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59[00:15:27] <Maws2> Any tips on getting high resolution
working with intel integrated graphics (2560x1600), only get option
of 1920x1200 as max.........
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60[00:15:34] <Maws2> (skylake)
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73[00:19:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> Maws2, do you have a suitable
display? What connector are you using?
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79[00:21:00] <Maws2> Eduard_Munteanu, on HDMI right now, on a
30" which have max 2560x1600
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83[00:21:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> Sounds alright.
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86[00:22:27] <Eduard_Munteanu> Maws, note that not all cards
can actually drive such a resolution
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87[00:22:29] <r6ku> Maws: get a newer kernel and intel driver
from backports
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88[00:22:49] <Maws> xrandr says max 1920x1200 for some reason
and I'm stuck on it
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91[00:23:43] <Maws> what's the name of the driver ? tried
to install xserver-xorg-video-intel
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93[00:24:02] <r6ku> yeah, that's the one
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94[00:24:09] <Maws> and I'm on a clean debian testing
install so should be latest kernel ?
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98[00:24:47] <markybob> Maws: no. clean install doesn't
have backports
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100[00:24:52] <Gargamel64> hi, I have a weird problem with
eclipse. the program is loaded, but can't display (and edit)
php files. i get exceptions of "Could not open the editor: The
editor class could not be instantiated. This usually indicates a
missing no-arg constructor or that the editor's class name was
mistyped in plugin.xml."
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104[00:26:41] <Maws> markybob, yea, but I'm on "debian
testing" shouldn't that be the same as using backports ?
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106[00:27:07] <markybob> Maws: no. and testing isn't
supported here per /topic. #debian-next on irc.oftc.net
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107[00:27:13] <themill> Maws: it's helpful if you let
people know that up front
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108[00:27:33] <themill> markybob: s/isn't supported here/is
better supported elsewhere/
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109[00:28:10] <markybob> themill: then fix the topic
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110[00:28:18] <Maws> themill: I did state it earlier on at
least......
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112[00:28:19] <themill> there's nothing wrong with the
topic
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114[00:28:45] <themill> Maws: sorry, I missed that
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116[00:29:16] <Maws> themill, no worries, I'l check in
debian-next
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117[00:29:17] <themill> Maws: there seems to be a move to go
away from the intel driver and use the built-in modesetting driver
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120[00:30:12] <Maws> themill, any way to tell what driver is
actually loaded on this system btw?
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121[00:30:22] <themill> Xorg.0.log
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124[00:31:50] <Maws> themill, hmmm, any tips on where that log
is located?
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125[00:31:57] <themill> /var/log
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129[00:32:56] <Maws> hmm, no xorg log there, so starting to
think I might have to do some xorg config somehow.......
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131[00:33:31] <Numan> good luck with that
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132[00:33:44] <themill> Maws: in stretch it might be
~/.local/share/xorg
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135[00:34:14] <Maws> themill, thnx it was :)
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139[00:35:24] <stacks88> some files may or may not have gotten
accidentally removed on my system over the network (long story), so
if i reboot it may not come back up or it might be fine. but is
there any way to check ? like i know theres debsums command, i ran
that and everything seemed fine. but any other way to verify the
"system integrity" so to speak, before i reboot ?
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164[00:44:14] <Maws> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Maws
vrrcqghqnign
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165[00:44:34] <themill> Maws: New UNIX password:
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167[00:44:48] <Maws> hehe, naaa, cut/paste :)
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168[00:45:15] <themill> All I saw here was ******** but you
might want to change that
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185[00:49:56] <Maws> themill, already done ;)
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186[00:50:00] <Maws> but thnx
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187[00:50:02] <Maws> lol
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234[01:02:47] <Bray90820> I am getting this error on ubuntu
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235[01:02:48] <Bray90820> Unable to create new logical volume
with no extents mount: special device /dev/server/data-snap does not
exist
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236[01:03:00] <Bray90820> Prob better to ask in ubuntu but i
thought would try here
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243[01:04:59] <sypher> Bray90820: It is better to ask in Ubuntu.
We don't support Ubuntu here.
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245[01:05:15] <Bray90820> Alright
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246[01:05:17] <Bray90820> Thanks
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init.d scripts. Currently there's '# Required-Start:
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312[01:33:26] <flp___> hi, I have a process that uses 100% of my
4cpu cores. I'd like to have some of that cpu time back and I
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313[01:34:31] <Sir_Designer> have you tried to "nice"
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322[01:38:40] <flp___> It's a rendering process and its
already running. I think I got it to work by `echo 0 >
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu3/online`
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325[01:39:00] <flp___> oh I forgot theres renice
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331[01:41:36] <ryouma> not finding anything definitive online.
is this error meaningful? "systemd-hostnamed[8584]: Warning:
nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might
make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!"
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335[01:44:03] <jim> I'm a little clueless here... I have a
machine that has a video. [8086:0412], and judd doesn't say
which driver to use... can someone find it or tell me how to find
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342[01:45:29] <jim> it's got debian jessie on it, not quite
finished configuring its net, but I can ssh to it from a machine on
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375[01:59:27] <jim> markybob, anyway thanks for the response...
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376[01:59:42] <jim> so no pressure, and again thanks
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378[02:01:28] <jim> right now trying to figure out how to get
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388[02:05:59] <tharkun> Good $DATE I tried dpkg-reconfigure
locales and it fails to swit to iso8859-1 this is a fresh install Is
there anyting I need to do or that I am missing?
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393[02:07:09] <Finetundra> ok so I need help and I need it bad
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394[02:07:25] <Finetundra> I've managed to revoke all non
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404[02:11:19] <tharkun> Finetundra: Define revoke all non root
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406[02:11:50] <Finetundra> tharkun: so nonroot users can't
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419[02:14:48] <tharkun> you need to fix the permissions chmod is
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438[02:23:57] <ZodoTurtle> Anyone here able to help with static
key openvpn setup?
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440[02:25:17] <ZodoTurtle> If I setup 2 of these. Do I need to
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454[02:31:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> ZodoTurtle, I think so, unless
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455[02:32:33] <Finetundra> tharkun: you're gonna have to
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457[02:32:46] <ZodoTurtle> I would use the same key, but one of
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458[02:32:50] <sypher> ZodoTurtle: static key should only be
used with a point to point. In fact, I think you can't do
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459[02:33:03] <Finetundra> tharkun: I don't have enough of
an idea of what I'm doing
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461[02:33:11] <ZodoTurtle> sypher: And can I do 2 point to point
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463[02:33:12] <sypher> ZodoTurtle: So, if you want multiple
clients connecting, you should configure a proper RSA key setup.
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464[02:33:30] <sypher> Finetundra: What did you do to break it
originally?
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465[02:33:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> ZodoTurtle, in that case I think
you can set up a multi-client server
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466[02:33:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> But a proper PKI is always
better.
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467[02:34:16] <ZodoTurtle> Yeah, also requires a LOT more work.
UGH.
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468[02:34:31] <Finetundra> sypher: I was fiddling with
permissions and I accidently made a change that started to lock out
standard users
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469[02:34:33] <sypher> ZodoTurtle: Only a few extra steps.
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472[02:34:42] <sypher> Finetundra: And what change was that?
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473[02:34:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> ZodoTurtle, it's quite
simple with easyrsa (the scripts OpenVPN recommend)
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474[02:35:02] <sypher> For a multi-client server, you require
having a PKI setup rather than shared-key only.
