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• 8[00:01:51] <Donatas> yes, i do get it, its a .deb gang, right?
• 9[00:02:03] <rant> no not at all
• 10[00:02:53] <rant> every free software project and linux distro all helps out the collective, but when it comes to volunteer support, its rude, and a disservice to all involved to not realize the distinction
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• 14[00:04:15] <SerajewelKS> it becomes problematic when a distro like debian gets forked so many times. then everyone using those forked distros comes here asking for support, expecting us (debian users and volunteers) to know the specifics of how their distro changed debian.
• 15[00:04:37] <SerajewelKS> we can't feasibly support anything except debian proper
• 16[00:04:42] <bites> they only said hi...
• 17[00:05:09] <SerajewelKS> yeah. i'm not trying to be compative, only explain what rant is saying.
• 18[00:05:13] <SerajewelKS> combative*
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• 22[00:05:47] <SerajewelKS> if someone greets "fellow ubuntu users" there's a good chance the next line is going to be a question about ubuntu :)
• 23[00:06:26] <bites> so wait for the question before putting the user down
• 24[00:06:54] <SerajewelKS> not putting anyone down
• 25[00:07:27] <bites> yeah yeah, only explaining.
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• 27[00:09:18] <rant> well what aggrivates me is how many of them change our packages so drastically all except changing the f'n defaults in the irc client :P
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• 36[00:13:49] <SerajewelKS> is "blockdev --getpbsz" guaranteed to return the smallest individually-accessible unit of space on a disk? e.g. on one of my disks it returns 4096. does that imply that if the disk has an unreadable sector, it will span exactly 4096 bytes, no less? (but possibly more if adjacent sectors are bad)
• 37[00:14:32] <SerajewelKS> i ask because smartctl indicates that physical sectors are indeed 4096 bytes, but logical sectors are 512
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• 39[00:15:07] <SerajewelKS> if logical sectors are 512 bytes, could the disk remap bad sectors in 512-byte units?
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• 44[00:20:12] <Donatas> Well debian did benefit a lot from ubuntu team, lots of stuff came back to debian repos. What will happen when snapd will become main source of software
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• 50[00:21:43] <bites> that's a bold claim.
• 51[00:21:43] <annadane> until upstream authors directly package for snap i'm not sure i can trust it
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• 53[00:22:13] <bites> there are upstream authors that package snaps.
• 54[00:22:14] <annadane> or flatpak or whatever
• 55[00:22:24] <annadane> yeah, but i mean broadly
• 56[00:22:28] <annadane> i know some obviously do
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• 67[00:30:00] <RoyK> what's wrong with apt?
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• 96[00:44:08] <__m4ch1n3__> how can i chack if microde is loaded?
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• 98[00:44:13] <__m4ch1n3__> *check?
• 99[00:44:19] <__m4ch1n3__> -?
• 100[00:44:29] <annadane> as was said earlier, check /proc/cpuinfo
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• 217[02:02:27] <ebrasca> Can I install debian on btrfs subvolume?
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• 225[02:08:37] <ebrasca> I have alredy 1 btrfs done with other systems in separete subvolumes.
• 226[02:09:01] <ebrasca> Can I install debian in 1 subvolume? ( No formating )
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• 237[02:22:12] <yakiza> Hello guys the stranges thing has happened i installed php 7.2 that has pdo i can also see when i do php -m that is there but when i run script i get the following error Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Class 'PDO' not found in
• 238[02:22:15] <yakiza> any ideas?
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• 240[02:23:03] <annadane> stretch doesn't even have php 7.2
• 241[02:23:23] <annadane> how did you install it and are you using debian stable
• 242[02:23:55] <yakiza> annadane: i followed this replaced-url
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• 244[02:24:20] <annadane> "enable php ppa"
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• 246[02:24:27] <annadane> !frankendebian
• 247[02:24:27] <dpkg> When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall>
• 248[02:24:46] <annadane> also that link says debian 8 which debian stable is not
• 249[02:24:56] <yakiza> dpkg: alright
• 250[02:24:56] <dpkg> it has been said that alright is never all right. All right is two words.
• 251[02:25:04] <annadane> dpkg is just a bot.
• 252[02:25:04] <dpkg> annadane: no idea
• 253[02:25:07] <annadane> shut up.
• 254[02:25:14] <annadane> (not you)
• 255[02:25:15] <yakiza> annadane: ohh sorry
• 256[02:25:29] <yakiza> annadane if you have a link to share to install this properly that would be greate
• 257[02:25:37] <annadane> the first question is why do you need it
• 258[02:25:46] <annadane> you may be able to just use the php 7.0 that debian stable offers
• 259[02:25:54] <yakiza> oh yeah sure
• 260[02:26:06] <yakiza> i dont mind what version if its more than 5.0
• 261[02:26:40] <annadane> right. so delete that ppa from your sources list and the php it installed... if you can do that safely at this point, i guess you ought to be able to
• 262[02:26:58] <annadane> i don't installed from ppa and not php anyway so i don't know how easy it is to remove
• 263[02:27:05] <yakiza> sec how do i open the sources at what folder are they
• 264[02:27:14] <annadane> /etc/apt/sources.list
• 265[02:27:35] <annadane> oh. never mind, the link has it
• 266[02:27:45] <annadane> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/php.list
• 267[02:28:16] <annadane> it was installed via apt, so just apt remove the packages you apt installed from that website
• 268[02:28:48] <yakiza> annadane: that is what i have i do not have that replaced-url
• 269[02:29:00] <annadane> anyway, in future use what's in the stable repository (or backports) and do not blindly follow instructions from the internet
• 270[02:29:13] <yakiza> alright
• 271[02:29:26] <annadane> yeah as i said, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/php.list
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• 273[02:29:34] <annadane> i'm stupid and didn't check the website
• 274[02:29:58] <yakiza> done
• 275[02:30:45] <themill> checking what is installed with "aptitude search ~nphp~i" might help
• 276[02:30:55] <yakiza> now apt-get install php7.0-common?
• 277[02:31:31] <yakiza> annadane: ?
• 278[02:31:31] <annadane> just php7.0 but i'd probably follow themill's advice first
• 279[02:31:36] <yakiza> ok
• 280[02:31:42] <yakiza> the mill?
• 281[02:32:06] <yakiza> i deleted everything
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• 283[02:32:27] <annadane> well actually you may be able to install php7.0-common, see that it's what you want with apt show php7.0-common
• 284[02:32:30] <themill> fsvo everything
• 285[02:32:47] <annadane> (it has a package description)
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• 287[02:33:47] <yakiza> annadane: for some reason now i have nothing in my /etc/php directory
• 288[02:34:02] <yakiza> php7.0 is already the newest version (7.0.30-0+deb9u1).
• 289[02:34:19] <annadane> that's not unusual
• 290[02:34:26] <yakiza> what do you mean?
• 291[02:34:29] <annadane> /etc is just configuration files
• 292[02:34:34] <yakiza> alright
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• 294[02:35:14] <themill> yakiza: it would be helpful if you showed what you actually did rather than summarise it. Particularly comments like "I deleted everything"
• 295[02:35:32] <yakiza> i did apt-get install php7.0 and phpyadmin
• 296[02:35:41] <annadane> anyway, never ever add PPAs to debian
• 297[02:35:46] <annadane> !don't break debian
• 298[02:35:46] <dpkg> somebody said dont break debian was replaced-url
• 299[02:35:55] <yakiza> hahah alright ididnt know to be honest
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• 302[02:37:50] <yakiza> annadane: one last question
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• 304[02:38:26] <yakiza> i did install phpmyadmin and i get the following error sudo The mbstring extension is missing. Please check your PHP configuration. i checked online and i see that i was missing a library and i installed it but still
• 305[02:38:55] <annadane> what library did you install, remember what i said about blindly trusting the internet
• 306[02:39:42] <ksk> also, why is there a "sudo" in your text? you should not run php as root :)
• 307[02:39:45] <yakiza> annadane: replaced-url
• 308[02:39:49] <yakiza> yeah
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• 310[02:40:05] <yakiza> sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin php-mbstring php-gettext
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• 312[02:40:12] <yakiza> this is what i did but nothing
• 313[02:40:14] <annadane> also 285 not upgraded packages...
• 314[02:40:26] <annadane> slow down, tiger
• 315[02:40:36] <annadane> there's a solution for everything if you don't rush it
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• 318[02:41:47] <annadane> two things first of all. paste.debian.net aptitude search ~nphp~i and tell us what library you installed that you just mentioned
• 319[02:41:53] <yakiza> annadane: here replaced-url
• 320[02:42:11] <yakiza> annadane: the thing is that ive been on this computer for ages and i cant figure this pdo thing
• 321[02:42:13] <ebrasca> annadane: I don't think there is solution for "everything".
• 322[02:42:17] <yakiza> i reinstalled php 1000 times
• 323[02:42:19] <annadane> most things, then
• 324[02:42:37] <annadane> if you reinstalled it 1000 times, definitely slow down, because if you keep going you'll make the problem(s) worse
• 325[02:42:44] <yakiza> alright
• 326[02:43:00] <yakiza> so i try upgrading and i get that message as you can see in my latest picture share
• 327[02:43:26] <annadane> also that mirror isn't on the mirror list
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• 329[02:43:40] <annadane> though i know debian does have tor mirrors so maybe it's contained in another link
• 330[02:44:01] <yakiza> so is it something i should be worried about?
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• 332[02:44:29] <annadane> do you need tor, you may be able to just use deb.debian.org (except for the "security" lines in /etc/apt/sources.list) instead
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• 334[02:44:37] <yakiza> no i do not need it
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• 336[02:44:46] <annadane> that said it may be a perfectly legitimate mirror, i'm just unfamiliar with tor mirrors
• 337[02:44:52] <yakiza> alll i truly need is php with pdo to be working haha
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• 340[02:46:00] <annadane> ok, here
• 341[02:46:25] <annadane> there's like 4 things we need to do but let's start with, post your /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.debian.net or the image site thing you've been using
• 342[02:46:37] <annadane> "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
• 343[02:47:03] <annadane> also brb
• 344[02:47:11] <yakiza> annadane: replaced-url
• 345[02:47:12] <yakiza> alright
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• 347[02:47:21] <annadane> !pastebin.com
• 348[02:47:21] <dpkg> pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like replaced-url
• 349[02:47:25] <annadane> but anyway that's fine for now
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• 353[02:51:21] <annadane> yakiza, replaced-url
• 354[02:52:13] <annadane> then, put on paste.debian.net "aptitude search ~nphp~i" and then tell us what library you said you installed
• 355[02:53:06] <annadane> or preferably, link to the page that told you to install that library so we can see whatever dumb tutorial the internet came up with that could hurt a system
• 356[02:53:59] <yakiza> aptitude not found
• 357[02:54:16] <yakiza> hahahah
• 358[02:54:18] <yakiza> love ya
• 359[02:54:38] <annadane> ok then install it
• 360[02:54:44] <annadane> apt install aptitude
• 361[02:54:55] <yakiza> just making sure
• 362[02:55:43] <yakiza> annadane: replaced-url
• 363[02:56:22] <annadane> and the reason we're doing all this is debian *has* a packaging system and filesystem hierarchy and boneheaded or outdated tutorials can ignore all this in the name of convenience and lead users astray
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• 366[02:57:04] <annadane> ok well the problem with that is you're doing this after you'd installed php 7.0 so now we're seeing the combined list of 7.0 and 7.2
• 367[02:57:06] <yakiza> ahaha
• 368[02:57:31] <yakiza> my bad i am trying to learn to be honest any advice welcome
• 369[02:58:05] <annadane> ok, let's do it this way
• 370[02:58:23] <annadane> put on paste.debian.net the full output from you apt installing php7.0 most recently
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• 372[02:58:46] <annadane> then i can see what else got installed and i can tell the difference from what got installed via PPA and what actually is from php 7.0
• 373[02:58:56] <yakiza> what do you mean you want me to do apt-get install php7.0 and pastebin the output
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• 377[02:59:13] <annadane> then again it may just be safer to remove php7.0, apt autoremove, but it depends on how populated your apt autoremove list is
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• 379[02:59:32] <yakiza> annadane: ill do remove first?
• 380[02:59:35] <yakiza> i think so
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• 382[02:59:50] <yakiza> aggre?
• 383[02:59:52] <annadane> let's do it that way. do this. apt remove php7.0, then type apt autoremove but *don't* press y yet. paste the output you get from that
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• 385[03:00:29] <yakiza> yes tell me ow
• 386[03:00:35] <annadane> i just did
• 387[03:00:55] <yakiza> replaced-url
• 388[03:00:57] <annadane> php7.0 or php7.0-common, whichever you installed
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• 390[03:01:05] <yakiza> i think both...
• 391[03:01:11] <yakiza> but i just removed 7.0
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• 394[03:01:19] <annadane> ok, one second
• 395[03:02:44] <annadane> ok, paste the output of aptitude why dbconfig-common dbconfig-mysql libapache2-mod-php7.0 php-bz2 php-mysql php-phpseclib php-tcpdf php-zip php7.0-bz2 php7.0-mysql php7.0-zip
• 396[03:02:50] <annadane> you should be fine but i just want to check
• 397[03:03:17] <annadane> don't really need to do it for the packages that say 7.0 but whatever
• 398[03:03:34] <yakiza> wait i am confused
• 399[03:03:42] <yakiza> i should run aptidute why ...
