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0[00:00:07] <scwizard> so when I send emails to
debian-cloud@lists.debian.org
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2[00:00:13] <scwizard> does anyone actually get them?
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5[00:01:19] <rant> scwizard: presumably anyone subscribed to
that list would get them
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6[00:01:38] <scwizard> then why no reply :(
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7[00:02:12] <rant> "Either they don't know, they
don't show, or they just don't care (about being a menace
to south central while they drink their juice in the hood)"
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8[00:02:36] <scwizard> this page lists us-east-2 twice and
us-east-1 0 times :(
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17[00:06:41] <crimson_king> I can print, but scanner
doesn't show up here on GNOME's default scanning app, what
could it be?
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18[00:07:11] <crimson_king> "No scanner available" it
says
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20[00:07:44] <rant> crimson_king: is it an all-in-one? hp?
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21[00:07:47] <crimson_king> yes
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23[00:08:02] <rant> crimson_king: have you installed the hpijs
software?
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24[00:08:08] <crimson_king> no, nothing
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25[00:08:14] <crimson_king> wait a sec
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26[00:08:37] <rant> I've not had any issues with an HP
device using their packages provided by debian
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27[00:08:51] <crimson_king> what is the name of the package?
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28[00:08:58] <crimson_king> of what I must install
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29[00:09:04] <rant> ,i hpijs
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30[00:09:05] <judd> No package named 'hpijs' was
found in stretch/amd64.
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32[00:09:14] <crimson_king> I found printer-driver-hpijs
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33[00:09:20] <crimson_king> is this it?
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34[00:09:33] <rant> ,i hplip
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35[00:09:34] <judd> Package hplip (utils, optional) in
stretch/amd64: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP).
Version: 3.16.11+repack0-3; Size: 141.3k; Installed: 316k; Homepage:
replaced-url
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39[00:10:12] <rant> it'll give you a blue HP icon in your
notification area, and a HP settings tool for configuring HP
print/scan/fax stuff
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41[00:10:35] <crimson_king> will gnome's simple scan work
afterwards?
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42[00:10:54] <crimson_king> I prefer the cleanest approach
there is, using whatever is default instead of adding more
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43[00:11:16] <rant> it should.. the driver you mentioned is
probably all you NEED but then you gotta do all the config
yourself.. hplip handles all that, you never have to touch any
cups/sane stuff
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44[00:11:29] <crimson_king> all right, i'll try
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45[00:11:42] <rant> it also allows you to monitor ink levels
and all that kinda crap
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51[00:19:13] <crimson_king> hplip was already installed. The
only 'hpijs' I see here is hpijs-ppds
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52[00:20:12] <crimson_king> that printer-driver-hpijs was
already installed as well
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61[00:25:55] <rant> run the hplip tool then hp-toolbox
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65[00:27:13] <rant> the only thing I had issues with was
getting send to pc to work on those wireless setups.. the acquiring
from the linux side always worked fine
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68[00:29:53] <rant> I wonder what genius named that "HP
Linux Printing and Imaging" instead of "HP Linux Imaging
and Printing" considering its HPLIP not HPLPI
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71[00:33:00] <crimson_king> do I need Xsane for simple scan to
work?
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72[00:33:35] <crimson_king> I found some tools that start with
hp, such as hp-check. It shows a lot of errors, mostly missing
packages
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73[00:34:02] <crimson_king> xsane is one of them. "xsane
needs to be installed" it says
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76[00:37:58] <hypn0> simple-scan works here
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77[00:38:53] <hypn0> or did in 8, haven't tried in 9 yet
:-)
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80[00:40:14] <crimson_king> I'll reboot and try some
packages on my own. If I get it working, I'll make sure to let
you know how
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81[00:40:21] <hypn0> I think you only need the sane library
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94[00:50:17] <Azrael_-> would you suggest to go for bacula 9
instead of 7.4 for a new productive installation?
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109[00:59:53] <michael2> hi all. I have urxvt set to use
URxvt.font: xft:Monospace:pixelsize=15
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110[01:00:05] <michael2> but when I run `fc-list' I dont
see "Monospace" or "xft" in the output, why is
that?
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112[01:00:46] <michael2> how do I identify/list out the font
that rxvt uses out of the list of installed fonts
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119[01:05:49] <frazr> Anyone had problems with settings
http/https proxy settings via terminal?
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120[01:05:58] <frazr> /etc/environment doesn't seem to work
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121[01:06:16] <frazr> fucking chrome, refuses to apply the proxy
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122[01:06:23] <SlidingHorn> !language | frazr
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123[01:06:43] <frazr> heckin poo chrome refuses to apply the
proxy
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129[01:11:44] <frazr> tried all possible solutions now, nothing
seems to work
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130[01:11:46] <frazr> bu-hu
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139[01:19:47] <michael2> proxy settings are hard - and non
obvious
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140[01:20:30] <michael2> are you disabling proxing for any
hosts?
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142[01:20:47] <michael2> e.g. localhost, 127.0.0.1?
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143[01:21:56] <michael2> are you using the correct protocol ?
i.e. is SOCKS being applied to your connections?
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146[01:23:52] <frazr> michael2: yeah its http&https proxy,
running privoxy
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147[01:24:08] <frazr> works fine testing in firefox
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150[01:24:32] <michael2> but you dont want to use firefox?
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151[01:24:36] <frazr> no :)
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152[01:25:05] <frazr> ideally i'd simply run
https_proxy=blabla chrome or chrome --proxy-server=blabla
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153[01:25:13] <frazr> should work, but doesnt
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154[01:25:24] <michael2> can you netstat active connections? is
chrome connecting to your local SOCKS entry point?
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156[01:26:19] <michael2> what if you configure through the GUI?
what about if you run in incognito mode or in a different chrome
user account?
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157[01:26:46] <frazr> dont have any gui for that
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158[01:27:00] <frazr> unless theres some simple gtk app that
does that
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159[01:27:10] <frazr> probably is.. :)
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160[01:27:33] <michael2> are you running headless chrome?
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161[01:27:52] <frazr> like starting with --incognito ?
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163[01:28:19] <frazr> unless its a default arg no
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164[01:28:36] <michael2> I dont know how to start incognito from
command line
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167[01:28:57] <frazr> thats how u do it
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168[01:29:05] <frazr> didnt work , can try with the env vars too
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169[01:29:50] <frazr> nopes :
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170[01:29:51] <frazr> :/
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171[01:30:12] <michael2> yeah, it seems thats how you do it -
not surprising it didn't work though...
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172[01:30:35] <michael2> are you running headless chrome? why
don't you have GUI menu?
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173[01:31:43] <frazr> hmm
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176[01:31:50] <frazr> i guess its chrome thats shit
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177[01:31:55] <frazr> tried curl ifconfig.co
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178[01:32:00] <frazr> and thats proxied
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179[01:32:35] <frazr> sigh..
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186[01:36:16] <cef> frazr: tried running chrome directly with
`--proxy-server=host:port` on the command line to ensure chromes
proxy support isn't just totally broken?
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189[01:37:11] <frazr> cef: yup
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190[01:38:09] <cef> frazr: only thing I could suggest in the
meantime then is using that, maybe pass $http_proxy on the command
line so it's the same system wide var.
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191[01:38:11] <frazr> seems like it takes proxy settings from
the DE
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192[01:38:26] <frazr> since im running a faily uncommon one i
guess it doesnt know where to look
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193[01:38:59] <frazr> tried both setting in environment and
passing when executing chrome and exporting in session
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194[01:39:05] <frazr> dont know if theres any other way :)
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195[01:39:39] <cef> if it's just one user, chrome has
settings in it somewhere for proxies
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197[01:39:55] <cef> better if it just worked the other way tho.
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198[01:39:57] <frazr> i dont think it has ?
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199[01:40:04] <frazr> it just opens up gsettings when in gnome
for example
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200[01:40:42] <crimson_king> After installing everything related
to HPLIP and trying the GUI, I still can't scan. Here's
the result of hp-check:
replaced-url
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201[01:41:00] <crimson_king> PS: I don't have non-free
enabled
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202[01:41:18] <cef> frazr: Ahh yeah, you're right.. here it
opens NetworkManager. hrm
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204[01:41:41] <frazr>
replaced-url
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206[01:42:03] <frazr> Should work to set via --proxy-server,
since it clearly says that
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210[01:43:34] <KindaNoob> How make script run at log on?
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211[01:45:40] <frazr> Use google
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212[01:46:40] <annadane> i don't think telling people to
use google is especially helpful
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214[01:47:25] <SlidingHorn> KindaNoob: what desktop
environment/window manager are you using?
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217[01:49:20] <frazr> No its not, and for basic questions that
you could find the answer in 10 seconds you shouldnt be helpful
either, had this discussion before
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220[01:50:06] * kot rolls eyes
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221[01:51:10] <frazr> Last time i was complaining about that
myself in this same channel i believe, but got convinved that it
does no good answering those types of questions
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222[01:51:13] <frazr> roll away
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223[01:51:20] <KindaNoob> SlidingHorn xfce
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224[01:52:14] <kot> fine, then don't. just don't tell
others what not to do.
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225[01:52:54] <KindaNoob> I tried rc.local, but it doesn't
work
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232[01:54:43] <annadane> devils advocate position is 1) this is
a _help channel_ and 2) using google is often wrong
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233[01:54:54] <annadane> search result: ubuntu forums from 7
years ago, no longer relevant
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236[01:56:17] <annadane> 3) now is a noob (self professed in
their name) supposed to know which of the search results is correct?
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237[01:56:18] <SlidingHorn> KindaNoob: easy method - Menu >
Settings Manager > Session and Startup > Application Autostart
tab
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239[01:56:33] <annadane> there you go: someone gave a concrete
answer
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240[01:56:45] <annadane> don't punish the newbies; punish
the people who should know better
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241[01:57:03] <annadane> s/now/how
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243[01:57:24] <frazr> Learning by trial and error and reading
like we all did, but whatever you keep on filling up the channel
with discussions of that nature
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244[01:57:56] <KindaNoob> So there is no common solution?
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247[01:58:21] <annadane> i think the CLI approach is to run it
as a cron job
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250[01:58:48] <annadane> there's possibly a GUI frontend
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251[01:59:26] <rjsalts> I don't think there is an event for
login with cron, just @reboot
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252[01:59:28] <KindaNoob> does cron have event-based launch?
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253[02:00:06] <SlidingHorn> KindaNoob: There are other ways, but
I figured that the option I provided would be the easiest
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256[02:00:36] <annadane> i thought it did, maybe not
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288[02:16:40] <impy> hi does anyone know how I can get Debian to
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289[02:17:22] <impy> actually; ignore me, it seems to have now
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after i ifdown eth the wlan started working.. any clues why?
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329[02:57:43] <rant> iLogic: probably due to the routing table
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330[02:58:39] <rant> if it were setup properly it'd work
with both interfaces configured
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332[02:58:51] <Moobius> hello
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335[02:59:26] <Moobius> why is there eye strain under any linux
distribution?
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336[03:00:21] <Moobius> this is unrelated to video drivers,
particular graphics mode, monitor or fonts.
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338[03:01:06] <rant> its said that one cannot look upon the face
of God and live.. maybe you're just not able to withstand the
awesomeness of linux
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340[03:01:47] <Moobius> that's not an answer of course
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341[03:02:25] <Moobius> i have a better theory: perhaps your
eyes are already so much destroyed you can't tell the
difference anymore
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342[03:02:43] <rant> to paraphrase deep thought, I'm pretty
sure thats the answer, you just need to figure out what the question
is
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343[03:02:59] <Moobius> it's pretty much out there.
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345[03:03:26] <Moobius> unless you just want to play some
typical mind games like pro vs amateur
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346[03:03:27] <rant> yeah a really vague question followed by
all the primary answers ruled out
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347[03:03:29] <Moobius> not gonna work this time
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348[03:03:55] <Moobius> it's not vague, it's just what
there is. I can't give you more, because linux won't let
me to
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349[03:04:10] <rant> if you've ruled out all the typical
causes of eye strain, then you're just kinda linux bashing
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350[03:05:11] <rant> its not merely that I am not interested in
taking this seriously, I just dont see how to approach it as such
within the perameters
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351[03:05:45] <Moobius> neither do i, otherwise i would have
probably found the answer myself a long time ago
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352[03:05:54] <rant> my thoughts would be things like luminence
both from the screen and surroundings, font sizes, antialiasing,
refresh rate..etc
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353[03:06:15] <Moobius> my question is addressed to those who
may have been puzzled like me some time back but then found a
solution. In other words who are actually familiar with the issue
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354[03:06:20] <rant> distance from the screen and so on
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355[03:06:45] <Moobius> fonts got nothing to do with it, like i
said. Neither refresh rate, it's all good, 60hz, etc.
