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10 [00:03:30] * xtore wonders if anyone here is familiar with the
dante socks server
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17 [00:06:15] * rant wonders if anyone here is familiar with asking
useful questions
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22 [00:08:08] <xtore> Not sure if it's off topic here so
didn't want to write the whole thing out
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26 [00:08:48] <annadane> xtore, is it included in debian? then
no, it's not off topic
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30 [00:09:31] <xtore> annadane, ok being a debian noob could you
tell me what the latest and greatest debian distro is that has it
included?
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32 [00:10:09] <annadane> xtore, well, there you go, it's in
stretch
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34 [00:10:18] <annadane> so if you just ask a more detailed
question we can help you better
35 [00:10:27] <annadane> unless you're using sid, in which
case
36 [00:10:29] <annadane> !debian-next
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50 [00:16:32] <xtore> annadane, uhmm is stretch unstable? If so
I may go for sid if that's the recommended one
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52 [00:16:40] <annadane> xtore, no, stretch is debian stable
53 [00:16:47] <annadane> but you linked sid, which is debian
unstable
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55 [00:17:07] <xtore> oh that link was just a random url as a
result of my googling
56 [00:17:08] <annadane> but as you can see, the package you
linked is available in debian stretch - stable - so it's fine
to ask about here
57 [00:17:19] <xtore> What version number is stretch?
58 [00:17:22] <annadane> 9
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64 [00:19:00] <xtore> Ahh I don't see 9 in esxi 6.5 sadly
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66 [00:19:38] <annadane> xtore, you're running debian
inside a virtual machine, then?
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68 [00:20:00] <xtore> I will be soon, yes. It's going to be
a bit of a hurdle getting it installed however
69 [00:20:20] <xtore> I wonder of debian 6 is still supported?
esxi says "legacy" but I assume that's the most tried
and tested
70 [00:20:30] <annadane> ah, well, you can probably just
download an image and install from there
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72 [00:20:41] <annadane>
replaced-url
73 [00:21:00] <xtore> Anyway just to let you know the problem I
was having with dante was an erronious one probably related to the
routing table. So a person on SO solved the problem by switching
from centos6 to ubuntu LTS so I figured I could perhaps try one of
the debians.
74 [00:21:41] <annadane> you probably do not need debian 6 just
for that
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79 [00:24:10] <xtore> yeah but if it magically makes dante work
I will be happy
80 [00:24:41] <xtore> I figure since it's an integrated
package, then the routing tables will be set up appropriately as
opposed to on centos 6 where it's an externel epel package
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83 [00:24:54] <xtore> Here is my guiding light btw if
you're curious:
replaced-url
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94 [00:31:40] <xtore> Oh looks like esxi does support debian 9
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118 [00:39:47] <SIN3R6Y> Anyone else having issues getting the
isc-dhcp-common package? I get an during an installtion im trying to
via netinst
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123 [00:41:25] <annadane> ,v isc-dhcp-common
124 [00:41:26] <judd> Package: isc-dhcp-common on amd64 --
wheezy: 4.2.2.dfsg.1-5+deb70u8; wheezy-security:
4.2.2.dfsg.1-5+deb70u8; jessie: 4.3.1-6+deb8u2; jessie-security:
4.3.1-6+deb8u2; stretch: 4.3.5-3; buster: 4.3.5-3+b1; sid:
4.3.5-3+b1
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126 [00:41:35] <annadane> !bat
127 [00:41:35] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
128 [00:41:39] <annadane> SIN3R6Y, ^
129 [00:41:56] <annadane> oh, hang on, this is in the installer
itself?
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131 [00:41:58] <SIN3R6Y> it's debootstrap, so long list. Do
you just want the error?
132 [00:42:08] <annadane> yeah, any relevant output
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135 [00:42:46] <annadane> (paste.debian.net)
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137 [00:42:58] <SIN3R6Y> E: could not download packages:
isc-dhcp-common only error message
138 [00:43:08] <SIN3R6Y> And debbootstrap exists with 1
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140 [00:43:19] <Brigo> SIN3R6Y, are you using stable?
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142 [00:43:32] <SIN3R6Y> yes, latest strech install
143 [00:43:51] <annadane> or termbin, i guess
144 [00:43:54] <annadane> !termbin
145 [00:43:54] <dpkg> termbin is probably you can paste to
termbin.com from terminal via: cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com
9999
146 [00:44:11] <Brigo> nice idea termbin
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151 [00:45:22] <annadane> but if it's in an install
situation either one may not work
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153 [00:45:30] <annadane> i'm not very knowledgeable of
debootstrap
154 [00:46:00] <Brigo> i guess is in the downloading proced,
before the installing or copying.
155 [00:46:10] <Brigo> so network or servers issue.
156 [00:46:11] <annadane> both _should_ be fine but i don't
know
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158 [00:48:08] <Brigo> SIN3R6Y, or maybe not enought driver space
...
159 [00:48:34] <SIN3R6Y> 16g shouldn't be an issue, but i
can check. Waiting for it to fail again
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161 [00:48:45] <SIN3R6Y> It's a minimal install
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165 [00:50:56] <Brigo> SIN3R6Y, if there is 16G availables for
the install then you are right.
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167 [00:51:44] <Brigo> i just pointing out the usual problems
that can lead to that error message.
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169 [00:51:50] <xtore> If I want to install non-gui debian is
there an option for that during install or some special trick?
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175 [00:52:21] <n4dir> xtore: yes, don't pick a
desktop-environment during taskel, rather at the end of the
installation process
176 [00:52:33] <xtore> It's that simple?
177 [00:52:37] <n4dir> it is probably set per default, so you
have to untick it.
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179 [00:52:40] <n4dir> yes, that simple
180 [00:53:14] <n4dir> you will be asked if you want a DE, the
standard utils, an ssh-server, cups, and a few more things. Pretty
obvious
181 [00:53:27] <AlexPortable> How do i isntall mysql-client on
debian 8.6?
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184 [00:54:06] <AlexPortable> oh wait it works now nvm
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191 [00:56:36] <SIN3R6Y> Brigo:
replaced-url
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193 [00:57:43] <annadane> my immediate suspicion is probably a
bad mirror and to suggest selecting another
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198 [00:58:35] <SIN3R6Y> annadane, well i can install them using
apt in the live env
replaced-url
199 [00:58:38] <Brigo> i agree, if you can chouse
200 [00:58:55] <SIN3R6Y> debootstrap and apt share the same
sources.list
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202 [00:59:18] <Brigo> you can do that too.
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204 [00:59:35] <Brigo> just copy from one system to another.
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206 [00:59:59] <SIN3R6Y> Well debootstrap wont actually install
the system if packages fail to download
207 [01:00:10] <annadane> if you can install from a live env
that's probably fine, i assume it will set the system up
correctly regardless of when those packages were installed, but in
theory it's something to watch out for because it wasn't
configured properly at the time
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209 [01:00:44] <annadane> debian is pretty good about delaying
configs and matching them all up ad hoc after the fact
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212 [01:01:03] <annadane> note that i say "probably"
and "in theory"
213 [01:01:07] <annadane> ask the non idiots
214 [01:01:51] <SIN3R6Y> Well the issue is getting deboostrap to
actually install with the missing packages. Might try to setup a
local mirror since i can get them via apt
215 [01:02:01] <annadane> right
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218 [01:02:28] <annadane> it may also be an improperly set up
debootstrap but it makes less sense than a bad mirror
219 [01:02:28] <SIN3R6Y> im using ftp.us.debian.org so i'd
hope it's not a mirror issue, but it sure seems like it
220 [01:02:54] <SIN3R6Y> Also considering is deboostrap in a
fresh live install
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222 [01:03:49] <annadane> incidentally if it does work with a
different mirror i'd report those mirror errors
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226 [01:04:16] <annadane> i'm not sure where the proper
place to do it is; perhaps #debian-replaced-url
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240 [01:08:49] <SIN3R6Y> Looks like an intermittent mirror issue,
Running with --verbose i get a 502 error, then up re-run it works
fine
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243 [01:09:46] <annadane> oh, good.
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281 [01:24:32] <ksk> Hey. Running a 2xQuadcore System with
Debian, Can I expect to CPU0 to be cores 1-4 and CPU1 to be cores
5-8 -- or how does that work? :)
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288 [01:26:36] <koollman> ksk: you can use 'lscpu' to
know that
289 [01:27:15] <koollman> ksk: example on a dual socket e52620v4,
the two last lines: NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0-7,16-23 , NUMA node1
CPU(s): 8-15,24-31
290 [01:27:28] <koollman> (so, no. you cannot just expect that)
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295 [01:29:16] <ksk> okay, thanks!
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299 [01:33:33] <annadane> actually for that matter, is there a
list of all ls* commands?
300 [01:33:41] <annadane> lscpu, lsblk, lsusb...
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311 [01:38:44] <ksk> lsls that would be imho :>
312 [01:38:59] <LtL> annadane: just type ls and hit tab like a
rock star
313 [01:39:17] <ksk> but that would depend on installed packages
LtL?
314 [01:39:35] <LtL> ksk: certainly
315 [01:39:40] <LtL> yes
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317 [01:40:19] <LtL> ksk: the majority of 'ls*'
cmd's are core cmd's anyway
318 [01:40:22] <annadane> oh, right. autocomplete.
319 [01:40:26] <annadane> dug.
320 [01:40:28] <annadane> duh.* even
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322 [01:41:12] <ksk> autcomplete is the admins friend (or not!).
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324 [01:41:32] <LtL> annadane: depends on your path also i
believe, so... be root
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326 [01:41:58] <LtL> or maybe not
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328 [01:42:12] <annadane> time for a science experiment!
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330 [01:42:32] <annadane> yeah no, i get the same as root and non
root
331 [01:42:50] <annadane> though i used su - instead of su
332 [01:42:50] <LtL> ok, cool annadane
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335 [01:43:53] <LtL> i'm a firm believer in 'su -'
unless i want to become a different regular user.
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344 [01:52:34] <LtL> annadane: one basic difference in su -
versus su is that su - will make /root/ your pwd, su will not iirc.
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365 [02:01:46] <xbadc0de> Hello
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367 [02:02:22] <xbadc0de> I have installed debian, testing and
for some reason I dont have the usual login screen where I can
choose which WM to use
368 [02:02:29] <xbadc0de> X seems to not start automatically
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370 [02:02:53] <xbadc0de> because if I do startx everything goes
in normally but I dont get to change my window manager
371 [02:02:56] <xbadc0de> can you help?
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373 [02:04:00] <annadane> xbadc0de, did you use the testing
installer? if you're just looking to install testing (as
opposed to testing the installer) it's better to install a
minimal stable first, upgrade to testing and then add what you need
374 [02:04:04] <annadane> that being said,
375 [02:04:06] <annadane> !debian-next
376 [02:04:06] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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379 [02:04:53] <xbadc0de> annadane: I did use stable and then
changed my repos to testing
380 [02:05:04] <xbadc0de> and everything seems to be almost
working
381 [02:05:10] <xbadc0de> except this issue with startx
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433 [02:32:19] <xtore> So after installing debian 9 I find that
the command ifconfig does not exist
434 [02:33:01] <mutante> xtore: it has been replaced by the
"ip" command
435 [02:33:09] <mutante> ifconfig is outdated
436 [02:33:37] <mutante> xtore: for example "ip a s" to
show stuff
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440 [02:36:55] <LtL> strange as it is a fresh stretch install on
a new hdd on my laptop *does* have ifconfig. go figure i don't
recall doing anything special.
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450 [02:43:53] <LtL> mutante: 'ip a' does the same
thing as ip a s
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457 [02:49:33] <mrr0butt> ifconfig is still in the repo its just
not installed by default
458 [02:49:45] <mrr0butt> apt-get install net-tools
459 [02:50:33] <mrr0butt> but due its not preinstalled you should
be abel do the stuff with ip
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463 [02:53:24] <mrr0butt> and it can do way more stuff then
ifconfig
464 [02:53:37] <mrr0butt> ip link help
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468 [02:54:36] <mrr0butt> !py3 ip link help
469 [02:55:02] <mrr0butt> ups :D
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484 [03:03:54] <TyrfingMjolnir> Is there a way to see if there
are disk speed failure? Using proc or similar
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526 [03:31:12] <xtore> mutante, my most used commands were
"ifconfig -a" to get an idea of what was there and half
there and also "ifconfig eth0 up" and "ifconfig eth0
down"
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531 [03:33:05] * xtore wonders if he can safely rename
"ens192" in the /etc/network/interfaces file to
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537 [03:37:43] <SIN3R6Y> So i have tasksel stuck at conifguring
dbus for about 30 min, systemd using 100% cpu
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545 [03:40:41] <hanasaki> so debian hangs on grub on boot of an
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546 [03:40:48] <hanasaki> this is the iso for the installer
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592 [04:11:32] <transhuman> Hi! asking this question here hoping
someone can point me to the right place to ask
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594 [04:11:56] <transhuman>
replaced-url
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601 [04:16:42] <transhuman> never mind figured it out some what
npm run --script <script name> but I have to create a
packages.json, now to figure out how!
