1677[10:12:13] <choice> Going to get adventurous and also say
"format" the boot partition.
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1682[10:12:28] <choice> Now my last question if if I should do
anything to the ESP partition.
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1684[10:13:23] <babilen> ESP is needed for EFI
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1685[10:13:50] <choice> babilen: Yes, I know. There is an ESP
partition on this machine. I wonder if I have to select it or
anything. Guess not.
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1686[10:14:08] <choice> babilen: The docu does not say anything
about it. Just that on EFI systems there is an ESP partition.
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1687[10:14:44] <klys> expanded stack pointer, extra sensory
perception, and now this
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1688[10:14:58] <ani> do not touch advenced settings, and no
problem
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1689[10:15:47] <choice> Lets go. Finished the partitioning. Now
"install the system".
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1690[10:16:24] <choice> "Choose from the available
kernels" :)
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1691[10:16:29] <choice> Yeah right... how do I choose?
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1693[10:16:52] <choice> "linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64" or
"linux-image-amd64".
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1694[10:16:54] <choice> ?
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1695[10:17:09] <ani> you use some kind expert install?
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1696[10:17:16] <choice> Why are there multiple kernels in the
first place?
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1697[10:17:20] <dutchfish> choice, the later one is just a
virtual package
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1698[10:17:30] <choice> dutchfish: Whats a virtual package?
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1699[10:17:31] <dutchfish> choice, it will make sure you get the
latest one
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1704[10:17:40] <ani> just link for support
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1705[10:17:52] <dutchfish> choice, it automatically installs the
former one
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1706[10:17:58] <choice> dutchfish: Ok. I will choose the short
one then.
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1708[10:18:29] <choice> "Choose initrd"...
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1709[10:18:50] <choice> "include all drivers" vs
"include drivers needed".
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1710[10:18:56] <choice> choices, choices...
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1711[10:18:57] <ani> all
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1712[10:19:19] <choice> Is that a choice for the installation
process or for all time?
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1713[10:19:43] <ani> include in initrd drivers
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1714[10:19:45] <ani> all time
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1715[10:19:47] <babilen> Like most other choices you've made
so far this one also pertains to the system you are installing
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1716[10:20:10] <choice> "some boot loaders are unable to
load all drivers"... so it seems to be something persistent.
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1718[10:20:37] <choice> I will try the "only drivers
needed".
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1719[10:20:46] <babilen> Why would you do that?
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1720[10:20:49] <choice> or no...
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1721[10:21:02] <ani> choice: if you change hardware system may
failure to boot
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1722[10:21:02] <choice> if the install fails, there is already
too much uncertainty why.
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1723[10:21:06] <babilen> Do whatever you want, but the
recommendation was to include all drivers
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1724[10:21:06] <choice> will go with the full one.
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1725[10:21:14] <ani> choose all
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1726[10:21:29] <choice> babilen: Yeah, I have choosen the
recommendet one now.
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1727[10:22:10] <choice> Getting a network error now.
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1728[10:22:25] <choice> "An error has been detected while
trying to use the debian archive mirror".
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1729[10:22:35] <choice> Yeah, it did not let me select my wifi so
far...
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1730[10:22:38] <choice> What do I do now?
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1736[10:26:40] <klys> choice, get a prompt and do # lspci -vvv |
less; and look for your wireless hardware
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1738[10:27:54] <choice> klys: no "less" in that shell.
I guess I can google the hardware. What do I do then?
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1740[10:28:24] <klys> find the appropriate kernel module and run
wpa_supplicant from wireless-tools and wpa_supplicant packates
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1741[10:28:30] <klys> packages*
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1744[10:30:08] <babilen> choice: Did you configure wireless?
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1745[10:30:09] <choice> klys: How do I find the appropriate
kernel module?
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1746[10:30:23] <choice> babilen: How? There is no option for it
in the installer.
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1748[10:30:55] <choice> babilen: There is a "Detect network
hardware" but that says "No Ethernet card detected".
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1751[10:31:12] <choice> And lists a gazillion drivers to choose
from.
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1752[10:31:16] <babilen>
replaced-url
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1755[10:32:09] <choice> Why doesn't Debian ship the network
detection that comes with Mint? I would assume it's all open
source.
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1756[10:32:25] <klys> choice, if you tell me the make/model of
your wireless I will look it up in
replaced-url
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1757[10:32:39] <babilen> Which wifi card do you have? (run
"lspci -nn" and tell us the pciid)
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1762[10:33:03] <babilen> Or which ethernet card if you are
connected via ethernet also
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1763[10:33:34] <choice> babilen: Croadcom BCM4352 802.11ac
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1764[10:33:38] <choice> babilen: Broadcom BCM4352 802.11ac
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1765[10:34:46] <babilen> dpkg: BCM4352
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1766[10:34:47] <dpkg> Broadcom's proprietary wireless LAN
driver (wl, aka broadcom-sta) supports devices based on the Broadcom
BCM4311, BCM4312, BCM4313, BCM4321, BCM4322, BCM43224, BCM43225,
BCM43227, BCM43228, BCM43142, BCM4331, BCM4352 and BCM4360 chips. To
install (amd64 and i386 only), see
replaced-url
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1767[10:35:04] <babilen> The pciid would be better/more helpful
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1768[10:35:09] <choice> I don't see "broadcom-sta"
in the driver list.
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1769[10:35:30] <choice> There is "brcmfmac" and
"brcmsmac".
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1770[10:35:49] <klys> modprobe b43
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1771[10:35:49] <choice> also there is "broadcom".
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1773[10:35:56] <choice> Should I just try some and see what
happens?
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1774[10:36:02] <klys> b43
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1776[10:37:25] <choice> klys: When I choose the "b43" I
just get back to "No ethernet card was detected".
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1777[10:37:48] <klys> yes, youmodprobe'
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1779[10:38:08] <klys> d b43, now install wireless-tools and
wpasupplicant
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1780[10:38:30] <bibble> just uninstalled resolvconf. been
recommended to reboot. bad if I don't ?
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1781[10:38:32] <bibble> Removing resolvconf (1.76.1) ...
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1782[10:38:34] <bibble> resolvconf.postrm: Reboot recommended
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1784[10:38:36] <klys> you will not see anything until you do
iwconfig -a
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1785[10:38:38] <choice> klys: "apt-get install
wireless-tools"?
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1787[10:38:58] <klys> choice, you may need to copy the package
via usb
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1788[10:39:06] <hk238> hmm is it correct that you can't use
gnome.org 's shell extensions without using `shell integration`
on the browser? :o
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1789[10:39:11] <choice> klys: omg.
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1790[10:39:28] <klys> do you have a debian install cd?
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1791[10:39:30] <choice> I think it might be easier to work around
the encryption issue on Mint then to work around the wireless issue
on Debian.
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1792[10:39:38] <choice> klys: I have an USB stick.
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1793[10:39:52] <klys> is it netinstall?
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1794[10:40:00] <klys> k
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1795[10:40:29] <babilen> klys: It should be pointed out that
choice is currently installing Debian
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1796[10:40:36] <choice> klys: Yes, I think its netinstall.
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1797[10:40:39] <klys> do what you have to do, the wireless-tools
packages should be in
replaced-url
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1800[10:40:59] <babilen> choice: fwiw, you can continue the
installation without configuring your network right now (you just
won't be able to download packages)
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1802[10:41:53] <babilen> If the installer doesn't recognise
your hardware you might need a newer kernel. But there is little we
can do without the PCIID
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1803[10:42:11] <choice> babilen: What is the PCIID and how do I
get it?
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1805[10:42:25] <babilen> As mentioned earlier: Run "lspci
-nn"
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1806[10:42:26] <kmh> is anonscm.debian.org down?
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1808[10:42:39] <babilen> kmh: It appears to be having problems
right now, yes
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1809[10:42:57] <klys> he's still thinking debian can detect
wireless hardware. I'm betting it detected an interface. you
can find out with dmesg | tail
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1810[10:43:00] <kmh> ah ok :) thx!
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1811[10:43:09] <choice> babilen: That is the command I copied
"Broadcom BCM4352 802.11ac" from. What else do you need?
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1814[10:43:33] <babilen> choice: The pciid which is the
alphanumerical identifier at the end (in [....])
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1815[10:43:59] <klys> just that a wireless interface is not a
network interface until after you negotiate one with wpa_supplicant.
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1816[10:44:02] <choice> babilen: 14e4:43b1
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1817[10:44:18] <babilen> judd: pciid 14e4:43b1
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1818[10:44:19] <judd> [14e4:43b1] is 'BCM4352 802.11ac
Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Broadcom Limited'
with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also
replaced-url
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1819[10:44:31] <babilen> So, not supported by the kernel in
jessie
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1820[10:44:48] <choice> So back to Mint?
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1821[10:44:57] <klys> <M> Broadcom 43xx wireless support
(mac80211 stack)
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1822[10:45:17] <klys> that is the kernel prompt for b43
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1824[10:46:19] <klys> again, you will not see any results until
you run iwconfig -a
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1825[10:46:54] <choice> klys: /bin/sh iwconfig: not found
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1826[10:47:07] <klys> choice, I linked you some debs
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1827[10:47:17] <choice> klys: No internet on that machine :)
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1828[10:47:44] <babilen>
replaced-url
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1829[10:47:52] <klys> choice,
replaced-url
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1830[10:48:04] <choice> babilen: I thought I already have the
non-free drivers?
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1831[10:48:06] <babilen> klys: choice is currently running the
Debian installer
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1832[10:48:10] <themill> klys: none of this is much help in the
installer
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1833[10:48:11] <babilen> choice: That's for firmware
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1834[10:48:34] <choice> babilen: What is the difference between
firmware and drivers?
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1836[10:49:14] <klys> firmware is a file loaded into hardware
from /lib/firmware when you do modprobe b43
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1837[10:49:19] <babilen> firmware are binary blobs loaded by
certain kernel modules
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1838[10:49:47] <babilen> dpkg: firmware
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1839[10:49:47] <dpkg> Firmware is software to operate electronic
devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux
kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace,
notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part
of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some
are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask
me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>.
replaced-url
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1840[10:50:02] <choice> Well, since I already started it, I will
finish the installation without wifi now.
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1842[10:51:07] <choice> Will it be possible to get wifi later?
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1843[10:51:30] <themill> with the aid of a usb stick
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1844[10:51:39] <choice> omg
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1845[10:52:04] <klys> I was thinking it may be possible to
install packages via dpkg -x /target and using chroot to start the
program(s).
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1847[10:52:30] <choice> I think I will abort this.
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1849[10:52:53] <themill> choice: do you not have wired internet
access for that machine?
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1850[10:53:07] <choice> themill: Like those cables we used in the
90s?
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1852[10:53:28] * themill moves on to more productive things
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1855[10:54:40] * choice gives up on Debian
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1856[10:54:47] <klys> should have got the CD.
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1857[10:55:15] <themill> choice: if you're not interested in
working to solve problems, that's probably a good call.
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1859[10:55:52] <choice> themill: I'm definitely trying to
minimize the amount of work I have to do, yes.
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1860[10:56:27] <choice> The reason I was trying Debian is that
Mint does not support encryption in the manual partitioner.
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1861[10:56:41] <themill> it would have been less work to do this
another way from the beginning, but you didn't want to listen
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1949[11:50:04] <JoelBot> We should all welcome JoelBot for
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1950[11:50:13] <JoelBot> n
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1974[12:02:50] <unborn> thanks for removing that spammy crap >
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2005[12:17:24] <nicknight> how to install adb tools in deabian
8.5
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2006[12:17:28] <nicknight> ?
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2007[12:17:29] <Agiofws>
replaced-url
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2008[12:18:17] <babilen> nicknight: "apt install
android-tools-adb"
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2009[12:18:22] <babilen> dpkg: tell nicknight -about search
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2011[12:19:08] <nicknight> E: Unable to locate package
android-tools-adb
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2012[12:19:11] <nicknight> babilen
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2013[12:19:17] <babilen> dpkg: bat
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2014[12:19:17] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
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2015[12:19:46] <babilen> dpkg: show sources.list
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2016[12:19:46] <dpkg> Please pastebin the contents of your
/etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The
easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0
/etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
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2017[12:19:51] <babilen> nicknight: ^
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2021[12:23:28] <nicknight> babilen:
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2023[12:23:49] <babilen> dpkg: pastebin.com
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2024[12:23:49] <dpkg> pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever
to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills
the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like
replaced-url
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2025[12:24:04] <babilen> (literally any other pastebin is
acceptable)
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2028[12:25:05] <hexadecimal> hello
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2033[12:28:18] <babilen> nicknight: If you were to use a
different pastebin people might look at the information you provided
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2034[12:28:37] <babilen> (which is why we mention
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2037[12:29:35] <nicknight>
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2039[12:29:42] <nicknight> babilen:
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2040[12:30:25] <babilen> nicknight: That's MINT which is not
supported in this channel
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2041[12:30:27] <babilen> dpkg: mint
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2042[12:30:27] <dpkg> Linux Mint is not Debian and is not
supported in #debian. Please use their forums at
replaced-url
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2045[12:30:43] <nicknight> MINt ??