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357[03:06:59] <rant> oh I'm plenty familiar with such
issues but in one case it was due to a faulty CRT monitor, another
was due to crappy fonts..etc
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359[03:07:01] <Moobius> i mean, if it was THAT simple i would
never come in here and ask for help
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361[03:07:13] <Moobius> actually, there is no such issue on CRT
monitor
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363[03:07:22] <Moobius> it only shows itself on LCD
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364[03:07:38] <rant> well in that case dot pitch and such also
come to mind
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365[03:07:52] <rant> for me I was using a really large old
montitor that just got the shakes sometimes
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366[03:08:00] <Moobius> and whenever people speak of fonts,
it's just confusion. They get affected by one thing but failed
to pinpoint it they readily accuse fonts. That's just not it
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367[03:08:15] <Moobius> one thing i can tell you, though
i'm not sure it's any good
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369[03:09:23] <Moobius> I have no such issues on Windows of
course, but whenever i'm on linux under X i notice that the
colors don't exactly look the same as on Windows. They seem to
be more saturated, which i believe could have something to do with
dithering
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370[03:09:33] <Moobius> but then how would that cause eye
strain?
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371[03:09:52] <rant> you already narrowed it down saying it
happens on one kind of display and not another.. so its either that
display or some configuration of it.. LCDs for one thing are far
more flexible on things like dot pitch, aspect ratio, etc I can
configure either of these two LCDs to 16:9, 5:4 4:3, etc when
clearly they do HAVE a native res and aspect
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372[03:09:54] <kot> sounds like a psychological thing.
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374[03:10:11] <Moobius> i said it got nothing to do with the
monitor because i've used another one before, same thing
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375[03:10:19] <Moobius> no, it's NOT a psychological thing
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376[03:10:23] <Moobius> let me show you something now
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377[03:10:41] <Moobius>
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378[03:10:48] <rant> if it were a psychological thing,
you'd be the last to know.. and your inability to accept the
possiblity only reinforces the diagnosis
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379[03:10:51] <Moobius> this guy was having the same exacty
problem
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380[03:11:01] <Moobius> exact*
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381[03:11:27] <Moobius> another dude with placebo syndrome
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382[03:11:42] <Moobius> why would people even think of it in the
first place?
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383[03:11:54] <kot> sounds about right to me
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384[03:12:10] <rant> and different monitors don't matter if
you're making the monitor attempt to render things in a way it
wasnt designed for.. making this 24in TV I'm on now render this
in the 5:4 ratio of the 17in monitor below it, would cause eye
strain because this is not a 5:4 monitor even though it can
technically display in that ratio
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386[03:12:26] <eamanu> Hello everybody.. I have some problem
with build package (wiht sbuild) Someone could help me, please?
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388[03:12:35] <Moobius> i'm not doing anything with the
monitor
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389[03:12:55] <Moobius> just using standard configuration by
default, native resolution, native refresh rate.
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391[03:13:39] <rant> how is it hooked up?
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392[03:13:39] <Moobius> and it's always the same thing -
eye strain. Not immediately, no. After a little while it feels like
i can't focus my sight on one point on the screen, it's
like my eyes can no longer adjust properly
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393[03:13:50] <Moobius> next tip: go check your eyes
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394[03:14:02] <Moobius> only it doesn't happen on Windows
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396[03:14:24] <kot> sounds like bs
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397[03:14:30] <Moobius> yeah yeah, ok
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398[03:14:35] <rant> for my example this tv is hooked up via
HDMI to a DisplayPort.. which messes with detection.. and the dot
pitch and resolution was not what I wanted initially
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400[03:15:14] <Moobius> how about you psychologically adjusted
your perception into thinking there are no problems which is why
you're not experiencing any?
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402[03:15:25] <Moobius> sounds pretty legit
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403[03:15:50] <kot> suits me ok
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405[03:16:18] <Moobius> well then at least don't call it
bs, cause it can go both ways you know
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406[03:16:18] <rabbitea1_sdf> how do I 'git rm
--cached' starting from current HEAD and just going all the way
back, one by one?
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407[03:16:25] <rant> yeah, sounds more like philosophy to me..
and maybe you should try
linux or hardware
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409[03:16:37] <Moobius> i will
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410[03:16:43] <Moobius> though i doubt it will be any different
of course..
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411[03:16:54] <kot> true
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412[03:17:00] <rant> perhaps not, but try not ruling things out
off the bad and let it go back to square one
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413[03:17:27] <rant> you're frustrated as most of us are
when shit isnt workin right.. it gets in the way of people trying to
figure stuff out
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414[03:17:54] <Moobius> problem is, this thing has been keeping
me from using linux for YEARS
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415[03:18:16] <rant> I'd learn brail before I'd use
windows again :P
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419[03:20:27] <Moobius> i've googled the issue many times,
been to many different boards, all i got is suspicions with regard
to PWM, dithering, fonts and backlighting
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421[03:21:07] <rant> Moobius: also a thought provided all you
say is true.. maybe try running linux on various VM on TOP of
windows or such rubish shit to rule things out
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422[03:21:13] <Moobius> a lot of times people would recommend
flu.x or redshift to others, but that hardly does anything as
it's obviously a case of misapplication
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423[03:21:29] <Moobius> oh, if run from vbox it's all
perfect
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424[03:21:52] <rant> Moobius: because you can't say I have
a problem with A B and C and its not A B or C.. you gotta accept the
fact the monitor is a factor since you say it doesnt happen with CRT
and if you say it works from VBOX you also can't say its not
related to drivers..etc
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425[03:22:00] <Moobius> but then how does it help? i just know
it uses Windows video output and therefore it's naturally
eyestrain-free
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426[03:22:02] <rant> you're ruling things out based on
rather fuzzy logic
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427[03:22:21] <Moobius> it's not the monitor but the INPUT
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428[03:22:41] <Moobius> how is my logic fuzzy here?
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430[03:23:38] <Moobius> and obviously i have no idea how to
adjust the input because the issue is unknown
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431[03:24:03] <rant> well again flipping this around like you
been doing, perhaps its just perception on our part.. that you ask a
question, without qualification of the hw and settings used, ruled
out all the possible causes, then just say windows works, linux
doesnt.. thats where we lose interest..
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433[03:24:36] <rant> because you've derailed any attempt to
figure it out having apparently done it all already
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435[03:25:08] <Moobius> well, i'm sorry, it's all i
have at least to prove to you that i'm not making things up,
and also i'm not the only one who is sensitive to it
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436[03:25:17] <Moobius> i wouldn't go as far as to claim
that i've tried everything
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437[03:25:24] <rant> thus I say go back to square one, and try
other more general channels since you can't really make this an
issue scoped to this specific channel
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438[03:25:32] <Moobius> there is a lot of options one could use
in xorg.conf alone
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440[03:25:48] <redd> if it works fine using a virtual driver but
not with actual drivers, how is it not the drivers causing the
issue?
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441[03:25:57] <rant> you might get some headway starting over
from the beginning and not allowing prior data to interfere with a
new attempt at troubleshooting
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442[03:26:20] <Moobius> Ok, suppose it's the drivers. Then
what?
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443[03:26:46] <Moobius> I mean, do you suggest i should try
using windows driver? :)
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444[03:27:42] <redd> try a manufacturer provided driver vs a
reverse engineered one, or change hardware manu, so you're
getting an entirely different driver
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445[03:28:12] <Moobius> which driver exactly are you talking
about?
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448[03:28:48] <redd> the drivers for the display adapter
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449[03:29:01] <Moobius> ok, i always use proprietary one
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450[03:29:19] <rant> which driver are YOU talking about :P I can
tell you right now schrodinger's cat is both alive and dead :P
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453[03:30:03] <Moobius> is there another one except video? There
you go, i thought you offered something really original, but i was
wrong ;)
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456[03:32:43] <redd> was that to me Moobius?
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457[03:32:51] <Moobius> no
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464[03:34:06] <Kelsar> yeah, as we all now, there is only one
graphics card vendor!
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467[03:34:34] <Moobius> :/
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469[03:36:31] <Moobius> thank you for the discussion, i will be
back later
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470[03:36:38] <redd> gl
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502[04:07:23] <superflit> any smart way to migrate/backup a
server from one VM provider to another? I want to keep it as similar
as possible
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509[04:12:28] <somiaj> superflit: both debian?
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510[04:12:41] <superflit> somiaj: yes
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512[04:13:10] <somiaj> maybe something like this.
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513[04:13:13] <somiaj> !aptitude clone
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514[04:13:13] <dpkg> To clone a Debian machine using aptitude
(or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search
--disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on
the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install <
package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves
information about "automatically installed" packages that
other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to
backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
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517[04:13:35] <somiaj> that will ensure they have the same
packages, though you may want to use rsync to copy configs and data
between the two.
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519[04:15:37] <annadane> mainly /etc, i'd think
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520[04:15:44] <annadane> or just cherry pick what you want
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521[04:15:59] * annadane personally never leaves over too many config
files
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525[04:17:37] <redd> can you not get the provider to
clone/export appliance and drop it somewhere for you? or is that
something they don't generally do (including new provider not
installing custom images/appliances)? asking more out of curiousity
than as a suggestion...
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529[04:20:18] <redd> actually its not only probably offtopic for
chan, but also detracting from helping someone so feel free to pm
answer
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537[04:25:32] <michael2> im trying to get set a font with
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538[04:26:15] <superflit> redd: can’t get a snapshot from
provider
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539[04:26:28] <superflit> somiaj: thought about it.
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540[04:26:46] <superflit> indeed my plans was to rsync /etc,
/usr /root, /home ...
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542[04:27:14] <somiaj> superflit: I would just clone the package
list, then copy the data, which includes cherry picking what you
actually copy
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543[04:27:33] <superflit> somiaj: that seems reasonable
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627[05:37:40] <Frank2> hello
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630[05:39:21] <nekOwO> Why is apt-get still included in Debian
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631[05:39:27] <nekOwO> I thought it was replaced by apt
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632[05:39:57] <Frank2> apt-get is a historically command
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634[05:40:24] <nekOwO> Frank2: ???
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637[05:40:51] <Frank2> apt-get is the classic packet manager in
debian
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638[05:41:06] <nekOwO> but apt is objectively better
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639[05:41:16] <nekOwO> it's really just a waste of space
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640[05:41:42] <dvs> Debian is about choice.
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641[05:42:15] <nekOwO> Heh
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642[05:42:17] <nekOwO> hehe...
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643[05:43:57] <nekOwO> That's pretty bad reasoning for
including 2 package managers
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644[05:44:02] <Frank2> I installed dovecot on my debian vps, but
when I try to connect with netcat it answer me : ERR [AUTH]
Plaintext authentication disallowed on non-secure (SSL/TLS)
connections.
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645[05:44:19] <Frank2> how may I solve this problem ?
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647[05:45:27] <dvs> nekOwO, there's more than two included
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648[05:45:44] <nekOwO> Fine, 3
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649[05:45:49] <nekOwO> dpkg is a nice thing to have
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650[05:45:50] <dpkg> nekOwO: I'm not sure, is it larger
than a breadbox?
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651[05:46:05] <Frank2> must I install secure connection ?
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652[05:46:10] <nekOwO> But apt-get is just wasted space
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654[05:46:20] <nekOwO> Nobody who knows what they're doing
uses apt-get
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656[05:47:15] <somiaj> apt-get is used in plenty of scripts, and
needs to be installed
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657[05:47:23] <kot> i use mate de. why would other de's or
window managers still be included?
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658[05:47:58] <SlidingHorn> kot: because you probably
haven't uninstalled the ones you were previously using
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659[05:48:00] <nekOwO> kot: because some people don't like
mate. but that isn't comparable to an objectively inferior
package manager
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660[05:48:02] <somiaj> because of using apt-get in scripts,
apt-get could not be changed, and had to matain a stable command
line interface. apt was thus introduced for users, and isn't
tied to having to have a stable interface and can also produce nice
output.
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661[05:48:35] <nekOwO> Then we must focus on changing those
scripts to apt
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663[05:48:51] <somiaj> and there are more than two package
mangers, there is apt (which is apt-get, apt, apt-cache, apt-file),
aptitude, synamptic
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665[05:49:10] <somiaj> no, that is not going to work, apt is
meant to be something that evolve, and not be used in scripts. apt
and apt-get have different purposes.
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666[05:49:12] <nekOwO> aptitude isn't included by default
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667[05:49:51] <kot> good idea, nekOwO. you can get started right
away. how long do you think it will take?
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668[05:50:07] <dvs> ...and my favorite: dselect!
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669[05:50:29] <somiaj> this is what happens if you try to pipe
apt's output, "WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI
interface. Use with caution in scripts.", the reason apt-get
couldn't be changed is because it needs a stable CLI interface.
now having apt-get which has a stable CLI interface (and far more
options and ability than apt) and apt which can evolve, and be
simpler and more straight forward for users, and can change.