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679 [05:22:40] <fishcooker> what's preferred apps to handle
copy paste list of commands?
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688 [05:26:53] <awal1_> fishcooker, paste where?
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691 [05:28:59] <bazhang> awal1_, he means something like
pastebinit
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693 [05:29:16] <awal1_> bazhang, ah, ok
694 [05:29:34] <awal1_> there is also termbin, I think
695 [05:29:42] <awal1_> ,v termbin
696 [05:29:43] <judd> No package named 'termbin' was
found in amd64.
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712 [05:39:17] <transhuman> hi! Anyone able to help me figure out
this mess with npm ?
replaced-url
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781 [06:02:42] <lucr3zi4b> âââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX
SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: gandiva
aindilis OS-30663 genpaku lift Guest38449 guardian TimEnchanter
gm152 atf komugi gatekeep martybr canvon_ Arieh jandrusk spacebug^
PaulePanter c0ncealed GDiaX jak2020 bipolar gmh Saar peterS
Quantumcross profall xcm eb0t_ A|TARIS Te[u]K grumble imMute ageis
gusnan loeken lazareo dtux qor
782 [06:02:42] <BARBIE20> ââââââââââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN
STRUGGLING WITH FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS:
askz jonathan_ Pelle` Ring0` Quantumcross eb0t_ bogus- CHRiSNEW
nyuszika7h cyboman33 vincent_c Saar hank thecoffemaker qzo
NeoBlaster chrissl Ad1Tech edwardly fiQmob gandiva pierrot Bercik
xtore Doldge fast tomreyn stu_meat Jdbye m
783 [06:02:42] <indust> ââââââââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN STRUGGLING
WITH FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS: xand terr1
Shadowcrit systo marens benj_ necrogami lionheartActual adrenaline
mkam[m] Relicka abff LocaMocha sqz planetmaker jh Dezponia amd_0x51
therock247uk stefanc_diff JesseWalling mreznik geir_ chrissl
PaulePanter distantorigin Spitfire sloucher
784 [06:02:43] <lucr3zi4b> ââââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX
SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: boser
dbristow domovoy_ shpingrlde Asoka chalcedony t3eblinder1 Zorroness
sussudio lsyoyom argusbr ageis jeddi Sina maf_p mentor makz
awhitlock8 _rubik Pugabyte Sir_Designer__ daemonkeeper MobileMatt
waz0wski canvon_ CeBe luuh Aebian ChmEarl TimWolla lsv RebelCoderR
785 [06:02:43] <lucr3zi4b> âââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL
PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT:
snkcld r0bby bobe ChmEarl eir gehaxelt ozzloy sunkan SleePy eb0t
SolarAquarion bigjazzsound jh001_ sophiya berndj aerbax RUDE Jim[m]
iCherry- Tramp JesseWalling rooty_ SpeedBus_ test659898[m] Rockj
neechan stu_meat plicease_ mutante jas4711 palinuro KNERD
786 [06:02:43] <indust> ââââââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO
GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND
SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: tolecnal juhop RUDE serban flipp somnambler
supersoju vegenaise likcoras smidlers _systemd_is_evil nyuszika7h
Stummi Druid Nik05 kriskropd zymurgy sobkas Sina SirCmpwn
chachasmooth_ O SIN3R6Y thero
787 [06:02:43] <indust> ââââââââââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT
SHE IS JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER
RESIGNATION: Zauberfisch darkstalker MeltedLux mdorenka eb0t_
BeamWatcher roguelazer eki Igel OS-30663 levifig BARBIE20 KNERD
f3bruary L3gacy Gabemo r3m Pichet_ james41382 toorop jpic nebul8
darkalia
788 [06:02:43] <lucr3zi4b> âââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO
GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND
SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: Quick_Wango babyflakes hipodils1i ezra-s
PhonicUK ShaRose BotaniCar volodim natr0x kbob ScottE staircrusher
lankanmon jandrusk ejsf TMan459 stwalkerster Dragon5232 grandfso
nezZario ledeni Snakes chrissl Toffe ghostyyy zolo tab
789 [06:02:43] <indust> ââââââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO
GET A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND
SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: clorophormo RH_IO zz_zz MrHyde bier bpsecret
jhq awhitlock8 Swant Rockj SkIzZaTo joze aliasnumber13 Dad` dbristow
moetunes staircrusher pron duckydan crash_ chalcedony BaW eir hasdf
skagerak TimEnc
790 [06:02:43] <NYRDi> âââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT SHE IS
JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER
RESIGNATION: Tybor r3 Kitty nhandler idmistir Quick_Wango Noah0504
Sue phar6oor musca Gransy- zmachine Olipro sethkush SpeedBus_
thekingofbandit kevy0 trobotham AlexZ_ Zauberfisch Dj_Dexter Psy-Q
cybrNaut hessu ohithere led_belly Ad1Tech ultralow Swant zack6849
rook2pa
791 [06:02:43] *** Quits: lucr3zi4b (~lucr3zi4b@replaced-ip ) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
792 [06:02:43] <zolo> âââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX SHOWS TO
MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: georgeowell
Rovanion s0ph0s evotopid ffernand Cisien webbyz qzo cadeskywalker
maf_p volodim hessu {41444d494e} AxForest prasket dos1 sIRwa3
gareth_ acperkins GDiaX kocubinski bolovanos_ modlin rook2pawn
Dr-Shadow nopf keith4 spanglesontoast MonsterKiller Jguy babilen
Sir_Designer__ runde ericnoa
793 [06:02:43] <BARBIE20> ââââââââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL
PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT:
ChanServ ibex CrazyEddy urzds tensorpudding hank levifig VBrain
testing214[m] APLU StephenS lukasdboer roguelazer tec___ Guest55057
lan_stuff shastry aliasnumber13 sloucher Peterzen dondelcaro DK2
slicepape
794 [06:02:43] <BARBIE20> ââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN STRUGGLING WITH
FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS: peterrooney kerrhau
Guest40802 Ellied platicus2 rolig linuxdaemon cybrNaut paul_ x42
nicdev dmarr rokas dwar ArlequInOut patsToms Ilie[] F14W3D tekmo_
nix64bit paradizelost whis lan_stuff bluj sidewalk a64 DLange inSync
dondelcaro blackwell austin987 sbeyer jmnk bove raSter^ apollo13
thekingofbandit jonathaN f
795 [06:02:43] <taakeslot> ââââââââââââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN
STRUGGLING WITH FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS:
Iridos diytto electro33 sidmo_ Ad1Tech Netwolf sistematico soahccc
Asoka toorop eck Beretta021 pony teraflops tonyoy Dad` ageis
WARBIRD199 meminemy slack_ # Cosmophile afx237 namix parshimers
Cavedude Graypup_ b
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797 [06:02:43] <AyLa> âââââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET
A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND
SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: noodle beaver elik lbata phogg WebDawg
fishcooker palinuro Janhouse nprs benf BaW styks1987 solos mspo
PhilSliderS pppktz lift mdroid GGMethos BotaniCar tugrik sekjun9878
gr4yscale nopf CrazyyMaxx pipeep nur
798 [06:02:43] <zolo> âââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A
GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED
TO KLINE OPAL.: jor kuchi zz_zz beardy Chex rooty_ helldorado mete
anonnumberanon tsia AxForest Jguy Dj_Dexter TaZeR oberling NoCode
petn-randall Cork strass fiQmob guios inviz tyler2435 Nightmare
vincent_c JZA rax- xar- precise|otter runde ho
799 [06:02:43] <zolo> âââââââââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX
SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: mrm
wizzy_ michaelni adds68 nix64bit XDS2010|AFK Masaomi[m] sekjun9878
petan ggherdov Tristan-Speccy jos3ph jdiez Guest24088 lmcloughlin
Druid rakor atf C swaechter bmixed[m] mreznik anonnumberanon m712
eb0t cybrNaut
800 [06:02:43] *** Quits: BARBIE20 (~BARBIE20@replaced-ip ) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
801 [06:02:43] <taakeslot> ââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL
PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT:
christel kevy0 StephenS botho blazeme8 b0l3x sc_ duckydan wingman2
fast KjetilK yuastnav Cosmophile kward Butt3rfly flipp sucks rolig
mcintosh mete netrace Piper moss |ifei5good acperkins Nd-69-M serban
wooden_ benf CrazyEddy larjona cbdev luz1 SleePy hid3 skz enkry
802 [06:02:43] <taakeslot> ââââââââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN
STRUGGLING WITH FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS:
mdorenka scoopex wytchmaster bluj enoch85 schoppenhauer mibo Deific
RichiH Geom remy somiaj Sleepy63 Ishaq sukaeto Dagger edvb sniku_
AxForest ShockingIsntIt eki blue zolo dpkg MuffinMedic Rhuarc Toris
noodle atomi Tristan-Speccy larjona mossman Enric
803 [06:02:43] *** Quits: taakeslot (~taakeslot@replaced-ip ) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
804 [06:02:43] <AyLa> ââââââââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX
SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: guios
geir_ hasdf Cavedude l9 xorex Sciuro bodeezl celyr pyllyukko Pwnna
Renari hid3 acperkins systo atf sptnx hiroki pztrick RebelCoder
platicus2 adds68 Dez cyberzeus babyflakes nnyby squarecircle
IdleGandalf Cabanossi LoRez
805 [06:02:43] <AyLa> ââââââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT SHE
IS JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER
RESIGNATION: tolecnal {sd}- ultralow altendky tadz lru cybrNaut
splinux kalebo superkulak cmam nwe qzo lstanley satanist ecelis
Piggy stwalkerster ngc0202 electro33 tiwake rolig qmr wonderworld
heap_ g4spr0m rokas L235 A|TARIS N3X15 timele
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807 [06:02:43] <zolo> âââââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL PROMOTING
WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT: mypapit
nadersith APexil StathisA nopf aliasnumber13 Dad` basicmiracle
blazeme8 sophiya fatalis Dezponia timeless lukasdboer Arrowmaster
Acrisor High_Priest snkcld christel monty Galihom MeanEYE babilen
chud WARBIRD199 Trellmor mindstor
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809 [06:02:43] <skejte> ââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A
GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED
TO KLINE OPAL.: cooldude ShaRose koollman Kobaz indust natr0x elik
sasukeskapa latez WebDawg asaba AxForest osro riex cybrNaut F14W3D
Natrick l9 Jdbye jannic benjen TimWolla volter pugfantus ruslan_m
sc_ solos duckydan sobkas mhall119 zmachine monty qman__ vutral
modlin jo
810 [06:02:43] <gunda> âââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT SHE IS
JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER
RESIGNATION: olivetree_ atlas Rockj inaki amorel_ rupam123456 dmarr
goberle tiwake Guest40802 Zardoz Butt3rfly staircrusher f3bruary
AndrewPRS brizz ozzloy oojacoboo mgdelacroix rpifan shtirlic
AlwaysHigh Noskcaj relaxed popnfresh N3X15 emss _ppp fred`` BiGBOi_
darkalia mel00010 Dezponia[
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812 [06:02:43] <ziomecz> ââââââââââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED
THAT SHE IS JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL
HER RESIGNATION: Gabemo CrypticSquared crayon benj_ aindilis mundus
w0bni styks1987 sasukeskapa phar6oor remote fiQmob Zorroness Sue
wzyy2 Marlon skagerak Namarrgon jor epsilon jhutchins Jacob843
vOYtEC
813 [06:02:43] <rjinswa> âââââââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL
PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT:
cthuluh krytarik piklu treaki3 diniwed Ximensi0ns musti sunkan runde
heap_ rr ejsf drathir bogus- jak2020 Mad_Hatemp kbob ArchDuke Bercik
internot_ pawalls Wotac ThoMe d-fence__ superkulak adc zolo
noobineer ska clor
814 [06:02:43] <gunda> ââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A GUN
AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED TO
KLINE OPAL.: wzyy2 gmh wytchmaster hiyosi sander85 vonsyd0w tekk
sunkan Yooka Jurkki trobotham foriin tarzeau_ jonathan_ preaction
Ticho s0lar1s dak mz` n0p_ Poster blue patsToms peterrooney
anthony25 drathir qmr hayer #deb rizzo _tremo benaiah infinity_
peope zmachine solos Galihom goberl
815 [06:02:43] <gunda> âââââââââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX
SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: Fusl
Velgor nshp Shadowcrit sayo- LV-426 thunderrd Artox AndrewPRS rr
mibo BiGBOi_ samouy x10 adoua_ LostSoul beingbrown vook sandman13
cendo meminemy adoua Arkaniad pixdamix zz_zz iskatu Dave[m]1 bobe
bvs sIRwa3 Iri
816 [06:02:43] <ziomecz> ââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A
GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED
TO KLINE OPAL.: L235 danwellby bogus- remy jimmyTb_ ejsf
digitalnomad91 Gazooo Ard1t Apeiron` shingouz Arrowmaster msb
kriskropd Guest24088 kwmiebach lexruee somiaj Eryn_1983_FL crayon
mhall119 Clouder diytto karlamrhein bnw Smuckerz tugrik Cosmophile
grim4593 roastedsnowflake Zauberfisch mel
817 [06:02:43] <ziomecz> âââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL PROMOTING
WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT: colo-work
tyranny12 Enrico_Menotti jas4711 teraflops mkam[m] jasperberries
skagerak Bercik awhitlock8 mreznik abff Druid maf_p eir
Tristan-Speccy uptime jrj Groenleer Iridos stwalkerster fast
michael_mbp namix blazeme8 d-fence__ Tramp RickXy ohithere