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2046[12:31:01] <nicknight> babilen: what is mint I am using
debian 8.5
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2047[12:31:05] <babilen> Well, Mint apparently --
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2049[12:31:19] <babilen> nicknight: No, you are using Mint (see
line 10 in your paste)
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2050[12:31:25] <nicknight> babilen: but why it came to picture
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2053[12:31:47] <nicknight> I addded line 10 to download something
by apt
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2054[12:31:53] <nicknight> may be
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2057[12:32:02] <nicknight> but I use debian 8.5
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2058[12:32:08] <babilen> Well, sure. But that means that you are
no longer using Debian, but Mint or some weird hybrid.
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2060[12:32:29] <babilen>
replaced-url
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2061[12:32:36] <nicknight> babilen: what I have to do ow?
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2062[12:32:54] <babilen> But to answer your question: Take a look
at line 9 and ask yourself why you commented it.
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2063[12:33:07] <babilen> To solve this situation you might have
to reinstall the system if you installed packages from mint
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2065[12:33:41] <jim> nicknight, what do you want to do? have
debian in its intended form?
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2066[12:34:04] <babilen> And what did you install from the mint
repositories?
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2067[12:34:41] <nicknight> babilen: may be virtualbox
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2068[12:34:48] <nicknight> or something I dont remember
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2069[12:34:57] <init7> how do I change Your Postfix configuration
is missing the system's mail hostname
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2071[12:35:52] <jim> wait, I'm confused... what inspired you
to add mint repos to your sources.list?
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2073[12:36:25] <babilen> nicknight: Run "dpkg -l | awk
'/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk
'/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/{pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t";
ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}'|grep mint" and
paste the output. Then comment line 10, run "apt update"
and paste the output of "aptitude search
'?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'"
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2074[12:37:34] <nicknight> babilen: can u kindly give me corrct
syntax and paste
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2076[12:37:44] <nicknight> its thrwing >
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2077[12:37:52] <nicknight> like python interpreter
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2079[12:38:44] <babilen> What is?
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2080[12:38:46] <nicknight> ok now I ot it
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2081[12:38:50] <nicknight> one min
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2082[12:39:24] <jelly> init7: what does "postconf
myorigin" say?
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2083[12:39:34] <SynrG> babilen: i guess the shell. Mismatched
quote
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2084[12:39:54] <babilen> I just copied the command and it works
fine here
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2085[12:39:56] <babilen> :-/
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2086[12:40:01] <jim> one way, you can pastebin the output of an
arbitrary command by running "anArbitraryCommand | nc
termbin.com 9999", and to include error messages,
"anArbitraryCommand 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999",
and combining that with what babilen asked for: dpkg -l | awk
'/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk
'/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/{pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t";
ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}'|grep mint | nc
termbin.com 9999
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2087[12:40:27] <SynrG> Yeah. Mis-cut, it seems, but they have
figured it out
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2088[12:40:29] <jim> you would need to have netcat installed
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2089[12:40:41] <nicknight> babilen: nick@localhost:~$ dpkg -l |
awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk
'/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/{pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t";
ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}
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2090[12:40:43] <nicknight> >
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2091[12:40:46] <nicknight> its coming like this
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2092[12:40:57] <SynrG> Oh, perhaps not. :)
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2093[12:40:59] <jelly> you're missing the last '
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2094[12:41:07] <babilen> Yeah, you are missing the '|grep
mint bit
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2095[12:41:18] <nicknight> ok
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2096[12:41:29] <init7> jelly:
replaced-url
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2097[12:41:36] <babilen> (feel free to paste without the grep)
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2098[12:42:33] <nicknight> babilen: nick@localhost:~$ dpkg -l |
awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk
'/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/{pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t";
ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}'|grep mint bit
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2099[12:42:36] <nicknight> grep: bit: No such file or directory
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2100[12:42:36] <jelly> init7: ok, and what are the contents of
/etc/mailname then?
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2101[12:42:38] <nicknight> xargs: apt-cache: terminated by signal
13
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2102[12:42:49] <SynrG> Hehe
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2104[12:42:51] <babilen> nicknight: remove " bit" at
the end
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2105[12:43:04] <nicknight> then it throwing >
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2106[12:43:15] <babilen> No, it's not
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2109[12:43:29] <babilen> Literally run: dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/
{print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk
'/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/{pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t";
ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}'|grep mint
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2110[12:43:32] <init7> jelly:
replaced-url
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2111[12:43:42] <nicknight> babilen: I got it
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2112[12:43:45] <nicknight> its firefox
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2113[12:43:50] <nicknight> I installed firefox
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2114[12:43:52] <nicknight> using that
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2115[12:44:06] <SynrG> Let's see the whole output
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2116[12:44:11] <nicknight> firefox: 43.0~linuxmint1+betsy
/var/lib/dpkg/status
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2118[12:44:12] <jelly> init7: is that the right name your A and
PTR records will resolve to?
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2119[12:44:25] <jelly> init7: that seems fine, pastebin the whole
"postconf -n"
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2122[12:44:32] <babilen> nicknight: Once you are done with that
edit your sources.list to look like:
replaced-url
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2123[12:44:33] <nicknight> babilen: but that is bash script the
one u gave?
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2125[12:45:45] <babilen> I don't understand why you would
install firefox from mint (as it is available in the Debian
repositories also)
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2126[12:45:46] <init7> jelly:
replaced-url
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2127[12:45:53] <babilen> judd: v firefox
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2128[12:45:54] <judd> Package: firefox on amd64 --
jessie-backports/firefox-release: 48.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 48.0-1+b1;
experimental: 49.0~b1-1
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2129[12:45:58] <babilen> judd: v firefox-esr
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2130[12:45:59] <judd> Package: firefox-esr on amd64 --
wheezy-security: 45.3.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-security:
45.3.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 45.3.0esr-1~deb8u1;
sid: 45.3.0esr-1; stretch: 45.3.0esr-1
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2131[12:46:10] <babilen> (with the non ESR version being
available from backports)
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2132[12:46:23] <folivora> Hi, how I could se random hostname on
boot? Or use mac-address as hostname ?
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2133[12:46:28] <folivora> *set
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2134[12:46:40] <babilen> folivora: Whatfor?
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2137[12:47:56] <folivora> I am starting N amount of servers from
same image. I would want to those have random hostnames ...
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2138[12:47:59] <jelly> init7: looks vaguely sane, except you have
some crap in /etc/postfix/main.cf that postconf doesn't
understand at all
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2140[12:48:51] <babilen> folivora: cloud-init might come in handy
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2141[12:48:54] <init7> jelly: hahah :P crap
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2143[12:49:29] <nicknight> babilen: nick@localhost:~$ aptitude
search
'?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))
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2144[12:49:32] <nicknight> >
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2145[12:49:34] <nicknight>
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2146[12:49:38] <nicknight> something i am missing?
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2147[12:49:47] <jelly> init7: that's what the persistent
"postconf: warning [...]" is, well warning you about
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2148[12:49:53] <nicknight> and this is bash language?
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2152[12:50:12] <nicknight> also I installed firefox because
iceweasel not allwoing me so
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2153[12:50:23] <babilen> nicknight: No, that's aptitude
search query
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2155[12:50:48] <SynrG> nicknight: ' at the end
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2156[12:51:03] <babilen> :)
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2159[12:51:08] <babilen> deja vu
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2160[12:51:11] <nicknight> pevious one
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2161[12:51:41] <nicknight> on(CURRENT))'
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2162[12:51:43] <nicknight> i firefox - The Firefox web browser
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2163[12:51:45] <nicknight> i vagrant - no description given
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2164[12:51:47] <nicknight> nick@localhost:~$
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2165[12:51:55] <nicknight> this is the outut babilen
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2168[12:52:10] <SynrG> We didn't ask why Firefox. We asked
why Firefox from *mint*. Debian has it
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2171[12:52:27] <babilen> Okay, so purge those packages and then
reinstall them from Debian repositories. There really is no need to
use Mint repositories at all.
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2173[12:52:46] <babilen> In fact doing so will, in the long run,
break your system or, at least, mean that you won't be able to
seek support in here.
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2174[12:53:00] <babilen> judd: v vagrant
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2175[12:53:01] <judd> Package: vagrant on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.0.3-1; jessie: 1.6.5+dfsg1-2; stretch: 1.8.5+dfsg-1; sid:
1.8.5+dfsg-2
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2176[12:53:24] <babilen> nicknight: Do you require a specific
version of vagrant and/or firefox?
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2179[12:54:01] <nicknight> babilen: I need vagrant but not
firefox
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2180[12:54:16] <babilen> Okay, but do you need a specific version
of vagrant?
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2181[12:54:33] <babilen> You can purge firefox by running
"apt purge firefox"
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2185[12:55:35] <nicknight> babilen: ok thanks but iceweasel is
not allowing me translate
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2191[12:56:15] <babilen> You just said that you don't need
firefox
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2192[12:56:27] <nicknight> yes
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2194[12:56:36] <nicknight> if iceweasel translate
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2196[12:56:59] <folivora> babilen: the API does not support
cloud-init. Any other options which I could use in the image ?
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2197[12:57:06] <babilen> Why don't you want to install
firefox from the *Debian* repositories?
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2198[12:57:18] <nicknight> babilen how?
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2199[12:57:19] <babilen> folivora: Which API?
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2200[12:57:30] <babilen> nicknight: "apt purge firefox ; apt
install firefox-esr"
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2201[12:57:33] <SynrG> Also, what do you mean by
"translate"?
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2202[12:57:39] <babilen> Yeah .. ^^
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2203[12:57:44] <babilen> translate from what to what?
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2204[12:57:50] <nicknight> languages
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2205[12:57:56] <nicknight> like chinese to english
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2206[12:57:59] <nicknight> etc
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2207[12:58:01] <SynrG> I wonder if they are just missing
localisation
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2209[12:58:17] <babilen> Are you referring to something like
Google translate?
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2210[12:58:26] <SynrG> Oh. Since when was this a feature of
Firefox?
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2211[12:58:34] <babilen> Either way .. Firefox is in Debian. It
might just be that nicknight wants a newer version.
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2213[12:58:53] <folivora> babilen: API which I use to kickup the
clones ...
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2215[12:59:01] <babilen> SynrG: My working hypothesis is that
nicknight uses a plugin/extension for that, which is not supported
in the FF/IW version in jessie.
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2216[12:59:28] <nicknight> babilen: correct
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2217[12:59:33] <nicknight> iceweasel old version
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2218[13:00:09] <babilen> SynrG: I'm off for a little while.
Might be a good idea to walk nicknight through configuring
jessie-backports, removing firefox from mint and then installing the
version from backports. vagrant might have to be downloaded from
vagrantup.com
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2219[13:00:23] <babilen> nicknight: That is why I asked if you
require a specific version of firefox
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2220[13:00:24] <babilen> :)
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2221[13:00:29] <babilen> brb
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2222[13:00:34] <SynrG> nicknight: do you know what the minimum
version of Firefox is that supports your translate extension?
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2223[13:01:07] <SynrG> nicknight: also what version of vagrant do
you require?
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2225[13:01:25] <nicknight> SynrGy: I dont know and vagrant I am
using from vagrantup
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2226[13:01:42] <nicknight> Thanks a lot babilen
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2228[13:01:50] <nicknight> now adb tools are installed
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2229[13:01:55] <SynrG> Why? I mean why not from Debian?
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2230[13:02:12] <nicknight> SynrGy: from Debian means from apt ??
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2233[13:02:29] <SynrG> From Debian means not from mint
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2234[13:02:33] <SynrG> Yes, apt
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2236[13:03:02] <nicknight> SynrGy: I dont know why my apt was not
working at hat time so I used all hard methods now I configred my
source list and come here when I face any issue
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2237[13:03:11] <nicknight> Thanks a lot for the support
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2240[13:04:19] <SynrG> nicknight: i mean, what problem did you
have with the Debian vagrant?
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2241[13:04:43] <SynrG> nicknight: did you try to use vagrant from
Debian before trying to use it from vagrantup?