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670[05:51:15] <somiaj> so porting all the scripts to use apt,
would force apt to have a stable cli interface (And have to disable
all the fancy output), and thus jus tput apt in the same state
apt-get was. They have different purposes, that is why they are both
there, and they are both part of apt.
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671[05:52:22] <somiaj> also as I said, apt-get has features that
apt doesn't. Features devs and scripts need, but not an end
user manging software on their system.
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674[05:54:40] <nekOwO> that's very unfortunate
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679[05:55:52] <somiaj> why? I don't see why this is a
problem. apt is a collection of tools, and now has one more.
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688[06:00:09] <SlidingHorn> I feel like this should be in the
offtopic channel.
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693[06:00:51] <somiaj> its on topic, it is about debian.
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694[06:01:14] <SlidingHorn> it's not support
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695[06:01:27] <nekOwO> I asked why it included apt-get
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696[06:01:33] <SlidingHorn> that's not a support question
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697[06:01:33] <nekOwO> And he explained it to me
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698[06:01:49] <dvs> ???
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699[06:02:00] <nekOwO> ...yes it is
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700[06:02:24] <SlidingHorn> no, it's a
philosophical/subjective questioning question.
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703[06:02:29] <SlidingHorn> which isn't for here.
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706[06:03:08] <dvs> why there is more that one package program
is a philosophical question?
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707[06:03:38] <somiaj> it wasn't subjective at all, there
are versy specific reasons why both are available.
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710[06:04:01] <somiaj> but now this isn't support, and
anyways, the conversation was just fine.
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712[06:04:20] <SlidingHorn> I suggest taking a look at the !off
topic command in here.
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714[06:04:38] <somiaj> SlidingHorn: things are fine, (:
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717[06:05:08] <SlidingHorn> I mean, if the ops don't care
about the rules, then.. *shrug*
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719[06:06:44] <awal1> SlidingHorn, I find th topic very debian
related, not off
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721[06:08:35] <awal1> nekOwO, a nice instructive comment for you
replaced-url
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722[06:09:12] <awal1> add the new apt to that and consider it
just like another front-end for the original apt
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725[06:10:04] <awal1> i guess the possible "mess" is
that the new 'apt' should be called
'apt-something' for avoid confusion
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726[06:10:38] <somiaj> it was called apt, because it was meant
to combine the various tools, apt-get and apt-cache.
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728[06:11:09] <awal1> I know, yeah. but still confusing for non
advised users
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730[06:12:11] <krytarik> "apt-fancy" - ok, found it!
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733[06:13:09] <Unit193> IIRC, one of the devs had mentioned
apt-get being a better one to use in scripts, while apt made for a
better front end to users.
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734[06:15:09] <nekOwO> o-okay i get it
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736[06:16:59] <awal1> the only advantage of apt right now is
that you don't need to use apt-get and apt-cache separately
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738[06:17:30] <krytarik> ..And it's also fancy looking.
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739[06:17:32] <awal1> well, it is a new project; less features,
obviously vs -get/-cache
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742[06:18:12] <Unit193> I'm not fond of apt's output
with what one would otherwise use `apt-cache` for. `apt list` is
nice though.
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750[06:18:54] <somiaj> yea, I try to use apt more, but do like
apt-cache's output for most thigns better, and the fact it
doesn't yell at me when i try to pipe the output.
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754[06:19:30] <awal1> all is fine; one just uses what suites
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755[06:20:02] <awal1> i personally like aptitude/apt-X
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784[06:36:16] <Tomatix> Is there a way to tell which ./configure
options that has been on used on a package? e.g. wine
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792[06:40:24] <Tomatix> ah. found it by getting apt-get source
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845[07:06:22] <tp43_> How to install printer?
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849[07:08:49] <tp43_> oh nevermind, it was easy with xfce
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852[07:09:50] <somiaj> nice, there is also a web interface to
cups if needed
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855[07:11:16] <Rembo> hello everyone, i'm getting the
following error:
replaced-url
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856[07:12:38] <tp43_> somiaj, oh yeah, what is the url?
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859[07:13:08] <somiaj> localhost:631 -- and if you add your user
to the lpadmin group, you can login to manage things
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862[07:13:22] <tp43_> somiaj, thx
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870[07:16:10] <somiaj> Rembo:
replaced-url
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871[07:16:26] <somiaj> which is common, due to ssl issues
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1114[09:27:46] <Rembo> hello, i have a wget issue:
replaced-url
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in debian?
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1170[09:55:47] <SlidingHorn> michael2: depending on your DE,
there's usually a Settings application in your menu...go to
Appearance > Fonts
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dying, my terminal freezes from time to time, audio from headphones
sounds bad, dmesg constantly prints messages about spurious
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seems pretty good
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1304[10:48:52] <dcpc007> Hi all
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1307[10:49:03] <dcpc007> I have a corrupted SDcard in FAT
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1309[10:49:24] <dcpc007> i ran a fcsk and it shows me some error,
i make correct, but seems to do nothing
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1310[10:49:57] <dcpc007> i have a gparted report
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1311[10:50:25] <dcpc007> FAT 1 media 0 doesn't match the
boot sector's media f8. You should probably run scandisk.
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1312[10:50:34] <dcpc007> Bad FAT: unterminated chain for \. You
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1313[10:50:49] <dcpc007> unable to mount the sdcard on Windows 7
or 10 too
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1317[10:51:33] <dcpc007> any idea on how to get back the foto on
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1404[11:36:35] <dfcnvt> Okay, I recently installed a new Debian
OS (stable).
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1405[11:36:45] <dfcnvt> I've hit a few problems.
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1409[11:37:31] <xormor> dfcnvt, so, please tell us about the
problems.
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1421[11:38:46] <dfcnvt> I've selected all packages (main),
(contrib), (non-free) and Source code....
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1422[11:38:53] <dfcnvt> But upon apt-get update &&
apt-get upgrade.
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1423[11:39:17] <dfcnvt> I got a 404 Not Found during its
update/upgrade
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1427[11:39:49] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: can you post your
/etc/apt/sources.list file to a pastebin? cat /etc/apt/sources.list
| nc termbin.com 9999
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1429[11:39:55] <dfcnvt> Sure
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1432[11:39:57] <dfcnvt> give me sec
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1437[11:42:53] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn:
replaced-url
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1439[11:43:11] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: there's more to that
link...
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1440[11:43:16] <dfcnvt> oh crap
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1442[11:43:25] <dfcnvt>
replaced-url
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1449[11:44:47] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: what country are you in?
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1452[11:45:11] <dfcnvt> United States.
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1454[11:46:02] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: ok - in each spot where it
says
replaced-url
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1455[11:46:14] <dfcnvt> Hm
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1456[11:46:15] <dfcnvt> oka
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1458[11:46:21] <SlidingHorn> (sorry, ignore the first https - i
meant http)
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1462[11:47:25] <dfcnvt> each and all line?
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1464[11:47:53] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: yes..should be 4x
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1467[11:49:20] <dfcnvt> Like this?
replaced-url
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1469[11:50:25] <dfcnvt> Hm. Same result.
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1470[11:50:57] <dfcnvt> Just a side note - it "work"
per se. But only one has a 404 Not Found error.
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1474[11:51:08] <dfcnvt> Let me copy/paste the result.
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1477[11:51:31] <SlidingHorn> ok
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1478[11:51:45] <coffforcake> hi, i have been trying to install
debian 9 recently ,bit i didnt work.i wonder if its an installer
problem or something else,because installing debian 8 works.
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1479[11:52:05] <SlidingHorn> coffforcake: what does
"doesn't work" mean?
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1482[11:53:30] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn:
replaced-url
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1484[11:53:44] <dfcnvt> scroll to the bottom of screen.
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1486[11:54:56] <coffforcake> the installer hangs when configuring
the apt-manager
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1488[11:56:13] <dfcnvt> the apt-manager is closed, I ran again
with apt-get, same result.
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1491[11:59:05] <dfcnvt> Alright, I take it all back guys.
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1498[11:59:49] <dfcnvt> I jumped back to the Packaging Manager
and simply deselected the Source (don't need it) and made some
change to selected server. Then I ran it again. It works fine.
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1499[11:59:57] <dfcnvt> Problem solved. Case closed.
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1500[12:00:03] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: okay
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1503[12:00:45] <dfcnvt> Okay, just one more thing.
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1504[12:01:34] <dfcnvt> When I freshly install a new Debian OS --
during that time -- it showed up about non-free package needed to
install, in this case - rtl_nic/rtl8168f-1.fw
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1507[12:01:52] <debNewBye> Hi At all
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1509[12:02:04] <debNewBye> hi at all! I would like to write a
javascript application using node & express.js and deploy it on
a Debian linux server owned by me. would there be a way to protect
the server's source code in case of theft?
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1511[12:02:12] <dfcnvt> I was not able to do any installation
during that time. But nonetheless, I made a note and hold it for
later. Now that I am back and got the apt-get to work. How do I
proceed to install this firmware?
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1512[12:03:00] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: so when your server is
physically stolen you want your source code protected?
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1513[12:03:01] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: sudo apt install
firmware-realtek
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1514[12:03:22] <debNewBye> yes Azrael, protected from copy
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1515[12:03:32] <debNewBye> If i crypt my hard drive
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1516[12:03:52] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: crypt your hard drive, this
should protect it from being copied
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1517[12:03:54] <debNewBye> I think that i need to insert a
password every time for boot
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1518[12:03:54] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: correction: i use sudo - you
can su to root and do apt install firmware-realtek if you don't
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1520[12:04:06] <debNewBye> is correct?
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1522[12:04:44] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Done. Now what's the
next step?
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1524[12:05:01] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: please state your question
again completely
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1525[12:05:14] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: that's it...that
includes the firmware package it wanted you to install
replaced-url
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1526[12:05:34] <debNewBye> ok sorry Azrael, this is my question:
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1528[12:05:48] <dfcnvt> Yea, it's installed...Now I'm
not sure if I need to do further action -- to install the specific
firmware as stated.
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1529[12:06:01] <dfcnvt> modprobe or something the like.
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1530[12:06:12] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: does your wifi work?
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1531[12:06:22] <dfcnvt> It pose problematics.
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1536[12:06:44] <dfcnvt> It's able to see the list of
AP...but it's not able to connect.
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1538[12:07:10] <dfcnvt> So, I had to use phyical connection
temporarily...Trying to get the wifi to work. And I think this
firmware is the solution.
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1540[12:08:34] <debNewBye> I write a program with express.js so I
create a web server for my purposes. I install this application in a
small server in my possession at home If the server is stolen, there
is a possibility that the thief will change the root password and
access the entire contents of the hard disk, including the source
code. Since javascript is not a fillable language, I would like to
protect my source code from the eyes of an attacker.
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1541[12:08:57] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: you may need to reboot so
the kernel recognizes the new firmware package
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1543[12:09:24] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Agreed, going to do that
(will come back to confirm with you)
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1546[12:10:01] <dfcnvt> debNewBye: I think you'd want to
look into chmod command -- it changes permission level to the files
on which can be made to public or not.
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1547[12:10:15] <dfcnvt> (brb)
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1551[12:10:50] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: if you encrypt your
harddrive, or at least the part where the source-code is stored,
then the thief can't access it without the password. if he has
access to your server while it is still running and your disk is
still mounted with the pw, then he can read everything. if he knows
about the encryption before stealing he can take a lot of technical
effort and try to recover the pw from
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1552[12:10:51] <Azrael_-> the still running machine (in case of
having physical access+time). although this is VERY unlikely
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1556[12:13:22] <debNewBye> Azrael I thought about it, but since
it is a web server written in express.js I need to start it without
entering a password every time ...
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1558[12:14:20] <debNewBye> so so my server has to start
automatically when it is turned on. I can not always enter the
password every time
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1559[12:14:32] <Azrael_-> either enter your pw every time or
store the pw on the webserver (making the encryption useless) or
omit restarting it or forget the whole idea
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1561[12:14:52] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Back.
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1562[12:15:00] <dfcnvt> Okay, going to test wifi.
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1563[12:15:00] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: how'd we do?
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1568[12:16:01] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: before using encryption
against normal theft it is easier to increase the obstacles to allow
the theft itself
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1571[12:16:26] <dfcnvt> .
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1573[12:16:34] <debNewBye> what if I think of memorizing the
password on the same web server? is not it useless?
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1575[12:16:39] <dfcnvt> Not able to connect.
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1576[12:16:47] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Not able to connect.
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1578[12:16:58] <dfcnvt> I guess I need to look into log.
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1579[12:17:05] <dfcnvt> But which log is the right one?
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1585[12:18:52] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: let's try this first:
sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf add this (\ = new
line) [device]\wifi.scan-rand-mac-address=no then either su to root
or sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager
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1586[12:18:59] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: if you store the pw on the
same server the thief could find out where it is stored and uses it.
you can store the pw somewhere else and automatically retrieve the
pw over the network/internet but then the attacker would still have
access if you don't put it offline fast enough.