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• 404[03:05:13] <annadane> so we know where the packages came from, it's the notion of dependencies, if you install package a that depends on packages x y z, they'll all get dragged in
• 405[03:05:37] <annadane> so i want to seperate and remove any packages that came from PPA
• 406[03:05:51] <yakiza> understood
• 407[03:06:02] <yakiza> and how do i do that manually one by one apt remove ...
• 408[03:06:27] <annadane> well you can just apt autoremove but if they're from php7.0 and you're installing it anyway you don't need to
• 409[03:06:37] <yakiza> alright
• 410[03:06:46] <yakiza> so should i do autoremove for 7.2
• 411[03:06:49] <annadane> and the reason mainly i didn't want you to blindly apt autoremove is in case you had a gigantic list from something else and removed half your desktop or something
• 412[03:06:58] <annadane> no, just paste the aptitude why thing
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• 414[03:07:28] <yakiza> done
• 415[03:07:34] <yakiza> ni just got a new shell
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• 417[03:08:17] <annadane> so can i have the link?
• 418[03:08:36] <yakiza> i got no link
• 419[03:08:48] <annadane> well can you put it on paste.debian.net?
• 420[03:08:57] <yakiza> i mean there is no output
• 421[03:09:47] <annadane> one sec
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• 423[03:09:57] <yakiza> replaced-url
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• 425[03:11:43] <annadane> ok, so i think you're fine now, you've removed all the PPA stuff you installed and now you can apt install php7.0-common or php7.0, your choice
• 426[03:12:11] <annadane> that said, you have a bunch of not upgraded packages, so now that i've fixed your sources list you should be able to upgrade the rest of your system
• 427[03:12:17] <yakiza> i get an error saying i have to apt autoremove
• 428[03:12:19] <yakiza> should i
• 429[03:12:31] <annadane> you don't "have to", it's an advisory, but paste it anyway
• 430[03:12:48] <Kyros> are you hosting a site or just doing dev work?
• 431[03:12:51] <RoyK> don't use pastebin.com - the debian pastebin doesn't have all those ads
• 432[03:13:12] <Kyros> cause you can use php-cli with php -S for dev work without having to deal with the http server and all that nonsense
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• 434[03:13:40] <yakiza> annadane: what?? replaced-url
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• 436[03:13:50] <annadane> yakiza, also, can you paste dpkg -l libc6
• 437[03:14:33] <annadane> that's php7.0-common, which is different to php7.0
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• 439[03:15:11] <annadane> it depends which one you want. answer Kyros's questions and/or apt show php7.0 php7.0-common and read the package descriptions to see which one you want
• 440[03:15:30] <yakiza> annadane: i just did php7.0-common now i am upgrading the packages
• 441[03:15:40] <yakiza> Kyros: dev work
• 442[03:15:47] <annadane> ok but first dpkg -l libc6
• 443[03:15:58] <yakiza> i did that
• 444[03:16:03] <yakiza> what is libc6
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• 446[03:16:08] <yakiza> Kyros: what do you mean please expain
• 447[03:16:27] <annadane> and what does it say, by "paste it" i meant put it on a paste site (preferably paste.debian.net) so i could see the output
• 448[03:16:51] <yakiza> oh i have both architectures
• 449[03:17:01] <annadane> fine but please just give the output
• 450[03:17:14] <yakiza> just a sec its doing stuff
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• 452[03:18:03] <annadane> *if* the upgrade goes smoothly then you'll probably have to reboot because with that many packages updated there's surely kernel security fixes
• 453[03:18:19] <Kyros> yakiza: the php -S command launches its own webserver
• 454[03:18:22] <yakiza> alright haah
• 455[03:18:32] <yakiza> shiet man really ill check that out right after this
• 456[03:18:36] <annadane> (it's a myth linux never needs reboots, you do need to at minimum for microcode and kernel upgrades)
• 457[03:18:47] <Kyros> yeah its so much faster than setting up the full stack
• 458[03:18:57] <yakiza> its done
• 459[03:19:02] <annadane> you can tell if the kernel got updated because it'll say linux-image-whatever in the list of packages
• 460[03:19:06] <yakiza> should i restart can we first check thte pdo thing?
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• 462[03:19:14] <annadane> may as well i guess
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• 464[03:19:47] <yakiza> replaced-url
• 465[03:20:05] <annadane> ,v libc6
• 466[03:20:06] <judd> Package: libc6 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u10; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u12; jessie: 2.19-18+deb8u10; jessie-security: 2.19-18+deb8u10; stretch-security: 2.24-11+deb9u1; stretch: 2.24-11+deb9u3; buster: 2.27-6; sid: 2.27-6
• 467[03:20:12] <annadane> yay. you're fine.
• 468[03:20:22] <yakiza> i need also phpmyadmin should i?
• 469[03:20:32] <annadane> so after a reboot you should be good to go (except Kyros's queries who knows more about php than i do)
• 470[03:20:42] <RoyK> no need for phpmyadmin - the commandline works well ;)
• 471[03:20:52] <annadane> also please update your system more often
• 472[03:21:09] <yakiza> will do :P hehe
• 473[03:21:13] <yakiza> royk how?
• 474[03:21:28] <annadane> just for fun, before you reboot, can you paste uname -a?
• 475[03:21:36] <annadane> without the question mark
• 476[03:21:49] <yakiza> you wnna see my kernel?
• 477[03:21:56] <yakiza> i am not showing you my underwear yet
• 478[03:22:03] <annadane> yeah i'm just curious how far behind you are
• 479[03:22:08] <yakiza> i am not that far
• 480[03:22:09] <yakiza> Linux yKz 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.88-1+deb9u1 (2018-05-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux
• 481[03:22:20] <annadane> yeah so the newest is 4.9.0-8
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• 483[03:22:24] <annadane> definitely reboot
• 484[03:22:30] <yakiza> alright brb
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• 486[03:24:14] <yakiza_> annadane: i am back
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• 488[03:24:38] <annadane> good. so all your technical problems should be solved, now you can chat with Kyros and/or RoyK
• 489[03:25:06] <yakiza_> friend request annadane
• 490[03:25:20] <annadane> on debian stable, i'd say apt update && apt upgrade about maybe once a week; when buster releases (circa july 2019) you'll read the release notes like the rest of us and update to the new stable
• 491[03:25:36] <annadane> also subscribe to debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org
• 492[03:25:40] <yakiza_> since few months ago i was using primarly slackware
• 493[03:25:47] <yakiza_> thats why this machine is like this :P
• 494[03:26:12] <annadane> replaced-url
• 495[03:26:49] <yakiza_> Greaat annadane thanks brahhh
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• 497[03:27:10] <yakiza_> last thing what about taht phpmyadmin error
• 498[03:27:24] <yakiza_> Kyros: anyhelp
• 499[03:27:41] <Kyros> i dont ever use it
• 500[03:27:54] <yakiza_> what do you use ?
• 501[03:28:06] <Kyros> i thought you were referring to phpmyadmin
• 502[03:28:13] <yakiza_> i am
• 503[03:28:48] <Kyros> oh i read that wrong lol im tired
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• 505[03:28:59] <yakiza_> hahah Kyros
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• 507[03:29:13] <Kyros> i mostly just use postgresql and the command line tools when i need
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• 509[03:29:56] <annadane> anyway, i can't stress enough. do NOT use .deb from the internet. do NOT follow internet tutorials except maybe what's on the debian wiki. do NOT install from testing or sid without asking us first
• 510[03:30:16] <Kyros> ^
• 511[03:30:22] <annadane> DO read
• 512[03:30:25] <annadane> !dontbreakdebian
• 513[03:30:25] <dpkg> dont break debian is probably replaced-url
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• 515[03:31:17] <yakiza_> annadane: hahah will do thanks
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• 521[03:32:58] <annadane> and to answer your question the reason i ask for dpkg -l libc6 is that - and i don't know if this ever happens with PPA but i wanted to be safe - sometimes software will drag in newer versions of libc6, which many programs depend on, so you'll have a libc6 that's not built for debian stable and totally trash your system
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• 523[03:33:27] <annadane> slackware of course doesn't have this problem because it has manual dependency resolution as you know
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• 525[03:33:36] <yakiza_> annadane: i see, i am getting this error for phpmyadmin The mbstring extension is missing. Please check your PHP configuration. and i found this solution is this something i should do ?
• 526[03:33:37] <yakiza_> replaced-url
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• 529[03:34:42] <annadane> yeah as the solution says you can apt install php7.0-mbstring libapache2-mod-php7.0
• 530[03:34:51] <annadane> that's fine, because those packages are already in the debian repo
• 531[03:35:05] <yakiza_> just did and still same error ..
• 532[03:35:37] <annadane> maybe the service has to be restarted, i don't know enough about php to answer
• 533[03:35:50] <annadane> otherwise try the other solutions that people have tried there if those packages are in the repository
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• 535[03:36:15] <annadane> but this is guesswork so please ask someone who actually knows *waits for others to chip in*
• 536[03:36:47] <yakiza_> i see well i did restart the service to be honest and i did install the packets the peole on stackoverflow suggested
• 537[03:37:34] <ebrasca> Can I install debian in 1 btrfs subvolume? ( I have other GNU systems in other btrfs subvolumes )
• 538[03:38:36] <annadane> yakiza_, well, i'll check the debian bug tracker and see if i can find anything
• 539[03:38:48] <annadane> (but i don't know what package to look under)
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• 541[03:39:18] <yakiza_> annadane: i think it was something i did cause when i last removed php i removed i comletely and i got prompted to something for phpmyadmin not sure
• 542[03:39:18] <annadane> oh, phpmyadmin. nvm
• 543[03:39:23] <yakiza_> hahah
• 544[03:39:24] <yakiza_> hahahah
• 545[03:39:25] <yakiza_> ahah
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• 547[03:39:36] <yakiza_> why so much hate?
• 548[03:39:37] <annadane> please don't, you're scrolling ebrasca's question off screen
• 549[03:39:44] <annadane> hate?
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• 551[03:41:13] <yakiza_> just kidding
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• 553[03:42:17] <annadane> yakiza_, try apt install phpmyadmin php-mbstring php-gettext && systemctl restart apache2
• 554[03:42:22] <annadane> i don't know if that will solve it or not
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• 556[03:42:44] <yakiza_> nothing
• 557[03:42:47] <yakiza_> its okay nevermind
• 558[03:42:52] <annadane> well, i don't know. i'm not an expert
• 559[03:43:15] <annadane> just searching through stackoverflow answers
• 560[03:43:17] <Kyros> im not sure phpmyadmin comes fully configured
• 561[03:43:21] <Kyros> because of security issues
• 562[03:43:22] <__m4ch1n3__> suddenly there is an error when i boot debian testing "mdraid faild to load shard lib ...", i have only 1 physical driver and never configured any raid
• 563[03:43:30] <annadane> !debian-next
• 564[03:43:30] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
• 565[03:43:34] <Kyros> you probably want to look at the configuration for it
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• 567[03:44:26] <__m4ch1n3__> #debian-next is invite only
• 568[03:44:37] <annadane> read the factoid
• 569[03:44:38] <ebrasca> !parabola
• 570[03:44:41] <annadane> irc.oftc.net, not freenode
• 571[03:44:52] <ebrasca> #parabola
• 572[03:44:53] <__m4ch1n3__> ah lol
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• 574[03:45:03] <annadane> dselect: parabola
• 575[03:45:03] <dselect> annadane: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
• 576[03:45:17] <annadane> dselect: search dpkg
• 577[03:45:17] <dselect> You can search my database on the web at replaced-url
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• 581[03:46:15] <annadane> ebrasca, ok yeah, it's #parabola on freenoe
• 582[03:46:18] <annadane> freenode*
• 583[03:46:41] <yakiza_> annadane: i am trying to totally delete mysql and phpmyadmin but with apt remove it doesnt do the trick
• 584[03:47:10] <ebrasca> annadane: Can you add some Parabola to bot?
