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31[00:32:54] <rant> I'm making a systemd oneshot service
to start a detached screen session, how can I set what user that
session is running as?
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36[00:35:33] <rant> nm, I guess its just User= and Group= in
the [Service] section
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42[00:40:06] <rant> hmm well that was fail.. the systemd
service works, it started screen with irssi but failed to load the
bot in another screen window.
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47[00:41:59] * RoyK mutters something about tmux being a bit better
than screen
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48[00:42:38] <RoyK>
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52[00:43:30] <rant> yeah problem is I'd have to learn a
whole new program and really I'm happy with the features of
screen
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53[00:44:05] <RoyK> just remap ctrl+b to ctrl+a and it's
about the same ;)
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54[00:44:16] <rant> just thought doing "screen -t foo
foocmd\nscreen -t bar barcmd" in .screenrc would start it with
two windows foo and bar
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55[00:44:35] <rant> but it only started it with foo and not bar
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57[00:44:46] <RoyK>
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58[00:45:37] <RoyK> well, I've left my old friend screen
for tmux - screen is still sorry, I guess
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59[00:45:56] <rant> blah blah blah :P
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60[00:46:15] <RoyK> rant rant rant rant rant
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68[00:48:35] <rant> I guess technically I didnt phrase it in
the form of a question like jeopardy.. heh.. but you also
sidestepped my issue with a my program is better than yours :P
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69[00:49:20] <RoyK> no worries ;)
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70[00:49:30] <rant> oh, I'm worried ;)
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71[00:50:00] <rant> I'm workin a bit outside my comfort
zone already as it is..
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74[00:51:15] <rant>
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75[00:51:46] <rant> I've also setup the systemd service on
the server side to start a screen session to be nested in that mosh
session
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76[00:51:59] <rant> the only problem now seems to be getting
that server side screen session to start both irssi and the bot
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82[00:56:32] <rflec028> ...any reason to use screen over tmux?
(Avid tmux user.)
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83[00:56:47] <BCMM> rflec028: for terminal multiplexing, no
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84[00:56:51] <rant> none at all that I'm aware of other
than being old and stubborn
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85[00:57:01] <rant> tmux has more features
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86[00:57:09] <rflec028> Tmux is fantastic.
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87[00:57:14] <BCMM> rflec028: but screen does a bunch of
barely-related stuff to do with interacting with serial ports and so
forth
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88[00:57:14] <jelly> screen is older.
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89[00:57:24] <rflec028> Not an advantage
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91[00:57:28] <rflec028> Unless bragging
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92[00:57:56] <BCMM> bizarrely, screen is a full-fledged serial
client. that's gnu for you i guess.
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93[00:58:00] <RoyK> A collegue of mine said screen is better
for nested sessions
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94[00:58:17] <RoyK> might be true, but that's the only
thing I can think of
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95[00:58:20] <rflec028> "I like Vinyl and use Screen"
^^RoyK, that might be a good poing.
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96[00:58:30] <BCMM> but for the terminal multiplexing stuff
that people *actually use it for*, god no. use tmux.
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97[00:58:43] <jelly> there are very little reasons to go back
to screen. AFAIR it deals with sessions attached from multiple
terminals at the same time better, and it deals with terminal resize
a bit better.
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98[00:58:44] <rflec028> KK. No reason to change my ways.
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100[00:59:16] <gzcwnk> Hi I am trying to install roundcube
webmail on debian 9 but I want to use a remote mysql database I have
been unable to do this. a) any docs that work? b) how do I get the
maintainer toupdate database config that comes in the package to
allow for a remote database please?
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102[01:00:06] <gzcwnk> ie do I just raise a bug report?
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104[01:00:20] <ph88> how do i go back to the gnome default
alt-tab grouping ? it got messed up after installing/uninstalling
AtlernateTab gnome extension
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106[01:00:53] <rflec028> So... Any Debian Members in Ottawa that
I can sit down for coffee with?
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108[01:01:39] <rflec028> ph88: ^^Should go back automatically...
Try the tweak tool?
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109[01:01:52] <rant> rflec028: you may want to familiarize with
#debian-offtopic its our social channel, this is our support channel
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110[01:02:03] <rflec028> rant: Can do. Bye!
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111[01:02:04] <ph88> rflec028, what exactly in the tweak tool ?
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112[01:02:21] <rflec028> ph88 *Installs Gnome Really Fast*
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113[01:03:32] <rflec028> ...try turning it off and on again?
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114[01:03:44] <ph88> i did already a couple of times
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115[01:03:56] <rflec028>
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119[01:05:04] <rflec028> wow
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126[01:08:01] <ph88> somehow it's restored :|
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127[01:08:18] <ph88> only terminator doesn't group
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171[02:12:58] <galex-713> Why is it needed to be registred and
auth with services to join here now?
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172[02:13:28] <galex-713> Anyway, I was here to ask:
what’s the standard, proper way to install stuff for properly
cross-compiling stuff for, say, arm
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174[02:14:40] <galex-713> like I’d want, say libgrx2
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175[02:16:36] <maferv> what are the right repositories for
wheezy? I tried "deb
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177[02:17:48] <somiaj> galex-713: those who have choosen to
abuse the policy of not having a registered account here have caused
the change.
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178[02:18:22] <somiaj> galex-713: We would prefer to not have it
+r, but the spammers have been extra active lately, and +r keeps the
spam down a lot.
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179[02:18:36] <galex-713> somiaj: ah okay, sad thing :/
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180[02:18:38] <somiaj> maferv: wheezy I think is still on the
main mirrors.
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181[02:18:43] <galex-713> hope one day it’ll be fixed
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191[02:18:58] <somiaj> galex-713: last time I tried this, it was
only a few hours before I put it back.
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195[02:19:11] <dvs> holy! that was fast!
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196[02:19:47] <galex-713> somiaj: you know, I only wanted an
explanation, if it wasn’t that long ago it’s maybe not
necessary to bother you or maybe others with this for testing if
it’s fixed right now ^^
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198[02:20:21] <maferv> yes, you're right somiaj, I
didn't know it, I wonder how long it will last
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199[02:20:46] <bitess> maferv: end of may
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200[02:20:50] <somiaj> galex-713: haha, we at least prefer to
not have it, I didn't do it just cause you asked.
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201[02:20:53] <somiaj> !wheezy-lts
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202[02:20:53] <dpkg> Security support for Debian 7
"Wheezy" from the Debian Security Team ended on
2016-04-25. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures receive
additional long term support (LTS) via <wheezy/updates> until
2018-05-31. See
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203[02:21:05] <galex-713> yeah I guess :)
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204[02:21:06] <somiaj> maferv: sometimes after the support for
wheezy-lts ends I assume.
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206[02:22:00] <somiaj> galex-713: there are some setsup to cross
compile to arm using qemu
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207[02:22:17] <maferv> thanks
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208[02:22:40] <galex-713> qemu? don’t you only need
arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc and the right libs in some proper standard
prefix I don’t know yet?
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209[02:23:33] <somiaj> glebihan:
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210[02:23:39] <somiaj> glebihan: sorry bad tab completion
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211[02:24:04] <galex-713> you meant me?
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212[02:24:12] <somiaj> galex-713: ^^. I haven't doen this,
but I think this is the more standard way I have seen. You can just
emulate arm directly, and then run the build tools/envoriment in an
enumlated enviorment, like chroot
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213[02:24:14] <maferv> does anybody know what is the right way
to load a framebuffer driver for trident? I do it manually from
tty1, as root "modprobe tridentfb mode=1024x768-8", but
I'd like to load it automatically since start. I tried adding
this parameter to the linux options: video=tridentfb, it didn't
do anything
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215[02:26:01] <somiaj> maferv: framebuffers are kinda old, could
ti be you have some kms driver being used? Anyways, I think if you
wanted to do that, you may have to rebuild the initramfs to include
that in the initrd image, so it switches to that module
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216[02:26:11] <somiaj> maferv: I'm unsure on any of the
specifics of doing this though.
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217[02:26:22] <galex-713> somiaj: that’s interesting, yet
a little frustrating and disappointing to know that with dpkg you
can’t properly configure packages for another system without
chrooting
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218[02:26:35] <galex-713> yet in my case it’s for
sometimes when I can’t chroot
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219[02:26:37] <somiaj> galex-713: anyways, I think using
qemu-static you can basically build an arm chroot, and just build in
an arm enviorment.
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220[02:26:55] <galex-713> currently I *can* chroot, but
it’s a microsd card intended to be put in another system I can
eventually ssh to
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222[02:27:11] <galex-713> and it’s quite tiring to do all
the compilation steps through ssh
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223[02:27:21] <somiaj> galex-713: there maybe other ways, but I
think more and more qemu is being used for this, over building a
full cross compling tool chain. I also have not done this, so this
is only stuff I have seen in passing.
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224[02:27:36] <galex-713> somiaj: I already use qemu-static to
update the system when the foreign device board is unavailable :)
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225[02:28:20] <galex-713> somiaj: I know nodaways virtualization
does progress and such, but doesn’t that that slow down stuff,
at least more than necessary?
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226[02:29:31] <somiaj> galex-713: emulation on modern hardware
is probably fast enough it isn't to bad (even if it is all
software), though as I said unsure on the details. I personally
prefer building in clean chroots anyways, so this method always
looked more apepaling to me than building a full cross compile tool
chain
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227[02:30:02] <galex-713> I understand
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229[02:30:18] <galex-713> yet what I need is for when I
can’t chroot to it but can only ssh on it
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230[02:30:24] <maferv> somiaj, that's unfortunate, I know
nothing about kms drivers. I'm using this module, tridentfb,
which works perfectly. I'll just add a script to my first tty
to load this module
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233[02:30:52] <galex-713> and I wouldn’t like to be forced
to recompile a whole arm system to virtualize while I only need 2,
maybe 3 libs
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234[02:31:07] <galex-713> one of which is already installed in
its arm version (its default, seemingly)
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235[02:31:10] <somiaj> maferv: I'm unsure the best way to
make it load at boot. I think the /etc/modules fiel still works,
then in /etc/modeprobe.d you can add the resolution option to that
module to use.