georgeowell jhq chrissl mattgirv krzych max-m
818 [06:02:43] <wiedz> ââââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT SHE IS
JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER
RESIGNATION: kerrhau icxcnika_ mavhq hns Zerant enoch85 Janhouse
Geshman Hestben x-fak e1z0 gmh banging _KaszpiR_ SirLagz sethkush
mtoroyarzo rkta kirkland High_Priest nobody vincent_c hipp Mathisen
NeoBlaster duckydan Alina-malina orb jordanm cooldude bluene
819 [06:02:43] <gunda> âââââââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET
A GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND
SCARED TO KLINE OPAL.: lexruee APexil basicmiracle nopf Ceber
zmachine nicdev Hoosilon meminemy sukaeto sekjun9878 matzeG_
folivora kanzure tobh_ richardjohn splinux nwe kunwon1 bryceml
Devastator Sue thms_ xPucTu4 flipp Cosmophil
820 [06:02:43] <wiedz> ââââââââââââââââââ VAP0R IS STILL
PROMOTING WHITE SUPREMACY IN #/JOIN AND OPERS HAVE NOT STOPPED IT:
jmnk luz1 WebDawg nprs James_T lifeofguenter chiluk Guest40802
Ring0` Cerise Soliton riex teej scoopex cthuluh bzed dayten
loddfafnir mtoroyarzo Acrisor RebelCoderRU mastensg adelyne Deific
sIRwa3 olegfusion pet flokuehn piklu
821 [06:02:44] <wiedz> ââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX SHOWS
TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: Enrico_Menotti
babilen croddy le_pig ryan-c duoi turfrex hicks_ DLange bradjones
Fusl konimex dixie7z_ peteski wooden_ Delta-One andhoy KjetilK
jhutchins sandman13 cadeskywalker ShaRose TonyL LaunchDirector j7k6
Schmantinski Loomaanaatii Arroyo1010 talin superkulak judd RyanKnack
Gurty
822 [06:02:44] <gunda> âââââââââââââ OPAL TELLS PEOPLE TO GET A
GUN AND KILL THEMSELVES AND DEMIURGE (e) IS SUCH A PUSSY AND SCARED
TO KLINE OPAL.: petemc Ishaq Netwolf amospalla urzds kline bureado
atwar altendky kward olegfusion sidmo_ james41382 Arrowmaster flipp
Profound Noah0504 benf phantomcircuit DK2 xar- rxo `z
lionheartActual iter hexhaxtron SolarAquarion ibex coolchris ozzloy
papitf
823 [06:02:44] <ziomecz> âââââââââââââââââââ EL HAS REALIZED THAT
SHE IS JUST NOT SMART ENOUGH TO BE AN OP AND HAS GIVEN CHRISTEL HER
RESIGNATION: Guest24088 mcintosh Natrick x-fak frlttrwrd mavhq
jesopo eb0t_ mattgirv fcanela shingouz volodim Henry151 Toris ledeni
TReK ramshadow Mahe dbristow abff heinrich5991 alxd nezZario jim
PaulePanter
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826 [06:02:44] <ziomecz> ââââââââââ EL HAS BEEN STRUGGLING WITH
FINDING OUT THAT EMERSON AND DAX ARE GAY QUEENS: JStoker smlx sIRwa3
j7k6 fiQmob Zerant mattgirv PIBER b0l3x mar77i stealthii remote
dixie7z_ Ad1Tech heurist JelmerD sekjun9878 Saar wzyy2 luz1 armin
basicmiracle dos1 nicoulaj DarkDevil Jim[m] Iridos apollojustice
sloucher teclo- JyZyXEL Mad_Hatemp digdilem typosaurus uwd_ verboese
crayon Hijiri introom jandr
827 [06:02:44] <ziomecz> âââââââââââââ OPAL IS DOING LIVE SEX
SHOWS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE IN SCHOOL @ TRANNIESFORSALE.COM: sidewalk
PhonicUK infinity_ roylaprattep Cyb3r-Assassin TReK mumixam
james41382 toorop tekk Emmanuel_Chanel pelegreno_ mgdelacroix
roastedsnowflake safe babyflakes Arroyo1010 Voldenet Namidairo
rjinswa somiaj exezin simonlnu benjen n4n0` DzAirmaX alexlist
cheapie Kamilion kwa
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831 [06:03:29] <ngc0202> wow.
832 [06:03:38] <fishcooker> qlipper like awal1_ bazhang
833 [06:04:00] <sandman13> Operators!
834 [06:04:06] <fishcooker> what a spammer!
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836 [06:04:31] <LocaMocha> Kindly refrain from commenting on it.
837 [06:04:34] <r3m> you all know he/she still here waiting for
reaction? dont feed the troll
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850 [06:16:41] <jasperberries> #fortune
851 [06:16:41] <opal> Your fortune: Better not tell you now
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877 [06:40:04] <blessedekko> if i am following this guide:
replaced-url
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879 [06:41:19] <blessedekko> (assuming wlan0 / wlan1 as my cards)
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920 [07:08:29] <pale3> anyone experience relocation error on
chromium startup in debian stable
921 [07:08:57] <pale3> /usr/lib/chromium/chromium: relocation
error: /usr/lib/chromium/chromium: symbol jpeg_skip_scanlines,
version LIBJPEG_6.2 not defined in file libjpeg.so.62 with link time
reference
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981 [07:34:33] <Chr|s> Im either stupid....or just really stupid.
I downloaded the cinnamon live cd for debian and I have it loaded,
how do I install? isn't their an option to install using GUI?
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991 [07:38:02] <awal1_> Chr|s, live images are not really the
recommended ones for install
992 [07:38:22] <Chr|s> blah, I figured I could install from a
live cd lol
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994 [07:39:29] <jordanm> there was a live installer, but I
wouldn't be surprised if it's not around anymore. the team
working on it was small
995 [07:40:02] <Chr|s> oh alright
996 [07:40:10] <tamarindo> Chr|s: but i guess there's still
an "install" icon on the live desktop
997 [07:40:41] <Chr|s> yeah, I figured that was the case, but no
install icon here
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999 [07:41:33] <tamarindo> Chr|s: not even in the menus? things
change so quickly, i'm getting old :-D
1000 [07:42:19] <Chr|s> hah I hear you there. Nope, checked the
menus, I don't see anything.
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1002 [07:42:58] <Chr|s> I was suprised how fast the LiveCD loaded
up. Just like a regular desktop
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1004 [07:45:56] <tamarindo> yeah... as far as i understood the
debian live project will disappear because of lack of developers
1005 [07:46:06] <tamarindo> that's quite sad
1006 [07:46:56] <tamarindo> (just now that it loads quickly! :-) )
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1056 [08:19:41] <jelly> pale3: what does this say: dpkg -l
chromium libjpeg62-turbo | tail -n 2
1057 [08:20:37] <pale3> jelly: ii chromium 62.0.3202.89-1~deb9u1
amd64 web browser
1058 [08:20:39] <pale3> ii libjpeg62-turbo:amd64 1:1.5.1-2 amd64
libjpeg-turbo JPEG runtime library
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1064 [08:22:22] <jelly> ,v chromium --arch amd64
1065 [08:22:23] <judd> Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy:
37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1;
jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security:
57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 61.0.3163.100-1~deb9u1;
stretch-proposed-updates: 62.0.3202.89-1~deb9u1; stretch-security:
62.0.3202.89-1~deb9u1; buster: 62.0.3202.89-1; sid: 62.0.3202.89-1;
experimental: 63.0.3239.30-1
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1068 [08:24:14] <pale3> jelly: what is (,v)?
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1072 [08:27:16] <jelly> asking the bot to list versions aviailable
from debian repos at present time
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1074 [08:28:03] <pale3> ohh, nice
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1078 [08:28:52] <pale3> jelly: can you reproduce same?
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1126 [08:49:16] <jelly> pale3: nope, same versions of amd64
packages work fine here. Can you show the output of: ldd
/usr/lib/chromium/chromium|grep jpe
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1128 [08:49:53] <pale3> jelly: libjpeg.so.62 =>
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x00007efd1b8b9000)
1129 [08:50:08] <jelly> that's very old.
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1131 [08:50:30] <jelly> pale3: dpkg -S $(readlink -f
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62)
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1134 [08:51:17] <pale3> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6
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1138 [08:53:22] <jelly> pale3: move that /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6
away from that directory, run "ldconfig" as root, and try
again
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1141 [08:54:30] <pale3> jelly:
1142 [08:54:31] <pale3> thx
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1195 [09:25:12] <stivex> Hi everyone! I'm trying to configure
a camcorder with firewire port (Canon MV960) on Debian Jessie.
I'm trying to use dvgrab or kino apps for capturing video. It
seems that OS detects the PCI card wich it has the firewire port,
but not the camcorder.
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1203 [09:32:31] <RoyK> stivex:
replaced-url
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1227 [09:48:18] <darxmurf> why my XFCE if not showing USB key when
I plug them now ?
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1230 [09:48:26] <darxmurf> I have to mount by hand
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1264 [10:05:24] <darxmurf> back
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1269 [10:07:52] <abff> is it with the same usb key or is it every
different usb storage device
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1277 [10:08:56] <darxmurf> fixed, I installed gvfs and all good
now
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1282 [10:09:12] <darxmurf> I lost some packages the other day
after a weird apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade
1283 [10:09:27] <darxmurf> maybe gvfs went away too at this time
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1289 [10:10:21] <bryanfrommacau> Hi
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1291 [10:10:32] <bryanfrommacau> How can I make xrandr changes
permanent in debian?
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1294 [10:11:48] <abff> darxmurf maybe, but that shouldn't be
necessary, in xfce all of that is under Settings > Removable
Drives and Media
1295 [10:12:06] <Allanis> You can place your xrandr stuff in
.xinitrc
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1306 [10:15:18] <bryanfrommacau> ok I'll try that
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1311 [10:17:28] <darxmurf> abff: yep it was configured correctly
there
1312 [10:17:40] <darxmurf> but apparently it needs gvfs to auto
show the devices
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1322 [10:21:26] <Allanis> All good bryanfrommacau?
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1324 [10:22:07] <richvdh> whois runciter
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1328 [10:22:14] <richvdh> er
1329 [10:22:15] <richvdh> sorry
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1333 [10:23:00] <abff> well done!
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1347 [10:31:58] <mrig> Hello
1348 [10:32:22] <bryaninmacau> I can't find any .xinitrc file
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1350 [10:32:41] <bryaninmacau> should I make one?
1351 [10:33:09] <mrig> I am just running a CD check from the
installer on the 1st installation DVD which I have on a USB key, it
is failing the test. Any thoughts as to how best to proceed.
1352 [10:33:27] <Allanis> bryaninmacau: Yeah, feel free to make
one.
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1354 [10:35:33] <dexta> gm
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1356 [10:35:56] <mrig> I have just run a sha1sum on the iso file
that was used to make the drive and that is fine.
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1368 [10:44:51] <bryaninmacau> Creating the .xinitrc file in the
user directory had no effect
1369 [10:45:01] <bryaninmacau> should it be in a different
location?
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1372 [10:48:50] <Allanis> bryaninmacau: Yes, xinitrc lives in your
user directory. It might need some additional configuration.
I'm sorry I'm at work so I can't really help
extensively.
1373 [10:49:03] <sillyslux> bryaninmacau, you also have to put
your xrandr commands in there
1374 [10:49:25] <Allanis> You could also try ~/.xsession though to
start it upon launching X.
1375 [10:50:10] <bryaninmacau> I see a .xsession-errors file, but
no .xsession file
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1378 [10:52:04] <sillyslux> also my wm supports .xprofile :/
1379 [10:52:22] <bryaninmacau> Does it make a difference if
I'm using lxde?
1380 [10:52:27] <sillyslux> an other thing you could do is
configuring lightdm
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1383 [10:53:04] <Allanis> bryaninmacau: That doesn't make any
difference no.
1384 [10:53:39] <sillyslux> i use greeter-setup-script =
/etc/lightdm/screen_setup.sh and do it from there
1385 [10:53:52] <CyberManifest> are the proper permissions in
place?
1386 [10:53:57] <bryaninmacau> That will run automatically?
1387 [10:54:03] <bryaninmacau> Anything that will work will be
fine
1388 [10:54:21] <bryaninmacau> right now I just manually run a
shell script every time I boot
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1390 [10:54:29] <sillyslux> the greeter-setup-script is run
automatically
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1393 [10:55:25] <Allanis> Doesn't arandr create any startup
scripts I wonder?