• 585[03:47:15] <annadane> yakiza_, for future reference the "the following packages can be removed" is just an advisory, it happens when a package they depended on gets removed, it's up to the user to investigate what they need and not blindly type apt autoremove
• 586[03:47:22] <annadane> ebrasca, yeah, one second, let me just explain this first
• 587[03:48:03] <annadane> for example GNOME desktop is bad for this, sometimes if you apt remove gnome-games and apt autoremove and blindly press Y it will remove the desktop because it will also remove GNOME
• 588[03:48:15] <annadane> it's an advisory, treat it as such and view package descriptions with apt show
• 589[03:48:47] <annadane> dpkg, parabola is <reply> Support for Parabola Linux can be found on #parabola on freenode. replaced-url
• 590[03:48:48] <dpkg> annadane: okay
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• 592[03:50:04] <annadane> ebrasca, as for your btrfs question, you can ask it again or if no one knows the answer try debian-user@lists.debian.org
• 593[03:50:17] <annadane> i would answer but i don't know btrfs, i'm sorry you haven't been answered yet
• 594[03:51:55] <annadane> yakiza_, and one way to remove a package from that list is to apt-mark hold it
• 595[03:52:19] <annadane> why is apt remove not working? (returning to your question from above)
• 596[03:52:28] <annadane> you should provide output and not just tell us what it's doing
• 597[03:53:30] <annadane> oh hey. i like parabola's installation guide better than arch's :P
• 598[03:53:36] <RoyK> IIRC btrfs was announced to stabilise around seven years ago, but still hasn't
• 599[03:54:40] <RoyK> they use the term "stable" for it, though, like some other projects, becasue it's fixed, but that doesn't say much about its stability
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• 601[03:57:46] <ebrasca> annadane: Can I intall debian with shell comands? ( No GUI install from Debian installer )
• 602[03:58:07] <annadane> yes
• 603[03:58:17] <yakiza_> annadane: i dont know an i am starting to get sooo angry honestly i just want to remove the whole stack to install it again properly and when i try to do nothing
• 604[03:58:22] * RoyK doesn't use gui on his debian servers
• 605[03:58:27] <yakiza_> i dont get propted the same options when i first did install it
• 606[03:58:43] <annadane> ok, well, paste what errors you get
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• 608[03:58:56] <annadane> and please use paste.debian.net, some people just really don't want to use pastebin.com
• 609[03:59:10] <yakiza_> annadane: i get no errors
• 610[03:59:16] <yakiza_> the thing is that i do remove
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• 613[03:59:34] <yakiza_> and when i do install the install is soo short it doesnt ask me for the new username or password
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• 615[03:59:38] <yakiza_> its just magically done
• 616[03:59:40] <annadane> also why remove it, it's already installed
• 617[04:00:00] <annadane> yakiza_, yeah, what you describe? paste it please
• 618[04:00:06] <yakiza_> well php my admin doesnt work and i am trying to develop something there the past 9 hours and i am miserably failing
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• 620[04:00:29] <annadane> doesn't work as in the message you posted earlier or...?
• 621[04:00:54] <annadane> yeah, ok
• 622[04:01:01] <annadane> so we're trying to solve this message: phpmyadmin The mbstring extension is missing. Please check your PHP configuration
• 623[04:01:10] <annadane> and someone replied, let me see
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• 625[04:01:46] <annadane> did you see what Kyros said? they said they're not sure whether it comes fully configured due to security issues, check the configuration
• 626[04:01:53] <yakiza_> replaced-url
• 627[04:02:00] <annadane> i don't know where that is, either in /etc or a dot file in your home directory
• 628[04:02:37] <annadane> any ideas, Kyros, RoyK?
• 629[04:02:38] <yakiza_> annadane: sorry i am just really frustrated about this i was getting the error for php now my phpmyadmin doesnt work i feel like i am drowing on a tablespoon of water
• 630[04:03:15] <RoyK> annadane: why use phpmyadmin? ;)
• 631[04:03:26] <annadane> i'm not the one with the problem
• 632[04:03:34] <yakiza_> royk then use what?
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• 635[04:03:44] <RoyK> yakiza_: run "mysql"
• 636[04:03:58] <RoyK> pops up with a commandline interface you can use
• 637[04:04:06] <yakiza_> yes but the problem is that with phpmyadmin i know user is root password is blank
• 638[04:04:08] <RoyK> no need for a fancy gui
• 639[04:04:10] <yakiza_> with mysql i have no idea
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• 641[04:04:27] <yakiza_> i try mysql -u yakiza and a password it doesnt work
• 642[04:04:42] <yakiza_> ive tried reinstalling mysql to get a new password and username nothing
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• 644[04:04:58] <RoyK> then stop mysql and start it manually with --skip-grant-tables --skip-networking &
• 645[04:05:14] <RoyK> and then set a new root password
• 646[04:05:27] <RoyK> it's on google
• 647[04:05:53] <RoyK> replaced-url
• 648[04:05:58] <RoyK> something like that
• 649[04:06:02] <RoyK> same for mariadb
• 650[04:06:10] <RoyK> which you probably have
• 651[04:06:27] <annadane> s/probably/definitely
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• 653[04:07:20] <RoyK> annadane: a slash missing there ;)
• 654[04:07:24] <yakiza_> RoyK: why is this happening replaced-url
• 655[04:07:42] <RoyK> yakiza_: add a ;
• 656[04:08:18] <yakiza_> i think because ive been working more than 24hours trying to do the simplest thing i am just out of my head
• 657[04:08:53] <yakiza_> anyway i think i am gonna crush cant deal with this anymore
• 658[04:09:04] <yakiza_> i have to go get drunk i havent been drunk in quite few months
• 659[04:09:08] <yakiza_> i think that is the problem
• 660[04:09:30] <RoyK> getting drunk always solve problems
• 661[04:09:32] <annadane> just don't drink and use the root account
• 662[04:09:33] <RoyK> (not)
• 663[04:09:49] <yakiza_> rm -rf /
• 664[04:10:07] <RoyK> yakiza_: don't paste things like that - people might run it
• 665[04:10:17] <yakiza_> hahah that would be funny
• 666[04:10:29] <RoyK> not for the newbie that ran it
• 667[04:10:43] <yakiza_> now i get what you mean dont run shit you see online
• 668[04:10:45] <annadane> instructions unclear. became president of france
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• 671[04:11:15] <RoyK> yakiza_: not all newbies are akin to that
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• 673[04:11:49] <RoyK> yakiza_: so please be kind
• 674[04:12:26] <yakiza_> Will do <3
• 675[04:12:35] <yakiza_> touch touch touch
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• 679[04:15:02] <__m4ch1n3__> any idea how to fix this replaced-url
• 680[04:15:29] <annadane> NOT pastebin.com! rejoice!
• 681[04:16:07] <annadane> __m4ch1n3__, like i said, the channel for testing is #debian-next on the other network
• 682[04:17:14] <__m4ch1n3__> yeah joined there, waiting for answer
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• 685[04:18:29] <__m4ch1n3__> its not pastebin, its termbin :3, you can use it from terminal "echo foo bar | nc termbin.com 9999"
• 686[04:18:55] <annadane> yeah, i know. but many people use pastebin to paste, which...
• 687[04:18:57] <annadane> !pastebin.com
• 688[04:18:58] <dpkg> pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like replaced-url
• 689[04:20:55] <annadane> anyway do stick to #debian-next on oftc, sometimes we can answer testing/sid questions here if they're general enough but there's a reason it's split into another channel
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• 691[04:21:06] <annadane> if you don't get a reply within a suitable amount of time ask again
• 692[04:21:33] <annadane> suitable being like half an hour
• 693[04:22:06] <__m4ch1n3__> ok
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• 695[04:23:46] <RoyK> pastebin.com is a crapbin
• 696[04:24:04] <__m4ch1n3__> true
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• 699[04:24:55] <yakiza> Kyros: here?
• 700[04:25:03] <yakiza> Kyros: was it php -?
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• 704[04:26:19] <RoyK> php --help, perhaps
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• 708[04:26:55] <Kyros> php -S for the server
• 709[04:27:03] <Kyros> -t defines where index.php should be also
• 710[04:27:40] <ryouma> is it useful to have a printer installed when you install cups? is cups the printer system to use? idk what kind of printer i will be using.
• 711[04:27:47] <yakiza> Kyros: man for some reason all my php <include tags are commented out and phpinfo not being displayed
• 712[04:28:10] <Kyros> are you using short tags?
• 713[04:28:48] <yakiza> yeah and i tried to enable them in my php.init but there is not such file in my /etc/php/7.0
• 714[04:29:18] <Kyros> if i remember correctly its something like /etc/php/version/cli/php.ini
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• 716[04:29:36] <yakiza> yeah that php.ini
• 717[04:29:38] <yakiza> i dont have it
• 718[04:30:21] <Kyros> type php --ini
• 719[04:30:36] <Kyros> dude thanks for reminding me why i refuse to do php work anymore
• 720[04:30:54] <michael2> whats, the PHP problem ?
• 721[04:31:10] <Kyros> atm i think he needs to enable short tags
• 722[04:31:20] <Kyros> and is having trouble finding the right .ini file
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• 724[04:31:36] <michael2> strace ?
• 725[04:31:46] <Kyros> php --ini should tell you which one it loads
• 726[04:31:52] <Kyros> or php -i
• 727[04:32:21] <michael2> thats for the cli SAPI
• 728[04:32:39] <Kyros> he is trying to use the builtin php web server
• 729[04:32:43] <Kyros> ie php -S
• 730[04:32:44] <michael2> Im assuming the short tag problem is for a webpage?
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• 733[04:33:05] <michael2> yeah, then don't use php --ini - thats for the wrong SAPI
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• 735[04:33:12] <yakiza> replaced-url
• 736[04:33:15] <michael2> you need the cgi config
• 737[04:33:17] <Kyros> no its not
• 738[04:33:30] <michael2> its for the cli SAPI
• 739[04:33:37] <Kyros> which the command uses
• 740[04:33:40] <Kyros> the builtin server
• 741[04:33:59] <Kyros> not cgi or apache mod
• 742[04:34:07] <michael2> oh, ok
• 743[04:34:22] <yakiza> so do i have a problem with php again?
• 744[04:34:49] <Kyros> wait didnt you install 7.0?
• 745[04:35:05] <yakiza> thats what i have 7.0
• 746[04:35:22] <yakiza> wtf why does it say 7.2?
• 747[04:35:23] <yakiza> ...
• 748[04:35:41] <Kyros> what does it say when you type php --version
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• 751[04:36:31] <yakiza> 7.2
• 752[04:36:32] <yakiza> ...
• 753[04:36:43] <yakiza> but in my etc /php folder i have 7.0
• 754[04:36:46] <yakiza> this is weird
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• 756[04:37:58] <annadane> yakiza originally installed php 7.2 via PPA which we went through the process of removing
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• 758[04:38:11] <yakiza> yes
• 759[04:38:17] <yakiza> i did exactly as you said
• 760[04:38:18] <annadane> i guess we needed to apt purge rather than apt remove
• 761[04:38:53] <annadane> can you paste aptitude search ~c
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• 763[04:40:00] <yakiza> replaced-url
• 764[04:40:19] <annadane> i think apt purge php7.2-mysql would be safe?
• 765[04:40:32] <annadane> do you have any configuration you want to keep from there though, may want to back it up
• 766[04:40:41] <Kyros> did you remove the ppa?
• 767[04:40:58] <yakiza> done
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• 769[04:41:03] <yakiza> yes we did that with annadane
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• 771[04:41:37] <yakiza> php --ini still has 7.2 in it
• 772[04:43:20] <yakiza> did it
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• 774[04:43:41] <yakiza> for some reason i had 7.2 still somewhere i did apt remove 7.2 and i got 7.0 at php --ini
• 775[04:44:07] <yakiza> Kyros: isnt it bad that i have no ini file how can i enable the short tags now?
• 776[04:44:07] <Kyros> so php --version runs 7.0 now?
• 777[04:44:30] <Kyros> you can just make the file most likely
• 778[04:45:01] <Kyros> personally id do a dpkg -l | grep -i php and remove everything and just start fresh
• 779[04:45:12] <Kyros> also apt show package php-cli before you reinstall to make sure its the right version
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• 781[04:46:43] <yakiza> Kyros: so i type this correct ?
• 782[04:46:45] <yakiza> Kyros: dpkg -l | grep -i php7.0-mysql
• 783[04:46:58] <Kyros> do dpkg -l | grep -i php
• 784[04:47:03] <Kyros> so you can see all the php packages
• 785[04:47:09] <yakiza> yeah and then
• 786[04:47:17] <yakiza> i mean i ithink the one i need is 7.0-mysql
• 787[04:47:21] <yakiza> but it doesnt do anything
• 788[04:47:34] <Kyros> are you showing different versions still?
• 789[04:47:37] <Kyros> or any otrher funkiness
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• 791[04:48:42] <yakiza> ii php7.0-mysql 7.0.30-0+deb9u1 amd64 MySQL module for PHP
• 792[04:48:46] <yakiza> oops
• 793[04:48:51] <yakiza> i thought it was really short
• 794[04:49:35] <yakiza> Kyros: now what?
• 795[04:49:43] <Kyros> do you have php7.0-mbstring also
• 796[04:50:13] <yakiza> not sure
• 797[04:50:13] <Kyros> here is what id do first
• 798[04:50:19] <yakiza> okay
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• 800[04:50:37] <Kyros> mkdir a dir with a single file called index.php and put <?php phpinfo(); ?> in it
• 801[04:50:46] <Kyros> then run php -S -t dir
• 802[04:51:40] <Kyros> actually just do php -S localhost:8000 -t dir
• 803[04:51:48] <Kyros> then do to that in the browser
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• 810[04:54:30] <yakiza> Kyros: i get it
• 811[04:54:32] <yakiza> it runs
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• 813[04:54:56] <Kyros> now you can look through the configuration and see if you are missing any modules etc
• 814[04:55:09] <yakiza> how can i know ?
• 815[04:55:13] <yakiza> i mean i am new to php
• 816[04:55:26] <Kyros> ctrl+f and look for pdo and mysql
• 817[04:55:36] <Kyros> are you planning on using a framework?
• 818[04:56:08] <yakiza> Kyros: not now i just want pdo mysql and short tags to be working nothing else really
• 819[04:56:15] <yakiza> i can see net to pdo and mysql names
• 820[04:56:23] <Kyros> you can probably search for short tags and see if they are enabled or not
• 821[04:56:46] <yakiza> they are on
• 822[04:56:54] <yakiza> then why they are commented out?