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476[02:35:26] <Finetundra> sypher: It was access permissions
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477[02:35:38] <tharkun> Finetundra: adduser someone
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478[02:35:42] <sypher> Finetundra: You seem to misunderstand the
question. What exact change did you make?
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479[02:35:55] <tharkun> look at how permissions wwhere assigned
and act accordingly
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480[02:36:00] <Finetundra> sypher: I don't remember the
exact field I changed
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485[02:37:06] <sypher> Finetundra: Then it's going to be
difficult for us to help you fix the problem.
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487[02:37:20] <Finetundra> sypher: yeah, I know
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492[02:39:07] <ZodoTurtle> So much for quick install.
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493[02:39:47] <sypher> ZodoTurtle: Multi-client VPNs aren't
a simple business.
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495[02:40:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> ZodoTurtle,
replaced-url
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496[02:40:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> ZodoTurtle, those scripts are
already there on Debian (if not, install easyrsa)
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497[02:40:43] <ZodoTurtle> yeah, whatever. Not like I want to
setup some massive business of 10 to 10000 clients. Just 2 or 3.
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501[02:41:25] <sypher> ZodoTurtle: Dude, cut the attitude. The
system doesn't care if its 2 clients or 1,000. Anything beyond
1 requires the same configuration.
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504[02:42:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> Really now, it's just 4
commands or so to set up a CA, server cert and 2 client certs.
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507[02:43:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> . vars; ./build-ca; ./build-dh;
./build-key-server; ./build-key; ./build-key
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508[02:43:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> ZodoTurtle, does the above look
terribly complex to you?
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509[02:43:58] <ZodoTurtle> It is more commands than that when
you consider you have to distribute all the files into the proper
locations. They don't magically put themselves in place.
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510[02:44:13] <ecom> I'm having problems getting a stable
wifi connection with network manager. Usually my speeds are 15 mbps
and now it is <10 kbps. It takes a very long time to even load
google. I restarted my router and all my other devices have the
normal speed of 15 mbps.
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512[02:44:21] <ZodoTurtle> but, I'll shut up.
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513[02:44:55] <sypher> Eduard_Munteanu: When he wants something
GUI-easy handed to him, yeah, it probably looks complex.
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524[02:48:56] <tharkun> Where can I get a list of the packages a
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526[02:49:18] <Eduard_Munteanu> ZodoTurtle, if you're not
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528[02:49:39] <Finetundra> alright, lets resolve this one
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529[02:49:40] <Finetundra> sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by
uid 0 and have the setuid bit set
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530[02:49:46] <Finetundra> can I get help with that?
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534[02:50:39] <Finetundra> I do have something logged as root
right now so
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540[02:51:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> Finetundra, chown root:root
/usr/bin/sudo; chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo
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547[02:53:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> Finetundra, actually make that
chmod 1755 /usr/bin/sudo to be sure
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552[02:54:37] <Finetundra> Eduard_Munteanu: now I have this
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553[02:54:41] <Finetundra> sudo: error in /etc/sudo.conf, line 0
while loading plugin `sudoers_policy'
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554[02:54:42] <Finetundra> sudo: /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so must
be owned by uid 0
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555[02:54:44] <Finetundra> sudo: fatal error, unable to load
plugins
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559[02:55:25] <markybob> Finetundra: you seemed to have fucked
things up in amazing ways. reinstall and use backups
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560[02:56:02] <Finetundra> ya know, that was somthing I was
trying to avoid
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562[02:56:25] <Finetundra> But if you see no other option than I
can go through with it
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564[02:56:58] <markybob> Finetundra: yes. that's my
opinion.
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565[02:57:15] * Finetundra sighs
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567[02:57:36] <Finetundra> First time around it was the disk
failing and now this
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571[02:58:19] <markybob> Finetundra: next time keep a log of
everything you do. without knowing exactly what you did makes
helping you difficult
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572[02:58:20] <dvs> But how did it "get to this"?
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573[02:58:33] <markybob> dvs: he doesn't remember what he
did
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574[02:58:55] <dvs> chmod -R 777 ?
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575[02:59:10] <Finetundra> dvs: what does that do?
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578[02:59:36] <dvs> Finetundra, turns on all permissions for a
file
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579[02:59:49] <markybob> and sub files
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582[02:59:59] <Finetundra> will that restore everything?
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585[03:00:14] <dvs> Finetundra, no that's a really bad
thing to do.
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589[03:01:07] <Finetundra> dvs: well, if I can get everything
working then I can set the proper permissions
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591[03:01:29] <Finetundra> so seing as I doubt this is getting
any less fucked I'm gonna try that command
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592[03:01:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> I wouldn't.
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593[03:01:47] <somiaj> umm I wouldn't.
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594[03:01:47] <Finetundra> Eduard_Munteanu: why?
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595[03:01:50] <dvs> Finetundra, setting the proper permissions
whould be very difficult for all files.
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601[03:02:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> It might even break stuff that
checks for proper permissions.
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602[03:02:23] <tharkun> like openssh
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603[03:02:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> Aside from potential security
issues.
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604[03:02:30] <Eduard_Munteanu> Yeah.
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609[03:04:01] <tharkun> Finetundra: you actually fubared your
system. Damn that is hard to do.
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611[03:04:22] <dvs> really?
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612[03:04:33] * dvs doesn't think it's hard to foober a
system
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613[03:05:13] <tharkun> dvs: I dare you do that on your machine
;P
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614[03:05:25] <dvs> ha!
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616[03:05:33] <dvs> Sure, I have backups!
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618[03:06:01] <Finetundra> tharkun: I don't know how I
should take that
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619[03:06:14] <Hermaeus-mora> yea stuff happens Finetundra
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620[03:06:41] <Hermaeus-mora> it seams like debian needs nicer
support people
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622[03:06:55] <tharkun> Finetundra: as a live lesson and laugh
about it. That is the nice thing about this. We get to break our
toys and then we get to fix them.
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623[03:07:07] <markybob> Hermaeus-mora: we're just telling
him the truth that it's fucked and we don't know where to
begin to help
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625[03:07:27] <Finetundra> markybob, tharkun I do appreciate
that you guys tried
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626[03:08:08] <Finetundra> well, time to grab what's left
from a live system
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633[03:10:11] <Hermaeus-mora> Finetundra: well looks like you
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664[03:23:37] <sigdk> kcachegrind : Depends: kde-runtime (>
4:4.10) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct
problems, you have held broken packages.
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665[03:23:41] <sigdk> some help with this ?
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667[03:24:01] <dvs> ,v kde-runtime
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669[03:24:01] <judd> Package: kde-runtime on amd64 -- wheezy:
4:4.8.4-2; jessie: 4:4.14.2-2; sid: 4:15.08.3-1+b1; stretch:
4:15.08.3-1+b1; experimental: 4:15.12.1-1
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670[03:24:57] <KINgGh0sT> I cannot get PulseAudio to recognise
my Analog Audio Connection it only seems to find SPDif and HDMI.
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673[03:25:55] <sigdk> dvs, ?
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674[03:26:13] <dvs> sigdk, you're not running wheezy or
jessie
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675[03:26:40] <sigdk> dvs, I don't know what I'm
running...
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676[03:26:56] <dvs> sigdk, then I cannot help
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678[03:27:36] <sigdk> I'm running jessie
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682[03:28:25] <sigdk> dvs, I'm running jessie
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688[03:29:00] <dvs> sigdk, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
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replaced-url
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695[03:30:51] <kiril> could you tell me what is needed to run
kde (plazma 5.5) ?
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696[03:31:02] <kiril> is it available in debian testing?
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697[03:31:03] <markybob> kiril: on jessie?