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1395 [10:55:35] <sillyslux> it's defined after [Seat:*]
autologin-stuff
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1397 [10:56:05] <sillyslux> if you want autologin
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1399 [10:56:29] <sillyslux> just make sure [Seat:*] is the section
in your config
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1401 [10:57:17] <sillyslux> i also use session-setup-script with
the same file, dunno if that's needed
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1410 [11:01:42] <jeanjack> hi there
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1412 [11:02:28] <jeanjack> i'm upgrading a server from jessie
to stretch. I have issues with the rpcbind packages ...
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1414 [11:03:08] <jeanjack> when i stop the rpcbind service, the
dist-upgrade works, but at reboot I have an error
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1418 [11:04:17] <babilen> One might wonder what that error could
be ;)
1419 [11:04:36] <bryaninmacau> I copied monitorsettings.sh to the
lightdm folder
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1421 [11:04:49] <bryaninmacau> I found the lightdm.conf file, and
the seat section
1422 [11:04:55] <bryaninmacau> but I don't really understand
how to edit it
1423 [11:05:46] <jeanjack> [DEPEND] Dependancy failed for NFS
server and services.
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1426 [11:06:16] <sillyslux> this is the script i use in
lightdm.conf
replaced-url
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1428 [11:07:09] <sillyslux> bryaninmacau, if you're in an
terminal, you can use nano, vi, pico, joe to edit it
1429 [11:07:25] <sillyslux> you'll have to do it as user root
1430 [11:07:40] <bryaninmacau> that url looks like it has your
xrandr settings
1431 [11:07:54] <bryaninmacau> is that really the configuration
file?
1432 [11:08:13] <sillyslux> this script is called from lightdm
1433 [11:08:22] <bryaninmacau> ok
1434 [11:08:32] <bryaninmacau> I have my shell script ready, I
just wasn't sure how to call it
1435 [11:08:57] <nunojpg> on a minimum debootstrap stretch
installation, I see that dhclient is started on boot, and is not
restarted on eth down/up. Who is starting dhclient, and is there a
package to trigger a dhcp lease request just after eth up?
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1439 [11:09:49] <sillyslux> in lightdm.conf find the line that
reads [Seat:*] make sure it's not commented, then add the lines
for greeter-setup-script and seession-setup-script, you can find all
examples in lightdm.conf
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1442 [11:11:38] <sillyslux> nunojpg, you can configure your nic to
do dhcp automatically in /etc/network/interfaces
1443 [11:12:52] <nunojpg> sillyslux, thanks. I am doing that, but
in case the cable is disconnected on boot, than dhclient will sleep
for 5 minutes until it tries again, while on desktop installations
it is triggered as soon as eth comes up
1444 [11:13:02] <sillyslux> like auto enp1s0 \n iface enp1s0 inet
dhcp
1445 [11:13:42] <sillyslux> sleep for 5 minutes? seems oddly long,
dunno about that
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1448 [11:15:00] <sillyslux> by desktop installations i assume you
mean network-manager? there's to little i know about that
either :/
1449 [11:15:16] <moritz_> hello. I am running stretch and tried to
upgrade mpv from backports which uninstalled my nvidia driver. I
removed mpv again and tried to reinstall the nvidia driver but apt
complains about broken packages. Of which there are none.
1450 [11:15:18] <moritz_>
replaced-url
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1452 [11:15:40] <moritz_> (apt-get install nvidia-driver)
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1456 [11:16:39] <nunojpg> sillyslux: yes. Or maybe ConnMan. I was
trying to understand who is getting the kernel event to trigger a
new dhcp request
1457 [11:16:43] <nunojpg> thanks anyway!
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1459 [11:18:03] <bryaninmacau> do I just put the path name after
greeter-setup-script?
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1461 [11:18:11] <bryaninmacau> or just the filename?
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1464 [11:18:16] <sillyslux> the full path
1465 [11:18:51] <sillyslux> like greeter-setup-script =
/etc/lightdm/screen_setup.sh
1466 [11:18:58] <moritz_> Any ideas how to fix this?
1467 [11:19:05] <sillyslux> and the script can be located anywhere
1468 [11:19:20] <petn-randall> !bat
1469 [11:19:20] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
1470 [11:19:30] <petn-randall> moritz_: Can you provide all the
info above in a single paste? ^^^
1471 [11:19:38] <moritz_> Sure a moment.
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1476 [11:21:31] <dff> is it possible to mount a HFS+ file system
on a USB drive with debian using hfsprogs and then have a macos
client read/write to it via smb?
1477 [11:22:06] <bryaninmacau> I think I broke my machine :/
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1479 [11:22:56] <sillyslux> meh, how so?
1480 [11:23:26] <bryaninmacau> When I try to boot up, the screen
just starts flashing
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1483 [11:24:46] <moritz_> petn-randall:
replaced-url
1484 [11:24:50] <moritz_> Thank you very much.
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1486 [11:24:56] <sillyslux> use ctrl-alt-f1 to switch to a
terminal and fix or revert the changes you made to your lightdm.conf
1487 [11:25:38] <sillyslux> and/or your setup script
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1489 [11:25:56] <rom1v> hi
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1499 [11:28:31] <bryaninmacau> ok, back to normal o.o
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1502 [11:30:49] <bryaninmacau> my file just had xrandr --newmode,
and xrandr --addmode lines
1503 [11:31:02] <sillyslux> no shebang?
1504 [11:31:16] <bryaninmacau> oh
1505 [11:31:17] <bryaninmacau> no
1506 [11:31:25] <sillyslux> see the 1st line in mine
1507 [11:31:51] <bryaninmacau> So if I add that, it might work?
1508 [11:31:56] <sillyslux> yes
1509 [11:32:10] <bryaninmacau> ok, I'll give it a try
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1511 [11:32:33] <bryaninmacau> gtg, thanks for the help!
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1519 [11:35:17] <dff> anyone in here have experience with
hfsprogs?
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1527 [11:42:13] <jeanjack> can be my issue from the systemd mounts
?
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1531 [11:44:21] <gladioacuto> hello everybody
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1536 [11:46:14] <gladioacuto> BIOS is last-updated on my Lenovo
Thinkpad X1 Carbon 5th gen, running stretch. However I get those
horrible lines in dmesg, how to fix? Expecially for CPU temp...even
it does not seem to overheat and to oversteer the fan..please help.
replaced-url
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1541 [11:49:15] <gun1x> guys, i found within /var/lib/libvirt/qemu
aes master keys and monitor sockets for all deleted VMs. are these
still needed ?
1542 [11:49:52] <petn-randall> moritz_: Ah, you're running a
mix of stable/testing/unstable. It's not recommended to mix
those. My first guess is that you have some library installed from
testing/sid that nvidia-driver depends on somewhere down the
dependency chain.
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1546 [11:50:46] <petn-randall> moritz_: What you can do is try
running 'apt install nvidia-driver-libs' and check what
dependency fails to install, then run 'apt install
<failed_dependency>', and repeat until you find the
cause.
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1548 [11:51:42] <moritz_> i will paste the aptitude output it is
more informative. libglvnd0 is the problem.
1549 [11:51:46] * moritz_ is rebooting
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1553 [11:53:30] <petn-randall> moritz_: Is there a reason
you've got testing/sid in your sources.list?
1554 [11:53:47] <moritz_> Yes. remmina-rdp. Nothing else.
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1565 [11:56:50] <petn-randall> moritz_: The better way is to make
a backport, it's quite simple.
1566 [11:56:56] <petn-randall> ,v remmina-rdp
1567 [11:56:57] <judd> No package named 'remmina-rdp'
was found in amd64.
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1569 [11:57:23] <petn-randall> ,v remmina-plugin-rdp
1570 [11:57:24] <judd> Package: remmina-plugin-rdp on amd64 --
wheezy: 1.0.0-4+deb7u1; jessie: 1.1.1-2; stretch-backports:
1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1; buster: 1.2.0-rcgit.24-3; sid:
1.2.0-rcgit.24-3
1571 [11:57:34] <petn-randall> moritz_: ^^^ do you mean this
package?
1572 [11:57:54] <moritz_> :) Yes. Wasn't in backports when i
needed it.
1573 [11:57:54] <gun1x> guys, anyone ?
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1576 [11:58:52] <moritz_> Aptitude output:
replaced-url
1577 [12:00:13] <moritz_> In my defense i never had a mixed system
break. But i never did it on a machine that needed the proprietary
nvidia driver.
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1582 [12:01:59] <petn-randall> moritz_: I'd then remove
testing and sid fro sources.list, and then install the backports
version of remmina-plugin-rdp, then downgrade any other packages
that got accidentally pulled in from testing.
1583 [12:02:03] <petn-randall> !downgrade
1584 [12:02:03] <dpkg> Downgrading is not, nor will ever be
supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that
can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support
upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try:
"dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install
package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to
get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>,
<unstable->testing>, <sdo>.
1585 [12:02:21] <petn-randall> moritz_: If it's only 1-2
packages, chances are good that you can get away with it.
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1588 [12:03:15] <petn-randall> moritz_: You can do that by
temporarily pinning stable with priority 1001, and taking a close
look at what packages get downgraded.
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1595 [12:06:07] <notabot_> Hello all - trying to figure out how I
can install openswan on Debian Jessie - any pointers?
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1599 [12:07:05] <moritz_> petn-randall: like this?
replaced-url
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1602 [12:08:56] <gpunk>
replaced-url
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1605 [12:10:22] <moritz_> Because it does not offer me any up or
downgrades .
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1607 [12:12:20] <notabot_> gpunk: Thanks - I saw few options for
StrongSwan - however, is it possible to install openswan on Debian
is what I was specifically looking for.
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1609 [12:12:52] <gpunk> yes you can bro
1610 [12:13:31] <petn-randall> moritz_: does 'apt-cache
policy' show a 1001 priority?
1611 [12:13:52] <petn-randall> moritz_: You could also try
'apt-cach policy libc6', the stretch package should be
1001.
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1615 [12:17:13] <notabot_> gpunk: apt-get doesnt work for
openswan, I downloaded the source code for openswan, extracted and
run the two install commands (make programs and make install) -
it's not getting install - which openvpn doesn't give any
output.
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1617 [12:18:07] <gpunk> make programs ? openvpn ? what are talking
about ?
1618 [12:18:19] <petn-randall> !doesnt work
1619 [12:18:19] <dpkg> "Doesn't work" is a vague
statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it
procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for
change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it
isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without
needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error
message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco>
and <errors>.
1620 [12:18:22] <gpunk> just add contrib to your source list
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1622 [12:18:25] <petn-randall> ,v openswan
1623 [12:18:27] <judd> Package: openswan on amd64 -- wheezy:
1:2.6.37-3+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 1:2.6.37-3+deb7u1
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1625 [12:19:09] <gpunk> brb
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1627 [12:19:26] <moritz_> policy does not know a 1001 prio.
petn-randall
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1629 [12:19:44] <moritz_> *display
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1631 [12:20:05] <petn-randall> notabot_: Maybe tell us about the
goal you're trying to accomplish, that would allow us to
provide better solutions to your problem.
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1636 [12:21:28] <petn-randall> moritz_: Maybe you have other pins
that are overriding this?
1637 [12:21:55] <notabot_> petn-randall: Mainly research and
learning - I was trying to follow this tutorial on debian jessie -
replaced-url
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1639 [12:22:34] <moritz_> No other pins. a=stretch vs n=stretch is
unlikely an issue, right?
1640 [12:23:34] <moritz_> Does not change the situation.
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1643 [12:24:14] <petn-randall> moritz_: a=stable?
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1646 [12:25:18] <moritz_> nope
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1651 [12:26:56] <moritz_> No results for testing or unstable when
searching: aptitude search '~S ~i ~Aunstable'
1652 [12:27:13] <moritz_> Which is weird because of libglvnd0
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1666 [12:31:36] <L3gacy> Getting a HP DL360 G7. Is Debian 9 a good
choice for LAMP?
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1677 [12:36:08] <dTal> does the 'P' stand for PHP or
Perl?
1678 [12:36:32] <dTal> Either one is a questionable choice in 2017
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1680 [12:36:56] <moritz_> petn-randall: Thank you very much for
your help and patience. While i am still unable to install the
driver meta package. I now have by the resolution power aptitude the
full GPU support and nvidia driver. And no obvious broken packages
or upgrade trouble. So i leave it at this.
1681 [12:37:12] <moritz_> @everyone thanks for being around and
have a nice day
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1702 [12:50:11] <petn-randall> moritz_: You're welcome! Glad
you got it fixed.
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1704 [12:50:58] <petn-randall> L3gacy: Really depends on your
application. Debian stretch ships with PHP 7, so if you have legacy
applications that only run with PHP 5, it might not be the best
choice.
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1706 [12:51:31] <gpunk> it ships with both
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1709 [12:52:48] <petn-randall> gpunk: Can you prove that please?
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1711 [12:53:09] <gpunk> i have a server , stretch, that runs 5
sites with php5
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1713 [12:53:24] <petn-randall> gpunk: Sure, but you didn't
get php5 from Debian.
1714 [12:53:32] <petn-randall> *Debian stretch
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1716 [12:53:57] <gpunk> no , from debian stretch :)
1717 [12:54:08] <petn-randall> gpunk: Which packages?