• 823[04:57:09] <Kyros> what do you mean exactly
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• 825[04:58:23] <yakiza> well when i open localhost iall my <?php include tags are commented by html and also pdo i dont have it just tryed to run something pdo
• 826[04:59:57] <Kyros> does dpkg -l | grep -i pdo show anything?
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• 828[05:00:35] <Kyros> is there a command to list the files in a package with apt
• 829[05:00:39] <Kyros> like dpkg -L but apt
• 830[05:00:51] <yakiza> replaced-url
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• 833[05:01:37] <Kyros> something is still wonky with your install cause it should have put a php.ini and enabled those modules
• 834[05:02:03] <yakiza> isnt there an available .ini file i can download for instance?
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• 839[05:04:45] <Kyros> im almost positive it comes with the php-cli package
• 840[05:05:03] <Kyros> its annoying too cause there is a different for apache or cgi fcgi etc
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• 842[05:05:50] <Kyros> if you give me a minute im setting up a vm so i can check
• 843[05:05:58] <annadane> so apt install --reinstall php-cli maybe
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• 845[05:06:28] <Kyros> yeah
• 846[05:06:34] <annadane> or failing that, one sec
• 847[05:06:43] <Kyros> i have a feeling he is still going to have issues with moduleks not being enabled though
• 848[05:07:21] <annadane> replaced-url
• 849[05:07:33] <Kyros> hmm
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• 854[05:10:16] <yakiza> i purged the whole php and installed it again i have a php.ini file now i enabled short tags and i commented out the pdo extension but i still cant work with pdo and my short tags are commented in html
• 855[05:11:04] <Kyros> why did you comment out pdo?
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• 859[05:11:46] <michael2> what is the short tags setting for the cgi SAPI?
• 860[05:11:55] <michael2> I think you can get that with:
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• 862[05:12:15] <michael2> <?php get_phpinfo();
• 863[05:12:16] <Kyros> are you trying to run something else through apache?
• 864[05:12:24] <Kyros> its just phpinfo()
• 865[05:12:33] <michael2> yeah phpinfo();
• 866[05:12:53] <yakiza> sec
• 867[05:13:05] <michael2> put that in a file and browse to it
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• 870[05:13:58] <yakiza> in phpinfo i can see pdo enabled for mysql
• 871[05:14:13] <yakiza> and short tags ON
• 872[05:14:23] <Kyros> what you trying to run that isnt working?
• 873[05:14:25] <yakiza> so i really dont know why they are not beingdisplaed
• 874[05:14:32] <yakiza> a website i am developing
• 875[05:14:49] <yakiza> i have <?php include 'includes/contact.php';?>
• 876[05:14:51] <yakiza> for instance
• 877[05:14:57] <Kyros> are you using the php -S localhost:8000 -t dir method to launch it or does it use apache/nginx/etc?
• 878[05:15:32] <michael2> and what is happening? the php code is not being run?
• 879[05:15:46] <Kyros> it sounded like its not getting rendered
• 880[05:15:56] <yakiza> Kyros: now i am and i have nothing all i can see is just a white background and
• 881[05:16:15] <yakiza> michael2: its being commented out
• 882[05:16:17] <michael2> what is your php error log saying?
• 883[05:16:19] <Kyros> ok edit the php.ini again and turen on error_reporting
• 884[05:16:52] <Kyros> it should have a recommended debug setting for it in there
• 885[05:16:53] <Kyros> use that one
• 886[05:22:20] <yakiza> where are the logs saved though
• 887[05:22:41] <Kyros> that will just display the error on the page
• 888[05:23:58] <annadane> quite possibly in the thing i told you to purge, though i did say "you may want to back it up"
• 889[05:24:04] <yakiza> i can see no errors
• 890[05:24:13] <Kyros> just white screen?
• 891[05:24:16] <yakiza> yes
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• 893[05:24:47] <annadane> is it not in /etc/mysql or /etc/mariadb
• 894[05:24:47] <Kyros> ok let me look real quick
• 895[05:25:00] <Kyros> in php.ini display_errors = On
• 896[05:25:19] <Kyros> and display_startup_error = On
• 897[05:25:22] <Kyros> change those two
• 898[05:25:33] <Kyros> :q
• 899[05:25:35] <yakiza> displaystartup not yet sec
• 900[05:26:06] <Kyros> the display_errors = On is the import one
• 901[05:26:09] <yakiza> but still nothign
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• 903[05:26:50] <Kyros> do this also phpenmod mysqlnd and phpenmod pho_mysql as root
• 904[05:26:58] <Kyros> i got that vm setup so i can look now
• 905[05:27:37] <Kyros> phpenmod pdo_mysql <- i typoed the first time
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• 907[05:28:35] <yakiza> now
• 908[05:28:35] <yakiza> sec
• 909[05:29:01] <yakiza> phpenmod what parameter?
• 910[05:29:08] <michael2> is display_error = on? thats important
• 911[05:29:24] <yakiza> michael2: yes it is
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• 913[05:29:33] <yakiza> but where si the file that those errors are saved?
• 914[05:29:35] <michael2> becuase php will withhold displaying stacktrace/error info for secrutity reasons
• 915[05:29:44] <Kyros> phpenmod mysqlnd; phpenmod pdo_mysql
• 916[05:30:07] <yakiza> i run those and i just got prompted with a new command line
• 917[05:30:19] <Kyros> good that means it worked
• 918[05:30:19] <michael2> yakiza: it depends on the SAPI you are running - what are you running cli/nginx/apache?
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• 920[05:30:36] <Kyros> i should show any errors in the console
• 921[05:30:48] <Kyros> cd
• 922[05:30:49] <Kyros> ls
• 923[05:31:10] <michael2> so they are running `php -S' ?
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• 925[05:31:40] <Kyros> in the .ini set output_buffering = Off
• 926[05:31:57] <Kyros> and log_errors = On also
• 927[05:32:14] <yakiza> no errors in console
• 928[05:32:24] <yakiza> op
• 929[05:32:25] <yakiza> error
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• 931[05:32:49] <yakiza> replaced-url
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• 935[05:33:43] <Kyros> i didnt have to change my ini at all and i get errors in the console
• 936[05:33:59] <yakiza> we are doomed
• 937[05:34:26] <Kyros> the phpinfo() runs right?
• 938[05:36:26] <yakiza> yes
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• 943[05:38:26] <RoyK> IMHO PHP is for shite
• 944[05:38:34] <Kyros> RoyK: for real
• 945[05:38:47] <Kyros> [22:30:35] <Kyros> dude thanks for reminding me why i refuse to do php work anymore
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• 947[05:39:32] <Kyros> yakiza: honestly man if the phpinfo runs and the modules you need are loaded then its something in youir code
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• 949[05:39:39] <Kyros> cause we've covered almost everything else i can think of
• 950[05:39:43] <RoyK> QBASIC next
• 951[05:39:49] <RoyK> or COBOL
• 952[05:40:19] <RoyK> or perhaps FORTRAN75?
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• 955[05:41:18] <RoyK> FORTRAN77, that was, sorry
• 956[05:42:17] <yakiza> Kyros: honestly my code is a copy paste from a working code
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• 958[05:42:47] <yakiza> RoyK: wanna take a look?
• 959[05:43:08] <Kyros> does it use mod_rewrite or anything?
• 960[05:43:26] <yakiza> no
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• 962[05:43:52] * RoyK is off to bed and don't want to read php tonight
• 963[05:43:58] <Kyros> in the simple phpinfo file remove that line and just put <?php echo 1/0;
• 964[05:44:02] <Kyros> and run it
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• 966[05:44:08] <Kyros> see if it shows errors in the console or webpage
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• 970[05:46:05] <yakiza> Kyros: this is the only error replaced-url
• 971[05:46:22] <Kyros> wtf
• 972[05:46:25] <Kyros> .dll?
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• 975[05:47:14] <yakiza> yeah i dont know wtf is that
• 976[05:47:20] <yakiza> but with every php install i have dll
• 977[05:47:23] <yakiza> dunno
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• 981[05:47:51] <Kyros> in your php.ini comment out the php_pd_mysql.dll line
• 982[05:47:59] <annadane> isn't .dll some windows extension thing
• 983[05:48:00] <Kyros> thats windows stuff
• 984[05:48:13] <annadane> that has to be left over from the PPA
• 985[05:48:42] <Kyros> im looking at my php.ini and it has a ;extension=php_pdo_mysql.dll line in it
• 986[05:48:50] <Kyros> so go comment that back out
• 987[05:48:59] <yakiza> ok
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• 989[05:50:29] <yakiza> i did same thing again
• 990[05:51:22] <Kyros> it says it cant load the .dll?
• 991[05:52:19] <yakiza> not now i just get a white screen
• 992[05:52:30] <Kyros> hehe
• 993[05:52:32] <yakiza> and my code doesnt run at all the od
• 994[05:52:37] <yakiza> look man
• 995[05:52:44] <yakiza> i think the most wise think to do now
• 996[05:52:44] <yakiza> is
• 997[05:53:03] <Kyros> id purge everything and start fresh
• 998[05:53:06] <yakiza> get some sleep wake up and destroy this laptop
• 999[05:53:08] <yakiza> hahaha
• 1000[05:53:23] <annadane> now you know not to install PPAs. that being said i hope my support was ok and didn't screw up anything
• 1001[05:53:25] <yakiza> i am really tired its 5 am here woke up 24 hr ago maybe more
• 1002[05:53:33] <yakiza> gusy you kidding
• 1003[05:53:35] <yakiza> loved you
• 1004[05:53:46] <Kyros> yakiza: aight hit me up tomorrow if you want to trey again
• 1005[05:53:48] <yakiza> you gonna be my buddies now expect me
• 1006[05:53:53] <Kyros> especially with a fresh system we can get it running quickly
• 1007[05:53:59] <yakiza> hopefully
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• 1009[05:54:09] <yakiza> gn peeps o/
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• 1011[05:54:13] <Kyros> nn
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• 1014[05:56:14] <Espopore> debian is a good distr
• 1015[05:56:23] <annadane> it is. =)
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• 1022[06:01:12] <Espopore> we love it because it is nice!
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• 1025[06:02:57] <Kyros> i like it because it doesnt break my network connectivity like ubuntu did with their latest LTS patch
• 1026[06:03:06] <Kyros> kernel patch
• 1027[06:03:31] <annadane> stability seems boring but IMO you don't want an operating system changing on you
• 1028[06:03:42] <Kyros> for real
• 1029[06:04:08] <annadane> be nice if debian had ports for newer stuff but you can always just download something and compile
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• 1031[06:04:33] <Kyros> have you ever used checkinstall? i just found that cause of that exact issue
• 1032[06:04:40] <annadane> nope
• 1033[06:04:40] <Kyros> needed a newer lib for something
• 1034[06:04:57] <Kyros> you run it install of make install and it makes a .deb
• 1035[06:05:10] <Kyros> s/install/instead
• 1036[06:05:21] <annadane> yeah but the issue with all these things is needing to manually keep on top of security fixes and newer upstream versions
• 1037[06:05:56] <Kyros> well yeah but this one project i follow
• 1038[06:06:21] <Kyros> it was the only "custom" thing on this system
• 1039[06:06:27] <moussa> anyone has a toshiba laptop satelite that the fan stopped working after an upgrade?
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• 1041[06:07:38] <moussa> fancontrol can't find the sensor either
• 1042[06:08:03] <Espopore> after an upgrade?
• 1043[06:08:45] <moussa> not sure when it happen , yeah after apt upgrade
• 1044[06:09:25] <annadane> actually tbph you don't need ports, sometimes you really do want to keep old versions
• 1045[06:09:43] <annadane> i don't know... most things you really can just compile or put in a chroot or whatever
• 1046[06:09:50] <annadane> it's exceptionally rare you can't
• 1047[06:10:15] <annadane> moussa, well what got upgraded
• 1048[06:11:33] <moussa> that what i am trying to figure out
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• 1050[06:11:58] <annadane> and you're on debian 9?
• 1051[06:12:04] <moussa> yes
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• 1054[06:12:24] <moussa> most of my pcs are
• 1055[06:13:26] <moussa> i only noticed when the started to smell the electronics, as the fan usually sit on a humming ratio
• 1056[06:13:52] <moussa> the fan works because when i restart the laptop it comes on
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• 1082[06:37:57] <moussa> ok
• 1083[06:38:04] <moussa> acpi PNP0A08:00: _OSC failed (AE_NOT_FOUND); disabling ASPM <===bug??
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• 1103[06:57:10] <moussa> and no joy
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• 1129[07:19:25] <michael2> I've installed pavucontrol, and rebooted. My computer still has no sound. what is the next step to debug?
• 1130[07:19:51] <michael2> If i play a video in firefox - pavucontrol registers the stream, but no sound in speakers
• 1131[07:20:20] <michael2> pactl list sinks says "sink #0 RUNNING"
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• 1137[07:23:48] <michael2> I see /usr/bin/pulseaudio has a process running. but I don't see which systemd service started it?
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• 1141[07:27:13] <rgr> replaced-url
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• 1144[07:29:43] <michael2> thanks, yes, after reading some of that thread, I can confirm pulse audio is running under my user account
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• 1155[07:38:20] <moussa> ideas anyone regard the fan on my toshiba t1110?