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239[02:33:43] <somiaj> galex-713: have you read through
replaced-url
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242[02:38:44] <galex-713> mmh
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243[02:38:56] <galex-713> it seems to be mainly for packaged
software or compilers
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245[02:39:18] <galex-713> I already have the arm cross-compiler,
and the software I look for is not packaged by debian
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246[02:39:41] <galex-713> yet it is by some project based on
debian which has .deb and standard source for .deb (which I still
don’t understand)
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248[02:40:53] <somiaj> maybe others who know more about cross
compling can help. I have only skimmed the possiblity out of
coursoity, I have never attempted it
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250[02:42:13] <galex-713> I understand
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252[02:42:24] <galex-713> it also never interested me before now
I need it ^^
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268[03:03:18] <maferv> it works fine this somiaj, I just did
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306[03:38:19] <walterve> Hi folks, anyone here using yubikey +
gpg + pass + git + ssh?
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314[03:43:28] <zerocool> i am only using each of those
individually
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315[03:43:37] <zerocool> well idk about pass
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317[03:43:42] <zerocool> what's pass
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334[03:51:53] <annadane> walterve, if you have a specific
technical question it's best to just ask it
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335[03:51:58] <annadane> rather than ask one specific person
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337[03:55:08] <somiaj> well in this case taking a poll
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374[04:26:02] <hiexpo> well figured out the segmentation fault
error with powershell in debian solved
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377[04:28:30] <dvs> ,v powershell
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408[04:53:30] <chrios_> Anyone know when LXD is looking to be
released in debian? Debian 10?
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411[04:53:50] <chrios_> All i can find is the bugtracker notes
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412[04:55:20] <dvs> chrios_, it won't show up in stable
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507[05:15:26] <hiexpo> judd, its not in the repo's had to
add it
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powershell I know better it can create complete havoc
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636[05:59:02] <dvergurinn> hey guys, i'm in need of a way
to delete subguids due to attempting to get an linux container up
and running. would anyone know a good way to do this? i cound't
find much on googles
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668[06:12:20] <chicognu> I'm with a weird problem. On pure
terminal, into the login prompt, appers some characters, ^@, over
and over again, like if my keyboard have some short circuit, but on
gnome it does not appear, and xev don't show any key as been
pressed. Any one have a clue on how to fix that ?
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737[07:08:33] <smokeysea> Hello I am tring to systemctl service
which will automatically execute a script on boot.
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740[07:12:11] <smokeysea> This is the simiple test.service
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746[07:18:08] <smokeysea> Whenever I reboot the machine it does
execute a script but the correpsonding program doesn't persist.
Eg.
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792[07:55:53] <shtrb|laptop> Is there an equivalent in
VirtualBox on Debian to VirtualBox on windows idom for a network
device for all vms ? (tap device that should be auto created to hold
traffic just for vbox)
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811[08:12:43] <o11c_> What sources.list line is needed for
-dbgsym packages for security updates?
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812[08:13:12] <o11c_> I can see the package by browsing the
pool, but they aren't available form the standard line
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814[08:13:37] <o11c_> specifically, note the multiple versions
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815[08:14:41] <o11c_> 52.5.0esr-1~deb9u1 is in normal stable;
52.6.0esr-1~deb9u1 is in security
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890[09:01:41] <maret> hi , when using top how to reduce all
processes with same name under one item and sum up their resources?
I have few chromium processes and I want to know how much ram they
take in sum
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947[09:39:30] <bookworm> maret: `man top` and if you can't
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950[09:40:10] <bookworm> then you can write a pipeline/script
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951[09:40:40] <bookworm> or you can query the kernel info
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976[09:57:30] <`ajven> Hello, I am looking for help - got server
where need to configure static IP so I edited the file
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977[09:58:18] <skandix> `ajven: imgur link is 404
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981[10:01:21] <`ajven> I am sorry, fixed link -
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1002[10:13:49] <Ool> `ajven: not so easy to answer you with this
first caracter in your pseudo
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1003[10:14:10] <Ool> why did you comment auto enp0s16 ?
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1004[10:14:30] <`ajven> 0ol: it didnt want to restart network
service with that line
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1006[10:15:01] <Ool> restart ?
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1007[10:15:15] <`ajven> start / restart - yes
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1008[10:15:31] <Ool> and please use my nick without error like
this HL work
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1009[10:15:59] <Ool> without this line your NIC stay down
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1010[10:16:57] <`ajven> i was up it via ifup
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1068[11:03:28] <Iridos> Ool, maybe your nick is not so easy to
address with this first character :-}
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1077[11:12:21] <patterson> Oh. Not0
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1131[11:40:24] <Milo-> How does on uninstall this a package that
gives: "dpkg-query: error: --listfiles needs a valid package
name but 'gir1.2-ibus-1.0' is not: ambiguous package name
'gir1.2-ibus-1.0' with more than one installed
instance"
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1132[11:40:28] <Milo-> google has been most unhelpful -_-
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1134[11:41:09] <BanHammor> apt list --installed |grep gir1?
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1135[11:41:39] <Milo-> gir1.2-glib-2.0/testing,now 1.54.1-4 amd64
[installed,automatic AND gir1.2-ibus-1.0/testing,now 1.5.17-3 amd64
[installed
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1136[11:42:53] <BanHammor> can you use paste.debian.net in the
future? It's really hard to read this, and the devil is in the
details
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1137[11:43:41] <Milo->
replaced-url
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1138[11:44:06] <Milo-> I would have used a pastebin if it had
been longer than two lines
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1139[11:45:12] <BanHammor> hm, so that's weird. What command
lead you to that first error?
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1144[11:46:17] <Milo-> tried to install 64bit sdl2 packages,
which wanted to get rid of sdl2*:i386 packages.
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1145[11:46:24] <shtrb|laptop> Anyone have a clue what other than
modemmanger I should get to work with Huawei GSM stick modems ? It
is identified by the kernel , minicom show AT access, but
modemmanger / network manger does not allow me access - (getting
error "modem state 'failed'" in /var/log/syslog)
, When I try to connect to it using modemmanger modem is in state
"not connect yet" indefinitely
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1146[11:47:13] <Milo-> now every single apt install and apt
remove gives me the gir1.2-ibus conflict
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1239[12:23:01] <expert975> How can I allow non-root users to use
shutdown and reboot commands?
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1241[12:23:59] <NetTerminalGene> expert975, systemctl reboot
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1242[12:24:22] <expert975> Doesn't that require root?
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1243[12:24:27] <NetTerminalGene> no
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1248[12:26:44] <expert975> How can I allow the shutdown command?
I don't think my mom will remember the systemctl part
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1249[12:27:30] <Haohmaru> expert975 don't you have a
desktop?
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1253[12:30:51] <tobiasBora> Hello,
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1265[12:38:20] <expert975> Haohmaru: I'm using awesome
window manager
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1269[12:39:01] <Haohmaru> uhm so there's nothing like a
panel with a menu with logout/reboot/suspend/shutdown?
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1271[12:39:32] <expert975> Haohmaru: nope
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1273[12:39:53] <Haohmaru> o_O ... okay, sorry to interrupt
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1298[12:51:02] <sergey> Hello everyone! I would like to ask if
there is any IRC channel related to L2/L3 networking in debian.
Would be grateful for any help
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1306[12:54:22] <tommaso> sergey: afaik no. just ask here
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1308[12:55:41] <walterve> hio
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1314[13:04:46] <sergey> Is there any handsome and reliable way to
setup network interface parameters like MTU/speed/duplex and bridge
interfaces permanently from python. Using ifup/ifdown from
subprocess and changing /etc/network/interfaces and using preup/down
script with ethtool settings setup doesn't look good due to
multiple calls.And it also doesn't allow to add interfaces to
bridge. Otherwise, pynetlinux library provides the following
features, but it doesn't change inter
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1315[13:04:47] <sergey> faces permanently.
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1373[13:43:21] <rafalcpp> is debian good to build a multi cpu
cluster, to take eg 10 cores 8 cpu and see it as 80 cpu machine?
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1375[13:44:09] <jelly> rafalcpp: first choose the cluster
solution THEN choose the OS that supports it
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1377[13:44:58] <BCMM> ^ that. there's a bunch of different
things you *might* be doing here, so your question is arguably too
vague to answer
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1384[13:46:31] <rafalcpp> jelly: BCMM: the goal here is to buy
e.g. 10 of 8 core serwer, and set them up so that from pint of view
of a normal progrem it would look like 80 core system, so it can run
80 threads optimally
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1387[13:46:50] <jelly> rafalcpp: you can't do that from the
"point of normal program"
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1389[13:47:17] <jelly> rafalcpp: your program will have to work
with a (well known) distributed multiprocessing API
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1391[13:47:35] <rafalcpp> jelly: :/
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1393[13:48:13] <rafalcpp> are there any OSes then that could do
that?
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1394[13:48:33] <jelly> yes, OSes that use well known distributed
multiprocessing APIs :-)
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1398[13:49:01] <rafalcpp> jelly: but, on which that would be
transparent for the user program, and normal program would just see
it as such massive hardware thread machine
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1399[13:49:12] <BCMM> rafalcpp: generally in any kind of
massively parallel environment, you're running code
specifically written to take advantage of that environment
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1400[13:49:26] <jelly> rafalcpp: sadly that's not how HPC
works
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1401[13:49:30] <rafalcpp> (of course a good program could
optimize and allocate tasks to v-CPUs that are actually on same real
machine if they talk to eachother a lot)
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1402[13:49:38] <BCMM> rafalcpp: if you think about what you just
wrote at a low level, you can kind of see why it doesn't work
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1403[13:50:07] <rafalcpp> BCMM: I think about it on low level,
and I don't see any not solvable problem with that actually
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1406[13:50:32] <rafalcpp> other then, talking to other thread,
that happens to be on other physical machine, would be really slow,
so programs would benefit from taking that into account
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1408[13:51:03] <BCMM> rafalcpp: for example shared memory access
between nodes is inevitably going to be much slower than within a
node - sure you *could* just transparently fetch it for
applications, but the result would probably be much, much slower
than just running locally
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1409[13:51:06] <rafalcpp> inter-thread synchronizatin between you
and memory of v-cpu on other machine would be synced via network
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1415[13:52:53] <BCMM> fact is, the application needs to be aware
of which actions are fast and which are slow in such an environment
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1420[13:55:01] <rafalcpp> BCMM: aren't there APIs to query
NUMA layout, and find out which [virtual] CPU threads are fast for
me, or are local? which memory is local node?
