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57[01:18:20] <MrHatter123> I have a buster box that I just ran an apt autoremove on, it hung for about 7 minutes on this :
58[01:18:21] <MrHatter123> Processing triggers for dbus (1.12.16-1) ...
59[01:18:22] <MrHatter123> Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
60[01:19:08] <MrHatter123> should i be worried ?
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99[02:00:10] <uxfi> test
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101[02:01:14] <sney> !test
102[02:01:14] <dpkg> Test failed.
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114[02:16:54] <MrHatter123> debian 10, hangs on this again : Processing triggers for dbus (1.12.16-1) ...
115[02:17:05] <MrHatter123> during an apt-get upgrade
116[02:17:41] <MrHatter123> now it continues, after about a 5 minute hang
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118[02:18:13] <sney> look in dmesg or journalctl for the affected time period, there may be more informative errors in either place
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121[02:19:01] <MrHatter123> sney, thx i will check
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128[02:28:32] <hansh> the man page for crypt (`man crypt`) doesn't state if the return value should be free()'d or not
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130[02:29:28] <hansh> kindof makes sense if the answer is yes, but the manpage shouldn't leave people to guessing
131[02:31:07] <hansh> oh, >>>The return value points to static data whose content is overwritten by each call.<<<
132[02:31:13] <hansh> means it shouldn't be freed
133[02:32:14] <hansh> (but also means it's thread-unsafe, > │crypt() │ Thread safety │ MT-Unsafe race:crypt │ )
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189[03:35:40] <oxek> anyone know the history why the config file for 'less', located at ~/.less is a binary file?
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192[03:38:50] <LtL> oxek: it should be, .lesshst: ASCII text
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194[03:39:30] <oxek> yeah, .lesshst is ascii, but that's the history file, I am talking about the config file, .less
195[03:40:00] <oxek> .less is a binary file, generated by running lesskey that takes input from a textfile ~/.lesskey
196[03:40:05] <LtL> oxek: i don't have that?
197[03:40:15] <oxek> it looks unusually convoluted, and I was wondering about the history of it
198[03:40:36] <oxek> LtL: you're probably configuring 'less' through exporting environment variables then?
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201[03:41:17] <LtL> oxek: i haven't done so on purpose, if i am.
202[03:41:41] <sney> it sounds like it's probably some kind of database format, like what you get in postfix if you postmap certain configs
203[03:41:51] <nvz> well, I'd imagine that since its a pager and the config can change keybindings, it was thought that performance would be an issue
204[03:41:54] <sney> possibly for lowmem reasons?
205[03:42:20] <oxek> so just historically to preserve as little space as possible by keeping it a binary format?
206[03:42:39] <sney> the man page for less lists 1984 as the first copyright date. that pager is as old as me! so yes, probably.
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208[03:43:06] <oxek> it doesn't save much space though - there's no compression, I can still see all the options if I directly open the file, except that it has some binary garbage around
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213[03:46:24] <nvz> ,i most
214[03:46:26] <judd> Package most (text, optional) in buster/amd64: Pager program similar to more and less. Version: 5.0.0a-4; Size: 46.9k; Installed: 119k; Screenshot: replaced-url
215[03:46:54] <nvz> seems like the more modern and maintained of the three
216[03:47:08] <oxek> not very popular though
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218[03:47:30] * dvs starts creating "mostest" pager
219[03:47:50] <nvz> maybe just call it all
220[03:48:00] * oxek starts least
221[03:48:15] <sney> NO, ALL
222[03:48:45] <oxek> at least 'less' is almost everywhere
223[03:49:01] <nvz> ∞
224[03:49:04] <oxek> but with a curious binary config file...
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226[03:49:39] <nvz> cat /dev/zero | ∞
227[03:49:40] <oxek> and searching online for programs with names that are in english dictionary is a horrible experience...
228[03:50:21] <nvz> put gnu in front of it
229[03:51:11] <nvz> its like trying to search for the artist Pink.. and getting Pink Floyd.. just gotta be smarter than what you're workin with :P
230[03:51:37] <nvz> "gnu less" "pink -floyd" .. etc..
231[03:52:12] <nvz> there used to be a linux search..
232[03:52:27] <oxek> "gnu less" still doesn't help me find the reason for why .less is a binary file
233[03:52:32] <somiaj> well I did find a blog that said, "On startup, less reads a configuration file, which on Unix systems is in ~/.less. For some ungodly reason, this is a binary file, and you have to use the lesskey program to generate it."