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• 1169[07:54:52] <moussa> hh
• 1170[07:55:10] <michael2> if, why doesn't pulse audio log any errors when there is no functioning sound driver?
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• 1175[07:57:38] <moussa> sound logical to me
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• 1181[08:02:21] <michael2> logical that the sound server doesn't report errors when it can't connect a sink to a sound device?
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• 1185[08:04:01] <rgr> yes
• 1186[08:04:18] <rgr> if there's no device there is no device. There is no error.
• 1187[08:04:47] <rgr> is there a verbosity setting?
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• 1196[08:08:21] <michael2> there is a device there though.
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• 1198[08:08:40] <michael2> pactl list sinks is reporting it
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• 1202[08:08:54] <michael2> so does lspci | grep -i audio
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• 1210[08:14:25] <rgr> check you dont have rogue values in .asoundrc or whatever its called. You can google.
• 1211[08:14:34] <rgr> local and in /etc
• 1212[08:14:50] <rgr> btw, yes Linux sound sucks arse.
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• 1214[08:16:38] <michael2> there is no active asoundrc on my system
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• 1216[08:19:17] <michael2> do I need to reboot after installing alsautils?
• 1217[08:19:24] <rgr> they all work together in a horrible mess.
• 1218[08:19:44] <rgr> shouldnt need to. but then ....
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• 1220[08:20:52] <michael2> is there a simple way to test sound?
• 1221[08:20:56] <michael2> is working?
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• 1227[08:26:04] <michael2> woo, the answer was actually on the debian wiki here:
• 1228[08:26:06] <michael2> replaced-url
• 1229[08:26:16] <michael2> \o/
• 1230[08:26:22] <rgr> gnome sound settings have a test.
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• 1232[08:26:31] <rgr> plus atest or aplay or whatever it is.
• 1233[08:26:39] <rgr> what as it?
• 1234[08:27:26] <michael2> huh?
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• 1236[08:27:43] <michael2> you mean what was the fix?
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• 1238[08:28:01] <michael2> sudo alsactl init
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• 1240[08:28:25] <rgr> noew reboot and and check you dont have to do that again.
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• 1244[08:31:10] <Haohmaru> huh, i can't open that page
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• 1294[09:10:17] <vincent-> Hello. Could anyone help me with suspend and hibernate? I have posted in the forum but so far I got no replies: replaced-url
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• 1577[12:25:04] <JorgeDG> HI
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• 1579[12:25:17] <JorgeDG> im trying to compile c++ with the console and when I write down "gcc file.cpp -o file" it says "undefined reference" to everything
• 1580[12:25:22] <JorgeDG> any help?
• 1581[12:25:46] <JorgeDG> Im new in linux, sorry if its stupid question
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• 1584[12:26:30] <blackflow> JorgeDG: that's not a linux issue, but C/C++ programming issue. You're probably missing headers containing declarations and/or libs containing definitions for undefined names.
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• 1587[12:27:32] <JorgeDG> I dont think so...
• 1588[12:27:53] <blackflow> well you may not, but the compiler definitely does :)
• 1589[12:28:15] <JorgeDG> I have just put "cout" and it says "undefined reference std::cout"
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• 1591[12:28:22] <petn-randall> JorgeDG: My guess is you should be using g++ instead of gcc.
• 1592[12:28:22] <blackflow> even if you have all the #includes, the compiler might not know where to look for those
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• 1594[12:30:48] <JorgeDG> it worked with g++
• 1595[12:30:53] <JorgeDG> Thank u so much
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• 1597[12:31:17] <JorgeDG> and sorry for the stupid question in the wrong server
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• 1600[12:32:44] <petn-randall> JorgeDG: It's fine. Glad I could help. :)
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• 1671[13:37:34] <Hercules> where is kernel in dvd iso?
• 1672[13:37:53] <Hercules> (or kernel source code)
• 1673[13:38:08] <petn-randall> Hercules: The one that gets booted, or the one that gets installed? What problem are you trying to solve?
• 1674[13:38:47] <Hercules> nah I'm just interested to know
• 1675[13:38:59] <Hercules> I am talking about the one supplied in iso
• 1676[13:39:24] <RoyK> IIRC the source packages aren't in the iso
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• 1679[13:40:23] <petn-randall> Hercules: Both get supplied in the ISO. One is needed to boot, and the other is used to install on the system.
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• 1683[13:41:21] <Hercules> ah I see
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• 1690[13:42:11] <petn-randall> Hercules: If you have an installed system, you can simply download any source package of any binary package with "apt-get source <packagename>".
• 1691[13:42:26] <petn-randall> Only case you won't get the original source is from the non-free binaries.
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• 1715[13:56:33] <Longo> Hi all
• 1716[13:57:02] <Longo> I have a fresh install, onto which i'm going to install some security camera video software as a .deb
• 1717[13:57:17] <Longo> However, and i know this is going to sound dumb, i don't trust the security camera software
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• 1719[13:57:27] <Longo> I mean, that's why i have security cameras. I don't trust stuff.
• 1720[13:57:50] <Longo> Is there a way to install a file in like a BSD Jail, so i know it can't get out and do weird things on my home network
• 1721[13:57:50] <colo-work> you can extract the .deb and look at its contents. `ar yourfile.deb`, then look around (two compressed .tar-archives should stand out in particular)
• 1722[13:58:10] <Longo> Particularly great if i could lock it down to certain ports, and even better, only communicate with certain IPs
• 1723[13:58:26] <colo-work> you could use a systemd container to create a second instance of Debian on your host, and install the .deb in there
• 1724[13:58:29] <petn-randall> Longo: Run it in a VM if you don't trust it.
• 1725[13:58:43] <Longo> colo-work: oh, i don't expect I could detect something sneaky in a company's code. That would take me weeks of audit time
• 1726[13:59:01] <Longo> petn-randall: which VM would you recommend? I'm quite new to VMs
• 1727[13:59:16] <Longo> (on Linux, i usually use them to run linux on OSX/Win)
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• 1729[13:59:18] <petn-randall> Longo: Any virtualization tech solves the issue that you're seeing.
• 1730[13:59:22] <majd> Hi all - I'm running debian-stretch-slim in a docker container. I'm trying to use envsubst, but i'm getting `envsubst: not found`. When I try to `apt-get install envsubst`, I get `E: Unable to locate package envsubst`
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• 1732[13:59:27] <majd> What's going on?
• 1733[14:00:14] <petn-randall> majd: It's because you don't have gettext-base installed in your "slim" container.
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• 1735[14:00:26] <majd> oooh
• 1736[14:00:27] <petn-randall> majd: replaced-url
• 1737[14:00:49] <petn-randall> As with a lot of other things, too. If you want something, you likely have to install it.
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• 1755[14:13:54] <majd> petn-randall: ah, you're right. I installed gettext-base and it worked!
• 1756[14:14:01] <majd> Many thanks
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• 1758[14:14:25] <petn-randall> majd: You're welcome.
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• 1764[14:18:05] <Longo> Out of gnome, xfce, kde, cinnamon, mate and lxde, are any better suited for a media pc?
• 1765[14:18:28] <petn-randall> !best
• 1766[14:18:29] <dpkg> Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis!
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• 1768[14:18:33] <Longo> It's an older computer with now ssd and 3Tb HDD, but the mobo is old, cpu is a core 2 duo @ 2.4Ghz.
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• 1770[14:18:44] <Longo> Hahahah
• 1771[14:18:52] <petn-randall> Longo: They'll all work, it's a matter of taste, really.
• 1772[14:18:59] <SpeedyG> Longo: I like xfce on my fairly older pc... because its relatively light-weight... but... as it says... !best :)
• 1773[14:19:13] <petn-randall> Longo: If you're tight on RAM, I'd maybe avoid gnome/kde, but that's about it.
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• 1775[14:19:26] <Longo> All great advice - thanks so much :D
• 1776[14:19:38] <Longo> I have 2Gb of RAM, so perhaps it's best to go XFCE. i'm used to it
• 1777[14:20:03] <Longo> for some reason I thought a desktop environment that looked nice, would be better for media PC, but probably i need the RAM for VLC/mplayer D:
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• 1779[14:20:30] <SpeedyG> in the end, when you play a video full screen, the appearance of the WM/DM doesnt matter at all ;)
• 1780[14:20:45] <Longo> SpeedyG: is that so? it just doesn't render the stuff behind it?
• 1781[14:20:45] <petn-randall> It should run fine with Kodi (which I'm guessing you're using), but if you've already spent money on a SSD, I'd throw in $10 and get more RAM, too.
• 1782[14:20:50] <Longo> I always wondered that actually
• 1783[14:21:12] <petn-randall> I'd expect it not to, but it might still keep it in RAM for when you tab back in.
• 1784[14:21:14] <SpeedyG> Longo: 'appearance' != rendering etc ;) thats just the way it looks ;)
• 1785[14:21:51] <Longo> right, haha
• 1786[14:22:20] <Longo> well i've gone for xfce. Actually, i could do with no desktop env at all, if i could from the terminal somehow play a video to the HDMI port directly
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• 1790[14:22:33] <SpeedyG> for a matter, I dont particularly like the way xfce looks out of the box.... but hey, it works and is suitable for my performance needs :)
• 1791[14:22:35] <Longo> like, the only rendering it can do is full-screen video and audio
• 1792[14:22:38] <Longo> is that possible?
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• 1796[14:23:19] <ebrasca> annadane: I have found Debootstrap XD
• 1797[14:23:22] <Longo> SpeedyG: yeah, i've always felt XFCE lacked... detailing. Small things. It's plain, which is fine, but just fine.
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• 1803[14:26:16] <HicksD> Longo: I'm pretty sureI've seen something along those lines that worked with a framebuffer via terminal only
• 1804[14:26:24] <HicksD> but don't recall what it was.
• 1805[14:26:47] <HicksD> xfce isn't great looking but I like its minimalism and "classic" feel :)
• 1806[14:27:10] <Longo> i will look into that! The more i think about this, the more i think - why can't i watch video in the terminal. Video is a lot easier to parse and display correctly than say... HTML :P
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• 1861[14:58:30] <fling> HicksD: what do you think about lxde?
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• 1863[15:00:15] <HicksD> never used it
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• 1877[15:07:09] <RoyK> fling: IMHO something nice if you have a really crappy laptop ;)
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• 1880[15:10:28] <Haohmaru> i use LXDE, it's gud
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• 1882[15:11:41] <fling> RoyK: exactly! I installed it on a crappy toshiba.
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• 1885[15:12:13] <fling> RoyK: can't figure out how to tell bios I don't want it to limit kvm and gigabit usage
• 1886[15:12:36] <fling> Haohmaru: how gud is it?
• 1887[15:13:11] <Haohmaru> it's conservative in terms of RAM (gud), and looks simple
• 1888[15:13:30] <Haohmaru> i like the lxpanel "start" menu too
• 1889[15:13:52] <fling> Sounds gud.
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• 1891[15:14:06] <fling> Haohmaru: have not you tried using it with compiz?
• 1892[15:14:33] <Haohmaru> PCManFM is nifty, it can browse networks and it can even be used for connecting to scp (or whatever it's called)
• 1893[15:14:39] <Haohmaru> no
• 1894[15:15:35] <fling> I can't get time slider working in neither gnome or lumina fm :<
• 1895[15:15:43] <fling> I would like PCManFM to just have it.
• 1896[15:15:51] <Haohmaru> time slider?
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• 1898[15:16:46] <fling> Haohmaru: the thing allowing you to see previous snapshots content by dragging the slider to the left.
• 1899[15:17:07] <Haohmaru> previous snapshots of what?
• 1900[15:17:11] <fling> Haohmaru: of zfs
• 1901[15:17:26] <Haohmaru> okay, no idea about that
• 1902[15:17:57] <fling> Haohmaru: it looks like a time machine where you could look what the previous files looked like in the past.
• 1903[15:18:30] <fling> I've seen it working ten years ago in gnome but now only lumina says it works but it does not show the gui for the slider for some reason.
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• 1908[15:20:42] <Haohmaru> *shrug*
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• 1910[15:20:51] <Haohmaru> i doubt PCManFM has it
• 1911[15:21:00] <blackflow> fling: uhm... what slider is that? what program?
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• 1915[15:23:34] <fling> blackflow: not sure. The file browser in gnome.
• 1916[15:23:40] <fling> blackflow: and lumina-fm
• 1917[15:24:42] <blackflow> first time I hear of that in linux or a bsd program. with the exception of Lumina I think I've read a few months ago that they're working toward Time-machine-like integration with zfs
• 1918[15:26:09] <blackflow> pretty sure that didn't exist 10 years ago, so you must be thinking of something else?
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• 1920[15:26:09] <fling> blackflow: youtube says it was atleast 10 years ago in gnome.
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• 1936[15:30:25] <fling> blackflow: what is the name of gnome file manager?
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• 1941[15:31:17] <blackflow> fling: Nautilus?
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• 1969[15:54:45] <fling> blackflow: can't find it on youtube!
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• 1997[16:12:32] <russoisraeli> hello folks. I've installed the latest Debian. For some weird reason the OpenSSH server config files are all empty - exist but with 0 size. Any idea why and/or how I can get the defaults?