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701[03:31:52] <dvs> sigdk, "apt-cache policy
kde-runtime" should tell you what's available.
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702[03:32:09] <markybob> kiril: anyway no.
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703[03:32:14] <kiril> i saw that on jessie is..DebianJessie
contains the KDE Platform and Applications 4.14.0 and KDE Workspaces
(Plasma) 4.11.13
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704[03:32:35] <kiril> so no way..
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705[03:32:41] <markybob> kiril: debian sid has 4.4 something. no
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706[03:32:47] <markybob> 5.4*
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708[03:33:00] <kiril> 5.4 what?
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709[03:33:15] <sigdk> dvs,
replaced-url
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710[03:33:24] <markybob> i thought we were talking about plasma
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711[03:33:32] <sigdk> so can I install this ?
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712[03:34:18] <dvs> sigdk, you should be able to
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716[03:35:04] <sigdk> dvs, well, I get the same: kde-runtime :
Depends: phonon but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to
correct problems, you have held broken packages....
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717[03:35:31] <dvs> sigdk, That's why. You need to fix the
broken packages.
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718[03:35:43] <dvs> and they're held
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720[03:36:43] <sigdk> dvs, and how do I fix the dependences ?
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726[03:38:42] <dvs> sigdk, take the hold off of the broken
packages.
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732[03:40:03] <sigdk> dvs, dude... it's obvious there are
some dependencies broken. It was in my first paste... you don't
help me approach the problem
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733[03:40:06] <sigdk> anyway, thanks
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735[03:40:45] <dvs> sigdk, the dependencies are broken because
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736[03:42:10] <sigdk> dvs, thanks
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780[04:09:27] <Finetundra> does anyone have a link to
instrustions for installing a netgear wna1100 wireless card?
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781[04:10:55] <abrotman> !wna1100
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782[04:10:55] <dpkg> The Netgear WNA1100 "Wireless-N 150
USB Adapter" is an 802.11n device (USB ID 0846:9030). It
contains an Atheros AR9271 chipset; for device support on Debian
systems, ask me about <ath9k_htc>. Not to be confused with the
<wna1000>.
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783[04:11:06] <abrotman> Finetundra: /msg dpkg ath0k_htc
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784[04:11:10] <abrotman> Finetundra: /msg dpkg ath9k_htc
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785[04:11:15] <abrotman> damn typos
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798[04:22:44] <Finetundra> abrotman: thanks
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806[04:33:04] <Finetundra> and could someone also give me the
command for setting the default xsession? I think it's
something like sudo update --alternatives something like that
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809[04:34:14] <ecom> I was here earlier with a wifi issue, and I
found the root cause of my problem, but I'm not sure what to
do. Running nm-connection-editor shows "Wired connection
1" being connected at the same time as my wifi network.
I'm not connected to ethernet, so maybe that is why my wifi has
been so unstable. How do I make network manager stop reading that I
have an ethernet cable plugged in when i actually don't?
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811[04:35:59] <Finetundra> please disregard my previous question
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812[04:36:23] <ZodoTurtle> openvpn help?
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813[04:37:01] <ZodoTurtle> I can start the conenction using
openvpn client.conf. How do I get it to run as a service?
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815[04:37:28] <ZodoTurtle> service openvpn restart doesn't
appear to work.
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829[04:40:48] <jmcnaught> !openvpn enable
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830[04:40:48] <dpkg> From Debian 8 "Jessie" onwards,
to have an OpenVPN VPN connection started at boot time,
"systemctl enable openvpn@myvpn.service".
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832[04:41:11] <jmcnaught> ZodoTurtle: see ^^ and also check
/usr/share/doc/openvpn/README.Debian.gz
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842[04:45:55] <KANTOR> Can someone find out what I press to get
into the BIOS of the MSI Cubi?
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846[04:48:49] <abrotman> google can?
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847[04:49:22] <KANTOR> abrotman: NO it can't. Where's
the link?
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848[04:49:30] <ZodoTurtle> jmcnaught: okay. so, now how do I
know if there connected, and where they are connected?
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849[04:49:55] <ZodoTurtle> Who do I find their ip's? better
would be to define their IP's
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853[04:50:52] <jmcnaught> ZodoTurtle: i'm not really an
openvpn expert, but first i would try "systemctl status
openvpn@myvpn.service"
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857[04:52:32] <KANTOR> abrotman: You couldn't find it
either.
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860[04:53:29] <abrotman> KANTOR: I didn't try, it's
not related to Debian
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862[04:54:43] <KANTOR> abrotman: We're all running Debian
in here. That's a given. I just wanted to know how to get into
my BIOS.
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865[04:56:11] <RoyK> KANTOR: that's not related to the OS
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866[04:56:13] <ZodoTurtle> nevermind. I can find them assigned
at the server.
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867[04:57:12] <jmcnaught> KANTOR: check the manufacturer's
website for a user manual is what i would do. This is a Debian
specific tech support channel though, so this question would have
been better asked in ##hardware or some other channel
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877[05:01:44] <KANTOR> Just read the manual.
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878[05:01:47] <KANTOR> It doesn't say.
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880[05:02:14] <KANTOR> Why wouldn't they put the key
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896[05:15:56] <sypher> KANTOR: How does this relate to Debian,
at all?
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909[05:24:56] <ZodoTurtle> Okay. so, it is now 2.5 hours later
and FINALLY, I have that really easy about 5 commands working. some
hundret commands later?
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910[05:25:02] <ZodoTurtle> *hundred.
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916[05:30:30] <ZodoTurtle> so, Not that you will remember. but,
when I complain that somthing will be hard. It comes from
experience. I know, that I know what I'm doing and can tell
when something is not going to be so easy and simple.
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928[05:37:00] <factor1> Was trying to search for a method to
hold a package that is borken so I can instll other stuff. What was
the command to do this, the package is Google Chrome.
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929[05:37:05] <factor1> broken^
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930[05:37:24] <RoyK> bork!
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932[05:38:20] <factor1> So I dont have to remove the package
before installing a new random package on deiban.
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935[05:38:49] <RoyK> factor1: apt-get install -f
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937[05:38:53] <RoyK> should sort things out
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938[05:39:00] <factor1> that only removed the package.
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939[05:39:15] <factor1> I want to make the package transparent
to apt-get
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940[05:39:33] <RoyK> apt-get purge?
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941[05:40:16] <jmcnaught> factor1: if you have a third party
repo that is causing problems like this, it's probably best to
just remove it. in this case can you use chromium?
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942[05:40:43] <factor1> Open pilot also is causing the problem .
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944[05:40:53] <factor1> I need to hold two packages.
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945[05:41:12] <factor1> Im installing the bluethooth stuff so I
can access my quad copter via bluethooth.
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946[05:41:14] <themill> "hold" is not the right word.
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948[05:41:30] <factor1> But cant install the bluethooth stuff
becasue of broken package.s
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949[05:41:32] <themill> If you have broken dependencies, they
must be fixed
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952[05:41:48] <factor1> Ive held packages before and it works
fine.
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953[05:41:51] <jmcnaught> factor1: removing the package and then
reinstalling it won't lose any user data/config, that would be
stored in /home. If you won't remove the 3rd party repos now,
you should at least remove them next time you do a major release
upgrade (like to stretch for example)
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954[05:42:10] <factor1> Just a pain to do so.
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955[05:42:13] <themill> this has nothing to do with
"hold"
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1001[06:09:09] <poffs> how is debian planning to deal with the
issue of US government demanding repository signing keys, so that
they can push selected malicious updates to certain users/IP ranges?