234[03:52:55] <sney> maybe there's a comment in the source.
235[03:54:14] <nvz> replaced-url
236[03:55:09] <nvz> apparently they discontinued the custom search portals.. but that cse link is a similar thing
237[03:55:21] <nvz> when you search "less" in that you only get relevant results
238[03:55:52] <mutante> replaced-url
239[03:56:23] <oxek> somiaj: yeah, I was reading the same blogpost
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241[03:57:06] <LtL> nvz: great tip, many thanks... shame on google
242[03:57:07] <sney> the comments at the top describe the binary file's format, but don't explicitly state its purpose. it is a database though, essentially. replaced-url
243[03:57:24] <oxek> in fact, finding documentation on proper formatting of .lesskey is impossible too. Only through testing I found out that I don't need spaces between NAME=VALUE, but cannot use ''
244[03:57:28] <nvz> LtL: yeah well, they're famous for coming up with crazy ideas then discontinuing them
245[03:57:31] <somiaj> replaced-url
246[03:57:56] <somiaj> The part I noticed was byte strings, probably just decided to have lesskey turn options into bytestrings instead off less itself.
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248[03:58:16] <sney> lesskey.1.gz should probably have that comment block included tbh
249[03:59:15] <mutante> fun fact: less is more than more. "less was written by a man who was fed up with more's inability to scroll backwards through a file. He turned less into an open source project and over time, various individuals added new features to it. less is massive now. That's why some small embedded systems have more but not less."
250[03:59:53] <nvz> perhaps there were also ideas to have less be slim as possible and keep all the deps and crap for parsing the config in a seperate program you could build without
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252[04:00:15] <mutante> diet-less
253[04:00:24] <Xu95> less lite
254[04:00:43] <Xu95> same great taste
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256[04:00:55] <oxek> isn't 'more' just a cut-down version of 'less' nowadays? I.e. it comes from the same source?
257[04:01:48] <somiaj> nvz: that is partly what it looks like to me, lesskey is just preporessing the options file, which can be a useful optimization, though most likely not noticiable on modern hardware
258[04:01:53] <mutante> ""“less is more, but more more than more is, so more is less less, so use more less if you want less more. (...) If less is more than more, most is more than less.” —Slackware Linux Essentials
259[04:02:52] <nvz> heh
260[04:03:24] <nvz> more or less..
261[04:03:31] <somiaj> oxek: At least in debian they are different source packages, there is less and util-linux (which contains more)
262[04:04:10] <oxek> I might be wrong then
263[04:05:19] <nvz> yeah well it could be possible on some systems its swapped out
264[04:05:34] <nvz> like linking of sh to bash and bash actually being dash
265[04:05:43] <nvz> and crap like that
266[04:06:01] <Xu95> like how vi is actually vim.tiny
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269[04:09:06] <somiaj> sney: Yea, I often forget there is good information in source code comments (from my understanding is a lot of emacs documentation is reading them)
270[04:09:35] <oxek> I looked through the sourcecode of lesskey and am not any wiser regarding the reason for binary format
271[04:10:49] <sney> if it's smaller by any amount, even negligible by modern standards, that may have been enough to justify it in the 80s
272[04:11:31] <sney> "you want to load the less binary, a whole text file, *and* some custom configuration into memory *at the same time*? what, does ram grow on trees?"
273[04:11:37] <oxek> on my system, .less is larger than .lesskey
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275[04:12:02] <oxek> because .less contains plaintext version of .lesskey, but with binary garbage around it
276[04:12:09] <somiaj> oxek: It is a form of preprocessing, that way all less needs to do is use the bytestrings, as opposed to having to parse and intrupit a config file.
277[04:12:37] <somiaj> but the processor that reads the options just needs to import the bytestring, it doesn't need to do any processing on it
278[04:12:45] <somiaj> s/prcessor/process/
279[04:13:02] <somiaj> so that is a speed gain each and every time less is run
280[04:14:17] <oxek> interesting. Doubt it matters much anymore.
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282[04:14:50] <oxek> just struck me as odd that it has a binary config file, unlike most of other software from unix that I know
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284[04:15:08] <nvz> well the location of it struck me as odd.. and instantly I knew it had to be a legacy thing
285[04:15:11] <oxek> but I guess the real config file is .lesskey then, and .less is just a middleman
286[04:15:17] <somiaj> yea, most likely not noticeable on mondern hardware, but still an optimization
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288[04:15:28] <nvz> cause they've moved away from that just having crap in ~/ now.. you have ~/.config/ and ~/.cache/ and such
289[04:15:52] <nvz> if it were any bit modern, it'd probably be ~/.config/less
290[04:16:04] <nvz> to comply with modern standards efforts
291[04:16:06] <oxek> nvz: I still have so many things in ~/ as opposed to ~/.config/. wget, vim, ...