• 1998[16:13:01] <greycat> Ran out of disk space?
• 1999[16:13:26] <russoisraeli> greycat - not according to "df" :)
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• 2003[16:14:13] <RoyK> russoisraeli: anything in dmesg?
• 2004[16:14:14] <greycat> Once you figure out how to prevent them from being truncated again, your bet bet would be to purge the openssh-server package and reinstall it.
• 2005[16:14:25] <RoyK> might be some issues with your drive
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• 2007[16:14:45] <russoisraeli> RoyK - nothing relevant in dmesg
• 2008[16:14:46] <babilen> "df -i" ? dmesg? any other problems?
• 2009[16:15:03] <russoisraeli> inodes are well
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• 2011[16:15:13] <russoisraeli> brand new VM with 20G of disk space
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• 2013[16:15:38] <russoisraeli> ok, I guess I'll remove and install openssh-server again
• 2014[16:15:45] <greycat> Not remove. Purge.
• 2015[16:16:12] <RoyK> if it were 20TB or 20PB, I'd wonder, but 20GB is nothing
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• 2017[16:17:00] <russoisraeli> greycat - "apt-get remove" insufficient
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• 2020[16:17:11] <greycat> Hmm, purging may not be enough. The /etc/ssh/sshd_config file is handled specially. You may have to delete that manually in addition to purging the package.
• 2021[16:17:12] <russoisraeli> RoyK - in any case, according to "df" there's plenty of space
• 2022[16:17:20] <russoisraeli> ok
• 2023[16:17:20] <greycat> russoisraeli: dpkg --purge
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• 2028[16:17:40] <RoyK> apt purge should do it
• 2029[16:17:55] <greycat> I do believe he'll have to remove the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file manually.
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• 2032[16:18:40] <RoyK> greycat: apt purge should do that unless it's altered
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• 2036[16:20:07] <babilen> So, what happens if you run the postinst script manually?
• 2037[16:20:21] <babilen> Might want to add a "set -x" if it isn't immediately obvious
• 2038[16:20:27] <greycat> RoyK: /etc/ssh/sshd_config is *not* listed as a regular conffile. It's generated specially in the postinst script.
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• 2040[16:20:42] <babilen> /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst
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• 2042[16:20:59] <russoisraeli> Thank you! purge followed by install did the job!
• 2043[16:21:13] <russoisraeli> I guess purge is a heavy remove :)
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• 2045[16:21:31] <babilen> Purge removes configuration and other files
• 2046[16:22:05] <babilen> If you never purge you end up with quite a bit of cruft. If you've never done it, I'd investigate "aptitude search '~c'" and consider "apt-get --purge autoremove"
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• 2051[16:23:39] <russoisraeli> many thanks to you all
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• 2053[16:24:26] <RoyK> greycat: so how did apt purge help russoisraeli? ;)
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• 2055[16:24:54] <edisonbulb> i dont know why it matters to me but how can i verify that popcon data is being uploaded
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• 2058[16:26:45] <greycat> RoyK: ... it's in the postrm script. Fairly well hidden.
• 2059[16:26:45] <russoisraeli> RoyK - purge sounded scary :)
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• 2068[16:30:39] <babilen> russoisraeli: Much like "dist-upgrade" it is a tool that you can use to achieve a certain effect
• 2069[16:31:08] <babilen> And most things can be dealt with. In particular if you have recent/good backups
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• 2211[18:02:03] <ashleyk> sysvinit-core kind of worked, but i still have systemd-udevd, systemd-logind
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• 2213[18:02:16] <ashleyk> how do i remove that
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• 2221[18:06:12] <n4dir> ashleyk: does that mean simply using apt-get, apt, aptitude doesn't work?
• 2222[18:06:38] <n4dir> if yes: aptitude why systemd-udevd might give a hint.
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• 2224[18:07:13] <ashleyk> i can just remove them?
• 2225[18:07:13] <blackflow> you can't just uninstall systemd-udev, you need a replacement for it.
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• 2231[18:09:39] <ashleyk> blackflow, same with systemd-logind?
• 2232[18:09:42] <n4dir> sure isn't installed here. You sure, blackflow
• 2233[18:09:52] <n4dir> and with systemd installed ...
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• 2236[18:11:00] <blackflow> n4dir: _an_ udev is needed. the traditional udev got merged into systemd project. the alternatives are things like eudev which I don't know if it's packaged for debian.
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• 2238[18:11:31] <blackflow> meanwhile, it took Devuan folks over a year to de-systemdize Debian. Despite of what Debian folks would tell you about init freedom being possible, if you really want systemd-free experience, Debian ain't it.
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• 2241[18:11:55] <colo-work> the good news about this being that noone with a clue actually cares
• 2242[18:12:12] <ashleyk> its not about systemd...lennarts code has been determined to be a security risk we arent willing to take, here
• 2243[18:12:16] <colo-work> systemd is just so much better than what was there before... embrace it, and do not look back
• 2244[18:12:17] <n4dir> blackflow: well, udev is installed here. anyway.
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• 2246[18:12:34] <blackflow> n4dir: and that's systemd's udev
• 2247[18:12:39] <n4dir> i sure do agree that in the long run debian systemd free is not a good idea. There are better options
• 2248[18:12:58] <ashleyk> hmm...
• 2249[18:13:11] <ashleyk> my system is going to break?
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• 2252[18:13:35] <blackflow> ashleyk: in my opinion yes. if it were as easy as that, Devuan would not exist.
• 2253[18:13:41] <n4dir> blackflow: i see.
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• 2256[18:14:02] <n4dir> being sid it seems to be named simply udev, but apt-cache show tells more.
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• 2262[18:15:38] <n4dir> ashleyk: perhaps not break. But due to dependencies on systemd-***, quite some packages will miss. And one of the good things of debian is it's huge package repository. So ... doesn't really make much sense. Lots of work. etc.
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• 2265[18:16:05] <ashleyk> good advice i think...
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• 2267[18:17:38] <n4dir> time will tell. I got one eye on debian without systemd, and a few other eyes on different distros and operating systems
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• 2270[18:18:23] <ashleyk> well i already got Kali running on linode, might as well do another custom distro
• 2271[18:19:11] <EdePopede> hi. want to ad my locale now, replaced-url
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• 2273[18:19:46] <f0x> ashleyk: what why
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• 2277[18:21:08] <n4dir> ashleyk: probably everyone speaks of devuan as they make so much noise. antiX and MX are also there (for the ones who want to go the debian-based but no systemd route).
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• 2280[18:22:11] <ashleyk> im using the former on my embedded systems so probably just stick with it
• 2281[18:22:39] <ashleyk> well on odroid, on rpi im using slackware
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• 2303[18:36:37] <Nemin> Hello, I have installed Firefox using Apt and it works well, except that it can't open any third-party links. What I mean by this, is if I have an .html file on my desktop and I try to open it, Firefox complains that "to open a new window the current one must be closed or the system must be restarted". Same thing happens if I try to open a link from Discord. What should I do to fix this?
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• 2322[18:49:28] <akko> p o i u y t r e w q
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• 2336[18:54:28] <PaddyScribo> hello, is it better to install stable first and then dist-upgrade to testing or install testing directly? (its only for game testing)
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• 2340[18:55:42] <n4dir> iirc testing also tests the debian-installer, so i would go for install stable without gui, then upgrade. But i for one never failed with installing testing directly either.
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• 2342[18:56:24] <PaddyScribo> yes :)
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• 2358[19:03:55] <petn-randall> PaddyScribo: "game testing"? Not sure what you want to test here.
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• 2360[19:04:15] <PaddyScribo> here? no, nothing with irc
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• 2362[19:04:46] <petn-randall> PaddyScribo: Note that testing (Debian buster) is still a moving target, so libraries currently change every couple of days. So something that runs on testing *now* might not in a week or so.
• 2363[19:04:47] <PaddyScribo> petn-randall: i want to find out which distro runs the games that i like
• 2364[19:05:03] <petn-randall> PaddyScribo: Which games though?
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• 2368[19:05:40] <petn-randall> PaddyScribo: Usually they're quite specific on which platforms it'll run, and most of the time it's some release of Ubuntu.
• 2369[19:06:12] <PaddyScribo> petn-randall: Baldur's Gate, Doom3, Gabriel Knight, retro stuff
• 2370[19:06:27] <PaddyScribo> mostly shopped from gog.com
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• 2372[19:07:18] <blackflow> doom3 has linux binary, worked like a charm, even on Debian. even Doom3 BFG re-master works fine under wine.
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• 2374[19:08:13] <petn-randall> PaddyScribo: For retro stuff there's retroarch, which builds on libretro. It should run the most common legacy game console games (NES, gameboy, SNES, playstation 1, N64, etc.).
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• 2376[19:08:51] <PaddyScribo> oh, thats nice. glad that i asked then
• 2377[19:08:56] <blackflow> (funny when games from late 2000s are "retro". then what are games we grew up with back in 1980s and 1990s :) )
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• 2379[19:09:12] <n4dir> lol.
• 2380[19:09:28] <PaddyScribo> :D
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• 2385[19:11:06] <EdePopede> pong ftw!
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• 2416[19:28:19] <bleb> random question. does icecat remove all the sponsored stories & pocket popups from firefox?
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• 2418[19:29:10] <bleb> i know some/most of that stuff can be disabled in ff setting but i don't want to have to periodically fiddle with my settings whenever moz adds a new anti-feature
• 2419[19:29:33] <bleb> so if icecat fixed that by default i wouldn't have to think about that crap
• 2420[19:30:05] <annadane> i've not extensively used it but i'd have to answer yes because it's from GNU, or try waterfox that also removes that stuff
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• 2423[19:30:23] <FinalX> sponsored stories? pocket popups? no idea what you're referring to.. never had either
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• 2425[19:30:35] <annadane> sponsored stories aren't in ESR, pocket is though
• 2426[19:30:46] <annadane> and ESR is the only version of firefox that comes in stretch
• 2427[19:30:51] <FinalX> sure but I've never had it give me a single popup
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• 2429[19:31:15] <FinalX> ah well, running Firefox Quantum 62.0.3
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• 2434[19:32:59] <annadane> i'm downloading icecat now just to check
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• 2441[19:35:35] <annadane> ew. well i apparently can't even run it because reasons, but yeah i'd be incredibly surprised if GNU didn't remove all that
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• 2443[19:35:59] <annadane> i know for a fact waterfox does
• 2444[19:36:50] <annadane> bleb, actually, ask #gnu
• 2445[19:36:59] <mvaenskae> hm, having a zbook 15 g1 and trying to install debian stretch i am getting some strange installation issues
• 2446[19:37:46] <mvaenskae> it has a hybrid graphics approach with an intel iGPU and an nvidia k2100m but somehow the installer is never able to boot post the "grub" menu sort of
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• 2449[19:39:15] <mvaenskae> the screen just turns black and i cannot really find out why; nomodeset does nothing in the kernel command line (whether i enable or disable hybrid graphics), the usb is verified to work and i cannot get an image out disregarding the video output i chose
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• 2459[19:47:49] <beeman> helooooooooooo
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• 2465[19:49:11] <petn-randall> hi beeman
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• 2467[19:49:36] <beeman> hi petn-randall
• 2468[19:49:39] <beeman> does someone experience any bugs running tiling window manager alongside WM/DE@XFCE?
• 2469[19:49:53] <petn-randall> !survey
• 2470[19:49:53] <dpkg> i guess survey is Don't ask whether 'somebody uses <app>' unless conducting a survey. Ask the question that you want to ask.
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• 2472[19:50:05] <beeman> petn-randall: im not
• 2473[19:50:06] <no_gravity> Good Evening
• 2474[19:50:07] <beeman> IM NOT
• 2475[19:50:08] <beeman> NO
• 2476[19:50:10] <beeman> T
• 2477[19:50:26] <greycat> beeman: ask the actual question, please.
• 2478[19:50:29] <petn-randall> beeman: Try asking your real question.
• 2479[19:50:30] <no_gravity> I have this function in my bashrs to sync a dir of a git repo to the remote: gitsyncdirTOremote() { rsync -av --delete "$1/" "$(git config remote.origin.url)$1/"; }
• 2480[19:50:34] <no_gravity> What would be a good way to ask the user if it should be a dry run or the real deal?
• 2481[19:50:38] <beeman> greycat: does someone experience any bugs running tiling window manager alongside WM/DE@XFCE?
• 2482[19:50:45] <greycat> *plonk*
• 2483[19:50:55] <beeman> I want to test these not sure if something will fucked
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• 2485[19:51:14] <greycat> replaced-url
• 2486[19:51:20] <petn-randall> beeman: That's a survey. If you want to get help, try explain what you did, what you expected, and what you got instead.
• 2487[19:51:20] <beeman> I want to test *window tiling manager*
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• 2490[19:51:32] <beeman> petn-randall: that's a question, youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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• 2492[19:51:44] <beeman> wtf
• 2493[19:51:47] <petn-randall> beeman: So try it and see?
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• 2496[19:51:58] <beeman> petn-randall: BUT IM ASKING BEFORE BREAKING MY SYSTEM
• 2497[19:52:11] <beeman> petn-randall: you don't have to reply to every question
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• 2499[19:52:36] <petn-randall> beeman: I'm just saying you won't get any answer the way you're posing the questions.