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1003[06:09:22] <poffs> i just listened to obama's speech, so
that's why i'm asking
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1007[06:12:47] <well_laid_lawn> if you're worried just run
off a live cd
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1029[06:20:27] <shibly> If i correct the time on windows, I
can't get the top right clock at the correct time on debian,
why?
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1030[06:20:38] <shibly> How can i get correct time permanently?
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1032[06:20:58] <shibly> Why does time change?
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1036[06:21:50] <cast> why does time change, well that's a
bit of a big question
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1037[06:22:37] <cast> how does your debian clock lose time? is it
when the computer is off? is it after booting into windows and back
again? How much time do you lose?
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1039[06:23:28] <themill> shibly: is it just always out by a
certain number of hours?
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1041[06:24:36] <shibly> If i come from windows, time changes
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1042[06:24:43] <shibly> Time advanced 6 hours
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1046[06:25:36] <themill> shibly: what's the output of
"date --utc; date" on your machine?
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1048[06:26:10] <shibly> Sat Mar 12 05:25:06 UTC 2016
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1049[06:26:48] <shibly> I have changed the time from top right
clock settings
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1051[06:27:00] <themill> there should be two lines of output
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1052[06:27:45] <themill> anyway, the issue is most likely that
windows doesn't expect the hardware clock to be in UTC while
linux does.
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1053[06:27:46] <themill> !utc
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1054[06:27:46] <dpkg> Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) is the
standard by which the world regulates clocks and time (replaced-url
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1058[06:29:09] <shibly> I will not mess with utc, i will change
the time manually from top right clock settings
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1059[06:29:13] <shibly> Thank anyway
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1061[06:29:36] <shibly> I don't understand UTC time
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1062[06:29:43] <shibly> I understand the local time only
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1063[06:29:53] <dedgecumbe> shibly: come to the UK
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1064[06:30:01] <dedgecumbe> it is UTC here at the moment
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1065[06:30:03] <dedgecumbe> :D
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1069[06:31:27] <somiaj> shibly: then follow the factoid and let
debian know your hardware clock is using local time.
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1070[06:31:52] <shibly> Is UTC time same to all country?
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1071[06:32:06] <shibly>
replaced-url
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1072[06:32:15] <shibly> What do you see here:
replaced-url
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1074[06:32:35] <cunpetst> what is the command to list all of the
cd drives
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1075[06:32:39] <cunpetst> and hard drives
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1077[06:32:58] <cunpetst> I know lsusb lists all usb drives
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1078[06:33:14] <cunpetst> but I don't know which command
lists all of the hdd and cd drives
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1079[06:33:23] <somiaj> shibly: UTC time is not effected by time
zones. Debian by default uses this time and then when it displays
time shifts it by your timezone location. You have to change this
behavior if you want to use local time.
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1080[06:33:24] <themill> cunpetst: lshw is handy
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1082[06:33:49] <themill> shibly: you never did provide the output
of "date --utc; date"
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1083[06:34:02] <cunpetst> thanks
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1084[06:34:13] <cunpetst> what about accessing a cd drive?
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1085[06:34:40] <shibly>
replaced-url
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1086[06:34:43] <somiaj> cunpetst: usually if there is a cd in it
you can tell debian to mount it as any file system.
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1087[06:35:03] <somiaj> shibly: we will see the same time, as UTC
is not effected by location.
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1089[06:35:25] <shibly> somiaj: Can you mention the time you are
seeing currently there?
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1091[06:35:40] <themill> shibly: it is the same as you.
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1092[06:35:43] <somiaj> shibly: the same one you are seing a bit
past 5:30 am
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1093[06:36:01] <somiaj> shibly: you don't seem to be
listening to the advise you are being given.
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1095[06:36:22] <shibly> I'm seeing 5:36 AM there
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1098[06:37:20] <themill> that would be what "the same"
means, yes.
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1099[06:37:21] <shibly> dedgecumbe: Are you from UK?
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1104[06:38:18] <shibly> somiaj: Why did i see 6 minutes faster
than you?
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1107[06:38:38] <themill> shibly: you don't.
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1112[06:40:25] <themill> shibly: I've run out of ways of
explaining this. It's the same. For everyone.
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1113[06:40:37] <shibly> Ok
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1114[06:40:50] <shibly> But what are you seeing there?
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1115[06:41:22] <themill> Is there some other language you'd
rather seek help in? We don't seem to be doing very well at
helping you.
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1119[06:43:22] <shibly> bash: lshw: command not found , why?
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1121[06:43:28] <somiaj> shibly: you didn't. UTC time is not
dependent on location
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1123[06:44:26] <somiaj> shibly: but this is not the issue nor
your question. You have a choice, tell debian to use UTC time or
LOCAL time for your hardware clock. In both cases if you have your
timezone correct, debian will display the correct local time [though
if as mentioned you dual boot with windows your hardware clock may
not agree with the debian setting]
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1124[06:44:34] <somiaj> shibly: install the package lshw then
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1126[06:45:40] <themill> shibly: you never showed us the output
of "date".
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1127[06:46:16] <shibly> themill: date shows my local time, i
don't want to reveal this here
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1128[06:46:34] <themill> Good luck
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1133[06:48:00] <dedgecumbe_> the hacks
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1134[06:48:06] <dedgecumbe_> CTCP reply from shibly: TIME Sat Mar
12 11:47:49 2016
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1137[06:49:11] <themill> Yeah, well, I already had it localised
to that approximate longitude... I just hoped to have the right TZ
designator there.
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1225[08:04:30] <MaBunny> is there an irc chan for Crossfire Game?
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1259[08:35:55] <bluefive> HELLO.
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1260[08:35:57] <bluefive> Is my CPU going to run hotter if I have
enabled home folder ecryptfs encryption?
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1265[08:38:51] <AngeFede> bluefive, of course
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1266[08:39:16] <AngeFede> encrypting needs the CPU working to
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1267[08:39:37] <bluefive> But is it significant if the CPU has
AES-NI?
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1370[09:40:12] <dfcnvt> I took a screenshot by using a hotkey:
(Shift + Print Scr) I selected the area and it automatically took a
screenshot and saved the file directly to the home directory. Yet, I
don't see the window with an option for 'Copy to
Clipboard'...How do I fix this?
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1374[09:41:00] <dfcnvt> I'm on Debian 8 with a desktop
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1375[09:41:14] <dfcnvt> Could Cinnamon be the problem and only
gnome can do the job?
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1395[09:50:23] <hurdos> Hello
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1396[09:50:41] <dfcnvt> Hello...
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1397[09:50:48] <hurdos> Does someone build php7 deb package?
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1398[09:51:01] <dfcnvt> I think everyone's sleeping since we
may be mostly in United State.
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1399[09:51:07] <hurdos> How to disable extra exts?
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1402[09:51:59] <dfcnvt> hurdos: Just a wild guess. I think you
can hand-select which php you would like to install.
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1405[09:52:10] <hurdos> it happens :)
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1409[09:53:15] <dfcnvt> Let me see if I can help. I'll
research a bit and get back to you.
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1412[09:53:38] <hurdos> I need rebuild php7 with ZTS but I got
error related something with apache ext :(
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1419[09:55:28] <dfcnvt> Look like the answer is 'no'
when it comes to disabling the extension in php.
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1421[09:56:03] <dfcnvt> Huh, okay. Maybe you need to add?
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1427[09:57:05] <dfcnvt> hurdos: Try.... sudo apt-get install
libapache2-mod-php5
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1428[09:57:16] <dfcnvt> But that's php5 and not php7... :\
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1431[09:57:27] <zamuro> Just a wild guess... Is there even a
apache-php7 module?