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1587[12:19:24] <debNewBye> would there be the possibility to
store the password on another server (maybe online) so that every
time the home server goes back to get the key online? If I steal the
server I could simply delete the record on the online server and
inhibit access. what do you think about it?
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1588[12:19:34] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Okay, hold.
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1597[12:21:17] <debNewBye> For example, does LUKS give me the
chance to go and get a key from the internet before booting?
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1599[12:21:34] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: afaik not automatically,
you'd have to build something yourself
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1611[12:26:44] <debNewBye> maybe an obfuscator?
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1614[12:28:01] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: Did you get my last message?
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1616[12:28:48] <Azrael_-> debNewBye: an obfuscator only makes
thins a little bit more difficult to read, not using it. basically
an obfuscator is quite useless in most scenarios
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1618[12:29:46] <debNewBye> Yes, I agree with you :-(
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1619[12:30:25] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: It worked. How did you came
to think about adding [device] line to the NetworkManager.conf file?
I mean, either you researched on google and guess its solution or
you had your first-hand experience and knows some solutions to it.
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1623[12:30:45] <dfcnvt> Either way, it worked. I can now
disconnect it physically and enjoy my wireless. :)
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1624[12:31:38] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: glad it worked! My google-fu
is strong :P
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1625[12:31:55] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: I see, but seriously -- what
query did you use via googling?
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1627[12:32:36] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: debian wifi can't
connect
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1629[12:33:05] <dfcnvt> lol, I see it there.
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1630[12:33:14] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn:
replaced-url
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1632[12:34:05] <SlidingHorn> dfcnvt: saw that first, then the
next result "how to fix can't connect to wifi..." was
kind of a confirmation for me
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1635[12:35:34] <dfcnvt> SlidingHorn: I thought you'd might
be searching something like, "NetworkManager config file
realtek wifi" or something like that
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1640[12:37:07] <dfcnvt> Maybe I need to polish my google-fu...To
type the most simplistic general phrase that's likely to show
up.
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1649[12:42:13] <rek> you like amd uhhh
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1663[12:55:16] <Tywin> How can I set gcc-8 as the default version
when compiling?
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1665[12:55:52] <Tywin> update-alternatives is giving me a choice
of only between clang and gcc
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1667[12:57:49] <nkuttler> Tywin: which command did you use?
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1670[12:58:40] <Tywin> nkuttler, update-alternatives --list
cc/cpp/c++
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1672[12:59:53] <nkuttler> doesn't look like gcc itself uses
alternatives for the default gcc
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1677[13:00:29] <nkuttler> probably because on stable gcc is
supposed to be the same..
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1678[13:00:32] <nkuttler> ,v gcc-8
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1679[13:00:33] <judd> Package: gcc-8 on amd64 -- buster: 8.1.0-1;
sid: 8.1.0-1
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1681[13:00:38] <Tywin> nkuttler, how can I force version 8
whenever gcc is called?
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1683[13:00:48] <Tywin> Do I have to do this manually? -_-
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1684[13:00:50] <nkuttler> change the symlink yourself?
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1686[13:01:24] <nkuttler> although, you should probably configure
the build correctly
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1687[13:01:38] <nkuttler> e.g. use gcc-8 as compiler, not gcc or
cc or whatever
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1688[13:01:59] <nkuttler> !debian-next
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1689[13:01:59] <dpkg> #debian-next is the channel for
testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not*
on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is
invite only)." it means you did not read it's on
irc.oftc.net.
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1690[13:02:06] <nkuttler> see also that channel for all testing
support
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1691[13:02:06] <blaztek> Tywin: you can also set CC to gcc-8
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1692[13:02:07] <Tywin> nkuttler, oh well. I'll just do that.
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1696[13:02:49] <Tywin> Thanks
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1772[13:40:32] <revmoo> trying to upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04 I
get Upgrades to the development release are only available from the
latest supported release, even running do-release-upgrade -d
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1773[13:40:43] <revmoo> what am I missing? I've tried all
the tips from googling on this
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1775[13:41:17] <bites> revmoo: what you are missing is the name
of this channel :P
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1776[13:41:24] <revmoo> hahah sorry
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1779[13:41:51] <bites> or maybe he was from the future!
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1793[13:51:08] <drunknigga> i need help
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1807[14:01:28] <keka> have a nice day folks, need to power off :)
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1828[14:15:06] <Meerkat> Why are changelogs for updates so rarely
available? It bothers me :/
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1832[14:15:52] <babilen> Meerkat: I don't quite follow -
every package update comes with a changelog, so they are anything
but "rarely available"
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1833[14:16:09] <SlidingHorn> Meerkat: as far as I'm aware,
there are always changelogs
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1834[14:17:08] <babilen> Meerkat: What kind of changelogs are you
looking for and where have you looked so far?
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1841[14:18:38] <Meerkat> wget update 1.18-5+deb9u2 returns
"Changelog unavailable for wget=1.18-5+deb9u2 (404 Not Found
[IP: 151.101.84.204 80])" using synaptic, apt, apt-get, and
aptitude.
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1842[14:19:26] <Meerkat> same for libwavpack1 and the latest
kernel update for Deb9.
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1843[14:19:39] <jelly> they're in the package however. You
can install apt-listchanges and review before (choosing to) upgrade
with apt/apt-get/aptitude
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1846[14:20:47] <SlidingHorn> Meerkat: also, if you've
already installed and are looking to see changes afterward, see
/usr/share/doc/$packagename/changelog.Debian.gz
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1852[14:24:04] <Guest43647> Anyone good with stretch exim4
talking to mysys (mariadb)? I am getting "exim4 -bt" works
but remote mail results in "MYSQL connection failed: Access
denied for user 'root'@'localhost'" for the
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1911[15:02:07] <dutchfish> hi, how can i make apt-listbugs to
show the list of bugs/remarks it showed on aptitude update
&& aptitude upgrade, again?
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1912[15:02:35] <greycat> look for a NEWS.* file in
/usr/share/doc/thatpackage/
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1913[15:02:50] <greycat> could be tricky if you don't know
which package it was
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1915[15:03:23] <rek> hi greycat bootstrapping takes so long
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1916[15:03:27] <dutchfish> greycat, yes, i was to quick accepting
the upgrade and failed to properly notice its remarks
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1917[15:03:31] <greycat> actually look for a NEWS.Debian.gz file
specifically; other NEWS* files don't count
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1918[15:03:47] <themill> (apt-listbugs not apt-listchanges)
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1919[15:03:59] <greycat> oh
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1924[15:05:25] <dutchfish> or any way, i can make apt-listbugs
show the bugs for the currently installed packages?
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1926[15:05:37] <greycat> ALL of them?!
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1927[15:05:53] <greycat> my god, I can't even get through a
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1928[15:05:57] <dutchfish> greycat, nah, just -s critical for ALL
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1930[15:06:38] <dutchfish> OR apt-listbugs is currently broken on
testing
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1931[15:06:53] <dutchfish> but i gues its just me
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1941[15:12:35] <SilicateWielder> Hi, could someone help me get
Steam working? from the research I've done I'm seeing that
I'm missing libxcb1:i386 though I already have the most current
version.
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1943[15:13:29] <SilicateWielder>
home/silicate/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh reports "line 444: no
match: ssfn*"
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1945[15:14:55] <jken> Hello, can anyone tell me if it is possible
to configure the initial mouse pointer position when X starts? I am
currently doing it via xdotool in .xinitrc, but am trying to move it
out of the way even earlier if possible.
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1946[15:15:09] <SlidingHorn> SilicateWielder: what method did you
use to install steam?
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1948[15:15:33] <tw> SilicateWielder: did you follow this?
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1949[15:16:08] <SlidingHorn> jken: That'd be the way to do
it as far as I know...do you have other commands in your .xinitrc?
Maybe make the pointer position the 1st item?
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1950[15:16:27] <SilicateWielder> Steam is installed from a debian
package provided on the steam website
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1952[15:16:41] <tw> SilicateWielder: this is the method I use for
Steam, but it's a chroot and only set up for nvidia:
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1953[15:16:53] <SilicateWielder> or was, I had some driver issues
so I later installed it from apt
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1954[15:17:42] <jken> SlidingHorn, It is already the first thing
in my .xinitrc
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1958[15:18:51] <jken> I wonder if openbox is centering the mouse,
it's the last thing started in my xinitrc
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1960[15:19:11] <SilicateWielder> Ah, if this was my desktop
I'd try the method you linked but I'm currently on a
laptop with integrated radeon graphics
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1963[15:21:09] <tw> SilicateWielder: looks like the only
reference to nvidia is that nvidia-driver-libs. If there's an
equivalent package for amdgpu, you might be in business.
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1967[15:24:10] <SilicateWielder> I tried purging and
reinstalling, apparently I can run steam using the path
~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam
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1968[15:24:26] <tw> How do you expect to run it that it
isn't working?
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1969[15:24:47] <SilicateWielder> however the school network
i'm on is blocking it from performing the update it needs to
run
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1970[15:25:18] <SilicateWielder> I was just using the steam
command prior to this, which has worked for me before with other
distros of linux
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1971[15:25:50] <tw> Probably not related, but if you're on
stretch, be sure to install that libdb5.1 package from jessie.
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1972[15:26:05] <tw> Otherwise the steam browser doesn't
work.
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1973[15:26:14] <SilicateWielder> okay, thanks for the heads up
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1974[15:26:36] <tw> you need both the i386 and amd64 packages,
most likely.
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1975[15:26:52] <tw> There's an open bug on the steam linux
github about it.
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1980[15:32:25] <cluelessperson> tw: Steam is 32 bit, so yes
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2002[15:44:47] <epergny> Samsung 950 Pro M.2 SSD, I get actual
sustained read speed of nearly 1 Gb/s without issue (say "time
crc32 8gigfile" in less than 8s), on a full LUKS encrypted
drive. However...
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2003[15:45:34] <epergny> I get abysmall write speeds: about 50
MB/s Any idea why? I've searched the net and ppl with similar
SSD on encrypted filesystem get 150 MB/s and more.
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2004[15:46:00] <tw> epergny: what algorithms did you select?
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2005[15:46:02] <epergny> Heck, my crappy old laptop with an old
SSD, also fully encrypted, gets 120 MB/s sustained write.
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2007[15:46:07] <epergny> @tw: for LUKS?
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2008[15:46:10] <tw> yes
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2010[15:46:27] <epergny> ah no idea: default install I guess. Can
this affect write only but not read?
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2011[15:46:47] <tw> Shouldn't but might.
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2021[15:51:56] <cluelessperson> epergny: look at your system
cpu,ram, etc when you perform the tests
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2022[15:52:01] <cluelessperson> identify the bottleneck
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2023[15:52:02] <epergny> cryptsetup benchmark doesn't report
any algo slower than 386 MiB/s (twofish-xts). Still don't know
which one I'm using.
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2027[15:52:30] <epergny> cluelessperson: I've seen reports
on the Debian mailing lists of people booting into text mode,
running nothing, having the same issue
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2030[15:53:05] <cluelessperson> epergny: okay, let's start
with analyzing the issue
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2031[15:53:11] <cluelessperson> you can't fix it if you
can't pinpoint it
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2032[15:53:19] <epergny> cluelessperson: also I don't see
what the bottleneck can be when I get 1 Gb/s read and 50 Mb/s write
: - / I mean: what would affect write speed but not reads?
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2034[15:53:46] <cluelessperson> epergny: who knows, analyzing the
issue gives us info
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2035[15:53:59] <cluelessperson> epergny: try hdparm and look at
advanced options
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2037[15:54:32] <epergny> cluelessperson: but hdparm is good for
raw read speeds, but not write : ( I'll check hdparm options
see if I can find anything
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2043[15:56:53] <wutduff> Hi there
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2044[15:57:10] <wutduff> In the netinst of debian 9 the live is
asking me my domain name
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2045[15:57:20] <wutduff> What if i leave it empty?
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2048[15:57:35] <wutduff> What should will it happen?
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2049[15:57:36] <greycat> that's usually fine, if you
aren't part of an organizewd network
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2051[15:57:44] <wutduff> Ok thanks
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2057[15:59:27] <epergny> hdparm -tT /dev/nvme0n1 Timing cached
reads: 15 360.67 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 1 274.47 MB/sec
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2058[16:00:06] <epergny> and I definitely close to 1000 MB/sec
doing reads on uncached huge files. Bamboozled as to how I get
sustained write of only 50 MB/s (that 1/20th the read speed).