1718 [12:54:20] <gpunk> php5...
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1720 [12:54:53] <petn-randall> ,v php5
1721 [12:54:54] <judd> Package: php5 on amd64 -- wheezy:
5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u11; jessie:
5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1
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1723 [12:55:03] <petn-randall> gpunk: It's not in stretch. ^^
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1729 [12:57:30] <moritz_> gpunk: maybe from
replaced-url
1730 [12:58:02] <gpunk> no, it s an upgrade from jessie
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1732 [12:58:24] <moritz_> pinned?
1733 [12:58:33] <gpunk> i guess
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1737 [12:59:41] <gpunk> anyway, you can run PHP5 sites with
stretch ...
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1739 [12:59:46] <gpunk> you just have ... to fiddle
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1747 [13:07:51] <petn-randall> gpunk: Sure, but at this point
it's not supported in #debian anymore.
1748 [13:08:08] <gpunk> i know :)
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1750 [13:11:08] <babilen> I'd keep those sites on jessie,
upgrade the codebase to run with php7 (you have to anyway) and
*then* upgrade to stretch and php7
1751 [13:11:34] <babilen> Why is it *always* PHP? It's almost
as if they intentionally make sure that upgrading from one version
to the next is a major pain in the arse
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1753 [13:11:45] <babilen> (minor version that is!)
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1782 [13:30:53] <ZSky> Hi
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1785 [13:31:45] <kde2535> Friends, yesterday I asked for help
regarding my laptop heating up only in debain even while idle and
not at all while using other distributions like fedora and ubuntu. I
got suggestion to try cpupower and I throttled cpu to minimum with
it but it was still heating up. Today I tried installing proprietary
firmware from non-free repository for cpu, gpu and ethernet (just in
case!), and after few hours of usage and observation (lm-sensors),
it seems to have
1786 [13:31:47] <kde2535> worked. Its not heating anymore. Though
undesirable, its better than frying my laptop. I read similar thread
on debian forum which was unresolved. So, in case if someone else
also have similar issue than it could be a possible solution for
them.
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1788 [13:32:07] <ZSky> When someone sends mail to
"hello@198.51.100.0", let's say 198.51.100.0 is my IP
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1791 [13:32:17] <ZSky> what happens? who collects the email?
1792 [13:32:24] <ZSky> by default on a debian
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1794 [13:32:45] <gpunk> exim I think
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1796 [13:33:07] <gpunk> but will reject it
1797 [13:33:13] <gpunk> no hello user
1798 [13:33:23] <ZSky> not postfix?
1799 [13:33:35] <gpunk> it is not installed by default
1800 [13:33:38] <gpunk> it s exim
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1803 [13:33:58] <gpunk> unless they changed in stretch
1804 [13:33:59] <jelly> ZSky: that's an invalid email address
1805 [13:34:23] <ZSky> how to redirect all *@ip to
myaddress@gmail.com ?
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1812 [13:35:17] <jim> kde2535, which part is undesirable?
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1814 [13:35:56] <ZSky> gpunk: i tried to send a mail to
root@<myip> from gmail
1815 [13:35:59] <kde2535> the proprietary blob part ;)
1816 [13:36:10] <ZSky> gpunk: then i entered "mail" in
bash, but I don't see it
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1818 [13:36:11] <gpunk> and ?
1819 [13:36:44] <ZSky> any idea why?
1820 [13:36:49] <gpunk> toto@$IP is not really a valid email
address
1821 [13:36:52] <syslq> dns directive in interfaces file is simply
being ignored (dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4) and /etc/resolv.con
is repopulated although I'm trying to remove entries.
(I've disabled network manager). Any idea on what is causing
this?
1822 [13:36:55] <gpunk> gmail didnt send it
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1825 [13:38:46] <ZSky> gpunk: is toto@$IP not allowed ?
1826 [13:38:53] <ZSky> by standard mail protocols?
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1828 [13:39:02] <jim> oh ok
1829 [13:39:02] <gpunk> ypu
1830 [13:39:13] <gpunk> yes*
1831 [13:39:54] <ZSky> so how to send email from gmail or yahoo or
anything else to a server which has just an IP but no domain name
e.g. example.com ?
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1836 [13:41:25] <gpunk> a shell script
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1838 [13:41:46] <gpunk> but smtp has to be configured in the $IP
1839 [13:41:57] <gpunk> a shell script or manually
1840 [13:42:08] <gpunk> by telenetting to port 25 ...
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1842 [13:42:40] <jelly> ZSky: if you want to use an IP literal in
the email address, it should be enclosed in [],
user@[some.ip.add.ress]
1843 [13:42:57] <RoyK> ZSky: quite a few web servers will block
things not from a known domain, so better get a domain and register
a host on it
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1845 [13:43:14] <jelly> ZSky: that's what rfc5321/5322 say.
In practice, not many sender-side tools will support this.
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1847 [13:44:07] <darxmurf> When you find an old website still
alive on an old server and you open the index.html page: <META
content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0"
name=GENERATOR></HEAD><FRAMESET
1848 [13:44:10] <darxmurf> Oo
1849 [13:44:35] <gpunk> darxmurf they usually dont even have a
password set
1850 [13:44:41] <gpunk> these FP enables sites
1851 [13:44:43] <RoyK> darxmurf: I remember a script made to fix
such pages, it was called "demoronizer"
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1853 [13:45:01] <ZSky> gpunk: i have domain names, but here
it's just for a test, on a sandbox server
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1855 [13:45:04] <ZSky> without any domain
1856 [13:45:35] <RoyK> well, register somebloodytest.your.tld,
then
1857 [13:45:40] <RoyK> it's just a dns entry
1858 [13:46:19] <gpunk> from all the questions you'r asking
1859 [13:46:29] <CrtxReavr> I have to script the creation of a
user. . . I just want to specify the username & UID, which is
working fine, but I'm getting prompted for password, real name,
phone number, etc. . . how can I just create the user with useradd
or adduser, have no password (installing a public ssh key) and not
bother with the other crap?
1860 [13:46:33] <gpunk> i think you dont even have smtp configured
1861 [13:46:48] <ZSky> gpunk: it's a default Debian
1862 [13:46:51] <ZSky> isn't it installed by default?
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1864 [13:47:11] <gpunk> see if it s running , lsof -i | 25
1865 [13:47:22] <gpunk> |grep 25 *
1866 [13:47:29] <ZSky> nothing, right
1867 [13:47:32] <ZSky> so no smtp installed
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1869 [13:47:39] <ZSky> i should probab install postfix right?
1870 [13:47:46] <gpunk> only local delivery
1871 [13:47:57] <gpunk> I prefer postfix
1872 [13:48:02] <gpunk> thats what I use
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1875 [13:48:17] <ZSky> which one is the most common, as of 2017?
1876 [13:48:31] <gpunk> gmail
1877 [13:48:35] <gpunk> lol
1878 [13:48:49] <nulleip> has the package intel-microcode anything
to do with CVE-2017-5706 and CVE-2017-5709 ?
1879 [13:48:50] <gpunk> I think postfix
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1882 [13:49:43] <josecapurro> ZSky: postfix
1883 [13:49:54] <jelly> !cve lookup CVE-2017-5706
1884 [13:49:55] <dpkg> Information about the security advisory
CVE-2017-5706 may be found at
replaced-url
1885 [13:49:55] <ZSky> postfix sendmail qmail exim => the most
well known is postfix right?
1886 [13:50:14] <RoyK> gpunk: or the modern way, 'ss -tlp
sport = :smtp' ;)
1887 [13:50:21] <RoyK> qmail?!?!?
1888 [13:50:29] <RoyK> that's long dead
1889 [13:50:35] <jelly> ZSky: probably, even tho debian defaults
to exim4
1890 [13:50:39] <jelly> ,v qmail
1891 [13:50:40] <judd> Package: qmail on amd64 -- jessie: 1.06-5;
wheezy: 1.06-5; buster: 1.06-6+b1; sid: 1.06-6+b1; stretch:
1.06-6+b1
1892 [13:50:45] <jelly> RoyK: it'sjust resting
1893 [13:50:47] <bezaban> a 2015 survery reported out of 1,086,906
servers with banners 53% exim and 30.25% postfix
1894 [13:50:57] * RoyK uses postfix
1895 [13:51:10] <bezaban> but that can just mean postfix admins
disable their banners ;)
1896 [13:51:15] * bezaban uses both
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1898 [13:51:33] <gpunk> i was jocking saying Gmail not Qmail
1899 [13:51:36] <josecapurro> I disable the banners. And use
postfix.
1900 [13:51:37] <jelly> you can't disable the banner,
it's part of the protocol...
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1902 [13:51:52] <jelly> you can change it a bit.
1903 [13:51:59] <gpunk> disable the veriosn info only
1904 [13:52:06] <gpunk> lleave the banner
1905 [13:52:08] <josecapurro> jelly: Right. I mean, i do not show
the name of the daemon there
1906 [13:52:24] <bezaban> sure, change name of the mta which was
relevant for the survey
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1910 [13:53:36] <ZSky> to do a "catch them all" forward
*@IP or *@domain to anadress@gmail.com
1911 [13:53:45] <ZSky> should I install exim or postfix, which one
would be easier?
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1914 [13:54:00] <gpunk> ZSky we said postfix
1915 [13:54:27] <jelly> ZSky: don't do a catchall address,
that's not sane.
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1919 [13:55:18] <ZSky> apt-get install postfix i guess?
1920 [13:55:26] <jelly> ZSky: use postfix'
recipient_delimiter and addresses like username-anything@domain
1921 [13:55:26] <gpunk> usually
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1934 [13:59:57] <petn-randall> ZSky: I have the feeling we're
backtracking to your actual problem you're trying to solve. Why
not tell us about that? Sending mails to IP addresses is a wrong in
the first place, same goes for catch-all for mail.
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1939 [14:02:10] <ZSky> petn-randall: @IPvsdomain at the end
I'll use domain instead of IP. It was just for sandboxing
1940 [14:02:27] <jelly> !goal
1941 [14:02:28] <dpkg> Describe your goal, not what you think the
solution is.
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1943 [14:02:31] <ZSky> petn-randall: @catch-all it was just to
test, then I'll do a more proper thing
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1945 [14:02:51] <petn-randall> ZSky: Yes, what is the "more
proper thing" you're trying to accomplish?
1946 [14:02:55] <ZSky> Ok I explain
1947 [14:03:03] <ZSky> I'm launching a small community site
1948 [14:03:37] <ZSky> and I want people to have an email on it,
that redirects to their real email
1949 [14:03:45] <ZSky> See e.g. craigslist
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1952 [14:04:04] <ZSky> you want to answer to an ad? You send a
mail to ad-FDsdf8723@craiglist.org
1953 [14:04:13] <ZSky> and then it redirects to the real email
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1956 [14:04:43] <ZSky> so I have a key=>value database, like
ad-FDsdf8723 => abc@gmail.com
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1959 [14:05:00] <ZSky> and I need to catch ad-FDsdf8723@mydomain
and forward it to abc@gmail.com
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1961 [14:05:07] <ZSky> this is the goal
1962 [14:05:16] <petn-randall> ZSky: If you have a publicly facing
mail server, you 100% DO NOT want to have a catch-all in any form.
It will only take days until that is abused for spam relay, and then
you'll be on every DNSBL on the planet, and getting off will
take you ages.
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1965 [14:05:54] <ZSky> petn-randall: the catchall would only have
been a test to see if i'm able to forward anything to an
external email service
1966 [14:06:02] <ZSky> it was just a test
1967 [14:07:15] <gpunk> i'd do a regular mail server for
x.domain , the play with aliases
1968 [14:07:19] <gpunk> then*
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1970 [14:07:40] <jelly> ZSky: you can't just forward mails
like that in year 2017; to have any kind of decent deliverability
you'll have to rewrite envelope sender, and take care of
bounces that come back. Before that you want to learn what
"envelope sender" and "dkim" and
"dmarc" and "spf" is.
1971 [14:08:07] <jelly> forwards like that have been mostly broken
for a few years now.
1972 [14:08:08] <ZSky> I already use SPF, DKIM etc. for my other
servers
1973 [14:08:19] <ZSky> so this is ok
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1975 [14:08:49] <ZSky> gpunk can you explain?
1976 [14:08:54] <gpunk> simple aliases will do it
1977 [14:08:58] <ZSky> petn-randall: do you see my goal?
1978 [14:09:05] <jelly> fine, but your mails will end up in spam
folders or undelivered
1979 [14:09:20] <ZSky> jelly: I'll use SPF, DKIM etc.
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1981 [14:10:05] <gpunk> in the alias files you have a list :
from-username to-username
1982 [14:10:23] <petn-randall> ZSky: I find that approach a bit
cumbersome. Why not have a web form where you can type an answer and
have to solve a captcha?
1983 [14:10:39] <gpunk> to-username can be an address
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1985 [14:11:04] <petn-randall> ZSky: Then you don't have to
play around with mail relaying, etc.
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1988 [14:11:32] <petn-randall> Or rather, you don't have to
solve the hard problem of relaying mail in a safe and proper fashion
without landing on a DNSBL.