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2242[13:04:46] <nicknight> now I dont know few months back I was
not ble to use apt
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2243[13:04:47] <babilen> nicknight: You really have to switch to
Debian's firefox now
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2247[13:05:03] <nicknight> now I have firefox en
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2248[13:05:03] <babilen> (otherwise you won't get security
updates)
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2249[13:05:14] <nicknight> ESR
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2250[13:05:16] <nicknight> sorry
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2251[13:05:19] <SynrG> ok, good
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2253[13:05:25] <babilen> Yes, that should work
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2254[13:05:29] <rly> How can I find which ext4 file F on an LVM2
volume is stored in a particular sector S on a particular device
file DF?
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2255[13:05:30] <SynrG> nicknight: and does your translate
extension work with this version now?
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2256[13:05:39] <babilen> Could you paste your sources.list again,
nicknight ?
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2257[13:05:46] <nicknight> but one question that first command u
gave thats bash or debian search ?
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2259[13:05:58] <nicknight> babilen: ts same u gave in ur paste
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2260[13:06:10] <SynrG> nicknight: the script babilen gave was a
one-line bourne shell script (not specifically a bash script)
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2264[13:06:52] <SynrG> nicknight: that is, any bourne-compatible
shell on a debian or debian-derivative system would be able to run
it
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2265[13:07:03] <nicknight> ok I want to lern thats why? but it
need regex skills?
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2267[13:07:27] <nicknight> it looked like regex and I feel so
hard
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2268[13:07:35] <SynrG> nicknight: i think there will be time
later to explain what all the parts do, but first, we get everything
fixed on your system.
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2270[13:07:41] <SynrG> nicknight: your system still has
non-Debian vagrant
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2271[13:07:56] <nicknight> SynrGy: ok
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2272[13:08:05] <SynrG> nicknight: i was trying to understand why
you installed that, and not the Debian vagrant
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2274[13:08:14] <nicknight> but vagrantup is officilonly right?
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2275[13:08:40] <SynrG> I don't know.
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2276[13:08:50] <babilen> Okay, you might want to edit that a
little and use:
replaced-url
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2277[13:08:54] <babilen> nicknight: ^
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2279[13:09:18] <babilen> SynrG: A bunch of vagrant plugins
require 1.8+ and there is, unfortunately, no backport
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2280[13:09:27] <babilen> (which might be a reason)
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2281[13:09:28] <nicknight> babilen: SynrGy ok thanks a lot I feel
I reinstall my debian again and come here in few hours
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2282[13:09:36] <nicknight> because I did so many crap things
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2283[13:09:38] <babilen> No, there's no need to reinstall it
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2284[13:09:50] <SynrG> nicknight: what other "crap
things" are you worried about?
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2285[13:09:56] <SynrG> nicknight: the ones you showed us, we
fixed
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2286[13:10:13] <SynrG> nicknight: it is probably OK to continue
to use upstream's vagrant
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2287[13:10:13] <nicknight> I was not able to install skype
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2288[13:10:21] <SynrG> ah. skype is the devil
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2289[13:10:29] <babilen> But also not that hard to install
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2290[13:10:35] <SynrG> yes :)
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2291[13:10:36] <jelly> nicknight: the old client or the new beta?
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2292[13:10:51] <nicknight> I downloaded 64 vit it said debian 7
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2293[13:11:05] <babilen> nicknight: Please start by using the
sources.list I pasted earlier and running "apt update"
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2294[13:11:07] <jelly> pardon, new alpha
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2295[13:11:15] <babilen> jelly: Where do you get the "new
alpha" ?
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2296[13:11:24] <SynrG> nicknight: consider convincing your
friends and colleagues to use webrtc instead. there are many web
sites that do that. and any modern web browser will support it.
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2297[13:11:35] <nicknight> Ok I am doing that
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2298[13:11:37] <jelly> babilen:
replaced-url
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2299[13:11:43] <babilen> Thanks
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2301[13:11:58] <SynrG> nicknight: that being said, if you want to
use skype, go ahead. i just think in the long term, webrtc is a
better technology
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2303[13:12:06] <nicknight> SynrGy: what is webrtc??
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2308[13:12:49] <SynrG> nicknight: new web standard based video
chat
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2310[13:13:11] <SynrG> nicknight:
replaced-url
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2311[13:13:22] <jelly> the nice thing about standards is
there's so many to choose from
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2312[13:13:25] <SynrG> for example,
replaced-url
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2313[13:13:34] <nicknight> web skype ?
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2314[13:13:43] <nicknight> Ok
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2315[13:13:49] <SynrG> all it needs is a modern browser (any
recent firefox, chrome, etc.)
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2318[13:13:55] <babilen> jelly: Does that support video calls?
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2320[13:14:27] <jelly> babilen: haven't tried it yet
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2322[13:15:51] <jelly> apparently it's coinstallable and
corunnable with their old client
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2323[13:15:51] <SynrG> talky.io also supports screen sharing. i
think the chrome support for this is better than firefox (supports
sharing individual windows, whereas firefox, if i recall correctly,
does not)
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2324[13:16:13] <nicknight> Ok Thanks a lot babilen SynrGy I am
leaving and will be back :)
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2325[13:16:20] <SynrG> later
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2327[13:16:52] <SynrG> nicknight: so i hope you did fix your
sources.list like babilen said. it was unclear if you did.
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2328[13:17:14] <nicknight> I fixed that
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2329[13:17:17] <SynrG> good
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2330[13:17:23] <nicknight> and also installed adb tools from apt
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2331[13:17:27] <nicknight> its working now
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2332[13:17:30] <nicknight> :)
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2334[13:17:31] <SynrG> excellent
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2336[13:17:41] <nicknight> Yo :)
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2359[13:32:44] <choice> When in the Grub menu, can I get into a
shell and manually mount an encrypted partition?
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2366[13:36:37] <DoctorD90> Guys, on live distro, I find out 2
kernel option 586/686 pae...How may I accomplish the same on my
chrooted system?
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2370[13:37:25] <quantomworks> hokay. How do I get wine and mono
to work so I can run this exe
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2372[13:37:44] <quantomworks> im using ExaGear with raspbian but
all the .net installs have failed and mono is glitching otu the
program
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2374[13:37:57] <quantomworks> I tried crossover. crossover cant
do it
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2375[13:38:03] <quantomworks> I tried several version of mono
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2376[13:38:11] <quantomworks> and im about to flip all of the
tables
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2377[13:38:39] <quantomworks> here is my attempt with wine and
mono
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2378[13:38:41] <quantomworks> under exagear
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2379[13:38:42] <quantomworks>
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2380[13:38:53] <quantomworks> Im trying to run the program
flashdevelop
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2381[13:38:56] <monoxane> who summoned thy
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2382[13:38:58] <monoxane> oh
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2383[13:39:02] <monoxane> mono shit
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2384[13:39:05] <spacemn> DoctorD90: pae is kernel related
(physical address extension), I think the option on a live image is
available at boot time
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2385[13:39:09] <SynrG> DoctorD90: i think you may have understood
what a chroot is
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2386[13:39:09] * monoxane disappears
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2387[13:39:10] <quantomworks> monoxane lol sorry
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2388[13:39:45] <quantomworks> should I just go for an older
version of wine vs 1.8.1?
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2389[13:39:53] <quantomworks> mono is version 3.2.8
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2391[13:39:59] <jelly> quantomworks: if you're on raspbian,
you ought to ask in #raspbian channel
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2392[13:39:59] <quantomworks> but wine cant install anything .net
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2393[13:40:11] <quantomworks> #jelly this is arm based and
raspbian is quiet..
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2394[13:40:14] <quantomworks> .i mean
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2395[13:40:16] <quantomworks> x8
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2396[13:40:17] <SynrG> !raspbian
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2397[13:40:17] <dpkg> Raspbian is a distribution <based on
Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian
is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use
#raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support.
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2398[13:40:18] <quantomworks> x86
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2399[13:40:22] <jelly> wine typically works better on x86
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2400[13:40:24] <quantomworks> : /
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2402[13:40:41] <quantomworks> i mean im running it using Exagear
which is a arm to x86 translator like Qemu
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2403[13:40:55] <unborn> quantomworks: wine is polite but sort of
rubbish.. if you need to install proper windows apps I suggest you
to go with virtualbox or vmware..
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2404[13:40:58] <jelly> quantomworks: if you can reproduce the
same issue in debian, ask here
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2407[13:41:31] <DoctorD90> SynrG, sorry, I reduce question. Im
trying to create a live cd to hold stuff I need even when I havent
my pc with me. So Im trying to create a live cd. Id like to add
support as wide as I can for live cd :) so I'd like to add
kernel types....like 386-486-586-686...
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2409[13:42:06] <SynrG> DoctorD90: using what tools?
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2411[13:42:17] <jelly> quantomworks: but you have several layers
of stuff like that, it's going to be VERY hard to figure out
what goes wrong
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2412[13:42:18] <quantomworks> unborn: .... can i run virtual box
on -1 gig of ram
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2413[13:42:27] <quantomworks> jelly: exactly..
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2414[13:42:34] <unborn> quantomworks: then I am sorry.
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2416[13:42:48] <quantomworks> Im asking of i can..
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2417[13:42:51] <quantomworks> damn i dont think i can..
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2418[13:43:00] <DoctorD90> I thougth that to run on a 86x or on
an 64x, I should install double of each packages, so I would like to
create 2 different cd, but Id like to add as many support as I can
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2419[13:43:01] <jelly> quantomworks: I'd suggest running the
same tool under x86 and wine for a start, then IF it works, ask the
exagear people
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2420[13:43:17] <quantomworks> ....does debian (or anything in
debians' repo) have some sort of tool that lets u use a USB
stick as extra RAM?
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2421[13:43:23] <DoctorD90> SynrG, some normal software, and some
other a little more specific...a custom cd :)
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2422[13:43:29] <unborn> quantomworks: sure you can.. however I
dont see that much positive to run anything on less then 500mb of
ram or less then - nothing.
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2423[13:43:31] <jelly> quantomworks: it's called "swap
space"
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2424[13:43:33] <SynrG> DoctorD90: with live-build it is easy, but
if you're using that, seek support on #debian-live @
irc.oftc.net
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2425[13:43:51] <unborn> ...not even android system.
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2427[13:43:59] <DoctorD90> SynrG, but is possible?
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2428[13:43:59] <jelly> quantomworks: #raspbian will tell you how
to enable swap in raspbian
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2429[13:44:05] <SynrG> Otherwise, you have been so vague, i
don't know how we can help
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2431[13:44:21] <quantomworks> Raspbian never replies to my
questions..
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2432[13:44:24] <quantomworks> im in there right now
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2433[13:44:28] <quantomworks> no one is even talking --_
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2434[13:44:34] <DoctorD90> i mean, installing from apt-get
linux-image...-686 and some other, may I run them on different arch?
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2435[13:44:35] <jelly> quantomworks: be patient, it's
weekend
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2436[13:44:44] <unborn> ^^^
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2437[13:44:47] <unborn> exactly
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2439[13:44:57] <DoctorD90> or better...a better question, what
happen if I install 2 kernel?
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2441[13:45:52] <SynrG> DoctorD90: if you're concerned about
what happens in a different arch (i386) chroot on an amd64 host,
this works just fine.
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2442[13:45:53] <jelly> DoctorD90: nothing much, grub configures
the one with "latest" version to be booted by default
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2443[13:46:19] <SynrG> DoctorD90: if you're using that
chroot to build a live system, you just install multiple kernels as
usual inside the chroot.
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2444[13:46:23] <jelly> kernels inside chroot are not really
useful
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2445[13:46:27] <SynrG> DoctorD90: and configure your boot manager
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2446[13:46:42] <SynrG> jelly: i think this is to prep the live
system. the chroot will be used to image a live system.
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2447[13:46:52] <jelly> ah, I'm missing context
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2448[13:46:52] <SynrG> eventually
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2449[13:47:02] <SynrG> jelly: but DoctorD90 is vague about the
tools used ...
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2450[13:47:12] <SynrG> as i said, with live-build, this is easy.
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2451[13:47:16] <DoctorD90> SynrG, jelly but when I install
..."hexchat" for example, it will download multiple
architecture? and at boot of live cd, it will use the rigth one?
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2452[13:47:17] <SynrG> i don't know why DoctorD90
doesn't just use that.
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2454[13:47:29] <quantomworks> swapspace +vmware it is then
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2456[13:47:35] <DoctorD90> because I have tried it, and I dont
like it very much :P
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2457[13:47:39] <quantomworks> ty jelly and unborn
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2458[13:47:40] <SynrG> DoctorD90: i think you're making
things needlessly complicated, and making it hard for the helpers
here by not sharing enough context.