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2060[16:00:51] <cluelessperson> eschwartz: can you show the
output for write
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2061[16:00:59] <epergny> sure
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2066[16:03:38] <epergny> time dd if=/dev/zero of=/root/delme.tmp
conv=fdatasync bs=1M count=1k; both time and dd do
"match": dd gives (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 20.0965 s,
53.4 MB/s while "time" gives: real 0m19.803s
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2071[16:04:36] <epergny> 16 GB of RAM, not much used
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2072[16:04:39] <cluelessperson> epergny: what happened to the
write results?
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2074[16:04:43] <cluelessperson> for hdparm
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2077[16:06:34] <epergny> cluelessperson: I've never seen
hdparm recommended to test write speeds (can hdparm even do that?).
Reading the --help and googling.
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2083[16:08:31] <epergny> all I find is: "hdparm does not
have the ability to find the write speed".
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2087[16:10:24] <epergny> really weird thing is: sustained read
speeds of about 1 Gb/s is, I'm willing to bet, was most (not
all, but most) users get here while sustained write speeds of about
50 Mb/s is, I'm willing to bet again, probably less than what
most get here.
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2089[16:10:48] <epergny> erf sentence : )
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2091[16:11:47] <epergny> I may, if I'm bored, install the
latest stable Debian on this machine (just installed it on my
laptop) and try without disk encryption, with basically nothing. To
troobleshoot a bit.
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2092[16:11:59] <jelly> epergny: did you clear cache before
testing read throughput?
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2095[16:12:30] <jelly> and do you mean 1GB/s where you wrote
"1 Gb/s"
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2096[16:12:43] <greycat> pretty sure he meant GB in all cases
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2097[16:12:45] <jelly> small b means "bits"
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2100[16:14:03] <epergny> yup sorry, GB
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2104[16:15:16] <epergny> I always make the mistake because in
french GB is "Go", not "GO", MB is Mo, etc.
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2107[16:15:30] <RoyK> erm - don't use hdparm or dd to
measure disk speed - use something like fio instead
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2109[16:16:17] <jelly> at least Go as a unit is not ambiguous
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GB file which was clearly not cached. Result are also about 1 GB/s,
basically agreeing with hdparm's read speedtest.
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2111[16:16:47] <epergny> RoyK: but I can check fio too
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2141[16:27:26] <regdude> Hi! How can I configure bonding
interface to use ARP checking instead of MII? Adding arp_target
x.x.x.x to /etc/network/interfaces does not seem to work
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2151[16:29:15] <epergny> Oh well, makes sense to me that I can
actually copy huge files (like VMs) over the network an have the
gigabit switch actually being the bottleneck (as long as huge file
fits in cache/RAM on the destination computer) and get 50 MB/s
sustained write speed (as tested by me with huge files) and 25 MB/s
random write (as measured by fio).
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2152[16:29:31] <epergny> but whatever: gat to go now... FML. 1
GB/s reads, 50 to 25 MB/s write.
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2159[16:33:46] <regdude> nvm, miimon must be removed
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2169[16:38:32] <wutduff> Hi again... i'm downloading the
cinnamon desktop.. file 110 of 1416
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2170[16:38:51] <slax0r> good for you?
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2171[16:38:51] <wutduff> But it is the 110th since half an hour
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2172[16:39:58] <wutduff> Is it a problem? The pc is still
working.. i can move the mouse pointer and the network is still
going
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2174[16:40:27] <wutduff> slax0r for me it's enough if it
downloads it lol
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2179[16:42:18] <wutduff> Should i wait for it?
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2183[16:44:09] <bb36e__> I really want a couple of KDE bugs to
get fixed, but it looks like the fixes won't be
backported...guess I'll wait till 2019 :/
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2186[16:45:48] <Tywin> bb36e__, come to the sid side
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2187[16:45:52] <epergny> depression is going to set: with my
random r/w speed of 25 MB/s and a 300 Mbps symmetric fiber Internet
connection, when I'm d/l ing from fast server my freakin M.2
Samsung 950 Pro SSD is somehow the bottleneck.
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2196[16:52:22] <bb36e__> epergny: haha, like getting a ferarri
but only being able to drive in a parking lot
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2197[16:52:32] <jelly> epergny: are you sure the ssd is the
bottleneck and not some single-threaded kernel thing in cpu?
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2210[16:57:45] <epergny> jelly: I'll have to check that too
but I don't see excessive cpu usage at all. I think I'll
try with a totally clean system just to be sure.
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2211[16:58:04] <epergny> found the LUKS encryption type,
it's one of the fastest in the benchmark. So it's probably
not that either.
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2215[16:59:09] <killwill> clear
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2216[16:59:12] <epergny> bb36e__: yes, I had that happen to me...
Car without insurance, still needed to fire the engine once every x
months, so I'd just drive a bit in an underground garage. Not
good but better than not starting the engine at all for years.
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2217[16:59:15] <killwill> Whoops
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2220[17:00:40] <jordila> #debian ers ... anyone willing to share
DKIM mail signing experiences for mailing ?
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2223[17:02:46] <jordila> scenario : PHPList for Newsletters +
POSTFIX mail server , i'm wondering ... do i really need
'DKIM' email signing , when using my own Mail Server
rather than SMTP sending ?
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2224[17:02:53] <jordila> What am i missing ?
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i noticed that `ss -wantus` doesn't list udp sockets, while the
statistics output does mention a total of 6 sockets. i can reproduce
it on 2 raspberry pi's. can someone reproduce it on a
'normal' machine? on fedora it does display udp sockets
along with the rest what you would expect
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usage is a single thread completely saturated
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friends
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2304[17:39:34] <Tywin> Out of curiosity, are there people in here
that compile their own kernels?
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2307[17:41:43] <Tywin> Because the toolset is freaking horrible
and I'm wondering whether it's because it's rarely
used and unmaintained or just because the maintainers are downright
idiots X_X
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2309[17:42:30] <greycat> !kernel handbook
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2310[17:42:30] <dpkg> The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook
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getting an avalanche of errors
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2324[17:46:40] <Tywin> Right now make-kpkg is hanging and
splurging out an ambiguous "Failed to create a ./debian
directory: at /usr/bin/make-kpkg line 970." error when
terminating
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2352[17:58:44] <coreilly> Is debian having a dns issue?
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2364[18:02:40] <SlidingHorn> coreilly: Not likely...what's
the issue you're having? Also, version of Debian you're
running?
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2367[18:02:50] <coreilly> bind 9.2
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2369[18:03:06] <coreilly> I was doing lookups and couldn't
get ftp.us.debian.org
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2372[18:03:45] <coreilly> coreilly@bunoc-idns0:~$ dig @localhost
ftp.us.debian.org +short coreilly@bunoc-idns0:~$
coreilly@bunoc-idns0:~$ coreilly@bunoc-idns0:~$ dig @localhost
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2374[18:03:56] <coreilly> Ah the formatting of that is shitty
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2375[18:04:12] <coreilly> but I can lookup
replaced-url
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2377[18:04:33] <greycat> I get three responses for
ftp.us.debian.org
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2378[18:04:43] <jhutchins_wk> Me too.
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2380[18:05:05] <coreilly> If I do +trace it fails on
sec1.rcode0.net
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2382[18:05:18] <coreilly> which is the name server for debian.org
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2383[18:05:21] <rek> join #debian-offtopic
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2385[18:05:36] <coreilly> 8.8.8.8 works but I think that might be
cached.
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2389[18:06:01] <BCMM> coreilly: why are you using +short?
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2390[18:06:06] <rek> hi. i have 390.48 which cuda toolkit can i
install without ruining everything? i'm running debian stretch
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2392[18:06:11] <coreilly> doing dig @8.8.8.8 ftp.us.debian.org
+trace shows wackiness
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2395[18:06:23] <coreilly> I'm doing +short for the sake of
brevity
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2398[18:06:29] <BCMM> coreilly: consider pastebinning the entire
output
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2399[18:06:39] <BCMM> instead of pasting short output in the
channel
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2401[18:07:29] <greycat> I get the same three responses from dig
+short @sec1.rcode0.net ftp.us.debian.org
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2406[18:08:33] <coreilly> here's the pastebin -
replaced-url
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2409[18:08:43] <coreilly> try dig ftp.us.debian.org +trace
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2415[18:09:47] <rek> can i get cuda 9.1 sources somewhere?
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2420[18:12:32] <coreilly> just for the sake of completeness
here's that same lookup but against Google's DNS -
replaced-url
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2422[18:12:50] <coreilly> it also dies on the name servers for
debian.org
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2453[18:25:31] <jhutchins_wk> It completes for me.
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2465[18:31:07] <jelly> sec1.rcode0.net is not "the" NS
for debian.org, there are others, and dig from here gets results ;;
Received 328 bytes from 176.97.158.100#53(sec2.rcode0.net) in 22 ms
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2467[18:31:46] <rek> is there cuda toolkit 9 for debian?
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2468[18:32:35] <jelly> ,v nvidia-cuda-toolkit
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2469[18:32:36] <judd> Package: nvidia-cuda-toolkit on amd64 --
wheezy/non-free: 4.2.9-2; wheezy-backports/non-free:
5.5.22-6~bpo70+2; jessie/non-free: 6.0.37-5;
jessie-backports/non-free: 7.5.18-4~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free:
8.0.44-4; buster/non-free: 9.1.85-4+b1; sid/non-free: 9.1.85-4+b1
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2472[18:32:58] <jelly> rek: only in testing and unstable branches
apparently
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2475[18:33:32] <jelly> ,checkbackport nvidia-cuda-toolkit
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2476[18:33:33] <judd> Backporting package nvidia-cuda-toolkit in
sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
stretch, archignore, stretch-backports.
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2478[18:33:49] <jelly> possibly worth trying to build
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2483[18:34:46] <jelly> rek: if you want to try building the
binary .deb yourself, the bot has a recipe so ask it: /msg dpkg ssb
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2485[18:35:53] <jelly> ,checkbackport nvidia-cuda-dev
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2486[18:35:54] <judd> Backporting package nvidia-cuda-dev in
sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
stretch, archignore, stretch-backports.
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2487[18:36:11] <rek> jelly where are the sources??
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2489[18:36:47] <rek> but i see 8 in stretch i need 9.1 or
something i guess?
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2491[18:37:25] <jelly> rek: the sources are in sid, not in
stretch.
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2493[18:37:51] <rek> of which cuda toolkit version?
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2494[18:38:06] <jelly> see what judd said above, sid/non-free:
9.1.85-4+b1
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2496[18:39:08] <rek> are there cuda toolkit sources from nvidia
too? uhm so do i have to add a line on my apt?
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2498[18:39:11] <jelly> so with that in mind, one possible way
forward is to try building the toolkit itself, for stretch
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2499[18:39:17] <rek> how does it works
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2501[18:39:52] <jelly> ask the dpkg bot, read the recipe for
"backporting"
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2504[18:40:16] <jelly> and try following those instructions
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2505[18:40:27] <jelly> rek: /msg dpkg ssb
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2509[18:41:12] <rek> cuda 9.1 in sid? could be good... but what
would say synaptic when installing it and seeing i have
nvidia-driver installed with the .run.... maybe it's not
compatible lilke now i'm trying to install cuda 8 i have in
stretch repositories and it encourages me to run the uninstall from
nvidia first while attempting to install the toolkit
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2512[18:42:04] <jelly> rek: you do not INSTALL it from sid. You
tke sources from sid, and BUILD packages on your stretch
installation. If that works
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2514[18:42:21] <jelly> you get to install the .deb packages you
successfully built
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2516[18:42:46] <nodiscc> hi, I found something strange about the
fail2ban systemd service
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2518[18:42:54] <jelly> rek: if you used nvidia's own -run
installer shit will be broken anyway
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2519[18:43:11] <jelly> so uninstall that first
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2525[18:44:23] <nodiscc> I had set 'bantime = 604800 #
7days' in one of my fail2ban jails, fail2Ban config does not
accept inline comments, so fail2ban-client reload returned an error:
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2526[18:44:29] <nodiscc> WARNING Wrong value for
'bantime' in 'sshd'. Using default one:
'None'
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2527[18:45:23] <happyfr0gg> If I install ubuntu package repos in
debian, will they install and run without errors?
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2529[18:45:33] <nodiscc> if I run 'systemctl status
fail2ban.service' I see that ExecReload returns an error
(code=exited, status=255)
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2530[18:45:40] <greycat> !don't break debian
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2531[18:45:40] <dpkg> rumour has it, dont break debian is
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2532[18:45:48] <greycat> happyfr0gg:
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2534[18:46:11] <Azrael_-> using backports = breaking?
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2535[18:46:16] <nodiscc> but yet the service itself is marked as
'Active: active (running)', and it returns exit code 0
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2536[18:46:19] <jelly> Azrael_-: no
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2537[18:46:49] <nodiscc> shouldn't 'systemctl --status
fail2ban.service' return a non-zero exit code?
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2538[18:46:49] <greycat> Using the official backports is the
second safest thing you can do, after using only stable.