• 2500[19:52:44] <annadane> beeman, you won't break your system as long as you follow general principles, like
• 2501[19:52:46] <annadane> !dontbreakdebian
• 2502[19:52:46] <beeman> petn-randall: i dont need your help, thx
• 2503[19:52:47] <dpkg> it has been said that dont break debian is replaced-url
• 2504[19:52:56] <annadane> people do run window managers within xfce
• 2505[19:52:57] <petn-randall> beeman: good luck!
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• 2507[19:53:08] <annadane> *i* don't know how, i've never done it
• 2508[19:53:09] <beeman> and you are not even helping, fyi
• 2509[19:53:24] <annadane> if in doubt, ask reddit.com/r/unixporn
• 2510[19:53:28] <DammitJim> totally off topic but I don't know where else to ask
• 2511[19:53:30] <annadane> or uh, r/linuxquestions
• 2512[19:53:43] <DammitJim> I need to monitor my debian servers from outside my tiny data center
• 2513[19:53:55] <DammitJim> what do you guys recommend I use?
• 2514[19:54:07] <blackflow> beeman: long time ago I ran different DEs/WMs installed at once and yes there was leakage of configs between them. I can't remember what it was, and it was years ago.
• 2515[19:54:13] <DammitJim> and something could be using an online service where I install monitoring system I already own
• 2516[19:54:13] <petn-randall> DammitJim: Depends on what you want to monitor, and if you're willing to spend money on it.
• 2517[19:54:15] * beeman waiting for someone to write survey
• 2518[19:54:23] <DammitJim> no, don't want to spend much money
• 2519[19:54:32] <DammitJim> I just need to basically check if connectivity is there
• 2520[19:54:34] <annadane> beeman, or actually, what's more helpful than reddit is the mailing list. try asking debian-user@lists.debian.org, it's more debian focused
• 2521[19:54:35] <petn-randall> beeman: Try to keep the signal to noise ratio high in this channel.
• 2522[19:54:43] <blackflow> DammitJim: munin
• 2523[19:54:55] <petn-randall> DammitJim: pingdom if that's all you need.
• 2524[19:54:58] <beeman> petn-randall: sure survey man!!!!
• 2525[19:55:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o petn-randall
• 2526[19:55:03] <DammitJim> (in case there is a network failure and the monitoring systems internal to my datacenter can't send me updates)
• 2527[19:55:03] *** petn-randall sets mode: +q *!*@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mzhvalavrrycfsot
• 2528[19:55:03] *** petn-randall sets mode: -o petn-randall
• 2529[19:55:08] <DammitJim> pingdom?!
• 2530[19:55:09] <DammitJim> thanks
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• 2532[19:55:35] <petn-randall> beeman: I recommend you check your netiquette before asking in this channel again.
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• 2535[19:56:47] <blackflow> pingdom is nolonger free though
• 2536[19:57:02] <DammitJim> yeah
• 2537[19:57:15] <DammitJim> solarwinds... no wonder why it's not free ;)
• 2538[19:57:23] <blackflow> running things like munin, cacti or even nagios is best. I mean, _while_ you're at it, why not monitor all the aspects of it: cpu, memory, network, ....
• 2539[19:57:39] <DammitJim> is munin an online service?
• 2540[19:57:48] <blackflow> no it's a perl package you install
• 2541[19:57:54] <NetTerminalGene> when will debian buster freeze?
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• 2544[19:58:06] <DammitJim> I just need something to check my connetion from the outside
• 2545[19:58:22] <petn-randall> !wwbr
• 2546[19:58:22] <dpkg> Debian 10 "Buster" start the <freeze> process on 2019-01-12 and should release mid-2019. replaced-url
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• 2548[19:58:26] <petn-randall> NetTerminalGene: ^^^
• 2549[19:58:28] <blackflow> you can even run the master off of your laptop. it works like that, master contacts nodes, so when your laptop is on, it does the monitoring, when it's of it does not. OR set up a cheap VPS to monitor it 24/7 and email you alerts.
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• 2552[19:58:52] <NetTerminalGene> petn-randall, thanks
• 2553[19:59:05] <DammitJim> yeah, what would be a VPS that is cheap?
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• 2556[19:59:18] <greycat> All of them.
• 2557[19:59:20] <blackflow> DammitJim: you can even run Munin only locally on your computer. It has a multiping plugin which can ping your fleet every 5 minutes.
• 2558[19:59:47] <DammitJim> I already have something monitoring locally
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• 2560[20:00:41] <blackflow> then what kind of connectivity you want to test? between you and the DC or between many points on the planet and your DC? beacuse the latter is not gonna be free.
• 2561[20:00:42] <EdePopede> huh? is there a formula for "2019-01-12"? iirc the last time i asked about freeze dates the answer war something like "when it's ready"
• 2562[20:00:56] <greycat> It was announced by a human in an email.
• 2563[20:01:05] <greycat> The formula is "what it said in that email".
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• 2565[20:01:15] <blackflow> f(x) = when_its_ready(x); x = '2019-01-12'; that ok?
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• 2568[20:01:42] <petn-randall> EdePopede: The freeze dates have been set by the release team by a longer process, I assume. There's a transition freeze, a soft freeze and a hard freeze. Sometime after that will be a release, though that's still "when it's ready".
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• 2570[20:02:16] <EdePopede> ah then possibly i had been asking during the freeze
• 2571[20:02:17] <greycat> And "ready" is decided by the Release Manager.
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• 2574[20:02:30] <grady> hi, any idea how i can change audio file format from 3gp to something else a way that the file or the new file keep original file timestamps?
• 2575[20:02:32] <dutchfish> replaced-url
• 2576[20:02:54] <NetTerminalGene> i think it would have gnome 3.32
• 2577[20:03:01] <petn-randall> grady: Convert it, then set the ctime manually.
• 2578[20:03:19] <ashleyk> how do you setup two systems identically, yet one of them fails the if-pre-up.d/iptables script the other doesnt
• 2579[20:03:20] <petn-randall> grady: That's how I scripted it the last time when I was batch editing a bunch of photos.
• 2580[20:03:35] <ashleyk> everything is identical
• 2581[20:03:39] <SerajewelKS> grady: what petn-randall said. see "touch -r" in particular for an easy way to do this.
• 2582[20:03:41] <petn-randall> ashleyk: Is that a riddle or do you have an actual issue?
• 2583[20:03:53] <ashleyk> its an actual issue
• 2584[20:03:56] <grady> hmm
• 2585[20:04:11] <ashleyk> but no one can actually fix issues anymore
• 2586[20:04:12] <grady> no ready script anybody? no? ;)
• 2587[20:04:17] <annadane> NetTerminalGene, gnome 3.26 is the one current in sid and it's pretty close to freeze so unless gnome quickly releases a new version...
• 2588[20:04:18] <SerajewelKS> grady: "ffmpeg -i oldfile.3gp ... newfile.mp4 && touch -r oldfile.3gp newfile.mp4"
• 2589[20:04:25] <petn-randall> ashleyk: Can you show us the actual logs of the failure, along with the config files? You can use replaced-url
• 2590[20:04:27] <SerajewelKS> grady: it's a single command. a script is overkill.
• 2591[20:04:31] <grady> oh
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• 2593[20:04:59] <grady> but it isnt video even it is a 3gp.. so can that do audio too?
• 2594[20:05:16] <mentor> 3gp is just a container format
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• 2596[20:05:18] <ashleyk> petn-randall, there is no point, its a systemd problem. it was persistent across reboots, but it was fixed permenantly? on the one system by simply systemctl stop networking.service; systemctl start networking.service
• 2597[20:05:20] <grady> yep
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• 2600[20:05:33] <SerajewelKS> grady: "ffmpeg -i file.3gp" will tell you what streams it contains
• 2601[20:05:36] <ashleyk> so systemd losing track of...everything
• 2602[20:05:45] <DammitJim> uptrends looks interesting, petn-randall
• 2603[20:05:49] <DammitJim> thanks for your suggestion
• 2604[20:06:10] <grady> every day we learn something new :) thanks
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• 2606[20:06:35] <ashleyk> so stop start cleared out some non-existent error systemd thought it had
• 2607[20:06:38] <SerajewelKS> grady: if you just want to change the container, ffmpeg can remux assuming that the target container supports the audio and video codecs from the source
• 2608[20:07:12] <ashleyk> i love debugging non issues caused by non-deterministic software
• 2609[20:07:32] <mentor> ashleyk: Do you have a problem that you actually want to solve?
• 2610[20:07:33] <SerajewelKS> grady: e.g. "ffmpeg -i oldfile.3gp -codec copy newfile.mp4"
• 2611[20:07:42] <SerajewelKS> grady: but it's hard to say what you should do without knowing the problem you're trying to solve
• 2612[20:07:47] <petn-randall> ashleyk: If you can't show any actual data, we can't help you. It's likely not a systemd issue, I can promise you.
• 2613[20:07:52] <ashleyk> mentor, no one can solve systemd problems
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• 2615[20:08:20] <mentor> ashleyk: Right, then you are off-topic; please hold your tongue.
• 2616[20:08:24] <ashleyk> petn-randall, i can show you how the systems were identical
• 2617[20:08:30] <petn-randall> ashleyk: Again, an unproven claim.
• 2618[20:08:31] <SerajewelKS> all software is deterministic, you just may not be aware of the variables
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• 2620[20:08:48] <petn-randall> ashleyk: I'm not interested in that. I asked you to show us the logs of the failing system, with the config.
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• 2624[20:08:57] <grady> i use acr call recorder with oneplus3, it works only if it save the calls to 3gp format, in onedrive and google drive players, they cannot handle it, because they trying to find video from there. but vlc can play just the audio from there.
• 2625[20:08:57] <ashleyk> petn-randall, it said iptables-restore was failing on line 35
• 2626[20:08:58] <blackflow> systemd dependency graph is not deterministic, by design, tho'.
• 2627[20:09:04] <ashleyk> petn-randall, but it wasnt
• 2628[20:09:15] <petn-randall> ashleyk: I'm 100% sure the systems are not identical, you have different hardware.
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• 2630[20:09:28] <petn-randall> ashleyk: Post the actual logs please.
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• 2632[20:09:48] <SerajewelKS> ashleyk: on a hunch, does your iptables-restore input contain any hostnames? or just IP blocks?
• 2633[20:09:48] <grady> so i want change the format something proper audio format
• 2634[20:10:02] <ashleyk> SerajewelKS, just ip blocks
• 2635[20:10:10] <SerajewelKS> i've hit issues trying to restore iptables during boot when the dump contains hostnames, and the network isn't up yet. obviously you can't look up hostnames before the network is up.
• 2636[20:10:11] <petn-randall> I'm guessing it contains interface names, and they don't match up.
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• 2638[20:10:26] <SerajewelKS> i don't think iptables cares if the interfaces don't exist though
• 2639[20:10:28] <grady> but surely i want keep the date because these cloud services can use that to date the files
• 2640[20:10:56] <ashleyk> like i said, it kept saying Raise network interfaces failed, but everything was working, even across reboots it said itw as failing on line 35, but STOP then START got the error to go away forever
• 2641[20:11:00] <ashleyk> nothing else changed
• 2642[20:11:21] <SerajewelKS> ashleyk: if it said that then there should be a log somewhere with the iptables-restore output
• 2643[20:11:23] <vincent-> Hello. Could anyone help me with suspend and hibernate? I have posted in the forum but so far I got no replies: replaced-url
• 2644[20:12:03] <ashleyk> SerajewelKS, systemctl status networking.service dosnt show any error anymore
• 2645[20:12:09] <petn-randall> ashleyk: Why can't you show us the logs then?
• 2646[20:12:21] <SerajewelKS> grady: what codec does ffmpeg report the audio stream is?
• 2647[20:12:40] <ashleyk> petn-randall, i dont know where they are now that i fixed it
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• 2649[20:13:08] <grady> SerajewelKS: Stream #0:0(eng): Audio: amr_nb (samr / 0x726D6173), 8000 Hz, mono, flt, 12 kb/s (default)
• 2650[20:13:15] <blackflow> ashleyk: journalctl -n 100 -p warning..crit
• 2651[20:13:19] <SerajewelKS> ashleyk: the logs from the failure should still be available. journalctl -u networking.service
• 2652[20:13:27] <ashleyk> SerajewelKS, it was the COMMIT line
• 2653[20:13:39] <grady> so it is amr then
• 2654[20:13:41] <petn-randall> ashleyk: /var/log/daemon.log, or 'journalctl -u <failingservice>'.
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• 2656[20:13:48] <blackflow> it always is the commit line. can't debug it like that
• 2657[20:14:02] <SerajewelKS> grady: yeah i'm not familiar with that codec. so you'll probably have to transcode to something else. mp3, vorbis, opus... take your pick.
• 2658[20:14:25] <petn-randall> ashleyk: The channel's crystall ball is broken right now. So if you could kindly show us some actual data, we can actually help you.
• 2659[20:14:42] <blackflow> ashleyk: iptables-restore has -t flag for testing, that helps
• 2660[20:14:43] <ashleyk> i removed systemd
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• 2662[20:15:01] <petn-randall> ashleyk: Then how is it to blame?
• 2663[20:15:12] <SerajewelKS> ashleyk: there likely was a real problem here and it likely wasn't systemd at all. iptables-restore complaining about the commit line means that iptables-restore is what failed, not systemd.