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293[04:16:48] <somiaj> yea, anything that isn't part of the desktop is going to keep their tranditioanl config files
294[04:17:05] <nvz> fair enough I suppose
295[04:17:21] <oxek> tmux recently added ~/.config/tmux/tmux.conf as a default location for config file
296[04:17:34] <oxek> so times are changing for some software
297[04:18:07] <nvz> I do think standardization is going to be the large focus of the linux community in the near future.. even those against it are gonna have to start coming around
298[04:18:37] <somiaj> oxek: though I consider tmux 'modern', I would be surprised if screen would to do that
299[04:19:09] <nvz> things are just getting too complicated anymore to not have some interoperability and there are too many corporations and such sitting on boards and pushing things in that direction.. because companies need to know they can rely on a lil more consistency to get into things
300[04:19:49] <oxek> good documentation > consistency
301[04:20:33] <nvz> not in the desktop market.. where you got entirely different systems at work that are layers upon layers of incompatible stuff
302[04:20:35] <oxek> I don't like having to run strace just to find out the location of configs because it's not documented anywhere...
303[04:20:47] <nvz> yeah.. that is annoying
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334[05:08:00] <kats99> I want to know if I'm using Nvidia. When I run optirun glxinfo it spits out a bunch of numbers and OpenGL version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.132
335[05:08:20] <kats99> OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
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337[05:08:57] <kats99> But when I open nvidia-settings it says you do not appear to be using nvidia x driver
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340[05:15:01] <kats99> this is the output of inxi -G replaced-url
341[05:15:05] <sney> kats99: maybe nvidia-settings doesn't like the nvidia legacy (390) driver. your other output indicates you are using it
342[05:15:34] <sney> ah, or it can't see it because of optimus
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344[05:16:21] <kats99> oh ok..so I am using it
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346[05:16:47] <sney> yes
347[05:18:06] <sney> the man page for nvidia-settings doesn't indicate any way to specify a gpu, so it probably just checks the primary, sees intel, and gives up
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349[05:20:15] <kats99> it's not like heavy programs like ffplay on 4K see the primary, intel and use it to 100% instead of using nvidia, is it?
350[05:22:01] <sney> I don't know for sure, but it's my understanding that if optimus is configured right, it'll use the nvidia gpu for the heavy lifting
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412[07:22:48] <giantmidget> Hey lads - not a specificly OS-related question but whatever: the hard drive on which my debian installation is located is almost full. I keep pretty much all my files on another disk, but my installation disk is small so it's been filled up with packages and programs I've installed. Is there a way to specify an alternate install directory when installing packages and/or software not from debian repos? And is there a way to
413[07:22:48] <giantmidget> move some existing packages to this other drive?
414[07:24:34] <sney> not really, because the fhs means packages install stuff to /bin /etc /usr /var and so on
415[07:24:48] <sney> how small is the root partition?
416[07:25:25] <giantmidget> 80GB
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420[07:26:25] <sney> that should be more than big enough. maybe you have some data in /var that you didn't account for when segregating files to a different volume?
421[07:26:36] <giantmidget> It's also encrypted, so I assume just dd'ing it might not be so easy
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423[07:28:32] <giantmidget> sney /var is at 9.5GB
424[07:29:07] <giantmidget> 7GB of which are in /var/log
425[07:30:21] <sney> for reference, / on this system that has survived at least 3 full debian versions and a lot of me screwing around, only has 47GB used.
426[07:30:54] <sney> huge logs mean something is broken. find your big log, find what owns it, you'll find the solution soon
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429[07:32:22] <giantmidget> sney it's the Xorg logs...
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477[08:36:01] <usr1987> is there a contact manager that is similar with google contacts? I just have a ton of duplicates I want to merge, any help?
478[08:36:59] <Haohmaru> no idea, but if you can sort them then the duplicates should be more visible
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538[09:33:53] <zro> Trying to get wirless working on debian 10.4 on an old machine. lspci shows: Intersil Corporation ISL 3874 (Prism 2.5) / ISL 3872 (Prism 3) ... which leads me to believe i need this package: hostap-utils ... but its not part of stable? just old stable?