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2539[18:47:02] <jelly> happyfr0gg: if you need to run ubuntu
packages, use ubuntu
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2540[18:47:13] <nodiscc> It made me think that my config was
correct for a while because I only checked the service status
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2542[18:47:27] <Azrael_-> k
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2543[18:47:31] <rek> great greycat is here the guy from
yesterday.... i succede it bootstraping gcc 5
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2546[18:48:25] <happyfr0gg> I figured since ubuntu is based from
debian the repo packages could be compatible?
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2547[18:48:33] <petn-randall> !based on
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software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't
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2549[18:48:42] <petn-randall> happyfr0gg: There not, not even
close. ^^^
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2550[18:48:46] <petn-randall> *They're
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2551[18:48:53] <rek> greycat i just run a ln -s
/usr/local/gcc-5/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc don't know if that is
enough....though
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2553[18:49:22] <greycat> Try it and see.
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2554[18:49:25] <jelly> rek: don't do that. export
CC=/path/to/your/gcc-5 instead
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2557[18:49:37] <greycat> Well, depends on what he's doing.
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2558[18:49:48] <greycat> I'll defer to jelly on anything
nvidia related.
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2560[18:50:06] <nodiscc> if I run 'systemctl status
fail2ban.service' I see that
'ExecReload=/usr/bin/fail2ban-client reload' returns an
error (code=exited, status=255)
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2561[18:50:15] <nodiscc> sorry bad paste
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2562[18:50:19] <jelly> depending onwhat he's doing,
consequences of changing system gcc symlink will be seen soon or
later
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2563[18:50:31] <jelly> (it's not about nvidia)
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2568[18:51:13] <jelly> nothing wrong with putting it in
/usr/local/bin which is ALSO in default PATH. Why break /usr prefix
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2570[18:51:23] <rek> can i use gcc5 only for building once?
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2571[18:51:49] <thescientist> Hi. Anyone has experience with
google earth pro? I'm having some troubles with it. Thanks.
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2572[18:51:52] <jelly> rek: can you set CC once and unset it
later or just close that shell?
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2573[18:52:12] <jelly> "probably"
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2576[18:54:05] <nodiscc> thescientist: no but it interests me.
what are you using it for and what kind of problem do you have?
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2577[18:54:06] <rek> local/gcc-5/bin/gcc so running ls- ld
doesn't give me the same info it gave me with gcc-6 which is in
tha path i guess... instead of telling me --> gcc-6 or gcc it
tells me the entire path to gcc is this normal? sould i do something
i did all this mess to build some stuff i cannot even build now
because i need cuda 9.1 or something if i want to keep my latest 390
driver which i installed from nvidia .run unfortunately....
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2578[18:54:24] <jelly> rek: but sure, you can overwrite
/usr/bin/gcc, do your thing, and put it back later, it's just a
bad practice, prone to errors
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2581[18:54:56] <rek> not probably we're sure i bootstrapped
that stuff for the whole afternoon and morning
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2582[18:55:16] <rek> jelly, what's a better practice?
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2586[18:55:45] <jelly> to change things in /usr/bin only via
packaging system
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2587[18:56:04] <rek> is this link enough even if gcc5 is not in
the path i mean if i press tab i don't see it instead i see
gcc6
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2589[18:56:24] <jelly> rek: your command is called just
"gcc" not "gcc5"
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2590[18:56:32] <rek> true
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2593[18:56:53] <jelly> rek: so what does
"/usr/local/gcc-5/bin/gcc --version" say?
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2595[18:57:22] <jelly> is it 5 or 6 or what
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2596[18:57:29] <jelly> if it's 5, use it
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2598[18:57:54] <thescientist> nodiscc I am using it to insert
coordinates of collected samples. I usually use the mac version but
i am interested in using the "linux" version since this
computer is much more powerful than the laptop. my problem is that i
install it but when open the software doesn't display properly
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2599[18:58:06] <rek> gcc version 5.5.0 (GCC)
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2600[18:58:45] <rek> but when i'll compile my stuff will i
have to say something about where is gcc? no because i put a symlink
and i should be ok
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2604[18:59:42] <rek> why sid have a more advanced version of cuda
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2609[19:00:31] <jelly> because it was released in the time
between stretch freeze and now.
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2610[19:00:37] <jelly> !freeze
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2611[19:00:37] <dpkg> The 'freeze' is when large
changes to testing version of Debian are stopped for few months.
During this period, no new package uploads are made except to fix
critical bugs or to provide documentation updates. During the
freeze, bugs are squashed to 'stabilize' the release to
make the new 'stable'. Stretch started to freeze in Nov
2016 and entered full freeze on 5 Feb 2017. Also ask me about
<slushy>, <stretch freeze>.
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2618[19:03:09] <thescientist> nodiscc: I am using it to insert
coordinates of collected samples. I usually use the mac version but
i am interested in using the "linux" version since this
computer is much more powerful than the laptop. my problem is that i
install it but when open the software doesn't display properly.
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2619[19:04:22] <jelly> thescientist: which debian release are you
using, and which gpu card is inside?
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2622[19:04:43] <nodiscc> thescientist: is it this one?
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2623[19:06:14] <thescientist> jelly: Debian GNU/Linux testing
(buster) x86_64 (from crunchbangplusplus) and i am using the
integrated graphics of my cpu, Intel HD Graphics
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2624[19:06:26] <thescientist> nodiscc: yes, that one precisely
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2627[19:07:10] <nodiscc> thescientist: does it thrown any
errors/warnings when run from a terminal/console?
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2633[19:09:39] <thescientist> nodiscc: no, none
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2634[19:10:10] <nodiscc> (else have you considered using an
openstreetmap editor to do the job? not my business and maybe you
really require GE. if you only want to export KML/KMZ then one of
these should be fine
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2639[19:11:25] <nodiscc> (saying because it could be hard to find
support for closed source proprietary software here. I'd ask on
GE support channels if there are any)
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2645[19:13:37] <rek> using stretch, archignore,
stretch-backports. i have to add a line in apt?
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2649[19:14:38] <thescientist> nodiscc: this is more a question of
convenience, for presentations, "quick jobs" and checks it
is simpler software to use. for serious stuff I use qgis, the proper
tool for this king of thing
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2651[19:15:57] <thescientist> nodisc: but I understand you
suggestion and the position I am in. Also I have yet to install QGIS
and see how it performs on this machine/OS.
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2654[19:16:04] <rek> ,checkbackport nvidia-driver
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2655[19:16:06] <judd> Backporting package nvidia-driver in
sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using
stretch, stretch-backports.
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2657[19:16:19] <rek> version judd?
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2658[19:16:31] <greycat> It said sid -> stretch.
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2659[19:16:54] <rek> i have version 390
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2661[19:17:03] <nodiscc> I understand yeah qgis is more than
fine, I just checked the google-eart-pro package and it depends on:
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2662[19:17:03] <nodiscc> libasound2, libc6, libcups2,
libdbus-1-3, libfontconfig1, libfreetype6, libgcc1, libglib2.0-0,
libglu1-mesa, libgstreamer1.0-0, libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0,
libproxy1 | libproxy1v5, libsm6, libstdc++6, libx11-6, libx11-xcb1,
libxcb1, libxext6, libxml2, libxrender1, libxtst6
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2666[19:18:17] <nodiscc> but they don't specify versions
and/or if this package is built debian 8, 9, ? so that may be a
missing dependency?
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2669[19:18:48] <rek> 390.48 cool but then i have to backport also
this
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2670[19:19:06] <kot> just curious, has anyone heard of any
gotchas using the 4.16 kernel in stretch?
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2673[19:19:28] <greycat> A few people on debian-user said they
had issues that were fixed by reverting to a 4.15.x.
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2674[19:19:30] <nodiscc> anyway I know very little about gis, I
use to add very basic placemarks in marble (replaced-url
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2675[19:20:20] <kot> hm, interesting. thanks greycat.
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2680[19:21:58] <thescientist> nodiscc: I am very new to this, so
I have to go slowly. I always try to check when installing if any
error message appears, if many dependencies are necessary, etc. I
will check those dependencies with the terminal or synaptic and see
if any need to be reinstalled or are missing somehow.
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2681[19:22:05] <rek> i'll add deb
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2684[19:23:54] <thescientist> nodiscc:This was more of a
convenience "problem". For this job, which is supposed to
be quick I can still rely on the mac version, and since it is a
laptop it is always ready. I will investigate further and see what I
can find, maybe it will be useful to more people in the future.
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2686[19:25:06] <nodiscc> thescientist: I am installing it on a
debian 9 stable box to see if it works
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2690[19:26:51] <rek> 'm not sure which lines to add guys
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2691[19:27:52] <thescientist> nodiscc: Thank you, you are being
very helpful.
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2694[19:28:53] <beastwick> is it possible to install kfreebsd on
an existing debian install?
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2696[19:28:54] <nodiscc> thescientist: it works ok for me
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2700[19:30:22] <thescientist> nodiscc: mine is like this
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2703[19:30:50] <rek> ,checkbackports nvidia-cuda-toolkit
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2705[19:31:54] <thescientist> nodiscc: so, this means something
went "wrong" from debian stable to unstable that i am
using
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2706[19:32:25] <rek> no toolkit judd?
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2712[19:36:01] <nodiscc> thescientist: their package is probably
for debian stable yeah. no way to be really sure.
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2719[19:38:23] <depesz> hi. i have a problem on intel nuc (small
barebone computer) that after booting it stops displaying anything.
x doesn't start, and i see boot messages up to some point, and
then the screen goes dark
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2722[19:38:40] <depesz> i assume/guess that something sets some
"wrong" graphics mode
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2723[19:38:47] <depesz> but how can I check what, and disable it?
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2724[19:38:50] <nodiscc> depesz: does it boot in recovery mode?
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2725[19:38:54] <depesz> i have access to this box via ssh
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2726[19:38:57] <nodiscc> (from the grub menu)
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2727[19:39:04] <depesz> moment. let me try.
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2729[19:39:37] <depesz> same thing happens
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2731[19:39:43] <depesz> it boots happily, and then stops
displaying anything.
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2732[19:39:57] <depesz> i can shoot a video that shows the
effect, but I'm not sure how helpful it would be.
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2733[19:40:12] <SlidingHorn> depesz: does it typically have a
graphical login or tty?
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2734[19:40:15] <depesz> in recovery mode ssh is down, so now I
can't connect there.
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2737[19:40:30] <depesz> SlidingHorn: it doesn't have either
because it doesn't display anything.
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2740[19:40:41] <depesz> i started with purely text console in
debian stable.
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2741[19:40:50] <depesz> any kind of insallation of x makes it
stop displaying anything.
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2742[19:40:55] <depesz> even when X hasn't even started.
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2743[19:40:57] <nodiscc> ok I'd try to set nomodeset in boot
options
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2744[19:41:02] <depesz> i stopped all x related things, and
display is still gone.
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2745[19:41:37] <nodiscc> in /etc/default/grub at
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
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2746[19:41:51] <depesz> well, i edited grub command line.
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2747[19:41:51] <nodiscc> then 'update-grub' and reboot
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2748[19:41:55] <nodiscc> k
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2749[19:42:00] <depesz> ok. with nomodeset it boots to working
text mode.
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2750[19:42:04] <depesz> but how can I now start X?
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2751[19:42:15] <depesz> my endgame is to have working X
environment.
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2753[19:42:21] <greycat> Try 'startx' and see what
happens.
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2754[19:42:26] <depesz> on it.
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2755[19:42:31] <nodiscc> depesz: either that or install a DM like
lightdm
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2756[19:43:02] <greycat> I would hold off on installing the DM
until startx works.
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2757[19:43:04] <depesz> nothing. startx + enter - nothing has
changed. i still see terminal with the command typed in, no
messages, nohing has changed
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2759[19:43:20] <depesz> i think i read somewhere that nomodeset
means that x won't start.
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2761[19:43:36] <nodiscc> ps aux | grep Xorg
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2763[19:43:43] <greycat> nomodeset turns off Kernel Mode Setting,
which is one of the ways X can operate
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2766[19:43:45] <depesz> root 780 1.0 0.0 0 0 tty1 Z 19:43 0:00
[Xorg] <defunct>
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2767[19:43:48] <depesz> ^^ nodiscc
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2768[19:44:46] <depesz>
replaced-url
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2769[19:44:50] <depesz> this is xorg.0.log
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2770[19:45:16] <depesz> wow. after some (long time) there is
output in the console - basically - "no screens found"
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2771[19:45:22] <depesz> can provide photo if it would help.
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2772[19:45:38] <jhutchins_wk> depesz: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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2773[19:45:45] <depesz> jhutchins_wk: yes?
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2774[19:45:52] <jhutchins_wk> depesz: Very noisy, but it will
tell you what's happening.
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2775[19:46:02] <greycat> or ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log
depending
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2777[19:46:08] <nodiscc> depesz: apt-cache policy
xserver-xorg-video-all
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2778[19:46:10] <depesz> but i just showed you?