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1432[09:57:29] <hurdos> yep
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1434[09:57:52] <zamuro> Oh, nice.
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1436[09:58:08] <zamuro> Well... at least for php people.
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1437[09:58:24] <hurdos> zamuro: nope, I said "yep" on
prev msg :)
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1438[09:58:27] <dfcnvt> Yea, I think you'll have a higher
chance of getting answers from #php
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1439[09:58:47] <TomTomTosch> hurdos, are you on stretch or sid?
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1442[09:59:30] <TomTomTosch> and i disagree that we are mostly
american :P
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1444[09:59:45] <hurdos> I'm on deb8 but I added dotdeb repo
that provides php7 package
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1449[10:01:54] <TomTomTosch> then try contacting them. this is a
third-party issue. may have better luck asking them directly.
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1455[10:03:01] <zamuro> hurdos: Oh! Well, that's unfortunate
then.
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1456[10:03:11] <hurdos> Is it possible change build rules to
disable building of apache ext? There is debian/rules
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1457[10:03:27] <zamuro> Of course, there's gotta be people
actively working on that.
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1460[10:04:42] <zamuro> hurdos: Yup. debian/rules has the options
for ./configure, so you might just as well not enabling the module.
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1468[10:05:48] <hurdos> I guess it is section with
"apache2_config"
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1469[10:06:13] <hurdos> but I do not understand how to turn off
it :)
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1471[10:07:13] <zamuro> My guess is COMMON_CONFIG
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1472[10:07:44] <hurdos> I did not see something of apache in
common_config
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1475[10:08:08] <zamuro> Yeah, I just saw it. There is an
apache_config.
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1477[10:08:30] <zamuro> So if you delete all that, you might get
rid of it.
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1481[10:08:54] <zamuro> Of course, you need to rebuild the
package.
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1483[10:09:08] <hurdos> yep, I will try
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1494[10:12:11] <cynthia__> I want to ask, is there a difference
between EFI and /boot? i'm having trouble configuring the
partition, trying to install Jessie on a fresh hard drive
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1500[10:15:07] <dfcnvt> cynthia__: Just recently, I've
installed debian two days ago. If I remember, you simply pick the
hard drive then there would be an options for partition, I think it
would be recommended to have all in one. After the change, you
should select the single branch of your selected hard drive.
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1501[10:15:29] <dfcnvt> note, I don't know much about EFI
& /boot in what you were referring to.
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1504[10:16:50] <cynthia__> dfcnvt: you didn't manually
change any of the sizes yourself? I have a 3TB hard drive and
i'm trying to partition it effectively and efficiently... i
want to have 1TB for home though i have 10GB for /, 8GB for swap and
the rest is kinda up in the air... /usr, /var, etc, ...not sure
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1506[10:20:00] <dfcnvt> I see. Sometime I don't know
what's best amount or optimization for each partition. Mine was
120 GB for the whole main Debian system. Any personal file was saved
to my external drive, 1 TB.
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1508[10:21:20] <dfcnvt> I'll leave it to people here helping
you out. Good luck.
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1509[10:21:39] <cynthia__> thanks dfcnvt
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1517[10:24:26] <rysiek|pl> well, the mdadm-based RAID1 partition
resize isn't going well
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1518[10:24:59] <rysiek|pl> sed s/resize/shrink/
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1523[10:26:49] <rysiek|pl> I have shrunk the filesystem on
/dev/md2 with resize2fs, then shrunk the array size with mdadm
--grow (to a size a bit larger than new filesystem size), then
removed one of the two partitions that are parts if the array with
mdadm --fail
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1525[10:27:50] <rysiek|pl> then shrunk (actually, deleted, added
new with smaller size) the partition on the physical drive with
fdisk (to a size yet a bit larger than the current array size)
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1527[10:28:22] <rysiek|pl> and tried adding it back to the array
with mdadm -a /dev/md2 /dev/sda3
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1529[10:28:35] <rysiek|pl> mdadm: Cannot open /dev/sda3: Device
or resource busy
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1530[10:29:30] <rysiek|pl> which is rather unsurprising, I guess,
since two other partitions on the sane drive are parts of different
arrays (md0, md1), and I git "Re-reading the partition table
failed.: Device or resource busy" when changing partitions with
fdisk on /dev/sda3
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1532[10:30:11] <rysiek|pl> the question now is: what to do about
that. reboot and hope? remove all partitions from all arrays, reload
the kernel partition table, and recreate the arrays?
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1539[10:31:31] <zamuro> rysiek|pl: The safest bet is to actually
drop the partition table and start over. But you might not want to
do that.
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1540[10:31:44] <rysiek|pl> zamuro: not really, no
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1541[10:31:50] <rysiek|pl> well, I do have backups
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1542[10:32:05] <rysiek|pl> and I am doing this on the testing
server to prep for the same stuff in production
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1543[10:32:38] <rysiek|pl> so what I want to have is a surefire
way to shrink an mdadm-managed partition-based RAID1 array without
losing data
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1544[10:33:26] <rysiek|pl> zamuro: this is what I was doing:
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1546[10:33:47] <zamuro> Wouldn't that bring a
misconfiguration of the array? Since partitions are actually set up
into the array and not into the physical drive.
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1547[10:33:58] <rysiek|pl> ?
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1548[10:34:32] <rysiek|pl> the arrays are partition-based. as in,
md2 is made up of /dev/sda3 and /dev/sdb3
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1549[10:34:51] <zamuro> Oh, I see.
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1553[10:35:13] <rysiek|pl> zamuro: so, my options are I guess:
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1558[10:36:08] <rysiek|pl> 1. mdadm /dev/md2 --remove /dev/sda3;
mdadm /dev/md2 --stop; mdadm /dev/md0 --stop; mdadm /dev/md1 --stop;
reload the partition table; start md2; add sda3 to it and see what
happens
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1559[10:36:12] <rysiek|pl> 2. reboot and hope
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1562[10:37:13] <zamuro> If deleting the partition table
altogether is not an option, that's the safest bet.
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1563[10:37:25] <rysiek|pl> 1. or 2.? ;)
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1566[10:37:31] <zamuro> But, if you do have backups, that
wouldn't be a problem.
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1568[10:37:42] <zamuro> The first one.
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1569[10:37:46] <rysiek|pl> aha
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1570[10:37:50] <rysiek|pl> okay, let's see :)
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1571[10:38:06] <zamuro> rebooting and crossing fingers usually
don't pay off
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1572[10:38:11] <rysiek|pl> zamuro: true
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1573[10:38:14] <zamuro> LOL
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1574[10:38:39] <rysiek|pl> zamuro: I am also guessing step 4.
instead of:
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1575[10:38:40] <rysiek|pl> mdadm /dev/md2 --fail /dev/sda3
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1577[10:38:42] <rysiek|pl> should be
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1578[10:39:07] <rysiek|pl> mdadm /dev/md2 --fail /dev/sda3
--remove /dev/sda3
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1579[10:39:36] <zamuro> First adding, then removing?
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1580[10:40:18] <rysiek|pl> no no
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1581[10:40:28] <rysiek|pl> actually removing, not just failing
the drive in the array
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1582[10:40:42] <zamuro> Oh, got it.