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1423[13:55:24] <BCMM> how is that transparent?
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1429[13:57:16] <bitesss>
replaced-url
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1431[13:57:29] <bitesss> but certainly not with a normal debian
kernel. ^^
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1433[13:58:42] <BCMM> bitesss: do any of those run applications
compiled for regular gnu/linux?
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1434[13:58:56] <rafalcpp> BCMM: well it's an optimization.
To write code to make sure only long-term batch tasks are placed on
remote-cores, that's a possible modification
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1435[13:59:11] <bitesss> dunno, never tried it.
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1438[14:01:10] <bitesss> i guess the scheduler would keep
processes and their threads on one node. but what do i know.
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1465[14:23:57] <sine0> folks, when doing rsync, is it possible to
ssh the file but copying the directory structure, so for
/var/log/blah.log when it gets to the other machines backup folder
you see the var first
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1489[14:34:09] <kaisarOS-36401> /msg NickServ REGISTER K@isar
kkhan@relisource.com
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1490[14:34:24] <aedinius> ...
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1492[14:34:28] <sine0> REKT
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1493[14:34:35] <aedinius> Those spaces, man
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1494[14:35:08] <annadane> kaisarOS-36401, change your password,
and also i would say use a stronger password also
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1495[14:35:49] <aedinius> Also, and I hope this isn't the
case, change your other accounts if you use the same password
anywhere
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1500[14:37:05] <kaisarOS-36401> how to register my nick name with
free node
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1501[14:37:16] <kaisarOS-36401> ?
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1502[14:37:55] <annadane> like that but just don't put a
space between the start of your message and /
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1505[14:39:16] <kaisarOS-36401> where should i execute this
command
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1506[14:39:22] <kaisarOS-36401> ?
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1507[14:40:04] <kaisarOS-36401> It may be the wrong place where i
already executed
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1508[14:40:20] <annadane> yes, it is, because you sent it to the
whole channel and now everyone knows your password and email
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1510[14:41:04] <annadane> just typing /msg nickserv register blah
blah in the main window should be fine if you don't leave a
space but a safer option is to open a dialog window with nickserv
first and do it in there
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1514[14:43:08] <danieled> hi all
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1516[14:43:35] <danieled> I use stretch, set static ip. But if
modem reboot I change ip... whit?
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1517[14:43:43] <danieled> *why?
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1519[14:44:59] <sameerynho> hey folks, I can see several threads
for urxvtd under my systemd process. but there is no such service.
how can I get ride of that ?
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1558[15:03:31] <password2> hi
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1560[15:04:29] <password2> can someone help me with installing
drivers for my nvidia card? the nvidia installer is telling me to
close X , but I don't know how , i did try killall and service
stop gdm
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1563[15:06:31] <annadane> password2, are you installing the
nvidia drivers from the debian repository? that's the
recommended method
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1564[15:06:46] <annadane> it's not suggested to use
nvidia's installer
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1565[15:06:51] <password2> no I tried from nvidias site
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1566[15:06:55] <password2> ah ok
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1567[15:07:05] <password2> so just sudo apt0get install nvidia?
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1571[15:09:15] <password2> is its name nvidia-driver?
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1575[15:12:15] <password2> ok brb , rebooting
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1586[15:17:04] <password2> Hi my lightdm wont start now after
installing nvidia drivers :(
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1592[15:18:56] <annadane> possibly a result of half-installing or
installing the nvidia drivers using the nvidia installer and then
trying immediately to install from the debian repo
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1593[15:19:12] <annadane> not sure how to fix, but check
~/.Xsession-errors
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1598[15:21:17] <password2> Annadane the nvidia stuff never
installed
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1599[15:21:28] <password2> I think it messed up removing navau
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1600[15:22:07] <password2> Idk how you spell it
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1603[15:22:43] <annadane> did you apt remove anything?
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1605[15:23:17] <password2> No
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1606[15:24:01] <annadane> i will let somebody else answer then
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1608[15:25:07] <password2> Xsession error does not exist either
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1610[15:25:55] <BanHammor> okay, so. Did you blacklist nouveau?
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1620[15:27:48] <password2> Bamhammor , no but i did get a
conflicting driver warnjng about it and it said i should simply
reboot after installation finishes
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1625[15:29:31] <password2> Anything i can try , googling is a bit
hard
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1626[15:29:52] <towo^work> lspci | egrep -i
"vga|3d|display"
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1627[15:30:24] <towo^work> password2, and paste your Xorg.0.log
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1629[15:31:12] <password2> Idk how to paste from terminal
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1630[15:31:39] <towo^work> install and use pastebinit
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1636[15:34:07] <password2> Its not working right
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1637[15:34:31] <password2> It just returns
replaced-url
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1639[15:35:29] <towo^work> what exact are you doing?
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1640[15:35:47] <towo^work> the command would be lspci | egrep -i
"vga|3d|display" | pastebinit
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1641[15:35:56] <password2> i tried using pastebinit -i ./myfile
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1642[15:36:02] <towo^work> and pastebinit <
/path/to/Xorg.0.log
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1643[15:36:05] <password2> I also tried that
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1647[15:37:58] <darxmurf> good week-end, cheers folks !
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1651[15:40:40] <password2> Looks like im going to have a long one
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1652[15:42:31] <alkisg> password2, does this work? date | nc
termbin.com 9999
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1655[15:43:58] <noodlepie> Hiya guys!
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1659[15:46:29] <password2> Yes
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1663[15:47:10] <alkisg> password2, ok, then use that one when you
want to paste something
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1664[15:47:31] <password2> Ok termbin.com/gqfv
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1667[15:49:25] <Haohmaru> password2 you could've pasted that
one line here directly ;P~
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1668[15:49:43] <password2> You mean retyped?
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1669[15:49:49] <password2> Im on mobile
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1671[15:49:56] <Haohmaru> aww
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1672[15:50:13] <password2> lightdm is not starting up
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1673[15:50:25] <password2> So pc is not fully booting
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1674[15:50:32] <Haohmaru> nasty
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1675[15:50:53] <Haohmaru> i'm also using this barely-working
nvidia for kicad
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1676[15:51:01] <password2> Well yeah
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1678[15:51:11] <password2> Idk what to do
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1679[15:51:11] <Haohmaru> but i'm using the nouvua-whatever
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1686[15:53:10] <password2> I was using that , but it was not
playing with my new card , so i installed the
"reckomended" drivers
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1687[15:53:18] <password2> which fucked my system
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1690[15:54:33] <password2> Now i'm mashing random buttons to
see if i can revive it
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1700[15:56:46] <password2> Im trying nvidias driver now , seems
they atleast put in much more system checks
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1702[15:58:02] <annadane> i suggest not mashing random buttons
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1704[15:58:13] <annadane> your problem has a solution which
won't be found by randomly trying things
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1705[15:58:19] <annadane> why not get help from us?
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1707[15:58:34] <BanHammor> "nvidia's driver" being
the one from the website? good luck
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1709[15:58:55] <annadane> and as i said, that ^ isn't
recommended
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1710[15:59:08] <password2> Annadane well im here?
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1711[15:59:29] <password2> Doing nothing will be less helpfull
than trying random thibgs
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1712[15:59:50] <password2> Official driver did not unfudge things
though
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1713[15:59:55] <annadane> lspci | egrep -i
"vga|3d|display" | pastebinit is termbin.com/gqfv correct?
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1714[16:00:00] <annadane> er
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1716[16:00:07] <annadane> well then it wouldn't be in a
termbin >_>
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1720[16:00:43] <annadane> but yes, that appears to be the
information requested
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1724[16:01:02] <annadane> again, i'm not good with this kind
of thing but just wait until someone who knows better gets around to
answering
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1728[16:02:09] <password2> Well till then ill tryto fix things
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1732[16:03:30] <BanHammor> alright, so step one: remove the
"official" nvidia driver.
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1733[16:04:09] <password2> Ok , how?
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1735[16:05:00] <BanHammor> run the same script you ran while
installing it, but with --uninstall added
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1737[16:05:52] <password2> Ok running
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1738[16:06:04] <password2> Should i reboot agterwards?
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1741[16:07:12] <BanHammor> yeah
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1742[16:07:21] <password2> Ok rebooting now
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1745[16:08:04] <password2> Ok rebooted into terminal
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1746[16:08:54] <password2> Should i reinstall the drivers from
repo?
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1747[16:09:02] <BanHammor> yeah
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1748[16:09:10] <BanHammor> let's figure out what actually
goes wrong with them
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1751[16:09:36] <password2> Ok , its called nvidia-drivers ,
right?
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1753[16:10:16] <password2> The i assume reboot again?
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1755[16:10:35] <BanHammor> yes
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1756[16:11:36] <password2> I get possible missing firmware , but
its about rtl_nic , i think its a wifi dongle i tried to install
years ago
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1760[16:12:39] <password2> Ok I'm back where i was when
lightdm first failed it seems
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1763[16:14:15] <BCMM> password2: usually those would be rtlwifi
rather than rtl_nic
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1764[16:14:16] <password2>
replaced-url
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1766[16:14:41] <BCMM> password2: sure you don't have a wired
ethernet controller with a realtek chip?
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1768[16:15:04] <password2> Could be
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1769[16:15:28] <password2> Im using the ethernet connection
though
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1770[16:15:38] <password2> But i think thats besides my issue
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1771[16:15:49] <BCMM> yes, sorry for the distraction
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1774[16:16:14] <password2> Paste above is from systemctl status
lightdm.service
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1775[16:16:20] <password2> No issue
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1778[16:16:47] <annadane> it's called nvidia-driver
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1779[16:16:48] <password2> Anything i should pastebin , let me
know
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1782[16:17:05] <password2> yeah i saw it has no trailing s
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1783[16:17:17] <password2> Its installed now and i rebooted
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1794[16:20:36] <password2> What can i do next towo^work diagnose
the issue?
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1795[16:20:42] <password2> To*
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1796[16:21:14] <BanHammor> password2, pastebin
/var/log/Xorg.0.log?
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1799[16:21:27] <tw> password2: you've already looked at
/var/log/Xorg.0.log?