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2459[13:48:00] <jelly> !goal
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2460[13:48:00] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the
solution is.
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2462[13:48:10] <SynrG> DoctorD90: if you could be more specific
about its failings (on #debian-live @ irc.oftc.net please) then i
can help.
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2466[13:49:20] <SynrG> DoctorD90: i don't understand why you
think multiple architectures will be downloaded for hexchat when
you're inside the chroot.
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2467[13:49:30] <SynrG> DoctorD90: the architecture of the chroot
determines what architecture gets downloaded.
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2468[13:49:36] <SynrG> DoctorD90: not the architecture of the
build host.
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2470[13:50:22] <SynrG> DoctorD90: if you have a specific problem
where you think the wrong arch was downloaded, please explain
exactly what you were trying to do, what commands you typed to do
it, and what the output was (and how it differs from your
expectation)
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2472[13:50:35] <SynrG> DoctorD90: you really *must* be clear when
seeking help here, or else you waste our time
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2473[13:50:53] <DoctorD90> uhm...I would like to create a custom
debian image. I started from a chroot enviorenment, And I can create
an easy live cd. But I have tried only with 1 kernel. So now
i'd like to know if it is possible install multiple arch on the
same live cd. Instead to use 2 iso/image/usb, 1 for 86 pc, and 1 for
64 pc, May I puts all in 1 only iso? and choose the kernel at boot?
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2474[13:51:18] <SynrG> DoctorD90: you are confusing "kernel
flavour" with "architecture"
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2475[13:51:21] <DoctorD90> sorry SynrG you have rigth. Now I
think i was as clear as possible
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2476[13:51:31] <DoctorD90> ah...why?
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2477[13:51:40] <SynrG> DoctorD90: you can have an i386
architecture Debian system and have an amd64 kernel
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2478[13:52:02] <SynrG> DoctorD90: you can have 586 or 686-pae
kernels, too
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2479[13:52:07] <DoctorD90> ?? 0o ..yea..so im confusing about
this...where may I read something about that?
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2481[13:52:24] <elliot007> hey i've to say this is the most
awesome channel and i don't talk much here but still i learn a
lot just by reading the conversation
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2483[13:52:38] <DoctorD90> I just know that 64bit processor can
run 32 system, and 32bit programs. not the viceversa.
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2484[13:52:43] <SynrG> right
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2485[13:52:55] <SynrG> so you cannot make a live image with amd64
architecture that will have a 32-bit kernel
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2486[13:52:58] <SynrG> it simply won't work
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2487[13:53:25] <SynrG> but you *can* make an i386 architecture
live image that has several different kernels
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2488[13:53:31] <SynrG> they are just installed as normal
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2489[13:53:53] <SynrG> so long as your boot manager is configured
properly, the user will be able to select the one they want at boot
time.
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2490[13:54:08] <DoctorD90> yea...this is my target...
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2491[13:54:09] <SynrG> however, that doesn't make the whole
system amd64 (if, e.g., they selected amd64 at boot) but *only* the
kernel
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2492[13:54:19] <SynrG> all of the rest of userspace is still i386
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2493[13:54:34] <unborn> elliot007: silence is golden egg.. you
know that right? :)
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2496[13:54:52] <SynrG> if you wanted all of user space to be
either i386 or amd64, you would have to install two systems on the
same media and configure your boot manager to boot into one or the
other.
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2497[13:55:01] <DoctorD90> yea...im aiming to this...ALL as the
rigth system...kernel 64? programs run 64bit. Kernel 32? progras 32
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2498[13:55:03] <elliot007> unborn: :)
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2500[13:55:25] <SynrG> DoctorD90: that's two different
systems. you can't make a single debian system that does that.
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2501[13:55:43] <SynrG> DoctorD90: while Debian has multiarch
support, it's incomplete. you can't have *everything* on
both architectures on the same system.
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2503[13:56:16] <jelly> debian does have a two-arch _installer_
image, but it's a huge hack
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2504[13:56:22] <SynrG> yep
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2505[13:56:33] <DoctorD90> so it isnt as simple as install both
kernel and install both version for each program?
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2506[13:56:50] <jelly> nope, not yet
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2508[13:57:01] <elliot007> DoctorD90: you can dualboot with both
distros debian and one with 32bit other with 64
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2509[13:57:07] <SynrG> DoctorD90: nope. you'll find that
many things are not co-installable.
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2512[13:57:31] <SynrG> DoctorD90: that is, as soon as you install
a non-co-installable thing from one arch, you cannot have the other
arch installed at the same time.
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2515[13:57:48] <SynrG> DoctorD90: it will conflict.
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2516[13:57:59] <SynrG> !multiarch
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2517[13:58:00] <dpkg> Multiarch allows you to install foreign
architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be
installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386
&& apt-get update». See
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2518[13:58:07] <SynrG> DoctorD90: ^^ this goes into it in more
detail
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2524[13:58:46] <DoctorD90> it is much easier to build 2 different
iso? ok. And talking about normal livecd boot time. I see 586 and
686. How may I get that one? just editing my grub menu?
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2526[13:59:30] <SynrG> yes, building two different ISOs is the
easiest way forward.
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2529[13:59:43] <DoctorD90> nono, I understood my fail. When I
talked about "arch" I would mean entire system, not only
kernel or only userspace(=programs rigth?)
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2530[13:59:44] <SynrG> also, live-build makes it easy to do two
different architecture ISOs from the same config
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2531[14:00:02] <SynrG> it's just changing a single variable
in your auto/config
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2533[14:00:40] <SynrG> as for different kernel flavours, yes,
it's just a matter of having both installed in your chroot, and
having your grub menu have entries for both.
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2534[14:00:49] <DoctorD90> yea I remember, but im enjoying
"learning" (too) starting from only line-by-line creation
starting from a choot env ^_^
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2535[14:00:51] <SynrG> generally, update-grub should be able to
figure it out and automatically generate the menu for you
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2539[14:01:42] <DoctorD90> how manage kernel flavours? when I
apt-cache search for kernel, it just showes me 686 or 386 if i
remmeber well
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2541[14:02:06] <SynrG> DoctorD90: it depends on what Debian
release you're on.
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2542[14:02:13] <SynrG> and also what architecture you're on
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2543[14:02:26] <DoctorD90> at the moment, from my normal
installed debian 8
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2544[14:02:28] <SynrG> what is the architecture and release of
the chroot of the live system you're preparing?
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2545[14:02:28] <DoctorD90> amd64
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2546[14:02:38] <SynrG> the arch of your build system is
irrelevant
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2547[14:02:52] <SynrG> enter the chroot and do your apt-cache
search in there.
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2548[14:02:55] <DoctorD90> i always create a 686-pae,
linux-header and linux-image
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2549[14:03:10] <DoctorD90> ah ok.
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2550[14:03:20] <SynrG> amd64 architecture system *cannot* have a
32-bit kernel as i said before
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2551[14:03:22] <DoctorD90> to looking package to install I use my
installed one
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2552[14:03:29] <SynrG> that's why apt-cache search turns up
nothing
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2553[14:03:34] <SynrG> (except maybe uml?)
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2555[14:03:47] <DoctorD90> yea, but I thougth that apt-cache
showes them at least :)
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2556[14:04:26] <DoctorD90> so a better idea should be search from
site, if (like now) I havent my hdd with chroot folder.
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2557[14:04:57] <SynrG> DoctorD90: i think that's so you can
run those inside a hypervisor or so
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2558[14:05:08] <DoctorD90> hypervisor?
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2560[14:05:16] <SynrG> xen or so
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2561[14:05:25] <DoctorD90> xen? XD what is it? sorry
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2562[14:05:45] <SynrG> do we really have to get into this? i just
mean that the host system's kernel for amd64 must be amd64.
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2564[14:06:06] <SynrG> but there are ways to have a host system
run other systems inside it (i.e. via a hypervisor) but that's
not the "system kernel"
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2565[14:06:30] <SynrG> this explains why apt can find these other
kernels that cannot be system kernels
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2567[14:07:04] <SynrG> annnyway, yes, use packages.debian.org to
search *within the target architecture*
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2568[14:07:20] <SynrG> don't rely on apt-cache search within
your build system, because it's not the same
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2569[14:07:20] <DoctorD90> ah! nono, I dont know hypervisor
meaning like for xen. I read about chroot, so I know I cant do
"cross-building"...I can start on my pc, but then I have
to ocntinue on the machine with rigth hardwre
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2576[14:09:04] <DoctorD90> on debian site I find out: Package
kernel-image-3.16.0-4-586-di (i386) and Package
kernel-image-3.16.0-4-686-pae-di (i386). So I can install them both
and choose which one run at boot. Rigth?
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2577[14:09:15] <DoctorD90> this would be a kernel flavour?
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2579[14:09:46] <unborn> freaking radio does not work meh
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2589[14:13:31] <SynrG> DoctorD90: why would you install -di
kernels? these are only for debian-installer
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2590[14:14:04] <DoctorD90> I dont know :P I just search for
kernels
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2591[14:14:15] <DoctorD90>
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2594[14:14:22] <choice> Hello! Does anybody here have a machine
that supports EFI? How does "ls /boot/efi" look like on
your machine?
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2598[14:14:44] <SynrG> DoctorD90: you want linux-image, not
'kernel'
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2599[14:14:55] <DoctorD90> oh....rigth. My fault.
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2602[14:15:18] <DoctorD90> is rigth to install also
linux-headers?
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2603[14:15:28] <SynrG> DoctorD90: also "limit to an
architecture" in your search
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2605[14:15:34] <SynrG> for i386 (or whichever arch you're
building)
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2611[14:16:26] <DoctorD90> it is there also an amd64 ?? run amd64
on a i386?
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2613[14:17:55] <xenomorph_xx_121> Hi, im running stretch/sid and
getting a delay on boot, it prints 'Starting Modem
Manager' for maybe 10 seconds, then it waits for 90 seconds on
'Waiting for a start job for Network Manager' (or
something like that, im not sure how to get the actual message out
of systemd). Can someone help me to figure this out? Even if its
trying to connect to wifi it shouldnt take that long, and regardless
i'd rather it launch gnome right awa
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2616[14:18:36] <SynrG> DoctorD90: correct. the benefit of having
an amd64 kernel on an i386 architecture system is you can run some
multiarch things (but remember, not *all* multiarch)
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2618[14:18:55] <SynrG> only the ones that don't conflict
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2623[14:19:53] <DoctorD90> so if I have an 64bit processor, I can
run amd64 kernel(i386) but using program at 32bit, instead of using
686-pae kernel?
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2624[14:19:55] <SynrG> xenomorph_xx_121: you may find better help
on #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net, which supports testing and unstable
systems
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2625[14:20:07] <xenomorph_xx_121> SynrG: thanks!
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2626[14:20:25] <SynrG> DoctorD90: correct.
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2627[14:20:34] <xenomorph_xx_121> SynrG: it wont let me join,
says i need an invitation
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2628[14:20:45] <choice> Am I correct that to restore the boot
process /boot was destroyed completely, the steps are like this? 1)
update-initramfs -c 2) grub-install /dev/sda 3) update-grub
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2629[14:20:46] <SynrG> xenomorph_xx_121: you missed the @
irc.oftc.net part
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2630[14:20:53] <SynrG> xenomorph_xx_121: i.e. not on this network
(freenode)
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2631[14:20:58] <xenomorph_xx_121> SynrG: ah so i did. thanks
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2633[14:21:24] <DoctorD90> oh...great...so Id may accomplish to
get a *multiarch* system...so instead to be limited at 686pae, I may
use a *complete* amd64 support....uhm.... SynrG jelly thx as always!
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2634[14:21:43] <quantomworks> my system is CRAWLING
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2635[14:22:22] <SynrG> DoctorD90: i have never done a multiarch
live system before, but yes, in theory, that works :) except for the
"complete" part. like i said, not everything is
coinstallable on such a system
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2636[14:23:01] <SynrG> DoctorD90: but you could run some key
applications as amd64, perhaps. i think this might get a little
complex for the user, though
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2637[14:23:06] <DoctorD90> yea..it just run kernel in 64bit mode,
but it runs all programs/OS in 32bit....understood...
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2638[14:23:22] <DoctorD90> SynrG, next stepes :)
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2639[14:23:29] <SynrG> because the user would need to know how to
start the 64 bit vs. 32 bit versions of the same applications.
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2640[14:23:57] <DoctorD90> my target now is to run my livecd on
uefi system and protected bios...
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2642[14:24:24] <SynrG> that's ambitious. debian doesn't
support secure boot.