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1583[10:40:59] <rysiek|pl> also, "mdadm --stop /dev/md0;
mdadm --stop /dev/md1" should be there somewhere before doing
anything with md2 and partitions on /dev/sda
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1587[10:41:28] <rysiek|pl> okay, here goes nothing
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1594[10:44:32] <rysiek|pl> oook, recovery started on md2
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1595[10:44:37] <rysiek|pl> let's see how that goes
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1596[10:45:07] <rysiek|pl> ~3h to go
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1597[10:45:13] <zamuro> hahahah
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1598[10:45:15] <rysiek|pl> 1.7TiB :)
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1602[10:45:56] <rysiek|pl> maybe I should say "fsck it"
and just use the backups; the resize2fs shrink thing took ~20h on
this bad boy
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1615[10:55:07] <jim> I'm now trying to get my sound
working... it's on an asus z97k motherboard, it reports its
pciid to be [8086:0412], and judd says that's snd-hda-intel,
which I modprobed... I only get a s/pdif, any help here?
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1697[11:36:28] <Malinux> anyone knows how to boot an efi-shell?
Motherboard: GA-F2A78M-D3H
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1699[11:37:02] <Malinux> I have tried to boot a fat32-formatet
usb-stick with a /efi/boot foler containtg the shell64x.efi file
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1737[12:01:19] <atralheaven> hello, I restored grub after
installing windows and now I can boot to debian, but I don't
have windows listed on bootloader!
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1747[12:07:21] <bertrik> atralheaven: I have a similar problem,
but I can still boot windows by selecting a boot option in the bios
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1782[12:23:31] <cool06> hi all
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1784[12:23:50] <cool06> in my machine apt-get update git stucked
and its very slow
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1794[12:28:48] <atralheaven> bertrik: I had this problem before,
but after repairing there would be both windows and linux option to
select
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1971[13:53:01] <rszibele> Hello everyone. How can I contribute to
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replaced-url
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1972[13:53:23] <themill> Create an account and go for it
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1978[13:56:01] <rszibele> Oh, you have to create an account...
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1979[13:56:07] <rszibele> Thanks.
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2012[14:05:03] <fearnothing> even though it has rw-rw----
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2015[14:05:52] <fearnothing>
root@spaceball-1:/home/presidentskroob# sudo -u sneezed cat
/usr/local/sneezed/CA/private/sneezed.crt
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2016[14:05:52] <fearnothing> cat:
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2017[14:06:20] <fearnothing>
root@spaceball-1:/home/presidentskroob# ls -lah
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2018[14:06:20] <fearnothing> -rw-rw---- 1 sneezed sneezed 1.3K
Jun 27 2015 /usr/local/sneezed/CA/private/sneezed.crt
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2081[14:39:40] <dutchfish> rszibele, and
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2094[14:44:35] <rszibele> dutchfish: Thanks, I'll check that
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2115[14:51:47] <hurdos> I got the error
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2130[15:00:10] <aphorise> Is there any shell level utility such
as screen or tmux where I'd be able to give the same key
strokes to 2 or more seperate terminal areas?
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2134[15:00:47] <rgr> hurdos: did you correctly configure before
trying to make? I dont know that particular package's build
reqs though. Out of curiosity why are you compiling it?
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2137[15:01:51] <hurdos> rgr: I built pure deb pkg before change
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2140[15:03:06] <hurdos> I added a few lines in debian/rules:
--enable-maintainer-zts --enable-pthreads
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2155[15:08:46] <Walakea> how stable should debian testing be?
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2160[15:10:08] <hurdos> I used custom deb repo to fetch php7 pkg
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2161[15:10:20] <abrotman> Walakea: Depends what you're
using, and the wind speed in Topeka
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2165[15:12:37] <Walakea> this reminds me i should probably take
my home folder to a separate partition
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2167[15:12:57] <migmolrod> hi
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2175[15:16:36] <rgr> Walakea : I use it for development. Never a
bother (these days). In days gone by BSOD was common enough when the
nvidia drivers etc might have changed the way they install. But
generally it's pretty rock.... more stable than Ubuntu at any
rate ;)
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2194[15:20:46] <Walakea> whose open-source drivers are generally
better, AMD or Nvidia?
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2196[15:21:38] <abrotman> AMD
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2197[15:21:59] <Plush-Teddy> Windows fanboys would say nVidia :P
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2200[15:22:44] <Walakea> i dont care much about performance
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2201[15:23:08] <Walakea> i want it to work without having to use
the proprietary crap
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2203[15:23:43] <r6ku> intel then? you can't use the radeon
driver without the non-free firmware blob
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2207[15:24:29] <happygilmoregent> why can't steam just be
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2209[15:25:08] <abrotman> Walakea: then yes, Intel, but they
don't make discrete cards anymore
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2216[15:26:39] <Walakea> what about the nvidia nouveau?
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2220[15:28:05] <abrotman> depends on your card
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2222[15:28:40] <Walakea> sadly i have 940 M
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2223[15:28:54] <abrotman> whatever that is
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2224[15:29:03] <Walakea> which probably means i will have to wait
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2225[15:29:13] <Walakea> nvidia
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2226[15:29:18] <Walakea> also intel
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2247[15:34:35] <r6ku> intel's new skylake cpus require
non-free firmware too, I really don't like how hardware
manufacturers have us by the balls, maybe in the future we will be
able to make our own hardware :p
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2256[15:37:53] <Walakea> is it true, that G/L is getting better
hardware support than before?
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2264[15:42:38] <Plush-Teddy> I'm glad that I built my new PC
with AMD only
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2296[15:58:07] <asding> hi guys I dunno why some time ago I
installed xserver-xorg-video-intel and I started having problem with
the miniDP of my notebook. Can I just remove it now? Should I
reconfigure xserver to use the "builtin modesetting"?
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2335[16:23:41] <Devastator> good evening, I was doing a
dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie and for some reason my screen is
locked after sometime idle but there is no password box for unlock,
screen just blinks when I move mouse pointer
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2336[16:24:07] <Devastator> I can see the clock at the top and my
username at the top of the screen
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2342[16:25:37] <Devastator> I think it's risk to reboot in
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2489[16:38:42] <asding> hi guys I dunno why some time ago I
installed xserver-xorg-video-intel and I started having problem with
the miniDP of my notebook. I tried to uninstall it and then I was
not able to login anymore (inserting pwd in the gdm3 login was not
letting me in)
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2495[16:40:13] <mtn> asding: do you have an intel video
card/chip?
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2497[16:41:19] <asding> mtn, yes, intel i5 and HD4400
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2498[16:41:38] <mtn> asding: so, a hybrid video laptop?
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2500[16:41:54] <asding> mtn, nope, just the integrated
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2503[16:42:22] <mtn> asding: anyway, you obviously need the intel
driver installed
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2507[16:42:48] <asding> mtn, do you suggest installing the one
from intel? I mean not from the repo
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2509[16:42:58] <mtn> asding: no
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2515[16:43:43] <asding> mtn, so I should stick with the
xserver-xorg-video-intel?
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2517[16:43:53] <mtn> asding: yes
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2527[16:46:50] <miesco> Hi my crontab isn't working. None of
my scripts are running and I am getting no emails. root is running
'cron -f'. What is the first step to fixing this?
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2531[16:47:42] <teraflops> Look at te logs.
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2533[16:47:45] <teraflops> Heh
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2541[16:49:59] <miesco> Okay its running. I guess
'notify-send' is just not working. Maybe it doesn't
know what DISPLAY
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2548[16:50:52] <asding> mtn, ok, I tried to plug the monitor via
dp now and it worked but then when detaching it I see just a black
login screen on my laptop and everything is freezed. So I need to do
a hard shutdown...