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552[09:42:40] <ratrace> zro: that'd be for host Access Point. Are you trying to manage an access point with that?
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554[09:42:58] <zro> no just trying to get wifi working
555[09:43:04] <zro> i very well could have misunderstood the wiki
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557[09:43:42] <ratrace> zro: you can check if any firmware is required: dmesg | -i firmware if that output lists any files that are missing, then you need firmware
558[09:44:28] <zro> i assume thats ''grep'' -i firmware?
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560[09:44:58] <ratrace> zro: darn, yes :)
561[09:45:20] <ratrace> apparently my brain can't handle a phone call and irc typing at the same time lol
562[09:46:23] <zro> i dont see anything there, but dmesg shows zillions of wifio: hfa384x_cmd: cmd_queue full ... and ... ...384x_get_rid: CMDCODE_ACCESS failed (res=-1, rid=fd51, len=6)
563[09:46:30] <zro> np. I knew what u meant
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575[09:56:19] <ratrace> zro: sorry, all I see online is a bunch of same problems reported decades ago, so I'd guess the kernel driver is long abandoned and nobody seems to be using that any more
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577[09:56:45] <zro> ok, actually i rebooted the system and see this now too when i grep dmesg replaced-url
578[09:56:57] <zro> ya, it might be afools errand to get this old ass t30 working
579[09:56:59] <ratrace> zro: I haven't looked at them all, so if you have the patience, google for "hfa384x_cmd" and dive in
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581[09:57:37] <ratrace> zro: that's radeon firmware, you need package firmware-amd-graphics
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586[09:59:44] <jomofcw> Hello !
587[10:00:32] <ratrace> hurr
588[10:00:40] <jomofcw> Using the default FTP package of Debian 10, I've sometime the problem that the file path/name is too long and I can't open/download it on a FTP connection. Is there a place I can change this limit, please ?
589[10:01:13] <ratrace> what's default FTP package of Debian 10?
590[10:01:21] <zro> oh, i just realized that using the nonfree iso doesnt actually add nonfree to the sources.list automatically
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592[10:02:31] <jomofcw> ratrace hello ! That's a trully good question... :x
593[10:02:49] <jomofcw> And BTW I use SFTP, perhaps i'ts not the FTP package that handle it in fact...
594[10:03:04] <ratrace> jomofcw: okay, can you pastebin the commands you're using and the problematic output you have?
595[10:03:09] <jomofcw> Find the FTP package name : VSFTPd
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597[10:03:31] <ratrace> sftp? like ftp-over-ssh?
598[10:03:58] <themill> jomofcw: sftp normally means something completely different
599[10:04:32] <jomofcw> ratrace yes.
600[10:04:47] <jomofcw> themill yea I got it after asking :s.
601[10:05:05] <themill> or do you mean ftps?
602[10:05:16] <jomofcw> And anyway, i'm wrong : I can download the file from filezilla, so that's not a SFTP restriction, but a client restriction (I use NPPFTP on notepad++).
603[10:05:23] <jomofcw> Nop, I mean SFTP.
604[10:05:39] <ratrace> I heard from people using it, that filezilla is a bit buggy with sftp.
605[10:05:57] <zro> ive never encounterd such a thing w sftp... a path limit? i dont think thats a feesible thing
606[10:06:36] <zro> like how long are you talking? like zillions of characters?
607[10:06:45] <ratrace> zro: it isn't with openssh's sftp(1)
608[10:06:59] <jomofcw> Here filezilla achieve the download without anyproblem of name length.
609[10:07:40] <jomofcw> zro hehe not that long ^^ : /home/myuser/JAM_Difus-moteur_sites-git/replaced-url
610[10:08:13] <themill> I find the idea of having an sftp client built into the editor moderately terrifying...
611[10:08:37] <zro> theres no way thats reaching some kind of limit
612[10:08:52] <zro> that would be an insane bug in a client
613[10:09:06] <zro> something else is wrong
614[10:09:14] <zro> whats the error say?
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625[10:24:45] <jomofcw> zro no error :/. I've posted an issue on the NppFTP Github page.
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627[10:26:06] <zro> no error?
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630[10:27:49] <zro> well at any rate, you will probably have better luck in an NPP chanel or something
631[10:30:07] <zro> well if anyone has anything insghtful to say about this hfa384x_cmd stuff (replaced-url
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634[10:41:37] <jomofcw> zro yea you're right. Thanks for your time.
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722[12:39:59] <f8e4> hi folks, do you know of a simple graph generator like dot but no external shared libs, only a simple bin?