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2643[14:24:34] <SynrG> you generally need to disable that
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2644[14:24:47] <DoctorD90> yea...I know :( ..but at least uefi :P
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2645[14:24:53] <SynrG> uefi is fine, yes.
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2646[14:25:01] <DoctorD90> I remember that on some pc secure boot
isnt editable
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2648[14:25:05] <DoctorD90> oh really?
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2649[14:25:15] <DoctorD90> oh..well...maybe i mis-remeber
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2650[14:25:23] <SynrG> you can boot a uefi system, but you
can't have secure boot debian.
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2651[14:25:42] <DoctorD90> ah ok, so Im at 50% of my target XD
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2652[14:25:52] <DoctorD90> uefi support comes by default?
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2653[14:25:54] <SynrG> and it's a big, *big* task
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2654[14:26:02] <SynrG> don't expect it to be something you
can solve by yourself.
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2657[14:26:14] <SynrG> just wait and see. there are hundreds of
bugs filed on debian to make it happen.
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2659[14:26:28] <DoctorD90> I know about some utilities/tools that
convert isos to runnable...but I dont like them
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2660[14:26:36] <DoctorD90> yea...I know....
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2661[14:26:36] <SynrG> from what i've seen of the progress
to date, stretch will not get secure boot.
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2662[14:26:46] <unborn> SynrG: what you are on about? are your
seeking help or you just post it mess out?
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2663[14:26:48] <SynrG> maybe in the release after.
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2664[14:26:49] <DoctorD90> what??? really? ..oh :(
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2666[14:27:09] <SynrG> unborn: we're in a discussion in
which I'm the helper and DoctorD90 is the helpee.
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2667[14:27:17] <SynrG> unborn: if you can't be arsed to read
the backlog ...
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2669[14:27:36] <SynrG> unborn: maybe you just want to ignore this
one :)
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2670[14:27:41] <DoctorD90> helpee? not helped? ...an other thing
lernt.
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2672[14:27:56] <SynrG> DoctorD90: helpee is not proper english
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2673[14:27:57] <unborn> SynrG: again what you on about? - I do
read the logs same as anyone else here :)
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2674[14:28:03] <DoctorD90> ah ok.
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2675[14:28:13] <SynrG> unborn: most recently? this:
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2676[14:28:27] <SynrG> [09:23:57] <DoctorD90> my target now
is to run my livecd on uefi system and protected bios...
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2677[14:28:30] <DoctorD90> unborn, SynrG was helping me abut
kernel srelated stuuf
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2679[14:28:56] <SynrG> DoctorD90: but prior to that, helping
DoctorD90 understand the concepts behind building a live image (from
scratch) with multiple kernel flavours
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2683[14:29:04] <unborn> :) sure.. have fun..
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2684[14:29:10] <DoctorD90> yea thx :D
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2685[14:30:10] <DoctorD90> SynrG, and linux-headers are intented
to compile some stuff from source, rigth?
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2690[14:32:13] <SynrG> DoctorD90: kernel modules built from
source, mostly
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2691[14:32:41] <SynrG> DoctorD90: it is not something most users
need. maybe if they have some out-of-tree kernel modules, though
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2692[14:32:43] <DoctorD90> ok, so I do rigth to installl them to.
Some times I need them. SynrG many many thx you!
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2693[14:32:48] <SynrG> ok
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2694[14:32:54] <SynrG> good luck :)
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2695[14:32:58] <DoctorD90> one wifi dongle :P
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2696[14:33:02] <SynrG> ugh
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2697[14:33:18] <DoctorD90> it gives some error with network
manager :P
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2699[14:34:18] <DoctorD90> ah...I find out a "bug" with
network manager on gnome...I cant find out how disconnect from a
network without shut down network card. But If I re-enable it, nm
will auto connect it again
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2700[14:34:43] <DoctorD90> it isnt there a "disconnect"
button..or at least, I havent seen it
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2706[14:37:07] <SynrG> DoctorD90: so far as I can remember, the
NetworkManager gnome applet has a left-click menu and for any
connected networks, there is a "Disconnect" option.
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2711[14:38:33] <DoctorD90> nothing to do :P
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2720[14:41:20] <SynrG> DoctorD90: i don't know how it is
with NM, but if you don't have a session set up properly, your
user may not have been granted the necessary permissions to do
things (e.g. shutdown the system and so forth)
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2723[14:41:54] <SynrG> DoctorD90: how is the session started?
normally starting with lightdm, gdm, etc. will start it properly.
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2727[14:42:06] <DoctorD90> nono, sorry. Im speaking on my normal
installed system. I installed this one from official live cd netbase
:)
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2729[14:42:24] <DoctorD90> automatically starts gnome at boot
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2730[14:42:46] <SynrG> if you have a "minimal" gnome
install, it might be missing some options, is what i mean
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2731[14:42:56] <SynrG> if you did a normal install of gnome, then
that option should be there.
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2732[14:43:11] <hk238> SynrGy I probably have a similar issue,
possibly, is there something gnome related that you could download
for an example? :d
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2733[14:43:42] <SynrG> i am really not the one to ask about this.
it has been a very long time since i ran gnome :)
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2735[14:43:57] <SynrG> all i know is on lxde with lightdm +
network-manager-gnome, it "just works"
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2736[14:44:04] <SynrG> and this is on a Stretch system, not
Jessie
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2737[14:44:28] <SynrG> so maybe someone with a more normal Jessie
system could comment :)
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2738[14:44:40] <hk238> I got that stretch too though I didnt know
what it means. But now I know it's one of jessie and stretch
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2743[14:45:28] <hk238> hmm speaking of which Im trying to install
this `hot corn dog` named extension for gnome shell, it's
supposed to allow customizing the ` hot corners ` feature, but it
doesnt seem to work
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2745[14:45:36] <hk238> anyone know about that kind of thing? :d
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2748[14:46:17] <SynrG> hk238: stretch is 'testing' and
it is supported on #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net
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2749[14:46:33] <hk238> oh.. oops
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2754[14:47:05] <DoctorD90> hehe...lxde? hehe...btw...normal
install :) but ok...thx SynrG !!
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2755[14:47:06] <SynrG> hk238: as for installation of third-party
gnome extensions, no, we don't support those ... also, be aware
such extensions may need a very specific version of gnome to work.
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2756[14:47:33] <SynrG> DoctorD90: and not even "pure"
lxde :) i don't run pcmanfm, for example. it's on a system
with 2G ram
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2757[14:47:38] <hk238> yeah it does seem pretty buggy and
it's not surprising either I guess.. Ah and I thought it was
going to be so easy
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2758[14:47:39] <hk238> :D
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2759[14:47:49] <DoctorD90> xD
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2760[14:48:04] <SynrG> hk238: well, when i got tired of tinkering
with gnome3 to make it look nice at the office, i switched to
cinnamon and am happier
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2761[14:48:05] <DoctorD90> I would like to run mate...it seems
very similar to my loved gnome2...
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2762[14:48:14] <DoctorD90> and much ligther than gnome3 i think
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2763[14:48:26] <hk238> it seemed very similar at a glance :o
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2764[14:48:27] <SynrG> cinnamon is gnome3-ish without all of the
frustrating design choices of gnome3
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2765[14:48:45] <hk238> there is a bunch of frustrating features
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2766[14:48:51] <hk238> I have to google stuff like `how to show
desktop` :D
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2770[14:48:57] <SynrG> yes. :p
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2772[14:48:59] <hk238> you'd think that wouldn't be an
issue
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2774[14:49:13] <unborn> hk238: gnome extentions are supported by
debian however you are very much well adviced to read about issues
on practical gnome version you are going to apply.. just read
comment bellow the extension name - however in current stable gnome
enviro - just install those who supports it and you will be fine
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2775[14:49:22] <SynrG> well, they wanted to wean users off the
whole desktop paradigm ... because it tended to get cluttered ...
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2777[14:49:26] <SynrG> and users would "lose" stuff
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2778[14:49:26] <unborn> - means you will be okay
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2779[14:49:55] <SynrG> i think they meant well. but for those of
us who were used to (and comfortable with) the old paradigm, it was
frustrating
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2781[14:50:21] <hk238> I like the desktop, it's fine if
people don't want to use it, but trying to artificially block
it with having.. these obstacles, doesn't seem purposeful :d
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2782[14:50:34] <SynrG> hk238: i like cinnamon's combo
menu/search. a better compromise that handles huge menus without
throwing away the old menu paradigm entirely
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2783[14:50:49] <hk238> like lemme show you one sec
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2784[14:50:51] <SynrG> hk238: consider also using
"whisker" for xfce, which is a similar menu/search
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2789[14:52:21] <SynrG> hk238: to qualify what unborn said, debian
supports gnome extensions that are in debian. debian does not
support third-party gnome extensions. we support the ability to
*install* those extensions, but you're on your own if they
break
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2791[14:52:42] <SynrG> you generally need to seek help from
upstream if-and-when that happens
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2794[14:53:04] <DoctorD90> 1 time ago, I remember that ubuntu
listed all requirement for each *de...know I cant find it more...it
would be good according to me, that somewhere would be listed the
ram requirement for each *de :)
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2795[14:53:25] <hk238> yeah i was using xfce before starting to
configure gnome and I liked it
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2796[14:53:30] <Errorrouss> Hello, are debian packages of
mysql-server safe in terms of security?
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2798[14:53:55] <Errorrouss> What is a policy of security in
debian
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2799[14:54:01] <hk238> it wasn't quite as pleasant
aesthetically, but more convenient, I thought I could just configure
gnome and get best of both worlds.. it's harder than I thought
:D
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2803[14:54:45] <hk238> hmm I cant drag a file into the window
bar.. any ideas how yuo can send a picture to pasteboard from
nautilus? :d
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2804[14:54:47] <SynrG> !tell Errorrouss about dsa
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2805[14:54:47] <unborn> Errorrouss: yeah
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2807[14:55:21] <hk238> nevremind
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2810[14:55:38] <unborn> they are latest Errorrouss however - your
server will be secured as much as you do - to secure all holes -
what kind of questions you are proposing to deal with??
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2813[14:56:16] <SynrG> hk238: between gnome-tweak-tool and
dconf-editor, and some third-party extensions, i managed to stay
somewhat happy with gnome3 in prior incarnations of it in debian
testing ... but since a few years ago, the switch to cinnamon at
work and lxde at home makes me happier :)
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2816[14:56:34] <Errorrouss> unborn: more or less shall I use in
production environment Debian packages of mysql, web server ( apache
or nginx ) and then services like Wordpress, or phpBB
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2817[14:56:37] <SynrG> i'm out. family stuff. later, folks.
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2818[14:56:46] <hk238>
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2819[14:56:47] <Errorrouss> or install them from sources/gitrepos
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2820[14:57:05] <unborn> Errorrouss: if you think you will install
some package and its secure - sure it is by its own mention - then
you fine but on server - deploy some security solution or - die :)
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2822[14:57:23] <Errorrouss> unborn: solution like?
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2823[14:57:30] <Errorrouss> i mean what do you mean :D
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2825[14:57:34] <dampie> hi
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2829[14:57:59] <dampie> anyone active here?
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2830[14:58:03] <hk238> I mean it's not perfect or anything,
but I cant substitute the functionality all that easily :d
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2831[14:58:06] <Errorrouss> dampie: a lot of people
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2833[14:58:56] <dampie> Errorrouss: awesome, I just came from
irc.oftc.net because there wasn't any activity in 30 minutes
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2837[14:59:19] <hk238> speaking of which I wonder if the
keyboard.. nope right. Is it possible to make the keyboard layout
change so that `while you hold winR` the 2nd layout becomes active?
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2838[14:59:32] <dampie> cound anyone help me fix my resolv.conf
being completely emptied every few minutes?
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2841[14:59:58] <Errorrouss> dampie: fresh install? Or you updated
system?
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2842[15:00:25] <dampie> Errorrouss: I'm on a pretty old
jessie install, been using it for about a year
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2844[15:00:51] <Errorrouss> dampie: you ran apt-get upgrade?
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2846[15:00:56] <dampie> Errorrouss: I don't usually have
this problem but this particular hotspot has been a pain to work
with
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2847[15:01:06] <Errorrouss> ah thats on hotspot
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2849[15:01:27] <Errorrouss> dampie: maybe that hotspot its fscked
up? :D
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2850[15:01:32] <dampie> I can always connect to the internet
(i.e. ping 8.8.8.8) but not resolve domain names
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2852[15:01:48] <dampie> Errorrouss: it probably is! My Android
phone still manages to use it though
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2853[15:01:55] <Errorrouss> dampie: try to set it read only xD
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2854[15:02:04] <dampie> :')
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2856[15:02:41] <dampie> Errorrouss: sudo chmod -r
/etc/resolv.conf ? :D
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2857[15:03:06] <Errorrouss> may be I dont have manual page for
chmod in my head xD
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2861[15:04:47] <dampie> Errorrouss: I think it might just work
(though with -w instead of -r) but would you happen to know how to
find out which tool is overwriting resolv.conf?