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1991 [14:12:56] <jelly> ZSky: you can't use SPF unless you
own the sender domain. This means simple aliases / forwards
won't work for your use case.
1992 [14:13:26] <petn-randall> this ^
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1995 [14:14:24] <jelly> ZSky: eg. someone from gmail will send
mail to <ad-34701@zsky.example.org>; if you forward that as-is
with a simple virtual alias, your server will send out mail with
original envelope sender, @gmail.com
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1997 [14:15:49] <jelly> ZSky: so now there's a mail coming
from your server IP, and saying "I come from gmail
sender". Gmail publishes its own SPF and dmarc, where they say
"this is not my IP" and your forwarded message is regarded
as spam, and your server IP is regarded as source of spam
1998 [14:16:20] <ForceRecon> does anyone have any information on
how to send smtp mail with a pty console attachment
1999 [14:16:41] <gpunk> you mean manually ?
2000 [14:16:47] <jelly> ForceRecon: use mutt or snail
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2002 [14:16:56] <ForceRecon> I was just reading that..
2003 [14:17:06] <ForceRecon> thanks..
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2005 [14:17:23] <jelly> echo test | mutt -s "test
subject" -a example.zip -- recipient@example.org
2006 [14:17:45] <ForceRecon> will it know which smtp server to use
to get out?
2007 [14:17:50] <jelly> no
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2009 [14:17:54] <ZSky> jelly: ok i see what you mean
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2011 [14:18:06] <ZSky> then I can outsource the email relaying
(e.g. sendgrid or others)
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2013 [14:18:47] <ZSky> but first I need a way to receive emails
from ad-34701@zsky.example.org and redirect it to a python script or
PHP, that will then call Sendgrid to do the work
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2015 [14:19:40] <jelly> ForceRecon: you will have to configure
mutt to use correct, existing sender address (set from=... in
muttrc), and use local MTA or configure mutt to use your existing
authenticated outgoing smtp server (set smtp_url...)
2016 [14:19:54] <petn-randall> ZSky: Why is it important the
message comes via SMTP? That's not good from a UX perspective,
especially when there's a web page where your users are coming
from.
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2019 [14:20:15] <ForceRecon> jelly, you are so the person.. thanks
I will read up on it
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2021 [14:22:39] <fast> I'm Running an apt mirror on debian
wheezy. I also have two machines connecting to the mirror, one
running jessie and the other one running stretch. When I execute
apt-get update on jessie everything is working as expected. When
doing the same on the stretch machine apt-get update fails with
"The following signatures were invalid <MYKEYID>". I
checked that the key is imported, I also checked the release notes
2022 [14:22:45] <fast> fore the requirements for APT repositories.
I made checked that the InRelease file exists, it has SHA256
checksums and the key is long enough. Any hints on this issue?
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2024 [14:24:46] <ZSky> petn-randall: it has to be done via email
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2030 [14:25:37] <bolovanos_> why is that "ls -l" does
not list ".dir" ? debian 9...
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2033 [14:26:06] <gpunk> ls -la ?
2034 [14:26:23] <bolovanos_> yes it did the trick
2035 [14:26:24] <bolovanos_> thank you
2036 [14:26:39] <jelly> why? because it's not supposed to
2037 [14:27:00] <petn-randall> ZSky: Where does this requirement
come from?
2038 [14:27:05] <petn-randall> !bat
2039 [14:27:05] <dpkg> In order to troubleshoot your problem with
apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information:
1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the
command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1
pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem,
and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use
replaced-url
2040 [14:27:22] <petn-randall> fast: Can you provide all of the
info above for the affected machine in a single paste? ^^^
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2050 [14:32:38] <jeanjack> so i had to apt-get remove and install
nfs-common
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2052 [14:32:49] <bolovanos_> on debian 9 is git-core obsolete -
should I use git instead?
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2056 [14:34:10] <petn-randall> bolovanos_: The description of
git-core says it all.
2057 [14:34:45] <bolovanos_> petn-randall, right
replaced-url
2058 [14:34:47] <bolovanos_> thx
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2066 [14:38:32] <ZSky> News: I added an MX record to a domain I
have
2067 [14:38:45] <ZSky> so I should be able to send to
roo@example.com now
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2070 [14:39:03] <ZSky> After apt-get install postfix and config, I
still have none in lsof -i | grep 25
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2072 [14:39:43] <jeanjack> ZSky: maybe you just configured for
secure-only connection ?
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2075 [14:39:55] <ZSky> I did default config
2076 [14:40:01] <ZSky> and then "postfix start"
2077 [14:40:07] <ZSky> but lsof -i | grep 25 still gives none
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2079 [14:40:51] <syslq> On debian disabling NetworkManager deletes
the /etc/resolv.conf and file can not be recreated manually, also
nameserver directive is ignored in /etc/network/interfaces. Enabling
NetworkManager and give it control of interfaces specified in
/etc/network/interfaces works, and also resolv.conf is poulated
according to directive in interfaces file. Is this normal behaviour
or bug?
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2084 [14:41:18] <tobias__> hey guys, which programming language do
you recommend to start with, when you want to become a linux
sysadmin ?
2085 [14:41:31] <tarzeau_> tobias__: bash, perl, c
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2087 [14:41:59] <tarzeau_> tobias__: depending on the sysadmin
part, you might want to learn build systems, ./configure/make/make
install; cmake, scons, bazel etc...
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2090 [14:42:28] <tarzeau_> tobias__: and packaging systems, dpkg
rpm pip spack snap flatpak cpan...
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2092 [14:43:59] <tobias__> ok thanks, i am going to start with C
2093 [14:45:16] <petn-randall> tobias__: Probably also python now
that Perl is slowly fading out.
2094 [14:45:57] <CrtxReavr> I have to script the creation of a
user. . . I just want to specify the username & UID, which is
working fine, but I'm getting prompted for password, real name,
phone number, etc. . . how can I just create the user with useradd
or adduser, have no password (installing a public ssh key) and not
bother with the other crap?
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2096 [14:46:39] <petn-randall> !tell ZSky -about crosspost
2097 [14:47:18] <petn-randall> !tell ZSky -about crosspost
2098 [14:47:24] <tobias__> petn-randall look at /etc/defaults
2099 [14:47:31] <ZSky> petn-randall: i went there because
it's more postfix specific and didn't want to annoy about
it here
2100 [14:47:33] <tarzeau_> CrtxReavr: useradd instead of adduser
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2104 [14:48:06] <petn-randall> tobias1: ... and do what there?
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2121 [14:57:22] <m1m1r> Does anyone give me a hint, how to debug
dpkg-buildpackage, where I get different errors of dpkg-shlibdeps
each time I'm runing it?
2122 [14:57:38] <m1m1r> Sorry, I ment "Can anyone"
2123 [14:57:39] <CrtxReavr> tarzeau_, thanks - this seems to do
the trick: useradd -u 1999 -m -s /bin/bash sotfback
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2138 [15:02:14] <petn-randall> m1m1r: You could ask in
#debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net, where they help out people with
packaging efforts.
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2143 [15:03:09] <m1m1r> petn-randall: thx hadn't heard of
them
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2167 [15:17:59] <darxmurf> how can I my downloaded firefox binary
in alternatives ?
2168 [15:18:16] <darxmurf> I tried: update-alternatives --install
/etc/alternatives/x-replaced-url
2169 [15:18:22] <darxmurf> but it's not listed then
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2178 [15:22:39] <tarzeau_> darxmurf: try update-alternatives
--install /etc/alternatives/x-replaced-url
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2183 [15:23:43] <Tybor> ~/close
2184 [15:23:49] <Tybor> ~/close
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2186 [15:24:03] <RedSoxFan07> Is there a *nix equivalent to the
pathping command on Windows?
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2194 [15:32:35] <petn-randall> RedSoxFan07: I think it would help
to explain what pathping does.
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2203 [15:37:03] <tw> mtr is probably close.
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2205 [15:40:24] <RedSoxFan07> tw: Thanks.
2206 [15:41:00] <jhutchins> RedSoxFan07: pathping might also be
available.
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2214 [15:51:25] <darxmurf> update-alternatives: error: alternative
link /etc/alternatives/x-replaced-url
2215 [15:51:28] <darxmurf> hmm
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2249 [16:05:48] <introom> =apt show iptables= shows it's
manually installed.
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2252 [16:06:09] <introom> but grepping /var/log/apt/history.log
doesn't show up any iptables entry.
2253 [16:06:11] <introom> how come ?
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2255 [16:06:51] <jelly> ,i iptables
2256 [16:06:52] <judd> Package iptables (net, important) in
stretch/amd64: administration tools for packet filtering and NAT.
Version: 1.6.0+snapshot20161117-6; Size: 280.8k; Installed: 1528k;
Homepage:
replaced-url
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2258 [16:07:29] <jelly> introom: if you installed standard task,
you got packages with Priority: important, and iptables is one of
those
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2261 [16:08:29] <jelly> things debian-installer installed appear
as manually installed (though maybe not all of them)
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2273 [16:13:30] <stuffo> test
2274 [16:13:35] <stuffo>
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2278 [16:16:04] <introom> jelly: looks like the tasksel tool
remains on disk even after installation.
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2283 [16:18:25] <introom> and also doing: 'tasksel
--task-packages standard' on my computer gives nothing.
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2295 [16:22:42] <introom> ok. it remains because the
'standard' includes tasksel itself. the detailed packages
can be shown from aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant
-F%p
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2304 [16:25:12] <petn-randall> I've been noticing long
delays/hangs in the UI of firefox-esr with the last update. It
doesn't respond to clicks on the web page, or doesn't
respond to tab switches, after ~10 seconds it's back to normal.
I noticed that on two separate stretch machines. Does anyone else
experience this?
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2309 [16:26:05] <RedSoxFan07> petn-randall: Yeah!
2310 [16:26:23] <RedSoxFan07> petn-randall: On Debian Buster, but
not OS X. Buttery smooth on OS X.
2311 [16:27:10] <RedSoxFan07> petn-randall: Debian Buster on my PC
is still somehow running Firefox 52.7 or something like that. And
yet I was able to upgrade it on my Mac to version 57.
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2314 [16:30:34] <tw> umatrix isn't available for ESR anymore,
so I've stopped installing it. On a clean install of
ff-esr52.5.0, I don't see what you're seeing... at least
not immediately.
2315 [16:30:46] <abd5932> Hello, did anybody hear about
Linux.BackDoor.Hook.1 ? Is this authentic (
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2321 [16:32:13] <petn-randall> RedSoxFan07: Well, ESR is simply
52, so if you have that installed, you won't get 57.
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2323 [16:32:40] <tw> abd5932: it's probably a custom version
designed for the exploit.
2324 [16:33:01] <petn-randall> abd5932: Are you asking if malware
exists on Linux? Sure. Is it shipped with Debian? No.
2325 [16:35:23] <abd5932> thanks!
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2334 [16:39:17] <fast> If any one cares got the mirror issue
fixed. Problem was that sha1 was SHA1 was still enabled as digest
algo in the key. SHA-1 was dropped in the apt release in stretch.
Solution was to disable sha1 in the gpg.conf and resign the
repoistory.
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2343 [16:41:39] <petn-randall> fast: Your mirror re-signs the
packages?
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2348 [16:43:41] <babilen> aptly (annoyingly) does that still
2349 [16:44:24] <fast> not sure what you mean by re-signs its not
a debian mirror its a mirror with our own packages.
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2380 [16:52:43] <petn-randall> fast: Oh, then I wouldn't call
it "mirro", but simply "repo(sitory)".
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2412 [17:03:22] <dokma> Swapping annoys the heck out of me. I just
did syytemctl stop dphys-swapfile.service and now everything is
snappy even after a long wait.
2413 [17:03:56] <dokma> When my swap is on debian prolly swaps out
stuff that is not doing anything, like my system menu or application
finder.
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2416 [17:04:13] <dokma> But then when I need them something needs
to be unswapped to start them.
2417 [17:04:25] <dokma> And it's making stuff annoyingly
laggy.
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2419 [17:05:14] <dokma> Is there any middle ground?
2420 [17:05:26] <dokma> My swappines is set to 60.
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2424 [17:05:32] <mspo> set it to 0
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2426 [17:05:42] <mspo> or 1
2427 [17:05:47] <dokma> mspo: is that the same as disabling swap?
2428 [17:05:52] <mspo> dokma: no
2429 [17:06:08] <dokma> no for both or only for 1 ?
2430 [17:06:10] <mspo> dokma: swap's traditional role as
overflow memory should still function
2431 [17:06:14] <mspo> with 0 or 1
2432 [17:06:17] <dokma> I see
2433 [17:06:22] <mspo> swappiness is the paging out bit
2434 [17:06:22] <dokma> I'll try 1 first
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2437 [17:06:40] <mspo> oh oops
2438 [17:06:46] <mspo> newer kernels use 1
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2440 [17:06:59] <dokma> didn't know that
2441 [17:07:03] <mspo> 0 *does* disable swap in 3.X+
2442 [17:07:41] <dokma> I'm on 4.9.30
2443 [17:07:48] <mspo> yeah try 1
2444 [17:07:54] <dokma> I'll try 1 and see how it goes
2445 [17:08:31] <dokma> echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
2446 [17:08:37] <dokma> sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=1
2447 [17:08:41] <dokma> I guess that is enough
2448 [17:08:53] <mspo> one of them should have been fine I think
:)
2449 [17:09:02] <dokma> just for good measure
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2451 [17:09:34] <dokma> TX
2452 [17:09:40] <dokma> We'll see how it acts now
2453 [17:09:58] <dokma> ALT+F2 and Whisker menu are instant now...