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2552[16:51:57] <karlpinc> miesco: Cron does not have much of an
environment. "man 5 crontab"
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2562[16:54:23] <miesco> karlpinc: Okay I got it working. I just
set `DISPLAY=:0` in my crontab
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2567[16:56:27] <asding> mtn, how can I collect some logs to see
what's going on?
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2570[16:57:04] <mtn> asding: the logs are in /var/log
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2571[16:57:05] <asding> same problem also when waking up from
suspend
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2573[16:57:36] <mtn> asding: with intel you might want to try a
newer kernel from backports, too
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2576[16:58:54] <asding> currently on 4.3.0-1
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2740[17:13:24] <migmolrod> hi guys. i have a question about
default shell
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2747[17:13:41] <migmolrod> i'm currently trying to follow
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2771[17:16:17] <migmolrod> and it states to add the contrib and
non-free repositories to sources.list. does this have security
implications? just licenses?
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2773[17:16:41] <markybob> migmolrod: no. just licenses.
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2774[17:16:49] <migmolrod> ok. thanks.
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2783[17:18:41] <migmolrod> i see, one of the reasons they say is
to install libapache2_mod_fastcgi. and there is a 'free'
version called libapache2_mod_fcgid. any experiences with them? some
people say fastcgi is faster than fcgid. others say the contrary....
quite confusing
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2785[17:18:49] <lichenx1> does anyone know why after a reboot
virtualbox doesn't work until I run "/sbin/rcvboxdrv
setup" ?
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2787[17:19:04] <lichenx1> is there a way to make this permanent?
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2794[17:20:51] <karlpinc> migmolrod: Is it really going to matter
is the real question. Do you have the traffic volume that makes you
care? If you do, you're probably better off going to nginx
anyway.
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2797[17:22:47] <migmolrod> it's not the traffic, but the vps
i'm going to use is quite basic in terms of resouces for now
(maybe if my main project goes well, i can go for a bigger one). i
would prefer apache2 just for the .htaccess support. afaik, there is
no equivalent to that in nginx, right?
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2799[17:23:26] <karlpinc> lichenx1: Adding something to rc.local
is the easy kludge. Better would be to make a systemd system unit
file. But both of those may well be the wrong way. The right way is
to figure out why you need to do that in the first place.
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2802[17:24:26] <lichenx1> the command does this "Trying to
register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMS "
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2803[17:25:06] <rszibele> Is anyone able to make anything out of
these boot messages:
replaced-url
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2804[17:25:24] <lichenx1> every time I run the command it solves
the issue and I can run virtualbox, but I've never had this
problem
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2805[17:26:01] <rszibele> The card works just fine on Windows 7
and 10.
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2806[17:26:10] <rszibele> So it's not defect.
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2809[17:27:49] <karlpinc> migmolrod: .htaccess sucks the wockus.
There's no good reason to use them. What are you really trying
to accomplish?
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2811[17:28:35] <migmolrod> using symfony2, a php framework that
has already its own .htaccess
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2813[17:28:43] <migmolrod> in pretty much every project
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2825[17:32:45] <karlpinc> migmolrod: I can't say much then.
I pretty much agree with
replaced-url
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2831[17:36:41] <migmolrod> well, tons of things happened since
2012 in php world. i have to agree with quite some points of the
article but others are just deprecated or inexistent/avoidable when
using mature and well developed frameworks like symfony2.
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2832[17:36:43] <migmolrod> plus i'm very comfortable with
the language. keeping good practices also help a lot.
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2833[17:36:45] <karlpinc> rszibele: What kernel are you running.
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2836[17:37:16] <karlpinc> migmolrod: It's not that good code
can't be written in php, agreed.
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2839[17:38:55] <rszibele> karlpinc: Linux debian 4.4.0-1-amd64 #1
SMP Debian 4.4.4-2 (2016-03-09) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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2843[17:40:18] <karlpinc> migmolrod: I do have to disagree about
mature frameworks and putting up with things. An counter example is
pylons/pyramid. Started in September, 2005. And has been without
clunkyness since. It's a matter of having been designed instead
of "just grown". But this is off topic. We can take it to
#debian-offtopic. (But can't say whether I'll really
chat.)
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2846[17:41:18] <karlpinc> rszibele: That looks like sid. Perhaps
you need support on #debian-next on irc.debian.org.
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2852[17:42:30] <rszibele> karlpinc: Thanks, I'll ask over
there as well.
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2857[17:44:22] <migmolrod> yep. with mature i meant frameworks
that are heavily focused on enterprise levels. i wasn't saying
mature = lot of time. i was more like mature = built under solid
principles and on the shoulders of giants
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2858[17:44:39] <migmolrod> but agree its kinda offtopic :D
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2880[17:51:07] <Devastator> ,kernels
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2881[17:51:08] <judd> Available kernel versions are:
experimental: 4.5.0-rc7-686-pae (4.5~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.4.0-1-686
(4.4.4-2); stretch: 4.3.0-1-686 (4.3.5-1); jessie-backports:
4.3.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.3.5-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae
(3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u4); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae
(3.16.7-ckt20-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae
(3.2.73-2+deb7u3)
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2882[17:51:18] <asding> Hi guys when I unplug my dp monitor I get
this message on my notebook monitor
"drm:intel_dp_start_link_train [i915]: ERROR failed to enable
link training" then "failed to start channel
equalization". Then there is no X... any clue? Is this related
to the driver in use? I am using xserver-xorg-driver-intel
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2888[17:53:36] <ecom> I'm getting the error "
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2892[17:54:31] <somiaj> asding: what desktop do you use? What are
you using to configure the second monintor?
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2896[17:55:08] <ecom> I'm getting the error "modprobe:
bad line 1: 1 tokens found, 2 needed" on boot. What does it
mean?
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2904[17:58:31] <asding> somiaj, I don't get it. Just gnome
shell settings manager
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2907[17:59:12] <somiaj> asding: just wondering, as there are lots
of different tools out there. If you go intot he settings and
disable the monintor before you unplug it do you have the same
issue?
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2908[17:59:23] <somiaj> i.e. wondering if the issue is with some
tool when it detects the monintor being unplugged
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2913[18:01:46] <asding> somiaj, ok I will try now (and then
reboot)
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2932[18:06:20] <asding> somiaj, ok, I can play with the settings
and no problem, just when I physically unplug the dp cable I get
that message and a freeze. So I have to manually switch the system
off
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2934[18:07:03] <somiaj> asding: after you manually turn it off,
and unplug it, the same?
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2936[18:07:16] <somiaj> so the issue is with the autodetecting of
it being unplugged while still being running.
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2941[18:08:42] <asding> somiaj, yeah, the same, I tried to switch
it off from the settings and then remove the cable -> same
results. tty console and the 2 lines of errors.
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2943[18:09:03] <asding> somiaj, I tell you that I've always
used this setup without any problem for the last 3 years
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2944[18:09:12] <asding> somiaj, just a week ago it all started
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2949[18:10:29] <asding> somiaj, and I think all this started
after I installed "firmware-linux-nonfree".
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2950[18:10:43] <somiaj> asding: what version of debian do you
run, what video card?
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2951[18:10:47] <somiaj> what video driver in x?
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2956[18:12:08] <asding> stretch, HD4400 integrated, driver=i915
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2960[18:13:21] <somiaj> Youc ould remove the firwmare package if
you think that is the issue, but I don't think the intel driver
uses any non-free firmware
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2961[18:13:33] <somiaj> it could also be a kernel upgrade or
another issue that arrose due to stretch is a moving target
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2963[18:14:16] <boubou> hey guys
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2964[18:14:17] <boubou> I setupped the dns on Godaddy to resolve
hide.my.ip.upsidehosting.com
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2965[18:14:29] <boubou> how can I set reverse-dns ? `(
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2970[18:15:12] <asding> somiaj, tried also with other two older
kernels, same story
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2972[18:15:31] <somiaj> asding: has the intel driver been updated
recentally?