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748[13:03:35] <RoyK> f8e4: I guess you could compile it statically?
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753[13:05:30] <RoyK> f8e4: but why do you want it without using external libs?
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758[13:08:04] <f8e4> yes fully standalone
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760[13:08:20] <f8e4> replaced-url
761[13:08:26] <f8e4> what do i have to put in one dir to make it run?
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763[13:11:00] <Trieste> hi, my login shell is set to /bin/bash, but neither .profile nor .bashrc are sourced when I login over ssh; if I login over ssh, and then manually run `bash`, it works just fine. What gives?
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767[13:15:57] <RoyK> f8e4: just curious - why fully standalone?
768[13:17:54] <RoyK> Trieste: strange - does the user own those files?
769[13:18:24] <Trieste> yup, 644 perms as well
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774[13:23:21] <f8e4> portalbiltiy
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776[13:27:24] <f8e4> RoyK ./configure --help has no static compile
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780[13:28:46] <RoyK> f8e4: anything wrong with installing the packages with ansible?
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785[13:30:47] <Trieste> RoyK: solved in #bash - pyenv install created a .bash_profile, which bash then prefers over .profile :)
786[13:31:08] <f8e4> yes all ok.
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789[13:33:17] <RoyK> Trieste: ah - I see
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821[14:05:36] <ws2k3> im trying to convert this: while ! output=$(mailq) || [[ $output != "Mail queue is empty" ]]; do ((count++ < 120)) || { printf >&2 'Timed out waiting for mailq\n'; exit 1; }; sleep 1; done; printf 'All good!\n' from bash into sh anyone an idea how to handle the do ((count++ < 120))?
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831[14:18:51] <JyZyXEL> something like count=$((count+1)); [ "$count" -lt 120 ]
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833[14:21:07] <ws2k3> JyZyXEL: while ! output=$(mailq) || [[ $output != "Mail queue is empty" ]]; do count=$((count+1)); [ "$count" -lt 120 ] || { printf >&2 'Timed out waiting for mailq\n'; exit 1; }; sleep 1; done; printf 'All good!\n' im getting sh: ID-: unknown operand am i still missing something?
834[14:23:21] <JyZyXEL> sh doesn't have [[
835[14:25:09] <ws2k3> JyZyXEL: hmm then how should i overcome this?
836[14:25:27] <JyZyXEL> by using [
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840[14:27:33] <ws2k3> JyZyXEL: hmm when using: while ! output=$(mailq) || [ $output != "Mail queue is empty" ]; do count=$((count+1)); [ "$count" -lt 120 ] || { printf >&2 'Timed out waiting for mailq\n'; exit 1; }; sleep 1; done; printf 'All good!\n' i still get: sh: ID-: unknown operand
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843[14:30:26] <ratrace> ws2k3: replaced-url
844[14:30:38] <JyZyXEL> you have to quote variables in [ to prevent globbing and splitting
845[14:30:38] <ratrace> ie, just count files in respective mailqueues
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847[14:34:37] <JyZyXEL> run your scripts trough shellcheck to first take care of trivial mistakes
848[14:34:38] <ws2k3> ratrace: does this sound like an idea?: while ! output=$(mailq) || [ '$output != "Mail queue is empty"' ]; do count=$((count+1)); [ "$count" -lt 120 ] || { printf >&2 'Timed out waiting for mailq\n'; exit 1; }; sleep 1; done; printf 'All good!\n'
849[14:35:16] <ratrace> ws2k3: no, just count files in their respective queues
850[14:35:59] <ws2k3> ratrace: i dont want that. i wanne know if the queue is emty or not. thats all
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859[14:39:13] <ratrace> ws2k3: which queue?