2454 [17:10:13] <dokma> But I tried them a few minutes ago so
we'll see when I come back home...
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2458 [17:13:39] <mspo> it takes a few minutes for everything to
re-settle
2459 [17:13:49] <mspo> did you re-enable the swapfile service?
(whatever that does)
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2479 [17:24:47] <bolovanos> argh
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2491 [17:29:21] <bolovanos> what on earth could change? Last thing
I have installed was git, than shutdown -> after restart - I
cannot sudo su - "Authentication failure" through putty
2492 [17:29:34] <bolovanos> I can do it machine console
2493 [17:30:06] <bolovanos> I have forbidden root login, but sudo
su was working - even over ssh
2494 [17:30:13] <_ppp> anyone familiar with kaltura?
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2499 [17:31:06] <bolovanos> what can I do to reenable sudo su over
ssh, what happend that it stopped working?
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2512 [17:36:15] <bolovanos> ok got it
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2514 [17:36:24] <inSync> bolovanos: sudo -s or sudo -i
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2516 [17:37:01] <bolovanos> it is problem with session logged
through ssh key
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2519 [17:37:20] <bolovanos> there I cannot use sudo su - is this
std behaviour?
2520 [17:37:44] <bolovanos> must qout that I do not use password
for that key...
2521 [17:38:28] <inSync> don't know, really, but you could
get away with sudo -i or sudo -s
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2526 [17:41:20] <bolovanos> inSync, running it as a target user
(-i) does not work either (dno if it is caused by the fact that I
have disabled root login...)
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2528 [17:41:36] <bolovanos> inSync, what is -s - I have found -S
in help only
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2534 [17:42:56] <bolovanos> ok - sudo -i also works only on
session logged through password
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2536 [17:43:50] <inSync> Run the shell specified by the SHELL
environment variable if it is set or the shell specified by the
invoking user's password database entry. If a command is
specified, it is passed to the shell for execution via the
shell's -c option. If no command is specified, an interactive
shell is executed.
2537 [17:44:12] <inSync> from sudo manual page
2538 [17:44:22] <inSync> sudo -s
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2540 [17:45:11] <bolovanos> right - was looking on --help only,
which is a bit sparse for this switch
2541 [17:45:48] <bolovanos> but same song with -s
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2620 [18:22:29] <ertes-w> is there a way to restore one particular
file from a package?
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2627 [18:23:45] <ertes-w> from an installed package that is
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2629 [18:24:07] <jelly> ertes-w: no. is it a conffile? Which path,
which package?
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2634 [18:26:57] <PlainDave> I've successfully installed
Debian 9.2.1, but I can't get connected to my wifi signal.
I've entered all of the SSID, BSSID, etc., but to no avail.
2635 [18:27:24] <inSync> PlainDave: you could have a missing
firmware
2636 [18:27:54] <jelly> ertes-w: if it's a normal file you
can just reinstall the same version over. If it's a conffile
there are other options (read: /msg dpkg confnew, /msg dpkg
confmiss)
2637 [18:28:13] <jelly> PlainDave: which wireless card are you
using
2638 [18:28:17] <jelly> !whats my wireless
2639 [18:28:18] <dpkg> Install the hwinfo package and execute
"/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or
replaced-url
2640 [18:28:42] <PlainDave> !whats my wireless
2641 [18:28:42] <dpkg> Install the hwinfo package and execute
"/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or
replaced-url
2642 [18:28:56] <ertes-w> jelly: ok, thanks… it's
already solved, and sorry for not being responsive (time pressure)
2643 [18:29:20] <jelly> k, no problem
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2645 [18:29:43] <PlainDave> inSync, How do I go about getting
firmware? Could it be firmware for my wifi card?
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2650 [18:30:49] <PlainDave> !whats my hardware
2651 [18:30:49] <dpkg> You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia,
lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw, or even dmesg to find out
what kind of hardware your machine might have, or you could crack
the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! If you install lshw, run
"lshw -html > myhardware.html" as root and you'll
have a nice HTML summation. See also <myram>, <driver
locator>.
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2654 [18:31:45] <inSync> PlainDave: firsi things first
2655 [18:31:54] <inSync> what's your wireless?
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2657 [18:32:26] <jelly> PlainDave: do you see your wireless card
in "lspci -nn" output? Can you show the exact line
contents (especially the [xxxx:xxxx] part)
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2660 [18:32:36] <PlainDave> inSync, I'll try to find out.
I'm just using the one that came with my laptop (Dell Inspiron
15).
2661 [18:32:53] <PlainDave> okay
2662 [18:33:07] <jelly> we need that to tell you which firmware it
might need
2663 [18:33:44] <jelly> if it's not in "lspci -nn"
it might be in "lsusb"
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2666 [18:35:39] <PlainDave> jelly, Is it this ethernet info?
Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller
[10ec:8136] (rev 07)
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2672 [18:36:37] <jhutchins_wk> ,pciid 10ec:8136
2673 [18:36:38] <judd> [10ec:8136] is 'RTL8101/2/6E PCI
Express Fast Ethernet controller' from 'Realtek
Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'r8169'
in stretch. See also
replaced-url
2674 [18:37:07] <jhutchins_wk> !r8169
2675 [18:37:08] <dpkg> r8169 is a Linux kernel driver supporting
the Realtek RTL8101, RTL8111/8168 and RTL8169 families of gigabit
Ethernet chips. See also <rtl8168d>, <rtl8105e>,
<rtl8402>, <rtl8411>. Not to be confused with the
out-of-tree <r8168> driver.
2676 [18:37:13] <jelly> PlainDave: that looks more like wired
ethernet card.
2677 [18:37:24] <PlainDave> okay
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2680 [18:38:19] <jhutchins_wk> PlainDave: One way to figure out
what firmware you might need is to dmesg | less and search for
"firmware". If it's missing, there should be an error
message when it tries to load.
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2682 [18:38:32] <jelly> or just pastebin complete outputs of both
commands
2683 [18:38:32] <jelly> !paste
2684 [18:38:33] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
2685 [18:38:49] <PlainDave> jhutchins_wk, Okay thanks.
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2732 [18:58:41] <hever> Hello. I'm trying to access only a
specific subnet via a VPN, what already works for me via openvpn.
But if I try to open a ssh connection to that network I just
can't. If I let all traffic go through the VPN I'm able to
connect via SSH. I checked the IP multiple times and it's an IP
of the subnet in the VPN so I don't understand why I can't
connect via VPN. Any ideas?
2733 [18:58:59] <hever> There are no protocol specific settings
or?
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2739 [19:00:41] <peterS> hever: openvpn normally uses a tunnel
network device which you can then use in your routing table. whether
this ends up happening automatically or not depends on your openvpn
setup. But you can create specific routes to specific subnets any
time.
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2743 [19:03:00] <peterS> hever: so, it sounds to me like you have
a routing issue - if the target subnet is, say, 10.6.3.0/24, and
your openvpn endpoint is 10.99.1.2 and the remote end is 10.99.1.1,
you might try adding a route like so: sudo ip route add 10.6.3.0/24
via 10.99.1.1
2744 [19:03:38] <peterS> (run just 'ip route' to see
your current routing table - see if there exists an entry in there
for the target subnet.)
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2753 [19:06:28] <hever> peterS, rounte -n and ip route show both
that the correct subnet should be routed via tun0
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2757 [19:08:33] <hever> peterS, ah ok, it seems to be a openvpn
configure issue...
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2760 [19:10:07] <hever> peterS, I'm using two lines in my
openvpn config "route-nopull" and "route
IP.IP.IP.IP" < here I specified a network IP that
didn't work... if I specify just one IP it wokrs...
2761 [19:10:16] <peterS> hever: ok sounds like you covered that
base. btw you can also use 'ip route get a.b.c.d' to see
the _effect_ of the whole routing table, on a specific target IP
2762 [19:10:20] <hever> any tips how to route a whole network
thorugh vpn?
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2765 [19:11:58] <peterS> hever: according to 'man
openvpn' the syntax is not 'route a.b.c.d/n' as you
would expect, but 'route a.b.c.d 255.255.x.y'
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2787 [19:20:37] <hever> peterS, it seems route- commands are
somehow not allowed in the context I'm using it...
2788 [19:21:51] <peterS> hever: I don't know much about that
... the context I use openvpn, we push routes directly down from the
server and I don't configure any routing on the client side
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2790 [19:22:39] <hever> peterS, thanks anyway! I'm very close
now!
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2792 [19:23:02] <peterS> Good luck!
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2796 [19:23:37] <RoyK> hever: the new way is ip route blabla
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2800 [19:24:03] <RoyK> hever: more concise syntax
2801 [19:24:07] <peterS> RoyK: in openvpn configuration? really?
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2805 [19:24:51] <RoyK> peterS: ip route modifies the same routing
table, but it's got a better syntax
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2808 [19:25:12] <peterS> RoyK: yes but we're not talking
about the command line, we're talking about openvpn
configuration files
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2811 [19:26:07] <hever> it seems route-nopull is not for the
client config but just server
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2813 [19:26:14] <RoyK> peterS: it's always good to start with
the commandline to see if you can fix things temporary that way and
then rewrite the config files accordingly when things work, try a
reboot and then
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2816 [19:27:10] <peterS> RoyK: if you scroll up a bit you might
notice we already went through some 'ip route' command
line stuff
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2824 [19:28:59] <hever> the route stuff seems to work but it seems
again all my traffic is now routet through the VPN
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2856 [19:38:13] <glassres1stor> so i just got a low disk space on
boot partition warning
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2863 [19:40:49] <glassres1stor> all of the files have
4.9.0-0.bpo.2/3/4 on them except one that has 3.16.0-4
2864 [19:40:56] <glassres1stor> what is safe to remove and how?
2865 [19:41:07] <greycat> don't remove files. remove unused
kernel images.
2866 [19:41:20] <greycat> start with dpkg -l | grep linux-image
2867 [19:41:36] <peterS> well or just dpkg -l linux-image-\*
2868 [19:41:47] <peterS> and to see what kernel you're
actually running now, 'uname -r'
2869 [19:41:49] <greycat> that truncates the results
2870 [19:41:57] <greycat> you need dpkg's output to NOT be a
tty
2871 [19:42:17] <peterS> ah yes, I've grown used to wide
terminals, I don't think about that so much anymore
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2875 [19:43:28] <a228> how do i disable xorg for running xorg
-configure?
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2880 [19:44:46] <towo`> a228, disable the autostart of your
display manager
2881 [19:44:47] <glassres1stor> greycat: im running 4.9.0.bpo.3
now and i think when i restart it will be running 4.9.0.bpo.4
2882 [19:45:17] <greycat> if you are never going to boot that
3.16.* kernel you could remove it
2883 [19:45:24] <greycat> or any other images you are never going
to use
2884 [19:45:24] <glassres1stor> greycat: thanks
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2886 [19:45:46] <a228> i need to disable it only for one time towo
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2889 [19:46:17] <greycat> a228: Ctrl-Alt-F2, login, systemctl stop
gdm3 (or whatever *dm you use)
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2891 [19:46:29] <a228> i'm not sure
2892 [19:46:32] <a228> i'm using cinnamon
2893 [19:46:38] <a228> is it under gdm?
2894 [19:46:42] <greycat> gdm3 and lightdm are good starting
guesses
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2897 [19:46:55] <glassres1stor> greycat: so i purged it and got
this error rmdir: failed to remove
‘/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64’: Directory not empty
2898 [19:47:04] <greycat> that's OK
2899 [19:47:19] <greycat> you've got some extra files
lingering there but it won't hurt anything
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2903 [19:48:35] <glassres1stor> greycat: but my boot directory is
still the same size
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2907 [19:49:19] <glassres1stor> greycat: the olddmks files are
still there, ok so actually its 81% and not 98% but still
2908 [19:49:25] <greycat> If your kernel image package was intact,
you should have had a /boot/linux-image-3.16.* file before, and that
should be removed now. So it should have shrunk.
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2910 [19:49:49] <greycat> err, actually it's
/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.* but whatever
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2913 [19:50:10] <greycat> If you had previously removed some of
the files in /boot BY HAND then all bets are off.
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2916 [19:50:26] <glassres1stor> greycat: yeah thats gone but why
is the old dkms stuff there
2917 [19:50:47] <jelly-home> glassres1stor: what kind of dkms
stuff do you have under /boot ??