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2862[15:05:28] <Errorrouss> There is daemon monitoring what opens
files but dont remember name xD
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2865[15:05:48] <Errorrouss> It should by also doable from console
I think in case of apps
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2866[15:05:57] <dampie> You mean auditctl?
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2867[15:07:04] <Errorrouss> i dont remember bro, just check man
page if it does what you need then feel free to use it w/o asking me
for permission xD
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2870[15:08:26] <dampie> Errorrouss: thanks for the help, and the
permission to look stuff up without your permission :p
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2874[15:09:28] <han-solo> lsof will show which files are opened
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2877[15:10:55] <spacemn> or fuser, but I don't think they
are useful in this case
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2878[15:11:18] <dampie> han-solo: thanks, but I think
NetworkManager (or whatever's touching my resolv.conf) only
opens it for sub-second period, gonna be hard to run lsof at exactly
the right time
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2880[15:11:54] <dampie> han-solo: same goes for fuser
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2881[15:12:03] <dampie> I'm gonna try auditd, hope that does
the trick
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2882[15:12:19] <han-solo> you can watch it real time, with watch
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2885[15:12:53] <han-solo> well, not for sub-seconds, maybe :)
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2889[15:13:52] <Errorrouss> you can always write a kernel module
to watch what opens that file and log every access xD
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2891[15:14:07] <spacemn> dampie: there are a few packages in
debian that modify resolv.conf
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2896[15:16:08] <dampie> Errorrouss: I'll look into it once
I've worked through Rust, Docker, Vagrant, salt, SELinux,
AppArmor, IUP, Debian packaging and nginx!
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2899[15:16:56] <Drzacek> Hello
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2900[15:17:16] <dampie> Drzacek: hi
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2903[15:17:35] <spacemn> dampie: have you tried to put a fixed
DNS in the NM config?
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2906[15:18:13] <Errorrouss> dampie: it would not be long code,
you just have to monitor one or maybe 2 or 3 system calls
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2909[15:18:26] <Drzacek> So I'm performing debian net
install right now, and I'm at the point where I choose software
packages to install. Which of the GUIs are smallest (take least
place on disk) - GNOME and KDE are no go, since they are huge, but
Xfce LXDE MATE Cinnamon? Do I assume correctly, that Qt applications
will work on each of them?
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2910[15:18:26] <afx_> hello ! can anyone recommend a safe to use
alternative to dropbox?
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2915[15:18:54] <Errorrouss> Drzacek: you are ok with tiling
window managers? xD
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2916[15:18:55] <dampie> spacemn: I tried adding two additional
DNS servers via nm-applet and also using DHCP for just addressing
(explicitly not for DNS settings)
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2917[15:19:02] <Errorrouss> Drzacek: you can always choose LXDE
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2920[15:19:30] <Errorrouss> Drzacek: if it did not get fat in
last few years it shall be quiet small
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2923[15:19:46] <dampie> Drzacek: LXDE and XFCE are both quite
small, but LXDE is the smallest "full-featured" DE's.
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2925[15:19:57] <Drzacek> define full-featured
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2926[15:20:08] <dampie> Drzacek: Qt, KDE and whatever
applications will work with all of them.
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2928[15:20:12] <Drzacek> I have 3.7gb flash card for my OS
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2930[15:20:22] <Errorrouss> Drzacek: it has calculator, terminal
emulator, notepad like program
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2931[15:20:29] <dampie> Drzacek: LXDE should be fine
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2933[15:20:35] <Errorrouss> It's so called Desktop
Environment
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2936[15:21:13] <dampie> Drzacek: it's also really easy to
use i3 with one of those DE's, that's what I do (install a
DE, install i3, choose i3 as window manager in the login screen and
you're set)
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2937[15:21:24] <Errorrouss> Drzacek: and if you need really small
window manager then go fluxbox, or any tiling window manager if you
prefer tiling window managers
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2939[15:21:57] <dampie> Errorrouss: is fluxbox any
smaller/lighter than openbox which comes with LXDE?
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2940[15:22:07] <Drzacek> tiling?
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2941[15:22:18] <hexadecimal>
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2942[15:22:36] <Errorrouss> dampie: well it could be but we have
to check that. xD
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2943[15:22:47] <Drzacek> well, I don't really need
calculator, notepad etc, it's not gonna be desktop machine, but
I guess I can always cherry-pick stuff to remove?
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2945[15:23:05] <Errorrouss> Drzacek: then go with fluxbox
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2947[15:23:29] <Errorrouss> hexadecimal: its real or gimped? xD
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2948[15:23:33] <spacemn> dampie: do you have the resolvconf
package installed maybe?
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2953[15:24:43] <hexadecimal> Half real, mirrored with gimp.
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2955[15:24:47] <dampie> spacemn: I don't, at least
resolvconf is not a command and doesn't have a man page
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2959[15:25:30] <Errorrouss> hexadecimal: xD
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2962[15:26:07] <Errorrouss> hexadecimal: which movie is it? Judge
Dredd?
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2965[15:26:52] <hexadecimal> Errorrouss: demolition man
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2970[15:29:18] <dampie> I'm just going to go home and use my
own wifi again...
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2977[15:30:52] <hexadecimal> How about awesome or i3 dampie?
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2979[15:30:58] <spacemn> dampie: resolvconf has a list (from
2005) with probably 20 packages or more that use/used to modify
resolv.conf
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2980[15:31:09] <Errorrouss> hexadecimal: only DWM man, only DWM
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2981[15:31:16] <Errorrouss> i3 is an overkill
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2982[15:31:24] <hexadecimal> :p
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2997[15:36:25] <Errorrouss> I had somoe moments of hate for
Debian, but than I'v tried Arch for few years and not so long
time ago I run with problems with packages on Fedora. apt-get FTW
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3011[15:41:46] <Errorrouss> WHO ELSE WERE PRODIGAL SON JUST LIKE
ME? xD
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3012[15:42:31] <hexadecimal> ...
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3015[15:43:06] <Errorrouss> hexadecimal: just fooling around
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3017[15:43:28] <hexadecimal> Errorrouss: #debian-offtopic <-
It's fun, you should come.
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3018[15:43:28] <han-solo> what's sunrpc for?
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3020[15:44:02] <spacemn> han-solo: IIRC netfs
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3021[15:44:02] <han-solo> the port 111?
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3022[15:44:18] <Errorrouss> remote procedure call
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3024[15:44:45] <han-solo> so i shouldn't probably leave it
open, right?
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3025[15:44:47] <Errorrouss>
replaced-url
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3027[15:45:17] <Errorrouss> han-solo: if ou need to have any
procedures to be called on your box
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3028[15:45:23] <Errorrouss> from outside
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3029[15:45:36] <han-solo> okay
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3030[15:45:43] <Strykar> I've set "AllowOverride
All" in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and restarted but Apache
won't ask for a password and still serves the directory. Is
there someplace else I need to edit to enable .htaccess? users and
htpasswd file are created
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3031[15:45:45] <han-solo> i don't need that for now
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3033[15:45:56] <Errorrouss> han-solo: making iptables rules?
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3034[15:46:13] <han-solo> nah, i just run a scan and found 2 open
ports
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3035[15:46:22] <han-solo> which is weird, since i didn't
specify any
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3037[15:47:00] <Errorrouss> han-solo: they are avaible from
outside or just at loopback?
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3039[15:47:35] <han-solo> i checked the inet address
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3040[15:47:39] <han-solo> ppp0
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3042[15:48:20] <Strykar> argh, apparently I can't spell
htacess :(
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3048[15:49:23] <han-solo> nc is a very handy tool, i must say
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3049[15:49:39] <Errorrouss> ya
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3057[15:53:38] <garyserj> Strykar: it's worth spelling
something correctly at least when you say you can't spell it
right, otherwise it's not surprising you spell it wrongly all
the time, you actually intentionally practise spelling it wrongly
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3066[15:57:53] <Ansem> so if #debian-next is invite only, how
does one get the invite?
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3067[15:58:12] <babilen> You don't, the channel is on
irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) and not on this network
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3070[15:58:44] <Shentino> lmao
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3071[15:58:45] <Ansem> oh
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3072[15:58:48] <Ansem> lel'd ok
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3076[15:58:59] <babilen> See you there :)
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3080[16:00:53] <maxcell_> what is debian next
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3082[16:01:08] <maxcell_> just a channel, or a name of a
futureproject
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3083[16:01:16] <Delf> Is there a way to find out when the current
installed Debian version was installed? Logs?
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3084[16:01:45] <hexadecimal> Delf: uname -a
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3085[16:01:52] <themill> Delf: /var/log/installer
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3087[16:01:59] <Errorrouss> hexadecimal: that just informs when
was kernel compiled
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3089[16:02:04] <Delf> themill: I just noticed
/var/log/installer/syslog :) Thank you
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3090[16:02:19] <Delf> Asked a question prematurely, my bad
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3091[16:02:30] <hexadecimal> I totally misread the question
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3092[16:03:03] <Errorrouss> Delf: ok, then prepare for your
meeting with firing squad!
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3094[16:03:29] <babilen> Delf: /var/log/installer/syslog would
give you information about the first version of Debian you installed
and not necessarily the current one (e.g. a box was installed as
wheezy, but has since been upgraded to jessie)
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3096[16:03:43] <babilen> Delf: But that is probably exactly what
you want to know :)
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3097[16:04:12] <maxcell_> when i create a ssh server, and create
RSA keys to access my PC from my Smartphone i need to have RSA
Public or Private key on my Phone? To access my PC, where the SSH
server is on (deb)
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3099[16:04:45] <Errorrouss> maxcell_: provate obviously
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3101[16:04:53] <maxcell_> Thank you
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3102[16:05:06] <babilen> maxcell_: It's just a channel in
which we support users of testing and unstable
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3106[16:05:57] <maxcell_> babilen, what you mean
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3108[16:06:39] <babilen> maxcell_:
replaced-url
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3112[16:07:24] <maxcell_> babilen, you mean i cant ask about
Servers question?
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3113[16:07:25] <babilen> That explains the way in which new
Debian releases are being developed. Some people track unstable or
unstable/testing directly and would seek support in #debian-next
rather than #debian.
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3115[16:07:57] <babilen> maxcell_: You asked "what is debian
next"
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3116[16:08:08] <maxcell_> babilen, oh im sorry babilen
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3117[16:08:27] <maxcell_> babilen, got it, make sense, they seek
support for the next versions
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3119[16:09:20] <babilen> exactly
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3120[16:09:39] <thongLicker> I wanted bare-bones x, so after
fresh install of jessie, I did aptitude install xorg fluxbox. But
when when I try startx, system kick me back to command line and
hangs...
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3123[16:10:26] <thongLicker> Are there any extra steps to take to
make x work?
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3124[16:10:47] <maxcell_> thongLicker, sounds like you didnt
configure your video card. And, you put fluxbox in your .xinitrc
file?
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3127[16:11:13] <jusss> I found my debian often shut down when I
download somethings, and my storage is mmc, so it's mmc
problem?
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3129[16:11:35] <jusss> do I need to install some mmc stuff?
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3130[16:12:35] <jusss> thongLicker: you should check the Xorg.log
I think
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3131[16:12:42] <Errorrouss> jusss: what system log says?
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3132[16:13:00] <jusss> thongLicker: maybe config
/etc/x11/X/xorg.conf
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3133[16:13:06] <Errorrouss> thongLicker: ya you have to lick a
thong
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3135[16:13:17] <Errorrouss> xD
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3136[16:13:17] <thongLicker> maxcell, it used to have gnome on it
with empty xorg.conf, so I thought configuration was not needed....
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3138[16:13:39] <maxcell_> thongLicker, just delete de xorg.conf
file then
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3139[16:13:45] <maxcell_> thongLicker, i think your problem is
.xinitrc
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3141[16:14:01] <jusss> Errorrouss: I don't know where I can
find the log
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3143[16:14:07] <maxcell_> thongLicker, do you have ~/.xinitrc
file?