860[14:39:24] <ws2k3> postfix mailqueue
861[14:39:31] <ratrace> which one? there's several
862[14:39:43] <ws2k3> ratrace: the one mailq shows
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864[14:40:06] <ws2k3> ratrace: or how do you mean there are several
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866[14:40:45] <ratrace> ws2k3: the "incoming" queue for example won't show up in mailq, but postfix will be holding message it's currently processing, for example, there
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868[14:41:01] <ratrace> it _will_ show up if you count files in /var/spool/postfix/incoming
869[14:41:35] <ratrace> ws2k3: more about queues: replaced-url
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873[14:48:15] <ws2k3> hmm...: while ! output=$(mailq) || [ '$output != "Mail queue is empty"' ]; do count=$((count+1)); [ "$count" -lt 120 ] || { printf >&2 'Timed out waiting for mailq\n'; break; }; sleep 1; done; does not notice Mail queue is empty correctly and exit the loop
874[14:48:35] <ratrace> well, you do have a bug.... '$output != "..."' should be [ "$output" != "Mail queue is empty" ]
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877[14:50:31] <ws2k3> ratrace: like this?: while ! output=$(mailq) || [ "$output" != "Mail queue is empty" ]; do count=$((count+1)); [ "$count" -lt 120 ] || { printf >&2 'Timed out waiting for mailq\n'; break; }; sleep 1; done;
878[14:50:49] <ws2k3> ratrace: cause when mailq shows queue it immidiatly exits and shows Timed out waiting for mailq
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882[14:52:57] <g0zzy> With extundelete is there no option to just restore a directory to where it was? It seems always be some sort of copy operation to RECOVERED
883[14:54:23] <ratrace> ws2k3: well yes, "immediately" being after 120 loops
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885[14:54:38] <ratrace> which I take happens very very fast so it looks like immediately
886[14:54:58] <ws2k3> ratrace: i forgot to do count=0 before i ran the command again ^^
887[14:55:17] <ratrace> oh wait you have a sleep in there before done, it's hard to read like this, perhaps you should pastebin
888[14:56:03] <ratrace> though this is kinda offtopic here
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969[16:21:35] <Kobaz> i put raid=noautodetect in my boot command line but I still get over and over on bootup: no arrays found in config file or automatically
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971[16:25:48] <Kobaz> oh, it's coming from /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
972[16:25:50] <Kobaz> yay, i fixed it
973[16:28:06] <flayer> you're welcome
974[16:28:28] <annadane> !next
975[16:28:29] <dpkg> Another happy customer leaves the building.
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991[16:42:54] <mzajc> greetings. for some reason, grep seems to default to --colour=never (using auto or always seems to work fine) on debian systems. is this controlled by some environment variable or is there something else?
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995[16:50:07] <rgwu> It's in the man page for grep under --color
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1001[16:56:34] <mzajc> rgwu: couldn't find what you were referring to
1002[16:56:43] <mzajc> setting GREP_COLORS doesn't change this
1003[16:57:02] <rgwu> GREP_COLOR no ess at the end
1004[16:58:04] <mzajc> rgwu: my GREP_COLOR and GREP_COLORS are currently both set to 'ms=01;31'
1005[16:58:21] <mzajc> I don't know what 'ess' you're talking about
1006[16:59:22] <rgwu> GREP_COLOR can contain the same value you would put in --color
1007[16:59:37] <rgwu> If you would read the man page section under --color that would help
1008[17:00:31] <mzajc> are we looking at the same man page? quoting from the flag description "The colors are defined by the environment variable GREP_COLORS."
1009[17:00:46] <mzajc> regardless
1010[17:00:53] <mzajc> let's see if setting it to always works
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1014[17:01:52] <rgwu> mzajc: Perhaps I'm misreading that section. I interpreted it to mean GREP_COLORS accepted the color value settings and GREP_COLOR contains the "when" value.
1015[17:02:32] <mzajc> I understand it as "GREP_COLOR is the deprecated naming of GREP_COLORS, but they set the same thing"
1016[17:03:03] <mzajc> rgwu: no, setting it to always does not help. I've also tried '=always' and 'ms=always'
1017[17:03:28] <rgwu> mzajc: You're correct. Further down under ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES that is explained clearly
1018[17:03:34] <rgwu> GREP_OPTIONS may help though
1019[17:04:07] <mzajc> oh, yes, that's probably what I'm looking for
1020[17:04:17] <mzajc> should've read further down the first time
1021[17:04:43] <mzajc> `grep: warning: GREP_OPTIONS is deprecated; please use an alias or script`
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1023[17:05:12] <mzajc> curious, I'm trying to avoid using either because I want it to work seamlessly across all users
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1025[17:06:36] <rgwu> Oftentimes people do a command like 'foo | grep someSearchSTuff | otherProgram' <-- grep with color output on always could break the functionof otherProgram
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1027[17:07:31] <mzajc> yes, but wouldn't 'auto' mitigate that?