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1802[16:22:55] <password2>
replaced-url
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1803[16:23:09] <password2> Tw lol my amswer is at the end of the
url
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1808[16:25:56] <password2> Could it be just that my gfx card is
too new?
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1811[16:26:22] <password2> Well i dont hope so , ilmy old one is
dead
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1813[16:26:33] <password2> *my
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1816[16:27:36] <annadane> why don't you just paste
/var/log/Xorg.0.log as requested
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1820[16:28:52] <password2> i did paste it
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1821[16:28:54] <tw> it says check your kernel log for error
messages. I'm guessing it never loaded the nvidia kernel
module.
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1822[16:29:03] <password2> Or did i paste wrongly?
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1831[16:31:14] <password2> Annadane , its coincidence url endedin
nope
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1832[16:31:48] <password2> Tw how do i check?
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1833[16:31:50] <annadane> oh! haha
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1836[16:32:51] <tw> password2: should be /var/log/kern.log in a
fresh boot.
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1838[16:33:10] <password2> Should i paste /var/log/kern.log ?
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1839[16:33:20] <password2> Ok will do so
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1844[16:35:48] <password2>
replaced-url
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1848[16:38:48] <password2> Should i have an nvidia module
somewhere?
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1849[16:39:46] <somiaj> what do you mean? By default nvidia will
use the nouveau module. Did you install the non-free nvidia driver?
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1851[16:40:39] <password2> I did , then i removed it again
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1852[16:41:04] <password2> Somiaj how mich context do you have?
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1855[16:42:13] <somiaj> well you can't have nouveau and
nvidia running at the same time, and I see nouveau loaded there
(though you werew asked for the xorg log file, not dmesg)
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1856[16:42:25] <somiaj> anyways, you installed then removed the
nvidia moudle, well if you removed it, it won't be loading.
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1857[16:42:36] <somiaj> but I missed your actual issue.
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1858[16:43:09] <JustASlacker> whats the opinion on firewalld for
debian9?
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1859[16:43:11] <JustASlacker> yay or nay
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1860[16:43:12] <password2> i did give xorg log file
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1861[16:43:35] <password2> Lightdm is not starting after
installation of nvidia-driver
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1864[16:43:58] <somiaj> how did you install the nvidia-driver?
What nvidia card do you have?
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1867[16:45:22] <password2> Gt 1030 , installed using sudo apt-get
instaal nvidia-driver
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1873[16:46:34] <somiaj> password2: are you running stretch?
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1875[16:46:37] <somiaj> ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms
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1876[16:46:38] <judd> Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 --
wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free:
340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.102-1;
jessie-backports/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free:
375.82-1~deb9u1; stretch-backports/non-free: 384.111-3~bpo9+1;
buster/non-free: 384.111-4; sid/non-free: 384.111-4;
experimental/non-free: 390.25-1
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1878[16:47:24] <password2> Somiaj i *think* so , camt remember
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1879[16:47:26] <somiaj>
replaced-url
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1882[16:47:52] <jelly> which is why there are backports
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1883[16:47:58] <somiaj>
replaced-url
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1884[16:48:12] <somiaj> so I think it just your card is not
supported by the driver you installed, and you'll have to get
the version from stretch-backports to support that card.
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1885[16:48:34] <password2> Ok , how do i install from backports
again?
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1896[16:52:21] <password2> Ok i am on stretch
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1898[16:53:30] <jelly> !stretch-backports
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1899[16:53:30] <dpkg> Some packages intended for Buster (Debian
10) but recompiled for use with Stretch (Debian 9) can be found in
the stretch-backports repository. See
replaced-url
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1900[16:55:02] <password2> Must i install current version first?
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1904[16:56:02] <password2> I run sudo apt-get -t
stretch-backports but it did not update my driver
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1906[16:56:26] <jelly> that does not sound like a complete
command line
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1909[16:57:03] <jelly> !nvidia dkms
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1910[16:57:03] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later
systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>.
«aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed
's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section
"Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver
"nvidia"\nEndSection' >
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to
enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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1915[16:57:25] <jelly> do that, except add -t stretch-backports
when installing stuff
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1918[16:57:43] <password2> Sorry my attention went pear shaped
" sudo apt-get -t stretch-backports install nvidia-driver
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1920[16:57:53] <password2> It said 79 not upgraded
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1922[16:58:23] <jelly> I do not know whether "apt-get
install nvidia-driver" is enough to get things working. The
recipe above, however, should be.
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1923[16:58:53] <password2> Ok hang on its gonna take a while to
type that whole cmd
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1927[16:59:28] <jelly> uh, ssh into the machine and copy/paste
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1932[17:00:13] <jelly> or just copy/paste on the console (install
gpm to get mouse and copy/paste working in linux console if
you're logged in that way)
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1935[17:00:33] <password2> Its a bit of a loopy setup , cant
easily ssh in now
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1938[17:01:11] <password2> Hmm why is my system not finind
aptitude
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1944[17:02:54] <walterve> password2: what debian version do you
have?
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1946[17:03:14] <jelly> password2: install aptitude first, then
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1949[17:03:30] <jelly> it's not present on minimal
installations
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1957[17:04:46] <password2> Walterve stretch
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1961[17:04:56] <debfan> test
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1963[17:05:14] <Haohmaru> boooom!
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1964[17:05:25] <walterve> password2: I would recommend to use apt
instead of aptitude
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1965[17:05:31] <walterve> sudo apt install package
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1967[17:05:50] <debfan> hello. how would i suppress deb kernel
info from showing up on shell login? unrelated to /etc/motd and
/etc/issue but this thing Linux debian 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
4.9.82-1+deb9u2 (2018-02-21) x86_64
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1969[17:06:37] <debfan> walterve, but how about aptitude search
thing ? :)
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1971[17:06:50] <password2>
replaced-url
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1974[17:07:06] <jhutchins_wk> debfan: Why do you want to supress
it?
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1976[17:07:25] <password2> Urg , wget is saving raw html
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1977[17:07:27] <debfan> jhutchins_wk, i dont like it
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1978[17:07:52] <debfan> i know it doesnt like me as well
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1979[17:07:53] <somiaj> what sort of info is showing up? Usually
these are only sever errors, or you have removed quiet from
/etc/default/grub
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1980[17:08:00] <debfan> so why shall we both suffer
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1985[17:09:17] <debfan> password2, thats how wget works
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1986[17:09:24] <debfan> what else were u expecting?:)
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1987[17:09:30] <JustASlacker> anybody know where I could find a
debian package for python-firewalld
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1989[17:09:33] <password2> Idk
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1991[17:09:39] <somiaj> check out /etc/sysctl.conf and the
kernel.printk line it says to comment out to stop low level messages
from going to the console.
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1992[17:10:07] <debfan> somiaj, this thing
replaced-url
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1995[17:10:24] <debfan> thx ill follow ur advice now hope it
helps
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1996[17:10:28] <jelly> walterve: there's a reason why that
recipe uses aptitude, it's better at figuring out alternative
dependencies sometimes
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1998[17:10:57] <somiaj> debfan: oh that is something different,
that is not some kerenel error message.
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1999[17:11:10] <debfan> somiaj, printk is commented btw
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2000[17:11:18] <debfan> aha.
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2001[17:11:22] <password2> Sorry , its taking a while
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2003[17:11:32] <password2> Need to fix html formatting now
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2005[17:11:51] <somiaj> debfan: I really don't see why that
is apeparing, also why is it asking for roots password if you are
running as root?
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2018[17:12:56] <debfan> somiaj, i am running as root and feeling
perfectly fine about it as it's local unexposed dev machine and
i will never use root when i finish tweaking it of course
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2019[17:13:26] <somiaj> I mean I don't understand why
running nano /etc/issue would porduce the output you are showing
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2020[17:13:27] <Haohmaru> famous last words
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2021[17:13:43] <somiaj> I don't see why it would even ask
for a password, and then return some motd/issue of some sort.
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2023[17:13:52] <debfan> somiaj, man u overcomplicating
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2024[17:13:56] <password2> Well its running
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2025[17:13:58] <debfan> nano etc issue did not
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2026[17:14:01] <password2> The cmd
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2028[17:14:21] <debfan> i was using nano before.
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2030[17:14:35] <password2> Lets see if succeeds
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2036[17:16:00] <password2> Restart after running that cmd?
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2038[17:16:56] <somiaj> debfan: so then it is not clear from your
paste what is producing the output of uname -a when you
'login'
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2039[17:16:56] <jelly> yes
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2040[17:17:02] <jelly> password2: ^
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2042[17:17:10] <somiaj> debfan: at least to me.
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2043[17:17:17] <debfan> btw answering my own question, uname was
generated by /etc/update-motd.d/
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2044[17:17:19] <password2> I did , it booted to terminal directly
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2045[17:17:28] <password2> Did not moad about lightdm
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2046[17:17:46] <jelly> password2: pastebin your dmesg output.
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2047[17:18:05] <somiaj> ahh yea, it looked like some automatic
script giving that output, and not the kernel, but wasn't sure
exactly what you were doing to cause it.
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2048[17:18:07] <jelly> password2: did the kernel module build
successfully at installation time?
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2049[17:18:40] <debfan> somiaj, i was logging in to system :)
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2050[17:18:43] <password2>
replaced-url
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2051[17:18:46] <debfan> that ws the cause :)
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2052[17:18:53] <debfan> thx for ur efforts
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2053[17:18:58] <debfan> <3
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2054[17:19:22] <jelly> password2: nvidia kernel module loaded,
that's good.
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2055[17:20:02] <password2> Should i try starting lightdm?
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2056[17:20:06] <jelly> password2: however it looks like the old
version, that's not good
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2057[17:20:08] <jelly> [ 2.811761] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX
x86_64 Kernel Module 375.82 Wed Jul 19 21:16:49 PDT 2017 (using
threaded interrupts)
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2059[17:20:33] <password2> Awe :(
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2060[17:20:49] <JohnA> I am thinking of running 2 LVMs on my
server 1 for the System stuff (root/var/usr home ...) and 1 for the
thinks like mail/web pages/... Any thoughts on the advisability of
this ?
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2061[17:21:24] <password2> We want 390 , right?