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2782[19:46:48] <depesz> nodiscc:
replaced-url
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2783[19:47:08] <nodiscc> depesz: apt install
xerver-xorg-video-all
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2784[19:47:13] <depesz> jhutchins_wk: / greycat : i pasted the
whole file 3 minutes ago: 194446 depesz |
replaced-url
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2785[19:47:22] <nodiscc> reboot
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2787[19:47:51] <greycat> urrent Operating System: Linux bednuc
4.16.0-1-amd64
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2789[19:48:32] <depesz> nodiscc: installed. did startx. i think
it helped. i got kde screen. checking if it does have libva support
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2794[19:48:57] <nodiscc> depesz: your xorg.0.log was reporting
(EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" and other modules
multiple times
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2797[19:49:21] <depesz> nodiscc: ok. how can I make it use intel
driver?
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2799[19:49:38] <depesz> I need this box to have
hardware-video-decode support. which supposedly should work.
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2801[19:50:29] <nodiscc> depesz: does it work without nomodeset
now?
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2804[19:51:04] <depesz> moment, doing reboot with nomodeset
actually in /etc/default/grub
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2805[19:51:15] <depesz> ok. reboot: got console.
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2806[19:51:18] <nodiscc> nope, I meant, without it
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2807[19:51:19] <depesz> logging in and starting x
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2809[19:51:30] <depesz> without nomodeset - no. it doesn't
same problem.
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2810[19:51:34] <nodiscc> ok
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2811[19:51:54] <depesz> as in: black screen.
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2812[19:51:56] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: What's your chipset?
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2813[19:52:05] <depesz> the thing is that this black screen
happens without any x thing starting.
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2814[19:52:13] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: how can I check?
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2815[19:52:22] <greycat> lspci -nn
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2816[19:52:41] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: x probbably is starting,
just not successfully. Your earlier message showed that it tried to
start and failed.
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2817[19:52:51] <depesz>
replaced-url
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2818[19:52:54] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: no, it's not.
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2820[19:53:08] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: Have you tried Ctrl-Alt-F1
to switch out of the dead screen?
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2821[19:53:09] <depesz> if i run with nomodeset, i get normal
console and I can start x by doing startx from logged account
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2822[19:53:13] <depesz> i disabled sddm
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2823[19:53:15] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: yes.
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2824[19:53:41] <depesz> i am 100% sure that without nodemoset
comp starts, witout anything in x (i checked ps auxw output) and
there is no visual
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2825[19:53:48] <depesz> so, something in the console does
something wrong
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2826[19:54:10] <depesz> if you want, i can reboot one more time,
without "nomodeset", ssh to the box, and get ps output and
show you
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2827[19:54:31] <jhutchin1_wk> ,pciid 8086:3185
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2828[19:54:33] <judd> [8086:3185] is 'Unknown device'
from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules
'snd-hda-intel', 'ata-generic' in stretch. See
also
replaced-url
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2831[19:55:59] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk:
replaced-url
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2832[19:56:15] <depesz> this is ps output right after reboot,
without nomodeset, with no video coming over hdmi.
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2834[19:57:08] <depesz> judd : that's for me?
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2835[19:57:11] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: If X fails to start
it's not going to be running.
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2836[19:57:24] <thescientist> nodiscc: just checked those
dependencies, only one missing is libproxy1 but i have the
libproxy1v5
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2837[19:57:30] <greycat> It's for anyone trying to figure
out what your video chipset is and whether it's supported or
not.
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2840[19:57:34] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: but it didn't even try
to start after boot
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2841[19:57:45] <depesz> i disabled sddm
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2845[19:58:00] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: That's what that black
screen is.
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2846[19:58:01] <nodiscc> thescientist: how did you install the
google-earth-pro package?
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2847[19:58:08] <depesz> i see that /var/log/Xorg.0.log is older
than current boot
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2848[19:58:26] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: as i said: i have no idea,
but there is clearly something doing it that doesn't seem to be
x-related.
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2850[19:58:46] <depesz> in any way - how can I make X use intel
driver for graphics?
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2851[19:59:28] <depesz> i guess what breaks my video normally is
the same thing that changes font look on the console
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2853[19:59:35] <nodiscc> thescientist: if you installed it with
'dpkg -i google-earth-pro.deb', you need to run 'dpkg
--configure -a' afterwards
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2854[20:00:07] <rek> it seems like it didn't change much
since i added stretch backports
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2855[20:00:58] <nodiscc> depesz: yeah kernel modesetting is what
makes the console font look good, and I don't think it's
possible to have hardware video decoding without modesetting
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2860[20:01:27] <jhutchin1_wk> rek: You should read the
documentation on the backports page. Just adding the repo does not
make changes in your system.
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2861[20:01:52] <rek> i did apt-get update
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2863[20:02:07] <depesz> nodiscc: how can I make console *not* do
the thing with modesetting?
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2864[20:02:12] <depesz> or, force it to modeset to specific mode?
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2866[20:02:23] <petn-randall> rek: It seems like you didn't
read the documentation yet.
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2867[20:02:28] <depesz> as i suspect it simply changes to wrong
mode - one that my tv doesn't support.
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2868[20:02:37] <nodiscc> rek: by default backports package have
lower priority, you have to pin them to a higher priority or
specifically install a package with -t backports
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2869[20:02:42] <greycat> depesz: put "nomodeset" back
in, and see if it works that way, and *THEN* start worrying about
performance and crap
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2870[20:03:06] <depesz> greycat: with "nomodeset" it
works - i get working console, and can get X using startx
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2871[20:03:09] <depesz> so i'm kinda past that.
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2872[20:03:18] <rek>
replaced-url
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2873[20:03:25] <depesz> but I need hw-video-decoding, as the box
is supposed to be media player
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2874[20:03:35] <nodiscc> depesz: I don't know, check what
video card it is and if it's supported
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2875[20:03:40] <greycat> And you tested hw-video-decoding and it
failed...?
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2877[20:03:56] <depesz> greycat: i showed vainfo some time ago
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2878[20:04:01] <greycat> nodiscc: nobody knows whether it's
supported, judd doesn't have anything, kmuto doesn't have
anything
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2879[20:04:10] <depesz> it's built-in intel hd graphics
thing.
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2880[20:04:14] <rek> nodiscc, i did the -t trick... i don't
know if the packages listed in the terminal are the version i want
uhm...i'm not sure but i'm there...
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2883[20:04:43] <nodiscc> rek wait you need to be sure of what you
are doing. I don't know your exact problem
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2885[20:05:14] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: You have a chipset
that's not supported by current modules. You can try searchinf
x.org for the pciid and see if there's a driver in the works
upstream. It's vaguely possible that testing might be new
enough to support it.
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2886[20:05:26] <rek> launched apt-get -t stretch-backports
install nvidia-cuda-toolkit
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2887[20:05:33] <greycat> depesz: have you also checked for
missing firmware errors from Linux?
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2889[20:06:16] <depesz> jhutchin1_wk: i'm on sid
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2890[20:06:27] <jhutchin1_wk> depesz: Oh well.
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2891[20:06:27] <depesz> greycat: where can I check it?
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2892[20:06:42] <nodiscc> ,versions nvidia-cuda-toolkit
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2893[20:06:43] <judd> Package: nvidia-cuda-toolkit on amd64 --
wheezy/non-free: 4.2.9-2; wheezy-backports/non-free:
5.5.22-6~bpo70+2; jessie/non-free: 6.0.37-5;
jessie-backports/non-free: 7.5.18-4~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free:
8.0.44-4; buster/non-free: 9.1.85-4+b1; sid/non-free: 9.1.85-4+b1
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2894[20:06:52] <greycat> depesz: dmesg | grep -i firmware
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2895[20:07:17] <rek> this command is reinstalling the old
packages in my opinion!!!
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2896[20:07:17] <nodiscc> rek: you are on stretch?
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2897[20:07:21] <rek> i am
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2898[20:07:29] <depesz> greycat:
replaced-url
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2901[20:08:19] <annadane> pasting on riseup, that's a first
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2902[20:08:21] <greycat> depesz: well, start by fixing those
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2903[20:08:24] <nodiscc> rek: apt-cache policy nvidia-toolkit
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2905[20:08:40] <nodiscc> (broken video card day)
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2906[20:08:43] <greycat> at least the ones that look relevant to
video, i.e. you can probably skip the iwlwifi for now
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2909[20:09:26] <depesz> greycat: which one looks related to
video? i see only bluetooth and wifi ?
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2910[20:09:44] <greycat> oh, is that what ibt is? I have no idea.
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2912[20:10:06] <depesz> bluetooth hci0: firmware: failed to load
intel/ibt-17-16-1.sfi (-2)
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2913[20:10:09] <depesz> it sais bluetooth
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2914[20:10:11] <nodiscc> depesz: you're right, apparently
only missing firmware for wifi, bt and nic
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2915[20:10:27] <depesz> it would be cool to get bt there, but
I'm more interested in proper video
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2916[20:10:41] <rek>
replaced-url
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2917[20:10:43] <greycat> Did stretch work?
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2918[20:10:44] <depesz> so, is there any way i can force kms to
some specific mode?
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2919[20:10:56] <depesz> greycat: for me? no. same problems.
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2920[20:11:04] <rek> nodiscc, up
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2922[20:11:24] <depesz> i also tested other distributions, and
everywhere same problem - blank screen while booting
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2924[20:12:01] <greycat> Maybe your video chipset just isn't
supported yet, or there's a hardware failure with this
individual machine.
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2926[20:12:32] <nodiscc> rek: you have nvidia-cuda-toolkit
8.0.44-4 installed, what version do you want?
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2929[20:12:58] <rek> nodiscc, i want to have my nvidia 390 driver
and a compatible cuda toolkit like 9.1 i believe....
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2931[20:13:14] <rek> the one judd the mr bot said was good
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2932[20:13:16] <nodiscc> depesz: I bet on your chipset not being
supported yet. I'd try to install firmware-linux-free
firmware-linux-nonfree but seems like you're out of luxk
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2936[20:13:54] <depesz> trying ...
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2937[20:14:06] <SlidingHorn> rek: that version isn't
available in stretch (unless you want to build it yourself, which
wouldn't be supported and could break dependencies elsewhere)
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2938[20:14:06] <nodiscc> rek: what's your current nvidia
driver version, package name, and where did you get it from?
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2939[20:14:11] <Namll> if a network I am trying to connect to
with EAP, would i just download the certficates from somewhere and
place them in /etc/cert?
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2940[20:14:20] <nodiscc> rek: what SlidingHorn said
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2943[20:14:42] <rek> 375.82 from repo
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2944[20:14:55] <nodiscc> rek: for recent video drivers I'd
make sure I am at least using the latest debian stable release
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2945[20:14:58] <nodiscc> upgrade to jessie
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2946[20:15:06] <greycat> um what
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2949[20:15:41] <rek> and just launched -t stretch-backports
install nvidia-cuda-toolkit and i got that.... i had the
390.something from the website but here they told i can use
stretch-backports to get cuda 9 and nvidia 390
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2950[20:15:41] <nodiscc> then to stretch
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2951[20:15:49] <depesz> nodiscc: installed. no change :(
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2953[20:15:59] <rek> i'm in stretch
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2956[20:16:13] <rek> what judd said it was ok
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2958[20:16:22] <annadane> is there a tentative date yet for 9.5?
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2961[20:16:32] <rek> ,checkbackports nvidia-driver
nvidia-cuda-dev
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2963[20:16:40] <rek> but not toolkit though
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2964[20:16:53] <rek> ,checkbackports nvidia-driver
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2965[20:16:56] <jelly> rek: I don't think anyone said you
could get cuda toolkit 9 installed from stretch-backports
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2966[20:17:00] <greycat> stretch is the current stable release;
jessie was the one before
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2969[20:17:06] <nodiscc> depesz: yeah well I'm waiting for
the next stable too :) no luck
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2970[20:17:12] <rek> ,checkbackports nvidia-cuda-dev
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2971[20:17:18] <rek> look jelly
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2972[20:17:21] <jelly> rek: I said you could try to backport it
yourself
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2973[20:17:28] <thescientist> nodiscc: i didnt know that but i
just run that command and it made no difference (that i see)
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2974[20:17:40] <petn-randall> annadane: When it's
Ready™. Those will only be updated installers, anyway. If you
have stretch-updates in your repo list (you should) it will be the
same than installing from the new point release.
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2976[20:17:46] <rek> oh shi* souhm what can i do_?
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2978[20:17:51] <annadane> yeah, i get it, just a general question
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2979[20:17:53] <jelly> rek: and I pointed to instructions to do
that, /msg dpkg simple sid backport
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2980[20:18:08] <annadane> just that i thought they had announced
9.5 a while ago, i wasn't sure how reliable my memory was
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2981[20:18:25] <jelly> rek: type this in your irc client: /msg
dpkg ssb
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2982[20:18:35] <jelly> rek: you should get a private message from
"dpkg" bot in return
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2984[20:18:46] <rek> is judd tired?