1028[17:08:21] <mzajc> setting it to auto explicitly works, and it _should_ be the default (or at least a random stack exchange thread indicates that it is), but it doesn't appear to be the default on debian
1029[17:08:56] <mzajc> it, however, seems to be the default on ubuntu server, and probably on other distributions as well
1030[17:09:11] <rgwu> There's probably a compile time option that determines what the default is
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1032[17:10:37] <mzajc> that would be unfortunate. I suppose I'll just use alias for now
1033[17:10:46] <mzajc> thanks for your time
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1035[17:11:20] <rgwu> I wasn't much help, but you're welcome
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1037[17:11:45] <mzajc> you pointed me in the right direction with GREP_OPTIONS, that's something
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1040[17:18:27] <CarlFK> I am trying to change a udev rule that is affected by replaced-url
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1042[17:18:29] <judd> Bug replaced-url
1043[17:19:06] <CarlFK> I have a uvc webcam that doesn't create 2 /dev/videox,y nodes
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1068[17:49:14] <zro> anyone got any insight into getting wirless working on an old machine with Intersil Corporation ISL 3874 (Prism 2.5) / ISL 3872 (Prism 3)? I see a log of angry stuff in dmesg about hfa384x_cmd : eg replaced-url
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1092[18:06:31] <teo7> Hi I'm trying to install wine32, but there's a problem with practically all the depends.. in particular, with libwine:i386. I'm on debian 10 stable 64 bit, and yes, I'm sure that I've already add the i386 architecture and do an update.
1093[18:06:48] <teo7> What can I try else?
1094[18:08:42] <annadane> are you installing wine from the repository or from winehq? regardless, post your full output to paste.debian.net
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1123[18:43:40] <quadrathoch2> teo7 what does apt policy say about that package?
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1130[18:47:38] <teo7> quadrathoch2: this is for wine32:
1131[18:47:39] <teo7> $ sudo apt policy wine32
1132[18:47:39] <teo7> [sudo] password for manu:
1133[18:47:39] <teo7> wine32:i386:
1134[18:47:39] <teo7> Installed: (none)
1135[18:47:39] <teo7> Candidate: 4.0-2
1136[18:47:39] <teo7> Version table:
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1141[18:47:57] <quadrathoch2> !paste
1142[18:47:57] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: replaced-url
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1150[18:49:27] <quadrathoch2> !paste | teo7
1151[18:49:27] <dpkg> | teo7: put your output on replaced-url
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1153[18:50:54] <teo7> quadrathoch2: and this is for libwine:i386 -> replaced-url
1154[18:51:10] <teo7> dpkg: yes, I'm sorry
1155[18:51:10] <dpkg> teo7: are you using Windows?
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1157[18:51:30] <petn-randall> dpkg: are you a bot?
1158[18:51:30] <dpkg> I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
1159[18:52:00] <Inepu> Hi, I have a problem with debian in VM. After a suspend in the host system, the debian in VM freezed, and when I reboot it, I was no more able to login my user. The system open the login screen, but when I insert user and password the system show the login screen again, and again. I can't login... What could i do?
1160[18:52:14] <Inepu> It's openbox
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1162[18:52:21] <Inepu> debian stretch
1163[18:54:23] <quadrathoch2> and when you install wine, it doesn't get installed teo7?
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1165[18:54:45] <petn-randall> Inepu: You might want to look up the logs for your login manager. I'm guessing that it can't start your X or wayland session for some rason.
1166[18:55:30] <teo7> quadrathoch2: wine and wine64 work fine, but I need wine32
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1171[18:56:45] <Inepu> Could be petn-randall, how could i look up the logs for my login manager?
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1173[18:57:14] <fossrox> hi everyone!
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1175[18:57:47] <quadrathoch2> teo7 so what happens if you install wine:i386
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1178[18:59:25] <fossrox> question: Can I find anywhere an archive of .deb files? A few hours ago I've run update from buster-backports and I lost and older package that was previously available there...
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1181[18:59:55] <teo7> quadrathoch2: this replaced-url
1182[19:00:01] <petn-randall> Inepu: You should be able to check it with `journalctl -u gdm`, assuming you are running systemd and your login-manager is gdm. Both are "default" if you haven't picked anything else.
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1187[19:00:56] <quadrathoch2> teo7 sudo apt install --reinstall wine
1188[19:01:17] <teo7> But wine32 doesn't come installed by wine, it's only recommended
1189[19:01:29] <zeden> Anyone else hit by this bug that affects gimp? replaced-url
1190[19:01:30] <judd> Bug replaced-url
1191[19:02:02] <quadrathoch2> teo7 then you could make sure that it gets installed with --install-recommends
1192[19:02:07] <quadrathoch2> but it should autoinstall them
1193[19:02:18] <petn-randall> ,v gimp
1194[19:02:19] <judd> Package: gimp on amd64 -- jessie: 2.8.14-1+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2.8.14-1+deb8u2; stretch: 2.8.18-1+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2.8.18-1+deb9u1; buster: 2.10.8-2; bullseye: 2.10.18-1; sid: 2.10.18-1
1195[19:02:24] <teo7> Ok thanks, I'm trying..