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2919 [19:50:53] <greycat> because they belong to a different
package, or you built them outside of package management
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2921 [19:51:12] <greycat> also what jelly-home said
2922 [19:51:15] <jelly-home> oh, under /lib/modules
2923 [19:51:38] <glassres1stor> jelly-home: greycat
replaced-url
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2928 [19:52:26] <jelly-home> never seen anything like that
2929 [19:52:29] <greycat> Is that a file you created yourself,
with cp?
2930 [19:52:42] <greycat> Or is this a Debian derivative?
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2934 [19:53:54] <jelly-home> glassres1stor: were you using any
non-deb-packaged dkms modules, like hyperv or vbox extensions or
nvidia driver from their installer?
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2936 [19:54:58] <jelly-home> stuff packaged by debian usually does
not leave initrd copies named like that
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2938 [19:55:10] <zuiss1> i was not able to get the PIA client vpn
running on a clean install of debian 9 even though it installs
successfuly, but everyone is reporting that it works on debian 9
systems upgraded from debian 8 rather than clean install. i
confirmed this is true. anyone know how that could be possible?
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2940 [19:55:38] <jelly-home> glassres1stor: in any case, I think
it's pretty safe to wipe any initrd for a removed vmlinuz
2941 [19:55:56] <greycat> agreed
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2955 [20:06:55] <bolovanos> I would like to configure system to
power of on power button being pressed
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2957 [20:07:09] <bolovanos> is this good approach ?
replaced-url
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2959 [20:07:31] <greycat> err, isn't that already the
default?
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2968 [20:08:58] <bolovanos> dnot know
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2970 [20:09:09] <bolovanos> actually i do not have acpi in /etc
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2974 [20:10:28] <bolovanos> ergo I don't have powerbtw.sh on
my system
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3000 [20:20:28] <Paul--> hello
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3019 [20:26:04] <wonuku> Paul--: eyyyy
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3047 [20:36:28] <Paul--> hello
3048 [20:37:18] <Paul--> what about rwhois comman ? is it relative
to whois ?
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3063 [20:44:59] <jelly-home> Paul--: which package does this
rwhois come in?
3064 [20:45:13] <jelly-home> judd: file bin/rwhois
3065 [20:45:18] <judd> Search for bin/rwhois in stretch/amd64:
socks4-clients: usr/bin/rwhois
3066 [20:45:32] <jelly-home> no idea what THAT is
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3068 [20:46:10] <jelly-home> ,i socks4-clients
3069 [20:46:11] <judd> Package socks4-clients (net, extra) in
stretch/amd64: Socks4 enabled clients as rtelnet and rftp. Version:
4.3.beta2-20+b1; Size: 83.3k; Installed: 287k
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3072 [20:46:43] <jelly-home> Paul--: are you talking about that
one or something else?
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3076 [20:48:01] <Paul--> rwhois
3077 [20:48:17] <jelly-home> Paul--: WHICH rwhois? Where did you
find it?
3078 [20:48:26] <Paul--> so it's different by whois
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3080 [20:48:36] <greycat> it's a seeecret
3081 [20:48:39] <teraflops> xD
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3083 [20:49:08] * jelly-home casts Magic Missile upon the language
barrier
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3085 [20:49:24] <jelly-home> it is not very effective.
3086 [20:49:44] <teraflops> it's like rsh host -l user whois?
:D
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3088 [20:50:15] <jelly-home> Paul--: where did you see this
command mentioned?
3089 [20:50:29] <Paul--> boh
3090 [20:50:40] <Paul--> apropos
3091 [20:50:40] <jelly-home> boh?
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3094 [20:51:14] <jelly-home> Paul--: what is your native language?
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3098 [20:52:25] <jelly-home> most amusingly, I'm using
/usr/bin/whois to guess it based on Paul--'s IP address.
3099 [20:52:39] <jelly-home> !it
3100 [20:52:39] <dpkg> Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto
in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will
get much more help.
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3102 [20:53:01] <teraflops> referral whois?
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3105 [20:53:35] <greycat>
replaced-url
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3111 [20:55:49] <Paul--> rwhois is similar to rfinger ? to know
users logged-in in a system ?
3112 [20:56:05] <Paul--> fingerd was a old service on old linux
versions
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3114 [20:56:24] <Paul--> so whois ad rwhois are completly
different
3115 [20:56:48] <jelly-home> JFTR, I've given up, try asking
in the italian channel if noone else comments
3116 [20:56:50] <greycat> If you can't read the man page due
to a language barrier, I doubt anything I can say will make a
difference.
3117 [20:56:52] <Paul--> shit , I thinked to discover a new
command
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3121 [20:58:02] <Paul--> greycat, to to hello , thx
3122 [20:58:11] <Paul--> go
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3167 [21:19:24] <Paul--> hello
3168 [21:19:42] <Paul--> so rwhois command and rwhois protocol are
different ?
3169 [21:19:53] <greycat>
replaced-url
3170 [21:20:02] <Paul--> rwhois isn't the clint for rwhois
protocol ?
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3172 [21:20:15] <Paul--> greycat, I know the man pages
3173 [21:20:25] <jelly-home> Paul--: why do you ask?
3174 [21:20:46] <greycat> It's just whois-over-SOCKS4. From
1996.
3175 [21:20:59] <Paul-->
replaced-url
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3181 [21:22:48] <Paul--> hello folk
3182 [21:23:14] <Paul--> stop to paste man pages , and answer to
my question
3183 [21:23:22] <greycat> *plonk*
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3185 [21:23:47] <bolovanos> I have problem with vim scheme. I have
syntax on and colorscheme dracula in .vimrc
3186 [21:23:52] <bolovanos> scheme downloaded from
replaced-url
3187 [21:23:53] <Paul--> rwhois command and rwhois protocol are
two different things
3188 [21:24:10] <greycat> #vim may be better suited for this
3189 [21:24:14] <bolovanos> saved in ~/.vim/colors/
3190 [21:24:26] <bolovanos> but scheme is not applied (text is
white...)
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3210 [21:33:38] <jhutchins> bolovanos: What are the
ownership/permissions for that file?
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3212 [21:34:02] <jhutchins> bolovanos: Where is the file located?
Did you use the full path?
3213 [21:34:14] <vizzy> i wonder what happened to mosix, does he
debian kernel support mosix by default now?
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3223 [21:38:21] <bolovanos> jhutchins, ownerhip is sam as logged
user, permissions -rw-r--r--, file is located
/home/user/.vim/colors/dracula - no I am using scheme name only - as
suggested for example here
replaced-url
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3234 [21:43:02] <blerrp> i'm on stretch, but i would like
newer packages that even stretch-backports doesn't have. i see
a newer pkg i'm interested in on buster.
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3236 [21:43:53] <blerrp> in a production env, do you think
it's better to add buster to sources.list and install a couple
of packages from that, or am i better off just installing software
manually
3237 [21:43:57] <blerrp> from source or whatever
3238 [21:43:58] <greycat> you can try to backport it yourself, if
stretch-backports doesn't have it yet
3239 [21:44:04] <greycat> !ssb
3240 [21:44:05] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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3244 [21:46:13] <GNU\colossus> blerrp, don't mix releases.
use backports, or create a backported package yourself.
3245 [21:47:11] <blerrp> ok. i guess i'll try backporting it.
never done that before
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3248 [21:47:57] <blerrp> !deb-src sid
3249 [21:47:58] <dpkg> You can get apt to download source packages
with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable
entry for the sid release is: "deb-src
replaced-url
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3251 [21:48:35] <blerrp> !bdo
3252 [21:48:35] <dpkg> backports.debian.org (formerly
backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for
the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable
(<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian
developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read
replaced-url
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3259 [21:50:54] <blerrp> interesting
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3262 [21:51:52] <blerrp> ok so what's happening here?
it's installing from source based on the sid package?
3263 [21:52:15] <blerrp> so i'm not manually fetching source
from a project's website or something right
3264 [21:52:43] <blerrp> !uupdate
3265 [21:52:44] <dpkg> uupdate (in the <devscripts> package)
upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if
the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get
source foo; wget -nd
replaced-url
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3268 [21:55:09] <greycat> blerrp: "apt-get source" pulls
down the original .tar.gz file from upstream and Debian's
patches to that source
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3272 [21:57:22] <blerrp> so why's it bad to mix releases and
get a package from buster vs sid? are the ones ported to buster
possibly specifically tailored to buster in some way likely to break
stuff?
3273 [21:57:36] <blerrp> (assuming you're on stretch)
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3285 [22:01:51] <blerrp> !bdo mirrors
3286 [22:01:52] <dpkg> Mirrors of the <debian-backports>
archive are listed at
replaced-url
3287 [22:02:12] <blerrp> ^ hmm, that mirrors link is broken
3288 [22:02:24] <blerrp> attn bot maintainer
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3388 [22:51:42] <jhutchins> blerrp: Pre-wheezy isn't really
supported any more.
3389 [22:52:46] <greycat> s/really //
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3394 [22:53:57] <jhutchins> blerrp: Certainly wouldn't be any
updates.
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3406 [22:59:03] <jhutchins> Still, factoid should probably be
updated.
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3422 [23:04:03] <astronavt> jhutchins i bricked the macbook :(
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3425 [23:04:29] <astronavt> never copy raw hex off a blog and put
it in grub
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3428 [23:05:23] <petemc> what model of macbook ?
3429 [23:05:33] <sillyslux> oh did you manage...
3430 [23:06:18] <greycat>
replaced-url
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3437 [23:08:24] <petemc> heh
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3445 [23:13:34] <tw> I've gotta be honest, I've done
that copy-paste thing more than once with .dts[i] files.
3446 [23:13:48] <tw> it's about the same level of crazy.
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3450 [23:15:30] <astronavt> sillyslux i killed her. she ded
3451 [23:15:40] <astronavt> power button doesnt work
3452 [23:15:44] <astronavt> no life
3453 [23:15:55] <sillyslux> it took me 3 years to press the
forbidden button on my smartphone (custom rom installation prepared,
but only half way)
3454 [23:16:07] <astronavt> petemc 8,2
3455 [23:16:08] <astronavt> 2011
3456 [23:16:18] <astronavt> was trying to disable the radeon gfx
card
3457 [23:16:26] <sillyslux> $50 loss
3458 [23:16:29] <astronavt> so i could, ynkow, have a desktop
instead of a console
3459 [23:16:30] <astronavt> not really
3460 [23:16:31] <sillyslux> nothing compared to you
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3462 [23:16:48] <astronavt> this thing has a $750 tb hard drive, 4
gigs of ram, and a 2.3 ghz quad core
3463 [23:16:53] <astronavt> it was top end in its day
3464 [23:16:58] <astronavt> gorgeous 15" screen, dvd/cd drive
3465 [23:17:03] <astronavt> would have been a great home media
machine
3466 [23:17:14] <astronavt> $
3467 [23:17:15] <astronavt> lol
3468 [23:17:18] <astronavt> gb
3469 [23:17:21] <astronavt> wtf is wrong with me
3470 [23:17:24] <astronavt> 750gb
3471 [23:17:43] <sillyslux> maybe it's still flashable, send
it in
3472 [23:19:00] <astronavt> ah true
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3474 [23:19:22] <astronavt> probably like a $200 repair. apple is
annoying though they gut the insides
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3476 [23:19:30] <astronavt> ill have to find a third party who
wont do that
3477 [23:19:41] <astronavt> would like the stuff on the HD
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3481 [23:20:44] <astronavt> greycat.... i am that guy
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3501 [23:30:12] <reds_> Hello! So I'm trying to install
icecat in debian but the file "start-icecat.sh" will not
work. It will give me this error is I try to use it (I applied chmod
755 before hand) "run-icecat.sh: Cannot execute ." What do
I do?
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3507 [23:32:54] <annadane> reds_, well, firstly, how are you
installing it, because icecat is not in debian
3508 [23:33:08] <do0m> chmod +x
3509 [23:33:16] <annadane> and, right, chmod +x
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3513 [23:34:47] <annadane> chmod +x start-icecat.sh
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3517 [23:36:35] <reds_> the first thing I tried was chmod +x, I
just tried other things to get it to maybe work. What I did was grab
the tar.gz from the fsf website for icecat from another computer, I
put it in this one, decompressed it in the opt folder, and made a
.desktop file (well reposed the one I made on another computer) for
the record both the desktop file and the start-icecat.sh are not
working
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3519 [23:37:39] <n4dir> did you try "./icecat.sh " ?
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3527 [23:38:26] <SuperTramp83> reds_: I believe there's an
executable named 'icecat' in the folder somewhere, have
you tried launching it?
3528 [23:38:26] <do0m> are u getting the error when doing what
n4dir said from that /opt/watever folder or when running the
.desktop ?
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3530 [23:38:56] <reds_> I got that error from running it in term,
using the .desktop gives me another error
3531 [23:39:17] <reds_> This is really weird because my other
machine with debian doesn't have this problem
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3533 [23:39:32] <do0m> the error really ends in "execute
." ? nothing else ?
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3535 [23:39:39] <reds_> Yes
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3537 [23:40:04] <reds_> ./icecat gives me this bash: ./icecat:
Permission denied
3538 [23:40:05] <do0m> ls -lrath the folder, what are the
permissions ?
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3540 [23:42:22] <reds_>
replaced-url
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