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3145[16:14:18] <Errorrouss> jusss: /var/log/messages
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3146[16:14:28] <thongLicker> maxcell: never had that file
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3147[16:14:29] <jusss> Errorrouss: ok, I will check it
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3150[16:15:16] <maxcell_> thongLicker, the command startx read
that file when start the X (xorg)
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3151[16:15:33] <jusss> thongLicker: just try `Xorg :0 vt1&
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3152[16:15:47] <jusss> Xorg :0 vt1&
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3154[16:15:57] <jusss> twm -display :1&
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3155[16:16:06] <jusss> :0
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3156[16:16:07] <Kobaz> arg, so
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3157[16:16:11] <maxcell_> thongLicker, you gotta copy that file
from /etc/skel or something and put in the last line: fluxbox &
so when you run "startx" it start de Xorg and Fluxbox
right after
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3158[16:16:18] <Kobaz> grub-install --modules"mdraid1x"
/dev/sda
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3159[16:16:29] <Kobaz> but grub2 is still not detecting md
devices
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3162[16:17:34] <zykotick9> thongLicker: ahhh, in .xinitrc
don't use "fluxbox &" put "exec
flubxox" as the last line, so when fluxbox quits - so does
xorg.
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3164[16:17:53] <maxcell_> jusss, Xorg :0 vt1&, why vt1 in the
end of the command? what that means
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3167[16:18:15] <thongLicker> zykotick9, thanks!
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3169[16:18:30] <maxcell_> thongLicker, he is right, exec fluxbox
& i forget the exec
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3171[16:18:46] <jusss> maxcell_: I forget what it means...
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3172[16:18:51] <thongLicker> maxcell_, thanks!
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3175[16:19:07] <maxcell_> thongLicker, it will work
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3177[16:19:44] <maxcell_> jusss, oh sure, i was just curious
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3181[16:21:26] <Kobaz> rub a dub grub
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3183[16:22:04] <hellyeah> i am using debian jessie
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3185[16:22:15] <hellyeah> how can i check i am using nvidia
properity or free driver?
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3186[16:22:21] <Errorrouss> hellyeah: that sounds so wrong xD
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3187[16:22:40] <hellyeah> Errorrouss: why? :D
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3188[16:22:52] <Errorrouss> hellyeah: "Im using Jessie"
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3189[16:22:54] <Errorrouss> xD
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3190[16:23:08] <thongLicker> hellyeah, if you didn't
manually install nvdia driver, you are using the free driver
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3191[16:23:11] <hellyeah> Errorrouss: lets be jessie's
brother. Embrace me :D
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3193[16:24:03] <hellyeah> thongLicker: still problem with quad
graphic card?
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3197[16:24:05] <at_zqp> x-fak: Hi
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3198[16:24:05] <at_zqp> x-fak: Slm
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3200[16:24:16] <zykotick9> hellyeah: you could try "lspci -k
| egrep -i 'vga|in use' | grep -i vga -A 1" and see
Kernel driver in use
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3203[16:24:52] <hellyeah> it uses free driver
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3204[16:24:57] <hellyeah> novau.
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3205[16:24:59] <hellyeah> .
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3206[16:25:31] <Errorrouss> Is novsomething safe enough to not
fry graphic card? xD
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3207[16:25:48] <zykotick9> nouveau
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3208[16:25:55] <Errorrouss> I remember reading it did fry some
cards in the past
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3210[16:26:01] <at_zqp> command: Slm
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3211[16:26:04] <command> !p
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3213[16:26:04] <dpkg> methinks p is 1. piano (musical direction)
2. proton
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3214[16:26:06] <jusss> Errorrouss: I checked /var/log/messages,
it don't metion mmc and it seems normal, should I paste it?
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3216[16:26:11] <thongLicker> hellyeah, I don't know... my
video card is a fanless geforce 210 :)
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3220[16:26:32] <hellyeah> last time i checked i could manage to
work this card
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3221[16:26:44] <Errorrouss> jusss: just last 10 lines before
system crashed
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3222[16:26:45] <hellyeah> i guess there is some problems with
quad graphic card
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3224[16:26:55] <Strykar> garyserj, I was intentionally pointing
out the mistake in that spelling. I can see how that could be
misconstrued.
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3225[16:27:28] <jusss> Errorrouss: it suddently doesn't have
any response, not power off
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3227[16:27:34] <thongLicker> I know noveau+cinammon desktop is a
disaster
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3228[16:27:50] <Errorrouss> jusss: ITS ALIVE!
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3229[16:27:57] <Errorrouss> It dont want you to debug it!
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3232[16:28:18] <Errorrouss> It does not share your taste in porn
probably so it shuts itself down!
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3233[16:28:19] <Errorrouss> xDDDD
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3234[16:28:30] <jusss> Errorrouss: but it doesn't have any
response
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3235[16:28:50] <jusss> click, keyboard, nothing
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3237[16:29:15] <Errorrouss> jssjr: so its dead I assume and
shuting down was just a prelude for death
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3238[16:29:31] <Errorrouss> R.I.P. in pepperoni
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3239[16:29:47] <jusss> Errorrouss: that situation how I should
solve?
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3240[16:29:54] <hk238> hmm so what about gnustep, any arguments
for trying that out?
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3243[16:30:19] <Errorrouss> jusss:contact vendor whewre ou bought
it?
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3247[16:31:16] <jusss> Errorrouss: actually it's not
pre-install debian... and I don't think they want give me an
answer...
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3249[16:31:30] <thongLicker> gnustep don't play nicely with
some full screen-ed applications
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3250[16:31:50] <Errorrouss> jusss: otherwise I assume my
necromancy skill are not strong enought to call the soul of your
machine back to this dimension, sorry
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3251[16:32:09] <hk238> trying to decide which DE to start using
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3252[16:32:11] <jusss> Errorrouss: what do you do when you have
this case?
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3254[16:32:45] <thongLicker> I don't like DEs. It gets in my
way.
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3256[16:32:59] <thongLicker> Every single one of them.
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3258[16:33:02] <Errorrouss> jusss: moment its not powering on or
it hunged?
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3259[16:33:09] <remote> procedure call
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3260[16:33:29] <hk238> yay for the layout working :d
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3262[16:33:39] <Errorrouss> remote: turn on muh TV
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3263[16:34:11] <jusss> Errorrouss: it's powering on, not off
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3264[16:34:15] <Errorrouss> xD
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3266[16:34:29] <Errorrouss> jusss: you can shut it from command
line?
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3267[16:34:41] <jusss> Errorrouss: of course not
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3270[16:35:07] <jusss> it doesn't respon anything
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3271[16:35:07] <Errorrouss> then take battery off or unplu it.
lol
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3273[16:36:04] <jusss> so it doesn't have a log?
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3275[16:36:29] <Errorrouss> jusss: dont know im not such advanced
in clarivoyance
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3276[16:36:55] <Errorrouss> you have to check it to know if it
has
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3277[16:37:03] <Errorrouss> what's that machine again?
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3278[16:37:11] <Errorrouss> some SOC?
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3280[16:37:37] <jusss> Errorrouss: it's a tablet...
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3281[16:37:48] <Errorrouss> jusss: ok, so it is SoC indeed
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3283[16:37:51] <jusss> and what's SOC?
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3284[16:37:53] <Errorrouss> ARM I assume
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3285[16:37:59] <Errorrouss> System on a chip
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3286[16:38:07] <jusss> No, it's x86
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3287[16:38:13] <Errorrouss>
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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3288[16:38:17] <thongLicker> jusss, it's basically crappy
little computer
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3289[16:38:19] <jusss> intel baytrail z3735f
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3290[16:38:31] <Errorrouss> >x86
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3291[16:38:32] <Errorrouss> >tablet
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3293[16:38:54] <Errorrouss> Engineers are not stoping to amaze me
these days
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3295[16:39:15] <jusss> it pre-installed Win10 and Android
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3296[16:39:28] <thongLicker> compared to Arm chips, it's a
power hog.
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3297[16:39:30] <jusss> and I installed jessie on it
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3298[16:39:49] <mu--> I removed lightdm and decided to use gdm
instead. Now when I run vncserver I get xauth: timeout in locking
authority file /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-mugatu-ZiUF63/database
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3299[16:40:08] <Errorrouss> jusss: i guess that yur chip is not
that good supported by kernel
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3300[16:40:09] <jusss> actually it just has some drivers issues,
and others are fine
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3302[16:40:42] <Errorrouss> jusss: so then how would you explain
it's behaviour? xD
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3303[16:41:02] <jusss> Errorrouss: yes, its clocksource is
unstable even I set it to tsc
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3304[16:41:26] <Errorrouss> For me it is or borked on hardware
level or on level of Linux kernel/driver
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3306[16:42:07] <jusss> ;)
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3308[16:42:35] <thongLicker> jusss, I wouldn't run debian on
any tablets. When it comes to power management, it kinda sucks.
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3312[16:43:07] <jusss> thongLicker: yes, it always has acpi
problems
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3315[16:43:32] <jusss> and sound cards, and blueteeth issue
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3317[16:44:09] <thongLicker> and wifi
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3318[16:44:32] <jusss> others are fine, hold a debian tablet and
walk, its kinda cool I think
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3319[16:45:03] <jusss> thongLicker: wifi problem is solved, and
touch screen driver too
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3320[16:45:12] <Errorrouss> jusss: its even cooler when its arm
tablet xD
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3325[16:45:47] <jusss> Errorrouss: yes, that chroot way can do it
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3326[16:46:29] <jusss> Errorrouss: linux distro work on android
kernel
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3327[16:47:35] <jusss> it always been driver problems
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3369[17:02:46] <jusss> I use gpasswd add users into sudo group,
and why they still can't use sudo?
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3370[17:03:08] <jusss> gpasswd -a john sudo
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3371[17:03:25] <jelly> jusss: user needs to log off and back on
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3376[17:06:40] <jusss> jelly: yes, you're right, I forgot
that
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3379[17:07:33] <berkay> anyone knows why jwhois is not available
for jessie?
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3381[17:08:35] <jusss> jelly: how I can know all user's name
and all group's name?
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3382[17:08:52] <themill> berkay: it has licensing problems
(#708956)
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3383[17:08:58] <jelly> berkay: no, but check the bugs open
against it
replaced-url
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3396[17:15:26] <atralheaven1> Hi
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3397[17:16:53] <atralheaven1> I've used both debian and
ubuntu, both are great, but I want to know, which debian repo
(stable, unstable, etc) is equal to ubuntu in stability and being up
to date? thanks
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3398[17:17:18] <mtn> atralheaven1: stability and up to date do
not go together ;)
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3399[17:17:29] <mtn> atralheaven1: you can have one or the other
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3402[17:18:03] <themill> also, if you have to ask, stick with
stable.
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3404[17:18:16] <berkay> themill: seen that, but can't really
understand how is it available for wheezy, and let alone wheezy,
sid; if there are licensing problems?
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3407[17:18:51] <themill> berkay: the licence was ignored for
wheezy; it's not in jessie or stretch
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3409[17:19:36] <atralheaven1> mtn: with ubuntu there is a
balance, I want to know which debian repo is like that
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3410[17:19:44] <mtn> atralheaven1: none
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3412[17:20:15] <mtn> atralheaven1: ubuntu = not stable and not up
to date :P
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3419[17:21:19] <zykotick9> atralheaven1: note, "stable"
might mean something different to debian-people then you're
accustomed to. "stable" in debian-lingo means
non-changing.
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3421[17:21:24] <atralheaven1> mtn: so its like use old software
or have a unstable os?! my only problem with debian stable is just
that softwares are toooo old! I have it on my server but for
desktop... ?
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3423[17:21:51] <atralheaven1> by stable I just mean not breaking
my system! :D
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3424[17:21:51] <mtn> atralheaven1: do you know about backports?
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3425[17:22:04] <atralheaven1> mtn: not actually
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3426[17:22:09] <atralheaven1> no, I mean
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3428[17:22:16] <mtn> atralheaven1: take a look ;)
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3429[17:22:27] <themill> atralheaven1: instead of saying
"too old!1!eleven!" perhaps actually say what is wrong.
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3430[17:22:32] <jelly> atralheaven1: do you have any particular
software in mind?
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3444[17:25:57] <atralheaven1> jelly: everyday softwares like
firefox, python stuff, I don't remember well, you know when I
was using debian stable sometimes I had the problem that I needed a
newer version of something (I don't remember what were they)
but debian repos had older versions.
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3445[17:26:28] <atralheaven1> jelly: I also read that the unstabe
repo is not really unstable, its fine, but im not sure
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3446[17:26:35] <zykotick9> parents, talk to your kids about
<sns>
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3450[17:27:31] <themill> atralheaven1: if you can actually tell
the difference between firefox 45 and 48 then you're doing
well.