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2066[17:23:39] <password2> I'm an idiot
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2067[17:23:43] <jelly> password2: which versions of nvidia stuff
are installed? aptitude -F'%20V %p' search '~i
?source-package(nvidia-graphics-drivers)'
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2068[17:23:49] <password2> I did not edit it!
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2072[17:24:52] <jelly> password2: redo just the install
nvidia-kernel-dkms part, no need to create files in xorg.conf.d
again or install headers
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2073[17:25:42] <jelly> (also you're using an outdated
kernel. You'll probably want to run aptitude full-upgrade or
apt full-upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade at some point
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2074[17:26:23] <somiaj> if using an outdated kernel, could it be
the headers are for the new kernel (not the old one) and thus the
module isn't being built for the kernel being used?
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2075[17:26:34] <password2> What part?
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2076[17:26:52] <jelly> !nvidia dkms
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2077[17:26:53] <dpkg> For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later
systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>.
«aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed
's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section
"Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver
"nvidia"\nEndSection' >
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to
enable the <nouveau> blacklist.
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2078[17:27:21] <jelly> aptitude -t stretch-backports -r install
nvidia-kernel-dkms
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2080[17:28:38] <password2> Should ibex ave replaced my gpu woth
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2081[17:28:49] <password2> With* gt1030?
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2082[17:28:59] <password2> Or does it not really matter
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2094[17:32:37] <password2> Is this right?
replaced-url
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2097[17:33:17] <password2> Thats the 20-nvidia.conf file
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2107[17:35:38] <password2> Im running apt fullupgrade now
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2108[17:35:52] <HeinzBoettjer> how can I resize a ext4 partition
to minimum? resize2fs works but after it is still a large partition.
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2111[17:36:37] <petn-randall> HeinzBoettjer: What command are you
exactly using? How large are the filesystem contents? How large is
the filesystem?
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2114[17:37:56] <password2> Ok rebooting after full install
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2115[17:38:23] <HeinzBoettjer> The Partition is 500 G, data are
170 G, command: resize2fs /dev/sda1 -p 170G
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2116[17:38:31] <bites> resize2fs will not change partition size,
only the filesystem inside. note that ext4 also does not support
online shrinking.
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2120[17:40:33] <HeinzBoettjer> online=mounted or must I save the
170G to other drives and delete the partiton?
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2122[17:40:59] <bites> yes, you can't shrink while it is
mounted.
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2123[17:41:20] <HeinzBoettjer> the partition is not mounted
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2124[17:41:33] <bites> you also don't change partition size
with resize2fs
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2125[17:41:42] <password2> Now what?
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2127[17:42:53] <password2> It looks still to be loading 375
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2129[17:43:31] <HeinzBoettjer> which command to change partiton
size instead of resize2fs?
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2130[17:43:59] <evilman_work> HeinzBoettjer: parted.
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2135[17:46:00] <jhutchins_wk> HeinzBoettjer: You should have a
backup any time you change partitioning. Not just the partition
you're changing, the whole device.
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2141[17:46:50] <password2> Hmm
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2148[17:49:25] <password2> can iter be helpful if i paste my
sources file , maybe its wrong?
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2150[17:51:28] <HeinzBoettjer> evilman_work: parted - resizepart
?
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2155[17:52:20] <evilman_work> HeinzBoettjer: yep. there is a gui
version - gparted.
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2157[17:53:22] <HeinzBoettjer> does not work because of e2progs
1.42
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2165[17:55:23] * HeinzBoettjer reboots to try resizepart with grm
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2168[17:56:24] <jelly> password2: that "-e " should
probably be removed from the file. Did you manager to install the
newer version?
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2170[17:57:49] <jelly> password2: verify installed versions with:
aptitude -F'%20V %p' search '~i
?source-package(nvidia-graphics-drivers)'
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2173[17:59:42] <password2>
replaced-url
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2177[17:59:59] <password2> So still 375.82 it looks like
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2181[18:01:08] <password2> I removed -e , rebootin now
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2184[18:03:04] <password2> Im on kernel 4.9.0-6-amd64 now
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2186[18:03:12] <jelly> that's up to date.
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2187[18:03:30] <password2> Ok
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2189[18:04:21] <jelly> password2: pastebin the output of
"apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-dkms
linux-headers-4.9.0-6-amd64" and "apt-cache policy"
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2194[18:05:39] <jelly> because either you're doing something
wrong during backport installation attempt, or apt isn't
configured correctly
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2195[18:06:04] <password2>
replaced-url
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2196[18:06:22] * jelly waits for the other command
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2198[18:06:48] <password2>
replaced-url
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2201[18:07:21] <jelly> password2: you did not enable contrib and
non-free sections for stretch-backports
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2202[18:07:37] <password2> Oh
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2204[18:07:56] <jelly> append " contrib non-free" to
that deb line
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2205[18:08:06] <jelly> rerun apt-get update
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2207[18:08:31] <HeinzBoettjer> evilman_work: :-( did not work.
has debian 9.0.0 the 1.43 tools as default?
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2208[18:08:44] <jelly> ,v e2fsprogs
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2209[18:08:46] <judd> Package: e2fsprogs on amd64 -- wheezy:
1.42.5-1.1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 1.42.5-1.1+deb7u1; jessie:
1.42.12-2+b1; jessie-backports: 1.43.3-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.43.4-2;
buster: 1.43.9-2; sid: 1.43.9-2; experimental: 1.44.0~rc1-1
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2210[18:09:03] <jelly> HeinzBoettjer: yes
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2211[18:09:12] <jelly> stretch: 1.43.4-2
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2212[18:09:34] <HeinzBoettjer> thanks than I burn a dvd
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2213[18:09:52] <jelly> grml.org 2017.05 ought to be fresh enough
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2214[18:10:14] <jelly> but I did not read what exactly you were
trying to do.
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2216[18:10:17] <HeinzBoettjer> but it does not work
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2220[18:10:55] <HeinzBoettjer> parted - resizepart - from 500 G
to 170 G
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2223[18:11:23] <evilman_work> HeinzBoettjer: but you should
shrink the fs itself before resize the partition!
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2224[18:11:32] <password2> Jelly i rerun the aptitude cmd to
update nvidia-kernel-dkms and now its warning about unresolved
dependencies
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2227[18:12:08] <HeinzBoettjer> I did so
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2229[18:12:51] <HeinzBoettjer> first resize2fs than parted
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2232[18:13:20] <jelly> password2: show the exact command line you
ran and the whole output
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2238[18:13:55] <jelly> HeinzBoettjer: what failed to work?
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2241[18:14:20] <HeinzBoettjer> no message
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2243[18:14:36] <jelly> resize2fs should bloody well show
SOMETHING
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2244[18:14:40] <password2> how do i capture the output , it ask
for a choice, can i still pipe it to nc?
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2248[18:15:23] <password2> Cmd is : aptitude -t stretch-backports
-r install nvidia-kernel-dkms
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2253[18:15:41] <HeinzBoettjer> sorry, resize2fs report well done
but parted say after "are you sure" Yes nothing
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2256[18:15:54] <jelly> password2: run "script
output.txt", it opens a new shell and logs everything in
output.txt, then run command in there and "exit" when
you're done. Pastebin tht file.
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2258[18:16:52] <jelly> HeinzBoettjer: what does dumpe2fs -h
/dev/whatevers | grep 'Block count:' say?
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2261[18:17:54] <password2> How do i exit?
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2262[18:18:01] <password2> Just type exit?
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2263[18:18:04] <jelly> yes
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2264[18:18:43] <password2>
replaced-url
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2266[18:19:35] <password2> Did that link work?
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2267[18:20:26] <jelly> yes
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2268[18:20:38] <jelly> 13) nvidia-driver [375.82-1~deb9u1 (now,
stable)]
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2269[18:20:38] <jelly> 14) nvidia-driver-libs [375.82-1~deb9u1
(now, stable)]
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2270[18:20:43] <password2> Ok it wont open on my phone , odly
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2273[18:20:51] <HeinzBoettjer> jelly: I reboot and make notices
...
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2274[18:20:52] <debron> hi, I would reallylike to find a browser
really light, firefox goes really slow on this primitive laptop. I
have tried links2 and works great, but cant access some sites like
gmail inbox because javascript its not enabled on links2. I have
readed that i need to recompile links2 with javascript enabled but
it says its buggy. Any alternatives? thanks in advance
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2278[18:21:48] <jelly> password2: run it again. when it gets to
the same question, note the numbers next to "Remove the
following packages:" entry for nvidia-driver
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2279[18:22:42] <jelly> password2: then tell aptitude you Reject
the suggestion to remove nvidia-driver, type: r 13 and press enter
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2281[18:23:12] <jelly> password2: then tell it to try harder:
Accept this solution? n
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2283[18:23:39] <password2> So just r13 when it asks again?
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2284[18:23:50] <password2> And then n?
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2285[18:23:51] <jelly> it might not be 13
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2286[18:23:55] <jelly> correct
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2287[18:24:02] <jelly> mind the number
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2288[18:24:07] <password2> urg it cutts off
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2289[18:24:17] <password2> How do i scroll up?
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2291[18:24:23] <jelly> shift pageup
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2292[18:25:00] <password2> Ok 13/14 is the same again
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2296[18:26:12] <jelly> you want to coerce aptitude to upgrade
everything nvidia to stretch-backports, and preferably not remove
anytihng in the process
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2297[18:26:40] <password2> Ok 13 now have an r next to it
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2298[18:26:44] <jelly> good
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2299[18:26:56] <password2> Should i do this with 14 too?
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2300[18:27:00] <jelly> no need
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2301[18:27:09] <password2> Ok
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2303[18:27:15] <jelly> let it try to figure things out again, see
if it's any better
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2305[18:27:20] <password2> So now i tell it n?
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2306[18:27:21] <password2> Ok
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2309[18:28:23] <jelly> and it tries to figure a different
solution, one that obeys your "don't remove
nvidia-driver"
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2310[18:28:24] <password2> Now it seems it wants to remove even
more
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2313[18:28:52] <password2> Nvidia-driver is no longer in there
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2314[18:28:55] <jelly> does it want to remove nvidia-driver or
nvidia-kernel-dkms?