• 2664[20:15:13] <ashleyk> i just removed it now
• 2665[20:15:23] <SerajewelKS> systemd just correctly reported the failure
• 2666[20:15:26] <ashleyk> SerajewelKS, but it didnt fail
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• 2668[20:15:28] <petn-randall> ashleyk: It won't fix your issue.
• 2669[20:15:40] <SerajewelKS> ashleyk: but it did
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• 2671[20:15:47] <SerajewelKS> it may have been retried and succeeded the second time
• 2672[20:15:51] <ashleyk> SerajewelKS, the iptables rules were active after rebooting but it still said it failed, doing stop start made it stop sayign it failed
• 2673[20:16:02] <petn-randall> ashleyk: Ok, one last time. SHOW us actual data. Or we can't help you. Show us the failing iptables config.
• 2674[20:16:09] <SerajewelKS> but it failed at least once, or you wouldn't have an error about the commit. systemd isn't going to fabricate process-specific error messages.
• 2675[20:16:17] <SerajewelKS> systemd didn't come up with the error about "commit" all by itself
• 2676[20:16:22] <ashleyk> it was a systemd error, the iptables was fine, i ran it manually
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• 2678[20:16:36] <mvaenskae> got the buster installer working; remove the options "vga=788 quiet ---" and add "nomodeset nouveau.blacklist=yes"
• 2679[20:16:41] <mvaenskae> that shouldn't be...
• 2680[20:16:44] <petn-randall> ashleyk: Sounds like you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
• 2681[20:17:01] <SerajewelKS> ashleyk: believe what you want, i'm done trying to help. if you aren't going to apply logic to this troubleshooting process then we can't help you.
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• 2683[20:17:08] <blackflow> ashleyk: sounds like boot dependency/ordering issue, I saw that a few times.
• 2684[20:17:11] <petn-randall> ashleyk: Kindly reboot, acknowledge it didn't fix the issue, then show us the actual data.
• 2685[20:17:25] <ashleyk> yeah well i md5sum the firewall.conf, the iptables in if-pre-up.d, and checked executability on the if-pre-up.d script
• 2686[20:17:27] <ashleyk> all matched
• 2687[20:17:32] <ashleyk> just one system was saying it failed, but it didnt
• 2688[20:17:35] <SerajewelKS> that's irrelevant
• 2689[20:17:37] <petn-randall> ashleyk: Still irrelevant.
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• 2691[20:17:58] <petn-randall> ashleyk: Last warning. Can you show us the iptables or not?
• 2692[20:18:25] <mentor> This is becoming rather unconstructive, and their are others that need help.
• 2693[20:18:28] <ashleyk> ok, well it confuses me too, which is why i asked how two identical systems can have one REPORT A FAKE FAILURE, across reboots until you stop start, then its all fixed for good
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• 2698[20:19:16] <petn-randall> ashleyk: And we told you why you need to stop talking, and show us the ACTUAL DATA. Come back when you're willing to provide that, and stop wasting everyone's time.
• 2699[20:20:05] <dutchfish> ashleyk, this could be anything, an adapter not bound, a driver that chokes on load, assuming the hardware is not the same. Your logs should tell.
• 2700[20:20:16] <SerajewelKS> ashleyk left the channel already
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• 2721[20:28:01] <mvaenskae> actually repeating the same command line results in a non-working installer... *sigh*
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• 2724[20:29:11] <mentor> mvaenskae: Are you running the text or graphical installer?
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• 2727[20:32:19] <mvaenskae> mentor: using buster-di-alpha3 disregarding whether i use the expert installer or the default selections for graphical and non-graphical; my gpu is set to hybrid graphics on per default and my fan is just spinning up rather... strongly
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• 2733[20:33:30] <mvaenskae> mentor: using buster-di-alpha3 disregarding whether i use the expert installer or the default selections for graphical and non-graphical; my gpu is set to hybrid graphics on per default and my fan is just spinning up rather... strongly
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• 2736[20:34:25] <kiteless> Hi. I'm trying to find a work-around for the following bug: replaced-url
• 2737[20:34:26] <judd> Bug replaced-url
• 2738[20:34:39] <kiteless> I've found that when imaging a host, if I `echo 1000 > /proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_max` I can throttle the raid sync and greatly speed up package installs. But I have thus far only been able to do this manually. I'm trying to find a way of setting this value early enough in preseed that it applies throughout the bulk of the package installs
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• 2743[20:37:14] <kiteless> If anyone here has insight into the best way to set a kernel parameter in preseed, I'd appreciate the advice. I've tried several approaches including attempting to set the value in /etc/sysctl.conf and echoing it directly into '/proc/sys/dev/raid/speed_limit_max' via preseed commands
• 2744[20:37:34] <kiteless> Nothing seems to work, though the manual approach does.
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• 2750[20:42:00] <mvaenskae> regarding the debian installer as well; how does one reuse a luks volume which holds an lvm configuration?
• 2751[20:42:57] <mvaenskae> if i were to use the manual option and click "configure encrypted volumes" does it format then the volume?
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• 2763[20:47:23] <hexhunter> can someone explain me why Kali is not supporting by default a resolution of 1920x1080 that is more ore less the most common of this universe?
• 2764[20:47:53] <jhutchins_wk> kali
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• 2766[20:48:00] <jhutchins_wk> !kali
• 2767[20:48:00] <dpkg> Kali Linux (replaced-url
• 2768[20:48:41] <kiteless> Is my question about preseed appropriate for this channel, or should I ask it somewhere else instead?
• 2769[20:49:11] <jhutchins_wk> kiteless: It's OK here.
• 2770[20:49:16] <jhutchins_wk> !preseed
• 2771[20:49:17] <dpkg> [preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process, to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The <install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding with a full example. See replaced-url
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• 2777[20:52:59] <kiteless> I'd like to throttle raid sync during preseed. Stretch package installations take around 2000 seconds where the equivalent set in Jessie takes ~300sec
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• 2779[20:53:34] <kiteless> This isn't a big deal for a single host or a handful, but if you're imaging hundreds, it gets to be a drag.
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• 2782[20:55:05] <kiteless> Has anyone had any luck setting a kernel parameter *during* preseed?
• 2783[20:55:43] <hexhunter> so debian support by default 1920x1080?
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• 2787[20:57:46] <akko> ~
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• 2799[21:00:45] <petn-randall> hexhunter: yes
• 2800[21:01:12] <petn-randall> hexhunter: If you can reproduce the issue on pure Debian, we could help you with that. But I'm guessing the issue does not happen on Debian.
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• 2803[21:03:12] <kiteless> Does anyone here have a good grasp of preseed in general? Maybe even if I can't get an answer for my specific question, I can get useful information that will help me test potential solutions
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• 2816[21:12:32] <hexhunter> all right thanks :)
• 2817[21:12:45] <hexhunter> ill try later on and let u know
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• 2823[21:15:50] <SerajewelKS> mvaenskae: "how does one reuse a luks volume which holds an lvm configuration?" <-- i believe with manual partitioning. there should be a way to unlock the luks volume, and from there the LVM should become available.
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• 2825[21:16:43] <grady> ok, how i can say ffmpeg to convert all *.3gp files to *.mp3? if i doing it now, it trying to make "*.mp3* file :)
• 2826[21:17:07] <SerajewelKS> grady: a shell for loop
• 2827[21:17:11] <greycat> You probably want a for loop.
• 2828[21:17:22] <grady> all hear
• 2829[21:17:25] <greycat> If you give us the command to convert ONE file, we can write the loop to convert all of them.
• 2830[21:17:43] <grady> *ear
• 2831[21:17:47] <SerajewelKS> grady: for i in *.3gp; do ffmpeg -i $i ... "$(basename $i .3gp).mp3"; done
• 2832[21:17:55] <greycat> Quotes are incorrect.
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• 2834[21:18:01] <SerajewelKS> assuming no spaces
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• 2836[21:18:13] <SerajewelKS> right. for spaces you want
• 2837[21:18:16] <greycat> With multimedia files, spaces are practically guaranteed.
• 2838[21:18:19] <grady> no spaces
• 2839[21:18:22] <SerajewelKS> grady: for i in *.3gp; do ffmpeg -i "$i" ... "$(basename "$i" .3gp).mp3"; done
• 2840[21:18:53] <SerajewelKS> ... is where your ffmpeg options do. e.g. -c:a mp3
• 2841[21:18:57] <SerajewelKS> go*
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• 2844[21:20:06] <SerajewelKS> if you want to preserve mtimes then you need to add the touch command to that loop as well
• 2845[21:20:28] <grady> ffmpeg -i *.3gp *.mp3 was how i trying it :) but best is if i can make a somekind of script, which can do this and with the "touch -r" and after all, then backup the original *.3gp files to some other directory :)
• 2846[21:21:39] <grady> backup means mv
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• 2848[21:22:44] <SerajewelKS> grady: something like this replaced-url
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• 2852[21:23:30] <grady> yes :)
• 2853[21:23:32] <grady> wow
• 2854[21:23:43] <greycat> Do you understand WHY ffmpeg -i *.3gp *.mp3 does not work?
• 2855[21:23:51] <grady> no
• 2856[21:24:03] <greycat> Who expands the *.3gp and when does this happen?
• 2857[21:24:11] <kiteless> Wildcard just autoexpands all of that in place.
• 2858[21:24:56] <grady> yes its kinda doing it right
• 2859[21:25:41] <greycat> The shell expands the wildcards (globs) before executing ffmpeg. ffmpeg sees the expanded list of filenames and has no idea what you actually typed. So, ffmpeg might see something like -i f1.3gp f2.3gp f7.mp3
• 2860[21:25:54] <greycat> Depending on what's already in the current directory.
• 2861[21:25:57] <grady> bash want to know little bit more
• 2862[21:26:07] <grady> or ffmpeg on this case
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• 2864[21:26:45] <greycat> By the way, in #bash we would've used "${i%.3gp}.mp3" instead of SerajewelKS's basename approach.
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• 2870[21:29:46] <grady> hmm
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• 2872[21:30:28] <greycat> (but the basename version is also correct; it's just a tiny bit less efficient)
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• 2874[21:31:10] <SerajewelKS> and the amount of time lost to that inefficiency is so much less than the time ffmpeg actually spends transcoding that it'll be negligible
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• 2876[21:35:42] <grady> oh
• 2877[21:35:45] <grady> :)
• 2878[21:36:17] <SerajewelKS> it's just the overhead of creating an extra process each loop
• 2879[21:38:53] <greycat> Anyway, the *important* part is understanding how glob expansion works, and why the loop is required.
• 2880[21:39:41] <SerajewelKS> and even if the glob expansion didn't cause problems, i don't think ffmpeg understands how to process multiple files
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• 2884[21:40:37] <grady> hmm, now i have one little problem, the mp3 what ffmpeg does if i give it just that file.mp3 (non any parameters) is too low quality
• 2885[21:41:01] <greycat> That's why you needed to come up with the correct command to convert ONE file before worrying about the loop.
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• 2888[21:42:44] <SerajewelKS> -b:a sets the audio bitrate. e.g. -b:a 320k
• 2889[21:43:00] <kiteless> Anyone here with insight into the preseed process?
• 2890[21:43:05] <SerajewelKS> or is it -a:b, i never can remember
• 2891[21:43:09] <m_g_lewis> Does Debian have an IRC server?
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• 2893[21:43:39] <greycat> Of its own? No. It just uses the existing OFTC and Freenode networks.
• 2894[21:43:58] <greycat> Or did you mean, "Is there an irc server packaged?" I'm sure there are several.
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• 2896[21:44:02] <m_g_lewis> greycat: OK, Thanks...
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• 2899[21:46:13] <annadane> isn't OFTC also named irc.debian.net?
• 2900[21:46:23] <greycat> !oftc
• 2901[21:46:23] <dpkg> OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. replaced-url
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• 2904[21:46:45] <greycat> irc.debian.org, not irc.debian.net
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• 2906[21:46:59] <greycat> irc.debian.org is an alias for irc.geo.oftc.net.
• 2907[21:47:12] <greycat> Host irc.debian.net not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
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• 2949[22:06:45] <mvaenskae> SerajewelKS: i for one always used anna-install and manually loaded in the required components which i think is a bit... cumbersome so i was wondering what else i could do
• 2950[22:07:01] <mvaenskae> not afraid of the terminal, it's rather much cleaner and precise than a GUI at times >.>
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• 2952[22:09:51] <grady> hey, thanks so much for everybody who helped me on this :) problem is solved \o/
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• 2958[22:12:18] <velix> Anyone into unpriv LXC? #lxcontainers is pretty dead. I've got some trouble with read/write of my shared-folder system between several unpriv-containers and the host. Would ACLs on the host be a solution? I've got a container for PHP, MySQL/MariaDB and NGINX.
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• 2963[22:15:40] <bitess> #lxcontainers isn't dead. there is a dev responding regularly, you just have to wait. replaced-url
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• 2971[22:22:21] <velix> bitess: thanks
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• 2973[22:24:04] <rant> mvaenskae: so precise you can do real damage with one small typo :P
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• 3076[23:52:28] <EdePopede> "at times" is the important part. btw, the Mother of all Demos will soon be reaching its 50th birthday.
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