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3459[17:30:41] <babilen> atralheaven1: Keep in mind that
"unstable" in Debian simply refers to "changing"
and "stable" to "not changing" in the context of
Debian. Both terms have very little to do with "working"
or "bug free"
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3461[17:30:56] <jelly> atralheaven1: firefox maintainers now keep
a reasonably trusted build of "release" branch of firefox
if your workflow fails with firefox-esr
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3462[17:31:11] <zykotick9> babilen: i'd say there is a
relation there... ymmv...
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3464[17:31:44] <babilen> zykotick9: Sure, nobody would
intentionally release a broken/buggy version as stable nor try to
continuously break unstable
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3465[17:31:56] * jelly gives zykotick9 an unchanging and broken
youtube-dl, or clamav
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3466[17:32:02] <babilen> :)
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3467[17:32:25] <zykotick9> jelly: ya, youtube-dl is an issue
i've run into using stable - so i hear ya.
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3470[17:33:07] <zykotick9> ^ some packages just aren't ideal
for a "stable" release...
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3474[17:33:40] <syt0> can i upgrade to testing on a 2.6.32
kernel?
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3476[17:33:52] <appas> the only way to keep eg. youtube-dl as
up-to-date as necessary is to grab it from the source repo
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3477[17:34:02] <jelly> syt0: not likely, which release are you
upgrading _from_?
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3478[17:34:28] <syt0> the latest
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3479[17:34:35] <jelly> syt0: which is...?
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3480[17:34:40] <syt0> 8.5?
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3482[17:34:47] <babilen> That's not the kernel in 8.5
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3483[17:34:55] <babilen> OpenVZ?
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3484[17:34:58] <atralheaven1> mtn: btw if I understood it right,
back porting seems what debian does, just patching the security
issues solved in newer versions without upgrading to that new
version, yes?
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3485[17:34:59] <syt0> yes
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3486[17:35:18] <jelly> syt0: you can't run the default
debian 8.5 on a 2.6.32 kernel, your provider made some changes to
make it work
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3487[17:35:32] <mtn> atralheaven1: no. backports are newer
versions of packages, backported to the stable repo
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3490[17:35:55] <jelly> syt0: we don't exactly know WHICH
changes they made, so we can't tell you whether those would
break on a jessie->stretch release upgrade
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3491[17:36:16] <atralheaven1> mtn: like using new versions but
still being in stable repo?
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3492[17:36:21] <mtn> atralheaven1: actually go to google and
type: debian backports. read the webpage
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3493[17:36:27] <mtn> atralheaven1: yes
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3494[17:36:29] <jelly> appas: there's actually a usable
build in jessie-backports now.
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3495[17:36:38] <jelly> ,v youtube-dl
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3496[17:36:39] <judd> Package: youtube-dl on amd64 -- jessie:
2014.08.05-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 2016.06.25-2~bpo8+1; stretch:
2016.06.25-2; sid: 2016.06.25-2
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3498[17:36:55] <syt0> jelly: ok, so is there a way to get the
latest packages some how?
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3499[17:37:00] <atralheaven1> mtn: I just googled backport :D
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3500[17:37:09] <atralheaven1> mtn: wont that cause issues?
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3501[17:37:17] <syt0> jelly: with out upgrading the whole thing
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3502[17:37:20] <mtn> atralheaven1: no, that is why it is there.
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3503[17:37:28] <jelly> syt0: dunno, which packages?
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3505[17:37:42] <mtn> atralheaven1: safe way to have newer
software
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3506[17:37:43] <iKarith> syt0: Do you have jessie-backports in
your sources.list?
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3507[17:37:57] <syt0> no i don't
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3508[17:38:08] <iKarith> syt0: Add that. It's relatively
safe.
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3512[17:38:22] <jelly> !jessie-backports
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3513[17:38:22] <dpkg> Selected packages intended for the Debian 9
"Stretch" release but recompiled for use with
"Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the
"jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports
are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A
suitable line for your sources.list is «deb
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3514[17:38:36] <jelly> !bdo
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3515[17:38:36] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly
backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for
the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable
(<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian
developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read
replaced-url
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3518[17:39:14] <iKarith> You won't get very big major
infrastructure changes, but you might see new kernels and new
standalone apps that are kinda big get there.
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3520[17:39:35] <atralheaven1> iKarith: actually I don't have
debian now, but im going to buy an SSD, I thought of installing
debian.
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3521[17:39:36] <iKarith> For example, if you want new XFCE, it
ain't there. But if you want new firefox-esr, it would be.
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3526[17:41:10] <atralheaven1> iKarith: that seems nice!
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3528[17:41:25] <iKarith> atralheaven1: Waaaaaaaay back in 1997 I
decided to install Linux. I was a MAN so I got Slackware from
CheapBytes. Disc was broken, didn't install right. CheapBytes
problem I believe--they also had some Debian issues in those daze.
Then I got RedHat because I was so desperate to try SOMETHING that
would work. It didn't install either because it depended on
XFree86 and that was not automatic on my hardware
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3529[17:41:27] <iKarith> and I'm legally blind.
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3530[17:41:41] * iKarith might be better historically known...
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3533[17:42:07] <knghtbrd> Of fortune file infamy. :P
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3538[17:43:08] <Bubba> Hello! Is it possible with debian to have
a list of the files that are currently being written to the disk by
any program/user?
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3539[17:43:20] <iKarith> aaanyway, I couldn't get Slackware
or RedHat working.. So someone suggested Debian and CheapBytes'
(current) Debian CDs weren't broken. The install was
console-only. But it was bo in the late stage development of hamm.
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3541[17:43:43] <madprops> Are there command line linux proxy
services that can change the IP every certain time?
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3543[17:43:44] <syt0> Thakns jelly iKarith, you were really
helpful
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3544[17:44:11] <iKarith> 48 hours later, thanks to people
you'll never actually encounter anymore--netgod, joeyh, others,
I was not only running hamm, but documenting the process of
successfully doing the libc5 -> glibc2 upgrade, which is not
trivial.
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3550[17:44:56] <iKarith> We didn't have apt in those daze.
It was dpkg -iGEORB and dselect. (Or dpkg -BORGiE)
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3555[17:46:17] <mtn> iKarith: and you walked through snow uphill
to school both ways
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3556[17:46:21] <mtn> iKarith: ah, the good old days
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3558[17:46:31] <iKarith> I've used Ubuntu, Gentoo, Arch, Red
Hat, several editions of Windows, every edition of Mac OS since
10.2.6 (and 9.2.1)... You could do a LOT worse than Debian.
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3559[17:47:00] <iKarith> mtn: with a white cane, and a couple of
concealed knives. (It was an interesting childhood.)
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3561[17:47:19] <hk238> :d
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3563[17:47:35] <sauna> Hey, I am stuck with installing Nvidia
drivers. I blacklisted nouveaue drivers and installed nvidia
drivers. Now blackscreen and black screen on every virtual terminal,
what to do ?
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3564[17:47:58] <sauna> basically I can only run Live versions
from usb on that PC
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3567[17:48:41] <hk238> so I have no sound, I'm not sure
where to start to troubleshoot that, except google which I kind of
tried, anyone got any obvious things to do first type suggestions?
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3568[17:48:42] <iKarith> My fiancee points out that I live in
Oregon. The schools all close if there's a powdered sugar
dusting of snow.
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3573[17:49:03] <mtn> hk238: always start with pavucontrol
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3574[17:49:17] <atralheaven1> iKarith: I met linux first with
ubuntu 8.10 CD, I was 13 I think, I had alot of problems to setup a
dialup internet connection (with max speed 3kb/s), but finally I
solved it! I think after dealing with these problems in linux
(specially on arch!) my mind has learned that there is always a way
to solve problems
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3575[17:50:08] <iKarith> Cool, gotta start somewhere
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3576[17:50:32] <iKarith> (And I've gotta clean up after
tacos for breakfast. The nice advantage of adulting is if you want
tacos, dammit, you have tacos.)
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3578[17:51:21] <Thingamajig> was an Ubuntu user here also. Or at
least was. Started getting sick of some of the stupid bugs. I reckon
it was rather ruined once they moved it to Unity for the desk
environment.
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3580[17:52:30] <Thingamajig> Sauna: Never had to install nvidia
drivers so I'll give it a crack (AMD on my side) not able to
boot into any Kernel shell at all?
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3582[17:52:57] <sauna> exactly
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3583[17:53:54] <sauna> tthink i crashed the system because didnt
run nvidia-xconfig
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3584[17:54:41] <Thingamajig> Hmmmm out of curiosity with your
live CD (or even without) were you able to load the recovery option
in GRUB?
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3586[17:55:06] <Thingamajig> Also what card?
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3587[17:55:34] <sauna> nvidia geforce 650M. I ran gparted live,
didn't do anything in recovery part I think.
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3588[17:56:19] <Thingamajig> Try recovery since that allows you
to access *SOME* kind of shell to look at it. I think you can even
mount and unmount from the live cd also :p
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3589[17:56:31] <sauna> I also just want to remove these drivers,
I now did research and I think I willl stick to nouveau drivers,
this pc only for watching movies
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3590[17:57:01] <hk238> hmm well pavucontrol was already installed
ahh im not sure :d
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3591[17:57:02] <Thingamajig> Honestly graphics drivers and linux
can be painful :/ I stuck with the free drivers with AMD and they
are considered far worse.
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3593[17:57:12] <atralheaven1> lets say I've installed
firefox with "apt-get -t jessie-backports install
firefox", and there is a new version of firefox now, when I do
apt-get update and then upgrade, will that firefox get updated?
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3594[17:57:12] <sauna> atleast debian docs say that nouveau
drivers are fine, no need to worry about proprietary
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3596[17:57:59] <Thingamajig> <atralheaven1> Should do I
assume you have backports enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list?
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3597[17:58:21] <atralheaven1> Thingamajig: yes
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3598[17:58:47] <Thingamajig> <sauna> Shouldn't need
proprietary drivers unless you want to play games honestly or if the
distro doesn't support in the open drivers yet.
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3600[17:59:04] <sauna> Thanks, I will just reinstall OS, will be
faster. Have to go now.
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3601[17:59:14] <atralheaven1> Thingamajig: can I use it without
enabling it?!
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3602[17:59:27] <Thingamajig> <atralheaven1> Checking for
you sec :)
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3603[17:59:46] <atralheaven1> Thingamajig: thanks!
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3606[18:00:39] <hk238> any other ideas besides pavucontrol for
enabling sound? :d
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3608[18:01:19] <Thingamajig> <atralheaven1> Ok so I found
this in my searches
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3609[18:01:20] <mtn> hk238: alsamixer and F6 to choose sound card
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3610[18:01:25] <kai_w> I can't get glxinfo to work over ssh
with the nvidia-driver - just get a BadValue error. I think it used
to work, but not 100% sure. Can anybody else try?
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3611[18:01:26] <Thingamajig>
replaced-url
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3612[18:01:49] <Thingamajig> Also I tend to do the dangerous way
of updating things
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3614[18:01:58] <Thingamajig> apt-get update
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3615[18:02:04] <Thingamajig> apt-get dist-upgrade
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3616[18:02:09] <babilen> hk238: Did you start it (and alsamixer)
and unmuted channels/raised volume/selected output sink?
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3617[18:02:13] <Thingamajig> as far as I can tell it *should*
update to the latest :)
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3620[18:02:47] <Thingamajig> <atralheaven> what version do
you get when running the relevant commands?
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3623[18:03:22] <Knaldgas> Hmm, has Debian changed automount
concept in Jessie? Had some udev rules before, but they stopped
working some weeks ago...
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3625[18:03:50] <hk238> hmm alsamixergui from synaptic?
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3626[18:04:18] <hk238> oh nevermind it works in terminal
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3627[18:04:30] <hk238> I mean.. let's see
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3628[18:04:48] <babilen> hk238: Run "speaker-test
-twav" to test (from alsa-utils)
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3633[18:06:36] <hk238> can't hear anything, what I'm
supposed to think of the speaker-test?
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3640[18:08:08] <iKarith> Thingamajig: I never really used Gnome 3
for the DE. I always use xubuntu or lubuntu. Ubuntu's LXDE
setup is very nice. Their XFCE setup need{s,ed} work. :/
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3643[18:09:43] <iKarith> But what has Ubuntu really got over
Debian truly? A little more end-user integration most of the time?
Don't really need that. Willingness to ship non-free stuff in
the installer? I rarely need that, and I know how to work around it
when I do.
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3644[18:09:43] <Thingamajig> <iKarith> I love stock gnome
3. Unity well it's polished now but frankly not as snappy as
stock gnome.
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3645[18:09:53] <idmistir>
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3646[18:10:03] <idmistir> any ideas?
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3647[18:10:04] <iKarith> I've never used Linux on a system
snappy enough to enjoy Gnome