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2318[18:30:00] <password2> No , only nvidia-driver-libs
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2319[18:30:07] <password2> And a few others
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2321[18:30:43] <jelly> ,v nvidia-driver-libs
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2323[18:30:44] <judd> Package: nvidia-driver-libs on amd64 --
jessie-backports/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free:
375.82-1~deb9u1; stretch-backports/non-free: 384.111-3~bpo9+1;
buster/non-free: 384.111-4; sid/non-free: 384.111-4;
experimental/non-free: 390.25-1
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2324[18:30:57] <jelly> password2: reject that one too, then
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2326[18:31:18] <jelly> and again tell it to think again
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2327[18:31:27] <password2> The i386 versions too?
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2328[18:31:34] <jelly> sure
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2331[18:32:23] <jelly> you'll only need those for legacy
crap or some steam games that are still 32bit, but if they're
installed already
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2339[18:33:12] <password2> Ok it says it want to leave them
unresolved now
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2340[18:33:34] <jelly> can you pastebin that bit
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2345[18:34:08] <password2> Mind if i take a photo?
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*!*@LFbn-DIJ-1-43-146.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr$##not-a-honeypot
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2351[18:34:14] <jelly> that's fine
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2366[18:37:21] <password2> Ok , ill have to redo the process and
use script again , img upload is not working
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2368[18:38:24] <jelly> uh, okay. Since you're saving the
output you might as well let aptitude do the partial upgrade it
wants to do right now, then inspect the log later and see what
we're missing
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2370[18:39:32] <password2> Ok
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2372[18:39:57] <password2> So Y
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2374[18:40:01] <ddumk> hello
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2375[18:40:03] <ddumk> i have one problem
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2377[18:40:33] <ddumk> when i go to ip/phpmyadmin it show 403
forbbiden if i type ip/phpmyadmin/index.php it download file named
"download"
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2384[18:41:33] <jelly> password2: yeah!
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2385[18:41:57] <ddumk> ?
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2386[18:42:05] <ddumk> can someone help me
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2387[18:42:07] <jhutchins_wk> ddumk: You don't have the php
handler defined (and posibly not installed) and index.php is not
defined as a valid index file.
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2388[18:42:10] <password2> Ok , its running , almost complete
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2390[18:42:13] <jelly> ddumk: which debian release is this?
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2391[18:42:18] <ddumk> debian 8.0
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2393[18:42:54] <jelly> ddumk: did php-based web apps ever work on
this system before?
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2394[18:42:54] <ddumk> i installed nginx server and then i
install phpmyadmin and i added location of phpmyadmin in
nginx/sites-enabled/default
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2398[18:43:59] <password2> Ok its warning about mismatching
nvidia kernel being installed amd suggesting i reboot to resolve it
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2399[18:44:37] <jelly> that's expected after a driver
upgrade
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2401[18:44:47] <jelly> after nvidia* driver upgrade
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2402[18:44:55] <password2> Ok doki , now i reboot again?
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2403[18:45:15] <jelly> you can, or you can go install the bits
that got removed if any
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2404[18:45:27] <jelly> and then reboot
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2406[18:45:44] <jelly> eh, reboot now and let's see
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2409[18:46:38] <password2> Ok rebooted
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2410[18:46:39] <jelly> ddumk: I'd verify php worked at all
with a nice phpinfo.php file
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2411[18:46:44] <HeinzBoettjer> jelly: resize2fs says "The
filesystem is already 44564480 (4k) blocks long nothing to do!"
dumpe2fs says "2228223" parted /dev/sdb1 resizepart: # 1
End 170GB Warning Yes Info fstab. no more
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2412[18:47:10] <jelly> HeinzBoettjer: 44564480 * 4KiB is about
170GB so the fs is resized.
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2415[18:47:33] <ddumk> all noobs god fuck
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2417[18:47:44] <jelly> !next
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2418[18:47:45] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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2423[18:49:11] <jelly> HeinzBoettjer: but dumpe2fs should have
reported that same number.
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2426[18:49:38] <password2> It looks like 384.111 is being loaded
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2429[18:50:25] <jelly> password2: but your *dm still does not
start?
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2430[18:50:52] <password2> yeah , it drops me straight to tty1
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2431[18:51:17] <jelly> password2: can you pastebin the last
aptitude install output, to see what's missing
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2433[18:51:38] <jelly> password2: and also /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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2435[18:51:51] <jelly> password2: what's the timestamp on
/var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
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2436[18:52:01] <jelly> ls -ld /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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2437[18:52:41] <HeinzBoettjer> jelly: that may that problem that
sdb1 is shown under 1.42 with gparted as 465.76. GiB but how to fix
it?
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2438[18:52:45] <password2> about 2hours 20 min ago
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2439[18:53:03] <jelly> so it didn't even start now
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2441[18:53:17] <password2>
replaced-url
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2442[18:53:32] <password2> Yeah , can i start it manually?
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2443[18:53:34] <jelly> HeinzBoettjer: hm, which partition format
is this?
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2444[18:53:40] <jelly> HeinzBoettjer: MBR or GPT?
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2445[18:53:46] <password2> Its a long paste
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2449[18:54:29] <holyhit> hallo
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2451[18:56:03] <HeinzBoettjer> fdisk say "Disklabel type:
dos" so I expect MBR
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2452[18:56:25] <HeinzBoettjer> @ jelly:
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2453[18:56:38] <jelly> HeinzBoettjer: you can then use cfdisk or
fdisk or sfdisk to edit that table.
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2454[18:57:02] <jelly> password2: dunno, "systemctl start
sddm" ?
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2455[18:57:10] <jelly> if it's sddm you use.
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2457[18:58:03] <password2> unit sddm.service noteness found
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2460[18:58:36] <jelly> do you... know which display manager is
installed?
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2461[18:58:42] <password2> Not found*
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2466[18:59:21] <password2> Lightdm?
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2467[18:59:32] <HeinzBoettjer> jelly: I can not find a option in
fdisk that looks like to change end of a partition
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2468[18:59:36] <password2> Thats the errori was getting right at
the start
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2469[18:59:36] <jelly> password2: try to start that one then
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2470[19:00:09] <password2> Nothing happens when ibex try to use
systemctl start lightdm
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2471[19:00:16] <password2> No output
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2472[19:00:17] <jelly> HeinzBoettjer: no. You have to delete
partition, and create a new one, starting _exactly_ in the same
place, and ending wherever you want
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2475[19:00:35] <jelly> poor ib'ex getting highlighted all
the time
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2476[19:00:45] <tw> password2: /var/log/lightdm/ has some
interesting files in it as well. You should check those.
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2477[19:00:48] <jelly> password2: systemctl status lightdm
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2478[19:00:50] <password2> whoops
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2480[19:02:01] <password2> Active for 15 min , jelly
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2482[19:03:13] <password2>
replaced-url
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2483[19:03:41] <holyhit> is it possible to install stretch on
bunsenlabs linux?
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2487[19:04:02] <petn-randall> !bunsenlabs
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2488[19:04:02] <dpkg> BunsenLabs Linux is a community
continuation of <crunchbang> that features the <Openbox>
window manager. It is not supported in #debian.
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2489[19:04:17] <petn-randall> holyhit: That's a different
distro, so your question doesn't make much sense. ^^^
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2490[19:04:23] <holyhit> ok
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2492[19:04:36] <HeinzBoettjer> jelly: that is too much
experimental 4 me so I try to burn a debian 9.0.0 DVD and than I try
the live system with 1.43 + gparted. If that fails I move the data
and delete the whole partition the new funktion should be a
apt-mirror with ext2
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2494[19:05:04] <hypn0> there is #bunsenlabs too
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2495[19:05:10] <password2> None of the logs in /var/log/lightdm
updated in the last 2 hours
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2497[19:05:15] <holyhit> yes, I stay there
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2499[19:05:51] <hypn0> the are going to release it someday, try
archlabs holyhit
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2502[19:06:25] <holyhit> ok hypn0 i look for archlabs, thx
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2512[19:09:42] <jhutchins_wk> holyhit: You can install stretch
instead of bunsenlabs or beside it.
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2515[19:11:16] <password2> Meh
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2517[19:11:38] <password2> i might go and install fresh debian
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2523[19:12:22] <password2> Ill give until tomorrow
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2526[19:13:37] <password2> Ill jist have to move my minecraft
saves
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2529[19:14:46] <holyhit> ok jhutchins_wk
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2531[19:14:52] <holyhit> i try it
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2532[19:14:53] <jelly> password2: weird. Can you try
"startx" instead? (xinit package if you don't have
it)
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2534[19:15:14] <jelly> password2: and then see if
/var/log/Xorg.0.log is updated
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2535[19:15:45] <jelly> you have to run it directly in console,
not inside script
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2536[19:16:02] <password2> Startx dissapeared
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2538[19:16:36] <jelly> what does that mean!
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2541[19:17:19] <password2> I could have sworn i had it a few
hours ago
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2542[19:17:30] <password2> But im not thinking clearly anymore
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2543[19:17:44] <password2> Maybe it was imagination
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2545[19:18:03] <password2> Ooh
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2546[19:18:09] <password2> Startx did a thing
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2548[19:18:40] <password2> im in my desktop
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2549[19:18:42] <password2> !
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2551[19:19:07] <password2> Desktop looks different now
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2553[19:19:31] <somiaj> startx may not run the same session as
using your display manager
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2559[19:20:18] <password2> I run it as root
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2560[19:20:30] <password2> Should i have run as my user?
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2561[19:20:32] <somiaj> ahh that is it, it own't be the same
as your user
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2563[19:20:38] <somiaj> yes, in general you never want to run
xorg as root
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2564[19:20:50] <password2> Ok / me reboots
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2565[19:21:06] <somiaj> you should be able to just quit
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2566[19:21:09] <somiaj> then run startx as your user
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2567[19:21:13] <password2> Oh
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2568[19:21:22] <password2> Too late :D
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2571[19:21:51] <somiaj> in general unless you do something with
the kernel, you shoudln't need to reboot in linux
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2573[19:22:11] <password2> ah
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2574[19:22:17] <password2> Now it looks right
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2575[19:22:33] <nix64bit> if you change user permission you might
also need to reboot
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2576[19:22:49] <jhutchins_wk> nix64bit: Permission on what?
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2578[19:22:56] <somiaj> nix64bit: user permission? I can't
think of reboots needed for that.
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2579[19:23:03] <password2> Now what do i fix so i dont have to
run startx everytime?