1196[19:02:29] <teo7> quadrathoch2:
1197[19:03:00] <Inepu> ok petn-randall, I'm going to try now, thx
1198[19:03:03] <petn-randall> !debian-next
1199[19:03:03] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. See also replaced-url
1200[19:03:10] <petn-randall> zeden: I'd try this channel ^^^
1201[19:03:19] <petn-randall> It's where the testing/sid users hang out.
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1204[19:06:05] <zeden> petn-randall: Already asked on oftc:#debian-next but it's a slower channel. But thanks for the time
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1207[19:07:59] <teo7> quadrathoch2: wine seems installed, but not wine32..
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1210[19:08:24] <teo7> Unfortunately, I need wine32 for playonlinux
1211[19:09:02] <quadrathoch2> teo7 oO, weird, that should have worked. maybe try to remove/purge wine again and install then
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1214[19:09:31] <teo7> Because it crashes with this error: "it looks like wine32 is missing, you should install it.
1215[19:09:31] <teo7> as root, please execute "apt-get install wine32"
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1217[19:10:49] <quadrathoch2> still weird, because if you install wine (even reinstalling) it should notice that there is no wine32 installed, so it should get installed
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1224[19:21:14] <teo7> quadrathoch2: I tried also purge, but nothing...
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1227[19:22:24] <quadrathoch2> teo7 can you post what you tried?
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1230[19:23:34] <teo7> I tried apt install --reinstall wine
1231[19:23:54] <teo7> Then apt install wine --install-recommends
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1233[19:24:11] <teo7> But again, it install only wine and not wine32
1234[19:24:29] <quadrathoch2> teo7 yeah I want to see what apt tells you
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1236[19:24:48] <teo7> Of course, sorry
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1239[19:25:59] <teo7> quadrathoch2: replaced-url
1240[19:26:05] <teo7> It seems a normal installation
1241[19:27:29] <teo7> replaced-url
1242[19:27:36] <teo7> This is --install-recommends
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1244[19:28:53] <quadrathoch2> teo7 does it also install only the package wine, after purging -> autoremoving dependcies?
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1250[19:39:09] <teo7> Yes, unfortunately
1251[19:39:14] <teo7> quadrathoch2:
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1260[19:47:48] <quadrathoch2> teo7 let me just test for a sec
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1268[19:53:53] <quadrathoch2> teo7 so I tested it, and I installed wine without wine32. and I have no issues after installing wine (without recommends and the whole i386 shebang) just installing sudo apt install wine32 fixes everything
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1270[19:54:40] <teo7> So maybe it may have been some package installed not by the Debian repo .. just that i don't remember what it could be
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1272[19:55:10] <teo7> is there a way to eliminate everything not installed through the official repo? quadrathoch2
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1274[19:56:07] <greycat> !dmm remove
1275[19:56:08] <dpkg> If you want to remove the packages from deb-multimedia.org and reinstall the packages from Debian repositories, one could do this: dpkg --remove --force-depends $(aptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?origin(Unofficial Multimedia Packages))' --disable-columns -F%p); remove the dmm repository from sources.list; apt-get update; apt-get install -f; install the still missing packages which were removed in the former process ...
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1277[19:56:29] <greycat> You might try that "aptitude search" in isolation, without the dpkg --remove $() bits.
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1402[22:13:17] <annadane> i know WINE mono isn't packaged in debian but does anyone know if the one from winehq works with it?
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1442[22:57:25] <annadane> oh hmm
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1444[22:57:32] <annadane> i guess mono is packaged in debian
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1446[22:57:42] <jhutchins> annadane: winehq should know. They have a database of packages that work on the current release.
1447[22:57:58] <annadane> there's a mono-complete and i guess that would satisfy it
1448[22:58:09] <annadane> though i'm just wondering if there's a more minimal version
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1452[23:00:56] <annadane> i'm going to try installing mono-complete from debian
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1457[23:08:56] <annadane> nope, doesn't work
1458[23:08:59] <annadane> blah
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1480[23:44:48] <plouj> Hi, what kind of wildcards are supported by the debian/package.install file? I don't see it explicitly listed in replaced-url
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