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2973[18:15:38] <abrotman> boubou: a) not really a Debian questoin
b) do you own your netblock?
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2974[18:15:43] <somiaj> boubou: unless you have control of the ip
you may not be able to setup revese dns?
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2978[18:16:28] <boubou> I agree, its not a debian question but
you look very nice here
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2979[18:16:38] <boubou> so I guesed to ask here
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2981[18:16:59] <boubou> yes, I have control on this ip
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2982[18:17:15] <boubou> ohhhh, you just put on a light
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2983[18:17:17] <boubou> :)
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2984[18:17:27] <abrotman> boubou: you probably want #dns
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2986[18:18:17] <boubou> :)
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2987[18:18:33] <ArchDuke> Getting 'WARNING **: Configuring
'pkgsel' failed with error code 100' trying to
install debian stretch off a usb flashdrive
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2988[18:18:36] <asding> somiaj,
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2989[18:19:17] <ecom> I get "iwconfig command not
found" when running 'iwconfig'. I have the latest
version of wireless-tools and I'm on the netdev group. How do I
fix this?
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2992[18:19:48] <ecom> nevermind, you just run it in root
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2995[18:21:08] <somiaj> ecom: lots of system stuff is just not
available in the users path.
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3017[18:29:42] <marjinal1st> Is there any file for MAKEFLAGS
variable to be set default, in Jessie 8.3?
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3030[18:32:22] <asding> somiaj, should I try uninstalling
something?
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3034[18:34:10] <kotten> marjinal1st you could set it in your
.bashrc
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3038[18:35:42] <frikinz> .profile rather
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3039[18:35:44] <kotten> marjinal1st I hope I am nog lying to you
it could .profile but I am 99.999% sure that .bashrc is there and
that de f.e. there you have HISTSIZE=1000
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3040[18:35:45] <kotten> ok
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3041[18:35:50] <kotten> so...
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3042[18:35:52] <kotten> this is the...
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3043[18:35:54] <marjinal1st> kotten: I know I can set as env
variable. I'm asking that, is there file (in etc folder) that
has the default value for that env variable?
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3045[18:36:05] <kotten> 0.001....
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3046[18:36:33] <kotten> marjinal1st /etc/profile ?
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3047[18:36:44] <clbk> /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie
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3048[18:36:50] <clbk> i'm sorry
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3049[18:37:11] <kotten> marjinal1st aha
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3051[18:37:22] <kotten> for that specific variable
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3053[18:37:50] <kotten> marjinal1st not that I know of.. I think
that tends to be set by the program you are building
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3054[18:37:55] <somiaj> asding: I'm unsure. That can be a
problem with running testing is dealing with bugs that arise. I
would work on tracking down the issue and seeing if there are any
bugreports on it
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3059[18:38:41] <somiaj> man bash if you want to know the
difference between when to use .profile vs .bashrc (or just source
one from the other so they are both read in all cases)
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3061[18:38:59] <marjinal1st> kotten: I've seen that variable
in Arch build systems default configuration file, so that I just
wondered if Debian has default for it. Thanks anyway ;)
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3065[18:39:46] <somiaj> marjinal1st: afiak the build varaibles
are set int he debian/ directory of the source. Though I'm
unsure of any default place to set them.
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3075[18:42:02] <boubou> ./etc/ssh/sshd_config: line 71: Bad
configuration option: ServerAliveInterval
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3079[18:42:11] <boubou> huuu ?
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3085[18:43:07] <somiaj> boubou: man sshd_config and put the
correct option in the file. That option doesn't exist
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3086[18:43:07] <TomTomTosch> boubou, do you want us tu guess? :P
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3089[18:43:27] <boubou> no no, I just found it
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3092[18:43:31] <boubou> sorry for distrubing
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3093[18:43:45] <boubou> I thought I can add it in /etc/ssh/sshd
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3095[18:43:52] <boubou> I thought I can add it in
/etc/ssh/sshd_config*
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3096[18:43:53] <TomTomTosch> ah well. somiaj is good at guessing
anyway :P
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3098[18:44:17] <boubou> somiaj guess well YES
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3099[18:44:18] <boubou> ;)
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3100[18:44:29] * boubou poke somiaj!
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3101[18:44:32] <boubou> :)
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3103[18:45:17] <boubou> can I join #debian-next ?
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3105[18:45:34] <zykotick9> boubou: #debian-next is on OFTC, not
freenote...
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3106[18:45:50] <boubou> ohhhh
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3107[18:46:04] <boubou> there is a chan on freenode but its
invite only
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3108[18:46:05] <boubou> :(
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3109[18:46:13] <TomTomTosch> nope.
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3110[18:46:33] <boubou> [12:45:01] #debian-next unable to join
channel (invite only)
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3111[18:46:51] <clbk> hello everyone, while trying to upgrade to
testing i've and error about the sysvinit-utils package. Seems
it is releated to the sysv->systemd transition. any suggestions
or link? I've gooled about without any significant result
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3112[18:46:59] <abrotman> boubou: what does the topic say?
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3113[18:47:04] <abrotman> (in here)
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3114[18:47:09] <boubou> yes
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3115[18:47:15] <boubou> I saw that
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3116[18:47:20] <boubou> M. :(
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3118[18:47:48] <boubou> it also says you are op here
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3119[18:47:49] <boubou> ;)
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3121[18:47:50] <boubou>
abrotman!~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman
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3123[18:48:13] <TomTomTosch> i don't think that comes as a
suprise to him...
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3124[18:48:34] <boubou> tto me yes
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3125[18:48:36] <boubou> :P
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3127[18:48:47] <abrotman> brilliant ..
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3143[18:57:54] <marlinc> What is the channel for package
maintainers?
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3145[18:58:50] <TomTomTosch> marlinc, #debian-mentors on
irc.oftc.net
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3158[19:06:05] <Devastator> I remember there was a factoid about
creating a debian kernel package from kernel source, does anybody
remember the name of it?
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3164[19:11:25] <TomTomTosch> Devastator, or you can just look
into the kernel handbook. it's rather concise.
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3168[19:13:09] <Devastator> TomTomTosch right, does make
oldconfig get my current config in /boot?
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3174[19:16:04] <TomTomTosch> Devastator, no, i think you need to
copy that to ./.config first, but better ask an adult, i'm not
sure.
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3175[19:16:15] <Devastator> TomTomTosch thanks
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3206[19:28:36] <no_gravity> The menus in Libre Office open super
slow on my machine. Is there a way to debug why?
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3223[19:35:43] <cheetahw26> what's the best way to
troubleshoot a system crash? like when the box is completely
unresponsive, to even sysrq keys...
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3225[19:36:12] <cheetahw26> I read ubuntu has linux-crashdump,
but couldn't find that in packages
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3235[19:38:40] <dontknow> can i make natilus to open particular
directory when it opens?
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3285[19:56:57] <frikinz>
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3286[19:57:04] <frikinz> dontknow: ^
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3294[19:59:38] <dontknow> thanks frikinz
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3297[20:01:17] <r0ck_> hey ppl! love you! and debian!
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3298[20:01:47] * r0ck_ having troubles with mate-screenshot -a function
if debian mate environment doing are capture with keyboard shortcuts
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