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2580[19:23:04] <Tenkawa> nix64bit: no.. just kill processes or
logut
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2581[19:23:06] <somiaj> adding a user to a group just requires
you logout, and logback in
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2582[19:23:06] <Tenkawa> logout
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2584[19:23:31] <jhutchins_wk> password2: Fix your dm.
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2587[19:24:08] <password2> Jhutchin_wk how?
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2590[19:24:29] <donofrio> did midori get removed from Debian?
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2591[19:24:31] <somiaj> you don't recall how you disabled
lightdm in the first place?
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2592[19:24:34] <somiaj> ,v midori
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2593[19:24:36] <judd> Package: midori on amd64 -- wheezy:
0.4.3+dfsg-0.1; jessie-backports: 0.5.11-ds1-2~bpo8+1; stretch:
0.5.11-ds1-4+b1
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2594[19:25:08] <nix64bit> I changed directory ownership recently
an needed to reboot, logging in and out didnt do it
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2595[19:25:09] <somiaj> donofrio:
replaced-url
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2597[19:25:32] <password2> My display goes a bit out of my screen
, is this something i can adjust in linux?
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2598[19:25:34] <somiaj> I think something else is going on there,
changing the owernship of a directory shouldn't require a
reboot.
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2604[19:26:20] <password2> Hmm hexchat was uninstalled
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2605[19:26:31] <password8> hi
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2608[19:26:43] <password8> Finally i can open from desktop
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2609[19:26:51] <password8> jelly, thanx so much for the help
thusfar
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2610[19:27:11] <Tenkawa> somiaj: sounds likes a missed follow
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2611[19:27:18] <password8> btw , how can i test that my gpu is
doing its thing?
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2612[19:27:19] <Tenkawa> paths
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2613[19:27:38] <donofrio> somiaj, and yet links and lynx is still
current...humm....I think someone didn't like xfce4 ;(
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2614[19:28:10] <password8> my mouse is jumping
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2615[19:28:12] <somiaj> donofrio: in general I woudl not suggest
using any browser except chromium or firefox
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2616[19:29:05] <somiaj> donofrio: I do like the lighter webkit
browsers, but they have no security support in debian, and they are
a pain to matain because of security issues, hence probably why
midori has no one wanting to matain it. And debian doesn't want
to support webkit browers, it is too much work.
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2617[19:29:05] <password8> urg , this is bad
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2618[19:29:21] <Tenkawa> those browsers are a different
strategy... comparing console to graphial is not equal
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2619[19:29:24] <somiaj> and if debian cannot support a package,
it cannot include it in a release.
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2621[19:29:56] <Tenkawa> uggh i cant type today
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2622[19:30:22] <Tenkawa> password8: what is bad?
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2624[19:30:45] <password8> Tenkawa, I'm getting really
uneven framerate
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2625[19:31:04] <password8> like every 300ms or so it stalls
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2627[19:31:24] <Tenkawa> what are you running?
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2630[19:32:05] <Tenkawa> dont get too hung up on framerates
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2631[19:32:19] <password8> Tenkawa, no its very bad
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2632[19:32:26] <password8> like my mouse jumps
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2633[19:32:32] <Tenkawa> run top in a consoole
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2634[19:32:35] <Tenkawa> er console
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2635[19:32:40] <password8> and then?
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2636[19:32:55] <Tenkawa> see what the top couple of procsses are
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2637[19:32:57] <password8> xorg is using like20% cpu!?
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2641[19:33:26] <debron> Hello. I have installed debian stretch on
a dell inspiron 1000, using a USB drive as system drive, since the
IDE drive of the laptop its broken and doesnt have any other atm. I
installed with xfce DE and everything works decent except web
browsing. I am not sure if it is because the rendering, or because
the network adapter, could someone help me to diagnose if it is
something that could be improved by
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2642[19:33:29] <debron> software? perhaps switching to diferent
drivers on network adapter or graphics.
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2643[19:33:29] <Tenkawa> once top is running hit 1
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2644[19:34:04] <password8> Tenkawa, ok
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2645[19:34:06] <Tenkawa> it shoud show you by cpu now right?
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2646[19:34:13] <password8> xorg is using way more than it used to
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2647[19:34:23] <password8> i was running htop
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2650[19:34:42] <password8> could it be rendering with cpu?
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2652[19:34:56] <Tenkawa> does any of them show anything really
high under wait state?
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2653[19:35:03] <Tenkawa> yes
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2654[19:35:13] <Tenkawa> thats where i was going
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2657[19:35:28] <somiaj> debron: webbrowsers like to cache
everything, this could end up being a lot of read/writes, and on usb
io this can be slow.
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2658[19:35:44] <Tenkawa> i wanted to see if this could isolate it
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2659[19:35:47] <somiaj> debron: It could be the network, but I
would try other tools to test your network that won't have the
io overhead.
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2660[19:35:52] <password8> wait state?
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2662[19:36:15] <password8> oh uptop
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2663[19:36:27] <password8> wa?
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2664[19:36:32] <Tenkawa> column after id
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2665[19:36:35] <Tenkawa> yep
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2666[19:36:42] <password8> no
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2667[19:36:45] <jhutchins_wk> debron: You'll probably get
better results using a live image rather than a standard
installation.
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2668[19:36:45] <debron> Well, apt-get sometimes get stucked on
connecting
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2669[19:36:56] <password8> but at times xorg uses 35%
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2670[19:37:01] <password8> *25%
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2671[19:37:10] <jhutchins_wk> debron: How much RAM on the system?
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2672[19:37:11] <password8> which is a whole core
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2674[19:37:15] <Tenkawa> stil ould be the vid
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2676[19:37:36] <password8> ?
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2677[19:38:01] <somiaj> debron: I would suggest looking into a
live system + persistance, as it will run a bit better than running
off of the usb directly.
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2678[19:38:08] <Tenkawa> if you run glxinfo from a terminal..
output it to a file
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2679[19:38:25] <somiaj> debron: and it coudl be the network, usb3
might be okay speed, but lots of caching and read/writes to the
drive could slow you down because of running off of usb
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2682[19:38:43] <debron> jhutchins_wk: i would like to check, but
since webbrosing is almost impossible and im quite newbie to linux,
could you please hint me with some command to check the ram ammount?
I think it might me like... 256 MB maybe
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2683[19:38:44] <Tenkawa> look towards the top and see if its
dirct rendering or not
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2684[19:39:09] <tw> debron: free -h
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2685[19:39:12] <debron> somiaj: I see
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2686[19:39:20] <debron> thanks , second i willcheck
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2687[19:39:25] <debron> its a very old computer, for sure
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2688[19:39:40] <password8> Tenkawa, i don't follow?
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2689[19:39:42] <jhutchins_wk> debron: free will show your memory;
top shows active stats (q to exit).
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2691[19:40:11] <somiaj> debron: 256megs of ram? A browser will
eat that up in no time.
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2692[19:40:22] <somiaj> but yea, look at free, get the real
number
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2694[19:40:32] <debron> 210 MB
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2697[19:40:47] <debron> yeah... links2 works just great
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2698[19:40:50] <tw> from which field? total?
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2700[19:41:04] <jhutchins_wk> Wow. Yeah, firfox will kill that.
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2701[19:41:07] <debron> my onlyproblem is compatibility with some
sites, like gmail inboc
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2702[19:41:09] <debron> inbox
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2703[19:41:20] <debron> tw: yeah
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2704[19:41:22] <debron> total
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2706[19:41:31] <debron> free is just 13 MB right now
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2708[19:42:17] <somiaj> yea any browser will kill 200megs of ram
in no time and require you to swap, and this will slow your system
to as crawl
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2709[19:42:18] <Tenkawa> password8: run glxinfo | grep
"direct rendering: "
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2710[19:42:22] <debron> swap 440 MB, and on the USB, so all the
time writting/reading fromthere i guess
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2711[19:42:38] <somiaj> debron: a live system on that little ram
would be hard too. I don't think you can nicely run a system
off of usb with that little ram
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2712[19:42:43] <disi> why does apt-get bail when i interrupt
listbugs even tho it asks if I want to continue, and I said yes?
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2713[19:42:45] <Tenkawa> is it enabled?
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2714[19:42:48] <somiaj> that is you want to use a webbrowser.
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2715[19:43:10] <password8> Tenkawa, it says Yes
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2717[19:43:48] <debron> yeah, well i wanted to use this to study
programming languajes, maybe ill just stick to command line and use
links to get docummentation from plain sites
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2719[19:43:58] <Tenkawa> yeah this is odd... havent seen a system
act like this
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2720[19:44:16] <Tenkawa> usually something shows up by now
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2721[19:44:46] <password8> i wish i can show how severe it is
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2723[19:45:44] <debron> thanks guys. Maybe someone know any DE
suite for this very old machines?
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2725[19:46:08] <debron> lxde was lighter than xfce?
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2726[19:46:09] <tw> debron: you're likely better off
installing debian in a VM on a more powerful system. I can exhaust
200MB of ram in a single g++ CI with boost includes.
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2727[19:46:21] <tw> *CU
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2728[19:46:41] <debron> tw: if i could i wouldnt been using this
computer hehehe
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2730[19:47:10] <debron> im in not the best situation right now,
soon will be beter, but now this is all i got
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2748[19:50:51] <Tenkawa> well that was weird
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2750[19:51:35] <password8> you timed out?
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2753[19:52:05] <somiaj> debron: a window manager is going to be
the lightest weight graphical alternative, and there are various
light weight ones to choose form.
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2754[19:52:28] <debron> i remember i used awesome before
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2755[19:52:35] <somiaj> debron: you still may not be able to
actually web browse, but maybe get some graphical tools
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2757[19:52:41] <Tenkawa> yes but I'm on a very congested
networkk
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2758[19:52:55] <somiaj> though with that little ram on a modern
os, you may want to just use the command line and work from there
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2759[19:53:04] <somiaj> as compling will require some ram if you
plan to build things
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2761[19:53:19] <debron> yeah i think its the best option too
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2764[19:53:39] <debron> thanks somiaj
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2766[19:55:40] <debron> I cant understand why this computer had
Windows XP by default... I must check the bios because i remember to
seesomething like 200+700 RAM or something like that
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2768[19:55:55] <debron> im going to reboot, brb in few minutes :P
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2774[19:59:58] <password8> urg
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2775[20:00:19] <password8> minecraft has much better framerate
than ever , but the spikes is very bad
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2784[20:02:31] <password8> best way i can show the spikes
replaced-url
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2824[20:18:19] <password8> my /var/log/Xorg.0.log has 1000s of
these lines !