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2985[20:18:48] <jelly> (in a different tab or window)
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2987[20:18:51] <rek> i messaged him
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3005[20:19:21] <rek> ssb doesn't work too
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3006[20:19:23] <jelly> rek: judd's "checkbackport"
tests if it's possible to try making your own local backport at
all
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3011[20:19:28] <rek> ah ok
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3024[20:20:24] <jelly> judd's "version" tells if
there's a ready-made backport (more precisely, it shows all the
available versions for a package in all the current debian branches)
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3026[20:20:31] <jelly> !ssb
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3027[20:20:31] <dpkg> First, check for a backport on
<debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for
sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable
debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude
install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b
source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change
compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions
newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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3031[20:20:47] <jelly> rek: you didn't get that in a PM
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3032[20:20:48] <jelly> ?
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3034[20:20:52] <rek> yeah
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3035[20:20:55] <rek> sounds hard
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3036[20:20:56] <nodiscc> thescientist: then I don't know. If
you're just working with KML/KMZ it should be possible to
import/export to/from googleearth/marble as I said. Or you could try
on a debian stable box
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3042[20:22:10] <jelly> if it's too hard I bet someone in
here would be willing to do it instead of you, for a price
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3047[20:25:24] <nodiscc> interesting how much would you charge
for backporting a package
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3048[20:26:09] <thescientist> nodiscc: thanks. I will try the
stable option. Once again thank you.
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3049[20:26:23] <nodiscc> thescientist: np good luck
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3050[20:26:52] <jelly> nodiscc: LTS people do their thing at
around 85eur/hr
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3051[20:27:15] <jelly> me, I'm more expensive personally
:->
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3053[20:27:47] <tw> yeah, subcontracted technology or engineering
work for less than 120 usd/hr equivalent is a bargain.
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3054[20:27:51] <nodiscc> okay :) good to know
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3055[20:28:31] <rek> ERROR: No supported gcc/g++ host compiler
found, but clang-3.8 is available i installed gcc5 built it manually
bootstrapped and put a link with ln now what can i do?
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3056[20:28:44] <rek> gcc5 is what is needed
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3058[20:29:03] <jelly> !ask
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3059[20:29:03] <dpkg> If you have a question, just ask! For
example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian
version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I
expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if
anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all
volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get
an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org.
See <smart questions><errors>.
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3061[20:29:19] <jelly> rek: ^
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3062[20:29:37] <jelly> if actual output is longer than 2-3 lines,
do it in a pastebin
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3063[20:29:39] <jelly> !paste
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3064[20:29:39] <dpkg> Do not paste more than 2 lines to this
channel. Instead, use:
replaced-url
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3065[20:29:52] <nodiscc> so why does fail2ban.service report as
running when in fact fail2ban-client reload has failed?
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3066[20:29:52] <rek> slowdown i already know hehe
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3067[20:30:00] <dragon_> hey
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3068[20:30:13] <rek> should i add the built gcc5 in the path?
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3069[20:30:15] <dragon_> hiiiii
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3070[20:30:17] <dragon_> seeeeeex
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3073[20:30:44] <dragon_>
seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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3074[20:30:44] <jelly> dragon_: wrong channel for chat. Try
##chat maybe and try to use complete sentences!
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3075[20:30:45] <annadane> no, just debian, sadly
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3076[20:30:59] <dragon_>
ssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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3081[20:31:40] <jelly> that's a bad dragon
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3096[20:39:56] <jhutchin1_wk> nodiscc: Because it's created
a pid file but has failed without removing it.
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3101[20:41:59] <rek> hey guys g++ -v tells me it's gcc6 then
i must link it alsto to my gcc installation...
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3105[20:43:16] <nodiscc> jhutchin1_wk: thank you I'll look
into that. I think it should return non-zero when there are errors.
fail2ban bug or debian systemd service file bug
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3107[20:44:03] <jhutchins_wk> nodiscc: I would file it with
Debian, let the devs push it upstream if needed.
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3111[20:45:49] <nodiscc> will do
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3117[20:50:10] <depesz> got another datapoint - if I turn off tv,
and then turn it back on - I get screen back. and even hardware
support for video.
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3121[20:50:18] <depesz> any idea why i need to power cycle
monitor *after* reboot?
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3123[20:50:28] <depesz> and also i have to re-start sddm
afterwards
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3126[20:51:36] <annadane> sorry, this was kind of answered before
but what has to happen for intel-microcode to be in stable as
opposed to backports?
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3127[20:52:16] <greycat> For most packages I would have said
"probably a point-release", but with non-free I don't
know.
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3132[20:55:22] <annadane> i think it's just testing to make
sure it's robust enough
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3133[20:55:39] <annadane> still, bit of a tradeoff, leaves people
vulnerable if they're not aware of backports
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3134[20:55:51] <annadane> (though spectre is harder to exploit)
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3136[20:55:57] <annadane> (than meltdown)
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3137[20:56:02] <greycat> Pssht, like the newer one is going to
make anyone *not* vulnerable.
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3140[20:57:26] <depesz> alternatively - how can I make sddm try
forever to restart, and not give up when it has problems?
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3141[20:57:44] <depesz> it is probably some kind of systemd
configuration
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3145[21:02:22] <depesz> currently, after reboot, i have:
replaced-url
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3151[21:02:40] <jelly> depesz: that would make it hard to be able
to log in at the console, but I suspect you can easily change the
unit to Restart
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3154[21:03:07] <depesz> jelly: i don't quite understand what
you mean
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3155[21:03:21] <annadane> greycat, maybe, it kind of depends on
how easy you consider patches to be vs how hard they are to exploit
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3156[21:03:32] <GNU\colossus> depesz, you can have systemd
restart a service unit if it exits under certain (i. e. error)
conditions
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3157[21:03:36] <annadane> in the case of spectre
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3158[21:03:52] <depesz> GNU\colossus: how can I do it/check how
it is set now
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3159[21:03:54] <depesz> ?
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3162[21:04:42] <GNU\colossus> to set that up, you can run
`systemctl edit sddm.service`, and add "Restart=always" to
the "[Service]" section
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3163[21:04:53] <GNU\colossus> you maybe also want something like
"RestartSec=10s"
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3164[21:05:00] <GNU\colossus> to not make it attempt restarts
every 100msec
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3166[21:05:03] <jelly> depesz: if sddm is restarting all the time
and switching over to virtual console 7 every couple seconds,
it's hard to log in at virtual console 1
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3167[21:05:09] <depesz> how can I view current service settings?
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3169[21:05:18] <depesz> jelly: i can log via ssh
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3170[21:05:23] <GNU\colossus> `systemctl show
<servicename>` shows the properties of a running service unit
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3172[21:06:04] <depesz> ok. it shows: Restart=always and
RestartUSec=1s
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3173[21:06:10] <depesz> but it doesn't restart
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3174[21:06:48] <GNU\colossus> depesz, can you paste the
service's journal? `journalctl -n 50 -u sddm.service`
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3176[21:07:11] <depesz> -- No entries --
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3177[21:07:29] <depesz> i guess it's a follow up with the
problem with intel graphics in this box
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3179[21:07:37] <GNU\colossus> hrm. something's clearly amiss
then.
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3182[21:07:54] <GNU\colossus> can you nopaste `systemctl cat
sddm.service`?
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3186[21:08:19] <depesz> moment. rebooting
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3190[21:09:58] <depesz> it looks that graphics stop working
because of some mode that console is setting, and this stops sddm
from running. re-starting monitor fixes the problem, but then I have
to start sddm manually :(
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3191[21:10:19] <GNU\colossus> the journal for your unit is still
empty?
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3199[21:11:09] <depesz> May 10 21:08:28 bednuc systemd[1]:
Started Simple Desktop Display Manager.
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3200[21:11:14] <GNU\colossus> and do you have a service named
"getty@tty7.service" active?
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3201[21:11:17] <depesz> but this was before last reboot, if i see
it correctly
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3208[21:11:48] <GNU\colossus> I'm not sure off the top of my
head about the Conflicts property, but these seem like contradicting
each other
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3209[21:11:50] <depesz> getty@tty7.service loaded inactive dead
Getty on tty7
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3210[21:11:56] <GNU\colossus> hm ok
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3211[21:12:10] <GNU\colossus> what happens when you manually try
to start the sddm service?
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3212[21:12:14] <depesz> actually - now it started. looks like it
needed 2-3 minutes to start.
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3213[21:12:19] <depesz> GNU\colossus: when i start manually it
just works.
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3214[21:12:28] <depesz> as i mentioned - it seems to be related
to the intel kms issue.
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3215[21:12:36] <GNU\colossus> then it's probably the tty7
After stanzas?
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3243[21:29:51] <btel> Hi Guys, I'm jumping from CentOS board
to Debian, and have been googling on firewalld vs iptables, looks
like iptables is primarily used on Debian , can anyone shed some
light ? I'm used to of firewalld on CentOS7 and would prefer to
use it on Debian also
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3249[21:31:51] <tw> btel: install it. package is named exactly
that.
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3254[21:33:44] <btel> Thanks tw, But it seems default
installation has iptables on debian , do I need to uninstall it
first? If any cheat sheet pls point to me.
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3255[21:33:44] <cmm11> btel: iirc firewalld is a front-end for
iptables
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3258[21:34:04] <greycat> iptables is not *used* (configured) by
default, so having it installed is irrelevant
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3264[21:37:08] <btel> So lets say I remove iptables (apt-get
remove iptables), then install firewalld ...If firewalld is front
end of iptables then it should re-install iptables as being
dependency ?
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3265[21:37:17] <greycat> ,depends firewalld
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3266[21:37:18] <judd> Package firewalld in stretch/amd64 --
depends: dbus, gir1.2-glib-2.0, iptables, policykit-1, python3-dbus,
python3-gi, python3-slip-dbus, init-system-helpers (>= 1.18~),
python3:any (>= 3.3.2-2~).
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3267[21:37:32] <greycat> installing firewalld will reinstall
iptables for you, since that's a dependency
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3268[21:37:43] <greycat> you could save some time by NOT removing
iptables first
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3273[21:39:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> /msg alis LIST offtopic
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3274[21:39:10] <btel> got it ..thanks a lot guys!
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3275[21:39:17] <babilen> btel: iptables/netfilter is the
underlying mechanism that allows you to filter packages, there are
many tools that do nothing else but configure them to your liking
via a different interface
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3277[21:40:11] <btel> yup..right.
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3279[21:40:21] <kot> packets*
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3280[21:41:09] <babilen> heh, yeah
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3281[21:41:16] <babilen> s/packages/packets
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3283[21:41:20] <babilen> *sigh*
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3284[21:41:23] <kot> ufw is particularly easy
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3286[21:41:44] <babilen> ferm is worth a look too
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3288[21:41:46] <kot> or gufw if you want a gui front end
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3291[21:43:27] <tijeretas__> Does iptables take up 3GB, or is
there another issue with just leaving it there unconfigured? :)
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3292[21:44:01] <at0m> iptables "Installed-Size: 1,580
kB"
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3293[21:44:02] <greycat> stretch also has nftables, but I've
never used it
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3294[21:45:15] <kot> i guess we'll all have to learn
nftables sooner or later though.
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3295[21:45:56] <babilen> bpf :)
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3304[21:47:25] <tw> I hesitant about running a bytecode
interpreter as a packet filter, but it seems to work well enough.
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3305[21:47:28] <tw> *I'm
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3306[21:48:04] <babilen>
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3308[21:48:22] <babilen> Either way .. I don't think that
uninstalling iptables is warrented in this particular case
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3309[21:48:25] <greycat> "to stop everyone from switching to
OpenBSD and pf"?
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3310[21:48:30] <babilen> heh
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3321[21:52:36] <tw> Oh, so instead of bytecode interpreting as in
nftables, bpf is executing machine code instead.
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3322[21:52:49] <tw> which is dynamically loaded and unloaded from
userspace.
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3323[21:53:03] <kot> bpf + ngrep ftw
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3324[21:53:05] <tw> Same problem, except worse.
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3373[22:14:06] <hanetzer> hey. having a bit of issue locating the
berkely db package on packages.debian.org; its called sys-libs/db in
gentoo, does anyone have a more precise name for it?
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3375[22:14:48] <greycat> libdb-dev is one of them
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3376[22:14:54] <greycat> ,info libdb-dev
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3377[22:14:55] <judd> Package libdb-dev (libdevel, extra) in
stretch/amd64: Berkeley Database Libraries [development]. Version:
5.3.1; Size: 2.3k; Installed: 8k
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3379[22:15:45] <hanetzer> are any of the 6.x versions packaged?
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