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2826[20:18:41] <password8> any idea waht my be the cause?
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2827[20:19:06] <password8> so much so that the log file is
already 2.5Mb
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2834[20:20:36] <password8> bigger sample set
replaced-url
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2841[20:22:25] <Epakai> maybe display/cable issues. does the
screen freeze or blank regularly?
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2842[20:22:38] <password8> it freezes a lot
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2843[20:22:56] <password8> and xorg has high cpu usage
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2845[20:23:01] <password8> I'm on an hdmi cable
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2846[20:23:16] <password8> look at the red spikes here
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2852[20:25:31] <Betania> ???
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2855[20:25:52] <password8> Betania, whats wrong?
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2859[20:26:45] <Betania> What's this about?
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2860[20:27:09] <password8> whats my issue about?
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2861[20:27:14] <password8> or this channel?
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2863[20:28:00] <Betania> the channel!!
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2865[20:28:21] <password8> its mostly a support channel for
debain
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2866[20:28:26] <filipe_> Betania, about a operation system
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2870[20:28:42] <filipe_> Linux based and opensource
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2873[20:28:54] <nkuttler> free software even
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2874[20:29:19] <Betania> Oh, okay
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2877[20:30:06] <Betania> que bien me gusta
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2880[20:30:44] <Betania> my name is betania thank you for your
help
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2881[20:32:40] <filipe_> Betania, where are you from
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2883[20:33:30] <Betania> Been Miranda Venezuela and you
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2885[20:33:56] <filipe_> Betania, Brazil
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*!*@LFbn-DIJ-1-43-146.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr$##not-a-honeypot eir
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2890[20:34:45] <Betania> I'm glad
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2891[20:35:00] <hypn0> type /topic
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2900[20:37:36] <Betania> there is someone I want to talk
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2906[20:39:06] <password8> anyway , jelly thanx for all your help
, hopefully by tomorrow i can make more progress
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2908[20:39:39] <password8> and everyone else that helped
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2911[20:40:20] <Betania> ?'''?
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2924[20:44:23] <annadane> Betania, hi, do you have a support
question? go ahead and ask
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2926[20:45:00] <Betania> not
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2942[20:48:09] <annadane> the social channel is at
#debian-offtopic
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2976[21:00:00] <hexhaxtron> I wanted to update my whole system at
midnight of every day. How should the crontab line be?
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2977[21:00:28] <r3> hexhaxtron: this might help:
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2978[21:01:39] <hexhaxtron> r3 0 0 * * * cron-apt?
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2996[21:09:46] <RoyK> hexhaxtron: better take a look at
unattended-upgrades
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2997[21:09:47] <r3> I haven't ever used cron-apt, but you
could do something like 0 0 * * * (apt-get update && apt-get
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2998[21:10:14] <RoyK> !
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2999[21:10:15] <RoyK> !unattended-upgrades
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3000[21:10:42] <annadane> dpkg: tell hexhaxtron about
unattended-upgrades
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3002[21:10:58] <annadane> hexhaxtron, check your private
messages.
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3075[21:46:12] <disi> why does apt-get bail when i interrupt
listbugs even tho it asks if I want to continue, and I said yes?
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3109[22:02:15] <tacobat> confirming that ^ bug on stretch
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3128[22:15:15] <Chakka____> Hi Debian folks - thank you for
answering my question a few days ago about SMBv3 support in Debian
w/latest BPO kernel. I am getting an error mounting encrypted SMBv3
shares on Debian9 - what package should I report against?
cifs-utils? Kernel?
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3130[22:15:54] <Chakka____> Since my kernel is a backported:
Linux rstudio 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.14.13-1~bpo9+1
(2018-01-14) x86_64 GNU/Linux can I even report this bug?
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3135[22:17:31] <simbalion> Hi, this site recommends only using
dist-upgrade for non-interactive updates, can someone explain why?
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3138[22:18:40] <simbalion> and would dist-upgrade still deploy
all security patches? Which is my primary concern
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3147[22:21:07] <simbalion> my understanding is dist-upgrade is
for upgrading major debian versions
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3152[22:21:52] <jhutchins_wk> simbalion: I believe the manpages
for aptitude and apt-get explain it pretty well.
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3155[22:22:51] <simbalion> jhutchins_wk: I did some reading and I
see dist-upgrade upgrades dependencies and also removes packages to
prevent conflicts, but I don't see how that's superior to
using upgrade, if dist-upgrade can update dependencies wouldn't
upgrade also do that?
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3165[22:24:30] <simbalion> perhaps a better question is, can
someone provide me an authoritative answer on the best approach to a
cron based nightly update?
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3167[22:24:51] <vlt> !unattended-upgrades | simbalion
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3169[22:25:23] <simbalion> vlt: Alright, I've been using
that method thus far, I will continue to
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3197[22:39:17] <eric23> I am trying to upgrade to debian stretch
from jessie. it is complaining about not having a key with the ID
EF0F382A1A7B6500 . what is the recommended way to get it ?
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3209[22:45:22] <jhutchins_wk> dpkg: jessie -> stretch
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3210[22:45:22] <dpkg> parse error: dunno what the heck
you're talking about, jhutchins_wk
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3212[22:45:35] <jhutchins_wk> dpkg: jessie->stretch
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3213[22:45:35] <dpkg> Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of
the <release notes>
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3215[22:47:28] <eric23> so you are saying I am missing a step ? I
don't see anything about public keys
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3229[22:53:08] <jhutchins_wk> simbalion: Try pasting the full
exact text of the error into google.
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3230[22:53:09] <disi> tacobat: I'm on stretch stable fwiw
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3231[22:53:48] <jhutchins_wk> sorry, eric23 ^
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3249[22:57:42] <boehse_onkelz> guten morgen
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3254[22:58:49] <saeleko> Hello, I'm currently helping a
friend with his debian install through ssh, not that I know debian
that well, but `apt upgrade` suggests removing linux-image of the
currently running kernel, I don't think that's supposed to
happen, or am I wrong?
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3257[23:00:29] <boehse_onkelz> saeleko: try sudo apt-get
dist-upgrade
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3260[23:01:02] <saeleko> boehse_onkelz: same result
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3262[23:01:29] <saeleko> I have no idea what he did, but I feel
the packages state is inconsistent
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3263[23:01:37] <jhutchins_wk> saeleko: That's not a problem
really. Unless you need to load a module, you don't need the
kernel on-disk.
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3265[23:01:46] <saeleko> Oh
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3266[23:01:48] <saeleko> Okay
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3267[23:01:57] <jhutchins_wk> saeleko: aptitude -f upgrade?
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3269[23:02:16] <saeleko> Doesn't have aptitude installed
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3270[23:02:35] <saeleko> Do I have to get it as well? I
don't recall ever needing it on my server
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3271[23:02:47] <jhutchins_wk> saeleko: It's not uncommon to
make boot a separate partition that gets un-mounted when it's
done booting, and the kernel binary is in /boot.
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3272[23:03:04] <jhutchins_wk> I think apt-get will -f, pretty
sure apt will.
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3273[23:03:54] <saeleko> jhutchins_wk: I know, my computer's
runs Gentoo, I've done a whole lot of manual kernel stuff and
partitioning, it's just that I'm kind of lost when
it's automatic :')
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3274[23:03:57] <dob1> if I don't have any reference on eth0
(or any other interfaces) on /etc/network/interfaces where is setup
the lan address ?
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3276[23:04:28] <jhutchins_wk> dob1: Probably network manager.
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3278[23:04:50] <jhutchins_wk> dob1: ... which probably uses dhcp.
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3279[23:05:01] <dob1> jhutchins_wk, where can I look?
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3282[23:05:53] <dob1> for sure it is assigned via dhcp
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3283[23:05:57] <jhutchins_wk> dob1: Which release? Do you have a
GUI/Desktop? Which one?
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3284[23:06:12] <dob1> I am connected via ssh, it's jessie
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3285[23:06:35] <jhutchins_wk> dob1: Ok, so what do you want to
change?
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3286[23:06:53] <saeleko> jhutchins_wk: well indeed grub seems
just fine with it, my bad, thanks for the help o/
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3288[23:07:15] <dob1> jhutchins_wk, change nothing, just confirm
it is assigned via dhcp
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3292[23:07:43] <jhutchins_wk> dob1: How else would it be assigned
if you didn't configure it? ps ax | grep dhc
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3293[23:07:48] <dob1> I found something on
/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Wired\ connection\ 1
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3294[23:08:34] <jhutchins_wk> dmesg -T | less
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3296[23:09:16] <dob1> jhutchins_wk, I didn't configure it,
the address is static not assigned via dhcp
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3298[23:10:36] <jhutchins> dob1: I'm out. Provide a much
more detailed account of what you're trying to do and what the
environment is. The only answer I can give you from what you've
said is "it depends".
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3304[23:12:01] <dob1> jhutchins, I found the answer. This system
was not installed by me and I was checking if the lan address is
assigned via dhcp or it is static. on /etc/network/interfaces there
is nothing, you suggest me to look about NetworkManager and I found
somehthing on /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Wired\
connection\ 1
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3308[23:12:17] <dob1> here the address is setup
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3370[23:33:22] <MichaelOF> hi all. installed 9.3, fresh download,
i386, on an old PC. Dual boot, old XP box. Installation itself went
fine, system starts. But X / Gnome fails to start. Screen changes to
graphical, mouse cursor appears, a couple of seconds to be waited,
mouse cursor dissappears. X starts automatically again.
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3372[23:33:53] <MichaelOF> Login via ssh is possible, and dmgesg
shows " gnome-shell[503]: segfault at 4 ip ac6e876d sp bf923e90
error 4 in libLLVM-3.9.so.1[abde2000+2d1b000]"
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3373[23:34:21] <MichaelOF> again and again. found this:
replaced-url
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3386[23:41:15] <jhutchins> dob1: That was probably configured vi
nm-cli or if there's a GUI then the NM Applet for whatever
desktop. Wouldn'